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Good.
You know we don't need the brains of Einstein to work this out.
And it's about time we started preventing them the next day is essentially it's a
learning theory redux.
It's the result of about three years of me thinking about something that I knew is
so wrong it's ridiculous.
Even if we make penicillin non aversive which you can only do with your voice Of
course you can do it
if you're using some kind of quantum panic like a leech call or a shock or a word
like no.
I think we've lost that way in dog training we've been barking up the wrong tree
for about 110 years
and I've worked out I think the reasons why this has happened.
It's the disappearance of verbal feedback and language from animal training.
It's nonexistent now and it's nonexistent anywhere in the field of learning which
is absolutely ridiculous
The implications are absolutely huge huge for getting rid of behavior.
We don't want whether you're talking dog horse Gibble husband Bill whatever the
final day is basically
We'll look at all the five reward based training techniques pros and cons of each
analyze training what
are we really trying to do and then come up with the quickest easiest way to get
off leash control.
So I'm with today this as you know is the day off to serious his birthday Sirius
was 30 years old yesterday
and even lit a big candle for Sirius when I got home and Toppi course is a great.
I got mad because someone stole my copy my copy was signed by my mentor Frank Beach
John Paul Scott
And I know I lent it to a serious puppy trainer 25 years ago and it was never
returned.
And I think I know who has it and I'm going to track him down because that was a
very special book to
me.
Anyway I put him up so they said socialization has to happen before 13 weeks.
Just goes the dog cart here and see doesn't mean to say he can't smell and feel.
And when we think what is the biggest quality in dogs I would say they are huggable
right.
Well it's the same thing just depends on whether the dog knows you or not.
If he doesn't know you then it's a grope or you're being handled and examined and
restrained.
And I don't see the point of living with a dog hog is really crazy if you have to
take your dog to the
It's like living with a husband every time you leaned over to give him a kiss on
the cheek he stabs
you.
You know the whole point of living together you know is to snuggle down on the
couch at night with the
fire a glass of red wine and you're playing with your dog's ears a little bit right
inside the ear splits
here and you put your finger inside and it's so soft and you whittle it around.
The dog's asleep his little nose will twitch and his paws will do this and he'll go
on which I anticipate
I learned years ago a friend of mine was a sloth expert a sloth behaviorist.
Right.
And so he took a small home with him on a coat hanger and he hung it in his closet
three months because
So you want to be like sitting in a chair reading a book or watching the telly when
you're observing
them.
Anyway after three minutes he brings it back and I say what do you find out.
All right.
So after three months that's all he had learned a few years later is down in
Australia at animal behavior
And the Australian slothing expert says well you know what you know about sloths.
And I says Oh not much Suzanne I mean either I only found out on things that you
know when they're really
But anyway to all intents and purposes socialization has to be a done deal before.
Three months went missing out in the puppy class is not a place to socialize a dog.
Puppy class is a safe for them to take a socialized dog to continue socialization
with people and to
revamp the socialization with dogs because they've been in a doggy social vacuum
since they left Mom
and the little Mapes unless there's all the dogs at home.
It's a place for the puppy to learn bite inhibition and it's a place for the puppy
for the owners to
Years ago when I was filming the original serious puppy training which incidentally
was the very first
Amazing how far technology has come since then and now you can go home and you can
make a training DVD
in an evening.
In fact Jamie I've often done that you know sometimes we film in the morning it's
up there somewhere.
The way he puts it that people can view it around the world.
It's up there within 24 hours filmed edited posted somewhere in the clouds and
during the filming of
the video.
He always pushed around by the director you can train as you want to train.
Well week to come in Grampian thingy week two people hadn't been doing the homework
and so it's making
Now I've learnt what pet dog training is pet dog training isn't training a dog.
I mean that's simple man if you can't train a puppy that come and sit.
I mean don't get out of bed in the morning just you know self in the foot right
away.
It's Pet Dog training is about teaching people what to do and then motivating them
to do it and checking
It's just like sunders lecture you know on an learnable training dogs you know we
teach them what to
OK.
So anyway I'm a little upset and a little bit of this speech is in the video and I
call it my ranch
in Sonoma speech.
