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THE LAY

REPORTS

Compiled By Sinn

Introduction
Hey guys,
In my five years in the community, I have read a lot of posts.
I would venture to say that I have spent THOUSANDS of hours reading every
article out there on dating science. But the posts that I learned the most from
were all breakdowns of guys going out and getting success. They were lay
reports. But I had to search for years on the internet to find the best ones.
This book is, in many ways, what I wish I had when I got started all those
years ago.
Lay reports are, in my humble opinion, the best way to get a feel for how
pick-ups happen in the real world. All the reports contained within these pages
represent the best of the best. These are the ones that I personally have
learned from. I scoured the deep regions of the internet to find not only these
reports, but also some of the most amazing pick-up artists in the world,
including some of whom you may never have heard of until today.
Before I end this intro, I want to talk to you guys about how to use this
book to improve your game. This book is broken up into sections. There will be
a section on dates, same night lays, threesomes, bathroom lays, day game
and more. Each lay report will have my commentary in red. The commentary
is meant to bring attention to the most important parts of the report: the
things that actually work.
Many of you have learned about the 80/20 rule. The 80/20 rule simply
states that 80 % of your results come from 20% of your actions. My goal in
creating this book is to draw attention to the most important 20% of actions
that
causesuccess in dating science. Lastly, at the end of each section, there
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book is meant to be read over and over until you internalize all the routines,
attitudes, structure and logistics necessary to get laid in any situation.
Enjoy,

Sinn
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Table of Contents
WHO IS SINN? .................................................................................... 5
My Story:........................................................................................................................................ 5
DATES: ................................................................................................ 7
What is a Date? .............................................................................................................................. 7
LR - Fumbled then recovered the pen: Sinn .................................................................................. 7
LR - Alyssa Milano and the No-Look Pass: Shawn Messenger ..................................................... 10
LR - HowT
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LR - Cold Approaches in South Florida: Brad P ............................................................................ 23
LR - 2F closes in one day (Chicago Bootcamp) ............................................................................. 41
LR - 22 year old Sorority President Babe...................................................................................... 43
LR - Cute 18 year old AI: Jdog....................................................................................................... 45
LR - Day2 The CaptainJack Way ................................................................................................... 62
LR - Day Game German Girl: Doc HoLLIDAY................................................................................. 65
LR - Virgin ONS: Entropy............................................................................................................... 69
Dates broken down by Sinn: ........................................................................................................ 75
Kissing on dates............................................................................................................................ 78
Same Night Lays................................................................................ 80
LR: CaptainJack blows up a car: CaptainJack ............................................................................... 80
LR: Drunk Rednecks: Captain Jack................................................................................................ 83
LR: CaptainJack Gives HBTeacher a Lesson in Takeaways ........................................................... 91
LR: I have to pee! Captain Jack..................................................................................................... 96
LR: Captain Jack and Sinn do Dallas ........................................................................................... 101
LR:
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LR: Sunburst 2007-Jan-7: Captain Jack....................................................................................... 106
My Original Post on Microcalibration: ....................................................................................... 106
LR: Promotor Girl- Difficult PUll: Brad P..................................................................................... 114
Build Attraction Break Rapport-AFC Adam Lyons:..................................................................... 122
Most Gangster Pull Ever !!! ....................................................................................................... 127
What happened in New York? .................................................................................................. 130
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More things that happened in NY:............................................................................................. 133


LR: Kareoke til Sunrise: Sinn....................................................................................................... 133
LR: Fear the Stache: Sinn............................................................................................................ 136
LR: X 2 Back to back: Sinn........................................................................................................... 139
LR: 1 to tie 2 to lead... Fuck CJ! 2 to tie 3 to lead: Sinn .............................................................. 141
Hola PUAs,.................................................................................................................................. 145
Threesomes and In Venue Lays:...................................................... 149
LR - High Compliance Threesome Method: Brad P.................................................................... 149
LR - Orchestrating my first threesome: Entropy ........................................................................ 154
Cold Approach............................................................................................................................ 168
Banged Model in Club Bathroom: Brad P .................................................................................. 168
Female truism/cold read:........................................................................................................... 173
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SOMe analysis ............................................................................................................................ 180
Jizz Shoe Brad: Brad P ................................................................................................................ 180
LR: SNL BDSM in a Bathroom: Doc Holliday............................................................................... 185
BJR: Wanna watch me jerk off in the bathroom: Sinn............................................................... 191
In Venue Lays Breakdown:......................................................................................................... 193
Day Game and Internet ................................................................... 194
LR: Same Day Lay, The Dirty Way- Doc Holliday ........................................................................ 195
He Said/She Said: A Perfect Pickup and Both Sides of the Story: Shawn Messenger................ 197
Field Report: Bringing out the Devil in Angel: In10se ................................................................ 205
Day Game Breakdown: .............................................................................................................. 209
What is online game?................................................................................................................. 213
LR: Tall German Au Pair.............................................................................................................. 224
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LR: The Enemy Of The Environment .......................................................................................... 228
LR: The Kurgan The HBconsultant.............................................................................................. 230
Online Game Breakdown: .......................................................................................................... 235
my 5 rules of Online Game......................................................................................................... 236

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WHO IS SINN?
A lot of you may be wondering who I am and where I came from. So I
want to start this book off with a little bit of my story and how I came to be.

MY STORY:
By popular demand, here is the story of my journey through the bizarre
world of the community.
I actually found the community sometime around
98. Maybe
99, but all I
did was read about it. I actually thought it was really weird. I was in high
school at the time, and I read all the stuff about not supplicating, etc. That
was good but too late for me to apply it in high school.
I was not good with girls, at all. I was really jealous of the guys who were,
and so I pretended to have a girlfriend at another school. I also had a group of
friends who had a reputation for trying to get with girls and failing miserably.
Looking back on high school, I always thought I was marginally popular; but in
retrospect, we were the losers at the party.
I had no sexual experiences until I was 17, and I had sex with a girl whom
I had met on AOL after buying the DYD e-book and practicing some of that
stuff. Then I had two years of unintentional celibacy.
During that time I met Barrie, whom I dated on and off for about three
years. We didn
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of all time. We broke up, she lost her virginity to another guy after not having
sex with me for the nine months we were dating, and I took her back after
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So around 2003, I dropped out of my group of loser friends whose idea of
fun was playing pool and complaining about not getting girls while not
approaching. Their names were Ron and Gabe. I then started to approach at
the mall. I did 7 approaches a day, 7 days a week from late 2003 until
sometime in 2005 after I had taken a TMM program. It took me 6 months of

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doing approaches EVERY day to get my first lay. Her name was Katie, and I
met her at the Northridge Mall with the wheelchair opener.
After that, I started to get it. Things started to click, and I could get
attraction really well. I also started to get a new lay every month or so. But I
had MAJOR flaking problems. So I tookt
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Then in October, I took a TMM program with Mystery, Savoy and Lovedrop.
I learned a shitload. I had asked David D if I could intern for him and had
gotten the run around. But when I asked Savoy, he was only too happy to get
free labor. So I started interning for the company around this time. This was
back when I did recruiting for Abercrombie. So then I started to really rack up
the lays. It was a combination of day game and girls I gamed at A&F. Then I
went out with Savoy a few times to do day game which led to me getting a
chance to help out on a program in December of that year. I made it very
clear that I was not an instructor, but I learned a lot again.
Then I did a few more programs helping out and had my big moment at a
Vegas boot camp; it was a mixed four set. I was wearing a STUPID top hat,
and I ended up pulling the girl up to her room and closing at the end of
program. It was after this that I finally started to feel like I was good. I taught
a gazillion more programs that year and ended up talking at Cliff
s list. I had
arrived.
Then I started to build a name for myself as I had tons of great boot camp
sets. I had back to back lays in Boston and went three for three i
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DATES:
WHAT IS A DATE?
Before we can get into the Lay Reports (LRs) we should to define a date. A
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reports contained within this section deal with second (or more) meetings, and
the ways different guys use dates to get laid. At the end of this section, there
will be an article breaking down what to do on dates to make sure they end in
sex.

LR - FUMBLED THEN RECOVERED THE PEN: SINN


FUCK!
Last night, I was out with Fidelio in my hood, drinking and chilling. I did a
couple of approaches but was more out to catch up with Fidelio as he's been
out of the loop for awhile, and I missed hanging with him.
We bounce around a couple of bars where I'm proofed by the staff. And we
end up at my favorite dive bar of all time. We're in there, and I get opened by
a guy telling me he thinks my hair is hot. He was wearing a shirt that said
brown eyes on it, and Fidelio and I made a number of jokes as to the meaning
of that as he walked off.
I go to the bathroom, and when I return, Fidelio is talking to a hot
brunette. I hang back for a bit until I get opened by her friend. She's blonde,
young, hot and doesn't have big boobs. (But she has a smoking body, and I
want to do really dirty things to her.
We start bantering. I use you and I are not going to get along, and
shockingly, I don't get busted for using VH1 material!
I pull her hair; she bites her lip. She's there with some friends from work,
and they are UBER chodes. I push her onto them. I whisper in her ear that

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he'd be perfect for her. He tries to move her to the couch, and I physically
push her toward him ... She invites me to come with her I relent, and we sit
down on the couches. The brunette joins us, and I run strawberry fields on the
blonde and talk bitter gibberish with the brunette. The brunette falls into one
of my categories that I rock with: bitter sarcastic girls. If I can be bitter and
make fun of other people in the club, I'm almost unstoppable, but I wanted
the blonde.
I start qualifying, and she's jumping through everything. I start
breakthrough comfort talk about how things happen for a reason. I usually
don't do #s, but I have framed it sexually and eliminated obstacles so I need
her # in case a freak situation kills the pull. I bridge her to get high on Sun
and go see SuperBad. This is the greatest # close of my life...
I decide it's time to roll, and I say the very clever pull line "you ready to
get out of here?"
She goes to the bathroom, and then calls me when she's outside. We walk
into my building when she says her ride is at the bar across the street... It's
1:30, I don't want to deal with obstacles, and I'm kinda dreezed so I just say
I'll walk her there...
Then she tries to make out with me, and I dodge... I tell her we're not
doing the goodnight kiss. Then she kisses me anyway.
Note to girls: No means no. It doesn't mean you can kiss me...
I text her when I get home, and she texts back... We've been going back
and forth all day today.
Here are some highlights:

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Well, then you are on text probation. I text a lot, and I expect
prompt, witty, and fun responses that will make me remember how
awesome you are. Sweet Dreams.
Her:
Ok. I just got home, and I can be witty in text just you wait.
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I tell her she's sexy, smart and a huge dork. She replies: that pretty
much wraps it up; you nailed it.
Oh, funny side note, she's begging me to call her as I walk her to her ride.
I say "I really want to have sex with you so of course I'm going to call you!
But, even if we don't, you're awesome, and I want us to be friends...
So everyone can laugh at me for fumbling the pen. Especially after I
mercilessly ripped Future all weekend after the Asian fumbling that he
ultimately closed. So everyone can laugh at me, especially Future.
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After this, I tried to get her out three straight times, and she flaked all three
times. The following is a separate blog post from when we met up by accident
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nice present for forcing myself to go out. I'm writing this as HB Fumbled Pen is
lying on my couch snoring louder than I have ever heard a human being
snore.
Rewind to 7 and Twitchy. I hit a happy hour for a society in Dallas only to
see that it's two hot girls and 278 guys. The bar is empty, and they have free
drinks and calamari. After a quick drink and some free squid, we bounce to
another happy hour place before going to dinner. I number close a hostess
there, but I don't qualify at all, and she doesn't return my text later.
Twitchy drops me off, and I decide whether to go out or stay in. I have a
headache, a stomachache and don't want to go out... Fuck. I text Twitchy
"wanna go out?" He replies, "On the fence, up to you." I have to decide... I
didn't go out yesterday or the day before and, yeah, I was sick. But I've
gamed sick before... And I know I won't be going out tomorrow as Future has
to have an early night...
I decide to go out, and we hit the mysterious venue. We run into Vector
and the cuisinart that Topo, I and Vector have all fucked now. I open some
sets that go pretty well, but then I run into HB Fumbled Pen. She's there with
a friend. I say hi and go back to gaming. My set needs a jealousy plot so I roll
into HB Fumbled Pen's set. It's super on.
The most important point of this whole interaction was when I used her as
a jealousy plotline. This means simply that I was talking to another group of
girls, and I did a takeaway to talk to HB Fumbled Pen and her friends. I was

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initially just using HB Fumbled Pen for jealousy, but when I was in the group
she was so attracted by the social proof, I decided to investigate logistics.
Handling logistics will always be the most under-looked aspect of pick-up.
You must determine where you can get intimate with the girl, and get her
there in the smoothest way possible.
The magical questions for logistics are:
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How do you get here?
What do you have to do tomorrow?
I'm winning over her friends, and Twitchy bounces. I see a pull across the
street. She and her friend want to dance and ask me to watch them. I decline
and chill with Vector for a bit.
I go looking for Fumbled Pen, and she's nowhere to be found. I text her
and ask if she left.
She's across the street. I roll in and see her with a new guy. I go talk to
both of them. I tease the shit out of her about wearing his glasses and him
saying they looked good. He leaves, and I talk to her about her life. I tell her
she
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the street. We cuddle, and I go up her dress once, no go. Second time no go.
Third time, it's on ... and I close her.
It all goes to show that you will never get laid just staying home. But if you
go out, sometimes you get lucky.

LR - ALYSSA MILANO AND THE NO-LOOK PASS:


SHAWN MESSENGER
Shawn Messenger was the lead instructor for Pickup 101 before leaving
to form his own company, LV03.com. Shawn specializes in masculinity
and direct game.
If you aren't bragging about the fun things you have done with women,
you are missing out. It's way more important to celebrate your success than it
is to dwell on your mistakes. Whatever you think about is what you do.

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So today, I'm going to share a story from a fun night in my life... involving
a very fun girl.
We are men after all. We live the experience to tell the story. Here's one of
mine:
It's a warm night in San Francisco. I'm at a famously swanky little lounge
in a famously swanky part of town. Kind of place where women bust out the
little black dress with the total intent to get noticed and have guys buy them
drinks.
I walk in and move immediately across the bar to start with my favorite
move ... locate girls at the bar and ask them if I can get in to get a drink. I
see a lone hottie sitting at the bar with a bag next to her. I start talking. Move
bag. Sit down. Flirt back and forth.
She's leaning in, eyes sparkling, laughing at every joke. Good times all
around. She starts telling me about her boyfriend who manages this bar. I'm
now thinking that is a dude I do NOT want to get on the bad side of... and how
perfect if I can get in with her and the man on the scene.
This is the RIGHT way to think. Instead of being annoyed that she has a BF
or even worse ashamed that he was flirting with her, Shawn sees an
opportunity to increase his social value. (A complete abundance mentality.)
Suddenly, another girl comes walking right up, hugs her, and then turns to
look at me saying:

Girl: "You're in my seat."


Now, girl #1 is cute, but this girl is a sassier version of Alyssa Milano: Long
dark hair, tiny body, great boobs, great smile ... Tommy likey.

I reply: "It's our seat now darling. I'm all about sharing."
She smiles and walks right into me (I'm sitting on a barstool facing her
and her friend with my legs apart) and says: "OK, but I always get to go
first."

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IT IS ON!
Fast forward a bit. Girl #1's boyfriend shows up. We give a pound; I tell
him these girls are just wearing me out with all their flirting and I'm so glad he
showed up to help. He says he has to keep working, and now it's on me to
keep them busy.
Basically, this is Jake Ryan giving Farmer Ted the keys to the Rolls.
He moves on, and I take the two by the hand to the back of the bar where
they have little curtained-off rooms. We get back there, and instantly one outof-his-tree Australian dude comes up with two drinks in hand for Alyssa
saying, "I told you I'd get you a drink. Here it is." I take them, thank him, and
tell her to tell him how sweet that is.
She's eye-coding me with a *why is this drunk still here* look, but I just
chat and occupy him and send him on his way, with my arm around Alyssa the
whole time. We sit in the booth; me, her and her friend, when suddenly up
pops another dude. A big bald guy who
sagood 74 inches, good-looking,
loud, a muy macho Bruce Willis type, but not muy macho like me, amigo. :)

I pop right up and say, "What's up man? I'm Sean. God damn, are these
girls trouble. I'm so glad you're here to help."
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He introduces himself and gives the girls a big hug.

Then asks: "What are you drinking? I'm buying."


Alyssa turns to me and asks, "What do you want?"
I say: "That's so sweet of you to ask to buy me something, but he
offered first."
I tell Bruce I'll have a Bud. Alyssa busts me saying, that's so gay and only
gay guys drink Bud.

I say, "Damn straight! Just the gayest for me,"

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Then I spank her on the ass. Her friend busts up laughing.


When Bruce returns with drinks, we all sit. Then I pull Alyssa up to stand
with me next to the spot. We lean against the wall and talk ... Low, quiet, and
intense!
I tell her why I moved here. How after losing the girl that I thought was

the one,
I knew I needed to go live life as fully as I could. She tells me about
her family. We don't talk much, or that deep, but it feels like more.
I keep her next to me. Tell her she has amazing lips, and that our first kiss
will be a great one.

She says, "You are so confident." and smiles.


Ask her about her favorite body part, and she says her ass is world-class. I
spin her around to check, feel, and confirm.

Then remind her, "It's nice, but not quite as nice as mine."
She smiles. I lean in and sniff her neck, whispering how she smells
delicious and begin nibbling her neck. I feel her body go limp against mine.
I stay there for weeks. Stand up. No kiss ... too public! Little more talk and
suddenly her friend pops up.

Friend: "We need girl talk." I fumble a bit, snapped out of the moment.
"Uh, OK. You guys have your girl talk. Seriously, I need to go hang with
my friends. You monopolized all my time."
I go back to the front of the bar and chat up everyone I can find. Practice
talking to groups with guys in them by walking up to guys and girls and saying
to him.

"Dude, I know you know this, but this girl is trouble."


Then turn to the girl and say, "Yeah you. You were supposed to watch
out for me tonight. Then those two midget strippers were all over me,
and where were you?"

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This is a fun opener for mixed sets. Remember that confusion causes
attraction. Great fun! Always gets me in with the girl and confuses the hell
out of the guys. So I circulate and check back on Alyssa. Gone. Look around
back. Nope. Check front. Nothing!
KHHHHAAAAAANNNNN!
I am so pissed at myself. We were vibing so well. I totally forgot logistics:
her friend, other guys, and the general chaos of a hoping bar in general.
Always get some close early, just in case. Damn it. I acted all casual and
now she's gone. And that real, solid, sexual connection just poof! Up in
smoke. You always want to get a girl
s phone number 25 minutes in. That
way, if there are logistical problems or you lose track of her, you can still call.
So I game a little more, but I'm bummed. It was just a stupid fuck-up on
my part.
So I walk outside to lean against the wall and smoke pensively. Chat with
some other dudes out there and tell them the story about the one that got
away.
Suddenly a flash in front of me, it's Alyssa, being led out by Bruce Willis.
Here's the sweet part.
He sees me and deftly moves her to his outside so he's in-between me and
her. Nice footwork for a big dude.
Now she sees me ... and waves her arm behind his back. There's
something in her hand. I reach out without looking and take it. She no-look
passed me her card. Dude had no idea.
So what happened? Call her card on the Monday following (work card).
Chat her up at work. Fun, sexy banter. She's fun. Can't connect schedules for
two weeks. Finally set up a date.
She drives across Bay to meet at my house. She arrives. Fucking dolled up.
Just a lovely, lovely girl. I pick her up in a hug and tell her she smells great.

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We walk inside, so I can get my jacket. She pets my cute dogs and says hi
to my room-mate. We walk out along the flower-lined street to a local pub to
watch hockey (she loves the Sharks). I stop at one point and pin her against
the wall and sniff her hair... then pull back and just look.
She can't take it. She reaches up to pull me in for a kiss. I stop her... wait
one second, then pull her back for a kiss. Yep, nothing better than a goodnight kiss at the start of the date.
The rest?
Watch the game. Drink beers. Chat with all my friends in the bar. All my
friends and bartenders hit on her and call her gorgeous.
We walk home. I pull her into my room to show her something. Cue up end
scene from Scrooged where Bill Murray is explaining the meaning of
Christmas. Turn lights off, close door tight. No questions, no qualms. Behind
closed doors. A gentleman never tells. :-)
She is a lovely girl; definite keeper material.
Lessons learned:
Always be on point with everyone. Seduce the room and the ones you really
want will just end up with you. Keep your head up and keep at it because
when it's working, nothing can stop it. And use every other guy as just
another ally to make it clear that you, and only you, are the best man for her.

To learn more about Shawn Messenger, check out www.LV03.com

LR - HOW TOECUTTER
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t
e. Nick (Savoy)
is President and CEO of Love Systems Corporation and is the author of
Magic Bullets, our "bible" of dating science and social dynamics. He
loves adventure and a challenge. After college, he traveled the world for
several years, managing international businesses in Europe, the Middle
East, and South Africa.

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He started by gambling at backgammon for food and travel money


across Turkey and finished by helping raise financing in Slovakia for
Europe's most promising low-cost airline, Sky Europe. He has an MBA
from Wharton and an Honors Degree in History from McGill University in
Montreal. Love Systems Corp. is just one of his successful startups,
several coming before the age of 30. He has also consulted several
Fortune 500 companies around the world on business strategy.
Based on transcribing a voice mail I left myself. I left my voice mail on and
tried to remember what the chicks were saying.
Props to Toecutter's palm reading routine, which I get into once I'm well
into the FR.
True disciples of this, or any other routine, will be disappointed. I brutally
amend stuff so it's easier to do. Props, of course to everyone else since this is
almost all canned material and props to Lovedrop for actually showing me how
to use the material.
Anyway, I don't usually do palms, because I associate that with sleazy PU
tactics. And because I usually use a shortened version of the cube as a bridge
to go from f2m attract straight through m2f attract. [I make her tell me how
right I was from 1-10; it's almost always a 9 or 10. I get the cheek kiss, and
then I say it's not like my first impression of her at all. Then I make up a bad
first impression that reflects her insecurities and say I'm a lot more curious
about her now. Then i
t

si
nt
ocomf
or
t
]Doing the cube and doing palm reading
felt like overkill.
But on Tuesday, I was trying some new stuff out. I approach a set of three
girls (an 8, a 7, a 6) and one drunk guy. The guy (he wasn't an AMOG, just a
tool) was kind of cuddly with the HB8. Didn't matter. I was testing new stuff.
The opener here is really long. I felt like I had to make it long while I was
trying to figure out what the drunk guy was about.

S
a
v
oy
:

He
yg
uy
s
.
.
.
GUYS!
[They were ignoring me the first time].
S
a
v
oy
:

We're having this serious conversation over there, and we


need another opinion. I know this is a bar and everything, but this
is probably going to affect the rest of our lives. Are you guys ready

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to answer a really important question?[


Good example of what to
doi
ft
hes
etdoe
s
n
tr
es
pondr
i
g
hta
wa
yhe
r
e.
]
Drunk Guy:
He
yma
n,
wher
ey
ouf
r
om?

Savoy:
Okay, so here it is: dental floss. Do you brush before flossing or
floss before brushing?

Drunk Guy:
Bro, that's an awesome line!
Savoy [to DrunkGuy
]
:
Hey, I didn't come over here for blank looks and
I don't know. You g
uy
sdon'
tbr
us
hy
ourt
ee
t
h?

B6, B7, B8: [Start talking about this. I don't usually listen here; just try
to pick up cues on BL and plan what comes next]
Savoy:
Yeah cool, thanks.
Drunk guy:
Where you f
r
om?

Savoy:
What? Nah, doesn't matter. I was born in Montreal."[Turn
back]
Drunk guy:
Do you say eh? a
f
t
ere
v
er
y
t
hi
ng
?

Savoy:
Hey, while I'm here... I want to get a female opinion on
s
ome
t
hi
ng
.
I turn to look back at crowd where my friends
presumably are. If my friends come over here, we're not talking
about t
hi
s
,
ok
a
y
?
Woul
da
nyofy
oug
uy
sdate a friend of your exboyfriend?
Good example of stacking openers. Generally, youdon
twantt
ost
ackt
wo
opinion openers back to back like this. Butbecausehedi
dn
taskf
oran
opinion the first time, he can now ask for another opinion without being the
opinion guy.

Chi
c
k
s
:

I forget what they were saying. Doesn't matter, but it's usually
no. It doesn't matter what they say although this opener sometimes
gives a clue if a chick has a boyfriend, because sometimes they'll say
things like I am."
Thi
si
sani
mpor
t
antpoi
ntf
ort
hosewhouseopi
ni
onopener
s.I
tdoesn
t
mat
t
erwhatt
hegi
r
l
st
hi
nkaboutt
heopi
ni
onquest
i
on.I
t

sj
ustawayt
ost
ar
t
a conversation. I see so many students have twenty minute conversations
about jealous girlfriends or whether men or women lie more. The opinion here
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doesn
tmat
t
er
. So you can ignore it and continue with the rest of your opener
or move the conversation to a different topic.

Savoy:
Cool. Thanks. [turn to leave], [turn back] Well, okay, how long
doy
ouha
v
et
owa
i
t
?

Savoy: [Keep looking at chicks. My guess - wrong as it turned out - is


that this guy had drunkenly wandered over to them and was buying
them drinks. Befriending him would have just lowered my status
with them.]
This is key:
You always want to ask how everyone knows each other right after the opener
whenyouopenmi
xedset
s.Youhavet
of
i
gur
eoutwhatt
hegi
r
l

sr
el
at
i
onshi
p
is with any guy in the set as it affects how you are going to game her.

Chicks:
Never!
[At least one of them said never, I forget what the rest
said.]
Savoy:
Oh my God. You guys are terrible. I come over here with an
argument, and youg
uy
st
a
k
emyf
r
i
end'
ss
i
de
!

[Starting to put the


bait on]
HB7:
You have to decide if your friendship is worth more than this girl.

[
t
ookba
i
t
]
Savoy:
No, that's not the way it is. [look back to friends], [pause] Okay,
I'll tell you the story really quick, but then I have to get back to
them. You guys have to be quick, okay? So I was having a party last
Friday [Sitting down as I talk, between HBs7 and 6.], and my exgirlfriend was there. My friends know I've been trying to set her up
for a while, but one of my friends who likes her says she was being
we
i
r
d.

Drunk guy:
Doy
ous
a
yeh?after everything?
Savoy: [talking over him]
Because he's my friend. But I don't think a
girl would feel weird about dating her ex's friends, do you? I mean,
I'd love it if they got together. He's a super guy. I've known him
since I was 6, and she's a cool girl. She used to model, and she's in
l
a
ws
c
hool
now.

Chicks:
Did you break upwi
t
hherorwha
t
?

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Savoy: I only broke up with her because I thought we did better as


friends than as a girlfriend...hey...you guys [point at B7 and B6] are
making...the exact same...facial expressions.
Chicks HB7 and 6:
We're roommates.
Savoy:
Oh my god. And like every time I ask you guy
s something you
like turn to look at each other real quick.
Best Friends Test

Chicks: [laughing]
Savoy:
You're like little powerpuff girls. Like, if I didn't have to go right
now, I would totally [pause] adopt you guys. [pause] I would dress
[pause] [point to HB6] you in a red...PVC...DEVIL costume with a
pitchfork...and hornsand bitch boots. [pause for laughter] And
you, point to HB7] I'd give you a white angel outfit [pause] with
halo...and wings. And we'd roll down the street, and every time
there was a decision to be made, you guys would argue over what's
most fun. And whatever is the most fun thing to do, we'll dot
ha
t
.

TD
sAngel
/
Devi
lRoleplay

HB7 and 6: [laughing]


Savoy:
Pinky swear.
[do pinky swear]
HB8:
Wha
twoul
dy
oudr
es
smea
s
?

Savoy:
Comeher
e
,
l
etmes
e
ey
ou.
[HB8 gets up from beside the guy
and walks over to the other end of the table.]
Savoy:
Hey, stop. Show me your hand again?
HB8: [shows hand]
Savoy:
Oh my god.
[long eye contact]
HB8:
What?!?
Savoy:
Your palm. It's likeforget it. Hey guys, [back to the other HBs]
Is your friend really outgoing?(A good example of a baiting here.)

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HB6 and 7: [laughs]


Savoy:
Yeah, I can see that. See, everything's written on your palm.
Like, from birth. [To HB6 and 7] Sowher
ea
r
ey
out
wof
r
om?

[Notice that I'm leaving the HB8 standing there beside me, away
from the drunk guywho's probably STILL asking me if I say "eh"
after everything.
while re-engaging her friends and making them
laugh]
HB8:
You read palms? Oh my god, I l
ov
et
ha
t
.
Rea
dmypa
l
m?

Savoy: [
pa
us
e]
Wait your turn. [To HB6 and 7] Is she always like this?
[To HB8] Alright, alright, but then I really gotta go, okay?(Two
good teases)
HB8:
Ok
Savoy:
Ok, relax your fingers. Relax. I'm going to explain this to you
first so that you know where we're going....this is your head line.
This is your life line. This is your heart line. Most of the time, that's
where most of the interesting things show up. But what caught my
attention about you are a couple of the more advanced lines. See,
here's your line of fate. Yours stops straight at the head line. I'm
going out on a limb here, but it feels to me like that when you were
a kid....or even a teenager...something happened. Something made
you grow up really fast or become an adult before you were ready.
(This is a great cold read that can make girls cry when done
correctly.)
HB8:
Ohmyg
od.

Savoy:
Tha
tmus
tha
v
ebee
nr
ea
l
l
yha
r
d.
[
pause]
Savoy:
But look at it this way. I can see that you're obviously a very
passionate person inside. You try to hide it a lot, and I can relate to
that. But deep inside that shell, you're a deeply emotional person
a
r
e
n'
ty
ou?

HB8:
Oh my god.[This was pretty much all she was saying.]
Savoy:
And since that goes straight to your love line, that's where we'll
go next. See, when you were a little girl, you wanted a Prince
Charming. And you always thought a Prince Charming would just walk
into your life without you having to do anything and everything would
just feel so perfect. You know that feeling you still sometimes get
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when something just feels so right, like right after you make a big
decision or the moment you realize that you're with the right
pe
r
s
on?

HB8:
Yeah. Oh my god. But how do you find the right person? How do
you find someone like that?
Savoy:
But your problem...here...is that you have a caged heart. [Make
cage over her heart. She holds and squeezes my hand when it's on
her chest. I pull back, maybe not the right thing to do] It's like bars
on a jail cell sometimes. You don't let people in easily, but once
they're in, they're in forever. Even if you had your Prince
Charming right in front of you, you might not know what to do or
how to get his attention.

HB8:
Oh my God.
Savoy:
You know that feeling of seeing something - like a piece of
clothing or an apartment or a friend - for the first time but being so
curious about it? Just knowing in the back of your mind that it's
right, even if part of you is afraid to admit it? You have a good
intuition, buty
oudon'
ta
l
wa
y
sf
ol
l
owi
t
.

HB8:
Ohmy God.
Savoy:
And look, you'
r
ef
er
t
i
l
e
!

HB8:
What?
Savoy:
See these l
i
ne
sont
hes
i
deofy
ourha
nd?

HB8:
My friend told me that you can see how many children you'll
have .

Savoy:
That's not t
hewa
ywedi
di
ti
nmyf
a
mi
l
y
.

HB8:
That was so amazing.
Savoy:
On a scale from 1-10,
howr
i
g
htwa
sI
?

HB8:
L
i
k
ea9.
5
Savoy:
Cool.[point at cheek] [cheek kiss]
HB8:
Wha
t
'
sy
ourna
me
?

HB6 and 7:
We have to go.
Savoy:
Youg
oi
ngba
c
kt
oPBBa
r&Gr
i
l
l
?

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HBs:
Yeah.
Savoy:
Awesome. [ToHB8]T
a
k
ec
a
r
e,
ok
a
y
?

HB8:
But what if I nev
e
rs
eey
oua
g
a
i
n?

Savoy:
Is that a hint?[pause]
Savoy:
I dunno. I don't like taking numbers at bars. And you're drunk,
you'll be weird tomorrow.
This is a good false takeaway on the phone number exchange. It makes
the girl argue for why you should take her number. The more people work for
things, the more they value it.

HB8:
No,
I won't. I promise I won'
t
.

Savoy:
Well....ok, I'll make you a deal.
HB8:
What?
Savoy:
I'll take your number if you make me promise.
HB8:
Wha
t
'
st
ha
t
?

Savoy:
When I call, I don't want you to be like "oh hi!" I want you to be
like "oh my god, Savoy, I'm so glad you called. We're going to go out
and have a great time."
HB8:
Okay.
Savoy:
And you hav
et
oa
ns
weront
hef
i
r
s
tr
i
ng
.

HB8:
What if I'm not near the phone? I'm out from 3 to 7 tomorrow.
Savoy:
I'll call you at 2:30. Pinky swear.[grab pinkies]
Because of the logistics, I briefly contemplated flaking on the call, but
decided it wasn't necessary. She got it on the second ring, we made plans for
that night, and it all worked out
Another good idea:
Tel
l
i
ngt
hegi
r
lwhenyou
r
egoi
ngt
ocal
lhersoshecanexpectt
hecal
landbe
around her phone. You can also call five minutes later to make her wait a bit
and build value.

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This report is from late 2004/ear


l
y2005.Savoy
sgamehasgot
t
enmuch
better since this report. To learn more about Savoy go to
www.lovesystems.com.

LR - COLD APPROACHES IN SOUTH FLORIDA: BRAD P


Our next LR comes from the amazing Brad P of BradPpresents.com. Brad
i
sanamazi
ngI
nnovat
oraswel
lasoneoft
hebestguysI

veseeni
nf
i
el
d.
The legendary Brad P began his journey to mastery in 2004 by spending 7
days a week going out, meeting women and learning from the greatest
Naturals ever to walk the earth. Already being an expert in psychology and
philosophy, he quickly developed a reliable, repeatable method for meeting,
attracting, seducing, and dating top tier women anywhere his travels took
him.
By 2005, word of Brad's success had spread so quickly that he began
teaching "The Underground Dating Seminar" in the top floor of a pizza place in
New York City. After only a few weeks of classes, the good news was
spreading faster still, and men would travel from hundreds of miles away to
attend the seminars. From these humble beginnings, a movement took root
that would reach far corners of the globe.
In 2006, Brad was discovered by "The Seduction Community" and gave
lectures at the "Cliff's List Convention." He would later be interviewed by other
seduction community legends such as David DeAngelo, The Mystery Method,
Pickup 101, and David Shade.
Brad soon added more coaches to the roster and made his teaching
available worldwide on audio CDs. We're pleased to report that Brad's seminar
CDs have been ordered and listened to in more than 100 countries.
As the body of dating and seduction literature has continued to mature,
Brad has turned his attention to developing the most efficient and effective
methods for teaching men to succeed with women. In his latest report on the
state of dating literature, Brad states:
The race to come up with the best system for picking up women is over.
It's been over for years. In the year 2008, there exists a multitude of
internally consistent systems for seducing and dating women. The problem is
that most of the men who apply these methods don't have the intangibles to
implement them.

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The real challenge is to create a teaching method that empowers the


student with intangibles within a realistic time frame. It shouldn't take four
years to become proficient in dating and seduction. This is unacceptable. In
2008, I will release a new curriculum that will make men proficient in dating
and seduction in 12 months or less. This is my mission.
FLORIDA REPORT
Here's my report on a week down in south Florida. Some if it I wrote during
the week, the rest I'm writing right now on the plane to L.A. where I'll be from
Tuesday through Thursday this week. It's a long report, but it has a happy
ending
I came down to Florida a few days ago to do some sarging outside my
comfort zone and to do some teaching down here as well. When people found
out I was coming, I started to get emails about how southern Florida is so
tough to sarge in. Style and all these other gurus got shut down when they
came down here. I'm thinking it can't possibly be as tough as NYC, and,
besides, last time I was here I pulled on the first night.
Well, actually, it has been a tough area, but it was just what I needed right
now for the adjustments I'm making to my game. The last few months I've
been doing club game and social circle building. I hear it all the time in the
community -- people say "build your social circle," but then there's no method
or instruction to go along with that advice.
I'm not sure that advice is really helping anyone. So I spent a few months
researching it and developing a method which I will release once I have
written it up. I already gave one live talk on it, and I'm doing another in LA.
Now I'm transitioning my game back to cold approaches. Back in NYC, I
have little motivation to do cold approaches. There's a bit of cold approaching
involved in the club game I was doing, but nothing really substantial. I was
getting lots of lays off the club social circle stuff, and I already had a stable of
5 FBs. So who the hell needs to go sarge a fucking bookstore when you could
be home having sex....or in a bookstore having sex....
Now I'm out of my comfort zone, getting back into the cold approach
gameback to getting # closes, back to doing day 2s. It's funny. I thought it
would be like it used to be back when I was learning. But it's almost like the
social circle stuff has added a new dimension to my cold approach game.
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You might wonder why the hell a guy with 5 FBs and who's getting 15
minute lays from club game would leave town to do cold approaches in a
strange town where he knows no one. Well, right now I'm feeling like it's
essential for me to walk in the shoes of the people who are just learning. I
want to feel the cold blast of blowouts again.
It's been a while. I went from learning approach and all the basics to
having quite a bit of success to teaching to designing a system for openers to
learning to retain as many as 10 girls at once to learning threesomes to club
game to social circle building....and now I want to revisit the cold approaches.
My work on social circle is done. I'm curious how it's going to affect other
parts of my game.
So here's what I've been up to the last few days. First day of sarging in
Florida was the hardest. I went to this place Coyote Ugly in Ft. Lauderdale.
They have these chicks dancing up on the bar just like in the movie, which
kind of puts every guy in the place into a beta frame. I kinda tried to ignore
them, but it was hard
causethey were fucking HOT!
First set was this DJ chick from the local rock station. She didn't really blow
me out, but she wasn't particularly nice to me either. So I moved on to the
chicks who were handing out free lighters and crap. They kind of had to be
nice; but it was totally fake, and you could tell they're just doing their job. I
try to talk to the dancing bartender, HB10, on the bar but can't get her
attention. When she's done I ask her, "Did we sleep together last week?" She
laughs and walks away. There weren't really a lot of people in the place, and
this is why I ended up opening all the hired guns first.
Here Brad makes the most of his time. This is one of the key differences
bet
weenguyswhogetgoodandguyswhodon
t. The guys who get good
maximize their time in field by talking to every set they can. Remember this
the nextt
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hatsucks.

I see a hot chick down at the end with some guys. I decide to make some
adjustments, and I open the guys first. They don't even know her so it doesn't
end up helping at all. I turn to her and ask directions to some place nearby.
Good response off that. Turns out she is with a guy; it's just a different guy
than I thought.
The guy is this dorky older guy, and this chick is smoking hot. I get up
close and she looks older but still hot. She has the hugest breasteses. We
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start talking, and she tells me she's 40. I rarely even talk to girls in their 30s,
but this is the hottest 40-year old I've ever seen in my life.
I talk to the guy too. I start teasing the girl. She's asking how tall I am; I
tell her 5'9 even though I'm 6'5. I stand her up next to me and start some
aggressive kino. She's totally turned on, and BT is shooting through the roof. I
could not believe it myself. She kissed me on the cheek and the neck a few
times. I'm a little leery of the guy while all this is going on. Tonguing her down
is not strategic here. It's too early in the set, and I don't know the status of
this guy. I'm all alone in this place with no one to back me up if things get
hairy.
Soon she gives me a big IOI telling me flat out that the guy is just her
roommate. I tease her a little more then I make a snap decision to try for a
bathroom pull. The logistics are super bad with this guy here, and this girl
seems to know all the bartenders who are absolute snotty bitches.
So I do some perv testing on her. She fails. She is creeped out, and I've
blown the set out. This is an intentional blowout. If you want to make an
omelet, you gotta break some eggs. Staying in longer would have probably
been a waste of time. It was a soft blowout so I re-initiate contact later, and
she is cool with talking to me. She invites me to see her at the bar where she
bartends. I tell her maybe.
This is a great exampl
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testing is the idea of slowly introducing topics of a sexual nature in a friendly
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seminal Interviews with Naturals CD with The Pheromone Kid.
The lesson to take away here is that blowouts are not your enemy. Your
enemy is the 25 minute set to nowhere. Think about it like this. If you are
going out specifically to meet girls you want to have sex with, you have a
limited amount of time. In most cities, you are going to have somewhere
between 4-6 hours if you start at 10 PM. So you want to maximize the use of
your time by gaming the girls most likely to get sexual with you.
After this set, I approach a four set of tourists. The chicks are busted
looking so I eject. It was just a set to stay social. I f
l
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twi
t
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he
f
r
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i
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er

chicks some more, and they take a picture grabbing my ass. It was contrived
and retarded. I pull one girl's hair really blatantly, which she doesn't take well
to, but not a major problem. I flirt again with the radio DJ. This time it's a bit
better because I do some aggressive kino.
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But again, I'm dealing with a girl whose ego is flying high
causeshe's kind
of a local celebrity around here with the radio station and all. I leave that set
as neutral. It didn't really hook, but I made my presence known and didn't do
anything needy or stupid, which is probably better than most guys do. I decide
this place is sarged out, and I decide to go across the street. Out of all those
sets, only one really hooked.
First few lessons on Ft. Lauderdale: The tendency here seems to be that a
lot of these girls are spring break leftovers who never left. Tons of girls are
working as bartenders. Some are pretty old, but you can tell they were
insanely hot a few years ago. Even now, they're like 8-9 in their 30s. I even
saw women in their 40s with massive natural tits, crazy tanned up, spring
break style.
The young bartender chicks are crazy hot as well but they fly around the
place at lightning speed making drinks. It's tough to get a word in edgewise.
The bar industry is just massive here. So the chicks have seen it all. They are
weathered and wise. These chicks have very strong frame and pretty tight
game. They are very good at avoiding attraction and staying logical. They
have a focus on their social agenda. The moment attraction takes a dip they
immediately try to invite you to see them at the bar they work at, converting
you into an orbiter. This happened several times throughout the night.
Next place I walk in and do horse girl on two blondes at the bar.
Brad P
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(She will usually mock forgive you.) Hug, Hug, Hug.

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I hooked them pretty decent. I don't know why the hell I didn't just do
horse girl before. They think I'm funny, but I can tell they're thinking I'm a
little weird too.

One of them says, "So where are you off to all gothed out?"
Mental Note:
I need to take my look down a notch or two. This isn't NYC. The chicks aren't
used to seeing a guy like me just walking around talking to people.
I manage to get through that and win them over. The friend leaves me
alone with the target and says "help yourself" and points to her. Wow, that's a
new experience!
We're shooting the shit. The girl just came off a bad break-up so I'm
thinking this is either great because she needs revenge or this is bad
cause
she's hung up on the guy. Turns out she was hung up, just got dumped, and
she's not in slut mode yet. She's just in depressed mode. I give her a bit of
sound relationship advice just to pass the time. We skip to other topics.
I'm getting really good kino off this girl.
The set is going better than anything else had been going that night. In
comes another friend. I'm vibing with them, etc. Surprise, my target girl is a
bartender! I look behind me, and the hot 40 year old is sitting a few seats
away watching intently.
I've kind of lost interest in her, I could have used her as a pawn somehow,
but I decide to wait and see if it's going to be strategic to do that. I just told
the other three, "check out my stalker over there." In the bathroom, they all
run into each other; and HB40yo gets all weird on the two friends of my
target.
She starts bragging, "How old do you think I am? ... I'm 40, and I don't
have a stitch of makeup on, etc." (She
sprobably trying to raise her ego back
up since I didn't try to go talk to her.) The two girls were telling me how weird
she is so I decided that flirting with her in front of my target would look too
low value in this instance.
I end up telling her that I know all these advanced sexual techniques. One
of the friends is some kind of a marriage therapist so she starts testing me like
crazy. We talk about the deepspot, the G spot, etc. Wow, the mainstream

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educated people really don't know shit. She's trying to DHV on me by telling
me about studies that show the G spot doesn't exist because there are "No
neurons inside the vagina."
I tell her it's really more about skene glands, but she doesn't really want to
hear it. She's saying how I can get arrested for doing a class like I do without
being certified which is BS. Anyway, the chicks end up leaving, and I can't get
a number close out of this chick. She is totally negative and depressed
cause
of being dumped. She invites me to come see her at the bar where she works.
I tell her, "I'm not gonna chase you around like a dork."
Orbiter Invitation #2.
I do one more set before I leave. I do a really bad situational opener, and
the girls blow me out instantly. I stay and plow for a minute, but then I just
have to laugh this one off as my worst set EVER!
OK, so far I'm finding that the girls in Ft. Lauderdale generally are not fun.
They don't really laugh much. They don't like to joke around or flirt as much
as other chicks. There's this grim sense of purpose about them; I can't put my
finger on it really. It's like they go out to bars not to have fun, but to do some
kind of a job. They really seem like they're at work.
Wednesday, I go out and do day game. I've adjusted my clothing a bit for
the fact that this is not a major urban area. I got bad advice on a venue and
end up in this mall where a lot of old people are walking around. This is how it
goes when you solo sarge a lot. Sometimes you end up in situations that
absolutely suck. But I wouldn't have it any other way. This is all good stuff
that builds your frame. I see some girls with their mom in the food court. Mom
and daughter1 leave daughter2 alone at the table. In I go with the Carson

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"What.....the hell.... is up with Carson Daly? That guy's just not funny.
How did he get his own show? I watched the whole thing just to give
it a chance, and I didn't laugh once. It was painful to watch. They
must pay the audience to show up and laugh. They never show the
audi
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her
there's probably only 10 people there....."

