Cat 365C Vs Komatsu PC6507

Product Comparison –PC365CL vs PC650-7
Introduction
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative
The 365CL is the successor of the 365BL Series II. The The PC650-7 is a heavy-duty version of the PC600-7. The
365CL meets the EPA Tier II Emission Regulations as PC650-7/PC600-7 are the successor of the PC600-6/PC650-6
standard. The engine horsepower and hydraulic performance and were introduced in Japan on Sept. '03. The engine and
are the same as the 365BL. engine horsepower are the same as the former models.
Photo C-01: 365CL Overview (PICT2510) Photo P-01: PC650-7 Overview (PICT2133)
Product Comparison Section - Machine Configurations
Make Caterpillar KOMATSU
Model 365CL PC650-7

Metric Metric English
Heading Unit English Unit Unit Unit Unit
Value Value Value
Boom 7.8 m 25 8 ft in 7.8 m 25 8 ft in
Stick 3.6 m 11 10 ft in 3.5 m 11 6 ft in
Bucket Capacity m3 0.00 yd3 m3 0.00 yd3
Bucket Tip Radius 2050 mm 2749 in 2143 mm 2874 in
Bucket Width 1600 mm 2146 in 1690 mm 2266 in
Service Hours hours 293 hours
Undercarriage (Standard/Long) LC STD
Shoe Width 650 mm 872 in 600 mm 805 in
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Performance
Engine Horsepower
• The C15 engine on the 365CL features higher engine • The SAA6D140E3 engine on the PC650-7 uses
horsepower by 5% than the PC650-7. traditional fuel injection system and does not have the
• The Cat C15 engine incorporates CAT ACERT capability to meet EPA Tier III Emission Regulations.
Technologies that can meet EPA Tier III Emission • The engine horsepower is less than the 365CL.
Regulations.
Photo P-02: SAA6D140E3 Engine (PICT2379)

Photo C-02: C15 Engine (PICT2569)
Make Caterpillar
Model 365CL PC650-7

Metric English Metric English
Heading Unit Unit Unit Unit
Value Value Value Value
Engine Model cat c15 Komatsu SAA6D140E-3
Type 4 cycle 6 cylinder DI ATAAC 4 cycle 6 cylinder DI Water cooled AC
Displacement 15.2 liter 927.561 in3 15.24 liter 930.002 in3
Rated Speed(rpm) 1800 1800
Rated Power (Rated Output) 302 kW 405 HP 287 kW 385 HP
Max. Torque 210 kg-m 1519 ft-lb kg-m 0 ft-lb
Emission Regulations
(Tier-Stage) EPA Tier III EPA Tier II
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Hydraulic System
• The 3-pump system is used on the 365CL. This system • The pump arrangement of the PC650-7 is the 2-pump
features excellent simultaneous operation with swing and system which is the same arrangement as for the medium
implement/travel because the swing circuit including the class excavators.
swing pump is completely independent of main pumps for • The PC650-7 uses the pilot operated OLSS
the implement and travel. (Open-Center Load Sensing System) hydraulic system that
• The 365CL uses electrically controlled PPPC valve was used to Mid size class excavators long time before.
system to improve controllability and efficiency.
Photo P-03: Pilot operated OLSS Hydraulic System

Photo C-03: Electrically controlled PPPC Valve System (PICT2439
(365c-0296)
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Hydraulic Pump Flow
• The main pump discharge flow except from the swing • Because the PC650-7 does not provide the swing pump,
pump is the 800liter/min which is similar to the PC650-7. the total amount of hydraulic oil flow is 820liter, which is
However, the total amount of the flow including from the 41% less flow than the 365LC.
swing pump is 1160liter/min, which is 41% more flow than • The system pressure is 31.9MPa. The system pressure
the PC650-7. can be increased by activating the One-Touch Pressure Up
• The system pressure is 32MPa which is the similar to system. When this system is activating, the system pressure
the PC650-7. The Heavy-Lift mode is also provided to the is 34.3MPa. This pressure is slightly lower than 35MPa
365CL. When the Heavy-Lift mode is activated, the system which is the system pressure when the H/L mode on the
pressure is increased to 35MPa. 365C is activated.
Photo C-04: Hydraulic Pumps (IMG-7540)
Photo P-04: Hydraulic Pumps (PICT2275)
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Product Comparison Section - Hydraulic Pump Flow
Main Pump
Make Caterpillar
Model 365CL PC650-7

Metric Metric English English Metric Metric English English
Heading
Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit
Model Variable Displacement Piston Variable Displacement Piston
Number of Pumps 2 2
Max. Pressure 32000 kPa 4641.28 psi 31900 kPa 4626.78 psi
Max. flow per One Pump 400 L/min 105.67 gal/min 410 L/min 108.31 gal/min
Swing Pump
Make Caterpillar
Model
Metric Metric English English Metric Metric English English
Heading
Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit
Model Variable Displacement Piston Not Available
Number of Pumps 1
Max. Pressure 28000 kPa 4061.12 psi kPa 0.00 psi
Max. flow per One Pump 360 L/min 95.10 gal/min L/min 0.00 gal/min
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Cooling Capability
• The variable speed cooling fan driven by the hydraulic • Fan speed depends on engine speed because the fan is
motor is adapted to the 365CL to improve cooling efficiency directly connected to the engine via the fan belt.
and reduce noise. • The radiator, oil cooler and the fuel cooler/condenser for
• The radiator and oil cooler are arranged side-by-side. air-conditioning system are arranged in series. This type of
The after cooler is situated in front of the radiator/oil cooler. the cooling unit is unfavorable in accessing the cooling core.
The condenser for the air-conditioning system is
independently located from the cooling unit
Photo C-05: Side-by-Side layout Cooling Unit

(IMGP0862)
Photo P-05: Tandem layout Cooling Unit (PICT2304
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Boom Cylinder Position
The rod end of the boom cylinder is positioned to the boom The rod end of the boom cylinder is positioned to the boom
side. side.
Photo C-06: 365CL Boom Cylinder (PICT2553) Photo P-06: PC650-7 Boom Cylinder (PICT2172)
Styling
Photo C-09: Front View (PICT2510) Photo P-09: Front View (PICT2133)
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Photo C-10: Right View (PICT2543) Photo P-10: Right View (PICT2124)
Photo P-11: Rear View (PICT2126)

Photo C-11: Rear View (PICT2542)
Photo P-12: Left View (PICT2131)

Photo C-12: Left View (PICT2506)
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Appearance
• The cab which is newly designed for future models is • The cab is newly designed for the -7 Series or “GALEO”
adopted. Series.
• Large “CAT” logo is placed on the counterweight • The stripes on the left side panel is differed from the
former model.
Photo C-13: New Cab for next generation excavators Photo P-13: Newly designed Cab (PICT2258)
(PICT2514)
Photo P-14: Black Strips for -7 Series (PICT2145)

Photo C-14: Cat Logo on the Counterweight (PICT2579)
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Versatility
Vehicle Configurations
Various configurations are provided to the 365CL to meet • Three boom options are available to the
wide variety of applications at highest efficiency. PC600-7/PC650-7. However, 7.66m boom cannot be
available to the PC650-7.
Vehicle: Backhoe • Four stick options are available to the
U/C: LC PC600-7/PC650-7, but only two stick options (3.5m and
Boom: Reach(7.8m), Mass(6.59m) 2.9m) are available to the PC650-7.
Stick: R4.67, R4.15, R3.6, R2.84, M3.0, M2.57
C/W: 10.05ton, 9.3ton, Vehicle: Backhoe, Front Shovel
U/C: STD LC
Boom: 7.66m(Only for PC600-7), 7.3m(Only for PC650-7

only), 6.6m(Mass Excavation)
Stick: 5.2m, 4.3m, 3.5m, 2.9m(Use with Mass Boom)

