okay guys we are rolling in to another episode of the Candis Owens show and this one is

a wedding special no I'm not talking about William and Kate or Harry and Megan I'm
talking about me I am getting married this weekend so we decided that we were going to
make this a wedding special and introduce you guys to my fiancé future husband George
farmer
welcome to the Candace Owen Show can we talk about how nervous I was do this
episode so weird you were pretty nervous I freaked out for about like two months saying
we couldn't do the episode because I just didn't know how to talk to you about you're
gonna freeze every time we spoke yeah I know I was freaking out about it but then I
figured it would be easy because I could just post something on Instagram and answer
asked for what they wanted to ask us and we would just go through it so we'll start with
the number one question that we were asked about our relationship which was how did
you guys meet and it is a very very interesting story well so I mean you know this story
from my side okay so you came to do an event in London in December and that was to
launch turning-point UK with Charlie and the first time we actually met was at the RSC
Club Royal Automobile Club in London on Palomar and you were giving a speech and I
think from that moment onwards the connection was made and then the next night we
had this highly convoluted
dinner which we've talked about she talked about before where basically you thought
somebody else was hosting it and I thought I was hosting it and then eventually you
turned up three hours late I would like to make that point now I showed up three hours
late to a dinner where I was supposed to be seated next to him because I had no idea that
dinner was going on until about two hours into the dinner correct and it wasn't just me
there it's a reference it was like a whole host of people who are waiting to have dinner
with you great and then after that we went back and forth to America where I came to
America to come to a student action summit at the end of last year and then came back to
the UK and then by mid-January we were engaged right so just to give everybody
contacts we got engaged after two and a half weeks maybe I think it was about that time
yes right right
which is pretty crazy yeah well win Romans I believe I know it's it was really strange
because it was so not my character for me to ever think that I would be a person that said
I got engaged after two and a half weeks and it sort of begs the question and
something that Allie Stuckey and I talked about because I mean she's not pregnant about
to give birth or probably already has given birth by the by the time this episode airs
improvement but and she actually met her fiancé really quickly and they got married and
one of the things that we always talk about is we kind of live in this culture now where
people think that you need there's this like system right you need to meet somebody you
date that person for a length of time three years five years then you need to get engaged
and and so it goes and yet the people that I know in my life where the relationships have
last the longest always a very quick engagement my grandparents were a very very fast
engagement I know another couple that's 25 years they dated and were married within six
months I think your parents are within then my parents within 14 months yeah and I
mean you'll complete your I mean the people there was a person i sat down with I mean
telling the story to everyone is always quite interesting because you get a whole range of
reactions and I mean we both know that there was quite some quite entertaining reactions
at the beginning people be like this is ridiculous and you're never going to work and all
that kind of stuff and then and then there was also the reaction where I sat down with a
friend of a friend of a friend and I told him the story and by the end of the story he burst
into tears because he said I've never heard something like that before apart from my
grandparents who were married 58 years and only you know separate what they didn't
separate his grandfather died and so it is it's one of those things I think our culture today
encourages these kind of long romances which don't necessarily lead anywhere let's put
like that and actually sometimes I mean when you know you know is they everyone said
when you know you know and so as a result it was kind of when I met you I knew and
that was it and so it was just the case and I love I love uh story I think it's incredible story
I mean like how many people can say that I know not only people and most people are
overthinking it I know girls that are in these sort of tragedy of relationships ten years ten
plus years married um breakup galore
seventeen thousand times and they finally you know get the ring and that's supposed to be
a celebration great if it's what you want mine just happened in a different way and I never
thought it would happen to me to say when you know you know but I definitely knew
and so the other question obvious that people are asking is how did he propose which is
kinda crazy your story say yeah that were that there's actually two there's actually two
proposal stories I think that's fair to say right I guess the one without the ring the one
without the ring and the one with the ring okay the one without the ring was when I was
on a plane and I facetimed you and I said hey I've got this after how many
weeks it was like turn off wait three weeks yeah exactly and I and I said hey I've got this
crazy question for you I don't know how you feel about this but I mean this is such a 21st
century whether we engage like 2019 engagement based I race FaceTime right first time
on a be a flight and I said I don't really know how you feel about this but I love you I
want to spend the rest of my life with you and will you marry me and I think you're so
stunned by this like what that you just said yes without even like considering the honestly
I'm just holding my phone and I got pulled my car over do you remember where you are
you're just like stuck and it was and he said yes and I was just like wow that was
surprisingly easy right and you and what you said particularly was I want to ask you
something in case this plane goes down I mean the line was this line was yeah in case this
plane crashes and I then went on like a flight where there was no Wi-Fi so freaking out
for the next like you know how many hours now what if the plane actually crashes um
but obviously did not give me a ring then because you were headed to South Africa for
about 10 days on holidays correct and then when he actually gave me the ring which he
did get down on one knee it was a couple of weeks later well actually on the 14th of
February just to be really cliché yeah just City super and that was at a restaurant in
Philadelphia where you were living at the time and we went for a Valentine's Day
Valentine's evening date as you do I know it was that restaurant I will never forget there
that was hilarious I walked in there and every single table was couples I mean there was
not a single table in that restaurant which was not a couple typical balance yeah of course
there of course and then and then what happened you know halfway I mean it's as a guy
by the way I mean I will say that there's quite an it's quite an interesting dynamic when
you're about to get down on one knee I mean obviously I don't know once and sir it's it
was it was they it was quite an experience I say I did you get incredibly nervous you then
have to think about the logistics of getting down on one knee such as like how close is the
table beside you are you gonna crash into the table beside you to get down on one knee
which side do you go on to get down on one knee first of all this is all the questions you
have to ask not only that but it I don't know whether you remember this but it we brought
it was bring your own bottle right to the restaurant right and we had the two bottles of
wine we were gonna drink at dinner on the right and the right side was much more kind
of accessible to get down so I had to kind of shift them with my feet sort of under the
table and cross to the other side right so that I could clear enough space and then I kind of
shifted my chair over and then eventually and then I got very nervous and then you
thought I was laughing at you because I started laughing at laughing and you're like do
you have something on my face like what's wrong yeah I was looking for the inside joke
you were like is there something above me on my hair and I'm just kind of stuff and then
I and then I kind of like awkwardly crashed onto one yeah and then enough and then
open up the box and said and December us will you marry me and at which point you
