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Potential Issue with PV Elite 2017 MDMT

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DESCRIPTION OF ISSUE
From the testing of several design conditions on a sample vessel model, PV Elite 2017 does
not appear to correctly apply the 30 degree Fahrenheit (17 degree Celsius) reduction in
impact testing exemption temperature when Post-Weld Heat Treatment (PWHT) is not an
ASME Section VIII, Division 1 (Code) requirement. PV Elite 2017 is applying the reduction
incorrectly in two key ways:

1. The rated Minimum Design Metal Temperature (MDMT) of a vessel is allowed to

drop beneath -55 degrees Fahrenheit (-48 degrees Celsius) even though the coincident
ratio defined in Figure UCS-66.1 is greater than 0.35
2. When the required MDMT of a vessel is less than -55 degrees Fahrenheit, PWHT
becomes a Code requirement per UCS-68(b); however, the 30 degree Fahrenheit
reduction is still applied

BACKGROUND
The 2015 Edition of the ASME Boiler & Pressure Vessel Code Section VIII, Division 1
allows for exemptions to impact testing of Code pressure boundary parts if the curves of
Figure UCS-66 are satisfied. The Code also allows for further exemption temperature
reductions in paragraphs UCS-66 and UCS-68. Paragraph UCS-68(c) states:

“If postweld heat treating of a pressure-retaining weld is performed when it is not otherwise
a requirement of this Division, a 30 degree Fahrenheit (17 degree Celsius) reduction in
impact testing exemption temperature may be given to the minimum permissible temperature
from Figure UCS-66 for P-No. 1 materials”

This reduction in impact testing exemption temperature is commonly applied to vessels (if
allowed by the end user) that are in sour service and PWHT is required to help prevent
hydrogen induced cracking and other similar failure mechanisms. However, there are two
main concerns when applying this reduction, namely:
 1. The final rated MDMT cannot be colder than -55 degrees Fahrenheit unless impact
testing is performed per UCS-66(b)(2)/(3) and UCS-68(b) or the coincident ratio as
determined from Figure UCS-66.1 is less than 0.35
2. If the required MDMT is colder than -55 degrees Fahrenheit, PWHT becomes a Code
requirement for components with coincident ratios greater than 0.35 per UCS-68(b)
with the exception of P-No. 1 materials that have been impact tested at the required
MDMT or colder

From the above points, it should be noted that the Code indicates that a carbon steel
vessel component cannot have a rated MDMT colder than -55 degrees Fahrenheit unless
it is either impact tested or has a coincident ratio less than 0.35 as defined in Figure
UCS-66.1.

SAMPLE MODEL SETUP & DESIGN CONDITIONS

To demonstrate that PV Elite 2017 is not applying the reduction for impact test exemption
per UCS-68(c) correctly, a sample vessel that underwent non-Code required PWHT (initially)
was created in both PV Elite 2017 and COMPRESS 2017 (Build 7700). Details of the sample
vessel are as follows:

The sample vessel was subjected to three differing design MDMT and Maximum Allowable
Working Pressure (MAWP) conditions in both software packages. The three conditions were
as follows:

 Case 1: Required MDMT of -20 degrees Fahrenheit (-28.9 degrees Celsius) at the
calculated MAWP of 312 psi (head limiting)
 Case 1: Required MDMT of -60 degrees Fahrenheit (-51.1 degrees Celsius) at the
calculated MAWP of 312 psi (head limiting)
 Case 1: Required MDMT of -60 degrees Fahrenheit (-51.1 degrees Celsius) at a
specified MAWP of 50 psi

In all three cases above, impact testing exemptions per UG-20(f) were not allowed.

