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EXCLUSIVE Transcripts of Whistleblower Testimonies as

Targeted Individuals of U.S. Sponsored Mind Control and
Related Hearings and Lectures
Published by Advanced Media Group June 2, 2016
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August 19, 2016
TABLE OF CONTENTS
1. Background of Stan J. Caterbone as a Targeted Individual
2. Allstate Sworn Testimony of Stan J. Caterbone TRANSCRIPT Volume 2
and Volume 1 July 12, 2016
3. Transcript of the Richmond City Council Public Hearing of May 19,
2015 Passing a City Resolution 5-2 to Ban Spaced-Based Weapons
in Support of the Many Targeted Individuals Suffering Symptoms of the City.
4. Karen Stewart, NSA Whistleblower and Targeted Individual
5. There is no doubt that NSA is now run by sycophants and sociopaths
6. EXCLUSIVE: Former NSA Employee Speaks Out on its Corruption - Karen
Stewart
7. The Interview
8. NSA Whistleblower Comes Out of the Shadows Into the Light by Karen
Stewart
9. The Interview
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Julianne McKinney, US Army Intelligence Officer, Whistleblower,
and Targeted Individual
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Transcript Of Greg Szymanskis Interview With Julianne Mckinney
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Dr. Nick Begich, Author and Expert Researcher of U.S.
Sponsored Mind Control
13.
October 1, 2015 Nick Begich Lecture at the Covert Harassment
Conference in Berlin, Germany
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BACKGROUND
Stan J. Caterbone's International Signal & Control or ISC Whistleblowing History and Mind
Control Relationships are outlined in the following statements and declarations, which have already
been proven and verified and have never been specifically contested in any court of law:
Stan J. Caterbone was a Federal Whistleblower in 1987 regarding ISC
The 29 False Arrests and Prosecutorial Misconduct that Stan J. Caterbone was subject to in 1987
through 2015 was an effort to cover-up the allegations made by Stan J. Caterbone in the Spring and
Summer of 1987 after the Meeting of June 23, 1987 with ISC and United Chem Con Executive Larry
Resch.
The ISC Fraud and Sales of Arms to Iraq Story by the ABC News Nightline with Ted Koppel and the
Financial Times of London in May, July, and September of 1991 was most likely initiated or was
corroborated by Lancaster Newspapers reporter Thomas Flannary.
Thomas Flannary's mysterious death in February of 2004 was either murder or was a cover story to
hide the fact that he was a CIA operative used to control the flow of information, disinformation, and
propaganda. It is highly subject that he began his career with Lancaster Newspapers in 1987 and is not
a native Lancastrian.
The ISC merger was not completed until December of 1987, 3 months after the False Arrests of Stan
J. Caterbone.
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Sunday, June 5, 2016
The official meeting with the Pennsylvania Securities Commission Agent Howard Eisler in September of
1987, which was solicited by Agent Eisler was an effort to illegally interrogate Stan J. Caterbone without
a legal subpoena.
In the months after the June 23, 1987 meeting with ISC Executive Larry Resch Stan J. Caterbone had
personally solicited a vast array of local, state, and federal officials, including the FBI and Congressman
Robert Walker, PA State Representative Gibson Armstrong for assistance in the retaliation and slander
campaign that was in progress. There is credible linkage between the ISC Scandal, U.S. Sponsored
Mind Control, Stan J. Caterbone's family VICTIMIZATION of the same, and the participation of
LANCASTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA.
The Zook Murder Appeal proves that Lancaster County Detective Michael Landis, Judge James Cullen,
and Judge Farina of the Lancaster County Court of Common Pleas were all involved in U.S. Sponsored
Mind Control before 2004 and before Stan J. Caterbone went public with his VICTIMIZATION of U.S.
Sponsored Mind Control.
Bobby Ray Inman, former director of the National Security Agency (NSA) was on the Board of
Directors of ISC and was involved in U.S. Sponsored Mind Control Technologies through his company
S.A.I.C. Corporation. Bobby Ray Inman would later be selected by Former President Bill Clinton for his
Director of Defense, but would later remove himself due to allegations and public scrutiny for his role in
the ISC scandal.
In the Fall of 1991 Robert Gates was nominated for Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
and during his televised confirmation hearings the was subject to brutal array of questions concerning
his participation in the ISC scandal. He went on to be nominated and later would serve both the Bush
Administrations and the Obama Administrations as Secretary of Defense until resigning in 2011.
There have been at least 3 documented attempts on the life of Stan J. Caterbone; 1987, 1991, and
2004, all attempts at vehicular homicide. Thomas P. Caterbone's passing in 1996 was the result of a
wrongful death claim by Fulton Bank. Samuel A. Caterbone was most likely an KULTRA murder tactic in
Santa Barbara, California on December 25, 1984. Samuel P. Caterbone was most likely the result of an
MKULTRA murder tactic on July 20,2001 in New York city.
The above finding of facts and evidence corroborates a vast conspiracy and criminal enterprise that
violates both civil and criminal RICO statutes and antitrust statutes.
The above would constitute treble damages for Stan J. Caterbone and Advanced Media Group in U.S.
District Courts, specifically in the Eastern District for Pennsylvania Case No. 05-2288, 06-4650, 1402559, and other related cases; and Case No. 08-13373 in the Lancaster County Court of Common
Pleas.
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Stan J. Caterbone Testimony
EXAMINATION UNDER OATH OF

STANLEY J. CATERBONE
(VOLUME II)
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TAKEN BY:
ALLSTATE INSURANCE COMPANY
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PLACE:
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STANLEY J. CATERBONE, called as a witness, being

duly sworn, testified as follows:
EXAMINATION
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THE WITNESS:
I wanted to try to give you some
background about why people are doing this to me.
MR. REESER:
THE WITNESS:
Okay.
Here's one of the first things.
This is a book written by the Chief of Police ex-wife.
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Chief of Police of Lancaster?
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Lancaster, yes.
She accused him of domestic
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abuse, and I've had the book for over a year.
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other thing is this book here.
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right now to get her out of prison.
And the
I have the only live case
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And why don't you read the title of the book.
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Love, Murder and Corruption in Lancaster County,
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My Story by Lisa Michelle Lambert and David Brown.
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communicate with Dave Brown a couple times a week.
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Who is David Brown?
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Her attorney that wrote the book.
Now if you're
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not familiar with this case, there were three teenagers
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that were involved in a murder back in 1992.
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federal judge named Stewart Dalzell released her saying
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there was so much prosecutorial misconduct in the case that
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she was actually innocent.
In 1997, a
Now Pennsylvania appealed it,
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and they had to have another PCRA hearing in front of Larry
Stengel.
essentially, and she went back to prison.
Well, he found -- he reversed everything
Now last June, I filed an Amicus on her behalf as
to move it in the case.
appeal case to get her out of prison.
controversial that 38,000 people signed a petition from
Lancaster to impeach the judge.
They never impeached him.
And I currently have a 3rd Circuit

Now the case was so
Of course, they lost.
But in 1997, the attorney that
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represented her had some dealings with me.
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Christina Rainville.
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Her name is
Now essentially my Amicus is based on a premise
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that I suffered the same prosecutorial misconduct that she
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suffered.
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federal whistleblower for International Signal Control, the
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firm selling arms to Iraq to a Black Ops Program with the
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CIA and the NSA -- I blew the whistle in '87 -- they were
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indicted in '91 -- and the fact that I'm a victim of mind
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control, there's ample reason and sufficient evidence of
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why people break into my house and steal my things and
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break my things.
Now you couple that with the fact that I'm the
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Now I presented transcripts from Nick Begich, who
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is a renowned expert in mind control, Karen Stewart, who is
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a former NSA whistleblower who suffers the same
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symptomatology as me, and Julianne McKinney, who is a
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former intelligence officer of the U.S. Army.
suffer the same symptoms that I do.
Security has been paying me disability benefits since 2008
for mind control.
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In addition, Social
Do you have a copy of the Disability
Determination?
Sure, I have it in here.
Can I take a look at it?
Yeah, it might take me a couple minutes to find
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Sure.
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This injunction was filed yesterday at 4:24 p.m.
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it.
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in the Lancaster County Courthouse.
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documentation with SSA.
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Now through the application process, I applied in April of
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'09 and received a check for $21,000 in August.
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se.
I have 191 pages of
Here is my letter, award letter.
I was pro
There were not psychiatric examinations.
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May I take a look at that as you're talking?
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Yes.
And there were no medical reports.
It was
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all awarded on my documentation of mind control symptoms
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and illnesses.
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back one year, retroactive one year.
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one year.
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'05, which is when I declared that I became full-time
What they did was -- I applied in April of
They awarded me benefits in August of '09 and paid me
They can only do it
But they declared me disabled in December of
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telepathic and under harassment with electromagnetic
weapons.
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That's what the '05 date is.

So I see, you know, the letter saying that you
became disabled under our rules on December 1, 2005.
Right.
It doesn't say anything as to why.
No, they don't do that.
They only -- what they do
is they give you an award letter and it either says
physical or mental, nothing beyond that because of HIPAA.
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But if you go through all the documentation I have of the
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entire process, you'll notice that there's no medical
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reports submitted.
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Joe Pitts' office to try to get them to give me a
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psychiatric evaluation because I thought it was required.
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They wouldn't give me one.
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for mental illness, impossible.
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And I begged them -- in fact, I went to
So it's impossible for it to be

It's just not.
You don't have a document anywhere from the Social
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Security Administration that says we've determined that
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you're disabled because of this condition?
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physical.
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They don't do that.
It's either mental or
If I had one, I'd present it.

Yeah.
It seems to me I've seen things to the
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contrary where there's been a determination that somebody
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is disabled --
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Well, they didn't give me any.
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-- for a particular reason.
Now my father collected disability.
He was a
victim of MKUltra.
What is that?
That's where mind control came from, a CIA
program.
It started in the '50s.
Okay.
You'll have to ask them.
I mean I understand what you're telling me about
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your role as a federal whistleblower but -A
He was Navy, a very intelligent person.
He was a
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member of the Air Gunners Squadron, which I have
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documentation from him that he left, which is like a
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special option.
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school.
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And he graduated with honors from their
So that could be why.

What I'd like to do is go back to what we were
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doing before and discuss the items that were on Exhibit 1
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that was marked at the first examination.
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started with that, two things.
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of the receipts from the items that were damaged or the
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replacement items that you purchased?
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Before I get
One, have you brought any
Can you guarantee me you're going to pay the
claim?
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Second, I don't have the ability to make
that guarantee.
I mean I could say yes and I --
I'm not going to waste my time.
All right.
I didn't have to do it for previous insurance
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So I'm not going to do it for this one.
All right.
Second, you had sent me an email I
think indicating that you had other items to add?

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Every day.
Seriously, every day.
injunction takes care of everything.

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I'm hoping this
So we'll see.
I'm not sure it has anything to do with this claim
but --
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It has everything to do with everything.
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All right.
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Let me read you the relief I'm requesting,
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emergency relief.
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Filed in the 3rd Circuit you said?
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No, Lancaster County Court of Common Pleas.
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I filed one in '09, and the judge ruled on it.
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So
I'm hoping she will on this one.
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What is the docket number?
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I didn't get one yet.
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I'll read it.
I just filed it yesterday.
Relief sought by Plaintiff.
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Complainant seeks immediate relief from the above in the
form of sanctions and fines for those guilty of extortion
and embezzlement and those withholding accounts
receivables.
law enforcement agencies that continue abuse of process.
Complainant seeks immediate relief from public officials
for obstructing justice and due process.
relief inasmuch as the Courts are able with regards to the
harassment and torture from those known of such crimes.
Complainant seeks immediate relief from the
Complainant seeks
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The Complainant seeks relief from stalking and
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harassing neighbors and requires law enforcement to make
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sure households can identify all occupants and prove they
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are entitled to the lease and/or deed.
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seeks relief by awarding the Complainant his pro se
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billings invoice.
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the Complainant summary judgment in all cases filed before
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the Lancaster County Court of Common Pleas in retaliation
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for the arrogance of both the local law enforcement
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community and the judicial system for the systematic abuse
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of process and the extreme nature of the obstruction of
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justice, which in itself is responsible for putting the
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Complainant's life in harm's way on a daily basis.
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The Complainant
The Complainant seeks relief by awarding
All right.
Changing gears.
Going back to the
list here of items that you've submitted.
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Date,
I think we left
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off talking about the cost of repairs for your computers
which were hacked.
going to move onto the next item, which is a wet dry vac.
So we talked about that.
Okay.
Tell me about that.
Let's see what they did to that one.
And we're
Oh, they
burnt the motor out.
Okay.
Oh, boy, that happened fairly recently.
When did that happen?

That
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March.
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on Stonehill Road in Conestoga in 1995.
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replaced it with was a compact unit.
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broken was full-sized.
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power motor.
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I think the original price of the one I bought -- I want to
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say it was 150.
I'm going to say
Now the wet dry vac I bought when I built my house

Now the one I
The one that was
I think it was, like, a two horse
The one I replaced it with I think was $69.
It was a Craftsman, the original one.
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It was 21-years-old?
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Okay.
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And one day you started -- you tried to use it and
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Did you use it on a regular basis?
it didn't work?
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Yeah, worked the day before and then it didn't
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Okay.
I guess it was February.
Cordless phone, tell me about that.

I have magicJack.
Are
you familiar with that?
No.
It's where you use the internet for your phone.
Like a Voice Over --
Yeah.
-- what do they call that -- VOI?
Only it's different in that they give you a module
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that you connect to your computer.
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Now what I did was -- they came out with a new
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version where you connect it to your Comcast router so that
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instead of -- before with the old version, you had to have
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the computer on for the phone to work.
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I upgraded to the new version and connected it to my
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Comcast server.
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So I went to Radio Shack and bought a new cordless phone.
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Well, it lasted a month and doesn't work anymore.
So I switched over.
So that means the magicJack is live 24/7.
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No.
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Why not?
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Just too busy.
What I do on that line -- I
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forward it anyway to my cell phone number, and I was using
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it just, you know, sporadically.
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would replace it?

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They probably would.
priorities.
replace it.
I'm just too busy, just
I mean I could probably take it back now and
I would think so.
Oh, boy, what a mess that was.
Cable boxes and modem.

Okay.
Let's see.
I guess in February or March I went to upgrade all my cable
boxes.
And at the same time, somebody from Comcast told me
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that if I hook up to Comcast Business I would get a more
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secure internet connection and a faster connection.
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hook up to Comcast Business on a 60 day trial.
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me a box, a new -- or, in fact, no, they came out and
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installed it -- a new router.
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reversed everything and said no, it's not more secure.
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I disconnected it.
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my cable boxes, but they never worked.
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back and forth to Comcast two or three times.
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techs would come out.
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I don't know if people put chips in them.
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they just sabotaged them or what.
So I
They send
And after two weeks, they
Then I went to Comcast and upgraded all

I mean I was going
Service
They couldn't find the problem.
You don't know why they're not working?
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Comcast doesn't even know why.
They couldn't
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even -- I'd get billed for HBO for three months, and I
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never had HBO.
I mean it wouldn't work.
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So
I don't know if
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And I kept
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getting on the phone with customer service spending two
hours -- one time two and a half hours, and it still didn't
work.
Okay.
That was probably two months ago, three months
They still couldn't fix it.

How long ago was that?
ago, after the first of the year, probably the second
quarter.
Are they still trying to fix the problem?
I stopped trying.
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The 100 dollar cost to replace, is that
just the value of the cable boxes and the modems or modem?
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Comcast Business billed me.
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yeah, that's basically what it is.
They all billed me.
I mean,
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not accept the return of the modem.
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then, and they wouldn't pick it up.
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I couldn't return it
Do you have any written correspondence between
yourself and Comcast over the issue?

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Yeah, I have notes.
I have -- yeah, I have emails
I guess, yeah.
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Would you be willing to forward those to me?
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that.
But it was a mess.
I even
think I recorded the one tech that came to my door.
He got
smart with me.
this.
Yeah, I can dig those up, something pertaining to

I mean I forget exactly.
I had to throw him off my property.
I'm probably going to butcher the pronunciation of

Is it Sakrete or Sakrete?
Oh, Sakrete, yeah.
Listen what they did.
had -- I was putting post holes -- putting posts in my back
yard for a six foot wooden fence.
And what these kids next
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door were doing was they were going and wetting the bags,
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ruining the whole bag.
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know how heavy Sakrete is when it's hardened cement?
Now that's not the issue.
Do you
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Yeah, I got a sense for that.
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I had to break it up and put it in buckets and
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take it out to the alley.
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So basically they ruined the bags?
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Made them unusable?
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Is that $4 a bag or --
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Yeah.
And you have $12 there?
That's not the half of it.
They filled in
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the holes before I could -- I had to dig the holes out two
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or three times.
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When you say they, again who is they?
I assume it's the people next door.
They are the
ones who sic the pit bull on me that I had to go to the
hospital for two weeks ago.
Oh, gees.
Oh, yeah.
Are you all right?
I had to go to the ER and take antibiotics for 10
days.
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Okay.
The next item I have is just miscellaneous
clothes, $100?
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Yeah, they are always ruining my clothes.
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Ruining them or stealing them?
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Both.
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that?
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They'll put spots on them so I can't wear them,
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the shirts, or they'll shrink them.
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slippers they make big.
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kinds of tricks.
They've done that.
So I can't wear those.
My
I mean all
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Slippers big.
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They made them big.
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If you -- I have those three experts I mentioned.
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They made -So I can't wear them.
They all talk about -- the first thing they do in these
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programs is break into your house, and it's impossible,
impossible to find out how they get in.
were here.
Forced entry?
Yes, a broken window --
No ---
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-- in '87, I did.
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You don't have any signs of forced entry?
Well, I had forced entry by the
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of entry, but not forced.

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When you say signs of entry, you define that by
the fact things were missing?

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Moved, missing, lights on that were off or off
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porch -- you know, if I go out in the evening, I'll leave
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my front porch light on.
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and, you know, hard to get in, you know, to see your key
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hole and things like that.
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The other night my
Well, I came home and it's off
It's harassment.
The next item you have is vapor electronic
cigarettes?
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Oh, yeah, now they help you reduce smoking regular
cigarettes.
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These are the E-Cigs?
Yeah, but they are the pens with cartridges.
are expensive.
like at Turkey Hill or something.
that -- they are three in one.
or dry herbs.
nicotine.
think, I think one after that.
They
They are not the ones you buy in the store

These are the ones
You can smoke waxes, oils
Now what I get is, like, six milligrams of
It's in liquid form.
They stole my fifth one I
All from home?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, all from home, yeah, five of them.
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I don't leave this behind.
No, no, they were stolen.

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Same thing, you don't know when they got in, how
they got in, but they are just not there anymore?
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Well, I mean in 2009 -- let me give you an
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document daily in journals all the incidents that I'm
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describing.
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every day.
In 2010, I said I have enough documentation.
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That's it.
I mean it's a full-time job.
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those.
Okay.
This is what I used to do.
I did that for about a year, very detailed,
I can send you
I mean I have those in PDF form.
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I can send you those.
I used to
I mean I can email those to
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you.
the Court?
This whole thing is the emergency injunction.
All right.
It looks like this is something that's filed with
Well, I mean that should be available
online.
I'd say three days.
This is filed with the prothonotary --
Yes.
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Yeah, I can show you the stamped pages.
I just
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had to make copies.
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I'm waiting for a cartridge to be delivered today.
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you page to the left, you'll see the three pages that were
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stamped.
My toner mysteriously went out, and

But if
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That's not what I was supposed to get there.
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There you go.
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down.
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If you swipe it -- no, it's up and
There is four pages stamped there.

Yeah, it just has the time stamp on it.
It
doesn't have the docket number.

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No, yeah, they didn't -- I guess I could have
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maybe got them to give me a docket number, but they didn't.
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You know, I didn't push it.
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All right.
25
Here you can see the -- there's the state cover
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Yeah, they didn't stamp it with a docket number
either.
This is the civil cover sheet.
Okay.
And this is the first page of the injunction.
Judge Margaret Miller ruled on mine in '09 and
essentially -- it was similar to this.
what she said was that I didn't provide her enough evidence
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for her to rule in my favor.
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she said.
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victim of mind control.
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because I got corroborating witnesses.
But this time it's a lot different
Okay.
15
Dr. Nick Begich.
Who are the corroborating witnesses?

He's an expert in mind control
technologies.
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Where is he out of?
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Alaska.
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In a nutshell, that's what
Plus she said she didn't really believe I was a
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And essentially
Administration.
His father was killed by the Hoover

He was a U.S. congressman.
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What was the last name again?
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Begich, B-e-g-i-c-h.
I'm sorry.
Now his brother just
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finished a term in Congress last year in the Senate.
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Anyway, his father back in -- I forget what year it was --
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was traveling with the Speaker of the House, Wayne Boggs,
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and they were both killed in a plane accident.
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were raising hell about Hoover with his CoIntel Program.
So anyway, Nick Begich began doing research on the HARP
Installation in Alaska, which is a 180 antenna array that
is the focus or the basis for electromagnetic weapons.
It's called HARP.
convinced the European Parliament to ban electromagnetic
weapons.
transcript of his lecture in October of 2015, and he gave a
lecture during the Covert Harassment Conference in Belgium.
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Now back about eight years ago, he
So he's a renowned expert.
Now I have a
I think it was Belgium.
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Okay.
12
Yes, then I have Karen Stewart.
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You mentioned her.
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Karen Stewart is a former NSA whistleblower.
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National Security Agency when you say NSA?
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Yeah, yeah.
Do you have other witnesses?
She blew the whistle in 2004.
Now
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she just emailed me three weeks ago.
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information, and she emailed me back and said thank you for
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it.
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determined that some weaponry that was being used over in
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Afghanistan and Iraq wasn't performing up to standards.
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And she more or less drew attention to it to the U.S.
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Military, and somebody took credit for her work.
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became an NSA whistleblower.
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same problems I did, people breaking in her house,
I emailed some
Anyway, she -- essentially what happened was she
And she
Then she started having the
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electromagnetic weapon attacks, things like that.
Now the NSA is critical for two reasons.
I blew
the whistle on ISC, the Lancaster firm selling arms to
Iraq.
was with the NSA.
director of the NSA, was on their board of directors.
also owns a company that deals in mind control.
Bill Clinton nominated him to be the Secretary of Defense,
and he withdrew because of the ISC scandal.
Their first program -- their first contract in 1973

Bobby Ray Inman, who was the former
He
In 1994,
Plus on March
10
9th, the NSA took me into custody, false imprisoned me for
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an hour and a half and had eight security police
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interrogate me for no reason.
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Of this year, March of this year?
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Yeah, down in Fort Meade.
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Where is Fort Meade?
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That's the NSA.
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Is Fort Meade in Colorado?
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Maryland.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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Dogs at my car, handcuffed me, interrogated me and
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then told me I couldn't go down to Washington, D.C. and
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told me I wasn't allowed on federal property anymore, which
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was a lie.
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of them.
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I walked away and essentially made a fool out
Karen Stewart, where is she located?
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Well, she worked down in Fort Meade, Maryland, but
she since -- after she blew the whistle and started having
symptoms, she moved to Florida -- I believe that's where
she's at now -- with family.
Okay.
I got a little sidetracked there.
Let me
bring you back to the next item, which is HVLP tips.
they related to the cigarettes?
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sprayer.
Are
No, no, that's a high-volume,low-pressure paint

What they did was -- I bought a used one at the
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Reuse It Store off of Pitney Road out near Greenfield
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Industrial Park.
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come with it, so different velocities for the paint, like
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smaller and larger.
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instruction manual and brushes to clean it.
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everything in a clear plastic bag to keep it all together.
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I went to use the sprayer, and the bag was gone.
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to go out and buy a brand-new HVLP.
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one I bought -- I think I paid 60 for it.
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Okay.
And I brought it home, and I put -- tips
It comes with three tips.
Tips.
So I put
It cost me $119.
The
What did you lose two of?
Yeah, what they did was they put the small
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tip in.
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you know, you need the larger tip.
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thought I could replace the tips, but you can't.
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to replace the whole thing.
So I had
You have a quantity lost two and then
estimated cost to replace 45.

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It had an
So I'm trying to spray stain for my fence, and,
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Okay.
I don't mean to be redundant.
So I'm just
going to ask you --
That's all right.
-- a blanket question here if it applies to all of
these items here, and I'll show it to you.
items, you don't have -- or you're not willing to produce a
receipt.
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For all these
Correct?
Only if you give me a guarantee that you're going
to pay the claim.
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And I've told you I can't do that.
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Okay.
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None of these items have been reported as lost or
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stolen or damaged to the police.
Correct?
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To the police?
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Yes.
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I'm in this injunction accusing the police of
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trying to kill me.
No, I mean I can't.
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All right.
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That's what abuse of process is.
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And none of these items -It's when the
police do not take your complaints.

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And for any of these items, you do not have -- you
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can't tell me specifically who it was who stole it or broke
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it or whatever the case may be?
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No.
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All right.
I'm not going to keep asking that
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question.
I can -- I can tell you this.
Since 2006, the
neighbors at 1252 Fremont Street have been engaged in a
constant harassment and threat campaign no matter who is in
that house.
Has there been a change in --
Oh, yeah, three times.
Is it a rental house?
Yes.
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Do you know who the current residents are?
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No, they don't tell me the truth, no.
I mean I
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filed a private criminal complaint against them in the
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County D.A.'s Office this year.
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harass me.
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happened June 10th.
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Center on College Avenue.
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and 10 Vicodin.
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shots, but I didn't do it.
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have the hospital report.
They are Spanish.
They are the ones who sic the dog on me.
That
I went to Lancaster Regional Medical

Dr. Westphal gave me antibiotics
Now he wanted me to go through rabies

I said the dog wasn't rabid.
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The next item is a staple airgun?
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Right.
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That was theft.
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They
They stole my staple airgun.

That wasn't damaged.
That was
theft?
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Yeah, theft.
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When was that?
That was theft.
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This all -- this all happened when I started
erecting the new six foot fence and a screened-in porch in
my back.
And I started construction March 10th.
So sometime after March 10th?
Yeah.
And I don't know if I asked you about the HVLP
tips.
I'm going to say in May.
Of this year?
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Yeah.
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I also don't think I asked you about the five
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But when were those taken?
vapor electronic cigarette cartridges.

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Okay.
I bought my first one -- let me see.
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say that was all after January 1st.
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after January 1st.
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I bought one at the convenience store on Manor or
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Millersville Pike, Hershey Avenue.
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I'd
Yeah, they were all
I bought one downtown at Puff N' Stuff.
In doing the math here, it looks like they go for
about 50 to $60 a piece?

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Yeah, some are -- that's the minimum.
last one I bought was $79.

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Okay.
I think the
That's the minimum price.
The next one is a belt for $9.
Are we
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Stolen, damaged?
Stolen.
When?
Within the past two months.
The next one is a 36 inch by 100 feet --
Oh, yeah.
-- black screen?
That was to do my screened-in porch.
replace it.
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Stolen?
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Stolen.
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In fact, I just bought that -- I replaced
that probably a month ago.

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I'm sorry?
You just replaced the screen for the
screened-in porch?
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Yeah, it's a roll.
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Right.
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roll.
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It's 100 by --
I'm familiar with them.
So it was on the
Somebody just took the roll?

Yeah, it was in a plastic bag, yeah, plastic
sleeve, yeah, took the whole roll.

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Okay.
And the last one is one pair of work
gloves?
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Yeah.
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I know what work gloves are.
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Yeah.
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I had to
Now here's what they do.
A lot of times
they'll steal it and then a week later they'll return it.
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I mean they play games like that.
warfare along with the theft and damages.
It's psychological
Were any of these items ever returned to you?
Some.
I mean I can't keep track.
list.
possession.
Some were.
Okay.
Then they'd steal them again.

It's hard to keep track of it.
As of today, are -- here, I'll show you the
Tell me if any of those items are in your
Let's see.
Well, some of these are damaged.
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wished they returned the vapor electronic cigarettes.
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the work gloves they did return.
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them.
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I
Now
I found where they put
So they are in your possession at least as of
today?
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Yes, they are.
I don't know if they'll stay
there.
Q
Now is there anything that you would like to add
to supplement to this list?
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As far as the list or evidence or what?
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No, as far as the list of items.
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Yeah, I could -- you know, I can update, yeah.
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can send them to you.

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Of anything that you would add to that list, would
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they all have been items in which were lost or damaged --
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stolen or damaged in the same way as the items that we've
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discussed?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got tired of making --
keeping lists.
think.
Okay.
morning -- I produced an exhibit, a DVD, a disk with this
case to the Courts.
myself.
That happened this morning.
But I -- well, let me do it now.
Let me see.
Let me
We talked about the new vapor pen.
Here is a for instance.
I went to -- this
So I have to make a copy today for
The DVD recorder doesn't work on my computer.

Yesterday -- oh, this morning
10
I found that two day's worth of photos in my phone were
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missing from my computer.
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and on.
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anything substantial because I probably -- well, the toner
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cartridge.
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toner gets low, it will give you a warning that you need to
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soon replace your toner.
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document.
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out, but it never gave me the warning.
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capability of actually hacking into my copier because it's
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a wireless copier.
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off.
I mean there is nothing -- I'm trying to think of
What happens is I have a copier.
And when the
Well, I'm producing this
And at the 611th page, it says black ink toner

So they have the
So I had to order a new ink cartridge.
Now you did mention -- and I don't mean to cut you

Is there anything else that you want to talk about?
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No.
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All right.
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Yeah, you know, the list goes on
Now you did mention that you had
submitted two similar claims to other insurers?
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Yeah, yeah.
Tell me about those.
They were in '05 I was paid and '06.
I -- okay.
Conestoga, PA.
about the same, somewhere around $6,000.
schedule similar to this, and they paid from that schedule.
Now what they did was the one they paid the claim, but they
inflated the depreciation value.
It's when
It's when I lived at 220 Stonehill Road,

The claims were about -- I think they were
I produced a
So I filed a complaint
10
with the Pennsylvania Insurance Commission.
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no, 2007 or 8, after I moved to 1250 Fremont Street, I
12
tried to file a claim.
13
filing that on my mother's property casualty policy.
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would have filed another claim.
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Now in 2006 --
But my brother blocked me from

So I
Now the insurance companies, they have a database
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of all the insurance claims that are paid out.
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familiar with that?
Are you
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No.
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Yeah, there's a database that actuaries use.
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don't know how you access it or what.
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have a correspondence from the Southern Regional Police
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Department in 2006 -- 5 or 6 regarding all my complaints to
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them about incidents regarding vandalism and thefts.
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Southern Regional Police covered Conestoga Township back
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then.
The other thing is I
Now
Now I went to try to find -- I know I had paperwork
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on the claims.
claims, but I can't find them in my computer.
I had copies of the checks, copies of the
Do you remember who the insurers were?
Harleysville was for one, maybe both of them, you
know.
Theft or damaged or --
Just like this, yeah.
And they were the same type of claims.
I tried to find them.
have backup disks now.
three laptop drives and two external hard drives from 2005
Unfortunately, there is -- I have
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and 6 that are in my safety deposit box.
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equipment so that I could more or less connect those drives
12
to my computer and read them, but the equipment would come
13
and it won't work.
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until I'm more secure with the computer hacking, I can't do
15
anything with them.
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even though they took them from my current drive.
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you.
Okay.
I ordered
So I have them stored.
But, you know,
But I'm sure the claims are in there
I don't think I have any more questions for
Is there anything that you'd like to add to this?

A
No.
If you could tell me what you want other than
the receipts.
Q
There was a letter sent to you I believe sometime
between the first examination and the second examination.

