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HotS is the only game I play where there is no "Ready Check" on competitive
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I've played many similar style games, and all of them had one great thing in common that I
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DragonZaid  185 points 23 hours ago SUBREDDIT DISCORD
Absolutely. Overwatch is also lacking one, but I don't see that as as big of a problem with shorter queues
than HOTS typically, but having someone afk draft sucks. WIKI
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stuckinatrance  8 points 14 hours ago

Prepicking or queueing, especially in ranked, should never autopick your hero.
You should absolutely be required to manually lock in a pick. All this does is TWITCH (PRO PLAYERS)
prompt people running off and doing other things while the games are up. No one
is paying attention to comps or bans or game starts a lot of the time. Top
Doesn’t do it in league or dota for good reason.
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I like this idea in theory, but I also get irrationally angry when I forget to
lock in my pick in league and it makes me dodge because for 7 years the
game wasn't like that and I am very much not used to it
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I feel your pain, I do. I just think its a small price to pay to alleviate iHateToast_TV 7
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all the apathy with the pick/ban/afk phase of the game.
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& that is the biggest problem especially if that hero got picked/banned so the
player get a random hero. Which btw is not solved by this solution anyway.
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My friend hovered no heros, and was for all intents and purposes 'afk' and randomly
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There have been times where I've been afk, I come back to find myself not in HotS is the only game I play where
queue and I've been given leaver status for being AFK during draft. there is no "Ready Check" on
competitive queues.
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MissBeefy  7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) 629 points | 829 comments
It really depends on Elo, for me (about average skill level in both) OW is under a minute and clear
HotS is 15 minutes. I think both are too short for ready checks TBH but can understand them
being mandatory for ranked.
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ResseXx  8 points 21 hours ago
For me at masters EU server queue time is 13 mins at max (OW), but in hots at gold i
usually wait 510 mins
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olican101  2 points 21 hours ago
Bronze here. My OW comp queue takes seconds with my SO and TL on HOTS
sometimes takes literally hours.
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ResseXx  4 points 20 hours ago
Yeah TL queue time as a group of 2 is painfully long
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I dont understand why we can't just have a single queue. OW has a
single queue and it works fine. Ive even been placed with 5 man
premades and me as the only solo. Never had an issue.
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scionowns  1 point 19 hours ago
You will have an brain dead bot for the whole game in hots. Ow will just stop the game if
someone is not picking his hero. So it's necessary for hots to implement an I am ready
checkbox
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MissBeefy  5 points 19 hours ago
No if you don’t pick I’m draft you get kicked, penalized and the match is canceled.
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Mathara  1 point 15 hours ago
I've been playing OW for three weeks now, my que times are triple that of HOTS. So if it
is ELO based explain why it takes me 5 minutes to find a match in Quick Play on OW, but
1 minute to find a Hero League match??
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Antidote4Life  3 points 12 hours ago
I don't think I've ever sat in a 5 minute queue in overwatch in any game mode
since the games release. However, the inverse is I can't find a ranked game on
hots in under 5 minutes
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deathnep  1 point 8 hours ago
It takes longer for low lvl account. Once you get higher it gets better. My smurf is
always stuck on 5min and up to 10min for Mystery Heroes since matchmaker tries
to find new peeps (lvl ~50). My main acc with lvl 480 gets in game within 13min,
Mystery Heroes is almost instant.
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What????? My OW queues take seconds and my HOTS queues sometimes take hours. Which
region do you play on?
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YoreWelcome  1 point 14 hours ago
NA Central
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olican101  1 point 11 hours ago
Ahh, I'm on EU.
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kleoss146  1 point 10 hours ago
im on eu and never wait longer than a min tho
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Try TL as duo.
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kleoss146  1 point 7 hours ago
Well thats long for everyone
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StealthSpheesSheip  4 points 12 hours ago
Like why the FUCK does it not make you confirm your choice in draft?
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35cap3  43 points 19 hours ago
It's especially weired, because other Blizzard product World of Warcraft has LFG and LFR matchmaking
systems for instanced PvE content, that do have ready check before group is formed and instance/raid
instance begins loading.
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DMGXeraxus  12 points 14 hours ago
Importantly their PvP instances have it also.