And basically it's about the fate of puppies that puppy training to me offered me
an enormous window
on how puppies learn how problems develop that when I got into it was I started dog
development as you
We were really interested in how boys became boys and girls became girls.
But the secondary sexual characteristics urine marking fecal marking and the biggie
aggression.
So the study then morphed into a study of the development of social hierarchies.
Now when you look at male and female adults you think well are really different.
Well at the time I was dealing with behavior problems in adult dogs and some were
mystery dogs that
Now because it's all clear and really simple we know what's going on.
But it was when I started teaching puppy classes it's there it is.
The owners are slowly surely progressing fleet scaring the dogs out.
It's as if they read a book How Not to train your dog and I once wrote an article
called How to Train
your dog not to come when called and this was after Grendon camp and I were working
at the San Francisco
SPCA were having lunch in a park and we saw this woman calling her dog and it was
horrible.
I thought she's going to go over there and pump this woman out.
No response.
Come here.
Because when you scream at a dog like that the dog says yes I'll be right along.
You're going to grab me and when you get angry face and that's what she did.
-- right I won't.
Next time you call me the last thing we can do is come to you.
You grabbed me picked me off the ground screaming in my face and roll me on my
back.
And everything she was doing was wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
So the article was how to teach a dog not to come when called and it said number
one never do any prior
training.
Never never teach the dog the English language never give the dog an idea what you
want him to do.
Number two wait until the dog's at a distance and really distracted.
Like if he's chasing a squirrel or he has a nose up and out the dog's rear end and
then scream at the
So I get this I'm killer because I thought this is what people have been reading so
I thought I'd better
Believe it or not I got a letter saying Dear Doctor dumba I really enjoyed your
article and the Kennel
Club Gazette.
I thought oh my word never joke around again with that kind of stuff.
So I got into my route to Sonoma speech and which is pretty much the substance of
this lecture and what
And I said look guys were in the room we got 12 puppies here that young.
But at the moment from what I've heard you let them off leash at home.
They're all over the place you know watching them you're not giving them any
instruction.
We've got dogs already which are digging eating garden furniture eating plants many
of which are poisonous
I said I know what's going to happen to these dogs when they are five months old.
They're going to be relegated to the yard and you're going to say oh he'll grow out
of it.
This will get worse and worse when that dog has the jaws and activity of an
adolescent.
When the dog has the bladder about size of an adolescent this is a little pee and
poop.
This is a mess smeared all over your carpet and your dog's going into the yard
whereupon he will quickly
He thinks this is cool because now his little yips it travel a long way and other
dogs are replying
Actually I get to the shelter before you surrender him there because animal control
is going to pick
him up.
Why.
All day long for 10 hours when you're at work solitary confinement social animal.
Well he's going to destroy the basement because from lack of guidance you've taught
him to urinate and
He'll destroy your basement his stay there will be one to three months six to eight
months he's going
There's all this behavioral baggage shelter workers that go and try and have to
make this dog adoptable
if he gets out.
Why.
Because he's not housetrain not chew toy trained he barks all the time he's
hyperactive.
He's now fearful.
Why.
Because he didn't socialize much in the yard on his own or in the basement.
And when the kids came home from school he was so excited to see someone he jumped
up and knocked them
over.
Our person that person a person that they no longer let him inside did so.
Well in the shelter the fact is it's a sad fact there's too many dogs in shelters
their homes all of
Total freedom during the first month the first two months plus two and a half
months home.
Then we start confining the dog confined to the yard confined to a smaller basement
confined to a small
cage in a shelter and then eventually for many confined to a black plastic bag.
Well we're going to do today is this is formally the launch of a new program.
It is international.
As I start the day it is also being launched in England Australia and Japan.
All this stuff is already translated into Japanese and we're working on Spanish and
French and Portuguese
and we have to realize that dogs are dogs and they do doggie things.
It may seem surprising to some people but dogs pee they poop.
I mean I mentioned yesterday someone came to me and said I've got a big problem
with my dog.
Dr. -- I said What's this.
He barks.
Now you actually could surprise me if you came to me and Valerie said.
Well I was talking to my dog yesterday and I said good morning dog and it went.
So we have to accept this fact and we have to let every dog owner know when you get
a dog he's going
OK.
Because it's no good keeping household rules a secret or else the dog will do what
he wants to do it.