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that.
I couldn't find it.
I tried to find it this
That's why I asked you what time.
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I don't think I have --
I think I have a hard copy, but I didn't want to
root through my file.
and I couldn't find it.
letter format because I scan everything?
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I tried to find it on my computer

Did you email it or did it come in
I believe I was emailed a copy of it, but I
think -- I assume it was sent to you in letter format.
Are you talking about the one form Allstate --
Yes.
10
-- or the one from you?
11
No, no, the one from Allstate.
12
I have that.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, I have that.
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that.
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They want a document filled out and --
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Right.
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-- forwarded back to them.
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Was I supposed to bring that today?
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It would have been helpful, but it's not
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mandatory.
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don't have to send it to me.
That's right.
Yeah, I have
If you could get it back to Mr. Eisenhard.
You
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Okay.
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Other than that, you know, I don't know that there
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was -- whatever Allstate had requested.
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Okay.
MR. REESER:
Okay.
And we're done.
Thank you
very much.
THE WITNESS:
(Whereupon, the examination concluded at 10:12
Yeah.
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COUNTY OF DAUPHIN
COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA
SS
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I, Diane A. Smith, a Notary Public, authorized to
administer oaths within and for the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania, do hereby certify that the foregoing is the
testimony of Stanley J. Caterbone.
I further certify that before the taking of said
examination, the witness was duly sworn; that the questions
and answers were taken down stenographically by the said
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Reporter-Notary Public, and afterwards reduced to
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typewriting under the direction of the said Reporter.
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I further certify that the said examination was
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taken at the time and place specified in the caption sheet
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hereof.
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I further certify that I am not a relative or
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employee or attorney or counsel to any of the parties, or a
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relative or employee of such attorney or counsel, or
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financially interested directly or indirectly in this
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action.
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I further certify that the said examination
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constitutes a true record of the testimony given by the
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said witness.
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IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand
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this 11th day of July, 2016.

_______________________________________________
Diane A. Smith, Reporter
Notary Public
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EXAMINATION UNDER OATH OF

TAKEN BY:
ALLSTATE INSURANCE COMPANY
BEFORE:
DIANE F. FOLTZ, RMR

NOTARY PUBLIC
DATE:
JUNE 9, 2016, 9:15 A.M.
PLACE:
LANCASTER COUNTY BAR

ASSOCIATION
28 EAST ORANGE STREET
LANCASTER, PENNSYLVANIA
APPEARANCES:
MARSHALL, DENNEHEY, WARNER, COLEMAN & GOGGIN
BY: CHRISTOPHER M. REESER, ESQUIRE
FOR - ALLSTATE INSURANCE COMPANY
Stan J. Caterbone Under Oath
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WITNESSES
NAME
BY: MR. REESER
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STANLEY J. CATERBONE, called as a witness, being

duly sworn, testified as follows:
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EXAMINATION
BY MR. REESER:
Could you state your name, please?
Stanley J. Caterbone, C-a-t-e-r-b-o-n-e.
Would you mind if I called you Stan or Stanley?
Stan.
Stan, okay.
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And my name's Chris Reeser.
You can
call me Chris.
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All right.
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I'm not a real formal guy.
I have been asked to
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take a statement from you relative to an insurance claim
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which I understood to have occurred as a result of
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something on April 3rd of 2016, but by some correspondence
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that I received from you, my understanding is that is not
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the date of loss.
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No.
That date is the date that I started the
spreadsheet --
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Okay.
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-- of the items lost or vandalized.
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All right.
This statement is part of the process
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of collecting information and evaluating the claim.
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Allstate's policy, as does just about any insurance
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company's policy, provides that part of the duty of an
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insured is to give an examination under oath --
Okay.
-- at the request of the insured -- at the
request of the insurer, so that is what this is.
I've had --
Go ahead.
I've had -- I've collected on two or three
Go ahead.
policies with the same types of claims, and I've never been
put under oath --
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Okay.
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So noted.
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Okay.
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And I'll ask you about that.
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And I don't mind under oath.
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Well --
Well, a first time for everything.
This
is --
ask of their insured.

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Oh, I don't mind at all.
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Okay.
Great.
So I'm going to ask you some
questions about that.
Okay.
I usually when I take these statements -- and
I've taken a couple of them -- have some information about
the claim.
claim.
Okay.
So --
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Can I give you a brief history --
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Go.
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-- to put it in perspective?
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Yeah.
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I am a federal whistleblower.
I have very little information about this
Go.
I blew the whistle
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on International Signal Control or ISC in 1987.
They were
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indicted in 1991 for a billion dollar fraud and selling
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illegal arms to Iraq.
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1987 they --
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I'm sorry.
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Yes.
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operations.
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Okay.
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Now, since -- I've been trying to get into
Now, I was a shareholder, and in
You were a shareholder in ISC?
They solicited me to finance some
So I'm a legitimate, bona fide whistleblower.
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courts, hired various attorneys from '87 all the way up.
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In 2005 I entered the federal court system as a pro se
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litigant.
I filed my own claims.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, here's what happened.
I became a
victim of organized stalking, electronic harassment or mind
control technologies.
show you some expert testimony -- is that what they do is
they break into your home, vandalize, steal, move things
around.
policies making the same types of claims.
Now, what happens is -- and I'll
And since '05 I've collected on two or three
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losses are not a single-day loss.
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period of time.
Now, these
They happen over a
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Okay.
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And I can't give you dates as far as when what
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was taken, when that was taken, but that's just a
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background for your reference as far as this is not an
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ordinary claim.
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When you say they, who is they?
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Well, I don't know, you know.
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say.
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be agents.
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It could be neighbors.
It's impossible to
It could be police.
It could be anybody.
But you believe that they are all in conspiracy
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whistleblower?
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that.
It could
I'm going to refer you to documents to explain

As a victim of electronic harassment and gang
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stalking, the victim -- part of the victimization is that
they break into your home.
Okay.
But you don't know who the they is?
Well, of course not.
Have you ever seen anybody in the act?
I have one person on a security camera video.
Okay.
That was in 2006.
And was there an insurance claim related to that?
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Not to that particular person, no.
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All right.
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But there was a claim that year.
Harleysville
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paid me once or twice, and there was another one.
But
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unfortunately I'm also the victim of computer hacking.
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These are all the reports from the past year on Geek Squad
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and other companies reviewing and analyzing and fixing my
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hard drives after they've been hacked.
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Okay.
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I filed about, oh, boy, since '06 or '07 probably
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I don't know what an IC3 report is.
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It's an online complaint regarding anything
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fraudulent online to the FBI.
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Okay.
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I've had face-to-face meetings with the FBI
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probably about 15 times.
Locally?
Philly and Harrisburg.
Is there a particular agent that you meet with?
No.
Could you tell me the names of any of the agents
No.
that you meet with?
No.
Okay.
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I can verify the meetings, I mean.
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What -- what's the reason for the meetings?
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Complaints --
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Okay.
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You said you're a victim of electronic
16
harassment.
17
Okay.
18
What have been the other forms?
19
They use microwave technology, microwaves to
Now, I understand what computer hacking is.

Electronic harassment.
20
alter your brain state.
21
cause extreme pain in any part of your body.
22
create synthetic telepathy.
23
with the weapons.
24
25
It causes extreme -- they can

They can
They can essentially kill you
Now, in the 1950's the Russians used it against

our -- the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, the same weapons.
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in the 1970's there was what's called the Church Committee.
The CIA had to come clean on these programs.
supposed to have stopped them, but they didn't, and that's
-- there's Senate testimony.
then was Stansfield Turner.
Senate, and they admitted to all the programs that I'm
describing.
Okay.
MKUltra was the main program.
10
How do you know that?
11
How do I know what?
12
I mean, how do you know you're a victim of
13
The Director of the CIA back

He testified before the
microwave technology to alter your brain waves?
14
15
They were
Some nights I can't walk.
The pain is that bad.
What do you mean how do I know?
16
I mean, I don't know.
17
Don't get smart with me, or I'll walk out this
I don't know.
18
door.
19
20
I'm not being smart.
I'm trying
to understand this.
21
Okay.
22
How do I -- you know, how do I know I'm not?
23
Do you ever complain about it?
24
I mean, I have pain.
25
pain.
I don't know why I have
I just -- I'm trying to understand.
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Listen, yesterday I filed 300 pages in the
Pennsylvania Supreme Court on a case against Lancaster City
Police and the county residents.
Okay.
There are -- there is expert testimony in here
from, one, an NSA whistleblower named Karen Stewart who
will back up just about everything I say.
from a Julianne McKinney who is a former Army intelligence
officer.
The second is
The third is from a renowned expert named Nick
10
Begich whose father was killed by someone in the Hoover
11
Administration.
12
read them.
There are transcripts in here.
You can
13
Okay.
14
You can learn all about it.
15
May I have this?
16
No.
17
Okay.
18
Or I can give you it in electronic format.
19
20
21
22
23
You can make a copy.
have a PDF around my neck.

Q
I'll give you a copy.
Well, I see that it's a Petition for Allowance of
Appeal which means that it's -A
I'm appealing a Superior Court decision to the
Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
24
Okay.
25
I'm a very successful litigator by the way.
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How --
I'm the amicus for Kathleen Kane in her criminal
case in the Superior Court in Philadelphia.
movant for Lisa Michelle Lambert.
I'm also the
Okay.
I've got three Third Circuit cases now that are
7
8
9
10
awaiting decisions.
Q
And this is an appeal from the Lancaster County
Court of Common Pleas.
I assume it went then to the
Superior Court?
11
I took it to the Superior Court, right.
12
Okay.
13
They dismissed it --
14
Okay.
15
-- two weeks before oral arguments.
16
And what happened there?
Oral
arguments were scheduled for May 24th.
17
Okay.
18
They were scheduled since January.
Both cases
19
were arguably -- I mean, maliciously dismissed two weeks
20
before oral arguments.
21
before them.
22
23
Okay.
They didn't want me to appear
Give me some background.
you worked -- maybe I misheard you.
24
No.
25
Okay.
I mean, you said
Did you work for ISC?
You were a stockholder?
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Yes.
Okay.
He was a stockbroker back then.
he is?
Gib Armstrong sold me the stock in 1983.
Do you know who
Former Pennsylvania Senator.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the name.
Are you
employed right now?
No, I'm -- I collect Social Security disability
for symptoms and illnesses related to U.S. mind control,
documented, verified.
10
Huh.
11
They've been paying me since '08.
12
Okay.
13
for that?
Do they -- do they pay you by the month
Is it --
14
You never heard of Social Security disability?
15
I have.
16
Yeah.
17
Okay.
18
My first check was for $21,000.
They paid me.
19
applied in '09.
20
'05 when I declared I was full-time telepathic, but they
21
could only pay me back one year.
22
to '09 in one check, and then I've been getting monthly
23
checks ever since.
24
25
Okay.
They declared me disabled in December of
So they paid me back '08
Well, let's talk about this claim a little
bit.
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Okay.
I'm going to have this marked as Exhibit 1.
I have a new one here.
Okay.
Well, why don't you -- why don't we mark
-- can I take that, or do you need that?
Yeah.
No.
Okay.
We won't mark the one I have.
Here.
That's updated.
MR. REESER:
Do you want to put a sticker
(List of items produced and marked Exhibit No.
13
1.)
14
BY MR. REESER:
16
Okay.
on there?
12
15
Every day I have stuff
missing.
10
11
This is for you.
All right.
Now, I'm just going to go through
these items that you have --
17
Yeah.
18
-- listed in order from top to bottom.
19
You're
making a claim for a dishwasher?
20
Right.
21
Is this a dishwasher that was in your home?
22
Yeah, but you know -- I'm trying to think what
23
year that was actually broken.
24
Scratch the dishwasher off of that.
25
That might predate this.
The dishwasher is not being claimed, correct?
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Yes.
Yes, let's take that off.
All right.
And I should ask you this beforehand.
I kind of lost track.
Your brief or your petition that was
filed to the Supreme Court listed an address of 1250
Freemont Street.
That's -- that's your home address?
Yes.
Okay.
No.
All right.
10
In fact, I sent a copy of the deed in with the
11
claim.
12
13
Does anybody else live there with you?
I believe I saw that, which I think there were a
number of grantees.
14
My brothers.
15
Okay.
16
No.
17
And they wouldn't be insured under the Allstate
18
But none of them live there?
policy?
19
Yeah, they're listed as other insureds.
20
Okay.
21
Yeah.
22
Okay.
23
Do any of these items -- are they owners
of any of the items?
24
No.
25
Okay.
I purchased the policy for everybody.

Front and back door locks?
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Right.
Tell me about that.
Okay.
In July of 2015 -- yeah, July, 2015, the
benevolent Lancaster City Police Department served me with
a 302 petition, but what they did was they broke into my
house, smashed in the front door.
to pay for all the locks and the door, but they didn't.
8
9
10
Now, they were supposed
So I had to get a new front door, and I had to

get all the locks changed in the front and back door,
rekeyed.
11
Okay.
12
Mental health warrant.
13
All right.
14
I've had about eight of them.
15
do.
302 petition?
That's what they
That's part of the slander campaign.
16
What do they --
17
That's pretty routine.
18
What do they claim?
19
Well, I'm mentally ill.
20
Okay.
21
That's their -- that's their defense.
22
Is there a form of mental illness that they try
23
I make all this up.
to pin on you?
24
Oh, yeah.
25
What?
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Which one do you want?
Oh, there's been more than one?
Bipolar, schizophrenic, delusional disorder, you
4
5
6
What year?
name it.
Q
Okay.
Were you hospitalized or
institutionalized --
Oh, yeah.
-- as a result -- as a result of this one, the
one in July?
10
Oh, yeah, Fairmont.
11
For how long?
12
Oh, that was about five -- eight days, I guess.
13
And how did that end?
14
They always -- they give me a hearing.
15
Then they
have to release me.
16
Okay.
17
They're always pretty much the same.
It started
18
in '87.
19
Harbor Beach Patrol.
20
was making a movie with Tony Bongiovi who owns Power
21
Station Studios, one of the world's most famous recording
22
studios.
23
The first one was was somebody called up the Stone

My resume's in there.
In 1987 we're making a movie.
24
for an office down in Stone Harbor.
25
the movie in New Jersey on the boardwalk.
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But in 1987 I
I rented a home
We were going to shoot

Somebody called
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the Stone Harbor Police Department and said I was running
to the beach to kill myself, totally made up, fabricated.
That's how it all started with the mental illness.
Okay.
Okay.
Smashed in your front door?
Oh, yeah, with -- like a drug raid.
So going back to the door for a second --
I stood
there and took pictures of them as they came through.
Do you actually have the pictures?
10
Oh, yeah, it's part of it.
11
Part of?
12
The -- they're in here.
Oh, let me see.
No, they're in this one.
This one.
No.
Where
13
are they?
These
14
are black and white.
15
pages.
16
only reason you could do that is if someone -- is if you
17
knew that someone was in there with a gun to their head.
18
was in -- I was in the upstairs window talking to them
19
trying to get them to get away from me quite honestly.
They're hard to see, but the next two
Totally illegal what they did.
The only way, the
20
Okay.
21
I filed a lawsuit against Lancaster City Police
22
in '08.
It's a federal lawsuit.
23
one of the documents I have here.
In fact, that's part of
24
Is that still ongoing?
25
I withdrew without prejudice because of the
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computer hacking, so I can re-file, go back to it any time
I want.
Okay.
Most of my lawsuits I withdrew without prejudice.
5
6
I just couldn't litigate with all the hacking.

Q
Can -- do you have any photographs that show the
damage to the door?
I mean, I see a door that's open.
see a police officer --
Yeah.
10
-- apparently standing there.
11
Yeah.
12
Okay.
13
In fact, I bought the door at the Habitat reuse
Yeah, I do.
14
it store.
But what happened was they charged me like $400
15
to change all the locks.
Wizard Lock did it.
16
Do you have -- do you have the receipt for that?
17
Yeah, I could dig that up.
18
You don't have it with you right now?
19
No.
20
You bought the door -- I'm sorry -- Habitat?
21
For Humanity.
22
Habitat?
23
Habitat for Humanity.
24
Oh, Habitat for Humanity.
25
The reuse it store.
I'm a little hard of hearing.
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Reuse it.
Out on Old Philadelphia Pike back behind
Greenfield.
door than was on there.
The door looks brand new, I mean, a better
The door, the replacement door you bought there?
Yeah.
What about the original door, was that -- had
8
9
that been there for years?

A
No, that was done in 1996.
My mother was part of
10
the Lancaster City Homeowners Rehab or Revitalization or
11
Rehab Program where if you qualify, they'll come in and
12
rehab your home, bring it up to code and put a seven-year
13
lien on your house for the cost of the improvements.
14
year 10 -- 10 or 15 percent comes off, so if you stay in
15
the house for 7 years, it's all free.
16
I see.
17
So the doors are part of that.
18
Okay.
19
'96 at the time.
20
And you may have said this.
21
didn't get it.
22
that -- the replacement door?
23
$20.
24
$20?
25
Yes.
Each
I apologize if I
How much did you actually pay for the door
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But it cost you 400 to get the locks replaced?
Yeah.
And that was done again by?
Wizard.
Wizard.
Locks.
And you can get me the receipt?
Yeah.
And my question about that was going to be did
Yeah.
10
you report this to the police, but I guess given the
11
circumstances --
12
Here's the situation.
I've -- I've been
13
reporting to the police ever since it started, but usually
14
they're part of the program.
15
complaints.
16
to sue them.
17
Okay.
18
I have letters which are a part of the documents
They won't take my
I mean, I had to sue them.
That's why I had
19
going to the police explaining the vandalism and the
20
break-ins that they won't, you know, report on or
21
investigate or...
22
And this happened July of '15?
23
July 8th, I think, yeah, 2015.
24
July 8th, 2015, okay.
25
Was there any other damage
done, physical damage to your house done --
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No.
-- as a result of that incident?
Just the door.
Okay.
5
6
The next one I have on your list is an
Apple Video iPod.

A
Right.
What they did was I can't -- the menu
button doesn't work.
'05 or '06.
Okay.
10
I since bought a replacement for it.
11
All right.
12
Now, that iPod I bought back in 2006,
You bought -- this particular Apple
Video iPod you bought in '05 or '06?
13
Yeah.
14
Where did you buy it at?
15
I might have bought it at a Best Buy in Florida.
16
Okay.
17
Boy, 3, $400 probably.
18
Okay.
19
It's when they first came out, so the video iPods
20
Do you remember what you paid for it?
And then when did you --
were expensive.
21
Yeah.
22
No.
23
-- just an iPod?
24
Right, video iPod.
25
And then you noticed a problem with it when?
This wasn't an iPhone.
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2
The button, you can't push the button, the main
button.
Okay.
Oh, boy.
fall of '15.
Okay.
No.
-- Best Buy or a repair store?
No, you can't.
10
Why not?
11
Why?
12
I mean, if I had a problem with my iPhone and
14
I'm not going to pay to get it fixed.
15
Okay.
16
I bought a replacement.
17
Okay.
13
18
19
20
21
22
23
When did you discover that?

Let me think.
That was probably in the
Did you take it to --
No.
No.
I --
Why is that -- I'm not -- I don't
understand why that's part of the insurance claim.

A
Because it was in my house and the house is
covered by the insurance.

Q
I mean, how do you know it just didn't -- I mean,
things wear down over time.

A
I mean --
I'm telling you the truth.
If you don't believe
24
me, that's fine, but don't -- don't harass me with
25
questions.
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2
I'm here to ask you questions, sir.
trying to get an understanding as to -- things wear out.
I told you what happened.
Okay.
They broke it.
They broke it?
Yes, someone broke it.
All right.
It's funny.
10
One day the button works, and the
next day it doesn't.
11
Okay.
12
Right.
13
How old --
14
I've had probably three stolen.
15
Oh, it was stolen?
16
Oh, yeah.
17
Okay.
18
I don't remember.
19
20
21
I'm just
or four stolen.
Q
Okay.
Bluetooth headset for phone.
When?
In the past year.
I had three
I had to buy replacements.

Well, you list $60, and that sounds about
what the value of a new Bluetooth would be.
22
Oh, no.
23
Oh, okay.
24
Does it say three beside there?
25
No, it doesn't.
No.
That's for three of them, I think.
Well, no.
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but they're consecutive.
not a quantity.
I'm assuming that's not -- that's
Oh, didn't the quantity print out?
that.
Oh, the quantity didn't print out.
be three.
No.
Let me see
That should
All right.
I paid like 20 bucks apiece for them up at Radio
Shack.
Do you have the receipts for them?
10
I'm not going to dig up all these receipts.
11
really not.
12
is harassment.
13
14
Maybe I didn't put the quantity in.
I'm a busy guy.
I'm
I can't be -- you know, this
Does that mean you don't have them, or you're
just not going to -- you're not going to dig them up?
15
I'm not going to take the time to dig them up.
16
Okay.
17
I have all my receipts.
18
back to '80, '82.
19
Okay.
20
I document everything.
21
I have my tax returns
I'm an expert in
information technologies.
22
Where in your house --
23
I have worked all over the world for the record.
24
I did defense contracts, optical publishing.
25
of -- I was one of four companies in the late '80's, early
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'90's that could manufacture CD-ROMs, me alone.
business.
were stolen?
Where did I have them?
Yeah.
It depends where I was.
Where were they stolen from?
Most likely either the bedroom which is in the
10
Okay.
I know my
basement.
Where in your house were the headsets that
In the bedroom, living room?
Yeah, the bedroom.
What do you mean?
Yeah.
11
Was there any sign of unlawful entry?
12
No, never is.
13
about that.
14
15
You'll read, the experts tell you
And I assume there was no report to the police
about these --
16
I can't report to the police anymore.
17
Okay.
Is it fair to say that with regard to any
18
of these items you haven't -- so I don't have to keep
19
asking you this, that you didn't report it to the police?
20
21
They get emails from me, but, no, there's no
official report.
22
All right.
23
The last official report I made was two thousand
24
-- was July 8th of 2015.
25
to report the computer hacking, and that night at 11:30
I went down to the police again
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they signed the mental health warrant on me --
Okay.
-- and gave me a bogus incident report.
All right.
The Bluetooth headsets, the three of
them were taken after that?
After what?
After the 302 petition.
Let me think.
Okay.
10
11
12
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't have any idea who it was who
took them?
A
If I did I'd give you a name and report that to
everybody.
13
Okay.
14
Yes.
The hammer drill.

They broke it.
I'd say March 9th I started
15
my -- I'd say in March, 2016.
I'm putting on a new
16
screened-in porch on my back and a six-foot fence.
17
it worked.
18
buy a replacement.
The next day it didn't.
One day
So I had to go out and
19
How old was it?
20
I bought that one -- that's about the second or
21
third one they broke.
That one I bought on eBay in
22
probably -- when did I buy that one?
23
Do you still have it?
24
No.
25
Did you throw it out?
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Maybe '08.
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Yeah.
All right.
You didn't take it someplace to see
if it could be fixed?
No.
What did you buy it for, how much?
How much?
How much.
Oh, boy.
9
10
That was a DeWalt.
I don't know -- $300 I think, 280.
New they're like --
I probably paid -- I
think I paid 60 something for that, somewhere around $60 --
11
Okay.
12
-- on eBay.
13
And then did you buy a replacement for it?
14
Yeah.
15
What did that cost?
16
The replacement I bought at -- oh, the tool store
17
out there next to the off-track betting.
18
of it?
19
Harbor Freight?
20
Harbor Freight.
21
drill.
22
Okay.
24
What is it?
25
Maybe 100?
23
What's the name
Harbor Tools.
I paid I think 60 for the hammer
But you have -- you have 100 listed here,
so --
Maybe it was 100.
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Maybe.
Okay.
Reciprocating saw.
Yeah.
What they did was they rigged it so that
the blade doesn't stay in.
You can't use it.
It just --
When you turn it on it comes out?
Well, when you use it, it comes out when you're
sawing.
Okay.
You can't -- you can't tighten it.
10
work, but it stopped.
11
I bought that at Lowe's.
12
13
It used to
That replacement I bought -- I think
The one, the one that's broken or the one, the
replacement one?
14
The replacement.
15
Where did you buy the one that's broken?
16
Harbor Tools.
17
Harbor Freight?
18
Harbor Freight.
19
Okay.
20
23
24
25
When did
you buy that?
21
22
Just so we're on the same page.
A
'06.
'05.
Q
Oh, boy.
Let's see.
I might have bought that in
'05, '06.
Okay.
Did you use that on a regular basis or
just once in a while?

A
What do you mean on a regular basis?
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Did you use it once a week?
No.
Okay.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Did you use it --
No.
Reciprocating saws I probably used less
than any other tool actually.
I mean, a couple times?
But if I have a project I might use it a lot in a
8
9
10
11
12
two-week span.
Q
Yeah.
I mean, some people are do-it-yourself,
fixer-upper kind of people, and some people -A
Well, I used to have a contracting business in
college.
13
All right.
14
Stan Caterbone Painting and Renovating.
15
But you bought this in '05, '06?
16
assuming --
17
Right.
18
-- you were out of college by then.
19
I'm just saying I have experience.
20
21
22
I mean, I'm
I'm not just
a do-it-yourselfer.
Q
Well, no.
My -- some people do a lot of work
with their tools, and other people --
23
Oh, I do.
24
-- don't.
25
I do.
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2
Okay.
And that's what I'm getting at.
I'm
trying to understand.
I do.
I don't.
Okay.
So I could have something for ten years, and it
doesn't get any use at all.
No.
I understand.
And some people have it --
10
I use my tools.
11
-- for ten years, and they use it every day.
12
I use my stuff.
13
Fair enough.
And you got a replacement at
14
Lowe's, and you have $100 here.
15
paid for the replacement?
Is that about what you
16
Uh-huh.
17
Do you have the receipt?
18
Yeah.
19
Okay.
20
Is it fair to say you're not going to dig
that up?
21
No.
22
Okay.
23
I didn't have to for the other claims.
24
25
No.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not
going to do it for your company.

Q
Okay.
IPhone 5C, was that stolen?
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Broken.
When?
In fact, I got scammed on that, the 5C, the end
of last year.
Here's what happened.
They broke it, right,
so I put it on eBay to sell it so someone could reprogram
it, the software.
broken on it because it functioned, everything, but the
software was not functioning.
I assumed the software was what was
Okay.
So I put it on eBay.
Right.
Somebody bought it.
10
They hacked my PayPal account.
So someone said that they
11
paid me with electronic funds.
Well, PayPal doesn't use
12
electronic funds.
13
the money.
PayPal you use your account to transfer
Right.
14
Like a Visa account?
15
What's that?
16
Or a PayPal account.
17
PayPal account.
18
Okay.
19
So what they did was they filed a claim saying
Oh, a PayPal account.
20
that I never sent them the iPhone.
I wasn't going to send
21
it until I got -- until I verified the money was in my
22
account.
23
Uh-huh.
24
But because my PayPal account was hacked, I
25
couldn't access my PayPal account.
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Right.
Now, in my
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PayPal account I had a cash balance of like $400.
went and awarded them judgment.
judgment.
So eBay
In eBay terms I'm saying
Uh-huh.
So they took the $150 or whatever selling price
out of my account, so I'm out the phone, plus the $150.
Okay.
So they scammed me.
All my accounts are hacked.
I file -- in all the courts I have electronic filing
10
privileges, Third Circuit, U.S. District Court, all the
11
state courts, the local courts.
12
which is the system where you file electronically --
Right.
My PACER account
13
I'm familiar with PACER.
14
-- I've been hacked since, oh, boy, November.
15
So
I got to run down to Philly every two weeks --
16
Okay.
17
-- to get my dockets, just to get dockets for all
18
19
20
my cases.
Q
Let me go back.
I'm -- you lost me on the phone
at some point.
21
Okay.
22
You had the phone.
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phone?
24
Right, after it was unusable to me.
25
After it was unusable.
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You were looking to sell the
Why was it unusable to
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you?
Because there was a software problem?
It just didn't -- it wouldn't function for me.
Okay.
So I replaced it.
of Apple.
How old was the phone?

I went to Samsung.
I got out
I had too many problems with Apple.
How old --
Apple wouldn't fix it.
Apple wouldn't do this.
They were harassing me on every -- I called customer
service about it, and they had harassed me, and I had to
10
report that, so I said the hell with it.
11
Radio Shack, and under Sprint's program they would pay your
12
old phone off if you're on a contract.
13
have a Samsung.
14
15
So I went to
So I went and now I
How old was the phone at the time that you tried
to sell it through eBay?
16
A couple months old.
17
Okay.
18
Five months old I think.
19
Was it under any warranty program with Apple
I had a warranty through Verizon, but I had to
20
21
22
or --
cut them out.
23
I don't follow you.
24
I had to get off of Verizon.
25
Okay.
So the phone wasn't fixable; you tried to
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sell it; you got scammed on the PayPal?
Yeah.
And eBay basically ruled against you?
Yeah, I can't even access eBay.
I can't buy
anything on eBay anymore.
Okay.
I'm hacked, every -- all my online accounts.
Okay.
Banking, bank accounts, PayPal, eBay, PACER.
10
filed complaints with the FBI, the Pennsylvania Attorney
11
General's Office, everybody.
12
When did this happen?
13
What happen?
14
The phone, the attempt to sell the phone.
15
I think January.
16
Of this year?
17
Yes, '16.
18
Did you file a complaint with the Attorney
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I think January.
General's Office or --
20
Oh.
21
About this situation?
22
I file complaints with them all the time.
23
Okay.
24
Like I say, I am the amicus for Kathleen Kane in
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Superior Court Case 1164 EDA 2016.
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May 3rd, so I'm a party to the case now.
everything to me.
They have to file
Okay.
Service me everything.
And I understand, you know, that process to some
extent, but what does it have to do with this?
it has relevance, I'm all ears.
8
9
A
the NSA.
Okay.
I mean, if
I just don't know.
In 1998 I had a meeting with an agent from
I was complaining again about things, and he told
10
me, he said, listen, Stan.
11
it's the good old boys.
He goes it's not us.
He said
This was in 1998.
12
Now, when Kathleen Kane started in the press,
13
she's been saying that the good old boys are behind her
14
problems.
15
stated for the record what the NSA agent told me about the
16
good old boys and how it relates to what she was saying.
So November 12th I wrote her a letter, and I
17
Uh-huh.
Okay.
18
She replied back the next day, said she'd keep my
19
information on file.
Ever since then from November till a
20
month or so ago I'd go up there every two weeks and deliver
21
documents to Strawberry Square to the Attorney General's
22
Office.
23
Okay.
24
I finally thought, you know what, I'll put screen
25
Tell me about the screen door locks.
door locks on on my screen doors.
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Uh-huh.
It didn't stop anything.
They'd work.
Are they still there?
I had to replace one or two of them.
Did you do that yourself?
Oh, yeah.
Do they work now?
Yes.
They'd break them.
They wouldn't work.
Well, supposedly.
I mean, one time they
10
didn't work.
11
Okay.
12
Lowe's.
13
For $30 it looks like?
14
Yeah.
15
Yes.
16
That was within two months ago.
17
Okay.
18
19
Where did you buy the replacements?
Is that what's on there?

Okay.
When did you replace them?
Sleepy's foam mattress.
I'm sorry.
Foam
memory mattress.
A
Here's the situation with that.
On the record,
20
I've been suffering from back pain since '87.
21
say '98 I've been going to the doctors on and off for it.
22
Last year I got a handicapped placard, and in the process I
23
used my medical reports regarding my back.
24
handicapped placard, and I got a long-term placard which
25
means it doesn't renew until 2020.
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Since I'd
So I got a
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Okay.
Now, what they were doing is that aside from the
electromagnetic weapons, people were using some type of
device to put under my seats and under my bed that causes
excruciating pain.
6
7
Now, since '05 I was going up and getting laser

treatments to Leola Family Health Clinic in Leola.
Did you say Leola?
Yes.
10
Thank you.
11
Now, the doctor there, the chiropractor, he's the
12
one that signed off on my handicapped placard.
13
Okay.
14
He verified that if they -- they could be using
15
magnets.
It can throw my back out to cause pain.
16
that's what the Sleepy's is for.
17
All right.
18
Now, whether -- I mean, well, go ahead.
19
Have you actually found magnets?
21
No.
22
All right.
24
25
You ask
the questions.
20
23
So
You're not sure where they are within
the mattress?
A
I'm not sure.
No, I'm not.
No.
I'm not sure
how they do it, but they used to do it to my bicycle seat,
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my car seat, my bed.
Other nights...
3
4
Now, some nights I'm fine in the bed.
And you know when they're doing it based upon
when you have the pain?
Yes, it's the only way I know.
Okay.
What's the nature of your back problem?
Herniated disc, do you have a degenerative condition?
No.
Do you have -- I mean, you're going to a
10
11
12
chiropractor.
A
Is he -- is he treating you for anything?
I was getting laser treatments, but it stopped
being effective.
13
Okay.
14
So now the only treatment really is I'm applying
15
to Medicare.
16
house.
17
medicines.
18
19
I'm trying to get a whirlpool bath put in my
I'm trying to get them to pay for that.
Okay.
And pain
And what's the diagnosis other than -- I
mean, are you -- something other than back pain I presume?
20
I have that in here, I believe.
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I'm going to get myself some more coffee over
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there.
23
Water would be good.
24
I assume there's water in that pitcher.
25
Would you like any coffee or water?
If not,
I can go out and get you some.
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Let me see what document I have right here.
MR. REESER:
(Off the record.)
THE WITNESS:
with me.
BY MR. REESER:
And off the record.
No, I didn't bring my medical file
Okay.
If I know what?
If you know the answer to that question.
10
What was the question?
11
The question was what's the medical diagnosis?
12
Oh, it's a medical term.
13
That's fine.
14
15
That's all right.
I mean, if you know.
I can't.
If you don't -- if you don't know,
that's fine as well.

