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8/10/22, 7:59 PM Gmail - On buddhism & Vedic texts
sudarshan
<sudarshanpillay839011@gmail.com>
On buddhism & Vedic texts
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sudarshan 1 August 2022 at
<sudarshanpillay839011@gmail.com> 14:18
To: knockknock.vikz@gmail.com,
"vikashranjanguptaonline@gmail.com"
<vikashranjanguptaonline@gmail.com>
Kindly find the attached files below.

I saw some videos on the agnostic youtube channel, which
went against the things that I've heard earlier - I'm
sending some audios of what I had heard in this email
below.
I'm in a confused state now, please go through them & let
me know what you think.
YS _/\_
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Are the Mahabharata real or stories.mp3
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Aryan Invasion Theory - vedic perspective .mp3
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What is the Vedic perspective of Buddhism.mp3
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My lifetime of research; this is my conviction & all that I've

learnt till today:
On evolution theory - refutations:

https://youtu.be/M1sB4W9REJg
Does God exist - debate:

https://youtu.be/0tYm41hb48o
Sanskrit language dating:

https://youtu.be/ZCndkNCXqu8
Reincarnation & heaven in Buddhism:

https://youtu.be/Mqh94-fC87g
https://youtu.be/n3w5ZUs7ayI
Documented tales of near near death experience (NDE)

and past life memories.
https://youtu.be/wTEorS_TGVw
The game changers - this documentary shows facts to

dispel the meat protein myth & exposes the supplement
industry marketing propaganda.
https://youtu.be/rTGM2KjNGUU
Soil change crisis - what we need to focus upon, instead of

our own selfishness/ self obsession. https://youtu.be/
q6nmRISi2lo
Real - Tukaram Maharaj departure event:

https://youtu.be/4LFfOiwNYfQ
The reasonable thing to do next:

https://youtu.be/9N-lyJP18p8
On prithviraj chauhan cannot have 300 kg battalion kit? It

was actually only 35 kg total?
* The battle kit of Indian army is more than what they are
telling of prithviraj.
* Even commandos today do training of carrying 100 kg
weight for miles, all day long, without food & rest.
• There are powerlifters lifting 1+ ton weight for reps.
• There are female weightlifters lifting half a ton for reps.
• Even immature gym goers lift more than 100 kgs, just
after 2-3 years of training.
* (I myself had lifted 140 kgs deadlift for reps & 350 kg leg
press for many reps, on a vegetarian diet. You can confirm
this in my local gym)
Hanuman jumped to eat the sun:

• Sun's diameter is large, but Hanuman was a rudra avatar
& a vayu putra by birth, and we have episodes from
beginning of Brahma's creation of how the thousands of
rudras went about doing destruction in all directions.
• Regarding proof weather it's logical or not - supernatural

itself means beyond human computation.
• hypocrisy - Those agnoists themselves believe in
supernatural events - Buddha getting enlightenment from
within/ early Buddhists getting teachings from Buddha via
dreams/ existence of karma reincarnation heaven etc.
From a scientism perspective, the teachings of Buddha
boils down to hallucinations, & not a supernatural
enlightenment.
God's omniscience vs our free will:

• Krishna knew duryodhan's mentality, yet he went as
Shanti duta.
• Was Krishna unable to influence his mind & change his
destiny; if he was capable then why he didn't do it? -> he
didn't do it because he doesn't want to interfere with
individual free will.
• If god was interested in full fledged dictatorship, then the
world would have been a in helpless condition, we would
be powerless to endure the uncompromising infliction.
• If the creator was bent over malevolence - we could do
nothing except suffer asper his will.
* At least have some humility by looking at our vulnerability
& acknowledging his ability.
Why a good god let's evil exist? Why is he absent?

• Evil is nothing but other ordinary souls misusing their free
will to cause pain to others around them.
• For us to realise that we cannot be happy by staying
away from God & his protection.
• Material world is a opportunity for envious souls who
want to stay away from the presence of God. Don't want
any interruption and subordination towards God.

• and when God agrees to facilitate our desire of getting
seperated away from him, there's no amount of human
endeavour which can point us to presence of God - except
his own revelation, by his own accord.
• is there any better alternative to fulfill the desires of
someone who wants us to get away from them (bahir
mukha)? While knowing well that everything is dependent
on you & he cannot exist without you?
* We came to this material world by our own arrogance, it's
our responsibility to fix that and get out of here. Nobody is
obliged to fulfill our desires.
* When everyone envious are residing in material world,
it's not rocket science that there wouldn't be any peace
over here. We took this decision despite knowing well that
this place is full of rascals.
* But yet, out of his kindness, he sends his representatives
to remind us about him. In every yuga, in all places over
the world, in different time zones, in different climate &
environment.
How to reunite back with God?

• Simply surrender.
• simply show to God that our longing for him is greater
than our greed for this world. (Don't just show, make it
real)
What was the religion before Buddha, were there no

Brahmans before Buddha was born?
• Buddha was son of a king (administrative class).
• When he first went out for a tour, his charioteer
addressed his curiosity on suffering of life from a
perspective of Satya/ papa/ samsara/ karma etc.
• when he was teaching to his disciples; he interacted with

Brahmans & kings & buisness men & ordinary workers.
(Was there any other Varna/ class of people other than
these four/ or even any less Varna than these four?
Doesn't this prove that Brahman dharma is not a recent
fabrication as claimed by Dalits/ shudras?)
• while Buddhism doesn't talk about God, they do believe
in lots of demigods & supernatural beings in heaven. They
are in higher realm means they might be having higher
knowledge & scope to attain Nirvana than us.
* Varna is not by birth, by qualities. Just the fact that
shudras can work hard and get high position in society
means they have other Varna qualities. And those who are
lazy & not hard working & Lower than shudra/ chandal -
yes, they need to be kept within their worth, they shouldn't
be given a respectable position in society, we need
responsible leaders who can anchor the society who can
sacrifice personal self interest for the sake of welfare of
whole society - who puts higher principals before his own
comforts.
* Those who try to learn scriptures without a Guru, who
are too puffed up to surrender to guru - it means he lacks
humility & kindness. If such rascals get into higher position
which is meant to be occupied by responsible person, then
surely the society will get into chaos.
* If those people honestly want to learn scriptures, then the
best thing to do unto them would be killing them & sending
them for reincarnation, so that in next life they get a
suitable position to become learned & hence could handle
the high position responsibly.
* Only those people have problems with the killing of
shambuka, who don't see the multi-life perspective, due to
not accepting reincarnation.
* Brahmans are not someone who delight in torturing

slaves. They delight in their sadhana. Their purpose is to
reorient the focus of the society towards higher reality, just
as the focus of Kshatriya is to facilitate material & spiritual
harmony in the society.
Buddhists believe:
* There is no concept of God & soul, only matter is the
reality. And our existence is just a glitch/ illusion. (Buddha
never rejected god, it's just that he was neutral over the
subject because his focus was on common sense moral
principles)
* Universe is eternally existing, and we are supposed to
reject everything because it is meaningless & painful. (So,
are the supernatural beings in heaven also in pain? Or did
Buddha ignore this topic too?)
* Laws of karma & reincarnation exists forever, for no other
reason than imposing repeated old age disease death.
* Our goal is to give up all desires & go away into
nothingness shunya. Where were the prospect Nirvana
candidates (everyone) before falling into material world?
* Even after becoming enlightened Buddhists keep coming
back, for the sake of helping others become free from
illusion/ reality. This is their occupation for the rest of their
eternity, that's the whole substance of their Nirvana
existence. (Check: Bodhisattva vow)
* they have no control over which species they incarnate
into, they still keep coming & experiencing old age n
disease etc, So what's the point in helping others when
others will still have to come back to experience old age
etc?
* Despite all his meditation a Buddhist doesn't gain

anything special over a materialist: both of them get sick &
old, can come back in any species, require to depend on
grains to stay alive, yet the materialist lives a more comfort
life while losing nothing. What difference does it make at
all?
* Why to wait for Nirvana, if your ultimate occupation is to
help others, then why not start doing humanitarian
activities from this life itself? What's the point in waiting for
rebirth?

Case study:
There would be many Buddhists who also got
enlightenment in footsteps of Buddha, who are repeatedly
reincarnating for the sake of welfare mission:
* then why is there zero revelation/ awareness about the
experience in realm of Nirvana? What is the size of
universe? The total population of the members of Nirvana
dham? Will there come a time where nobody is left to
attain Nirvana?
* Isn't s the boom of technology superior than Nirvana,
because all Buddhist countries are carried away with
technological advances, making forget their actual life
aim?
* While Buddhists today are eating meat, doing sin, least
interested in doing meditation for enlightenment, very
eager to earn lots of money, fully diluted out in their
determination.. Now where are the past life Buddhas' who
were supposed to help others out?
> Blind faith in scientism will lead to no spritual growth.

And scientism itself is self contradictory.
(https://youtu.be/JQVmkDUkZT4)
> Buddhism being non-theistic (not anti-theistic), cannot

give us anything beyond basic moral lessons like ahimsa
& tolerance. (https://youtu.be/Vk6up8qVFA4)
On Natural selection:
My view: Why did we not evolve over our inner anarthas &
destructive drives & unhealthy hormones - stress
hormone, lipids, cortisol, insulin - knowing well that it's not
suitable for survival of the fittest? while it is totally harmful
for us, without having any much benefit.
Shouldn't natural selection have at least modified these
hormones into more positively functionality?
Is this logical? To eat non veg by maintaining large scale

slaughter houses and doing cheating & verbal abuses &
injury to others on one side, and to ask why we're suffering
so much by stress & depression & dejection, on the other
side? Isn't this hypocrisy?
Buddha said, doubt everything & find your own path.

My question: You can go about doubting everything in your
surroundings, but how can you find something which you
don't know that you don't know about it?
Bhaja Govindam
by Śaṅkarācārya:
(the hard reality of our physical health & mental health &
financial stability & family relatives;
my view: use material facilities as tool to attain higher
reality, don't make material accumulation our final goal
instead)
*भज गोविन्दम् स्तोत्र |*

*– आदि शंकराचार्य*
_भज गोविन्दं भज गोविन्दं, गोविन्दं भज मूढ़मते।_

_संप्राप्ते सन्निहिते काले, न हि न हि रक्षति डु कृ ञ् करणे॥१॥_
हे मोह से ग्रसित बुद्धि वाले मित्र, गोविंद को भजो, गोविन्द का नाम लो,
गोविन्द से प्रेम करो क्योंकि मृत्यु के समय व्याकरण के नियम याद
रखने से आपकी रक्षा नहीं हो सकती है॥१॥
Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, O

fool! The rules of grammar will not save you at the time of
your death.
_मूढ़ जहीहि धनागमतृष्णाम्, कु रु सद्बुद्धिमं मनसि वितृष्णाम्।_

_यल्लभसे निजकर्मोपात्तम्, वित्तं तेन विनोदय चित्तं॥२॥_
हे मोहित बुद्धि! धन एकत्र करने के लोभ को त्यागो। अपने मन से इन

समस्त कामनाओं का त्याग करो। सत्यता के पथ का अनुसरण करो,
अपने परिश्रम से जो धन प्राप्त हो उससे ही अपने मन को प्रसन्न रखो॥
२॥
O fool! Give up your thirst to amass wealth, devote your

mind to dispassion and thoughts of the Real. Be content
with what comes to you through actions performed by your

own work.
_नारीस्तनभरनाभीदेशम्, दृष्ट्वा मागा मोहावेशम्।_

_एतन्मान्सवसादिविकारम्, मनसि विचिन्तय वारं वारम्॥३॥_
स्त्री शरीर पर मोहित होकर आसक्त मत हो। अपने मन में निरं तर

स्मरण करो कि ये मांस-वसा आदि के विकार के अतिरिक्त कु छ और
नहीं हैं॥३॥
Do not get drowned in delusion, infatuated with passion

and lusty desires, by seeing a woman's raised breasts and
navel. These are nothing but a modification of flesh and
fat, and the like. Do not fail to remember this again and
again in your mind.
_नलिनीदलगतजलमतितरलम्, तद्वज्जीवितमतिशयचपलम्।_
_विद्धि व्याध्यभिमानग्रस्तं, लोक शोकहतं च समस्तम्॥४॥_
जीवन कमल-पत्र पर पड़ी हुई पानी की बूंदों के समान अनिश्चित एवं

अल्प (क्षणभंगुर) है। यह समझ लो कि समस्त विश्व रोग, अहंकार और
दु:ख में डू बा हुआ है॥४॥
As water drops on a lotus leaf are unsteady and trembling,

in the same way life in this world is exceedingly unsteady
and restless. Know that the whole world is full of miseries,
afflicted by unhappiness and grief.
_यावद्वित्तोपार्जनसक्त:, तावन्निजपरिवारो रक्तः ।_

_पश्चाज्जीवति जर्जरदेहे, वार्तां कोऽपि न पृच्छति गेहे॥५॥_
जब तक व्यक्ति धनोपार्जन में समर्थ है, तब तक परिवार में सभी उसके

प्रति स्नेह प्रदर्शित करते हैं परन्तु अशक्त हो जाने पर उसे सामान्य
बातचीत में भी नहीं पूछा जाता है॥५॥
So long as a man is fit and able to support his family by

earning wealth, all those family members around him show
affection. But no one at home cares for him, even have a
word with him, when his body becomes invalid and totters
due to old age.
_यावत्पवनो निवसति देहे, तावत् पृच्छति कु शलं गेहे।_

_गतवति वायौ देहापाये, भार्या बिभ्यति तस्मिन्काये॥६॥_
जब तक शरीर में प्राण रहते हैं तब तक ही लोग कु शल पूछते हैं। शरीर

से प्राण वायु के निकलते ही पत्नी भी उस शरीर से डरती है॥६॥
When one is alive, his family members enquire kindly

about his welfare. But when the life-air stops and the soul
departs from the body, even his wife runs away in fear of
the corpse.
_बालस्तावत् क्रीडासक्तः , तरुणस्तावत् तरुणीसक्तः ।_

_वृद्धस्तावच्चिन्तासक्तः , परे ब्रह्मणि कोऽपि न सक्तः ॥७॥_
बचपन में खेल में रूचि होती है , युवावस्था में युवा स्त्री के प्रति
आकर्षण होता है, वृद्धावस्था में चिंताओं से घिरे रहते हैं पर प्रभु से कोई
प्रेम नहीं करता है॥७॥
The childhood is lost in attachment to games. The youth is

lost in attachment to woman. Old age passes with worry
and anxiety, thinking over many things. But there is hardly
anyone who wants to be lost (attached) in para-braman,

the Supreme Spirit.
_का ते कांता कस्ते पुत्रः , संसारोऽयमतीव विचित्रः ।_

_कस्य त्वं वा कु त अयातः , तत्त्वं चिन्तय तदिह भ्रातः ॥८॥_
कौन तुम्हारी पत्नी है, कौन तुम्हारा पुत्र है, ये संसार अत्यंत विचित्र है,
तुम कौन हो, कहाँ से आये हो, बन्धु ! इस बात पर तो पहले विचार कर
लो॥८॥
Who is your wife? Who is your son? Supremely wonderful

is saṁsāra, the circle of birth and death. Of whom are
you? From where have you come? Brother, ponder over
these concepts.
_सत्संगत्वे निस्संगत्वं, निस्संगत्वे निर्मोहत्वं।_

_निर्मोहत्वे निश्चलतत्त्वं निश्चलतत्त्वे जीवन्मुक्तिः ॥९॥_
सत्संग से वैराग्य, वैराग्य से विवेक, विवेक से स्थिर तत्त्वज्ञान और

तत्त्वज्ञान से मोक्ष की प्राप्ति होती है॥९॥
Being in the company of good people (saints) gives rise to

non-attachment; from non-attachment comes freedom
from delusion, which leads to awareness of reality;
understanding of reality gives rise to emancipation leading
to the liberation of the soul (jīvan-mukti), while still alive.
_वयसि गते कः कामविकारः , शुष्के नीरे कः कासारः ।_

_क्षीणे वित्ते कः परिवारः , ज्ञाते तत्त्वे कः संसारः ॥१०॥_
आयु बीत जाने के बाद काम भाव नहीं रहता, पानी सूख जाने पर
तालाब नहीं रहता, धन चले जाने पर परिवार नहीं रहता और तत्त्व ज्ञान
होने के बाद संसार नहीं रहता॥१०॥
What good is lust when youth has fled? What use is a lake
which has no water? Where are the relatives when wealth
is gone? What is saṁsāra (transmigratory process), when
Truth is known?
_मा कु रु धनजनयौवनगर्वं, हरति निमेषात्कालः सर्वं।_

