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 Deleted member 1100 ·  Dec 4, 2019

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Dec 4, 2019  #1

D I made a looksmax plan a couple of weeks ago, but it was just random
and mostly irrelevant failos that I had. After taking the time to actually
morph one of my pictures I understood which features I actually need
to correct, so now I'm able to make a real plan on what I have to do to
fix them instead of wasting time and money on things that won't
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increase my PSL in real life, reaching something near my true potential
while at the same time looking natural as possible and without any
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crazy surgeries (thank God the only surgery I'll need in my life to
Posts: 12,943 looksmax is canthopexy and maybe chin implant, the last one will
depend on what I can expect from fat transfer since I'll need to advance
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probably 5mm on the lower part of the chin and about 3 on the upper
part)

This is just a brief of what I'll do, enough to give me a North of the
methods and products that I'll need. It may also help those who have
similar problems, but if you want to know what are your own failos and
need a morph, PM more prices jew.jpg

I'll try to do all these things in 2 months btw

Skin Blemishes | Forehead Lines & Nasolabial Fold | Hairline


| Thicker Eyebrows | Pigmentar Dark Circles​

Skin Blemishes

Although I don't have many blemishes especially because I've never


had acne in excess I still want to make my skin as clear as possible.
The blemishes on my face are mostly tiny dark spots, probably from
the previous acnes that I had, red skin around the nose alas (too oily
and excess of whiteheads).

Prevention:
35$ - Biosole Fluid FPS 90 Sunscreen - Ada Tina

Treatment:
15$ - AHA 30% + BHA 2% Peeling Solution - The Ordinary
30$ - Effaclar Acne Treatment System - La Roche-Posay
500$ Session (1-4) - Fractional CO2 laser (If needed, most likely it
won't)

TOTAL SPENDING: 80$ - 2080$

Forehead Lines & Nasolabial Fold

I want to reduce to zero the forehead lines and treat the wrinkly
nasolabial folds, most likely it doesn't require volume increase due to
fat volume loss.

Treatment:
80$ - Pure C 40 Ultra - Ada Tina
200$ - Hyaluronic Acid Filler

TOTAL SPENDING: 80$ - 280$

Hairline

I can already see the vellus hairs that will give me at least a NW0.5, so
far my current treatment has stopped most of my hair loss (rubbing my
hair after 3 days without washing it and I've only lost ~20 hairs, it used
to be 2-3x more than this)

Hairloss:
15$ - Minoxidil - TrichoSol
20$ - Extra Virgin Coconut Oil - Copra
10$ - Rosemary Oil
05$ - Rosemary Tea
15$ - Anti-Dandruff Shampoo - Nizoral
10$ - Zinc Glycinate - Now Foods
25$ - Magnesium Glycinate - KAL
15$ - Omega 3 Fish Oil

TOTAL SPENDING: 195$

Hair Regrowth:
150$ - Ultima A7 Professional Microneedling Pen - Dr. Pen
600$ - Laser Hair Growth System - iRestore
15$ - Minoxidil - TrichoSol*
10 min - Scalp Massage

TOTAL SPENDING: 750$

Thicker Eyebrows

15$ - Minoxidil - TrichoSol*

TOTAL SPENDING: 0$

Pigmentar Dark Circles

500$ Session (1-4) - Fractional CO2 laser (If needed)

TOTAL SPENDING: 0$

TOTAL: 1.150-3.350$

Under Eye Support | Zygo prominence | Sharper Gonial |


Chin Prominence​

This area will only increase a little bit on my PSL tbh, like 20-30% of the
entire looksplan, still worth doing it

Under Eye Support

Filler Hyaluronic Acid - 200$


Fat Transfer - ???$

Zygo Prominence

Filler Hyaluronic Acid - 200$


Fat Transfer - ???$

Sharper Gonial

Filler Hyaluronic Acid - 400$


Fat Transfer - ???$

Chin Prominence

Filler Hyaluronic Acid - 400$


Fat Transfer - ???$
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Dec 4, 2019  #2

D where is the plan to rape your oneitis at her community church

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Dec 4, 2019 OP  #3

D obesecel said: 

where is the plan to rape your oneitis at her community church

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Kraken I won't need that once I fix the first half of my looksmax plan
.
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@Rasputin, check my current plan
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Dec 4, 2019  #4

For eyebrows and eyelashes use bimatoprost.

