144 Square

I’m new to the group, I will post some information we can share with
each other, about the master charts, how they interelate, and what they
are based on.

For instance the 144 square shows and defines every market move, from
the smallest move to the largest swing, the ratios that dominate all
market movements are the ones every one is familiar with, sacred geo,
fib, 144 and its multiples, 144 is based on the 12 months, but more
importantly, Jupiter’s synodic cycle, and also the 1440 minutes in the
day, the reason why nobody can use the 144 square is they cannot put it
in time correctly, Gann told everybody to put it on a major high or
low, that is the biggest line of bullshit he ever wrote.

All markets, you cannot find the starting point if you cannot fit every
minute of the day into the square, when you have the repeat of a time
price configuration at the same minute, then you know the cycle that is
operating.
I will post seven different days that the market had its origin in the
same time price configuration. When you understand what is happening in
the market the master charts take on new meaning, because they are
designed to work with each other and they do. Basically, Gann knew the
market was only a geometric solid rotating in front of you, but he also
knew our senses would not allow us to "see" it, so he created the
144 square which puts a multidimensional thing like a market into a
lattice structure that would define more correctly a two dimensional
awareness. Smart mofo wasn’t he?

The circle defines market movements, 360 degrees has in itself the key
to the 144 square, they are incredibly related, once you understand
what the circle really is, then you understand what the geometric solid
is that is behind the market movements. All you need is written in
Gann’s books and courses, it’s just your own mind that probably
prevents you from full understanding. I write this not for recognition,
but I know lots of Gann students work hard at this stuff, I assure the
things he spoke of are true. Rest assured, people with tremendous left
brain logic, atheists or agnostics will never figure Gann’s methods
out, you need a tremendous amount of right brain awareness and cold
logic combined, and a connection with the universal mind is also
needed.

Let’s take a look at time and price and see if we can balance it the
way old Gann did. The emini today is sitting on a price level that
was balanced some time ago, around the 1066 level, 1064 today I
believe it closed near. The time angles are in relation to the price
are way out of balance. Time is seriously ahead of price at this
conjunction, the clock time balanced out at 139 at 109 pm and the
longer term time frame came in at 71.79 time angle, the middle of
the square, the reciprocal 1 divided by 71.79 equals 139 in time
balancing the clock time, the price is on a 45 degree price line
that is now old, meaning that theoretically the market tomorrow
morning should be off to a price level near 1080 to realign itself
with the time period, thus bringing the time and price in alignment
with the forty five degree angle. The true forty five degree angle.
If the market perhaps blows thru 1080, then it will go to the next
gravity center of 1086.54, and if hits 1080 and reacts down it
should settle near the lower gravity center of 1076. Let’s see what
happens. The old circle of three times itself. I only ask if what I
say is totally wrong and lame, go easy on me, im here to share with
you guys !!! gann said that EVERYTHING seeks its gravity center, so
let put that old dude to the test, shall we ????????????

Hi you folks

I uploaded a file called time price returns, this shows three days
exactly so many ............ apart, they are all different days, the
times and the prices are cut off to prevent reverse enginering,
notice the similar pattern from the opening each day, follow the
pattersn and swings, this happened because the first day, the time
was 49 and the price was 14.25, the harmonic ratio was 2.91, or
three over the second square of 144,, this means price and time are
balanced whenever your time price configurations come on the end of
the square, the next day the time was also at the same ratio but
different time price configurations, the third day also came in on a
2.88 harmonic, also different positions in the square, but the same
ratio at the same time, so the pattern must repeat ,when this
happens, this is harmonic analysis, the reason a person cannot see
this with their eyes, is because you have no origin point to define
time price configurations, its like walking down a five mile road
and being asked to describe five things that repeated, not likely,
same with the market, you need a fixed point to get points of
mathematical force to determine when they happen again, then it is
likely to repeat a pattern.

I feel that the market you look at, any market you look at is an
illusion, the time on the chart is an illusion, the price you look
at is an illusion, but behind and back of the chart is the geometric
solid that price and time are working off. When I say to you, "what
time is it" and you say its 630 pm, and I say thanks, and we both
agree that it is six thirty pm, but is it really six thirty pm ?, it
is only 630 pm because we have a point of reference that we agree
on, that we have been taught,that our body senses it is six thirty
pm, at some point in time, we adopted a time system, but this time
system is based on astro cycles, all time is based in some origin of
an astro cycle. Ponder this. I am sitting on my porch, I am at zero
aries or 360 pisces. I am Fred Flinstone, and hovering out in front
of me is the great gazoo, he is not subject to the laws that i am,
while im here on earth, so were talking and four, eight, twelve, and
the sixteen minutes elapse and im moving and rotating right along,
but ol gazoo remains fixed at the origin point, now we began talking
at lets say 630 am, and time goes by some more and now i have moved
90 degrees away from gazoo, but we are still talking and im turning
the corner now, while he remains fixed at the starting point, 12
hours later im now 180 degrees from gazoo, but he is still talking
with me, i keep on moving around approaching the 270 degree position
and we are still talking well enough, now I am approaching him
again, as i am completing my revolution, when i get to where gazoo
is, i have not quite completed my cycle yet, so continue past gazoo
and stop some point further along the zodiac, ponder this goofy
story well

When the fellows in the movie quest for fire, wanted to know what
time it is, one of the drooling low foreheads asked his partner what
time is it, so he could go pick up his new issue of gentlemens
quarterly. The drooling fellow checked his Rolex and responded, its
1:44 pm. These fellows would have surely have been aware and watched
the environment for constant feedback on how to cope and surive and
learn something of the the situation, lets suspend our belief in
time for a moment, and say that it doesnt exist, let say we had a
square of nine, and we noticed that the seasonal time periods are so
close the gann square that we cannot ignore these time periods.
Geometry says that any circle no matter how small or large contains
360 degrees, gann always said i measure everything with the circle,
time, price, volume, space, whatever you want, then he says i put
the square and the triangle inside the cirlce to get important point
for resistance for either time, price, space or anything i want, how
come none of you see or talk about, or figure on the earthly year of
365 days to the circle in geometry, isnt that what gann screams at
you with the square of nine, or do you think it just a square root
calculator, do any of you understand the ratio that the square of
nine is built and designed on ?, the SEASONS are the time periods,
thats what the MASTER CHARTS are built on and designed upon, its
funny how want to make things so complicated, This rotating
geometric solid you all wonder about, is your own earth, lol. Gann
said everything has four sides, a ceiling and a floor, if you put
144 cells on each side, to complete the building, you would need to
run out 864 or the six square of 144, yesterday at 1130 am time was
sitting on the middle of the square, the emini in price was sitting
on a .720 time price relation with the time angle, that is your
second circle, and its the fifth square of 144, the building is
still under construction, you guys and ladies have much more math
abilitiy than myself, my math skills are eighth grade level, but i
dont need all that stuff, i can set any market in time and price
correctly inside the master charts.

