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Standardization Work

and Building science

July 2023
The presenters today

Martin Vo
Jean-Luc
Pauli

Anne
Minne
disclaimer
Other experts in Central Teams are involved in Standardization Work:

Michael Medard
Xavier Meyer
External consultants working for SG
( they are not here today …)

This webinar is not aiming at replacing Standarization seminars ( which in general last 1.5 days)
This webinar is not aiming at addressing Product Standards
Agenda

General introduction - the basics

Understand who is following what regarding the so called « Horizontal topics »


Acoustic- fire- thermal- Energy perf of building-IAQ –sustainability …
………….. with some example….

FAQ –discussion during the last 30 minutes (use the chat)


Worldwide standardisation organization

• ISO is a worldwide organisation and has members in almost all countries


• There is a strong collaboration between ISO and CEN (Vienna Agreement)

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European standardisation organization

CEN members:
• 27 EU countries,
• 3 EFTA countries: IS, N and CH 6

• UK, NMK, SRB and TR


Different types of agreement with
the other countries shown in the map.
Other major standardisation organization

• ASTM is based in the USA


• They have a “Memorandum of understanding” (MoU) with or members in the countries below

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Who is writing standards?

• Standards are written by groups of experts representing different types of stakeholders, for
instance:
• Producers,
• Users,
• Assessment bodies and test laboratories,
• Universities and research centres, 8

• Authorities …
• They work together in dedicated technical committees
and working groups
• Standards represent the state-of-the-art and
are the result of a consensus
How can the industry participate in the standardisation
process?
• In CEN and ISO, experts are nominated by
their national “mirror group” • In the national “mirror group”, experts
• They shall express the position of their can represent their company
national committee

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The different types of standards

Test, measurement &


calculation standards
Product
standards At product (or
+ building element) level At building 10
Sometimes Specific to level
Applicable
tests methods
some to all
products products

“Vertical” TCs
(products TCs)
“Horizontal” TCs
Scope of today

Test, measurement &


calculation standards
Product
standards At product (or
+ building element) level At building 11
Sometimes Specific to level
Applicable
tests standards
some to all
products products

Vertical TCs

Horizontal TCs
Why it is crucial to participate in writing standards?

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Because we can:
 Anticipate requirements and assessment method in advance of standard publication – be ready on time
 Make trials to ensure that proposed assessment method is appropriate and realistic – give feedback
 Counterbalance testing laboratories who often have limited knowledge of industrial realities
 Ensure a level playing field with competitors… for instance Insulation : more than 30 different industries
 EU regulations don’t give technical details. Standards are the technical documents that complement them
Which horizontal TCs are relevant for us?
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products

CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components

CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and of buildings

CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings


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CEN/TC 169: Light and lighting

CEN/TC 250: Structural Eurocodes

CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works

CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of release of dangerous substances

CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings

CEN/TC 442: Building Information Modelling (BIM)


Information flow

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Saint-Gobain
interested
parties in
countries
How to disseminate the information?
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products

CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components

CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and of buildings

CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings


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CEN/TC 169: Light and lighting

CEN/TC 250: Structural Eurocodes

CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works

CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of release of dangerous substances

CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings

CEN/TC 442: Building Information Modelling (BIM)


How to disseminate the information?
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products

CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components

Saint-Gobain
CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements andGroup existing
of buildings

CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings Saint-Gobain group will be created soon


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CEN/TC 169: Light and lighting

CEN/TC 250: Structural Eurocodes

CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works

CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of release of dangerous substances

CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings

CEN/TC 442: Building Information Modelling (BIM)


Example #1 with acoustic Group of Expert ( TC 126
and TC 43)
• Covers CEN TC 126 and ISO TC 43

• leaders: Pascal Ozouf, Pierre Leroy and Marc Rehfeld (as consultant for
glass)
• Strong binding CEN and ISO => 44/55 standards are “EN ISO” standards
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• Why do we follow those committees:


