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64/1383/CC

COMPILATION OF COMMENTS ON COMMITTEE DRAFT

Project number: Reference number of the


IEC 60364-4-44, A2, f1, Ed.1 CD
64/1344/CD
IEC/TC or SC Date of circulation
TC 64 2004-04-16
Title of the TC or SC:
Electrical installations and protection against electric shock

Title of the committee draft :


Amendment 2 to IEC 60364-4-44, Ed. 1: Electrical installations of buildings - Part 4: Protection for
safety - Part 4-44: Protection against voltage disturbances and measures against electromagnetic
influences - Clause 442: Protection of low-voltage installations against temporary overvoltages and faults
between high-voltage systems and earth

The above-mentioned document was distributed to National Committees with a request that comments be submitted

Comments received – see annex 1)


DECISION OF THE CHAIRMAN (in cooperation with the secretariat)

a A revised committee draft will be distributed as a committee draft for vote (CDV) by (date) ..........

b A revised committee draft will be distributed for comment by (date) 2004-05

c The committee draft and comments will be discussed at the next meeting (date) ..........
NOTE In the case of a proposal a or b made by the chairman, P-members objecting to such a proposal shall inform the
Central Office with copy to the secretary in writing within 2 months of the circulation of this compilation (see ISO/IEC
Directives, Part 1, 2.5.3).

Name or signature of the Secretary Name or signature of the Chairman

Reinhard PELTA Roland TALON

FORM CC (IEC)
2002-08-09
1)
to be collated on Form Comments and annexed.
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1. CZ G The Czech NC support the draft with Noted


no comments

2. DK G The requirements and the figures are Align the requirements and the Noted editorial
not aligned. figures.
Examples are given in some of the
following commennts and proposed
changes.

3. NZ G Supported without comment. Noted


4. PL G The Polish NC has no comments. Noted
5. SK G Slovak NC agrees to the document Noted
6. US G The US National Committee has no Noted
comment to offer on this document
at this time.

7. NL General E Use correct symbols as defined Use in the various clauses Uo, RE, IE, Accepted in principle see new text
under “symbols” Im instead of Uo, RE, IE and Im
8. UK General E Low voltage and high voltage do not Remove hyphens Preferred IEC form to be used
have hyphens in the ELV
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9. FR 440 G The introduction is intended to The introduction should read as General introduction to 60364-4-44
provide additional information and follows : and contents of Section 440 to be
not substitute some clauses. Part 4-44 of IEC 60364 covering the co-ordinated with MT3. For the next
protection against voltage CD of 442 the introductory text of
disturbances and electromagnetic 440 will be omitted.
disturbances is split in 3 main
sections as follows :
• Section 442 Protection of
low-voltage installations
against temporary
overvoltages and faults
between high-voltage
systems and earth
• Section 443 Protection
against overvoltages of
atmospheric origin or due
to switching
• Section 444 Protection
against voltage
disturbances and
electromagnetic
disturbances
Prior 2001 these sections were
edited separately as independent
document. Now there are gathered
in one document Part 4-44.
10. DE 440 Clause 440 E For correctness replace the word disturbing voltages See 9
Line 13 “overvoltages” with:
rd
11. DE 440 Clause 444 E Replace in the 3 line the wording Information technology equipment See 9
st
1 para “IT-equipment” with:
12. DE 440 Clause 444 E Amend the wording of the 5th line so .......phenomena may cause See 9
st
1 para as to read: electromagnetic interference and
overvoltages.
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13. DE 440 Clause 444 E Amend the wordinmg so as to read - where different electrical wiring See 9
Lines 7 and 8 as follows: systems are installed, e.g. power
supply systems and signalling
systems of information
technology equipment within a
building.
nd
14. FR 440 2 paragraph T The content of this paragraph is To transfer this first paragraph into See 9
more relevant to the scope of Part 440.1
44 than an introduction.
15. FR 440.1 T The scope should be a mix of the To modify as follows : See 9
proposed text in 440.1 and of the The rules of this part of IEC 60364
paragraphs of clause 440 are intended to provide requirements
concerning clause 440. for the safety of persons and
equipment in electrical installations
in the event of voltage disturbances
and electromagnetic disturbances
generated for different specified
reasons and transmitted via the
supply systems to electrical
installations.
The rules of this part do not apply to
systems which are wholly or partly
under control of public power supply
companies (see scope of IEC
60364-1) although disturbances
influencing the electrical installations
may be conducted via these supply
systems.
16. NO 440.1 T The scope should not be limited to Delete “....of persons and equipment See 9, clause to read “..to provide
persons and equipment . Fires due in electrical installations”. for safety of electrical installations”
to overvoltages may cause
considerable hazard also to
livestock.
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17. DE 440.2 Title of IEC E For correctness amend the quoted - Earthing arrangements, Accepted, editorial
60364-5-54 title so as to read: protective conductors and
And equipotential bonding conductors
Footnote 1) Delete footnote 1) because the Delete 1)
publication 60364-5-54 is available
18. FR 440.2 G IEC 61936-2 and -3 do not exist. Only refer to IEC 61936 in the whole Accepted
document.
19. FR 442.1 E Annex A is missing in this document Introduce annex A of the previous Contains unnecessary explanation
document and renumber.
20. DE 442.1 Note E In the first line delete the word “only” Only Accepted
beeing superfluous.