A
I went to -- okay.
January 29th medical -- Med
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Express Urgent Care issued me pain medications.
17
they issued me pain medications, all for back.
18
they issued me pain medications.
19
March 23rd
May 10th
In 2009 I was receiving pain medicines from
20
Dr. Sullivan at the Abbeyville Family Clinic on Abbeyille
21
Road for back pain, severe.
22
a walker some nights.
It gets severe.
I have to use
23
I think you said you went to Leola Chiropractic?
24
Yeah, Leola Family Health Clinic.
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Family Health
Clinic.
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2
3
4
That's not a chiropractor.
That's a medical
doctor?
A
No, he's inside there.
It's a -- it's a facility
where they have different doctors.
Okay.
Dr. Newhart, Paul Newhart, he was giving me laser
treatments.
guess it was about laser therapy.
the NFL.
10
I saw an article in the paper in '05 or '06 I

Now they're using it for
But it was effective for a while, and then it
stopped being effective a couple years ago, so I stopped.
11
When did you buy the bed?
12
I bought the bed three months ago.
13
Where did you buy it at?
14
Sleepy's, Manor Shopping Center.
15
Okay.
16
Now, I put the bed on there.
You understand why
17
I put it on there?
Now, if you went and saw the bed, you
18
wouldn't think anything's wrong with it, but I'm putting it
19
on to document just what I'm telling you.
20
Okay.
You still use the mattress?
21
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, because it's a memory foam with
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a -- it vibrates.
It moves in three different positions,
23
the head, the mid-section, and for my back it's great.
24
Queen size, king size?
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Full.
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Is that smaller than queen?
Yeah, not by much though.
So if you're not having the back issues --
Perfectly normal.
Then it's perfectly -- okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
10
Okay.
11
Oh, which ones?
12
How many do you have?
13
How many did I have?
14
And $2,300, is that what you paid for
it?
Laptop computers.
How many are broken?
many's listed on there?
15
There's no number there.
16
Let me see.
17
How
I don't know why those quantities
aren't in there.
18
Yeah.
19
Let me see.
The policy goes -- the policy goes
20
back to '11, so it would have been one, two -- that would
21
be right.
Two.
22
Okay.
23
Two laptops, 400 bucks apiece.
24
right.
25
That's about
What kind of laptops, what brand?
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Oh, boy.
HP.
What happened to them?
They just sabotage them.
drives and everything.
usually.
6
7
What was the last one?
Compaq.
They fry the hard
They just fry them.
That's what this document is.
Viruses
It's all in there.
So they've crashed as a result of the viruses?
The hard drives have crashed?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Have you looked into replacing the hard drives?
10
It is -- cost, it's not effective.
It's not --
11
it's not worth it because by the time you pay to do that,
12
it's already outdated technology, so you're going to have
13
an old processor.
14
15
sometimes --
16
You know, it just doesn't --
No, I -- I understand.
The economics of it
So what happened, so in August of last year, the
17
last laptop I replaced, I got a one-year service for Geek
18
Squad.
19
The laptops --
20
Fixing -- fixing the one I have.
21
Okay.
22
I've been in there about 20 times.
These aren't -- the ones that the Geek
Squad's fixing, they're not the HP or the Compaq?
23
Oh, no.
24
Okay.
25
That's a Lenovo I have now.
No.
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The HP and the Compaq, how old were those?
Within a year, a year old.
When did they crash?
Well, the last one crashed August of 2015.
one before that was probably -- let's see.
Maybe 2012.
2013.
8
9
Compaq, '15.
Probably two thousand and -- maybe '13.
or to Allstate about the one that crashed in '13 before -A
No.
11
-- last month?
12
No.
13
it in bulk.
It's too time consuming.
14
litigation.
I'm too busy trying to defend myself and
15
everything else, too busy documenting things I have to
16
document.
18
I do -- no, this is the way I do this.
Okay.
I do
I'm too busy with
The next item you have is cost to repair
computers from hacking.
19
Right.
20
Which -- are you talking about the same
21
Maybe
Did you make any report to your insurance agent
10
17
The
computers?
22
Yeah.
23
The --
24
I went to -- I went to other services after Geek
25
Squad was not performing their service effectively.
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Let me hold you up for a second now.
We talked
about the HP and the Compaq, and then you said you bought a
warranty in August to have a different computer serviced
by --
A Lenovo.
-- the Geek Squad?
Right.
Denovo?
Lenovo.
10
Lenovo?
11
L-e-n-o-v-o.
12
Is that the one that you're making the claim to
13
14
have repaired?
A
I had that serviced, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I had it
15
done by the people on Harrisburg Pike there.
16
moved, right there at The Grille there, near the campus.
17
forget what his name is.
18
Near F&M you mean?
19
Yeah, The Campus Grille.
He had a computer
20
repair shop in there, but he just moved.
21
out to Liberty Place or somewhere.
22
And you paid $400 for that?
23
No.
24
Yeah.
25
Let me see.
He just
I think he moved
That was -- to the repair?
Cost to repair computers from
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hacking.
I guess that's cumulative over the past four
years.
Okay.
That's probably what that is.

Here's what happened.
A Plus on Columbia
Avenue.
Last year I made a formal
complaint to the Lancaster DA's Office.
the detective.
goes you're going to have to do something for me.
going to have to go get a private firm, analyze your
Okay.
I met with
He goes, well, Stan, he goes, listen.
10
computer and get a report.
11
seen the detective since.
He
You're
I did that, paid for it, never
12
Okay.
13
He never returned my calls.
He never -- I guess
14
I called him out on it.
I guess he thought, you know, I
15
wasn't going to do it, or it was going to come back saying
16
there wasn't a virus in it or it wasn't hacked, but he was
17
wrong, so he flew the coop from me.
18
So the $400 is cumulative --
19
Yes.
20
-- for three different computers?
21
Three or four.
22
And this would be over how many years span?
23
Three or four years.
24
Okay.
25
Do you have the bills for any of those
repairs?
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A lot of them are in here.
I'm sorry?
A lot of them are in here.
Okay.
No.
Why not?
You can see them right now.
Oh, sure.
I'm getting tired.
10
I had a long week, so let's
wrap this up.
11
12
items.
13
14
Could you send me copies of them?
I'm about two-thirds of the way through these
Let's make it another day then for the rest.
I've had enough.
15
Okay.
16
We can reschedule another time.
17
And I take it
I'll get a copy of the transcript?
18
I'll get you a copy of the transcript.
19
Great.
20
I would prefer to keep going.
21
No, I can't.
22
23
24
25
You don't mind breaking, do you?
I'm up since 4 o'clock most
mornings, so this is enough for me.

Q
Can you show me where those receipts are that
we've just talked about?

A
Let me see.
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Save you and me some time.
Okay.
In the folders that you're looking at right now,
That's $160.
are those copies of your receipts?
5
6
Here's one.
These are the copies of the reports from the
technical people.
Okay.
The Geek Squad was a one-time fee.
A Plus.
Okay.
Here's A Plus.
10
receipt.
11
Avenue.
12
service, the Geek Squad.
13
computer.
14
them where I got them.
Let's see.
Here's
Now I got to find the
This is what they wrote.

Okay.
Okay.
That's on Columbia
Here's my receipt for the tech
Here's my receipt for the actual
Can I have those receipts back?
I want to put
I don't want the stuff mixed up.
15
How can I get a copy of those receipts?
16
Just take them right now and get them.
17
Ask them to copy them, you'd be all right with
19
Sure.
20
Do you have other receipts for any of these other
21
items?
22
I have 30 years of receipts.
23
Here, I mean here in this building.
18
24
25
that?
Sure.
Do you have
them with you?

A
I don't know.
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Could you -- there was another one in there that
I was looking at.
piece of paper.
It was on an 11 -- 8 and a half by 11
Here, that was $160.
Let's see.
Let me go
through there quick and see if I can get the receipts.
Here's a receipt.
they changed my SIM card thinking that would stop the
hacking, but it didn't.
for -- that's just an in-take.
This is a Verizon.
This is a receipt, but it's not

These are the IC3 reports.
10
Let's see if the receipt's in here.
11
they're all the receipts I have.
12
Okay.
13
I believe.
14
What Verizon did was
Geek Squad.
No,
I mean, as far as the computers are
concerned.
15
And then there's no receipts in these documents?
16
Receipts for what?
17
Any of these items that we're talking about.
18
I don't know.
19
Okay.
20
I don't know.
21
I'll make copies of these.
22
I did not peruse all these files for receipts.
23
Would you like -- would you like me to make a
24
25
copy of that for your records?

A
No, I gave it to you.
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Okay.
I'm going to have to trust you.
changing documents on me all the time.
(Off the record.)
I got people
BY MR. REESER:
Okay.
Do you want to take these and copy them and bring
them back?
Or I can mail them back to you.
Sure.
10
Well, aren't we going to continue this?
11
Actually what I have to do is I have to report
12
back to Allstate, and they let me know if they want me to
13
continue it or not.
14
15
A
fine.
Okay.
You can take them then.
Mail them back.
16
Okay.
17
You're going to get educated.
18
19
20
Yeah, that'd be
And you will not -You're going to be
a changed man, trust me.

Q
You will not do the continuation, assuming we
have one, in the courthouse?
21
Why?
22
Because it's free.
23
Why don't we do it at Allstate's office, Allen's
24
25
office?
Q
Okay.
I'll see if I can arrange that.
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Or we can do it at my house.
1250 Freemont Street.
It's nice.
It's nice there.
You can come to

It's fixed up.
I have no problem with that.
All right.
I had enough of that courthouse.
Okay.
How long did this last?
Roughly an hour.
So it's about 20 after 10:00 roughly.
I don't know what time we
started.
10
That's pretty good.
11
So you want to adjourn for the day?
12
Yeah.
13
MR. REESER:
14
(The examination under oath was adjourned at
15
Okay.
Very good.
10:19 a.m.)
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COUNTY OF DAUPHIN
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COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA
I, Diane F. Foltz, a Notary Public, authorized to
administer oaths within and for the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania, do hereby certify that the foregoing is the
testimony of Stanley J. Caterbone.
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statement, the witness was duly sworn; that the questions
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time and place specified in the caption sheet hereof.
I further certify I am not a relative or employee or
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employee of such attorney or counsel, or financially
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this 13th day of June, 2016.
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Stan J. Caterbone
Freedom From Covert Harassment & Surveillance,

1250 Fremont Street

Lancaster, PA 17603
Richmond City Council

May 19, 2015
Richmond City Council Public Hearing of May 19, 2015
Passing a City Resolution 5-2 to Ban Spaced-Based

Weapons in Support of the Many Targeted Individuals
Suffering Symptoms of the City
Transcribed for Advanced Media Group, Originally published:
May 19, 2015
Richmond, California City Council hears from victims and advocates and votes in support of the Space
Preservation Act and the Space Preservation Treaty to permanently ban spaced-based weapons.
Jovanka Beckles Council Member Introduced This Resolution
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RICHMOND CITY COUNCIL BANS SPACED-BASED WEAPONS

COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 19, 2015
Mayor:
One is to adopt a resolution in support of the Space Preservation Act and the Spaced-Based
Treaty to permanently ban Space-based weapons. And we have 15 speakers for this item.
Council Member Beckles, would you like to introduce this?
Beckles : I would. You know I think what I would like to do is just kind of rehash the statement of this
issue for those that dont have the agenda in front of them. The city of Richmond is a welcoming and safe
area for all of our residents. We have led the way in so many initiatives that protect and provide the rights
for all of our residents to feel safe. And so its imperative that Richmond adopt this resolution in order to
stand in solidarity with residents who claim to be under assault with spaced-based weapons that should be
outlawed by the Space Preservation Act.
Now, the thing about this is that were not trying something new here. This is in support of what is already
there at the federal level. So we say as a council we support this treaty thats already in affect and we also
support our residents who are feeling attacked by certain kinds of weapons. And so the purpose of this
resolution is to show support for our residents that identify themselves as targeted individuals by
supporting the Space Preservation Act thats been passed by Congress and the Space Preservation Treaty
to permanently ban spaced-based weapons.
Now, many targeted individuals believe they have been personally attacked by weaponry that should be
outlawed by the Space Preservation Act. Some years ago one of the residents who is going to talk now, I
met with her. I met with many of them, to talk about this issue. Ive also spoken with our police
department. The representative from the department was Captain Gagan to figure out how law
enforcement can support these individuals, first of all, by at least listening and not assuming, and actually
just taking reports of incidences that are reported. And the police department was open to that, and is
open to that, and are willing to work with our residents in helping them to feel safe. Because its important
that we all feel safe living in our city. And in our city we have put forth our best effort to listen and respect
the voices and wisdom and experiences of our residents.
And so I dont intend to ignore it and Im hoping that my colleagues on this (unclear word) wont ignore,
but support those who suspect they have been exposed to these types of inhumane attacks with the intent
to cause them great emotional and bodily harm. And Im encouraged by these residents, these citizens of
Richmond, who stood up to protect these other residents here. Id like to encourage other officials at the
local, state and national level to explore methods to expand support to all residents. And as many as
you can see those of us with an agenda in front of us, and those who dont have an agenda in front of
you, who may be watching, or the livecast on the web, is that there is no financial impact to this. This is
not going to cost anything and its not going to hurt anyone to pass it. But it certainly would continue to
cause emotional distress to those who are being targeted if we dont pass this. And I urge you to support
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all of our residents in the city.
Mayor: Do we have questions from council members? Okay, Vice Mayor.
V Mayor: Just real quickly. You mentioned that this was passed by Congress. Can you tell me when that
happened because Im trying to look it up now and I thought that was just introduced in 2001 and never
was
Beckles: Actually, Ms Anderson can probably answer that question. When was it passed at the federal
level, Ms Anderson?
Anderson:
9/10/2002. Space Preservation Act, former Congressman Dennis Cosenich had introduced
this bill.
Vice Mayor: But was that
Mayor:
Were sort of getting out of our process here. I think that (word unclear) do you have other
questions?
Vice Mayor: Well, Im looking at the sheet that youre looking at. It looks like thats when the Burkley
City Council passed a resolution, not when Congress passed the law. Im looking on line at the House
website. And I know that theres, I understand that theres been multiple versions of this so I dont know if
its been passed or not. But from what it looks like here, it doesnt look like that version was passed by
Congress, so I dont know if it was. But I understand the Burkley City Council passed it on 9/10 of 2002.
Mayor: Other questions from the council?
Mayor:
So I had a couple of questions. Im looking at the resolution and it talks about the Space
Preservation Act. Can you tell me what act that was? Theres never been a Space Preservation Act passed,
right?
Beckles: It wasnt passed. It was brought forward by the Representative, the Congressman at the time.
Because there were some, you know how it goes in Washington, theres just a lot of power play. So it
never gotbut it did get passed in 2002 in Burkley. So were making ours similar to the one that was
passed in Burkley.
Mayor: Well it doesnt say anything about Burkley here. All it says is the Space Preservation Act. Are you
talking about the resolution Burkley passed or are you talking about one of the two resolutions that
Representative Cosenich introduced in 2001 and 2002?
Beckles: Well because that one didnt pass were just making reference that it was brought forward by
Dennis Cosenich, and of course politics being the way they are, it did not pass. So this is, Im making
reference to and using the Burkley model as an example of ours.
Mayor: Which one of the Cosenich resolutions did the Burkley model refer to?
Anderson: HR3616. House Resolution 3616.
Mayor: I didnt hear you, what?
Anderson: House Resolution 3616.
Mayor: 3615.
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Anderson: 3616. 1. 6.
Mayor: The research I did on this, that resolution was substantially different than HR2977.
Anderson: Yes sir.
Mayor:
And significantly it omitted any references to chem trails, particle beams, electromagnetic
radiation, plasmas, extremely low frequency or ultra-high frequency energy radiation and mind control
technology. So, the question I have is, it seemed to me, it was your intent to include all these in it, right?
So if you go with HR3616 and we approve this, it will not include any of these things I named. Was that
your intent?
Beckles: That was not my intent. My intent, and working with staff, of course, it helped put this together,
because we know that we get help with our staff. The intention was to include all of the things that people
are feeling, yeah, that people are feeling the pressures of and feeling the attacks of, and so I think thatI
dont know how much of this issue that Burkley had in theirs. But I think that to include these, and this is
the resolution saying we support this treaty, this act. Then Id like to have it in there. Because again, to
me its important that we defend, that we support and that we protect our residents. And so if these are
the things that residents are saying theyre feeling, then it should be in there.
Mayor: Well, all Burkley did, and Im looking at the Burkley resolution, and it just says, It is the will of
the council and the city of Burkley that the US Senate and House of Representatives enact, and the US
President sign and enforce the Space Preservation Act. But Im confused because there were actually two
Space Preservation Acts introduced and I think if were going to do this right, we need to define which one
were going to support. Because theyre different.
Beckles: Youre absolutely right. And I want the best one to move forward as well, and Im sure that the
residents want the best one and so.
Mayor: Which one is the best one?
Anderson: HR2977.
Mayor: So that would be HR2977.
Anderson: Yes.
Beckles: Which is the one that includes
Anderson: Everything.
Mayor: Ok, so, with that in mind, I dont have any more council people... oh I do too. Council Member
yeah, Ive got a bunch; Council Member Martinez and Council Member McLaughlin.
Martinez: Yes, I wanted to change the language to say that we endorse the intent of the act since the
act is not actually in place.
Mayor: The intent of which act?
Martinez: The intent of the second act.
Mayor: The second one is HR3616.
Beckles: Are you talking about HR2977 which includes all that, right? Which includes the chem trails. Is
that right?
Mayor: Thats my understanding of it.
Beckles: Is that right, Council Member Martinez?
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Martinez: Is that the revision? Right.
Mayor: Council Member McLaughlin.
McLaughlin: Actually I did some research on this too. Apparently Representative Cosenich didnt read
fully the first resolution that was brought forward in his name. He brought it forward based on some
recommendations. And when he realized it was drawn out to the level that it was, he pulled it. And he
brought forward the second one, which is 3616, which I think is more general.
Many of us remember, just to share some input going back, many of us remember in the 80s, Ronal
Reagan brought forth the Strategic Defense Initiative, which was later dubbed Star Wars, you know, thats
where this all came from. Basically, it was to put weapons technology into space as a global shield, as a
supposed defense against China and the Soviet Union. It was later seen as infeasible. And many others..
many people saw this as the idea to put weapons in spacewas insane. And I happen to think it was a
crazy idea, as did the population at large.
Then the Clinton administration in 1993 morphed it into the Ballistic Missile Defense. Later in 2002, which
is currently now the Missile Defense Agency. But also, along the way, in 2002 Dennis Cosenich introduced
this bill, and its the second one that he fully introduced, 3616, which basically called for a ban on spacedbased weapons. And then it was, I think it was just introduced, a co-sponsor was Representative Barbara
Lee, and at a certain point, this Space Preservation Act that was just introduced was brought to the UN
and the Space Preservation Treaty was linked with it. And actually the UN had previously addressedset
upestablished, I guess the basis for this treaty by saying they wanted a permanent ban on spaced-based
weapons that passed in the United Nations that passed 156 to 0. Then Burkley supported the 2002 the
Space Preservation Act and I believe also, the Space Preservation Treaty.
So thats what Council Member Beckles is referring to in terms of the resolution that shes brought
forward. I dont know how anyone can not support not having weapons in space when it has been
supported by the UN and also been supported, clearly stated by many experts that its infeasible this
original Ronald Reagan plan to dub this Star Wars.
I think the resolution is fine as it is. It basically says that the residentsthe well-being of our residents is
of importance to us and it also, it doesnt state pro or con in terms of what individuals are saying. But it
just refers to the fact that our residents deserve to be protected. And in general it states that spacedbased weapons are something that the city of Richmond does not support. (applause)
Mayor: Okay, so would you call the public speakers?
Anderson:
Speakers are Amy Anderson, Jesse Beltrand, Dr. John Hall, Dr. Edward Spencer, Ben
Colonson, Lisa Becker and Derrick Robinson.

Beckles: Amy Lee Anderson.
Anderson:
Yes
Mayor: Could you come over here to the podium to speak, please?
Anderson: Good evening Council Members, Council Beckles. I really want to thank you for not deviating
your plan because I went on your Facebook and I saw why you came in office and you never deviated your
plan. You said that you wanted to first put the community first and from you doing that, I want to thank
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you first. And secondly, as a psychologist, a child psychologist, I want to thank you for putting up with
some of those pains I have suffered along this way. But I am here in happiness, in a moment of greatness.
I have a perfect city. Nowhere in the United States, no targeted individual can get this kind of support
that I have gotten. We just needed just one person, one city. And because of that, you all are our heroes,
and we want to thank you. And I can go on and say much much.
But we are dying within because the technology is so sophisticated. Its hard for someone who has no
experience to fathom it. It is so sophisticated. So what we are saying to you all is please let us help you
understand enough, as someone outside looking in to our lives. Because were in pain, we are tortured
and we are humiliated every day in our lives because our lives have taken on a path. We dont even know
how or why we have this type of people on this planet who would harm in this type of way. And I just want
to thank you all. And you, Mayor, for you being in the cityworking in the service. Being in the service. For
others to do this, I know that should sadden you. (applause)
Jesse Beltrand: Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor and City Council Members. My name is Jesse Beltrand.
Im the president of the International Center Against the Use of Covert Technologies. Our organization was
formed in 2010 in Sacramento California for the purpose to bring awareness to the general public and
legal systems around the world about serious human rights abuses with regards to the utilization of
remote influencing technologies. My colleagues and co-speakers today, hopefully well get John Hall, who
was the author of Guinea Pigs, Technologies of Control, which have been sent to each of you and signed. I
also have Dr. Edward Spencer, whos a Neurologist from the Yale School of Medicine and Ben Colonson who
is a PHD in psychology, and therapist, and co-author of a book about PTSD. I myself am a retired
Sacramento City Fire Paramedic and a recent graduate of HMI and do provide therapy to victims.
In 2010 I met Dr. Hall and when meeting him I discovered this phenomenon and asked, Why isnt
anything being done about this? He said its because of the symptomology. If everyone went to traditional
medicine and complained about what they were experiencing, they would be railroaded into the mental
health institutions. The fact of the matter is, this is affecting all demographics of society: the poor, the
rich, the elite. I see victims on a monthly basis and hear from hundreds of people every week. I currently
have over 23,000 correspondences from victims not only within, here in the United States, but around the
world.
What we have discovered is that there are hot pockets within the United States where there are victims
that are being exposed to these types of technologies. And as our speakers continue to speak they will
explain to you how that has developed. Currently the hot spots are New York, Florida, Chicago, Texas, and
California. Unfortunately, in California, the East Bay has the highest amount of victims that we have
collected in our database, within our study within our organization. This is why we are currently here
today.
Beckles: Your time has expired Sir.
Beltrand: Okay, thank you.
Beckles: Dr. John Hall. Dr. John Hall.
Beltrand: Dr. Hall is unable to be reached so were going to have Dr. Spencer here.
Spencer:
Mr. Mayor, City Council, thank you. Thank you for attacking this very difficult problem. And
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there are a lot of people around the world, especially in Europe, where I attended a counsel just recently,
in November, who thank you. Im a retired neurologist. I attended Stanford University, Yale University and
a residency at the University of California in San Francisco.
Ive studied this sort of problem for a period of time. And its been a mystery to me why medicine in
general does not approach this and study the multitude of documents that are out there. But this is the
case. And I wont answer this for you, because this is an ongoing study, ongoing problem. This is really
intense technology. Essentially what might be described as EEG heterodyning. The entire electrical activity
of the human brain can be captured in this super computer and certainly processed and then put back into
someone else. Imits science fiction. But unfortunately, its not science fiction. So naturally this is
difficult. So the technology is incredible. But basically this is a moral problem. Ethical problem. This is a
violation of the golden rule, any ethics, anything thats decent. And this is a major thing to consider. Its
also a violation of our constitutional rights. So thats an important thing to keep in mind.
To bring it back down to Richmond, I know there are a lot of targeted individuals here, and the police
encounter them. And cant understand this and help them. The medical community is hobbled by not
having a differential diagnosis. And many of the psychiatric disorders, they should say rule out
psychotronic disorders, but they dont. So they cant face it at all. Thank you.
Beckles: Ben Colonson
Colonson: I thank you all. Two minutes. Okay, lets go. Thank you all for your endurance. I see you listen
to a lot of humans. Im gonna talk really fast with two minutes to go. I am a psychologist. I have
evaluated many targeted individuals who have previously been diagnosed as delusional and psychotic and
my job is to deconstruct those diagnoses. Because of the methods of my colleagues that can actually
detect advanced nano-technology present in their bodies both through frequency emissions and
lymphaticbasicallylike when you fire a bullet theres a trajectory and the police can determine the
trajectory. There are chemical tests to do that. I was just gonna, very quickly, since its two minutes, this
is this months issue of Smithsonian Magazine that says, The Future is Here: Brain to Brain
Communication is Real. Targeted Individuals report synthetic telepathy, voices in their skull, people
putting thoughts in their head, things that up until now weve been told are complete delusion and lock
em up. But you know, the capabilities exist.
This is the National Nanotech Initiative. The last 15 years budgets of a billion and a half dollars just by the
federal governments non-black budgets. We dont know what they spend on the black budgets. Doing
experimental programs showing how nano sensors in people can give us much more data about humanity.
These technologies can be used for great good but they have apparently also been used for tremendous
evil in non-consensual human experimentation. There is great documentation on this.
I do think its a little unfortunate, that confusion about the Space Preservation Act. There arethe systems
SCADAS, theyre called. The acronym stands for Supervisory Control And Data Systems Systems. They
include a component of satellite communication from a central command post as well as components
inside the human beings, or targeted individuals. So although there is a component of these weapons
systems, and they are clearly weapons systems by the major nations on earth, theres an arms race on for
the mind at this time. Control of the human mind. The Human Brain Initiative is part of it. If I only have
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two minutes I have to stop there. I hope you will listen to these people. They are suffering greatly as nonconsensual experimentees.
Beckles: A question, really quick, to the speaker. Could you repeat the names of those two references
that you gave, the magazines? Can you give me the names of those again, please?
Colonson: The first one, the current issue of the Smithsonian Magazine. A main stream magazine, which
in this months issue, says communicating brain to brain. And this is merely what they are releasing
publicly. The majority of the most advanced weapons systems are classified and we dont know the full
capabilities. This is just the supplemental to the presidents budget, this years Nanotechnology Initiative.
And what I didnt get to say in my two minutes is the National Registry of Environmental Professionals,
which certifies people to do all kinds of environmental quality testing, has just certified SCADAS,
Supervisory Control And Data Administration Systems, as something that needs to be studied for its
environmental impact on the environment in general. And I am part of the HSCADAS task force, how
these SCADAS systems are impacting human beings. And there are thousands of reports from targeted
individuals that crimes are being committed against them. And my intention in coming here tonight was to
support their claims so that law enforcement, with as much
Mayor: I think she asked you the names of the magazinesso
Beckles: Thank you very much. Lisa Becker.
Becker: Hi. Good evening. My name is Lisa Becker and I came here from Racine, Wisconsin. I have been
a victim of this technology for 14 years. I have been tortured for 14 years. My justice department has
failed me. My executive branch has failed me. My senators have failed me. My congressmen have failed
me. You are the only people in this country who have had the courage to even put this on the agenda.
Thats why I flew all this way to thank you, and to address you. This is torture. And it is enslavement. And
any one of these people can tell you the same thing. We have suffered desperately. And Im sorry if Im
emotional. But Im very tired. But if you wont save us, save yourselves. Because I promise you, this will
come back to every one of you. Every one of us in this country are going to be tapped into these computer
systems and you are gonna see what this feels like. Do something now while you still can. Thank you.
Council Member: I have a question. Could you be more specific in terms of how you feel that youve
beenthe injustice.
Becker: You mean in terms of the justice department failing me?
Council Member: Well in terms of your being a victim.
Becker: You mean in what Im feeling?
Council Member: Yeah, explain a little bit to me how you perceive yourself as being.
Becker:
Sure, well I have actual photographs of burns on my body. When I went to my doctor, the
response was, Well how do I know you didnt do that to yourself? How do you address that? Ive passed
two psychological evaluations. Not one but two. The one physician said, Youre sound as a bell. I have no
idea whats going on with you. When I go to sleep, when I go to try to sleep, I feel like Im being lit up
like a Christmas tree. I feel like every cell in my body just bouncing out of my body. I cant even describe
it. I get electric shock up my rectum. I get electric shock up my nose. Ive woken up with burns on the
end of my tongue. Ive had burns on the palms of both my hands. I vibrate. I vibrate. I can barely hold a
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piece of paper without quivering. Does that answer your question?
Council Member: Im trying to find out whats the source.
Becker:
The source are these exotic weapons. They talk about, in 2977, they talk about the space
weapons, spaced-based weapons. Basically in that document they talk about exotic weapons. Thats what
were talking about. And the fact of the matter is they did complete that global surveillance network. My
cousin worked for the defense department. She worked on the global mapping of that system. And when I
told her what I was going through, all she could say was, Youre on your own. Well, I figured that out. I
figured that out. If you would please, I urge you to pass this. I realize you cant enforce it, but if you
would pass it, it might give other communities the courage to do the same thing and show our defense
department we are not the enemy. We are not to be attacked. We are not terrorists. Most of us are
defenseless women.
Mayor: Okay, thank you.
Becker: Thank you.
Beckles:
Our next speaker is Derrick Robinson, followed by Laquisha Baker, Dolores Hall, Kim, Alex,
Elizabeth Adams, Robert Swegan. Please come forward. Derrick Robinson.

