--> '''Me:''' WHOOOA DUUUUUUDE! Check out these rad graphics, maaaaaaaan!

--> '''Him:''' Duuuuuuuuude, check out the killer sound [[XtremelyKoolLetterz FX!]] --> '''Me:''' '''WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! TOTALLY RAD, DUUUDE!''' * This troper realized that there was no god when he, on his nieces confirmation ceremony, was exposed to a Totally Radical rap about the ten commandments performed by two thirty-something pastors, as the confirmands tried their best to sink through the floor... * in the orientation assembly for the first day of my 7th grade class (back in 1990) the principal of our school in an effort to relate to the youth that failed MISERABLY made a spandex superhero costume and appeared at the assembly as Commander Cookie! with the promise that the students who made the best grades would be visited in class by this persona who would give them a cookie, half the school facepalmed and the other half laughed him off stage, Commander Cookie was never seen since * This troper upon noticing she missed several waves of new slang terms just decided to continue with those she grew up with, fitting into a retro fan image. Then for the fun of it she started using the same dated slang in other languages. Swell! * Today, in This Tropette's history class, we were forced to listen to an awful educational rap song about the Trail of Tears. The teacher expected us to take this 100% seriously. * This troper has a penchant for either being very behind on slang (since I don't listen to a lot of new music) or liking the sound of old slang. Preferred terms include bitchin', cherry, cool beans, rad and ballin'. I also really like science fiction and foreign slang. * [[Tropers/CaptainPlanette This Troper]] uses this all the time. Mainly using the phrases "dude" and "man" constantly in reference to everyone (even girls). I also use "totally" all the time, too, though, along with phrases like "brownie points" (which is apparently really outdated?) I also found the phrase "razz my berries" (meaning you find something cool, i.e. 'that game razzes my berries') in a 50s slang dictionary, which I absolutely ''love'' and am trying to bring back into common parlance. ** Where I'm from, that sounds like a VERY sexual reference. * This troper is a young teenager, yet he still thinks out-dated slang is used. He rarely uses slang though, but he is polite and won't think twice about calling someone "sweetie" or "honey" (especially when correcting them). ---Yo! Your homebodies is chillin' on the [[TotallyRadical Mizain Pizage,]] dawg. ----

TotalPartyKill * On {{Roblox}}, I am known, we shall call me, Zuul. So, I had mastered the game and had killed everyone who opposed me. Many had

created a team and attacked me all at once. As I dodged, they made a plan. I shot them all down with one explosive fireball to kill all of them. It worked... * A personal example - once while playing ''[[WorldOfDarkness Vampire The Masquerade]]'', my group ran into some werewolves that were guarding someone we needed to rescue. We were actually about to get out with minimal damage thanks to one player coming up with a clever distraction. However, the party dumbass, naturally armed with a SawedOffShotgun with dragonsbreath rounds, decided that he needed to "help out". One unloading of flame damage ended up killing two party members and leaving two more so weak that the werewolves (who were no longer distracted and also more capable of resisting the fire) could kill two more easily.The gamemaster mercifully declared that session AllJustADream before we could kill the player responsible for it. ** [[WhiteRoseDuelist This troper]] was in that game. The same player also decided that it was a good idea to fire a shotgun into a pile of grenades in a ''[[HumanOccupiedLandfill HoL]]'' campaign and to give a character who just made a FaceHeelTurn a scroll of ''meteor swarm'' ([[RocksFallEveryoneDies nigh-epic destructive magic]]) against a party of mid-level characters while running a ''DungeonsAndDragons'' game. And in about two weeks, I'll be on the wrong end of a (at best) 52-on-8 battle (really 52-on-6-on-1-on-1, but we think the two neutrals are sympathetic to us... maybe) he's running. * This troper's old gaming group call the spell Fireball the "E-Z-Bake Oven" for the simple fact that it is often the most common cause of TPK. * I meet with friends twice a week for a 3.5 campaign. Recently (as in March 26, 2011 recently), I and five other players were introduced to what the DM called a "fractal gauntlet", where we went through a series of rooms that increased exponentially in size and difficulty. First room? A single gnoll in a 5-by-5 room. Second? Two gnolls in a 10-by-10. The third? ''Four Bugbears'' in a 20-by-20. By this point I, being a Rogue and having to open all the doors, was significantly battered by charging monsters. At this point, I had caught on to the DM's scheme, and suggested we bug out. The resident swashbuckler, a man by the name of [[PrincessBride Roberts]], invoked "The Punchline is Machisimo" and declared ''"Rogue is Coward!"'' and demanded that I open the door anyway. Guess what was on the other side of the door? [[ThisIsSPARTA Eight. Fucking. Ogres.]] Over the span of 15 rounds of combat, five of our six-man party died, two of which fell to Massive Damage. The only reason that the last player got out alive was that the ogres found it slightly difficult to squeeze into a five-foot-wide corridor and were picked off by arrows. * This troper had an accidental one where his DM forgot that the CR for monsters in D&D 3.5 is based around a four-man party of average strength and should consume around 20% of the party's resources (i.e. a CR 4 monster should provide a reasonable challenge for a four-man party of ECL 4 characters and consume about 20% of their resources). He pitted 6 orcs (CR 1/2, therefore any one is a match for two ECL 1 characters) against a 6-man party of ECL 1 characters. Encounter CR? 3, more than ''double'' our party's ECL. Also one of them had an Adept level. We didn't make it out of that one (had this troper had his way,

we would have snuck off, but everyone else at the table decided some bashing was in order). ** To be fair, this is a perfectly winnable fight for a reasonably optimized party. Also, maybe your DM was just used to level 3+ characters, who can easily win fights with EL up to double their level, depending on the CR makeup of the enemy. ** ... your six man party lost to six orcs? What classes were you? That should've been a hard fight, not a wipe. * [=DnD=] 3ed. A dire rat, against a level 1 party of a rogue and a fighter. 'The rat bites you... Your head explodes?', followed shortly by 'The rat bites your head off.' in an extremely disbelieving tone. The DM had misread the sheet and rolled a D20 for damage. And rolled high. * The 3rd-level party was trekking through a forest. This troper rolled on the random encounter table and got a giant praying mantis, which got the drop on the party and tore the wizard's head off before being killed. The rest of the party decided to stop to bury the wizard. The problem? Nobody had brought grave-digging implements, so they decided to take the time to use their bare hands. This took long enough to trigger another random encounter in the form of a wandering owlbear. Several poor grapple checks later, the rest of the party was dead. * When trying to infiltrate an enemy held ruin, the party in my game failed to avoid detection. So the party ended up running away from a huge mob of soldiers and ended up all dying. * Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. Time spent making three characters with just one book available: 1 hour. Time spent playing: 15 minutes. How? The GM started out with the adventure from the book, we stumbled upon a village where someone was about to be hanged by some peasants. The resident moron, playing a dwarf warrior, gets out a throwing axe and hurls it at the rope, hoping to cut the poor fellow off. He misses. The peasants, thirteen of them, turn towards us. The moron shouts, "I've always wanted to be an executioner! Let me!" The peasants proceed to kill us to death. My own character lasted longest, eventually losing the pursuing mob in the forest, but bled to death due to a critical hit suffered during the brief fight. * [[DrLombriz This troper]] was playing an old, Ultima-esque computer RPG titled "Exile: Escape From The Pit" and his beginning party was exploring a (mostly) beginning dungeon when they came upon an evillooking altar on the second floor. The party approached the altar and got a foreboding feeling: To desecrate or not to desecrate? Well, I yelled "Fuck the establishment!" and kicked it over. The incredibly foreboding messages "Gilliam reached level 7!" and "You feel elated" popped up with the message to get rid of the latter window reading "Buuut...?" The two upper-level demons who spawned from the alter's destruction killed the party before they literally before they could turn around. ** Pretty much any time in the Exile/Avernum series you have a chance to desecrate an altar or steal a shiny object lying on one, something nasty will happen to you. If you can beat the summoned guardians, you usually get something good out of it. * [[MinusZero This troper's]] DM cannot and will try to get us a TPK.

We win. Some famous quotes from players include: ** Prince out for his throne: "Does a 48 hit?" ** Gambling and shapeshifting sorcerer: "I win at Poker with a 50" ** Halfling Ninja: "I roll a 1. total hide check 17." ** DM: "You gt a 35 on your stealth check. If you choose to use Shadow Step, you will have 70. You can steal all of the guards equipment, steal the guards, have sex with the guards' wives, kill the guards, backstab the DM, and nobody would notice." ** NPC reporter: "This was News A. Beesee, reporting outside of Townsvil, where four venturers have taken down an ECL 10encounter at only level 5, sustaining no damage." * Thunderdome MUD is by far the most brutal RPG on any platform, harder than NintendoHard. It's rife with opportunities for total party kill, sometimes with everything irrecoverable. There are attitude mobs that will come hunting YOU after you've reached a certain level or obtained certain rare high-end gear, and they tended to laugh about it in gossip so everyone can hear when an entire party got wiped out and looted at once. And to make things funner, they intelligently equipped the best gear they just seized, to make it even tougher for the nownaked party to get anything back. * This troper is the party idiot. Lesson learned - open the window, '''then''' throw the grenade. * This editor still remembers his first and so far, best TPK. When my players killed the demon I was using as my campaign's Big Bad, in a completely anticlimactic fashion that I was disappointed to end the session with, I decided to retaliate. The demon's spirit came back looking for revenge and possessed the party leader, who then killed off the rest of the party in a demon-dominated rage. Needless to say, I haven't heard from those players ever since... * I was once playing ''zOMG!'', and decided to suppress my CL and go through Deadman's Pass to get some of the area's loot. Well, I decided that it would be better with a crew, so I found one which was going to fight the OMGWTF. When we got there, we fought off the OMGs that the boss sent at us, and when the OMGWTF itself appeared, it immediately started attacking one girl, who ran to the next screen to get away from it. She told us over crew chat not to worry about her, but we did worry, as the crew window showed that she was low on both HP and stamina. We all ran to help her, with some of us healing and some of us attacking the giant hat-dragon. It finally defeated the girl who had run away, and started to pick off our healers one by one. In the end, I was left running madly around the screen, trying to recover my stamina without getting hit. * The problem: Getting through a service entrance at Seattle-Tacoma international airport in a game of {{Shadowrun}}. The intended solution: Slipping the gate guard 50 nuyen. What my players chose: Ramming their van through the gate, giving the guard a chance to call in an intruder alert, and ''then'' deciding to snipe him out the van's back window. Which led immediately to... ** The problem: A high-speed car chase involving a van full of shadowrunners and airport security through and around a hangar complex. The intended solution: Either surrendering or running away. What my players chose: To try bluffing that they ''had a bomb'' and

that security had better 'back off or else!'. Please remember that they were ''in a major international airport''. Which led to... *** The problem: Airport security has responded to the bomb threat by calling for backup, specifically a counterterrorist special-ops paramilitary unit. The intended solution: At this point, throwing down their weapons and coming out with hands in the air is about the only hope of survival they have left. What my players chose: Three guesses, and the first two don't count. * This Troper had an...interesting example, in a D&D 3.5 campaign loosely based on the plot of Warcraft. the party Rogue and I (The parties Sorcerer) stumbled across "a glowing green pool". we decided that after nearly a week underground, we could use a bath. The other partymembers objected, so we pushed them in and soon followed. turns out it was pure unholy energy, and all of us died. * Not a TPK, because it's anti-genre to kill anyone in a [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] {{Champions}} game. But as the GM, I scored a Total Party Capture once. Our [[strike: Idiots]] Heroes were trying to sneak up on a large group of agents, blew any chance of Stealth with their chosen method of getting through a locked door, and then sat around for 10 minutes of game time arguing about what to do next. At which point, I pretty much had to give all the agents Held Actions, meaning they'd get to go first despite normally acting at the end of the phase. The agents also all had the Teamwork skill, and enough of them made the rolls to get bonuses on those Held Actions. Nighty-night. * This troper once got into a few tough situations. We'd recently gotten a huge influx of gold, allowing everyone in the part magic weapons and full plate armor. At ''level 1''. Of course, the DM was always prepared for this, since we were almost immune to normal damage (No AC is gonna protect you from a natural 20). First thing tried? Sheer numbers, 40 orcs, all at once, shooting arrows at me, for about 3 turns. I got hit twice. (Good thing too, a third hit would have killed me). After that, nets to try and restrain us. I manged to dodge some, and rip other nets apart in midair. Next, Grappling and dog piling, this is where I lost. Fortunately, we were 'captured' and not killed. ** After this of course, the DM got really creative. A bunch of kobolds tried locking me in a room and then closing the door after throwing in flaming oil pots in order to suffocate me. Luckily, my Constitution score was very high. After that, glue thrown on my face to blind me (Making all my armor useless) and to also try and suffocate me. Of course, I got lucky and manged to get all the glue off my face before the kobolds could do anything. *** Either way, my character was damn lucky. * After dabbling with D&D and Mutants & Masterminds and various other systems, the group eventually had this troper run a homebrew game, much to their chagrin (alright that's rubbish- the chance was leapt at eagerly). In a science-fantasy setting awash with psionics and crazy technology, the party had just finished a mission in orbit and had docked at a dumpy star port when they came face to face with a ten-ton robotic not-so-secret agent working for an infamously divided and mysterious security service. They were very, very angry that the party

hadn't clued them in to their mission. Rather than trying to talk their way out of the situation, or by talking just long enough to disable the thing (temporarily) with a barrage of EMP grenades, or even by waiting just long enough for the party's telekinetic to collapse a wall on it, the team's gunner decided to shoot it with their assault rifle. It reacted accordingly. Caught completely off guard, the rest of the team were shredded by fusion pulses- except for the team's massive cyborg swordswoman, who crit failed an agility check and ended up getting stepped on. Somehow the gunner who had initiated it all managed to dodge and decided to run for it- and then the robot picked up the closest thing to hand and crushed him with the improvised missile. Sigh. ** That's the trimmed version. I think I need to mention that what's really really REALLY stupid about the whole thing is that this troper was packing a 44k credit ion cannon (I had to sell three cars to get that thing- one was mine, two I'd nicked from some drug baron who'd had his neck snapped by the team's resident ninja). Now, sure, it was a stupidly overpowered super-robot but I was playing a mechhunter with enough specialised encounter powers to disable a frigging starship for an hour. It was blatantly obvious that the big metal lug was bad news because the GM goddamn told us that constantly, as did half the goddamn NPC population. Plus, you should always be wary of something that's bigger than the whole party combined. In just two turns I could've prepped my cannon, the telekinetic could've put up a shield aura and a damage-increasing magnifier buff, and everyone else could've licked it with EM grenades while we let rip. I mean, I defend a guy's right to be undiplomatic, but if you're going to resort to violence, do it ''properly''! *** I mean really. It was an armour-plated ''tank-with-feet''. Who the hell shoots a tank with an assault rifle? Oh, and what our illustrious GM failed to mention is that the "improvised missile" was none other than the cyborg that the robot had killed in the prior turn. Yes, the guy got crushed to death by the thrown corpse of his team-mate. Way to rub it the hell in dude. **** Basically Phil, our GM is a dick. Yeah we said it! * This Troper's gaming party practically freaks if the GM mentions "Illithids," due to being his (the GM's) first TPK in a CurbStompBattle. Oddly enough, though, the one who survived longest was the ''tank.'' We were also playing using SavageWorlds, and all of us had run out of Bennies by the time of our deaths. First to fall was our "Wooden Paladin," who, instead of "Detect Evil," had an always on "Detect Unnatural." He felt the Illithids appear (invisibly) and cried out where they were before getting blasted by all three of them with a single attack, dropping him. Next to go was my magical archer who had absolutely ''no'' close range techniques, followed by the kid mage [[MahouSenseiNegima Negi]] [[{{Expy}} Expy]], [[SdrawkcabName Igan]]. Then, about six turns later, the tank was dropped. * This troper played a Star Wars RPG for a while during his one semester of college. A particular incident stands out: I played as a Noble, basically a talker who had no part. One of our....stupider members played a soldier, and during a scenario where we snuck into an Imperial base, were found...by Vader. The DM enjoyed messing with us.

While I attempted to explain that we were mechanics, the genius decided to open fire. On Vader. The last thing I had my character do was shoot him in the head, repeatedly. His reasoning? "I wanna go to Hardee's." The DM actually threw him out of the room. * One campaign this troper was in ended in a near-TotalPartyKill due to a death throes spell the dragon had cast on himself, which took out over half the party. * This troper had this experience in Left4Dead. Three of four survivors walk out of a door way into the path of a tank. The tank then knocks down the straggler and beats him to death. ** This troper had one in the Single Player finale of Left4Dead 2's Dark Carnival campaign. Up til then, in both games, I hadn't had much trouble with the single player mode til then...no deaths, for starters. It was on Easy mode and everything, but the Dark Carnival finale seemed particularly tough; lots of Special Infected, for starters. The whole team was practically limping by the time the helicopter arrived...and then two tanks spawned at the same time, pretty much slaughtering the rest of us before we could make it through the massive hordes of common infected. During the entire finale, I counted SIX GODDAMN TANKS. The AI Director must've had a bad day. * This troper's first TPK occured in a D&D 3rd edition game run by a GM who often changed rules without thinking them through. Our 7thlevel characters were making their way through a swamp when we are ambushed by a huge swamp monster consisting mostly of teeth. For its surprise action, it bites our fighter, doing a decent amount of damage, and uses Improved Grab to get a hold of him in order to swallow him. We're not desperately worried at this point - it wouldn't be able to swallow him until its next turn (giving him the chance to break free and our cleric a chance to heal him), doing so would take up its attack, and it would be vulnerable to our rogue's sneak attack in between. Except that right after succeeding in getting a hold of the fighter, the GM declared that the monster swallowed him - no no additional turn needed, no additional grapple roll, no chance for him to break free beforehand, and no vulnerability to sneak attack. I ask the GM why, and his response is "I thought the swallowing rules were to cumbersome, so I changed them." No argument allowed. It swallows the fighter, dealing bite damage again. Seeing the situation, the rest of us decide "screw it" and try to flee... only we're moving at half speed and can't run because of the hip-deep water, which doesn't penalize the aquatic swamp monster. It proceeded to bite, grab, and swallow the cleric on its next action. Now that its stomach is full to capacity, it simply fights the rogue and my sorcerer normally - but with half our party down it makes short work of us. Total part wipe of our 7th level party in one surprise round and four normal rounds by a CL 5 monster. Last time I gamed with the guy running ''that'' game. ** Unlike the above the one time as GM that I got a TPK was in no way my fault. The D&D party had acquired a map leading to a "Lost World" style island full of dinosaurs and ruins good for weeks and weeks of play. Early on, the party meet a tribe of native halflings and learn that the largest of these ruins, where a great palace once stood, has become the lair of a dragon. He leaves the halflings alone because

eating dinosaurs is more efficient. The party at this time is 5th level, and recognize that the dragon is out of their league. Instead of deciding to leave the island and come back once they're higher level, or attempt to explore the rest of the island and gain levels and treasure that way, they decide to make a beeline for the dragon's lair (actually avoiding other encounters along the way) in order to burglarize the lair while the dragon is out hunting. Naturally, their attempt to sneak into the lair is thwarted by the dragon casting a 1st-level ''alarm'' spell every time he goes out hunting. The dragon shows up while the party is in the midst of stuffing their bags with his treasure. Trying to save the idiot party's butts, I have the dragon start by talking to them - he's bored and wants conversation. The party tries to bluff him and fails, but I decide that the dragon is impressed by their chutzpah and decides to ''geas'' them to retrieve an artifict he's had his eye on. At this point the players decided that it wasn't a dragon at all, but a gnome illusionist, and attack him. Total time for the dragon to wipe out the entire party: 2 rounds. * In Zombie Panic a griefer got some people into a safe area, but not everyone, and barricaded the only way in for other players...then when the area was secure he set down a bomb and blew everyone inside up. This resulted in much lolz for him and much rage from the players, until the players he killed turned into zombies, and ganked him like crazy. * In a death match shooter mode in banjo kazooie (basically goldeneye with EGGS), one genius used the grenade launcher at point blank range while we were all crowded into a room, sucessfully killing 4 players... in a 4 player game. Nothing like hearing the death music from all sides. ** In an earlier episode, we somehow ended up in a chain, with me behind one guy, i shoot him in the head, guy behind me shoots me in the head, previously mentioned lunatic, standing behind the other guy, shoots the guy in the head.... with a grenade launcher. That time we got to hear the death music one after the other.... * This troper was responsible for one that did not just include the party but the entire world, as well as the moon, and atleast our solar system. in my first RP experience, a multiverse-hopping BESM campaign. My character, a thief capable of splitting himslef into 300 incorporeal ravens, convinced the GM to let myself and the monk pull off what we called the "ClusterFuck." he stuck a flame ofuda to my forehead, said "this won't hurt a bit" and I swarmed into the army of near immortal dragons troubling us. (15 damage+30)x 300 (ravens)x 4 (for crit) x 2 (we both crit'ed)=144000 (the earth had 30,000 hp according to our GM's calcualtions from earlier in the game.) no wonder he was against it fro mthe moment we came up with it. * A couple years ago, [SymAntares This Troper] was playing the Dofus MMORPG with a few friends I'd introduced to the game. We'd been at it for a few hours, everyone was lvl 10-13 for a level 60-party (total levels, no fancy math). I'd just found a quest to take out a level 28 NPC. Dofus uses a TBS approach to fighting, and good tactics can make up for a level difference of 10-15 in some cases. 30+ level advantage, several experienced tacticians/strategists,

[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong should be easy right?]] ...[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TotalPartyKill Tell that]] to our [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CurbStompBattle asses]]... ---If you want to get out of this alive, go back to TotalPartyKill. ----

TotalWar This is for players of this great series of Games to regale each other with their stories of conquest or defeat, a gamers Valhalla. ----------------------------------* In my Grand Campaign in ''Medieval II'', I was playing as Scotland. We managed to take an island in the Mediterranian, which was apparently on Sicily's "to conquer" list - a few turns after taking it and moving my army out to continue my campaign on Milan, they sent about two thousand troops, including several units each of Norman Knights and Muslim Archers. My defense force consisted of two fullstrength units of Heavy Pike militia, one half-strength Pike Militia, one nearly-full strength unit of Highland Nobles, two units of Spear Militia, one half-strength unit of Highlanders, and a pair of catapaults. Total troop strength, maybe eight hundred men. I figured we were screwed, so I decided to make the victory as costly as possible. The Pikes set up on either side of the main gate and braces, with the Highland Nobles and one unit of spear militia screening the catapaults, which were set up to have a perfect shot at the main gates. Last unit of spears were set up on the battlements to keep the towers manned. As the ladders approached, I had the Highlanders charge out the gate and fight the ladder carrying troops, taking advantage of that bug that makes the siege troops drop their gear and forget about it. The Highlanders were massacred (unsupported, unarmored light infantry against heavy infantry = slaughter) but they eliminated the ladders. The castle's towers set the enemy siege tower on fire, and that solved that issue. The surviving Highlanders retreated into the castle, and the gates closed behind them right as the Sicilians' ram reached the gates. Cue tense waiting while the ram smashed the gates down....and then they crashed open. The Sicilians flooded inside, and the Pikemen met them, supported by flaming shots from the catapault. Several long minutes passed, and I committed the Nobles and the spear militia to holding the line. Catapault shots flew into the heart of the enemy clustered under the gate, killing scores at a time. Nonetheless, the Sicilians kept pouring in, pushing us back....and then they suddenly broke. The too-stubborn defenses of the Scottish combined with the massive pummeling they were getting from the catapaults overcame their morale. Almost half the army broke at once and began to retreat, and within a few minutes the only units still fighting were a few Normans and the archers still outside the gates who were getting whittled down by the towers' arrows. A couple of

minutes later, I sent the remaining troops out of the castle to make sure the enemy was fully routed, and they ran them off the map. After action report: Sicilians: 2200 men. Scots: 800. Sicilians killed: 1500. Scots killed: 350 or so. '''Heroic Victory.''' * In Rome Total War: Barbarian Invasion, I was playing as the Franks. One of my cities was besieged by a Vandal horde of '''five full armies'''. The city itself was defended by just one army, which had only six units: two units of pikemen, two archers, a general and a cavalry unit. I had also taken the city only recently, so a part of the wall had broken down. I sally out, trying to rescue what I could rescue and they attack me with their five armies - but one-by-one, as their reinforcements were delayed - so I place my pikemen in the part of the wall that had broken down, with the archers on the walls next to them and the general and the cavalry behind them. The result? I had slaughtered four of the five armies completely, but by the time the fifth army arrived, my men were exhausted and started routing, after which the battle was lost. However, the last enemy army was so worn out that, when I invaded the city with another army, I had retaken it without much casualties. That's a battle I'm still quite proud of. * The scene: a barren, rocky, foggy wasteland somewhere in Russia, during the Mongol invasion. My support army - trebuchets, archers, and typically lackluster Russian infantry - gets caught by a Mongol army. I don't even have a named general, but I'm thinking I might as well do what damage I can, since it's not like I can run or anything. I deploy in the corner, hoping to thin their ranks with my ranged fire even though it's so foggy and windy the odds of me hitting anything are astronomical. I've written it off as a loss. Instead, the first shot fired by a trebuchet arcs a third across the map and ''pulverizes the enemy general''. That throws the whole Mongol army into confusion, and they mill about and redeploy for a few moments, giving me precious time to keep up the fire. After a grueling half hour, most of the Russians are dead, but the Mongols are shattered. * For my Venice Grand Campaign for Medieval II, I very quickly learned that it was nearly impossible to beat the Mongols tactically on the battlefield map; the Mongol troops are all high-end veterans with good armor and weapons, with full-size armies that are led by highdread/high-command generals, and are close enough to provide reinforcements to one another - rendering it virtually impossible for a single army stack of my own to defeat a Mongol army. So instead, I realized I had to take a step back and turn to the series' title: ''Total'' War. Instead of fighting the Mongols tactically, I battled them ''strategically'' - building full-size army stacks led by lowly captains and flinging them at the Mongol armies, taking advantage to the massive amount of money I had thanks to good rulership of my vast empire and the extra income I was getting from sacking cities in the Iberian Peninsula, Norway, and the British Isles. My armies intercepted the Mongols while they were still far to the East, in Russian and Polish territory, and we kept battering them with wave after wave of militia troops, spearmen, and crossbows [[WeHaveReserves cheap, easily replaceable and quite disposable infantry]]. Nearly every battle was, technically, a defeat - but as the Mongols controlled no cities, they couldn't replace their losses,

while Venice ''could'', and could do so easily with the sheer amount of resources available. Every loss on our side cost use about a thousand men, but it cost the Mongols close to the same amount. The rest of the money was spent on several massive full-size reserve armies of cavalry, built out of the very best cavalry my empire could assemble, including mercenary units. We wore them down to maybe six full-size army stacks with only three living generals. Eventually, the Mongols managed to grab a Russian city, at which point I sprang the masterstroke of my plan: I assassinated the current Pope, established my own Venetian Pope, and had him commission a Crusade against said city. Within three turns, six full-size Crusade armies, consisting almost exclusively of those cavalry armies I mentioned before, slammed into the weakened Mongols and ''broke them'', besieging their city, killing their Khan, and sending them scattering across Russian lands. Thus, the Mongol Horde was turned back without setting a foot in Venetian lands, using ''strategic'' warfare over mere ''tactical'' combat. It took nearly forty turns of constant combat on the fringes of my Empire, but we ''crushed'' the Mongols utterly. ** That's what this (not the same troper as above)troper loves about this series. This is ''not'' a game about spammming build orders. This is a game about strategy, tactics, planning and manipulation. * On my first Grand Campaign in Medieval II, I was playing as the Holy Roman empire. By the time I quit, I had almost all of the map in my control. Everything to the Ural Mountains and close to Egypt's western border was black and gold. * This Troper accidentally recreated the battle of Agincourt while playing as England in the the first Medieval Total War. He had one heavy knight unit, one light horse unit, two billman units, two longbowman units, and two cannons, all of them highly experienced. The French had 100,000 mixed troops. [[CurbStompBattle It was a slaughter]]. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential He had also saved right before the battle and often went back and replayed the battle when stressed or bored]]. * In a Grand Campaign as the Danes in Medieval 2 my faction leader was ambushed by a small Holy Roman Empire army consisting of three ballista units and a General unit. I had been setting up watchtowers to prepare for an invasion but I didn't think the Germans got an invasion force mobilized that fast, and I was low on cash so I didn't recruit mercenaries as ambush protection. During the battle, the German general repeatedly charged with his bodyguard while my faction leader was preoccupied with the Ballista crewmen, and near the end only my faction leader and ten German knights were left alive. My faction leader, who is heavily wounded, in his mid-forties and hasn't actually fought in a battle for over a decade in-game, kills them all. Naturally after that the survivors were attacked by another army of a thousand Germans, but my faction leader survived that battle as well after the eleven survivors took out around sixty German soldiers. * This troper was playing as the Prussians in Empire Total War (Yes, i just said that, let the FanDumb rage against me for liking the so called "Black Sheep" of the series), and laid siege to Warsaw Poland. Now, The city was (Understandably)Heavily Guarded, and my army would suffer heavy losses if they simply assaulted. So i split my army into

two on the campaign map, so that one army was attacking from the north, consisting of mostly calvary and some line infantry, and one Army attacking from the south, Consisting of cannon, our General, and A Huge quantity of line infantry. I had the Artilery in the south create holes in their Fort's wall while the Northern Army Marched into the battlemap. Then, after a hole had been created, I sent the entirety of the southern army into the breach, which tied up the majority of their forces in fighting to keep us out. By now, the Reinforcing Northen Army had marched in completely. Then I sprung the trap: With so many of their forces fighting to keep the southern army out, only a few units of Armed Citizens were left to guard the northern gates. I had the North Army's Line Infantry Storm the wall, and they took over the Gatehouse very Quickly. I then Sent the rest of the Northern Army (Which remember, were mostly Calvary) to charge through the gate and attack the Polish Attacking the southern army from the rear, which they were totally unprepared for. The charge liquidized the pole's and surrounded them, and most were routing or dead before long. Result? '''HEROIC VICTORY'''. ** What? Why do people not like the Prussians? ** No The Prussians are Fine, It's Empire Total War People Don't seem to like. And Since the game came out [[ObviousBeta Half Finished]] due to ExecutiveMeddling,I Guess they have every right to. ** Ah, I thought that when you were talking about 'the black sheep of the series' you were referring to the Prussians and was confused. And I'm with you there, because I'd say Empire is possibly my favorite in the series. I've just found that playing a Total War game is always about finding ways to work around the dodgy AI, so, especially now with patches and mods, there's nothing that really bothers me too much about it. * I would like to post this in memory of General Sergei Kamensky. General of the Army of Western Europe and of the Russian Republic. Basically, I've had Kamensky since I engineered the revolution and turning Russia into a republic to make an interesting game. I proceeded to steamroll through the Ottoman Empire, and after that is the point I appointed Kamensky to the post of a new army. He managed to take Vienna from the Austrians and drive them completely into Italy, where they continued to be a nuisance in further liberating the area. Meanwhile, I sent Kamensky pretty much everywhere in Europe, Berlin, Spain, Denmark, everywhere except Paris and Great Britain. He became a 9-star general and one of his ancillaries gained was the Order of the Saint Andrew the First Called. He was the only General to have that distinction ever in that campaign. After starting another Italian Campaign, Kamensky's depleted army made a beeline for a lightly garrisoned Naples, where they were ambushed. Kamensky died leading a charge that day, and his army had to be merged with another one nearby. I could never fully replace the loss of Kamensky, even with the inherently immortal Kutusov. If anything, Kamensky dying was quite possibly the closest I ever got to really thinking that war is hell, at least in Total War. * This troper recalls playing as the Almohads (Moors) in ''Medieval I'', and having to fight off a Mongol invasion from the east. This culminated in a truly epic, Thermopylae-like battle in I think Crimea,

where about 100 of my soldiers managed to hold off an army of ''over two thousand Mongols'' for nearly the entire span of the fucking battle. I lost in the end, but considering that I'd basically fought to the last man, and that they had only ''five or six'' men left out of the original 2,000 or so, I still felt pretty good about it. The lesson here; bridges are really good places for fighting defensively. * This troper has just recently bought Medieval 2 total war, and learnt the hard way about the game's ArtificialStupidity when it comes to Pathfinding. In an Particularly important battle, he had his Calvary set up in a perfect Flanking formation, And Foot soldiers and Archers bogging the enemy down. Then he ordered the calvary to strike from the rear. They just sat there doing nothing. The Enemy was beginning to recover from the shock of the initial infantry charge. He Once Again gave the order. They Did Nothing. His whole army began to break. He Gave The order with increasing desperation. '''NOTHING.''' Finally, '''AFTER''' His general died, His entire army routed, and generally the enemy could do what they wanted, only '''THEN''' Did His calvary charge...into Spearmen ready and waiting for them. [[CurbStompBattle They got Butchered.]] The battle ended with a humiliating defeat, all survivors in ransom, and one very annoyed troper. Has this happened to anyone else? * This troper was playing the Byzantine Empire in [[GameMod Stainless Steel]] and clashed with the Venetians over Ragusa. His army, about half spearmen and half Byzantine cavalry (horse archers/light cavalry), managed to pull off a beautiful "hammer and anvil" manoeuvre, routing the enemy and taking about 500 prisoners, out of a 900 strong force. Then he ransomed them back to the Venetians...where [[WhatAnIdiot they promptly appeared in Ragusa]]. He went on to fight for the city, now reinforced, and sent unit after unit at the epic defence that the Venetians had set up around the town. Gradually, they were pushed back, although at great cost. The battle ended with repeated charges by his light cavalry against a defiant unit of spearmen, the rest of his army watching on, completely exhausted from the fourty-five minute ordeal they had just undergone. End result was Ragusa fell, [[PyrrhicVictory but about 70% of his army was lost]]. Oh, and the Venetians he had ransomed [[ShootTheShaggyDog were all killed anyway]] and reinforcing cost more than the ransom. Moral of the story: [[CaptainObvious don't ransom back a mass of troops who will appear in the settlement you're about to siege]]. * This troper recalls one particular instance in the Rome Total War Grand Campaign. I was playing as the Scipii and we were knee deep in the Civil War, my faction leader was leading the assault on Italy, while one of our minor family members attacked the Julii in Gaul from our strongholds in Spain while my faction heir landed with a full stack at Corinth to deal with the Brutii. After slogging his way through Greece with disturbing ease he began working his way up through Macedon. Now those of you who have played the game know that the Balkans are covered in mountains with only a few paths connecting the various cities together, making it a nightmare to invade because its fairly easy to block any given way in or out of an area with a massive army or two. So you can imagine my shock when my army came to rest outside Bylazora only to find the area occupied by no less than

EIGHT BRUTII ARMIES several of them full stacks and all but three led by family members, sometimes even more than one. The next round was spent watching all eight of them, usually in turn but once or twice in pairs rain down on my one little army, when the dust settled half the House of Brutii was dead on the field, eight armies had been decimated to the point where they just collapsed and my little army was badly mauled BUT STILL STANDING. To add insult to injury that same army went on to take Bylazora. * In Rome: Total War's grand campaign, this troper was able to get a working Marian army before either the Brutii and Scipii (obviously, I was the Julii). The year is 180 BC. I have gone through painstaking efforts to isolate these two factions in Italy, and I have money flowing in from Gaul, Spain, Greece, the Balkans, western Africa, and the northern Levant. My navy had full control over the Western Mediterranean. The Roman Senate called for the suicide of my faction leader, [[FourStarBadass who led the conquest of Carthage, Spain, and Gaul]], and I refused. I had an army of Praetorian cohorts, archer auxilia, and praetorian cavalry, in Byzantium, but I knew that the other Roman factions would try to hit Arretium and Ariminium. So I gathered a group of Praetorian Cohorts, twelve in number but all of them raw recruits, and an onager crew, put the faction heir, Julianus Victor, in command, and prepared to assault Rome directly from Arretium. My navy was blockading every Italian port outside my own. I figured my far advanced units would plow through the pre-Marian hordes of the Senate. I reached the city walls and was preparing siege works. Suddenly, an army of the Senate attacked me, deploying from a fortress near the dock. A nearby Brutii army also joined in. I was surrounded. The battle took place near a forest outside Rome. The Brutii and Senate reinforcements were marching from the south, the garrisons of Rome from the west. They far outnumbered me. I had roughly 1000 men. Their numbers were close to 3500. I occupied a small hill to the southeast, where my onagers were set up. Three of my cohorts were diverted to deal with the Rome garrison, to prevent them from enveloping me. My onagers started pelting the enemy field armies, but they began splitting off. I decided to charge all but one cohort into the enemy armies. They all converged on this band and were merciless cut down, but not without doing serious damage to my army. In the end, only a single cohort still stood after the battle, but the field armies were decimated. I quickly repositioned my remaining cohort to the other front, where three of my cohorts were fighting against 700 men guarding the city. The battle had reduced them to about 100 men, while two enemy triarii regiments remained. I charged, my general leading the way. The armies were bled down, but I won. In the end, Julianus Julius had a gold chevron, the one remaining cohort had two silver chevrons, and we took the city. The best part was the Brutii faction leader getting thrown off his horse by an onager shot. Two turns later, my reinforcements from the east landed near Messana and prevented a Scipii attack. Within the next three turns, I had control of all Sicily, Rome, and Croton. * In Napoleon Total War, I was Playing through the Europe Campaign for France. The First Combatant, The Austrian Army, With Intensely Professional, Battle Hardened Soldiers in it's rank and File, Marched

on, The Victor of Countless Battles Throughout Europe, Comprised of the best that the Grand Descendants of The Holy Roman Empire had to Offer. Opposing Them? The Upstart Napoleon Bonaparte, His Men Outnumbered by Two Thirds. Now, As we stood Little to no Chance in an Open Fight, We used somewhat less than conventional Tactics [[DontExplainTheJoke (We Ambushed Them.)]] From that Point, Victory was Ours. Our Infantrymen Shot the Panicking Austrians, as they fumbled around desperately, Our Calvary wiped their General from this Existence, and our Cannon Rained Death from the skies. The last Austrian Survivors of our Cunning Plan ran like bewildered children. [[CurbStompBattle The Glorious Grande Arme lost less than 150 men.]] * In Empire's Grand Campaign, I Played as the Ottoman Empire, took over Austria, Poland, Russia, Persia, Northern India, North America, and Iceland; played as The Dutch and took over Prussia, France, India, The Americas, Spain, Italy, and Iceland; and played as the Maratha Confederacy and took over all of India, The Netherlands, Denmark, Canada, Scotland, and Iceland. I like taking over Iceland in this game. * This troper, playing as Denmark, is currently at war with the Holy Roman Empire. My biggest success? The scene: A foggy hillside, my army of 611 on top, the German army of 600 on the bottom. I have five groups of archers, the general, two dismounted knight units, and two units of spearmen. RainOfArrows was in full effect. They never got close, and a lucky shot killed their general. Soon after they broke and ran, and I finally had my army break ranks to chase them down. The ending result? No casualties for me...but only 45 enemy soldiers got away. This has been only the latest in a line of [[CurbStompBattle curb stomps]] during my war with them. Right now I'm not allowed to attack them because of a decree from the pope, but I plan to resume the offensive after the mission is over. * A classic example of ArtificialStupidity: this troper was playing as Norway in the Britannia campaign in Medieval 2:Total War Kingdoms. He had captured a fort in Ireland, after years of them blockading his ports. While the main force was elsewhere, the small garrison of 220 was besieged by 706 Irishmen, with three units of bombards. While a few units walked around the side with ladders and a siege tower, the rest lined up behind the ram to attack the gate. At the same time, the three bombards were also trying to open the gate. This troper won the battle, thanks in part that the AI kept firing artillery into its own units. * I was playing with my brother in Rome: Total War, it was a siege, we were defending (He used the Greek Cities, I used Germania) vs Rome (Hooray for historical inaccuracy), basically, Germania sucked or at least I don't know how to use it, but my brother had the Spartans, he put one squad of them in the gate, nothing, literally, NOTHING, passed through, at the end of the attack, only two of those Spartans came out alive, those were though. (Meanwhile, I leaded a charge of basic Germanic infantry towards cavalry because I was bored, '''horses flied''' * Games like TotalWar lend themselves to fun alternate histories, but there was a particularly memorable one for this troper in Medieval I. I was playing as the Almohads, and while looking for rebels to bribe,

I noted that the rebel leader of Valencia was none other than ElCid. I successfully bribed him. In this AlternateHistory, El Cid converted to Islam, became ''Amir'' Cid, and died leading a jihad against Egypt. He was one of my best generals, and almost certainly went down in history as an Almohad national hero. * My first Crowning Moment of Awesome in ''Napoleon'' came when I learned that a reasonably fast ship (preferably a 38-gun Frigate, or later a 38-gun Steam Ship) can take on pretty much anything. And I do mean ''anything'' - I subsequently took on England's entire 20-ship fleet (lead by two 122-gun SoLs and a handful of other large vessels) with just the one Frigate. Unfortunately this really [[GameBreaker breaks the balance]] of all Naval combat - you can make ridiculous amounts of money capturing enemy shipping, not to mention being able to maintain absolute naval superiority (and hence naval trade) across the entire map with just a handful of relatively cheap ships. This ''sort of'' ends when the enemy begins training Bomb Ketches and Rocket Ships, though by that point you're probably swimming in money already. * I was playing the Stainless Steel mod for Medieval II, as the Moorish Caliphate. While I was at war with Portugal, all of a sudden Castile (one of the two "Spainish" factions, based around Leon and Toledo with an emphasis on cavalry and javelinmen) came out of nowhere and laid siege to one of my smaller towns with a full stack of over two thousand men. Fortunately, in a bit of tactical insight I'd stationed some extra professional infantry there in case of attack (ironically, they were there to defend against an attack by Aragon, the other "Spanish" faction), mostly consisting of Arab infantry (heavily-armored spearmen) and Urban Militia (heavy militia swordsmen). I also had crossbow and spear militia, with some Desert Cavalry as backup. The Urban Militia and crossbows manned the walls while the Arab Infantry and spears covered the gate. The Castilians advanced into crossbow fire, their seige tower reaching the walls. The spearmen they sent up met the Urban Militia and were cut down, while their siege tower brought enemy Sword Militia onto the walls further down, resulting in a bloody struggle on the walls between formations of sword and shield. The gate crashed down thanks to the enemy ram, and the majority of enemy infantry stormed through, met by the spearmen. The Castilians pushed through into the courtyard, driving my numerically inferior spearmen back and outward, until there was a wide, thin ring of spearmen around the Castilian invaders....up until the Castilians moved all the way inside the gate, and my spearmen encircled them, blocking the gate and making it impossible for the Castilians to flee. In other words, we encircled and somehow outnumbered a numerically superior enemy. Then, in a stroke of pure luck, one of my spearmen managed to strike down the Castilian general, and at the same time the swordsmen on the walls broke and fled, freeing up the Urban Milita to come down and assist the main forces. The Castilians, now leaderless, somehow surrounded by numerically inferior opponents, and facing enemy reinforcements, broke ranks and tried to flee - but the men holding the gate stopped most of them, forcing half the Castilian army into a final bloody stand. When the last remaining enemy soldier was struck down, only about a hundred

Castilians had managed to escape the battle alive, fleeing for the hills in panic. Immediately afterward, a Castilian diplomat showed up and sued for peace. Showed ''those'' infidels the power of Islam! * I was playing the Netherlands in Empire and was at war with Spain. One of my atlantic fleets was suddenly attacked by a superior Spanish armada commanded by one of their finest admirals. Seeing no chance of actually winning this battle, i decided to at least kill the admiral. My flagship was ordered to board the enemy flagship while the rest of the ships would distract the Spanish armada. The boarding maneuver was successful but my flagship was heavily damaged in the process and the other ships were sunk or routed one by one. As the battle raged on my flagship was still under heavy fire and finally sunk while the enemy flagship managed to break loose. But the fighting on board the Spanish ship wasn't over. A small group of sailors and marines were still fighting for their lives but the enemy admiral was still alive. I tried to buy them some time with the small rest of my fleet but they weren't going to hold on much longer. Finally, the small band of survivors aboard the enemy vessel took down the admiral before the scattered remains of my fleet routed and the battle was lost. Still an awesome moment for the crew who accomplished their task even while their ship sank and ships all around them were fleeing. * This troper has many different save files from Empire in which the faction has taken over the entire world as a result of almost ten days of playing in three months. * This troper (Unown) was playing Medieval IIs multi-player in a 3 way battle. The map was Spanish Fields. I was the Scotts, with my opponents Moors and some central European faction. ** As the battle opened the third player cowered from the field when he saw the might of the Moorish Missile cavalry, his men left the field before the Muslims could even pluck a single bow. With one man gone in less than 2 shakes of a lambs tail it did not guarantee a quick battle - The brave Scottsmen and the brave Mormons fought bitterly for over an hour in a long series of charges and countercharges, of which I lost my cavalry early, then he lost his HorseArchers to my highlanders. ** In the end, it came down to two units of ballistae between us. He was out numbered 13:9, but he had the higher ground. For 40 seconds we traded shots until he landed a shot which destroyed one of my units two ballistae. Hastefully, realising that my men lacked the fire-power that my opponent had and that my men couldn't hit a minister with a shoe, I order my ballistae crew into a desperate up-hill charge which narrowly wins. To this day this remains my only victory online, but it was epic and hard-fought. To this day I still find it amazing that the battle ended with bastillae crew in fisty-cups. Just shows you how crap I am. ----------Go back to [[TotalWar the main page]] and - wait, the Pope just called a crusade. Grab your sword, you're going to Antioch.

TotemPoleTrench * This Troper has seen this performed in RealLife by two seventeen-

year-old boys. They called themselves Hugh J. Tallbody. * This Troper's friends tried it twice, and video taped it. It's one of the funniest things he's ever seen. When he finds the video he'll post it. * This Troper swears he saw one of these walking round a supermarket. * If tabletop RPG characters count: this Troper's current {{GURPS}} is a {{hivemind}} of rats. Whenever social interaction is needed, they have a mannequin (stolen from a clothes store), a hat, and a trenchcoat. You do the math. [[HilarityEnsues Add in DEX checks whenever they try to gesture...]] * There is a statue in this troper's town square called "Clever Disguise". From the rear, it looks exactly like a cloaked, wide-hatted traveler. Under the cloak and hat, only visible from the front, are a squirrel, a huge lizard and a pair of stilts. ---Go back to TotemPoleTrench. ----

ToTheBatNoun * This troper's local zoo tends to name its landmarks after the nearby attractions, and recently opened a literal Bat Bridge. I gleefully took full advantage of this when we got round to crossing it. * This Troper tends to say things like this, especially when it is a place he frequently goes to, like his dorm room ("To the crazy lair!"), or to the cafeteria, ("To foooood!") * This troper has a friend who, upon visiting for the first time from England, became relatively fascinated by Wal-Mart stores. It became a running gag for each of her visits; the declaration of a need for some item would prompt her to point skywards and cry "To ''Wal-Mart''!" It's funniest when the object in question can't actually be found at a Wal-Mart, such as when Troper's husband commented that he'd lost his mind. * This troper tends to do this frequently. One memorable incident was when this troper was interning at the Sheriff's Department, and needed to go fix a computer at a different facility. He exclaimed, in suitably dramatic fashion, "To the squad car!". This troper's supervisor gave him funny looks for the rest of the day. * This troper doesn't do it much in person, but online, she tends to go "To the X cave!" when she needs to look something up on X (for example, Wikipedia -> "the Wiki cave"). ** Sorry, but this troper is officially stealing that. * [[{{Nomic}} This troper]] does this often. Back when his cellphone's ringtone was the loading screen music from Metroid Prime, whenever tho phone rang he ran to answer it while shouting "To the Metroid Phone!". He also uses "To the Legionmobile!" and "To the Games Workshop!". Some times he declares "Scene Transition!" while leaving somewhere, and does the sound that plays during a scene transition in the 60s Batman TV-show. Sadly he still has to walk there. ** ...[[MalachiteDragon This Troper]] has the Final Fantasy Victory Tune as his ringtone... * This troper does this frequently with her voice either

[[DeadpanSnarker dripping with sarcasm and irony]] or [[LargeHam filled with unnecessary amounts of drama]]. Scene transition music included. Bonus points if she really gets into it and starts humming the Batman theme (or something else) with "Pow!" "Zing!" and other ridiculous/random sound effects. * When getting ready to leave for an anime convention, this troper pointed dramatically, grabbed a nearby friend around the shoulders, and declared "Quick! To the Conmobile!" ** Oh my god, ARE YOU ME? Though the car in question was my friend's sister's... * This troper used to go to an anime club with a guy who used to shout "To the Boozatorium!" before nipping to the student bar to grab a pint during the break. * What, you mean bellowing this as you charge into the parking lot and do a flying leap into the open doors of a waiting Mercedes-Benz isn't standard operating procedure? (We're the only car on the highway with the moon roof down who spend the entirety of the evening con-going commute with the moon-roof down bellowing 'SODIUM SODIUM SODIUM SODIUM SODIUM SODIUM SODIUM SODIUM FLEDERMAUSMANN!' like complete and utter assholes.) And apparently, whoever else may be driving the car, I'm always [[Main/HoYay their Robin]]. To which I say, ew. Everything else I own is similarly dubbed, except the computer room, which is, for a little mixing things up, the Fortress of Solitude. * Subversion: [[{{Momonga}} this troper]] and her friends say "to the Batmobile!"... when they make a ''toast''. * Thanks to [[XenusOregard this troper's]] real name, and a silly sense of humor, his room is known as the "Patcave," and his car as the "Patmobile." He's even done a theme song on one or two occasions. * This troper inexplicably has an image in his head of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Gendo Ikari]] shouting "Quickly subcommander, to the Gendomobile!" ** [[SeanTucker THIS troper]] thinks that is MadeOfWin. * [[LWGadra This troper]] often declared "To the War Wagon", a friend's old station wagon, when expressing a desire to go somewhere. * @/{{Bisected8}} once yelled (when advised to google something) [[TheInternetIsForPorn "To the porn network!"]], while pointing dramatically and then calmly opened IE on the computer he was sitting in front of. * A year or two back one of this troper's friends owned a car which inexplicably seemed to stall less when filled with male passengers, it was decided that clearly the car must be gay, it was far too butch a car to be female. "Quickly to the batty-mobile" * Our group, the 'tards (tarados), have come with a bunch of stuff of that sort. The car we use is now the 'tardmobile, while the complab we frequent is the 'tardcave. Needless to say, we ham it up as needed. (And someone provides the sounds effects!) * This Troper gets an urge to say "To the skies!" every time he climb stairs. * Once in grade 10, my (awesome) computers teacher said, upon being asked what something was, "TO THE INTERNET!" To which ThisTroper replied "doodeleedoodeleedoodeleedoodeleedoo!" * "TO THE IT-ROOM!" "TO *INSERT CLASS HERE*!" and "TO LUNCH" all show

up pretty often. * this troper frequently cries "To the kitchen!" or "To lecture hall south 3!" in a dramatic fashion. * In a discussion in my leadership class, the teacher asked, "So, what do you think empathy means?" I then yelled, "TO WEBSTER!" before jumping off my desk and running across the room to the dictionary. * This troper has a tendency to say "TO THE *LOCATION*" while pointing in the right direction when he's with friends. He uses his umbrella (the noncollapsing kind) when he has it. When he's alone, he usually does this but half the time, he points in the wrong direction and ends up doubling back with a sheepish expression. * This troper and her friend are fond of saying, "TO THE WIKI-MOBILE!" * This troper does this all the time, though not enough to annoy his friends (or so he likes to think). * When with friends, I frequently yell 'To the library!/swimming pool!/sports center!/maths class!' etc * Any regular tropers who don't use some variant of "To the <insert location/object>" out there? * ...Bat Toilet! Where else? Complete with dramatic gesture and pointing into the distance. * [[RayAyanami This troper]] drives a Civic Hybrid, and as a result of the backlash against hybrid cars (particularly Priuses, but whatever; a hybrid's a hybrid), he calls his car the [[ICallItVera Failmobile]]. Incidentally, this troper, as of this writing, is about to leave his house. So, to the Failmobile! * Back when this troper's family still owned a minivan, the rallying cry was "To the Batvan!" Guess that's what Batman would've used to take his kids to soccer games. * This troper is quite territorial... and refers to her room as either the Geekcave or the Fortress of Solitude. * When [[{{Indefatigable}} this troper]] was a telescope operator, the most common battle cry was "To the observatory!" in a [[TheSimpsons Martin Prince]] voice (followed by one or more other staffers singing "We are the Superfriends!"). * This troper prefers "To the Hindenburg!," preferably followed by one of his friends humming the little sting at the end. * {{NeoSilverThorn}}: My best friend finally got his own car, a beat up Cheverolet Cavalier station wagon. No less than two days later, we'd dubbed it the Jeffmobile. After an incident in the next town over where we managed to both lock the keys in the car ''and'' forget where we'd parked the damn thing, the phrase "I can't believe you lost the damn Jeffmobile!" became a RunningGag battlecry for us. * To the {{Smerf}}-mobile! * For grade 9 english, this troper and some friends had to rewrite a scene from {{Romeo and Juliet}} in modern English. We did Mercutio and Tybalt's sword fight. After Tybalt (my friend) stabbed Mercutio (me), he exclaimed "To the Tybalt mobile!" and ran out of the room going "nananana nananana Tybalt!" ** So much win. * I frequently settle disputes by shouting "To the Internet!" dramatically, and scurrying off to the computer. * Randomly shouting out "To the <insert random thing here>" is a

running joke between me and my friends, especially since as one of my friends is called 'Robin'. This punchline has been used for actual references to the Bat cave, completely random lines and Dead Baby Comedy in the past. -> Female Friend who's called Robin: I've always wanted a baby. -> Male Friend: Come on Robin, we'll need lube, strawberries and cigarettes for later! To the BatBed! * I used to Storytell a VampireTheRequiem game where the characters were all members of the Ordo Dracul, whose members were nicknamed "Dragons". Whenever they would go somewhere, one player would always shout, "To the Dragonmobile!" which, we joked, was a beat up old van with painted-over windows. ** If my Dragonmobile is anything to go by, it's an old Toyota Camry. (This troper is a big fan of dragons, and after she put some dragon plushies in her car where they could be seen through the back window to make it easier to find, her friends christened it with that name. And yes, we do say "To the Dragonmobile!") * When this troper and his younger brother were kids, we often pretended to be intrepid adventurers and explorers over dinner. I would ask at the beginning of each adventure, "to where?". * This troper does this with his car. "To the HONDA!" Complete with dramatic finger pointing in the direction of the parking lot. He also likes to [[LargeHam hammily]] shout "AWAY!" and make like he's going to bolt out of the room... before calmly walking out. * When this troper learns of some TV show, or movie he wants to see he will often say something like "Quick! To the BatTorrent Client!" * Oh my CLAMP I only just realised how much I do this. * This troper has for many years enjoyed the all-purpose statement of "TO THE [[BuffySpeak NOT-HERE-PLACE!"]] * This troper sometimes leaves work announcing to his coworkers: Same Bat-Time, same Bat-Channel! * In {{Tropers/StongRadd}}'s webcomic-to-be: ->'''Mark''': ''TO THE EPIC MOBILE!'' ->'''Mike''': ''Um...we don't have an epic mobile.'' * This troper just wants an opportunity to yell "TO THE BATWOMB!!!!" to someone. If you don't get it, say it aloud and think of what it sounds like... * This troper uses this occasionally. I've always wanted to shout, " TO THE COMPUTER!" for some reason, probably because I spend about 3 to 4 hours a day on the machine. But generally, it's just "TO THE HOUUUUUSE!" "TO THE MALLLLLL!" or "TO THE MOOOOOOVIES!!" ---Tell Commissioner Gordon we're on our way. ToTheBatNoun! <<|TroperTales|>>

ToughRoom * This troper recently performed with his friends as hip-hop trio As We Enter at a sort of charity type deal for our local library. Sadly, we might as well have had a brick wall for an audience; case in point,

when we told everybody to put their hands up, only two people, an elderly couple, actually did. * [[Tropers/JohnnyBGoode This troper]]. Sometimes I'm not really that funny, but there are some people who refuse to acknowledge that any joke I make is legitimate. (Not kidding) This also happens a lot when I'm in school or somewhere where I don't know a lot of people. (some people find me so unfunny I'm hilarious, actually) * Me. I may not be very funny, but it seems how funny people think I am is inversely proportional to how much time I spend with them. Consequently, my closest friends and my family think I'm an idiot, but people I see once a month have expressed a desire to kidnap me and force me to make jokes for them. * This troper is viewed as far funnier at school than home, leading me to believe that I live in a ToughRoom (well, house, but you get the point). Oddly enough, the one I told which was very funny at home didn't work at school. Maybe everyone has a better sense of humour at school... * This troper revels in the fact that most of his jokes are groan inducingly awful puns, because in a constant stream of snark, there is the occasional line that people find really funny. Unfortunately, it is all just proof that I am becoming my dad... ---Wow...ToughRoom ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TourettesSyndrome * This troper has had it for about 12 years now. It makes every day a living hell, so if you ever find someone who also suffers like me, don't make fun of them. Show them sympathy. * In either third and fourth grade, I had Mrs. Whetstein. One day during those two grades, I think it was spring, my Tourettes was REALLY bad. Mine, back then, caused me to think it was a wonderful idea to mimic animal noises. (I have been repeatedly assured it IS a symptom.) That day, wolf howls were the 'weapon' of choice. So, I was awooing away, when the come inside bell rang. All us happy little kids run for the doors, but I get stopped. This is WORD FOR WORD what she said to me. "If you don't stop making that noise, '''I'll spank you'''." For a disorder symptom I had no control over. I was about seven at the time. My full list is ADHD, Tourettes, and OCD, though I do not have any of them as bad...now. Back then? They made my life a living hell. Thank you, Mrs.Whetstein, for adding to it all.

TowerDefense * This troper uses a strategy in AgeOfEmpires that is basicly getting the other guy to attack and use TowerDefense to kill his mooks.

ToxicFriendInfluence * I remember when I was a freshman in highschool, I spent a year

sitting in the back corner of my math class with a bunch of drug using punk kids who were always fighting, sleeping, or cheating on their homework. My grades plummeted in that class around them, I got a terrible attitude with their influence, and it lead to a delightfully awkward moment where I tried to sneak out of class early with them when the teacher wasn't looking, only to realize I left my bag in the class and had to do the walk of shame back inside. Eventually I learned they weren't too good for me, and I stopped being so easily influenced by other people. ''The More You Know''~ * I had one in school. She liked to make condescending remarks about any music that wasn't indie rock, make excuses for not doing her work and complain about those who got better grades than her, and look down on other people for not sharing her opinions. I kept trying to anticipate what her reaction would be and adjust my opinion/behavior accordingly, but there was always something wrong in her eyes. She was also incredibly cynical (not the fun kind, either) and told anyone who wasn't her particular brand of cynical that they were unenlightened. I broke away and went back to being my normal energetic self. Now I'm extra careful about how I act around others, just to make sure I don't pick up behaviors I don't want. ---You can't pick your family, but you can [[ToxicFriendInfluence pick your poison...]]

ToyotaTripwire * This troper has been on the receiving end of this trope, only offset by a few inches and clipping the back corner of the car instead of smacking into the door, as well as just plain cycling into the back of a car and sliding off the back. * This troper's father tells a story of how while riding his bike down a hill, he was forced to dodge a car door opening. This sent him out of control towards a barbed wire fence. He missed the barbed wire, but smashed his head on a post instead. * This troper managed to avoid the bulk of the door, but clipped the sharp edge (car doors have a sharp edge?!?) with his foot; it sliced right through the side and sole of a heavy army boot and half an inch into the side of my foot! * Sometimes [[Tropers/SgtFrog1 this troper]] just crashes into cars. And other things. I always ask to make sure the item I crashed into is okay first, because I can heal; a car can't. * On a narrow street with cars parked on both sides, i had to bike behind a car. Cue me slamming into it's boot door when it stopped suddenly. A second time, the car was stationary and i was the one who stopped suddenly because I'd absentmindedly biked into the back of it at full speed.

ToyShip * [[WillyFourEyes I]] (hate addressing myself as ThisTroper, but I)

saw a fan's DeviantArt drawing of [[MadScientistsBeautifulDaughter Penny Crygor]] and [[{{Otaku}} 9-Volt]] sharing a NintendoDS, and had to [[DistractedByTheShiny turn my attention to something else]] to keep from {{squee}}ing for five solid minutes. ** There's also a small [=dA=] club dedicated to [[LesYay Penny/Ashley]] fanart. When I saw it, [[FascinatingEyebrow I was intrigued and confused]]. *** *thinks* *pictures it* Ye gods,it works! * This Troper is obsessed with [[YuGiOh5ds Lucciano/Rua]]. But no one shares my opinion. They're both like, eleven, and they're so cute :D * This Tropette, interestingly enough, and her boyfriend/guyfriend. The attraction faded, but for a year or two, we were the poster children for toy shipping. * [[GwenStacyWannabe I]] have done this for a couple of middleschoolers that ride my bus. But then one of them left to be homeschooled, which was kind of depressing. ** So they got {{Put on a Bus}} by being taken off... * This Troper had his first major crush on a woman around the age of six, and his first crush on a girl his own age in the 3rd grade. Then there was an incident with a girl on his pee-wee soccer team that he tries not to think about anymore... * This male troper had the urge at the age of 6 (kindergarten) to ask out a girl of the same age. She accepted and from then on we were a couple. We would walk together, talk together, eat together, and comfort one another. She even kissed me on the cheek on Valentines day. by 1st grade she had gathered more boyfriends than just me, but I didn't mind cuz I was the main one. She suddenly left in the 2nd grade leaving a large hole in this troper's heart for a long time. To this day, she is nowhere to be found. * This troper roleplays as a child character in one game. Said character has a best friend, and they hang out together all the time. This troper totally ships them, they're ''so freaking cute'' sometimes. * This troper's primary school, definitely. We were shipping each other all over the place. Lean too close to a girl and they say you slept with her (we were ''definitely'' the opposite of ChildrenAreInnocent). Talk to a boy and they say you like him. This troper was an Assistant Matchmaker and often tried to get her classmates in {{Ship Tease}}-esque situations. Our taunts did go too far sometimes (one girl ended up in tears) but did that stop us? Noooo. ** It became less of a ToyShip when we met again at a school reunion of sorts as teenagers. We had all more or less forgotten our more... radical experiences, but we still managed to poke fun at the Shipping we used to take seriously. I haven't seen them again, so I don't know if those ships we made up were sailing. Some of them ''did'' go to the same high school, after all... * This troper met the girl he's always loved in preschool, and they've always been close. * ThisTroper just got done reading {{minus}} and has decided that minus and the green-haired girl make a cute couple. * From ages nine to twelve, this troper had a male best friend. We

were told constantly "you two will make the most adorable couple when you grow up", and our first kiss during a game of Truth or Dare was one of the great excitement moments of the year among our friendship group. We're both 18 now, still friends, but I'm gay and he's close to asexual. It was cute while it lasted, though. * This Troper had a best friend growing up who she was rather PsychoLesbian for, becoming wildly jealous when the girl would spend time with others (even her cousin!)The crush lasted from the time she was about seven to age fourteen. ** This lesbian troper started liking girls when she was about six. Of course she was raised in an ultra-conservative family and didn't realize what was going on. "OMG! Olivia is my best friend! I want to be her [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean best friend]]. I want to be with her all the time forever and ever and ever!!!" * This troper's little cousin used to hang out with a neighbor's kid. They were best friends, and would retreat into their own world to play whenever they were together. This troper shipped them for a good long while, despite them both being about five years old. They would.. share things.. and it was so cute... * Among [[SalFishFin This Troper]]'s many church/choir stories, there is this three-year-old named Rachel who hangs around ''every single male her age'' when she can. The ShipToShipCombat quickly became SeriousBusiness among everyone over age 13. This Troper once called Rachel the [[CrossesTheLineTwice church bicycle]]. Hilarity Ensued. * When I was 3, apparently (I don't remember it) I developed a crush with one of my cousins. We were very close and touchy and we were together all the time; Eventually, that feeling disappeared, and we both followed our own romantic paths, but my aunts and uncles keep remind us about that, and how cute we looked. I don't know, but it creeps me out how my family doesn't seem annoyed by the, you know... [[KissingCousins the "relative" factor]] * One day I was glancing around during church and noticed that a couple of the little kids I tend to babysit downstairs were looking at each other from across the aisles and waving. I had to bite my lip from squeeing at the adorablility of the pair of toddlers. * This Troper had an "unofficial" girlfriend when he was in second grade. The both of us actually got in trouble when a teacher saw us holding hands. No, really. It's a shame, as neither of us have spoken to each other since then. * This Troper had a girlfriend when he was young. We had our first kiss when we were 7. Sadly, they both moved away to different towns at around the same time five years later. ** That sounds almost exactly like this troper's story, only with "boyfriend" instead of "girlfriend". ... HaveWeMet? * This Troper got 'married' on the playground in the first grade....then divorced in second grade when we weren't in the same class again. * This Troper had a 'girlfriend' when he was five. * This troper's kid brother was the ring bearer in her aunt's wedding when he was six. He walked down the aisle with the five-year-old flower girl, and later dubbed her "his wife." * [[@/BonsaiForest This troper]] saw lots of this in third and fourth

grade. There was a lot of talk of certain groups of boys/girls going out, and he himself even had a crush on a certain girl and once kissed her (wish I could remember if it was the cheek or the lips). The two of us later became platonic friends in fourth and fifth grade, but the crush was sadly gone then. * Apparently, this troper's mom was doing this when I was in fouth grade. Funny enough, she was shipping me and my crush at the time. * This troper had a crush on a boy in first grade, and never since. *shrug* * My nephew (age 3 at the time) once met this little girl at a resturant. They both stared at each other for a few minutes, with the parents and watching people squeeing and remarking how cute they look. * I work at a preschool where there are these two kids that have always walked the line between HeterosexualLifePartners and HoYay, but this morning I caught them pretty much making out while the teacher was busy with another kid ([[ThatCameOutWrong no,]] [[{{Shotacon}} not]] [[BrainBleach like]] ''[[NoJustNo that]]''.) They seemed to be unaware of the fact that it isn't what all "best friends" ''do'', but either way...{{squick}}. * In the pre-school class that I worked at a few years ago, there was a little boy and girl who were such a cute little couple. They were always playing together and calling eachother boyfriend and girlfriend. * This troper has had this happen to and around him alot (I'm only 13 though). One example is a girl in kindergarden telling me that she was going to marry me when we grew up everyday. I also had a best friend who was on the border between [[HeterosexualLifePartners heterosexual life partner]] and [[HoYay ho yay]]. Along with that both my siblings have a boyfriend/girlfriend (I don't however because I'm gay and there are not many 13 year old who are out of the closet) * This troper went to a bridal shower for a friend of hers. The bride's mom was shipping her two-year-old granddaughter (from the bride's older brother) with a little boy who had come with his mom. There was another little girl there whose mother ''also'' thought her little girl would be cute with the little boy. ToyShip TriangRelations? * This troper, around age 7, when attending a neighbor's birthday party, signed his card "the boy who loves her." They had play dates for a while before the troper moved away and they downgraded to penpals (which, given the lack of the internet and the attention span of children, didn't last long). While it doubltessly wouldn't have gone anywhere in the long run, this troper can't help but wonder how that relationship would have developed if he hadn't moved away. * This trooper fell in love when she was in kindergarden. The feeling was so strong that she remembers it even nowadays (and she is 18). And when she was 5, and when she was 7... 8... 9... Her first date happened when she was 8! She doesn't remember it and mother WASN'T happy (boy was 9)... This trooper believes toyshiping is more than real * This Troper works in a nursery and there's a particular little boy who is very fond of a particular little girl. We hear such comments as, "I like Amelia." and "Amelia is my girlfriend." He asks to sit

next to her during meals and packs pretend picnics for her. It is incredibly adorable. * I used to have a friend whose 5-year-old step-brother and 3-year-old step-sister "got married". Even though they're brother and sister, it was adorable. ---Don't you think [[ToyShip Toy and Ship]] look ''soooo cuuuuute'' together? ---<<|TroperTales|>>

ToyStory '''''List of people who cried at ToyStory3''''' * This 21-year-old, emotionally-mature troper has two words for you. [[spoiler: "THE CLAAAAAAAAAAAAWWW."]] Seriously. I was completely fine throughout the entire movie. Fine during the buildup to the climax and the [[spoiler: horrific realization of the incinerator scene and seemingly inevitable tragedy.]] Just digging my nails into the movie theatre seat REALLY HARD, but tearless, as [[spoiler: the toys all just silently hold each other in the face of death.]] But that... simple, BEAUTIFUL IronicEcho, as [[spoiler: the Claw descends in a QUITE LITERAL "DeusExMachina" hand of {{God}}...]] Tears of relief and utter joy and affection for these characters - and everything bottled up from the whole movie plus around 10 years of "big-girls-don't-cry" repression since. Thank you, {{Pixar}}. You probably just saved me around 3 years of therapy. * 22 year old here. * 23. --{{Tropers/Jonn}} * 23. [[spoiler: "Thanks, Guys."]] Aww, damn! -{{Tropers/Tyrekecorrea}} * I'm 30, and I love the Toy Story movies, as do my parents. The three of us got together to see the film, and we were, all of us, ''weeping''. If you can't cry at all during this film, then you're made out of STONE! * [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20396740,00.html EW did a goddamn article about how everyone cried at Toy Story 3]] * 21 and I bawled like I was a little girl again. * 20 years old. This Troper has grown up with the movies and when she saw this...My God, she was sobbing throughout nearly the entire film. This was in part because of the fact that my little sister had two months before leaving for college when this film came out. * 25 years old and ThisTroper had just graduated from college a few weeks before she saw it. It's marked the only time she's ever cried in a movie theater. * 31 and [[MenDontCry male]]. Tears at the beginning and end with plenty to spare between that, which never really happened before (only really happened before at the end of about 3 different movies in this lifetime). Dammit Pixar, tear ducts are like nipples, men have them but aren't meant to use them - I hope you're buried in awards for this, you've earned them. * This 14 year old troper cried, but his 40-something year old dad

cried harder. * This 21 year old male troper, with my 19 and 22 year old best friends (again, male) went to the midnight premiere and were all balling our eyes out. None of said anything to each other for a good 10 minutes after the end and we just kind of sat there as the rest of the theatre emptied. After we finally left we just kind of hung around outside for almost an hour trying to come to grips with the whole thing. None of use wanted be the one to say "ok, I think it's time to go" * This 18 year old troper made the mistake of watching it about a month and a half into college, after having packed only one toy to bring along and leaving the rest at home. "Great, now I have guilt!" * I took my younger siblings to the movie theater as a farewell, and at the next hour was still crying over a plushie (last gift grandpa) over the road going to the college for first time (longest trip of my life) * 17 year old female here. The beginning got me, and at the end when Andy's mom broke down, I was a wreck from there to the end. Doesn't help I'm graduating next June. * This troper went to a 3D showing in a local theater. I'm 18, headed to college, and I bawled like crazy throughout the whole damn movie. * This troper, a 19 year old male, and his 16 year old sister were inches away from crying. Their 45 year old mother cried. * This Troper and her friend since 8th grade, who are both now 18, went to the local drive-in to see the movie. With us, I brought my old Woody and Buzz dolls. I cradled Woody the entire movie, claiming "I have a feeling at the end of this, Woody's going to need a hug." It turns out I needed the hug, as I absolutely sobbed during the last 15 minutes or so, getting Woody's shirt wet. And for old time's sake, I squeezed his chest and his little voice box told me "You're my favorite deputy!" I was inconsolable for several minutes after the movie ended. To top it all off, we saw this about a week before I had to leave for college. * [[Tropers/LaPetiteSinge WORD.]] 22-year-old female who literally moved out on her own that ''week'', sobbing hysterically whilst seeing the movie alone and probably scaring the kids in the row ahead of her. Classy. * This troper is 18 and just gave away a majority of her old toys (including a beloved one named Jessie... she was from Team Rocket but still). I cried throughout the entire movie while her nine year old cousin and the small children around her gave her weird looks. * This 14 year old troper, as well as her 50 year old mother, both completely bawled. * 15, but I have to believe that this was the only movie that caused me to cry so hard in a long time. I brought my whole family to the IMAX to see it; my grandparents my sister my parents and my cousin BAWLED and we all cryed together. My grandmother recently had knee surgery and she cannot sit up in a chair because it is not good for her, but [[spoiler: as the toys headed to the incinerator,]] my nanna sits up for the first time in 2 and a half months. I was crying twice the tears in the last 15 minutes and all the way home gathering all the characters and crying myself to sleep.

* ThisTroper was 18 when he saw the movie in theaters with his family. For me, this was during the summer after I graduated from high school and was preparing to go to college. The scene at the end where [[spoiler: Andy gives his toys to Bonnie]] made me cry like a baby. * 18 years old and male. No work of fiction, including Toy Story 3, has ever made me cry by being sad. But the very end of the film was so emotionally powerful and heartwarming... I just teared up. Even though, due to technical problems in the theater, I couldn't actually hear any of the dialogue. It was that good. * 22 and male. Spent ten minutes trying desperately to hold the tears back for the sake of my 6-year-old cousin beside me, just about managing to hold it together until I heard sniffles coming from my usually [[TheStoic stoic]] grandfather. *sniff* * [[{{Tropers/Grinder}} This Troper]], 18, male, was going to university after the summer it came out. Going with my brother, his girlfriend, and our parents, I somehow managed to retain my composure ''throughout the entire movie''. Even my dad ''weeped'', and he ''never'' cries. ''Ever''. During the [[spoiler:passing of the torch with Andy and Bonnie]], I nearly lost it multiple times. Especially the part where [[spoiler:Andy says Woody wouldn't let her down]]. Then they had to go and [[spoiler:have Bonnie ''make Woody wave goodbye'']]. I had to bite my cheeks to keep myself from bawling as [[spoiler:Andy drove away]], and just as [[spoiler:Buzz consoled Woody]] I nearly lost it again--the resisting was making it ''worse''. I thought I had made it, and then [[spoiler:''that final shot of the clouds''...]] I have no idea how I managed not to collapse into tears. Afterwards I felt ''worse'' because I didn't cry--because this was a time where it was totally justified. * This 18 year-old troper cried at several points during the movie, especially [[spoiler: Andy "introducing" all his toys to Bonnie.]] Then she was touched again when she realized that most of little kids who went and watched the first movie in the theater (herself included) would be about college age when this movie came out. * This 17 year old Troper completely ''adored'' Toy Story when it first came out. While he held it together through most of the third movie, the ending made him break down. * This Troper's entire goddamn family, including his Grandma and Aunt and Uncle ''and cousins'' went to see it in theaters. I'm 18, my brother is 16, my dad is 38 and my mom is 39. My Grandma recently hit 60, and my aunt, uncle, and cousins are around the same ages as my own family. Not a single one of us left that theater without, at one point during the movie, having tears in our eyes. * 20 year-old who, of course, grew up with the previous two started getting choked up when the hand-holding commenced, started leaking when Woody said goodbye to the others and started straight out bawling when Andy and his mother stood there taking in his empty room. That shot was just perfect and yanked every heartstring possible for someone having moved across the country for college some year and a half year before. From then on out there were tears non-stop, climaxing with the piggyback ride and oh god now I'm crying again. (My date, however, [[JerkAss was not impressed]]) * This (at the time it first came out) 16 year old Troper has only

cried over two movies/shows in the past eight or nine years. The other was at the end of [[{{Torchwood}} Torchwood: Children of Earth]]. She's generally the one doing the consoling for the others who do end up crying over movies. There were definitely no dry eyes that night. Upon seeing it for the second time for her 17th birthday she ended up crying even more than the first time. * This Troper, a 27-year-old male, got at least a little misty throughout most of the film, and then openly wept at the ending. ''Wept.'' He'll at least choke up slightly at damn near anything, but this is only the third film ever in his entire life to outright open the floodgates to that extent (after ''{{Dragonheart}}'', for which he was a lot younger, and ''BigFish'', which should require no excuse or explanation.) * Oh God. I was seven years old when the first film came to theatres (which makes me a 22-year-old, female). And now... I just can't say anything. Believe me, I'm not a sentimentalist and I hate when a story gets overly emotional. But this film rendered me speechless. At some scenes I was crying like a child. And now I'm REALLY glad that I've never, ever thrown away any of my old toys. I hope that even now they are played with. *sniff* * 18-year-old male here. The original was the first movie I ever saw in theaters (at age 3). I saw ''3'' opening night. I cried nonstop during the last 20 minutes. It choked me up seeing my favorite characters from my childhood face [[spoiler:near death]] but in the end get the most satisfying conclusion I could ever hope for just made me lose all control. I've seen it three times and I cried like a baby each time. Hell, I'm tearing up just typing this. Thank you Pixar, for all the memories! * 16 year old male. Toy Story 2 is literally the first film I EVER REMEMBER SEEING. Seeing this movie it broke me. I mean it's the end of the series I grew up on. Just... Just... WAAAAAAAAAA! I'm not crying... I got SandInMyEyes. * {{Tropers/GigaNerd17}}'s play-by-play of his tearjerker moment: 1) [[spoiler:Andy describes his toys' "personalities"]] = eyes got wet. 2) [[spoiler:Andy has to decide whether to give up Woody or not]] = tears start streaming. 3) [[spoiler:Andy takes a painfully long time describing his days with Woody]] = sobbing. 4) [[spoiler: Andy starts playing with Bonnie]] = prolonged sobbing; Dad realizes I'm crying & starts crying too. 5) Movie ends = tears don't stop until 10 minutes later. 6) Edits the "TearJerker" page for Toy Story = eyes get wet again. 7) Reminisces about childhood = tears flow once more. * Being 13, and not knowing a thing about parenting, I can say that everyone wants a kid that grows up to have a personality like Andy. It makes you rethink everything. * This troper was four years old when she saw the first film in theatres. She is 19 now, just out of her first year in college. She has never felt so emotional about a movie before Toy Story 3. When [[spoiler: the Toys almost die in the incinerator]], she was this close to screaming out loud in the theatre and cried like a baby at the ending. She still feels teary eyed every time she sees it. * This fifteen-year-old troper doesn't cry much anymore, never at a movie. I bawwed at the ending.

* [[@/{{Talent2max}} This 16-year-old troper]] along with her [[DeadpanSnarker cynical]] friends and her mother, cried like babies, or soft hearted people, or...[[BuffySpeak cryingish]] [[ShapedLikeItself people who cry at movies]]. [[DustInMyEyes It's nothing, I just pet the cat.]] * [[@/{{Fyrewyre}} This]] fifteen-year-old troper along with her forty-six-year-old father. It does not help that ToyStory was always "our" movie while I was growing up. (Seriously, we watched it twice a day and went through like three tapes before the DVD came out.) * This 21 year old troper, having prepared himself mentally as hearing that this movie WILL MAKE YOU CRY, had brought many tissues with him as he watched the movie. All of them were used. THE LOOKS ON THEIR FACES! I'm tearing up just ''remembering'' that part! * This 26 year old troper [[spoiler: who is currently battling cancer]] had already been made aware of the [[spoiler: end-of-life symbolism]] in the film and had a complete emotional breakdown in the damned theater. * [[FamilyGuy You guys are all pussies. ...........*SOBBING HEAVILY* AND SO AM I!!!]] * This 22 year old troper saw this with his 22 year old wife. Tears were shed by both of us. From remembering when we saw the first 2 movies to growing up and moving out on our own, this movie meant alot to us. * This teenage troper didn't even make it 10 minutes in to the movie. *Sheds manly tears for Bo and Wheezy* * This 17 year old female troper actually held it together until the last scene... but then the tears poured down. My mother cried, my best friend cried, my best friend's mother and sister and (though he wouldn't admit it) dad cried too when we all saw it together. When I saw it two other times I cried then too. Heck, when I saw it with my dad he teared up too. My aunt didn't cry though. She must have tear ducts of steel. * This troper never even cared that much about Toy Story up until I watched Toy Story 3. And still somewhat cried. * The list of tropers of all ages who cried during this scene is of itself a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming. * This troper, a 19 year old female when the movie came out, went to go see it with her best guy friend, who was 18. I had just finished my first year of college and he was going to start in the fall. At the end when [[spoiler:Andy is playing with his toys one last time before giving them away]], both of us were in tears, because we were in a similar time in our lives. * [[InsanityPrelude Here's another one that broke up during the final scene.]] Just. As someone who's honestly deathly afraid of growing up (even though I'm nearly 21 and I've been in college for two and a half years...) * [[EldritchFox 17 years old here.]] Started tearing up in the [[spoiler:[[HighOctaneNightmareFuel Incinerator scene]]]], ended up having a near breakdown at the ending... * 23m, on a double date with a 21f, my best friend 24m and his girlfriend 20f. Cried the rest of the movie, and for the next FIVE HOURS it was virtually impossible to hold any kind of conversation

whatsoever. *** Teenager. Saw it with my aunt. I have issues with emotion, and rarely cry during movies. Tears fell down at the incinerator scene. * 16-year old, nearly cried at the incinerator scene. Oddly enough, the [[spoiler:Army Men returning at the credits]] got me, because that bit hadn't been [[SpoilerHound ruined for me yet.]] * This teenage tropette saw it at a sleep-over, but was unable to cry loudly as her friend fell asleep. Even though it made her laugh, it was really sad and the incinerator scene was horrible to watch. But still she loved it and the next day she spent a lot of time quoting it, and at random moments yelled stuff like 'Y mi nave!?!?'. * 3 happened to start on the day that school let out for this 18-yearold (then 17) troper, which made it easy to get out early and catch the soonest showing... but I was the only one in my age group. Everyone else was an elementary-school kid or a parent. I was, quite literally, the only one to laugh at the playtime sequence (including "Death by monkey", which would have been hilarious [[ItMakesSenseInContext outside of context, too]]) crack up through near-sobbing at [[spoiler: "The Claw"]] and was the only person who stayed through the credits, trying to collect herself after the ending. ([[spoiler: I love Bonnie, but was it ''really'' necessary to make Woody wave like that? *sniffle*]]) It's disheartening to think that there's a generation who didn't enjoy the movie to its full extent. * 25 year old woman here. I went in knowing all the spoilers for the film. Didn't stop me from bawling my eyes out and being convinced that [[spoiler: they were really going to drop them into the incinerator]] * I was 16. Teared up with my aunt at the incinerator scene. [[spoiler: Nearly jumped up cheering at "THE CLAAAAAAAAAAW." Wish I had.]] * 17 and female. 1 and 2 were always movies I'd loved. 3 made me absolutely bawl even though I'd had the [[spoiler:incinerator scene]] spoiled for me. I barely even saw the last scene as more than blurs on the screen I was crying so hard. Damn you, Pixar employees, for being so amazing. * I was 18 when Toy Story 3 came out. The weekend it came out was the weekend [[HeartwarmingInHindsight the weekend I graduated high school]]. I saw it opening night and was doing fine all the way till the incinerator scene, after that all bets were off, it was all tears from there on. I rarely cry during movies to add insult to injury, the only other movie in a theater that really got me was ''Up''. Thankfully, it doesn't look like ''Cars 2'' is going to be a tear fest. * this troper was 17, just about to start thinking about senior year and all that comes afterward. when I got home, I ran to find my stuffed animals- all I've got left, having given away my other toysand just sat and cried and cried and cried.. not that I wasn't sobbing through the whole thing. * [[Tropers/TobiasDrake 24 years old]] when I saw it, heard all the stories about how everyone cries at ToyStory3, and thus spent most of the movie with a bit of a HypeBacklash approach, looking at various parts with "This is probably the scene they're talking about." And I

was ''still'' completely blindsided by it when it actually happened. * [[Tropers/{{Fiwen9430}} 21 years old]], saw it with no idea what the reputation was a couple of weeks after seeing both 1&2 for the very first time (I never really saw films as a kid), and was a complete mess by the end. Every time I've watched it since then it still gets me, and my bear that comes to uni gets a big cuddle. * This troper is usually MadeOfIorn. however, when [[spoiler: the incinerator scene]] popped up, I was TRAMITIZED! [[BeyondTheImpossible '''''A 13 YEAR OLD MAN TRAMITIZED BY A G-RATED MOVIE!''''']] So once I saw the movie, I saught out to NEVER WATCH IT AGAIN! (Therapy, here I come.) It dosn't help that my sister who's 14 LOVES THE MOVIE! However, thanks to my love on the CPU, when the scene pops up, I put on loud music to 1/4. GODDAMN PIXAR! * I'm 24, and I did felt a bit tingly in the eyes, but didn't completely break down. I don't know why, but I can't seem to cry easily, though that didn't stop me from spending the remainder of the evening fondly thinking about all my toys. * 16, and i was bawling like a child during the entire ending. As were all of the bunkmates from my camp, when we went to see it. * 20, and my '''boyfriend''' who was 19. I cry at everything, but he's rather stoic. Shh, don't tell him I told. * When I went to see it, I had just turned 19, and was halfway through college. I was feeling a bit sad at the beginning when we see that most of the toys are gone. I started to cry when I thought [[spoiler:the toys would really die in the incinerator]]. But I lost it at the very end when [[spoiler:Woody makes Andy give all the toys to Bonnie, and Andy has to say goodbye to his closest companion]]. It was even worse for me a couple of days later when I remembered the ''DoctorWho'' episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E13TheBigBang The Big Bang]]," where near the end the Doctor tells Amy "You won't need your imaginary friend anymore," [[spoiler:just before launching himself into the Sun]]. Now I can't think of either sad farewell without thinking of the other. * 18 year old male troper, and I started sniffling during that first scene...you know, the one where they cut out "You've Got a Friend in Me" right after the song says "Our friendship will never die"? Yeah. God I'm sniffling just thinking about that scene. * I was 19 when I saw this movie TWICE. And let me tell ya, [[spoiler: Andy playing with his toys with Bonnie always gets me. Just hearing the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSKJynYJO2Y&feature=related music during that scene]] touches my heart, reminding me vividly of that ending.]] The first time I saw it a couple of days after it first premiered (which I believe was June 19th... the same day as me and my dad's birthday. Thanks for the birthday gift Pixar!) The second time I was a bit pissed off though. It was being shown at my college campus and the other students were [[DudeNotFunny LAUGHING at two of the most emotional scenes in the whole movie!]] [[spoiler: The incinerator and the previously mentioned toy playing scene near the end]]. It helps a bit to know that they're probably so immature that they can only laugh as its their only reaction... still kind of a shame they seem to be completely heartless. * [[Tropers/{{Claystripe6514}} This]] 14 year old male troper saw the

movie twice in theaters, once with my 55 year old dad and once with my 54 year old mom. Tears poured the first time, but I promised myself that I'd hold it together the second time so my mom wouldn't be spoiled to the ending. I failed. It didn't exactly help that my mom whispered into my ear earlier in the movie that I looked exactly like Andy. *cries ManlyTears...* * This troper went to see this movie right after dropping her older sister off at an informational day at her college, a few weeks before we would return to drop her off officially for her freshman year. I had a strange feeling in my stomach every time they talked about Andy going away, and this troper's mother kept crying during those moments, especially during the "I wish I could keep you" moment near the end. When it came to the [[spoiler:incinerator]], I sat there, paralyzed, tearing up, my stomach tightening...and then came [[spoiler:THE CLAAAAWWW!!!!]] I think I shouted at that moment, something between a cry and a cheer, and I clapped my hands together once. And then in the final scene, I sat there with yet another feeling in my stomach, which climaxed when [[spoiler:Andy drove away and Woody said "So long, partner"]]. Maybe a tear fell, but it was more an emotional roller coaster for me than a bawling session. This from the girl who cried during ''March of the Penguins''. * This troper is 19 now, and was 18 when the movie came out. Me, my twin sister, and our mother were all sobbing wrecks for half an hour after the ending. * I can proudly proclaim I did not cry one tear over this movie. My girlfriend, my best friend and almost everyone else I know did, but it seems my heart is cold enough to not cry over this movie. There is only one scene in all of media (TV, Literature, Movies, etc) that has ever made me come even close to crying. ** GOD DAMNIT, just the page's image and it's caption made this Troper burst into tears as soon as the page had loaded!- abalam * [[Tropers/{{Abracadavre}} This 15 year old troper]], a veteran of the first two movies, sobbed like a baby during the [[spoiler: incinerator scene]]. It wasn't [[spoiler: the claw or the throwback to the first movie]] that got me during that part. It was the fact that [[spoiler: there was no dialogue. No CMOH lines, no last farewells. Just a group of old friends facing the end together, as a ''family''.]] Said troper is tearing up as he's typing this. * Count [[Tropers/KentuckyTroper1990 this troper,]] 20 years old at first viewing of 3 (Only 2 months and 9 days away from 21 at the time) amongst the teary eyed. I held it together pretty well, but was reduced to a misty eyed mess during [[spoiler: Andy playing with his toys one last time with Bonnie.]] * 22 year old male here, fucking hyperventilated during the [[spoiler:INCINERATOR SCENE]]! But it all got better, and I'm happy to have seen the finale of the trilogy. Wanna know the best part? I saw this [[spoiler:on opening night with my mom...IN 3D!!!]] - Bob J. * 16 year old here. I knew that [[spoiler:they wouldn't ACTUALLY kill the cast in the incinerator.]] Didn't stop me from sobbing my eyes out until the credits. * 18 years old, just graduated when I saw Toy Story 3. Crap I was gonna be in Andy's place in a few months. *mopes* *tears* *etc.*

* I'm 17, and when I saw Toy Story 3, I can safely say that my childhood was now complete. ---Go back to ''ToyStory'' here. * snif* My childhood!

TrademarkFavoriteFood * [[Tropers/SabrinaDiamond I love]] waffles, milkshakes and SPAM-ham or bacon :3 * Melted cheese. On sandwiches, on pizza, on hot dogs, on subs, with nachos, as a grilled cheese with bacon in the middle with the cheese and plenty more! * For this troper, orand tic-tacs, garlic, and cinnamon toast. Not together... Yet * As [[Tropers.ReikoKazama I]] mentioned in the [[TroperTales.GeniusSweetTooth Troper Tales page for Genius Sweet Tooth]], [[ThisIsSPARTA I. LOVE.]] [[EverythingsBetterWithChocolate CHOCOLATE.]] Anything chocolate-related will get me drooling in no time. Hell, when I get chocolate-coated licorice a.k.a. licorice bullets in one of those packs of chocolate-coated stuff, I just scrape the chocolate off with my teeth and leave the licorice for someone else. ([[StockYuck I hate licorice.]] [[NauseaFuel Blech.]]) Milk, dark, white, ''ANY'' kind of chocolate, I '''WILL''' eat it without hesitation. NOM. :9 * Chicken nachos with LOTS of that delicious cheese sauce the taco place has. A take-out box of that stuff is pure love ^_^ * For me, caramel-filled chocolate. Sadly it's not widely available where I live. * This troper could live off of noodles, sushi, potato chips, root beer, and orange soda without complaint. * [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi My]] favourite things to eat are pepperoni pizza and chicken breast. Being a BigEater, I like to eat various things. * [[RedneckRocker I've]] been a Pepsi addict practically my whole life. When it comes to food, however, in the past I was a bit of a bacon lover (to the point that I mock-angrily told my folks that "I resent the implication that I'm a one-dimensional meat-obsessed individual"), but this has faded over the years. Nowadays, I enjoy salt & vinegar chips, beef jerky, boneless buffalo wings (with any sauce), blue-cheese dressing with nearly anything (burgers, steaks, salads, whatever), and "Meat Lover"-style pizzas. Though they're rare, Clementine oranges are also a yearly snack food of choice for me. And though I wouldn't say that shami kebabs are a Trademark Favorite Food of mine, I do enjoy 'em from time to time (I first heard about them from ''RedDwarf'', looked up the recipe, and found a restaurant that serves them. I've enjoyed shami kebabs ever since). * [[{{GameGuruGG}} This troper]] LOVES tortilla chips and nacho cheese to an extent that I would order it as a meal if I am at a Mexican restaurant. In actually, I don't particularly like Mexican all that

much, just tortilla chips and nacho cheese. * For [[{{Peanut}} this troper]], it's any of the following: ** Fresh mozzerella cheese ** Bacon (regular or Canadian) ** Entenmann's chocolate chip cookies ** Pizza ** Spare ribs (preferably not drowning in BBQ sauce) ** Beef jerky ** Steak ** [=McDonald's=] chicken nuggets and fries ** Chicken wings ** Roast beef au jus ** Mozzerella sticks ** My mother's meatballs (HEAVEN!!!!!!!!) ** Mike and Ikes ** Popcorn * [[{{KeijiKG}} This troper's]] favorite foods and or eating habits: ** Boneless Buffalo Wings (or Chicken Strips/Tenders with Buffalo Sauce Coating) + A Hamburger Bun or Sandwich Roll + Jalapeno Cheddar Dip = The Lavabutt Sandwich ** Fiesta Chicken Sandwich: Similar to the above except with Salsa con Queso instead, whether you have Buffalo coated chicken or not. A milder variation. ** Chicken Fried Steak, using chopped up pieces of Top Round cuts of beef. Sometimes done Tempura style for the heck of it. ** Goes well with Twice Baked Potatoes, the Cheese kind. Odd considering I'm not a cheese person. ** Pizza. I love the restaurant style of it anyway. Worked at one place where I get to take a free pie home during or after work. So many of the experiments I made aren't on the menu but according to my family members, they SHOULD be. ** Entenmann's Buttermilk Glazed Doughnuts. Followed with a tall glass of milk. The whole DAMNED box (if not all in one night, then definitely save the rest for breakfast first thing in the morning) ** Banana Nut Muffins have grown to this status due to being the [[ReplacementGoldfish closet thing]] to "Nut Bread" while hanging with Mother/Earthbound fans. ** Nutella, Golden Grahams, Marshmallow Fluff and Vanilla Ice Cream. What does this make? A S'mores in a Bowl of course! You can also use crushed Graham Cracker instead of Golden Grahams and Hot Fudge instead of Nutella...I just like the taste and texture using my choice ingredients. ** Peanut Butter is a confectionery treasure AND a healthy snack all rolled up in one. Toasted PB&J? Peanut Butter Flavored Ice Cream (vanilla base), Peanut Butter and Chocolate Ice Cream, Peanut Butter M&Ms...oh hohohohoh Peanut Butter Bars! ** Brownies are fine too. ** Red Velvet Cake. It's REALLY moist and the flavor is SO perfect. If you have some at a party or gathering, beware...I might run you over for the whole darn thing. ** Bacon F*** ing Sandwich. Two slices of Texas Toast, "toasted" (fried on a skillet, using butter or bacon grease) on each side, a

modest amount of mayonnaise (optional) and...this is key now... [[http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/6/90%20bacon%20sandwich.jpg LOTS AND LOTS OF BACON]], okay maybe not THAT much but still enough so that you HAVE to press the bread down. Good cure for hangovers. Can't say the same about your heart or LDL cholesterol count. No lettuce, No tomato. FINAL DESTINATION! ** I know this seems odd, but it goes well with Root Beer with a touch of milk. There should be more Root Beer than milk, as in the ratio of milk is LESS THAN HALF the Root Beer. Think of an Ice Cream Float, only without the vanilla and extra sugar. ** Subway's Meatball Marinara subs are the ONLY reason why I go there. American or Provolone cheese. I actually had it with Pepperoni a YEAR before they started pushing the idea. Someone in marketing has good taste. ** Carl's Jr's Western Bacon Cheeseburger. This troper once made a food run and ordered THREE, along with fries and a drink. Ate every last bit of it. ** I don't see how this gets any flack, because eel? Friggin' delicious! I'll admit Japanese food in itself can be an acquired taste for most Westerners, but I wouldn't mind going through an ironic punishment (read: Death by Gluttony) on Kabayaki (Grilled Eel with Rice). ** Once ordered a Chili Cheeseburger from a burger joint. It's become a regular thing I make at home, toasted buns, chili, beef and cheese...just like how I had it there. Goes great with a VERY drafty beer like Foster's. ** Philly Cheesefakes. Chopped up seasoned steak, onion rings, toasted sandwich buns. Topped with either Salsa con Queso or Frito Lay's Jalapeno Cheddar Dip. It's better than it sounds. ** Microwave Enchiladas. Tostitos chips or Doritos. Chili with no beans. Salsa con Queso. Mash with a fork and let sit. Consume with dietary guilt. * [[{{LadyDemonique}} This troper]] LOVES tea with milk and sugar, and would happily drink it in place of water. Also, tofu, of the silken/soft variety, so much that her immediate family calls her 'tofu-face'. Has more than a few times eaten this as a substitute for RICE, which became a running joke in family dinners. Does draw some weird looks from her meat-loving expatriate friends, though, who somehow doesn't appreciate the flavour of it. Another is Spam, the canned pork, which she likes fried and eaten with bread or preferably with (yes) tofu. Of course, her brother, who's very much aware of how both Spam and tofu are [[{{ButtMonkey}} the butt]] of food jokes in Western countries, loves to tease her about it. ** Mmm...spam. * This troper is known for his love/addiction for Dr Pepper and Bacon Cheeseburgers, and it looks as though peanut butter MnM's are working their way up. In the case of Dr Pepper, this troper is associated with it to such a degree that when he passed up Dr Pepper for Diet Coke at a party, there were disbelieving stares all around. The bacon cheeseburgers from the local deli are known to his friends as "Topherburgers" (Topher being This Troper's name, obviously). * This troper constantly munches on a particular brand of chocolate-

covered granola bars (although they take a back seat when she has other things with which to sate her SweetTooth). Her sister is a cheese addict; her favourite breakfast is "cheese bread", which is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin bread with melted cheese on it]]. This troper finds it disgusting, mainly because she hates melted mozzarella cheese if it's not on pizza or somesuch. * ThisTroper doesn't just make homemade hot chocolate -- she has literally thousands of variations she can make, just to make sure that she ''never'' gets bored with it. And she makes no secret of this online, either, so she gets known for it. * Apples at home. I go through them like a chainsaw through dry wood. At school - barbeque sauce, strangely enough. * Tortellini, ravioli...stuffed pasta in general. I lurrve it, and I will never get tired. ** Alfredo Pasta. &#9829; * It's yellow bell peppers for this troper. Not red or green or orange, just yellow. For some strange reason she also has to share them with her dog, who likes them just as much. ** Same. Except all peppers. And I don't share them with my dog. ** [[IronChef ALLEZ CUISINE!!!]] * Apparently this troper drinks so much Mountain Dew that it's become somewhat iconic. She has been told that she looks slightly underdressed if she's not wearing her trademark ankle-length trenchcoat and carrying a Mountain Dew. * This troper ''always'' has a Sprite for lunch at his high school that the canteen staff are aware of it. He has, various times, subverted their expectations by ordering a Coke or Royal Tru-Orange. * Slim Jims does it for this troper. * For [[ManCalledTrue this troper]], it's pretzels. ** {{Cybele}} salutes you. Mm, pretzels. =D ** {{DeimosTheStrange}} would like to agree. Bags of small, crunchy ones are his favorite. * This troper used to live on bottled water. Until his parents thought it was giving him concentration problems. (Here's a hint, fellow tropers: never let your parents get a hold on anything that might blame your diet for your problems. It only will cause issues later on.) He's still going through withdrawal. * This troper has developed a taste for Sour Gummi Bears. * More of a trademark favorite drink than anything, but orange Crush for [[{{Hinoa}} me]]. Even though I rarely have it these days. D: * Chocolate-covered granola bars (a specific brand, even) are a staple of this troper's diet. ** I (the troper from the first entry) can't remember if this was one I added to the main page before this page existed, or if it actually is a different person who just has amazingly similar tastes. *** Probably was yours, but I didn't see a name on it. Grabbed this and the one below from the history to put them here. * [[Tropers/{{G-Mon}} This troper's]] family and chocolate. His younger brother, on the other hand, is just a plain ol' BigEater. * This Troper truly cannot get enough of any spicy food, but ''could not live'' without chillis. Its actually getting to the point when anything without chillis is bland and inedible to her.

