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Design Corner Eccentric Footing on Both Side

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kiranklk Poste d: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:27 am Post subje ct: De sign C orne r Ecce ntric Footing on Both Side
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Hi Please Anybody Tell Me How to Design Corner EccentricFooting on Both Side Without Starp
Beam. And Please Suggest me Any Books ForReference and Excel Spread Sheets.
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 B.V.Harsoda Poste d: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:05 am Post subje ct:
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Refer Links:-

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B.V.Harsoda Poste d: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:15 am Post subje ct:
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Dr. N. Subramanian Poste d: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:42 pm Post subje ct: R e : De sign C orne r Ecce ntric Footing on Both
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Dear Er Kiran,

It is very difficult to provide ecc. footings with out connecting it to adjacent footing with strap
beams, unless it is having very low AF. When it has ecc. on both axes, it is not advisable to
attempt such a footing, because footing is very important to any structure, and the loss of
footing due to loss of contact may be catastrophic to any building. That is the reason why it is
not included in any book. For both side ecc. footing, I suggest you to combine other footings and
provide a raft, as we do in lift wells.

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kiranklk wrote:

Hi Please Anybody Tell Me How to Design C orner EccentricFooting on Both Side Without Starp
Beam. And Please Suggest me Any Books ForReference and Excel Spread Sheets.

Regards Kiran.

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B.V.Harsoda Poste d: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:27 pm Post subje ct:
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In previous posting Er. Vikramjeet has been Explained nicety as Below:-

"L- Footings is generally required to be provided at the edge of

property line. This footing, if not connected to internal column, is
subjected to very high moment due to eccentricity of load w r t
footing centreline.

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 It is always preferable to connect this footing with some
internal column through a strap beam so that moment
due to eccentricity is taken care by this beam.For economy
in strap beam, it is necessary to take footing dimension
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in direction of eccentricity,as less as possible,say, half the other.
Location:
R AJKO T,GUJAR AT, INDIA "For edge footing without strap beam,it is difficult to satisfy
the no upliftment condition as redistribution is not permitted
for footings resting on soils.Even if some redistribution is
taken it may give very high value of upliftment of footing
and max pressure after redistribution is quite high(it has to be
less than SBC)
Some designers take advantage
of passive soil resistance(with some FOS) offered by the edge wall
to relieve eccentric moment but in that case edge wall shall
be strong enough to withstand this passive relief moment.

Long back I had seen a paper written by structural expert and author
Sh UH Varyani on the analysis of edge footing w/o strap
beams. This might be available in some of his books."

In Second Post said that

"in my opinion ,try to provide strap beam as per situation

given below in view of L-footing already cast without
strap beam.

i)assuming that columns are not cast above top of footing

In this situation you can provide the strap beam

connecting this column to internal column at
top of footing level .
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 ii)assuming that columns are cast above top of footing
upto GL/PL
In this situation you can provide the strap beam(tie beam)
connecting this column to internal column at
GL/PL but edge column reinf provided shall be adequate
enough to transfer the eccentric moment upto
strap / tie beam level. You can take advantage of
passive relief from soil(with some FOS) on edge wall on
either side of column .Also the orthogonal cross wall (if it exists)
will help. ( by way of its triangular load component beyond
footing line through dispersion which will provide counter
eccentricity)"

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vikram.jeet Poste d: W e d Mar 02, 2011 5:24 am Post subje ct: De sign C orne r Ecce ntric Footing on Both
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Corner Footing

As suggested by eminent members, the corner footing must have

balancing strap beams in both directions to counter the eccentric
moments .These beams must be provided at footing level itself.

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Posts: 2212 Avoidance of strap beam:(costly option)

A] If plinth beams are provided tie-ing the columns in

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both directions
(i) The column section of corner column below plinth level shall be
increased appreciably to take care of additional bi-axial moment s
due to eccentricities in both directions. Column Reinf shall be
worked out accordingly.
(ii) Plinth beam in each direction shall be designed for addtional
tensile force =M/Df
M = P*e
e = eccenricity= distance between CL footing and CL column
Df = fondation depth upto plinth level
This tensile force in plinth beam must have a counter force form other side
corner column, otherwise inner columns must share it.
(iii) Column above plinth beam level can have normal reinforcement
B] If plinth beams are NOT provided and roof beams are
available at roof level (i.e next floor level)
(i) The column section of corner column below roof level shall be
increased suitably to take care of additional bi-axial moment s
due to eccentricities in both directions.Column Reinf shall be
worked out accordingly.
(ii) Roof beam in each direction shall be designed for addtional
tensile force =M/(Df +H)
M = P*e
e = eccenricity= distance between CL footing and CL column
Df = fondation depth upto plinth level
H= roof height above Plinth level
This tensile force in roof beam must have a counter force form other side
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 corner column, otherwise inner columns must share it.

(iii) Column reinf above plinth beam level can can be slightly reduced
since addtional moment (due to eccentric) varies upto roof level.

Other reductions in eccentric moments

(i) Passive less active relief from soil on side faces

Best wishes and regds

vikramjeet

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B.V.Harsoda Poste d: W e d Mar 02, 2011 8:01 am Post subje ct:

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Thank you Very much Er. Vikramjeet ji, Your Knowledge ia appreciable. As rightly said by Dr. NS
Sir,due to certain reasons such footings not included in any book ,but considering cost of land &
requirement of client, it is not avoidable at all times. In such situations we have to do some
thing. It wiil be great work if we can be helpfull in this subject to needful structural Engineers. In
past we have discussed several times.Now I request to Er. Vikramjeet ji to submit, Article
Regarding L-footing & Corner Eccentric footings in Forum.

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 Best Wishes,

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B. V. Harsoda
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vikram.jeet Poste d: W e d Mar 02, 2011 9:40 am Post subje ct: De sign C orne r Ecce ntric Footing on Both
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Thank you, respected Harsoda sahab.

As informed by you , lot of discussion in this regard has been taken place on sefi.
These footings are not very un -common . IS codes do not provide any guidelines
in this regard .
Joine d: 26 Jan 2003
Books on design/analysis do talk about provision of strap beams and their analysis.
Posts: 2212 However provision of these footings without strap beams is dealt seldom.The
analysis of L- footings is ,I think,dealt by our respected UH Varyani sahab in his book
on MS buildings which is part of his Paper in ICJ.

I have posted my recent views on L -footings without strap beams purely based
on basics.The basic idea is that eccentricity moment on footing need to be
resisted through either a strap beam (if present) /or through column itself being
tied at certain level above.

As suggested , I would be glad to write on sefi at some future date after noting
the comments of members.

with kind regards

vikramjeet

Thank you Very much Er. Vikramjeet ji, Your Knowledge ia appreciable. As rightly said by Dr. NS
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 Sir,due to certain reasons such footings not included in any book ,but considering cost of land &
requirement of client, it is not avoidable at all times. In such situations we have to do some thing. It
wiil be great work if we can be helpfull in this subject to needful structural Engineers. In past we
have discussed several times.Now I request to Er. Vikram jeet ji to subm it, Article Regarding
L- footing & Corner Eccentric footings in Forum .

Thanks
&
Best Wishes,
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