In the master charts section of Ganns course, he speaks of how older

stocks when price gets high, the swings are rapid and wide, he says
this is because the forty five degree angles are further apart, this
lends itself to the fact that vibratory nature of something changes
as it gets older, that would lend itself to music theory. A number
of years ago it was common to find those large wooden stereos in
people houses, the kind with the turntable inside and the lifting
top. When i was small, I used to clamp my teeth on the edge of that
cabinet and then my bones would act as a conduit for the musical
vibration, I have read other stories from people who described other
kids doing the same. A deaf person could easily feel the music at a
live show on the same basis. Music theory refers to different modes,
such as Lydian, Phrygian, Locrian, Ionian, Dorian, Mixolydian and
Aeolian. Some players like Carlos Santana, might be considered modal
players because when you see him live, he can easily manipulate a
crowd of people with tension, release, melancholy, brightness, this
ability has something to do with a mode of playing, it appears it
also has its origin in the way a band will comp his playing. Guitar
players like George Benson and Wes Montgomery made a living playing
octaves, where they strike two different strings, ie the same notes
simultaneously, this is a very pleasing and interesting sound to the
ear, like a marriage of sound, the notes have sympathetic resonance
it seems. I belive the musicians term for this is, Harmonic
Discordance. It appears as you stack the 144 squares on top of each
other, the vibration of that particular square would change, it
might be possible to build the 144 squares according to a diatonic
scale, and the steps and intervals between might be a way to define
vibration to particular numbers in the square, much the same as
notes having their own vibration, this would lend itself to gann
statement, the higer the prices go the faster the swings, depending
on the position of the price and what square its in. This would be
applicable to time angles, as numbers are numbers, if one vibrates,
they all do. Find a all time low or high in a market, and take the
22.5, 45, 90 points and you will see some vibrational laws at work.
On page 169 of the master charts section Gann says, "Prices are
governed by time and time causes prices to change and the time
angles are the resistance to price. These are measured in hours of
longtitude which are basic geometric angles and determine the change
of trend" Why do the time angles of 36,45,54,72,81,84,90,108,126
causes markets intraday to change trend, its because these time
angles are like brick walls to price when it gets there. When you
measure time from the seasons, arent you measuring hours of
longtitude ? and arent the basic geometric angles he speaks of the
time angle that i speak of ? They arent if you describe the theory
that a Gann angle must be a diagonal, but thats another story

Below is a response…I have not included it, as its not Pure Prof…

Thats a intersting way to look at it yes, everybody sees things

differently in their own mind, eye look at it like this, if you take
your circle. 360 and divide it by 45 degree angles, you get eight of
them, this is like the octagon that the martial artists use to throw
and skeletal freeze someone. If you visualize this octagon on the
ground with it eight even sections, these are the one eights gann
spoke of, or for murrey math students, your eight square. Now
visualize reaching down to the middle of the circle where all the
lines intersect and pick it up, now the object looks different as it
it standing up, this apex point that you picked up is your fifty
percent point or the middle of the eights, this can be your forty
five degree point, they all are forty five degree points, but this
is the true gravity center of them. These price levels that the time
angle creates can define whether the market under observation is in
the bullish side of the square or in the bearish side, for the
clever folks, this line of thinking can tell you where to put your
gann fans intraday, when you know a point in space and time that is
correctly defining the forty five degree angle, then the angles
above and below the forty five can be the angles for the bullish and
bearish side of the square. You can do lots of interesting things
when you know what time angle is operating.