Robinson: Good evening everyone. Im Derrick Robinson. In regards to the Space Preservation Act that
is before you, many of us have travelled here to say thanks very much for listening and responding to so
many that have come to you over the past couple of years. This is a momentous occasion for our
organization and for humanity. You are one of the very few governing authorities that has considered the
danger of psychotonic technologies. Research in this area has been ongoing since the 50s by government
agencies, corporations, criminal elements, and religious cults, etc. But, only since the arrival of the
internet, has this holocaust been made known to thousands of people who have found that they are
victims of psychotonic technologies. And that they have been sereptisciously victimized by them. And as
the devices proliferate and the public becomes more aware of these covert activities, legislation on a local
and national level will be needed to address the concerns with regard to a vulnerable society. Your
resolution today would be a giant step forward in ensuring the health, safety and well-being for all people.
Thank you.
Beckles: Laquisha Baker
Baker:
Hello to all the legislators, and city hall, Javanka, my girl Amy over there. I have been a
Richmond resident 40 plus years. Ive seen two of my friends try and fight this fight. But their minds are
gone and theres no coming back. My mother was a Black Panther. They killed her. She was only 58 years
old. And Im just happy at this moment that somebody in our town, our city, has opened the doors for
many people who couldnt make it, didnt make it, and were survivors of it. And I just want to say thank
you.
Beckles: Dolores Hall.
Hall: I did not know you were going to call me to speak. But I will share. I head up the Los Angeles
Freedom from Covert Harassment Group. Its a support group. And I have about 300 people that is in that
group. And I get over 400 emails on a weekly basis of people asking me to help them, begging me, please
help. No one will listen to me. I am 65 years old and as I walk here, up to this podium, Im in so much
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pain. I have burns all over my body. Theymy doctor I had treated with for 16 years, my legs swelled up
from the electric magnetic frequencies hitting me on my legshe told me to go to the hospital. And when I
went to the hospital they were supposed to put an IV in me. They sent me to the mental ward because
they said I did this to myself. I would never hurt me. I have been a victim since 2007. You cant see this
horrific electric hitting you. Electric is invisible. You take a remote control to turn your tv, turn on your
television. It hurts so bad. I want to thank you for opening your minds and your time today. I am a retired
legal investigator. I have asked all my friends, I have very prominent friends, to help me. They cant do
anything about this. It is way, way over our heads. They say its the shadow government. It is people that
cannot be touched. Please help us.
Beckles: Kim, next speaker.
Buckner: Hello, my name is Kimberly Buckner and I have been a targeted individual for a very long time.
The things that Ive experienced due to being targeted, they have been unreal. However, I can attest that
they are very real indeed. My life has been destroyed in every possible way and every day has been a
struggle for me. I am very grateful to be before you today due to Amy Andersons due diligence and to
everyone else involved. I thank you council members for giving us targeted individuals a chance to speak
and to be heard. And I pray that these atrocities will soon be brought to an end. But we need your help.
Thank you.
Beckles: Alex
Rafter: Good evening, my name is Alec Rafter. I am an NYU graduate and have spent much of my time
working in a financial holding company in San Francisco. I have been a targeted individual for eight years
six months. Im from Lafayette, California, which is in this county. I am here to support and corroborate
what these other speakers are trying to convey. This technology exists and is being used on a mass scale.
It is torturous, brutal and inhumane. It happens everywhere I go. People dont understand the capabilities
of this technology. The person I came with here tonight was being shocked and stabbed in this very room
with a directed energy weapon while waiting to speak with the council. My ears are getting frequency
tinnitus while I was sitting here waiting for you as well as technology called voice to skull Dr. Alan Frey.
Like I said, this happens everywhere I go in Northern and Southern California. Ive been tortured all day,
all night, minute after minute, year after year after year. We need your help and support to stop this, to
save us, and to prevent this from happening to others. Please support banning these so called spacedbased weapons. Thank you very much.
Beckles: Robert Swegan
Swegan: Good evening. My name is Robert Swegan. I live in Modesto California. Im here tonight after
being targeted for 12 years with direct energy weapons, voice to skull. I wake up in the middle of the
night in excruciating pain. Theres nobody I can call. Theres nobody to help me. You know, sometimes I
have suicidal idealization because theres no one to help. You know, Ive been diagnosed schizophrenic,
delusional, at 53 and 57 years old. Im a graduate of junior college with a degree in counseling and human
service. I commend you people for what youre doing here. I want toIm here to support my friends. And
I know this has been very difficult for me and my family. My familyI have 4 children. One is in prison
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right now. I suspect he was here for about 45 minutes. And others will not even talk to me. My familys
been fragmented. I dont tell anybody whats happening to me anymore. Its a dark secret with me. I
cannot explain to people whats happening. The police in Modesto are at least talking to me now. Theyre
not taking me down to the mental health facility. I thank you very much for listening to me.
Beckles: Marilyn Languist
Languist:
Good evening Mayor and Council Members. Marilyn Languist, Richmond resident. I want to
thank Ms Anderson for bringing this topic forward and for bringing so many speakers. I urge you to adopt
this resolution. As has been said, the original Space Preservation Act was originally introduced by
Congressman Cosenich, co-sponsored by Congresswoman Barbara Lee and Congressman Pete Stark of the
Bay Area. And this concept was also voted on and supported unanimously by the United Nations to
prohibit weaponization of space and spaced-based weapons. These are clearly not good for anyone on
earth and not good for anyone in Richmond. You have to be aware that there are a lot of exotic weapons
research programs going on. Some of them covert, some of them not covert. A former Richmond resident
sent me a lot of emails last year about a public comment period for allowing US military testing of directed
energy weapons in the Olympic peninsula in the state of Washington, which is of great concern. In terms
of the types of weapons that are affecting these individuals, before you judge the targeted individuals, I
would suggest that you listen to them, take the time to really listen deeply to their experience. Try to put
yourself in their shoes for a moment. If you can believe them, then please do what you can to support
them. If youre not sure, then I urge you to take the precautionary principle, when in doubt error on the
side of extra protection for those who are vulnerable. So please do adopt this resolution. Thank you.
Beckles: Sylvia Gray White
White: Good evening. My name is Sylvia Gray White, a very long time Richmond resident. Tonight Im so
thankful and happy that our city is looking up, waking up and standing up. Approval of this agenda item
will make an impact on the whole world and will help us to restore our mother earth and our health. The
heavy metal toxins falling down on us daily from the chem trails are done by our military without our
approval and knowledge. Lead is one of the many chemicals in the chem trails even though our
government banned it decades ago. Banned it from paint, toys, even bullets, and other manufacturing
processes. This toxin has really negatively impacted my life. Lead is very toxic and there are no safe
levels. It displaces the calcium in your bones among many other illnesses, particularly with children. The
level of lead in my body has drastically increased in the past 3 years. Ive gotta get the lead out. We need
to stop this constant daily abuse of our universal rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you
cant feel good, you cant live good. I am not the only one breathing this pollution. If you breathe, youre
breathing it too. We have rights. Stand up for them! Now in order to stand Ive got to use a cane. But I
still can stand and will stand up for whats right.
Beckles: Our last speaker is Elizabeth Adams.
Adams: First and foremost Id like to pass this cell phone around. This is what electronic burns look like.
This is my 6 year old grand-daughter who has been targeted since birth. So can I just walk around and
show this to you?
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Mayor: Give it to the clerk.
Adams: This was taken less than 30 days ago at Eden hospital. Thats when you hear of the victim speak
of being electronically burned. That is my 6 year old grand-daughter. I am 59 years old. I have 6
grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren. I first and foremost want to say that I thank God for every one
of you. And I mean literally from the bottom of my heart. I thank him for each one of you and I thank him
for the blessings that hes gonna bring your way just for addressing these issues. These issues are beyond
the average eye. The average eye cant even see it. So its not even worth even talking about in that
sense. I have sent each and every one of you information. Everything that I sent you is just what you
need to know. But theres one more thing left:
your local fusion center. You need to do some deep
research into your local fusion center. Just look it up on line. That is where you will find information, ill
activities of some sort, that is going on withinIm not going to say city government because I cant
pinpoint it. But you need to look into your local fusion center. Secondly, mental health of children(timer
beeping).May I finish just two minutes please?
Mayor: No, I think we need to give everybody the same amount of time. Thank you.
Adams: Okay, no problem.
Beckles: That was the last speaker.
Mayor: (lady asked to speak) Maam, you know, if you didnt sign up you cant speak. Okay, I have Vice
Mayor Meyers.
Vice Mayor:
I was just gonna briefly say that the weaponization of space as the history that was so
eloquently described by Council Member McLaughlin is something that I think is extremely immoral and we
should not be, as a nation, engaging in and so Im gonna support this resolution based on that.
Mayor: Do we have any other speakers? Okay, hearing none, do we have a motion?
Beckles: I can make a motion. I share that we adopt the resolution thats put before us.
Mayor: Motion of second?
Beckles: Pinplay has something
Mayor: Oh, Councilman Pinplay
Pinplay:
I just want to address for a second this whole idea about weaponization of space and there
seems to be this assumption that just because Ronald Reagan supported Star Wars, its automatically
become some unmitigated evil. The context in which it was considered a problem was simply because
there was this perception that Star Wars or any kind of strategic defense initiative could not be made
foolproof. And it could not be made foolproof because the opponent, particularly a very well-armed
opponent like the Soviet Union could launch like tens of thousands of dummy missiles at any one point
and so it would be almost impossible to intercept all of them and to distinguish the nuclear missiles from
the dummy missiles. And the understanding was that it would be that there could be a problem created
because based on the overestimation of the effectiveness of Star Wars, namely that America might think
that it was too effective and therefore, go for a first strike and knock out all the Soviet weapons. Or, on
the other hand, the Soviets might feel it was too effective and go for a preemptive strike beforehand. And
it was only in that specific cold war context that Star Wars was considered a horrible idea. Actually, Star
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Wars is not a particularly bad idea, the whole idea is that you can knock out someones weapons before
they enter your air space, in fact, long before they enter your air space. And this, for example, was
practiced more than 20 years ago, in the Gulf War, when the Patriot system modification of this was used
when the Patriot system knocked out some of the Iraqi missiles that were launched at Israel. And it is not
just a perfectly valid system, it is actually a particularly useful system, in the time that we have now
where there are nations that are not quite as well armed as the Soviet Union used to be in the 1980s.
Which may not have the capability to launch tremendous numbers of missiles at any one time. And, in
fact, this is a fairly useful system to have. And so this automatic knee jerk reaction that because Reagan
supported Star Wars and at the time it was considered a bad idea and so for that purpose it is considered
a bad idea forever, I just think this is a wrong understanding of the system. And I just wanted to mention
that.
Mayor: So we have Council Member McLaughlin next.
McLaughlin: So, I justthe reason I was interrupting because I dont think we should get into it. Thats
kind of way off base. I was just giving the history of this in general. I will say that there were some of us
in the 80s that were talking about a nuclear freeze like to stop the arms war rather than weapons in
space. You know, I think space should be for exploration and good things to learn, scientifically. Not for a
weapons trace.
Mayor: Wait, no, were not having anything from the audience. Council Member Martinez.
Martinez: Yes, just last week on 60 Minutes there was a special on the reintroduction to the arms war,
with people trying to develop missiles to take out communication satellites. But any kind of war effort is
wrong. And we need to do whatever we can to stop all war efforts. Now when I was in university in the
1980s for humanities class, I did a paper on a science fiction novel. What I actually did was, I took all of
the predictions in this science fiction novel, and then I went to magazines and newspapers, and I was
surprised to find that every single prediction in this science fiction novel, that was written 20 years earlier,
had already come true. And they were happening there, then, in 1980. So its easy for me to see that
things which are wrong can happen because we have the wrong mindset. We have the mindset which is a
war mindset and this proposition that was put forth by Cosenich was to change our attitudes towards one
of seeking peace, and thats why Im endorsing it.
Mayor: Okay, Vice Mayor.
Vice Mayor: Well, I want to say that I do think this debate is, it is on topic, because the debate on Star
Wars is sort of, was part of what initiated this. And what I would say, and its been said, that any sort of
in my viewthe idea that we dont have enough tools to kill each other here on earth and so that we need
to start doing it in space, that just is simply immoral. And you know, it may be that some wars are
unavoidable. That may be true. But whatever we can do to get our country to move away from that mind
set and move away from utilizing new methods of war, we should support. And so thats why I support this
resolution.
Mayor: Okay, if theres nobody else, lets vote. Wait. Council Member Pinplay.
Pinplay: So the motion before us, does that include things like chem trails and stuff, or no?
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Mayor: Well, let me, I think hes bringing up a good point, because, Im really confused. I think that the
resolution itself is very simple. It simply says, the city of Richmond thereby supports the Space
Preservation Act and companion Space Preservation Treaty to ensure that individuals will not be targets of
spaced-based weapons. So I see that. All the testimony Ive heard tonight is about targeted individuals.
And so, I mean, Im confused. Is this about spaced-based weapons or is it about targeted individuals? And
if individuals are targeted, whos targeting them and why? I just dont understand it.
Beckles: Its simple enough. Its saying that, on the thereforeas you read, we are supporting this Space
Preservation Act and companion Space Preservation Treaty and the reason were doing this is that
individuals will not be targets of spaced-based weapons, which is what theyre saying. All this stuff is high
technology, itsand sothats what were adopting here. And you know, whether you believe it or not, one
thing that was very clear, and Ive met with folks a lot around this issue, and some of them Im just
hearing tonight. And even the ones I heard tonight, just out of compassion for folks that are saying help
us, and us supporting this, by adopting this resolution, I think it sends out a message that, you know, we
sympathize with you, we support you, and the very least we can do is just pass this resolution to make
sure that you feel the support and love and sympathy that you deserve. Its simple, it reads right there
Mayor. Thats all were trying to pass. Whats there before you. Thats all were trying to pass. Dont
complicate it. Its simple, so vote it yes or no.
Mayor: I sympathize with everyone who is suffering some kind of affliction. But on the other hand, you
know, in 1967, the US adopted, or the President signed the treaty on the principles guarding the activities
of states in the exploration and use of outer space including the moon and other celestial bodies. So the
US government has acted on this, and they have, within that particular treaty, is a ban on using outer
space for military purposes. So, I just dont understand what were talking about. Are we talking about the
weaponization of space? Are we talking about chem trails? Are we talking about individuals who are being
targeted? If so, by whom and why? I mean, you know, Im just a dumb city council person and this is way,
way over my head. And I frankly think that its sort of way out of the purview of what this city council
could be taking up.
Weve got real problems here. Weve got potholed roads, weve got a budget thats out of balance, weve
got crime, weve got greenhouse gases. Weve got all these things to worry about and here Im being
asked to support a resolution that deals with things like chem trails and particle beams and plasmas and
mind control technologies. I just dont know enough about it. If I were an expert Id probably take a side,
but Im not. And so for that reason Im just not gonna support it. Maybe some time Ill learn more and be
more oriented
Beckles: Id like to call the questions.
Mayor: Council Member Bates
Bates: Well, it is confusing. Im gonna support the resolution for the simple reason that weve voted on
lot of dumber ideas than this resolution represents. And again, we know that we dont control the
universe, we dont control Congress. So this is the least of my worries. So, Im gonna support it. Now call
for the questions.
Mayor: Does anybody else want to talk about it? Okay, lets just vote.
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Beckles: Council Member Pinplay? No. The motion passes 5-2 with Council Member Pinplay voting no,
and Mayor Butt voting no.
Bates: One reason I voted for it was there wasnt one speaker in opposition of it.
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Richmond: Space weapons resolution prompts requests to

investigate
By Karina Ioffee kioffee@bayareanewsgroup.com
East Bay Times
Posted:Mon Jun 01 18:42:20 MDT 2015
RICHMOND -- A city resolution banning space weapons within city limits has prompted dozens of calls to the Richmond Police
Department in recent days to ask the agency to investigate the alleged use of chips, bugs and other devices for mind and body
control.
On May 19, the City Council approved a resolution supporting the Space Preservation Act and Space Preservation Treaty
permanently banning "space-based weapons," such as microchips planted in people's bodies and micro waves that supporters
believe are used by nefarious sources to harm them.
The resolution was written by Councilwoman Jovanka Beckles, who works as a mental health specialist for Contra Costa County,
and aimed at "making all Richmond residents feel safe," she said.
"I don't intend to ignore the concerns from residents who say they have been exposed to these attacks that have caused them great
emotional and bodily harm," Beckles said.
The fallout has prompted worries that Richmond, which is working hard to remold its image in recent years, will be dismissed as
slightly off by the news media and other municipalities.
" I am trying to figure out how we can use this newfound fame to help market Richmond, much as desolate eastern Nevada has
used the Extraterrestrial Highway to lure tourists to an otherwise deserted stretch of desert highway," joked Richmond Mayor Tom
Butt in a recent online posting.
But the issue actually started last June, when Richmond police Capt. Mark Gagan was asked by Beckles to meet with residents who
said they were being targeted by space technology. Eager to show the department was sensitive to residents' concerns, Gagan
agreed.
"My desire was how to better serve this population from a public safety standpoint," said Gagan, a 20-year veteran with the
department. "There are people who have a huge amount of stress, anxiety and fear. These issues have public safety implications
no matter how far-fetched they seem."
The meeting had the best of intentions. But it appears to have also motivated conspiracy theorists who began to see the city as an
ally. Gagan began receiving invitations to speak at conferences organized by the "targeted individuals" community, and a rumor
started that the city had a task force devoted to uncovering government conspiracies. One organization even gave Gagan a
"humanitarian award" for his work on the issue.
"People were thrilled that someone was finally listening to them," Gagan said.
Since that meeting, he estimates that he's received more than 100 calls from people from as far away as Ireland who say they want
Richmond police to investigate their particular situations. Gagan always takes the time to explain that the department looks at facts
and has so far found no evidence to support concerns raised by callers.
"We try to refocus the conversation, and if they are local, get them into a managed program of medication and supervision," Gagan
said.
Contact Karina Ioffee at 510-262-2726 or kioffee@bayareanewsgroup.com. Follow her at Twitter.com/kioffee
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6/5/2016 6:47 AM
Stan J. Caterbone
ADVANCED MEDIA GROUPFreedom From
Covert Harassment & Surveillance,

1250 Fremont Street

Lancaster, PA 17603
CORROBORATING EXPERT AND FORMER NSA WHISTLEBLOWER

KAREN STEWART
DISCLOSURE OF ELECTROGAGNETIC WEAPONS USED TO KILL CERTAIN
TARGETED INDIVIDUALS DURING APRIL 10, 2016 RADIO INTERVIEW
THE DISCLOSURE
Karen Stewart graduated from Florida State University in 1979 with a BS degree in German Language
and a minor or co-major equivalent in Fine Art. She worked for NSA (National Security Agency) from
1982 to 2010. Her resume will follow.
Her video interviews can be seen on the following YOUTUBE links:
Wheel of Freedom (WUA) 4/4/16 Ex-NSA Karen Stewart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExpCL27ft10
NSA whistle blower Karen Stewart exposes targeted Individuals, 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ravXai6nfMg
On March 9, 2016 I was detained and falsely imprisoned by no less than 8 NSA Security Police
on the barracks of the Headquarters of the NSA at Ft. Meade Maryland.
I was handcuffed, and
interrogated for over an hour, while my car was dog sniffed and searched. I was ordered to return to
Lancaster rather than continue on to Washington, D.C., and was ordered not to enter any federally
owned property again. The following is a video of my statement:
Statement and Video of False Imprisonment re Handcuffed and Interrogation for an hour at NSA
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Headquarters (National Security Agency at Ft. Meade, Maryland) by 8 NSA Police officers on March 9,
2015 Recorded on March 11, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeXlaQn5Nhs
Karen Stewart's resume at the NSA is as follows: I Worked various projects over the years, not
just USSR/Russia, but various countries researching/reporting on foreign military status and alliances,
weapons development and proliferation, the Chernobyl disaster and aftermath, the fall of the Iron
Curtain
and
changing
relations
among
newly
liberated
countries,
economic
and
diplomatic
developments of certain target countries. I researched and wrote a series of intelligence reports in
support of Operation Iraqi Freedom that kept secret Russian countermeasures sold to Iraq from
wreaking havoc on the American invasion. This ultimately is what got me fired because I questioned
why my work was used to promote another employee who had no experience with but, was credited
with my work .
The following transcript of an interview by Karen Stewart in which she describes the lethal
electromagnetic weapons and her experience on being on the receiving end was taken from the article
titled NSA Whistleblower Comes Out of the Shadows Into the Light and can be found at:
http://canadafreepress.com/article/nsa-whistleblower-comes-out-of-the-shadows-intothe-light
The article was written by Sher Zieve -- Bio and Archives and published March 28, 2016. The byline is
as follows: In February, 2014 I published an interview of an NSA Whistleblower. This is a follow-up to
that column. Due to recent threats to her person and other exigent circumstances, the Whistleblower
has decided to come out of the shadows and into the light. I am honored that she again chose me to
write her story.
KAREN STEWART'S TRANSCRIPT

First of all, the case STEWART V. NSA is a righteous lawsuit, (brought in 2010) meaning it is a
clear case of employer abuse of power and position to an egregious and even premeditated criminal
level meant to circumvent whistleblower protection laws like the No Fear Act. Simply put, I asked the
NSA Inspector General (IG) to investigate why my award-winning intelligence report series supporting
Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003) was used to promote an entirely different woman twice (2004 & 2005)
one who had nothing to do with my reports whatsoever, and was a known incompetent, but had
methodically sexually compromised many of the male managers within the Weapons & Space (W&S)
Directorate. Instead of following correct procedure, the IG and NSA Security decided to cover up the
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infraction by attacking me. Threats were made to paint my complaint as paranoid and to fire me for a
non-existent mental illness if I did not drop my effort to get credit for and the promotion for my own
work, given to the wrong woman. These threats quickly took shape as false accusations against me by
the guilty personnel obviously coached by Security, manifested with stalking harassment masquerading
as an investigation by NSA Security goons from 2006-2009. In late 2010, despite all evidence
showing my innocence from ridiculous and impossible charges, I was fired by an NSA Kangaroo court
with a predetermined agenda. My EEOC appeal (lawsuit) had been accepted for adjudication and the
judge had ordered no adverse action until its adjudication but NSA ignored his orders.
I moved from Columbia, Maryland back to my familys hometown of Tallahassee, Florida in 2011.
All was quiet until February 2015 when I instructed the law firm I had hired to subpoena evidence from
the Maryland Department of Motor Vehicles identifying a burglar (a now retired NSA Executive) who had
broken into my home very shortly after I had tried to make my 2006 Inspector General request for an
investigation, and stolen extra house, car, and mail keys as well as illegally bugging (burst bug) our
home and phone/internet to facilitate further harassment and likely search for blackmail material (no
luck for them there).
After the subpoena, I began noticing Security types in Tallahassee following me and photostalking me by March/April. Their license plates suggested Naval Security Group from Pensacola and
NSA Security personnel from Georgia (Augusta) and Texas (San Antonio). A quick check with the Leon
County Sheriffs Department, specifically Duty Officer deputy Canon, confirmed that NSA also had
personnel land at a private airport and deputies had escorted them the the Phipps property north of
Lake Jackson (near where I now live) for a secret exercise, just before the second round of stalking
harassment began. The sequence of events seems to have been for NSA Security to contact the Naval
Security Group in Pensacola, Florida (Headquartered at Ft. Meade, Maryland along with NSA) to initially
stalk and photograph me under ridiculous false pretenses until NSA could send its own Security
personnel to Tallahassee. Once there, under guise of authority, it appears that NSA enlisted the help of
the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) and its civilian group, InfraGard, made up of
civilians recruited from their Ride-Along programs. As usual, NSA personnel fabricated some big lie as
to why the civilians should actively and passively stalk and harass me, and despite quite obvious
questions about why laws and due process were to be completely suspended in my case, the group
eagerly jumped at the opportunity for hundreds to gang up on one person (for Federal money, I may
add).
Thus, under NSA tutelage and FDLE auspices, suddenly I was a cast-iron target, meaning
multiple people covered me wherever I was, whatever I did. Cars were even stationed near my home
overnight on rotating shifts, beeping to each other when changing shifts but also for my benefit. NSA
also sought out willing neighbors to augment their snooping and harassment efforts, which could be
anything from hosting an NSA Security goon for accessibility to my property, both home (to bug and
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monitor short-distance transmissions) and car (to install and switch out vehicle GPS trackers to
facilitate car stalking and impeding as harassment. ) Those were the active participants, others not
assigned to me on a certain shift were ordered to quickly text in to a special site the big bad threat to
report my location and time I was there. People even snooped in my shopping carts to be able to tattle
to someone about what I was doing, what I was buying. (God help us, she bought bananas!!! Save the
children!).
This was annoying enough but I tried to ignore it because I thought NSA once again was going
for the usual See, shes paranoid, reporting harassment every day now just dismiss her lawsuit!
But I did report acts of harassment that caused physical damage such as hit and run,
purposely sideswiping my car, (This is exatly what happened to the PETTITIONER on May 9,
2016 enroute to MEDEXPRESS for pain medications) and botching the placement/removal of
a GPS tracker under my rear spoiler that destroy my spoiler. (They feared my mechanic
would find their tracker so they botched its removal the night before my appointment). I
even made fun of my stalkers when I could, using my hobby art shop on a popular internet
site to create bumper magnets making fun of them. After all, they were mostly nave,
unsophisticated boobs who desperately imagined that they were little James Bonds and that
the greatest existential threat to their country was a woman waiting for her lawsuit to be
decided, living in Tallahassee, walking her dogs, visiting friends.
In late November 2015, however, NSA apparently decided that I was not sufficiently
being intimidated by their civilian confederacy of dunces to back off my lawsuit to recover
my stolen salary and stolen retirement at the appropriate pay level. In 2009 I had
researched gang-stalking and discovered it was a real and growing phenomenon, but when
electrical harassment was mentioned, I could not really grasp the concept and wondered
about its existence. But I was to find out first hand in November 2015 that it does exist and
is a horrific crime against humanity.
NSA and its operatives started using small, mobile devices called Directed Energy
Weapons (DEWs) against me and my family in the night. These mobile weapons emit
multiple types of electrical emanations from ultrasonic, to microwaves modulated to radio
frequencies, to other kinds of wave variations I cant say I understand yet. Now, with the
help of certain mercenary and morally depraved neighbors, the effort is almost 24/7 now
with the intention being torture and slow-kill. These types of weapons over a lengthy time,
cause cancer, autoimmune disease, heart attacks, seizures, strokes, etc. It is the perfect
stealth murder weapon for a corrupt government.
At this point, when we leave the house, a criminal base of stalkers has been enlisted
by NSA to follow us and aim the DEWs at us wherever feasible to increase exposure in order
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to speed up death, with the help of the InfraGard dimwits still texting in my location like
good little sheeple.
The Leon County Sheriffs Department as well as the Tallahassee Police Department
are dragging their feet, making excuses, denying any such thing exists, or insulting me when
I try to enlist their help to come up with a strategy to combat this new crime before I or
one of my family is dead. They cant quite grasp the fact that this is domestic terrorism and
nothing protects the police or any official from this new weapon held and wielded by
criminals. Yet, plenty of recruits in their ranks have experience using the mobile DEWs in
Iraq. It is very interesting to me that the Naval Security Group headquartered at Ft. Meade
with NSA, is also called the Silent Warriors because they specialize in the use of Directed
Energy Weapons. Im sure the Naval Security Group base in Pensacola has many on hand
and may have even gotten a request from NSA to borrow a few for their secret exercise in
Tallahassee.
Clearly, NSA is of the opinion that you do not have Constitutional Rights unless they
say you do. If they use this to get rid of an inconvenient lawsuit such as mine instead of
simply settling for a tenth of the cost of harassment, then they must feel confident they
can murder anyone, anywhere, for any reason and get away with itincluding any leader or
politician.
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There is no doubt that NSA is now run by sycophants and sociopaths
EXCLUSIVE: Former NSA Employee Speaks Out on its

Corruption Karen Stewart
By Sher Zieve -- Bio and Archives
February 20, 2014
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At the very least, for the past few months to a year it has become increasingly evident thatalthough
not allmany agencies of the US Federal government have become increasingly dirty, perverse and
corrupt and require a deep and thorough cleaning.
The US Secret Service has previously been exposed as including claims of involvement with
prostitutes, leaking sensitive information, publishing pornography, sexual assault, illegal wiretaps,
improper use of weapons and drunken behavior and the IRS was caught and admitted to denying
Obamas political enemies (aka TEA Party, Christians, religious Jews, conservatives) their Constitutional
rights while allowing progressive groups (aka Liberals, Leftists, Marxists, Maoists, Socialists,
Communists) theirs. Andlove him, hate him or fall somewhere in-betweenEdward Snowden shone a
very bright light on the unconstitutional domestic mega-spying of one of these clandestine agencies
the National Security Agency. Thus far, under Obamas increasingly iron rule, few-to-no members of
these agencies have even been indicted by Congress for their blatant crimes against the American
people.
The NSA appears to have begun as a patriotic organization that was geared toward protecting the USA
and its citizens. Whether or not that was its original intended purpose is a subject for discussion and
speculation. However, portions of the NSA seem to have devolved into something very sinister. Todays
interview will concentrate on this agency.
NSA Analyst. Due to a number of substantive reasons, this former Analysts identity cannot be divulged
at this time and will be referred to as W. I have, however, confirmed this individuals prior employment
and credentials via a well-known NSA Whistleblower. The information disseminated to me, amongst
other things tells a sordid story of corruption and how employees are silenced into submissionvia fear
within the agency,
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The Interview
Sher:Thanks so much for being with me, today, in order to provide essential additional information to
the public on how many of their tax dollars are really being spent. You were employed by the NSA for
over two decades. Would you tell the readers what initially attracted you to the agency as well as how it
has deteriorated over time?
Karen Stewart: Like many people from families with a strong history of serving our country, coming
out of college, I looked to find a way to best utilize my particular interests and talents in service to my
fellow Americans. The mission of the NSA it seemed to me, was to stop threats coming to our shores.
Its charter clearly targeted foreign nationals on foreign soil who did or could intend us harm. That
appealed to me as a righteous endeavor and honorable tack for my life to take.
Sher: Youve shared with me how the NSA deals with its employees who bring legitimate complaints to
their superiors. How thoroughly intimidating and threatening are their behaviors toward those who balk
at their adverse treatment? Would you give a few examples?
Karen Stewart: Apparently the nature of NSA Security degenerated under General Michael Hayden,
the previous Director of NSA (DIRNSA), who promoted a very questionable mid-level Security manager
to a power position within Security. Hayden had originally been tasked to eviscerate NSA since a very
shallow and short-sighted Congress believed that the fall of the Iron Curtain meant no danger existed
anywhere anymore that required the existence of a robust NSA presence. There evolved, under him, a
gratuitously vicious bully mindset that employees were to be intimidated at any opportunity not only to
drive them out of NSA but to cut back on people reporting problems that made NSA look bad, especially
problems involving upper management.
Under Hayden and his successor, General Keith Alexander, the filing of complaints to or requests for
investigations by the NSA EEO or the OIG (Office of the Inspector General) were often inexplicably
blown off despite adequate evidence or the presence of willing witnesses. Then the person who had
filed the complaint would be subjected to an out of cycle reinvestigation interview with Security as
well as polygraph exam, wherein the tone of the Security person was not neutralas it should bebut,
hostile with far-fetched or even ridiculous non-issues presented as potentially problematic. This was a
Security shot across the bow to warn the person that he had crossed the line by filing the complaint. If
he pursued the complaint, Security would lean on his managers to heavily discourage him from doing
what he thought was proper and was indeed a protected action under the law. If he persisted, did his
own amateur investigation, or told coworkers about the situation, he might be called down to Security
multiple times and accused of being paranoid and delusional based on his complaint, and his job
threatened.
The worse the infraction reported, especially if a high level manager looked to be involved, the more
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severe the reaction by Security. In cases of egregious wrong-doing by a manager, Security would
review the personnel files, medical files, and financial statements to find anything they could use to
threaten or blackmail him with, or pretend to misinterpret some tidbit of information as something it
was not.
Some people were forced to sign admissions of guilt of preposterous misinterpretations of facts in order
to keep their jobs, thereby killing their credibility and complaint. When nothing was found in such files
that could be used, a false accusation of espionage or leaking classified materials ginned up by Security,
was used to justify a Security intrusion into the persons home to search for blackmail material, further
assess the interests and personality of the targeted individual (TI), and plant bugs and abscond with an
extra set of keys for further intrusions. The more the person objected to being bullied, the more heavyhanded Security became, insisting that hostility toward them indicated wrong-doing on the TIs part.
Thus the TI would become harried and harassed for a crime he never committed, if it ever
even was committed, and to repeated accusations by Security Psych services of a nonexistent mental illness, more than adequately supported by years of internal, psychological
evaluations stating he was mentally sound (Paranoia with delusions is rare and certainly
never occurs overnight, but that does not deter a Security psychologist attack dog, whose
favorite mode of attack employs reference to this malady).
The more a person stood his ground, the more personal it became to Security, which then
became dedicated to the personal destruction of the TI. Under the pretext of the fake
accusation of espionage or leaking classified information, Security would slander the
individual with his coworkers, work friends and managers to isolate him and apply yet more
pressure. Many backed away from supporting the TI in fear for their careers and maybe even
freedom. Certainly this sent a message to the workforce in the TIs area that NSA Security
was at its essence, a rogue, unaccountable and psychotic entity that was to be greatly
feared.
Once NSA Security had decided upon the removal of the TI for failing to be sufficiently
cowed, then false evidence was given to the FBI liaisons assigned to NSA. This would
engender a fraudulent FISA warrant, which loosed FBI surveillance and investigators upon
the person for a few weeks or months, further slandering him to his work and social circles
and thereby putting pressure on him by their constant presence. When the FBI would find no
basis for the accusation, they would drop the case and move on. However, at that point,
Security would send in their own personnel sans warrant, to overtly stalk and harass the TI ,
24/7.
In some instances, Security has even gone into the persons

neighborhood to recruit snitches and augment harassment with
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hostile civilians convinced the TI is an enemy of the state, based