froze and then the
ripple effect again something that you are only probably going to experience once in your
life is we're certainly for me only once in my life the ripple effect of asking that question
around the restaurant was incredible I know it was unbelievably when the super was like
winning a Super Bowl the bombs gone off I don't know what it was it was just like what
is the cup was exploding and exploded yeah they just explained the two couples on the
either side went mad and then as soon as they found out then the other cop was
fundamental you had half the restaurant and everyone was cheering and hollering and it
was incredible they instantly become your best friend I know it was awesome yeah and
then everyone comes up to us and is like oh congratulations the girls like let me see the
ring hint to the boyfriend at the restaurant I think we made the point that everyone else
does dinner had probably been ruined and other guys didn't have probably been ruined
because of the fact that I had proposed it that some of the conversations that a lot more
serious around us right what are we doing yes exam four years before use these guys have
just met right so true so another question if you want to know is what do you do where
did you come from and I guess what were you well how did you get into politics you
were there that night because Charlie cook and I were on stage having a conversation
ranting against sort of the spread of socialism and
Marxism so what is your story where are you from well I was born in London I'm 28
years old and I grew up here I grew up in London and I went to school in I basically spent
up until I was 18 I spent my entire life in London and then I went to university I went
University of Oxford and I graduated ox from 2011 what'd you major in we say major
you guys just say what did you study what did you study I studied theology religious
studies basically and I specialized in the ancient church and did classical Hebrew and
studied a variety of different things I mean in the UK the university system just as a side
point is quite different the USU you guys I believe spend two years sort of doing lots of
different things and then you major for the last two years I think way totally how you
work right and so in the UK's you don't you from age 15 you spend the next four years at
school next three years at school deciding what you're going to study University and in
essence and you narrow down the subjects until you eventually pick one and then you go
to university you study that for the next three years or in the case of Medicine seven years
in the case of law and other degrees sometimes longer sometimes one that never shorter
than three years and so I studied theology and then I graduated from Oxford in 2011 and I
went into banking I worked an investment bank in London for about a year and a half and
then I left that and I work I have done for the last seven years worked with my father and
he and I have run a hedge fund although it's quite an unusual fund in as much as its base
it trades base metals and it trades which is in the commodities sector and it's unusual
because most hedge funds are involved with kind of macro long short strategies I won't
bore everyone with 1000 fires terms basically lots of kind of different portfolios bonds
equities everything we were a very specialist fund we just dealt in metals we just steel
and base metals and we've always kind of specialized in that that's what we've done that's
what I've done for the last seven years and then the politics side of things so the politics is
always but kind of been a very big part of my family life I guess in some ways I mean my
family as you
know quite a political family in some ways they we all have very different opinions we're
all a broad range of opinions within the family and so from a very young age we were all
exposed to a fair amount of argument for one of a better terms so you know
from age 8 we were talking about kind of who the next prime minister would be and what
would that how that affect the country and so from so from a young age I was kind of
immersed in this political culture and that got me very interested and then as a result I
sort of joined various politics societies when I was at school and got involved with
politics at Oxford and then and then my father he sits in the House of Lords he is a
conservative he held that he holds the conservative whip which in the UK means that he
is answerable to some extent to the Conservative Party right and so he was treasurer of
the Conservative Party as well and that kind of that involvement with politics over here
got me more exposed and it's always been something I've been very interested in anyway
so I didn't need encourage so I kind of went in with an open mind to sort of see a lot of
different conservative politicians which side of the party I would fall on develop my
political philosophy and sort of in the last few years certainly since Rex's and before the
rest referendum but really the brakes to referendum in the UK kind of clarified a lot of
people's where they fell on the spectrum a lot of people's political thoughts so after that I
kind of ramped up my political involvement I would say so I've been in kind of more
exposed to politics since 2016 obviously the election of the president Donald Trump got
kind of that has a ripple effect around the world I mean yes yeah you guys you guys I
mean like just sort of like the broader UK community seemed really interested in what's
going on in America and I would say that's true of all of Europe people
seem to be very fascinated for all the worlds fascinating what's going on with Donald
Trump so I guess as somebody that grew up here and in London what is the interest what
is the draw what is what is it about Donald Trump that is sort of stirring up all of these
conversations well what happens in America has direct impact around the rest of the
world I mean it's the leader of the free world it's the most powerful country on earth it's
got the largest economy the largest military I mean by many objective measures
America's the greatest country in the world many times over so are you using me for
American citizenship yeah okay that's right I just wanted to get that out of the way not
just weekend no but it's what happens in America has a direct representation well it's
more a political mantra that what happens on University campuses in America will five
years later happen on University campuses in Britain okay and so and that's just a broader
term really to encapsulate the fact that what goes on in America will eventually end up in
Europe will eventually end up influencing the world will eventually end up being a
political argument in both Britain in France and Germany in southern Europe etc so the
world has to be conscious of what's going on in America you cannot you cannot divorce
geopolitics from America it's crucial and so therefore the presidency of America has huge
impacts on what goes on in Britain now do you think that that is just because of the size
of America I think it's gorgeous it's a combination of the economic factor the size of
America the influence I guess work kind of very culturally it does I mean there's a huge
number of factors which play into that I mean it's both the history of the countries I mean
Britain and America have very special relationship anyway I mean the anglo-american
bond is very close we speak the same language we've fought beside each other in the
same Wars we share a common philosophy on life we share a common outlook on
capitalism I mean anglo-american capitalism is very different to franco-german statism
right it's just the mentality in many ways it's to do with language it's also to do with the
fact that of course America was born out of Britain in many ways you know the war of
independence is a Revolutionary War as you call you know was was a war against Britain
and that's a part of our history as well and then you're tied into a bigger english-speaking
world so you've got England you've got where you got Britain you've got South Africa
you've got Australia you've got New Zealand you an
America these countries are united by a common language and when we talk about the
West we don't just talk about we're not just talking about the West country's literally in
the Western Hemisphere we're talking about a political philosophy which unites Australia
as well you know which is not in the West or arguably earth depends of course where you
drop the pin in the globe but let's just call up let's just call it not the West is normally
considered part of the East right so it's the political philosophy of the West is very much
centered around the Anglosphere it's centered around what Britain and America and the
