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Healing With the MastersTM Presents:

The DAILY WORK TELESEMINAR Volume III Gregg Braden– March 23, 2009

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The Daily Work Teleseminar – March 23, 2009: Gregg Braden

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Jennifer:

New York Times bestselling author Gregg Braden is internationally renowned as a pioneer in
bridging science and spirituality. Following a very successful career as a computer geologist for
Phillips Petroleum during the 1970s energy crisis he became a senior computer systems designer
for Martin Marietta Defense Systems during the last year of the cold war. In 1991 he was
appointed the first technical operations manager for Cisco Systems where he led the
development of the global support team that assures the reliability of today’s internet. So for
more than 20 years Gregg has searched high mountain village, remote monasteries and
forgotten texts to uncover their timeless secrets. Today his work has led such paradigm-
shattering books as The Isaiah Effect, The God Code, The Divine Matrix and The Spontaneous
Healing of Belief which was released last year. It’s about shattering the paradigm of false limits.
Gregg’s work is now published in 17 languages in 27 countries and shows us beyond any
reasonable doubt that the key to our future lies in the wisdom of our past. He continues that
with his new book In Fractal Time: The Secret of 2012 and A New World Age. Very exciting title.
Very interesting to many. And Gregg told me yesterday that it looks like he’s going to be on the
New York Times bestseller list by next week which is very exciting because it also shows I think
the global interest in this topic. So Gregg merges the modern discovery of nature’s patterns,
fractals with the ancient view of cyclic universe, the result of the powerful model of time, fractal
time and a realistic window into what we can expect from our lives and for the world as we
approach 2012, the end of the current world age and beyond. We have the opportunity to
choose our future. Can we create a new epoch of peace, cooperation and healing is definitely
the question that we’ll be exploring tonight. So Gregg, thank you once again for joining us on
Healing WithThe Masters. We are delighted to have you back again. Last year’s call was the last
of the sessions and it was probably one of the most powerful. It’s like we created a little moment
of coherence on that call I think.

Gregg:

Jennifer, first I am absolutely thrilled to be on this program tonight. I just want to thank you for
inviting me back. I was on last fall and it seems like it’s only been a few months. But we’ve got a
whole new book and a lot of new material to cover. So I want to thank you first just for being
such a gracious host because our time is going to go quickly and I may not get to do it at the end.
And then I want to thank you for your dedication in all the work that it takes to put this kind of a
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program together, your vision that had to happen before that. And I want to thank every single
person that’s on this call tonight. I want to let you know how much I love you and I love all that
you’ve done in your world and your lives to bring us to the point where we are on this planet
today. And these calls are so important because this is where change begins. It takes five to eight
years for new ideas to trickle down through our textbooks into the classrooms and become
accepted broadly in academia. And the kinds of change we’re talking about right now is
happening so quickly, five to eight years later it’s all over. So we have this rare, precious,
beautiful opportunity of a little over an hour together tonight to cut right to the bottom of a lot
of myths, a lot of misunderstandings about our time in history, great cycles of time, and the
opportunities that are available to every one of us to literally cast a vote of consciousness in
terms of where we’re going and how this time in history, this rare pivotal moment that we’re all
feeling right now in our lives, how this turns out. Because every one of the ancient traditions
says we’re writing the ending of this chapter in our history while we’re being given the
challenges and nobody knows how it’s going to come out. We’re choosing it. So Jennifer I want
to thank you and say those things as we go into our program tonight. Jennifer:

Wow. Thank you so much. You’re so gracious as always. And I do want to mention that you
mentioned to me yesterday that one of the audios of your book seem to be selling equally if not
better than the book itself. And I would like to point out to everyone so that they’re kind of
holding this consciousness a little bit, I believe that Gregg has a very healing energy in his aura
and in how he presents things. And in particular that comes out in his voice. So I was just kind of
getting the audience to kind of open their hearts a little bit and open their ears to allow the
energy of Gregg’s voice and vision to enter you. So kind of just enter a bit of a meditative state.
Take a nice deep breath everyone and open yourself to this information because it’s really
wonderful and profound. So let’s get started, shall we?

Gregg:

Absolutely. I’m going to follow your lead. And we can go anywhere you choose to go for this next
hour.

Jennifer:

Well, let’s go with 2012. What is 2012 all about/

Gregg:

Wow. This is fascinating for me. I was actually working as a senior computer software designer
during the last years of the Cold War in Denver Colorado where it’s snowing right this minute in
the mid 1980’s when someone asked me that question Jennifer. They asked me what I thought
about 2012. And I’ve got to be absolutely honest I had no clue what 2012 is. It was a year I
thought. And I said what’s the big deal about 2012. And they said it’s a special mystical year. And
I thought why not a really cool even round number like 2000 or 2020 maybe. Why 2012. And of
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And I began a journey to understand what that date meant to me. And I quickly understood and
discovered that the only way that date was going to make any sense was if I began to understand
huge cycles of time and how earth’s relationship to other heavenly bodies changes within those
cycles of time and how those changes bring profound changes to the physical reality of planet
earth and the people that are living during those periods of time. It’s a journey that continues. It
has been 22 years in the making. The book Fractal Time: The Secret of 2012 and The New World
Age, what I knew as of the time that this book was being written in 2007 and 2008. And it all
centers around our relationship to these powerful bodies of energy in the heavens and how we
go through these cyclic changes in our lives. So what came very quickly, the bottom line for me is
that I discovered that earth does go through cyclic changes. And each time the cycles occurred,
Jennifer, the conditions for each new cycle are very similar, not identical, but they’re similar to
the conditions that have already happened in the past. And what that told me was that whatever
is going to happen on this 2012 date, the mystical end date of the last cycle of the Mayan
calendar, whatever is going to happen on that date or in that zone of time, maybe not on that
specific day, to some degree has already happened in the past. And if we know how to read the
cycles of time, if we know how to look in the past we can give ourselves some really concrete
ideas, factual ideas based in factual discoveries of what we can expect. Because for many
people, and as I travel the world I’m finding this, and I’m sure a lot of our listeners are finding the
same thing. I think to a large extent we’re speaking to the choir tonight. I’m going to call all of us
on this call the choir because we talk about this stuff all the time. But what I’m finding is as I
travel the world there are a lot of people that don’t talk about this stuff all the time. And the first
insight that they’re having into the mystery of 2012 is coming through the very frightening
documentaries that are being carried on the cable channels. And if they miss those there is a
Hollywood full length motion picture complete with very frightening special effects that’s going
to be released toward the end of 2009 simply titled 2012. And all of these very frightening
images are portraying, literally portraying the end of the world as we know it now. And there are
survival groups throughout the world in North America, in Europe, in Australia, that have already
gone into bunkers and taken provisions because they believe we are so close to what they have
perceived and interpreted as the end of the world. So in the 80’s when I would ask people, I
would say what does this date mean to you, for every person I asked I got different ideas. Some
people told me it’s the end of the world and other people literally said it’s the beginning of a
thousand years of peace and they couldn’t wait for it to get here. I knew it probably was going to
be both so my man brain wanted to know which is it? How could I make sense of what was
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be discussing tonight. So I would like to begin. Could I share just three discoveries that modern
science has made in the last few years that link us into the ancient wisdom and the traditions of
this date. Are you okay if we talk about that first? Jennifer:

Yes, please. Go for it.