on baseless Security slander.
Intrusions would be made into his home to remove gathered evidence or
move things around as a psychological ploy and his car would be secretly
GPSd to facilitate vehicular stalking and aggressive driving games. There
have even been reports of pet murders by poisoning as an escalation of the
harassment with the inferred threat that perhaps it could be the TIs child or
himself next. The harassment is essentially elevated until the TI either
breaks and assaults a harasser or complains to Security about the insane
and sadistic, not to mention criminal way in which he is being mistreated.
This is what Security planned for and is ready to jump on as their
springboard to terminating his employment.
His security clearance is immediately pulled, he is warehoused in a menial job until adequate paperwork
and a back-story can be fabricated or forged to falsely present a termination due to mental instability or
illness, and the person is fired. Of course there is an appeals process, but it is thoroughly corrupted. No
matter how much evidence supports the victim and how little supports NSA, NSA always wins these
cases where it is clear the person was targeted for dismissal. Of course, this does nothing but embolden
more degenerate or criminal behavior while making it clear that the person reporting evil will be
considered the problem, and that in reality no labor laws or whistle protection laws can actually protect
an NSA employee, because real watch dog entities dont exist within NSA and state and Federal
authorities routinely turn a blind eye to the reported abuses even as they become more criminal and
seditious.
I shake my head at sycophant, disingenuous politicians who claim Edward Snowden could have or
should have gone through proper internal authorities to report the abuses and criminal acts being
committed within NSA. Would that be to the thoroughly corrupted, attack dog-watch dog entities, or the
thoroughly oblivious or compromised politicians responsible for oversight who are in fact, in the NSAs
pocket due to bribery, blackmail or stupidity?
Sher: The NSA seems to suffer from the some of the same maladies as did the recent outing of the
Secret Service. Without becoming too specific, would you give us a general idea as to advancement for
sexual favors that have occurred within the agency? How defeating is that to employees who are simply
working to protect the country while their bosses are indulging in sexual liaisons with lower level
employees?
Karen Stewart: In my career, promotions were always hard to come by, meted out perhaps every
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five years if you were a good or exceptional worker, but male managers discovered that they held the
keys to paradise in regard to attractive or even acceptable women willing to take shortcuts. These
were the women who would make promotions in stunningly rapid succession with little to no
accomplishments - of their own, that is. While others killed themselves with years of grueling shift work
or even multiple dangerous foreign assignments only to find themselves evaluated as a 3.6 on a scale
of 5, when an attractive, morally loose recent college graduate would receive a 4.8 for essentially
alphabetizing a shelf of reference books her first 6 months on the job. This made many, many people
bitter and certainly sent the wrong signal to the hardest workers and the most talented. Though many
stopped being as dedicated to their jobs, others did indeed press ahead and worked tirelessly knowing
their reward was the mission accomplished and not likely appropriate recognition. Capable men
despaired of receiving deserved promotions and women almost feared being promoted for exceptional
work, fearing they would be assumed to be one of the typically incapable promotion bimbos among the
bloated management. Expertise and knowledge became commodities to guard and not share with new
workers, fearing you would not reap the benefits of your own work. This of course created a situation
where expertise and insight must be gained and regained from scratch, losing precious time training up
area or target experts to the detriment of the mission.
It was very discouraging to see immature or degenerate bosses spending their time flirting and chasing
skirts, the very same people who were charged with competently reviewing your work, (keeping
apprised of the big picture so people felt free to specialize their research), and whose responsibility it
was to accurately and honestly represent their people before promotion boards. But the atmosphere of
secrecy, the strict laws about divulging names of NSA employees or anything that occurred there,
emboldened certain men to believe that their wives and families would never know of their
indiscretions, and turned work time into play time for them. And now apparently young males are also
being pursued as sexual toys. One has to wonder what is being missed in the realm of highly perishable
intelligence leads by distracted managerial incompetents.
Sher: As an additional example of NSA intimidation, one of the things youd said may be shared is your
experience with the 3 Amigos. Would you tell us about them?
Karen Stewart:There were three eccentric looking older males who were often seen in the NSA OPS1
cafeteria together, whom we also got to know by word of mouth, as master electricians well-versed in
computer science. They were nicknamed by some in the analyst field as Rasputin, Santa, and Choo
Choo or the engineer, due to their highly unusual appearances and dress. One eye witness being
harassed on yet another NSA Security retaliatory witch hunt, reported seeing one of these men at her
home, on her property, when she discovered indications that her home had been broken into, her cable
box broken into, and her phone hacked, leaving tell-tale clicking sounds at regular intervals whenever
she used her phone. Any phone tap done by warrant is done at the carriers hub under their auspices
and will not click, only illegal hack jobs click.
She noted him not only as a trespasser being
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somewhere he should not have been, but recognized him by his highly unusual appearance from work.
When she attempted to look him up in the NSA data base by career specialty, she found that what
should have been his photo, which should have been a source of pride since he was of the rank to be a
Flag Badger (Manager whose rank is senior enough to garner a photo with the American flag in the
background), was instead a photo of a desert animal called a Meercat indicating that he wanted his
identity hidden from the general NSA population.
Sher: With regards to many who have said that the NSAs collection of meta-data on all forms of
communication between legal citizens of the USA is unconstitutional, also indicated is the fact that not
one terrorist act has been stopped by said collection. It appears good old-fashioned police work is what
still gets the perp. In your opinion, is this accurate?
Karen Stewart: I think it is indeed true that the meta data collection ruse within the USA distracts
from tried and true research and investigation, which the latter method apparently DID INDEED
uncover the 9/11 plot months before it happened, well in time to have prevented it, according to two
separate analysts with whom I have spoken, one just two days after 9/11 as he broke down and
sobbed his heart out, repeating We could have saved them! We could have saved them! But they
wouldnt let us report it!, and the other several years later, who maintained the same story of being
threatened and forbidden to report any warning about 9/11, then being harassed and fired for a nonexistent mentally illness. However, it is a good means to track your political enemies and detractors and
their affiliates within the US - for future reference? It would appear much more for the self-preservation
and expansion of NSA as the ubiquitous Orwellian Big Brother than for the protection of the USA. With
the power the NSA wields, it could easily influence border control issues and immigration issues to
make us not as susceptible to terrorist intrusions and infiltrations, but that would undermine their
power grab and expansion within the US, something never intended at NSAs creation - and for good
reason.
Sher:As a former long time employee of the NSA, what do you believeif anythingcan be done to
correct the problems within the agency?
Karen Stewart:There is no doubt that NSA is now run by those sycophants and sociopaths who are
the least desirable to have in any position of such sensitivity and trust and are purging NSA ranks of
people with integrity. Compromising activity that would rightfully cost you your clearance, is now
viewed as intrinsic perks of the job once you reach a certain pay grade. These lesser leaders have
turned NSA into an American Gestapo Wanna-Be agency. NSA lost its way with non-serious super grade
playboys not mature enough for the responsibility of the job of managing and directing NSA,
compounding the problem by promoting sycophants to protect their backs as well as lightweights with
whom to have sexcapades behind office doors, but in that group also has risen opportunistic
sociopaths and psychopaths attracted to more and more power, any way they can get it, and by
conniving and ruthlessness have blown past incompetent, distracted management to change the very
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nature of the NSA from watchman to the American people to jack booted prison guard.
If the Legislative Branch is possessed of anyone with the least bit of courage and common sense, they
would demand super clearances for those on the Intelligence Oversight Committees so that years or
decades of abusive behaviors, kingdom building, or even crimes can not continually be swept under the
rug by telling these particular politicians, You dont have the need to know, just trust us. Obviously,
they cannot be trusted. An appointment to that Committee would of course have to become much more
exclusive, requiring a thorough vetting as any job with a Top Secret clearance should. But to deal with
the toxic management at NSA now, I would require every Flag Badger and Security manager to account
for himself and what he adds to the mission. If he is pork, retire him or require him to laterally transfer
to another agency. Before that however, I would require that every single Flag Badger and every
Security group manager take a polygraph by non-NSA affiliated or non-NSA sympathetic sources to
account for the millions of dollars wasted on their vicious and illegal war on NSA employees who
dutifully report fraud, waste, abuse as well as sexual predation and treason. Those who are found to be
guilty of such things as falsifying accusations against innocent employees; fabricating false witnesses
and evidence; engaging in illegal acts of breaking and entering; falsifying FISA warrant justifications;
lying to the FBI about a targeted victims criminality; falsifying psychological assessments; subverting
lie detector exams by screaming at the targeted subject during or just before the exam to create false
impressions of guilt; hiding or destroying exonerating evidence supporting their victims claims;
intimidating or roughing up witnesses; coordinating or participating in criminal stalking and harassment
activities, illegal break-ins, illegal wire taps, organizing and paying civilian groups under the table to
augment harassment of targeted employees, and lastly, conspiring to effect or cover up any or all of
these actions. And any NSA employee in that group who pleads the 5th, should be fired and stripped of
his retirement since this type of betrayal rots a country from within. NSA must be recreated, and
returned to the stated task in their founding charter of focusing on foreign enemies overseas.
Sher: W, so much of the information youve provided is truly astounding! Thanks so much for being
with us today and I hope youll be available for another should ongoing events require one.
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Oregon Herald, Dallas Times, Sacramento Sun, in international news publications, and on multiple
university websites. Sher is also a guest on multiple national radio shows.
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1NSA Whistleblower Comes Out of the Shadows Into the Light Karen Stewarty
By Sher Zieve -- Bio and Archives
March 28, 2016
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In February, 2014 I published an interview of an NSA Whistleblower. This is a follow-up to that column.
Due to recent threats to her person and other exigent circumstances, the Whistleblower has decided to
come out of the shadows and into the light. I am honored that she again chose me to write her story.
Her name is Karen Stewart Karen Stewart

BIO
Education
Freshman year - Schiller College, Strasbourg, Fr.

Sophomore - Senior years, graduated from Florida State University (79)
BS in German Language and a minor or co-major equivalent in fine art
Work History: 1982-2010 NSA (National Security Agency

Underwent initial retraining from 1982 - 83, on the job training to become a linguist in a needed foreign
language (chosen to train in depth in Russian since my college major, German was not in demand but I
had also studied Russian and French with good results).
Worked
various
projects
over
the
years,
not
just
USSR/Russia,
but
various
countries
researching/reporting on foreign military status and alliances, weapons development and proliferation,
the Chernobyl disaster and aftermath, the fall of the Iron Curtain and changing relations among newly
liberated countries, economic and diplomatic developments of certain target countries. I researched and
wrote a series of intelligence reports in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom that kept secret Russian
countermeasures sold to Iraq from wreaking havoc on the American invasion. This ultimately is what
got me fired because I questioned why my work was used to promote another employee who had no
experience with but, was credited with my work.
Note...Due to the Top Secret nature of the work, the above summary is slightly vague, by design.
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The Interview
Sher: Karen, thanks for taking the time to speak with me and its so good to have you back and this
time under your name! As a Whistleblower, what finally made you decide to come out from the
shadows?
Karen: I always intended to link my name with my story because it is a story that needs to be told, but
since I have a lawsuit against NSA (technically an appeal of an unlawful, employer action, i.e. my
termination at the 28 point year of my career for trying to request an investigation by the NSA
Inspector General), sitting under a gag order demanded by NSA, on the docket at the Equal
Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) in Baltimore, I could not do so without risking the
adjudication going against me for that reason alone. However, in 2015 NSA Security made the decision
to yet again engage in a massive slander campaign against me in my new location, thus breaking its
own gag order so I feel no compunction to be held to a standard required by the EEOC judge at NSAs
request that NSA itself clearly holds in utter contempt.
Sher: Since we last talked, a lot has happened with you. You have refused to drop your discrimination
lawsuit against the NSA and have shared with me that the agency has stepped up its efforts against
youpersonally.
Youre now being stalked by what appear to be NSA operatives. Is that correct? As you reported to me
they, also, seem to be using electronic emanation technology to both stop and damage you. I believe
former NSA employee and Whistleblower Russel Tice reported on this, also. This is really deep dark
side information. Would you tell the readers what theyre doing to you, [possibly] others and why?
Karen: First of all, the case STEWART V. NSA is a righteous lawsuit, (brought in 2010) meaning it is a
clear case of employer abuse of power and position to an egregious and even premeditated criminal
level meant to circumvent whistleblower protection laws like the No Fear Act. Simply put, I asked the
NSA Inspector General (IG) to investigate why my award-winning intelligence report series supporting
Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003) was used to promote an entirely different woman twice (2004 & 2005)
one who had nothing to do with my reports whatsoever, and was a known incompetent, but had
methodically sexually compromised many of the male managers within the Weapons & Space (W&S)
Directorate. Instead of following correct procedure, the IG and NSA Security decided to cover up the
infraction by attacking me. Threats were made to paint my complaint as paranoid and to fire me for a
non-existent mental illness if I did not drop my effort to get credit for and the promotion for my own
work, given to the wrong woman. These threats quickly took shape as false accusations against me by
the guilty personnel obviously coached by Security, manifested with stalking harassment masquerading
as an investigation by NSA Security goons from 2006-2009. In late 2010, despite all evidence
showing my innocence from ridiculous and impossible charges, I was fired by an NSA Kangaroo court
with a predetermined agenda. My EEOC appeal (lawsuit) had been accepted for adjudication and the
judge had ordered no adverse action until its adjudication but NSA ignored his orders.
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I moved from Columbia, Maryland back to my familys hometown of Tallahassee, Florida in 2011. All
was quiet until February 2015 when I instructed the law firm I had hired to subpoena evidence from the
Maryland Department of Motor Vehicles identifying a burglar (a now retired NSA Executive) who had
broken into my home very shortly after I had tried to make my 2006 Inspector General request for an
investigation, and stolen extra house, car, and mail keys as well as illegally bugging (burst bug) our
home and phone/internet to facilitate further harassment and likely search for blackmail material (no
luck for them there).
After the subpoena, I began noticing Security types in Tallahassee following me and photo-stalking me
by March/April. Their license plates suggested Naval Security Group from Pensacola and NSA Security
personnel from Georgia (Augusta) and Texas (San Antonio). A quick check with the Leon County
Sheriffs Department, specifically Duty Officer deputy Canon, confirmed that NSA also had personnel
land at a private airport and deputies had escorted them the the Phipps property north of Lake Jackson
(near where I now live) for a secret exercise, just before the second round of stalking harassment
began. The sequence of events seems to have been for NSA Security to contact the Naval Security
Group in Pensacola, Florida (Headquartered at Ft. Meade, Maryland along with NSA) to initially stalk
and photograph me under ridiculous false pretenses until NSA could send its own Security personnel to
Tallahassee. Once there, under guise of authority, it appears that NSA enlisted the help of the Florida
Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) and its civilian group, InfraGard, made up of civilians
recruited from their Ride-Along programs. As usual, NSA personnel fabricated some big lie as to why
the civilians should actively and passively stalk and harass me, and despite quite obvious questions
about why laws and due process were to be completely suspended in my case, the group eagerly
jumped at the opportunity for hundreds to gang up on one person (for Federal money, I may add).
Thus, under NSA tutelage and FDLE auspices, suddenly I was a cast-iron target, meaning multiple
people covered me wherever I was, whatever I did. Cars were even stationed near my home overnight
on rotating shifts, beeping to each other when changing shifts but also for my benefit. NSA also sought
out willing neighbors to augment their snooping and harassment efforts, which could be anything from
hosting an NSA Security goon for accessibility to my property, both home (to bug and monitor shortdistance transmissions) and car (to install and switch out vehicle GPS trackers to facilitate car stalking
and impeding as harassment. ) Those were the active participants, others not assigned to me on a
certain shift were ordered to quickly text in to a special site the big bad threat to report my location
and time I was there. People even snooped in my shopping carts to be able to tattle to someone about
what I was doing, what I was buying. (God help us, she bought bananas!!! Save the children!).
This was annoying enough but I tried to ignore it because I thought NSA once again was going for the
usual See, shes paranoid, reporting harassment every day now just dismiss her lawsuit! But I did
report acts of harassment that caused physical damage such as hit and run, purposely sideswiping my
car, and botching the placement/removal of a GPS tracker under my rear spoiler that destroy my
spoiler. (They feared my mechanic would find their tracker so they botched its removal the night before
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my appointment). I even made fun of my stalkers when I could, using my hobby art shop on a popular
internet site to create bumper magnets making fun of them. After all, they were mostly nave,
unsophisticated boobs who desperately imagined that they were little James Bonds and that the
greatest existential threat to their country was a woman waiting for her lawsuit to be decided, living in
Tallahassee, walking her dogs, visiting friends.
In late November 2015, however, NSA apparently decided that I was not sufficiently
being intimidated by their civilian confederacy of dunces to back off my lawsuit to
recover my stolen salary and stolen retirement at the appropriate pay level. In 2009
I had researched gang-stalking and discovered it was a real and growing
phenomenon, but when electrical harassment was mentioned, I could not really
grasp the concept and wondered about its existence. But I was to find out first hand
in November 2015 that it does exist and is a horrific crime against humanity.
NSA and its operatives started using small, mobile devices called Directed Energy
Weapons (DEWs) against me and my family in the night. These mobile weapons
emit multiple types of electrical emanations from ultrasonic, to microwaves
modulated to radio frequencies, to other kinds of wave variations I cant say I
understand yet. Now, with the help of certain mercenary and morally depraved
neighbors, the effort is almost 24/7 now with the intention being torture and slowkill. These types of weapons over a lengthy time, cause cancer, autoimmune
disease, heart attacks, seizures, strokes, etc. It is the perfect stealth murder
weapon for a corrupt government. At this point, when we leave the house, a
criminal base of stalkers has been enlisted by NSA to follow us and aim the DEWs at
us wherever feasible to increase exposure in order to speed up death, with the help
of the InfraGard dimwits still texting in my location like good little sheeple.
The Leon County Sheriffs Department as well as the Tallahassee Police Department are dragging their
feet, making excuses, denying any such thing exists, or insulting me when I try to enlist their help to
come up with a strategy to combat this new crime before I or one of my family is dead. They cant
quite grasp the fact that this is domestic terrorism and nothing protects the police or any official from
this new weapon held and wielded by criminals. Yet, plenty of recruits in their ranks have experience
using the mobile DEWs in Iraq. It is very interesting to me that the Naval Security Group headquartered
at Ft. Meade with NSA, is also called the Silent Warriors because they specialize in the use of Directed
Energy Weapons. Im sure the Naval Security Group base in Pensacola has many on hand and may
have even gotten a request from NSA to borrow a few for their secret exercise in Tallahassee.
Clearly, NSA is of the opinion that you do not have Constitutional Rights unless they say you do. If they
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use this to get rid of an inconvenient lawsuit such as mine instead of simply settling for a tenth of the
cost of harassment, then they must feel confident they can murder anyone, anywhere, for any reason
and get away with itincluding any leader or politician.
Sher: Why in the world do you think the NSA simply didnt settle the suit? With all of the
documentation you have, it seems that they are guilty of the discrimination and could have spent far
less of the taxpayers money to simply pay you off and make it go away. They would, also, have
avoided this coming out into the open. Are they that arrogant and Narcissistic?
Karen: This has truly NEVER made any sense to me or any of my friends, even those who worked at
NSA. NSA could have investigated, claimed a mistake had been made and retroactively promoted me
without even addressing the unethical behavior of W&S personnel. Instead, the IG refused to
investigate, illegally of course, but I could not have made him do his job. Plus, the guilty were
instructed to blame me for what turned out to be the first leak by ex-NSA executive Thomas Drake,
despite the fact that I had no access to, knowledge of or training in the type of material he leaked
(computer technology) and he was identified as the source of that leak six months before I was fired.
The polygraph section of Security actively tried to sabotage my polygraph exams in response to the
false counter-accusation by inappropriately screaming and threatening me, making it impossible to pass
a polygraph, which ruined my first polygraph in this regard though I passed the next two of the three
given in reaction to the false accusation.
The EEOC is capped at $300,000 actual damages, no punitive allowed. My intention was to get the lost
difference in my wages as a GS-12 when I should have been a GS-14, and to get the appropriate level
of retirement. Yet, clearly, NSA has spent millions organizing and paying civilians (and greasing the
palms of crooked law enforcement) to harass, bully, intimidate,and quite obviously viciously slander
me.
Do they engage in such psychopathic behavior because they can? Because they simply have no real
oversight? The operational head of NSA Security is indeed rumored far and wide to be an actual
psychopath who is obsessed with paintings of Dantes Inferno.
A coworker who worked in NSA Human Resources says she remembered when the resumes of
inappropriate people (criminals, perverts, mentally unstable) were automatically thrown away but
suddenly when General Hayden, a former NSA Director, promoted this particular man, the resumes of
thieves, moral degenerates, etc., were then coveted by Security. She said that she was so upset that
she had to find a different job. I did read an opinion on the Anti-polygraph site that NSA Security
leadership, and hence all of Security in essence, could be said to suffer from Dark Triad personality
disorder, which is a dangerous combination of such things as (malignant) narcissism, sociopathy, etc.
Their egos are such that they are obsessed with winning at all costseven fighting to keep a known
false accusation from being proven false by their victim, because they exist in their own projected
narrative. They exist in their own lies and cannot stand being exposed. This means they follow their
own agendas. What is good for NSA Security leadership, even at the cost of NSA or the USA. Their
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allegiances are to themselves. This has made me wonder, of late, if the woman who Security protected
instead of reprimanding or firing for sexually compromising W&S management was not a Security plant,
meant to do just that. And, in so doing, was NSA Security procuring a means to blackmail these
managers for themselves or another entity, perhaps foreign?
Sher: You have multiple photos and even drawings youve made of you stalkers. Youve also indicated
to me that the NSA has been in touch with your local law enforcement. Said law enforcement is siding
with the NSA against youa private citizen. What do your attorneys have to say about these?
Karen: At the beginning of my search for a law firm to take my case, Melville Johnson PC informed me
that I had potentially two cases, in 2009, an employment law case and a criminal case. I could only
afford to pursue the employment case since I was facing illegal termination on false pretenses within a
few months. While my lawyers have recorded the information about the new assault campaign by NSA
in Florida, thus far their pleas with the EEOC for some kind of response because their client is now in
physical danger have been completely ignored.
What has been going on in Florida is entirely criminal and could be a separate lawsuit, to even include
law enforcement in regard to their depraved negligenceif not complicity. But, at the moment, I am
concerned with surviving the relentless Directed Energy Weapons assaults. If I do not, then my family
will have to consider a wrongful death lawsuit against NSA, FBI (that refuse to get involved because
NSA is involved), and the FDLE, the TPD and Leon County Sheriffs Department as well as certain
complicit neighbors accepting a new riding mower or new carpeting in exchange for helping NSA
murder an inconvenient person who actually thought she had any Constitutional, human, or Civil
Rights.
Sher: With regards to your lawsuit, what are your current plans?
Karen: Good question. Reporting and recording the new barrage of assaults has whittled deeply into
my retainer. This was hard enough to maintain after spending about $110,000, thus far, and often
countering ridiculous and frivolous legal shenanigans by NSA to waste my money. With an outrageously
unresponsive EEOC, which may indeed be a complete and obscene sham for show, one wonders why
continue with the pretense that we exist as a nation of laws? Clearly, we do not.
The government has no desire for a level playing field to impede its quest for complete tyranny. We are
now a nation of wolves and sheeple. Im sure that after getting wind of this article, NSA will come to
the EEOC with big crocodile tears claiming they need to win by default because I broke the gag order
after they themselves spent millions, bald-faced lying to thousands of civilians, law enforcement and
(apparently) the FBI about me, invoking National Security Letters to swear them to secrecy and to hide
the true nature of their faux secret exercise in Tallahasseei.e., enticing a foolish community to stalk,
harass and commit murder for Big Brother.
But, God forbid the victim would speak out!
It truly sickens me that I spent my career trying to protect and serve my fellow Americans when not
only my government but these unworthy mercenary, sociopaths have stabbed me in the back. Some of
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the stalkers have even been Iraqi War veteranssome of whom might not have returned alive without
my reports.
I cant think a lot about the lawsuit with each nocturnal assault leaving me wondering if I or one of my
family will not wake up tomorrow. Im sentenced to death for being a patriot. What a country. I read
Psalm 91 & 94 nightly, praying God will want to erase this growing evil from our country. But, I also
remember that Ruth Graham said a while ago, if God doesnt judge America, Hell have to apologize to
Sodom and Gomorrah.
Americans are just not the people they and we used to be and, therefore, our leaders are either
apathetic cowards who tolerate evil or potentially monsters like NSA Securitywho show that they can
be and are not responsible to anyone but themselves.
Is NSA Security even able to be reined in anymore? Or would any potential leader be found dead of a
microwave induced heart attack if he tried to? Someone ought to care but I may not be around long
enough to see it.
Sher: Thanks you so much for all youve done and I sincerely hope and pray youre wrong, Karen. Its
individuals like you who founded the United States of America on Godly principles and an unwavering
sense of ethics.
*Karen may be contacted for interviews at kams56@ME.com
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StanJ. Caterbone
Freedom From Covert Harassment &
Surveillance,
1250Fremont Street
Lancaster, PA 17603
717-669-2163
Greg Szymanskis Interview

With Julianne McKinney
Microwave Harassment and Mind Control
Transcribed for Advanced Media Group,
05/28/16
This interview contains information from Julianne McKinneys book Microwave Harassment and
Mind Control Experimentation, 1992, as well as current conditions world-wide. Years of
interviews turned Gregg Szymanski from skeptic to believer in the secret world of electronic
harassment, as harassment against Julianne McKinney has turned potentially lethal. They are
taking a stand to help TIs, Targeted Individuals, many civilians, escape this cruel harassment.
Julianne: Okay. I have seen evidence of a closed circuit TV and it seems to be some form of major
source of entertainment and perhaps instruction for the individuals participating in this harassment. I
dont know who runs it. I have seen aspects of that on a large screen TV across the street on which I
saw surveillance films of a TI being harassed, obviously, in an office environment. Gang stalked. Shows
brain scans and is otherwise a very sophisticated, sleek, communications operation. Why would it be
used? As I said either for entertainment, for creating a sense of unity, or for identifying persons, TIs,
who are to be harassed on the street. I mean, obviously you cant harass someone if you dont know
what that person looks like. So its a means of communicating to the perpetrators, perps, what the TI
looks like.
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TRANSCRIPT OF GREG SZYMANSKIS INTERVIEW WITH JULIANNE MCKINNEY

ON MICROWAVE HARASSMENT AND MIND CONTROL
Published May 28, 2016
Greg Szymanski:
(Also) I have a guest whos never given a radio interview before. Her name is
Julianne McKinney. For those of you who dont know who she is, she is an expert in electronic
harassment and surveillanceformer military background. And those of you who have followed this
story on my show, many may know who she is and the importance she has in this field.
Were just going to lay some very solid credibility to what weve been talking about. So this interviews
quite important and I want you to remember that, as we go along, shes a very, very well-read person.
Were gonna get to that in a minute. The problem on the use of electronic weaponry on a person was
when I was working in a law office. The law office I was working for severaloh a number of years ago,
the law office I worked for prided in taking cases that were difficult. And I listened to a person tell me
about the facts regarding the use of electronic weaponry. And I had a discussion with somebody else at
the law firm and we came to this conclusion causation causation causation Greg, remember that
element. Its going to be awfully difficult to link whats happening to the person. The injuries they were
alleging, to actually the person, or the defendants, that were doing it.
So it was a case, Ill be very honest with you, that I was very skeptical over. But, as a journalist, I
started to interview a number of people, and I would like to say that this issue, after a number of years,
has come up to one of the top of my list as a problem in this country.
I talked to hundreds of people all around the country that are experiencing things that are just
unbelievable. And from a standpoint of the law, you want to get justice for these people. You hate to
see their lives destroyed, and you hate to see what happens, to a person thats been harassed. But the
biggest problem is its very difficult to pinpoint whats going on.
I have a guest today who is an expert in this field. You, the public, may not know who she is. But those
of you who have been targeted and listen to my show know very well. Shes never been interviewed
before and I feel honored that shes here. Her name is Julianne McKinney. Shes had an extensive
career in the US Army as an Area Intelligence Case Officer till 1990.
Upon her return to civilian life Julianne became a member of the Association of National Security
Alumni. That is an organization of former intelligence officers dedicated to exposing excesses by the US
Intelligence Services. Julianne became the director of the Electronic Surveillance Project under their
auspices
as
such
she
authored
the
publication
Microwave
Harassment
and
Mind
Control
Experimentation in 1991. She kept that electronic surveillance project going for four years, funding it
with her own personal funds, obtained by her military benefits and pay.
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Julianne did not copy write her work and it is out in the public domain for the public good. Microwave
Harassment and Mind Control Experimentation, the public has taken her hard copy publication and
uploaded it to several thousand domain sites over the past 15 years. It is respected as one of the most
important publications on this subject. And with that, Id like to say hello, Ms. McKinney, how are you
today?
Julianne McKinney: Please dont call me Ms. McKinney (laugh).
Greg: Okay, can I say Julianne?
Julianne: Yes, Julianne.
Greg: Now, youre an expert in surveillance and electronic harassment. The first question I have is
that, in your observation, is there a wider scale of surveillance of average people, people with no threat
to national security, in your estimation?
Julianne: I would say that most of us targeted are not, and never have been, a threat. I think that
what happened initially, when these operations began probably 30 years, ago people were singled out,
perhaps, because of some affiliation, either direct or indirect, with the United States government, and
invited attention. But they were not singled out as being a threat; they were singled out as being
lucrative targets of experimentation.
In the past 15 years, since shutting down the Electronic Surveillance Project, primarily to seek
employment, which I did seek, and did obtain, I had occasion to observe many, many, many instances
of individuals in the corporate environment being singled out and targeted simply because they were
convenient targets of opportunity. And, I have to comment on something I heard you say
Greg: Okay
Julianne:
Early on you referred to the difficulty of establishing causation in order to pursue these
claims.
Greg: That, I might add, that was made is a legal sense, based on the fact that we were nave people,
not really understand I have to be honest with youI had not understood the problem back then,
and felt it would be a difficult problem, based on the fact of how the crime was committed and knowing
how to pin that crime on someone. Go ahead.
Julianne: I understand the legal implications, certainly. There is enough literature, on the internet and
elsewhere, that establishes the existence of these weapon systems. To pinpoint, for purposes of
prosecution, to pinpoint their existence would be difficult and the position I take is that rather than
pinpoint for prosecution purposes, easy enough to single them out by electronic means to destroy
them. But I guess thats taking the matter a little far left field.
I think, frankly, we still face, until congress establishes laws that forbid the use of these technologies
for involuntary experimental purposes, that were going to get absolutely nowhere in attempting to
prosecute.
Greg:
Okay, listen, I need to take a break Julianne. And well be back in three minutes on the
Investigative Journal.
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Julianne: Okay.
Greg:
Okay, back for the second half hour. My guest is Julianne McKinney. Shes an expert on
surveillance and electronic harassment. And Julianne, I gave you an introduction at the beginning of the
show.
Julianne: Yes
Greg:
A brief introduction. But I think our listeners would like to know your background and why
youre qualified to make these statements. I think its important.

Julianne: Okay.
Greg: If you could do that for us.
Julianne: Well, I would take exception to the term expert in these weapons systems.
Greg: Okay.
Julianne:
I certainly have had experience with them, having, for approximately the past 40 years,
been on the receiving end of this type of harassment. Expertise in surveillance comes with my
employment in the intelligence field. I understand what constitutes surveillance and am capable of
immediately spotting the surveillance and I can see, as in the case of gang stalking, a subject that you
have addressed on prior occasions. I can see those who I label as covert want-to-bes fumbling through
what they think are covert activities and Id find it really rather amusing if it werent so perverted in the
ultimate objective.
Im not certain what more I can add. I do have experience with these weapon systems. Ive had
sufficient opportunity over these past many years to observe the progressive threat of these
harassment operations. And Im talking specifically about electronic weapon systems.
Greg: Well, youve been a voice - I mean a strong voice - for warning people of these systems for at
least the past 10 years regarding the installation of specialized electronic equipment and utilities. What
are these electronics and what are their capabilities?
Julianne:
Their capabilities, generally, are to inflict pain in a highly focused fashion, and to alter
mental states. Certainly, when you have a frequency aimed at your brain, your mental functions tend to
alter. In amplified form, theyre sufficient, the frequencies are. They have the capacity to kill. Though
thats one reason the department of defense refers to them as less than lethal rather than nonlethal weapons. As a matter of fact, the Department of Defense has gone so far to eliminate them, to
remove them from the category of even less than lethal weapons to bury them in the category of
electronic weapons trying to make them a little bit blacker.
Greg:
Now is this protocol of surveillance and harassment seemingly patterned after a government
protocol now applied to the general civilian population?

