Breakthroughs In Light Medicine_ Treating Dementias And

Pain

The event is being recorded and it will be available in a couple of weeks as a podcast.
So without further ado, the program we're going to hear today is called Breakthroughs in
Light Medicine, Treating Dimensions and Pain.

And we're really fortunate to have two expert speakers. Len Sepudo MD is a board
certified in internal medicine and he has pioneered the development of integrative,
holistic, person -centered and preventative healthcare model, which he calls health
medicine.

He founded the Health Medicine Forum and has 20 years of experience working with
light therapy and over 50 years practicing medicine. Maurice Bayos is an electrical
engineer who holds the first US patent and FDA clearance for a light machine.

He was awarded five grants from NASA while working on the space shuttle and has
been employed by UC Berkeley to mentor PhD students in fusion physics. for two
decades. So without further ado, I'll hand the program over to Len.

Introduction
this is a great opportunity for us to introduce a new era of medicine. We're looking at a
way to bring light into the practice of medicine, and it does things that I never would have
suspected when I went to medical school.

But that all changed when I met Maurice Bales. Maurice has been an inspiration for me,
and he has a background in physics that you need to be able to do this kind of medicine.
And when we initially met, it was very interesting because I was reading kind of what I
call a throwaway medical journal, and it had an ad in there that talked about what light
did.

And I looked at it, I thought, oh, sure, if that's really true, then everybody would be using
light because it says it does all these incredible things. And I was about to throw it out
and I noticed that he left his phone numbers in the same area code as mine.

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And so I thought, well, I'll just give him a call because at the time I was interested in
integrative medicine, I thought I should pursue all the things in integrative medicine that I
can because I'm an integrative practitioner.

So I called up Maurice and I introduced myself and he kindly says, thank you. Why did
you call? And I told him what I read and I said, it sounds like it's baloney to me, Maurice.
It just sounds too good to be true.

And he said, you know, you sound like everybody else. You got the same thought that
it's too good to be true. And so you don't even want to take a look at it. I said, well, you
got a point there. So we decided that we would get together.

He invited me to bring over a couple of patients to his office and he would show me what
he would do with light. Well, one of the patients had multiple sclerosis and he got out of
his bed and managed to get over to his office and Maurice treated him for about 15
minutes.

And as the man walked in, he was all hunched over it and you could see he was in pain.
He was grimacing with every step. And in 15 minutes, he is almost upright and he had a
big smile on his face. He said, what did you just do to me?

It's amazing. And so with that, we treated the second patient. He got better too. And then
Maurice looked at me and he said, do you want to do more of this? I said, sure. So he
says, well, why don't we get together for the next couple of months?

You bring some patients over between five and seven on Mondays and Wednesdays
and Fridays. And bring two or three patients and we'll treat them and you see what
happens. Well, I brought all kinds of patients over there.

And over that period of time, nearly all of them got better. And at the end of it, he said,
gee, what do you think now, Mr. Smart Guy? And all I could say is thank you, Maurice.
How did you feel about that?

What we went through, Maurice? Well, I thought it was an opportunity to show our new
technology. At the time, we were using our thermal imager to look at the blood flow of
the patient and using the light to change the blood flow and that reduced the pain on the
patient.

What was really invented

And so what you really invented here was a system that nobody else was using. In fact,
hardly anybody was using light therapy to begin with. And so with the system you
devised, you have a camera, an infrared camera that measures the light that the body
emits.

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And there are patterns that are typical, that are characteristic of each kind of illness that
you see. And you can see in real time as you split the screen, where you have, and we'll
show you this on some images as we progress through this program, you have an image
on one side that's fixed, that's the starting image.

Then in real time, you're treating and you're looking at the thermal changes that you see
in the skin. And they are characteristic of different kinds of things like back pain with
sciatica or somebody who has dementia or somebody has heart disease or any kind of
condition that has pain.

And so that brought another level into the sophistication of what this technology is all
about. So you did something really special. How did you get started with this, Maurice?
How did you get into infrared technologies to begin with?
I was working at UC Berkeley and they asked me to take a grant with NASA Ames and I
took that grant and I was helping with surface science materials for the space shuttle.
And I designed a system so that they could image and do mass spectroscopy on the
samples because they wanted cheap materials for the space shuttle.

So I made these systems for them so they could do that and Dr. Popa from NASA told
me that if I would make one more instrument for him that he would introduce me to
people that use the same kind of instruments as I was operating in his system.

So I made that instrument for him and I got a call from Silicon Valley and they asked me
to make instruments for them and then they had a thermal imager that they had
purchased the rights to and it had problems and they asked me to redesign a whole new
thermal imager that would be better than anything on the market.

And so we made a 12 -bit test. system. And we had a group of orthopedic surgeons call
us and ask if we would make a program for them, and that's how we actually started in
the medical. Right. And then you started using it on people, and you saw all these
changes as you were putting infrared light back into the body that made people feel
different.