* This troper nibbles on raisins with or in every meal. For example, there is no such thing as having soup for dinner. It is soup and raisins. There's also oatmeal for breakfast almost every day (with plenty of raisins, of course), but believe me, that is nothing compared to raisins. There also used to be a lot of garlic, which people noticed more readily than the raisins. But to put it simply...raisins. * In elementary school, I would always have a Rice Krispie in my lunch. Also subverted, as my mother thinks I love honey on everything, which I actually think I'll try. Lately though, it's been noodles. ** One single Rice Krispie? That must've been one hell of a diet! * [[{{Thebobmaster}}This troper]] probably made the college rich his freshman year with his biweekly purchases of root beer. Man loves his root beer. * ThisTroper is known for drinking massive amounts of coffee (at least one cup a day, rarely less than 2). He knows a girl who has a similar addiction to tea. And yes, [[DistaffCounterpart I do have a crush on her]]. * Green beans. This troper is known among her relatives as the girl who was able to eat nine large helpings of them in one sitting, and she only stopped because she had eaten them all. * Hot & Spicy Cheez-Its. [[SpiriTsunami This troper]] has eaten an entire box of them in one sitting, and buys them two boxes at a time...on pretty much a weekly basis. * [[{{Fifthman}} This Troper]] believes that gyros are proof that there is a God who loves us and wants us to be happy. He happily goes to the local Greek fast-food restaurant twice to three times a week to indulge his cravings. * Milky Ways. I will do ANYTHING if there's a HOPE IN HELL of getting a Milky Way. * This troper is known in her family for eating green beans. Oh no, she doesn't just eat them, she DEVOURS them. If a family member hears she's coming for a holiday dinner, they make extra. About 3 cans extra. Her average number of servings per holiday meal is 7, usually going up into the 10-11 range. There is never half a bowl left. Ever. ** She also constantly snacks on sunflower seeds. A lot. * {{Scrounge}} will have a grilled cheese sandwich with bacon. Or possibly some mozzarella sticks. ** Always the mighty GCB while at work, because the mozzarella sticks where I work suck. This has lead to one coworker getting irate with me when I said my order out loud. They all know what I'm getting already. * This Troper loves chicken nuggets. I used to be able to eat twenty of them in one sitting. I can not do that anymore, but man they are delicious. * This troper (and her mother) with chocolate to the point where my mother noted I always eat more chocolate while on vacation than when I'm not. * This troper used to consume Mountain Dew in massive quantities -- at least a six-pack every day, and often much more. When I realized how many excess calories that was, I switched to the diet version and lost an easy 12 pounds. I eventually had to quit the stuff entirely, because all that caffeine started causing cardiac problems.

* This troper has had peanut butter in her school lunches for as long as she can remember, going from a sandwich (no jelly) to crackers to a sandwich again. Incidentally, the family dog adores peanut butter and insisted on a cracker of his own every day (he's spoiled rotten). Shortly after, she started loving cucumbers. The normal kind vanish, she eats a whole one in a day (half for school, the better half for when she gets home), so her family has to buy the English kind. It's gotten to the point that an alert goes to the family when she runs low on peanut butter, though. Two jars at a time, always Skippy. Yum! * If this troper had a cup of tea for every time I heard, "You've already gone through half a box? We can't afford this!" growing up I still wouldn't have damn near enough of the stuff. * Bell peppers and fish for {{Gecko}}. Yummy! * This troper and bacon and egg sandwiches. Best. Breakfast. Ever. Am trying to cut down due to the fact that I think I'm getting [[IncrediblyLamePun porky.]] * {{Zordauch}} never turns down a chance to go to Taco Bell, having worked at one for a year and a half out of high school. He was in the drive-thru when his wife called him to say that she was in the last stage of labor and their first child would be out in fifteen minutes. ** Same here. This troper and her mom have gone there every Friday night for over three years. We've tried to stop, but it's just too damn addicting. * [[LWGadra This troper]] goes to Wendy's so often he has wacky conversations with the employees while the food is being made. * This troper will do almost anything for chocolate milk. This includes shameless begging from classmates she's only spoken to maybe five times in two years, and strangling people until they relinquish previously mentioned beverage. * While JuiceBoxHero loves chocolate cake (sort of a secondary TrademarkFavoriteFood in itself), she absolutely ''adores'' curry, and will make it for herself for dinner almost every other week. She also has an entire repertoire of Indian restaurants she likes, and gets slightly mad if people take her anywhere else on her birthday. * My family thinks it's red licorice for me. In reality? '''Doritos.''' Zarquon, those things are ''addicting.'' ** And while I'm at it, cherry phosphate. You know, grenadine added to lemon-lime sodapop? If I can get it at a restaurant, I do. Pop tastes so much better when the flavoring is added directly before consumption. That goes for homemade root beer too. Oh yeah. Have any of you ever had real homemade root beer made with dry ice? * [[{{Seanette}} One troper]] has apparently developed an addiction to Trader Joe's roasted garlic hummus, and so has her husband. They go through about three containers a week. Each. She's currently investigating learning to make hummus for grocery bill reasons. She also loves lasagna. Also, the Cake Wrecks blog regularly induces cake cravings, which are generally satisfied by cupcakes (diabetic husband, so caution is needed with keeping sweets in stock). ** Ah, hummus. So delicious. * [[CoolHandLuke "No man can eat 50 eggs!"]] Wanna bet? And then I'm drinking coffee around the clock, it's really no wonder I stay lean without much effort.

* [[Anima This troper]] loves Italian food to the point it is seriously all that's in her fridge and pantry, save for the fruit she snacks on. * [[{{Whitewings}} This troper]] loves milk, to the point of being able to distinguish 2%, 1%, and skim by dairy. In blind tests. His bones do not break easily. Potato chips are also a favourite, to point that these two foods were what he requested after getting his tonsils out. His uncle (the surgeon in question) told his mother to go ahead and let him have them. If they hurt, he wouldn't want more. He wanted more. ** The family dog was similar: She ate only Pamper brand cat food. Any flavour, but it had to be Pamper brand. ** What, you mean most people can't distinguish milk by fat percent? * A sandwich with cheese and cucumber, without the butter. Four of these can keep me going for a full day. * [[{{Draga}} This troper]] will not let a box of Pocky escape from his grasp. The same goes for waffles. Sweet, sweet waffles. * [[{{NeoCrimson}} This troper]] has had a long-standing obsession with Minute Maid brand Lemonade, to the point where the stuff has effectively replaced water as his primary source of fluids for the past ten or so years. * [[{{Nettik}} This troper]] is known for her love of seltzer. She can't remember the last time she went anywhere without one. Some of the people at her school only know her by "that seltzer person." * [[MrGuy This troper]] loves sushi, energy bars, and chicken. Not all at once, presumably. * This troper has an insatiable appetite for English Muffins. I eat, at the very least, one a day. There are several packages of them within my house, and I always stash a few in case I think someone else is going to take them from me. I also had a very strange addiction to Jujubes. Sadly, the others in my house did not know this, and brought home a big bag of Jujubes from the bulk barn. Before this, I had kept myself eating only one per day for the last few months as an exercise in self control. That night, I downed the entire bag with two visits. Half of it in the night, half of it the next morning. Needless to say, everyone was pissed. * [[{{Crion87}} This troper]] loves to eat spaghetti bolognaise, so much so it's kind of a trademark food preference of his in his family. Pizza is also good, particularly capriciossa pizza (yes, [[{{Nightmare Fuel}}he likes anchovies]]). Also, if it weren't for the rarity of Dr. Pepper in Australia, he would drink it ''far'' more frequently. Being that as it may, he rarely gets his trademark favourite foods these days, but a good cup of tea is preferred to this troper as opposed to coffee. But, he has a taste for energy drinks... * Oh, god, instant noodles. It's gotten to the point where "I fucking LOVE instant noodles!" could be my catchphrase. * ManWithoutABody: Quaker oatmeal. Especially Maple And Brown Sugar or Apple Cinnamon. And ''especially'' a hybrid mixture. * Popcorn, for [[DrammyTobaayu This Troper.]] * For this editor and his mother, garlic and onions. Quite often I eat my garlic raw. * This Troper loves Kraft Dinner. Guess which country he's from.

* A friend of [[InsanityInside this troper's]] parents is ''very'' fond of cheesecake and also has an amazing talent for finding it. You want him to come over? Don't bother inviting him. Just make a cheesecake and he'll show up. Want him to do something? Promise to make cheesecake if he does. * This here troper is known for his Dr. Pepper addiction. That and my Pizza.Oh, and Dude.Pizza+ Smoked Sausage+ Fries=AWESOME.Yeah, I'm a Big Eater. * [[AndyWaltfeld Iconic name aside]], This Troper is big on Barq's Root Beer (the only canned one in the States with caffeine still in it, if not the only caffeinated root beer in America PERIOD) and Jack Link's Jalapeno Beef Jerky (sadly apparently discontinued in his natural habitat of South Carolina). Currently picking up the slack for the latter are crispy-fried onion strips (Y'know, the ones they put on ritzier burgers). Of course, any of these addictions may be suspended at any time to partake of whatever Limited Edition Snack Food/Drink comes down the pipe (much good times were had in the heyday of Mountain Dew Game Fuel). * This troper's love for her chili chocolates is (in)famous. They are spicy chocolates; chocolate bars with chilies in them. She cannot live without them. No exam can be studied for without them. No homework can be done without them. They are heaven. They ''are.'' * This Troper can haz Udon noodles? (Everyone in this Troper's family LOVES sashimi) * [[UnfortunateImplications Stereotyped as they may be]], [[{{Freezer}} this troper]] loves him some fried chicken and malt liquor (Often at the same time). * [[{{Nomic}} This troper]] really likes oatmeal cookies and will sometimes eat a box of them instead of eating dinner. One of his fellow students LOVES cheese and has been known to eat several pounds of cheese with nothing else. * This troper always has chocolate. It's gotten to the point where the people who she eats with are shocked if she doesn't pull out a gigantic chocolate bar during lunch. * Bacon Cheeseburgers and Coca-Cola for This Troper. In fact, he's even got a trademark food he refuses to eat: Pepperoni Pizza. It's become such a plot point amongst his friends that if they ever see me eating Pepperonis, they know to question/quarantine/attack him, because he's clearly been replaced. * Lemon drops for [[MutantRancor me]]. * Peppermints, to the extent that Peppermint is my online identity. * Saltine cracker with milk, and pretzels with sharp cheddar cheese spread. Mmmmm... Cheesy AND salty.... * [[{{Rat}} This troper]] is known far and wide for her love of macaroni and cheese. Even some of my internet friends, who I can't recall ever telling I ate the stuff more than once, have asked if that's all I eat. * Rather than a TrademarkFavoriteFood, ThisTroper has a trademark favorite beverage. One could theorize that he has grown gills and breathes Dr Pepper instead of water. * Rice with cream cheese. * Shockers. Sweet-tarts only more sour and chewy, along with

Strawberry Fanta for a drink are This Troper's * [[{{Gerusz}} This troper]] always ordered coffee and Snickers in his school's buffet. Ya' know, for the caffeine and the sugar. Sometimes more than once a day. In extreme cases (mostly because of cold front induced insomnia, combined with his DSPS) he made the coffee a [[MustHaveCaffeine double or triple espresso]]. * -->'''[[{{this-guy}} Daniel]]:''' Needs more onions. -->'''LaughTrack:''' ''[[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment {laughter}]]'' ** Red onions, usually. * This troper likes peppermint tea. I drink about 3+ cups of it daily. * [[TsundeRay This troper]]'s favorite food is curry rice, and [[GannonBanned don't insist to him that it's the same thing as Indian curry]]. * For [[LockonLockon This Troper]], Teriyaki Chicken. More examples from friends and family below. ** This Troper's CoolBigSis Friend looooooooooves twizzlers. ** Weird Example: My friend's cat will ''only'' drink Arrowhead brand water. NOTHING ELSE. It's like she can taste the difference. * Orange sherbet for this troper, to the point where he's aactually been successfully bribed with promises of a gallon tub of orange sherbet. * Salmon. Grilled salmon fillets are beautiful. Mix them with mashed potatoes and Jasmine-brand rice with no butter(that's important. How Americans can eat buttery rice is beyond this troper), and this troper will actually hide it so no one else can eat it. Fortunately, she's the only one she knows who mixes it like that. * Root Beer is this troper's favourite type of pop, to the point where his friends were surprised when he '''didn't''' bring a case with him to a get-together. He also is known for his love of ketchup; his parents joke about how they should have bought shares in Heinz. * Dr. pepper, and hot chocolate powder. Not mixed though! * This Troper eats more pasta at any given opportunity than nearly any other kind of food. He also enjoys stroganoff, borshe, and fruitpopsicles. * [[{{Cydrius}} This Troper]] is infamous in his circle for drinking untold amounts of apple juice. Also, pepperoni and cheese pizza. Especially from Pizza Hut. * What's the best thing about autumn? The leaves changing color? The cool weather? WRONG! As this troper will tell you, it's the ''pumpkin flavored seasonal food!'' Pumpkin bread, pumpkin muffins, pumpkin cookies, pumpkin cream cheese, pumpkin ice cream, and the holy ''pumpkin pie...'' OM to the power of NOM. What has the humble Man done to deserve such a divine gourd? ** The rest of the year, when pumpkinfoods go into hibernation, Winto-Green Life Savers will suffice to keep me in a Good Mood. ** You ever have roasted pumpkin seeds? Yummy. * [[ShadicTheHedgehog This troper]] enjoys chicken-flavoured ramen (and his own particular recipe called the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin "Super Cheesy Ramen Dish]]) and it was so well known by the family friends that he got a large box of Maruchan(c) Ramen for Christmas. He

also enjoys Dr. Pepper enough that the family knows to stock it for parties, 'cause he'll always ask for it when he arrives. * For this troper, it's curry. Thai, Indian, meat, vegetarian -- it doesn't really matter, as she'll eat it anyway. * The staff at this troper's canteen don't need to ask what she's getting for lunch; every time she goes at lunchtime she buys a toasted ham and cheese foccacia. Usually with a bottle of orange/mango/pineapple juice, sometimes with a chocolate Big M. * This troper goes nuts over any of the following foods. Strangely, they usually fall into either the categories of vitamin a rich orange produce or sulfuric produce from the onion family: ** Lemonade ** Sweet potatoes ** Mangoes ** Garlic ** Raw onions ** Ranch dressing (It's delicious over almost anything!) * ThisTroper and funnel cake. See, you can usually only get them at a carnival, so it's gotten to the point where people tell mea MONTH or so in advance before the carnival comes to town. And I spurrge, dooo I ever. As a perma!food,it would be Nutella. To the point where it's almost a CargoShip. With food. * For [[Tropers/DivineRose125 This troper]], her trademark favorite foods are: ** Almost any kind of soup (I especially looooooove chicken soup of almost any kind) ** My own cheeseburger mac ** Chicken (I love them; weather it's fried, baked, boiled, etc.) ** Potatoes (Same as above) ** Sausage pizza and New York-style pizza ** Rice ** Cheeseburgers ** Chili dogs with cheese ** Jalapeno-flavored snacks ** My parents' home cooking ** Cheese; especially American, cheddar and pepper jack ** Tacos, chimichangas, taquitos, quesadillas, and most Mexican food ** Onion rings (Especially with ranch dressing....Deeeelish!) ** Swedish meatballs ** Meatloaf ** Chex Mix ** Beef Ravioli ** Many kinds of tea ** Crackers (Saltines, Ritz crackers, Triscuits, etc.) ** And many others that I can't list now.... * [[MalachiteDragon This Troper]] can exist purely off of rootbeer. Any kind; Barqs, Mug, RC, whatever; If it's rootbeer, he will drink it, and he will get hyper off of it. It actually shocks people when he ''doesn't'' order it at resaurants. * For [[{{Bookhobbit}} This Troper]], it used to be instant ramen, but has since changed to Lipton Iced Tea. Being without it causes me withdrawls that can only otherwise brought about by being away from

the library. Also, she has a food which she's trademarked for not because it's the only thing she eats but because she's the only one who can make it properly- a Heart Attack Sandwich. It's chuck cheese, shredded cheese, and turkey ham on bread. It seems easy, but the troper got her sister hooked on the way she makes it. And both her and her sister are the only person they know to make Fried Salami Sandwiches. Also her best friend ALWAYS has gum and mints, and another friend is never without Mountain Dew, as at least one person above also said. * This troper has several, but the strangest one came from a condimentless night at a friend's house: hot dogs covered in buffalo wing sauce. It's actually much better than it sounds. * For a troper above, gyros are proof of God's existence. Personally, it's Barbaque sauce... but not the generic bersweet stuff you get at a grocery store or a fast food place. The ''good'' kind. Anything that ketchup makes better, barbaque sauce makes ''perfect''. (within reason). Ketchup just tastes ''wrong'' now to me. ** I must be reading these pages and doing edits in my sleep. :D * {{Miso}} has several of these, but has been known to wolf down entire ten-piece boxes of Pizza Hut's chicken wings in one sittingoften accompanied with extra pepperoni, or pepperoni-and-sausage pizza. As for weirder foods, she likes to eat bologna and peanut butter sandwiches and as a kidthing, she liked dunking her Chicken [=McNuggets=] from [=McDonald's=] in honey. Also, her favorite candy is butterscotch. Oh, god, butterscotch. <3 ** [=McNuggets=] in honey is good. Whoa, wave of nostalgia. * There are several different restaurants in ThisTroper's hometown that don't even bother handing me a menu any longer -- they ''know'' what my order is going to be. * If someone were to observe [[DarcDiscordia me,]] they would most likely be positively terrified by the number of Starlight Mints I go through. I can eat a 1-pound bag of them in a day- that's over a hundred mints. I've also been successfully bribed with orange juice, Earl Grey tea (tons of sugar, naturally), my sister's tiramisu brownies, and garlic-onion bagels. * [[{{Hayati}} This Troper]] Loves jello... but its the only thing he can eat. * Americanized Thai food. I always crave Pad Thai when I'm at school. * [[{{Skazka}} This troper]] and Slim Jims. All sorts of chocolate, too. * Anything caffeinated for this troper. Chocolate, Coke, energy drinks... nowadays she's more easily recognised as "that caffeineaddicted chick" rather than "that [[{{Bifauxnen}} chick who looks like a dude]]". If I don't have at least two litres of caffeinated drink a week, there's something wrong. And she only drinks it for the taste and not the buzz. She has also been heard to claim "I FREAKING LOVE CINNAMON DONUTS/ROAST/GRAPES" loudly in public places. * [[{{Joshua-san0}} This troper]] can be bribed with the following: ** Strawberries ** Tomatoes (to the most that most of the rest of the family will fork over most of their tomatoes to me) ** KitKats

** Ice Cream (Especially Cookie Dough and Strawberry flavored) ** Chili (especially Skyline) ** Antie Anne's Pretzels (the best pretzel you will ever have in your life!) ** Hot Chocolate * This troper's are goat cheese, Izze sodas, lasagna, and Dasani. (And now she sounds like a yuppie.) * This Troper's favorite food are pepperoni calzones, breakfast sandwiches, Orange Crush Soda and cheese curds. Get in the way of one, and he will ''tear you apart.'' * I've really developed a taste for hot wings--I'm pretty sure I'm keeping that Buffalo Wild Wings downtown well in business by going there at ''least'' three times a week. Om nom nom. Slathered in ranch dressing and I'm in heaven. * To be honest, sphagetti (and the equally delicious sphagetti bolognese) is my all-time favourite food, with pizza 2nd. ** [[{{to285}} This troper]] agrees wholeheartedly with the above. He has pasta at least once a week. * Inverted somewhat, this troper is known for an absolute hatred of mushrooms. I will not eat it on anything, with anything, I hate the smell, the look, the taste, the texture, even if I can't tell I'm eating mushrooms the knowledge that they are in my meal ruins the meal entirely. As for food I actually like, lemon is my favorite fruit, the greatest fruit of all, except maybe bananas. I'm also known for a love of cheese. I've eaten so much cheddar that I can actually tell different brands of cheddar by taste. At the moment, my favorite drink is coca cola, but that pretty much goes without saying. EVERYONE loves coca-cola. ** Oh wait, I forgot salted peanuts (or cashews). Get a bowl out and I will eat a meal's worth of nuts by myself. * This troper loves onion rings. Not Funyuns or however the hell they're spelled (no real onions, blech), but real, deep-fried onions, sliced into rings and covered in crispy deliciousness. Just thinking about them makes my mouth water. * {{Filby}}'s favorite food is macaroni and cheese, as everyone in his family can attest. His favorite drink is iced mocha. * For [[FourtyTwoHz this troper]], this works: apples, oranges, strawberries, grapes, bananas, dark chocolate... Add to the list anything hot and spicy (he doesn't have much sense of smell or taste, so otherwise he feels as if he was munching on a piece of paper). He has also learned to love tonic water. * Starch. Potatoes, pasta, rice, corn... it's all good. I'm hoping that someday I'll meet a fundamentalist Atkin's dieter, just to see their reaction. * [[{{MiraShio}} This troper]] is halfway between this and a BigEater. I love KFC chicken, potatoes, Toblerone and iced tea. [[strike:You can bribe me with them.]] * General Tso's Chicken and Diet Pepsi are my trademark favorite food / drink respectively and have always been a great way to politely do things I don't care to do. * [[RainNormally This troper]]'s love for sushi (particularly spicy crab roll and smoked salmon roll), love for chocolate, and [[BigEater

insatiable appetite in general]] have acquired something of a memetic status where this troper works. * When [[PingoTBest this troper]] is at home, she is almost never seen without a glass of cranberry juice. Also, the fact she ate rice for breakfast on school days and brought chicken for lunch was a bit of a meme amongst her cousins when she was younger. * This troper loves a bagel with cream cheese for breakfast, especially onion or garlic. Just recently, he learned that they're good as a sandwich with jalapeno slices too. * This troper is so fond of Granny Smith apples that her dad once called them her "life force". Her parents always buy some for when she's coming to visit. Same with salt liquorice. (Yes, I'm Scandinavian. What gave it away?) * Let's just say that if this troper ever turns down a green pepper or a glass of iced tea, it's an imposter. * This troper's favorite food when he was a kid was his family's pasta, which has been passed down over several generations. Now that he's grown up, he knows how to make it himself. He also has a thing for milk, certain kinds of root beer, and Rovas mint chocolate bars. * In the MustHaveCaffeine variety, this troper's love for immenselystrong black coffee is well-known amongst his peers, so the point where people will order it for him at restaurants if he's running late. * Ketchup and milk. Muffinz's love of ketchup has become somewhat of a meme among the family (I sometimes even eat it ''by itself''), and we go through about a gallon of milk every few days, mostly caused by me. * This troper practically lives on cheese sandwiches, tomato soup, chicken ramen, sour cream and onion Pringles, and lemon-lime Gatorade. And heaven help you if you get between her and a bottle of milk. Her sister, meanwhile, is so addicted to Cry-Babies that when the drugstore in her town stopped carrying them, she started buying this troper's drugstore's ''entire stock'' every time she comes to visit. * Jelly Babies anyone? This troper has at least have one pack a week and when going on a survival trek packed 3 packs, for 'medicinal reasons'. * [[SweetTooth Shortbread, candy cigarettes (CANDY cigarettes, thank you), lemon ice lollies, apple juice]], [[AxisPowersHetalia PASTAAAAAAAA]], potatoes in any shape or form, ketchup, and [[StockYuck sprouts]]. My other iconic foods used to be banana (which is making a comeback), milk and chocolate (both of which I stopped eating after one very depressing period of sickness which involved eating only at suppertimes because that was the only time I could stand it. Don't worry, though: she's now a BigEater who somehow seems to be ''losing weight'' for it. * This Troper (Enkufka) is quite possibly addicted to Vanilla Coke. I have literally walked through the snow and rain uphill both ways to get a pair of Bottles of Coke. * [[{{Griffin}} This troper]] loves potatoes. French fires, baked potatoes, mashed potatoes, hash browns...don't add too much, and I'll eat it. How much do I love them? At the baked potato stand, I get a discount. * For this troper, it's Blue Bubble Gum flavored Jones Soda. My one

friend love coffee and another likes beef sticks. * Beyond his love for junk food, this troper ''loves'' raisins. * Tabasco sauce. I put it on everything from mac and cheese to burgers to salads to soups to steaks to hot dogs, sometimes i take it strait up from the bottle. I wear tabasco boxers, have a tabasco piggy bank, and usually carry around a mini bottle just in case. * [[{{ShadowOfTheSun}} For me]] [[{{TheAlcoholic}} it's single malt Scotch. And ale.]] * [[TheToonGeekette This troper]] has a lot of favorite foods, but three things that particularly come to mind would be '''1.)''' Noodles '''2.)''' Any lemon-lime flavored pop (Sierra Mist, Sprite, 7up, etc.) and '''3.)''' Jelly Belly jelly beans, particularly the margaritaflavored kind (that last one has become the subject of an inside joke in my family). * Code Red Mountain Dew. I have been bribed to go to parties I didn't want to go to, because there would be Code Red Mountain Dew. Even better if mixed with Vanilla vodka. Tastes like a cherry snowcone. mmmm.. Food-wise? Lasagna. I would do a lot, and I mean ''a lot'' for a good lasagna. * [[LimeTH This Troper]] is addicted to freeze pops (the kind that are in the plastic pouches that you suck on) as a snack, and has single handedly eaten whole boxes of them. His breakfast of choice is Burger King's Double Sausage, Egg and Cheese Crossanwiches, which he eats every week, and he gets crispy chicken strip baskets with honey mustard dip (and mayonaise dip sometimes too) everytime he goes to a diner. * [[DaibhidC This troper]]'s Trademark Favourite Foods are [[SweetTooth Irn Bru and banoffee pie]]. * [[{{Quillpaw}} This troper]] has gotten a reputation in the school cafeteria for loving (really ''loving'') tater tots. She will also do just about anything if promised sushi or chicken and dumplings (homemade or the kind from Cracker Barrel, not the microwave stuff). Also, she won't chew any gum but Sugarfree Fruit Stripe. ** She's mostly laid off the Fruit Stripe now, but has replaced it with something else. She's gained a reputation for carrying and going through ridiculous amounts of key lime flavored hard candy, specially ordered from a shop in Key West. * My family thinks the buffalo wing pizza with blue cheese dressing for sauce is just this. However, with the odd advantages it gives me, I'm starting to think of it as a PowerUpFood. Maybe that's just a MagicFeather though, and it's only this. Other {{TrademarkFavoriteFood}}s, which don't give the impression of a PowerUpFood, include Mountain Dew and Gertrude Hawk crispy bars. * This troper goes through four or five lollipops a day when she's stressed. She also has a thing for sushi and quality black licorice (she hates the cheap plasticcy stuff). * {{HSZMV}} and his Slurpees. Dear Lord, his Slurpee's. It's gotten to a point where he will only take the (original) Mountain Dew flavor, from only one store in his home state. Unfortunatly, he's living a good 14 hours away from that store, and the nearest 7-11 had craptastic Slurpee machines that were always broken and oozed semi melted slush. He did not morn when they replaced the Mountain Dew for

the flavor of the month there, because they never fixed it to make it good. But God help the owner of my home state's 7-11 that I visit daily when back from Uni if they ever take out that flavor, though he's fairly certain he pushed that one into the keepable flavors by the sheer amount he would by from them. * This troper's absolute favorite food since childhood has been, and always will be, beef stroganoff. His best friend, meanwhile, has only ever been observed eating Grape Nuts cereal, pizza, and pasta smothered with olive oil and Parmesan cheese. * For me, it's lime popsicles. It's a running joke in my family that they're near impossible to find. * For this troper, it's Mac & Cheese or GIANT hamburgers. Which one is better remembered tends to depend on how long the person doing the remembering has known this troper. * This troper LUUUUUURVES garlic bread and patty melts. * [[FinalGamer This troper]] is regularly joked to by friends on always having ham rolls and Coca-Cola whenever making his own food. One of his closest friends has this too with doritos, pizza and Red Bull. * [[TehNubkilr This troper]] is a huge fan of shellfish (mostly lobster and prawns). My extended family is familiar with this, so there will very nearly always be at least one shrimp-based dish on the table when I go out for dinner. I'm not picky, though; I have no single favourite food. When asked about this by a friend, his immediate response was: "okay, then. So what's your favourite commoner food?" * Good thing this troper watches stupid moe anime, elsewise his trademark can of Jones Soda and box of Red Vines would score him some diabetes. ** Though the Red Vines are fat free, and the soda is delicious pure cane sugar, it's not ''that'' bad for me. * This troper always has a mint in his mouth (eclipse spearmint to be precise). I've been eating them for years, to the point that whenever I run into someone I haven't seen in a few years they almost always jokingly ask if I still eat the same mints. Only to be shocked when I pull out a box. * This Troper's school is filled with people who have these: ** This Troper herself has apple juice, one carton a day. ** My cousin has TicTacs. ** Jenny seems to have aquirred bagels. ** She doesn't go to my school, but OneeSama (that's what I call her) has chocolate and jam. * This troper goes through ridiculous amounts of chocolate milk. Cake in general and chocolate cake in particular are also up there. Also, she has a Trademark Least Favourite Food - if she ever orders a burger and doesn't specify "no mayo", she's been kidnapped and replaced by replicants. If a burger does come with mayo, she'll scrape it off, and it still won't taste the same. * This troper is [[BigEater certainly not picky about food]], but she ''loves'' all kinds of shrimp, particularly spicy mayo shrimp. She's also fond of ramen, so her mom often jokes that college will be a breeze.

* This troper absolutely LOVES [[ForeignQueasine salmiakki (salt licorice)]]. Particularly in ice cream. Despite all the odd looks I get when I mention it out of Finland, it is absolutely amazing. ** This troper relates. I'm an expat's daughter who has lived in numerous countries, and I've always insisted that we have salmiakki shipped to our home, wherever that may be. And I spend my summers in Charleston, SC- the weird looks I get when I ask local shopkeepers if they've heard of it are worth it. One year, ''someone even had some.'' * This Southern troper won't hesitate to proudly declare her love for fried chicken and mashed potatoes. She also always orders the World Class Chocolate ice cream from Baskin Robbins whenever she goes. Her mother, on the other hand, seems to love eggplant. * [[Tropers/{{Nemica}} This troper]] has her diet coke. Her relatives got GenreSavvy about this. * [[{{Kathadrion}} This Troper]] has several: ** Hot chocolate, except that I drink it cold (which is not that uncommon here in Sweden, but taken to ridiculous extremes by me). ** Coke. Somewhere between one and two litres a day. ** Pringles chips, but only the sourcream and onion ones. ** Chocolate. ** Chicken. ** Salmon. ** Curry. My classmates are very amused by the fact that the contents of my lunch box nearly always are yellow. * This Troper's trademark favorite foods? ** Pizza. Do I really need a reason? Especially from Mellow Mushroom, also known as Pizza Heaven. ** Hot tea. Tasty and a de-stressor. ** Cap'n Crunch. The regular kind, not the one with berries. She could eat a whole box DRY. By herself. (And she discovered that it makes an utterly decadent coating for fried chicken, too.) ** McChicken sandwich. It's cheap, it's not too big, less fat than a Big Mac, and OH SO VERY TASTY. Order them on a steamed bun with extra mayo and lettuce. And a tomato, if you've got spare change. ** Pocky. Granted, here in {{Eagleland}}, they only sell two flavors: chocolate and strawberry. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming My family bought me countless boxes of each flavor for Christmas and stuffed my stocking with them.]] * I like Ginger Beer. * Speaking for most Asians not raised on Western food, RICE! * Popsicles. Although [[Tropers/CheshireRai this troper]] is already a {{Big Eater}}, she could eat an entire box of them in a day. Also: pocky and white rice. * For [[Tropers/ZootyCutie this troper]], it's any kind of ice cream. I have yet to try an ice cream flavor I don't like! But, if you want to pick favorites, it's Neopolitan. * [[Tropers/ZiggyStardustForever This troper]] loves: ** Any combination of beef and potatoes. Steak and baked potato, beef stew and colcannon (mashed potatoes and cabbage), burger and fries, etc. ** Anything with noodles. Spaghetti, fettucine, macaroni, linguine, tortellini, you name it. Noodles, noodles, noodles!

** Chocolate. Bars, cookies, cake, fudge, the list goes on... * This troper has a thing for Cornish Pasties (preferably the handmade variety, since shop-bought ones are usually miserable excuses for pasties) and sparkling mineral water. The latter is surprisingly hard to find. * Mmmm, oranges, and basically any fruit that's juicy enough. * [[Tropers/{{Nerdarena}} This Troper]] has a few (when does this turn into BigEater?): ** Sour Gummi Worms. Not bears, dangit. Worms. ** Chocolate. ** Noodles, pasta and rice. ** Mashed potatoes. Basically any variety of squishy carbohydrates. ** Lemon iced tea. Not iced tea with lemon in it, the kind with sweet, artificial lemoniness already added. ** Mayonnaise. I'll eat it plain on toast,[[NauseaFuel much to the disgust of others]]. * This troper has a Dungeons and Dragons character that's half nixie and half black dragon, so it goes without saying she goes for fish like Sonny goes for Cocoa Puffs. also this troper herself and tacos ** Also that tropers' sister and garlic. On anything. * This troper's infatuation with Dr. Pepper is such that when I go out to this restaraunt where a casual friend of mine works, he just looks at me and asks, "Dr Pepper?" without me having to say a word. The same goes for diet peach Snapple. It's given to me for my birthday by at least one person a year. * Milk. [[Tropers/{{SilverAgito}} ThisTroper can't go a day]] without a glass. Often attached is a peanut butter(no jelly) sandwhich or five. * Frozen lemonade, 'specially ''strawberry'' frozen lemonade. * Lemonade and lime juice is [[Tropers/{{Spessmehren32}} my]] personal favourite drink, but I only get them when visiting the pub for folk nights, otherwise it is tea. At school, I rarely don't have a cappuccino at least once during the day (what can I say, they taste better than normal coffee). My favourite food is kendal mint cake, to the extent that, when my sister got me a piece about the size of an A4 pad of paper, I had to force myself not to start eating it immediately. I lasted about two days, whereupon half of it got used for lunch (I'd forgotten to pack any lunch before helping my aunt out at a sailing club, but had bought the piece of kendal mint cake) and the other half was put in a plastic bag before being placed in my inner coat pocket and snacked upon for the next few weeks. ** See also caramel digestives. Got a packet in my coat pocket now...and it is my second packet today! * [[{{Komorebi}} This troper]] is so fond of Ph&#7903; (Vietnamese beef and noodle soup) that learning the locations of Vietnamese restaurants in any given place she may end up in the near future is a priority for her. * This Troper has honey buns. More specifically, glazed honey buns (she can eat iced ones, though can't pack them down all that well.) She can eat 5 or 6 in one sitting if that many are available. * New TFF for this one: Lox on a bagel with cream cheese. Scrumptious. * Pastylover2 has a few.

** Cornish Pasties (hence my name) ** Curry, just like [[RedDwarf Dave]] ** Dairy Milk with Caramel ** Walkers Roast Chicken chrisps. (Gotta respect my British heritage) Beef and Onion ones too! ** Reese's Peanut Butter Cups! '''MY GOD!''' * I used to LOVE certain brand of cereal, until a box came with fungus and...it was not pretty. From that day onwards, anything that was in that last breakfast (said cereal, certain brand of milk and certain brand of orange juice, all of them a must in my former diet) taste like vomit to me. Also happened with black beans when I was four, but that's another story... * This Troper's love for pizza is so great and borderline obsessive that ''his little brother came to associate that type of food with him.'' What does your big brother like to do? "Eat pizza and use the computer". I am a very pathetic man. ** You are WRONG about the pathetic thing. So, so wrong. * Town House crackers, the original kind. This troper used to eat them in every school lunch from elementary onwards and, if they weren't so unhealthy, could easily put them away by the wrapperful. To this troper, a good meal at home (or a subpar one, or a bad one) isn't complete unless it's chased by five (or ten) Town House crackers. * For this [[LavenderCat troper]], bacon cheeseburgers and Dr. Pepper/Mr. Pibb (they're pretty much the same thing for me). Every restaurant I've ever gone to, the first thing on the menu I look for is a bacon cheeseburger and Dr. Pepper/Mr. Pibb. In fact, I'm getting hungry just thinking about them... * This troper's are chicken ramen, cinnamon buns, lemonade, cookie dough ice cream and butterfingers (usually at the same time). My little sister however loves food in general and my little brother is just a [[PickyEater picky eater]] * Curry rice for the win! * [[{{Tropers/Skyknight}} This troper]] once had a ''cat'' with an unusual Trademark Favorite Food. Once, his mother was using a piece of angel food cake (for strawberry shortcake) to gesture about something, and the cat in question actually ''took it from her hand and ate it''. Ever since then, we found that shortly after anybody brought in angel food cake, the cat would go mad with desire, and wouldn't leave ''anyone'' alone until we bribed her with a piece. * This Troper absolutely loves Vietnamese food (especially Pho Bo) and is currently suffering withdrawal as the little family run Vietnamese place is closed for the entirety of November. * [[@/LeighSabio This troper's:]] ** Pad Thai ** Tofu ** Green Tea * Keiya loves tuna sandwiches. She used to eat one a day, *every* day for lunch. In fact, when she was in preschool, there were kids who identified it as "Keiya's sandwich", not tuna. She's cut down, but it's still very much a go-to favorite. * Everyone knows to get me beef jerky and a rootbeer when they're out getting snacks.

* Tropers/EnglishMajor: I'm not a PickyEater, and that's handy as a [[SelfDeprecation poor Mexican]]. But if I had to pick one...It'd be peaches: canned peaches. Get me a pack and watch me gorge on the peaches and slurp down the juice. * Lentil soup. Go ahead, laugh. I could eat it every day (in fact, a month ago, I was for about two weeks straight). I can seriously kill for lentils, especially if the soup is so thick you can vertically drop a knife in it and have it stay that way. The way it's usually made in the Mediterranean results in a very savoury dish, though. I think that's mainly due to the olive oil; some people do eat it without oil, but these people are known as "persons who like bland brown bits of pulse swimming in water". Just give me half a loaf of bread and about half a pound feta cheese, and you make me happy. * This tropers goes crazy for chicken wings with sweet barbecue sauce. I have a ton of other favorite foods, but that's my favorite favorite food. Wait, what? * This troper has a particular fondness for pasta. * This troper just [[BigEater likes food in general,]] but a few stand out. Red velvet cake, tamales, chicken mole, gingerbread, chicken katsu (chicken katsu ''curry'' is especially good), gelato, spam musubi, lumpia, paninis, garlic bread, pasta with any kind of cream sauce (but not fettuccine alfredo, oddly)... I could go on. Coffee is my drink of choice, unless I'm at a certain place where they sell chai tea boba smoothies; that stuff is the nectar of the gods, I swear. * Orange juice! Yay! * My favorite foods include pizza, cheeseburgers, Chinese food, shrimp, crab, fried egg and sausage sandwiches, tacos, egg rolls, spaghetti, lasagna and fried chicken. * This troper's four major food groups are Powerade, mountain trail mix, regular Chex Mix, and cranberry-grape juice. People at debate tournaments are loathe to ask for some, due to me practically living on it. * For this troper, Cadbury Mini-Eggs. Not the kind with caramel in them, the kind that come in the purple bag, are about the size of your thumbnail, and have the thin candy shell on them. This troper can and will eat them like popcorn. * This troper likes garlic bread. His dad likes Gobstoppers. * This troper's cousin likes pizza so much, that when my school's anime club was selling pizza during a lunchtime fundraiser for the school's clubs and sports, he wanted me to ship a pizza from Los Angeles (where I live) to Chicago (Where he's attending college). It's also worth noting that a pizza place in Lake Tahoe knows his name, what he wants to order, and the address of the cabin we used to stay in during the summer because my cousin ordered pizza from there so much. * Dr. Pepper or Dr. Pepper Cherry and Beef Jerky. Stuffed Crust Pizza and Buffalo Wings and I'm all good. * Gimme some roast beef, browned potatoes and RC Cola and I'll be fine. That is, until I start wanting pepperoni pizza, spaghetti and meatballs, bacon cheeseburgers... * This tropette has a lot of favorites too long for this page, but her absolute number one has to be cheesecake. Not the wussy ricotta-

Italian stuff either, but a good solid slice of New York cheesecake that includes at least a half pound of cream cheese. Unfortunately, she only has access to home-cooked ( heaven in a spring-form pan - but only on her birthday or Thanksgiving) or the Cheesecake Factory (which is also delicious, but ridiculously high-calorie and expensive). * I've been known to have such an obsession with Doritos that people actually buy me a family sized bags for my birthdays/Christmas. And yes, the whole thing is eaten in under a day. Actually I've kind of got a thing for anything that's cheesy, which is bad since I'm lactose-intolerant. But I love cheese! * {{MahoghanyAntarctican}} loves herself some popcorn. The twist? She's allergic to it and gets itchy whenever she eats it, along with headaches and dizziness. Her friends try to keep it away from her, sob. She also likes chewing gum a lot. Usually Juicyfruit, to the point where her friends comment on how she smells like it. Her Trademark ''Un''favorite Foods, though, are beef and raisins. Both of those foods are Squick-y to her. * Dear god, where should [[@/BlakeDiamond I]] begin? Let's see, I liiiiike...: ** Lamb (Gift from god, no pun intended) ** Muscles (2nd best food to come from the sea. First being crawfish, of course.) ** Bacon (who doesnt?) ** Nacho/queso cheese dip ** Pepper Jack cheese (dont ask me why, I just do) ** Roast beef ** White chocolate (dont. say. '''''anything'''''. You pervs.) ** Jones soda * [[Tropers/RetroFriday This Troper]] requires the tasty foods of pepperoni pizza, cold cut sandwiches, potato chips, cinnamon rolls, and lemonade so that I can stay fully charged during work. * This troper loves apples, and all her close friends know it and poke fun at her for it. Her other favorites are popcorn and corned beef, but not many people know that she enjoys those things. * This trooper loves her meat(anykind) that she can't stand living without it. Also i can't live without Mexican food,pasta,pomegranates,pancakes,waffles,apples,potatos, omelets, and jolly ranchers. * This troper likes pretty much any kind of chicken she's tried. * Mushrooms, root beer, crepes, curry (any type), apples, chicken, sashimi, and cold soba are this troper's favorite foods. * I love Jones Soda. Even when I feel like everything else tastes like crap, Jones Soda will always taste the best. Which really sucks, since it's become very hard to find where I live. * This troper's kind of famous at work for ordering a grilled cheese sandwich consisting of cheddar and ketchup on pita. Believe it or not, cheddar and pita actually make a good pairing for a sandwich. My other favorites are root beer and pumpkin pie. It is, in fact, near impossible for me to pass up buying root beer during a grocery run, and yet I usually go through all of it in one, two days tops. * Good, filtered water for this troper. He's had it nearly every day since he moved out (he can't drink milk, it's for cereal only...group

home rules, you know? Plus, milk is pretty pricey these days), now he has a full glass before bed. (don't worry, he can hold it.) * This troper 'will' deny being a PickyEater, but most often finds he will prefer a great many foods with Ketchup and/or Mayo, even prefering to mix those for dipping fries and/or Chickenstrips. This tropers american boyfriend, because of the previously mentioned preference to ketchup and/or mayo, considers Canada, this tropers land of origins, to be the king of condiments and calls Poutine(A sort of national food item made with fries, any stringy cheese that melts easily though most often mozarella or cheese curds and usually brown gravy poured hot all over it) condiment salad. * This troper likes hazelnuts. They're crunchy, but the internal part is delicious. Other kinds of nuts are great too! Also GARlic, not by itself, but added to other food. Try putting slices of raw garlic on buttered toast. * This troper has had at least one peanut butter and jelly sandwich pretty much every single day of her life. When I was little, my doctor put the 'one sandwich a day' restriction in place and I (along with my sister) attempted to sneak into the kitchen to make ourselves sandwiches in the dead of night. You would think that by now I would be sick of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. But no. I LOVE them. Om nom nom. * [[Tropers/LanceOmikron This Troper]] is addicted (perhaps literally) to Goldfish Crackers. If I happen to discover any, they ''will'' be eaten. There's usually an empty carton (we're talking the large 30 oz. ones) or two in my room as they're demolished in a day, perhaps two if it's lucky. Also, rather than chewing them, This Troper prefers to swallow them whole, usually several at a time. * This troper has a few, some of which he's quite snobby about. Unfortunately, this troper is also VERY prone to [[JabbaTableManners Jabba Table Manners]] and finding foods [[OrgasmicallyDelicious Orgasmically Delicious]]. Anyway, these are my favorites, since I could never narrow it down to one: ** '''Ethiopian Food'''. Oh my fucking god. You have not LIVED until you have had this. In terms of a "regional food" this is easily my favorite, though I also love... ** Indian (Butter Chicken being my go-to dish), Thai, Vietnamese, and Chinese (with the favorite probably being Cha Siu Bao, a.k.a. Hum Bow, a.k.a. Pork Bun) ** Individual foods/toppings/ingredients would be: Lamb, Goat Cheese, '''BUTTERSCOTCH''', Piroshkys, White Chocolate, Creamy Milk Chocolate (like the Brits and the Swiss do it), REAL Burgers (Goldie's Patio Grill in Tulsa, people!!!), Sweet Tea, Genova Deli Sandwiches in Napa, Ca, Whipped Cream, Ceaser Salad, Potato, White Gravy, any dessert with Cream Cheese in it, Dough/Batter, Whipped Cream, Pimento Cheese, most fried things, Zapp's Potato Chips, and Chai Tea. ** Special mention must also go to true Chicago Style Pizza, cornmeal infused crust and all. * This Troper likes [[BigEater almost everything]]. But a special mention to: cheese doodles, Coke, pizza, spring rolls, OREOS, chocolate chip cookies(any kind), any sour gummy candy, home-made icecream(especially the mint and raspberry sorbets. OMNOMNOM...),

tomatoes, ORANGES, raspberries, salty licorice, and CHOCOLATE. * [[{{Tropers/Haldo}} Buffalo wings!]] <3 * This troper is an extermely PickyEater, but I LOVE pancakes! With lotsa BUTTER! MMMMM... ** Also, strawberries, candy, and popcorn. * For me, it's french fries. Tater tots, and potato smilies (ESPECIALLY potato smilies...) and other potatoes (except mashed potatoes) also qualify, providing they have never touched ketchup. If they have touched ketchup, they immediately become disgusting. ** And onions and eggrolls. Not together, though. By the way, onions and peanut butter, though wonderful on their own, are NOT a good combination. Just so you know. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial It's not like I've tried it or anything]] * [[Tropers/JohnBullJohnnyCanuck I]] love anything chocolate, especially paired with caramel, pretzels, mint, or cookies. Or all of the above. I also cannot go without: ** Jaffa cakes, Orange Tic-Tacs, Mashed potatoes, Coca-Cola, any sort of ice cream, or any sort of Indian food. * My dad loves salad, my best friend loves pumpkin pie and tea, etc. I swoon at the sight of blueberry pie or a good Boston Kreme. Like the previous troper, I almost always carry Orange Tic-Tacs with me. But none of these, regardless of the daily consumption, have anything on my absolute, head-over-heels, will-do-absolutely-anything-for adoration for pasta. I have received pasta for my birthday on well more than one occasion. There's really nothing more to say about it I ''love'' pasta. And not in an it's-my-favorite-food kind of way. More like in an it's-sent-from-heaven sort of way. Sometimes my mother will ask us what we want for dinner and she immediately tells me to shut up because she ''knows' what I'm going to say. It's given me a bad case of carb face, but I don't care. I'd rather be the fattest bastard on the planet than live in a world without noodles. I'm getting hungry just writing this. I need to go make dinner. * I love biscuits. Hardees' homemade biscuits to be more precise. Mom loves to mix cereal, coffee, and milk and eat that. * [[Tropers/LovelyMachinist This troper]] absolutely loves Chicken Caesar salad. She can chug down a whole bottle of Caesar sauce, even if there's nothing to go with it. * [[Tropers/{{terlwyth}} terlwyth]] loves hazelnuts,from Nutella,to Shortbread,to Ice Cream,as far as he's concerend ya' can't go wrong with hazelnuts,not that it stops there despite being a BigEater ** He also drinks Irn Bru when he can ** He'll always order a Po'Boy when he goes to a diner ** And always go for carbonara (that's pasta with cream and bacon) when at an Italian restaurant,if of course he can't get some prosciutto ** Chocolate ** Fried Calamari with horseradish and ketchup * Gummy peach rings for me. Preferably accompanied by Cherry Pepsi. * Red Vines, Beef Jerky, Red Velvet Cake, Cupcakes, Dr. Pepper, and White Chocolate ----

Going back to TrademarkFavoriteFood? Bring a {{Wick}}, the wiki loves them. ---<<|TroperTales|>> <<|LaconicWiki|>>

Tradesnark * [[{{Tropers/A-l-e-x-99}} This Troper]]!!! ** I also put symbols after "ThatOtherWiki" and other TV Tropes memes. I used to do this with memes in general, but I quit that after discovering 4Chan. * Instant-message conversations between [[Tropers/PL7764 this troper]] and one of his friends come to a lasting standstill so frequently that our StockPhrase for those situations, "Now What?", is frequently written as "Now What?". * This Troper has a [[NintendoWii Mii]] with a symbol before his name. * I've heard "True Christian", used in mocking fundamentalists, etc. * I tend to use "Dark Past" while mocking emo chracters. It's probably been done before, though. ---TradeSnark is a registered trademark of TropeCo.

TragicDream * I often hear that my dream of getting into print journalism is this, even from his own father. I aim to prove otherwise, in large part because I can't bring himself to give up on it as he, having worked a highly unpleasant temporary job, have some idea of what's in store for me if I do. ** [[YouAreNotAlone Same here, but I want to write novels. Good luck to you and live that dream!]] * Me? I want to be a Navy SEAL. I have aspergers. Come 2013, when the DSM-5 is published, it's going to become High Functioning Autism. This will almost surely bar me from any branch of the military, let alone SOCOM. And yet I still keep training... * [[{{Tropers/SNDL}} SNDL]]: From time to time, I have dreams of this kind, and feel ''very bad'' when I wake up. Most of these dreams, though, have more to do with ''watching'' a show I never saw (due to it never being available in my country), ''playing'' a game I never had (due to it being very old or no longer for sale), or ''kissing'' a girl I had a crush on before finding out that she had a boyfriend already. The only time I feel happy when having a dream of this kind is when it has to do with something very bad (such as having a FlameWar somewhere). * My TragicDream is especially painful considering it's so very simple. I want to live with my parents, but considering each member of the family move at least once a year, it's impossible. ---You'd like to go back to TragicDream, wouldn't you? Too bad, the page is gone, and what you're reading now is a product of your pitiful,

broken mind.

TrainingFromHell * This troper and her brother were already playing at Expert level in the ''GuitarHero'' series, but weren't ''that'' spectacular at the games otherwise. Then we bought ''Guitar Hero: Metallica'', which is pretty much an entire game made up of ThatOneBoss songs and worked our way through it. A few months later,''Smash Hits'' came around, and the two of us outright ''demolished'' the entire Expert band career mode (Guitar + Bass), five-starring all but two songs. If you can beat ''GH: Metallica'', you can handle pretty much anything else the series can through at you. * I once thought about running 100 laps around my block every week. I then slapped myself with not stupidity. * Ever try training as a pro wrestler. Think about it this way...HUNDREDS OF HACK SQUATS. * This is how [[{{Cosman246}} I]] prepare for math tests. Go through all the problems in the chapter, and more. My dad told me that he prepared with even ''more'' problems and discipline, because he had to (you'd understand if you went to his schools). * A friend of [[DarcDiscordia mine]] once took it upon himself to teach me swordsmanship with various types of swords- broadswords, katanas, rapiers, and so forth. Said teaching involved actual live steel swords. Sharp ones. He was at least careful about it- the only reason we really used steel swords is because we didn't have any reliable fake ones. In a fit of irony, the one time we used wooden trainers instead of steel ones (since neither of us owned a real broadsword), he smote me in the side of the head, breaking my glasses and leaving a nasty knot on my temple for weeks. ** I did the same, only it was me on equal ground with another friend and it was practice sparring rather than instruction. The weapon my friend was using? A BROADSWORD! a blunted broadsword, but a broadsword nonetheless. My weapon? Said weapons sheathe. I lampshaded the danger involved in this after getting struck in the shoulder with the weapon heavily enough to leave a bruise. [[CasualDangerDialogue "If that had been a sharpened sword,]] [[NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow I'd be dead now."]] In hindsight, a really stupid risk to take. * To [[{{Azzizzi}} this troper]], the worst training is that kind that is completely unnecessary and pointless. For example: ** Before deploying to Iraq, I had to take a familiarization course on the M-16 rifle, a weapon I've used for 20 years. To make matters worse, the course was online and you had to get 100 percent to pass. This would have been acceptable if it had contained information that was valuable, but the questions required you to memorize arbitrary information, such as the order of safety rules ("the first safety rule is...") and the names of positions, like "ready rest" and other things that you'd never need to know. Ever. ** In another military course on report-writing, the instructor went through everything on the template. At first, it made sense, especially when covering things like what format to put the date in and how to file the report, but at some point, the instructor should

have said, "The rest is self-explanatory," but he didn't, so he went through every single thing, like, "Where it says 'last name,' put your last name." ** In the early 90s, I was in a military course that had a requirement to teach two hours of familiarity with a Jeep. At this time, Jeeps had already been phased out of service in most places, so this school only had HMMWVs (Hummers). The training material had not been updated and the instructor had already been warned about teaching anything that was not part of the curriculum. What did he do about the Jeep issue? He pulled the HMMWV up and parked it and then gave us the instructions on the Jeep as if it was a Jeep, knowing most of us would never see another Jeep. It was so bad that he would say things like, "Okay, in the Jeep, there will be a clutch and you press it all the way to the floor before starting the vehicle. This one doesn't have a clutch, but if it did, it would be right here." ** In yet another military course, the instructor had a habit of trying to get involvement from the students at the wrong time. He'd ask questions that none of us would be able to answer, which were also often irrelevent. For example, in a first-aid course, he holds up a needle and says, "Who can tell me what gauge needle this is?" * Clearly everyone seems to think that only physical challenges qualify. This troper has a retired music professor as an English teacher, and she can remember long stretches of her schooling where she practiced three or four hours a day. You think physical stuff is hard? Try listening to the same bar of music ten times slower than it's supposed to be played for five minutes straight, over and over and over again. * This troper went through a lot with crew training. In the course of 5 months, I went from a 12 minute 2K to a 10 minute one. I'm not very strong, but that was the greatest improvement of anyone on the team, and I literally wore weights all the time to strengthen up, and i started running the 1/4 route to the bus stop at a full spring with 20+ pounds of textbook on my back, even in 7+ inch deep snow. I'm also the due who had the drill sergeant nasty for Tae Kwon Do. ** This troper's brother did crew team at a university one year. Their coach's CatchPhrase was "If you're not talking to God, you're not pulling hard enough." * This troper took a 'weed out the week' variant of TrainingFromHell in her computer science teacher. In a second-semester course, the professor was speeding through all the basic concepts of objectoriented programming to also include second- and third-year boolean algebra and data structure concepts, spending one hour to go over concepts that later classes would spend entire weeks on. It doesn't help that the professor in question redirected all questions to our neighbors. And we lost at minimum one hour a week to testing, where we only got 25% credit for having a right answer ("correctness"); we had to get the other 75% through proofs, book quotations, or other such justifications. Out of fourty students who started the class, only 12 were still enrolled two months later; of those half failed. (This troper only passed because she ignored the suggested text in favor of a ''For Dummies'' textbook...) * [[{{chitoryu12}} I'm]] currently rehearsing for my 3rd Shakespeare

play, ''MuchAdoAboutNothing'', after having done ''AMidsummerNightsDream'' and ''RomeoAndJuliet''. ''Midsummer'' introduced the cast to the director's love of yoga and breathing/vocalization techniques, none of which are done for nonShakespeare plays. ''Romeo and Juliet'', however, was hell. The yoga went on for much longer stretches, along with aerobics, crunches, and push-ups. We also discovered that the assistant director is part of a theatre run by an apprentice of Tadeshi Suzuki (http://www.suzukiclass.com/) ; for the uninitiated, various strenuous poses that are held for as long as the director wishes you to hold them, along with fast-paced sitting and squatting pose changes while saying lines of dialogue to learn how different body postures influence speaking. The final rehearsal ended warm-ups with the cast gathering into a circle and saying something they like about themselves and something that hate, which ended with almost every member of the cast breaking down into tears. ''Much Ado'' will not be having a crying circle, but two particularly vulnerable cast members began crying during an exercise on being yourself around everybody in the show, and we still have 1.5 hour physical and mental warm-ups before rehearsal, along with the last five rehearsals having a "speed run" to try and finish the entire 2-hour show in 45 minutes or less (with myself and Claudio speaking at hyperspeed to get through our monologues), followed by a full runthrough at normal speed. Funny enough, it works. Our performances are, honestly, amazing, and we will have successfully put on a Shakespeare play in 56 hours of rehearsal. ** To emphasize, ''none'' of this is done for other plays. The musicals have short aerobic and stretching sessions and some vocal warm-ups, but that's it. By performing ''Romeo and Juliet'' and ''Much Ado'' over the summer, the director is able to take advantage of longer rehearsal times without worrying about cutting into time spent on homework or at school. 2-hour rehearsals can be stretched into 4. * A fairly mild example: this troper once had a dance teacher at school who also worked at a local dance studio (famous, incidentally, for embodying this trope). Said teacher had a strict rule about not talking in class. One day, when the students wouldn't shut up, she made good on her continually threatened punishment of arm exercises. These involved holding one's arms out, up, or both for about 20 minutes, and if anyone lowered their arms, everyone had to start over. Needless to say, they talked much less after that. * This troper recently began training to be a pro wrestler. 2 other guys who came for a tryout but didn't bring a down payment stuck around to watch me anyway. I don't think they're coming back. * This is a large part of how [[@/{{Comartemis}} This Troper]] learns to play new competitive video games, especially Halo 2 and TeamFortress2: round up some more experienced buddies, open up multiplayer, and get [[CurbStompBattle roflstomped]] over ''and over'' '''''and over''''' until I start picking up on the strategies they use and come up with ways to counter them. * One of the PE exams [[{{Tropers/Betterthanstrawberry}} this troper]] had to go through in middle school was running several laps around a poorly paved city block in the middle of the day. When all was done and most of the class were laying on the ground sweating, the

notoriously douchey coach told this troper (who was, and is still considered nerdy, but was among the most physically fit in the school) that he [[FailedASpotCheck missed a couple of laps]]. Being a bit too exhausted to think clearly, this troper immediately told the coach to commence reproductive activities with himself (obviously not in those exact words), earning him a punishment consisting of 50 consecutive push-ups. No, I didn't make any of this up. ** A jog plus 50 pushups=training from hell? ** Currently, his daily exercise routine consists of 50 push-ups and 25 sit-ups. Both are usually done after electric guitar exercise (which tends to give his fingers blisters, and sometimes cuts) and. [[MotherRussiaMakesYouStrong his daily reading of his Russian dictionary]]. ** Sounds like a sub-par high school wrestling practice. * VMI's resurrection week. Mentally easy, because you've already been there for about 6 months. Physically not as much. Your upperclass "friend" (dyke in vmi lingo, don't ask) will usually make you do 2011 pushups spread through the five days, in addition to PT and push sessions every mourning, lunch afternoon and evening. At the end of the week, comes breakout, a very long day of nothing but sandbag workouts, marches and "sweat parties" starting at 4:30 or 5 that ends very late in the afternoon. Not the worst thing in the world, but leads to the happiest evening of your life. * Preseason training for sports at my school is almost always difficult. More so when it's your first year on a high school level team, most everyone there was on said team last year, and you have a severely torn thigh muscle that's difficult to walk on but somehow you manage to make it through practice with. Because it was the week of tryouts the athletic trainer wasn't around to give advice and I chose not to sit out from anything even though it ended up preventing my leg from healing for most of the season. But the point- it was pretty darn painful. ---You can't go back to TrainingFromHell until you hop on one foot all the way around town 10 times on a hot day. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TrainingThePeacefulVillagers * Entire campagains ThisTroper has Dmed become filled with 'peaceful villages' that are actually death traps for monsters below a given power level (without [[HealingFactor some kind of resistance]].) This does leave the PC's with the serious threats, but also makes invasion plots rather self defeating. [[BeyondTheImpossible Taken to the extreme]] by one particulurly industrious wizard mass producing 3/day wands of [[MacrossMissileMassacre magic missile]] and distributing them.

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* I do this. A LOT. "Hello. What deep dark corner of slimy dark evilness have you come out of?" or, if it's one specific kid "Hello, Cat." He HATES that name. * I remember during high school I had a fight with a peer. I don't remember the reason, but he was hitting me, and I was just sitting there. Then things reached a breaking point when he caused the gum I was chewing to fall out of my mouth. I turned around, held his arm in a hold and stuck the gum I was chewing in his hair. And then punched him. Once. * I am starting to have this happen. My scale of anger goes like this: Annoyed>Potential for cussing and snarky comments>Potential for violence (It is hard to get me here)>Smiling. Once I start bowing and making my voice higher pitched, start running. No, seriously. As in, I will choke you if you are dumb enough to start ticking me off when I'm in smiling mode. * This troper once attended a summer camp, which had more classes than camp in it ([[YourMileageMayVary Not that that was a bad thing]]). Most of the teachers were of the goofy sort, but one in particular topped them all. During one of the alumni classes he taught, one of the students mentioned an incident of reverse religious discrimination that had happened at her school. The teacher got very quiet and very serious, even indicating that he was "[[{{Understatement}} ticked]]." ** What on earth is "reverse religious discrimination"? * I smile when I'm in this mood. People know when to back off. * [[Tropers/{{Belfagor}} I]] am generally polite and prefer to solve petty conflicts in a diplomatic way. Also, I don't manage to look into other people's eyes, earning the reputation of a quite submissive element. However, when ''really'' angry, I manage to look into the interested person's eyes while my nostrils slightly dilate. And that's enough to make bigger people back down. Must be the GreenEyes. * This troper only shout and screams when he's bugged by something unimportant. I'm at my quietest when ''really'' hacked off, or in a serious mess. ** The same here, troper. I will always be extremely polite, calm and emotion-less when really pissed off. After some tiring day, ''in the middle of the classroom'', some girls behind me kept insulting me. I just turned my head to face them, smiled kindly, and ''smashed one of the girls' pencil case into the other girl's face''. And I politely asked, afterwards "Do you need any help ?" The girls were pissed, as you could guess. ** That's not just me does this, then? I was trying to teach a bunch of inexperienced students how to use a sword, and a random stranger came in and started [[NoIndoorVoice TALKING TO HIS FRIENDS VERY LOUDLY IN AN ECHOEY HALL SO THAT MY STUDENTS COULDN'T HEAR ME SPEAK]]. So I simply sheathed my sword, walked over and cleared my throat. He kept yammering to his friend. Tried again. Still nothing. After that, I settled for "Excuse me, ''sir''" and proceeded to lecture him for endangering my students through his carelessness. Never raised my voice above cold politeness, but he still left remarkably quickly. Maybe the fact I was wearing a sword had something to do with it. * After weeks of being [[{{Understatement}} annoyed]] by her partially incompetent French teacher, this multilingual troper finally decided

that enough was enough. With what the people in the class later described as [[SlasherSmile "The creepiest fuckin' smile ever"]] she proceeded to tell him how useless and pitiful he was, ''in the language he was suppossed to be teaching her'', while calmly not even lifting her eyes from her sketchbook. The drawing? A dummy in a suit being hanged by barbed wire who looked suspiciously like the teacher in question. * This troper rarely gets the hotheaded kind of angry due to his emotional control, and will skip straight from annoyed to this. However his body language relaxes, which could be read as submission, and he becomes exceedingly polite and formal in his speech which will either pacify his aggressors, or is shortly followed with a [[{{The Reason You Suck Speech}} calm critique of the aggressor's failings]], and if the fool is stupid enough to try to be physically violent he is dropped immediately and consistently until he backs off, but without any serious injuries because that creates hassles with the police * This Troper sometimes gets like this, and for some reason it seems to give me a huge bonus to Intimidate checks. I'm thinking of one instance in particular, when I was walking through the main lobby of my high school, and a freshman threw her water bottle over the stairs and it hit me in the head. Hard. Hurt like hell. I don't know why, but that seems to be a pattern in my life--if someone is throwing something around carelessly anywhere near me, it always seems to end up hitting me, usually in the head. I walked up to the freshman in question, and in a calm voice explained to her that water is heavy and that it /hurt/. That she was being careless and could have seriously injured someone. I then proceeded to tell her that I was going to pour the water bottle out and dump it on her head. She said "Okay" and I did. In retrospect, it was fairly [[KickTheDog evil]] of me and [[WhatTheHellHero not one of my finer moments]]. * This Troper has only truly lost his temper once when young, discovering in the process that the red mist is NOT a metaphor. Since then, troper has been concentrating on self-control. This has succeeded to such a degree that this Troper now gets apparently calmer and quieter the more angry he gets. Fortunately, he has only had to summon said fury once, to see off a would-be mugger. Muggers don't like having their knives removed forcibly from their hand and this Troper was impressed by how fast said mugger fled. Still scared over how dangerous he can be, and praying a similar situation never rises again. * [[Tropers/{{Nemica}} This troper]] remembers one from the sysadmin at her former school. One of her classmates had disabled their room's PC's admin account and set up his own. Having a sudden revelation, said sysadmin said something in the lines of "[classmate] is screwing with that computer." and rushed past her towards her classroom. Out of a mix of curiosity and boredom, this troper followed him. He didn't rise his voice above normal. Even his tone didn't really change. But even thinking back to that scene gives this troper the creeps. * This troper's drama teacher/ play producer. He's loud, boisterous, and overall a very funny guy. But if we're doing really badly during rehearsal, screwing around, goofing off, not paying attention, etc he goes quiet. Silent. He'll sit there, arms folded and unmoving, until

someone notices. Then we all get real quiet, real fast. Because he's freaking scary when he gets mad- the glares and cold voice are just so much more effective. * This troper herself. She's generally an easygoing sort, [[GenkiGirl with a mouth that runs a mile a minute and cheerful greetings and hugs all around.]] I don't usually swear, and it takes a lot of work to get me actually angry; I'm prone to shrugging off insults or making a joke out of them and laughing a lot. I'm also passive aggressive. My friends have gotten pretty good at just letting me leave if we're in an argument and I get very quiet and walk away. If they chase after me they sometimes catch my quiet, monotone whisper of "I hate you. I hate you, I hate you, I really f*cking hate you. You're ''insert individual-specific insults here'' and I ''hate you'',"- additional fbombs optional. Said mantra is usually delivered with a smile on my face. Once, one of my friends made me really angry- I can't remember how- and I ran away. Literally, as we were running a warm up for field hockey. She ran after me, asked me why I was running away, and I said something along the lines of "I swear to god if you f*ing follow me I will f*ing hurt you, so leave me the f* alone." Not one of my prouder moments... * This troper had an incident where he honestly thought he was either going to A) Die B) be seriously injured or C) Inflict A or B on the person in question. A bit of back story: I was hanging with a friend from high school and she had brough her boyfriend who was fresh out of AIT for the Nat Guard and we were shooting the shit. Guard boy makes an offhand remark about the Air Force, and I respond with a crack on the Guard (something about meat sheilds, don't quite remember) because he had spent the entire time insulting me, my religion,and my brother(who is entering Air Force to be a CRO). Mr. Tough guy gets up and threatens to throw me out of the third story window that I was less than a foot in front of. I am understandably pissed off at this point,but I remained calm and him as politely as I could to get out of my apartment. The situation is diffused and they all leave, and I get a call later from my friend saying that I scared the over loving hell outta both of them as I had never raised my voice and was as calm as a glass smooth lake. Moral of the story: Politeness and tranquility add alot to intimidation, as it is nigh impossible to fake it and the other party gets the distinct impression you will rearrange their internal organs all over the room without any outward signs of emotion. * [[@/SoWeAteThem My]] [[ItMakesSenseInContext remedial math teacher]] was very much prone to this, to the point where he would have to tell us what emotions he was feeling. He didn't frown in the least, not even after an incident which caused him to resort to the ClusterFBomb to describe us (and reportedly got him fired). ** I myself reached a bizarre variation on such. Here's the context: I had tripped over a set of poorly placed cables, knocking a used [=iPod=] and a set of speakers to the ground. The owner managed to invoke this afterwards, in an incident which culminated in me agreeing to pay him more than a fifth of my financial aid checks for the semester. Hours later, I had finally realized how close to a scam this actually was. I tried texting him over repairs. No response. The next

day, I tried calling him. My phone gets little to no reception on college grounds, and it was running out of power. I wound up pacing about outside the grounds, praying to God I'd get a signal. I dialed up the number he gave me--only to find out ''his phone was actively rejecting calls." That was it--or it should have been. Instead, I spent the next half-hour or so in an inhuman state of glee, laughing like a hyena and quite cheerily discussing how far I thought his head was up his ass. * If I'm annoyed at someone, I'll let them know pretty clearly. If I'm seriously pissed off, usually the only obvious indication is that I go into EmotionlessGirl mode and suddenly get very, very [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness articulate]]. * Thanks to my training I'm always pretty calm in a serious situation. Got out a fight with a guy who was bullying a girl because he was scared off by the fact I was so calm that I didn't take my hands out of my pockets or remove my shades. Smart guy. * This troper, usually grits his teeth and grumbles when mildly annoyed, but when truly pissed off I become something one of my friends described as "A cross between [[Monster Johan]] and [[DeathNote Spock]]", possibly because I've always had a huge vocabulary and tend to go into [[spockspeak Spock Speak]] and [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness]]. The example that most sticks out in my mind was from elementary school. this troper had a Sadistic Principal (let's call her "Ms. S) who would really only listen to you if your parents were on the PTA. Mine weren't. A pattern was established: I lose my temper and yell at someone for deliberately annoying me? "Unacceptable. You need to accept consequences. You'll understand when you're older." Another kid (Felix) spends several months regularly pushing e to the ground at recess? "It's your fault for bothering him." Eventually, I got fed up with said kid bothering me, and shoved him. I was immediately sent to her office, and she began giving me the usual "You need to be better, I'm not mad I'm just disappointed, look at me aren't I scary" routine, and I responded with this. -->"Please stop talking. You don't intimidate me, and despite how much you seem to like talking about how I should respect "authority figures", I don't respect you in the slightest. You're an incompetent, egotistical jerk who only cars about students if you can find a way to use them to schmooze up to the PTA. I'm tired of your unequal application of the rules. Either apply them to everyone, or I'll have my parents complain to the district and get you replaced with someone who can actually do their job properly. Good day." I never got sent to her office again, and she retired early at the end of the year. ** Wow. That is definitely a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for you. * Back in high school, I had a teacher who was rather nice. However, nobody wanted to see him being pissed off. Why? Well he, never, EVER yelled, unlike other teachers. He wasn't too tall nor broad. But, I don't know how the hell he did it, but he could make you wet your pants by simply ''glaring'' at you. ** Why do I have the feeling that you've met my father? This is his signature move. He's average height and not particularly bulky in any

way, shape, or form. He's also at a disadvantage thanks to a birth defect that left him with a high-pitched voice (he compares it to the voice of a 12-year-old girl, and it actually IS high enough to me mistakenly called Ma'am over the phone). Despite all this, he never has to yell to get what he wants from someone. All it takes is a stern-but-deadpan lecturing and The Look, which can be felt even if you aren't looking at him and through objects held in between you and him, and is both effective and terrifying enough to warrent capitalization. * This troper is generally quite loud, snarky and has the mouth of a sailor. Usually, when I'm angry, I just become snarkier and bitchier, and perhaps a little violent. On rare occasions, when something really pisses me off, I go completely silent; that's usually when my friends realize something is actually wrong. * This is this troper's automatic reaction to anger, as she is something of a cross between an EmotionlessGirl and a StepfordSmiler and has great difficulty expressing emotions besides happiness or apathy. It gets to the point where no one realizes she's angry, even though to her it sounds like her cheerful words are ''oozing'' sarcasm. * This happens to [[Tropers/{{StrangerCoug}} me]] when I'm really upset to the point that [[HairTriggerTemper speaking only worsens my anger]]. * This troper is very, very difficult to tick off. If I actually care about you and you get me to that point, I might shout your head off. If I don't...Happened once back when I was fourteen and went to my 2years younger brother's class during recess to give him his lunch money, only to see him getting bullied. I grabbed the bully by the collar, and he started bashing me over the head with a bike helmet he was holding. I calmly chocked him until he went limp, took my brother, and walked away. * This troper does this for people he cares little for. On one occasion a boy who had been bullying me outside of class finally decided to pick on me in class. He insulted my name and used several racist expressions. I calmly turned to him and told him he was a fool who needed to pick on others to make himself feel better. I told him to shut up and go home to the dog he called his mother. At a different school, a baseball player thought it would be amusing to grab me by the cheek and lecture me about "safety". I proceeded to grab his arm, twist it, and push him face forward into a bench. Quietly, I then told him that if he messed with me again I would make sure that he would never pitch again. * This troper's older brother has a variation of this. Normally, he's a LargeHam who's goofy and loud 24/7, but when he even becomes a little bit ''annoyed'', he starts acting ''unnervingly calm'' and is suddenly TheStoic until he's gotten over it. * This Troper has a tendency to have the opposite emotional state of whoever he is arguing with when the argument is actually serious. For example, I have one friend who always argues matter-of-factly about the inherent scum-like nature of humanity, so I tend to get agitated when arguing with him. On the other hand, since most people tend to get angry when arguing, I instead take on an eerie calm punctuated

only by the occasional eyebrow raise. I literally stared down people who I was certain were half a breath away from punching me in the face while insulting them. * Zig-zagged in [[Tropers/{{Valbinooo}} my case]] because my "default" expression is where I think I'm pretty calm and laid-back, like usual...but more often than not, people have asked me "Are you okay? You look mad!". When something frustrates me I will scream and curse and holler. When I am genuinely mad at you...you will know. Not because I'm yelling, but because I am calmly telling you exactly what made me mad, and in not-so-nice wording. . . . I'm actually manipulative in general. * When this troper inhales deeply, and then exhales while making a toothy grin and slightly tilting my head; you've gone to far and have crossed the event horizon and you will either cry or lose something (Such as a tooth. or limb.). Easily the best example was in 9th grade, when my best friend was bullied constantly by this prick jock guy. Apparently, not being a blond ditz with huge tits, a fat ass and flat belly who slaps on makeup by the gallon made her the most "fugly bitch" he's ever seen. I cheered her up each time this happened, but eventually this troper couldn't handle it anymore. After seeing prick jock guy harass my friend to the point of crying, I made my little smile as I entered {{TranquilFury}}. This troper then, in a polite and calm demeanor, told prick jock guy EXACTLY what he would do to prick jock guy if he didn't cut it out immediately and left his friend alone, in a way very similar to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR6KjNmN2BA this]]. When he didn't, this troper then did everything he just listed (except the {{eyescream}} and tooth part), all the while completely calm. Don't mess with my friends. * Whenever this Tropette gets truly angry, she becomes very polite and soft-spoken with fists clenched until blood oozes out. She has warned her friends that if they ever see her like that, get the hell out of the room because it won't be the same when the rage comes out. An example of this was when her boyfriend cheated on her with someone much, much younger right in front of her. I took him to the side and told him, "What the am I to you? An experiment?" Cue groin job and headbutt and a job well done. * This Troper once had a MisplacedKindergartenTeacher in ninth grade who annoyed him and his classmates with her antics and way of speaking one too many times, so he decided to confront her during one of her lectures. She was unnerved by his calm tone and low voice. "I appreciate the fact that you'd like to teach us as if we're little kids, but please stop. It's patronizing, demeaning, and condescending, and quite frankly, it seems as though you don't respect us. Either speak to us like we're adults or don't speak to us at all." The class applauded, and within the month the teacher quit and was replaced with one of the best teachers this Troper has ever had.

* This troper being as unpredictable as you can imagine,either suddenly gets openly violent and goes ClusterFBomb crazy or plays this one,all depending on the mood and what the offender does. For example when someone stole my lunch in ninth grade I opted for the former and cussed everybody out. However when someone mocked my religion and destroyed my homework,I calmly got out a water bottle busted the cap and squirted it into the guys face,and then I put him in a headlock,he squiggled free so I scratched him and I still remained silent and stoic. [[{{Angrish}} Hrrk, gk-bzrt, pf- gaak-]] *deep breath* Please return to the [[Main/TranquilFury main page.]] I have a handful of piano wire in my left pocket, and I'd very much like not to use it. ----

TransformationSequence * Whenever this troper is doing any excersize, in any situation, he says Quietly, Full power mode to himself. In Japanese. * {{Sikon}}: As part of my ''Main/WorldOfWarcraft'' character's general obsession with transformations (patterned after my own), I used the Outfitter addon for instant switches between casual clothes and combat armor, and wrote it off roleplaying-wise as [[Main/AWizardDidIt magic]]. So I bound the outfit changes to flashylooking spells that I never use in combat, and for extra points, added a macro to [[Main/ByThePowerOfGreyskull have my character say]] "[[{{Mai-Otome}} Materialise!]]" before the switch to combat outfit. As an unintended side effect, saying that makes her bend down a bit and wave her arms, in a way somewhat paralleling a "real" Main/TransformationSequence. ** From the same game, this troper subverts this with his Druid. Her shapeshifting sequence, as I describe it, is nothing more than a puff of smoke. * This troper...has really seen too much anime. When changing into costume, often around time for renaissance faire, this troper even has a ''transformation phrase''. ** in Japanese. * This troper works at the flea market. In the summer. So every once in a while, the nearby vendors will see him dash off to the car and come back in an entirely different, non-sweaty t-shirt. Ta-da! * This troper likes to pretend to do these all the time. On occasion he often impersonates Jim Carrey as The Mask.He and his best buddy have a their transformation phase be "Wonderfriend powers- activate!". He's also the master of disguise and changes his outfit on a regular basis. * [[{{Brontozaurus}} This troper]] does this with his {{Transformers}}, going so far as to imagine the music from ''Transformers: Cybertron'''s transformation scenes. * [[LWGadra This troper]] has one, usually started with a cry of [[KamenRider "Outdoor Phase, Activate!"]] * This troper's idea for a digimon season involves characters often

making fun of this. Such things include digimon saying "Blablabla evolve!", one character activating Matrix evolution and saying "Super ultra powerful transformation sequence!", and another character (Whose RunningGag was her dropping the digivice) accidentally dropping it in the middle of a sequence. ** I think the Abridged Series does that... Can't tell since I'm on a school computer, which [[strike:blocks]] throttles Youtube down to 56K crappyness. * This troper has been known to mutter "All-range mode". * This Troper sometimes imagines the costume-switch menu in ''{{LittleBigPlanet}}'' (which is normally instantanious, loading aside) having a ''{{Chaotic}}''-style TransformationSequence. (You know, the big circle of code going up a character in a Battledrome...) * The [[OrderOfTheStick Giant In The Playgroud Forums]] holds an annual "GenderBender Week" where participants switch their avatars to the opposite sex. [[@/{{Bisected8}} This Troper]] went as far as animating a (rather choppy) transformation sequence for the 2010 Gender Bender Week (in which his avatar will be the Thief from ''{{Disgaea}}3''. [[[http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2402/gbw2010animation2.gif For the curious.]] * This troper "does this," sometimes...for example, dressing in her prom dress, or a prettier outfit for first day of classes. She'll twirl around while pulling tops/skirts on, kick her legs a bit as she slips a shoe on, do a pose at the end...Yes, this troper is a huge fucking '''dork.''' ** You too? I thought I was the only one. * [[Tropers/ArnoldMcGuire335 This troper]] would shout "[[DenjiSentaiMegaranger Install!]]" or any similar phrase when changing clothes. When taking off jackets or hoodies, he'd shout "[[KamenRiderKabuto CAST OFF!]]" and after the jacket or hoodie is taken off (complete with Zecter sound effects), ends with "CHANGE, BEETLE". ---[[ByThePowerOfGreyskull By the powers granted to me]] by this [[MineralMacGuffin mighty gemstone]], I shall morph this page back into TransformationSequence! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TranslationTrainWreck * [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#7979095 This]] really and truly cracked [[Tropers.ReikoKazama this troper]] up. And she was the one who put that phrase through Translation Party in the first place! ** [[NarratingTheObvious This Just In]]: [[Tropers.ReikoKazama Reikochan]] put this through Translation Party: --> Fashion meets the wild in this adorable dress up doll. Choose from animal parts and awesome clothing to create a truly unique character. --> Anthro is short for Anthropomorphic, meaning giving things humanlike characteristics. Although now the term is also often used for

anything human/animal/furry related. ** ...and it got to --> [[GratuitousJapanese Wairudofasshondoresu]] [[CrowningMomentOfFunny is this lovely dress. You, please choose a nice dress you can create some unique character to your real animals. It is such a personification, provides a means for standing human characteristics. Currently, this term, and / fur-related human / animal are used frequently.]] ** before it gave up. *** This just in!! If you put {{Raocow}}'s anti-Yoshi epithet "Stupid freaking horse!" through TP, [[http://www.translationparty.com/#8264060 it reaches instant equilibrium.]] * This Troper was very disappointed that this would not find equilibrium (maybe man was just not meant to know?): ** "I can feel the shadows at my back, whispering terrible, terrible things that no man was meant to know, I try to shut out there sqaumous gibbering yet by some eldritch power they worm their cruel way into my mind, I cannot rid myself of them , for even as I try they merely grow stronger, feeding on my hopelessness, for what can I do but whimper like a frightened child, when presented with the monstrous incomprehensibility of the one who sleeps across the void, the one who talks in the meaningless tongue, the lord from across the cold stars, he who walks the silent places, the shepard of the abominations, Cthulu fhtagn!" * Interestingly, "You're late to the party!" reaches equilibrium [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9141895 instantly]], as does [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9141927 "I'm late to the party!"]]. * [[TranslationParty/HomePage Translation Partyfied home page.]] * [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6359139 I can't stop laughing!!!!!!!!!]] ** Mmm, nurse spine... * Ever used an online translator such as Babelfish to translate a web page or large block of text between two languages with very different grammatical structures, that also include slang or figures of speech? Yeah. Good luck dissecting the result, because while most of it may be accurate enough to make sense of with some effort, there will be many bits of complete and total gobbledegook that will leave you absolutely baffled. ** For extra fun, try translating the same piece back and forth several times. A few iterations will usually be enough to reduce it to complete nonsense. *** There's a web site called [[http://www.translationparty.com/ Translation Party]] that does exactly this, via Japanese. It's quite hilarious. **** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6358576 The cat ate a small fluffy puppy ugly quickly.]] It started as 'The large, slow, ugly cat ate the small, fluffy, puppy." ***** "Are you a large cat?" became "How cat?" [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6358591 I am not making this up.]] **** Or rather, "In this example, a very Japanese translation, Web site, said he would welcome a third party. I am very bright."

[[http://www.translationparty.com/#5127887]] *** One of their predefined messages is "You've done this before, haven't you." When placed in there, it becomes "And, December 5 a day per day per day per day per day per day per day per day per day per day per day per day per per day per day per day per day per day per day." before giving up--the only difference by the end being an extra "per day" added each time. **** And if you put ''that'' through there, it becomes [[http://www.translationparty.com/#8283167 "On Sunday, the cost has become a daily on May 12.]] Can someone tell [[Tropers.ReikoKazama me]] how it got May 12 from December 5? ***** It's the US/ROW locale problem. US dates are normally written MM/DD/YYYY. Elsewhere, the date is normally written as DD/MM/YYYY or YYYY/MM/DD. It's more like a logic failure tho- the translation engine simply forgot to take into account the locale differences. The latter usually translates fine. The former, however, brings you the month/day swap issue. **** Equilibrium found! has the same problem. it finally gives up after [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6358643 Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please refer to the balance!]] ***** Not anymore it doesn't. It becomes "Equilibrium has been detected" after only three lines. **** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6359808 My name is Michael J is a conductor, I hate children!]] **** ''EdEddNEddy'': If the phrase ''But it was too late! His head exploded!'' is entered, it reaches equilibrium instantly. Try it! ***** EdEddNEddy can be really good for this. "Carrots are good for your eyes can it dial a phone?" becomes "Carrots, you may dial the phone to your eyes?", while "Because I am a brother, and Eddy's brother is a brother, and Eddy is a brother to Eddy's brother, as a brother I am" becomes "My brother, morning, brothers, brothers Eddie and his brother is Ediedi." ***** Or try "This game is far too silly for me to play." It gets deep really fast. In fact, you get a series of sentences that sound as if you are having an argument with yourself about whether you ''really'' want to try this out. **** ''ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'': "Rookie, charge for making an immortal goddess dumb enough to give powers to this bint" turns to gibberish fast. **** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7391389 Jill, the Master of Unlocking, does not translate well.]] *** Put in ''Iiiiiiiiiii'm, comin' up, so you better get this party start-ed...''. It ends up sounding like you're reading a book. **** "As long as I say it through my teeth while smiling sweetly I've never had it fail" ''never reaches equilibrium''. ***** Rather, it bounces between two translations infinitely **** I put in 'I swear to ass I'm gonna kick your God', a phrase already giggle worthy, and it became ''awesome'' very quickly: http://www.translationparty.com/#6498943 ***** Maybe that's because in the link given there's a slash between

the "I" and the apostrophe in "I'm", which drastically changes the meaning. (It ultimately becomes "For me, my ass, Samui M \ ', the name of God, or I'll kick you?") The proper way becomes awesome too though ("Swear I'm going to kick your ass and your hair!"), so I'm not sure which is being referred to above. ***** When this troper clicked on the link, she got, "In my ass \ 'M, called you, trying to believe in God's name you are trying to kick the island, I can not say no to anything." So we've got [[CoitusUninterruptus someone making a call in the midst of anal sex]], [[ChurchMilitant destruction of the environment in God's name]], and an ExtremeDoormat who can't say no to ''[[UnfortunateImplications anything]]''. [[ThinkOfTheChildren Don't show this site to children]]! **** ''MetalGear '': "If your area, or the coordination of emergency issues, but I was surprised to find the meaning of the stiffness of the jaw, Raibufokurokku flashes when the famous purple stuffed worm. I need scissors! 61!" This was as far as Translation Party could go before giving up. **** "I can has cheeseburger?" earns you instant equilibrium and the messages "You're sure are up on your Internet jokes!" or "That Internet joke is funny in any language!" ***** [[http://translationparty.com/#8547729 Check this cheeseburger!]] *** Usagi's quote on the IntoxicationEnsues page. Just... that. ***** "All your base are belong to us" gets you that message too, as well as translating back into "The base belongs to us all." **** ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh The Abridged Series}}'': "Oh my God a giant rock!" Switches between "Oh my god a huge rock!" and [[CrystalDragonJesus "Oh my God is a Giant Rock!]]" Endlessly. ***** Also, just typing in Duel Monsters will automatically be translated to ''[=~Yu-Gi-Oh!~=]''. ***** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#5441039]] "You've done this before, haven't you?" Becomes "Anyway, what I think?" ***** As does "Look at my penis." It switches between "Look at my penis." and "Please look at my penis." *** Who knew that Yoda was [[http://www.translationparty.com/#4597782 so polite?]] *** [[AzumangaDaioh "Blue Three" turns into "Bruce Lee".]] ***** [[VerbalTic Desu]] forever! ****** That turns into [[http://translationparty.com/#7643673 "Death is forever".]] *** Entering the Jack Black quote "You must never underestimate the power of the eyebrow." will gradually say the word "please" more and more, resulting in "If you are following. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please do not underestimate the power of the eyebrow." At least it is polite. **** Similarly, entering the ''Battlestar Galactica''-inspired phrase "You shall see the faces of the Final Five." spits out "5 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares 1 ares is 11111111 is

updated constantly face. Must see and do." The best part? If you don't capitalize the words "Final Five," you get a ''completely different result''. **** Likewise, entering the phrase "Final Fantasy is an RPG, the only one that I need, it's the RPG for me!" (from the [[EarWorm Ear Wormy]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkOA_HAVoqU song]]) gradually generates the word and number 'one' more and more, and alternates between the two in the translation. It ends up with "Fainarufantajiakushon, 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 I must have one single action is 1111111111!" *** Now ''[[http://translationparty.com/#5575175 this]]'' is funny. *** Also: ''[[http://www.translationparty.com/#7500813 Can't take my eyes off you]]'' gets you a rather defensive "You can't take my eyes". *** ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'': "Who the hell do you think I am!?" becomes "This is my second one one one one one one one one one one is hell! ?" [[ItGotWorse It eventually flips out completely,]] ending up as "1 11111111 This is my second one 2 of 2 hell! ?" **** It actually gives instant 'how did it get that' status. It is in love with, you think everyone's I! ? **** It now reaches equilibrium. The result? "Hell I 11111111111 111111111!" *** Public heath warnings off the back of cigarette packets can result in some rather strange messages. Try 'Smoking is highly addictive, don't start'. *** Entering the ''SuperMarioWorld''[='=] "This is Dinosaur Land" speech turns it into the following: ---->Welcome! This is the land of the dinosaurs. Many people in our family Princess, we need to find a strange land that is enough! Come back to appear as Bowser! *** This Troper's favorite method is using lines from the [[http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mythbusters Mythbusters Wikiquote Page]]. The best one I've gotten is "It sounded like we just planted a midget with a paper bag." getting turned into "We planted a bag of beans I saw in another paper." *** I put in "[[MontyPython Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes, garnished with Mornay sauce, a fried egg on top and spam]]" and got [[GratuitousJapanese Robusutaterumidoru Ebimorunesosu]] [[MadnessMantra Top of page Top Top Top Back to the top of the eggs that need access]] HomePage. *** [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#4465639]] Add Chuck Norris and Spartans together, and you. get a lot of "face"s and "right"s. *** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#5180950 Hakumen goes crazy]] **** It sounds a shitload like he's writing his column in a Lonely Hearts page *** The more you whore the large damp cat the more the mother of Scott has a pie in a pie. Turns into some extremly nonsensical and hilarious gibberish pretty soon. *** "Here's looking at you, kid." becomes decidedly creepy when translated... **** The legendary "May the Force be with you" quickly becomes the rather odd "Five force be with you in January", and later the downright incomprehensible "One of the other five have one or two

months and one single-supply one". Also, Illidan Stormrage's famous line from the Burning Crusade intro (Imprisoned for ten thousand years. Banished from my own homeland. And now you dare enter MY realm? You are not prepared... You are not prepared!) becomes "Hail in prison. Were expelled from their homeland. And now, I enter my realm. You can not use ... What is ready?" *** If you take "[[TheBeatles I think I know I mean a yes but it's all wrong that is I think I disagree.]]", it becomes a self-argument over whether or not someone knows the meaning of Jesus Christ. **** This Troper entered "I am the walrus!" and it got stuck in a loop ("I am the walrus? -> [[CrowningMomentOfFunny I have no walrus!]] -> I have a walrus!"). [[spoiler: Then she entered "I am the eggman" and got [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic instant equilibrium]]]]. *** Google Translate has a rather odd EasterEgg where typing in the name of a video game will result in the video game's Japanese title. For instance: **** "ResidentEvil" produces "Biohazard", the game's Japanese name. **** A certain [[MemeticMutation famous line]] from another Capcom [[DeadRising classic]]... [[http://translationparty.com/#9347794 doesn't really change much]]. **** Interesting fun fact. If you simply put mega in a sentence, it'll usually translate to, well, mega. If you insert [[MegaMan Mega ]]''[[MegaMan Man]]'', however, it'll usually change it to {{Rockman}}, his Japanese name. Putting Megaman in as a single word doesn't work though. **** And an inverse, putting in [[{{Castlevania}} Akumajo Dracula or Devil's Castle Dracula]] will change it to Castlevania. *** This is GREAT for Shakespeare quotes. "Oh, that this too, too solid flesh would melt" becomes "Very good blend of meat, Ohio State University". *** "Well, in the middle of the night, and the early morning light, you can hear them a million miles away" - a phrase from the Def Leppard song, that becomes hilarious very quickly. And for very long. *** Entering the chorus of DragonForce's ''Through Fire and Flames'' (which is this troper's current theme song as he's going though multiple hardships) resulted in ''"We are one of waste per day, waiting for the light range. Sun 1000, our lives, carrying the flame of fire, the pain of our loss, feels this year."'' *** The opening lines of the same song are now: ''"Cold winter morning, every time I take the governance of the eternal flame of your death, we fight."'' *** This troper has only had one thing reach equilibrium other than "But it was too late! His head exploded!" (which is mentioned above, but she tried it completely independently [[ContrivedCoincidence without knowing it was even a quote of anything]]). [[http://www.translationparty.com/#5938651 It's a line from Sonic Adventure 2, and it translates perfectly.]] *** This troper has two she particularly enjoys: http://translationparty.com/#5956255 is total truth and reaches equilibrium immediately, and http://translationparty.com/#5956571 starts out philosophical and degrades into 1s. *** "Wave Motion Fist" (as in [[KamehameHadouken Hadouken]]) must be a

magnet for manliness: http://translationparty.com/#6019826 *** I believe [[http://translationparty.com/#6198101 this]] stands on its own. (Particularly amusing to ''StarTrek'' fans.) *** "Hello, I'm the [[ThatGuyWithTheGlasses Nostalgia Critic]]. I remember it, so you don't have to." = "Hi, I have a nostalgic criticism. I do not need to remember." **** "Oh my god, this is the greatest movie I've ever seen in my life!" = "Oh no, this is seen in my life the best movie ever!" **** "Oh, hello. Didn't hear you come in. Greetings and welcome to Ask That Guy With The Glasses." = "Oh, Hello. Welcome message is displayed whether the human rights of the glass." **** "Hello and welcome to AtopTheFourthWall, where bad comics burn." = "Hello, cartoons of the poor, the following is 111111114, are welcome to write at least one wall." **** ** "The database hates you right now. The page may exist or it may not exist. We would clear this mystery up for you, if we could get to the database. We tried to access it, but the site puked up an error." = "I hate the database. 2 pages 21111111,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 one or two possibilities one mu. Specified order is to investigate the mystery of the database. We have tried to access it, the site of the error puked." **** [[http://translationparty.com/#6249297 Lyrics from Annie Get Your Gun]] do something rather odd - the ''first'' result is a metrically perfect alternative second line which almost works gramatically as well. "Anything you can do, I can do better." / "You can do anything I can do well."; "Anything you can sing, I can sing louder" / "You can sing anything, I can sing out". *** "[[TheWho Don't cry, don't raise your eye, it's only teenage wasteland]]" = "We are just your eyes, does not occur in the teens cried, please do not waste it". *** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7711498 It is doubtful that this phrase will ever reach equilibrium.]] ** Around Christmas time, I decided to throw a few passages of The Night Before Christmas into translation party. ** The meme "Has anyone even really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6101000 yields]] sentences that actually make sense; while it is doubtful that it will ever reach equilibrium, it becomes "If the people of our countries are using this method". ** On [[http://tashian.com/multibabel/ Lost in Translation]], which is like Translation Party with more languages, the first verse of "Amazing Grace" goes from "Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound/That saved a wretch like me/I once was lost but now am found/Was blind, but now, I see" to "The narcotic beauty, like very interrupting the uproars, the aid that a deficient devil has pleasure. In her closing was destroyed it, but wait for-it found in the morning, she was without sight, but now, I to see." *** Lost in Translation is funnier for this Brazilian troper because he can put phrases in Portuguese. "Eu sou apenas um rapaz latinoamericano sem dinheiro no bolso" means "I'm just a Latin-American boy with no money on my pocket". Was translated to "American money of PSEM

of the Latin of the boy only of whom the currencies of a cent of have around no pocket". ** Just for fun, I threw the first page quote from WordSaladLyrics into Translation Party. It gave up on trying to reach equilibrium, but putting the last result it gave before giving up ended up reaching equilibrium: "In addition, the enemy vehicle 8 Razaniawakkusu&#26102;&#31169;Rentakaakua 00 minutes later, more than half of the last minute. Slacks" *** Yes, ''exactly'' like that. *** Likewise, "The World is my Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum" comes back "Museum in the world Oisutasupukitchinfuroawakkusu" Well, yeah, it's easy enough to get equilibrium when you turn half the title into [[FunetikAksent Funetik]] {{Engrish}}... *** "I want to be reborn as a microphone", oddly enough, reaches equilibrium immediately. *** "Deal the porch is leading us absurd" becomes "Lead us to deal with the entrance of the absurd"...and the message says "That didn't even make that much sense in English". **** Correction--that was only when it was copy-pasted directly from the WordSaladLyrics page, where "deal" starts with a lowercase d. By changing it to a capital D, it becomes "This Agreement will lead to the door, it makes sense". And then the message says that it ''doesn't'' make sense. **** Likewise, a direct copy-paste of "up to par, Katie buys a kitchen-size, but not me in" yields "The size of my kitchen and reached Keitionrain", but capitalizing the first word makes it "However, in order to establish the size of the kitchen, I think they should buy Pakeiti". *** The Llama Song! --->However, orange trees and overwhelming and I Ryamadakku Ryamaryamaryamakinokoryamaryama Chizukekiryamataburetto Ryamaryama brick house, I live like a potato cake with scoop **** I think it's better this way. Still, might be better to just do the verse and leave the llama part out, since it obviously doesn't translate well. ---->However, orange cake, I have a tree in the living room of my house lead to information that has been dominated by the pool. ** Translating [[TheLegendofZeldaOcarinaofTime Darunia's]] quote "You turned out to be a real man, just as I thought you would!" results in "You turned out to be a real man, I love you!" ** "Will I ever reach equilibrium?" reaches equilibrium instantly. ** In conclusion, [[TVTRopesWillRuinYourLife To destroy the life of your TV Rhetoric]]. *** Even though [[TropesAreNotBad Rhetoric is not bad]]. ** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6284167 It's quite amusing to see how they actually deny what you're saying.]] ** [[DeathNote "Those who oppose that god, they are the ones who are truly evil!"]] becomes [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6455634 "God is actually the first one is not a bad thing!"]] ** This Troper copy/pasted a short political rant about how he thought extreme liberals were not as bad as extreme conservatives, and it [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6597239 eventually came out as]]

"This is a very liberal person, there is a difference between a very conservative person. I said, "Many people said," He was saying Thursday, and I must prove that the most progressive people know, these rights. Very conservative for me, "we" is important whether you agree." ** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6732464 This line]] from ''{{Portal}}'' sprouts disturbing theories about cake... ** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6733648 What do you mean, TV Tropes ruined my life?]] (Reaches equilibrium after 51 steps... or just gives up.) ** "Japanese makes me lol" gets turned into "I will laugh at the news of Japanese Private Colleges and Universities" ''on the first translation.'' It eventually ends up as "I was at university in Japan, private companies had been given"... er, OK. ** The ZeroPunctuation line 'I guess you're all afraid I might ignore to death' becomes horrbily mangled very quickly. ** This troper pasted "With that, the two retreated down the corner, disappearing from Kyon's life entirely." from a HaruhiSuzumiya fanfic. [[http://www.translationparty.com/#6935928 Make sure to scroll all the way down...]] *** Upon further examination, the above troper found that the actual equilibrium of the phrase is "111111111111 Kyon, one, two, one with 212,121 for all 1,111,111,112 1:59 minutes, one by one, one One, he will be completely removed one by one corner." Seriously. ** [[ResidentEvil1 "You were almost a Jill sandwich"]] became "Jill was a little sandwich." No, really. http://www.translationparty.com/#7065318 *** What other narm lines... [[DeathNote 'I'll take this potato chip and EAT IT!']] becomes 'Now I'm eating potato chips.' **** For this troper, writing it out as "I'll take a potato chip... and eat it!" resulted in, "I take it ... I can eat potato chips?" ** "Don't press big red buttons." becomes "Please press the big red button." That...would not end well. ** I typed in "You're sure are up on your Internet jokes!" (after having seen it as a response when I typed in "All your base are belong to us". [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7535445 It ends up looking like a dialogue.]] ** 'Dead moo' (as in the Hackintosh image) becomes ''Mao is dead''. [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7668645 I am not making this up.]] *** 'Living moo' [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7668664 becomes]] ''Plant life'', and 'Cow tipping' ends up as ''Cow transformation is performed''. [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7668681 See for yourself]]. *** "Vampires and werewolves don't get along for reasons us humans can't understand because we have been blinded by the sparkle." becomes [[http://translationparty.com/#7820653 "We must know the reason for the blind vampire wolf."]] I'd make a vaguely idiotic jab at the Literature/{{Twilight}} series, but I just can't get over the thought of how awesome a blind vampire wolf would be. ** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#8083789 FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT.... wait, what.]] ** [[http://translationparty.com/#8680969 Vampires are not wolves.]]