Gregg:

Well, one of the things I found quickly was that almost universally ancient texts and traditions
have always talked about our time in history. History points now. They say something big is going
to happen. But those traditions generally live close to the earth. They are not technological
traditions. So they left clues and signs in terms of how we would know when this pivotal point
was arriving. They left those clues in terms of signs of nature. So for example when a white
buffalo is born on the plains of North America or when the seasons change and you can’t grow
corn in Nebraska in the middle of August anymore or a blue star appears in the sky. Those are
very cool signs and they’re meaningful but to a scientist it makes him crazy because you can do
anything definitive with such a generalized sign. They’re open to speculation. We quickly found
that the Mayans however, the ancient Mayans were the only civilization that we know of so far,
there could be others, we have not found those yet to the best of my knowledge, that developed
a system of timekeeping that was so accurate and it is based in numbers that link to verifiable
phenomenon. The numbers link to things that we can confirm in the heavens. Alignments
between planets and star systems, the solstice, the winter solstice of December 21, 2012 for
example that marks the end of this great cycle that we’re experiencing right now. The Mayans
used these numbers and they were more precise than anything we developed until the 20th
century with computers and satellites. Now we could probably do a whole program, Jennifer, at
some point about how did they know. Who were they? Where did they come from? Where did
they get that information? But it’s another topic. But they left a legacy to us. And they began a
countdown. And the countdown shows that we are living a moment in time that only five
generations in recorded human history have ever experienced, only five generations. And the
last human that walked the earth and experienced what we are about to experience now with
this great cycle lived 1700 years before the Biblical exodus from Egypt. That’s how long ago it
was before this has happened. And this is important to know because it means probably no one
living today has a direct memory of the last time we went through this cycle. Probably. I don’t
think there are any 5,000-year old people out there. There could be.

Jennifer:

You never know.

Gregg:

You never know. I’m on a 200-year plan so that’s only as far as I’m looking right now. So what we
now know is that we are living the close of a rare cycle that is 5 Copyright 2008, all rights
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marked by verifiable phenomenon. This cycle began in 3114 BC. It ends with the winter solstice
on December 21 of 2012 AD. It’s a cycle that’s 5,125 years long. This cycle is the fifth of five such
cycles that make an even bigger cycle that’s about 26,000 years long called the precession of the
equinoxes. And this 26,000-year cycle is the cycle that describes a wobble that earth does in the
heavens, a long slow wobble from one side to another. And as earth wobbles over this 26,000-
year period what happens is if you’re sitting here on planet earth and you’re looking at the stars,
the scenery changes over that 26,000 years because earth’s tilt, earth wobble is changing. So
somehow the Mayans knew this. They knew that we were at the end of not only a 5,000-year
cycle but that we were at the last of five of those cycles. So we are about to live this rare
moment of both the close of a 5,000 as well as the close of a 26,000-year cycle. So when I began
to understand that my question was the same – what’s the big deal? Why is that important? And
this is where these discoveries that I mentioned come in. Because modern science in the last few
years has confirmed what the ancients were telling us in non-scientific language. Number one is
that there is a powerful source of energy at the very center, at the core, at the hub of our Milky
Way galaxy. A powerful source of magnetic energy. Some ancient traditions called this the great
central sun. And that that source of energy has a powerful influence on life on planet earth.
That’s the first discovery. Maybe that to us intuitively we say yes, we’ve always known that. But
this is modern science in peer reviewed journals confirming. That’s discovery number one. A
source of energy that influences earth. Number two is that the effects of that energy change on
a cyclic basis over a long period of time. And that’s a big discovery for modern science. And
number three, that those cycles can be measured and calculated and predicted. And those three
discoveries give new meaning to what our ancestors were saying to us. And it makes total sense.
When we are at one point in our orbit in the Milky Way around this source of energy we’re
further away and the wobble tilts us away from this energy source so it affects us less. Where we
are right now is that we are relatively closer. We’re tilting toward the energy source. And
December 21 of the year 2012 marks the point in the tilt where we are in the direct alignment,
we’ve got a straight shot, unimpeded access to the energy, the magnetic fields of energy that are
coming from that source to planet earth. In the past what we know is geologically that this field
of energy has brought big changes on the earth. But they don’t happen in a day because we’re
talking about these huge systems. We’re talking about solar systems and galaxies and planets.
And as they come into that alignment it doesn’t happen at a day. It happens over longer periods
of time. And the reason I’m saying this is because we are already well into the 2012 zone of
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and the frightening ones that the prophecies and the predictions have always talked about. So
rather than waiting for those things and fearing them coming three years from now, this is now
2009, what we know is that we’re already living some of the major magnitude earthquakes and
more of them than we’ve ever seen in recorded history. And we’re already living the tsunamis
that are wiping entire cities off of the shorelines and super storms that are taking cities and
villages from the coasts. We’re already living multiple raging fires that we cannot control on
different continents at the same time. We’re already living millions of people dying from a
disease that we have no cure for. We’re already living the changes in the weather patterns that
prevent us from growing food the way we used to. And we all know that’s not the only thing
that’s happening. Sure, all these things are happening but there’s a lot of really good things
happening on our planet right now. So rather than focus on all the frightening things that we’re
told are going to happen, to me it helps if we bear in mind that we’re already seeing many of
those things now. But before the end of this call tonight I’m going to share yet two more
discoveries that tell each of us how we are directly linked to the field of energy that regulates
the conditions of life on earth. And we’re linked in a way that allows us to do something inside of
our hearts that literally helps to smooth the chaos of this field of energy. And the only way that
we can accomplish this is by working together. That’s where we’re going to go as we go through
our program tonight. So that was a long answer to a short question and a lot of material. But I
want to do it early so we can tie into that now. Jennifer:

No, thank you. That’s a good foundation for us. So I know that that’s kind of the infrastructure in
a way of what we’re experiencing. That we’re having kind of an astrological celestial event that’s
part of a 26,000-year cycle of five 5,125 yearlong processes.

