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Zero Limits Seminar 1 CD 1 of 6 PDF
Zero Limits Seminar 1 CD 1 of 6 PDF
Joe: Welcome to the world’s first Zero Limits Seminar! This is NOT Beyond
Ho’oponopono workshop. This is Zero Limits. It’s NEVER been done before.
I have never co-led this with Dr. Hew Len before, so this is ALL NEW. I’ve
got no notes. I’ve got no agenda, no handouts. I had talked to Dr. Hew Len
Audience: [Chuckling]
He said that, “I promise you that I will be there and keep cleaning.”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: He started laughing and he said, “I will just clean. I will just clean.”
not heard before, who has written a book that I absolutely love, which is
ABOUT Ho’oponopono and growing from the inside out. Most of you already
know the story, but for those who don’t, I need to quickly tell you about it.
recognize this? Joyce. Alright, it’s either yours or you WANT it!
Audience: [Chuckling]
How many were in the one before THAT? Yeah!! MOST of the people here
people want to know about Zero Limits. So many want to know about my
forth coming book CALLED Zero Limits. So many people want to know
about the world’s most unusual therapist who is here today and this weekend.
So, first of all, the quick story is three years ago, Mark Ryan who is in the
room some place, he is over there, “Hello, Mark, good morning.” ...told me
about a therapist who healed an entire ward of mentally ill criminals without
seeing any of them! Now, I think I am a pretty open minded guy, but when I
heard that story I thought, “I LIKE you, Mark, but I think you swallowed a big
one here. I think this is an urban legend! This doesn’t sound like the truth at
all!” So, I didn’t talk about it. I didn’t investigate it. I let it go! I heard it
He said, “Did you investigate that therapist who healed an entire ward of
worked at this hospital in Hawaii for the criminally insane and he NEVER
saw clients, but he did something within himself that CHANGED those
Well, I was CURIOUS at this point. I started looking for that therapist. I
couldn’t easily FIND him! I KNOW how to do research online. I know how to
Google and I know all of those secret back doors to find information, but I
couldn’t find this therapist! So, I found that a little curious and a little
frustrating, but I also was very persistent. Finally, I found HIM LISTED on an
about him and it said that you can hire him by email for consultations. I
thought, now, that’s a little weird ‘by email’ but I am going to hire him,
Audience: [Laughing]
I got him on the phone and he spent an HOUR talking to me. Now, keep in
mind, he didn’t know who I was at ALL and for him to give that hour was
He said, “Well, I saw them in passing, but I never saw them professionally,
not therapeutically.”
I said, “Well, what were you DOING that somehow caused them to
CHANGE?”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: “What do you mean you just kept cleaning? Are you cleaning the bathrooms,
He said, “I just kept working on ME. I just kept saying, ‘I love you. I am
know MORE. He answered all of his questions and it just left me in a state of
He had a workshop coming up. It was only a few weeks away and I asked him
He says, “I hope not too many.” He says, “I keep cleaning so only the right
I said, “Mark, would you like to go to this workshop with me?” I said, “Since
you were the guy who TOLD me about this fellow, I will PAY for you to
attend it!”
Well, he EAGERLY agreed. He was JUST as curious about this man as I was.
Audience: [Chuckling]
So, I called him that for awhile until I started calling him “Dr. Len.”
Everybody here probably refers to him as “Dr. Len.” His real NAME is Dr.
Hew Len. So, if we want to do it right, we should be saying Dr. Hew Len or
Anyway, Mark and I did the workshop. We found it pretty fascinating. I did a
writing a book.
I thought, “Is that like the Japanese, when you ask them, ‘Do you want to do
something together in business?’ They will say, ‘We’ll see,’ which means,
I thought, “Well, he’s just telling me, ‘No.’” I kept checking in.
with you.” Well, more importantly, he wanted ME to write the book and that
year ago. I thought five people might go to that dinner and learn about Dr.
Hew Len and about Ho’oponopono and this process he uses to heal the
was by word of mouth, much like the effect that’s going on HERE! I never
promoted this, but look at all the people! There are more people that want to
come and I couldn’t let them in the door! We’ve got standing room only.
So, I started to have more adventures with Dr. Hew Len. I brought him to
really felt like I was Grasshopper with the Satori Master as I walked up and
because he is just being HIMSELF, but out of being himself I would go,
“OH!!” I would have whacks across the head that would just WAKE ME UP!
spent night and DAY on this book. I wanted this book to be earth shaking! I
wanted this book to be the BEST thing that I have ever written. Cindy
Cashman has already TOLD me, she’s read ALL of my stuff, “This IS THE
BEST thing that you’ve ever written by far,” she says right here, EVER!
There are a handful of people who have read it. Dr. Mark Gitterle, who was
also at that dinner in February, read the book and he said that, “This book is
Audience: Wow!
Joe: He said, “Historian’s will LOOK BACK at this book as a Watershed Moment
in History.”
I’ve got...I am getting electrocuted here just standing here telling you what he
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: I tell Dr. Hew Len all of this and he says, “Oh, just keep cleaning.”