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This is girl is damn near flatlining in front of me. It was like talking to a
corpse. Mom and daughter come back, and the Mom is getting a kick out of
the whole thing. Both daughters just stand there looking at me funny.
Okaaaaay then....
Next set, a girl is coming down the escalator with me. I run horse girl. She
listens to the whole thing, but there's no hook. She looks at me like I have
nine dicks growing out of my forehead.
Next set is a blond with free tea to give out at the tea shop. I talk to her
for about 10 minutes, but it's not hooking much so I eject.
Next set is the girl at the sunglass booth. I ask her where to find cotton
candy around here. She barely speaks English. She doesn't even know what
cotton candy is. We talk about the circus for a while. I get bored and eject.
Out of the mall to the bar next door. It's very upscale and I'm pretty
underdressed due to the aforementioned adjustments. In I go. First set, I try
this internet date opener I got from a friend of RSD Geoff. The line was really
good, and so the chicks were basically like "Great line! Now get the fuck out of
here!" I go ahead on a 2nd set with it, and the girl claims to have heard it
before. So I say no prob, I have another one; and I do horse girl. They say it's
the longest pickup line they've ever heard.
These girls are kind of hostile, but they gave me some good info. They said
something to the effect of, "Don't you know that women in south Florida are
only looking for guys with money and sugar daddies? They really don't care
about anything else. You may be funny, but who the hell cares." I told them
I'm just looking for sugar mommas. I ask if they're married to a rich guy

causethat would be perfect. They say no. I tell them they're in my friend
zone. We banter a bit, but they eventually blow me out with, "Nice meeting
you." I tell them nice meeting you too, and then I backturn on them without
actually leaving the area. I'm still standing like two feet from them.
I know when you blowout there's a tendency to want to run away with your
tail between your legs and get as far away from the girls as possible. In my
case I don't really mind blowouts; they're actually a necessary part of my
game. I want all the girls who are anti-fun or anti-sex to show their true colors
as quickly as possibly by either blowing me out or looking confused by my
banter. It just makes my life easier when they do that in the first three

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minutes. In this case, it took like 7-8 minutes so that's kind of a waste, but
what are you gonna do.
The reason I didn't leave the area was because I wanted it to look like I
was dissing them. This saves face a bit more with so many other chicks
around. It probably looks like I was talking to some people I know, and now
I'm done talking to them. I backturn on them, stand up tall and proud. I'm
relaxed. I'm ready to look for the next target. I turn my attention to the guys
setting up their drums and guitars on the stage behind the bar. Looks like cool
shit! I sit down in a stool, and I'm still directly next to the girls from the last
set. They're cut out of my world.
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and being embarrassed by it. Most of the time no one will notice blowouts if
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Seconds later, I get opened by a HB10 who tells me, "You look like a rock
star." I tell her, "Very observant. I am a rock star." We talk for about 20
minutes. She's kinoing me quite a bit, but she's married. I can tell she's a
good girl, and I don't want to sarge her. She's got so much positive energy
that it's a pleasure just to speak with her. She's telling me this whole long
story about how she met her husband in Venezuela when he was there as a
pro rugby player. And now she's living in the USA, and she owns three
businesses. It's so nice to meet people like this. She gives me her card and
says to call anytime. I can tell it's just a networking thing, but what a nice
experience.
I'm plotting my next move. I don't know where the hell I am or where to
go. I've been getting blown out more than usual. Not one set has hooked yet
in day game. Not a number close yet. Not a kiss close -- nothing.
I realize I have to make more adjustments. I check my walk and my eye
contact, and they're not as strong as they need to be for cold approaching. I
fix those two things and sarge on.
I head out to a different area; back to where I had done night game the
night before.
First set is two girls on the street. They're standing in front of a concert
venue, and I ask who's playing tonight. They say no one. We shoot the shit for
a while. The set is hooking OK so I try to venue change them. They're really
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lame and going home early. They tell me they'll come see me this weekend if
I'm around this area. Off they go.
I can tell my game is snapping back into place. The EC and BL adjustments
were very helpful. It changed my whole vibe.
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going well on a given night or even a given approach, try something different!
This is a game of adjustments.
Next set is two girls at the bar. The bar is filled with people from a kickball
team (yes, you read that right, a kickball team). I ask them if they're from the
dodgeball league. They say no. I stack some material. Lesbian DTR opener,
Oprah Winfrey Opener. These girls think I'm weird. They keep asking me if I'm
on drugs. We're not that compatible. They're not that hot. They're really
boring. We end up talking about real estate. DOWNER!!!
Next set -- I go into a place with a live cover band playing. I see a few two
sets. One girl drops her sandal, and I pick it up. The girl is into me right away.
The set was hooked before I even said anything. The friend was into me too.
We are kinoing like crazy. I spend about two hours in that set. That girl was
super cool. She was looking to chill with me longer, but the logistics were bad.
The friend had some drama going on with her BF which was killing the vibe. It
was kinda funny. Target girl was holding the friend's cell phone, and it would
keep vibrating (BF) against my leg. But she wouldn't answer or give it to her
friend
causeshe didn't want to leave yet. I # closed, and it's a super solid #.
She already texted me twice, and I'm fairly certain I will bang this girl on a
day2 this week.
Next set, I walk past coyote ugly, and one of the bartenders is giving me
IOIs through the window. I go talk to her, and she's not too responsive. Also,
she's ugly up close. YIKES! Amazing what kind of deception can occur when
makeup and distance team up! I chat up the girl at the door just to stay social
and go back across the street.
I see this girl doing a weird booty shaking dance. I go up to her and do the
exact same dance. Everyone is watching. The girl puts her arms around me. I
smile and then walk away with a grossed out look on my face. Awww, that
was mean! It was fun though. Ha!Ha!
Now I see the DJ girl from the night before, and she's all happy to see me.
WTF? I walk over, and she's all over me. She's kissing me on the face and
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neck. She's introducing me to people everywhere. I meet this other cool chick.
I hang with them for an hour. Both girls give me their # and say let's hang out
for sure. Very solid # closes. DJ girl says she will take me to all the cool
parties for the rest of the week. (Possible full close with either of these
chicks.)
DJ girl asks me to come to a sleepover party at someone's pool on
Saturday night. I'm not sure what changed overnight or what I did to win this
chick over, but it looks like I'm socially proofed for the rest of the week. I get
a kiss close with her at the end of the night, and all is well.
I go back in, and I had seen this insanely hot chick come in with a guy
earlier. I have my eye on them. I'm not gonna sarge the chick because they're
obviously together. I'm trying to figure out what she's attracted to in this guy.
The guy seems kind of average. He's fairly tall and well built but nothing
crazy...looksl
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sSpanish with a curly afro.
When they came in, they went straight to the restroom. Now I go back in
and I see them putting something in their nose....a ha! ...coke head chick and
her drug dealer! Game is now in full force. I guess I just needed to shake off
the rust and regain my old zip with these cold approaches. Three solid #s and
a kiss close in two days, but they all came in the last three hours.
What made my game snap back into gear? It's very simple. Adjustments.
To succeed, you must adjust. Some people just do what they do and if it
doesn't work, then they fail. Successful people make adjustments, and failure
is something that is never permanent. To me, there is no failure, only
setbacks. I firmly believe that you could drop me anywhere on god's green
earth, and I would get pussy with a few days at the most.
South Florida game is different than NYC. I've been optimized for NYC for
the last eight months. Now I've got to get back to something that works in the
rest of the country.
Thursday afternoon, I get a text from the chick from the cover band place.
I call back and set up a day2 for tonight. She's talking about how she wants to
get married soon, etc. Not sure where this is going, but I will try to sway her
into a little detour off the marriage path.
She shows up at the hotel bar to meet me around 12 Midnight. We hang
there for a while. Get some drinks. She keeps talking about this marriage
thing. Her friend got married, and it's making her feel she needs to get
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married ASAP. So I had someone in the bar perform a marriage ceremony for
us and did some role playing with that. I get her up to my room using Dance
Dance Revolution as the bait.
This is something I have in the works right now. I went and got the home
version of DDR. It costs like $20 on eBbay. I set it up in my hotel room. Then
I talk about DDR until the chick says she wants to play. I tell her I know where
there's a DDR machine, then we end up back in my hotel room. Still in the
testing phase. It seemed to help somewhat to have that pretense for going
back to the room.
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We played a few rounds then I escalated a few times. And each time, she
started laughing and said, "I can't do this." So I got a bit of making out in, but
other than that, she failed the audition. This girl is in a marriage panic right
now; I think that may have something to do with it. Side note: She directly
asked me how much money I make a few times. She also showed other signs
that she's pretty into me. She was very direct about expressing that. She
made me brownies and brought them with her. She cuddled me really
intensely but didn't do well with the kissing thing.
The bottom line is this chick is very interested, but she's not sexually
comfortable with herself or something. I can tell she's got some kind of
problem so I've got to next her. I decide to get her out ASAP so I still have a
chance to call some other girls and maybe get something else going on. I
firmly believe that I deserve to be with women who are highly sexual and who
can at least be comfortable enough to make out with me in a normal healthy
way on a day2. I did all the proper escalating, stayed persistent, etc. I know
what the fuck I'm doing here, and, with most girls, it works every time.
I walked her to the car to get the brownies. She kept talking and talking;
she could probably sense I had lost interest. I gave her a hug and sent her on
her way. She texted me five minutes later with some mushy stuff about
cuddling. It's very cute and all, but I only have a few more days here so she's
not getting another call or a text back. Tomorrow is Friday, and that's a full
day workshop. Saturday is a day2 with the chick I pulled last time I was in
West Palm Beach. Sunday is free, and Monday night, if I'm here, I'll probably
hang with any other girls but tonight's girl.
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I get back and get on the phone with radio DJ girl. It's 2:30 AM, but if she's
out partying, I may be able to get her to stop by. She picks up the phone, and
I call her the wrong name (oops, Hehe!). But she's not sure who I am yet so
it's all good. She's at home in bed. She realizes who I am, and she's all
excited to talk to me. She gives a few direct SOIs, and we set up a day2 for
Sunday night.
Friday, is a teaching day. I end up doing a few approaches during demo
sets. One of the sets is a group of four black girls in the mall food court.
Clittease can tell you his take on this set as well because he was standing right
there. Clittease opened it, and when I saw he was about to eject, I came in
and took over the set so he could see me run some material.
I told the chicks I was his personal security guard so they better not fuck
with him. Then I started bitching about how all girls want to do is use me for
sex. The target girl had crazy nail polish so I talked about that a bit and how a
lot of the girls back in Queens have that. We started doing some pretty heavy
hand kino, and I knew she was 100% hooked.
I did rapport with her friends; we all exchanged names. I ran Brad Pitt
routine, smart tests, smart/hot/rich. This is my standard attract stack, and
they were loving it. I # close the target and tell the friends we'll have to go
out and take over the clubs in South Beach. They're so into that; they're
imagining us rolling into a club- four badass black chicks and a tall skinny
rocker guy. I didn't have paper on me so I took down her # and @ on a $20
bill. I tell her, "If I don't call, you'll know I spent it."
I texted her, two hours later. Then we talk for a while. She wants to hang
out tonight, but I gotta teach night game so I set her up for Sunday
afternoon. Sunday is looking good with her in the afternoon and the radio DJ
at night.
More sets during night game. My sets were pretty much all hooking at this
point. There was a lot of energy in the air. First set I was in, me and the girls
were putting ice down each other's shirts. Later sets, the girls would kino me
immediately. It was a good night.
Saturday, the last time I was in West Palm Beach I had a really fast pull
and fucked this six foot tall brunette chick in a parking lot. She drove down to
see me in Ft. Lauderdale, and it was pretty cool. Two BJs - one on videotape
with a facial. She didn't want to fuck because the guy she's dating has a small
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cock, and she's trying to tighten up fast before she fucks him. But she's a
great chick. Getting head from this girl is incredible. It's like better than actual
sex. She has probably the most responsive vagina I've ever seen. She had
four different types of orgasms within 15 minutes- clitoral (welcomed
method), front deep spot, back deep spot and g spot with squirting. It was her
first time squirting. A very nice night!
Afterwards, she gave me a lot of cool info on women and how they think.
This girl knows what I do, and she's all for it. I get a lot of good info that I can
use during pillow talk. In this case, she was talking about how it's hard for
women to get what they want sexually because if they directly say what they
want, they risk offending the guy. Back when I didn't know what I was doing,
I always wondered why they don't
Just say what you should do. It turns out most men are very sensitive, and
their confidence can easily be shaken in sexual situations. So women are
trying to be sensitive to that.
This girl said she will say stuff like, "Wow, it's a good thing you didn't bite
the back of my neck" in order to get what she wants sexually while not
offending the guy. Very interesting! She sub-communicates it. Makes me
wonder how much female communication becomes indirect as a result of
trying not to shake men's fragile egos.
Sunday, The black chick from the food court flaked out so ended up just
doing some other shit. I end up getting a number from a girl who approached
me in the daytime. She pretty much just walked up and handed me her # and
said call me. Her friends put her up to it. Then they walked away. It was
simply a result of sexy stereotyping.
I finish what I was doing that day, and as it turns out, I have to be at the
airport at 12 noon the next day so I need to get this chick in the same day or
not at all. I call her up and tell her really directly to come meet me at my
hotel. She says she can't do it tonight. I tell her I'm leaving tomorrow; she
says to wake up early and come meet her for coffee.
Now, I'm really not a fan of waking up early so I tell her I don'
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just bring me breakfast in bed
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no, and that I'll have to get up if I want to see her. I tell her, "Wait, a lot of
people are trying to talk to me here" and hang up on her. How's that for
willingness to walk? She's trying to play hardball with me, and I'm not having
it.
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I call the situation done, but she sends a few text messages. "I'd be more
than willing to come see you tomorrow morning, just tell me when and
where." I tell her, "I don't think it's gonna work out. I'm bad with mornings,
but you're sweet for offering." I call her and explain that logistics are not easy
here with me needing to go to the airport, not having a car, etc. The girl is
super duper into me. She's asking if I have a GF and all these other questions
that indicate she has a serious long term interest. I'm getting really weirded
out by this. I barely know this chick, and she's showing so much interest, I
think it's possible she could be psycho. I decide to just set it up; I can always
cancel later. So she's coming to the hotel at 10AM with cookies, and I tell her
to say "wakey, wakey" when she arrives. I gave her exact directions to my
room so I don't have to do anything but walk to the door in my underwear and
open it.
The DJ girl flaked out too
causeI waited too long to call her. But we finally
talked, and she really wants to hang out next time I'm in town; sounds good
to me.
I decide to revisit the black girl from the food court. I call her up, not
expecting to get an answer. She picks up. We talk a few minutes then I tell
her she should come over because she should do her homework while I pack.
And then we should go out for a while and beat people up. (She had said she
was in the army so I told her she was a tough girl.) I didn't really think that
was gonna fly but it did.
She went out into her car and started driving. I knew that this would be an
easy one to lose. This girl didn't seem super determined to go through with it.
I think she was really just following my lead because I was being commanding
towards her. So I decided to stay on the phone with her for a while as she was
driving.
If you've read my LRs before, you know that I never EVER lose the lay late
in the game. My end logistics are super tight and that's what separates the
guys who get laid from the guys who get a lot of dead end phone numbers.
This is kind of similar to a club/bar pull where you have to keep the girls
buying temp up throughout the extraction process, which can take quite a bit
of time.
In this case, it was really key that I stayed on the phone because the girl
was getting lost all over the place. She was stopping off to pick stuff up,
getting gas, etc. I don't know the area either so I'm sitting there with a Google
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map telling her where to go. If it weren't for Google maps, this girl never
would have made it because she made so many wrong turns. I was starting to
think she was drunk of something. After an hour of that, she finally arrived. I
used that hour on the phone to build some comfort as well as attraction.
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setting up a date with a girl, you have to do it on the phone. Not over text. It
is soooo much easier to use social pressure to convince a girl to meet up over
the phone as well as allowing you to build comfort and attraction to remind
her of why she was attracted to you in the first place.
I learned this lesson when I once asked a girl after sex when she knew we
were going to have sex. Her answer was when we talked on the phone and it
was comfortable. She knew we could hang out, andi
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flaked on and get the girl re-attracted when she shows up.
way it would be easier when she got to the hotel. I got her parked, got her
into the room and then it was a matter of relying on some props to pass a
little time. We did Dance Dance Revolution for a few minutes. She said it was
cheezy. Then I played my guitar for her a bit. I initiated kino by having her try
to play, and I'd put my arm around her to teach her and position her hands.
She was warming up a bit. Next I had her sit on my lap by the computer and
listen to some songs I wrote. I write pop and RnB songs as a side hobby so I
played some of the RnB ones since she liked that style of music.
I had the TV on, and the Tina Turner movie was on...or at least I thought it
was. While we weren't paying attention, that ended and some soft-core porn
came on. I left it for a little while then changed it. While we were sitting in the
chair I started escalating her, but she wouldn't kiss me. She didn't stop me
from kissing her; she just didn't really kiss back. I didn't take this as a red
light, more of a yellow. I slowed down and did more kino.
Then I went for a power play. I picked her up, put her over my shoulder
and threw her on the bed. She got all squeally, and I knew it was on. Then I
got on top of her and tried to kiss her and still no kiss. I kissed her neck a bit
and then told her, "That's all you get." I did my standard palm reading. That
went well. Tried again to kiss her, but she kind of smiled and laughed. Again I
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said, "That's all you get." This time she started whining like, "Please more?" I
told her no, but then one minute later I was back on top of her. I told her,
"Hmmm you're kissing needs some work." Again, she wasn't stopping me, but
she wasn't joining in either.
I decided in my head, "This girl is horny and interested. She just doesn't
like kissing." I haven't been with a lot of black girls; I figured maybe it was a
cultural difference or something. So I rolled her on her side and spooned her.
Then I started kissing her neck and biting the back of her neck. She started
breathing heavily, and I knew she was getting really horny. The escalation
went great from that point on. I got her shirt and bra off within a few minutes.
She had huge tits. I didn't even realize it in the mall. I checked her bra later
and they were DDs. Nice body, nice face.
She started jerking me off, and I took her pants off. I tried to finger her,
but she refused it. Again, no rhyme or reason to that so I just continued and
assumed she just wasn't into being fingered. I tried again to finger her, and
she said, "Do you have a condom?" Does a bear shit in the woods? He he, no I
didn't really say that. I grabbed a condom, and we got it going. I gave it to
her pretty rough, and she was loving it. This girl was a great fuck!
Then we were talking later, and she said she had never been with a white
guy before. She was saying, "Wow, I'll have to tell my friends white guys CAN
fuck...and some of them DO have a big cock!" Ha! Ha! I think I've done my
part for race relations today, and it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. We
talked some more and she was telling she likes it really rough, and she was so
turned on when I was teasing her. I told her I'm a big tease, and it's really fun
for me.
I did some dirty talk whispering into her ear. She was getting really turned
on again. So we went right back into doing it again. This time I pounded her
super hard and deep. I put her into all kinds of positions where I knew I'd get
so deep in it would hurt. She loved the pleasure/pain thing. I choked her a bit
and slapped her in the face and ass. When we were done, she just kept saying
"wow" over and over.
By this time it was 6AM, and I only had four hours until the other girl was
going to show up. I decided if this girl who was in bed wanted to stay, I'd let
her and cancel the other girl. But she decided to leave as she's a college girl
and had class the next day. I was pretty out of it so I passed out minutes after
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Next morning at 10am sure enough I hear a knock on the door. I open it,
and I hear "Wakey, wakey." The girl comes in, has cookies and orange juice. I
eat that and then pull her into the bed. I pretty much had set a comfortable
frame with the way I set this all up so I decided it would probably work fine to
just start escalating. We started making out, and everything went pretty
smooth. This girl was only 20 and turned out to be a virgin so she ended up
giving me a handjob and a titfuck. Damn virgins! I keep attracting them all the
time; I have no idea why.
Wow, that one was easy. After she finished cleaning my pipes, I showered
real quick, packed my stuff, and she drove me to the airport. While I was
packing, she kept taking pictures of me and trying to go through my stuff.
That was annoying.
At one point she tried turning on my video camera, and I knew it was cued
up to the footage of the tall brunette blowing me from a few nights earlier. I
had to grab her by the hair and take the camera out of her hand. She said
something like, "What? Do you just travel all over the country having sex with
different girls?" I said yeah and kept packing.
She was super annoying but at least I got a free ride to the airport. I gave
her a peck on the lips at the curb, and she said, "That's it?" I said yeah, and
she yelled "Jerk!" It was pretty funny.
For the week:
7 total days in Florida
3 total days sarging
4 total day 2s
3 total naked chicks in my bed
It was a pretty good week, even though it got off to a rough start. I think I
really have my cold approach game back to 100%. Next time I'm down there I
also have the advantage of being socially proofed by a local celeb- the DJ
chick and having two solid FBs ready to go.
Now that the week is over, I'm not really sure that I did go out of my
comfort zone. I've pulled quite a few lays of cold approaches in the past so
maybe this was just more of the same. I guess it just seemed hard at first

causeI hadn't done it in like two months. Cold approaching is awesome!


There's just something really cool about knowing you can go up to any girl
and talk to her, and chances are you'll get laid pretty quickly as a result of
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doing that. The black girl was really fun. I've only been with two black chicks
before, and they were both lousy in bed. If anyone has experience in dealing
with black girls, I'd be interested in hearing it.
To learn more about Brad P go to www.BradPpresents.com

LR - 2F CLOSES IN ONE DAY (CHICAGO BOOTCAMP)


This report is by The Don. I actually witnessed both of these pick-ups within a
span of about 12 hours. The Don is the lead instructor for Love Systems as
well as my former wing when I livedi
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The Don is a USC alum, originally hailing from NY, who currently lives and
approaches women in the city of Los Angeles. In his civilian life, he is an
accomplished writer, having sold and optioned several screenplays over the
past several years.
A member of Mensa and an avid reader, The Don uses a combination of
intelligence, humor and strategy to find and attract women of top quality;
inside and out. In seminar, he focuses on teaching students the external
tactics to generate attraction and internal ways to reshape their beliefs
regarding what they are capable of with women. He believes firmly that
success with women is a teachable skill and prides himself on being able to
demonstrate and communicate Love Systems to help men transform their
lives.
So, on Sunday afternoon with our instructional duties done, a few of us
decided to go do some hardcore gaming for ourselves...
Sunday Day - Me, Sinn, Future, Tenmagnet and Masters hit Castaways at
North Avenue Beach, which is packed with people. HBs in bathing suits
everywhere, beer is flowing... Great venue! Sinn opens a seated two set, and
we lock in with them and pull the rest of the guys over. I'm working HB Asian
(I'm not usually into Asian girls, but she was hot enough to make an exception
and had an awesome rack) Got some strong resistance early on.
I plow through and turn it around, get some solid AIs from the guys, get
her laughing and IOIing and isolate to the bar. We get beers, make-out, I #
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Sunday night - We have a longstanding tradition of hitting a strip club


post-bootcamp. So in this case, since it was the Special Bootcamp, we had the
whole company present. So the entire MM instructors, including Mystery,
descend on the best strip club in Chicago... They didn't see it coming.
HBAsian keeps texting to meet up, but I push till tomorrow night.
This is going to be interesting and probably not something I want her to see.
I sit down beside two strippers and start gaming. It wasn't really textbook
stripper game. I just did normal IVD/DHV/neg stuff... The hotter of the two
was biting, and I pull her over next to me in isolation. Mystery normally
advises not to kino strippers, but I kino plowed the crap out of her and got
total compliance.
She never once asked me for a dollar, which is probably the best gauge as
to how you're realistically doing with a stripper. As soon as they ask for cash,
you've lost interest and become a customer. It was basically a flawless set
with almost no hitches. I get her to kiss me, and she tells me her # while
looking for her manager over her shoulder... I tell her we're meeting up
tomorrow.
Monday Day - I wake up at 1pm and send a flirty txt to the stripper. She
texts back:

HB Stripper - "You were the first thing I thought of when I woke up.
What are we going to do about that?"
The Don - "You're coming to my hotel, and we're going to lay around;
watch movies and order room service. I'm lazy and hung-over."
HB Stripper - "Ok"
She arrives around 4:00pm. 45 minutes of comfort building and easy full
Monty. We lie around for a while, order room service and do it again. I send
her on her way to work that night, pick up the phone and text HBAsian.
Monday Night - Future and I grab a few beers and HBAsian comes to meet
us. We hang for an hour or so. Future drops some solid AIs for me and takes
off for the hotel.
I immediately begin kino escalation and kissing again, venue change twice
and pull her into a cab to my hotel. No resistance. Full Monty, and she stays
the night.LMR does not exist in this dojo.

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My last four lays this month have all been logged in under four hours with
no LMR. Solid Comfort/Connection game mixed with hard sexual escalation is
powerful...
To learn more about the Don go to www.lovesystems.com/the-don

LR - 22 YEAR OLD SORORITY PRESIDENT BABE


This next LR is from my buddy In10se who is one of the main influences on
my game. His stuff on mid-game and sexual escalation is among the best and
most underrated material in the community.
Well I just had to post this LR while I'm still buzzing about it. I've come to the
realization of why I like this GAME so much - because after I f-close a hot
chick like this I just think back on it and say "DAMN!" - It just makes me
happy.
This Lay Report is a great example of gaming outside of normal social
situations.
Well, this chick is a 22 year old 9.8 sorority chick (Sorority PRESIDENT)
that
s doing an internship in Clinical Lab at the hospital where I work. She had
seen me in the cafeteria one day, and so when she saw me at the coffee shop,
I had an obvious IOI - she smiled at me and opened me.
Well I got her number and called her the night before last.
I did Small Talk, My Ideal Relationship Values Theme, Polynesia
"Bachelorette" Theme, Different Levels of Communication and Connection
Theme, G-string Story/Opinion, Similarity/Difference and Attract/Comfort
Balance Theme, "Parts" Theme - and then I cubed her.
Now here's a funny lesson but DEFINITELY powerful technique that I did
while cubing her - and it all comes back to building a self image for someone
to live up to.
While I did her cube - her horse was a big brown Cheshire Horse confident, strong, bold. And so I read her lover as being that way. Now what I
did DIFFERENT this time is I said, "Oh, and there's something else about your
horse, but I can
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She was like, "Oh, now you have to tell me!" and she basically BEGGED me
to tell her. As she begged me she was like, "Does it mean I have a strong sex
drive? Does it mean I love sex?" I was like, "Yeah" ... (Secretly thinking "Oh
yeah!")
So we get together last night and have dinner. We actually only stayed
about an hour because they were taking WAY too long with our food and
because we really weren't that hungry anyway.
She was drawn in by how much we had in common - she kept pointing
things out saying, "It's a sign!" Like, for example, my mom is a Med
Technologist - that's what she is. My mom is a Leo - so is she. We both drive
the same kind of car, etc...
I took this as an obvious, and somewhat more serious, IOI than just
regular IOI's. It means that she see's our interaction as "FATE".
The ISOLATION: So we go back to her house and watch a DVD "Napoleon Dynamite." Part way through it, I'm like, "Do you dye your hair?"
as I run my fingers through it. She's says no and that it's naturally blond. I
keep running my fingers through her hair and then up and down her neck she's loving it.
Then I start caressing her jaw, and she turns toward me and just starts
kissing me. We get pretty hot and heavy, and I'm starting to move my hands
up and down her chest and over her breasts.
She says, "Let's go to my room."
Now when a chick says that, you basically KNOW that you
re going to get
laid! - Don't pass go - no more questions asked!
So we went to her room and continue making out. I lay down on her bed,
and she gets on top of me. She takes off her top and bra and then her pants
leaving her G-string on.
She had the hottest, tightest, most perfect body and ass that I've seen in a
LONG time. (And I've seen and had A LOT!)
I turn her over and start kissing her neck then chest and breasts. I move
down to her stomach and then to her inner thighs. And I'm just alternating
from one thigh to the other going up and down with my mouth and
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tongue. She's like arching her back, and I can smell her pussy.
I sweep aside her g-string and start kissing her pussy and clit. And then I
start the IN10SE Orgasm method - she later told me that after three orgasms
she thought her whole body was going numb so that
s why she stopped me!
She pulls me up to start kissing her lips with all of her juices still on my mouth
- she's loving it! I take down my pants and she pulls off her g-string
completely and it's ON!
She was probably one of the hottest f-close's that I've ever had! I told her
afterwards that she was an awesome lover, and she said, "So are you, and
you know my horse was BIG!" Basically revalidating the self-image that I had
given her or maybe even just validating the part of herself that I allowed to
come out and play.
We're hanging out tonight for New Years, and you can BET that I'm going
to start the New Years with some more of that stuff!
Comments, Questions?
To learn more about In10se got www.octoberman.com

LR - CUTE 18 YEAR OLD AI: JDOG


Born and raised in northern England, Justin "JDog" Marks may
sometimes look like a punk kid or even perhaps a rock star. However,
he used to be your stereotypical engineer with virtually no success with
women whatsoever. He is the type of individual who focuses on what he
wants in life and then sets out to make it happen.
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the opportunity, he pushed through his fears and travelled out to New
York, missing his graduation ceremony in the process. He went on to
prove himself in the business world by founding a successful, multimillion dollar engineering company. Unfortunately, his business and
financial successes never brought him much luck with women.
In 2000, to save his sanity, JDog made a decision to get his dating life
fixed once and for all. That decision set him on a life changing journey. First
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going to the gym, he lost 30lbs, lost his gut and got into the best shape
of his life.
Next was a long and ongoing process of developing his own personal sense
of fashion and style. Of course, without confidence when talking to women and
without even understanding women or know how to communicate on a sexual
and captivating level, little was gained by the other changes alone.
Late one night while watching BBC America, JDog's eyes were opened to
the secret society of pickup artists. The television show, Louis Theroux's Weird
Weekends, featured a man called Ross Jeffries who was teaching other men
how to seduce women. It seemed real!
"Until that moment, I never believed that it was possible to change the way
that women are attracted to you. Honestly, I had just accepted the fact that
the women I find attractive are just not attracted to me... and that's just a
horrible place to find yourself." recalls JDog.
JDog studied under Ross, learning methods of using one's language, tone
of voice, and gesture to communicate in a more captivating manner. Ross and
JDog have remained good friends ever since. Fascinated by these
principles, JDog later earned both a Master Practitioner Certification in NLP
(Neuro-Linguistic Programming) and a Hypnotherapy Certification.
Having now been exposed to the seduction community, JDog traveled to
meet and learn from the world's most revered Pickup Artists including
Mystery, Neil Strauss, Sinn, Lance Mason, Tyler Durden and many others. In
the process, he became a master and teacher of the art himself, respected
and known internationally.
Fans of Neil Strauss' international bestseller, "The Game," might be
interested to know that JDog was actually one of the founding members of the
much written about Project Hollywood. JDog discussed the initial financing for
the project with Neil Strauss at Chicken A-Go-Go in LA and later backed out to
pursue other adventures. JDog gave his room to Herbal who later became a
central character to the storyline.
When teaching, JDog excels at making sure that guys truly understand the
material and are able to apply it to improve their lives. His ability to make
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ages and backgrounds, especially those who think of themselves as too old or
not interested in the nightclub scene.
JDog's focus is on teaching guys to become naturally more attractive men
through the way they live their lives and communicate with others. Rather
than trying to buy or beg for a woman's attention, this is certainly a better
alternative than using social tricks to get women into bed. In this way, men
tend to find they have more fulfilling relationships and can keep quality
women in their life long after the initial pick up
So this cute girl (18 years old) is on the other side of Starbucks from me
reading a book. I'm on my laptop setting up an Arizona PUA message
board/website. There are a couple of other people between where she and I
are sitting. She gets up to go to the bathroom, and she uses a Mystery opener
on me that I actually use a lot. As she walks past my table, she asks me to
watch her stuff. I look at her, look across the room, look at the other people,
look puzzled and say, "sure."
She comes back out of the restroom, says thanks, and goes back to
reading her book. I work on my laptop for another 15 minutes, talk to people
outside for another 10 minutes and then pack up my things. I then just go
over and sit down with her and ask her to tell me about her book.
Here JDOG opens with a situational opener. This is something that goes
against most traditional community advice. However, there are two factors to
consider here. First, the girl has already opened him by asking him to watch
her stuff. This is enough of an indicator of interest that he doesn't need to
open with anything particularly clever as he knows she's interested.
The second thing to keep in mind is that this is during the day at a coffee
shop. The distractions are minimal, and she isn't going anywhere. What this
opener actually does is test for her attraction levels. If she is interested, she
can jump on the book conversation. He also phrases it by making her do
something (In this case, tell him about the book).
She gives loads of IOI's, blushes, and directly tells me she's seen me in
there before but was too shy to talk to me. I bust on her playfully on a few
things, especially her blushing...haha... I make sure not to over-game as she
is already into me. I stack some routines, and just comfort build. I go for a
venue change, but she was waiting for a friend. We talk about different bridge
ideas, and then I get distracted from setting up a solid bridge. She takes my

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number. I tell her she better call, or she'll be really embarrassed the next time
I see her in there. She was really into me so she better call!!! Cute
18 year old omg.
I don't even remember her name shit!!!
I did cocky funny and stacked the following routines (see below). I may
have over-qualified myself a bit; just talking about my lifestyle can be
overwhelming to an 18 year old who already sees me as higher value.
She qualified herself to me by talking about travel and horse riding and what
she's going to study.
Over-qualifying yourself can be a legitimate concern, especially if you are
particularly accomplished as JDOG is. Another factor here can be the age of
the girl. A young college coed is going to be much more impressed with your
travels than a 33 year old attorney. The key is to not try so hard to
demonstrate value. Once you have enough value that the girl will qualify
herself, move into comfort and start finding out about her.

Routines & Mini-Cold reads:


General C&F though toned down... and more funny... no hard negs
Little playful comments.
How I ended up in America
Busted on her for being my stalker
The girl with no arms
My trainer not full... I'll go into that next time.
Sugar mummy
People watching... building commonality
Hmmm that was about it.
She went for a handshake when I got up to leave. I'm like whatever, give
me a hug.... she felt goodhe he.
I'll keep you posted.
Closing Thought:
When you get a solid AI, always make use of it!.... And.... When you
get a solid AI, always make use of it!

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JDog here does something that I implore everyone reading this to do.
When you have a successful pick up, write down a rough idea of what you
said. You can keep a journal, a notepad of ideas, a computer file... whatever.
But write down the things you say that get a good reaction.
So it's been about two weeks since I met HB-18, and she never called me.
I was soooo certain she would call. I'm at the same Starbucks like every other
day too, and she hasn't been there.
This afternoon around 5:30 pm, I'm sitting on the patio at Starbucks,
smoking a cigar and reading my RSD notes. Then, out of the blue, this girl
appears in front of me from out of nowhere, and she's all smiles. It was HB18. I initially thought of standing up and giving her a hug... then I though NO,
she didn't call me so I kicked back in my chair and acted cool.
Here's a good example of withholding indicators of interest to punish
bad behavior.
We talk; she's all into me. I tell her that I was surprised that she never
called me, and she acted really surprised and said that she left me a voice
mail. She insisted that she left a voice mail days ago saying that she was
gonna be at Starbucks and why don't I join her. I never got the message.
Girls will say things like this all the time. The reason is they hate social
awkwardness. It doesn't mean she doesn't like you or won't have sex with
you. All it means is that she didn't call. There's no need to bring it up or try to
punish her for it. Instead, act like it didn't happen and file it under "weird stuff
girls do."
We talk, and she's really into me. My mind goes blank no routines... no
personal stories... just fluff talk with some C&F... she's already turned on. I
hand her my phone and say ok I need your number. As she's really into me
and not really qualified, I act a little AFC (but not really, my whole state is
alpha) and tell her I was really disappointed when I didn't hear from her. She
puts her number in my phone.
Then she's making gestures to someone inside. She says it's her best
friend. She points to me and mouths this is him, and then she goes inside to
get her. Her friend was another cute 18 year old HB-friend. We all talk for a
bit, then HB-friend reads something while HB-18 flirts with me. She was all
flushed. I asked her if she was embarrassed. She said,
No, why?I said, well
you're all flushed so then you must just be turned on. She says maybe and
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glances at my crotch. I say no way, you just checked out my package, didn't
you? And she looks again. They both laugh. She then stares at my crotch as a
joke for like a minute. We flirt more. Her body language was totally into me...
with her legs on either side of mine.
I ask if HB-friend is judging me and grading me. She's like, yeah, I am.
She gave me points for kicking my flip-flops off while sitting there as they do
that. Then she took away points for having smokes and cigars. HB-18 takes
HB-friend home and tells me she is coming back.
Here, some people would think that JDOG was giving away some of his
power by asking if the girl was there to grade him. In an initial interaction, this
would come across as supplication. However, since the girl is so attracted to
him and it's not a pick up, he gets away with it. Remember that all rules are
simply guidelines to be broken at the appropriate time.
I sit and read. While I'm sitting there, I see this tall, thin, blond HB-mother
with a little kid walking towards the Starbucks. She looks at me while I'm
checking her out, and she holds the gaze. We both give each other a sexual
kind of smile. She walks past. I make a phone call and stand up to walk
around while on the phone.
HB-mother walks right past me, and I turn around to see if I misread her
of if she was really giving me a strong AI. Same thing happens. BUT I DON'T
OPEN. Partly because I thought that HB-18 might be back any time and see
us, and HB-18 is like an AFC so it might ruin it. Secondly, her having a kid
kind of put me off. I don't mind her having a kid I just felt uncomfortable
gaming a woman in front of her kid. I broke my own rule!!! WHEN YOU GET A
STRONG AI, ALWAYS OPEN.
I read and HB-18 comes back. I asked her if she discussed me with her
friend on the way home and what she said. She said that her friend approved
and likes mehehehe. HB-18 leaves for Ireland tomorrow for 10 days and said
she had plans tonight. I tell her I have to go as I've been there so long and
would like to do something with her but, unfortunately, she has plans. She
says she doesn't have any plans and that she was lying. I said I don't know; I
have to go. She's like where are you going. I said home. She's like don't you
need to have dinner. I'm like so where are you taking me.
We leave in my car and stop off at my house briefly. As we were driving to
the restaurant, she asks me if I'm more into sex or relationships. I say that I
really enjoy sex, but a truly satisfying relationship is what I would really like.
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And until I find someone that meets all my standards, I'm happy to have fun.
She's quiet for a while. Then when we pull up to the restaurant, she tells me
that she has decided to not jump into sleeping with anyone right now as she's
had a fucked up series of experiences over that last month. She feels like I am
all about sex.
I dispel her concerns.
This is a classic trap. When a girl is feeling super sexual, (as this girl no
doubt was) she will try to throw herself out of state. This is a very common
example. The DTR (Determine the Relationship) conversation. This is one of
the places where active frame control and attraction frames come back into
play. Here JDOG makes a mistake by assuming that comfort is a static phase
and that he already has all the attraction he needs. Before you have sex with
a girl, if she brings up relationshipy topics, use the confusion frame. Throw out
a bunch of contradictory funny answers until she stops asking, or you can
change the subject to something that engages her.
Then we eat at a nice but reasonable and casual Mexican place. We sit next
to each other on bench. She's all over me. I go to kiss her at one point, and
she moves away. I stay there and say come here, I'm gonna kiss you. She
just looks at me. I say come on no tongue, I promise. She slowly moves
closer, and we kiss. She starts to go for tongue. I pull back and call her on it
saying, hey I said no tongue.
We leave. On the way home she says she needs to be back at 1am and I
suggest we watch a video at my place. She agrees. On the way, I bring up not
receiving her voicemail again, and her state changes. She says that she
should probably not come back to my place as she has to pack for her flight. I
say OK, and I start driving to her car. Then I turn around and say no! You're
coming back to my place for a bit. I don't want you to go yet. She says ok.
We hang out at my place. I introduce her to my roomies, and then me and
her have a glass of wine and chill on the sofa. We make out heavy, and she
tells me she so wants to fuck me, but she shouldn't. We didn't have sex that
night some thoughts on this:
1) I know we will when she gets back, and I didn't want buyer
s remorse.
2) She has some serious problems, and I don't know if I want to go anywhere
with this yet. She failed the David Shade test for a happy healthy woman
based upon her relationship to her father and her ability to receive
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compliments (she can't accept compliments on her appearance). In fact, her


dad's an alcoholic and her mother has been battling a serious illness since she
was a kid.
3) HB-18 is also on anti-depressant medication, and she has scars on her
wrists. Every time I tried to look at her wrists, she would either pull her hands
away or keep them firmly held so I couldn't turn them over. I didn't fight her
on this.
I finally take her back to her car. We make out more, and I leave.
When she gets back from Ireland, I'll only be in town like two days before
leaving for England for a month. So we'll see what happens. Really if not for
the reasons #2 above, I would have kept a strong frame led her into my
room and fucked her.
She called me as soon as she got back into town from Ireland. She was
really tired a little jetlagged. We met at a local coffee shop and then went for
lunch. I chose the place after she suggested Applebee's. We split the bill, and
then went back to my place. Got friendly on the sofa and then moved it to my
bedroom.
She kept giving me LMR... so I kept pulling back amping BT and going
again. I even gave Riker's three rules. But no go. Then again, we've only
spent like a total of four hours togetheratmostf
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Sunday before I leave.
She called today and joined me for shopping for luggage. A beer in the
mall, and then came back to my place. She lays on my bed. We fool around a
bit. I start packing she comes over, and it's game on. I blindfold her with a
bondage mask (Zoro style) and spank her ass a bit with a bondage whip. We
get into bed... I get her off by going down on her and fingers. She gives me
head and says she wants me inside her. I say I'll get a condom, and she's like
what do we need one for as she straddles me. This killed my mood a lot as I'm
thinking that if that's how she carries on she's high risk STD's. I get the
condom and we get back into it.
This report is a great example of knowing when to apply the principle of
time. The first two times he had her back at his place, she simply wasn't ready
yet. This doesn't mean that every girl needs a certain amount of time. But this
particular girl needed more time to grow comfortable enough for sex to just
happen.
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JDog does a great job of recognizing this and not pushing her into LMR
which could make her flake down the line. Think about it like this. If there was
a girl that gave you approach anxiety every time you saw or heard from her,
would you like return her calls or ignore her? LMR works the same way so it's
vital to not make her feel this way until you can get around it. Unfortunately,
she gets a little too comfortable and asks him not to use a condom. Readers,
don't be a fool, always wrap your tool.
This was a rewarding experience. What started out so smooth and perfect
actually hit a lot of speed bumps on the day 2. But I still persevered, had a
great time with a stunningly gorgeous girl, and in return rewarded her with a
handful of orgasms.
To learn more about JDOG visit www.askjdog.com
Entropy is widely acknowledged as the best PUA in Boston. He works for both
Sinns Of Attraction and Practical Pick-Up.
Day 1: Thursday Night -- Open/Attraction
My roommates and I headed down to a local bar/club down the street from us.
It's hopping on Thursdays with college kids and my god, was it was targetrich. As with my last lay report, I looked and felt like I just crawled out of a
dumpster. Ripped T-shirt, cargo shorts, flip-flops, no shower, stubble on my
face. Why is it my best LR's happen when I look like steamrolled ass? I need
to quit showering more often.
Anyway, I had just worked an extra long day at work and one of my FB's was
having problems with her boyfriend (yes, you read that correctly), so I told
her to come and have a couple beers with me and cheer up (and yes, I'd end
up fucking her that night). The night kicked off well though and pretty soon
my state was pumped.
My roommates were opening sets everywhere, so I figure I should do
something. I opened a cute Asian, got her to rub her ass against mine while
she danced, but she didn't exactly hook. Next, I went outside for a smoke and
opened and hooked two HB8's from the local university. They were kind of
dull, and even though I was getting a few IOI's from one of them, the obstacle
was having none of it. So, they were done after about 5-10 minutes.
I come back in and the place is slammed. I make my way back to the my
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roommates who are goofing off with my FB (I need to mention she's possibly
the coolest girl I've ever met in my life, we're coming up on our one-year FB
anniversary... sniffle). This is when I spot the target. Across the bar there is a
gorgeous tall girl looking at me, giving heavy AI. I'm in a good state so I
immediately give her my "You looking at me?" face. I do this sometimes when
girls give me heavy eye contact -- it's hit or miss. This girl started laughing:
it's on. Without hesitation I walk around the bar to talk to her.
If you get an approach invitation, it is imperative that you approach her
within three seconds. If you take any more time than that the girl will assume
you are not confident and you will lose the attraction you already had.

Me: "I'd appreciate it if you'd stop staring at me; I get uncomfortable


when girls give me attention."
HB: *laughs* "I'm sure."
Me: "No really, I'm very sensitive... I need to be pampered a lot."
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Holy shit, this girl is stunning. She's pushing six feet tall, long luscious
blond hair, bright blue eyes -- only thing holding her back from a 10 that night
was she was dressed pretty plainly. (My roommate later commented, "If she
got dolled up, she'd easily be a HB10.")
This is the thing about HB10's I've found (excluding high end club girls).
They're impossible to hook, but once you catch their interest, they're usually
the sweetest girls you'll find around. We started fluffing about school (she
goes to the same school I just graduated from) when sure enough the CB
patrol arrived on the scene. Her friend literally dragged her about five-feet
away from me. But before I could even try and disarm her,
HBAmazonGoddess turned around and walked back to me and apologized.
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This is an important sign to look for. If a girl ever refuses a drag away or
comes back immediately after being pulled away. You have attraction and
should immediately try to escalate the interaction verbally and physically.
The main thing I had going for me in this phase was she laughed at fucking
EVERYTHING I said. I have a very particular, semi-harsh sense of humor, and
she ate it ALL up. I began kino-escalating, which she responded warmly to.
Then abruptly I said, "My friends are over here," and I just grabbed her and

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took her to the other side of the bar. I wanted backup if the cock-blocks
returned.
Next, some awesome social-proof happened. My FB bought me a shot and
brought it to me as I was talking to HBAmazonGoddess. She gave it to me,
took it with me, introduced herself to my target and then simply said
something like, "Entropy is the coolest fucking guy I know," and walked off. I
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The cock-block found us and told my target to go to the bathroom with her.
My target said she'd be back and I told her to come find me in a certain spot.
She complied about five minutes later. Things were going perfectly. Even
though she didn't look like an HB10 that night, she was still HB9+ territory,
and for some reason I wasn't shaking in my boots about it. I just kept
bullshitting, DHV'ing, busting on her and she ate it all up. I # closed. Timebridged to Sunday night. I did the whole thing where I call her with my phone
and make her pick up, then joke about "You meet any cute guys tonight? ...
Oh, really? ... I met this one girl, a really tall blonde. It was going real well,
but (enter disqualification here) she spilled her drink on me, so I don't how it's
going to pan out." She loved it and play hit me -- this is so on.
Before I left, for whatever reason, she told me I had to text her when I
woke up in the morning. I joked that she was being high maintenance, which
she genuinely took offense to (the only negative reaction all night). She
seemed serious and I had built a lot of attraction in her, so I figured it'd be
like my SOI to text her when I woke up. I agreed and left.
Day 1.5: Friday/Saturday -- Attraction
I wake up the next morning and text her as promised: "As requested,
here's your friendly reminder that we have a date Sunday... try not to spill
your drink on me this time. ;)"
She responded within two minutes very positively. The next night she
texted asking what I was up to. I was out (and actually near her), but I di
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Day 2: Sunday Night -- Comfort/Seduction


This is where stuff started going wrong. I get her to meet me in a popular
part of town to walk down to this Mexican-themed bar (a local community guy
recommended it to me on Sunday nights). When I get there, she's already
there waiting and I'm on my bike. I tell her that I'm going to lock my bike up
in an alley around the corner and she starts walking with me. She's very
cheery and again is dressed plainly, but the natural beauty more than makes
up for it.

Me: "So you follow guys into alleys often? This was pretty easy."
HB: *laughs* "It's OK, I brought mace, I had a feeling about you."
Me: "Seriously, this is the whole date. I was kidding about the drinking
and dancing."
HB: "You're terrible!"
This is a great example of date teasing. Guys often cannot strike the
balance between indicators of disinterest and teasing. This light hearted
obviously not true teasing is the right kind of stuff to use on dates to remind
the girl why she was attracted to you without indicating any disinterest as she
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One thing I should add is this girl is very proper. Even though she laughed
at all of my inappropriate, crude, perverted, and stupid jokes, I never heard
her curse once or say anything negative about somebody. When we got to the
bar, she sat very properly, and when we split Quesadillas, her manners were
so perfect I wanted to throw salsa on her.
I did my usual eliciting values routine, read: Facebook stalking, and
discovered she was way into traveling and different cultures. That's pretty cool
because I'm into traveling and different cultures. So that was something to
talk about and relate to for awhile. I started telling her about how my Mom
lived in Jamaica and crazy stories about guys trying to pick her up and sell me
drugs down there.
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MySpace/Facebook info and check out her page between your first and second
meeting. This will give you some key insights into what the girl is into and how
she wants to be seen.

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HB: "How was the beach?"


Me: "Oh my God, in Negril? You practically shit yourself when you first
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HB: "Is the language necessary?"
Me: "Huh?" *still eating*
HB: "You use so much foul language."
Me: "What are you, my mother?"
HB: "No, I just don't think it's necessary."
Me: "Maybe not... Anyway, where was I? (pause) Oh yeah, it's like
fucking heaven."
Humor 101: comedy is all about timing. If I hadn't had the pause for effect,
I would have just come off as an asshole. But she laughed her ass off, play hit
me and called me "hopeless."
After about 30 minutes, the other eight people in the bar left, literally
leaving us by ourselves. To be honest, I was pretty embarrassed. But I think I
handled it well.

HB: *looking around* "Wow, we're the only ones here now."
Me: "Yeah, I planned that. Not bad, eh?"
HB: *laughs* "That's impressive, convincing everyone to leave."
Me: "Well, since the whole alley thing didn't pan out, I figured this was
the next best thing."
I thought about kiss closing here, but I looked into her eyes for a bit and
could tell it wasn't time yet. I wasn't sure how I was going to do it if not there
-- maybe dancing. It was beginning to be a long time without any more
escalation, and if there's one thing I live and die by in sarging, it's A-B-C!
ALWAYS BE CLOSING! IT'S FUCK OR WALK! IT'S CLOSE OR HIT THE BRICKS
PAL!
So I decide to venue change her up the block to a swanky lounge with
some music to dance to. I close out the tab which all of the drinks are on -and we all know... I NEVER buy a girl a drink. I'm positive she just took it for
granted that the night would be on me. As I signed the tab I said, "This bar's
on me, next bar is on you." She kind of looked stunned but squeaked out an
"OK." Them's the rules, honey, get used to it.

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So we're walking down the street and I really want to kiss her.

Me: *grab her arm* "Stop for a second."


HB: "What?"
Me: "I want to kiss you right now."
HB: *looks away* "I can't. I don't do that on the first date."
I was genuinely stunned. This girl IS prude! No worries...

Me: "I know you like me."


HB: *blushes* "I do." I literally start laughing at her.

Me: "That makes NO sense."


I can tell in her face she suddenly sees how it makes no sense -- welcome
to my frame, darling, enjoy your stay.

HB: *nervous laugh* "Yeah, I guess not. Maybe a little one."


Me: "OK, just a little one." I give her a nice little kiss on the lips. She smiles.
Me: "I'm going to steal another later." (Holy shit, was that an
understatement).
So we get to the next venue, and more disaster, i.e.: Entropy looking like
an idiot. The place ISN'T EVEN OPEN. Wow, I feel stupid and have no idea
where to take her now, and I DEFINITELY don't want the night ending on this
note. She says she's going to run into the bathroom in the hotel next door.
While she's in there, I run out to the valet guy for and tell him my situation. I
seriously thought the lounge was a good spot on Sundays. He explains to me
that the only Sunday's it's opened on are after Red Sox games. I quickly ask
him where I should take her. He recommends a nice spot a few blocks away.
She comes out and I don't even say anything other than, "Come on, we're
going somewhere else." So we walk to the next spot and THANK GOD there
are people there. In fact, it's a really nice spot with nice atmosphere.
We sit down and I just basically do comfort building, talking about family,
friends, personal subjects. One thing I noticed about her was she LOVED to
hear about my closet dorkiness. When I'm gaming a girl, I'll usually let her in
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ass all the time -- it endears you a bit to them, makes you look human and
vulnerable. It's a great comfort tactic. Well, she LOVED it. So I just started
spilling all the dorky shit I'm into, the competitive gaming, the cheesy music,
my old chess club, my meditation practice.
I go to the bathroom and when I come back:

HB: "You're just in time."


Me: "Why, the guys hovering?"
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Me: "Don't worry, I'll scare them away." *wink*
HB: *laughs* "Nah, I'm actually really good at blowing guys off. With
my friends, I was always the one who would get the guys to leave
us alone."
Me: "Really? I guess when you have so many guys hitting on you, you
kind of have to build some sort of shield to it."
HB: "Yeah, but sometimes I hate it."
Me: "Why? Because you feel like a bitch, right? Even though you're
not, you have to protect yourself."
HB: "Yeah. Exactly."
Me: "I'm glad you let me in."
HB: *smiles* "I am too."
The most important event occurred here, and I think if you take anything
from this LR, this should be it. For whatever reason, I've developed a very
good skill at turning girls into FB's. I can turn almost every girl I hook up with
into an FB that lasts as long as I want them to and it's [u]all about setting
expectations.[/u] If you set the expectation for the level of interaction with the
girl, she will generally always follow it. So you have to put yourself out there
and do it. If you leave the expectations ambiguous, it will usually lead to
problems down the road.
She let on that she had just come out of over three years of relationships
and had honestly never actually "dated". This explained a lot about her
behavior during the night, including her prudish behavior.
Me: "You seem like a very 'all or nothing' kind of girl."HB:
"Yeah, I guess that's how I've always been."
Me: "I used to be like that. I dated a girl for three years, but since we
broke up, I've just been living in the grey-area."

HB: "What's that?"


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Learn this routine. I've used it countless times now and it's money:
We leave after a bit and I tell her I'm going to walk her home. I was drunk
and tired, had work in the morning, and really thought she wouldn't fuck me.
But dammit fellas, ALWAYS BE CLOSING! SWING FOR THE FUCKING FENCES!
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Me: *Raises hand at about neck level* "If you think about relationships,
and you say up here is a long-term relationship, with full commitment."
*Puts other hand about a foot below the top hand* "...and down here is
just a one night stand, absolutely no emotional involvement at all. Well,
this area in between the two..." *pointing to area between hands* "...is
a grey-area full of all sorts of interactions and relationships that two
people can have. They can be just as fun or as fulfilling as either of the
extremes, both people just have to be honest about their expectations."

HB: (they always say something like this) "I've never thought of it
that way."
Me: "Yeah, and you can even move back and forth in this area as
the relationship evolves."
HB: "I like it."
Me: "I do too. I think it's perfect for people our age, and in our
position."
HB: "I guess I'll just have to be honest with you."
This sets expectations -- she knows you'll care about her even if you
aren't fully committed to her. It will ease her as to what you expect from
her, and it'll even DHV you because it's such a fucking clever way to look
at the whole damn mess.

As we're walking, I grab her again. "I'm going to steal another kiss from
you." She doesn't hesitate or resist and begins kissing me. At first, it's slow
and held back, but then she's getting way into it. Soon, it's a full blown make
out and I start nipping at her neck and running my hands through her hair.
She was getting turned on when I pulled her away and kept walking. She
says, "You're trouble." I think to myself, "I'm in."

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We get to her place and I say I have to use the bathroom. She smiles and
says, "Nice excuse to come in."
We get in and amazingly, there was no LMR. We started fooling around and
the clothes just started flying off. I don't think she had gotten laid in awhile
because she REALLY wanted it.
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Boston. Once she got naked, my jaw dropped.
Her body is flawless. She's tall, thin, tanned, toned but not ripped. Soft but
no extra fat anywhere. Her breasts are nice and perky, her ass is tight yet
round -- I quickly realized this is the hottest girl I have ever been with no
question -- a legitimate HB10.
So anyway, the irony of everything is that for how prude and proper she
had been for half a week, she was a fucking beast in the sack. I made her cum
by fingering her, then she sat on my face and came again.
When I was fucking her from behind I pulled on her hair and shoved her
face into a pillow and she screamed, "God, have your way with me! Do
anything you want!" Seriously, this girl had told me three hours earlier I
couldn't kiss her.
I fucking love women. Afterwards, she said, "Is this the grey area?" I
replied, "It's just the beginning."

