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How Black Salve is Being

Used to Treat Breast Cancer


in the 21st Century
with
Naturopath Adrian Jones

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A Two-Fold Dedication
I wish to dedicate this book firstly to the spirit of all you brave souls out there who are
prepared to stand up and take responsibility for, and control of, your own health and
that of your loved ones, and indeed your pets.
Since the days of Hippocrates great health explorers would try out new things, guess
where, on themselves first. Then on their loved ones and friends. Not first on others.
Not on animals. Not on the insane. Not on babies. Not on citizens of the third world.
Not on the military. But on themselves first. Physician, heal thyself (first) used to
be a basic principle of Hippocratic oath and practice.
I wish also to dedicate this book to my mum. She was the first person on whom I
used the black salve. She had developed secondary breast cancer, and had only 5
weeks to live. The primary tumor in her right breast was huge, and fungating. I had
had no experience whatsoever with this salve, but my brother had some in his first
aid kit. I applied the salve to the tumor, there was an observed change after 24 hours,
and the core (called the eschar, the dead tumor) came away 2 weeks later leaving a
huge hole where it had been. By the time she died from the metastases, just a few
weeks later, the breast had almost completely healed. She was 88.
I have learned a lot about the black salve since then. If Id known as much then as I
do now, it is possible she may still be alive today.

Acknowledgements
I wish to acknowledge the encouragement I have had over the years, from family,
friends and colleagues, my teachers and my students who have followed my academic
pursuits in the field of Health, and from my patients whose feedback has always been
so valuable.
Thank you for your kindness and grace.

About the Author


I had the best start in life. My mother nearly died from
poor health before I was born, and through her own
reading, she came to discover the benefits of natural
health, at a time I might add when modern medicine
was very much in the ascendancy, and she chose her
path amidst great opposition from family, friends and
peers. She took control of her own health, and
maintained it till the end.
I was born in 1949 by natural delivery into her
enlightened understanding of health, and became a
beneficiary of her enthusiasm; breast fed till 2 years;
never vaccinated (not even a tetanus shot); no antibiotics; vegetarian; encouraged to
go barefoot, in the sunshine; to enjoy the benefits of organic food from our a backyard organic garden and eggs from chooks we always had; to rest one day in 7; I never
got sick. Thank you mum!
But how often does one squander ones birthright due to complacency? My 30s were
like belated teenage years, discovering tobacco, alcohol, drugs, and it was not until
my 40s when I came to study naturopathy, again with my mums encouragement,
that I came to appreciate just what a great start in life I had!
Im a qualified, naturopathic physician; some of the most amazing studies I have
undertaken have been in anatomy, physiology and biochemistry, which along with
nutrition I also have taught at a local Academy of Natural Therapies. Ive studied,
practiced and taught massage therapies also.
I co-wrote a 500 page best selling reference guide on health, Better Health
Through Natural Healing (Hinkler Books, Melbourne, 2001, ISBN1865152595),
with my friend Dr Ross Trattler, that is still available today as a handy home guide
and is used in some naturopathic colleges as reference material.
I also have a degree in theology, and now whilst not religious, I am christian in
philosophy; I also respect the spirituality revealed in the natural realm (the heavens
declare the glory of God1), as well as that invested in the great sages such as lord
Buddha, Zoroaster, Mohammed, the Dalai Lama, and many others. I am a keen
gardener; I have studied and practiced horticulture and landscaping. Im a bush
walker, and a lover of life and of all living things. Life is meant to be lived in perfect
health, and to be forever.

Psalms 19:1

Table of Contents
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Disclaimer

A Two-Fold Dedication

Acknowledgements

About the Author

My own Story

Observations

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What Youre Up Against

12

Be Not Afraid

13

Breast Applications

14

Breast Cancer
Staging
Histopathology
Grade
Receptor Status

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Signs and Symptoms of Breast Cancer

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What cause Breast Cancer

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Breast Screening

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Problems with mammography

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Diagnosis : Biopsy

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But is the Biopsy Procedure Safe?

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Medical Treatment Protocols


Surgery
Medications (Drugs)
Radiation

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Hallowed Turf?

26

Why Seek an Alternative Treatment?

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Prognosis

28

Pointing the Bone

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Application to the Breast

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Important Note: Biopsy

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Applying the Black Salve


The SALVE: What is It?
A Myth Dispelled
So How Does the Black Salve Actually Work?
Cancer Cell Specificity
Natures Scalpel

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How Long Does it Take to Heal?

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A New Diagnostic?

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APPLYING THE BLACK SALVE


Pause for a Moment
The Salve
When should I apply it?
Preparation
Where to place the Salve
How much do I use?
How do I apply it?
How do I look after the dressing?
How long do I keep it on?
What if the salve comes off before 24 hours?

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REACTIONS IN GENERAL

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Will I Become Incapacitated?

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WHAT CAN I EXPECT TO SEE WHEN THE SALVE COMES OFF?

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Contraindications

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What if the Tumor Appears Unchanged after Treatment?

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Post Salve Care of the Resultant Wound

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How Will I Know when / if it has all gone?

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Written Authentication of Effectiveness of Treatment

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What if it Comes Back?

My Own Story
I am one of those with fair skin, and growing up in the 50s and 60s in sun-drenched
Sydney, I was very much the outdoors type, a regular at the best beaches in the
world, and recall getting myself sun-burned on many occasions. This could certainly
have predisposed my skin to damage, which along with numerous other potential
causative factors, would certainly have contributed at least to some degree of damage
to cellular DNA, and to the emergence of sun spots and skin cancers.
After that experience with my mother on her deathbed, I started applying the salve to
several lesions on my body that I had noticed. Several flaky patches yielded positive
results, but the most profound was such a patch on my calf muscle. For several years
I had occasionally been scratching away at this lesion, only for it to recur. I applied
the salve, there was an inflammatory reaction, and when the dead tissue came out 2
weeks or so later, it left a hole into which I could have popped a green pea! You could
look in and see capillaries, it was like looking into the body in the way we see under
water through a glass-bottomed boat. The margins appeared healthy. I kept the
wound hygienically clean, as the healing process continued for several more weeks
until this cavity eventually filled in.
I was so impressed, I came to refer to the salve as natures scalpel. I have applied
the salve to about 20 skin lesions, on all parts of my body, and needless to say, I keep
the salve close in my first aid kit, and apply it to anything that concerns me.

Observations
So, be aware, the following guidelines in this book are based on observations only,
intelligent and informed ones none-the-less, made by this author and many other
people, by ways of both personal usage of the black salve, as well as the use of the
salve in an entirely legal way by health care professionals to treat patients who have
presented with a suspect lesion or several lesions, either with or without a diagnosis.
Conscientious professionals ought to consider it important at least to recommend to
their patients to do two things in regards to any treatment one might wish to pursue,
whether they choose the medical, or an alternative treatment:1. Get a medical diagnosis in writing
2. After treatment, get a follow up check-up, and get it in writing.
Outcomes for patients presenting for treatment with a written medical diagnosis
(biopsy, imaging etc), serve only to test hypotheses that have been made, and are
continued to be made, as to the apparent cancer-cell specificity of the salve-induced
inflammatory response, and its effectiveness as demonstrated with post-salve
treatment observation and/or testing by the diagnosing doctor or some other medical
doctor.
However, many people dont bother with either, considering diagnosis and follow-up
as unnecessary; they consider they know enough about how the salve works now;
previous experience using the black salve might give one this confidence.
When Jesus the Master Physician healed people from what was considered
incurable leprosy, because He was not certified by the Establishment of His day
(the religio-political Judaic Council), He told His patients when He had cured them
Go, and show yourself first unto the priests2. In other words, dont take My word
for it, get it certified so you cop less flak!. For similar reasons today, His advice may
be pertinent.
I have also observed, (please note that no scientific study has been conducted on this
either), that many patients become such avid converts to the process and personal
users after being professionally guided through one or two treatments using the salve,
particularly so when it comes to treating skin cancers. I suspect this is because:

Mark 1:43,44

The black salve is inexpensive to buy


It is handy to have in the fridge or cupboard as you never know when you might
need it (for your pets, your friends pets etc..!)
It seems to last indefinitely
It is easy and time efficient to apply
The treatment provides for clear outcomes (there is either a clearly discernible
reaction, or nothing, maybe a slight redness for a day or so, nothing else)
It seems that users think the treatment is effective, and so provides peace of mind.