Western nations are doing and America as the most powerful nation out of all of them
sets the tone for a lot of what will follow in in in Western Europe and the kind of broader
sphere of the West so what goes on with the American presidency always has an impact
in Britain it whereas just as intro well we're not just as interested in it as our politics but it
certainly is a key part of a LARP sort of political worldview what the presidency is doing
in America and how America is reacting to certain trends and developments will always
be a crucial part I mean take an example like for example the Iraq war right I mean that's
a that's a that's a key one because you know it was the president under the President
George Bush that you went with that America went into Iraq and America summoned its
closest allies to follow them into the coalition right so therefore Britain was drawn into
that
conflict as well so it's kind of like what you do is not symbiotic but we have a we have a
relationship which is very close so therefore we have to know how knockers thinking
because it affects us directly I mean there was a there was somebody who quite
entertaining a Rowan article after the Britain's just ordered some new aircraft carriers
right and America I believe has ten aircraft carriers and the UK has two aircraft carriers
right and somebody wrote some of you reckon article basically saying it's completely
irrelevant you might as well just say we both have twelve right because it's that's how
that's how they think about the military development the military corporation is so close
right the security cooperation is so close etcetera so I mean that's why I guess the election
of Trump kind of then further polarized an already polarized society I mean you've we've
spoken many times about Brexit and Trump there I think the debates are very similar on
both sides of the Atlantic you know you can draw
direct parallels right and I think that's why Nigel in many ways is has gone so far here
with Brexit and it's the one thing that I will say that I really noticed differently about our
two cultures which is actually one of the questions that someone asked but it's just you
guys don't say what you mean here like if there's this British way of talking around
everything and not really saying what you mean and sort of being American can be very
offensive when you just come out and we just sort of say it and that's not I mean I'm one
level of commanders clarify them right exactly on one level it's nice and I think that you
guys are trying to be polite but when me and Charlie were speaking at the universities I
actually saw a lot of danger in terms the way that you guys don't have free speech here or
maybe you just guys are just not even willing to have free speech here and certainly
things are because they're sort of improper to talk about right and you're kind of
considered inflammatory if you talk about things that are actually happening here right
and so talking to a
lot of the journalists there's this really weird culture of not saying what you mean or
pretending that you don't see what's going on yeah I think yeah I mean I there was not
couch I was
an interview I did with publication in London I think earlier on this year and they
described my Twitter feed as inflammatory and really I don't really think of it as
inflammatory I just think of it as stating the obvious exactly and I think you're probably
talking to the wrong Brits about this because I tend to be quite blunt about things tend to
be pretty straightforward but yeah there is a culture of politeness over Hawaii where it's
just not British just to say something's to say certain things or it's or at least look the
avoidance of conflict is a key part of the British psyche here's the thing I think you have
to differentiate the difference between callings being polite and being politically correct
you can be polite right if you walk in and you see somebody that's really obese it's not
necessary to be like hey you're fat right let's it mean that's just like that's just impolite
right but there's the difference is political correctness is almost ignoring the truth right so
politically correct which is like when we when we did that interview with the London
Times and I was sort of talking about the things that really matter that you should be
talking about at least here in Europe which is the migrant crisis which we're seeing with
Germany's going through
we're seeing what Sweden is going through and the journalist looked at me that I had ten
heads and it was just sort of like we don't talk about the migrant crisis here that's political
correctness right where that's actually you're treading a different
territory it's something that could
ultimately be dangerous yeah I think I
mean yeah you're completely right but at
the end the truth will out is it is an
old adage which i think is is relevant I
mean you've got it in the same way that
America I think America probably suffers
from a similar there is there is a
similar disease in America certainly on
the university level but there's also an
inability to I mean for example like
look at your politics I got to a stage
where you have the Republicans were
fielding these really nice guys right
Mitt Romney was a really nice guy like
most people look I don't know him
personally but I I'm told and certainly
by the way he interviews he was a very
nice guy right and he got crushed right
you know it took somebody with the
bravado and the sort of bomb basa t of
like of Donald Trump to come in and
shake up the political system say hey
guys stop being so nice about this we've
got out we've got a we've got to fight
back and I think in the same way the UK
we're reaching that point where we're
just like we're fielding very nice
people you know it's like uh everyone's
terribly nice right now
Nigel Faraj comes in and says wake up
write you we've got to stop being nice
about the European Union it's it's
crushing our nation right and
and he comes in and he shakes up the
entire political system I know there is
a point at which look it the ultimate
weapon that everybody in a democratic
nation has is the ballot box right in
the UK we don't have the same gun laws
we we're not gonna you know we cannot
resist government control but we can
fight it through the ballot box right
and that eventually at the end of the
day the one X in that in the in the
voting ballot ballot slip is what we
have as a weapon
I think that's what will democratic
people have and therefore as a result
you have to fight back with democracy
right I think sometimes people can be
surprised at what they deemed to be
these ideological revolutions taking
place here it's brexit in America Donald
Trump in Brazil it's both Cynara in
Italy it's salvini but I think when you
start to breed a culture of political
correctness but there's always wanting
to spend that bubbles beneath the
surface because like you said you cannot
talk about the truth you can go around
the truth but at the end of the day
there it is and it starts to sort of
swirl like you know like a like a
hurricane on the map that's just waiting
to hit and then people go well where did
this come from where did this come from
things were going well well they weren't
going well you were pretending things
were going well you're pretending that
the world was getting better and you
were true for you to discuss the truth
and that's how you get these people that
are completely like dazed and confused
when Trump wins and they do you mean you
obviously you and I watch clips the
whole time of the night Trump won
because if you're ever in a bad mood you
really should fill up the clips of CNN
never be President the United States of
America even tweets because it's so good
that there's no way doesn't put him the
other day when he was just like the tip
of The Simpsons where he's president and
then like and then it clips to somebody
being like he's right I mean and it was
exceptional and it just shows you that
people become so deluded by political
correctness that they become completely
out of touch with what's happening in
their own nation how the people are
feeling and that's sort of how you
arrive where we are all right I'm going
to get to some of these questions occur
that were sent to us through Instagram
that people want to know about our
relationship okay number one what is
your biggest cultural difference tomato
tomato I don't know no there's a lot of
them there you guys have told I mean
listen up you guys have different names
for vegetables
to you I don't get this is I think it's
because you taxed it so we ended up
throwing it yeah we're okay with coffee
now
after you tack another thing to do with
it love coffee I'm drinking yeah I don't
