6man am with 7ro. 8.. 9nbesa on this one. 0he :a;ars / from the region of 5oland / ussia / adopted >udaism and are the modern-da= so-called >ews. 2essenger: zionI 3ent: #( / #4 / )(($ 4: %:($ 52 Dunn= how noone answered m= Euest
6man am with 7ro. 8.. 9nbesa on this one. 0he :a;ars / from the region of 5oland / ussia / adopted >udaism and are the modern-da= so-called >ews. 2essenger: zionI 3ent: #( / #4 / )(($ 4: %:($ 52 Dunn= how noone answered m= Euest
6man am with 7ro. 8.. 9nbesa on this one. 0he :a;ars / from the region of 5oland / ussia / adopted >udaism and are the modern-da= so-called >ews. 2essenger: zionI 3ent: #( / #4 / )(($ 4: %:($ 52 Dunn= how noone answered m= Euest
navigate through the Website Return to Reasoning List Here is a link to this page: http://www.jah-rastafari.com/forum/message-view.aspmessage!group"#$%&'start!row"## Re: Ashkenazi # - #( 11 - 20 )# - *( *# - *+ Time Zone: EST ,-ew .ork/ 0oronto1 2essenger: zionI 3ent: #(/#4/)(($ 4:*%:($ 52 6man am with 7ro. 8. .. 9nbesa on this one. 0he :a;ars/ from the region of 5oland/ <ussia/ came out of the #(th centur=/ adopted >udaism and are the modern-da= so-called >ews. 0rue 6sraelites from the 2iddle ?ast ,including .eshua1 would likel= have had the complexion and ph=sical attributes of their cousins the 9rabs and/ of course/ the ?thiopians/ who are ver= close/ regionall=. 6n6 must ask how it is that those fair skinned/ blue-e=ed people in the West and in 6srael toda= have come to claim the= are the 6sraelites ,i.e. sons of >acob1. 6man think not. 0heir@s is the Aimpostor BionA which is wreaking havoc on this earth. Hail <as 0afari. 2essenger: Dreadnut 3ent: #(/#4/)(($ 4:*C:%* 52 Dunn= how noone answered m= Euestions. 2essenger: Dreadnut 3ent: #(/#4/)(($ #(:)):#) 52 How long do we den= the 9frican Frigin of Givili;ation How long do we den= the 9frican Frigin of Western Givili;ation How long do we den= the 9frican Frigin of >udaism/ Ghristianit=/ and Islam 0his isn@t anti semitism. 0his is 5ro 7lack thought and upliftment through 7lack 9frican 5hilosoph= and Histor=. Pgina 1 de 8 JAH - Re: Ashkenazi - View Messages 14/06/2014 file:///:/!se"s/!s#a"i$/A%%&a'a/($)al/*e+%/($w/(,!-./0!1h'+ 6 have presented a argument with facts/ dates/ and reference. 0his is wh= the= don@t want =ou messing with :emetH 0his is wh= the= whitewash ?g=ptH 0his is wh= the make ?g=pt look demonicH Wh= =ou think the= make those movies with the evil mumm= Wh= does :emet/ which was called the Iight of this World before an= bible/ seem to get the butt end of stories in the bible 7ecause according to histor= and its record of judgement/ the bibles kemetic opinion is in the minorit=. 0r=ing to go about 9frican histor= with telling the true stor= of :emet/ is like tr=ing to talk about ?urope without Jreece and <omeH 6n other words completl= impossibleH We need to go back before the 7ible/ we need to understand that the 7ible is patirarchal and made to suit men. 8on@t believe me 0he 7ible sa=s/ 0hou shall not covet th= neighbors wife right 5lease if =ou can find the commandment that sa=s/ 0hou shall not covet th= neighbors husband. -ot onl= that but if =ou read the biblical version of this commandment its doesn@t end at wife but continues with / Anor his ox/ or his ass.A 0he woman was being listed amongst the other items. 3he was higher then the cow but not as high as the man. 0he laws were written to men for men. 0hen the other commandment sa=s/ 0hou shall not commit adultr=. Well it sounds good on paper/ but =ou gotta tell me what @adultr=@ means when =our living in a pol=gamist world/ meaning more than one wife. <emember the wiset king in the world/ the 3un three times 3ol-om-on. How man= wives did he have again #((( wivesH 3o please some one explain what adultr= means if =ou can have more than one wife 9lso how man= other charaters had more than one wife 9bdon 9bijah 9braham 9hab 9hasuerus 9shur 7elsha;;ar 7enhadad Galeb 8avid ?lipha; ?lkanah ?sau ?;ra Jideon Heman Hosea 6b;an 6ssachar >acob >air >ehoiachin >ehoram >erahmeel >oash Iamech 2achir 2anasseh 2ered 2oses -ahor <ehoboam 3aul 3haharaim 3himei 3imeon 3olomon 0erah Bedekiah Biba :emet was a matriarchal s=stem. 6ts concept derived from the c=cle of the mother/ the goddess. 