C/W
Photo C-15: Front Linkage (PICT2534)
Photo P-15: Front Linkage (PICT2167)
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Stackable Valves
The stackable valve function that is provided to the Mid The PC650-7 does not provide the stackable valve function.
series excavators is not provided to the 365CL. However, one
auxiliary valve is standard for the 365CL.
Photo P-16: Main Control Valve (PICT2439)
Photo C-16: Main Control Valve (365C-0296)
Tool Control System

The tool control system is not provided to the 365CL. The PC650-7 also does not provide the tool control system.
Boom and Stick

The operators/customers can select optimum lengths of Three boom options and four stick options are advertised for
booms and sticks to provide the maximum performance from the PC600-7/PC650-7. However, only two boom options and
combination of two booms and six sticks. two stick options are available to the PC650-7. Also, two
boom options and four stick options are available to the
Boom: Reach(7.8m), Mass(6.59m) PC600-7. As a result, the PC600-7/PC650-7 has fewer
Stick: R4.6, R4.15, R3.6, R2.82, M3.0, M2.57 combinations of the booms and sticks than the 365CL.
Boom: 7.66m( Only for PC600-7), 7.3m(Only for

PC650-7 only), 6.6m(Mass Excavation)
Stick: 5.2m(Use w/7.66m), 4.3m(Use w/7.66m), 3.5m,
2.9m(Use with Mass Boom)
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Auxiliary Hydraulics
Full range of the versatility is provided to the booms and The booms and sticks do not have the provision of installing
stick as standard. All booms and sticks have the provision of auxiliary hydraulic lines as standard. If the hammer line is
installing high pressure lines, medium pressure lines, drain required the specially designed front linkage is required. OR
lines and coupler lines. Because the bosses for installing welding the bosses to the front linkage in the field is
various lines are provided in advance, field installation can required.
be accomplished with less down-time and at low cost.
Photo C-17: Capability to install Auxiliary Lines

(365C-0088)
Photo P-17: Stick without capability to install Auxiliary
Lines (PICT2174)
Auxiliary Pump
The 365CL has the capability to installing the auxiliary pump It is unclear if the auxiliary pump can be installed.
as standard.
Photo C18: Main Pump (IMG-7538)

Photo P18: Main pumps (PICT2277)
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Ease of Operation
Cab Layout
• The switches and selectors which are frequently used are • The switches are located to the right console, left console
centralized to the right side of the operator. The operator and on the monitor panel. The operator needs to stoop to
can easily access the switches and selectors without access the switches on the monitor panel.
stooping. • Because of the wider monitor, there is risk that the knee
• Wider clearance between the seat and the footrest present interferes with the monitor.
the comfortable foot space to the operator.
• Narrower monitor prevents the interference with the knee.
Photo C-19: Right side Switches Panel (365c-0159)

Photo P-19: Switches on Monitor (PC800 PDSCF1012)
Photo P-20: Switches on Left Console (PC800 PDSCF1016)
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Photo P-21: Switches on Right Console (PC800
PDSCF1020)
Monitor
• The monitor enclosure is compact so that it does not • The monitor cannot adjust its angle due to no tilt
obstruct front visibility. However, wide area of the monitor mechanism.
screen presents excellent visibility to the operator. • Because of the striking keypad color, monitor screen is
• The monitor can be adjusted so that the monitor screen hard to see.
faces to the operator by tilting the monitor. The tilt • Frequently used switches such as travel speed and wiper
mechanism can also be used to prevent the reflection of the are on the monitor. The operator needs to stoop to operate
unnecessary light. these switches.
• The keypad is equipped with a cover and also the
display screen is simple, which helps prevent the operator
from misleading.
Photo C-22: Monitor Overview (385C CDSCF1734) Photo P-22: Monitor Overview (PC800 PDSCF1012)
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Photo C-23: Monitor Tilting Mechanism (385C Photo P-23: No tilting mechanism (PC800 PDSCF1060)
CDSCF1771)
Monitor Display
• The monitor screen is a full graphic dot matrix display • The display screen is a full graphic dot matrix display
screen and has larger display area with 70mm in width screen which is the same as the 365CL. But the screen
and 125mm in length. is smaller than that of the 365CL with 77mm in width
• The screen is easy to see due to high contrast and and 55mm in length.
simple with black background. • The background of the screen is brightened. This causes
low contrast and unclear display screen. Especially, in
the direct sunlight, it’s almost impossible to read.
Photo C-24: Display Screen (157-5703)
Photo P-24: Display Screen (PC800 PDSCF1015)
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Monitor Language Display
• The monitor has a capability to display linguistic • Because the monitor on the PC650-7 does not have the
information. One of the 27 languages can be selected capability to display the language, warning information
through the monitor functions. is displayed only by icons. But, using the icons that are
• Warning information is shown with both of the icon and not familiar to the operator has a risk of
the language. This helps the operator intuitive understanding misunderstanding.
and to prevent misunderstanding.
Photo C-25: Language display capability (320D PICT0086)

Photo P-25: Warning information by Icon (PC450-7
P05239)
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Information Display
• With the default screen, the display is very simple • The default screen is complex because the switches
because the only machine status is displayed on the screen. status is displayed on the screen in addition to the
• When abnormality is occurred, the warning information machine status.
window is displayed on the default screen. If the • When abnormality is occurred, the icon is displayed on
abnormality is urgent, the master lamp will be blinked and the default screen. The monitor has the alarm function,
alarm will be also activated, so that the operator can notice but does not have the master lamp. It has the possibility
the urgency immediately. to miss alarm sound in a noisy environment. As a
result, there is risk that the operator does not notice the
urgency.
Photo C-26: Default Screen (157-5703)
Photo P-26: Default Screen (PC450-7 P05258)
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Work Mode
Because of the following reasons, the work mode is not The PC650-7 does not provide the Work Mode.
necessary to the 3865CL.
The 3-pump system adapted to the 365CL provides

independent swing circuit from the implement. The discharge
flow from the swing pump depends on swing lever stroke.
This means that the swing priority is varied by the swing
lever stroke. And this is the same function as the automatic
priority function which is adapted to the Mid size class
excavators.
Photo C-27: 3 pump System on 385C (IMG-7556)
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Joystick
• The 365CL uses the electrically operated joysticks. • The joystick is the pilot operated type.
• Because the height adjustment mechanism and a tilt • The armrest provides the tilt mechanism, but does not
mechanism are provided to the armrest, the operator can provide the height adjustment mechanism, which can
adjust the relative relationship between the joysticks and the cause uncomfortable posture. In addition, the armrest is
armrest so that the operator can operate the joysticks in a installed to the backrest of the seat. Changing the
comfortable posture. reclining angle of the seatback changes the relative
relationship between the joysticks and the armrest.
Photo C-28: Electrical Joystick with Height Adjustable

Armrest (365C-0102) Photo P-28: Pilot Operated Joystick (PC800 PDSCF1005)
Photo P-29: Armrest (PC800 PDSCF1035)
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Cab Accessories
Drink Holder Drink Holder
The drink holder is positioned on the right front of the cab, Because the drink holder is situated behind the seat, it is hard
just under the monitor. This position allows the operator to for the operator to access. This position is not practical.
access drink easily.
Photo C-30: Drink Holder (385C CDSCF1736) Photo P-30: Drink Holder (PC800 PDSCF1042)
Accumulated Hour Meter Accumulated Hour Meter
The accumulated hour meter is located under the monitor, Accumulated hour is indicated only on the monitor.
allowing of confirming it from outside of the cab. In Confirming the accumulated hours is required to turn the
addition, the accumulated hour meter can be displayed on the power on.
monitor.
Photo P-31: Accumulated Hour Meter displayed on the