Amend the first sentence of the first


bullet indent to read as follows: - Fault between the high-voltage Accepted
system(s) and earth (442.2 to
442.4)
21. FR 442.1.1 E The scope should be a mix of the At the end of the scope the following See 9 and new text
proposed text in 442.1.1 and of the note :
paragraphs of clause 440 NOTE – See the text of 440 referring
concerning clause 442. to clause 442.
22. NO 442.1.1 T The scope and object should not be Delete “....of persons and equipment Accepted, see 16
limited to persons and equipment. in electrical installations”.
23. DE 442.1.2 Symbols E There is a missing consistency Align the explanation of symbols in See 7
between some of the symbols in subclause 442.1.2 with the symbols
subclause 442.1.2 and those used used in the mentioned figures.
in the figures 44B1, 44B2, 44C1,
44C2, 44D1, 44D2, 44E1, 44E2,
44F1, 44F2, 44G1, 44G2, 44H1,
44H2, 44J1, 44J2, 44K1, 44K2.
24. DK 442.1.2 E Align the description of the symbols Replace “Ur” with “Uf” Accepted
with the figures 44B-C-D-E-F-G-H-J-
K.
- Description of Uf is missing.
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25. DK 442.1.2 Second E The reference to fig 44E in the Change “44E” to “44E2” Accepted, also see 7
paragraph description of Ih is wrong as only fig
44E2 includes a first fault in the LV
circuit.
26. DK 442.1.2 Second E The reference to fig 44F and - G in Change “44F and G” to “44F2 and Accepted
paragraph the description of Id are wrong as 44G2”
only figures 44F2 and –G2 include a
first fault in the LV circuit.
27. DK 442.1.2 E In the description of Id the presence Add in the description of Id “in a No change, Id does not depend on
of a high-voltage fault is not period when there is a high voltage the existence of a fault in the high-
mentioned as in the description of Ih. fault and” after “during”. voltage system, in the examples
where it is used (44F2 and 44G2).
28. FR 442.1.2 E Misprint. To change Ur into Uf . See 24
29. FR 442.1.2 T Why a difference between Id and ih Delete Ih In the case 44E2 Ih is higher than Id
? Delete references to figures 44F and because of the voltage rise caused
44G in definition of Id by the high-voltage fault on the low-
voltage system. However there are
no special requirements for Id in
respect of a high-voltage to earth
fault – the requirements for Id are set
in 413.1.5. See new text.
30. NO 442.1.2 E/T The symbols in the text and the The symbols in the text and the Accepted
corresponding figures should be corresponding figures must be
reviewed. identical.
31. SE 442.1.2 E Some of the symbols used in this Add the symbols and their definitions: See 28, also change UL to “50”
section are not listed Uf, UL and UT
32. FR 442.1.3 E Replace the title by Power frequency Accepted
fault-voltage
33. DK 442.1.3 Second line E It is not the fault – and touch Add “curve” after the word “by”. See new text
voltages which should be named
respectively F and T, but the curves.
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34. DK 442.1.4 44A E As the value of permissible power Place the disconnecting time in the Replace “Disconnecting time” by
frequency stress-voltage shall be first column and the permissible “Duration”
chosen as a consequence of the power frequency stress-voltage in the
actual disconnecting time the second column.
sequence should be changed.
35. IT 442.1.4 Table 44A T Italian National Committee informs Noted, however the values used are
that in the Italian Standard 11-1 the aligned with 3.3.3.2.2 of IEC60664-
condition corresponding to 1, see 37
disconnecting time not higher 5s is
U0 + 500 V and not U0 + 1200 V.
36. DK 442.1.4 44A E The text of note 1 is too important to Move the text of note 1 up to the front Move Note 1 to 442.1.2, where the
Note 1 be hidden in a note in the table as it of the sub-clause but not as a note. term is defined.
seems to be definition for power
frequency stress-voltage
37. FR 442.1.4 Note 3 E Wrong crossed reference. To change (see 3.7.1 of IEC 664.1) Accepted to read “see 3.3.3.2.2 of
by (see 1.3.7.1 and 3.3.3.2.2 of IEC IEC 60664-1”
60664-1).
38. DE 442.3 Heading E Replace “system “ with: Systems Accepted for second system in title
39. NO 442.3 T In Norway IT-system are commonly Introduce a new figure – a modified Similar to 44D2
used in power distribution and in version of Figure 44 E2: Add Note to Fig 44D2 “The PE may
building installations. The figures Draw a line from the bend of the line be additionally connected to earth at
does not cover Norwegian practice. just below Z and perpendicular to the the low-voltage installation”
line from the exposed part of the
installation to RA