_मायामयमिदमखिलम् हित्वा, ब्रह्मपदम् त्वं प्रविश विदित्वा॥११॥_
धन, शक्ति और यौवन पर गर्व मत करो, समय क्षण भर में इनको नष्ट
कर देता है| इस विश्व को माया से घिरा हुआ जान कर तुम ब्रह्म पद में
प्रवेश करो॥११॥
Do not take pride in wealth, friends and youth. Each one of

these is destroyed within an instant by Time. Free yourself
from the illusion of the world of māyā and attain the realm
of brahman, timeless truth.
_दिनयामिन्यौ सायं प्रातः , शिशिरवसन्तौ पुनरायातः ।_

_कालः क्रीडति गच्छत्यायुस्तदपि न मुन्च्त्याशावायुः ॥१२॥_
दिन और रात, शाम और सुबह, सर्दी और बसंत बार-बार आते-जाते

रहते है काल की इस क्रीडा के साथ जीवन नष्ट होता रहता है पर
इच्छाओ का अंत कभी नहींहोता है॥१२॥
Day and night, evening and morning, winter and summer

come and go again and again. Eternal time plays and life
ebbs away, yet one does not let go of the storm of desire.
_द्वादशमंजरिकाभिरशेषः कथितो वैयाकरणस्यैषः ।_

_उपदेशोऽभूद्विद्यानिपुणैः , श्रीमच्छं करभगवच्चरणैः ॥१२अ॥_
बारह गीतों का ये पुष्पहार, सर्वज्ञ प्रभुपाद श्री शंकराचार्य द्वारा एक

वैयाकरण को प्रदान किया गया॥१२अ॥
The bouquet of twelve verses was imparted to a

grammarian by the all-knowing Śaṅkara, adored as
bhagavat-pāda.
_काते कान्ता धन गतचिन्ता, वातुल किं तव नास्ति नियन्ता।_

_त्रिजगति सज्जनसं गतिरै का, भवति भवार्णवतरणे नौका॥१३॥_
तुम्हें पत्नी और धन की इतनी चिंता क्यों है, क्या उनका कोई नियंत्रक
नहीं है| तीनों लोकों में के वल सज्जनों का साथ ही इस भवसागर से पार
जाने की नौका है॥१३॥
O, mad man! Why this engrossment in thoughts of wealth

and beloved? Is there no one to guide you? In these three
worlds, only the association with saintly people (satsaṅga)
can serve as the boat that can steer cross the ocean of
repeated birth and death. (Stanza attributed to
Padmapāda.)
_जटिलो मुण्डी लुञ्छितके शः , काषायाम्बरबहुकृ तवेषः ।_

_पश्यन्नपि च न पश्यति मूढः , उदरनिमित्तं बहुकृ तवेषः ॥१४॥_
बड़ी जटाएं , के श रहित सिर, बिखरे बाल , काषाय (भगवा) वस्त्र और

भांति भांति के वेश ये सब अपना पेट भरने के लिए ही धारण किये जाते
हैं, अरे मोहित मनुष्य तुम इसको देख कर भी क्यों नहीं देख पाते हो॥
१४॥
There are many (ascetics) with matted hair, many with

clean shaven heads, many whose hair have been plucked
out; some are clothed in orange, yet others parading in

various colors - Indeed, these different disguises or
apparels are only for their belly’s sake. Seeing the truth
revealed before them, still the foolish ones can not see
through these many disguises. (Stanza attributed to
Totakācārya.)
_अङ्गं गलितं पलितं मुण्डं, दशनविहीनं जतं तुण्डम्।_

_वृद्धो याति गृहीत्वा दण्डं, तदपि न मुञ्चत्याशापिण्डम्॥१५॥_
क्षीण अंगों, पके हुए बालों, दांतों से रहित मुख और हाथ में दंड लेकर
चलने वाला वृद्ध भी आशा-पाश से बंधा रहता है॥१५॥
Strength has left the old man's body; his head has become
bald, his gums toothless and leaning on crutches. Even
then he can not let go of his attachment, clinging firmly to
fruitless hopes and desires. (Stanza attributed to
Hastamalaka.)
_अग्रे वह्निः पृष्ठेभानुः , रात्रौ चुबुकसमर्पितजानुः ।_

_करतलभिक्षस्तरुतलवासः , तदपि न मुञ्चत्याशापाशः ॥१६॥_
सूर्यास्त के बाद, रात्रि में आग जला कर और घुटनों में सर छिपाकर

सर्दी बचाने वाला, हाथ में भिक्षा का अन्न खाने वाला, पेड़ के नीचे रहने
वाला भी अपनी इच्छाओं के बंधन को छोड़ नहीं पाता है॥१६॥
The ascetic warms his body with fire in front and the sun at
the back. At night he dwells under a tree with face huddled
between the knees to keep out of the cold. In his hands he
holds the beggar's alms and yet he does not let go of the
noose of attachment to desire and passion. (Stanza
attributed to Subhodha.)
_कु रुते गङ्गासागरगमनं, व्रतपरिपालनमथवा दानम्।_

_ज्ञानविहिनः सर्वमतेन, मुक्तिं न भजति जन्मशतेन॥१७॥_
किसी भी धर्म के अनुसार ज्ञान रहित रह कर गंगासागर जाने से, व्रत

रखने से और दान देने से सौ जन्मों में भी मुक्ति नहीं प्राप्त हो सकती
है॥१७॥
One may travel (on a pilgrimage) to the confluence where

the Gaṅgā river meets the ocean (gaṅgā-sāgara),
undertake vows and give away in charity, however without
true knowledge (jñāna) one will not achieve liberation
(mukti) even in a hundred lifetimes, according to all
[schools of] thought. (Stanza attributed to Vārtikakāra.)
_सुर मंदिर तरु मूल निवासः , शय्या भूतल मजिनं वासः ।_

_सर्व परिग्रह भोग त्यागः , कस्य सुखं न करोति विरागः ॥१८॥_
देव मंदिर या पेड़ के नीचे निवास, पृथ्वी जैसी शय्या, अके ले ही रहने
वाले, सभी संग्रहों और सुखों का त्याग करने वाले वैराग्य से किसको
आनंद की प्राप्ति नहीं होगी॥१८॥
One who lives in temples or dwells at the foot of trees,

whose bed is the surface of the earth, whose garment is a
deer-skin, who has thus renounced all enjoyment of
worldly possessions - to whom will such dispassion
(vairāgya) not bring happiness? (Stanza attributed to
Nityānanda.)
_योगरतो वाभोगरतोवा, सङ्गरतो वा सङ्गवीहिनः ।_

_यस्य ब्रह्मणि रमते चित्तं, नन्दति नन्दति नन्दत्येव॥१९॥_
कोई योग में लगा हो या भोग में, संग में आसक्त हो या निसंग हो, पर
जिसका मन ब्रह्म में लगा है वो ही आनंद करता है, आनंद ही करता
है॥१९॥
One may take delight in yoga or bhoga; may be delighted

by company or solitude; but he whose mind delights in
brahman (the spiritual truth), only he enjoys real bliss and
is satisfied, no one else. (Stanza attributed to ānandagiriḥ)
_भगवद् गीता किञ्चिदधीता, गङ्गा जललव कणिकापीता।_

_सकृ दपि येन मुरारि समर्चा, क्रियते तस्य यमेन न चर्चा॥२०॥_
जिन्होंने भगवदगीता का थोडा सा भी अध्ययन किया है, भक्ति रूपी

गंगा जल का कण भर भी पिया है, भगवान कृ ष्ण की एक बार भी
समुचित प्रकार से पूजा की है, यम के द्वारा उनकी चर्चा नहीं की जाती
है॥२०॥
Let a man read but a little from Bhagavad-gītā, drink just a

drop of Gaṅgā-water, worship but once murāri, the enemy
of 'Murā' (Lord Kṛṣṇa); he then will have no confrontation
with Yama, the Lord of death. (Stanza attributed to
Dṛḍhabhakta.)
_पुनरपि जननं पुनरपि मरणं, पुनरपि जननी जठरे शयनम्।_

_इह संसारे बहुदुस्तारे , कृ पयाऽपारे पाहि मुरारे ॥२१॥_
बार-बार जन्म, बार-बार मृत्यु, बार-बार माँ के गर्भ में शयन, इस संसार
से पार जा पाना बहुत कठिन है, हे कृ ष्ण कृ पा करके मेरी इससे रक्षा
करें ॥२१॥
Birth again, death again, again resting in the mother's

womb! It is indeed hard to cross this boundless ocean of
saṁsāra (cycle of repeated birth and death). O Murāri! by

your causeless mercy please protect me (from this
transmigratory process). (Stanza attributed to Nityanātha.)
_रथ्या चर्पट विरचित कन्थः , पुण्यापुण्य विवर्जित पन्थः ।_

_योगी योगनियोजित चित्तो, रमते बालोन्मत्तवदेव॥२२॥_
रथ के नीचे आने से फटे हुए कपडे पहनने वाले, पुण्य और पाप से

रहित पथ पर चलने वाले, योग में अपने चित्त को लगाने वाले योगी,
बालक के समान आनंद में रहते हैं॥२२॥
The one whose patched garment is made from tattered

rags cast on the road, whose path is free from sins having
abandoned virtue and vices, whose mind is fixed on yoga
(in union with god), that yogi indeed rejoices (in divine
bliss) like a crazed wild child overwhelmed by happiness.
(Stanza attributed to Nityanātha.)
_कस्त्वं कोऽहं कु त आयातः , का मे जननी को मे तातः ।_

_इति परिभावय सर्वमसारम्, विश्वं त्यक्त्वा स्वप्न विचारम्॥२३॥_
तुम कौन हो, मैं कौन हूँ, कहाँ से आया हूँ, मेरी माँ कौन है, मेरा पिता
कौन है? सब प्रकार से इस विश्व को असार समझ कर इसको एक स्वप्न
के समान त्याग दो॥२३॥
Having abandoned this world, knowing it to be without

essence, comparable to the reflection of a dream, consider
well and reflect: Who am I? Who are you? Where have I
come from? Who is my mother, and who is my father?
(Stanza attributed to Surendra.)
_त्वयि मयि चान्यत्रैको विष्णुः , व्यर्थं कु प्यसि मय्यसहिष्णुः ।_

_भव समचित्तः सर्वत्र त्वं, वाञ्छस्यचिराद्यदि विष्णुत्वम्॥२४॥_
तुममें, मुझमें और अन्यत्र भी सर्वव्यापक विष्णु ही हैं, तुम व्यर्थ ही क्रोध

करते हो, यदि तुम शाश्वत विष्णु पद को प्राप्त करना चाहते हो तो सर्वत्र
समान चित्त वाले हो जाओ॥२४॥
In me, in you and in everything else, none but the same

(All-Pervading) Lord Viṣṇu dwells. Your anger and
impatience is meaningless. If you wish to attain the
Supreme Viṣṇu soon, be equal-minded in all
circumstances, have samabhāva, equanimity, always.
(Stanza attributed to Medhātithira.)
_शत्रौ मित्रे पुत्रे बन्धौ, मा कु रु यत्नं विग्रहसन्धौ।_

_सर्वस्मिन्नपि पश्यात्मानं, सर्वत्रोत्सृज भेदाज्ञानम्॥२५॥_
शत्रु, मित्र, पुत्र, बन्धु-बांधवों से प्रेम और द्वेष मत करो, सबमें अपने

आप को ही देखो, इस प्रकार सर्वत्र ही भेद रूपी अज्ञान को त्याग दो॥
२५॥
Do not waste your efforts to win the love of or to fight

against friend and foe, children and relatives. See the true
self in everyone and give up all feelings of duality
completely. (Stanza attributed to Medhātithira.)
_कामं क्रोधं लोभं मोहं, त्यक्त्वाऽत्मानं भावय कोऽहम्।_

_आत्मज्ञान विहीना मूढाः , ते पच्यन्ते नरकनिगूढाः ॥२६॥_
काम, क्रोध, लोभ, मोह को छोड़ कर, स्वयं में स्थित होकर विचार करो
कि मैं कौन हूँ, जो आत्म- ज्ञान से रहित मोहित व्यक्ति हैं वो बार-बार
छिपे हुए इस संसार रूपी नरक में पड़ते हैं॥२६॥
Give up lust, anger, greed and infatuation, try to know the

true self and consider: who am I? Those fools covered by
ignorance, who lack self-knowledge (ātma-jñāna) are
tormented in hells. (Stanza attributed to Bhārativaṁśa.)
_गेयं गीता नाम सहस्रं, ध्येयं श्रीपति रूपमजस्रम्।_

_नेयं सज्जन सङ्गे चित्तं, देयं दीनजनाय च वित्तम्॥२७॥_
भगवान विष्णु के सहस्त्र नामों को गाते हुए उनके सुन्दर रूप का

अनवरत ध्यान करो, सज्जनों के संग में अपने मन को लगाओ और
गरीबों की अपने धन से सेवा करो॥२७॥
Regularly recite from the Gītā, meditate on Viṣṇu (śrīpati)

in your heart, and chant his thousand glories names
(viṣṇu-sahasranāma). Take delight to be with the noble
and the holy. Distribute your wealth in charity to the poor
and the needy. (Stanza attributed to Sumatir.)
_सुखतः क्रियते रामाभोगः , पश्चाद्धन्त शरीरे रोगः ।_

_यद्यपि लोके मरणं शरणं, तदपि न मुञ्चति पापाचरणम्॥२८॥_
सुख के लिए लोग आनंद-भोग करते हैं जिसके बाद इस शरीर में रोग
हो जाते हैं। यद्यपि इस पृथ्वी पर सबका मरण सुनिश्चित है फिर भी लोग
पापमय आचरण को नहीं छोड़ते हैं॥२८॥
Very readily one indulges in carnal pleasures but later on,

alas, come diseases of the body. Even though in the world
the ultimate end is death (maraṇaṁ), even then one does
not relinquish his sinful behaviours.
_अर्थंमनर्थम् भावय नित्यं, नास्ति ततः सुखलेशः सत्यम्।_

_पुत्रादपि धनभजाम् भीतिः , सर्वत्रैषा विहिता रीतिः ॥२९॥_
धन अकल्याणकारी है और इससे जरा सा भी सुख नहीं मिल सकता है,

ऐसा विचार प्रतिदिन करना चाहिए | धनवान व्यक्ति तो अपने पुत्रों से
भी डरते हैं ऐसा सबको पता ही है॥२९॥
Remember always that wealth is the source of misfortune.