Photo C-31: Accumulated Hour Meter (385C CDSCF1742) Monitor (PICT2342)
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Convenient Accessories
Skylight
• The wider skylight of 795mm in width and 440mm in • The dimensions of the skylight are 695mm in width and
length is provided to the 365CL. 490mm in length.
• Because the head guard is installed on the cab, the fixed • The skylight is fixed type. The sliding sunshade is
type skylight is provided to this vehicle. provided to the skylight, but the sunshade to the front
• The retractable sunshade provided to the 365CL can windshield is not provided.
cover not only the skylight, but also upper-half of the front
windshield.
Photo P-32: Fixed type Skylight with sunshade (PICT2347
Photo C-32: Fixed type Skylight with Sunshade (385C

CDSCF1578)
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Visibility
Upper Visibility Upper Visibility
• The wider skylight of 795mm in width and 440mm in The upper-front visibility is obstructed because of an
length provides broad upper visibility to the operator. upper-front pillar on the cab.
• Because there is not an upper-front pillar, the cab
provides excellent upper-front visibility with no
obstacle.
Photo C-33: Upper Visibility (IMG-7623) Photo P-33: Upper Visibility (PICT2346)
Wiper Sweep Area Wiper Sweep Area
• The longest wiper blade, which moves in a • The wiper blade of the upper wiper is 550mm in length,
parallelogram, is provided to the 365CL. and sweep area is 0.396m2, which sweeps only 38% of the
• The width of the wiper is 1220mm, and sweep area is front windshield.
0.83m2, which sweeps 79% of the front windshield. • The lower wiper is not provided to the PC650-7.
• Therefore, the lower wiper is not required to the 365CL.
Photo C-34: Parallelogram moved Wiper (IMG-7681)
Photo P-34: Single wiper (PICT2143)
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Front Windshield
• The front windshield is made by the Laminated Glass • The front windshield is made by the Laminated Glass
which prevents the scatter of glass shards when the glass is which is the same as the 365CL.
broken. • The PC650-7 also uses the one-piece front windshield.
• The One-Piece front windshield of 800mm in width and But the dimensions are 740mm in width and 1400mm in
1445mm in height is used to improve front visibility with no height which are smaller than the 365CL.
center pillar.
Photo C-35: Front windshield (IMG-7680)
Photo P-35: Front Windshield (PICT2139)
Right Side Window

The right side window is the one-piece type and is made by The right side window is the one-piece type and is made by
the tempered glass the tempered glass.
Photo C-36: Right Side Window (IMG-7655)
Photo P-36: Right Side Window (PICT2328)
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Left Side Window
The left side window is the fixed type and is installed on the The left side window is the fixed type and is installed on the
cab with adhesive. cab with adhesive.
Photo C-37: Fixed type Left Rear Window (IMG-7659)
Photo P-37: Fixed type Left Rear Window (PICT2326
Rear Window
The hammer for emergency exit is provided to the rear The emergency escape mechanism is included into the rear
window. window.
Photo C-38: Rear Window with Hammer for Emergency Exit

(IMG-7620
Photo P-38: Rear window with Emergency Exit
(PICT2334
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Door
• The door is mounted to the cab shell with two door • The door is mounted to the cab shell with two door
hinges. The upper door window is slide-able and can be hinges. The upper door window is slide-able and can be
locked at the closed position. The lower window is fixed locked at the closed position. The lower window is
type. fixed type.
• Two release latches are provided to the door. One • Only one release latch is provided to the door.
release latch is for the operator who sat on the seat. And
another one is provided to release the door from behind the
cab. This release latch allows the operator to release and
close the door at the same position on the catwalk.
Photo P-39: Door (PICT2164)
Photo C-39: Door (PICT2536)
Photo C-41: Door Release Knob in the cab (IMG-7663)
Photo P-41: Door Release Knob in the cab (PC800

PDSCF1029)
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Photo C-40: Door Release Knob behind the cab (IMG-7661
Photo P-40: No Door Release Latch behind the cab

(PICT2407)
Hydraulic Actuation Lever

• When the hydraulic actuation lever is in Lock position, • When the hydraulic actuation lever is in Lock position,
the joysticks and travel levers are inactivated. the joysticks and travel levers are inactivated.
• When the hydraulic actuation lever is in Unlock When the hydraulic actuation lever is in Unlock position, the
position, the engine is not cranked. engine is not cranked.
Photo C-42: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Lock Position)

(365C-0100)
Photo P-42: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Lock Position)
(PC800 PDSCF0995)
Photo C-43: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Unlock Position)
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(365C-0101)
Photo P-43: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Unlock Position)

(PC800 PDSCF0996)
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Operator Comfort
Seat
The 365CL offers wide variety of seats and suspensions The low back seat with mechanical suspension is only
shown below: available to the PC650-7. No other seats and suspensions
1. Seat: Low back seat, High back seat, High back seat options for the PC650-7 are available.
with seat heater
2. Suspension: Mechanical suspension, Air suspension
Photo C-44: Seat (385C CDSCF1825) Photo P-44: Seat (PICT2348)
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Armrest
• The armrest is with the height adjustment mechanism • The armrest is with the tilt mechanism, but not with the
and tilt mechanism. height adjustment mechanism.
• The armrest is mounted on the console, not on the seat. • The armrest is mounted to the seatback, not on the
This location has the advantage of maintaining the relative console. Adjusting the seatback changes the relative
relationship between the joystick and the armrest even when relationship between the joystick and the armrest.
reclining the seat.
Photo C-45: Armrest (385C CDSCF1813) Photo P-45: Armrest (PC800 PDSCF1035)
Console
• The 365CL uses the integrated seat and console. The • The console can be adjusted along with the seat.
operator can adjust the seat position with maintaining the • The suspension is mounted between the console and the
relative position with the joysticks. seat. Because the console is mounted on the cab floor
• Both of the console and the seat are mounted on the cab without the suspension, the vibration from the cab floor
floor via the suspension. This type of design attenuates the is directly transmitted to the consoles/joysticks.
vibration transmitted from the cab floor to the console and
seat.
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Photo C-46: Integrated Seat and Console (385C Photo P-46: Integrated Seat and Console (PC800
CDSCF1809) PDSCF1030)
Climate Control
• Full automatic positive ventilation climate control is • Full automatic positive ventilation climate control is
used to the 365CL. used to the PC650-7.
• Four air outlets are provided. • Four air outlets are provided.
• The climate control panel is located on the right • The climate control panel is located on the left console.
console. This layout has the risk of water damage from
rain/snow if the excavator is operated with the door
open.
Photo C-47: Climate Control Panel (385C CDSCF1781)

Photo P-47: Climate Control Panel (PC800 PDSCF1061)
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Storage
Two storage spaces for the small articles such as a pencil and The storage space for the small articles is not provided to the
a cellular phone are provided. One storage space is situated PC650-7. But, there is Hot & Cool box behind the seat.
on the left console just under the armrest and another one is
positioned rear on the right console.
Photo C-48: Storage Space on Left Console (385C

CDSCF1773) Photo P-48: Hot & Cool Box (PC800 PDSCF1045)
Photo C-49: Storage space on Right Console (385C

