Lessons From Assisting: What I learned From

RSD Derek

Last weekend I had a chance to teach a program with Jeffy and the infamous Derek. Even though I was
busy teaching, the times I got to talk to Derek were a huge influence on me. I wanted to share a bit about what I
learned.

Have you ever heard about someone with a crazy reputation, and then you meet them, and they don’t quite
live up to the hype? Derek is the exact opposite of that. I’d heard a lot about him, even met him once, but seeing
this guy in action blew my hair back and completely surpassed my expectations. Some of the lessons that I learned:

-On rejection: In his free tour speech he said that most guys learning from him ask how they can get perfect
tens everynight and never get rejection. His response? “If you figure out how to do that, you should be teaching
ME”. He claims to have been rejected by over 12,000 girls, but hes so grounded in his reality that it has no effect on
him. The vibe I got from him is that he is a very logical thinker. So every set he does, he adds the result to his
reference experiences, analyzes what would constitute value for that girl, and what he might have done differently.
With his successes, he adds the moves me makes to a flow chart of things that will or will not work with that kind of
girl, in that kind of situation. This has the effect of nothing really surprising him, since he has seen it all before.

-On Dominance: When you meet Derek, you immediately realize he is an extremely dominant person. There
is no supplicating, no qualifying himself. Everything he says seems definitive. However, what really solidified his
frame for me is the lack of trying on his part. Most guys that are trying to seem masculine will never let another guy
have the last word. Everything they say seems to be part of a plan to make you see how alpha they are. Derek, on
the other hand, is 80% of the time a polite, logical dude… but he radiates masculine energy regardless. Hes not
‘trying’ to be anything, he simply is. He listens to what you are saying, comes up with thoughtful responses, and is
generally a ‘nice’ person. However this is interspersed with him saying whatever the fuck he wants, making bold
moves when necessary, being harsh when he needs to, and giving his real opinion. Derek is an essence a killer who
has decided to be sincere. Most ‘alpha’ guys are weak minded people who have decided to show you how alpha they
are. Everything you see with Derek is real. There is no pulling of punches or caring about what peoples responses to
him will be.

-On Relationships: Derek imparted a story to us in which he was with a beautiful girl that was not quite living
up to his standards. He realized that by continuing this relationship, not only was he robbing himself of a great
relationship with someone else, but he was also robbing a high quality girl out there of a relationship with him. This
was unacceptable and he dumped his girl right away. He has the frame that any girl can only offer him so much,
where as he can offer any girl an amazing array of experiences including great sex, travel, good food, life advice, and
a large range of emotions. What can the girl offer him? Sex, companionship… not much else most of the time. The
relationship is largely in her favor. As he said, most girls, no matter how beautiful are a pain in the ass. A good
relationship shouldn’t be 50/50, it should be 90/10. As in, you need to pick a girl that you are compatible with 90%
of the time, and have to compromise with 10% of the time. Screen hard for the right girl.

-On taking action: You’re either getting better or getting worse, so you need to be constantly pushing
yourself to take things to the next level. No one cares about you’re goals but you, so if you aren’t taking massive
action the things you want in life are simply never going to happen. Things will often not work out how you want
them too, and its up to you to deal with that. Every day he tells himself ‘I accept reality for what it is, even when I
don’t like it’. As a man, you need to be out there like a fucking villan going after what you want in life. He told us
stories about sleeping with multiple girls at the playboy mansion, pulling celebrities, out framing people in high
authoritative positions, etc. This comes from doing the right thing, even when you don’t feel like it. You cannot follow
your short term emotions EVER if you want long term results. You have to accept your short term feelings as tricks
and take right action anyways. However things end up when you take the right action, its better then if you hadn’t
taken that action even if things didn’t go how you would like. Get in the habit of approaching 9s and 10s in every
situation, whether it be at the grocery store, club, etc. You NEED to develop this habit. Over time you will get better
at it because you know you have to, since you aren’t letting yourself off the hook.
 -On Entitlement: I have never met anyone with a higher sense of entitlement then Derek. When talking to a
student that works in the finance sector he said “You and I are the overlords, we are the people that people riot in
the streets over. You need to start fucking acting like it. (To all the students) All of you. You to find out why you are
leader and start acting like it.” Getting competence in any skill increases your over all confidence, so you need to be
constantly learning and growing as a person. Make no mistake: you are giving the girls more then they are giving
you. Act like it. Don’t let anyone try to put you in your place or take from you what’s yours.