Julianne:
Its difficult to pinpoint everything on the US government exclusively because these are
global operations.
Greg: Okay.
Julianne:
The pattern the protocols, are virtually identical on a global scale so someone is
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overseeing the entire activity. The government obviously is complicent because otherwise these
operations would not be allowed to exist. Why? Its hard to say. Whether its for testing electronic
weapon systems for future use under combat conditions or whether ultimately there's a holocaust. (nointelligible) Its hard to say.
Greg:
Well, you know what I find interesting.how people who arent aware of this problem cant
believe its happening to begin with. And I try to mentionI have run stories about the Duplessis
Orphans. Its a program thats been verified, that the government actually used money in Canada and
the United States to do medical testing on children, on adults. Ive talked to people on the POW issue,
one Dr. Joe Douglas, who has documented how, that our government has done allowed foreign
governments to do illegal experimentation on POWs. So why would people think that they wouldnt
allow it on just average citizens? Just in your mind. Do you have an answer for people?
Julianne: Why wouldnt they allow it?
Greg: Yeah, my thing is that they do it, theyre doing it. But some people that deny it cant believe
that our government would do something like this.
Julianne: I find, even among the community of, I hate using slang terms, but the term TI is common,
referring to targeted individuals. Those are people who know they are on the receiving end of electronic
weapon systems. And even amongst TIs, there is a perception in certain areas that our government
wouldnt do this; a case of not recognizing reality. First of all if this were not being done by our
government, congress would step in because of the hundreds of complaints they have received,
thousands of complaints, no doubt, over the past 10-15 years, from citizens who recognize whats going
on. Congress, back in the early 90s, late 80s, took the position that anyone complaining about these
systems were imagining things because they simply didnt exist. In two years, by 1992, they were off
the drawing boards, and in fact, being fielded and conveyed to law enforcement agencies.
Congress recognizes that these weapon systems exist and funds them, and knows, as a result of
appropriate briefings, what the bio-effects can be. Yet they have passed no legislation prohibiting their
use under unconstrained experimental circumstances.
Thats number 1. Number 2, given the nature, given the nature, given that the systems draw on
existing power grids, it would be necessary for the FCC at a minimum, and the Department of Energy,
as a minimum, give some oversight and control over what is going on. Though obviously, those with
Congress, the FDA and the Department of Energy, the FCC and the Department of Energy are
knowledgeable and yet unwilling to do anything about it. So, there is complicity, but the question is,
whos knitting, and submitting, the US government, allowing these operations to take place?
Greg: Now from your experience, how intense is this surveillance of targeted individuals? And tell us
about the ways that the targeted that this is accomplished.
Julianne: From what I have observed, first of all I should explain that the standard that I address this
in Microwave Harassment and Mind Control Experimentation, it was a pattern that was unfolding as I
was dealing with other targeted individuals whothat contacted me. It was a pattern of harassment
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which indicated that there had been some surveillance going on, some monitoring of their private lives.
There had been entry into their houses. There was systematic harassment. And then, ultimately, as part
of a softening up process, and then ultimately, electronic harassment, which followed; which would
include the inducement of auditory input, which is now being referred to as Z2K.
In answer to your question (laugh) Im not certain if I I think Im probably missing the point there,
but in order to target someone, it requires that that person be put under surveillance, so that their
personality traits, their capacity to inter- relate with people, their capacity for corruption or noncorruption, that seems to be a critical point. And even their religion factors into it.
Following a period of harassments, they are singled out for preliminary stages of harassment which
includes gang stalking, entry of their private homes or apartments, followed by gradually intensified
and ultimately extremely intensified electronic harassment. This is the pattern that has unfolder over
and over and over.
Greg:
And so, when you, I guess what Im getting atthats a very good answer. Youre seeing a
pattern amongst these individuals. I guessyeahis there any pattern about how they choose them?
Julianne: I cant speak for men. But it appears that quite a few of the women who have been singled
out appear to be somewhat, too independent; perhaps too intelligent. Tend to live alone or tend to
pursue professional careers. Theres a heavy predominance of those types of women in the TI
community, the community of targeted individuals. Men are in a smaller proportion and seem to be
those who have a propensity to fly off the handle. Have a sense of self-esteem and pride that seems to
invite targeting. And I did mention a curious predominance of a certain lack of religion amongst TIs, as
opposed to a certain predominance of a particular religion amongst those who are participating in these
operations.
Greg: Now you mentioned this was a global problem. Have you communicated with people from across
the Atlantic regarding whats going on in other countries? Is it similar to here?
Julianne:
Its virtually identical, virtually identical. When I was running the electronic surveillance
project I was in extensive correspondence with people overseas and patterns were the same. The
nature of the gang stalking and harassment were the same.
Greg: Now, when youre talking about specific numbers I know youreyouve been following this for
years and years and years. Is there any way that you can give our listeners a kind of an idea of how
wide spread this problem is in terms numbers in our country and compared to maybe overseas?
Julianne: I would say that the person who has realized what is going on is just a drop in a bucket. The
persons whom I have seen being targeted are completely unaware of whats happening. So those who
are complaining of this are, as I said, the tip of the iceberg. I would say this is very, very, widespread.
But I cannot under the circumstances come up with any figures. Many, many, many thousands, no
doubt, are involved. But I would say that the bulk of them are running to their doctors and taking
totally unnecessary prescription drugs to cure ailments that dont exist.
Gregg: I guess that you have to ask this question even though its very difficult to answer. And you
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mentioned, you said it earlier. But I really have to ask it because its on my mind and I know its always
in the back of everyones mind when they think of this problem. Why?? What is the major reason, I
mean, outside of just pure experimentation Im interested; for example, lets say that they have
targeted 100 people in Oklahoma. What do they, first of all, why are they doing it? Is it for, basically, a
blanket statement controlling the population? Orand, what do they do with this information once they
get it?
Julianne: I dont think they do anything with the information once they get it, other than to establish
a harassment protocol which will follow that targeted individual for the rest of his or her life. Why are
they doing it? I see a number of reasons. First, I dont know if youve done any research on the
phenomenon of capturing a percentage of the population in order to install a dictatorship. There is
always a percentage of the population, roughly 20% or so, that will buckle and throw whatever
constitutions might exist into the toilet and eagerly join the efforts at destroying the remainder of the
population.
Part of the problem or part of the objective they are seeking obviously is testing the latest and greatest
in electronic weaponry and other forms of technologies. A part of it is to control and choreograph those
who are involved in these harassment operations on the dispensing end. And it would appear that those
being targeted are simply objects who I see as ultimately being disposable. In other words, I think that
once full control is established over a major percentage of the population, and enough of the population
is silenced and unwilling to stick their necks out, that we inevitably would be heading toward a
holocaust.
Greg: The question, if I was, for example, lets say we have a person, who suspects, and lets just for
hypothetical purposes, say this person is being targeted, okay? Now, tell our listeners, because Ive
always wondered this myself, okay. Im sitting in my house and I see around me theres telephone
poles, there may be a tower in the distance that I dont see that handles the cell phones. Theres of
course a grid of electric going on around me. Ive talked to people and I try to say, how does this get
into your house? And I wanted to get your opinion, if a person is targeted, how basically are they
beginning to intrude their premises, and violate their constitutional rights, not only their rights ofnot
only trespassing on their property? Go ahead. How would that happen?
Julianne: Now, are you talking about, how would the frequencies impact upon them and how would
they first become aware of it? Or how would they first become aware of the fact that their privacy has
been violated?
Greg: Well no, I guess I didnt explain the question right. I wanted to know how they physically, are
doing it? I mean are they using a cell tower? Are they using a truck thats in the distance? How is this
being transmitted into the home to target the person and to use this weaponry on them, from your
experience?
Julianne: Well, first of all, in order to target a person you have to be able to see that person. And
while they may not be able to, they may, on entering the house, plant miniature cameras, miniature
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microphones, as a means of, for their monitoring a person. But that is not necessarily the means by
which they hone in on a person. There are plenty of technologies that allow for the imaging of a person
that might be sitting in a chair, as you mentioned you might be.
Using infrared imagery techniques, for example, they can capture your image by monitoring the
concentration of heat emanating from your body using certain acoustical frequencies, they can detect
mass. And using sophisticated computer software, they can convert those images to likenesses on
computers, which conceivably could be used in a software program that could be connected to an
electronic weapon system. And in that context I should point out that, while devices draw on the
existing power grid, and while theyyes indeed, they do involve microwave towers
Sounds like youve got a commercial coming on
Greg:
Yes we do, and thank you for making my job easier. Well be back in 3 minutes on the
Investigative Journal.
First, Ive put this in the top 3 of my stories that I believe are important, that the American people need
to deal with, because as Ms. McKinney, who is a, I consider her an expert. She would only say shes an
authority. But let me tell you, Julianne, you are an expert in this. The reasons could be, like she said at
thebefore we went into the break, and a total testing of our population to see, basically, perhaps
maybe there is a holocaust in the future or a dictatorship in the future. And they want to see how
people react to it. That may be a simplistic way to look at it. Not a simplistic way that Julianne looked at
it but my way of explaining it.
But lets get back to some of the things here, the last few minutes that are important. What can you tell
us, Julianne, about the microwave energy on citizens in terms of the existence of such a program and
the nuts and bolts of what they do?
Julianne:
Microwave energy is only one aspect of the entire electromagnetic frequency spectrum.
Microwaves can be lethal depending upon how theyre used. Obviously in order to achieve appropriate
effects on people, they have to be pulsed, because otherwise the individual would be cooked from the
inside out. The objective of using microwaves as opposed to other electromagnetic frequencies would
be to inflict extremes of pain to cause thermal heating. Thats a common complaint which leaves a hot
spot on the scull. Again, primarily, just to inflict extremes of pain. I was just wondering, we kind of
skipped over or didnt quite complete a preceding topic.
Greg: Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Youve got free reign.
Julianne:
You were talking about the use of the electrical grid throughout the country, the use of
microwave towers, the use of devices affixed to poles that are connected to power lines. But what
wasnt addressed, what you havent mentioned, is also that these weapon systems are used by
neighbors surrounding persons who have been singled out as targets of opportunity.
Greg: Are they solicited to do this or what?
Julianne: Thats something that Ive been pondering for some time. Again, what Ive noticed is, there
seems to be a predominant, particular religion that makes it particularly easy for them to cooperate.
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Greg: Well listen, lets talk about that after the break, a short break, and then Ive got something to,
some business I have to take care of for 3 4 minutes. Then well get back for our 2 nd hour with
Julianne McKinney. Well take some calls. Back in 2 minutes on the Investigative Journal.
(In this section there seemed to be jumping around, like maybe the video was edited or there was
some problem with the recording.)
by some of the Tis and thats Targeted Individuals.
That song rose to number one without any publicity on the internet. And that song called TI, well play
that again Dr. McKinney. I think it hits the nail on the head. I mean theres a lot of people out there
suffering. And I know youre one person, an authority in this field. And for my guests who are just
picking us up this hour, Dror excuse me, Julianne McKinney is a very highly regarded person in the
field of electronic weaponry, and surveillance in studying this issue. Shes a former area Intelligence
Case Officer until 1990 in the Army. And her credentials can be found, will be found, you can go to
RBNLive.com and go to my archives in the Investigative Journal and read about that. Shes well
qualified. Shes still with us this hour. And Dror excuse me, I keep calling you Dr. and you should be.
Julianne: (Laugh) Im not a Dr., thank you. Dr. Americus.
Greg: Dr. Americus. You know, thats funny. I have a doctorate in law. And nobody ever calls me that
and I hate being called that, a doctor. But Im interviewed on a Tehran TV station once every blue
moon, couple months, and they refer to me as Dr. Szymanski. And its nice to hear once in a while. Ill
be honest with you. Every two months is good enough. Otherwise they just call me the jerk on the
radio, which is better.
But, lets go from here. Youre adding such credibility to this story, adding credibility in my mind as I
speak. Because, Ive talked to hundreds of these people and was a doubting Thomas in the beginning. I
must mention that. I did not think it existed, and that was years ago. I thought people were either
insane, or crazy, or trying to get attention. But you know something? I will admit I was totally wrong
with that initialI guessthe look at the situation and have come around to fully believe in most of the
people I talk to and really sympathize with their suffering as I see their lives being ripped apart.
Are there any things you can dowere going to get into a few more things here as far as the technical
aspects of this but what can targeted individuals do to get some peace in their life? I mean thats one
thing theyre looking for. Is there anything they can do?
Julianne: (prolonged silence)
Greg: Difficult question there.
Julianne: Its very difficult to advise targeted individuals how to acquire peace. These frequencies can
be blocked or deflected. All of these frequencies I have found, some may contest this, but I have found
can beare vulnerable, and are subject to deflection. And the pain can be immediately (word unclear),
if not halted all together. Finding peace by writing to members of congress or to state legislators might
not be a better alternative because you will be treated as something worthy of the circular basket. They
just wont intervene. Writing to the various agencies and calling a meeting with them serves no useful
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purpose either because they will say there are no laws prohibiting these types of activities. They cant,
say for example, the FBIand I was given this statement on a number of occasions.there are no laws
prohibiting experimentation with these weapon systems. Youre talking to the wrong people.
So my advice would be to do what you can to secure your premises, because so long as your house is
or apartment is being entered, you are susceptible to, in addition to being targeted by electronic
weapons, there is a potential for having drugs put in your food. And Im not exaggerating there.
Greg: I had a few targeted individuals I talked to send me some questions that Id like to ask you.
Julianne: Certainly.
Greg: And the one was Are targeted individuals also broadcast around the country via closed circuit
TV? And, What purpose does this serve? Im fully in the dark on this question, but, go ahead.
Julianne: Okay. I have seen evidence of a closed circuit TV and it seems to be some form of
major source of entertainment and perhaps instruction for the individuals participating in
this harassment. I dont know who runs it. I have seen aspects of that on a large screen TV
across the street on which I saw surveillance films of a TI being harassed, obviously, in an
office environment. Gang stalked. Shows brain scans and is otherwise a very sophisticated,
sleek,
communications
operation.
Why
would
it
be
used?
As
said
either
for
entertainment, for creating a sense of unity, or for identifying persons, TIs, who are to be
harassed on the street. I mean, obviously you cant harass someone if you dont know what
that person looks like. So its a means of communicating to the perpetrators, perps, what the
TI looks like.
Greg: Okay, now, before I get to some more, I want to put out that call for people to call. I got a
couple emails. A lot of times Tis dont want to go public. And theyve sent me some emails. I want to
get to one in a minute. But one question I have for you is, how can people gather evidence to support
their beliefs that this is happening to them? Many people will say, well its only a lack of sleep. I mean,
you have a sleep disorder. Maybe theres a problem with your joints, I dont know. It could be anything
that the answers are when you suspect youre being targeted. What kind of evidence do you tell people
to gather to support their beliefs that this is actually happening to them.
Julianne:
Well, when youre gathering evidence, obviously you have an objective in mind and that
generally is legal. What you want to do with that evidence. Theres really nothing you can do with it. So
in the absence of that, the main thing is to try to protect yourself and to alleviate the pain that youre
experiencing. Collecting the evidence, if you were to go to, frankly, Id strongly recommend that you
keep your faculties together and avoid going to see psychiatrists and psychologists, because the pattern
that is evolving is that they are highly complicit of these operations.
And if you go to a medical doctor, you do not talk about it because medical doctors, many, are also
involved. What you do when you see a doctor is that you define your symptoms and get a very clear
statement that, well, we cant figure this out. Well, thats a clear indication that it is not indigenous,
its not part of your system. Its not coming from within you, so obviously something is happening from
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outside. If they prescribe drugs and yet cant find the ecology, the basis for your disease, dont take
those drugs.
Greg:
Now earlier we were talking about the fact that they may, whoevers doing this, youve
delineated, youve led a good course into whatyoure tracking these people. But what I was getting at,
we never got to the point where ifyou mentioned something about a religious group that may be
targeted. What did you mean by that?
Julianne: The way I dont.well let me put it this way. Im not out to start a religious war. I have
found over the years that the persons involved, both in gang stalking.Ive made it a point to get to
know these people. Ive had to necessarily. Im not the type to
Greg: Youre talking about the perpetrators or the targets?
Julianne: The perpetrators.
Greg: Okay
Julianne: As well as theIve been drawing distinctions. And what Ive found is that the perpetrators
appear to belong predominantly to one particular religion; whereas the targeted individuals do not
belong predominantly to that particular religion.
Greg: And what is the particular religion of the perpetrators?
Julianne:
Right. So, at this stage, again, Im not particularly enthused about the idea of starting a
religious war. And I have challenged other TIs to get out there and become acquainted with, and get to
know, the people who are harassing them, to draw those distinctions themselves, because Im not
going to be making brash claims. This is something Ive observed over the past 10 years.
Greg: Thats fair enough. And maybe, perhaps, I could talk to you about it just for my own knowledge
off the air.
Julianne: That would be fine.
Greg: And I will keep your name out of it at that point and let people know what the targeted group
may be and what the other group may be.
Julianne: There is a religious influence but thats not to say these people arent just being used as
puppets by some broader interest.
Greg: Very good point. Can you stick with us one more segment of 5 minutes?
Julianne: Okay.
Greg: Were interviewing Julianne McKinney, our last segment. Juliannes an authority in the use of
surveillance and electronic weaponry. And this is an email question, kind of a technical one from a TI.
Let me read this to you. Perhaps you can answer it. Are the protocols for each individual modified based
to custom tailor it for the specific targeted individual? And if so, how does this process work?
Julianne: Yes indeed they are modified. There is a basic protocol that the perpetrators begin with. But
the TI contributes to the modification. A good example of that would be, if someone. Im trying to
think of a good example. If the TI feels the need to cooperate, even in the most subtle fashion, with the
persons who are harassing him or her, he or she will modify his behavior, in pathlobean condition, which
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alters the protocol. Theyre constantly, targets are constantly monitored, and if they respond
emotionally to a particular trigger, that will be built into the protocol. If the target displays a certain
sense of guilt or embarrassment about a subject, that will be built into the protocol. Its an ongoing
process. And one thing I want to emphasize is no TI should look for a reason as to why this is going on.
Its a serious, serious mistake. I know I did that myself when they started on me and over the years I
came up with probably 6 different excuses.
Greg: Is it still going on with you?
Julianne: Oh yes. Not to the degree that it was before but certainly in very lethal form.
Greg: Now, how has this hampered your life?
Julianne: Its come close to being lethal on a number of occasions. I deal, I dealt with gang stalking
head on and I essentially put that to rest. I deal with.Ive developed a means for communicating with
perps directly and made them feel like the trailer trash that they are. So gang stalking is not one of
their favorite activities in my case. So the primary activity now is to see what I can survive in the way
of an induced brain aneurism or stroke or a heart attack.
Greg: I just had a caller who doesnt want to get on the air but wants to know, does moving help;
moving your location?
Julianne: Running, if youre talking about moving to a completely new location, no. This country is
wired to the hilt for immediate transfer. Your protocol follows you wherever you go so its a waste of
time. Moving about physically in place will not change anything. Other than, if you make a 180 degree
turn you will notice the targeting will suddenly stop because the weapon systems are programmed to
focus on a particular area of your anatomy. So if you turn, the targeting will suddenly end. If you turn
back itll hit you again.
Greg: Interesting. Now, going full circle in the last 2 minutes here, in 1991 you published Microwave
Harassment and Mind Control Experimentation. This has been passed around the internet and over
thousands of domain sites over the past 15 years. Can you tell us how someone can get ahold of this
publication to be informed?
Julianne: Its not copy-writed. All they need to do is plug in my last name, McKinney, and type in the
title Microwave Harassment and Mind Control Experimentation and innumerable sites will appear and
just read it from there. It will give you a good insight into what the pattern is when harassment begins.
Greg:
Now, let me just spell your name for people that are going to do that. Thats MCKINNEY
McKinney. And then its Microwave Harassment and Mind Control Experimentation for an authority in
the field.
I guess since 1981, have you seen.I guess a question I wanted to ask, from 2001, have you seen any,
from the time of 911, has there been an increase in the last 4or 5 years, with this type of, that youve
seen, in the number of people contacting you. Has it been more wide spread since 911?
Julianne: Not since 911. WhenI would say back in the early 90s Ive seen a tremendous expansion
of these activities since the early 1990s. And it has moved forward in consistent fashion. Its become
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ever more sophisticated and ever more wide spread. There was no sudden burst or flurry of activity
since 911.
Greg: And you have no help whatsoever with the political arena in this. Correct? Politicians will not
touch this with a 10 foot pole?
Julianne: Thats right. And even those who purport to be liberally inclined, and Im speaking about
members of the democratic party, will not touch it, because quote unquote, and they know, they know
whats going on. They dont they simply dont have the funds to be able to pursue it. All sorts of
humma humma excuses will be furnished for not pursuing something like this. Before you close.I hear
the music in the background.
Greg: We can stay another minute if you want.
Julianne: Okay.
Greg: Why dont you come back for 2 minutes on the other side of the break and then well finish up.
Okay?
Julianne: Okay.
Greg: Okay, back with Julianne McKinney and 3 minutes on the Investigative Journal. You wanted to
say something at the break.
Julianne: I did. I want to thank you very, very much for taking on this subject. There are so few in the
media, as a matter of fact, youre the only one I know of, who has the guts to address it.
Greg: And you know, it really doesnt just in defense of every other media person. I dont think its
guts, in a sense, maybe it is. I dont consider myself having guts in this issue. I consider it to be an
issue that you need to take time to understand it. And thats what I would recommend to the people in
the media that havent touched this issue. If it isnt being down right censored by someone above you,
at least take the time to talk, Ill spend time talking to you about it. Because it took me a little time to
figure it out. And, Ill tell you what, its people like you that need to be applauded because its your
efforts that are bringing this to the forefront. Youre laying the credibility on the line. But I thank you
anyway for your kind words.
And with that, I wanted to say goodbye to you. And were going to have to move on. And well have you
on again to talk about this. And thank you so much.
Julianne: And thank you so much.
Greg: And that was Julianne McKinney. And she is an authority in the use of electronic weaponry and
microwave weaponry and she was with us for the last hour and a half.
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Dr. Nick Begich Author and Expert Researcher

of Electromagnetic Weapons
Biography
Dr. Nick Begich is the eldest son of the late United States Congressman
from Alaska, Nick Begich Sr., and political activist Pegge Begich. He is well
known in Alaska for his own political activities. He was twice elected
President of both the Alaska Federation of Teachers and the Anchorage
Council of Education. He has been pursuing independent research in the
sciences and politics for most of his adult life. Begich received Doctor of
Medicine (Medicina Alternitiva), honoris causa, for independent work in
health and political science, from The Open International University for
Complementary Medicines, Colombo, Sri Lanka, in November 1994.
He co-authored with
Jeane Manning the
book Angels Don't Play This HAARP; Advances in
Tesla Technology. Begich has also authored Earth
Rising - The Revolution: Toward a Thousand
Years of Peace and and his latest book Earth
Rising II- The Betrayal of Science, Society and
the Soul both with the late James Roderick. His
latest work is Controlling the Human Mind - The
Technologies of Political Control or Tools for Peak
Performance. Begich has published articles in
science, politics and education and is a well
known lecturer, having presented throughout the
United States and in nineteen countries. He has been featured as a guest on thousands of radio
broadcasts reporting on his research activities including new technologies, health and earth science
related issues. He has also appeared on dozens of television documentaries and other programs
throughout the world including BBC-TV, CBC-TV, TeleMundo, and others.
Begich has served as an expert witness and speaker before the European Parliament. He has spoken on
various issues for groups representing citizen concerns, statesmen and elected officials, scientists and
others. He is the publisher and co-owner of Earthpulse Press. He served as Tribal Administrator/Village
Planner for the Chickaloon Village Council, a federally recognized American Indian Tribe of the
Athabascan Indian Nation for five years and served four years as the Executive Director of The Lay
Institute of Technology, Inc. a Texas non-profit corporation. Currently Begich consults for tribal
organizations, private corporations and others in a number of research areas.
Dr. Begich is a single person with five adult children, and four grandchildren.
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Covert Harassment Conference

1-2 October 2015, Berlin, Germany
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Mind Control:
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DR. NICK BEGICH

A Brave New World together with HAARP The Update
DR. BEGICH:
Hello, and thank you for being
here and thank you to Peter and the rest of the team for
putting this together.
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Everyone hears me okay, yes?

Okay.
In the back?
Good.
10
All right.
I want to give a little bit of
11
background in terms of my interest in these areas.
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those that don't know my family story, it really goes
13
back quite a ways.
14
For
My father was in the United States Congress in
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the early 1970s during the Nixon Administration.
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lost in a plane with Hale Boggs.
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remember this if you've got a little bit of gray hair.
18
Hale Boggs was our House majority leader at the time,
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one of the most powerful people in the United States
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Congress.
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strong dislike for J. Edgar Hoover, because he basically
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read everybody's mail, tapped everybody's phones,
23
including the United States Congress, and then,
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essentially, blackmailed political leaders to follow
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whatever script he laid out.
Some of you may
He was also a Warren Commissioner.
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He was
He had a
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Boggs was a pretty outspoken individual.
At
the time -- it was just before the second election of
Richard Nixon -- Boggs came to Alaska to work on my
father's campaign, which would have been his second term
in the United States Congress.
Boggs, before they flew out on October 16th,
three weeks before the second election of Richard Nixon,
began to talk about this scandal brewing in Washington,
DC.
In fact, that very scandal, had it unfolded a
10
little bit differently -- for those that remember, the
11
planes disappeared.
12
Three weeks later, Nixon's elected for his
13
second term.
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the Watergate scandal broke.
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office.
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moved up again.
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Rockefeller then slid into the Vice President's slot.
18
And then one of the old Manson women from the Charles
19
Manson days tried to assassinate Ford, which would have
20
put Rockefeller in the White House.
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It wasn't too much long after that that
Ford moved up.
Agnew was thrown out of
Then Nixon resigned.
Ford
For those that don't remember,
What would have otherwise happened, most
22
likely, the election would have taken place.
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would have won.
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out at the same time.
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controlled the Congress.
Nixon
Agnew and Nixon would have been thrown

The Democrats would have
The Speaker of the House would
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have elevated to the Presidency.
have been in control.
happened and history tells us a lot about what really
happened there.
The Democrats would
But the opposite, of course,
Twenty years later there was a report, an
investigative report by a publication called "Roll Call"
in Washington, DC.
these various Congressional deaths.
crashes are kind of the hazard of political leadership,
10
That report was looking into all of

You know, plane
it seems like.
11
But in researching that, what they found in the
12
FBI files were a couple of telexes -- this goes before
13
FAX machines -- and telexes coming from California into
14
Washington, DC reported that two people had been found
15
at a crash site.
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the FBI to determine whether they were credible.
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follow-up telex came through saying, yes, they were.
18
That plane was never recovered.
19
officially; yet 20 years later, we find out, in fact,
20
there were.
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Those sources were later looked at by

A
There were no survivors
So I know about conspiracies.
Conspiracies are
22
conversations that happen in a room like this when
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there's a bunch of people standing on the outside who
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might not agree with us.
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the political life, even at the highest levels, things
But the reality is, even in
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happen.
Maybe a few decades go by before the truth is finally
revealed.
Things happen that aren't easily explained.
So I have a strong motivation foundationally in
terms of how I approach controversial issues.
do it with fear.
years.
is the absolute adversary for getting anything
accomplished on this planet.
10
I don't
I've been doing this work for over 20
Fear isn't part of the equation.
In fact, that
My interest in these areas started with HAARP.
11
And how many in this room do not know anything about
12
HAARP?
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Okay.
Well, that's a lot better than it used
14
to be.
15
Twenty years of this work and the work of others have
16
kind of brought this into the public.
17
All right.
It used to be the other way around.
So the first image -- I'm going to use HAARP as
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sort of the backdrop as I move into the mind control,
19
mind effects-related technology.
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in my part of the world.
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know if -- maybe I've come the farthest for this
22
presentation.
23
appreciate the opportunity to inform people about this
24
subject.
25
This is just an image
I come from Alaska.
I don't
But I appreciate being here and I
So HAARP is a large array, a field of antennas
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in Alaska, currently 180 antennas.
They're
approximately 20 meters tall.
which you can see, which is the very top of these
antennas.
concentrate radiofrequency energy into a relatively
small space.
They have a cross dipole,
And what these are designed to do is focus or
If you think about the energy of a flashlight,
for instance, or a torch, as they say here in Europe, I
shine that against the wall, the beam starts out small,
10
and then it broadens as you get further away from the
11
source.
12
The same is true with radiofrequency energy.
13
You can think about it as an inverted funnel starting
14
here at the transmitter and then spreading out and
15
getting thinner and thinner, less dense, which is why
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the further you get away from radio broadcast antennas,
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the weaker and weaker the signal.
18
With HAARP, the opposite occurs.
They have
19
figured out a way through what's called cyclotron
20
resonance, which would be focusing or concentrating the
21
energy.
22
like sort of a cork-screwing kind of motion that got
23
smaller and smaller as you move further and further away
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from the transmitter.
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So if you could visualize it, it would look
So it concentrates that energy or focuses that
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energy so you can manipulate it in various ways.
the HAARP array, which was originally designed by a
gentleman, Bernard Eastlund, who's now deceased, was
intended to do a number of things as a weapons
application.
half the current size of the transmitter in Alaska.
can see the field of antennas.
90 antennas in the array.
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10
And so
This is the earlier version when it was

You
In this case there were
And here's another image as they expanded the

array to 180.
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And another image showing the array.
Now, they also upgraded the technology pretty
12
substantially over the years.
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efficient.
14
much bigger effects.
15
So it became much more
So with a much smaller system you create
So what does it do?
Essentially, it's sending
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energy or focusing energy up into an area known as the
17
ionosphere, which in this image in miles -- I apologize
18
for that -- is approximately 37 miles to 620 miles out
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into space.
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Now, this is a highly energized area.
If you
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think about radiofrequency signals or shortwave signals,
22
they would come from the earth, they'd bounce off of us,
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and then bounce back down to the earth to transmit over
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large distances.
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The ionosphere also is an area that can be
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disturbed by solar radiation, radiation from the sun.
When it becomes destabilized, it interferes with
terrestrial communications of every kind.
So part of the idea in this technology was to
learn how to stabilize the ionosphere during these
periods or deliberately disrupt the ionosphere to
interfere with communications on a global basis.
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9
Now, what caught my interest when I first

looked at this issue of HAARP was a very short article
10
in a publication, an Australian publication, that talked
11
about this big system in Alaska.
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Now, I come from a family that's pretty
13
politically engaged.
14
Congress, my younger brother just finished a term in the
15
United States Senate.
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politics a very long time.
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Besides my dad being in the
My family's been involved in
Alaska is a very big region, but we're a really
18
small population; 700,000 people in our entire region.
19
And when you think about big projects, you know, you
20
think you know something about them.
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Well, I'm reading about this project in my
22
state in a journal in Australia and I'm going, you know,
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why doesn't anybody know about this?
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And so I decided I would go in and look into

this issue independently.
And I did.
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I picked up maybe
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30 articles and papers, design specifications, some
things, and with friends encouraging me to publish, I
published the first article that I had written on HAARP
back in 1994.
So it's been a very long time ago.
What also caught my interest was the idea that
they were primarily utilizing, in some applications,
extremely low frequency signals or ELFs.
signals that can be biologically active, can affect us
as human beings and in very specific ways.
10
These are
And in particular, certain applications of the
11
technology -- and this gives you sort of a graphic
12
illustration of the focus.
13
were given to me by the inventor, Bernard Eastlund,
14
prior to his passing.
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publications and in some of our work.
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kind of a graphic showing the radiofrequency from the
17
array, moving up into the ionosphere and focusing that
18
energy.
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These view graphs, actually,
And we utilized them in our

