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Title Page
Copyright
Introduction
Why Use Tinder?
Your Profile - or The Thing No One Reads
Social Media and Tinder
Always Get a Body Shot
Tinder Settings
Messaging
The First Date
Date Conversation and Body Language
The Good Night Kiss
Sex
Closing Thoughts and Ramblings
About The Author
TINDER DATING SECRETS UNCENSORED
Tips, Tricks, and Secrets for Meeting, Attracting, Dating, and Hooking Up
Using Tinder
by Chris Conn
Copyright © 2015 Chris Conn
All rights reserved.
I played it off very well, but you are putting yourself at a disadvantage by
having one. Some women will automatically swipe right if they see that you
took a selfie or a bathroom mirror photo.
You might be saying, "What do I do if I don't have a good single photo of
myself?" This is not a problem. I suggest two things.
1. Have a friend take a photo of you. This may seem like a weird
request, but just ask a good friend when you are out or even hanging
out at your house. Asking a coworker is another option. Also, if you
have a female friend, ask her. She can be a good judge on how to take
the best shot of you.
2. If you have no friends or are too embarrassed to ask, just take a
photo yourself. To avoid it looking like a selfie, just set the auto timer
on your camera. Even most camera apps on phones have a timer
setting. Try to take it outdoors as well, just avoid taking one in your
bathroom or bedroom.
If you still don't think you are attractive, then try to find pictures that
accentuate your good qualities. If you are good at sports, use a photo of you
being active. Love the outdoors? Then take an outdoorsy photo.
Here are a few examples of good photo options.
1. Group shot with friend. Although, I would not use this as your main
photo.
2. A photo of you in a suit.
3. A photo of you and other women. This shows social proof and that
you are appealing to the opposite sex.
4. Outdoor or action photos.
5. A non serious or goofy picture
I am going to flat out tell you that this is not super important, but it can only
help. My main tip is to keep it short and sweet. Also try to put a little humor
in there as well. I didn't even have a profile or tag line and I still had
success. If you feel you aren't super attractive though, this is an opportunity
to show your charming or witty side.
Social Media and Tinder
Facebook Linking
As you probably know, Tinder links to your Facebook account. Tinder uses
Facebook to access your photos, friends list, and likes.
Mutual Friends
I have mixed feelings about the access to your friends list. I think this can
be great if you are actually looking to date or potentially have a
relationship. Matching with women mutual friends can make it easier to get
to know someone. You can also ask mutual friends about her and she can do
the same with you.
I think it's a bad idea if you are solely trying to hookup. What if one of
these hookups ends in a bad way? You can quickly start getting a bad
reputation with some of your Facebook friends. This is really bad for when
you eventually want to start dating. What if someone you really like gets
told by a mutual friend that you are just a player?
Photos
Currently the only way to upload photos to Tinder is by letting Tinder
access your Facebook photos. I was a little uneasy about this at first. I didn't
want to all of a sudden upload a bunch of selfies and pictures of myself on
to Facebook. I figured my friends would think I was either vain or just an
idiot.
One way around this is to upload a photo, but be sure to choose the option
that it is only visible to you. This will allow you to add photos without them
showing up on your timeline or without notifying anyone else.
Likes
This is the one aspect of the linking to Facebook that can really help your
game. Having mutual likes can help your game tremendously. It gives you
something common that you can bring up and have a conversation with. My
advice is to like as many things as possible. Also, choose a few things you
think a woman might like.
Fake Facebook Account
Yes, a fake Facebook account. This is one option if you don't want anyone
having access to your real Facebook account. In fact, my Tinder account is
linked to my fake Facebook account. You can set one up with a different
last name like I did. This keeps you from showing up in a search and people
seeing you have two different accounts.
Social Media Accounts in General
Don't add anyone at first to any of your social media accounts. There is
definitely a list of apps/sites that you should not add anyone on at first. This
includes Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and especially LinkedIn. Do you
really want some crazy chick you didn't call back knowing where you
work? Trust me on this, there is a lot of crazy out there.