Introduce a new figure – a modified


version of Figure 44 F2:
Draw a line from a new connection
point just below Z and perpendicular Similar to fig 44H2 Add Note Fig
to the line from the exposed part of 44H2 “The PE may be additionally
the installation to RA. Introduce a new connected to earth at the low-voltage
RA between the new connection point installation”
and earth.
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40. DE 442.3.1 (a) E Change formulae in figures to reflect


The formula in the second line is Correct formula into Uf = R x Im definitions in 442.1.2
wrong:
( see Figure 44 B1 ) Accepted
Replace “ (see Figure 44B TNa) “
with:
41. DK 442.3.1 Item (a) first E The reference to 44B TN-a is wrong Change to 44B1 See 40
paragraph and
note 2
42. FR 442.3.1 (a) E • A voltage cannot be To modify as follows : Accepted in principle, see new text
disconnected. The neutral conductor of the low-
• The disconnection may voltage system may be connected to
be achieved either in HV the earthing arrangement of the
or at the main LV transformer sub-station when the
protective device. disconnecting time of the HV
• Change of figure protective device does not exceed
reference (to be applied the time given by Figure 44A for a
wherever necessary voltage Uf = RExIE (see Figure
throughout the text). 44B1).
43. ZA 442.3.1 (a) Editorial The reference (see Figure 44B TN-a) Align the reference See 40
Figure 44 B1 does not agree with the title of Figure
44 B1
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44. FR 442.3.1 (a) Note 1 T In TN system, the neutral conductor To modify as follows : Accepted
cannot be earthed in several time. InNOTE 1 This condition is based on
TN-C the PEN needs to be earthed the simple worst-case where the
as many times as possible. low-voltage system neutral
conductor (PEN conductor in TN-C
systems) is earthed only at the
transformer sub-station earthing
arrangement. Where the PE the
neutral or PEN is earthed at several
points or the earthing is part of a
global earthing system both in
compliance with the relevant
requirements of clause 9.2.3 of IEC
61936-1, the disconnection
requirements stated in (a) of this
clause are met.
45. ZA 442.3.1 Note1 Technical / The reference in the text to clause Correct the reference clause in IEC Reference is 2.7.19
Last line Editorial 9.2.3 of IEC 61936-1 is not correct 61936-1
46. NO 442.3.1 (a) and (b) T The designations TN-a and TN-b in Delete the designations “TN-a” and Editorial, see 40
(a) and (b) is not defined terms and “TN-b” in the text in (a) and (b).
is confusing. In NOTE 1 to indent (a) introduce a
reference to Figure 44B1.
In NOTE to indent (b) introduce a
reference to Figure 44B2.
47. DE 442.3.1 (a) Note 2 E Replace “ ...for the system TNa (see .....for the system shown in figure Accepted, see 40
figure 44B ) “ with: 44B1.....