Audience: [Laughing]
“You know, Joe, when your book comes out [now it’s my book…it’s not our
book] when YOUR book comes out...the SHIT is going to HIT the FAN!”
Audience: [Laughing]
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: ...because I am already PLANNING to SHAKE THE EARTH with the book
know about this book, which is so incredibly ironic because the only person
who really NEEDS to know about this book is ME!! As you’ll find out, if you
But, here I am…. wanting to shake the world with this entire book and I am
not going to do it just by myself. I could make the book an Amazon Best
that show about the movie The Secret, which most of you know I am in, but it
will probably be because of Dr. Hew Len and Zero Limits. So, this book IS
going to go out there in a big way and he says, “The shit’s going to hit the fan
So, I am just sitting in his room and I am just thinking, “So what? I am
READY for THIS!” I go back to my room and I get an email from one of my
early readers of the book, who experienced some shit hitting the fan and took
it out on ME!! I got ONE email. ONE email and I was DEVASTATED for the
next HOUR!! I had to go lay down and go, “I love you. I am sorry. Please
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: ...OVER AND OVER and over again!!! This is kind of a HINT at how this
ALL want to go is at this place called Zero Limits, which the code word might
be “White Board,” because it’s the white board before we write anything on it.
As soon as you asked the question or I asked the question, “what IS Zero
Zero Limits. So, in the past, I might have taken that email that came to me,
SMILE and I just got a HAND GRANADE thrown to me!” I see HIM right
after it.
He says, “That was Level One, Joe. They’ll still go to Level Six.”
I’m like, “I’m not going to hang around this man any more! He doesn’t have
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: Again, I am saying it jokingly, because ALL OF THIS that comes up is for us
to cleanse!!
In the past when I got an email like that, what I WOULD have done is written
back to the person and trying to have logically explained things or I might
have gone to therapy and had all of this stuff worked out within myself so I
get back to the white board, to get back to Zero State, I have to CLEAN
THAT and as I clean that, I not only clean it in ME, I clean it in THAT person
and I clean it in the people that it’s SHARED WITH! This is the NEW
So, by my spending that hour laying on the bed saying, “I love you. I am
sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” I got up feeling MUCH better. I was
much more relieved. I was still shaken, obviously, openly I was, admittedly,
but I felt LOTS BETTER and I had another email come from that same person
much more relaxed, much more loving and open. So, there were some things
[Laughing]
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: Okay, the email last night, that’s all part of this weekend! You know, but I
didn’t set that up, not consciously anyway, maybe in some unconscious way,
some Divinely planned way it’s been set up. I am here for the ride! I am here
have authored a book with that therapist. We are now...we have people talking
about turning that book into a MOVIE, which excited me. I did a radio show
called Spiritual Hollywood. They listened. They heard the story about the
This is like, One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest, but a happier ending, you
know...
the movie. It’s going to be the book. It’s going to be Oprah. It’s going to be all
of these other things that are happening out there in the world, but again, it all
comes down to ME.” [Pause] I hope that when you hear this, that it is relevant
to YOU!
cleansing, all the memories, anything in the way, all of the problems, anything
of that. This pin up here, you’ll see that Dr. Hew Len is wearing a pin on his
hat. I put a second pin on MY hat! You know, do double duty here with the
forgive me. Thank you,” which will be the phrases we will be exploring here
So, do you have any QUESTIONS about where we are going this weekend or
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: “We are ready, let’s go,” get Joe off the stage? Is that it?
Joe: You are along for the ride? That’s good. Well, how many here would like to
Dr. Hew Len: ...please? You and Bruce, thank you very much.
about the room. First of all, the room is VERY sacred. The room is VERY,
VERY SACRED. So, you need to be aware of that. How you treat yourself is
how you treat this room. If you are willing to accept the fact that this room is
very sacred and whoever built it, built it with great sacredness, then the room
ought to be acknowledged as so. But each chair that you are sitting in is
VERY sacred. It isn’t just a chair, you didn’t just HAPPEN to sit in that chair,
but each of the chairs that you are sitting in is very, very sacred.
So that means that how you treat the room and how you treat the chair is how
you treat yourself. I WANT YOU to pay attention to that! So, this room is
very, very sacred. The chair that you sit on is very, very sacred. The air that
you breathe in in this room is very sacred. So, this room is a Temple and I
would like...at least, I am going to treat it as a very sacred place. So the owner
who put out his soul to build these things, we want to honor that person,
because that person, whatever he was inspired, built this room and you are
here, instead of sitting out there in the rain some place. So, I want to make that
So, I would appreciate it if you would NOT have any cell phone conversations
in the room, because you will disturb the rhythm of the room. So, this room
has an identity of its own and it can ONLY do what it was created to do
disturb the room and if you disturb the room, then we can’t get across the
information. I just want to make the point, the chair you are sitting on, the
table that you are...right here, the carpet that you are standing on, the
foundation...that all of this is very sacred. Without this room, this could not
take place.
So, I get to watch you, how you treat the room and I get to do my cleaning.