And so what we're going to do now is review

some of the story of how this developed and what it progressed into.
And it does some rather, it does things that are shocking. It's so shocking that it's hard
for people to actually comprehend that this new technology is real.

And yet there are thousands and thousands of papers out there now, many of them out
of the best research centers in the country from Harvard and Boston University and the
Boston VA and now all over the country, all over the world.

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So there are doctors in many different countries now, the US included, that are starting
to use this technology. So it's really a great opportunity for us to show you how this is
something that we can do.

So I have a PowerPoint here that I'd like to find because it's not showing, there it is. And
this is what the talk is about. And what we have is, we have to talk about what kind of
light are we talking about?

There are lots of names for the same thing. All these names that you see on the screen
are the same thing. And what they show is names like photonic stimulation, low level
light therapy, photodynamic therapy, photo modulation, they're all the same thing.

They're not LEDs. the first treatment devices that we started with were all infrared
wavelengths. And so you can't see infrared, but you can see the changes on the thermal
imager that was focused on the patient. But over the time, we found that I guess that
blue light would really add a lot to the equation because blue light has a lot more energy.

And so we started making machines that had blue light and infrared light. And Dr.
Soputo and I tested those machines and actually we tested them on our own families
before we test them on anybody else.

So that was the first machine is actually like mid -range. 90s, so it was a long, long time
ago. And we had that approved by the Food and Drug Administration. And one of the
first patients that we had, this was with a group of doctors on the East Coast, was a lady
that had had breast cancer and her husband was a physicist that worked for Brookhaven
labs.

And he had his wife go in for treatment for radiation. They set the source 10 times higher
than they should have, and they burned the lady. And all of her chest area was weeping,
and she had terrific pain all the time.

And so we used this first machine on her, our first light therapy device. And it was the
only thing that stopped the pain, and actually the weeping actually stopped after two
treatments. And so I had made just two prototypes, and the physicists asked if they
could take one of the prototypes, and I told them, yeah, you can take it for a week, but I
need it back, because I only have two of them.

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So anyway, what happened after a week, there was no return, and so I called him, and
he told me, he said, I can't send it back. And I said, well, why not? And he said, well, it's
the only thing that helps my wife, so I'm not gonna send it back.

So I said, okay, and then I only had one prototype.

Light from the sun light on earth

That's what we've seen with so many patients, is that same story. And all of it stems
from light. And when you think about it, light from the sun is, I mean, it makes it possible
for life on earth.

All what you're seeing in this picture here would not be present, nor would there be any
animal life. Light is what actually gives us the ability to function. And there are different
ways that you can use light that we are involved with.

And these are all the light waves that are put out by the sun. And the light that we use is
all safe life. It doesn't use any ionizing radiation like X -rays or gamma rays. It uses
visible light in the red and blue spectrum.

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And it also uses infrared. And that is the basis for a real safe, economically simple thing
to use. So we started with using devices 20 years ago that didn't have a whole lot of
power. And they didn't have a whole lot of different wavelengths in them.

But what's happened since that time, Maurice? Well, since that time, as I alluded to, So
what we've done now is our devices, our multi -spectral, they have like eight different
wavelengths of light that actually mix together and make a lot more different
wavelengths.

So we cover pretty much the infrared and visible wavelengths with, except for the grain.
The device on top is a 400 milliwatt. That's the original one and it was 880 nanometers,
which is infrared. And the bottom one is our current design, which we have made for us.

It's the only one in the world. And you can see it's from 400 milliwatts to 37 ,000
milliwatts. And if it weren't all just infrared, that would be way too much power, the
37 ,000, and you would burn somebody. But because it's multi -spectral, It works. The
power is okay and you don't burn anybody and it does a lot with all different kinds of
tissues. Each type of emitter wavelength does a different thing, helps different tissues.

If you turn on the blue and shine the emitter in your mouth, it lights up your teeth kind of
a peach color, but if you turn off the blue and turn on the infrared, it doesn't light up the

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teeth. So see the teeth need the higher energy to, and only the teeth that are alive light
up.

All the other ones will just be white and then you get these nice peach colored teeth for
the ones that are alive. It's amazing. Yeah, now you've done some other things with light
too. You have a system that delivers almost any wavelength that you want within the
spectrum that we're talking about, looking at blue and red and infrared.

And that's something that hasn't been done by other people. It's like an invention that
you made. Tell us what does that actually do?

How many frequencies can you make? Or how many wavelengths can you
make?
Well, we're actually covering that whole, almost the whole spectrum, the visible spectrum
and the infrared spectrum. Now, we also modulate this light to try to get rid of pathogens,
and that's something else that we're really not going to discuss.

But it's in the research phase right now. And so what you see on this slide now is all the
other devices that Maurice invented or has gotten the hold of that help us to identify the
resonant frequencies of different organisms.

And that probably has a future, but that's in the future. This slide, actually shows what
happens when you shine different wavelengths of light on a person, or on a skin. What
happens is there's water vapor that, or water that blocks, say, from a little over 900
nanometers to 1050.