know what I don't the biggest cultural
difference between us and people I mean
people tend to think that there's this
ditch that many I wouldn't say that's
like yeah i i mean i think i think
actually would be and i wouldn't put you
in this realm but what i just talked
about with political correctness was
actually gonna say exactly yeah polite
here there is a difference yeah i mean i
think yeah probably is it i mean just
the way the british psyche works like i
noticed an america bit like that you do
you do have your moments
yeah i mean i I was brought up here and
you know it
it's imparted on to you you know you you
reserve judgment you you kind of hold
yourself back I mean I would say I'm I'm
in a kind of hybrid gray zone between
America and Britain in many ways because
I sort of I do speak my mind quite
openly and I will tell somebody if I
think they're just talking rubbish but
it's but still I sort of have that like
yeah you do and I'm just the exact
opposite yeah you could run like the
poor airline stewards who sometimes have
to put up with you know I know I know I
kind of go right into it okay what is
your favorite thing about each other oh
that's such a difficult question so
there's a lot of things okay um I mean I
wouldn't say it's my fear there's a lot
of things I like about you but I'm
really into I would say the hunting
stuff ah I was very into this so when I
first met you I didn't really I didn't
know super ignorant about hunters and
hunting in Africa I'm shooting birds and
stuff and I come from really kind of a
very ignorant climate I mean I'm from
the coast I grew up a Connecticut
there's not exactly people that go out
hunting too much in this great state of
Connecticut but I knew there wasn't
argument to be made for hunters I still
cringe I have to be honest a little bit
when I see someone like the trophy
pictures of like a lion but then when
you started discussing because you spend
a lot of time in Africa which is an
interesting interesting tidbit about you
you grew up kind of yeah going back and
forth from Africa yes it's been part of
my life since I was two
right and now I'm totally fascinated
about hunting we could do an entire
separate episode on hunting and you
telling me the stories about hunting and
almost dying and all of these things it
makes me realize how Americans are just
completely so out of touch with nature
and out of touch with the environment
that we then creates these social causes
that nobody understands which is the
truth being that if you want to conserve
if you're interested in conservation
then you would be the people that can
serve the most are the people that go
over to Africa and hunt and they are
also saving human lives because there
are these animals that are marked
because they've just tore apart an
entire village I mean correct me if I'm
wrong and then they're kind of mark to
go hunt and we kind of had this whole
sessile the lion over here I mean the
number of trail I mean okay there's
there's several things you said about
hunting I mean as you guys say you could
do an entire episode on this but but
briefly what the the the nations where
you hunt right enough in in in Africa
and across the world it's not just
Africa by the way I mean you know you
know I've been hunting in Eastern Europe
and and further afield as well there is
a direct the sustainability of the
livelihoods of those who are involved in
hunting is dependent upon the the hunted
animal right so if you're if you're
going to hunt wolves in Eastern Europe
or you're gonna go and hunt kudu or
whatever antelope or big-game ins in
southern Africa there is a direct vested
economic interest in that nation right
to keep the lively the livestock alive
right because they because they suddenly
get what hang on a sec we can charge
people a fortune to come in and hunt
these animals so therefore we need to
make sure we have these animals right
it's just a very it's a very basic
economic equation so the countries where
you go and hunt in southern Africa so
let's just eggs am here for example
because I've been hunting a fair bit in
Zambia and the Zambian government Divis
up a quota for every single animal that
they have in Zambia and they assign
quotas to each different hunting lodge
now what that means is that each hunting
park and hunting lodge has a direct
interest in getting in keeping those
animals alive and breeding them for the
next generation right so therefore
you can go off to Zambia and you can
hunt whatever you want to hunt right and
the game park will be will have
anti-poaching squads it will have
villages which are implemented which are
employed on the hunting lodges it will
have chefs it will have drivers it will
have people who work at the airport
nearby acceptor et cetera so the whole
sustainability of the local community is
actually based on a hunting park right
so therefore the country has a direct
interest in conservation often in
countries where they ban hunting or in
areas where they ban hunting there live
the livestock populations take a
dramatic decline because either the
locals will go and kill them because
they're a pain right so like you've got
loads of lines around you well there are
pain so let's go and kill them or be the
poachers we'll come in hunting conduct
that's work it's bad and I think in
America particularly there they conflate
the idea of a poacher with the idea of a
hunter yeah exactly it's totally totally
different I mean like hunting I mean
you're paying your it's an expensive
sport you'll pay it you're often paying
quite a lot of money to go into a
country I mean first of all you got to
get there that's expensive you've got to
then go and buy a hunting license that's
expensive you gotta go and pay for your
quota that's expensive so you're you're
and all that money's going to the
country right so you're not you're not
paying it to some person back home
you're paying it to the Zambian
government you were paying it to the
local safari park right so that that's
all part of the economic equation right
the poachers come in they're normally
employed by crime syndicates run out of
run out of the far-east
particular in Southeast Asia where
things like elephant tusks and rhino
horns have considered to have
aphrodisiac qualities so they'll be run
out of crime syndicates there's no money
coming into the country
they'll employ a local they give them
the equivalent of a year's wages which
in that part of the world is often
peanuts right and then they'll go out
they'll take extreme risk two or three
of them they'll kill anybody who gets in
their way to get to the animal and then
they'll shoot the animal they'll shoot
the animal chop off a part of its body
and then just leave the carcass right
that's poaching poaching is extremely
evil and there's that you know I mean
that's why the governments of Southern
Africa take huge anti poaching measures
because it devastates local populations
and it's it's hugely damaging for the
local local communities so there's
there's no way I mean I completely agree
with you that it's often conflated that
basically going off and hunting big game
is like equivalent to poaching which is
just not and isn't it there's no
comparison between the two now of course
the whole point is sustainability so
that's why you have a quota system
whenever I like you can't go off and
just you know you can't just you like
machine gun down a whole load of animals
because you feel like it you know you go
off and hunt one animal for a week that
will be it right and then oftentimes
you're feeding the village yeah yeah I
mean like I mean the times I've been
hunting I mean I I've stuck to antelopes
pretty much and so you know when when
you when you shot an antelope and in
that part of the world the the meat is
all chopped up and given to the local
village I mean that's that's just what's
done and that's feeding the local
community as well I mean there's a
there's a direct correlation and it and
you know the yeah the other testimony is
also I always find it funny that Western
liberals other people who get the most
aggravated about this but the local
populations of the southern African
nations love it when you come down you
know that I mean they're the most
excited so it's it's like again it's the
privileged privileged people who live in
London New York and Los Angeles who tend
to be like how dare you do this without
really any comprehension of what's
actually going on in the real world I
like the most is that they they also
pretend that the animals are super
innocent like he's like if the animals
saw you all it wants to do is be your
friend I mean they're so out of touch
with reality and the way people are
living overseas I mean I've only been to
Africa once and I went to Uganda and
there's you know the wildlife there's