Why.
He'll do it on your kitchen and the urinal -- round through his feet and he's
happy.
Pause pause.
I'm cool.
OK.
Huskies don't.
Just as I think when raising a child the most important thing to teach that child
is how to stand on
I don't mean that physically I mean hey you could be in this world on your own you
know horrible stuff
happens.
I think the same way with a little puppy is the first thing I teach him the first
day he comes in to
And yes we're going to teach you a hobby because we know you probably can't do
crosswords or watch the
OK.
Because he's got to have activity.
Got to have something to do when left alone and that takes his mind off the fat.
So we know dogs develop house soiling destructive chewing excessive barking and
home alone.
Is it difficult.
No.
Single problem is the owners when they get the puppy at eight weeks don't have the
necessary information.
A lot of it's available in these two books which are free to everybody online.
Yes.
You download them you customize them with your own name and your e-mail to all your
clients to veterinarians
OK.
Wow.
But owners don't know it's there until it's too late.
The older the dog the longer it's had the habit the harder it is to resolve.
Yeah we can rehabilitate so we can have a dog that can function in the world but
that dog will never
So the moment at best socialized dog is do we picked up do and when he was six
weeks old before we got
him home.
So we picked him up in the evening and I think it was 4:30 at a conference and I'm
from a conference
He had been handled by about 250 people it's the little six week old puppy and he
loved it we picked
it up.
Everyone Oh what a cute six week old puppy for goodness sake.
Who wouldn't want a little 6 month old puppy now to have she goes with such stuff.
Just watch they don't glom onto you know because a six week old puppy will still do
it and they glom
on and you have a big hickey down your neck because you can pull them off.
So just remember that we then went to the red carpet club at the pool he met about
30 people there.
We flew in first class to just about everyone on the plane came out.
I sort of squished over with a little puppy have the seat to himself and everyone
came out and petted
But if you miss out on socialization it actually does become too late for the dog
to be what he could
have been.
It is harder.
So one of the maxims of poor is good habits are just as hard to break as bad habits
do.
Make sure your dog develops good habits from the get go.
Do not include a big red hound Rottweiler coonhound cross you know the doofus
Claude.
Let's say of all the dogs I have trained he requires the greatest number of trials
to get the criterion.
Twenty trials.
They've made the association that sit means your hams going to do that.
Claude took over two hundred trials to get a verbal come out.
The first thing he learned was go to your bed but he was so hardwired and for some
reason that he said
He looked earnestly and he'd run backwards and lie down on his bed right.
We didn't teach him that it's just a way of walking to his bed but he would run
backwards and drop them
He couldn't do it.
You must never move a beehive more than a couple of inches a day.
Have one day the dogs were running round the dining room table and one of the dogs
we had then on the
Well the bed is there four feet away and the space where his bed was that he
couldn't do it.
We have changed the exercise and I said Claude go to your bed Claude go to go to
bed and he's like this.
And he's big 110 pound dog like you but I don't don't tell.
I know it.
It is amazing.
It happened one day walking him and neither Kelly and I trained him.
We got him and I said Well when are you going to start his training.
I mean we did the usual thing you do with puppies you know we took him to a point
Isabel and let him
And 45 minutes later Kelly and I are still hiding behind this rock and it hasn't
even notice yet.
Maybe that was a little early in the relationship but we just put on a gentle
leader on him and walked
him on leash for like nine years and then one day I was walking him I thought I
wonder what he's like
off leash.
He is this dog.
And then we told him all these things so we didn't even start training him until a
year before he died
and we didn't know how old he was he could have been 12 or 14 because when we got
him from the SPCA
They know I mean they didn't know his teeth were worn down.
So anyway you can train the dog any time in his life and with each teaching like
obedience commands
Yes.
I feel for any of you here if you had a dog that wasn't well socialized like we did
to dogs I adopted
So we did our best and yeah I think they live good lives.
I don't know.
I think Claude had flashbacks to whatever his life was before I got him.
He would still have panics leading up to the last week when he was around but you
would say Claude.
Hello.
It's me Ian.
Oh sorry.
Now if we did have breeders in the seminar I'd be very delicate explaining that
because I think pretty
much when owners buy a puppy at eight weeks of age they are totally screwed.
