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In this book, novel approaches to various fields of governance on the interface between
science and society are presented. These approaches include new ways of managing
scientific uncertainty, new modes of interaction between citizens and experts, and new
forms of public participation. The theoretical foundation of these innovations is to be
found in a variety of new research fields, including:
● Complex systems research
● Ecological economics
* This chapter is based on the breakout session ‘Pros and Cons of Messy Governance’ held during the
Interfaces between Science and Society workshop in Milan, November 2003. Contributions made
by the session speakers Jerome Ravetz and Moses Boudourides, and the session rapporteur Sofia
Guedes Vaz, as well as numerous other session participants, have had a profound influence on the
form and content of the chapter. However, the views and opinions expressed should be attributed
to the authors only.
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that there is not much experience yet with putting them into practice. Second, our own
ideas typically include the general insight that experts should not be trusted too much,
and that things are more complicated than a theory can express. How much should we
be trusted? How much do we simplify things in our theories and approaches? At the
expense of what and whom?
The conclusion of the chapter is that we are entitled to promote our ideas and
approaches if and only if we combine them with the virtues of modesty, sincerity and
openness, and do not try to hide our own vulnerability. Promoting an approach does
not preclude you from listening to others and being ready to set a side your own pro-
posal for other reasons, perhaps even if you still believe in your own theory. Indeed, it
is exactly this attitude that is required by complexity theory.
for this diverse, but interconnected bundle of theoretical developments. For lack of a
better word, we shall call it complexity theory.
Strongly linked to the development of complexity theory, there has been a simulta-
neous development of novel approaches to management and governance. Indeed, this
book is largely devoted to the presentation of such approaches and to their foundation
in some part of what we just labelled complexity theory. Thus, various strands of com-
plexity theory have been taken to suggest or imply the introduction of means for the
analysis and communication of uncertainty. Above all, however, complexity theory is
taken to be a theoretical foundation for the introduction of participatory approaches,
ranging from community-based research and the recognition of non-academic or non-
expert knowledge to new forms of deliberative democracy and ‘inclusive governance’.
Only to a slight extent have these novel approaches to governance gained any sig-
nificant terrain. Enlightenment decision-making structures based on a combination of
expert advice and representative democracy still tend to dominate, expecting ‘science
to speak truth to power’. This should be no surprise. If it is true that the focus on uncer-
tainty and participation is founded on recent insights into complexity, the mere fact
that these insights play only a minor role both within and outside the academic world
is sufficient to explain why most institutions and practices of governance have still not
been reformed according to the convictions and desires of complexity theorists.
Indeed, from the point of view of those not convinced of complexity theory, the novel
approaches might seem unnecessary, untidy and inefficient. Why conflate expert advice
with public opinion? Why spend time on sophisticated uncertainty management tech-
niques instead of plainly trying to eliminate that uncertainty? Why delay decisions with
possibly incompetent discussion groups and other time- and resource-consuming pro-
cedures? To those not convinced of the desirability of the novel approaches, it might
seem that they would imply a risk of transforming an agreeably imperfect but at least
efficient and streamlined technocracy into an anarchic and unprofessional mess. In
order to bear in mind this concern, we shall somewhat humorously denote the bundle
of novel governance approaches messy governance.2
Like most other theorists and practitioners, complexity theorists and messy gover-
nance practitioners put a considerable effort into arguing why their theoretical per-
spective is important and why their novel approaches ought to be implemented. This is
a reasonable strategy. From a conviction that one’s theoretical arguments and practical
approaches may contribute to a more meaningful or somehow better governance, it
seems proper to try to convince others and to change the world in what one considers
an appropriate direction. In that case, one needs forceful arguments.
On the other hand, be it from a complexity theory point of view or simply from com-
mon sense, we believe in the philosophical postulate that every analytical perspec-
tive—complexity theory included—has its weak spots. In one’s enthusiasm over nov-
elty it may be tempting to gloss over the weaknesses, or at least not focus too strongly
on them yet, until one has gained some power. We believe that such a temptation must
be overcome and that a thorough discussion of one’s weak spots may strengthen one’s
2 The messiness of ‘messy governance’ thus resides in its externally perceived untidiness and ineffi-
ciency, although it may appear coherent and consistent with its theoretical foundation, as viewed
by its proponents. This differentiates it from the otherwise similar notion of ‘clumsy solutions’ as
conceived by Thompson and Price (2002).