Start with botox for forehead wrinkles. Filler is used in forehead only if
botox fails. Filler is good for N/L folds

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Dec 4, 2019  #5

Don't forget to actually go outside and test each looksmax to see if it's
done the trick. When you start getting IOIs from attractive women it's
mission accomplished IMO

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Dec 4, 2019 OP  #6

D OldRooster said: 

For eyebrows and eyelashes use bimatoprost.

Start with botox for forehead wrinkles. Filler is used in forehead only if botox
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fails. Filler is good for N/L folds
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Bimatoprost can fuck up your supraorbital fat pad, not worth tbh, I've
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been using Vitamin C serum and moisturizer daily, so the ethanol on
Reputation: 28,973 the minoxidil won't fuck up my skin.

I'll try to use the Vit C 40% for the forehead lines first, they are small but
I want to prevent them from getting stronger over time:
Dec 4, 2019  #7

Deliciadecu said: 

Bimatoprost can fuck up your supraorbital fat pad

It causes orbital fat shrinkage. The effect reverses after patients stop
Stingray
Neuroatypical using it. I was using it and got fantastic gains until I realised this.

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Why no retin-a OP? It's effective against wrinkles and blemishes
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Dec 4, 2019 OP  #8

D Stingray said: 

It causes orbital fat shrinkage. The effect reverses after patients stop using
it. I was using it and got fantastic gains until I realised this.

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Why no retin-a OP? It's effective against wrinkles and blemishes
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Did you notice any increase in thickness or it just made the hairs
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longer?
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I forgot to put it on the list tbh

I'll probably get it some in DECIEM

Dec 4, 2019  #9

D Stingray said: 

It causes orbital fat shrinkage. The effect reverses after patients stop using
it. I was using it and got fantastic gains until I realised this.

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Why no retin-a OP? It's effective against wrinkles and blemishes
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Deliciadecu said: 
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Did you notice any increase in thickness or it just made the hairs longer?
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I forgot to put it on the list tbh

I'll probably get it some in DECIEM


Deliciadecu said: 

Bimatoprost can fuck up your supraorbital fat pad, not worth tbh, I've been
using Vitamin C serum and moisturizer daily, so the ethanol on the minoxidil
won't fuck up my skin.

I'll try to use the Vit C 40% for the forehead lines first, they are small but I
want to prevent them from getting stronger over time:

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wtf is orbital fat im -66373 iq, explain

Dec 4, 2019 OP  #10

D kamil said: 

wtf is orbital fat im -66373 iq, explain

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Dec 4, 2019  #11

Deliciadecu said: 

After taking the time to actually morph one of my pictures I understood which
features I actually need to correct

Dios
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I'm really, really fucking dumb, I didn't think of that one... You have a
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good plan, especially for the hairloss, although I would add Red Light
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Actually I'll have to thank you, you made me inspired to do this for
myself.
Dec 4, 2019 OP  #12

D Dios said: 

I'm really, really fucking dumb, I didn't think of that one... You have a good
plan, especially for the hairloss, although I would add Red Light Therapy to it
too, for more density and tensile strength hair.
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Actually I'll have to thank you, you made me inspired to do this for myself.
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I added the red light therapy for the hair
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600$ - Laser Hair Growth System - iRestore

I'll have to invest in this helmet though, I don't trust those cheap red
lights tbh

Minox + microneedling + red light + supplement to hairmax (Luminus


Hair) will give a huge boost on my hair regrowth, as long as the vellus
hair that are covering my temples get thicker and 1cm longer I'm fine,
I'll get a buzz cut anyway

Dec 4, 2019  #13

D Love these threads. good luck op

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Dec 4, 2019  #14

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Dec 4, 2019  #15

D Deliciadecu said: 

I made a looksmax plan a couple of weeks ago, but it was just random and
mostly irrelevant failos that I had. After taking the time to actually morph one
of my pictures I understood which features I actually need to correct, so now
Deleted member 2933
I'm able to make a real plan on what I have to do to fix them instead of
Kraken
wasting time and money on things that won't increase my PSL in real life,
Joined: Aug 24, 2019 reaching something near my true potential while at the same time looking
natural as possible and without any crazy surgeries (thank God the only
Posts: 8,386 surgery I'll need in my life to looksmax is canthopexy and maybe chin implant,
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th l t ill d d h tI tf f tt f i I'll d
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Sliding genio 1200$ here, come.

Deliciadecu said: 

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Ogre

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Dec 4, 2019  #16

Why do you choose fillers opposed to custom implants?

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Dec 4, 2019 OP  #17

D SirGey said: 

Sliding genio 1200$ here, come.