** [[Disney/Mulan We must be swift as the coursing river/With all the force of a great typhoon/With all the strength of a raging fire/Mysterious as the dark side of the moon]] = We need to hunt, all the power and mystery / big typhoon fire Dark Side / River early months / all power is required. ** [[{{Moetan}} Tempera Sumi]] [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9411118 teaches us about figures of Akira Osamu and the mysterious Mushiake.]] * This troper was awful at French, and once as a joke I took my completed homework and fed the whole thing back and forth through Babelfish a few times to see if the teacher'd notice the difference. Thankfully, he did... * Equilibrium finding can be fun. I did your mother became I was your mother. * My philosophy professor assigned Frege's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_and_reference On Sense and Reference]] to the class. Because the original's in German, he linked to a [[http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.gavag ai.de/HHP31.htm&ei=u-lyTOmPOYeesQOjkC9DQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ7gEwAA&prev=/search %3Fq%3Duber%2Bsinn%2Bund%2Bbedeutung%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefoxa%26hs%3DIiK%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official Google Translated version]]-- which turned it into WordSaladPhilosophy containing such gems as: "It would be the meaning of "Evening Star" and "Morning Star" the same, [[LogicBomb but not the meaning]]" and "It may therefore a standing quoted word picture not be taken in the ordinary sense." * Google somehow translated "lallu ki behen lag rahi hai ;)" into English as "Rahi hai ki behen lallu lag;)". It's very mysterious. It doesn't know what the words mean, but it knows enough to change the word order. [[FlatWhat What.]] * I tried using Translation Party for a line of a song in Disney's 'Hercules' that popped into my head. "Who put the glad in gladiator?" turned into "The reason is that many many people are happy with what you and many people from?". Strangely enough, if you leave the question mark out, it reaches equilibrium immediately... * 'Death to all Furries!' becomes 'All that there is no death!', then eventualy 'Death is not all!' * 'Lara Croft: TombRaider' translates perfectly... unless you leave out the colon. Then you get 'Rarakurofutotoumureida'. * When I typed in "to fry" in a Spanish translator, it came up with, "to Federacion de Republica de Yugoslavia." * I just want to go outside to play with my flaming dog becomes [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7234327 I took the dog outside to play with fire]] * Bah, all these computer-generated examples bore me. This Troper once belonged to a linguistics message board, and ran several games of "Polyglottal Telephone", in which a text was repeatedly translated between languages, ending up back in English after 15-20 iterations. With all the translation done ''by humans'', and intelligent linguistics enthusiasts at that, what could go wrong? ---->*

-->"The rider leapt down and dashed toward the witch, carrying a large bundle." (from ''Wyrd Sisters'') became "The rider, who at the departure was in another magic time, and who carried a kettle filled with meat, jumped." ---->* -->"Sources close to Berkeley resident Daniel Arnette report that the 24-year-old percussionist and freelance graphic designer is throwing his life away by habitually seeking happiness and fulfillment from his waking hours." became "Daniel Arnott Berkely was blue as a rat one morning. He wanted to taste like one. He was twenty-four years old when he became an anarchist." ---->* -->CrowningMomentOfAwesome: "The lover's privilege, the hypocrite's mask; to the young girl, faith; to the married woman, hope; to the old maid, charity" (a riddle, the answer being "a kiss") became "The kingdom of friends, and the cloak of liars, strong girls, hopeful women, and revenge upon goats." * Brazilian automotive websites are fun! Babelfish translates ''perua'' as "turkey hen"; in context it means "station wagon". * The best TranslationParty I found was "[[KillEmAll Oh no we are all going to die]]" becoming "[[{{Immortality}} Oh, we do not die]]" via "[[YouWillBeSpared Oh, we do not all have to die]]". * And then there's {{Raocow}}'s anti-Yoshi epithet "Stupid freaking horse!", which when put through the [[http://www.conveythis.com/translation.php Bad Translator]][[hottip:* :(It's like Translation Party and Lost in Translation, but using all available languages on Google Translate.)]] comes out as "On the Database!". What it has to do with horses or Yoshis is up to our imagination. ** That's not all, though. If you put "{{Touhou}}" or "ZUN" in the same translator, they come out as "Planning" and "Engine" respectively. Maybe ZUN had made a game engine as his plan to make every Touhou game consistent...? * Mangled Chinese-to-English translations ("Chinglish") are an endless source of amusement. One of this troper's faves was seen on a box of fireworks. In the instructions, the logical (and obvious) first step would be "open box." Well, the translator apparently didn't know the word "open," but did know the word "close" as well as having a tenuous grasp of English prefixes. So, the first step in the instructions became, "disclose box." * This is going to take a bit of explaining. There's a screencap webcomic out there called ''Sinbad Comic'', which uses screencaps (mostly) from the Lou Ferrigno film ''SinbadOfTheSevenSeas''. During a break from the normal comic, the maker of it posted extras. The largest category of extras was the results of taking the dialogue from the comic and running it through Translation Party. Many of the lines are great! * This South Africa troper was using a website called "Lost in Translation" ( http://tashian.com/multibabel/ ) - I was bored. So, being as bored as I was, I typed in "South Africa is a large country in the south of the continent of Africa. It is bordered by Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambiqe, Swaziland and Lesotho. The current

president of South Africa is Jacob Zuma". After the aforementioned passage was passed through countless times, it ended up as: ---->* -->"African of Soud is an enormous country in the south of Africa. Adequadamente in the first place for the low end inside inside probably of the parity those, in the alliance with of the way he Batswana to the demand of Simbabwer and Mozambiquans - nevertheless in the way, limited of that one its instruction had it, of that one he is in king Zuma of the mark that is of the later part of, of that the king of the execution executes this in the first place, ingualmente included one - the food of the knowledge sure - with Namibiern, because an argument did not have here the part of the pieces of the buttock of the east in the kingdom of the ambition in matchings the throne that is sconfigguti in the types, this especific also rectifies the food - other ambassadors." * Wait, was ''{{VVVVVV}}'' originally a commentary on {{Lost}} called [[http://badtranslations.conveythis.com/2010/06/19/vew-i-just-lost-myfriends-in-the/#respond Wheat]]? * I actually did this to come up with some of the Engrish that a character speaks in a screenplay I wrote for a course. * Try it with some Star Wars quotes. ** Threepio's "We are made to suffer! It is our lot in life!" becomes "We are made to suffer. This is a lot of life!" ** "Arent' you a little short for a stormtrooper?" becomes "You may stromtrooper a little short." ** "That's no moon, it's a space station!" becomes "That month, it's a space station!" ** "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope" becomes "Obi - I Wankenobi your pavilion, he is not expected", and earlier up the line "Obi I hope you are not Wankenobi". * Hannibal of TheATeam certainly didn't plan for this: "I love it when a plan comes together" becomes "I mean a plan of love", by way of "Plan, I love it when you come together". ** "Hannibal's on the jazz" becomes "Hannibarujazu". I might name a hamster that. * Trope titles post-Translation Party: ** CrowningMomentOfFunny >> [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7668696 The current maximum pleasure]] ** HowDoIUsedTense >> [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7668712 How do I do I use the tension]] ** DieForOurShip >> [[http://www.translationparty.com/#7668719 Our boat death]] ** LoveYouAndEverybody >> [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9473574 And everybody loves you]] (AccidentalAesop?) ** CrowningMusicOfAwesome >> [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9473594 Crowning the bad music]] ** ManipulativeBastard >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473650 Total Asshole]] ** CompletelyMissingThePoint >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473656 And why you do not rhyme]] (also goes through "Makes no sense at all")

** DarkerAndEdgier >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473671 The stylish, dark]] ** HeelFaceTurn >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473717 Face Heel Turn]] ** HilarityEnsues >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473725 Las Vegas is a dark Rimasu defects.]] ** LargeHam >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473746 bigguhamu]] ** {{Nakama}} >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473762 Fellow]] (yes, it succesfully translated a [[GratuitousJapanese Japanese]] trope name). ** SealedEvilInACan >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473790 You can seal the evil that you have.]] ** SubvertedTrope >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473813 Broken Metaphors]] ** UpToEleven >> [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9473835 Up to 7Eleven]] *** These translations may change, as Translation Party is often revised. * I put in the Van Helsing line on the main page in Translation Party (or whatever it's called) and came out with: --> "This is the meat, 360 pounds .... but I, I, I, I, I, I, 08 feet 00 hours for the money I IIIIIIII" ** Also BigLippedAlligatorMoment for some reason comes out as "Shell Arigetamomento Biggui." * Bad Translator is perfect for this, using Google Translate to provide trainwrecks. "Welcome To TV Tropes!", for example, results in "The military joke!", while "There Is No Such Thing As Notability" becomes simply "The". * The infamous opening paragraph of TheEyeOfArgon becomes: "Norgolian method is focused on defeating imperial Bullen climate control dust in many countries in the first leg. Crust, dirty feet and slowly choke dress light scattering sand and screen printing. Sun Incandescense also valid from the center line. For the small rodent, won the daily occupation of his disastrous performance. Burdonsome fusion process, 3 Insutoruburaindohoru ship lasted two dust clouds." * I went for something very simple on Babelfish: "Do you understand me?" After it moved from English to Greek to French to Portuguese and back to English it became the lolcat worthy phrase: "They can take?". * Google Translate has the following translation for "boukun", which simply means "tyrant": Bo &#28014;Kun. Furthermore, it produced "Motegi Flow" from the word "ryuugi", meaning "style". "Koi" was translated as "come", awkwardly relevant to the correct translation of "desire". And when facing the Japanese word for death, "shine"? It generated.... "shine". * Courtesy of Lost in Translation, P.J. O'Rourke's famous quote "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys" turns into "To the money and the energy of there to the government it is like the donation of the young people of the keys of the whiskey and the car". * If there's ''anything'' that may be improved by recursive translation, it's ''[[FinnegansWake Finnegan's Wake]]''. The first line: "Riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of

bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs." ** Translation Party: "Howth Castle, the beach, Adam, Enbironzubeibakkuribaran vicus commodius We need to clean up the winding drive just round exit." ** Lost In Translation: "Riverrun, the EVE past and Adam' S, the version of the battery for the curve of the drawer, still obtain them from vicus of commodius that it prints to closing and around Howth." * My hovercraft eel, meat and vodka are full of comparisons of your language is suitable for rotten Wingrish zero imaginary character recognition beyond the control of all waste. In addition, Word Salad, please see the humor. -Running part of the TranslationTrainWreck page through Google Translate Japanese to English several times. * Whether the dust, please refer to the death of spam please make sure to die for his love of dance e-mail. But she - she heard the violin on the left side of my input: I passed the house of desire. -Translation Party that did not reach equilibrium. ** Then, turning to my love, I said/'The dead are dancing with the dead/The dust is whirling with the dust.'/But she--she heard the violin/And left my side, and entered in:/Love passed into the house of lust. -actual thing. For the curious, it's part of Oscar Wilde's The Harlot's House. * "My hands have fingers on them." --> "I need to submit to finger them." ...Translation Party is a perv. * Engrish instruction paper: "Yesterday not throw the fire inside the battery". * "Because there is a danger involved in a dolphin, please do not grow a hand in a fence." * "Forgiveness is not for sale, nor is the will to forget", from the song "Cry for the Moon" by [[Epica]], becomes, [[http://www.translationparty.com/#8005614 "Since the bridge is not permitted, please note. Pitt has not been sold."]]. * "Hold my breath as I wish for death... oh please God, wake me!", from "One" by [[Metallica]], gives "Death calls, you breathe ... Oh, please God!". * [[Tropers/ThePoppyBrosSr This Troper]] was bored and decided to run a sentence about the Poppy Bros. through Translation Party. [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#8081959 This is what i received.]] * [[Tropers/FuriKuri I]] got an e-mail from my Japanese teacher, and put it into Google Translate (it had kanji, which I don't know and Google has seemed to recognize before). My result was "Japanese biennial everyone hello. To Uebukyatto, "the diary Kakimashou" uploaded the sheet. To the printed journal (Diary: diary) to you, please soup on Monday. The JAA, on Monday. Ono". I'm still wondering how to soup. * This troper put in please don't feed the lions and got this [[http://translationparty.com/#8173834]] * This Troper decided to double translate the famous ZeroWing lines, and got something nearly as epic... -->'''[[TheNarrator Narrator:]]''' [[WarWasBeginning A.D. War had started with 2101.]]\\

'''[[TheCaptain Captain:]]''' [[CaptainObvious Something happens?]]?\\ '''[[TheEngineer Millwright:]]''' [[SomebodySetUpUsTheBomb Someone the bomb set up us.]]\\ '''[[MissionControl Operator:]]''' [[DoNotAdjustYourSet We obtain the signal.]]\\ '''[[TheCaptain Captain:]]''' [[BigWhat What]]'''''!'''''\\ '''[[MissionControl Operator:]]''' [[{{Engrish}} The main screen is attached.]]\\ '''[[TheCaptain Captain:]]''' [[DullSurprise It's]] '''''!!'''''\\ '''[[BigBad Cat:]]''' [[{{Hello}} The gentleman how it is]]'''''!!'''''\\ '''[[BigBad Cat:]]''' [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs Your basis belongs to us entirely, it is.]]\\ '''[[BigBad Cat:]]''' [[YouAreOnTheWayToDestruction In destruction there is a method.]]\\ '''[[TheCaptain Captain:]]''' [[{{GASP}} What which you say]]'''''!!'''''\\ '''[[BigBad CATS:]]''' [[YouHaveNoChanceToSurvive Your time which makes the chance which continues the possession is not done]].\\ '''[[BigBad CATS:]]''' [[EvilLaugh Ha ha ha ha]]....\\ '''[[MissionControl Operator:]]''' [[EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep Captain]]'''''!'''''\\ '''[[TheCaptain Captain:]]''' [[TakeOffEveryZig All ' Remove; ZIG']]'''''!!'''''\\ '''[[TheCaptain Captain:]]''' [[YouKnowWhatToDo What which it has done is known]].\\ '''[[TheCaptain Captain:]]''' [[LetsGetDangerous Portable ' ZIG']].\\ '''[[TheCaptain Captain:]]''' [[ForGreatJustice Because of large justice.]] * Tried this with Pixar films in the Bad Translator, run through it 56 times: ** ''Toy Story'' becomes ''Game.'' ** ''A Bug's Life'' becomes ''Violence'' ** ''Toy Story 2'' becomes ''"Toy Story 2'' (so... the same, except for the quote mark at the beginning) ** ''Monsters, Inc.'' becomes ''Cow'' ** ''Finding Nemo'' becomes ''Go to school.'' (oddly appropriate, actually) ** ''The Incredibles'' becomes ''Regular'' (also oddly appropriate) ** ''Cars'' becomes ''Engineer'' ** ''WALL-E'' becomes ''Good'' ** ''Up'' becomes ''The'' (this one actually stopped after the Japanese translation, don't know why) ** ''Toy Story 3'' becomes ''Equal 3.'' * When you type in "Silly translation party; you're supposed to be fun!" [[http://www.translationparty.com/#8418540 this]] is what you get. My favorite result is "Translator is stupid, you must be fun!" * [[Tropers/SabresEdge This troper]] decided to plug in a little bit of poetry, just to see [[HilarityEnsues how well it goes]]. ** From his favorite poem, ''September 1, 1939'' by W. H. Auden: "[[http://www.poemdujour.com/Sept1.1939.html The unmentionable odor of death offends the September night]]" turns into

"[[http://translationparty.com/#8455036 In addition, in September 2006, he died of injuries and unmentionable odor.]]" Waaaiit... ** From Matthew Arnold's ''Dover Beach'': "And we are here as on a darkling plain / Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight / Where ignorant armies clash by night" [[http://translationparty.com/#8455147 turns into]] "In this study, struggle and flight, he swept what is reminiscent of a plane crash in the dark night of ignorance and confusion." Plane crash, eh? [[TranslationTrainWreck Strangely appropriate.]] ** Just to completely screw with the translator with a bit of nonsense verse, from LewisCarroll's ''Jabberwocky'': "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!" is delightfully translated as "[[http://translationparty.com/#8455259 The Jabberwocky, my son, please note! To do this]], [[EvenTheSubtitlerIsStumped pull the nails Gnathostoma is me?]] ** [[TheStinger And lastly]], for a ''true'' TranslationTrainWreck, here are the first four lines of the first stanza of ''[[RussianReading Eugene Onegin]]'', translated from Russian to English with Google Translate, and thence run on Translation Party. In other words: [[UpToEleven Russian to English to Japanese]]. *** "&#1052;&#1086;&#1081; &#1076;&#1103;&#1076;&#1103; &#1089;&#1072;&#1084;&#1099;&#1093; &#1095;&#1077;&#1089;&#1090;&#1085;&#1099;&#1093; &#1087;&#1088;&#1072;&#1074;&#1080;&#1083;, / &#1050;&#1086;&#1075;&#1076;&#1072; &#1085;&#1077; &#1074; &#1096;&#1091;&#1090;&#1082;&#1091; &#1079;&#1072;&#1085;&#1077;&#1084;&#1086;&#1075;, / &#1054;&#1085; &#1091;&#1074;&#1072;&#1078;&#1072;&#1090;&#1100; &#1089;&#1077;&#1073;&#1103; &#1079;&#1072;&#1089;&#1090;&#1072;&#1074;&#1080;&#1083; / &#1048; &#1083;&#1091;&#1095;&#1096;&#1077; &#1074;&#1099;&#1076;&#1091;&#1084;&#1072;&#1090;&#1100; &#1085;&#1077; &#1084;&#1086;&#1075;" goes to "My uncle is the most fair rules / When it is not a joke was sick, / He was forced to respect themselves / And better could not invent" goes to "[[CrowningMomentOfFunny Otherwise, instead, the uncle dirty joke, these rules, shall respect those who are turned off.]]" * I ran through the title ''Stage Fright on a Summer Night by Mary Pope Osborne'' on Translation Party, and I got this: http://www.translationparty.com/#8531104 * http://translationparty.com/tp/#8572350 Truly peculiar... (Is the answer Yes, No or maybe? The answer is glad to know you please me.) ** http://translationparty.com/tp/#8572336 Soy beverage conspiracy... ** http://translationparty.com/tp/#8572383 is worth reading every single line. * An interesting case- this troper's classmate wrote the kanji for "bridge" instead of "chopsticks" (both words are said "hashi"), and so spent several sentences talking about "eating his lunch with bridge", then turned around and wrote some sentences about using a pair of chopsticks to cross a river. He managed to confuse and amuse our Japanese teacher. * This troper put "I believe I can fly" through Funny Translator. It

became "My life is over". Which actually makes somewhat sense. ** Also: "I tried to see things from your point of view. Sadly, I couldn't get my head that far up my ass." ...30 translations later we get: "I tried to change the context of the problem. Sorry, you can visit my ass." * "He dive like a crazy beef" -> "BSE and BA are." ** "Sneak around and don't get caught" -> "Sneak has been around for any involvement." ** "Unleash the horses!" -> "Loose horse!" ** "They consider baskets to be fertility gods." -> "They are considered to be the basketball god of fertility." ** "Fucking wall babies" -> "Case" ** "A snack is hugging the phone. There's nothing we can do about that." -> "Call in the morning with a kiss. What to do." ** "Why is this tin can full of light bulbs?" -> "Onion soup." ** "There is only one truth. You just have to find it." -> "Czech Republic on Saturday, please correct." ** "Hooray, rice. Butterless, saltless white rice." -> "Frame, the United States. Butterless, dry white rice." * Some more examples from Translation Party: ** [[JaneAusten Austen's]] famous opening [[PrideAndPrejudice "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife"]] reaches equilibrium when it becomes "This is, in this case, you may need to know the full truth of a universal fund for the wife of the owner of your". *** Now, it's "If it is his wife, the truth is the bearer of luck, it must be universally recognized". *** "This window is something in the light of the departure!" Shakespeare's version--something about breaking through yonder window-sounds a bit more memorable. ** "No one knows anything, but Socrates, knowing that he knows nothing, knows more than anyone!" Becomes "If you're using, people he knows that you know better than Socrates?" - Profound! ** "Houston, we've had a problem here" -> "Houston IS a problem here." ** [[{{Futurama}} "Bite my shiny metal ass."]] -> "It bites my metal, of which it shines to the Assoc." *** Newest version is now a reversal: Ass, bite my shiny metal. ** The first line of the Gettysburg Address starts out as "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." It becomes, "Continental Airlines, 21 years ago, 1,1 - 7 days in Korea, the men of these two new links with two scores in the free state proposal to create a single common ancestor is one." *** Of course, it isn't always consistent. A later attempt brought "Seven years ago our ancestors, the concept of freedom is 84, is dedicated to the proposition of creating a new state of all the people that are mentioned in this continent." Meanwhile, inputting the first output (the one about Continental Airlines) resulted in "Continental Airlines - Turn South Korea, Jin, a single common ancestor, 1,1 07, these two functions, a new link, the two proposals, the status before

the age of 21 free picture pit pit The." Exactly like that, with the final word being, not even "the", but "''The''". *** If you leave out the commas it becomes "People of our ancestors in 2007, the release of all countries of the continent, one of four items 1, Google is preparing me to please your needs and new proposals." *** I get "The goal is to explain the concept of a proposed new state, before all four of the continent that is dedicated to our ancestors in 1995, is free. Verify that." with commas, "Propositions and all seven continents, our ancestors are drawn to the idea of a new country, many people are there for eight years is free." without. ** Rickrolling it results in lack of Equilibrium. ** Typing 'Who watches the watchmen' eventually comes out as 'Be careful!'. Very wise words. ** "What the fuck is the point of this thing?" eventually comes out as "What exactly?". ** The first sentence of Twilight: "I'd never given much thought to how I would die--though I'd had reason enough in the last few months-but even if I had, I would not have imagined it like this. *** Comes out: [[MindScrew "Many ways I die--I was a few months--I have to imagine it."]] ** [[{{Discworld}} "The hedgehog can never be buggered at all"]] becomes "You do not have a hedgehog". Which is probably just as well. ** The phrase "I don't want to do my homework!" (exclamation mark required) becomes [[CrowningMomentOfFunny "I do not need to do my homework!"]] ** Typing in "The plane is going to crash into my loved ones!" results with "I love to crash the plane finally!" ** The ''Jack and Jill' nursery rhyme becomes this: "Jakkujiru Jill, according to his crown on the hill, Jack broke into a bucket of water". ** "TV Tropes" becomes "TV stand". ** "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." becomes "After the pavilion, the pursuit of happiness in your life, it is a sacred right of all true creative thinking will be revealed as a guide, is that you can use to maintain some cases." ** Oddly, without the commas, it becomes "We have been retained to identify all the freedom of an honest living out of luck trying to offer a wealth of legal rights, you really have". Um, well, 'rights' stayed in there... ** When given the preamble for the Constitution, after translating it into Japanese and back again twenty-five times, it gives up, saying, 'It is doubtful this phrase will ever reach equilibrium.' ** "To be or not to be, that is the question." becomes "There is no other way, please contact us" *** Now, it is "This is not a problem." Translation Party doesn't care much for Shakespeare. Or philosophy, it seems. ** "To thine own self be true" becomes "I have a real one for you." ** [[Film/TheLastAirbender This time we show the fire nation that we believe in our beliefs as much as they believe in theirs]] becomes "They are our faith and belief, I am grateful for your love please

please for the information". Makes slightly more sense than the original line. ** "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood" becomes "Why Chakkuuddouddo". Makes sense. *** and the ANSWER to that famous rhetorical question, "A Woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck COULD chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood!" becomes "Woodchuck, chuck, wood and I, I can see I do next?" ** "Boo." becomes "Boo's." ** "The WheelOfTime turns and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend, legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again." became "Slowly, however, the wheels of memory and myth, it is passed from the myth of childbearing age took a long time, it is important to remember that the legend can be maintained." ** "The wise man knows that he knows nothing" becomes "The wise man knows he knows" ** "You ask me why I'm weary, why I can't speak to you" becomes "Since I can not tell you, please tell me why I'm tired..." * [[BretheWriter This Troper]] put the preamble to the United States Constitution through Translation Party. [[http://translationparty.com/#8740294 It gave up.]] * Quite a while back, there was a massive nation-wide blackout. At school the next day, our Chinese teacher had the class write an account of their experience. She was amused (and secretly, sadistically gleeful) to report that most of us had consulted the English-Chinese dictionary but had written "flaming torch" instead of "flashlight", and she promptly made us write an essay about this mixup in words (she was like that). To add insult to injury, the 2004 Athens Olympics were in progress at the time. * I was posting some captioned funnies on a forum thread, when one poster said that he liked them because they were "SH*TTY BOOBS". He edited the post and said he was using an online translator, but was still banned from the forum for a while. Gotta say though "SH*TTY BOOBS" is an awesome insult. * I ran the original description of [[ParappaTheRapper Parappa]] through Google Translate and got back this: Trumpet performance Good performance is a big rap cool trumpet. Pure wrapper with wrapping're pretending to sing anything. In love with Sunny Funny, I always think to grab the heart of Sunny Funny &#12540; have been strong hero. But, stick with the dread of the effort. In Terebigemumania, new information is very strong games. PJ is a great best friend. ** http://www.translationparty.com/#9037970 There's a ceremony now...? ** http://www.translationparty.com/#9037963 Austria is okay with vital region seizing? ** http://www.translationparty.com/#9074074 Edgeworth, are you alright...? I decided to play around with some Let's Play screencap lines and got

these responses: Jackson lee demonstrators just do it every weekend> http://www.translationparty.com/#9145813 Senate majority of malibu> http://www.translationparty.com/#9145843 Finite elements in a language that we have our bus> http://www.translationparty.com/#9145853 Strange villagers initiates air force on earth> http://www.translationparty.com/#9145859 Buchanan's brad and he has a stake in the air> http://www.translationparty.com/#9145867 Reissued on our offer for supermarket religious serves> http://www.translationparty.com/#9145874 * [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9157759 Fun.]] I started with: --> "H-Hey! Were you even listening to me!?! I suppose the hands ticking away at the time are slowly chipping away, corroding, corrupting, till there's nothing left but just a pile of radioactive dust...It's a rather fitting fate, is it not?" ** And finished with: -->"H - hey! I heard! ! If you're using all the time, the boat is corrosive, toxic, I mean to reduce the influence of the mountain, I have second thoughts ... do you have? Know it yet? Radioactive dust, or look like?" ** Still not sure where the boat and mountain came from. * This Troper has plenty: ** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9181143 ** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9181365 misspelled the last one]] ** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9181166 Ok...]] ** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9181176 really throws it off.]] ** [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9181179

Really? Forced?]] After I realised I Yangapotcharidesu? Incorrect punctuation Wouldn't please me!]]

* The famous opening sentence of George Orwell's 1984 becomes "In April this year, three clocks, please refer to the light you need to beat the cold." * The Dude just put "We have no budget, no script, and a two person crew. Let's make a movie." through TP and got the following: "Two crew members, run the script and my budget. It's like making movies." Nyuknyuknyuk. * "I'm gonna kill the dog next door. Ain't gonna bark anymore, because today is judgement day, and that little runt has got to pay. No more turds on my lawn, that stupid mutt will soon be gone. Gonna kill-killkill-kill-kill-kill-kill that dog." ...50 translations later we get: "My dog &#8203;&#8203;killed a family. Even now, generally lower wages. When a dog is bad in this area. Autumn kill dogs to kill death: Jump."

* I started with this (using Translation Party), something from Folding Story: "The "pigs" burned by the pig's fat and all documents burned on a trash can at the alley...That's how the secret on how to have safe sex with an alien went on being a secret." and got: "All documents are in the city of pork fat, "pork" ... foreign policy national security as a cover for all of that, under the facts Then, Rino so dirty secret is that I have written". No equilibrium found. * This Troper tried "in the 41st millenium there is only the laughter of thirsting gods" and got "God's wish, just laugh at the Millennium 14" ** Next i tried "i want to shoot the police lol" and got the truly hilarious "the police shot me lol" * It might not be there anymore, but there used to be a link to some Japanese fan art from the DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything entry the page for ''ResidentEvil5''. I let Google Chrome translate the page containing the fan art. The results were... interesting, yet scary, definitely literal. Let's just say that if Chris and Jill's partnership ever evolved into such literal terms, the fanbase would ''[[AndTheFandomRejoiced explode]]''. * [[http://translationparty.com/tp/#9389868 THIS.]] This troper found this humorous. Just wait until it gives up. [[FlatWhat I was speechless...]] * [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9407109 Shepherd's speech]] from Modern Warfare 2("Five years ago, I lost 30,000 men in the blink of an eye. And the world just fuckin' watched.") is turned into: --> Five years ago, I lost thirty thousand immediately. Please note the world of shit. * I threw a passage from fanfiction into Bad Translator. It went from: "Itachi barely recalled it anymore, long buried beneath other things in his mind. He knew that if he had simply run away, another ANBU captain would have been given the job, and hunter-nin would be sent after him, and more people would have died." To: "Remember, editors, a long time. I know she's just tired, and some other important members of the fishing masterpiece, and Lenin, and many people." I...am not sure what got lost in there. ** After the maximum number of iterations I got: "Members, remember to check the number of John, however, fishing and other leaders, and I know you're tired." * [[http://www.translationparty.com/#9435488 I didn't know waffles were a type of cheese.]] ** [[BlessedAreTheCheesemakers Young people of color like cheese]]? * ''Portal'' translation party anyone?! After fooling around with Translation Party for a bit, I decided to put in some lines from ''Portal'', starting with some Sentry Turret lines. It was all pretty tame at first... "Are you still there?" reached instant equilibrium, "Who's there?" became "Who is there?"... Then I entered, "Sentry mode activated", and ultimately got "Please refer to the activation mode." It all went downhill from there: ** "Welcome to the Aperture Science Computer-aided Enrichment Center" becomes "Welcome to the opening of the concentration of computer-based science center". ** "Because I'm a potato!" = "I have a potato for?"

** "Your specimen has been processed" became "Our sample is processed in" ** "The Aperture Science High-energy Pellet seen to the left of the chamber can and has caused permanent disabilities such as vaporization" > "Later, as a science, can lead to the evaporation chamber to the left of the opening of the permanent disability of the high-energy pellets, you can see you just for you for you in other ways." ** The best one, because of the sheer irony: "You will be baked, and then there will be cake" > [[TheCakeIsALie "And now your baked cake"]] ** "If you become lightheaded from thirst, feel free to pass out" > "Freedom from thirst, or output, or pass a comb" (What??) ** "I figured out what that thing you just incinerated did" would not reach equilibrium. It started coming up with a bunch of "you"s and "your"s and even had some untranslated Japanese in some of the "back into English" lines. Weird. Final line was "I had figured out for you so that you frequently do you and your." ** "This isn't safe for you" becomes "It is safe for you". Hmm. ** Appropriately (and ominously), [[NiceJobBreakingItHero "Nice job breaking it, hero"]] becomes "Nice work, it will destroy the hero". * This Troper entered the lyrics of {{Coldplay}}'s song "Viva La Vida" into Translation Party, verse by verse. [[hottip:Here's what I got:: When given in the morning, I have a control that owns the word you were using it, sleep alone at sea/Audience while listening to music, my clients, my face &#20542;&#20170; old king died? King, "the enemy's eyes to roll back the feeling of life in return for allowing the death of your friend./Upstream wall, a pillar of sand, has become a pillar of salt had to be close to me, it was found to be important/I have a sword, and I do not know - my song Jerusalem area Friebel, Missionary of the mirror, the other foreigners in order to protect the Roman cavalry and the choirs./It is not honest and I can not explain in words, and again I was for some reason, did not rule the world for it./How wild is the window shutter of the poor, I can not believe you can blow up the door to the sound of your drum/Waiting for a string of silver plate and innovative puppet king and loneliness in your head Oh my!/I have a sword, and I do not know - my song Jerusalem area Friebel, Missionary of the mirror, the other foreigners in order to protect the Roman cavalry and the choirs./If I have several reasons to explain the rules that exist in this world, honest words of St. Peter, I can not know your name./I have a sword, and I do not know - my song Jerusalem area Friebel, Missionary of the mirror, the other foreigners in order to protect the Roman cavalry and the choirs./If I have several reasons to explain the rules that exist in this world, honest words of St. Peter, I can not know your name.]] Connection back to [[TranslationTrainWreck The Wreck Of The Train Of Transfer]] here. <<|TroperTales|>>

TransparentCloset * I have a friend who puts up a facade of this in order to become a MemeticMolester. Niko (Not his name) will find you in the night. * A guy in This troper's school came out about two years ago. This is how that conversation went: "Guys... I'm gay." "We know!" * This closet bi trooper feels she might be either ambiguous or transparent. A conversation last week basicly ran: -->This trooper: ...So, you're coming?\\ Friend A: I would be ''honored''!\\ Friend B: What's happening?\\ A: Trooper [[SarcasmMode just invited me to her wedding!]]\\ B: Awesome. Who's the lucky man? [[DisSimile And when I say man, I kinda mean ''wo''man.]] * Once, this troper's Gay-Straight Alliance was hosting a Q&A session at their school open to anyone who wanted to learn more about LGBTQ issues. This kid in the audience stood up and proceeded to inform us how he was a conservative Christian who thought homosexuality was disgusting....in a really, really stereotypically gay voice complete with [[CampGay hand movements]] and his hip out. Turns out, one of my gay guy friends knows him and he is a [[TheFundamentalist fundie]] [[ArmoredClosetGay ArmoredCloseted]] [[CampGay Camp Gay]] who started to come out of the closet last year...only to freak out and go scurrying back in. ** Also, this lesbian troper herself, apparently. When she came out to one her best friends, said friend responded with "I know. I've known your were gay since we were 10." I said "Well, you should have told me about it, because I was so confused for so long..." * [[@/DesertDragon This editor]] had a date with a guy who was closeted and insisted on keeping things "discreet". However, he was ''way'' more flaming than this editor ever is and even lives in Phoenix's {{Gayborhood}}. * It was such a bad idea for this (lesbian, but at the time sort of desperate) troper to date a guy that her former friend, who she was just barely on "hello" terms with, had apparently been puzzled and confused that this troper had a boyfriend. Apparently, the fact that the relationship was doomed to fail was so obvious that it had trickled down to somebody that wanted nothing to do with this troper. When this troper finally realized it too, and started dating a girl, her former friend came up and ''cheerily congratulated her.'' * This Troper has a friend who subverts this. She is, as a friend has commented, "As lesbian as you can get except for, y'know, not liking girls." Many people refuse to believe she's not in a TransparentCloset, despite her having no problems with homosexuality, her amused reactions to attempts to get her to come out, and her half amusement half exasperation when girls come on to her. And once one gets to know her she stops tripping gaydar, it's just the first impression that sets it off. ** ...there is a female version of me? Sah-weet! Probably belongs in MistakenForGay... * [[@/JuiceBoxHero This bisexual troper]] is a partial example of this, as most of her peers and friends believed her to be a lesbian and her father half-expected her to be of alternative sexuality. The

only one who was even remotely surprised was her mother, who comes from a very conservative Filipino family. As soon as I sat down and talked to each and every one of them, they knew ALREADY what I was going to say. So much of my coming out was to myself, as I had believed myself to be heterosexual until [[spoiler: masturbating to a picture of Audrey Hepburn and salivating at the exposed thighs of a classmate wearing a very short skirt. Not at the same time though]]. I also have a crush on Stanislav Ianevski and am a sucker for hairy chests. * This troper's drama club had Kenneth, who was about 6'6, wore very tight clothes, spoke with a high-pitched lisp, and was allowed to watch an extremely well-endowed girl while she stripped to put on her bikini top (he was holding a towel to cover her from the rest of the people at the party). Yet some people, this troper included, believed him to be straight after they learned he had a girlfriend. Finally, he had to admit that everyone was starting to have their doubts, and came out, leading everyone to exasperatedly exclaim how obvious it was. ** On a related note, a friend of this troper's, David, was also extremely obviously gay, with the high-pitched lisp, tight jeans, flamboyant movements and actions (Including screaming "BUG! BUG! BUG!" and dancing on his tiptoes when he saw a bug in a drawer he opened), and jokes about his gayness. He mentioned how he finally came out to Kenneth, and one of the techies said "When you come out to Kenneth, you come out to everyone." This troper dryly remarked how we all knew it anyway. * Apparently, my closet wore pretty thin over the years, though I'm bi, not lesbian. I'm still in the closet by omission, mostly due to the fact I'm in a Catholic school. If someone asked me, I won't lie, but for now, I'm keeping it to myself and other internet people. * [[@/AXavierB This troper]] believes his closet is extremely transparent; being a seventeen-year-old boy who's never even expressed interest in girls and actually laughs when people suggest he get a girlfriend. Yet his family still doesn't get it. [[FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends Denial's not just]] [[strike:[[FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends another state in the union]]]] [[FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends a river in Egypt]]. ** This troper is exactly the same in behavior due to - is there a trope for "doesn't feel like bothering withseeking romance?" - and wonders how many people assume his lack of obsession with sexing up women ''must'' mean the ''presence'' of such a sentiment toward men. *** {{Asexuality}}? *** [[AllMenArePerverts This]] is why people make that assumption. * This troper has two friends who everyone "knows" are gay, but are still in the closet. The more flamboyant of the two has come out to this troper and a few other very close friends. The other (who admittedly ''might'' be bi rather than gay) has engaged in [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean certain activities]] with this troper, has attempted to do so with the first friend, and is rumored to have felt up other guys in their sleep, but still says that he is completely straight. * This troper is, except for a few quirks, StraightGay, and usually doesn't talk about it. What makes his closet practically invisible is

the rainbow band that's hanging out of his pocket most of the time, although not everyone knows what that means in this area. He's positive that his family knows, although they seem to be oblivious to this fact. They frequently try to provoke a coming out, e.g. by snickeringly suggesting he should get a girlfriend, which he is getting increasingly pissy about. So basically everybody knows about it, but nobody openly talks about it. By now it's practically nothing more than a psychological game: Who teases the other party into bringing up the topic first? * This lesbian troper (who's closet isn't invisible), once had a friend of hers come out to her. She's ButchLesbian and expected me to think she was joking. ** Are you sure your closet's visible? * This Troper's mother. DoesNotLikeMen, doesn't like sex, has suspicious tastes in guys (she only likes them if they're really feminine), and has ogled other women's chests on numerous occasions. All of her kids ''swear'' up and down she's at least bi- as does ''her own mother'' (aka This Troper's maternal grandma). [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday She gets]] [[[BerserkButton really pissed off]] whenever it's pointed out- probably because she thinks that [[CriticalResearchFailure if she falls in love with another woman, she has to get a sex change]]. Which, incidentally, does not fare well for this StraightGay [[{{Transsexual}} FtM]] troper... ** Ouch... My mom fits the latter, "...if you like girls, what is the big deal about staying a guy?" ** It also works for the [[Tropers/SirPsychoSexy aforementioned troper himself]]. Apparently, even if he's [[TheMasquerade introduced to someone as a female]], most people (save his family who's in denial) can see his [[{{Transsexual}} male gender identity]] '''FROM SPACE'''. Although his [[StraightGay love for men]]...[[SubvertedTrope not so much]]. * Until this summer, [[@/{{Turtleducks}} this troper's]] CampGay friend said he was ''straight''. He then came out before school started, to no one's surprise-- unless you count our surprise that he ''wasn't already out yet'' (our group is the school's [=GSA=], pretty much.) As well, said troper has a female friend who constantly acted like she was in love with [[{{Bifauxnen}} another female friend]] (who is at least bi now) who everyone said would hook up with ''another'' female friend who was the above bifauxnen's [[HeterosexualLifePartners heterosexual life partner]]. ''Yeah''. * Since TVTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary, this troper refers to a certain classmate of his as "Transparent Closet". Not in front of him, obviously (although he's a huge DeadpanSnarker, so possibly wouldn't mind). * There is this one guy at [[@/LockonLockon This Troper's]] school who is so extraordinarily camp, everyone thinks/knows he's gay, even my gay friend knows he's gay, he gets offended if someone calls him gay, really either he doesn't know or is in a strong case of denial. * Yeah, my mum's really ''really'' totally straight. It doesn't mean anything that she lived alone in the woods with her friend for six years and later made her [[HasTwoMommies my godmother]], that she's

never been able to hold a relationship with a man for more than a few years yet has female friendships going back almost half a century, that she and her female coworker go on camping trips and ''to TeganAndSara concerts'' together, or that she explicitly thinks that Vanessa from ''{{Madlax}}'' is [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean 'nice']]. Sure, mum, you're totally straight. I believe you. Really. (To be fair, she may be so repressed that she doesn't even realise it herself, in which case it being so obvious to other people means that she's ''just. That. Gay.'') * I knew a guy back in high school who was a couple of years older than me; we were both in the school play. He was playing a CampGay character and basically only had to play himself -- he had all the stereotypical mannerisms, voice, etc. Most of the cast simply assumed he was gay and we befriended him regardless, but when the subject came up he vehemently denied it -- according to him, he was admittedly effeminate but straight. And the thing is, we took him at his word because we didn't want to stereotype him and in any case he had no apparent reason to lie. Anyway, some three years later, guess who I ran into in a gay club? * My short-haired, flannel-wearing roommate mentioned being president of a Gay Straight Alliance and unpacked her rainbow mug before telling me she was bi. [[SarcasmMode Oh, I was]] ''[[SarcasmMode so]]'' [[SarcasmMode surprised]]! ** If that's how specific she was, it's quite possible (nay, likely) that she meant "not gay, just bi" or "bi, not just gay" (depending on your point of view) rather than "BiTheWay, I'm not entirely what you might call 'heterosexual'". * This troper has a Bishonen friend who is incredibly camp and spent a whole year hitting on me (also male) in front of our whole circle of friends. We have been convinced he's not entirely straight ever since, but he recenty got a girlfriend and started acting homophobic. Jokes about how he and I are fuckbuddies are still common, and no-one will be surprised if he comes out. However, it now seems like he's telling the truth, and really is straight. * Apparently this Bi troper's closet is not as opaque as previously believed. Helpful note: While it's still better than rejection or threats to burn the heretic, saying, "Well, DUH!" is also not a very supportive response when someone comes out to you. * One of this troper's ex-friends was very adamantly convinced I'm gay whenever we argued about my sexuality. His [[BatDeduction line of logic]] was based entirely on completely ridiculous reasons, like the fact that I happen to own a mechanical pocket watch or the fact that I'm an American who drinks tea like an Englishman on a regular basis instead of drinking sweet tea -- "Never mind that he's not CampGay in any sense of the phrase, I'll use 'clues' I vaguely think will prove my point in an effort to out this guy" is what he was clearly thinking. I got so fed up with his thinly-veiled (read: outright stated) insinuations of my sexuality that I gave up and told him I'm gay just to appease him and have since never tried to hide my sexuality from him. [[spoiler: He didn't just miss his target blindfolded; he shot in the completely wrong direction, painted a target where he thought the arrow landed, and was ''still'' off the

mark by several yards. And haughtily accepted his "victory" when I gave up out of sheer annoyance.]] * My brother's ex girlfriend: she has as many lesbian stereotypes as I could imagine (agressive behavior, likes sports, dresses very ungirly, she does not like to be touched by men and on and on...) but I didn't suspect anything because (and starting with my mother) I'm very used to see women that act "manly" but are not necesarly lesbians, and while there was a couple of times when her behavior seemed odd (she was good finding the weirdest excuses to NOT kiss my brother) I asumed that it was just the way she is (And I can't judge her anyway: I'm straight as an arrow but I like romantic stories, stuffed animals and the musical theather...yeah). Unfortunely, my brother is a hopeless romantic (even more that I am), and her heart was broken (even considering suicide...[[SincerityMode no kidding here]]) any suggestions? * [[@/{{Drowzee64}} This Troper]]'s mother saw right through me and eventually told me that she knew I was gay. * This troper was in a semi-transparent closet: he was happy to join in conversations about which men he found attractive, and had kissed a few of his male friends (as a greeting, which isn't teh local custom), but insisted he was straight (he's actually bi) ** One of his friends enjoys watching meatspin, and ogles men's crotches, but he insists he's straight. Since he is known to pick up a large number of young ladies for casual flings (usually little more than one-night-stands), we assume he is bi. ** Several of his female friends are or were in a glass fronted cocktail cabinet: they wouldn't do anything in public with any other girl until they were holding a drink. Occasionally one would be caught out, because, for example, they had forgotten to even open their first drink of the night, but on the whole everyone pretended to believe them. * This StraightGay troper has lived happily in one for years, managed by a wonderful combination of chastity and distractions (not what you're thinking of, by the way). Basically 90% of his friends, family, and even a few close aquantices were pretty sure he was at least bi, while he allows himself to think about the issue in ambiguous terms while attempting (half-heartedly) to date young women. Recently he's forced himself to confront the issue, it isn't becoming any easier. He's considering "coming out" if only to be able to talk about it without using euphemisms or innuendo. * This Troper's friends always knew she had some attraction to girls as well as guys. Friends used to tell her back in high school that she was bisexual but she jus doesnt know it. Her cousin introduced her to ecchi and hentai back in 2004 and she isnt able to watch anything that isnt ecchi or hentai ever since. Then she joined a game forum and her transparent closet wore really thin as she displayed her love for anything {{Ikkitousen}} especially Kanu Unchou and even has a folder dedicated to her. She went as far as telling people she only watches {{Ikkitousen}} for the story which no body believed. Finally after heavy denial and homoerotic dreams, one of her friends pretty much told her that she was in fact bisexual but in heavy denial due to her parents being homophobic Jamaicans.

* This Troper was living as male at eighteen ... and sleeping exclusively with lesbians, most of whom called me "one of the girls." Crossdressed for the first time at 20 and caused doubletakes from friends who thought I was a female double for myself, because I was so comfortable. Finally came out as trans, and all of my trans friends said "what the hell took you so long?" Went for hormone treatments, and preliminary testing uncovered first that I had weird hormone levels and then that I was a cryptic hermaphrodite. At this point my intersex friends said, "yeah, no shit, we guessed that already". * This Troper knows a young boy in junior high. He wears his hair in spikes, colorful shirts, rainbow suspenders, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and pants with sandels.]] He will venomsly deny being gay, even though he has a lisp and a limp wrist. Justified that if he came out, his father would kill him. No, ''[[NightmareFuel literaly]]'' kill him. * A guy in this troper's year does... a lot of dancing, and tends to flick his wrists and is generaly flamboyant. He is, however, ridicuously opposed to the idea of being gay. No-one is fooled. * Apparently, this troper. So far everyone this troper's admitted her bisexuality too, no one's been surprised. To quote some of the reactions while telling them/trying to tell them: "Oh, I know that already", "I KNEW IT", "meh" and in the middle of implying it "Are you trying to tell me you're bi?" * [[@/RobinZimm I]] once heard a story about a man whose [[{{Troll}} friend]] posted "I'm gay" as his a status message on {{Facebook}} ... and who immediately received a huge outpouring of messages offering congratulations, support, and understanding for coming out. Whether the man actually ''was'' gay was unknown. * [[@/MayaTH This troper.]] All of my friends think I am a lesbian when they first meet me. Even online friends. It's so prevalent that I often get labelled as 'the lesbian' on forums I frequent, and comments about me being into girls are very common among my friends. Whenever I do come out as [[BiTheWay bisexual]], they're always more surprised that I'm actually interested in boys as well as girls. Even my brother, who I hardly even speak to anymore because we don't get along, seems to think I'm gay, if his asking me to go to a strip club with him was any indication. * I recently became more comfortable with coming out and mentioned "officially" that I am gay. --> '''My Friends''': No surprises there. --> '''My ''mother''''': Would have thought you the more bisexual type. * * This troper's class mate has a picture of a half naked man on his "What I am" poster, yet makes anti homosexual statements.. It is actually quite inferiating. In defence he did come out as such, and nobody reacted at all. THEN the homo bashing came out. * [[@/BlakeDiamond This troper]]. My closest friend (we've known each other since ''before pre-school'', for God's sake!) apparently knew this whole time I was bi and yet continued to go along with my belief that I was not only straight, but homophobic. (I later found out I wasnt ''homo''phobic, but ''metro''phobic. *shudders*) Even my middle school+ friends werent suprised when I came out to them:

--> '''Friend 1''': [[SarcasmMode Wow. What a shocker.]] --> '''Friend 2''': [[IKnewIt I fucking knew it.]] --> '''Friend 3''': [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday Just don't hit on me, okay?]] [[CasanovaWannabe I've got a reputation to keep up.]] --> '''Friends 1 and 2, and Me''': ''WHAT REPUTATION?!?'' * This troper was sort of like this (more StraightGay, really - I was perfectly happy with being gay, I just didn't feel the need to anounce it to everyone) but one day when I was sixteen, my younger sister turns around and says, "Hey, you're gay right? Which member of Shinee do you think is cutest?" and all I could do was wryly remark, "Was it that obvious?" Of course, she's a [[TeenGenius very smart girl]]. * Subverted with This Troper. I ''thought'' I was in danger of being this because, when I came back to university for my third year, I didn't have crushes on any of the girls and had a tiny little voice that repeatedly told me that I was gay and just in denial. The fact that I'm a stereotypical hopeless romantic, [[AManIsNotAVirgin don't have any interest in sleeping around with every girl I meet]] ([[CelibateHero abstaining until marriage]]) and have quite a lot of gay friends contributed further doubts. However, when I tried to "come out" to myself it was an ''EpicFail'' because I could not get any "[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean reactions]]" when looking at men. Eventually, one of my gay friends summed my condition up as, "You're not gay [[DespairEventHorizon you're just still in shock from learning you were an]] UnluckyChildhoodFriend". I later learned that I have [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel Obsessive Compulsive Disorder]], and am now undergoing [[TrainingFromHell CBT]] to recover. * This troper came out to his grandmother, and all she said was "When you were five, you wanted to dance." This troper likes to think that he's a ''little'' more StraightGay than that, but you can't argue with results. * This pansexual troper should fall into this as I openly express my interest in both girls and guys but apparently nobody pays any attention to my sexuality beyond "You find [[FullMetalAlchemist Roy Mustang]] sexy?" Funnily enough last year I told a boy in my class that I was a lesbian because he was being homophobic. When asked by my friends if I was when it spread around I said that I wasn't. I didn't lie... People shouldn't assume things. * My uncle was married only once, and he shows little to no interest in women, but he has a tendency to befriend handsome boys half his age and spend large amounts of his income paying for their college classes, buying them presents, eating expensive dinners with them, etc. We figured something was up when we discovered that at least one of those dinners was by candlelight ([[EpicFail because he knocked a candle over and set his house on fire]].) I don't think he'll ''ever'' admit he's gay. * A possible subversion: One of this troper's D&D partners is very, ''very'' metrosexual. When I first met him, I was 99% sure that he was gay. However, as it turns out, he has a wife. She might be TheBeard, but it's enough to make me doubt my initial assumption. * When I was a senior in high school, there was one freshman in our drama troupe that was very obviously in the closet. He was very

CampGay for a supposedly straight guy, and never exhibited any interest in girls outside of friendship. I know those aren't definite indicators, but I just got a feeling from him, and told him all the time that really, it was cool if he was gay. It was theater. We didn't care. A few months later, cue the "...guys? I'm gay" followed by a chorus of duhs. * One of this troper's best friends came out senior year of high school. He was actually pretty mad that basically everyone's reaction was "I thought so." * I've actually had several cases of this, but the most obvious one was when I met friend's new boyfriend. I pretty much got that he was bisexual after the first fifteen minutes of talking to this guy. So once he came out, everybody only shrugged and said they knew except, oddly enough, his girlfriend who was honestly surprised. * This Troper was in one of these until recently... she came out during a school assembly after an upcoming LGBT event was announced. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Everyone was really supportive.]] Her closest friends have said that there were a lot of hints from early on, and even a couple of friends she met on deviantART and doesn't know in real life either pretty much knew or suspected. The [[ButchLesbian martial arts, knowledge of how to use a rifle, extreme distaste for skirts and even MORE extreme distaste for dresses, lack of much care for personal appearance, crazily short hair, generally guy-like behavior]] and ''lesbian {{Shadowrun}} character'' probably tipped everyone off. To be fair, she was hiding in the Asexuality closet, not the heterosexuality one. * [[Tropers/{{Morgie}} I]] am in one of these. It's pretty comfy, really. * [[Tropers/{{Animenutcase}} This troper]] had a friend in high school who was very CampGay, but didn't come out until around senior year, I think. He's also an accomplished martial artist. * This troper's sister once sat her down with some shocking news: one of her best high school friends had just announced he was gay! "I'm sorry, was that supposed to be surprising?" * I have a cousin who've I've known since his birth(we are basically brothers) and since day one its been pretty obvious, he played with nothing but dolls, hangs out almost exclusively with girls, his idol is Rupaul, and when he was little he asked his mom if he could be a girl(she told him they'd have to cut of his penis, his response, [[CrowningMomentOfFunny "Would it hurt?"]]). He's had girlfriends but every one of his relationships ended in disaster, and he never ever hits on girls(though I just chalked it up to him not being a pervert. Then about 5 months ago another cousin of mine came out(ironically my first cousin always accused him of being in the TransparentCloset), at the sametime my first cousin also came out... as bisexual, which is fine [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat I have nothing against bisexual]], but again he never hit on any woman but did hit on [[AllMenArePerverts every guy he thought was hot]]. Finally about two months ago he changed his status on facebook from intrested in both to just intrested in men, when I asked him about it he just said he identifies himself more as gay,though he still doesn't like labels. Wierd thing was most people in our family were happier that he's now

saying he's gay, [[UnfortunateImplications they thought he should "choose" one or the other]]. Now I'm just waiting for him to become a Drag Queen, I don't know if there's such a thing as a Transparent Transgender Closet. ---We all know and we're all cool with who you ''really'' are here, but you can go back to the TransparentCloset if it makes you feel more comfortable. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

Transsexual * This troper is FTM, and gay. This causes much confusion when it comes to his classmates, especially those who think that being an FTM means one's a lesbian and vice-versa. It's actually really frustrating, especially when people ask if I'm going out with my best friend, who is a lesbian. * This Anonymous Troper has a M-to-F as one of his teachers at his school. While she did not out herself, this troper found out because of her notacible Adam's apple, sholders wider than her hips, an unusual female height, faint mustache, square, male-ish jaw, and gender-neutral childhood stories. ** Update: now this troper is feeling bad for her. Him. Whatever. He doesn't know why, he just... does. *** Why? She has a good job, seems to be accepted by the community (parents in ''some'' school districts would burn her at the stake for daring to "corrupt" their kids), and could possibly be on her way to getting the operation if she intends to. *** She HAS had the operation. Anyways, I got over it once I told someone. As in, IGotBetter. ** Enough genetically female girls in [[{{Aryn}} This Editor's]] life (including [[HugeSchoolgirl herself to a degree]]) have one or more of these that she's learned not to assume transsexuality until proven otherwise. ** What's an "unusual female height"? Is she, perhaps, 2&#960;' tall? Or 4' tall? How is height female? *** [[YouFailBiologyForever Easy]], the average height for a woman is around 5'6 or so. Thus, any woman north of six feet is going to be noticed. Especially if she's wearing heels. *** Really? My sister's six feet tall, and she's a natural woman. Not to mention that this troper herself is (last time she checked) 5'9". *** Being tall doesn't mean you aren't a natural woman, but it ''is'' unusual for a woman to be that tall. I have a friend who's six feet tall, and she's taller than most women she meets. * I attend a [[PinkBishoujoGhetto women's college]], where there are several [=FtM=] students, but [=MtF=] students are functionally disallowed, because you have to be legally female when you're accepted or they won't let you in. Really unfair. Something should be done. Also, I know someone who, for a year, figured she was [=FtM=], but changed her mind. She's still [[{{Bifauxnen}} very butch]], though.

Sometimes, [[PronounTrouble pronouns are really tricky]]. You don't want to single people out, and it doesn't seem worth the bother when you can just skip talking about a person to others, but, seriously, pronouns, augh. ** There's a wealth of gender neutral pronouns available, just beware as they are somewhat unknown. * [[Tropers/SirPsychoSexy This troper]] is a transman. Most of his friends (and some of the other tropers!) think that, despite being born female, he is the epitome of TestosteronePoisoning / GAR. * This troper is a transwoman who likes women and for some reason it is difficult for people to understand that. It is either, "Why don't you want too keep being a guy.", or "What?". ** The reason is because people have trouble grasping the idea that transsexuality has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality. *** The reason is also due to the early explanations of homosexuals/transsexuals, which happens to originate over a hundred years ago. (same lesbian transwoman troper), though it seems to be more than that, hitting other social mores etc... ** It's the exact same for transmen too. People tend to completely dismiss transmen that just -happen- to like other men. It annoys this troper very much because nobody takes him seriously. ** It makes this troper miss the earlier, [[MiddleAges simpler times]] and makes his head hurt. ** This Troper is the same (MTF That likes women) and surprisingly hasn't been questioned about it. Also doesn't specifically act like a guy or girl is expected to act, somewhere in between. ** [[@/{{Breefolk}} This troper]] is yet another MtF lesbian and is getting really tired of seeing every transsexual in media being straight. We need a separate trope page altogether for that as a trope in its own right. ** Ditto for the above GAR [=FtM=] troper...who also happens to be StraightGay. ** This cisgender lesbian troper/trans ally agrees and is tired of getting weird looks from people when she expresses romantic interest in M-t-Fs. "So, [[CompletelyMissingThePoint you're bi, now?"]] Epic head desk. When a straight guy I know found out that my very, very pretty friend is a pre-op M-t-F, he started[[GayPanic freaking out]] and questioning his sexuality even though I explained to him that if he dated her, they would still be a "straight relationship" because she is, you know, [[CaptainObvious female.]] Some peoples minds are not ready to be broadened. * This troper is a MTF who is engaged to be married to a normal regular guy (I'm the first TS girl he ever dated and he has never even considered it before) one day I was venting to him that I was getting tired of people saying to me "oh I didn't know he was gay" whenever I talked about him, he responded with this Crowning Moment of Awesome "yeah I get that a lot too, I usually answer 'gay, straight, does it really matter anyway, for that matter is it really any of your f-ing buisiness?" ** Give your fiancee a high five from me. That is epic. * ThisTroper is non-trans but has many trans people in his life, including two exes (one trans man and one trans woman before she came

out to herself and began transitioning) and many dear friends. He ''will'' BerserkButton on you if you start in with the transphobia within earshot. ** Seconded by this current girlfriend of an awesome FtM boyfriend. ** Thirded by this cis troper with a Nakama full of the worlds most awesome trans people. * ThisTroper dated a MtF. Apparently, that makes him gay in one of his friend circles. * ThisTroper is a MtF, and a little bit worried that it's going bother her friends because they seem to like her very well as a flaming {{Pet Homosexual}}. * ThisTroper is FtM, with an androgynous mind. He's pretty feminine, and often refers to himself as a "she" (not that he likes it) since he's early transition. * This troper is a proud gender-variant female. * This troper is a transvestite and is scared to death of having to reveal it to a super-conservative family eventually, as well as likely losing her job. She wants to transition... but doesn't know how to begin. ** ThisTroper has the same fears. *** This (cisgendered, trans-ally) Troper wishes the both of you the very best of luck. Don't ever feel like you're alone, okay? * This troper has an ancient half-sister-turned brother. Unfortunately, due to personality changes as a side effect of his testosterone therapy, he has mostly dropped out of touch with the family. * This troper is a gay FtM. He's starting his transitioning at the time of writing, even living in a conservative area, thanks to the massive level of support of the handful of people in the know (and who are willing to kick ass on his behalf). * This troper currently identifies as genderqueer but is starting to question if zir's MtF or not. * [[{{Tropers/Metalitia}} I am]] a transsexual (born male) who is unable to afford the transition to female, as well as unable to secure a gender therapist in order to attempt to transition with my public insurance (thanks to a convoluted set of circumstances involving the first 2 of my 3 [[DrivenToSuicide suicide attempts]]). I also prefer women (though, [[BiTheWay being at least somewhat bi-curious]], I wouldn't mind [[{{Bishounen}} men who were pretty enough]] or pretty trans-people of either direction). Unfortunately, my not-easy-to-getalong-with-to-begin-with personality coupled with my coming out caused me to lose the last two friends I had. Right now, I'm just going through the motions day by day until I can get some kind of jolt that can either get me a relationship, money, or both. (shrug) ** You just got a place on my list of IRL Woobies. *hugs* * I'm Transsexual, but permanently closeted. I really wanna be female, but I know if I bring it up people will just think me weird for the rest of my life, and it's becoming unbearable, since I'm socially maladjusted anyway. I routinely consider suicide every day, consider outing myself, and decide to just do nothing, as I have for years. And besides whoch, I have OCD and am paranoid, so I can't even secretly transition. Sorry to gush, but I don't have a blog, due to my fear of

being discovered by friends or family. I just don't want to lose them.. ** [[TearJerker :: hug :: ]] You are not alone, nor are you weird. There are plenty of resources for trans girls in your position and I hope you get in touch with some of them. *** Ah, thanks, but I don't think my situation is that much of a TearJerker. There are worse stories out there, and I know if I ever did out myself, my family would be accepting. It's just the awkwardness I wouldn't be able to stand, plus the whole process is just frightening to me. It looks like there are few happy endings, and even in the best you have to go through pretty destructive surgery, all for changing society's view of you. And society is useless. The majority is always the stupid part of society, and by being the majority, it is society. Which is why Transsexuals are murdered and lynched daily. Logically, the whole thing doesn't make sense.. **** I'm sorry you feel alone. It is hard as hell to be marginalized and not be one of the "majority" who think it's their right to set "norms", fuck 'em, yeah, that sucks completely. There are communities on and offline that you might find valuable. There are also a lot of people tracing the beautiful T process on YouTube. A lot of good information and wise words there, from people who have gone through it. ***** TV Tropes may not be the best support network on the internet but I hope it helps to know that theres one more anonymous person who's on your side. Just telling one person can make all the difference, I've been having gender issues lately and while I'm still not sure what I am telling my best friend about it and knowing that she will always be there for me showed me that no matter what I am its ok. Slightly rambling but basically please talk to someone about it, and if you can't find friends or family there are therapists trained to help you with this or internet chat-rooms which can offer support from people who have gone through what you are. * [[{{Tropers/TheGentlemanAnachronism}} This Troper]] is a transman who is (hopefully) just about to start hormone therapy. He's often been accused of giving 'scary/bone-breaking' hugs and handshakes, is regarded as a HeroicSociopath by his friends (somewhat jokingly, though he does possess a collection of [[{{Knife Nut}} sharp pointies]]),and generally passes, yet has still had slurs shouted at him and his partner and idiots demanding that he take his shirt off or show them various parts of his anatomy. And the worst thing was, said idiots were all of about eight years old. Damn Wouldn'tHurtAChild sensibilities. (Is aware this may have gone into a rant, but just needed to vent). * This troper is non-binary trans, transmasculine but not a trans ''man''. It's becoming difficult to explain this to people without having it addressed like a "problem" that I want to get rid of or a side effect of my {{asexuality}}. I have little opportunity to transition, living in an extremely conservative household, but I'm comparatively privileged. ** This troper would have completely agreed with you there last year, but more and more he feels like he is on the line between transmasculine and transman. This troper feels like a transman without

the desire for male-male bonding and without the need for male genitalia. This troper is wanting to grow up (despite being legally an adult) to be a good man more and more. This troper is definitely transmasculine, but doesn't know if he is a man. This troper is sad and confused, but has started to take on the "transsexual" title anyway. * I guess you can call me a very sympathetic bigot. I frequently have bouts/fantasies/dreams/"woe is me, I hate myselfs" about becoming female and living a new life, looking at videos on youtube and "TG comics" when I'm under stress or feeling bad. But even though I have the liberty to leave home and do what I want I couldn't go through with it. My Christian faith prevents me from doing so (but it also prevents me from committing suicide). Getting a sex change would be a one way ticket to hell, and I realistically wouldn't be that attractive anyways (not that it would matter..would it?). Sometimes I see things at my school like "coming out day" for LGBT students and I'm tempted to go, but I'd just get into it with the people there because I "couldn't possibly understand what they go through". I'm not confrontational anyways, typically I keep my opinions and feelings to myself but that's the beauty of the internet. ** I wouldn't want to tell you what to do, but I just want to note that there are lots of Christians who are trans. The United Church of Canada recently ordained its first trans minister. Remember, "in Christ there is no male or female." ** (This is where I start ticking people off) Then they wouldn't be Christians (or rather they would have a heck of a lot of work ahead of them justifying their faith in light of the changes they made to their body). In the body of Christ we there are no differences spiritually, but there is a physical difference as we know God made human beings (male and female). To say that God 'made a mistake' and made you born in the wrong body is wrong. God is not the author of confusion. In the case of "what about intersexed people?" that still isn't the fault nor design of God (as most of the time they are male). *** Okay, I gotta interject here. Firstly, who are you to claim whether other people you don't know are "real Christians" or not? Secondly, I don't buy your logic on "That's how God made you and He doesn't make mistakes" -- would you say that correction of birth defects (e.g. syndactyly, vestigial tails, parasitic twins, etc.) is immoral as well? And thirdly, saying "most intersexed people are male" doesn't make sense: intersex by definition means they can't be totally biologically male (and merely having XY chromosomes doesn't automatically make you male either -- i.e. Swyer syndrome). **** I will agree with this here, it's a pet peeve of mine that a lot of people will flat out say that birth defects can and do occur in every part of the body EXCEPT the reproductive organs, (granted research currently points out GIS is more likely a birth defect in areas of the brain (our brain structures more closely resemble those of a female than a males (for FTMs vice versa) but it's more humane to restructure the body to match the brain than it would be to cut up the brain, but I digress) to the point though I tend to refer to.....certain parts as "the growth" ** Original poster here, As far as inter-sexuality goes Christianity

runs in circles on the issue, I'll admit (usually its ignored altogether). Some say they are meant to be eunuchs, others say they get a free pass as far as picking their gender. I guess I don't know what the answer is (eunuchs seem to be the safest bet). *** If you don't want to be a Christian than this is irrelevant, just putting this out there first. You're right, I don't have a right to assert who is or isn't a real Christian but if someone wants to where that title and still takes part in questionable behavior means the burden of proof is on them (as Christians are supposed to live an example to the world). We make excuses a lot about justifying sin when God has freed us from it Romans 6:18. And God doesn't make mistakes, as he didn't create sin Psalms 51:5, we are all born into sin and shaped in iniquity and from that we lost our perfection. It isn't God's doing. *** That still doesn't answer my second point. Given your stance on sexual reassignment surgery, would you say that any kind of corrective surgery is immoral as well? Because that's what sexual reassignment surgery is, really -- corrective surgery so that the body matches the brain. And if it isn't God's doing, then why would a sex change be going against God? Just trying to make you think. ** Original poster here, I don't think it can be compared to corrective surgery (within Christian thought). As far as gender is concerned I think we're supposed to match our mind to our body rather than vice versa. *** I've never understood the logic of saying God's against transgenderism. Sure, it may be wrong for some people, like meat eating is... after all, everything is permissible, but not everything is helpful. In my book (and I am by no means a "liberal" Christian I'm full on fundamentalist [as in going back to the fundamentals], radical, evangelical etc), it comes down to, does it hinder your relationship with God? There's not much at all to go on in the Bible itself, if you want to hold to proper exegesis (it's easy to take verses out of context...). ** Original poster here, That logic could go either way, Jesus never said anything about transgenderism but he never said anything about A LOT of things. We do have some info to go by which suggests a stance against the issue. But, so know. ** This Troper just gave up on religion because of the conflict of the moral issues, metaphysical issues, and because it didn't adequately address her life. From what she has seen, the Fundimentalist movements are really hard on their members and doesn't focus enough on the love, friendship and compassion that the tradition normally has. She recommends trusting that no one should be punished for being who they are, and believing that the forces one believes in wouldn't punish anyone who doesn't harm anyone by doing things that others have no right to. * Hey, same guy/girl? writing as wrote above - it's my turn to write my entry. I used to want to become a girl - well, I still do, to be honest... - except I don't have any interest in having a sex change... as I noted above, my religion doesn't prevent me, but... so yeah. The fact that I've kinda fallen in love with a girl (unrequited, alas) might have something to do with it...

That's not to say I wouldn't become a girl if I could suddenly transform, though, or be averse to dressing up as one... ** No offense, but to me, you just sound like the average transsexualin-denial. * [[{{Personofpeeple}} This troper]] is in a very similar situation, although I don't think God would be a dick and send trans people straight to hell. ** Reason A: Because he made them that way, or could at least see that they would "become" that way. ** Reason B: Because he's not a dick. ** Anyways, I would have initially condemned myself, but then I realized that I would be condemning others, and not emulating god. That, and, I've become a way better person than I used to be. I rationalized that, if I could make such a big change morally from what I was born like, gender shouldn't be such an issue. * This troper is a closeted teenage FTM. He's pretty feminine so he passes for a girl right now more then a boy, which is honestly no problem for him. He really doesn't care about gender much. He has an interest in crossdressing, as in female clothing, and is naturally which confuses people. * This troper is FtM and the Boisterous Bruiser/Big Guy in his Nakama. * Kind of tragic tale: I have an uncle(auntie?...) that is M-to-F, he never got an operation, but did crossdress and acted all feminine and whatnot. Anyway, eventually he got older and started cursing his lifestyle, saying he was going to hell and needed to purify himself, then promptly put himself in the closet and married a (rather homely) prostitute... That didn't last long, (three guesses as to what she did, the first two don't count) and now he is still going around, acting like the 90's never happened. ** Funny side note: until I knew what transexuals were, I thought he was gay and that was how all gay people acted.(To be fair, I was young, and family all identified him as gay, including him, so I just rolled with it). *** the majority of transsexuals go through that stage unfortunatly where we tend to hypermascculinize or in some sad cases embrace homo/trans phobic bigoted views I had my time where I did both, I thought it was a good mask so no one could ever know my true feelings but it did the exact opposite actually as everyone was blatently aware it was all just an act, luckily I never considered suicide but I did go through what I call Psycholigical Suicide(basically a spiraling ever deepening [[{{HeroicBSOD}} had I not come to terms with my GID it would not be farfetched to say I'd be currently sitting in a mental institution as a brain dead vegetable now **** [[{{NightCourt}} but I'm feeling much better now]] * I am also an M-to-F who likes women. Playing male, I don't act feminine at all. I just keep to myself and stay quiet. I shut people out of my life after high school and, in my second semester of my senior year at college, cannot name a single friend. Three suicide attempts and countless self-injuries later, I have begun the transition process after coming out to my family, who are totally not on board and want me to commit myself to an institution or find a

psychiatrist who is more liberal with anti-depressants than my current one. Far from capable of being attractive in either gender, body dysphoria is just my lot. Transition is a rough journey for all who make the attempt, but imagine doing it alone. * i am very good friends with a transman, who was born Olivia but prefers Tristan, as well as a male WholesomeCrossdresser (that is, biologically and identifies as male but likes wearing skirts) by the name of Tolys. In a more unconventional way, I myself am probably genderqueer, i would assume, in many ways I see myself as being a biologically-female crossdressing boy. That is, I think I should have been a dude that dresses as a chick. If anyone gets that. But y'know, fat chance of explaining THAT one to anyone, really. * This troper is biologically female, but is mentally ambiguous. However, ze often wishes ze was born male...but still likes boys more than girls. Ze hopes that by the time ze is old enough to get a sex change, and marry, all those silly homo/trans/whateverphobes will have realised that we are in fact living in the twenty-first century, and not the Middle Ages. * This troper fell really, really hard for her last girlfriend, a transwoman who was the most awesome activist she has ever met. She had a history of self-harm and a couple of suicide attempts, though they never got around to discussing it so it's unclear if it had anything to do with gender identity issues--if it did, they were well past when they met. ** By the way, this troper is genderqueer though she is fine with female pronouns, but believes the whole gender thing is in need of a major- overhaul that will never happen due to the gender binary being a ridiculous social construct that is nevertheless so deeply ingrained in society, culture, religion, etc that we will never, ever escape it and it makes her very, very sad. * This troper happens to be an FtM who refuses to let go of some of his... "feminine" traits; he's something of a [[TheDandy fop]] who likes wearing jewellery, especially earrings on occasion. (His style usually leans towards Goth or Punk, though, so it's not like he wears really "girly" things; stud cuffs, terry-cloth wristbands, barbed wire bracelets, [[{{Asexuality}} a black ring]], [[KingdomHearts Heartless necklace]]...) If asked for a complicated definition of his identity, he'd probably say "postgender no-ho/no-op transman with genderqueer habits." * To be honest, I don't know what the hell I am. I've wanted to be female since before I can remember, but at the same time I don't want to give up my male genitalia. And I'm already too old to begin taking hormone supplements, nevermind the fact that I don't even know what I want to be, I feel like it'd be far too awkward to make the transition this late. To complicate things even more, I only have ever felt attracted to women, meaning I'd be a half-man, half-woman, originally male, and who's attracted to women. If that's not confused, I don't know what is. ** I can't say much for being too old for hormones...but you can still be MTF and be attracted to women. * this troper is a closeted MTF transexual. I was confused at first, as there are numerous feminine things I didn't care for, and I didn't

understand my condition fully, thinking I would somehow be required to become not just female, but feminine. I understand now that becoming female doesn't mean I won't be a boyish girl, its mainly my SEX I want changed. keeping my friends would be possible, and we may become closer from it all. at this point IM just trying to come out in the most acceptable way possible, as my family is about halfway between accepting and old fashioned. * I'm a straight guy, but I feel for any oppressed group. Trans-people need love and support like all people do, and shouldn't be criticized for their differentness. * This troper is in love with a FtM that is the coolest person he's ever met. I like him like crazy, and while my feelings aren't reciprocated he doesn't mind my being in love with him. That's partly because he can tell me to spend my day off helipng him move and I'll be sincerely and incredibly grateful to him for it. * {{Asexual}}, mildly gender-confused but physically female troper. I blame it partially on the fact that I'm extremely impressionable despite being rather intelligent. Actually, I mostly consider mental gender irrelevant to me, since I tend not to view things as having genders anyway. Nor do I want to have sex with anything (not against masturbation. Sex =/= masturbation). And I've always been attracted to androgyny. Plus I've noticed a lot of cut-and-dry "x to x" with no "I don't know what I am" or "I realized I would rather not have a gender" stuff and I feel this is the most appropriate place to randomly get this notion out in the air. * [[@/AwesomeZombie22 This troper]] always wanted to be a boy from her childhood, including trying to pee like a boy once. She tries to look as masculine as possible (luckily for her, loose clothes are all she needs to like like a guy) and is early-transition, so she still refers to herself with feminine pronouns. Recently, she noticed how she tends to stop near the bathrooms to wish that she could go inside the men's room. ---I used to be on the Troper Tales page, but I transitioned into the {{Transsexual}} main article.

TrashOfTheTitans * This troper and his girlfriend only keep their apartment [[EvenEvilHasStandards marginally]] clean because he's immunosuppressed after surgery. ** In the interest of not being smothered in his sleep, he'd like to point out that she's overworked while he's just lazy. * This troper had a roommate who could hide furniture under his dirty laundry, and later a girlfriend whose apartment needed goat paths through the mess. * This troper had to spend a few days at a friend's house while his parents were on a business trip. He cleaned his room up before I got there. By the end of day two, we had completely hidden the floor under piles of clothes, papers, computer parts, Lego, and other random crap. ** His college dorm room isn't faring much better. He has a pile of

junk that prevents him from opening all but the top drawer of his dresser, and his roommate perpetually has a literal avalanche of clothes falling out of the closet. * Another troper once knew someone who claimed her incredible squalor was a result of chronic fatigue syndrome, which interestingly did not keep her from traveling, spending an entire day shopping for hobby materials, etc. Her packrat and shopaholic tendencies certainly didn't help, nor did her habit of going into screaming rages over anything being moved. The troper found trying to help this person tunnel out to be a mental-health-damaging impossibility. ** You just described my younger sister. *** Truly scary response, since the originally described individual is an only child. * This troper suspects that this is the main reason he was muscled out of his apartment by his former roommates. Oddly enough, the guy he replaced was much worse. * * look around apartment* * weep* * [[{{Atagamay}} This troper]]'s aunt, while quite clean in regards to anything that might smell or make a mess, has stacks and stacks of newspapers in her house, dating back to the 70's, amongst other junk. Her house is actually pretty fun. * [[{{Nomic}} This troper]] never leaves stuff laying on the floor, but his drawers tend to be crammed full of stuff and his desk is covered with books, videogame cases, rock samples and other miscellaneous stuff. His stepsister, on the other hand has a tendency to leave her used clothes in a large pile on the floor of her room. Sometimes the heap of clothes occupies a better portion of the room until she's made to clean it out. This troper's best friend's room is also a mess. Last time he lent him a book it got lost in his floor for a week or so and when he finally got it back, it was in a horrible condition. * This troper's friend has practically littered his bedroom with landmines. The only place you can actually sit on is the bed. Fortunately, that's where everything is. ** I'm sorry, landmines? * When this troper was about eleven, her room had attracted mice and eventually [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes a garter snake.]] ** [[NightmareFuel This troper is now feeling a strong desire to clean her room.]] * This troper never has any problem with rubbish, as such. Wrappers, leftovers, etc are all thrown away or cleaned. However, his books and papers (and there are a ''lot'' of them) have a tendency to spread, as though by osmosis, until every flat surface is covered, and his bookcase/cupboards seem just as full as before. * [[ManCalledTrue This troper]] has an excuse for the books on his floor - he's out of bookshelf space and has no room for another one. He does try to keep the garbage under control. In a related vein, the dishes only get washed when he runs out of spoons. * For a single guy, this troper's apartment is almost immaculate...except for the kitchen, which gets cleaned perhaps once every solstice and equinox. Also, I have an odd habit of whenever I clean dishes in the dishwasher, I don't empty them out once they're

done. Whenever I need a clean dish, I get it out of the dishwasher. When the dishwasher approaches empty, that's when I know I need to refill it. ** That's' just like this troper (except for the kitchen being the exception), except she knows it's time to do another load of dishes when she needs to clear room to make a meal. * When this troper had the house to himself while the rest of his family was on vacation for two weeks (someone had to watch all twelve pets and the idea of two weeks away from them all was too good to pass up) he cleaned up the entire house in 2 days, threw a 3-day LAN party which didn't trash the house either, and kept the place spotless for right up until everyone else came home. They turned it back into a pigsty within 24 hours. * [[DarkSoldier This troper]] pitched in to clean up a friend's apartment some years ago while he was visiting his dad in San Fransisco. OhMyGods the place was horrible, and we had been gaming there for months! Bags of garbage had attracted ''clouds'' of fruit flies. Somehow, he had managed to forget an ''entire pizza'' in a ''cupboard''. One of us, while cleaning up, had to [[VomitDiscretionShot excuse himself to the balcony to vomit]]. ** My own place is only slightly better, if I'd ever regularly bother to do dishes and take out the recycling. * My dorm room had, let's see...six pizza boxes, three garbage bags, books all over the place, broken plastic spoons (don't ask), and hadn't been vacuumed...as of last Friday when I started cleanup. * This troper has been yelled at by her parental units to clean up her bedroom all the time. True. it looks like a bomb hit it, and there are empty bottles of seltzer water, books, clothes and all sorts of items scattered all over the floor to the point where her family members have come to joke that Jimmy Hoffa is buried in her closet, and it'd probably be a much easier place to sleep in if she could actually clear the floor so her convector could be fixed nice and proper, and perhaps prepare to re-paint the walls and get new carpeting, but really... I rather like the mess. As it stands, I have orders pending from my mother to clean my room up over the winter break or face death. Or something just as unpleasant. * [[SciFiChica This troper]] can beat every single story on this page. Her great uncle recently had a heart attack and had to be moved to a nursing home. His house...Dear God, the mess was unholy. He had stopped using his front door years ago, because there was so much trash. There were alternating layers of trash and dead mice. His water had stopped working, so he had been urinating in bottles and defecating in bags...''and keeping them in the bathroom instead of throwing them away.'' My aunt got a terrible upper respiratory infection from some mold or something. My family went over to collect some books, and he had ''over 5000 books, with multiple copies of several.'' He had 100 ''loaded pistols'' strewn randomly throughout the house, and he smoked, and would just light up and drop the matches or the cigarette butts wherever he stood. He also kept multiple tins of Sterno and campfire materials, and lots of gunpowder and bulletsit's a miracle the place didn't blow up. The house was built in 1912, and used to be a really beautiful house, but he trashed it so badly it

will have to be torn down. We've already cleared out 2 dumpsters worth of stuff, and no end in sight. The worst part, though? When we first went to the house, my brother went in a closet that looked like it hadn't been used in years. He called out "You've got to come here!" So I went... and we found my great-uncle's PornStash, ranging from antique Playboys and Penthouses (1950s-70s) to literally hundreds of novels with names like "Orgy at Sea" to really, really horrible stuff like the Marquis De Sade. I took about a three-hour shower when I got home, and I was seriously debating boiling my hands after we moved that stuff out, and I am no prude. BrainBleach...please! This was HORRIBLE- learn from our experience, if you've got a relative displaying pack-rat tendencies, get them help IMMEDIATELY! ** This Troper wholeheartedly agrees with the first statement. ** That's called squalor and it's indeed a psychological condition that ''needs'' professional assistance. ** This troper had to clean up one of those himself, urine bottles included, thankfully not the other bags... but these were everywhere instead of just the bathroom. Fortunately it had not been quite so long and he only had the entire bottom level of the house this way. 3 rooms, all waist deep. * This troper has picked up the [[Warhammer40000 Move Through Cover]] special rule as a result of regularly having to move through his deep, deep piles of books. Reading in bed + fast reader + lazy + fan of very thick fantasy novels = ranks in Profession (mountaineer). * This troper's friend's old apartment: single bedroom, holding 3 single, adult, males. A three month old pile of dishes in the kitchen that they didn't clean [[ItCameFromTheFridge in hopes "it'll gain sentience and we can charge it rent,"]] which eventually were cleaned in straight CLR. An unseeable floor on account of bedding, clothing, and garbage. Two house cats with a litterbox that was rarely looked after. A fort of pizza boxes on the deck that attracted hordes of flies in the summer. Now that they've moved out and into bigger apartments, they keep things cleaner then before. * This troper is actually fairly normal when it comes to keeping his home clean. Sure, there's a few items laying about on the counters or the table, but it's not so bad. But glance inside his car and you'll think that a garbage truck exploded. The last time he cleaned it out, it took 3 full hours. ** Same goes for [[DaNuke Da_Nuke]], whose room is rather clean if only slightly messy at times, but whose car is always ''full'' of dirt, papers, bags and garbage. The body is always encrusted with dirt and dust. And the trunk is unusable on account of being full of empty bottles of oil and steering fluid. ** On a different note, this weekend [[DaNuke Da_Nuke]] went with his parents to deliver a bed base for his sister studying at the neighboring state. They ended up cleaning tons and tons of dishes, cleaning the kitchen range with lye, and clearing two bags of garbage lying around inside. And even worse: ''he cleaned a bag of garbage mixed with dog urine and excrement''. He left a message for his sister saying she owed him a bottle of Mot & Chandon Champagne Impriale for this. And on top of that, it is said that the previous owner had an ''even worse'' mess on account of throwing big, rowdy parties 5

times a week... * ....[[SkarmoryThePG I]] really should clean this heap of trash sometime. * Did you know that if you leave orange peel out for long enough, it can go ''past'' dried-up and easy to clean up "later" and become a mass of black, fuzzy mould? Yeah. I was living in a perpetually damp dorm room that was demolished a year later. I'm lucky I don't have allergies. (The thing that finally prompted me to clean up my act was the fruit flies. I HATE flies.) These days my room's not so bad, if you can find the right places to put your feet between the piles of clothes and books. * This troper's garage was pretty messy before he helped fix up most of it. Still, I have a lot of things in it. * This troper's dorm room, though not particularly filled with garbage, is filled with yards upon yards of wires, all criss-crossing about his room. As of this posting, the wires within his reach are: An external soundcard attatched to his laptop via USB, a long wire going from that to the subwoofer, which has wires leading to speakers all around the room, a surge protector plugged into another surge protector, with each plug filled, providing power to a laptop, TV, speaker set, numerous fans, a PS3, air compressor/airbrush, phone, PSP/DS charger, two external HDDs, a fridge, microwave, radio/iPod dock, and other things. All this in a dorm room about 8 feet by 15 feet. Needless to say, he has problems walking through the place. * [[{{Orihime}} This troper]] and her family make a deep house clean up once a week for lack of time. Naturally, once it's time to clean her share of the house. Naturally, some parts often looks like this. Specially the house's studio room where the main computer and all kind of electric stuff are. * This troper's grandmother lives in a house with my blind, diabetic aunt. The house has many bedrooms (I'm not actually sure how many, so deep is the trash) since it once housed seven kids, only a few of which are now usable. Unlike many of the examples on this list, it's not actually wanton garbage that fills the house, just lots of ''stuff'', as my grandmother is an extreme pack rat. Oh yeah, and don't eat the food. Dear God, there's enough food in that house to feed a serious number of people for a very long time if there ever is another depression, as long as they don't mind that it's at least five or six years old...and be very wary of the basement. There's a breed of mutated cricket-spider-thing that is indigenous only to my grandmother's basement. Probably it feeds on the dead rats. Did I mention that the inhabitants of this house are an ''eighty year-old woman'' and a ''blind diabetic''? When the only thing safe to consume is the beer, the kinds of games you find yourself playing at family reunions often are something like "let's get wasted, pull aged leftover dishes out of one of the refrigerators, eat them and try to guess what food they are". * The desk and table in this troper's room look a bit like that. But that's nothing compared to some of my relatives. My aunt, uncle and cousins own a three-storey house, where two rooms and the kitchen are more or less clean, but the rest of the house is just a place to store all kinds of junk that they ''might need later''.

* This troper is not that bad. Honestly. Yes, you cant see the floor because of papers strewn everywhere, but there's only one layer, and when I do clean it only takes ~10-15 minutes. I just dont get rid of it because it comes back in a week when I do. * A friend is prone to developing what he and others call a "floordrobe," where everything from clothes to textbooks to manga wind up scattered around somewhere. Surprisingly, very little actual trash ends up in the floordrobe, so it's an oddly sanitary mess. Now imagine one of those, waist-high in some places. That's what ''[[{{Nerrin}} my]]'' old bedroom in my mother's house looked like until just recently, after about eleven years of the room being lived in for no more than a couple months at a time, and used as a dumping ground for "might be useful/still wanted later" stuff. It turns out the carpet in that old room is sky blue. Who knew? * [[{{MKH90}} This troper]] is admittedly quite bad with cleaning; He likes his organized messes and isn't even near the extreme cases, so why should it bother people? * This troper can see one part of her floor: the part where the door opens. Clothes, books, boxes of tea, video games, and cans of food cover the rest. Mostly clothes. Actually, she can't see a corner of her room for all the mess... * This troper's room would look like this, but for some reason the pile never seems to actually get any bigger. WHERE DOES IT ALL GO!? * [[{{InsanityAddict}} This troper]] is bit of an organized thrash type, but the shared living room in my apartment is absolutely terrible: piles of dishes, a thrashcan that's overflowing because noone wants to take it out, towels and clothes randomly strewn over furniture, a floor that's in desperate need of a mopping...but I only ever come there to cook, so I can live with it. * This troper has to wade through beer bottles, cardboard boxes, and torn garbage bags just to do his laundry. Ironically, the house looks a hell of a lot worse than before we got a maid to clean it up. * This troper once saw a '''car''' that looked like this. Every seat except the drivers seat was completely unsittable, and I'm surprised the owner could actually drive it. I could tell some stuff was probably from TheSeventies. I can only imagine what her house was like. ** Almost sounds like ''[[@/DesertDragon my]]'' car. For example, I have a bad habit of eating fast food then tossing the bag in the backseat to get "later". But since I rarely have people in my backseat, things tend to...collect over time. * This trope appears in this troper's life as well. While outright garbage was usually disposed of in a proper manner, leaving only a relatively sanitary mess of papers, gadgets, and tchotchkes, the pile was at least a foot deep. I could literally tell how old something was by which stratum it was buried in. My room has since been cleaned up significantly, and is now only somewhat cluttered. * Back in the 1980's, one of this troper's former neighbors, known as the "Pieman", was an obsessive collector, and his house got trashed to the point of being condemned. Luckily, another neighbor came to his aid and helped him return to his family. More recently, there's another house around the corner that looks like it may be a garbage

house (overgrown front yard, carport with grimy disused vehicles and trash, etc). * This troper used to help her mother clean up foreclosed houses. It might not sound so bad until you realize that when people get foreclosed on, they usually say "screw sanitation" and completely trash the place. * My house when I was PromotedToParent for a week while my mum was in hospital. Six kids aged between 16 and 2, home alone with little interference from our dad, who wasnt living with us. We ran out of clean plates, every surface of the kitchen was covered in dirty dishes, and we only washed them when we ran out. The cushions were off the sofa (little brother pulled them off to play with, there was no floor space in the bedroom and there was toys everywhere. There was cereal on the floor and a baby bottle filled with week old milk was left on the table. The second time I ever saw a house filled with so much trash was when my friend had a WildTeenParty and every surface was filled with empty beer cans and food, the kitchen floor was sticky and there was food crushed into the carpet. * This troper's mother cleans out foreclosed houses. Worst house ever? Belonged to a dead cat lady. Nearly every room in the house was literally so full of junk that you couldn't enter them, with just little pathways from the living room couch to the kitchen. All of cats had urinated and defecated on the carpet so much that (apparently) the old lady just gave up on cleaning and put over a new carpet over it. The new carpet was just as filthy by the time she died. All of the food had expired months or years before she died, and she had apparently taped thousands of episodes of television, in addition to all the videos she bought. The cats were all gone (along with the [=DVDs=] and other valuables) by the time it was cleaned out, but they found 20 odd dead cats, which were kind of liquefied from heat and age and the weight of all the crap they were under. * [[@/SoWeAteThem I]]'ve seen a few in my time (one of which I had to regularly suppress my gag reflex to enter the kitchen of) but I myself still tend towards this: I've had to, on occasion, expunge foot-high stacks of papers and other random objects, and I'm still not very organized. At one point, we were all but convinced we had a flea problem. * My workaholic mother's apartment is this, as was her house beforehand, which got condemned; the house was a fire hazard infested with mice, the apartment's also a fire hazard and I'm suspicious it's also infested, especially with fleas from our now-dead cats (which I'm lucky they aren't in there). I was also raised in these environments, and never had been able to maintain a remotely clean space for myself until I moved out about two months ago. Tried to clean at times while I lived with my mother, but when you're the only one actually doing anything to pick up the mess and more is just made every day... * My room is a mess magnet. Every time I clean it, it's back to its usual mess within a week. The worst part is all the paper. I have a bad tendency to just toss whatever papers I don't need on the floor by the side of my bed. There is a huge pile now, and a fair portion of it has made its way all over the rest of the room. The main pile is up against the closet door and frequently pushes it open. Opening the

door causes an avalanche, and closing it is difficult. In addition to this, there is a perpetual pile of dirty clothes in the corner and the room has been known to have 8 used cups at any given time. * My middle school Home-Ec room was like this, to the point that she had ''cans of soup'' that had gone bad. None of the students actually bothered cleaning any of the dishes they used, so they were perpetually moldy with about 5 years of uncleaned grime, and I actually started playing bingo with the infestations. Cockroaches, 3 different species of ants, mice, rats, and a BIRD that lived in the air vent. Over one long-term break it had somehow managed to get inside the room and covered everything in feces which she ''ignored completely!'' I'm VERY surprised she wasn't fired before she was, and the only reason she was is because she had to get back surgery, and the long-term sub was horrified at the mess in there. I actually refused to even TOUCH anything but my chair in there, for fear of diseases. I can assure you that I will never let any living area I'm even partially responsible for get that messy. ---Back to TrashOfTheTitans, if you can find it in there. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TraumaticHaircut * This troper had her [[RapunzelHair waist length hair]] cut down to two inches long by her ex boyfriend. Yes, there were tears. Many, many tears. * Before her first semester of college, this Troper got a haircut. She was especially hoping for a good haircut, since she hadn't been publicly educated since third grade. By some freak accident, she got something in between a misshapen pixie cut and a bowl cut. As above, many tears were shed. * It happened to this troper twice. Once in 5th grade, a classmate grabbed some burs off a pathway and tangled them into my hair. I had to go to the school office and get them cut out. The second time was in 6th grade, the same classmates jumped me in the woods (where everyone usually spent recess) and cut off huge chunks of my hair. [[AdultsAreUseless None of the teacher even talked to any of the other kids about it.]]

