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Take a conversation from a TV show (Ai La Trieu Phu, for example).

a. Closely analyze the conversation and see who is more powerful in the conversation.

b. Do you agree or disagree with this power relation?

c. Do you expect any changes?

(Guideline: You may want to see who talks more. Who asks more questions? Who
changes the topic? Who uses more hedges? Who interrupts the other? and so on. If the
data you get is a video, or if you have accompanying pictures, you may also find clues
from the visual elements.)

Group 2:

1. Nguyễn Thị Minh Hằng

2. Nguyễn Thị Khánh Huyền

2. Nguyễn Phương Huyền

4. Nguyễn Diệu Linh

5. Trần Thị Xuân Mai

6. Nguyễn Thị Bích Ngọc

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Outline
I. Introduction:
1. About the two people
a. Marshall Bruce Mathers III, known professionally as Eminem: Brief
introduction, his living style and style of conversing
b. Stephen Colbert: Brief introduction, style of hosting and conversing
2. About the conversation
- What is it about?
- Where and when was it held?
- About the Discourse
II. Critical Discourse analysis
1. Power analysis (Talking time, Position while talking,...)
2. Conversation analysis (Interruption, Silence, Pace of speaking, Hedges used, …)
3. Visual elements in Analysis
4. Our opinion
a. Agree or disagree with the dominance of the power?
b. Expect Changes

5:51 - 8:51: (video đã cắt: 0:00-3:00) Khánh Huyền - Phương Huyền


E: Carpentry
SC: Mhm.
E: Sounds like it could be good. Mhm.
SC: Do you have one saying? Is it that? How old are you?
E: 42.
SC: 42. If you ever want to have a family and, you know, care for them while it's fun, and
obviously everybody should have something fun. They do. When they have time. You
should really have something. And this is just, this is, uh, nothing but your talent. This is an
older man talking to a younger man about what you're going to need to have in place ten
years from now.
SC: You need to think ten years down the line. Am I going to have a retirement account?
You just have to make plans for when the dream dies and dreams die. It happens. And fun is
fun.
E: I'm so confused right now. I'm trying to figure out if you're serious or if.
SC: I'm very serious. If you don't have a, uh, retirement account by the time you're 50,
you're dead in the water. There's nothing to be done at that point. You're a greeter at
Walmart at that point.
E: Yeah.
E, SC: No, I am Marshall.
SC: Children's toys are over that way. You're dead. You're going, why don't I listen to him?
E: No, …
SC: I listen. I, uh, understand this is probably important to you on a certain level. And you
probably told your friends, I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna be the guy who doesn't give up.
You told your parents. “Is this good enough for you, man?”
But there's a certain point you have to be humble and say, maybe it doesn't happen for you.
Maybe it doesn't happen for you. Marshall.
E: You really don't know? I mean, I put out like quite a few albums.
SC: I'm sure that feels good.
E, SC: It does. It does..
SC: Doesn't pay the rent.
E: Um, like, what, what would I know? I mean, it sort of does pay the rent.
SC: It pays the rent?
E: Yeah.
SC: Good. What have you done? What have you done? I mean. Cause if you're. And I
apologize right now. And I apologize.
( E says I’m serious, serious)
Uh, listen, I'm not trying to. I'd like to apologize if you're a bigger deal than I know about.
Here's the thing. These are all my research people. I want to know who you are. I just don't
know who you are.
E: That's fine.
SC: Okay, good. You seem pretty mad.
E: I'm not mad at all.
SC: Not mad at all. Okay, well, you were getting pretty angry a second ago.
E: I think I just look angry.
SC: Yeah. Well, that's good. That works for rap.
E: Yeah.
SC: So you've done some stuff. You've got an album, you, feat you've featured on
somebody you featured with people
E: I featured on quite a few somebody.
SC: Okay, good.
E: So you're getting angry again. No, no, not at all. I'm just trying to figure out why I'm
here. Well, I thought I was.
SC: As far as I know, somebody's got a project to push on only in monroe, and I will do my
best to do it. Now, since you evidently, uh, only want to do that.

a. Power Analysis:
- Talk Time: Stephen Colbert consistently dominates the conversation, speaking for
longer stretches without interruption. Eminem occasionally interjects with shorter responses
or questions, but Colbert's verbosity gives him more control over the dialogue.
However, Eminem's interventions are impactful and carry weight. Eminem's statements
often prompt reactions and further discussion from Colbert. Eminem expresses confusion
about Colbert's seriousness, indicating a lack of clarity regarding the tone and direction of
the conversation. In addition, focusing on assertion of identity and recognition, Eminem
asserts his identity by stating his name, "No, I am Marshall," reclaiming his persona amidst
Colbert's hypothetical scenario. Colbert acknowledges Eminem's identity but continues to
discuss broader themes related to perseverance and humility.