CDSCF1749)
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Lunch Box
• A large capacity of the lunch box, which dimensions are • Smaller lunch box which dimensions are 410mm in
475mm in width, 485mm in length and 240mm in depth width, 255mm in height and 280mm in depth is provided to
is provided. the PC650-7.
• The lid is also provided as an attachment. • The lid is not provided.
Photo P-50: Lunch Box without cover (PICT1323

Photo C-50: Lunch Box without Cover (385C
CDSCF1762)
Photo C-51: Lunch box with Lid Cover (325D

100PENTAX IMGP1508)
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Durability
Cab Shell
The bolt-on FOGS can be installed to the cab without any The bolt-on FOGS can be installed to the cab without any
modifications. modifications.
Photo C-52: Cab with Head Guard ((PICT1323)
Photo P-52: Cab with Head Guard (PICT2354)
Track Frame
• The track frame is bolted to the carbody with 9 units/leg • The track frame is bolted to the carbody with 8 units/leg
of M30 bolts. of the M30 bolts.
• The track frame is made by pressing the steel plate of • The track frame is made by pressing the steel plate of
the thickness of 16.5mm which is 2.5mm thicker than the thickness of 14mm and has a box structure.
the PC650-7, and has a box structure. This design • The dimensions of the track frame are 420mm in height
provides excellent rigidity against bending stress and and 590mm in width.
twisting stress.
• The dimensions of the track frame are 440mm in height
and 655mm in width, which are 14% larger cross
section area than the PC650-7.
Photo P-53: Track Frame (PICT2242)
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Photo C-53: Track Frame (PICT2522)
Sprocket
• The sprocket has 21 teeth. The diameter is 900mm. • The sprocket has 23 teeth. The diameter is 850mm.
• The sprocket is bolted to the final drive with 21 units of • The sprocket is bolted to the final drive with 34 units of
the M30 bolts. the M22 bolts.
Photo C-54: Sprocket (365C-0028)
Photo P-54: Sprocket (PICT2232)
Track Link
• Because the dimensions of the link are much larger than • The dimensions of the link are smaller than the 365CL.
the PC650-7, it can say that the link on the 365CL is more • The link pitch is 230mm which is the same as the
durable than the PC650-7. One example is the link pitch. PC450-7.
The link pitch on the 365CL is the same as the 385C and of • It is unclear if the lubricated track link is used on the
course larger than the PC650-7. PC650-7.
• The GLT-4, lubricated track link, by which extends it’s
life dramatically, is used to the 365CL.
Photo C-55: Track Link (365C-0023)
Photo P-55: Track Link (PICT2224)
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Product Comparison Section - Link Dimensions
Make Caterpillar Komatsu

Model 365CL PC650-7
English English
Heading Metric Value Unit Unit Metric Value Unit Unit
Value Value
Lin Pitch 260 mm 10.24 in 230 mm 9.06 in
Link Height 148 mm 5.83 in 130 mm 5.12 in
Link Width 70.8 mm 2.79 in 62 mm 2.44 in
Link Pin Diameter 57 mm 2.24 in 49 mm 1.93 in
Link Pin Bushing Diameter mm 0.00 in mm 0.00 in
Piping for Travel Motors

The travel motor piping is protected from the damage by the The travel motor piping is protected from the damage by the
cover. cover.
Photo C-56: Piping for Travel Motor (365C-0020)
Photo P-56: Piping for Travel Motor (PICT2434)
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Carbody
• The top plate is made of one-piece of steel and the plate • The upper plate is made of two-piece of the steel plates.
thickness is 41mm. This design allows the carbody to (54.4mm for center part and 36mm for leg part). Two pieces
transmit the stress from the upper structure to the track of the plates are welded at the root of the leg. This design
frame/ground, smoothly. has a risk to concentrate the stress to the welding area.
• The lower plate thickness is 35mm which is thicker than • The PC650-7 uses thinner plates to the lower plate.
the PC650-7.
Photo C-57: Carbody (IMG-P0871)

Photo P-57: Carbody (PICT2424)
Product Comparison Section - Carbody Dimensions
Make Caterpillar
Model
Top Plate(Leg) 41 mm 1.61 in 36 mm 1.42 in
Top Plate(Center) 41 mm 1.61 in 54.5 mm 2.15 in
Vertical Plate(Center) 30 mm 1.18 in 34.8 mm 1.37 in
Vertical Plate(Leg) 36.1 mm 1.42 in 26.7 mm 1.05 in
Bottom Plate 35 mm 1.38 in 32.3 mm 1.27 in
Carbody Height 380 mm 14.96 in 388 mm 15.28 in
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Swing Frame
• Tow main rails are integrated with one thicker lower • The front halves of the main rails are welded to the
plate by welding. Then, this integrated structure is as one, turntable as the same design as the 365CL. But, each
and becomes the primary structure of the swing frame. This main rail is independent in the rear half.
design has the advantage to increasing the rigidity of the • The skirt is the box structure which is the same design
swing frame. as the 365CL. However, thinner plates are used and
• The skirt is the box structure to increase the strength of skirt height is smaller than the 365CL.
the swing frame • The following is the plate thickness of the primary
• The following is the plate thickness of the primary structure:
structure:
Photo C-58: Swing Frame (PICT2530) Photo P-58: Swing Frame (PICT2150)
Skirt Plate mm 5.3 Skirt Plate mm 4.2

Skirt Height mm 300 Skirt Height mm 220
Turn Table Plate Thickness mm 40.0 Turn Table Plate Thickness mm 40.0
(Front) (Front)
Turn Table Plate Thickness mm 25.0
(Rear)
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Main Beam
• Tow main rails are integrated with one thicker lower • The front halves of the main rails are welded to the
plate by welding. Then, this integrated structure is as one, turntable as the same design as the 365CL. But, each
and becomes the primary structure of the swing frame. This main rail is independent in the rear half.
design has the advantage to increasing the rigidity of the • The main rail is made of 31.9mm thick plate and upper.
swing frame. • The following is the plate thickness of the main rails:
• The plate thickness of the main rail is 40.8mm which is
thicker than the PC650-7.
• The upper plate is made of 40.9mm thick plate which is
thinner than the PC650-7, but upper plate width is 200mm
which is wider than the PC650-7
• The following is the plate thickness of the main rails:
Photo P-59: Main Beam (PICT2424)

Photo C-59: Main Beam (IMGP0871)
Main Beam Dimensions
Main Beam Dimensions Vertical Plate Thickness mm 31.9

Upper Plate Thickness mm 45.0
Vertical Plate Thickness mm 40.8 Upper Plate Width mm 172
Upper Plate Thickness mm 40.9 Lower Plate Thickness mm 36
Upper Plate Width mm 200 Lower Plate Width mm 172
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Swing Bearing
• The dimension of the outer race is 1802mm in diameter, • The diameter of the outer race is 1795mm.
which is slightly larger diameter than the PC650-7. • The outer race is bolted to the swing frame with 35units
• The outer race is bolted to the swing frame with of the M30 bolt.
37units of the M30 bolt. Compared with the PC650-7, the • The spacers are also used between the bolts and outer
bolt size is the same, but more bolts are used to the 365CL. race. But, thickness of the spacer is 8mm. This spacer will
In addition, thicker spacers of 15mm thickness are used be less effectiveness than the thicker spacer on the 365CL
between the bolts and outer race to prevent looseness of the • It is unclear if the cross roller bearings are used to the
bolts for a long time. swing bearing.
• The cross roller bearings are used to the 365CL. The
cross roller bearing features longer life than the ball bearing
because the roller touches the inner race and the outer race
with lines, not with points.
Photo C-60: Swing Bearing (IMGP0869)