The last time eye was in here, there was bitter discussion about
copyright violations over some tired ass wheel of twenty four. Lets
get on the track to some serious Do Re Mi, or perhaps Fa So La Ti
Do. For some time now, I have had in my possession a time period
that governs when the wheel returns to its origin. I acquired this
from the akashic records. So then eyem thinking thinking thinking,
did Gann operate on this same time factor, I refer you to A.S.
Raleigh's book, Occult Geometry and Hermetic Science of Motion and
Number, read the first page and you see that the wheel returns to
its position, but when does this happen ? Gann made two statements
that are the key to his trading application, the first one is, "time
angles govern price", and the second one "Everything seeks a gravity
center" The two laws that govern all matter are the law of
heptaparaparshinokh and the triamazikanmo, ie, the law of seven and
the law of three. Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do, an octave, monday tuesday
wednesday thursday friday saturnsday sunsday and the repetition of
the octave returning to the Do or monday, an octave, when twenty
four of these octaves run out, the wheel returns to its position.
This is 192 calendar days, THE time factor. In looking back from
1940, our hero supreme was born on june ninth 1906, young Bobbie
discovered his master time factor on june 19 1927, this is exactly
7680 days from his birth, 7680 is forty octaves of 192 calendar
days, turn to page forty and read how gann describes the WHEEL.
Young Hero Gordon girlfriend Marie left him on june 5 1927 and
returned August 30 1932, this is exactly 1913 days from her stage
left exit, Do you think these numbers were arbitrarily used ? ten
octaves of 192 calendar days are 1920 days, but Gann returned her
exactly seven days early, a Week, a diatonic octave, the law of
seven, the law of vibration to show you the law. He chose the ten
octaves because the number ten is the alpha and the omega, I refer
you to Brydlovan theory of numbers, I also refer you to page seven
and ten, and notice how Gann is again speaking of the WHEEL. Read
professor OBJOYFUL analysis of the reason Marie left, notice his
description of Uranus, Uranus sits 19.19 astronomical units from the
Sun, check the position of Uranus on last date of the book, August
30 1932, it sits at exactly 23 degrees aries, and if you use the
circle, this would be 360 plus 23, 383 degrees, and the second
octave of the master time factor is 384, one over, and this one is
the ending and the beginning of the next cycle, The cycle of 192.
Check the relationship of the 144 square to this 192, the difference
is 48 units, hours, days, 192 is four octaves of 48, 48 days times
24 hours is 1152, the eight square of 144 or the sixth octave of
192, 48 hours times 60 minutes is 2880 the fifteenth octave of 192.
Supreme commander gave the world fifteen days to respond, or 360
hours. The earth year 365.25 divided by the time factor 192 is
1.902, again the master repeating time factor. Now, eight days at 24
hours is 192 hours, the first diatonic octave, and twenty four of
these diatonic octaves is 192 calendar days, when the wheel is
reset. 48 days times 24 hours in a day is 1152 hours, times 60 is
69120 seconds, and this is the 360 octave of the master time factor
192, proving up the relationship between 144 and 192, you can use
the 144 square within the 192 CD octave. Our young hero discovered
his time factor on 6 19 1927, Here Gann being at his cleverest,
disguises the master time factor right in front of your EYE ballz.
He teaches you the fib spiral first with 619, then he teaches you
the master time factor of 192 CD, then finally teaches you the law
of seven, ie the law of vibration. His tunnel kept pilot sleeping
for seven days, his gas seven, on page 238 Gann discusses the law of
three, with his positive, negative, neutral principles, the Do, FA,
LA vibration, which deny, consolidate, and shock price levels. Gann
sent his hero to Paris to keep him from losing his brain for thirty
one days, 31 divided by the master time factor is 1618, he again is
teaching you the fib spiral, which by the way is governed by the law
of octaves in pascals triangle. Our other master guru, George Bayer
knew the 192 day cycle, Bayer says the THING that moves the wheel is
engraved on every violin made, go check that out, and see it is the
moons node, the retro guy who goes backward 360 degrees every
18.924024 days, and the 192 day cycle times 36 cycles is that moons
node return. Knowing this time factor is only half of the gordion
knot, I recommend you to the book Cosmic Secrets by Russell Smith,
the best ever writtin on trading, learn the octaves and inner
octaves, and then apply your time factor to get your gravity points
where the price happily runs to every day without fail. At any
moment in a markets action, it is simply moving to a gravity center
between to stopinders on the diatonic scale, if you want the minute
movment, calculate the minute octave, if you want the hourly
movements caculate the hourly octaves and if you want the general
direction of the market calculate the day time angles, is is simply
wheels within wheels, I prefer octaves within octaves, between any
two vibrations are inner octaves and inner octaves and inner octaves
and inner octaves and inner octaves, Learn that book and you have
the Gann dillemna solved. Let the hate mail Begin
Mercury I Sun 57910 87.97 7.00 0.21 -- (0)
Venus II Sun 108200 224.70 3.39 0.01 -- (0)
Earth III Sun 149600 365.26 0.00 0.02 - - (0)
Mars IV Sun 227940 686.98 1.85 0.09 - - (0)
Jupiter V Sun 778330 4332.71 1.31 0.05 -- (0)
Saturn VI Sun 1429400 10759.50 2.49 0.06 -- (0)
Uranus VII Sun 2870990 30685.00 0.77 0.05 Herschel 1781 (0)
Neptune VIII Sun 4504300 60190.00 1.77 0.01 Adams(9) 1846 (0)
Pluto IX Sun 5913520 90550 17.15 0.25 Tombaugh 1930 (0)

Here is some proof the 192 cycle is valid, it appears there is some
significane with Uranus, it is the seventh planet, giving to the law
of vibration, also it is synodic period is seven octaves of 12
signs, months. Also there is 18 days slippage of a perfect harmonic
from 192 calendar days. 84 times 365.25 plus 21 days for leap give
you 30702, 192 times 160 gives 30720, eighteen days off a perfect
octave of 160. 2.618 plus 1 gives 3.618, the root of this number is
1.902, this ratio is sared as it describes the diagonal of a golden
rectangle, also it describes the side of the pyramid of Giza, the
south furthest south angle from the top to the base. Using the
planetary data up above, starting with mercury. Get the ratios
between each two planets. 87.97 / 224.7 / 365.2 / 686.98 /
4332.71 / 10759.5 / 30685 / 60190 / 90550

.391, .618, .531, .158, .402, .350, .509, .667, add these numbers
for 3.626, square root 1.904 proving the cycle validity. It proves
up the circle, the earth year, the moon cycle, proves up a lot
things. Notice that nine ojbects have EIGHT ratios between, once
again the Diatonic Octave, Do, Re, Me, Fa, So, La, Ti, Do
mercury, venus, earth, mars,jupiter, saturn, neptune, uranus, pluto.
When you add the Son, i mean sun, perhaps Sol, Osirus, notice how
Horus, the winged messenger, sits so close to parents, Osirus and
Isis. If you take the reciprocal of 3.618, 1 / 3.618 you get 2763957
Now divide that by the time factor 192, and you get 144, Ganns
master time and price chart, the square of 12. The knowledge of the
ancients is beyond comprehension. I recommend everybody read some of
the builder of the CORAL CASTLE in Florida, try to figure out how
this one hundred pound man moved over 31 tons of Coral, and overcame
the laws of something we know nothing, Gravity, with laws we also
know nothing about. In George Bayers four hundred years of astrology
on page 142 and 182 he makes a couple interesting statements about
what activates the agency in nature. Our universe makes the wildest
science fiction look like a Dr Suess book.