The truth is that one cannot extract even a bit of happiness
from it. For the rich, there is fear even from one’s own son.
This is the established way with wealth everywhere.
_प्राणायामं प्रत्याहारं , नित्यानित्य विवेकविचारम्।_

_जाप्यसमेत समाधिविधानं, कु र्ववधानं महदवधानम्॥३०॥_
प्राणायाम, उचित आहार, नित्य इस संसार की अनित्यता का विवेक

पूर्वक विचार करो, प्रेम से प्रभु-नाम का जाप करते हुए समाधि में ध्यान
दो, बहुत ध्यान दो॥३०॥
Practice control of breath (prāṇā-yāma) and withdrawal of

the senses from their respective sense objects
(pratyāhāra); deliberate on the distinction between the
permanent and the transitory; perform meditation along
with chanting the holy names of god; perform these with
great attention and extreme care!
_गुरुचरणाम्बुज निर्भर भक्तः , संसारादचिराद्भव मुक्तः ।_

_सेन्द्रियमानस नियमादेवं, द्रक्ष्यसि निज हृदयस्थं देवम्॥३१॥_
गुरु के चरण कमलों का ही आश्रय मानने वाले भक्त बनकर सदैव के

लिए इस संसार में आवागमन से मुक्त हो जाओ, इस प्रकार मन एवं
इन्द्रियों का निग्रह कर अपने हृदय में विराजमान प्रभु के दर्शन करो॥
३१॥
Oh devotee sincerely dedicated to the lotus feet of the

Guru! May thou be soon free from Saṁsārā, the circle of
birth and death. Through disciplined senses and controlled
mind, thou shalt come to see (experience) the in-dwelling
Lord of your heart!
_मूढः कश्चन वैयाकरणो, डु कृ ञ्करणाध्ययन धुरिणः ।_

_श्रीमच्छम्कर भगवच्छिष्यै, बोधित आसिच्छोधितकरणः ॥३२॥_
इस प्रकार व्याकरण के नियमों को कं ठस्थ करते हुए किसी मोहित

वैयाकरण के माध्यम से बुद्धिमान श्री भगवान शंकर के शिष्य बोध
प्राप्त करने के लिए प्रेरित किये गए॥३२॥
Thus a foolish grammarian lost in grammatical rules, was

cleansed of his narrow vision and shown the light by the
students of the illustrious Śrīmad Śaṅkarācārya.
_भजगोविन्दं भजगोविन्दं, गोविन्दं भजमूढमते।_

_नामस्मरणादन्यमुपायं, नहि पश्यामो भवतरणे॥३३॥_
गोविंद को भजो, गोविन्द का नाम लो, गोविन्द से प्रेम करो क्योंकि

भगवान के नाम जप के अतिरिक्त इस भव-सागर से पार जाने का अन्य
कोई मार्ग नहीं है॥३३॥
Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, O

fool! Other than chanting the Lord's names, there is no
other way to cross the ocean of existence.
Yours Servant 🙏🙏
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Why is the literal genealogy not given in scriptures, from

the beginning until today?
• Because that would distract us from being in the present

& not allow us to do our activities.
We have limited time of 100 years, 50 years of daylight, 25

years of occupation & more less time for ourselves. How
much can we study in this limited scope?
• And what is the use of re-studying the experience of

others, while our purpose is to actually experience our own
individual life.
• Just within this Kali Yuga 5000 years have passed, and
different things occurred in different time zones to different
people. How much of their inputs can we grasp at all, and
is it really worth it to bother on other that much?
• it's better to focus on our individual tradition/ local

Parampara/ sva - dharma, follow varnashrama & go into
moksha.
Why is there no evidence for God on the planet?
• Because Kaliyuga is a opportunity for us to forget god

and focus elsewhere.
• Our forgetfulness doesn't equate to absence of other

realities, it's just our individual negligence.
• Brainstormer: scientists are exploring possibilities that we

we might be in a simulated reality. They even argue that
we cannot really know weather we are in a simulation or
not, unless that input is fed into our head by the
simulators. Even Elon Musk speaks out about it, kindly
check.
Why age of electronics/ technology is not given in the

scriptures?
• Because we wanted to reject the authority of someone

superior (the provider), and we wanted to stay
independent (do our things ourselves). And material world
is present to facilitate that very desire of misdirected souls.
• We wanted to do our things separately. We want credits
for ourselves, without that we cannot experience of feeling
to be the master / owner/ creater of things which are in our
credit.
Did we make computers?
• Yes we made it, at a individual level. Actually No, we

didn't create it's elements.
• We just did a arrangement of the electromagnetic force,

which already existed in the world around us.
• We didn't gave the semiconductor effect to the metals

used in computers. Nor can we explain the reason why
certain conductors behave in dual way, giving presence to
semiconductor, without which computers would be
impossible.
• So what we actually did is just discovered the possibility

of certain innovation, out of the curious tendency inside us.
• (Just as Brahma is just the secondary creator of the
Cosmos, not the source of primary raw ingredients.
Brahma is also here in bhav sagar due to tendency to play
god/ creator, we're also mimicking that as a individual
level, by creating virtual worlds in AI simulation)
Why does curiosity exist inside us?
• Because we are always in search for something. Search

for variety/ discovery/ friend etc. We do it in pursuit of
finding happiness.
• If everything was pre given to us, then life would have

been boring, there would have been no scope of joy of
discovery.
• we are in search of joy, and the world is here to facilitate

it. (Why does the world provide us exactly what we need,
is it obliged for doing it? How does it know what we
require? Why is it not random due to chance? Why this
correlation exists?)
(If you say natural selection - Does natural selection also

alter our body mechanism asper outer environment - then
why does death & ageing exist, why aren't we immortal?)
Why pralaya exists?
• There are many Demigods. Each of them is a soul

occupying the post of that Demigod.
• pralaya or shuffle, is just a arrangement to facilitate

different souls to experience the joy of seeing things from
different positions/ perspective.
• one soul occupies this position during this kalpa/ yuga,

and then the next soul gets to experience dominion over
the position in next yuga/ kalpa.
• similarly, the munis (or modern day innovators/

scientists), they get to speculate and create their own
school of thought, from what they observe in world around
them. They do it from scratch from each time the refresh
button is pressed (each time destruction happens)
• everything is tuned in a way to facilitate happiness of

different kinds to us. Provided we do it in a dharmik way,
not in a asuri pravrutti.
God is the source of technology/ innovation:
• Birds fly, aquatics swim, animals fight etc. Whatever we

have made through discoveries is nothing but a small
scale replica of what we see in world around us.
• If these things we're present in world around us, these

ideas for innovation wouldn't have every registered in our
mind, and we couldn't have ever attempted to do anything
such.
• Animals act purely out of impulses, these impulses are

intrinsic to their species, all species are coming from
Brahma, Brahma was ordered to do creation by Hari.
Brahma was facilitated & protected. So the real credits
goes to the original cause.
• And also, all the ingredients by which we build things, is

not created by us, it was already present in world around
us.
• And the most relevant fact is that nothing belongs to us

because we didn't create it out of ourselves & we aren't it's
controllers. We just happened to be the users at a
particular instance.
• isa vasayam idam sarvam - everything belongs to Hari.
• It doesn't matter weather you believe in Hari or not, just

the fact that nothing belongs to us is enough reason for us
to not interfere with things around us, which is not ours.
That's basic morality or etiquette.
• To claim proprietorship over something not belonging to

us is a sin, it deserves the attention of law enforcement.
Various types of disasters/ calamities/ disease/ accident is
a deserving resulting reaction for this greed, isn't it?
We are fine tuned to hanker & search for pleasure. Can

modern science change that wiring? No it can't.
• And actually, the whole science is doing nothing except

chasing this tendency of unrestricted sense gratification,
rather than questioning and endeavouring to rewire this
tendency. It's not their fault, it's just that they're helpless,
we can't get rid of it by ourselves, we need a higher level
support for it.
• That's why we need Spirituality.
https://youtube.com/c/sanatansamiksha
https://youtube.com/c/SANATANREVEALS
https://youtube.com/c/YugandharHinduRationalism
https://youtube.com/channel/
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Thoughts on nihilism:
• Should I kill myself, or have a cup of coffee? But in the
end one needs more courage to live than to kill himself. -
Albert Camus (nihilist)
• Life is meaningless, but worth living, provided you
recognize it's meaningless. Albert Camus.
• The realization that life is absurd cannot be an end, but
only a beginning. Albert Camus.
• The only serious question in life is whether to kill yourself
or not. Albert Camus.
• I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to
find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to
find out that there is. Albert Camus.
• as life is meaningless, and staying under the slavery of

uncontrolled mind is painful, and there's nothing worth
lamenting over the loss of few chemical fluids
(components of human body/ animal body/ goat chicken/
buffalo/ fish/ cock etc), so what's the point in living this
painful existence, why not simply quit? Anyways it doesn't
make any difference from a nihilist worldview, or does it?
• Does their ideology & their lifestyle match with each
other? No, they are still chasing the Mirage in the material
world. They're just hypocrites.
• if everything is random, meaningless, inconsequential,
there's there's no point in chasing temporary pleasures.
• no soul & no afterlife & no hell, this belief facilitates us to

do sin without guilt, like no other worldview. not even
Islam. Islam at least fears god while doing sin, while these
people have no reason to not exploit others.
(For example: do the doctors who steal organs of patients
have any guilt while doing the robbery, Do they steal for
religious cause or selfish cause? Did the communists had
any reason to feel guilty when they released the corona
virus?)
KC philosophy & lifestyle is joyful even this very birth/ life.

• Even if you say this happiness is just a placebo - still i
would say that there's nothing else in the world that could
produce better placebo effect than this.
• Even from a empirical perspective, this lifestyle is most
ecstatic & eco-friendly. You lose nothing except mental
problems like depression n dejection.
• we lose nothing in this process, we do chanting feasting
dancing all day. And we also don't participate in the rat
race civilization to die a life of tension n corruption n
disease.
• psychology agrees that healthy association is most
conducive for mental health. There's nothing more better
than the association of devotees, who are always eager to
render service to each other.
Regarding evidence for soul:

That Jain movie link in sent has enough data, for you to
research upon by yourself.
Does a skeleton decompose?

• If animals do not destroy or move the bones, skeletons
normally take around 20 years to dissolve in fertile soil.
• However, in sand or neutral soil, skeletons can remain
intact for hundreds of years.
• in Bharat, we would do antim sanskar, they burn the
bodies. They don't bury the body as the outcasts do.
• and still, there are lots of human fossils found, which was
purposefully kept hidden by evolutionary propagandists.
There's a lots of research done on this, you can go check
it yourself.
Some thoughts on indus civilization theory:

- since 17 century, the Britishers were planning & plotting
measures to destroy vedic culture & convert Indians into
their faith.
- Britishers claimed the discovery of Harappan civilization
in 19th century. (It's strange that neither Indians kings nor
Mughal kings never attempted to conquer or destroy or
make mosque over there before this time.)
- they also claimed that Aryans came and destroyed it,
because they were more powerful. Aryan theory a
debunked already.
- why there are no temples found? we found pashupati

sculpture from Indus, is enough.
- in Indus, if there was gold, then Britishers would have
stolen it. If there were Indian deities, they would have
removed it, and to prove their own theory they would have
brought artifacts from Egypt & kept here - like unicorn

images etc.
- even Mughal signs aren't found over there, which was
supposed to be found - because Mughals would have had
made mosque or some Qur'an carvings over there as a
sign of their dominance. Maybe that was also hidden by
the Britishers, or else it would have disturbed their
propaganda.
- sanskrit was a spoken subject, not written one. The Pali

texts on stones may also be a recent propaganda, who
knows who kept it there.
- Pali words sound like totla/lisp people trying to speak
sanskrit. Dharma as dhamma, Sindhu as sintu etc. It's
doesn't require rocket science mastery to understand
which came from what.
- it's strange that the overall human population was living
only in 4 tribal civilizations & the whole planet was empty.
(Just as in movies, aliens only see American on this whole
planet. That's how story plot is made by director.)
- the indus looks more like a community of outcasts like
chandal, who were kept away from society.
- the dating of indus civilization is a debatable topic, many
people have different dates for it.
- if Dalits can burn manusmriti in public, what all could they
have destroyed in background, only idiots will trust such
rascals. Britishers also are similar propagandists, who
steal things from other countries and don't give them the
due credit, who were contaminated & spread all sorts of
diseases in whichever place they go.
Mathematics perspective:
- whatever innovation Britishers made was coming from

Bharat: gun powder was stolen from us, mathematics &
philosophical concepts also learnt from us.
- We were busy in war with Mughals, that's why they took
all the credits from the background.
- But anyways, time keeps changing. Germany
overpowered England. Then USA had overpowered
Europe. Now china is ahead of USA.
- Now we've reached limits of computers, transistors have
reached size of the atom. And climate is changing &
becoming poisoned. We have more important battles to
fight in the present.
From evolution perspective:

• Humans existed for lakhs of years,
• and today we can see all the technological developments
happened within 3000 years of focus on mathematics.
• It's sounds illogical to think that Indus residents/ Egypt
residents/ ancient tribes couldn't have had made
technological advancements.
• within this millions years of human existence, it looks
totally reasonable that previously existing humans should
have had much better technology, on the strength of
mathematical innovation. Which was probably destroyed
due to war/ floods/ pralaya etc.
• But it makes no sense that this is the first industrial
revolution/ internet revolution in the entire human history of
millions of years.
• It also makes no sense that there is no conscious life
outside our planet, the fact that nasa found nanobacteria
on Mars is enough evidence to prove that conscious
beings should exist outside our planet too.

On evolution: You have not studied all over the world. Has
Darwin studied all the continents on this planet? Has he
gone down into the depths of the seas and there
excavated all the layers of the earth? No. So his
knowledge is imperfect.
This is the relative world, and here everyone speaks with
relative knowledge. Therefore we should accept
knowledge from a person who is not within this relativity.
Stats from the book - 100 years of nobel prizes:

• The total number of Nobel Prize winners between 1901
and 2000 has been 719.
• A review of the Nobel awards between 1901 and 2000
reveals that 654 Laureates belong to 28 different religions.
• Atheists, agnostics, and freethinkers comprise 10.5% of
total Nobel Prize winners.
* (All foundational discoveries & innovations were made by
the theists. And the atheist scientists of 21st century have
done zero development into the subject further, except

being cocky in the frontline)
Erwin Schrodinger: ‘I am very astonished that the scientific

picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It
gives a lot of factual information, puts all our experience in
a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent
about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that
really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and
blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it
knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and
eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions
in these domains, but the answers are very often so silly
that we are not inclined to take them seriously.’
Johannes Kepler: I believe Divine Providence arranged matters in such a way that what I could not obtain with all my efforts was
given to me through chance; I believe all the more that this is so as I have always prayed to God that he should make my plan
succeed, if what Copernicus had said was the truth.

Vishnu is is Triyugi, he doesn't reveal himself in Kaliyuga.
• No Problem Can Be Solved From The Same Level Of

Consciousness That Created It - Albert Einstein
• Errors occur when we take things in out of it's context, do
speculation, without inquiring doubts from higher
authorities.
• Humility means to acknowledge the complexity of reality.
- Sudarshan Pillay (me)
Can Paramatma give us revelation from within?

• Whatever we dream or imagine, that's nothing but a
permutation/ combination of the inputs that are received by
brain through the senses from the world around us.
• We cannot conceive anything that doesn't exist /or
anything outside of our perception (inexistent in our
perception)
• Whatever hankerings/ desires pop-up from inside of us,
are nothing but resurfacing of our accumulated
impressions from many past activities & experiences.
• whatever inputs we get from apart of our mind & senses
& outer world, it points out to supernatural factors for the
origin of those inputs.
• Hallucinations are just the past memories being
remembered in a painful & defective & meaningless way.
(Hallucinations can't explain how could something sublime
& structured & meaningful be achieved, despite any
immediate source nearby)
Is the world really a place of meaninglessness & suffering

& evil? No. Not at all.
• Old age is a rare opportunity on this planet. Svarga loka
& other places don't have old age or childhood or death,
they are always young.
• The reason why ageing is present on this planet, is to
facilitate us to become detached from family life and
accept vanaprastha, and focus on our vertical multi-life
journey, within the varnashrama pathway.
• Old age is not the problem, weakness & diseases are.
Old people can also stay healthy with good immunity,
provided that they live a regulated disciplined lifestyle, free
from all anarthas.
• vanaprastha/ Sannyasa is not prescribed for kali Yuga,
because everyone is shudra & slow & lazy & short sighted
& greedy & envious. Yet, there are some exceptions, the
really serious Brahmans & Kshatriyas can accept
renunciation.
Heart regeneration/ replacement/ artificial heart:

• Heart is the seat of the soul, not the cage where soul is
locked. There is gross body & there is a subtle body, and
soul operates the gross body via subtle body.
• In heart transplant only the gross matter of heart is
replaced, the subtle body & heart - with all our karma/
iccha accumulation is present with us.
• We cannot perceive subtle body/ heart with material
equipment, forget about interfering with it.
• Cell regeneration rate of heart is 3 years, so does that
mean every 3 years our soul in body changes? No, even
the subtle body is unmoved, forget speculating anything
about the inconceivable soul.
• regarding subtle body; ask yourself:

- does mind really exist?
- where is mind located in your body?
- Can we perceive our mind?
- If you can't perceive mind, what is the rational for saying
it to be scientific?
- Doesn't it become unscientific, because it's inconceivable
to our senses & lab instruments?
- Will our mind keep existing even if our brain is damaged?
- Do all the research you could do, also check about -
'Phantom limbs'
Does svarga loka exist? Why don't we see it? NASA moon
landings inconsistent with vedic conception of moon?
• let’s understand the concept of a higher dimensional
object being projected to a lower dimension. A three-
dimensional office address (given by avenue, street and
floor) can have a two-dimensional projection (given by
avenue and street).
• Similarly, the higher-dimensional Chandraloka can have
a 3 dimensional projection, the moon visible to us with the
naked eye. No matter how hi-tech our spacecrafts, they
cannot take us beyond the three-dimensional reality that
our sensory apparatus limits us to.
• The astronauts may have been subjected to a hi-tech
diversion by the demigods. Consequently, they imagined
they had landed on the moon, but had been grounded on
some other relatively (relative to Chandraloka) lower
planet like Rahu, which is ordinarily invisible to us due to
its existing in a dimension higher than ours.
• Trishanku was kicked out by Indra, when he was trying to
enter heaven with a human body. Therefore Vishwamitra
had to then create a seperate place for Trishanku by his

