CONTRACT NO.

: N-17765

PROJECT TITLE : Unit III Water Transmission Scheme

CLIENTS : Abu Dhabi Transmission & Despatch Company (TRANSCO)

CONTRACTOR : Societie Egyptienne D’etreprises (SEDE)

DOCUMENT – COMMENT SHEET – RESPONSE SHEET

Comment Sheet Ref: N-17765-STANTEC-SEDE-CS-0101 Date of Comment: 14.03.2023

Incoming Submittal Ref: N-17765-SEDE-STC-OT-0124 Date of Receipt: 21.02.2023

Document / Material Number Rev P Document Title QTY

1
1 Wall Thickness Calculations For Miter
N17765-P-11-213-1-02-0 0
Fittings

P: PURPOSE CODES
0: For Distribution 1: Issued for Approval 2: Issued for Construction
3: Issued for Information 4: For further necessary Action

STATUS CODE:

Approved – No comments Not Approved – Re-submit

 Approved Except as Noted Additional Information required


Pr opo s edLin e-1A1 and L i ne-1A2 to existi ng pip el in esweld join ts tes ting tobe doneas per sp eci fic ation
W -P -S -S - 012 (re v .01)c lause 19.1 .1a ndt es t re port sh all besu bmitt edf or revi ew an da ppro v al.
For Information only Please return copy of signed CS for receipt confirmation

Stantec UK Ltd / Home office support

Abu Dhabi Transmission and Despatch Company

(TRANSCO)

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Comment Sheet Ref: N-1 77 65 - STANTE C- S E DE - CS -0 10 1 Date of Comment: 14.03.2023

Incoming Submittal Ref: N-1 77 65 - SE DE -S TC- OT- 01 24 Date of Receipt: 21.02.2023

Sr. No. Reviewed Stantec / TRANSCO Contractor Response Stantec /

by TRANSCO
Stantec Comments applicable to all mite bend wall thickness calculation (Part A)
A
Stantec As per W-P-SS-002, Section 2, "All materials and workmanship
1. shall comply with the latest editions of applicable standards and
codes."
Modified
For e.g., ASME 31.3, latest edition is 2022, whereas referred
standards are of edition 2012 and 2020.

ASME B36.10M (2018) is superseded with ASME B36.10 2022.

Stantec For DN1200, PN25, wall thickness of 22.5 deg elbow is Modified to 15.88
2. selected as 15.09. Please clarify the reference document from
where this thickness is selected.

As per ASME36.10, standard available wall thickness for

DN1200 pipe next to 14.27 mm is 15.88mm.

Stantec It is noted that, in this calculation, fitting material grade is stated as
3. ASTM A516 Gr.70. Please reconfirm the material grade.
Material Submittal of Carbon Steel Pipes & Fittings (N17765-M-07-
109-4-001) indicates material grade as API 5L Gr. B.
- We confirm that the fitting material grade is
ASTM A516 Gr.70 as stated.
- Yield stress mentioned value had a typo error
and modified to the correct value of 262 Mpa,
however it will not affect the calculations as the

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Comment Sheet Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S TANTE C- SE DE -CS - 01 01 Date of Comment:
Incoming Submittal Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S E DE - STC- O T-0 12 4 Date of Receipt:
Also match the mechanical properties used in this calculation
against the material grade as per ASME B31.3.
For e.g. For ASTM A516, Gr 70; min. yield strength is 262 MPa,
whereas value stated in this calculation is 245 MPa.
Stantec Add snip shot for table/reference with highlighting the values for
4. quality factor (E) and weld joint strength reduction factor (W) with
respect to proposed material grade.
Stantec Please check value stated for minimum yield strength (Y) with
5. respect to proposed material grade.
Add snip shot for table/reference with highlighting the values for Y.
Stantec Wall thickness calculation subjected to external pressure is missing.
6.
Refer ASME B31.3, para 304.2.4 and 304.1.3.
Stantec Please demonstrate how wall thickness value (T) is selected.
7.
i.e., whether the ‘T’ value is randomly selected from ASME36.10
and cross checked with value of max. allowable pressure (Pm) with
different combination of no. of cuts (n). or firstly minimum thickness
of straight pipe is calculated as per as per ASME 31.4 and then
selected next standard available thickness in ASME36.10.
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allowable stress is specified correctly.
Added
Added
According to ASME B31.3 para 304.2.4 and
304.1.3. The detemination of wall thickness for a
miter bend under external pressure can be
specified by the same methodology used for
straight pipes which was already conducted in the
pipes' wall thickness calculation submitted under
document no N-17765.A-P-11-213-1-02-1 . Given
that all fittings have an equal or larger thickness
than the adjacent pipe
A procedure of iterations was conducted in order
to achieve all the following:
-Minimum wall thickness achieving the required
pressure rating
-Minimum number of cuts
-Used wall thickness equal to or larger than the
pipe wall thickness
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 DOCUMENT – COMMENT SHEET – RESPONSE SHEET

