Professional Documents
Culture Documents
July 2023
The presenters today
Martin Vo
Jean-Luc
Pauli
Anne
Minne
disclaimer
Other experts in Central Teams are involved in Standardization Work:
Michael Medard
Xavier Meyer
External consultants working for SG
( they are not here today …)
This webinar is not aiming at replacing Standarization seminars ( which in general last 1.5 days)
This webinar is not aiming at addressing Product Standards
Agenda
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European standardisation organization
CEN members:
• 27 EU countries,
• 3 EFTA countries: IS, N and CH 6
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Who is writing standards?
• Standards are written by groups of experts representing different types of stakeholders, for
instance:
• Producers,
• Users,
• Assessment bodies and test laboratories,
• Universities and research centres, 8
• Authorities …
• They work together in dedicated technical committees
and working groups
• Standards represent the state-of-the-art and
are the result of a consensus
How can the industry participate in the standardisation
process?
• In CEN and ISO, experts are nominated by
their national “mirror group” • In the national “mirror group”, experts
• They shall express the position of their can represent their company
national committee
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The different types of standards
“Vertical” TCs
(products TCs)
“Horizontal” TCs
Scope of today
Vertical TCs
Horizontal TCs
Why it is crucial to participate in writing standards?
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Because we can:
Anticipate requirements and assessment method in advance of standard publication – be ready on time
Make trials to ensure that proposed assessment method is appropriate and realistic – give feedback
Counterbalance testing laboratories who often have limited knowledge of industrial realities
Ensure a level playing field with competitors… for instance Insulation : more than 30 different industries
EU regulations don’t give technical details. Standards are the technical documents that complement them
Which horizontal TCs are relevant for us?
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products
CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and of buildings
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Saint-Gobain
interested
parties in
countries
How to disseminate the information?
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products
CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and of buildings
Saint-Gobain
CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements andGroup existing
of buildings
• leaders: Pascal Ozouf, Pierre Leroy and Marc Rehfeld (as consultant for
glass)
• Strong binding CEN and ISO => 44/55 standards are “EN ISO” standards
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Members :
All SG interested parties from:
France, Central R and D, Germany,
Sweden, Turkey, Central mkg, UK….
Open to more 18
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CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings
• Members for Saint-Gobain active in CEN: Martin Vo, Wiktor Drazkiewicz, Jean-Luc Pauli, Christophe
Lemerle
• Coordinator : Martin Vo
• Low level of collaboration with ISO/TC92 => 5/92 standards are “EN ISO” standards
• Main topics: resistance to fire and reaction to fire in CEN
• Why do we follow: 20
Martin Vo
JL Pauli- Martin Vo
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Just a light
monitoring. We This WG Light monitoring here with the
are not active in has not help of allies ( Eurima for
this WG started yet instance)- easy to follow
Examples from TC 127 WG1 or WG2
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- A new EN that describes DIAP Rules for this method : example I did
test on SW ( density 80kg/m3, binder content 6,fiber orientation type A,
thickness 30 mm..) . Can I use this test report for my second SW
product ( 90 kg, binder content 6.5 etcetera) → high impact on
certification costs
TC 89 (CEN) and TC 163 (ISO)
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products
???
CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components
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• Strong binding CEN and ISO => 56/77 standards are “EN ISO” standards within TC 89
• Why do we follow:
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• revision of all standards related to the EPB requirements and EP certificates (revision mostly
under CEN lead)
• Lots of working group dealing with hygrothermal properties for insulating material and Glass
• Also developments regarding durability of products for airtightness
• Hot plate-hot box methods ( new material since the 90ties)
• Around 20 WGs ( 6 to 7 are relevant for SG)
In CEN
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Example: CEN TC 89 WG8 followed by CRIR
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Guillaume
Pandraud SGR
Compiègne in two
working groups
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CEN TC 89 still..