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kemitche  6 points 12 hours ago
Devil's advocate: With WoW, the player can do "something else" in game while waiting for queue. That
might be a quest, crafting, etc many cases where the player will want 3060 seconds to finish what
they're doing before jumping into the dungeon.
(I don't think there's any harm in adding such a system to HotS and OW, though)
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rand0mstuf  2 points 9 hours ago
The ready check sound from WoW LFG is classic. It just gets me pumped thinking about it.
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EDL666  36 points 23 hours ago
Ya know what? I want this but only if the estimated wait time is 180+ seconds OR that the actual queue was
180+ seconds and have the question time out after 2 minutes or enable players to kick them with 2/3 of the
votes or something. I don’t want to wait 2 extra minutes in draft because someone went to the bathroom
when there was like 30 seconds of queue. But if you have me wait 20 minutes in queue, please let me have a
chance at a decent draft by waiting for people to come back before starting because nobody is waiting 20
minutes in front of their screen. I do the laundry, I eat, I watch YouTube, I do some cleaning, I understand
that others do similar things.
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l337hackzor  35 points 22 hours ago
Usually you have 30 seconds to click ready so it won't add much time.
If one person isn't ready everyone else keeps their place in queue. Generally this means that after you
click ready and someone else was AFK, your queue will pop shortly after again.
This is much faster compared to loading into a lobby and waiting for the person to kicked for not
picking. If the person is later in the draft it could be 5 minutes before they are kicked and then you'd
have to queue all over again, rather than keeping your place in line.
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EDL666  11 points 22 hours ago
Well I didn’t consider the option of keeping your place in queue, if we had that, I wouldn’t even
want the solution proposed on this thread, not having to wait another 20 minutes because
some jackass dodged the draft would be amazing!
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BoltorPrime420  19 points 21 hours ago
Its literally standard in every other moba, but you know... something something small
indie company, something something technology.
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Ketheres  H 5 points 21 hours ago
Even mobile mobas (some are even OK) tend to have those. But obviously some
never heard of Chinese company has more funds to pour into their game than
this small indie company called Blizzard.
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Kalulosu  [+1] 1 point 20 hours ago
While it's no excuse, if you're talking about Tencent, they litterally own
Riot and half of the gaming planet.
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NetEase, actually :P still a behemoth, though not on gaming side
And I knew about Rito and Tencent already
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eyevbeenthere2  1 point 19 hours ago
I think they were referring to the LoL ripoff games on mobile that
aren't owned by Tencent (Arena of Valor is owned by Tencent) like
Mobile Legends, Heroes Evolved, or other similar games.
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Kalulosu  [+1] 1 point 18 hours ago
That could be, I was just saying sometimes the "shitty
Chinese company" is actually not so small either :)
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EDL666  1 point 21 hours ago
I’m sure they’re doing their best(the devs) with whatever Blizzard is giving them.
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Gauntlet_of_Might  6 points 20 hours ago
I'm frankly sick of almost every game I play having some jagoff not be present at the start of the
game
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Yrmsteak  2 points 21 hours ago
I have forgotten I was in queue wayy too many times. I'd definitely play more ranked if it had ready
checks after a timer.
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whatevers1234  2 points 12 hours ago
Yeah I mean at this point a ready check would fuck this game even more. I Q up now and walk away
and make some food or take a piss and glance back every 30 seconds or so to see if draft has loaded.
I've only missed Q one time doing this when I was replacing my shower head and I had some issues
getting the old one out and I completely flaked on the fact I had Q'd up. This is out of 6k HL games.
These Q's are way to fucking long to not take the opportunity to go get something done real quick
while it's loading. If I lost the ability to do that then that would be it for me playing this game. I'm not
sitting around watching the thing like a hawk for 10mins for every game.
And to those who say watch youtube or reddit, yeah I've fucking done that...a lot. I'm literally running
out of shit to watch. These days at night I play chess vs a computer while I wait cause I've got literally
nothing else to do by that point.
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EDL666  1 point 9 hours ago
I don’t understand how your argument backs your position of “a ready check would fuck this
game even more”
Seems like the opposite to me.
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grippgoat  2 points 8 hours ago
If queue is only 30 seconds, go to the bathroom, and then queue.
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EDL666  [score hidden] 1 hour ago
Indeed, that is what I was implying.