Comment Sheet Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S TANTE C- SE DE -CS - 01 01 Date of Comment: 14.03.2023

Incoming Submittal Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S E DE - STC- O T-0 12 4 Date of Receipt: 21.02.2023

Stantec Demonstrate how value of mechanical allowances (c) is derived. -Corrosion allowance is taken zero according to
8. Clearly indicate each allowance value (mill, corrosion, erosion, etc.) W-P-SS-002 and AWWA M11
separately. - Mill tolerance is taken 5% according to w-p-ss-
002
Add a snapshot of the reference from where values are taken.
Stantec Check the equation for minimum crotch length. It shall be as
9. below.
Modified

Stantec Contractor shall ensure that the miter bend weights are considered To be complied
10. in the pipe stress analysis as per derived total length of miter bend,
selected thickness and material grade.
Comments applicable to all branch connection wall thickness calculation (Part B):
B

Stantec It is noted that, submitted branch connection wall thickness
11. calculation is in accordance with ASME B31.3.
However, as per W-P-SS-002, section 4.1, “The wall
thickness of water piping components shall be determined by
the Design Engineer considering the applicable design
conditions, in accordance with ASME B31.4 code and OWNER
design guideline as applicable”.
Since W-P-SS-002 under the fittings section
has stated that " Shop fabricated miter bends
are allowed for sizes larger than DN 600 (24”)
in accordance with ASME B31.3 " , the
designer has also used ASME B31.3 for the
design of branch connection so that all the
fittings are following the same specification

Also, as per W-P-SS-002, section 4.3, “In general, fittings shall be in

accordance with ASME B31.4 unless otherwise mentioned.”

Please clarify the reason for calculating the branch connection wall
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 DOCUMENT – COMMENT SHEET – RESPONSE SHEET

Comment Sheet Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S TANTE C- SE DE -CS - 01 01 Date of Comment: 14.03.2023

Incoming Submittal Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S E DE - STC- O T-0 12 4 Date of Receipt: 21.02.2023

thickness in accordance with ASME B31.3.

Stantec It is noted that, in this calculation, fitting material grade is stated as - We confirm that the fitting material grade is
12. ASTM A516 Gr.70. Please reconfirm the material grade. ASTM A516 Gr.70 as stated.

Material Submittal of Carbon Steel Pipes & Fittings (N17765-M-07-
109-4-001) indicates material grade as API 5L Gr. B.
Also match the mechanical properties used in this calculation with
the stated material grade as per ASME B31.3.
- Yield stress mentioned value had a typo error
and modified to the correct value of 262 Mpa,
however it will not affect the calculations as the
allowable stress is specified correctly.

For e.g. For ASTM A516, Gr 70; min. yield strength is 262 MPa,
whereas value stated in the calculation is 245 MPa.
Stantec 2.1 Branch connection Data: The reference for outside diameter is ASME
13. B36.10M, and the allowable stress value is
Indicate reference from where the run tee outside diameter and verified in the proposed calculation sheets
branch tee outside diameter values are derived.

i.e., whether it is refereed from pipe wall thickness calculation or

selected from standard pipe thickness from ASME B36.10 and
verified for allowable stress values.
Stantec 2.2 Material Data: Added
14.
Add snip shots of respective tables (in Appendix) from where values
are referred against the material grade.
Stantec Demonstrate from where run pipe and branch pipe nominal wall The run pipe and branch pipe wall thickness
15. thickness values are derived since these are not matching with the can be equal to or larger than the connection
values stated in the pipe wall thickness calculation submittal. pipes according to proposed stresses and

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 DOCUMENT – COMMENT SHEET – RESPONSE SHEET

Comment Sheet Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S TANTE C- SE DE -CS - 01 01 Date of Comment: 14.03.2023