6. reflexivity and modesty Strand and Cañellas-Boltà 107
position. First, showing our doubts and weaknesses would be consistent with the norm
of transparency, which often is regarded central in the novel approaches to governance.
Second, one should not exclude the possibility that one’s own doubts and one’s oppo-
nents’ apparently uninformed criticisms actually are quite related. Showing our doubt
might perhaps be a first step towards accommodating and understanding external crit-
icism.
There can be many doubts about complexity theory and messy governance. There
are almost as many different opinions within the conglomerate of complexity theories
as there are authors and the novel approaches to governance are still far from being evi-
dence-based in any sense of the word. Nevertheless, the focal point of this chapter is
one particular doubt regarding the nature of the relationship between complexity the-
ory and messy governance. Specifically, we shall ask about the justification of messy
governance and if it can be justified by complexity theory.
The reason is that there may be something special about complexity theory that
makes the justification particularly difficult. The suspicion to be examined is essentially
the following: In the Enlightenment tradition, it was generally assumed that knowl-
edge tells us how the world really is, and that knowledge can be applied by simply using
it as a map of the world. For instance, Francis Bacon (1620) explained that: ‘human
knowledge and human power come to the same thing, for where the cause is not known
the effect cannot be produced’ (Book I, Aphorism 3). The scientific expert, then, is the
one who has discovered the true causal relationships in the world and, when we want
a particular effect, we simply ask the expert how to cause the effect and follow the pre-
scription given. Now, complexity theory typically criticises the Baconian and Enlight-
enment ideas for being too simple. The relationship between knowledge and the world
may be vastly more complicated; hence one should not naively believe experts and
implement theory.
The self-referential problem is pressing. If part of your theory is that it may be a bad
idea to trust experts and directly implement their theories, why should society listen to
your (complexity) theory and implement your suggestions of messy governance? What
could ‘justification’ mean from within complexity theory? That is the philosophical for-
mulation of the issue at stake in this chapter. The practical formulation, closely related
but not equivalent to the philosophical one is: what (positive and negative) surprises
could arise from the introduction of messy governance? In Martin O’Connor’s words:
‘Which human and social agencies will be repressed by complexity theory and messy
governance?’3 Which approaches and lines of action will be encouraged, invented, jus-
tified and reinforced? Which other lines of action will be underestimated, discredited
or forgotten?
We said above that, because there is no general agreement on this point, there may
be something special about complexity theory. Above all, it would depend on one’s
notion of complexity. The next section will clarify this point, distinguishing between
‘thin’ and ‘thick’ complexity. Next, we illustrate the general problem by the use of a case
study—a research project studying environmental management in northern Norway.
Drawing on this case study, we argue that complexity theory might be applied in a
reflexive manner if combined with the appropriate set of norms and attitudes, includ-
ing modesty and openness, both in a personal and an emotional sense.
3 As quoted from the discussion of the breakout session on the ‘Pros and Cons of Messy Governance’.
108 interfaces between science and society
cal reflexivity, while on the other hand developing, say, technical solutions for uncer-
tainty management or inclusive governance (perhaps even including a software pack-
age).
There is nothing necessarily wrong with this. The challenge, however, is to meet (or
anticipate) outsider, non-complexity theory expectations that such solutions can pro-
vide the uniquely correct answer and a ‘technical fix’. For instance, we may develop a
multi-criteria software model, which according to our theoretical position ought to be
regarded as nothing but one heuristic device among many in a social participatory
process. Its actual reception by citizens and policy-makers, however, may be less reflex-
ive. The perception might not be avoided that it is a new expert device to ensure the
rationality of the decision-making process, and its actual mode of employment may be
strongly informed by that expectation. In Enlightenment thought about science and
technology, one would typically immunise the science from responsibility for such
unexpected use (or more generally its unexpected effects) by denying any guilt and
rather blaming the end-user as misusing the technical solution. This mechanism of
deflection, however, is exactly one of the central targets of criticism by complexity the-
ory, which typically prescribes a change of focus from guilt and blame to caution, pre-
caution and acceptance of co-responsibility. But then the same ought to apply also to
the application of complexity theory, which accordingly has to be judged not only in
terms of theoretical justification, but also in terms of actual practices in the interface
with society.