Colbert validates Eminem's accomplishments, acknowledging that releasing albums "feels


good." However, he swiftly dismisses this validation by stating, "Doesn't pay the rent,"
implying the need for financial stability beyond artistic satisfaction.
Eminem counters by asserting that his music does pay the rent, highlighting a divergence in
perspectives regarding the financial success of his career.

Colbert apologizes for potentially underestimating Eminem's significance, indicating a shift


in tone and recognition of Eminem's stature. Eminem accepts the apology, signaling a
willingness to continue engaging in the conversation despite initial confusion and
skepticism.
Colbert perceives Eminem as angry, which Eminem dismisses, attributing his demeanor to
appearance rather than emotion. Colbert humorously acknowledges Eminem's disposition as
fitting for rap, suggesting an alignment with rap's expressive and confrontational aesthetics.

b. Agree/Disagree with Power Relation:


- Agree:
+ Eminem's assertiveness and proactive engagement in steering the conversation
towards topics he finds relevant suggest a degree of control and influence. Despite
Colbert's role as the interviewer, Eminem's ability to shape the discourse and assert
his viewpoints demonstrates his power within the interaction. His confidence and
authority in expressing his perspective signal a significant degree of conversational
power, challenging the notion that Colbert holds absolute authority in guiding the
discussion.

- Disagree:
+ While Eminem demonstrates assertiveness and attempts to redirect the conversation
at times, Colbert's role as the interviewer and host remains predominant. Colbert
initiates and directs the majority of the conversation, setting the agenda and guiding
the flow of discussion. Eminem's assertiveness, while notable, does not negate
Colbert's authority as the primary facilitator of the interview. Thus, despite Eminem's
attempts to assert himself, the overall power dynamic still heavily favors Colbert in
this interaction.

c. Expectations for Changes:


- Given the structured format of the interview and Colbert's established control, significant
changes in the power dynamic are unlikely. Eminem may assert himself more assertively as
the conversation progresses, especially if prompted by Colbert's inquiries or remarks.
However, Colbert will likely maintain his authority as the interviewer and guide the overall
trajectory of the dialogue. Any shifts in power would likely be subtle and momentary rather
than a fundamental restructuring of the interaction.

8:51:11-51: Linh - Nụ (video đã cắt: 3:00-6:00)


3:00-4:30
Interviewer: All alright, so you’ve got a movie, and it's called Southpaw
Eminem: Southpaw
Interviewer: And I'll do the introductions. thank you. Southpaw and it stars Jake Gyllenthal
Eminem: and Jake Gyllenhaal.
Interviewer: what?
Eminem:Jake Gyllenhaal.
Interviewer: Fine. It's Jake Gyllenhaal with two a's. And you produced it and you did the
soundtrack for. And I believe we have a clip.
Interviewer: I'm sorry. I apologize. There's also a cat doctor who does a show on the cable
access show, and I think that was the cat doctor's footage. That's pretty good, though. Is that
anything like that in the movie?
Eminem: I mean, that was the song...
Interviewer: Okay Do we have the right tape? It should say, It should probably. There's a
VHS tape up that says the right clip or Gillian Thai or something on the side. Can we play
that?

a. Closely analyze the conversation and see who is more powerful in the conversation.
In this conversation, Eminem seems to hold more power.
He corrects the interviewer's pronunciation of Jake Gyllenhaal's name, indicating his
familiarity and authority over the movie and its production.
he clarifies that the clip shown was actually from his song, asserting his knowledge and
involvement in the soundtrack.
The interviewer, on the other hand, appears somewhat flustered and confused, as indicated
by their mistaken mention of a cat doctor's footage and their struggle to find the correct tape.
=> Despite speaking less, Eminem still asserts his power through his corrections and
clarifications. Quality of speech can sometimes outweigh quantity in determining power
dynamics. Eminem's corrections and clarifications demonstrate his control and authority
over the subject matter, even if he doesn't speak as much as the interviewer. Additionally,
Eminem's status as the producer and creator of the movie and its soundtrack inherently
grants him a position of power in the conversation, regardless of the number of words he
speaks.
b. Do you agree or disagree with this power relation?
I agree with the assessment that Eminem holds more power in this conversation. As the
producer of the movie and the creator of its soundtrack, he possesses insider knowledge and
authority over the project. His corrections and clarifications demonstrate his confidence and
control in the conversation.

c. Do you expect any changes?