Years ago I worked, again, at Hawaii State Hospital and one of the things that
you noticed about the ward...that the peeling of the paint… the toilets would
flush when nobody was on them, the lights would go off and on, you could
hear crying in the room and so, no plants would grow. So this room...I had Joe
bring in a plant. See? So, this plant represents the mineral, vegetable and
animal kingdom. It’s going to WATCH all of us to see how sacred we are. It
will know whether we are in fact sacred to ourselves, which is where we want
So, I want to see if you have any questions about the sacredness of this room,
the sacredness of the chair and the floor. Did you know, for example, that the
person who sat on THIS chair had a financial problem? [Pause] Hello? The
person who sat in THIS chair had a financial problem. So, when I LOOK to
take 100% responsibility for whatever it is that THIS ROOM comprises of, I
huge glacier! So, there are MEMORIES of that!! This room was part of the
flooding. There are memories of that! So, but this chair right here, somebody
sat on this chair that had financial problems, like you, which means you get up
and you leave and you leave your crap. This is what we all do. We go from
So, I just want you to know that THIS ROOM has been set up in such a way
that when you are in this room, the cleaning is taking place. Once you leave
the room to go outside of the building, you are on your own...yeah, and
ONLY because this room really wants to feel loved and cared for...which is
discussions in the room. It will disturb the room. Even the computers that you
folks are using will disturb the room. The electric...the cameras in the room,
will disturb the room. So, if you want to get the MOST out of it, you HAVE to
be ZERO. You have to be SACRED! If you are not, you are not going to get
anything out of this! All you are going to do is you are going to get reactions.
You are going to have questions. You are going to bitch and moan. You are
going to get annoyed and irritable. I’ve been through this. This is why it’s
very DANGEROUS to give a course like this, because ALL of the stuff will
room will, in fact, CLEAR IT, but it won’t clear it if you are not sacred with
it. So, I want to see if you have any questions about the sacredness of this
Okay, I am going to ask Suzanne if she will come and just stand right here for
a moment, Suzanne, please. I would like for you to take your erasers out,
okay, please.
Suzanne, when somebody erases on that side, I want you to erase it on this
side, okay?
Dr. Hew Len: I am going to ask somebody to come up and erase that.
Dr. Hew Len: As soon as you erase it, you erase it. Okay?
Suzanne: Okay.
want you just to WATCH something. So, I am going to ASK him to come up,
the person who OWNS the building [chuckling]. I am going to ask him if he
would stand right HERE and then all I am going to do is to ask him to take his
eraser and erase that ‘M’. Could you do that, please? [Pause]
Dr. Hew Len: THERE you go! So, it’s IMPORTANT for you to know that there are certain
things that ONLY you can do and if you don’t do it, nobody else can be able
to do it. Can I make that point? In other words, you have come into this
lifetime to do those things that nobody else can do and if you CAN’T erase
the stuff and take yourself back to zero, you are STUCK and you’ll never be
Audience: Yourselves.
sounds]
Nerissa: Memories?
Dr. Hew Len: Memories! That’s the only opponent! When you don’t have these memories,
you are back to zero; that’s who you are: pure, free, perfect, whole, complete.
When you are a memory, it’s all bullshit...absolute bullshit. That’s NOT
YOU!
So now, let’s say that my friend David was able to erase that? That gets
erased, IMMEDIATELY everything else gets erased from the room, the
By erasing it, he erases it for ALL and you won’t even know it! Why won’t
Dr. Hew Len: Not only that, but because MOST of what you are aware of, you are not even
CLOSE to what’s going on. For EVERY memory that you are conscious of,
friend David, he’s got millions happening below his awareness and that’s
what’s driving him, not THAT! It’s the millions and millions. So, let’s say for
every second there are fifteen memories that come up that David may be
conscious of, there are 15 Million more that he is not and that’s jerking him
It’s like Psalms 19:12 or something like that where the Psalm is lamentive,
there are these secret errors. I don’t know what they are, but YOU, YOU, but
YOU and you can have it erased. But you have to know, it’s ONLY you. If
HE might not even be aware of, if he doesn’t get at it and erase it, we are ALL
stuck with it. We are all stuck with it! There are certain things that ONLY you
can clean. If you are waiting for David to clean, he won’t even be conscious
So, does anybody know how a symphony orchestra gets tuned up? Who
Dr. Hew Len: The CONCERT MASTER! So, David is like a concert master. But if he is
willing to erase, everybody...he goes into tune, this gets erased and everybody
else goes into tune. He can tune everybody up and they may not be even
So, you need to know that everything that you experience and MOST of it you
are not aware of, it’s in YOU!! You can’t get outside of you. It’s not possible!
So, when you see out of memory, you see with...where’s my friend Ryan.
Ryan: Yeah.