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IPromiseIWont  19 points 1 day ago
How many "Ready" buttons should we press to really ensure we are at our keyboards?
"Ready"
"Ready?"
"You won't be AFK during Draft?"
"Are you sure?"
"Game will start within 5mins...you will be here right?"
"Draft mode, are you there?"
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TheBaconJedi  [S] 79 points 1 day ago
One to enter the queue, and one to confirm you are not in the bathroom playing Hearthstone when a
game is found.
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isunktheship  2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)
So.. per your example, you've gone to the bathroom. Do you suddenly regain control of your
bodily functions and race, barebutt, to your chair to draft?
How long must everyone wait before the room expires and they're pushed into yet another
queue people had already said they were "Ready" for?
Queue up, sit tight. You can tab over to literally any other app and Blizzard will remind you it's
time to play.
(I see downvotes, but no one's willing to explain why they think this is justified.. all this would
do is waste everyone's time.)
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Nekzar  2 points 8 hours ago
I will help you out.
With this system, ideally there follows a reQ feature if someone doesn't confirm.
Everyone who doesn't press yes, is thrown out of the Q and have to manually reQ when
they are ready.
Everyone who was at the expense of someone being afk, are automatically reQed and
has priority for new replacement players in the Q.
Confirmation box can be anything from 10 to 30 seconds, it is not intended to help
bathroomers to make it back in time, it is meant to filter those people out so they
don't get into a draft(or even game) they are not ready to participate in. So I would
personally be fine with 1015 seconds.
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isunktheship  1 point 8 hours ago
Ah, without requeue this made 0 sense, so thank you for explaining that.
That being said.. this could still be implicit, simply sensing my mouse movements,
tabbing, typing, etc would trigger the "I'm here flag"
Heck this system could already be implemented and we wouldn't know, unless
they added a "you afk'ed out of queue" banner on all the slackers.
I'm totally on board to punish people who break queues, especially when the draft
goes south "bad meta" or whatever. That should be considered leaving a game.
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38dedo  19 points 1 day ago
When there is a queue time not everyone is staying there to look at their screen. Its a great time to
get up and move your legs and go to the toilet. If you wanna sit and look at your screen for 180
seconda be my guest but before the draft starts i would like a button that will confirm that everyone is
present.
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DonkeyDong69  9 points 22 hours ago
Obviously this is not what the OP means. Are you intentionally playing dumb or is there some motive
to this slippery slope ploy?
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irisel  4 points 22 hours ago
The fuck are you even talking about? Jesus, calm down.
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FlurmSqurm  12 points 18 hours ago
They even do it in World of Warcraft, when 'Looking for Group' and 'Looking for Raid'.
Also implementing a 'prefered role'feature where you 'check' 2 roles (for example; Support/Assassin) would
greatly improve the matchmaking, as they could set up teams to cover all roles, so you don't get the last pick
"I can't heal" when everyone else has already locked assassins and tanks.
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DontEatSmurfs  12 points 14 hours ago
Im here to read a bunch of people who never played other MOBAs before explaining about how this "ready"
button is bad, just like they did during the voice coms debate
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Jamaz  4 points 13 hours ago
At least voice comms can be argued against by people who don't want to socialize and fear the
possibility of a poor experience. Being against a ready button holds absolutely no benefit whatsoever.
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mclemente26  2 points 8 hours ago
Or people that don't play Unranked/Ranked. Missing bans or having to requeue because someone is
AFK sucks.
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yoshi570  [+1] 9 points 23 hours ago
Not for me, many games fail to have one. But there should be one though.
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MacHans  7 points 21 hours ago
The fact that the game doesn't have an "Accept match"button over 3 years after release is just insane. It
almost feels like Blizzard is all like "naah! The other games have them and we want to be soooo different"
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DaveVoyles  6 points 16 hours ago
Agreed, they really need to add this. When average queues are 10 minutes long, you can't blame people for
wanting to get up for a moment.
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CallMeCabbage  5 points 13 hours ago
You found 1 of 50 missing features in HOTS, good job! Can you find them all?
