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METALLIC MATERIALS MANUFACTURING

FEBRUARY 2019
UNCONFIRMED

UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
FEBRUARY 18-21, 2019
NEW ORLEANS, LA, USA

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a
subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation
from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

Monday, 18-FEB-2019 to Thursday, 21-FEB-2019

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN

1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check – OPEN

The Metallic Materials Manufacturing (MMM TG) Task Group was called to order at 8:00 a.m., 18-
FEB-2019.

It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion
of the meeting.

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

David Berges BAE Systems - Electronic Systems


* Elaine Boswell Davies Rolls-Royce
* David Chang Rolls-Royce
* Craig Clasper Spirit AeroSystems
Glenn Culbertson GE Aviation
* Jean Francois Dumont Airbus Commercial Aircraft Vice Chairperson
* Greg Goldhagen Collins Aerospace (Hamilton Sundstrand) Secretary
* Russell Hughes Airbus Commercial Aircraft
* Robert LaFurge Collins Aerospace (Hamilton Sundstrand)
* Raphael Mentasti SAFRAN Group
* Will Otaluka Honeywell Aerospace
* Tristan Perin SAFRAN Group
John Sanders Collins Aerospace (Hamilton Sundstrand)
* Brian Streich Honeywell Aerospace Chairperson
Takayuki Takahashi Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

Rob Balizet Canton Drop Forge


* Tom Betz PCC Airfoils, LLC
Marion Cavinato JINJIANG SABART AERO TECH
* Hugo Guajardo FRISA AEROSPACE
Hiro Hamada Toyo Forging Works Co. Ltd.
Dora Jenkins Arconic
Esau Nunez FRISA AEROSPACE
Stephen Perry TECT Power
* Brian Reynolds Arconic
* Simone Robinson Arconic
* Yesenia Romero Aluminum Precision Products Inc.
* Doncasters Precision Castings New
Graham Sales England
Kevin Seidel Canton Drop Forge
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* Michael Snyder Special Metals


* Fabio Sturzen FORGITAL Italy S.p.A.
* Russ Tischer TECT Power Cleveland
* Kevin Vecchiarelli Yankee Casting
Nick Vecchiarelli Yankee Casting Co. Inc.
Jennifer Waldrep Doncasters Southern Tool
Brian Yazumbek Modern Forge Indiana

PRI Staff Present

Jerry Aston

1.2 SAFETY INFORMATION – OPEN

Reviewed fire exits in meeting room.

Inform PRI Staff person of any emergencies.

1.3 REVIEW CODE OF ETHICS – OPEN

The Code of Ethics was reviewed by J. Aston.

1.4 PRESENT THE ANTI-TRUST VIDEO – OPEN

The Anti-Trust Video was presented.

1.5 REVIEW AGENDA – OPEN

The Rolling Action Item List (RAIL) was reviewed.

For specific details, please see the current MMM Rolling Action Item List posted at
www.eAuditNet.com, under Public Documents.

1.6 Approval of meeting minutes

October 2018 meeting minutes reviewed. Motion made by Greg Goldhagen and seconded by
David Chang to approve the October 2018 minutes. Motion Passed.

2.0 REVIEW OF PROCEDURAL CHANGES – OPEN

Changes made to General Operating Procedures since October 2018 were reviewed. Those
operating procedures included: OP 1101 Document Control, OP 1102 Records, OP 1103
Definitions, OP 1112 NMC Oversight Activities, OP 1113 Appeals, OP 1116 Auditor Staffing,
OP1120 Audit Criteria Agreements, OP 1121 Subscriber Application and Agreement, OP 1122
Subscriber Accreditations, OP 1123 Supplier Support Committee, OP 1124 Allegation Handling
and Resolution.

OP 1114 and OP 1116 APP MMM – No changes were made since the October 2018 Nadcap
Meeting.

3.0 HISTORY OF FORGING AND CASTING TASK GROUP – OPEN

Chairperson, Brian Streich gave a brief presentation on the history and status of the MMM Task
Group.

4.0 SUPPLIER SUPPORT COMMITTEE (SSC) REPORT OUT – OPEN

Staff Engineer presented the SSC repot out presentation.