48. FR 442.3.1 (a) Note 2 T There is always a LEP in a building To change as follows : Add a note with respect to TT
and this note is applicable to each NOTE 2 In general, for the system systems that no touch voltage in
system (TN, TT and IT) TN-a (see figure 44B), inside the event of HV fault
building, taking into account the
protective-equipotential bonding , no
dangerous touch voltage will appear.
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49. ZA 442.3.1 (a)Note 2 E The text Align the reference See 47


Figure 44 B1 “In general, for the system TN-
a…….” does not agree with the title
of Figure 44 B1
50. DE 442.3.1 (b) E Replace “ ...(see TNb in figure Accepted, see 40
44B).”with: .... ( see figure 44B2.)
51. DK 442.3.1 (b) first E The reference to 44B TN-b is wrong Change to 44B2 See 50
paragraph
52. ZA 442.3.1 (b) E The reference (see Figure 44B TN-b) Align the reference See 50
44 B2 does not agree with the title of Figure
44 B2
53. DE 442.3.2 (a) E Align diagrams with definitions in
The formula in the 2nd line is wrong: Correct formula into U2 = R x Im + U0 442.1.2

Replace “ ....(see figure 44C TTa).” ...... (see figure 44 C1).


With:
54. DK 442.3.2 (a) E Replace “stress voltage” with “power Accepted
Second line frequency stress voltage”
55. DK 442.3.2 (a) and (b) E The references to figures 44C TT-a Replace with “figure 44C1” and Accepted
and 44C TT-b is wrong “figure 44C2”.
56. ES 442.3.2 a) T The note 2 of 442.3.1 (a) should also Add the following note: See 48
apply to TT system NOTE 2 In general, for the system TT
(see figure 44C), inside the building
where the protective-equipotential
bonding is applied, no touch voltage
appears.
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57. FR 442.3.2 (a) T • The disconnection may To modify as follows : Accept


be achieved either in HV The neutral conductor of the low-
or at the main LV voltage system may be connected to
protective device. the earthing arrangement of the
transformer sub-station when the
• Change of figure relation between the stress-voltage
reference. U2, (Re x lE + U0) and the
disconnecting time of the HV
protective device given in table 44A
is complied with for the low-voltage
equipment of the installation (see
figure 44C1).
58. FR 442.3.2 (a) T There is always a LEP in a building To change as follows : Error in collation
and this note is applicable to each NOTE 2 In general, for the system
system (TN, TT and IT) TN-a (see figure 44B), inside the
building, taking into account the
protective-equipotential bonding , no
dangerous touch voltage will appear.
59. ZA 442.3.2 (a) E The reference (see Figure 44C TT-a) Align the reference See 55
44 C1 does not agree with the title of Figure
44 C1
60. DE 442.3.2 (b) E Replace “ ....(see TT b in figure See 55
44C).” with: .....( see figure 44 C2 ).
61. ES 442.3.2 b) T The note of 442.3.1 (b) should also Add the following note: Accept, (but not then a TT system),
apply to TT system NOTE Where the transformer sub-
NOTE Where the transformer sub-
station is within a building it may not
station is within a building it may not
be possible to make the necessary
be possible to make the earthing
separation between the earthing
arrangement of the transformer sub-
arrangement of the transformer sub-
station electrically independent of the
station and the earthing of the
neutral earthing arrangement of the
installation.
low voltage system neutral conductor.
62. FR 442.3.2 (b) E The last sentence only corresponds Replace (see TT-b in figure 44C) by See 55
to b). (see TT in figure 44C2).
To move the last sentence at the Accepted
end of b).
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63. ZA 442.3.2 (b) E The reference (see TT-b in Figure Align the reference See 55
44 C1 44C) does not agree with the title of
Figure 44 C2
64. DE 442.3.3 (a) E The formula in the 2nd line is wrong: Correct formula into Uf = R x Im Diagrams to be aligned with
definitions in 442.1.2
65. DK 442.3.3 (a) E Also the IT systems of figures 44J Replace the reference to figures “44D Replace “and 44H” by “,44J and
first paragraph and 44K show a connection between and 44H” with “44D, 44H, 44J and 44K”
the eposed conductive parts of the 44K”.
equipment and the earthing
arrangement of the transformer
substation.
66. FR 442.3.3 T There is always a LEP in a building To change as follows : Accepted as change to Note 2 of
and this note is applicable to each NOTE 2 In general, for the system 442.3.1
system (TN, TT and IT) TN-a (see figure 44B), inside the
building, taking into account the
protective-equipotential bonding , no
dangerous touch voltage will appear.
67. FR 442.3.3 (a) T • A voltage cannot be To change as follows : Accepted in principle see new text
st
1 paragraph disconnected. The exposed-conductive-parts of the
equipment of the low-voltage
• The disconnection may installation may only be connected to
be achieved either in HV the earthing arrangement of the
or at the main LV transformer sub-station when the
protective device. disconnecting time of the HV or of
the main LV protective device
exceeds the time given by Figures
44D and 44H for a voltage Uf = (RE
x lE).
68. FR 442.3.3 (a) 1st dash T This dash applies to figures 44E to To read : Accepted
44H where the exposed-conductive- (see figures 44E to 44H).
parts are not connected to the same
earthing arrangement of the
transformer sub-station.
69. FR 442.3.3 Last paragraph E The last paragraph only concerns To move the last paragraph at the Accepted
b). end of b).
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70. ZA 442.3.3 (a) E The text Align the reference Editorial accepted
second bullet “ for the system IT b (see figure 44E)
44 E2 ...” does not agree with the title of
Figure 44 E2
71. DE 442.4.1 1st line E Add to the wording after “neutral Accepted in principle see new text
conductor” : ( PEN conductor )