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What Youre Up Against


Membership of the Medical fraternity seeks to bestow great prestige and wealth;
theres no debate here. But members had better tow the line, and if youre not a
conscientious member, if you express views contrary to the establishment, if you
prescribe outside the standard, accepted norms, then you can become ridiculed as a
quack, and even charged with malpractice, sued and fined, and even
deregistered and have your whole livelihood taken away from you.
A common complaint however that seems perennial, is that doctors (doctor: lit.
means teacher) do very little in patient consultations by way of educating about
health; the attitude seems all too often to be Dont you know? Doctor knows best.
This is how it is, just do as I say. This is sometimes reinforced by threats designed
to engender fear. Often spoken, but always implicit, If you dont (take my advice),
then... All of this is calculated to engender fear, and compliance.
Yes, fear is a proven motivator, but there are major philosophical problems with
fear, fear of any type really. Fear is not the basis for any healthy relationship,
whether between God and his creatures3, a man and a woman, a priest and his flock,
a teacher and her pupils, or a doctor and his patients.
Nor indeed is fear a good basis for ones relationship with ones own body, or mind,
or spirit. Yes, it is very effective, but it has to do with the nature of tyranny, and has
nothing to do with love, which is the only valid and healthy motivation within any
relationship; the Master of masters said perfect love casts out all fear. Being
motivated because you love life, love your body, treasure your health is one thing;
but acting reactively, and doing things (even good things) because of fear is
something else.
So where are we going with this? We live in a world increasingly being motivated by
fear at every level.

3 Fear is in fact the opposite of love; the God of the Bible is a God who motivates by loving kindness
chesed (Hebrew) or grace (Grk). See C.S.Lewis Mere Christianity (1952)

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Be Not Afraid
So, to stand up for ourselves, for our children, for our loved ones, as wisdom
suggests is imperative from time to time, against the system of allopathic medicine,
even just for once, can seem like it takes a whole lot of courage.
When we receive a diagnosis Youve got Cancer, unless we take a step backwards,
a pause, we are immediately being corralled into the medical system of
treatment. By well-meaning doctors, to be sure. God bless them. We need to
know however, that we still do actually have the right to choose our own path, for
better or worse, but for how much longer, is a matter of guess.
We are still free to say, No, thank you, Im going to get some other opinions first.
At least, you want to think about things first, before making any decisions, yes?
Even just do nothing in haste, think about getting a second opinion, maybe a
second diagnosis, or a second point of view about treatment options.
Sadly today, in the 21st Century, choosing something as simple as a black salve to
treat your skin cancer, will evoke a wide range of responses, from your partner,
your family and friends, your doctor, ranging from a mild friction to downright
hostility and anger, and even threats of legal action.
Hence the dedication of this book, and it comes with the encouragement, Be not
afraid! Be strong! And stay strong!.
But enough of the chit-chat.

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Breast Applications
It is a widely held belief that treatment with the black salve appears to be effective in
this way not just for various skin cancers, but for a wide range of pre-diagnosed
cancers, for example mast cell carcinomas, carcinosarcoma (including Ewings),
various breast cancers including DCIS (ductal carcinoma in situ, a common form of
breast cancer), adenocarcinomas such as Pagets disease of the breast, indeed, it
appears, many other cancerous (neoplastic) tumors and lesions, providing direct and
sometimes proximate application can be made.
So one day the salve may be demonstrated to be effective with any type of suspect (or
diagnosed) tumor when that mass is able to be palpated by a light touch (felt rather
easily), in other words, when the tumor is superficial rather than deep, or just
beneath the skin.
In the West, after skin cancers, breast cancers are the next most commonly diagnosed
cancers, and after lung cancer, is the second highest cancer killer of women4.
Breast cancer has been known since ancient Egyptian times (1600 BC). Tumors or
ulcers of the breast were cauterized, but it did not cure.
French and Scottish surgeons of the mid to late 18th century started removing lymph
nodes, breast tissue and underlying fascia and chest muscle to try to cure breast
cancer. Well, it wasnt their breasts!
In 1882, Dr Wm S. Halsted started performing mastectomies; but not on his breasts
either!
Since 1940, in the West, the incidence of breast cancer has risen by one to two
percent every year. Between 1973 and 1991, the incidence of breast cancer in females
over 65 rose nearly 40 percent in the United States.
Incidence of breast cancer is lowest in the less developed countries, and highest in the
more developed countries.

American cancer Society (Sept 13, 2007; see www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI

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Breast Cancers
There are several types of breast cancers, and these types are classified using different
schemata such as stage (TNM), pathology, grade, receptor status, DNA testing.
Staging
TNM is based on size of tumor (T), whether spread to axillia lymph nodes (N), and if
spread is elsewhere, ie metastasized (M)
Stage 0 : pre-malignant disease, or marker (sometimes called DCIS, ductal carcinoma
in situ)
Stages 1-3: called early cancer and potentially curable medically
Stage 4 : advanced and / or metastatic, and incurable medically.
Histopathology (microscopic tissue examination)
Most breast cancers derive from the skin (epithelium) lining the mammary ducts
or lobules.
Carcinoma in situ is proliferation of cancer cells limited to the epithelium
Invasive carcinoma has spread to the surrounding tissue.
Grade (Bloom-Richardson grade)
Measures grades of differentiation of tissue, where a high grade means poor
differentiation and the more cancerous with poorer prognosis
Receptor status
Has to do with whether the tumor presents with estrogen receptors (ER),
progesterone receptors (PR), and HER2/neu. Cells with none of these tend not to
become cancerous (triple negative). Cells with ER+ require estrogen for growth.
Generally HER2+ has worse prognosis (in statistical medical terms anyway).

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Signs and Symptoms of Breast Cancer


Self-breast examination discovers tumors (as lumps) only after they have been
growing for a fair while, maybe even for years beforehand. Lumps can be in breast
and / or in armpit. These account for 80% of first diagnoses of breast cancer. But not
all lumps are cancerous.
Other signs include changes in breast size or shape, skin dimpling, nipple inversion,
or spontaneous single-nipple discharge. Pain is an unreliable sign for breast cancer,
it usually denotes other breast disorders.
Invasive carcinoma (invade the small lymphatic tissue of the internal skin of the
breast), can cause inflammation of breast tissue, called inflammatory breast cancer
(IBC), and causes pain, swelling, warmth, and redness throughout the breast, and
also an orange-peel texture visible on the skin (peau dorange).
Pagets disease of the Breast presents as flaky, red, around the areolar tissue, and can
later be tingling, itching, burning, and painful. There can also be (50% cases) a lump
in the breast.
There can also be phyllodes tumor, (a hard lump) formed within connective tissue of
the breast, that upon microscopic exam, can be benign, borderline or malignant.
Metastasis occurs most commonly to bone, liver, lung and brain. This can present
with non-specific symptoms such as unexplained weight loss, fevers, chills, sore joints
(if bone), jaundice, neurological.
Most symptoms of breast disorder are benign, e.g. mastitis, fibroadenoma (lumps as
in fibrocystic breast disease).
Breast cancer is being diagnosed earlier these days, even in pubescent years. And in
males.

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What Causes Breast Cancer?