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5.0 VOTING MEMBER UPDATES & COMPLIANCE WITH VOTING REQUIREMENTS – OPEN

The following requests for additions or changes to voting membership were received and
confirmed by the Task Group Chairperson pending verification of PD 1100 requirements:

 Subscriber Voting Member: UVM


 Supplier Voting Member: SVM
 Alternate: ALT
 Task Group Chairperson: CHR
 Vice Chairperson: VCH
 Secretary: SEC

New Voting Members:

First Name Surname Company Position: Meetings Attended


(new / updated (Month/Year)
role)
Russell Hughes Airbus ALT UVM Jun 2018 Feb 2019
Commercial
Aircraft
Simone Robinson Firth Rixson ALT SVM Feb 2019 Jun 2018
Forgings

Changes to Voting Memberships Since the Last Meeting:

First Name Surname Company Position:

(new / updated role)

Paul Graham Airbus Removed as ALT UVM


Commercial
Aircraft

Bob LaFurge Collins Change – ALT UVM TO UVM


Aerospace Change – SEC
(Hamilton
Sundstrand)

Greg Goldhagen Collins Change – UVM to ALT UVM


Aerospace Removed – SEC
(Hamilton
Sundstrand)

Greg Goldhagen stepping down as secretary with Bob LaFurge being voted in as the new
secretary.

The compliance to voting membership requirements per PD 1100 were reviewed. Ben Evans,
Collins Aerospace (Goodrich) was not compliant with voting membership requirements; Balloting
(missed two consecutive ballots) and attendance (missed 3 consecutive meetings). Voting rights
were waived by the Task Group Chairperson. Johan Tholerus, GKN Aerospace Sweden was not
compliant with voting membership requirements; Balloting (missed 2 consecutive ballots) but has
since balloted. Voting rights were waived by the Task Group Chairperson. Ramachandra
Canumalla (Weldaloy Products Company); Attendance (missed 3 consecutive meetings). Voting
rights were waived by the Task Group Chairperson.
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All additions and changes are pending completion of all required steps on the Nadcap
Membership Form (m-frm-01).

ACTION ITEM: Brian Streich to contact Ramachandra Canumalla regarding retaining voting
membership (Due Date: 30-Apr-2019)

6.0 SAND AND INVESTMENT TRIAL AUDITS FEEDBACK – OPEN

Feedback was given on the results of the trial audits at Yankee Castings and Doncasters. Both
the Sand and Investment Casting checklists were used at the auditees with reported good results.
Many observations were made to the checklist questions which will enable the MMM TG to
modify and improve the checklists. From the trials the Sand Casting Checklist seems more ready
than the Investment checklist.

Appreciation was given by the MMM TG to the two companies involve as the trial audits proved
invaluable.

7.0 CASTING CHECKLIST DEVELOPMENT SAND CASTING – OPEN

The Sand Casting checklists were review and modified from the feedback of the trial casting
audits. The Sand Casting checklists were also reviewed from start to end for flow and applicability
of questions.

From the review it was found that further work was required on the structure of Charge Make-Up
and Melting job audits. It was agreed that a Sub-Team should be formed and work these
questions with the plan to be able to ballot the checklists and have ballot comments ready for
review at the June 2019 Nadcap Meeting to be held in Paris, France.

ACTION ITEM: Sub-Team of Graham Sales, Will Otaluka, David Chang, Kevin Vecchiarelli to
review Charge Make-Up and Melting job audit questions. (Due Date: 31-Mar-2019)

The subscribers were asked to provide specification information versus checklist questions for
addition to the Casting Auditor Handbook.

ACTION ITEM: Subscribers to submit information for Customer Requirement Table for Sand and
Investment Casting. (Due Date: 1-Jun-2019)

Long job audit questions to be created by Brian Streich.

ACTION ITEM: Brian Streich to create long job audit questions for Sand Casting. (Due Date: 31-
Mar-2019)

ACTION ITEM: Task Group to add Rework repair cycle to both sand and investment checklists
(Due Date: 1-Jun-2019)

8.0 CASTING CHECKLIST DEVELOPMENT – INVESTMENT CASTING – OPEN

The Investment Casting checklists were review and modified from the feedback of the trial casting
audits. The Investment Casting checklists were also reviewed from start to end for flow and
applicability of questions.

Long job audit questions to be created by Brian Streich.