Photo P-60: Swing Bearing (PICT2429)
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Clearance Between Track and Upper Frame
The clearance between shoe lug and the skirt is 185mm. The clearance between shoe lug and the skirt is 130mm.
Photo C-61: Clearance between Track and Upper Frame Photo P-61: Clearance between Track and Upper Frame
(PICT2573) (PICT2239)
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Weld Length
The track frame is bolted on the carbody with 9units of M36 The track frame is bolted on the carbody with 8 units of M33
bolts. bolts.
Photo C-62: Bolted Joint Track Frame (365C-0015)

Photo P-62: Bolted Joint Track Frame (PICT2249)
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Stick
• The stick is designed to use thinner plates with larger • The cross section area is 16% smaller than the 365CL.
cross section area. This design allows the stick to reduce its • The stick cylinder is the same diameters of the bore and
weight while maintaining the strength. rod as the 365CL. But, stroke is shorter and system pressure
• The bore and rod diameters of the stick cylinder are the is lower than the 365CL. As a result, cylinder power (thrust
same as the PC650-7. But cylinder power (thrust x stroke) x stroke) is smaller than the 365CL.
is larger than the PC650-7 because of longer stroke and
higher system pressure.
Stick Dimensions Stick Dimensions

Upper Plate Front mm 14.1 Upper Plate Front mm 16.2
Thickness Rear mm 22 Thickness Rear mm 12.2
Side Plate Front mm 30.1 Side Plate Front mm 27.6
Thickness Middle mm 15.9 Thickness Middle mm 16.2
Rear mm 22.2 Rear mm 34.8
Lower Plate Thickness mm 20 Lower Plate Thickness mm 25.5
Cross Section Width mm 463 Cross Section Width mm 420
Cross Section Height mm 720 Cross Section Height mm 670
Cross Section Area m3 0.333 Cross Section Area m3 0.281
Stick Cylinder Dimensions Stick Cylinder Dimensions

Bore mm 200 Bore mm 200
Rod Diameter mm 140 Rod Diameter mm 140
Stroke m 2.117 Stroke m 2.045
Hyd. Pressure MPa 32 Hyd. Pressure MPa 31.9
Thrust x Stroke kN-m 212.7 Thrust x Stroke kN-m 204.8
(Cyl. Extended) (Cyl. Extended)
Photo C-63: Stick (PICT2520) Photo P-63: Stick (PICT2174)
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Boom
• The boom is designed to use thinner plates with larger • The upper plate and lower plate consist of one piece of
cross section area. This design allows the boom to reduce its plate. With this design, the plate thickness is decided to meet
weight while maintaining the strength. in fact, the boom maximum stress portion. As a result, the boom constructed
cross section area is 23% larger than the PC650-7. with one place is heavier than the boom constructed with
• Each of the upper plate, lower plate and side plate three pieces.
consists of three pieces. Therefore various plate thicknesses • In addition, the forged boom-nose and boom-foot are
can be selected to meet various stresses. This design allows leading to increase the boom weight.
the boom to reduce its weight while maintaining strength.
• The boom nose is made with the fabricated material to
reduce boom weight.
Photo P-65: Boom (PICT2171)
Photo C-65: Boom (PICT2521)
Boom Dimensions Boom Dimensions

Upper Plate Front mm 12.6 Upper Plate Front mm 24.2
Thickness Rear mm 19.9 Thickness Rear mm
Side Plate Front mm 16.1 Side Plate Front mm 19.0
Thickness Middle mm 22 Thickness Middle mm 27.8
Rear mm 25.1 Rear mm 20.9
Lower Plate Front mm 20.1 Lower Plate Front mm 24.9
Thickness Middle mm 20.3 Thickness Middle mm
Rear mm 18.2 Rear mm
Cross Section Width mm 595 Cross Section Width mm 515
Cross Section Height mm 1100 Cross Section Height mm 975
Cross Section Area m3 0.655 Cross Section Area m3 0.502
Boom Cylinder Dimensions Boom Cylinder Dimensions

Bore mm 190 Bore mm 185
Rod Diameter mm 130 Rod Diameter mm 120
Stroke m 1.791 Stroke m 1.725
Hyd. Pressure MPa 32.0 Hyd. Pressure MPa 31.9
Thrust x Stroke per One Cyl. ton-m/2 units 162.5 Thrust x Stroke per One Cyl. ton-m/2 147.8
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(Cyl. Extended) (Cyl. Extended) units
Boom Cross Section

The boom cross-section area is 0.655m2 which is 23% larger The boom cross-section area is 0.502m2.
than the PC650-7.
Photo P-66: Boom (PICT2171)

Photo C-66: Boom (PICT2521)
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Boom Foot
• The boom widens smoothly toward the boom foot. This • The boom foot width is 970mm which is narrower than
design allows the load to be smoothly transmitted to the the 365CL.
boom foot without concentration of the load. • The forged boom foot being used to the medium size
• The boom foot width is 1110mm which is larger than class excavators is used to the PC650-7 as well. With this
the PC650-7, improving the durability. design, the boom foot is widened only at the forged area.
Photo C-67: Boom Foot (365C-0328)
Photo P-67: Boom Foot (PICT2205)
Boom Lights
• A light is situated to both side of the boom. • Single light is situated to both side of the boom.
• Also, storage box mounted light and cab lights are • The storage box mounted light and cab lights are
provided. In addition, the frame mounted working light is provided. But, the light under the cab is not provided to the
situated under the cab. PC650-7.
Photo C-68: Boom Lights (IMG-7705)
Photo P-68: Boom Light (PICT2193)
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Photo C-69: Boom Lights (IMG-7706)
Photo P-69: Boom Light (PICT2192)
Bucket
Photo C-70: Bucket (IMG-7709)

Photo P-70: Bucket (PICT2182)
Bottom Guarding
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• Whole area of the bottom of the upper structure is The bottom guards are not provided under the control valve
completely protected with the bottom guards. and the fuel tank.
• The 365CL uses thicker bottom guards than the The swivel guard is not provided to the tested machine.
PC650-7.
Photo C-71: Bottom Guards (365C-0422)
Photo P-71: Bottom Guards (PICT2150)
Product Comparison Section - Bottom Guarding
Make Caterpillar Compared To

Model Machine Model # Machine Model #
Below Radiator 5 mm 0.20 in 3.3 mm 0.13 in
Below Oil Cooler NA mm ####### in NA mm ######## in
Below Engine 5 mm 0.20 in 3.5 mm 0.14 in
Below Control Valves 5 mm 0.20 in Not Provided
mm ######## in
Below Pump 5 mm 0.20 in 3.3 mm 0.13 in
Below Fuel Tank 3 mm 0.12 in Not Provided
mm ######## in
Below Hydraulic Oil Tank 5 mm 0.20 in 3.6 mm 0.14 in
Below Cab 5 mm 0.20 in 3.3 mm 0.13 in
Below Swivel Joint 5 mm 0.20 in Not Provided
mm ######## in
Travel Motor Projection

• With the 650mm shoe, the projection of the travel motor • With the 600mm shoe, the projection of the travel motor
cover is 100mm. cover is 147mm. If the PC650-7 equips the 650mm shoe,
• The final drive does not project from the shoe width. which is the same width as the 365CL, the projection will be
122mm. Bigger projection than the 365CL increases a risk
of damage.
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• The final drive is projected by 14mm from the shoe
width. But, it will not be projected with the 650mm shoe.
Photo C-72: Travel Motor Projection (365C-0037)
Photo P-72: Travel Motor Projection (PICT2431)
Photo C-73: Final Drive Projection (365C-0028)
Photo P-73: Final Drive Projection (PICT2232)
Wire Harness Protection