Dr. Hew Len: I want to make a point. So, I want to stop to see whether you have any
questions. So, this is not DAVID, THIS is David. Zero is David. This is
David’s opponent...not his son, not the building, not the weather, not anything
Everything that is perfect and right for David will show up, but he’s got to get
rid of that opponent! If you don’t get rid of that opponent, you haven’t got a
chance! Not only that [chuckling] you make it HARD on everybody else and
So, I am going to pause to see if you have ANY QUESTIONS about who you
ARE [tapping sounds], who you are NOT [tapping sounds] and if you don’t
get THAT [tapping sounds], we are all stuck with it. Our friend poor Suzanne
So, I want to pause to see if you have any questions...any comments. Now,
she’s going to have a question. Okay, everybody see it? Raise your hands. She
Dr. Hew Len: Pay attention! That means something is up! [Tapping sounds] YOU should be
saying, “I love you. Thank you,” instead of being there going, “Uh-oh, I have
a question, too!” Bullshit stuff...I tell you! But if she has a question, that’s
GREAT, because now if David was quick enough, he’d start doing his
cleaning because he would be back from zero and he would take her back to
whom?
Female: Herself.
Female: Zero.
Dr. Hew Len: Zero. What does Zero open the door to? GOD...Creation...The Infinite!
But you can’t DO it if your opponent is there! So, we want you to ask
questions, but the rest of us ought to be doing cleaning, you know. Otherwise,
you are going to piggyback on her question and then the whole room is going
Audience: [Laughing]
Audience: [Chuckling]
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. [Chuckling] So, the ONLY point that I am going to make, hopefully, to
get the idea across is that...this isn’t either me or David, but this is what I see
out of it. I am seeing out of my shades, which means I see...crap! Sorry. But if
memory...I am back to zero. I can see what God sees, with ABSOLUTE
CLARITY!!
That’s all I am going to talk about this weekend...how YOU, your only
opponent, not your mama, not your papa, not anybody, not government, not
Bush, not anybody, not Iraq. It’s YOU! If you are WILLING TO LET GO and
BE HERE, you set everybody FREE and everybody will MOVE until another
memory hits, BONK and then everybody’s stuck. But MOST of the time, we
We spend 99% of our time looking at this and we say, “That’s for real!” This
is our OPPONENT! You have no opponent, but THIS [tapping sounds] and
Female: You know, allowing that space between when I wanted to ask the question
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, so you are going to put people like us therapists out of business. We
have....
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: We are going to have to go do something else...REALLY! REALLY!!! If you
Dr. Hew Len: We are going to have to figure out a way to erase that stuff, yeah?
Consumers Report put out a book called How You Can Clean Practically
Anything, see?
Dr. Hew Len: I don’t know, they had 80 or 90 ways pending and so we are going to find out
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: So, I don’t want to discourage questions, but any time you ask a question that
means that we are ALL unclear...ALL OF US...and you waiting for an answer
to come, like a discussion, you ain’t going to....discussions don’t erase. They
won’t do it! The only thing that will erase is, “I love you!” Why will “I love
you” erase? Some of you are doing it, why does it WORK?
Dr. Hew Len: You see, YOU NEED to KNOW that! You need to APPRECIATE HOW you
MOVE the WHOLE COSMOS by simply saying, “I love you!” How you
you,” but YOU need to be aware what’s involved so you can be AWED by
this stuff as opposed to, “I love you. I love you.” You go, “Oh! Is there a
faster way? I love you. I know there’s got to be a faster way. I love you, I love
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: But when you say, “I love you,” you can not believe...I mean, you engaged the
whole cosmos, anything that is out The Divinity will put in...will put it back
into rhythm, the whole kit and caboodle. So, if The Divinity says, “I’m going
different galaxies, different dimensions, things you are not even aware of, will
pull it off.”
love you.” But you need to know how it works, so that you can appreciate it.
So, I want to come back. Yes, ma’am. We get to clean now: “I love you.
Audience: [Chuckling]
Dr. Hew Len: Yes! So that’s ONE of the things that it’ll do. As soon as you say, “I love
would that be so, David? If that, when you say “I love you,” INSTANTLY
that connection is made with The Divinity. Why would that be so?
Audience: No.
Dr. Hew Len: “That’s where we came from.” LOVE! Not ANY kind of love, not the kind of
Audience: [Chuckling]
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. But, the love that will take you HOME again to a pure state!
That love is when you say, “I love you,” it has three elements in it; three
important elements that you ought to be aware of and appreciate. The first
element is. “I am sorry.” When you say, “I love you,” so sometimes when I
creates this back pain. So, I am saying to The Divinity, “I love you!” So, now,
whatever is right for me and for that.” That’s the FIRST thing. The first
element is repentance, “I am sorry.” When you say, “I love you,” you are
“I love you,” you are talking about repentance AND forgiveness. Every time
you say, “I love you,” every time you say, “I thank you,” you are talking
about...you are saying to The Divinity, “I am sorry, Please forgive me,” and
these memories and take you back to Zero. YOU can not do it!!! The
conscious mind, The Intellect, has NO ABILITY to come and erase that stuff
So, every time that you use this process and several processes are going to be
given, it’s the process of, “I am sorry. Please forgive me,” and then allowing
The Divinity to erase; so, ONLY Divinity can erase. So, I am going to pause
to see if you have any unclarity that I have created on my part. [Pause]
Female: We are going through the process of saying this over and over and over again
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, OF COURSE!!! So, how would she stay there constantly?