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elmerion  3 points 15 hours ago
This seems like a non issue to me, i get someone afk the first minute every once in a while, or maybe miss a
ban in ranked but its not a big deal if it only happens once every 100 games. What i do hate is missing a
match after queueing for over 10 mins because i went to pee and missed a 10s window to press ready
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nanno3000  1 point 14 hours ago
so this. I love not having the ready check. And tbh, bans hardly matter till masters...
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RouaF  1 point 10 hours ago
100% agree with you. But looks like we are the minority :/
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bengunnugneb  1 points 9 hours ago
The majority opinion around here is typically wrong. They jump on the bandwagon and have so
little critical thought put into their suggestions I am actually embarrassed for them.
As many pointed out the queue times are already long AF, now these pansies want to put a 2nd
ready check at draft that if you don’t click you have to requeue. I mean fuuuuuuck that would
screw more people than it could possibly help.
Bunch fat lazy fucks who want to be anchored to their computers FOR nothing. Oh just watch
youtube or play another game? How about NO
I like to hit my weights or do laps in my house or some light yoga and the last thing I want is to
be chained to my keyboard to hit ready a SECOND time. Only a child would think that is a
reasonable thing to request.
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Rexoraptor  3 points 16 hours ago
Starcraft doesnt really have a ready check either.
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Bropps85  4 points 14 hours ago
Starcraft is most often a 1v1 game at the competitive level. Afking at start only hurts the person who
does it.
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Rexoraptor  2 points 13 hours ago
You are right, however having a small countdown after the loading screen would be nice, for
both team and 1v1 ladder.
Usually you find games really quickly but sometimes you'll wait a few mins.
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Extremuss  4 points 7 hours ago
The suggestion that has been around since day one of SC2 was, and is, a countdown
when the game starts. There are times when a player with a bad PC will be stuck with
the loading screen, have FPS drop at the start of the game and miss valuable mining
time.
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Atroveon  2 points 13 hours ago
I think it's funny that this is such a requested feature when League of Legends players have been asking for
it to be removed. And to those who are saying you'd get 30 seconds, that's unlikely. MMOs give you that
much time when in group finder, but most games like this give you about 58 seconds to click accept and
then you lose your spot in queue. So if you're afk when your match is ready, you'll be back in queue again
anyway and just won't dodge the game. It sounds like it would give you more freedom, but you still need to
be at your computer.
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DANESKII  4 points 19 hours ago
pls no
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I_wish_I_was_a_robot  2 points 18 hours ago
I mean, you're about to play a 1530 minute game. When you click the queue button you are saying you're
ready to go. If you have to use the bathroom or get some food or something, do that shit before you click the
ready button.
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ShesGotTheJack  7 points 17 hours ago
There's no way a player's circumstances can change in a 20 min queue, right?
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I_wish_I_was_a_robot  1 point 13 hours ago
You better have ample time to play a game after the queue, so no, your circumstances should
not change
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secret3332  6 points 13 hours ago
I've never been AFK in draft but sometimes I run to the bathroom or start cleaning my desk. I'm not
going to sit and stare at a timer for 10 minutes.
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I_wish_I_was_a_robot  1 point 13 hours ago
alttabbing is fine, these other people make it seem like they queue up then go out to dinner or
deliver a baby. If you're gonna play a ranked game you need to have 1 hour from the time you
queue up set aside to play it. Emergencies happen, sure, but they are the exception.
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Mati676  3 points 17 hours ago
I believe we are talking about Unranked Draft, Hero League and Team League.
I'm actually happy there is no "Ready Check". You will miss at most 12 bans (if you are banning) and it's
very likely you will be there when it's your pick. I can't count how many times I got 15 minutes penalty in
League, when I missed "ready check" like 45 times in a row (Yes, that happens. I'm really bad at it)
As for quick match... Who cares about quick match. And if you really do... Well, having afk for max. first 2
minutes of the game isn't that impactful, really. I can tell from experience, that "very early" early game
doesn't matter almost at all.
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MachateElasticWonder  3 points 16 hours ago
Missing 12 bans and being likely there for your pick is not good enough.
Don’t AFK. Or use a speaker to alert when you find a game.
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Mati676  1 point 16 hours ago
You assumed being AFK when the game is found is common thing, but in reality it is really not
(I covered RARE cases when it's happening).
What I meant with my previous reply is: In 1 to 100 games, missing 2 minutes of a game or 2
bans is not worth making another ready check.