ACTION ITEM: Brian Streich to create long job audit questions for Investment Casting. (Due Date:
31-Mar-2019)

ACTION ITEM: Task Group to add Rework repair cycle to both sand and investment checklists
(Due Date: 1-Jun-2019)

It was agreed that Solid Mold checklist questions were needed. B LaFurge volunteered to create
these questions.
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ACTION ITEM: Bob LaFurge to create Solid Mold checklist questions. (Due Date: 1-Jun-2019)

9.0 AUDITOR SELECTION – OPEN

It is still too early to be interviewing for potential Casting Auditors but in preparation Auditor
interview questions were raised and the structure of the Auditor interview agreed.

10.0 CASTING HANDBOOK – OPEN

With the Casting checklists nearing completion a Sub-Team was formed to create the Casting
Audit Handbook. The Sub-team will meet prior to the June 2019 Nadcap Meeting. First meeting to
be completed by Friday, 12-Apr-2019.

ACTION ITEM: Casting Auditor Handbook Sub-Team; Brian Streich, Greg Goldhagen, Kevin
Vecharelli, JF Dumont, David Chang, and Bob LaFurge to create the Casting Audit Handbook and
have a draft ready for review at the June 2019 Nadcap Meeting. (Due Date: 1-June-2019)

11.0 SUBSCRIBER MANDATES – OPEN

Airbus classifies Castings as a Special Process and will mandate depending on when checklists
are issued.

SAFRAN Group will mandate depending on when checklists are issued.

Honeywell Aerospace plans to mandate depending on date checklist release.

Rolls-Royce no clear timeline but intend to mandate.

Collins Aerospace (all divisions) to announce intent to mandate in March 2019. All Collins
Aerospace divisions will be mandating.

12.0 NEXT CASTING METHOD – OPEN

It was determined that it is too early to start on the next Casting checklist as the Investment and
Sand Castings checklists are still being reviewed. This will be discussed again at the June 2019
Nadcap Meeting.

It was reported that Die Casting and Centrifugal Casting has low interest at this time. If needed
these could be written by an interested sub-team.

13.0 NEW BUSINESS – CASTINGS – OPEN

No new business.

14.0 JUNE 2019 AGENDA DEVELOPMENT – CASTINGS – OPEN

Agenda items were established for the June 2019 Nadcap meeting to be held in Paris, France.

Sand Casting Audit Review Sub-team: Bob LaFurge, David Chang to meet in March 2019.

ACTION ITEM: Staff Engineer to arrange Sand Casting Sub-Team meeting to discuss the Sand
Casting Checklist. (Due Date: 8-Mar-2019)

15.0 REVIEW ACTION ITEMS LIST – OPEN

RAIL updated and will be posted in eAuditnet > Resources > Documents > Public Documents >
MMM.
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16.0 REVIEW DELEGATION STATUS – CLOSED

The MMM TG reviewed the Forging audits closed by Jerry Aston. The closing was considered
satisfactory and these results go towards delegation for Jerry Aston.

Delegation was not given due to low audit numbers and subscribers wanting to review all audits.

17.0 AUDITOR PERFORMANCE / FEEDBACK – CLOSED

The audits performed by both MMM Forging Auditors were reviewed by the MMM TG and any
comments will be feedback to the Auditors.

18.0 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY – CLOSED

OP 1117 Auditor Consistency Compliance

Limited audit data was reviewed for the standard charts for auditor consistency. The MMM TG
agreed the auditors to be observed in 2019.

19.0 ANNUAL REVIEW OF OP 1110 FAILURE CRITERIA – OPEN

The audit data was reviewed, but it was agreed due to low audit numbers that the standard
deviation criteria for initial and reaccreditation audits could not be used. The MMM TG determined
from available data the failure criteria for 2019.

ACTION ITEM: Staff Engineer to provide M. Graham the Failure Criteria for MMM Forgings. (Due
Date: 15-Mar-2019)

20.0 OCTOBER 2019 AUDITOR CONFERENCE PREPARATION – OPEN

The October 2019 Auditor Conference plan was created and will be held in the afternoon of
Saturday, 19-Oct-2019 and all-day Sunday, 20-Oct-2019. The agenda will be reviewed and
finalized at the June 2019 Nadcap Meeting.

ACTION ITEM: Staff Engineer to contact auditors asking what training is needed for the auditor
Conference. (Due Date: 1-Jun-2019)

21.0 REVIEW AUDIT HANDBOOK – FORGINGS – OPEN

Brian Streich discussed the changes made since the last meeting. The MMM Task Group
AC7140 Audit Handbook can be found by going to www.eAuditNet.com > Resources >
Documents > Audit Criteria > Metallic Materials Manufacturing > Handbooks and Guides.