Poor Hero Gordon, his precious Marie giving the greasy eye to
another fellow, causing Bobbie much of a troubled heart, making him
punish the only one he wants, go figure that. Speaking of Masons, in
one very old book, a young farmer asked the strange older guy, are
you a Mason ?, the guys, yes I am, What is a Mason ?, A builder, A
builder of what ?, A temple, A temple to what ?. If you read the
very old books on Freemasonry, you will read paragraph after
paragraph in the Tunnel, written word for word from these older
books. Mr Gann certainly was in possession of very occult and
esoteric knowledge, the way Mr Gann obtained much of this knowledge
was not of his own intellect, although no one denies his mind was
brilliant, this lends itself even more to the idea that Mr Gann
obtained his knowledge from the web of creation, the source if you
will, I dont like to name it, so I wont. The information that I
impart to you and write about, is not of my own intellect either, I
get it from the web of creation. If this offends you, I apologize,
if not drink deep, cause its the truth. The master charts are a a
very cool thing when used right. First off the idea to get out of
your head is to stop looking at those charts, plastic overlays,
spirals charts as flat things, in your mind pick each one of them up
with your thumb and forefinger at the very center, and LIFT it up,
do this in your mind with every master chart you have, Give them
Height, width, length, dimension, depth, and transparency, Lift them
up like pyramids. Here is one idea, tape the master square of 144 up
on your ceiling, let it hang from the ceiling, walk to the side of
it, looking at the plastic chart from its edge, very thin now, with
your hands reach out to either side of it, and grab it in the
middle, pulling it out in opposite directions, now you have a ball,
sphere, but keep the lines on this ball, the angles are now wrapped
all around this ball. In your mind STEP inside this holographic
sphere, and look around as your standing inside the center, and look
out thru every angle, rotating yourself like a spinning vector, this
is the fourth dimension of trading, now imagine the price action
running around this holographic square of 144 converted into a
global sphere. Here now is the missing element that I have never
heard discussed before, When your trying to use these charts, for
example, you need the use the master time factor that I wrote about
previously, you can easily use ANY square, when ONCE the market
under observation is SET in TIME correctly, when this is done, it
does not matter what square you use, math is math. Example, square
of 144, when you are day trading, you use hours, when 144 hours
runs, out most people talk of returning the time back to zero, on
the bottom left of the square, stop doing this, run the market up
from the bottom right corner to the top right corner, when that 144
time runs out, run the market from the top right corner to the top
left corner, and when that runs out, run it down the fourth side
from the top left to the bottom left or beginning, you calcuate the
price the same way, always running the TIME around and around the
square, from the bottom, up to the top, from the right top the to
the left top, then back down, starting all over again. When you can
do this correctly, you will know what those circles are for that are
within the 144 square. This way you are advancing the market every
twenty four hours along EACH face of the pyramid, grid by grid,
constantly wrapping the Time as it passes thru each section of the
pyramid, calculating the price and time squarings from the different
SIDES of the square, this makes it a revolving sphere, which is what
Gann developed these things. To quote from the movie, "If we live in
gigantic spiral, and we are blueprinted from a sprial, then
EVERYTHING we put our hands to, must be a spiral. Use your 192
calendar count, use your 144 square within this count, and rotate
the time count just like described above, and you will be delighted
at what you see.

Somethings are endemic to the race, such as the need to seek outside
guidance from yourself. We seek everything everywhere outside of
ourselves. We seek the source in a building with a cross on it. We
seek the source from another individuals experience with it. We seek
the source in others writings. But this source is within your own
yard. The more you live in your vehicle body and the more ego you
generate the more separated you are from IT. The more you rely on
your senses the more the illusion becomes. Your senses pick up only a
small portion of the available octave for its vibrational spectrum.
Which is the way the architect desinged it, giving us something in
common, a particular wavelenth, change this dial and behold whats
behind the looking glass. Seek the silence within yourself. On to the
GAnn Meister. I have much of the Gann material, the books, the
courses, the overlays, the hand drawn charts, all kinds of misc stuff
along the periphery. Have you ever notice that NOWHERE does Gann talk
in his courses and books like he speaks in his ticker digest
interview ? These two different pieces of literature are as
diametrically opposed as can be. Why ? Because what is in those
courses is shortcuts designed by him for him. Leaving us in the dark,
so lets put some white light on that. Here is my take on how Gann
traded under observation and in the market pits perhaps, I imagine
Gann holding a Tesla coil in his hand, a Wilhem Reich orgone
generator attached to his a.., and a pyramid on his head. Now in his
brain I see Faradays magnetic lines, complex regression analysis,
fourier transforms, sine waves oscillating back and forth around a
gravity center for bullish and bearish sentiment. Archimedes
geometric solids rotating in three dimension inside his coconut. A
Annunuki mother ship in a holding pattern 618 miles above him
downloading the exact planetary relationships. A lot of folks will
vehemently deny this statement. When Gann beat up the market in his
thirties, he did this with a math model based on comsology of
Ouspensky and Gurdjieff based on time angles. This celestial stuff
came later in life with more experience and research. Remember these
statements, "periodic undulation", "a time factor that repeats", "an
entirely different law works on the ascension as from the
descension", "the forces behind this motion are also under a law or
state of vibration" "stocks are like gravity centers" "they are like
electrons jumping orbits" "each stock has its own vibratory
characteristic", "thus I affirm that all classes of phenomena fall
under this law of vibration" I ask you, have any of you ever read a
book besides the above cosmologists that have ever laid out the law
of vibration for you ?, I doubt it, lots of books use the word
vibration, but hardly a thorough course on what this is and how the
model is laid out. Its music that most closely models this law.
Pythagoras had the law and taught it. Prices simply oscillate around
a rotating vector, ie the time angle, prices get below it, gain it,
recover it, this is what is meant by time or price being ahead of one
another. The idea that certain vibrations need to be shocked for the
ascension, and certain ones need to be shocked for descension is the
different rule Gann spoke of. Electrons have movement to a phenomena
called spin up and spin down. It would be quite easy for Mr Gann to
have in his head the law of octaves, and if trading he only need to
know what time angle is operating, then simply encapsulate the market
price in between two vibrations, then recalculate the octaves and
there is the vibration, ie the prices that the market will bounce off
of. All I do, is take the day time angle, and calculate the all to
nothing octave, then calculate the two inner octaves from this. Find
out where the market is, encapsulate the price between two
vibrations, and from this is the Do, Re, Mi, Fi, So, La, Ti, Do. I
have uploaded a file demonstrating this for the emini today, its a
file called spookygravitycenters. Between the FA SO vibrations is the
exact gravity center of the octave, and notice the price behavior at
it, for the market to get strong its a good sign to see it shock the
SO vibration. I can calculate these prices in three minutes. Just
riding the rock and rotating the time forward is all thats needed.
Count out squares of 192 days from the markets first trading day and
encapsulate the current time and apply the law of octaves as
described in Cosmic Secrets and you will have all the tops and
bottoms at your command. I know all of you think my antenna is bent,
but ONE of you sometime will follow my steps, and you will say, damn,
hes right. Here is the spooky book of the week. "The master key" by
Mr Charles Chuck Hannell, and "Trading in the stillness" by Ricky
Harris, and even a golden but oldie, "Torque Analysis" by Chucky
Garrett. Let the rock roll and the conversations spin.