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PotatoOfEarth  0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)
This could increase queue times more than you anticipate
Delay for people to press ready (let's say there's a 1 min accept window)
Delay for the whole requeue process upon someone missing the accept (potentially significant delay)
Indirect delay as the queuing population will be smaller (as a larger % of each player's time will be
spent in nonqueue (game time + idle time + accept window time))
It becomes a choice between two evils:
(a) Longer queues
(b) A larger portion of games have missed bans/picks (with many of them still resulting in a game)
Given that HOTS has match making population issues I would be cautious with pressing the issue
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PotatoOfEarth  4 points 16 hours ago
There's also a share of players who are at the keyboard but don't realize that they are banning
(happens to me frequently). The "ready check" does nothing for these cases
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Monchete99  M 5 points 15 hours ago
Yeah, the only thing that says that you're banning is a different sound effect but i think there
should be a voice line at the start of the draft whenever you're your team's leader (the one who
bans)
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isunktheship  2 points 13 hours ago
You clicked "Ready" once.. end of story.
Tab over to something else, the app automatically regains focus when it's time to draft/play.
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scoducks  1 point 12 hours ago
Most people tell me they went on a bio break when they miss bans. App doesn't open in your
kitchen/bathroom.
Edit: Not that I think that is valid, just so that's clear. Go pee, then click ready. Is very simple.
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jMS_44  2 points 12 hours ago
I mean, you literally need to click "ready" button to get into the queue.
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I think OP is referencing the fact that many players click "Ready" then walk away due to queue times.
The proposed solution to the AFK banner/first picker/whatever is then to add a second "Ready"
confirmation.
I am not a fan of this, but I think that other games implement it as a "Search for game" followed by a
"ready to play" to make the functions more clear and to prevent the AFK type situation that I
personally only encounter maybe 1 in 3040 games.
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jMS_44  3 points 12 hours ago
But that's solely on these players. If someone confirms he is ready to play and goes afk
anyways, who's fault is it?
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Brrryyycccee  2 points 22 hours ago
Like the ready button you have to press before you queue?
If you are up doing other stuff or have other things you need to do, maybe you should do them before you
start playing HoTS. Otherwise, you can easily Alt+Tab out and do other stuff without missing anything.
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But what if I fall in a coma during the couple seconds it takes to queue (or couple days, depending on
the region)?
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You mean that completely obscure region called EU? XD
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Ketheres  H 1 point 21 hours ago
I am still unsure whether we exist at all
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Try having a medical condition that makes you pop every hour~ and then sit through a 3 hour queue.
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theskad81  2 points 21 hours ago
Maybe instead of yet another “ready” button, just move people who miss draft at the last spot .. you missed
your selection, second chance to do it right in about 2 minutes. Maybe with shorter pick time. After that
leaver penalty.
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KrabbyEUW  5 points 20 hours ago
Why put them at the last spot? So you have to wait a whole heroselect for a player who left? Do it like
league: you need to lock in ur heroes. If you don't you dodge. Hots will need to not put people out of
the queue for that to work tho...
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Spoonfrag  2 points 20 hours ago
People would abuse wanting to be the last pick and would also slow down the draft unfortunately.
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delusionalstorm  0 points 18 hours ago
my queues can be 20 min+ youd soon find people in these categories missing the ready up so if you like to
cook or whatever during queue this could be a reason to quit entirely
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jhacksondiego  [+1] 2 points 17 hours ago
But it is ok to be there cooking when the game pops up, lose some bans, maybe get a 600pts penalty
for not picking a hero and wasting even more time for the other people that currently have to get in
the BACK of the queue manually when this happens, instead of automatically in the FRONT like Dota2
or LoL who have a check button?
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delusionalstorm  1 point 13 hours ago
i told the other guy ive never missed my pick, also i always afk while queueing and rarely miss
bans
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jhacksondiego  [+1] 1 point 12 hours ago
That is not the point. Doesn't matter if you are always there on time, there are people
that aren't. And a security system assuring everything is going as smoothly as possible
for everyone only makes your entire system better
[–]
tell that to my friend who had an hour queue yesterday
edit: also anyone missing a pick is super rare i almost never see it in diamond,
youre trying to solve something that isnt a problem, bans are rarely even missed
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Burndown9  1 point 16 hours ago
If you're not at your computer when the ready appears, you wouldn't be at your computer at draft.