I don't expect significant changes in the power dynamic unless the interviewer gains a better
understanding of the movie and its components. If the interviewer becomes more informed
and prepared, they may be able to engage with Eminem on a more equal footing. However,
unless this occurs, Eminem is likely to maintain his dominant position in the conversation.

4:30 - 6:00

Stephen Colbert: That was great. Now did you, you wrote all that music?
Eminem: Yeah, I mean that song.
Stephen Colbert: Yeah, that's a beautiful song.
Eminem: Thanks
Stephen Colbert: It worries me a little bit though. Can I talk about, can I spit some of your
lyrics back at you? And I'm using, am I using that term correctly? Spit?
Eminem: Yeah.
Stephen Colbert: Okay, good, all right. The song is called “Phenomenal”, and it goes a little
bit like this, okay. By the way, Jake is jacked in that. Is he always like that, or did he get
jacked for that movie? He's super jacked.
Eminem: Yeah. I'm not sure, you have to ask him.
Stephen Colbert: He's really fit. That's just not, that's not what he's normally like. You have
to know that.
Eminem: They actually-
Stephen Colbert: You're the producer of the movie, you have to know that he didn't look
like that beforehand, right when you hired him.
Eminem: They put his head on my body.
Stephen Colbert: Really? You worked out?
Eminem: Yeah, a little bit.
Stephen Colbert: Come on, flex on, flex on, flex off. Give me a little, give me a little action.
Eminem: Oh, I mean you really can't, it's really nothing. That’s is nothing
Stephen Colbert: Come on, man. Do you want to go? Are you about to? Are you about to
go?
Eminem: Flex.
Stephen Colbert: Were we about to go?
Eminem: Not unless you wanted to. I mean
Stephen Colbert: I don’t want to, but I will not back down if you were about to go. I’m not
backing down. You are in my house.
Eminem: If you were about
Stephen Colbert: You come into my house. You come into my house and you flex up on me
and you expect me to back down? You are sadly mistaken.

Conversation Analysis (Colbert vs. Eminem)


a. Power Dynamics:
- Stephen Colbert: Holds more power in the conversation due to his role as the interviewer
on his show, The Colbert Report. This gives him control over the flow of the conversation
and the topics discussed.
- Eminem: Despite being the interviewee,Eminem holds some power due to his celebrity
status.
- Question Asking: Colbert asks more questions, directing the conversation.
- Topic Shifting: Colbert changes the topic from the song to the music video and then to a
challenge. The conversation shifts to the music video for "Phenomenal" which features Jake
Gyllenhaal. Stephen Colbert jokes that Eminem must be really fit because Jake Gyllenhaal
looks very muscular in the video. Eminem reveals they used special effects to put Jake
Gyllenhaal's head on his body
- Hedges: Eminem uses hedges like "you know" and "I mean" more frequently, softening
his statements
- Interruptions: Colbert might have more due to his control over the interview format.
- Language Use: Jargon: Colbert uses "spit" to refer to rapping, potentially appealing to a
younger demographic familiar with hip-hop slang.
b. Agreement on Power Relation:
This power dynamic is typical for talk show interviews. The host has the upper hand in
terms of guiding the conversation, but successful interviews involve a give-and-take where
the guest can share their personality and insights.
c. Expected Changes:
The power dynamic might shift slightly if Eminem were promoting his album on a different
show where the format is less rigidly controlled by the host. Eminem might have more
opportunities to steer the conversation or even challenge Colbert's jokes.