So if you were using emitters that emitted at that wavelength, it would do nothing
because the water would just absorb it. And on the left side, you can see the blood
absorbs most of the red. So this doesn't show all the wavelengths that we do.

It doesn't show the blue, which is down from 400 to 500 nanometers. So this is a better,
this is a wavelength chart of Actually, all of the different wavelengths that the emitters
emit, and there's two, there's actually three blue ones that's on the left side and then in
the middle are the red three reds and then on the right are the two infrareds, but they
make wavelengths, other wavelengths like if you turn on the blue and the red you get
magenta also.

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So they're the whole whole band is covered. The point here is it's pretty complicated
physics and what we're doing is putting light that of different wavelengths and
frequencies that does different things in different tissues.

What might affect the brain might not affect the heart might not affect the muscles or the
pancreas and we're learning more about that as we're doing more research. One of the
things that well you can talk about that one, Maurice.

Well this is really interesting if you are in a dark room and you just use the blue light and
you shine the blue light on your skin, what happens is your skin glows red and blue light
does not make red light, but it's your body that actually makes the red light.

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Now what does the light do?

There are thousands of papers that talk about this and what the light does for starters is
it increases the blood flow instantly. There's a chemical called nitric oxide that
everybody's talking about that is important in dilating blood vessels.

So soon as that light hits a blood vessel and constricted, it is constricted, it dilates it so
you're increasing blood flow. It also activates stem cells and makes them migrate to the
area where there's damage in the body.

So we'll show you a slide eventually where we're looking at stimulating the actually the
sacrum and mesenchymal stem cells from there in people who have Alzheimer's disease
will receive those. stem cells and start to do work that gets rid of the tangles and
plaques.

It's pretty amazing.

It increases the production of energy: which is the basic illness or the basic problem
we have in every illness we have. There's a failure in production of ATP, which is the
energy currency of the body.

Gasoline runs the car, ATP runs your body. And when you don't have enough energy,
the cells fail. If you can increase that production of energy, which this light does, by up to
75%, you can restore function in tissues all over the body, including the brain.

while. It reduces inflammation.

It simulates the production of collagen.

It increases swollen tissues that are edematous.

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It kills microbes. We've talked about that a little bit.

Maurice did. And we'll see that it actually has an effect on the coronavirus, which might
be of interest to a lot of people today. as well as things like MRSA infections that are
prominent in hospitals today.

It increases the rate of tissue repair for sports injuries by about 50%. And we can
use it even treating cancers now. Some of the major universities are starting to use
what's called photodynamic therapy to treat cancer.

It's beyond the scope of this presentation, but you should know about it.

It boosts immunity.

It reduces the excitability of nervous tissue.

And it's the nerves that cause pain. So this is a very powerful way of relieving pain.

And we'll get to that a little while. Now, Maurice has come up with another effect that's
not been discussed in the literature. I think we wanna bring to your attention today that
called the photoelectric effect.

photoelectric effect
And it's something that Einstein discovered when, why don't you tell us about it, you're
quickly Maurice. Well, what I have to say is, when you use the stimulator to stimulate the
nerves, what happens with many patients is they get an immediate response.

And the immediate response is like somebody that has diabetic neuropathy and you
shine the light on their feet, they may not have been able to feel their feet for five years.
And in a minute or two minutes, the person a lot of times can feel their feet.

Yeah, and the pain disappears as well. And I know that the light makes a lot of changes
in the ATP and nitric oxide, how that all works. But I also believe that the light directly
gives energy to the electrons that conduct on the sheath of the nerve.

And I believe that it's a direct effect. And nobody's really talked about that. We have a lot
of questions. had one time a fellow with a patient with ALS and he couldn't move at all.
And we treated him and he could move his legs out of the wheelchair.

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That's after like a 10 minute treatment. So, you know, it's not healing the ALS, but it
allows the patient to get some mobility back and some quality of life. And it does it for a
lot of neurological conditions that we'll talk about.

These are the kinds of conditions we wanna talk about. It's used,

this light is used to manage pain. It's used for neuropathies, for lots of
neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and dramatic brain
injuries.

For different kinds of infections, a lot of viruses respond to this very nicely. We talked
about cancer and photodynamic therapy. And then there are some specific things that it
can do for various tissues like the eye that we have time we'll get into.

For pain management. These are the kinds of pictures that we see when we do the
infrared imaging. And what you're looking at here is, and it's hard to see, is someone's
back. Just assume where all that red stuff is, is the back.

And below it is a picture of the feet. And that jumped ahead. Picture of the feet that
shows you how things change. Describe what you have there, Maurice. What you, how
you interpret. We have three different sets of photos here, infrared photos from the
camera.

The left one, the red and white area shows that it's a failed back. It's nerves that are
really unhappy and tissues that are unhappy. The person has a lot of pain. And then, so
that's before treatment.

And then the middle image is several treatments later. And you can see how the
changes from the back actually, because the nerves go from the back down to the feet,
how it changes the pattern in the feet.