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Kraken The problem is:
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1- I hate surgeries
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rotting
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Dec 4, 2019  #18

D Deliciadecu said: 

The problem is:

1- I hate surgeries
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2- Pos, Imagine having to stay weeks at home doing nothing, just rotting
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Dec 4, 2019  #19

Deliciadecu said: 

Did you notice any increase in thickness or it just made the hairs longer?

Oh yes longer and thicker. It works fast too. I'm considering going back
Stingray
Neuroatypical to it despite the sides because castor oil is doing fuck all for my lashes

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Dec 4, 2019 OP  #20

D Stingray said: 

Oh yes longer and thicker. It works fast too. I'm considering going back to it
despite the sides because castor oil is doing fuck all for my lashes

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Kraken
Aren't the results permanent? I've read a bunch of studies on
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bimatoprost but I forgot if they are permanent or not.
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Why don't you use minox?
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Dec 4, 2019  #21

Deliciadecu said: 

Aren't the results permanent? I've read a bunch of studies on bimatoprost but
I forgot if they are permanent or not.

Stingray
Why don't you use minox?
Neuroatypical

Joined: Mar 2, 2019 No they reverse. Although it's not been studied much so definitely a
risk.
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Reputation: 2,369 I do use minox on my eyebrows. It works but is slow to grow hair in
new places.

Dec 4, 2019  #22

How old are you?

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Dec 4, 2019  #23

D Deliciadecu said: 

2- Pos, Imagine having to stay weeks at home doing nothing, just rotting

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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ I do this all time JFL AT MY LIFE
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Dec 4, 2019  #24

Unreal all of the cope stuff you take for hairloss when you can just
admit you're wrong and take a $30 bottle of fin that lasts 2 months and
has 10x the more positive impact on your hairless.

OldRooster said: 
KEy21
Godly Figure For eyebrows and eyelashes use bimatoprost.
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Start with botox for forehead wrinkles. Filler is used in forehead only if botox
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Does bimatoprost thin the upper eyelid fat?

I used it for 4ish months and didn't notice much but my eyes started
seeing things once I heard about that side effect that doctors often talk
about.

I assume you used alldaychemist?

I'mme and justanothergymcell

Dec 4, 2019  #25

D KEy21 said: 

Unreal all of the cope stuff you take for hairloss when you can just admit
you're wrong and take a $30 bottle of fin that lasts 2 months and has 10x the
more positive impact on your hairless.
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Does bimatoprost thin the upper eyelid fat?
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I used it for 4ish months and didn't notice much but my eyes started seeing
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side effect that doctors often talk about.

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He is BR, he buy things in any drug store.

Dec 4, 2019  #26

SirGey said: 

He is BR, he buy things in any drug store.

He will also most likely need more than 1 syringe for each of the spots
KEy21
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Dec 4, 2019 OP  #27

D KEy21 said: 

Unreal all of the cope stuff you take for hairloss when you can just admit
you're wrong and take a $30 bottle of fin that lasts 2 months and has 10x the
more positive impact on your hairless.
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Kraken
Does bimatoprost thin the upper eyelid fat?
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I used it for 4ish months and didn't notice much but my eyes started seeing
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side effect that doctors often talk about.
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JFL, I had minimal intentions of taking Fin, after you told me the side
effects you had you think I'll change my mind

I'd rather make more money and spend on more stuff than just take fin
for the sake of it's price. Except for canthopexy and maybe genio I don't
need any other surgeries, so I can invest my looksmax money on these
small stuffs, no problem

KEy21 said: 

He will also most likely need more than 1 syringe for each of the spots he's
looking at (other than the undereyes)

Maybe, on the zygos + under eye it will probably be 2 on each side tbh,
jaw it's certainly just one, I only need to make the gonial more sharper.
Chin, it's about 5mm of prominence, so probably 2 syringes as well
Reggina Calcio said: 

How old are you?

mid 20s
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Dec 4, 2019  #28

Deliciadecu said: 

JFL, I had minimal intentions of taking Fin, after you told me the side effects
you had you think I'll change my mind
KEy21
I'd rather make more money and spend on more stuff than just take fin for the
Godly Figure
sake of it's price. Except for canthopexy and maybe genio I don't need any
Joined: Oct 8, 2019 other surgeries, so I can invest my looksmax money on these small stuffs, no
problem
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Click to expand
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though. You could be like 50% or so of the people (It's definitely not 5%
like the company says) who don't experience any/minimal sides.

Once you see the vertex thin by even a millimeter, that's thousands of
dollars of cost down the drain if you ever want to move the hairline
forward to that point again.