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TricksterMentor * [[RayAyanami This troper]]'s old Twitter username got hijacked by his friend, as a lesson to not announce changing screennames on Twitter. * This Troper's dad. Seriously, all of my good jokes and most of my trivia come from him.

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Trigger * Personally, [[Tropers/AGroupie my]] worst triggers are some forms of religious/moralistic content (even if I don't believe in it and my rational, logical reaction is "what bullshit" or "this is trying to control me," it still makes me feel horrifically anxious and depressed and overwhelmed with guilt even if the depression or guilt presents in some other way (e.g. I don't ever want to (re)convert, I want to cry and think of what horrible disgusting garbage I am and how I'd be better off dead) and.... ever since I was robbed in 2009.... anything that reminds me of the robbery or of where I was at the time, or visual depictions of surprise attack with [[ScreamingWoman a helpless victim screaming]] with no one to care or help... one of which is linked on the LifetimeMovieOfTheWeek page. * Most LoveTropes are Depression Triggers (if not {{Berserk Button}}s) for this troper. Everyone keeps going on and on about this thing I couldn't find with a map and GPS. * One of my good friends was a victim of rape as a teen (she is now in her late twenties), and she does. Not. Like it when you grab her without warning or pin her. I found this out the hard way when sparring with her. Ouch...(I apologized later, of course). Actually, come to think of it, almost everyone I know has a trigger of some sort... * This troper has avoided many of the more common rape triggers where others have not, and for that I guess I should be grateful. But the physical things that get me setting the scene in my mind are on their own really innocuous, even things that without that association I find really pleasant and enjoyable. Mostly because my abusers introduced me to them, while we were still in the grooming stage of our acquaintance. I also have the dubious distinction of having a very good memory for what triggers other people, particularly close friends, and while it is nowhere near as having ''their'' associations with the subject in question it's still very unpleasant. A certain song might not call to mind something that happened to me, just one of the closest members of my {{nakama}}. * This troper definitely won't tell you what her personal trigger-ish subjects are, but I'm currently RPing a character with PTSD whose trigger is anything to do with oppression of freedom or personal rights since escaping a NoWomansLand where she was raped and tortured. [[ColdTurkeysAreEverywhere It's not working too well for her.]] * I haven't personally been the victim of trauma (or at least not anything objectively traumatic -- I have a fear of being dominated that borders on the phobic, but it isn't rooted in any kind of abuse or attack), but I still have a trigger-like reaction to descriptions of surgical mutilation for the purpose of making a person easier to control. Pulling teeth is a big one. * This troper has OCD of an injury-avoidance type - that is, he suffers brief urges to stab himself around knives or burn himself with

fire, among other things. Reading ''AgonyInPink'' almost made him bite out his own tongue. That warning on the trope page for it? He put it there. * This troper went through a rather rough time earlier this year in a suicide home/loony bin after contemplating suicide openly. ANYTHING that he remembers or reminds him about the place triggers all the worst memories, especially in situations where I feel like I'm being Mind Raped because I felt like I was being Mind Raped continuously in there. * [[Tropers/{{JET73L}} This troper]] has the usual BerserkButton-style trigger, which is cruelty to animals (and cats in particular), and NauseaFuel [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes phobias]] (one of which, spiders, started out as a NightmareFuel {{trigger}}), but a trigger in the typical sense actually includes mowing the lawn. Why? A small turtle was in the deep grass in front of the push-mower once, and the blades of the mower ripped its top shell off without killing it. A beating heart and breathing lungs were strung between the lower and upper shells, and since then i couldn't use a lawn mower without being horribly sickened by that image and the fear that it would happen again, or one of my cats would get outside and run in front of a mower I was using. * This troper has PTSD from a bullying incident that happened at a summer camp. They harassed this troper mercilessly, and enjoyed calling her a "lesbo" (although the troper saw nothing wrong with being gay, it was a bit irritating at the time). Later on, it turned out that this troper actually did have a sexual preference for girls, and now has trouble calling herself a lesbian. This troper also can't listen to Katy Perry music because they used "I Kissed A Girl And I Liked It" to set off the bullying. Nighttime is also a big trigger in itself, and when she lies in her bed she sometimes gets flashbacks (not vivid ones, but they're still terrifying). * Here's a little story having to do with the difference between legitimate trigger and BluenoseBowdlerizer mentioned on the main page. In my Social Problems class (which dealt with many topics that can, and often are, triggers) we were going to watch a documentary about how the families of soldiers in Iraq who were killed were effected by their deaths. The previous class day the professor asked if any of us had lost anyone in Iraq and said those who did didn't have to watch the film, so as to avoid this trope (the movie was enough of a {{Tearjerker}} without there being any personal connection to it). * This troper has loved and enjoyed TheRockyHorrorPictureShow for many years, but unfortunately seeing it this year, the scene in which Frank impersonates Brad and then Janet and seduces them set off triggers of an attempted rape that happened earlier this year. The pretending to be another person aspect in particular... * I was in northern Israel during the start of the 2006 Lebanon War, and I could hear the rockets falling on Israeli cities. I suffered from a mild case of PTSD afterwards, with the trigger being the sound of fireworks (the big explodey kind). My first Fourth of July afterwards (a year later) was hell, as was being at Disneyland during the big fireworks display. Since then, the mental scars have faded, but the sound of fireworks still unnerves me, especially if I can't

see them. * This troper has managed to avoid the normal rape triggers for the most part, but still has some. She will freak out if grabbed from behind, especially by the shoulders. Reading a fanfic on the hetalia kink meme, where Alfred had been raped, but didn't go into details about the event, lead her to curl up into a litlle ball and cry, because it crossed the line from fiction to a sort of reality. But she's getting better for them- immediately afterwards she was terrified of being trapped to the point where she would hyperventilate just at someone locking a door, now it's reduced itself to regular claustrophobia. * This troper has a bunch of EyeScream-related triggers from an incident in the sixth grade. She used to be afraid if someone so much as pointed in the general direction of her eyes, and once freaked out at the eye doctor's office when the nurse tried to check her innerocular pressure. Now she's not as scarred, but she still doesn't like the EyeScream trope. Not even when played for laughs. ''Especially'' not when played for laughs. * The sound of snapping fingers makes me feel uneasy to the point of cringing. I have no idea why. * This troper doesn't have anything particularly triggering in her past (although she gets somewhat panicked and anxious when seeing footage of the 9/11 attacks), but I'm careful to warn of potential triggers in forum discussions and fanfic and such. Thank you {{SheroesCentral}} for introducing me to this particular bit of netiquette! * This Troper has a weird trigger: any mention of losing people is a trigger, and any mention of time travel disaster is a trigger. I will begin crying hysterically, and it is literally impossible to stop me. I can't even stop myself. I'll just cry until I'm too tired to cry anymore, but I'll still ''want'' to cry. Both can be traced back to... ProfessorLaytonAndTheUnwoundFuture. Don't laugh. It really does affect my life. * Very, very slight near-trigger for me is the song "Love Song" (you know, "I'm not gonna write you a love song..."). As my therapist put it, it was basically the soundtrack to my torturous 6th grade year (when it was top-of-the-charts everywhere). I ended up crying after school in 8th grade when the girls had to sing it in Choir class. Of course, I was surrounded by girls who were either those same girls from 6th, or part of the same group. The song just makes me feel like... I'm alone and messed-up and that I don't fit in and I never will, in the ''really, really bad way''. * Ever since being in a car accident in late 2009, I flinch and swerve a little when seeing cars approaching from the right at an intersection, because the accident was caused by someone who didn't stop and T-boned my car. I also have several, much more personal triggers. No, you don't get to hear about them. * For a while a few years back, after being almost assaulted by what me and my mom reckon was some strange drunk guy (who luckily didn't harm us at all) [[Tropers/NorthernDruid This Troper]]was really really scared of being alone at dark, or just at all. I still have some emotional triggers that'll make me angry if Autism (specifically

AspergersSyndrome) is portrayed the wrong way, especially if the latter is treated as automatically as much of an impairment as the former, and in general media portrayals of "special needs kids" and the like will also irk me to resentment. * This troper has dual citizenship and spent most of her early life in growing up and attending school in both America and Britain. As a result, I had some lovely experiences with culture shock when I was 7, and I never, ever felt like I fit in or belonged anywhere. My British friends saw me as American, my American friends saw me as British. I love both countries and I wouldn't change it if I could, but growing up with this displaced feeling, for a legitimately good reason, has given me some interesting triggers. The phrase "Why don't you just go back to where you came from?" is incredibly stressful to even write and/or hear; I get short of breath, anxious, and it's painful. If it is addressed ''to me'', is pretty much the one thing which will make me dissolve in tears instantly. The phrase "Why can't they ''just'' immigrate legally?" is also something of a BerserkButton for me; I find myself compelled to scream, "There is no JUST in this! Do you have any idea how hard it is to immigrate legally?" * It's not nearly as serious as the other posts here, but this troper had a rough time at school and was very depressed a while back, and continously listened to Linken Park. I'm over it, but whenever I hear a Linken Park song, it acts as a trigger and starts to pull me back down, and I have to turn the song off quickly before it brings back the worst and really makes me miserable again. * I've managed to avoid general topic triggers (and thank God for that, because I hate the idea that authors should limit themselves to avoid producing flashbacks in readers) but RapeAsComedy makes me severely uncomfortable at best and makes me go off on a rant at worst. This is even worse because one of my best friends thinks that references to rape are hilarious, uses threats of it to compliment girls, and doesn't see what the big deal is with it. * I have thankfully never experienced any kind of abuse, but my anxiety is occasionally triggered by things where reality isn't real or things that otherwise alter perception. * It's a fairly small trigger, but thanks to this troper's now-exboyfriend deciding that it would be a brilliant idea to calm her down and/or change her mind about the breakup by kissing and licking her neck, any foreign object, even if it's one she's putting on herself brushing against her neck causes her to jerk away violently. * Because of how, where and by whom it's been used, the sound of this troper's own name has become his trigger. EyeScream, too, but to a lesser degree. * Go ahead. Just mention "sexting" around me and talk about the effects it has on the one photographed. Even better, combine that with any mention of sexual exploitation, stalking, and/or attempted suicide over a polygamous relationship. Mention any of those things and see how I react; I freaking ''dare'' you. (To a lesser extent, any mention of unrequited friendship can do this, too; it's because of a certain incident, as well as the ones linked to my more severe triggers mentioned before, that I still have a suspicion that everyone is out to get me/secretly doesn't like me. Even people I would call my best

friends. Oh yeah, this is also why I react so severely to any mention of friends talking about each other behind their backs.) * How about the very concept of a trigger itself? This troper suddenly feels very horrible about himself whenever he happens to set off someone's trigger or phobia. * This troper's latest breakup (and the sharp decline in chemistry leading up to it) has given him a whole slew of new trigger terms. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TropaholicsAnonymous * Long setup required, please read patiently: I was in a collegeequivalent class where everyone had completed a two-month internship in company, then had to present and describe their work experience in front of three teachers. To help us with the public-speaking part, there were rehearsals in front of the whole class. For some reason, they insisted on having us give our names, which gave the whole thing a rather surreal feeling best described by "Hi, my name is Bob and, (tone shameful) uh, I finished an internship this summer." "All (chorus): Hello, Bob!" * During introductions at his school's Scifi/Fantasy club, one of this troper's friends introduced himself and followed up with "I haven't played ''{{World of Warcraft}}'' in three months". Cue mock applause. <<|TroperTales|>>

Trope2000 * A software house [[{{john_e}} this troper]] worked at had, in the early to mid 1990s, sold various programs whose names ended in "2000". It turned out that [[{{Irony}} none of them was Year 2000 compliant]]. * When in a corner store, ThisTroper saw a calculator marked "CALCULATOR 2000", in 2009. * I once passed by a tower of flats called "TOWER 2000," marked on top of the tower is the name in an imposing early 70s-style sci-fi font. And it's still there, truth be told.

TropeName * Story containing trope. * Story peripherally related to trope. ** Story that is vaguely related to the last one, except more exciting and less believable. * Story peripherally related to trope, noting the fact that ThisTroper has a girlfriend. * Story involving relationships and/or sex that goes out of its way to [[GenderNeutralWriting never reveal the gender of one or more involved parties]]. ** Similar example, involving This Troper's friend and This Troper's Friend #2 and This Troper's Best Friend and This Troper's Former Best Friend and This Troper's Ex-Boyfriend that goes out of its way not to

mention names, when it has so many people that they might has well have made up names. * Long, rambling, somewhat angsty aside vaguely related to trope. * Story related to a SuperTrope or SisterTrope, possibly the one TropeName was split off from, but not actually relevant to this one. * Short, pointless entry saying that This Troper is this trope, which fails to entertain the reader but makes This Troper feel giddy for some reason. * Pointless entry saying how This Troper is a subversion/inversion/aversion. * Story that uses indentation in some way. -->Troper: Statement. -->Someone else: Comment. -->Troper: Statement. -->Someone else: Funny comment. Line with no bullet that ruins the neatness of the page. * Very long conversation between two people that is vaguely related to trope. -->Troper: Declaration. -->Someone else: Question? -->Troper: Statement. -->Someone else: Statement. -->Troper: Statement and *action* -->Someone else: Exclamation! -->Troper: Exclamation! -->Someone else: Question? -->Troper: Exclamation! -->Someone else: Statement. -->Troper: Long explanation of events. -->Someone else: [[OverlyLongGag Statement]]. -->Troper: [[IncrediblyLamePun Punchline]].[[hottip:*:[[CaptainObvious Obvious]] [[DontExplainTheJoke explanation]].]] [[AntiHumor Or maybe not]]. * Short anecdote that is an excuse to stick a link to [[Tropers/{{Tabs}} troper's]] page. * Story containing trope ** Someone asking, "are you me?" ** Some else wondering about clones of themselves * Porely written stort with tunz of typoes and attemots at seaming kewl teh authur is moor than likelee a 12yearold who iz triing to sound reelly matchure and grownup that no 1 will actchually reed becuz it hurtz ur ayes and brane to look @ it to long * Someone being unsure whether or not their post falls under the trope at hand. * Completely made up story that could never happen in real life and that may or may not be NSFW, usually leading to more of these stories and leading to a page lock. * Completely made up story made up on the fly after reading all these other troper's stories due to longing to join the crowd, to look cool, and just to type something. ---Witty redirect to TropeName.

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TropeNameInjokes * RealLife example: {{This Troper}}'s personal testimony. * Typical, nondescript example from [[ThisTroper a troper]]. ** Same here! * Another bland personal anecdote from [[ThisTroper another troper]]. ** Hypothesizing that ThisTroper might be another troper's [[LongLostRelative missing twin]]. * ThisTroper. Just... This Troper. * Long, detailed explanation from an unknown troper which ends up being a CrowningMomentOfAwesome, a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, and a CrowningMomentOfFunny. ** Enthusiastic praise from ThisTroper. *** Equally enthusiastic seconding of [[MadeOfWin the opinion stated above]]. *** Unnecessary further lauding by ThisTroper, resulting in 32 bulletpoint-long-list full of random jokes and statements, possibly leading into {{Natter}}. * Assertion that this is very much TruthInTelevision. * Aversion from {{This Troper}}'s life. * Subversion from [[ThisTroper another troper's]] life. * Example from {{This Troper}} which doesn't [[SquarePegRoundTrope actually fit under the trope.]] * Another shoehorned example from a troper desperate for affirmation. ** Affirmation and attention being given to said troper. * A long, [[TearJerker heartbreaking]] example. ** Obligatory affection from a responding troper. ** Nomination of [[TheWoobie woobieism]]. *** Agreeing with nomination of [[TheWoobie woobeism]] and elevating to woobie status. ** Offer of hug for original troper. ** Insult from troll at the expense of original troper. * Personal anecdote from a Tabletop Roleplaying Game that ThisTroper DMed. * Description of someone ThisTroper knows that fits the trope to a T. * Poorly worded, badly explained example type thingy. * Anecdote from ThisTroper that we really, really [[TooMuchInformation didn't need to know.]] ** Typical {{squick}}ed reaction from [[ThisTroper another troper.]] ** Expression of curiosity and a [[FetishFuel desire to know more]] from ThisTroper. * Long, overwrought account from ThisTroper that [[ShaggyDogStory doesn't go anywhere.]] * Long decription that can be easily shortened. * Late example put somewhere in the middle. * Confusing anecdote that the original poster thinks was a very great, funny, and awesume example. * Story that that plays with the original trope. ** Speculation that This Troper knows That Troper, with own minor

example added as an afterthought. * An account of a mundane event from the life of ThisTroper that no one cares about. ** Random other troper asking if the previous poster is ThisTroper, because that exact same thing happened to me. *** Witty response from other troper asking if the above posters are my opposite sex clone! **** Random troper wondering who left the cloning machine on again. Oh, and mandatory 'if we make out, would it be masturbation or incest' remark. * Oh so clever subversion from ThisTroper that is [[NotASubversion not actually a subversion]]. * Example which involves the trope name being said by ThisTroper, therefore proving that TVTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary. ** [[EngagingConversation Proposal of marriage!]] * [[strike:Example slightly critical of any religion]] Deleted because it was oh-so-offensive * Rant related to the trope, which only remains because it actually involves an example. * Comment intended as snark on innocently-added entry that just ends up sounding bitchy and insensitive. ** WhatTheHellHero ?! *** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint DONGS!]] * Example from this troper intended to be cool, but coming across more psychopathic. * Example involving cosplay. * ThisTroper using TroperTales as a substitute for therapy by rambling about This Troper's personal problems (which This Troper tries to tie into the trope but really just wants to vent). * Humorous example ** Another troper asking either if they are someone they know or if they want to be friends. * Bitter, snarky example. * Disturbing tale that if true is not only illegal, but completely beyond the moral pale. * Example used to shoehorn in the fact that ThisTroper ''' ''[[http://xkcd.com/684/ HAS A GIRLFRIEND]]'' '''. * Poorly written example with awkward phrasing, from a troper that doesn't understand what the trope is. * Example by a troper that seemingly doesn't want to reveal his or her online identity, but rather obviously [[http://chaosvolt.deviantart.com foils]] his/her attempt at being an unknown troper in the process. Possibly on purpose. * Made up example ThisTroper heard from somewhere else and posts in order to sound interesting. * really long repetitive example with no punctuation marks that just goes on and on and on and takes up an awful lot of the page and comes out of nowhere in a massive paragraph that no one will bother to read because of how very very very very very very very long this example is and it just keeps going on and on and on and anyone who does read this is impatiently waiting for this example to get to its point but the long rambling anecdote never goes anywhere and the lack of punctuation

makes it hard to read until it abruptly cuts out with no war * Example in which the phrase [[TroperHandle This Troper]] is potholed to the troper's page. Chances are, it still points to the wrong namespace. * Example that isn't an example because it is an example of a trope that can't actually happen in real life, but it's ''kind of like'' an example, so that's okay, right? Right? * A FURIOUS example which first begins by describing a long, ''completely irrelevant'' backstory of This Troper's life, and then PROCEEDS TO TELL, IN ''LONG'' AND ''LOVING'' DETAIL, and with the use of innumerable '''all-caps''' and ITALICS and perhaps ''bold font'', just to get across the '''''POINT''''' just how incredibly {{egregious}} this thing was!! ** Pointing out a funny typo in the example which turns it into something racy. ** 50% chance that this post will either be a consolation or a "getover-it" type post. * BlatantLies * Unreferenced description of what unspecified psychologists have discovered about this trope. * Pretty average example. ** Ridiculously angry rebuttal! ** Example of another troper jumping on the anger bandwagon! ** Example of third troper coming to the original troper's defense! * A dream This Troper had where the trope happened, despite it being impossible in RealLife. Probably one of five or fewer examples on the page. * Example that ends in arson and murder, but it's okay because This Troper assures he's actually a really nice guy. ---[[TropeNameInjokes Return link]], with a joke that seemed funnier at 4:43 A.M. ---%% Unnecessary indexing markup.

TroperTales LetThemDieHappy [[redirect:TroperTales]] * While waiting for her grade in an important course, this trouper joked to the professor that she thought about telling him that she only had twenty four hours to live, and knowing her grade would really mean a lot. Her professor smiled and said that that wouldn't work, because if she were dying, he would just tell her that she got an "A". [[redirect:TroperTales]]

TropesAreTools * [[MmmKay This amateur filmmaker troper]] is obviously [[TvTropesWillRuinYourLife a terminal TvTropes addict]], but she

understands that it's not about the tropes, nor how you use them, but how it'll all look out in the finished product. That's what people pay to see... [[FanDumb most of them, anyway...]] * I used Trope titles as a kind of shorthand while I was writing a story. CursedWithAwesome, BlessedWithSuck, PowerIncontinence, WiseBeyondTheirYears, OlderThanTheyLook, CrazyPrepared, and many others helped me develop a protagonist. * [[{{Aristocles}} This troper]] always makes sure to go into a story knowing what kind of tropes he'll be using. It doesn't matter if he'll be playing with a trope, subverting it, or playing it straight. He always knows what he'll be doing. * After I started reading this website I got really paranoid to the point where I couldnt write. I kept asking: Are all my characters Mary Sues? Am I info-dumping? Am I using bad tropes? Then I read what people wrote about Twilight. Twilight has lots of bad tropes but people READ it, many even love it. Of course Im not writing Twilight, but the example cured my BSOD. I know that using a bad trope does not automatically equal nobody will ever read this crap. Now whenever I lose confidence I tell myself Tropes Are Not Bad and People Read Twilight. ** Also remember that even if you do blow it, there's SoBadItsGood to fall back on. * This Troper could make very good settings. However before he got into TV Tropes he was almost incapable of making a character. * This filmmaker Troper likes to pastiche genres, so a trope can work as a basic idea which is then turned on it's ear. It becomes bad if used generically, so the trick is to adapt the tropes into new territories. ---[[TropesAreTools Clicking here isn't a cliche]], but the phrase "Click here!" could do with a bit of work. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TroubledSympatheticBigot ---------* [[Tropers/{{Xzenu}} This troper]] once met a guy who came across as this, combined with InternalizedCategorism. I was representing [[http://www.rfsu.se/en/Engelska/ RFSU]], the Swedish branch of the planned parenthood federation. So, we have some information about BDSM. This very old man (around 85 years old, perhaps?) walks up to me and says in a quite hostile tone that he can't understand how anyone can enjoy pain. I started to explain that some people like the endorphine rush, while others don't like the physical sensation but the emotional aspects of domination. He then proceeds to confess that he is gay as well as a masochist, and that he comes from [a country where both minorities are very stigmatized]. So old, and in his whole life had NEVER been accepted: The local gays didn't want to have anything to do with a sadomasochist, while the local sadomasochists didn't want to have anything to do with a gay. As our conversation

progressed, he dropped his hostility versus us as well as versus himself. As we went separate ways, I introduced him to some {{Leathermen}}. Later that evening he followed them to a party, and got spanked for the first time in his life. He mailed me a few times after returning to his home country. He was happy with his visit to Sweden, but he also suffered a huge depression backlash when he got back home. ** [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} This troper]] pats the above troper on the back. While [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} this troper]] is heterosexual and doesn't like the idea of BDSM much (he hated getting handcuffed once before going to [[{{BedlamHouse}} the psychiatric ward though]], so that's self-explanatory), but he doesn't think BondageIsBad per se, as [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} this troper]] has a mild kink about the idea of getting with an attractive albinistic woman, that is almost-but-notquite a fetish (meaning he still gets attracted to more 'normallooking' women so he hasn't a true fetish, but he doesn't talk about it much otherwise he usually gets a DeathGlare, and considering the high UV levels on average [[{{LandDownunder}} in his home country]] most such women would - understandably - RunForTheBorder - well, ''airport''). [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} This troper]] [[{{MadeOfWin}} therefore thinks the above troper deserves my two-thumbs-up]], all the way from Australia! [[{{NeutralGood}} You're a good person for that]], and damn what TheFundamentalist might say. --------------

TroublingUnchildhoodBehavior ChildrenAreInnocent, right? Sometimes they're not. Sometimes they are, but they end up trying things they really shouldn't. For when kids innocently end up seeing things they shouldn't, go to TroperTales/HarmfulToMinors. !Kids doing totally wrong things as if it's normal: * This troper was deeply disturbed by a MySpace video of an 8-year-old smoking. Her brother was filming and apparently thought it was just funny. This troper was horrified. * This troper found out the Earth was a pretty crappy place at the age 6, learning all the cruel deaths, rape, violence, and just plain evilness that happens everywhere. Thing was, I thought it did happen everywhere, so when this kid started bullying me when I was eight, my first reaction was "To go to War". My parents and teacher's didn't believe me, and told me that the bully was just playing. The next day I took a screwdriver, and when I found the bully, I started to stab him until the teachers pull me off. When questioned why I did this, I responded: "That was what they do to my friends in friends in Greensboro." I was released from custody. * At the age of eleven This Troper's sister had a female classmate that put on make up, wore really sexy clothes she took from her sister and enjoyed spending time with 14-15 years old boys. My sister was one of her only female friends. One day I was talking to her she did seductive grins, put her legs in my lap and told me how she liked to

kiss boys. After some months my mother discovered she wasn't making up those stories and my sister wasn't allowed to see her anymore. ** Not normal? alot of 11 year old girls are sluts. ** No, it is not normal for an 11 year old to act like that. *** Though it shouldn't be, it kind of ''is''. In my sixth grade year, fifth graders were doing marijuana in the boys' bathrooms and two students were sent to juvenile hall (not naming names, but I knew them personally, and was in a class with both of them in the years before) for drug dealing. In my fourth grade year, there was a sixth grade girl who got pregnant. For non-American readers, sixth grade is for eleven to twelve year olds. Now, in seventh grade (don't judge me), several girls are [[FilleFatale sexually active]], and rumours circulate of one who had a breakdown over her two abortions. Kids come to school smelling of cigarettes and alcohol. Almost everyone has a... ''comprehensive'' knowledge of sex acts. As in, they're able to tell [[TheAristocrats The Aristocrats.]] It's almost [[ChildrenAreInnocent heartbreaking]], when you look at it from a grown-up point of view. * Likewise, there are videos on YouTube of little kids with a larger swear word vocabulary than you'd expect... from a 6-year-old. I'm talking about "Bad Mouthed Little Sister" in particular. And there's more where she came from. (Since removed from YouTube and put on eBaum's World [[http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80477958/ here]].) ** Even worse, people acted as if that video was hilarious. Seriously, Youtubers. It's a ''six year old''. I can't believe someone would be proud of their child for expressing hatred and anger like that. Especially mindblowing is that she uses the N word. *** You two have clearly never heard of Xbox Live, where the N-word is the closest you'll get to a friendly greeting from the underage kids playing "[[RatedMForMoney mature-rated games]] [[MemeticMutation for mature gamers like myself]]". A conversation this troper has heard during a match of ''GearsOfWar'' when someone got fed up with one little kid's whiny voice: ----> '''Dude:''' Shut up, you little 12-year-old son of a whore! ----> '''Kid:''' I'm 11! Get it straight, fucker! *** My brother used to swear when he was 4 (we have no idea where he got it from). Our parents attempted to stop it by putting hot sauce on his tongue, which he enjoyed. **** I'm glad he enjoyed it. Torturing your kid for fucking WORDS pisses me off. *** My cousin has been swearing since she was 4, but I find it more annoying than horrifying though. In fact, I notice a lot of little kids these days trying to sound cool by swearing excessively like the dumbass' they'll grow to be. Admittedly I cursed a lot too when I was growing up in the late 90's, but at least I knew what I was saying compared to the half-retards of now. * When this troper's family was looking to adopt a child, we hosted a five-year-old from Russia who engaged in disturbing sexual behavior. She was just as sexually active as her mother when she was taken into custody by her government. ** That's just sad. * When this troper was 8, she went to a foreign language class with

her family. The teacher drew something, that looked suspiciously like...well before he informed us it was a tadpole, he asked us what we thought it was. I innocently raised my hand (I didn't know ''everything'' about the birds and the bees...butttt) and said, "Sperm?" ** This troper knew about eggs and sperm by the time she was six or seven (although I can't remember if it originally came from being a science nerd or my parents giving me a book about the facts of life at around that age). I don't recall unnerving anyone with this knowledge before middle school, but when I was around 12 I picked up a dried trail from a glue gun and informed everyone within earshot that it looked like a sperm. I made it swim around in the air. ** This troper knew about sperm at age six, but didn't know about tadpoles. When he encountered a bunch of tadpoles swimming around the family boat at our vacation house, he shouted to his parents, "There's black sperm in the boat!" ** This troper knew about the birds and the bees as soon as she could ask about them. Needless to say, she never gave the stork a second thought. May explain some things these days, though... ** When [[{{ginnyisdacoolest}} this troper]] started asking at age 4 where babies came from, my parents gave me a book on it (I was an early reader). Problem was, I then knew all the mechanisms, including technical terminology, without really realising it was taboo, something my parents regretted when they heard me telling a male friend about how maybe one day he'd put his penis in my vagina. * When this troper was 12 years old, he attempted suicide. * One of the kids in my neighborhood did terrible things all the time, he treated his little brother very poorly, and this wasn't normal sibling bullying, he was actually trying to kill him, he also had a somewhat advanced vocabulary, and would constantly talk about sex and sperm and was very foul mouthed, he tried smoking and liked it, he tortured small animals in his spare time, and started fires whenever possible, eventually he got better and he isn't a little psycho anymore. ** Uh... my dear, I doubt he's gotten "better". He's just gotten better at hiding it. High intelligence? Check. Reckless self harming behavior? Check. Pyromania? Check. Torturing small animals? Check. That kid is about as obvious a [[TheSociopath Sociopath]] as possible from your description. Don't be surprised if he ends up killing somebody in the future. * When this troper was in preschool, there was a mean little boy in the same class who threw building blocks at her and said that when he was all grown up he would track her down and kill her. * This troper had to look after a coworker's 7-year-old son for a bit. Nothing unusual, since he's the go-to guy for entertaining kids anyway, due to his sheer amount of gadgetry (iPod, Nintendo DSi, emulator games on a flash drive, and knowledge of things like Google Earth). But this kid was allowed by his parents to watch ''SouthPark'' and ''FamilyGuy''. He had a ''FamilyGuy'' themed jigsaw puzzle game on his mom's phone, and some of the puzzles were suggestive pictures involving female characters from the show. The boy (remember, he's 7) was saying things like "Whoa, wouldn't you like to get with her?" and

"Check out those boobs!" and kept trying to show me. I iterated to him that I was not attracted to these cartoon women, and he agreed. He mentioned that he has a crush on a girl in his class, which normally wouldn't concern me considering that I had my first crush at age 8, but considering the way he talks about women... Though to be honest, I'm pretty sure he's all locker-room talk anyway. He'd better be. (Ideally, he wouldn't even be ''talking'' like that anyway considering he's going into second grade!) I now question said coworker's parenting. (Another coworker lets her 6- and 8-year-old sons watch ''FamilyGuy'', but they're very well behaved.) * This troper was actually encouraged by her parents to drink wine from a very young age - about 3. * This troper once had to escort a 10-year old girl through some woods at camp, and we eventually got really lost because she decided to walk in the exact wrong direction on purpose. While walking, said 10-year old offered this teenage troper "hot lesbian sex in the woods" just in case we never found our way out, so we could have babies and raise a family. * This Troper isn't sure if this counts as child-on-child sexual abuse, but she does know that when she was about eight, and later when she was eleven, she got into some... situations that she was at first enthusiastic/curious about and then very uncomfortable with with two of her "friends." (I don't really want to get too in-depth.) * ThisTroper had a classmate in the fourth grade who raped a girl. Wasn't even expelled until the end of the year despite doing other things like blackmailing a kid through physical torture into hitting another one. And this was in an expensive private school. Everything got out publicly despite efforts by the school to hide it, and trust me, by the end of that year, every single girl was trained by their parents in some sort of martial art. * My parents never lied about this stuff to me, and i drew an odd character, he was a tadpole named Sperm... * [[@/FarseerLolotea This troper]] used to [[NightmareFuelColoringBook draw fantasy battle scenes]] and write violent works of fiction. She also tended to [[CreepyChild plot bloody vengeance against bullies]], and once wondered aloud why more suicides weren't carried out in a quick and clean fashion. * This particular troper started reading the Sword of Truth series at age 5. Wondering what some of the more adult parts meant, he went online (this was 1992, but we did have internet due to my mom's job) and found out all the wonderful biology of the human body. And then the far more fun things about sex, rape, murder, and whatnot. Coupled with reading some Robin Cook and Michael Crichton at age 6 and I became interested in Science. Managed to pull off homemade napalm before 7 and frog disections shortly afterward. Sadly it didn't result in figuring out how they combined it to dino DNA (yeah I'd read Jurassic Park.) Also culminated in knowing what BDSM was (and liking the thought of it immensely). 23 now and as you might imagine some of that information did NOT help my growing up. ** How could it not help? You were likely much smarter than your peers. That alone makes you better than them. * This troper is not that bad compared to other examples on this page,

but did start telling dirty jokes at about 8 and reading smut at 10. Also, whenever I was given a creative writing task in primary school I would write some kind of gruesome murder story and get an A - because they were marked on technical skill, not storyline. * Judging by testimony ([[@/SoWeAteThem My]] memory of childhood is foggy at best), I was quite the EnfantTerrible in this regard. One I'm not too ashamed of: When I was a ''really'' young tyke, I apparently held a pelican down and shoved my arm down its beak to fish my hotdog back out of its mouth--in front of my own mother. ** Several years later, I would be forced to show my parents that day's questions-- I made some rather off-color references to TheProducers over the course of a few questions, for lack of any knowledge of context. All I knew was the chorus to "SpringtimeForHitler," and that's because Dad loved that song. * This troper threatened to commit suicide a few times in school when she was about 9 or 10. The other kids begged her to go through with it, preferably where they could watch. * This troper's father has the perfect blackmail fuel, and he knows it: from about the ages 4-6 I masturbated frequently and even taught my younger sister how to do it. * At the age of 8 this troper got jealous of her sister's new born child who had stolen the attention of everyone in the family. I was mad enough to come up with a plan in which I would feed the baby a nasty concoction made out of various floor cleaners and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking dust]]. Thankfully my brother found out and I dumped the stuff away before I could even do anything with it. !Kids trying adult behavior for the first time: * In college, a fellow student told of how she let her 10-year-old son stay at a friend's house, and was shocked when she later found out that he had been invited by his friend's parents to drink alcohol. The poor kid was throwing up all over the place. * This troper's mom told me that she and her friends would sneak cigarettes from their parents and light up. ''In the girl scouts bathrooms.'' They couldn't inhale because they weren't used to it yet. * This troper was once hired to watch over a "troublesome" ten year old boy. He was nice, actually, and he even got a friend to come over, a girl I found out was 13. When I went into their room later after dozing out for a while, I [[{{Squick}} found the boy and girl having sex.]] I immediately ran downstairs and called the parents. [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel They were not surprised in the least, just disappointed.]] ** I can't understand why that's high octane nightmare fuel. So, he's acting differently, and a little older. I don't see the problem. Nobody's being harmed. *** Yeah, nobody's being harmed. Just a few psyches, if not a child showing signs of future abusive behavior. Let me repeat what the above troper said: ''HE WAS 10''. HOW IS THERE NOTHING WRONG WITH A 10 YEAR OLD FUCKING AN 13 YEAR OLD!?!?! A 13 year old fucking is already incredibly idiotic and immature, but a ''10'' year old? For the 13 year old girl, it shows either being able to be very easily persuaded, or willingness to take advantage of somebody very troubled. As for the

10 year old... Usually when kids have sex ''that young'', it means that something is '''''VERY WRONG.''''' The fact that the parents weren't surprised, meaning he probably did it before, is why this is [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel High Octane Nightmare Fuel]]. * This troper, at the age of about five, wandered around a party taking sips out of all the grown-ups' wine glasses and getting tipsy. * This troper has a younger cousin who would call her "fucker" all the time. She'd say things like, "Hi, big fucker" and "Big fucker, can you help me with this?" Turns out she thought "fucker" meant "relative", so when she called me "big fucker", she was really calling me "big cousin". She learned it from her parents (so she was trying out "big people words" as she calls them) and they never bothered to correct her, even though they knew she constantly said this word. She did stop saying it eventually, but not until she reached second grade. * This troper allegedly yelled "fuck!" in a restaurant when she was about three, scandalizing everyone in the vicinity... What are you doing? You're too young to go back to TroublingUnchildhoodBehavior! That's just totally wrong! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TrouserSpace * [[{{Smerf}} This]] troper used to keep an electronic key in his back pocket, and would touch his butt to the sensor to unlock the door. When keeping it in a sporran while wearing a kilt, though... Things get funnier. ** Speaking of which, I've kept a flask tucked in the back of the kilt. ** I've also kept things tucked in that little flap on the front of a pair of boxer-briefs. * I used to have a party trick where I'd wear men's jeans from tesco and expound on the brilliant hammerspace, sufficient to carry two manga volumes in. three if it's half-size Dark Horse. (which makes explaining it even better.) * Panties worn under boxers provide for an interesting amount of [[VictoriasSecretCompartment storage.]] Or so I heard. * I once had the idea of cutting a hole in a pocket so that I could put a length of something in through my pants, which would allow me to do this without the squick factor. I'm not sure how effective this would actually be though. ** Depends on what you use it for. A 'Friend' of mine did that with a bannana. * My (male) friend typically wears very tight (read: girls') pants, being of the "scene" persuasion in terms of fashion, and yet still manages to be able to fit things in there that really don't look like they'd be able to fit (example: full-sized textbooks). He doesn't use this for general storage though (I presume it's not too comfortable), just comedic effect. You know, snatch someone's possession, shove it down his pants, the person freaks out because (a) their possession is

''in his pants,'' and (b) it really doesn't seem like it should be able to fit there, Main/HilarityEnsues. The running gag among our close friends is that this unique ability is due to his * ahem* [[Main/IfYouKnowWhatIMean Asian ancestry]]. * ThisTroper doesn't exactly fulfill the trope, but has been known to tuck his wallet into the ankle of sweatpants with no pockets, with the cuff elastic holding it in. * This Troper is hardly ever seen without the following items stored in/on his trousers: a wallet, car keys, apartment keys, a pocket calendar, an assortment of USB key drives, a swiss army knife, a multi-tool, a set of screwdriver bits for the multi-tool, a minimulti-tool, an mp3-player, a small bottle of water, candy, a whistle, a mobile phone, a replacement battery for the phone, a bluetooth headset, a tissue, a mechanical pencil, sticky notes, a spare hair tie, and AAA batteries. Frequent additional items include: a tape measure, glasses, sunglasses, a hard disk drive, a camera, rope, a flashlight, earphones, a compass, a GPS navigation device, a power supply and a cable for the navigation device, and a Rubik's Cube. * When this troper visited Spain on a package tour with a group from her school, the faculty sponsor insisted that anyone who intended to hold on to his or her own passport and spending money had to carry them in a money belt down his or her pants as an anti-pickpocket measure. Most of the group ended up doing this. ---Is that a 12 foot extension ladder in your pants, or are you just... [[TrouserSpace Oh, I see]]. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TrueArtIsAngsty * A friend of mine is both an artist and very upbeat. I was very suprised when I found a bunch of angsty drawings in her notebook and I decided to ask her about them. She said that she doesn't really like them, but a real artist should draw at least one fallen angel a month to maintain his reputation. * [[Tropers.ReikoKazama This troper]] has written many a Notepad document [[spoiler:in Wingdings]], and the majority of them are this. [[spoiler:All the others are tests to see if my dad has changed the font to something everyone can read. He does this when he wants to read things like read-mes and such, and quite often forgets to change it back.]] * This troper's writing tends to be much better at first when [[CreatorBreakdown things aren't going so well]] and the story gets angsty. * This troper's high school holds an annual art contest called Reflections. The year that the theme was "On the outside, looking in" this troper believes she won the creative writing portion because her story was the only one that wasn't horribly angsty. She wrote a collection of fractured fairy tales ending in "The three blind mice. On the outside, feeling in."

* This troper once had an English teacher who thought along these lines...it grew [[UnderStatement rather irritating.]] ** Can relate. All those in favour of starting a support group for those who have had to put up with adamant (and I do mean ''adamant'') supporters of this trope? ** We meet in the library at 7:30 on Mondays. Bring Twinkies and tapes of your favorite shows from your childhood. Hot chocolate will be provided. * When my English class got our yearly exams back, our teacher voiced her shock about how dark and depressing our creative writing portion was. One girl basically said TrueArtIsAngsty, just not in those words. ** ThisTroper has a similar story. Our English teacher was disappointed that we (the top class) got reasonably low scores on our creative writing components because a good portion of the class wrote angsty teen love stories, and a slightly larger portion wrote something angsty in general. The person who actually got the highest mark for their creative writing component wrote TeamFortress2 Fanfiction. [[spoiler:This Troper is the one who got that highest mark.]] *** MadeOfWin. * This troper is good at writing regardless of the tone, but keeps ending up falling into a dark pit of self-hate for some reason. My English teacher did admit that writing darker themed things are easier, but not necessarily better. I've written a song called "All art is depressing" which is a parody of the usual thought process. * Subverted -- if that's possible -- in a funny tale told by ThisTroper's art professor. He was a part of a class that had a "selfportrait" project, where the students tried to reveal something about themselves in a piece. They decided to play a game and tried to guess which project belonged to whose. The atmosphere turned serious when they discovered a disturbing piece composed of torn up, crumpled paper, and angry scrawls. Extremely concerned about whoever made this piece, everyone tried to encourage him or her to speak out. And then they realized [[AntiClimax it was just trash]]. * This troper isn't a great writer, but he is very good at finding ways to ruin his character's lives. * Subverted. This troper's english class once created a book of poetry that included pieces from all the students in the class. Most of the poems in the book were angsty, depressing, free-form poems about love and death. This troper's poem was about happy butterflies. This troper also noticed that poems that rhyme or have a or have a common structure are not as popular or "angsty" as poems that don't rhyme and have no real structure. * My writing is very much like this. * This trope is the sole reason I managed to get good grades in my (compulsory) secondary school art class. I will freely admit that my drawing skillss suck ass. The one time we could do a free topic piece I sketched a bunch of prisms and pyramids and drew a red ball in a corner with pastels. I called it "The Art of Being Lonely". I got a B+ and some very angry friends. * This Troper thinks, that all of her non-angsty stories are generally more poorly written than the angsty ones. I don't know if it's a

subconcius thing produced by my [[KnightInSourArmor cynical view of the world]], but when comparing the two types it's clearly visible, that angsty stories have more fluent and 'beautiful' language and a better plot. Happy and [[TastesLikeDiabetes sugar coated]] stories just aren't my cup of tea. * This Troper wonders if literature has been getting less angsty of late. It's not that there aren't plenty of tragic tales written today, it's just that a downer ending seems almost mandatory before the modern era, and a yet the vast majority of modern fiction (when things like TV and movies are included) has a happy ending. * I suffer from this BIG times. It's either this or CerberusSyndrome. Here's my story which.... ** Started as: A very idealistic story about group of people in a restaurant with lots and lots of FoodPorn, SceneryPorn, CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, and overall loaded with SweetDreamsFuel, and some of my friends described it as {{ARIA}} on restaurants. Also the characters were *** [[TheHero The Chef]]: YamatoNadeshiko SupremeChef TeamMom [[NeutralGood who is very compassionate about her co-workers]]. Sort of like Alicia from {{ARIA}}. *** [[TheLancer The Co-Chef]]: Unofficial TeamDad [[DeadpanSnarker while can a little snarky]], overall nice guy who cares about everyone around him. *** [[TheChick The Waitress]]: A GenkiGirl who basically radiates cheerfulness and frequently preaches about how today is the best day and people should "[[{{ARIA}} Enjoy Life!]]''. *** [[TheSpook Waitor 1]]: TheQuietOne but willing to give hand to anyone. *** [[FunnyForeigner Waitor 2]]: FunnyForeigner who is basically the male version of the Waitress ** Now:...a drama about people with issues. Those people mentioned above? *** The Chef: StepfordSmiler who heavily suffers from guilt over [[spoiler:manipulating her childhood friend into commiting suicide]] and suffers from HeroicBSOD after a massive BewareTheNiceOnes moment. *** The Co-Chef: Shunned by and hates his family members because he think they are doing a lot better than him. Becomes more and more of a ControlFreak who easily provoked into ClusterFBomb and breakdown. *** The Waitress: Plain insecure about her life and cannot genuinely commit to anything. *** The Waitor 1: An aspiring singer who got his vocal chord broken during fight between his father. Drops out of high school and works in the restaurant, [[NietscheWannabe believing that nothing has any meaning whatsoever]] *** The Waitor 2: An immigrant who worries about his siblings back in his poor country. ** All these are sort of planned out though. [[CerberusSyndrome Maybe I'm thinking of the other trope...]] * This troper has herself a comic idea, the basic thought process of which is "Okay, can we do that again, but with a lot more ruining of the character's life and sanity?" However, she has another one that is [[WidgetSeries pretty]] [[SliceofLife much]] [[GagSeries the]]

[[SweetDreamsFuel exact]] [[RapidfireComedy opposite]], so it all evens out...''Right?'' * This Troper's 6th Grade class was studying poetry at the same time we were studying bees, thus we had to write poetry about bees. [[CrowningMomentOfFunny All of it was about starving to death, or being kicked out of the hive to freeze, or working yourself to the point of exhaustion, including a cinquain that simply began "Cold death."]] * My current English teacher is, for the most part, a lovely person. However, she has a ''bad'' case of this trope. When I said I had a major problem with the idea, her response was along the lines of "But if you're really intelligent enough to create TrueArt, then you'll see that [[CrapsackWorld the world is a terrible place.]] Weirdly enough, she's often expressed content with her life and a love of small, simple pleasures. Then the class got into a discussion on the difference between darkness (e.g. ''TheDarkKnight'') and ''bleakness'' (e.g. ''TheGreatGatsby''-- the horrible people get away with everything. There's nothing you can do, so you might as well just go home.) * This troper was criticised for not wanting to do "Angsty" RPs simply for several reasons: '''1)''' This trope has been forced on him ''SO'' much he's sick of hearing everyone whine bitch and moan about their problems and wind up worse off no matter what they do.. '''2)''' "Angsty" RP seems to be, at best, characters sitting around crying, bitching and moaning about their problems that'd make the [[MalcolmInTheMiddle Malcolm]] scream at them in annoyance to stop being so depressed. An RP where we just sit around in the room and whine about how bad our lives are. ''[[SarcasmMode Riveting]]''. And at worst? Something that'd make me wonder why the hell people would ''want'' to do that to their characters. '''3)''' It always bugged me how many times I'd hear people cry "Wangst" under characters showing emotions other than anger, neutrality, and maybe happiness - Nobody likes an emo. I'd always hear people say to "Try to be like [[ThePollyanna Pollyanna]]", whereas someone who ''is'' a Pollyanna winds up being called "Gay" (if they're male), "unrealistic" and "unsympathetic". Really? after ''all those'' complaints about wangsters....I'd think you'd ''WANT'' a freaking Pollyanna who doesn't have a negative bone in their body! '''4)''' Would you want to be around an "Angsty" character in real life? No - frankly everyone I know would smack that person upside the head and yell "STOP. WHINING. '''NOW'''." because they're too annoyed to see them as a Woobie. '''5)''' The whole "Mature people like Angsty stuff, DarkerAndEdgier is for ''adults'' and ''Grown-ups''! only ''kids'' like LighterAndSofter shit", and I find a lot of DarkerAndEdgier works seem to be praised on ''basis'' of being DarkerAndEdgier and not whether or not it has any depth. (I think that you could make a ''very'' deep work that's "G" rated and it'd be derided as "Kiddy garbage".) Don't get me wrong - I do not want "Eternally positive and idealistic" stuff since the opposite can [[TastesLikeDiabetes be just as annoying]] - I just want people to tone down on this trope ''just a little''. * This troper's school anually hold a poetry contest, in which, somehow, only angsty poems ever get to the finale. So this troper

parodied the trope by writing a hilarious poem about a clown that commits suicide... It got to the finale at least. * What one of my best friends and I think. Our stories usually have something to do with Star-Crossed Lovers, and mines tend to have emotionally unstable characters with family problems. * This troper is writing a story with some quite dark elements; this trope isn't what he's working towards, however. He's trying to invoke some DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, partly through the narrative style of the main character. One of the ultimate goals of the story is to get the main character to lose apathy, at least a little. Hopefully, he can suppress the angsty elements; whether the story can be seen as true art will be in the readers' hands. * This troper is a firm believer of this, as whenever I write a DarkerAndEdgier RP or story, I feel it is some of my best work. Though I do have some surprisingly decent stories that are generally light hearted, I tend to enjoy the darker, more depressing things more. I love putting my characters through the ringer, making them cry and generally hate themselves. It gets me crying too, and if I can make someone else feel for the character and cry too, then I feel I've done my job. Kind of in direct contrast to most of the people here, but that's just me. * This troper has a habit of writing stories like this- not that she actually wants to. She's trying to write happier endings to try and kick the habit, and is getting there slowly. Not that she'd want to stop writing angst completely, just stop making everything so depressing all the time. ---Wait, you want to go to RousseauWasRight? No, no, no check TrueArtIsAngsty. It's ''much'' better. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TrueArtIsForeign * While [[@/SoWeAteThem I]] don't necessarily believe this, I do find it interesting how many of my favorite bands and albums are foreign. I live in America, yet most of the stuff I still listen to is from England or Japan. I also have stuff from Australia, Canada, Ireland, Spain, and Germany. * Good video games are made in Japan, not in the West and certainly not here in the United States of America. One exception exists, it's called [[{{Ptitlel59ywfenym8d}} Assassin's Creed]] (made in Quebec by French Canadians, which makes it foreign as well), but other than that one series there's no such good thing as a good Western game. Not since MortalKombat hit the PolygonCeiling, at least. Ain't nothing for me in a climate dominated by [[RealIsBrown brown and gray]] [[FirstPersonShooter FPS]] with that accursed unnatural control scheme... ** Methinks the above troper needs to look at something other than FPS/TPS games to see that good western games in other genres do exist, though the gaming media doesn't seem to want you to know that.

** Even western companies make interesting FPS' and TPS', like Valve or Rockstar. ** Last time I checked, the West has some very good games. Fallout 1 and 2, the good TBS series (not TBTactics), the NFS series (Colin McRae too, if you count the UK as West), the LucasArts and Sierra adventure games, all those are western. * Of note under the IngmarBergman entry, this troper's mother took a class examining his films during her first year of college. Near the end of the semester there was a viewing of one final Bergman film, which she and her friends soon realized wasn't a Bergman film at all, but in fact a parody where all the actors spoke English with ridiculously exaggerated Swedish accents. When they started cracking up, the seniors sitting in front of them turned around to angrily shush the dumb freshmen for laughing at a "serious foreign film". ---Retournez la [[Main/TrueArtIsForeign page principale]].

TrueArtIsIncomprehensible * A senior studio art major show at my college was kind of a hodgepodge of bullshit and good stuff. The absolute worst was a series of highly conceptual pieces that were apparently a commentary on gender, sexuality and 9/11 which culminated in a performance piece which consisted of the artist, in clown make-up, dancing in front a projection of the WTC falling while red paint dripped from his fingers. The best deliberately invoked this trope - from a distance, they looked like wrinkled pieces of paper, and the only reason why I went up to look at them was because I was so angry that the artist had decided they were good enough to display in the gallery. Up close, however, they were covered in highly intricate patterns drawn in white colored pencil that was only visible very close up, forcing both a real emotional reaction from me and making me engage with the piece on a deeper level than I would have otherwise. * I hate much of Modern art. I see a TON of Modern art because my sister (a Fine-arts major at USC, halfway to her B.A.) needs to go to museums for class, or just wants to see the art. Most of the time, I'm underwhelmed (rare occaisions I'll be impressed, such as a series of paintings where the artist let a movie title guide his additions), and my sister is impressed. Except for Eva Hesse. My lord, we saw an Eva Hesse exhibit. As we were walking out, my sister said, "That was shit.". We could agree, art is incomprehensible. ** Also from above troper, I overheard a friend once trying to justify modern art by saying it was made because it needed to be made. "Art for art's sake"... (Anyone who played Civ4 remembers) "...is an empty phrase. Art for the sake of the good, art for the sake of the true and the beautiful... That is the art that I wish to make." That'd be too complex for him, so I shortened it to a common motivator: Money. Most artists enjoy their job and also do it because there's potential to make BANK. It shut him up, proving that he obviously didn't know Dada (which is this trope incarnate and would have justified him). *** this troper totally understands you, i'm more practically minded i

enjoy big fancy machines over anything, i would much rather have a cut out of a jet engine on my wall than what they pass off as "art" these days. i had a hilarious idea a while ago where i would paint a white canvas white, then give it a fancy name, it's dedication is to the amount of bullsh*t i could spout to get some idiot to pay out their ears for it. * As a fan of a lot of contemporary art, I would like to thank Andy Warhol (and some previous artists) for blurring the line between artistic and gimmicky. I mean that without an ounce of sarcasm. I do, however, think that there's really just a small minority of contemporary artists who give the entire thing a bad reputation - the Young British Artists spring to my mind first (although I don't doubt that some people do enjoy their art, and I don't hold that against them). To me, part of the joy of contemporary art, or contemporary thinking in art, is the understanding that you can understand it however you want. ** This troper loves all art. [[CalvinAndHobbes There is no "high" or "low" art. Just "art"]]. When people challenge a piece's credibility as "art", I note how from the [[FromACertainPointOfView perspective of alien beings]], all human made "art" would be equally nonsensical. That all paintings are but crushed pigment on canvas, that all sculpture is mangled metal and rock on a plinth, that movies are a blurry projection of a thousand photographs, that music is noise, and that storytelling is even duller noise. But then I would also note that it's also OK for people to have these feelings. Art affects everybody differently. Sometimes, the art has no effect at all. That's OK too. I just don't like it when people try to be pedants and declare for others what can be art or not, or how spoken "bullshit" is not enough to make something "art". Art isn't about just what we can see or hear; it's about what we feel! Some people just forget that things don't have to be "beautiful" to be ''beautiful''. ** As far as This Troper is concerned, you sir, speak some serious-ass truth. * This troper remembers when a wall in his basement had two posters placed on it by his mother for a party to mock this. One was of a nice art scene with a price of two cents. The other was of a blank piece of white paper with a $50,000 price. A family joke was made that the white paper was of a polar bear in a snowstorm. ** In this troper's family the last slide of a family slide show with no picture is described as this. ** This troper has heard (although isn't sure) that there's a museum somewhere where they are actually displaying three blank canvases. And they're calling it art ''why!?'' *** SF-MOMA. They claim it shows "empty space". MY ARSE! ** Although all of that was ripped off from Robert Rauschenberg, who painted three canvases with special white gloss paint so they would ''slightly'' relfect the viewer - the point being that the viewing experience would be different every instant that you looked at it. [[FollowTheLeader The thousands of imitators]] [[MisaimedFandom missed the point completely.]] * This troper, an art student, once passed an installation art oriented course with the highest possible grade... mostly by recording

random things on a video camera and then projecting the footage on some more random things. These works had absolutely no other point or meaning than to fulfill their respective assignments. Granted, the final project of that course ''did'' gradually morph into a thoughtout piece of work, but even then was a thing of little effort. ** Well, [[RuleOfCool did it look cool]]? * This troper, also an art student, has nothing but respect for the likes of Warhol, Duchamp, Rauschenberg and Pollock, because they were the first people to ''think of it''. The countless imitators? No respect whatsoever. My story though is similar to the above - I had to create a piece of conceptual sculpture, so I got a kitchen sink, attached a showerhead to it and hung spoons off it. Because it ''looked cool''. My art teacher knew this the whole time, and thankfully thought it was hilarious. * This troper shamelessly blames Picasso for starting this entire "abstract art" business, making this OlderThanTelevision. ** This troper would blame the Post-Impressionists for influencing the Cubists and Fauves, but she likes them. After reading about Abstract Expressionism and De Stijl, though, she would like to lend her full support to Dada. "Art is dead, long live Dada!" *** The precedents are even older. ''Par example'', [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoherents Les Arts Incohrents]]. * This contributor recalls hearing a story about a piece of abstract art entered into an art competition. It won. When asked for the artist to step up and receive their prize, a women gently placed her two-year old child on the stage. The judges asked her if she was joking. She was not. This contributor is unfortunately unsure as to whether or not this is true, but he sure hopes it is. ** This troper remembers that too! It made the newspapers in Britain a few years ago. The painting was just some blobs of paint that had been allowed to run, and it was entered under the title "An Impressionist View of a Group of Trees". * This troper took a "beginning drawing" class in college lo these many years ago, having somehow convinced someone in his university's art department that he had the bare minimum of talent to qualify. Unfortunately, that's all he had, which resulted in a great deal of criticism from the instructor. The only time he got an "A" on a project was the day he got fed up, took a brush and a bottle of india ink, and started mechanically stamping a gridwork of brush prints across a two-foot-by-three-foot sheet of paper simply to occupy himself until class ended. * This troper, unable to make the film she really wanted for lack of resources and coming up hard against a deadline, went to the beach and drew random designs in the sand, filmed it, and edited the results together with gratuitous sound effects, especially the boi-oi-oing one. While the instructor for the class was well known as a pushover when it came to grades and the troper had put a serious effort into the other two films that constituted the coursework, she's still amazed that she got an A for the class. * Particularly frustrating to this troper when taking various artistic classes in hopes of an easy grade thanks to an already well talented hold on traditional art, only managed to actually get anything higher

than a D when he took a white canvas, some motor oil, and proceeded to make two lines on it all the while making up something regarding my soul and past, to bemuse myself. That piece got an almost perfect grade. * Actually, This Troper's getting away with it, due to a complete inability to draw and a rather obsessive-compulsive need to. It actually takes a surprising amount of effort to be incomprehensible. * This troper once did a video for the art class that consited of him filming random stuff around the school. He passed with high grades, but then again, the teacher was a pushover and gave pretty much everybody high grades as long as the dre or filmed something. * This troper had a friend who went to an art museum (I think in Ottawa) where she found a painting called the Wall of Fire. The painting was made up of a blue background and two vertical orange lines. People claimed that if you look closely, you can actually see "fire". The troper's friend, like every other sane person, could not. And the painting was bought for a lot of money. Yeah... ** ''Voices'' of Fire. It's in the National Gallery of Canada, since apparently there was nothing more worthwhile to spend money on that day. To get the "fire" effect, what you need to do is stare very hard at it, and then wait long enough for your eyes to go all screwy. Some would argue that the same technique will work with just about anything. Those people clearly aren't true artists. * ThisTroper's current 2D design professor claims she met Salvador Dali when she was a child. You can add ''True Artists are Incomprehensible''. That, and she could only focus on his mustache. * This troper and her friends draw weird doodles. She particularly gets asked what her weird drawings are. Thing is, she's not telling *sticks tounge out*, so ha. And people have made a game out of guessing what they are. * Not the standard tale, but related; This Troper picked a sculpture by miniature sculptor Willard Wigan for her project. Because his art doesn't have any depth to it and he's still famous because he can make a sculptures literally the size of a speck of dust, most of my time was spent thinking up variations on "There is no meaning. It's just a tiny Homer Simpson," because most of the questions were variations on "What is the meaning of this piece?" * Whenever [[{{Regiment}} this troper]] writes poems, he goes out of his way to avoid this. He has yet to write a poem that has any meaning aside from the extremely obvious and blatantly stated. He steadfastly refuses to write free verse. One might argue that TrueArtIsIncomprehensible is a BerserkButton. * This troper has a tendency to doodle when bored. To her seventhgrade art teacher, these creations are daringly symbolic of inner turmoil, studies in repitition and subtle inversion of modern gender ideals. To everybody else, it's a page full of black and white line drawings of eyes, a bunch of ordinary keys over and over again filled in with watercolor, a skull I doodled after tracing around a quarter with big front teeth, and a painfully skinny clown with a playing card in his mouth. Mmm, hidden meaning. ** This troper bitterly envies you. Her art teacher was convinced that anything she drew had no meaning just by virtue of its being a

cartoon. * Alas, this art major only wishes she could get away with this with such ease. * This troper was painting what was intended as a still life for an when he was tripped by a fast-moving cat and fell face-first into a wet canvas. Since he didn't feel like putting a new one together, he submitted it as is with a dent and a mass of smeared paint shaped like a human forehead, titled it ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin A Physical Manifestation Of The Artist's Frustration]]'', and got an A. ** Maybe they thought it represented a HeadDesk. * [[{{Nomic}} This troper]] once went to a museum of modern art that featured, among other things, a Russian bathroom stall door, some swearing puppets, and a white stone with milk on it. He asked the guide about the symbolism of the stone with milk on it, thinking the whiteness of it might've have something to do with purity or some such stuff. The answer he got was "Oh, it's a stone with milk on it." * [[JethroQWalrustitty This Tropers]] brother workd at an modern art gallery, and we both joke about these works (but also respect the better ones). One time, there was a performance art display at the museum, with the expected oddities. This Troper liked the guy who just kept writing gibberish on a plywood cube with a black marker, and in turn disliked the too obvious work of a guy standing still holding an empty protest placard. As for own work, you know frustrating it is to have someone admire your piece of work, while ''it's upside down''. Mostly TT does surreal and postmodernist stuff, but avoids staight abstract. * [[{{Andrusi}} This troper]]'s brother is currently an art student, and has been berated by his abstract art teacher because, approximate quote, "your trees look like trees." Granted, it's abstract art, but if they're supposed to be ''trees'', one would think that being ''identifiable as trees'' would not be a bad thing. * [[{{Gerusz}} This troper]]'s art teacher had the tendency to give As only for works made five minutes before the class. The best example: this troper had to illustrate a poem and include the poem itself in the illustration. He had a page full of old doodles and sketches and some colored lines. He threw some random kanjis in the top left corner, "translated" it to a dadaist haiku, gave it some title like "Our chaotic world", attributed it to the famous contemporary poet "Bakana Geijutsuno Sensei" ([[spoiler:Stupid Arts Teacher]]) and submitted it. His class had a hard time withholding the laughs as the teacher praised it as the greatest work of arts in that year. He got an A+ and the "work" was displayed as part of the exposition on the walls of the school's corridor. Then this troper's physics teacher who knew some basic Japanese and hated the arts teacher alongside with the contemporary "arts" noticed it and broke off in a maniacal laughter. ** Your school sounds ''awesome''. * [[PotatoBucket This troper]] likes to tell the girl he has a crush on that her favorite singer (Villi Vallo of the band H.I.M.) is a woman. So, one day, he sent her a text message consisting of a TrueArtIsIncomprehensible poem where all the capital letters spelled out "Villi Vallo is a woman". The response he got? "Where's that from?". Following me saying "I made it up", she texts back "That's

neat". She didn't even see my secret message. It's awesome. * This troper is constantly given somewhat moronic interpretive art projects in her english classes, and it is usually a requirement that they are abstract art pieces. One time, this troper was penalized for having a project that was "too abstract." She's pretty sure that that teacher was fired the next year. * This Troper acted in a play in which an apple left on a pedestal by a janitor/aspiring artist was analyzed and critiqued by parodies of movie critics Siskel, Ebert, and Roeper, The Three Stooges, and a lunatic in a trenchcoat (played by yours truly). [[spoiler: Of course, no one realized that the janitor had just left the apple there for his lunch break, and they all left in varying degrees of appreciation before he returned and unceremoniously ate it.]] * At this troper's college, one student's final art project, displayed in the public gallery, was toilet paper. Around fifty rolls of toilet paper, stacked on top of and next to each other. Still in the wrapping. * In This Troper's creative writing classes, most of the pieces that get written are chain-of-consciousness monologues or free verse poems, where as he writes narratives. Guess who gets more praise. I suppose it's easier to find fault with something if you understand it. Also happened in a drawing and painting class, where I was docked points on one of my illustrations (a self-portrait in a cartoony style) because it looked 'too much like The Simpsons'. * This troper's sister entered a Christian fine arts competition under the "sculpture" category. Her submission was a sculpture of a dragon with each scale made individually. It was modeled after a dragon from a book, and looked almost exactly like it. It got an honorable mention. When her sister asked what was wrong with her sculpture and why it did not do well, the only helpful thing the art critic that was there had to give her was something along the lines of, "It didn't have any Biblical significance." What was the piece that won, then, you ask? ...A poorly glued-together, bright red, high-heeled sandal with a block of wood wrapped in nylon sitting in it. ** Oh, come on. The high-heeled sandal ''obviously'' represents [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory Jesus in purgatory]]. *flees* ** The putz said ''[[DidNotDoTheResearch a dragon had no Biblical significance!?]]'' Has this critic ever actually ''read'' [[TheBible Revelation]]? ** Say, was the dragon possibly made from [[CrystalDragonJesus crystal]]? * ThisTroper was assigned to make a poster representing the underlying themes of Shakespeare's ''Macbeth'' for a high school English class; an assignment which he blew off until five minutes before class, when -- [[IndyPloy on a whim]] -- he decided to turn in a blank piece of paper, explaining that it represented the title character's nihilistic world view. The teacher liked it so much that she not only gave it full credit, but also hung it on the wall. * ThisTroper knew an 'appliance sculptor' who had mangled chunks of gadgets around his apartment. Visually interesting, but I asked him what one piece meant. He said, "That's a CD player." He took a small round disc off the front and clamped a CD onto the sculpture with it,

then pressed an unidentifiable button. Music started booming out of two bulky towers on either side of it. Guess it doesn't have to mean anything if it's functional, or if RuleOfCool applies. * The people at the high school that this troper went to, the general preference among students in stories, music, film, and every form of art was SoBadItsGood. I.E. they preferred it to SoCoolItsAwesome. One time, the people in the grade 12 Writer's Craft class had to write a script for the Drama class's end of year play. The winner was a murder mystery with wooden, repetitive dialogue and the culprit's motive never established. When I asked the writer if it was a parody or not he said that it had [[SpringtimeForHitler been deliberately terrible, as he didn't want his writing to be performed]], and that he though that my script was the best. This might make more sense if you know that this was a very small private school, about 50 people total. * This troper's university has an installation art piece consisting of a large (forty-foot by twenty-foot) corregated steel sheet placed at a slant on top of eight steel posts. Most people don't realize that it's art -- they just figure it's something left over from a School of Engineering project. Unlike most incomprehensible art, it does have redeeming value: it makes a dandy rain shelter. * This troper and her ex-fiance once had fun mocking a Jackson Pollack by looking at it from ''the side''. We decided the peaks and valleys of paint spatters looked like moon mountains and were more interesting than the front of the canvas. ** At the same art museum, there was a weird room full of strange objects including but not limited to: some pieces of window glass leaning against a wall, a computer monitor showing a blank white screen, a spotlight turned on a cast iron garden bench, a plumb-bob resting on a silver fruit platter, a four-by-four-by-five-foot wooden beam sticking out of a wall, some computer motherboards in picture frames, and half the floor covered in sand. Add to this, the room was unlit except for some strategically placed spotlights. And it was next to an elevator motor room which lacked sound-proofing; the whine and howl of the motors somehow adding to the weirdness. * At this troper's university, we animation and illustration majors tend to write off the fine arts and studio arts majors as victims of this trope. (We don't feel too bad because they similarly look down on us for actually trying to make money with our work.) This troper likes to inspect new student exhibitions when they go up in the arts building. She genuinely enjoys the few pieces with good design, while chuckling at the pretentiousness of the rest. * I was once in a technology class for high school where we used computers to write music. The stuff I made was basically just a bunch of random notes put together (GOD I hated that class). I told the teacher it was avant-garde or something equally stupid and I got a B. * This troper really loves this trope despite not being an artist. ** This troper was actually introduced to {{Daria}} in Jr. High by having fun with this and TrueArtIsAngsty. One assignment was to give a piece of art that is supposed to represent something and he once took a bunch of prismacolour pencils, scribbled all over the sheet and said it was a post modernist deconstruction of a person trapped in a K-hole while conveniently holding his set of PrismaColour pencils. The

teacher actually gave him a "B+" because she spent a few minutes laughing at the completely random and pretentious title. ** But the best one was when we were supposed to draw art that was to represent a message about society. I drew a person looking like the world was about to end in front of him saying "Life sucks but I am still having more fun divining hidden meanings of this piece than you will enjoying this you phillistine!" and thought of just about ''every'' stereotype for those kinds of artists, including the hat (Which this troper actually wears) and giving him a nice "Phillistine" garb. When asked what it meant by the teacher, he said that it was an interpretation of a modern artist who believes that the only way to truly enjoy art is to analyze hidden meanings and quibble about what it stands for, how it speaks to you and not what it truly is, truly making himself become the phillistine he claims he's not under his artist angsty exterior. The teacher gave him an "A" for such an elaborate description, powerful message, and then introduced him to "Daria", saying that I would get that show a lot. That was perhaps the best art class I ever took. ** A writing class this troper also took in high school asked for a project to which he wrote a completely demented Ranma fanfic that had numerous students laughing at how random it was and the teacher giggling and wondering whether or not I had been secretly putting Hallucinogenic drugs in my microwave Noodle Soup I had for lunch that day. *** Said troper also has a story in the works where at times it's just incomprehensible because the narrator frequently argues with the characters and once refuses to describe what's going on so the characters literally travel a great distance in zero seconds before the narrator asks for them to let it narrate the adventures again. ** This troper also got someone into an art school last year by taking some random items in a grocery store and putting them on the wrong shelf while she drew a (highly detailed) drawing of it. The items? He took an (empty) box of ice cream, set it and a magazine into the turkey cooler next to a box of unwanted Ramen. ** This troper wasn't directly involved in this, but one art he saw involved a pair of hyperactive Chihuahuas running through a puddle of wet paint followed by a bunch of legos and paint brushes thrown onto the paper. IT actually auctioned off for $700 which wasn't that bad for something a sophomore in college did. * On a website I used to frequent, I was part of a group of people who used our user profiles and other such pages as a medium for this. Photographs, quotes, and song lyrics were taken out of context and put alongside parts of an original story so [[MindScrew Mind Screw-ish]] that most of ''us'' didn't completely understand it. Links to other pages in the project were used liberally, and occasionally led to some pretty weird stuff even by our standards. Just as planned, this got the forums talking, with several people seeming to think that maybe this was some weird conspiracy or something equally ludicrous. I remember the girl who started it once explaining to me that it didn't mean much of anything at all, and she started doing it as a sort of experiment, to see if people would try to find meaning in something just because they couldn't understand it. And it worked even better

than she expected. * Anyone who can tell [[AuntZelda this troper]] the name of the artist of a certain ... SOLID BLUE PAINTED CANVAS in the Modern Art section of the Met will have her undying gratitude. If she goes back and gets a closer look at the plaque, she's pretty sure she'll lose control and start ripping the thing to shreds. She STRONGLY believes that something like ... THAT ... has no business being in the same building as a van Gogh. Sometimes, Modern 'Art' makes her very, very angry indeed. ** For this very reason, that is [[{{starshine}} this troper]]'s favorite painting in the met. It's even called Blue Panel! ** The artist is Yves Klein if I recall correctly. Have fun. * [[GalenDev This Troper]] is a Gun Nut. One of his favorite hobbies is going to the Firing Range and either trying to improve his scores with his preferred calibers, or trying something new. At his current job, he tends to hang recent target sheets on the wall of an office to contemplate how he can improve. One time, an Intern walked into his office, and stared at the hung target sheet. --> Intern: Wow, Mr. (Last Name Omitted), this must mean the inability of man to wish to damage another, right? --> Me: No, it means I shot a two-sixty on a five hundred course with an unfamiliar weapon, and I obviously need improvement. --> Intern: I mean, it just speaks to the soul! The way the heart is unpierced. --> (At this point I didn't know if he was making fun of me or not) Me: You do realize I did that at the firing range three days ago, right? --> Intern: You did this! You're a real artist! --> Me: Get out! ** Since then... I have not hung a single target sheet in my office. That intern no longer works with us, and while This Troper wishes he had something to do with that... sadly, I didn't. * I had to write a myth of some sorts, but because my family would [[StopHelpingMe never leave the room]] I was doing the thing in, I had to rush it when they were gone. So I wrote some thing about a person who had a lot of changes, alternated between calling the person him and her, and threw in a meaning as an afterthought. My teacher loved it. * I made this [[http://hogofthefuture.deviantart.com/art/Mind-Screw144872864 this]] for fun. I then decided to put it up so people can analyse it, because I sure can't figure it out. * Both of this troper's art professors routinely avert this trope. Mostly because they're more interested in the construction than some crazy symbolic hidden meaning reading. In short. We can usually get away with crazy projects under little more justification than the Rule of Cool * This troper had a very frustrating art class one year. Her professor could explain what he wanted you to draw four times, and still not make any sense. Well, one assignment we had was to, from what this troper could gather, draw a series of three pictures: a self-portrait, a drawing of something representing your dreams or hobbies or something similar, and a final, GIANT picture of a combination of the

two. So... she drew the self-portrait, and, since she's an artist and a writer, drew her sketchbook (with pictures of her characters in it) and notebook (with one of her stories in it) for the "hobbies/dreams" part. For the third and final picture, she decided to be clever and drew herself holding her sketchbook open as various characters crawled out, starting as sketches and slowly becoming real things as they left the sketchbook; the notebook was on the floor, too, with characters crawling out of that, slowly turning from words describing the characters to the characters themselves. She was very proud of this, but when she turned it in to her professor, he stared at it blankly and asked what on earth the third picture had to do with the other two. Turned out that he wanted the third picture to LITERALLY combine the first two--basically taking random elements from the first two pictures and mish-mashing them in a totally nonsensical way. She never understood that professor. * Being a music major means being subjected to a lot of this. Let's just say that the so-called Second Viennese School (Schoenberg, Webern, Berg) and other musical developments that caused such a stir (with loads of both praise and backlash) in the first half of the tentieth century are considered ''conservative'' compared to what's out there now. Moreover, professors of composition can be highly adamant about the only worthy ideas being the newest ones. Yet to every listener who's not an "expert"... * All in this page is a Mona Lisa compared to what I did on my art class. I was joking aaround with my friends and decided to create the most stupid art piece ever, I drew [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs Obama riding a unicorn, throwing rainbows from his eyes and hitting Hitler in the balls with a pair of chainsaw-nunchucks made of fire as Jesus says WHAT THE FUCK in the background.]] Needless to say, I won the contest. What I wasnt expecting was my teacher seeing it and deducting it meant how stupidity and ignorance could beat evil easier and intelligence and good. I got an A+. ** You sir, get a [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome CMOA]]. * I'm taking art and I know I'm crap because I'm sixteen and I can't draw realistically; meanwhile, there's a four-year-old who outsketches the old masters in London. I constantly wonder why I get more attention from the people around me when there are others who can draw ''much'' better and deserve ''so much'' more. Then again, I don't draw for art. I design cartoon characters. I make comics. When I'm older I'll go into animation. I don't draw to replicate real life, I draw because I can communicate through it and because I can make people (barring haughty old art critics) happy through it and because it's ''fun''. * While I have no personal examples to contribute here, there is one thing I can say: Thanks to this page and all the examples, I guess I will never have problems in any arts class again. If other people can get away with this kind of stuff, I can too. It is important though that we never let an arts teacher, professor or the like see this page. * [[{{Joeyjojo}} This Troper]] finds that [[{{Hatedom}} people]] [[{{understatement}} can be bit unreasonable]] [[PetPeeveTrope about this]]. When on a school field trip to an art galley a man started

ranting how an abstract piece wasn't TrueArt. When I defended it his rebuttal was to ''punch me square in the face''. * At [[JapaneseTeeth This Troper's]] college, an art student put together some sort of "sculpture" that was essentially an odd-shaped and multicolored plywood shed, with a ladder sticking off the top of it, holding up a tv. Nobody is sure what the point is supposed to be, and the school paper actually ran an article mocking it, suggesting possible uses for it, which included "frisbee golf hole" and "place to sleep if you get locked out of your dorm". Needless to say, there are maybe 3 people on the entire campus actually care about the thing. * In her senior year of high school, this Troper was in an art class taught by a student teacher with only the loosest grasp on human proportion and linear perspective. The class was split into equal parts pretentiousness and glorified macaroni art. This troper simply handed in a different 'sketch I was doing anyway' for an entire year while she sat in the corner and quietly tried to teach herself how to use oil paint and watercolors, and was nearly driven to tears by the teachers unhelpfulness. Finally, for our final project, we were assigned to 'make a self portrait showing our true selves, not necessarily the outer one'. I took a picture of myself with a webcam, ran some grunge brushes and Photoshop filters on it, and scribbled a rather cynical, blunt description of myself on it in Sharpie. The teacher thought I was brilliant and gave me an A. I chewed her out as soon as I knew final grades had been submitted, and have never been more pleased to get in trouble. * Meta-example: This troper's sister (a musician) was studying in the Fine Arts building at her university one day, when someone else in the room got frustrated with a broken chair he'd been fiddling with/attempting to sit on, dramatically overturned it in the middle of the room, and loudly declared "This chair is ''art'' now because it's ''useless''!" * Subverted by this troper, majoring in art in highscool for four years. It was accepted there that you either present a work that you putt alot of thought into, is loved by fellow students and teachers alike, and all your friends and family members who have no interest in art will regard as this trope, or you can paint a pretty vase and get the opposite reaction. (except when your work is so bad no one likes it) After many works in both categories over the years, This Troper finally had an idea he deemed worthy for a final project which counts for a lot of your grade, and is presented in an exhibition which attracts about a thousand visitors each year (for 40~ students presenting. It's a very highly regarded school). The work he though of was close to minimalystic, with some features of [not going to bore you with it right now], and far from any pretty vase. It was also all black. (an an 11 foot tall statue, which you walk through) Based on that, he only hoped the work will be liked by peers (no even sure on that, mainly did what he did because he was passionate about it), and assumed most of the people he knows will regard it as this trope. When the exhibition opened, and that was one of a very few works praised both by people who take this trope seriously and by "vase people", it felt [[BeyondTheImpossible beyond the impossible]]. * I remember, while visiting an art museum in Pennsylvania (can't

remember the name), seeing one room that had 8 works up on the walls. The exhibit claimed that they were an artists depiction of the 8 stages of TheOdyssey. My thoughts? A 3 year old had simultaneous access to several crayon packs and 8 canvases. * Subversion: this troper went to a modern art museum and liked it a lot. * This Troper was hustled out of an art gallery once - there was a move afoot to repair a skylight in one of the rooms, and this particular Troper thought it seemed like a good idea to put a label on the ladder and the pile of tools left behind. People were admiring it, too... * Now, I've been called "artsy", for some reason unbeknown to me. Seriously, I can [[DoujinWork draw a face at standard 3/4 angle]], but like hell if I can make anything cool looking. Still, it's a label, and one that gets me dragged ''strange'' places (and also has given me some sort of Freudian hatred for overly used simple adjectives). For a nifty little course titled "Arts in the Cities", I got to go to all sorts of strange places and write reports about them. One of 'em, what was it, Franconia Sculpture Park or something? An hour drive to make it to...a park-sized lot with metal pipes randomly welded going up to the sky, a chain-fence mini-labrynth, and a barn made out to be what might only be a scene from Moonwalker, among others. Protip: when you can see the interstate from your "Sculpture Park", you're less than reputable. Though there was this delightful diner, ''The Dam Bistro'', my god, we had an eggplant sandwich and some chicken that was godly, as well as delicious fresh bistro chips. Wait, where am I going? Why, that's right! You want an uncomfortable story, too? For another project, I needed to go see an indie movie instead of an entertaining blockbuster. So there's one not too far away, and for this trip my mom decided to come with because she thought it might not be that bad. Have some abrupt points; they carded us to get in; grown woman heavier than me; five minutes of her siting around in a bathroom to bad music; ''she has nothing on but a see-through-nighty''. Yes, ''those things actually exist.'' [[BrainBleach God dammit, they exist.]] I'm pretty sure it's one of the few NoodleIncident I have. * Last year, this troper attended a film night at his high school as part of a bid to get into Film class, and had to sit through a pretentious half-hour of crap called "Hopscotch." It was filmed mostly in black and white, but with a few flashbacks done in oversaturated color. (The director probably thought she was subverting something with that.) There was no dialogue, and the plot was deliberately unclear and dragging, with some "minimalist" music playing over everything that kept on getting slower and slower, until it reached the credits, by which point it was SO SLOW that they had to hold each name in the credits for about five seconds just to stall for time (and feed their egos, I suppose). Even after the credits themselves were done, they held for about ten seconds on a black screen, waiting for the final note. And the worst part? The entire movie was nothing but a bunch of indie kids playing hopscotch with solemn expressions. * This troper has a joke with his dad that one could make modern art "by getting an insect to dip it's feet into a bottle of ink and have it run across the page." His friend agreed with it (and the friend

took an Art A-level)! * My younger brother is taking Art 'O' Levels, and his examination piece is an abstract painting on the theme "bridges". He painted a beautiful piece that looks like something out of the Pandora forest of ''{{Avatar}}'', and displayed marvellous technique such as understandings of perspective, light, shading and so on. All in all, it's about just as pretty as if someone went to paint scenery of a mountain or a sunset - except (due to the abstract nature of the formations and structures he had painted), he didn't know how he was going to orientate the painting when he was done. * [[@/SoWeAteThem I]] started listening to TheResidents at age 14, and it shows. I have all manner of weird things from all over, ranging from plunderphonic comedy rock to [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly glitch-shoegaze-prog-rock-metal-acid-math-rock-noise-jazz with accordions]] to [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the odd Spanish Noise CD.]] I don't have much unconventional art of my own; I'm not in a band, and my voice recorder ate itself a few months back. * In high school, we had an art show. Despite the many good and genuinely creative entries that depicted a number of subjects on many different mediums, the art teacher (who'd also appointed himself head judge of the show) selected a piece from one of his favorite students, that was literally no more than a single splash of black paint in the middle of a canvas to be the winner. The girl who made it claimed it represented "life." * According to the professor of a course I dropped, the poem "The Passionate Shepherd to His Love" is a dark and angsty pastoral symbolizing... yeah. I got in trouble for pointing out that it's a poem about a guy trying to get under a girl's skirts. * Subverted by this troper, who decided to test whether her English teacher would fall for pseudointellectual gibberish or not and turned in a rambling, nonsensical essay. Her teacher's remark? Something to the effect of "good points, but structure needs work". In other words, I probably would have gotten top marks (for, mind you, babbling) if I'd bothered to put in things like paragraphs and an overarching structure. * This troper loves abstract and modern art, mainly because it's ''so fun'' to watch people freak out about how non-art it is. I remember reading somewhere (perhaps on this very site) that "If you have to ask whether or not it's art, then it's art." I agree fully. * [[Tropers/{{JHM}} This Troper]] kind of ''lives'' for this. I'm a huge fan of abstract and weird visual and performance art, as well as oddball experimental film and music. But sometimes... It's just pointless. And boring. For example, one of my friends made a short film for our local high-school film festival. Initially, I had collaborated with him on the idea, writing in what I thought was a fairly amusing subplot with a bit of a HeavyMeta edge, plus a reasonably fun self-effacing GainaxEnding. Unfortunately, due to time constraints, as well as the progressive disillusionment of the actors involved, 90% of said subplot - ''especially'' the parts that made it comprehensible and interesting - were removed, resulting in a film that oscillated between a weak (and weird) romance plot and bizarre interludes involving a girl reading a book. It made no sense

whatsoever. Granted, it ''kind of'' worked at points - the soundtrack was good, and there are two brilliant {{One Scene Wonder}}s (one of which [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs was played, without our knowledge, totally stoned]]) - but "kind of" doesn't exactly cut it... * In my hometown, the city council once spent a lot of money sticking huge black marble obelisks around the city centre in an effort to gentrify the neighbourhood or something. The obelisks clash very badly with the colourful, busy streets. They strongly resemble a bunch of five-metre-tall tent pegs. They don't do anything except look faintly sinister. There's no plaque or anything suggesting they might have meaning (or an artist) behind them. There's an extremely sharp contrast between the ridiculous black marble things and the beautiful Indigenous art installation outside one of the inner-city galleries. The council's never really lived it down, but they're good for cheap laughs. ** I remember somewhere a city did a dedication to 2001: A space odyssey, by placing stone obelisks around the city. Maybe you're referring to that... *** Not ''my'' town. Anyway, they don't resemble the Monolith; they're square and leaning, not oblong and perfectly vertical. * IMO, this trope exists for a couple of reasons. One, the art world is so insular that it is impossible to understand certain famous modern art pieces without knowing the specific moment in time they were made, what they were reacting to in the art world, or the then current artistic traditions, especially as the art world is (again) purporting that there is no longer anything original, and that all art is a reaction or recreation of something. Two, people outside of the art world have been given a very, very specific idea of what art is, focusing generally on aesthetic beauty and technique, which usually begins and ends with the Mona Lisa, a painting that very few of them will ever actually experience and is around 600 years old. This is further compounded by the fact that the art world is incredibly resistant to giving any kind of context for the art that they choose to laud, making it impossible for someone who wanders into MOMA to begin to understand the work they'll see there, or even have the kind of skill set that the art world and critics have arbitrarily created to sift the bullshit from the actual talent. In short, it's like a walking into a theater expecting Inception and getting [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_Water_Baby_Moving Window Water Baby Moving]]. It's all art, but one is way less accessible due to a whole lot of critic nonsense and also a lack of availability for those who don't go out of their way to see the kind of work that the latter represents. For those of us, like me, that really appreciate modern and avant garde work, it's pretty easily summed up by my film professor's Universal Studios mug - his parents gave it to him when he was in film school, and it is the perfect representation of the difference between what they thought he was doing and what he was actually doing. * This troper once found [[http://insanityinside.deviantart.com/gallery/6186272#/d2pjg5e half a slightly mouldy cabbage]] in the pantry and decided that it is now a work of art called ''Life, Death and Cabbage''. [[SubvertedTrope Nobody else

seemed convinced.]] * This troper once had an obsession with postmodern literature, including Thomas Pynchon in particular. It was during this phase that I took a class in creative writing, in the hope that the class would push me to exercise my untested writing capabilities. Did it ever. Most of the stories and plays that I wrote were done in a frantic rush to keep up with deadlines. The consequence was that they had little plot and a lot of hasty metafictional twists and abstract dialogues bound by a high-concept philosophy of which I had a semi-knowledge of their meaning. In the end, I received an award for having the highest marks in that class. * This troper believes that this trope is the reason why he keeps getting satisfactory grades for his (terribly-made) art projects. * Lucky for me, my school's art classes generally avoid this trope: my painting teacher explictly told students NOT to do incomprehensible art for a project, and to try and draw people and objects realistically. Also, I have a weird inversion from my Sophomore English class, where we frequently did artsy stuff: For a project we were given a list of words and had to write a poem using the words. I wrote a poem about sentient inanimate objects talking about existence and dreams where pretty much every line is a meaningless WordSalad: my teacher actually compared it to Lewis Carroll's 'The Jabberwocky'. However, because of my reputation as a 'weird kid', no one asked me if it meant anything or if it represented anything. And, if I can gloat for a minute, my silly surreal poem actually was better than most of the realistic poems. That said, I'm a big fan of surrealism, Dada, performance art, and SOME pieces of modern art, but I don't like it because of how 'meaningful' it is and I hate when people make it to be 'meaningful'. I just like it 'cause it's weird and awesome. * Most of this troper and his friend's art. Of course, not all of my friends agree with me. * This troper went to a few modern art museum, including California's LACMA contemporary art museum. Some of the exhibits were pretty awesome (seriously who doesn't think a dead shark suspended in a giant container of formaldehyde isn't cool? http://iowasthinking.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/how-lady-gaga-explainscontemporary-art-pt-1-of-2/), and thoughtful (a giant display of trash an artist's compulsive hoarding mother never threw away during the Chinese Revolution when basic necessities were scarce http://trendland.net/2009/07/15/waste-not-art-installation-by-songdong/ - though {{YMMV). On the other hand the bunch of large Kellog's cereal boxes stacked on top of each other http://mercurypress.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Broad-ContemporaryArt-Museum-at-LACMA/G0000tJoDBg4FYnY/I0000dCjKj8DYHVs, three basketballs floating in an aquarium http://mercurypress.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Broad-ContemporaryArt-Museum-at-LACMA/G0000tJoDBg4FYnY/I0000MMyAv4ESaoo, and a floaty wedged between a medal ladder http://mercurypress.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Broad-ContemporaryArt-Museum-at-LACMA/G0000tJoDBg4FYnY/I00000kygiSDyqps was just plain lazy

---Fnee! Fneeee! We are all flies! Fly back to TrueArtIsIncomprehensible on your tear-stained wings of misunderstanding and plasma! Dance! Dance the wiggy spiral! I am the lemon! Are you the lemon police!? * I... have a lemon ice pop... in a bobby's hat. * [[PortalTwo I will use you to burn down Life's house.]] * I am the one they call Agent Yellow, guess why. ** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint You can knock out water-borne monsters]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Host_%28film%29#Plot born from toxins dumped into rivers?]] ---<<|TroperTales|>> And now for our next piece. We call this one "Starlight Coaster #7":

TrueArtIsOffensive * This troper, who's doing a creative writing course, has a classmate that thinks along these lines. What's more, he thinks that he gets low marks because the teachers are too conservative to appreciate his art, despite their attempts to explain that a man offering the severed foot of a dead baby to the emergency services is an image, but not a ''story''. -- Tropers/{{Bronzethumb}} * I'm afraid I may be falling into this, I was flipping through my sketchbook and saw that I had several drawings in a row that consisted of things like a naked woman leaping off a cliff, another naked woman chained to a gravestone, a woman wearing nothing but a loincloth and war paint and holding a broken spear, and yet another woman wearing absolutely nothing but covering her...lower bits with a fan of peacock feathers.

TrueArtSticksItToTheMan * Some of [[@/{{endlessness}} this troper's]] friends think exactly that: ALL art has a political, anti-capitalist meaning behind.

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TruffautWasRight * I have been told not to browse the imageboard that must not be named a gazillion of times. It's not that bad. * I wrote a fic based on Lolita once to deconstruct lolicon-and received a message from someone who obviously had never read the novel asking if ''I'' had ever read it, and that the book promoted lolicon and Dolores was the villain who killed her mom or something. ''Where'' did that come from?? Oh...this trope in action. * This troper, during high school, had to watch a video in Health class about LSD, which, surprisingly enough, ''wasn't'' an Anvilicious

Main/DrugsAreBad story. It talked about the history of the drug, and how it initially seemed to be something useful but it was soon discovered that it often had bad side effects. After it was over, his classmates were talking about how appealing the film had made taking LSD seem. ** Similarly, this troper had to write a report on a drug of choice and its affects. She chose Magic Mushrooms, and through research found how interesting it seemed to take. In fact, not even {{Mother 3}}'s [[MushroomSamba Tanetane Island]] has put a dampener on this desire. ** This troper, having "health" as a required course from middle school through 10th grade, had it mostly from a few teachers that were clearly old enough to have been... uh... [[HippieTeacher flower children]]... and probably... well, they discussed the effects of some drugs in [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial suspiciously]] accurate, yet, loopily-presented detail. * This troper absolutely loves ''All Quiet on the Western Front'' - it was one of two books she was supposed to read for school that she liked (the other being ''Macbeth'') - and, having read it, became even more amoral and fascinated by war. * This troper, although she found them effectively horrifying, did notice that the illustrations of the horrible event the heroes have failed to stop in {{Watchmen}} are clearly the images the artist spent the most work on out of the whole comic. There are some other impressive images, but those are the best-composed, the most detailed by far, and the largest-- there are no other full-page spreads in the entire comic. It almost makes it seem as if the TruffautWasRight aspect is intentional. ** Maybe not the TruffautWasRight being intentional, but those pages ''are'' supposed to be the most affecting pages- if you go through the previous pages, all of the panels are on a strict grid. The last few pages break most of the conventions of the rest of the book so that you subconsciously feel it as well as consciously read it. * I was watching GraveOfTheFireflies once on TV, AsYouKnow the biggest aversion of this trope [[TearJerker E]][[WarIsHell V]][[HighOctaneNightmareFuel E]][[DespairEventHorizon R]], when my Dad went over to watch. He didn't see what was so sad about it and quickly changed the channel to watch something that counteracts the message of the film. [[FlatWhat What]] * I gotta confess: playing through the No More Heroes games, I know that it's showing Travis as a loser, the assassins as wasting their lives, the monstrosity of using death as a cheap tool in entertainmet, and I get all that, I understand it. And yet, somewhere between the Henry fight and the aquisition of the Rose Nasty beam katana, Travis became head of my personal badass list, and now I really, ''REALLY'' want a lightsabre. ** It's always been my assumption that this was intentional, but then again, it's SUDA 51, so who knows? ** It's one part Enforced and one part SpoofAesop: The main villain of Desperate Struggle is...a bald midget with a squeaky voice. Instead of giving us a cool, evil son of a bitch, we got a guy who normally you'd probably feel sorry for. But of course, this is SUDA, so every single aspect is tongue-in-cheek. Even then, it's not the ''revenge'' that

makes Travis cool: it's that he's ''fucking cool''. * This editor enjoys playing ''{{Iji}}'' as a {{Beyond The Impossible}} {{Crazy Awesome}} run-and-gun with the explosions and weaponry being over-the-top, rather than looking at it as a {{War Is Hell}}-themed {{Deconstruction}}. In fact, when [[spoiler:Iosa killed all the last remenants of the Tasen]], my first thought was "I wanted to do that!". [[{{Im Going To Hell For This}} I'm going to hell for that]]. Also, I consider Iji yelling "Shut up!" at Tor as he accuses her of hypocricy to be her CrowningMomentOfAwesome - I blame ''GurrenLagann'', ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWA and all that. ** Also, I ''desperately'' wish I could play [[{{Homestuck}} FLARP]] and I think Alternia would be a cool place to live. * Lampshaded in JackMackerel's anime script for a bunch of rag-tag super-soldiers, mercenaries, assassins, and regular grunts killing bad people: Several soldiers (including several normal soldiers that aren't equipped with cutting edge tech) get into an argument over ApocalypseNow. ** Also, I may be somewhat anti-war, but ''God help me I love shooting terrorists in vidya gaems.'' * In middle school I read a book about a girl who (in addition to being bulimic, which was the main plot) was a shoplifter. The book gave a number of tips on how not to get caught stealing. She eventually did, I think, and the whole point of the book was how this girl had completely fucked up her life, but it was still kind of... tempting. ** Ohh, I read that one too! It was actually okay. But, now I see things in stores and know how to get them out. ([[SincerityMode Not that I actually do it, I just, know.]]) ** A while back, there was an episode of one talkshow, I believe it was the Today Show, that was about shoplifting and how it could be prevented. They did this by bringing in an ex-shoplifter, who showed all these methods that shoplifters use to get away with what they do; including slipping the items in their sleeves and pant legs, as well as lining a shopping bag with lead or alluminum foil or something so the store alarm wouldn't go off as they brought a stolen item through the door. So... yeah. * In my high school, there are several posters on the walls saying "95% of athletes at this school are drug-free!". This reminds me of the other anti-drug ads that tell you NOT to do drugs because everyone else is doing them. Those ads alone are kind of a TruffautWasRight kind of thing because they're saying "Be who you are, don't do what others say", and then it backfires because it's saying "Be who you are, don't do what others say, just do what WE say". My school's ads, though... Some people, especially rebellious teenagers, will sometimes go out of their way NOT to conform. * This Troper's dad recalls some old anti-cigarette ads that would say "Kids, don't smoke. Smoking is for adults". And what the kids hear? "Smoking is for adults, not kids. If you want to be an adult, smoke!". This can also probably apply to a lot of sex ed programs that tell teenagers "sex is for mature adults ONLY". * This troper had to watch SuperSizeMe in her high school biology class. Afterwards, always we could talk about is how we were craving

[=McDonald=]'s like never before. Even thinking back to it makes me want a giant pack of French fries. ** {{YMMV}}. This troper had eaten at Burger King before watching the movie. Afterwards, she puked it all out again (not intentionally, she just felt sick!) * People protesting how offensive EvelynEvelyn was made me ''more'' keen to listen to them. * This troper follows Eat This, Not That! on Twitter, and often finds that when they mention what not to eat, it makes this troper say "That actually sounds pretty good right about now..." ---You'll go back to TruffautWasRight because it looks cool. ----

TrustBuildingBlunder [[AC:RealLife]] * ThisTroper went to "Ropes Course" as a young homeschooler... probably early teens. The "fall back and let them catch you" bit was fun because there was a whole group of people doing the catching maybe 15 of us. You climbed up onto a short platform and fell backward into the hands of the group. Worked fine until this one guy, who was a little larger and heavier than the rest of us (the big-boned type, like the captain in ''The Sea Wolf'') tried. We dropped him. I vaguely recall not trying my hardest to catch him... guess fear played a role here. Luckily, he was winded but okay. ** This troper has a somewhat similar experience back as a teen when he was very self-conscious about putting on the infamous "Freshman Fifteen" but hid the fat well. This troper was genuinely scared about both the trust issue and simply weighing too much to catch, but they convinced him to fall backwards, and when they caught him fine and dandy, he and everyone else laughed with audible relief. ''Then'', someone puffed out, "Damn, you're a lot heavier than I thought!" * This troper was taking part in a Drama Soc trust exercise at university when the guy behind her said, clearly audible, "What if I just walked away?" Cue indignant glaring from this troper and a patient reminder from the group leader that the idea was to foster ''trust''. * This troper once had to do some of these exercises as part of a class activity in high school, including a "Trust Walk" where everyone was randomly paired up, and one person in each pair was blindfolded while the other talked the first through a course, switching roles halfway through. This troper was a bit taller than the pairs that were immediately in front of him in the course. This troper's partner said "Duck!" a little too late. The rest should be pretty self-explanatory. * This troper's class did a variant on the trust walk while she was in 8th grade. She had to be blindfolded with her fellow 8th graders, then each 8th grader was paired up with a 6th grader and a 7th grader. The 6th graders were not allowed to talk, and the 7th graders were not allowed to use their arms to guide the blindfolded 8th grader. We then did a snowshoe hike up a mountain. This troper's team managed to give such poor directions that she walked off a ledge, slid about 20 feet

headfirst down a snowy incline, and narrowly avoided hitting several trees on the way down. Troper was angry. * Tropers/RedWren's show choir in middle school included, as one of the dance moves, the classic "fall back and catch" variant (the song was about trust or holding people up or something). Amusingly, the person falling ''back'' was fine...but the person ''[[InvertedTrope catching]]'' fell into something. No one was hurt, though, just a stumble. * [[Tropers/DeltaOne This Troper]]'s friend persuaded him to come along on a young-offender's camp. We started with the "fall-and-catch" trust exercise that seems so popular - until one kid decided it's be [[HilarityEnsues hilarious]] to not fall back, but leap backwards. He totally overshot the group waiting to catch him and managed to give himself one hell of a concussion. * Two of [[Tropers/JET73L this troper]]'s three or so main phobias are falling (falling itself, not heights or anything) and EyeScream. The troper's summer gym teacher thought it would be a good idea to have people fall forward instead of backward, and one of the people catching had a two-foot spiked mohawk. The troper ended up (after ''much'' hesitation) twisting face-up like a cat in reverse, and was catatonic for at the very least several seconds before breaking into panicked laughter. Nobody got injured, fortunately, but marks were taken off. ---This goes back to TrustBuildingBlunder, trust me. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TrustPassword * Um, not that this troper has committed one of these to memory just in case she ever winds up traveling back in time to meet her past self, or anything... ** [[TheTubstar This troper]] does. In fact, it consists of a rather large number of facts about myself that, should I ever end up back in the past somehow, I can simply seek myself off, rattle off a few facts, and get past me to believe future me. Why focus on me though? Because I'm probably the only person I know who would believe me if someone looked like me claimed to come from the future and could list things only I knew... ** This Troper has one prepared- you just [[CrazyPrepared never know]]. ** As has been pointed out on the Internet many times, this plan is flawed -- a better plan would be to not have any password at all, and to *make one up* in your head the moment you meet your time-traveling future self. After all, your future self, being from the future, will have plenty of time to memorize the phrase you made up on that climactic day you met yourself from the future. (This may or may not work depending on what time travel theory you subscribe to, and in particular will fail if travelling to the past creates an alternate timeline that branches off when you get there.)