Gregg:

Wow, you were taking notes. You’re really good.

Jennifer:

So for those in the past who have experienced these cycles, what have they shown us? And how
have they kind of dealt with them and overcome them? And what mistakes have they made and
what can we learn from them?

Gregg:

Jennifer, you are so good, you could not have asked a better question. And for me this is the
reason I wrote the book. It’s the reason I’m so passionate about what we’re sharing. And it’s the
reason that it makes any sense to know this at all. It doesn’t do any good to know about the
cycles if you can’t do anything about them.

Jennifer:

Yes. You know, at this stage, we had Steven Lewis on on Tuesday and he’s talking about this in a
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seeing a decrease in the life force of individuals almost globally. And there is some fear going on
around this. So I know that there is more here than just fear. So yes, let’s learn from what others
have done and what can we do to maybe avoid the same consequences. Gregg:

This is the deal for me. Again my man brain needs facts.

Jennifer:

I love your man brain.

Gregg:
Well we all have a man brain to some degree. And that serves us well. There are some cultures
that don’t need facts. For example if we walk into a monastery in the highlands of Central China
and Tibet and I start talking to them about the facts of quantum theory and magnetic fields they
just giggle and say, “Why do you need to know that? Just live this way.”

Jennifer:

Yes.

Gregg:

And there are some people that are like that. But what I know is if we live in a western society
even if we think we don’t need facts when we hear something that makes sense to us there is a
mechanism, an acceptance mechanism in our psyche that opens and allows us to live in a way
that becomes aligned with what we’ve just heard is the facts. And we no longer have to expend
our own energy searching and questioning for the information. When it rings true we accept it
and now we get to live in a new way based on those facts. And that’s why I think it’s important
to do what we’re doing here tonight. So what I began to understand was this – the cycles of
time, this isn’t the first time earth has gone through one of these cycles. And before I worked in
the defense industry as a computer scientist I was a geologist as a computer scientist or a
computer scientist working in the field of geology. And what that told me is that we have places
on this planet where earth has preserved a library, a record of the history of every year on this
planet at least for the last 500,000 years. And one of those places is the ice cores or the ice caps
in Antarctica. Every year there’s a new layer of ice that’s deposited. And with that ice it captures
air bubbles of the atmosphere. And it captures literally the chemical elements that are present in
the air during that period of time. And from that we can learn about how strong earth’s
magnetic fields were the year that those things were captured. We can learn what were the
temperatures on the planet. Were the sea levels high or were the sea levels low. Were the ice
caps melting or were they freezing. Did the sun have a strong influence or weak influence. We
can learn all of those things geologically. And we can do that back to 500,000 years ago. Now for
humans we haven’t had big civilizations, we believe, for 500,000 years. So we look into the
archeological record. And we can go back in the archeological record 10,000 or 15,000 years and
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responding to these changes, what do we know about those civilizations. And that’s what I’ve
done in the book. So we talk about cycles of time in general in Fractal Time. And the key in
Fractal Time is if you know where to look in the past you have a good understanding of what you
can expect in the present and the future. And with that in mind we then apply these principles
specifically to the year 2012. And that’s what you and I are talking about tonight. And I know this
is a bottom line audience here tonight so I’m going to cut right to the bottom line, because our
time is really flying tonight Jennifer. Jennifer:

It is.

Gregg:

Our fractal time is flying tonight.

Jennifer:

Indeed. It’s a cycle with us.

Gregg:

It is. So what we find is when we go back in these records, if we know where to look, then we
know what to expect. And using the rhythms and the patterns of nature that govern life and time
we can do some very simple mathematics. I describe it in the book and I know a lot of people
aren’t into math in the book so I put that all in the appendices. And some people don’t even
want to look at the appendices so we’ve actually automated a way for you to do these
calculations on your own on the website in what’s called a time code calculator.

Jennifer:

I heard about that.

Gregg:

Yes. We’ll talk about that in a few minutes. But using the algorithms, using a simple math, using a
time code calculator, what we know is when we look at the key dates in the past, and when we
talk about cycles Jennifer these key dates are what are called seeds. So a seed is a date where an
event occurred that put into motion a pattern of energy that will repeat following natural
rhythms throughout time until something changes that cycle.

Jennifer:

And we can read that in the archeological and the physical database of the earth.

Gregg:

We can. And what’s even more, we can read it in our personal lives because our personal cycles
of love and hurt and betrayal and success and abundance, they all begin with a seed event that
leaves a strong emotional imprint. That puts into motion a cycle that will repeat in our personal
lives until something changes it. And you can calculate that using the calculator as well. We’ll talk
about that in a few minutes.

Jennifer:

Wow cool.

Gregg:

But the bottom line for what we can expect, when I went back and looked at the ice cores for
Antarctica, I looked at two dates. One of them is 1155 BC is one of the first seed dates. Another
was is 13,824 BC is a second seed date. And how we got to those is described in the book in the
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natural rhythms are the seeds that put into motion the events that we can expect to experience
in the year 2012 and around that zone of time. And what makes it so interesting is when I looked
at the magnetic field of the earth, the magnetic strength, earth’s magnetic fields, you can think
of those as the buffer or the blanket that protects us from solar radiation from solar wind from
all the high energy particles in the cosmos that are coming on our way. It’s like a big warm fuzzy
blanket that takes good care of us. Jennifer:

That’s an interesting way to look at it.