Incoming Submittal Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S E DE - STC- O T-0 12 4 Date of Receipt: 21.02.2023

wall thickness calculations

Stantec Expand the section for run pipe and branch pipe pressure design
16. thickness values calculation.
Stantec Add reference of selected value of reinforcement pad wall thickness
17. (Tr).
Check calculated value of outer diameter of reinforcement pad
(ODpad). It is not matching with 2 x d2
Stantec Add equation for calculation of available reinforcement area in pad
18. (Ar), in branch weld field (Aw1) and pad weld field (Aw2).
TRANSCO The wall thickness shall be verified by the piping stress analysis and
19. KY / AAM hydraulic calculations. Contractor shall be responsible for any
required design changes, if necessary, as per the pipeline stress
analysis.
Please also specify the maximum surge pressure that the selected
wall thickness can withstand. Surge pressure during the surge
analysis shall not exceed this value. Please confirm.
TRANSCO Add the load case for checking bucking pressure for scenario of
20. KY / AAM external loadings of dead load plus compactor loads during
construction, considering that 2 layers of 300 mm above the pipe
crown would be manually compacted followed by dynamic
compaction with a certain roller or plate compactor weight.
Expanded
-Reinforcement pad wall thickness is an
individual output for each branch calculations,
noting that the thickness is selected based on
ASME B36.10M
- 2d2 is the maximum value of R-Pad
diameter in the reinforcement area,
description was modified
Equations are already presented in the
calculations, and fig.328.5.4D for acceptable
details for branch attachment welds are
presented in the appendix with symbols on
the figure.
- To be complied
-Maximum surge pressure is additional 10%
of the design pressure according to ASME
B31.4 overpressure criteria presented in
pipes wall thickness calculation sheets
-Maximum surge pressure is added in the
fittings wall thickness sheet
-Already added in the pipe wall thickness
proposed calculations.
-Please note that all fittings have either equal
or larger wall thickness to the pipe of the
same diameter
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Comment Sheet Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S TANTE C- SE DE -CS - 01 01 Date of Comment:
Incoming Submittal Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S E DE - STC- O T-0 12 4 Date of Receipt:
TRANSCO The collapsing pressure due to the external loads shall be checked
21. KY / AAM pursuant to equation # 4.4 & 4.4M vide AWWA M-11.
TRANSCO Buckling shall be checking for the allowable stress for above ground
22. KY / AAM pipework (for e.g., pipework inside pump hall, pipework at reservoir
inlet) where external pressure (collapsing pressure) can apply.
Therefore, please the pipe collapsing pressure due to external loads
shall be checked for above ground pipework as per AWWA M11,
Section - EXTERNAL PRESSURE—EXPOSED OR SUBMERGED
PIPE.
Also add a clause in Section 4.2 b stating "Buckling for above
ground pipe" for external load condition.
TRANSCO Contractor shall refer to ASME B31.4 # 403.2.5 “The designer is
23. KY / AAM cautioned that susceptibility to flattening, ovality, buckling, and
denting increases with D/t ratio, decreased wall thickness,
decreased yield strength, and combinations thereof. Pipe having a
D/t ratio greater than 100 may require additional protective
measures during construction”.
Contractor to verify and confirm if any additional protective
measures are needed during construction.
Note: The above comments and/or approvals do not relieve the Contractor from his contractual obligations to ensure conformance to the specifications.
Any deviation(s) found after this approval are to be corrected by the Contractor to the satisfaction of the OWNER/ENGINEER.
Also, it is to be understood that these comments and/or approval shall not be interpreted in anyway as limiting the CONTRACTOR's responsibilities
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-Already added in the pipe wall thickness
proposed calculations.
-Please note that all fittings have either equal
or larger wall thickness to the pipe of the
same diameter
-Already added in the pipe wall thickness
proposed calculations.
-Please note that all fittings have either equal
or larger wall thickness to the pipe of the
same diameter
No other protective measured are needed as
pipes and fittings wall thicknesses have been
checked with different internal and external
cases of loading and construction case in
addition to that detailed stress analysis of the
system to be provided with multiple
combinations of loading cases.
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Comment Sheet Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S TANTE C- SE DE -CS - 01 01 Date of Comment: 14.03.2023

Incoming Submittal Ref: N- 17 76 5 -S E DE - STC- O T-0 12 4 Date of Receipt: 21.02.2023

and obligations to provide a safe working place complying with all related regulations. The execution of subject work shall complete with all
necessary requirements to facilitate and ensure trouble free operation, maintenance, and safety of the complete installation.

STATUS CODE: Approved – Except as Noted

Signed: ______________________________ Signed: HSAJ, AAM / ASA__________

For Stantec UK Ltd / Home office support for TRANSCO

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