there's certain hours of the day where I
stayed we were not allowed to walk
outside because the animals are vicious
hippopotamus is I mean there recall of
all of these animals it's like Lion King
right like but everybody was so nice on
Lion King and now we have people going
and hunting them and it's like these
animals if given the opportunity will
charge you and kill you and the hippos
were beautiful where I saw them in
Uganda they were on a little circle and
so they they had these chairs so we can
go near them and behind them all of the
African men we're staying behind there
with guns and they said do you know how
fast the hippo will kill you it's one of
the most vicious animals in the wild it
will charge you it will kill you and
they have a very high death told
Africans
so it's almost like they put they are
prioritizing the animals in Africa over
the Africans yeah but unless they need
to adopt a child then they go right to
Africa will you say that I mean that's
by the way that's that's that is
actually how a lot of them think I mean
I certain I mean certainly I know I've
come across a couple of wildlife
photographers who would prioritize an
animal's life over a human's life right
I could see that yeah I mean it's
certainly not impossible and I think the
I mean the other the irony being going
back to your point about the animals
being terribly nice there was actually a
very funny video made I think by hunter
actually after that settable I'll assess
all the lion things who came out where
they were that's where they were doing a
documentary on the sort of fake
recording the lives of the antelope that
Cecil the lion had killed and sort of
being like being like you know like dead
due to is distraught the fact that her
husband has just been eaten by sessile
the lion you know it is one of these
things where like do you ever do you
ever you ever impact I mean we actually
saw this the other day in fact I'd she
this is border famine ridgey there was a
there was a vegan couple who tried to
save the life of a wildebeest as it was
being attacked by a lioness
right and consequently we were both put
in critical condition by the lioness who
was like get off my get off my dinner
right it's my dinner and this is that
this is the mentality that occupies them
they're like they're like we must
preserve the animal kingdom forgetting
that the animal kingdom is the most
vicious is the most brutal is only
humans who have learned to live in peace
with one another right and I mean that's
part of it I mean there was also I mean
feeding into the same conversation is
like pets pets who have come out and
said if you feed your dog and cat vegan
meals it is animal abuse because they
require protein right and this was a
very interesting conversation which was
had over here vegans over here were
feeding their pets vegan meals right and
and the vets were like we're sick to
death of you coming in with with all
these with all these sicknesses amongst
your pets because you're choosing to it
you're choosing to subject your life
choices on to somebody onto something
else which has no decision-making
process of its own here if you've got a
domestic cat and you're feeding it a
vegan meal you can't then the cat can't
go out and kill something because if
it's a domestic cat it stays inside
right so you you're subjecting it to
your life choices and
whereas a child can grow up and say mmm
I'm not really so keen on being a vegan
I'm gonna go and eat meat the cat has no
option so again it's the same kind of
like West sort of liberal mentality has
completely taken over people's brains
said like there's pockets of
liberalism's I think it like you just
said where they actually take place it's
New York it's California they are so out
of touch with nature that I'd touch the
wild they're out of touch with the idea
of survival instinct that they all could
use just a free trip to Africa and say
hey you know what gulps of lions you
know pet them talk to them about their
feelings and see what happens near these
stories over and over again I mean it's
insane I just don't understand how
people could you know could could kill
an animal for its skin nurse or kill an
animal for for its boots or whatever it
is all right well then you go talk to
the crocodile about how you're saving um
making sure nobody uses its skin and let
me know how it goes
I often say that the Western liberalism
could be cured by a trip to Africa
because I think regardless of your
debate whether or not it's to do with
the animal world or whether it's to do
with whatever it might be to do with you
you let's put like this they're not
having a debate about which bathroom to
unite in Africa right because at the
moment it's about survival it's
remarkable when we talk about this a lot
the idea of over civilization where your
society that can become so civilized
that it starts going backwards and it
you start trading just toward stupidity
it's like my game where you're just
debating bathroom science but you're
you're way too privileged way to
civilize if we are even talking about
bathroom sides I mean go to Africa this
is like one of you and I were really big
into just watching clips on the internet
and just cracking up for hours the best
clip I mean the one that just never gets
old is this African reporter who's
breaking a story and interviewing
someone because they cannot grasp the
concept
are you gay or being a lesbian and and I
mean the interviewer is you know welcome
here to the show and he's got this woman
who's a lesbian
he's a my girl some were lesbian and and
he and he just turns around to her and
his question and this this African voice
is just what are you gay yeah why are
you gay right and the guys like who says
I'm gay yes you're gay yeah
that's it it's this opposition you exact
I'm in that way something we've talked
about a lot I think over you apps you
write the word over Civilization is a
great word I mean I've been to in even
the Far East as well I mean like I
mentioned before you know that I've been
to I went it wolf hunting well-liked but
even so like I went to I went to this is
gonna something made me sound like
really sort of edgy and trendy I'm not
don't worry as you won there but but I
went to Bhutan which is this kingdom in
the middle of the Himalayas is the last
Himalayan kingdom and it's a Buddhist
kingdom it's basically sealed off to the
world it's very difficult to get into
and they perform a they are part of a
Buddhist theology which involves a
tantric Buddhism which is a form of
sexual Buddhism and this was about this
was about six years ago I think it was
seven years ago and I said to them you
know I said well what's the kind of
feeling about the gay rights movement in
in this part of the world and they
looked at me as if I was an alien they
had never even heard of this and I said
well you know the relationships between
men and relationships between women and
they just said well yeah he's my friend
you know I mean I like please explain
kind of thing Anna it was just bizarre
because it it was it was a case where
we've got to it we've got to a point in
the Western world where the debates
become self-fulfilling we start talking
about these issues they've become issues
the issues develop their own issues when
I eccentric cetera et cetera so a stop
to it when are you ever gonna be solved
we're just spiraling toward so much so
much confusion and anger and angst and
emotion and you travel to any of these
countries and and that's the thing I say
about Americans when you see these
Americans that are the craziest the most
leftist asked in how many countries
they'd been to outside of America mm-hmm
it's always hundreds of Mexico
I'm spring break you know I mean or like
they did a you know I did a semester
abroad in in the UK you know somewhere
where they're not really getting this
understanding of how the rest of the
world is right and I'm like have you
been to China
have you been to even Eastern Europe I
mean it's it's a totally different thing
when you're in Croatia right I mean it's
and they're not well-traveled and I
think that that's one of the things that
I was afforded in my twenties that I was
able to travel and really see the world
and just
made me more realistic about the non
problems that we have in Western
civilization were the most dissatisfied
people and the most over privileged
people how is that possible look if you
live in Siberia you're not gonna have
the choice as to whether or not you'd be
a vegan and pick your gender great let's
put it like that right you know I mean
you're just not gonna have that choice
either the decisions that we're making
in the Western world today are a result
of the luxury of the other of the
sacrifice made by the men and women who
died in the Second World War in the