Since the industrial revolution, poisonous chemicals increasingly pollute both the
external and internal environments, and since the scientific revolution of the 20th
century, with the development of modern food management systems, from growing,
to storage, to processing, to preserving and cooking, everything involves chemicals.
Human tissue DNA is becoming increasingly exposed to damaging molecules (free
radicals) in our food and drink, which have the known potential to cause normal
cells to behave abnormally (in other words, cause cancer). We ingest all sorts of
trans-fats and other damaged fatty acids as in fried foods and margarines (to name
just 2 common sources), which potentially will affect the fatty acid components of
breast epithelial tissue, for instance.
But it is not just our foods, but increasingly the air we breathe, the water we drink,
the electro-magnetic environment we are living in, all contribute to a toxicity, a
poisoning, a contamination of our DNA. God alone knows just how all this affects our
genes, and it seems most tissue is now being affected by cancer!
Generally, cellular DNA is damaged, causing mutations (inherited, or acquired) of
normal error-correcting proteins within cells. This sometimes allows uncontrolled
multiplication, and extra mobility of these cells leading to metastasis.
Several of these mutation pathways or cascades have been identified.
There are many agents identified as being able to cause these mutations; these are
called carcinogens (cancer-causers).
Specific primary risk factors for breast cancers as identified to date are sex (female),
age, lack of childbearing, lack of breastfeeding infants, higher hormone levels (eg high
estrogen exposure).
There are exogenous estrogen-like chemicals called xeno-estrogens (from everyday
plastics, glues, fertilizers, HRT, and many more). These xeno-estrogens can be
absorbed into, and travel in blood and lymph fluid, and bind at estrogen receptor
sites, perhaps triggering an excessive estrogen response.
There are many other more general factors, such as alcohol, obesity, exercise,
radiation. Also, race and family history. Not abortions however.
Breast cancer most commonly starts within the epithelial tissue of the mammary
ducts or lobules (progressing to ductal carcinoma in situ, DCIS).

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Breast Screening
Screening includes ultrasound, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), and genetic
screening.
Radiological exposures (mammograms), are widely recommended for women over
age 40 or 50, every 2 years, and have been almost mandatory for decades now.
But are they useful? And are they safe?
In 2009, the Cochrane collaboration concluded that mammograms reduce mortality
from breast cancer by 15%. But, they result in more unnecessary surgery, and
anxiety, and may do more harm than good5.
A lot of women I have interviewed have chosen simply not to undergo
mammography, they consider the risk to benefit ratio just too high.

5 Gotzsche PC, Nielson M (2003) Screening for breast cancer with mammography. Cochrane
Database Syst Rev (2)

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Problems with Mammography


A 1992 Canadian National Breast Cancer Study, and The World Cancer Report
(June 2003), and others since, have found mammography does very little, if
anything to help mortality rates6.
Mammograms are just not reliable. Mammography has false negative7 rates of at
least 10%, maybe up to 30%. (this means they can miss tumors between 10 and
30% of the time).
False positives also occur (10% - 15%), but generally get checked out, but lead to
unnecessary worry, surgery, eg biopsy, lumpectomy, even mastectomy. In a
Swedish study of 60,000 women, 70 percent of the mammographically detected
tumors weren't cancerous tumors at all, they were benign breast lumps.
Concerns are increasing as to the cumulative effects of ionizing radiation,
including mammograms, on breast tissue, especially in younger fertile women.
Some suggest up to 75% of all breast cancers are caused by radiation from all
sources8.
Breast tissue is highly radiation-sensitive. Mammography can actually cause
breast cancer. However, it is less likely to do that today than say 30 years ago,
because radiography today uses only 1 rad per dose as compared to 5 10 rads
back in the 70s.
Concern also arises with the compression of the breast during the process of
mammography; maybe not good for sensitive breast tissue, and some suggest it
may potentially lead to metastasis.
Mammography for fertile women (under age 40), is not indicated as being
valuable, when risk to benefit analysis suggests the inherent risks and dangers
outweigh perceived benefits; better ultrasound or MRI. Evidence suggests high
sensitivity of the pre-menopausal breast with exposure to ionizing radiation.
Fertile womens breast are also more tissue-dense, shielding tumors from
detection.

See Epstein, S (MD) The Politics of Cancer

7 A false positive is where the test says youve got it when in real fact you havent; and a false
negative is when you are told you dont have it, but in fact you do. Lots of common pathology tests
are unreliable, and of course there is the capacity for involved human error, whether malicious or
ignorant, innocent mistake.
8

Dr John W Gofman MD, PhD, has spent 30 years studying ionizing radiation.

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There may be some small benefits to mammography for older, non-fertile females,
but even this is contentious, especially for women b/w ages 40 559.
Infrared mammography, and thermal imaging (thermography10) are two new
modalities that might eventually replace radiation-based mammography as
prescribed preventative protocol.

See Medline (August 23, 2006). Breast Cancer Evaluation (topic 3287).

10

See Burton Goldberg Alternative Medicine

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Diagnosis
Is the lump benign, or cancerous?
Neither clinical breast examination, x-ray mammography, MRI or any other imaging
can diagnose if the lump is cancerous.

BIOPSY
Scientifically, the best way for anyone, including your doctor, to know for sure what
type of cancer it is, would be to take a biopsy (usually just a core sample of fluid or
tissue from the middle of the lesion), often taken with a special needle (fine needle
aspiration, or FNA11), and send the tissue sample to the laboratory for microscopic
cellular analysis.
Only a biopsy that extracts a sample of core tissue / fluid from the lump will
differentiate between benign and cancerous. Generally if the fluid is clear, it is
unlikely to be cancerous; but if bloody it can denote cancer. Examination in a
pathology laboratory is required however.
Sample tissue can also be taken by a core biopsy (takes just a sample), or excisional
biopsy (takes entire lump).
Biopsy can be more extensive, however, and can involve the removal of sentinel
lymph nodes just to see if the cancer has already spread. But who wants a perfectly
healthy lymph node cut out?

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Called fine needle aspiration cytology (FNAC)

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But is the Biopsy procedure safe?


There is a lot of concern that in the process of cutting through a tumor either with a
knife or a needle, even just to obtain a sample, can disseminate cancerous cells into
the bloodstream and lymphatic system.
Indeed, with biopsy, it is possible many single cells, or even large numbers of cells (a
clump) can be released into circulation all at once, and such clumps are much more
likely to become "stuck" in tiny blood vessels or capillaries somewhere, usually within
an organ, and thus more readily actually cause secondary (metastatic) tumors, which
is the main concern about skin cancers in the first place!!
Medical scientists say they need the biopsy for statistical analyses! Surgeons say they
need the data a biopsy provides in order to know how large an area to cut out "to get
it all".
However, a biopsy does not safeguard surgical accuracy, because clinically we see
many patients who have had both biopsy and surgery, sometimes repeatedly, only to
have the cancer come back again.
And, taking sentinel lymph nodes for diagnosis simply to ascertain spread in early
stages (1 and 2), ought to be questioned as to value versus potential damage.
You may know of someone who is diagnosed with primary breast cancer. They have
it cut out. Six months later the patient dies from secondary cancer, identified as
neoplastic breast cells that have ended up maybe in the liver, or brain, bones or lungs.
Question. Think carefully. Did the secondary, fatal tumor arise before, or after,
diagnosis and treatment?
True, it may have been already metastasised (albeit asymptomatically) before the
treatment. But, indeed, the metastasis may have occurred during the treatment also.
How do you know what happened? Who does know? The doctor will want to tell
you, that biopsy and excision (surgical removal of the lesion) is perfectly safe; but is
it?
There has been concern raised over the years. For instance in 1940 Dr James Ewing,
Dean of the American Cancer Pathologists, It (the biopsy) is especially to be avoided
with tumors of the breast, and all growths in which incisions of the skin involve also
incisions through the tumor capsule12. Which is what a FNA and a core biopsy is.
As recently as June 2004 a paper released by the John Wayne Cancer Institute13, an
institution that pioneered Sentinel Lymph Node Biopsy in breast cancer patients

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Pack 1940: 43 (See also CancerDecisions.com with Ralph W Moss)


Hansen, N et al.