Gregg:

That’s my man brain looking for a good intuitive way to describe what my man brain is seeing. So
what we know is that blanket that protects us, when we go through these cycles, because of the
tilt of the earth and where we are, the blanket becomes a little weaker. And as the blanket gets
weaker we have greater influence from these sources of energy. So what we find is that in both
of our seed dates, both 1155 BC and 13,824 BC, the magnetic fields of the earth became weaker
just as they have done in the last 130 years now that we know. Our magnetic fields are weaker
now than they’ve been in the last 2,000 years. But don’t worry because they’re still really, really
strong. They’re just weaker than they have been in past times. And we know that when they get
weaker it allows more solar energy to penetrate onto the earth which is exactly what’s
happening right now. And it happened in both 1155 BC and 13,824 BC. When that occurs the
oceans heat up a little bit, the atmosphere heats up a little bit, which is precisely what we’re
experiencing right now. And that warming is usually between one to two degrees Celsius which
is right where we are right now. And when that happens the ice on both poles begins to melt.
And that ice is holding a lot of water. Water has got to go somewhere. It goes into the oceans.
The sea level begins to rise. And the cold water changes the temperature in the oceans and that
changes climate which begins to change weather patterns. And all of a sudden you can’t grow
corn in Nebraska maybe in August the way you have in the past. So when we look at these
parameters we’ve discovered magnetic strength, solar output, climate status and ice. We’ve
discovered all of those. When we look in the past at the seeds dates for the year 2012 what we
find is that although earth has definitely gone through a dramatic shift in the last 130 years or so
that that shift has brought us precisely into alignment with where it appears we always are when
we reach this point in the cycle. And now it’s important to look and see how civilizations in the
past have responded to the changes in their world that we’re finding in ours to see if they made
mistakes then that we can recognize and avoid making in our time right now. For me this is what
begins to tell the story. First of all when we go back 13,824 BC we didn’t have any big civilizations
then. So the one I’m going to look at first in our program tonight is 1155 BC. If there’s 10
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any historians on this line you know that date. It’s the exact date the calculator gave us based on
the year 2012 using the rhythms of nature. It also is the exact date that one of the greatest
civilizations in the face of the earth and the history of our world collapsed when they faced the
same kinds of challenges then that we’re facing in our cycle now. They didn’t understand why
the changes were happening. And in their fear the way they responded to the changes led to the
end of a great civilization. So what happened was the climate changed because of where they
were in the cycle. They couldn’t grow food the same way. They began fighting with their
neighbors. And they entered into multiple wars with different countries that spread their armies
so thin that they couldn’t maintain these wars. And the economy was stretched so much that the
economy collapsed. They went broke trying to sustain the wars, trying to gather the diminishing
resources from a changing world. And they collapsed and that was the end of one of the greatest
dynasties and greatest super powers of that time on the face of the earth. Now archeologically,
Jennifer, this is really interesting, archeologists now are finding remnants of highly advanced
civilizations that go back further than history says we should have advanced civilizations. And
interestingly enough they’re finding them and they’re correlating those dates with the cycle
before Egypt collapsed, the time before that. And these particular remnants are being found in a
very interesting area between what is now India and Pakistan on what is called the Rajasthan
Plains. And I’ve talked about this in some other books. . Highly advanced civilization, hot and
cold running water, closed sewage systems, glass windows, a system of writing that to this date
no one has ever translated. So if anyone listening tonight wants some homework there is a
language that has never been decoded that very probably tells us what happened to them so
that maybe we could avoid the mistakes in our time. But even if we never understand the
language, the cycles are giving us insight because they collapsed in what appears to be a
wartime setting. And this is what archeologists are saying that occurred when their cycle brought
about a change in their world. So what we’re seeing, and the parallels Jennifer are striking. You
look at what’s happening, I’m not saying it’s the same, but look at what’s happening in our world
right now. We are engaged in multiple wars and a lot of them are over resources that are simply
not sustainable resources. World economies are going broke in part trying to sustain the military
and the weapons development and all of the energy it takes to maintain those kinds of wars.
And we are precisely in alignment with the physical conditions. The magnetic fields of the earth
right now are measured at the unit of about 7.5 on a scale that’s called a VDAM scale.
Historically the magnetic fields of the earth have fallen to between 5.25 and 10.5 when we go
through these cycles. 7.5 puts us right in line. Jennifer:

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Gregg:

Yes. So for me what this says to me is that although the changes are intense and they appear
abrupt to us, when you look at the big picture we’re right in line with where we always are when
we go through these changes. And I am less concerned about the natural phenomenon. I think
we’ll get through those just fine. What concerns me is the lesson that these past civilizations
apparently did not learn. And it’s about how we treat one another as a family on this planet
when we go through the greatest challenges of 5,000 years. And this is the question that we’re
posing to our audience. This is our opportunity. And here is what I believe is happening. I think if
we as a planet, if we can recognize that working together to get through this intense yet brief
period of change, if we can do this now because we need one another and we need to to get
through it, to survive, if we can do it now I think we’re going to find that we like working
together. And that we’ll continue to do it as a way of life because we’re better people and we
create a better world even when we’re no longer challenged with the conditions of the end of a
great cycle. And I think this may be the gift of our 2012 window of opportunity. The conditions
that come with the end of this great world age cycle are pushing us to evaluate what it is that
works and what’s sustainable, what doesn’t work and what’s not sustainable, and how we can
work together to get all of us through this little, this narrow window of time. And the things that
are not sustainable, the things that don’t work, stop doing them. Don’t put more energy into it.
The things that do, let’s do more of them. And I think one of the greatest opportunities that we
have, physicists look at a little moment in time between cycles, when one cycle ends and the
next begins, there is a little time that physicists call a choice point. And for example, the inhale
and the exhale that all of us are taking right now. There is a place between where neither one of
those exist. In the esoteric traditions that’s a powerful moment where all possibilities live. And if
we think about this 2012 5,000-year window of time then when that cycle ends by definition we
begin a new cycle. But there’s a place between where neither exist. And it’s at that point where
our choices are more potent than in any other time in the cycle. And that’s when we may
choose. We look at all the frightening things that may happen. And that’s when we may choose
to walk away from that way of life, to say that we choose as a planet to outgrow the habit of war
to solve our problems. We choose to outgrow the use of nuclear weapons on civilian populations
for example. Or we choose to stop basing our economy on something that’s not sustainable ever
expanding markets and people profiting only by others’ loss. That’s the way our economy works
now. That’s not sustainable. So I think what we’re seeing consciously or not Jennifer, I think
we’re seeing this global reevaluation, and I’m not saying everyone is aware of why it’s
happening, but the conditions of the earth are forcing this reevaluation. When the weather
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shift we’re seeing now. And the greed that’s not sustainable surfaced very quickly. And I think
this is what we’re seeing now. The Mayans said something very similar to this in another
terminology. They didn’t know what our world would look like 2,000 years ago. But they said
that this cycle has been akin to what they would call a gestation cycle. And that we are like the
embryo in the womb of our mother. And at the end of this 5,000-year cycle the gestation is over
and we are birthed into a new way of being. They didn’t say it’s the end of the world. It’s the end
of a world age. And in this new way of being they said you’re probably not going to recognize the
world or yourselves because the changes and the challenges have forced us to shift the way we
live our lives. But I think we’re better people and we have a better world because of it. So this is I
believe the value of the 2012 window of opportunity – a choice point created by natural
phenomenon. And by understanding cycles of time we’re now giving ourselves the gift of looking
into the past to know what we can realistically expect. And based on that we can learn from the
past and do the things that makes sense to do as we move into this new way of being. And for all
intents and purposes it’s already happening. We’re well into this shift. And I think that’s the
opportunity that we’re looking at right now. I just wanted to make sure that we covered all of
that before we start taking questions. Jennifer:

Really, it’s not long at all. But there’s something that you talk about in all of your books. You’ve
shown us that if we change our life, our beliefs, our thoughts we can change our body and
ultimately can change the universe. I mean the elements of the earth are the same elements of
our body. And so that’s part of this choice point is it not? That’s part of the opportunity for us as
individuals to contribute to not being overwhelmed by this and now be thrown into fear with
this, and with that fear can create cataclysms in many ways.