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LR - DAY2 THE CAPTAINJACK WAY


This LR obviously is by the great CaptainJack. CJ is not only the best PUA I
have ever seen in field but is the biggest influence on my game. Together we
came up with the Same Night Lyas seminar. You can learn directly from CJ at
www.Masssexualframing.com. You can also sign up for his amazing ecourse at
www.Betheseducer.com .
November 12/13, 2006
I look at the clock...a bright red 3:49 blinks to 3:50.
"Oh! I didn't mean to do that!" she flips her hair and waves her hand as if
it were a few degrees too hot in her bedroom. She pulls the covers closer and
crinkles them up towards her neck.
October 30th, turned out to be a pretty damn good night out for me.
Fidelio, KinoMaster and I were out downing pitchers because the crowd was
a bit sparse (being a Monday). I was practicing downing Michelob Ultra Lights
- my goal is 7 seconds but 9 seconds is my best so far. Eventually I believe I'll
be able to get one down in 7 seconds WITHOUT spilling. At least, that's my
goal.
I was contemplating having another practice session when I spied with my
little eyes a slender Brunette, flat stomach, tattoo on back, perky tits, cute
tight ass. She and her blonde friend burst on the scene all giggles and alighted
on the table next to us.
I vibed and sent and before you knew it they got out the digital camera.
Here's a tidbit you may find useful (* cough * especially you momma's boys
who are still scared to open * cough *):

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CaptainJack's Amazing Digital Camera Non-Verbal Sending Opener


(TM):
If you see a digital camera, look smile, lift your eyebrows and motion
with your hand as if accepting change back from a cashier. If they see
this masterpiece of non-verbal behavior they will often give your
weaseley-ass an opportunity to game them by saying, "Hey, take a
picture of us!"
Now, don't be a good boy and take a pic...no. no. no. no! Take their
digital camera and start taking pictures of random shit. The ceiling. A
crooked one of the band. Your friends (KinoMaster and Fidelio) making
the piece sign and whatnot. This should make them laugh or get up to try
and take the camera back. About that time try to snap a pic of the girl
lunging towards you. This will make a perfect neg as you look at the pic
and laugh. If they do NOT lunge to get the camera back then you may
take a picture.
So, take it and then look at it and go "OMG! No!" and take another one
and then look at it and shake your head, "Mmmm....let's try it one more
time!" Finally. take a picture and hand it to them. From here you can
say, "What are we celebrating?" And, your pansy-ass-too-scared- toopen-because-I'm-a-mamas-boy will have easily opened a set and
demonstrated several of the necessary behaviors to attract a honey.
It turns out my Target was celebrating her 22nd b-day. In short, I gamed
her in textbook fashion, got the TB...
...about this time I spied ANOTHER hot brunette with a nearly Retarded
dude. I opened her, HBFinance from here on out.
It went well. Now, the other girl was Turkish (I guessed Argentina or
Brazil) and she was a belly dancer. (A belly dancer with no belly, ha). Two
hotties both ooze sexuality and CJ is having a good time.
So, CJ has a Jealousy Thread in full effect (dawg).
HBTurkish sarge goes south because she called me one night, she and I
were both drunk, and I told her I don't speak drunken midget dialect and to
please speak English. She called me a "dick" and hung up on me.

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HBFinance broke a Day2 with me.


So I ignored 2 texts and finally responded to one on Saturday during the day
when she invited me out.
Here's my normal Day2 plan:
* Invite them over to my place under the pretense we're actually going to do
something, instead we start drinking and then have sex. It usually works.
This time however she invited me to a new club I wouldn't mind going
to...After watching Klitschko beat the shit out of Calvin Brock I rolled over and
arrived at her casa about 11:30 (I was supposed to be there at 10:00 but I'm
a Klitschko fan).
My plan at this point was to dominate the convo, start the drinks flowing and
keep her in and seal the deal around 1:00ish.
But, around 12:20 am I could tell she wanted to go out and she needed a
venue change. So we went. I remember El Topo mentioned the new bar we
were going to so I text him. We actually briefly run into him in a parking lot on
the way there. He hits a nearby venue so I don't see him again.
Luckily while there when she went to the bathroom I opened a cute blonde
who promptly started dancing on me. I was locked in at the bar so it looked
good.
A few minutes later, noticing the attention from the blonde and my brunette,
another hottie opened me on my ring.
She feels the heat and makes out with me. We head out at 2:00 am.
We get back to her place and she fixes another drink. My third Bacardi and
diet. (Not even buzzed, thankfully).
I run my normal comfort stack. She is loving it! She feels good. I brought
Fight Club and we start watching it.
Make out.
Tits, LMR. Freeze. Unbutton pants. LMR. Freeze Oh god, this is gonna be
FUN! I spank her until her ass is totally red, bite and scratch her ass.
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LMR gone.
Ass spanking is a form of arousal. With enough arousal LMR no longer
exists. Ideally we want this to happen, every pick up. To get better at arousal
learn about how the female body works.
The following books are great resources:

The David Shade Manual (www.DavidShade.com)


The Guide to Getting it on by Paul Joannides
(http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Getting-Universes-CoolestInformative/dp/1885535104)

My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday (http://www.amazon.com/MySecret-Garden-Womens-Fantasies/dp/0671019872)

Two Bacardi and Diet Cokes, $14.50


Spanking a hot girl with huge tits and luscious ass, making her ass cheeks
like two red half-melons, then having her ride till she squirts all over my
stomach, manhood and upper thighs, Priceless.
She didn't MEAN to have sex with me on the first night we went out, she
says. But, when you started spanking me so hard, OMG! She throws off the
covers, looks down at my nakedness. She grabs GIGANTOR in her warm little
hands, slides down towards my hips, looks at me with those big brown doe
eyes...let's do it again she whispers.
P.S. Number three for Nov. and this one is a keeper.

LR - DAY GAME GERMAN GIRL: DOC HOLLIDAY


The next LR is by Doc Holliday. Doc was a 19 year old virgin when I met
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very effective system.
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open her direct

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HB: I just have to say that I like your boots -HOOOOORAY New RocksDoc: Thanks. So what do you go to school for?
HB: Dance

Here Doc skips through the attraction phase. This is key in day game. There
simply is not enough time to do a true attraction phase. Instead we want our
attraction to come through our fashion and non verbal subcommunications.
Here Doc also gains value from the ballsiness of his approach.
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We talk for about 15 minutes about what we do, what we want to do, and go off
on a tangent about books. At some point I comment on her reading Marx and I
tease her for being a Communist. I get her number and text the next day.

Doc: Do you speak text? :)


HB: Ha! Ha! Yes I grew up trilingual. German, English, and Text!
Doc: Awesome I text a lot and I expect prompt witty responses that
remind me how cool you are.
HB: Ah the excitement of raised expectations.

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Here Doc uses some callback humor from their initial interaction. Callback humor
is a great technique. Look for opportunities to create inside jokes, give nicknames,
or number the girl in every interaction.

I call and her phone gives me an error message. I text her

Doc
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She calls me 15 minutes later.
She has a prepaid phone and ran out of minutes. We talk for about an hour
and build a lot of deep comfort. The conversation goes sexual at one point and I
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coffee shop in her neighborhood. We make plans to meet there the next day.
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eway to figure out logistics for a date that starts near her
place. Where do you live is an innocent sounding question, yet with a little
knowl
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We get coffee and walk around her neighborhood until we end up at a park.
We start to walk through it until we hear weird noises and she makes a rape joke. I
laugh and accuse her of bringing me there to rape me. She just smiles.
We walk around some more and we end up walking along a pond. We stop at
onepoi
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her place.
I walk her home and ask to use her bathroom. Once again no woman is going
to say no to this but they know what is going on when you ask. I piss and she
of
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The tour ends at her room and I start to escalate.
I start by making out and feeling her ass through her pants, than I kiss her neck
while feeling her tits under her shirt. I take her hand and put it on my cock and ask
herwhatshe
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I start to rub her pussy under her pants and over her underwear.

HB: Oh you want sex?


Doc: Uhhh, yeah.

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sweater, two tee shirts, a tank top, a bra, a pair of jeans, a pair of leggings, and a
pair of her panties later I get her naked.
I try to stick it in and she starts giving me some LMR. Just the tip, just for a
second,j
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She gets up and goes to the bathroom.

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She comes back and I tell a really deep comfort story and start to escalate
again. LMR usually comes from a lack of comfort and most of the time just backing
off and sharing something really deep is enough to make sex happen.
About ten minutes later I get her on top of me, she spits on my dick, and slides
her
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her roommates and neighbors.
I get her to talk dirty to me in German. I have no idea what she said but it
sounded hot.
She gets up to pee afterwards and throws a long tee shirt on. It just covers the
top half her ass. Her walking out of that door is one of the hot
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We pass out and I leave in the morning.
To learn more about Doc Holliday visit www.practicalpickup.com

LR - VIRGIN ONS: ENTROPY

Dude
,
wha
tt
hef
uc
k
?

We had just left the bar, myself, and some of the most senior guys in
the Boston community.

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I say.

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.
.
.
Wha
tt
hef
uc
k
?

I had spent half the night talking to the same girl and these guys took
turns rotating in for wingman duty with her dull friend. Toryn in particular
could have won "Wingman of the Week" for his efforts. I knew in my mind
that I should have been able to pull, but something just didn't feel right.
She was definitely into me, but every time I tried to go sexual or seed the
idea of going to my place, she seemed shy and timid. Was it her? Or was I

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j
ustget
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I am defending myself.

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"Don't start making excuses now, Entropy!"


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Good!Doi
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!

The night, overall, was pleasant and uneventful.


The four of us convened at a favorite venue and played the "give me a
word" approaching game.
The game starts with the four of us standing around and taking turns
opening sets. The other three guys choose a word to give to whoever is
opening -- ideally, the harder the word, the better.
With word in hand, the PUA must then open a set using that word in the
first sentence. Some of the better ones that night included: dingleberry,
fulcrum, scabbard, and schmorgusbord. Despite our best efforts, most of our
sets hooked.
The set in question was actually opened by Groove -- a two-set of HB8's.
Mr. Awesome and I arrived later and somehow we segued into the set and
ended up inadvertently taking it over.

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I pulled Groove aside and offered to give it back, but he said it wasn't
hooking as well for him so they were all mine. I singled out my target and
began gaming. And by gaming, I mean not gaming.
Recently, I've removed ALL attraction game from my arsenal. No banter,
teasing, takeaways, qualification, cocky-funny, DHV's, negs, compliance tests,
shit tests, routines, gimmicks, fuzzy top hats or magic tricks. Nothing...Nada...
Zilch! Just me... nothing else... Just me! And that's been the point of this
experiment: it's just me .., my complete and unabridged self.
I've been focusing on getting as personal and deep as possible as soon as
possible -- to build a deep emotional bond with a girl within a few hours.
Sounds crazy, right? Well, it sure as hell seemed crazy for awhile. Up until
this night, most sets I did this with would give me weird looks, or I'd creep
them out. Some set went well for awhile, but inevitably I'd weird them out by
trying to get too deep and personal too quickly.
When you ask a girl what she would do if she only had one day to live can
be a little intense when she's drunk and has only known you for five minutes.
But I

m digressing. Theoretically, in my mind, I knew this could be some


powerful shit. I think the concept of attraction is so misunderstood in the
community. Literally half of the shit we do when we go out is quixotic and
unnecessary. So in effort to prove my hypothesis, I was experimenting.
I hook the target into a conversation about downloading music or
something else -- pretty bland. She doesn't seem too excited to talk to me,
but I guess I'm more exciting than nothing, so she humors me with
conversation.
Then, I slowly traverse the conversation from music to art to photography
to what she does (graphic design), her passions, where she's from and her
general life story. I don't grill her, but lead her by sharing these same things
myself.
This brings up a good concept; the idea that attraction, comfort and
seduction are not static phases. This means that you can hook into comfort
right away in a set and retroactively build attraction through the things that
we know build attraction. Like socialpr
oof
,t
easi
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c

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Here Entropy has hooked into comfort. He has built compliance by getting
into a deep conversation, then by making her answer these kind of questions.
Thevenuegoesf
orl
astcal
l
.I
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s1AM.I invite her to hop across the street


with me. Testing for compliance, one, two, three Chi
ckmeet
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ngwi
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hher
friend, and she complies. Sweet! I

m get
t
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ngsomewher
e.
We jump across the street. The girls take what seems like a 2 hours

bat
hr
oom br
eakI actually start to think they changed their minds and left.
But finally, they come back.
I sit my girl down with me and continue. We talked about our families,
getting dumped by ex-boyfriends and girlfriends (a blacklisted topic in PUA
theory) our failures and fears, hopes and dreams, blah, blah, blah.
All the meanwhile, the deeper we got, the more emotional we got, the
more I my emotions escalated.
By the end of the night, we were leaning into each other, hands on each
other's legs, smiling and staring into each other's eyes (no false takeaways,
body rocking or darting eyes).
My instincts told me to kiss her, but I didn't really want to. We actually had
a significant conversation, being the "bar make-out guy" would seem to taint
it. Later on, I'd tell myself. I pussy
dout
!
I planted seeds for a bounce and tried to set up sexual and adventurous
frames to no avail.
"What's the most adventurous thing you've done?" was met with "I'm not
very adventurous."... My innuendo and overt sexuality was met with timid
and shy eyes. There'd be no SNL that night.
Chastisement from my wings aside, I did get her number... and valiantly
vowed to fuck her the coming week.
We texted back and forth over the next few days.... Again nothing exciting;
"What's up?" "How's your day?" Blah, blah, blah, etc.
The Date:
It's another few nights before I'm able to meet up with her. She's at a bar
nearby with some of her friends, so I head down there to see what happens.
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It's literally the only night I have free to hang out with her in the next week,
and she's going back to LA for the summer, so probably my only shot.
Despite having only one opportunity with her, I was still determined to
stick to my game-plan. I show up and we make small talk about my shirt and
hers, but it's quickly back into deep conversation. My job, my life goals, plans,
desires and values followed in turn by hers. More kino. More emotional
discussions. More kino. Still no makeout, not even a hint of pulling her home.
Yet, I could tell she was really into me.
Then it happened. Finally! The breakthrough I knew was possible but
hadn't yet experienced.
We were leaning up against each other and still hadn't kissed, and there
was a lull in the conversation. We just held eye contact and smiled for about
five seconds.
And then suddenly, I felt something really weird. It started in my stomach
and then in my chest.... wait... I... I really... I really LIKE this girl. She's great.
I really, really like her. Like... I feel an emotional connection. I genuinely care
about her. Sex aside, I actually give a shit. I had hit a place WITHIN MYSELF
within a few hours, something that I had only reached with girlfriends and girls
I dated for months. I looked into her eyes and could tell she felt the same
thing.
At that moment, I knew she was mine for the rest of the night. There
wasn't a shred of doubt, there were no logistics to deal with (her friends
simply left me alone with her with no questioning -- this whole "being
genuine" thing has its benefits), no excuses, no insecurities, worries, fears.
She trusted me and we would be together for the night. No question.
I was right. At about 1AM I told her I was tired and had work and wanted
to leave. Every other time I've said this, it's been either as a false takeaway,
or to take advantage of her "buying temperature" for the SNL. This time I was
serious. She came outside with me, then walked home with me, then sat on
my bed with me, where we continued to talk about deeper and more personal
things.
What she shared was interesting. She hated bars. She only went because
her friends did. Up until a year ago, she had been overweight (she lost 35
pounds in a little less than a year -- the hardest thing she's ever done or

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worked for). Guys would never talk to her until recently when she lost the
weight.
As a result, she finds herself completely mistrusting any guy's intentions
whatsoever. She had never gone home with a guy from a bar before. When
she did feel comfortable with a guy, her shyness prevented her from being too
sexual or forward with him.
She had a string of guys she dated by never a serious boyfriend. Only guys
who were afraid to get close to her that she was afraid to get close to.
But she said she felt like I knew her better than any of those other guys,
even though we had only spent a few hours together. She trusted me. She
said that she completely trusted me. I finally kissed her.
As the night went on, I turned out the light and began fooling around with
her. This is when she dropped the bomb: she told me she was a virgin.
I've been with five virgins before (well, now six). Most were girlfriends, but
in every case, the girl was conflicted, anxious and dead serious about not
having sex.
I tell guys that LMR with virgins is measured in months, not minutes. It's
true. The last virgin I was with would make out with me at parties for months
until finally one night she just told me to do it.
I had tried to pull all the stops with her -- all of the LMR tactics, the
comfort tactics, freeze-outs, etc. I told her that it was OK, I understand,
secretly hoping she'd think I was so caring and sensitive and then fuck me.
To put it bluntly, trying to ONS a virgin is like playing tennis against a brick
wall... you lose.
My reaction was different this time. As soon as she told me this, I
immediately resigned myself to the thought of fucking her. Without hesitation,
and with complete sincerity I said, "That's OK, you don't have to do anything
you don't want to."
There was a pause. Then she said it: "I want to."
I won't go into the details, but she was so nervous she was shaking. I had
to spend at least 10 minutes just holding her naked until she calmed down
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enough to do it. I double-checked, triple-checked, quadruple-checked. She


was adamant. This was it. It was time to do it. "It feels right," she said.
The sex was actually wonderful. It was the most comfortable, passionate
and exciting one night stand I've ever had.
My goal had been to get a one night stand through nothing but emotional
connection. Not only did I succeed, but I created an incredible, real and
visceral experience between myself and another person.
It's one of the most effortless sets I've had, and it reaped some of the
most insane results I've ever had. I closed A VIRGIN within four hours with NO
LMR. I couldn't wrap my head around it. It goes against so much the
community regards as textbook and sacrosanct. I couldn't sleep.
The next morning wasn't awkward, cold or harsh. It was emotional and
pleasant. She's moving. We have no intention of ever seeing each other again.
Amazingly, this was fine. She didn't suddenly want to be my girlfriend or
date me or have a long distance relationship. She simply appreciated what I
shared with her; for giving her such a pleasant experience. She thanked me
for taking her virginity.
Wai
tasecond
She THANKED me for taking her virginity... Then without a "call me" or a
"good bye" she kissed my cheek and left.
You can learn more about Entropy on his blog at www.entropy4.blogspot.com

DATES BROKEN DOWN BY SINN:


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down into two categories logistics and escalation.
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The most important thing in my mind about dates is where they start.
There's only one correct answer here and that's at your place.

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Now this assumes you live near where your date is going to happen. If you
don't something is wrong and you should plan a date closer to your place. Or
plan the date close to where she lives and try to get back to her place as you
read about Doc Holliday doing earlier in the book.
There are always cool neighborhood bars, coffee shops, restaurants etc,
near where you/her live. You just need to get out and actually find them. But
makesur
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the fly like Entropy had to. Remember to remain flexible and creative. You
need to look for opportunities while having a plan.
So you've set up your date and you tell her to meet you at your place. But
I don
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emeet
i
ngmeatmypl
ace.I tell them to meet me on
the corner of the streets I live on. When I lived in Hollywood I told girls to
meet me on the corner of Hollywood and Wilcox. Then I always tell them to
"call me when you get there and I'll come out."
When they call I come out to meet them, but WHOOPS:
Forgot my
wallet!Thatmeanswehavet
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l
yi
mpor
t
antt
hatyouget
the girl used to being in your place without you trying to make a move on her.
My wing Captain Jack alternatively tries to escalate when they come in and
if he can't close them then (Which is rare for him) he
l
ltake them on the date.
That's another strategy though he does have super powers that mere mortals
should use that at their own risk. However with the correct sexual framing and
arousal it is possible.
Most importantly showing a woman your home takes away the fear of the
unknown for her and it will be far easier to get her back to your place later.
The next thing EVERY date needs is multiple venues. The more places you
spend time with a woman in, the longer it will feel like she has known you.
My particular date goes through up to 7 different locations, not counting
mypl
ace.I
t

svery important that you lead when going from venue to venue.
You never ask a woman if she wants to go check out this and that bar. Instead
yout
el
lheryou
r
egoi
ngt
ohi
tt
henextbar
.
I
fshedoesn
twantt
o or she suggests something else, remain flexible, the
i
deai
st
hatyou
r
eal
eadernotadi
ct
at
or
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Using multiple venues is how you can do dinner dates without setting up a
traditional dinner date. In the middle of doing something else just casually
mention how hungry you are and suggest stopping in somewhere for a bite.
While you're on the date you should be filling in the empty canvas of your
life.
Now is the time to talk about your hopes and dreams, the things you are
passionate about, your friends, and family, hobbies, etc. It's time to literally
be yourself.
One of the things every girl will think when she's on a date with you is:
"How would my life be different if this guy were my boyfriend".
So you want to make sure you paint a vivid picture of your life. I tend to
rant about things, because that's how I am. I also run my grounding sequence
on my first date, as I know I'll have her undivided attention for at least 25
minutes.
A grounding routine is a fancy name for exchanging life stories. The more
you get to know what motivates another person and what their hopes, fears,
dreams and aspirations are, the more you understand each other. The more
youguysunder
st
andeachot
hert
hemor
eyoucanunder
st
andeachot
her

s
sexual sides.
I
t

sof
t
enaskedi
fyoushoul
dkeepi
tsuper
f
i
ci
alor get deeper. My answer is
that you should get deep but keep it fun!
A lot of guys will make the mistake of neglecting attraction entirely on the
date. You need to remind her periodically of why she was attracted to you in
the first place.
Fun is the most important factor in all of your dealings with women but
especially with dates. If she's having fun whatever you are actually doing
doesn't matter.
Conversely, if she isn't having fun you could be doing her favorite thing in
the world and she'll hate it ... and by proxy you. So keep things playful and
flirty the entire way, but don't be afraid to demonstrate your passion and the
things you actually care about.

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KISSING ON DATES
You should be kissing the girl as soon as you think you can. If you made
out when you met her then you have to be able to tell when she hugs you
hello if you can kiss her right away. Usually I will hold off on kissing in the
beginning to build some more sexual tension for later.
Now we
r
egoi
ngt
odi
scusshow t
oescal
at
ethings further.
The most important thing about building sexual tension so you can get her
back to your place is to break the physical barriers early on.
You need to re-establish touching as soon as you see her. When you see
her you need to give her a big hug and then push her away. You want to
retain the reset model of touching where you break all physical contact after
every escalation.
Butyoudon
twantt
owast
eanyt
i
mei
nescal
at
i
ngt
het
ouchi
ng.You
shoul
dbehol
di
nghandswhenyou
r
ewal
ki
ngor driving to the first venue. You
also want to look for random opportunities to kiss her, especially i
fi
tdi
dn
t
feel right at the beginning. The Don kisses girls at a random traffic light then
pushest
hem awayandwal
ksacr
osst
hest
r
eet
.I
t

sagr
eatt
echnique.
One of my favorite ways to build sexual tension is through the use of the
almost kiss. I learned this from Future and it is still my favorite way to kiss a
girl.
Somewhere on my date I will look at herwhi
l
eshe
st
al
ki
ngI

l
lsay:You
know i
t

sr
eal
l
yhar
df
ormet
opayat
t
ent
i
ont
owhatyou
r
esayi
ngwhenI
keep thinking about kissing you. But I know we
r
enotr
eadyf
or that yet, so I
t
el
lyouwhatwe
r
egoi
ngt
odo.We
r
egoi
ngt
o
almost kiss.
Then I get them to pinky swear not kiss me and I promise not to kiss
them. Then you get really close to their lips for about 2 seconds. This is great
for building sexual tension - because a few minutes later you can call it back
andsayyou
r
er
eadyf
oranot
heral
mostki
ss.
Another thing you want to do to build sexual tension is alternate sexual
indicators of interest with regular qualification statements and comfort frames.

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Dates are all about comfort, so first and foremost the focus of our
interaction should be on making the girl as comfortable with us as possible, by
letting her get to know us.
By demonstrating who we are and where we came from, she gets to know
us and feels more comfortable around us. She
sst
ar
t
i
ngt
ogetani
deaofhow
you are going to act at any given time.
We also need to get her to become comfortable with our touch and our
indicators of interest. That means we are going to be cycling qualification and
compliments into our comfort material.
We need to hit on the girl a lot, and demonstrate that we are attracted to
her both physically as well as for her non-physical attributes.
Then we need to introduce sexuality. Qualification is the mechanism we use
to move between comfort and seduction. This fractionating between hitting on
her sexually, qualifying her and building comfort is what leads to getting laid
on dates.
Yousaw someext
r
emeexampl
esoft
hi
si
nal
lofElTopo
sLayr
epor
t
s.But
notice how he sexualizes EVERY interaction.
The next key step in getting girls back to your place is handling closing
logistics.
You need to have a reason to bring her back to your place. I always loan
girls books at the end of the date or offer to let them come up to use the
bathroom and get a glass of water, if I coul
dn
tgett
hem upanyot
herway.
As you saw in Br
adP
sr
epor
tyoucanuseanyt
hi
ngevenavi
deogamest
o
get girls back to your place. The key idea here is that you have SOME reason
to go back.
This is where having a cool movie, a great new piece of music and even a
cool or different type of wine or liquor like Absinthe comes into play.
We want to create plausible deniability, sot
hatshedoesn
tf
eelgui
l
t
yf
or
comi
ngup.I
t

sal
soi
mpor
t
antt
ouseaf
al
set
i
meconst
r
ai
ntwhenbr
i
ngi
nga
girl home, i
fonl
yt
omakehert
hi
nkshecan
tspendt
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ght

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Lastly you need to let her know that you are interested in having sex with
her
.Andi
t

sherf
aul
tf
orbei
ngsosexy Thi
si
swhatpr
eppi
ngi
sal
labout
.
Prepping statements simply let a woman know what you are planning to do
later with her. Saying something like: Youhavenoi
deawhatI

mt
hi
nki
ng
about doing to you right now.... stop being cute! This is both a prep and a
release, which helps to build up the tension.
But you have made a sexual indicator of interest. The more of these you
can do the better. This is the art of coquetting. I learned this from all the
exotic dancers I dated.
You sexually pull girls in, then push them away and take away their
sexuality with a tease and a comfort building conversation. Make sure you
demonstrate interest in her and show that you want to have sex with her.
Now you guys know how to set up and start dates, the amount of venues
to take them through, what to talk about while on a date, and how to escalate,
build sexual tension and get girls home with you.
Pl
usyou
veseensomegr
eatexampl
esf
r
om someoft
hebesti
nt
hewor
l
d.
I
t

st
i
met
omoveont
o

SAME NIGHT LAYS


What is a same night lay? The term, coined by Captain Jack in 2005 refers
to a sexual relationship that starts on the first night and continues. This is
directly opposed to the one night stand, which is a one-time only thing.
CaptainJack is the unquestioned master of the same night lay. In fact, I
moved from Los Angeles to Dallas to hang out with CJ and learn his secrets.
That resulted in the infamous same night lays seminar. To learn more about
the same night lays seminar go to www.Sinnsofattraction.com

LR: CAPTAINJACK BLOWS UP A CAR: CAPTAINJACK


Hey Guys: My nights just keep getting wilder! So my wing and I decide to
go to one of our favorite sarging places. I'm pea-cocked, but I wait too friggin'

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long before opening a set, so I'm frozen for about the first 30 minutes
(sucks!)...
Anyway, I finally gather the requisite balls to chat to someone; a mixed 2set and I get AMOG'ed - damn - wasn't expecting that shit - he was pretty
damn GOOD!
But, I still felt good after opening the set, so I opened another. It didn't go
anywhere, but regardless ... I'm feeling better!
On the fourth set, another mixed 2-set I opened using David Bowie...
Girl: "No, he's too old -- but I LOOOOOOVE your hat."

Me: "Oh yeah? Cool, my girlfriend got it for me. She's a stripper (total
lie - no gf) and she knows where to get all that crazy shit."
HBprogrammer: "Oh, you have a girlfriend? Too bad!"
Me: "Yeah. She's not here."
HBprogrammer: "That's good!"

So, I ALREADY have attraction. But, do I need to neg? I decided no. But, there
was still the AFC to worry about.

Me: "Introduce me to your boyfriend - it's the polite thing to do."


HBpr
og
r
a
mmer
:

ohhi
m?He'
snotmyboy
f
r
i
end.
"
AFC slinks into the distance - shoulders slump (poor guy!)
Me
:
(
s
ens
i
ngs
he'
ss
t
i
l
l
abi
ti
nt
e
r
e
s
t
edi
nhi
m)
Awwww,
c
omeon!He'
d
be perfect for you! Buys you flowers all the time - call you ten times
a day"
This is one of the best openers for a mixed 2 setwher
et
heguyobvi
ousl
yi
sn
t
doing well with the girl. You walk up and whisper this in her ear:
He'
dbe
perfect for you! Buys you flowers all the time - call you ten times a day". Then
wal
kaway.I
fi
t

sonshe
l
lpul
lyouback.

HBprogrammer: "OMG, no! I can't stand that!"

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Me: Silent at this point, I'm getting ai's from about three
different sets. So, I just chill to see if she says anything. She
reopens me about something. I go into my "Nazi ring" story...
HBprogrammer: "oh, i thought you were catholic?"
Me: *laughing my ass off*
Me: "Ooooh, are you catholic. OMG, don
t tell me your catholic!
Every catholic chick I've been out with is into handcuffs and shit!
We can't talk anymore!"(semi-back turn with smile) ... A great
sexual frame.
HBprogrammer: *grabs my arm and pulls me over* "regular
fucking is great for me"
To make a long story short, I bounced her outside for another 15-20 minutes
of conversation. Found out she's a programmer (like I used to be), blah, blah,
make out, she throws out hints like "do you have to be at work early?" and
"How far away do you live?"
Thesehi
nt
sar
egr
eatquest
i
onst
oaskgi
r
l
swhenyou
r
el
ining up logistics.
We get to her car and chat for another 20-30 minutes - at this point there
is about 1 hour total invested in the sarge - we decide to go to her place.
FOOLS MATE! Way too easy! NO LMR! Shit, hardly even any comfort.
After the 1.5 hour fuck session we're lying there in bed and she's says:
"ooh, Captain Jack, you're the best! OMG that tongue! BLAH, BLAH, BLAH" and
there's a knock on the door. Of course, my sphincter puckers because I'm
thinking, "Dude! You're about to get jacked. SETUP!"
She comes back. By this time, I'm fully dressed and looking for possible
weapons, in case I need to fight my way out of this setup.
I
tt
ur
nsouti
t

sthe police and they tell her that a white Pontiac


Grand Am has caught fire in the parking lot.
So we sit on the bed for a minute and we're laughing at the poor
schmuck whose car caught on fire...

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Wait a mi
nut
e!Mycari
swhi
t
e!And,i
t

sa Sunbird not a Grand Am. Could


they have told her the wrong model? I go downstairs and the cops and fire
dept. are out there.
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
DAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMN!
Cop says: "Sir, it looks like a fire started in the engine compartment."
Now, I have NO CAR.
HBProgrammer drives me home. And, guess what? My BRAND, SPANKING
NEW AUDIO RECORDER WAS IN THE CAR. Now I

m Captain Jack Sparrow


(car-less in DFW)

LR: DRUNK REDNECKS: CAPTAIN JACK


Thi
sone
saboutdrunk rednecks... a HOT bartendress ... Karaoke night ...
and more drunk rednecks.
I didn't have any intention of gaming last night. I was just out to grab a
bite to eat. I had just finished reading about half of Tucker Max's book "I hope
they serve beer in hell" and laughing so hard my stomach muscles hurt. I
think laughing makes you hungry.
As luck would have it the bartendress at the restaurant I went to was an
8.5 or 9, tiny blonde with pert breasts. A real blonde as her eyebrows
revealed.

HBBartendress: "Would you like a beer?"


CaptainJack: "Slow down! <shaking my head> Let me start off with a
diet coke and we'll get to the alcohol later..."
I ordered the food from her and chatted with the male bartender a bit.
When she'd try to chime in and just say "Um, yeah" or "Okaaaaay"
I asked her what drink was good and she made me some silly
espresso martini drink.

HBBartendress: "Was it good?"

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CaptainJack: "Pretty good. 10% chocolate, 90% Butane"


I strung a few more of these wisecracks together to make her giggle and
she started opening up. I ran Strawberry fields on her and she ate it up.
My next objective was to run the Godiva Chocolate Pattern on her since she
admitted to me her favorite thing in the world is chocolate.
But, two dorks came in and JUST HAPPENED to be in town on business
from HER little bitty ass home town in Michigan.
That sucked because it pulled her attention away from me for a while as
they discussed stupid things about their town.
Finally, I managed to get her attention again and for some reason I went
Juggler on her ass.
Here CaptainJack demonstrates his willingness to experiment with different
st
yl
es.Youshoul
dn
tbecomedogmat
i
cwhenl
ear
ni
ngthe game. Always
remember that rules exist to be broken!
We talk about vacations, trips, future goals and dreams. I make her laugh
she looks deeply in my eyes and smiles and we melt into that dreamy
Jugglerish rapport state. Until she says that she LOVES cold weather and
hates the beach.
I smile for a sec while I think "Are you fucking stupid? You LIKE cold
weather? You hate the beach?"
Guys can like cold weather or warm or whatever. But, I can't stand chicks
that like cold weather. I don't know why.
I snap to attention and say, "That's horrible. Cold weather sucks"

HB: "What?"
CJ: "Gimme the beach, the sun..."
HB: "I hate the heat. I whine about it...especially humidity."
I can understand not liking humidity...I forgive her...but only because
those tits are so nice.

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We get into relationship talk and she tells me she has a 10-month old little
girl at home from a psycho ex boyfriend. She has a child? That body is so tight
I can't imagine how.
I start talking about the Hooka bar to prepare my Time Bridge when those
2 idiots interrupt us.
This is the concept of seeding. Before you set up a date with a girl (or time
bridge) you want to first set the scene. The way you set the scene is with a
story that happens to take place where you want to take her. That way when
you set up the date, she
sal
r
eadyhear
dabouti
t
.
She leaves for about 15 minutes and comes back in a decidedly different
mood. Anyway, I ask for my check and decide to re-initiate my Time Bridge.
HB: "I don't get out much with work and the baby and all....but thanks!"
Something happened in that 15 minutes, but I'll never know what, I felt
like the TB and # close was imminent. I could've... should've... spent a little
more time getting her back in state before doing the TB again, but oh well.
Hindsight is 20/20.
The local bar is just a short walk from the restaurant so I head over. It is
pretty friggin' crowded for a cold Sunday night.
I roll in and start marking out Targets.
I open an HB9 at the bar. Instead of using a canned opener I just open my
mouth and start speaking.

CJ: "hi!"
HB: "Hi!" <smiling real big>
CJ: "You going to sing?" ** Sunday night is Karaoke night **
HB: "Nooooooo, they would ask me to leave. I can't sing"
CJ: "Ha ha, so you don't sing in the shower? That's where I get all my
singing done."
HB: "Ha Ha" <smiling real big>

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This is something that KinoMaster and I realized earlier that day.


When I use canned shit I can usually just keep threading along. But, when
I open with something unplanned, I often don't have that thing in my head
that says, "New thread ... Now!"
It is vitally important to get off your opener. We call this milking the
opener and it is a very common mistake, especially among beginners.
You can have a 20 minute conversation about jealous girlfriends, buti
ti
sn
t
helping you.
The bartender handed her the drinks and she smiled and said "bye!" as she
pranced off.
Ah well, if I seeheragai
n
I suddenly felt eyes on me. An HB that was talking to a dude who looked
amazingly like one of the Hanson brother singers, turned to look at me. I look
back and smile. She smiled.

HB:

Ca
nI f
e
el
y
ours
c
a
r
f
?

CJ
:

T
e
l
l
meaj
ok
ef
i
r
s
t
.

HB: <some stupid joke>


CJ
:

We
l
l
,
Ig
ues
st
ha
t

l
l
do
Shest
ar
t
sr
ubbi
ngoni
t
.Thi
si
sasi
mpl
epeacocki
t
em.I
t

sj
ustaf
l
uf
f
yki
nd
of scarf. The thing looks like a feather boa (without the feathers).
I also have two watches on the same wrist and a black sweat band on the
other wrist. I am hatless since I wore my hat Saturday night.
She rubs it and I get ready to run some tight game and blow the Hanson
Brother out
whenI feel ANOTHER set of hands on my scarf.
I look over and see two rednecks. One of them is so drunk he is wavering.
The other is obviously drunk, but still has most of his motor functions working.
He is wearing a Mighty Mouse T-Shirt with a cowboy hat and jeans. Mighty
Mousesays,
Dude,whyar
eyouwear
i
ngt
hi
s?

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AF
CDr
unk
:

Ar
ey
oug
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
y
?

Mi
g
ht
y
Mous
e:

Y
e
a
h,
ma
n,
t
ha
ts
c
a
r
fi
ss
og
a
y
.

CJ
:

Ha!Ha!<Turning away to ignore them and start running game


again>When MightyMouse decides it would be a good idea to try
and TAKE the
scarf off my neck. I grab it just in time.>
Mi
g
ht
y
Mous
e
:

Yous
houl
dn
tbewea
r
i
ngt
hi
sg
a
yt
hi
ng

CJ
:
I

mnota
boutt
ot
a
k
ef
a
s
hi
ont
i
psf
r
omag
uywea
r
i
ngaMi
g
ht
y
Mouse t-shirt with a cowboy hat.
Now, I don
tcondonet
hi
s,but it was highly fun. So as I said it, I stepped
into their space and widened out. I put one hand on my side belt loop and
widened my stance. Then, I tilted my head back and looked down at them.
They got visibly nervous. One of their other friends noticed me fanning out like
a Cobra and noticed them beginning to cower back. He pulled both of them
aside and had a heated discussion with them.
During all of this, the HB that I was about to take from Hanson had moved
to the other side of them. Turns out she was friends with MightyMouse and
AFCDrunk. Shortly after that AFCDrunk wobbled off to the bathroom.
Not even a minute later, there is a commotion and the bouncers are
escorting AFCDrunk out of the place. MightyMouse looks at me and asks if I
know wher
et
hatchi
cki
sIdeci
det
ohavemor
ef
unatMi
ght
yMouse
s
expense.

CJ
:

Y
oume
a
nt
ha
tc
hi
c
kt
ha
twa
sa
l
l
ov
e
rme
?

Mi
g
ht
y
Mous
e:

Y
e
a
h,
myf
r
i
e
ndg
otk
i
c
k
edouta
nds
he
smyonl
yr
i
de
now.

CJ
:

Awdude,
s
hewas chatting up those three bl
a
c
kg
uy
sov
e
rt
her
e.

(In reality, she stopped briefly to chat with them but stayed no more
than 30 seconds.)
And, this is something else I don
tcondone,but MightyMouse had already
pissed me off and revenge can be fun.
Actually, there were only two guys over there to begin with not three, but
it allowed me to set this up.
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CJ
:
Wa
i
t
?T
her
e
sonl
ytwo g
uy
st
he
r
enowa
nds
he
sg
one.
I

dg
o
c
he
c
kont
heot
hers
i
des
he
spr
oba
bl
yha
ng
i
ngoutwi
t
ht
ha
tbl
a
c
k
dude
.
<His face reddened>
Mi
g
ht
y
Mous
e
:

F
uc
k
enni
g
g
e
r
s
!

After I did it I thought about what a stupid idea it was (even though it was
fun). I coul
d
vest
ar
t
ed a fight for no reason.... stupid... I shoul
dn
thavedone
it, and, now I regretted it. But it was fun, because the black dudes were just
out having fun and hitting on girls, just like every other guy in the bar. It
wasn
tr
i
ghtf
ormet
opot
ent
i
al
l
yendangert
hem.
Unfortunately, I only thought about that AFTER I made the comment. I
really doubted MightyMouse would do anything, but with enough alcohol you
never know.
As fate would have it, another HB7+ sauntered up to the bar right next to
me.
Iexecut
ed(
f
l
awl
essl
y)myopenerf
ort
heni
ght

CJ
:

Y
oug
onnas
i
ng
?

HBHot
E
y
es
:
*
g
i
g
g
l
e
s
*
OhNooooo, I a
mt
ooemba
r
r
a
s
s
ed.
Bl
a
h,
Blah,
Blah.
We spend the next 45 minutes talking. Apparently she is waiting for a
friend, butdoesn
thaveacel
lphonet
ocal
landseewher
eshei
s.
Whi
l
et
al
ki
ngMi
ght
yMousei
snot
i
ci
ngt
hatI

m notact
ual
l
ygayand I have
more game than him. This irritates him and he starts chatting with every chick
who walks by. He gets shot down, repeatedly.
A dude walks by and pukes on this cute Asian girl. She stands up and lets
out this shriek, as she views what could easily pass for Clam Chowder all over
her jeans and the bottom of her shirt.
About a minute later there is another commotion and Hanson and his
buddies are tossed out.

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A dudewal
ksupandst
ar
t
schat
t
i
ngushebuysmeandHBHot
Eyesdrinks
t
hent
hi
ngs start to get a little hazy. I spy another chick who is probably an
HB7 face with a killer HB9 body.

S
hef
i
ng
er
smeov
e
ra
nds
a
y
s
,

My friend thinks you are soooooo


HOT!
Her friend looks almost EXACTLY like that red-headedchi
ckon
That70s
showfor some reason I can
tgameof
fofani
nt
r
oduct
i
on.SoI just kind of
fumble around. My HBHotEyes is left ALONE at the bar where I was
While talking to HBHotRedHead some fat chicks walk by and look
seductively at me then hands me a shot. I
t

sJ
agermeister and I don
t
particularly care for it.
HBHotRedHead is kind of boring. I think my social proof has her
overpowered or something. I tell HBFriend I

l
lbeback.Ri
ghtbef
or
eI go, she
hands me another shot of Jagermeister. I now have two shots ofJ
aeger
one
in each hand. I try to give it away but nobody wants it. So I decide to down
them both. Yuck!
I faintly hearsomeonei
nt
hebackgr
ound
Dude!Doubl
eofJ
ager
!
!
!

I stroll over to HBHotEyes and MightyMouse is saying something to her.


She rolls her eyes and turns back to me.
She says,
Hekeepssayi
ngnott
ogohomewi
t
hyoubecauseyou
r
egay.

I pull her to the other side and she asks to borrow my cell.

CJ
:

Ohg
od,
y
ou
r
eg
oi
ngt
obea
s
k
i
ngf
ormywa
l
l
e
tnex
t

HB:

l
l
l
e
a
v
emypur
s
ej
us
tl
etmebor
r
owi
t
.

She says her friend is at so-and-so bar and asks if I want to follow her.
CJ
:

Y
e
s
,
I do!

BUT at this point I havehad


Anespr
essomar
t
i
ni
3beer
s
2RoyalFucks

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2shot
sofJ
aeger
3St
ar
bur
st
s
I tell her that I would, but I can
tandshel
ookssadandsays
Well, at least
let me buy you a shot before I go.

So she grabs my hand and leads me to the other side, where she buys me
a shot of Patron. Then she number closes me, gives me a sexually nasty hug
and leaves.
I go back to HBFriend and she starts dancing sexy on me. I sit there and
then get up. I start talking to her guy friend.

CJ
:

Dude
,
y
ous
houl
dj
us
tt
a
k
eherhomer
i
g
htnow.

AF
C:

Aw,
we

r
ej
us
tf
r
i
ends
,
wel
i
v
ei
nt
hes
a
mec
ompl
ex

She takes me onto the dance floor and shoves me onto the stage and gives
me ANOTHER lap dance. Her face was plain, but her body was SUPER HOT.
When we come back HBHotRedhead pulls her aside and they have an
ani
mat
edconvo.They
ver
eal
l
yonly known each other for about an hour or
two. HBHotRedhead gives me a sad look.
When your level of social proof and pre-selection hits a certain point, you
don
thavet
or
unmuchgameatal
l
.
I bounced her and her friend to a restaurant; sort of li
keDenny
swe
at
ethen called a cab.
When we got back to her place, she had a cat and started asking me dumb
shit like
What do you do for a livingand other bullshit.
Thi
si
st
hef
unnyt
hi
ngaswe
r
et
al
ki
ngshest
ar
t
sundr
essi
ngl
i
kei
t

sno
big deal. She talks, and in order to hear and respond I follow her. She changes
into a shirt and some shorts and walks into the bathroom and pees. All the
while just talking like this is all normal.
And, her body was MUCH hotter than I imagined it.

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We fucked in her bed. I don


tl
i
kesl
eepi
ngatsomeoneel
se
spl
ace.I
t
sucks. I feel so weird when I wake up naked and some strange girl
s cat is
looking at me about 6 inches from my face.
I
t

sagoodt
hi
ngI di
dn
thavemycart
her
ebecausei
twassoweird that I
woul
d
vegot
t
eni
nmycarandl
ef
tprobably still a little too drunk to drive.
I debated on the way to my car if I was going to number close her. I TRULY
wanted to fuck her again, because she probably has one of the top three
bodi
esI

veever seen naked.


She talked about the most boring shit on the way to my car. I don
tknow
hernameanddi
dn
tnumbercl
oseher
.
Another same-night lay. Cool. This is a classic example of Captain Jack
Method. Hang out until sex happens

LR: CAPTAINJACK GIVES HBTEACHER A LESSON IN


TAKEAWAYS
April, 2006
Tribulus and I chat on the phone for awhile and decide to meet up and
have some dinner.
I

vebeenmovi
ngal
ldaysoI

mt
i
r
edashel
l
backhur
t
sknees
hur
t
muscl
essor
esoI t
el
lhi
mI

m notsur
ehow muchsar
gi
ngI

l
lact
ual
l
y
do, but we can at least just hang out and have some fun.
There are always reasons not to go out, there are always reasons not to
open sets. At the end of the day all that matters is whether or not you do the
approaches.I
fyoudot
heappr
oachesyougetbet
t
er
,i
fyoudon
tyouwon
t
.
I
t

sassi
mpl
east
hat
.
(I missed Wednesday night sarging. While I was reading on the couch my
eyeskeptcl
osi
ngunt
i
lI wasf
astasl
eepKi
noMast
ercal
l
edat9:
15andI had
plans to sarge with the AsianPlayboy but I was already in dreamland so I told
KinoMaster I was too pooped and texted APB and fell back to sleep for 12
straight hours of freaky dreams brought on by reading too much sociobiology.)

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I get to TGI Fridays about 9:30 and Tribulus is there. He starts gaming the
l
i
t
t
l
ebl
onde/
bl
ueeyedbar
t
endr
essatt
hebarwhi
l
eI

m seat
edaf
ew f
eetaway
at a nearby table. He used Email Breakup.
When she comes over we take turns pumping her BT. I show Tribulus my
modified version of Spells Opener laced with NLP embedded commands.
I overheard that she was married when Tribulus talked to her earlier, so I
KNEW anything we did would have to be pure bad boy sexual stereotype. So
when she comes over and asks me if the girl and I were serious, I say:

CJ
:

mne
v
ers
er
i
ous
.

HB:

Di
dy
oubuyherpr
es
ent
sora
ny
t
hi
ng

CJ & Tribulus: <laugh>


HB:

Note
v
e
nl
i
ng
e
r
i
e
?

CJ
:

I
ha
v
ea
nent
i
r
ec
l
os
etofl
i
ng
er
i
ef
org
i
r
l
s
I
j
us
tt
el
l
t
hemt
og
oi
n
a
ndpi
c
kt
hei
rs
i
z
e
.
Her eyes got wider.
Idi
dsomemor
est
uf
ft
hatI

vef
or
got
t
ennow, but she was definitely
interested in hanging out with us. Too bad she was at work otherwise we
coul
d
vepul
l
edhert
oX-Bar with us.
Most of the time Tribulus and I just chatted and had lots of fun. So much
f
unt
hatal
adycameoverandsai
dsomet
hi
ngl
i
ke,
Youguysar
ej
usthavi
nga
GREATt
i
me!
t
owhi
chweagr
eed.
I

venot
i
cedt
hati
fyougooutandhavef
unwi
t
hyourbr
ost
hatof
t
engi
r
l
s
wi
l
lopenyouandatt
hever
yl
eastt
hey
r
emor
el
i
kel
yt
ogi
veAI

soropen
up immediately when you open (for more see:
Subj
ect
:Hi
tDem Swi
t
chesAppr
oachAnxi
et
yKi
l
l
i
ngf
r
om myar
chi
vef
oranot
herexampl
et
hatl
edt
oa
lay).
So we rolled over to X-Bar and grabbed a table. I was just leaning back
taking the sights in and watching Tribulus open a few sets. Then Aladdin came
with one of his friends so I started chatting with them.
Finally! I spied an HB9 Latina across the bar. I went over and she was with
a guy, but she smiled real big at me. I spied a two set of Blondes at a table
directly in eyesight of my Target and her man.

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I decided to open the blondes and get them super into me, then merge
forward, giving the dude the two blondes in exchange for the Latina
Merging is a simply introducing people to people. You open one set say
somet
hi
ngl
i
ke
Let

sgomakesomef
r
i
ends.
Putt
hegi
r
l
sonyourar
msi
fyou
can and then open another set with the girls in tow.
This accomplishes a lot. It builds social proof, pre-selection, and
disqualifies you as a potential suitor since you have girls with you already. It
ALMOSTwor
kedl
i
keachar
m. Her
e
swhathappened:
I rolled over to the table and opened. Much to my surprise they opened
amazingly well and asked me to sit down immediately.
We started vibing immediately. They were with the band. The obstacle,
HBTitties used to go out with the drummer, butsheswear
she
sgay... but
j
usthasn
tcomeoutoft
hecl
oset
.
HBTeacher, the Target, immediately started giving me compliments and
I
OI

s.I amped up the Kino through the roof and had her sitting on my lamp
within about 2 minutes.
HBTi
t
t
i
esaskedmet
oguessHBTeacher

sage.I guessed 28 and she was


30or32(
can
tr
emember
)
.Shel
ookedabout26-28.
HBTitties guessed my age as 22. Ha Ha. Is she trying to neg?

CJ
:

OMGhi
g
he
r
!

HBT
i
t
t
i
es
:

25?

CJ
:

Wha
tador
k
hi
g
her
!

HBTi
t
t
i
es:
Youar
eNOTol
dert
han25<CJ rolls his eyes and exhales as if
he
sf
l
ust
er
ed.Whydochi
ckst
hi
nkt
heycan argue with me about my age?>
The wholet
i
mewe
r
edoi
ngt
hi
sHBTeacheri
ssi
t
t
i
ngonmyl
apandI

m
r
ubbi
nghert
ant
hi
ghs(
she
si
nami
ni
-skirt).