*** The problem with this approach is that it only works if all time travel is [[StableTimeLoop]]s. If time travel causes you to end up in an alternate universe or something, then Past You who is being visited by time travelers is not the same person as Future You who is doing the visiting, so Future You wouldn't have the same memories? *** This alternative also has two flaws: the one you pointed out, and the fact that you have to memorize something you came up with on the spot, even if the person you're talking to doesn't guess it (of course they won't guess it if you don't have it memorized). You also have no incentive to memorize it, because you know that if that really was you, you'll end up forgetting the password anyway. ** Of course it'll work. One of the things QM and GR agree on is the [[StableTimeLoop Novikov self-consistency principle]]. But a password could just mean you're dealing with a telepath. Set them an unlikely task they would have had to prepare for in advance. That still only proves they're a time-traveller or precognitive or controlling your mind, but if any of those is bent on stealing your identity, you're screwed anyway. Unless, perhaps, [[HoldingBackThePhlebotinum their powers are unreliable]]. *** A telepath wouldn't need to impersonate you. They would only need to pretend to be a normal, non-mind-reading person, who you don't need to watch your thoughts around. *** Of course, one could always prepare a zany stunt that only you could think of (such as something related to the carbon dioxide purifying crystals that appeared in Jules' Verne's From the Earth to the Moon novel), and demonstrate that you are, indeed, yourself, by pulling it off. Much more effective than a simple password, since it should (theoretically), be much harder to plumb a memorized plan that you're not thinking of out of your memory than a password. *** Not necessarily. Depending on the form of telepathy, it could be that "impulses" (such as understanding said plan in one burst of thought) could be easier to handle, whereas taking more specific details such as a date, name, or specific word would be more difficult. It can be easier to think in ideas than in words, so why wouldn't it be easier to hear ideas than words? ** This troper has a simple but unique phrase (containing nonexistent words) that is never used for anything or written down anywhere as her time travel password. Unlike a list of personal facts, a crazy prepared manipulator couldn't possibly research it (or even guess it since there's no prompt -- future me would be expected to offer it spontaneously) unless they had mindreading abilities, which isn't really something we can prepare against. *** Tinfoil hats. Think about it. ** [[TriggerLoaded This Troper,]] after reading the above, has one possible plan to foil mind-readers. The password will be a math problem. So what I'm thinking of when I ask for the password is the problem. The key is, I'm looking not for the problem, but for the answer. Admittedly fairly simple, and powerful telepaths probably wouldn't have a problem bypassing, but it's something... *** It's better than you think. Make a semiprime that takes a year to factor, and change it every day. Change the scale depending on how easy you want it to be for your future self to get the answer, and how

hard for anyone else. If someone has a botnet, they'd be able to brute force it thousands of times faster. Of course, this can be pretty much bypassed by hacking your computer. You need a problem where someone can't hide the fact that they knew an answer when they made the problem. You're unlikely to find a psychic with a botnet, but anyone with a botnet will be a hacker, and you'd need a computer to do this right. * This troper had a special phrase that was to be said when picked up. If that person didn't know it, he would yell for the authorities. Obviously, people ''do'' forget sometimes, so... * This Tropette has two. One is a series of bizarre questions that her friends know the answer to. If someone claiming to be me comes up to them, they are supposed to ask the questions to ensure that it's me. The other is [[Watchmen Rorschach,]] which is just a default password. I mostly use it when locking people out of buildings. They have to say it to be let back in. * It's generally a good idea for parents and children to have secret passwords worked out in case the parent needs to send somebody to pick the child up. * If you ever encounter this troper, simply say the word "Schnickerponch". He'll know you're either a troper or a high-school friend. (If you're curious, it comes from a vaguely [[TheGoonShow Goon-esque]] script this troper and his sister wrote back then). ** What do you look like? * Not only does [[{{Dinru}} this troper]] have some in place for herself and [[{{Nakama}} a few close friends]], but she has a few ''red herring'' ones that she tells people "secretly", so that she can tell if someone's impersonating her. [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything The]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Dinru]] [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything thinks of everything!]] * Wonderland Online name is VOICE. If you ever see me, whisper me and say: VOICE is a tsundere and loves eCS. * This troper and two of her friends have one that was only made up recently, just so that we can recognise each other if something happens or something. It is a question: 'What do ladders in London wear?' No, I'm not telling you the answer. * This troper has one with a group of...er...they're more assets than friends, but the point is that we have one. * Your better off with a time-traveling object that you show the person than a phrase. Or better yet, if it is a telepath your dealing with, carry a deck of cards on you and draw one at random ''without looking at it.'' Then ask him or her what it is. Have future you carry around the deck for double security. * This troper has an exact plan for proving the existsence of time travel to himself. He will only believe someone claiming to be him or his representitive if they have either carried out this plan or, at least, know what it is. * I dont have these for myself in regards to timetravel, since I find the best way to do that would probably be to... act like myself. You can't fake being you, not really. And if you can you could have gotten the question and answer anyway. I do have trust passwords for friends,

both for timetravel and the 'I'm being blackmailed/held hostage. Please help!' situation that is more likely to happen. * [[DeltaOne This Troper]] and his friends had a whole sequence of these, usually in pairs. One for "It's me," and one for "It's me, but I've been compromised/people are listening." This led to phone conversations that started with the "authentication phase" getting very strange looks, going something like: --> "I've set my trousers on fire and I think there's a ferret in my socks." --> "Really? Then you should know that I've painted my bottom blue and joined a travelling freakshow." * [[DatabaseError This Troper]] had one that just sort of came out of nowhere: While involved in an hours-long prank involving the impersonation of an acquaintance's instant messenger profile, I logged unknowingly started a chat with one of my accomplices who, just seconds before, was talking with the now-offline impersonated party. My accomplice had no idea it was me, and was being incredibly vague in any details so as not to blow my cover, until I said "Blimey" or something like it. Backstory: Earlier that afternoon, while the impersonated party was not present, I had apparently said something that sounded stereotypically British, despite my being an American. * This Troper, after reading this page, now has one, which consists of two facial gestures that would be extremely difficult to guess at. * [[SkyBlue This troper]] has thought about this, and figures why bother with picking a specific time-travel password? I work on computers for a living, so I have lots of accounts with lots of different passwords, which I treat with different levels of paranoia. Some are for accounts I don't care about (e.g., websites that don't use crypto in their login pages, so anyone at several ISP's can read your password as it travels in plaintext through a dozen different Internet relay "hops"), and some I treat with very high security (I never tell ''anyone'' what they are, I never let them travel in plaintext across the Internet, and so on). If I had to convince my younger self that I was the real thing, I'd just start reciting my computer passwords, starting with the most secure ones. That would prove that I was either: a) future me, or b) a spy who knew my every secret and could use them to blackmail me any time he chose. And either way, it'd be smart to do what this person is saying to do. * This troper refuses to make one, on the grounds that someone could easily interrogate him. He also knows that he wouldn't trust anyone claiming to be himself anyway. * Call [[@/{{MiraShio}} me]] Ninja, and you're cleared. * This Troper doesn't bother. A code phrase or a password can be read by a telepath. A task may take a while to perform - and if someone from the future contacts me and it's urgent, they won't have time to play stupid games, they'll have to convince me fast. And if they have plenty of time, they will find a way to convince me. Honestly - the only thing that I will need to convince my past self that I'm me is mention a few things about myself. For an extra bonus, I know myself enough to know what sort of facts I would pick as an example. A psychic from the future or other fake "me", or just someone who knows a lot about me would be able to get the facts right, but would likely

provide examples that are not my first choice. Plus, if I don't come up with anything specific, it can't be pulled out of my memory or I can't be forced to confess. Overthinking a plan can be a very bad thing, and if someone can convince me they're me, they'd sure have to be either me or someone who knows me well. And chances are, a person who knows me well enough to fool me has a good reason to lie to me. It's not like people who know me the best aren't close friends of mine. * [[{{Unhari}} I]] would just ask my future self to empty their pockets. My level of trust would be directly proportional to the number of MacGyver-esque items they could produce. Either that or have them list off some completely irrelevent and possibly made up facts that I take pride in knowing. * When I was young [[strike:warthog]] child, my parents had a pass phrase in case anyone ever offered us a ride, even family. Nowadays, I have a simple method of proving my identity: my PGP (GPG) key. All I'd have to do is get access to a computer, ssh into my home box, grab the private key, use it to sign a message, then grab my public key from a key server to verify my identity. Of course, if the person I'm trying to prove myself to doesn't know how public key authentication works, then I'm shit outta luck. Now as for time travel... well, there's enough about me that no one knows that could be used to prove who I am to myself. * [[Tropers/YvannaIrie This troper]] was actually forced to have a bunch of these. She frequents a chatroom where you either have to make an account or choose a tempname, and since she can't be bothered with an account, she always goes with a particular tempname. For a while, people who pretended to be her kept showing up, so she had to make passcodes with as many people as possible to secure that people would know it's really her. The most memorable one is "What colour is the elephant?" "It's pink." (As a reference to her then-mousepad) These days she doesn't have to bother, because people have learned to recognise her for her speechpatterns and [[{{Tsundere}} spesific behaviour.]] <<|TroperTales|>>

Tsundere * I was introduced to Tsundere when someone called me one and I googled it. Turns out I'm Type A. I get too rough with people, it's so bad I've [[ArmorPiercingSlap made a guy cry by slapping them]]... and felt really bad afterward, but too proud to say anything. People describe me as both "assertive" and "cute". I dislike fluffy, loveydovey crap... except sometimes, I crack and go crazy over it. Everyone calls me a tomboy and I'm definitely a dominatrix. Also, uh... I even have Grade B [[ZettaiRyouiki Zettai Ryouiki]] with twintails. D-don't judge me! * This troper has a younger friend who I worked with in a play together. SO TYPE A. Most people knew she had a horrible temper and avoided her, actually. I played around with her temper a little, and she did hit me a lot. And call me a pervert. And one at least occasion

loudly yell "BAKA!" Yep, she's an anime fan too. It was rather metafictional. We actually ended up actually on the rocks for a while because people thought we were dating (and some hinted we were a TakahashiCouple - although there were occasionally some weirdly UST moments.) But when I had to leave, because as a senior it was the last show I was working on, she was really sad and she wanted me to come back. * This troper is a Type A. I yell at every one, hit people with [[WeaponOfChoice books]] when annoyed, and become a deredere only in the presence of a certain person. My friends laugh at that... * This troper's best friend is a Type A. TRUST ME. [[TakahashiCouple She and this guy]] have something like BelligerentSexualTension, with her getting angry at him, beating him, and even saying she hates him. He's a TroubledButCute JerkWithAHeartOfGold. And then this week, she was really sad about something, he just looked at her for two seconds, then he gave her a big damn hug and she [[CryCute started to cry]]. [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther Aww...]] * This troper romantically chased a Tsundere for months in a [[WillTheyOrWontThey Will They Or Won't They]] manner before deciding that it wasn't worth it. It took a while though, because every time I became ready to give up, she would switch from tsuntsun to deredere, and then right back to tsuntsun when I became smitten. After noticing the cycle, I stopped focusing on her. * This troper just realized she is one. Most of the time, nice and a little insane, but piss me off and I get loud and violent. One of my friends mocked my temper and said it was "sweet" Needless to say, apparently my slaps hurt. * [[Tropers.ReikoKazama This troper]]? * giggle* Type B. Sweet as sugar, loves chocolate and other sweet foods, kind, helpful, but do NOT. PISS ME OFF. Or you WILL regret it. Needless to say, some of the bullies at my school have learned this [[UnstoppableRage the]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown hard]] [[SugarWiki.MomentOfAwesome way]]... ** Oh, and I can be kind of tsun towards some of my YouTube friends... sometimes. B-But it's not like I like them in ''that'' way or anything! [[LuminescentBlush * blushes furiously* ]] * This troper has recently realized she's a type B Tsundere. Most of the time she's kind, polite, and helpful, but all it takes is a little teasing or embarrassment to bring out the tsun-tsun side. This is especially true if she's in the company of good friends. Her tsundere nature expresses itself as equal parts The Smirk, DeadpanSnarker, and aloofness. The epiphany came when a good friend offered to buy her an expensive gift and replied, I kid you not, "I guess you can buy if you want. I don't really care," while trying to hide the accompanying blush. -facepalm* [[@/{{EPIC}} This Troper]], however, is a [[strike: Yandere]] type B Tsundere. He often clashes with ANOTHER Type B Tsundere in his class. The sad part is... his temper flares much more frequently than hers does. He broke more than 30 pencils due to more than one case of BreakTheCutie, stemming from bad anger management. Probably from BewareTheNiceOnes too. But overall, he has a BoisterousBruiser facade, who is also pretty nice to other people around him. ** Actually, she '''too''' can be the cause of [[@/{{EPIC}} this

troper's]] [[{{Understatement}} massacre of a thousand forests]]. *** And the sad part is, that she is [[{{Tsundere}} Type A]] to many of the guys, and one guy in [[@/{{EPIC}} this guy's]] class says that she behaves like a bitch. * [[@/{{Guessmyname}} This troper]] just suddenly realised he probably is one too. Acts kind and helpful and stuff normally, gets all defensive on subjects such as 'which girl do you like' etc. Mostly out of fear of being teased, probably. Fear is certainly a major factor in Tsundere personalities. * [[@/ThisIsATest This Troper]] played WillTheyOrWontThey with a Type A Tsundere for two years, although she would probably deny taking part in the game. Half the reason he was in love with her was that she was such a classic example of Tsundere. He was even turned on by her [[IShallTauntYou The Smirk]] techniques. Yes, she was great...until she [[CharacterDerailment changed]] and he had to check into the Heartbreak Hotel. * Type 2 here. I'm all very sweet and somewhat annyoing, but I swear to God you get me angry and I will kill you. * [[@/{{Python}} This troper]] is Tsundere all around. Normally I am friendly and helpful towards others even though I generally dislike people, but says something about my health or about my income, I get very defensive, raise my voice and get upset, but then after it's all over I'm back to being my normal self again. * This troper has a lecturer at university that acts almost exactly the same way towards his students. In fact, she was almost ''scared'' of him for a time because she never knew when he'd behave normally or nutty. ** This troper had a high school English teacher who would generally start out the class by ''screaming'' at the people who came in late or didn't have their homework, occasionally accompanied by chair-tossing, and ended it by apologizing for his behavior at the beginning. (He was also undeniably the best English teacher at the school, though, and had a hilarious ability to carry on {{SeinfeldianConversation}}s by himself, which is probably [[BunnyEarsLawyer why it was tolerated]].) ** Joining the Tsundere teacher brigade, [[@/SabreJustice this troper]] who just got chewed out by a Drama Studies (go figure) teacher for skipping class to work on a project due in a few hours, and said teacher then turned around and talked kindly to my OTHER classmates who skipped class for other work. ** [[@/{{Pirka}} This troper]] has a Type A Tsundere science teacher. She is strict on the outside and a DeadpanSnarker, but if you are a good student in her class, prepare for a hell of a time. She also has a tendency to swear during lessons, which can vary from 'hilarious' to 'effing scary'. ** Two of this troper's aunts have been teachers, one of them explained why this was actually the best strategy "early on, you have to snap at the slightest thing, once you've intimidated them, you can start being nice, and become one of the most popular teacher's in the school without having pupils abuse you, but you still have to snap occasionally, just to keep them in line" ** This troper's ''mother'' will come home good-natured for two seconds and get extremely cranky for the next two hours if she finds

something out of whack. ** Wait, you have a tsundere mother too? ** * ''sigh''* ** What about having tsundere ''parents''? My mom and my dad are both tsunderes. LOL at me. ** I think we're siblings. Though this one's mother doesn't need a reason to go nuclear. ** This troper's mom: ''TSUN. DERE.'' We must all be related... ** This troper's mom is just plain AxCrazy, but this troper does know a lot of tsunderes. ** Yet another Tsundere mother. This troper is thinking about "My Mother the Tsundere" as a TV show. ** My mom can go from yelling at [[TheUnfavorite my sister]] over something minor to laughing and carrying on about something else within seconds. Should we start a support group? ** Tsundereness must be common in mothers, because this troper has one too. ** Same here with my mom. Then again it might be genetic as [[@/{{Alkthash}} This Troper]] is a bit of a male tsundere for human interactions in general. ** This troper's aunt is a Tsundere as well, especially towards my maternal grandmother/her mother. She cares about her a lot, and she'll also scream at her when she acts senile or goes "What?/Huh?" two-tothree times in a row. ** [[@/SerenYGogledd This Troper]] ''is'' a Tsundere mom, and offers the following advice: Doing what you're told the ''first'' time will usually stop the Rage before it starts. *** or maybe you just need anger management classes. *** GO TO YOUR ROOM!!!! *** Or maybe you seriously need counseling when we can't find your cellphone and you decide to ground us for a day, complete with screaming and trying to turn off my computer, which has my unsaved homework there... *** Dude! Are you ''trying'' to provoke her?! RUN!!! *** We're sorry ma'am. Will you forgive us? ** And still another case of Tsundere!Mom-idgeness; extra scary when she answers the phone during a fight and goes all polite and demure. ** Er, I just registered to say that my mother is exactly like the above troper's. She did the * exact* same thing just today. ** ...how odd. My parents are both {{Yandere}}. ** Adding to the list, [[@/{{AstraKiseki}} This troper]] have a Tsundere ''father.'' Type A. The troper hasn't had a boyfriend who isn't terrified of what spawned the Troper. Possibly because the troper is very much like her daddy. ~<3 ** [[@/{{This-guy}} My]] mom is type A, dad is type B. ** This Troper would really like to see that support group right about now. His mother is a Tsundere (though his father tends to be more of a deadpan snarker, leading to some interesting fights...), and she will take it out on ANYONE. Great to have if the teachers won't do anything about the bullies at school, horrible to have if you didn't score as high as she'd hoped on a mid-term. It's times like this I'm glad my sister ended up as a [[GenkiGirl Genki Girl]].

** [[@/{{DrakeDarkhunter}} This troper]] has definitley got a tsundere father. He's a well meaning guy but he's extremly anxious and has lot's of trouble admitting his wrong or managing his stress. Not to mention when he's mad he will try to find things to yell at your for. At the same time he's extremly affectionate and loves to give and receive hugs. He's also still rather deredere around my mother as she's the only person who it seems he will always fold and admit fault to. He's also prone to trying to make my mom act more selfishly and let him do more work around the house. It's kinda cute at times... *** Just your typical anime family... you just neeed an older brother who is a LovableSexManiac and it is complete! ** Hi, my name's this troper and my mother is a Tsundere... On the positive side, it's just like what they say about the weather in England - if you don't like it now, wait five minutes and something new will come along. ** Wow. The more [[@/{{Vulpy}} I]] read, the more worried I get. I'm learning things about this troper's dysfunctional families I don't think I'm entitled to know... ''({{Beat}}.)'' Hey! Let's go read FetishFuel next! ** Hey, my mom's practically the definition of Tsundere, and I don't consider her dysfunctional. I just thought of her as the "quick to get angered, but equally quick to forgive" type until I read the Tsundere article. It also helps that her yellings at me are almost always justified, what with me having an unfortunate tendency to be [[BrilliantButLazy lazy]] and/or [[CloudCuckoolander scatterbrained]], and I can ''always'' count on her being extremely loving and remorseful afterwards. Maybe Tsundereness comes naturally with being a parent...? ** Yep, this troper's parents definitely fit - her dad's a Type A and her mum's a type B. From what I can gather, when they were going out, they had BelligerentSexualTension, but something changed along the way. ** This troper's biological mom is not one, but his stepmom is. She tends to get into a lot of arguments with his dad, tell she's packing her stuff and leaving and then walk out of the door. She usually ends up sitting outside for a while till she comes back in and apologises. ** This troper's mom is a Tsundere, Type A. It's not always a pleasant experience. * [[CatsAreMean Cats]]. Actually...house pets in general. ** [[@/JBridge I]] have one tsundere cat, along with a GenkiGirl and a cat that's almost always outside and has sent our neighbor's cat to the hospital ''four times''. Beat that. What makes it even weirder is that the genki cat and the tough guy are siblings. Oh and by the way, his name is Knuckles. ** A cat this troper had to pet-sit on a few occasions went well past tsundere and into bipolar type 1. The beast would walk up to you, purring and weaving between your ankles, and butt its head against your hands to get you to pet it. When you did, you could expect to lose anything from a finger to the skin off your entire forearm. ''Every single time.'' Ironically enough, the cat belonged to a psychiatrist. ** This troper also has a tsundere cat (who's [[strike:brunette]]

solid black) and a GenkiGirl cat (who's [[strike:blond]] dilute calico). They're both part Siamese, which might explain a lot. ** I have ''two'' cats who fit this description perfectly--a Type A who will run up, bite your foot, and run away, then later come and try to snuggle with you, and a Type B who begs for attention, and leaves you bleeding when you give it to her. *** This troper's cat turned from a curious and lovable tortoiseshell tabby into a Type A tsundere due to an unfortunate head injury. This troper is convinced that my cat has some sort of sibling rivalry with me for my mother's affection; if mom and I are on the couch for example, my cat will jump onto the couch and ''she will try to headbutt me off the couch.'' and yet when I am away at university or my dad's house she pines for me, presumably because without me she has no-one to bully. Fitting the deredere aspect she will on occasion present her tummy to rub and then bite you. ** This troper's cat, a very small and cute silver tabby, is a Type B Tsundere. She loves attention and being stroked...then for no reason at all she tries to jump up and eat your arm. It's quite funny to watch. * Hey, how about a tsundere ''poodle?'' This troper has one. ** In my experience, you haven't had a tsundere dog until you've owned a Yorkshire Terrier. Even better when the yorkie has cute li'l ribbons on its fur. <3 *** Yorkies have hair, not fur... ** This troper's pekingese fits the bill perfectly. ** This troper's Lhasa Apso is a combination of both types. I've also had a ferret who fit the bill, too. * Pet birds can be like this too. Sure it's cute when they snuggle up against your neck, but then OH GOD MY EAR. At least this troper's bird is fairly small. ** Two Tsundere birds here. The larger cockatoo is a Type B who likes cuddling and has mastered the adorable pose, but occasionally throws a tantrum and violently savages...[[BerserkButton socks]]. The tiny fist-sized lovebird is a Type A who [[TooDumbToLive attacks the 70pound dog on a regular basis]], but nuzzles your ear if he thinks you're asleep or not paying attention. * Hee hee...this troper is type B for sure. I'm pretty cuddly and shy most of the time, and I follow some of the basic "deredere" tactics like try cooking for the person I like and imagine up other sweet things to surprise them with. But my temper snaps when I have my integrity attacked for no reason, suffer from some sort of drug withdrawal (caffeine, alcohol, sugar, hormones, etc.), and if a person I like is sending me mixed messages about their affection--that absolutely drives me up the wall and they'll get my special brand of silent treatment (hmph!). ** My pets, on the other hand, are Type A. I have a Chihuahua who goes berserk if a stranger comes in the house, but after a while he'll slowly warm up to them and becomes the sweetest little dog in the entire world. My Cockatiel doesn't like being approached by strangers either and she gets extremely grumpy with me when I come up to her, but she'll fly onto me when the opportunity arises and demand kisses and head-scratchies...and she also pretends she hates the dog but to

be honest she doesn't mind his company. * Another word for 'tsundere' would be ''fucking bipolar.'' Little hint: Don't date someone who's bipolar, unless you've got the patience of a saint. This troper has learned the hard way that it rarely works out for the best. ** This troper is also a member of that club, with the added bonus that she would blame any "misunderstandings" on her [[ISoundLikeARetardInEnglish limited English]], [[ObfuscatingStupidity which wasn't as limited as she would have people believe.]] ** [[@/SeanTucker This troper]] knows a bipolar tsundere. She's a lot like [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Asuka.]] Asuka happens to be massive FetishFuel for me. Take a wild guess. ** This troper is dating his girlfriend specifically because she is tsundere, which he finds to be very fun. {{Anime}} will do that to you. *** Hey, in small doses, that sort of thing can be [[SlapSlapKiss a huge turn-on...]] ** This troper has Asperger's Syndrome, which is a bit like bipolar. The only difference is that, unlike bipolar, there usually ''is'' a reason for the sudden outbursts, although it might be strange. A good example is Lois near the end of that one FamilyGuy Christmas special. "''No... paper... TOWELS?!''" *** This Troper (who also has Asperger's Syndrome), agrees. The thing is, though, I tend to get upset over little things and shrug off the things that are really important. This may be why I've only had one boyfriend... in kindergarten. *** This Troper (@/{{aurora}}) is also a Tsundere aspie. It made her childhood horrible (imagine being constantly pecked by classmates, who always found creative ways to trigger these outbursts, that only provoked more pecking and made the teachers upset). **** @/{{aurora}} Huh, that sounds exactly like this Troper (@/{{NintendoManiac64}}), though I'm technically kuutsundere. Clearly we're each other's [[OppositeSexClone opposite sex clone]]. *** I had like issues though I didn't need much help to act out like a mad man when I was a teenager.(First they said I had ADHD, then I was Bi-polar, and finally they "settled" on Aspergers) I was kicked out of seven schools, six of them specifically intended for "special needs" kids, for my wild nearly ''psychotic'' mood swings. Have you ever spent time in a literal padded room? I have. As with a great many things it improved with age and I've since begun attending college and working and now limit myself to just being a grumpy bear prone to snide remarks if annoyed. *** [[@/{{Morgie}} This troper]] is also an aspie {{Tsundere}}, and type A. ** Most real life tsunderes (the tsuntsun ones anyway) aren't as extreme as anime ones. They'd be more like the kind of people who have problems dealing with feelings and putting themselves out there. You can't get rejected if they think you don't like them, right? There are lots of people like this with younger kids dealing with their first crush. * Most hormone-controlled teenagers fall into this category. ** They're making teenagers without hormones these days?

ScienceMarchesOn. *** Just the ones who's parents have them full of ritalin antidepressants, because it takes less time than being real parents </bitter> **** There were kids at this troper's school who were just plain jerks (they didn't have anything medically wrong with them), and their parents put them on Ritalin or other types of medicines. Said kids were then constantly subdued and seemed depressed. The kids who did have legitimate medical problems and were also put on said medicine often pointed out that the other kids didn't need the medicine and that the parents who put them on it were only making things worse by doing so. They pointed out that Ritalin and anti-depressants actually did very good things for people who needed them, but if someone only saw what they did to people who didn't need them, that person would be scared of such medicine. But hey, try telling that to the parents. They didn't teach their children empathy or even tact when they were young, kids got older and harder to ignore, so, just turn them into empty shells instead of trying to actually be a freaking parent. * [[@/{{Seanette}} I'll]] confess to some tsundere tendencies of my own (apparently inherited from my mother), especially when premenstrual. My husband has learned in fourteen years of marriage when chocolate is essential. * My younger sister and older sister fall into this category. As well as one of my cats. On the other hand my other cat, my dog and mom don't. * This troper admits to sometimes displaying a minor example of this trope. When he gets angry he tends to yell at other people, but calms down in a few minutes and is very apologetic for being so rude. * The cousin of this troper owns a dog that MUST be a tsundere. Just this past weekend, when my cousin brought the dog over to my house, she would one minute lick my fingers and the next minute bark at me. And the pattern repeated itself several throughout the day. This troper has also met far, FAR too many tsundere girls throughout his childhood. * This troper's circle of friends includes one woman who adds a heavy dose of MoodSwinger tendencies to her tsundere-ness; she's also quite frankly incomprehensible a lot of the time, very passive-aggressive, acts childish despite being six years older than this troper, and has shown hints of genuine mental instability lurking beneath her merely mercurial exterior. This troper finds her tolerable when she's relatively calm but all too often wants to kick her through a window. (It doesn't help that, being TheSpock, I'm pretty much her polar opposite when it comes to emotions.) * This troper had an algebra teacher in middle school that would go from laughing to screaming at us in two minutes flat. We were ''all'' scared of her. It really didn't help that she could kind of be a SadistTeacher... ** This troper's geography teacher was the same way. ** [[@/{{Nomic}} This troper's]] Finnish teacher was like that too. She tended to go from being very pleasant to yelling at us for not doing our homework well enough at a moment's notice. Luckily this troper was a good enough writer to stay on her good side most of the

time. * She never thought of it this way before, but @/{{Clerval}}'s ''dad'' is rather like this. For example, my mother's tale of him having a blazing, mortifyingly loud row with some airline official in a Portuguese airport. My dad and the man walked off together, still shouting at the top of their lungs leaving my mother lurking around in embarrassment and despair, considering taking up smoking again and wondering if she could just run away. They came back beaming, practically hugging each other, as if they'd been friends all their lives. I myself have also cringed hearing him deal with unfortunate call-centre people: he can go from "YOU CANNOT DO THAT! YOU CANNOT DO THAT, YOU DISGRACEFUL WOMAN!" to "Yes, that's fair enough, thank you," in all of about ten seconds. ** This troper was just reminded of her mother's ability to instantaneously switch between calm and professional Phone Voice and viciously snapping at her (the troper, that is), with no signs of the former being forced, which she found rather creepy when she was a kid. *** ... Whoa. Apparently I've been [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife contributing to TVTropes in my sleep.]] * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder Bipolar Disorder]], this troper had his father and brother have it while growing up. ''Fun'' times. They're either in a good mood and quite happy, or fucking crazy. * This troper's gay (male) housemate. He can go from depressed,bitchy and dismissive to warm and enthusiastic in a split second. * [[@/DarkInsanity13 This troper]] borders on this trope at times. Typically she's a DeadpanSnarker or a JerkAss, but has [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold sympathetic/nice tendencies on the odd occasion]]. Of course, she tries to cover it up by acting mean or as if it troubles her more to not be nice. She's not bipolar; maybe a bit wacky at times, but mood swings are more gradual. You have much more warning (unless she ''really'' doesn't like you) as to when she'll get violent. * [[@/{{Otempora}} This troper]] has realized that she has the classic traits of a no. 2 Tsundere (the violent approach). This explains why I've never had a boyfriend -- I just need to find a JerkWithAHeartOfGold! * @/{{Moose}} is one, and very good at it as well. I can be a snarky JerkAss one minute, an amiable eccentric the next. * My mother's cat is an example. She'll demand to be petted, and then, every now-and-then, she'll bite while being petted. She always slaps my mother if Mom doesn't automatically get up from bed whenever she wants something. A former dog of mine tried to kill her when we brought him home, but Mom forced them to spend supervised time in a room together. They got along better, but once, when he was picking on her, she locked him in the bathroom. (There was a hamper and a shelf above it in the bathroom. The hamper often got moved slightly so that a part of it stopped the door from going farther. She got him to chase her in the bathroom, and accidentally or not, one of them got the hamper to move and block the slightly opened door. She, then, jumped onto the hamper, got onto the shelf, and managed to jump through the door.) After that, they became best friends, with the dog spoiling and

protecting her like an affectionate big brother. She, on the other hand, would alternate between peacefully hanging out with him and slapping him for no discernable reason. When he went missing, she spent days wandering the street, trying to find him. * [[@/TromboneChild This troper]] just realized that she is something of a Tsundere: usually Type A, unless there are adorable small children around. * [[@/{{Lina}} This troper]] is a Type B, being typically friendly and easy-going, but with a temper that flares fast and violent. * This troper has a tendency to say things that make him sound tsundere around one of his friends. It doesn't help this troper's image as his friend's "clingy girlfriend", despite the fact that his friend has an actual girlfriend. * [[@/FurikoMaru This troper]] is a Type B, an adaptation she developed in response to her mother, also a Type B. When her mother flips out, her deredere side goes very EmotionlessGirl, prompting Mum to get even more pissed at the "Dead-Eyed-Cow Look." In daily life, she's mostly deredere, but she comes with a built-in Protective Oniisama feature in her brain that causes her to go tsuntsun on any of the DeadpanSnarker [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] she's attracted to (via a combination of strategies 2 and 3), while any NiceGuy who manages to slip through is filtered by the Protective Onee-sama feature, [[TheWoobie which takes his side]] and tells her she's too mean to deserve him and should [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy just let him go.]] She is still hoping and praying for a HotBlooded StepfordSmiler BadassBookworm LoveableRogue GentlemanThief [[LupinTheThird (* cough* )]] to swoop in from out of nowhere, take her on adventures, and have a month or two of dancing around the issue before jumping her, as he would be the perfect guy to by-pass both defense-mechanisms. Yeah, there... really [[ThereAreNoTherapists aren't any therapists for this.]] * This lurker is a Type B. Her, ah, [[{{WithFriendsLikeThese}} schoolmates]] have only just began to realise that her tsuntsun side is a very violent one, to the point where this lurker thought she could even be a [[{{Yandere}}Yandere]]. One of them snuck a bottle of vodka into her locker (punishable by being ''expelled''), after about three years of relentless taunting about Lurker's height (short), weight (normal for my age), and non alchohol/drug usage. Said bottle was thrown out the window. [[{{GigglingVillain}} Teehee]] &# 9829; * This troper had a teacher who was a perfectly nice Englishwoman. Unless she was actually teaching at the time. * A creepy example happened to [[@/DaNuke Da_Nuke]] at high school. He knew this guy who was sometimes rather normal, even friendly, but who sometimes called him names or pushed him around for no reason. Little did Da_Nuke knew, that this guy was not only gay (and thus Type A Violent Approach Tsundere for Da_Nuke!), but ''he also molested those who dared sleeping at his place while drunk.'' {{SQUICK}}! * This troper's sister is both a TsunDere WithAHairTriggerTemper. Living with her isn't much fun. * [[@/{{Rainbow}} This troper's]] Norwegian Elkhound Diana is a Tsundere dog too. It's hard to tell sometimes if she's going to growl at me or be nice sometimes when I go to pet her (sometimes she'll roll

over, growl, and then let me pet her anyway), and she usually has to warm up to people first before she'll let them pet her. She also alternates between bullying the older Keeshond/Beagle mix Aggie and licking Aggie's ears and sometimes trying to play with her, but they have a more complicated relationship than just "Diana is a tsundere." Interestingly enough, that picture of Rin flipping between the "tsun" and "dere" sides looks eerily like what Diana would look like if she was drawn as a cute anime girl (she has dark gray fur that's kind of long and the black hair bows look a bit like Diana's black pointy ears). * [[@/{{Magpie}} This Troper]] is the very epitome of tsundere. One moment she's a polite, well-spoken and rather shy girl, but at any given moment some poor unwitting fool so happens to hit the [[{{BerserkButton}} berserk button]] and WHAM! Within an instant she's flinging sarcastic remarks and catty insults left and right, and won't hesitate to beat the crap out of anyone whom so chooses to challenge her... then, just as suddenly she'll find herself apologising, desperately struggling to repear the damage. ** Seconded. This Troper is always Shy>Snarky>Violent>Apologize>Repeat. * This troper's best friend has a little kid cousin named Tazmin who acts like this a lot, she's also a bit of a Creepy Child and Infante Terrible. She also loves cats for some reason and likes to pretend to be a catgirl herself. When she was her little outbursts she sometimes hissess like a cat does. * My mother is like this, I dislike her in ''both'' modes. * [[@/{{Dammerung}} This Troper]] is a male Type A. He reached an immediate empathy with [[ZeroNoTsukaima Louise-dono]] much to his chagrin. * This troper had to write out an information sheet on the definition of tsundere for her mother, because her father's picture might very well be in Japanese dictionaries next to this word. She feels horrible for her mother, because her father has about a 20:1 tsuntsun/deredere ratio, and can be really bloody emotionally abusive in tsuntsun mode. * This troper is a Type B {{Tsundere}}. Rather [[{{ShrinkingViolet}} quiet, timid]] and caring in her deredere mode. However if somebody makes the mistake of pushing her {{BerserkButton}} or hurting one of my friends, they will find themselves face down on the ground, in a judo hold when tsuntsun, then a few minutes later apologizing and feeling bad for causing physical harm. Her dog is also a Type B tsundere, deredere with older people and dogs but tsuntsun with children and puppies, especially this troper's {{Genki Girl}} Shar pei puppy. and don't get this troper started on her [[{{Tsundere}} mother]]. * [[@/{{chitoryu12}} This troper]] knows two. One was always either acting like his best friend/adorable pet or actively trying to murder him. When she had an incident with her boyfriend that ended in the entirety of drama club hating her, she [[{{LaserGuidedAmnesia}} faked amnesia]] to basically restart everything. While she eventually knew it couldn't last and suddenly started "remembering" her past very rapidly, she appreciated how this troper didn't like their on/off friendship and wanted to start off on a clean slate, using her "memory

loss" as an excuse, and they're remained good friends since. The other one is his best friend, but when upset or angry will either seek solace in him or lash out violently. This is currently the third time running that she's angrily stopped talking to him for no particular reason. * This troper's mother is. Tsun. Dere. [[@/JuiceBoxHero This troper]] herself, however, fits scarily into the {{Yandere}} character type, though less drastic (probably won't commit murder) and not motivated by love. Other than that, pretty yandere. * This Troper is a bit of one. Usually in Dere mode, but watch out for her in Tsun mode; she may not be very strong physically, but she has deadly wit, sharp memory, and can make [[MenDontCry grown men cry]]. (Don't worry too much, though, she apologizes instantaneously) * This troper is a Type B, as is her mother. Her hamster used to be very much a Type A but is slowly mellowing into a Type B. ** I don't mean to pick on you in particular, but isn't this the sort of thing you should.. I dunno, get help for? It's not attractive, or cutesy, or whatever to be violent against a person because you're 'quirky'. It just seems like a trait that can be worked out of a person so that they're better to be around. *** This troper agrees. Being a Tsundere generally isn't a good thing. It sucks. Let's face it: A person who yells at you, hurts you and puts you down isn't fun to be around. * This troper suspects she's a type A. It'd explain a lot of her cynical DeadpanSnarker snapping her way through life. Most of the time. * This troper is type B. Her other side is triggered by two things; her rivals, and her friends. Both initiate her sarcasm and sharp emotional awareness... both of which go together to create insults which can have a nasty sting in them if placed wrong. Right. Wrong. * This Troper, being a ShrinkingViolet with severe intimacy issues, gets very, VERY ''tsun'' when she gets unwanted attention, but can be ''dere'' to the point of ClingyJealousGirl around people she likes. * This troper loves to tell her best friend she's a Type A tsundere. Said friend still doesn't fully grasp the tsundere concept, but it seems to work for the [[ReverseHarem two or three boys]] that have been sending her mixed signals lately. * This troper once had a huge fight with a boyfriend, (granted, I was slightly intoxicated and he was totally inebriated) in which I repeatedly said things like "I'm tired of hearing your voice!" and "Just take off your shoes and go to bed. WITHOUT CRYING!" After about two seconds of sleeping on the floor, I ended up back in bed with him apologizing sincerely. * "Tsuntsun", meaning aloof and/or cranky. "Deredere", meaning affectionate or sentimental, and literally meaning lovestruck. Argh...THERE'S NO SWITCH! Yes, [[@/{{SpiriTsunami}} this troper]] seems to be permanently stuck in '''both''' modes, but I guess if I had to classify myself, I'd say I was type A. The aloof and cranky kind of gets in the way of the affectionate, though not the sentimental or lovestruck. It runs in the family, too, as I'd classify my sister as a type B. (Unfortunately, ''I'' seem to be the trigger for her tsuntsun side...)

** On second thought, I'm pretty sure I'm type B as well, but I'm my own trigger due to my [[ShrinkingViolet inability to express my feelings]], leading me to being consistently in "tsuntsun" mode despite my default setting in regards to others being "deredere". A classic example of the InformedAttribute, I suppose, because I ''am'' always seen with my irritant, it being myself. Yes, I'm a man of many contradictions. * This troper remembers a certain meeting in school that proves her Tsundereness: One moment, she's chatting happily with her friends; three to five minutes later, she's ''ranting, scaring the life force out of over eighty people due to their discipline issues.'' Another three minutes later, she's back in her seat, smiling at her seatmate. Uhm... * This tropper's two friends, who are JustFriends and frequenly fall under the tropes ShesNotMyGirlfriend and SlapSlapKiss. I strongly suspect they love each other, but won't admit it. --->Friend A: Were you BORN to annoy me? --->Friend B: Yes. God looked at me and said "Thou shall annoy Friend A until one of you two dies." --->''Then it started to rain. He threw his umbrella to her because he knew she shouldn't get near him, given that they were just arguing about something. Then she walked towards him so they could both be under the umbrella.'' --->Friend B: It's not like I care if you get a cold or something... But if you miss school because of that then it will be my fault. --->Friend A: W-whatever you say. ** The best part is, they are in GRADE 11. YES, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ACTING LIKE TWELVE YEAR OLDS. Isn't that hilarious? ** I...I actually find that a little romantic. ** Yeah, holy shit. Someone could translate that into a visual novel and I'd be all awww d'awww. ** This is probably the most straight-played tsundere troper tale here. * This troper is most certainly a Type A: he's cynical, a pessimist, miserable, self-proclaimed {{JerkAss}}/DeadpanSnarker and overall unpleasant man. The only person to make him go "dere" is his UnrequitedLove interest; just being in her prescence will make him go "dere". Unfortunately, he's well aware he has no chance in his lifetime to ever be with her (she, a successful businesswoman; he, unsure of what his current career holds), and coupled along with the fact he barely ever sees her in person since high school, this troper might just accept the possibility he's becoming a full-blown "tsun". NO '''DERE''' HERE, FOLKS. * [[@/RayAyanami This troper]] is starting to show signs of Type B. He's normally a nice, sweet guy, but he has a few {{Berserk Button}}s that will make him more on tbe bitchy side. People around him being idiots will also make him fight to avoid falling into ''tsun'' mode. He tends to be on his ''tsun'' side more on the internet, where the repercussions of being an ass are lesser than being one in real life. * This troper's biological mom sort of acts this way towards his stepfather. * This troper is generally like this. Usually she's more of a type B,

rather calm and collected unless you make her angry. Then she shall unleash all the wrath of Hades upon you. However, she tends to morph quickly into type A around one friend of hers. It's annoying, really. >.> * Both this Troper and her mother are type Bs. * I am a Type A Tsundere among people I don't like (far more tsuntsun than deredere) and a Type B among my friends. ^^ * [[@/{{Katsuhagi}} This troper]] owns a Morab (Morgan/Arabian) mare who's a classic Type A Tsundere. Most mares tend to fit this, especially part-Arabians, hence why the comment "Pfft. Mares." in ''SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron'' made her burst out laughing. * I have a friend who is incredibly nice. Works for a non-profit, volunteers at the Soup Kitchen and the SPCA, even practices Zen meditation. This is unfortunately a package deal with a KnightTemplar side that will get [[DissonantSerenity very scary]] very fast. * [[@/MiniKaylee This troper]] has been classified as a Type B tsundere by her brother, and must say it's pretty much true. I'm normally pretty friendly and helpful, even if occasionally kind of snarky. Sadly, I can quickly get very temperamental sometimes. * This troper is generally very deredere, but occasionally just ''flips''. (Actually, she's more of a closet Type A than anything else.) For some reason, no one ever believes this when she tells it to them. * [[@/SovietKitty This troper]]'s first (more-or-less) girlfriend was a Type A tsundere who could give England and Romano from AxisPowersHetalia a run for their money. Troper soon learned that, "You're so annoying," meant, "You're the only one of these morons I like, and you're really kind of sweet," and that eyerolls and exasperated sighs were something akin to snuggles and kisses. The fact that they were only twelve helped differentiate her from your average {{Jerkass}}, but the clincher was that she was the only one who ever stood up for her to her many bullies, ''ever''. * It occurs to [[@/{{Cameoflage}} this troper]] that she's a Type A tsundere for [[CompanionCube her computers]]. Most of the time, the only time I talk to them is when they're not doing what I want them to; however, I'm ''extremely'' protective of them -- jokes about breaking/destroying them are DudeNotFunny for me, and actually doing even the most miniscule damage to them is my BerserkButton -- and I had the same kind of reaction to my first laptop breaking irrepairably as I would to a close family member dying. (The latter is [[EmotionlessGirl probably less emotional than it sounds.]]) * [[{{Kuudere}} This troper]] was involved in a [[UnresolvedSexualTension UST]] situation with a Type A tsundere. Upon leaving a party at a friend's house, she warmly hugged a group of friends good night and wished them a safe trip home. As soon as they were out of sight, this troper immediately got a [[SlapSlapKiss slap]] and an order to drive her home. * This troper is a Type B Tsundere. He's usually nice and helpful,but at times, he has a DeadpanSnarker remark towards a lot of stuff. His girlfriend is a Type A Tsundere. The violent kind...... * This troper, a Type B, has been jokingly criticized by a [[UnrequitedLove certain friend of hers]] for being violent over the

most trivial of things regarding the both of them--"without a reason," according to the friend. However, said friend does not realize that the troper barely ever hurts anyone else... * [[@/{{QueenOfSwords}} This troper]] is a Type A Tsundere, as her friends have pointed out. She's also a {{Kuudere}}. * This troper has a friend who is a troper like I am, and is, from the ways I have seen her behaviors toward me, is a definite type A, who occasionally goes into deredere mode whenever we talk abou stuff we have in common, like the shows we watch. * This Troper started as a Type B with her first boyfriend (a Type A) and is now a Type A that actively looks for (and currently has) Type A boyfriends. Is that weird? * This troper is a TRUE Tsundere. She can be either type A or type B depending on her mood. Around her boyfriend, she's more type B. Around her siblings? Type A. * This troper is a Tsundere (Default Mood: Dere Dere) with Aspergers, which is a bad, BAD mix for maintaining relationships. When ever her temper, triggered by a misunderstanding (caused usually by her Aspergers) breaks out, everybody in the room should quickly run... however, this will usually only make the mood of the Troper worse... * This troper is a Type B tsundere, but her father? Type A. And people wonder where she gets her temper from. * In [[@/NickTheSwing this troper's]] story, a character named Neira is this way for the main character, Johnson. She pretends she could not care about loving him, but gradually they fall in love and, even though they can make you believe love hurts, their relationship works...[[spoiler: until she is raped to death by Johnson's father. She does get better, though.]] * This Troper is a Type A, to a T. She's cranky, sarcastic and quite violent to people as well as being a relentless cynic. But that's the public face, deep down she considers her friends to be the most important things in her life above all else, even if she rarely shows it. Around these friends she can be a softer person, whilst around others she keeps up the image. Even deeper is a relentless optimism that maybe Humans aren't Bastards after all, but she clings to cynicism because she's too proud to admit she was wrong in her rants. Over the years these traits have been lessening and she's not as bad (still cranky as hell though). * [[@/{{iriswings}} This troper]] is a firm Type A who enjoys hitting people with lunchboxes, heavy books, and other various blunt objects. * This troper has traits of a type B tsundere himself, and doesn't like type A tsunderes too much because they either make him feel bad or make him go AxCrazy * This troper has his own type D tsundere. She does anything from posting my phone number on "men looking for men" craigslist ads to straight-up saying "I hate you, you're so annoying, go away," and she always comes back a day or two later... * [[@/SharmHedgehog Some]] [[SelfDeprecation loser over here]] knows one of these. Let's see... Type B normally, type A whenever I'm within a 100-metre radius (she is also prone to hitting others for no reason, which quickly got warped into a RunningGag). Maybe it came from that {{glomp}}...

* This troper is a combination of a Type A tsundere and a {{Kuudere}}. She's either being violently sarcastic, or silent. However, her other side comes out occasionally. Case in point, she hates sharing school supplies. But if the guy she likes asks her for a pen or an eraser or something, said item will be produced in about a nanosecond and handed over with a cheerful "Here you go!" all without any sort of eye contact whatsoever. Troper usually then pretends to take a nap on her desk for a few minutes in order to hide her LuminescentBlush. It would all be so very awkward if anyone knew about it. * This troper already knew she was a tsundere (as well as a {{Kuudere}}), but recently she's become even MORE of one. Type A, and user of The Violent Approach, The Cold Shoulder, AND The Smirk. Is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, and often puts on a JerkassFacade. Very [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]], gets upset over the most trivial things...but LOVES cute things, animals, and [[TheWoobie woobies]]. Is also a bit of a closeted [[TheMessiah Messiah]] (though it [[BeingGoodSucks certainly doesn't make you feel like a saint]]). Also prone to crying when alone. Her mother is also a tsundere, Type B. She is generally nice and cheerful...but when she's in ''tsuntsun'' mode, ''RUN''. She starts using The Cold Shoulder tactic and basically becomes very depressed with a HairTriggerTemper who is ''impossible'' to cheer up. In those situations, this troper's InsufferableGenius stepfather becomes TheWoobie. He looks so helpless when he doesn't know how to deal with her moodiness. * This (bi) troper"s friends are all this, and 2/3s of them are female. (I also find it kinda cute) guess what I am [[color:blanchedalmond: yangire or yandere, depending on whether I am having mood swings or not at the time]] ** correction by above troper one of my female friends is a {{yandere}}/{{yangire}} as well (some odd WillTheyORWontThey there for a while), and I have a male (platonic) {{kuudere}} friend * This Troper suspects she may be a type B. It would certainly explain why such a nice girl like herself would suddenly decide to give someone the cold shoulder for offending her. * This troper is a bit of a Type B. Ordinally, she's something of a {{Genki Girl}}, loving, and kind, but she swings between threatening the boys in her class with [[ToThePain descriptions of horrid things that could happen to them]] and commenting on their stupidity. * This troper's first girlfriend was a type A tsundere, constantly rude and insulting to everyone except him, and not that much nicer to him. [[CaptainObvious It didn't work out too well]]. * This troper may be a mild Type-B as he is quite polite to most but suffers fools poorly. Even then he DESPISES Tsunderes with every ounce of his being and if he had his way he'd [[KillEmAll genocide the whole bloody lot of them]]. He doesn't get why everyone's so in love with generally unlikeable temperamental bitches who physically abuse them then go all "I'M SORRY" expecting forgiveness, with most parties knowing full well she'll be back to beating him up over a percieved slight the next day. ** You and I are now [[LegendOfZelda Sworn Brothers]]. * This Troper has been described as a somewhat of a Type A. Usually

sporting a somewhat pessimistic attitude, but changes that pretty quickly at times to the direct opposite. Often depends on the subject I'm confronted with. Some think it's funny to watch, others think I act like an arse, as a result. * I'm somewhat of an Informed Type B, in that I ''would'' be in a perpetually happy mood, but people tend to set off my violent and putdown-ish side a lot. Otherwise, when no-one else is around, I'm quite cheerful. I used to be more of a Type A, though. I was silent and I did a lot of [[DeathGlare death glaring]]. * This male troper is Type A with a mix of {{Kuudere}} as a result of {{Break the Cutie}}. As a result of little respect from his "family" he shows no respect in return. He don't attack people that bullied him, rather just put them on a list of {{Jerkass}}es past the {{Morale Event Horizon}}. As for the dere side he is quiet around classmates and "normal" around friends, and has a happier demeanor on forums. ** Are you a future me? Or have I been having a lack of sleep? * This Troper's girlfriend sometimes acts like this for laughs. Naturally, her natural personality is shy at first, then friendly and upbeat. She's not the type to do anything rash or crazy. However, sometimes we're just talking about something, anything, and she'll just start saying how she is so vastly superior to me, how I'm completely crazy and a loser, etc. However, she says this with a broad smile on her face and it's clear she's not being honest. I tend to return the favor...and then kiss. Don't know if it counts, but I felt like adding it regardless. ^_^ Also, ironically enough, characters like Asuka from Evangelion are some of my favorites, but she doesn't know that...and yet she still does it...kinda funny if you ask me, but I'm not complaining. * This Troper's girlfriend is a Type B tsundere. Her identical twin sister is a Type A tsundere. I am a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, making us a TakahashiCouple. This causes him no end of amusement. * This troper is more of a {{Kuudere}}, but has a Friend A and B. A is a type A tsundere, while B is a {{Handsome Lech}} (friends?! pff). Their daily interactions include B trying to look up A's skirt, and A trying to kick B. Then, B gives A the PuppyDogEyes, A starts crying for B's forgiveness, and all is well again... for a little while. * @/{{SunnyV}} is Type-B. She can''not'' stand her LoveInterest. At all. And yet. Actually, instead of getting nervous and self-conscious around LoveInterests in general, she gets either aloof, [[EmotionlessGirl emotionless]], or both. My thoughts are...interesting. She is also like this with her younger brother. In one day, she can go from being so angry with him she want to scream, to buying him M&M's at the vending machine and being quite nice to him. This shift can happen in the space of half an hour. I don't know what to make of this. * This Troper has realized she tends to act {{Tsundere}} to most people she's had a crush on... I'm only abusive towards people I like, what can I say? * This troper is a type A. If I really get to know you well, you'll see me more deredere, but usually most people dont get that far =) * This Troper has, to this date, only been tsundere for 3 people. Her cousin (4-9, type-A. 10-now, type-B.), her friend (Type-B) and her 4th

grade [[{{TheRival}} classmate]] (Type-A, heavy on the tsun). Oddly enough, the only other person in her family (that she knows of) that's a tsundere, is her [[{{CoolOldLady}} grandmother]]. * This one's a Type B. * My sister is Type A tsundere and looks like most of characters portrayed by RieKugimiya. Picture of her coming soon. * This troper is somewhat of a Type B Tsundere, though she only realised this a little while ago, and she's not too heavy on the tsun. She is generally shy, quiet, and really drawn into herself. If anyone starts to play around by pretending to ask her out, she'll just ignore them and move away. If someone she likes does the exact same, she'll try to ignore them but get a bit more defensive and covering her tracks if anything seems a little too close. If someone confronts her about them, she'll start to stumble over her words and try to deny everything. If she's close enough to the person, she probably has more of a tsun side. * This male troper is a variant type A. Towards most people, I'm tsun and proud of it (easy way to get rid of unwanted friends). Towards most of my past girlfriends, I've been Type B (dere but easy to rile up). Towards my current girlfriend, I'm a [[SpectacledSadist kichiku megane]]; that ''started'' as a tsun tactic to deter her, but for some reason she absolutely eats it up, so...* resigned sigh* * I (a female troper) consider Sammy, my laptop, to be a type B tsundere. (Yeah, I name and talk to my computers and such). Most of the time, this computer works quite well; very fast, can run stupid numbers of programs at once, and is usually the one computer that works when on trips to places with very iffy Wi-Fi. However, about every 2-3 weeks, Sammy has a BSoD for no reason (no viruses, it's been checked), refuses to run games and iTunes, and just acts strange in general. Clearly, she's jealous of my iPod and letting it be known. * This male troper falls squarely into type B, though in a sketchy sense. In his general mood he's polite if a tad reserved, lighthearted and friendly, but it doesn't take much pushing for him to slip into expressions of the blunt cynicism that permeates his thoughts. ** The above troper's recent ex-girlfriend happened to be a more literal example of a tsundere in an almost bipolar way, though, literal in that it reflected her inner feelings rather than just her mood. Think about it for a bit. * This troper has apparently been a Type A Tsundere her 'entire life' and it was only just pointed out in college by her [[dandere best friend.]] * This troper is a rather strange variation. She's very hyper and happy around her friends, except when her tsun side comes out and she starts piling on the {{Ineffectual Death Threats}}. She is only tsun around friends, though. Around people she doesn't know or doesn't like (ESPECIALLY if she HATES them) she will be dere, polite, and pleasant. * This troper's little sister is so very bloody tsun-tsun around me and the rest of the family. Rarely is she ever dere-dere, but when she is, she's as cute as a button and as hugable as a playful puppy. I think it has to do with the fact that she's the youngest. Just like chihuahuas and humming birds, the smaller you are, the more aggressive you have to be to compensate.

* This troper only just realised that she's often a Type A to the guy she likes. She usually responds to his idiocy by hitting his head, or just going 'Baka!',and often tends to hit/poke/yell at him to get his attention, but the moment he compliments her or acts like he enjoys her presence, she starts either blushing, smiling or both, and has to try to hide it. * This Troper and her best friend (who somehow are like twins personality wise, but look completely different), are both type B tsunderes, and another girl we know is type A, although she rarely shows her nice side. * [[@/{{Joerc45}} This troper]] is a type B tsundere mixed with elements of {{Kuudere}}. He has seen the effects of his tsundere-ness due to past relationships with friends and love interests ending due to his inability to [[CannotSpitItOut express himself properly]], leading to sudden flares in his temper. It becomes more evident when I'm in love, because the more I like you, the more "dere-dere" I can be, but it only takes a small transgression to trigger a harsh "tsuntsun" side. He also believes that this is a passive-aggressive selfdefense mechanism due to the [[BreakTheCutie bullying and hatred]] [[FreudianExcuse he endured when he was younger.]] * [[@/{{jedielf}} Type B, baby!]] This troper is generally a relatively quiet, happy individual, but is not afraid to unleash the tsuntsun within to her crush. * I am a Type B tsundere. I'm usually nice to everyone, but I was totally tsun-tsun to my ex. I still think being Type A is more appealing. [[{{Deconstruction}} The problem is some people don't like the tsun tsun side.]] * [[@/{{Ziggerfreud}} This Troper's]] mom is stuck between A1 & B2, although she shifts into A2 on bad days (her method of "Violence" is actually [[NoIndoorVoice Screaming]]) * After coming out of a phase that had me loathing tsunderes everywhere, I realized that I would love to have a tsundere in my life. well more dere that tsun. I used to hate them so much, and find them infinitly more annoying, but I realized i would have that than somebody who doesn't care for me at all. * This troper's friend enjoys hitting me and generally bossing me around, while I poke fun of her. The thing is that she REALIZES that shes a tsundere and will joke about how none of the teachers will believe that she picks on me because shes usually so sweet. One time after a barrage of insults, she just stops and says "Wow, I'm just releasing my inner bitchiness on you, aren't I?". Because of our arguing, theres been rumors that we're going out, something that our friends seem to love to mention. * This troper is some kind of Tsundere/Kuudere. It. Is. Terrible. See, there is this guy, right? He teases me or jokes around or maybe he just ignores me. So what do I do? Make matters much, much worse. I give him the cold shoulder, put him down with sarcastic, cynical remarks and I call him an idiot. * headdesk* I am such an fool... [[spoiler: But when we're alone and he smiles and shows geniune kindness to me... I melt.]] ** Sounds just like [[@/{{Nintendo Maniac 64}} me]] - I believe what you describe is essentially "kuutsundere". The only differences

between your situation and mine is that the guy that teases me is my dad, and that I'm a (straight) male myself (which is a whole story of outcast and awkwardness in itself), and that my dad in no way makes my heart melt. * It turns out that [[@/{{NintendoManiac64}} this troper]] is kuutsundere, (a type A tsundere with an outer layer of 'kuu') , but is a straight male. Needless to say, it's not a personality that works well for social interaction, especially for guys (do you know how many times people in school would ask me if I was gay? I don't even want to know about those that only thought about it). Not only that, my (extremely) dere core has been so buried that even my family and (few) friends never really see it fully, making most people just think I'm a {{jerkass}}. Needless to say this all eventually builds up in a very dere core... so dere it reaches the point of what could quite possibly be called gender confusion - I have a male to female {{gender bender}} fetish (mainly those that focus on kuu/tsundere characters) and I relate much more to aloof, not-so-violent, female tsundere characters in anime/manga than I ever did to male characters. (Rin Tohsaka and Ikuno Komaki are the two I think about and compare myself to the most) * On the "Tomboy" page, Tsundere was specified as a subcategory, with the following explanation: '''"When a girl [is aggressive] towards a boy who's caught her interest, she might be labeled a Tomboy."''' That description reminds me (this troper is male) of a girl in middle school who was considered a tomboy, and she said practically nothing but insults to me. (Calling me a crybaby, etc... or saying I was talking to my "imaginary friends" whenever she caught me talking to myself.) She was rumoured around school to have a crush on me, but just a rumour doesn't prove it. If she DIDN'T have a crush on me, then such rumours would have been false, (and that would have been quite fitting since she had helped spread false rumours herself) and if she DID have a crush on me, then she sure could have picked a better way to express it. Would we even be discussing this if it was a boy picking on another boy? * This troper is a Type A Tsundere. Or Type B. One of them, anyway. He acts very dere-dere in front of strangers, and has met tropers who call him a male YamatoNadeshiko. His friends, however, know him well enough that he is very tsun around them. He enjoys whacking people a bit too much, and often throws people onto the ground with a move he can't remember where he learnt it from. The only time he's dere around his friends is when they feel threatened. It has let to many injuries in the past. Strangely enough, he also has some form of sixth sense, and is attracted to fellow Tsunderes. It makes things very awkward when people ask how he would know on the first meeting. * This troper is a Type A Tsundere. She usually is very sarcastic and prone to telling her friends what big idiots they are, all that tsuntsun stuff. But if someone calls her cute, or compliments here she's reduced to a blob of jelly that blushes profously and (between stuttering incoherently) telling people to "Sh-shut up. Idiot, cut it out." It's especially worse when someone of the opposite gender compliments her. * This troper's mother is very much type A towards her best friend/potential boyfriend.

* This troper used to be a fairly aggressive Type A, but has mercifully grown away from being one altogether. * [[{{Tropers/STK}} This troper]] had a funny experience in an mIRC chatroom. A person who I did not know was actually one of my friends addressed me. He was using a username I did not recognize. I have a bad habit of taking things too seriously and misinterpreting jokes, hence my reaction. Irrelevant stuff has been snipped --><[friend]> The fuck are you doing here STK you faggot --><SNIP> --><STK> Also, who the fuck is [friend's username]? -->[I realize who he is after looking at his profile on the forum associated with the chat] --><STK> Oh hai [friend's real name]. --><STK> You got a problem with me? --><SNIP> --><[friend]> Yeah I have a fucking problem with you --><[friend]> You piece of dick shit --><[friend]> I love you ** Cue laughter from me. * This troper has a sneaking suspicion that he might be a type A tsundere, except for the fact that he doesn't go deredere for anyone. * This troper doesn't know if she has a mild case or a case at all. But sometimes she feels like it. She's very quiet, polite, and naturally kind to strangers, but around people she's comfortable with, she exhibits this behaviour. Around her beloved step-father and stepbrother she's a Type A. And she treats any guy who likes her very poorly even though she almost always reciporicates. All that behaviour is out of my control, but the one time I want to act that way, I can't. See, my friends are all really ditzy and I have to arrange any get togethers and do everything social for them, when I'd love to be aloof and have them ask me over for once. "Well fine, I think I can pencil you in, your lucky because I'm making time for you through my busy schedule". I will never get to say anything like that... * This Troper is a full-blown kuutsundere. While I'm a perfect kuu with everybody I don't know, talking as little as possible and being as cold as ice, I can be quite [[{{DeadpanSnarker}} snarky]] and [[{{Jerk with a heart of gold}} jerky]] with my friends and family (unless they need me, then I go derederederederederedere), and 99% of the time tsun with my boyfriend. As he's quite heavy tsundere too, our relationship is so screwed up that everybody that listens to us chatting thinks we hate each other. Our way of verbalizing our love for each other includes "Silly", "Idiot", "Moron", "Stupid" "Fatass" "I hate you", "Go die in a thousand fires", "You are the worst person I've ever met", "I was crazy when I thought I loved you", "Don't you have anything more important to do than bothering me?", "Making you angry is my favorite part of the day" "I must have been a serial killer in my past life, because living with you is the worst kind of punishment I can think of" and "I seriously, seriously, seriously hate you with the passion of a thousand screaming fangirls". Things get ugly when we sart using our names. Example: -->TT: * fingertips blue with cold, but too proud to complain*

-->HB: Hey you, wanna my jacket? -->TT: I'm used to the cold, you can keep your jacket to you. -->HB: Ok then, keeping my jacket, brat. -->* after a few seconds, he takes his jacket off and puts in my shoulders* -->TT: Told you to keep your jacket, idiot. You'll catch a cold... [[{{LuminescentBlush}} * blushes furiously* ]] Not that I care. -->HB: Lalalala not listening. I love you too. ** "Who are you and what have you done to my boyfriend/girlfriend" ensues every time one of us goes dere, but when it happens it's [[{{TastesLikeDiabetes}} so dere it should be forbidden]]. Our valentine's day cards were among the lines of "You are the part of me that I love the most" and "From all the paths I chose to take in my life, the one that led me to you is the only I don't regret taking" and once upon a time I [[{{OcularGushers}} started]] [[{{InelegantBlubbering}} crying]] when I accidentaly let the meal I was cooking for him - all his favorites - burn, just for him to laugh and hug me, saying that it would be delicious anyway because it was "his little toad" who was cooking. These are the least sickeningly sweet exemples I can think of. * This troper tends to be a Type B around her family and Type A around her friends and just realized it. Online, she is most frequently just deredere, but in real life her tsuntsun side can go bonkers at times and her male friends get beat up a lot, ESPECIALLY if they try anything 'romantic'. * [[Tropers/NewKidOnTheBlock This troper]] has found that he is a Type B (dere-dere) male Tsundere. I'm generally a nice, happy, easygoing, slightly introverted person who enjoys my life, but... I have quite a few {{Berserk Button}}s, and if any of those buttons are even touched, I go all-out tsun-tsun. Kind of ironic, considering that I can't ''stand'' Type A (tsun-tsun) tsunderes. * This troper once called a guy a fascist pig (he was a security guard, not a cop, but close enough), told him she deplored violence and the people who use it, and "don't you have real work to do instead of hanging around bugging the coffee girl?" She freely admits, at least to herself, it was mostly a defence mechanism as she was not at all used to attractive men flirting with her (even if it was only to get free coffee). * This troper is a Type A tsundere in real life, and a Type B on the internet. And I'm a guy. In real life, I tend to give strangers or people I barely know the silent treatment, and the cold shoulder. Even those I do know tend to get snarked at. Only a select few (my mom and a few friends) actually get to see my nice side. My dad's mere presence in the room is a berserk button, sending me instantly back to "tsuntsun" mode, (which is somewhat odd because he's almost a Type A tsundere as well) as is being told to help with something (also odd because I'll usually willingly help if voluntarily). On the internet, I'm usually quite nice until someone gives me a reason to be annoyed, usually by teasing me without indication that they're teasing. Also, at one point, when the administrator of a forum I went to was leaving, I went back and forth from pleading that the forum wasn't dead yet, to "shouting" (full caps) that I hate them. Then I dropped this gem:

-->Me: AND (admin's username) FOR THE RECORD YOU'RE A JERK FOR LEAVING! *beat* ...*cries* ** Actually, my mom's a Type B tsundere as well. She's normally nice, but then she gets herself riled up really fast about relatively minor things, and then manages to build herself up into an ever bigger rage, while giving me a seemingly never-ending rant. Usually it's the same one she gave me the last time, and she often repeats her points multiple times. ** This troper's mother is tsundere too. This troper just realised it. She doesnt seem to show affection of us that much with such things as cards or words yet constantly snarking. But she shows dere-dere side with occasional good cooking or praising us!! * My name is XuxiRawe22 and I am a {{Tsundere}}, type B. Very nice, very polite, wouldn't hurt a fly (but only because I don't have a swatter). Recently, I've been trying to be friends with this boy named Tim, who, physically, happens to be my type: PaleSkinnedBrunette with BlueEyes, skinny build, and a goofy, yet cute gap-toothed smile, but only likes me as a friend -- which I'm okay with since dating him would be too much like a [[PitbullDatesPuppy pitbull dates a puppy]], or rather, a cougar dating a rabbit (I have a sarcastic streak, can be pushy if things don't go my way, and inherited a moderate Italian temper from my mom), and besides, I'm that "Career first; love later" kind of chick, so love isn't exactly my top priority at the moment. We ''are'' friends (not exactly close, since he's really shy and quiet, hence the "rabbit" comparison), but he's not the reason I'm a Tsundere -- it's the people around me who see my acts of friendship towards Tim as a sign that I'm more than just his friend (made worse by an incident involving LoveLetterLunacy where a simple "Thank you for being a friend" note was misinterpreted as a love letter. It didn't help that I put a kiss mark in the middle of said letter). That's become my BerserkButton, and I have to stop people from pressing it. It's no easy task. * This troper is a repressed Type A, forced to be a Type B. The reason is that her friends and boyfriend are so unreliable and downright idiotic, that she's forced to act naturally cheery with a hidden rough side, instead of her real personality, or else she'll lose the relationships. She longs for the day when she can let her aloof and prideful default personality shine, and her friends and boyfriend will come to her! N-not like I want them to or anything!! * @/JackMackerel's mother is Type one and Type two. It's the reason why I've never been close to her in my older years - it's '''extraordinarily fucking irritating.''' * This troper's ex-girlfriend and now housemate/good friend is a classic Type-A example. It can be annoying, frightening (I'm a shrinking violet), and sometimes exhausting. Needless to say, I figured out really quickly that dating a real-life tsundere isn't that great after all. * This troper dealt with a textbook Type A Tsundere until his sophomore year in highschool, when she was PutOnABus. That is to say, moved to Wisconsin. * This troper is a hybrid. He believes he's a Type B, but most people will describe him as a Type A. Hes starting to agree, but at the same

time, his A tendencies get weaker as B comes out. Its a neverending cycle. Though its slightly weird to have his 'dere' as a extremely shy person, when he was extremely confident a few seconds ago. * This troper has recently, upon great introspection, come to release she's a Type B tsundere online and a {{kuudere}} offline, where she is too shy to express her natural emotional urges. Pretty much everyone is showered with love except a few boys who get the full tsuntsun treatment. With an embarrassing occasional helping of deredere as a result of guilt, which is quickly shoved away again for tsuntsun. :blush: Worst of all, she has hidden [[{{yandere}} yanyan]] tendencies as a result of extreme posessiveness OTL. Hell, just the word yandere was her BerserkButton for awhile. (Try a berserk keyboard...) D-don't you dare mock me though--! I swear! ** Her cat is deredere with her and kuudere with everyone else. * This troper is VERY tsundere. Her relationship with her (now ex) boyfriend was basically "Slap Slap Kiss". * In my current class (high school 3rd year) there's a guy's who's an over-the-top fanboy of a certain football (soccer) team in my country, who somehow manages to have greasy hair ALL THE TIME and who, generaly speaking, [[{{Understatement}} doesn't look very attractive]]. In the first year nearly every girl (including this troper) used to make fun of him, but there was one who would mock him on every possible occasion because said guy openly had a crush on her and, needless to say, she wasn't very happy about it. Guess who's his girlfriend now. * [[{{Tropers/Luna87}} This troper]] is this. I'm usually sweet, quiet, nice to puppies and babies, a total GranolaGirl, if [[TheLadette a little rough around the edges]]. But you don't want to say the wrong thing to me. Or hurt an animal around me. [[BerserkButton Or talk badly about my mother]].(Justified somewhat because I'm diagnosed bipolar) ** My 12-year-old brother is becoming this as well, as a result of puberty. Growing up, he was always the sweetest kid, but now that he's approaching teenhood, he's gotten mouthier and more aggressive. He can still be sweet, but it can flip either way at the drop of a hat. I shudder to think what the [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling baby of the family]] will be like [[TeensAreMonsters at that age]]... * My band director in High School was definitely a Type A. He'd often be frustrated or angry and almost alway loud... while acting as band director. He definitely demanded the best of us. One time, he literally had to leave the band room and scream to relieve his anger at a couple percussionists. If you went to him with a problem, however, he was a very kind man and quite caring. Mr. Ohrt was definitely simultaneously one of the most hated and most loved teachers in the school. * This troper is, much as she hates to admit it, Type A. Her hesitance to admit it is balanced out by the fact that her boyfriend (the relationship being a product of BelligerentSexualTension) is a fellow troper who is completely unafraid to point it out. * This troper has been told he's a {{Tsundere}}, Type B. He's gentle, quiet, and nice over most circumstances. But has little respect for people when aggravated, and is overall easy to get mad. He tends to keep himself under control outside of close family though. He's also

had crushes on every UnknownRival he's ever had, slipping into FoeYay. * This troper is an odd inversion of Type 2. She tends to act cranky toward everyone ''except'' her girlfriend, especially family members. * I'm afraid I'll end up being one when I finally fall in love. I've got some serious insecurities and I already know I'm going to test any poor boy to the brink in self defense. I can see myself as a type B tsundere because of this. {I AM SORRY TO ANY FUTURE LOVE INTEREST I HAVE IN ADVANCE! And I'm afraid... this online apology is all you'll get. TT^TT) * This troper's girlfriend is a definite Type B. Everyone ELSE considers her a nice, quiet model student. I happen to get the (metaphorical) frying pan over the head every so often. Her [[LuminescentBlush deredere moments]], however, really are sweeter then chocolate - she couldn't look at me the first time we held hands, and she spent the half-hour after our [[FirstKiss first kiss]] in a daze. Her [[MoeMoe Tsundere-ness]] is one of the reasons she's so awesome (another one is that she's a Troper too). [[TastesLikeDiabetes I love you Chibichan]] ^_^ *hug* * This troper is a Tsundere, but most people don't realise it. She gets defensive when it comes to love, and will probably pound your face in if you mention who she likes in front of anybody. Other than that, she's quiet, nice, and shy. * This troper is an extreme Type B. I don't ever remember the first few minutes between being Dere-Dere and Tsun-Tsun, so people will say I said stuff or did stuff and I won't remember. Normally, though, I'm told I'm pretty sweet and a good friend, but oh can I fly into a psycho bitch rage at the drop of a hat should I be annoyed too much. * This troper's unrequited crush is a tsundere, but he can't tell whether she's type B or type A. Bonus points for the fact she wears GirlishPigtails. * This troper is a Tsundere, and the type would vary depending on my mood. Then I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder type II, and now reside in the Type B category. * This troper is a Kuudere-Tsundere, when you don't know him, he seems a emotionless (Well, and when you know him too, but he shows some emotions), stoic robot, (there was this time I switched schools, some people asked me if I talked, and then some girls told me that I didn't laugh, smile, talk, or anything [plain stating the obvious]), but then, when you know him... Oh God, when you know him, brace for impact. He reacts '''horrible''' to love, care, friendship and stuff like that (doesn't blush, though, tsundere points -25), I find saying "friend" or "I like/love you" harder than, hell, I don't know, something really, really hard. But deep inside, I'm a nice, sweet person. It's just that no one ever found that nice, sweet person. * If you value your life, NEVER mess with this troper's [[MamaBear mother.]] ESPECIALLY her children. Although she seems like a nice, supportive, mild lady, if you mess with her sons, she 'will' be there to make you regret it. * This troper is usually a {{Dandere}} but quite Tsundere towards her family. "Why didn't you call after your appointment in the hospital? You told me you'd call! What? Oh, no, I wasn't worried at all! Seriously, no, I'm just asking!"

* This troper has a friend who is incredibly Tsundere. One [[WhatAnIdiot guy]] told her she was quite tsun-tsun, and explained to her what it meant. Yeah, you can guess what happened next. * This tropette is a class A, combined with Moe (at least that's what my girl-friends say), if that's possible. I admit I'm tsun-tsun with most of people, but my girl-friends (and specially one of them) [[UnfortunateImplications found out]] the way to bring my dere-dere side up, [[LesYay and since then they do it when they have the oportunity]], just because "I'm moe when I blush and get embarrased". * [[ThisIsATest This Troper]] recently discovered that he's a subversion of a Type B Tsundere. Although generally nice to everybody (even people he hates) he can get very touchy when jealous (i.e., when the girl he likes starts flirting with another guy), and is virtually impossible to deal with at that point. Although he's far from violent or grumpy in his "tsuntsun" mode; he's just [[CornerOfWoe emo and depressed]]. Has even caught himself saying the line "I'm not doing this because I like you". ** On the same note, he once knew (and still has contact with) a straight-up Type B Tsundere, who was always pretty plucky and civil with her friends, but [[BelligerentSexualTension couldn't keep from insulting him]]. Not that he minded. Indeed, he really rather enjoyed it. She, too, would insist that she was "not doing this because I like you", but was much less GenreSavvy to see what she did there. * This troper can switch from type A to type B. I'm type B around my friends and strangers (most of the time). I'm type A around my family and my LoveInterest. ESPECIALLY my love interest. I hit and tease him constantly, yet when I was asked by I friend if I like him I just blushed and denied it. Seriously. * This tropette is a type B. I'm usually very kind, quiet, and keeps too herself and is mainly a ShrinkingViolet, but when I'm particularly grumpy or if you mention her [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend totally not-aboyfriend]] crush, you will face the wrath. [[LargeHam OF A THOUSAND BLAZING SUNS FROM HELL, WITH HELL-RAVENS]] [[{{Touhou}} LIKE UTSUHOU.]] * This Troper used to be a type B during her last year of middle school, and her friend is a type A. * This troper vacillates between Tsundere type A and Kuudere type C. Once in a blue moon you'll see me as Tsundere type B, but it takes just the right combination of stimuli (see: Cuteness Proximity} and it's all mostly a result of years of building up a defense. * This tropette is tiny, adorable, has a thigh-high sock fetish, a tendency to hit the people she loves, has been in love with a Type A for 3 years, and has given him (slightly rock-like) Piggy Bread with the excuse "You looked depressed, so I baked you something." Has also contemplated giving him a Valentine's card when he was girlfriend-less with the excuse "Since you didn't have a girlfriend this year, I thought you'd be lonely, so I'll give you this." * A girl that this troper met via HumansVsZombies was an interesting example. The first time I saw her, she was having a pretty nasty argument with one of the game's moderators; apparently, one of the zombies was kind of being a douche and acting outside the rules and it was pissing her off. Later that night, I overheard her saying, quite

seriously, that she wanted to kill him. For the next few weeks, I was legitimately afraid of her... then I tried talking to her after the game (she was in one of my classes and she invited me to sit with her), and she turned out to be as sweet, temperable and humble as can be. I guessed that she was a Type A Tsundere, [[SubvertedTrope except for the fact that I haven't seen her "Tsun-Tsun" side even ''once'' since I first saw her]]. She's been perfectly kind to me every time we met, even hugging me on a few occasions. My best guess is that she's a Type B, or maybe just a NiceGal with a nasty BerserkButton. * This troper tends to be Type B, usually the Un-Giver or the Advisor. She looks and acts quiet and is shy, but anyone who has spent more than 10 minutes hanging out with her knows that she has a nasty, snarky side. * This troper's girlfriend, most likely Type A. One week she's all over me, helping me with studying, inviting me over to everywhere and we can't stay one centimeter apart from each other if we're in the same room, the next she's cold-shouldering me, ignoring me, running away from me, yelling at me, and it looks like she's about to cut me out of her life. And yet I can't help myself, I just like her that much more. * This troper has a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold male friend]] that tends to act like this around her. Neither type really describes him, but he's more likely a Type A. The other day, the day after I'd been crying and [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming he was the one to comfort me,]] I was fairly late getting onto the bus. When I did arrive, and he saw me, he said, "I thought you'd been killed." He quickly followed that up with, [[BlatantLies "Not that I was worried or anything."]] While that was sweet of him, it leads to people constantly asking if we're [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend dating.]] These kinds of moments [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther confirm it for people.]] * So here's a question for all of the real-life Tsunderes out there do you think you'd be this way naturally? Or is there a small part of you - on some level - that you think is reenacting this trope for the fun of it? What came first, you or the trope? * [[Tropers/IsaChan I]] know a girl who is of the Type 2 variety. She's nice to most of the members of the forum I know her from, but there's one guy that she always seems to look for reasons to be exasperated with. She then proceeds to do the passive-aggressive version of slapping him, blushing, and yelling, "BAKA!". She later revealed that she had a crush on the guy she always acted that way towards, and since then the passive-aggressive tsundere-ness has been a lot more understandable ''and'' a hell of a lot funnier, especially since the guy in question is [[ObliviousToLove totally oblivious]]. * This Troper's girlfriend is a Type B who favors The Violent Approach. One day, I'm getting [[BelligerentSexualTension kicked in the shins]] and being reminded that I'm an idiot (complete with a faint [[LuminescentBlush blush]] if you watch for it), the next I get [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther greeted with a hug]]. ** The same Troper knows another Tsundere, Type A, who favored The Helper tactic. She used it on me until I chose the Type B girl over her. * This Troper ''flips between'' types A and B. Typically Type B, but

can shift to Type A if the situation 'demands' it (i.e less familiar people around). * This Troper. I give people The Cold Shoulder when Im annoyed then I feel bad and since I suffer from {{Cannot Spit It Out}} I show my deredere side by being The Helper. * I'm tsundere even with the development of going from tsuntsun to deredere around my love interests. Poor guy I've been in love with for seven years can't get a break though. Probably my few yandere shades showing through. ---Wow... it's kind of interesting, reading about all these real-life Tsundere, isn't it? Not that ''I'' care what you think of people like me, of course. You know what, just... just go back to {{Tsundere}}. [-See if I care.] [--(''blush'')--] ---<<|TroperTales|>>

Tuckerization * [[@/{{evdebs}} This troper]], though not particularly famous, created a rather interesting bit of fanfic technology in the StarTrek universe that gained a bit of a following circa 2000 and wound up getting a walk-on as an expert in alien computer systems in a novel. * On the lines of the WarriorCats bit on the main page, [[@/{{sageheart}} this Troper]]/long-time Warriors fan spoke to the author and finally decided on a "warrior name" while meeting the author on tour. The author then asked her PERMISSION to use the name in the series when it was needed. It was later confirmed that even now the author remembers this troper and the name.

TurnUndead * This troper chose The Tower as his birthsign in Elder Scrolls 3 or 4 because he thought the Turn Undead power it granted allowed him to become undead at will. You have to admit, it's poorly worded. ** This troper believed the same thing for years.

TVGenius * This troper's little brother believes him to be this, and makes his life hell for it. It is slightly [[TruthInTelevison Truth in Television]] however, as the troper has virtually no social skills as a tradeoff to being able to remember plans and make new ones up on the fly. * TruthInTelevision for this troper's older brother - he's highly intelligent and analytical, and an incredible programmer and logician, but he has virtually no social skills and has only recently (at the age of ''21'') begun making close friends with girls. We're pretty sure we can trace it back to first grade, when he was bumped up from kindergarten a year early because he wasn't being challenged. He still

breezed through grade and middle school, but the boys in his class picked on him for being younger and smarter, and the girls either ignored him or thought he was ''[[CutenessProximity "adorable".]]'' When the time came for him to choose a high school, our parents were [[IdiotBall convinced that an all-boys' school would be better for him academically and socially.]] He was still bullied on by larger and older boys, and it's only thanks to [[ThisTroper his loving sister]] that his perception of women isn't completely skewed. [[BeyondTheImpossible And on top of that]] he ''still'' wasn't being challenged, so he breezed through all his classes until college, where he first learned what it felt like to ''not'' be smarter than his professors. * This Troper has been asked repeatedly to dumb down his language and has been called a "Walking Wikipedia page", to a point where I tried to become a diehard sports nut to avert this. I carried around an ironically-named idiot ball, however, by talking about Nascar like a scientist rather than a redneck fan. * This tropette went to school with a girl who was pretty close to this trope (although she was a senior when this troper was a freshman, the whole school knew about her). Apparently, in her freshman year, she resolved to get an [[TheBGrade A in every course, every semester...]]and she succeeded, presumably giving her ''sixteen flawless report cards.'' The teachers extolled her skill, declaring that she studied, not because she had to, but for her love of learning. Very possibly true, given that she took all honors and AP classes and won awards in [[BeyondTheImpossible virtually every subject.]] On top of that, she won every other sports award, being captain or at least MVP of every team she played for. She also had a laundry list of extracurriculars, several of which she founded and in all of which she held some high position. She has also written a book. [[IvyLeague She is now at Harvard.]] * Learned a whole bunch. Never really been challenged by any schoolwork that wasn't tedious, even up through my first year of college. Now my brain is full of stuff from 2 years of solid Troping. I can't see how this will come in handy, and people hate me for analyzing everything from ads to children's shows to my teacher's handwriting.

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TVTropesWillEnhanceYourLife * I found a lot of SoBadItsGood fanfiction... like My Immortal. I also found anime series I didn't know about and obscure foreign movies that could interest me. But the crappy fanfics are the best part. * I discovered my favorite anime/manga/novel series : SpiceAndWolf. * [[Tropers/SuperGex This Troper]] was just writing his fanfiction (SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION: It's called: Sonic and Gex: The Awesome Adventure and it's on FanFiction.net) and typed in Flanderization, then spell-checked it and found out that one of the choices was

Bowlderization! Looks like we've reached out to the programmers at Open Office.org! * [[Tropers/TroyMartin This Troper]] has had his life significantly improved (as in, I'm no longer a game addicted maniac with decent writing skills). I'm now a self-published author and gaming-community free thanks to this wonderful place. You are all so awesome, I tells ya. * [[Tropers/{{Sijo}} This Troper]] has been, his whole life, a watch(or read)-and-write kind of person. If only there were ONE single place where I could post about anything at anytime! Tried Wikipedia, but they got fussy with notability and copyrights. Then a friend mention TV Tropes... ;) * This Troper is often a GameMaster in various TabletopGames. I always was okay at it, but nothing special. Cue me [[CallToAdventure getting drafted to run another campaign]] after becoming [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife addicted to]] [[OrIsIt this site]]. Through great understanding of most RPG tropes and reading DarthsAndDroids and DMOfTheRings which I found due to ThisVeryWiki, I managed to concoct an epic campaign that already continues for 3 months of very regular play, where all my players are satisfied with almost every game session so far. The gaming group even expanded by 2 people thanks to the word of mouth! Feels legendary, and it's thanks to all you Tropers. * Thanks to TV Tropes i learned the MST3KMantra. Now i'm more openminded and watch shows that, in the past, i would have discarted as pure nonsense without even watching them. * When my John Milton class was discussing ''ParadiseLost'', we got to the topic one night of the intoxicating effects of the ForbiddenFruit. I mentioned that an "online discourse community" I belong to refers to the portrayal in literature of evil as a drug as "ThisIsYourBrainOnEvil." The class [[CrowningMomentOfFunny cracked up]], and the professor said we should put that on a t-shirt with an image of Adam and Eve eating the fruit. * [[Tropers/{{Agent0042}} This troper]] just enjoys the warm fuzzy feeling of realizing, "Hey, there are other people noticing this stuff too!" * This troper casually disregarded WizardsOfWaverlyPlace as "just another tween show" before TV Tropes. To put things in perspective, I'm watching it right now and will probably watch the rest of tonight's airings. Granted, I got into it [[FetishFuel for the wrong reasons]] but it's a good show and I probably wouldn't have watched without TV Tropes. * This Troper would like to give a ''huge'' "THANK YOU" to this website. Why? Well, I'm a GCSE student, and for my English Language GCSE, I need to do some speeches. Now, it was a Sunday, and I was surfing this website, or specifically, TroperTales. I was on the CMOA TT page, when I decided to go for the Public Speaking section. I idly remembered that I was doing a speech - oh, wait ''I was doing it the very next day, and I hadn't done anything towards it!'' Cue a mad dash to my room where I proceeded to write a speech that got me an A* grade. Thank you, TV Tropes! * This troper has found out more about her favorite VideoGame series

of all time: BackyardSports. * Before finding this site, I never knew there was a word for [[DefenestrateAndBerate throwing something out a window]]. * This troper got a short story published in a local magazine. She got a lot of positive feedback and has now decided to turn it into a full novel, which she intends on publishing one day. This novel is the longest she's ever worked on a project. What was it inspired by? TheUnfairSex. * Thanks to this site, this troper has made some very good friends, and has changed a lot since he first came to this site over two years ago. Before, he was a quiet shrinking violet who cared too much about what other people thought of him. Now, while he still has quiet moments, he is more outspoken about what he thinks, and knows that the only thing you should care about is what you think of yourself. If someone says something negative to me in an insulting way, I shrug it off and move on. Thank you, TV Tropes, for showing me how to be more confident in myself. * [[Tropers/{{Zandor6017}} This Troper]] has finished a book [[hottip:*:which will be listed if it gets published]] and started another. Some characters from the former are called Mooks, while in the latter, one of the main characters went off in a [[AxCrazy specific]] [[HeroicSociopath and]] [[BerserkButton highly]] [[ShapeshifterWeapon satisfying]] [[RuleOfFunny direction]].[[hottip:*: [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic His name is Axel, and he turns into an anthropomorphic axe]], because smashing his face repeatedly against a problem is just what he does.]] * I actually used some tropes in a essay explaining them and I got a very good grade. Thanks to this awesome webite, I was able to do my homework!! * This troper expanded her vocabulary, and is more critic and concious now. TvTropes may even help her to get into literature career in college, even gave her, finally after a lot of HeadScraching, the tittle for her story: she decided to name her story after a trope. It also saved this troper from her creative BrainBleach, and most likely will help her to write her story better. * [[Tropers/{{BrainedbySaucepans}} This Troper]] can proudly state that TVTropes may in fact have [[BeyondTheImpossible saved my life]] (or at least significantly extended it)! One of my main reasons for quitting smoking and switching to electronic cigarettes was so I wouldn't have to spend time away from my computer. Fellow tropers, my lungs thank you. * This troper was up until recently, working at a graveyard shift job that was really draining. When some of his co-workers asked why he had taken the job, he remembered a [[MoneyDearBoy certain article]], and instantly replied: "Money, dear boy," thus making him feel awesome and witty. Thanks TvTropes! * [[Tropers/{{Amandurrs}} This Troper]] was taking her AP European History exam and one of the prompts was about comparing Romanticism and the Enlightenment. I almost had a spaz attack in the exam room because I remembered the [[{{Romanticism versus Enlightenment}} Romanticism versus Enlightenment]] trope! And the trope totally helped me write my essay. Thank you TV Tropes! ^__^

* Thanks to TvTropes, I have discovered 3 great mangas: Franken Fran, Ibitsu, and Future Diary. Thank you so much, TvTropes! * At this troper's school, almost every website that could be remotely interesting is blocked. Then I found out TvTropes wasn't among those websites. * Do you often find yourself struggling to argue against InsaneTrollLogic online? Can't make a hole in their ChewbaccaDefense? [[Tropers/{{Ifreann}} This Troper]] was once like you, until I started to use ''[[AltumVidetur reductio ad]]'' ''[[CanisLatinicus tropum]]''. [[ConversationalTroping Phrase your responses in tropes]](bonus points for an AllBlueEntry) and watch as your [[TheAntagonist opponent]] suffers a [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife tab explosion]] and never gets around to responding! [[AWinnerIsYou You win!]] Thanks to this tactic, TVTropes is now my InfinityPlusOneSword for internet arguments. Case in point, how many tabs did you open while reading this tale? * Thanks to TvTropes, [[Tropers.{{Encrypted12345}} This Troper]] has discovered VisualNovels, the NasuVerse, NitroPlus, the {{Rance}} Series, TengenToppaGurrenLagann, MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha, and several awesome FanFiction. Thank you, TvTropes. Now excuse me while I go cry ManlyTears. * I felt that there was only one word for me: Weird, and not in a good way. I spend a lot of time on my own, and do in fact prefer thinking about some things to communicating them with people addionally (eg: Working on my own as apposed to with a group). This of couse, leads me to spending a lot of time on my own, although I have little diffulty TALKING to others and get lonely if alone for too long). I could go on, really. Yesterday, I was browsing troper tales and visited the "ShrinkingViolet" page. After doing some research stemming from a link on that page, it turns out I'm probably just introverted. Thank you, TV Tropes + Helpful Troper. I am weird no longer. ''Please, tell us of your trope-based enhancements...''

TVTropesWillRuinYourLife * I think in tropes sometimes, and in conversation has yelled out "Fridge Logic!" and received stares. Also, I should be working on homework that has to be done in the next four hours. And it's about seven hours worth. ** I never did finish that paper. I also got up at two in the morning just to check something. * Proof that This Troper's life is now completely ruined: She had her first dream with TV Tropes. And probably not the last. She was reading a page for Incredibly Cute Mustache, and there was a whole bunch of entries for short Russian animated films, such as {{Cheburashka}} (which actually exists, and no one on the show has anything ''close'' to a cute mustache), Candy (which doesn't), a show about talking blobs of candy - again, no one has a mustache, and another one about multicolored rocket ships. ** I also had a dream about the WildMassGuessing section. * This troper often struggles to not use wiki words in essays and

school papers. ** Same with this troper. Not only is he trying not to use wiki words in his essay, but is procrastinating with the wiki. ** This Troper has a mantra he has sticky-noted to monitor; Your English Teachers Are Not Tropers. *** ...I may have to use that now. ** Ditto here. This Troper was typing her Heart of Darkness paper and realized that she had just written "This trope is deconstructed by...". ** This troper has a bad habit of using tropes in polite conversation to relatives, fellow students, ect. ** This Troper is starting to ''think'' in wiki words... *** This troper now wishes life was a computer. Searching for a word in a book? Ctrl+F! Screwed up in an exam? Ctrl+Z! Casual conversation? Bold, italic, crossed, underlines, words and links to ThisVeryWiki and TheOtherWiki. ** This troper came ''this'' close to using the word "flanderization" in a college paper before realizing that his professor would have no idea what he's talking about. ** This troper actually ''did'' use "narm" in a Scrabble tournament. Thankfully, no one questioned my doing so. * Show of hands: How many of you followed a link to this site, only to still be clicking away nonstop for the next few months? *** Another show of hands; how many got detentions for troping when you should've been listening to the teacher? **** ''*raises hand quietly*'' ** If everyone who did have this happen to them posted about it here, the page would explode. ** Why don't you go look at that list of contributors? *** This Troper raises hand. This site ''has'' ruined my life. Girlfriend? Forget it, TvTropes. Life? Forget it, TvTropes. Food? Forget it, TvTropes. *** [Raises Hand]. I followed a link from GameFAQs, read the article, and decided to click a link (read: stuck my head in a rabbit hole), then another, then another, then another. Then I signed up. Then I made Tv Tropes my home page. I now bring my laptop to class with me and Trope while listening to lectures (I've actually came up with a ton of edits from Psychology). I also identify various tropes I see in my life. *** Whoa, that's the same way [[Tropers.ReikoKazama I]] got here! *** This troper came here from Cracked about five months ago. He has not left since. *** You can go about a week tops before someone on Halolz links you to TV Tropes. *** This troper got stuck here after researching ''TheRockyHorrorPictureShow''. I was looking for a script of the audience participation lines and found TVTropes instead... my life has never been the same... *** This troper is confused as how he got here, if it was from the Less Than Jack forum after clicking the link for MisattributedSong or if he came because he was searching for some idiot named Josu Yrin and got here because someone exemplified him in a trope.