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specifically studied some 663 women with a view to answering the question does
biopsy cause dissemination of cancer cells?
The conclusion was, that it does! Not in every case, but in an alarmingly significant
number of cases.
I am not personally aware of any proper scientific trial that has adequately
demonstrated the safety of the biopsy procedure, or indeed the excision itself.
And yet biopsy is done in thousands of medical and hospital surgeries daily. It does
seem these concerns have been largely swept under the carpet, because many doctors
and politicians alike remain unaware of these concerns.
That has got to be a very major community public health concern, given that the
incidence of metastatic cancers (secondaries) is very much on the increase!

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Medical Treatment Protocols


Surgery
Chemotherapy and / or
Radiation

Surgery
Includes lumpectomy, or mastectomy (take the whole breast), and with or without
sentinel lymph node removal.
The higher the stage treated, the more likely a combination therapy will be used, e.g.
surgery followed by chemotherapy, and sometimes radiation as well.
Breast cancers also have filamentous roots that can be disturbed by surgery,
perhaps in the same ways that excision can spread skin cancer cells as well.
Women have long been concerned that breast surgery actually can spread the cancer,
and hastens the onset of metastasis. We are now finding acknowledgements in the
literature14 that surgical excision actually increases cancer cell motility due to
increased wound fluid that presents as healthy cells become damaged by the scalpel.
One suspects the damaged tumor cell tissue is sucked into the lymphatic system,
leading to metastasis.
As noted elsewhere, one suspects that breast biopsy, especially core and excision
biopsy, also has the potential to spread the cancer too.

Medications (Drugs)
Mainly three types of groups of drugs used in addition to surgery: Hormone blocking therapy (blocks receptors e.g. tamoxifen, or blocks hormone
production itself using aromatase inhibitors); to down-regulate estrogen
expression
Chemotherapy (especially in non-estrogen based disease), but has seriously
harmful side effects, including damage to heart muscle.
Monoclonal antibodies, especially for HER2+ breast cancers.

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J. Clin. Oncology 24 (18S) : 10611, and Clin. Cancer Res. 14 (5) : 1325 32

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Radiation
Radiation is being used adjunctively with surgery, at the time of surgery more and
more, in the belief that it will mop up cells missed by surgery, and also to help
prevent potential surgery-induced metastasis.
Immunotherapeutics (biological therapies) is a more recent field of general cancer
research, in which scientists are attempting to understand more clearly just how the
bodys own immune system defenses are activated. Areas of interest 15 include
monoclonal antibodies, the actions of cytotoxic and helper T cells, various cytokines,
and vaccines.

15

See website http://www.meds.com/immunology/intro for some

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Hallowed Turf?
It is noteworthy that as far back as 30 years or so, tumors (especially skin cancers)
have demonstrated clear immunogenicity in response to black salve treatments, and
this observation has been noted in the literature. If only medical science had listened.
But then, what do quacks know anyway?
The ironic thing is that modern scientific research has only recently proven tumor
immunogenicity (over the past 10 years or so)!
When it comes to breast cancers, the medical fraternity seems to want to keep people
in the dark about options that might exist outside of their usual treatments. Or they
may not know about them. In countries where medical orthodoxy is entrenched, as in
Western countries, where there is so much money to be made from both diagnosis
and medical treatment, as limited and clumsy as their treatment options are, and
where laws protect such vested interests, such alternative knowledge and practice
tends to be "underground".
It is a shame that much of modern medicine is money-driven rather than patientfocused, and many good people within the medical field are themselves having the
wool pulled over their eyes, by vested interest, because this area is one in which the
alternative may prove to be so much more desirable than surgery etc.

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WHY SEEK AN ALTERNATIVE TREATMENT?


The plain fact is, there are acknowledged to be two major problems with the orthodox
medical approach to cancer treatment. In every treatment so far devised by medical
science to treat cancers
No treatment option is 100% reliable, so no cure can be offered
And every treatment option causes some damage to healthy tissue, termed
collateral damage ranging from extremely mild to the more disfiguring and
disabling, right up to the death of the patient. Oh, the treatment was successful in
getting the cancer; but unfortunately it killed the patient.
Certainly the Holy Grail of the modern medical science and pharmaceutical drug
industry is to design and patent a drug that (via a carrier of some type16) searches out
and selectively targets all cancer cells in the body, and leaves all healthy tissue intact.
I said patent because such a patent will bring to the creators the riches of Croesus.
What needs to be addressed however, is that a drug is a substance by definition that is
bio-toxic, that is, it pollutes and threatens even the life of any cell exposed to it, and
so far any delivery system seeking cancer-cell specificity is unreliable. And how will
the toxic waste be safely eliminated?
But now the focus is on designing such a delivery system. Theyre now trying to
genetically engineer viruses to which they can attach a patented cancer killing drug,
and inject these viruses into the bloodstream on a search and destroy mission
throughout the body. Great idea? And yet, so far away
But what about right now? Its not going to help you right now.
Let's look at what alternative treatments might have to offer right now.

16 See http://www.med.com/immunotherapy/intro for an outline of where medical science is up to


with all this.

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Prognosis
A lot of oncology has to do with prognosis, literally which means, fore-knowledge.
So the doctor pronounces, Based on (this or that).you have (say, 3 months) to live
etc. It is simply a best-guess survival prediction.
But, is it valuable?
Prognosis is based on statistics only, and so can not be of absolute significance to the
individual, only to a statistical group, because of all the bio-variables that come with
being homo sapien. You may be in the group (who have, say, Stage 4 cancer), but not
everyone dies who is in the group.
So why be told you are going to die if it is not necessarily so?

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Pointing the Bone


Words that create a belief are very powerful, and ought not be spoken lightly, without
considering every potential effect. For a woman to be told Youve got 3 months to
live might have especially damaging psycho-somatic effects, effects that could range
in severity from more benign anxiety and distress, to actually creating an internal
psycho-physiological environment that might itself be even more conducive to
succumbing to cancer.
The idea in some primitive aboriginal cultures, was if a member offends sufficiently,
the witch doctor would point the ceremonial bone at him, and that individual
typically would be dead within a few months. Just from the suggestion; like it
became a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Concern does exist as to what psychological patterning / belief is being engendered
here with the prognosis. What effect might fear and stress themselves have on
survival outcomes?. One needs to be aware of the possible psycho-somatic effect in
itself that this medical pointing the bone might have on survival outcomes.
Has the safety of declaring prognosis been scientifically studied? I suspect it has
not. I also suspect, in fact, that it would be found to be not a safe thing to do. What,
after all, is the purpose of it? The term itself, prognostication, almost denotes
something of pompous arrogance, inconsistent with health care, yes? Almost like the
doctor is wanting to play God.
Amazing, isnt it, that modern medicine can be so quick to throw stones at alternative
ideas and practices, as having no merit because they have not been proven through
scientific trials17, and yet so many of their own beliefs and practices fail by their own
standards of measurement, fail the Hippocratic imperative, Physician, do no harm!.

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See my article on The Value of the Scientific Method.

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Application to breast
Intro
Many women are partially if not totally against the idea of any invasive surgical
procedure of the breast at all. Full stop. Many women want to avoid breast surgery,
even just a biopsy, let alone lumpectomy (surgical removal of a lump), and most of
all, want to avoid removal of a breast (mastectomy), or indeed the breast and
underlying tissue and lymph nodes (radical mastectomy). It is generally suspected,
and recent literature is indeed suggestive, that surgical invasion of the breast can in
fact lead to the spread of the cancer. Indeed this may be just one downside of any
surgery on cancerous tissue.
Radiation therapy is also seen by many as not a safe procedure (there is evidence
radiation actually causes cancer!), and so many feel it does not offer a long term
solution.
And a lot of women do not want to take toxic drugs, which studies reveal might well
promote the spread of the cancer instead of healing, and can have other unpleasant
side effects such as permanent brain shrinkage!18.