CJ
:

Ok
,
I

l
l
ma
k
eabetwi
t
hy
ou,
i
fI

mol
dert
ha
n25t
heny
ouha
v
et
o
g
i
v
emeahi
c
k
e
yr
i
g
hther
e<pointing to the left side of my neck>
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HBTitties: <T
hi
nk
i
ng
t
hi
nk
i
ng
s
mok
ec
omi
ngf
r
om little blonde
he
a
dt
hi
nk
i
ng
>
Ok
!

HBTeacher gets off of me, while I grab my wallet. Show HBTitties my DL


while shaking my head.
HBTitties gives me a semi-good hickey. HBTeacher looks like she
st
hi
nking
WTF? I pull her back into my lap.
If
i
gur
eatt
hi
spoi
ntI

vebui
l
tasol
i
damountofsoci
alpr
oofandpr
eselection to go game my Latina HB9 I look over andt
hey
r
eGONE!
DAMNIT!
Somewher
eaboutt
hi
st
i
meHBTi
t
t
i
esnumbercl
osesme.We
vebeen
t
ext
i
ngbackandf
or
t
hmaybeI

l
lbanghert
oo.
CJ actually did end up getting this girl too in a lay report called the 100%
per
f
ectt
woset
.Youcanf
i
ndt
hatandCJ

sf
r
eear
chi
vesat
www.betheseducer.com
Aw wel
l
,guessI

l
lj
usthavet
ogamet
heset
wohor
nybl
ondechi
cks.Si
gh.
HBTeacher tells me that the drummer was fucking HBTitties in the ass and
he shot a super-mega load. (Another piece of evidence to support her idea
that he is gay. Cool.)
I vibe with them for awhile longer and the announcer makes the last call
speech.

HBT
i
t
t
i
ess
a
y
s
,

I
ha
v
et
opee
l
et

sg
ot
ot
heba
t
hr
oom.

CJ
:
Met
oo!

I go to the bathroom with them and pull HBTeacher into the first stall. It
was too funny... there were little feet in the stall next to us.
HBTitties tried to come in with us,butt
hewomen
sstalls are like HALF the
si
zeofwhatyou
df
i
ndi
namen
sr
oom (
andt
her
ewer
el
i
ke8oft
hem
compared to our 3).

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Another missed threesome? I think so. Fuck! If I got both of them in there
I woul
d
vemadeoutwi
t
hbot
handt
r
i
edt
opul
lt
hem bot
h.
I immediately start making out with her and she went crazy. I pulled down
her shirt and started sucking on her boobies. I reached under her skirt and felt
her J. Lo booty. Very nice!
I reached around and started playing with her clit and then fingered her.
She shoved her hand down my pants to find major wood.
I

mt
hi
nki
ng,
Fuckyeah!Fi
r
stbat
hr
oom f
uck!
SoI pull her hand out of
my pants and turn her around and push her forward to get her to lean over.
I

m goi
ngt
opul
lupherski
r
tandt
akeherf
r
om behi
nd.

Nog
o.
S
hes
t
opsmea
nds
a
y
s
,

Weha
v
et
og
o!

We head out and I t


el
l
her

Awma
n,
y
ouha
v
et
ot
a
k
emehome.

We chat a bit on the way there. I mainly just make sure there is no quiet
t
i
mesoshecan
tf
eeluncomf
or
t
abl
e.Att
hi
spoi
nti
nt
hesar
geI start making
commands.
Ineversay,
Heywannacomei
nsi
de?Ij
ustassumeit and point to an
empty spot, only
Par
kt
her
e.

HBTEacher:
I

mnotc
omi
ngi
n.
I just met you. If you want to see me
a
g
a
i
ny
ouc
a
nc
a
l
l
mel
i
k
eanor
ma
l
per
s
on.

Ok.Let

sgobackt
oX-BarandI

l
lt
el
lyouhow t
ogethomef
r
om t
her
e.

(She was stressing in the car about getting lost as she originally followed her
friend oversot
hat

swhyI said that.)

HBTeacher:
Howa
r
ey
oug
oi
ngt
og
ethome?

HBTeacher:
I
ha
v
eami
l
l
i
onf
r
i
e
nds
,
I

l
l
j
us
tc
a
l
l
onef
orar
i
de.

CJ: When we got to X-Bar I s


a
i
d,

T
her
e
smyc
a
r
.

HBT
ea
c
he
r
:

OMG,
y
ouba
s
t
a
r
dy
ous
a
i
dy
ounee
dedar
i
dehome
CJ
:

I
wa
sj
us
tt
r
y
i
ngto get you home to fuck you. Ha Ha

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So she parks next to my car and I say,


Ni
cemeet
i
ngyou... then open
t
hedoorandactl
i
keI

ml
eavi
ng.Then,I t
ur
nbackandshe
sl
ooki
ngatme
with t
hi
sOMG he
sl
eavi
ngmef
ace.SoI start making out with her again.
This is a great sequence of what CJ calls babystepping. The idea is you
never want to suggest or tell a girl to do anything that is too big of a request.
Instead you want to ask for smaller things like a ride to your car, or telling her
t
opar
kt
her
ei
nst
eadofexpl
ai
ni
ngwhyshe
spar
ki
ngt
her
e.
I
t

sal
sovi
t
al
l
yi
mpor
t
antt
hatyouavoi
dawkwar
dsi
l
enceswhi
l
et
r
yi
ngt
o
pul
l
.I
tdoesn
thavet
obeanything particularly interesting, but make sure that
you keep talking while in the car, cab, subway, etc.
It
ur
nbackar
oundandactl
i
keI

ml
eavi
ngagai
n.St
op.Tur
nbackand
make out with her again. Start fingering her, etc, etc.
She puts her hands down my pants and I (
becauseI

m such a gentleman)
unbutton them and push her head down. A mediocre blowjob ensues.
Then, I say
Backseat
!
I jump back there and I can hardly get situated
bef
or
eshe
s straddling me. This was cool, butwasn
twor
ki
ng.I
twasasmal
l
SUV and too crammedIl
ai
dherdownandf
i
ni
shed.
It was a bit of a thrill, fucking a chick in a parking lot at 3 am. The fear of
getting caught did add a bit of tension, but not as much as I thought it would.
Funnyt
hi
ngwasi
twasn
therSUVi
twasherf
r
i
endsSUV (not HBTitties, a
di
f
f
er
entf
r
i
end)
hahagi
r
l
sar
esuchsl
ut
s.

This report is a great example of finding a way to make the lay happen. Most
PUA
swoul
dhavebeendi
scour
agedwhenshewoul
dn
tcomei
nt
ot
hehouse
with them and possibly just called it a night. Captain Jack persevered and was
rewarded with a lay.

LR: I HAVE TO PEE! CAPTAIN JACK


Ok,i
t
'
st
akenmeawhi
l
et
ogett
hi
sLR wr
i
t
t
enupbecauseI

vebeen
wor
ki
ngmybut
tof
f
cl
osedamaj
orbusi
ness deal (but no celebration till the

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check isi
nhandandcl
ear
edt
hebank)
andpr
i
mi
ngt
hepumpf
ormor
e
business.
I

vet
ol
dt
hi
sstory to 3 or 4 PAU
sso most of the details are still clear.
Last Wednesday night it was SecondChance's B-day. We meet at
Humperdink's and had dinner and BS for a bit before heading to Carsons.
At Carsons, I had one weird set with a 30-year old hot blond and got a
make out. I could've pulled her, but she was weirding out on me, because she
tried to answer my NORMAL comfort-type questions like she was in some kind
of B Spy Movie: suggestive, sexual, mysterious and weird!
At one point she said she really needed a drink. I was still deciding what to
do (I do buy girls drinks on occasion - example "LR: Apple or Donut" bought
her three beers, no problem) and the waitress came over. The HB yelled her
drink order to the waitress who didn't hear it.
"She said, "Shirley Temple." Ha ha. So the waitress brought her a Shirley
Temple. I showed Fidelio and we had a good laugh.
After awhile I finally ditched her. I noticed her clinging on two separate
guys at other times through the night, they were feeding her drinks. Weird
lady!
At the end of the night the PUA
s gather in the parking lot. We say our
goodbye's and SecondChance says, "I want to see FR's on the board
tomorrow."
CJ: "No way man. I've got a reputation to protect." We all laugh and go our
separate ways. About 3/4ths of the way to my car I remember that I left my
debit card at the bar.
Shit ... I ALWAYS do that. So I go back to the front and the 7 foot bouncer
blocks the doorway. Finally, he allows me to get in after a new bit of drama
eats up his attention. There are two girls freaking out saying their purses were
jacked.
I get in, get my card and go pee. On the way out I seeSecondChance
s
salsa friend. He tells me the girls he was with got their purses jacked. I tell
him I heard two other girls talking to the bouncer and one of them had a flight
t
ocat
chorsomet
hi
ngt
henextday.WeshakehandsandI

m of
f
.
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In the parking lot, I spy a 2-set of brunettes chatting. As I pass by I look


and see two Asian girls. One is an UG2 and the other HB9.
CJ
:
Youguysknow anygoodpl
acest
oeatar
oundher
e.

The Target makes this face: Oh, gawd another guy hitting on my perfect
self -- but the UG saysshedoesn
tknow t
hear
ea.She
sf
r
om Ft
.Wor
t
h.
I mention the only places I know ar
eonBel
t
l
i
ne.Att
hi
st
i
mea63suave
guy saunters into the set. He has a kick-ass shirt on. I wanted to ask him
where he got it, but before I knew it he whisked the HB9 away, leaving me
with the UG.
He totally ignored me and the UG (this factoid becomes important later).
Sowhi
l
eI

mt
al
ki
ngI start walking back to my car. The UG keeps chatting
to me, I notice the HB9 and the SuaveGuy next to his sweet polished chrome
and black Lincoln Navigator. I gi
veasi
del
onggl
ancet
omyf
or
estgr
een
94
Saturn and secretly wonder if it will start up on the first try.
This report should forever answer the questions about whether or not you
need money or a cool car to pull girls. The answer: No.
SuaveGuy and HB9 are on the passenger side of his Navigator and I can
t
see them. I continue talking to the UG and get deep rapport.
HB9 comes back over and when she does the UG mentions eating.
SuaveGuy is in tow.
CJ
:
Wow!Youcandr
essherupbutyoucan
tt
akeheranywher
e!
UG
laughs. HB9
sj
aw dr
opsandSuaveGuy continues ignoring everyone but HB9.
He drags her back over. Then I endure another 3-5 minutes of BS chatting
with UG and she loves me to death. She goes to work for me and tries to grab
HB9away.But
,HB9won
tl
eaveandshesayst
ot
heUG,
Comeon,he
sgoi
ng
t
odr
i
veust
oourcar
.

UG waves at me and they drive off. Oh well.


I decide to go to the Race Track across the street for a refreshing fountain
soda and a snack to prepare for the 40 minute drive home.
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AsI

m wal
ki
ngbackacr
osst
hest
r
eett
owar
dsCar
son
spar
ki
ngl
otI hear
two females yelling. I look and see UG and my Target riding in their car. They
make a u-turn and pull into the parking lot.
The UG is driving and she reopens me. The Target sees the drink in my
hand and says,
Oh,I

mt
hi
r
st
y,t
oo.Whydi
dn
tyougetmeadr
i
nk?
CJ
:
Whywoul
dI get you a drink? I don
tknow youf
r
om ahol
ei
nt
he
wal
l
.
UG giggles and Target has her second jaw-dr
oppi
ngmoment
.

CJ
:
Hey, drive me to my car.
** This was funny because my car was
about 10 feet away. So I hop in and they drive me. **
Another appearance of babystepping!
We talked in the car for a good 15 minutes.
It
ol
dTar
geti
twoul
dn
twor
koutbet
weenus.I told her she reminded me
of an ex who was an exotic dancer. UG it turns out is a cocktail waitress at
BabyDol
l

si
nFort Worth and is supposed to get Target a job.
I tell her
Yeah,good idea, just become a cocktail waitress - because
dancing is VERY competitive. ** another subtle negative**
CJ
:
Myexpai
df
oral
mostever
yt
hi
ng.

Tar
get
:
You
r
esupposedt
ot
akecar
eofyourwoman.

CJ
:
Iknow.But, she just kept pampering me. Food, gifts, sex ... It was
awesome!

UG:
Thatguywant
edTar
gett
ohangoutandeatwi
t
hhim, butnotme.

CJ
:
Someguysar
eaf
r
ai
dt
hei
rf
r
i
endswon
tl
i
ket
hem.Youknow,ki
nda
l
acki
ngconf
i
denceorsomet
hi
ng.

Tar
get
:
Youhavepr
et
t
ybl
ueeyes.

CJ
:
Thanks
When you are in comfort stage the only answer to a compliment is
Thanks
.
I
t

st
heonl
yt
hi
ngat
r
ul
yconf
i
dentper
sonwoul
dsay.
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So, about15mi
nut
e
si
nsi
det
hecar
,Target says:
Let

sgohangoutwi
t
h
CJ

UG:

Ok
!

CJ
:

I
ha
v
et
obeupe
a
r
l
y
.

UG:

Wha
tt
i
me?

CJ
:

7a
m.
But
,
y
oug
uy
sc
a
nc
omeha
ngouti
fy
ouwa
nt
.
But
,
I

l
l
ha
v
et
o
k
i
c
ky
ououta
bout7
We roll to my place. By the time we get here it is about 3:15. Target opens
my car door and says,
Car
r
yme.
I carry her.
Wegeti
nsi
de,mypl
acei
saMESS.I
t

sembar
r
assi
ng.Tot
opi
tal
lof
fI
don
thaveanyt
oi
l
etpaper
.I

vebeenusi
ngpapert
owel
sf
ort
hel
ast2days,
because I keep forgetting to get TP.
I sit on my loveseat. When they come out of the bathroom Target sits in
the OTHER chair and UG sits next to me.
We get on the subject of hot tubs and where mine is at. On the way out
there Target tries to get me to carry her towel, her purse and other
miscellaneous shit. I laugh and hand her my shit to carry.

T
a
r
g
et
:
Y
ou
r
es
uc
hame
a
nma
n!
A minute laterT
a
r
g
e
t
:

Ca
r
r
yme
.

CJ
:

Wha
t
?Y
ouha
v
et
opeea
g
a
i
n?HaHa

T
ar
ge
t
:

J
aaaaas
onin a spoiled brat kinda voice.
CJ
:

Wow,
y
ou
r
eex
-bf

smus
t

v
es
poi
l
edy
ou.
L
i
t
t
l
ebr
a
t
.

I picked her up, but instead of carrying her with her legs wrapped around I
throw her over my shoulder and carry her like a sack of potatoes. She
struggles to get upright but she is no match ... Ha!
This is cool. We get to the hot tub and they BOTH strip down to panties.
The UG had nice fake tits, but that face just gave me shivers. The Target had
nice little perky tits with erect nipples.
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So, there I am with four tits in the hot tub. A boner ensues.
Target is sly. She wants a compliment so here
show shet
r
i
est
o
accomplish it.
Tar
get
:
Whatdoyout
hi
nkofUG
st
i
t
s?
CJ
:
Theyl
ookni
ce.

Shewashopi
ngwe
dgetont
hesubj
ectofHER t
i
t
saswel
l
.But
,I started a
new thread. Sly girl.
UG goes to lay down in sun tanning chair. I pull Target and make out.
I finally full monty her in my bed at about 5:30am. At 6:15 my dad calls to
make sure I am awake for my meeting. At 6:45 he tells me he is on his way. I
am cursing myself for agreeing to a 9am Thursday meeting, when I KNEW
thatI

dbegoi
ngoutWednesdayni
ght
.
At 7 am I screw hottie again and at 7:30 I kick hottie and UG out of
apartment. Hottie is mad at me.
She wants to sleep there until I get back.
I closed the biz deal and got to bed about 1:30 Thursday afternoon. Paid
for my lifestyle choices Thursday night and Friday morning, totally worn out.

LR: CAPTAIN JACK AND SINN DO DALLAS


(aka CJ Battles Satan and Lives)
November 18th, 2006
In Austin, Texas I looked upon the face of Satan and lived.
Deep, deep in the bowels of hell, Satan decided he wanted a night out on
the town. For this excursion to the physical plane, he clothed himself in the
female form with long, hot legs, a pert ass, near perfect tits and a face full of
acne cleverly concealed with several bottles of foundation.

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Right about 3:00 am, I was waiting for Sinn in the hotel room because I
had a hot Lebanese and hot Latina lined up ready to come and have wild
ethnic sex with us.
I opened the set earlier in front of two students so they could see lock-in
and what attraction looks like from the outside. Sinn came in and winged with
me for awhile and they wanted us to Bounce with them to eat and then come
to our hotel.
But, he showed up with Satan and her friend who had eye-catching extra
l
ar
geboobi
es(
Si
nn
sAchi
l
l
esHeel
)
.Bei
ngt
hegoodWi
ngI am I began
befriending Satan.
Let the battle begin. I tried befriending. I switched to dismissiveness ...
and went to all out negative warfare.
Back and forth we tugged ever so subtly with our language. I tried to make
i
tl
ookt
oSi
nn
sTar
getl
i
keI was ok with her friend spewing venom so Sinn
could continue.
Sinn and his Target left for a while. After a machine gun barrage of
negatives, disqualifiers and DHVs, I got Satan out of her chair and did the
Trust Test - plus a few spins.
Then, I set her next to the bed, on me, with my arm around her. The air
around us began to buzz with the sexual tension, which usually precedes a
serious bout of tongue-down. Satan was about to crack.
No sooner had the air electrified than there was a knock on the door. She
got up to answer the knock and then went back to her chair. State broken.
Si
nn
sTar
gethadbookedSat
anar
oom i
nourhot
el
.
Being the gentleman PUA I am (to give Sinn a chance to escalate and
close) I offered to escort Satan to her room.
As soon as we were outside the room she said,
J
ustt
ol
etyouknow my
daddy was fraternity brothers with the District Attorney of Austin so if you try
anyt
hi
ng
CJ
:
Whatt
hehel
lar
eyout
al
ki
ngabout
?That

swei
r
d.

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Here CJ handles a typical test while pulling: The safety issue. Whenever girls
(
t
ar
get
sorobst
acl
es)sayanyt
hi
ngaboutsaf
et
yj
usti
gnor
ei
tandactl
i
kei
t

s
ridiculous. Under no circumstances should you have a logical discussion or
t
r
yi
ngt
oconvi
ncet
hegi
r
l
st
hatyouar
esaf
e.That

st
heki
ssofdeat
h.I
nst
ead
dismiss it just like CJ does above.

In her hotel room I continued working on her. I wanted to close just so I


could say I nailed Satan in human form.
Again, I had worked my way into her bed. I opened each new thread with a
negative or disqualifier. She took her bra off and threw it on the floor. I
grabbed her ponytail and said,
I
st
hatanew f
r
agr
ancecal
l
ed
BarSmoke?
She said,
Oh! Myhai
rnor
mal
l
ysmel
l
spr
et
t
yt
hi
ssucks!
I started
smelling up her neck and pulled her ponytail. She arched her back and shoved
her ass into my crotch.
Then, again with superb timing, Sinn and BoobieGirl show up. Satan goes
through the roof and her bitch shield goes back up. Another battle ensues.
While I was locked in a supernatural battle with Satan, Sinn sucked on
some way-above-average titties in the other bed.
I began each new conversational thread with a sniper negative aimed right
at Sat
an
sego.This bought me the next few sentences. Back and forth we
battled and I knew at that point just how Charlie Daniels felt while he battled
for the fiddle made of gold.
Char
l
i
edi
dn
twantt
hegol
df
i
ddl
e.I
twasn
taboutt
hegol
df
i
ddl
eatall. It
was about beating Satan.
Now,I

m gonnagooutonal
i
mbher
eandt
el
lyoui
ft
hati
fyourWi
ngi
s
NOT down with battling Satan, so you can suck on some huge titties, you
might wanna find a new Wing.
In short, I di
dn
tcl
ose.I fell asleep, but not before making the sign of the
cross, chanting Buddha five times and praying to Krishna for protection. But, it
was fun in a demented sort of way.
Now, fast forward to Monday, November 20th, 2006 when Sinn and I roll
up to Big D with a combination of Eminem and Jerry Jeff Walker blaring.
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Wehi
tanew Mondayni
ghtvenuet
hatI

vehadapr
et
t
ygoodamountof
success at and Sinn opens a cute 2 set to start a Jealousy Thread with one of
his earlier Targets.
At this point it was clear to see why Sinn is considered one of the best
ever. He had no less than 4 girls in this somewhat tiny venue attracted to him.
Ourwai
t
r
esspr
obabl
ywoul
d
vequi
tont
hespotf
orachancet
ohavesex
with him.
I began working the obstacle, which was easy because she knew her friend
was already attracted. I merely tried to stay one step behind in the process so
we could keep a nice pace. This is important when you are winging. You want
to be in roughly the same spot give or take a step.
This is a key poi
ntwi
t
hwi
ngi
ng.Whoever

s set it is, leads the interaction.


Here I was leading the moves in the venue, but CJ was leading the pull
because I was crashing at his place.
I ran all the normal stuff. Trust Test; Dye my soul patch blonde;
Strawberry fields:
Her
e
sCJ

sver
si
onofSt
r
awber
r
yFi
el
dsf
r
om anot
herLayRepor
t
.

CJ: You're walking along and you come across a strawberry field. How
high is the fence?
HB: 5 feet
CJ: "Hmm...."looking quizzical at her
HB: What? What?
CJ: "Ok, you get inside. How many strawberries do you eat?"
HB: (
S
hel
ook
sl
i
k
es
hei
st
hi
nk
i
ng
).
.
.

F
i
v
e
CJ: "Five, wow! Oh my god! I could never take you home to mommy!"
HB: "What! WHAT?" -- Touching my arm and pulling on me.
CJ: "Ok, last question. What about the farmer?"
HB: "Did he see me?"

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CJ: (Shakes head with astonished look).


.
.

Wow!"
CJ: "Ok, here's what it means. The fence means you have high goals
and high aspirations. The strawberries stand for your sexual
appetite"
CJ: (I shake my head again) "You're sooooo baaaaad! Most people say
one or two! You want 5 ... Wow!" She flips out and starts giggling and
squealing. She bends over and tells her friend what I said and they look
at me and smile and giggle.
CJ: "The farmer means you don't care about the sexual situation, as
long as no one finds out."
She squeals again and tells her friends who look over at me smiling
again. She puts her hand on my chest and says, "No, I don't want to
hurt anyone's feelings..."

LR - LOOKS ARE NOT ENOUGH:A3 ROUTINE


You are a very pretty girl, but beauty is very common. What really matters
i
sagr
eatener
gy,out
l
ookandper
sonal
i
t
y.Youseem l
i
keyou
vegott
wooutof
t
het
hr
ee,t
hat

sagoodst
ar
t
.Whatwoul
dmakemewantt
ogett
oknow you
better?
Light Bill Story:
When I was a kid, after my parents were divorced, I overheard my mom
talking on the phone to one of her friends. She was worried about how she
was going to pay the light bill.
So the next day after school I got my red wagon from the backyard and
dumped a bunch of toys in it. I started at one end of the street and sold the
toys to the neighborhood kids. I gave my mom $18 and told her it was for the
light bill. She started crying.
General get to know you comfort stuff.

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Wepul
l
edbackt
ot
hei
nf
amousPi
r
at
ePad.I put on a DVD. I was on the
couch with my girl. Sinn and his Target laid on the floor snuggling.
Ibeganescal
at
i
ngont
hecouch.Shekeptsayi
ng,
Idon
twantt
ot
ease
you.
SoI

df
r
eezeout
,wai
tami
nut
eort
woandst
ar
tmaki
ngoutagai
n.We
did this about three times and then I pulled her into the bathroom and started
administering my new anti-LMR tactic: Hardcore ass spanking.
I closed the deal on my bathroom floor and then in my bedroom. That was
numero four for Nov. By Tuesday we were so worn out that we just hit a few
Big D venues and ran some sets.
Wednesday morning I took him to the airport so he could jet on up to
Toronto.
~ Captain Jack ~

LR-SUNBURST 2007-JAN-7: CAPTAIN JACK


Thi
swi
l
lbear
at
hershor
tr
epor
tbecausesi
nceI

vebeen using MicroCalibration my sarges are getting really smooth. I do the minimum attraction
to get to Qualification and then go into deep, emotional comfort asap.

MY ORIGINAL POST ON MICROCALIBRATION:


Micro calibration
First I want to start by explaining that this is an advanced technique. This
is not something that a beginner should be using. I don't generally even teach
this on Boot camps unless it's something that I think they will benefit from. It
generally requires a good deal of social savvy to get it right.
This article will assume basic knowledge of the following:
In any human interaction, there are only four means of communication that
take place.
IOIs -- Indicators of interest
IODs -- Indicators of disinterest
DHVs -- Demos of high value
DLVs -- Demos of low value

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Add in Compliance Tests (CTs) and a base line of punishment reward and
you have social interaction in a formula.
This came about because last year I was finding that with some girls I had
to negative a million times to get any IOIs while with others they would ask
me for my name
Right after I opened, or after they tell me I

m hot. If I continued DHVing


they would get all weirded out. However, if I started qualifying them, it often
didn't take. So I started putting an IOI in before my qualification and my
attempt got better.
For example: The Wrong Way!

Girl: You're cute! Where are you from?


Sinn: Buy me a drink before you hit on me!
IOD: What do you have going for you besides your looks?
<Compliance Test>
Now ... The Right Way!
Girl: You're cute! Where are you from?
Sinn: Buy me a drink before you hit on me!
IOD: You are very pretty IOI, but beauty is common what do you have
going for you besides your looks? <Compliance Test>
The balancing of IOIs and IOD is a key element missing from the overall
explanation of MM. I think of it as a seesaw:
If I throw too may IODs that weighs down one side of the seesaw, and I'm
an asshole. If I throw too many IOIs then I weigh down the other side it
makes me an AFC ... But, if I adjust every IOD with a potential IOI and every
IOI with a potential IOD I attain balance and my sets work like magic.
Micro calibrating is simply throwing the balancing part of the equation (IOI
or IOD) when needed

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Now at boot camps we teach you how to open (which is a very small
compliance test), FTC (a DHV), and Negative in every set. We also teach you
how to stack forward
And start DHVing and negging in A2, then we start A3 where we use
compliance tests to make her DHV so that we can give her deserved IOIs.
The reason we teach this is that it is the way that most sets go. And the
MAJORITY of sets will not be attracted right away.
However sometimes you will get sets that will be attracted to you as soon
as you open your mouth ... or before.
If a girl approaches you and says she likes your cowboy hat, and you
respond with Jealous Girlfriend, you are going backwards in the interaction.
She is telling you she is already attracted to you. Therefore, you can
respond by saying, "Thanks, what's your name?"
That would be an IOI in return for hers. We can say then based on how
r
eadi
l
ysheanswer
s.I
fshe
shesitant or doesn't immediately ask for my name,
ori
fshedoesn
tt
r
yt
okeep the conversation going (IODS).
I will then respond with my own IOD. Say:
Buy me a drink before you hit
on me". Then immediately follow up with a compliance test " and your special
because?"
When she answers this, I am now in A3 and can start giving her IOIs.
In this way I have now gotten through attraction in 30-seconds.
However if she refuses to answer or she IODs me when I ask her why she's
special, I still have an out.
When she says, " I'm not special" or " Why are you special?"
Isay,
Never mind I was just being polite (IOD) ... Oh you have a u
shapedsmi
l
e.
.
.(
DHV)

See how there are contingencies of what to say based on what her
reactions are?
Well when you are routine stacking it would look something like this:
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Her: "I like your cowboy hat"


You: "Thanks. I actually need an opinion from a female who lies more"
Her: "Opinion?"
You FTC finish opener, stock negative, First routine, next routine, until you get
enough IOIs that you start qualifying and it takes.
By not pausing and looking at reactions, you are assuming that what you
are doing is working - which it may not be.
By being able to read IOIs we can move into A3 faster and ultimately into
comfort faster and beyond.
Also, by knowing that we are getting an IOD or an IOI we can calibrate any
routine mid stream to either IOI or IOD.
Take for example the "May I touch your eyes" line.
Sinn: "You have beautiful eyes" IOI
Girl: while rolling her eyes and thinking another loser "Thanks" IOD
Sinn: May I touch them? IOD
I change the routine based on the reaction she gives me.
However if the same interaction takes place but goes like this:
Sinn: You have beautiful eyes. IOI
Girl: "Thank you so much no one ever says that to me." IOI
Now I have a sincere response so there is no need for me to throw the
second part of the routine.
We want to be able to compliment girls and give them IOIs, however most
girls will not yet be comfortable with that until later.
Micro calibrating is simply the act of watching responses and then tailoring
the next action toward the response we just got
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A simplified version would state that we respond to IOIs with IOIs, IODs
with IODs and we constantly test for compliance.
Through micro calibrating based on reactions while following the M3 model
we can greatly increase our ability to get results.
Micro calibrating also has a place in Kino escalation.
If I make out with a girl on day 1 and then see her again the next day I will
want to test to see where her willingness to kiss me again is, so I micro
calibrate.
I move in as I hug her and I pause. I now watch to see if she looks nervous
or uncomfortable. If she doesn't I go for it. If she looks uncomfortable then I
push her off
And increase personal space so that the next time I get close she's more
comfortable and I can go for it.
Same thing once we are holding hands I will slide my finger tips away from
hers to see if she follows them. Is she does I will pull her closer to me, if she
doesn't, I throw her hand off.
A key to micro calibrating is remembering that IODs are not always
negatives. It would be weird if when a girl refused to qualify herself I told her
she was a little shit.
Instead they are simply ways of showing that we are not interested. There
can be removal of Kino, backs turns, pauses in the conversation, eye rolls, as
well as negatives and disqualifiers.
A few other keys to micro calibrating by watching the reactions you're
causing you can either soften or harden a routine EX:
Sinn:
You and I are never going to get along"(IOD)
Gi
r
l
:
Why not I think we'd get along fine (IOI)
Sinn: We're too similar (IOI) ... But I think our differences will be
complimentary IOI.

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Sinn:
You and I are never going to get along"(IOD)
Girl:
You're right we wouldn't
Sinn:
Yeah we would fight all the time, and I'd always win(IOD)
If a target at any time gives me an IOD I will respond in kind.
This is the punishment part of our punishment reward sub routine
However if we are already in comfort the punishment will no longer be
negatives, instead it will be take away
sand freeze outs.
If at any time she gives me an IOI even if it's as passive as holding my
drink, I will reward her until she becomes uncomfortable and gives an IOD
then we respond
With another IOD, wait for an IOI and if it doesn't come we compliance test
to actively look for IOIs.
We can also do this by balancing the amount of value we demonstrate onto
a set. Not every set needs to hear a million routines before they will be willing
to talk to you.
If have run more than 2 routines in a set and you are not attempting to
move on to qualification (A3) you are hurting your game.
You want to make sure that you are constantly testing to see where you
are... and then try to advance at the same time.
Micro calibrating makes it easy by throwing little adjusters depending on
the responses you are getting.
It's not at all reactive to apologize when you over-neg. You will lose a lot
more sets by continuing to negative once you've offended then by apologizing
and qualifying her for standing up for herself.
Micro calibration is the art of adjusting what you're saying in real time to
the reactions you are getting.
Sinn, Future and I were out having a blast after a bootcamp in Scottsdale.
Sinn and Future had already run a few good sets.
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My first set, three guys and one girl, kind of floundered, because my brain
j
ustwoul
dn
tst
ackf
or
war
d.Shewasi
nt
er
est
edwhenI spoke, but standing
there saying nothing is a DLV and they all quickly lost interest. Next set was
the same story.
I opened a 40+ year old hoping that if I could get my mouth moving I
could carry it into the future sets. It worked and she became intensely
attracted to me.
The next set I can
tr
ememberi
fI opened or Sinn did, I think Sinn did. It
was a group of three Latinas.
Sinn went for the biggest boobed one (surprise). I took an obstacle. She
had a goofy hat on which I made fun of constantly.
She gave me some weak attempt at a shit test but I can
tr
ememberi
t
because before I got a chance to knock that ball out of the park the 40+ year
old came and grabbed my arm and tried to pull me away. (The gods smiling
on me, perhaps?)
MyTar
get
,HBSunbur
st
,sai
d,
Wow!Doyouknow her
?
CJ
:
No.Thi
shappensal
lt
het
i
me.Gi
r
l
sj
ustt
r
eat
i
ngmel
i
keapi
ece of
meat
.

HBSunbur
st
:
Icanseewhy,butI woul
dn
tt
r
eatyouONLYl
i
keapi
eceof
meat
.

I take that as a cue to go into qualification.


One of her friends pulls her away for a minute. She finds me again later
and we go into comfort.
Whenshet
el
l
smeshe
sawr
i
t
erI ask her who her favorite authors
ar
eThen,I t
el
lheri
t

sunusualt
omeetagi
r
lwhocanr
eadi
napl
acel
i
ke
this...and she should get away from me now.
The fact that she was a writer and they had similar favorite authors was a
bi
gpar
toft
hi
sset
.Don
tunder
est
i
mat
et
hei
mpor
t
anceofcommonal
i
t
i
es.
We sink deeper into comfort and I give her the light bill story.

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I
t

st
i
met
ol
eaveandshesaysshehast
ogot
ot
hebat
hr
oom andt
owai
t
for her.
Is that a shit test? No!
We were in the middle of a great conversation. She has to pee. She wants
to keep talking.
When she comes out, we talk a bit more until closing time. I start
demonstrating ambition by telling her my future plans; the condo overlooking
the ocean, the big boat, the lifestyle, the accomplishments.
Thi
si
sn
tbr
aggi
ng,sher
eal
i
zesf
r
om t
heLi
ghtBi
l
lst
or
yt
hatI

m adr
i
ven
per
son.Seei
ngmymot
her

sf
i
nanci
alpai
nasayoungboydr
i
vesmef
or
war
d
as a man. My desire to create a supreme life for my daughters drives me when
mostmenwoul
d
vet
hr
owni
nt
het
owelandsunki
nt
omedi
ocr
i
t
y.
Ambition and accomplishment are identical in terms of attraction. If you
have a condo overlooking the ocean, a big boat etc. Or you can demonstrate
the ambition and drive to get them. You will get the same amount of
attraction. Women are attracted to material objects because of what they
say about the person who has them.
She
si
mmensel
yat
t
r
act
edt
omebecauseI

m at
t
r
act
edt
omygoal
sand
plans.
We all pil
ei
nt
ohercousi
n
sMer
cedes(
a tight fit ). I start playing with her
t
el
l
i
nghershesmel
l
sl
i
keVani
l
l
awhi
l
eshe
ssi
t
t
i
ngonmyl
ap.
Sinn is giving the driver a massage. Future is holding hands with the Hottie
i
nt
hepassenger

sseat
.
They drop us at the hotel and a few minutes later HBSunburst comes back
up, knocks on the door and gets my number. I am leaving a message for a girl
one # closed on Friday night at this point.
Wegeti
nt
ot
hehal
l
wayandshesays,
Whowast
hat
?
CJ
:
A gi
r
lI metFr
i
day.

HBSunbur
st
:
OhIcamebackt
ogetyournumber
,shoul
dI evenbot
her
?

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CJ
:
yes,def
i
ni
t
el
y.

Igi
vehermynumberandt
hensay,
I

l
lwal
kyoudownandhi
tt
he
elevator button. As soon as we get in I shove her against the wall and make
out with her. I unsnap her bra in about 1.5 seconds flat.
Shesays,
OMG!St
op!We
r
ei
nanel
evat
or
!

I laugh and give her a long sensuous kiss. Open the elevator door and say,

Cal
lme.

About an hour later she calls and asks me to come over. I worked through
about an hour of LMR, but I could tell it was going to happen because there
was a legitimate time constraint. I would be leaving at four the next day.
Much to my delight she had a tattoo of a sunburst on her right ass cheek.
To learn more about Captain Jack and read more of his LRs check out
www.captainjack.blogspot.com

LR -PROMOTOR GIRL- DIFFICULT PULL: BRAD P


This was a really tough pull. I thought I was going to lose her a few times.
This girl is a club promoter and total party girl here in NYC. She promotes for
a very trendy club.
Let me start with a little background on this girl. I have met her one time
before, and she is tough as nails, one of the hardest testers I've ever come
across. For anyone who has my book, "Instant Attraction" I describe a
scenario in there where I used the horse girl opener, and the girl threatened
to knock my teeth out immediately. This is that SAME GIRL! I haven't seen her
in 6 months.
The approach from 6 months ago:
BRAD P.: (horse girl line)
GIRL: "What the hell do you mean about me liking horses?? Do you like your
teeth where they are? Cause if you don't get the hell away from me right now
I'm going to knock your teeth right out of your head!"

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BRAD P.: "Listen, I'm just being social and having fun. You DO look like
someone I used to know. Anyway, I can tell a lot about you from the way your
conducting yourself right now. I bet you act like this all the time, and when
you do, a lot of people think you're a real bitch. But I can tell that you're not. I
think that deep down. You're as sensitive as a little girl. Sure, a lot of people
may think you're stuck up, but you don't have to act like that towards me. You
probably just act like that because you get dorks hitting on you all day."
The girl was 100% attracted to me after I showed her I had enough balls
to stand up to her. 20 minutes later I was making out with her and her friend.
Her friend was hot too.
It was basically just a matter of getting past the roaring tests. OK fast
forward 6 months to yesterday. Here's where my head is at. I came back from
Cliff's List in Montreal and a few days in Seattle with one of my girls, I was
pretty burnt out from being on no sleep that whole weekend.
I didn't even get to game in Montreal; it was all just talking to students,
meeting the other teachers and being totally desperate for sleep. Then 10
hours on a greyhound bus home. I've lost a few of my best fuck buddies
recently due to various factors. Mostly me just not being willing to deal with
their BS.
So the rotation is down to three in NY, which is very light for me. Usually
I'm between five and ten. The three that are left are beautiful girls, but one is
a virgin and the other two are the types you have to go easy on in the sack.
So I was basically looking for a girl so I could just pound the shit out of her
pussy, throw her around, pull her hair, spank her, etc.
Wednesday night I ended up going and staying with the virgin chick,
getting a great blow job and some great titty fucking. But I still needed to just
dick-slam some chick. You know that feeling?
So I'm skateboarding back from the subway on my way back from the
virgin girl's place and I notice a lot of girls are giving me the eye.
The first one was pushing a stroller, but she was hot. I skated past. Next
one was walking and staring at me ... another Hottie!
I wasn't really in that gaming mood, so I skated by. Next one was on a
bike and she waved. Ok that does it! I'm going after her.
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She was like a 7... a light skinned Indian girl. I wasn't that into her, but
figured maybe I'd give her a chance.
I turned around and skated back the way she was going. She had stopped
and was going into her apartment. I figured I'd go talk to her and try to get
into her place, and then take it from there.
So I said "hi." She said "hi." There were some old people there so I said
"Are you the super?" The guy said "Sometimes." I said "Are you the super
duper?" they all laughed. I vibed with the group a bit.
The girl said "You stay on that side of the fence." I said "Sure, you're afraid
of what might happen, aren't you." She said yeah. Now we have sexual
tension. I asked if she had something to drink upstairs. She said yes and
invited me up.
We did some simple rapport stuff. I did a palm reading in her bed, then I
upped the physical escalation a bit more and she got creeped out. So I left.
As far as I'm concerned, that girl had 20 minutes to fuck me or impress me
in some other way. As soon as she got creeped out by the physical stuff I left
ASAP.
Once a girl is creeped out there's no turning back. I was creeped out too,
by her lack of sexual rapport. I didn't take her number. I just said "Hey I gotta
go, see ya around." Not impressed.
I'm certainly not wasting a whole night taking this chick out and
enlightening her with my special brand of magical seduction. It was fun for 20
minutes and she works for a health food company, so I got some free protein
drinks out of the deal.
That was around 1pm. Around midnight I headed out to a club in
Manhattan. Saw a few students there. Small world. Saw my friends there. I
decided to go do a few approaches.
First group: 5 super hot babes from Boston.
These girls were all 9s and 10s. I opened one of them. Then I spoke to a
few other girls in the group. I had not decided on a definite target. I wanted to

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try all of them out. I danced with them. Some were good dancers. It was fun.
In the end I left that set because I didn't like the logistics. 5 girls is a lot.
They're from out of town. Not good. There's really not even a good reason
to take numbers since I hate the phone and I almost never do phone game
these days. This was a nice warm up set and a nice piece of social proof for
upcoming approaches.
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l
oorcanbeagr
eatwayt
obui
l
dsoci
alpr
oof
.Especi
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yi
fi
t

sa
club that has a less defined dance floor or a dance floor that can be easily
seen by the other clubbers.
There's a lot of peer group hanging around. There are 2 girls I've fucked
before in the club, including the fetish model chick, who I had to ditch over
some stupid shit a week ago.
A friend of mine says to me "Hey, come meet these girls. The red haired
one is mine, but you can take the brunette, I've already fucked her." Hehe
My friends are some sick fuckers, especially this dude. He wants to just
pass all the girls around. OK fine, He'll take the redhead, I'll take the other
one. He introduces us. I look at the redhead and we recognize each other.
I say "Did we make out?" She says YES!!!! It's that same girl who wanted
to knock my teeth out! She immediately pulls me away from the group and
starts touching me all over.
I'm like "yeah yeah cool." But I'm trying not to steal this girl from my
friend.
After a few minutes I tell him, "Dude get this girl off of me, she's trying to
make a move on me, and she's yours not mine."
My wing says OK, but he tells me a few minutes later that if I want to take
the redhead that's fine. I tell him we'll see what happens. If it goes that way
we'll just both go with it. So, I'm not sure what I want to do, but the brunette
is into my wing and lukewarm on me.
The redhead is really into me, so I guess that's the way it's going. So I
start gaming the redhead chick. Turns out she's a club promoter. She's
working as I'm gaming her. It's hard to keep her focused. She's got to make
sure everyone has drinks and she's got to flirt with the guys she invited.
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My game in this case consists of hard physical escalation and some


caveman stuff. No routines. No attract material. Lots of test deflection. Let me
say this about NYC club game, these girls have a SUPER STRONG frame.
Most NYC girls do. This particular girl is throwing tests like you wouldn't
believe. Some of the tests were absolutely baffling, even to me. It's the
hardest testing I've ever encountered.
I decided I don't even want to get into much verbal sparring with her.
She's too quick.
A lot of people wonder how to game ADD club chicks. This is a good basic
strategy: Hard physical escalation and prompting and passing congruence
tests.
I'm steering stuff more towards sexual things. That's the way I'll make her
submit to me. I drag her off into the back and make out with her. I take my
dick out and she's touching it a little. She's asking about my wing, I tell her he
said it was OK.
I spank her in the club in front of everyone. I tell her that my friend and I
are going to double team her. She's pretty into that idea. This girl is kind of
drunk, now I have her horny. She's wrapped up about possibly getting it on
with me and my friend.
Br
ad
smat
er
i
ali
sgear
edt
owar
dsget
t
i
ngt
hegi
r
lat
t
r
act
ed,conf
usedand
horny, while escalating physically in unusual ways.
She tries to hook me up with some other friend of hers to make out. The
friend is hot, but totally stiff and a bit on the cock-block side.
I try to form a connection with her so she doesn't cock block me later. But
it's not working. These party girls just want everyone to make out with each
other, if you're in their secret club that is.
Now me, and my wing start talking about how we're going to try to pull
both girls into a four-some. They seem like they want to fuck, but it's too early
for the redhead chick to leave because she's technically still working. So we
wait.
I'm working my game when the two ex-fuck-buddies roll up on me. That
was funny. Not a problem at all. I hugged one of them and had a nice
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conversation. The other I avoided


cause she did some fucked up shit a few
weeks ago.
In the end it's all social proof. During the waiting period, a bunch of girls
kept rolling up on me, dancing with me, talking to me. Some I knew, some I
didn't. It was great social proof and I think it saved the day,
cause the
redhead chick was all over the place.
Me, and the redhead chick decide it's time to go, she wants to take all four
of us into her car and leave. She's drunk and wants me to drive. All good! I go
to my wing and the girls go to the bathroom.
My wing wants to fly solo with the brunette; he's got logistical issues so the
foursome is off. No problem.
The girls finally get back and I know now t
hat

swhen the REAL game will


begin.
I have to figure out how to get this flaky, non-stop testing promoter girl
out of the club without being cock -blocked, or screwed up in some other way.
She already said she's ready to go home with me, but it took about 45
minutes to get her out of there and I thought I was going to lose the lay a few
times.
She made another long trip to the bathroom with the brunette. She made a
third long trip to the bathroom with the cock-block chick. The cock-block chick
wouldn't let us leave, asked us to hang out longer. She made a trip into the
back to do coke with some fat guy. I went with them.
I was on the brink of looking seeming needy, the way I was hovering over
her, but it was crucial in this case.
Now she tells me "What if you didn't run into me tonight? What would you
have done?"
I said "Well you know; there's a lot of other girls here." She says "Yeah I
can't deal with your fan club, I think I'm going to drive myself home," and she
walks away.
It sounded pretty serious and I was little thrown off, but I decided to treat
it like just another test.
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I waited a few minutes, she came back and we started walking out of the
place.
Now ANOTHER FRIGGIN GUY she knows stops us. He's like "Hey!" He just
got in and she had invited him. This is how this club promo thing works. This
chick collects orbiters, then she invites them all to the club, then the club pays
her depending on how many of them show up.
She is a professional flirt and orbiter collector. So she had to stop and hang
with him. I jumped right in and started to dominate their interaction. The
redhead chick walks off to the bathroom with the cock block again.
This is so annoying to have to go through this process, but I've pulled so
many same day lays, I know it is par for the course. This is, however, the
worst case I've run into.... fucking horrible!
I stay and talk with the guy while she's in the bathroom because I don't
want to look like a loser standing there alone when she gets back. She comes
back and we leave, finally.
This is a great example of persistence. Persistence is one of the key
differences between the guys that leave with women and the guys who go
home alone.
Youhavet
obesur
et
hatyoukeepyoursoci
alval
uehi
ghanddon
tl
ook
pushy or needy, but in many SNL situations you will need to deal with all sorts
of problems. Most guys would have given up and ended the night happy with
a make-out.
Let

sl
ookatwhatBr
ad has had to deal with. His friend who introduced
them wants this girl. He has to get his friend to give him permission to game
her. She
swor
ki
ngasapr
omot
er, soshe
sr
unni
ngar
oundt
hecl
ubashe
s
trying to game her. She
sdoi
ngnon-stop testing, takes several trips to the
bathroom with various people, cock-block chicks and orbiters. So remember
that the next time you think there are too many obstacles to your pull.
We're driving back to my place. I'm not talking too much. She's telling a
few funny stories. She tells me she's not going to sleep with me. I tell her "I
was just about to tell you the same thing." She says she's not easy, blah,
blah, blah. I cut off the thread, because I don't want her thinking along those
lines, thinking she has to prove her value by being a cock tease.
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We get back to my place and I can't get her into bed. She's changing
clothes, she's rearranging her shit. People are calling her for after hour
parties. She's texting people. What a mess. So high maintenance! Then she's
talking more about how she's not going to sleep with me. Finally she settles
down and I'm thinking, "Damn I hope this chick is good in the sack."
Turns out she's really good. She gives me some great head. I can tell she's
trying to prove herself and that's what I like to see. I finger her for a back,
deep-spot orgasm. I put on a condom and she says "What, do you think I
changed my mind?" I totally ignore that and put my dick against her pussy.
She grabs it and slides it inside.
How's that for handling last minute resistance? It was token resistance. I
love token resistance. It makes the sex even hotter. It's almost weird when
the girl just hands over the pussy without resistance. We started fucking and
she was a CRAZY FUCK! I pounded the shit out of this girl! Damn I needed
that. She came twice. I came. It was all worth it.
Damn that was a bumpy road. Now, remember it's all about staying out of
the orbiter zone. She's already inviting me to her parties and clubs. I'm
playing that hard to get. I may try to just get her to come over after that stuff
booty call style.
She must not start viewing me as a potential dollar sign. It's also worth
noting that this girl mostly responds to hard game, not soft game. That is true
of most NYC club girls.
My wing has insane hard game he uses on girls. He starts making out with
girls and then tells them seriously "Get the hell away from me, don't ever talk
to me again." I don't even get what he's doing with that one, but you get the
idea.
This redhead girl is already sending texts about how I'm so cocky etc. So I
think I'm safely outsi
det
heor
bi
t
erzone.She
ski
ndof a pain, I'm not sure if
I'm going to bother getting her into rotation. If I have to go through that
process all over, I think I'm going to smack someone. Wow, what a great fuck
though. I'm so torn!
*Br
adPt
oLear
nmor
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ad
sappr
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oSameNi
ghtLayscheckout
his audio seminars at www.Bradppresents.com

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BUILD ATTRACTION BREAK RAPPORT-AFC ADAM


LYONS:
Working as a club promoter can put you in some pretty interesting
situations - l
i
kebei
ngatat
abl
ei
nacl
ub,al
onewi
t
ht
engi
r
l
s!I
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sa hard life,
i
sn
ti
t
?
My friend John arrives with two girls - he tells me the brunette is his target,
soshe
soutoft
hepi
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ur
e.I

mf
l
i
r
t
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ngwi
t
ht
hewhol
egr
oup,bei
ngt
hel
i
f
eand
soul of the party, playing around and flirting with the girls. Not only is this a
lot of fun, but it makes me the center of attention in the group - an attractive
place to be.
I

vespental
otoft
i
mer
ecent
l
ywor
ki
ngonmy
l
ookt
oo- so not only am I
t
hecent
erofat
t
ent
i
on,butI

ml
ooki
nggr
eat- it all adds up, andI

m get
t
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ot
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cat
or
sofi
nt
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om t
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ound.Makessense,doesn
ti
t
?
Toni
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hough,I

m notj
ustoutt
opar
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y.I

m outt
opi
ckup,soi
t

st
i
met
o
choose a target.
Ther
e
sabeaut
i
f
ulbr
unet
t
e,butI find out she has to leave early (keep
your eye on logistics!), so I take her number so I can follow it up later.
The one I l
i
kemosti
sJ
ohn
sgi
r
l- butshe
sst
r
i
ct
l
yof
fl
i
mi
t
s.Ther
e
sa
blonde chick who isal
loverme,butshe
st
ooi
nt
er
est
ed,andt
oodr
unk- both
are a turn-off; I l
oveachase
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i
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st
,J
ohn
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r
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ft
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hert
abl
e,wher
et
her
e
saguy
she likes. J
ohn
smor
ei
nt
er
est
edi
nanot
hergi
r
lonourt
abl
e,soI ask his
permission, and he says ok.
I
t

sgoi
ngt
obeat
r
i
ckysi
t
uat
i
on,butI

m not a dating coach for nothing, so


I wanderoverandsay
Hey,whatyouupt
o?
She tells me she likes this guy, and so I say
Tot
al
l
y,he
shotandyou
should fuck him tonight - my friend Katie picked him up in like 10 minutes last
Sat
ur
day.
Shel
ooksat me a bit shocked, and I say
Hey,you
r
eabi
ggi
r
l
,
youunder
st
andr
i
ght
?
,andt
hedamagei
sdone- she
sl
osti
nt
er
esti
nt
he
guy. I made him too available to her, and people like a bit of a challenge.