First World War
and ushered in the greatest era of peace
that the Western world has ever seen
it's total luxury we have these are
luxurious choices we're making in an
affluent over privileged society you get
to make these choices if you're
struggling to survive you do not get to
make these choices there's a quote that
works something I can't think of it off
top of my head but it's basically a
saying that tough times produces you
know tough men and peaceful times
produces weak men and we're now
suffering for I talk I talk about which
is a shortage of masculinity you know as
50 is a shortage of surge of masculinity
and you have people that are crying and
looking for ways to be upset okay okay
where are we going to live the US or the
UK it's splitting time between the two I
think is the first fair assessment yes
until children until children and we
make up our minds right it depends on
where the school systems are at and in
each environment and right now they're
both looking like a disaster so maybe
Russia maybe inclusion right maybe
Africa right what has surprised you the
most about being in an interracial
relationship oh wow that's a good
question question well done whoever
asked that question what's your answer
there I mean I wouldn't I mean I could
say I wouldn't say this is necessarily
surprised me it's just it's so
predictable was it sort of like the
space that we're in but that the
leftists the Liberals the most racist
stuff that we get under the comments are
the Liberals which is like oh great
you're marrying a white man you're
marrying a white daughter I'm just like
what would you have that we go backwards
into others miscegenation it was an
actual crime to get married if you fell
in love with the opposite with the
opposite race in America it was an
actual crime it was a rule
and it just sort of feeds what we talk
about all the time which is that the
left is so woke they're backwards yeah
right which is like they want to bring
back Ferguson they want to bring back
miscegenation progressively regress yes
so progressive their regrets about this
the whole time so I wouldn't say I was
surprised by it but you know just I'm
always surprised by their lack of
awareness I would say I'll tell you what
I've enjoyed more than surprised me
Ebonics the understanding of Ebonics in
yes I this was not even I I wasn't even
aware this sort of thing I mean this is
also a cultural things well I think
because I'm not sure it applies oh it
does it no that means no it is it's it's
a it's a black thing in America where
we've sort of invented our own language
I didn't even realize how fluent I
wasn't Ebonics
you're welcome to know when you and I
well I guess a grew up in a black
household so it's just the way I you
know the way my cousins talk currently
and so George and I will be like walking
down the street and a black lady will
walk by and be like well okay and George
will look confused
like oh she's she's saying that I look
really nice he was like what we're
sitting outside the other name what was
it was there was a black woman who woke
us and she was like how do you do or
something I know something weird and
she's like I see you I can see you as
well what do you say very bizarre
conversation we're having you know I was
explaining that Larry this is like yes
the language language language and I
didn't even realize it until it's sort
of like going just being forced to speak
the language that you understand I was
like oh wait this is fluently Ebonics
and I see you and well okay doesn't
really mix that exact it made absolutely
no sense yeah and it's exactly how I
speak to my whenever I'm on the phone
FaceTime with my cousins I speak fluent
Ebonics yeah I did do completely yeah I
mean you talk complete nonsense yeah but
you speak in this language of like I'm
just I I that's why I sort of wonder
around the house doing other things were
doing because I had no idea what no idea
what her and her cousin are talking
about actually that's that's really
funny actually
what has support we've already talked
about cold okay what a surprise you most
cults culturally about the American
culture
yeah I know what it is you were most
surprised by how long the CVS receipts
were shocked shocked I thought I didn't
even know there was a thing I mean I
remember exactly the first I remember
the first time I got a CVS receipt
it was remarkable we were in Richmond
Virginia and it was the morning of the
Richmond Black Sea rally and we had to
pop out to get some clarity no it's
usually one item yeah it was one item we
had to go and get which is remarkable
and we go to a CVS store and and we walk
ahead
I don't know when I say how have the
environmentalists not picked this is
like a it's it's taller than me
yeah it's taller than me for one item
yeah incredible so for the people that
live overseas we have our pharmacy which
is I guess equivalent fear in the UK to
boots and for whatever reason they just
started turning out these receipts where
you buy one item and you get a receipt
and I'm not kidding
it'll be six 6 feet tall we took a
picture of me it was taller than you are
you I'm 6 4 to 6 foot 2 so it was taller
than him and he just could not I need
for the entire day I was just like I
don't understand what is this lucky so
risky I know I mean that's just one of
the thing I mean look I look you know
that I love America and I think America
is an incredible country and I love it I
love everything about it I love the
brashness I love the I love the American
life I love the American Way culturally
there are there are differences between
the two countries I mean one thing which
I actually find very entertaining as as
a Brit in America is how much you guys
love the Brits and that that's a
cultural thing which you guys every
American I walk up and be like look at
good evening I'm I nobody got a table
for for two people but if you did it's
sort of 7 to 8 tell you that we W
fantastic thanks very much and suddenly
it's restaurants will clear the menus
and they'll be suddenly go hey yeah yeah
we you know absolutely well I thought
you were fully booked no no we've got
space for you absolutely don't worry
come on in like anything as I love how
much you love the British I mean yeah
it's it is a it's part of that symbiosis
between our two nations it's just a
faded memory where it's like we just got
that sounds right sounds nice that way
it should be said yes sir
it's supposed to be said it's part of it
I mean I I'm also gonna say that I I
love I love like chick-fil-a was amazing
but that's the thing I love I love your
culture of I mean I'm a foodie we both
are right I love that and I know we can
sit down and have a great meal together
and be like I mean I'm gonna make a
complete hard sell here but that the
burger at the Trump Hotel in Washington
is unlike anybody I've ever heard before
my life and I just love the feather it
is it's perfected to an art and I think
comparable you know actually this is
funny because we're talking like this
the other day the Japanese have
perfected the tea ceremony you know this
is this is a huge part of their culture
and I was mentioned to the other day
that there was a former japanese prime
minister who stood down decades ago to
perfect the tea ceremony he went into a
retirement it's a perfect the tea sir I
sort of think America has done the same
thing with the with the hamburger yeah
okay you guys were like we're going
we're gonna get this absolutely right
and you can go pretty much anywhere and
just have the most incredible bother and
I will say I never order a hamburger
when I'm overseas you it does and you
guys get breakfast wrong too like
American breakfast definitely the best
oh hang on a second
I think the English breakfast you are
absent is amiss baked beans in America
yeah I'm not a bean person you know that
yeah but me see beans it's just a weird
texture
you don't usually like weird textures so
I'm surprised that you're into the bean
thing no beans are great mushrooms are
horrible the beans are great means you
haven't mix up but we have time to come
correct yes how do you say happy amidst
all of the hate that you receive we
genuinely think that the comments that
people write are just hilarious yeah I
mean I like will do readings like
Shakespearean readings of the comments
the hateful comments that we receive I
will say I will say this that a few
years ago I've told you this before when
a friend of mine my closest friend in
fact was featured in the Daily Mail over
here and it was the really the first
ever exposure I had had or he'd had and
we'd collectively had to them to the
media and we sat down afterwards we read
the comments under the Daily Mail on yes
and I laughed and he and I had I've
still numbered at this day we had it we
