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Phil14 Module9 Wernermarriage
Phil14 Module9 Wernermarriage
PHIL 14
Dr Champagne
Michael Warner’s discourse about gay marriage can be boiled down to the question of
whether people want a seat at the table or whether to get rid of “the table” altogether. Citing
Johnathan Rauch,
average, than other ways of living. Not mandatory, not good where everything
else is bad, but better: a general norm, rather than a personal taste,” (p. 110).
to steer gay men into monogamy and away from sex with other partners.
“Marriage would provide status to those who married and implicitly penalize
those who did not,” …careful not to make the case for marriage, but simply for
The gays wanting to have the same rights as heterosexual couples, thereby conforming to the
heteronormative standards of “normal”; it is “normal” for marriage to be between two people and
The problem being that the idea of “normal” is that it is dictated by the cultural majority;
what was “normal” at one point is typically no longer “normal.” The current view is the that of
the white heteronormative patriarchy, that is “normal” and anything other is inherently wrong;
anything other than heterosexuality is wrong, anything other than whiteness is wrong, etc. It
perpetuates the ideology that the heteronormative white patriarchy alone knows what is right and
wrong, what is good and bad, etc., not acknowledging that what is “good” and “right” typically
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serves the best interest of the patriarchy alone, disregarding anyone who is not a straight white
male.
When wondering who, if anyone, has the right to sex, it is first important to determine
who is eligible for “rights,” as for a large part of history the only people who had the “right” to
vote were free, land-owning white males: the heteronormative patriarchy; they alone had the
right to own property, to hold careers and earn money, to judge the actions of others as “right” or
“wrong.” The only people born with unalienable rights were white men, and logically that would
include the right to sex. The ideology that men are right, men are correct, men are infallible, has
led to the extreme view that men can do anything they want without fear of repercussions
As humanity moves towards a central grey area that does not necessarily prohibit or
promote but instead looks/thinks/questions critically, rather than balancing extremes, Srinivasan
poses the idea of not “right” or “wrong” sex, but rather simply “wanted” or “unwanted,”
merely wanted or unwanted. In this sense, the norms of sex are like the norms of
capitalist free exchange. What matters is not what conditions give rise to the
dynamic of supply and demand – why some people need to sell their labour while
others buy it – but only that both buyer and seller have agreed to transfer,”
This reduction of sex to an economic exchange: buyer and seller agreeing on a “product” and
“price.” In the heteronormative view, would males be the buyer, who simply takes/steals what
they want, regardless of the price? Or would they be sellers forcing their unwanted “products” on
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“customers”? The idea being that women should have equal bargaining power, not only over
their own “product” but also of what products they do and do not want; what is involved during
sex is different than wanting sex at all. The case is made for rape: laws prohibit it as many/most
people do not find pleasure in the act (the victims), however, there are those people who do
receive legitimate pleasure from raping someone and/or being raped. The question then becomes
not is rape “right” or “wrong,” rather is it “wanted” or “unwanted”; however, this brings up an
Srinivasan also cites Charles Fourier and his, “guaranteed ‘sexual minimum’, akin to a
guaranteed basic income, for every man and woman, regardless of age or infirmity…the social
service would be provided by an ‘amorous nobility’ who, Fourier said, ‘know how to subordinate
love to the dictates of honor.” Paralleling the rape ideology, this “amorous nobility” is the group
of people who want sex, not people who do not want sex; they would be consenting to possibly
non-consensual scenarios since some people desire “taking” sex. Whether the rape fetish would
continue in the presence of a guaranteed sexual minimum is not clear, as “subordinating…to the
dictates of honor” implies that these people would do absolutely anything asked/demanded of
them in favor of social welfare, meaning these could be the targets for rapists. The question truly
becomes: are we, as human beings, entitled to anything at all in the first place? People propose
social programs such as universal healthcare and universal basic income and public education
because people are entitled to a minimum standard of living in modern society, however this was
not the case for most of human history. These things are not “free,” they do cost money, time,
work, etc., and so where are the lines drawn between what people are and are not entitled to:
entity/process does not save the culture from the biology, instead leading to misunderstanding,
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misuse, mistreatment, etc. Who is entitled to what? Does anyone inherently have the right to
anything? Where is the line drawn of what we inherently do and do not deserve?