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See Dr Joan Massague et al., Sloan-Kettering Cancer Centre, NY

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Important Note: Biopsy


If you do elect to have a biopsy, the very best for you might be to immediately after
the procedure, apply the salve directly onto the wound left by the needle.
This may provide 2 important benefits: The needle hole might provide assisted passage for the salve direct to the cancer
Protection from the possibility of the biopsy causing unwanted motility of
damaged cancer cells, or possible migration leading to potential metastis.
Having a Biopsy?
After any biopsy to diagnose a suspect cancer, dont wait for the pathology report,
practitioners recommend that you would apply salve as soon as possible, straight
afterwards, just in case. If it is cancer, you dont want it spreading unchecked would
you?
Some women want to apply the salve immediately after having had a biopsy, figuring
the needle hole will allow better access by the active constituents of the salve to the
tumor site. Expect the salve to sting more than otherwise if you apply the salve to an
open wound, as noted below.
There may be some herbal medicine, and some specific anti-oxidant vitamins, that
could promote healthy healing.

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APPLYING THE BLACK SALVE


(hereinafter simply called the salve)
As stated above, what follows here is based on observations I personally have made,
and on conversations had with practitioners and patients, over the past ten years, and
more widely on observations made by highly skilled practitioners who have come
before, and who are brave enough to speak publically.
The general rule is, that the salve must be applied directly onto the suspect lesion, or
as close to it as is possible, and left on ideally for a period of 24 hours, then removed.

The Salve: What is It?


Black salves of one type or another have been around for a very long time, and may go
back a thousand years or more. More recently, common ingredients of these black
salves generally but not always have included Blood Root (Sanguinaria canadensis),
and a zinc base (e.g. ZnCl2).
The use of black salves has had a chequered history with claims and counter claims by
those who are believers, and those who criticize its usage. In fact, the whole topic
deserves another book sometime. The battle has cost many a good person their
reputation, their health, their personal relationships, their livelihood, their freedom,
even their life.
But, where theres smoke, theres fire, right? More recently, towards the latter part of
last century, more refined versions of black salves have been used extensively, with
different names, including HerbVeil8 and Cansema. My first personal introduction
to black salve was with Cansema.
Any testing or observation that might have been done using earlier versions is largely
obsolete today, especially that which might have concluded that its mode of action is
by corrosion, and much of the current medical information is based on such outdated
versions. However, some of these older versions are still being used today, so be
aware of that.
The current version of which we speak here, and with which I have been familiar for
over 10 years now, is substantially the same as the product called Cansema, and
which was produced first in the USA by Alpha Omega Laboratories19, except with a
couple of refinements.

19

(whose founder Greg Caton still rots, unjustly and unlawfully, in a US gaol)

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It is a herbal based product, featuring two principal herbs that are said historically to
have pharmacologically demonstrated anti-cancer properties, Blood Root
(Sanguinaria canadensis) and Chaparral (Larrea mexicata)20.
These herbs when dried are compounded in simmering water with a zinc chloride
(ZnCl2) base, a small amount of DMSO (a carrier, a delivery system molecule), and
some glycerine (a humectant, to help to maintain the moisture of the salve). The
resultant black salve compound is aqueous (water-based), so if necessary moisture
can be restored simply by adding water.
The black salve has been classified chemically as an escharotic in the literature,
which literally means, it creates an eschar (a piece of dead tissue). In cases of skin
cancer treatment using the black salve, the belief is that the eschar is the dead tumor.
After treatment, the eschar will be dispelled (sloughed off) by natural body processes
over a short time (usually within 10 14 days even if the tumor is quite deep). It
rarely if ever requires debridement, or surgical removal; the closest some patients
come to this is to eventually pick it out with a fingernail! Usually it just comes away
in the shower when it is ready.

A Myth Dispelled
It is important to dispel a myth right here. In opposing literature21, detractors of
some black salves have suggested it is corrosive, that is, it works by corrosion, like it
burns into the skin, burns the cancer out. Maybe some black salves made in the
past were corrosive.
But the more recent black salves used, including Cansema, are definitely not
corrosive. The black salves I have seen used, and which we use now, does not, repeat
NOT, act by causing corrosion of the tissue. This black salve is non-corrosive. This
is not a claim, merely a statement of scientific fact.
It is true that this black salve can be applied safely to healthy skin tissue, even
sensitive skin, and even after prolonged (24 hrs, or even up to 48 hours) application
to healthy tissue, the most it will do might be to create a bit of redness (rubor), and
maybe mild itchiness, because it does attract blood and lymph to the area, which is
simply an inflammatory response22, that is the desired function of the salve after all.

20 Recent versions add Galangal root (Alpinia officinarium) or ginger root (Zingiber officinale), and
sometimes Graviola leaf (Annona muricata).

see the Quack Watch website as one example. Maybe they havent tested the same black salve used
currently. Otherwise they would be lying (hoping at least to discourage some people from this
alternative treatment).

21

22

Most likely induced by the release of histamine

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But it will not burn or corrode at all, and once the salve is removed these
symptoms will rapidly disappear.
So you critics out there had better get up to date testing done, and alter the
commentary in the scientific and popular magazines, and advise doctors so as to be
able to at least be of some help to patients if they want truthful advice and
knowledgeable assistance.

So How does the Salve actually work?


Until thorough scientific trials are undertaken, we remain uncertain as to the precise
mechanism(s) that might characterise the action of the salve. So these few
paragraphs are postulative, or hypothetical.
It does appear that the salve is trans-dermally absorbed, that is, it has the capacity to
be absorbed across dermal strata into the deepest skin, sub-dermal tissue, and maybe
even beyond.
It appears to act as a catalyst (a reagent) in mediating an immune response, a
response that demonstrates all the hallmarks of a classic acute inflammatory
response23. In short, blood (causing rubor) and serous fluid (causing edema) that is
rich in leucocytes (white blood cells, including T cells, macrophages), cytokines and
other mediators of inflammation, all are attracted to the area, increasing levels of
various substances including tumour necrosis factor (TNF).
At the risk of being simplistic, suffice to say that these mediators somehow break
down and destroy cancer cells in the body.
Precise mechanisms known to induce an immune response (tumor immunogenicity)
include:
stimulating the antitumor response (by increasing the numbers of effector cells, or
by producing one or more soluble mediators such as lymphokines)
somehow decreasing specific suppressor mechanisms
promoting antibody recognition of tumor cell antigens (may involve the
complement system and enzymes, or generating a T-cell response)
stimulating active immunity (the immune system now recognises the tumor as
foreign)
stimulating a cytokine cascade which regulates NK cells, macrophages, and
neutrophils, as well as T and B-cell responses
Again, from personal observation, and studying testimony from practitioners and
persons who use it on themselves, their loved ones (including pets), and on patients,
23

(eg Robbins and Cotran Pathologic Basis of Disease, 7th ed. 2004, Elsevier Saunder pub. Pp 47 86).

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it seems certain that the salve does not affect healthy tissue, only neo-plastic
(cancerous) cells.
So, how do the alternative herbal-based salves compare to the medical treatments
described above?
The comparisons are breath-taking.
Naturopathic clinics in some countries have been legally (and sometimes illegally24, it
must be said) using various black salves for the better part of a century now to treat
various cancers. Witnesses to these treatments have suggested that the herbs act
synergistically (together), to effect outcomes that none of the herbs in isolation seem
to be able to do.

Cancer Cell Specificity


The combination of herbs used in the formulation does seem to exhibit highly active
anti-cancer properties. From clinical experimentation and observation, believers
definitely suspect the salve has the quality of being cancer cell specific. That is, it
only acts on cells which are cancerous (neo-plastic). They also know it does not
appear to adversely affect non-cancerous, or healthy tissue.
Please note and understand, at the risk of boring repetition, we are not making any
claims for anything here, (see the Disclaimer above). This is simply journalistic
commentary.
But it is really quite straight-forward. See if you can follow this:

Many patients present with a medical diagnosis (e.g. from a biopsy, for example).
The salve is applied
The cancer appears to die and get expelled.
The tissue heals up.
Follow up medical examinations (including biopsy) confirm that the cancer indeed
has gone.

Is that so hard to understand? Do you have to be an oncologist to work that out? We


are simply making observations of patient outcomes.

