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PART 1: IN A NUTSHELL ABOUT THE “FWD EQPT VAL” MESSAGE – ATA 21-58
THE SYSTEM HAS NO DEDICATED CONTROLLER. THE OPERATION IS BASED ON RELAY LOGICS AND SWITCH POSITIONS.
THE SYSTEM HAS A CARD – M867 – IN THE P50, WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR COCKPIT INDICATIONS, SUCH AS “OVHT”, “SMOKE”,
“NO COOLING” AND “VALVE” DISAGREE INDICATIONS ONLY. IT DOES NOT CONTROL ANY OF THESE VALVES.
THERE ARE SIX VALVES IN THE SYSTEM, ALL OF THEM ARE MONITORED FOR DISAGREE AND THE SYSTEM GIVES US THE SAME
“VALVE” DISGAREE INDICATION. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH VALVE HAS CAUSED THE PROBLEM.
THESE ARE THE VALVES, THE TITLE OF THE VALVES VARY IN DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS, IT IS BETTER TO CALL THEM BY THEIR EQUIPMENT
NUMBERS;
V12 – OVERBOARD EXHAUST VALVE
V178 – INBOARD BYPASS / SHUTOFF VALVE NO-GO
V91 – INBOARD SUPPLY VALVE
V140 – SMOKE CLEARANCE / OVERRIDE VALVE NO-GO
V90 – MANIFOLD INTERCONNECT VALVE / 3-WAY VALVE NO-GO
V900 – FDARS VALVE (FLIGHT DECK AIR RELIEF SYSTEM VALVE)
IN “AUTO” AND “STBY” MODES, V12 AND V178 ARE CONTROLLED TOGETHER.
V90 AND V900 ARE ALWAYS CONTROLLED TOGETHER.
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FOUR VALVES – V12, V178, V91 AND V140 MONITORED BY THE M867 CARD AND THEN THE CARD PROVIDES POSITION DISAGREE
INDICATION TO EICAS AND THE “VALVE” LIGHT.
TWO VALVES – V90 AND V900 – ARE NOT MONITORED BY THE M867 CARD. THEY REPORT DISAGREE VIA K2197, K2198, K140723 AND
K10725 RELAY LOGIC, DIRECTLY TO THE EICAS COMPUTERS AND THE “VALVE” LIGHT. THIS IS TRUE FOR BOTH ON-GROUND AND IN-FLIGHT
CONDITIONS. REF. SSM 21-58-41.
IN-FLIGHT, V12 CLOSED POSITION SWITCH IS MONITORED VIA K200 AIR/GND AND K1008 RELAYS. REF. SSM 21-58-01.
IN “AUTO” MODE, TWO VALVES, V90 AND V900 CHANGE THEIR POSITIONS DURING CLIMB AND DESCENT. THIS CAN HELP T/S.
IN “AUTO” MODE, SKIN TEMP. ABOVE 49 ̊F, V12, V178 AND V91 CHANGE THEIR POSITIONS ON THE GROUND, DURING THE SECOND ENGINE
START AND UPON ARRIVAL AT THE FIRST ENGINE SHUTDOWN.
IN “AUTO” MODE, SKIN TEMP. BELOW 41 ̊F, ONLY V91 CHANGES POSITION. THIS CAN HELP T/S.
BY SWITCHING FROM “AUTO” TO “STBY” OR “OVERRIDE” POSITION, YOU CAN EXCERCISE THE VALVES AND THEIR POSITION SWITCHES AND CONTROL
CIRCUITS.
THERE ARE THREE APPLICABLE MEL ITEMS;
o MEL 21-58-07-02-01 V12 DEACTIVATION: CLOSED LOCKED, SHORTING PLUG INSTALLED.
o MEL 21-58-08-01-01 V91 DEACTIVATION: CLOSED LOCKED, SHORTING PLUG INSTALLED.
o MEL 21-58-15 V900 DEACTIVATION: CLOSED LOCKED, SHORTING PLUG INSTALLED.
THE PROBLEM IS, BEFORE YOU APPLY THE MEL, YOU MUST TROUBLESHOOT AND IDENTIFY THE FAULTY VALVE(S). IN THE MEL KIT YOU CAN FIND
SHORTING PLUGS TO INHIBIT THE MESSAGE AND THE LIGHT.
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE MEL 21-58-01-01 FOR THIS MESSAGE!
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TROUBLESHOOTING TIPS: CLICK HERE TO OPEN THE QUICK TROUBLESHOOTING JOB AID!
THE DEACTIVATION SHORTING PLUGS CAN BE USED TO VERIFY THE FAULTY VALVE OR VALVE CIRCUIT; V12, V91 AND V900. (V91 AND V178 ARE
INTERCHANGEABLE.)
THE OPEN AND CLOSED POSITION SWITCHES OF THE VALVES PROVIDE GROUND SIGNALS WHEN THE VALVE IS IN THE OPEN OR CLOSED POSITION.
CHECK FOR GROUND SIGNALS, OR LACK OF GROUND SIGNALS.