Female: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: It’s tedious and particularly it’s tedious because you are looking...you are
looking for what? Results! You are saying to The Divinity, “I am looking for
results, yeah,...”
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: ...as opposed to TRUSTING. So in this country, I am talking about the U.S.,
some of you are from other countries, but in THIS country what is our motto,
Audience: [Laughing]
Audience: [Chuckling]
Dr. Hew Len: What a bunch of bologna, you guys! “In God we trust.” [Raspberry] Yeah! So,
in this great country, the motto is, “In God we trust.” So, when we do our
cleaning, please know when you knock [knocking three times hard] the door
IF YOU ASK, the DOOR WILL OPEN!! It will OPEN...as opposed to you
going, “Did it open?” Oh, my God! You are only aware of one millionth stuff
going on at once and you are trying to make a judgment? What a bunch of
bologna!
Here’s who you are! Zero, created in EXACT LIKENESS of The Divine:
wish I had more money.” When you are at Zero, it’s all gone. You don’t have
moving in your mind of this data, this information just moves like that.
FAMILY...because that’s who we are! You see, Zero means that we are all
is NONE of that that you have to deal with. When you are at Zero, you are
home free; free...like King said, “I am free at last.” But, we are talking about
spiritually, we are free at last! [Pause] The only thing between you and
So, I am going to pause and see if you have any unclarity on my part. Yes?
Female: You...I guess...my question to you is...the cleaning that you have done and
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah and I’ll go on until I take my last breath.
Female: When we think about being at Zero, I don’t see it ever HAPPENING then.
Dr. Hew Len: Oh, it DOES happen. Watch this. You see? All of a sudden without your
awareness and this is why you have to TRUST that The Divinity will do for
you, if you are WILLING TO DO YOUR PART. So, all of a sudden OUT OF
THE STORM comes this LITTLE LIGHT and goes [Whoa (musically sung)]
and you go [Oh!] and you’ve got inspired. One little parting of the
clouds...one little parting of the data; but we are thinking, “Come on, hurry
up! Hurry up! I don’t see anything!” But it’s happening all of the time!
In other words, the Light is hitting you all of the time, but you are not even
MILLION below and you are making pronouncements on that? So, you
should give up! You should say, “God, I don’t know” as opposed to most of
us walking around saying, “I know.” Well, you don’t know…. you don’t
know. I mean, you’ve got zillions. You’ve got mountainous...this is what the
message of Jesus and Buddha and all of these; listen, it’s stacked against you!
But you can move MOUNTAINS, if you are willing to be 100% responsible.
But I want you to be clear...this is the ONLY thing between you and you.
That’s it...not your mama, not your papa, NOT ANYBODY! It’s in YOU!! I
Now, I don’t have to wait up on anybody...as opposed to, “What about you?”
Then, you have psychologists making lots of money because it’s…. we are
into blame. We make TONS of money. Lawyers make TONS of money and
for years, I don’t know any psychologist that is clear...or any lawyer. Do you
because nobody else is going to do it for YOU! Because they DON’T KNOW
what’s going on, so when I work, when people email me or in class like this
and somebody will come and talk to me, I know that something is up and I
start cleaning. This is why I’ll stick in this room most of the day. I want to be
But I want you to be clear. She’s asking a question [tapping], that’s where
OPPORTUNITY to what? To let the mountain GO! So, any time anybody’s
responsible.”
Female: When you are cleaning and I am cleaning, are we cleaning each other? Are we
Dr. Hew Len: You have to ask the more important question: “Am I 100% responsible for
what is going on in me?” As long as you are clean, there can be a storm
around you, but you might be experiencing that little sunshine and everybody
Dr. Hew Len: And on that note, I would like to take a break, please. Can we just take a
SHORT break? Let’s take a short break, otherwise what happens is a part of
you will walk out the door and you might be there, but you are not home.
[Break]
Joe: I was given this book, The Yale Book of Quotations. I thought I’d read all of
them to you.
Audience: [Laughing]
page and he said, “Mark that page and read THAT one.”
It said, “We do not see things as they are, but as we are ourselves.” Henry
Thomlinson, an English novelist said that. But, it doesn’t really matter who
I’ll open it up again. It’s book of The Yale Book of Quotations. I have no idea
why I have opened it up to this, but I am just going to read it, I don’t know
what it’s going to say, “That old lady, who on borrowing a dictionary from her
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: So, rather than keep entertaining you with this, I will bring Dr. Hew Len back
up.
Dr. Hew Len: Why don’t you...don’t you have any stories you want to tell them about...an
experience that you’ve had...yeah, I am sure that you have a few stories about
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: He said, “Don’t I have a few stories about how this process has worked for
me?” Some of you have HEARD these stories because you’ve heard me talk
about them in Beyond Manifestatio… the first one AND in the second one.
All: [Chuckling]
Cindy: Well, you shared a couple of GREAT stories how you were so careful about
your eating and then you showed how Dr. Hew Len would go out walking and
Joe: Yes.
