Intern: Hey, Naina and Rupa

Naina and Rupa: Hello ma'am,

Intern: Have a seat both of you
Naina and Rupa: Thank you ma'am
Intern: So Rupa how are you feeling today?
Rupa: I'm feeling better. A little bit happier too.
Naina: Yes ma'am, after these 2 sessions I can also see quite a few positive changes​ ​in Rupa.
Intern: That’s amazing. I’m glad to hear that the sessions are helping you.

Intern: The counselor is with another client so in the meantime you can fill this questionnaire,this
is your third session, so this questionnaire helps us to assess your state of mind, that is, how
these 2 sessions helped you.
Rupa: Okay ma'am.
Rupa: ma'am i filled the questionnaire.
Intern: Okay Rupa, good.
Intern: Now let's go and meet the counselor
Counselor room
Intern to counselor: ma'am Rupa and Naina is here for today session.
Counselor: Hi Rupa and Naina.
Rupa and Naina: Hi ma'am.
Counselor: Naina you can wait outside while I take today's session with Rupa.
Naina: okay ma'am​.
Counselor: come, have a seat rupa.
Rupa: Thank you ma'am.
Counselor: So Rupa how you are feeling now?
Rupa: Better ma'am, after this two sessions I am able to feel some positive changes in me
Counselor: Can you explain in detail like what positive changes you feel in yourself?
Rupa: yes ma'am, Now a days I feel more confident like in this week I do many things which I
wasn't able to do before, like I don't know where is the library in my college so I asked a person
for the direction to library, and I answered a question during my lecture. I'm very happy now that
after this two sessions I am able to do these.
Counsellor: I’m happy to hear that you can see the improvement in yourself. And I must say you
are a really keen girl, Rupa. I’m impressed to see how you pay close attention to all the little
details.
Rupa: Thank you ma’am.
Counsellor: Okay, so shall we start today’s​ ​session? Are you ready?
Rupa: Yes ma’am​.
Counsellor: In today’s session we are going to do a sort of a rapid fire round. We’ll take one of
your many negative thoughts and see where it leads us to. And what this is going to help us with
is getting some of those negative automatic thoughts organized. Can you think of a reason as to
why this might be helpful?
Rupa: Uhhh… I’m not too sure, ma’am.
Counsellor: No worries. I’ll explain it to you in detail. In one of the previous sessions, you told
me that you love reading novels. So if you think about the automatic thought being like the first
clue to solve a murder mystery. You know that there are other clues out there but they are
hidden and you need to put in effort to bring them to light. So you use the first clue and with its
help you reach to the core clue that could lead you to the murderer. Similarly, Automatic thought
leads to other automatic thoughts. This helps us to reach the core belief, the belief that plays a
major role in the way we behave and that is the fundamental part that needs to be changed.
Now what do you think?
Rupa: Okayyy… now I understand what you mean to say.
Counselor: Good. So now let’s start with an automatic thought you told me in the last session.
You said that you are unable to make decisions on your own since your parents have been
making all of them for you.
Rupa: Yes ma’am.
Counsellor: So what does this thought​ ​mean to you?
Rupa: uhhh.. Idk. I think it means that I’m unable to do things properly. Like umm.. I keep
making mistakes and keep on messing things up. Everytime I sit to do something as simple as
drawing a​ ​circle, I make a mistake.
Counselor: Hmm hmm alright. So what if you do make a mistake? What is your thought process
when you make a​ ​mistake?
Rupa: I … uhh… I think that if I make mistakes in such small things then I might never be able
to do other things right either. Like I might always need someone to help me out or to give me
instructions as to what I should and shouldn’t do. I’ll become dependant on others
Counselor: Right, So you think you might become dependent on someone. Could you tell me
what exactly do you mean by “becoming dependent”?
Rupa: Yes. Like rn also I’m unable to do things on my own. I always bug Naina to accompany
me. Even for trivial things like buying books, I need her to come with me​.
Counselor: Okay so you mean that you will want them to accompany you everywhere, Right?
Rupa: Yes
Counselor: And what if that ends up being the case? Like you end up needing someone to
always be with you then what would it mean for you?
Rupa: It would mean that I won’t have anyone. Everyone will be irritated by my behaviour and
leave me alone. And I will be lonely.
Counsellor: Hmm right. So what would happen if you end up alone? Like if that did happen then
what will you feel?
Rupa: I will feel awful. Like then it means that no one will like me.
Counselor: And if no one likes you. Then what? What does it mean to you?
Rupa: It means that I’m useless. And my ability to not do things perfectly is the reason why
everyone dislikes me.
Counselor: So this is the core belief. This is the fundamental part that needs us to work on. Now
let me clarify that core belief might not always be what you actually think about yourself. It is
your fear that what if this is true and since the thought has such a deep impression on you, we
can work on it and see where it leads us. Are you ready to do that?
Rupa: Yes ma’am. I really want to bring a change.
Counselor: Now let's try this with the trouble that brought you here. Presentation. What were
your thoughts when you skipped the presentation?
Rupa: I was really worried that I might mess something up.
Counselor: what would have happened if you did mess up something in the presentation?
Rupa: That thought is too much for me. I am sure that I would look like a fool.
Counselor: what would happen if you did make a fool of yourself?
Rupa: Everyone would laugh at me.
Counselor: Do you remember any of your classmates who messed up a presentation? Like do
you remember everything specifically like what part did she mess up?
Rupa: I remember that Naina had messed up a presentation this monday but I don't remember
the exact details.
Counselor: see it has just been 4 days and you forgot what part she messed up. Soon you will
completely forget that she made a mistake in one of her presentations. Right?
Rupa:Yes ma'am.
Counselor: So now next time you have to give a presentation or say something in front of the
class, you need to think "This is scary for me but even if I mess up, what is the worst that could
happen? Everyone will forget in a week or two".
Rupa: Okay ma'am.
CounselorGood. This is how you challenge your automatic negative thought. With practice you
will be able to turn your negative thoughts into more rational ones. so what will you do?
Rupa: uhhh… I will try to challenge my negative thoughts like this? Maybe…
Counselor: yes but remember that at this stage you might not be able to challenge each one of
them. take it slow and you will also win the race.
Rupa: Thank you, ma'am.
Counselor: You're most welcome. Now that we know about the core belief and how to tackle the
negative thoughts, let's move on to the next part. Do you remember the deep breathing
technique I taught you last time? Did you practice it on your own?
Rupa: Yes ma'am. It helped me to take the initiating small steps while trying to do little things
like asking for direction.
Counselor: I'm happy to hear that it is working. Here, in this video the person is teaching
progressive muscle relaxation technique. Progressive muscle relaxation is an exercise that
reduces stress and anxiety in your body by
having you slowly tense and then relax each muscle. During this exercise, each muscle should
be tensed, but not to the point of strain. If you have any injuries or pain, you can skip the
affected areas. After following the instructions in the video, I want you to note down how you're
feeling at that moment after completing the exercise in your journal. We can discuss it in the
next session. Is that Okay?
Rupa: Yes ma'am. But uhh… I write it in spanish since I need to learn the language too.
Counselor: oh that's fine. I won't read your journal, you can use it for reference while we discuss
it. Okay?
Rupa: Okay, ma'am.
Counselor: Good. Then I'll see you in the next session. Bye.
Rupa: Bye ma'am.