eye dont think some people are following the foundation of what i am
talking about. im sure some dont care either, but for those who are
trying to get this, here is the time portion of what I do, in theory
and application. the theory is this,
do moonsday
re tuesday
mi wednesday
fa thursday
so friday
la saturday
ti sunday
do monday

most of the world conforms to this week, and we adjust our cycles to
this divisions of night and day over a twenty four revolution of the
earth. since there seven days of the week, this lends itself to the
law of seven, and the diatonic scale is completed with the return of
the eight position. since there are 24 hours in the day, we take the
eight position at 24 hours per day, and we have the above octave
which has 192 hours in it. This we call One octave of time, I stack
24 of these octaves on that one octave, and this gives us 4608 hours,
and this divided by 24 is 192 calendar days, So you ask why do you
stack 24 octaves on this one beginning octave, for the simple reason,
that we are here on this earth, and this is the earths cycle that we
adjust ourselves with. so this is the theory behind the 192 cycle,
and also with the 24 hour revolving of the earth, a lot of gann
students are obsessed with the other planets, but were here, not
there, sure there configurations combined with solar wind and
magnetic force affects us, but its the earths own cyclic behavior
that we are psychology wired up with. so then after we have run out
192 calendar days we have run out 24 octaves of this base day of the
week octave. the number 192 is really not as important as the
understanding of where it comes from. the days of the week being
seven, the hours of the day, being 24, and then twenty four octaves
on top of this base freqeuncy of 192 hours for our base diatonic
octave of the weekday. Which gives us 192 calendar days. this sets up
a good time structure as it moves with the calendar, now gann counted
calendar and trading time on his charts, and there is some truth to
using trading hours, I can make it work to a certain extent, however
it is not even remotely close to the power of following the calendar,
in theory if you want to apply natural science to a market, the the
idea of using trading hours needs to be abandoned. also when gann was
trading the markets, the communication of the world was rather slow
as today, and so the market participants were somewhat regular and
predictable. But with todays global economy, incredible communication
capability and the ability to trade from any househould with internet
capablility makes the stange attractors very chaotic and the only i
know how to tame that is thru the law of octaves as applied from time
angles, constantly rotating time forward when your time is correct.
the practical application of that is obtained by using the first
trading day of your market and then add forward 192 days which we
assume is the return of the octave to its beginning again, and take
the day after this day and add 192 days to that and take the next day
after that day and add 192 again and again until your time is
currently encapsulated inside the square of 192, you want to keep the
squares of 192 separate from one another, do not overlap the number
192 with the number one, separate the squares and rotate them
forward, one by one. this is the theory and the application of what i
have been talking about. The prices are generated from the time
number, ie, the time angle according to the law of octaves at taught
in cosmic secrets. most of you should be able to figure this out own
your own, as i have given some examples of doing this, if your really
interested i will teach you privately over a couple of days. But I
think a good study of that book will give you the method. but let it
be known, I have only scratched the surface of how to apply this, its
enormously powerful, and a good thoughful application further from
what im describing can by made by anybody, consider this, one chart
for any day from 1 to 192 can be made permanent, and as long as your
market is trading inside the numbers for that chart you have, you
have a permanent accurate grid of prices for ALL TIME FOR ANY DAY OF
ANY MARKET ,,,,,,,,,,,, FOREVER.

all nothing octaves, your time is ascertained like this, find the
first trading day for your market in question, i use this website.
timeanddate.com. it does everything. add 192 days to this date, and
from the NEXT DAY, add 192 more and follow this up till your
current. for the emini, you can do two things, use the time count
from the parent market, which is very accurate, or you can use the
date of the emini start time, it also gives very accurate price
projections, or use them both in combination to get very strong
price projections. the theory holds that time positions give prices,
and the balancing centers of the octaves draw prices to them. the
clever person should also see that PRICES give the time when
something to occure in a market, they are intimitely connected, time
and price. page 39 in that book is basically the whole ball of wax.
example, day today is day 110

the emini is somewhere up around 1144,

110,220,440,880,1760
just encapsulate your price from this base frequency.

DO 1760
TI 1540
LA 1173.3 THE ALL TO NOTHING OCTAVE,
SO 880
FA 586.6
MI 440
RE 220
DO 0

NOW, SO VIBRATIONS BECOME DO VIBRATIONS

DO 1760
TI 1650
LA 1466.6
SO 1320 THE INNER SCALE
FA 1173.3
MI 1100
RE 990
DO 880

NOW MI AND SO VIBRATIONS IN THIS SCALE BECOMES DO VIBRATIONS

DO 1320
TI 1292.5
LA 1246.6
SO 1210 THE INNER INNER SCALE
FA 1173.3
MI 1155
RE 1127.5
DO 1100

NOTICE HOW THE MARKET IS TRADING BETWEEN MI AND RE TODAY, BUT LIKE I
SAID, BETWEEN ANY TWO VIBRATIONS NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE, ARE
DIATONIC OCTAVES,

SO HERE IS HOW WE GOT TODAYS VIBRATIONS

DO 1155
TI 1151.5
LA 1145.8
SO 1141.2 TODAYS FREQUENCIES, THE GRAVITY
FA 1136.6 CENTERS
MI 1134.3
RE 1130.9
DO 1127.5

HINT, the more wide the octave is between do vibrations, the more
movement you get, the smaller octaves indicate congestion trading !!!

let the spinning rock do the work for you, smoke the markets, not
the rock, and notice in ganns magic word, on page thirty eight while
he is telling everybody to sing, chant, and VIBRATE THE
YOD HE VAU HE, Gann even tells you to chant and sing the diatonic
octave notes, its right there that his spooky law of vibration is
now known to be the comsmological laws of the universe. the law of
the enneagram. By the way Gann was a master metaphysician as
indicated by the way he writes in that book, Gann speaks about
light, and meditation, divine science he knew.

