00:00:11.380 --> 00:00:15.

196
All right, uh, my name is Ashlee Jelks

00:00:15.196 --> 00:00:20.030

and I am a student at Georgia Southern.

00:00:20.030 --> 00:00:23.030

My certificate in Library

00:00:23.030 --> 00:00:24.940

media library science.

00:00:24.940 --> 00:00:28.420

I'm here with Miss Patricia O'Connor.

00:00:28.420 --> 00:00:31.031

She is a media specialist at sink

00:00:31.031 --> 00:00:33.420

in middle school in Decap County.

00:00:33.420 --> 00:00:36.899

Thank you, Mr. Connor being with me.

00:00:36.900 --> 00:00:39.174

You're welcome, I just had a

00:00:39.174 --> 00:00:41.618

few questions I want to ask you.

00:00:41.620 --> 00:00:44.855

I guess about personal in

00:00:44.855 --> 00:00:49.318

dealing with job as I meet.

00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:52.000

I'm glad he's pursued degree

00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:53.608

to become specialist.

00:00:55.980 --> 00:00:57.630

That's kind of a funny answer.

00:00:57.630 --> 00:00:59.278

Uhm, I always really,

00:00:59.278 --> 00:01:01.182

really, really love to read.

00:01:01.182 --> 00:01:03.420

Like when I was a kid.
00:01:03.420 --> 00:01:06.339
And I was an elementary school teacher,

00:01:06.340 --> 00:01:09.020

a kindergarten teacher, and Texas.

00:01:09.020 --> 00:01:10.680

I just moved to Austin,

00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.227

Texas and I got a job at one of

00:01:13.227 --> 00:01:15.463

the Independent School districts

00:01:15.463 --> 00:01:17.998

and sometimes the the jobs.

00:01:17.998 --> 00:01:20.670

They were not great in the salary was

00:01:20.744 --> 00:01:23.656

wrapping up so I remember looking around.

00:01:23.660 --> 00:01:26.515

I have a young son and so I kind of

00:01:26.515 --> 00:01:28.000

looked around the school and thought,

00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:30.898

OK, I really don't want to kindergarten.

00:01:30.900 --> 00:01:32.465

I really can't count lunch

00:01:32.465 --> 00:01:34.030

money to save my life.

00:01:34.030 --> 00:01:35.254

I couldn't that they'd had to

00:01:35.254 --> 00:01:36.728

come in and do it every day.

00:01:36.730 --> 00:01:37.927

They didn't even let me do it.

00:01:37.930 --> 00:01:40.396

She's looking at all you know.

00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:41.716

So that's what I want to do.
00:01:41.720 --> 00:01:44.480
OK, I do like reading stories to kids.

00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:48.912

OK, so I thought Kip library and I

00:01:48.912 --> 00:01:51.726

like books and 'cause I was still

00:01:51.726 --> 00:01:54.146

with summers off but instead.

00:01:54.150 --> 00:01:57.006

Oh, so you were telling us in Austin,

00:01:57.010 --> 00:01:59.770

TX and you never see Texas A and

00:01:59.770 --> 00:02:01.990

Boston had a library program.

00:02:01.990 --> 00:02:03.150

It's not what I finished.

00:02:03.150 --> 00:02:04.428

By the way, I finish university.

00:02:04.430 --> 00:02:05.830

Pittsburgh was moved again,

00:02:05.830 --> 00:02:08.960

but I'm I started at University, Texas.

00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:11.775

Austin changed us completely.

00:02:11.775 --> 00:02:14.155

I was no longer.

00:02:14.160 --> 00:02:15.312

But teaching for awhile,

00:02:15.312 --> 00:02:16.764

well, it's going slow,

00:02:16.764 --> 00:02:20.079

so that's how I how I decided to do.

00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.296

But you know, it's good choice.

00:02:23.300 --> 00:02:24.450

And what was that like?
00:02:24.450 --> 00:02:26.940
What was your experience like?

00:02:26.940 --> 00:02:29.916

Schools so were they saying with a gift,

00:02:29.920 --> 00:02:31.075

which one did you like the movie?

00:02:33.320 --> 00:02:37.604

Well, this makes things like with different

00:02:37.604 --> 00:02:42.092

schools or with any animal in your family

00:02:42.092 --> 00:02:47.860

like at the University of Texas, Austin.

00:02:47.860 --> 00:02:50.316

'cause yeah, we were breaking up a little

00:02:50.316 --> 00:02:54.900

bit from my experiences. Sure CTXS yeah.

00:02:54.900 --> 00:02:59.949

So like get for senior degree, how was that?

00:02:59.950 --> 00:03:01.886

It's really cool, and I mean I started

00:03:01.886 --> 00:03:03.942

to enter received taxes and and, uh,

00:03:03.942 --> 00:03:05.526

I mean they have something like,

00:03:05.530 --> 00:03:09.310

really it's highly esteemed.

00:03:09.310 --> 00:03:13.114

Professors come there receive Texas.

00:03:13.114 --> 00:03:15.524

Austin is beautiful campus actually

00:03:15.524 --> 00:03:17.591

and actually Pretty Little

00:03:17.591 --> 00:03:20.226

costs back in those states.

00:03:20.230 --> 00:03:22.886

So they got stuck like three classes there
00:03:22.886 --> 00:03:25.710
before I got pregnant with my second son.

00:03:25.710 --> 00:03:29.432

And so I had to drop it out and then then

00:03:29.432 --> 00:03:32.904

removed OK so we moved to Pittsburgh,

00:03:32.910 --> 00:03:33.284

Pittsburgh,

00:03:33.284 --> 00:03:34.780

Camdenton Library school students.

00:03:34.780 --> 00:03:36.256

So I applied and got that.

00:03:36.260 --> 00:03:37.715

Got, you know,

00:03:37.715 --> 00:03:43.500

a place and there's so many universities.

00:03:43.500 --> 00:03:44.829

University of Texas.

00:03:44.829 --> 00:03:48.850

Because it was like so much more expensive.

00:03:48.850 --> 00:03:50.746

It is not only private school,

00:03:50.750 --> 00:03:52.310

it's sort of a combination

00:03:52.310 --> 00:03:53.870

or not telling postal code.

00:03:53.870 --> 00:03:55.550

Sort of a company should have

00:03:55.550 --> 00:03:57.162

public and private law St.