0hats wh= in the reliefs in :emet we see the mothers standing behind the :ings with a small version of the throne on her head/ because no man could come to earth let alone the throne without coming through his mother. 9nd if we are going to be so full throttle on charging ?g=pt with slaver= involvement then the Ahol=A hebrew is guil= and not onl= guilt= but D6<30H 8on@t =ou remember How did >oesph,F01 get into ?g=pt 9. 7us 7. 0rain G. 3old to the 6shmealites b= his brothers as a slave. Jen *4:)*- )4 )*K 9nd it came to pass/ when >oseph was come unto his Pgina 2 de 8 JAH - Re: Ashkenazi - View Messages 14/06/2014 file:///:/!se"s/!s#a"i$/A%%&a'a/($)al/*e+%/($w/(,!-./0!1h'+ brethren/ that the= stript >oseph out of his coat/ his coat of man= colours that was on himL M)4K 0hen there passed b= 2idianites merchantmenL and the= drew and lifted up >oseph out of the pit/ and sold >oseph to the 6shmeelites for twent= pieces of silver: and the= brought >oseph into ?g=pt. Well 6@m going to pick G. 9nd mind =ou that happened two centuries before 2oses existedH 9nd now here comes the rational. When the :emetic people built the 2ajor 5=ramids/ the= had alread= been built b= the end of the $th Gentur= 7GH 0hats )%&(- ))&( 7GH 3o even if the 6sraelites were slaves and were building an=thing it wasn@t until the #Cth 8=nast= #+++-#*%( 7GH 0he Jrande lodge of Iuxor in 0hebes is where 2oses became an innitiate of the 2=ster= 3=stem of :emet and became a part of the A6nner circle/ or cabinentA of <amsesH His title in ?g=pt was 5riest or Heirogrammat/ which means that he studied under kemetic priests for over %( =ears and worshipped the Jod 9men <aH ?ven the 7ible declares/ 9G03 vii/ )). 9nd 2oses was learned in all the Wisdom of the ?g=ptians/ and was might= in Words and 8eeds. HUHH What he learn there 3ome evil 5agan shit that magicall= transformed into might= words and deeds 0his is also supported b= 5hilo of 9lexandria/ the man we get the word philosoph=. 9nd he was born in 9lexandria/ ?g=pt the same place where >esus delivers most of his sermons in ?g=pt. Who is 5hilo of 9lexandria/ lets see 5hilo ,)( 7G - %(1/ known also as 5hilo of 9lexandria and as 5hilo >udeaus/ was a Helleni;ed >ewish philosopher born in 9lexandria/ ?g=pt. 0he few biographical details concerning him are found in his own works/ especiall= in Iegatio ad Gaium/ ,Aembass= to GaiusA1 and in >osephus ,9ntiEuitiesA xviii. 4/ N #L comp. ib. xix. +/ N #L xx. +/ N )1. Wikipedia 2oses according to the stor= was leading slaves/ not intellctuals like himself. 0he= didn@t stud= in the Jrand Iodge of Iuxor and recieve their final degree in the 5=ramid of :hufu. 2oses could tell them an=thing. -ot onl= that but the p=ramids and reliefs that stand still toda= in ?g=pt are the greatest in the world and the= still stand toda=H 0he :emetic people knew the= were building the worlds greatest monuments and demonstaring a building science and math that we toda= still dont even understand and =ou want to tell me that :emet was willing to give this credit to slaves 0he= gave awa= all their secret building knowledge and techniEues to slaves whom according to the 7ibles account/ :emet hated 0his is the m=tholog=H 0his is bullshitH Histor= proves that :emetic but alone. 0he people of :emet were literall= overwhelmed with excitement tr=ing to be a part of those structures. 0he= alread= had an Pgina 3 de 8 JAH - Re: Ashkenazi - View Messages 14/06/2014 fie:///!:/"se#s/"s$a#i%/A&&'a(a/)%*a/+e,&/)%w/)-"./01"2h(, overwhelming amount of people who wanted to build the worlds greatest structures and first above and below ground buildings out of carved rock/ 0H?. 868-@0 -??8 3I9O?3. 3o what right Iets just keep blaiming ?g=ptians for something that never even happened and keep this horrible stigma on :emet wether its the exodus stor= or an=other Aeg=pt slave stories.A 0here has never been a time when :emetic people enslaved an=one. 9n=time slaver= was induced in :emet was when foreign inveders had taken over at the time and never had an=thing to do with the indigonous peoples themselves. 