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And you can see that a lot of that red is gone out of that middle image. And then at the
end of the treatment time, after five treatments, the right hand upper photo is the picture
of the person's lumbar spine.

And look down at the feet, how the feet now have, they look both the same. And the
patterns are equal and the person is without pain. Yeah, this is a dramatic thing. And I
want to show you that this is actually a movie.

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That's a five minute movie. And we're not going to spend five minutes on it. I'm going to
take you through what this does over this period of time. These are the pictures of a
back. Okay. The one on your left is a picture that's the original picture.

And it's going to stay there to show you what it's like from the beginning. The one on the
right is going to show, I'm going to show you in real time. And it is going to change as we
treat. And as you follow the area in the low, back, you can see there is in the right that
are happening in seconds.

So I'll move this along a little faster so you can see what these changes are. This is at
about 38 seconds. It already looks a whole lot different than the one we had before. Now
we get a little further into it at a minute and a half.

And there are dramatic changes that you see here. We go out to three and a half or two
and a half minutes. And again, it looks improved again. And by the time we get out here
at four minutes, it's almost gone.

And by the end of the picture, you have something that's close to a normal back. That's
in five minutes. Show me a technology that can do that. And this person had pain. It's a
61 -year -old lady who had sciatica.

And when the treatment was done, the pain in the back was gone. The sciatica was
dramatically reduced. And over a period of about 10 days, this person was close to pain
-free and running and having a normal life.

This is another picture of one of my patients who had problems with a lot of pain in her
neck and headaches. You can see all the red stuff that's in the picture on the left. And in
15 minutes, it turned to what we see on the right.

The headache is gone. Usually we can relieve headaches in three or four minutes, which
is hard to believe. But I've been doing this for 20 years now thanks to Maurice's
technology. And I have a lot of people who came in with headaches who don't have
headaches now.

And over a period of about three weeks, this person got considerably improved. There's
just a paper that was written. It was published in the Lancet in 2009 that looked at 820
patients and reviewed 16 randomized placebo -controlled studies.

And their conclusion was that the reduction in pain was dramatic. So there's scientific
basis for what I'm reporting to you.

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This reflexive dystrophy, most of you probably don't know what this is, but when you
have an injury to an ankle or a foot or an arm or something like that, the whole nervous
system shuts down and you have what's called sympathetic maintain pain.

And these people are absolutely miserable. They can't walk. Some of them wind up in
wheelchairs because it can spread to all the limbs of the body. And in this particular
person, because we know it's the sympathetic nervous system, which is in the back, in
our backs, what we did is we treated the back where we found abnormal heat.

And what we saw were the changes that you see from this cold foot on the left to a foot
that warmed up and the RSD disappeared. We had another case because we go once,
several, a couple of times a year to Gary Null's place in Texas where he has a retreat
where he has 40 or 50 patients there.

And tell us about the patient you treated that was in a trial. and she had her wrist
amputated and she was having lots of trouble with pain. Well, she didn't know that she
had reflex sympathetic dystrophy.

She had gone to the doctors and they had done a surgery or a tube on her arm and she
was just miserable. And when we imaged her, we could see right away that it was called
non -dermatonal. It means it affected all the nerves and all the tissue and it was really
cold.

It was like five degrees colder than the room temperature. And Lynn and I used the
treatment device and the infrared camera, treated her for just, it was like five minutes.
Five minutes, yeah. And the whole thing changed and the RSD went away and this pain,
by the way, the RSD pain, I had one patient tell me at the Cleveland Clinic.

That is just like if you have a toothache, but you have a toothache and every every tooth
in your head That's terrible. That's the kind of pain it is. So and there's no real quick or
effective treatment in mainstream medicine It takes months.

No, that's if you can do it and this happens in minutes a lot of the time Yeah, or maybe
it'll take even a couple of weeks, but it's it's an amazing thing We know can we you can
use it a rheumatoid arthritis?

I want to show you an article that was written on that I have a patient myself who has
rheumatoid arthritis and he is the most miserable Painful person His hands were
probably three times the size of what normal is His knees were that way as well and he's
had about five treatments now He couldn't he couldn't get out of a chair without severe
pain and now he's starting to walk a little bit It's just amazing and there are many other
kinds of arthritis that respond as well.

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We also know that you can use this thing for people who have had surgery
postoperatively and in this particular study that was was published in a mainstream
journal for light They they showed that you could treat the overall pain in people who are
Moderate to severe and they have only mild to moderate pain afterwards And I think
Maurice you know someone who's been using this in Southern, California For patients
pre and postoperatively and the results have been really kind of stellar.

Yes, the the doctor bought five Instruments from us and he put them in the recovery
room with a hospital and every time he he was a surgeon every time that he Operated
on somebody he treated them before and then he treated them after and after he started
doing that He he didn't have one patient that that ended up with RSD.

Now we talked about diabetic neuropathy you did earlier and these are some slides of
somebody who has diabetic neuropathy Maurice what you described what you said
here.

Okay the top image is difficult to see. The plantar at the bottoms of the feet, but the
upper image shows pre -treatment and then on the dorsal feet is on the right. So anyway
there's very little bud perfusion because it's cold.