00:03:57.162 --> 00:03:58.320

Pennsylvania distance period,

00:03:58.320 --> 00:04:02.149

but Uhm, so the cost was more.

00:04:02.150 --> 00:04:03.275

I really could.
00:04:03.275 --> 00:04:04.775
Professors at the University

00:04:04.775 --> 00:04:06.270

of Pittsburgh as well,

00:04:06.270 --> 00:04:08.790

but I had to kind of get used to like

00:04:08.863 --> 00:04:11.320

not having much of a campus nursing.

00:04:11.320 --> 00:04:12.823

Texas is beautiful,

00:04:12.823 --> 00:04:14.326

sprawling, logical Kansas.

00:04:14.330 --> 00:04:18.470

University of Pittsburgh is in Oakland.

00:04:18.470 --> 00:04:20.420

Now this work plans together,

00:04:20.420 --> 00:04:22.700

and so it's not called traffic.

00:04:22.700 --> 00:04:25.745

Just add and stuff like that up.

00:04:25.750 --> 00:04:28.905

But certainly I mean the

00:04:28.905 --> 00:04:30.798

school librarian person.

00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.240

Blanche walls.

00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.914

She wasn't influence and and you know,

00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.032

she's certainly taught me a lot

00:04:38.032 --> 00:04:40.753

and taught me to be more aggressive

00:04:40.753 --> 00:04:42.813

about pursuing a job well.

00:04:42.820 --> 00:04:43.876

So this move.
00:04:43.876 --> 00:04:45.988
Because that was union not there.

00:04:45.990 --> 00:04:48.251

And you know the odds of getting

00:04:48.251 --> 00:04:51.848

a job without knowing somebody.

00:04:51.850 --> 00:04:56.370

At first, and so she helps me here.

00:04:56.370 --> 00:04:59.082

So good experience.

00:04:59.082 --> 00:05:01.585

OK, uh, Mike,

00:05:01.585 --> 00:05:05.755

how do you determine the collection

00:05:05.755 --> 00:05:07.145

in library?

00:05:07.150 --> 00:05:10.714

How do I turn it to collect my library?

00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:16.540

Like the collection needs.

00:05:16.540 --> 00:05:17.247

Colectomy,

00:05:17.247 --> 00:05:18.661

it's yes,

00:05:18.661 --> 00:05:19.368

yes.

00:05:24.150 --> 00:05:28.497

So I actually, I mean I lose it features.

00:05:28.500 --> 00:05:31.896

I listen to the kids up.

00:05:31.900 --> 00:05:34.364

You know, I'll do like Google Now

00:05:34.364 --> 00:05:36.617

did Google forms they want I did,

00:05:36.620 --> 00:05:40.930

you know, sorry. Getting lucky.
00:05:40.930 --> 00:05:45.368
Anymore so actively Google forms and dumb.

00:05:45.370 --> 00:05:48.574

Cats and how people send stuff into me up.

00:05:48.580 --> 00:05:52.549

I also feel like ask before you know my

00:05:52.550 --> 00:05:57.050

time for ordering before or something.

00:05:57.050 --> 00:06:01.000

About what did you watch, UM?

00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:02.605

I use Twitter.

00:06:02.605 --> 00:06:07.810

A lot up and you still people on Twitter.

00:06:07.810 --> 00:06:09.790

I think that great ideas,

00:06:09.790 --> 00:06:16.370

uh Martha Digiorno something like that up.

00:06:16.370 --> 00:06:19.058

It's for ask agrarians and middle

00:06:19.058 --> 00:06:22.840

school librarians right now, and.

00:06:25.370 --> 00:06:25.910

It's true.

00:06:28.400 --> 00:06:29.630

Browns as well, so I mean,

00:06:29.630 --> 00:06:31.324

it seems like all of that together.

00:06:31.330 --> 00:06:35.236

I still use some book list some

00:06:35.236 --> 00:06:38.355

OK when I first started that I've

00:06:38.355 --> 00:06:40.845

probably used book listed all the

00:06:40.845 --> 00:06:43.330

time and it's still in Logan Booklist,
00:06:43.330 --> 00:06:46.277
certainly, and I believe who won awards

00:06:46.277 --> 00:06:48.868

the award winners all locate those,

00:06:48.870 --> 00:06:52.452

but a lot of it was really driven by

00:06:52.460 --> 00:06:56.980

me because you gotta think about.

00:06:56.980 --> 00:06:58.160

I'm in an old school,

00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.488

like right when they're doing search.

00:07:00.490 --> 00:07:03.910

Honestly, they're more than likely I

00:07:03.910 --> 00:07:06.828

don't want. I don't want to go too,

00:07:06.828 --> 00:07:09.980

but maybe a bit,

00:07:09.980 --> 00:07:13.538

but they're still using online databases,

00:07:13.540 --> 00:07:17.159

more stuff for their research them box,

00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.236

so they might in that box,

00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.320

which is the focus of my collection

00:07:22.320 --> 00:07:25.889

up to a lot of reading for pleasure

00:07:25.889 --> 00:07:29.229

or being for their book reports.

00:07:29.230 --> 00:07:33.754

It's not asking much money fiction titles.

00:07:33.754 --> 00:07:40.580

Then I did one nonfiction fiction.

00:07:40.580 --> 00:07:44.080

Not now we have databases to use.
00:07:44.080 --> 00:07:50.608
I don't like or databases, but this can help.

00:07:50.610 --> 00:07:56.691

Susan Reed people listen summer.

00:07:56.691 --> 00:07:58.820

OK, wanna take care of that?

00:08:01.440 --> 00:08:02.548

Yeah, let me.

00:09:14.270 --> 00:09:16.758

OK, do you have a background in technology?

00:09:20.040 --> 00:09:22.450

Initially no, I mean breakfast.

00:09:22.450 --> 00:09:26.234

Come learn it as I wet and come.

00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:30.224

So and I did get my eds and

00:09:30.224 --> 00:09:31.220

instructional technology,

00:09:31.220 --> 00:09:33.859

which did teach me a lot up.

00:09:33.860 --> 00:09:36.345

I'm doing like a marketable

00:09:36.345 --> 00:09:38.333

science degree right now.

00:09:38.340 --> 00:09:39.687

The Clayton state.

00:09:39.687 --> 00:09:43.190

It's got a scholarship to do it up.

00:09:43.190 --> 00:09:45.800

And it's interesting because archives now

00:09:45.800 --> 00:09:50.137

or like a lot of really a lot of technology

00:09:50.137 --> 00:09:52.690

and encoding and things like that.

