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which sage offers in large amounts, plays a role in bone health. A deficiency in this vitamin
is linked to bone thinning and fractures (2, 43Trusted Source).
Fresh sage leaves have a strong aromatic flavor and are best used sparingly in dishes.
Here are some ways you can add fresh sage to your diet:
Dried sage is often preferred by cooks and comes ground, rubbed or in whole leaves.
You can also purchase sage products, such as sage tea and sage extract supplements.
Summary Sage is
incredibly versatile and easy to add to soups, stews and baked dishes. It’s
available fresh, dried or ground.
However, some people are concerned about thujone, a compound found in common sage.
Animal research has found that high doses of thujone may be toxic to the brain (47Trusted
Source).
That said, there is no good evidence that thujone is toxic to humans (48Trusted Source).
What’s more, it’s nearly impossible to consume toxic amounts of thujone through foods.
However, drinking too much sage tea or ingesting sage essential oils — which should be avoided
in any case — may have toxic effects.
To be on the safe side, limit sage tea consumption to 3–6 cups a day (47Trusted Source).
Otherwise, if you are concerned about thujone in common sage, then you can simply consume
Spanish sage instead, as it does not contain thujone (46Trusted Source).
For healers and laypeople in traditional cultures, burning sage is used to achieve a healing state
— or to solve or reflect upon spiritual dilemmas.
This may have some scientific basis, too. Certain types of sage, including salvia sages and white
prairie sage, contain thujone.
Research shows that thujone is mildly psychoactive. It’s actually found in many plants used in
cultural spiritual rituals to enhance intuition.
This may help you establish a positive environment for meditation or another ritual. Choosing to
sit and let go of negative thoughts in a ritual like this sets your intention and dedication to self-
improvement. Choosing to engage in ritual can be the beginning of your change in mindset.
A 2014 study documented white prairie sage (also known as estafiate) as an important traditional
remedy for treating anxiety, depression, and mood disorders in certain cultures.
Some research suggests that sage contains compounds that could help ease insomnia.
Classic garden sage (Salvia officinalis) is sometimes burned like white sage. It’s also been used
to improve sleep and soothe anxiety.
A 2016 review of studiesTrusted Source noted that evidence for Salvia’s cognitive-enhancing
benefits are promising — perhaps to affect dementia and Alzheimer’s disease. Still, more
research is needed.
a sage bundle
some recommend a seashell or bowl of ceramic, clay, or glass to hold burning sage or
capture ash
some recommend matches over a manufactured lighter
optional feather or fan for fanning smoke
There are many types of sage usable for cleansing. Traditional examples include:
white sage (Salvia apiana)
other Salvia species
white prairie sage or estafiate (Artemisia ludoviciana)
other Artemisia species
To support and respect the cultures that developed the practice, purchase sage from native
gatherers, crafters, and artists.
It’s also important to leave a window open before, during, and after cleansing. This allows
smoke to escape.
Some believe smoke also takes impurities and negative energy with it — so don’t skip this step.
1. Light the end of a sage bundle with a match. Blow out quickly if it catches on fire.
2. The tips of the leaves should smolder slowly, releasing thick smoke. Direct this smoke
around your body and space with one hand while holding the bundle in the other.
3. Allow the incense to linger on the areas of your body or surroundings you’d like to focus
on. Using a fan or feather can also help direct the smoke, though this is optional.
4. Allow the ash to collect in a ceramic bowl or shell.
In this instance, direct sage smoke over all surfaces and spaces in your home or living area. Be
thorough.
Some recommend working in a clockwise direction around your home, ending back where you
started, especially for spiritual purposes. Others recommend counterclockwise.
Do what feels best for your situation and follow your intuition.
Cleanse an object
Some people burn sage over special objects, to acknowledge the object with sacred meaning.
Aromatherapy
You can also light and burn sage to improve odor, fragrance, and mood.
Simply waft sage smoke in and around your home. You can place the bundle in a fireproof bowl
or burner and allow it to smoke for a while.
Check the end closely to make sure there are no more embers burning. Once it’s completely put
out, store it in a safe, dry place out of the sun.
Be careful with sage when it’s lit. If you aren’t careful, burns and even fire is possible. Have
water nearby.
Never leave burning sage unattended. Make sure to put your sage bundle out completely after
every use.
Setting off smoke alarms is common. Consider this if burning sage in a public building.
People with asthma and other respiratory conditions may be more sensitive to the smoke and
have adverse reactions.
Always leave a window open while burning sage. Inhaling smoke can be hazardous to your
health.
Keep in mind: Burning sage is a sacred religious practice in some Native American cultures. Treat the
ritual with respect. Also, keep in mind that white prairie sage is endangered, so be sure to only buy
yours from an ethical source.
As for the clary sage: scent wise and in room diffusion this does have really good effect especially around
PMS times and the female reaction to the scent is more favorable at that time. I found positive results all
around and no negatives with me.
I apologize if this is not appropriate for this sub, but I would be very grateful if someone could
help me or point me in the right direction.
Okay, so a bit of backstory... My wife has been diagnosed with Idiopathic Hypersomnia (IH), or
Type 2 Narcolepsy. Which if you're not familiar, is a neurological disorder of unknown cause
with no FDA approved treatments that causes chronic excessive daytime sleepiness among other
symptoms. It has been a long, hard trip to arrive at that diagnosis. Her symptoms have worsened
significantly over the last six months, at one point even leading to a trip to the emergency room
and hospitalization. She has gone from diagnoses of depression, to sleep apnea, to
hypothyroidism, and finally a pituitary tumor, with each being ruled out in turn before she was
finally referred to a neurological clinic with the diagnosis of IH.