IN THE MEC, INSIDE THE P36 PANEL YOU CAN FIND THE CONTROL, TIME DELAY, POSITION INDICATION AND POSITION DISAGREE RELAYS. VIA THE
SPECIFIC RELAY SOCKET YOU CAN CHECK THE POSITION SWITCH OF A SPECIFIC VALVE.
REF.: SSM 21-58-01, 21-58-02, 21-58-03, 21-58-06, 21-58-41. CLICK HERE TO OPEN THE RELATED COMBINED SYSTEM SCHEMATIC MANUAL
V900, VALVE, FLIGHT DECK AIR RELIEF SYSTEM (FDARS), P/N 67-2951-001.
ACTUATOR P/N 3200-1. “FOR REFERENCE ONLY” 3
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 6
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
V140
• “AUTO” MODE
45 F
BYPASS VALVE
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE • ON-GRD
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT > 49 F
SUPPLY FAN
VALVE NO-GO • ENG < 2
ON
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 7
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
• “AUTO” MODE
45 F V140
BYPASS VALVE
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE • ON-GRD
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT: N/A
VALVE NO-GO • ENG = 2
SUPPLY FAN
ON
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 8
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
• “AUTO” MODE
V140
BYPASS VALVE 45 F • IN-FLT, CLIMB
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT: N/A
VALVE NO-GO • ENG = 2
SUPPLY FAN • ALT < 10,000 FT
OFF
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 9
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION • “AUTO” MODE
V140 • IN-FLT, CLIMB
45 F
BYPASS VALVE
OVERRIDE / SMOKE • OAT: N/A
SKIN TEMP
CLEARANCE • ENG = 2
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH
VALVE NO-GO • ALT > 10,000 FT + 5 MIN.
SUPPLY FAN • 2 PACKS ARE ON
OFF • A/C AIR TEMP < 104 F
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR
TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 10
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
• “AUTO” MODE
V140
BYPASS VALVE 45 F • IN-FLT, DESCENT
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT: N/A
VALVE NO-GO • ENG = 2
SUPPLY FAN • ALT < 10,000 FT
OFF
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 11
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
• “AUTO” MODE
45 F V140
BYPASS VALVE
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE • LANDING, ON-GRD
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT: N/A
VALVE NO-GO • ENG = 2
SUPPLY FAN
ON
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 12
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
• “AUTO” MODE
45 F V140
BYPASS VALVE
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE • ON-GRD, SHUTTING DOWN
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT < 41 F
VALVE NO-GO • ENG < 2
SUPPLY FAN
ON
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 13
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
V140
• “AUTO” MODE
45 F
BYPASS VALVE
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE • ON-GRD, SHUTTING DOWN
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT > 49 F
SUPPLY FAN
VALVE NO-GO • ENG < 2
ON
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 14
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
• “STBY” MODE
V140
BYPASS VALVE 45 F • ON-GRD
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT: N/A
VALVE NO-GO • ENG: N/A
SUPPLY FAN
ON
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 15
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
• “STBY” MODE
V140
BYPASS VALVE 45 F • IN-FLT
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT: N/A
VALVE NO-GO • ENG: N/A
SUPPLY FAN
ON
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE C M.I.V
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
OFF
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 16
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
• “OVRD” MODE
V140
BYPASS VALVE 45 F • IN-FLT or ON-GRD
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE
SWITCH CLEARANCE • OAT: N/A
VALVE NO-GO • ENG: N/A
SUPPLY FAN
OFF
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE A
B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE C M.I.V
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
OFF
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 17
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
• IN ANY MODE / ” CLASS E ” MODE
45 F V140
BYPASS VALVE (MAIN CARGO FIRE SUPRESSION)
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE
SUPPLY AIR SWITCH CLEARANCE • ON-GRD OR IN-FLIGHT
VALVE NO-GO
SUPPLY FAN
OFF
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE
A B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C
DETECTOR NO-GO
104 F
EXHAUST AIR TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
ON
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 18
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15
PART 2: FORWARD EQUIPMENT COOLING VALVES OPERATION
V140
• IN ANY MODE / FUEL JTSN MODE
45 F
BYPASS VALVE
SKIN TEMP OVERRIDE / SMOKE • ON-GRD OR IN-FLIGHT
SWITCH CLEARANCE • ENG: OUT
VALVE NO-GO
SUPPLY FAN
OFF
LOW
V91 FLOW
INBOARD SNSR TO FWD E/E TO F/D
SUPPLY
130 F
VALVE
V178 OVHT E1
MEL 21-58-08-01-01 SW.
INBOARD
BYPASS/SHUTOFF NOSE WHEEL WELL
VALVE NO-GO
NOTE: V91 & V178
ARE INTERCHANGABLE. E2
LOW
FLOW
SNSR
V12
OUTBOARD
EXHAUST
VALVE A
B
MEL 21-58-07-02-01
AB = CLOSED
V90 CB = OPEN
SMOKE M.I.V
C NO-GO
DETECTOR
104 F
TEMP
EXHAUST FAN SW.
OFF
AIR CONDITIONED AIR
V900
BYPASS VALVE FDARS 19
“FOR REFERENCE ONLY”
MEL 21-58-15