* For me, I was never really addicted to TV Tropes. Sure I enjoyed viewing the pages, reading the articles, adding a trope here and there and creating a [[KirbysEpicYarn few]] of [[{{Up}} my own]] pages, as well as referencing them occasionally in an informal conversation. Then, one day, the Edit Page suggests the [[SarcasmMode fun idea]] to go join [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/topics.php TV Tropes Forums page]]. And let me tell you laconically: if TVTropesWillRuinYourLife, the [[IronicPunishment TV Tropes Forum Will Prove You Never Had One To Begin With]]. Because in the forums, trope knowledge and article references aren't a common instance there. No it's a ''requirement''. And the worst part- it's so damn addictive. Plus, because the page never announces new updates, it means I'm there constantly checking the forum page every 5 minutes. So yeah, thanks a lot TV Tropes Forums! You managed to suck whatever life I had left and obliterate it into smithereens. TakeItToTheForums my ass. * This troper can't read black, sans-serif text on a white background without hallucinating random dark blue links that aren't there thanks to this site. * I ran into a pole on my walk to school this morning. Why? Because I was engrossed in a TV Tropes entry on my iPod Touch. ** Same poster: Every morning I open two or three tabs of TV Tropes on my iTouch to last me through school. Come lunchtime I've completely forgotten my social life and ignore all my friends asking "What are you reading???" ** Also, today it was raining in the morning and after school I was walking home, reading a TV Tropes article (on my iPod again), and, not looking where I was walking, slipped and fell in a muddy puddle. * [[http://tpbmg.blogspot.com/2010/06/tvtropes-has-ruined-my-life.html This guy]] apparently. * My friend showed me this site and I can't help but noticing all kinds of tropes in my favorite video games. Damn him. ** And my favorite cartoons. I think to myself "I need to enter that into TV Tropes" and then I plan out what I will say. Then I pull my hair out. ** And This Troper, with Webcomics. She has literally 20-something tabs of webcomic pages open awaiting classification. * When I first found TV Tropes, I literally spent about twelve-tofourteen hours doing NOTHING but reading through it. ** Also, being a soulbonder, the videogame section of the uncanny valley page makes for a lot of unease and disbelief for me. * During an essay in English class about archetypes, this troper wrote that some character type had been averted. The teacher left a note saying "Nice try." * It is 1:30AM, and I have a paper due tomorrow. Naturally, I am here. ** Fuck, me too, except it's 2:13AM, and that 'paper' is actually two essays for my mid-term in college.... ** Thirded. There's a blank paper on my desk that's been there for [[ILied 3 hours]]. ** Forthed. It's 1 am and I have to get up for work in... oh shit. I have to get up at 3:30. G'night folks! *** GO! Save yourself!!! ** Fifthed. Not only is my paper due tomorrow, but I actually

considered citing the DeadpanSnarker page for a source. ** Sixthed. Posing a book report that I should be finishing in about three hours. Still have... seven pages to go... ** Seventhed. I have a 1 1/2 hour Psychology exam at 9:00 tomorrow morning, and I've been on here for about 5 hours now... ** Hey I'm number eight! Biggest project of Junuir year. Due at 7:45 am tomorrow. It is only 10:53 now, but I've been in front of the computer for 9 hours now. So obviously I'm here posting my thoughts... ** Ninthed - I have a two page essay due yesterday, still haven't started due to TvTropes * Can I have my wedding on TVTropes? Not that I'm getting married, but still. ** This Troper will probably ''die'' on TV Tropes. * There needs to be a trope concerning that it causes you to view TV differently. I'm showing concerns about people on TV Tropes reacting negatively to a story I'm writing, and I'm seeing [[IdiotBall Idiot Balls]] in {{Series/Heroes}} where I shouldn't. * I was fortunate. I was able to watch Watchmen, list all the tropes i saw, identify all the moments in which the narrative became a little forced, and still liked the movie (i still do). ** Also, the time i spend in tvtropes have reduced over the time to a razonable extent. * [[@/LadyNorbert This troper]] wrote [[http://ladynorbert.livejournal.com/875038.html this entry]] on LiveJournal. Send help. ** [[@/LoonShia I]] feel (very) slightly ashamed over the fact that I clicked every single of those [[PotHole potholes]]. * I glimpsed this site a couple times from irregular webcomic. Eventually, I read a page. One year later, I'm still here. ** Seconded ** Third * I just spend three-and-a-half hours writing up an article for [[{{United93}} United 93]] after discovering that there was no such article to be found. [[SelfDeprecation And then came here to brag about my gross mis-management of time]]. It's now 3:30 in the morning, and I have class in six hours. It was WorthIt. * @/{{Excel-2009}}. It's finally happened. On 2 November 2009, my sister walked in on me and said "What's with you and that site?" * This site has taken over my life! Every Lent I give it up, and forty days later, it's back to troping as usual! HELP!! ~{{@/Lale}} * @/{{Miso}} over here has a small set of fan fictions she's been ever-so-lovingly writing for months. She uses several tropes as springboards, to the point that if you shoved all the fics into a Trope page, they'd take up quite a bit of space. * I've been sitting here for eight hours. I can't stop. Please, someone, help me. I currently have over 100 tabs open, and I can't bring myself to get up and go to bed until I finish reading them. Yet I tend to find something new and interesting each tab. I thought this would stop, given that I've been here for about four years, but I find myself reading more than I did when I first got drawn in. Gah! ** Ugh, seconded. One time I opened so many tabs my browser crashed. *** Same thing happened to me, multiple times

* TV Tropes has caused me to start troping all my creative input into my assignments. For instance, I started writing a very thin plot for a basic computer game I have been programming. I started troping all parts of it. And working on my UNIX assignment, I have been programming a security login system, with username and password. The password? {{The Password Is Always Swordfish}} * TV Tropes was mention in [[@/{{Melesmelda}} this troper]]'s school newspaper as a great way to procrastinate from schoolwork. * I regularly hang out on the Cartoons & Animation board on GameFAQs (or used to) and was always seeing links to a site called "TV Tropes". One day I decided to see what it was and followed the link. After reading a bit I saw an interesting looking link to another page, so I clicked it. I'm sure you all know where this story is going. To sum it up, I kept exploring and eventually allowed a part of my soul to be consumed by the site (which we all know is the price you must pay to become a troper). ** Something similar happened to me. I was making a criticism on sequels in general, when another guy mentioned this site, but warned me of staying too long here... Obviously, I didn't listen. WHYYYY???? * It all started out with a Google search for [[WelkinWeasels Welkin Weasels]]...And now I get on this website EVERY TIME I GET ON THE COMPUTER!!! WHY?!? WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR SITE SO [[GoshDangItToHeck GOSH DARN ADDICTING?!?!?!?]] * [[@/TheNoun This troper]] [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial has never had forty-three pages of tvtropes open at one time and has never spent seven hours exploring the site.]] * [[@/{{Mariko-chan}} This troper]] has this site as one of her homepages. So, every time she opens Explorer, she has YouTube, Yahoo, GaiaOnline, and TvTropes. * [[@/FourtyTwoHz This troper]] spent a few classes reading tvtropes on his laptop. As a result, he got a 11% in a Physics test, where he used to get AT LEAST 50%. * This troper has had to install a Firefox add-on that organises his tabs in a tree pattern just so I can follow a train of thought on this site. Sixty-plus tabs no longer scare me. ** Please post the site you can get that addon from!!!!! ** I found it. URL: https://addons.mozilla.org/enUS/firefox/addon/5890/. *** I've found the above link to be ''extremely'' useful. Thanks! * I stumbled unto this site by accident. I've been logged on ever since. Damn you, TvTropes! '''DAMN YOU TO HELL!''' * [[SarcasmMode Thanks to the miracle of]] TVTropes, my college assignments are always late, my exam revision is inadequate, and I've stopped doing a lot of things I used to enjoy, like going to the gym. * While watching ''{{Film/Avatar}}'' in the theater, I burst out laughing when they actually called the mineral they were mining "{{Unobtainium}}," much to the puzzlement of my fellow moviegoers. ** Avatar is perhaps the best example of this. According to the "Similar Stories, References" tab on that page, this movie will heavily test how much your entertainment life was "changed" when viewing TVTropes and/or taking a Media or Film studies course. Judging on why such a tab exists for this title, it seems like a lot of

tropers here failed the test. * I tried using {{PotHole}}s in RealLife and succeed in doing it. ** And [[@/FeoTakahari I've]] completely failed at same. My sense of humor relies heavily on understatement and misdirection, and potholes were a revelation to me, what with the ability to say two things at once. Now verbal conversation feels limited in comparison. * [[@/{{Abrulz}} This troper]] blames xkcd. In one example, after seeing ''[[{{TwentyTwelve}} 2012]]'', I tried to explain to my brother about RedemptionEqualsDeath. ** Well, [[YouHaveBeenWarned you]] ''[[SchmuckBait were]]'' [[SnicketWarningLabel warned.]] Actually, for This Troper, it was the opposite: she found {{xkcd}} through TvTropes. * Ok, first it has to be known that [[@/{{The Mysterious Mister Imperial}} This Troper]] goes to a university that offers a course called "The Music of the Lord of the Rings". The instructor claimed that Villains don't get very good songs; I countered with {{Villain Song}}, and sent her a link. Have not yet heard back from her as to whether or not her life is ruined. I also presented a link to my philosophy professor, {{Card Carrying Villain}} as a counter to Plato. He seems quite happy, for now. I will endeavor to keep the Hivemind posted on their conversion into {{One of Us}}. * Subverted. It barely affects me because I already spent all day doing nothing on the web, so sometimes I link to this site, forgetting what it does to people. It's nice for me but I think I might accidentally cause TV Tropes to consume the internet. * Subverted by This Troper. I am the only Troper amongst my group of diversely nerdy friends and will often quote Trope Names when we encounter them while watching TV/videogames. It usually gets a good laugh. * Today my mom was watching a movie I wasn't paying attention to at all, the few times I did I succesfully predicted (1) A trap (2) A flashback and (3) A little girl getting wounded. My mom kept asking me if I had seen the movie before! It was fun and nerdy at the same time. * This Troper just submitted a short paper about a movie/novel to his professor riddled with TV tropes links. * This Troper HAS to drop tropes in her daily conversation now, like {{Narm}}, {{Squick}}, {{Crowning Moment of Awesome}}, etc. I mostly get blank stares. Still, staying up until 3:00 on a school night because I couldn't pull myself away can't be too bad for me, can it? (sheepish grin) And I believe I'm slowly turning my best friend into a Troper as well; she now references {{The Woobie}} on a regular basis when we discuss various TV shows. * This troper once spent 2-3 hours ''straight'' on TV Tropes reading a bunch of random articles cause he couldn't stop finding more to read that got him interested. Also does not help that he now thinks in terms of tropes like FanDumb. * This troper has started using trope names in school things to explain his point. * After avoiding using TV Tropes term on formal conversation, this troper finally gave up and exactly wrote [[ChekhovsGun Chekhov's Gun]] and {{Mood Whiplash}} on her exam when asked to describe Anton Chekhov's play and Epic Theatre. This troper does worry whether the

lecturer understands it or not. * This Troper has been on TVTropes for the past 3 hours. She is writing a story and constantly thinks of what Tropes are in this story. She also applies Tropes to real life situations... * This Troper ''thinks'' in tropes now. I'll be thinking of something and I'll get the impression that hotlinks are showing up in my {{Inner Monologue}}. It starting to scare me. I've begun using tropes to descibe things too. Like the fact that I'm the {{Pollyanna}}. * This tropes has meaning to do the laundry for the past hour and a half. But tvtropes just. Won't. Release. Her. * This troper has used several trope names in school reports, including MagnificentBastard (but censored), {{Bowdlerize}}, {{Disneyfication}}, ChekhovsGun, AIIsACrapshoot, and more. * I have often used the term "This Troper" in conversation when refering to myself. ** ThirdPersonPerson! * This troper is a borderline NightmareFetishist. Operative word being borderline. Usually, I would just creep myself out with subliminal advertising, weird music, creepy anime, etc. Then I found this site. Remember how I said I'm a BORDERLINE NightmareFetishist? Yeah. I will ''never sleep again''. Also, I'm always on here. But I was on the computer all day before this website, so it's not much of a difference. If anything it's just ruined [[TVTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary my vocabulary.]] * [[@/DeltaOne This Troper]] started watching [[StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]] again. Now, having read ''so much'' TVTropes, I now find the exposition and AsYouKnow ''utterly'' frustrating. Most recent example? "If we remove the Dax symbiont, Jadzia will die!" in front of Jadiza, Sisko, Bashier and the Chief of the Symbiosis Commission - i.e., the four people in the galaxy who ''don't'' need this point explaining. * Apart from consequently thinking in tropes and trope names when dealing with media, I would like to use [[PotHole Pot Holes]] in everything I write to [[SarcasmMode make clear what I mean]] or [[RuleOfFun just for fun]]. * This troper now spends more time ''troping her own work'' than actually working on it. ** Same. This troper looks forward to the day when she finally posts her FanFiction... so she can write a page for it. * This troper and his brother point out things like {{Narm}} or [[CrowningMomentofAwesome CMOAs]] when watching things. * Several tropes have slithered their way into my everyday vocabulary and have even replaced some words. Whenever I want to say Antagonist, the trope BigBad comes out instead. * This troper is always applying to movies that she watches in film class, and then checks this wiki after to see if the movies under that trope. * This troper is now more interested in tropes than she is in actual fiction. Oy vey. * This troper was part of a focus group for a movie I am legally obliged not to talk about. Either way, when asked certain questions, I responded with a long odyssey about FridgeLogic and the abuse of certain tropes to the extent that they ''were'' bad. They responded

with facepalms and groans. It appears that Hollywood does indeed take note of us. * This troper keeps thinking of ways to add on to specific tropes. * [[@/{{Jedielf}} What do you mean, "will?" It already HAS!]] ** Sorry, that's [[DarthWiki/TVTropesRuinedYourLife a different department.]] * I can't even remember what brought me here, all I know is I can't stop editing! HELP!!! * I keep forgetting that Word is not this site, and hence I have been known to randomly capitalise words that shouldn't be capitalised and not leave spaces between those words. That's right. I'm starting to think phrases like GirlOnGirlIsHot is all one word. * This editor is a subversion of this trope. He is used to working on different tasks at the same time, so it isn't usually a problem. He will simply switch off the computer when he has [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean more important things to do]]. * The same Italian troper that [[TroperTales told his tale]] in [[{{TroperTales/AwesomenessByAnalysis}} the Awesomeness By Analysis page]] [[http://answers.wikia.com/wiki/What_are_the_basicfeatures_and_element s_of_narrative has also thrown another bait]] the same way (that is, Wiki Answers). [[MagnificentBastard More]] [[ManipulativeBastard tropers]] [[XanatosGambit to]] [[BatmanGambit come]]... [[DeathNote just as planned.]] * This troper now has TV Tropes as his home page. And when I typed BlatantLies into the search bar with my sister watching and she asked what it was, I responded "ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin". * Aside from putting names to conventions I was already aware of(and a very very large number I wasn't) [[AvertedTrope Tv Tropes has done little to ruin the life]] of {{Tropers/Anaheyla}}. It is a rare day when I find myself looking at a work as merely the sum of its parts instead of viewing it as a whole. In fact, I often find myself annoyed by people whose lives ''were'' ruined by TvTropes as their critical views of a series [[StopHavingFunGuys will just ruin the fun for everyone]]. The biggest impact this place has had on me, in fact, was to expand my (admittedly lacking) knowledge of pop culture. * I find it impossible not to think about what tropes I might find on the page for a work I'm reading/watching and extremely difficult to resist checking before I've finished it. It's even more difficlt when waiting for the U.K to catch up with America. * You know you're addicted to TV Tropes when you're singing 'The Cave' by Mumford and Sons like so: -->'''Me:''' And I will hold up hope / and I will let you trope / on the n...wait, what?! What did I say?! Oh, son of a lemon. ** Tv Tropes has also caused [[{{Tropers/ICantThinkOfAWittyName}} me same troper here]] to call people lemons and make up inventive swears (ever yelled "son of Voldemort's left nipple!!" in public? Well, if you thought that would get you stared at, ItGotWorse when I fell over and said "oh, a green vuvuzela and a pineapple stick!!" in frustration. Cue a '''very''' awkward silence, in which someone asked if I was from a mental hospital in Africa. BigNo occurred and several

people walked away feeling light-hearted knowing that there was someone out there who was weirder than them) * Seriously, I don't even remember how I got here. All I know is that now I use tropes in casual conversation and as recommend it as a resource for anybody writing anything. I've addicted several people to this place and now I can't seem to stop looking for tropes in my life. Finally I can't quite enjoy movies the way I used to. I enjoy them differently, not more or less. It's just that now I make a game out of all the tropes I can spot. * Made me realise most fanworks are much worse than I could ever imagine. Upside, got to know {{Rule34}} a [[strike:little]] lot better (why isn't there a HighOctaneFetishFuel entry?) but also noticed there's a Rule 35, almost anything kinky can generate a {{Squick}} response. Wusses. * The "go on, have fun!" at the bottom of the main page is really, really ominous. * Oddly [[AvertedTrope averted]] by my brother, who laughs at some of the punny trope names and spends a few minutes here or there on works pages, but he has not even shown signs of succumbing. Played straight with me, of course. * [[AllBlueEntry Pfft.]] [[{{Tropers/PhanOfDP333}} Not This Troper!]] [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife TvTropes has not ruined my life.]] [[BlatantLies I can say without a doubt that I'm perfectly fine.]] [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial I am capable of leaving the site and do not spend hours here that I could spend doing something else. I am fine, honest]][[VisibleSilence ...]][[TemptingFate it's just a website, right?]] [[SurvivalMantra I am fine.]] [[CreepyMonotone I'm fine.]] [[SanitySlippage I'm fine.]] ''[[MadnessMantra I'm fine...]]'' [[hottip:* : On a more [[SincerityMode serious note,]] [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife because of this site,]] [[FetishFuel specifically]] [[NightmareFuel cert]][[HighOctaneNightmareFuel ain]] [[WildMassGuessing arti]][[FridgeBrilliance cl]][[FridgeLogic es,]] [[FridgeBrilliance I've noticed things about various fictional works that I wouldn't have noticed before.]] Sometimes this is a good thing because now I notice things I didn't before, but sometimes it's [[{{Squick}} really freaky!]] Not to mention, like some others, I can't even go on the internet without coming here at least for a few minutes, I'm so obsessed...]] [[VisibleSilence ...]] [[OverlyLongGag I'm fine.]] ''[[HellIsThatNoise I'm fiiiinnneeee...]]'' * [[{{Tropers/arcana07}} I've]] been going to TV Tropes for just about two months now. After a month of being here, I had to make an account. This week I've started noticing that words and phrases such as "{{anvilicious}}", "{{nakama}}", "{{crowning moment of awesome}}", and "{{high octane nightmare fuel}}" have been sneaking their way into at least my internal vocabulary. And I haven't been able to get more than 3 hours' sleep in about a month and a half, thanks to TV Tropes. Oh, and I'm typing this out while I'm at my desk at work while on my lunch break. TV Tropes has officially ruined my life. * [[Tropers/TheNoun This troper]] was introduced to TvTropes on a forum that she once frequented heavily. She only stopped because of TvTropes. This troper has occasionally found herself with anywhere between 4 to 18 tabs open at any one time. Any link that leads off the

site will be opened in a new tab and closed as soon as it's served it's purpose. There may be ''one'' tab dedicated to YouTube for music, but everything else is TvTropes. She's even cited TvTropes as a source for a paper once. She's also already ensnared a few of her friends into the same trap. How many people will she take down with her next time? * [[Tropers/TheAppleFreak This troper]] was, like the above troper, introduced to this site through a forum that I frequent. That was two years ago. I'm still here. I've cited TV Tropes in several high school papers, I've had at the most 250 tabs open in Safari at one point all from TV Tropes (the extra RAM in my computer helped ease the tremendous load, but it still took a full two minutes to kill the program), and Tropology has permeated my standard speaking habits. It's bookmarked pretty high up on my list of bookmarks, and many pages in my history will read something from this site. And that's [[ItGotWorse only at home.]] * This troper has a hard time enjoying science fiction anymore on account of becoming familiar with three tropes: ScienceMarchesOn, TechnologyMarchesOn, and {{Zeerust}}. And not just old sci-fi, either, but ''new'' sci-fi as well; I'm always thinking "Sure, it looks sleek and futuristic ''now'', but in ten years? It will look just as outdated as the stuff it purports to be old." * This troper was considered a prodigy before learning about this page. Thanks to my former intelligence I can barely pass the subjects in college now. * This troper can't read a book without checking TVtropes every day to see what tropes are in it. Unless I do that, I can't enjoy any book. * I have spent countless nights browsing tv tropes. All night long. Straight. The most tabs I've had open was 195 and it made my browser lag horrendously. I've even gone to tv tropes while at school. Needless to say, I didn't get much research done. * This troper was about to ask someone out... until the Romance Tropes suggested that he shouldn't. Dammit. * [[@/AckSed This troper]] has been on it for three years and there is no more space for new memories - it's all taken up with TV Tropes entries. Consequently, I now directly modify the URL because it's faster to remember the trope name than click the link... but have the "here/now" memory of a fruit fly. Oh yeah, and my first instinct upon finding something new is seeing if there's a trope page for it. [-Help.--] ** And recently I was called outside by a bouncer because some git blamed me for smashing a glass. Later, I said I'd been scared because he was a "ScaryBlackMan". "Isn't that a bit racist?" "I mean, scary ''bouncer''". [[SarcasmMode Thanks TV Tropes]]. * This troper is currently in school as she types this. I'm suppose to be researching for a paper to write. Guess where I ended up? (and yes, I have been on tv tropes for the duration of the class.) * If my browser is open and I don't go anywhere within the second, I subconsciously go to TVTropes. I used to wonder why I did it. Now I know that I just can't help but endlessly stumbling through these halls. * This troper makes a game out of how many tropes he can spot in his

own comics and writing. He also likes to yell out "Narm!" whenever something narmy happens in a show or movie he's watching. * I should '''''really''''' be doing my homework. * This troper should be listening to his lecture right now. * This troper was talking to a girl she didn't know at school about ''AceAttorney'' and randomly dropped the term "EstrogenBrigadeBait". She recognized it as a trope and was shocked at seeing me as a troper. Yep, it's ruined ''both our lives''. * I too have fallen victim to the dreaded [[WikiWalk time sink]][=/=]EntryPimp[=/=][[BrowserNarcotic tab explosion]] phenomenon that has eaten so much of our lives. But it can [[ItGotWorse get worse]]. Let's just say that TVTropesAsAGatewayDrug + NoExportForYou = {{Angrish}}. * This troper has started to ruin movies for his family. Every time this troper sees a trope he recognizes, he calls it out. "There's a Trope for that" is fast becoming a well-known phrase in his house, and if any of his family members see something anything like a trope, they ask him "Is that a trope?" He recently turned his younger brother onto the site, and smiles with pride whenever he hears him talk about recognizing tropes in fiction. * How about TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Chem Lab? This troper got to talking with her lab partner about TV Tropes, and an hour and a half later, our magnesium still hadn't oxidated. Whoops. * Happily [[{{AvertedTrope}} averted]] by [[@/{{LOLin8or}} this troper]], who has NOT done any of the following: *** Used tropes in normal conversion *** Thought of movies/videogames/books/etc. as a collection of tropes *** Used more than 5 tabs while browsing TV Tropes (3 of those were for Facebook, YouTube, and Newgrounds) *** Spent more than 2 hours on TV Tropes (I already wasted all my time on the internet anyway) OR *** Had my soul stolen by the wiki. * This troper has been on TV Tropes for a few months and the devil has consumed him. He must read to his interested girlfriend a wide variety of tropes at any given time... and adding our own contributions in the process. Thank God she loves tropes - I would be single by now! * Not TV Tropes in general, but reading {{Just Bugs Me}} pages ruined this troper's enjoyability for some of his favorite series. * I'm so addicted to the Homestuck TvTropes pages that it is actually preventing me from reading through Homestuck itself. * Thanks to this damn website I can predict where most shows/movies I watch are going, and then accidentally blurt out my predictions when I'm watching them with my friends. Now they think I'm a spoilsport and way too cynical. * This troper first came to TV Tropes while nostalging over Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas and came to its page, looked through, figuring it was some minor fan site or something. Then on GameFAQS there was a user with a name like tvtropes_addict. I would have ignored it, but he was posting in the same topic as me. Now I should note I didn't realize the connection until later. Then I went to this site and the rest was just a blur... * This troper could be out there doing something great. But nope,

instead she is here. ''Thanks'' TV Tropes... * All of you tropers did this to me. All of you, with your smooth writing and link dropping. All those links, stuck together in perfect harmony, in just a way that it could slowly drive a man mad. Just a click, or a clatter of the keys to look up my favorite books, or movies. It used to be manageable.But after a while it got worse. The tropes, they beckoned. Soon it was every afternoon, tropes this, tropes that, I could barely get away. If I wrote in my English class, I'd dissect the stories I wrote for tropes later. And so I joined in, hoping to curse others with this tragedy. Thanks for ruining entertainment forever guys. I could've done something with my life by now but no... * Last night I had a dream where I and some other people were trapped as slaves on an alien spaceship, and forced to fish for spacefish with a net and a hole in the hull. The first thing I thought of in my dream was "Man, this would have made a great trope image for WeWillUseManualLaborInTheFuture". * Averted - I think being TVTropes savvy just landed me a job. Of course, {{YMMV}} if that's a good thing or not - but I really wanted one. * [[@/AsterSelene This troper]] was writing a response paper for ''The Narrative of Frederick Douglas'' and was writing at how Douglass runs a risk at talking about how he learned to read and write; he even implies it a bit when referring to the boys who taught him. The urge to write "Douglass even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this when..." came up. * This troper once stopped by at this site to look around. Soon, he had tabs of many tropes up. Since then, [[NightmareFuel he has never been the same...]] * [[{{Tropers/Twentyfists}} This troper]] is addicted to this site. And it's actually having an adverse effect on his literary criticism tendencies. He has become obsessed with spotting [[MarySue Mary Sues]] and [[{{Ubermensch}} Ubermenschs]] in any work, and he's more than once confused an Ubermensch with a [[{{NietzscheWannabe}} Nietzsche Wannabe]]. * This troper doesn't blame TV tropes for his unfortunate Genre Saviness. Both of his parents are doctors and DangerouslyGenreSavvy and have thus been ruining the endings to media for his entire life. * Ever since the advent of TVTropes, it is ''absolutely impossible'' for me to use the word "ironic" without quintuple-checking to make sure it actually ''[[IsntItIronic is.]]'' * In June, this troper was linked here from Know Your Meme. I wasted my whole summer browsing TVTropes. Now, I'm addicted to Dr. McNinja and MST3K, and I have to refrain from using tropes in my conversation, or when I'm watching my Tv shows. * This troper tropes everything, from book he's reading in English class to [[{{MagicTheGathering}} Magic: The Gathering]]. Also, he made this edit at a time when he should have been studying for a mid-term exam. * [[Tropers/StongRadd This Troper]] justifies this trope as it is the only good thing he has to do. * This troper is now stuck in a ''perpetual'' {{Humans Are Bastards}}

thought process thanks to TV Tropes. But I actually feel better with that. * [[Tropers/{{prettycoolguy}} This Troper]] discovered this site when its AffectionateParody Uncyclopedia article was the article of the day. I searched up the site right after. The first article I went on? JumpTheShark. Next? TheMovie. Third? ProductPlacement. Six mounths later, most of my social life has gone towards this site, making me much less active, I use [[TvTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary Trope Speak]] in everyday conversation, and media has never looked the same. On a positive note, however ,I've discovered ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, a site that I now often visit and laugh with , due to it's overeferencing in pretty much every article. The source to watch my first TheNostalgiaCritic video? In ReviewsAreTheGospel, clicking onto [[Main/Rock-A-Doodle Rock-a-Doodle]] going to the review link. * I think it's a given most of us here have a problem with talking in tropes. But I have a question: is it still TVTropesWillRuinYourLife if you start to ''dream'' in tropes, or does it go to a [[BeyondTheImpossible whole new level?]] * Day Three: pretty soon I will have been stuck since last year. * [[{{@/Tidal_Wave_17}} This troper]] used to consider TvTropes a safe haven, a place of peace and prosperity that he could go to at the end of the day filled with annoying classmates and parents. However, he recently read an article which stated that you ''need'' to interacte with people, even annoying people to survive in todays social society. Even though you could make as many friends as you want on here, but it can never replace the real social interaction you get with real people. * TvTropes made This Troper feel [[NoSympathy guilty]] for [[{{Understatement}} not minding]] [[DoubleStandard double standards]]. For crying out loud, I have AspergersSyndrome, and people with Aspergers often think that the world should be in a certain order. But no, I should StopBeingStereotypical, in all ways. ** Not to mention my parents don't understand most {{tropes}}. Like when I told my mom about BreakTheCutie, she didn't "get it." That trope is now HarsherInHindsight. ** And then when my sister's BlackBestFriend (DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything?) came up, and I mentioned WhereDaWhiteWomenAt ([[InnocentInaccurate I didn't know that it was so controversial.]]) [[SelfDeprecation I am now kicking myself while typing this.]] ** ItGotWorse. I told my mom I spent my free time on a writing site (but ''technically'' didn't mention TvTropes), and she made me write a story of when I got in trouble. Boo. ** And finally, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking some of the tropes just]] ''[[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking sound]]'' [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking lame]]. * Doubly subverted in the case of this troper. As a drama student, he saw things in this way before... So TVTropes shouldn't ruin his life, right? Nope, ItGotWorse. * [[Tropers/AdelePotter This Tropette]] stumbled across the website when she googled "AVeryPotterMusical quotes" just for fun. She read the page for AVPM. She clicked on tropes to learn what they meant.

Nearly a year later, she's still here. * I'm this for two reasons. I spend too much time reading this (when i could be having fun playing games) and the other part is a lot of Troper Tales, stupid WMG (the timelords, hahuri, etc) and huge focus on anime and doctor who have just made me feel a lot more disallusioned with humanity. People even admitting to liking things related to anime, doctor who (and shipping, mentioning "i have aspergers", etc) are instantly met with suspicion from me as my first thought is that i shouldn't talk to crazy people. I haven't lost friends over it, but its kinda frustrating thinking so negatively of people i randomly talk to. * This Troper has had experienced this trope. In my first semester, in my school, this troper has this Digital Design major that takes up half of his High School hours(tis' a unique school it is). Whilst searching something on the internet one September morning, I cam across a TV Trope article that got my attention. Remembering the fact he liked that website, he decided to go visit it for a little while. What became a little while, turned into an entire semester of unfinished work. Because of this site, my grades are lower than before, and my enjoyment for entertainment has suffered, becoming GenreSavvy with life and love by the day. Perhaps I made an unconscious Faustian pact, trading happiness for knowledge. It really is our lot as Tropers in life isn't it? As of now, since all the other classes(English and Precalculus) are done and over with, [[TheDeterminator I can focus on getting my grades back up with]]. Cue HardWorkMontage. * This special minded troper always laughed at situations like all the ones mentioned above...guess who hasn't done their Math homework in two days because of THIS PAGE?---* This troper was looking for a porn related topic and stumbled upon this site....then found out the next night that more than just porn troeps abound on this site. * Since this troper's History teacher doesn't collect his students notes, he allows them to write whatever they want, as long as they do the assignment. This troper has actually added tv tropes markup to his notes, including the brackets and potholes. * The first time this troper found TvTropes, he was on for 6 hours straight. Unfortunately, he went on again. And again. And again. You know where this is going.... * This Troper's boyfriend is OBSESSED with Tv Tropes, and kept persuading her to give it a try. I'm always on the internet and didn't want another distraction. I was bored one day, he sent me a link to it. I'm hooked ... damn it. * I consider TV Tropes to be a manifestation of what RichardDawkins called a "meme". No, not meme as in MemeticMutation. Memes are the cultural and behavioural analogue for genes, designed to be easily imitable and be spread like TheVirus. They can self replicate, mutate and respond to selective pressures. Religion, with its imitable practices and claims of "Godidit", is an example of a meme as Dawkins conceived it. Seeing TV Tropes as a Virus is very simple, really. Take TV Tropes. Then take a structure of a Virus. We all know Viruses are simple packets of DNA encased in a protein capsule. When the Virus

comes in contact with a Cell, the Virus injects its genetic code, merging with the Cell's DNA and converting it to the point that the Cell's DNA actually produces more of the viral DNA. Replace TheVirus with ThisVeryWiki, Viral DNA with Tropes, and the Cell with You, and that is why TVTropesWillRuinYourLife. * ''There will be no social life, except social life in the form of Tropes. There will be no love, except PerverseSexualLust. There will be NoFourthWall, no sense of reality, no contentment in RealLife. When we are beyond the Fourth Wall we shall have no more need for reality. There will be no distinction between surprise and recognition. There will be no curiosity and enjoyment about new plots. All competing plot devices will be torn apart and incorporated. But always, always there will be the intoxication of troping, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of editing, the sensation of providing examples and analysis to make ThisVeryWiki expand. '''[[NineteenEightyFour If you want a picture of the future,]] [[http://www.xkcd.com/609/ imagine a Troper clicking on Wiki Words... forever.]]''''' * Trope Trope Trope.... Masturbation anyone? * TV tropes will ruin my story, more like it. I can't write anything without saying "OMG IT'S A CLICHE TROPE! FIX FIX FIX!" Fortunately, TropesAreNotBad. * I spend too much time adding to the TroperTales section of the TVTropes Wiki. Such as right now. ** It's to the point now that [[ArcWords every other word I say]] is either TvTropes or a trope. My friends stare at me blankly whenever I mention either. *** [[ItGetsWorse And then]] one trope gets stuck to my attention for longer than 10 minutes. * I was linked here by accidentally looking at somebody's signature in a forum. It said "Damn you TvTropes! Why must you ruin my life? * At [[Tropers/QuackorTheFowl this troper's]] school, there's free wifi. A few classes allow me to use my iPod touch during class. TV Tropes is one of the few websites on the school network that isn't blocked. Do the math. * I was sucked in when I read over my friend's shoulder. Then I was exploring on my own. Three months later I LOST A WEEK OF MY LIFE TO THIS HELLHOLE!!! Now we all quote tropes, I wrote a speech for class based off of a trope, AND I OVERDOSED ON COCA-COLA JUST SO I COULD EDIT THIS PAGE [[{{Angrish}} DHEWBHUIufufno]]....... * This troper clicked on the NotWhatItLooksLike link from another page. That was six months ago. I now skip lunch in a computer lab & stay up until my eyes are too tired to focus on the tropes pages. Thankfully, I had no social life to begin with, and I'm a firm believer that sleep is a symptom of caffine deprivation. * When I was linked here last year...got addicted. Proof: When I was staying in the hospital because I had penumonia(spelling?)...hospital had wi-fi...besides YouTube, this was the only website I visited for the whole time (6am to 12mn)...I stayed there for about 3 days...in addition half of my vocabulary are ''tropes''. Visiting TVTropes also made me very GenreSavvy And...it's my first full year here!

[[{{Catchphrase}} True story]]. * Dammit TVtropes, why are you so ADDICTING! [[{{Angrish}} HNNGGGGGG]] My grades have gotten [[{{Understatement}} a little bit worse]] after I found out about this site. I stay up until 12 just exploring this wiki! * My pops was fixing a lamp, and being stupid like he does, he puts the lampshade on my head. Most people would think, "Dude, what the hell?" Me? "Oh no, ''I've'' been [[IncrediblyLamePun Lampshaded]]!!!" * This Tropes almost fell asleep during her Social Studies (History) OGT (Ohio Graduation Test; it's a standardized test you have to pass to graduate) because the previous night, she stayed up late reading the tropes in the indexes for MagicAndPowers and SpeculativeFictionTropes. She couldn't focus on the page, got a headache writing extended responses, and frequently mixed up words. * '''''[[AC:[[{{Warhammer 40000}} It is probably the 41st Millennium.]] For more than a hundred minutes This Troper has sat immobile on his computer. He is the master of his imagination by the will of the Tropes, and [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome master of a million words by the might of his inexhaustible clicks]]. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of [[RealLife Real Living]]. He is a Carrion Contributor of TV Tropes on which a thousand minutes that should have been used for something productive are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly leave.]]'''''\\ \\ '''''[[AC:Yet even in his lifeless state, This Troper continues his eternal reading. Mighty indexes cross [[TheInternetIsForPorn the porninfested miasma of the Internet]], the only route between distant places, their way lit by the servers, the manifestation of the Tropes' will. Various editors give battle in a trope's name on uncounted webpages. Greatest amongst This Troper's <anything he writes> are the <insert trope here> <insert description here>. Their articles in arms are legion: the <insert another trope> and countless <insert prominent example>, the ever vigilant <another briefly stated example> and the <example with too elaborate and unnecessary description> to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from [[RealLife real people, real duties, real jobs - and worse]]. ]]'''''\\ \\ '''''[[AC:To be a troper in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the addictive and most ruinous website imaginable. [[TVTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary Forget the power of vocabulary and studying, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned.]] Forget the promise of reality and plot surprise, for in the {{GRIM DARK}}NESS of your own far future [[TvTropesWillRuinYourLife there is only TROPE. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of browsing and surfing, and the laughter of thirsting moderators.]]]]''''' * This troper had a dream last night in which his sister got tackled into a pool, thensucked into a giant fan and died. The only thing i could see was blood in the water, and i Screamed "My sister is Dead!". Then i realised how much ham and narm that had, and i woke up.Is it a

delight to have a potential nightmare denounced narm thanks to tvtropes? * This troper has a placement test to get into college tomorrow morning, and has been coming to a library this past week to study for it via internet excercises. As we all know WritersCannotDoMath, so all I really have to do is the math parts, right? I've been here everyday this week instead. Today, the last day before the test, and after a year and 4 months of lurking, I've finaly created an account, edited a page, added a few pages to my watchlist, and haven't looked at any algebra since last Friday, which is the one day I studied, at home. Thank you, TVTropes * [[Tropers/ElodieHiras I]] commonly refers to tropes in RealLife. I talk to my RPG group about BreakingTheFourthWall, talk about some characters being BadassNormal, noticed they have the entire collection of MahouSenseiNegima (I heard about it here), [[IKnowKungFu I know Karate]], noiced how one of the other guys at the karate class did un UnnecessaryCombatRoll, [[DidIJustSayThatOutLoud said I should put it on TV Tropes troper tales]], explained him about the trope, and the worse part? I am supposed to be a CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkey. That's right, I am french! * Show of comments. Who else besides [[Tropers/AdelePotter me]] is supposed to be doing homework right now? * My girlfriend wants me to come to bed and have sex with her right now but I just can't stop browsing this horribly addictive site! And she's an F-cup! * Tvtropes is doing its best to prevent me from finishing my Senior Project and thus graduating high school. * At work last night, a co-worker was complaining to the manager that she didn't have any pockets. Without thinking of how awkward it would be, this troper blurted out (right in front of the manager!) that she should use her VictoriasSecretCompartment (pointing to the appropriate place in case they had no idea what I was talking about). Fortunately for the troper, [[HilarityEnsues hilarity ensued]]. * This troper had time to kill in an IT lesson, having finished their course. They were looking for writing tips. Instead they found this and it's been equal parts [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife]] and [[TVTropesWillEnhanceYourLife]]. I'm not going to go on about it too much, though I will say that my vocab has not gone TOO badly. I did once say "lampshaded" once to the confusion of my friends though. * This didnt happen to this troper but rather a good friend of mine who I introduced to TV Tropes. A month or so later afterwords I got a text in the middle of the night saying TV Tropes has ruined my life! Troper could not help but burst out laughing.' * A lesser example: Thanks to TV Tropes, [[Tropers/{{Hukky}} This troper]] keeps thinking "humanitarian" means [[ImAHumanitarian a human cannibalist]]. * My brother directed me to this site. Now I visit it three times a day and think of trope names whenever a trope happens. I hate you, brother. TVTropes has become my #2 source of information. My #1 is Wikipedia. * Ive read so much Tv Tropes, that no matter what these three kids I know are talking about, i can chime in "oh, that reminds me of somthng

i read on tv tropes. eventually, one says "Oh, you mean that place you live?" i say" "No no no, Wikipedia is where i lve, tv tropes is like a bar, i go there for fun."(note, despite this being posted at 1:20 A.M., that is facebooks fault. T.T. keeps me up till 11 tops. what do you mean i have a problem?) * I actually get overly excited when I watch a movie/read a book/etc I haven't seen before because it means I get to read all the tropes related to that work (as well as add new ones). Similarly, if I'm watching a TV show I have to restrain myself from reading its page before I catch up/finish it so I can avoid spoilers. * ... Dude. [[TraumaInducedAmnesia I don't even remember how the hell I got onto this site!]] I think I was looking up something for RecordOfLodossWar and stumbled onto tvtropes.org (via the YouCantGoHomeAgain page) but ironically the pages I spend the most time editing are for {{Berserk}}, RurouniKenshin, {{Claymore}}, and sometimes WesternAnimation/AdventureTime. This has been going on since January. '''OF LAST YEAR.''' ** Okay. [[BlatantLies I lied on that last part]]. But since January of this year, yeah: [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife TV Tropes has ruined my life.]] It has become my new, more accurate, bible. [[LongBusTrip So long]], Urban Dictionary dot com. * I realised i have troubles enjoy stories because I am Genre Savvy enough to tell a spoiler from a Kilometer away. In Fahrenheit, there is supposedly something in a vent above the protagonist's bed. What could it be, I mean they only live in a society where books are illegal. I just guessed books to easily. When my class had to read Of Mice and Men, I guessed to easily something bad was going to happen and Lennie would have to run back to the bush because George discussed the bush for too long for it too simply slip by. I spot Chevok's gun too easily and ALWAYS see a twist coming thats not a total Deus Ex Machina. ---------------------TVTropesWillRuinYourLife. Embrace your destiny. * NEVER!!! * You have no choice in the matter. * ScrewDestiny, that's what I always say! * I was almost late to school this morning because I slept in. Know why? Because I was having too much fun dreaming about reading nonexistent tropes. * Nonexistent, eh? Well, we can always change that... * NOOOOOOOOOOO! Somebody shoot my friend for telling me about this site! I'm a writer! I'm supposed to be EDITING, not surfing TROPES! On the other hand, it's very fun to read the Troper Tales. :) ----

TVTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary * @/IncarnadineZebra: In a college film-history class last year, I was explaining how, in TheGodfather, if Michael had just shot the corrupt cop, that would be like [[KickTheDog kicking the dog]]--but because the cop punched Michael in the face and tossed in a few racial slurs, which was like [[TheDogShotFirst the dog was shooting first]]...and

then realized that that extension just sounds idiotic unless you're a Troper.... * @/SeanyGenovese: I occasionally reference tropes like Lampshading, SesquipedalianLoquaciousness, AsLongAsItSoundsForeign, WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic, and ClusterFBomb(often in its coarser, uncensored form). I've yet to become a master of tossing around trope names, but I hope to someday. * @/NeoEevee has officially joined the ranks of tropers who use Troperese in real life. One such instance: when we were discussing Pyrrhus in world history class, I said, "So ''that's'' where the term PyrrhicVictory comes from." I later went on to bring up both tropes and TVTropes itself, and considering giving my history teacher the link to the wiki. God only knows how ''that'' would've ended. * This troper sometimes, when mentally narrating her life, slips into TV Tropes style third person. ** The same troper Conversational Troped in a dream. YES A FREAKING DREAM. * @/{{Seraphania}} is having an increasingly hard time not using Narm when talking about bathos in theatre class. I'm slipping. ** Same problem here. In an English essay I accidentally used 'Narm' prompting a large question mark from my teacher. ** When [[@/{{INFJeff}} this troper's]] British Lit professor first explained 'bathos' the first thing I though was: IT'S NARM! *** @/{{Seraphania}} here again - we just had a test on terms, including bathos, and I explained what narm was on the page. My teacher's comment: "Have you ever heard of a website called TVTropes?" HOLY CRAP HE KNOWS. * [[@/{{cgsilverscreen2020}} This Troper]] wrote a paper about TV violence in FamilyGuy. Upon doing so, he used the phrase ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. A trope that in all seriousness sounds pretty self-explanatory. The English professor did not know what it meant. But, to give credit, he knows what DeusExMachina means. ** If an English teacher *doesnt* know what DeusExMachina means he needs to get out of the gene pool. * [[@/{{L3wt}} This Troper]] now speaks a curious blend of norwegian and Tvtropes in casual conversation. I shall name that language[[DramaticPause ...]] Tropewegian! Too bad there's only one speaker. I should petition for government funding in order to preserve my precious language. And by "precious language" I mean "growing videogame collection." ** Then [[{{Kathadrion}} I]] shall name my blend of Swedish and Troperese [[DramaticPause ...]] Tropedish! *** Hey, this troper speaks Tropedish too! :D ** I suppose that a mix of Polish and Tropey would be Tropolish? *** This Troper's Tropolish would be much less awkward if her friends spoke English and she didn't have to first translate the exact meaning of the words to Polish and ''only then'' go into explaining what the hell did she just say. ** And French + Tropish is [[IncrediblyLamePun Trench.]] * In this little boy's English class, he was able to pick out a fellow Troper when he used the term DeadpanSnarker. * As expected of someone who actually created the EvilOverlordList, it

should be expected that @/JackButler constantly refers to tropes in common conversation. Just this morning, he asked if his son was really trying to generate a KickTheDog moment, and noted that his seven year old was too young to attempt a XanatosGambit. * @/{{Mousewolf}} made the mistake of yelling 'HoYay!' at the screen while she and her father were watching Heroes - then made the second mistake of starting her explanation with 'Well, it's a trope...' and wound up spending the next ten minutes explaining exactly what a trope is to her confused parent figure. Luckily, her best friend understands troperese perfectly, especially in the context of fiction. ** This troper made the same mistake except with a different show. * This troper once called his teacher snarky because he (meaning the troper) couldn't for the life of him remember the word sarcasm or its derivatives. ** An update: snarky has complete replaced that other s word in this troper's vocabulary. ** Oh really? I couldn't tell [/snarkasm] *** Somewhat of a subversion since Snarky is hardly a TVtropes-Only word. This troper (a different one than the above) used it long before finding Tvtropes. **** NotASubversion. * Ace of Shadows once referred to her brother as a KavorkaMan. Neither her brother or her mom had any idea what she was talking about. * One day in Afghanistan, when a coworker made a comment and @/{{Hipployta}}'s snappy comeback immediately destroyed, it was remarked how they couldn't understand how I could so into charity work and so liberal (progressive) and be so mean. My response, "I'm a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, a MagnificentBastard, and a DeadpanSnarker so what do you expect?" The entire office stopped and everyone agreed it was the perfect description of me... I have since added it to my wiki page. * @/{{Seanette}} has a hard-to-control closet in her apartment, which has been dubbed the [[DoomyDoomsOfDoom Cavern of Doom]]. Her husband has even begun using this name for it. She also just found herself using the phrase RummageFail to a non-troper co-worker when talking about cleaning out wallets/purses (if he noticed an odd phrase, he didn't react noticeably). On a trip to the library recently, the librarian had some trouble locating her hold materials (he did find them). She told him, "Don't feel bad, I [[FailedASpotCheck fail spot checks]] all the time". He even seemed to understand this remark. ** Probably a DungeonsAndDragons nerd =P ** 'Spot Check' is also business speak for a particular kind of assessment by a supervisor. * This troper's rather LargeHam teacher forced him to describe what tropers were and a number of them after he described the first few chapters of Siddhartha as "A GenreSavvy MarySue goes into the woods with his friend, TheScrappy, and hangs out with hippies." * @/CosmicOsmo reports using the phrase "TruthInTelevision" in ordinary conversation. * @/{{Meems}}, who is a writer, uses trope-speak in conversations with her co-writer about their project. * Other tropers reporting using trope-speak in general conversation

include @/{{Ronfar}}, @/HarpieSiren, @/{{Alkthash}}, @/YeOldeLuke and @/{{stm177}}. * @/UnitOmega, @/{{Meiriona}} and @/InsanityPrelude report thinking in tropes and WikiWords. ** @/{{Pro-Mole}} too, and his brain uses them ''in English''. *** @/LokiFenrisulfIV does so too. *** Because there's no Portuguese version of TVTropes, [[@/{{Aline}} I]] know. ** @/UnitOmega now has another troper they talk regularly with, and they usually skip into sentences with their entire ''structure'' made of Tropes. ** @/AckSed too. ** @/{{Gendoikari1}} as well. ** @/{{Nola}} thinks in partial Troperese. She's used it in her diary. She found TV Tropes what, a month ago? * @/{{Katsuhagi}} confused the hell out of her mother when she recently used the phrase "BunnyEarsLawyer" to describe a mutual friend. She's also now sure that no one will be able to understand the little notes she's been putting in a current project since they mention things like "PetTheDog" and "{{Tsundere}}" on a regular basis. * @/{{Sparkysharps}} has confused the bejesus out of her Literature class many times when she included terms such as TheWesley, AppliedPhlebotinum, DeadpanSnarker and BeyondTheImpossible in class discussion, and has long ago given up trying to explain them. They were, however, very amused to hear about RuleThirtyFour. She's not sure how she should feel about that fact. * Every time @/DaNuke hears something ridiculously unbelievable, he answers with "It's like saying EpilepticTrees exist!". * @/ManCalledTrue has taken to dissecting his own FanFic work and that of others by continuously citing tropes from this wiki. Thankfully, his closest friend is also a reader and can follow along with him. ** The same could be said of @/{{SpiriTsunami}}, who has also at least once used a trope reference out loud and had to explain himself, and once [[strike:tried to use]] used RealityIsUnrealistic as the topic of a research paper (sort of...there was some topical drift by the time it was finished). * This troper has abbreviated {{Everybody is Jesus in Purgatory}} to E.J.P and used it in class, followed by a lengthy explanation of what it means. * This one had to write a paper on the formation of Germany. He spent most of the time spent on it trying to work around the obvious inability to directly refer to the XanatosGambit. * @/{{Daviot}} not only speaks using trope-speak, but corrects his friends when they malaprop a trope, citing examples from the Wiki from memory. * @/{{Red-Hatted Plumber}} has had this happen several times - he knew MarySue, but it's just recently he's begun to use the term DeadpanSnarker for himself and check his original work for tropes on which to [[LampshadeHanging hang a lampshade]]. * @/{{Scooter007}} drives his friend Spencer to distraction by routinely invoking trope names in conversations. Spencer just smiles, perhaps a bit condescendingly, while Scooter007 marvels at the large

void in his friend's life... * @/{{Zephid}} had to describe the XanatosGambit to a bunch of friends after accidentally referring to a villain's plans by that name. He'll often mutter trope names beneath his breath as he notices them, which annoys the crap out of some people. ** @/{{Moogi}} is also guilty of this. He has also begun imagining what entries on this site would look like if his fantasy epic gets published (i.e., there would be a very large series of examples from it on the XanatosGambit page). * @/AK47x2 has had conversations over MSN with somebody he knows while playing them at chess. At the end of one game, he summed it up by providing a link to XanatosRoulette. * @/{{Indigo}} has at least three Tropers as acquaintances or close friends, so ConversationalTroping is not weird for her at all ...so far. * @/{{Lumbargo}} is currently studying Ancient Rome, and can't stop referring to Augustus as a MagnificentBastard. He likewise puts XanatosGambit in formal essays (but his teacher's cool, so she doesn't mind). * @/{{Otempora}} found it very hard to describe SailorNothing to her friends without using the word {{Deconstruction}}. ** At least deconstruction is a real word, and actually means something quite similar. ** Which is why [[@/{{Otempora}} I]] have moved onto words such as {{Narm}} and {{Flanderization}}, which are less explainable. * @/{{Noaqiyeum}} strongly recommends talking in trope titles in English class. If you're going to learn "Stychomythia", you might as well learn "DeadHorseTrope"... * @/AckSed has tried to stop referencing tropes in real life because you have to explain what a trope ''is'' first. * @/{{CAD}} once walked in on his mom ranting about the ending to ''Maximum Ride: Final Warning'', to which he responded "Wow, how {{Anvilicious}}..." Of course, she had no idea what that even meant. * @/LORd frequently bothers his little brother with Troperese, but as he's got a long history on websites with opaque lingo, said younger brother grew used to it years ago. * Luckily, @/LoustarJogger has hooked his best friend on this website, and he knows what I mean when I say XanatosGambit. Sadly, my school's resident MagnificentBastard doesn't know what that means, or that I mean it pseudo-positively. * @/{{Guessmyname}} has had to explain why he laughed when a Series/DoctorWho episode contained a reference to the PlanetOfHats trope. He also tends to use TvTropes lingo in his notes, planning and even the actual scripts of work, along with English language essays, confusing the hell out of anyone he gets to look through it. On a side note, he is also working to convert his English teachers into tropers. * @/IBlameCommunism is constantly referring to historical characters with tropes, although fortunately anyone who knows anything about Otto von Bismarck can make sense of "MagnificentBastard" even if they aren't a troper. * @/{{Meta4}} once described something as "{{anvilicious}}" on a forum. The other guy replied, "Did you just use that like it's an

actual word?" * @/{{Deuxhero}} has an (annoying) tendency to burst into Starting Every Word With Caps, because of TVtropes Wikiword system. * The amount of times @/{{Tinted}} has used the phrases CrapsackWorld, BreakTheCutie and TheWoobie has gone well into the double-digits. * @/IggyEnigma's poor girlfriend has had to listen to him put many of her favorite {{anime}} under {{deconstruction}} due to his perusal of the website. Why she puts up with him is a mystery (though she kind of had it coming, as two of her favorite shows are ''SailorMoon'' and ''GundamWing''.) He has also used {{Anvilicious}} in casual conversation multiple times to different people, and no one has even commented on that. Then again, this probably says something about the weirdness quotient of his [[{{Geek}} friends]]... * @/AcrossTheStars once mentioned {{Retirony}} in AP Literature, was glared at by her teacher, and shut up for the rest of the class. * Premium Irritation has a habit of angrily declaring 'GoddamnedBats!' whenever something annoys him. * Quandtuniverse started using tropespeak with her friends, but fortunately, as it turned out, they also went on Tv Tropes. And those who didn't now do. However, she has to restrain herself not to do it in Creative Writing, and when she has to she dances around the subject. * @/ZanderSchubert once had a history lesson based around the excerpt by a French 19th century writer Frantz {{Fanon}}. Guess what happened next. * @/{{Haven}} occasionally has trouble discussing DonQuixote in class without using troper-speak, or discuss Shakespeare without the phrase "HoYay". And feels the urge to substitute "lampshaded" for "pointed out". ** Heh, choco just used "hanging a lampshade on it" in his blog the other day. It meant "to briefly acknowledge one's awareness of its deficiency". * @/{{iTroper}} keeps forgetting that {{Zeerust}} is not a real word. ** Use "retrofuturism" instead. * Troper @/{{Drascin}} finds it more and more difficult each day to describe any kind of audiovisual media without the employ of phrasing like "KickTheDog moments", "UnReveal twist", or "Anvilicious". This is further aggravated by the fact that ''he doesn't speak English in his normal conversation'', yet feels the urge to use the (very much English) trope phrasing nonetheless. ** @/LokiFenrisulfIV understands your pain... ** So does The Villain. Even more painful for all parties involved are his efforts to translate Tropes (as well as other English phrases) for people who don't speak English. * This troper plans on making troperspeak common slang. SOMEHOW. For now he just uses them regularly and explains the word to whoever has no idea what they mean. Which so far, is everybody. * Racha has introduced her other half to the concept of HoYay, to the extent said girlfriend can't stop identifying it in all their favourite shows. * Not only has @/UberGeek called HoYay on himself after tying a tie on his room-mate, but has also used the ChristianityIsCatholic in his

Philosophy of Religion class. * This Troper, in conjunction with his roommate, has gotten 'Ho Yay' an official term within his entire school. Even people we've never hung out with use it. Said roommate and I frequently employ other tropes in most any conversation, frequently being the only people who know what the other is talking about, leading to long one on one conversations with all of our friends staring at each other. I also make a habit of using ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Tropes, such as describing a friend as a Jerk with a Heart of Gold. * Puck has given an apartment mate the nickname GrumpyBear, which fortunately seems to stand on its own enough that no one has ever asked about it. * Oh @/{{Alkthash}} has run the gamut here. He once remarked that one of his coworkers was a bit of a {{Tsundere}} and had to spend ten minutes explaining the concept to his friends. Which somehow lead to me trying to explain that FanService did not involve actual fans. I have also remarked that some of my friends are coworker [[{{Shipping}} shippers]] as they all seem determined to match every employee up with the ideal match. He has also remarked that the training videos we receive every so often are highly {{Anvilicious}}. * @/VennDiagram and four of her friends like to pretend that they're a FiveManBand (Venn is TheChick), although they had to rehaul it when the supposed SmartGuy ended up acting like TheLancer. This group in general has extremely tropey conversations, including trying to figure out whether [[ClassicalMythology Daphne and Apollo]] count as an OfficialCouple. * @/ThommyH is unable to avoid using the terms [[HangsALampshade lampshade or lampshading]] in every day life. This is compounded by the fact that there is no easy synonymous word or phrase to use to explain what it is, and it's such an incredibly ubiquitous concept once you understand it. * @/DrowLord has yet to find a substitutable word for [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]], speaks casually of [[HeelFaceTurn Face turns]] and [[FaceHeelTurn Heel Turns]] (despite never having watched pro-wrestling), and finds talking about WarpedAesop and ValuesDissonance easy. Lampshade, TruthInTelevision, and WordOfGod are the most commonly used, as has speaking of WildMassGuessing on other forums... * @/GentlemensDame883 had a lurker friend working on a paper studying tropes and related things who struggled to define his selection of tropes without resorting to TV Tropes Vocab. Eventually he found himself defining them nevertheless, but wished for a larger word limit as he could not be sufficiently comprehensive. * This troper works at a [=McDonald's=] and likes to say the [[PhlebotinumBreakdown Phlebotinum has broken down]] whenever a piece of equipment keels over and dies, a semi-regular event. * @/BlackadderTheTroper has used several (Narm a common one) Tropeisms in regular conversation in an effort to confuse others. A lot. * This Troper on a long car trip with friends exclaimed upon the wish to stop at a totally empty rest stop, "Oh Hell no. I'm GenreSavvy." * This Other Troper found himself having to scramble to describe the concept of the Woobie. Luckily, they'd been watching TheDailyShow so

he could use Jon Stewart as an example... * @/{{CapnAndy}} responded to a poorly thought out rant about how Battlestar Galactica fails to show the passage of time with "spare me your EpilepticTrees about [[ImportantHaircut Important Haircuts]]". Either my friend also reads this site or he's just used to me saying weird stuff, because it wasn't challenged. * @/{{triassicranger}} once tried to write the word [[LampshadeHanging lampshading]] in one of his reports. Luckily for him the spellchecker picked up on it. On a related note, he once yelled "stupid dubbers!" when referring to an English translation of a French book. * @/{{VigorBalloon}} once received a script for a play he was going to act in. After reading through it, he found two characters going on about backstory. He could not resist writing in black ink, "[[InfoDump INFODUMP]]" ** That term didn't start with TV Tropes. * @/FreezairForALimitedTime has the annoying habit of [[LampshadeHanging pointing out tropes]] as she plays video games, making her gaming buddies roll their eyes. On the other hand, she's got them all talking about SchmuckBait, InfoDump-ing, and discussing whether the character of Nick from our original writings is an InsufferableGenius or not, and if he isn't, whether or not we've [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] him into one. ** She is now on a mission to make {{Nakama}} an official loanword in English. It's an extremely useful word which English has no direct equivalent for, and it ''pains'' her to know it and yet ''not be able to use it anywhere.'' *** [[@/JBridge I'll]] join you on that. We need that word. *** You have [[@/{{loracarol}} my]] DeviantArt journal and FaceBook page. X3 * @/{{Darktalon}} was responsible for popularising the term {{Shipping}} to refer to real-life speculation about who's dating whom at his previous university, but this was before he discovered TV Tropes. He has also noticed the word "trope" appearing a lot more on the internet lately. ** He also invoked JonasQuinn in reference to the realisation that the girl he had a crush on bore a few too many resemblances to his most recent ex. * Twelve once referred to a character as TheLancer in a story he was writing with his friend, who strangely didn't question it. There may also have been references to XanatosGambit and MagnificentBastard, or there probably will be. * @/{{jketchum31}} cites TV tropes in her literature classes so much that she had to link her very academic Shakespeare professor to the site. He liked it, and brought it up in class. Doesn't make her roommate and friends any less confused when she mentions SealedEvilInACan or shouts BringOutYourGayDead in the middle of the night when reading about [[spoiler:{{Torchwood}}]], though. And she had to clarify when she explained to her boyfriend that she's the MadScientistsBeautifulDaughter. Well, less the beautiful part. * @/{{alliterator}}, in his Advanced Fiction Workshop, tried to explain the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. * @/{{Malimar}} now peppers his dialogue with ludicrous amounts of

trope names, it would seem. However, all his conversations take place on the internet, where he can easily slip in links to the appropriate TVTropes page when he does. * @/GourdCaptain uses tropes a lot when talking about fiction. Everybody else tends to pick up the idea from context, or just assumes it's part of my occasional butchering of English grammar in conversation, especially when sarcastic. (Like, "Make it with the getting gone, and quicker.") * @/RealSlimShadowen has thus far confined using trope names outside of TVTropes to IMs with people who frequent the site -- but still [[=WikiWords=]] them. * @/{{Rissa}} has always known this stuff - as a horror movie addict it's hard not to start noticing things - but has never had nice, compact labels for it before. Thank you, TVTropes. * @/{{Bryce Bryans}} initially gained points from friends and teachers for explaining tropes like {{Pet the Dog}} and {{Race Lift}}, but got to the point where close family has gotten annoyed about tropes becoming such a popular point of discussion. * Ellen Brand has gotten to the point where she discusses the fanfics she writes and those she beta reads almost solely in Trope vocabulary. Also, she's addicted at least three people to this site, and tends to break into an EvilLaugh about it. * @/TheToonGeekette once used the term "DisneyDeath" when referring to an animated special she was watching with a few classmates. Which confused them a bit, because the program in question wasn't done by Disney. She also likes using the work NightmareFuel quite a bit. * @/JethroQWalrustitty has the added problem of living in a country where English isn't the first language, sure, everyone understands it, but it's still bit weird to throw in an English phrase in the middle of a discussion. * @/TheWanderer has made numerous references to TV Tropes on various fora, and occasionally slipped into saying it in real life too, although mostly with people aware of the existence of TV Tropes. ({{Anvilicious}} and MoralDissonance have become favorite terms to use in certain reviews I do as well). The fact that at least one of those people has referred to me as a MagnificentBastard is both tremendously flattering and somewhat odd... * This troper has had to resist the urge to write "this troper" when discussing TV shows online a time or two. * Let's just say that [[ItGetsWorse it could be worse.]] * @/{{Dalantia}} often rereads his stories looking for tropes, and jokes about them to his wench, even when said story is an in-progress thing. He's still in the process of figuring out who is who in the FiveManBand.. * @/SerenYGogledd has found herself using ThisTroper on message boards etc. Also, when discussing ''The 40-year-old Virgin'' with friends, "It would have been so much better without all the {{Cluster F Bomb}}s." Cue explanation of that particular trope... *** This troper was just inadvertently reminded of Kenshiro by THAT troper. Clearly too Welsh-savvy. Also thoughts of Kenshiro immediately led to thoughts of Dio Brando, and the necessity for dropping steamrollers on people.

* [[@/ThirtyTwoFootsteps 32_Footsteps]] not only has used DoomyDoomsOfDoom in casual conversation, he's convinced others that invoking the trope is a guaranteed way to make an impression... [[LampshadeHanging OF DOOM!!!]] * @/{{Skazka}} alarms her father on a regular basis by bringing up {{Anvilicious}}ness, {{Crack Pairing}}s, HoYay and the FiveManBand in situations where they ought never apply. Such as when discussing the Bible. * This [[@/{{e of pi}} troper]] had to explain the concepts of {{Anvilicious}} and {{Some Anvils Need To Be Dropped}} to his girlfriend after seeing and discussing ''{{Wall-E}}''. * @/{{Robbychu}} has an unfortunate tendency to bring up trope in her writing... in addition to talking like everyone around her has the slightest idea of what she means. * @/AlterAlias tends to use tropes a good deal in daily speech however importing words from obscure sources has been a habit for so long before TV Tropes that his friends have gotten used to requesting definitions midway through a sentence. * @/{{Heleentje}} managed to pass her philosophy test by mentioning tropes from this site. The only problem: English is ''not'' her first language. Just try explaining DeadpanSnarker without actually being able to use the word. ** And almost two years later, she's done it again on yet another philosophy test. Hanfeizi = LawfulNeutral! * @/TheKitchenMagician finds himself calling certain things "[[SnarkBait snarkbait]]" and "[[SoBadItsHorrible so bad they're horrible]]" at an alarming frequency. * @/{{Quillpaw}} has used the term DisneyDeath in a discussion about her roleplays. The situation pops up so frequently that nobody questions it any more. She's also convinced her friend to call [[TalesoftheAbyss Jade Curtiss]] a DeadpanSnarker in his character description. * @/{{Starfire}} has most recently had to explain the term DeathByNewberyMedal to friends. She converses regularly about tropes with her friends, and frequently references the site when trying to decide if the characters in her novel are too over the top. (They probably are, but since all the other major characters are and the world doesn't revolve around their absolute wonderfulness she's thinking she's avoided making a bunch of [[MarySue Mary Sues]]... Maybe. Probably. Hopefully. At least her beta readers don't want to kill any of them yet.) * Not only does @/{{FlankMclargehuge}} reference Tropes in daily conversation, he's also introduced the site to the Panel & Pixel comic creator forum, and is watching out people start using the new vocab words... with the side-effect of OTHER PEOPLE distracting HIM with trope links. * @/{{Leone}} once told her father to stop EngagingChevrons, as a memorable example, but has been known to do this on just about every occasions where a trope mention might be remotely feasible. It's a disease. * [[@/PotatoBucket This troper]] and his friend have entire discussions of things in trope-speak, much to the confusion of their

friends. * @/{{Earbox}} has been known to describe himself as a ButtMonkey and TheChewToy... to his psychologist. * @/{{StClair}} is part of several discussion groups (and a local social group) where the Tropes are well-known, and recently exclaimed upon finishing a synopsis of a ''very'' convoluted plot, "ThirtyGambitPileup" before realizing what he had said. * @/{{Bobfrank}} has had to explain the concept of a XanatosGambit various times to various friends, loves to point out how EveryCarIsAPinto and all the {{Mooks}} in movies are either graduates of the ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy or subject to the Law of ConservationOfNinjutsu, and once played a role-playing game about alien abductions from the perspective of a self-described FlatEarthAtheist, always coming up with "rational" explanations for why people were suddenly disappearing, no matter how obvious it became that aliens were behind it. Oh, and he is immensely flattered that a trope he invented ended up used by @/{{StClair}} in RealLife. He also threatens to report coworkers who repeat themselves repetitively to the DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment, and recently made his mother crack up laughing when he dropped the term BreastPlate into a discussion of a movie we had both seen recently. * @/{{Spiky K}} does this on a very regular basis. Try explaining it when you start referring to somebody as Raping the Dog to your high school peers. Seriously, just try it. * The Affable Paranoiac (a.k.a. Joebob) sometimes refers to himself as ThisTroper in his head, it kind of creeps him out. ** [[@/{{INUH}} This Troper]] does that as well, and yes, it is extremely disturbing. He once had to stop himself from using the term in an English paper. * After @/{{Zelnor}} quoted Tropes in class his Scottish teacher proceeded to happily question him about it, them denounce tropes as time-wasting and practically useless outside of studying literature and generally curbstomping him. His parents did the same. Isn't it sad, TV Tropes ? ;~; ** Does this teacher have ViolentGlaswegian tendencies? ;-) *** My mistake - I keep forgetting he's not actually Scottish, he's British. He still has the sort of personality, leading [[Me @/{{Zelnor}}]] to say "My name is [Teacher's name] and this school is roughly a third the size of my ego. WE love / hate each other. *** Scotland is part of Great Britain. It's perfectly possibly to be both Scottish and British. * This Troper is trying to direct all his friends and teachers to TVtropes, so they'll understand why I keep bringing this site up in regards to everything from the comedy we're performing to Shakespeare. * [[@/{{Griff}} This troper]] was GenreSavvy before he even knew that was a phrase, but could pass it off in conversations as a side-effect of taking a Film Studies class in high school. Now? After 3 months of TVTropes exposure? I'm a [[BlessedWithSuck cursed man]], damn you all very much. I can't count the number of times I've had to think of a different way to finish a sentence, just because I couldn't finish it with an oh-so-apt WikiWord. And it isn't like I can introduce ''coworkers'' to the site. Some of them might not get addicted quickly

enough to not tattle... * This troper called her best friend a {{Cloudcuckoolander}}, meant in fun, and got a weird look in return... * Let's just say @/{{Xiphon iii}}'s friends recieved a crash course in tvtropes. Also called, I sent them links to a random page, and now they understand me perfectly. Every evil villain should use this place as a prison. I didn't see those folks for a week. My roleplaying forum also now knows not to click on any explanatory links in my bios, such speed chess, magnificent bastard, or even scrappy. After all, they won't make it back to the roleplay. For MONTHS. * @/{{DarkInsanity13}}'s vocabulary was already ruined by anime and anime forums, but is now twice as ruined upon coming across TVTropes. Now references the site and many aspects of it to her brother and parents. They're used to it and pretty much ignore it. * This troper tried to use the concept of {{Unobtainium}} while talking to his father. He didn't get it. Incredibly ironic, as we were watching [[TropeNamer ''The Core'']] at the time! * [[@/{{Nomic}} This troper]] uses trope names when describing games or movies, and ocasionally real life things too. Luckily his friends tend to read this site too, or are at least aware of the common terms (such as the often used amime-related terms). His brother however is not, much to his annoyance as he has to explain what terms like tsundere and bishonen mean over and over again. * @/SeanTucker is nearly incomprehensible to anyone who is not a troper. * [[@/{{Gecko}} Gecko's]] little sister is afraid of clowns, so explaining the UncannyValley to her wasn't that hard. Discussing ObfuscatingStupidity and whether or not it applies to our dog with my mom was a little more complicated. * Trisar was chatting with his DM (a fellow troper) about an event occurring in our second edition D&D game involving a half-angel character awakening new powers by sex (don't ask). Said DM told me that the event was just for fun and not intentional. She then proceeded to make a typo saying it wasn't a DeusSexMachina. Trisar proceeded to laugh himself to death over the obvious subconscious trope naming. * This troper capitalizes tropes she uses in everyday chat rooms, such as, when describing Twilight, "Stephenie Meyer's Vampires Are Different." And she also really wants to link to "Take That" with any witty remark she makes. * The door to this troper's wreck room reads DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment in big letters. ** That's just awesome. * This troper has found that he tends to think of any situation that doesn't go the way he expects it to as "[[SubvertedTrope subverted]]", and anything that has a not-immediately-obvious reason for being the way it is as being "[[JustifiedTrope justified]]". * Although [[@/{{TheNerdyNinja}} This Troper]] already knew terms like MarySue and DeusExMachina because he likes to write, now that he visits TV Tropes he often uses terms like EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory, LampshadeHanging, and Narm... causing him to have to explain what TV Tropes is...leading him to have to explain what Tropes are... Also, he

can not take the phrases {{Shipping}} and Handling or Free Shipping seriously anymore. * @/MissHap doesn't have a problem with speaking in tropes as such, but too much time reading and writing on this wiki has taught her to think in [[PotHole Pot Holes]], which is affecting her writing. (The closest thing to a pothole off the Internet is a footnote, and footnotes are currently out of style in legal writing). * [[@/YoAdrian This troper]] recently used trope language in an outline for an English paper. Peer critiquers were completely confused... teacher got the jokes. Also, reviewing/betaing my best friend's novel in progress is a lot easier when I can refer to the WhiteHairedPrettyBoy and the SquishyWizard instead of having to say "You know, your evil emperor and the girl with the wing-shaped scars on her back". * @/{{Ribbons}} has dedicated herself to learning as many tropes as possible, so that one day her sentences will be indecipherable to all but a select few, allowing her to feel like she is a cut above all others, and furthering her superiority complex. Her thought process and note-taking methods are already there. * Western Mercenary Union said while his brother played {{Half Life}} 2 {{Die Chair Die}} and then had to check it out the next day on TVTropes and then explain it to him. * @/{{Theogrin}} quite competently fell out of his seat during episode 3.2 of {{Series/Heroes}}, practically shouting "{{Jossed}}!" He then had to explain this, and why he felt the BavarianFireDrill later on in the season was so perfect. He's given up counting all these... * @/{{Phartman}} never does this and he thinks you're all weirdos. Uh, he also likes HypocriticalHumor. * While having an internet argument with an ultra-reactionary, bookburning (literally) Catholic, @/{{Saboteuse}} explained her amusement at her adversary's completely unironic usage of the terms "feminazi" and "sheeple" by calling them "discredited tropes." The man promptly fired back that "clich" would be a better choice of word and that "trope" is a word that only a "true liberal sophist" would use. * Jayngfet says this so much he's become incomprehensible to every non troper at times. * [[@/PG556 This troper]] was invited to come out with his grandmother to pick out Xmas presents (due to her not being here in December) I declined (aside: its really hard to write in third-person when referring to others) which prompted my sister to say they can handle it for me - "Probably something nice and pink." [[RealMenWearPink My response was quite obvious...]] * @/AirHadoken frequently links to TVTropes in IM windows in order to * not* have to explain what is meant by the trope he's naming. He has a tendency to throw obscure references (TVTropes and otherwise) into every conversation, though, so this tends to be quite helpful. * Since discovering TvTropes, Emma loves to shout [[MadeofExplodium 'Explodium!']] when anything in a movie or show detonates. * This troper makes a practice of referring to his two (female) dogs, [[FinalFantasyX Yuna]] and [[EmbarrassingMiddleName Darby]], as [[ThoseTwoGuys "the guys"]]. * Prior to discovering TVTropes, @/{{Ialdabaoth}} knew the word

"trope" only in the sense of "cantillation," or a system for chanting sacred texts. * @/{{Oolie}} managed to locate another troper amongst her circle of friends by noticing him use several wikiwords in conversation. Incidentally, he focuses mainly in the videogames tropes, while she in literary, so there are a few they miss. They noticed that one of their other friends had started reading TVTropes after she started scattering her conversation with them. * @/CleverPun takes a lot of Creative Writing classes, and cannot help but use the many wacky trope names he knows to describe things. His classmates didn't really call him on it until he used the term GenreBlind to describe the villain in a story he was writing. Another villain in the same story uses the term PlotCoupon. He has also managed to get some of his other friends addicted to the site by mentioning tropes in conversation once too often. * Godeskian is an energetic Amdram enthusiast, both performing and watching, and is becoming well known for describing the characters and plots in Trope terms, for example in our recent murder mystery we had the designated antagonist who was dating the hotblooded Veronica, while the unlucky everydude pined after the Betty who eventually returned his affections. My fellow Amdrammers don't always know what to make of me. * @/{{Zilo}} has caught herself using terms like RedShirt and HeelFaceTurn in real life while watching TV with her family. Her mother now knows what a RedShirt is without ever having looked it up. * Despite often decrying the overuse of the word on this site, @/{{SpiriTsunami}} has found himself using "{{squick}}" as though it were an actual verb. * Though suffering form not being a native English speaker, [[@/{{Aque}} This Tropress]] often uses tropes' names in conversations. Good thing her friends know English quite well and that, duh, some tropes are SelfExplanatory or ExactlyWhatItsaysOnTheTin. Yet that habit caused her best friend to get to know some of the tropes, as she constantly uses them to describe her {{RPG}} characters and situations. She even gave him a list of tropes applicable to her character, so he could better get to know the character. * @/{{AnimeDutchess}} frequently uses this excuse not to read [[Literature/{{Twilight}} things about sparkly vampires]]: "I have a very strong {{Willing Suspention Of Disbelief}}, and all the warnings from friends and reviews in the world can't stop me from liking something then." Also, she's used {{Nakama}} in a Sociology essay when writing about {{The Breakfast Club}}. * @/HarpieSiren had a rather... mortifying experience after the name of a trope slipped out while talking with her mother about Azula's fate. Oh, it would have been fine if the trope wasn't called "WordOfGod"! Cue my mother getting freaked out, while I went into recon mode, I tried to explain why I had said that, what I actually meant by it.... Face meet your new best friend palm. * @/{{Lemurian}} had been using MadeOfWin for a long time before he found out about TVTropes. After finding out about this site, he's just been using it even more. Oh, and he laughed out loud when he saw a

hyperlinked WordOfGod on TheOtherWiki. The link was to the article about TheBible, but still... * @/{{Rhiow}} frequently will use a fairly common trope in a conversation with his geeky friends/family, who do not visit this page. Often they can grasp what he means, but often it needs to be explained. He tries his very best not to mention these tropes but they just seem slip out occasionally. Curse you Poseidon! * [[@/{{Pinkbaron}} This troper]] explained {{Watchmen}} to her mother as a {{Deconstruction}} of {{Superhero}} tropes, thus [[LogicBomb breaking her]] [[YourHeadAsplode mother's brain.]] * Solitair, a troper and handler on SurvivalOfTheFittest, reports that the senior members of the board now despise TV Tropes for this (and those people who think that slapping together a few tropes is enough to make a good character). ** As another member of that particular board, @/PremiumIrritation would like to clarify that ''most'' members don't literally hate TV Tropes, though they do tend to find Tropespeak annoying. * @/{{Ctrlbuild}} has sometimes driven his sister to quiet distraction by citing tropes during episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation. * @/{{Hunter4242}} has decided that from now on, his Tabletop RPG characters will all be based on a handful of tropes. And wants to make [[DungeonsAndDragons D&D]] feats out of tropes as well. ** Why stop with feats - @/{{Peripatetic Penguin}} would gladly collaborate on creating an entire system of tropes. * This troper (long-time lurker only-very-recent editor) has long had a standing rule with her older brother that the only acceptable topics for conversation are video games, internet memes, sometimes movies/tv shows, and seldomly books. Since she introduced said brother to TV Tropes last summer, conversations are now, essentially, TV Tropes offline -- and of course the Wiki Words just confuse our parents to no end. * @/{{Caphi}} crossed some sort of event horizon by using trope names, particularly ThatOneBoss, in a FAQ he was writing for ''TalesOfHearts''. It's a minor act of something that the FAQ is as trope-light as it is. * [[@/{{Ronnie}} This troper]] has used various tropes in the conversations of a secret agency of conspiracy theorists from an RP he's in and a screenplay he's writing. For example, a lower agent reports to the big boss, "He's a shifty guy though, I think he may have a XanatosGambit. Perhaps even a [[XanatosRoulette roulette.]]" * [[@/AnthonyMercer This troper]] has this disease, and I think my brother's catching it off me - this morning, he was playing ''[=MySims=] Kingdom'' and said "LampshadeHanging!" ** Argh! The question on my chemistry test "Describe the meaning of the term TheMole." should not remind me of this site! * This troper has started using ''LesYay'' to describe the only thing he actually understood about Twelfth Night. His friends are confused as hell. * This Tropette uses lampshaded, Ho yay (that went over well in my Catholic elementary school), Modesty Beesheet, Big Damn Heroes, Big No, described herself as a Crouching Moron Hidden Badass and a Genius Ditz, called a friend a Minion with an F in Evil, and actually

complemented a teacher on a Xanatos Gambit, among others. Fortunately, she has been able to write off her odd lingo by saying, "Oh, it's a really obscure reference." * This Troper has attempted to explain the nuttier conspiracy theories a number of times with the phrase "The government lampshaded a red herring to cover up the truth." * This troper uses tropes to describe everything, and forgets that other people have no clue what she's talking about. The most commonly used are Ho Yay, Victoria's Secret Compartment, Well Intentioned Extremist, and Blessed With Suck. But it doesn't end there. Thanks so much TV Tropes and Idioms! * Since discovering this website, This troper, her little sister, and her older sister have not been able to ''stop'' conversing in trope names. We understand each other perfectly, but everyone else is confused. (This troper also recently described something in the form of a ''nonexistent'' trope name by combining two existing ones "Crowning moment of completely missing the point" - and both sisters understood her perfectly.) ** That should be a trope. * It is now a BerserkButton for this troper when people misuse the word "trope". I had an English teacher who consistently said "trope" when he really meant "motif"... ARGH! ** And this troper would like to point out to you that your teacher was correct. Trope and motif are synonymous and both refer to "recurring literary themes". Sorry about that, buddy. * @/{{Zordauch}}: While watching AmericanIdol Hollywood Week, one of the hopefuls was gesturing broadly and contorting his face. My motherin-law was quite amused when I said "Did somebody order a LargeHam?" * @/{{Pichu-kun}} often states trope names in casual forum, and Yahoo Answers talk... She also is starting to say it in real life, when ''talking''. * @/{{SilverGryphon}} recently found herself in a conversation with a fellow text-based RPer concerning a biological factoid. SG is a bit notorious for being the group's biology geek, and promptly won the argument with the declaration "You RP with me, I'm not gonna let {{you FailBiologyForever}}." * @/{{Lale}} has consistently thought of the Redcross Knight's state after meeting Despair in ''TheFaerieQueene'' as his HeroicBSOD, and not only did it almost slip out in a meeting with my professor today, but I couldn't think of how else to describe it! * I usually use concepts and words such as "{{Narm}}", "{{Nightmare Fuel}}", "{{Ho Yay}}", "{{Large Ham}}" and so on... In Spanish (Yeah, it gets even harder: English is a very flexible language with new terminology, but Spanish, not so much...). I only talk about tropes with my family anyway, specially with my brother (who speaks Tropespeak very fluenty) and my mother (the fact that she is a selfproclaimed nerd helps a lot in this situation), damn, I feel incredibly proud how she understands and uses Tropespeak ("{{Jumping the shark}}", "{{Growing the beard}}", "{{Put On a Bus}}" among others) * This troper just spent about 20 minutes in an English class watching the old MacBeth film, proclaiming how the guy in the helmet would be

the first {{mook}} to die... * Someone insert the trope name here, I've forgotten it* He did. People later asked me if I had seen the movie before.... {{NoJustNo}}. * @/{{Pinata}} has worked the phrase SesquipedalianLoquaciousness into sentences ''twice'', and has also used NightmareFuelUnleaded, LargeHam, CompleteMonster, BerserkButton and LaserGuidedAmnesia in daily conversation. In his writing projects he has also [[{{LampshadeHanging}} lampshaded]] (complete with trope names) UnnecessaryCombatRoll, CrowningMomentOfAwesome, VictoriasSecretCompartment and probably others, and has a character named {{Squick}} who actually literally rapes a dog. * [[@/JET73L This Troper]] already used trope names from unrelated sources - RedShirt (not in relation to StarTrek), ChekhovsGun, {{Anvilicious}}, and even TheUnreveal (though without the "the"). Now he thinks in trope titles to such a degree that it's easier and less confusing to use [[PotHole makeshift]] WikiWords at his home forum than write around them (with at least one friend getting closer to ''accidentally'' being dragged into tropership), and almost constantly thinks in [[ThisTroper the nameless third person]]. * @/{{alfinchkid}} has gotten in trouble for using terms like LampshadeHanging and [[SubvertedTrope Subversions]] and similar common troping terms in evaluations of media in English class. * This troper repeatedly refers to TvTropes ''in her English essays''. This wouldn't be so bad but for the fact that she has a reputation for being a complete ignoramus on modern pop culture and for the fact that her English teacher won't touch a computer. * [[@/AXavierB This troper]], upon having his little brother suggest they pretend to be "Mommy" and "Daddy", said "I have a better idea; how about I be the AloofBigBrother and you be the CuteShotaroBoy?" * When this troper started ''thinking'' of one of his novel-inprogress characters as a {{Nightmare Fuel Station Attendant}} with {{Heroic Sociopath}} tendancies who quickly evolved into the {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}, he knew it was already too late. * @/{{Edge-of-Oblivion}} has only known of the site for about a month and it has already infected his entire vocabulary. Luckily, the {{RealLife}} people he uses the terms around are fairly quick to pick up on new terminology, and online acquaintances pretty much all know of {{TVTropes}} or are not averse to following a link. * I, the @/{{Omega Metroid}}, am currently working on littering my vocabulary with tropes. I'm not as good at it as the rest of you yet, though. * @/{{Sus}} catches himself saying things like "Ah, that's a ''<trope>'' right there!", "So, it's basically a ''<trope>''?" or "Because of ''<trope>''." at an alarmingly increasing frequency. * @/{{Alsadius}} once caused some serious annoyance in a debate with some creationists by referring to their belief structure as "AWizardDidIt". A link to the trope page sorted it out, though. ** Is it bad that this creationist still found that hilarious? * @/{{Bookhobbit}} is continualy referencing tropes in front of her not-interested sister. It has warrented many, many explanations, and usually an odd look from her sister along with the phrase, "You're '''weird''', sissy."

* This troper finds the people around her continually confused as to why she's using and/or capitalizing words like BigBad and XanatosGambit; her boyfriend, luckily enough, is the one who introduced her to the website so we engage in trope-centric conversations often and with no problems. * This troper just used "NiceJobBreakingItHero" as the title of an essay on the Cold War and the genocide in Cambodia. ** I nominate this for {{Made of Win}}. *** Second. *** You made me laugh for the first time today. **** And I want to read the essay. * @/YoAdrian has caught herself using [[LampshadeHanging "lampshading"]], [[XanatosGambit "Xanatos gambit"]] and [[NightmareFuel "nightmare fuel"]] in an [[SeriousBusiness English paper worth a quarter of the semester grade]]. She also takes notes in trope at times - it's easier to write "Character A [[KickTheDog kicks the dog]] -> KarmaHoudini" than to explain in "normal-person speak" how the plot works. * This troper used the phrases {{Woobie}} and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief in RealLife. When called out on it, TV Tropes did indeed mess up her vocabulary: "Well, you know, the internet will mess with your speeching." * @/{{Arca}} regularly refers to tropes (intentionally mind you) and tends to link to them whenever possible. Frequently refers to "Disbelief Suspenders" (what you need when you can't maintain WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief), and commonly tacks "[[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And Zoidberg]]!" onto the end of lists out of nowhere in IRC channels. Even when "[[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And Zoidberg]]!" is a completely inappropriate addition to the list. * @/LuckyRevenant has been known to repeatedly bring up TvTropes in conversation. Mostly because he has to explain the words he's using frequently. Whether this should be stopped or not is debatable. Although he has cited it in English class, he has yet to refer to it in a paper, which is probably a good thing. * @/{{Bane}} Uses these tropes. Every. Day. In regular conversation and otherwise. They're in her games and fanfics, and now her brother knows what a deadpan snarker is (and he's 5). * @/{{LordCuthberton}} uses tropes when discussing literature or poetry in English lessons.His teacher is often bemused by the comparison of Simon Armitages 'Hitcher' and the {{MoralEventHorizon}} found in the poem. * @/TsundereLightning does not use "LevelUpAtIntimacy5" to describe relationships - but his friends, on the other hand... * This troper has several times tricked people into, among other things, rushing headlong into certain death situations in video game matches (the only way I can win, since I am not particularly good at straight up skill), and when someone finally asked how I can do it, I said "a MagnificentBastard never reveals his tricks". Cue explanation. * @/SalFishFin has had to explain tropes all the time, mostly when he yells something like "HoYay!". * This Troper, who has yet to register, has held a three-minute long conversation over MSN with @/{{Diddgery}} and [[@/FusionDragon

Fusion]] that consisted solely of Trope names. He also has to frequently explain himself to friends when he giggles "Xanatos Gambit" under his breath. * [[@/CheshireGrinne This Troper]] has just recently started accidentally using trope names in everyday conversation. Luckily it's only the ones that are [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin]] so no one really notices that she uses them, but she dreads the day some more...obscure ones show up in conversation. Which is why she's starting to introduce her friends to TV Tropes. * This troper and her sister make a point of using trope names when talking about TV shows, so that our overprotective mother can't understand us. Not that the shows we watch are inappropriate (Danny Phantom, Yu-Gi-Oh, Xiaolin Showdown, etc.) but our mom has a habit of finding random, innocent material objectionable, so imagine what she would think of characters like Bakura, who are mentioned on the Nightmare Fuel example pages. TV trope names really help. * This troper, who had already developed the ability to count down to climactic moments ''before'' she started reading TV Tropes, is very glad she has an understanding English teacher - who allowed her to write an essay on the use of TV Tropes as a recent assessment piece. She got full marks for that piece, too. She feels she is getting closer to turning the teacher into a troper. * This troper utilised the phrase "CrowningMomentOfAwesome" to describe a particular novel's hero's philosophical descent into despair and the resulting ScrewYou to the gods of his suicide. The teacher didn't notice, but her GenreSavvy classmates were much amused. * Queen of Dorkness has her little sister using NightmareFuel. She has her ''other'' little sister using WordOfGod, {{Anvilicious}}, MarySue, CrackFic, CrackPairing, HoYay, and probably some others that Queen of Dorkness just doesn't notice because they are so ingrained into her mind. In fact, she once wrote a paper for English class in which she asked "Is [[Literature/{{Twilight}} Bella]] a MarySue because the world revolves around her, or does the world revolve around Bella because she is a MarySue?" Her teacher didn't seem to notice. * This troper discusses tropes constantly with her best friend, a fellow troper. Another friend has completely outlawed the discussion of tropes in her house. * @/{{Rakuen}} has ran a panel at anime conventions that centers entirely on death related tropes. It was accepted rather well. He also mentions tropes in conversation, usually ones that make semantic sense in English. * @/HouraiRabbit encountered some character outlines (for [=RPG=] characters) that use tropes in lieu of actually describing a character's personalities and has had to correct this on several occasions. He is not opposed to it in principle, but the words ColdSniper do not encapsulate personality, motivations and backstory. [[WordSaladLyrics Trope Salad Backgrounds]] also make him a little sad but he's not a KnightTemplar about it. * @/NickUzifang knows this trope by the name "TV Tropes will make you a big flippin' nerd." * This troper unconsciously used trope names for his AP English essays and somehow came out with an A.

* @/AddyThePawnSlayer will these days talk almost exclusively in Trope when drunk. Squick is the normal word for, well, Squick, in any context whatsoever, and almost any discussion of any form of media includes trope talk. He also finds himself often wishing he could use Pot Holes when ''speaking'', believing it would make his life so very much easier... * This troper burst out laughing when he finally watched Firefly and Zoe said "BigDamnHeroes, sir." And then had to explain to the people he was watching with just why that line had elicited such a response. * @/{{KJMackley}}: I've managed to turn this into "faking" a certain degree of wit. Instead of spending time to describe the meaning of my word choice, I use trope names that are more or less understandable and everyone thinks I am so quick witted. For example: -->(in a {{Shakespeare}} class talking about Twelfth Night) "There's like a... LoveDodecahedron going on!" -->(talking to a friend about her boyfriend) "You're just enthralled by his rugged PermaStubble." * In regards to "trope" being a "not-so-common" word, @/{{SpiriTsunami}} has taken to noting when the word ''is'' used in the mainstream, and was surprised to find one magazine [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=91a3mg8m8cu4op2axxno thqm&page=1#1 use it two weeks in a row.]] * @/{{Excel-2009}}. I'm studying film and use trope names as if they were accepted jargon in the film industry. No one has yet called me on it. * @/{{starshine}} has actually used the phrase [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration Darmok and Jilad at Tenagra]] to describe her trope-and-reference-laden method of speech, mostly because she, like the Tamarians, is somewhat incomprehensible to people who haven't seen all the TV shows and movies she has. (example from a recent conversation: "I'm going all Jennifer Hudson in ''{{Dreamgirls}}'' on him" "Well, if that doesn't work you can switch to Carrie Underwood") She understands that this is detrimental to her social being, if only because it is very difficult to have a conversation when you have to explain a lot of what you were just saying. (This entry was very difficult to write.) * @/AllanAokage has this problem. One particulaur example would be; "One moment, I'm going to Kick The Dog by peeing on the ants in the bushes at the bottom of the field", when used as an excuse to look for a ball my cousin had dropped. It took longer to explain the meaning of the words then it did to find the damn ball in the first place. * This Troper and his friend found themselves needing to invent new words to shorten or videogame/tv/movie conversations. They didn't discover TVTropes until 2 years later, and were surprised to find that others had come up with terms like {{Anvilicious}}, {{Kick The Dog}}, {{Designated Hero}}, and the {{Unreveal}}. Still, now that we know of it, our conversations have gotten even more confusing to outsiders. * [[AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]], particularly on ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, has had terms like FaceHeelTurn and CrowningMomentOfAwesome creep into his videos as of late. ** TheNostalgiaChick also does this, having devoted an entire video to TheSmurfettePrinciple and the DistaffCounterpart trope.

* ThisTroper (I've never [[GetKnown gotten known]], but I read and post here all the time) finds the phrase TrashOfTheTitans to be quite useful. Basically, my housekeeping habits are significantly messier than what's considered normal, but not nearly as bad as TrashOfTheTitans. I also had a roommate once whose habits really were bad enough to fall under TrashOfTheTitans. So when I'm explaining my own habits, or contrasting myself with my former roommate, I always explain that I'm pretty messy. But not ridiculously messy, not total TrashOfTheTitans. * [[@/{{Lanky}} This Troper]] has noticed it starting to creep into his reviews of other's work on fanfiction.net. * This troper now use the term BigBad to describe the antagonist of a tv series/videogame/comic/whatever. Also, the term OneWingedAngel was added to his vocubulary to describe that certain habit of villains to turn into big, ugly monsters. This is useful when having a debate about JRPG, since...well, it needed a name! * @/{{Aerodactylus}} has been using tropespeak in conversation for a while now, but it was only this past summer (when he finally got a chance to hang out with an equally avid troper) that he was able to use tropespeak and not only not get weird looks, but have ''understand what he was saying.'' It was liberating! * @/SpamWarrior3000 used the term AuthorExistenceFailure to describe Robert Jordan, and [=RPs=] Nero at sixwordstories--his handle is OmnicidalManiac. She also called Sylar's acquisition of powers MegaManning, which cracked her husband up and has [[YouFailBiologyForever accused him of failing biology]]. * Mystery Otaku was watching the Batman movies out of nostalgia. When it came to the end of {{Batman Returns}}...she explained to Ano Sa "Catwoman shot herself with {{Chekhovs Gun}}". Yes, she is well aware of being a resident PungeonMaster and Ano Sa was kind enough to merely laugh and not boo her away. * [[@/{{Gendoikari1}} This troper]] manages to include tropes in his English notes (like, say "-Maria was StalkerWithACrush for Joe, even though he's married" or "- Execution of the king and queen was MoralEventHorizon for French revolutionaries"). * [[@/{{av12971}} This troper]] used several terms in an essay for AP English, with the one raising the most eyebrows being {{Rape the Dog}} (the essay was written before it was replaced by {{Moral Event Horizon}}). * [[@/{{SotiCoto}} This C-C-C-Combo Breaker]] would be the first to admit to being somewhat of a {{Cloudcuckoolander}}, not least because he has used the phrase: "I'll Xanatos your Batman" in a fairly normal (if rather competitive) conversation while making zero attempt to explain it. Even other associates who admit to being Tropers themselves have difficulty catching the cut-down references sometimes. * This Troper was familiar with terms like RedShirt or MarySue before this. Her parents usually ignore references to it (except for when her mother got angry with her for using the term "shipping" and insisted she use a "real" word). This troper's brother is familiar with any trope associated with ThatGuyWithTheGlasses (like BigLippedAlligatorMoment) and was dragged on to look at the WhatAnIdiot page. He then asked to see the Giant Crab page and from

there examined YouFailedHistoryForever. When he heard this Troper explain the concept of DroppedABridgeOnHim, he caught on rather quickly and said "You mean like Cyclops in X3". * An excerpt from an online conversation [[@/BackseatModder this troper]] had about writing: "But you could cite WordOfGod and declare it {{Justified}} because TrueArtIsIncomprehensible. ([[TVTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary TV Tropes Ruined My Vocabulary]]...)" She then went on to explain to another acquaintance why she preferred [[PortmanteauCoupleName Portmanteau Couple Names]] over IdiosyncraticShipNaming. All in title case. * This troper wrote an essay on ''KingLear'' which was peppered with references to the ValuesDissonance trope. Not a fatal flaw by any means, but weird to be using it in such a context. * [[@/{{MiraShio}} This troper]] has developed a habit of pointing at an example of any trope and claiming it as such (e.g. * points dramatically at childhood artifact on the television* ChekhovsGun!). I've also started referring to tropes in daily conversation and schoolwork. Then again, I've already known a few tropes and started becoming GenreSavvy before discovering this site. * @/{{Wolfryuzaki}} has recently taken up the habit of referring to multiple people as either a {{Jerkass}} or {{Magnificent bastard}} which luckily no one has questioned yet as well as a brief utterance of ChekhovsGun during a episode of Danny Phantom. * [[@/ToddTheT1000 This troper]] has become some sort of TVTropes priest. In addition to [[ConversationalTroping always referencing them in real life]] (do I get bonus points for the fact nobody seems to think it's weird or out of place despite them NOT BEING TROPERS, or even having HEARD OF this site?), I tend to link them at every possible opportunity on forums, complete with title case and everything - sure, it takes me ten times longer to write a post now but the 'Damnit! [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife You're taking hours of my day up here!]] is way too satisfying. Alternately, I'll link them on MSN an effort to get more tropers in my friends list... * [[@/LeighSabio This Troperess]] confused her mom by stating that if my life were a TV show, my best friend and I would be "right behind Kirk/Spock for the most slashed couple on television." This led to a long conversation in which I had to explain the concepts of HoYay and {{Shipping}} for the 1000th time. Mom finally got fed up when I responded to a question about my relationship wit said friend with "{{Canon}}ically or in {{fanon}}?" * This poor troper was typing along on her seemingly unending essay on smoking bans and suddenly found herself discussing the way HannaBarberra 'retconned' older cartoons to eliminate examples of tobacco use. She found herself having to pause several minutes to try and figure out how a non-troper would say it. This troper has also introduced her mother to this site and her English class to the concept of 'The Chewbacca Defense' * @/{{Phencer42}} was once at a party with a bunch of friends and {{Eneljie}}. We watched GranTorino and at the end of the movie when [[spoiler:Walt Kowalski dies]] {{Eneljie}} points out, "That was totally {{What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic}}!" I [[FacePalm face palmed]]. I knew I was the only one there not confused.