They they're buying livestock a dog that has been raised to eliminate anywhere and
everywhere to anything
and everything doesn't even know it and purposely Oh no we don't teach him that
he's a show dog I think
they're getting the short end of the stick and this we have to change.
And I think we can do it when readers realize the benefits of a program like this.
So anyway back to the ranch in Sonoma for the dogs that go to the shelter.
Well we found him at a new home and an elderly couple with more space.
And I kept hearing this story and I thought there's got to be some wrong shop there
that I have to buy
has a couple of million dogs on it that you already know we know where it is right
and the kids know
where it is.
It's up in the sky and and it's kind of ironic because Jamie knows my son by the
way Jamie he days he's
he's the James and James and Kenneth and he knows my big dream is I want to run in
Sonoma County.
I want to go back and have a big round with loads of animals around you know horses
pigs sheep chickens
I just get up build a stone wall you know dig a pond or something like that.
Then the animals and it could well be I won't actually get the real ropes in Sonoma
County will just
Basically I think it was about 11 years ago we started open Paul Kelly my wife
myself and the purpose
of open pool was it was by request could we get the Berkeley Humane Society and
Berkeley animal control
And we tried pretty hard but essentially the answer to that question was no we
couldn't.
But we set up the computer program and this was at the same time the Davis shelter
medicine program
So we worked really closely which she led up to Sheila Gibson and and that was good
because I'm a veterinarian.
In fact when I was at college parvovirus didn't even exist we hadn't made it yet.
Yeah.
I would probably guess a cat vaccine in something like duck eggs and quite by
accident.
Why do I think this because it broke out in every single major city in the world
within a couple of
months.
I'm guessing cats I don't know could be humans but I'm guessing cats and then dogs.
Got it.
do and what you can't do with animals the size of their cages is written down.
So Kelly and I sat down and we devised some really simple minimal mental health
requirements for kenneled
adults or a puppy whether it's in the owner's home for the first couple of months
whether it's in the
vet clinic for hopefully a very short stay or whether it's at a shelter.
And these provide for comfort companionship entertainment and education pretty
basic right.
Simple things like an adult dog needs for trips to a doggy toilet a day.
And after eliminating requires three trips to the pretty simple That's how you
train the dog a puppy
All he needs to be confined in an area that has a toilet and is designed so his bed
is the farthest
Then a three and a half to four week old puppy will housetrained himself on the
other hand if you just
have him in a little pen with paper on the floor with it training him to go
anywhere and on paper.
I can't wait for Sunday morning when I'm reading the paper on the floor.
The puppy comes along with toilet how much up right on the sports page.
And the goal is I think how can we get these up and running in breeders can also be
a difficult one
That is more difficult because shelters are usually governed by boards and boards
of directors.
And if you've ever worked on a board most of it will know that the board probably
couldn't organize
a booze up in a brewery.
I mean it's very difficult to get boards to move quickly and make decisions.
It's why I like doing business with Dogstar daily board meetings the three of us
myself Jamie Kelly.
Jamie and Kelly against him and we start doing it that night.
OK.
So how do we do this.
We've got to predict and prevent predict and prevent those of you that came to my
cat.
Good Lord.
No you were there way though you knew who else you knew.
know what I've just forgotten I was going to tell you it.
Yes.
Absolutely it was just what I was going to say predict and prevent and predict and
prevent it.
You can't prevent it you know what it is that I gave you the dog training matrix.
OK.
And for those who don't have that you can get I think open ports in the open pool
manual.
And it's this is how I train people to be behavior counselors and I developed this
technique at the
San Francisco SPCA when I designed the behavior program in the middle of early 80s
that I was trained
the traditional way where you do it by subject I call them all cold ology
education.
I like this.
Then you get into zoology and then you move in your school and it's only colleges
physiology pathology
And when you are educated and you finish and and you pass and you become a
veterinarian and you're let
I remember every case I saw I thought What the hell's wrong with that animal.
I would do it the other way round and say What are the problems that animals have
what medical problems.
So if I were to say to you you have a five year old box in the waiting room tell me
what's wrong with
All right you have a seven year old Doberman in the waiting room.
Oh good lord wonderful so when the problem is you can't believe I'm going to get my
BMW.
Home alone.
