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Mystery of 8th House in Astrology Part 1 : Understanding

Transformation, obstacles and longevity

Vedic Siddhanta

Mar 22, 2017·13 min read

What is 8th House about ?

Transformation is a process, and as life happens there are tons of

ups and downs. It’s a journey of discovery — there are moments
on mountaintops and moments in deep valleys of despair.

- Rick Warren

Without Understanding the essence of transformation, pain and suffering

we cannot grow our-self into a deep state of higher realisation. Now
question is what actually is transformation and how it is deeply linked with
the 8th house matters.Logically 8th house is a mystic house of
understanding higher Spiritual transformation and realisation that comes
through after realising the pain of sufferings, being one of the house of
moksha trikona sthan, it gives opportunity for purification of jeeva as well as
Shareer mukti to rise above at higher level, at the level of Higher knowledge
(Para vidya) and wisdom. It has connection of Secretiveness and hidden
agendas that one has to live with them to understand life from micro angles,
gives a fire or depth for understanding deep hidden knowledge that we need
to dig deeper via keep exploring it till the end of life cycle(Cosmic cycle).

It is the main house that deals with all sort of occult sciences those are
practical in nature where one has to put Fire, Tapa, energy in it to
understand them, its a seed house where energy start flowing or
proceeding from lower spine to the higher point, required for Tantra
practises with going deep inside to know hidden essence of the world
that is unknown from us- the world of spiritual reality, the world of
Hidden vidyas. It give us picture of true reality of the hidden world,
where spiritualism starts and leads to the end of spirit world. Those
let us understand how to live in true reality and generates urges for
living away from the gossips of mundane world.But that urge only
comes after realising the deeper pain and reality of life via Death of
ego, over Pride, shareer and after leaving mundane desires.
In Higher Sense, It gives Death of higher ego (what is bright ,
acceptable and appreciable in society is in mundane world
seen and perceived has higher ego ruled by Aries and
Scorpio, Being the house of transformations after life
hurdles and obstacles act as house of darkness and
transformations where sunlight always reaches late).

Being the house of Mundane transformations, ups and downs this

house is closely linked with the past birth pending karmic debts that
we must have to exhaust in any case, it is mainly deals with the
unfinished karmic debts those are done in unconsciously adharmic or
mistaken State “Avastha” when conscious is not in awake phase in
earlier births.
Deeper Astrological Definition of 8th house

8th house is being a vast house of spirituality, Death and

transformations is hard to decode in few words. It need lots of
understanding in straight way language. It is something hidden that
only we can experience and then we can able to know about it and
what world is perceived is beyond of this knowledge, what they are
seeing its only the mundane transformation but in actual reality it is a
house of what is hidden in destiny that we need to explore from
hidden or buried form under the ground.

Being the karka house of Scorpio It has deep mystery connected with
all the characteristics those have resemblance with the nature of
Scorpio i.e death, transformations, Accidents, Bankruptcy, Excretory
organs, External Sexual organs, Inheritance, Litigation, occult, Plots,
Poison, theft, Agonies, Anger, annihilation, Assassination, breaking of
friendships, cancer, crossing large bodies of water, dangerous and
fruitless journeys, deep psychotherapy, deep and wild forests defeat,
Disputes, enemy fort, fall from height, fear, making
loans, (Dishonourable profession), a hole, cavity, imprisonment,
insults, long lasting diseases, Longevity, Long or disputed properties,
Mental Distress, Monetary loss, partner’s money, punishment from
authorities, receiving charities, Religious property, research, robbery,
scandal money, trouble to spouse, unchastity, witchcraft, black-magic
and all of them leads to higher learning and sufferings but its deep
essence lies in understanding the deeper transformations appears in
9th house of wisdom after deeper pain, sufferings and higher
realisation.

Difference between 8th house and rest of trik bhavas is that it

indicates something very long pending, either it is about diseases or it
is linked debt of the past. It gives understanding of chronic nature in
every sense either it is about diseases or about realising the pain, but
thing is 6th gives idea of an acute diseases, 8th gives understanding of
deep chronic diseases.It can gives Legal difficulties that can destroy
anyone life via long term financial crisis, humiliation, scandal or
bankruptcy.

Being the house of witchcraft work and Black magic being ruled by the
sign of Scorpio (characteristics comes form the Jyestha
Nakashtra reside in sign of Scorpio, linked with
disturbance in Pran Vayu that flows in the human body), it
has same level of influence on native mind too where moon get
debilitated (in the sign of Scorpio, 8th house). Same is
connected with its stingy nature that comes from the animal ruled by
it, “The Scorpion” bite usually gives neurological shock that is
unbearable for any being and the same way Witchcraft work in 8th
first effects mind of the native in a much deeper level that is hard for
anyone i.e Vashikaran that primarily purpose is to control the mind
of person, loosing the strength of the mind or imbalance of the Vayu
in the body.
But another side story is why we are getting suffering via Black magic
and Witchcraft work in 8th house, reason is only one — the level of
suffering we have given to other, same way we have to face in same
intensity — somewhat a debt or curse like situation, long pending
from many early births.