* [[@/TemporaryLife This troper]] has spent enough time stalking the streets of TVTropes that he has, on more than one occasion, used the phrase "I don't mean to sound like a BrattyHalfPint, but...," and once relayed a story about my supervisor to my wife, saying that he pissed someone off enough to get ReassignedToAntarctica. Not to mention referring to M* A* S* H as {{Anvilicious}} more than once. Such referencing has lead to my wife telling me that "TVTropes has made you a pretentious asswipe." Yeesh. It's why I have to force myself to take breaks every so often. * This troper has a habbit of shouting, "God damned {{Squishy Wizard}}! whenever one of her mages dies while playing a videogame. Also, she and an acquaintance spoke for several hours conversing entirely in trope names. * I described Eragon to my English class as "A {{Boring Invicible Hero}} {{Jerkass}} that deosn't get nearly as {{What The Hell Hero}} moments as he should and honestly SHOULD be described as a {{Byronic Hero}} if he wasn't such a damn {{Mary Sue}}." The rest of English class was spent on me explaining all the terms, the word "trope", an Xanatos Gambit, the Evil Overlord List, Genre Savvy... I spent an hour describing THIS SITE. I got a 124% with the note of "Way to expand our knowledge of the literary building blocks." I crossed it out and wrote tropes. * I once heard a guy in one of my classes use the term HighOctaneNightmareFuel which amused me. I've mainly used the video game tropes like ScrappyLevel, ThatOneBoss, DemonicSpiders, and of course GoddamnedBats. And I've gotten into an extensive conversation with a friend of hers about GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff and AmericansHateTingle. * @/{{Animenutcase}} has gotten away with using DiabolusExMachina and LampshadeHanging in English class. The fact that my teacher just nodded makes me wonder... * @/{{thexspacexmambo}} tried to annotate her entire copy of ''JaneEyre'' for English class using only tropes. Strangely enough, her English teacher did not appreciate the term SceneryPorn in the sophomore's Victorian Literature. Also unappreciated was the mention of LesYay when [[LesYay Jane was in bed with Helen]] and HighOctaneNightmareFuel when [[MadwomanInTheAttic Bertha was discovered]]. * This troper and her younger brother are both tropers, and although we mainly hang out in different sections of the site (I'm all ''StarTrek'', all the time, and when I'm not it's SciFi or HighFantasy, and he prefers {{Anime}} and WorldOfWarcraft}}), we have many conversations in Tropese, which results in massively confused parents. It's to the point that we will DoubleFacepalm and recite the caption from the FauxtivationalPoster - simultaneously - whenever our dad tells a particularly awful joke. * @/{{Kosherbacon}}'s girlfriend is a linguistics major, so she's a stickler for etymology and stuff. Usually I can get away with saying things like CrowningMomentOfAwesome, HighOctaneNightmareFuel, and BaitAndSwitchLesbians, but she visibly {{squick}}s whenever I say, well... {{squick}}. * @/{{Metalbane}} was taken aback when someone complimented his

{{Badass Longcoat}} * @/{{Wanderingmagus}} introduced his english teacher to this site. She was on for hours. * This troper is an editor for the Vocaloidism fan-blog. Ever since she became an editor, the blog has no mercy from the terms "BrainBleach", "YourMileageMayVary", etc. * @/{{Absynthe}} has offered friends BrainBleach. ** As has @/{{TortTaura}}. Then faced with the task of explaining what {{BrainBleach}} is, and why they might just need it. xD * [[@/{{Alexduckie}} This troper]] uses it enough that she's gotten two friends and three teachers hooked. She's working on some of her other friends. xD * @/{{Griffin}} has occasionally yelled out "WhatAnIdiot!", or just "WAI" when someone does something stupid. She is also slowly but surely introducing her little sister to various tropes. * @/{{DrRoy}} once stated that his ambition in life was to become a "BunnyEarsLawyer" at engineering, and then spent several minutes explaining what that is. * @/{{ConanEdogawa}} is finding it harder and harder to remember a time when he didn't have to give a 5 to 15 minute explanation of tvtropes and various other tropes to explain something he just said. He even had to make another explanation speech when he realized for the first time how much tvtropes had affected his conversations and referred to it as a verbal WikiWalk. * @/{{geek0girl0extraordinare}} found it almost impossible to write a reaction paper without thinking in tropes, and most of her time was in fact spent trying to translate it into normal language. * @/{{Skorpio}} tends throw around {{Red Shirt}} at work as of late and will often throw others out in conversation or when competing with the roommate in what's going to happen in the latest movie we are watching. * @/{{Almafeta}}'s friends have accused her of speaking with [[WeWillUseWikiWordsInTheFuture audible InterCaps]]. * This Troper is waiting for enough of his friends to speak troperese, so that we can play a game of Name That Trope, while watching any given movie. Unfortunately this could be a while as even {{Did Not Do The Research}} seems to confuse them. * This Troper and her [[LesYay best]] [[HeterosexualLifePartners friend]] are borderline telepathic, yet even she needs me to stop and translate the staggering amount of tropes appearing in my speech (note that she's a fellow Troper, too, just not as advanced as yours truly). It gets even more ridiculous when we start having a conversationg with a third person involved and we have to explain four out of five terms we use. * This Troper was startled when she referred to "lampshading" something and her best friend ended up confused. * This Troper, when writing papers, will be about to use first person "I", remember that such is improper, then be about to type in "This Troper" instead before doing a double-take and remembering that isn't proper either... * This troper picked up on another student at his school being a troper as a result of this... The fact that he mentioned LudicrousGibs

during a chess match of all things didn't really help his case. Not that it's a bad thing... At least it proves that we really ARE everywhere. * [=Miles To Go=] was recently writing a book report about a particularly preachy book, and had a hard time not using the word {{Anvilicious}} in there. On the plus side, she did manage to include PaintingTheFourthWall and NoFourthWall and got away with it. ** Just this day, we had a rhyming challenge in class. A sort of 'rhyme after me' thing. Just at the semifinals, it was me and a classmate, which went like this (classmate going first): But then I lost an arm/so what I did was full of {{Narm}} * cue twenty minute pause to explain what {{Narm}} is* and I opened up a farm/and the animals thought I had NarmCharm * cue other twenty minute pause to explain NarmCharm* * While @/{{Belle-Mage}} was taught complex words through TV Tropes, the cost was the rest of her vocabulary. * I almost call myself "this troper" all of the time on the Internet. I also am always thinking of tropes that would apply to the various things that happen to me. * @/{{Gatekeeper_Aidan}} recently was having a discussion about AynRand with a classmate in physics class (instead of doing physics, of course) and could not find another term to describe AtlasShrugged other than {{Anvilicious}}. Thankfully, his friend has apparently had his life ruined already, so the term was understood. * In addition to the standard examples covered by most of this page, this troper seem to be exhibiting a variant: TV Tropes has conditioned me so that I can no longer say anything that would have begun with [[JustifyingEdit "To be fair..."]] * I insert trope names in my everyday conversation regularly. Surprisingly, everyone I talk to never picks me up on when I'll suddenly go "The entire thing was filled with Narm" or "And the fandom rejoices(!)", so either a) I live in a community filled with tropers, b) I'm so weird now that people just ignore it when I do insert a random trope or c) certain trope names are just easy to figure out what they mean via the contexts I use them in. Hmm. * The infection has spread. [[@/AckSed This editor's]] vocabulary, once famed for its breadth and long words, has degraded to the point that I can only communicate in short words and choppy sentences. Flowing prose is now extremely hard. I also find myself using American slang, which I ''totally'' hate. * {{beat}}* D'oh! * Weird example : this troper has never used a trope name in Real Life but has recently started using the word character in otherwise normal sentences. The problem being this troper is French, and the french word for character is personnage while the similar sounding caractre has a totally different meaning. * This troper struggled not to use various trope names in an English essay before caving in and paraphrasing NewPowersAsThePlotDemands. * This troper has noticed that she keeps mentioning tropes in any and all English essays she writes. Perhaps this is the reason I didn't get top marks? * This troper uses Tropes all the time, including an email to her (troper) boyfriend that is mostly [[PotHole pot holes]]. Even got her

in trouble with her mom (an avid SixFeetUnder fan) when said troper first listened to "MacArthur Park" and shouted "[[{{Narm}} NARM]]!" at the chorus. * This troper after accidentally stumbling upon and being thoroughly traumatized the TVtropes pages for {{Anatomy of Hell}} went on a huge rant to her friends about {{Euroshlock}} films only to have everyone look at her funny and go "What the hell is Euroshlock?". Then I had to explain it. Then people started asking me why the hell I was looking at these things on the internet anyway. * This troper will often quote a trope if someone either A)places a hypothetical situation on the line, B) asks for his opinion on a work of fiction, or C)interacts with him in any way that involves editing school work. * [[@/{{Cukeman}} This troper]] had a friend state that they "speak in [=TVTropese=]" after noticing how many references to tropes we were making in our conversation. * I actuallly use trope names as part of my slang. * [[{{Tropers/Absynthe}} My]] vocabulary was actually helped by the site... imagine my shock when "{{Bowdlerize}}" showed up on a vocabulary test! ** But one day I made an argument to my English teacher that {{Beowulf}} was a MarySue, and had to give her a link to the wiki to explain it. She's now addicted. * [[{{Tropers/NoLilyOnMyGrave}} This troper]] has started counting how many times her English professor uses the word "trope" per class. His all-time record is 5. Also, when watching GetHimToTheGreek, this troper literally yelled "DracoInLeatherPants!" at the screen when Tom Felton shows up. One more example: I was at a costume contest (not in) and one of the girls was wearing a corset in order to imitate a superheroine. I giggled and whispered "MostCommonSuperpower, indeed". * This troper has used HijackedByJesus as a reason for his reluctance to watch movies with Hades as a villain. He's also tried to explain the concept of tropes to his father, who invariably fails to understand it. * [[{{Tropers/zweibaby}} This troper]] has, for example, replaced the word "slash" with "ho yay" in their vocabulary and is trying to get their sister addicted for the express purpose of being able to communicate completely in Tropes in public. And, being a budding comic book artist/writer, has begun frameworking their plotlines...using tropes. * A cab driver (i.e. total stranger) was talking about how Radiohead went from an apparent OneHitWonder ("Creep") to a popular '''and''' respected band, after their second CD ''The Bends'' turned out better than hardly anyone would have expected. I concurred, "Yeah, that was when they [[GrowingTheBeard Grew The Beard]]." Fortunately he had enough familiarity with ''[[StarTrekTNG ST:TNG]]'' so it didn't take hours for me to explain the expression. Still, I wondered [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} what he thought about me]] (by that, I don't mean his ''visible'' reaction). I must have made an impression, as...um...well, [[ShapedLikeItself something memorable]]. * I want to slap every maroon on YouTube and DeviantArt I see using any TVTropes-specific phrase, especially when they use it more than

once in a paragraph or in conjunction with others. Luckily for my sanity, that's been a low number so far. ** Er... heheheh, ouch. But why am I purple? * This troper, [[{{Tropers/Twentyfists}} Twentyfists]], has used the term "Hand Wave" to describe why he felt Harry Potter really sucked towards the end and why it was overrated. It was cool, though. Everyone else totally got it (although, as Harry Potter fans, they were less than enthused). * This troper used the term "Lyrical Dissonance" to describe a friend's music composition. The friend thought it made perfect sense, and was surprised to be unable to find anyone or anywhere else using the term except TV Tropes. * @/LongLiveHumour is summarising her Astronomy notes. There being no good name for the next section, it has become [[RecycledInSpace "Galaxies... IN SPACE!"]] * This Troper's best friend probably hates him because the Troper keeps using terms from the site. For example, he described something the best friend said as Anvilicious. * This Troper has started to use tropes in conversation, and then have to hastily give condensed explanations when peoploe give me funny looks. For instance, in English, I recently introduced my class to the concepts of Tastes Like Diabetes and Everyone Is Jesus In Purgatory. * This troper calls people ButtMonkeys. Cue the confusion of everyone who thought I was speaking of a species of monkey. * I'm always getting funny looks when I watch TV/movies with nonTropers because whenever I see an obvious one, I yell out the name of the trope (or if it happens in real life) and confuses everyone in the room. For example, during the GeneratorRex season one finale, one of the villains declines the use of an elaborate death trap. I immediately yell out "OMG HE'S GENRE SAVVY!", much to the confusion of my younger brothers. * [[Tropers/AdelePotter This Tropette]] now speaks fluent Tropenise, and will [[strike:occasionally]] always use tropes in conversation. ** For example: -->'''Me:''' God, this show TastesLikeDiabetes --> '''My Friends''': ...? ** On another occasion: --> '''Me:''' My new year's resolution is to get Gianna [my best friend] to chill out. --> '''Mom:''' Good luck. Gianna is... very... um... --> '''Me:''' {{Cloudcuckoolander}}-ish? * This record review (http://www.cokemachineglow.com/record_review/5194/shining-blackjazz2010 ) drops "anvilicious" in the first paragraph like it's nothing. * This troper has just realized he's been saying BeyondTheImpossible at an alarming rate. He also speaks [[TakeAThirdOption other]] [[YouFailIndexesForever tropes]] by name, or close to it, frequently, but this one gets the most use by far. * @/Komorebi: I recently got irritated with one of my photographers (I'm an art model). He would coo "Oh, you poor baby!" at everything from a paper cut to my casual mention of having to work three sessions in one day. I eventually snapped and told him to stop Woobiefying me

over every minor annoyance that befalls me. He had no clue what I was talking about. * When someone makes a pun, bad or not, I tend to say to myself: "IncrediblyLamePun". * Subverted by my mom picking up various phrases I use, such as BigLippedAlligatorMoment. * At ''least'' twice a day, this troper will have to follow something she said with the phrase "It's a trope" to deter her clueless family. * Tropers/JusticeReaper: I have officially joined the ranks of people who speak Troper-ese. I use it every so often in my normal speech, but I try to use the trope names in such a way that the entire sentence will still make sense to the person I'm talking to. * I have actually asked people if they read TvTropes, then I I continue to speak in tropese with things like Bifauxnen and HoYay. After that I turned to the person next to me and said "You didn't understand anything I just said did you?" SHe shook her head * My friend started speaking in tropes around the time I first started looking at it. At the time I thought it was kind of weird, but now... look! It's Collatinus' BigDamnHeroes moment! That means BigDamnHeroes is OlderThanFeudalism! (I actually said this in my Latin class, although I couldn't remember whether Ovid was OlderThanFeudalism or OlderThanDirt.) And earlier today that list of common themes in classical literature looked awfully similar to a description of tropes you might find with a Mary Sue... * In my drama class, we're doing monologues and I feel that there's this one part in mine that's kinda {{Narm}}-y. I tried to explain this to my drama teacher without using that term, but it didn't fare out rather well. * I'm always using tropespeak, and I get befuddled looks from all my friends. Except for one, who I found out also was a fan of this site. Found this out when, while we were talking about GoodOmens, she said, "[Crowley and Aziraphale] are so awesome, they are totally the epitome of an OddCouple." Cue me going wide-eyed and saying, "Tvtropes?" We bonded over that moment. * When my mom told me that my best friend apparently had a crush on a boy from our church, I tried to explain her that it was, like, [[BelligerentSexualTension complicated]] because of the [[TsunDere attitude]] of my friend and the [[JerkWithAHeartOFGold boy]]. * This troper and her friends (who also are tropers) are school librarians and everytime we write our librarian a note we always sign it 'your Elite Mooks' or 'Mr [=McDonald's=] Mooks'. He has yet to figure out what we mean. * This troper taught his writing teacher the phrase "asspull" when he used it, without thinking, during a workshop. Said professor was laughing so hard he completely missed the rest of my commentary about my peer's story. He later used it when commenting on my own story. * @/{{Aragorn}}: Tv tropes slip into my speech every now and again. Like today, I was telling my mom and sister about a BrickJoke. Also, I now think in tropes, like early in the school year, in my english class, we were talking about something, and it seemed like a HeelFaceTurn, and I actually wrote it in my notes. * This troper mother language is not English, but she began to speak

tropenese recently. It doesn't help that sometimes she translates (yes, you read right) tropes when she sees she can do it, so people around her can understand... It doesn't work quite well. But it might be funny that my older sister understand what I'm talking about in tropenese, in English or not, and she's not a troper (for example, she knows what I'm trying to say when things like WhatHappenedToTheMouse?, AssPull, TastesLikeDiabetes, TastesLikeDirt, and sort (sometimes I translate the first, third and four into Spanish, my native language). Egregious is a fairly common word where I live, it's "atroz" in Spanish, and for some reason people in Cali love to use it. * This Tropers mother language is german, and he uses tropes withouth thinking (and sometimes not knowing if it's even a trope or just normal english) in english class, especially Zeerust, Lampshade, Narm and some others. He even used it in his english exam - and had to explain it to the teacher. She didn't understand, though, that it is something from the internet and thought it would be a normal word that she didn't knew. She gave him the point. * This Troper has had to explain DeadpanSnarker and SnarkKnight to one of her friends on multiple occasions. I use other Trope names as ordinary terms which most people understand( NightmareFuel , MarySue ), but it get's awkward when I have to explain something LapshadeHanging. or the snarkers, listed above. * [[{{@/Hotrods4ben}} This Troper]] is getting to the point where he uses Trope titles in regular speech, especially when watching/talking about movies or TV. Some terms I have used while discussing media: [[AppliedPhlebotinum Phlebotinum]], GreenRocks, WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic, CrazyAwesome, ThePowerOfLove, [[ThePowerOfRock Rock]], and [[ThePowerOfFriendship Friendship]], LeaningOnTheFourthWall, ArsonMurderAndJaywalking, BeyondTheImpossible, DarkerAndEdgier, ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin, HumongousMecha and SuperRobot, LoveDodecahedron, RecycledINSPACE (which had some people confused), RuleOfCool, etc. I've also called some tropes [[InvertedTrope "Inverted"]] without any confusion. Some concepts I understood before discovering TVTropes include: {{Unobtainium}} (by name), JumpingTheShark (everyone knows what that is), GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff, PuffOfLogic (from [[TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy Hitchhiker's]]), YourHeadAsplode (from [[HomestarRunner Homestar]]), CaptainObvious, DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment, MacGuffin, {{Redshirt}}, NinjaPirateZombieRobot (from [[KingdomOfLoathing KoL]]), SuspensionOfDisbelief, SoBadItsGood, and the MST3KMantra to name a few. * This troper regularly uses {{Narm}}, and once referred to someone being a ButtMonkey. My dad thought I was talking about a gay prostitute. In fact, much of her vocabulary is frequented by this. I read an article that all but described the MarySue, and went into detail about how the Sue was PuritySue/MarySueClassic. This was for a school paper. She regularly refers to WeaksauceWeakness, DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment, and others. The only people who understand her are her friend who introduced her to this [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife addicting site]], and her other friend who inhabits the site (though less frequently). And no, I don't leave this

place. I had to explain to my English teacher what this site was, since I kept using terms from it. Also, I have said "BigLippedAlligatorMoment!" in the middle of a wtf moment in class. And was forced to explain. * This troper has definitely taken to using some of the trope names and other words used here. Often getting funny looks. But due to my personality, others who do not know of Tvtropes will think that I'm using my own words. (Since I don't bother explaining it) * This happens to [[{{@/Xx7xX}} This Troper]] a lot. I think, talk, write, and yell with Tropes in my language normally. Some examples are Constantly being pestered by others at school to the point where I yelled: "THIS ENDS NOW, GUYS! SERIOUSLY, WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THE SPOT OF THE SCHOOL ButtMonkey?!" Following this was a visit to the principal's office where I explained said trope. I have referred to myself as a DeadpanSnarker, said "Oh, man, GunsAreWorthless" When I was playing SpiralKnights, And the best example was when a girl said my only friends were [[CreepyChild 3 kids]], and 30 cats. Cut to one week later, where we were both at a meeting. She said I only had one friend, and I replied "No, you said about a week ago that I have 33. YOU JUST GOT BrickJoke'd!" AccidentalNightmareFuel and any of it's sub-tropes are also tossed around by me. * Oh goodness... Lets see i said "Narm" at a cheesy part of this movie we were watching in Honers English, constantly say something has been Lamp-shaded, have ALMOST said "this troper" IRL, called herself a "cloud coo-koo lander" and many, many other things * You know it's gotten bad when you have to quickly edit sections of your English GCSE paper at the end to make them understandable for the examiner! It's my own fault for annotating poems in tropespeak...

TwerpSweating * A bit of an unusual example for this troper. I met my wife-to-be in an online dating site. I agreed to meet her in person at church, and met her father before actually meeting her, while wearing a [[Main/BadassLongcoat full-length black leather jacket]]. He then escorted me into church and stood next to me, standing silently and attempting to intimidate me. Later, he insisted I have dinner with the family, and had The Talk with me while she was upstairs changing clothes. He told me point blank that her purity was very important to him and asked me if I planned to have sex with her. And he gave a curfew. Here's the kicker: She was 19, only living with her parents while she went to college. Being 26 myself and a black-belt martial artist, I wasn't intimidated, but rather amused and somewhat annoyed by his overprotective behavior toward his ''legally adult daughter.'' ** You're fucking awesome, you know that? Too bad you didn't just point that out to him. THAT would have been a CrowningMomentOfFunny and a CrowningMomentOfAwesome. *** Also, her purity was very important to ''him''? Eww. * My father is currently attempting this with my boyfriend, to much embarrassment and amusement. My mother, on the other hand, [[ShipperOnDeck keeps (loudly) wondering why we never kiss in front of them]]. (Considering that, [[EveryoneCanSeeIt among friends and

family]], we were already an OfficialCouple for up to a ''year'' before we started dating, this is not enormously surprising.) * The only reason I am excited to have a daughter someday is this trope as interpreted by my father towards my older sister's paramours. Oh, sure, cleaning a gun is fine, just fine - but it doesn't really have the visceral feel of ''[[KnifeNut sharpening a blade]]'' in front of some poor sap. -->"So, where're you two going tonight?" -->'''[[HellIsThatNoise *SCCCRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE*!]]''' -->"Somewhere well-lit, I hope!" * This Troper's parents have threatened to confront any boys she brings home with the "Application for Permission To Date My Daughter". They also want DNA samples, shoe sizes, GPAs, career plans, the church/synagogue/mosque they attend (and do they attend on a regular basis?), and the best time to interview their father, mother, and minister/rabbi/imam. [[OverprotectiveDad They are dead serious.]] There is a reason I am a high school junior and still have not brought home any boys. * Amusingly applied to me by several relatives of an ex-girlfriend of mine, with a slight twist: "Treat her like a princess or ''she'll'' gut you like a fish" * This troper once dated her best friend's older brother, and said best friend told me that if I hurt him, she would kill me and make it look like an accident. Then told him the same thing. So we asked what would happen if we broke up due to mutual incompatibility, and she smiled and told us she had two freshly dug graves. Her brother said "I think we should get married. How does tomorrow sound?" Thankfully, when we did break up, she didn't carry out her threat. * Genderflipped with this troper's parents. My father is generally pleasant to any boys I bring home. My mother, on the other hand, is the frighteningly overprotective one. It's quite amusing seeing as my father is a former Marine gun-nut who would totally fit the OverprotectiveDad type, but I guess he's aware I take after him enough not to fear anything going wrong. * My father, my mother, my older sister, and I all teamed up on my younger sister's ex when they first started going out. My parents both warned him that they're not afraid of going back to prison (they weren't joking), my older sister decided that would be the perfect time to clean her shotgun while giving the guy a glare that could whither your soul, and my mom, my big sis and I all warned him that if our little sister said the word, there would be quite a few curses with his name on them. Her best friends all did pretty much the same thing when they first met her boyfriend, except instead of shotguns, spells, and previous arrests, they had crossbows, knives, and baseball bats. ** This trope was also averted at the last second the first time one of my best friends (a guy) came over to my house for the first time. I'd told him about the times my little sister had brought boys home to meet her family. As soon as he saw my dad, he said "Sir, before you tell me to stay away from your daughter, I'd like you to know that I'm gay." My dad replied "Okay, you're allowed near her, then." * I actually managed to win over an ex-girlfriend's dad by resisting

this with sarcasm (Fun fact: The man had lost a toe in a car accident when he was a teenager). I go over to pick up the girl and he's trying to do the scary dad routine sitting on the porch barefoot. As we're leaving he tells me to have her home by eleven and he'll know if we're on time of not because he'll be downstairs cleaning his guns. I point at his foot and said "This time make sure they're not loaded." Suddenly the curfew was midnight. ---Now go on back to Main/TwerpSweating, and have her back by ten. [[Main/DramaticGunCock Understood?]] ----

TwiceToldTale ---Direct the wolf away from her grandmother's house and take the shortcut there through TwiceToldTale. ----

TwinDesynch * Troper is an identical twin. She keeps her hair long, occasionally dyes it, wears casual and colorful clothing, and fixes computers. Her sister favors her hair short, is 50 pounds heavier, favors conservative clothing, and works as a librarian. Twin is also married and Troper is not. Aside from the fact that we're both flaming cases of ProudToBeAGeek, we put more effort into our differences.

TwinPeaks * This Troper grew up in the town where a large portion of the show was filmed. So, it is often difficult to watch episodes because the show is either too weird, or too familiar. [[http://thisrecording.com/storage/twin_peaks_17.jpg This picture]] is a good example: this Troper used to walk up and down those railroad tracks (when there wasn't one of those slow-moving trains about) and oftentimes jumped off the abandoned train bridges into the Snoqualmie river during the summer. ** Different Troper same feeling. It's hard to watch the show knowing where most of the locations really are as well as seeing how much your high school has changed since the early 90's. * This show has a deep emotional impact on this troper,especially the scenes of Mr.Horne's childhood * If you're a Pacific Northwest native, some of Lynch's names are pitch black humor. D.B. Cooper is an alias that a hijacker used to rob a plane and parachute out over the Columbia River (presumed dead, but Ghu knows). Harry Truman wasn't named for the president, but for a proud curmudgeon of an old man who refused to leave his lodge near Mt. St. Helens and died when the mountain blew.

TwinSwitch * This troper has a professor who's an identical twin. Sometimes, her twin comes to school, and the professor puts her in a lab coat and has her hang out in the hallway or something. And of course, everyone thinks it's actually the professor, when in fact it's the twin...and gets mighty confused when they see the actual professor (usually wearing a different shirt under her lab coat) later on. * This troper is an identical twin. This April fools day we subverted this trope by switching clothes, and using each other's names and mannerisms, going to school but not switching classes. I pulled a double bluff on a friend of mine by getting him to believe that I was my brother, who had switched places with me to fool the rest of the class, who were in fact In on the whole thing. * MutantRancor here. My aunts Jean and Joan once pulled this off. At a school event, their high school classes were separated. One was allowed to get up and get a drink from the water fountain, and the other wasn't. The one who was switched places with the one who wasn't for a few minutes so she could get a drink. * Averted hard with this Troper. Technically, my twin and I are identical, but have deliberately altered our appearances to look different. That, and we're different enough in personality that even casual acquaintances can figure out which is which. * My 6-year-old twin nieces (technically fraternal, but look extremely alike) try this quite often, just for fun. Their personalities, expressions, and body language are so different, though, that it never works for more than a few minutes. * My brother might be 3 years older than me, but we look similar at first glance and have worked that to our advantage more than once: such as when I took a drug test in his place to help him land a job (though I did tell him to cut back on the ganja), or when he "lost" his ID (ie, let me have it while he got a duplicate, so that I could get into clubs when I was younger). Um yeah, we were a tad mischievous back in the day. * I went to school with two girls who were identical. One was extremely talented academically, while the other was an average student. Sadly, their parents expected them to get identical grades and severely punished the average twin for getting B's (which was very good considering her intelligence). Her fear of her parents went so far, that the academic sister actually took her college [=SATs=] for her. ---Now go back and [[TwinSwitch switch places with your twin]]. He's probably bored by now.

TwinTelepathy * While going through a list of things that we weren't allowed to do during a exam, our teacher suddenly mentioned that telepathy was forbidden, to the confusion of everyone present. He went on to explain that a few years ago he had twins in his class, and on one occasion, after the two turned in identical exams in all aspects, the teacher

accused them of cheating, though they assured him they hadn't. To make sure this wasn't in fact the case, the next time there was an exam he separated them and sat them on the opposite ends of the classroom, keeping an eye on them at all times. Needless to say the teacher was surprised when he graded their exams and once again found that they had written the exact same answers and the very same mistakes (even the same spelling errors), even though they hadn't even glanced at each other during that time. Since then, the teacher has always mentioned that twin telepathy is not allowed during exams. ** I see a lot of transfer student records in my job. You can tell when some folks are twins because they have taken pretty much the same classes and gotten the same grades in them. There might be ONE class variation. I can buy this. ---My twin telepathy is telling me we have to go back to the [[TwinTelepathy Main Page]].

TwitchyEye * [[LuoYe This Troper]] has a slight but noticeable one in his right eye. Because of it, people have come to the conclusion that I have some kind of hidden persona of evil. * [[TheTallOne This Tropette]] develops one when I play video games too much. And I tend to play video games for upwards of 5 hours a day when I'm off my anti-depressant and in an all-around terrible mood. * This Troper may have acquired this tic due to dust, paint and dirt allergies. The tic, combined with messy hair and baggy eyes, makes this troper look like a crazy maniac. * [[DaveIX This troper's]] father sports an impressively twitchy eye, which this troper seems to have inherited... * My right eye twitches completely at random. It's not too often that it does, though. According to witnesses, it's unnoticeable from the outside, but it can get really annoying just from the feeling it gives. * [[ArrowDnarrow This Tropette]] can make her left eye twitch at command. Which is saved for perfect comedic timing. ** Same for [[{{Trkzsoup}} this tropette]], down to the left eye being the twitchy one. * [[{{Kuzlalala}} This Troper]] does this often, but not often enough to be noticed much. * [[RadioactiveSpider This tropette]] developed a twitch in her right eye in middle school. It was due to stress and insomnia. It has stayed with me ever since, and has gotten progressively worse. Thankfully, only people who know me well or spend several hours with me notice it, because I stubbornly avoid eye contact. * This troper had a TwitchyEye when a former crush asked in the middle of having lunch with her, why this troper doesn't date people. Cue the uncontrolled eye twitching... AllergicToLove indeed. ** Pretty sure it was just the left eye. * This troper's left eye twitches uncontrollably when angered, saddened or frustrated. Extreme dosages of unpleasantness get the right eye going too.

* Me too. But it only happens with my left eye, and only when I'm really stressed. Apparently, it twitches so fast that no one can see it. * [[Tropers/KatanaCat This Troper]]'s eye sometimes twitches, sometimes regardless of her emotional state, but most often when frustrated (usually due to a video game), or sometimes when angry (which is rarely purely anger, but frustration in said Troper usually leads to threatening the life of Yuji Naka, one of the creators of [[SonicTheHedgehog Sonic the Hedgehog]]). * this troper was trying to explain something that he learned watching history channel when the twitching started, i had just come up with a plan for singularity travel and when i tried to explain it the words just wouldn't come to mind, it got to the point where i was just shy of going "kitten calender, kitten calender, kitten calender!" finally about a year or so latter i was able to fully explain my idea. minus the crazy eye twitch. it still happens when i fumble too much on my ideas. * Both of this troper's eyes twitch, not at at the same time though. It mostly happens when I'm angry, staring at something, playing video games/reading for too long, and rarely happens absolutely randomly. My cat's left eye also twitches when he's sleepy. * [[Tropers/SukiSelfDestruct I]] can do this at will with my right eye. Freaks people out, too. * This troper has Tourette's syndrome, so she gets twitchy eyes a lot, as well as nose, mouth, shoulders, throat, and fingers. The eye twitches are some of the ''least'' inhibitive to daily life; for instance, when it's her fingers, doing anything at all with her hands is a massive effort, and when her throat gets it, it's nearly impossible to speak and pretty difficult to breathe. Suffice it to say, it's not quite as funny to experience it as it is to see it... * [[Tropers/{{Wheezy}} This troper's]] right eye both twitches and whenever he's under a lot of stress or has had too much caffiene ''pulsates''. His therapist says it's caused by prolonged stress. He also has a full head twitch and, at times, a barely noticable VocalTic that makes him make quiet guttural noises. No wonder he's having problems with dating. * [[{{Leliel}} This one]] does it when [[FakeSmile forced to smile too long]]. I overuse the facial muscles when I am trying to grin, and it exhausts the right side of my face. * As most of the people here can attest, this is usually the sign of an incoming [[SanitySlippage mental breakdown]]. * [[{{Tropers/KingSonnDeeDoo}} This Troper's]] left eye twitches when she's stressed, or aggravated. She can also make it twitch on purpose. * This Troper, when confronted with something absolutely mindboggling-ly stupid, has been told her eye started twitching. * This troper's developed an infrequent twitch in her right eyelid in the last nine months, which have been full of SanitySlippage and all kinds of stress. In fact, you can tell when I'm distressed because I start twitching ''everywhere''. (Well, "everywhere" is an exaggeration, but I get twitches in my arms, legs, and butt muscles.) Nobody's commented on it so far. * This troper's shoulder and neck muscles, in addition to his eyelids,

have a tendency to randomly twitch and jerk when he's in full CloudCuckooLander mode. It tends to creep others out when he's just sitting completely still, oblivious to almost all outside stimuli, and suddenly he convulses and his head jerks to one side. * Most people are likely to twitch more when they are high on sugar. [[{{Tropers/SkyeSlipstream}} This troper]] twitches his eyes when he is ''low'' on sugar. ---Go back to TwitchyEye... * twitchtwitch* ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TwoEyesGoodFourEyesBad * In addition to thanking JK Rowling for making kids ''want'' to read, we should thank her for helping discredit this trope. My nephew flunked his first eye test about the time HP book 3 came out, and the reaction of his classmates was "Cool, you get to wear glasses!" Let's just say that was ''not'' the reaction his father/my brother and I got when we first got glasses. * When this troper got glasses in fourth/fifth grade the first day one boy in the class next door sent a paper plane with the text "glasgon orm" (the swedish word for "Indian Cobra" but literally meaning glasses snake)and after that she never wore them again, only sneaking them up after the lights were turned off when watching movies. It was not until seventh grade that she started to use them full time (and really needed to), though she only wore them a for about half a year before switching to lenses. * I switched from glasses to contacts almost two years ago. Admittedly, this was not because of any dislike for glasses or having been teased about them. I want to go into broadcast journalism, and glasses catch glare from lighting. So it's just practicality. * When this troper was 13, she had to get glasses, and was afraid of being teased. Much to my surprise, no one cared when I got them; [[{{Meganekko}} most people actually thought I looked nicer with them]]. * My mother thought this when I started having vision problems. ---> '''Me:''' Mom, I think I need glasses. ---> '''Mom:''' But they'll make you look like a nerd! ---> '''Me:''' I don't care, I need them to see! * My mom got made fun of when she was little for having glasses. * My glasses give me horrible headaches! I already have frickin tension issues, I do '''NOT''' need something meant to ''help'' me making my life hell! * The summer before fourth grade, I found out I needed glasses. I cried and cried because I would look like a nerd and people would make fun of me, and got contacts as soon as my family would let me (sixth grade). I flip-flopped back and forth in the intermediary years about how I felt wearing glasses. Now that I'm in college, I fully embrace it as part of my inherent geekiness (and it totally works for catching the nerdy guys, who love to see a girl in glasses). ----

Get those glasses back on so you can see the path back to TwoEyesGoodFourEyesBad.

TwoferTokenMinority * Coming from a deeply Christian, conservative (and hence, heterosexist) African country with a disturbing focus on blood and culture purity, [[{{Tropers/Erkhyan}} I]] have [[SarcasmMode a lot of fun]] being the gay, clear-skinned, mixed-race, French-speaking guy. * Asexual, Biracial (Half-Asian, Half White) agnostic woman reporting for duty. Also, one of my friends is a black lesbian. ** I'm the same, only black instead of half-Asian, half-White. I'm also a virgin (which is apparently rare for my age group) and I have synesthesia (but it's the more common kind, where you see the colors of sounds, so maybe that doesn't count). * Pansexual atheist half-Filipino nerd, reporting for duty! * This troper's RPG group had for many years one female member, who also rode a wheel-chair and was a practicing Seventh-Day Adventist (making her a threefer?). ** Fourfer, possibly- She was in your RPG group, therefore she was most likely a geek. ** Being a member of an RPG group hardly qualifies one as a minority in that RPG group. [[CaptainObvious Most members of RPG groups are members of RPG groups.]] *** Her RPG character would die if it was killed. * Forget twofers, this troper knows a ''sevenfer'': a female {{transsexual}} pansexual deaf dyslexic [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold sex worker]] from a cultural minority. She is also a huge geek and studies an obscure yet cool science. * {{Racha}} is a Jewish lesbian dyspraxic. It makes filling in job applications extra fun. * [[{{SharPhoe}} This troper]] is black and gay, which [[WorseThanItSounds is much harder than one would think...]] * Bisexual Jew here. Not as impressive as some of the others mentioned above, but still... * This troper's friend is Bisexual, pagan and a girl. ** Meh, better synergy than a bisexual jew. ** Slightly more than 50% of all the people on the planet are female. Being a girl hardly makes you a minority. * This troper is a fivefer- pansexual, female, atheist, has MismatchedEyes, and is a huge geek. ** Same here, except this troper has KaleidoscopeEyes instead of MismatchedEyes. * Half-Mexican, Half-Jewish, and Atheist n_n * This troper is black, white, Chinese, Amerindian, Indian, and Syrian and Scottish Jew. * Part-Jewish, part-Irish, part-Italian, part (very small part)-IndoIranic, mood disorder, IQ in the >160 range, ''huge'' geek/nerd/dork/otaku/all of the above, pronounced limp, follower of two obscure philosophers named Nishida Kitaro and Thomas Merton. * This probably counts. This troper in a old World of Darkness room plays a Silver Fang kinfolk Troll. He also plays a Shadow Lord kinfolk

Boggan. * Pagan gamer. Thanks to everyone here for making me feel normal. * This troper is Female, Dominican (and is of mixed White, African & Taino ancestry), Agnostic and a geek joining the party! * Greek, Maori, art-major, nerd and occasional token straight guy. Just to confuse the hell out of everyone, I'm also a polyglot. * [[{{Nightboomfer}} This troper]] is asian, pansexual, and autistic. * [[{{Anima}} This troper]] is a left-handed autistic female pagan libertarian. There are some meta-tokens here. Autism is even more rare in females, and the pagan libertarian thing is kinda self-explanatory. ** And this troper's entire close circle seems to be made up of these. Black lesbian? Check. Australian Jew? Yup. We even had a Hispanic guy in a wheelchair. *** You could start a goup that fights crime, Saban Sailor Moon style. *** For us, it was more like X-Men. or Power Rangers. * [[{{this-guy}} A]] ''real'' twofer: Mixed-race atheist. * [[{{fidheallir}} This troper]] is a of mixed race ([[{{HalfBreed}} 3/4 Scottish, 1/4 Native American]]), [[{{EveryoneIsBi}} openly bisexual]], pagan, and of a "[[{{WrongSideOfTheTracks}} disadvantaged socioeconomic background]]" (she attends a historically [[{{BlueBlood}} elite and snobby]] Massachusetts college). This and several other features have led to some of her [[GenreSavvy Genre Savvy]] friends to refer to her as "[[MarySue Mary Sue]]". * This Troper is Female, a redhead, Jewish, a quater Russian, and an Atheist (and speaks both Hebrew and Russian fluently but is much more fluent in English and has no accent). * This Troper is Indian (from India), female (if that counts), atheist, and foreign (but not a FOB). Also, her first language isn't English or Hindi, which makes her a linguistic minority in both the U.S. and India. * A friend of this troper is Thai, Jewish and asexual. * I'm asexual, left-handed, and agnostic. * Left-footed, red-haired and autistic misanthrope. * Jewish, left handed, vegetarian. And her group of friends consists of Chinese Jews, Hispanic Jews, Indian Jews, Japanese Jews, Jewish redheads, and her brother is a Spanish-Jewish redheaded left-handed NASA scientist in an interracial marriage with a Japanese woman and they're adopting a Korean baby. * This Troper herself is an Asian female in a pretty much mostly white community surrounded daily by more males then females. (That being said, this Troper doesn't beleive she's seen a black person in a while due to the extreme whiteness). * This troper is an asexual bigender deist/Quaker and U.S. American socialist of an evidently ethnically indistinct appearance (most common guesses: Hispanic, Jewish, and Indian). This troper is actually Italian, Irish, Austrian, Croatian, English, Scotch-Irish, Flemish, Welsh and probably a few other things, but doesn't expect you to remember that, honest. * [[{{IncrediblyLamePun}} Gaytheist here.]] As in gay atheist. I happen to live in [[{{DeepSouth}} Texas]], so [[{{Drowzee64}} This Troper]] doesn't know how he'll tell his conservative parents and friends.

* This troper's friend got some insanely good scholarships for being Indian, physically handicapped, and a girl going into a predominantly male major. * My circle of friends is all white agnostics except for one black Jewish girl. * This troper is a fourfer: a female bixexual atheist {{GamerGirl}}. * This Troper is a Black, Bisexual, Virginal, Agnostic, Libertarian, Austistic, Overweight, Internet Addicted Woman. * [[{{Tropers/Luna87}} This troper]] is a bisexual, black, vegan, Buddhist/New Age {{Granola Girl}}/[[TheLadette Ladette]] who is ProudToBeAGeek. * This troper is a white, insulin resistant, bisexual half-American goth with ADD. This is magnified by the fact that I am the singular white girl in a group of Asians. ** I also have a friend who is a half Persian, half Indian English girl who is also a practicing Zoroastrian. *** And a bisexual, half-Jewish, half-Kiwi vegan. * [[TheTallOne I]] know a black man with glasses in a wheelchair who is deaf in one ear. He often jokes about finding is a Mexican sexworker with a PhD and a [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold heart of gold]] and [[TheyFightCrime fighting crime]]. * This troper is hispanic, part-russian, bisexual, agnostic and the only geek in her group of friends. * This troper is genderqueer, biologically female, asexual, mentally ill, a sexual abuse survivor, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking a practicing, devout Christian.]] (The last one only counts given this troper's circle of friends, which is mostly composed of decidedly-notHollywood atheists.) * [[{{Valbinooo}} Asexual(I'm pretty sure) and left-handed.]] * Asian-born female with asperger's syndrome. I know it ain't much. * Transsexual gay atheist. * How about Buddhist, bi, and Aspergerian? And if "geek" counts as a minority, given some other comments here... * Atheistic depressed ADHD (on medication) bisexual geek here. * This troper was born and raised in the American South. However, her best friends are a female Chinese-Canadian med school student (She's an LJ/chat buddy and a pen pal, but she's still my best friend.) and a left-handed gay male (Which is harder than you'd think in a small Southern town). Also, we are all bespectacled and geeky in our own special ways. * ThisTroper has friends that are: ** African American and Jewish ** Half-Dominican and Jewish ** Half-Chinese and openly gay * One of this troper's friends is a short, gay Filipino. * {{JackRudd}} is half-Trinidadian and has Asperger's Syndrome and epilepsy. * This troper is white - which qualifies me as a member of a minority group in South Africa - add to that the fact that I'm a bisexual, left-handed, atheist, radical left-winger who has eyes that change colour depending on my mood (ranging from amber when I'm happy, to green when I'm depressed, to brown when I'm angry) - ''and'' I wear

prescription glasses... Sevenfer Token Minority, anyone? * This troper's father told him how, in the late 1960s, his manager got all the employees together to ask if any of them were a "quarter anything" because the company was focusing on diversity. One man replied, "Well, I'm about half pissed off that you're asking us this." Later on the manager remarked, "Christ, what I wouldn't give for a couple of crippled black women." * I have multiple examples of this in my family: one cousin is Filipino and Black, her daughter is Filipino, Black and white, and I have another cousin that is Hungarian and black. Also, my aunt's tenant living in her basement is-get ready for it- a Ethiopian and Puerto Rican Jewish gay rapper. I am not making this up. * This tropers family. He is Irish, German, Scot, French, Russian, Black, Creole, Samoan, Native American, while being nerdy and ADHD. My Wife is Korean and Mexican. We are hoping for children. If there is an Hebrew and south asian couple that would like to try to arrange a future marriage for the kids we are taking applications. * Indian atheist liberal in Texas just dropping in to say hi. I am also very tall. * Bisexual left-hander. As I call it, "the forgotten minorities". ** You want forgotten? This troper is a bisexual Native American. And not even one of the favorite tribes. * Agnostic Arabian from Morocco who happens to be Bi is here, I hope I didn't miss the party. * This troper has a teacher's aide at his high school who is a fourfer, half black, half Indian, gay, and a convert to Judaism. He's also really nerdy but that goes [[BlackAndNerdy elsewhere]]. * This troper is asexual and agnostic. * This troper is an atheistic, Buddhist, {{Asexual}}, black-Latino, GamerChick, {{Otaku}} (Japanese sense), [[{{Transsexual}} bigender]], vegetarian (wants to become a vegan) who is sickly and [[{{Bifauxnen}} likes crossdressing]]. Bonus points for that she was born in America but is moving to Canada. * Pastylover2 is an English guy who moved to Canada four years ago. He also has cerebral palsy. * Bisexual, pagan, part-Italian nerd over here. (One of my best friends is half-black, half-Filipino, a furry, also a nerd, and also bi.) * Nerdy Jewish lesbian with PTSD here. (In the closet about the last two parts, though.) * This troper's TokenMinority at her church is a black man in a wheelchair. * Gay, atheist, theatre kid, polyglot, objectivist, goth, vegan, schizophrenic, bi-polar, gifted (IQ 165), left-handed, tall, freakishly thin (but not anorexic) so I'm a thirteenfer. * Gay, athiest, furry, goth and gifted. I'm five minorities in one! ** An actual twofer I know is a girl in my school who's black and from England * This tropette is black, German, Irish, Native American, left-handed (and an otaku-in-training) ** I'm a quadruple/sextuple threat! * Atheist Australian liberal in the DeepSouth speaking.

* I'm a geeky left-handed nonreligious bisexual autistic anarchist, and probably part Native American on my dad's side. I have a friend who's a gay transsexual autistic pagan. * This troper is a gay goth Asian first generation immigrant. * This troper is a part-Welsh, part-English androgynous autistic living in Scotland * This troper is a bisexual, bigendered, multiracial (white, Native American, and Hispanic) eclectic witch with Asperger's Syndrome and PTSD. * This troper is a threefer: female, autistic, and identifies as queer. She is also a liberal, a Polack, fat, a Quaker, geeky, and is almost blind without her glasses. * [[{{Tropers/Hammerhead}} I'm]] Male bisexual (the minority in the minority of the minority group), agnostic (man, [[SarcasmMode I really need to stop sitting on the fence!]]), quasi furry, Part mexican, part Native American, part Yugoslavian, and has several comorbid mental disorders. Oh, and I also [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking agree with The Green Party on most things, and would most easily be classified as a Social Democrat]]. * I am a [[ButNotTooForeign half-Italian]] gay (?) artist and music aficionado. I'm not too impressive, but I got to meet a quarterArgentinian quarter-Welsh half-New Yorker Jewish geeky musician who lived in California. ---Your blind deaf mute epileptic quadriplegic paranoid schizophrenic bipolar left-handed half-black half-asian transsexual androgynous lesbian asexual Jewish friend with Tourette's syndrome wants to be wheeled back to Main/TwoferTokenMinority. Give her a hand, will you? ---<<|TroperTales|>>

TwoFirstNames * This troper has two first names. He often makes fun of others with a similar problem. For instance, people with two first names are jackasses and I'm sure Drew William will agree. Cue anger from Drew William. (Note: I do not know anyone with this name.) * This troper's name is Sean Garrick Bryan. Not only do I have two first names, but my middle name is a surname. To make matters even more confusing, I go by my middle name. * [[{{Scifantasy}} My]] entire (male) family has this problem in spades. I'm American; my surname is a common American given name (as is my given name, of course). Ditto, therefore, my father, my paternal uncle, my paternal grandfather...you get the picture. To make matters worse, all of us also have given names for middle names, so really, we all have ''three'' first names. I knew a kid in high school whose given name sounded like a surname...I always joked about offering to swap one for one. * Two friends of [[{{Haza}} This Troper]] have this. One's name is Alejandro Martn -- both are male names. The other is a girl who isn't related at all to the first, but shares his male last name: Nerea

Martn. * This tropers sister wants to have a kid named [[XtremeKoolLetterz Jaxon]]. I can also distinctly remember once having an argument with my mother about whether Nash is a first or last name. Oh, and I once knew a guy named Jordan, and I think there may have been someone named Smith as a first name at my middle school. * The Martin sisters in this troper's school. Leah, Serena, and Felicia, from eldest to youngest. ** Beautiful names!! * This troper used to know a kid called Micheal Davis. I don't know if Davis was his middle or last name, but everyone just called him Micheal Davis. * This troper's dermatologist is Lee Scott Albert. It took about ten times to get his name in the right order in my head. * This Troper has a friend called Lydia-Ellen. She barely ever uses it, though. * This troper's family name is Bruce. This being an unambiguously male name and this troper being female with no brothers (although I do have a sister), the only member of my immediate family to get the full TwoFirstNames thing is my dad, Ian Bruce. There's also my uncles: Jerry Bruce, Glen Bruce, and Clifford Bruce. ** Hey there fellow Bruce! This troper ''is'' male however, so he does have this trope. *** Hi! Together with my friend Bruce (in his case it's a given name), we could recreate that MontyPython sketch. * This Troper's family has noticed that many French serial killers have two first names (Monique Olivier, Guy Georges, Emile Louis...) and has wondered if such people have issues with identity due to their name. Incidentally, this troper's father's surname is Jean, one of the most common first names in France... * This Troper's classmate has two surnames who are also surnames ([[GenderBlenderName Alisson]] Rogrio Maria). * This troper's mother's name was originally Sue, but her adoptive parents changed it to "Linda". * There is a student at this troper's previous college named Nick Brock. The philosophy teacher lampshaded this by commenting that he had "a perfect name for an ActionHero". * My best friend has three names, which can all be used as first names, although his last name is a female name. * This troper has three first names, along with alliterative initials. And hates it. * My best friend, due to the fact that she doesnt want someone she knew in the past to find her, has two names. One is her birth name, which is used by her family and close friends, the other is a name she gave herself for use in public and on facebook. I never address her by her name in unfamiliar situations as I dont know what she is known by to all of the people we are with, I wait til someone calls her by her name. * This troper had a friend called Thomas George. We all called him George, even the teachers. * This troper's distant uncle named [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Randy]] [[BeyondTheImpossible Randall]].

* This troper's show choir director has the name Amy Carley. For her first year with us, a good portion of the school thought her first name was Carley. Also, our choreographer's name is Kevin Chase. * I've been told I "have a first name for a last name," but I've only met one person in my life with my last name for a first name, while I've met several other people unrelated to me with my last name. * This Troper has a full name made up of three first names: Zachary Amos Paul. Granted, Amos is a rather old fashioned name, but it still counts. He also gets cool initials because of it, which he uses for his usual username (including for this site) of {{Tropers/MrZAP}}. Actually, ''both of my parents and my sister'' also count as having three first names, and my dad uses his middle name Reid because his family has a whole bunch of people named James (his first name). And ''it gets better'', as my mother's first name is Donna, so, while it's not spelled the same way, by parent's names together are Donna Reid. Considering some of us give the two cats our last names as well, both of them count as Sofie and Rocky Paul. It's just ridiculous. And I love it. ---Go back to Main/TwoFirstNames, Mr. Fred. <<|TroperTales|>>

TwoSiblingsInOne * [[@/{{Koveras}} This troper]] once based a DungeonsAndDragons character around this concept. She was a meek priestess of Mystra whose badass LadyOfWar older sister died protecting her and was, by the grace of her patron deity, allowed to live on by sharing a body with her. In gameplay terms, it allowed me to flip between a low-level priestess to a high-level warrior skill sets whenever it was necessary (though all physical attributes, including hit points, remained the same). Also, the first time I did it, my party thought my character became possessed and prepared a ''bona fide'' exorcism. ----

TyopOnTheCover * The theater company that [[Tropers/RandomSurfer I]] am involved with had a poster made for one production which had a typo. (One can spell this business either "Theatre" or "Theater." -er is the American spelling, but -re is in our company's official name.) Anyway, the designer - who was a volunteer - split the difference and spelled it "Theatere." Nobody caught it in time. * I have seen a Kurt Kobain t-shirt at a store. The correct spelling is Kurt Cobain. * My yearbook for Senior year of high school had different positive characteristics, like "dependable" and "resourceful". But then they also had "intellegent". The correct spelling is "intell'''i'''gent".

TypeCasting * In all of [[ThisTroper This Troper's]] theatrical involvement, e's either been an annoying talking animal, comedic relief, or both at the same time. * [[ARandomSerf This troper]] has a tendency to get cast as mentally unbalanced characters, often of a sweet or romantic bent, who drop dead by the end of the play. * When [[{{Pinkbaron}} this troper]] was involved in her community theatre, she was always cast as an old lady or a teacher. * This troper is always cast as slightly crazy characters, always young and ranging from sweetly confused to completely off their rockers. * This troper is always cast as a narrator (and often gives the funniest performance) * Having an English voice in a Scottish church youth group meant that whenever there was a need to have someone as royalty or even just with a slightly articulate voice like a newsreader, this troper was called upon. * A female friend of this troper's was often cast as the male lead for many plays. It started in tenth grade while preparing for a rendition of {{Macbeth}}. A week or so before the play was to be shown, our male lead needed some surgery that took about two weeks to heal from. The drama club decided this troper's friend would be perfect for the role for no other purpose than the fact that she actually ''was'' [[ViolentGlaswegian Scottish]]. * In a non-theatrical example, this troper (an avid text roleplayer) tends to play [[LaughingMad somewhat]] [[ButtMonkey eccentric]] characters. It seems to surprise people that I'm capable of writing a character who isn't neurotic, scarred by some childhood trauma, a sociopath, or whimsically demented. It's just... somewhat difficult. And in actual theater, while I'm definitely the boisterous, overdramatic, histrionic type, for some reason people imagine me playing a great feeble old man...? * This troper's been cast twice as an old lady, once when 11 and the second time at age 20. She can't quite decide whether it's because of her acting skills...or just because drama club directors see her as an old woman. * This female Tropette always gets cast as pompous old men. This works, though, because she is a [[LargeHam Larger Ham]] then many of the boys, who get the parts that require "subtlety," whatever that is. * I've noticed this happens a lot in my drama club. I have a female friend who's always a guy, a friend who's always an old lady, a friend who always plays the evil bitch (for a reason), a small friend who always plays the creepy follower (Abu, Thing 1, Puck, etc), and a friend who tends to play the slut. * [[IncrediblyLamePun (Troper) ThisTroper]] * [[MarieArouet This troper]] who is a sophmore in high school always gets cast as an old woman: Mrs. Mortar in The Children's Hour, Miss Lynch in Grease (in a community college where they had many older choices for Miss Lynch), or as a goofy boy. Granted she's 6'1", but she would also like to be a plain old age-appropriate character once in a while...

* This troper's RP characters are almost always undead of some sort and have some kind of tragic past. Sociopathic male vampire trapped in a mansion with girls? Accidentally killed the girl he loved in a fit of bloodlust some time beforehand and harshly realized the [[StartOfDarkness monster]] [[FreudianExcuse he]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone became]]. A little ghost girl haunting an orphanage? Died of pneumonia about a week after being placed in the orphanage due to the unexpected death of her single mother. Even if they were never dead to begin with but probably should be given what they lived through, there's always been some (often ironic) tragedy in their life. Less so in real life drama class. * [[Lupine_Volt This Troper]] has noticed that a trend is beginning. With both Harry Beaton from Brigadoon and Dr. Neville Craven from The Secret Garden, I notice that I keep being the designated villian who ends up not getting the girl. Not at all bad people, just losers. * Back in junior high and high school, I was almost always cast as the (often snarky, but not always) mother/maternal figure and otherwise straight man to the more comedic characters. By the time senior year rolled around, I was actively attempting to avoid getting placed in such roles at all costs. For the most part, it worked. * I am pretty much always cast as the narrator in plays I do. This was subverted twice, however. * A few years back I went to a drama school, from age 12 to 15. During that time I came to be typecasted as "the funny guy" or the deadpan snarker, probably because I was the class resident deadpan snarker. In our last year however, this became subverted, as we were allowed to make our own projects. Two girls wrote a (pretty good, actually) play against bullying and about love. It was, in other words, not expected that they would ask me to play the angsty, troubled lead. But I worked! * This troper's usually cast as the character who gets [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment one scene]] onstage with less than ten lines. * A friend of this troper was cast as [[LesMiserables Jean Valjean]] in the fall musical and soloed as [[JesusChristSuperstar Jesus]] in the song Gethesmane in the spring show. ** The troper himself has yet to be typecast, though, since he has only been in one play in high school. But he was [[TheCaineMutiny Willy Keith]], so he was kind of himself. * This Troper tends to be typecast in theatre as a narrator or mentor, if there is one, if not the resident CloudCookooLander. In online RP's, he's typecast as the depraved psychotic villain because he does it so well. <<|TroperTales|>>

UglyCute It's great to see that many tropers believe that FreakyIsCool. See also JustBugsMe/WhatMeasureIsANonCute. Remember: [[CutenessProximity Proximity]] is a factor in considering

things cute. * For [[{{Tropers/Floria}} This Troper]], a lot of RealLife animals fall into this category, such as wolf eels, star nosed moles, and hairless cats. ** Pug dogs especially, with their Big PuppyDogEyes and their [[CutenessProximity widdle worried wook makes you go d'aww, whoza cute widdle puppy :3]]... *** Pugs are adorable, period. They're ridiculous looking and are a slap in the face to evolution, but they're adorable. Look at dah shnookums, isn't he the cuuuuutest?? If you don't agree I'll be forced to resort to violence. (This troper is a little too in love with her dog) *** Don't forget Puggles. Mine is precious! *** Pugs, Shar-peis, and Chinese crested dogs were specifically bred with this in mind. *** Don't forget the Boxer Dogs... After a certain age, they look weird, but they are so cuddly and playful! Having a boxer is like having an eternal puppy :3 *** No kidding. This troper's cousin has a dog who is (we think) part Mastiff, part Boxer, and part Great Dane. She's ''huge'' and not the prettiest thing -- but she is absolutely a RealLife incarnation of the BigFriendlyDog trope. **** Sorry, but [[ItJustBugsMe It Just Bugs]] [[{{Tropers/Hremsfeld}} Me]]: If we're talking about '''dogs'''... why is everyone using the '''cat''' smiley? :3 ***** It's not a kitty smilie. It's a happy face smilie. *** This troper has had a soft spot for the pug breed (despite his mom finding them hideous). His first dog to own on his own will be a pug, in a couple of years... *** ...This troper has never thought of pugs as ugly. She can understand why other people would, but the pug is just cute cute to her. ** Similarly, Boston Terriers. They've got that same "ran into a brick wall at high speed" look as boxers and bulldogs, but with bonus bug eyes, big pointy ears, and no tail. In addition, they're prone to losing eyes (about half the older Bostons I've known have only had one), many of them are so overbred that they get all kinds of bizarre diseases, and they have gas like you wouldn't believe. They are also [[http://www.mydogbreed.com/images/boston-terrier.jpg the absolute most adorable little tuxedo-wearing mutants]] since [[EverythingsBetterWithPenguins penguins]]. I mean, [[http://www.dogscentral.com/dog-breeds/boston-terrier-puppy/bostonterrier3.jpg just look at this ugly-as-sin little guy]] and tell me you don't want to hug him.[[hottip:*:Boston Terrier ''[[EverythingsPreciousWithPuppies puppies]]'', on the other hand, are [[{{Understatement}} conventionally cute]]. Like, [[http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images16/BostonTerrierMYA4months.JPG REALLY]].]] ** My sister considers my black lab/border collie mix this mainly because he's old, dirty, and has smelly breath, he's still conventionally cute to my brother and I at least with his wide eyes,

fluffy coat, and his reactions to certain things. * [[Tropers/TragicTheDragon This troper]] has a soft-spot for unconventionally cute animals like you wouldn't believe. Just a quick list: Assassin Bugs, Caddisflies, Jumping Spiders, Horned Frogs, Molochs, Horned Lizards, Chuckwallas, Gila Monsters, Vine Snakes, Oviraptors, Bitterns, Spoonbills, Abelosaurs, Echidnas, Oppossums, Tarsiers, Armadillos, Babirusas, Beaked Whales and so on and so forth. ** Heck, she was just recently [[CutenessProximity reduced to a squeeing idiot]] in front of the Tawny Frogmouths at the Frankin Park Zoo. Can you blame her? The bird looks like a living Muppet! [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TawnyFrogmouthEatingMouse.JPG Observe!]] * Pretty much anything with large/prominent eyes triggers this troper's "awww, cute!" response, regardless of what the rest of it looks like. * Baby vultures. Dey are ickle cute scavenger pwedators, yes dey ''are''! * This troper's favorite animal for about five years was the pangolin (due to its page in a friend's "Wildlife Fact-File binder). Scaled (razor-sharp ones to boot) mammals? What could be cooler? * This troper finds bats and possums to be utterly adorable. ** Well, they are. *** Agreed. **** Unless they play dead in the dark and they look like they're snarling at you with their razor-sharp fangs and you and your flashlight are at the perfect angle to 'admire' [[MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily their teeth]]... But when they're right-side up and scurrying around on the fence? [[Tropers/PyroSkittle ADORABLE!!]] ** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV_1czPCwwc To all who dare disagree about bats being cute...]] *** I fail to see how the "ugly" part fits at all when it comes to pteropodidae and most other bats really. * This troper thinks that many cephalopods, especially squids and octopuses, are quite adorable. ** More like ''cuddle''fish, amirite? ** Octopodes are at their cutest when attempting to hide. There's something adorable about a section of sand or coral that is watching you nervously. *** And don't forget ''baby'' octopodes! They're like little bug-eyed multi-colored grains of rice floating around. *** Giant {{Squee}} in 3... 2... [[http://babyanimalz.com/community/sites/default/files/images/babyoctopus.jpg 1...]] ** What about nautiluses? [[http://dandeliondiadem.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/nautilus.jpg Awwwwww]]. * This troper finds ravens, squid, and ADULT vultures (their default expressions are hilarious) cute, but thinks that possums look like furred lizards (its the teeth. too many, and too homogeneous. And the jaws open much too wide). Basically, the smarter an animal is, the cuter I find it, regardless of its appearance. Rabbits are boring,

raccoons are awesome. ** This Troper, while at the zoo with her mom, made a comment about how some vultures kinda resemble {{Dr. Seuss}} characters, with their funny shaped head and that tuft around their neck. * This troper fell in love with snakes and all things reptile earlier this year. Have you ever seen a snake try and eat anything bigger than its head? Its face is frozen in a 8D expression. ADORABLE. Also, lizards are living muppets. ** Baby snakes are ridiculously cute. Also, this troper knows someone who has a boa with an exclamation point shaped mark on her head, which is just plain awesome. *** Did that person name the boa [[MetalGear David]]? * Aye-ayes. Especially after the pair in this lurker's local zoo had a baby. D'awww... ** [[Tropers/KillerClowns this troper]] agrees. Cracked may have described them as "[[http://www.cracked.com/article/125_13-realanimals-lifted-directly-out-your-nightmares_p2the rat that ate all the crystal meth]]," but it's kinda cute in a crazy sorta way. *** For [[{{Tropers/ayeayes}} this troper]], who loves aye-ayes so much she named her ''user handle'' after them, Cracked's comment about aye-ayes was the one thing that [[BerserkButton really set her off]]. She loves the site and can handle them making fun of some of her favorite movies, bands, sites, fandoms, etc, but once they made a comment about how "Just because they're endangered, we're supposed to care"..... * This troper thinks baby snapping turtles are cute. Grown up snapping turtles aren't so cute, but they're still awesome. * This troper hates all spiders except for jumping spiders. They're rather cute and try to keep their distance, making them much more bearable. ** It's those big, buggie eyes. *** Six of them, yet! *** [[http://www.ski.org/Vision/Eyepage/Images/jumping_spiderB.jpg Awww]]... *** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D92AUXhYZ0M And their mating ceremony involves impersonating a backfiring motorcycle]]. *** [[http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq36/SecretTacoNinja/huzzah.jpg Huzzah for Jumping Spiders!]] * This particular troper finds everything that makes cute noises adorable; be it dog, hyena or a very, very peed-off lion cub. * Trumpetfishes are adorable. Also, manta rays. And hermit crabs. * Everyone else in [[Tropers/GwenStacyWannabe this troper's]] zoology class finds [[http://www.kidsbiology.com/library/image.php?src=/images/repository/ Chironectesminimus1155994955.jpg&width=300&height=400 water possums]] hideous. But I kinda want one. ** Maybe it's just because that's not the best picture of a Yapok. In ''The Life Of Mammals'', there's footage of a water possum swimming and hunting. My God, the little hands held out and ready to grab fish. * This particular troper seems to have a really indiscriminate love for lesser animals, with the only exceptions apparently being hairless

cats, the more hideous breeds of dogs, and just about every parasitic organism ever to exist in the history of the world.. His favorites in no particular order are: Reptiles altogether, spiders other than the explicitly deadly ones and the [[BodyHorror necrosis inducing ones]], especially likes jumping spiders, finds baboons to be rather bad ass, considers rays and skates the best form of marine life ever, and practically idolizes ants and bees. * Jumping spiders are probably one of my favourite animals and I like hermit crabs, eels, baby reptiles, including velociraptors of all things and tadpoles. * Tasmanian Devils. Adorable, but [[http://www.redorbit.com/modules/reflib/article_images/42_ac79fe347c2 c43c183e6d915b4922091.jpg THEY WILL GNAW YOUR FACE OFF]]. * Go check out the listing of the Humboldt squid on the NightmareFuel: Animals page. [[{{Tropers/Noaqiyeum}} This troper]] is the one who added it. Far from being scared of it, he thinks they are ''awesome'' - and yes, he lives in their territory. * It biology class, anything that makes my classmates go 'eww', makes [[Tropers/MeravGirl me]] go 'awww'. * [[http://www.blogcdn.com/www.divester.com/media/2006/10/ecard_blobfish .jpg The blobfish]]. It looks like a half-melted [[{{Earthbound}} Mr. Saturn]]. ** Sorry to disappoint you, but it actually normally looks [[http://www.bogleech.com/nature/abyss-blob2.jpg like]] [[http://www.bogleech.com/nature/abyss-blob3.jpg this]]. Much like a jellyfish, its body is only slightly less dense than water, and it normally lives under extreme pressure in the ocean abyss, so when it was brought out of the water it basically collapsed in on itself, resulting in the image of a comical puddle of flesh. *** Still cute. Look at that big ol' mouth! * Another one who coos over reptiles, birds of prey, and assorted prehistoric reptilians. * This troper firmly believes the [[http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pAFSJewrm8E star-nosed mole]] to be the most ugly-cute rodent imaginable. He also finds slugs and snails oddly adorable; its the way they just wander about, waving their little tentacles, and how they retract them back in so fast. Snakes are pretty cute too, with their little black eyes and curious wavering. And you can't forget the inexplicably shy [[http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oJvq_-Q9yWM&feature=channel coconut crab!]] ** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihLQN9AfXa4&feature=channel Coconut Crab]] approaches! Command? * This troper could never, ever, ''ever'' buy a lobster from the tank at the grocery store and take it home to ''eat'' it. Just look at those precious black beedy eyes! How can you want to eat ''that''? ** This lurker's brother bought one. [[spoiler:Percy now inhabits the fish tank in the study. He likes tuna pieces]]. ** This troper used to cry for hours whenever seeing lobster tanks in supermarkets or grocery stores :( * Quite a LOT of animals, such as the [[http://www.giant-

salamander.com/UploadFiles/2006112113343984.jpg Japanese Giant Salamander]] and the [[http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pAFSJewrm8E StarNosed Mole]]. ** I like Star-Nosed Moles for the song "[[TheFrantics Brown Car]]" ([[CreepyMonotone I go around town, in a brown car, its brown]].) * This troper is completely terrified of snakes, but would like to mention that hognose snakes are adorable when their noses itch and they're rubbing their face on the wall to scratch it. They still creep her out, but in a cute sort of way. * Mole rats. ** The naked mole rat exhibit is this troper's favorite at the zoo. They're hideously ugly, yet inexplicably adorable. * Elephants. Sure, they're adorable, but they're also huge, hulking grey things. * [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c81bcjyfn6U Honey Badgers]]. Possibly the most bloody-minded animal on the face of the planet. Even lions and hyenas avoid the little bastards, and they snarl constantly. Fortunately, they live on the opposite side of the planet from this troper, and she is free to squeal and clap her hands in delight at the sight of their sheer, fuzzy badassitude without fear of provoking snarling, claw-toothy badger retribution. * [[MemeticMutation I]] ''love'' [[{{Pokemon}} axolotls!]] ** A fellow Axolotl lover then. I want to find a Neotonic one, but my parents wont let me get one anyway. They find the thing disgusting. ** [[CutenessProximity Me too is an Axolotl lover]]. ** [[HarveyBirdman Ha ha!]] [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean Woopers]]. ** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnTyLKbhyW4&feature=related Pure evidence of axolotl adorability]]. * Deep down, one way or another, ''everything'' is cute. * * This troper has always had a special place in her heart for velociraptors and sharks. She squeals whenever the velociraptors in JurassicPark make those cute little noises. Also, have you ever looked at a flee under a microscope? They're actually kinda cute. ** Agreed on the raptors. ^_^ * This troper saw [[http://chasenoface.blogspot.com/ the faceless cat]] on NightmareFuel and just had to put it here. ** This is [[UglyCute Ugly]] ''[[UglyCute Cute]]'' you're putting it under; I'm afraid you've got the wrong trope. The correct trope would be Ugly ''Adorable'', it just doesn't exist. ** It's kind of odd, because I found her to be pretty disturbing at first, but the more pictures of her just engaging in normal kitty behavior I saw, the more cute and woobie-ish she became. * This troper finds tarantulas kind of cute with all those eyes and the fuzzy fur on them, and has a bit of a soft spot for wasps, believe it or not. This troper also happens to have a fear of wasps. I'm very conflicted... * I don't think Retro Studios intended the reaction to seeing the swarms of itty-bitty, newly hatched Metroids in ''{{Metroid}} Prime 2'' to be a fangirlish squee. Sure, the NightmareFuel kicks in once one of them wanders over to some Phazon, but... they're so ''tiny!'' And their "fangs" are just little stubby tentacles! And the squeaking! Eeeee!

** And from the same troper: alligators are absolutely the cutest reptiles. Snakes are very close. * This troper once saw a documentary about a man who hand-raised hyena cubs, and now thinks that hyenas are absolutely adorable. * [[http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/hideously_cute_baby_aard vark_b.html Baby aardvarks]]. * [[http://week.divebums.com/2006/Jul312006/sarcastic_fringehead_scott-mcgee.jpg Sarcastic Fringeheads]]. They have faces that vaguely resemble [[StarWars Admiral Ackbar]], tend to hide in barrels, tubes, or small caves and poke their heads out, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLiRv69cfnQ have a ridiculously muppety-looking way of fighting with each other]]. * Most baby birds are hideously ugly, with gigantic, oversized beaks, no feathers or pinfeathers, bulging eyes, etc. Yet for some reason I still find most of them cute on some level. Obviously, certain baby birds (ducks, chickens, etc.) are cute right from the start. Observe: [[http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/imgs/ibsourcrp.jpg Baby cockatiel]]. * This troper always found rollie-pollies -er, [[http://www.highlightskids.com/Science/Stories/images/SS0498_bugsthat arent1.jpg Pill Bugs]] to be particularly adorable, and tried to create a "Rollie Pollie Hotel" in her front steps as a child. * Wait a moment-you mean those animals aren't naturally considered cute? * [[http://www.readersdigest.com.ph/rd/rdhtml/en/magazine/mag_content.js p?cid=2629 Reader's Digest is stupid]]. That dog is the cutest thing ever! Like a little tame hyena! * [[{{Tropers/SCAL37}} This troper]] happens to find pretty much all amphibians cute. Including [[http://www.wildherps.com/images/herps/standard/017612_caecilian.jpg caecilians]]. Oh, he also has a ''[[{{Doorstopper}} humongous]]'' book called ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Animal]]'', and thinks the cutest thing in there is a close-up of a jumping spider. And he thinks anything with tentacles is cute. especially [[CthulhuMythos Elder]] [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7c/Barloweoldone.jp g/200px-Barloweoldone.jpg Things]] and molluscs. Oh, and he also wants a tapeworm. It'd be easy to look after. * [[Tropers/AXavierB My]] chihuahua is constantly described by others as looking like a mangy rat. I wouldn't have him any other way. * [[{{Tropers/Nomic}} This troper]] has a soft spot for all kinds of reptiles an amphibians. He also finds Cephalopods (especially nautiluses and cuttlefish) as well as crabs and lobsters adorable. ** It helps that the cuttlefish's very ''name'' [[{{Mondegreen}} sounds sort of like]] "Cuddle fish". * This troper thinks that Egyptian hairless cats, tarantulas, cobras and Hatchet fish are cute. * This troper thinks Octopi and Sharks are just adorable! * Pigs. Especially piglets, but any age. They're just SO ADORABLY UGLY. ;A; * [[OwlBeDamned Owls]]. So expressive, so fluffy. This troper likes

crows as well, but likes grackles better. Must be their eyes and iridescent feathers. ** This editor just had a small flock of Grackles visit her backyard - three fluffy fledglings with over-sized "training wheel" flight feathers and their mom, who was teaching them how to forage for snails. This crossed from Unconventionally Cute right into Straight-Up Adorable. * This troper is a female Radiohead fan who finds Thom Yorke insanely adorable, as do all other female Radiohead fans she knows. ** And this Radiohead-enjoying troper was waiting for him to show up on this list. XD * The [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/babbletrish/3613095692 Ocean Pout]]. It looks almost ''exactly'' like the eponymous character in ''The Incredible Mr. Limpet'' (post-fishy transformation, of course). * [[Tropers/BigBlue This Troper]] thinks that [[UncannyValley the puppet in the video for Interpol's "Evil"]] is adorable. He's like a muppet and a human had a baby! * For [[Tropers/LeighSabio This Troper]] baby snakes. Especially ball pythons. That is all. * This Troper really likes animals with fangs. It doesn't matter what the rest of it looks like, as long as it has fangs, It's adorable! * A former Hallmate to this troper would often visit tarantula forums, watch videos of tarantula bite symptoms, and even sent out an email on April Fool's Day stating she had lost her tarantula, "George" in the dorms, and instructed people to safely return him to her. We all dismissed it as fake until we discovered she actually HAD tarantualas hidden in her closet closer to the end of the year. She even named on after our R.A. Hey- after that one dies she promises to name the next one after me! * Babies under 5 or 6 months old tend to have strange shaped heads, bulbous eyes, and patchy, tufty hair, as well as habits of farting, throwing up and wailing like an air raid siren at any given moment... but then they smile at you or fall asleep in your arms and suddenly you never want to put them down. ** This troper for whatever reason loves what he terms the "baby mohawk" - when their hair is mostly grown in, but only in the the center of the top of the head. * Oddly enough, Lobsters. Whenever this troper goes to a Red Lobster, he can't help but find them outright {{Woobie}}-esque. * For this Troper, it's bulldogs, kiwis, moles, and toads, seeing as bulldogs are usually seen as flabby and ugly, her mother thinks that kiwis are the ugliest creature to grace this Earth, moles are seen as Godless pests, and toads (not frogs) are always associated with warts. D'aaaaaaaaaw! * This editor finds {{Salad Fingers}} quite endearing, and doesn't see why so many people are freaked out about him. ** Likewise; this troper finds him to be quite the woobie, mainly ''because'' he's so horrifyingly out of touch with reality that he's liable to unintentionally kill his friends. * [[{{Pokemon}} BRE]][[http://www.legendarypokemon.net/images/dp_artwork/286.png LOOM!]] On contrast, I think

[[http://wiki.pokeland.net/images/4/45/Shroomish.png Shroomish]] is plain hideous. * This troper finds bats, rats, gargoyles, and "scary" Halloween Decorations cute. Oh, and Daddy Long Legs. And Slugs. And most bugs, except for centipedes and silverfish. ** [[{{Tropers/Akiba}} This troper]] loves house centipedes... They eat the bugs I don't like. * On the human front, this troper has an enormous girlcrush on Timothy Spall. Best known to most people as [[HarryPotter Wormtail]], [[SweeneyTodd Beadle Bamford]], and "that creepy guy from ''{{Enchanted}}''". It helps that he actually has a pleasant, witty response to being perpetually cast as the creepy guy. And on the nonhuman front, I find Parktown prawns adorable and [[Main/DistrictNine certain other prawns]] even more so. Like, majorly. ** Holy moly, it's not just me? Thank god, I was getting worried. * The parasitic isopod called the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Tongue Eating Louse]] is like a BodyHorror worthy of HPLovecraft, but...dangit, look at [[http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/09/FishParasite.jpg that face!]] It's like a little hand puppet on the tongue. * The [[http://www.frogfish.ch/index.html Frogfish]], or Anglerfish in Australia, is a medium-sized, fairly warty fish that comes in several varieties, such as the Hairy Frogfish, and use a lure on their heads to attract prey, which they then swallow in one gulp. So what's so cute about them? They don't swim, they WALK. On adorable stubby finlegs. And when a pair of them mate, the male, which is much smaller than the female, starts following her around everywhere. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcN4nfcletU The effect is so charming]] I fell in love at first sight. * [[{{Tropers/Tails}} This Troper]] remembers watching a movie in biology class, which included a fruit eating piranha snacking on a berry. The class' "Aww" was very noticeable. * This troper thinks newborn babies of most species (including human) are UglyCute. Many of them become conventionally cute after a few days or weeks, but let's face it, most creatures come into this world as ugly little things. And most people still find them adorable because, well, they're ''babies''. ** This troper has a theory that the human tendency to find small, wrinkly, squashed-looking creatures adorable is the offshoot of a necessary survival instinct that gave our ancestors the incentive to take care of their newborns despite the helplessness, demandingness, and lack of conventional attractiveness of very new babies. ** It's kinda weird that [[{{Tropers/Kuzlalala}} This Troper]]'s friends find newborn babies ugly. Babies are ''always'' cute before they're one year old. * This troper has a...[[NightmareFetishist thing]]...for anything with duplication-based physical deformities. Extra heads, tails, limbs, you name it. ** I know, right? Esspecially [[http://www.watoday.com.au/wanews/twofaced-kitten-born-in-perth-20081120-6cp7.html Two-headed kittens]]

* This troper realizes that the general opinion about the bosses in WarioLand 4 is that they are [[NightmareFuel nightmarish and hideous]], but he thinks they are adorable. How can [[MixandMatchCritters Catbat]] and [[ManEatingPlant Cractus]] not be cute? * [[http://candidchatter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/human_infant_newbor n_baby.jpg Newborn babies]]. Someone had to say it... Stop looking at [[Tropers/TacoNinja this one]] like that! * Hides* ** Also, [[Tropers/TacoNinja this one]] thinks that [[http://canalphotos.org/6-2_Canal_weevils_6_DxO_PS_2_rz.jpg weevils]], [[http://cute-n-tiny.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/whitewinged-vampire-bats-dan-riskin.jpg bats of all types]], [[http://wedonetwork.co.uk/wedotech/wpcontent/uploads/2009/09/4plvn5x.jpg Abe]] and most creatures [[http://uglyoverload.blogspot.com/ here]] are all adorable. *** ALSO also, minus the first two, all creatures in [[http://www.cracked.com/article/125_13-real-animals-lifted-directlyout-your-nightmares_p1 this list]] are adorable (especially that Giraffe Weevil). * [[Tropers/SacredSturgeon This Troper]] has just finished reading through the HighOctaneNightmareFuel page for animals. The number of "[[{{Squee}} Awww]]"s the page got out of him greatly outnumbered the number of "[[{{Squick}} Ack!]]"s. How anyone could not like angler fish and coconut crabs and spiders is beyond me. * [[Tropers/FrodoGoofballCoTV ThisTroper]] finds [[http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/cnhc/potm-jul07.html Gharials]] to be one of the cutest animals on earth. [[http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/02mexico/logs/oct13/media /isopod.html Also Isopods]]. * Baby [[{{Primeval}} future predators]]. Not the grown up ones, just the babies. Awww. * You know what? Anemones. They're cute. There's just something very endearing about the way they retract when you poke them. * [[Tropers/SabreJustice This troper]] has a pet [[AustralianWildlife Eastern Bearded Dragon]], due to a girl I know also having such a lizard as a pet ([[YourTomcatIsPregnant named Boris]]). She called my lizard 'gorgeous'. And yes, he is adorable and likes watching TV, especially {{Godzilla}}. I'm a cat person, but I think Sandstorm here counts as an honourary cat. * Hugely so for tyranids from Warhammer 40k, especially the little ones like hormagaunts. Playing dawn of war 2 and building immense hordes of befanged ravenous monstrosities that are about the size of a dog and which run in a sort of loping waddle and leap over obstacles is utterly adorable. Especially when the entire screen is filled with them swarming across the map. The fact that they will inevitably strip the entire planet of all life and useful materials of any kind with months is entirely beside the point. ''Who's''aicklechitinousallconsumingabomina''shun?'' You are! ** If the previous edition fluff is anything to go by none of the included Tyranids are dog sized. They start at about the size of a fully grown man and only get bigger, and by that I mean Gaunts are

about 6', warriors about 10-12' and those are the swarming types. Rippers would make ideal pets if they were anything more than a mobile mouth, but the average person could likely use most tyranids as a mount rather than a pet. This hasn't stopped me painting my Carnifex bright pastel pink and charging it into tanks for the sake of it though, Tyranids are about as cute as galaxy devouring horrors get (though Cthulhu and co. are a close second.) * [[http://www.primusdatabase.com/index.php?title=Hu%27Szsersvn Hu'Szsersvn]] probably counts. She's an ugly insectoid from Champions Online that loves to touch people's faces. Her nickname? ''Hugs''. * This editor finds the Direhorses in ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' the cutest creatures on Pandora. It's probably due to the scene where one of them laps up honey from a flower. That ''face!'' * Praying mantises. [[http://directionsforpest.deviantart.com/art/praying-mantis-22147353 They're ADORABLE]]. * [[{{Tropers/Stealthyboy}} This Troper]] finds human embryos so [[{{Squee}} incredibly]] [[http://emptysuit.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/embryo7.jpg CUTE!]] Also, [[http://www.thewildones.org/Gifs/manatee.gif manatees]] are just so incredibly lovably dumb [[CutenessProximity you just wanna give them a big shnuglewuggleyboo!]] * The trappers from EternalDarkness. * [[http://thehumanmarvels.com/?p=33 Julia Pastrana]], mostly due to her status as a real-life {{Woobie}}. * [[http://www.raymondhuber.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/beeface.jpg Bees]], and the baby Skedar from PerfectDark. This troper's girlfriend has a soft spot for [[http://www.amphibiainfo.com/gallery/anura/microhylidae/breviceps/ads persus/breviceps_adspersus_ebinuma_2.jpg Breviceps]] and [[http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/cute%20little%20Bipes,%20our %20ancestor.jpg amphisbaenians]]. * I don't find any animal ugly, but I simply love pterosaurs. Pteranodon itself is just adorable, [[http://pterosaurnet.blogspot.com/2010/02/pot-bellied-pteranodon.html specially when it was recently discovered its belly was pot shaped]] * Going off the {{Eversion}} example, this troper is probably one of the few who finds X-8 things cute. * For this troper: Baby goats. Though they may not count as ugly to most. * Is it just me, or are anteaters adorable? * This troper thinks many "gross" creatures are adorable (or beautiful...in their own way). Two that come to mind are: little baby snakes, or small snakes (larger snakes aren't as adorable because their just too big) and bats (they look like little furballs between their wings)! Awwww..... * Opossums, guys, opossums! I mean, wookit the widdle itty bitty babies! [[http://www.aaanimalcontrol.com/gallery/opossum020.jpg]] [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Jmv4oU5K4LM/Sj8ZrOOs5lI/AAAAAAAAAlw/E9IhPR 3tSSs/s400/ugly-possum.jpg]] * Baby owls. Seriously, go to [[http://www.ustream.tv/theowlbox Molly the Owl's Ustream feed]] and see how many people {{Squee}} over how

cute the little owlets are. At the time of writing, all her owlets are a week old or younger and don't look anywhere near conventionally cute, but the channel is regularly breaking 20,000 viewers a day. ** And now it is over. The total views have broken 14 million, and we're all gonna miss the fluffballs. * [[http://www.secsportsfan.com/images/georgia-bulldog-mascot-uga.jpg Bulldogs]]. ** And bulldog puppies. Hairless, beady-eyed, wrinkly masses of ''[[http://www.asnclassifieds.com/images/13648_891e05a32D1e412D4b4f2Db ed72Db4ab199dbd58Bullie.jpg adorable]]''. * Apparently, pleco fish are ugly, but I thought that they are cute, even those that grow to massive size. * I know most of the examples on here are animals, but I know one human example. She goes to my school. Her upper lip is torn, so it looks like she has a CatSmile. She is missing one of her teeth and needs braces. She has sort of a plump, lopsided nose. She is also one of the nicest girls I will ever know in my life, and by far one of the prettiest in my book which proves my point: Ugly+Nice=Pretty. * When this troper was a kid, she was fascinated by the two-headed snake at the zoo. I've later learned that two-headed snakes are more common than I'd previously thought, and that their life expectancy is short. I now feel sorry for them. * Is this troper the only troper around who finds the {{Scribblenauts}} version of Nuckelavees rather...cute? * This troper [[ChildHater finds most real kids obnoxious]], yet finds many of the kids in movies who [[CreepyChild are supposed to be scary]] to instead be adorable. Hmm... * Geckos and newborn crocodiles are scaly, have a mouthfull of tiny sharp teeth, big eyes, and make the cutest sounds in the world. * This troper considers uromastyx lizards (seriously, google them and try not to squee) to be the most pathetic, soft, stupid, clumsy bundles of scaly adorableness. Snakes and turtles have most of the same charm. Tarantulas too, minus the "soft and scaly" part. * [[SuperMarioBros Goomba]]. ** Especially the partners from the VideoGame/PaperMario games! ** You know, for villianous, sharp clawed/toothed little turtledragons, this troper always found the [[SuperMarioBros3 Koopalings]] kind of cute. * Most of the animals (and plants) featured in [[http://endangeredugly.blogspot.com/search/ this blog]] are UglyCute. * [[{{Tropers.Takwin}} This troper]] finds [[InvaderZim Zim]] adorable in a hideous, insectoid, psychotic way. I mean, just [[http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/1400000/Zim-invader-zim1404611-1024-768.jpg look at those big red eyes]]! * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Snake Corn Snakes]]. And they come in lots of pretty colors! * Rats! Fuzzy wuzzy rats with their big noses, cute little hands and love for tickles! Recently, this troper has begun to find the [[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Head_of_a_pacific_Viperfish_4 037.jpg viperfish]] cute. It must be those big eyes and snaggletooth smile. * [[http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=URYQV6rLFMU Sphynx cats]] (except

for the ones that are ugly ''ugly''.) * I actually think that many portrayals of TheGreys fall into this. * I feel this way about those Ball Jointed Dolls. Yes, they're [[CreepyDoll terrifying]], yes, they fall right into UncannyValley, yes, [[strike: some]] most of them look downright demonic, but at the same time....they have a sort of unexplainable charm to them. * Whale sharks! I wanna grab a fin and take a ride. * How the hell nobody has talked about sloths yet? They are the most adorable thing ever. Spending the day sleeping, with an eternal smile in it's faces... d'awww. Just look at [[http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7024QKdLrXE/TIG5v16FaxI/AAAAAAAAQkc/M5JjAq NDwYc/s400/bicho-preguica-filhote.jpg it]] <3 ** Absolutely seconded. This troper thinks baby sloths are just about the cutest animals in the entire world. * Mudskippers! They look like little muppets, and something about a fish hopping around the beach on its front fins always makes me smile. * Anything with tendrils around its face is cute to this troper: catfish, Asian-style dragons, star-nosed moles, Cthulhu, [[{{Metalocalypse}} Toki Wartooth]]... (Although given that Toki's an otherwise fairly ordinary looking 20-something year old man with washboard abs, he couldn't really be considered ''Ugly'' Cute.) * This troper really thinks scorpions are kind of cute. If you get past that stinger tail, they're pretty nice. ** Female scorpions' habit of carrying their babies around on their backs is also rather endearing. * Pretty much anything with a long snout, big eyes and CuteLittleFangs is enough to make this troper melt. Examples: Scrat from IceAge, Salty from AlphaAndOmega. * [[{{Tropers.Chukwa}} This Troper]] has a [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean fo]][[ButYouScrewOneGoat nd]][[CrossesTheLineTwice ne]][[NightmareFetishist ss]] for reptiles. Except for turtles. * In school I used to know a kid with a pet hamster that was very old, blind and had lost all his fur. He looked like a little naked mole rat, but I thought he was really cute. Hairless animals that would normally have fur are generally very UglyCute. My own hamster might count, as he is old, has lots of bald patches and has several large and very noticeable warts (confirmed benign, don't worry) that are scarred from him scratching them, making them look much worse than they are. I nickname him the Zombie Hamster, and he is in my opinion the most adorable creature in the world. Of course, since these two examples are still [[RidiculouslyCuteCritter hamsters]], they might not really count. * This troper absolutely EXPLODED squeeing at a baby corn snake at a pet store. * [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Hypsibiusdujardin i.jpg Tardigrades!]] They're microscopic, sure, but you can't deny they resemble [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Appa]] in FunSize mode! ** Tardigrade are famous for two things: Being the poster child for real life NighInvulnerability, and [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JDGw005M2eE/SIDLx0AjBnI/AAAAAAAAAm8/ebF6V3 7tT4w/s1600-h/tardigrade.jpg looking like an eight-legged gummi

bear]]. * The World's Ugliest Dog Contest. * Hairless cats and dogs, [[{{YMMV}} at least to some people]]. * Professional wrestler MickFoley, both when he plays a face, and in real life. He's so good at this, he managed to land a super hot wife, and the nickname "The Human Muppet." He's like a cuddly teddybear, that can ''kick anyone's ass.'' * Bats, turtles, pigs, toads, seahorses, poliwogs, baby alligators, inchworms... * Boston Terriers are an entire breed of this, but none more so than the one and only [[http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/11/15/derpderp-derp-dog/ Derpy Dawg]]. * [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LbccUVbSRd8/SQ9etkaCfpI/AAAAAAAACr0/AFaeZG sxPzM/s400/Solenodon+2.jpg The Solenodons of Cuba and Hispanolia]]. Did we mention it's [[KillerRabbit venomous?]] * The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_isopod Giant Isopod]] definitely qualifies. It is strangely cute. ** If you go deep enough into the ocean, you'll find that pretty much everything is either this or NightmareFuel (Or [[YourMileageMayVary both]]). Looks won't get you far down in the deeps. * [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Ursus_thibetanus_ 3_%28Wroclaw_zoo%29.JPG Crapbear, the World's Crappiest Bear]]. * [[http://chasenoface.blogspot.com/ Chase No-Face]]: a cat who lost her face in a car accident, but who still manages to be strangely adorable. ** Ugly cute? More like '''''[[HighOctaneNightmareFuel TERRIFYING]]''''' cute. * Bats anyone? There so sweet. ** [[{{Squee}} Especially the babies]]. *** Correction: ''fruit'' bats are Just Plain Cute. ''insect-eating'' bats, on the other hand, [[http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4538303384_2564975e57.jpg are]] [[http://www.orlando-bat.com/bats/evening-bat.jpg more]] [[http://www.caymanwildlife.org/images/pressimages/w-Mollossusportrait.jpg this]] [[http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/medialive/photos/000/194/cache/rarest-rare-wild-animals-florida-bonnetedbat_19437_600x450.jpg trope]]. [[http://s3.hubimg.com/u/1238358_f520.jpg Vampire bats qualify too]]. *** [[http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kws1lkh3zC1qzxzwwo1_500.jpg BRUSHIE BRUSHIE BRUSHIE]] * Pacific Spiny Lumpsuckers. ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvxwkeAIZR8 PACIFIC SPINY LUMPSUCKERS]].'' * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sojourner_%28rover%29 Sojourner]], the not-so-cute little robot rover that landed on and explored Mars. * Mexican Hairless Dogs, aka Xoloizcuintles. Reknown for being one of the ugliest races of dogs in the earth. Also reknown for being ridiculously loyal and good natured. And for, sometimes, naturally growing what amounts to a ''little doggie mokawk'' on its otherwise hairless head.

* Hyenas. They're so cute that they think it's funny! * Ranchu goldfish. adorable! * Ocean sunfish. They're lumpy and grey, huge enough to be terrifying, and have that perpetual fishy gaze going on... but they're so adorably derpy, not to mention rather friendly for fish. * [[Tropers/{{Twentington}} This troper's]] aunt used to work for General Motors. She described the Pontiac Aztek as being "so ugly that it's cute". * While he isn't ugly as much as he is just a faceless blob with a disturbing mask, I find [[BlazBlue Arakune]] to be [[NightmareFetishist just plain adorable]]. * Believe it or not, this trope doesn't just apply to animals for [[@/SabresEdge this troper]]. Sure, it's easy to have military nerd!lust for something sleek and sexy like an [[CoolPlane F-14, F-15, or (of course) F-22]], and it's possible to qualify a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Tejas small training jet like the HAL Tejas]] as MoeMoe. But for something slow and stubby and ugly like the A-6 or A-7? UglyCute is the only way to describe them, because ''dammit they deserve the same love that the cool fighters get.'' (Not surprisingly the [[MoeAnthropomorphism gijinka]] artists disagree.) * I love aye-ayes. And axolotls. And platypi. And tarsiers. And naked mole rats. YMMV on the last one, however. Star-nosed moles are just plain hideous however. * I think that Seviper is the cutest pokemon ever, but nobody agrees with me. D: * A lot of people, even quite a few non-fans, would agree that musician Sonny Moore AKA Skrillex is completely adorable. Despite being short, stumpy, with bad skin, scraggly hair and a big nose, he's got a certain moe quality to him that makes him a totally cutie pie. (The big deer eyes help.) * Many around me shy away from pugs, chinchillas, chihuahuas; any ''slightly'' ugly animal you can name that belongs in the category. I, however, flock to these types of animals. To me, they are downright '''adorable'''! My family even has two chihuahuas now, and I'm considering buying a chinchilla. Give me an animal you consider to be unbearably disgusting to stare at? I'll be cuddling it within a matter of minutes. * Chinchillas. Aren't they just the cutest rodents ever? [[http://media.photobucket.com/image/chinchilla/lei_chick7/151.jpg?o=6 SO CUTE!]] * Rollie Polies. Seriously, Rollie Pollies. ** Pillbugs are just plain cute. The fact that they're completely harmless to humans makes them even more so. ** You like pillbugs too? So do I! I love those tiny bugs that are harmless and that you can have crawl across your hand, they're amazingly cute! * Sea cows, known officially as sirenia, are slow moving aquatic mammals with big lips and tiny eyes, and [[http://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=977&bih= 493&q=sea+cow totally adorable]]. * To This Troper, SHARKS. Google image "Pelagic Thresher Sharks". Dawwww..... those wide eyes that just cry out "Wub me pweeze".....