Probably with a huge fear component and then the hyperactivity triad.
Yeah.
Is it 16 15 17.
So instead of just listing clicker training I'm not a union mogul unilateral
trainer.
Oh man.
Some people are just so you know everyone's going to be looking over your shoulder
now.
Yes.
And so for each problem you have 40 impossible tools the way you use the matrix is
you have to rank
order.
What are your training techniques you're going to use to use this to solve this
problem.
Well I would say confinement let's make it even better auto shaping because that
means you're confining
You're now going to confine the dog in a crate when you're home and every hour
you're going to take
him out.
To clear it up and then to give him three liver treats for doing it.
And this set of problems that's on the matrix will enable you to.
You know we know this because the San Francisco SPCA when I started this animal
behavior hotline that
was nationwide they wrote it up in the National Enquirer for several weeks.
We had a big A lot of big case histories we didn't put base after specifics on what
life had 100 cases.
It was based on about 10000 cases to the point when that phone rings.
But the problem they have to make money on it the way I did that was I asked anyone
I said Look how
When that phone rings I can tell you what animal they have.
And the problem the animal has five to one odds which means if you win I give you a
dollar if I win
Well I know there's a twenty five point four percent likelihood that that phone
call is a cat litter
box problem.
So every behavior counselor who came to me and the first one was Gwen Bonin camp.
I said right here's your first problem cat litter box training.
I'm going to give you thirty five minute education and you're going to save more
lives than any veterinarian
OK.
And when I finished I said all right now do you want to know how to house train a
dog.
Yes please.
Well go through your notes cross out the word kitten or cat and put in puppy or
dog.
Yesterday to the vet I was talking about how I housetrained a whole bunch of cows
when I was milking
them because they pooped everywhere and then I had to clean it up.
And farmers do this every day without thinking they milk and then they clean up all
the kale faeces.
I did it one day as a 15 year old and thought this is going to change and from now
on you poop in the
You are not going to walk slowly and can't do it when you're walking you know.
So you say you've got about an hour and a half work cleaning up.
I don't know whether he can remember this when I started off with him.
But when I put in battleships he loves that sink the battleship instead of spraying
this sort of thing.
Got I'm really focused you know I'm being sorry Jeremy that side.
it.
So
Well those of you who have read Scott and fuller and that's very old science by the
way.
Right.
Right.
Wrong.
So this is the big thing that came from Scotland Thaller you have the neonatal
period you have the transitional
period.
But you are going to be the same tomorrow as you are today.
Yes.
And this was called the critical period of socialization from three to 13 weeks.
k so can you socialize the dog when he's 5 months old or eight months.
Yeah but it takes a long time because each stimulus each exposure to a person has a
tiny effect.
Let me do it again.
Here we go.
We go like that.
OK.
Why between two and three weeks is when the eyes and ears open and then three and a
half weeks these
puppies start to play with each other the plane like maniacs and they continue to
play and the play
that they have with each other all the exposure they have to people effects and the
way they measured
it is contact latency.
So all this research and the observer wore a white lab coat all these poppish were
never touched by
humans.
You know this is you wouldn't do research like this these days it's it's bizarre.
So basically what happens is the research just stands at the end of a long
corridor.
And the puppy's cage is opened a little guillotine gate and that's the puppy.
And they measured how long was it before the puppy made contact with the person.
And what they found was exposure to people between 3 and 13 weeks stack the deck if
the purpose saw
people between 3 and 13 weeks they were really happy to run towards them when they
were tested later
if they didn't.
This stuff would never be done these days but it's so important that it was done.
These puppies were isolated and were shown humans that three and a half months or
four months.
So basically what they're saying is what you want the dog to do as an adult you
better make sure he
So I decided it up differently.
So I'll do my Grath.
One when you're inside secure soft and warm and then that moment next moment you're
out
I would say that's a pretty heavy duty transition for most Poppa's right.
When the puppy moves from the kennel breeders kennel to the owner's home.
The pipe is taken away from Mom littermates goes into a totally new environment
probably with children.
Man that's a change that makes a huge big difference.
I'm going to call it 12 three months because it's easy to remember and it's now
showing this is pretty
This to me is the transition between puppy hood and adolescence with a -- it can
happen overnight
with male dogs it will happen in about a week or ten day period.