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The past couple of paragraphs are a brief over


vi
ew ofwhatAdam
s
method. First he establishes social proof. Then he makes any other attractive
male seem too available.
It
el
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lshow hersomet
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,andI move her over to the bar,
wher
et
her
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ank.Wechi
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orabit, and I think to
mysel
ft
hati
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st
i
met
ost
ar
tr
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i
ngi
ti
n.
Do I have comfort with her? That is, is she comfortable being around me
andchat
t
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ngt
ome?Yes.Soi
t

st
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met
obr
eakr
appor
t
.
Anot
hermai
npar
tofAdam
smet
hodi
sbr
eaki
ngr
appor
tt
obuild
attraction.
Adam:Youknow what
?I

m ki
ndof a blunt person. I find life easier that way.
Don
tyou?
Brunette: What do you mean?
AdamLondon: Well I can
tbebot
her
edt
odealwi
t
hot
herpeopl
e
scr
ap.Ther
e
are too many people that lie and talk rubbi
shandI

m notdownwi
t
ht
hat
.I
fI
like a girl I tell her that, and I tell her that she looks hot. I like her and may
wantt
ohaveaf
ew goodmeal
sandsomegr
eatsex,butt
hatdoesn
tmeana
relationship. Why would anyone want to do that? Get into a relationship with
someone they have only just met.
Brunette: I know what you mean.
This is what I call passive acceptance of the frame. Because, shedoesn
t
ar
gueoractcr
eepedoutbyAdam
ssexual
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zi
ngoft
hei
nt
er
act
i
on,t
hef
r
ame
has been set to have sex without relationships. Simply by having this
conversation the girl has passively given Adam permission to escalate.
Adam also does something I call prepping here. He gives the girl a clear
indication of what to expect if they continue to hang out. He
sal
r
eady
est
abl
i
shedt
hati
fhel
i
kesher
,he
sgoi
ngt
ot
el
lherandi
fi
twor
ksoutt
hey
can have some good meals and great sex.
If he hits on her later and she accepts it she knows further sexual
escalation is coming and she has already given her consent for him to escalate
by staying.

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Guysgetst
ucki
nsi
t
uat
i
onswi
t
hgi
r
l
swher
et
heywon
tmaket
hi
ngs
sexual
.They
r
escar
edt
hatt
hegi
r
lwi
l
lr
ej
ectt
hem,ort
hatt
hey
r
esomehow
being creepy or sleazy.
So they just try and be nice and friendl
ywi
t
ht
hegi
r
l andt
heyendup
j
ustbei
ngf
r
i
endswi
t
hagi
r
lwho
sonl
yeverni
cet
ot
hem!
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ngover
t
l
ysexual
,I

m br
eaki
ngt
hecomf
or
t
abl
ef
r
i
endvi
bet
hatwe
have.Now I

vebr
okenr
appor
t
,I want her to start working for me - to start
qualifying herself to me.

Adam: I ha
t
ec
r
a
ps
e
xt
oo.
Y
ou
r
enots
omeonewho
sba
da
ts
e
xa
r
e
you? [said with a friendly smile]
Brunette: No way!
Ada
mL
ondon:
Hr
m,
g
i
r
l
sa
l
wa
y
st
hi
nkt
hey

r
eg
oodi
nbe
d.
Wha
tma
k
e
s
you special?
Brunette: I give amazing blow jobs

Again the fact that she answers this question with something legitimate
showshercompl
i
ance.She
sact
i
vel
yseeki
nghi
sappr
ovalatt
hi
spoi
ntaswel
l
asget
t
i
ngsexual
.Thever
yactofaski
ngagi
r
li
fshe
sbadi
nbedal
so
assumes that they will be getting sexual later.
Excel
l
ent
!I

m aski
nghersexualquest
i
onst
hatpr
esumet
hatshehast
ot
el
l
mewhyshe
sgoodenoughf
orme.
Whatadi
f
f
er
encet
hati
sf
r
om how mostguysdoi
t
!I

m maki
ngherwor
k
for me at this point. Most guys are scared to try this - i
t

sal
eapoff
ai
t
h,af
t
er
all - butt
hent
hat

swhymost guys are going home alone.


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si
sgoi
ngwel
l
.Wehadcomf
or
t
,I

vebr
okeni
t
,andI

vegother
qual
i
f
yi
ngt
ome.Dower
ememberwhat

snext
?

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vegotaf
ew opt
i
ons.I can go backandsol
i
di
f
ywhatI

vegotsof
ar- chat
to her for a bit, build some more comfort, and then break it again. OR, I can
steam forward, and move in to sexual escalation:
Adam: You know when you really tease someone and trace a line up their
leg with your tongue in between their legs, while pinning them down and
rubbing their back? You know what I mean?Ther
e
ssomet
hi
ngsogr
eatabout
t
hewayt
hef
emal
ebodyr
eact
st
ohavi
ngi
t
ssensi
t
i
vepar
t
st
ouched
Now we know from experience that girls will start to relate things you say
t
ot
hem,eveni
fyou
r
enott
al
ki
ngaboutt
hem speci
f
i
cal
l
y.SoasI

m sayi
ng
t
heset
hi
ngs,i
t

sst
ar
t
i
ngt
ogetherhor
ny.
I

m onl
yabl
et
odot
hi
sbecauseI

vegonet
hr
ought
hest
agessof
ar- if you
wentupt
oagi
r
lyou
dnever met before and started saying these things,
you
dgetsl
apped!
Now I wantt
ocheckt
hatI

m notgoi
ngt
oof
asther
e,soI checkt
hatshe
s
comf
or
t
abl
ewi
t
hwher
ewe
r
eat- I lean right in and start speaking in to her
ear. This is an invasion of her personal space - i
fshe
snotcomf
or
t
abl
ewi
t
hi
t
,
she
l
lpul
lback,andI

l
lknow I need to take a step back. What do I whisper?

Adam: Especially when you really tease someone.


She
scomf
or
t
abl
ewi
t
hi
t
,soI kiss her neck, pull back, and look straight in
to her eyes. She giggles:

Br
unet
t
e
:
OhmyGod,
ha
ha
,
wow,
I

ms
ohor
ny
I lean back to let things calm down a little - I don
twantt
ogetbuyer

s
remorse. This turns out to have not been a great idea!
She says she needs the toilet, and I let her go. She comes back, and her
body language has changed.
This is a state break. Instead he should have tried to move her somewhere
secluded and escalated further or made an excuse to go back to his place. This
is a mistake even the best can make when things are escalating really fast.
Whi
l
eshe
sbeeni
nt
het
oi
l
et
,awayf
r
om me,she
scool
eddowna bit,
realizedt
hatshe
smeantt
obepl
ayi
nghar
dt
oget
,andt
hatshedoesn
twant
to look like a slut.
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m Adam,soI can handle this. <back to the framework, comfort again>

Ada
m:
Y
ou
r
ec
ut
e
,
y
ouk
nowt
ha
t
?
Brunette: Why?
Ada
m:
Y
ouha
v
eac
ut
el
i
t
t
l
ei
nnoc
entf
a
c
e.
I
t

spr
et
t
y
,
buti
t

shi
di
nga
s
mi
l
et
ha
ts
a
y
s
Wow,
Ir
ea
l
l
ys
houl
dn
tha
v
el
e
tmy
s
e
l
fg
ets
ot
ur
ned
on with someone I barely know in a club<Bang! Rapport break. Are
you seeing the pattern here?>
Brunette: [giggles] Ha ha ha!
Adam: I was thinking the same thing, I had the same feeling, but it felt
g
ooddi
dn
ti
t
?
Brunette: Mmmm, yeah!
Bysayi
ngt
hathef
el
tt
hesameway,he
spaci
ngherr
eality. This is vitally
i
mpor
t
antwi
t
hsameni
ghtl
aysbecauseyouneedt
oshow hert
hatyou
r
ea
little nervous sexually about how fast all this is going. By pacing and getting
her to agree with the current situation, he has put himself in a situation to
lead the interaction and escalate sexually again.
Now she
squal
i
f
yi
ngher
sel
fagai
n i
t

st
i
met
ogobackt
osexual
escalation. This stuff is easy! So I lean in, and brush her hair from her face
(another little personal space invasion) and say:

Adam: I
t

sj
us
tI c
a
n
thel
pi
t
.
I love teasing people and watching them
squirm. I t
hi
nky
ou
dl
ookg
oodr
ol
l
i
nga
r
ounda
r
c
hi
ngy
ourba
c
ka
sI
t
ea
s
ey
ou
Brunette:
Mmmm
Ada
m:

L
et

sg
os
omewhe
r
equi
et
er
.

Brunette:
Whe
r
e?

Ada
m:

Myf
l
a
t

.
Brunette:
I
don
tt
hi
nks
o,
I

mnotg
oi
ngt
os
l
eepwi
t
hy
ou!

Adam:
He
y
,
r
el
a
x
,
we
r
enotg
oi
ngt
oha
v
es
ex
.
I want to hang out with
you.
[
c
omf
or
t
]
.
T
henI

mg
oi
ngt
ot
ea
s
ey
oual
ot
[
br
e
a
k
i
ngr
a
ppor
t
]

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Do you think you could handle it? [qualifier] Again notice the pacing
and challenging, mixed with arousal. Then hard qualifiers.
Brunette:
Ofc
our
s
e
Adam:
T
henl
et

sg
etoutofhe
r
e.
[escalation]
I
t

ssi
mpl
e,i
sn
ti
t
!Shesendsherf
r
i
endhomei
nacab,andweheadt
o
mine. I build comfort on the way, play with breaking rapport, tell her she has
a cute ass, and we get into the flat, start kissing, walk into the bedroom.
Game over!
To learn more about Adam and his method check out
www.Attractionexplained.com

MOST GANGSTER PULL EVER!!!-SINN


So I finally after 6 weeks on the road, have some free time, and a new
LR...
It all started off when I dropped my car which had been sitting in my
garage for six weeks accumulating dirt and having someone write faggot wash
your car on my trunk in the dirt. Classy! So I finally get my car jumped and
drive it a harrowing 40 miles to the BMW dealership. Not really 40 but close.
This particular dealership happens to be in the same suburb of the city, as
a certain swashbuckling PUA who happens to be one of my closest friends.
Also a friend I hadn't seen in a few weeks.
A couple calls later we are back bullshiting and eating at the outback. Not
as good as usual today for some reason. I think it was the cheese fries being
undercooked.
We roll to the mall and then decide to hit a happy hour place. It was
awesome, but we end up back at my place and get a call from Shaft and El
Topo.
They have been working on some SICK new stuff regarding frames and
cognitive dissonance. Really brilliant stuff Shaft has come up with!
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We meet up for dinner, then roll to meet Twitchy at a new club opening.
We ran into Elation and Simple, but the club volume gets turned up to a
horrifyingly vibrating internal organs level. And so we roll to our usual SNL
venue.
And it sucks. Balls. Hard..It's loud (ER), the cover price has been upped,
and there is an awful ratio.
I get some drinks from my bart
enderandwat
choneoft
heci
t
y
sbest
players. He's a promoter at some venues out here and ALWAYS has some
crazy hot girls all over him.
He's a little too aggressive and sometimes blows himself out, but he always
leaves with three or four hot girls. He's kind of a dick, so my attempts to
befriend him have not gone swimmingly well...
Then I see her. She's got HUGE boobs, she's 5'4 she's got reddish blonde
hair. And she's a H-erd (A hot nerd, I think I stole that from Jlaix
somewhere...)
She's got these super hot secretary glasses on and a look that just screams
dork. She's a 9.5 to me. She hits my type of
funusualexactly. If you've ever
taken a bootcamp with me, you've heard me describe my type ... and she's
it...
I go to tap her and tell her she's a h-erd, when she opens two big black
guys. Oh well I'll see her again. Hopefully?
I roll around and find CJ. We're talking when she walks out and in midsentence I roll after her. I open her by telling her she's a h-erd and then
explaining it to her.
She thanks me and I say "Oh you didn't do it on purpose? You really are a
nerd!"
We start talking and I get the dreaded BF objection, plus he works at the
venue...I treat it like she just said "Spiders, Monkeys, Pirate Ninjas."
I keep talking and she brings it up again. Again I ignore and I talk about
how awesome I am. It's on she's telling me I'm awesome, grabbing my wrists
etc.
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The BF rolls up and I say "You have a really sweet GF."


He replies: "Thanks, she's my angel."
She has just offered me a drink, and he escorts me to get it... I actually for
a second thought I might be getting kicked out, as he walked me to the
service area. I get a drink and we talk about how cool his girl is.
We go back. He offers to get me a chair and leaves us to talk.
The key here was me remaining completely comfortable with the boyfriend
being there. If I had gotten nervous or acted like I was ashamed or
uncomfortable with what I was doing, he would have noticed and I would have
been in trouble. Instead I just acted as if it was normal and so did he.
I start qualifying and then tell her that she needs to walk away from me
right now or I will start hitting on her. She tells me I already have been. I
start breakthrough comfort. It's easy because this girl is really amazing. She's
smart and funny and honest and self-aware, and a complete decorated
emergency... (but a fun one!)
Thest
opdoi
ngt
hatorI

m goi
ngt
ost
ar
thi
t
t
i
ngonyoui
sanexampl
eofa
prep. I use stuff like that a lot, becausei
fsheaccept
st
hei
deat
hatI

m hi
t
t
i
ng
on her I can turn things sexual much faster.
Remember girls want to behi
tonbyguyst
heyar
eat
t
r
act
edt
o.Onceshe
s
shownshe
sat
t
r
act
edt
oyou,st
ar
t
shi
t
t
i
ngonher
!
She starts talking about how she cheated on her BF already. This is what
we call an IOI for those of us watching at home. This is her version of a prep,
she was trying to get the idea that I could have sex with her even though she
had a boyfriend out into the open.
She also later pointed out a guy and says that he was the guy she cheated
on her BF with. Whether or not that was true, she was trying to make me
comfortable.
I go into my sexual frames ... I hit them all and tie them into a
breakthrough comfort style explanation of why I like her and want us to be AT
LEAST friends.

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I regress, take her to childhood, using routine Shafts taught at dinner ...
Money BTW.
She asks me what I'm doing after this as her BF works till very late...(Yet
another IOI for those of us who have trouble with these things.)
I reply honestly and add that if she wants she can join me. She agrees.
I handle logistics with CJ and Twitchy and we roll out different exits meet
out front and depart.
I later made her beg to come... multiple times...
So I pulled a girl from in front of her boyfriend to my house in about two
and a half hours... While he was buying me drinks and food .... I'm going
straight to hell.
This was a great test for me a girl who was my absolute physical type and I
was able to get her.

WHAT HAPPENED IN NEW YORK?-SINN


So I got into NY on Wednesday night, but was exhausted as that happened
after my last post where the girl was snoring after I laid her.
We chilled out and got some sleep. Then we had to go start the seminar.
The group this weekend was a pretty good one, but we knew it was going to
be tough running a program at all the bars where the PUA
shang out.
But since the reason they hang out there is, because they can get in
without having girls...
So we didn't actually have in field Thurs night and Fader came over and we
hung and played video games while Future finished a paper for school...
Friday we had another day of seminar and ended up hitting the venue. I
did one set and made out with her, but she was from Long Island and left
around 12... I can't leave till 2 or so :( I actually got really sick in the middle
of the set and had to go across the street to CVS to get some anti nausea
medicine and Advil.

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The program went really well despite a lot of students getting called out for
being PUA
s... We head home and catch some sleep.
I've been having a really hard time getting enough sleep on the program.
In fact in NY I probably got 20 hours of sleep over 5 days.
The second night of program, the students did a whole lot better. And we
were about to leave when all of a sudden Approach Coach X comes up me and
tells me he thinks he can pull his 2 set and he told them he has a hot friend...
We get up there and the friend is talking to some chode, she won't come
over even after Approach Coach X told her to get her three times.
I'm annoyed and don't care that much about getting laid so I tell Approach
Coach X we should roll... we decide to get a shot first, and as we are Approach
Coach X's girl rolls back over and is all up on his shit...
So she finally pulls the other girl away whispers something in her ear, and
then I grab her hand and say we're leaving... Tabs get closed, and a cab is
hailed. All is going well when of course the first test of congruence appears...
Girl I fucked (GIF for future): "Where are we going?"

Sinn: "We're going to X neighborhood, you don't have to come if you


don't want to." I'm in the cab sitting down as she does this and she's
standing at the door.
It was key! Here I demonstrated that I was willing to walk away. If I came
over and was all into the girl simply because her friend was into Approach
Coach X, I would have looked desperate. Instead I have to look like I don
t
care about getting laid. Especially since the friend was already being kind of
tempestuous.
They get in and the girls proceeds to bust on me for saying like too much (I
do) then telling me we can be friends, etc.
Idi
dn
tcomei
nt
ot
hi
ssetwi
t
hanyval
uesoshewast
est
i
ngmel
i
kecr
azy.
I responded by agreeing and exaggerating everything. I was kind of annoyed
at this point and did not think I was going to get laid in any way shape or
f
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m

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We get back to Future's place and head inside. Future and his devil of a
dog are up and waiting for us, Future takes the dog for a walk and in his very
own thinks he's clever way to have a long conversation with the girl he's
stupidly falling in love with.
I decide to test my new physical escalation strategy of escalating touch
until she stops me. I call it I dare you to stop me method :)
I make out with her non-stop! I put my hand up her shirt, no stopping.
However I am in a small studio apt with Approach Coach X and his girl three
feet away on the futon of death and me on Future's bed.
This was a pretty funny scene as I was on one corner of the bed and
Approach Coach X was on the futon which was splayed open on the floor. I
was laying with myheadi
nt
hegi
r
l

sl
ap,reaching up her shirt to feel her up
before I decide we should go to the roof...
We get up there, check out the view and I continue to escalate. I'm feeling
her up when ACX moves his girl to the other side of the roof. I put my hand
down the girl
s pants, and she stops me from removing her pants. I keep
fingering her until she lets me pull the pants down, put her up on the ledge of
the roof and fuck her...
I actually got my hand down her pants. Then pulled mine down and she
was jerking me off until I tried to pull her pants down. Then, I just fingered
her a little more pulled down her pants and fucked her. She had an amazing
l
owerbackt
at
t
ooandt
hehot
t
estassI

veseeni
nper
son.
Then we get back down to the APT and the two girls are giggling to
themselves. Future asks me if I care and then tells them to get the fuck out
while berating them for being rude.
It was hysterical and I couldn't look at them for fear of laughing. APX was
doing the same thing across the way and tried to distract himself with a DVD,
but the title he pulled from the shelf was deep cheeks 7. (A classic but you
have to see deep cheeks 6 or you
l
lbel
i
kewher
edi
dt
hatGay Indian giant
come from?)
They leave and we laugh for awhile before catching some sleep before my
SNLs program.

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MORE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN NY:


I assisted Future on another Asian girl success. I opened and pumped her
BT leading to her blowing Future in the car the next day.
Fader had ten drinks and was totally coherent and sober... His drinking
abilities are disturbing.
I had five or six girls ask me if I was a PUA including the girl I fucked and
the girl APX pulled. A student who was 50 years old bought a pair of fuzzy
shoes. And, I met Dr FeelGood from the lounge. Cool guy.
I slept all of about 20 hrs in 5 days while nursing a cough that could kill a
horse.
I once again survived the futon of death including waking up on chewed up
pizza crust and having the stupid ass dog wake me up three times in the
middle of the night.
I watched a lot of football sun night on Future's 80 inch screen. And, I broke
my Mac laptop, by stepping on it.
That was one of the most random lays ever. It happened because I passed
her tests went sexual and escalated physically. The stealth escalation, became
an inside joke between us and after we had fucked before, we went to find her
friend, Shesai
d
Thi
sNEVER happened.
Andsmi
l
ed.

LR: KAREOKE TIL SUNRISE: SINN


Last night I went out with Shaft, CJ, and Twitchy. We hit the perplexing
venue. This is a venue where sometimes it's packed, others its dead. The girls
are all hot and have major attitudes. This was the scene of the 7 blowout night
CJ and I had a couple months back.
Last night it also had a very San Diego esquire 9 to 1 guy to girl ratio.
We got there a bit early and so we sat around chatting. I finally decide that
I'm going to get a cigarette. I then run a transition and get ignored by the
target. I talk to the obstacles a bit and then roll out.

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This girl who blew me off here ends up being the girl I lay. Just goes to
show t
hatyouneverknow what

sgoi
ngt
ohappenl
at
eri
nt
heni
ght
.Gi
r
l
st
hat
blow you off can have a change of heart. This girl literally ignored me while I
was trying to talk to her here and a few hours later begged me to fuck her.
I watch as this one guy grabs about three girls in a row creeps them out
and then turns to tell me that " She ain't shit, I make more money in a week
than she makes in a year..." I'm not a misogynist, so this line of conversation
is VERY dull to me. However much like the famous "Bill" from Chi I decide that
I can use this guy as my opener all night.

Bi
l
l
wasaguyFut
ur
eandmysel
fmetonaboot
campi
nChi
cago.Hewas
literally like girl repellent. We watched him crash and burn with his ZZ top
bear
dandcl
everpi
ckupl
i
ne
I

mf
r
om Canadaandwet
r
i
edt
ost
r
i
keupa
friendly bar conversation with him. And he was a dick to us, so all night Future
and I followed him around as he approach girl after girl and got rejected.
Thenwe
dswoopi
nandgamet
hegi
r
l
s.Occasionally he came back and got
annoyed to death or told to leave.I
twasaf
unni
ght
.Thel
essondon
tber
ude
to random guys at the bar because they might have game
So I roll up on this 2 set he had grabbed and tell them that watching them
get hit on was the high point of my night thus far.
The target is a super hot blonde and she is testing all over the place. She
keeps grabbing me, but she won't qualify herself and it doesn't seem to be
going the right way. I back turn and she turns me back around... then, as it
seems to happen so much in a perplexing venue, they decide to leave.
In retrospect, what I think happened was I started giving her indicators of
interest, because she pulled me back around and then she got turned off,
because I l
ostmy
har
dt
oget
ness
.
Ok, I go back inside and I see the girl who ignored my transition getting
gamed by this fat dude, he tries to grind her and she pushes her off him. I roll
up next to her and say
He'd be perfect for you".
She gags and starts laughing... I game her a bit. The guy just stands
there. I then move her outside. We're sitting down and she is very sassy, but
she's also touching me and qualifying herself, so I deal with the attitude that
makes me want to walk away.

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She has to go to the bathroom so I come back in and chill with Zen ninja
master CJ. I also may or may not have complained about hot chicks with
chodes and suggested that I start wearing polo shirts and shorts to bars.
I run back into her at the bar and she is now being grabbed by a short
dude who just claimed to be the owner of the club when he had offended a
different girl. I call her by her name and pretend we are long lost friends.
We ditch the grabby guy and go back outside. I start strawberry fields and
sexual framing ... I actually never got to finish straw fields as her friend came
out and I had to befriend her.
This is a great tactic when you can get away with it. Just start talking to
the obstacles about how you and the target are long lost friends or went to
high school together. You can also use this as an opportunity to tease the girl
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look at her now. What do I mean used to be?
I find out that my girl is in town on a layover and is leaving tomorrow. I
ask what's on the agenda for later, they say nothing.
So I now know that it has to be tonight, because she never goes back to
Florida in less than 15 hours.
I do more qualifying and sexual framing, and text CJ to come out and Wing
the obstacle. By the time he gets out there, there is another guy in the set.
The ugly lights come on and I suggest we wait for her friend outside. I say
I'm not ready for my night to end yet. She says that since she's only in town
for tonight, we should hang out more. But she has to ask her friend.
She walks to the car and I wait with CJ and Shaft. CJ suggest me going
over there to make sure they can't leave without me... Good call.
I get in the car and I hear the plan. First we have a stop in Korea town so
the obstacle can do some coke, then another stop.
My life flashes before my eyes on the 10 minute car ride. We end up at a
karaoke bar in K-town.
There are three Asian guys that were really nice. They bought me beer and
food. And we sang. This is fun for an hour and a half. But we stay from 2:30
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till 6:30 am.... I made out with her somewhere in there and sang about a
gazillion songs.
I cannot explain how annoying this was, but I had no choice. I had already
invested 3 or 4 hours and she was leaving soon. I tried to fuck her in the
empty rooms at the karaoke place, but she stopped me at the (fake) boobs
every time.
I was also really worried about the logistics because she was staying with
her friend and her friend lived at home... She asks me what I'm doing
tomorrow and I say hanging out with you.
She asks me if I can give her a ride to the airport. I see my chance here
andsay,
Actually I have a meeting right by DFW about an hour after that." I
ask her where her stuff is, and it's in her friend
s car. Perfect.
I tell her to crash with me when her friend drops her off and then I'll take
her in the morning. She agrees and after we get kicked out of the karaoke bar
at 6:30 AM, we get dropped off.
When we get in she changes and gets into bed with me. There's a little
token resistance that I just pretend like I'm going to go to sleep with, and
then it's on. She gives the best BJ ever and had a sexy porn star look on her
face the whole time. I finally get to sleep at 9 AM and have to get up at 11:30
to drive her to the airport. FOUR SNLS this month!

LR: FEAR THE STACHE: SINN


I have grown an ugly hairy Colin Farrell esquire moustache in an effort to
look more sleazy.
It is awesome ... I look like a pirate character from a punk rock B-movie on
the first night of bootcamp.
I pump a set's BT then I hand her Asian ass off to Future. Then I hit a
moving set make-out with another girl then Savoy puts his finger up her
friend's ass. The next set offers me her # after she says she's not staying up
late.

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That night ends poorly as Future decides that instead of pulling and
banging the Asian Hottie, he should come home and hang with his boy...
Flash forward to the second night and we are at a MUCH tougher hipster
weirdo and 90% Asian club. Asian girls are not my thing personally but there
were a lot of hot ones there that night. And Asian girls are notoriously tougher
in clubs on newbies. They don't generally volunteer as much in the
conversation and their not real reactive.
So I'm working with students and we're having a lot of rough spots. It's
real loud, the girls are hot and there's not an overabundance of sets around.
I decide I'll demo, I open a short girl with big boobs. She ignores me the
first time as she's on her cell phone. I repeat 30 seconds later.
It's not really on, she thinks I'm funny, but not attracted enough yet. I run
a FAP. I pull her in and then push her away. She starts to want to leave to
find her brother (Insert obvious foreshadowing here) and I dismiss her by
telling her that if she keeps standing here, I'm going to ruin her for all other
men.
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She moves me to have a cigarette. Cigarettes, they get you laid almost as
much as The Mystery Method. Side effects include death. Once a girl relocates you, it's fucking over and you will be playing my favorite type of game.
Don't fuck up game.
I move her to get drinks 2X and back into a seated location. Movement is
your best friend for SNLs ... move, move, move.
Generally if a girl is willing to move twice with you inside the place you
meet her, she will leave with you.
I run the question game. I find out she hasn't had sex in 4 years. I go
dominant and sexual on her and tell her I'm going to make her my dirty little
slut later. She says: "promise?"
I had run some of my submissiveness tests on her earlier and knew she
would respond favorably to this. Dominance and submission are huge turn
on
s for most girls. The more submissive the girl the more she will respond to
dominance.
I try to make out with her somewhere along when she moved me for a
cigarette, but I got rejected. I went in again and it was on. I even tried a trick
I learned from the last LR girl and massaged her tongue with mine like a
snake. Sounds weird, but it feels erotic. This girl commented.
Remember when a girl says no to kissing you, it often means not yet.
I suggest bouncing. She agrees, I close my tab and leave with her.
We get downstairs and her brother( who we met in a charming example of
humanity, when he yelled at her in front of me about not seeing him as he
modeled clothes) he needs a ride.
The girl uses one of my tactics, and tells me it's six blocks away when it's
Vermont and something in almost silver lake. We ride there in silence as her
brother and the guy she's agreed to fuck are both in the car...
We drop him off. I start fingering her in the car. I pull back to Savoy's and
close the deal in the guest bedroom. No LMR...

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Future gets laid around the same time with the Asian from the night
before, and all is right in the universe. three SNLS this month puts me in the
lead. And yes it's feels good to be a gangster.

LR: X 2 BACK TO BACK: SINN


This starts Tuesday night, when Printer, CJ and some other guys and girls
rolled to hotel bar. I had met a girl last time at Hotel bar on Tues, and I'm
now two for two on sets at this bar.
One of the people in our group was a reddish blond in a black and white
dress. Topo was talking to her a little bit, but I don't think that he was gaming
because he was asking her what she was going to study in school...
Hotel bar is dead as fucking fried chicken. It sucks balls. I open a two-set
with a big tittied full figured girl and an Asian girl. I open direct and lock in CJ
comes by and it's on but they're still testing. I tease back a bit then I decide
I'm not taking this and I tell the girls they're being obnoxious and walk off.
This is a huge willingness to walk away DHV I do all the time.
A girl can be attracted to you but still be bratty. I don't like sparring with
girls verbally, as it doesn't help me get them into bed that night...
Often I will prematurely end verbal sparring sessions with girls if I can
tget
them to stop. I do this by chastising them in a funny way and walking away.
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compliments me on my huge belt buckle. I call her a meat gazer then run
rings on fingers. My new version that incorporates what I was doing with
sexual frames. I say I need a drink and move her into isolation. Since Printer
brought this girl, I wanted to make sure that he was ok with me gaming her.
He says he doesn't care and I go back in.
It's super on... Strawberry Fields, hair pulling, the question game!
I move her outside and we keep talking. I run through my cheat sheet of
frames and themes and systematically hit all of them...

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We make out with my new super sexual kiss close, and her car is at
Printer's house. We all roll back as Printer pulls a 2 set. It's amazing how fast
his game is coming along. It really proves the power of individual instruction...
Not everyone can afford it, but it really shortens the learning curve.
We ride home and when we get back I suggest a game of pool after Printer
lets me know there's an extra bedroom upstairs... We play half a game of
drunken pool, I slam her against the wall make-out, feel up and then move
her to the bedroom. No LMR. The lay happened in about three hours.
This girl was a real Hottie and I should have number closed her, but I
thought she was being weird after the lay, and I left. It also shows how easy
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Wednesday night: CJ and I run a few errands and decide to hit X bar
before we hit up a SNL venue we like... We sit down next to a 2 set a blond
and a red head with freckles and large boobies... I love red heads and big
boobs...
I open her by asking for a cigarette. If you smoke and don't use that as an
opener, you're retarded... You're also retarded if you smoke (SINN).
I then tell her she's a red head and I can't talk to her... I back turn slightly.
She asks why and I respond, "Because I'm going to start hitting on you" she
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This was an example of my prepping hooking really well. By telling me to


sit down she was telling me she was attracted time to move into qualification
and sexual escalation.
Her friend wants to go home. CJ momentarily turns it around through his
patented Ninja magic, but she has to be up early and she bails. I had earlier
mentioned SNL venue and the target had been down but wanted me to pay
her cover.
Normally I wouldn't have, but it became obvious after Strawberry fields
that she would need a ride home which means it's easy for me to get her into
a seduction situation. I relent. Sometimes you have to supplicate.

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I actually initially told her I woul


dn
tpayhercoverasI felt like I was
bringing sand to the beach. But It was so on by this point that I decide to keep
it going and try to go back to back.
Her friend leaves us with her, we bounce to the SNL venue and I install
every sexual frame I need to again... It was awesome as I reframed
everything to reflect how sex is natural and normal and physical connections
are just as valid as emotional ones.
She uses A LOT of sexual innuendos too, so our conversation over the
question game devolves into dirty talk.
One of the members of Retarded girl group was there and came over to
say hi and tell the target I was a great guy. I bitched about her friend that I
had made out with and then as CJ and I were pulling her and the one last
week, she backed out hard.
So I tell her friend I'm done with her, as she had been texting me asking
why we hadn't talked. Theanswer
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While we are talking she handles the logistics of me getting into her house,
by asking me when I have to get up (6:30 PM) and then offering me a bowl
and a beer when I drop her off. I give her a massage while we are outside
waiting for CJ, who's in set with a black Hottie... Then I stop. I had already
told her that I was a huge tease. She demands a massage when we get back
to her house. She wants it by the pool, I say it's happening in your room. We
get there, We smoke and go up to her room, no LMR... about 4.5 hours...

LR: 1 TO TIE 2 TO LEAD... FUCK CJ! 2 TO TIE 3 TO


LEAD: SINN
So we roll up to the club on the Scottsdale bootcamp, I start opening sets,
and working with students. A few no go
s, a couple decent sets, nothing
special though.
A student brings me into a set with a 2 and 7. We'll call her the divorcee:
rings on fingers. Rings on finger
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Hey guys,

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I've field tested this five or six times now and I think about four of the
Dallas PUA's that went to AsianPlayboy and Prophet's Dallas Workshop (which
was AWESOME btw) tested it in field with good results too. I know this
because I ran it on an HB and she told me I was the 2nd guy to tell her that!
Ha Ha!
I have a short DHV type version and I've created a longer comfort version
that I haven't tested yet in its entirety (it is longer and is NLP-pattern based).
Here is the shorter version:
In every interaction I try to communicate (at least) the following three
things to make sex easier...
1. We're both good at keeping secrets
2. When she sees someone that she's attracted to she becomes sexually
aggressive
3. I'm not judgmental
Here's an excerpt from a recent lay report where I think it helped
immensely to allow her to become the aggressor...
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Jack "Did you know that what fingers you
have rings on says stuff about your personality?"
I point to the right pinky ring and say, "That means you are good at keeping
secrets."

HB: "I tell my brother everything."


CJ: "Just your brother?" That's ok. That's like a diary, plus he's family."
CJ
:

And your right ring finger, that means when you find the right
person and you're attracted (pointing to myself), you become sexually
aggressive"
HB: "Yessssssss!"
CJ: I look at my left middle ring and say, "This means I'm not
judgmental."
HB: "Mmmmmmm...."

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Here's how I've been doing it lately in A2, C1 or mini-isolation. I'll look
at the HB's hand and say, "hmmm..."
HB: "What? What?"
CJ: "You can tell stuff about people by which fingers they wear their
rings on"
CJ: *Look away and go silent - this is to bait her to invest in the convo*
HB: "Tell me!" or "What do mine say???"
Most girls will have at least two to three rings on their fingers. This is all
BS, but I like to keep the pinky finger the "keeps secrets" finger and the right
ring finger as "sexually aggressive when you find someone you like" finger.
Then I'll say that the left ring finger (i.e. Marriage finger) means you are
sexually submissive (which makes sense because you DID get married Ha!
Ha!).

CJ: "Wearing a ring on your pinky means you are good at keeping
secrets. That's why you pinky swear and why mafia guys wear pinky
rings."
If she doesn't have a pinky ring on I say, "Damn, we'll have to pinky
swear before we share deep secrets..." *smile*
HB: "blah, blah"
CJ: (I'll look at her other ring and it is usually either an index finger or
the right ring finger for some reason) "And, this one means that when
you find someone you are really attracted to (sneakily pointing to self
with my thumb) you feel comfortable getting sexually aggressive with
this person (again pointing to myself)"
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simportant to NOT LET HER TALK. Because she might try to


start qualifying herself as NOT being a slut or being marriage material or
whatever, because she thinks you want a prim and proper girl like that.
If SHE does get that out then you are going to have to go REALLY DEEP in
comfort and rapport later (so don't make it hard on yourself, don't let her
make a peep).

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So roll right into the last one. Point to one of your rings (remember it can't
be a finger that you've already used on her so you may need to adjust your
ring before this) and say:
"When someone wears a ring on this finger (pointing to your ring) it means
they are NOT judgmental. They don't have all of the HANG-UPS about life and
relationships that most people do."
Then, later throughout the conversation when sexual comments start
coming out I (subtly) play with that ring once or twice.
There you go. Please field test and let me know how it goes!
The student buys the girls shots and then they roll off. I work with students
some more and then run back into the divorcee. I pull her into isolation.
Strawberry Fields
Question game-- Almost Kiss
I seed the bounce to the after party at our hotel.
Her friend comes over and takes her to the bathroom.
They come back and we make out and start hardcore sexual talk. I bring El
Topo back into the set and we start my new wrecking ball routine.
Divorcee starts running her nails up and down my back and I say if you
keep doing that I'm going to have to do dirty things to you. I then say well I
have to go to the bathroom and take care of myself. She asks if she can
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I pull her to the bathroom and as soon as I lock the door, I hear a knock
like the fucking police are outside. It's t
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there together and I pretend I'm drunk and don't understand. I bring her back
and me and ET decide to pull.
Get her back to the hotel, strip her down except for her high heels, and tax
like the IRS on April 15th. Turns out her friend told ET that she does this ALL
the time and that usually her friend has to wait in the car.

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Afterwards, we go to eat and I talk merciless shit to CJ about how I'm now
only down 1 lay to him this month. Then he gets a text from a girl he was
talking to tonight who wants to come over. FUCK!!!!
Now I've just treaded water all night. I'll still catch him like he was a
robber and I owned a 7-11, it's just going to take more time.
We go to after-hours and run into J-Dog and Cramias. It was great to see
both those guys, then back to the hotel and CJ's girl rolls over and takes him
back to her place 45 minutes ago.
I feel bad for CJ because he's just forcing me to raise my game and pull
again tonight...
Today CJ looks noticeably redder due to the fire I am applying to his feet.
He also has a ringing in his ears from the thundering of my footsteps.
This lay happened during July 2007 when El Topo, myself and Captain Jack
had a lays contest. El Topo ended up winning with 9 new lays, CJ had the
most SNL
s (7 I think) and I got the hottest girl which was this strip club
waitress I briefly dated.
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the basics of Same Night Lay game. For a breakdown of SNLs we go to none
other than the master himself Captain Jack:

HOLA PUAS,
As promised, my insights on SNL's.
The first major attitude shift is this: Women don't go to clubs/bars only to
listen to music, drink or talk to friends. They can do all of those at home or at
a friend
s house. They go because they want/need sex and they want to be
picked up.
Debriefing shows they would have sex the same night more often were the
feelings there. Your job, fellow pirate, is to create the feelings, create the
opportunity and do so in a manner that seems so natural and easy that it
seems like it all just fell into place.

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Sinn referred to this when he said, "Captain Jack Method: Hang out till sex
happens."
First I want to tell you that there IS a difference between Same-Night-Lays
(SNL) and One Night Stands (ONS).
ONS skips comfort which usually results in buyer's remorse. For all the four
or five hours of precious time you invested you get one lay. Even worse, if you
mismanage the escalation and trigger ASD / LMR that you can't get through,
you'll get zero lays.
I've never had any problems seeing/dating a girl who I laid the same night
because I qualify and build comfort.
I'll take this from the top...
You need to get there early (in Tejas, that means no later than 10:00)
because some of your sets will fail the SNL screening statements (more on
that later) and you'll need to close out with a TimeBridge, stay the obligatory
five to ten minutes to solidify and move on.
You should focus on mixed sets. This may seem counter-intuitive but
experience has shown me this is true. Here's why: In all girl sets they often
pile into one car. But, in mixed sets you have a greater chance of girls taking
their own car and/or meeting the group later.
Do a little thought experiment: How many times have you witnessed a girl
walking into the bar alone...she's looking for someone...she finds them and
before you know it she is seated with a 4-5 mixed set.
You open the group in the standard way, do all the normal things you'd do
until you hit the "How do you guys know each other?" waypoint. If she's not
there with someone, then isolate (or at least get mini-isolation.)
Now that you are in isolation it's time to start with the sexual framing. I
use my version of Strawberry fields and "Rings on Fingers" to frame things
sexually and I start seeding the TB.
It is supremely important that you don't convey any "judgmentalism"
regarding sex, sexual preferences or lifestyles in any way, shape or form.

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You also don't want to place too much importance on sex by talking about
it or calling it a "special thing between two people" or any silly shit like that.
The underlying attitude is sex is normal, healthy, fun and about to happen
soon.
At the beginning of C1 I start to screen for logistics issues. I listen for
answers to these questions or ask them outright.
Who did she ride with? (Best answer is, of course, alone in her car.)
What time does she need to get up in the morning? (Best answer, later the
better.) (These things just make it easier. The better you get the more
willing girls are to ignore things like riding home with guys she just met or
getting up early. I know it's hard to believe but experience proves it true.)
If the vibe is sexual and I feel like there are no obvious excuses for her not
to come home with me (have to work early is the main one) I'll stay around. If
not, then I'm looking for a new set.
This needs to be run super-tight. I'm talking 20 minutes in you're making
this decision because you need to be solidly in comfort by 12:30 (for venues
that close at 2:00). This 1.5 hours is the MAIN (but not only) factor which
distinguishes this from ONS (the other being non-sexual qualification and peer
befriending.) I call 12:30 to 2:00 "Putting my time in..."
Always TimeBridge, it makes the SNL easier because it lessens ASD and
LMR.
As it gets closer to closing time 1:20-1:30 I start saying things like, "I
don't want the night to end, I'm really enjoying myself."
If she agrees or says nothing you can say, "Let's hang out at my place. I
have xyz alcoholic drinks and we can watch that show I was telling you
about."
Or, you can say, "I'm kind of hungry."
You're saying this to see what kind of reaction you get. She may go ahead
and propose eating somewhere. (Though, I've stopped doing this almost a
year ago because I lost a few "sure" lays as the sexual tension lessened, the
tiredness set in and the alcohol (and fun mode) wore off.)

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The after-hour clubs are also a good proposal. I've used this one quite a
few times. It's perfect because you have to swing past your place to get
alcohol before heading out. And, oh by the way, the club doesn't even open till
3am so we got 45 minutes to burn. Let's see, how are we going to kill 45
minutes? I know we'll have sex ... Ha Ha!
But, one of my favorite tactics (if she drove) is to get her to give me a ride
home. Then, while in the parking lot you can say "Come in for a bit. You can
use the restroom and have some water before you head home." Then, grab
her keys, turn off the car and get out. (What's that? Do I hear you worrying
about your car? Don't worry about it dude, you're going to get laid! Have a
friend take you back to your car if need be. Or, better yet, have the girl do it
that night.)
Logistics separate the men from the boys (or the PUAs)
The best mental image I can give you here is "Baby Steps."
I rarely tell them where/how far away I live. Some of the places I go to are
a good 35-40 minutes away.
Fidelio, KinoMaster, and Tribulus have all witnessed with their own eyes me
doing this, multiple times, as well.
The goal is to get her to the seduction location and make it look like it sort
of just happened. This is why the "Gimme a ride home" and the "after hours
venue, oh wait, gotta go home and get alcohol" tactics work so well.
Hopefully, you started a good kino progression early in the sarge. Because
once she's in your place it's time to amp it up a little bit.
Hot or cold is the order of the day. Make out, pull back, continue with your
comfort material, tease her mercilessly.
Have your LMR skills honed because you'll almost surely have to use them.
The good news is: If you don't get the lay, the day2 is almost assuredly
going to be her coming straight over to have sex with you and that's my kind
of date.
If you want to learn how you too can get all the SNLs you can handle go to
www.Sinnsofattraction.com/SNLseminar
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THREESOMES AND IN
VENUE LAYS:
Threesomes, every man has fantasized about them, but for most people
they remain just that.... a fantasy. However the threesome code has been
cracked within the seduction community and the following reports will give you
a great idea of how to take your fantasy and make it happen!

LR - HIGH COMPLIANCE THREESOME METHOD: BRAD P


Passing on some new insights on threesomes! The more you do them, the
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Just for background info, let me tell you I've been trying to "crack the
code" on threesomes for quite some time. Long before I was reading anything
related to dating I was trying to figure it out. I got as far as having a super hot
bisexual girl as my girlfriend and having her and another girl blow me in a club
years back.
That girl was always saying she wanted to have threesomes, but that's the
closest we ever came. I just left it up to her too much. I didn't control the
situations myself and that's why I never got too far ... typical chump attitude.
I have a number of friends whose girlfriends say they want threesomes.
The girls never go through with it. They just use the idea of it to get power in
the relationship. One of my female friends told me straight out she just teases
her boyfriend with it and would never do it.
So take heed of this warning: if you let your girlfriend control the
threesome, there won't be a threesome.
This is a great point for guys interested in threesomes. You must take
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Then, I tried for a while seducing two girls at once who are friends. I have
a technique for that which works pretty reliably, but only gets you to the point
of making out and grabbing tits. It fails every time after that and the girls say
"oh we have to go have a quick talk in the hallway." Every time!
This is a great routine for escalating on two girls at the same time. You can
use this to try to instigate threesomes or simply to build rapport and attraction
with the obstacles to create an internal jealousy plotline within the set. The
idea of an internal jealousy plotline is simply that you switch targets within the
set so the girls get confused as to whom you want and compete for you.
The technique works like this: You approach two girls and flirt with them
for a while, but never seem to settle on one girl. Then you get them both
together and begin building sexual tension as much as possible. Then you tell
them "Ok we're going to play a game, but you have to promise not to cheat.
This is how it works: you have to close your eyes and promise not to peak
while I whisper something in her ear. Then while one girl has her eyes closed,
you make out with the other girl. You stop intermittently and say "No peaking,
you!"
They always peak, and they know what's coming next, but having their eyes
closes allows the girls to pretend they had no idea what was happening.
Then you tell the girl you just finished making out with to close her eyes
while you whisper somet
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you start making out with the second girl. Again, you stop here and there and
say "No peaking!"
After about 3 or 4 minutes, both girls have their eyes open and are making
out with you. I've been able to get makeouts and shirts off reliably with this
technique, but it's really hard to seal the deal.
Anyway, back to the threesomes. When I finally figured out how to do it I
realized it was really something that was dependent on so many factors and
you have to manage all of them yourself.
My first solid threesome a few weeks ago was two girls who were just so
into me that they'd do anything I say. I had high compliance with those girls.
But they weren't super hot, just 7s. It was easier for me to get 7s to comply. I
had so much more value than them. And the threesome was fun, but I knew I
could keep improving on this area.

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This week I've had two threesomes, both with the same two girls. Now I
have it going with some really hot girls.
Here's what's working: Being totally in control of every aspect of things. I
did not let the girl choose who we'd have a threesome with; I bounced a few
ideas off her and made the decision myself.
The key point here was that Brad did not seem domineering during this.
Instead he gave the girl a few options before he made the decision himself.
Had he just picked without letting the girl know the options, it would not have
worked as well.
Having many girls around who give me high compliance. The primary (the
ballerina chick) was giving me high compliance, and there were three other
possible girls who I could call and they'd come over almost immediately.
The higher the compliance the more girls will do for you. Thus it makes
sense that you want to establish a high level of compliance before you try to
get girls into threesomes. You can establish compliance in a million ways. Even
something as simple as asking a girl to take some trash out to the can as
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vitally important to increase compliance throughout the interaction from the
pick-up through the relationship.
Get improved sexual performance. Every time I have a threesome my
sexual performance improves. First time I was a little nervous. This last time I
was like a fucking maniac, pounding these girls for 30 minutes at a time over
and over, girls screaming, jizz flying everywhere, girl
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each.
Let me write a bit of field report type stuff for this last one so you can see
where the insights are coming from.
New Year's Eve, I went out with the ballerina chick and as it turns out, two
of my other threesome girls were at the place we went to; the redhead from
my first threesome a few weeks back, and the crazy chick from a few days
ago.

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We never found the crazy chick, because the place was so crowded, but the
redhead and the ballerina chick were attracted to each other. That was
surprising to me since the ballerina chick is so much hotter. The redhead is
like a 7. Just goes to show you that sometimes women see things differently
than men. I think she just digs redheads. We all talked pretty openly about
the threesomes and they were saying "How come neither of us got to pick out
the girl. We both weren't all that attracted to the other girl."
Moral of the story - if I would have let these chicks be choosy, I would
have had zero threesomes.
I did the choosing myself and I got three threesomes. Better to get a
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just endure the complaints after the fact than let the girls take over choosing.
Again another example of frame control; were Brad to roll over and
apologize for that or try to set up a threesome with those two girls
immediately, it would have backfired.
I could have maybe had those two girls that night, but there was a third
girl and she was drunk and obnoxious. She gave me this long player hating
speech, "You better not hurt my friend's feelings, I will come find you and kick
you fucking ass. Seriously I will. Be nice to her. I know your type; you think
you can just do whatever the hell you want and not care about anyone else,
blah blah blah."
I told her, "I'm nicer to your friend than anyone. I give her great sex and
cute girls.... (turn to redhead) Right? She says "Yeah, he's really nice." But
she kept going so I said, "Ok let me know if I ever make her sad. Cause
sometimes girls like to suffer in silence. I have lots and lots of girls and I leave
them all better than I found them. You
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I knew I could just call Redhead the next day and have her come over, so I
decided not to deal with this angry asshole. I will give redhead a note next
time I see her that she should be careful, because if she ever gets a high
quality guy interested in her, the friend will ruin it.
The angry friend makes Redhead look like a low-self-esteem victimized
woman, when she's actually not. If I were actually serious about Redhead and
I found out she had low self esteem, I would probably ditch her after
something like this.

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Redhead called me later to complain about how her friend was up till 7am
puking and whining about how her life is so empty. No surprises there.
So New Years day, I call the redhead up and invite her over, but she's
tired, busy, whatever? So I go ahead and call the crazy chick. I tell her we're
just mellowing out. She says she has plans, but calls back 30 minutes later
because plans fell through.
I tell her come over, we're watching a movie. Not sure if we'll fuck you that
much if at all, just come by. So she does.
We watch the movie. Then I start escalating both girls. The ballerina chick
is such a great teammate. She escalated the other girl for me. We end up
fucking like crazy for a few hours. There were some highlights:
Ballerina chick ate pussy for the first time ever and made the other girl
cum. I could not get her to cum myself, I tried everything. Crazy chick said it
was "Because she had such a nice small mouth." OK, whatever works!
We ate the ballerina chick's pussy for about 45 minutes and just switched
off whenever we got tired. It's nice to have a helper. She came like crazy!
We did freaky positions like one girl is eating another girl and getting
fucked at the same time, etc. I fucked the ballerina chick till she was sore and
couldn't take anymore. No problem. SWITCH! Busted a nut all over both
chicks!
I gave the crazy chick such a deep fucking that she was turning red from
the pain. Me and the ballerina chick were both getting off on her yelping and
crying. It was some sadistic shit. We just looked at each other and smiled
while the crazy chick writhed and looked all scared and freaked out. We are
evil fuckers!
My quote of the day: "Ok,you'll be like the nurse who holds her hand to
take away the pain. I'll be like the doctor who rips her insides open."A bit over
the top! You think? Don't try that one at home, I'm a professional
.