00:09:52.690 --> 00:09:55.818

So that looks like more technology faster.
00:09:55.818 --> 00:09:57.210
For instance, you know,

00:09:57.210 --> 00:09:58.700

for school I do electric

00:09:58.700 --> 00:10:00.190

cars like blah blah blah.

00:10:00.190 --> 00:10:01.665

But then when I started

00:10:01.665 --> 00:10:02.845

the archival science thing,

00:10:02.850 --> 00:10:05.384

it's like I realized I have a

00:10:05.384 --> 00:10:08.125

lot of gaps in my knowledge and

00:10:08.125 --> 00:10:10.420

so you know the director.

00:10:10.420 --> 00:10:13.507

I always felt like I could do it this way.

00:10:13.510 --> 00:10:14.910

This is what this means.

00:10:17.270 --> 00:10:19.766

You know, I'm really, truly and

00:10:19.766 --> 00:10:21.848

I wouldn't have expected archival

00:10:21.848 --> 00:10:24.552

science to be as tacky as it is.

00:10:24.560 --> 00:10:30.028

But it is. OK, OK. Do you have a

00:10:30.028 --> 00:10:32.880

reading program at your school?

00:10:34.940 --> 00:10:38.010

Yeah, I'm never talking about

00:10:38.010 --> 00:10:42.029

like books or yeah any AB yeah

00:10:42.030 --> 00:10:45.477

yeah yeah yes we do have a bug up,
00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:46.974
you know have more in the

00:10:46.974 --> 00:10:48.680

past and I do right now.

00:10:48.680 --> 00:10:50.110

I mean we're still kind

00:10:50.110 --> 00:10:51.540

of feeling my way through.

00:10:51.540 --> 00:10:54.796

How many kids do it with like in

00:10:54.796 --> 00:10:58.088

keeping the business that start up we

00:10:58.088 --> 00:11:00.823

will have a renewal OK and actually

00:11:00.823 --> 00:11:03.800

I have somebody else I'm helping

00:11:03.800 --> 00:11:06.625

but there there having others.

00:11:06.630 --> 00:11:14.210

Uhm, I had a project lift up,

00:11:14.210 --> 00:11:17.930

so just 'cause I got dollars

00:11:17.930 --> 00:11:20.720

shoes for that dumb.

00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:23.492

That online book club Sleep Up

00:11:23.492 --> 00:11:25.840

from last year because we weren't

00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:27.760

for the mostly every morning here,

00:11:27.760 --> 00:11:31.990

so I had those uhm.

00:11:31.990 --> 00:11:34.990

Not because the card maker spaces.

00:11:34.990 --> 00:11:36.562

I'm still feeling my way through
00:11:36.562 --> 00:11:38.400
that right now because I'm like, OK,

00:11:38.400 --> 00:11:40.570

I really wanna put a jigsaw puzzle.

00:11:40.570 --> 00:11:42.220

Yeah, there are many things from

00:11:42.220 --> 00:11:44.150

my perspective really.

00:11:44.150 --> 00:11:48.500

Yeah, everybody breathe on it.

00:11:48.500 --> 00:11:50.320

Uh, but yeah, yeah.

00:11:52.930 --> 00:11:58.580

All this stuff. Uhm, right now we're doing.

00:11:58.580 --> 00:12:00.729

I'm student thinking about how to do

00:12:00.729 --> 00:12:02.698

scary stories to tell in the dark.

00:12:02.700 --> 00:12:05.256

We just got a book club, but it's an

00:12:05.256 --> 00:12:09.519

activity I always do it in one spot there.

00:12:09.520 --> 00:12:11.500

Maybe I'll have to just do a light version

00:12:11.500 --> 00:12:15.070

like it was just pure kids, you know?

00:12:15.070 --> 00:12:17.998

Around water. So you were all,

00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:19.570

I guess, all reading programs.

00:12:22.190 --> 00:12:23.438

Authority over it.

00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:28.050

When I say that again,

00:12:28.050 --> 00:12:29.778

like you're you're in it's like
00:12:29.778 --> 00:12:31.490
all of these reading problems.

00:12:31.490 --> 00:12:32.848

You have something to do with them.

00:12:35.060 --> 00:12:39.114

Yeah yeah yeah yeah OK.

00:12:39.114 --> 00:12:41.418

Uhm, what about?

00:12:41.420 --> 00:12:44.507

Do you have to conduct any type

00:12:44.507 --> 00:12:45.830

of professional development

00:12:45.906 --> 00:12:47.996

for any other teachers here?

00:12:50.610 --> 00:12:53.590

Yes, coming after me.

00:12:53.590 --> 00:12:57.190

I'm doing it on teams up.

00:12:57.190 --> 00:13:02.358

I've done it some in person I and then

00:13:02.358 --> 00:13:05.620

second I'll just create a website or

00:13:05.620 --> 00:13:07.708

a or whatever and then have him sign

00:13:07.708 --> 00:13:09.707

Google form when they're done with it,

00:13:09.710 --> 00:13:11.360

you know and there when they

00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:12.730

complete it like right now,

00:13:12.730 --> 00:13:14.818

they're really supposed to

00:13:14.818 --> 00:13:16.906

complete their copyright tutorial.

00:13:16.910 --> 00:13:21.110

UM, actually should have, right?
00:13:21.110 --> 00:13:22.283
Just serve out.

00:13:22.283 --> 00:13:23.456

Just keep reminding.

00:13:25.590 --> 00:13:29.694

Right now, just as still not doing a whole

00:13:29.694 --> 00:13:32.568

lot of you have face to face meetings

00:13:32.568 --> 00:13:35.351

or we gather everybody in one spot and

00:13:35.351 --> 00:13:37.910

that's just you know in abundance caution.

00:13:37.910 --> 00:13:41.665

So right now just to do things, yeah.

00:13:41.665 --> 00:13:45.545

So in order, I guess that could be.

00:13:45.550 --> 00:13:49.108

To promote and encourage a focus on

00:13:49.108 --> 00:13:52.104

faculty you like to create websites or

00:13:52.110 --> 00:13:57.270

and do a man in them different things.

00:13:57.270 --> 00:14:00.048

Yeah, uh, something interact like online,

00:14:00.050 --> 00:14:04.047

yeah, but that's why I want to.

00:14:04.050 --> 00:14:07.470

Made. Alright, uhm.