The wire harnesses are protected with the Yellow Blade. The • The knitted type wire harness protection is used only for
Yellow Blade has a resistance to wear and excels in drainage bare engine.
of the wire harness. The Yellow Blade is also used in the • Wire harnesses in other area are protected with the
engine compartment because of its excellent heat-resistance. corrugated tubes. The corrugated tube is weak against heat
and has poor drainage.
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Photo C-74: Yellow Blade (385C CDSCF1986) Photo P-74: Wire Harness on Engine Protection (PICT2401
Photo P-75: Wire Harness Protection except engine

(PICT2359
Hose Clamp
The hoses for the air, coolant and hydraulic system are • The clamps without spring are used for the hydraulic
fastened with dual spring clamps to prevent leakage in the system and air system.
long term.
Photo C-76: Hose Clamp for Hydraulic System (385C

CDSCF1888)
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Photo C-77: Dual Hose Clamp with spring for Air System
(365C-0206
Photo P-76: Hose Clamps without spring for Hydraulic
System (PICT2287
Photo P-77: Hose Clamp without spring for Air System

(PICT2397
Serviceability
Easy to Troubleshoot
Pressure Taps Pressure Taps
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Because the pressure taps are provided on the hydraulic Two pressure taps are provided to the delivery lines. But,
system, the hydraulic pressure can be measured without there is no pressure tap to other lines, such as regulator and
disconnecting the hydraulic hoses. The pressure tap also pilot lines.
reduces time and prevents oil spillage when pressure
measurement.
Photo C-78: Pressure Tap (IMG-7552)
Photo P-78: Pressure Tap (PICT2286)
E.T Connectors ET Connector

The 365CL provides two E.T connectors, in the cab and on The PC650-7 does not have the capability to connect the
the relay panel. diagnostic tool. When diagnosis is required, disconnecting
The E.T connectors allow the diagnosis without the connector and inserting the dummy tool are required.
disconnecting connectors. The ET connectors are also used
for updating the controller.
Photo C-79: ET Connector on Relay Panel (365C-0259
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Photo C-81: ET Connector in the Cab (Prepro 385c_0412)
Hydraulic System
Centralized Maintenance
• The greasing is centralized to the boom foot, swing • As the same as the 365CL, the remote greasing points
bearing, stick nose and bucket linkage. To achieve this goal, are provided to the boom foot, mid position of the stick and
the remote greasing points are provided to the boom foot, swing bearing.
mid position of the stick and swing bearing.
Photo C-82: Remote Greasing Point-Boom foot (IMG-7618)
Photo P-82: Remote Greasing point-Boom foot (PICT2202
Photo C-82-1: Remote Greasing Point-Stick (IMGP-0878)
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Photo C-82-2: Remote Greasing Point-Swing Bearing
(IMGP-0870) Photo C-82-1: Remote Greasing Point-Stick (PICT2212)
Photo P-82-2: Remote Greasing Point-Swing Bearing

(PICT2198)
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Monitor Service Features
• The monitor has the capability to memorize and display • The monitor has the capability to memorize and display
the replacement interval for twelve kinds of filters and fluids, the replacement interval for ten kinds of filters and fluids by
in language. icon. But, some icons are hard to understand due to
• In addition, the monitor has the capability to unfamiliarity.
memorize/display the accumulated working hours for engine, • The monitor does not provide the capability to
pump, travel motor and tools. This information will be useful memorize/display the accumulated working hours of major
for preventive maintenance. components.
Photo C-83: Maintenance information (Japanese) (385C Photo P-83: Maintenance Information (PC450-7 P05255)
CDSCF2029)
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Swing Motor Accessibility
• Level check and refilling of the swing reduction oil can • The access methods of the level check, refilling and
be accomplished from the upper deck. draining of the swing reduction oil are the same as the
• The draining can be accomplished from under the 365CL.
machine. The drain cock is provided to drain the oil without • Because the drain cock is not provided to the drain port,
tools. wrench is required when draining the oil.
Photo C-84: Swing motors (365C-0281

Photo P-84: Swing motors (PICT2373)
Photo P-84-1: Swing Reduction Gear Oil Drain Plug

(PICT2446
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Swing Gear Lubrication
The swing gear inspection hole is situated under the boom The swing gear inspection hole is situated under the boom
foot. The operator can access the inspection hole from foot. The operator can access the inspection hole from
ground level. ground level.
Photo 84-2: Swing Gear (IMGP-0869)

!#" $&%
')(*
Photo C-85: Swing Gear Inspection Hole Photo P-85: Swing Gear Inspection Hole (PICT2436
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Service Intervals
• In general, the 365CL features longer maintenance • The PC650-7 requires daily greasing to the front linkage.
intervals than the PC650-7. • Change interval of the coolant is unclear
• The 365CL does not require greasing daily or 10 hours • The PC650-7 requires level check and oil change of the
intervals. PTO Case Oil.
Photo P-86: Level Check Gauge for PTO Case Oil

(PICT2280
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Maintenance of Cooling Package
• The radiator is situated together with the oil cooler, and • Accessing the cooling core is hard because the radiator,
the after cooler is positioned in front of the radiator/oil oil cooler and fuel cooler/condenser for air-conditioner are
cooler. The clearance between the radiator/oil cooler and the arranged in series.
after cooler is 100mm. • The radiator screen is provided. But reverse fan
• The condenser for air-conditioner is situated separately function is not provided.
from the cooling unit.
• The radiator screen is provided as an attachment.
• The reverse fun function is provided as an attachment.
Photo P-87: Cooling Unit (PICT2304)

Photo C-87: Cooling System (IMGP-0081)
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Refueling
• The fuel tank has the capacity of 800liter. • The fuel tank has the capacity of 880liter.
• In addition to the sight level gauge, the float type level
gauge is provided to the strainer. This helps the service • The float type level gauge is provided to the strainer,
person to confirm fuel level during refueling. but the sight gauge is not provided.
Photo C-88: Fuel Cap with Fuel Gauge (365C-0311 Photo P-88: Fuel Cap with fuel Gauge (PICT2416
Photo C-89: Fuel Level Gauge (365C-0315)
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Air Filter
• The 365CL uses the double element type radial air filter • The double element type radial air filter is provided to
with pre-cleaner. the PC650-7. But, the pre-cleaner is not provided.
• The dust sensor is provided to the air filter. When the • The dust indicator is situated to the air filter, but dust
filter is plugged, warning information is displayed on the sensor is not provided. The operator/service person cannot
monitor. confirm the condition of the air filter through the monitor.
Photo C-90: Air Cleaner (Elements removed) (365C-0261

Photo P-90: Air Cleaner (Elements removed) (PICT2289
Photo P-90-1: dust Indicator (PICT2282)
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Hydraulic Filters (filtration)
• In addition to the return filters (capsule filters), the • The return filter and the filter for the gear pump are
pump drain filter, motor drain filter and pilot filter are provided, but the pump drain filter and motor drain filter are
provided to extend life of the hydraulic components and not found.
hydraulic oil. • The S.O.S sampling port is not provided.
• The S.O.S sampling port is provided on the pilot pump.
Photo C-91: Pilot Filter (365C-0219
Photo P-91: Filter for Gear Pump (PICT2284)
Photo C-92: Motor Drain Filter and Pump Drain Filter