That's what the infrared camera is showing us. And then this is after one treatment. The
on the bottom, the plantar feet again, show the thermal patterns coming back and both
on the bottom of the feet and the top of the feet.

Yeah this is when you're treating somebody with diabetic neuropathy and I've treated a
ton of people who have it, almost all of them, they get better in 15 minutes or 10 minutes
something like that. The numbness improves, the pain usually disappears, the balance
improves, and it stays.

If you do it four or five days or maybe even for two weeks, it'll be good for weeks to
months to years. And some of my patients come back periodically for that every year or
so for a little tune up for a day or two.

Then there are a lot of neurodegenerative diseases. And the question is, how much light
do you need? And this poor dog that is kind of just put there because it's a little funny to
see, we don't need that much light, that's for sure.

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So how much do you need?
Well, it depends on where you shine the light. If you put it on the skull, you know the
skull is pretty thick and it's hard to get light to go through that. But we know that there are
areas that where there isn't so much skull, like if you shine it in the eye, you might think,
I'm not putting that thing in my eye because it may be a problem, but I'll tell you, I've
treated a number of people with low level levels of infrared light only.

I don't use bright light and I don't use a lot of light. Whose vision has become restored.
People with visual field defects, they're gone in like 15 seconds. It's hard to believe it can
wake up the red and not to be able to do that.

So if you shine it in the eye and you shine it up the nose, which is what literature is
talking about now, that's where there's thin bone or no bone at all. And you can get that
right into the brain.

So it depends on where you treat for the kind of effect that you're gonna see. So that
may explain why some of the research outcomes are a little bit different and why you
have to have a device that can get enough power into the brain, which is what we found
is important.

So that's how that works. One thing I'd like to add, we don't recommend that anybody
shine light in their eye unless they go to the doctor or physician that directs them. All this
should be supervised by a doctor.

This is not something to be used indiscriminately by, unless you're an expert in it.

What are the kind of brain diseases can we treat?

Certainly Alzheimer's and other dementias, Parkinson's disease, MS, ALS.

We treat traumatic brain injuries, strokes, and some psychiatric disorders, depression,
anxiety, and post -traumatic stress syndrome. And this was a surprise to us really
because we didn't expect it.

I remember when we were treating somebody to start with the new machine that you
made Maurice, this was three years ago, and we were in Texas and it was a
demonstration that other people were watching.

And there was a man that was 93 years old, I think at the time. 93. And he walked
slouched over, he had a shuffled gait, his head was down, I don't know if he was
drooling or not, but he could have been.

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And we had never used this on anybody with Alzheimer's before. And as we did that, we
saw over 15 minutes. He just brightened up. He started walking. He was almost like
dancing. He said, I feel like dancing.

And he has told us he used to be an electrical engineer. And Maurice and I just fell off
our chairs. We couldn't believe what we were seeing. And we treated him in subsequent
years. And now he's 96 years old.

And the last time we saw him, we talked philosophy. Now, you don't see everybody
making recoveries like that, but you see most people making changes that are fairly
impressive. And the mechanism of action is to increase blood flow, which increases
oxygenation.

It gets rid of a lot of the inflammation. It stimulates nerves to regrow. And it tends to
make the dendrites grow too, which are the little denticles that go out from the end
connect with other nerves.

And I'm going to show you in a minute, another picture of what that looks like in cells. In
Alzheimer's disease, everybody pretty much who's in science knows that there are
tangles and plaques. And it's caused by damage to the brain from oxidative stress or
mitochondria that don't work or their abnormal brain rhythms.

These are the kinds of things that you see. And the response that we get happens so
fast. We did one of our own studies. Maurice's son, Martin, has a company. And he
looked at 10 patients who had dementia with infrared light and treated them for four
weeks.

And what they found at the end of that after doing cognitive testing is that they were
about 35% better. Now, show me some technology in medicine that involves drugs that
does anything like that. And you'll be a rich man.

That hasn't happened yet. So we're very impressed with what it does for that. So when
you, I mentioned this earlier, when you shine light on a rat that has Alzheimer's disease
and you shine it on their sacrum, on their low back, in the back, there are mesenchymal
stem cells there that get activated by the light that actually They travel through the
tissues and they go to the brain where they make a lot of these beta amyloid and tau
tangles disappear and it starts working in hours after you have done this.

So what we're looking at is something that's almost miraculous. This is a slide I wanted
to show you. This is a picture of cells from a rat that has Alzheimer's disease. The two

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on the left are just different blow -ups, different strengths of microscopic blow -up that
can show you the cells.

You can see that those cells are circular, they don't have anything, no axons or dendrites
that you can see. If you use low -level light over tissue cultures of these cells over five
days, you start to see things that you can't believe.

All the dendrites start growing and they start becoming normal so they can take us, they
a lot of change. Now, these are studies that I want to show you very quickly that talk
about what can be done using light for Alzheimer's disease.