8th being fallen in 12th from the 9th house (Past birth — shows
what is left behind that you have to face in any case or
finish or exhaust it). That Pain or suffering we incur by past debts
or left behind karama helps us moving into achieving greater
liberation or moksha after a death like situation.

We can never experience wisdom and higher philosophy unless and

until we may never go through from it. Every Death and Suffering has
some higher learning, purpose and teaching of almighty that is kept
hidden for society benefits (10th).

Unless and until we never realised that deeper sufferings and

transformations connected with the 8th house we can never become a
filtered soul who can understand the higher wisdom and philosophy
of life that is seen from the 9th house. That’s the reason it is falling in
12th from 9th house, first we need to filter out our left over debts then
we can become pious and pure soul who can connect with the true
brahma tatva.

In Layman language, 8th house covers primarily transformations of

mundane worlds, i.e obstacles seen with respect to 7th (Marriages
and partnerships — being falling in 2nd house from 7th
house responsible for feeding the marriage, the need or
requirement for marriage — The sustain-er house, if 8th is
having influence of beneficial planet, it will sustain the
partnerships and joint finances required for growing in
mundane world but if malefic’s planets are present in 8th
it will block or end the partnership with much suffering,
realisation and pain).

It gives Direct challenges in personal and joint financial life, 8th being
in 7th from 2nd house (the food of Business).

Malefic’s Being fallen in 8th (Sufferings to the body and

intelligence ) from Lagana it affects the longevity of the native and
legacy, being a house of 8th and 2nd from 7th, 5th from 4th —
inheritance is seen from the 8th house.

Most important it is seen for long lasting chronic health issues

pending due to unknown causes but in actual reality true real sense
and acute health issues seen from the the 6th house.

Being fallen in 11th from 10th house it gives breaks in career and at
the same time shows new beginning or new journey of the career of
native as seen from the 8th house. being a house of secret unknown
hidden truth it could give unknown destiny to the native and can
totally changes the path of career of native.

One must be aware in the dasha of the 8th house Planet/lord

Antardasha period for any sudden change in the career path.
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Spiritual and Astrological Significance of 8th House

In General, The Eighth House is known for the house of “ Deeper
Life Transformations, unknown and hidden Obstacles &
Longevity related issues those can falls in after Marriage
and in personal life”.

8th being a house of the moksha trikona house indicates a house of

higher awakening, spiritual learning and self realisation for
purification of the inner self and soul. If 8th house is well disposed
and beneficially placed and is strong it usually indicates healthy mind,
body and soul and one can easily overcome life challenges that comes
in life, and related to longevity.

If 8th house is malefically disposed or afflicted by strong malefic

planets than it can shows karmic backlogs of past births with intent of
having deep grudges and revengeful behavior. One must not stick to
these deep hidden revengeful thoughts if the soul is wanted to
transform in true reality of higher conscious. Being Karka of
something hidden, deep and secretive in nature as what we learns
form scorpio signs , it shows hidden activity related to 8th house , as it
falls in 2nd from 7th (Marriage partnerships) it shows hidden
sexual activities, depending on the nature of sign, planets and
state (Beneficial and malefic) it shows the sexual orientation in
marriage or in relationships. If it is beneficial native might has soft
orientation wrt to Sexuality but same time it is having malefic planets
native might have rough and wild sexual orientation wrt to Sexual
acts.

Meanwhile these sexual deviancy also helps in rising of one’s

kundalini shakti after realising the true essence of Yogi.In Sexual
tantras this house has major role for understanding or transforming
into yog Marg.

At the same time if 7th house shows what you are seeking in close
relationships between partnerships — love (Moon in
7th), Romance or libido (Venus in 7th) , 8th house shows how
you manage your sexuality and how sexually you are and what sort of
sexual act you follows in bonding.

Malefic can shows imbalance in sexual orientation and beneficial

shows native of highest order of spiritual moral and follow the same
path. People of highest order of spiritual path usually follows strong
penance or Tapa Yoga by controlling their sexual energy into highest
order of spirituality, that’s why it leads to Moksha and falls under
Moksha trikona sthan — being falling in 5th from 4th (Skills
required in Moksha or bhakti marg).

For siddha purushas this is the house of Kundali Awakening to reach

into highest order of Subconscious mind and its stability and how you
went through it — balance it or suffering via it which can results to
psychological issues , everything depends on the strength of the 8th
house and its lord in d1 and d60 chart. that’s the reason those having
strong 8th house have deep hidden talents wrt to occult sciences and
blessed with highest order of deep intuitions and psychic abilities.

People falls in these types of categories are well versed in seeing

futures those related with deaths and mysteries, can see futuristic
dreams those related with Something bad future events or related to
destructive points wrt to personal relations or might be related to
mundane worlds too.

In many of cases people develops deep interest in decoding deep and

hidden meanings of interpreting weird and hidden dreams signals. it
has been seen many people have abilities to speaks with dead souls
too.