00:14:10.710 --> 00:14:14.333

What about a few that are

00:14:14.333 --> 00:14:15.697

struggling and report like?

00:14:15.700 --> 00:14:18.980

How would you help them?

00:14:18.980 --> 00:14:21.820

OK, well my kids were struggling in reading.
00:14:21.820 --> 00:14:23.520
We've got Mr Middle school.

00:14:23.520 --> 00:14:26.480

We've got leaders all over the place here,

00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:29.156

OK, and we also don't have.

00:14:29.160 --> 00:14:31.218

Like you know, teachers who do.

00:14:31.220 --> 00:14:34.846

I guess comma called in related UM kids.

00:14:34.846 --> 00:14:40.902

So what I did with that was I need sure

00:14:40.902 --> 00:14:45.460

like all your books I don't order them all.

00:14:45.460 --> 00:14:46.832

Yeah, hi lexile level.

00:14:46.832 --> 00:14:48.890

You know this looks similar thing

00:14:48.951 --> 00:14:50.654

to think about, but I did that.

00:14:50.654 --> 00:14:52.703

I mean first of all I order what they're

00:14:52.703 --> 00:14:54.600

gonna like to read or check out,

00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.862

but I also order like really

00:14:57.862 --> 00:15:00.536

shorter books and as well you could

00:15:00.536 --> 00:15:03.058

call in Quickbreads right now.

00:15:03.060 --> 00:15:04.240

I just II mash,

00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:06.360

separated everything out when I got here,

00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:07.990

or I've started to separate
00:15:07.990 --> 00:15:10.030
everything out so that those books,

00:15:10.030 --> 00:15:12.480

summer picture books, but some of them,

00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:13.560

like our Junie B Jones,

00:15:13.560 --> 00:15:15.430

like really short chapter books.

00:15:15.430 --> 00:15:16.570

Those are I.

00:15:16.570 --> 00:15:19.226

I moved them to everybody section and

00:15:19.226 --> 00:15:22.234

actually and I don't put dots on them.

00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.165

OK, I think I'm really happy to

00:15:24.165 --> 00:15:26.667

say and I do not have accelerator.

00:15:26.670 --> 00:15:28.992

I had it for years when I was elementary.

00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:29.800

In the middle school,

00:15:29.800 --> 00:15:30.956

I don't want it, you know,

00:15:30.956 --> 00:15:32.828

so glad I don't have it and I don't put

00:15:32.828 --> 00:15:34.680

dots so it's like you know what I mean.

00:15:34.680 --> 00:15:35.760

So it's like,

00:15:35.760 --> 00:15:36.480

not judgment.

00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.976

Like if the kids feel comfortable,

00:15:38.980 --> 00:15:41.052

our kids like to go over to
00:15:41.052 --> 00:15:41.940
my everybody section.

00:15:41.940 --> 00:15:44.180

They love checking out Junie B Jones.

00:15:44.180 --> 00:15:46.884

UM I'm you know I'm like really good

00:15:46.884 --> 00:15:49.779

with that because I don't if you can't.

00:15:49.780 --> 00:15:51.691

If a kid doesn't have a higher

00:15:51.691 --> 00:15:53.425

reading level you can't just like

00:15:53.425 --> 00:15:55.413

put him in a higher lexile because

00:15:55.479 --> 00:15:57.355

you think they ought to be there.

00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.768

They can read it, so why not?

00:15:59.770 --> 00:16:02.210

Give them something to read,

00:16:02.210 --> 00:16:04.000

UM, that they can read.

00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:05.950

And I mean and I'm lucky.

00:16:05.950 --> 00:16:08.678

I mean, it's like it's a school librarian.

00:16:08.680 --> 00:16:10.790

I have latitude, you know.

00:16:10.790 --> 00:16:11.870

I don't have to say,

00:16:11.870 --> 00:16:12.701

Oh my God,

00:16:12.701 --> 00:16:14.640

I've got to meet this standard that

00:16:14.706 --> 00:16:16.771

standard and it's gotta be at this
00:16:16.771 --> 00:16:18.748
grade level or or that you know,

00:16:18.750 --> 00:16:20.270

yeah, I get to be the good guy.

00:16:20.270 --> 00:16:23.534

So I really like that the good guy

00:16:23.534 --> 00:16:27.950

reading person. Well good guy.

00:16:27.950 --> 00:16:29.390

Teachers being late I guess.

00:16:29.390 --> 00:16:34.100

Just holding back here not there.

00:16:34.100 --> 00:16:35.591

I mean, yeah,

00:16:35.591 --> 00:16:38.076

how do you encourage reluctant

00:16:38.076 --> 00:16:40.939

teachers to utilize the library?

00:16:40.940 --> 00:16:42.802

I tried to reach you out with

00:16:42.802 --> 00:16:44.704

something that they need. OK they are.

00:16:44.704 --> 00:16:46.510

I try to guess what they need.

00:16:46.510 --> 00:16:48.512

If they won't tell me I'll just

00:16:48.512 --> 00:16:50.743

guess it and see hate could you

00:16:50.743 --> 00:16:52.043

use someone said hey,

00:16:52.050 --> 00:16:58.020

could you use so and so and I will like?

00:16:58.020 --> 00:17:00.498

Like sort of teach them I like,

00:17:00.500 --> 00:17:02.828

teach them or teach their class
00:17:02.828 --> 00:17:04.380
will briefly rather briefly,

00:17:04.380 --> 00:17:06.810

but teach them like how to

00:17:06.810 --> 00:17:07.949

use whatever I like.

00:17:07.949 --> 00:17:08.192

Culture.

00:17:08.192 --> 00:17:09.988

Grams is one of the ones we're

00:17:09.988 --> 00:17:11.116

dealing with right now.

00:17:11.120 --> 00:17:14.576

I've only got a 30 day.

00:17:14.580 --> 00:17:15.868

Subscription then like it's

00:17:15.868 --> 00:17:17.075

a trial subscription, right?

00:17:17.075 --> 00:17:18.485

And it's expensive and so I'm

00:17:18.485 --> 00:17:19.960

not sure I'm gonna order it,

00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.040

but I'm sort of hoping a 6th grade

00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:26.123

teacher use it 'cause she's not tacky

00:17:26.123 --> 00:17:28.791

at all and culture grounds. By the way,

00:17:28.791 --> 00:17:29.820

you don't really have to be tacky.

