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What is single and three phase supply and what happens when neutral of your supply
disconnects?
Mahesh Kumar Jain (mod) July 30, 2020 49 Comments Ask A Question
You had either observed or heard from others about the high or low voltage supply problem at one’s house. The doubt, most of the time, goes to the poor
quality of supply voltage or voltage surge. But there is another reason also and, i.e. ‘Neutral Disconnect’. In this post, we will examine how neutral
disconnect and its location affects your power supply performance.
The power supply to your house is either single-phase, i.e. 2-wire with phase and
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neutral or 4-wire with 3 phase and neutral. Read more on single and 1 - What is a neutral Terminal?
three-phase supply. A power supply is distributed in parallel to the various 2 - What is Neutral Disconnection?
house either single-phase or three-phase supply system depending on the 2.1 - At the transformer
sanctioned load. The transformer at the substation is delta-star connected wherein
2.2 - At your house
the input is 3-wire 3 phase, and the output of the transformer is 4-wire 3 phase.
2.3 - At the house with single-phase connection
Depending on the load, the power company sanctions either single or three-phase
2.4 - Neutral disconnect but touches the ground
supply to your house. When it is a single-phase, alternately the power is distributed
3 - How often it happens?
from the R, Y and B phase so that the load on the system is balanced.
4 - What is the solution?
At the transformer
The transformer is feeding load in all the three-phase, and distribution is such that load is balanced within plus/minus 5-15%. Due to the disconnection of
neutral at the transformer, its potential will be floating depending on the load unbalance. Now if the load unbalance is significant say plus-minus 15%, the
phase having a low load, the voltage will go high and the electronic equipment provided in that phase may burn and reduce the load further any may start a
domino effect. In the meantime, phase having high load will experience low voltage but will not cause any
damage to electronics/light/fan. But it may damage the motor-operated equipment, and it catches smoke or
flames, will reduce the load in that phase or isolated due to protection of stabiliser action. In any case, the load
is reduced, and voltage going high. The neutral may now shift to stability, and the sequence of damages to the
equipment may stop.
It is how it explains the complaints about damaging of equipment in the society and every apartment/house
experience this problem.
At your house
The load unbalance will be significant, and the voltage unbalance will also be high. There is a likelihood of substantial damage to the electronic equipment
in lines with the phenomenon explained above.
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SHANKAR V NARAYANAN
I have moved to a new house in Coimbatore where there is a provision for 3 phase connection but the builder is
providing only Single phase connection from EB. My contractor tells me that if you have only Single you cannot run 2
ACs at the same time. Please let me know if this is true and also I can and should insist on getting 3 phase
connection. Thanks and regards - Narayanan
Also, the sanctioned load does not always mean the sum of wattages of all the appliances in your house.
It should ideally be equal to the peak wattage that is being used at any given time. Please note that
geysers can be of 2 kW or 3 kW. But you may not use a geyser when you may use an AC. So
Sanctioned load has to be applied accordingly.
Bhanwar Singh
Neutral to earth voltage limit as per standard ??
Ravi Prakash
Dear Sir,
Your article is well articulated n precise .
I have a problem at my factory and will deeply appreciate your advice / solutions.
In the recent 4 to 5 months , we have had almost 6 burn outs where all my electronic meters / controllers / display
units have burned out .
The problem is as follows - ours is LT connection of 60hp frm the govt connection ( bescom). Usually there is power
failure with a bang sound on the transformer near by .
And when the power resumes later , there is sudden spike in the neutral , and there is return power I assume . All the
single phase instruments connected burn out . And the neutral subsides and when we check later there is no voltage
in that and everything is normal . Inspite of having MCBs and fuses ,the equipment is burned out . We have
complained to the authorities and they say everything is normal from their end. Our ground connection is intact and
well connected .
This has become a perineal problem and constant expense incurred . Beyond that the process which is midway gets
effected . I would deeply appreciate if a solution or a mechanism of protection is suggested to avoid the above
problem . Thanking you .
Regards, Ravi.
My ph - 9886871726
Also, is it possible to disconnect (from mainline) or switch off the instruments in case of a power cut so
that they are protected by sudden spikes? You can reconnect or switch them on after a few minutes
when the power is back.
rajesh
Excellent article.. i couldn't understand the drawing though:(
not from engineering background but i made sure earthing was done in our home long back when i realized its
importance
i stumbled upon this piece on internet 'bonding earth to neutral' and its driving me crazy
below in the comments Mr. Rajendran also said he looped earth to neutral at service panel
except the articles referring to US and EU elect.code regarding the 'bonding' i couldn't find any Indians telling us how
& why to do it
unbonded earthing gives safe return path for hot appliances but we're not protected if earthing breaks.
bonding will let circuit breaker sense the current in neutral line and cuts off the supply until we remove the faulty
applianc
* if its such a great feature, why not more people doing it in India?
* anyone pls explain how we do it in layman terms and a pencil drawing if possible
thanks,
rajesh
hi it's me again. I read somewhere saying India has TT type distribution and here we're not allowed to
bond earth with neutral...
Only option we get from hot gadgets is installing 30mA RCD
rajesh
* isn't it dangerous if neutral breaks when 'bonded'
wouldn't the current flow through earth in absence of neutral?
Please suggest
Thanks
High neutral current is an indicator of unbalanced load across the three phases. Do you have a single-
phase connection or 3 phase one? The unbalanced load will result in high or low voltage which can
damaged appliances. Do you experience high or low voltages?
Pardon for my question if it is too naïve, I just wish to understand that : "When you mention the "Load +
Earth" as sink, does this mean the "return path" for the current is just the natural Earth from the Earthing
all the way to the Earthing at the Transformer / Substation ? "
In this question I am considering : " The Load(s) is (are) connected to a 'Single Phase' alone and the
return is through Earthing" - Kindly correct me here if I am wrong.
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