11:51-14:51: Hằng - Mít (video đã cắt: 6:00-hết)


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Stephen Colbert: Hoodie.
Eminem: Yeah. Not sure what to do here.
Stephen Colbert: Oh, no. No, you don’t.
Eminem: It’s quite frightening.
Stephen Colbert: I will keep it that way.
Eminem: It’s quite frightening.
Stephen Colbert: Stay confused.
Eminem: I am really confused right now.
Stephen Colbert: All right, let’s talk about your lyrics. I’m sorry. I was fronting. I want to
apologize…
Eminem: That you were.
Stephen Colbert: I was fronting.
Eminem: That you were.
Stephen Colbert: These are the lyrics. You say, “I am phenomenal. However long it takes,
I’ll go to whatever lengths it’s gonna make me a monster, though”. The question is here, is
that a message you’re sending to the kids? Which is, if you reach for your dreams. Okay.
You can be the best, but it’s gonna turn you ito some sort of unrecognizable monster that
you’ll reget. Is that the message?
Eminem: Not necessarily, but…
Stephen Colbert: That’s what the lyrics say.
Eminem: I mean, that’s I guess maybe that’s your interpretation of them.
S: It says, I am phenomenal. However long it takes, I’ll go to whatever lengths it’s gonna
make me a monster, though”.
Eminem: I’m just saying, whatever.
Stephen Colbert: You have, you have to be a monster to be phenomenal.
Eminem: I mean, you don’t have to be. but, what I’m saying is. if i go to these lengths and
these extremes and however, if I keep trying, it’s gonna turn my perseverance is goona turn
me into something other than human and animal.
Stephen Colbert: Has that happened to you, Marshall?
Eminem: Maybe… metaphorically speaking.
Stephen Colbert: Well, yeah, I can understand that. I ask for personal reasons because I’m
going to start a new project in the fall. And I’d like to be phenomenal. But I don’t want to
turn a monster. Is it possible? I guess what I’m asking, “Is it possible to be phenomenal and
lose your humanity?
Eminem: I mean, you have to find a balance.
Stephen Colbert: What is the balance? How do you find the balance?
Eminem: Umm…
Stephen Colbert: Do you do hot yoga?
Eminem: No, I meditate a lot.
Stephen Colbert: Do you really meditate?
Eminem: Yeah.
Stephen Colbert: Can you. How you. I know, obviously, you can teach.
Eminem: I’m meditating right now.
Stephen Colbert: Really?
Eminem: Yeah, because this is really f***i** weird.
Stephen Colbert: Now, I understand that southpaw comes out july 24 will be playing only in
Monroe or all across Michigan.
Eminem: It should be playing all across Michigan.
Stephen Colbert: Okay, good.
Eminem: And hopefully beyond.
Stephen Colbert: Okey, well, congratulations. That is… Anything you want to say to the
local people in the Monroe?
Eminem: What up, Monroe?
Stephen Colbert: Well, Marshall Mathers, thank you so much for joining me.
Eminem: Am I, am I performing next, or.
Stephen Colbert: That you be great, but we are kind of tight on time. Okay. Come back in
August because I think I’m hosting again then. And you’ll be … Marshall Mathers. We’ll
be right back.

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a. Power Analysis
- Talk time: Eminem seems to have less time to talk as he responded concisely and in
a short sentence. Colbert on the whole dominates the conversation, speaking for
longer tension. Eminem occasionally interjects with shorter responses or questions,
but Colbert's verbosity and lengthy of the question gives him more control and
time over the conversation. Colbert initiates and concludes most segments of the
conversation. However, Eminem's interventions are impactful and carry weight.
Eminem's statements often prompt reactions and further discussion from Colbert.
Eminem expresses confusion about Colbert's seriousness, indicating a lack of clarity
regarding the tone and direction of the conversation. In addition, focusing on
assertion of identity and recognition, Eminem asserts his identity by stating his name,
"No, I am Marshall," reclaiming his persona amidst Colbert's hypothetical scenario.
Colbert acknowledges Eminem's identity but continues to discuss broader themes
related to perseverance and humility.

The response of silence to Colbert's question and jest: “Not sure what to do here” is
the sign of immediate response, feeling to Colbert. Restateing his feeling of “Quite
Frightening

- Position of sitting: Sitting in the same kind of chair, but Eminem laid back to the
seat, more comfortable and show some conventional aspect, conversely, Colbert sit
straight, with his two leg close and his area and environment are being occupied
partly by the plant makes his space seems to be limited.
- “You come in to my house” with the act of emphasizing and repeating 3 times with
the loud audacity, along with interrupting Eminem explanation showing the changing
in the topic and the conversation flows, showing that Colbert had sign of regaining
power in the conversation

- Change the topic: Colbert using some tools as “Let’s talk about..” to change the
topic of the conversation.

- Hedges: Eminem uses some of the hedges to show his uncertainty to Colbert
pleasantry, “I’m not sure” It’s quite frightening,... to show his confusion to the joke
or “I mean” for clarification, “What I am saying is that ..” or hesitation when
answering the question, “Maybe”

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