Cindy: Then you’d ask him, “Are you going to eat a chili dog?”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: Nerissa saw that chapter title and said, “That one...I want to read that one
first.”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: She liked that one...and, part of it WAS about smoking cigars. Cigar smoking
has become an ALMOST daily ritual for me. It’s a time where I
it’s been outside, of course, the weather has changed, so it’s not been doing
that and while I am doing it, I am just saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please
Now, when I FIRST started saying those phrases, they were just phrases. They
are just WORDS. One of the things that Dr. Hew Len had taught me when he
first taught EVERYBODY in the seminar that Mark and I were at was the line
that, “You don’t have to FEEL love. You don’t have to FEEL sorry. You just
have to say the phrases.” I think it was a little SNEAKY on HIS PART,
because what I found out was that AS you say them, you begin to FEEL them!
my mantra, just saying it because I trust him, because I have been trusting this
process because it’s worked on LITTLE things before. Then I’d sit there and
because in some places when I was sitting outside I would see all of the
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: As I would say, “I am sorry.” I would start to feel, “Oh, my God, I really AM
sorry and please FORGIVE me and then, thank you.” What was going on,
going up and down my spine and I am connected right now to The Divine, as I
am saying this. What I was feeling is that...first of all, I DO LOVE YOU! Oh,
professionally, but just the FACT that I am ALIVE BREATHING at this time
in history. This is the time of magic and miracles. So, I am kind of saying, “I
love you,” to The Divine. Its like, “I feel the love. I FEEL the LOVE!! It is
I am not asking for forgiveness from It from The Divine, from the Zero State.
LOVE! It’s like, ‘Oh, God! I didn’t KNOW that you were showering this
cigar [chuckle] to go through this whole thing again, virtually every day, and
report. I swear that cigar moment becomes a Satori experience for me!
me. Thank you,” ALL DAY LONG!!! Many of you have heard me say that
the cleaning that has to be done is NOT ‘OUT THERE’...it’s not with any
ONE person. If anybody is saying anything to me, like the email that came up,
shared program, they’ve got the M. I’ve got the M. What I’ve got to do on my
board over here is say, “I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love
you.” Now, as that dissolves, it seems to dissolve over THERE and not just
OVER there, but if you happen to be sharing the program, the same thing
happens.
PEACEFUL, GRATEFUL LIFE! I still get stressed, but for the MOST part I
am riding a wave of very BUSY prosperity doing things like flying to Miami,
talking to people who want to have my own reality TV show and hearing from
the Oprah people who want me to go on Oprah to talk about the movie The
Secret. That’s interesting, too. Let’s talk about that for a real quick moment.
I get this call saying I am one of like six people that are being considered to be
on The Oprah Show. There are twenty-four teachers in the movie The Secret. I
am ONE of them, and they’ve honed it down to six or seven that they wanted
to be on the show. So, they were going to do a pre-interview with ME. They
wanted to do the airing I think it was yesterday. They wanted to record the
show. It would have been yesterday, I would have been in Chicago. I went
through the pre-interview and everything and part of my mind was thinking,
“I am WAY PAST The Secret.” I LIKE the movie The Secret. I encourage
EVERYBODY to see the movie The Secret, but when I did the Beyond
Manifestation Weekend, I was telling everybody, “You can watch that movie,
but I think that we are going PAST that!” When we come here to Zero Limits,
I am thinking that we are going WAY PAST THAT, even DEEPER than that.
want to go SO CLOSE to this actual event taking place. All I could imagine
wouldn’t be here for the event.” So, when I got the call saying that they are
passing on you on The Oprah Show this time around, I was RELIEVED!
Then, I also thought, and then again, I am CLEANING the whole time that
phrases, ALL of the time that this is going on, DOING MY BEST TO TRUST
while this is going on and I am still cleaning and everything, I realized that “I
NOW KNOW the people who decide who goes on Oprah! I don’t WANT TO
GO on, because of the movie The Secret. I want to go on, with HIM! (Joe is
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: So, to give you any sort of story here, what I am doing on a moment-by-
them one day and I was telling them that I really think that the secret to living
RIGHT HERE IN THIS MOMENT, and I mean almost nobody IS, but if we
could be right here in this moment with TOTAL GRATITUDE, we are OPEN
for the inspiration he referred to EARLIER to SHINE IN. When that shines in,
moment.
do this weekend, what I was going to do the following week, have my game
plan, have my strategy. Now, I have found out that is one of the GREATEST
King. I never PLANNED to have Oprah call. I never planned for a lot of my
books to work out. I never planned to hear about this therapist, to end up
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: He said Robert DeNiro should play his part in the movie.
Joe: He’s saying get a good Italian man is what he thought he needed in there.
in the moment, I keep CLEANING, the opportunities keep coming and what I
do is just say, “Yes” to them, even when they are stretching my comfort zone,
something else to CLEAN! It’s just saying that there is something else for me
to clean! So, for me, in some ways, I feel like I am reducing everything to
such a kindergarten one message level. JUST CLEAN ALL THE TIME!!!
