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Kumar
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24 Nov 2013, 18.55.36
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Dear All,
Kindly share infos about the weld repair percenatge / rejection rate
with respect to API 650 tank construction. sub-con is calculating on
the basis of repair length divided by total weld length. but the
repairs amy be porosity, tungsten inclusion or other rounded
indications as the case may be. in such cases how we could calculate
the length exactly. also please share why it is not possible by
individual welders too (or how their % can be calculated). i beleive
it is not mentioned by 650.
Thanks in advance,
Kumar

mohd
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24 Nov 2013, 22.08.35
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Sunil,

No need to worry abour porosity or TI..length of repair how much they excavate for repair.is it clear

take welder wise length of welder welded divided by length of repair of that welder.

Length wise repair is best way to avoid confusion between plates and pipe welding by welders.
Rejection rate/repair allowed is defiantly mentioned in your project spec.

regards,
mohd.
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Perumal Govindan
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24 Nov 2013, 21.56.24
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Mr. Kumar, refer below the extraction from API 650, section 8.1.6 further after repair you have to
take  2 spot radiography (of repair areas segment : adjacent weld length of both the sides) of 3 inch
weld length at least. 

For acceptance of rounded indications, refer ASME Section VIII, Division 1, Appendix 4, Section 4.3
Acceptance Criteria for all rounded indications ( porosity, slag inclusion, tungsten inclusion)

P Govindan

8.1.5 Radiographic Standards

Welds examined by radiography shall be judged as acceptable or unacceptable by the standards of
Paragraph UW-51(b) in Sec-tion VIII of the ASME Code.
8.1.6 Determination of Limits of Defective Welding
When a section of weld is shown by a radiograph to be unacceptable under the provisions of 8.1.5
or the limits of the deficient
welding are not defined by the radiograph, two spots adjacent to the section shall be examined
byradiography; however, if the
original radiograph shows at least 75 mm (3in.) of acceptable weld between the defectand any one
edge of the film, an additional
radiograph need not be taken of the weld on that side of the defect. If the weld at either of the
adjacent sections fails to comply
with the requirements of 8.1.5,additional spots shall be examined until the limits of unacceptable
welding are determined, or the
Plate Thickness
mm (in.)
Maximum Thickness ofReinforcement
mm (in.)
≤13 (1/2)1.5 (1/16)> 13 (1/
2
) to 25 (1) 2.5 (
3
/
32
)
> 25 (1) 3 (
1
/8)
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8-4 API STANDARD650

erector may replace all of the welding performed by the welder orwelding operator on that joint. If
the welding is replaced, the
inspector shall have the option of requiring that one radiograph be taken at any selected location on
any other joint on which the
same welder or welding operator has welded. If any of these additional spots fail to comply with the
requirements of 8.1.5, the
limits of unacceptable welding shall be determined as specified for the initial section.
8.1.7 Repair of Defective Welds
8.1.7.1 Defects in welds shall be repaired by chipping or melting out the defects from one side or
both sides of the joint, as
required, and rewelding. Only the cutting out of defective joints that is necessary to correct the
defects is required.
8.1.7.2 All repaired welds in joints shall be checked by repeating the original inspectionprocedure
and by repeating one of the
testing methods of 7.3, subject to the approval of the Purchaser.

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On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Kumar <sk79...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Dear All,
Kindly share infos about the weld repair percenatge / rejection rate
with respect to API 650 tank construction. sub-con is calculating on
the basis of repair length divided by total weld length. but the
repairs amy be porosity, tungsten inclusion or other rounded
indications as the case may be. in such cases how we could calculate
the length exactly. also please share why it is not possible by
individual welders too (or how their % can be calculated). i beleive
it is not mentioned by 650.
Thanks in advance,
Kumar
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Shashank Vagal
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Dear,
You are lucky that this % is based on length and not joints.
General repair % action criteria is this: 
< 1% Tolerable
Up to 1.5% Caution level
1.5 -2.5% Welder needs to be warned
>2.5% Welder to be withdrawn from job and sent for practice
 
With Best Regards,
Shashank C Vagal

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On Monday, 25 November 2013 10:42 AM, mohd <mohd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Sunil,
No need to worry abour porosity or TI..length of repair how much they excavate for repair.is it
clear

take welder wise length of welder welded divided by length of repair of that welder.

Length wise repair is best way to avoid confusion between plates and pipe welding by welders.

Rejection rate/repair allowed is defiantly mentioned in your project spec.

regards,
mohd.

On Sunday, November 24, 2013 11:55:36 AM UTC, sunilkumar kundothara wrote:

Dear All,

Kindly share infos about the weld repair percenatge / rejection rate
with respect to API 650 tank construction. sub-con is calculating on
the basis of repair length divided by total weld length. but the
repairs amy be porosity, tungsten inclusion or other rounded
indications as the case may be. in such cases how we could calculate
the length exactly. also please share why it is not possible by
individual welders too (or how their % can be calculated). i beleive
it is not mentioned by 650.
Thanks in advance,
Kumar
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