Natures Scalpel
So, users of black salve, both professional and lay people alike, believe that when the
salve is applied sufficiently to the cancerous tumor, any and every cancer cell
associated with that lesion, those laterally and those deep, will be destroyed (lysis).
They believe this result can be confirmed by a subsequent pathology test (e.g. a
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But then everyone knows the law can be an ass sometimes, yes? Well intentioned, maybe..? but still an ass.

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biopsy, or scan), and further confirmed with observations over time in which there is
no recurrence of the lesion. So theyre not talking guess work or wishful thinking.
Observations of the tissue, that is left, if possible, seem to demonstrate clear marginal
healthy tissue, from which further healing ensues. In this respect, cancer cell
specificity is being demonstrated, only cancer cells will be destroyed, not the healthy
ones. Voila, natures scalpel is the effect.

1. Shortly after treatment with the salve.


Note: The inflammation consistent with local acute response.

2. Approx 10 days later. Notice the defined decavitation (approx 5mm deep), with clear margination.

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3. Healing process well under way (approx 3 weeks)

If the tumor does succumb to the treatment, the necrosed tumor will be subject to the
internal waste elimination systems such as the blood and lymph, as well as any that
might be expelled to the external environment. Our immune system cells, including
T cells, macrophage and other lymphocytes scavenge any dead tissue, and according
to the theory, eventually the tumor is eliminated from the body.
During this process, one can think in terms of assisting the bodys detoxification and
elimination systems, by doing raw foods, organic fresh fruit and salad vegetables. raw
vegetable juices, drinking 3 litres of water daily, and exercising (that will promote
lymphatic stimulation).

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How Long does it Take to Heal?


The body will expel the dead cells (as an 'eschar' - a core, and pus), and depending on
the size of the lesion, and a patient's individual healing capacity, it may be a few
weeks to several months until the "wound" has fully healed. In evidence may be a
blemish or scar which, depending on the site, the client may elect to have some
plastic surgery.

Does the salve cause scarring?


After treatment and the healing is complete, one can certainly be left with a mark.
Is that a scar?
What is a scar? Usually a scar occurs when normally healthy tissue has been
damaged somehow, usually due to an insult like a cut or burn, then the scar is what
is left once the healing process has finished. This can be on surface skin and visible,
or deep within (breast) tissue and not visible to the naked eye.
But, in this case, the salve however appears not to affect healthy tissue.
The theory is, that as a tumor grows in certain tissue, it will cause a disruption, a
displacement to the normal structure or flow of the particular tissue (in much the
same way as a large rock might disrupt the smooth flow of a stream). It forces the
breast tissue (for instance) to separate to allow some space for itself within the
normal healthy tissue. As it grows in size, it wants more and more space, of course.
You can eventually start to notice it on the surface.
So when you take the tumor away, you are left with that space. Depending on the
mass of the tumor in the first place, a cave, a hollow will be left, then after the
healing process is finished, it should resume close to normal shape and texture.
What is usually stated emphatically is, that the salve does not damage any healthy
tissue, even delicate healthy tissue such as breast tissue, nor does it seem to damage
any nerves, or blood vessels other than ones that may be servicing the tumor itself.

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A New Diagnostic?
Some might suggest that, for all practical purposes anyway, we have here a new
diagnostic, and not just a new treatment.
Follow the logic. In this theory, as has been held now for many years, it is postulated
that one of the qualities of the salve is that it acts only on cancerous cells, that is it is
cancer-cell specific, and it does not act on non-cancer cells. Thats the theory.
So, still within this theory then, if the tumor is cancerous, the salve will destroy it; but
if it is a harmless non-cancerous tumor or lump, nothing will happen. A new
diagnostic.
In that model, sure, the salve cant tell you just what type of cancer you have. It just
tells if youve got it or not. And gets rid of it, all in one application. Pretty cool, huh?
This is why some patients are choosing not to bother having a medical examination or
diagnosis at all, let alone a biopsy, given the perceived inherent risk they see of biopsy
actually spreading the cancer. They are saying, if the risk of simply knowing what
type of cancer I have is, that in the process I put my life at risk where the biopsy
might spread some cells into the blood and lymph, then hey, I do not want to know
what type Ive got anyway, full stop. Go play statistics with someone elses life. I just
want to get rid of it in the safest way.
We need to be clear here. We are not advocating any one approach. I myself have
recommended a medical diagnosis to some patients on a before and after basis, if
for no other reason than to gather some objective evidence as to the effectiveness of
the treatment itself. Get one before the treatment. Then get one when its all healed
up. But not if you consider the risk is too great, I understand that.
However, the parable still holds good, a man convinced against his will, is of the
same opinion still. Is your doctor like that? Is your family?

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APPLYING THE BLACK SALVE


Pause for a moment
Before going ahead with this therapy, stop and ask Can I see the cancer itself, or
just feel it? In other words, is the cancer ulcerated, or fungated through the breast
wall onto the surface? Or is there leakage from the nipple?
If the answer is yes, then you may be considered a candidate for this therapy.
However, if the tumor is deep, or indeed has metastasised, then most clinicians
would suggest that black salve is not the appropriate treatment. Not if you have
access to a reliable internal therapy.
Yes, you may be able to feel the lump, but for salve to be effective when its deep, the
salve has to work through several barriers; the many layers of the skin itself, then
fascia, breast tissue, and through the tumor wall to the cancer cells within.
I have seen a primary breast tumor successfully treated with black salve (on many
occasions) when the lesion is superficial, albeit under the skin; however, this is
usually an individual call, the salve still has quite a journey to make, although it is
possible to achieve with several applications over successive days. In this instance,
it may take between 3 and 5 such applications.
As a clinician myself, I believe that black salve is most reliable when used topically,
that is, it is applied directly onto the lesion or cancer; it doesnt really matter just
what type of cancer it is, the salve demonstrates the most reliable results when
applied topically. There, Ive said it twice, so please take note.
As a tool, it seems to be brilliant when used topically. But like any tool, you need to
know its limitations; you would not use a coping saw to cut down a gum tree! (would
you??). There seems to be better tools for deep cancers, however, and ones that
have metastasised.

The Salve
The salve may have been stored for a while (it lasts years in the fridge). It must be
moist (but not runny) before it is applied. Whilst there is a moisturizer in the salve,
in storage it can become a bit dry. One (or maybe a few more) drops of water may be
enough to restore sufficient moisture for an application.

When Should I Apply the Salve?


The ideal time may be after your morning shower.
If you have decided to have a biopsy first, then a fine needle aspiration (FNAC) biopsy
is recommended, and certainly not surgical removal of the lesion per se. This will
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leave a needle hole, and salve practitioners believe such a hole might provide a
second useful channel for the salve to access the lesion directly, and so you may want
to apply the salve as soon as possible after the biopsy, within an hour, before it heals
over.

Preparation
Ensure the whole area of the breast has been thoroughly cleaned (from any body oil,
or talc), maybe using rubbing alcohol, or just clean warm water.
Dry thoroughly, only so the band-aid/s or bandage covering will adhere properly to
the skin.
If the area is hairy (e.g. a male breast, etc), shave the area so as to allow a band-aid to
stick securely to the skin.
As mentioned above, some practitioners believe it is useful to prepare the area by
needle points; this involves taking a sterilized needle and carefully pricking the skin
(to b/w 2 3 mm deep) to assist in getting the salve in. This would be followed
again by an application of dilute H2O2 or rubbing alcohol to sterilise. However, this
procedure may be unnecessary, as the salve demonstrates quite adequate transdermal absorption.

Where to place the salve?