Since you folks are dominating the conversation, lets bring some
energy on, and this leads us to Billy Williams and his Crocodile.
Williams says that new information is what causes market trends, ie
strange attractors, he says that the markets are at least a seven
dimensional animal, I mean crocodile. He says that markets are where
they are, because that is where they are, and there is no such thing
as technical analysis. Preordained gravity centers from time angles
might have something to say about that. Chucky Drummond says that
there is no such thing as time, they eliminate that factor from
there analysis, he also says that markets are framed by higher time
periods, lower periods being dominated by the energy termination
points of higher time frames, this is a wonderful concept and it
appears to have much truth, since there is no such thing as time,
but there is cyclic rotation of our earth we can take advantage of
this new energy by following the behavior of our earth. Time seems
to be mostly a function of our perception, our awareness needs to
be, for time to be observed, and then the time passes very
differently for all of us, depending on how we filter and process
the enviroment. Chucky Drummond says that his point and line
charting method shows were energy termination points, ie, tops and
bottoms will occur before they occur by using certain lines drawn
from the price bars themselves. He states that the bars themselves
contain energy and thus have forecasting value when certain higher
time frame configurations occur. Interesting for sure, that idea
lends us to Kirlian photography that has shown sublte energy around
the body for many years now. Mr Gann was one of the first to say
that old bottoms will become future tops, and old tops will become
future bottoms, how can this be ?, whether the elapsed time be a
couple hours or twenty years, how can a point of energy in price,
from the past make future traders behave in a certain way when the
same cells are worked over ?, this lends us to this question, People
who have lost limbs, report they still feel and see outlines of
subtle energy where the limb used to be, How can this be ?, this
energy must be not only be present, but it remains polarized at that
time in space where it manifested originally. Gann theory states
that a price level that acted as a pivot, for the rest of time spins
out cycles of the same length in time, now imagine for a moment
every price pivot for any market spinning out time factors forever,
what a complex grid of energy, now imagine trying to track just the
major ones, a task that makes no sense to try. You can see what a
major complex lattice structure each market is. NOw Mr Gann spoke
about markets who are moving into uncharted territory, have to work
out the cells before they can advance, he also said the fourth time
a market trid to break thru a grid of energy, was the time it made
it, why is that you think ?, also Gann used the word, cells, why do
you think he said a market has to work out the cells of uncharted
territory, he knew it was energy spaces that needed to be worked out
by the traders. Imagine Lewis and Clark going into uncharted
territory, you know they were constantly taking feedback from the
terrain and making constant adjustment and decisions from the
environment, now once they laid tracks, and set up the psychic
energy, the next guy and the next were easily able to duplicate the
journey, until it was a worn path. This energy is precisely the same
thing that is happening in the markets, the way to tame this energy,
which is the law of vibration, is to use the law of vibration, which
is the law of octaves, the laws of music theory. Think about why
Gann said "time angles govern price, and the time angles are the
resistance to price", and "these are measure in degrees of
longtitude", ie, the rotating rock, and finally why he
said "everything seeks a balancing center". This 192 calendar day
cycle has 4608 hours of rotation in it, and these hours of rotation
have also very precise gravity centers for something "to happen"
within a market trading session. The word "everything" means
everything, so Gann said that everything that is a thing, seeks a
balancing center.

Eye used to crack up watching Hannibal and his crew bust the nutcase
Murdock out of the mental hospital so they could go on a mission.
Speaking of bent antennas, what I will say next will not do anything
to ease your situation. After studying Gann for fifteen years,
reading everything available, studying with professional traders,
spending all my money on courses, I came to the conclusion, that
everybody had parts of what Gann did, they could use the master time
charts in a couple of specific ways, they did this and that, but
nobody had the basis of what is, what it was, what its based on. I
have meditated for a long time now, I learned how to access the delta
level, and then I was taught how to employ white vibrational light,
when you reach this level of meditation, your awareness of your body
is completely gone, you are deep in the void of yourself, you are a
ball of pulsating energy, when you can visualize and allow yourself
to become a sponge of white vibrational light, you become immersed in
what is a very cool, magnetic, and electric vibrational white light.
Anyway one day in this state, I just told the universe to download
into my brain every bit of market knowledge and information that has
ever been in WD Ganns brain, and not only that but all information
that has ever been about the law of vibration as applied to the
markets. I dont have any lock on this stuff so I share it with you.
Take a look at Mr Gann, does he seem like a good time Charlie to
you ?, does he seem like the kind of guy who liked everybody he met,
treated everybody great, he looks to me like the kind of guy who
didnt take shit from anybody, and probably didnt like to be around
people all the time. In his books he flat out states, that his
knowledge of the law of vibration as applied to the markets is HIS,
and would not be divulged, ever. He states that since he was in a
position to help others with his master time factor and vibrational
laws he offered a service to help people make sound investments. For
anybody who is interested I want to explain what I mean about "the
grid", let me say this, there are many ways to beat the market, once
you can establish one way, you just exploit that until your wealthy.
What I explain to you is the principle of the gann squares, namely
the one called the master 144 price and time chart, I can use the
square of nine, but that is a bit different, and I dont like it for
this discussion. Gann called that square his master time and price
chart, with the year 1955 on it, it has lots of green timing angles,
the only one I have ever seen that is any good are made by Bill
Mclaren. I am going to set up in your mind a model so you can
envision what is happening with those squares, Imagine a globe, now
heat shrink the plastic 144 overylay completely around that globe, to
where this is a perfect fit and no slack, the grid is now wrapped up
in perfect symetry around the sphere. Now make the the sphere
holographic and transparent, and make it have depth, now imagine
yourself sitting in front of this rotating sphere with all the grid
lines on it, holographic. Now that we have that picture, try this,
imagine this globe being solid in front of you, rotating like the
earth does, now we are going to watch a market session unfold on this
ball, the bell rings and out opens up section of 6.75 hours of space
on this grid, the price inside this square according to where its at
the time of the market session. This is the FACE OF THE GRID that is
in operation for that market duration. The lines and angles only on
that particular grid session dominate and control that sessions price
activity, its a unique roller coaster. The market closes, the face of
the grid closes up, and the ball returns to normall with no windows
open, the earth moves forward and the ball moves around. 24 hours
elapsed of earth rotation, and the market opens up again, and
immediately a new section of the grid appears, 6.75 hours of unique
angle configuration with the price encapsulated in it. This is the
face of this new session, and these angles dominate the price action.
Every day a new piece of the grid opens up for that market session,
so here is what Im saying, only a SWEEPING piece of grid dis-covers
the market action for the duration of trading time. Just a sweeping
pass of that very busy and complex grid. The way to mimick four
dimensional price time trading is to rotate your market around and
around the gann grid, each side at one time being the BOTTOM
according to which square your in, you advance 24 hours across the
grid every day, all days, according to the 192 master time factor, I
have a square of 192, or you can use that 144 square. This way your
just using a conical slice or section of the grid as it passes over
and over and around the ball, but because our Gann square is flat, we
mimick this four dimensional rotating ball describe above by doing
what I just described. This leads me talk about this emini market
today, This time period of 4608 hours has time gravity centers in it,
an this is what happens, like today, when the TIME VIBRATIONS DO NOT
FALL WITH THE TRADING SESSION the market gets flat, like today the
first hour was a time gravity point, and the next gravity point fell
out past the 6.75 trading session. So the market got going for a
while but the energy was gone, and the market meandered around the
gravity center, now what is happening is this, the TIME VIBRATIONS
ENERGIZE the trading participants, the price frequencies are
generated from the time angles, but the time vibrations themselves
are the gas for the traders. When you have two or three good shocks
of time vibrations WITHIN THE TRADING SESSION, this is what makes the
moves good and fast, liquid, and fluid. Again, so you can follow what
im saying, ONLY A SECTION OF THE GRID PASSES THRU EACH TRADING
SESSION, THIS IS TRUE FOR TIME AND PRICE. Now perhaps you understand
why the strange attractors are so wild, because the market opens up
on a new face of the structure, the gann grid, the enneagram, the
sacred lines of geometry, which are ALL encapsulated on the master
time and price chart. Here is what Gann would have developed if he
was born in the age of the integrated circuit, the final frontier,
gann was a proponent of being progressive, as he said the man who
does not continue to learn and study and try new things, will not
make a success, because he refuses to admit he does not know all
there is to know, so being progressive is good, and Gann was
progressive, as you see he made four dimensional model of a plastic
chart. The computer programmer who can perform this miracle of a
three dimensional holographic sphere, rotating, constantly in front
of you, with all the master time and price times lines on it,
revolving in and in front of you, passing away from you and going
round and round, so you constantly see the face of the grid that is
ACTIVE for the session under consideration will have in their
possession the most sophisticated and accurate trading model for time
and price analysis that has every come down the pike from the
spiritual realm. It would rotate at one degree every four minutes, or
whatevery time speed you wanted it at, and the price would fall and
rise according to the angles in operation for the specified period,
this would all be done with the 192 calendar period, and the 4608
time gravity centers would be on the grid, the octaves frequencies
would be lit up, this way you would know instantly which TIME
VIBRATIONS AND WHICH PRICE VIBRATIONS ARE ACTIVE FOR THE SWEEP OF THE
GRID FOR THE MARKET SESSION. You could be in a position over the
market with such power, because you will never have to chase it, you
will know when the press the market and when to leave it alone.
Madness I tell you, but truthfull madness. Remember Gann said, the
man who does not change his mind, will soon have no change to mind.
Profits are kind of crazy with a spooky little price like you !!
Try to get this inside of your mind, The time and price grids are
PERMANENT, the only thing that makes them seem different is the TIME
position, where is IT, in the procession, this is repetition in
perfection, but it hides itself because of the TIME factor.
Everything is going this time and price grid, but its the difference
in the time position that makes it appear different.