You might be wondering why linking to a woman's social media account is
such a bad idea. We all know that women are obsessed with social media.
Don't we want to be able to connect with them? Shouldn't we feel honored
that this beautiful woman wants to add us as a "friend"?
The answer is not just no...it's HELL NO. Especially with someone you
haven't even met yet or have only seen a few times. I made this mistake
plenty of time when first starting out.
First of all you it allows them too much access into your personal life. You
should try to at least be a little mysterious at first. Do you really want a
woman you don't really know having access to your friends and family.
Most women will immediately begin to Facebook stalk you once added. I
have had female friends admit to me that they have spent hours looking
through a guy's Facebook account.
It will also complicate things if you are trying to date multiple women. Do
you really want to have to explain to Chick A why you were tagged by
Chick B downtown the other night? Especially, when you said you were
hanging with the guys.
There are a few apps and social media sites that I would definitely
recommend. Two of the most popular apps that women love that I consider
safe are Snapchat and Kik.
I am sure most of you are aware of what Snapchat is, so I won't go into
great detail. Snapchat is a simple app that allows you to send pictures or
messages to another user or multiple users. The beauty in Snapchat is that
you can set the picture to "self destruct" in a specified time frame. It is
usually somewhere between 3 to 10 seconds for most women I've
encountered.
Snapchat also is a great tool if you are trying to escalate the conversation
towards sex. Women are more inclined to share risqué photos through
Snapchat because it feels less permanent to them. This doesn't mean to
download Snapchat and start sending out unsolicited dick shots or ask for
nudes right away. You have to learn to ease your way into it. We will go
over this in more detail in the text escalation section of the book.
Kik is also another safe tool. Kik is basically a text messaging app. Instead
of using a phone number, you sign up for a user name. It's mainly for
women who are uneasy about giving a stranger their number right away.
90% of the women who I have asked for their number have given it to me
with no problem. There are a few though that are a little more hesitant and
prefer Kik. That's why I think it's a good idea to have this app already
downloaded and as part of your arsenal.
Always Get a Body Shot
This is one of the most important lessons that you can definitely end up
learning the hard way. I am not trying to be insensitive. I understand that
there is more to beauty than outside appearance. Let's be honest thought, we
are talking about Tinder here.
If a woman does not have a full body shot in her profile, it should be
considered a giant red flag. I feel inclined to mention that I love a woman
with curves. I am not into the stick figure type women. There is a big
difference between being curvy and being obese.
I have found this out the hard way. Let me tell you about Laura. Laura was
a woman I met over Tinder in the summer of 2014. She had a very beautiful
face and seemed like an all around cool chick. She had even said that she
realized she didn't have any body shots, but for me to not to worry. She told
me she was curvy, but in a way that most guys didn't mind. She told me she
had no complaints before.
Let's take a second to discuss the term "curvy". Pardon the pun, but the term
curvy has taken on a completely different shape in terms of online dating.
Curvy used to mean curvy, like an hour glass figure. A curvy woman may
be slightly overweight, but usually in all the right places. In my opinion,
there is nothing wrong with being curvy or having a few extra pounds.
Curvy now means fat, obese, overweight, BBW, etc. It has become so bad
now that real curvy women are afraid to put that on dating profile. The
reason for this is because they are afraid that men will think they are fat. I
have had two friends of mine admit this to me. So, be cautious of the word
curvy.
Back to the story...
We met at a local downtown bar about 10 minutes from my house. On the
way to the bar, she sent me a text telling me she was already at the bar. I
usually try to be the first one to show up, but I was held up late at work.
Once I arrived inside the bar, I immediately spotted her. To say I was
disappointed would be a gross understatement. She was probably 250 to
300lbs. She might have been curvy, but it was one big curve. I started to
wonder if she hired George Lucas to take her pictures, because there had to
be some serious special effects going on there. She did not look anything
like her pictures.
