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DISCUSSIONS

On the retrogression of landslides in sensitive muddy sediments:' Discussion


W. J. EDEN
Geotechrrical Section, Division of B~tilditzgResearch, Narional Research Co~rrzcilof Canrtda,
Otmwa, Onr., Canada K I A OR6
Received April 5, 1978
Accepted May 2, 1978

Can. Geotech. J., 15,451-453 (1978)


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The writer was surprised to find himself credited through the rear door of his bus. His description
with the "concept of retrogressive rotational slips" of events clearly leaves the impression of sequential
and would like to disqualify himself from any sug- slips. A similar impression was gained from eye-
gestion that he originated it. This 'concept' is based witness reports of the Nicolet landslide in 1955
on observations of the landsliding process and was (Fig. 1 ). From a study of air photographs taken
documented in 1846 by Collin (1956). In the before and after this landslide, Crawford and Eden
description of the Saint-Jean-Vianney landslide, (1963) were able to trace the sequence of retro-
Tavenas et al. ( 1971 ) report on several eyewitness gression.
accounts including that of a bus driver who escaped In 1973 a spectacular earthflow occurred near
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FIG. 1. Plan map of Nicolet landslide, November 1955.

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FIG.2. Overall view of Chelsea earthflow.


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FIG.3. Upper end of Chelsea earthflow.

Chelsea, P.Q., during the construction of a high- sive slips were carried along by the flow of fluid
way rock fill. The failure of the underlying clay clay and were left stranded in a random fashion.
caused extensive liquefaction, with the fluid clay At the South Nation River landslide, a considerable
flowing down a stream course and becoming im- volume of clay flowed out of the landslide and
pounded against a road fill and railway fill down- down the course of the river (Eden et al. 1971).
stream. Figure 2 is an overall view of the failure. Figure 4 is a view of the downstream end of the
The rock fill is located on the right-hand side of flow and shows that trees have been carried along
the figure and the impounded fluid clay is visible for a distance of nearly 1 km. The upright position
on the left. Figure 3 is a view of the upper end of of the trees can be attributed to the self-righting
the failure and shows that sections of the rock fill characteristics of the trees with the heavy mass of
failed sequentially and movement involved both soil confined by the root system.
rotation and translation. It appears that the succes- These four landslides all resulted in very differ-
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posited in the river near the foot of the slope. At


Chelsea, an extremely sensitive clay was involved
which completely liquefied. Sections of the rock
fill were stranded in a haphazard fashion as they
sunk through the fluid clay. At the South Nation
landslide, there was a surface sand cap and layer
of brown silty clay overlying the critical layer of
sensitive clay. The top two layers were left stranded
in the crater, some being transported considerable
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distances. Because of the thickness and strength of


the top two strata, sections have remained more or
less intact.
It is evident that no one model can explain the
surface pattern left by the landslide. The pattern
is dependent on the original soil profile, the thick-
ness and strength characteristics of the critical
layer, and the topographic detail of the landslide
area. The writer fails to understand why there
should be a link between the mechanism of the
landslide and the resultant morphology. Studies of
the surface pattern left by landslides can be com-
pared to the dilemma faced by a traffic policeman
attempting to determine the sequence of events in a
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multi-vehicle collision on an icy freeway without


the benefit of any eyewitnesses.
FIG. 4. Downstream view of debris from South Nation COLLIN,A. 1956. Landslides in clay. Trcznslated by W. R.
River landslide. Schriever. University of Toronto Press, Downsview, Ont.
CRAWFORD, C. B., and EDEN,W. J. 1963. Nicolet landslide of
ent patterns in the resultant spoil. At Saint-Jean- November 1955, Quebec, Canada. Engineering Geology Case
Vianney, the soil involved was almost all sensitive Histories, No. 4, pp. 45-50.
clay. Practically all the material involved liquefied EDEN,W. J., FLETCHER,E. B., and MITCHELL,R. J . 1971.
and flowed down a stream course and was de- South Nation River landslide, 16 May 1971. Canadian
posited in the Saguenay River. At Nicolet, the soil Geotechnical Journal, 8, pp. 44G451.
TAVENAS, F., CHAGNON, J.-Y., and LA ROCHELLE, P. 1971. The
profile consisted of a fine sand horizon over Saint-Jean-Vianney landslide: observations and eyewitness
moderately sensitive clay. Here the spoil was de- accounts. Canadian Geotechnical Journal, 8, pp. 463-478.

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