ACTION ITEM: Staff Engineer to add forging handbook to eAuditNet. (Due Date: 15-Mar-2019)

ACTION ITEM: Subscribers to update the Matrix Table of the Forging Handbook. (Due Date: 1-Jun-
2019)

22.0 PLANNED AUDITS – FORGINGS- OPEN

A debrief on the number of Forging audits scheduled was given. At the present time, there are six
audits scheduled.

23.0 SUBSCRIBER MANDATES – FORGINGS – OPEN

Honeywell Aerospace– Mandate letter sent to suppliers June 2017 and accreditation extended by
end of 2018.

Airbus – has extended their mandate deadline to end of 2019.

SAFRAN Group – mandate letters sent for accreditation by end of 2019.


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MTU Aero Engines AG - mandated for accreditation by end of 2018 for new suppliers.

Collins Aerospace (All divisions) – mandate letter to be sent out by but at this time there is not a
required date to obtain accreditation.

Rolls-Royce – mandate letter to be sent out by mid 2019.

Spirit AeroSystems – no mandate until requirements flowed down to them.

GE Aviation – reviewing Forging program.

24.0 AUDITOR RECRUITMENT – FORGINGS – OPEN

Number of Auditors/Regions/ITAR v non-ITAR etc. reviewed

Forgings has three auditors at present; one in Europe and two in US, plus one in training from the
US.

25.0 NMC PLANNING AND OPS DEBRIEF – OPEN

Feedback given to the Task Group by B Streich.

For more topic covered review the NMC Planning and Ops minutes on the PRI website.

26.0 FORGING CHECKLIST DEVELOPMENT – OPEN

The Checklist ballot comments for AC7140 and AC7140/S were reviewed, and the ballot
comment addressed and accepted.

One question needed clarification before decision confirmed on AC7140 checklist.

ACTION ITEM: Staff Engineer to contact Brad Butler regarding comment on question 13.21 when
confirmed comment can be closed. (Due Date: 31-Mar-2019)

ACTION ITEM: Ballot checklists AC7140 and AC7140/S (Due Date: 6-Mar-2019)

27.0 AM POWEDER MANUFACTURE DISCUSSION AND PLANNING – OPEN

Subscribers interest in AM powder checklist was discussed and the following subscriber interest
given:

Airbus still to decide between AM Powder and Raw Material.

Honeywell Aerospace would like AM Powder.

SAFRAN Group would like AM Powder.

Rolls-Royce does not know at this time.

GE Aviation would support AM Powder before Raw Material.

Collins Aerospace no preference at this time.

It was agreed further discussion on AM Powder will take place at the October 2019 Nadcap
meeting.

28.0 SUPPLIER REPRESENTATIVE NMC FEEDBACK – OPEN

No extra information given above the information from B Streich on NMC Planning and Ops
meeting given.
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29.0 REVIEW S-FRM-16 FOR AUDIT DURATION – OPEN

S-frm-16 Audit Grading reviewed, and it was agreed that no changes are required to the audit
length criteria for MMM at this time.

30.0 AC7140 AND AC7140/S – OPEN

Ballot comments reviewed as part of section 26.0.

31.0 AGENDA FOR JUNE 2019 MEETING – OPEN

Agenda items were established for the June 2019 Nadcap Meeting to be held in Paris, France.

32.0 TABLED SUBJECTS – OPEN

It was discussed on how the MMM Task Group could be organized if AM Powder and then Raw
Material accreditations were raised. The concern would be the time to review the different
accreditations and how this would fit into a five-day week.

ACTION ITEM: Staff Engineer to talk with PRI on how to organize group as processes covered
expands. (Due Date: 1-Jun-2019)

ACTION ITEM: Staff Engineer to discuss with PRI how multiple accreditations can be covered as
meeting max length is 5 days. (Due Date: 31-Mar-2019)

33.0 NEW TECHNOLOGIES – MMM – OPEN

No additional new technologies identified.

34.0 NEW BUSINESS – OPEN

No new business to discuss.

35.0 REVIEW ACTION ITEMS – OPEN,

RAIL updated and will be posted in eAuditnet > Resources > Documents > Public Documents.

ADJOURNMENT – 21-Feb-2019 – Meeting was adjourned at 3:00 p.m.

Minutes Prepared by: G. Goldhagen, gregory.goldhagen@utas.utc.com

J. Aston, jaston@p-r-i.org

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(select one)

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