You're already a leaver at that point, why make 9 other people waste their time waiting for a player
that isn't there?
[–]
ive literally never missed my draft
[–]
PotatoOfEarth  1 point 16 hours ago
Isn't the ban & hero select an indirect ready check? What's missing is automatic requeue that puts you at the
top of the queue.
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imyxle  1 point 13 hours ago
I have seen drafts where the banner misses the midban for whatever reason.
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bengunnugneb  1 point 13 hours ago
I do not want to be tied to my PC for 10mins to click ready!
I work out, walk around the house, pet my dog, and various other things while queued. If Have to be at my
computer for a ready check to pop and have 10secs to click it
I won’t play anymore, literally one of the reasons i don’t enjoy LEague of legends
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imyxle  1 point 13 hours ago
How do you know when your queue pops for HL? What if you are the banner and now you miss two
bans at the beginning?
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bengunnugneb  2 points 12 hours ago
I have ears and can hear the queue pop and/or see it with my eyes. Neither of which require
me to be at my keyboard to click ready.
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ogrer  1 point 13 hours ago
League has like 3 separate ready checks now before you get into a match, even for unranked.
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Blowfish1  1 point 12 hours ago
There are pro's and con's to this.
Lets say you and your friend have similar rank, you could then make sure to end up in the same game as you
both would get the "Ready Check" at the exact same time.
HOTS will automatically tab you in once a game has been found.
Queues aren't that long so there should be no excuse for being away.
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scoducks  2 points 12 hours ago
First off, I'm with you on queue times and just sticking around, but I think other people other places
find the queue times much too long. (I feel like the Australia/New Zealand region posts a complaint
every other week or so, for example).
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mclemente26  1 point 8 hours ago
you could then make sure to end up in the same game as you both would get the "Ready Check" at
the exact same time.
If the system would work like other MOBAs, you'd have to wait 1 minute to requeue if you just dodged
a game (with the penalty increasing if dodge more).
Queues aren't that long so there should be no excuse for being away.
It's better to miss a game and wait to requeue than to miss a ban or 600 ranked points.
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Blowfish1  0 points 6 hours ago
How hard is it to leave queue if you need to step away from the PC?
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raptur_jesus  1 point 12 hours ago
Alternative, there needs to be more... 'notice' to the player that they are picking or banning.
Furthermore, if they are AFK to pick or ban, then kick them...
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Calycae  1 point 11 hours ago
Because it takes 20~30 minutes to find a game on HL everyone's just alt tabbed
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AlbanianSun  1 point 11 hours ago
and i wouldnt change a thing. you queue when you are ready. when u need to take a shit u take a shit and
queue i dont know what you wanna do in that 5 120 seconds anyway except browsing shit
[–]
StretchyPlays  1 point 10 hours ago
It seems like such a silly thing. Why is it so hard for people to queue up and not walk away from their
computer? But yes I agree it is a necessary thing for MOBAs.
[–]
Malaix  1 point 10 hours ago
yeah blizz is like perpetually behind the ball on basic moba design. First they try to cut out draft mode to
save time, didnt work out, "QM balance" is still constantly complained about, and they thought they didnt
need a ranked mode and they ended up adding that. And they forgot to have bans before discovering yeah..
they need that... Add ready check to that list. Like I get that the Hots developers didn't want to make
blizzard league of legends, but that doesnt mean there isnt stuff to learn from its example...
[–]
smyger_  1 point 9 hours ago
Such an unbelievable design flaw from a company of such calibre. The customers time being wasted. Without
a sense of shame. It adds up. It's a painful surprise and reminder why the game is just not worth sinking
time into anymore. Waiting in ranked leaves just too much of a bitter taste, a painful surprise every time on
revisiting the game. There are better ways to solve this guaranteed. Idle checks, shorter times, pre
configuration etc. This on top of the nova changes no thanks.
[–]
theyetisc2  1 point 8 hours ago
Especially considering that my Q time has been set to 180 seconds regardless of what q i'm in, what time of
day it is, or anything else.
It always shows 180, even when qed with friends who will all have the same, accurate, time shown.