The book how to make profits on commodities should have been named,
How i use the law of octaves in combination with time angles to get
very accurate buy and sells. This post should gain me even some more
unpopularity, and the reason is because what Im showing you is
anticlimactic in a sense, because the search is over, the law of
vibration is now exposed for what it really is, I have showed you
how to square price and time with the master charts, what the true
forty five degree angles really are, how history repeats on a grid
of permanent resistance points for time and price. I have shown you
in real time how the market absolutely goes to predetermined
mathematical points of force even before the traders take it there.
Eye suspect some of you who follow my posts and work,realize that
indeed I am showing you how Mr Gann made 286 trades with 264 trades
being profitable. Cause that is exactly what Im showing you, you
will never see this work duplicated anywhere, unless of course you
do it yourself. This is the first time that the law of vibration has
been demonstrated in print and in real time as exactly Mr Gann
employed and deployed it. In that book HOw to make profits, on page
twenty four, the Gannster says "nature balances everything", and he
says it on page twenty four, Screaming at you, that the rotating
rock and its 24 hour repititive cycle is the KEY to it all. on page
30 the Gannster makes a comment about the square of nine and how our
earth year falls along the circle of geometry, he alludes to the
Masonic royal cross, the heavenly passing of the sun shocking the
seasons. Read page 34 and see how Gann tells you about Faradys
mathematical points of force, and all tops and bottoms are in
relation to some PREVIOUS HIGH OR LOW, LOL, this is not exactly
true. Although it is when you do not ride the rock and turn the
wheel. On page 34 under the title of Range of Fluctuations, GAnn
made a mockery of his true law of vibration and gave his readers a
very poor cheap imitation of the LAW. Dividing a range by the number
eight is the most ridiculous thing, but Gann was not going to give
it up. The entire Murrey Math system is primarily based on the
paragraph right there, taking a perfect fractal and making octave
shift changes as it moves thru its harmonic intervals, however with
one HUGE mistake, it does not apply and take into consideration the
retardation within the diatonic scale that occurs between the Mi Fa
and Ti DO vibrations, and of course they do not have the 192 day
calendar cycle. On page 36 mr Gann speak of the whole ball of wax
right there, giving up the FA SO vibrations the true gravity center,
and he also makes reference of the 2/3 or .666666666666 being the
position between vibrations that takes it to the next vibration. On
page 37 mr Gann gives up one of the most Fantastic and failsafe ways
to nail price levels, especially because he knew that price levels
were preodained. on page 38 he makes a tremendous statement about
the gravity center and he also uses the ROCK as his example, he also
gave up the key in the magic word on page 38, where he tells you use
the notes DO, RE, MI. On page 42 and 43 mr Gann talks about the Law
of the Trines, the Forces of the Diatonic scale, Do, FA, LA, the
positive negative and neutral principles of the Universe. Take a
good look at the book, and what is all about, nothing but Time
angles, and resistance levels, and gravity centers, but he tells you
that you have to keep a record of all the activity to keep informed
about levels from the past, as they are going to repeat, which is
true, he fails to tell you that you only need to use the master time
factor and apply the laws of vibration as you ride the rock and spin
the wheel forward. By doing this you automatically dis-cover the
price levels that must be shocked again as the wheel moves past the
same point it has in the past, LOL, in the words of Russell
Smith, "shocking isnt it", You the man Russell, you the man. Go to
page 32 and read the sentence by Gann. "You must apply time cycles
and time rules" he didnt you should, or it helps, he said
you "must". But then he didnt tell you how to do that did he ?. Like
I said before, there is not such thing as time, there is only rock
rotation in longtitude and revolution. Imagine the grand architect
holding billions of worlds, billions of life forms, billions of
years, billions of galaxies in his I M A G E ination, all passing in
his mind like a blink our eyes, and looks my way and says, "what
time you got buddy", and I say why its 1:44 pm, and he says, "yeah
right", lol. Take care you all