We ought to comment on our use of the term ‘complexity theory’, which may be crit-
icised for being unusual or strange. In our attempt to reflect on the shortcomings of
what we have called Enlightenment thought about the relationship between science
and society, and the distinctions between observer and participant, subject and object,
and facts and values, why do we not simply identify ourselves as ‘postmodern thinkers’
or ‘postmodernists’? It is true that there are resemblances between the endeavour of
this chapter and, say, the relationship between Lyotard’s (1984) diagnosis of the post-
modern condition and its implications in terms of virtues as reflexivity, tolerance with
plurality, flexibility, humbleness and the need to put one’s own agenda at stake in the
encounter with one’s opponents/fellow beings, as reflected in the writings of Richard
Rorty, Zygmund Bauman, Emmanuel Levinas and many others. On the other hand, the
uses of the word ‘postmodern’ are now so many that it is as empty as ‘modern’. Neither
do we think that one has to agree with Lyotard’s diagnosis to follow the argument of
this chapter. Lyotard attempted a deep analysis of broad underlying patterns of change
in the Western mindset regarding our ways of justifying knowledge and types of knowl-
edge. What we describe are tensions within the perspectives we call complexity theory,
felt by us as aspiring theorists and practitioners in the field, tensions created from the
difficulty of justifying action from one’s belief in having adequate knowledge. These
tensions are, on one hand, a more local phenomenon than what Lyotard intended to
capture; some would argue their strength depends on exaggerated intellectualism. On
the other hand, such tensions have been felt important for a long time. To stretch the
point, we may say that they have motivated most of Western philosophy since pre-
Socratic philosophy.4
4 Though often framed as the issue of theoretical inconsistency and paradox, such as in Plato’s Par-
menides.
110 interfaces between science and society
So far we have stated the problem of this chapter in fairly abstract terms. Although
possible, it has strong limitations as explained above. To be able to pursue the issue fur-
ther, we contextualise it by looking at a concrete case. The example is chosen from our
own empirical research on the environmental management of dredging in polluted
harbours in northern Norway.
What we found was an array of sources of strict uncertainty and ignorance, for exam-
ple on the possible local effects of tributyl tin (TBT) spread in that particular site, as well
as in the calculations underlying technical proposals. Little if any of the uncertainty or
the (lack of) quality of the information was documented, communicated or discussed
during the case. Neither did there seem to be much explicit discussion or negotiation
of the specific framing of the issue, i.e. as a question of the risk of spreading pollutants
during dredging, rather than the hazards involved in the planned disposal of the mate-
rial in a landfill in an inhabited area, or the hazards involved in the alternative of sim-
ply letting the pollution stay where it was. Instead, it appeared that, in the negotiations,
the underlying differences between the actors (in terms of perspectives and stakes)
took the shape of a dispute over technical solutions, expressed as beliefs and doubts
towards the silt screen or a proposed surveillance programme based on turbidity mea-
surements.
We have previously interpreted this as an underlying difference on the level of what
Ravetz <reference?>called the ‘practical problem’, defined as ‘what we really want, for
which purpose’, though actually negotiated as if it were a mere disagreement about
technical solutions. In accordance with our theoretical perspective, we performed
interviews and discussions with citizens of Ballstad, in order to understand their
life–world and values, as a retrospective exercise something that from the post-normal
perspective one would have wanted to be included in the management proceedings
themselves. To put it more plainly, if the case in part was a question of values, the peo-
ple ought to have been consulted and heard.
The purpose of our research is then not only to document what happened at Ballstad
and in other cases, but to provide public environmental managers with an improved
understanding and sensitivity of issues of uncertainty, quality and complexity, as well
as with some clues about how to operationalise such a sensitivity. For instance, we hope
that our analysis of the technical information in the Ballstad case provides an example
for environmental managers to follow in order to detect and present various sources of
uncertainty. Furthermore, we hope that our way of organising a debate with the citi-
zens of Ballstad might have been an example to follow. The regional environmental
authorities have indeed said that they have found our research interesting in this sense.