Gregg:

Can I quote you on that? You said that beautifully. The answer is absolutely. But this leads us to
the last little piece that I know I think we’re going to have some questions in some other
discussion. But at the very beginning I promised I said there was a third piece here. And I want to
make sure that we touch on this before the end of our evening. And that is yet another new
discovery. And this is the reason I emphasized the role of the magnetic fields of the earth in
these changes. The magnetic fields of the earth link all life and even things that aren’t alive.
Everything from an atom to a molecule to the DNA of a blade of grass and hamsters and goldfish
and dogs and cats and people and stars, we are all linked through these very powerful fields of
magnetic. And the magnetic fields, the geomagnetic fields of the earth, when they rise and fall
they regulate the way life happens on our planet right now. There’s actually a new peer reviewed
research article in the very prestigious journal Nature, I talk about it in the book and also I’ve got
a link on the website, that now is linking the rise and fall of dinosaurs, the 65 million-year cycle
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magnetic fields of the earth and our relationship to this energy source at the center of the Milky
Way. So we’re looking at cycles within cycles within cycles. Here’s why that’s important. I’ll just
tell a quick story. September 11, 2001, 9/11 we had a satellite in the northern hemisphere and
one in the southern hemisphere, they’re there today, that are called the GEOS, Geosynchronous
Orbital something satellites. Their sole job is to send back a reading to the computers on the
earth every 30 minutes of how strong the magnetic fields of the earth really are. And the earth’s
magnetic fields, they ebb and flow at reasonable rates throughout the day. 9/11 scientists saw a
big glitch, a big jump in the magnetic fields of the earth from both satellites in the northern and
southern hemisphere. We showed this in the live programs and I’ll give you a link in a minute.
We can look at it on the websites. And their question was what in the world happened on earth,
what could possibly happen on earth that could influence the magnetic field of the entire planet
to such a degree that the satellites 22,000 miles above the surface of the earth are picking this
up, what is happening. And when they realized that it was the collective emotion of six billion
people on the planet in response to the tragedy of 9/11 this is a big deal in the realm of science
because it means that somehow we are intimately connected to the very fields of the earth that
sustain life on the earth. Not metaphorically, not figuratively, this is a real concrete tangible link.
And this led to a series of studies and research projects. The bottom line is the link is created
through the magnetic field of the human heart. Each of us, everyone listening right now, your
heart was built, it was designed and from the first moment you took your first breath on this
planet, you have been engaged in a conversation with the very fields of this planet that sustain
all life even if you didn’t know you were having a conversation. And what the research now has
shown is that when we create very precise qualities of emotion in our hearts, not in our minds,
we got to get out of our heads to do this, but when we create very precise qualities of emotion
in our hearts we set up what is called an experience of coherence. And we talked about this a
little bit in the last program. If you’re a scientist coherence is something you can measure
electrically. It’s 0.10 cycles per second, 0.10 hertz between the heart and the brain. And we are
learning now to create the right kinds of emotions so that we have that coherence in our bodies.
That’s just good for us. When we do, we think better, we’re healthier, our anti-aging hormones
kick in, we have very strong immune systems, it’s just a good way to live. But what the studies
now are showing, Jennifer, and this is what brings it all back to the first five minutes of our
conversation tonight, is that when many people get together and create a collective field of
coherence, that we couple with the very field of the earth that is undergoing the greatest change
that holds the greatest threat to the way we live our lives. And by simply living from a heart
based perspective, emotions like care, like gratitude, like appreciation, and very precise
techniques that will help us get to that place, we literally can smooth out the rough edges of the
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are called stress waves that Steven Lewis I think is referring to. The stress waves that are rippling
through the conscious field of earth as people respond to so much change they can’t even keep
up with it. But now we know that coherence is the key to sustaining life within our bodies and
also literally gives everyone of us direct access to the very field that is affected most by this cyclic
change. And it’s the same field that sustains life on this planet. And I think it’s no accident,
Jennifer, that only now at the end of this cycle when the experts tell us we’re faced with the
greatest threats and challenges that humankind has ever faced in 5,000 years of history, the
greatest number of challenges and the greatest magnitude of challenges, that at the same time
we are learning the language of the human heart that allows us to communicate with the fields
that are going through the change. And for the first time we have a science based initiative called
Global Coherence Initiative, GCI that is linking people in a family, in a community not unlike the
community we have with us tonight. And for people that would like to know more about this I’m
going to encourage you, this is all free, if you go to my website www.GreggBraden.com in the
middle of the homepage there’s a link. It says click here to learn about Global Coherence. It will
give you a slide show. And it gives you the opportunity, you can do everything from passively
watching this project, and I’ll describe it in a minute, to actually becoming a member of the
community that’s learning to create this coherence. And part of the webinars and part of the
experiments that are happening, even one step further, becoming trained yourself so that you
can train other people in sharing the gift of coherence in our lives. Jennifer:

You know, what’s interesting is that the guest next week on the show is Eric Pearl who talks
about the field quite a bit, and he talks about your material, and Howard Martin.

Gregg:

Well, I talked to Howard earlier today and I wanted to give a little plug for Howard, the vice
president of this division of HeartMath and the HeartMath Institute, they are the pioneers in
exploring heart based technologies. They are the ones heading up this non-profit project. And
for transparency I am both on the steering committee as well as the advisory board for this
project because I believe so strongly of it. Howard will be a guest I think it’s in early April on this
program.

Jennifer:

Yes, next Thursday.

