Pine Valley Landowners Association Minutes 16/06/12

Apologies; Wayne Rowlands, Vern and Trish Healzewood, Cr Adrian Raedel, Jayesh Hargovind, Ritesh Hargovind and Hemant Gangaram. In Attendance: Darren Grimwade, Michael Lowe, Troy Beaven,John Robinson, Joe and Jacky Farmer, Lisa Beaven, Kris Deuar, Colin and Katrina Hanson, Donna Gregory, Sue and Chris Nugent, Stuart McNeill and Andy McNeill. Meeting held at 775 Oakey Flat Rd, Morayfield Saturday 16/06/2012, meeting opened at 9.40am. Troy welcomed State Member, Darren Grimwade, and thanked him for his attendance. Troy asked Michael Lowe for an update with his progress with consultants for the upcoming submission. Michael explained he has been in touch with a number of consultants that have shown interest to provide fee proposals to supply reports for the submission. He said the prices came back a little higher than he anticipated at around $12000-$15000 for each consultant. i.e. Ecologist and Civil Engineer. Michael went on to explain he thinks he could get a good report from both for around $18000 if thats what the group could budget and he could write a scope for this. Michael explained that a Civil Engineer he was dealing with had done some research and Sewer could be a major issue. The Burpengary Treatment Plant has reached its capacity and Council will not allow new developments to join that network. This would have been an obvious discharge plant for our development. A discussion was briefly held about new treatment plants and the self contained treatment such as Rural Residential development. It was agreed the focus was to stay with getting into the Urban Footprint and although issues such as these would be addressed in the submission, designs and/or planning would not be performed. Katrina told the group she has almost got a new website up and running and it would be password accessed for all PVLA members. More info at the next meeting. Michael suggested to the group that a subcommittee be formed that would meet more regularly as decisions are going to have to be made at these meetings. To be discussed and finalised at next meeting. A question was raised as to what type of development could take place now without being in the Urban Footprint. Michael explained that 10000 square metre blocks could be applied for but 20000 square metres would be easier to obtain. Both would require extensive applications.

Troy asked the group and Michael about the concept plan and what we should put with our submission and that he thought a rural residential concept would be our best chance for 2 major reasons. Firstly, there would be no need for sewer planning as each block would take care of their own through Household Sewer Treatment Plants. And secondly, it would be a major contrast to the development taking place at West Caboolture. Chris Nugent asked Katrina how many Land owners had committed in way of financial contributions that was due a week earlier. Katrina said that 8 lots had deposited their initial $500 requested. She also said she had a verbal commitment from another 4. Troy raised major concerns about these low numbers and said if we didnt have more commitment that the contributions may result in a substandard submission. Troy then went on to say that he had heard from an original member that she had gone her own way and is contemplating putting an application to Council to cut her block into 5 acre lots. She also told him that Roy had put an application into Council to cut his block into 2 acre blocks. She also said that the town planner she had been talking with had been contacting all the owners. Troy then explained how the Town planner she was talking with had also contacted him. Troy said he was now concerned at the mood of the group and how many land owners were showing financial commitment. He said the group had progressed a long way and had become a lot more educated on the issues. He also said that for such a small financial contribution from each land owner it may proceed to have a greater impact on land values and opportunities. Once we are in the urban footprint, we could then lodge applications for acre lots at least. The outlay for the submission is such a small price for such a great reward. Troy also explained how he would look into 2 acre lot subdivisions, but for such a small financial amount and with so much knowledge and hope for being included in the footprint, his options were far greater and the possibilities of much higher returns were well worth the investment. A discussion took place and most all appeared to agree. The defining factor was the amount of commitment we had and how much we should budget. Joe agreed strongly and suggested that if the commitment had waned a little that maybe those who were still committed strongly could contribute a bit more. Most people seemed to agree with strong support from most in attendance. Troy then said that we have reached a point where we couldnt really progress with our budget until we had a better understanding of the commitment.

Troy apologised to Darren and explained he may have attended one meeting too soon and that this was a little embarrassing and hoped it doesnt deter his support. We do appreciate his attendance and were hoping to have some real progression. All agreed that Troy to do a ring around to see what commitment there was and to report back to the group. Once this was done and a deadline of financial commitment shown for budgeting then we will progress from there and discuss what the final contribution would be. Some suggesting 3 contributions of $500 totalling $1500 per block up to the submission. Hopefully with more support this amount would be less, but we will know at the next meeting what our budget is and we can aggressively move forward. Darren accepted Troys apology and said he was still happy to be at the meeting and to share anything with the group that could help. Darren addressed the group by saying its a good thing to keep him in the loop and he would offer help in any way he can. Darren said that the region is the fasted growing in the state and Council and the state Government is putting a fair bit of recourses into planning. He also explained that Council support is critical to our submission and that we are doing the right thing keeping Adrian Raedel involved. He said we really need to address the infrastructure such as roads, schools and hospitals. Darren finished off by asking to be kept involved and he would attend as many meetings as he can. Michael told the group he had been in regular discussions with Adrian and Adrian had told him how much more Council are educated on this issue of Urban Planning. He said that 5 years ago this was a concept Council and it did not have full knowledge of and didnt really support any submission last time. Adrian told Michael that the PVLA has his full support and that the PVLA is known by Council now and a good submission would seriously be considered. Adrian also told Michael that a strategy is important and we dont want to be seen as competition to Caboolture West. Troy said to move forward now, there is not much point continuing discussions about the submission until we knew our commitment and budget. All agreed. Troy asked around the table for anything else that anyone would like to discuss. Chris Nugent asked is it time to get a developer involved. Michael answered it may be a good idea but he would suggest against it and that Council may see it like a West Caboolture where our Strategy is to be included in the Urban Footprint. We want to be seen as options rather than a this is what we want. Chris also asked about the clearing and Michael apologised for not finding out too much and explained he was concentrating his allocated time for the group to

concentrate on the submission. He will make some enquiries and report at the next meeting. Michael wanted to express his view that the submission needed to be supported by a large majority of land ownersa few would not get support as this is a large parcel of land. All agreed the calls Troy makes is top priority and the next meeting be held not long after this. Next meeting about mid August to be confirmed. Meeting closed at 10.20 am.