Ibarra goes to the seaside where he had agreed to meet with

Elias. Elias tells him of the purpose of the meeting -- to address the concerns and

needs of those who are hunted and persecuted.

Elias pointed out that the government makes people against to their rules because

of their abusive way of treatment with the Filipinos but ibarra said that the

government has flaws and he said that we must follow their rules ,by their system

no matter what. Elias also addressed those who have position in church are also

abusing filipino especially women and those who have been persecuted has no

really crime that they have done. As the conversation continues Ibarra asked Elias

of other problems that the Filipinos are facing so that he can addressed it to his

influential friends in Madrid. Ibarra continues, he said that have Filipinos forgot the

things that the government has done to all of us and the debt we owe them. Elias

replied to Ibarra, he said that Ibarra has never experience the persecution that’s

why Ibarra can easily say those statement.

Ibarra sees Elías’s frustration, acknowledging his friend’s “suffering” and utter

discontent. Elías says that his misgivings about the country arise out of his personal

experiences. “Perhaps knowing them will change my thoughts,” Ibarra says,

encouraging his friend to tell him his life story in order to better express the origins

of his views.

These two characters have different perspective in terms of

reforming the Philippines. Elias is a revolutionarist man who seek freedom with the

use of violence. He told Ibarra everything what is going on in the Philippines in the

hands of the Spaniards. He try to convince Ibarra to join him but Ibarra is not that
kind of guy. Ibarra is a bit on a process in terms of doing things. He wants to solve

things in a nice and clean way rather than bringing bloodshed which is opposite of

Elias. Elias is aggressive and he will fight for his country even if it means violence

while Ibarra is in the process of making things right and bringing up the problems

first in the superior.

Upon reading this chapter, I think Rizal used the Socratic Method,

Dialectics. As I observed the two contrasting characters have their own different

points of view on their subject of discussion. Elias told many things to justify his

side same as true with Ibarra. They contradict each other establishing truths on

both sides, disproving each other sides but in the end they respect the opinions and

view that they have been discussed, just like Ibarra acknowledged Elias point of

view. Those opinions, both of them learned from it and there is no winner and loser

from their discourse.