Gregg:

Okay. And he will speak specifically about this Global Coherence Initiative. I want everyone to
know right now you can go out there tonight and learn about it. And it’s a two-tier, two-layer
project. One layer, Jennifer, that just fascinated me is they’ve learned to build the sensors that
can actually read these magnetic fields and put the images day by day on the websites so we can
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programs and the ways to come together as a community to share this coherence and to
positively affect our transition, our time in history. And the beauty is we don’t have to change
anything we do. You don’t have to change the way you pray or the way you meditate or what
you believe. You don’t have to follow a practice. It’s just about learning to do what you’re already
doing from a heart based rather than a brain based perspective. And that’s the big hurdle for a
lot of people. We covered a lot of ground and that’s like the closure or the completion of why
this 2012 is so powerful. It’s a choice point and now we have the language to choose. And it’s a
language of our most ancient and cherished spiritual traditions based on the heart. What a
beautify symmetry. Jennifer:

Yes. Wow.

Gregg:

Okay. So that was the dry run. So let’s do the real program now. We’ll start from the top and
we’ll just do the real thing.

Jennifer:

So you know the same thing happened I the last call which is as you’re talking I can feel the
hearts opening. I can feel the fear dissipating and the level of confidence in our own abilities to
change our lives and to change global consciousness as a result of that opening up like a lotus
flower. And it’s no accident that that’s the East Indian tradition is the lotus flower. And you also
talked about that moment kind of in between. And I call that the still point in my own healing
work that I do with clients which is there is that moment of stillness where all opportunities and
all healing is available, I mean usually where the most eruptions occur at the same time. And so
there’s just so many disciplines here. And I know that you’ve tracked many, many different
cultures and ancient traditions so see these patterns that are happening. And I so appreciate you
sharing them with us this evening in such a clear and concise way.

Gregg:

Thank you, Jennifer. You know, the thing is there are a lot of people on this planet and we all
think differently. We all learn differently. And that’s the beauty of so many different traditions. If
we can get past judging one is right or wrong from the other one and embrace the wisdom that
they all bring to the table, what we find is that for 5,000 years one way or another we’ve all been
preparing for a moment in time that we are going to live in this generation, the close of a great
world age, not the end of the world, but the end of a world age. And by definition, because it’s a
cycle, the end of anything is the beginning of what comes next. And we could just as easily say
we are giving birth to a sixth world age. We’re giving birth to a new 5,125-year long cycle. And I
am not sugarcoating this. I’m not saying this is a bed of roses or we don’t have challenges and
that people are not suffering. But I am saying that I believe. This is almost like a really very cool
science fiction narrative.

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Gregg:

Where people on a world began a journey so long ago that no one living today even remembers
the beginning of the journey or even why we’re on the journey. And that it’s in the last moments
of the journey when the greatest threats to our survival as individuals, our way of life, our
civilization and our planet, when the greatest threats show up that we discover that the way to
successfully complete our journey is to embrace the great gift that we had all along. And that’s
the gift of the language of our heart that speaks to the systems that are going through the
change. Isn’t that beautiful.

Jennifer:

Oh my god, yes. And the language of the heart, and you talked about this before, is kindness and
compassion and a life fully lived with consciousness.
Gregg:

Howard Martin, I don’t want to steal his thunder, he’s going to talk about some very, very cool
things. But one of the new discoveries is that the human heart literally has its own brain-like
tissue.

Jennifer:

Oh my god.

Gregg:

Neural tissue in the heart. And Howard will talk to us. And please, everyone, Howard Martin is
worth spending an evening of your time listening to. He is funny, he is a brilliant man, he’s got a
beautiful heart. And he will talk about what is called heart intelligence. Heart intelligence is
where we get out of our mind in the presence of the great decisions and choices that we have to
make and go into this neural center in our heart. And it’s kind of like a muscle that maybe you’re
not used to using or some are very used to it. So some people are saying what’s the big deal.
And others are saying, “Huh?” But when we use it a few times it becomes almost second nature.
It’s like remembering something that we forgot a long time ago. And it’s this heart based
intelligence that I believe is the basis for a successful civilization. And if we’re going to learn from
the mistakes of our past, and I mean these were very successful powerful civilizations. Jennifer,
they have even found electrical wires in clay tubes running underground and batteries that could
hold a current. So we think they even had forms of electricity which maybe was used for lighting.
We don’t know that. They had highly advanced architecture, mathematics, they had all these
things. But had they learned or evolved to the point where it made sense for humans to
cooperate and work together in the greatest challenges, and are we making that mistake now.
And this is the choice that we’re all making right now.

Jennifer:

Yes. That’s the question that I have for you from your perspective. I mean have we reached that
critical mass? I think that you’ve talked in other places, I’ve heard you talk about that we’ve
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Gregg:

I’m going to answer these in reverse because there were three questions. The whole idea of
critical mass, we’re actually rewriting the rules for how we deal with the challenges of our time.
And the way we’re rewriting them, Jennifer, a lot of people say they don’t like what’s happening
in the world and they’re going to fight what’s happening in the world. When we choose with the
heart we’re not fighting a system that exists, we’re saying that system is there, God bless it,
we’re choosing another way of being. And there is a huge, huge energetic advantage to choosing
a way of being rather than resisting what is already in place.

Jennifer:

So well said.

Gregg:

And when we make those choices, if there are any Star Trek fans here.

Jennifer:

I am.

Gregg:

Okay, maybe you know this. Do you remember in one of the early episodes in Star Trek Academy
there was a puzzle that every starship person, any of the officers had to solve this problem.

Jennifer:

And they failed.

Gregg:

It was called the unsolvable problem. And I think it was Kirk, the only way that he solved it, you
couldn’t solve the problem, he rewrote the rules that defined it.

Jennifer:

He cheated.

Gregg:

Well. So we’re rewriting the rules.

Jennifer:
Got it.

Gregg:

In this polarity world if we’re going to fight the things, and in a three dimensional level
sometimes it makes sense to fight, but I’m saying that now we’re looking at a new way of being
with consciousness. We’re moving beyond battling, guys bumping chests and governments and
civilizations. We’re now going to the source of the energy. And a powerful choice is different
than an aggressive resistance. And I think this is one of the things that we’re learning. And when
people choose with the heart, and this is why I’m answering the question this way, then the old
linear hundredth monkey idea no longer applies. You don’t have to have a certain number of
people. What happens is a relatively few people who clearly concisely speak with the language
of the heart, that field is experienced by many. And not every one of the six billion people on the
earth have to make the choice to benefit. In all honesty this is why I began the program the way I
did, thanking you and thanking our listeners, because there are a lot of people tonight that
simply do not have the luxury to sit by a phone or a computer and do what we’re doing. They’re
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together. By us learning and embracing the gift of life and the power of heart based language on
the planet right now, when we, a relatively few number of people learn to do that really well,
everyone benefits because there is no them and us. And we talk about people in government
making those choices. Those people are there because we empowered them to be there. There
is no them and us. There is a we. And they’re plugged into the same fields that we are. And they
feel the ripple effects and the stress waves and they feel the coherence that we create. And we
never have to even say a word. You don’t have to make a big deal about it saying, “We’re going
to smooth up the coherence of the planet through the Global Coherence Initiative.” We don’t
have to do that. Jennifer:

We don’t have to march on Washington as the Coherence Alliance.