-On interactions with Others: He is very direct and honest with people, even to the point of being harsh
sometimes. How he explained it though was this is how he talks to himself as well. Having this type of self talk is
paramount to achieving your goals. This is mixed with self compassion: Don’t beat yourself up every time you fail,
you need to be understanding that things wont always work out.

There seems to never be a time where Derek was not 100% himself. The stories he told about his past also indicate
that he feels that as a man you should be trying to placate yourself to anyone. Its your responsibility to assert what
you believe, to lead the situation, and to not bow down to people. If a girl is giving you shit, give her shit right back.
Say what you really think.

On pick up: His general pick up seems to be to go in with a brutally honest, almost shocking opener “My my aren’t
you pretty, id like to fuck you behind the dumpster out back” and then temper this with a joking frame and a lot of
smiley yet dominate humor. This might get him blown out by many girls, but the girl that is actually down to pull will
go with him in a very short period of time. The basic pick up should be: opening with blunt honesty, joking around
but being blunt at the same time, push/pull while leading the girl, build rapport with the girl, ruthlessly go for the pull
and take her home. If you are doing this right, you should very rarely be running into LMR because you are
screening out the not DTF girls with your blunt honesty and demeanor. He’ll say things like “You hold my hand like
my grandmother holds my dick” and “you’re such a silly slut, how long you been a stupid bitch”. Of course he is
super calibrated and knows when to back off, and most of these things are said with a positive jokey vibe. He also
talked about flirting with the other girls in the group, even if that other girl is the mom, and NEVER placating to the
guy. The girl should never see you being a bitch, even for one second. There is no hesitation, no wavering. He also
gets physical very fast but in an intelligent way that doesn’t freak the girl out.

As far as I can see Derek is the perfect combination of outer game and inner foundations. He does use things like
push pull, statements of empathy, deep comfort ‘routines’ etc. But they are coming from a place of congruence and
dominance.

So that’s what I learned. He also had some craaazy stories that I’m going to leave out as they aren’t really fit for
mass consumption. But you can probably imagine some of the shit this guy has pulled off.

Lately I’ve been asking myself ‘What would Derek do?’ in every situation I find myself in. He really clarified a lot for
me in terms of what I want my life to look like and how I get there. Hopefully this article can help you do the same.
-Lucien

"Come here, don't embarrass me girl... You hold my hand like my grandmother holds my dick." (Derrick)
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Tylers not talking about some sort of superstition, that's the whole point.....there is no magic, no shortcut, you have to go through

the process to get what you want, whether you like it or not....the process you need is what you'll experience, he's just being

poetical or metaphorical, he's not saying the universe is some sort of inteligent person making conscious decisions about what

events to send to you personally!

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neuroplastic10k wrote:

The problem is the Law of Attraction goes way beyond this into the metaphysical realm and shit. Which we as

humans know nothing about and dont even know really exists.

Like keep the image of what you want always in your mind?

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Posted September 4th, 2013 at 2:38 AM
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Lets say you want to build a building.

What you want is the building to exist.

What actually happens is you draw up designs, shit goes wrong, the architect is a wanker, the engineers are slow, the builders are

lazy, the whole thing goes 10x over budget. BUT you now know exactly how to build another building better, in less time and

where to budget more money.

What you get are learn the lessons you need to be able to create the result.
But you don't attract shit unless you're hustling. An electromagnet needs energy flowing in and out constantly to attract anything

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the problem with this is there are litterally thousands of ways for you to get the building....you might need not even

build one...the building might already exists and somebody can just give it to you like a present...you might even

need not work for it...

Watts wrote:

Lets say you want to build a building.

What you want is the building to exist.

What actually happens is you draw up designs, shit goes wrong, the architect is a wanker, the engineers are slow,

the builders are lazy, the whole thing goes 10x over budget. BUT you now know exactly how to build another

building better, in less time and where to budget more money.

What you get are learn the lessons you need to be able to create the result.

But you don't attract shit unless you're hustling. An electromagnet needs energy flowing in and out constantly to

attract anything ;)

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I seriously wish I snagged a "Dis Fatties, Bang Hotties" shirt :'(

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Me too, I think I'll make it myself.

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None of them, they seem like something you see on a Urban Outfitters

clearance rack circa 2002, seriously jeffy even sell any?

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None of them, they are pretty awful.

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read some tolle bro

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''This is what ENOUGH looks like'' would be great

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read some tolle bro Wrote:

I'm looking forward to the limited edition "You Can't Deport Half A Gangster" shirts.
More like "You Can't Deport A True Gangster" I like that one.

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spagheddy Wrote:
''This is what ENOUGH looks like'' would be great

Badass too.