But yeah, genie and canthoplexy is a good investment. You should do


all of those tbh, just be the best version of yourself possible. Every cent
you pour in, will be 100% worth it. Trust me.

forwardgrowth

Dec 4, 2019  #29

Deliciadecu said: 

forwardgrowth
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how do we control this fat?
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Dec 4, 2019 OP  #30

D forwardgrowth said: 

how do we control this fat?

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Dec 4, 2019 OP  #31

D I need 1.300$, 1150 for the first half looksmax and 150 for my
dickmaxing

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Dec 5, 2019  #32

Stingray said: 

It causes orbital fat shrinkage. The effect reverses after patients stop using
it. I was using it and got fantastic gains until I realised this.

OldRooster
Why no retin-a OP? It's effective against wrinkles and blemishes
Get off my lawn!

Joined: Jul 12, 2019 Interesting, but All the studies done on this are done as drops into the
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eye for Glaucoma patients, the original use of the Bimotroprost,
granted it is the same concentration, 0.03%. I did a search of 'latisse
Reputation: 11,778 periorbitopathy' and did not find any significant evidence it is a serious
problem for people applying to eye lashes or eye brows. Given how
millions of people have used it, you would think there would be entire
forums dicussing it if it were a significant problem. And So what?, you
apply to your eyebrows and you lose an insignificant amount of fat
under your brow which no one sees?
Dec 5, 2019  #33

@Deliciadecu are your prices actually reasonable? Somewhat debating


shooting you a pic as you seem like you know what you're talking about
imo.

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Dec 5, 2019  #34

lol at fillers for zygos prominence and undereye

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Dec 5, 2019 OP  #35

D LordNorwood said: 

@Deliciadecu are your prices actually reasonable? Somewhat debating


shooting you a pic as you seem like you know what you're talking about imo.

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Yes, I'll PM you the prices
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Dec 5, 2019  #36

Deliciadecu said: 

I made a looksmax plan a couple of weeks ago, but it was just random and
mostly irrelevant failos that I had. After taking the time to actually morph one
of my pictures I understood which features I actually need to correct, so now
reptiles
I'm able to make a real plan on what I have to do to fix them instead of
untermenschen macht frei
wasting time and money on things that won't increase my PSL in real life,
Joined: May 19, 2019 reaching something near my true potential while at the same time looking
natural as possible and without any crazy surgeries (thank God the only
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Halo high iq as fuck

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Dec 5, 2019  #37

D High IQ Plan.

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Dec 5, 2019  #38

R @Deliciadecu what dick maxxing are u gonna do boyo

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Dec 5, 2019 OP  #39

D RAITEIII said: 

@Deliciadecu what dick maxxing are u gonna do boyo

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Dec 5, 2019  #40

R Deliciadecu said: 

Spoiler

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Ure such a source of knowledge. Thx, saving for myself

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Dec 7, 2019 OP  #41

D I'm very high IQ

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Jan 10, 2020  #42

How has it been so far?

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Jan 10, 2020 OP  #43

D Bluepill said: 

How has it been so far?

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Kraken Skin texture got better
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eyebrows are starting to get thicker
Posts: 12,943 Hairline already has the vellus hair for a NW0, but they aren't long nor
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a NW0

Forehead lines, NS fold, and pigmentar dark circles still look the same.
I'll try niacinamide to see if it works well.

Skin coloration also got a bit better from the carrots btw

unfortunately fixing skin and hair is a long process

Jan 10, 2020  #44

Whats the difference between magnesium glycinate and citrate? Same


with zinc? Which one should I buy for hair?
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Jan 10, 2020  #45

D Deliciadecu said: 

Spoiler

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Kraken 60 + 80 (DHL),
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If the client results they have on their site is legit, I would be able to go from
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is it weird to wear it? and are the results permanent?

Jan 12, 2020 OP  #46

D PrettyBoyMaxxing said: 

is it weird to wear it? and are the results permanent?

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Kraken I don't use it, I've been doing manual clamping.
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80$ just the shipping, not worth in my case, at least for now
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Jan 12, 2020  #47

Deliciadecu said: 

I need 1.300$, 1150 for the first half looksmax and 150 for my dickmaxing

No dickmaxing for your 4 incher


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Jan 12, 2020  #48

i have had vellus hair for 2 years, they still have not thicken. they do
lengthen but no point if they are not visible

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Jan 13, 2020 OP  #49

D robtical said: 

i have had vellus hair for 2 years, they still have not thicken. they do lengthen
but no point if they are not visible

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Are you using anything to make them grow?
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Jan 13, 2020  #50

>minoxidil

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