Gregg:

No, but it’s fun. It’s fun to do that. But this is subtle and it’s powerful. And this is the irony of our
time in history of learning that we’re actually part of the fields that are undergoing the change.
And when we live in that heart centered way cooperation makes a lot of sense. So for example
right now, a lot of people don’t know this because the economy is overshadowing it, the United
States government, right now Congress is determining whether or not to appropriate hundreds
of billions of dollars to refurbish our nuclear arsenal right now. Because the triggers were built in
the 50’s and 60’s, they deteriorate, they get old. That’s a lot of money. And there was a time in
our history where the world was so insane that maybe it made sense to have that arsenal. But
there’s also a time right now where just possibly if we walked away from the expenditures for
those weapons and set an example for the rest of the world and said, “We’re living a rare
moment of crisis on our planet. Let’s take that money and help one another” and other
countries then didn’t feel threatened and could do the same thing, that could just possibly set
the template for a beautiful, beautiful level of cooperation on this planet that we haven’t seen if
ever for a very long time

Jennifer:

And do you think that’s possible Gregg?

Gregg:

I’m so encouraged by what I’m seeing. I don’t know why. I think we are taking a rough road to a
better world. I really believe that. Why we took this long circuitous route that has caused so
much suffering and why we’ve all had to hurt in our lives, and every person listening tonight,
everyone of you, the only way you could be here is to have a lot of hurt in your life because the
world that we’re living in is a world that hasn’t made sense to us. I know all of you have been
through it in one way or another. Economically, in personal relationships, financially, we’ve all
lost people and things that we love and we hold dear. Why? What’s that all about? Why have we
gone through all of that? Now I don’t have the answer for that. But what I do know is that we’re
here for much more than to see this planet and our species perish three years from now. And
that we have the power, we have the technology, and I think we’re actually all really good

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people. And when you see us doing things that don’t make any sense I think it comes from a
place of hurt. Jennifer:

Yes, I agree. I completely agree.

Gregg:

There were 400 studies that were done after 9/11 to find out if humans are inherently a violent
species. And all 400 studies came back with the same answer Jennifer. They said that we’re
actually a peaceful peace-loving species. However, there are three conditions where we will
betray our true nature of peace and we will become violent. And those three conditions are
when we feel personally threatened, when we feel that our families are threatened or when we
feel that our way of life is threatened. And you look at the conditions in the world where the
greatest terror is occurring and all three of those conditions apply to those people. And I’m not
justifying it. I’m not condoning it. I’m not saying that it is the reason these things are happening.
But I’m saying if people are looking for a way to make sense out of the senseless we might begin
looking at how to help one another, feel safe personally, feel safe for our families and feel that
whatever our little way of life is that we can preserve that personally while we work together
collectively for a new way to live on this planet.

Jennifer:

And I have this wonderful community of people that people seem to be attracted to this
community seem to have that kind of an energy. And I would just ask them to even take it that
much further and kind of look at the people within the community, look at the speakers, look at
me even as someone who is holding an intention of honor, of integrity, of support, of love. And I
mean I think I sometimes get some pretty wild emails from people, I’m sure you do to Gregg,
where people immediately assume that you’re trying to do them harm. And I know that that
comes from a place of hurt. And I know that the work I do with people, it comes from a place of
trauma usually. And I think that there’s an opportunity for us, everyone on this call, right in this
moment to make a little agreement with our self. I get to do this for myself too. I have those
moments myself. Where we get to make an agreement with ourselves that I’m going to give
someone the benefit of the doubt until the doubt is removed. There are still people out there
who aren’t necessarily in a place that they can offer that to us.

Gregg:

People come to me and they say it can’t be that easy. It’s got to be about more than what we’re
talking about. And what I know is this – is that we’ve learned a way of being that served us so
well it got us to the point where we are right now.

Jennifer:

Right. And it protected us in many ways.

Gregg:

Exactly. And it made sense. And at the same time for that to go away you can’t simply stop one
way of being in an instant and then say, “Now what do we do?” and figure out a new way. The
new way has to develop while the old way is in place. There has to be that overlap. And then
when the old way falls away the new structures are already in place. And this is why we have
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planet, God bless them, that are doing both. Our military is buying us precious time of a
relatively peaceful world. It could be a lot worse. Do we have the wisdom to know what to do
with that peace? When we choose that peace in our lives their job becomes obsolete. And this is
what we’re working for. And that way I think we’re all working together. We’re all working
together doing the only thing we know how to do to build a better world and to become good
people. Jennifer:

Yes. Okay. So Theresa asked a question. And I know that other people are kind of feeling this too
on this call which is can one person really, really make a difference. If so what then can I do to
help make a positive shift for the greater whole?

Gregg:

I want to say absolutely, one person can make a difference, one person clearly cleanly
embodying these principles in their everyday sphere of life. And you don’t have to broadcast
that you’re doing it. You don’t have to go around with a big badge saying, “I believe in the new
way.” It’s just by example. I’ve seen this happen. I’ve seen one person do this in a corporate
boardroom. And other people in that boardroom responded to the way this one person was
solving problems. And from the corporation other corporations linked to the United Nations
were influenced and the decisions were made all based on changes that happened in one
meeting one day from one person choosing to work cooperatively and to come from a heart
centered solution rather than bumping chests, yelling and saying the kinds of things that people
say when they’re angry. One person did that. I’ve seen that happen.

Jennifer:

And it doesn’t have to be the CEO in the boardroom.

Gregg:

It wasn’t a CEO. It was actually an advisor that the CEO had asked to come in. And this was in the
defense industry during the Cold War years. And most of the people in the boardroom were
retired military. Most of them were male. Most of them had learned to solve problems by
yelling, pounding fists and with brute force. That was just their path. And I saw someone come in
that had a completely different approach, didn’t announce it, didn’t broadcast it, just began
solving the problems differently. And everyone responded unconsciously. It’s kind of like you
could be driving to church with your friends on a Sunday morning and listen to the oldies and
really rocking out on the road, and the minute you walk into that church there’s a different vibe
going on in that room. And everyone responds. The people in your group who five seconds ago
you were rocking to the oldies and now you’ve gone within and you’ve become in a very, very
different space. It’s unconscious. And that’s the way it works in the boardroom. And I’m just
using that as an example.