Being a house of legacy, it is also shows of corruptions, scandals and

negative traits regarding unethical monetary gains via lottery and
scandalous money. Being the house of deep secrets and root of
Kundalini, it shows hidden mysteries and energy level of Mool dhara
chakra we have in our body and any imbalance in 8th house energy
can leads to imbalanced root chakra and disturbed Mental and
financial life.

Longevity and 8th house ( verses from rest of the Classics

and Bphs) :
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Sage Parashara in BPHS has clearly said that the Balarishta and rest
of longevity matters should be seen from 8th house, as this house is
primarily seen for the longevity matters. Whereas 8th lord shows the
over longevity of the native. Placement of 8th lord in Kendras or
Trikonas bhavas shows Long life and in trik bhavas or with affliction
from nodes shows issues of health and long life.

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 Same way there has been A quote in “Sarvartha Chintamani” by
“Vyankatesha Sharma Translated by J.N Bhasin” which states
that :

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“If the 10th lord is placed in friendly sign, own sign, exaltation signs, it
confers long life.Similarly the location of the lords of the 10th, 1st and
8th house lords in Kendra Bhavas ensures long life.”

Reason is why 1st, 8th and 10th are so much important in

understanding longevity Because 3rd from these houses shows what is
necessary to perform the duties required by that house. 3rd from
Lagna shows Skills required to survive, 3rd from 8th shows Karama
( good and bad karma in society — 10th house) required to ensure
longevity and 3rd from 10th shows Moksha, peaceful sleep (12th)

(By Visti Larsen Jyotisha fundamentals)

Regarding placement of 8th lord

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8th and 1st lord

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Regarding Natural Malefic in 6th, 7th and 8th House

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Regarding 8th lord in 1st House

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Quote from Jataka Parijata on 8th lord

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Same way Shastras has revealed about 7 types of Longevity

for any loka :

0–8

Balarishta

9-20

Yogarishta

21–32

Alpa

33–64
 Madhya

65–120

Dirgha

121–1000

Divya

Infinity

Amita

Below are the translations of 8th house as explained by

Sage:

Quotes from BPHS Regarding Longevity :

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“ O excellent of the Brahmins, listen to me speak on the effects of 8th

House. If 8ths Lord is in an angle, long life is indicated.”

“Meaning : It 8th lord is well placed in Kendras ( 1, 4, 7th and 10th
house it indicates long life) (Corrected)

Regarding Short Life :

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“ Should 8ths Lord join Lagnas Lord, or a malefic and be in 8th itself, the
native will be short lived.”

Meaning : If 8th lord is connected with Lagnesh or any malefic and
all are placed in 8th house then it is a yoga for short life. for e.g Leo
Lagana — lagnesh sun (1st) is with Jupiter (8th) and Rahu (7th lord-
Markesh) in 8th house that shows short life of the native.

Saturn and 10ths Lord about Longevity :

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“ Similarly consider Saturn and 10ths Lord in the matter of longevity.

10ths Lord is in 8th along with a malefic Planet and/or Lagnas Lord.

Regarding Long Life :

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“ There will be long life, if 6ths Lord is in 12th, or, if 6ths Lord is in 6th,
as 12ths Lord is in 12th, or, if 6ths Lord and 12ths Lord are in Lagna and
8th. If the Lords of 5th, 8th and 1st House are in own Navāmśaas, own
Rāśis, or in friendly Rāśis, the native will enjoy a long span of life.
Should the Lords of Lagna, 8th and 10th House and Saturn are all
disposed severally in an angle, in a trine, or in 11th House, the subject
will live long. Like these, there are many other Yogas, dealing with the
issue of longevity. The strength and weakness of the Planets concerned
be estimated in deciding longevity.”

Regarding Short Life :

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“ Ones span of life will be between 20 and 32 years, if Lagnas Lord is

weak, while 8ths Lord is an angle. The native will only be short-lived, if
8ths Lord is in fall, while 8th House has a malefic in it and 1st House is
bereft of strength. Death will be instant at birth, if 8th House, 8ths Lord
and 12th House are all conjunct malefics. Malefics in angles and/or
trines and benefics in 6th and/or 8th House, while 1st House has in it
8ths Lord in fall: this Yoga will cause immediate end. If 5th and 8th
House and 8ths Lord are all conjunct malefics, the life span will be very
brief. Within a month of birth, death will befall the child, if 8ths Lord is
in 8th itself, while Moon is with malefics and be bereft of beneficial
Aspect.”

Regarding Long Life :

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“ One will be long-lived, if Lagnas Lord is in exaltation, while Moon and

Jupiter are, respectively, in 11th and 8th House. If Lagnas Lord is
exceedingly strong and receives a Aspect from a benefic, which is placed
in an angle, the person concerned will be wealthy, virtuous and long-
lived.”

Quotes from Phala-Deepika Regarding Planets in 8th House

Regarding 6th and 8th house

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Regarding Sun in 8th house and Death

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Regarding Rahu in 8th house and Death

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Rakesh Singh Jamwal

Source and Reference:Brihat Parashara hora shashtra

http://www.vedicsiddhanta.in/2017/03/8th-house-house-of-
transformation-death.html

 Vedic Astrology

 Jyotish

 8th House

 Sprituality

 Transformation

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