And this study came out of Harvard. It was done by Michael Hamlin, who has worked
there for many years and is one of the pioneers in light therapy. And we know that there
aren't any drugs that work, but we know that using light, particularly red and infrared in
this particular study, show that you can relieve pain inflammation and you can prevent
tissues from dying.

That's the big thing in Alzheimer's disease. And so what they did is they put together a
number of studies that were done on this and they showed that people who had
dementias were recovering. So that's a big deal.

In another study, it was called Turning the Lights On for Neurodegeneration. The
article, again, was done by people who published in a major journal for neuroscience.
And what they found is that we know we have to have neuroprotection for these cells
that are dying and we know that red light and especially infrared light, because it
penetrates so deeply and has enough power, you can have a treatment that works.

So these people actually came to think that this would be worth trying in anybody who
has Alzheimer's or Parkinson's because it's safe and it works pretty well. Then in another
study, which I want to go over quickly, it was done by all the big shots in this country
from Harvard and from Boston University and from Toronto, Canada.

They treated people over a period of 12 weeks. And what they saw in the patients who
had these dementias is that there was a big improvement in function. And they slept
better. They didn't have so many outbursts of anger or anxiety and they weren't
wandering.

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And they saw these decadent. in just four weeks of treatment. So they were
recommending, again, in this study, that it's a good idea to do this, to treat people who
have these problems. So in our experience in treating Alzheimer's, we found that using
older devices worked.

And so the ones with minimum power work surprisingly well. And I think that's probably
because there are light channels in the skull and in the body, through which there's like
fiber optics that allow light to pass through the skull, even when it's in low dose, but to
use a bigger dose of light is even better.

So that's the major point I wanna make with that slide.

This is a young man who was 22 years old who had a traumatic brain injury. And this is
a special kind of electroencephalogram. It's called an EEG that shows the
interconnections of the brain.

And you can see on the left side, There are not very many interconnections made by the
brain. These are the red lines that you see that are going from one point to another.
What they did is they treated him one time with low levels of infrared light and look at all
the connections and that happened in 25 minutes.

So we're seeing evidence here that the light is doing things that we can measure. In
patients who have traumatic brain injuries, Margaret Nesser, I think she works at Boston
University, showed that when we treat people over six weeks, and I think they used 18
sessions, there was improvement in executive function and ability to learn with words,
for memory recall, for sleep, for PTSD, for social interaction, and even things they could
do with their jobs.

I have one person who had Alzheimer's disease that is a retired police officer. When he
came to me, he was really losing his memory. He couldn't remember, he couldn't drive a
car safely, and he was just confused.

And we used, this was several years ago, a weak device because it was before we had
the device that Maurice made, and it made a big difference in him over a period of about
six weeks. He went back to driving his car and he's doing normal life functions.

It's just a small miracle. Now, for traumatic brain injuries and strokes, this has also been
effective, and it's really just my wanting to show you another article that was done by
Michael Hamlin from Harvard University that says that you can do a lot with light to help
people with traumatic brain injuries and with strokes.

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Now, we've treated a number of people with multiple sclerosis, and one in particular,
Maurice, I'll just kind of introduce it. We were given a talk, and this was again in Texas at
Gary Nalls Place, and there was this kid that was, I guess, in his late 20s who had had
MS for eight or nine years, and he was in his wheelchair and his arms were shaking, his
legs were shaking, and he had nystagmus, his eyes were going back and forth.

He couldn't read. He couldn't put food in his mouth without it going all over the place.
And as I looked at him I thought and I looked at Maurice and I said we we're not gonna
be able to treat him This is just asking too much.

Well, what happened? What did you do more ace and what happened? What happened
is? when we we treated him for about 20 minutes and All the shaking stopped and it's
the first time in eight years that he could touch his face and His mother was there and
she just started crying.

She cried for two hours and We were there for several days and we gave him Daily
treatment daily Help with that with the with the system and he was able to feed himself
and sleep better and do some of the things that by himself that he had relied on other
people to do and They purchased a home unit from us And he's just over the last several
years, he's improved even more.

We're hoping that after this COVID that we can see if we can activate some stem cells
and get him out of the wheelchair. Yeah, that would be amazing, but he's improved and
dramatically so. I mean, he went from not being able to function.

He couldn't even read because his eyes were going all over the place, but that was a
great story.

Then we treated a couple of girls there that were in their early 20s. One of them was a
cheerleader and she couldn't do her cheerleading because she didn't have any balance.

So she tried to take baby steps with one foot in front of the other. She'd either fall over or
she couldn't maintain her balance. And this was that first time that we treated the 93 -
year -old man. We had our machine there for the first time and we decided to put it on
her too.

So we did our normal treatment for what we do for the brain. And then 15 minutes, she
could stand on one foot and put the other foot out behind her with her hand spread out.
We just fell off our chairs again.

It was really amazing. And the other young lady who had it that came another time had
lots of pain and dysfunction and we treated her as well. And that got better. And I have a
patient who's an acupuncturist who's had it for probably 40 years.