You don’t have to do ALL of the other techniques. You don’t have to do all of
the other methods. You MIGHT!! You might WANT TO! It might come out
finding out is that the ADVANCED METHOD seems to be the method that
Joe: Okay.
Female: I heard you say to do that it will put us in the MOMENT, however, what
happens to ME, I find myself saying it over and over and over again and then
Joe: That’s what you want to CLEANSE on, so that you end up being back in the
moment.
You see, one of the things that was going on, yesterday, when I told you I got
the hand grenade by email that leveled me. I laid down for awhile and I am
doing, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” over and over
and over and I am SURE it was about an hour. I wasn’t keeping track of time,
I was just DOING it! At some point, the thought came across my brain, it just
kind of wandered in, “Isn’t there a faster way to do this? One an hour.”
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: So, I thought isn’t there a SHORT CUT? You know, I got four phrases now,
wander over later and I am visiting with Dr. Hew Len and I TOLD him all of
this. I said, “NOW I am looking for the short cut. You gave me the four
laughed out loud because this is like a memory showing up. This is a question
Huh? Tombstone? Why did I like to be around this guy? I mean.... [Chuckle]
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: Level ten shock waves coming my way, all the shit is going to hit the fan, now
tombstone. What he meant by it was it’s an image! When you turn over any
rock that’s been there for a long time, whether it’s a tombstone or a rock that
you find out in the woods or something, what do you see on the other side?
Male: Worms.
So he said, “Just in your mind, flip over a tombstone. It will air it, like when
you aerate the ground, the grass and so forth.” That’s another way that you
So, again though, it all comes back to NON-STOP CLEANING. EVEN when
I have the thoughts, “How can I speed up the cleaning?” Where is that coming
thinking, “Where’s the next step? Where’s the next one?” Well, even my
It seems like it’s over there. Who’s got the question? Yeah, okay.
Woman: You talked about Dr. Hew Len. You talked about the shit hitting the fan when
Joe: Yep.
Woman: You are basically...I’ve lived out in the woods...all analyzing, all judging, all
Joe: Yes!
Joe: Yes.
Joe: Yes.
Joe: Exactly!!
Joe: Yeah!! I think that’s what’s going to push buttons in a lot of therapists, but I
going to look at it and go, “You are not going to NEED ME.” They are going
to feel THREATENED.
Joe: They are going to say.... In fact, he’s TOLD me. I said, “When people come to
One of the FIRST things he asked them is, “Tell me your story.” He doesn’t
want to know the STORY because that’s the PROBLEM. The story is what
they are going to say from the “M” level, that’s the tip of the iceberg. It’s just
story just gives them something to talk about, anchors them in that moment,
That’s why I even got this email yesterday was by a person who was
threatened...threatened. I put them out of business and they don’t like that!
Yeah.
Joe: Yes?
Female: That’s true, and yet it’s not true if I understood what we are talking about
Joe: Well, I am with YOU on THAT. But see, again...see, this is interesting
because we can talk about those other therapists and we can talk about the shit
hitting the fan, we can talk about reviewers and critics and all of that kind of
Female: Us.
Joe: ME!!
Joe: Me! So, when all of this, if any of this shows up...you see, what I am trying to
cleaning NOW, so when the book comes out in JUNE, hopefully I’ve cleaned
Audience: [Laughing]
Audience: [Laughing]
for me!
Joe: Ah!
Female: The clients are always going to be there. They are not going to go away and it
Joe: Yeah! This is a good point! You know what? I was talking to Dr. Hew Len
I said, “Well, I’ve got these people that are working with other people, what is
the BEST way for them to talk to them? How do they interact with them?”
Audience: Love.
you are in front of those people and you are saying, “I love you. I am sorry.
Please forgive me. Thank you.” You are doing your CLEANSING for
whatever shows up when they are talking to you, they will LIKE BEING
for more of the good FEELING! This is my...That’s my own HUNCH! Yes?
Joe: Yes.
Lady: I have to tell you, my experience of LOVE and being with those people with
EVERY phone call it’s just the MOST AMAZING GIFT to ME. I’m doing
Joe: Cleansing?
to that and THEY TOTALLY have the experience of being loved being on
that call.
Joe: Wow!
Lady: Totally...because, they ALWAYS acknowledge it when we get off the phone,
they tell me, “It’s such a difference to talk to you.” It’s SHOCKING to me,
it’s such a surprise, but that’s what THEY experience when they are on the
call.
Lady: No!
Joe: Yeah.
Lady: But I don’t tell them that I AM doing that...we talk about the technique, what
Lady: Yeah!
for me. I am doing NON-STOP CLEANSING ALL of the time, ALL of the
time.
Joe: Yeah.
Joe: Oh!
minute like, “Well, why aren’t they taking responsibility?” I don’t have the
Joe: Right.
Joe: Yes.
Lady: So, all is present. It’s who THEY ARE and what’s possible for THEM! I’m
Male: I am curious. Last time we were here Francine would not start up. What
have a cleansing tool according to Dr. Hew Len. It’s coming up, so I’ll pass it
now. The last time that Dr. Hew Len was here...I’ll give you a chance to speak
sooner or later, but you gave me the mike so now I’m on a roll.