Yoga Bala.
Varnashrama Dharma:
• Brahman are compared to head, Kshatriya as arms,
vaishaya as leg & shudra as feet.
• Without Brahman it would become a headless society,
with no orientation where it is leading.
• There is expected to be a cooperation between all the
classes of men, for maintaining harmony and prosperity for
each other within the community.
• This mechanism/ system is always existing in human
society, forever, as long as humans exist.
(This is horizontal sanatan dharma. Below is vertical
sanatan dharma.
We are expected to keep a balance between both our
material life & spiritual life.)
Sanatana Dharma: Our intrinsic propensity/ character/

dharma, which is changeless & is remains innate to us
under all circumstances.
• Your service spirit is there, your loving spirit is there, but
because it is misplaced you are not happy, you are
frustrated, you are confused.
• Either you change your faith or don't change your faith,
your character is still to serve, will continue. That is the
reality.
• Therefore I have got my service spirit, and I have to
serve somebody. That is my natural characteristic. You
cannot deny it. (Either we serve God or we serve our
uncontrolled mind & senses)
• Devotional service is always dormant in everyone's

heart, and by the offenseless chanting of the holy names
of the Lord, one's original dormant Kṛṣṇa consciousness is
awakened.
The complete arrangement by the supreme complete:

• Somebody accept there is God. Somebody does not
accept. So, there are two causes. The basic principle is
that God is there, so you either accept or reject Him. One
is doubtful or one is convinced. God is there.
One is doubtful, he says "There is no God." My question is
why the question of God is there? Why do they say there
is no God? what is the conception of God?
• Dull matter. It has no necessity. It is dull matter. And as
soon as you have got life, there is necessity. Without
feeling necessity means dullness. Insentient matter.
• Presence of necessity means that it's fulfilment also
exists. Otherwise you won't feel necessity for something
that doesn't exist anywhere.
• Just like when you're hungry you require food. Food is
there.
• The eyes want to see; therefore the object of seeing is
there.
• The hand wants to touch, so the object of touching is
there.
• The nose wants to smell: the object of smell is there.
• The necessity of light, the sun is there.
• Feeling the necessity of parent, the parents are there.
• So as soon as you feel necessity, the thing is there.
• Similarly, if you feel necessity of God, then God is there.
In a nutshell:
• We obviously know that life exists here because we exist
here. But modern, reductionistic science claims that life is
a result of chemical combination, but it cannot
demonstrate or explain how life arises from chemicals.
• Not only can reductionistic science not explain how life
arises, it also cannot explain why life arises. It offers no
explanation about what the purpose of our existence is or
what the values guiding our existence should be.
• The principle of humility is vital in approaching the
magnificent works of God like the cosmos. We cannot
expect to conquer the cosmos with our intellect and
dominate it for our ends. Such an attitude implies that we
are trying to become all-knowing and usurp God.
O scion of Bharata [Arjuna], O conquerer of the foe, all

living entities are born into delusion, overcome by the
dualities of desire and hate. [BG 7.27]
One who can control his senses by practicing the

regulated principles of freedom can obtain the complete
mercy of the Lord and thus become free from all
attachment and aversion. [BG 2.64]
The Surya Siddhanta states:

• The distance between the earth and the moon as
253,000 miles, compared to modern measurements of
252,710 miles.
• The Earth’s diameter is 7,840 miles, compared to the
modern measurements of 7,926.7 miles.

* If there are any more questions please let me know, we
will sort it out together.
* And thank you a lot for helping me think why we do what
we do.
Please accept my humble obeisances.

YS 🙏🙏

On existence of God:
It's already established that there is someone in control.
• Even if you consider scriptures to be a man made thing,
you should still read it for expanding your mindset & for
being prayerful - if not by accepting it to be a revelation
from above, then at least while treating it as our individual
prayer from below. (If God allowed such books to exist, he
would agree to fulfill our prayers, which are guided by it)
• As it's clearly evident that the writers of ancient scriptures

were far more advanced than today's fiction writers,
because all discoveries today were possible only because
of muni's teachings, & our imagination seems to be like
tiny dwarfs in comparison to the works of ancient giants,
therefore it's a better option to study those scriptures
rather than being exposed to today's postmodern movies
& novels.
• Superior with respect to: sattvik morality, social
administration, buisness lessons, worker class loyalty,
warfare etiquette, greeting relatives & friends, arts,
medicine, technology, engineering etc.
• This satvik lifestyle is healthier than a living a
unregulated materialistic life, both for you and the society
around you.
• relevant quote: "We Owe a lot to the Indians, who taught
us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific
discovery could have been made!" – Albert Einstein
• There are only two ways to live your life. One is as
though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though
everything is a miracle. – Albert Einstein
On authenticity of Brahmanas:
Are scriptures just a propaganda by Brahmans to earn
donations?
• We see that they are very much detached, they even
give up family life & comforts by taking vanaprastha. They
live a full minimalist life away from their children & relatives
& gross enjoyment. And no, they aren't living in any
deprivation, they're fully contented within their meditation
and sadhana.
Are they getting anything from the shudras/ outcastes/
anybody else, amid this act?
• There are many scriptural injunctions mentioning that

Brahmans would get bad karma & suffering, if they don't
work for the elevation of their disciples proportionally & if
they become lazy instead. We have practical examples
confirming this.
• and why would Brahmans spoil their own image, by
teaching stories about (rare & exceptional) fallacies of
themselves due to lust n anger? Would intelligent
propagandists do that to themselves?
• Outcastes are identified by their qualities, not by their

birth.
• Outcastes deserve to be kept outside the doors because
they are unclean & lazy & envious & arrogant & don't
follow regulations or discipline & don't respect elders
whom they supposed to respect.
• It's better to stay away from such foolish people, they go
about quarrelling without any reason, they will beat you
and drag you down to their level and then keep beating
you down furthermore just for their arrogant titillation.
• If you have no experience about the rascaldom of these
miscreants, I'd suggest you to spend some time with them
& experience their association yourself.
• I could try helping you find a suitable association for your
experiment, let me know if you're ready!!
Authenticity of Vedas:
Vedas cannot be man made:
• There are different schools of thought: Advaita, Dvaita,
shunya Vada, tattva Vada, vishisht advait, shad darshan
etc. All of which are originating from the same Vedas. But
there is a duality over here - while all of them disagree
upon certain (philosophical) points mutually, yet everyone
agrees on the same deities, they don't have disagreement

over superiority of certain deities.
• If one single man (/or local group of men) would had
plotted these fabrications, he would not have acomodated
the other different schools of thought within his work, he
would have considered only his self interest, akin the
different nefarious cults apparent today.
Otherwise wouldn't it have had spoilt his propaganda?
• If there was any interpolation inside the scriptures, by
anyone from any school of thought, they would first of all
have attempted to uproot the philosophy of the others who
speak a philosophy contrary to theirs, in pursuit of showing
themselves to be authentic & others to be false, maybe for
making exclusive money our of their buisness. But do we
see anything such in reality?
• Vedas explain that there are many different varieties of
people, with different levels of spritual maturity, embarked
on their multi-life journey of spritual elevation, who need to
be uplifted from the point which they have had
accomplished by their past life sadhana. The purpose of
Vedas is to elevate everyone from whatever level they are
situated in.
Summary of my emails:
• In first email I sent a lecture on debunking Aryan invasion
theory & Britishers' black diplomacy.
• In second email I sent few links which debunk the theory
of natural selection by evolution, & then i clarified some
atheistic misconceptions regarding puranik stories & also
explained how shambuka deserved to be killed. then I
highlighted the incompleteness & fallacies of Buddhist
worldview.
• In third email i explained why God is not visible or

accessible to us & why are we left alone in this abandoned
place. Then I shed some light on the intrinsics of pralaya &
destruction. Then i explained that electronic technology
was already existing despite of our intervention. Then
lastly, i challenged the magnitude & direction of empirical
reductionists.
• In fourth email, i explained the meaninglessness &
hypocrisy of the agnostic worldview. Then i explained KC
process is joyful in, both - this lifetime & beyond this
lifetime. Then i gave few pointers regarding fossils
excavation, my point was that humans always existed on
the planet, contrary to their claim that humans didn't
coexist during T-rex age. Then i further explained how
Indus civilization theory is a hoax. Then i gave some
insights on the rise of age of technology form
mathematical & evolutionary perspective.
• the fifth email begins with arguments Bashing evolution
theory, then It goes ahead showing that all science
innovation was a hard work of theistic scientists.
• in sixth email i gave few pointers to show that knowledge
& remembrance comes from within of us, it's not in our
control. Then i explained why the athiests are mistaken in
believing that whole world is a place of evil & suffering.
Then i discussed where does the soul go during heart
surgery, i also gave a topic for homework - Phantom limbs.
Then we discussed vedic perspective on NASA moon
landings. Etc.
• in this email i give my humble thoughts on the
benevolence of God, authenticity of Brahmanas &
authenticity of Vedas. Below I present few narratives from
studies in neuroscience - explaining that the brain is
controlled by something outside of itself.
(Note: all that I've spoken are my philosophical

convictions, which i had journaled down while making
decisions on the topic of joining ashram)
These findings are difficult to reconcile with the sense that

we are the conscious authors of our actions:
• The physiologist Benjamin Libet famously used EEG to
show that activity in the brain’s motor cortex can be
detected some 300 milliseconds before a person feels that
he has decided to move.
• Another lab extended this work using functional magnetic
resonance imaging (fMRI): Subjects were asked to press
one of two buttons while watching a “clock” composed of a
random sequence of letters appearing on a screen. They
reported which letter was visible at the moment they
decided to press one button or the other. The
experimenters found two brain regions that contained
information about which button subjects would press a full
7 to 10 seconds before the decision was consciously
made.
• More recently, direct recordings from the cortex showed
that the activity of merely 256 neurons was sufficient to
predict with 80 percent accuracy a person’s decision to
move 700 milliseconds before he became aware of it.
BG perspective:
• We aren't the doers, three modes of material world are
the executer of our actions. Those who think themselves
to be the doers of their actions are deluded.
• The modes of nature don't act randomly by chance.
When we desire to do some action (in our mind), then our
Paramatma in heart sanctions that action, and then the
physical body composed of 3 modes of nature execute

those actions.
• during coma or sickness when our body doesn't function
normally asper our will, when the scope of our actions are
impeded & when our free will is suspended, we should
understand it to be our bad karma hitting on us.

*On theory of evolution:*
We have not studied all over the world.

• Has Darwin studied all the continents on this planet?
• Have we gone down into the depths of the seas and
there excavated all the layers of the earth?
• No. Therefore our knowledge is imperfect.
• This is the relative world, and here everyone speaks with
relative knowledge. Therefore we should accept
knowledge from a person who is not within this relativity.
Humans always coexisted with other species:

• Regarding dinosaur fossils/ apes fossils been found and
excavated, even if these species were living few million
years ago it doesn't mean humans didn't exist, humans
were always coexisting.
• There are lots of human fossils found, which was ignored

or hidden by the evolutionary scientists. There's a lots of
research been done on this subject, explaining that
humans have always existed on this planet.
Humans didn't diverge from apes:

• There is micro evolution & there is macro evolution. All
the evidence we have found today is about micro
evolution.
• Macro evolution is just a false claim by the atheistic
evolutionists, which is backed up with zero evidences.
• Whatever hype is being propagated regarding macro
evolution is nothing but their evidenceless belief, finding
shelter under fabrications of the 'missing links'.
• The many bizzare speculations done upon evidences of
micro evolution is again a debatable issue, there's a
difference between what is actually found and what they're
interpreting out of it.
Why are animal fossils so rare?

• Only in sand or neutral soil, skeletons can remain intact
for hundreds of years.
• Animal bones get decomposed very quickly. If
scavengers do not destroy or move the bones, skeletons
normally take around 20 years to dissolve in fertile soil.
• Bones dissolve in salt water as creatures and microbes
continuously break down all living tissue, although bones
may take several months to breakdown.
• Fossil formation and discovery depend on chains of
ecological and geological events that occur over deep
time. Only a small fraction of the species that have ever
lived has been preserved as fossils.
• In vedic culture, the bodies were burnt in fire as a part of
last rites rituals. Even the demoniac species would do last
rites.
*Evidence for Mahabharata war? The rationale for

believing it to be real?*
What evidences are left out from the battlefields?

• Mahabharat war used divine arrows and mystic
weapons. For example: one arrow would produce many
arrows and would disappear after impact. You can't expect
to get preserved remains for your perception from subtle
objects.
• The battlefield is usually cleaned up after the war gets
over, and the bodies of dead soldiers are given last rites.
Therefore we can't expect to find any corpses or weaponry
over there.
• Ravana would throw away all the corpses of his dead
fighters into the ocean after each day of battle. His
intention behind doing this was to demotivate the opposing
side, by making them think there were very few casualties
on Ravana s side on the previous day of battle. You can
go & search for it inside oceans yourself.
• In musala yuddh, the weapon was composed of plant
fiber, which easily decomposes in water.
• Dvaraka was flooded & drowned into ocean, by divine
arrangement. If you wish I can help you go there
downstream to search it yourself.
• We should at least see some of the battle remains? the

field cleaners would have left behind at least one broken
weapon from the war by mistake? Is this possible? No.
• There had been so many civilization & generations since

the war occurred, how can you expect the weapon
remains to not get stolen by rogues?
Keep your vehicle with key and go away for some time,
you can scientifically verify that every time you keep your
vehicle like this, it gets stolen by thieves.
Repeat this experiment, for as much scientific evidence
you would like to have, regarding robbery of object/
evidences.
Regarding location of Lanka:

• Maybe the real Lanka is submerged inside water, or
destroyed by the later kings of Ayodhya due to
uncontrollable wrath, or maybe destroyed by vibhishana's
next generation to express regret.
• Maybe today's srilanka is the real Lanka, and has
changed its location due to tectonic movements at the
spot. Or maybe some other mystical entity/cause has
pulled sri lanka closer towards our continent.
How could so many soldiers be present in dvaraka?

• Maybe most of them were inactive soldiers living outside
the territory, who would be joining forces in the hour of
need.
• Maybe the residing soldiers would mutate themselves via
yogic replications, expanding themselves whenever war
was declared.
• Maybe there were mystical hi-tech floating mansions,
which would acomodated a large number of residents.
• Lord can do all sorts of incomprehensible tasks.
• If scientists do believe the huge universe to blast out of a

tiny point, what's the issue in accepting this scriptural
injunction?
• Both of them require a equal faith in data. One data is

coming from our imperfect senses & other from a authentic
source.
Reaction video on unscientific speculation & propaganda:

https://youtu.be/59VL0JXt5iY
On atheism:
https://youtu.be/SMzogqrYnPY
On Sat, 6 Aug, 2022, 12:10 pm sudarshan,

<sudarshanpillay839011@gmail.com> wrote:
It's already established that there is someone in control.
• Even if you consider scriptures to be a man made
thing, you should still read it for expanding your mindset
& for being prayerful - if not by accepting it to be a
revelation from above, then at least while treating it as
our individual prayer from below. (If God allowed such
books to exist, he would agree to fulfill our prayers,
which are guided by it)
• As it's clearly evident that the writers of ancient
scriptures were far more advanced than today's fiction
writers, because all discoveries today were possible only
because of muni's teachings, & our imagination seems
to be like tiny dwarfs in comparison to the works of
ancient giants, therefore it's a better option to study
those scriptures rather than being exposed to today's
postmodern movies & novels.
• Superior with respect to: sattvik morality, social
administration, buisness lessons, worker class loyalty,
warfare etiquette, greeting relatives & friends, arts,

medicine, technology, engineering etc.
• This satvik lifestyle is healthier than a living a
unregulated materialistic life, both for you and the
society around you.
• relevant quote: "We Owe a lot to the Indians, who
taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile
scientific discovery could have been made!" – Albert
Einstein
• There are only two ways to live your life. One is as
though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though
everything is a miracle. – Albert Einstein

Are scriptures just a propaganda by Brahmans to earn
donations?
• We see that they are very much detached, they even
give up family life & comforts by taking vanaprastha.
They live a full minimalist life away from their children &
relatives & gross enjoyment. And no, they aren't living in
any deprivation, they're fully contented within their
meditation and sadhana.
Are they getting anything from the shudras/ outcastes/
anybody else, amid this act?
• There are many scriptural injunctions mentioning that
Brahmans would get bad karma & suffering, if they don't
work for the elevation of their disciples proportionally & if
they become lazy instead. We have practical examples
confirming this.
• and why would Brahmans spoil their own image, by
teaching stories about (rare & exceptional) fallacies of
themselves due to lust n anger? Would intelligent
propagandists do that to themselves?
• Outcastes are identified by their qualities, not by their

birth.
• Outcastes deserve to be kept outside the doors
because they are unclean & lazy & envious & arrogant &
don't follow regulations or discipline & don't respect
elders whom they supposed to respect.
• It's better to stay away from such foolish people, they
go about quarrelling without any reason, they will beat
you and drag you down to their level and then keep
beating you down furthermore just for their arrogant
titillation.
• If you have no experience about the rascaldom of
these miscreants, I'd suggest you to spend some time
with them & experience their association yourself.
• I could try helping you find a suitable association for
your experiment, let me know if you're ready!!