Application of the salve to the breast is a matter of being able to know where the
suspect tumor is. If the suspect tumor is superficial, and can be seen or felt easily,
then apply the salve actually on, or as close to the tumor site as possible.
If the tumor is deep underneath the skin, then you need to apply the salve as close as
possible, because (unlike a lesion on the skin) unless the tumor has come through
onto the skin, you cant apply it directly onto the tumor.
It is probably important at the same time, to put an application over the entire nipple,
as providing further opportunity for the salve to have effect.
On some clinical occasions, the practitioner will prepare an area as close to the tumor
as possible, by puncturing the skin finely with a sterile needle, gentle pricks, (can
draw blood) to provide more of a pathway for the active ingredients of the salve to
access the area.

How Much Do I Use?


Practitioners both private and professional suggest that when it comes to application
for breast cancer, more is better; so it is better to apply too much, if anything , as
close to the site of the cancer as possible, than to skimp on it.
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You need to use enough salve to apply a thin layer, (somewhere between a smear and
a thin caking!), and apply over the lesion itself, or the breast tissue nearest to the
lesion, over an adequate area. More will not hurt, it is just unnecessary. And it does
not matter if the salve spreads out upon application.
The rule here is, however, it is better to use too much, rather than too little salve. Err
on the side of plenty.

How Do I Apply It?


An easy way to apply the salve is, using a spatula or even just your finger, put the
desired amount of salve first onto that area of the breast selected, and cover with a
large square band-aid (preferably a hypoallergenic elastic), and place over the salve.
The purpose of the band-aid is twofold, to keep the salve in place, and also to help
keep it from getting excessively wet from rain etc.
A large square band-aid is the most efficient; or you can use several band-aids in a
cross formation if you like. If the area is extensive, for example several centimeters
across, then you need to think about how you can ensure the salve remains on for the
required time; you may need several band-aids, or some other kind of dressing.
Or, a firm-fitting bra might be adequate to keep the dressing in place.

How Do I Look After the Dressing?


It is important to keep the application as dry as possible (so avoid showering, undue
perspiration, swimming, bathing, or rain etc). Only that if it gets wet, it can cause
unnecessary irritation, or you could wash the salve away prematurely.

How Long Do I Keep It On?


As a rule you need keep it on only for 24 hours, and generally only one application is
necessary, although there are exceptions to both these rules.
If you cant see anything has changed, or feel that there has been no reaction after 24
hours, for peace of mind you may want to apply it again, for another full 24 hour
period.
On occasion a professional may recommend you leave it on for longer, but not for any
more than 48 hours; it is unnecessary.

What if the Salve Comes Off Before 24 Hours?


Ideally, it should be left on for 24 hours.
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REACTIONS IN GENERAL
What reactions might one expect whilst the salve is on the skin?
If the tumor had broken through the breast tissue, then you will see visible changes to
the lesion. It will have changed color, maybe turned grey in color.
Or, if the tumor was deep, and not visible to the naked eye, then you may experience
no symptoms at all, not even a slight tingling or itching which seems to be the most
common sensation associated with an application of the salve, and most likely due
simply to its mildly caustic zinc chloride base (ZnCl2).
Having no symptoms does not necessarily denote that nothing is happening. And
having a tingling may not mean that something is happening either. Evidence that
the tumor is being destroyed is based more reliably on observations made of the
tumor itself after the dressing is removed, and the residual salve has been rinsed off
after 24 hours, or only after a subsequent imaging.
Generally however, if there proves to be a reaction, whilst the salve is on the skin, and
starting anywhere from almost immediately up to several hours, symptoms can range
from a slight itchiness, tingling or even stinging sensation, to a mild burning
sensation, none of which is debilitating, maybe just a little uncomfortable.
However, depending on the site of application, the size of the tumor, and the
condition of the tumor to start with, then sometimes symptoms of pain and severe
discomfort can be experienced. In extreme cases there can be a strong throbbing
pain within the breast, and treatment can sometimes cause a headache. There can be
associated nausea.
There may even be localized or adjacent swelling for instance in adjacent lymph
nodes, or redness, and this can be noted even before the 24 hours is up. Applications
of the salve near to lymph nodes as exist in the armpits, can cause swelling in these
nodal regions as well (not necessarily a bad thing, when you really think about that!!
Hmm..)
If the salve is applied to a protruding lesion which is already open, or weeping,
pustular, or punctured (e.g. by biopsy or needle pricks), then there may be some
discomfort (stinging, or burning sensation).
Generally, however, any pain will decrease as the body sensitizes to it. If you feel it
necessary, use an OTC anodyne (ask the chemist / pharmacist), or even a prescribed
one if you think that you might need one.
After the salve has been removed these symptoms would be expected to diminish over
the next few days.

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Will I Become Incapacitated?


It is possible that the level of discomfort (if there is associated head-ache, for
instance), might suggest some time off. This may be only for a day or so, but for
some people it can be up to three days. This may reflect lymphatic involvement, or be
a function of the individuals own unique response to a specific treatment; there are
many differences between individuals, biochemically and in many other ways we are
not all exactly the same!
Everyone is Different!
One fascinating feature of homo sapien is that there are lots and lots of biological
variations, indeed differences between members of our species. Some are quite
obvious, for example, height, skin color, face shape, iris and finger print patterns;
others less so, such as biochemical differences, reflective of genetic variation of the
species, as was first observed and catalogued by Charles Darwin.
The observations in this document are based on a limited number of subjects, maybe
in the thousands or more, but not in the millions. So whilst it is difficult to predict
any type or degree of outcome for any one individual person, these are general
observations indicative only of what one might in fact expect or achieve in terms of
clinical outcomes.
So therefore, in some sense each patient is a brave pioneer, and so that a more
complete story might one day be told, we welcome your individual experience, please
tell us about it! We know it saves lives. Is yours one of them?
So in this situation, also, variables also exist as to the size of the presenting tumor,
how invasive (deep) it has become, and ones susceptibility to cancers (history, family
history etc).

Removing the Salve


After 24 hours, remove the dressing and the salve by rinsing gently with rubbing
alcohol, diluted H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide), or just warm water, and clean until no
salve is evident. If the area is tender, you may need to sponge gently, or wipe with a
wet cotton wool bud.

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WHAT CAN I EXPECT TO SEE WHEN THE SALVE


COMES OFF?
Clinical observation matched with prior medical diagnosis suggests that if the
lesion/tumor was in fact cancerous (neoplastic), then within 24 hours of application,
the salve might be expected to already have evoked an immune response, called
(acute) inflammation (see the notes above, How Does the Salve Work? for a fuller
explanation).
Once the salve is cleaned away, everything from here on is all about healing, as the
bodys reparative processes come into play.
Remember the theory is that only neoplastic tissue (cancer cells) are being destroyed,
healthy tissue remains intact. I personally have never seen otherwise healthy tissue
damaged in any way, neither has anyone else who has observed the process. There
may be microscopic damage, or damage right at the tumor margins, but not visible to
the naked eye. If all that got damaged was simply microscopic, that would be very ok,
wouldnt it?
In some respects, the precise overall size of a lesion may only be pre-determined by a
soft tissue scan. However, even with that foreknowledge, you may still be surprised
at the result.

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Contraindications
Are there circumstances in which one ought not use the salve for breast cancer?
I do not currently know of any allergic responses. I did have a skin cancer patient
take himself to hospital because he did not quite understand what was happening to
him; the doctors there declared he had had an allergic reaction to the salve. But
they formed that opinion based merely on casual observation, without any prior
experience themselves with the salve, without resort to any literature, or even without
any scientific testing of that opinion, which would have differential diagnosis along
these lines if the hospital doctor had known about the way the salve works. True,
there are some similarities between histamine release in allergy and in inflammation.
But that was simply an incorrect diagnosis.
As stated earlier, what one observes appears to be a classic acute inflammatory
response, as described in any good text on physiology25.
I do not know of any absolute contraindications, but would welcome comment. As I
said above, we are all pioneers together.

25 (eg Robbins and Cotran Pathologic Basis of Disease, 7th ed. 2004, Elsevier Saunder pub. Pp 47
86).

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What if the tumor seems unchanged after treatment?