0here has never been a time in :emetic histor= when outside visitors have come into :emet and not been greeted with respect and hospitalit=. 6 love 7lack 5eopleH 6 love 9frica and 9frican teachings. 6 am a <astafarian and 6 want 7lack Iiberation and that starts with the mindH 5lease prove me wrongH 6 invite it. 2essenger: arI-Sight 3ent: #(/#C/)(($ $:((:*% 92 What is a <astaman meddling in :emet 7usiness. 9 <asta2an know that before :emet was ?thiopia/ so with all this kemet ideolog= how does =our reverence for Haile 6 3elassie 6/ who is the same :ing 8avid for this manifestation at =et a higher exalted level than 8avid of 9ncienc=/ and =et the 3ame 2an who is the 9lmight= Jod. -o doubt :emet histor= has been whitewashed/ no doubt it was a great civilisation/ =et ?thiopian <o=al -ation Wealth :ingdom was before and even more mesmerising. Gheck deeper 2= Iord and =ou will find that the :emetic 5haraoahs and 5riests said .ea/ we come from the 3ource of the 7lue -ile and that is where we learnt our 3ciences/ 9rts and 3piritualit= from. 0hink with =our own heavens/ not mutabaruka propoganda/ or whatever =ou hear from a next blackman/ probabl= =ou are a ?uropean man still/ =et do not misinterpret for =our white skin doesnt have much of a difference in this matter.Fne must be wise when gathering info from external sources/ alwa=s enEuire =our 3elf of 3elf/ as one is highl= liable to be drunk with knowledge. 6 and 6 stand firm for the knowledge of ?thiopia being the Dirst World/ but 7ab=lon has erased all memorials so noone can find an= trace of it except the 3tellae and a few other tings/ the= left what the= wanted 7lack 5eople to see/ the 3ister/ or even Ghild of ?thiopian Givilisation. 9nother thing is that 2oses performed Jodl= works that ama;ed His teachers in kemet/ and 6 will show =ou that 2oses is the same 9lmight= Jod in flesh. Pgina 4 de 8 JAH - Re: Ashkenazi - View Messages 14/06/2014 fie:///!:/"se#s/"s$a#i%/A&&'a(a/)%*a/+e,&/)%w/)-"./01"2h(, Hol= ?mmanuel 6/ 3elassie 6/ >ah <astafari ?thiopia <o=al Wealth -ation :ingdom +th :ingdom of >es-us 3tand for ?Eualit= and >ustice Hol= :ing ?mmanuel &th is the 7lack Ghrist in Dlesh/ the Jod of 0ruth and <ights/ -othing came before the * in # who is # in * 2essenger: !ro Domini" #eh$ah An%esa 3ent: #(/#C/)(($ C:)%:)# 92 6ses 2= Iord Dar6/ was the 7rethren 8readnut not in =our Ateaching influenceA as it seemed over the board here.... so ma=be the 6 5riest could explain what this is all about 8readnut/ 6 see where =ou are standing/ and 6 see the agressive attitudes through the words. 0hat is wh= 6 am not going further on that niveau. Well =ou proofed tough enuff to use the word shit... and =ou don@t get that =our fire bla;ing has alwa=s burnt =our own fingers till 6 n 6 read from =ou on this board. 9nd 6 can@t see how a =outh can be that un-humble... ma=be =ou remember =ourself burning hate fire pon the 7obo.... and then ma=be =ou remember =ourself burning agressive fire against all 7obo AopponentsA just some time later. 9nd now what is the next =ou deem worth of agression 6 don@t get it.... how can someone show off his own =outhful incompetence in such a rude manner 9nd that ever= little time 2a=be this will get =ou even more agressive... but 6 did not recall all this things to expose =ou or something like that. 7ut 6 guess what 6 tr= to show =ou.... is not to expose =ourself ever=time =ou feel that =ou found a new to= to boast with. 6man am not going to discuss the historical authencit= of the bible here/ as 6 do not see an= serious attempt.... all 6 see is agressive boasting round... 6 am a professional scholar of theolog= and bible histor= and will enroll universit= as such. 6 deal on historical authentic bases. 0hat is wh= =ou will understand/ it has alread=/ and will take books over books to discuss that topic to the fullness. and 6 am not going to heat m= temper in unserious half knowledge. ?ver= african scholar will understand what 6 meant when calling kemet pagan. 