Jennifer:

Yes. And it’s a perfect example. And so every single person on this call, if you come from a heart
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Gregg:

The thing with HeartMath is they’re giving us modern techniques that are verifiable. There are
feedback mechanisms that Howard will talk about that tell us we don’t have to guess when
we’re on coherence. You could have a little device.

Jennifer:

Yes. I have the emWave. I got it right after our last call.

Gregg:

Absolutely. And this is what makes this different. For the first time, I mean everybody here is
probably involved in these calls where you get an email that says at noon on Saturday go into
your heart and feel peace in the Middle East and we all do it. It probably helps. But realistically
we don’t know when we’re in coherence and we don’t know how many of us are really in
coherence. The beauty of what HeartMath has pioneered is we now have the technology that
can be loaded onto your laptop or in a little device that size of a cell phone that tells us with no
questions when we’re in coherence. And then we know what feeling it takes to make that
happen. Then we don’t need the gadget anymore. I’m not a big gadget person. Give that gadget
to somebody else.

Jennifer:

Yes. It trains you on what it feels like to be in coherence.

Gregg:

Absolutely. First of all, are we on a hard stop or can we go longer?

Jennifer:

We can go just a few minutes longer. At least five minutes.

Gregg:

Here’s a true story and I talk about it in the book. And this is the synchronicity of the universe
putting these things together because the players never knew what was happening. So it was the
closest that we ever came during the Cold War to a nuclear exchange between the two
superpowers. And I’m going to share a story that we didn’t even know about until the end of the
Cold War when the former Soviet Union declassified their documents. 1983 the Cold War was
raging and there was this civilian airliner that strayed off course about 200 miles over Russia. It
was shot down by the Russian military mistakenly. They thought it was a spy plane. 265 civilians
including a United States congressmen were on that plane. Lawrence McDonald. And they were
all killed. And in the paranoia of the Cold War the Soviet Union thought that we would interpret
that as an act of war and that we would attack them. And in that paranoid thinking they said,
“We’ll beat them to a punch and we’ll surprise and attack them first.” It’s the closest that we
ever came to being surprised by a nuclear attack from another power. And if it had happened it
would have been a surprise because we didn’t even know they were planning it. Now here is the
flipside. And somewhere in heaven has got to be looking down at this and just shaking their
heads saying, “Look at these people on earth. What are they doing?” Because it happens that
precisely during this period of time the largest experiment in human consciousness testing the
power of creating peace was unfolding. And this was one of the TM experiments through the CD
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techniques, Transcendental Meditation experiments where they had 7,000 people that were
creating peace in their bodies using these CD techniques. And the effects were so profound
statistically that the effects were felt from Australia to Europe to the United States. They were
measured. They were documented. And it was precisely when we came the closest to having the
nuclear attack, and it would have been an exchange afterward, that the experiment happened.
And for reasons that no one has been able to explain cooler heads prevailed, everybody backed
off the trigger. And I think it is no accident that we backed away from that trigger precisely
during the days that the experiment was happening. I document this in the book. And I tell
people if they want to read more about that where they can. I think this is one of first times we
learned definitively that human consciousness in one place has a powerful and profound effect
that is not limited to the place where people are having that experience, and that peace was the
effect that came from feeling peace. And to me that opens the door to all the possibilities. Isn’t
that a cool story? Jennifer:
That is so cool. But someone asked an interesting question here. This actually happens to be the
foundation of my work too which is it’s not just being positive. Each of us have traumas and
negative and unconscious beliefs. And I think our goal is to access those, not stick our head in
the positive hand of life affirmations. But use the challenges that come up before us like this big
one is, and the little ones, they might be big for us though, as they show up in our lives, use
them to access that more negative content within us to release it, realign it, repattern it, let it go
so we can find easily and effortlessly more times of coherence. Do you think that’s true?

Gregg:

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Absolutely. I think that’s it. But the key, and this is what’s
maybe a little differently is when we move into this heart centered way of living and heart based
techniques many people have been conditioned to believe that it is a relaxation or a letting go or
almost a zoning out. And it is just the opposite. It is an active form of concentration to hold the
focus in a precise way. And this is where it’s useful to at least once go through the techniques
with a HeartMath trainer. Howard will talk to you about this. Don’t miss Howard’s program. I’m
going to be tuned in for Howard’s program.

Jennifer:

Awesome.

Gregg:

So it’s a very active form of concentration but it’s a concentration that holds the focus in the
human heart.

Jennifer:

Right. Okay. Oh my goodness. We are absolutely out of time. We’re about to get cut off. So for
those of you who are interested, I have a special link to Gregg’s book launch on March 17. And
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wonderful gifts from some people who are supporting this whole idea of 2012. It’s a beautiful
site too. There are all kinds of fun stuff on the site itself. And that’s if you go to
www.HealingWithTheMasters.com/gregg. And the email I just sent out prior to the show, if you
click on the link to his book that will also take you to that same site. And you can buy the book
and then you can take advantage of some, I think there’s a prize with Abraham Hicks too, isn’t
there? Gregg:

I have been on a book launch. I don’t know. I would say yes.

Jennifer:

I think so. I think it’s still available. So you can win a cruise if you access that site and you
purchase Gregg’s book. What a delight as always. I know that we’ve actually had moments of
coherence on the call. I can feel the energy that’s emanating from this group. Feel your hearts
right now everyone. And bring that heart energy to your life and everyone you meet. Thank you
so much Gregg. What a wonderful, wonderful program.

Gregg:

Jennifer, thank you for being such a gracious host. Thank you all of our guests. I want to say God
bless everyone. It’s not the end of the world. It’s the end of a great world age and the beginning
of what comes next. And we’re all part of it.

Jennifer:

So next Tuesday is going to be Eric Pearl from the Reconnection. And then Thursday’s call is with
Howard Martin from HeartMath. And that’s who Gregg has been speaking about. So join us in
those. If you’re interested in buying the series and owning this, just this talk alone and hearing
Gregg talk about it in this way is probably worth hearing again and again now and forever. You
can purchase it at www.HealingWithTheMasters.com/buy.htm. Thank you everyone. I love you
all. And thank you Gregg.

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