00:17:29.820 --> 00:17:31.772

I mean, you get on the computer and

00:17:31.772 --> 00:17:33.648

you need to put your password in.

00:17:33.650 --> 00:17:34.862

But anyway, so yeah.
00:17:34.862 --> 00:17:37.430
So I like sort of let her kids

00:17:37.430 --> 00:17:39.789

through it so that that they know

00:17:39.790 --> 00:17:42.630

it's available to them.

00:17:42.630 --> 00:17:45.480

You can use this UM,

00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:47.290

so I'll demonstrate the use.

00:17:47.290 --> 00:17:49.850

Uh, uh, and like I said that's yeah,

00:17:49.850 --> 00:17:51.658

I just I like reach out to think

00:17:51.658 --> 00:17:53.010

about what would they like,

00:17:53.010 --> 00:17:53.973

what you know?

00:17:53.973 --> 00:17:55.899

How could I help you know?

00:17:55.900 --> 00:17:57.468

What can I do?

00:17:57.468 --> 00:18:00.640

Like to interest you and the library?

00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.601

Yeah, I'm the last kind of question

00:18:03.601 --> 00:18:06.099

is pertaining to your position.

00:18:06.100 --> 00:18:06.438

UM,

00:18:06.438 --> 00:18:08.804

would you say that the school librarian

00:18:08.804 --> 00:18:11.148

position is an administrator position,

00:18:11.150 --> 00:18:12.260

a teacher position,
00:18:12.260 --> 00:18:13.000
or both?

00:18:15.070 --> 00:18:20.780

Both, I would say really, truly fast, uhm.

00:18:20.780 --> 00:18:23.120

Probably both a whole bunch.

00:18:23.120 --> 00:18:25.514

When I was elementary I I get to lean

00:18:25.514 --> 00:18:28.170

a little bit more to administrative,

00:18:28.170 --> 00:18:30.305

like in middle and and then high

00:18:30.305 --> 00:18:32.456

school can be a whole different

00:18:32.456 --> 00:18:34.796

ball game as far as administrative,

00:18:34.800 --> 00:18:36.580

but you're still both really,

00:18:36.580 --> 00:18:39.330

really truly come. But yeah,

00:18:39.330 --> 00:18:41.409

but all right middle school I I really do.

00:18:41.410 --> 00:18:44.038

I'm I've enjoyed my I went

00:18:44.038 --> 00:18:46.039

two years 2 1/2 years.

00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:48.277

It's hard to say COVID but

00:18:48.277 --> 00:18:50.769

yeah here yeah OK so as this.

00:18:50.770 --> 00:18:51.594

School librarian.

00:18:51.594 --> 00:18:53.654

What are your expectations at

00:18:53.654 --> 00:18:55.354

the school administration like
00:18:55.354 --> 00:18:56.978
regarding your library program?

00:18:59.280 --> 00:19:00.464

What would you want?

00:19:00.464 --> 00:19:02.675

Uh, the other admin to support

00:19:02.675 --> 00:19:05.210

you with things of that nature.

00:19:05.210 --> 00:19:07.800

Early support, like any programs,

00:19:07.800 --> 00:19:08.847

are most programs.

00:19:08.847 --> 00:19:11.290

All programs did I come up with.

00:19:11.290 --> 00:19:13.050

I really like it when they do that.

00:19:13.050 --> 00:19:15.826

'cause it makes my life so much easier.

00:19:15.830 --> 00:19:16.433

Uhm, you know,

00:19:16.433 --> 00:19:18.170

rather than have to go in and argue,

00:19:18.170 --> 00:19:20.720

oh now, but we really do need to do this.

00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:22.729

I would love to have more money.

00:19:22.730 --> 00:19:25.690

Uhm, you know, I still, you know.

00:19:25.690 --> 00:19:26.690

Obviously I have to.

00:19:26.690 --> 00:19:29.940

I can use my, you know,

00:19:29.940 --> 00:19:32.590

allotment for books and databases

00:19:32.590 --> 00:19:35.158

but can't use it for staff and.
00:19:35.158 --> 00:19:40.160
So I do go in my own pocket for some of that,

00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:41.616

'cause it's like I really want to

00:19:41.616 --> 00:19:43.429

do a program or really want to do

00:19:43.429 --> 00:19:44.779

this bulletin board and I can't

00:19:44.779 --> 00:19:46.340

stand it if it don't look right.

00:19:46.340 --> 00:19:48.895

So so I do like you know I did go in my

00:19:48.895 --> 00:19:50.991

pocket but I like more money for that.

00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:51.323

Yeah,

00:19:51.323 --> 00:19:53.907

I would really like for more money that

00:19:53.907 --> 00:19:56.492

I love their appreciation 'cause they

00:19:56.492 --> 00:19:58.634

have been super supportive here of me.

00:19:58.640 --> 00:19:59.972

They've been super appreciative

00:19:59.972 --> 00:20:02.395

of I've like any of my programs

00:20:02.395 --> 00:20:04.573

and sometimes and sometimes I have

00:20:04.573 --> 00:20:06.720

to catch myself about things so.

00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.656

Easy to do, but it but I don't.

00:20:08.660 --> 00:20:10.368

I don't see that. No, no no.

00:20:10.368 --> 00:20:12.970

UM so yeah, so I I really do.
00:20:12.970 --> 00:20:15.290
Appreciation and support is probably

00:20:15.290 --> 00:20:17.910

the most important thing to me.

00:20:17.910 --> 00:20:22.302

OK, I'm sorry I didn't see the other page.

00:20:22.310 --> 00:20:24.910

Yeah, OK, they talk about they want to.

00:20:24.910 --> 00:20:27.078

I'm wanting me to ask you to

00:20:27.078 --> 00:20:29.106

describe the role of a library

00:20:29.106 --> 00:20:31.318

aide or repair or an assistant.

00:20:31.320 --> 00:20:33.426

I know we talked before he said that she

00:20:33.426 --> 00:20:36.770

didn't have, but you have one previously.

00:20:36.770 --> 00:20:37.684

Yeah, yeah.

00:20:37.684 --> 00:20:40.883

So what if you say day-to-day operations?

00:20:40.890 --> 00:20:43.570

I mean yeah, what they did and then,

00:20:43.570 --> 00:20:45.978

like the operation of the school library?

00:20:45.980 --> 00:20:48.368

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Oh my God.

00:20:48.370 --> 00:20:52.395

Yeah, first of all, when I had.