Audience: [Laughing]
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: I have a luxury exotic sports car. It’s a hand made, very rare, pretty expensive
car. It’s a Panoz. Some people pronounce it Pay-nose, but a Panoz / Pay-nose
the one I have...thank you, I’d like everybody to have one...is Francine. So,
some of you know about Francine. I made a...Nerissa made the business card
based on a photo that your husband took a picture of one time. After I showed
Dr. Hew Len this business card, he said this is a cleansing tool. I started
sweeping it all over me and I would hand it out to people knowing that I am
cleansing everybody.
Audience: [Chuckling]
boy, it’s got me passing out business cards. Look what’s happening right now!
The last time I did a seminar, I had told everybody I was going to bring
Francine to the event. I went to go do it, Mark was with me over at the house,
because he was admiring the car and he wanted to hear it start up. It wouldn’t
start up. This was a brand new car! It wouldn’t start up!! We tried everything
All I could imagine was that Francine didn’t want to be left alone out here in
the parking lot. She is used to being pampered. She is used to having all kinds
of...you know, bathed every night [chuckling], her hair stroked [chuckling]...
Audience: [Chuckling]
start. So, I didn’t bring her and it was a disappointment to most people. A lot
of people wondered, “Did she start on Monday morning after the event? So,
was it kind of like a psychic type of thing?” No, she did not start on Monday
morning. She had to be towed. She had to have some repair done and now she
starts. She runs and all of that kind of stuff. I am NOT bringing her over here
Joe: But the card is a cleansing tool. What is interesting is that the Panoz crest, you
can see it on the front of the car just BARELY, but that Panoz crest according
to Dr. Hew Len is ALSO a cleansing tool. So, you are getting a double
I don’t know how we got on that but...you asked me about the car?
Joe: It’s ME!! It’s me! It’s me in ALL OF THIS! I pulled in the email. It’s me in
Joe: Okay.
spend some TIME together and he was busy. He didn’t know he HAD that
time.
Joe: Yeah.
Mark: So, I was looking FORWARD to spending that time WITH him and I just
Then, when the thing with Francine, we got to spend two AMAZING DAYS
TOGETHER!
Joe: We got to spend two days together because HE spent that time WITH me! The
out in San Antonio thinking that the car would be done that day. It wasn’t
until the NEXT day. He hung out with me that EVENING. He took me to San
Antonio the next DAY! So, from HIS perspective, this was like a
WONDERFUL GIFT!!
case, his perspective, it was HIM, pulling this all together. But I am glad that
Jillian: Oh, I was just thinking about the therapy question that everyone was talking
about.
Joe: Yeah.
Jillian: I trained thirty years ago at a Psychiatric Institute, so my original training was
Foreagan and all of the other schools of therapy that were prevalent at that
time. But what I have seen in my therapist that I know is that everyone is
REALIZING that what is missing is the spiritual aspect. So, people and
therapists have become more interested in meditation and hypnosis and magic.
The kind of “magic” that we are talking about where we are NOTICING that
our thoughts are powerful and our words are powerful and that we are
constantly creating. So, I think that the whole therapeutic community, with the
exception of some Forebeats who have their heels dug in, I think the whole
Joe: Good to hear. I think Craig had his hand up and then I’ll come back to you.
Craig: ...and working with a couple in our neighborhood that has got quite a lot out
Craig: Yeah.
Craig: Exactly.
Joe: Yes?
Male: I was going to say while the four statements or mantra is therapeutic for
engaged. But as you slept, it’s a very important and very helpful tool in
general for people, in just DOING the people, if you direct it to someone. I am
and I like to say, “I am sorry. Please forgive me,” and direct it to them, then
Male: ...diffuses and is very effective. You can tell it’s for healing.
Joe: Yeah, I understand. I understand. You know what? This is ALL very
interesting, but I can’t help but feel that we are kind of on a level ABOVE the
Zero State, because even when we talk about techniques, we talk about
Francine or stories or thoughts, all of this kind of stuff. I think this is all “M”
comes in, I don’t even question it. If I question it, what am I doing? There is a
This is why I keep doing the cleansing! From what I understand how this
People look back and go, “Wow! That was amazing what you did!”
I just did it! I was like a puppet for The Divine. That’s a new phrase I have
been using. I have been “a puppet for The Divine.” Suzanne finished the
thought it would be a few pages long. It was forty-five pages long of books,
Now, when I LOOKED at it, I was like, “Holy Smokes! I’ve done quite a bit!
WHOLE LOT OF IT just kind of came through when I was doing my thing.
I keep finding out...I’ve met quite a few celebrities like I talked about James
Cann. He’s one that is coming to mind right now. When I talk to somebody
like that, he’s a SUPERSTAR! He’s a major celebrity! You try to investigate
know what? He doesn’t have a clue anymore than you or I about our OWN
my...nobody read books in my family! My father read ONE book the entire
time that I was there...ONE book!!! I feel that The Divine kind of nudged it
and I was a puppet and I said, “Yeah.” I could have said, “No,” but I said,
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