Yet it is clear that our approach is but one of many possible approaches. Instead of
our focus on the cognitive content of the information and discussion about the biolog-
ical effects of the particular pollutants in the harbour basin (and in particular the
aspects of uncertainty and quality), one might have studied the case from a political sci-
ence perspective, focusing on the relationships between the involved institutions,
including their power relations. Alternatively, the negotiation process could have been
studied in terms of its own internal dynamic rather than in terms of its cognitive con-
tent, which we ourselves actually showed to be full of uncertainty of various kinds. And
so we may continue. Obviously, the conclusions would then have differed and so one
would expect the implications to do, i.e. the implications likely to be drawn from the
conclusions, either by us or by others.
Indeed, one may ask oneself as a researcher (and that we did many times) why one
is doing such a study as we did at all. The conflict was over—solved by the actors them-
selves without our help. Our analysis may be perfectly correct, but the value of the
more or less strictly deduced implications of it remains unknown. And at the local level
of Ballstad, our study, however meticulously planned and cautiously carried out, meant
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a certain intrusion into the society. For instance, one local actor did not approve of our
questions about the way the issue had been framed. Our academically motivated ques-
tions about the focus on the risks of the dredging operation and not the environmental
aspects of the landfill disposal, were perceived by this person as an act of questioning,
creating suspicions and public anxiety about the safety of the landfill, which was to be
used as new land property. Although we have seen no indication of any significant anx-
iety in this direction, we cannot exclude the possibility that this person is right. Indeed,
rather than claiming researchers’ privileges to ask freely and innocently, we tend to
acknowledge the person’s point, and rather defend our action based on our environ-
mental science-informed belief that the landfill might be a potential environmental
problem in this case, justifying some public awareness. In other words, we resorted to
a normal science belief to justify a post-normal research strategy.
More profoundly, we often seem to end up in Enlightenment models of justifying our
research, along the following lines. The actors did sort out their conflict themselves,
but listening to our analysis, they may be enlightened by a deeper understanding of the
aspects of uncertainty and quality, and this will make them manage better. The ques-
tion is then what we mean by ‘better’—more efficient, more in accordance with the
desires of the actors themselves, better in terms of environmental protection, fairer,
more rational? Often it seems that ‘better’ is thought of as ‘with less conflict’; again,
however, strands within complexity theory itself may warn us that both this and the
other mentioned values can be highly problematic because the values themselves may
be in conflict. In a given context, an escalation of conflict might be desired if environ-
mental protection or local democracy is assigned the highest value. To decide what is
‘better’ may be at the heart of the issue.
To sum up, there are considerable problems in justifying a research project such as
the Ballstad case study. This does not imply despair; there are various ways of justify-
ing the approach, it is just that they are problematic. Bearing this case in mind, we are
now ready to decontextualise again in order to proceed with our reflection.
or that it obeys the rule that it sets out. The reflexive position is accordingly to say that
the social constructivist theory itself may become accepted and hence true, or rejected
and hence false. In the so-called ‘chicken debate’ in the sociology of science—named
after the paper Epistemological Chicken by Collins and Yearley (1992)—there is an inter-
esting discussion about the virtues and problems of such degrees of reflexivity. Again,
to simplify matters, to Collins and Yearley, reflexivity implies a weakening of one’s own
programme to the extent that the radical potential of the theory is lost.
The ‘chicken debate’ is instructively documented elsewhere (Pickering 1992). It is
interesting to reflect how a constructivist/relativist stance may be defended, and how
one could proceed to claim some epistemic authority for it. Basically, we think that
there are two lines of argument available—one having an external and possibly unre-
flexive flavour and the other to be seen as internal and more reflexive. We would like
to stress that neither of these are identical to the actual positions in the chicken debate.