• Strong impact on all our products / systems
• Current work on impact noise,
• Risk for light construction if low frequencies are not taken correctly into
account
Example #1 with acoustic Group of Expert

Members :
All SG interested parties from:
France, Central R and D, Germany,
Sweden, Turkey, Central mkg, UK….
Open to more 18

Helpfull for people involved in


standardization work at national level

2 documents were provided: Short version


and long version
Standardization work and lobbying activities
Example #2 new Fire Safety Group in Central Team

• Very soon a new transversal group of Experts ( leader Martin)…


• Fire safety - Certification- standardization work in CEN TC 127
• Probably a first physcial seminar this year
• This group of experts does not focus on standardization only!

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CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings

• Members for Saint-Gobain active in CEN: Martin Vo, Wiktor Drazkiewicz, Jean-Luc Pauli, Christophe
Lemerle
• Coordinator : Martin Vo
• Low level of collaboration with ISO/TC92 => 5/92 standards are “EN ISO” standards
• Main topics: resistance to fire and reaction to fire in CEN
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• Resistance to fire: impact on our high added value products/systems


• Reaction to fire: impact on all our products + defend non combustibility MW
Many task groups here Martin Vo
Example TC 127
High activity here –many task
groups Martin and Wiktor

Martin Vo

JL Pauli+ support from LDC team

JL Pauli- Martin Vo
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Just a light
monitoring. We This WG Light monitoring here with the
are not active in has not help of allies ( Eurima for
this WG started yet instance)- easy to follow
Examples from TC 127 WG1 or WG2

• EN 1363-1 (§7.2.2) Standard Supporting


Construction
• Today only 3 existing type : High Density Rigid,
Low Density Rigid, Mortar, Flexible Construction
• To enlarge the number of Standard Supporting
Construction
• Timber construction?
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• Glazed construction?

• prEN 1364-6 : fire resistance tests for non-


loadbearing elements – Cavity Barriers
• This prEN is based on a national test-method
standard (ASFP TGD 19) from the UK where this
kind of product is always part of the conception of
the building within masonry façades,
ventilated/non-ventilated façades
One other example: continuous glowing combustion
Temp ?
• EN 16733 has been created more than 5 years After 6
ago (How to assess Continuous Glowing
Combustion on insulation material)
hours

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• Two developments in progress in CEN TC 127:


- Amendment of EN 16733 for a better reliability of the testing method →
no real impact on our products!

- A new EN that describes DIAP Rules for this method : example I did
test on SW ( density 80kg/m3, binder content 6,fiber orientation type A,
thickness 30 mm..) . Can I use this test report for my second SW
product ( 90 kg, binder content 6.5 etcetera) → high impact on
certification costs
TC 89 (CEN) and TC 163 (ISO)
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products
???
CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components

CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of buildingSG groupand


elements existing
of buildings

CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings


SG Group created soon 24

CEN/TC 169: Light and lighting

CEN/TC 250: Structural Eurocodes

CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works

CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of release of dangerous substances

CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings

CEN/TC 442: Building Information Modelling (BIM)


TC 89 (CEN) and TC 163 (ISO)

• No existing official group ( in the past yearly seminar)


• No real coordinator today - many different subjects

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• Different experts from Central are involved


CEN/TC 89 & ISO/TC 163: Thermal performance of
buildings and building components
• Members for Saint-Gobain in CEN and ISO: Jean-Luc Pauli and Anne Minne + other experts from
CRIR and SGR

• Strong binding CEN and ISO => 56/77 standards are “EN ISO” standards within TC 89

• Why do we follow:
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• revision of all standards related to the EPB requirements and EP certificates (revision mostly
under CEN lead)
• Lots of working group dealing with hygrothermal properties for insulating material and Glass
• Also developments regarding durability of products for airtightness
• Hot plate-hot box methods ( new material since the 90ties)
• Around 20 WGs ( 6 to 7 are relevant for SG)
In CEN

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Example: CEN TC 89 WG8 followed by CRIR

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example of topic: how


to improve lambda
measurement for VIP,
aerogel, or moist
material

Lea Kerbellec from CRIR in WG8


TC 89 other example ( relevant topics)

Guillaume
Pandraud SGR
Compiègne in two
working groups

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CEN TC 89 still..