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LACK OF AUTHORI TY OVER YOURSELF:

This is a response that Manmotherfuckingwhore give to a guy asking about entitlement issue on his forum:

This is very very simple dude. This is the problem 98% of people have with life, why there are so few "winners" out
there. I'm not putting a trip on you, I'm just explaining the issue. People want to be told what to do, and for the
most part they are. "Go to school, get good grades, go to college, get a good job, or join the military. Get married,
buy shit, be happy". That's the greatest "gift" that society has to offer, they will tell you what to do, they'll give you a
path and a direction to take. There are thousands of routes/examples. Guilds, unions, large companies, video games.
They give you a role and a job, and "fulfillment".
But when it comes to getting women, or being an entrepreneur, or getting a chiseled bod.. none of these are good
enough. It takes a singularity of purpose, the ability to give more than you get, HARD discipline, self-leadership
abilities.. all of these lead to a sense of self-trust and charisma. One of the greatest downfalls of the kind of system
we're in is the widespread birth of derps. They've never had to figure shit out for themselves they never "grow up".
It's a state of perpetual childhood. Similar to "rich kid syndrome". I was in it myself, I was GOOD at it. I had amazing
grades, varsity sports, a job, went to a good college, joined the military as an officer, then got out in 2008. A
WONDERFUL time to get out of a stable job lol. I realized I didn't know shit about the way things really worked, I
wasn't an entrepreneur but I realized that was my main goal for the next few years, to become independent of the
job/rat system. It took me a few years but I did it. I learned internet marketing and web development and quit the
jobs I had.
In the end I want to go places and see things, I want to train martial arts at ACTUAL Asian schools. I want to WALK
around Europe and South America. Then come back and beat up the system, but not address it from a public office
sense, I want to undermine it by SUPPLYING a better way. I want to have the capabilities and effectiveness
necessary to address police bullying and corruption, to address how the American system keeps the poor
downtrodden. Even something super simple like setting up free "auto mechanic" workshops would raise WHOLE
communities up from poverty.
Derps go into a club with the same mentality. "I see girls, I want, how do I get them? Someone tell me!" But there's
no system in place. There used to be it was called the Catholic church. It controlled women's sexuality so well that
you could be "awarded" a woman for being a good little cog in the wheel. Derps walk up to a girl or walk around, or
stand around with their drinks held up to their chests, looking to be accepted before they feel comfortable enough to
give back. That's bullshit. YOU have to be the one bringing the energy. You have to be the one leading from the get-
go. The same self-motivated, self-initiating energy has to be ON to be able to walk up to a girl and MAKE something
happen.
If you can't do that then develop a social circle and have status within it. Some people have managed to make this
happen with almost minimal effort, or "consumer" type value, like drugs. This is why everyone wants to be a dj, or
follows the "popular" thing, so they can be accepted and supposedly receive the things that society has to give. Well
women are no longer one of those things ;)

I wanted to add that the problem is that because everyone has it so easy in today's culture and society, they're never
forced to experience enough pain to want to change or improve their results, or they're never pushed hard enough
growing up to develop the ability to tackle big problems/scenarios and acquire the toughness that is mandatory for
achieving the higher things in life, like women or money. Now neither of these represent a lost cause. This is what
we're talking about when we say "anyone is trainable", because the training itself is what develops the person.

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I've identified my biggest leak in game right now is that almost all my sets last between 1 second and 5 minutes. You just aren't

going to fuck a girl this way unless she's super slutty. Or the stars align and you convey everything she needs to know extremely

quickly.

That's why all my insanely fast pulls have a shitty conversion rate once they're in my apartment. No connection/comfort etc.

It's also why my night game quality is so much lower than day game etc.

What exactly do you do to have sets last longer? I guess be less polarizing, more normal, less physical?

I find it difficult to be in set for more than this amount of time before a friend cockblocks me, or they excuse themselves, some

logistical thing happens like their group is moving somewhere else, or the boyfriend shows up, or I get bored, or etc

Any number of things happen very early on in the set and make it highly difficult to stay in for much longer. This is especially the

case in situations where they're with a large group, can't find their friend, or super high energy dance floor situations

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It depends on the set, although generally, if its a large group and the girl likes you, you can actually join them to dance etc. As

long as you introduce yourself (or she introduces you...), then you can hold her hand/she holds yours as you walk to the next

place. This is actually a good thing because it solidifies the interaction, and is basically a clear signal that she probably (unless

you fuck up massively) wants to fuck you. The longer you spend time together and the more you move about the club together

the more likely it is that you'll fuck.