00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.576

A library media associate

00:20:54.576 --> 00:20:57.296

UM assistant scuse me uhm,

00:20:57.300 --> 00:21:01.320

you know she did man she could run the desk.
00:21:01.320 --> 00:21:03.144
Not every single day she went

00:21:03.144 --> 00:21:04.360

in here every day.

00:21:04.360 --> 00:21:04.914

That's OK,

00:21:04.914 --> 00:21:07.430

so that would give at the time that would

00:21:07.430 --> 00:21:10.140

give me like the time to go to the website.

00:21:10.140 --> 00:21:13.980

Go go do the ordering etc etc etc.

00:21:13.980 --> 00:21:15.468

And then that way I could

00:21:15.468 --> 00:21:16.999

really leave it open for book.

00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:18.890

Check out you know all day long

00:21:18.890 --> 00:21:20.900

on the days that she was here.

00:21:20.900 --> 00:21:23.180

So that was super super.

00:21:23.180 --> 00:21:25.076

Couple she did shell books for

00:21:25.076 --> 00:21:27.599

me and I'm a terrible silver.

00:21:27.600 --> 00:21:30.320

I hate shelving, boots up.

00:21:30.320 --> 00:21:33.160

She could probably tell.

00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:34.545

That's gonna that's always the

00:21:34.545 --> 00:21:35.653

last in my list.

00:21:35.660 --> 00:21:36.155

UM?
00:21:36.155 --> 00:21:40.115
She was great about helping me with displays.

00:21:40.120 --> 00:21:41.300

I can do this place.

00:21:41.300 --> 00:21:42.836

I do really good to spice,

00:21:42.840 --> 00:21:43.632

but honestly,

00:21:43.632 --> 00:21:45.612

this sometimes it's like the

00:21:45.612 --> 00:21:48.099

time that it takes to do them.

00:21:48.100 --> 00:21:48.944

And so I could.

00:21:48.944 --> 00:21:50.491

I could cover the desk or I

00:21:50.491 --> 00:21:51.606

could take care of this.

00:21:51.610 --> 00:21:53.689

OK, go do this play so it's

00:21:53.689 --> 00:21:55.450

just having those extra hands.

00:21:55.450 --> 00:21:57.142

She also had a really good

00:21:57.142 --> 00:21:58.270

relationship with the kids.

00:21:58.270 --> 00:22:00.419

She had known them longer than me.

00:22:00.420 --> 00:22:02.886

You know she had been here longer than me.

00:22:02.890 --> 00:22:04.440

So she had good relationship.

00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:06.324

She knew them and she knew

00:22:06.324 --> 00:22:07.580

the readers like what?
00:22:07.580 --> 00:22:09.925
So you know, she could also suggest

00:22:09.925 --> 00:22:11.710

things that they could read.

00:22:11.710 --> 00:22:14.356

She was a great readers advisory

00:22:14.356 --> 00:22:17.272

for me too or person because when

00:22:17.272 --> 00:22:19.555

I got here it had been a long time

00:22:19.555 --> 00:22:21.200

since I've done middle school.

00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:22.262

So you know,

00:22:22.262 --> 00:22:24.740

I knew some series I didn't know.

00:22:24.740 --> 00:22:26.576

You know, it's me serious as I do now

00:22:26.576 --> 00:22:29.430

and she helped me like, learns a lot of them.

00:22:29.430 --> 00:22:31.635

So you know, she was my helper.

00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:32.819

You know she.

00:22:32.819 --> 00:22:36.799

She was an integral part of the Media Center.

00:22:36.800 --> 00:22:40.370

Really, truly. So yeah, I miss her.

00:22:40.370 --> 00:22:45.196

No, I'm sorry. Are your.

00:22:45.196 --> 00:22:46.288

I guess I could.

00:22:46.290 --> 00:22:49.000

I could kinda answer this for myself if

00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.100

regarding your books being cataloged
00:22:51.100 --> 00:22:53.240
and shelved according to genre.

00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:56.187

Uhm I know that they are fiction,

00:22:56.190 --> 00:22:56.647

nonfiction,

00:22:56.647 --> 00:23:00.303

you have certain little pullouts that you do.

00:23:00.310 --> 00:23:00.652

Yeah,

00:23:00.652 --> 00:23:03.046

like graphic novels and I know you

00:23:03.046 --> 00:23:05.815

have that wire shelf up front So what

00:23:05.815 --> 00:23:08.188

it was necessarily in the wire ship.

00:23:08.190 --> 00:23:09.537

Just popular books.

00:23:09.537 --> 00:23:09.986

Yeah,

00:23:09.986 --> 00:23:13.260

so wire shelf right now is popular

00:23:13.260 --> 00:23:15.790

books and it started out being like.

00:23:15.790 --> 00:23:16.382

New books,

00:23:16.382 --> 00:23:16.678

right,

00:23:16.678 --> 00:23:18.750

but this was like last year when

00:23:18.815 --> 00:23:20.519

we didn't have any kids checking

00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:22.790

out and so then I got too crowded.

00:23:22.790 --> 00:23:26.050

But then when I found this year was oh OK,
00:23:26.050 --> 00:23:28.143
the the the new books were going

00:23:28.143 --> 00:23:30.087

out and pretty much staying out

00:23:30.087 --> 00:23:32.037

sometimes so I could also like

00:23:32.037 --> 00:23:33.958

put other stuff that I think

00:23:33.958 --> 00:23:35.920

kids might like to read that

00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.070

there there's simply not finding

00:23:38.070 --> 00:23:40.128

our shelves are weird I think,

00:23:40.130 --> 00:23:41.434

especially the fiction shelves

00:23:41.434 --> 00:23:43.064

because they're all down and

00:23:43.064 --> 00:23:44.960

you honestly have to get on the

00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:46.340

Florida like look for stuff.

00:23:46.340 --> 00:23:48.832

Which I hate, UM.

00:23:48.832 --> 00:23:50.078

So yeah.

00:23:50.080 --> 00:23:50.752

So I,

00:23:50.752 --> 00:23:52.768

I don't didn't Sean Rifai I

00:23:52.768 --> 00:23:54.719

can't wanna say that Ed Media

00:23:54.719 --> 00:23:57.040

told us not to at some point,

00:23:57.040 --> 00:23:59.440

but I haven't totally genre fied.
00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:03.400
I'm probably won't come.