Or Commander Cody says "never argue with a fool, cause he might be

doing the same thing". The ever cryptic Gannster, most clever
indeed, but perhaps not clever enough for the trained eye ball. Gann
being schooled in the Kabbalistic, Hermetic, and Rosy Cross
philosophy adopted the code and smybolic writing style of the priest
craft throughout history. In Ganns magic word he is teaching you
about sympathetic resonance as he speaks about your voice sending
its wants and desires throughout the universe when you ring the
sacred word "Jehovah", He tells you that this word rings "three"
sylablles, and contains "seven" letters. Here he is trying to teach
you the law of vibration with law of seven and three. The very laws
you are learning in Cosmic Secrets. He speaks much of RADIO and how
is it possible to send stuff thru air without being able to see it.
Then he reminds you to not rely on your own EYE BALLZ so much,
because that sensory organ is quite deceptive at times as to the
truth of our universe. He speaks of illusions, pranic breathing, and
mostly the law of correspondence, ie "as above so below". Now I know
lots of you who read what eye right, say to yourselves "this
harmonic guy kind of weird, talk kinda crazy, say goofy things", in
your mind your saying to yourselves "can this 192 day calendar cycle
be the master factor or is this guys antenna just seriously bent ?"
How bout we bend the space time continuum and turn to page 192 in
how to make profits, and read under time cycles, We look at Gann
telling us to watch for the six and seven months for a change of
trend, now this is kinda vague, but its not so vague when you
consider the half point between six and seven months is very close
to 192 days. Now the Gann mann wrote a book called the wall street
stock selector, now turn to page 192 in that book and I will quote
the gannster here "CURTISS WRIGHT, THE TWO LEADING COMPANIES IN THE
BUSINESS WERE WRIGHT AND CURTISS. CURTISS MADE EXTREME LOW IN AUGUST
1921 WHEN IT SOLD AT 1 1/8. THEN ADVANCED TO EXTREME HIGH IN MAY,
1928 WHEN IT SOLD AT 192 3/4. LATER IT WAS CONSOLIDATED WITH WRIGHT
AEROPLANE COMPANY. THE WRIGHT BROTHERS BUILT THE FIRST AIRPLANE IN
THE UNITED STATES AND MADE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL FLIGHT" #$%$&*$@#!
$$##@#^&%*^$#@##$%&&^^%%, are you friggin kiddin me, a reference on
page 192 with a stock that went from 1 to 192, lol. Hmmmmmmmmm, who
was these brothers who had eagles in there heart ?, but of course
they was one of the first "tunnelers thru the air". Gann was in love
with this stock called "radio", he talks about it with great
affection saying it will be a leader again. This stock accurately
describes the law of vibration. So Gann is very sympathetic with it,
he speaks about it the way a sports better bets with his heart,
knowing full well his team has no chance to win. You folks are going
to make so much snap buying and selling these gravity centers your
going to be surrounded with cement ponds and movie starz.

Yes there are lines of force that are active during the market
session. These are gotten from the Gann Grids, ie squares, I use the
square of 192, however the 144 is also valid. The reasoning why they
are valid is because we base everything on 24 hours of revolution,
we only stack 24, 48, 96, 120, 144, 168, 192, and so into infinity,
we never would use a fraction of a day, because that would throw off
our price frequencies. The reasoning behind this is that we want to
be dynamic and we want real time calculations, we want to ride the
rock forward. For whatever market you like and whatever exchange it
resides at is irrelavant. When that market started, at that point in
time a mathematical signature was created, a vibration was set up
that forever puts out a frequency that is based on 24 hour harmonics
from that base vibration. Now back to those gann grids you asked
about. Every day for the market session a section of the grid is
active, this is what Gann said when these angles are "active", You
can use the 144 grid as it is alignment with the 24 hour frequency,
or you can use the 192 grid which is the master repeating time
factor. Let me digress for a moment and tell you why the grids are
as they are. Papus wrote a book called "the tarot of the bohemians"
he says its the absolute key to occult science, he was a very
learned initiate. He says that the gypsies used the tarot to divine
the future with these cards, the reasoning behind these cards is
they contain everything that is in the collective unconscious of
mankind. They are archetypal symbology of the nature of everything.
Now back to these gann grids, these grids are a combination of
sacred geometry, they contain the enneagram, they contain circles,
triangles, squares, they are a conglomaration of all these ideas and
mathematical lines of force. In essence they are archetypal
symbology of trading patterns, traders psyche for a given point in
space and time. This is why nobody can use them correctly is for
that reason, they cannnot set them in time correctly. Now the charts
are so busy, that you can put one on a high or low and you see it
square it out, but its mostly hit and miss. In my earlier post I
spoke of how to use them in the fourth dimension of trading, how to
mimick that idea. So to answer your question, Yes we have the law of
octaves which is the price frequencies I show on the chart, the gann
grids show the active lines, and you could draw them on the chart, I
just look at the section that is active and get an idea as to what
lines are dominating, ist just a companion to the law of octaves.
NOw on to your question about time and price squaring, yes price and
time square up all the time, this happens in a number of different
ways, the one i demonstrated was one where the price and time were
in equilibrium, they were the same number, this happens often, but
it also reverse the trend on other numbers and configurations, this
is what Gann said when he said, I use mathematical sequencing, as
there are relationships between points of squarings. On to your time
question, yes the times of when the highs and lows can be gotten
also, this is just done with the law of octaves. The time when
something is going to happen is just another balancing act or center
that is calculated from ....... I have given hints as to how this
id done in my charts and posts. Reread my post and more will come to
you. I have laid down the basic idead as to how to apply the law of
vibration to a market, the more advanced theory and application will
only be imparted on a one to one basis, where I can show you over
many hours and charts how the price and time squares up, how to use
the master charts, how to get the time balancing centers and more,
in essence all that I know. Well now all this good vibrational talk
gears me up for a listen to the beach boys classic rock tune. Light
speed everybody