How to assess durability of tapes and mastics

(airtightness management)
Johanna Wolf
→ Draft for vote soon from Central
team ATMM
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Revision EN ISO 13788- recent publication
of new version
November
2022

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Simplified calculation methods to determine the minimum temperature that must be observed on a
wall to ensure that no mould development will be possible – also helpful to measure the risk of
condensation into the mass of the element ( due to vapour diffusion in the element)
Former version was from 2001
In ISO

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ISO/TC163/SC2: standard on adaptive façade (1/2)

• ISO/FDIS 52016-3: Energy performance of buildings — Energy needs for heating and cooling, internal
temperatures and sensible and latent heat loads —
Part 3: Calculation procedures regarding adaptive building envelope elements
• Based on ISO 52016-1:2017, Energy performance of buildings — Energy needs for heating and
cooling, internal temperatures and sensible and latent heat loads — Part 1: Calculation procedures

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• The types of adaptive building envelope elements covered are:
• Building envelope elements with dynamic solar shading
• Building envelope elements with chromogenic glazing
• Building envelope elements with an actively ventilated cavity
ISO/TC163/SC2: standard on adaptive façade (2/2)

Advantages:
• The calculation of the effect of dynamic glazing will valorise active
products in facades
Saint-Gobain products that will benefit of it:
• Sage Glass (electrochromic glass)
• Insulating glass containing venetian blinds
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Risks:
• Conventional blinds (external
or internal) will also take
benefit of this standard
Saint-Gobain products at risk:
• Solar control coated glass
Conclusion reg CEN TC 89 and ISO TC 163

• Lots of topics- very time consuming


• No existing platform like we have for ACOUSTIC or FIRE
• Last SG seminar was in 2019 (in 2022 for Glass)
• Mainly covered by SGR and CRIR

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→ Need a leader
→ We have no clue regarding what standards are really used by Saint-Gobain
TC 371
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products

!!!!!!!
CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components

CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and ofSG
buildings
Group
CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings SG Group
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CEN/TC 169: Light and lighting

CEN/TC 250: Structural Eurocodes

CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works

CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of release of dangerous substances

CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings

CEN/TC 442: Building Information Modelling (BIM)


CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings

• Members for Saint-Gobain: indirectly through EURIMA organization / through national mirror groups

• Why do we follow:

• Saint-Gobain products can significantly improve the Energy Performance of Buildings


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• This improvement will allow for the decrease of the carbon footprint of the building

• The benefit of our products shall be correctly taken into account in EPB standards
• We need to adapt our products to future evolution of the standards
CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings

Scope of CEN/TC371:
• Focus only on the Energy Performance of Buildings (EPB)
• Ensures the development, alignment and maintenance of a coherent set of standards for the
determination of the EPB
Two main tasks:
1. Developing standards at overarching EPB level
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2. Coordinating the activities of related and specialized TCs

CEN/TC 89 CEN/TC 228


Thermal perf. of buildings Heating & cooling systems

CEN/TC 371

CEN/TC 156 CEN/TC 169


Ventilation Light and lighting
CEN/TC 247
Building automation
CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings

Standards prepared by CEN/TC 371:


Reference Title
Energy Performance of Buildings - Basic Principles for the set of EPB standards
CEN/TS 16628
(in revision)
Energy Performance of Buildings - Detailed Technical Rules for the set of EPB- 39
CEN/TS 16629
standards (in revision)
Energy performance of buildings - Overarching EPB assessment –
EN ISO 52000-1
Part 1: General framework and procedures
Energy performance of buildings - Overarching EPB assessment –
CEN ISO/TR 52000-2
Part 2: Explanation and justification of ISO 52000-1
Energy performance of buildings - Determination and reporting of Primary Energy
EN 17423
Factors (PEF) and CO2 emission coefficient - General Principles, Module M1-7
Energy Performance of Buildings - Operational rating - Requirements for assessing
No number yet
Operational rating (new - drafting stage)
CEN/TC169, light and lighting