• There are different schools of thought: Advaita, Dvaita,
shunya Vada, tattva Vada, vishisht advait, shad darshan
etc. All of which are originating from the same Vedas.
But there is a duality over here - while all of them
disagree upon certain (philosophical) points mutually,
yet everyone agrees on the same deities, they don't
have disagreement over superiority of certain deities.
• If one single man (/or local group of men) would had
plotted these fabrications, he would not have
acomodated the other different schools of thought within
his work, he would have considered only his self
interest, akin the different nefarious cults apparent
today.
Otherwise wouldn't it have had spoilt his propaganda?

• If there was any interpolation inside the scriptures, by
anyone from any school of thought, they would first of all
have attempted to uproot the philosophy of the others
who speak a philosophy contrary to theirs, in pursuit of
showing themselves to be authentic & others to be false,
maybe for making exclusive money our of their
buisness. But do we see anything such in reality?
• Vedas explain that there are many different varieties of
people, with different levels of spritual maturity,
embarked on their multi-life journey of spritual elevation,
who need to be uplifted from the point which they have
had accomplished by their past life sadhana. The
purpose of Vedas is to elevate everyone from whatever
level they are situated in.

• In first email I sent a lecture on debunking Aryan
invasion theory & Britishers' black diplomacy.
• In second email I sent few links which debunk the
theory of natural selection by evolution, & then i clarified
some atheistic misconceptions regarding puranik stories
& also explained how shambuka deserved to be killed.
then I highlighted the incompleteness & fallacies of
Buddhist worldview.
• In third email i explained why God is not visible or
accessible to us & why are we left alone in this
abandoned place. Then I shed some light on the
intrinsics of pralaya & destruction. Then i explained that
electronic technology was already existing despite of our
intervention. Then lastly, i challenged the magnitude &
direction of empirical reductionists.
• In fourth email, i explained the meaninglessness &

hypocrisy of the agnostic worldview. Then i explained
KC process is joyful in, both - this lifetime & beyond this
lifetime. Then i gave few pointers regarding fossils
excavation, my point was that humans always existed
on the planet, contrary to their claim that humans didn't
coexist during T-rex age. Then i further explained how
Indus civilization theory is a hoax. Then i gave some
• the fifth email begins with arguments Bashing evolution
theory, then It goes ahead showing that all science
innovation was a hard work of theistic scientists.
• in sixth email i gave few pointers to show that
knowledge & remembrance comes from within of us, it's
not in our control. Then i explained why the athiests are
mistaken in believing that whole world is a place of evil
& suffering. Then i discussed where does the soul go
during heart surgery, i also gave a topic for homework -
Phantom limbs. Then we discussed vedic perspective
on NASA moon landings. Etc.
• in this email i give my humble thoughts on the
benevolence of God, authenticity of Brahmanas &
authenticity of Vedas. Below I present few narratives
from studies in neuroscience - explaining that the brain
is controlled by something outside of itself.
(Note: all that I've spoken are my philosophical
convictions, which i had journaled down while making
decisions on the topic of joining ashram)

These findings are difficult to reconcile with the sense

that we are the conscious authors of our actions:
• The physiologist Benjamin Libet famously used EEG to

show that activity in the brain’s motor cortex can be
detected some 300 milliseconds before a person feels
that he has decided to move.
• Another lab extended this work using functional
magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI): Subjects were
asked to press one of two buttons while watching a
“clock” composed of a random sequence of letters
appearing on a screen. They reported which letter was
visible at the moment they decided to press one button
or the other. The experimenters found two brain regions
that contained information about which button subjects
would press a full 7 to 10 seconds before the decision
was consciously made.
• More recently, direct recordings from the cortex
showed that the activity of merely 256 neurons was
sufficient to predict with 80 percent accuracy a person’s
decision to move 700 milliseconds before he became
aware of it.

BG perspective:
• We aren't the doers, three modes of material world are
the executer of our actions. Those who think themselves
to be the doers of their actions are deluded.
• The modes of nature don't act randomly by chance.
When we desire to do some action (in our mind), then
our Paramatma in heart sanctions that action, and then
the physical body composed of 3 modes of nature
execute those actions.
• during coma or sickness when our body doesn't
function normally asper our will, when the scope of our
actions are impeded & when our free will is suspended,
we should understand it to be our bad karma hitting on

us.

On Fri, 5 Aug, 2022, 11:01 am sudarshan,

* If there are any more questions please let me know,

we will sort it out together.
* And thank you a lot for helping me think why we do
what we do.


YS 🙏🙏


Vishnu is is Triyugi, he doesn't reveal himself in

Kaliyuga.
• No Problem Can Be Solved From The Same Level

Of Consciousness That Created It - Albert Einstein
• Errors occur when we take things in out of it's
context, do speculation, without inquiring doubts
from higher authorities.
• Humility means to acknowledge the complexity of
reality. - Sudarshan Pillay (me)

Can Paramatma give us revelation from within?
• People known as chronic complainers. They have a

tendency to ruminate on problems and to focus on
setbacks over progress. Some research suggests that
making a habit of complaining can “re-wire” the brain so
that those particular thinking orientations become
ingrained.
• People with high levels of cynical distrust may be more

likely to develop dementia, according to a new study.
Cynical distrust, which is defined as the belief that others
are mainly motivated by selfish concerns, has been
associated with other health problems, such as heart
disease.
• Pessimism has been linked to mental health issues such

as anxiety, stress, and depression. Some research links
pessimism to inflammation and lower immunity. One study
even identified increased pessimism as a suicide risk in
adults.
• A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in

many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or
financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality
disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when
they're not given the special favors or admiration they
believe they deserve.
Below i present few quotes by agnostic evolutionists:
We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones.

Most people are never going to die, because they are
never going to be born. The number of people who could
be here, in my place, out number the sand grains in the
Sahara. If you think about all the different ways in which
our genes could be permuted, you and I are quite
grotesquely lucky to be here. The number of events that
had to happen in order for you to exist, in order for me to
exist... we are privileged to be alive and we should make
the most of our time on this world. – Richard Dawkins
Much as we might wish to believe otherwise, universal love

and the welfare of the species as a whole are concepts
which simply do not make evolutionary sense – Richard
Dawkins
How we pay attention to the present moment determines

the character of our experience and the quality of our lives.
The habit of spending nearly every waking moment lost in
thought leaves us at the mercy of whatever our thoughts
happen to be.
Meditation is a way of breaking this spell. – Sam Harris
Everything we do is for the purpose of altering

consciousness. We form friendships so that we can feel
certain emotions, like love, and avoid others, like
loneliness. We eat specific foods to enjoy their fleeting
presence on our tongues. We read for the pleasure of
thinking another person's thoughts. – Sam Harris
Even from the gross material perspective:
Mahavira, the Jain patriarch: Do not injure, abuse, oppress,

enslave, insult, torment, torture, or kill any creature or living
being.
Imagine how different our world might be if it contained this
as its central precept.
Lying and ethics:

Lying is probably one of the most common wrong acts that
we carry out. Most people would condemn lying except
when there's a good reason for it.
Lying may be helpful when there is no ambiguity about the
resulting benefits for those on the receiving end.
Utilitarians base their reasoning on the claim that actions,
including lying, are morally acceptable when the resulting
consequences maximize benefit or minimize harm (for
everyone).
A lie, therefore, is not always immoral; in fact, when lying is
necessary to maximize benefit or minimize harm, it may be
immoral not to lie.
On Tue, 9 Aug, 2022, 12:57 pm sudarshan,

Disclaimer:
I've gave all the answers to the questions below.
If you still believe that you are logical and rational,

instead of foolish and a hypocrite & a lazy outcaste who
deserves to be kicked out, try answering the questions
I've raised in my previous emails.
Or at least try thinking over them, honestly. Take this
challenge as politely as your want.

(Answering questions by agnostic youtube channel)

1. kya 5000 saal phle krishna tha uske sbut kya hai?
2. kya krishna sanskrit bolta tha?
3 kya 5000 saal purv sanskrit payi jati thi?
4. krishna ke updesh kisne likha?
5. kis lipi aur bhasha me likha?
6. 5000 saal purv ki iupdesh aaj kiske dvara layi gai?
7. krishna arun ki personal samvaad kisne suna?
8. Krishna ne updesh de diya to uski puja kyo kre?
9. agr koi kuch achhi baat bata bhi de to uske naam pr
mandir ki dukan kyo?

1. kya 5000 saal phle krishna tha uske sbut kya hai?
Evidence wasn't kept in the refrigerator for you to check
it 5000 years later. There was destruction after that time.
And the proof for the destruction is that - humans have
had begun/ restarted their discoveries from scratch,
despite human species existing for lakhs of years along
with mathematics & semiconductors.
https://youtu.be/-K7t46Op2us

3. kya krishna sanskrit bolta tha?
Yes. There was oral tradition in those times. not written

tradition. People had high retention ability, weren't idiots
like you.

2 kya 5000 saal purv sanskrit payi jati thi?

50,000 saal or 5,00,000 saal pehele bhi payi jati thi.

3. krishna ke updesh kisne likha?

Vyasa narrated to ganesha as he was writing it down. All
the demigods in the sky witnessed it. Sanjay had the
divine vision to see it, he narrated it to dhirtarashtra.

4. kis lipi aur bhasha me likha?

Brahmi lipi https://youtu.be/3jMy_iUVNPs

5. 5000 saal purv ki iupdesh aaj kiske dvara layi gai?

* Via chain of disciplic succession, among four
sampradaya & by many sages.
* There are numerous commentaries on BG by different
Acharyas, who existed in different parts, at different
times, yet all the sanskrit verses are same in each of
their works.
* Each of the sampradaya have the same sanskrit
verses, despite being carried down through generations
independent of other parallel sampradaya,
* Even while the manuscripts were burnt by Mughals, the
pandits who memorized it completely, had reproduced it
by recollection. It was thoroughly scrutinized & validated
by the scholars.

6. krishna arun ki personal samvaad kisne suna?

Reffer to answer 03

7. Krishna ne updesh de diya to uski puja kyo kre?

This is a stupid question. Those weren't irrelevant &

temporary instructions regarding how to repair a laptop
or phone.
They are a transcendental revelation, guiding us towards
our actual destination, and gives the practices to follow
on the path.
Worshiping God is a part of our practice, mentioned by
God himself, therefore we worship God.

8. agr koi kuch achhi baat bata bhi de to uske naam pr

mandir ki dukan kyo?
Yes & no. We offer gratitude to the seniors & respectable
people, but we always acknowledge the position of God
to be the source of everything.

For example:
• We offer respect to 'Sun', it is the source of our sight &
food & water & planet, and it deserves to receive our
gratitude & thanksgiving.
• On the other side, today's rebellious rascals don't value
anything, they have no gratitude, they don't follow
authority and don't respect their parents & elders, who
don't mind indulging in LBGT & even publicly justify it,
who have a highly malicious tendency to exploit others -
they're now are fantasizing 'dyson sphere' in pursuit of
chasing their dream of endless hankerings, for titilating
their false ego further.
• The thing is that, first they want to accept nobody as
authority, & then they want to exploit everything around
them for our selfishness. They need some gratitude
instead of greed. It's better for them.

Postmodern rascals have ruined everything:
• You've killed the trees, the free air conditioners & air
filters, and have made artificial AC. And created so much
imbalance in the environment.
• You've clouded the ozone with air pollutants, and made
the sunlight disappear, and now are selling artificial
sunlight of uv rays, at a huge cost.
• You've polluted rivers with nuclear waste & factory
waste, and are selling water for high price. And also
making a hell for the aquatics & amphibians.
• Food was supposed to be free, you're selling it in shop.
(The 'you' refers to the rascal materialists)

What substantial progress has been made, by your

egoistic & arrogant endeavours, except deadlier
weapons?
Can you eat GMO or silicon chips instead of grains?
What will you feed to your next generation? (Oh sorry, i
forgot that you don't care about them, you don't care
about anyone or anything, because you are selfish)
In the pursuit of innovation, rascals have simply replaced
the most fine tuned lifestyle, with the worst man made
bullshit.

How foolish & egocentric can you be? The world is larger
than you, get above yourself.
Anthropocentrism is a curse to the ecology.

The agnostic haters need to see this video:

https://youtu.be/DffqK6j-y1U
(Lack of religion breeds mental illness)

On Tue, 9 Aug, 2022, 10:00 am sudarshan,

Kindly find the attached files below:

On religion before king Ashok:

https://youtu.be/QlniKYE6jGg

https://youtu.be/mcX5OGksR-c

https://youtu.be/B_m_PcUqZH4

https://youtu.be/HVycf7vUYV0

Your person is simply running from the question in this

video: https://youtu.be/nM9J_VA_4u8

His arguments are simply based on his prejudices,

intolerance & hatredness. nothing in this was a good
argument. https://youtu.be/_OThcN4ZSOE
You can compare videos of both the parties & verify for
yourself weather: who is a swan & who is a crow

Atheism: hopeless, meaningless, purposeless.

https://answersingenesis.org/world-religions/atheism/
atheism-hopeless-meaningless-purposeless/

* Atheists seem to have made it their personal

meaning in life to attack religion (except their own)
* But again, why does this matter? If theists—and
everyone they come in contact with—just die, and
that’s it, why does it matter what they believed?
* Why does it matter if we help anyone? Why does it

matter if we make humankind better? We will die, and
they will die.
* In an atheistic worldview it doesn’t matter how we live
or what we do, because there is no ultimate standard
for right and wrong and because everyone’s fate is the
same—death.
* So who decides what is good and evil? Is it the
individual, society, a specific government, whoever has
the most power or the biggest guns?
* Why not just live however we please and do
whatever we want?
* All our actions and intentions boils down to a self-
serving battle in this cut throat competition, giving rise
to higher and higher intolerance. Atheism is just a
disturbance to the society, pain to the world at large.

Refuting the illogical refutations of atheists:

01:
Evolution is totally unfit to survive, if seen from the
perspective of evidence.The only reason for its survival
is that it provides atheists a seemingly scientific
rationalization for maintaining their beliefs.
https://youtu.be/aqoGUKFYqTw

02:
Agnoists argument: The designer hypothesis
immediately raises the larger problem of who designed
the designer. If the object in nature is complex and so
improbable, the designer must be at least equally, if

not more, complex and hence improbable.

Refutation: In order to recognize an explanation as the

best, one needn’t be able to explain the explanation. In
fact, so requiring would lead to an infinite regress of
explanations, so that nothing could ever be explained
and science would be destroyed.

So in the case at hand, in order to recognize that

intelligent design is the best explanation of the
appearance of design in the universe, one needn’t be
able to explain the designer.
Science doesn’t have any easy way out. To propose as
the origin of everything a singularity begs several
questions

1. Where did that singularity come from?

(Eternally crunching and expanding universes is just
an unproven and unprovable speculation to solve a
self-created problem)

2. Something with infinite temperature and density –

how simple is that? And how probable?

3. How scientific is it to talk about something beyond

space and time, and beyond ‘mathematical description
and physical realization’?

On simulation theory: https://youtu.be/3d9i_0Ty7Cg

On Mon, 8 Aug, 2022, 11:04 am sudarshan,

Logic for existence of soul:
* Mind being imperceivable and subtle cannot be

analysed by science, yet it cannot be disproved by
science either, because mind is what we're identify
ourselves with, which is not a located anywhere in
our body.
* Denying existence of mind is self contradictory.