Reason: In TN systems the PEN is


earthed.
72. FR 442.4.1 E To modify the figure references. To read : Accepted, also correct formula at the
(see figures figure 44B2 and 44C2). end of the clause.
rd
73. ZA 442.4.1 3 line E The reference (see Figures TN-b in Align the reference See 72
44B, 44C figure 44B and TT-b in figure 44C)
does not agree with the titles of
Figure 44 B2 and Figure 44 C2)
74. FR 442.4.2 E Misprint. To read : Accepted
(RE.IE+U0. 3)
75. DK 442.4.2 First line E The terminology “low voltage Replace “consumer’s installation” Accpeted
installation” is used all over the with “low voltage installation”.
document.
76. DE 442.4.2 Last line E The formula is not correct. It should R x Im + √3 U0 Diagrams to be aligned with the text
read:
77. DK 442.4.2 Last line E Add “3” after “√” See 74
78. DE 442.5 Heading E For correctness amend heading to 442.5 Power frequency stress Accepted in principle see new text
read: voltage in case of loss of the PEN
conductor in a TN system or the
neutral conductor in a TT system
79. DE 442.5 1st line E Add to the wording after “neutral Accepted in principle see new text
conductor” : ( PEN conductor )
In TN systems the PEN is dealt with.
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80. FR 442.6 E For a better understanding. To read as follows : Accepted, see new text
Consideration shall be given to the
fact that, if a line conductor of an IT
system is earthed accidentally,
basic, double and reinforced
insulation as well as components
rated for the voltage between line
and neutral conductors can be
temporarily stressed with the line-to-
Iine voltage. The stress voltage can
reach up to U = 3 U0.
81. NL 442.6 T The mentioned condition applies for Modify the heading: Add: this is an IT system with
IT systems with distributed neutral Power frequency stress voltage in distributed earthing
only case of accidental earthing of a line Amend: in event of fault to earth
conductor in an IT system with
distributed neutral.
82. NL 442.6 T Certain equipment may be excluded ad a following note: equipment may Accepted
for use in an IT system with not be designed for use in an IT
distributed neutral e.g. equipment in system with distributed neutral
the field of IEC 60950
83. DK 442.7 Headline E Add “Power frequency” in front of the Accepted
headline.
84. FR 442.7 T It should be clearly indicated To change as follows : Accepted
between what parts of the Consideration shall be given to the
installation, the stress voltage fact that, if a short-circuit in the LV
applies in case of short-circuit installation occurs between a line
between a line conductor and the conductor and the neutral conductor
neutral conductor. the voltage between the other line
conductors and the neutral can be
stressed. The stress voltage can
reach the value of 1,45 U0 for a time
up to 5 s.
85. NO 442.7 T The origin of U= 1,45 U0 is not clear. Should be clarified. The factor reflects the movement of
the star point.
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86. IT Figures G We suggest that the figures from 44 Add to text diagrams are informative Not necessary, no change
B1 to 44 J2 should be transferred to
an information Annex, been the main
text of the document sufficient clear.
87. IT Figures E We have the following editorial Figures to be aligned with the
comments. symbols defined in 442.1.2
The symbols shown in the figures
are not in line with symbols shown in
442.1.2, e.g:
the symbols RE and IE are mentioned
as R and I;
the touch voltage is indicated as Uf
and not Ur.
In figure 44E and 44 F2 Ih is
indicated as Id.
In figure 44G2 the current Id should
be indicated.
88. ZA Figure 44 T There are no figures and references Introduce references and figures Introduce two new figures, so that
to the TN-S system. This will lead to applicable to the TN-S system TN-S and TN-C-S are covered
misunderstanding and confusion.
89. FR Figure 44 E To be consistent with the symbols To change : See 87
as defined in 442.1.2. • Im into IE and
• R into RE