itself will result in more adequate knowledge than research initiated and carried out
by, say, the government.6
The point to which one is willing to accept standpoint theory is important in our dis-
cussion. An intellectually trivial version of this kind of thinking is that which claims that
the government or the ruling classes are corrupt liars, and accordingly one should base
oneself on the research done by the uncorrupted. This has little to do with complexity
and more to do with more or less sectarian activism. Another version, compatible with
Enlightenment thought, is that one needs, say, community-based research to discover
and solve the particular problems experienced in the community. In current policy dis-
course, this can be translated into the idea of ‘user involvement’. One arrives at the cru-
cial point, however, when one claims that in an otherwise equal intellectual disagree-
ment between the ‘privileged’ and the ‘unprivileged’, the view of the unprivileged
person per se carries more authority. Exactly at that point conflict and ambitions of
power are chosen at the expense of reflexivity, modesty and inclusive dialogue. We do
not say that such a choice is always or even usually wrong; however, it is based on an
assumption of moral simplicity—that it is possible to divide people (or other entities)
into privileged and unprivileged, oppressors and oppressed, and perhaps also good and
evil. Returning to Ballstad, such a classification would have been completely out of the
question: we had absolutely no reason to believe in any difference in moral qualities
among the actors.
6 We were reminded of standpoint theory during discussions about community-based research dur-
ing the Interfaces workshop.
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ner? Is there a danger of creating a new source of opacity in the technicalities involved
in the sophisticated design and calculation of a NUSAP expression or a table as pre-
scribed by Walker et al.? When, and under what circumstances, will ‘extending the peer
community’ actually help to solve the problems that it was supposed to solve? In the
link between complexity theory and messy governance, is it assumed a too idealist pic-
ture of what lay participation is and can be in a world of interest groups, power politics
and intellectual dishonesty? Can one have a stakeholder panel working with back-cast-
ing techniques if some of the stakeholders are armed and insist on bringing the arms
with them?
By asking these questions, we do not wish to make the rhetorical point that com-
plexity theory is to be considered politically naive. Rather, we think that the questions
have an empirical nature. Of course there is no guarantee that the connection between
complexity theory and messy governance will hold in all cases. What is needed, then,
is a process of learning by experience, gradually understanding criteria of success and
failure. For instance, in the Ballstad case, both we as researchers as well as most of the
main actors themselves were in a state of authentic doubt about what the facts meant
and what ought to be done in the dredging case. This is a different from a situation in
which the researchers and/or the actors think that the facts, values and uncertainties
should be taken to imply a particular technical solution or a particular prioritisation of
values. Such differences are relevant both to the choice of messy governance interven-
tions and to the justification of the choices.
In a learning process of this kind, we might need to reconsider values and not only
our anticipations in terms of facts. A pressing issue is that of the acceptability of non-
violent conflict. If one recalls the scandal on BSE (mad-cow disease) in the UK, this is
sometimes evoked as an instance of how badly things may go if experts are allowed to
proceed in a technocratic, non-transparent manner, with broad public distrust as its
consequence. On the other hand, on a different time-scale, one might think that the BSE
scandal indeed was a fruitful event, raising a lot of public attention and participation
in risk issues, leading to institutional changes as well as a lot of inspiring research.
Indeed, if routines of uncertainty management and citizens’ participation had been
implemented into the UK system before the BSE event, one might not have had the pub-
lic attention and participation one actually got.
Thus, one may speculate that after all messy governance is quite rationalist, with an
inclination for planned, prescribed and orderly processes rather than, say, lobbying,
demonstrations in the streets, public revolt or other informal and/or chaotic ways of
acting and communicating. It appears that our theoretical contributions by their very
nature promote values such as intellectual honesty, emotional positivity, co-operation,
rational debate and patience.7 Although these values are hardly controversial from an
abstract, philosophical point of view, they are far from uncontroversial in certain given
political contexts. One may note that this reflection on content, recalling that com-
plexity theory itself would predict an essentially open-ended relationship between the-
ory and practice, leads us into the aspect of form, or, as formulated above: what does
it imply to propose and defend a theory or a theoretical perspective?
We have already noted that in our context of (thick) complexity theory, it could not
7 This point is due to contributions made by Moses Boudourides during the breakout session on the
‘Pros and Cons of Messy Governance’.
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to talk more simply about the things in the real world. The latter is of course our inten-
tion.
Returning to Ballstad, it appears that we put forward quite weak arguments when we
were accused of intrusion by one of the actors in the community. Not equipped with
truth or exclusive epistemic authority, not solving their problem, not being able to give
a promise of improvement of practice—what were we doing? As noted above, we actu-
ally resorted to a defence—perhaps above all to ourselves—based on a ‘normal science’
evaluation of the situation. It was true that our questions about the pollution in the
dredged sediments could be perceived as questioning the projects involved in con-
structing new property out of the landfill masses. However, drawing on our natural sci-
ence competencies, we considered it defensible to run that ‘risk’ because we thought
the safety of those masses could actually be a relevant issue. This makes a difference.