So I go to take a p, and it turns out the 180 second estimated wait was actually just 18 seconds...and so I
miss 12 bans depending on how fast other captain bans.
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WoodenEstablishment  2 points 20 hours ago
There is a ready button, it's called the queue button. If you press that you're accepting that you will be there
when the game is ready. If you can't be there, don't press it.
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Gauntlet_of_Might  7 points 20 hours ago
Cool, so what is the protocol for the other 4 players on the team when that fails?
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Fred_Dickler  4 points 20 hours ago
Okay but we can say with 100% certainty that doesn't work.
Why can't we just do WHAT EVERY OTHER GAME DOES and have a confirmation check right before
the draft, so you don't waste 15 minutes for the last pick in the draft to AFK out of and then you have
to start the queue over again from the back of the line.
Just do what League does, it's not that fucking hard. Have a second confirmation before draft start. If
someone dodges, stay at the front of the queue line.
It's. So. Fucking. Simple.
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WoodenEstablishment  5 points 19 hours ago
Or just actually play the game instead of pressing a button and then going on holiday.
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Burndown9  5 points 16 hours ago
It would be great if people did but they don't. So we need to fix it.
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UndeadAI  0 points 12 hours ago
I'll admit I'd like one because it triggers me when people waste bans because they are afk. Honestly I'd be
happy with just kicking them in the draft lobby if they miss a ban or having a system that prevents people
who afk frequently during bans from getting ban power in drafts.
[–]
I agree with this.
I think the system could be automated relatively simply. Just check:
"Did this person not ban during first ban of the first phase?
If no, mark their account.
Are they already marked?
If yes, kick them from the lobby and have it count as if they had quit out midgame in terms of
ranking points.
Have they been kicked multiple times?
Ban them from HL for some amount of time."
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Jarret6  0 points 6 hours ago
Mobile Legends has it.... A phone game... Just saying
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zorndyuke  2 points 20 hours ago
Well, there is a semicheck. The big button with "Ready" is usually the ready check.
I understand that if the ranked queue is like 25 minutes long, that you want to ALT+Tab or go to the
restroom for a second or get some water etc., but in the other hand, you should do ALL of this stuff BEFORE
pressing the "Ready" button.
I never understood how it's a 90% thing that in every game, there is at least ONE guy that sleeps and
forgets that he actually started a game.
Our society is way too spoiled. Everything that takes more than 5 second is boring and god damn, how dare
we to waste our time with boring stuff, when we could do so much funny stuff?
I remember in League of Legends I once had to wait like 20 times, because there was ALWAYS that ONE
guy/guysha who didn't pressed "ready". 20 consecutive times in a row! Luckly I was high af so I didn't care
at all.
I admit.. it happened me too! I was the ONE dude that sleept over the ready button, but there was ONE QoL
change in LoL that changed everything!
If you get queued, your Game Window will automatically get focused, the Window bar at the bottom of your
window (if you didn't moved it to another side) will shine and a big sound will come to signalise that the
queue started.
It's hard to miss if you are infront of the PC.
Paladins/Realm Royale have the best approach. If the game starts, there will be a sound and a big image at
the corner of your screen telling you that the game started.
In the end.. I like such approaches, but everything beyond that is not a Game problem, but a User problem.
Should we teach the User to change their habits or should we implement more tools to become more and
more lazy and spoiled?
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Nidy  2 points 17 hours ago
lol 25 minutes. More like 1020.
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carrotpie  3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)
I'll tell you what's gonna happen, if thid gets introduced: You wait in que for 3 min. Match is found. 1 guy
doesnt click ready everyone gets dropped. You start queue againt. Wait for 3 min. Rinse repeat. All in all on
average 9 ppl would have to wait ~10min for a match . Thats 90min of effective wait time. So, thank you,
but no more buttons please!
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OBrien  5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)
I mean, you can just pretend that that happens to every game with a common sense ready check all
you want.
But that literally never happens. You don't have any experience matching your allegations. People who
don't fail the check are put at the front and those who do fail have to manually requeue.
Instead, you don't waste 9 people's time waiting for the banner to return, or even worse watch as the
game is disbanded because first pick wasn't ready.
Now, in the latter case, exactly what you said and worse actually happens.