9nd ever= <F.9I 7I9G: 60H6F569- will understand when 6 sa=.... when 6 n 6 6vine 9rc of the Govenant ro=al seat of heavenl= Bion passed ?g=pt and all idol broke in peaces. H96I? 6 5FW?< 9frica is more than :emet... and Givilisation flew 8FW- the river nile. 6srael is ?thiopia first black -ation on ?arth. -othing is before... the true 7lack :ingdom of creation. Pgina 5 de 8 JAH - Re: Ashkenazi - View Messages 14/06/2014 fie:///!:/"se#s/"s$a#i%/A&&'a(a/)%*a/+e,&/)%w/)-"./01"2h(, It is very good that a white youth is doing african research, and also good that you are identifying with it. But maybe you should watch out not to get trapped by your own color-complexes. With all due love misinterpretation of my words is intended provocation with which I n I have no time to deal Selah Messenger Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent !"#!$#%""& !!"'%( )M *readnut selah+ ,S- Messenger Dreadnut Sent !"#!$#%""& !!&". /M What0 1o )frican scholar is going to tell you about 2gypt being /agan, that is fool tal3+ 1one of you can even address one of my points, not even one+ 4o as3 5hancoller Williams, 6ohn 7edri3 5lar3, *r. Ben 8osef, )shra -wesi, 6ohn 6ac3son, go read Wonderful 2thiopians and the )ncient -ushite 2mpire.... 9he blac3 men who have already and and still strugling to get the real message to thier people. )nd so far its been mostly whites who fight me. :ar I sight, if you read my post you will see that I clearly stated, 248/9 IS 297I;/I)S ;<*2S9 *)=4792,+ )nd this has nothing to do with me burning Bobo )shanti, I hail 2mmanuel because 2mmanuel taught that the Blac3 Man was 4od />tahm and that 7is heavenly home is in 2thiopia. 9his is history, carved into roc3s thousands of years before Moses. S; /<2)S2 )1SW2, M8 ?=2S9I;1S you guys answer @uestions and theories li3e the Bush )dministration+ Is this attitude tough0 ;r amybe others aren>t tough enough. I am tired of seeing the blac3 mans history stolen from him+ I am tired of hearing about harim abif and solomon, I want to hear about Imhotep+ It seems you all still thin3 2gypt is sunnworshipers0 8;= 5)1 1;9 9)<- )B;=9 ):,I5)1 7IS9;,8 WI97;=9 248/9 Pgina 6 de 8 JAH - Re: Ashkenazi - View Messages 14/06/2014 file:///:/!se"s/!s#a"i$/A%%&a'a/($)al/*e+%/($w/(,!-./0!1h'+ ;, 297I;/I), 97)9S <I-2 9,8I14 9; 4; )B;=9 2=,;/2)1 7IS9;,8 WI97;=9 4,2252 ;, ,;M2. Messenger Dreadnut Sent !"#!$#%""& !'.AA /M )nd :ar I sight, mutabaru3a is hardly my influence, not at all. I want )frican people to be able to loo3 in the mirror and absolutly <;B2 what they see. 9he only way my hon3y ass can ever hope to see that is to ta3e the 9rue story of the ,oyal Blac3 )frican to my people and crush those oppressive stories+ )nd though I sound pissed, I am. But not at any of you all. 8ou guys aren>t the ones re writing the boo3s and stealing the history. I am not able to Cust put out some facts, I am a living being and I spea3 with passion on the Blac3 man and his suffering. I get excited, I even raise my voice sometimes. *on>t ta3e it personal. Messenger White dread Sent !"#!$#%""& %!!!. /M My brother dreadnut 9o ma3e people understand love, spread love en Dsprin3leD love over your words. 8ou have EmaybeF given all of your DproofD EI>m not sure if it is proofF about the -M9 of egyptians, nothing else to say. More words that will be said will probaly escaltate this reasoning and then there will be not much love to be found, What was probally your main goal. I appricate that your want to share your 3nowlegde with us. :or 3nowlegde is power. ,eason with love and stop using DbadD words li3e shit. 9hat is for people who feel that they can>t handle the situation. Still with love White *read Messenger Dreadnut Sent !"#!$#%""& %'%"G /M 9his is all my proof0 Maybe I>m still waiting for answers to my very first @uestion0 Pgina 7 de 8 JAH - Re: Ashkenazi - View Messages 14/06/2014 fie:///!:/"se#s/"s$a#i%/A&&'a(a/)%*a/+e,&/)%w/)-"./01"2h(, ! - !" 11 - 20 %! - '" '! - 'A Return to Reasoning List RastafarI Email Haile Selassie I Pgina 8 de 8 JAH - Re: Ashkenazi - View Messages 14/06/2014 fie:///!:/"se#s/"s$a#i%/A&&'a(a/)%*a/+e,&/)%w/)-"./01"2h(,