At this moment in time, I had only two options. Option 1 was to make a
run for it. While this seemed to be the easier option, I really didn't want to
hurt her feelings. Option 2 was to just go with it. It was only one date. Plus,
I didn't have any other plans for the evening. So to quote the great Ron
Burgandy, I thought "When in Rome...".
I walked up to the bar said hello and gave her a hug. We ended up grabbing
a booth. She proceeded to sit down right beside me in the booth and
immediately became very touchy and aggressive. She suggested that we
finish up and head to another bar with pool tables.
On the way to her car, she stopped me in front of this large oak tree. She
said, "I want you to kiss me beneath this tree." Again, I just went with it.
At the bar I received a text from an ex girlfriend, Nicole. Nicole and I had
still remained friends even though we had broken up a year earlier. Nicole
asked me how my date was going. I told her not so great. I told her that she
looked nothing like her profile pictures. Nicole responded by saying, "That
sucks. On the bright side, my friend Jackson and I are at this really cool
bar." I put my phone away and left the bathroom to find Laura.
Laura and I decided to check out the other room in the bar with the pool
tables. As luck would have it, there was my ex-girlfriend Nicole sitting at
the bar. Her eyes were wide open and she was trying not to laugh at me.
She would later tell me she kept looking at Laura and the profile photos that
I had sent her earlier in the day. She told me she looked nothing like them in
her opinion. She thought that I should have just walked out in the
beginning.
The date ended up being very awkward and seemed to last forever. The next
day, I sent her a text telling her that I had a nice time, but I wasn't interested
in pursuing anything further. Laura did not take it well. She said, "Well I
just wasn't as pretty as your ex." I just left it at that.
The moral of the story is that although she did not represent herself
honestly, I still should have not proceeded without a full body shot. I may
sound like a complete asshole, but I am just being honest. If you don't have
a baseline for attraction, it is never going to work.
Tinder TIP: This tip is kind of tongue and cheek, but is valid most of
the time. Whenever the girl has only group shot photos, 90% of the
time she is the less attractive one in the picture.
Tinder Settings
Distance
Since Tinder is a GPS enabled app, one of the most important settings is the
distance setting. Tinder allows you the option to set your distance
preference from 1 to 100 miles away. There are a few schools of thought on
this.
Some prefer to set up a large mileage range. The farther you set the distance
range, the larger variety of people will be available as matches. This is
pretty obvious. The main problem with this method is the time and gas
money you could waste meeting someone 50 to 100 miles away from you.
You could just offer to meet halfway, right? If your goal for Tinder is to
hookup, you would want to avoid this. You should be trying to set up the
date either close to yours or her place. The meet halfway option defeats the
purpose.
I would suggest setting up a tighter distance area first. If you find you don't
get a lot of results close by, just keep moving the mileage limit higher. I
would suggest starting with a 10 mile limit, and work your way up from
there.
Age Setting
Tinder gives you the option of setting up an age range of 18 to 50. This is
more of a personal preference than anything. When I started Tinder I was
34 years old. I set my age range wide open. I seemed to have my best
success in the age range of 27 to 35.
If you are just looking for hookups, I would suggest you set the age limit
wide open. Why limit your options? There are a lot of beautiful women in
the 30-50 range. Let me let you in on a little secret, the 30 to 40 year old
range are some of the more sexually experience and horny women you will
find. A lot of these women are fresh off divorce and are out looking to
relieve their wild youth.
If you are using Tinder for a relationship, I would be a little more select. If
you are a young guy in your 20's, you might want to avoid the 30 to 50 year
old crowd. This crowd includes women with a lot of baggage and drama.
You are better off looking for people closer to your age.
Tinder TIP- If you find yourself running out of women on your Tinder
feed, there is a way to bring up more potential matches without waiting
for later. If you adjust the distance setting, it will load more women in
your feed. This works even if you only change it by a mile. It seems to
refresh the feed.