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His neuropathy is controllable. His back pain is controllable. And it doesn't cure the
disease, but it does a lot to make people function a lot more normally. We can use it for
infections. And this is probably interesting because there's a lot of pneumonia going
around with COVID now.

And this is a study that showed that when you use the light on people who are elderly
who have pneumonia, it makes a big difference in how they are. It improves their clinical
status, their respiratory function, pulmonary blood flow.

And they use this and if there's came to the conclusion, this should be used for the
rehabilitation of elderly patients with pneumonia across the board. Not a bad idea. And I
do that. that for my patients who are like that.

Light can be used for coronavirus infections.

At least we think. Now, this is preliminary information, but we know we can treat viruses.
Maurice, you discovered this when you had a cold.

What did you do? Well, a lot of times, people recommend different things on the first sign
that you're getting sick. You know, take a lot of vitamin C or there's all kinds of different
concoctions that people take that ward off the person from getting sick.

They feel better the next day. But very, very few people, when you're really sick, if you
have a the cold, everything is running, the nose is running and you feel miserable, your
eyes are running and you turn on the light.

and then put it in your mouth and up your nose and around your forehead. And your
neck. And your neck. And what happens, the cold stops. Now, that doesn't mean you
just want treatment. You should treat for several days.

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I mean, several times, one time, one day, then next day or whatever, but it makes the
cold a lot shorter. Right, there's some preliminary information to suggest because
Corona is a virus that it too respond the same way.

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And there are a couple of anecdotal reports that suggest it's worth a try. And somebody
who has real coronavirus infections, you'd be remiss if you had this technology not to
use it. I think it's something that will be more common in the future.

The light treatment for cancer, I'm not going to do because there's just too much
involved with that, and we don't have enough time. But there is some evidence that it
works on the heart pretty well.

Unknown speaker 48:15

And this is a very interesting slide of a man who's in his 90s who has heart disease, that
I've been treating his heart with light. And you can see that there's a lot of red over the
left side and in the left slide on the left side of the body, over the chest.

And if you look carefully, up over the eye, there is a green spot that's on the right side on
the left side of your slide, and the right side looks much different. That cold spot is
something that people know is associated with heart disease.

I don't know why, but in this particular case, what I did is I treated this man with light over
his eye, not in his eye, over his eye where that was. And look what happened to the
image over the chest.

It just totally changed. I didn't put the light nearest chest, just on the eye. That tells me
that it's possible that what's happening here is we're on an acupuncture meridian point
for the heart that's making a difference.

in what's happening there. And that's just an interesting aside. That's an anecdotal
report. This slide I'm only showing, don't even try to look at it. Just look at the conclusion,
but what it's doing is treating the heart in people who have had stents put in or have had
open heart surgery.

And what their conclusion was is if you use that light that you will make people get
better. And I'll just leave that at that and show you what the next slide shows. If you
compare it to the drugs that are used for heart disease, it's about equivalent to it.

And it improves contractility, cardiac output. And people are talking about using it in
people with congestive heart failure, which I've done and a few people have seen good
results. Now, when people have coronary artery bypass surgery, which I had a few years
ago, as soon as I had my chest pain, I was looking for my photon stimulator because I
knew that that would be something that would help people with angina.

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I thought, well, if this is what that was, I want to do it. And as it turned out, I had to have
a triple bypass. And the day before surgery, I put that light on my chest over the heart.
And after surgery, did the same thing.

And what does the data show in people who do this very same thing and it's published in
a medical journal? It shows that the enzyme levels don't rise if you do this, like they do, if
you don't do it.

So it's something that is in need of more study, but doctors are beginning to know about
it. Then there are some miscellaneous conditions that you can treat. I told you that you
could treat the eye with light.

And in this case, we got the idea from this. And there were some rats that were poisoned
with methanol. And when you do that, they go blind. That's just what alcohol does. And
the reason they do is because it kills a very important enzyme there that's in the
mitochondria that's the energy producing part of the cell that makes it impossible for you
to be able to see.

Now if you treat these people with light, after you have poisoned them at 5, 25, and 50
hours, they hardly go blind. A lot of them don't go blind at all. So we know it has an effect
on the eye. And as I told you, I've treated probably a dozen people, maybe two dozen
people over the last 20 years who've had problems.

The last one I can remember was a woman in her late 50s or 60s who couldn't read the
E on the chart. She had had multiple surgeries on her eye. And she was really sad about
what she had. And I said, well, if you want to try it, I don't think this will hurt you.

And it may do some good. She thought about it and said, well, I haven't got much to
lose. Well, over the course of the next day or two, she could read down two lines. And I
got the biggest hug from that.

And of course, both of us were in tears because we couldn't believe that we had done
something that was that impressive. And now there's a lot of literature that looks at this
and is supporting it. It's used in the eye to restore vision and to treat things like
immaculatory degeneration that's dry or to treat glaucoma or other conditions like that.

And there are many dental applications that you can use too. Things like TMJ problems,
you would have jaw pain that's painful and you have to wear bite plates. And most of
those people, we can treat three or four minutes for three or four days in a row and it
disappears.