(airtightness management)
Johanna Wolf
→ Draft for vote soon from Central
team ATMM
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Revision EN ISO 13788- recent publication
of new version
November
2022
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Simplified calculation methods to determine the minimum temperature that must be observed on a
wall to ensure that no mould development will be possible – also helpful to measure the risk of
condensation into the mass of the element ( due to vapour diffusion in the element)
Former version was from 2001
In ISO
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ISO/TC163/SC2: standard on adaptive façade (1/2)
• ISO/FDIS 52016-3: Energy performance of buildings — Energy needs for heating and cooling, internal
temperatures and sensible and latent heat loads —
Part 3: Calculation procedures regarding adaptive building envelope elements
• Based on ISO 52016-1:2017, Energy performance of buildings — Energy needs for heating and
cooling, internal temperatures and sensible and latent heat loads — Part 1: Calculation procedures
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• The types of adaptive building envelope elements covered are:
• Building envelope elements with dynamic solar shading
• Building envelope elements with chromogenic glazing
• Building envelope elements with an actively ventilated cavity
ISO/TC163/SC2: standard on adaptive façade (2/2)
Advantages:
• The calculation of the effect of dynamic glazing will valorise active
products in facades
Saint-Gobain products that will benefit of it:
• Sage Glass (electrochromic glass)
• Insulating glass containing venetian blinds
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Risks:
• Conventional blinds (external
or internal) will also take
benefit of this standard
Saint-Gobain products at risk:
• Solar control coated glass
Conclusion reg CEN TC 89 and ISO TC 163
→ Need a leader
→ We have no clue regarding what standards are really used by Saint-Gobain
TC 371
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products
!!!!!!!
CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components
CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and ofSG
buildings
Group
CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings SG Group
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• Members for Saint-Gobain: indirectly through EURIMA organization / through national mirror groups
• Why do we follow:
• The benefit of our products shall be correctly taken into account in EPB standards
• We need to adapt our products to future evolution of the standards
CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings
Scope of CEN/TC371:
• Focus only on the Energy Performance of Buildings (EPB)
• Ensures the development, alignment and maintenance of a coherent set of standards for the
determination of the EPB
Two main tasks:
1. Developing standards at overarching EPB level
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2. Coordinating the activities of related and specialized TCs
CEN/TC 371
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TC 350
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products
• Why do we follow:
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• Because Saint-Gobain wants to become the worldwide leader in light and sustainable construction
• Increasing importance of circular economy, not only in our values but also for our clients and for
the planet
• Because SG is promoting the whole life cycle approach
• Because lots of new things coming from the European Commission
TC 351
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products
??????
CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components
CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and ofplatform
buildings
• Why do we follow:
• Because we are talking about REGULATED substances here( strong connection with ECHA)
• To anticipate future changes in assessment methods and adapt our R&D efforts
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• Because this TC also addresses circular economy stakes ( re used- sorting in landfill..)
How to assess
Ammonia emission
for instance voted in
2021
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Evaluation of Radiation
from construction Work in progress ( how to detect
products voted in 2022 Just
definitions presence of asbestos)– no vote up
(for EURATOM directive) to now see next slide
see next slide
Example #1 from TC 351( radiation) voted in 2022
Important for
Stone wool
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Example #2 from TC 351 : asbestos in waste (1/2)
Important for
Gypsum - Recycling
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Asbestos ( 2/2)
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CEN/TC250: structural Eurocodes
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Final picture
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products
??????
CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components
CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works Sust Construc Team regular info
CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of release of dangerous substances
Communication soon
CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings ??????
CEN/TC 442: Building Information Modelling (BIM)
Some subjects (BS) are discussed in other clubs
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Building science in CEN/TC88 – insulation
• WG 10-1 min wool for HVAC and industry assess durability of performances for
• WG10-2 to WG10.8: EPS, PU, CG for insulation
industry
• WG15-1 min wool blowing wool
• WG15.2 to WG15.7 ….
• WG17: wood fibers
• WG19: ….
• WG 23 vegetal fibers
One example « mould growth evaluation »
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One example « mould growth evaluation »
Scope This document describes a laboratory test method to determine the
susceptibility of thermal insulation products against mould growth under
specified climatic conditions. The method is applicable to both factory-made
products and in situ formed products. Factory made products include
panels, mats, and rolls. NOTE: In situ formed products are usually those
that are delivered loose and installed by blowing-in, pouring, or spraying-on,
eventually using water and/or binder, whether or not they are also treated 54
using additives.
The test shall be carried out with one of the conditions described in Table 1.
This test method determines the susceptibility of a thermal insulation
material to mould growth, but it does not determine the suitability for use in a
given design (wall, roof, etc.).
One example « mould growth evaluation »
Principle The test specimens are prepared from insulating material test
samples and are sterilized, then inoculated with a defined quantity of
fungal spores.
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g1 = solar g2 = solar
factor factor BIPV
ISO/TC160
WG9 60
BIPV
IEC/TC82 CEN/TC129
JWG11 WG9
PV panels Photometry
Measurement
& calculation
method
FAQ
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Exemple of FAQ :The role of the national mirror group
In addition, mirror groups are often the standardisation committee writing the national standards
complementing the EN or ISO standards (installation rules, guidance, selection of a type of product by
type of application, …)
Exemple of FAQ :BS community as a solution to share
info..
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Exemple of FAQ :delta between standardization and
regulation? Do you understand the difference ?
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annexes
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