were crying with laughter whilst we sat
on a sofa reading these comments when we
did it for three hours
I've since that moment onwards and I
think you you you obviously perfected
this art as well you have to take you
have to just read them at face value
they are hilarious well and just and
just also understand that someone was
deathly serious when they wrote it
yes it's like they were like this is it
I'm gonna break this I know like your
life is great I'm sure you live in like
a small village in the south west of
Italy or like you know where like Spain
or where like Arkansas it doesn't matter
like you know like you're not gonna
affect my life but they really think
they can like they just write it enough
and viciously and then suddenly I'm
gonna collapse and I'm like no we're we
think it's funny and I also think it's
hilarious because then occasionally when
I read these comments and we were having
a good laugh about them you then go on
to the profile of the person who's
written and it's like following 758
people followed by eight you know this
person's life is that important that
eight people consider them to be the the
totem pole by which they will judge
their entire life you know and it's just
who are these people yeah I read this
question is like why how do how do you
stay happy and miss losers I mean I
think of them as losers and I I laugh at
the comments that they write and that's
that we haven't we have a very good
sense of humor though so I mean
sometimes I think I think I think one of
them the key ones is and this is this
will be a revelation to those for those
of you who are out there who write this
on these comments but I think the main
one is that grifters got a great just
got a great yes no matter what it's got
a grant it doesn't matter who underneath
every single person I've ever read of
yours online it's always like kind of
science the grifter it's like I didn't
even know what that wasn't me I know we
it took us so long to work to look it up
because we just like the way it sounded
I mean there's gotta grass you you've
got obviously degree in cryptology right
and I think you know you're the
professor of grifting at the University
of grift and you know you like the
presidency of Griff 20 yours the rest of
you I have no idea what grifting is but
you've grown it what is okay what is
something you do not necessarily agree
with but respect about each other number
less
well the the big disagreement as you
know that we've had in our relationship
how we're doing this well we can go
there if you want a big disagreement
we've had is whether or not gorillas
have salt have eternal soul okay and I
think this is this is I'm glad to invite
the world and here we can we can Oh
clearly gorillas have souls
okay gorillas do not have she doesn't
think real substance and I'm just I'm
pretty convinced that gorillas have
souls I don't know they look exactly
like human beings you see the videos
online of them like scrolling through
Facebook and Instagram now it's like how
can you look at that creature gorilla
and that recognize sorry sir has a soul
cause I assess this from a theological
basis and I would say that if you if you
impart a soul on to a gorilla you have
to impart so on to all animals and I
would say that no I say humans are
different from the rest of them but
they're not gorillas so you see in my in
your world I've defined it by an
absolute I say that humans have souls
animals don't right and you could say
you could say we are animals but we are
different from every other animal which
is true we are because no other animal
has created what humanity has created
but I would say that your your your your
goal is a chance yeah your definition is
there's a gray area between the animal
kingdom so you in the in the Venn
diagram of of life where humans are one
circle and animals of the other circle
right you've got this overlap where
gorillas sit yeah but Brock as Robin
Williams was friends with gorillas I
wash all I know so when they sold the
gorillas that man event that he died the
gorilla cried it's like how can you say
krzepice all we're gonna move on from it
because it's a it's it's a contentious
issue I respect your opinion but I
disagree okay what have you learned from
each other Wow
yeah grifters got a grift what do I
learn from you I would I would have said
what I sucked but earlier I learned a
lot about punting and I'm scum kind of
really into it now oh yeah I would say
well there's to this Tara's I mean I
think at a relationship level you learn
you learn a lot about each other and you
learn I mean relationships and getting
married to someone is all about you know
it's about patience it's about growing
it's about giving and taking it's about
it's about our relationship you know and
that's that's something that you develop
with everybody you know you you have to
learn about the other person learn what
makes them work learn I like I learned
how you work the whole time and you know
we spend pretty much every day together
so it's you know I learn a lot about you
that way and it's unique to you and I'm
you know that's what I've learned about
you since we've been together from a
philosophical intellectual perspective
what have I learnt from you huge amount
I mean the the whole way American
politics works it has been elaborated by
you to me and you know what have I
learned I mean we've we've had some
great political arguments the two of us
and I think I mean like I remember being
yeah there's 70 videos on YouTube can't
ascertain crushes you know like leftists
past interviewer um and I've definitely
felt once or twice that you've crushed
me an intellectual debate and I'm pretty
sure there's a couple times I've crushed
you as well as sermons you know I think
from that perspective I mean like we
love debating like do you remember there
was an argument was conversation about
facts versus truth okay and that was
like wolf I I spent the rest the day
recovering after you after you
demolished to me at lunch once about
fact versus truth and I mean that that's
something that I love I mean it's one of
the many things I love about you yes we
challenge each other yeah we do we
really we really challenge each other
yeah right um are you a Christian I am
yep you know this yeah I mean I I know I
know but people that are watching this
don't know yeah I'm a Christian yeah
okay um who says sorry first me you
think it's you
I think we both apologize I think we're
actually both really good about
apologizing and just like owning up to
it and moving on from it
it's actually part I would say this is
something that my dad always taught me
and I think it's I think it's hugely
important he always said to me from a
relationship perspective he said don't
women are always right
no he didn't say that but basically said
that no baby he said he said never argue
on a Friday night right because
everyone's tired at the end of the week
and you're just exhausted
and I always thought yeah that's really
good advice actually and then he always
said and make sure that if you haven't
said sorry buy it by an hour afterwards
go and say sorry and I think that's
completely true I think you and I both
do that together yeah you know the times
we have had calm I mean we don't really
we don't really argue a lot the one we
do when we have bickered in the past we
both tend because we're both kind of
quite intellectually proud I think in
some ways you're better to kind of puff
ourselves up and be like I'm absolutely
right to pop this out
how can she or he to complete disagree
with me and then and then within half an
hour and we're like okay yeah I'm sorry
yeah exactly I agree with that ice or no
ice in water no I know I stopped putting
the ice in the water please yeah it's it
gives you a very American thing it is
yeah like what is with that I mean like
it's not a question I just think I just
water
I know water's fine the water's great
yeah nice cup water like I didn't go to
the polar icecaps to drink I just can't
drink it it's a little cold yeah this is
a great one what is your favorite book
oh oh what a great question I know yours
you have one okay tell me it's in rent
yeah it definitely I have to admit I
would say that I know this is a lot of
people hit in future life people don't
like how he's around Ian and I would
just say that Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
no matter what you think of an randon
and I think that she
she has a huge influence on politics
both left and right no matter what you
think of Enron now at your life and I
would say that this is something that
American politicians have also said and
British politicians have also said I
think for a lot of people when they're
in that kind of late teenage year early
you know sort of early 20s if you read