• Mainly on lighting devices and technologies


• But WG 11 deals with daylighting  impact on glazing
• Assessment at building or room levels
• Activities followed by Wirich Freppel (SGR Compiègne)

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TC 350
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products

CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components


????
CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and of
Group ofexperts
buildings

CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings Group of experts


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CEN/TC 169: Light and lighting Communication to Glass


CEN/TC 250: Structural Eurocodes

CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works

CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of release of dangerous substances

CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings

CEN/TC 442: Building Information Modelling (BIM)


CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works

• Members for Saint-Gobain: Pascal Eveillard + M Medard


• Communication made by Sustainable Construction team ( Pascal Eveillard ‘s team) to countries
• Low level of collaboration with ISO/TC 59/SC 17 => only 1 “EN ISO” standard on 13 published

• Why do we follow:
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• Because Saint-Gobain wants to become the worldwide leader in light and sustainable construction
• Increasing importance of circular economy, not only in our values but also for our clients and for
the planet
• Because SG is promoting the whole life cycle approach
• Because lots of new things coming from the European Commission
TC 351
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products

??????
CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components

CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and ofplatform
buildings

CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings platform


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CEN/TC 169: Light and lighting

CEN/TC 250: Structural Eurocodes

CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works Sust Construc Team


CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of release of dangerous substances

CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings ??????


CEN/TC 442: Building Information Modelling (BIM)
CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of
release of REGULATED dangerous substances
• Members for Saint-Gobain: Jean-Luc Pauli + ext consultant

• Why do we follow:
• Because we are talking about REGULATED substances here( strong connection with ECHA)
• To anticipate future changes in assessment methods and adapt our R&D efforts
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• Because this TC also addresses circular economy stakes ( re used- sorting in landfill..)

• Do we have an official group of expert in SG with regular meetings?:


• YES and NO ..;but this will be the case soon . Declaration of emission of regulated dangerous
substances will become mandatory after 2026 in the CE marking in some countries . So there will
be some internal communication on this . The other topics (waste-radiation) are dedicated to a
small group of people mainly in SGR
Example TC 351 All EN methods to assess
leaching- voted in 2021

How to assess
Ammonia emission
for instance voted in
2021

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Evaluation of Radiation
from construction Work in progress ( how to detect
products voted in 2022 Just
definitions presence of asbestos)– no vote up
(for EURATOM directive) to now see next slide
see next slide
Example #1 from TC 351( radiation) voted in 2022

Important for
Stone wool
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Example #2 from TC 351 : asbestos in waste (1/2)
Important for
Gypsum - Recycling

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Asbestos ( 2/2)

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CEN/TC250: structural Eurocodes

• Huge technical committee with 11 sub-committees and 66 active working groups.


• We follow only:
• CEN/TC250/SC5 : Timber and fire  one expert from Ladenburg( Mattia Tiso)
• CEN/TC250/SC11: Eurocode on glass structures  Anne Minne and Pierrick Florin

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Final picture
Specific to Applicable to all
At building level
some products products

??????
CEN/TC 89 (+ ISO/TC 163): Thermal performance of buildings and building components

CEN/TC 126 (+ ISO/TC 43): Acoustic properties of building elements and of


Group ofexperts
buildings

CEN/TC127: Fire safety in buildings Group of experts being created


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CEN/TC 169: Light and lighting

CEN/TC 250: Structural Eurocodes

CEN/TC 350: Sustainability of construction works Sust Construc Team regular info
CEN/TC 351: Construction Products - Assessment of release of dangerous substances
Communication soon
CEN/TC 371: Energy performance of buildings ??????
CEN/TC 442: Building Information Modelling (BIM)
Some subjects (BS) are discussed in other clubs

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Building science in CEN/TC88 – insulation