PV ELITE 2017 RESULTS WITH COMPARISON TO

COMPRESS 2017 (BUILD 7700)
For each of the sample vessel comparisons, the cylinder attached to the right head was
evaluated.
CASE 1 – PV Elite 2017: -20 degrees @ 321 psi

CASE 1 – COMPRESS 2017: -20 degrees @ 321 psi

CASE 1 DISCUSSION

From the comparison between PV Elite and COMPRESS for Case 1, both programs
reasonably agree on several items such as required thickness, MAWP, MAP, coincident
stress ratio, and reduction in MDMT from Figure USC-66.1. There is some slight
disagreement between the initial exemption temperature of -51 & -48 degrees Fahrenheit (-
46.1 & -44.4 degrees Celsius) from PV Elite and COMPRESS respectively, but this is likely
the result of one program using the curves from Figure UCS-66 and the other using
interpolation from Table UCS-66.

The real issue is apparent when observing the final rated MDMT. PV Elite provides a rating
value of -85 degrees Fahrenheit (-65 degrees Celsius) whereas COMPRESS indicates that the
coldest allowable rating from the component is only -55 degrees Fahrenheit. Breaking down
PV Elite’s approach, it appears that the program is allowing an additional 30 degree
Fahrenheit reduction from non-Code required PWHT on top of the lowest, actual allowable
value of -55 degrees for an absolute minimum value of -85 degrees Fahrenheit. This thought
is reinforced by the fact that PV Elite calculates the base exemption temperature of -51
degrees and then lowers that value by another 30 degrees to -81 degrees Fahrenheit (-62.78
degrees Celsius). Since PV Elite is limiting the MDMT to -85 degrees, of the available 24
degrees of additional reduction temperature from Figure UCS-66.1, only 4 degrees are
applied to the previous value of -81 degrees.

As stated in the Background section of this article, the lowest allowable MDMT rating
without impact testing or sub-0.35 coincident stress ratio, -55 degrees Fahrenheit is the
lowest allowable value. Therefore, PV Elite is incorrectly applying the reduction from PWHT
per UCS-68(c). Conversely, COMPRESS provides the correct and expected rating for the
MDMT of -55 degrees.

CASE 2 – PV Elite 2017: -60 degrees @ 321 psi

CASE 2 – COMPRESS 2017: -60 degrees @ 321 psi

CASE 2 DISCUSSION

For Case 2, PV Elite behaves exactly as demonstrated in Case 1. However, it is important to

notice that since the required MDMT is now -60 degrees Fahrenheit, PWHT becomes a code
requirement per UCS-68(b) unless the component is a Category A or B joint and is impact
tested. Because of this, the 30 degree reduction in impact test exemption temperature
per UCS-68(c) is no longer applicable. Note that COMPRESS no longer displays the 30
degree reduction in the “UCS-66 Material Toughness Requirements” results summary.

Similar to Case 1, PV Elite reports a MDMT of -85 degrees Fahrenheit where as

COMPRESS indicates a MDMT of -55 degrees. This is a critical difference in this case since
PV Elite incorrectly indicates that impact testing is not required to meet the MDMT of -
60 degrees contrary to the results demonstrated by COMPRESS.

CASE 3 – PV Elite 2017: -60 degrees @ 50 psi

CASE 3 – COMPRESS 2017: -60 degrees @ 50 psi
CASE 3 DISCUSSION

Similarly to Case 1 & 2, PV Elite erroneously allows the base MDMT to drop to -85 degrees
Fahrenheit. However, since the MAWP is limited to 50 psi, the coincident stress ratio is only
0.12 and the MDMT rating is therefore allowed to drop to -155 degrees Fahrenheit in both
programs as allowed in UCS-66(b)(3). Again, COMPRESS withholds the 30 degree
Fahrenheit reduction in impact testing exemption since the required MDMT is colder than -
55 degrees.

FINAL CONCLUSIONS
As stated at the beginning of the article, PV Elite 2017 is incorrectly applying the MDMT
reduction to impact testing exemption per UCS-68(c). Caution is advised when using PV
Elite going forward to ensure that the correct MDMT is actually shown and that a
requirement for impact testing is not missed.
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August 4, 2017 Nick WickCoadeware Compress, MDMT, pvelite

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