So this gives you
His initial concept was to create a global
20
shield, to be able to utilize the natural magnetic field
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lines that surround the earth, be able to punch energy
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into this and then create this kind of global shielding
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effect.
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piercing that energy would be disrupted, like
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satellites, intercontinental ballistic missiles,
And the idea was that any electronic device
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virtually any electronic device that ran into this field
of energy that was being amplified would be destroyed.
Now, one of the other interesting parts of
this -- and this kind of shows that, again, utilizing
one of Eastlund's graphics.
line and then you see this cork-screwing energy going
around it.
southern polar regions into the northern polar regions.
And, in this case, they actually couple -- actually
10
utilize the energy on the ground to couple with the
11
natural energy, and then coming from the north to the
12
south, create this cork-screwing effect, which
13
accelerates the electrons and then creates this global
14
shield.
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So you can see like a field
That energy naturally is occurring from the
Now, that was his initial concept.
And as a
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concept, it caught the attention of a number of people
17
and eventually got funding from the Congress, initially
18
at 30 million, and over the last few decades now over
19
almost 300 million, which in dollars is not a lot of
20
money, but when you consider, this is sort of the
21
pinnacle of billions of dollars spent in ionosphere
22
research over many decades.
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What caught my attention in terms of the
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technology of Eastlund -- I'm going to skip some of
25
these that are not so relevant -- was the idea that you
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could manipulate the ionosphere -- and I'll use this as
a better example.
you could punch or pulse energy into the ionosphere --
so think about this energy going up and, like, a hammer
ringing a bell.
ionosphere itself vibrates and then it begins to send a
signal in the ELF range.
signal going up, punching the ionosphere, the ionosphere
which is energized then acts as a broadcast antenna in
So one of the thoughts was that if
Every time it hits that ionosphere, the
So you have a high frequency
10
the sky bringing back an ELF signal to the earth, and in
11
this case covering an entire hemisphere.
12
Now, ELF signals, extremely low frequency
13
signals, are very long wavelengths.
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earth and sea.
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submarines, as an example, the depth, because short
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wavelengths won't penetrate the earth and sea.
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also used for what's called earth-penetrating
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tomography, which in simple language or by analogy would
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be like x-raying the earth or looking into the earth for
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underground structures.
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They penetrate the
They're utilized for communication with
They're
But one of the side effects of ELF is the
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entrainment effect on the human mind.
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signals will lock onto in what's called a frequency
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following response.
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techniques to create a frequency following response.
Because ELF
And you can use a lot of different
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You can use flickering light, you can use binaural beat,
which I'll explain in a few minutes.
electromagnetic fields such as this, or even the power
grid itself can be modulated in such a way to create a
signal that the human body will join with, will couple
with, and begin to follow.
of energy to accomplish this.
You can use
It doesn't take a great deal
This is the one that triggered my real interest
in HAARP, because this is the one that everybody kind of
10
ignored and said, oh.
11
well, if ELF has a biological effect, it's a side
12
effect.
13
phrase earlier today.
14
believe that it's an intended consequence.
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intended to grade populations in very specific ways.
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In fact, the HAARP planners said,
It's an unintended consequence.
We heard that
But I don't believe that.
It's
Now, this book was mentioned by my friend
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earlier today, "Between Two Ages", by Zbigniew
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Brzezinski.
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written, actually, in 1973, when Brzezinski was at
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Columbia University.
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Security Adviser to President Carter.
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the time that Kissinger and he and others were starting
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to think about the Trilateral Commission organizing this
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think tank, so to speak.
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And why this is an important book, it was
This is before he became National
Now, find this book.
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This is around
I really encourage you to
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find this book and read it, because it is not a
prediction of what will come with technology.
blueprint, in fact.
It's the
You can read this.
When I first read it -- he writes in a pretty
convoluted style.
English to understand.
read it because he predicted the economic changes that
took place, the political changes that took place in the
world over the last 40 years with a great deal of
10
accuracy.
11
prediction.
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It's a little difficult even in

But I really encourage you to
And some will say it really wasn't the

It was the plan.
If you look within this text between Pages 54
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and 56, you'll see a section that's dedicated to the
14
kind of technologies we're talking about today, a mind
15
control technology.
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guy named J. F. Gordon MacDonald.
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geophysicist at UCL.
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chapter in a book and the chapter was called, "How to
19
Wreck Your Environment", which this is before Earth Day,
20
okay, so he could get away with that.
21
that book was actually published.
22
caught Zbigniew Brzezinski's attention was, he said, if
23
we could ever figure out how to electronically stroke
24
the ionosphere in just the right way, we could return a
25
signal to the earth that would influence the behavior of
And what Zbigniew referenced was a

And he was a
He wrote a book -- or, actually, a
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It was 1969 when
But what he said that
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people over huge geographic areas.
Now, that's a pretty profound thing.
But we
didn't have a way to stroke the ionosphere in 1969.
we did by the 1990s.
fact, the HAARP system that can accomplish this.
But
And that was, in fact, and is, in
So the idea was -- and it was kind of, in a
gross sort of way, primitive, if you will, but what the
intention was, was that if you could pulse the
ionosphere, return this ELF signal to the earth, you
10
could agitate the population in very specific ways.
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could make them passive, less aggressive, or the
12
opposite by just amplifying that signal.
13
explain a little bit of that as we go on.
You
And I'll
14
The other person that comes out in the last
15
presentations, Jose Delgado, and this book he wrote,
16
"Physical Control of the Mind:
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Society".
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images that you saw in just this short video clip of
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Delgado's work, there is a good section in this text as
20
well showing that.
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Toward a Psychocivilized
And this is, again, a 1960s book.
Those
But in those days they used implants.
They had
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to physically put something in the brain.
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Delgado originally did -- he was actually educated in
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electrophysiology at the University of Madrid.
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graduated in 1950.
And what Jose
He
Electrophysiology, as a degree
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field, thinking about it in 1950, now 65 years ago, most
people don't even realize that's an area of higher
education today, much less that far back.
One of my mentors, Raul Makayla (phonetic), he
actually graduated University of Madrid in 1958, and his
area of interest was, essentially, the same, biomagnetic
and electric fields, effects on human physiology, and he
spent his career studying that.
Delgado, at Yale University, he initially was
10
mapping the brain of primates and humans by stimulating
11
various portions of the brain to figure out what was
12
responsible for what kind of activity.
13
began to utilize the implants in those dramatic ways in
14
those film clips with the charging bull and he throws
15
the switch and the bull stops, to demonstrate that you
16
could take a creature from passive to highly aggressive
17
to passive to highly aggressive, just like flipping on
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and off the lights in your living room.
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And then he
What Delgado discovered by the mid-'80s is that
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you didn't need any implants.
You just needed to
21
manipulate the energy itself.
And you didn't need a
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great deal of energy.
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Now, we've heard -- I forget the amount of
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energy surrounding us now.
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believe it was 18 zeros after the one that we heard
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earlier.
radiofrequency energy alone, it was 200 million times
more around us every day than nature created in 1994.
Back when I wrote the HAARP book in '94, just
Now, when you think about it, what did Delgado
discover?
of energy in the natural background noise of the earth
was sufficient to manipulate the behavior of human
beings if you could hit the right frequencies, if you
could hit those window frequencies that stimulated that
10
He discovered that one-fiftieth of the amount
kind of activity.
11
Now, if you think about this -- again, by
12
analogy, think about dialing through the radio stations
13
on a radio.
14
noise, the static, you get no clear signal.
15
you have resonance between the transmitter and the
16
receiver, then you get a nice, clear signal.
17
The same is true in our physiology.
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you're looking at stimulating or affecting a specific
19
element in the body, molecules in the body, cell
20
structures or organ structures or even the human mind,
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it's about manipulating the underlying energy.
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In between the stations you get the white

But when
Whether
When you think about medical science in terms
23
of how the fork in the road is and how this kind of
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applies to why don't we know more about this today,
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well, there's lots of literature now.
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think we heard quoted earlier today.
25,000 sources
talking about the energy interactions with the human
body.
That is a lot of information.
But what happened in medical science?
A lot of
people that went into life sciences, they were really
good in the chemistry, a little weak in the math, so
they went to life sciences.
better in the math, they went to physics.
upon a time, these two came together and we got
People who were a little

And then once
10
biophysics, which is really the root of real health
11
science.
12
you've got to get to the energetic interactions that
13
create chemical reactions that then manifest in the
14
body.
15
If you really want to get to the meat of it,
And that's what we kind of miss in so much of
16
our medicine.
17
opposed to an electromagnetic model.
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to World War II, that fork in the road was being
19
explored pretty aggressively, the energetic models.
20
they were somehow lost in that shuffle and we ended up
21
with the pharmaceutical industry, and the results of
22
that, I think we can all not be quite so proud of.
23
We followed a pharmaceutical model as

In the '30s, prior
But
In terms of where the technology is going and
24
where a lot of the science is going, it will be
25
electromedicine that cures most of what we call
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incurable.
debilitates human consciousness itself.
It will also be that which enhances or
Now, Jose Delgado, when he figured out that you
didn't need implants, you just need to manipulate the
energy itself, this became kind of the essence of sort
of where everything went from there.
But I want to roll back a little bit, a little
bit back in time, and talk more about the evolution of
mind control as technology starting with the work at
10
Harvard University of a gentleman, Estabrook, who was
11
working in the Harvard hypnotherapy labs in the 1920s.
12
You can look Estabrook up.
13
of Congress and you'll see his list of publications, and
14
I recommend that you do that.
15
Look him up at the Library
What he decided was that you could create what
16
we would call today a Manchurian candidate.
17
take certain individuals, put them in a very, very deep
18
state of hypnosis and then over a period of time train
19
them so they would be like this super spy that you could
20
send into another country and they'd hang out for a year
21
or two, but if they got captured, they wouldn't really
22
remember any of their former self, and then when they
23
came back, in this case, into the United States, that we
24
would then give them the appropriate suggestions and
25
then extract the intelligence from them.
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And this is what Estabrook was working on.
By
the 1930s, a lot of his work was being classified and he
continued to work in this field up through the 1960s.
His last book -- and I always like to read the last
thing someone writes, you know, because it tells you a
lot about, sort of, the conclusions and there are things
that you might discard bits and pieces as science
enlightens you and your experience enlightens you.
what he talked about in that last book were the
10
experiments he was involved in using LSD and other
11
hallucinogenics in mind control, which he actually
12
talked about in a favorable sense.
13
And
And for those of you that remember, the CIA was
14
heavily involved in this in the 1960s and, in fact, the
15
whole area pre-1960s going back even to the Korean War,
16
which is sort of my next mark on the timeline.
17
The Korean War, we had prisoners, patriotic
18
young Americans come back from war and they're handing
19
out Communist leaflets on street corners, and the term
20
or the phrase brainwashing came into being.
21
where it came from.
22
after the Korean War.
23
That's
It came from that series of events
The idea of being able to manipulate people's
24
behavior and change them so profoundly became of
25
interest to the predecessor of the Central Intelligence
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Agency and then later the Central Intelligence Agency.
And what they looked at were lots of different ways to
manipulate human behavior.
Now, when I was researching my first book with
Jeane Manning, "Angels Don't Play This HAARP", I was
looking for a good source document that would speak to
this, because you always read about this in secondary,
tertiary sources.
surplus book room, and I'm telling this guy that I know,
And so I'm in a book room, a big
10
I really need this source.
11
conversation, I reach unconsciously behind me into a box
12
and I pull out this book.
13
And as I'm having this
This is a really interesting one.
This is
14
actually a presidential report.
15
was commissioned at the time, 1975, to look at the
16
abuses of the CIA.
17
Committee reports, which were Congressional hearings
18
that took place in the early '70s to investigate the
19
abuses of the Central Intelligence Agency, the kind of
20
abuses that we read about today, because nothing really
21
changed.
22
This is a report that
Now, this came out of the Church
Supposedly, this was to change things.

Now, what's in this report?
The LSD
23
experiments were in this report.
24
Intelligence Agency was domestically infiltrating civil
25
rights groups, antiwar groups, people that, essentially,
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opposed the government within the United States, which
was not part of their mandate, in fact, was illegal.
The fact that they were reading people's mail, utilizing
unwitting victims and experiments for mind control.
of this came out in this report in 1975.
CIA continues to do it even to this day.
All
And yet, the
Think about the kinds of activities that have
been reported pretty widely over the last few years,
whether it's digging through garbage to blackmail other
10
diplomats, which is something our Intelligence community
11
does, whether it's to send pallet loads of money into
12
countries like we did in Afghanistan to bribe officials
13
as a way of doing business, or whether it's to
14
assassinate people with drones, kidnap people and
15
torture them.
16
Now, most of us don't know people like this,
17
but this is the government that I unfortunately have
18
guiding my country right now.
19
criminals.
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couldn't happen here.
21
It's a government of
Now, people want to talk about, oh, this
It has happened here.
It's happened for
22
decades in the United States.
23
President's Commission touches the very tip of that
24
iceberg.
25
This report by the
This is another document.
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This is -- this guy,
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1
Captain Tyler, he later became a colonel and retired.
He was involved in pretty much the sort of esoteric side
of some of the government research.
chapter out of this book is called, "Low-Intensity
Conflict and Modern Technology".
Maxwell Air Force Base in 1984.
about a large -- a variety of technologies.
8
9
This book -- this
It was prepared by
And it was talking
But in this particular one, if you look at,

certainly, the subject lines, you have stimulation of ,
10
bones* generation, healing of fractures, treatment of
11
disease, healing of wounds.
12
modification in animals.
13
that are listed here were kind of under the mysterious
14
category.
15
happening in 1984.
16
You look at behavior
You know, some of these things
They couldn't really explain what was
But the idea was to stimulate research in these
17
fields.
18
started to flow into these areas.
19
that came out in the 1980s as a result of some of this
20
was the Radiofrequency Dosimetry Handbook.
21
big, thick handbook.
22
of Utah under contract to the United States Air Force to
23
determine the radiofrequency dosages that were required
24
to override every vital organ of the human body, whether
25
it be the heart, the liver, the lungs, the kidneys, just
So a number of things happened.
A lot of money
One of the reports
It was a
It was produced by the University
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sort of preempt their natural function to be able to do
it remotely.
And the idea was to take that leap of
technology and begin to apply it into weapon systems.
Mind control.
you will remember this one.
Yeah, 2002.
about the ethics of mind control.
it exist or doesn't it exist?
"The Economist".
Cover story.
Some of
This is 2002, I believe.
And what this cover story was about was

Not saying, hey, does
It's just saying it's
10
here right now.
11
we should advance this technology, whether we should
12
limit this technology.
13
credible publication.
14
story.
15
We really need to be debating whether
"The Economist" is certainly a

Not too much happened from this
This is -- unfortunately, it's not showing up.
16
November -- you can get this one on my website.
17
give you my website, because this is a very important
18
document.
19
human experiments.
20
in history, that's like tomorrow and yesterday, right?
21
It's, like, now.
22
mind control experiments and who has the authority to
23
approve them.
24
approve them is under secretaries of the Navy in the
25
case of Navy Intelligence or Naval research.
I'll
The Navy set up a new set of regulations for

It was approved in 2006.
You know,
And in this they specifically call out
And the persons with the authority to
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Now, it's not just CIA.
Naval Intelligence
does this work.
non-lethal weapons that this falls under.
has the electromagnetic directorate, which is working in
an area called controlled effects, which deal, again,
with mind control and physiological effects on human
beings.
"Technology Horizons".
issue.
10
The Marines have a section on

The Air Force
In fact, they publish a publication called

I believe it's the June 2004
You can look it up.
The cover story is on
controlled effects.
11
Now, what are controlled effects?
The first
12
effect is attacking hardware; you know, like equipment,
13
like machines, to be able to interfere with the flow of
14
electrons through circuits to disrupt those machines to
15
operate.
16
history, but using energy itself to manipulate hardware.
17
Not using bombs and bullets and the things of
The second sort of level of controlled effects
18
talked about in that article is the idea of manipulating
19
the software, the systems that run those systems, so
20
that you can disrupt the software, then you disrupt the
21
hardware, and things collapse.
22
And the third leg of controlled effects is the
23
human operator.
24
article produced by the electromagnetic director of the
25
Air Force is that we can target or create the illusion
And what they say in this particular
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of all of the senses in the human body; sight, sound,
touch, taste, to give people complete memory sets,
complete experiential sets that you wouldn't be able to
distinguish the synthetic from the real.
Now, think about that for a moment.
What does
that do to court testimony in 20 years if this becomes
the norm?
post-traumatic stress syndrome folks, people coming back
from warfare.
They're now talking about using this for
This just sort of cleans up the garbage
10
of the mind and gets rid of that stress.
11
think that's a great idea.
12
the biggest mistake we could ever make.
13
whatever those servicemen and women were engaged in --
14
what used to happen in warfare -- what happened in World
15
War II when everybody came back, they said, I don't ever
16
want to see my children in these things, I don't want to
17
see my grandchildren in these things.
18
put down, not amplified.
19
Some people
Personally, I think that's

Because
Wars need to be
When you take the human factor out of warfare
20
and it becomes like a videogame, then our willingness to
21
withdraw from direct conflict no longer happens.
22
And think about where our military science has
23
gone.
24
publication.
25
in the early 1980s.
In fact, I want to mention another very important

It was produced by the US Army War College
It's called the "Revolution of
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Military Affairs and Conflict Short of War".
particular paper was talking about revolution of
military affairs.
And this
What is that exactly?
This is a leap as important as the introduction
of gunpowder in the middle ages in Europe, as important
as atomic weapons in the last century.
they characterize it.
where we move from ordinance, from bullets, bombs,
things that rip tissue and tear things up, to
And that's how
And what this is is the leap
10
electromagnetic weapon systems that keep sort of the
11
hardware intact, but debilitate the human operator to
12
the point of being combat ineffective.
13
enhance the possibilities within our own combatants
14
while degrading the abilities of others.
15
Or conversely,
There's simple ways that you can achieve this.
16
You can introduce to the battlefield certain elemental
17
compounds that in small background amounts would not be
18
considered dangerous.
19
example.
20
body to maintain thyroid function.
21
much iodine, you'll get poisoned.
22
get sick.
23
Let me give you iodine as an
We all need a certain amount of iodine in the
So what can you do?
But if you have too

You'll die.
You'll
You can send a signal in
24
that resonates the very same signal strength and
25
frequency as iodine, you can send that signal in and the
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body will begin to react as if its gotten this massive
load of iodine and show all the symptoms of iodine
poisoning.
You check the thyroid; check the blood, it's
not there.
Mystery illness.
Something as simple as that for manipulating
large populations, not necessarily with their consent
and not necessarily with clear knowledge, and nothing
shows up in the background that would say why this
poison actually exists that would account for this.
10
simple way.
11
One of the other ways that this technology can
12
be exploited is really quite simple.
13
article produced by "Parameters", which is a military
14
publication.
15
the -- I believe it was the Fall 1998, but you can look
16
up the article name called, "The Mind has no Firewall".
17
It's a very important article.
18
about all the various ways in which you could introduce
19
mind effects or mind control technologies using modern
20
technology today.
21
written in a military journal called "Orienteer"
22
published in what is now Russia.
23
"Parameters".
There was an
You can look it up.
It's
This article talked
And the original article was actually
What's interesting about this is it said you
24
could use any electromagnetic carrier, whether it be
25
radio, TV, the Internet, now cell phones; but,
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essentially, any of these carriers, you can modulate a
signal on them that will manipulate behavior of segments
of the population.
And the Russians demonstrated this in a couple
of different ways.
There was a program.
It was called
"Undercurrents".
Canadian Public Broadcasting System.
did two really interesting stories that I got to
participate in.
It aired in the CBC, which is the

"Undercurrents"
One was on HAARP and the other was on
10
mind control.
And on the mind control story that they
11
did -- this was a very popular program in Canada at the
12
time and this particular segment was their highest rated
13
that they had ever run.
14
who were involved in the "Star Wars" initiative during
15
the Reagan Administration that couldn't talk about what
16
they did in the White House, but they could talk about
17
what they observed in Russia.
And they had folks that came in
18
And one of the things that they talked about
19
was the idea that you could -- you could create, sort
20
of, this white noise and on this white noise carry a
21
signal.
22
cake.
23
these little cakes?
24
of Europe as well.
25
And so they put out this message, bring us

And Russians at tea time, you know, they eat
I guess you do that in other parts
And so at the appointed time they began to
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broadcast this.
and on the street were bringing cake into the meeting
room without really knowing why they were doing it.
They just felt like doing it.
what they were programmed to do.
And workers from within that building
Now, this goes back.
Well, that was, in fact,
We're talking about
15-year-old technology.
And when you think about sort
of where did it go from there, in 2006, there were a
couple contracts left by DARPA, which does research for
10
the defense industry in the United States.
And DARPA
11
used to be run by a guy named Tony Tether.
Tony Tether
12
was a good friend of Ben Eastlund's.
13
Now, what they were doing then was, they had
14
left two contracts to the University of California for
15
what's called electronic telepathy.
16
telepathy.
17
a distance by analyzing the emanations coming from this
18
area, being able to analyze that and determine and
19
interpret what it is.
20
contract was to create complex signals to see if you
21
could transfer that array, so to speak, of signals into
22
another person's consciousness and whether they would
23
perceive the same images.
24
25
Okay.
Electronic
The idea of reading another person's mind at
And then the other half of the
Now, there was work done by Elizabeth Rauscher

and her late husband, Bill Van Bise, in this very same
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area.
In fact, I have a copy of their unpublished paper
where they actually built an electronic circuit where
they could take a person in one room and a person in
another room, attach this person to that circuit and
this person to that circuit, and then, you know, the
psychic card where they show the triangles, the squares
and the circles and the little squiggly lines, a hundred
percent accurate with nine test subjects who had never
experienced consciously in any way any sense of
10
extrasensory perceptions or psychic perceptions.
11
did it with hardware, transferring thoughts from one to
12
the other.
13
They
Now -- which tells me it's probably a little
14
more simple than what DARPA's doing.
15
Eastlund was doing work on HAARP and he was doing other
16
work for DARPA at the time and we had talked about him
17
in our first publication, and then actually after
18
publication became friends, and Ben Eastlund's attitude
19
was, you know, some things just shouldn't be done.
20
one of the things that he had been working on was
21
whether modification technologies, which he was at that
22
time and when we first met, making that technology
23
available to the military.
24
us and others, he decided there's certain technologies
25
that are not safe in the hands of military.
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And
And after some dialogue with
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At one point along the course I began doing
quite a bit of work on this whole mind effects issue.
And I caught the attention of a woman, Dorothy Lay.
Now, Dorothy is one of the heirs to the Lay, as in
Frito-Lay and PepsiCo Corporation.
family.
specifically as it applied to victims.
So a very wealthy
Dorothy was very interested in this technology
And so she approached me at one point and asked
if I would become a member of her board of directors for
10
a non-profit that she was setting up to deal with these
11
kinds of technologies.
12
whether I should tell you the rest of this story, and I
13
think I will, because why not?
14
And I've got to think about
So I have this thing, intuition.
All of us
15
have it.
16
do today.
17
listen, because when I really think about it, it's never
18
been wrong.
19
about it.
20
start acting on it.
21
I used to not pay as much attention to it as I

When my intuition tells me something, I
Neither has yours, if you really think

Or maybe you don't think about it and just
So my intuition said -- and this was a very
22
difficult time for me in 2002.
23
betrayed by a very good friend, economically was
24
bankrupt in the middle of this work, because I started
25
this work in '94.
In 2002, I had been
Economically was being crushed.
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at that point I was deciding whether I was going to stay
in this work at all.
And I'm going through a bunch of my files and I
see this file and it's marked Lay.
person had contacted us needing some information and we
provided it.
way we operated is, I sold books.
bought my books.
And I remember this
And we never charge for that.
I mean, the
And people like you
And they allowed me to do this work.
I didn't write for grants where somebody could
10
manipulate me and control me and tell me what to say.
11
didn't go out and find some publisher that would edit
12
out my work.
13
book.
14
that work by buying that book.
15
two and a half million dollars and I spent that two and
16
a half million dollars over 20 years doing what I'm
17
doing right now.
I risked my own money.
I published my
And then I asked people to help me by supporting
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A VOICE:
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(Applause.)
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DR. BEGICH:
And I tell you, I made
Thank you.
And the whole idea was just to
21
educate.
22
reason I didn't was because I felt that that was putting
23
the cart before the horse.
24
people that the technology is real, that this could
25
really happen to people and from that foundation, and
I didn't deal with victims.
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And the
We first need to educate
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that became the foundation of my work in this.
So Dorothy calls me on the phone and she says,
will you be on my board?
an hour.
on your board.
And I talked to her for about
At the end of the hour, I said, no, I can't be
She said, well, why not?
I said, because my intuition is telling me I
really can't be on your board.
And she goes, well, I deserve more than that.
10
I said, okay.
I don't know your board members,
11
I don't know who your board is, but something in here is
12
saying there's a problem there and I don't want to be
13
associated with them.
14
(Applause.)
15
DR. BEGICH:
16
I got the call back.
17
you have millions.
18
what they say they're doing.
19
being done and find out for yourself.
20
diligence again.
21
So it was a couple of months later

Because I told her also, I said,
You have the ability.
And she did.
Go see if it's really
back and she said, you were right.
23
me a number of ways.
24
just me now and my attorney.
Do your due
A couple months later she came
22
25
Go research
They were defrauding
I've cleared out my board.
It's
Will you be on my board?
Now, bear in mind, I'm in a pretty desperate
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situation economically.
At the time I have five
children at home.
have an economy that I've got to manage.
Dorothy, no, I can't be on your board.
I've got people to take care of.

And I tell
She says, well, why not?
I said, well, I need to meet you first in
person, eyeball to eyeball.
for three days.
foundation.
I said, we're going to talk
We're not going to talk about your
I want to know everything I'm ever going to
10
read about you and your family in the newspaper.
11
you to have the same knowledge level of me.
12
to know what your world view is before I join with you
13
in achieving that world view, because you have the means
14
and I have the willingness if that world view is shared.
15
So we spent a few days.
I want
And I want
We decided that I
16
could do this.
17
And we put together, as her major effort was, a
18
conference on mind effects.
19
public.
20
bring some key people together to have a conversation
21
that would be open and free.
22
And for four years I worked with her.
But it wasn't open to the
It was closed to the public.
And it was to
And one of those people I invited was Ben
23
Eastlund, who by then I'd gotten to know, had watched
24
what he had done in terms of his career.
25
connected with DARPA at the time.
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And I called him and I said, you know, Ben,
would you consider participating in this conference?
And he said, you know, if you had asked me this
seven or eight years ago, on a scale of one to ten, ten
being the relevance and importance of this, and one
being irrelevant and unimportant, I would have given
this a one or a two.
time I talk to Tony Tether or others at DARPA, nobody's
laughing about mind control anymore and it's a nine or a
10
He goes, but -- he goes, every
ten and, yes, I'll participate in your conference.
11
The next person I asked was Garth Nicolson.
12
Does that name ring any bells for anybody?
13
Nicolson was a full professor, I believe it was Texas
14
A&M.
15
thousand medical students.
16
whistle on Gulf War Syndrome and testified in our
17
Congress six times before his wife was fired as a
18
molecular biologist from Texas A&M.
19
they couldn't fire him.
20
him, because he was one of the first courageously enough
21
to step up to the plate and complain about what had been
22
happening in the Gulf War; we depleted uranium and some
23
of the other technologies that were being applied there.
24
25
He taught medical students.
Okay.
Garth
He taught over a
He was the guy that blew the
And he was tenured;
But they definitely harassed
Well, the best thing that ever happened to him

was he got out of the university system.
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nonprofit to deal with chronic disease.
somebody that I watched maintain his course under really
difficult circumstances.
conference.
And he was
So he was invited to that
I invited the daughter of my mentor, Raul
Makayla.
one of the boards in Russia that regulates medical
applications of lasers.
Quite brilliant.
10
She's an electrophysiologist.
She serves on
She's an electrophysiologist.
We invited her.
We invited Rosalie Bertell.
11
remember Rosalie Bertell?
12
passed.
13
physicist, biologist.
14
doctoral students at Berkeley.
15
It's kind of an odd combination.
16
statistician to go in to Bhopal for the World Health
17
Organization after that huge chemical disaster.
18
was considered one of the top people in the world for
19
dealing with victims of radiological experiments,
20
including electromagnetic radiation.
21
some of our work and added to it and published a book on
22
the HAARP system and its effect on human beings on this
23
sort of broad scale.
24
been through some really difficult times as well, rose
25
out of her own ashes and maintained her ethical
Okay.
Does anyone
Also deceased now.
A few.
Rosalie's
She was a mathematician,
She taught higher mathematics to

She was also a nun.
She was the lead
But she
She actually took
So we had invited Rosalie, who had
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platform.
The other person we invited was Alexander
Kaivarainen.
Does anybody recognize that name?
He was
the former head of the USSR Academy of Science
Biophysics Department for ten years.
area that really gets into the meat of what we're
talking about here today.
believe, is deceased now also.
guys, you know, they're a lot older than me and they
And this is the
Now, what got -- Alex, I

You know, all these
10
keep dying of old age.
11
science at a young age watching a demonstration of the
12
paranormal, ESP, telepathy, these kinds of things in
13
Russia when he was a teenager.
14
caught his interest.
15
But Alex got his stimulation in
And it just really
When I met Alex, he was in his 60s and he was
16
the brightest top five physicists on the planet,
17
recognized by institutions around the world.
18
he had determined is that there were rational reasons
19
for why these things manifested.
20
this conference and actually presented a paper giving
21
the mathematics and the physics that lends itself to
22
these extrasensory possibilities, these things that the
23
military now calls anomalous human capabilities.
24
used to call it extrasensory perception or ESP, but now
25
they give it a new name because there's a lot of
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So he was invited to
We
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connotations with that that kind of get you discredited
in certain segments of the scientific community.
So I want to talk -- roll back again a little
bit -- I want to talk about binaural beat, which I had
mentioned earlier in this presentation.
around a little bit.
not even use these things, but I think people feel more
comfortable using them.
And I jump
It's kind of my style.
The binaural beat.
I used to
We can't hear these really,
10
really low frequency signals, because the human ear
11
doesn't quite work that way.
12
the human ear won't hear.
Below a certain frequency,
13
Now, a gentleman by the name of Robert Monroe
14
developed a method using binaural beat where you could
15
send in a signal within the range of human hearing, say,
16
at 15,000 Hertz or pulses per second or cycles per
17
second, coming in one ear at, say, 15,000, another
18
signal coming in the other ear at, say, 15,007.
19
the cranium they will cancel each other out and leave a
20
beat frequency of seven, the difference between the two.
21
15,000, 15,007.
22
seven pulses per second, which happens to be in the
23
upper Theta range, and this is where the brain then
24
drives to.
25
Within
The beat frequency becomes seven Hertz,
At the same time that that occurs, you get a
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hemispheric balance, a distribution of energy across
both hemispheres of the brain, the analytical side and
the creative side and working together.
actually how human beings are supposed to function.
This is how young children predominantly function, with
more of a balance between the hemispheres, where the
energy is more balanced.
8
9
This is
And then we educate them.
And with young girls, who we say are more

intuitive and have this other operation of the brain,
10
and young boys are more analytical, and now we kind of
11
treat everybody the same so we kind of dumb them all
12
down to the same level.
13
children and you look at where their brain activity is
14
and between 3 and, say, 5 or 6 years old, they have
15
this predominant brain frequencies or a lot of Theta
16
brain frequencies coming in and then some ELF and then
17
higher frequency ranges.
18
But when you look at young
Now, what is Theta?
Theta states if we're in a
19
Theta state, we're kind of like in that dream-like state
20
between awake and asleep where you're consciously aware
21
of your dreams.
22
good deal of their time.
23
as we call it, are so active.
24
don't pay attention to that, don't pay attention to
25
that.
That's where 3 to 5 year olds spend a

That's why their imaginations,
And we keep saying, oh,
This was our first attempt to shut down the
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intuitive combinations of the way the brain is actually
supposed to work.
In fact, for those who have a Christian
background, you know Jesus Christ himself said, look at
the little children, watch what they do.
think I heard somebody say something about this earlier,
little children come to the table kind of innocent with
a view of the world that's quite different than the rest
of ours.
You know, I
But the brain activity of children is unique
10
and we begin to take that out of them in the structure
11
of the way we educate.
12
So what Robert Monroe -- he was actually a
13
radio engineer.
14
had this really weird experience.
15
body experience, that he had that kind of threw him.
16
You know, it didn't make any sense to him.
17
began -- he also noticed that in the background there
18
was this kind of noise that he perceived.
19
He owned a bunch of radio stations.
He
It's an OBE, an outer
So he
So he began to experiment and he created this
20
technique for binaural beat.
21
series.
22
binaural beat.
23
those US patents from 1994, and this is showing the
24
brain before the activity, before turning on the
25
Hemi-Sync, and this is after, showing a more even
He developed a whole
In fact, he actually got US patents on a