As mentioned above, there are no FDA approved drugs to treat IH. There are some drugs being
used off-label to treat IH, but nothing that an insurance company would cover. There are also a
number of clinical trials taking place, mostly using Pentetrazol (PTZ) or other convulsants that
function as competitive GABA-a receptor antagonists. Thujone, infamous for its appearance in
Absinthe (of old), is also a competitive GABA-a receptor antagonist. There has been a fair
amount of research done on Thujone, most likely due to its use in Absinthe, and as a result we
know a good deal about its toxicity and method of action. I think you can see where I'm going
with this.
My wife has taken some herbal supplements, and noticed mild improvement. However, the
quantity required to see an effect isn't tenable long-term. So I'd like to extract Thujone from
Garden Sage as it is easy to obtain and could be grown in quantity. Wikipedia lists sage oil as
having concentrations of up to 50% Thujone, but that isn't properly cited so I have no idea how
accurate it is. Eastern Red Cedar and Wormwood could also be used if they would provide better
starting material. The idea is to arrive at a more concentrated product and test for improvement.
If she starts feeling better, I'll look into paying a lab or chemist to do a professional isolation or
synthesis for me.
Now, I'm definitely not a trained chemist, and my equipment is fairly low tech. So I'm not
aiming to end up with an isolate, but would like to have something as concentrated as possible.
I'm thinking of two ways I may be able to do this, please let me know which would be best or if
either would even work at all.
First:
My main concern here is that I don't know if the Thujone concentration will be high enough to
precipitate out with the addition of water, or if the precipitate will be large enough to seperate
with a filter.
Second:
My main concern here is that I don't have a vacuum distillation rig so I would have to fraction at
standard pressure and I'm not sure if the high temps would damage my product.
Sage (Salvia officialis) is a staple herb in various cuisines. It pairs with veal in an Italian
Saltimbocca or pork in the British sage and onions stuffing and is eaten even on its own, e.g.
battered and fried. So yes, it’s clearly edible. However, personally I would not serve it as a salad
leaf, it’s probably too pungent to be truly enjoyable, but taste is of course personal preference.
There are recipes that use sage in vinaigrette, though.
As the flavor is quite intense and a little goes a long way, most consumers will never nibble on
enough to get in the range where the thujone content matters (similar to the amygdalin in apple
pips). But let’s do a rough estimation to get a ballpark number. The amount of oil that can be
extracted from S. officinalis leaves is between 0.5 and 1 %. That oil can contain up to 50%
thujone, so we can just use the 0.5% as thujone content of fresh leaves. Considering that the
LD50(mice) of thujone is 45mg/kg and that 30mg/kg gives a 0% mortality, a healthy 75kg “average
person” could probably eat 2g of thujone or 400g sage leaves and be fine - but it wouldn’t be a
good idea nevertheless, taste-wise. Excessive, especially habitual/long term use is sometimes
discouraged.
The EU has limited the amount of thujone from sage a food product may contain to 25mg/kg.
That would equal 50g sage leaves in 1 kg prepared food.
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If you were a human-sized rat, it seems that in the worst case, 2 kg of leaves might be enough.
That's a rather handwavy amount, of course.
To go into more depth: the presence of papers like "Toxicity of Salvia officinalis in a newborn
and a child: an alarming report" means that dying from eating sage isn't common - apparently,
two very young children having seizures after ingesting sage essential oil is news enough to get
published as a cautionary case report. So it is unlikely that anybody has ever measured the exact
amount needed for an adult human to die from sage poisoning.
What people have measured is the composition of the essential oil extracted from sage. A good
example is "Composition of the essential oil of Salvia officinalis L. from various European
countries", which makes a good comparison of samples - because of course, there is huge
variation between plants of the same species.
This is of course a very inaccurate calculation, please do not rely on the exact numbers. But if
should give you an idea of the rough range of dangerous amounts.
AKA Sage.
Contains more thujone that wormwood! And less bitter, also containing piny and mentha oils and
many other unique characteristics.
Here's my question, why not just use fresh sage to make a delicious drink, even distill it
yourself? Shouldn't one get a potent thujone drink?
Of course practice would have to be made to use the right about of sage. So what might this be?
Does ANYONE have sage wine or extract links/experience that they would like to share?
I've searched all over the web and I am going to do a multi mint and sage fused into some home
brew wine that I have in the works.
Very interesting folks. I don't want to get "Intoxicated" on thujone for say, just take it in the right
amounts, in the safest way possible. Absinthee, once commercialized because weak, watered down, and
possibly contained very little thujone at all.
I do think that if used correctly, thujone could be enjoyed responsibly from time to time, and I've heard
of plenty of reports with positive overall verdicts.
I will just have to trial and error with this one I guess, really carefully.
Absinthe is hallucinogenic in severe alcoholics only because severe alcoholics are prone to Delirium
Tremens, and DT is worsened by GABA antagonists (Thujone) just like it is decreased by GABA agonists
(benzodiazepines).
Thujone is a kind of stimulant, but an unpleasant one. Combined with alcohol it gives enhanced mental
clarity to the intoxication, making it a bit more psychoactive than stupefying.
My own absinthe gets distilled so that the oils of 25-50gr wormwood herb end up in a liter of absinthe
(just like in ancient recipies) and it does have an extra sparkle to it. However, hallucinogenic it is not,
because I'm not on the verge of DT.