00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:06.533

Because again, if I do get labels, uh,

00:24:06.533 --> 00:24:08.900

if I do that and somebody else comes in,

00:24:08.900 --> 00:24:09.752

I don't like that,

00:24:09.752 --> 00:24:11.300

then they gotta change it all back.

00:24:11.300 --> 00:24:13.508

So I kind of leave it and I'll

00:24:13.508 --> 00:24:15.509

pull sections that I know that are

00:24:15.509 --> 00:24:17.650

popular like the how to draw books.

00:24:17.650 --> 00:24:20.594

I pulled them and so they're kind of

00:24:20.594 --> 00:24:22.610

justified, but they're kind of not.

00:24:22.610 --> 00:24:24.632

But they're all together and I

00:24:24.632 --> 00:24:27.560

like see and I like the concept of.

00:24:27.560 --> 00:24:28.022

Like, well,

00:24:28.022 --> 00:24:29.408

I think it's called the Barnes

00:24:29.408 --> 00:24:30.280

and Noble concept.

00:24:30.280 --> 00:24:30.768

You know,

00:24:30.768 --> 00:24:32.476

like where you know I have books

00:24:32.476 --> 00:24:34.240

on the shelf to digital spine,
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:38.096
but then I have some room to do.

00:24:38.100 --> 00:24:40.935

You know the full cover out right?

00:24:40.940 --> 00:24:42.866

So then that gets the attention.

00:24:42.870 --> 00:24:45.060

UM, definitely the wire rack though.

00:24:45.060 --> 00:24:46.192

Right now, you know,

00:24:46.192 --> 00:24:47.890

that's probably where a lot of

00:24:47.952 --> 00:24:49.116

a lot of the kids go.

00:24:49.120 --> 00:24:50.080

They're not in the graphic novel,

00:24:50.080 --> 00:24:53.144

so go there and pick stuff from there.

00:24:53.150 --> 00:24:55.760

I'm trying to get I do have another display.

00:24:55.760 --> 00:24:57.020

I got it from DonorsChoose.

00:24:57.020 --> 00:24:58.080

It's not been put together.

00:24:58.080 --> 00:24:59.810

Yeah, uh, that I'm hoping

00:24:59.810 --> 00:25:01.980

will also be a popular spot,

00:25:01.980 --> 00:25:04.188

so I'm trying to put popular

00:25:04.188 --> 00:25:05.660

spots around the library.

00:25:05.660 --> 00:25:07.660

Uhm, I'm contemplating on

00:25:07.660 --> 00:25:09.660

doing the buckets again.
00:25:09.660 --> 00:25:11.208
I did a lot of buckets

00:25:11.208 --> 00:25:13.039

when I was in at Roland,

00:25:13.040 --> 00:25:15.119

and honestly that's what got checked out,

00:25:15.120 --> 00:25:17.395

you know and put all the sugar

00:25:17.395 --> 00:25:19.140

plum ballerina books altogether,

00:25:19.140 --> 00:25:20.632

or whatever you know,

00:25:20.632 --> 00:25:23.549

'cause he face out and they're easy and

00:25:23.549 --> 00:25:26.610

they don't have to go down on the shelves.

00:25:26.610 --> 00:25:28.962

Shelby is weird because.

00:25:28.962 --> 00:25:29.550

Anywhere,

00:25:29.550 --> 00:25:32.366

because if you've got too much stuff on

00:25:32.366 --> 00:25:35.532

the shelves nobody finds anything you know,

00:25:35.532 --> 00:25:37.254

unless they're researchers. OK,

00:25:37.254 --> 00:25:39.198

I'm talking about academic researchers then,

00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:40.440

yeah, they'll go find it.

00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:42.630

But the middle school kids aren't

00:25:42.630 --> 00:25:44.490

typically going to do that,

00:25:44.490 --> 00:25:46.429

so I just try to figure out
00:25:46.429 --> 00:25:48.299
ways of what can I feature.

00:25:48.300 --> 00:25:51.297

How can I get it to them the fastest?

00:25:51.300 --> 00:25:53.210

And also I'm in here by myself half the time,

00:25:53.210 --> 00:25:54.470

most of most of the time,

00:25:54.470 --> 00:25:57.250

so it's like I can't go get it for them.

00:25:57.250 --> 00:25:59.090

They need to be able to find it.

00:25:59.090 --> 00:26:01.526

So I'm contemplating my buckets again.

00:26:01.530 --> 00:26:02.972

You know which 'cause I got a

00:26:02.972 --> 00:26:05.071

bunch of new books, so maybe book.

00:26:05.071 --> 00:26:07.333

It's like real buckets and he

00:26:07.333 --> 00:26:09.599

would just put books in there.

00:26:09.600 --> 00:26:10.566

No, not really.

00:26:10.566 --> 00:26:13.250

I can so they're more like you know,

00:26:13.250 --> 00:26:14.940

rectangles like you can get

00:26:14.940 --> 00:26:16.630

them at the dollar store.

00:26:16.630 --> 00:26:18.946

I just call it buckets up.

00:26:18.950 --> 00:26:20.240

Yeah, yeah yeah you can get

00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:21.430

them at the dollar store.
00:26:21.430 --> 00:26:22.274
You know like this.

00:26:22.274 --> 00:26:23.540

You could also get some really

00:26:23.591 --> 00:26:24.646

nice clear ones at demco.

00:26:24.650 --> 00:26:26.874

That costs a lot more, you know.

00:26:26.874 --> 00:26:28.834

And they're like two good.

00:26:28.840 --> 00:26:35.020

To like that and then I put the books in

00:26:35.020 --> 00:26:37.540

trying to see if I have any buckets in here.

00:26:37.540 --> 00:26:39.984

I don't think I do up, you know,

00:26:39.984 --> 00:26:41.993

and I maybe put a series like

00:26:41.993 --> 00:26:44.219

the Treehouse series I just got.

00:26:44.220 --> 00:26:46.047

I might put that in those buckets

00:26:46.047 --> 00:26:47.908

and just put them all together.

00:26:47.910 --> 00:26:48.662

They're all facing out.

00:26:48.662 --> 00:26:50.199

The kids can go through and book book,

00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:51.430

book and then they don't have

00:26:51.430 --> 00:26:52.860

to get down on the shelves.

00:26:52.860 --> 00:26:55.050

I have seen shelving where people

00:26:55.050 --> 00:26:57.472

actually put the buckets in, you know,
00:26:57.472 --> 00:27:00.570
between the spine out books too so this is.