(365C-0291
Photo P-93: Return Filter (PICT2464)
Photo C-93: Return Filters (365c-0265)
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Photo C-94: SOS Sampling Port (img-7543)
Engine Oil Filters

• The engine oil filter is situated in the pump • The engine oil filter is situated on the engine.
compartment to accessing from the catwalk, easily. • The S.O.S sampling port is not provided to the
• The S.O.S. sampling port is provided on the engine oil PC650-7.
filter base.
Photo C-95: Engine Oil Filter with SOS Sampling Port

(img-7550) Photo P-95: Engine Oil Filter (PICT2390)
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Capsule Filter
• The return filter is a capsule type. Three capsule filters • One element type return filter is equipped on the
are used to the 365CL and filter cartridges are common to PC650-7.
the mid size excavators. • Because the return filter is in the oil, it is required to put
• The filter can be replaced without making hands dirty. a hand in the oil when removing the element. Of course,
• The shutter provided to the bottom of the filter is shut the oil dripped from the filter element makes the upper
when removed to prevent spillage of the oil. The shutter also deck dirty.
prevents dirt and contaminations from going into the filter. • Because the hydraulic oil is exposed when replacing the
filter, there is risk to enter contamination/water into the
hydraulic tank.
Photo C-96: Capsule type Return Filter (365c-0266)
Photo P-96: Element type Return Filter (Element removed )

(PICT2467)
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Engine Access
• The maintenance points for the engine are centralized. • The engine should be accessed from two maintenance
• Most of maintenance points can be accessed easily points of the upper deck and the counterweight.
because they are situated above the level of the upper deck. • Not only this design causes the inefficient maintenance
but also it is dangerous. Because the service person needs to
be on the edge of the upper deck when accessing the
counterweight. In this situation, no assist grip is provided on
the upper deck. When the service person is on the
counterweight, the lifting eye on the counterweight is a
dangerous projection.
Photo C-97: Engine Access (PICT2570)
Photo P-97: Engine Access (PICT2377)
Photo P-97-1 Dangerous Projection on the Counterweight

(PICT2385)
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Final Drive
One drain port and one level check/refill port are provided. One drain port and one level check/refill port are provided.
Photo C-98: Final Drive (365c-0029)
Photo P-98: Final Drive (PICT2233)
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Fuel System
• Large capacity of the priming pump is provided in the • Two priming pumps are situated in the lower part of the
engine compartment. engine, under the upper deck. The operator/service person
• Because the priming pump is situated above the level of requires crouch down when accessing the priming pumps.
the upper deck, the operator/service person can easily access • Priming is hard because the capacities of both priming
and operate it from the upper deck. pumps are small.
Photo C-99: Fuel Priming Pump (img-7589)
Photo P-99: Fuel Priming Pump (PICT2390)
Photo P-100: Fuel Priming Pump (PICT2393)
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Water Separator
The water separator is situated in the air cleaner compartment The water separator is not provided to the PC800-7.
and can be accessed from the catwalk, easily.
Photo C-101: Water Separator (365c-0252)
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Cab Air Filters
• The air filter for circulated air is situated under the • The air filter for circulated air is situated under the
lunch box. Any tools are not required when detaching and lunch box. Any tools are not required when detaching and
attaching the filter. attaching the filter.
• The air filter for fresh air is located to the back of the • The air filter for fresh air is located on the left side of
cab shell, and is accessible from the battery compartment. the cab shell, and is accessible from the catwalk.
Photo C-102: Air Filter for Circulated Air (385C Photo P-102: Air Filter for Circulated Air (PC800
CDSCF1761) PDSCF1040)
Photo C-103: Air Filter for Fresh Air (365c-0198)
Photo P-103: Air Filter for Fresh Air (PC800 PDSCF1063)
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Access Panels
Anti-Skid Deck
• The new type anti-skid plates are used in the areas • Small peaces of the sand papers are pasted in the areas
where it's accessed frequently on the upper deck to prevent accessed frequently on the upper deck to prevent slippage.
slippage. However, the interval between the sandpapers is too wide.
• The anti-skid plate provides more effect of preventing • The sandpaper is less effective in preventing slippage
the slippage than the sandpaper. Also, the effect of the than the anti-skid plate. Especially when snow accumulates
anti-skid plate can last linger than the sand paper. on it, there is no longer effective in preventing slippage.
• The sandpaper wears out in a short time.
Photo C-104: Anti-Skid Panel (img-7576)
Photo P-104: Sand Paper on the Upper Deck (PICT2371
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Access to Cab and Upper Deck
• The handgrips and steps are provided to the both side of • The handgrips and steps are provided to the both side
the machine for accessing the cab and upper deck. the machine for accessing the cab and upper deck.
• The operator/service person can access the upper deck • The operator/service person can access the upper deck
from the left side catwalk by using the ladder provided from the left side catwalk by using the ladder provided
behind the cab. The ladder is set inside the side panel. behind the cab. However, the ladder becomes an obstacle to
proceeding along the catwalk because it blocks the catwalk.
Photo C-105: Step and Assist grip to accessing the cab

(PICT2538 Photo P-105: Step and Assist grip to accessing the cab
(PICT2165
Photo C-106: Steps and Ladder to accessing upper deck

(img-7560)
Photo P-106: Steps and Ladder to accessing upper deck

(PICT2270)
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Photo C-106-1: Ladder to accessing upper deck (imgp-0846)
Photo P-106-1: Ladder to accessing upper deck

(PICT2254)
Cat Walk
The catwalks are provided to both sides of the machine. The catwalk is provided only on left side of the machine.
Photo C-107: Left Side Catwalk (IMG-7700)

Photo P-107: Left Side Catwalk (PICT2255)
Photo C-108: Right Side Catwalk (img-7703)
Photo P-108: No Catwalk on Right Side (PICT2268
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Fan Belt Re-tensioning
• Because the 365CL uses the hydraulically driven fan • The cooling fan is driven by the fan belt and the
motor, the fan belt is not required to the C15 engine. automatic re-tensioning system is provided to the fan belt.
• Because the automatic belt re-tensioning system is • However, accessory belt is with the manual re-tensioning
provided to the accessory belt, re-tensioning is not required system. The operator/service person needs to stand on the
to the C15 engine. counterweight when accessing the accessory belt.
Photo C-109: Hydraulically Driven Cooling Fan (IMG-7694
Photo P-109: Fan belt with automatic Belt Re-tensioning