To learn more about threesomes from BradP check out


www.BradPpresents.com

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LR - ORCHESTRATING MY FIRST THREESOME:


ENTROPY
This is a long LR. It is detailed with encounters with multiple girls over the
period of months, so grab some popcorn.
Background
It finally happened. After working months towards a singular goal, I was
able to make a threesome happen. This has been new territory for me, and
the learning process on the way was both exciting and frustrating.
I had always read threesome LR's by guys like BradP and been in awe, but
after experiencing how fucking hard it is to organize one in person, my respect
has doubled -- your game has to be ROCK solid to orchestrate one of these.
I had come close twice before, but blown it both times. The first time was
when I first got into game. I somehow managed to end up at a college party
with two cute girls sitting on my lap, one on each knee.
We soon began a three-way make-out session, but my lousy escalation
ended up weirding one out.
A second time, I managed to bring two girls home from a club who were
friends with each other. They had been saying they wanted to double-team
me, but I didn't believe them (they seemed to be the cock-teasing type). I
honestly just needed a ride home and figured they'd dump me at the
doorstep. They actually followed me into my apartment and I began to make
out with one. I motioned for the other to sit down on the other side of me
when she freaked out and said she had to leave. Oh well, at least I banged the
other one.
So the possibility of two girls at once has long existed within my reality. It's
been there, but slightly out of reach. These two occurrences happened with
me kind of blindly going out, but there had to be some sort of method to this
madness. I got on the internet and read some material by threesome masters
like BradP and jlaix and managed to follow somewhat of a process.
1. Find your primary girl
I found mine by accident. It was August 30th, 2007, a hot summer day. I

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woke up late for work (as usual) and began to rush out the door. In the other
room I heard my roommate rummaging through some stuff, probably packing
to leave. Our lease was to run out the next day and we were both in the
process of moving out. As I begin to walk out for work, I hear an unfamiliar
voice. "Hey!" I turn around. It's not my roommate. Who the fuck is this? Oh
wait, it's a girl... and she's cute. "Hey, I'm moving in a bit early, I hope you
don't mind. Can you give me a hand moving my bed?" I told her I was late for
work, but if she was there when I got back I'd give her a hand. Real cute girl.
Strong eye contact. Interesting vibe. Definitely attractive.
I come back and help her move some stuff... except, I'm not exactly
needed. There are three other guys over falling over each other to move her
shit in for her. I'm courteous to the guys and tease her for losing her keys
after having them only six hours. I call her princess and ask her if she's
pleased with her servants. All of this is said in more of a casual manner as
opposed to if I was in a bar or something. The flirting with the frame that I
was home and with nothing better to do, I might as well flirt with her.

The next day, I came home from work and had a beer to unwind. At this
point, our living room was completely empty except one reclining chair that
we were going to throw out. I sat in that chair sipping the beer just relaxing
when I hear the door open. I hope to myself that it's her. It is. She blasts
through the apartment right past me not even noticing me. I sip my beer. She
comes back out and pulls out her phone. I calmly watch and sip my beer. She
even walks over to my room to see if I'm in there (IOI), and then walks back
to her new room. I calmly remain in my chair, enjoying my frosty beverage. A
few minutes later she brings a box into the hall, a mere 10 feet from me, with
her back to me, opens it and begins assembling some furniture. I give it a
minute and when it's really quiet I scream REALLY loud. She freaks out and
jumps like three feet in the air. "Oh my God, I didn't even see you there! Have
you been there the whole time?"
I thought this was just playful and kind of funny. But at a later date, I
asked her when she consciously knew she was attracted to me, and this was
the moment. She said, "I thought you were cute, but that day when you just
sat there in the chair forever when I didn't notice you, something about that
really made me want you."
The next day was the first and I was moving out. My new roommate came
over to help me move all of my stuff and HBNewApt was in a cranky ass
mood. As soon as we walk in she starts telling me stuff I have to move for
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her. I kind of blow her off, but honestly, some of the shit was stuff me and my
roommate left behind, so I eventually complied with some of it. But she
wouldn't stop.
Every time I came back it was something else I had to do for her -- it was
getting REALLY annoying. I would tease her, ignore her, even argue a little,
but she was stubborn as all hell and wouldn't let me off the hook. Honestly, it
was kind of sexy. But regardless, fuck that, I'm not doing some girl's chores
for her. I tell her, "I have one more box to put in the car, then I'll come back
and move that chair for you." My roommate and I go back out and finish the
car and I start to get in. He says, "you're not going to go move the chair?"
"Fuck that dude, I've been doing her favors all week."
Couple hours later, once I cooled off and unloaded into my new apartment,
I realized that if I didn't make amends or somehow comply with HBNewApt,
she'd be gone. I had # closed her the day before, so I figured I'd call her and
test the waters. I had no problem ditching her on the spot if she continued to
be pushy and obnoxious, but there was a charisma and sexiness to her
stubborn authority. I wanted to know more. I like strong women who test my
frame so well. I call her and it goes something like this:

HB: "Hey."
Me: "Hey, it's Entropy4."
HB: "Hi." <said coldly>
Me: "Sounds like you think I'm an asshole.
HB: "Well, it's not like I'm surprised or anything."
Me: "Hah, well, then allow me to apologize. My friend was in a hurry."
(It's not lying, it's flirting) "I was actually considering coming back
and moving that stuff for you."
HB: "Oh yeah, considering? It IS your shit after all."
Me: "Yeah, but see, I'm pretty busy over here. We're setting up for our
housewarming party. I have to know, how important is it to you?"
HB: "Pretty important, I need to get this shit out of here."
Me: "On a scale from one to ten, how important?"
HB: *laughs* "Scale from one to ten? Um, I guess like a six."
Me: "Oh, then it can wait until tomorrow."
HB: "NO!"
Me: *laughs* "Well, you said it was only a six on the importance scale, I
have some pretty important things to do over here."
HB: "OK, then it's a ten."
Me: "No, no, you can't do that. Ten is reserved for cancer and terrorist
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attacks only."
HB: *laughs*
Me: "Are you belittling the severity of cancer and terrorism?"
HB: "No, of course not. Well, then I guess it's a seven."
Me: "Seven is doable. That's pretty important. Maybe I should come do
it."
HB: *laughs* "Yeah, you should, asshole!"
Me: "Oh no, you have to ask nicely though."
HB: "I did ask nicely, then you left!"
Me: "No, you didn't. You're pretty bossy. I just demand some respect is
all."
HB: "Fine. Would you please come move the rest of this stuff?"
Me: "OK, but on one condition."
HB: "What's that?"
Me: "You come to our party tonight and have a beer. You're cranky as
fuck."
HB: *laughs* "You're right. I might do that."
Me: "OK, I'll be there soon."
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Here Entropy was in no danger of losing his attractiveness, but if he had
continued to refuse to move the stuff he would have lost the girl. A lot of
game is knowing when to be reasonable.
I go over there about 30 minutes later. She greets me at the door and
within one second, before she even speaks or looks at me, I notice IOI's: she
showered and did her hair since I left, she changed into a cute dress, her
roommates are conveniently gone leaving her alone with me. I move the crap
for her and she teases me while I do it. Afterwards she sits down with me and
offers me a beer.

HB: "I didn't think you'd come back, honestly."


Me: "I didn't think I would either."
HB: "Really? So why did you?"
Me: "I kind of like you."
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We chat for a bit, mostly fluff. I do a couple cold reads and am dead on. I
isolate to her bedroom by telling her to show me something dumb she
mentions or something. We're on her bed and I'm ready to kiss close when
one of her roommates gets home. I decide to jet, but emphasize that she
should come to the party that night and that all of her roommates are invited.
She waffles a bit but agrees.
For the community guys who were at that party, she was the brunette who
spent most of the night on my lap with her lips attached to my face. We were
that obnoxious couple who wouldn't detach or stop touching each other. This
girl was REALLY sexual and got turned on very easily.
She was very frank, at one point plainly saying, "I want you to fuck me
tonight." A little later she said it again, and I suggested we go back to her
place (my old place). It was a comical situation. Here I am, leaving my OWN
housewarming party to go back to my old apartment, so early that everyone
hasn't even gotten there yet. BUT, I do it anyway, and proceed to fuck her
brains out. She was AWESOME in bed.
She tells me now that she intended for me to be a one-night stand -- which
is funny, because I could genuinely tell that there was a real chemistry
between us that first night. Out of all of the girls I fuck, most I know won't last
long, some I know will last a few months, and then there are rare few that I
can tell I will get very close to. I could tell from day one, I'd end up very close
to this girl.
I came over again later that week. She tells me she also intended me to be
a two-night stand.
We end up consistent fuck buddies. Soon, she's promoted to my primary
fuck buddy, considering the amazing sex we have and how well we get along.
Emotional undertones begin forming in our relationship.
One night about a month or two later, in our post-coital discussion, I bring
up her hooking up with girls. She mentions that her roommate, HBViolinist
and her like to hook up:

Me: "Oh, like at parties and stuff right?"


HB: "No, fuck that, we don't do it for attention. It's when we're alone."
Me: "Really?"

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HB: "Yeah. She's really sexy." The next line was said flippantly, but I
figured I might as well shoot for the stars:
Me: "Yeah, she is. We should bring her to bed with us one night."
FB: (excited) "Oh my God, I would be in heaven."
Me: "Seriously, we should work on that."
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I tried not to sound excited or anything, but
inside I was screaming "YES! YES! YES!"
Let one person do more of the sarging. This is shit is MUCH harder than I
anticipated. At this point, I thought it was in the bag. Just get me, my FB and
HBViolinist together the same night with a couple drinks, and viola!
Didn't quite happen that way. My FB would get her to hang out with us, but
whenever we began to escalate, HBViolinist would freak out and leave. At first,
I blamed myself.
HBViolinist didn't know me that well, so I figured I needed to run some
game on her. The next time, I would flirt with her a lot and spend more time
talking to her to build comfort. She'd stick around a little longer, but again,
bail on us at the last minute.
My girl was ULTRA-aggressive with her. She'd basically come out of
nowhere and say, "So, are we going to have a threesome tonight?" And
HBViolinist's knee-jerk response would be, "NO!" I began to realize, it was no
different than a classic guy-girl sarge. She wants to be seduced, not
convinced. We need to just make it happen, we can't talk her into it. At one
point, when we were molesting her or something, I even said this, "We can't
talk her into it. We just need to make it happen." And HBViolinist said,
"EXACTLY!"
Lesson learned: It's tricky with threesomes because you HAVE to suggest it
without pushing it. You can't talk her into doing it, but at the same time, you
have to let her know it's an option.
So we backed off some, and spent more time together. Things got closer.
HBViolinist would sometimes come climb into bed with us and there would be
a lot of touching. But every time when I began to think it may happen, she'd
get up and leave again saying, "not tonight," or "I can't right now." It was
frustrating. This happened a few more times, until my natural reaction was to
just call her for what she was, a tease. My girl agreed. I said, "I'm serious,

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she's acting exactly as if she's cockteasing a guy, except it's both of us at


once." We talked for a bit until I said:

Me: "You know what we should do? We should go pick up a different


girl together."
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HB:
Violinist will get jealous."
FB: "True, she wouldn't be able to tease us like this anymore."
A little later, FBNewApt and I went to a party together. I spotted a REALLY
hot girl and talked to her for a minute. It was going all right, when I pulled
FBNewApt aside and said:

Me: "I think she's really hot, don't you?"


FB: "Yeah, she is. I've met her before. I think she's bi. Want to pick her up?"
Me: "Absolutely."
We re-opened her and I suppose the plan was we'd both flirt with her.
What happened was just ridiculous. Like, I feel like I have some pretty solid
game and my attraction game is definitely up to par. But I might as well not
have existed. Here I am with banter and C+F lined up, and my girl just comes
in with a little kino and tells her she looks cute and they're set.
That's it. What would take me 20 minutes to do, she does in like 10
seconds. It's fucking ridiculous. I tried to flirt and banter anyway, but it
seemed out of place and didn't go anywhere -- you know, the feeling you get
when you over-game an HB6 or something, there's no reason to be running it
and you feel weird for doing so. But this was fucked up, because this girl was
a solid HB9 and looking really fucking hot that night.
We even managed (and by we, I mean she) to get the target back home
with us. We're hanging out in the kitchen afterwards and my girl and the
target are kino'ing and kissing a little. At least this sarge was much smoother,
but it's time for the suggestion.

FB: "You're really sexy" *kissing HB9*


HB: *moans* "You are too."
FB: "You should come to bed with us."
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HB: *pause* "I can't."


FB: "Aww, why not?"
HB: *looks at me* "Well, I have a boyfriend, so I can only hook up
with girls." <looks at FB> "But I'd still love to sleep with you."
FB: "Well, I'm not going to bed without him." *points to me*
It fell through. And even though it was going to be hard to get her into bed
with a boyfriend, I definitely dropped the ball on this sarge. Thinking about it
later, I realized you can't approach the sarge as a 2v1 situation like that it
probably overwhelms the target.
Lesson learned: You and your girl have to act as a team -- you operate as
one entity. As such, divide up the labor for efficiency. For instance, let her
carry the work-load as far as attraction and comfort goes, because she's 10x
better than you at it. All you have to do is be passively funny/hot. Be that by
leading, being strong and alpha. You don't have to talk too much. With three
people there are more than enough logistics, and managerial things to take
care of, so take an initiative and do that.
To illustrate my point about letting the girl take the workload, I'll give you
a quick story from this week. I woke up Saturday at FBNewApt's. She got up
to go out and get bagels and coffee down the street. She came back 15
minutes later and told me this:
"So, I was in line at the coffee shop and there were two really sexy girls in
line in front of me holding hands. One of them kissed the other and it was
really hot so I told them they were sexy. We talked for a minute and I told
them that me and a guy I'm seeing are looking to pick up girls together. I told
them you were hot and good in bed and a good, trustworthy guy. So one of
them gave me her number and told me to call her."
She called her that night and we have a day 2 with her set up this
weekend. Fucking ridiculous, right? See what I mean? Let her do the work.
She's better at it.
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threesomes. Girls are better at picking up girls than guys. Even PUAS.
This doesn't mean you can't try to pull girls too, she's just going to be
better than you. But I got into the act. I have an old FB from like a year ago,
that I had been talking to again. I remembered that way back she mentioned

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that she had never hooked up with a girl but had always wanted to. I decided
to rekindle things with her a bit and maybe try to pull her in to be the second
girl. First, I told my primary girl, who agreed to hang out with her and gave
me the green light to game her. Next, I went out with FBOldSkool a couple
nights later with her friends. We were sitting around having drinks where I
"just happened" to bring up the old conversation about her hooking up with
girls.

Me: "You said you always wanted to fool around with a girl right?
FB: "Yeah, I mean I'm curious. But I've never really tried. I don't know
how to go about it or what to do. I guess I don't want it enough
to go out of my
way to do it. I prefer guys."
Me: "Well, what about doing a girl and a guy at the same time, would
you ever do that?"
FB: "Yeah, that would be cool. It'd depend who it was. But I think that
could be amazing."
Me: "I've wanted a threesome for awhile, but it just never seems to
happen. I've gotten close a few times..."
Here, I tell her about my close calls, and then run my girl-girl-guy,
fag-fag-whore routine (credit: Tucker Max). She laughs and we've
been talking about threesomes for awhile now, I decide to make
the suggestion.
Me: "You know, I've been seeing this girl lately, she's really cool, and
she's bi."
FB: "Really? That's awesome."
Me: "Yeah, we kind of actually want to pick up a girl together."
FB: *she suddenly realizes what's coming and gets a nervous yet
interested look on her face* "Yeah?"
Me: "You should come out with us one night."
FB: "You're not serious, are you?"
Me: "Completely serious."
FB: *silent, but still interested*
Me: "She's a cool girl. I think you'll like her."
FB: "Oh my God, I can't believe I'm going to do this."
Me: "Look, just come out, we'll have some drinks, and if anyone is
uncomfortable, no harm done."
FB: *pauses* "OK."
I ended up going home with her and fucking her again. It had been a long
time, and I think it may have made her feel better about the whole threesome

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thing. At the end of the night she said, "I'm actually kind of excited about
meeting her."
3. Share the attention and sexual tension equally
Admittedly; I thought it was going to be smooth sailing from here -- just as
I had assumed it'd be smooth sailing prematurely with HBViolinist. A normal
day 2 presents logistical and comfort issues. But these issues are just
compounded with a third person. I really underestimated this phase of the
pickup. Just coordinating all three of us to a cool bar on the same night at the
same time without any other people was hard enough. Once we got there, it
got even more complicated.
This is one thing I didn't notice until thrown into the situation. You start
with the threesome frame. You pick up a primary girl and get her to buy into
the frame. And then the two of you find a second girl to buy into the
threesome frame. During this time, all of the attention is either focused on
your primary girl or your secondary girl.
But once everyone's bought into the frame, no more convincing must be
done, seduction must be done. And seduction is definitely a participatory
exercise. Attention must be divvied up equally between the three of you.
Sexual tension must be maintained between you and both girls and between
the girls.
Conversations must be managed so that antagonistic threads don't arise.
For instance, if I bust on one girl, and the other girl laughs and busts on her
too, we've now created an "us versus her" frame, which can be delicate -especially if the girl busted on is your primary. And of course, the golden rule,
ALWAYS showing your primary girl more attention than the secondary. But at
the same time, you cannot ignore the secondary girl to the point that she feels
excluded or unwanted.
The whole thing felt fragile and as a result, kind of stressed me out. But
regardless, it went great. The girls hit it off and really liked each other and I
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quite a bit and was confident they both really liked me. The conversations
went well and the three of us even danced together for awhile. But still, the
constant attention to everything was very taxing. There were times where one
person would quickly "drop out" of the interaction, because they hadn't been
included in a conversation thread.

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And whereas dropping out of a conversation is harmless in a platonic


scenario, when you're all trying to fuck each other's brains out, it can kill the
sexual tension and the vibe. But in the end, it worked. My primary at one
point blurted out to both of us, "I just want both of you at once." The
secondary took it well, and at one point pulled me aside and asked me if
FBNewApt was really into her or not. About 15 minutes later, FBNewApt pulled
me aside and asked the same question. I said yes to both.
And as you could probably guess, all three of us drank........ a lot.
4. A three-way close
We all go to FBNewApt's place and hang out for a minute in her room. After
a couple minutes FBOldSkool sidles up next to FBNewApt on her bed, and I'm
still standing up. I had told FBNewApt before we went out that she would have
to take the initiative to start things because FBOldSkool had never been with a
girl before and didn't really know how to go about it.
So while they're on the bed next to each other, I excuse myself to the
bathroom. Pissing like a goddamn race horse, I stare in the mirror: "Please
God, let them be making out when I come back. Please let them be hooking
up when I get back." I finish and go back in. And?
They're hooking up.
They look up at me grinning. HBNewApt says, "What do you think?" I reply,
"Jesus, what have I done?" They giggle and I climb onto the bed with them.
Three-way kissing goes on for awhile. I position myself in between them
with both of them kissing over me. Our hands are roaming all over the place
as I have one on one girl's tits and the other on the other's ass. Random
hands that don't belong to me are grabbing my crotch. This is pretty fucking
awesome. Their pants come off first as they start rubbing each other's clits.
HBNewApt moves to take my pants off, and at that point everything just came
off at once, and we're off to the fucking races.
Now, when I brought these girls together, I knew them both fairly well.
They're both cool chicks and they're both pretty hot, like HB8-8.5 range. I was
hoping they'd be into each other and hook up a bit. I didn't want them to feel
timid or pressured around one another. I would have been content for them to
just fool around a little. Well, these girls fucking RAVAGED each other.

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Holy carpet-munching Batman! Before I even knew what was happening


they were involved in all sorts of sucking, rubbing and screaming. Like, I've
been told by numerous girls that I eat a good pussy and know my way around
a vagina, but I watched what they were doing and it looked like Klingon sign
language down there. And whatever it was, it worked. They were screaming
and moaning like fucking banshees.
So what did I do? Is this where I bum rush in and pound one girl in the ass
and fist the other while doing bench presses? No... Actually, in all honestly, I
had no clue what to do with myself. It's one thing to see a porno, it's another
to have it happening right in front of you. I was overwhelmed, bewildered, and
a little bit intimidated.
On top of that, they were so busy devouring each other's vaginas that I
couldn't even butt in. It was a weird feeling of exhilaration and frustration. I
actually lost my erection. My immersion was nothing. I was totally in my head,
anxious, and annoyed. At one point I felt like I could have left and gotten a
sandwich and they wouldn't have noticed. I took their hands and made them
give me handjobs, but they were so pre-occupied with each other that they
half-assed it. I started to freak out a little. Here I am, the craziest sexual
experience of my life, an experience I've pursued for months, and what am I?
A spectator with his dick in his hand... literally.
Finally, after about 15 minutes and probably like three orgasms, my
primary noticed my predicament. She paid some more attention to me and
freed up HBOldSkool's vagina, so I could play with it. My girl started going
down on me, and after a minute I began to relax and get into the moment
again. The erection came back and the dark clouds of my mind parted for the
light of pure sexual glory. HBOldSkool joined HBNewApt on my cock.
In case you don't know, two girls blowing you at once is pretty awesome.
Re-energized like the fucking machine I am, I took control. I pulled
HBOldSkool off. I told HBNewApt to ride my dick and for HBOldSkool to sit on
my face and make out with her. TRIANGLE OF LOVE BABY!
They went for awhile and then they both stopped, got up... and switched
places! TRIANGLE OF LOVE STRIKES BACK BABY! Now, that my fantasy was
fulfilled, time to fulfill my girl's (she had told me what she wanted to do prior).
I told HBOldSkool to lay down, and HBNewApt immediately went down on her,
sticking her ass in the air, knowing what was coming. I started nailing her
from behind and shoving her head into HBOldSkool's pussy. Some sights are
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too beautiful for words.


So I finish, and at this point we've been going at this stuff for like 45
minutes. Are they done? No, of course not. I sit and smoke a cigarette as I
watch them continue to fondle, mangle and grope the deepest and darkest
parts of each other's bodies. More moans, more orgasms, where's the
ashtray? A scream, a spank, and a strong desire for a ham sandwich. This is
unreal. What the fuck? Finally, they wrap it up and we lay in bed, exhausted
and satisfied.
We're all starving, so HBNewApt takes us into the kitchen and makes us all
some eggs. The look of her roommate in the living room was pretty priceless,
as it was obvious he heard everything, "Wait, TWO GIRLS just walked out of
there?"
We scarf the eggs up and we go to bed. Wait, HBNewApt is fingering
HBOldSkool again. Oh Jesus, are you kidding me? AGAIN?!? I get in on the
action some this time, by fingering my girl while she goes down on
HBOldSkool for like the 10th time. They both get off. I tried to get it up again,
but it was almost 5AM at this point, and I was drunk, exhausted and
completely spent so it was a no-go.
I fell asleep with two naked girls laying on my chest, arm around each.
That in itself felt surreal, but the whole night was fucking crazy. I can think of
about 20 words to describe it, and they're all true yet insufficient: chaotic,
amazing, stressful, overwhelming, insane, hardcore, ridiculous, fun, weird,
surreal -- they all work.
In all, it's two days later and it still doesn't feel like it happened. It feels
like it was a dream that all three of us shared and can't stop talking about. I
don't know where to go from here. When I came into PUA, I had a mental
checklist of things I wanted to accomplish, and now this is it. I've done them
all. Where do I go from here? It's a strange feeling.
To learn more about Entropy check out www.practicalpickup.com
Threesome Breakdown:
Much like there is more than one way to skin a cat, there is more than one
way to set up a threesome. There are also many different types of
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Bringing them together:


This refers to the type of threesome where you have two girls you are
already sleeping with and you bring them together. With these kinds of
threesomes, the most important thing is establishing who the primary girl is.
There can be no confusion over this. One girl is the guest star and the other is
the lead actress. You also have to make sure that you lead this situation the
entire way through as opposed to letting the girls make the decisions.
Remember that as a man it is ALWAYS your job to lead!
Tandem Hunting:
Tandem hunting refers to any threesome where you and your primary
collaboratively bring a third girl in. This could take the form of the two of you
going to a bar and pick some random girl up, or it could take the form of the
two of you asking various friends, or even placing a personal ad. Tandem
hunting both makes things easier and harder. It makes things easier because
girls are better at attracting girls than guys.
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tandem hunting will be super easy. It also makes handling logistics much
easier. This is because girls will feel much safer going home with a couple than
with a guy only. Girls also read social cues better and know when to escalate
and when to extract. The girl should always be leading the pick-up.
But you have to lead the seduction. The problems with tandem hunting
occur in the form of cold feet and jealousy. Many women will agree
intellectually to the idea of going out and picking up a girl together. However
when it comes time to actually go out and do it they have a sudden change of
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The worst possible thing that you can do in these situations is pressure the
girl. Instead just drop it for the night and bring it up again later. You always
want to keep the focus of the threesome on her pleasure as opposed to your
own. The other problem is jealousy. Girls are going to get jealous when they
see you talking to, flirting with and escalating on other girls.
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You are the passenger in the interaction. You still need to be able to add value
to the group and not lower your own value, but the less you game the better
tandem hunting will go.

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COLD APPROACH
By far the hardest way to have a threesome is to go out alone and try to
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You also will be outnumbered. There are two distinct schools of thought on
the cold approach threesome. The first adheres to the idea that as with any
other type of threesome you need to pick a primary first. So you would
approach one group of people and somewhere in the comfort phase of the
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with you. This is risky for a couple reasons.
First it has to be on enough that she is ready to go home with you herself.
Do this too early and it can come off like a joke. Too late and it can ruin an
otherwise perfectly good pull. The second school of thought involves
approaching a group of two girls and gaming both of them. This way is easier
if simply because you only have to do one approach. However there are a
variety of issues due to jealousy, keeping both girls attracted, logistics etc.
The thing to take away from cold approach threesomes is that they can
happen.

More In-Venue Lays:


What are In Venue Lays?
In venue lays are all about getting the girl to get sexual with you inside the
venue. Sometimes this will happen in bathroom, sometimes it will happen in
cars, sometimes parking lots . IVLs are a very advanced thing, but I wanted to
include them in this book to show you guys what is possible.

BANGED MODEL IN CLUB BATHROOM: BRAD P


I went out in low state again last night. Some nights I sit in my house
procrastinating. I want to go out, but I don't want to go out. It's really cold
and windy in NY.

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I maybe think I'll call a fuck buddy and have her come over. Or I need a
night off because I've had sex every night this week....(All kinds of nonproductive self talk.)
Then I go on www.fastseduction.com and that's cool but you can sit there
all day and get nothing else done if you're not careful. So I decide I will go out
and do some networking. Not out to game really, but in the back of my mind I
KNOW I'm going to. How can I not?
It's just in me now. So I leave the house around 1am. It is freezing ass
cold and super windy as I ride my skateboard 15 blocks to the subway. And I
wait, and wait, and wait for the train. I text a fuck buddy on the train, she
can't hang, she's out on a date. I get to the city at like 2am. There are party
people everywhere. I see all the drunk club girls.
They're all happy and silly, and the guys are vibing with them. I'm so not in
that world right now. I find the rock venue I was on the way to, go in and just
kind of stand there. I go out alone all the time, so even in low state I have
absolutely no qualms about standing by myself at a bar. I will stand tall and
emanate utter coolness at all times. This time I stood in the middle of the
dance floor and just looked around. People are dancing all around me and I'm
just standing there. I know it sounds weird but it wasn't. Nothing is ever weird
if you're comfortable with yourself.
This is a key point. You have to learn to be comfortable standing by
yourself in a bar. So many guys get uncomfortable and show it in their body
language. They act like they are out of place, nervous and uncomfortable. You
must act like you are always the coolest person in the club.
Then I see people I know. Kids I used to work with when I was a social
worker are all grown up now and they're out drinking. So I hang with them,
why the hell not. Then I see this chick my friend used to date, and it's weird
because my ex-girlfriends always dig him and his ex-girlfriends always dig me.
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So this girl is all flirty with me and I tell her a story of how I was banging
one of her friends and the girl started bleeding all over and got embarrassed
and never talked to me again. She says "You must have a huge dick, can I see
it? I've heard about it."

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So I'm like sure, we're friends why not. But she wants to see it hard, so I
end up in a dark corner of this place, whacking off and playing with her tits a
little bit. It sounds weird I know, but like I said not many things are really
weird to me anymore.
It was almost not sexual because we both knew we could never ever fuck.
So we carried on a totally normal conversation while I whacked it. Then she
took a look, made a few comments, and that was that. We went back to
whatever else we were talking about. It was no big deal. Weird stuff happens
in the field
Then I noticed I was fucking horny from that. I told her and she said
maybe I can fuck one of her friends. I told her maybe, we'll see. But I had
little interest
causeI hate that whole thing where someone is trying to hook
you up. It's so awkward. I can hook myself up much better. But I have to say
that whacking off and playing with boobs was a huge state builder for me.
Seeing some friends was nice too, got me feeling more social.
So I decide to move on to a dance party. I go to this party a few times a
month where everyone dances in their underwear. It's kind of like a theme
party I guess. It a very sexually free environment, that's for sure. It's hard to
game for outsiders because it's so loud. I see dudes trying to game there and
they get shut down like crazy. But I have some status there because I know
the DJ. So girls will open me and I get some peer group advantage, as well
because I know some people there.
This is a great point. Make sure that you are meeting the high status
people in the places you go out to. The more you are seen hanging with high
status guys and girls, the higher people will assume your status is.
In this case I was still looking to just hang with friends and not game. So
that's what I did. But I did get introduced to this tall model chick. I'm not
talking model like runway/cosmo, I'm talking about suicide girl naked model
type.
I didn't know who she was, I just kind of talked to her for a few minutes. I
was a bit cocky with her and she got creeped out. This dork was getting all
protective of her too. I think he was part of her close peer group. I saw she
was creeped and I just stopped talking to her. But I didn't walk away, I stood
right there and just turned away a little. Again, no loss of comfort for me... If
she's creeped out that's her problem not mine. I'm not even all that interested
in her anyway.
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mistakes in them.
I go about my business. This blond is touching me really sexually. She's
leading me towards the bathroom. She asks if I got to go too. I say yeah, she
says let's wait on line together so we can get to know each other better.
Now I know this could easily be her way of saying "come into the bathroom
and fuck me please." On line she starts asking interview style questions like
where I'm from etc. I was kinda thrown by that actually, but I went with it. I
thought at the time it was some kind of anti-slut rationalization like "if I know
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dance in the bathroom?"
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stay out." So I misread that one, but it
s ok there was no fallout from it.
Dancing in the bathroom sounded innocent enough.
I'd rather misread it that way than the opposite- which would be me not
picking up on her wanting to fuck me then losing out. This blond was not
worth any more effort. Her face was gorgeous, but she had a gut. And I'm
more into body than face most of the time anyway.
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escalate girls as soon as they are showing signs of attraction.
So I ditched that chick. But I think the model girl may have been watching
it all go down, how the blond was all over me. It may have de-creepified her.
Social proof is a wonderful thing.
OK a little background here, a bunch of these girls are all on this porno
website. It's basically a knock off of suicide girls. Tattoos, piercings, hair dye,
you get the picture. The way they market this site is to send these chicks out
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to party in bars and clubs. They want all the dudes to get crushes and pay to
see these chicks get naked on the Internet.
So these chicks all end up being party girlfriends with each other. The
ringleader is this obnoxious chick. This girl is seriously not even that hot and
she acts like she's the coolest ever
cause she's a hustler model. She's kinda short and squat, but she's got a
certain energy and confidence. She masters every social situation, a true
alpha female. Some people just buy into her so much. Since she's in Hustler
magazine she always shows me the pictures (validation seeking). I made out
with her months ago in like 10 minutes just to prove a point that I was way
cooler than her. Now I'm in the process of banging all of her friends one by
one.
The model chick I picked up last week was her roommate. The obnoxious
chick walked in on me eating this girl's pussy a few days ago, but she was so
cool about it. She yelled "Thank you for going down on my roommate!"... So
now we seem to kind of like each other. I think we've reached an
understanding. I think she can see I have a talent and she wants to see how
well I do.
So anyway, the obnoxious chick walks into the place and she's standing on
a bench of course surveying and being the coolest in the place. She sees me
and starts waving. I go talk to her. All of these girls are huge suckers for the

whateversong.
They cannot get enough of it. They're all trying to learn it, learning it
wrong, I have to correct them, then shoot them down again with a new
whatever song. They keep rehashing the first time I did. They're like "OMG,
remember when we met and you sang the song... (all these small details)."
Little did I know the model chick and the obnoxious chick are best friends;
they're both in the porno site and they're strippers at the same place too!
But they just got fired tonight because of some wacky stripper drama that I
won't get into here. Now I have more social proof
cause all the chicks are
doing
whateversongs with me. My shirt says "Whatever." I am like MR.
WHATEVER 2006.
Now all the sudden the model chick wants to talk to me again. She comes
over and shows me some cool new handshakes. We start vibing and I start
using the attract material.
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FEMALE TRUISM/COLD READ:

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Of course she says, "Yeah how'd you know, that's amazing."


I drop a bunch of shocker lines and cocky/funny stuff. Then she's telling
me she's a model and I go into a routine I call "Conversion chart." I lead into a
whole stack of model related material. I have a specific attraction stack for
ballet dancers, and I'm putting one together for models right now.

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they are a stripper are usually a prostitute. So that's my chart. Cool huh?
Actress = waitress
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What restaurant did you say you work at?"


I had to change it a bit, because I didn't want her to say she's a stripper and
then I have to tell her she's a prostitute. That would NOT work. So I took that
part out.
The conversion chart was the clincher. It led into this exchange.

Girl: "No I'm not a waitress. I'm on this website www.blahblah.com"


Brad P: "I've never heard of that website in my life."
Girl: "Yeah, I really am. And I was a stripper too, until tonight."
Brad P: "C'mon just tell what restaurant you work at."
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Girl: (After much resistance and insisting she's a model) OK I was


working at Bennigans, until just last month.
Brad P: "Aha! I knew it!"
Now things are heating up, physical escalation is going like crazy, and she's
got that crazy attracted look in her eye. But I keep using attract routines on
her anyway. I drop my secret sex toys routine, obvious BS routines, tons of
cocky stuff.
Then she tells me she thinks I'm full of shit. Now I've retrained so much
self talk that my mind automatically changes things like that into a
compliment sometimes in loud environments like this one. I thought she said
"You're the shit." So I told her yeah, I know I'm the shit. She says NO YOU'RE
FULL OF SHIT! I tell her you can say that all you want but you fucking love it.
You are so into me.
Brad has an interesting philosophy on congruence tests. Instead of
worrying about coming up with specific answers for tests, he suggest that you
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Now we start making out, but I really don't even care how far it goes. I
keep stopping her and telling her BAD GIRL! NAUGHTY GIRL! Then I pump
with more attraction stuff. I know it sounds like there's no reason to be
running attraction routines here, but just stay with me here. This is not a girl
who needs comfort to fuck someone. She needs attraction and confusion.
It is vitally important that you start to stereotype girls as you are
interacting with them. The more you can figure out what type of girl she is,
the easier it will be to figure out what she needs to move to the next phase of
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concept and maybe if we get to know each other someday I'll tell you the
whole thing. If you're smart. She's badgering me about it. I tell her it's
probably over her head, but just don't worry about it.
MORE MAKING OUT

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A girl sees a guy walking through the club with a skateboard. She says
"What kind of a moron brings a skateboard to a club." I say "Yeah, what a
fucking asshole!"
Then I say "Come here, wanna see my skateboard." It actually came out all
porno-style "Wanna see my... uh... skateboard?" She says "NO WAY, you
don't actually have one here."
I drag her into the back where I had my skateboard. Actually I was trying
to isolate further and fuck this girl. But there were too many people back
there. She says "No, that's not yours, you just saw it there." We leave and
she's still not sure whether it's mine or not. I never want them to be too sure
of anything. Anything could be a joke.
MORE MAKING OUT
She says I'm probably as conceded as she is and I agree. I go serious for a
moment and tell her it's good to be confident but it's not trendy
causeall
these rock bands sing about being a loser and having no clue with girls, like
Blink 182. She agrees. I say "Look around. We're the coolest people in here
without a doubt. I just get sick
of people staring at me sometimes for that. I thought if I sat here with you
maybe they'd look at you and not me, but it's not working."
MORE MAKING OUT
This is a great whole room destroying routine. If you can get the girl to
agree that the two of you are the coolest people in the place. Half of your
work is done.
Then I go into this new thing I'm working on where I speak as if I'm
coming from the perspective of a REALLY good looking guy. Like a male
model. The theory here is you have to show these really hot girls you're in a
similar reality. But it's hard if you're not super good looking. I'd say I'm
average or slightly above, but not like a male model.
However, being "good looking" is a perception, not a reality. And
perceptions can be changed. In this case I'm in a very dark room. I know my
body language is super tight. My style and clothing are fucking sexy. This girl
is a little drunk. I have status and social proof.

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She's attracted to me. I can start talking like I'm absolutely gorgeous (subcommunicating of course) and it will probably fly. Not bragging, actually being
humble. But being humble the way a great looking guy would be humble.
Does that make sense? This technique is still in development, so I can't
explain it that well yet. Here's how it took shape in this caseBradP: "So if a guy on the train says you look like a model and he wants to
take your picture, it's not a good move right? It's probably just someone that
wants to fuck you or get $800 for a portfolio shot. Right?"
Girl: "Right, it's a bad move. I have that happen like every day, jackasses on
the train all the time. When I was younger it was these guys in the mall. I was
#15 finalist on America's top model (or some shit) and all these people
wanted to take my picture. But I didn't do it because you know they always
want something in return."

BradP: "Yeah, I think I know what they want in return."


Girl: "See what you should do is go to X modeling agency this Tuesday
for the open call, you'll do great."
BradP: "Nah, I don't think I really look like a model."
Girl:"Sure you do. You're tall. You're fucking gorgeous. You should do
it."
Brad P: "I don't know, maybe if it was a lot of money I'd do it. I think it
might have been just some gay guy who wants to fuck me, ya
know."
Notice I did not TELL this girl that a guy on the train came up to me and
wanted me to model; she just assumed it because I posed it as a hypothetical
question. She filled in the blanks because she was SO attracted to me. Hence I
must be SO attractive. I didn't come right out with it, but later in the
conversation I did elude to the fact that it actually happened, after she was
sold on me being the hottest thing ever.
That's sub- communication. It's subtle, and it leads to massive interest in
this case. I will explain this one better when I have it worked out more if that's
not making sense. Then we make out some more and I keep stopping her. I
get a bit aggressive with her too. Pull her hair, bite her neck. Just to let her
know that I'm a crazy fuck and I will tear her up. But I still really don't care if
I bang this girl. She decides to go for broke. How do you like this one???
Girl: "I don't mean for this to sound slutty or anything, but maybe you could
come into the bathroom with me, just for like 10 minutes??"

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The key here is to not act like you just won the lottery. Act like its normal!
Then I almost fucked up. I'm thinking I wanna get this girl in
the rotation;
I'm way ahead of myself.

BP: "Ok just one thing, I wanna take your number down...."
I realize that's a fuck up. She wants to fuck, I'm thinking about a fucking
phone number???? hellooooo??? Earth to Brad P!!! Without breaking stride I
fix the fuck up.

BP: "Ok just one thing, I wanna take your number down
.......afterwards, if you're any good."
OK almost blew it right there. But I fixed it. Phew! We start walking
upstairs to the bathroom. She asks if I "have something for that" (aka
condom). I say yes. I know I have my very last one in my wallet.
Side note on the logistics of bathroom club fucking. In NYC its hard
cause
there's always a line. In this case, there's three bathrooms upstairs and the
upstairs room is closed because its 4:15. We can still sneak in though.
There's not really anyone in there, no music on, but you have to walk
through there to get out. I've been having a lot of problems getting my
bathroom fuck on in NY
causeof this situation with long lines. Here's the way
to do it- wait till the end of the night. I don't know why I didn't think of that
earlier. When everyone is
almost gone it's the best time. Remaining girls are pretty horny at that time
anyway.
Almost everyone is gone... EXCEPT the obnoxious chick and her crew!
She CAN cock-block me. I did just nail her roommate and this is her best
friend I'm about to plow. She calls the model chick over and they're talking,
but the model chick is in a rush to get with me. They're talking about
mundane logistical party girl shit.
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"Where are my keys? Where's my phone!" Shit like that. I'm just waiting in
the bathroom hallway. I don't want to end up in a conversation with the
obnoxious chick! The model chick breaks free. We get into the bathroom and
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The toilet seat is nasty. We start the RAPID escalation. I have her blow me but
she's half-assing it. She takes a good hard look at my cock. You know they
train girls to inspect your cock for sores these days? I saw it on Dr. Ruth.
That's what she was doing.
HeHe! ... Barely any head, she just kind of spits on it. So I reach for the
pussy and whack it to get hard. She wants me to sit on the seat and she'll get
on top of me, but I tell her I'm gonna fuck her standing up
causeshe's tall
enough. I get behind her and start fucking away. I'm like 4 minutes in when
there's a loud knock on the door. It's the obnoxious chick. She's yelling and
trying to have a full on conversation, while we fuck about where's the keys
and purses and shit.
I can't believe this. It's the 2nd time this week she interrupted me!! But I
locked the door. The obnoxious chick: "I don't care what's going on in there;
just give me your keys!" She pushes the door so hard it flies open. I pull out
and this girl is grabbing the purse and she takes a quick glance at my cock.
Condom is all half slid off
causein the commotion I blew a load!
Isn't it interesting that whenever you're getting interrupted, your body
responds by blowing a load? That's what happens to me anyway. The
interruption gets me slightly nervous and freaked out. And I bust right away. I
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tell her I blew a load, but to just hang out another minute and I'll make her
come for sure. I start fingering. She has her back up against the wall and she
is playing with her own clit like crazy. She says "can you use another finger?"
So I put in my ring finger instead of the middle (duh). She says, "no two
fingers." Ha, Ha, Ha! So I have two fingers in and she's asking for another. So
I put my pinky in. I have a cut/hangnail thing going on with my index finger
so I can't use that.

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This girl
s is asking for more and more fingers, I'm thinking she might ask
to be fisted, but she doesn't. My friend who's a sick natural (The Pheromone
Kid) fists girls all the time. He's in my head saying 'FIST HER!" Ha Ha, like
Mortal Combat, "Finish her!" But I just stay with three fingers and she comes
after a few minutes.
Now for the wrap up, I have to say this girl is well versed in the protocols
of one night stand and bathroom fucking. She's kind of surprised I even
bother talking to her afterwards. She says that it was nice that I made her
come too. It was "gentleman-like." I say "Hey, that's just about having
morals. You got to make the girl come, even if it is a bathroom." I hang with
her for a few minutes. I take her number.
She says "You don't have to if you don't want to." She says "You don't
have to be nice to me, you can go if you want." I tell her I'm not in a rush. I
was being nice to her at that point, because I just felt like it. I get in a really
good mood after sex. And she was too. We high-fived.
She can't find her friends so I stayed with her to look. She's totally getting
turned off by me being gentleman-like. But, I really don't care. I just fucked
this girl, why do I need to pump attraction anymore?
I'll be nice if I fucking feel like it. I bet she was just scared I would get all
needy and act like we're going out. Some guys probably do that after a
bathroom fuck. But, we found her other friends. These girls are so casual
about talking about sex. She says to them "yeah it was really good" as I hover
outside their social circle.
Also, the obnoxious chick tells her after the fact that I've been banging the
roommate. So the model chick calls me on it. "I just found out you did one of
my friends the other day." Now, this is great because with these kind of girls
you need scumbag appeal. I tell her "Yeah I did, so what?" I may work a
threesome with this crew of girls.
I take off and head home. I'm thinking maybe I really should just bang
every chick the obnoxious chick hangs out with. Maybe I should bang all the
girls on that website. I looked at it when I got home and there's like 50 girls.
That will take a while.

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SOME ANALYSIS
Poor state at the beginning of the night has not been hurting me. My game
just carries me as the night goes on. This fuck was easy because I had peer
group and status.
I think I've written 20 or so lay reports on here since September and I
usually get ass purely off cold approaches, because it's more educational to
me. I think maybe I will be more open minded to non-cold-approach stuff
because it is educational in its own way.
I did get to work on my new stuff like the good looking guy routine. I guess
I just like doing it the old fashion way.
Cold approach lays really test your frame and skill set more I think. Peer
group/status related lays I think you will generally end up with some easier
lays and some more high quality girls.
Going out late has been cool. I've been rolling into parties at 2am all the
time and banging a girl usually by 4 or 5am. This girl I'd say it took about an
hour or so from meet to fuck. But there was only about 30 minutes of
interaction, the rest of the time was when she was creeped and I was flirting
with the blond. I'm developing lots of new stuff right now. More to come!

JIZZ SHOE BRAD: BRAD P


The other night I was out with a few friends and I executed a picture
perfect bathroom pull, in the style of The Pheromone Kid Got into some other
interesting situations as well.
The Pheremone Kid is a natural that routinely seduces women in public
restrooms in 5-10 minutes.
You can check out his interview with Brad at www.BradPpresents.com
The bar I was at was a gay bar, a few of my friends are gay and some are
straight as well. So I usually end up in a gay bar a few times a year with these
folks.
There are always a few good straight girls in gay bars, and the atmosphere
is more sexually liberal than other bars, so you get less anti slut resistance.

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There's also less bitchy girls because the chicks aren't getting hit on by
dorks all night long. These days having a few gay friends gets you coolness
points - for girls and guys. It's just so trendy to be gay.
I come in with friends and two new chicks, college girls, who I'm starting to
game. I'm getting some good attraction off them using my usual ball busting
shit. These college girls are ready to venue change 15 minutes in and go over
to the loud college bar. I'm about to leave with them, but then I realize the
place I'm at is easier to work.
It's quieter, easier peer groups, and I have the extra coolness of having
gay friends. So I decide to stay at the gay bar. I see a chick who waitresses at
the strip club we were at the night before. Chat with her a bit about how she's
at a bar on her night off, which means she's obviously an alcoholic.
As I'm talking to her, the 2 girls next to her approach me with "Hey do you
like this video"- some Madonna video. I talk with them a bit and I start
bouncing back and forth between the 2 groups. Sometimes it's good to merge
them together, but in this case I decided it's better to have them compete for
a while, then I merged them.
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The girls gave a cold greeting to each other, and they're competitive
already. This amount of social proof really started the set off in the right
direction. I touched both girls quite a bit and we started talking about all sorts
of sexual topics. Dildos, masturbation, deepspot/g-spot, stuff like that.
You have to be careful about how you handle sexual topics like this. If the
girl brings them up too early on, it can be a test. However if you bring them
up and the girls are interested in talking about them, keep escalating the
interaction. Here the girls are obviously into it.
After about 15 minutes of that I told the girls to come into the bathroom
with me. They didn't freak but they didn't take me up on it either. It was
because there was 2 of them. I've pulled this off before with 2 girls, but this
time they didn't go for it. So while one of them was distracted talking to my
friend, I pulled the other girl
by the hand and into the bathroom we went.

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Guys often spend too much time over-thinking things like how to get girls
into the bathroom. As Brad demonstrates here sometimes to get girls into the
bathroom, all you have to do is try for it.
Let me tell you, from there it was just awesome. I do a pretty fair amount
of bathroom sex, and I can tell you it has its drawbacks- people walking in and
out, no privacy. The stalls don't have a lock, sometimes the stall doesn't even
have a door!!
In this case it was the perfect set up. The ladies room had a few fully
closed off toilet rooms. So no one would be knocking, because there were
others available. It was almost like having my own little hotel room. Leave it
to the gay people to get bathroom sex perfected.
We get in there and I have the girl watching me whack it, three minutes in
she just couldn't take it anymore and she started blowing me. Wow she was
so into it. She was moaning and squinting her eyes. I started dirty talking her
"yeah that's a good girl, suck that cock." I held her head back by the hair and
blew a load right into her mouth. Man there's just something amazing about
meeting a 19 year old girl and then 20 minutes later you're watching streams
of semen flying into her mouth. She loved it! But she didn't swallow, she was
dripping it all over her and little did I know she dripped a big old pile of jizz on
my shoe.
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and had her rub her own clit. After about 4 minutes of that she started
squirting all over the place. Damn!
It was her first time squirting and she didn't really know what was going
on. We cleaned up and I told her we'll go out separate so no one would know
what happened.
In a situation like this it is always extremely important that the girl does
not get caught! We cannot have her looking like a slut or feeling bad in any
way.
She went out and rejoined her friend, but she had jizz on her and the friend
noticed it. It was a sweater she had borrowed from the friend, and there were
a few drops on it. OOPS!

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To make matters worse, I was walking around the whole place with jizz on
my left shoe. I had no idea. I was walking around talking to people like
everything was totally normal. I was talking to this British guy when I noticed,
and I quickly put my foot under the table. Then I wrapped up the conversation
and made a bee-line for
the bathroom to wash off my shoe.
I checked back in with the girl after that and she was having a small case
of buyer's remorse. She said "Hey I didn't want you to think I'm a slut." I told
her "I think that you're amazing for having that adventure with me and you
shouldn't worry about that. I'd love to have a whole night in a bed with you.
Now that would be hot."
She agreed and we were going meet up later. I already had her number.
She ended up telling the friend how I made her squirt for the first time and at
that point it looked like a threesome was brewing. But the friend was kind of
ADD, and I got distracted with other girls.
A few of my friends caught on to what had happen and they were so
amazed that they started asking me to do some approaches so they could
watch. This one girl wanted to be my wing woman, and she would just drag
chicks over to me and say "This is Brad, he's the hottest guy here." The chicks
would look at me all shy and shit. One was really hot, but she had a boyfriend
so I nixed her
.
I started working these two hippie chicks. They were throwing MASSIVE
indicators of interest like "Wow you're amazing, can we go on a date?" I know
this sounds crazy, but here's the deal... They were on happy-happy drugs.
They loved everything in life. I flirted with them for a bit, but I was planning
on leaving for a threesome with the other girls. But I waited too long and lost
track of them. They left without me.
They were over matched by the high energy of the hippie chicks, so they
didn't even try to compete or say good bye. They were totally intimidated.
Here's something funny. I took both their numbers before the bathroom
festivities. Then later when I tried to call, one was a home number and one
was a wacky beeping signal. There was actually no way we could meet up,
neither one gave me their cell phone number. WTF?
The moral of the story is that you're better off escalating and getting a
blowjob right away if possible. Sometimes that's a better plan than venue
changing and going for the same day pull.
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I tried calling them, but when it didn't work I decided to keep working the
hippie chicks. They were asking me to come home with them and do drugs,
but I don't do drugs. I made up for it by saying I have the munchies really
bad. So we went to their place a few blocks away. They were throwing truly
grandiose indicators of interest like "This is the best night of my LIFE! I can't
believe we met you!" I mirrored the indicators of interest back. But I knew
they were way fucked up so I didn't read too much into it.
Back at their place, I played the guitar and the 2 girls sang jazz songs. It
was a blast. One of the girls walked in on me taking a pee and watched. She
said "Hey open the door, let me watch." That was funny. I had both of them
on the couch and we were cuddling like crazy. Then all of the sudden the
mood changed completely. They got sleepy and bitchy in less than 10
seconds. They gave each other that funny look, had a bathroom meeting, and
then came and said "Uh yeah, we got to walk you out."
For a second I thought maybe I did something wrong, but then I realized
they were crashing from the drugs. I don't know what they were on, but
whatever it was they were crashing hard from it ... maybe ecstasy?
I was kind of annoyed, but I didn't fight
minutes later I realized it was an awesome
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This is the risk you run anytime you deal with chicks who use drugs. It can
go really good or really bad. I've had some of the best lays and even
threesomes when the chicks are in this party/druggie vibe. But other times it
can just blow up in your face. Would I do it again? Of course! But I would have
made sure I didn't lose the other two girls.
OK now don't everyone start running for the gay bar at once. You really
should go with gay friends or it's just weird to pick up girls at a gay bar. But if
you have the gay friends and you go, it's a secret society. A normal chump
would be too homophobic to be around gay people, so you get a bit of higher
value just by being there and being accepted.
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LR: SNL BDSM IN A BATHROOM: DOC HOLLIDAY


Fuck yeah! I have three acronyms in the title of this report!
I go to a party on Friday night. I get there and like usual it hasn't really
picked up yet. I have a habit of showing up early. I flirt with the girl at the
door and leave to go buy a pack of cigarettes. Fast forward 20 minutes
I come back and there's a girl hanging up her coat. We can call her HB:
Butterfly. I make eye contact with her and smile.