You need mind to process the the very idea about
the inexistence of your mind. eg a person saying 'i
cannot speak english', while he just spoke 4 words
in English. Eg a person saying I don't exist, while he
needs to be alive to speak that words.
* Phantom limbs research proves existence of subtle

body composed of mind.
* If mind exists without being scientifically

perceivable by us, then why not our soul,?
* Existence of soul is a confidential subject asper

scriptures.
My conclusion:
Soul (the operator of our subtle body) exists. God

exists - logically, scripturally, scientifically,
historically. Action-reaction mechanism exists,
chance theory is false, and reincarnation happens.
Therefore now athiests should start worrying about

the descriptions from Garuda Purana, isn't it?
On Mon, 8 Aug, 2022, 10:53 am sudarshan,

My perspective on Abrahamaic faiths:

*Not everyone gets liberation just by believing

certain things. Liberation depends solely on one's
elevation of consciousness.*
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will

enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord,
did we not prophesy in your name and in your
name drive out demons and in your name perform
many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I

never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
*Hints on law of karma & rebirth*
Galatians 6:7
“Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A

man reaps what he sows.”
(E.g. a terrorist who killed lots of people in one life,

will definitely get repaid back, by each of his
victims, proportionally.)
John 9. As he went along, he saw a man blind

from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who
sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born
blind?”
(Reincarnation was already well taught in Greek

philosophy: Pythagoras, who was a disciple of
Indian sages, believed in reincarnation and
claimed to remember previous incarnations.)
Importance of taking Sannyasa & detachment:
Matthew 10:34-36
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring

peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace,
but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his

own household.’[a]
Mark. 8: [35] For whosoever will save his life shall

lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my
sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
[36] For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain

the whole world, and lose his own soul?
*On "Thou shalt not kill"*
Prabhupāda: That would mean that Christ was not

intelligent enough to use the right word: murder.
There is killing, and there is murder. Murder refers
to human beings. Do you think Jesus was not
intelligent enough to use the right word—murder—
instead of the word killing? Killing means any kind
of killing, and especially animal killing. If Jesus
had meant simply the killing of humans, he would
have used the word murder.
Prabhupāda: The people were so rascal that they

attempted to kill him. Because he was speaking of
God. So we can understand the pollution of the
then society, how intelligent they were. He had to
deal with such rascals that he was speaking about
God and the result is that they wanted to kill him
first. He preached, "Thou shalt not kill," and they
killed him first. This is their intelligence.
The divine plan to gradually elevate them towards

moksha, asper their pace & place?
- Two things that determines our results: karma &

iccha -> Qualification & desires.
- Our desires are our main orienters. Qualification

are like the credits, which determines weather we
are qualified enough to attain that or not.
- Others who are not qualified will be obviously

kept in a waiting phase, take rebirth & get that
much piety & qualification, then retry again.
- Due to the fact that, sadhana credits are not lost

at time of annihilation, therefore there's no point in
fearing loss. You can resume carefree from next
life onwards.
- Their sadhana contains fasting on certain days,

praying the praises of God, being truthful & non
violent & detached & compassionate.
- at your place, at your pace, access his grace.
All faiths focus on multi-life elevation:
Obviously there is possibility for certain addition/

adulteration in scriptures. But we don't have to get
obsessed by those irrelevant specifics.
There are the same broad things highlighted in all

faiths/ religions, like god & soul & thier connection
& the process of reunion. We should focus on the
broader perspective.
On Sun, 7 Aug, 2022, 8:20 pm sudarshan,

*On theory of evolution:*

We have not studied all over the world.

• Has Darwin studied all the continents on this
planet?
• Have we gone down into the depths of the
seas and there excavated all the layers of the
earth?
• No. Therefore our knowledge is imperfect.
• This is the relative world, and here everyone
speaks with relative knowledge. Therefore we
should accept knowledge from a person who is
not within this relativity.
Humans always coexisted with other species:

• Regarding dinosaur fossils/ apes fossils been
found and excavated, even if these species
were living few million years ago it doesn't mean
humans didn't exist, humans were always
coexisting.
• There are lots of human fossils found, which
was ignored or hidden by the evolutionary
scientists. There's a lots of research been done
on this subject, explaining that humans have
always existed on this planet.

Humans didn't diverge from apes:

• There is micro evolution & there is macro
evolution. All the evidence we have found today
is about micro evolution.
• Macro evolution is just a false claim by the
atheistic evolutionists, which is backed up with
zero evidences.
• Whatever hype is being propagated regarding
macro evolution is nothing but their
evidenceless belief, finding shelter under
fabrications of the 'missing links'.
• The many bizzare speculations done upon
evidences of micro evolution is again a
debatable issue, there's a difference between
what is actually found and what they're
interpreting out of it.

Why are animal fossils so rare?

• Only in sand or neutral soil, skeletons can
remain intact for hundreds of years.
• Animal bones get decomposed very quickly. If

scavengers do not destroy or move the bones,
skeletons normally take around 20 years to
dissolve in fertile soil.
• Bones dissolve in salt water as creatures and
microbes continuously break down all living
tissue, although bones may take several months
to breakdown.
• Fossil formation and discovery depend on
chains of ecological and geological events that
occur over deep time. Only a small fraction of
the species that have ever lived has been
preserved as fossils.
• In vedic culture, the bodies were burnt in fire
as a part of last rites rituals. Even the demoniac
species would do last rites.

*Evidence for Mahabharata war? The rationale

for believing it to be real?*

What evidences are left out from the

battlefields?
• Mahabharat war used divine arrows and
mystic weapons. For example: one arrow would
produce many arrows and would disappear after
impact. You can't expect to get preserved
remains for your perception from subtle objects.
• The battlefield is usually cleaned up after the
war gets over, and the bodies of dead soldiers
are given last rites. Therefore we can't expect to

find any corpses or weaponry over there.
• Ravana would throw away all the corpses of
his dead fighters into the ocean after each day
of battle. His intention behind doing this was to
demotivate the opposing side, by making them
think there were very few casualties on Ravana
s side on the previous day of battle. You can go
& search for it inside oceans yourself.
• In musala yuddh, the weapon was composed
of plant fiber, which easily decomposes in
water.
• Dvaraka was flooded & drowned into ocean,
by divine arrangement. If you wish I can help
you go there downstream to search it yourself.

• We should at least see some of the battle

remains? the field cleaners would have left
behind at least one broken weapon from the war
by mistake? Is this possible? No.
• There had been so many civilization &
generations since the war occurred, how can
you expect the weapon remains to not get
stolen by rogues?
Keep your vehicle with key and go away for
some time, you can scientifically verify that
every time you keep your vehicle like this, it gets
stolen by thieves.
Repeat this experiment, for as much scientific
evidence you would like to have, regarding
robbery of object/ evidences.

Regarding location of Lanka:
• Maybe the real Lanka is submerged inside

water, or destroyed by the later kings of
Ayodhya due to uncontrollable wrath, or maybe
destroyed by vibhishana's next generation to
express regret.
• Maybe today's srilanka is the real Lanka, and
has changed its location due to tectonic
movements at the spot. Or maybe some other
mystical entity/cause has pulled sri lanka closer
towards our continent.

How could so many soldiers be present in

dvaraka?
• Maybe most of them were inactive soldiers
living outside the territory, who would be joining
forces in the hour of need.
• Maybe the residing soldiers would mutate
themselves via yogic replications, expanding
themselves whenever war was declared.
• Maybe there were mystical hi-tech floating
mansions, which would acomodated a large
number of residents.
• Lord can do all sorts of incomprehensible
tasks.

• If scientists do believe the huge universe to

blast out of a tiny point, what's the issue in
accepting this scriptural injunction?
• Both of them require a equal faith in data. One
data is coming from our imperfect senses &
other from a authentic source.

Reaction video on unscientific speculation &

propaganda:
https://youtu.be/59VL0JXt5iY

On atheism:
https://youtu.be/SMzogqrYnPY

On Sat, 6 Aug, 2022, 12:10 pm sudarshan,

It's already established that there is someone
in control.
• Even if you consider scriptures to be a man
made thing, you should still read it for
expanding your mindset & for being prayerful
- if not by accepting it to be a revelation from
above, then at least while treating it as our
individual prayer from below. (If God allowed
such books to exist, he would agree to fulfill
our prayers, which are guided by it)
• As it's clearly evident that the writers of
ancient scriptures were far more advanced
than today's fiction writers, because all
discoveries today were possible only because
of muni's teachings, & our imagination seems
to be like tiny dwarfs in comparison to the
works of ancient giants, therefore it's a better
option to study those scriptures rather than
being exposed to today's postmodern movies
& novels.
• Superior with respect to: sattvik morality,
social administration, buisness lessons,
worker class loyalty, warfare etiquette,
greeting relatives & friends, arts, medicine,

technology, engineering etc.
• This satvik lifestyle is healthier than a living
a unregulated materialistic life, both for you
and the society around you.
• relevant quote: "We Owe a lot to the Indians,
who taught us how to count, without which no
worthwhile scientific discovery could have
been made!" – Albert Einstein
• There are only two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle. The
other is as though everything is a miracle. –
Albert Einstein

Are scriptures just a propaganda by
Brahmans to earn donations?
• We see that they are very much detached,
they even give up family life & comforts by
taking vanaprastha. They live a full minimalist
life away from their children & relatives &
gross enjoyment. And no, they aren't living in
any deprivation, they're fully contented within
their meditation and sadhana.
Are they getting anything from the shudras/
outcastes/ anybody else, amid this act?
• There are many scriptural injunctions
mentioning that Brahmans would get bad
karma & suffering, if they don't work for the
elevation of their disciples proportionally & if
they become lazy instead. We have practical
examples confirming this.
• and why would Brahmans spoil their own

image, by teaching stories about (rare &
exceptional) fallacies of themselves due to
lust n anger? Would intelligent propagandists
do that to themselves?

• Outcastes are identified by their qualities,

not by their birth.
• Outcastes deserve to be kept outside the
doors because they are unclean & lazy &
envious & arrogant & don't follow regulations
or discipline & don't respect elders whom they
supposed to respect.
• It's better to stay away from such foolish
people, they go about quarrelling without any
reason, they will beat you and drag you down
to their level and then keep beating you down
furthermore just for their arrogant titillation.
• If you have no experience about the
rascaldom of these miscreants, I'd suggest
you to spend some time with them &
experience their association yourself.
• I could try helping you find a suitable
association for your experiment, let me know
if you're ready!!

• There are different schools of thought:
Advaita, Dvaita, shunya Vada, tattva Vada,
vishisht advait, shad darshan etc. All of which
are originating from the same Vedas. But
there is a duality over here - while all of them
disagree upon certain (philosophical) points

mutually, yet everyone agrees on the same
deities, they don't have disagreement over
superiority of certain deities.
• If one single man (/or local group of men)
would had plotted these fabrications, he
would not have acomodated the other
different schools of thought within his work, he
would have considered only his self interest,
akin the different nefarious cults apparent
today.
Otherwise wouldn't it have had spoilt his
propaganda?
• If there was any interpolation inside the
scriptures, by anyone from any school of
thought, they would first of all have attempted
to uproot the philosophy of the others who
speak a philosophy contrary to theirs, in
pursuit of showing themselves to be authentic
& others to be false, maybe for making
exclusive money our of their buisness. But do
we see anything such in reality?
• Vedas explain that there are many different
varieties of people, with different levels of
spritual maturity, embarked on their multi-life
journey of spritual elevation, who need to be
uplifted from the point which they have had
accomplished by their past life sadhana. The
purpose of Vedas is to elevate everyone from
whatever level they are situated in.

• In first email I sent a lecture on debunking

Aryan invasion theory & Britishers' black
diplomacy.
• In second email I sent few links which
debunk the theory of natural selection by
evolution, & then i clarified some atheistic
misconceptions regarding puranik stories &
also explained how shambuka deserved to be
killed. then I highlighted the incompleteness &
fallacies of Buddhist worldview.
• In third email i explained why God is not
visible or accessible to us & why are we left
alone in this abandoned place. Then I shed
some light on the intrinsics of pralaya &
destruction. Then i explained that electronic
technology was already existing despite of our
intervention. Then lastly, i challenged the
magnitude & direction of empirical
reductionists.
• In fourth email, i explained the
meaninglessness & hypocrisy of the agnostic
worldview. Then i explained KC process is
joyful in, both - this lifetime & beyond this
lifetime. Then i gave few pointers regarding
fossils excavation, my point was that humans
always existed on the planet, contrary to their
claim that humans didn't coexist during T-rex
age. Then i further explained how Indus
civilization theory is a hoax. Then i gave some
• the fifth email begins with arguments
Bashing evolution theory, then It goes ahead
showing that all science innovation was a

hard work of theistic scientists.
• in sixth email i gave few pointers to show
that knowledge & remembrance comes from
within of us, it's not in our control. Then i
explained why the athiests are mistaken in
believing that whole world is a place of evil &
suffering. Then i discussed where does the
soul go during heart surgery, i also gave a
topic for homework - Phantom limbs. Then we
discussed vedic perspective on NASA moon
landings. Etc.
• in this email i give my humble thoughts on
the benevolence of God, authenticity of
Brahmanas & authenticity of Vedas. Below I
present few narratives from studies in
neuroscience - explaining that the brain is
controlled by something outside of itself.
(Note: all that I've spoken are my
philosophical convictions, which i had
journaled down while making decisions on the
topic of joining ashram)

These findings are difficult to reconcile with

the sense that we are the conscious authors
of our actions:
• The physiologist Benjamin Libet famously
used EEG to show that activity in the brain’s
motor cortex can be detected some 300
milliseconds before a person feels that he has
decided to move.
• Another lab extended this work using
functional magnetic resonance imaging
(fMRI): Subjects were asked to press one of

two buttons while watching a “clock”
composed of a random sequence of letters
appearing on a screen. They reported which
letter was visible at the moment they decided
to press one button or the other. The
experimenters found two brain regions that
contained information about which button
subjects would press a full 7 to 10 seconds
before the decision was consciously made.
• More recently, direct recordings from the
cortex showed that the activity of merely 256
neurons was sufficient to predict with 80
percent accuracy a person’s decision to move
700 milliseconds before he became aware of
it.

BG perspective:
• We aren't the doers, three modes of material
world are the executer of our actions. Those
who think themselves to be the doers of their
actions are deluded.
• The modes of nature don't act randomly by
chance. When we desire to do some action
(in our mind), then our Paramatma in heart
sanctions that action, and then the physical
body composed of 3 modes of nature execute
those actions.
• during coma or sickness when our body
doesn't function normally asper our will, when
the scope of our actions are impeded & when
our free will is suspended, we should
understand it to be our bad karma hitting on

us.


* If there are any more questions please let

me know, we will sort it out together.
* And thank you a lot for helping me think
why we do what we do.


YS 🙏🙏


wrote:
Vishnu is is Triyugi, he doesn't reveal

himself in Kaliyuga.
• No Problem Can Be Solved From The

Same Level Of Consciousness That
Created It - Albert Einstein
• Errors occur when we take things in out
of it's context, do speculation, without
inquiring doubts from higher authorities.
• Humility means to acknowledge the
complexity of reality. - Sudarshan Pillay
(me)

Can Paramatma give us revelation from

within?
• Whatever we dream or imagine, that's
nothing but a permutation/ combination of
the inputs that are received by brain
through the senses from the world around
us.
• We cannot conceive anything that
doesn't exist /or anything outside of our
perception (inexistent in our perception)
• Whatever hankerings/ desires pop-up
from inside of us, are nothing but
resurfacing of our accumulated
impressions from many past activities &
experiences.
• whatever inputs we get from apart of our
mind & senses & outer world, it points out
to supernatural factors for the origin of
those inputs.
• Hallucinations are just the past
memories being remembered in a painful
& defective & meaningless way.
(Hallucinations can't explain how could
something sublime & structured &
meaningful be achieved, despite any
immediate source nearby)

Is the world really a place of

meaninglessness & suffering & evil? No.
Not at all.
• Old age is a rare opportunity on this

planet. Svarga loka & other places don't
have old age or childhood or death, they
are always young.
• The reason why ageing is present on
this planet, is to facilitate us to become
detached from family life and accept
vanaprastha, and focus on our vertical
multi-life journey, within the varnashrama
pathway.
• Old age is not the problem, weakness &
diseases are. Old people can also stay
healthy with good immunity, provided that
they live a regulated disciplined lifestyle,
free from all anarthas.
• vanaprastha/ Sannyasa is not
prescribed for kali Yuga, because
everyone is shudra & slow & lazy & short
sighted & greedy & envious. Yet, there
are some exceptions, the really serious
Brahmans & Kshatriyas can accept
renunciation.

Heart regeneration/ replacement/ artificial

heart:
• Heart is the seat of the soul, not the
cage where soul is locked. There is gross
body & there is a subtle body, and soul
operates the gross body via subtle body.
• In heart transplant only the gross matter
of heart is replaced, the subtle body &
heart - with all our karma/ iccha
accumulation is present with us.
• We cannot perceive subtle body/ heart

with material equipment, forget about
interfering with it.
• Cell regeneration rate of heart is 3
years, so does that mean every 3 years
our soul in body changes? No, even the
subtle body is unmoved, forget
speculating anything about the
inconceivable soul.
• regarding subtle body; ask yourself:
- does mind really exist?
- where is mind located in your body?
- Can we perceive our mind?
- If you can't perceive mind, what is the
rational for saying it to be scientific?
- Doesn't it become unscientific, because
it's inconceivable to our senses & lab
instruments?
- Will our mind keep existing even if our
brain is damaged?
- Do all the research you could do, also
check about - 'Phantom limbs'

Does svarga loka exist? Why don't we

see it? NASA moon landings inconsistent
with vedic conception of moon?
• let’s understand the concept of a higher
dimensional object being projected to a
lower dimension. A three-dimensional
office address (given by avenue, street
and floor) can have a two-dimensional
projection (given by avenue and street).
• Similarly, the higher-dimensional

Chandraloka can have a 3 dimensional
projection, the moon visible to us with the
naked eye. No matter how hi-tech our
spacecrafts, they cannot take us beyond
the three-dimensional reality that our
sensory apparatus limits us to.
• The astronauts may have been
subjected to a hi-tech diversion by the
demigods. Consequently, they imagined
they had landed on the moon, but had
been grounded on some other relatively
(relative to Chandraloka) lower planet like
Rahu, which is ordinarily invisible to us
due to its existing in a dimension higher
than ours.
• Trishanku was kicked out by Indra,
when he was trying to enter heaven with
a human body. Therefore Vishwamitra
had to then create a seperate place for
Trishanku by his Yoga Bala.