00:27:00.570 --> 00:27:02.466

All different kinds of ways of doing it,

00:27:02.470 --> 00:27:05.210

so I'm contemplating yeah, yeah,

00:27:05.210 --> 00:27:07.810

just to make things available.

00:27:07.810 --> 00:27:10.450

OK, and uh, for the future,

00:27:10.450 --> 00:27:11.190

or what do you see?

00:27:11.190 --> 00:27:14.095

School libraries and school librarians

00:27:14.095 --> 00:27:18.446

playing UM as a role in the future?

00:27:18.450 --> 00:27:21.346

Uh, do you think we'll still be here?

00:27:23.450 --> 00:27:25.445

Yeah, I think hope still be here.

00:27:25.450 --> 00:27:27.950

I mean I think.

00:27:27.950 --> 00:27:29.366

I really think you'll have to

00:27:29.366 --> 00:27:31.334

be tacky though. I really do.

00:27:31.334 --> 00:27:33.613

I mean, the more techie,

00:27:33.613 --> 00:27:35.702

honestly, the batter, UM,

00:27:35.702 --> 00:27:39.554

because without that you know 'cause

00:27:39.554 --> 00:27:43.765

it's technology is also a good organizer

00:27:43.765 --> 00:27:46.398

and so many things are technology now.
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.206
So without that,

00:27:48.206 --> 00:27:51.216

or without that comfort level,

00:27:51.220 --> 00:27:52.936

I'm not saying you have to

00:27:52.936 --> 00:27:53.794

pick computer scientist.

00:27:53.800 --> 00:27:56.470

I mean heck no, you know could be a computer

00:27:56.537 --> 00:27:58.966

scientist if that's what you majored in.

00:27:58.970 --> 00:28:02.540

Uhm? But it definitely technology.

00:28:02.540 --> 00:28:03.520

It's part of it, no,

00:28:03.520 --> 00:28:04.774

but yeah, I don't think real

00:28:04.774 --> 00:28:06.019

books are going to go away.

00:28:06.020 --> 00:28:08.060

I mean like 'cause this was.

00:28:08.060 --> 00:28:10.237

This is a great test here in

00:28:10.237 --> 00:28:12.305

a way because like last year I

00:28:12.305 --> 00:28:14.100

had to have everything on line.

00:28:14.100 --> 00:28:16.584

OK, we were virtual so everything

00:28:16.584 --> 00:28:18.240

I bought were ebooks.

00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:21.536

UM and I would probably kiss about it.

00:28:21.540 --> 00:28:22.878

You know, I'd be on teams.
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:24.944
I'm telling, OK, you go hearing it, it did.

00:28:24.944 --> 00:28:27.670

It did at UM.

00:28:27.670 --> 00:28:30.526

They still didn't even like wimpy kid.

00:28:30.530 --> 00:28:34.010

A ebook didn't get the the

00:28:34.010 --> 00:28:36.330

circulation that you know.

00:28:36.330 --> 00:28:40.178

My physical books do. UM, so yeah,

00:28:40.178 --> 00:28:44.546

people still like and need and what,

00:28:44.550 --> 00:28:46.524

uh, you know.

00:28:46.524 --> 00:28:48.498

Physical print books.

00:28:48.500 --> 00:28:51.324

I a good case in point is like

00:28:51.324 --> 00:28:53.523

I worked at Mercer UM Academic

00:28:53.523 --> 00:28:55.714

Library at part time for a while.

00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.330

It was a great gig, but.

00:28:58.330 --> 00:29:00.040

Uhm?

00:29:00.040 --> 00:29:02.567

When the pharmacy students or whoever there,

00:29:02.570 --> 00:29:04.030

it was mostly gradually.

00:29:04.030 --> 00:29:05.855

Atlanta campus is mostly graduate

00:29:05.855 --> 00:29:08.335

there when they had to do an exam as well.
00:29:08.340 --> 00:29:10.316
Sometimes it could be an open book exam.

00:29:10.320 --> 00:29:13.799

They would come and look and ask,

00:29:13.800 --> 00:29:15.936

do we have the physical book?

00:29:15.940 --> 00:29:19.206

OK, now we would have the, you know, online.

00:29:19.206 --> 00:29:20.654

We'd have the whole,

00:29:20.660 --> 00:29:22.580

you know they're terribly expensive,

00:29:22.580 --> 00:29:26.463

and so we would have the online books

00:29:26.463 --> 00:29:29.767

there for them would have text or whatever.

00:29:29.770 --> 00:29:31.688

But they would come and ask it,

00:29:31.690 --> 00:29:32.410

does this come,

00:29:32.410 --> 00:29:32.890

you know,

00:29:32.890 --> 00:29:35.059

in print and the other thing that they did.

00:29:35.060 --> 00:29:36.555

I remember one summer they

00:29:36.555 --> 00:29:38.050

complained because they they were

00:29:38.103 --> 00:29:39.347

making us closed earlier.

00:29:39.350 --> 00:29:41.030

'cause it was summer and they said,

00:29:41.030 --> 00:29:42.008

you know what?

00:29:42.008 --> 00:29:43.964

We don't have a copy machine.
00:29:43.970 --> 00:29:45.130
You know the students,

00:29:45.130 --> 00:29:46.580

they you know graduate students.

00:29:46.580 --> 00:29:48.470

We don't have a copy machine and we need to.

00:29:48.470 --> 00:29:50.360

We don't want to just read

00:29:50.360 --> 00:29:51.305

these articles online.

00:29:51.310 --> 00:29:52.990

We need to run them off to

00:29:52.990 --> 00:29:54.430

be able to read them.

00:29:54.430 --> 00:29:56.450

So they were turning the

00:29:56.450 --> 00:29:58.066

what's electronic into print.

00:29:58.070 --> 00:29:59.942

So I think that's a good case in point.

00:29:59.950 --> 00:30:00.261

Yeah,

00:30:00.261 --> 00:30:01.816

but you still need print.

00:30:04.820 --> 00:30:07.120

Well, thank you so much

00:30:07.120 --> 00:30:09.348

that I really appreciate it.

00:30:09.348 --> 00:30:12.939

I I appreciate all your help today too.

00:30:12.940 --> 00:30:19.138

So yes, thank you. Hi, let's see

00:30:19.138 --> 00:30:21.000

if I can actually make this work.