System (PICT2410
Photo P-109-1: Accessory belt with manual belt re-tensioning

system (PICT2413)
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Track Frame Cleaning
The upper face of the track frame is horizontal. The upper face of the track frame is horizontal.
Photo C-110: Upper face of the Track Frame (PICT2523 Photo P-110: Upper face of the Track Frame (PICT2243
Environment
The C15 engine on the 365CL meets EPA Tier III Emission The SAA6D140E3 engine on the PC650-7 meets EPA Tier II
Regulations. Emission Regulations, although this engine does not meet
EPA Tier III Emission Regulations.
Photo C-111: C15 Engine (IMG-7592)
Photo P-111: SAA6D140E3 Overview (PICT2379
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Technical Specifications
Engine
Metric
Caterpillar Competitor
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Model CAT C15 Komatsu SA6D140E-3
Type DI, ATAAC DI, ATAAC
kW 302 287
Horsepower PS 410 390
HP 404 385
Dsiplacement Liter 15.2 15.24
N-m 2059
Max torque
rpm
# of Cylinder 6 6
English
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Model CAT C15 Komatsu SA6D140E-3
Type DI, ATAAC DI, ATAAC
kW 302 287
Horsepower PS 410 390
HP 404 385
Dsiplacement in3 927.6 930
lb.ft 1518.6 0
Max torque
rpm 0 0
# of Cylinder 6 6
Weights
74
Metric
CaterPillar Komatsu
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Operating Wg kg 68000 58200
Type Of Undercarriage LC-VG STD-VG
Boom Length m 7.8 7.3
Stick Length m 3.6 3.5
Bucket Capacity m3 2.9 2.8
Shoe Width mm 750 600
Counterweight ton 10.05
English
CaterPillar Komatsu
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Operating Wg lb 149910 128310
Type Of Undercarriage LC-VG STD-VG
Boom Length ft 25'7" 23'11"
Stick Length ft 11'10" 11'6"
Bucket Capacity yd3 3.79 3.66
Shoe Width in 30 24
Counterweight lb 22156 0
Service Refill Capacities
75
Metric
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Fuel Tank Liter 800 880
Hydraulic Tank Liter 310 360
Hydraulic System Liter 670 520
Coolant Liter 95 57
Engine Oil Pan Liter 54 42
Swing Drive(Each) Liter 12 13
Final Drive(Each) Liter 15 10.5
Pump Drive Lter Not Required Required
English
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Fuel Tank Gal 211 232
Hydraulic Tank Gal 82 95
Hydraulic System Gal 177 137
Coolant Gal 25 15
Engine Oil Pan Gal 14 11
Swing Drive(Each) Gal 3.17 3.43
Final Drive(Each) Gal 3.96 2.77
Pump Drive Gal Not Required Required
Hydraulic System
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Metric
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Type x # of Unit 2 2
Main Pump
Max Flow (Total) Lit/min 800 820
Type x # of Unit 1
Pilot Pump
Max Flow (Total) Lit/min 87
Swing Type x # of Unit 1 Not Available
Pump Max Flow (Total) Lit/min 360
Cooling Type x # of Unit 1 Not aAvailable
Pump Max Flow (Total) Lit/min 63
Imprement(STD) KPa 32000 31900
Imprement(Pressure Up) KPa 35000 34300
Relief Swing KPa 28000 25500
Pressure Travel KPa 35000 34300
Pilot KPa 4100 2900
Cooling KPa -- --
English
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Main Pump
Max Flow (Total) Gal/min 211.3 216.6
Pilot Pump
Max Flow (Total) Gal/min 23 0
Type x # of Unit 1 Not Available
Pilot Pump
Max Flow (Total) Gal/min 95.1 0
Cooling Type x # of Unit 1 Not aAvailable
Pump Max Flow (Total) Gal/min 16.6 0
Imprement(STD) psi 4641 4627
Imprement(Pressure Up) psi 5076 4975
Relief Swing psi 4061 3699
Pressure Travel psi 5076 4975
Pilot psi 595 421
Cooling psi -- -
Drive
77
Metric
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Type of Undercarriage LC-VG STD-VG
High km/h 4.1 4.9
Travel Speed Mid km/h
Low km/h 2.8 3
Max. Drawbarpull kN 461 415
Gradeabiity %
English
Unit
365CL PC650-7
High mph 2.5 3
Travel Speed Mid mph -- --
Low mph 1.7 1.9
Max. Drawbarpull lb 103640 93300
Gradeabiity % 0 0
Swing Mechanism
Metric
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Swing Speed rpm 6.5 8.3
Swing Torque KN.m 204.5 209.5
English
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Swing Speed rpm 6.5 8.3
Swing Torque lb-ft 150830 154520
Track
78
Metric
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Overall Length mm 5860 5370
Tumbler Length mm 4705 4250
Track Extended mm 3250 3300
Gauge Retracted mm 2750 2590
Min Ground Clearance mm 840 790
# of Track rollers 8 8
# of Carrier rollers 3 3
English
Unit
365CL PC650-7
Overall Length ft-in 19'3" 17'7"
Tumbler Length ft-in 15'5" 13'11"
Track Extended ft-in 10'8" 10'10"
Gauge Retracted ft-in 9'0" 8'6"
Min Ground Clearance ft-in 2'9" 2'7"
# of Track rollers 8 8
# of Carrier rollers 3 3
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Product Comparison –PC365CL vs PC650-7

Product Comparison Section - Machine Configurations

Make Caterpillar KOMATSU

Model 365CL PC650-7

Photo P-02: SAA6D140E3 Engine (PICT2379)

Model 365CL PC650-7

Photo P-03: Pilot operated OLSS Hydraulic System

Photo C-04: Hydraulic Pumps (IMG-7540)

Photo P-04: Hydraulic Pumps (PICT2275)

Model 365CL PC650-7

Photo C-05: Side-by-Side layout Cooling Unit

Photo P-05: Tandem layout Cooling Unit (PICT2304

Photo P-11: Rear View (PICT2126)

Photo P-12: Left View (PICT2131)

Photo P-14: Black Strips for -7 Series (PICT2145)

Boom: 7.66m(Only for PC600-7), 7.3m(Only for PC650-7

Stick: 5.2m, 4.3m, 3.5m, 2.9m(Use with Mass Boom)

Photo C-15: Front Linkage (PICT2534)

Photo P-15: Front Linkage (PICT2167)

Photo P-16: Main Control Valve (PICT2439)

Photo C-16: Main Control Valve (365C-0296)

Tool Control System

Boom and Stick

Boom: 7.66m( Only for PC600-7), 7.3m(Only for

Photo C-17: Capability to install Auxiliary Lines

Photo C18: Main Pump (IMG-7538)

Photo C-19: Right side Switches Panel (365c-0159)

Photo P-20: Switches on Left Console (PC800 PDSCF1016)

Photo C-24: Display Screen (157-5703)

Photo P-24: Display Screen (PC800 PDSCF1015)

Photo C-25: Language display capability (320D PICT0086)

Photo C-26: Default Screen (157-5703)

Photo P-26: Default Screen (PC450-7 P05258)

The 3-pump system adapted to the 365CL provides

Photo C-27: 3 pump System on 385C (IMG-7556)

Photo C-28: Electrical Joystick with Height Adjustable

Photo P-29: Armrest (PC800 PDSCF1035)

Accumulated Hour Meter Accumulated Hour Meter

Photo P-31: Accumulated Hour Meter displayed on the

Photo P-32: Fixed type Skylight with sunshade (PICT2347

Photo C-32: Fixed type Skylight with Sunshade (385C

Wiper Sweep Area Wiper Sweep Area

Photo C-34: Parallelogram moved Wiper (IMG-7681)

Photo P-34: Single wiper (PICT2143)

Photo C-35: Front windshield (IMG-7680)

Photo P-35: Front Windshield (PICT2139)

Right Side Window

Photo C-36: Right Side Window (IMG-7655)

Photo P-36: Right Side Window (PICT2328)

Photo C-37: Fixed type Left Rear Window (IMG-7659)

Photo P-37: Fixed type Left Rear Window (PICT2326

Photo C-38: Rear Window with Hammer for Emergency Exit

Photo P-39: Door (PICT2164)

Photo C-39: Door (PICT2536)

Photo C-41: Door Release Knob in the cab (IMG-7663)

Photo P-41: Door Release Knob in the cab (PC800

Photo P-40: No Door Release Latch behind the cab

Hydraulic Actuation Lever

Photo C-42: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Lock Position)

Photo C-43: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Unlock Position)

Photo P-43: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Unlock Position)

Photo C-44: Seat (385C CDSCF1825) Photo P-44: Seat (PICT2348)

Photo C-47: Climate Control Panel (385C CDSCF1781)

Photo 84-2: Swing Gear (IMGP-0869)