Varnashrama Dharma:
• Brahman are compared to head,
Kshatriya as arms, vaishaya as leg &
shudra as feet.
• Without Brahman it would become a
headless society, with no orientation
where it is leading.
• There is expected to be a cooperation
between all the classes of men, for
maintaining harmony and prosperity for
each other within the community.
• This mechanism/ system is always

existing in human society, forever, as long
as humans exist.
(This is horizontal sanatan dharma.
Below is vertical sanatan dharma.
We are expected to keep a balance
between both our material life & spiritual
life.)

Sanatana Dharma: Our intrinsic

propensity/ character/ dharma, which is
changeless & is remains innate to us
under all circumstances.
• Your service spirit is there, your loving
spirit is there, but because it is misplaced
you are not happy, you are frustrated, you
are confused.
• Either you change your faith or don't
change your faith, your character is still to
serve, will continue. That is the reality.
• Therefore I have got my service spirit,
and I have to serve somebody. That is my
natural characteristic. You cannot deny it.
(Either we serve God or we serve our
uncontrolled mind & senses)

• Devotional service is always dormant in

everyone's heart, and by the offenseless
chanting of the holy names of the Lord,
one's original dormant Kṛṣṇa
consciousness is awakened.

The complete arrangement by the

supreme complete:
• Somebody accept there is God.
Somebody does not accept. So, there are
two causes. The basic principle is that
God is there, so you either accept or
reject Him. One is doubtful or one is
convinced. God is there.
One is doubtful, he says "There is no
God." My question is why the question of
God is there? Why do they say there is
no God? what is the conception of God?
• Dull matter. It has no necessity. It is dull
matter. And as soon as you have got life,
there is necessity. Without feeling
necessity means dullness. Insentient
matter.
• Presence of necessity means that it's
fulfilment also exists. Otherwise you won't
feel necessity for something that doesn't
exist anywhere.
• Just like when you're hungry you require
food. Food is there.
• The eyes want to see; therefore the
object of seeing is there.
• The hand wants to touch, so the object
of touching is there.
• The nose wants to smell: the object of
smell is there.
• The necessity of light, the sun is there.
• Feeling the necessity of parent, the
parents are there.
• So as soon as you feel necessity, the

thing is there.
• Similarly, if you feel necessity of God,
then God is there.

In a nutshell:
• We obviously know that life exists here
because we exist here. But modern,
reductionistic science claims that life is a
result of chemical combination, but it
cannot demonstrate or explain how life
arises from chemicals.
• Not only can reductionistic science not
explain how life arises, it also cannot
explain why life arises. It offers no
explanation about what the purpose of
our existence is or what the values
guiding our existence should be.
• The principle of humility is vital in
approaching the magnificent works of
God like the cosmos. We cannot expect
to conquer the cosmos with our intellect
and dominate it for our ends. Such an
attitude implies that we are trying to
become all-knowing and usurp God.

O scion of Bharata [Arjuna], O conquerer

of the foe, all living entities are born into
delusion, overcome by the dualities of
desire and hate. [BG 7.27]

One who can control his senses by

practicing the regulated principles of
freedom can obtain the complete mercy
of the Lord and thus become free from all
attachment and aversion. [BG 2.64]

The Surya Siddhanta states:

• The distance between the earth and the
moon as 253,000 miles, compared to
modern measurements of 252,710 miles.
• The Earth’s diameter is 7,840 miles,
compared to the modern measurements
of 7,926.7 miles.

On Thu, 4 Aug, 2022, 11:25 pm

sudarshan,
wrote:
On evolution: You have not studied all

over the world. Has Darwin studied all
the continents on this planet? Has he
gone down into the depths of the seas
and there excavated all the layers of
the earth? No. So his knowledge is
imperfect.
This is the relative world, and here
everyone speaks with relative
knowledge. Therefore we should

accept knowledge from a person who is
not within this relativity.

Stats from the book - 100 years of

nobel prizes:
• The total number of Nobel Prize
winners between 1901 and 2000 has
been 719.
• A review of the Nobel awards
between 1901 and 2000 reveals that
654 Laureates belong to 28 different
religions.
• Atheists, agnostics, and freethinkers
comprise 10.5% of total Nobel Prize
winners.
* (All foundational discoveries &
innovations were made by the theists.
And the atheist scientists of 21st
century have done zero development
into the subject further, except being
cocky in the frontline)

Erwin Schrodinger: ‘I am very

astonished that the scientific picture of
the real world around me is very
deficient. It gives a lot of factual
information, puts all our experience in a
magnificently consistent order, but it is
ghastly silent about all and sundry that
is really near to our heart, that really
matters to us. It cannot tell us a word

about red and blue, bitter and sweet,
physical pain and physical delight; it
knows nothing of beautiful and ugly,
good or bad, God and eternity. Science
sometimes pretends to answer
questions in these domains, but the
answers are very often so silly that we
are not inclined to take them seriously.’

Johannes Kepler: I believe Divine Providence arranged matters in such a way that what I
could not obtain with all my efforts was given to me through chance; I believe all the
more that this is so as I have always prayed to God that he should make my plan succeed,
if what Copernicus had said was the truth.
On Thu, 4 Aug, 2022, 4:27 pm

sudarshan,
wrote:
Thoughts on nihilism:
• Should I kill myself, or have a cup of
coffee? But in the end one needs
more courage to live than to kill
himself. - Albert Camus (nihilist)
• Life is meaningless, but worth living,
provided you recognize it's
meaningless. Albert Camus.

• The realization that life is absurd
cannot be an end, but only a
beginning. Albert Camus.
• The only serious question in life is
whether to kill yourself or not. Albert
Camus.
• I would rather live my life as if there
is a God and die to find out there
isn't, than live as if there isn't and to
die to find out that there is. Albert
Camus.

• as life is meaningless, and staying

under the slavery of uncontrolled
mind is painful, and there's nothing
worth lamenting over the loss of few
chemical fluids (components of
human body/ animal body/ goat
chicken/ buffalo/ fish/ cock etc), so
what's the point in living this painful
existence, why not simply quit?
Anyways it doesn't make any
difference from a nihilist worldview, or
does it?
• Does their ideology & their lifestyle
match with each other? No, they are
still chasing the Mirage in the
material world. They're just
hypocrites.
• if everything is random,
meaningless, inconsequential, there's
there's no point in chasing temporary
pleasures.
• no soul & no afterlife & no hell, this

belief facilitates us to do sin without
guilt, like no other worldview. not
even Islam. Islam at least fears god
while doing sin, while these people
have no reason to not exploit others.
(For example: do the doctors who
steal organs of patients have any
guilt while doing the robbery, Do they
steal for religious cause or selfish
cause? Did the communists had any
reason to feel guilty when they
released the corona virus?)

KC philosophy & lifestyle is joyful

even this very birth/ life.
• Even if you say this happiness is
just a placebo - still i would say that
there's nothing else in the world that
could produce better placebo effect
than this.
• Even from a empirical perspective,
this lifestyle is most ecstatic & eco-
friendly. You lose nothing except
mental problems like depression n
dejection.
• we lose nothing in this process, we
do chanting feasting dancing all day.
And we also don't participate in the
rat race civilization to die a life of
tension n corruption n disease.
• psychology agrees that healthy
association is most conducive for
mental health. There's nothing more

better than the association of
devotees, who are always eager to
render service to each other.

Regarding evidence for soul:

That Jain movie link in sent has
enough data, for you to research
upon by yourself.

Does a skeleton decompose?

• If animals do not destroy or move
the bones, skeletons normally take
around 20 years to dissolve in fertile
soil.
• However, in sand or neutral soil,
skeletons can remain intact for
hundreds of years.
• in Bharat, we would do antim
sanskar, they burn the bodies. They
don't bury the body as the outcasts
do.
• and still, there are lots of human
fossils found, which was purposefully
kept hidden by evolutionary
propagandists. There's a lots of
research done on this, you can go
check it yourself.

Some thoughts on indus civilization

theory:
- since 17 century, the Britishers were
planning & plotting measures to
destroy vedic culture & convert
Indians into their faith.
- Britishers claimed the discovery of
Harappan civilization in 19th century.
(It's strange that neither Indians kings
nor Mughal kings never attempted to
conquer or destroy or make mosque
over there before this time.)
- they also claimed that Aryans came
and destroyed it, because they were
more powerful. Aryan theory a
debunked already.

- why there are no temples found?

we found pashupati sculpture from
Indus, is enough.
- in Indus, if there was gold, then
Britishers would have stolen it. If
there were Indian deities, they would
have removed it, and to prove their
own theory they would have brought
artifacts from Egypt & kept here - like
unicorn images etc.
- even Mughal signs aren't found
over there, which was supposed to
be found - because Mughals would
have had made mosque or some
Qur'an carvings over there as a sign
of their dominance. Maybe that was

also hidden by the Britishers, or else
it would have disturbed their
propaganda.

- sanskrit was a spoken subject, not

written one. The Pali texts on stones
may also be a recent propaganda,
who knows who kept it there.
- Pali words sound like totla/lisp
people trying to speak sanskrit.
Dharma as dhamma, Sindhu as sintu
etc. It's doesn't require rocket
science mastery to understand which
came from what.
- it's strange that the overall human
population was living only in 4 tribal
civilizations & the whole planet was
empty. (Just as in movies, aliens only
see American on this whole planet.
That's how story plot is made by
director.)
- the indus looks more like a
community of outcasts like chandal,
who were kept away from society.
- the dating of indus civilization is a
debatable topic, many people have
different dates for it.
- if Dalits can burn manusmriti in
public, what all could they have
destroyed in background, only idiots
will trust such rascals. Britishers also
are similar propagandists, who steal
things from other countries and don't

give them the due credit, who were
contaminated & spread all sorts of
diseases in whichever place they go.

Mathematics perspective:
- whatever innovation Britishers
made was coming from Bharat: gun
powder was stolen from us,
mathematics & philosophical
concepts also learnt from us.
- We were busy in war with Mughals,
that's why they took all the credits
from the background.
- But anyways, time keeps changing.
Germany overpowered England.
Then USA had overpowered Europe.
Now china is ahead of USA.
- Now we've reached limits of
computers, transistors have reached
size of the atom. And climate is
changing & becoming poisoned. We
have more important battles to fight
in the present.

From evolution perspective:

• Humans existed for lakhs of years,
• and today we can see all the
technological developments
happened within 3000 years of focus
on mathematics.
• It's sounds illogical to think that

Indus residents/ Egypt residents/
ancient tribes couldn't have had
made technological advancements.
• within this millions years of human
existence, it looks totally reasonable
that previously existing humans
should have had much better
technology, on the strength of
mathematical innovation. Which was
probably destroyed due to war/
floods/ pralaya etc.
• But it makes no sense that this is
the first industrial revolution/ internet
revolution in the entire human history
of millions of years.
• It also makes no sense that there is
no conscious life outside our planet,
the fact that nasa found nanobacteria
on Mars is enough evidence to prove
that conscious beings should exist
outside our planet too.

On Wed, 3 Aug, 2022, 2:04 pm

sudarshan,
<sudarshanpillay839011@gmail.
com> wrote:
Why is the literal genealogy not

given in scriptures, from the
beginning until today?
• Because that would distract us

from being in the present & not
allow us to do our activities.
We have limited time of 100 years,

50 years of daylight, 25 years of
occupation & more less time for
ourselves. How much can we study
in this limited scope?
• And what is the use of re-studying

the experience of others, while our
purpose is to actually experience
our own individual life.
• Just within this Kali Yuga 5000

years have passed, and different
things occurred in different time
zones to different people. How
much of their inputs can we grasp
at all, and is it really worth it to
bother on other that much?
• it's better to focus on our

individual tradition/ local
Parampara/ sva - dharma, follow
varnashrama & go into moksha.
Why is there no evidence for God

on the planet?
• Because Kaliyuga is a opportunity

for us to forget god and focus
elsewhere.
• Our forgetfulness doesn't equate

to absence of other realities, it's

just our individual negligence.
• Brainstormer: scientists are

exploring possibilities that we we
might be in a simulated reality.
They even argue that we cannot
really know weather we are in a
simulation or not, unless that input
is fed into our head by the
simulators. Even Elon Musk
speaks out about it, kindly check.
Why age of electronics/ technology

is not given in the scriptures?
• Because we wanted to reject the

authority of someone superior (the
provider), and we wanted to stay
independent (do our things
ourselves). And material world is
present to facilitate that very desire
of misdirected souls.
• We wanted to do our things

separately. We want credits for
ourselves, without that we cannot
experience of feeling to be the
master / owner/ creater of things
which are in our credit.
Did we make computers?
• Yes we made it, at a individual

level. Actually No, we didn't create
it's elements.
• We just did a arrangement of the

electromagnetic force, which
already existed in the world around

us.
• We didn't gave the semiconductor

effect to the metals used in
computers. Nor can we explain the
reason why certain conductors
behave in dual way, giving
presence to semiconductor, without
which computers would be
impossible.
• So what we actually did is just

discovered the possibility of certain
innovation, out of the curious
tendency inside us.
• (Just as Brahma is just the

secondary creator of the Cosmos,
not the source of primary raw
ingredients. Brahma is also here in
bhav sagar due to tendency to play
god/ creator, we're also mimicking
that as a individual level, by
creating virtual worlds in AI
simulation)
Why does curiosity exist inside us?

• Because we are always in search
for something. Search for variety/
discovery/ friend etc. We do it in
pursuit of finding happiness.
• If everything was pre given to us,

then life would have been boring,
there would have been no scope of
joy of discovery.
• we are in search of joy, and the

world is here to facilitate it. (Why

does the world provide us exactly
what we need, is it obliged for
doing it? How does it know what
we require? Why is it not random
due to chance? Why this
correlation exists?)
(If you say natural selection - Does

natural selection also alter our
body mechanism asper outer
environment - then why does death
& ageing exist, why aren't we
immortal?)
Why pralaya exists?
• There are many Demigods. Each

of them is a soul occupying the
post of that Demigod.
• pralaya or shuffle, is just a

arrangement to facilitate different
souls to experience the joy of
seeing things from different
positions/ perspective.
• one soul occupies this position

during this kalpa/ yuga, and then
the next soul gets to experience
dominion over the position in next
yuga/ kalpa.
• similarly, the munis (or modern

day innovators/ scientists), they get
to speculate and create their own
school of thought, from what they
observe in world around them.
They do it from scratch from each
time the refresh button is pressed

(each time destruction happens)
• everything is tuned in a way to

facilitate happiness of different
kinds to us. Provided we do it in a
dharmik way, not in a asuri
pravrutti.
God is the source of technology/

innovation:
• Birds fly, aquatics swim, animals

fight etc. Whatever we have made
through discoveries is nothing but
a small scale replica of what we
see in world around us.
• If these things we're present in

world around us, these ideas for
innovation wouldn't have every
registered in our mind, and we
couldn't have ever attempted to do
anything such.
• Animals act purely out of

impulses, these impulses are
intrinsic to their species, all species
are coming from Brahma, Brahma
was ordered to do creation by Hari.
Brahma was facilitated &
protected. So the real credits goes
to the original cause.
• And also, all the ingredients by

which we build things, is not
created by us, it was already
present in world around us.
• And the most relevant fact is that

nothing belongs to us because we

didn't create it out of ourselves &
we aren't it's controllers. We just
happened to be the users at a
particular instance.
• isa vasayam idam sarvam -

everything belongs to Hari.
• It doesn't matter weather you

believe in Hari or not, just the fact
that nothing belongs to us is
enough reason for us to not
interfere with things around us,
which is not ours. That's basic
morality or etiquette.
• To claim proprietorship over

something not belonging to us is a
sin, it deserves the attention of law
enforcement. Various types of
disasters/ calamities/ disease/
accident is a deserving resulting
reaction for this greed, isn't it?
We are fine tuned to hanker &

search for pleasure. Can modern
science change that wiring? No it
can't.
• And actually, the whole science is

doing nothing except chasing this
tendency of unrestricted sense
gratification, rather than
questioning and endeavouring to
rewire this tendency. It's not their
fault, it's just that they're helpless,
we can't get rid of it by ourselves,
we need a higher level support for

it.
• That's why we need Spirituality.
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On Wed, 3 Aug, 2022, 11:52 am

sudarshan,
<sudarshanpillay839011@gmail.
com> wrote:
My lifetime of research; this is

my conviction & all that I've
learnt till today:

On evolution theory -
refutations:
https://youtu.be/M1sB4W9REJg

Does God exist - debate:

https://youtu.be/0tYm41hb48o

Sanskrit language dating:

https://youtu.be/ZCndkNCXqu8

Reincarnation & heaven in

Buddhism:
https://youtu.be/Mqh94-fC87g

https://youtu.be/n3w5ZUs7ayI

Documented tales of near near

death experience (NDE) and
past life memories.
https://youtu.be/wTEorS_TGVw

The game changers - this

documentary shows facts to
dispel the meat protein myth &
exposes the supplement industry
marketing propaganda.
https://youtu.be/rTGM2KjNGUU
Soil change crisis - what we

need to focus upon, instead of
our own selfishness/ self
obsession. https://youtu.be/
q6nmRISi2lo
Real - Tukaram Maharaj

departure event:
https://youtu.be/4LFfOiwNYfQ

The reasonable thing to do next:

https://youtu.be/9N-lyJP18p8
On prithviraj chauhan cannot

have 300 kg battalion kit? It was
actually only 35 kg total?
* The battle kit of Indian army is
more than what they are telling
of prithviraj.
* Even commandos today do
training of carrying 100 kg weight
for miles, all day long, without
food & rest.
• There are powerlifters lifting 1+
ton weight for reps.
• There are female weightlifters
lifting half a ton for reps.
• Even immature gym goers lift
more than 100 kgs, just after 2-3
years of training.
* (I myself had lifted 140 kgs
deadlift for reps & 350 kg leg
press for many reps, on a
vegetarian diet. You can confirm

this in my local gym)

Hanuman jumped to eat the sun:

• Sun's diameter is large, but
Hanuman was a rudra avatar & a
vayu putra by birth, and we have
episodes from beginning of
Brahma's creation of how the
thousands of rudras went about
doing destruction in all
directions.
• Regarding proof weather it's
logical or not - supernatural itself
means beyond human
computation.
• hypocrisy - Those agnoists
themselves believe in
supernatural events - Buddha
getting enlightenment from
within/ early Buddhists getting
teachings from Buddha via
dreams/ existence of karma
reincarnation heaven etc. From a
scientism perspective, the
teachings of Buddha boils down
to hallucinations, & not a
supernatural enlightenment.