Sex Settings
Before you ask, this means gender setting. There is no option to filter
women by what sexual acts they will perform. Sorry guys, there is no anal
or oral option to filter by.
This will seems simple, but just make sure you have this set correctly.
Tinder does give you the option of choosing to look for men, women, or
both. The funny thing is that I will still get a random guy through my feed
at times. One disadvantage to swiping right on everyone is that you might
match up with someone of the opposite sex.
There are two ways that guys seem to select matches on Tinder. The
majority of men I have talked to will just swipe right on every person. They
will not even look at the profiles. They will just swipe right as quick as
possible until the feed is clear. The advantage to this method is that it will
give you the most set of matches, although some of these matches will be
women you don't find attractive.
The other method is to actually judge each individual result. This method
does take more effort, but it doesn't clog your match result list with women
you don't find attractive.
I would suggest just swiping right on everyone. Not only will it give you
more options, you will also avoid accidentally swiping left on someone you
like. I had done this in the past. Once you swipe left on someone, they are
gone for good. The only way you might see them again on your feed is if
you delete and restart your account, or they do the same.
The First Message
So you've got a match, now what? Getting matched in the first place is only
part of the battle. That's actually the easier part. The messaging process is
the most important and difficult part. Saying the wrong thing can quickly
end your chances with a potential date.
Some women will actually message you first. This is great.
The first message is the most important. 90% of the guys on Tinder will
send a message consisting of...
"Hi"
"Hey"
"What's up?"
"DTF?"
"Hey Sexy"
"Hey beautiful"
Don't be like these guys. Women get hundreds of messages like this. You
want to stand out. Put a little thought into your first message. Below are a
few examples of types of messages to send at first.
1. Send a witty or funny message.
2. Compliment her. Don't just say they are beautiful, compliment
something specific. Tell her she has a beautiful smile, eyes, etc.
3. Comment on something particular in her photos or profile. This
shows her that you actually took time to look at her profile and that
you are sending a true personalized message to her.
I am going to give you a few examples of lines that I found to work very
well.
1. Hi (Insert Name). It looks like we won this Tinder thing. So, what's
the prize? ;)
2. You have way too pretty of a smile not to at least say hi.
3. Do you believe in love at first swipe?
4. Hey, how does this thing work? Are we dating now?
5. What's your favorite dinosaur?
6. Hey (Insert Name), I'm impressed by your taste in men. ;)
7. I like your face
8. Compliment one of her features, not just say she is beautiful.
9. Bring up a mutual like
10. Bring up a mutual friend
Again, for the most part, you want to be light and funny. You don't want to
be overly clingy or creepy sounding. That's why humor works best.
Timing
With Tinder, timing can be just as important as the first message. You
should strike while the fire is hot. Excuse the bad pun there, but it's true.
With Tinder, you will get greater success if you respond pretty quickly after
you get the match notification. Women get a lot of Tinder matches,
especially since most guys' swipe right on everyone.
Replying soon after the match, will insure that you wont get lost in the
shuffle with the hundreds of other guys on her match list. Plus if she swiped
right on you last, you know she is actively using Tinder. So it's a good time
to try to catch her.
Tinder TIP: If you are just looking to hookup, you can use really use
this method to your advantage. I have had success late on Friday and
Saturday nights messaging girls. It's almost like waiting outside a club
at closing time. A lot of time you will match with girls that are lonely
and it gives you a decent shot of getting invited over her place or her
coming to yours.
Copy and Paste Messages
If you don't know what this means, it is when you copy the same message
and send it to a number of different women. Copy and pasting messages can
be a time saver, but you need to proceed with caution. They can definitely
do more harm than good, especially if the woman catches you in the act.
Even if I am copying and pasting, I still like to add a bit of customization.
Just adding the girl's name can make them feel that the message is just for
them. Just make sure you don't forget to change the name. I will show you a
couple of my epic fails below when I was first starting out.
As you can see, I tried to play it off.