Doc: How's it going?


Butterfly: -shrugs- Blah -She really said blah, this is not code for
illusionary feedbackDoc: Wow, that good huh?
Butterfly: Yeah, I rode my bike here and I'm tired now.
I just want to point out how fucking hippie the city that I live in is. This girl
rode her bike to a party at 11pm because it's the environmentally friendly
thing to do.
I talk to her for another couple minutes and move on.
I talk to one of the guys who lives at the house and he introduces me to
another guy who is DJing later on. They're both really cool guys, but dudes
aren't my mission. What the fuck am I talking about I never have a mission.
I get a text message from El Topo and sit down on a table to reply to it.
I look up after finishing the text and there's a really cute girl looking in my
direction. She's about 5'4", 120lbs, girl next door look, and has nothing about
her that would give me any indication as to what I was getting myself into. We
can call her HB: BDSM. I smile at her and wave her over.

Doc: Hey, what's going on?


BDSM: Do you remember me?
Doc: (Looks her up and down) Ummmmm, no.
BDSM: I was at _______ last month and I said hi to you.
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Doc: Oh cool, I'm really bad with names, and probably won't remember
your name after you tell me what it is again.
BDSM: Haha, I'm _______
Doc: I'm _______
At this point our heads are right next to a sub woofer and I move her to a
quieter corner.
I ask her what she does and then go into some of my grounding stuff. HB:
Butterfly walks over and reopens me. BDSM and Butterfly are fighting for my
attention at this point and I make a decision as to who I want to pursue.
Jealousy and competition lead to fast lays. The quickest lays happen when
two or three girls are fighting over you and one decides to fuck you to make
sure she wins.
BDSM is the better looking of the two but I have no idea how she got there
and just looks so sweet and innocent. Butterfly is a low 7, looks like she wants
to fuck, and rode her bike here. I forgot to ask if she had pegs... I'm tempted
to go for butterfly just because of how hilarious the LR would be. She could
give me a ride on her handlebars back to my house to smoke hookah and
after I fucked her so hard she couldn't walk she'd have to pedal home. Then I
step back into reality and realize how much hotter and cooler BDSM is.
I block Butterfly off with my body language and move BDSM to get drinks.
She doesn't like beer, there is only tequila and Goldschlger, and the only
mixers are Red Bull or Tonic. She grabs a Red Bull and pours it and
Goldschlger into a cup... Eew!.
She asks if I remember her name and through some act of faith I do. I ask
her mine and she gets it wrong. I tell her we're through and body rock away
from her. She grabs me and pulls me back in. I tell her I'm going to test her
again in 10 minutes and she asks what happens if she gets it wrong in a
seductive voice. I tell she needs to stop talking that way or I'll be forced to do
dirty things to her.
She bites her lip and smiles. I pull her in and we make out. She plays with
my lip ring a little too much and apologizes and says she likes metal and has
an oral fixation.

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I'm not expecting any of this from this girl. She looks about 5 years
younger than she actually is and is seriously one of the most innocent looking
women I've ever met. The dichotomy of it is really hot. I tell her I won't tell
her about any of my other piercings that can go in her mouth... Somehow
after about 30 seconds she gets it out of me.
I move her upstairs and some random gay guy comes up and starts hitting
on me. I'm friendly but blow him off and we sit down on a couch.

Doc: That guy wanted to take me home


BDSM: That seems to be the theme tonight. (We make out some more
and I go the pull.)
Doc: Let's go for a walk
BDSM: Not yet
We keep making out and some Russian guy who she knows comes over
and sits down. They talk real quick, gives him a key chain, and she kisses him
as he leaves. Not really making out but there was obviously something there.

BDSM: So, I have to tell you, I'm kind of seeing some other people right
now... but we're all really open... and... Well I don't really do the
monogamous thing.
I'm wondering why I'm getting this, I may have set something off with the
deep comfort style of game I've been running lately but I hadn't gone too far
with her yet.

Doc: That's cool, I'm seeing two other people right now and we're open
about everything.
BDSM: Yeah most people in the community aren't
Doc: -I almost choke- Community?
BDSM: Yeah like bondage and stuff
I'm tempted to start telling her how I'm in a community and how we're not
monogamous either but I hold myself back.

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I want to try and go for the pull again and get up to move her. We go back
downstairs and I take her through this weird revolving door thing. It's
basically like something you'd see in a fun house, you get in, spin it, and you
come out on the other side. The people at this house have some really cool
shit.
This is move # 3: movement is another key to making fast lays happen.
Movement is also the only true test for attraction. Girls will NOT move with
a guy she is attracted to.
You
r
et
wodef
aul
topt
i
onswhenyoudon
tknow whatt
o in set, should be:
Try to qualify her.
Try to move her
I get her in it with me and spin it half way so it's stuck and completely dark
inside.
We make out and I put her hand on my cock. She's really aggressive and I
decide to just whip it out. Her hand goes right for it but I want to see how far I
can push the interaction right in this door. I grab her head and push her down
a little, she's reluctant but I push a little harder and she gets down and starts
to blow me.
People are getting pissed that we're blocking the door and I tell her we
need to go somewhere more private. I try to go for the front door but she tells
me the Russian guy pulled some girl back to her car and I had taken the train
there.
We keep talking and I say I have to use the bathroom. There's someone in
it but no line. The door opens and I push her into it and start making out. I
reach behind her back, open the door, and lead her inside.
I'm wondering if I can really fuck her right here in the bathroom. She's
wearing jeans and I'm not sure if I can get her out of them. Every girl should
be required to wear a skirt!
She starts getting really rough by biting me and using her nails I get even
rougher with her I take my dick back out and her mouth goes right for it. She
gives great head. It's not very often that I meet a girl who can deep throat
me.
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I grab the back of her hair and pull her up and bend her over the toilet, she
unbuttons her pants and takes one of her legs out of them and spreads her
legs. I put on a condom and stick it in her.
The whole time I'm fucking her I'm thinking about sticking her head in the
toilet and giving her a swirly. Thanks El Topo you Tranny fucking mother
fucker!
We finish pretty quickly and hang out for another 30 minutes until the
Russian guy comes back.
I get her number and go to smoke a cigarette. The Russian follows me
outside and tells me that BDSM really likes me and to not worry about him
and if I ever want to we can tag team her. I think back to talking to Sinn
about pig roasting chicks about 4 hours earlier.
I've missed the last train at this point and have about an hour and a half
until Saffron can come and pick me up. I walk back towards the bathroom.
I see a girl standing alone and I decide to fuck around

Doc: Are you on your period?


HB: -Shocked- ... I was yesterday
Doc: Fuck! I missed it by 24 hours! I don't want to talk to you
anymore
HB: HAHA! You like that?
Doc: I love it
We talk for another couple minutes, I bite my lip ring, and she mirrors me.
I go in for the kiss and we make out for like 30 seconds before one of her
friends flips out and pulls her away from me. I know her friend and she thinks
I'm some super player.
I guess that shows that you can open with anything, including menstrual
blood.

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I continue to the bathroom and there is one girl in line. She's super tiny,
like 4'10", 90lbs, and cute. She leaning against the wall in this super
exaggerated PUA
sesquire locking in type of position. I tease her about it and
lock in even more exaggerated than she is. The door opens and she goes in.
She comes out a minute later and tells me to keep the position.
I walk by her, two dudes, and another girl about 30 minutes later and she
smiles at me. She's standing in the same position again.

Doc: How's that position treating you?


Short: It's a good position
Doc: They're all good positions
Short: Ha! Ha! Ha! You have a favorite?
Doc: That's tough but I can tell you like it rough
Short: laughs and says something about sex positions
A few minutes later she tells me I'm really cute and I make out with her. I
had decided I was in blow me or blow me out mode because I had about 45
minutes until Saffron showed up.
We make out, I grab her ass, and she grabs my dick. I go under her skirt
and rub her pussy. She goes into my jeans and feels my dick. "What are you
doing to me? She replies "Something good" I go under her thong and finger
her.
She realizes all her friends have left after another couple minutes and
freaks out trying to find them.
I open a few more sets but nothing really goes anywhere. I see the short
girl coming out of the bathroom right before I'm about to leave and if I had
been there about two minutes earlier I'm pretty sure I could have fucked her
in the bathroom just by leading.
She leaves in the arms of one of her social circle guy friends. Sinn broke it
down really well the next day by saying how some girls will have issues with
fucking new guys but love getting all fired up with one and then going home
with some guy they know. I hope I got that guy laid that night

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I
t

st
r
ueof
t
ent
i
mesgi
r
l
swi
l
lf
l
i
r
tout
si
det
hei
rsoci
alci
r
cl
es,butdon
twant
the stigma of fucking a random guy. So they go back and fuck some guy
who
spar
toft
hei
rsoci
alci
r
cl
e.Thi
si
soneofmanyr
easonst
obui
l
dasoci
al
circle.
Saffron shows up and we go and get McDonalds... I love 24 hour drive
thru.
To learn more about Doc Holliday check out his blog at
www.Dochollidaypua.com

BJR: WANNA WATCH ME JERK OFF IN THE BATHROOM:


SINN
Prepare to shield your eyes and stop reading if you are easily offended.
Seriously, this will be an offensive article. So if you are going to bitch or leave
an annoying comment, please skip this article.
I was a little more reactive when I wrote this :p Plus my dad had just started
reading my blog. To read it yourself go to www.Sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com
So lately I have been focused more on quick escalation game; mostly,
because I have been on the road 10 of the last 11 weekends. I t
hi
nkI

vebeen
in LA for the weekend once in three months. So I am all about trying to
escalate for SNLs and in the club sex. My experimentation has led to a bunch
of one night stands, but a complete failure to have sex in the venue, until last
night.
Brad P posted about a friend of his who could get blowjobs in clubs all the
t
i
mebyaski
nggi
r
l
si
ft
heywant
edt
owat
chhi
m
t
akecar
eofhi
msel
f
.
Sof
or
kicks I had been field-testing this, and complaini
ngt
hati
tdi
dn
twor
k,
because for the first 100 sometimes the girls just laughed.
Then Savoy told me he talked to Brad and he said the key was to look for
sexual looking lone wolves and wait for them by the bathroom. Kind of creepy!
He also said that a lot of the time they just watch him jerk it. So it still
sounded iffy but at least a little less so.
This is an idea that I feel has really helped my development in the game. I
always field test EVERYTHING. Especially if it sounds stupid or like it doesn
t

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wor
k.Ther
easoni
syouneverknow.Sodon
tbeaf
r
ai
dt
ot
r
yanyt
hi
ngyou
r
ead.Thewor
stt
hi
ngt
hatcanhappeni
si
twon
twor
k.
Last night as the Vancouver BC is ending I find myself in line next to a girl,
and she gives me a look. I say:
Don
tworry I won
tbet
ool
ongI

mj
ustgoi
ng
t
ot
akecar
eofmysel
f
.Youwannawat
ch?
She says yes and we go into the bathroom together, I actually had to pee
though so I did with her in there and then I try to escalate and leave. Turns
out she was an obstacl
ei
nasetast
udentwaswor
ki
ng.I
t

sar
oundtwo so we
round everyone up and start to debrief, we go outside of the club (Republic in
caseyou
r
ewonder
i
ngwher
et
hi
st
ookpl
ace)andshehappenst
obeoutt
oo
smoking with Instructor X.
I run some huge cock game including the term hitting her in the face with
af
r
ozenr
ope shel
eavesbysayi
ng
MaybeI

l
lseeyoui
nabat
hr
oom
somet
i
me
.I immediately recognize this as buying signal, and wait for her to
go before I too head inside. I find her at the table with her friends who inform
met
hatshe
sgayanddr
unk.Shehadpr
evi
ousl
yt
ol
dmeshehadnotbeen
drinking and as a drunk guy, I can tell when people are drunk.
The key here in my mind is that I di
dn
ti
mmedi
at
el
yf
ol
l
ow heri
nwhenshe
made the comment about running into me in the bathroom. If I had left or
tried to pull her in immediately after that I would have telegraphed a ton of
sexual neediness and blown the entire thing.
I grab the girl by the arm and drag her to the bathroom, telling her friend
that it is my job to drag her away and her job to stop me: credit Savoy. We
get to the bathroom line and I make out with her on a pinball machine then in
a dark storeroom before we get in line for the bathroom.
Her friend re-appears and tells me she is going home with her. I agree, and
say we are just going to the bathroom. The door opens and my girl and the
obstacle have a discussion as to who is going home with whom, before the
obstacle starts to leave. And, I go into the bathroom with the girl. Shove
against the wall and removal of bottoms ensues. I try to go for the gold but I
end up with a bathroom BJ.
This was a pretty funny situation as the girl had already made the decision
to fool around with me in the bathroom. So her friend was basically sitting
there as she was about go into the bathroom with a guy she met in the last 30

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minutes. The obstacle was distraught and her only recourse was to tell me the
girl was leaving with her. Later the girl tried to leave with me but I bounced.
So far the masturbate watch technique is 1 for about a hundred, but the
amountofef
f
or
tal
mostmakesi
twor
t
hi
t
.Pl
usi
t

soneoft
hoset
hi
ngst
hat
show youar
ej
ustf
ucki
ngwi
t
ht
heseti
ft
heydon
tt
akei
t
.I have yet to get a
bad reaction from that line.
Si
ncet
hi
spostI

veusedt
het
echni
quesuccessf
ul
l
ysever
almor
et
i
mes.I
t

s
all in the delivery. If you say it too early or too playfully, it comes off as a
cocky funny line. The key is to mix perverted vibe with nice guy vibe.

IN VENUE LAYS BREAKDOWN:


IVL
s can be a complicated thing. There are a variety of obstacl
est
oI
VL
s,
not the least of which are obstacles in the set, bathroom attendants and the
gi
r
l

sownant
i
-slut defense.
Sol
et

st
al
kaboutsomewayst
omakeI
VL
shappen. The first thing you
want to do is be aware of the in venue logistics. That means knowing where all
the bathrooms in the venue are. It also means making note of stairways, ice
r
ooms,r
oof
s,et
c
Asyousaw i
noneofBr
ad
sr
epor
t
s,youmaywantt
owai
tt
i
ll later in the
night when certain parts of the venue are closed, and there are not many
people around.
Whenyou
r
ei
nvest
i
gat
i
ngt
hebat
hr
oomsbeawar
eofat
t
endant
s.Mostof
the time you can bribe these guys - i
fi
t

sget
t
i
ngon enough with the girl. The
following is a good tip I picked up from Savoy, instead of asking if you can
bring a girl into the bathroom, ask him if you can give him whatever amount
ofmoneyyou
r
et
r
yi
ngt
obr
i
behi
m wi
t
h(usually $20). Once he takes the
money, you can pull the girl into the bathroom.
The next thing to thi
nkabouti
swheni
tcomest
oI
VL
sis getting the girl
into a private location. There are two general strategies to getting girls into
the bathroom. The first one involves letting the girl know you guys are
heading into the bathroom. There are a variety of ways to do this from telling
heryou
r
egoi
ngt
ogot
akecar
eofyour
sel
fi
nt
hebat
hr
oom,t
oaski
nghert
o
dance in the bathroom, to saying you guys are going to pee together.

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There are risks and rewards with this style as you can blow yourself out of
set
sbybei
ng
cr
eepywhenyousuggestgoi
ngt
ot
hebat
hr
oom.Ther
ewar
d
oft
hi
swheni
twor
ks,i
st
hatwheni
tdoeswor
ki
t

smuchmor
eon.Andt
her
e
s
no chance of her freaking out because you guys are going into the bathroom
together.
The second way to get girls into the bathroom, is to move them without
t
el
l
i
ngt
hem wher
eyou
r
egoi
ng.I
ft
hegi
r
l
sask,youcanal
waysrespond with
t
hecl
assi
cl
i
ne.
A little place I l
i
ket
ocal
l
,you
l
lsee.
Thenonce you pull the
girl into the bathroom you can escalate immediately. This works better after
you have already made out with her.
There are a few different ways to get girls out of the venue into a private
location. The easiest way is to complain about something and suggest moving
outside. It can be too hot, too loud etc. You can also suggest going for a walk
or a cigarette. If you drove to the venue, and want to use your car for sex you
can also have to grab something from the car. The idea is to simply provide a
logical reason to move outside so you can escalate without people being able
to see.
Last
l
yl
et

st
al
kaboutt
hemosti
mpor
t
antfactor in getting in venue lays,
balls.
Wheni
t

sonyouhavet
obewi
l
l
i
ngandable to pull the trigger. In fact, I
would go so far as to say that you will be blown out more often for not
escalating, than you will for over-escalating.
Youwi
l
lnevergeti
nvenuel
aysi
fyoudon
tt
r
yt
ogett
hegi
r
l
si
nt
opr
i
vat
e
locations. Only by trying for these isolations, will you be able to develop a feel
for when the right time is. You will be surprised at how fast you can get into
sexual situations with girls you just met. You just have to have the balls to try.

DAY GAME AND INTERNET


What is day game?
Day game refers to approaching women in any situation outside of a bar or
club.

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Every day you see tons of beautiful women as you go about your day. Be it
walking around your city or sitting at a Starbucks, you can meet amazing
women during the day.

LR: SAME DAY LAY, THE DIRTY WAY- DOC HOLLIDAY


I leave Project Boston around 7pm and get on the subway. About half way
t
hr
oughmyr
i
deacut
egi
r
lsqueez
esont
ot
het
r
ai
n.She
sabout5
3
,br
ownhai
r
,
green eyes, a good 7.
There had been a daytime Red Sox game and it had gotten out about 30
minutes before. So of course there are about 50 more people on the train than
t
her
es
houl
dbeandI

m wedgedi
nt
ot
hear
mpi
tofRedSoxf
an#763
sBi
gPapi
jersey.
I notice the girl checking out my reflection in the mirror of the train but there is
nowayi
nhel
lI

m goi
ngt
obeabl
et
omaneuv
erar
oundal
l
oft
hesepeopl
et
oopen
her.
I get off at my stop to switch trains and notice that she gets off behind me.
The loud speaker comes on and says there is a delay.
I make eye contact with her as the announcement is being made and roll my
eyes. She laughs. I say hi and introduce myself. We start talking and another
announc
ementcomesonandt
el
lev
er
y
onet
hatwe
r
egoi
ngt
ohav
et
ot
ak
eabus
and to go upstairs.
We walk outside t
oget
herandsi
tdownonabenc
h.We
r
emost
l
ymaki
ngsmal
l
talk about what we do and how much the subway sucks....thirty minutes later and
no bus. They tell us to all go back downstairs and that the problem is fixed and a
train will arrive shortly.
We go back downstairs and talk for another fifteen minutes until a train comes
and we get on. Here Doc actually gets helped out by the delay. Not only does he
get more time to talk to this girl, the speaker forces him and the girl to move
around a couple times and as we all know movement is key.
She starts giving me shit about something and I t
el
lheral
lwe
r
eev
ergoi
ngt
o
doi
sf
i
ghtandhav
ehotmakeupsex
.Shebl
ushesands
ay
s
Whos
ai
dwe
r
e
hav
i
ngsex
?
This is a concept I call assuming the relationship. By making a comment like

We
df
i
ghtal
lt
het
i
meandhav
ehotmakeupsex
.I
tassumest
hatt
her
ewi
l
lbea

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sex
ualr
el
at
i
ons
hi
pandi
tal
soassumest
hatbot
hofy
ouknowt
hi
s.I
t

sgr
eatt
o
move the interaction to this level as quickly as possible.
We
v
es
pentaboutanhourandahal
ft
al
ki
ngt
oeachot
heratt
hi
spoi
ntandI
canf
eelt
hes
ex
ualt
ensi
on.I
t

sabout9pm nowandI think I can pull off the same


day lay.
I get off at her stop saying it was mine and how crazy that we live near each
other. She mentions how it can be dangerous at night walking alone. I take the hint
and offer to take her home.
She lives about 20 minutes from the train station and I know I have to start
t
ouchi
nghermor
ei
fI

m goi
ngt
obeabl
et
opul
lt
hi
sof
f
.
I ass bump heraswe
r
ewal
ki
ngandshedoesi
tback.I grab her hand, spin
her around and start walking arm and arm. She rests her head on my shoulder.
This is one of my favorite check-in points to see how into me she is, she passes.
We start to hold hands and end up at her apartment. We sit down on her front
porch and talk for about 10 minutes. I t
el
lheri
t

sl
at
eandI have to get home soon
but I need to use her bathroom. Works every time!
Igeti
nsi
deandt
ak
eapi
ss.She
sst
andi
ngr
i
ghtneart
hedoorwhenI get out
and I give her a hug. I pull back and look her in the eyes and go in for the kiss.
We make out pretty hard and I push her against a door and she lets out a little
moan. I move her into the living room and onto a couch and she starts to rub my
thigh. I move her hand up to my cock and start to rub her pussy through her pants.
Shet
el
l
smeshe
sonherper
i
odbutwecandoot
hert
hi
ngs.I stand up, grab
the back of her hair and push her onto her knees. She undoes my pants and starts
to blow me.
After about 5 minutes and tell her we should move into her room.
I get her pants off and tell her I wantt
of
uckherbuts
he
sf
r
eaki
ngoutabout
her period. I try to plow through the LMR for about an hour. I try freeze outs, I try
building more comfort, I tryt
el
l
i
ngherI

m okwi
t
hherbei
ngonherper
i
odandt
hat
i
t

snat
ur
al
,I try to cave man her, I try everything. Nothing works.
I finally let her blow me until I cum.
We turn on Kill Bill and go to bed. I wake up hard a few hours later and poke
her in the back with it until she wakes up.

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She reaches her arm around her back and starts to play with it. I tell her I want
to fuck her and she gives me more period excuses.
I decide fuck it, what do I have to lose, and tell her I want to fuck her in the ass.
She gives a little token resistance but tells me there is lube in the drawer next to
her bed. I grab it and finger her ass for a couple minutes and start to fuck her.
When all else fails for LMR I j
ustl
i
ket
of
al
lasl
eepandei
t
hery
ou
l
lbot
hwake
up hor
nyi
nacoupl
eofhour
sandf
uckory
ou
l
lhav
esexi
nt
hemor
ni
ng.
In the morning we take a shower together and I finally get to fuck her pussy.
Mission accomplished.

To learn more about how to learn day game from Doc check out
www.practicalpickup.com

HE SAID/SHE SAID: A PERFECT PICKUP AND BOTH


SIDES OF THE STORY: SHAWN MESSENGER
A new kind of field report: His story and her story.
If you want to get the girl AND make her happy, you need to know what
she thinks, and what she feels. You need to know HER story.
I met my girlfriend one sunny afternoon in the city. I was in the middle of
teaching Art of Rapport I didn't know her, and she didn't know me, but after
10 minutes, we felt like we were supposed to know each other.
This is the story of how it happened.
mine:

Both sides of the story, hers and

Him: She is the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. Warm, honey skin, soft
brown eyes, long lashes, silky hair flowing under a funky cap, just a touch of
sparkly blue eye-shadow, and a sly smile under pillowy lips.
Her: First of all, let me tell you something about myself. I'm not your
typical shy, submissive Asian girl. On the contrary, guys are intimidated by
me. I'm very sensible and I'm very proud of my logical brain. Usually with
guys, I can sense the bullshit coming miles away. I tend to be very dismissive
of guys' so-called "lines." And I thought I was immune to pick-ups. That is,
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until I met Sean. He blew me away and I was just too taken aback to react
with my "logical brain." And one more thing, about the time that this
happened, I was a little upset about boys. The last thing I want is to date one.
Him: It's a crowded Sunday in a little caf in Union Square in San
Francisco. Workers are putting up the giant Christmas tree, and shoppers are
everywhere. It's not quiet, calm, and peaceful. People are jostling about, and
everyone can see everything. Perfect. Put this on display for all to see -- this is
exactly what I have prepared for.
Day time pick-ups can become spectacles. It is much more likely that
people are going to pay attention to you approaching a girl during the day. I
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Her: It was in November. I was really tired that day and I was dazed. I just
wanted to get my cafe mocha and sit. There were a lot of people in the little
cafe, standing in line, wanting to buy the pretty little pastries displayed on the
glass window. I remembered being a little annoyed with the crowd. So
crowded and loud, I just want to be away from the noise. I smiled at the guy
behind the counter and flirt a little. And then, off with my coffee.
Him: Get in line for food and keep looking at her. I fix her image in my
mind. I look away. Let the nerves build up. Feel it in my chest, in my heart. I
want this beautiful girl. I want her so much. I want her to have my kids, and
her kids, and walk hand-in-hand on the boardwalk on the beach, win her giant
stuffed animals for her at games of chance, snuggle on Sunday mornings, and
buy her sparkly things to make her smile. I let all the silly and wussy and
once-again-silly thoughts fill me up. I will use them as fuel.
Most guys try to ignore or fight their feelings of fear. Sean accepts them
and uses them to help his approach. A little bit of nervousness can be a good
thing in a pick-up. It keeps you from looking too smooth.
I will walk up to her, alone. I will have no pretext, no introduction, no
excuse. It will be her, and it will be me, and in this secret world, we will be. I
want the nerves. I want the fear. I want this to be hard. For a man who didn't
know what he was doing, that would make it impossible. For me -- for me it
makes it perfect.
Her: My friend was at the corner of the cafe, trying to find us seats. We
have to be like vultures; otherwise we have to sit outside drinking coffee in
the chilly November weather. We finally managed to find a nice square table
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tucked away in the corner of the cafe. I took the seat facing the window
outside with my back towards the line of people.
Him: My single 100%-perfect girl takes a seat at a table right behind me -with her 99%-perfect girl friend. She's here, now. I know from experience if I
leave now, without meeting her, it will wake me from a sound sleep when I
am old and grey, and the not knowing will haunt me like a ghost.
This is the reason a lot of us got into pick up. At least for me the haunting
image of a girl I wanted to approach, but was too scared to do it.
Fuck it. I have studied, practiced and worked at this for a reason. This girl
is the reason. She is the one that brought me here today. When you find the
princess, she will not be waiting for you on a bed made of Twinkies and tits.
She will be in a castle, guarded by a dragon, behind a wall of flames. Walk
through the flames.
I step out of line. Walk to her table. I feel every eye upon me. Stand at
their table. They both look up.
I say nothing. I don't worry about what to say. My hands are down, my
eyes are steady. I open my mouth.

"I was on my way out, and I saw you."


"I couldn't leave without meeting you. May I sit?"
Simple, direct and classy. A great day game approach.
Her: The second after we sat down, right before I opened my mouth to
chatter away, I felt a soft tap on my left shoulder. I looked up and saw this
big, white guy wearing a blue shirt looking down on me. The first thought that
flew to my mind, "hmm, maybe he wants the empty chair."
I smiled at him, ready to give the answer, "Yes, you can have the chair."
But, all the time, he kept holding my gaze and then moments later he uttered
the most unexpected words, "I was on my way outside"(Pause) and I saw you.
I just have to talk to you." (pause)... May I sit down?"
Him: They both stare at me. The room stares at me. I wait. She says yes. I
reach back to table behind me and grab a chair from another table without
asking. Is someone else using it? Not anymore. Chair bangs against other
chairs. It appears unsmooth, but I don't care.
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Her: The way he said it, it was so soft, and felt so genuine and his
expression, it didn't feel fake. I think my brain stopped working, because,
before I can think of anything to say, I felt my right arm gesturing to the
empty chair next to my right and said, "sure." He sat down and kept holding
my gaze, and didn't say anything. I felt very awkward and felt compelled to
say something first (keep in mind I have a friend who sat next to my left and
she had this shock expression on her face.and I know she won't say anything).
After the proper introduction, I asked him what he was doing?
Him: I sit. Look at her -- gently, but seeing her. I don't say anything. A
year passes. She asks, "so what are you doing today?"
Her I felt dream-like. My heart was beating faster and I kept trying to
think. I could not believe that this is happening, but, I was willing to give this
guy a chance. He told us about his goddaughter and showed us pictures of his
dogs. All the time, I felt comfortable and looking at him, I thought to myself
"hmm...this guys is cute and he has really nice eyes." however, I'm still not
sure where all this is going , and I can feel that my friend did not like what
was happening one bit. I can actually feel her being really cold to this
stranger.
Him: I mention something about Christmas shopping. Start talking normal
stuff. Introduce myself, they introduce themselves. Carrie and Lily. My internal
circuits are all afire, but I will not stop. That's how it works. I don't have to
keep going. I just have to Not. Stop.
You may not always be calm, cool and collected on the inside but you must
present that image externally to have any chance of success.
Carrie is from Indonesia. Lily is from Thailand. They live here now. I tell
them I teach dogs owners how to understand their dogs. They love dogs,
Golden Retrievers. I tell them how big the hearts of a Golden are, that they
are made of love. Time passes. I talk about the park near my house. Watching
sunset from the swings, and the cafe close by with the best hot chocolate in
the city.
Her: He told us that he just moved here from boston and that he lived by
the park on which hill you can climb and view san francisco city light. A few
minutes later, he said he had to go and then said that me and him should go
to that park together. I thought to myself, "Uh-uh, not so fast, dude"

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He tried to make me to say yes. But, I stubborny said "We'll see...we'll


see," and smiled sweetly at him. And finally he asked for my phone number.
Him: The air is heavy with this moment I feel the weight. Time to go. Tell
them so. Tell Gia to meet me at my house next week and we'll go to the park.
She agrees. Gives me her number. We hug, and her skin smells like summer.
Her: To this day, I still do not know why I gave him my number. It could be
that I sensed something about him or that I was carried away in the movie
moment. The feeling was indescribable. it felt surreal, it was pure emotions.
I stand. Legs still working. Nice surprise.
Walk out, slow, stunned. Kick-to-the-head stunned. My world is of muffled
sound, like under the sea, like leaving a Metallica show. Everything is slow and
gentle, everything is floaty.
Her: I still wasn't sure about him. Part of me hope so much for it to be
real, hope that he's not an asshole and really hope that he meant what he
said. However, He was nothing but sweet and genuine and funny for the next
few days we talked on the phone.
Talk twice over next week, flirty, funny, sexy. Normal topics too. School,
work, fun. She's coming over Saturday.
Her: I did try to talk myself out of this date, but I can't. The way he came
up to me like that, being so vulnerable and yet so strong, I just can't. This guy
is ballsy and I like that. I granted him one date. I thought, "What the hell, it
should be fun, I got free pizza."
Him: With two bottles of wine, one white, one red. With a dog treat for my
dog.
We will be as lovers who meet again and again, as the wheel does turn, as
it was meant to be.
Her: This month is our 7th month dating each other. I am very happy and
the story of how we met has been told many times. My friend and I still talk
about it. Every time I passed that little cafe, every time I drank my cafe
mocha, my mind always flew back to that moment. Its embedded forever in in
my heart.
To learn from Shawn go to www.LV03.com
Met her, seduced her, then banged her in the parking lot: In10se
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I thought I'd post a quick field report for you guys that just happened
tonight... I had an online chick meeting flake last minute so I went out to
study
The setting: Starbucks Coffee shop
It was about 730 pm and I had just sat down to study. Of course I picked a
location right next to an HB8.5 brunette... (MUCH cuter than the gal from
online that I was going to originally meet) late 20's, shorter hair like the gal
from "Birds of Prey". She was wearing a Black jacket with a fur lined collar and
black skin tight pants. Under the black jaket she had a very low cut shirt that
revealed her Very nice nice tits (at least D here) which looked to perfect to be
real... (They weren't real I later found out) but nonetheless she looked hot.
She was reading something too and glanced up at me... I made it a point to
catch her eye and smile.
I noticed what she was reading (Some womens magazine) and I
commented on it... which led to some small talk and some ball busting about
her looking too sexy to be out for just coffee... (I don't mind small talk,
busting balls, and being cocky and funny to start things off... it just makes a
gal feel like you are someone she can be comfortable around. One point
though, is that I never let up... I keep the ball rolling)
Her name was Lisa.
I then went into some cold reading about her... she was definitely very
sexual and sensual, a "physical type", a do'er, someone who would rather do
things than just think about doing them, also someone that enjoyed herself
and could let go at times..., being at home in her own body, knowing what she
likes, and what she wants... the type of person who just goes for it..."
Cold reading is the art of telling people truisms( Things that are true about
anyone)whi
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the type of person who goes after what she wants.
I went on a little bit more with the cold read and then switched to an
elicitation... "So what do you look for in a guy? What is attractive to you?"...
She seemed to be feeling somewhat vulnerable at this point and she said,
"I've been telling all about me... I feel kind of vulnerable, you know all this

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stuff about me, and I don't know anything about you..." So I went into some
small talk, a little about me... and then went right back in to the elicitation...
This will happen from time to time as you try to take social surface level
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"So you were telling me, what is it that you find attractive about a guy...
and how do you know that you're attracted to this guy?" She thought a little
and said, "No, you tell me what YOU want and what you find attractive..."
"Passion" I said... "Where you can just let go of everything, and just enjoy
this with all your heart... where right now, this is the only thing that really
matters, where only this moment exists and you can just lose yourself in this
sense of passion with this person..."
Yeah... "Sweet surrender" she said as she smiled... "So what is sweet
surrender?" I said. "I don't know... its just when you can just release all your
inhibitions, and you just give yourself fully to someone... I'm a very
passionate person," she said...
Sweet surrender was an example of what is called a trance word in the NLP
community. In10se tries to figure out what that feels like as he is looking for
the internal process she goes through to feel passion.
"In what ways are you passionate?" I said... "Well I'm very physically
passionate... I love to cum, and have orgasms one right after another..."
At this point, there were people beginning to listen to the convo so I said,
"Let's go outside and sit where we can talk without other people listening"
So we move outside in front of Starbucks and sat at a table in the corner...
"So what were you telling me about? ... about how you're passionate
physically... what you get out of being passionate..."
Here he goes back to the previous thread to gather more information about
her description of physical passion.

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"I'm not just physically passionate. I'm also passionate about LIFE... I give
110% of myself to every situation..."
"Yeah, I think you can be physically passionate, emotionally passionate,
and intellectually passionate... Passion is just something that you are... it's
your world and the way you live life... isn't it..."
We fluffed a little more about me, because she wanted to know a little more of
what I do, what kinds of things I enjoyed and about my past girlfriends... I
skirted some of those topics, but kept it light...
Since it was starting to get cold, I said... "You know, it's getting cold... Let
s
go sit somewhere warm... how about your car, do you have a heater?" As I
held her and and stood up. "Ok" she said and we started walking toward her
car. She actually had a large sized Chevy Truck so we climbed in, turned the
heat on, and continued talking.
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reason to go somewhere private, you just need a reason.
I started to bring up the "physical" thing again but she said, "You keep
talking about sex... not that I'm not interested, but I'd like to talk about
something else for a little bit..."
I'm not the one that brought it up! About Physical passion, I meant it like
having a passion for life. You're right, we shouldn't be talking about this... it
make us too hot and bothered... and we're enjoying it too much... you
shouldn't think about sex..."
Here she starts to get freaked out a little by the sexual nature of the
conversation, but In10se cleverly reframes it using a technique I call
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sexy, or for looking at you like that etc. You can always blame the girl.
"You know", I said, "You seem tense right here" as I reached over to the back
of her neck area and began to massage the back of her neck."You seem to
store a lot of tension right here..." as I continued and began to move closer in
to her and brushing her face... (She was a "physical type" and I felt pretty
confident with just moving in with the sexual kino...)
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She responded my moving her lips to my hands and we were then making
out big time...
I pulled her leg over to on top of me, put the seat back and pulled her on
top of me, straddling me. We continued the making out and started grinding
big time... I put my hands down her back, down her pants, and felt her
crack... no underwear as I squeezed her bare cheeks. Then she whipped out
her huge tits and put them right in my mouth. She was a VERY kinky and
uninhibited gal and she started sucking on HER OWN tit as I was sucking her
nipple and kissing her mouth at the same time (That
s how big her tits were!)
THEN she asked me to BITE her nipples... and kept saying "Harder... BITE it
with your teeth... make it hurt... let me know you want me" So I complied
although I was kind of scared that I may make her bleed!
Then she starts getting nasty and says, "Every woman wants to be treated
like a slut,.. say "Fuck me, little slut" say "Fuck me, little whore"... Needless to
say, I complied because she kept saying "SAY IT" until I did...
As far as the rest of the report, you guys can just use you imagination...
lets just say that we made her truck rock, and she was LOUD... I was worried
about getting arrested because there were people in the parking lot, and she
had multiple squirting orgasms which literally squeezed me out of her several
times...
Questions, Comments, Realizations?
This is one of my favorite LRs of all time and reminds us all that you can
never judge a girl by looking at her

FIELD REPORT: BRINGING OUT THE DEVIL IN ANGEL:


IN10SE
Well guys,
You know, something about being a PUA that affects you wherever you
go... you carry a certain energy in every situation... and you can read certain
energies of gals who are ready ...even when you least expect it.
I went to the local shopping center at about 12 noon today. Just me... and
I stopped by the Quizno's sandwich place for a quick bite to eat. I walked in

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and immediately scanned the room. There were a few couples, there was a
mom and her teen daughter, there was a woman in her forties, and sitting
near the back was a 30 y/o 8.0 brunette who immediately made xtended eye
contact with me. (Hmmm, an indicator of interest)
I went ahead and ordered my sandwich, got my drink and sat at the table
right next to her. Convenient. Of course I noticed her "energy" and it was
inviting so I turned my body at a slight angle toward her and interestingly she
did the same.
I glanced over to her and made a comment, "You know who you look like...
never mind" She had a quizical look on her face and I matched it with mine. I
then smiled, and put out my hand and said, "My name is In10se".
She smiled and said, "My name's Angel", as we shook hands, and I held on
to her hand and went into Thumb-wrestling. She played along and started
laughing. She was acting like a teenager.
Look for ways to initiate touching in non sexual ways. Thumb wrestling is a
great idea.
I noticed though that she had a ring on, but I didn't bring it up. It was kind
of interesting how she covered up her left hand with her right hand (almost
covering up her ring, a good subconscious sign) as I asked her some fluff
stuff. This lasted a short while... enough to make her comfortable. I asked her
about what she does... what she enjoys doing around here, and then I went
into some basic value elicitation.
"So I'm curious about you, because you remind me of my Ex's sister...
basically she was someone that was going out with a guy that was just filling a
role, she was a beautiful gal and she knew that a part of her wanted to be
with him, but there was also this other part always wondering if there was
something more out there."
Telling a girl she reminds you of someone and then describing the way you
want the girl to act is a great way to set frames.
I noticed her non-verbals, she seemed to agree. So I went on. "Basically,
you know how there is a part of you, I know that it is probably true with more
people than care to admit it... but are you really fulfilled? I mean, does this
part of you really get what it needs in order to be really satisfied in just the
way that you want it now?"
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She said, "Are you kidding?" "I shouldn't be telling you this, but I've
probably been touched twice by my boyfriend in the last month." "Oooo, that's
too bad", I said as I made a sour face matching hers. I was done eating and
then I said, "So, what do you do all day long then?" She replied with,"Not
much, my days are free, from 8am to 4pm when my boyfriend gets home".
(Another green light I thought... why would she even be TELLING me this)
What are you doing the rest of today is a logistics gathering question.
When she responds that she has nothing to do the rest of the day until her
boyfriend gets back, she
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continuing the interaction.
I followed with, "Hmmm, so what are you doing this afternoon, is there a
park around here or somewhere that we can go to and just hang out awhile?"
She said there was one real close and told me to follow her. I got in my car
and followed her to the park. We sat down under a tree by the pond and the
ducks swam up to us.
I then went right back into, "So you were telling me... what would you
need to have in order to be really fulfilled and really enjoy things?" (Notice I
left it vague) She replied with "Sensuousness". Mmmm, just what I wanted to
hear as I followed with:
So how do you know that you have this
sensuousness with this person that you're with?"
"Well, a really sensuous kiss can make me wet", "It's like you can kiss with
your whole body and you can feel it in your body." (Green light I thought...
she was talking about being WET)
I then said, "So when you
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sense of sensuousness, where you can kiss this person, and you feel the
sensuousness of this kiss in your whole body, and it's like a tingling... like
electricity... is this right?" "Right here" as I touched her lower stomach.
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great kiss. She smiled.
"Oh, and you know what else?
, she said, "Maybe one person in 100 can do
this with their tongue" as she curled it into a U shape... "But only 1 in a million
can do this" as she curled it into the opposite hump shape.

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"Wow, that means that you have really good control over your tongue
muscles and have a really sensitive touch on your tongue". "I like that", I
replied.
Here he qualifies her for having good control of her muscles and a sensitive
tongue. She was trying to get his approval with the tongue demonstration,
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works to validate her when she was clearly working for his approval.
I leaned back on my back with my head and upper body supported by my
elbows. She was facing me sitting up and looked down at my crotch. "You
know, that's a dangerous position to be in", she said. (Green lights all the
way, I thought)
"When we have sex, you'll see exactly what I mean", she said. "Assuming
that we're going to have sex of course". (GREEN LIGHTS!)
I immediately followed with "Well, I know that for you, you probably have
to feel completely safe and secure with this person... and two, that this is the
kind of person that totally turns you on and that you are attracted to, for you
to do this." "Exactly" she said.
I followed with, "So what would have to happen for us to have sex?"
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acknowledges and gets around any objections she may have. It also helps by
getting her to assist in her own seduction.
She stopped and thought. Then replied with, "Well it definitely couldn't be
at my house. It's too dangerous. We could go to your car and find a secluded
place. There is also a motel that shows porn if your into that."
"Let's go to my car", I said. I only have about 45 minutes though. We then
went to my car, drove to behind a warehouse area that was secluded. And
then went right into kissing, feeling, her shorts and panties off, my shorts and
underwear off, and she gave me a BJ, as I slid the seat all the way back, put
the back all the way down and put the parking break down. After the BJ (Deep
throated awhile too) she climbed on top of me, slid me in and rid me hard.
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Anyway, I drove her back to her car and she wants me to be her daytime
diversion now. She's a pretty wild one. Into taking pictures, exhibitionism,
threesomes with both guys and girls, and being tied up and blindfolded. She
wants to tie ME up! I'm not sure if I'm into that. I told her I have a digital
camera and she told me to bring it next time. She wants to do the two guy
and a girl thing too so I may call on some of you SoCal Bro's. She is definitely
up for group sex and hooking up with other women as well.
Something about her told me when I first saw her, that she was game to
play.
Comments, Questions, Insights? To learn more about In10se and his specific
type of hypnotic seductions. Go to www.octoberman.com

DAY GAME BREAKDOWN:


I want to start this breakdown with a talk about some major differences
between Day game and Night game.
During night game we do group approaches, that means walking up to a
group of people and initiating a conversation. During the day it is just plain
inefficient, and because of the energy level differences we will address next,
will just come off weird. One of the things I always say about day game is that
it measures your ability to be a normal person, as you meet them in a
completely every day environment.
The next major difference between daytime and night time, is energy
levels. Generally you want to approach the set with an energy level equal or
SLIGHTLY higher than theirs. So at night when you are competing with lights,
and music, and her friends, and alcohol, other guys etc.. Your energy level can
be super high!
But during the day in abookst
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drawn to the fact that she is flirting with you. Discretion is an attractive
quality, so you want the interaction to look like two old friends catching up to
anyone on the outside.
A good general rule is to tone everything down to about 1/3 of what you
would use in a club. That rule is equally applied to your movement. The
person who moves less always has more social power. This applies more
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during the day as you are going to be meeting in a fairly low stimulation
environment, there may not be music or any noise whatsoever, thus making
any nervous twitches or unnecessary movements all the more noticeable.
The volume at which you speak, always an issue in bars and clubs, is not
such an issue during the day. This means that you need to speak loudly
enough to be heard and interpreted as confident. That said do not speak like
you are trying to cut over a F-14 during takeoff. Remember the louder you
talk, the more attention you are drawing to the situation and the more
uncomfortable the both of you will become.
Let

squi
ckl
yr
evi
ew t
hebasi
csofdel
i
ver
yaswel
l
:
Make sure you are projecting from your diaphragm instead of your chest.
This is important because it not only lowers your voice to make it sound
sexier, it also allows you to project your voice farther. Learning how to do this
will ensure you are always heard. If needed it may be worth it to do a few
sessions with a vocal coach. A quick Google search can get you a list of
names.
Speak one person behind whoever you are talking to. This will make sure
that your voice carries. It will also keep you from being too loud while
projecting your voice.
Try to eliminate ums and ahs from your speaking, replace them with
pauses. By making this correction alone, you will instantly sound more alpha
and decisive. It can take practice but the more you weed out unnecessary
words from your speech, the more clearly you will be displaying your
attractive qualities.
Pauses are very important as they build response attentiveness. You
should pause for no reason every couple of minutes to build some intrigue into
what you are saying. People start paying attention when you pause.
Do not speak too fast. I cannot overstate this as someone who formerly
spoke like an Olympic sprinter. The faster you speak, the more it looks like
you are nervous, or worried that the people you are speaking too are going to
stop listening. This telegraphs a tonofi
nsecur
i
t
y.Don
twor
r
yt
heyar
enot
going to leave if you slow down and take a second to collect yourself.
Don
tbeaf
r
ai
dt
owast
et
hegi
r
l

s time. If you lose track of what you were


saying or doing a second ago, take a second to collect your thoughts. Make
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herwai
tasecondt
ool
ongbef
or
eyouanswerherquest
i
ons.Don
tappearso
eager and happy to simply be speaking to a girl.
Makest
at
ement
s,don
taskquest
i
ons. Aski
ngquest
i
onsi
sl
i
ke
wi
t
hdr
awi
ngmoneyf
r
om t
hebank.Ther
e
sonl
ysomuchi
nt
her
eandaf
t
eri
t

s
gone the withdrawal fee is the girl walking away. A great simple
conversational trick, is to turn any boring question into a statement. For
example if I want to ask what a girl does, I can ask the chodlicious question:

What do youdo?OrI cansay


Youl
ookl
i
keanur
se. I
fshei
sanur
se,she
l
l
beamazed,i
fshei
sn
tshewi
l
lwonderwhyI thought that and tell me what
she actually does. Avoid questions like the plague until you are into comfort.
Don
tspeaki
nashor
tchoppy manner. Make sure that your speech has a
rhythmic quality to it and sounds smooth. Elongate words and try to be as
smooth as possible. Think of how you would talk to your girlfriend after sex.
Speakcl
ear
l
y.Don
tmumbl
e,sl
urorf
or
gett
oenunci
ate.
Another major difference between day and night game is actual time
constraints. At a bar or a club, girls are out for the rest of the night. At a
coffee shop on a Wednesday afternoon, she may have a myriad of reasons
whyshecan
tt
al
kf
ormor
et
han 10 minutes. She may have to go an
appoi
nt
ment
,pi
ckupt
hedr
ycl
eani
ng,getbackt
owor
ket
c Pl
ushopef
ul
l
y
YOU have legitimate time constraints.
Ther
ealpur
poseofdaygame,i
nyourhumbl
eaut
hor

sopi
ni
on,i
snott
o
set out a couple of hours a day to scour the streets looking for women to
approach. Instead the point is to integrate picking up girls as a daily part of
your behavior as integral to who you are, as the way you dress or the music
you listen to. Because of this factor we are going to be speeding the game up
quite a bit, and aiming to get phone #s within ten minutes EVERY set.
During the day you are going to do moving sets. Moving sets inside a bar
or club, are usually a bad idea. First they are in a bar or club right? So they
are probably going to have a place where they are going to sit or stand
around.
Soi
t

smucheasi
ert
owai
tf
ort
hem t
ogetset
t
l
edandt
henappr
oacht
hem
then it is to get them to stop. During the day however, you will never see that
girl ever again if you don
tgethert
ost
opandhaveaconver
sat
i
onwi
t
hyou!

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There are three general ways to open moving sets:


1. Walk with them and open them over the shoulder while slightly ahead of
them( Credit Mystery) In this approach you and the girl are moving in
the same direction. You get a little bit ahead of her and then turn your
head slightly to face her and open with something indirect.
2. Stopping the set. (Credit Tyler Durden) With the girl walking with in the
same direction as you or the opposite direction to you. You plant your
feet and deliver your opener very loudly. It is critically important that
no matter what happens, you do not move your feet to chase her. You
stand completely still and continue talking. You can open either direct or
indirect in this fashion.
3. Going direct. With the girl either walking the same direction or the
opposite direction as you. If she is walking the opposite direction as
you, you can step in front of her, or chase her down and open her with
a direct opener. With a girl walking the same direction as you , tap her
on the shoulder to get her attention, and then use a direct opener. Such
asI noticed you from across the X and I knew that if I di
dn
tcome
overandseei
ft
her
ewasmor
et
oyout
hanmeet
st
heeye,I

dbe
kicking mysel
ff
ort
her
estoft
heday.Mynamei
s Di
r
ecti
swaymor
e
powerful during the day than it is at night.
The first major structural change from day time to night time, is the
shrinking of the attraction phase. When you approach a girl in a group and she
i
sn
tsomewhati
nt
er
est
edr
i
ghtaway,youar
est
i
l
lok.That

sbecausei
fshe
doesn
tl
i
keyoubutherf
r
i
endsdo,youwi
l
lst
i
l
lbeal
l
owedt
ohangar
oundand
convey personality.
If you approach a single girl and she is not interested in at least having a
conversation with you within three minutes, you are in trouble. The reason is
t
hatyoudon
thavegr
oupappr
ovaldur
i
ngt
heday.Shedoesn
thavet
ot
hi
nk
aboutwhyherf
r
i
endsl
i
keyouevent
houghshedoesn
t
,soshemakesa
decision that you are uninteresting much faster.
Thegoodnewsi
s,t
hatdur
i
ngt
hedayherdef
ensesar
en
tup.For
get
t
i
ng
for a second, the stigma certain people including the author hold about
meet
i
ngi
nbar
sandcl
ubs,shesi
mpl
ydoesn
tgetappr
oachedasmuch during
the day. So much so, that the very act of approaching and having your shit
together, is enough to get attraction most of the time. This is why during the
day we try to go straight into qualification off the opener.
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Youdon
tneedt
onegative during the day. Negging is a much
mi
sunder
st
oodconcept
,butdur
i
ngt
hedayyoudon
tneedi
t
,ast
hegi
r
l
swi
l
l
be much more receptive and friendly. You do however need banter. I define
banter as competent flirting and teasing skills.
Don
tt
ouchgi
r
l
s(
while meeting them) in ways that you would be
uncomfortable touching your boss. Touching too much during the day, along
with crowding a girl
s personal space on the approach, are the two best ways
to creep a girl out in a hurry. One of the major differences between bar and
club interactions and day time interactions is the level of acceptable touching.
Atni
ghtwhenshe
soutwi
t
hherf
r
i
endshavi
ngsomesoci
alt
i
me,i
t

s
acceptable to make out with and maybe even take home some new guy. When
she
sdoi
ngherhomewor
kat Starbucks, not so much.