Ayn Rand she offers a perspective on
life which it's just such a mind it's
such a such a mind shaping event to read
Atlas Shrugged and that's what I did I
mean it was when I read Atlas Shrugged
it was just like one of those things
where you like wow this is an incredible
book and I mean it is just one of those
things is it complete it's a it's a
magnum opus you've got to sit down for
like a week and read it but it is one of
those things where when you get out the
other side you feel so much deeper
because of it you you've really had to
process everything that she's writing in
that book and when I read it when I was
I read it when I was 19 years old and I
think for years you go through the
school system and if you're conservative
bent which I was from from from from
sort of you know quite a young it was
not a young age I think my formative
years I developed a theory of my own
kind of conservatism but if you've if
you've struggled to have the
philosophical justification for why to
you support free markets you read a Rand
and you come out the other at the other
side with the gospel you know and and
that's kind of where I ended up and it
was just incredible I mean it's just it
is just an incredible book I mean the
speech by John Gould I learnt so much
more because in case people haven't read
and want to go may want to go and read
it but the speech by John Galt is just
an incredible piece of literature
it's an incredible political philosophy
it's an incredible economic Testament it
is just an amazing piece of work and I
would say that you know it's one of
those things where you will be a more
interesting person for having read it I
feel like I can't say Harry Potter now
so I will say for the same reasons and
even though I read it very recently it
really sort of just sharpened my
political beliefs so that the same
reasons I would say really any time is
so booked but race in economics is just
one of those ones where he just cuts
through the red tape of every single
race argument and just literally racing
intellectuals you're correct yeah race
he has he also has recent economics but
recent intellectuals and he just
basically lets you note the dumbest
people in the world are the people that
are at the head of universities and and
and he just goes back and he traces
throughout history how they've just
actually always been wrong so it's
amazing that they think that they have
the moral high ground or the
intellectual high ground when they have
just actually never been right since the
beginning of time and being able to have
those arguments in your pocket when
you're debating somebody on the left or
when somebody tries to throw their what
you would degree or where they went to
school and it's basically like and I
make the joke but I'm being serious
the reason I'm so smart is because I
dropped out of college right and that
you couldn't capture me the people that
go on to have 16,000 different degrees
tend to know absolutely nothing about
the way the world works it's so
important for black Americans but I
think also for all Americans and and
anybody that's you know being thrust
into this race debate all over the world
read race and intellectuals and you will
know that it is it is that the arguments
they're making in terms of race have
never held up the arguments they're
making in terms of being a minority
I don't even hold up I mean the idea
that being a minority somehow
disadvantages you something that time is
sold just destroys and I think in the
first chapter he shows you how
minorities actually traditionally in the
past I've been at the head of societies
the Ottoman empires it wasn't the Turks
that are running all up the banks it was
the Greeks and they were the minority so
it's it's just it gives you kind of you
know you can walk the walk you can talk
a talk but he allows you to then walk
the walk when you say I'm a conservative
and I don't care about your social
justice arguments this is what's why
this is the way the world works and you
feel better for it so that would be my
pick and the last question is what are
you guys doing to prepare for marriage
um we're doing a match for of course
we're doing a marriage pop course which
I thought was interesting and then while
planning the wedding
yeah no planning the wedding isn't
preparing for marriage though that's
preparing for a party which has been
unbelievably easy but I was
people always say that if you really
want to know if you should be with
someone travel with them we have
traveled together pretty much every day
for the last six months and yeah I mean
it's been great
yeah it's really how you learned that
you're really compatible with somebody
is go travel with that maybe you can get
through it we really have been through
some things together on their own the
road home way we definitely have it'll
test you being tired living out of a
suitcase this sort of lifestyle really
tests you and takes you towards sort of
no having eaten for 18 yeah exactly
being starving if you don't kill each
other then it's sort of like surviving
an episode everybody is actually wrong I
mean I wasn't going about this but he is
remarkable how how like little we have
we have been at each other given the
stress situations that we've been in is
amazing like I like even even at them
even at peak stress yeah like me being
accused of a mosque shooting well yeah I
mean but but even well that was it's
like a political stress level and that
was just a different that was a
different week but I mean like the
travel I mean that's not the whole
situation in Dallas when we were trying
to get out of Dallas when the hurricane
blew through plane and we had to deep
board the plane I mean it was just grim
right the whole thing was grim but but
even even then like I think our patience
was tested once on that between each
other on that day I mean it was like one
that I think in anyone else's wealth it
would have been like ah like a whole
argument you know it's just would have
been grim but and yet remarkably calm
between the two of us and I think we've
really put a relationship through the
through the crucible
you know before before we even married
but we have a lot of similarities I
think that what we know is that one of
us is probably getting more frustrated
with the situation and the other one so
I'll always concede and be like he's
more frustrated so I'm gonna be calm and
then like when I'm at my mo where I'm
just like ah you'll you'll be more
conscious like I know what just take
things the anger would you like some
water right what are you most excited
about for marriage that is my final
question and that came for me um well
I'm I'm not gonna lie that children I
think will be very exciting for the two
of us yeah we're totally ready we're at
that phase were every time we see a
child we're just you just want it I
think
I'm excited for the family with you I'm
excited
the sounds totally cringe but I'm
excited to spend the rest of my life
with you and I can't wait I genuinely
can't wait I mean we have we are you're
my best friend
we have the best times together and I
think that we're gonna have super we're
gonna have a lot of fun together darling
I mean it's gonna be a lot of fun I
think for me it's probably I'm just
excited that the anxiety of my life is
over
like the and I always say that people
always try to glorify the twenty it's
like yeah your new 20s your freedom it's
fun it's not fun I mean you don't know
what you're gonna do in terms of your
career you don't know who you're gonna
marry you don't know if you're gonna
marry a good person and there's just so
much societal pressure to sort of figure
everything out so I just think of my 20s
as one massive dose of anxiety and now
since I since I just turned 30 and I
know who I'm marrying I know the person
that you are or the character that you
have I know how our children are gonna
be raised which is conservatively where
they can get the hell out of the house
right and that there I I think I'm most
excited just for the the confidence the
confidence that it's going to instill
for the rest of my life because I have
you I have a partner now so what the
world really thinks doesn't really
matter you know and usually we end the
episode with a two-minute note at the
camera but we're not going to do that
because we can't both speak to the
camera so you'll wrap it up I will say
this we are on a journey to find one
person in life who you can spend the
rest of your life with and I'm lucky
that I have you and I have candor
service to share every day for the rest
of my life with and I'm lucky that I
have that recording to play back to you
every single time you get upset with me
and the rest of this journey that's
right there we go
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