You can time it pretty accurately 18 weeks by looking at the canine tooth.
So what you want to do is when puppies come into class if you know their birthday.
Take a picture of that muscle just the canine too and you can age dogs very very
accurately just by
looking at the canine tooth because if you see half a canine tooth he's too old to
puppy class.
You know as a vet student I took photos and when I knew their birthdays so now we
have these situations
Well little dogs probably by the time that to get them to be socially mature big
dogs they've got to
be about three.
But the whole point is adolescence is a period of behavior change and a lot of
stress especially for
male dogs.
We've got to get through it but luckily it only has to do with dog dog interactions
preventing behavior
So if a kid runs up and smacks him on the head pokes him runs into him with a
skateboard.
You can kick him you can hit him last night.
And I now get the other dogs chasing him too because it's hard for me to chase him
around around the
table after we come back from dinner at West side cafe where the party is tomorrow.
By the way you're all invited in about the party right party for serious.
Six to nine.
So I've just been out there and now I've got to chase the dog round the table.
I'm screaming.
So we get the plastic water bottle like a dong dong dong dong dong dong.
And you throw it in the air and he goes home and just flattens it the recycling.
It's you know it's so easy to do this stuff making sure that a dog is dubbed dog
friendly.
It's a challenge.
And it is by the way dog trainers dog syndrome a dog reactive dog much more dog
training has a higher
But it is a fact.
And yes you can get with a boy dog with good on doing this.
Now I don't know eight nine and he's still got his goolies on and never been in a
fight.
Been attacked many times but he just sits whacked his butt looks at you closes his
eyes and hopes will
go away.
And the other dog when he does that turns his back on them.
Yeah well I want you to look at my butt and Keller's innovation to get the dog not
only to you back
up.
Come here and sit.
OK.
Because you're presenting a non threatening stimulus to the other dog now.
You are an ant in the whole realm of things you are nothing nada compared to what I
have to do with
my own.
I have a mission.
And that's the best way to stop the dog being attacked.
If this same graph for a horse would go like this two days from birth to two days
you better do it all.
Yeah.
If it were a goose.
They bombed.
They imprint.
And it happens if you want to handle holes you better get in there before he's 48
hours old and you
pick him up and you get people to bang buckets and pop balloons and get white
sheets and flak in his
face and you pick up his little hooves and you tap on them like this with a hammer
and you put your
little finger up his rear end and then he pops the stomach tube.
he's up here.
He's 17 too.
Dogs take a long time two years to three years before they reach social maturity.
Human male is probably the the longest slowest maturing out Trinkle beast.
I think that human malicous because females always mature quicker in most mammals
human male I would
All right.
The breeder.
I think that potential puppy buyers let them know as I've looked at this problem I
think the best way
Well that's the one you want to link around and at the bottom is pertinent
information for breeders
Thinking about it here is something that you can email to vets that tells them why
they should judge
every single puppy owner that comes in because they have access to every puppy
owner.
If we look at areas which are relative risky or relatively safe from Pavo no area
is 100 percent because
the virus can come in through an open window dog poop that drives in the sun
someone treads on it Wolf
it's there.
One of the safest places is the home as long as outdoor shoes remain outside.
When a puppy is on board that means for three months you don't want to be bringing
in your outdoor shoes
as you try in dog poop and a puppy class area pretty -- safe if it's taught indoors
on impervious
floors.
The most dangerous places for a puppy to be both at the vet clinic.
The most dangerous place in the world is in the car parking lot where every sick
dog pees and poops
and it's probably not bleached.
Once a month if until the second most dangerous place the waiting room floor.
You know you can say well you know wait awhile before you go to puppy class and I'm
cool with that.
Wait until the dog three and a half months old four and a half months old.
I mean it's only four months old but he's got to stop before he's four and a half
months old.
But you must tell him socialization must happen at home and you must tell them
don't bring a dog into
the clinic keep him in the car carry him from CA to exam table when we're ready
let's keep him safe.
So that's written for you to e-mail the link to every veterinarian that you know or
to print it out
We've got to spread the word because veterinarians are essential to this program
working.
And so I've linked to lots of other veterinarians that are saying this.
They must tell people you've got to socialize your puppy safely at home and because
they are aware respected