Online Game
WHAT IS ONLINE GAME?
Online game obviously refers to meeting women online. This could be
through a social networking site like MySpace, or Facebook, through a
chatroom, or even off a dating service. Online dating should never be the crux
of your game, but it can be a nice little bonuses round.
Speer is the founder of Phaseshift Lounge. He worked with Mystery at
Venusian Arts and lived briefly in Project Miami.
This theory brings me to MySpace
I was in that place mentally where I j
ustdi
dn
tf
eell
i
kegoi
ngout
.I felt like
staying at home and watching the flickering lights on my projector. Watching
movies, TV shows, visualization programs that sync to the music I listen to,
etc. I just felt like I was in a rut. The worse thing is the more I di
dn
tgoout
,
the worse I felt. This concept is like a catch 22. I asked myself what I could
do to still pick up girls without going out. How can I attract girls to come to
me, or at least have a solid reason to get out of the house.
When I feel this way I always reach out to my friends. I decided that I needed
to brainstorm. So I called a good friend of mine Brady (A.K.A Havok) and we
shared stories about our recent adventures. I also told him how I was feeling
and that I j
ustdi
dn
tf
eell
i
kegoi
ngoutanywher
e.I di
dn
tf
eell
i
kegami
ngor
even hanging out with friends. Brady shared one of his recent adventures with
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a girl that he met through MySpace. He told me his typical message he sends
out to numerous girls. He also shared with me the girls he was actually pulling
from the site. I was thinking to myself this sounds like a winner. I don
thave
to leave the house until I have a reason to.
What I did is made a cool looking profile which included pictures of me with
celebrities, pictures of my social circle, my girls, my house (Project Miami) and
of course pictures of myself. Then I wrote a brief description of myself, what I
like, and what I don
tl
i
ke.
I wrote a few things in the blog section that would DHV me if my targets
were interested and actually took the time to read it. I also put one of my
favorite songs at the time to load as soon as you enter the page. That way I
was creating a vibe when they look over my page.
The most important thing for your profi
l
ei
syourpi
ct
ur
es.Youdon
thave
to be Brad Pitt but you do need to have pictures that convey your personality.
Att
heendoft
hi
schapt
erwe
l
lhaveadosanddon
t
s on profile pictures.
Then I took the time to develop a generic message that I could send out to as
many girls as I wanted. A message that would be short, simple, and would
have hooks that will be able to make a girl that is interested in reply with
someI
OI

s.
The message I developed went something like this:

I
don
tg
et on this much lately but somehow I ended on your profile
and you know what?
This is a good use of scarcity. One of the main things we want to convey
with online dating is that we are not taking online dating too seriously.
Your like the little sister I never wanted:p ... Good tease.
You seem like you might be more than just another pretty face in the
crowd... Here in Miami, beauty is common, especially in my field. However,
you seem like you might have something more to offer.
Introduction of the screening frame! You want to make sure you introduce
t
hescr
eeni
ngf
r
ameear
l
yi
nt
hemessages.Ther
e
sal
soagoodopenl
oopwi
t
h
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There are actually three things that are really important. Do you know
what they are?
This is a GREAT open loop. Open loops are unfinished thoughts or hooks
that create curiosity.
Speer =---->
ThenI developed an additional generic message to reply to
their replies. That way I had little to no work to do and I could literally farm
hundreds of girls. Also when the girls replied to my first message I would wait
a while before reading their reply and replying to it. The reason for that is in
the first message I wr
ot
e
Idon
tgetont
hi
smuchwhi
chmeansi
fI was
online all the time it would not be congruent.
That reply message I would send out went something like this:
Sorry for getting back to you so late..I just got back from a full day that
started out with a beach party, you know I got to get my tan on, then I came
back to the house for a quick shower and right back out to a fashion show
where we had a few tables and a whole bunch of us got bottles. You gotta
party right!!
I had a freaking blast. I got to hang out with all my friends and my girls.
Then the after party... because what type of guy with I be if I di
dn
thavean
after party to go to? I grabbed some of my girlfriends and one of my best
friends and went out to one of the coolest clubs around. I don
twantt
ot
el
l
you the name because you might stock me, but I can honestly say it is one of
the hottest venues in south beach. Drop me your number and if the night is
right next time I'll invite you along.
Oh yeah almost forgot the three most important things:
1. A good outlook on life
2. A good energy
3. A great personality
It
sal
waysagoodi
deat
oescal
at
et
hei
nt
er
act
i
onf
r
om messagesor
messenger programs to the phone as quickly as possible.
TheSi
nn
sOfAt
t
r
act
i
onOnl
i
neI
nt
i
macyscal
egoesl
i
ket
hi
s.1.Wi
nks,
pokes, etc.. 2. Messages on a dating or social networking site 3. Instant
messenger 4. Text 5. Phone calls 6. Real life.

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After sending out my first message to around 30 girls I had like 7 replies. I
waited a few days and then sent off my scripted reply. Out of the 7 girls 2
hooked, sent me there numbers and I called them and set a meet date, and
time with them. I coul
dn
tbel
i
evei
tbuti
tact
ual
l
ywor
ked.I got a date with a
9.5 from MySpace.
Onl
i
nedat
i
ngi
sabi
tofanumber
sgame.Don
tbedi
scour
agedi
fany
par
t
i
cul
argi
r
ldoesn
tr
espond.
As I was driving to her house the lug nut to my car broke off and I slid all
over the highway. I almost hit the wall but thank god I learned stunt driving
because my natural skill took over and saved my life. Damn I thought to
myself now I don
tgett
ogopi
ckherup.
I called a tow truck and a good friend named Ben to come pick me up. I
asked him to drop me off at my parent
s house because I would not be able to
drive my car until I get a chance to bring it to the shop tomorrow. As he was
dropping me off I called my date and explained my situation. Luckily she still
wanted to see me. I told her I would try to get my dad
s car and drive over.
I got my father
s car and drove straight to her house. Along the way I
texted all my friends that are promoters in south beachandaskedwhat

s
going on? I got a few replies with several choices for parties that were
happening.
When I got to my dates location I noticed that the DHV stories I had told
her about my car, etc. (Would be completely fake, since I am driving a
different car.)
I figured that I would just tell her I neededt
ost
opatmypar
ent

shouset
o
pick up something. I did this because I wanted to remain congruent with the
DHV stories I had told her in our previous conversations and because my car
was parkedatmypar
ent

shouseandshewoul
dgett
oseei
t
.I
ti
sext
r
emel
y
i
mpor
t
antt
ost
aycongr
uentespeci
al
l
ywhenyouhaven
tevenmetbef
or
ei
n
person. The thing is if you are not congruent you will DLV (Demonstrate Lower
Value) yourself extremely.
After we swing by my parents house and I got whatever it is that I stop
there for we started heading towards south beach. It was already around 2:00
AM since a tire flying off my car was not in the plans. I al
wayssaydon
tl
et
anything stand in your way remain come and continue living life like nothing
happened. Think about it. If I got mad and let the accident end my night it
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would of really sucked but now I got a girl with me and I am heading to a
club. What could be better?
Always a good idea to persevere! You can either see obstacles or
opportunities. Here Speer sees an opportunity.
Since it was already late I told her that we would be stopping by briefly
because we should go back to my house for some drinks and fun. I explained
that I wasn
ti
nt
hecl
ubmood because of the accident. She understood and
happily agreed. When we arrived at the venue I texted my friend and she
greeted us at the door and walked us to her VIP table. There was many girls
there that I hadhungoutpr
evi
ousl
y.Ever
yonewasl
i
ke
Speer
!Speer
!

kissing and hugging me.


There was immense pre-selection in the air, and my target felt it. I ignored
her for most the night and paid attention to my social circle more. I did get
her a few drinks and introduce her around before I disengaged and focused
my attention on my friends.
They missed me since I had not been out in weeks. After a while I crept up
behind my target and started dancing with her. Slowly moving my hands up
and down her body she did not resist at all. I decided to continue kino plowing
and go for the kiss close. I ran my regular kiss close although I did not ask
what she liked better I just started kissing, biting and tonguing her neck as I
slowly escalated towards her lips.
After a few minutes we were making out passionately while dancing. If it
was there was a right time to bounce it would be now. Her buying temperature
was threw the roof. I told her:

Me: L
e
t

sget out of here.


Target: Why?
Me: I want to go show you my pad before I have to bring you home
besides the music is too loud here
Target: nods
I said goodbye to like 20 people. Kissing, hugging, and doing the normal
goodbye before I leave a venue. Most of the time I even say goodbye to
people I do not know. Like bouncers, bar tenders, door guys, valet guys, etc.

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The reason I dot


hi
si
st
obui
l
dmor
eat
t
r
act
i
oncues.Myt
ar
getdoesn
tknow I
don
tknow t
heseguys.I
nhermi
ndI know everyone in the venue this creates
social alignments, and social proof.
Social proof is always a good thing
As we began driving through south beach I kept pointing out good venues
to go to. She really liked that I was taking the time to teach her about all the
cool spots in south beach. As I was talking I moved my hand on her thigh and
continued to rub it. I did this so I can keep the vibe going, and keep her
buying temperature high so I woul
dn
thavet
odealwi
t
hal
otofASD (
Ant
iSl
ut
Defense) or LMR (Last Minute Resistance).
When we arrived at Project Miami I started explaining to her what I did and
who all lives here. As we walked in the house was quite. After all no one was
home. I walked her into the kitchen and fixed her a drink afterwards I took
her on a tour of the house. I took the time and showed her every nook and
cranny. Girls are like cats that want to know where everything is. This makes
them feel safe in a new environment. The more comfortable she feels the
more inclined to comply she will feel. My tour of the house always ends with
my room.
This is a key point in end game logistics. If you give the girl a tour of your
place when you bring her back, make sure the tour ends in your room. That
way you guys can continue to hang out in your room without having to make
the big move from the living room to the bedroom.
As I we walked down the stairs and entered my room I immediately sat on my
bed and she followed. I left the door to my bedroom open. This is yet another
way to make her feel comfortable. A lot of guys I know especially ones with
roommates get a girl into their room and immediately close the door. A girl
feels very uncomfortable if you do that right away, she feels unsafe and/or
trapped. Remember in order to sleep with a girl she must be extremely
comfortable with you and her surroundings. Otherwise she might just back
awayorgr
ow col
d.I
twoul
dn
tbeyourf
aul
tei
t
heri
t

sj
ustanat
ur
albehavi
or
al
set that is built into most of us.
As we sat on my bed I started going through my identity grounding
routines. I showed her pictures of me on set with different actors. I showed
her my portfolio and a few books I was featured in. I played around and joked
wi
t
hherbecauseshehadn
tr
eal
l
ywat
chedanyoft
hemovi
esI was in. Slowly
I bui
l
tmor
ecomf
or
tusi
ngmygr
oundi
ngr
out
i
nes,I
VD
s(
I
nst
antVal
ue

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Demonstration) like the cube, magic tricks, etc. Then I pumped her buying
temperature again by being cock funny and I went for the F-Close.
On the way back to her house at 8:00AM I talked her into coming down to
project Miami and staying with me for a few weeks before going back to LA
(where she was from). She agreed and we had a wonderful two weeks
together.
Now I know that if I don
tf
eell
i
kegoi
ngoutt
her
ei
sal
waysot
her
alternatives then just the numbers I picked up while sarging, there is
MySpace, Facebook and many other sites. Just Remember:
Make sure in the messages you construct you have attraction cues in place.
Get the number as fast as possible so you can talk on a personal level
Don
tl
etanyt
hi
ngst
opyou,l
i
f
egoeson.
Don
tset
t
l
ef
orwhatyoudon
twant
.
Make sure you are 100% congruent with everything you say in the e-mails
and/
oront
hephone.Si
nceshedoesn
tknow you,youdonotwantt
oseem
incongruent from the start.
On the first date try to DHV yourself and have as many attraction cues as
possible visible to your target.
Don
tr
usht
hi
ngs.
To learn more about Speer check out www.Phaseshiftlounge.com
This is actually made up of two posts. One from when I called the lay ala
Babe Ruth and the follow up after it happened.
I've fooled around with internet game a little recently, I started off with
some of Cajun's stuff off the attraction forum and then I tailored a bit and
started to help out some of my friends with their profiles and messages. I
have closed about 10 girls off of it in the last three months and I've met up
with 12 girls off it. One of them was gross and I ditched her with the super
quickness. I think internet game is too retardedly easy and a monkey could
get laid if he knows how to write a good profile and has about 5 responses. I
was working on a way to automate internet game with the collection of
messages I have from my experiments on various websites. But I have way
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too much to do right now. I have been writing profiles for students and their
results have been really good so far.
To get Sinn to write your online profile for you, email him at
Sinnstravel@gmail.com
Now onto this particular instance this super hot girl hit me up on MySpace
with the following message:
I was looking around on this stupid (Internet Dating site) thing and I found
you, but it said you hadn't been on in a while, so I looked up Dallas to see if
you happened to be around where I
m moving to and I found you on here! I
promise I'm not a crazy stalker or anything! Just thought you were very
interesting!
and I'm moving to Texas next month and was wondering if you were still
around?
Sorry if this is weird lol ... I just had to message you! <her name>
I responded with a modified version of one of Cajun's online openers:
Well I am fascinating... :)
Seriously though you had me when you're about you blurb was about a
lifted truck. I'm so adopting you as my country little sister... Don't worry, we'll
spend all our time together climbing trees and drinking kool-aid. Actually you
seem like a pretty cool person, I'd love to get together sometime and let you
cook for me Ha! Ha!
Her response: Well I mean, don't flatter yourself or anything
Two things though, I won't be adopted as anyone's little sister, thank you.
and I'm the worst cook in the world. Unless you're into cereal and grilled
cheese...then I'm your chef :P
Sorry about the truck thing... It's just fascinating to me lol or maybe I'm a
nerd? Talk to you soon ;P
My response: Oh you're definitely a nerd :) but you're kinda cute. For a
nerd.

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This is the first indicator of interest I give her. One of the most common
waysguysmessuponl
i
nei
sbyseemi
ngt
ooi
nt
ot
hegi
r
lt
oof
ast
.Don
tbe
anxi
oust
ot
el
lheryou
r
ei
nt
er
est
ed. Make her earn it. How does she earn it?
By giving you indicators of interest of course.
Gotta run... Going to Vegas.
I expect a saccharine sweet message when I check back here :)
This is one of my favorite things to do with women. Give them tasks. We all
know that compliance is the key all pickups. So you want to look for any
opportunity to test compliance. I do this by giving them fun little tasks.
Her response:
Hello darling! I hope your trip went wonderfully!
.... Okay that's enough sweetness out of me for today.
I hope to shatter this nerd image sometime in the near future, so you can pick
another adjective if you want to. :) but it better be something nice.
Seriously though, how did it go? I've never been there, sounds too big and
busy for what I'm used to. You should just come to (Where she lives), instead!
Well, I'm off to get more done to my tattoo yayyy
Hurry back!!!
My Response: I'm gonna give you a B+ for the sweet part of the message,
but until I actually get to know you off the internet... You're still a dork! A
kinda cute dork, but I digress.
Tattoo eh? What did you get done?
J
ustsomel
i
ghtt
easi
ngandf
l
uf
ft
al
k.Youdon
thavet
oconst
ant
l
ybeusi
ng
a tactic or technique.
Her response: Oh yay, a B+! Well that was more than I expected so good!
At least you think I'm "cute" lol whatever the hell that means ha. I'll add you
so you can see the rest of my retarded pictures and laugh.
I pushed my date to move back a week. I'm getting a little nervous about
moving all the way down there and knowing like 4 people...lol... I'm gonna
miss my Momma :P ...

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But you seem to know your way around, so I'll be sure to ask you first!
Her
eshet
r
i
est
oseedushangi
ngouti
nt
hef
ut
ur
e.Thi
smeansshe
s
hooked.
Good luck on the rest of your adventure. I'd love to help ... lol... but
unfortunately with gas being seventy dollars a gallon and I have a 16 hour
drive, I'm not much to ya.
As for my tat, I just got a long sentence going down my left side; from
under my arm to the side of my hip. That one definitely didn't feel good. I just
had to have a little bit filled in on it the other night, and eventually I'm going
to have more shading and stars around it, to go with the five stars I already
have.
P.S. - thanks for not assuming me a total nutcase: P
My Response: Oh man you're not rich?? Damn! You're messing up my
lifelong goal of being a house husband. I could just see it now (Cue cheesy
Jefferson
s style intro music) I wake up pump some iron to show the little lady
what she's paying for then watch my stories and have a massage... All
crushed now :(
Not only do I not think you're nuts, I might be dangerously close to
developing an internet crush. Which I don't like so stop being cool!
This internet crush thing is a great example of an SOI or statement of
i
nt
ent
.I

ml
et
t
i
ngherknow t
hatshe
sst
ar
t
i
ngt
owi
nmeover
.Butbecause
I

vemadeanescal
at
i
onandI can
tt
akeadvant
ageofi
tphysi
cal
l
y.I have to
use a release to maintain the sexual tension.
Her response: Ha well, I will be one of these days, so you can dance
around to your Jefferson
s style intro music and have all the massages you
want :P And make all the movies you want! Don't give up on me so quickly!
Ooooooh somebody likes me :P (Middle school singsong tune ... lol)
Coming to visit me when I get down there?? :)
Here I know I've gone far enough to get her on the phone as these things
can easily fizzle over MySpace messages. So I give her a reason to call me as
opposed to me trying to call her. With internet stuff I always try to make them

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get my phone number and contact me first that way I set the frame that they
are chasing me from the beginning of the interaction all the way through.
Here's my last response before getting her on the phone: I think like would
be an overstatement for now... But you're growing on me :) You could grow
even more by writing me a good luck text message before my open mic
tonight. My number is xxx-xxx-xxx. There's gonna be like 100 people there
tonight! Nervous!!
From there I spent about three hours on the phone with her and
exchanged a gazillion texts. She's actually a really cute, funny girl with the
best accent ever. She's also smokingly hot she sent me nude pics and she's
insane hot. So I convinced her to fly out (despite her being terrified of flying
and only being on a plane once in her life before) here to visit me. I'm picking
her up from the airport in about 2 hours and she's staying here until Thursday.
I should fuck... I mean make sweet love to her tonight as I have closed every
girl I've met off the internet except one and that was because I made the
mistake of having her meet me out when I was already slightly intoxicated.
I'll update the rest tomorrow, but I since I just got this text:
This is kinda exhausting! Sheesh. I can't wait for your arms to be around
me! :)
I feel confident in calling the lay a la Babe Ruth.
Tune in tomorrow to find out:
Same Sinn time ... same Sinn blog.
So she got here last night and was very tired. So we came back to my place
and I gave her a back massage.
One thing led to another and soon I was playing the tease, which I will write a
post on ad nauseum soon. But it ended up with her giving me a little LMR until
I whipped it out and then told her to play with herself until she couldn't
take it anymore and begged me to fuck her.
This is an addendum to the technique of just pulling out your dick. What I
do now is encourage the girl to play with herself as well. It seems innocent like
we
l
lbot
henj
oyt
hi
st
oget
her
,butgi
r
l
scannot handle the arousal and it
ultimately leads to sex.
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She's one of the 5 hottest girls I've ever been with. She used to work w@
hooters and currently is a Bacardi promo girl. She's also really sweet and fun
to hang out with. She's here till Thurs so I probably won't update until after
she leaves.
Hope everyone is having as much fun as we are!

LR: TALL GERMAN AU PAIR


Iwasst
r
ol
l
i
ngal
ongmycol
l
ege
scampuswhenInot
i
cedar
eal
l
yt
al
l(
5
10)
really pretty German girl sitting by herself on a bench. Of course, I take this
as an opportunity to stop, sit next to her and make a phone call.
I open her by asking if I can share her bench. This is an important idea.
The community wants you to believe that being alpha is more important than
being polite, or that somehow the two are mutually exclusive. This is just out
and out bullshit. However you want to be aware of the order in which you do
things. With this girl I wanted to ask her for permission to sit before I sat
down and ignored her to have a phone conversation.
This is one of the things I love about seated sets during the day time; you
have 10-15mi
nut
esast
heyar
en
ti
nahur
r
yt
ogoanywher
e.
Now I want to bait her in with my conversation. It so happens that I was
actually calling a friend who is in a dramatic situation so I leave an
unnecessarily loud voicemail about it, then turn to the tall girl and say:
You
everhaveoneoft
hosedayswher
eyouf
eell
i
keyou
r
et
heonly sane one of
yourf
r
i
ends?She smiles and responds in a German accent. I hate German
accent
s
Wedi
scussmyf
r
i
end
sr
et
ar
dedsi
t
uat
i
onbef
or
eIt
r
ansi
t
i
onbyt
el
l
i
ngher
she
st
al
l
.Thi
si
sacl
assi
cMyst
er
yr
out
i
ne.ThenIcould read her as being
from Germany. Turns out she came over here to become an Au Pair and she
chose Miami because she loves house music.
Iqual
i
f
yheront
hedi
f
f
er
entDJ

sshel
i
kesevent
houghIhavenoi
deawho
anyoft
hem ar
e.ButIdol
i
vei
nMi
ami
,soIcanr
eci
t
eal
i
stofDJnamesI

ve
seen at clubs and when she likes one of them I reward her. This is in no way
ethical

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I ask her what she wants to be when she grows up and she responds by
saying happy. I tease her for the comment then reward her.
Her
eIcoul
dt
el
lt
hatshel
i
kedmeal
ot
,butshel
egi
t
i
mat
el
ydi
dn
tgi
vean
answer I could out and out qualify her on. Everyone wants to be happy in
some way, so I had to tease her by saying:
Wej
ustt
ur
ned to the judges and
they agree... wor
stanswerever
.
Then I qualify her on what happiness
means to her.
At the same time my ride i
scal
l
i
ngmeandaski
ngwher
eIam.I

vebeen
t
al
ki
ngt
ot
hi
sgi
r
lf
orabout15mi
nut
esandshe
sanswer
ed3qual
i
f
i
er
ssoI
decide to set up a date.
I invite her on my standard hookah smoking date, she says she loves the
Hookah and we exchange numbers. I follow up by texting her two hours later
to ask if she speaks text.
Now we
r
epastt
hepi
ckupandi
t

si
nt
oFol
l
ow UpandPhoneGame. My
specialty!
The best part comes when I bait her into asking me out.
I sent her this text in response to her telling me it was raining where she
was:
S: Sad day for you You can entertain yourself by sending me sweet and
or sexy texts.
G: That would be a nice entertai
nment
,butI

m noti
nt
hemoodyet for
sexy texts I also gotta concentrate on my studies. Let

smeetor
Saturday or so.
Fast Forward to Tuesday as I NEVER do first dates on Friday nights.
I tell her to meet me on the corner of the two streets I live on and when
she shows up, miraculously I forget my wallet and have to go upstairs to get
it. We get into my apartment; I let her get comfortable enough to sit down,
before we go on the date.
On the date we go to 2 Photography galleries we walk by on the way to the
Hookah place.

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This is where one of my lifestyle advantages comes into play. My slim to


none knowledge of photography and art is more than this 22 year old German
gi
r
l

sknowl
edgeoft
hesamesubj
ect
.Shei
sent
hr
al
l
ed.Byt
het
i
mewegett
o
t
heHookahspotwe
r
ewal
ki
ngar
mi
nar
m.
At the Hookah place we exchange 2 minute life stories and I sexually frame
her.
She
saggr
essi
vesexual
l
ywhenshel
i
kessomeone,she
si
ndependent
,she
is emot
i
onalandt
r
ust
sherdeci
si
ons.She
si
mpul
si
vebutheri
mpul
sesgui
de
her the right way.
Interestingly enough she refuses to kiss me in public, so I use an almost
kiss with her.
Ii
nvi
t
eherbackt
omypl
acef
oronel
astdr
i
nk.We
r
esi
t
t
i
ngonmypat
i
o
smoking a cigarette when I get behind her and start massaging her neck. All
ofasuddenwe
r
emaki
ngout
.ButIknow Ihavet
ogethert
othe bedroom to
escalate.
She goes to the bathroom so instead of staying out on the patio, I walk
into my room and lay on my bed. She comes out to find me a few minutes
later and one thing leads to another.

LR:SHE
S GOT A PIERCED CLIT
So I was walking down the street the other day when I came across a huge
tent and a makeshift stage. It turns out that today is some sort of Gay and
Lesbi
anMar
r
i
agepr
ot
estandt
hey
r
edoi
ngf
akemar
r
i
agesf
oranyonewho
wants one.
At a table across the street from the protest at Starbucks, I notice a
st
unni
ngbl
ondegi
r
l
.She
swear
i
ngabl
uet
ankt
opandwhi
t
eshor
tshor
t
s.
Isi
tdownatt
het
abl
enextt
oherandaskheri
fsheknowswhat

sgoi
ngon
across the street. She says that every year they have this gay pride event and
that last year she married 3 different people.
It
easeherabouthow Iwasgoi
ngt
ohi
tonher
,butsi
nceshe
sal
r
eady
married 3 people at a gay pride parade, I

l
lsavemyt
i
me.

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Shel
aughsandt
el
l
smeshe
sst
r
ai
ght
.It
el
lhert
hati
nt
hatcaseI

l
lst
i
ck
around for a bit. I introduce myself and she tells me her name. I ask her why
she
sspeci
al
.
Shet
el
l
smet
hatshei
sn
tspeci
alandt
hatsheact
ual
l
yi
saner
d.She
ment
i
onst
hatshel
ovesr
eadi
ng.It
el
lhert
hatshe
st
al
king dirty to me and
she needs to stop. We talk about our favorite authors, I tell her about my
writing specifically 12 Cities in 12 Months and my R Kelly musical. She thinks
I

mf
unny.
Wecont
i
nuet
ot
al
k,ever
yt
hi
ngcomi
ngnat
ur
al
l
yandeasi
l
y,she
svery
sar
cast
i
candf
unny.Ial
sor
eal
i
zeshe
scr
azy Shegoesonar
antabouthow
she
snevergot
t
enf
l
ower
sf
r
om aguyorherpar
ent
s,event
houghshehas
normal parents.
She
sf
r
om Napl
esandsaysshegoeshomemostweekendst
ospendt
i
me
with her family. I call her a dork. About 20 minutes in I start looking to move
herandgof
orasamedayl
ay,butshet
el
l
smeshe
smeet
i
ngaf
r
i
endf
or
lunch.
The friend shows up and I talk to both of them for about 20 minutes before
I get her phone number. I di
dn
tsetupadat
easi
twasonenought
hatI
di
dn
tt
hi
nkIneededt
o.
We immediately start texting all the time. Literally some days we would
text back and forth 50-60 times and talk on the phone for an hour or more.
Shet
el
l
smeshedoesn
tmake plans, I accuse her of being a plan collector.
Here are some of the more fun text exchanges:
I had joked around about how I should have been a pool hustler or
something in a former life. She asked me to clarify, so I said.
S: Yeah or a gangster that pulls a big heist
heat style
. There are certain
things all guys would want to do. A heist is one of them.
G: Oh yes I completely understand that. Movies give those roles so much
sex appeal.
S: Yeah I think I fit in nicely with Clooney and Pitt Plus you get to wear
awesome suits. I like dressing up, it makes me feel like an adult.
G: That makes sense too. I agree. Nothing would make me feel more like
an adult than having some high powered job and clicking around in a
pencil skirt, business jacket and heels.
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S:Now you
r
ej
ustt
empt
i
ngmei
nt
oi
nappr
opr
i
at
et
hought
s Especi
al
l
yi
fI
take your wording literally
G:Oops mybad.
S:I
t

sok.I actually want to take the time to encourage you to send as


many sexy outfit ideas as you can come up with. I can also add some
independent research if you want to poll what I find sexy
G:It
hi
nkyou
r
emaki
ngf
unofmyobsessi
ver
esear
chi
ngagai
normaybe
youar
et
r
yi
ngt
omakei
twor
ki
nyouradvant
age.I

mi
nt
er
est
ed
though. What turns you on?
Finally we decide to hang out on a Wednesday. I take her through my
usual date of photo galleries and drinks. Along the way we talk about the 7
best feelings of all time. This is actually a life theory I have, that there are 7
best feelings in the world. So far my list looks like this:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.

The feeling right after sex.


The feeling right after doing yoga.
Eat
i
ngsomet
hi
ngyou
vecr
avedal
lday.
Getting a new piercing.
Get
t
i
ngsomet
hi
ngdonet
hatyou
vebeenpr
ocr
ast
i
nat
i
ngonf
or
ever
.
The first drink of a night out.
Laughing so hard your eyes water.

Aswe
r
et
al
ki
ngaboutt
hi
s,shet
el
l
smeshehas12pi
er
ci
ngs.Icount9i
n
her ears. I know she just got her belly button pierced because we talked about
it. I count her ear piercings in front of her and then just trail off. She asks me
why I stopped. I tell her because I just figured something out about you and
smile.
I invite her back to my place to take some pictures by the pool. We end up
si
t
t
i
ngont
hel
edgeoft
hepoolmaki
ngoutwhenIdi
scover
.She
sgota
pierced clit. She also has squirting orgasms and soaks my bed to high heaven
before she leaves the next morning.

LR: THE ENEMY OF THE ENVIRONMENT


I had gone to grab a bite to eat with a friend, when the urge to smoke a
cigarette hit me like a white hot flame.
As I walked out of the food court, I notice a very pretty large breasted
brunette in a very short skirt.

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I light up a cigarette and sit at the table next to her at an angle. You
always want to set up your daytime seated approaches, so that you are at an
angle to the girl. This makes it much easier to actually be heard when you
open.
She coughed l
oudl
yandIsai
d
Geez if you wanted me to put the cigarette
out
,youcoul
dhavej
ustsai
dsomet
hi
ng.

She laughs and we start talking. Turns out she


sanenvi
r
onment
al
i
standI
makef
unofherf
ort
hat
.It
el
lherI

m act
ual
l
yt
heenemyoft
heenvi
r
onment
andt
hati
twoul
dneverwor
koutbet
weenusbecauseIdon
tr
ecycl
eand
purposely litter. At this point I stub my cigarette out on the floor to provide a
dramatic example of my littering.
She had moved down to Miami from Nebraska, so I tease her a bit about
that, before I start talking to her about my perceived differences between the
Midwest and everywhere else. I frame her as being a really nice friendly girl,
becauseshe
sf
r
om t
heMi
dwest
.Igr
oundmysel
fbyt
el
l
i
ngherst
or
i
esabout
my sisters, my traveling and my writing.
Atsomepoi
ntIdi
squal
i
f
ybyt
el
l
i
ngherI

m ahor
r
i
bl
eper
sont
hatwi
l
lkeep
trying to get her into bed, and she tells meshedoesn
tt
hi
nkI

mt
hatbad.
I
t

son.It
el
lherIhavet
ogoputsomemoneyi
nt
hemet
erwher
emycar
is and ask her to tag along. Remember movement is the key to all quick
escal
at
i
ons.Wewal
kovert
omycarar
mi
nar
m,andasI

mt
r
yi
ngt
oconvince
hert
ocomewi
t
hmet
omypl
ace,sheget
saphonecal
lf
r
om af
r
i
endshe
s
meeting.
I get her phone number and invite her to an art gallery opening next week.
Now we
r
ei
nt
of
ol
l
ow upandphonegame. Here are the best excerpts:
S:SoI

mt
r
yi
ng to sleep and for some reason I wanted to text you
goodni
ght
.Whi
chi
swei
r
dcauseIdon
tr
eal
l
yknow you.Isuspect
you
r
eusi
ngni
nj
amagi
conmeandI

m notaf
an.Goodni
ght
!
G: LOL good luck with that sleep! Night
S: Why Would I need luck? Becauseyou
r
eusi
ngsomeki
ndofvoodooon
mewher
ei
t

sgonnamakemest
ayupandt
hi
nkaboutyou?I

m ont
o
yourevi
lwaysandwi
l
lnotbet
akenadvant
ageof
Notagai
n
G:Lolsoundsl
i
keyou
vedoneapr
et
t
ygoodj
obont
hatoneyour
sel
f
.
Makes my job easy.
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S: Oh you really think so? Such a bad girl underneath all the
environmentalism.
G:I

m notevengoi
ngt
ocommentont
hat
.
S: That

spr
obabl
yagoodt
hi
ng. It

dbel
i
keNebr
askansgonewi
l
d.
G: You wish.
S:Maybe,butI

m pr
et
t
ysur
eyoucoul
dn
thandl
ewhatI

mt
hi
nki
ng
G:Ohr
eal
l
y
S:YeahbutI

m ahuget
easesoI

m goi
ngt
ol
eaveyouwi
t
hyour
i
magi
nat
i
onnow SeeyaTomorni
ght
.Sl
eepwel
l:
P
We ended up meeting up, after she asked me what she should wear. (A
jeans skirt and tank top is always a good choice weather accommodating.)
We go on my standard date to the photography galleries and bar. Then I
invite her back to my place to take photos.
During the walk home she comments on how much I must want to kiss
her
,becauseI

vebeenst
ar
i
ngat her lips. I pull her into me and we make out
on the street.
When we get back to my place I push her against a wall in my apartment,
pin her hands above her head and make out with her. I also put my hand up
herski
r
t
.She
ssoaki
ngwetsoIphysi
cal
l
ypick her up, take her into the
bedroom and you can imagine what happened from there.

THE KURGAN LR: THE HBCONSULTANT


I
t

sr
eal
l
yi
nt
er
est
i
ng;t
hi
sj
our
neyi
nt
opua-dom. I was lucky enough
to be friends with Sinn and Fastlife who taught me a lot about pick up.
As I am Asian American and pushing 45. Who would have thought that
t
hatdi
dn
t matter in the end. I love Caucasian women who are in the 21
to 27 age range. Because of my skill set, I am currently dating a 25 year
old HB8. I am very happy with having choice in my life.
Her
e
sani
mpor
t
antsar
get
hathappenedr
i
ghtatt
het
i
mewhenI
started to get really good.
So, my wing calls me on the phone and tells me that there is a party in
Irvine, and that I should go. This is a new wing and he wings well, so I say,
why not. A filtered venue, I am deadly in these types of venues.

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A filtered venue is a venue where you have something in common


with everyone there and thus a bit of rapport established.
IhaveaDay2wi
t
hHB23year
ol
dpsychmaj
oronTuesday.If
i
gur
edt
hatI

d
try to get a lay in this weekend so that I would be more relaxed and
comfortable for the Tuesday day2. I also had another day2 that Thursday with
Hbgrocerygirl.
So, all the hard work I was doing sarging was paying off big time.
I had systematically eliminated all of my sticking points, one by one. Most
notable sticking points I had eliminated were these: creating my own routine
stack, placing negs in critical points in the stack, being playful, teasing the
target, leading and kino-ing.
After I had made those corrections, my game exploded and became pretty
tight. On top of this, I had really made an effort on working on my innergame.
At the same time, I was making my life exciting by going out to clubs, bars,
traveling, and going to filtered venues. I was magnetically drawing in women
just by my lifestyle. It was crazy. Thanks Sinn and Fastlife!
Wel
l
,It
hi
nkal
otofguysi
nt
hecommuni
t
yoverl
ookwhatIcal
l
f
i
l
t
er
ed
venues.
Af
i
l
t
er
edvenuei
sanyvenuewher
epeopl
ehavesomet
hi
ngi
n
common with each other.
Unlike a club or bar, a cold approach venue, people just go there and really
have no common reason of going there per se.
By contrast, a party for example, would be filtered because everyone
knows the host of the party. You have the host in common with the rest of the
par
t
yat
t
endees.That

sacr
uci
alel
ement
,because it creates instant trust and
rapport with the women there.
So, all the sets that you do at a cold approach venue prepare you for these
filtered venues, where your sarge matters more. The quality of women is a lot
better in filtered venues anyway.
The trick with filtered venues is to actively seek these places out. Here are
the ones I frequent: Art shows, yoga, college courses or campuses, parties,
book readings, and online dating, just to name a few.
At any rate, in the case of this party, the hostwasmywi
ng
sgoodf
r
i
end.
So,i
twasl
i
keTD oncest
at
ed,
I
twasl
i
keshoot
i
ngf
i
shi
nabar
r
el
.

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The night was just crazy. The interesting thing about filtered venues is that
I was peacock-ed, and that was a total DHV. Most guys are pathetic slobs, and
t
heywonderwhygi
r
l
sdon
tgi
vet
hem t
het
i
meofday.
I sarged about 4 girls. Let me give you the highlights of the night:
Number closed the first girl. She was a 6.5 and was way too into me. I
used her as a pivot. There was a guy that tried to Amog me, but I tapped
danced all over his face. He was trying to move in on my sarges, so, I just
sai
dt
hi
s,
Thi
sguyi
ssocool
.Ican
tbel
i
evehe
savi
r
gi
n!
Whoaaaa.
Everyone laughed. He just shrank away into oblivion and left me alone the
rest of the night.
Sarged a hot blonde chick that was a bit drunk. I keno-ed the shit out of
her. I tried to isolate, made out, but her friend whisked her away. She had
started talking about her husband anyway. Whatever.
There was this other woman who was about a 7.3 teacher that was swing
dancing at the party. Whatever. She was cute though. She was taller than
me(
5
11)
.I

veal
waysbeeni
nt
ot
al
l
ergi
r
l
s.So,Ist
ar
t
edt
osar
geher
.
(The interesting thing here was that I just ran attract material with banter
mixed with qualification, then got right into comfort routines. Super easy
compared to a club. I have to work 10 times harder in a club or bar to get
the same results.) Number closed her. I thought that she was into me, and
set up a day2. Later, that week, when I called her, Her boyfriend answered
her cell phone. I was like WTF. He was such a chode; he told me he was at
the party with her. I thought he was just her dance partner. I was
massively Keno-i
ngheri
nf
r
ontofhi
m,andhedi
dn
tdoorsayanyt
hi
ng.
But he picks up her phone. Weird.
I think I sarged 2 more girls, but things were getting a bit hazy because I
was drinking. The interesting thing was that the best sarge that I will have
that would lead the lay was towards the end of the night. Here it is:
So, I was just sitting there waiting by the bathroom waiting to take a leak.
I saw my target and I used a banter line on her. This whole sarge was just
made up of banter lines and normal conversation. The funny thing was that
the only thing I did use was qualification.

Banter is a form of flirty teasing. The term was coined by Pickup101.Her


e
s
someexampl
es:
Idon
tknow whoyourl
astboyf
r
i
endwas,buthe did not
spankyouenough.

You girls are TROUBLE!

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The target was some consultant for some math thing. Whatever. Later
af
t
ersex,t
henextday,shesai
dt
hatshesl
eptwi
t
hmebecause...
I
under
st
oodher
.
Hummm ...qual
i
f
i
cat
i
on.
Her
e
show t
hei
ni
t
i
alsar
gewent
:
Kurgan: Hey,Icant
el
l
,you
r
et
r
oubl
e.Ihavet
okeepmyeyeonyou.I

m
not that easy you know. I have a heart and mind.
HBconsultant: Who are you? Do you know (the host).
Kurgan: Saypl
ease...Kur
gan.You
r
eaggr
essi
ve.Youknow,mymom
always warned me about you girls. Wait, are you as adventurous as you
are aggressive. What

st
hemostadvent
ur
oust
hi
ngyou
vedonei
nt
hel
ast
si
xmont
h,anddon
tsayr
unni
ngwi
t
hsci
ssor
s.
HBconsultant: Well, I just got back from Taiwan on a business trip this
last week.
Kurgan: OMG.That

st
ot
al
l
ycool
.Ir
eal
l
yl
i
kewomenwhoar
e
adventurous. I just got back from New York. Do you like Sex In The City?
HBconsultant: I love that show. I watch it every week with my friends.
I
t

sonDVD.Icanr
el
at
et
ot
heshow.
Kurgan: I can tell. You are such a dork. I bet you have 100 shoes in your
closet. You are like a cute little Carrie Bradshawall into shoes.
HBconsultant: Hahaha!
Kurgan: You know, your first impression really sucked, but the more I get
to know you, the more I like you.
HBconsultant: So, what do you do for a living . . . .
And on and on, it went. It was a pretty easy sarge. I number closed her
and sold her on a day2 for tomorrow.
The Next Day:
I woke up with kinda a headache from too much wine, but it was not that
bad. By the time I got home (crashed at my wings place), it was time to text
my Tuesday day2 with HB23yearoldpsychmajor. I was running a series of cold
reads on her via text. I told her that I would tell her what her answers mean
when I see her on the day2.
Anyway, it was about 12pm noon, so I text HBconsultant. Haha. I di
dn
t
even remember her name from the night before because I talked to so many
girls!

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She text me back and we set up a daytime day2. I really wanted to get this
lay so that I could go into the day2 with HB23yearoldpsychmajor totally
r
el
axed.I
ft
hatdi
dn
t pan out, I still had a day2 with Hbgrocerygirl that
Thursday.
Anyway, HBconsultant comes over. She knocks on my door. I run out, but
then I pretend to have forgotten my wallet and have her come into my
apartment while I get my wallet (thanks Sinn and Fastlife). She comes in, but
Isayl
et

sgo.Myapar
t
menti
ssqueakycl
eant
hankst
omymai
ds(
Il
ovemy
maids).
We go to BJs Pizza and have some pizza and drinks. The whole time I am
leading her, telling her where we are going to eat, where we are going to sit. I
start keno-ing her. I used my standard d2 routines. All standard fare. She is
soi
nt
ome,Idon
thavet
obounceherf
oramul
t
i
pl
evenuechange.

This is a key point. You want to have a standard date that you do all the time. That
way you can get used to all the different contingencies and develop ways to handle
them.
After lunch, I invite her back to my place. She agrees.
We get back to my place and we sit on my futon. I start to keno-ing her like
crazy and she stops me. LMR. Hummm.
I stop andsay,
Hey,haveyouwat
chedKate And Leopold? She says,

No.
Cool
.
I put it in, then, about five minutes later, I start to initiate the Keno again.
I get to her boobs, but then she stops me again.
Isay,
Boy,you
r
esoaggr
essi
ve.
Shest
ar
t
sgi
vi
ngmet
he
f
r
i
ends
bul
l
shi
t
.I

ml
i
keWTF.I

mt
hi
nki
ngIhaveaday2wi
t
h
HB23yearoldpsychmajor and I want to get the ball rolling by laying
HBconsultant.
So, I say this, and to be honest with you, I was amazed I said this. But I
r
emember
edwat
chi
ngZan
sDVD,andhesai
dt
hat
Honest
y is the best
aphrodisiac a womanwi
l
lwant
.

Kurgan:
Honest
l
y,Ir
eal
l
ydi
dn
ti
nvi
t
eyouher
ef
oryourf
r
i
endshi
p.I
have a lot of friends already. I am really sexually attracted to you and I
want to fuck you. If you just wantt
ogot
hef
r
i
endsr
out
e,t
hat

scoolt
oo.

(Whooaaaaa! Can you believe I said that?)

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This is what I call prepping. Kurgan is letting the girl know what to expect
from him if they keep hanging out. Now the girl has a choice to make, she
can have sex or not. But she knows that Kurgan will continue to escalate.
Howe
v
erhes
of
t
ensi
tbyl
e
t
t
i
ngherk
nowt
ha
thewon
tbepus
hy
.
You want to know what she did? She started to unbutton my True Religion
Jeans!!! HAHA! We got it on!
HBconsultant was a totally kinky girl. She did stuff to me that I have never
exper
i
enced.Ishoul
dhavecal
l
edhert
heki
nkyconsul
t
ant
,butt
hat

st
oo
clich. It was actually pretty cool though. Who would have thought?
Well, the moral of the story? Filtered venues rule and be honest to your
target about your desires as a man and never apologize for it.
--Kurgan

I
fy
ou
r
eapuaov
er40+a
ndl
i
k
eg
i
r
l
si
nt
hei
r20sa
nd/
ory
oua
r
eami
nor
i
t
y
that likes Caucasian women, there are special obstacles to overcome. If you
want more info on the Kurgan, who specializes on these issues, go to his
website www.astonishingdatingsecrets.com or email him at
kurganpua@gmail.com.

ONLINE GAME BREAKDOWN:


Online game is useful for a couple of different reasons in building your
game.
The first thing that online game can help you with is getting started. A lot
ofguyshavecr
i
ppl
i
ngappr
oachanxi
et
y.Meani
ngt
heycan
tevengetoutof
the house or interact with women in any way other than the complete
suppl
i
cat
i
ont
hey
r
eal
r
eadyusedt
odoi
ng.Onl
i
necanhel
pwi
t
ht
hi
s,because
you can SAFELY practice teasing, breaking rapport, and be a little cockier. This
can help you to work out the ins and outs of the beginning stages of game.
You can also practice leading conversations. Now none of this will help much in
the field but it can start to build your confidence with women and show you
how women respond to different forms of communication.

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The second way online game helps you, is in practicing dates. Dates are a
unique skill set unto themselves. I gave you what I consider to be the
definitive rules of dating in the breakdown on dates at the end of the first
chapter. But a lot of the times beginners cannot get dates for the first few
mont
hs.Sot
heydon
tgetachancet
opr
act
i
cet
hei
rdat
i
ngski
l
l
s.
It is way easier to get dates online than it is from cold approach. The
reason for this is because any girl who spends a lot of time online or is on a
dat
i
ngser
vi
cei
sact
i
vel
yl
ooki
ngt
ohookup.Soi
t

smucheasi
ert
ogett
hem
out and you can get a ton of practice, so that when you finally get girls on
dat
esf
r
om col
dappr
oach,you
l
lknow whatt
odo.
The last benefit of online game refers to my theory of three different
streams. The idea for the three streams theory came from something I heard
on a financial program one day. They said that the average millionaire has 7
different streams of income.
Naturally since I apply everything to game, I thought about how many
different streams of women you would need to live a life of sexual abundance.
After talking with other gurus like Brad P, Captain Jack, AFC Adam and more, I
came up with the three streams theory.
The three streams theory simply means that no more than a third of your
goal girls should come from any particular stream of meeting women. Thus
the ideal amount of streams is three. That means at any given time you
should have at least three ways of meeting women. This can be any
combination from social circle game, to being set up by friends to cold
approach and online, etc. The idea is that for a balanced lifestyle you should
be aiming to have at least three streams of women into your life. Online is the
easiest one to establish.
Ok,sonow t
hatweknow whyweshoul
duseonl
i
negame,l
et

st
al
k
about...

MY 5 RULES OF ONLINE GAME


Rule # 1: Youar
eonl
yasgoodasyourpi
ct
ur
es.Let

s face it looks are a little


mor
ei
mpor
t
antonl
i
ne,becauseyoucan
tr
eadsub-communications. The flip
si
deoft
hi
si
st
hatyoucancont
r
olhow youl
ooki
nyourphot
os.Her
e
show.
Pick out 5 or 6 different photos of you in cool situations. I hate the
prof
essi
onalphot
osunl
esst
heyar
easceneoryou
r
eonanupscal
edat
i
ng
site. So find cool photos from your real life. Then put all of them on
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www.Hotornot.com . This is a cheesy dating site that allows users to rate


people on a 1-10 scale. Every picture wi
l
lgetadi
f
f
er
entr
anki
ng.I

ve
personally been rated anywhere from a 3.6 to a 9.2. Pick the highest rated
phot
oandt
hat

st
heonet
ouseasyourmai
ni
magei
nyourpr
of
i
l
e.
Rule # 2: Make your profile weird. This is the big difference between a god
and bad profile. What we want to do online is differentiate ourselves from
EVERYl
amoguywhol
i
kest
o
angoutwi
t
hf
r
i
endsandpar
t
y!
Thi
si
swher
ei
t
pays to be a little quirky and ironic. You want to have a few obvious jokes in
your profile. In my profile I sayI

m
ki
ndal
i
keTupaceexceptwi
t
houtt
hej
ai
l
th
thing and the thug life tattoos.
I also list my interest as ranging from 18
century Russian literature to being pretentious. The idea is to stand out and
seem different, and fun.
Rule # 3: Show you
r
enott
aki
ngonl
i
nedat
i
ngt
ooser
i
ousl
y.Thi
si
skey.
Even I a comic book nerd, thought internet dating was for losers. There is a
definite stigma towards internet dating. It is considered by many to be the last
straw in dating, having replaced the bl
i
nddat
e.Soi
t

si
mper
at
i
vet
hatwe
demonst
r
at
et
hatwear
eonl
i
nef
orsel
famusementnotbecausewecan
tf
i
nd
another way to get laid.
Rule # 4: Pick good titles for your messages. The title of your message is
even more important than the content of the message itself. You have to be
able to make the girl open the message to have any chance of getting her.
You want to pick something that is funny, or intriguing, while staying away
from anything too generic or lame. Some of my recent message titles have
been.
Ninjas are inf
actbet
t
ert
hanmonkeys.Don
tknow aboutt
hat
,I
challenge you,et
c.
.
.
Ther
e
smor
et
ot
hi
s,but think embedded hooks.
Rule # 5: Moveupt
hei
nt
i
macyscal
e.TheSi
nn
sofAt
t
r
act
i
onI
nt
i
macyscal
e
for online dating goes as fol
l
ows.TheSi
nn
sOfAt
t
r
act
i
onOnl
i
neI
nt
i
macy
scale goes like this. 1. Winks, pokes, etc.. 2. Messages on a dating or social
networking site 3. Instant messenger 4. Text 5. Phone calls 6. Real life. We
want to move to the phone by the third message. It becomes really hard to
set up a meeting online and eventually all emotional momentum is lost. The
ideal pattern is one message to start the interaction, one to amplify the
interaction, and one to close to the phone.

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