God's omniscience vs our free

will:
• Krishna knew duryodhan's

mentality, yet he went as Shanti
duta.
• Was Krishna unable to
influence his mind & change his
destiny; if he was capable then
why he didn't do it? -> he didn't
do it because he doesn't want to
interfere with individual free will.
• If god was interested in full
fledged dictatorship, then the
world would have been a in
helpless condition, we would be
powerless to endure the
uncompromising infliction.
• If the creator was bent over
malevolence - we could do
nothing except suffer asper his
will.
* At least have some humility by
looking at our vulnerability &
acknowledging his ability.

Why a good god let's evil exist?

Why is he absent?
• Evil is nothing but other
ordinary souls misusing their free
will to cause pain to others
around them.
• For us to realise that we cannot
be happy by staying away from
God & his protection.
• Material world is a opportunity

for envious souls who want to
stay away from the presence of
God. Don't want any interruption
and subordination towards God.
• and when God agrees to
facilitate our desire of getting
seperated away from him,
there's no amount of human
endeavour which can point us to
presence of God - except his
own revelation, by his own
accord.
• is there any better alternative to
fulfill the desires of someone
who wants us to get away from
them (bahir mukha)? While
knowing well that everything is
dependent on you & he cannot
exist without you?
* We came to this material world
by our own arrogance, it's our
responsibility to fix that and get
out of here. Nobody is obliged to
fulfill our desires.
* When everyone envious are
residing in material world, it's not
rocket science that there
wouldn't be any peace over here.
We took this decision despite
knowing well that this place is full
of rascals.
* But yet, out of his kindness, he
sends his representatives to
remind us about him. In every

yuga, in all places over the
world, in different time zones, in
different climate & environment.

How to reunite back with God?

• Simply surrender.
• simply show to God that our
longing for him is greater than
our greed for this world. (Don't
just show, make it real)

What was the religion before

Buddha, were there no
Brahmans before Buddha was
born?
• Buddha was son of a king
(administrative class).
• When he first went out for a
tour, his charioteer addressed his
curiosity on suffering of life from
a perspective of Satya/ papa/
samsara/ karma etc.
• when he was teaching to his
disciples; he interacted with
Brahmans & kings & buisness
men & ordinary workers. (Was
there any other Varna/ class of
people other than these four/ or
even any less Varna than these
four? Doesn't this prove that
Brahman dharma is not a recent
fabrication as claimed by Dalits/

shudras?)
• while Buddhism doesn't talk
about God, they do believe in
lots of demigods & supernatural
beings in heaven. They are in
higher realm means they might
be having higher knowledge &
scope to attain Nirvana than us.
* Varna is not by birth, by
qualities. Just the fact that
shudras can work hard and get
high position in society means
they have other Varna qualities.
And those who are lazy & not
hard working & Lower than
shudra/ chandal - yes, they need
to be kept within their worth, they
shouldn't be given a respectable
position in society, we need
responsible leaders who can
anchor the society who can
sacrifice personal self interest for
the sake of welfare of whole
society - who puts higher
principals before his own
comforts.
* Those who try to learn
scriptures without a Guru, who
are too puffed up to surrender to
guru - it means he lacks humility
& kindness. If such rascals get
into higher position which is
meant to be occupied by
responsible person, then surely

the society will get into chaos.
* If those people honestly want to
learn scriptures, then the best
thing to do unto them would be
killing them & sending them for
reincarnation, so that in next life
they get a suitable position to
become learned & hence could
handle the high position
responsibly.
* Only those people have
problems with the killing of
shambuka, who don't see the
multi-life perspective, due to not
accepting reincarnation.
* Brahmans are not someone
who delight in torturing slaves.
They delight in their sadhana.
Their purpose is to reorient the
focus of the society towards
higher reality, just as the focus of
Kshatriya is to facilitate material
& spiritual harmony in the
society.

Buddhists believe:
* There is no concept of God &
soul, only matter is the reality.
And our existence is just a glitch/
illusion. (Buddha never rejected
god, it's just that he was neutral
over the subject because his

focus was on common sense
moral principles)
* Universe is eternally existing,
and we are supposed to reject
everything because it is
meaningless & painful. (So, are
the supernatural beings in
heaven also in pain? Or did
Buddha ignore this topic too?)
* Laws of karma & reincarnation
exists forever, for no other
reason than imposing repeated
old age disease death.
* Our goal is to give up all
desires & go away into
nothingness shunya. Where
were the prospect Nirvana
candidates (everyone) before
falling into material world?
* Even after becoming
enlightened Buddhists keep
coming back, for the sake of
helping others become free from
illusion/ reality. This is their
occupation for the rest of their
eternity, that's the whole
substance of their Nirvana
existence. (Check: Bodhisattva
vow)
* they have no control over which
species they incarnate into, they
still keep coming & experiencing
old age n disease etc, So what's
the point in helping others when

others will still have to come
back to experience old age etc?
* Despite all his meditation a
Buddhist doesn't gain anything
special over a materialist: both of
them get sick & old, can come
back in any species, require to
depend on grains to stay alive,
yet the materialist lives a more
comfort life while losing nothing.
What difference does it make at
all?
* Why to wait for Nirvana, if your
ultimate occupation is to help
others, then why not start doing
humanitarian activities from this
life itself? What's the point in
waiting for rebirth?

Case study:
There would be many Buddhists
who also got enlightenment in
footsteps of Buddha, who are
repeatedly reincarnating for the
sake of welfare mission:
* then why is there zero
revelation/ awareness about the
experience in realm of Nirvana?
What is the size of universe?
The total population of the
members of Nirvana dham? Will
there come a time where nobody
is left to attain Nirvana?
* Isn't s the boom of technology

superior than Nirvana, because
all Buddhist countries are carried
away with technological
advances, making forget their
actual life aim?
* While Buddhists today are
eating meat, doing sin, least
interested in doing meditation for
enlightenment, very eager to
earn lots of money, fully diluted
out in their determination.. Now
where are the past life Buddhas'
who were supposed to help
others out?

> Blind faith in scientism will lead

to no spritual growth. And
scientism itself is self
contradictory.
(https://youtu.be/JQVmkDUkZT4
)
> Buddhism being non-theistic
(not anti-theistic), cannot give us
anything beyond basic moral
lessons like ahimsa & tolerance.
(https://youtu.be/Vk6up8qVFA4)

On Natural selection:
My view: Why did we not evolve
over our inner anarthas &
destructive drives & unhealthy
hormones - stress hormone,
lipids, cortisol, insulin - knowing

well that it's not suitable for
survival of the fittest? while it is
totally harmful for us, without
having any much benefit.
Shouldn't natural selection have
at least modified these hormones
into more positively functionality?

Is this logical? To eat non veg by

maintaining large scale slaughter
houses and doing cheating &
verbal abuses & injury to others
on one side, and to ask why
we're suffering so much by
stress & depression & dejection,
on the other side? Isn't this
hypocrisy?

Buddha said, doubt everything &

find your own path.
My question: You can go about
doubting everything in your
surroundings, but how can you
find something which you don't
know that you don't know about
it?

Bhaja Govindam
by Śaṅkarācārya:
(the hard reality of our physical
health & mental health &
financial stability & family
relatives;
my view: use material facilities
as tool to attain higher reality,
don't make material
accumulation our final goal
instead)

*भज गोविन्दम् स्तोत्र |*

*– आदि शंकराचार्य*

_भज गोविन्दं भज गोविन्दं, गोविन्दं भज

मूढ़मते।_
_संप्राप्ते सन्निहिते काले, न हि न हि
रक्षति डु कृ ञ् करणे॥१॥_

हे मोह से ग्रसित बुद्धि वाले मित्र, गोविंद

को भजो, गोविन्द का नाम लो, गोविन्द
से प्रेम करो क्योंकि मृत्यु के समय
व्याकरण के नियम याद रखने से
आपकी रक्षा नहीं हो सकती है॥१॥

Worship Govinda, worship

Govinda, worship Govinda, O
fool! The rules of grammar will
not save you at the time of your

death.

_मूढ़ जहीहि धनागमतृष्णाम्, कु रु

सद्बुद्धिमं मनसि वितृष्णाम्।_
_यल्लभसे निजकर्मोपात्तम्, वित्तं तेन
विनोदय चित्तं॥२॥_

हे मोहित बुद्धि! धन एकत्र करने के लोभ

को त्यागो। अपने मन से इन समस्त
कामनाओं का त्याग करो। सत्यता के
पथ का अनुसरण करो, अपने परिश्रम से
जो धन प्राप्त हो उससे ही अपने मन को
प्रसन्न रखो॥२॥

O fool! Give up your thirst to

amass wealth, devote your mind
to dispassion and thoughts of the
Real. Be content with what
comes to you through actions
performed by your own work.

_नारीस्तनभरनाभीदेशम्, दृष्ट्वा मागा

मोहावेशम्।_
_एतन्मान्सवसादिविकारम्, मनसि
विचिन्तय वारं वारम्॥३॥_

स्त्री शरीर पर मोहित होकर आसक्त

मत हो। अपने मन में निरं तर स्मरण
करो कि ये मांस-वसा आदि के विकार
के अतिरिक्त कु छ और नहीं हैं॥३॥
Do not get drowned in delusion,

infatuated with passion and lusty
desires, by seeing a woman's
raised breasts and navel. These
are nothing but a modification of
flesh and fat, and the like. Do not
fail to remember this again and
again in your mind.

_नलिनीदलगतजलमतितरलम्,
तद्वज्जीवितमतिशयचपलम्।_
_विद्धि व्याध्यभिमानग्रस्तं, लोक
शोकहतं च समस्तम्॥४॥_

जीवन कमल-पत्र पर पड़ी हुई पानी की

बूंदों के समान अनिश्चित एवं अल्प
(क्षणभंगुर) है। यह समझ लो कि समस्त
विश्व रोग, अहंकार और दु:ख में डू बा
हुआ है॥४॥

As water drops on a lotus leaf

are unsteady and trembling, in
the same way life in this world is
exceedingly unsteady and
restless. Know that the whole
world is full of miseries, afflicted
by unhappiness and grief.

_यावद्वित्तोपार्जनसक्त:,
तावन्निजपरिवारो रक्तः ।_
_पश्चाज्जीवति जर्जरदेहे, वार्तां कोऽपि न

पृच्छति गेहे॥५॥_

जब तक व्यक्ति धनोपार्जन में समर्थ है,

तब तक परिवार में सभी उसके प्रति
स्नेह प्रदर्शित करते हैं परन्तु अशक्त हो
जाने पर उसे सामान्य बातचीत में भी
नहीं पूछा जाता है॥५॥

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sudarshan 3 August 2022 at

My lifetime of research; this is my conviction & all that I've

On evolution theory - refutations:

Does God exist - debate:

Sanskrit language dating:

Reincarnation & heaven in Buddhism:

Documented tales of near near death experience (NDE)

The game changers - this documentary shows facts to

Soil change crisis - what we need to focus upon, instead of

Real - Tukaram Maharaj departure event:

The reasonable thing to do next:

On prithviraj chauhan cannot have 300 kg battalion kit? It

Hanuman jumped to eat the sun:

• Regarding proof weather it's logical or not - supernatural

God's omniscience vs our free will:

Why a good god let's evil exist? Why is he absent?

any interruption and subordination towards God.

How to reunite back with God?

What was the religion before Buddha, were there no

• when he was teaching to his disciples; he interacted with

* Brahmans are not someone who delight in torturing

* Despite all his meditation a Buddhist doesn't gain

> Blind faith in scientism will lead to no spritual growth.

> Buddhism being non-theistic (not anti-theistic), cannot

Is this logical? To eat non veg by maintaining large scale

Buddha said, doubt everything & find your own path.

*भज गोविन्दम् स्तोत्र |*

_भज गोविन्दं भज गोविन्दं, गोविन्दं भज मूढ़मते।_

Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, O

_मूढ़ जहीहि धनागमतृष्णाम्, कु रु सद्बुद्धिमं मनसि वितृष्णाम्।_

हे मोहित बुद्धि! धन एकत्र करने के लोभ को त्यागो। अपने मन से इन

O fool! Give up your thirst to amass wealth, devote your

with what comes to you through actions performed by your

_नारीस्तनभरनाभीदेशम्, दृष्ट्वा मागा मोहावेशम्।_

स्त्री शरीर पर मोहित होकर आसक्त मत हो। अपने मन में निरं तर

Do not get drowned in delusion, infatuated with passion

जीवन कमल-पत्र पर पड़ी हुई पानी की बूंदों के समान अनिश्चित एवं

As water drops on a lotus leaf are unsteady and trembling,

_यावद्वित्तोपार्जनसक्त:, तावन्निजपरिवारो रक्तः ।_

जब तक व्यक्ति धनोपार्जन में समर्थ है, तब तक परिवार में सभी उसके

So long as a man is fit and able to support his family by

_यावत्पवनो निवसति देहे, तावत् पृच्छति कु शलं गेहे।_

जब तक शरीर में प्राण रहते हैं तब तक ही लोग कु शल पूछते हैं। शरीर

When one is alive, his family members enquire kindly

_बालस्तावत् क्रीडासक्तः , तरुणस्तावत् तरुणीसक्तः ।_

The childhood is lost in attachment to games. The youth is

anyone who wants to be lost (attached) in para-braman,

_का ते कांता कस्ते पुत्रः , संसारोऽयमतीव विचित्रः ।_

Who is your wife? Who is your son? Supremely wonderful

_सत्संगत्वे निस्संगत्वं, निस्संगत्वे निर्मोहत्वं।_

सत्संग से वैराग्य, वैराग्य से विवेक, विवेक से स्थिर तत्त्वज्ञान और

Being in the company of good people (saints) gives rise to

_वयसि गते कः कामविकारः , शुष्के नीरे कः कासारः ।_

होने के बाद संसार नहीं रहता॥१०॥

_मा कु रु धनजनयौवनगर्वं, हरति निमेषात्कालः सर्वं।_

Do not take pride in wealth, friends and youth. Each one of

_दिनयामिन्यौ सायं प्रातः , शिशिरवसन्तौ पुनरायातः ।_

दिन और रात, शाम और सुबह, सर्दी और बसंत बार-बार आते-जाते

Day and night, evening and morning, winter and summer

_द्वादशमंजरिकाभिरशेषः कथितो वैयाकरणस्यैषः ।_

बारह गीतों का ये पुष्पहार, सर्वज्ञ प्रभुपाद श्री शंकराचार्य द्वारा एक

The bouquet of twelve verses was imparted to a

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