Product WGs Tests, calculation and measurement WGs


• WG 3: Mineral wool • WG 1 : how to assess other than
• WG 4: EPS insulating properties performance ( ex
• WG 5: XPS mechanics, mould growth
• WG 6: PU
• WG 2 :Some fire testing dedicated to
• WG7 8 9
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• WG 10-1 min wool for HVAC and industry assess durability of performances for
• WG10-2 to WG10.8: EPS, PU, CG for insulation
industry
• WG15-1 min wool blowing wool
• WG15.2 to WG15.7 ….
• WG17: wood fibers
• WG19: ….
• WG 23 vegetal fibers
One example « mould growth evaluation »

• Will be published beg of 2024

• Final vote in progress

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One example « mould growth evaluation »
Scope This document describes a laboratory test method to determine the
susceptibility of thermal insulation products against mould growth under
specified climatic conditions. The method is applicable to both factory-made
products and in situ formed products. Factory made products include
panels, mats, and rolls. NOTE: In situ formed products are usually those
that are delivered loose and installed by blowing-in, pouring, or spraying-on,
eventually using water and/or binder, whether or not they are also treated 54

using additives.
The test shall be carried out with one of the conditions described in Table 1.
This test method determines the susceptibility of a thermal insulation
material to mould growth, but it does not determine the suitability for use in a
given design (wall, roof, etc.).
One example « mould growth evaluation »

Principle The test specimens are prepared from insulating material test
samples and are sterilized, then inoculated with a defined quantity of
fungal spores.

The test specimens are then incubated under specific conditions of


temperature and relative humidity. 55

At the end of the test, the fungal growth is assessed by visual


observation and, where appropriate, by determining the number of
CFU(colony-forming units (CFU)) present. The presence or absence of
fungal growth makes it possible to rule on the susceptibility of the tested
product to mould growth at a given climatic condition
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Building science in CEN/TC129 – Glass in building

Product WGs Tests, calculation and measurement WGs


• WG 1: basic glass • WG 8: design of glass
• WG 2: pre-stressed glass • WG 9: photometric characteristics
• WG 3: laminated glass • WG10: acoustic
• WG 4: insulating glass • WG11: fire
• WG 5: mirrors and painted glass • WG12: assembly rules*) 58

• WG 6: coated glass • WG13: safety


• WG 7: glass blocks and pavers • WG14: security
• WG18: films and filmed glass • WG16: bonded glazing*)
• WG19: acid etched & sand blasted glass • WG17: sustainability
• WG20: dangerous substances
Contain durability test methods • WG21: BIM
*) = installation rules
Example of « vertical » building science: BIPV
BIPV = Building Integrated PhotoVoltaic

Solar factor of ordinary glazing Solar factor of photovoltaic glazing (BIPV)

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g1 = solar g2 = solar
factor factor BIPV

g2 < g1, but how much?


Solar radiation used for electricity production depends on the PV
Example of « vertical » building science: BIPV
Complex topic => collaboration with working groups of other technical committees, namely:
• IEC = International Electrotechnical Committee
• ISO (here, the sister committee of CEN/TC129)
Standard still at drafting stage, enquiry expected in 2024.

ISO/TC160
WG9 60

BIPV

IEC/TC82 CEN/TC129
JWG11 WG9
PV panels Photometry
Measurement
& calculation
method
FAQ

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Exemple of FAQ :The role of the national mirror group

The national mirror groups are doing the following tasks:


• Nominate experts to the CEN and/or ISO Technical Committees;
• Send proposals and inputs during the redaction of the standard;
• Make comments during the enquiry;
• Vote at the final vote stage;
• Decide to maintain, revise or withdraw the standard during the 5-year periodical review. 62

In addition, mirror groups are often the standardisation committee writing the national standards
complementing the EN or ISO standards (installation rules, guidance, selection of a type of product by
type of application, …)
Exemple of FAQ :BS community as a solution to share
info..

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Exemple of FAQ :delta between standardization and
regulation? Do you understand the difference ?

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annexes

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