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#692 - 07/22/02 11:32 AM

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$ am a %a&man o' pipin" stres comp(tation) now eca(se a desi"n pro*ect invo%ved svera% pipes+ $ "an to %earn ,A-.A! $$+ now $ can (se t/is so'tware+ (t w/at con'(sed me was t/e concept o' 0,ode .tress0+ $n t/e e1panion o' a strait pipe 2anc/ored in ot/ end3+ t/e ,ode stress is 4ero+ (t act(a%%& 'rom co%d to a /i"/ temp+ a stron" 'orce prod(ced eca(se o' e1pansion+ so w/& code stress is 4ero+ w/at is t/e mean o' t/is concept5 t/an6 &o( ver& m(c/ 'or &o(r 6ind /e%p5 7777777777777777777777777 /e%%ow+ ever& one8

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Top #693 - 07/22/02 12:21 PM

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12/06/09 11:19 AM

<e%%o+ =o(rs is an interestin" >(estion) T/is is a topic t/at is addressed in seminars eca(se it points o(t t/at a%t/o("/ &o( are (sin" t/e est so'tware 'or pipin" stress ana%&sis+ &o( a%so MU.T /ave an (nderstandin" o' t/e ,ode and o' asic Pipin" s&stem desi"n) 0,ode stresses0 are t/ose t/at are speci'ica%%&

addressed & t/e ,ode) T/e D31 Press(re Pipin" ,odes address t/e D-EF$E? stresses 2and torsiona% stresses3 d(e to t/erma% e1pansion/contraction and t/e& a%so address t/e %on"it(dina% D-EF$E? stress 2d(e to wei"/t3 added to t/e %on"it(dina% press(re stress 2t/e s(m o' t/ese stresses is ca%%ed t/e 0s(stained stresses0 or t/e 0additive stresses03) As &o( point o(t+ $' a desi"ner were to ana%&4e a s&stem t/at /ad a strai"/t piece o' pipe etween two ri"id anc/ors+ t/e ,ode e>(ations wo(%d not address t/e res(%tin" stress in t/e pipe eca(se it is not a endin" stress - it is a compressive (c6%in" stress) T/e ,ode is not intended to e a desi"n 0/and oo60+ it is ass(med t/at t/e desi"ner (nderstands pipin" s&stems and t/at /e/s/e wi%% not p%ace a strai"/t piece o' pipe etween two anc/ors) Man& &ears a"o+ t/e ,odes /ad an e>(ation t/at was intended to address p(re %on"it(dina% compression and tension in pipe 2t/is wo(%d e addressed to"et/er wit/ s(stained stresses3) T/e e>(ation ca%c(%ated t/e stress as t/e compressive or tensi%e AB!,- divided & t/e A!-A o' meta% in t/e pipe wa%%: .tress 2psi3 G A 2in po(nds3 / A 2in s>(are inc/es3) <owever+ it was reco"ni4ed t/at t/e compressive 'orce co(%d easi%& (c6%e a %on" s%ender str(ct(ra% mem er 2 e'ore it wo(%d approac/ t/e stren"t/ o' t/e materia%3 and t/ere was no r(%e in t/e ,ode to acco(nt 'or t/e 0s%enderness ratio0 o' t/e pipe) .o t/e e>(ation was dropped - it was ass(med t/at en"ineers 6new etter) .o+ as &o( /ave discovered+ pipin" s&stems are more comp%e1 t/an mi"/t e ass(med & a ine1perienced 2in pipin" desi"n3 en"ineer) Ma& $ s(""est to &o( t/at &o( %oo6 into a pipin" desi"n seminar and t/at &o( consider o tainin" t/e -H,-##-ET oo6s & Ioods and Da"(%e& and & Fr) ,/(c6 Dec/t - "o /ere: /ttp://www)asme)or"/p( s/ and "o /ere: /ttp://www)normas)com/,A.T$/D31)3)/tm%) P%ease do not t/in6 $ am 0pic6in" on0 &o() =o( as6ed a "ood >(estion and $ /ope &o( wi%% contin(e to as6 >(estions as &o( "ain e1perience) ?ood %(c6 wit/ &o(r pro*ects) Dest re"ards+ Jo/n) 7777777777777777777777777 Jo/n Dreen
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#699 - 07/22/02 02:06 PM

stress" in #aesar II$ Ri# ard Ay

Mem er !e"istered: 12/13/99 Posts: 99:6 #oc: <o(ston+ Te1as+ U.A

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Peter+ To answer &o(r KemL0speci'ic0K/emL >(estion: T/e proper ana%&sis o' a pipin" s&stem invo%ves ana%&4in" a n(m er o' di''erent %oad cases 2'or KemLprimar&+ secondar&+K/emL and KemLoccasiona%K/emL %oads3) T/e pipin" codes de'ine /ow t/e stresses are to e comp(ted 'or eac/ o' t/ese %oad cases) $n t/e CAESAR II o(tp(t report+ t/e co%(mn %a e%ed KemLcode stressK/emL is t/e stress o tained (sin" t/e partic(%ar codeMs e>(ation 'or t/e partic(%ar %oad case in >(estion) =o( can "et a %ist o' a%% o' t/e code e>(ations (sed in CAESAR II & %oo6in" at t/e KemLN(ic6 !e'erence ?(ideK/emL+ startin" on pa"e N-9) $' &o( donMt /ave t/e /ard cop& o' t/is sma%% man(a%+ &o( can 'ind it on%ine+ 'rom t/e KemL0/e%pOdoc(mentation0K/emL men() $' t/is is &o(r 'irst endeavor into t/e wor%d o' KemLPipe .tress Ana%&sisK/emL+ ma6e s(re &o( disc(ss &o(r mode% and t/e res(%ts wit/ someone w/o /as per'ormed t/is sort o' wor6 e'ore) T/ere are ass(mptions 2as Jo/n noted a ove3 and %imitations &o( need to e aware o') T/e i""est %imitation is t/at pipin" pro"rams (ti%i4e t/e KemL3F Deam -%ementK/emL) T/is means t/e comp(ter sees &o(r mode% as a series o' in'inite%& t/in stic6s) $n addition+ t/e e/avior o' t/e pipin" s&stem is ass(med to e dominated & endin"+ %imited to sma%% de'%ections and rotations) =o( canMt as6 2or e1pect3 t/e pro"ram to "ive &o( somet/in" t/at canMt e descri ed wit/in t/ese %imitations) <ence &o(r res(%ts 'or t/e eam etween two anc/ors) T/ere was no movement o' t/e nodes+ t/ere'ore t/ere were no 'orces or moments+ and conse>(ent%& no stress) 2D(c6%in" and ot/er 2nd order e''ects are e&ond t/e scope o' t/e 3F Deam e%ement+ and t/ere'ore e&ond t/e scope o' t&pica% Pipe .tress Ana%&sis3) $ /ope t/is /e%ps) 7777777777777777777777777 !e"ards+ Ri# ard Ay $nter"rap/ ,A.

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stress" in #aesar II$ -im /il#o<

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Peter+ Jim Ii%co1 in ,a%"ar& /ere - representin" ,BAF- in ,anada) in case it is o' interest+ we /ave two pipe stress ana%&sis seminars 2,a%"ar& ; -dmonton3 in Bcto er) $' &o( wo(%d %i6e more detai%s+ /ereMs a %in6 to t/e seminar pa"e at o(r we site: /ttp://www)codecad)com/seminarpa"e)/tm 7777777777777777777777777 J)

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