Again, from clinical observations (and without the benefit of a scientific trial), it
does appear that the salve is cancer-cell specific, and evokes an anti-cancer
immunological response leading to cellular necrosis, that is, the destruction of the
lesion.
If you have a proper diagnosis (not just an opinion) of cancer to start with, and you
seem to get no reaction (other than a mild reddishness, in some instances), then

Most likely the salve was not able to make significant contact with the tumor, or
The salve was not moist enough, or
It is possible the salve was not formulated correctly, or
It is also possible that you have a (rare) genetic defect in leukocyte (white blood cells, the
specific immune system cells) function, although by now you would probably have been so
diagnosed; or
Possibly you have an acquired immune defect such as can (but not always does) occur with
diabetes or leukemia. It doesnt mean that all diabetics or all leukemia sufferers have
leukocyte dysfunction, but you may be in a sub-group, or
There may be something else altogether as yet unknown.
There are other possibilities.
There may be no apparent tumor response. However it is possible also that there has
been asymptomatic activity deep down.
For example, I have applied the salve to moles on many occasions, and upon removal
of the salve, saw no visible response, indeed, nor was the patient aware of anything.
Only to the surprise of myself and the patient, to have the mole drop off within the
ensuing weeks. So it may have been working away under the surface and more at the
roots of the mole, without any symptoms or signs.
Testimony from women suggest a wide range of sensitivities to salve-induced
immunogenic responses, ranging from asymptomatic to dramatic.
However, if nothing appears to have happened, you may wish to apply the salve for a
second time, or even a third time. You cant hurt anything. For peace of mind.
If there is no visible reaction, then another possible deduction is that the original
diagnosis (if there was one) was wrong to start with, a false positive. As mentioned
above, some pathology diagnoses are shown to be unreliable and give false positives
and false negatives every day of the week, so it can happen to you too, although you
dont expect it to.

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The only way to confirm that conclusion, at least for the present, might be to allow
several weeks to pass , and then seek a follow up ultrasound, or MRI, (maybe even a
biopsy).
Ultimately, however, the only way you will know for really and truly, if it has gone or
not, is if it ever comes back or not.
Thats all anyone, even the most skilled oncologist, can offer you anyway.

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Post-Salve Care of the Resultant Wound


(if there is one in evidence)
Once the salve has been applied to a suspect tumor, and left intact for 24 hours (or for
whatever time period recommended), the salve is removed, and if there is a resultant
inflammatory response, now the healing processes are underway.
There may, or may not be, a resultant visible wound. If the tumor was close to the
surface skin of the breast, then there may be a wound, and that has to be managed
properly.
One has to attend to simple wound hygiene. The wound will want to form scab-like
tissue over the damaged lesion, protecting the wound against external bacteria. You
might also notice pus forming under the skin.
There is no need to disrupt this natural scabbing unnecessarily. Simply wash around
and let shower water lave the wound, and dry the area by dabbing rather than
rubbing with a towel.
Any dressing or covering ought to be changed daily, also for hygiene reasons. Over
the course of healing, pus and other runny debris will be released, and this can be
rinsed off under the shower or with a clean moist cloth.
You might choose to assist, even promote healthy wound healing, by topically using a
healing cream26. You apply healing cream to the affected area, and around about as
well.
Depending on its size (mainly its depth), it may take from a couple of days up to a
couple of weeks for the dead tissue to be expelled and for the bodys healing
capacities to reveal healthy tissue forming from the inside out. As to just how long
healing might take, will vary according to the original size of the lesion itself, and
what type of lesion/tumor it was, etc.
Over days, depending on original size of tumor, the scab will get tougher and more
leathery, and by this stage most likely the tissue is healing quite well underneath the
scab, with any decavitation (hole, cavity) already being infilled27, all as the body is
pushing the scab away now, and will eventually come away leaving healthy, red
tissue, which will eventually heal to the point where in most cases there is no obvious,
and certainly very little evidence that there was ever anything there.

My own formulation uses several botanicals (herbs) in an organic Vitamin E cream, tincture of
zinc, aloe vera, with several essential oils and homoeopathic tinctures. I have used this healing
cream for the past 15 years now without change of formulation, both personally, and clinically,
with glowing reports all along.

26

See any classic Physiology book on Wound Healing where the complex processes of healing are
discussed, eg Robbins and Cotran op. cit. Ch 3 .

27

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Some people encourage this final process of scab removal after a while, when it seems
right, by gentle rubbing with a facewasher in the shower, or teasing it off with a
fingernail or some such etc, which probably doesnt hurt, and somehow feels like the
natural thing to do. Underneath you expect to find intact, healthy skin tissue.
Deeper Tumors
If the tumor mass was not revealing on the surface, and there has been an
immunogenic response, then the internal lymphatics will get rid of the necrotitic
tissue. And to be drinking at least 3 litres of water daily.
An interesting observation, in interviewing women who have used the black salve to
treat themselves, have described the sensation, for instance with breast applications,
as if the salve was drawing the cancer towards itself. This has to be experienced to
be appreciated; patients with skin cancers have described the feelings in similar
ways.
It would be fatuous indeed for some detractor right now to be crying No it doesnt
just cos they dont like where this might be going. But we ask, Who the hell is
another to deny the experiences of the many? And yet you will read these
protestations in some detractive medical literature. Instead of detracting, they
should be listening more carefully. They might have learned something!!
When the tumor does succumb to the treatment, the necrosed tumor will be subject
to the internal waste elimination systems such as the blood and lymph, as well as any
that might be expelled to the external environment. Our immune system cells,
including T cells, macrophage and other lymphocytes scavenge any dead tissue, and
according to the theory, eventually the tumor is eliminated from the body.
Practitioners generally advise to be supportive of this internal cleansing process, and
to be taking some lymphatic decongestants, immune system and liver supportive
herbal medicine, and / or maybe some vitamins and minerals, so see your
naturopath.
Protocols have been developed specifically for this detoxification process.
During the healing process, one can think in terms of assisting the bodys
detoxification and elimination systems, by doing raw foods, organic fresh fruit and
salad vegetables, raw vegetable juices, drinking 3 litres of water daily, and exercising
so as to promote lymphatic stimulation.

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How will I know when / if it has all gone?


Only doctors are allowed to diagnose cancer, and so only doctors can judge if there is
none!
So, wait until you think you are healed up, then Go, and show yourself unto the
(priests)doctors (in this case!!).
Get some written supportive diagnosis. That might give you peace of mind. And
authentication that indeed you have taken the road less travelled, and kept the faith,
and it has paid off for you.
If you present with a diagnosis for treatment, it is important you have a written
record of the diagnosis, together with any mammograms, ultrasound or MRI
imaging. Your own digital photographs are useful records as well, take several
pictures from different angles.

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Written Authentication (proof) of Effectiveness of


Treatment
Several weeks after treatment with the black salve, or indeed after treatment of any
type at all, it is important if you can obtain documented evidence of the effectiveness
(or otherwise) of the treatment, i.e. has the tumor disappeared? How is the patient
feeling? Are there signs of healing?
All you need would be another MRI or ultrasound, or a mammogram (avoid a biopsy,
or elect to have only a fine needle aspiration if there is any concern at all).
And get the results, the evidence in writing, with picture evidence if possible as well
as the radiographers comments, that usually comes with the pictures.
You would not be the first woman to go back to her doctor after treatment with the
black salve, only to be told Well, maybe the original diagnosis was incorrect, maybe
you didnt have cancer to start with. Well, at least then you have a record of both
before and after diagnoses, right?

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What if it Comes Back?


Well, firstly, lets just wait and see!
Sometimes it does appear to come back, however. At least, it seems to come exactly
where the first one was.
There are many factors that could suggest an answer to this, however, in the absence
of scientific trials, we do not yet know. There may be a second tumor that arises in
the same place or nearby, and it might have occurred for the same reason the first
one came.
Or, it may be that scar tissue was present at the site of the initial cancer, protecting
some cells from the salve, which subsequently give rise to a second tumor. In other
words, you didnt get it all the first time.
Well, until the scientific trials, right?
You may simply want to repeat the treatment again.

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