• To use different symbols Accepted, see new text


The same symbol used for the
windings of the transformer should between the transformer
not be used for the loads. windings and the loads.
90. ZA Figure 44 T There are no figures and references Introduce references and figures See 88
to the TN-C-S system. This will lead applicable to the TN-C-S system
to misunderstanding and confusion.
91. DK Figure 44A E It is not the fault - and touch voltages Replace as follows: See new text
which should be named respectively Maximum duration of fault voltage
F and T, but the curves. (curve F) and touch voltage (curve T)
due to ….
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92. IT Figure 44A T The curve shown is not taken from Adopt Curve Z2 from IEC 61936 and
IEC 61936-1. delete touch voltage curve as no
requirements are provided in 442
Furthermore we suggest to replace related to this curve,
this curve by the curve taken by HD TC 99 have started maintenance of
637 S1:1998 and based on the IEC doc,61936-1, and will be
following assumption: recommending this curve for general
• Current paths 1 hand – 2 application.
feet;
• 50 % probability of body
impedance (see IEC 60479-
1);
• 5 % probability of ventricular
fibrillation (see IEC 60479-
1);
• Additional impedance 1000
Ώ.
Reference also be made to curves
referred to other values of additional
impedance (see nnex C of HD 637
S1).

93. SE Figure 44A E The symbols Uf, and UT are missing Introduce the symbols. Accepted
in the text and the figure.
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No. National Clause/ Paragraph Type of COMMENTS Proposed change OBSERVATIONS OF THE
Committ Subclau Figure/ Table comment SECRETARIAT
ee se (General/ on each comment submitted
Technical/
Editorial)

94. DE Figures 44B - 44 E/T a) We assume in all the drawings the Discuss in WG 9 the four proposals Accepted in principle see new text
K right hand part of the LV installation a), b), c) and d) with regard to
is shown as a 3-phase current-using improve the draft.
equipment with windings like a
motor.

b) Supposing this is correct we


wonder as to whether for easier
understanding the 3- phase current-
using equipment should be shown
with the symbols for ohmic
resistance.

c) Furthermore, we wonder as to
whether at the right hand side the
enclosure of the current using
equipment shown in broken+ dotted
lines should be identified with the
term “exposed-conductive-part”. This
is also for alignment with the
description of RA as given in
subclause 442.1.2.

d) If this agreed we also like to


recommend that the abbreviation
“LV” should be removed from the
current-using equipment and instead
be placed at the secondary windings
of the Sub-station shown at the left
hand side.
95. DK Figures 44B-C-D- E - Change the sub-station earth See 87
E-F-G-H-J-K. resistance “R” to “RE”
- Change the sub-station earth
fault current “Im” to “IE”
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No. National Clause/ Paragraph Type of COMMENTS Proposed change OBSERVATIONS OF THE
Committ Subclau Figure/ Table comment SECRETARIAT
ee se (General/ on each comment submitted
Technical/
Editorial)

96. SE Figure 44 In the figures showing an IT system , Change the arrows. Accepted
IT systems especially showing a first fault in the
LV system, U2 should indicate the
voltage between the PE/enclosure
and L1 or L2 (i.e. a phase conductor
without a fault).
97. FR Figure 44D1 E Misprint. To change « A.1. » by « LV » at the Accepted
top and right side of the figure.
98. FR Figure 44D2 T In the case as shown in this figure, • To change the definition of See 96
U1 = U2 = 0 because U1 and U2 U1 and U2, for instance
are measured between the faulty between L1 and PE (as
phase and PE. If U1 and U2 are indicated in the existing
measured between L1 and L2 and section 442).
• If accepted, for
PE then U1 = U2 = U0 . 3 . consistency, this should
be done in all figures.
99. FR Figures 44E2, E Replace UL by 50 V. Accepted
F2, G2
100. FR Figure 44J T This case is not used To be deleted. See new text

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