If the questions had been raised about a potential environmental hazard that we our-
selves considered completely irrelevant or unrealistic, the intrusion would have been
harder to justify—at least to ourselves.
This line of reasoning flies in the face of standard methodological virtues in social
science. No ‘good’ sociologist or anthropologist would ever approach a community with
assumptions of what is actually the case. Then again, traditional conceptions of
methodological disciplinary quality might have too idealist a view of the possibility and
desirability of being a ‘neutral observer’.
There are several noteworthy observations to be made in this respect. The first one
is that our complexity theory-based reflections above forced us into also employing a
natural science-based perspective in the consideration of what was at stake at Ballstad.
Next, we saw that the same consideration implied a deviation from methodological dis-
ciplinary virtues (of social science in this case). The modesty implied in the reflexive
application of complexity theory accordingly involves the recognition that the per-
spective is not even intrinsically self-sufficient, but also that one cannot always hide
behind disciplinary authority when a trans- or un-disciplinary approach is required.
The final point we need to make is that of the understanding of the role of the com-
plexity analyst, theorist, researcher or practitioner as an intruder.
We believe that it is clear from the analysis throughout this chapter that the justifica-
tion of our intrusion cannot be made entirely in terms of intellectual authority. We do
not possess the truth about the facts or about moral qualities. This is to say, when jus-
tifying our actions, we cannot hide behind intellectual authority. We have to stand for-
ward as persons (or groups), possibly with a more or less pronounced intellectual inter-
est, or a social cause, or both intertwined.
There are several ways to conceive the relationship between the intruder subject and
those exposed to the intrusion. Sometimes the relationship is completely unproblem-
atic. The community invites the researchers and all stakeholders agree that this is a
good idea for the same reasons as the researchers themselves. In the Ballstad case, we
were indeed generally welcomed by almost all the actors; in the process of recruiting
informants, people who had previously been to some degree in conflict, agreed that it
was a good idea to welcome ‘an external viewpoint’. In general, however, one cannot
assume an unproblematic relationship. One unrealistic vision of the relationship could
then be to surrender completely one’s own agenda, letting the community take you
wherever they want. Within action research, such a vision has been criticised by the slo-
gan ‘synergy, not sympathy’. Intruder cannot and should not deny their agenda; what
6. reflexivity and modesty Strand and Cañellas-Boltà 119
has to be sought is a synergy with the community (or in general, those experiencing the
intrusion).
Although it is hard to disagree with the call for synergy, we think that it ought to be
combined with a readiness to put one’s agenda at stake as part of the issue, as part of
the learning process. Although we still fail to understand what creates socially robust
knowledge and practice, we might claim to know that many historical instances of
oppression and cruelty have had proponents who were unwilling to admit own fallibil-
ity or renegotiate their own agenda along the way. Sympathy understood as surrender
to pain is futile; however, we cannot see any methodological problem with sympathy
or empathy understood as an effort to open oneself up to others’ perspectives, values
and life-worlds in order to learn and possibly modify one’s own perspectives and val-
ues. Sometimes the activity of openness will require openness also in language, not
only with regard to disciplinary or lay-expert divides, but also across the range artifi-
cially divided into the cognitive and the emotional domain. This does not imply a sur-
render of one’s own agenda, intellectual interest or social cause. It only implies that one
stands forward with the agenda, being a citizen oneself. Indeed, the willingness to
enter into emotional discourse is not just a matter of reflexivity (recalling that com-
plexity theory typically makes more complex Hume’s distinction
<reference?>between reason and passion) but also a matter of justification and legit-
imacy.
Our reflection has arrived at the insight that complexity theory and prescriptions of
messy governance cannot be theoretically justified by themselves. Rather, it is the act
of proposing and performing these perspectives and practices that can be justified.
These acts are the acts of persons, and part of the justification is connected to their
intent and intentionality. If we have done away with unconditional Enlightenment trust
in rules, theories and expertise, how could one accept the intent and agency of people
if they are unwilling to display their vulnerability and put themselves and their agenda
at stake in a personal encounter?
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