With smaller sets you just want to keep talking to your girl as much as possible, if the friend wants to dance etc you join them

too. In this case, it would massively help if you have a wing (he can enterain/fuck the friend). If there is no wing, dont stress

about it, chances are the friend will meet some other dude and fuck him. Or she might find her other friends and then you can

hang out with your chick alone. If both fails (i.e. the friend has no dude to fuck her AND no other friends to go to) then you keep

hanging out with her until you get to yours/hers. Hang out a bit in the room and then just take your girl to your/her bedroom to

'sleep'. The point is, if the chick wants to fuck you, she will.

IF all this fails, she seems like she isnt ready to fuck you, or she doesent want her friends to think she is a slut etc, take her

number (its always good to do this regardless of the situation - at the start) and text/call her later to meet up. IF that fails too,

set up a day two. While calling/texting, go get another girl, this chick might flake. The point is, where there is a will, there is a

way...

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I'm sure you heard the phrase "burn it (the set) to the ground", This is common, pick up is a numbers game and is just like

fishing literally. You throw in your hook and hope that a female will bite and start luring her in. Some might get hooked good,

others might just pass the bait, and still others might bite but the hook isn't in good, and when this is the case you try to reel

slow but when she's trying to get away with all her might then you fucking yank that pole and rip her fucking fish lips apart. Just

kidding, but it's something like that.

Like fishing the trick is to have fun, and be free from outcome. I go in with the mind set I'm practicing my million dollar mouth

piece and kino escalation. When I open a set and she bites I'll practice self amusement and force myself to stay and talk to her

and then I'll start moving her around, this is the key, I do this by practicing my screening, which is going for the hand hold. Once

I'm holding her hand, I'll lead her somewhere, this is how you get instant dates.

If she doesn't want to follow or doesn't want to hold your hand, then ease up, practice your talking and then try and hold her

hand again, escalate. This is the process that you need to be enjoying and giving yourself credit for.is trying to escalate the set

all the way to a fuck or kiss close all the while knowing she's gonna put up resistance that you will overcome using the process,

untill the process of escalating no longer is gonna work which is when the set is already burnt to the ground...

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It's a mix of different factors. I guess you're asking that question after viewing Julien's last video where he is advising the guy to

stay in a long set.

It's a matter of doing things till you've almost had enough or on the tip of getting bored then you keep changing. Have a

conversation be physical and keep leading to different spots keep changing topics and let her also do her work, when you've

had enough take her to the dance floor and dance. You've had enough lead outside the dancefloor to smoking room or the bar.

Open other people and chat them up, you've had enough of staying at the same spot, go outside for some fresh air. Keep it

smooth, just keep giving emotional hits everynow and then.

Sometimes you've got to be a bit persistant in situations where she is having some excuse like if the girl is looking for her

friends, lead her by the hand and tell her let's look for them and that you would like to meet them. If she says she wants to go

smoke, take her by the hands and go to the smoking room. Befriend cockblocks or scare them away.

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Advantage Wrote:

I've identified my biggest leak in game right now is that almost all my sets last between 1 second and 5 minutes. You
just aren't going to fuck a girl this way unless she's super slutty. Or the stars align and you convey everything she
needs to know extremely quickly.

That's why all my insanely fast pulls have a shitty conversion rate once they're in my apartment. No
connection/comfort etc.

It's also why my night game quality is so much lower than day game etc.

What exactly do you do to have sets last longer? I guess be less polarizing, more normal, less physical?
I find it difficult to be in set for more than this amount of time before a friend cockblocks me, or they excuse
themselves, some logistical thing happens like their group is moving somewhere else, or the boyfriend shows up, or
I get bored, or etc

Any number of things happen very early on in the set and make it highly difficult to stay in for much longer. This is
especially the case in situations where they're with a large group, can't find their friend, or super high energy dance
floor situations

Thanks

Don't know if you remember the 2 sets we run on the strip after the last night of bootcamp with D at Vegas.

You're set were pretty fucking long. I handle the indian girl fucking smoothly she was digging me and you're girl open up

because you plow like a motherfucker.

I actually fuck that one up. I say to the indian girl that I need to drive Max to the airport... we could have pull this 2 together.

Dude you are amazing. I got massive respect for your dedication knowing from what place you came from. Just add the fun to

you juice and you're done. Self amusement is your biggest sticking points not longer set.

Did you come to Miami or Vegas this year ?

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The response of JesusinParis is legit. He's my bro and kill it in big set and hold Long fucking interaction.

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