And then there are other things like Bell's palsies and trigeminal neuritis and many other
oral things that we have had good anecdotal responses to. For soft tissue injuries, again,

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it's a wonderful thing to do for sports injuries.

People with tennis elbows, I've had plenty of tennis elbows myself and I didn't travel to
tennis tournaments without taking my photon stimulator with me because I knew that if
something went wrong, I probably would be able to recover from whatever happened.

you over the course of a few hours or the next day. And what I have here is a picture of
somebody. You can see all the red in the arm of somebody who has a tennis elbow. And
the picture on the right side of the screen shows the tennis elbow having been treated in
just 15 minutes.

Now it took a week to treat that every day to keep it from happening. And it took a tennis
lesson to teach her how to hit the ball right too. Now, Gary Null has been seeing the
work that we have been doing for the past four or five years.

We probably made five or six treatments there, something like that. And he's videoed
some of the work we've done. We had two patients who had neuropathy, one in a
wheelchair and one in a walker, older people.

And we interviewed the people and we did the treatments on camera to show what we
did. And in a period of two days, the man in the wheelchair went to the walker and the
man in the walker was walking around normally.

And both of them were that pain and the numbness was improved, their balance was
improved, their strength was improved. And we also treated a couple of people with
Alzheimer's that he has also had testimonials from that showed the same thing.

But it's not just us. There's all kinds of things that are happening with light that's being
published now in the main journals that is telling us what's happening. I just have so
much respect for you, Maurice, for having had the patients to deal with a newbie who
didn't know much about light therapy at all, but at least had the willingness to listen to
what you had to say.

And it's changed how I practice medicine almost completely. Aside from the spiritual
stuff, which I think is even more important than light, and you do too. This is a
technology that needs to be brought forward.

right for us to take this to the next step

The research is there. There are studies coming out of major institutions all over the
world. And I think the time is right for us to take this to the next step. So we're both in

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great appreciation for having the opportunity to present this on such a large scale to the
people of the Commonwealth Club.

I have one thing to say. I want to tell you what kind of person Dr. Soputo is. Several
years ago, I went over to his office on Saturday because he spends his Saturday
Sundays and evenings treating people that have limited resources.

And when I stepped in the door, he told me, he said, you know, Maurice, this is a low
point of my life. And I said, what's that? And he said, I have to pay people to come here
to be treated. I treat him free, but I still have to pay him.

And I said, how's that? And he said, well, there's a person that was gonna take Bart
over, he had enough money to come over on Bart, but he didn't have enough money to
get back. I said, well, what did you do?

He said, I gave him a $20 bill. So now I'm paying patients. So that just tells you what
kind of a Dr. Dr. Subutl is. Well, we have had an opportunity that is absolutely
remarkable because we're entering a new era of medicine.

And this era is gonna be punctuated with a kind of success we've never seen before.
We're not into biochemistry as much now when we start talking about biophysics. The
bio -energetics of how the body works has a template that regulates the biochemistry of
the body.

And there's nothing wrong with using drugs and nutrition and other things that affect our
biochemistry. They're very important, but it's even more important that we go to the root
cause of what's happening.

And of course, that's biophysics. Unless you wanna go deeper to the spiritual aspect of
why people get sick and have the problems that they have, because that's the original
thing in my opinion. After practicing medicine for 55 years, I've come to the conclusion
that a lot of what I learned in medical school was interesting, important information, but it
was only the start.

It was the tip of the iceberg. It's what gave us the wisdom to be able to move forward
and learn on our own. And I've done that because I care about how people feel and
about their suffering. And that's why we've gotten to this whole idea of integrative
medicine, of somatic therapies, which we'll hear about in another presentation here at
the Commonwealth Club soon, and about the holistic nature of how we operate as
people, as a humanity.

So I wanna turn the meaning back over to Robbie Kilpatrick now, and I wanna thank
Maurice for participating in this. Thank you, Len. You know, greetings and thank you, our

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audience, for attending today's meeting of the Kamala Club of California.

I'm Robert Kilpatrick, Chair of the Club's Health and Medicine Member -led Forum and
Chair of this program. And I'd like to thank Dr. Len Seputo and Maurice Bales for this
incredibly interesting program.

I mean, I learned so much today. And what I liked most about it was that you brought
innovative science to the public. Lots of studies, lots of science, and yet I understood the
vast majority of it. And I got a glimpse of what you referred to, Len, as new frontiers in
medicine.

And certainly that's something that we'd like to see more of at the Kamala Club of
California. Well, during the COVID times, the club is presenting all of our programs
digitally. And therefore, I must say we welcome your financial contributions.

Please make a donation on the club's website so that we can have exciting programming
like we had today from Dr. Soputo and Mr. Bales. You can go to the website at
www .commonwealthclub .org and any amount of money helps us.

Now, this program of the Comma Club of California commemorating more than 116
years of enlightened discussion is adjourned. Thank you and come again.

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