This is an image taken out of one of
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distribution in a more rhythmic pattern in the
brainwaves as you see in the upper right-hand corner.
Let me roll back again so you can kind of see
the comparison.
activities happening all through the brain, and then a
coherent signal creating a hemispheric balance and an
optimization of brain potential.
8
9
Normal brain, kind of disorganized
So what did he do with this?
He developed a
whole series of things; audio input technology,
10
essentially, to manipulate behavior, but where you're in
11
control of that manipulation.
12
smoking, you get his CD on quit smoking.
13
brain in such a way, becomes compelling, very affective.
14
So you want to quit

It affects the
Sleep disorders can be addressed in this way.
15
They have someone be able to relax, meditation,
16
concentration, accelerated learning.
17
things can be done.
18
over the course of many, many, many, many years, and now
19
his daughter doing the work of working with thousands of
20
people to determine which signals actually created which
21
effects and then developing technology that they could
22
place in the hands of individuals to make the choice on
23
how to use it.
24
25
A whole array of
And they did this by working with,
Now, that's kind of an interesting way of

looking at technology.
It was my area of interest, in
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the beginning of all of this work, was not looking for
the dark side of all of this, but in the mid-'80s I got
very interested in light and sound stimulation of the
brain that capitalized on sound signals and flickering
light for brain entrainment.
the brain will follow that external signal or what's
called FFR, frequency following response.
little energy.
Entrain the brain where
So very
Let me roll back to Delgado again.
10
One-fiftieth of the amount of energy the earth creates
11
is sufficient to move your brain into very specific
12
states.
13
just another technique for altering brain activity that
14
might be beneficial, but you're in control of it, not
15
somebody else.
16
Dialing that radio up, if you will.
This is
I'm going to skip some of these just because
17
they're not so relevant.
18
images and let me just go back into the whole dialogue
19
of this, mind effects.
20
And I'm going to close the
When I think about sort of where do we go with
21
this conference, when we put that conference together
22
with the Lay Institute, our purpose was to put together
23
these really good thinkers to try and see if we could
24
create a synergy between them.
25
And when I first got interested in doing
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something actively in science, it wasn't about HAARP and
it wasn't about mind control.
would play -- and I was working in a government office
at the time, and it was -- my friend said, you make your
living with your left foot.
living, but the rest of my creativity could be engaged
elsewhere and me working in bureaucracy was really a bad
match.
The role that I thought I
Because I could make my
But the point was, my youngest son, when I was
10
getting really frustrated with my work, said, change
11
channels.
12
You know, I'm thinking about this, because I
13
had just given him this discussion about creativity was
14
like changing the channels on the TV set, right, and so
15
he's feeding it back, time to change the channels, Dad.
16
So I thought about it.
And what I decided I
17
would do is -- I read independently in science over 20
18
years.
19
say, one guy in one branch of science.
20
if this person could ever meet that person, you could
21
really see something happen.
22
I had read some really compelling things from,

I thought, boy,
And the first paper I actually ever presented
23
in science, I was 19 and it was at another obscure
24
conference that I ended up in on biorhythm research.
25
And my paper was contrasting at that time the Soviet
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method of research versus the US method.
method was compartmentalization, separate.
distill things down to the smallest subspecialty and
then push these people into a corner and let them do
this bit of the research.
other people over here and ten other groups over there
and fifteen groups over there, and somewhere all of this
stuff comes together and it gets really sloppy.
It's sloppy because there's a lot of repetition; it's
10
Now, the US
You know,
And then you've got nine
Okay.
very expensive.
11
Now, the Russians, Soviets at the time, they
12
didn't have the money for that kind of research, to
13
spread it out that way, and they used a very different
14
method.
15
fields, even though they didn't seem like they should
16
connect.
17
together to develop science.
18
at the exposures that we had seen earlier, what are the
19
regulatory exposures of electromagnetic fields, the
20
Russians in the '90s and the '80s were a thousand times
21
more stringent than they were in the US.
22
They took experts from all of these different
They put them in the same room to work
Well, why was it?
That's why when you look
Because they had actually
23
made the observations that we hadn't made and actually
24
connected the dots in a way to say, hey, this is
25
dangerous.
That doesn't mean they followed their own
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regulations, because they probably didn't.
whatever was expeditious there.
recognized the physiological responses to
electromagnetic fields and the fact that you could
manipulate it.
They did
But at least they
What was discovered by a guy named Allan Frey,
he was looking at microwaves, and he discovered that
there's this flickering effect, but it only occurred
when you pulse-modulated the signal.
And if you look
10
at -- I heard earlier, it's always scalars.
11
scalars.
12
fields as we think about them.
13
It's not vectors.
It's always
It's not electromagnetic
But if you look at the ones that affect human
14
psychology and physiology, if you look at those signals,
15
they have a very quick rise time and a very fast drop.
16
They're like the punch, like punching that ionosphere to
17
create the ELF.
18
modulations on these other carriers are meant to trigger
19
that effect by you entraining to that pulse, that
20
firing, or some submodulation being carried on a general
21
carrier.
22
It's like those signals.
Those
Now, if you remember the first Gulf War, the
23
first Bush War, and you remember how the Iraqi Army just
24
sort of gave up.
25
just like school children on their first fire drill
The fourth largest Army in the world
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throwing their hands up and surrendering, you know,
thousands of guys to a few dozen.
Now, I speculated on this.
What was that about?

And then it was
Scottish media that later reported on this and said it
was Project Solo, which was a project operated by the
United States.
flying over the country at the time and it was taking
and piggybacking the signal on the radio broadcast going
into the region that were broadcasting the Muslim music
10
And what we did is we had this C-130
and prayers.
11
So all these guys are in their bunkers
12
listening to their favorite radio station.
Unbeknownst
13
to them, the subsignals being played on that broadcast
14
created anxiety, high levels of anxiety and fear.
15
then you watched this Army just collapse under this.
16
And that was kind of the -- in my view, the
And
17
first test of could you really do this, could you do it
18
in this adversarial environment.
19
And one of my friends joked, hey, it's the
20
perfect Republican weapon, right?
21
hardware in place, but totally wipe out the population.
22
Zbigniew Brzezinski said, in between two ways,
23
it doesn't matter if it's Republicans or Conservatives.
24
They just use different rationale for accomplishing
25
their political ends.
You can keep all the
On the conservative side, the
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Neocon side, it might be the fascination with gadgetry
and new technology, as Zbigniew Brzezinski said, and on
the liberal side it might be the idea that we're doing
this for your own good.
And we've all heard that before.
The government is here, right?
The fact of the matter is, when you start
thinking about mind control technologies as a concept,
the idea that someone believes that they can interfere
with your free will, this is something that most
10
religions in the world say God won't even do.
11
think this is their appropriate direction in technology,
12
to interfere with the way consciousness flows.
13
Yet, men
Now, think about for a moment what are the
14
things that -- what is the easiest way to manipulate
15
consciousness?
16
Create an environment of anxiety and fear.
17
happens at that point is you cannot reach your higher
18
states of consciousness.
19
The easiest way, the simplest way.

Because what
If you look at Monroe, rhythmic patterns in the
20
Hemi-Sync as an example, higher states of consciousness
21
are associated with those rhythmic patterns within the
22
brain; not that incoherent scattering of death and
23
information and energy.
24
25
So if you create a certain environment of fear

and anxiety and you look at an EEG monitor and the brain
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activity of an individual, you see it's kind of
scattered in patterns.
higher emotions; love, compassion.
rhythmic patterns.
One person is experiencing

You begin to see
Another simple way of seeing is something that
you can actually measure.
Take two people that are in
love and they -- you know the saying, and I looked into
her eyes, right?
another individual and hold that gaze, you'll begin to
If you actually gaze into the eyes of
10
mirror each other's brain activity in a pretty unique
11
way.
12
long enough.
Two people's breathing begins to
13
synchronize.
Their energy fields begin to synchronize.
Your breathing will even synchronize if you do it
14
And at the same time, their awareness, their
15
intuitions elevate and their rhythmic patterns in the
16
brain can be seen.
17
fear -- think about the advertising you see on
18
television.
19
breath is, you know?
20
uncomfortable.
21
If you can create an environment of
It's all about how you smell, how your

It's all these things to make you
Think about the 6:00 news.
Now, we heard
22
someone talk about the 6:00 news and how that kind of
23
works.
24
people sit down in front of the television set.
25
already fatigued.
You come home from a hard day at work.
Most
They're
They begin to watch the television.
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And then their spouse hollers, it's time for dinner;
it's time for dinner.
right?
they're in a light trance-like state.
How many of you've been there,
Nobody's listening.
No one's hearing.
Because
Now, if you look in a dark room -- the
television is here -- look behind you at the white wall
and look at the flicker rate.
coherent signal within a certain range through the optic
nerves, your brain will lock onto that signal.
If that flicker rate is a
If you
10
monitor the brain activity at that time, you'll drop
11
into this highly-suggestive state and now you listen to
12
the advertising.
13
Now, every school of psychology teaches
14
frequency following response today and that you can
15
create these kinds of effects.
16
advertising?
17
advertising works so well.
18
convincing and compelling.
19
Would they apply in
Of course they would.
That's why
It works because it's
When you look at the 6:00 news, would somebody
20
utilize that in broadcasting the news of the latest
21
propaganda from whatever source it's coming from?
22
would speculate -- today I would speculate and say yes.
23
When you think about how simple it is to create
24
that agitation.
25
University who published a paper in 1995 talking about
There was a person at Valencia
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this whole concept.
could create a complex signal, broadcast it out over a
large area that just created the sense that something's
not right.
And what he said back then was you
Unease.
And then you go watch the 6:00 news and they
indict some specific ethnic group, maybe it's Muslims,
and then a certain amount of that anger gets diverted
that way.
decided on the laser edge of populations, on majorities,
Well, in a day where a lot of things are
10
this is a very, very powerful tool and one quite simple
11
tool to apply in the modern world.
12
When you think about news feeds today, how much
13
is really investigative reporting and how much of it is
14
just spitting out somebody's press release, right?
15
little investigative reporting today because it's
16
expensive, because it's not immediate, and when you look
17
at the news media today, it's almost immediate and most
18
of it is just meant to entertain.
19
inform.
20
Very
It's not meant to
You know, freedom of the press, it used to have
21
something to do with keeping an informed public so we
22
could make good decisions and we could govern as a
23
public.
24
Say whatever you want, say it however you want, but
25
nobody takes responsibility and we have the neutered
Today we debate the media as freedom of speech.
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neutral news.
come on.
And if you really believe it's neutral,
Everybody who assigns a story to a reporter
knows that reporter's biased.
It comes out in the news and what gets published and
what doesn't.
the news?
up.
But no one has really taken it on as a topic and
10
The editors have bias.
How many stories about mind control hit
Occasionally.
The economists might pick it
Somebody might pick up a little bit, a piece of it.
consistently pursued it.
11
Yet, when you think about modern technology and
12
the resolution -- now, we've been talking about things
13
that have happened in the past, and somebody even
14
mentioned this, MK-ULTRA is a program -- you've heard it
15
alluded to.
16
subprojects under it.
17
That was the CIA's program.
It had 144
Most of the records surrounding that were
18
shredded by a guy named Gottlieb, who was responsible
19
for that at the Central Intelligence Agency during the
20
Church Committee hearings.
21
truth back then.
22
this, has become increasingly refined as our technology
23
has advanced.
24
25
We never really got the
But the resolution, the ability to do
When you think about technological advances,

one of the things I read says that technology from the
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invention of the wheel to where we are today, it doubles
about every nine to ten months.
Invention of the wheel to where we are today, ten months
from now we're going to double that, and then we're
going to keep doing that.
Wow.
Think about it.
It used to be every five years in the 1980s,
and it kept shrinking as our computing power increased
and our ability to manipulate large amounts of data
increased.
10
Now, a super computer, think about a super
11
computer.
12
was doing this work, about 280 teraflops a second, which
13
at that time would be like six billion people on the
14
planet with hand calculators doing a calculation every
15
60 seconds for 60 hours to do what that super computer
16
could do in a second.
17
A super computer will do somewhere, when I
Well, the next evolution -- some think it's
18
already here -- are the quantum computers.
19
the quantum computer do?
20
will do what a super computer does in a trillion years.
21
It's back to this analogy of how much EMF do we have out
22
there.
23
What will
A quantum computer in one hour
Well, think about the same kind of
24
amplification and computing power.
25
as a concept.
You look at privacy
It doesn't exist in the world today,
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right?
tracked, whether it's your GPS on your phone, whether
it's your phone conversations -- in the United States,
every piece of mail is photographed for who it went to
and who sent it.
Virtually everything about us is catalogued,
When you think about your telecommunications,
your Internet connections, Google, AT&T, Verizon, all of
them have violated the very essence of what personal
privacy is all about.
10
Because today, in the 21st Century, we need a
11
revolution, an evolution of what privacy is all about.
12
Because you, experiencing the victimization of this
13
technology, are the pinnacle of the abuse.
14
is subject to abuse of personal privacy.
15
But everyone
You used to think about it, it would start and
16
end in our physical doorway in our home.
17
in your home compared to what is in data banks stored on
18
every single human being in this room.
19
It has nothing
Now, people say, oh, don't worry about it.
20
don't have the ability to collect.
21
resolution to look into it.
22
that resolution.
23
computing first will be able to hack through every
24
security code for every system on the planet within
25
hours.
We
We don't have the
Quantum computers will give
Whichever government finds quantum
They'll be able to predict with so much accuracy
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by collecting all that data and analyzing that data, it
will almost seem a spiritual event.
But it will only be accurate up to a certain
point.
And over time that flaw will amplify to where it's big
flaws.
guide our world, to guide our ideas, our philosophy, and
how we pursue the world.
And then there will be a little bit of a flaw.
But we'll rely increasingly on these systems to
The Internet.
What people think about that is
10
the world wide mind of the 21st Century.
11
Public Broadcasting System, did a special called "The
12
World Wide Mind".
13
I say within 20 years or even now -- maybe it already
14
exists now -- but within 20 years that you'll be able to
15
connect the physical minds of all of the people on the
16
planet in a world wide mind.
17
PBS, our
And they say within 100 years -- and
Now, that might appeal to some.
It doesn't
18
really appeal to me from the standpoint of technology.
19
I think we already have that on a certain level.
20
think we already are connected on a certain level.
21
belief systems limit our ability to access that level,
22
but I believe it's here.
23
I
Our
And I've seen enough demonstrations of it.
You
24
know, all those scientists I had in that room for that
25
mind effects conference, the part that really blew me
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away that I didn't expect was what they really centered
on was the idea -- and this was Rosalie Bertell, the nun
and physicist, and she said that the next leap is going
to be the leap where we realize or we recognize or we
remember our extrasensory perceptions, our anonymous
capabilities as human beings and that becomes the next
evolution of the human kind.
8
9
And what suppresses that is fear and anxiety,

because you cannot reach those cases of consciousness as
10
long as you're in fear and anxiety.
And anyone who
11
purports or is a victim of these technologies, do you
12
have anxiety, do you have fear?
13
you have the ability to reach those higher states of
14
consciousness in that condition?
15
not possible.
Of course you do.
Do
It's physiologically
16
So when you think about entire populations,
17
whether it's religion injecting fear or whether it's
18
government injecting fear or as my friend used to say,
19
you know, the king keeps you poor and the church keeps
20
you dumb, kind of was the early idea when you think
21
about how things evolved in Europe several hundred years
22
ago.
23
When you think about modern technology on the
24
backdrop of that concept, what's changed?
25
changed.
It's just the same deal.
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You know, 6,000 wars
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in 4,000 years, most of them over religion; let me give
you a clue, God doesn't need any help killing anybody.
God can probably do it himself or herself.
The fact of the matter is, the idea that people
would just be evil on -- and I think I heard earlier
today that the psychopaths are in the minority.
believe they are.
people, they're out there, but they're not this mass.
Most people do things because they believe they're
I think really evil-to-the-core
10
right, and then they want to impose their rightness on
11
other people.
12
And this is kind of a mistake and then we end
13
up in this conflict between ideas without being fair and
14
recognizing people's right to disagree.
15
said earlier, certain things you can't say in Germany.
16
Certain things you can't say in a movie theater, too.
17
You know, you can't yell fire.
18
sense.
19
And I heard it
Now, it makes good
You don't want to yell fire in a movie theater.

Some would say what we're doing here is yelling
20
fire in a movie theater because we're letting people
21
know what we know, what we've concluded from a good deal
22
of research.
23
You know, my books are written, every page at
24
the bottom of each page are the footnotes.
25
find that distracting.
Some of you
Personally, I want to know where
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the information came from as I'm reading it, not a week
later as I'm contemplating it.
source.
I want to know the
And so in the publications that I've written,
1600 source documents, reviews out of a matrix of a
hundred thousand that we had available to us, more or
less.
have made it into four books on technology dealing with
mind effects, dealing with HAARP, dealing with personal
20,000 have made it into my archives and 1600
10
privacy issues.
11
the last four years.
12
A lot of the things go unreleased in
You can look at my publications from 1999 and
13
2000, and you'll see the same things, because the old
14
literature showed enough to come to those conclusions.
15
When I testified in the European Parliament in
16
the '90s, at their invitation -- and this was another --
17
a good side story for technology.
18
name of Thomas Spencer, he was from the UK, he was a
19
Parliamentarian at the time, and he was the Chairman of
20
the Environmental Subcommittee of the European
21
Parliament.
22
given him the book on HAARP and he was very interested
23
in this.
24
I flew to Brussels and spent a few days with him talking
25
about the issue and brought with me a couple feet of
A gentleman by the
And he had contacted me.
So we had a conversation.
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unclassified documents for his research team to take a
look at.
What happened then is he moved in the European
Parliament -- he was a Conservative, by the way, and he
moved into a Foreign Affairs Chairman, a very powerful
position, an ideal position for dealing with the things
that we were dealing with at the time.
8
9
So we -- at his invitation, I came over to

testify in front of the group on security and
10
disarmament in the European Parliament on HAARP and on
11
non-lethal weapons, the kinds of things we've been
12
talking about today, the manipulation of human beings.
13
Now, they do it a lot differently than we do it
14
in the US.
In the US, when you have public hearings,
15
the public actually gets to come.
16
Parliament, the public meeting is you have to have an
17
invitation to come.
18
know, I hadn't really thought much about that.
In the European
So that's kind of different.
You
19
And they also -- they can also do things behind
20
closed doors, which, you know, we theoretically can't do
21
in the United States.
22
the public invited or the media invited.
23
You can't have a meeting without
So what happened the night before the hearing
24
is the Committee met with myself, one of the other
25
people testifying, and a member of the press and we
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spent five and a half hours in a non-official meeting to
talk about these issues, so that when we actually gave
our testimony the following day, they would have
formulated a set of questions to give us the opportunity
to follow along.
because then they at least had a good base of knowledge.
So it was a great way to do it,
Now, in that private meeting we demonstrated a
technology using infrasound where you could transfer
sound through electrodes attached to the skin where you
10
would perceive that proverbial voice in the head.
11
demonstrated that to the Parliamentarians in that closed
12
session.
13
We
And then we went into the hearing the following
14
day.
15
her, testifying on our side.
16
the gentleman's name, but he was from a group called
17
GRIP in Brussels that does research on weapon systems
18
particularly and he had done his Master's thesis on
19
HAARP, and so he was there.
20
And it was Rosalie Bertell, which is where I met

It was -- I can't remember
We had someone from the International Red Cross
21
that had done work on non-lethal weapons and was a
22
specialist in this particular area.
23
there.
24
25
And then I was
We each got 15 minutes to present.
And then I
got an hour of questions from the committee in the open
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hearing where I had the opportunity to talk about some
of these things.
been this incident in Japan where children watching a
cartoon that had a certain flicker rate had caused over
700 children to go to the hospital with epileptic
seizures.
a problem, right?
to go into the hospital.
And right around that time there had
Now, remember, non-ionizing radiation is not

A flicker of the TV caused 700 kids
Now, some say that was by design.
Some say
10
that was by accident.
11
for talking about non-ionizing radiation in the European
12
Parliament because they had all read that story.
13
fresh.
14
But it was a perfect illustration
It was
The other thing demonstrating infrasound,
15
something that had never been demonstrated, to my
16
knowledge, in that type of a meeting, to show that you
17
could actually transfer sound without necessarily
18
involving the ears.
19
Now, there's another technology that was
20
advanced by a guy named Woody Norris -- he won the
21
Lemelson Prize at MIT for this particular technology,
22
and I believe the year was 2004.
23
Norris -- and his was using acoustic heterodyne where he
24
could send in two signals from two different sources,
25
point them at an individual in the crowd, and they would
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hear this voice in their head and nobody else would hear
it.
Well, he won a half a million dollars for that
prize, organized a company called ATCO.
them up.
technology to the military for perimeter protection.
You know, where they could have these sort of alarm
systems so when the protestors got too close they'd hear
these warning signs that nobody else was hearing.
10
They're a public company.
You can look
And he sold that
Now, you think about that for a moment.
11
Imagine -- this is why the European Parliament got
12
interested, because we used this illustration.
13
imagine a national leader standing up in front of a
14
group and all of a sudden they hear voices in their head
15
that nobody else hears.
16
right?
17
what that technology can do.
18
demonstration.
19
Now,
That's the end of that guy,
I mean, he's out of there.
And that's exactly
And that was one
Now, some have said that you can pulse modulate
20
on a single beam and create the same effect or utilize
21
something like HAARP, not so much for voice in the head,
22
but for certainly changing emotional state of large
23
segments of the population.
24
25
When we looked at all of this, we even looked

back -- you know, where else could this have been used?
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And there was a device in Vietnam called the Lida
machine, L-i-d-a.
named Ross Adey, who is, unfortunately, also deceased.
Ross Adey was brilliant and was utilized by the
government, by private sector as an expert in these
kinds of areas.
A guy who researched this was a guy
Well, he was asked to look at -- this
particular device had been captured during the Vietnam
War.
It was a Russian device.
And it created the
10
entrainment effect using flickering light and sound.
11
And they used it for interrogating prisoners by putting
12
them into that, like, trance-like state and then
13
extracting intelligence from them.
14
1960s.
15
Now, that's the
Again, this is low resolution, low technology.

As computing powers increased, as our knowledge
16
in human physiology has increased, as our knowledge of
17
the electromagnetic nature of human beings has
18
increased, the ability to manipulate large segments of
19
the population comes easily achieved, either as a side
20
effect or unfortunate disaster of our technology.
21
You mentioned Swiss Re, Swiss Re Insurance.
22
Swiss Re Insurance wrote a paper on Electrosmog.
23
believe it was 2002.
24
industry then, don't insure electromagnetic field
25
effects because it will result in a bigger lawsuit than
And they said to the insurance
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Firestone on their tires or the smoking industry,
because the knowledge is here and now and nobody insures
that risk.
Lloyd's of London insures anything, but they
won't insure that risk.
Nobody does.
Because insurance
companies don't like to lose money.
that.
before cell phones were invented, the University of
Washington had investigated those very same frequencies
It's as simple as
And yet the telecom industry on cell phones --
10
on chick embryo studies and determined they were
11
harmful.
12
Cell phones didn't exist then.

Then cell phones come out and everything's safe
13
all of a sudden.
14
says, now, wait a minute, we did all this research.
15
This is a dangerous thing.
16
a powerful adversary.
17
That same guy that did that research
But the telecom industry is
So it went to the Congress.
18
There was a guy in Florida.
19
controversy.
20
said, we need a study.
21
pay for the study.
22
study.
23
You remember this.
Brain cancer.
It ended up in the Congress.
Big
Congress
So the industry says, oh, we'll
They spend 25 million dollars on the
I can't remember the guy's name who did it, but
24
he eventually published a book because his findings
25
were, hey, this is dangerous.
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He issues his
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report.
they got the 25 million into his queue.
it all on these projects.
himself.
5
6
They figured, hey, they got him.
You know,
He got to spend
He got to make some money
Hey, he's our man.

Well, he wasn't.
This guy actually had some
integrity, and I apologize for not recalling his name.
A VOICE:
DR. BEGICH:
A VOICE:
10
George Carlo.
Which one is it?
George Carlo.
DR. BEGICH:
George Carlo, that's correct.
And
11
he wrote a book called, "Cell Phones", a very important
12
book.
13
And when it comes to children, one of his
14
observations was -- he had the simple observation of
15
damage to skulls.
16
five-year-old, 400 percent more energy transfers to the
17
skull into the brain than an adult.
18
twelve-year-old, approximately 200 percent.
19
You know, you have a four-year-old, a
Ten-year-old,
This is one of the main reasons why you don't
20
want children using cell phones or, even worse, the
21
portable phone in the home because it's even less
22
efficient with the battery and the energy with even more
23
leakage.
24
phone today where you actually pick it up and talk into
25
it.
And what do we do?
Try and find a hard line
You can't even find them anymore.
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impossible to find.
When you look at what we have learned about
human physiology and the effects of electromagnetic
fields on the human physiology, it is the revolution in
science that will collapse the pharmacuetical industry
one day.
recognize that the pea in the soup of electromagnetic
radiation has been the cause and the root to most of the
chronic disease we see on the planet today.
10
And one day we're going to wake up and
When you combine that with that concept that I
11
used, that example of iodine, everyone has a little bit,
12
now you have these complex interactions, 5,000 new
13
chemicals are introduced or compounds introduced to the
14
public every year without really any serious studies,
15
and then you add this on top of it, and now you have a
16
very toxic world.
17
manipulation from the propaganda of World War II to the
18
downloading of that.
19
achieve?
20
personnel with a download.
Blap.
21
years' worth of education.
Now, let's go on.
22
And then you take the technology of
What does the military hope to
They want to be able to train military
And now here's the thing.
23
kind of education.
24
programming.
25
thinking involved.
There's your 12
Think about that
No critical thinking involved.
It's like writing to a disk.

Who controls that?
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Just
No critical
Curriculum
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controls the way in which our society goes.
risk.
This is the
What about evidence in courtrooms when you can
create a synthetic memory or wipe one out?
that do to a Democratic Republic or a Democracy where
people have the power?
us as we become increasingly transparent to governmental
agencies and they become increasingly opaque.
What does
That power has been taken from
It is the opposite of what should be occurring.
10
There shouldn't be a camera in every household.
11
should be a camera in every government office.
12
the technology's there.
13
and look at what our employees are doing, right?
14
Wouldn't you like to be able to dial up your
15
Congressional office and see that conversation they're
16
having in real time?
17
that?
18
There
Because
We should be able to dial in
And why shouldn't we be able to do
What do they have to hide?

You know, you think about government and you
19
start saying that and, you know, the only people
20
protected from that kind of intrusion in the US are
21
federal employees.
22
protection than the average citizen within the country
23
that I live in.
24
25
They have a higher level of
For what?
And when you think about government, everyone

points to the politician.
I can tell you, most
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politicians are ignorant.
parties in the United States the preference is to have
people that are -- they look like the news announcer,
but they couldn't think their way out of a phone booth,
right?
they couldn't think their way out of one.
want people that are smart enough to look good, but not
smart enough to think on their own.
politician for political parties, because they can be
10
In fact, most political
We don't even have a phone booth anymore, but

Because they
That's the ideal
told what to do.
11
Look at how much money is being spent in
12
political outcomes.
13
have pointed and looked at, like, Australia to mandatory
14
voting.
15
Huge amounts of money.
Some people
Everybody votes now.

Worst possible thing that you could ever do.
16
And here's why:
17
pulls the lever?
18
maybe 20 percent of the population votes, but at least
19
they're informed.
20
When the population doesn't vote, who

Those that are informed, right?
So
They've educated themselves.
If you force people to vote to keep their
21
driver's license, their medical benefits, or whatever
22
social programs you've got running and you say, you will
23
vote, now who decides what they vote on?
24
buy the 30-second or one-minute ad on TV that influences
25
them.
Whoever can
The moment they walk into the booth, they go, ah,
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and pull the lever.
A very dangerous situation.
Now we have a dangerous situation.
Democracy is something that each of us have to
claim internally.
The change that people are looking
for in this group happens by a change in consciousness,
by us recognizing what we are as human beings,
recognizing the potential that we have.
know what these government programs yielded?
points to the fear side of the equation.
Because you
Everybody
But what they
10
really discovered was that every single soul, every
11
human being has this anomalous capability.
12
Now, imagine if we could awaken those
13
capabilities, could you hide anything?
14
people could literally look into the mind of another
15
person, that makes a politician pretty vulnerable,
16
wouldn't it?
17
I mean, if
That is the next evolution that I believe is
18
happening and it's the only evolution, the only
19
revolution that can change the way things are.
20
starts with human consciousness.
21
believe to be right and true and beginning to act on it.
22
Not from a foundation of fear, but a foundation of
23
confidence.
24
25
It
It starts with what we
You know, somebody asked me once, what do you

think about faith?
I said, faith is what you know to be
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right and true and you step into it on the idea that you
can achieve it.
You believe it.
So many people I've seen in this work, they
keep jumping into things beyond their belief.
don't believe they can achieve it.
and they fail, and they keep failing.
are doing good work otherwise step back, do what you can
do with confidence, do what you can do with knowledge,
don't wait for a group to form.
They try it anyway

And people who
The group's already
10
here.
It's called the human race.
11
to be right and true.
12
up, learn from it, and move forward.
13
They
Act on what you know
If you make a mistake, clean it
When you look across this room and you look at
14
all these folks with a little bit of gray hair, and
15
you've got the gray hair not by all of those great
16
things that happened in your life, but by the real
17
disasters that happened in your life.
18
think about bad news is a stimulation for good news.
19
You know, you
People ask me, you know your father's
20
disappearance, disappeared off the face of the earth,
21
that must have been a horrible thing.
22
the time.
23
life because it altered my course.
24
25
Yeah, it was at
I consider it the most important event in my
The worst things in our lives alter our course,

change our direction, activate that higher potential
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that cause us to rise out of the ashes of our apathy and
our defeats and stand on our feet again and move
forward.
The pain that people experience today is the
catalyst for the solutions tomorrow, whether we like it
or not, whether it's falling down as a two-year-old or
standing up as an adult.
our ethics, on the basis of our values, and we
reinvigorate and let go of the fear and recognize what
If we stand up on the basis of
10
we are as creative beings, we have the potential to make
11
change.
12
And with that, I'll open it to questions.
13
(Applause.)
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15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
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EXAMINATION UNDER OATH OF

ALLSTATE INSURANCE COMPANY

DIANE A. SMITH, REPORTER

JUNE 28, 2016, 9:25 A.M.

LANCASTER BAR ASSOCIATION

Allstate Sworn Testimony

June 28, 2016

Allstate Sworn Testimony

June 28, 2016

STANLEY J. CATERBONE, called as a witness, being

I wanted to try to give you some

background about why people are doing this to me.

This is a book written by the Chief of Police ex-wife.

Chief of Police of Lancaster?

She accused him of domestic

abuse, and I've had the book for over a year.

other thing is this book here.

right now to get her out of prison.

I have the only live case

And why don't you read the title of the book.

Love, Murder and Corruption in Lancaster County,

My Story by Lisa Michelle Lambert and David Brown.

communicate with Dave Brown a couple times a week.

Who is David Brown?

Her attorney that wrote the book.

not familiar with this case, there were three teenagers

that were involved in a murder back in 1992.

federal judge named Stewart Dalzell released her saying

there was so much prosecutorial misconduct in the case that

she was actually innocent.

Allstate Sworn Testimony

Now Pennsylvania appealed it,

June 28, 2016

and they had to have another PCRA hearing in front of Larry

essentially, and she went back to prison.

Well, he found -- he reversed everything

Now last June, I filed an Amicus on her behalf as

to move it in the case.

appeal case to get her out of prison.

controversial that 38,000 people signed a petition from

Lancaster to impeach the judge.

They never impeached him.

And I currently have a 3rd Circuit

Of course, they lost.

But in 1997, the attorney that

represented her had some dealings with me.

Now essentially my Amicus is based on a premise

that I suffered the same prosecutorial misconduct that she

federal whistleblower for International Signal Control, the

firm selling arms to Iraq to a Black Ops Program with the