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IPromiseIWont  0 points 19 hours ago
Except, 90% of the times all 10 players are ready to play, but we all need to sit through
+30secs of people clicking the confirmation button before the actual drafting begins. And lets
not forget, there will be people who will miss the chance to click confirmation, so we will have
more missed drafts.
[–] phoenixrawr  4 points 17 hours ago
If everyone is ready and clicks the button then the draft just begins immediately, it’s
maybe 5 extra seconds? And in the cases where someone isn’t ready then it’s nice not to
miss bans or have to wait 2 minutes for FP to miss their pick and break up the lobby.
If you miss the chance to click the confirm button then the confirm button is doing its
job. You should be ready when the lobby starts, not some arbitrary point after that.
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IPromiseIWont  0 points 16 hours ago
You have to think about how it would be implemented and how it would affect the
players.
How long will the confirmation button be active? 10secs? 30secs?
With the confirmation button, will it force the players to remain staring at the
queuing screen in case they miss it. How long will they wait staring at the screen?
510mins for the usual queue time?
You say 5 secs...so all 10 players will be at the screen, fingers poised to press the
confirmation button?
Having this confirmation button will present more opportunities for a missed
draft.
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carrotpie  3 points 19 hours ago
Wait what? Matching my allegations with what? xD IMHO, as the system works now, there is no
requeue, to start after matching fails it would act similart with additional ready prompts. You
get disbanded from matching system. THAT is my experience, as is everyone elses. Hell, you
can prompt ready again after draft. And after game load xD Cause hellofalot people go to toilet
during game loading and stay afk in base, then get kicked, then bot feeds, etc, etc. Its good as
it is now. And as playing LoL with this sytem for 8 years, before hots, i can tell, that I like HotS
ready system way better.
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OBrien  2 points 17 hours ago
Wait what? Matching my allegations with what?
Your allegation that this happens...
You wait in que for 3 min. Match is found. 1 guy doesnt click ready everyone gets
dropped. You start queue againt. Wait for 3 min. Rinse repeat. All in all on average 9
ppl would have to wait ~10min for a match .
I have no idea why I should have to spell that out.
Hell, you can prompt ready again after draft. And after game load xD Cause hellofalot
people go to toilet during game loading and stay afk in base, then get kicked, then
bot feeds, etc, etc. Its good as it is now.
The fact that you're comparing a few minute draft or loading screen to hours of queue
time is absurd. If queue times were consistently as short as a draft or loading screen this
topic wouldn't need discussion.
[–]
carrotpie  1 point 14 hours ago
You dont even read comments do you. Just put your own meaning into my word.
No discussion with you then. 1. Wasnt claiming that it IS happening. So no
'allegations' here, dont spell out, cause there is nothhing to. It was comparable
state which would happen if this was introduces. 2. Not comparing load time. You
are not getting the point again. Wooooosh!
[–]
sirten_hots  2 points 15 hours ago
Nah usually how it works is the 9 hold their place and MM tries to find a 10th to fill it. So the next
ready pop is fairly fast.
[–]
carrotpie  1 point 14 hours ago
Thats exactly how hots works. Dunno what game are you talking about.
[–]
OBrien  4 points 14 hours ago
HotS doesn't have that system at all, what game are you playing?
I'm beginning to suspect that
You dont even read comments do you.
from your other comment was pretty intense projection
[–]
sirten_hots  2 points 14 hours ago
How do you square this comment with the one above? How would it take any longer with
a ready system? Afaik if there’s an afk draft dodge the other 9 places aren’t held, you all
have to requeue at the back of the line. Currently you waste even more time, because
you wait all the way to draft, rinse and repeat. Literally just frontloads afk detection, and
saves everyone a ton of time. Dunno what game you’ve been playing.
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Lonelan  1 points 12 hours ago
Because it's not a competitive game
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MrTyCo  2 points 23 hours ago
I prefer the way it is. Just lower the lost points for draft dc. The draft take so much time so that you have
plenty of time to react
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tigercule  8 points 23 hours ago
The draft take so much time so that you have plenty of time to react
Not if you're banning. I've seen so many people come back and go "oh shit sorry about the two missed
bans; was on the toilet." And most of the time, that tilts the rest of the team. :(
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necbone  2 points 12 hours ago
Dead game.
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