Dawww..... So kyuuuuuuttttttttttteee!!!! :3 * Sea urchins. They don't look like much, but watching them move their spines around has an almost hypnotic effect. ---Gah! That's the most hideous trope I've ever seen! Er, can I [[UglyCute go back and see it again]]? Do, um, do you think it'd let me pet it? ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UglyGuyHotWife TroperTales: UglyGuyHotWife * Inverted but then later played straight by my parents. When they were younger, my father was very handsome while my mother was not ugly but not very attractive either. Later on he lost his good looks and began to gain weight while she started to become handsome. I can only imagine this is what people's reaction would be if they spotted her parents together. * I has been told that this is the case with my boyfriend and I, but I don't see it. The guy? A cuddly bear who'd be really cute if he cleaned up a bit. Me? I work out constantly to maintain my natural hourglass and I've been said to be pretty. * Hopefully, me. Someday. * [[{{Zordauch}} I]] firmly assert that [[http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/kizba/familyportrait.jpg my family]] is a perfect example of this trope, especially since she's been hitting the gym several times a week. When she was five months pregnant with our second child, she bought a pair of jeans in a size she hadn't worn since ''middle'' school! ** Hey, you're not ''that'' bad. Your wife is very pretty, though, agreed. ** I finds you more attractive than your wife. ** Played straight; your wife is definitely HollywoodHomely. ** I thinks you both look creepy, but for you it's mostly how you're smiling in that picture. * My band director has a gorgeous modellesque wife and he's a crabby old fat man. (We band geeks even wrote a song about him entitled "[[StarWars Jabba the Hut]], Rockin' the Beer Gut" so we call his wife Princess Leia. * [[DesertDragon My]] aunt and uncle are a perfect example. She was a fashion model in the 70's and 80's and currently works in cosmetics. He is an overweight factory worker. No idea how that one worked out. ** Did [[TheyFightCrime they fight crime?]] * While her father isn't necessarily ugly or her mother particularly hot or beautiful, I often ask my mom ''why?'' My father, while not really ugly, so to say, on the outside, he's a downright pain-in-theass (emphasis on the ass) madman who likes nothing more than driving his family as up the wall as he is. In the meantime, my mother (despite tainted by her husband's insanity) is calm, patient and kind, often tending to her kids when in need. Unless it directs her

husband's bothering to her; in which her kids are outta luck. ** A similar situation for me. My dad isn't at all nasty, but is hardly ever nice either. Added to this is their quite young age when they were married. The question "Do you two actually like each other?" is [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom burning to be asked]] sometimes. ** Similar here too, dad can get easily annoyed but to a lesser extent that the troper above. * Inversion. I have a handsome uncle who was married to a very unattractive woman. Over time she has revealed herself to not only be unattractive on the outside but on the inside as well, emotionally abusing him and their children. * A former boss of mine at a library mailroom was a short, pudgy, graying, middle-aged man. One day this [[HotRedhead beautiful and stylish redhead]] was in the office; I didn't know her, and I'm sure you can imagine my surprise when the boss introduced her as his wife. She was a whole head taller than him. * I have a white, British friend who worked in Japan for a while and was astounded at the number of ugly "western" men with beautiful Japanese girlfriends. Charisma Man is alive and well. ** [[MeLoveYouLongTime Truth in fiction]], perhaps? I've known a few hideous white men here in the US of A with unbelievably hot Asian girlfriends. ** For what it's worth, I've lived in Taiwan, and one of the most common stereotypes is "the foreigners take the ugly women". Why so? Differing beauty standards. Most Westerners don't mind, or even prefer, women with tans, women who are tall, women who are curvy, etc. Meanwhile, the typical Taiwanese appreciation of which Westerners are beautiful is also different--I am a woman with hazel eyes. I lived my entire life without getting complimented on them in the United States. Constant compliments on them in Taiwan, whereas the blue eyes people get weak-kneed for in the West are often considered simply weird. The Taiwanese also very much value thinness and height in men--so that men who might be described as "gangly" in the West have to beat the girls off with sticks. So in fact, this can end up being a win-win scenario: she can't believe her luck, and he can't believe his luck. Hurray! ** MightyWhitey is probably the reason for this. White skin = foreign, exotic and most of all rich. * My high school is pretty much the embodiment of this trope. Most guys are not particularly attractive, and a massive nose and funny facial hair seem to be quite common among them, and the ones who don't have a frat boy personality are part of some fringe group, usually nerd, emo, or just plain weird. I would personally only call about five guys in the school actually attractive. Despite this, almost all of them have absolutely gorgeous girlfriends. One of the best examples was a drummer in the school's band. He's over 6 feet tall, skinny (but with disproportionately-muscled arms) with horrible acne, freckles, red hair, glasses, bad teeth, and melanoma in colors such as blue and green on the back of his neck, while also being very messed in the head and psychologically abusive to his girlfriend, resulting in an off-on relationship that breaks my heart when I see her go through it. His girlfriend, by chance, was by far the most beautiful girl in the school: Latina, 5'3ish, large breasts, curves, perfect looks. She even

did modeling on the side. ** ''That'' is downright tragic. * I had one of these come into my store regularly, fit the description to the letter. Quite possibly the most inspiring thing I saw that summer. * Given the average levels of hotness of Russian women compared to Russian men, this could almost be called The Russian Trope... ** Come again? This editor had a male Russian classmate who was absolutely ''gorgeous.'' Those eyes, that accent... ** Questioning the judgment here, too. I have a Russian coworker (very, very attractive... and tall... and [[GeekyTurnOn good with code]]) whose (admittedly Ukrainian) wife has just about the "sparkling personality" and a snarky sense of humor but little else obviously in her favor. [[HappilyMarried Good Lord, their cuteness could make you diabetic, though.]] ** Thirding the huh? In fact, being Russian is almost guaranteed to make me want you ''more''. ** Sorry to pile on, but when I was on vacation in the Outer Banks, NC, US, there was a large population of young Russians and Ukranians, probably university students, who worked in the various touristy shops and such. Both the men and the women were absolutely stunning. ** Now getting a fifteen-yard penalty for piling on, but [[Luo ** I am actually Russian and has lived there for most of her life, and just doesn't understand the American fascination with us. Honestly, most of us Russian girls are ''not that hot.'' We're just average women like everyone else. In fact, I've actually once had an American react with surprise upon learning my nationality ("You're Russian? But I thought Russian girls were hot!"). But then again, if your standard for comparison are mail order brides (who ''have'' to be stunning or no one would buy them), I guess I can almost understand the confusion. Also, for what it's worth, I consider the average Russian man to be ''far'' more attractive than the average American man; maybe it has something to do with the fact that the former actually lead active lifestyles instead of sitting on the couch 24/7... ** Russian women are stereotyped as being tall, blonde and [[SensualSlavs passionate]] for some reason. For what it's worth, I'm straight and thinks Russian men can be pretty hot too. * There's me, a short, 5'7, 200 lb. Asian (I'm not supposed to be short and fat, just short), then there's my girlfriend. Yeah. * I bedded a string of hot girls in college despite being a gawky sixfooter with an oversized head and an utterly silly mustache. Equal parts RefugeInAudacity when asking out girls and [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean big pet snake.]] * Three from my family: ** My dad was a ''very'' scrawny, rather geeky-looking guy complete with horn-rim glasses when he married my mom, an adorably fashionable girl; this seems to have reversed since my mom stopped caring about fashion some time in the 80s while my dad had to wear suit & tie every day (his stuff still dominates the closets, 7 years after retirement). ** Dad's youngest brother is quite chunky and rather hirsute. His wife... *ponders* imagine a tall, hot, half-Asian Peggy Bundy (what can I say, her hair has a lot of body).

** Mom's uncle was a farmer, and rather plain-looking; his wife was from a wealthy family and a YamatoNadeshiko. Theirs was an ArrangedMarriage, and she wasn't too pleased that her husband wasn't the eldest son (she got over it - when he passed away at 101 they were married for 60+ years); he was absolutely amazed to have landed such a looker. * This Editor's friend used to work as a model, so it came as a bit of a shock when she began showing up to events with her new boyfriend: a stocky, nerdy looking man who liked to wear overalls. Then he opened his mouth and charmed the entire room in less than a minute. * One of {{Jonn}}'s teachers was a smallish, balding, white-haired Englishman. Eye color and accent aside, his wife could be reasonably mistaken for Julie Andrews. One of his church members is an averagelooking handyman. ''His'' wife is an attractive schoolteacher. * I am chubby, pale, and has poor teeth, yet has a girlfriend/fiance who looks like nothing so much as a real-life version of [[GundamWing Relena Peacecraft]]. Of course, it may not be a full example; I've been told that if I actually worked out some, I'd look like an older Daniel Radcliffe. * I've seen an inversion: one of my professors is a very plain-looking woman, clearly in her mid-forties. Her husband, also a professor, is more or less academic EstrogenBrigadeBait, and his female (and gay male) students all swoon over him. * My parents are an inversion. My father was, at a younger age somewhat Bishonen, but my mother... well, she has the complexion and hair of Michael Jackson, after all the surgery. Thankfully he takes after his father more. * I find hope in the few inversions out there that perhaps it can happen to her as well. ** Same here, although I'm pretty liberal when it comes to hotness. ** [[{{Tropers/Luo}} I am]] quite willing to bet there is some hotness within you that just isn't noticed or appreciated properly. It probably doesn't help, especially since [[{{Tropers/Luo}} I]] am not hot, but he'll hope for the best for you. * Allegedly, my husband (a high school algebra teacher) and I fit this to a T. So much so that numerous students have accused him of Photoshopping his pictures of the two of us. (A bold few have actually commented, "If you two ever have problems..." [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer One of them was female.]] ) * A friend of my family has always been beautiful. And I mean ''model'' beautiful: long blonde hair, statuesque, and basically something straight out of Vogue. Her husband, on the other hand, is the complete opposite: short, portly and likes to wear overalls. Just looking at the two together and you would think that you've stepped into an alternate reality, but once you talk to him it suddenly makes perfect sense. You've never met a wittier, sweeter guy. Like my grandmother likes to say, he could "charm the stripes off a zebra." * [[MarinaDelGrapes My]] husband believes that the trope applies to the couple. I'm notably taller than my husband, and thinner, and I have [[KaleidoscopeEyes Kaleidoscope Eyes]] and what I've been told is a "strikingly beautiful" face. My husband is shorter than the average man (and actually, he's around the height of the average woman and I'm

at the height of the average man). He is considered obese, he has chronic acne scars all over his back, one of his nicknames is Walrus, and he can be sort of a male version of a {{Meganekko}}. He says that everyone is thinking that I'm the attractive one. I think he is too self-conscious about his looks. But then again, I'm too self-conscious about my personality. ** Also, my brother and his wife are a better example of this, to the point of it being lampshaded. There is an age difference of a little over two decades, with the gaunt man as the elder. My sister-in-law is a strong-willed yet nearly classic example of the [[HairOfGold Hair Of Gold]] trope, only mildly subverted in that the sister-in-law was not virginal at the time she met the man who would be her husband. My brother himself ignores the lampshade hangers, considering himself as both a [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy White Haired Pretty Boy]] and the male version of [[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave Grandma What Massive Hotness You Have]]. * My school has had a scarcity of male students over the years, meaning even the most unattractive guy has girls chasing after him. The "hottest" guy in school - according to general opinion - would probably be ignored and left in the corner in the real world. * [[{{Expthka}} I]] have been told (by both the boy in question and others) this is the case with her and her boyfriend. No pictures here, but personally I find myself fairly average and I think he looks like Hilary Swank in 'Boys Don't Cry', which is definitely a good thing, so hey. * My friend mostly dates ugly, abusive idiots, but she is really pretty, even though she doesnt think she is. * An Art History teacher I had said that he was a four and his wife was a ten, and that when they go out he gets looks because his gray hair and his wife's youthful looks make him look like a creep. * [[Tropers/DVBen I]] have tried, without any success, to make himself look more attractive to women. I can only hope now that this trope is played straight for him someday. *sighs* ** I hear you, buddy. I've been bullied about my appearance for as long as I can remember, making me very unconfident, especially around men and constantly worrying about how I look. Fingers crossed that someday I can eventually be an inversion of this trope. And best of luck to you too. * [[{{Tropers/Luo}} I've]] been through a handful of flings and onenight stands with women that nobody he knows ever found attractive (though he himself does) due to his belief that he was the Ugly Guy half of the trope. The reason? His one relationship was with a girl that, until she cheated on him with his best friend and subsequently cheated on -him-, was generally considered to be the girl of every guy's dreams (and some girls, even). It's taken [[{{Tropers/Luo}} me]] better part of three years to be able to come to terms with it, and another three on top of that to realize that I'm not too ugly to date. * My childhood friend and her boyfriend. [[http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=1660058465007&set=t.134354 5914 See here.]] See the girl who's on the swim team and likes America's Next Top Model, Orbit Gum, and Herbal Essences? That's her. See the guy who likes to play video games? That's him. He's not ugly,

just not very attractive. ** My mom and dad too. [[http://www.safeminds.org/about/executiveboard.html Scroll down to see my mom.]] She's OlderThanTheyLook and hasn't aged much since that picture was taken. [[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave She's 52 now...can you believe it?]] (She uses [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbaric_medicine Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy]], and takes multivitamins.) YMMV though, and I [[InformedAttribute always reminded my family]] [[HollywoodHomely of how "ugly" my mom was.]] Really, aside from being a {{Pettanko}} and [[FeminineWomenCanCook not being able to cook]] (Though Dad is a LethalChef, [[TedBaxter but he doesn't know it]], so dinnertime at my house sucks. YMMV, though.) she's not that bad. But I rambled on and on about how [[TooDumbToLive her dad was a "wuss"]] [[SarcasmMode for marrying some ugly bitch like that.]] Her dad, on the other hand, is a bald, fat (okay, HollywoodPudgy), [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking big-nosed]] guy. I couldn't find a picture of him BTW. *** TruthInTelevision (sort of), perhaps? I've heard of [[ButchLesbian butch lesbians]] who resemble Micky Rourke at best and have hot LipstickLesbian girlfriends who resemble AngelinaJolie. * Inverted with the parents of my friend, the dad is [[StupidSexyFlanders tall, rugged]], and has a [[AudioErotica deep, sexy voice]]. However the friend's mother is overweight, homely, and nasally. The troper has seen pictures of them when they were younger, and they looked ''exactly the same as they do now'', so I hope that she's funny at least. ** Would their names be Dan and {{Roseanne}}, by any chance? * This troper has a great inversion. My best friend's brother is SMOKIN'! He's probably one of the most attractive men I've ever seen, and he's also charming, talented, and intelligent. His soon-to-be wife, on the other hand, is not nearly so attractive. She's isn't ugly, but she's about average if she actually puts in effort, which she NEVER does. Seriously, this guy is borderline metrosexual with how well he dresses and does his hair and she just wears jeans and tshirts all the time and never wears makeup and slouches a lot too. She's really awkward and clumsy too and eats candy all the time. Her personality isn't even that great. She's really quiet, and when you talk to her she is blunt to the point of rudeness and never beats around the bush and practically psychologically analyzes you and throws in your face, all the while, not giving a shit. Seriously, the first thing she said to me when I first met her was "I do not like you at all." God, she's not even intelligent. Seriously, he was valedictorian and went to Ivy League. I'm not even sure how they ended up together. ** In the aforementioned girl's defense, the twin of the above Troper would like to mention that this girl, while very odd and eccentric, was being given dirty looks by the above Troper, making her rudeness understandable. Furthermore, not caring about how you look doesn't make you a bad person. Also, both parties of the aforementioned couple are very intelligent. Freakishly so. Both of their IQ's are somewhere around 180, at least. And both of them kept above 4.0's in college. It makes much more sense that two people who are so intelligent that they

are set apart from most people as a whole (as is the case) would end up in a relationship. Not to mention, she is actually talented, knowing 7 languages fluently, never having to study for anything and still making a perfect grade, remembering any and everything you tell her so you won't ever have to repeat yourself, is a great artist, and poet/writer. Also, he has faults too. He can be a real manipulative ass, and she can see through him whenever he decides to play the Magnificent Bastard and calls him out on it. Besides, once you get to know her, she is really nice. She's given up a lot of free time to tutor me for my exams. She's still majorly awkward and devoid of social skills, but in some cases, being a genius really does come with a price. I will admit though, as far as most of society is concerned, they still are a great inversion of this trope, though she's not nearly so awful. I think less attractive or more free-minded girls like her get a bad rep. Sorry for the rant, but bad-mouthing isn't nice and no one deserves to be so horribly disrespected like that, even anonymously. * ANY UGLY RICH ASS DUDE AND HIS TROPHY WIFE. '''''ANY'''''. ---Go back to Main/UglyGuyHotWife, you lucky dog. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UglyGuysHotDaughter * For a male example, [[DesertDragon this troper's]] Computer Science professor is pudgy with thinning gray hair and thick glasses. He said his son would be visiting the class one day and I was like "Ok whatever". I was ''not'' expecting his son to be half-black and '''insanely hot.''' I would have wondered if he was a ChocolateBaby except that they had the same smile. I can only imagine what the professor's wife looks like. * This troper's father is somewhat pudgy with skin filled with alot of acne scars. As result, when this troper's boyfriend met her parents for the first time, said boyfriend was shocked to see that not only that the man he shook hands with is my father, but that I also don't share any resemblance to my father other than my lip fullness and shape. However, I look [[{{IdenticalGrandson}}pretty much identical to my mother]], [[{{IWasQuiteALooker}}who was considered beautiful when she was young.]] ** Also happens to this troper. This ''male'' troper. ** Inverted with this ''female'' troper, who is the spitting image of her quite attractive ''father.'' *** Wouldn't that be [[AvertedTrope averted]]? * This troper has been told various times that she is very pretty and has often had older men hit on her (much to her displeasure). Her dad is an obese, short man who always has food in his beard, is practically bald, has been a smoker since age 13, and has so many scars on him that it's hard to count. People are quite surprised to find out I'm lesbian, because they seem to think I could get any guy I wanted.

* Are you a LipstickLesbian? They tend to be more attractive than [[ButchLesbian their masculine counterpart.]] No offense, and YMMV, though. * There is a boy in my church youth group whose parents and sister are on the lower side of average lookswise (though they're all very nice people!), but somehow the features must've fallen together just the right way on him, because he is amazingly handsome. [[WhatBeautifulEyes And also has really blue eyes.]] * This troper's parents fit the UglyGuyHotWife type (see Troper Tales: Ugly Guy Hot Wife) so my dad and I fit this trope well. He's bald, somewhat fat and has a big nose. (But he is a nice guy. He is involved with [[http://www.facebook.com/#!/ChaseCommunityGiving Chase Community Giving]], averting the trope BeautyEqualsGoodness, plus he's a CoolOldGuy, so I love him anyway. No to [[InsufferableGenius toot my own horn]], but how many troper's dads have [[http://www.amazon.com/Intellectual-Life-British-WorkingClasses/dp/0300098081 written a book]], much less put a ''[[TheBeatles Beatle]]'' on the cover??!!) I took after my mom (thank goodness.) I am an [[TallDarkAndBishoujo elegant]] [[TheChick girly girl]] overlapped with the BrainyBrunette, which means [[NerdsAreSexy I get brains AND beauty!]] Yay! * My former boss looked like a clean-shaven Santa Claus. His wife didn't look much better. He hired two of his kids. His son looked like a younger version of him. His daughter, however: slim, blonde, long legs, maybe not beautiful but really cute in a girl-next-door way. Oh, and she liked to wear fairly revealing clothes (considering they were a staunchly religious family). We had a hard time reconciling that she came from the same gene pool. ---Head back to UglyGuysHotDaughter, because face it Tiger, you just hit the jackpot. <<|TroperTales|>>

Uke * Deliciously [[TheUntwist untwisted]] in this hetero troper's case. [[CosplayOtakuGirl My girlfriend]] is over a head taller than me, has a larger frame, loves to loom over me and pick me up and drag me around, whereas {{Adorkable}} me has curly hair, glasses, and a small build, coupled with my [[CuddleBug love of cuddling and being close]]. However, according to the Seme/Uke quiz, I'm a Romantic Seme, and she's a Flaming Uke. Despite this, and no matter how much of a Seme I try to be, she's one step ahead. To seal the deal, she is also much more [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean ...physical]] than I am. * My YaoiFangirl UnwantedHarem always kept telling me I was an Uke, even If I had never been in a relationship before. I kept rejecting that term and [[TestosteronePoisoning kept telling them I still was a man and had my pride]], [[StraightGay even if I liked other guys]] And tried my best to not act all [[CampGay Camp]] and [[LargeHam FA]][[CodeGeass BU-]][[AmbiguouslyGay -LOUS!]]. And then I got in a relationship with my best friend. [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean After some

months, I discovered they were totally right.]] Cue the Fangirl Squee ** And if you don't know what I mean, I meant that [[TooMuchInformation I take it. In the ass.]] *** *[[YaoiFangirl Squee]]!* [[DidIJustSayThatOutLoud Uh, sorry]]. * [[ThisTroper Me.]] * [[Tropers/NewKidOnTheBlock This troper]] is apparently a het version of this. While I don't currently have a girlfriend, one of my friends says that when I do get one, she'll totally dominate me. * [[Tropers/CalebTheTimeTraveler This Troper]] is far from [[CampGay Camp]], and at times epitomizes the StraightGay standard, but is also, in a word, a bit of a [{{Keet}}. In a few others: [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking I'm nearly exclusively a Bottom, have been known to Crossdress for fun, and listen to Incubus.]] * This troper is kind of embarrassingly {{uke}} -- short-statured, pale, with messy black hair and big blue eyes, extremely emotional, and apparently {{adorkable}}-levels of shy and gentle. Unfortunately I have severe sex-related hangups and am a ''dom''. * The only non uke-ish thing about this troper is that he is 6 foot 3 inches (but I still want [[BeyondtheImpossible a guy taller than me]]) and that I am a total Sadist. * This troper RP's on {{CerberusDailyNews}} as a BiTheWay version of this. Mainly due to the fact that he's a stocky little guy and rather young. * This troper and her (all female) friends assign each other yaoi roles. I ''insist'' I'm seke (halfway between seme and uke), but everyone else swears that I'm an uke. [[LesYay I'm a little worried, because my friend, who is a lesbian, is a seme. And she seems to like me.]] * This troper and my friend have both been 'assigned' uke roles by our YaoiFangirl friend. Can't speak for the other guy, but in my case, it's somewhat true. * [[Tropers/GloriousEggs This Troper]]is a complete uke. Curvy hips, pale skin, scrawny frame, and highly emotional. My YaoiFangirl friends all want me to get with another guy already. * This troper comes across as exactly this trope to strangers- 5'2", under 100 pounds, big eyes, slim hips and shoulders... But this troper is a [[{{Bifauxnen}} girl.]] Every time some YaoiFangirl who doesn't know her says 'he' is such a cute Uke and should go and hook up with [[{{Seme}} Guy X]] because that would be so [[GratuitousJapanese kawaii desu,]] she rolls her eyes and proceeds to [[DroppedABridgetOnHim drop a Bridget on her.]] Also, she's a total {{Seme}}- at least, would be, if she were a guy. * This troper has a friend who alludes to them being a fated pairing of sorts-- which would ultimately lead to disaster, considering this troper is a catcher, seme tendencies be damned. * This Troper is a strange example... I am straight, yet I seem to fit all this criteria of being Uke. One time, my best friend told me to try on her hair clip. After I did so, she said I looked like "the submissive guy in a Yaoi". When I heard the word submissive, I knew she meant this. And well, I thought about it. I am submissive, I'm emotional, I'm passive... As far as my appearance goes, I have long hair and I'm not exactly the manliest person around. I might just be

considered a {{Bishonen}}. I'm also kinda short, and voice out how I'm feeling pretty often. Finally, I'm very awkward, in manner and in motion, so I could also be considered {{Adorkable}}. * This tropette and her best friend are both [[YaoiFangirl yaoi fangirls.]] She has a habit of forcibly dragging me around, jumping on me when I'm not looking, hugging my head, and tickling me, and so several times I've referred to myself as her Uke. ---U-um... Uh... Hi, uh... I'm an {{Uke}}. Aah! Please don't hurt me! PLEASE!

UltimateJobSecurity * Roleplaying Forum example: this troper repeatedly clashed with the admin of an [=RPing=] forum over policy and style, and did it knowing he was safe from being banned. Why? Because he was basically singlehandedly keeping the site alive. Eventually he [[MagnificentBastard took over the admin's position]], [[MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail and there was much rejoicing.]] * A young man at a (Catholic, mind you) highschool got three different girls pregnant by his senior year, was busted multiple times (on campus) for drugs, and should've been failing several of his classes. Why wasn't he kicked out? He was the best basketball captain the school had seen in years, silly! ** Just because he's a (highly skilled) Jerk Jock and possibly a CompleteMonster...I wasn't there, so I don't know what I'd do. * While not quite as extreme as some examples, i have gotten away with an extended list of offenses against school, class, and teacher rules including but not limited to, back talking to the teacher, tardiness, eating and drinking in a class full of computers and delicate electronics, bypassing school security to play games and/or stream video, open discrimination against work done by other students in the form of deleting projects that have Rap, [[strike:jock worshiping]] ego worshiping, and anything related to twilight. The only reason why the keep me is because i have been almost single-handedly keeping the school news up and running for 4 years now. ** i would like to add bypassing school security to load mass effect 2 on the content director computer. it's getting to the point that i am just messing around to see what they will put up with. * This troper knows several organizations like that (and works for one). After signing his latest contract, he jokingly told his coworkers the exact date they could expect him to start acting like a complete git. * In Italy, even harrassing co-workers isn't grounds for dismissal. This troper has a number of friends who have horror stories to tell about the hazing they received from co-workers at Italian companies. * Subverted at this troper's workplace, at a software company. Writing horrible code that no one else can understand is one of the classic forms of UltimateJobSecurity mentioned on the main page. Our codebase has its fair share of that, from three different coders who are no

longer with the company. The worst of the incompetents was even named Bush. They're long gone now, and those of us who are left work hard to maintain the messes they left behind and occasionally fix some of the more egregious mistakes. I should note that this is only even remotely possible because we're using the Delphi language, which was designed specifically to be easy to read and understand the code. Had our projects been in [[LogicBomb C++,]] it would have been UltimateJobSecurity for those guys for sure. * This Troper has UltimateJobSecurity in his football(soccer) team despite being not very accurate or technical, but is the only player in the team who has enough stamina to play an entire game as central midfielder. * My father runs a law office. A former, grossly incompetent, receptionist tried to invoke this trope by having a, let's call it ''unique'' filing system. That is to say, she'd leave various forms, briefs, bills, contracts, etc. in a jumbled mess that only she could understand instead of using the filing cabinet three feet from her desk. Needless to say, her attempt failed miserably. * One of my high school math teachers can't be fired because he's union and he stuck to the job long enough. Never mind that many people are convinced he's insane. (I learned NOTHING in his class. I just had to make sure my notes and tests looked freakishly neat to please him, and trust me, this was enough to drive me nuts, him constantly talking about his crap childhood aside).If you get put in his class, tough luck getting out, because the least amount of students are always put in his class because most of them will try to transfer out anyways. * At this troper's job he used to work for, he came late often, had several schedule conflicts, dropped a ton of merchandise, didn't get along with a lot of associates and was often forgetful of his career rank when talking to superiors. However, to let him go was not a good idea since he could single-handedly keep his department stocked, was one of the hardest working associates the store had ever had since opening and the only one in his department who could recall where an item was located in his department better than the back of his hand and was the only one who knew how to use every option on his scanner. Oh and the customers liked him... <<|TroperTales|>>

UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny * Cthullu vs. The Ugly Barnacle? * [[{{Demetrios}} This troper]] had a sublime thought recently. I thought of something that would make ''WorldOfWarcraft: Cataclysm'' even cooler. One name: [[DungeonsAndDragons Bahamut]]. He's the ultimate good guy when it comes to dragons. He'd show [[BigBad Deathwing]] a thing or two. :) * [[{{Touhou}} Reimu Hakurei]] vs. [[{{Mushihime-sama}} Princess Reco]]. * In the battle of randomly-selected male anime characters, we have [[{{Hetalia}} Austria, England,]] [[{{Fullmetal Alchemist}} Roy Mustang]], [[{{Eureka Seven}} Holland Novak]], [[{{Gintama}} Katsura, Hasegawa]], [[{{Soul Eater}} Professor Stein]], [[{{Sengoku Basara}}

Uesugi Kenshin]], [[{{Bleach}} Szayel Aporro Grantz]], and my {{One Piece}} OC, [[{{Cultured Badass}} Kartik Abingdon]]. * Who do y'all think would win a fight? [[TwentyFour Jack Bauer]] or JamesBond? ** [[TheBourneSeries Jason Bourne]]. * Who would win in a StealthMission, [[AssassinsCreed Altair]] or [[{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer?]] ** [[InFAMOUS Cole [=McGrath=]]]. *** COLE?! He's not stealthy! He's not stealthy at ALL! ** Solid Snake. That is all. * Who would win in a game of chess; [[SuzumiyaHaruhi Yuki Nagato]] or [[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Spock]]? ** [[TakeAThirdOption Ami Mizuno]]. * Ambrose Burnside and Isaac Asimov in a sideburn show-off. 'Nuff said. ** Wolverine would win, hands down. * Who would win in a fight; [[ThatGuyWithTheGlasses Santa Christ]] or [[AngryVideoGameNerd Super Mecha Death Christ 2000 B.C. 4.0 Beta]]? ** My money's on Super Mecha Death Christ 2000 B.C. 4.0 Beta. Come on, Santa Christ is [[BeyondTheImpossible too weird even for that show]] * Here we have the two fictional characters most obsessed with having a good fight. In one corner: the very large and crazy-looking [[{{Bleach}} Kenpachi Zaraki]]. In the other corner: a guy who's a legend even among the already fearsome [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Goff clan]], Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka. Place your bets. ** [[MyImmortal Goffs]]? * Yusei Fudo or Yugi Motou? So far the conclusions I myself have come up with are that Yusei wins, but only if he can pull out a Majestic Synchro Monster. Obviously this is a ground duel as Yugi's deck is many years before Turbo Duels. And yes, Yugi has the Gods, but I put Majestic Star Dragon at the same level as them, meaning that Slifer and Ra have no attack points and Obelisk is the only one who could pretty much screw Yusei over. Alternatively, Kiba vs JACK ATLAS or Joey vs Crow. * [[{{EarthBound}} Ness]] vs. [[{{FinalFantasyVII}} Cloud]] anyone? * Two weeks ago, I was at my brother's birthday party, and when whe switched from Star Wars: Force unleashed to N64 Pokemon Stadium, we started contemplating a fight between a Pokemon and a Jedi. We concluded that while a Jedi would probably win against any pokemon (albeit a fight against a stronger one would be far from a curbstomp), a fully evolved level 80+ Pokemon would probably be signifigantly stronger than most anything ELSE in the Star Wars universe (up to and possibly including a TIE fighter, depending on the Pokemon). ** Blaziken with Blast Burn VS anything Star Wars... hey, even beskar melts at the right heat. * Related to the troper immediately above myself, a friend and I periodically chat about who and what would fight where and what would be most effective and cool. One that came up recently included [[CrazyAwesome Charizard]] and [[AGoAmI Deoxys,]] leading a [[RagtagBunchOfMisfits Blastoise, Raichu, Vespiquen and Machamp]] with a small army of other [[Mook]] [[Pokemon]] to overtake a [[StarWars Droid Army]] who were guarding the area around [[LordOfTheRings Minas

Tirith, who were in cahoots with Orcs and Trolls.]] Godzilla, an OC and [[DeathNote Ryuk]] were in there somewhere too. * Tales of synphonia team Vs Tales of Phantasia team who will win? ** Well, Phantastics are outnumbered 10 to 6, if we count Emil and Marta... but which team holds the Eternal Sword? Wait, let's see... Lloyd, Zelos, Regal, Presea and Emil overwhelm Cless, who only has Chester and Suzu as backup. Ops, but Klarth is a much better summoner than Sheena. So, while Genis and Arche dart spells at each other, Mint goes down thanks to both Raine AND Marta. Let's say that Team Symphonia wins by sheer numbers. ** Hulk smash text heavy responses! * Let's settle this once and for all: the original, the [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Tyranids]], vs. those they inspired, the [[{{Starcraft}} Zerg]]. Who would win? ** By extension, here's another: who's more drenched (no pun intended) in HighOctaneNightmareFuel: the Tyrant Guard or the Infested Terrans? * Who would win in a fight between [[{{Persona3}} SEES]], the [[{{Persona4}} Investigation Team]], the [[{{Persona2}} Persona 2 team ]] or [[{{Persona}} the original Persona team ]]? ** My money is on the Persona 2 team. Not only does the group have some far more experienced adults that can summon their Personae any time, they all have the ability to switch which Persona they use at any given time. Between Maya, Tatsuya, Eikichi, Jun, Lisa, Katsuya, Baofu, and Ulala, the other groups don't exactly have an advantage in numbers. Taking down [[spoiler:[[EldritchAbomination Nyarlathotep]]]] doesn't hurt their case, either. * In an interview with Sam Lake, the lead director of ''AlanWake'', the last question asked was, "Who would win in a fight - the Log Lady from ''TwinPeaks'' or the [[{{Expy}} Lady of the Light]]?" Lake replied, "They'd sit down, drink tea, and have an incredibly cryptic conversation that no one else would understand." He's probably right. * [[MiraiNikki Yuno Gasai]] vs [[{{Firefly}} River Tam]]? ** [[MemeticMutation River Tam beats up everyone.]] * Darth Vader vs. Adof Hitler, who's a more deadly enemy? * Bambi or Godzilla? * [[{{Prototype}} Alex Mercer]] versus [[FirstEncounterAssaultRecon Alma Wade]]. [[TokyoIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse In Tokyo.]] * This troper and his friend once got into an intense discussion about who would win in a fight: [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann LORDGENOME]] VS [[OnePiece WHITEBEARD.]] Ultimately we couldn't decide who would win. But we DID decide that Whitebeard would manage to destroy Lazangann, and that the winner would lose several limbs in the process. * [[{{Halo}} Master Chief]] vs [[{{Metroid}} Samus Aran]] vs [[MassEffect Commander Shepard]]....Begin. ** [[HalfLife Gordon Freeman]]. ** No. They all win. Everyone else loses. * Could [[{{Hitman}} Number 47]] complete a contract on [[DeusEx J.C. Denton]]? * [[{{LordoftheRings}} Aragorn]] vs [[{{X-Men}} Wolverine]]. * Here is one for you: What would happen if {{XCOM}} (UFO Defense era) would be dropped into the [[{{Starcraft}} Koprulu Sector to fight the zerg, just after the fall of the UED]]? The working hypothesis are: X-

COM have all available human and alien tech from UFO Defense. The Terran funds them the same way than the council of funding nations. Recruiting works the same way than in UFO defense. So does crafting items and building facilities. Vespene gaz can be used in place of Elerium-115. They could scavenge old battlefields to get their hand on Terran and Protoss Tech. The Hyper-Wave Decoder doesn't works against zerg, so they would have to analyse a zerg drone to build a similar stuff. To get to Kerrigan, they would have to research: 1) a random zerg. 2): The data collected. 3): A zerg Overlord. 4) The data collected. 5) A zerg queen. 6): The data collected. Then, fly the Avenger toward Infested Kerrigan. * [[BlackLagoon Balalaika]] versus [[FullmetalAlchemist Olivier]]. [[TheMafiya Hotel Moscow]] versus [[BadassArmy Briggs Bears]]. Who lives? * [[FinalFantasyII Firion]] vs [[FateStayNight Gilgamesh]]. And by extension, [[FinalFantasyV Bartz]] vs [[FateStayNight Shirou]]. Both Firion and Bartz would be using their FinalFantasyDissidia incarnations. Also, [[FinalFantasyTactics Agrias]] vs [[FateStayNight Saber]]. The last one might cause a [[http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/238/587401-saber_agrias.jpg paradox, though.]] * 5-on-5: Old CartoonNetwork vs New CartoonNetwork. Who would win? ** Old Cartoon Network, sorry New Cartoon Network but CN Real will be the reason for your defeat. * [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Lobo Lobo]] vs [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Deadpool Deadpool]]. Winner faces [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SquirrelGirl Squirrel Girl.]] * This trooper does this asking if x and y got in a fight who would win? She mostly use's the Daleks though cuz come on best villain ever. * When I was in college, we called this game "Legolas Versus Spiderman" after one of our early matchups. * This one makes me wish for a teamup after the battle: [[FutariWaPrettyCure Nagisa and Honoka]] vs [[ShakeItUp CeCe and Rocky]]. ThePowerOfFriendship VS ThePowerOfFriendship at its finest. * [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SquirrelGirl Squirrel Girl]] vs [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Batman?from=Comicbook.Bat man Batman]] anyone? * An [[MassEffect2 ardat-yakshi]] and a [[TheDresdenFiles White Court vampire]] have sex. [[DeathBySex Who dies]]? * [[CthulhuMythos The Great Old Ones]] vs. [[WarhammerFortyThousand The Ruinous Powers]]. Whoever wins, we're all screwed. * The AlienInvasion of Earth is almost successful. With nearly all their bases taken over, and no other equipement than an avenger and enough Elerium to fly it to Cydonia, the [[{{XCOM}} extraterrestrial combat unit]] recruits [[TeamFortress2 nine mercenaries]], and get them into the avenger, destination Mars. [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth They are of course so batshit insane, if the aliens try to mind control them, they would just go berserk.]] What happens? * Nine cities have to face a ZombieApocalypse. [[TeamFortress2 nine mercenaries]] are recruited, and one is send to each city. Who

survives? Who kills all the zombies? ** Heavy would last fairly long assuming he can get time to eat sandviches, he'll probably die punching stuff to death though. Medic would last due to healing factor but then die bonesawing stuff do death. Spy and scout are doomed if they so much as get hit. Burning Zombies are never the answer, but pyro would last a good amount of time. Sniper would run out of ammo then die and the demoman would blow himself up as would the soldier. So it goes to the engineer assuming he has enough metal for dispenser/sentry. * [[JustCause Rico Rodriguez]] vs. [[{{Crackdown}} the Agent]]. A physics-defying freedom fighter vs. a super soldier for a police state. One city. No vertical limit. * AdolfHitler has pissed off God so much that he's decided to get involved personally. Well, sort of. He's sending an army of indestructible golems down there to sort Hitler and his National Socialist cronies out. How long will it take for the Nazi regime to meet its [[LaserGuidedKarma poetic demise?]] * This editor proposes a no-holds-barred intercontinuity death match featuring vampires... [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and a crusnik]]. [[TrinityBlood Abel Nightroad]] vs. [[{{Hellsing}} Alucard]] vs. [[TheVampireDiaries Stefan Salvatore]] vs. [[TheVampireChronicles Lestat]] vs. [[GaiaOnline Louie Von Helson]] *gasp* vs. [[SesameStreet Count von Count]] vs. [[Literature/{{Twilight}} Edward Cullen]]. [[BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand NOS-4-A2]] and [[MahouSenseiNegima Evageline McDowell]] are the commentators. Only rule: Cullen dies first. ** [[{{TakeAThirdOption}} The]] [[{{Touhou}} Scarlet sisters]] would, of course! Or do I have to acquaint you with the [[{{PersonOfMassDestruction}} ability]] of the younger one of the Scarlet sisters?

UltimaUnderworld * We named our cat Rodriguez, after the troll who calls you that. We decided anything else would have been too hard to say!

UncannyFamilyResemblance * This troper is a female version of Harry Potter in the family resemblance phrase "You look exactly like your mother, except for your eyes, you have your father's eyes"... I also have my dad's hands... uh-huh. * This troper saw a picture of his father at his age. He looked EXACTLY like me. ** This troper once found a picture of himself of when he was 8. When i asked my mom about why the picture was in black&white, i got told it was a picture of my dad, at about 8. * This happens often in ThisTroper's family. ThisTroper is often asked if my distant cousins are my brother/sister/twin. Also, his mother and one of his older cousins look nigh-on-identical at times. Then there are the times when people think that two close cousins of his are dating (it really freaks them out when they have to explain it, lol)

* [[LoonShia This troper]] looks completely like his father, especially since they have started growing the same kind of facial hair. * [[{{Tropers.Akiba}} I]] look, sound, and act quite similarly to my 2nd cousin (My mom's 1st cousin). It's from the genes on my grandma's side, not [[KissingCousins that]], thank you very much. * This Troper loves telling this story because its so awesome. My mother has 3 younger sisters , all married and with children. My mother had me, the eldest daughter and I look like my father. My mother then had a son who looked like her. Third eldest gets married, has children. First a daughter that looks like her father, then a son that looks like his mother. The second eldest gets married, has children. First child is a daughter that looks like her father, then a son that looks like his mother. The youngest got pregnant a year ago and during her pregnancy there was a running bet of whether it was going to be a boy or a girl, as she did not want to "spoil the surprise" so to speak. She recently gave birth and it, surprise surprise, her first child was a girl that looked exactly like her father. ** I just HAVE to ask, has enough time passed so that she has a second child, who is a boy that looks like his mother? * This tropers family members always told her that she looked like her Mother, she never bought it until she saw old photos of her mom at her age and the resemblance is just freaky. * [[{{Kuzlalala}} This Troper]]'s big sister has an UncannyFamilyResemblance to her mom. Once she played music on stage, with lipstick and other makeup on, she mistaken her as another person, and she does look like her mom! And when she asked her sister (who's a young adult now) if she would look like her mom if she gets married, she answered "Maybe." Then her mom would look like her grandma, then This Troper panicked "Mom's gonna be my sister and Grandma's gonna be my mom!" This Troper herself looks like her dad, as her sisters commented. Sorta like a DistaffCounterpart at a degree. * [[ARandomSerf This troper]] saw a picture of my father in his midteens that I would have ''sworn'' was me if I didn't know better. * [[{{fidheallir}} This Troper's]] family historically have an UncannyFamilyResemblance to each other, a trend which continues to this Troper's generation. * Apparently, this troper and her mum look scarily alike. ''My mother herself'' once saw a photograph of herself at about six that my grandmother hand and thought it was one of me. Similarly, my sister looks so much like our dad's side of the family that if you look at baby pictures of my sister and our aunt, you can't tell them apart. * I could play myself,, my father and his father in a film based on my family tree. * This troper saw a picture of his uncle when the latter was several decades younger. ''He looked virtually identical to the troper's brother''. * This troper came across a few photos of her grandma in her teens and younger, and found that she looked very similar to her. It does/n't help we were rather alike too. * When this female troper and her male cousin were younger, we looked

similar enough that people frequently assumed we were twins. We grew out of it, though. * When I was a kid and found a photo of her mother, I asked her why my picture was in black and white. * One day I was waiting for a bus and happened to see a family coming into the station. There was a mother, a girl around nine, a boy around six, a girl around five, and an unidentifiably-gendered toddler in a stroller. I was only paying attention to the latter at first, since I love babies, but something about its face struck me as a little UncannyValley-ish...so I looked up and discovered they ALL had the EXACT same face. Note that I'm one of those people who ''cannot'' understand the subtle distinctions in faces, and I can't even begin to determine if two people are related simply by looking at them; therefore, if someone like me says it, then you know they really, ''really'' looked completely and utterly identical. * This troper is often mistaken for his father (at least when seen from behind or at a distance). Often it's his mother that does the mistaking. * Everyone is constantly commenting that [[Tropers/KatanaCat I]] look almost exactly like my mother did when she was my age. * [[Tropers/ThirtyTwoFootsteps This troper]] looks like his father to a rather significant degree. There are only three differences. The first minor difference, that his chin is much larger than his father's, is usually hidden by the beards both wear. His hair color has always been darker than his father's, although that's only really distinct in the right light. However, the fact that he grew to be five inches taller than his father is a dead giveaway as to which one is which. * I look exactly like my father except i dont have curly hair. None of my looks come from my father at all. Ironically, i have never met my father. * I tend to be mistaken for my mom when I answer the phone, since apparently we sound alike. * I'm mixed race (Japanese mum, Caucasian American dad)and just about everybody in my extended family has said that I look like the spitting image of my dad's younger sister. Hey, at least when I'm her age I'll take comfort in knowing that I'll still be good looking. * One day at work, my co-worker's mom/boss's wife came in to pick some stuff up out of the workshop in the back of the kennel. My supervisor and I exchanged glances and then immediately agreed that our co-worker looks nothing like her dad and everything like her mom. * This troper and her mother are very close in looks, apart from her being a brunette with green eyes, and this troper being a red-head with grey eyes. I get my habits and mannerisms from her farther. ---Dear lord! [[UncannyFamilyResemblance This link]] looks just like its twice-removed second cousin!)

UncannyValley * This Troper is terrified of a certain doll who looks IDENTICAL to his infant cousin.

* This tropette was watching [[DigimonFrontier Digimon Frontier]] and realized that each of the five main characters holds huge parallels to a person in her life. The total differences were NINE. NINE. * This troper's response to the trailer for the upcoming movie for TheSmurfs went something like this: "Oh God, it's ''this'' movie. Hollywood will make a movie out of anything these da-AUUUUUUUUUGH, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEIR FACES?!" * Trollface. Am I the only one? ** The first time I saw it, I was like. "WTF IS THAT THING?" And every time I saw it, I was like, "Must...look...away..." because for some reason, every time I saw it, I was reminded of that Batman Beyond movie that I saw when I was 5 that scarred me for life, where Joker made Robin into a little joker through surgery and genetics, for some reason. I slowly got used to it and can handle it without reacting to it like [[BrownNote Medusa's head]] anymore. * This troper can't stand child pageants. The poor girls look so synthetic and fake. I can't stand people who dress up in animal costumes. Piercing create a very unsettling feeling in me. * [[Anime.FullmetalAlchemist The chimera that Shou Tucker created in episode 7 of Fullmetal Alchemist (2003)]] fell under this trope for [[Tropers.ReikoKazama me]]... [[AwfulTruth until I realised who it was.]] [[UnstoppableRage DAMN YOU,]] [[CompleteMonster SHOU TUCKER!]] [[MoralEventHorizon I WILL FOREVER HATE YOU WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY 15YEAR-OLD BEING FOR THIS,]] [[YouBastard AND I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL.]] [-[[TearJerker.FullmetalAlchemist Poor Nina...]]-] [[hottip:* : FINALLY, I get to say what I've wanted to say! The Webwasher filter at my school has gone what can only be described as a variant of haywire, and is blocking perfectly innocent sites for no apparent reason. Case in point, I was trying to edit this page and put my entry in, but it wouldn't let me save the edit! * cue several {{Cluster F Bomb}}s and considerable amounts of {{Angrish}}* ]] * [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-real-robots-built-to-love-you-todeath/ This]]. Number one in particular is incredibly unsettling... "looks like he's wearing a peeled child," indeed. * This troper is known for having five modes: fidgeting, pacing, eating, typing and asleep. All it takes to freak people that know me out is to STOP all movement and stare at a wall. Reactions have ranged from "What's wrong?t" to "Oh God, call an Ambulance!". * [[TheGameMaster This troper]] can't stand anime. I always end up seeing those exaggerated facial expressions as real and it falls right down this alley. Especially when they're making a ":D" expression, or something like that. HOW DOES YOUR MOUTH KEEP CHANGING SIZE. WHY ARE YOUR EYES FLAT SURFACES. HOW DO YOU BREATHE WITH A SMALL BUMP FOR A NOSE. Chibi stuff aren't so bad, as long as they're only portrayed as chibi and nothing else (As in, a "realistic" *shudder* character turning into chibi is scary, but a character that's always chibi is fine). ** I also hate Smileys. No wait, they're fine. However certain ones scare me. ^_^ = happy, but it's NOT SMILING. :3 = What else can it be? It's pretty obviously a SCROTUM face. Smileys with mouths are fine (:) :( :P :O :D) but not when people repeat the mouth (:DDDDDDD :OOOOOOO etc.)

** Both are because Japanese people (and maybe Asians in general) look at different parts of the face when trying to recognize emotions. The greatest difference being that westerners look at the mouth, while Japanese people look at the eyes. So less attention is being payed to the mouth, and more to the eyes, which is why manga and anime, as well as Japanese emoticons (^_^ , @_@, etc.) have proportionally large eyes. What emotions are expressed with the mouth have to be overstated, thus the large difference in size. The Japanese beauty ideal is small mouth and nose, thus manga/anime characters have those characteristics. :3 is a CatSmile. ** This troper (AIR) is ok with anime in general. However, I can't stand the way most shojo is drawn. They look like aliens!!! * I have one that really annoys me. A neighbour has this statue of an owl. It's VERY realistic, but has these creepy, shining eyes. Every time I pass it at night, I go "HOLY SHIT OWL!". Then, "Oh yeah...", then "ARGH WHAT THE HELL." * Though Handlebars (Flobots) is one of this troper's favorite songs, the people in the music video creep her the hell out. * This troper's mother was immensely disturbed by the characters of ''MonsterHouse'', which lacked the more cartoonish proportions of other CGI movie characters. So much so, in fact, she refuses to watch the movie again. * Cars in the 1980s that had voices to alert drivers of potentially hazardous situations squicked me out a little. This troper still cringes at the idea of a car saying, "The door is ajar." ** This troper laughs at them, because he was a smart-ass that said "No, it's a DOOR." *** Every time? ** "ATTENTION, ATTENTION! [[CaptainObvious THIS VEHICLE IS GOING BACKWARDS!]]" Argh, [[{{Tropers/Orihime}} This Troper]] * loathes* her neighbor's car. ** This troper's brother had one of those, and we decided that it sounded like Tom Brokaw only Tom Brokaw is a robot alien and we'd make up stories about him. ** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfQCje-aUck "PEGGY'S FATHER WITH ALZHEIMER'S IS ESCAPING!" "THE BASEMENT DOOR WAS JIMMIED WITH A BACK SCRATCHER!"]] ** This troper has a a GPS route-finding device that announces directions out loud. It sounds like HAL, and its directions are wrong enough of the time that "Take me to X" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" is a family joke. Sure, it's a glitch, but ''just maybe'' it's trying to kill you... Not to mention the inherent creepiness of "You have arrived at your final destination." Intoned with ''just not quite'' enough inflection. *** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a69eC7ldAcI Funny you should mention that...]] *** Oh, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXiXfUhfVT0 this episode of Doctor Who, too.]] * This troper can't help but have a shiver down his spine every time there is an Anonymous protest outside his local Scientology HQ. White face masks galore. ** [[IAmLegion Anonymous is legion]]. We do not forget. We do not

forgive. ** When you say "local," are you implying that you frequent it? If so, please continue your shivering until you can tell us WHY ARE THEY DEAD. *** I'd say that "his" would imply that he frequents it, not "local". ** Pick up VForVendetta. You'll learn to love that mask. *** You sure? This troper would dearly love to see a [[VForVendetta V]]-versus-[[DarkKnightTrilogy Joker]], not the least of which because at least ''one'' of 'em will be dead by the time it's over... * This troper has a cousin with severe genetic defects. On the surface, she looks like an ordinary girl of her age. But spend even a minute in her presence, and the defects become apparent. Not only is she unable to stand upright without support and has seizures, but she is mentally retarded to the point that this troper isn't sure if she's truly sentient. She's like an animal in a human body - and yet she is kin. ** This troper has a great-aunt who's mentally retarded to the point that she has the mind of a four-year-old... despite being in her late 50's. Every time his family goes to visit her, he can't help but be really, really creeped out. *** TwoWords: TearJerker. ** That's why I can't substitute teach in [=EC=], (what used to be called "Special Ed") classes. My empathetic side feels sorry for them, but every other instinct is calling for retreat. The exaggerated cheerfulness of the other teachers in there doesn't help. They pretty much have to do that to register on the kids. *** You too? I missed my last possible year to go visit a school in LA filled with the kids who are just too mentally impaired to go to a normal high school. He couldn't help but pity them when they'd come to perform for Christmas, and looking at a friend's field trip form, rule #1 of the trip was "YOU ARE NOT TO PITY THEM". How can I not, the poor souls... *** This troper has been stuck in Special Ed, and HATES the overlycheerful crap. I'm disabled, not stupid! *** Aye, this Troper gets very creeped out around mentally disabled people. Not to mention birth defects and other things. *shudders* ** I once saw a special on TLC about a girl who doesn't age. She was technically 16 years at the time of shooting, but she had the body of a baby. [[http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17379-teenage-babymay-lack-master-ageing-gene.html Here]] is an article about her. I find it almost too bizarre to comprehend. ** This troper goes to a high school with a Special Ed class in it and has to walk by the classroom on her way to lunch as the disabled kids are getting ready to eat too. This troper has to keep her head down at the floor to keep herself from running away. It's not that I'm truly afraid of them (I really do sympathize for disabled people) it's just it frightens me to know that they weren't supposed to be that way, they could have been normal, yet somehow they weren't born right. It frightens me even more if they're mentally retarded as I don't know what to do in situations like that without feeling uncomfortable and scared. ** This troper's nephews were burned in a car fire when they were

young; their burn scars ranging from just a few here and there to one who bears an uncanny (pun not intended) resemblance to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacqueline_Saburido Jacqueline Saburido]] (both were trapped in their seats when their respective fires happened). I don't feel it's effects since I've seen them at least once a month (and have gotten used to it), but I only noticed this trope applies to him when I overheard a small girl who couldn't be older than eight at a high school football game say "mommy, that kid looks weird" or something to that effect. ** Jesus Christ there's a shitload of [[UnfortunateImplications ableism]] in this thread. ** There's some ableism, yes, but there's also recognition that it's ''not'' socially acceptable to treat mentally impaired individuals differently - and yet many people have an irrational part of their brain repeatedly smashing the panic button every time they are around these individuals. This whole trope is about the fact that there is, for many people, an intuitive response of DO NOT WANT to things that seem human-but-not-right, and the fact that it is the exact same response to an extremely lifelike robot or puppet as to a child with, say, down syndrome makes it very clear that this is not society creating a stigma, but a built-in human reaction. (Not to mention, it ''is'' depressing to meet all the kids who are functionally retarded and will never be able to live on their own just because Mommy couldn't stay off the crack and booze while she was pregnant.) I learned from substitute teaching that while I handle just fine the high-functioning "special ed." kids who just have learning disorders, I need to stay away from the "sheltered environment" assignments, because I can't effectively hide my body language from the other students in the classroom when a kid who hits my own Uncanny Valley effect approaches me, and I don't want to encourage treating those students as different. ** This teenage troper HAD TO LIFEGUARD, for the mentally and physically retarded. While I admit I was not effected by the uncanny valley here, do you know how pathetic it was to watch some of them swim? Half of them were in wheelchairs, and had to scoot around in the wading pool on their butts. Two in particular were really sad cases, both of them in wheelchairs. One was a boy and he was probably around my age, his hands and toes were curled into his body and it didn't seem like he had much ability to control them, although he wasn't flailing or anything, they stuck him in a neck brace (it looked like a life vest, but it didn't go on his torso, he was LITERALLY floating around by his head and neck dragged around by an aid). The other case was similar, although instead of being all curled up, she was flailing around and at times wailing or seeming to be very angry at being in the pool, she did not float around by her neck, and despite her nervous flailing I noticed she had some control over what she did. She seemed to be trying really hard to get away from her aid... Worst of all? I still see some of these kids around the high school, as it was the school pool. ** This troper spent a weekend with a bunch of other theater groups at a school, among them a school for disabled people. Before this weekend, this trope applied for her. Now she's completly over it.

* This troper has inherited her mother's very pale skin and tall, painfully thin build (aided by a metabolism running at the general speed of a Concorde), along with strabismus (more commonly known as 'squint') in the left eye. This makes it seem as if she isn't looking directly at the person with whom she is speaking (when in fact actually she is) and coupled with the rest of her inadequacies, it makes for a probably overall unsettling image. She has gotten used to the odd looks and sometimes rude remarks and generally tries to dispel them with good humor, an application of subtle self-tanning lotion and a pair of dark-tinted glasses when out in public. * [[Tropers/PotatoBucket This troper]] has a bad habit of thinking that store mannequins seen out of the corner of his eye are real people. ** Each morning and every afternoon this Troper walks past a shop that has one and has done so for a year and it STILL creeps her out. ** This troper does that too. It's why she's been afraid of them since early childhood. ** [[{{Tropers/Atagamay}} This troper]] Has done this several times. It ''still'' makes me jump. ** [[Tropers/AckSed Same here]]. ** [[{{Tropers/Saboteuse}} Me too!]] It's just how my brain registers them. ** Here's a new thought for you.. I took a modeling class and we actually were taught how to pose to be a mannequin. There are jobs out there for people pretending to be a mannequin. Some of them may actually be a person. (At least around the holidays.) ** [[{{Tropers/Shadowgirl_13_chaos}} This Troper]] does that a lot too, and gets really creeped out when they don't have heads or arms before realizing... ** And then when the people in the window actually ''are'' real, you do a double or triple-take... *** I once saw, out of the corner of my eye, a real person taking apart a shop dummy. Yeah, that was frightening. *** This troper frequents a mall where one of the stores has mannequins with half of their heads missing, as if they were [[DiagonalCut sliced off at a weird angle]]. They have a mouth and the bottom half of a nose, then the head ENDS. NO IDEA why anyone would put that in a store window. *** The basement section of this troper's local Myer store seems to be invoking UncannyValley, since it's teeming with mannequins. This Troper has occasionally bumped into a person and turned to apologise, only to find that said "person" is actually a mannequin. Eerie. And then there were the "mutilated" mannequins displayed during Halloween... *** This troper has always found some bit of creep-out value in mannequins, not enough to have a real life episode, but enough to turn the mannequins from SilentHill 2 into NightmareFuel. And the perfectly harmless offscreen decapitation of one in SilentHill 3 practically knocked me out of my chair and left me scrambling with heart pounding. *** A level on Condemned has living mannequin enemies, cue this troper freezing stock still in fear when he was locked in the clothes store where he worked with dim lighting behind many many mannequins. They

lined the path to the office meaning that my walk turned into a short sprint near the doors, no looking back. **** Series/DoctorWho, the first episode of the rebooted series. That is all. *** The Kohls mannequins are terrible, especially the children ones... ye gods! ** For me it's scarier when I see something in the corner of my eye, think it's an object, then find out that it's an actual person or something else living. It was especially scary when it happened with a little girl who looked like she came straight out of a horror movie, white dress, a bow, hands clasped behind her back, and just ''staring''. ** [[Tropers/TenderLumpling This troper]], at eight years old, was accidentally locked in the dressing room of a community theater while her mother was rehearsing for ''Little Women''. In the room, there was a mannequin propped in such a way that it seemed to be towering directly over me. I am now twenty-one years old, and I ''still'' hate mannequins. ** For me, it's those flat cardboard people that make me creeped out for the same reasons. *** This troper's school library has these cardboard cutouts of people. They're very realistic and look three-dimensional. They creep this troper out to no endthey ''look'' like real people. Except they're not. And that's really creepy. * [[{{Tropers/Atagamay}} This troper]] Has ''always'' had issues with pictures of birth defects. Not so much disfigurements from an accident or something, just anything congenital or genetic. There's just something about humans being born looking inhuman that makes me feel like nature isn't to be trusted, and the world is a really squicky place on a primordial level. I saw a commercial for some Discovery Channel show about The Elephant Man when I was around eight, and... Well, needless to say, I didn't watch Discovery for a while after, and that commercial was ''literal'' NightmareFuel for me off and on for years after. Which probably means this is more like NightmareValley for me. ** This troper read the elephant man story online and promptly need a hug and [[TearJerker a Kleenex]]. ** As far as birth defects go, the scariest by far is Harlequin babies [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlequin_type_ichthyosis]], born ''with their skin inside out and keratinized into diamond-shaped scales...a gaping inside-out mouth, two slits for a nose, holes for ears'' and '''bulging red eyes which usually bleed at birth.''' - the photographs (if you can bare to look) provide enough nightmare fuel to power a spaceship at the speed of light across the entire universe. DONOTWANT. ** [[{{Tropers/Aque}} This Troperess]] has been always bothered by pictures of ''any'' newborns and babies covered in blood and such. It's just that... I mean... I just hope it'll be gone t'll I'll give birth myself, 'cause screaming of fear and [[{{Squick}} squicking]] on the sight of own child is retarded. * This troper is scared of Michael Jackson. He is...unreal. Same for most celebrities who had a bit too much surgery. They look like

inhuman monsters. ** While he may look creepy, you have to admit that he was an awesome musician. Before, you know... But this Troper is with you one-hundred percent when you say plastic surgery is creepy as all hell. ** Seconded! I'm a big Micheal Jackson fan, but... he reminds me of Voldemort. I once had a dream where everyone (even my pets) had his face. OHGODOHGODDONOTWANT!!! ** The whole feeling strange about plastic surgery thing is true for me, too. When the current queen of Sweden made a speech a few years back and a 12 year old me was there to watch in person, i was somewhat puzzled, but i had no idea why. after looking for a moment or two, I realized this was because her face wasn't moving while she spoke. Everything but the mouth was absolutely still. I have had nightmares about that face a few times since, before i realized why her face didn't move. ** The first time I saw Micheal Jackson, I didn't know who he was and asumed he was an actor staring in a horror movie. * Not sure where to put this, so I'll just put it here. Many/most Aspies (definition from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspies the other wiki]] - by the way, no matter what it says, '''yes''' we have a sense of humour), This Troper included, both ignore the Uncanny Valley and fall victim to it. They/we ignore it by not seeing it in the first place, it just doesn't register - for example, I saw nothing wrong with ''Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within''s physical portrayal of people, and highly enjoyed ''Bicentennial Man''. We fall victim to it in our interactions with those strange creatures known as 'neurotypicals' (you call yourselves 'normal' ;P), where many people pick up on something subtly 'wrong' about us and treat us according to their beliefs on 'different', varying from 'intriguing' or 'finally, someone interesting', through 'humour him, edge away slowly', all the way to 'DIFFERENT EQUALS BAD, DESTROY!'. I'll let you decide for yourselves what this does to someone over a lifetime. ** This Aspie Troper ''does'' notice mannequins and is rather scared of them (though noticed nothing wrong with the Final Fantasy movie), but tne again she ''is'' only mildly Aspie. *** Holy crap, are you me? *** Same here, except I '''was''' actually creeped out by FF:TSW. **** ohhh.. thats why everyone around my always thinks im so scary. 1 i am an aspie. 2 i have learned to cope with the fact that people are scared of me by avoiding people, so people dont really know anything about my personality. 3 i am a really big muscular guy. i guess all of them combine to scare the crap out of people. ** I don't have Asperger's, but I'm not particularly creeped out by famous UncannyValley ad people like the CGI Orville Redenbacher, The Burger King or Aunt Jemima. *** This anonymous troper also doesn't mind Aunt Jemima or Orville Redenbacher, but ''is'' very spooked by the Burger King. ** This troper doesn't have Asperger's either, but finds nothing odd about most UncannyValley examples. If anything, the stylization can be kind of neat. (Corpses and zombies are still creepy.) Incidentally, I don't find most people with Asperger's particularly annoying either, as long as they don't decide that I need to hear all about the Ranma

fanfic they're planning. (I cringe even at the memory.) ** This Aspie troper can back up the examples, except that I was deathly afraid of the rows of identical, slowly turning clowns used in luck games at local funfair type thingies. These days, not so much, and I'm thinking of ways to avert the MonsterClown. On the other hand, see TheGreys below. * This [[{{Tropers/Shadowgirl_13_chaos}} Aspie Troper]] has a big problem with messy CG animation, like that horrible baby from the Pixar short Tin Toy ** And this Aspie troper always wondered, what's all the fuss around this thingamabob called UncannyValley about? Mannequins? She never paid any attention to them. A talking car? She thinks, only a pitiful neurotic can be scared by this. Skeletons and zombies? Fun, fun, fun! Time for a good old-fashioned [[{{Blood}} pitchfork]] showdown! ** [[{{Tropers/Asuyuka}} This troper]] is a case of PDD-NOS (PDD is the same umbrella that Aspies fall under.) However, I seem to suffer a lot less Uncanny Valley incidents than my Asperger boyfriend. Such as I have no issues with The Spirits Within (love that movie) or Oblivion, but playing either will send my lovely other over the edge. ** This troper has PDD-NOS also, and he finds the term neurotypical rather offensive. Sometimes he sees Uncanny Valley in drawings or real people. *** What's wrong with neurotypical? *** I know 'neurotypical' isn't the nicest or most accurate term in the world, but it's the only one we have at the moment. It'll do until somebody invents a better word for a non-autistic person. **** "Normies". ** This Aspie troper often notices people being slightly unnerved by her, sometimes even before she says anything to them. She attributes it to an Uncanny Valley reaction brought on by lack of neurotypical body language. ** This Aspie troper has never experienced this "UncannyValley" thing. The Burger King guy is just a man in a stupid-looking mask, mannequins are mannequins, robots are robots, etc. I can't for the life of me figure out why people are so bothered by not-quite realistic representations of humans; don't you all know that it isn't the real thing? *** We know it isn't the real thing. It's just that it can be unsettling when we expect something to act or look a certain way only to see that it doesn't. *** Also, the fear is on a deep, primal level - knowledge and logic don't enter into the equation. ''We'' know it's a doll or computer model - but our subconscious mind thinks it's a HIDEOUS FREAK FROM THE UNDERWORLD. *** This non-Aspie troper has never experienced anything like others on this page describe herself. Go figure. ** This Aspie Troper has never experienced Uncanny Valley response beyond an occasional mild "that's pretty creepy" (Usually when she's been briefed beforehand that she should have some reaction, so even then its validity as a genuine experience of the effect is questionable) that she knows of, except for one thing -- the Splicers in ''{{Bioshock}}''. She's even the one that first added them to this

article. Something about them manages to trigger the sort of "MUST KILL NOW!" response that she's heard other people talk about. The first time she got a close look at the corpse of one in the demo, she had to grab the wrench and beat it a few times just to make sure it was dead. The Little Sisters, on the other hand, get absolutely nothing from her -- she thinks they're creepy, but for entirely different reasons relating more to CreepyChild rather than a supposed "not-quite-human" appearance. ** This broader autism phenotype (BAP---debate rages whether it's a real disorder or just introversion run wild) troper tends not to have too much trouble with the Uncanny Valley, even going so far as having random [[FetishFuel sexual fantasies]] about some of the women in Oblivion's Imperial City. ** I have PDD NOS, and I'm certainly affected by UncannyValley. In fact, I have that reaction for other species, too, especially cats. I saw a video once which had taken still pictures of cats and animated them (like the animation bits in [[MontyPython Monty Python]] except with cats) and it really creeped me out. Animals trained to act like humans can set this off too, such as an auditory UncannyValley reaction to cats saying recognizable words (which some can do with a lot of training). ** This Aspie troper apparently seems like an example of the Uncanny Valley to some people. He wasn't diagnosed until age 29, but it explains why other people's reactions to him have sometimes been so extreme. His facial expressions often tend toward the frowny side when he's thinking (which is frequently). When asked a question, he'll purse his lips, squint, and furrow his brow while pondering the answer, causing the question-asker to think he's irritated or downright pissed off. Asking him a question while he's exerting himself will yield an even more face-contorted response (and often a curt reply, due to the difficulty of having to coordinate two wildly different parts of the brain). Then when other people react to such responses, this troper will read the shift in the person's demeanor, and wonder what set it off, introducing confusion and increasing frustration into the situation for both sides. And before too long, the frustration leads to anger, which looks even scarier. And then there are the people who find his seemingly-extreme reactions amusing, and who will do everything they can to needle a response out of him, just for the entertainment value. It's like being poked with a stick, and ignoring them seldom works because they know he's aggravated and will thus keep doing. Then when this troper has finally had enough, the resulting rage mode seems unreasonable. It's like being a sideshow exhibit. ** [[Tropers/MmmKay This autistic troper]] sees why puppets can be very creepy, but also has a crush on [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/gerryanderson/images/thumb/9/9c/Sc ottTracyCloseUp_TheImposters.jpg/200pxScottTracyCloseUp_TheImposters.jpg one]]. However, only the ''true'' one is toleratable, but [[http://mikecane.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/scottemad.jpg certain]] [[http://www.thunderbirdfigures.com/images/scott.jpg variants]] [[http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/~bat/GA/OT-MODEL/sci-scott-1.jpg are]]

''[[http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL799/3128947/6364418/113399284.jpg NOT]]'' [[http://images.joke.co.uk/images/webshop/medium/61105.jpg go!!!]] ** Ah, that would explain why this Aspie Troper isn't bothered by this sort of thing... usually. ** Actually I don't buy all that about Aspies being generally immune to the UncannyValley... Remember, the UncannyValley is ''extremely'' subject to YourMileageMayVary in the first place. Also above there are already some exceptions listed. *** Very true. I don't think Aspergers has any effect on personal likes and dislikes. Two given aspies will be as different from each other as two given NTs will be. A lot of people seem to forget that. ** This troper is an Aspie, but he has exactly the opposite response with the uncanny valley. The uncanny valley is extreme for this troper. He could not finish watching "2012" because the science, while sounding logical, is so off that it became downright uncanny for him. If any other troper had that problem, he has not seen that entry. Bizarrely, he did not have that problem with Avatar, but he always has that with food in CGI films. He normally loves the trope. ** This troper is best friends with someone with Asperger's, and loves the boy to ''death,'' but at points she can't stand being ''near'' him, because he just triggers a primal urge that there is something ''wrong'' with him. *** This troper with Asperger's is extremely self-conscious about falling into the Uncanny Valley. She is uncomfortably well aware that her rocking backwards and forwards, talking to herself, and making strange movements somewhere between dancing and possession while listening to music is considered extremely creepy to others. Hell, it creeps her out when her fellow aspie brother does it. And on a personal level, to disprove the whole "Aspies don't have the Uncanny Valley" theory, supermodels. It's not the unnatural perfection that gets this troper, it's the freaky pouty expression they have in EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN PICTURE. UGH. So yeah, just because our valley (or just this troper's valley) is a bit different, doesn't mean we don't have one. Oh, [[MonsterClown clowns]] freak me the hell out too. And those singing.....''things'' from {{Mirrormask}}. *** This is why AS-types should never ''ever'' '''ever''' admit their disorder - because then you're seen as UncannyValley and then peoples' response is "Get this crazy..''thing'' out!" *** This non-autistic, completely neurotypical troper has had people tell her that ''she'' falls into Uncanny Valley (not in those words). When I ask them why they're so weirded out, they either can't say why ("You're just...not like other people.") or they say it's because she walks fast or writes fast, or because [[TheStoic she's very calm.]] I don't understand it at all, since I know people with those traits and they don't fall into Uncanny Valley, I don't move differently than most people, and I don't look weird or anything. I could be sitting perfectly still and reading, wearing normal clothing, and they still stare like there's something wrong with me. ** This Aspie troper actually suffers bouts of Uncanny Valley in real life. Sometimes, after sitting and watching the t.v. for awhile, seeing all of these people with makeup and shite on, he'll turn and

look at the people around him, who just seem...off. * This troper with Aspergers has never been even slightly upset by models, mannequins, anime, etc., but occasionally experiences the Uncanny Valley while looking at herself in a mirror. She also triggers the Uncanny Valley for her parents. It's a side effect of aimless skipping and rocking, a strange toe-heel gait, and constant murmuring or tuneless singing. Consequently, she feels like she's acting whenever she's out in public. * Just '''try''' to not cringe when you walk up to a perfectly normallooking person to discover they're wearing a Scream mask. ** How about try not to laugh? * This troper had to watch The Others for a college class once. She was totally cool until they got to the Book of the Dead, the photos of ''corpses'' posed like living humans. Cue a days-long full-bore freakout. I couldn't sleep for thinking how they'd pose me if I died. I was afraid of the chair in the bathroom lest I turn around and find a body sitting in it. I eventually turned the whole experience into a final exam paper on the uncanny valley, but I was Not Okay for quite some time. ** Try livejournal communities like 'darkvictoria' for this sort of thing. Scroll through a lot of lovely family portraits (albeit most in mourning clothes, to fit the comm's theme) and then BAM, it's a mother holding her dead child, or a baby posed on a chair with adhesive mortuary eyes on so it looks like it's staring at you with its eyes COMPLETELY OPEN. No lids, just whites and then this dead black pupil... shiver. The gesture of post-mortem photography is beautiful, and this troper's contemplated once or twice whether she wants it done after she's dead- not just casket photography, but me posed to be reading a book or similar-- but oh, jeez. They're about as lively as any other Victorian photograph, and worst of all, sometimes you can't tell... ** This Troper has never seen that picture, but got creeped out by the discription. *** GAH! This troper has seen that exact same photo, during a classmate's presentation on postmortem photos and... just... oh good god what were they thinking? *** Back in the day, digital cameras did not exist, where you could shoot literally thousands of photos a day virtually everywhere. Victorian-era photographs were very much more like portrait shoots all the time. You don't necessarily get to have them while your loved ones were still alive, so this was pretty much the only other option of having something to remember them by. **** It's in no way the intent that gets this troper-- the intent is beautiful, even admirable. It's the execution. **** And again I ask - what other options did they have? Dead people, no muscle control, no pink flush, no breathing, no sings of life. You either take photos when they're alive, or when they're dead. And if they died before any photos were taken of them... **** Just because it was a logical alternative back then doesn't mean it isn't incredibly unnerving ''now.'' **** Exactly! I'll grant that most Victorian era post-mortem photography just makes them look like they're sleeping, and is only

creepy with the knowledge that they're dead, but to ''glue a dead baby's eyes open oh my flurking God!'' how did they not find THAT just a little creepy at the time? * This troper couldn't have been the only girl in the world who was seriously freaked out by the Teddy Ruxpin doll? OK, the first time I saw it, I liked it. But the second time I saw the store display, the thing had been running for a long time and made gear grinding noises whenever its eyes and mouth moved. Traumatized for life. Best friend had one, and this troper refused to sleep in the same room with it. The very patient friend had to either carry it out into the living room or have it hidden before I even arrived. ** I can't say about the first girl, but [[http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/no stalgia-critic/2205-halloween-08-special you're not alone in that opinion]]. Of course, said ThatGuyWithTheGlasses special might just make him scarier; [[SchmuckBait better to stay away]]. ** This troper's sister was once given a set of the animatronic teddy ruxpin and grubby dolls, as creepy as those things are, it doesn't help when their voices do a slowdown akin to that of a tape recorder thats run out of battery power. "Hi Teddy, my name is Grubbeeeerrooowww...." * This troper visited Mount Rushmore on holiday once, and spent the whole day seeing George Washington smirking or winking just out of the periphery of his vision. * I'll say this even if my sister and hordes of fangirls attempt to murder me: GACKT. Seriously, he looks fine in the Final Fantasy game, but then you realise: HE IS A REAL PERSON. That's just creepy. ** EXACTLY. This Troper is even more freaked out by this for the Perverse Sexual Lust she harbors for him. He looks so artificial... ** He's so pretty that it WORRIES me! *** Wait, WHAT? GACKt..as in..Gakupo? **** Gackt, as in the real life singer who was the voice source of Gakupo. Gakupo is "Gackt+poid". * This troper was startled by how much of this he invoked with an extremely simply costume for Halloween, dressed as [[EdgarAllanPoe the Red Death]]. He took a standard BlackCloak with hood and an attached face-covering veil that only the wearer could see through, then simply put on a red scarf and a red [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans Mardi Gras]]-style masque over it. The result made it appear as if this troper [[TheBlank had no face]] and the masque was simply floating over an empty chasm. It made teenage pollsters scream and run at forty feet. ** This troper had a similar outfit on halloween, A black robe with black gloves, and a black one-way hood that covered my face from view, the difference being I had a set of glasses that turned on for a few seconds then turned off, and repeated this endlessly. The effect being it made it look like I had a glowing red set of eyes that appeared and disappear. I made several children cry the night I took my 5 year old brother trick or treating, one case was bad enough when I walked up to the door I had to take my mask off to calm her down. On top of this I scared several adults and teenagers crapless, with many surprised shouts and startled reactions. I was also a little creeped out by

myself, because I went to the basement room to check how my costume looked in the mirror. All-in-all it was a pretty scary costume... ** This anonymous troper had that problem when she went as Ledger Joker last year. I took cream makeup, lipstick, and green hair dye that made my hair look stringy and greasy (but not green, my hair's too dark... T_T). I made several little kids cry just by looking at them, made several adults and teenagers jump, and nearly gave my own mother a heart attack. On a side note, the Red Death is an ''excellent'' idea for a Halloween costume... *** This troper was working in her University's cafeteria when someone dressed as Ledger's Joker came in. At first she was just stared, a bit bemused. Then he smiled at her... She had never been more scared in her life. *** This Troper dressed as Ledger!Joker about three years ago for Halloween, and must have been deep in the Uncanny Valley for a few people. I won the award for scariest costume in the costume contest at my school, and scared the shit out of a little girl (who was, ironically, dressed as Raggedy Ann). When she came around the corner and looked at me I smiled at her and she made the D: face. It looked like she was gonna shit a brick. Another time, about eight or nine years ago, I was dressed as the grim reaper for halloween, so I was probably in the Uncanny Valley that year as well. One of my next door neighbors, when he learned that I wanted to try and scare people, gave me the advice to just stand there and stare. It worked. I accidentally made a kid cry. *** This troper once had sticky tape stuck over her mouth to shut her up in class once. She put on her slightly ScaryShinyGlasses, grinned [[SlasherSmile a la Ledger]] and looked at a friend. Said friend FREAKED OUT. The teacher asked me to turn around. Cue slow head turn and everyone in the class shitting them selves, including the teacher. *** This troper was sitting in line at her local convention's consuite when she noticed a guy cosplaying TimBurton's Sweeney Todd. Goodlooking and note-perfect costume, haggard appearance, bit of a [[NoodlePeople Noodle Person]], but no problems there... so I waved, and complimented him on it all with my usual cheer. The conversation stopped dead; he didn't respond, or even move, but merely looked at me darkly... and then I realized his one hand had crept back to stroke his razors in their holster. By all appearance real vintage straight razors. Friends say I went dead white and took a ''big'' step back... then promptly left the consuite and did not return. (This is from a troper who went around hugging Joker cosplayers, and currently has a [[NightmareFuelUnleaded 1/4 scale BJD head]] in his likeness sitting disembodied around her house.) * This troper was at a grocery store and noticed the seagull sculptures along the shelves of fish. He had to put his hand to them to make sure they weren't real. * This troper knew this girl in middle school. She looked perfectly normal and all, but... just... off. He's not entirely sure how to explain. Just... she moved so unnaturally. She was like an action figure. It would have been deeply disturbing if, by that time, this troper had not seen countless corpses, decapitations, lynchings, burnings... the internet is not a good place for disturbed people,

that it is not. * This troper is okay with inhuman looking characters, as long as they are consistent from panel to panel, somehow. Plot related shape changes are okay, but if there is no explanation, cue freakout. In other words, clearly defined rules of anatomy or no thanks. * Recently this troper has theorised that the reason he is so freaked out by [[TheGreys Grey aliens]] is probably that they fall somewhere in the UncannyValley. Spindly, genderless, huge skull-like faces... they do look something like skeletons... ** Greys are said to be a modern personification of ancient fears about fairies and such - they'll take you away at night, they're really weird looking, they're supernatural... *** ...either that, or I'm suppressing memories of alien abduction. Which would explain a LOT. ** This troper finds them adorable...but the fact that she had a bunch of those shirts and stickers with cute hippie-ish aliens in tie-dye giving the peace sign when she was a kid might have something to do with it... * The 90's live-action AnimalFarm made This troper hate pigs for most of her childhood. (to the point of never even allowing one near her whenever the rare opportunity arose.) Not because of how the story portrayed them, but because ''realistic pig snouts shouldn't move like human lips.'' It's just ''wrong''. Actually, a lot (if not all) of movies that have live-action animals talk like people fall into this trope. * Mannequins are one of this troper's major {{Squick}}s, but I also detest fake plants. Their unnatural perfection creeps her out -plants shouldn't have 100% green leaves with unmarred trunks/stems and perfectly identical flowers. And they shouldn't feel like dead, scratchy ''fabric'', but that's obvious. * Skeletons. Especially ''moving'' skeletons. They're not fun, they're ''creepy as hell''! Somehow, they clearly look a lot like humans... except they're horribly, horribly wrong, like a ''way'' too thin human being. By extension, anything that looks similar enough to a skeleton (or any head with sufficiently skull-like features) becomes creepy. ** [[Tropers/GwenStacyWannabe This troper]] has been uneasy about skeletons since childhood, to the point of running away crying from every single Halloween decoration featuring one. I've never really understood why you would ''want'' jewelry or clothing or what have you with a skull motif. *** Because it looks ''damn cool'', that's why. *** This troper isn't bothered by skeletons at all. He thanks rpgs. * Looking at the commercials for that new Coraline movie (the one being created by Henry Selick, the guy that made The Nightmare Before Christmas) give this troper the heebie-jeebies; at first it looks like CGI, BUT THEN, later in the movie it switches to a REALLY jerky movement scheme and give the characters a texture like they were made out of cloth (not to mention the whole "buttons for eyes" in the book... ** That would be because it's stop-motion. You know, like WallaceAndGromit, or The Nightmare Before Christmas. I really can't blame you for being creeped out - I don't think they could've chosen a

better way to make that movie. * This Troper does not experience the Uncanny Valley, at all. This extends to real corpses. That such a thing even existed did not even occur to me until I stumbled across it on that other wiki. For the record This Troper has a spotless mental health record. ** This trooper is the same way. Most of the examples on the list just strike me as badly rendered. Not creepy, not scary, just badly done. And real corpses are dead, anyway. Never understood how someone can fear something that can't even move. *** This trooper believes the reason people are instinctively afraid of corpses is not because they think they're going to sudenly grab for them and try to eat their brains (although that helps), but becase a dead corpse is a potential plague bearer and not at all the best thing to hang around. ** This Troper doesn't really experience the phenomenon either. However, she DOES see how others could be freaked out by it. In fact, she enjoys finding and if possible collecting things that fall into the [[UncannyValley Valley]]. More on that later... * This Troper bought a three-foot fake trick-or-treater mummy for KMart for Halloween this year. It was the most awesome thing he had ever bought at the time... but now, when he walks down to the living room at 6 a.m. and sees it standing, the faintest light glinting from its black eyes, its arm extended as if beckoning, and he occasionally mistakes it for a real person... * The freaking freaky IMVU web advertisements that show up everywhere pretty much embody ErectionRejection for [[{{Tropers/Cliche}} this troper]]. Having phony smiles and expressions on plastic-like body models dress up in a variety of supposedly FetishFuel outfits? [[NightmareFuel These are the things that will haunt my sleep indefinitely]]. * This troper isn't much frightened by bad CGI, overly "realistic" dolls like MyTwinn or Reborns (let alone ball-joint dolls, which are far too stylised to do any damage), sex dolls, robots or mannequins, but is absolutely revulsed to the point of sickness by bad photoshop jobs-- especially those done on child beauty pageant contestants. It's just childlike enough and then infinitely not-child, and if you spend any time around ''actual'' children ever it just makes it worse, and oh... To boot, mini-busts of comic book characters also give me the willies, especially if they're less stylized than their source material. Oh good Lord. * This troper has a growing phobia of a certain type of face: very strongly expressive, usually with heavy/dark eyebrows, dark eyes and a strong mouth. Particularly when it's on something that isn't human, but [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-XIMEHGoZI&feature=related seems to have a soul anyway.]] [[http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1378/hatchetfishlz8.jpg And that soul is screaming.]] Warning: NightmareFuel ** It's actually NightmareRetardant for the second picture when you realize that those fish are making perfect 8O and D8 expressions. ** Reaction to dog video: Ahahaha .... OMFG, please stop staring!!!!!! * This troper has had a few run-ins with this trope, but one that really stood out was a recent commercial for H & R Block or something.

it had a bunch of people -- real people-- who had CGI added to make them look like cyclopes. Combinations of real people and CGI always creep me out. * This troper can't stand huge breast implants. [[YourMileageMayVary They're so disgusting and disturbing to look at]]. ** Same, but with all cosmetics (but there is [[{{Pettanko}} another]] [[PerverseSexualLust reason]] for the implants as well...) *** I second the cosmetics and the improbably big implants. And female tropers, please, PLEASE, '''PLEASE''' don't shave your eyebrows. Drawn-on eyebrows DO NOT. LOOK. RIGHT. ** This troper is really bothered by them because not only do they look odd, they also look incredibly stupid and unfitting for the woman who got them. This especially becomes apparent with video game characters who have the MostCommonSuperpower or GagBoobs... Yuck. * Umm, how screwed up do you have to be for parts of the UncannyValley to act as FetishFuel? Just asking... ** Not very. Rule34 pretty much insures it. UncannyValley, like Squick, NightmareFuel, FetishFuel, etc. is a very subjective trope. * [[Tropers/LeighSabio This Troper]] once made a mask out of a picture of a real face, and wore it to a costume party. People who knew me well got instantly [[{{Squick}} squicked]]. After all, they knew my face, and this wasn't it. Might also be because the way I cropped the face picture to fit on the mask unintentionally made it look a little like it was a girl with her head cut off. * Don't you think that some fashion model photographs, especially the ones that try quite hard to look 'seductively blank-faced' or rather, 'deadpan' fall straight to the dreaded valley? This troper had a hard time to look for the element 'sexy' in those pictures. The heavy makeup they wear just worsen the matter, really. * '''Just try''' reading [[PhantomOfTheOpera The Phantom of the Opera]] and then looking up photos of Erik online. If unmasked Erik doesn't scare you enough with the whole living corpse thing, think about this: Erik can creep about in the shadows as silent as a mouse, so silent that his victims don't notice until it's too late. He dresses in all black, so all you would see of him if you turned to look are his glowing yellow eyes. He has tunnels and trapdoors everywhere in the opera house; he even has one behind a mirror ''in his beloved's dressing room.'' If that still isn't enough, imagine being approached by a guy in a detailed, full-face black mask with glowing yellow eyes. Oh yeah, and he kills people. Pleasant dreams... * is there anyone else who is creeped out by those ball-jointed dolls. It's not necessarily the dolls themselves, but the photography of them that exists on places like deviantART. I'll just be browsing around, spot what looks like a nice picture of some girl and her boyfriend, click on it and it looks... wrong. It takes a couple of seconds to work out that what I'm looking at is a pair of dolls, and that freaks me out for some reason. ** Hey. This troper ''owns'' a ball jointed doll, and is looking to get a second, but having that happen gives me the ''severe'' creeps. I'm okay with sites or galleries that are all doll pictures, but trying to puzzle it out on the fly-- is that a joint or just their shoulder? Is that a shadow, or the line where the doll's head

delineates from its neck?-- makes me panic a little every time. ** Ball jointed dolls aren't as bad as those expensive children's dolls. My friend has a bedroom full of them, all around her bed and on her drawers and stuff. They look pretty real and probably even real-er at night. It doesn't help that many are on those metal stands and boxes. I don't know how she can sleep. * [[Tropers/AXavierB This troper]] is terrified by mannequins. * This troper started [[OldShame drawing regularly in the seventh grade]], and tried to imitate anime style. However, she hadn't yet acquired a good sense of proportion or otherwise an idea of what a human is supposed to look like (or, in more sophisticated terms, she drew on the left side of the brain as opposed to the right), so she drew humans with incredibly flat (sometimes even ''concave'') heads and these huge, vacant, zombie-like eyes with sparkles placed randomly in them. This troper has since had [[NightmareValley nightmares]] about her old drawings of flat-headed zombies that were supposed to look like normal people. * [[Tropers/SapphireFlame This Troper]] feels his own personal uncanny valley is a little to the left of everyone else's. So while ultrarealistic robotic humans leave me feeling mildly creeped out, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyyzboAXzFk this video]] left me deeply, deeply disturbed. ** No, This Troper is pretty sure that falls solidly into Uncanny Valley, I'd find it hard to believe there's someone who wouldn't be creeped out by that. *** * raises hand* Believe it. This troper doesn't see anything creepy on any of these pages. Subjective trope is subjective, remember. * [[{{Tropers/Talden}} This Troper]] have met the Uncanny Valley in a bus. She looks like a young woman, but thinner than every single thin woman. She must be suffering severe anorexia, to the point were you can see her ''bones''. Yeah, literally, all she got was some flesh left on her bones. Combined with a pale, cadaveric skin, and a black robe in wich she seems to float... Looking at her was like looking to a human skeleton. She was creepy enough, but then she starts to ''move'', like a disincarnate puppet; her arms reaching slowly the door, straight as two pieces of wood, shivering lightly. And then, she ''gasps''. Ooooooh boy, that was NightmareFuel ! * This Troper has a wish (for lack of a better term) of making the cast of AzumangaDaioh real. (Not like [[PerverseSexualLust that!]] For friendship. We have a ''very'' lonely troper here.) Assuming they look like normal, and not like real people, there's still how to, er, "render" them. I'd choose constantly updating 2D over 3D. But then, there's still the tactile aspect, either having them feel like [[UncannyValley plastic]] or the realistic approach - their skin feeling like real skin, their hair feeling like real hair, et cetera. [[NauseaFuel Urp.]] * This Troper once had a babysitter who was a fundamentalist Christian who always acted happy to a creepy extent even when there isn't a reason to say "Happy Tuesday!". The way how he acted like he had one emotion made a swear he was not human, placing him deep in the valley for me. * There exist photoshops of Gaston and Belle from

''BeautyAndTheBeast'' with their facial features swapped. Gaston in particular has disproportionately small, delicate figures in the middle of his face with tons of space to spare. Someone on LJ had it as their icon. I'm not sure whether I should laugh or feel viscerally horrified. ** This troper saw it and made sure to IM it to every person on her buddy list :D * This Troper works at a telephone relay service for deaf people, which frequently involves calling companies with automated menus. Normally this is not a problem, but somewhere along the line someone had the bright idea that these voices should be recorded to convey emotion. Machines were never meant to sound that much like real people, so everything sounds just a little bit wrong. Every time Social Security apologizes (completely insincerely) for the long hold time, This Troper dies a little more inside. * [[Tropers/MikeK This troper]] ordinarily doesn't have a problem with mannequins, but there was the time he was on the bus and suddenly noticed the girl across from him - apparently coming right out of a nearby cosmetology school - was holding a disembodied mannequin head with realistic hair in her lap. Eek. * [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLy-AwdCOmI This thing]] is still reigning supreme as the scariest thing [[Tropers/RiL this troper]] has ever seen in her life. ''Oh my god, why is this this?'' ** I saw that for the first time about a week ago and [[CowardlyLion slept with the lights on for three days.]] ** It shows how deranged this troper is that she's clicked on that link three times and still smiles after seeing it. It's cute! Sort of... crippled and ineffectual and high-voiced and [[MoeMoe moe]]. ** This troper is now scared of how much that thing scares her. ** This troper wonders what the heck that video was, since now it's been removed. ** If [[Tropers/GateDragon this troper]] is guessing right, the video was of a roughly human-looking gynoid that sings a creepy sort of song, while her hands and head move slowly. "I am fantastic, hey hey hey." Combined with a trippy {{BLAM}} of a forest scene with the same music over it randomly appearing. *** Yes: It's [[http://www.youtube.com/user/halloweenandroid Tara]], an android built by John Bergeron; that's one of her "music videos." Tara is ''terrifying'' and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsUcvm5bw8s& her other music video]] is ''even worse''. You know you're in trouble when you start asking "is she scarier without eyes, or with?" ** I'm thinking the music may be enhancing the effect. I'm not usually creeped out by the uncanny valley but that video was getting to me. Then I watched it again, but muted. It hardly bothered me (and I'm thinking that what is bothering me is remembering the music). ** O_O -Starts Loading Revolver Frantically* Those blends of two people to show what their potential offspring might look like ''really'' get this troper. Especially if both people are grown-up actors-- I can't help but look at it and get conflicting cues of which one of them it is, until realising, it's ''both''. AAAAGH. No matter how good the photoshop is-- and sometimes it's

really good-- it... throws me. [[http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_startrek/44477.html The offspring of ZacharyQuinto and ChrisPine look particularly uncanny.]] ** To each their own, cos as a fan (and shipper) of both; he's gorgeous! * [[{{Tropers/Lullabee}} This troper]]'s [[CreepyChild younger sister]] once intentionally invoked this trope, apparently - I went to all the bother of [[CarryingACake bringing home cupcakes]] (subverting the potholed trope by bringing them home all right) and how does she thank me? She [[HugeSchoolgirl looms over my shoulder]], grins, and ''holds her breath''. For about two minutes. NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished. * This troper can't suppress a shudder whenever shown Kingdom Hearts screenshots. For some reason the people in it REALLY creep me out. ** This female troper thinks that they are all very hot, [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer especially Kairi and Namine]]. * Birds look like bad stop motion animation to this troper. * Those commercials for Christian music [=CD=]s scare the hell out of me (no pun intended). Those crowds, doing the synchronized arm-waving with raised faces and half-shut eyes just scream [[{{Zombie Apocalypse}} "zombie horde"]], and make me think I don't keep [[MoreDakka nearly enough firearms]] around the house. ** Are you freaked out by people doing the wave, too? Because I am. It just looks... hinky. * Until you've seen it, you have no idea how ''weird'' it looks to see a transmission leaking transmission fluid on your garage floor. Why? Transmission fluid looks almost exactly like human blood. ** Try approaching a flipped car in your ditch and seeing it in the water. I was terrified that someone had actually gotten killed. * I can't be the only one who was freaked out by the robots in I, Robot? Most of the time it wasn't so bad because even though their faces were humanlike, they were obviously robots, but Sonny was exceptionally creepy because he acted and looked like one. Shudder. * She's never actually scared or creeped out anyone aside from people who are scared of dogs in general, but people have mistaken this troper's Pomeranian Luna for a doll before, and then get surprised when the dog moves or they look closer and realize she's real. This usually happens when Luna is sitting in a special pouch that fits across my chest and she usually is very calm and still when she's in there, and often just her head sticks out. * [[http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/12/yoshika-miyafuji-lolisukumizu-cosplay/ This attempt at cosplaying Yoshika Miyafuji]] from ''StrikeWitches'', while a valiant effort, ultimately looks more like if [[DeathNote L]] and the actual Yoshika had a child, and that child wants to [[MindRape rape you mentally]] before she rapes you physically and then tries to kill you. The sloppy Photoshop work on some of the pics doesn't help matters either. Judging from the majority of the comments there, this troper isn't alone in that assessment. [[HeWhoFightsMonsters And when you gaze long into a loli, the loli gazes also into you, and the loli does not like what she sees.]] ** [[NightmareFuel * curls up in a corner* ]] ** [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute I thought it was cute.]] In a very

{{Yandere}} sort of way. * When this lurker went to the museum as a kid there were these mannequin things in the exhibits that were painted and everything they looked just like people until you got close. * Does anyone else never smile for pictures, because they don't look ''right'' when they do? ** I try to smile when I feel bad and don't want to upset people. But when I do, I am usually told I either evoke a huge "Omg-I'm-so-sorry. What-can-I-do-to-help?" response, or an "WTFOMG[[HumanoidAbomination]]RUNFORYOURLIVES!" response. ** * raises hand* Me! I usually just do a vague, distant grin because that's the only way to escape the valley. (There's actually some science behind this - the muscles used for a real smile are hard for a person to pinpoint and use on command, so when you intentionally try to smile, you leave out entire muscle groups, and usually end up with a pale imitation of the real thing.) ** Whenever [[Tropers/{{Abracadavre}} This troper]] smiles, [[TheUnSmile it comes off as cold and mocking,]] which is pretty freaky. Also, my face has this cold and expressionless look like a robot. I'm kind of scared of myself... ** This troper is taking her second photography class, and we are taught to take "portraits" instead of just "snapshots". This is quite frustrating to explain to any of the subjects of the portraits I take for my class, as seemingly everyone's first instinct when they have a camera pointed at them is to put on a cheesy, {{uncanny valley}} smile. This was especially bad with my friend's young cousin, who is like that ''all the time'' anyway.... ** This is a trick I was taught. Tell yourself a joke, to get an honest smile. It WORKS! ** This troper's brother makes the most hilarious Squick face at anything slightly homosexual, which never fails to make us (me and my twin are BiTheWay) chuckle. This is what i use to avoid SlasherSmile. ** I don't. Of course, having big, puffy lips that should be on a black woman and me being a Caucasian male... I am a resident of the UncannyValley... And therefore I have to bite my lips in just to look normal. ** This is exactly why I hate any photos taken of me; it's like I forget what I'm supposed to do with my facial features or something. The eyes are either too open (which makes me look AxCrazy) or too shut (which makes me look sleepy / stoned), my eyebrows never sit right on my forehead, the smile is too wide and forced... [[HeelRealization Aw, crap]], [[GlamourFailure I'm a]] HumanoidAbomination, aren't I? * sigh* ... [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu anyone for scones?]] ** There's actually a reason a fake smile doesn't look right. Several of the muscles we use to smile are triggered involutarily; they only form their part of the smile when we are genuinely smiling out of happiness. Attempting to force a smile causes several subtle, almost subliminal aspects of the smiling face to be left out, which causes a very unsettling effect. ** This troper's mother used to insist on him smiling for pictures. Then she said "Actually you look kinda like a serial killer here." This combined with having a mild cross-eye ''and'' one eye being

slightly darker than the other (both for related reasons, probably) has led to this troper just hating pictures in general because they ''always'' look wrong. * This troper was particularly creeped out by a museum display. It was of a man on a horse, the most realistic thing ever. It look EXACTLY like a real person... until you noticed it didn't move an inch. Didn't blink. Unnaturally still. Out of the corner of her eye, this troper swears it moved. * Does anyone else get creeped out by the mannequin in I am Legend? The one that moves and is part of the infected's trap? * Bloodshot eyes. [[Tropers/GwenStacyWannabe I]] saw a kite with stick-on bloodshot yellow eyes as a child and never quite got over it. I still cringe when films use them as a "joke." * Anyone creeped out by the puppets in TeamAmericaWorldPolice? Or was it just me who was the freaked the hell out? * This tropers uncanny valley seems to be bit to the left or right of other peoples, for instance, watching the Terminator perform eye surgery on itself was comforting in a strange way but that may have been because it confirmed that it wasn't human, face it, Arnold looked werid in that movie. This troper might have slipped into it herself as a 3 year old as back then she could have passed for autistic (she turned out to be dsylexic), and laughed when her mother shouted at her, which could have been creepy. Also Susan Boyle creeps her out, there's just some ''signal'' that cheery face isn't giving off. * Remember that scene in ''{{Blade Runner}}'' in which Pris gets shot in the gut and starts screaming and frantically flailing her limbs in odd directions? Yeah...that one. Scares the hell out of me. * Female characters in American TV shows such as ''{{Desperate House Wives}}'' and ''{{Pushing Up Daisies}}'', what with all the surgery, heavy make up, and unnatural lighting, have a strangely prosthetic look. This when combined with their unnatural and "comically" bubbly demeanour really unnerves this troper. * This Troper volunteers at a charity shop, and was sorting toys when she came across a Barbie with an... unusually lifelike face. What made it even more creepy was that it looked a little like Sarah Palin... * While working at a garden centre at Christmas, this troper was mistaken for a festive life-size doll when she stood still for a minute among some decorations, startling the person walking past when she moved. ** This troper also studies Special Effects in Uni. The workshop was at one point full of white, lifelike, disembodied plaster heads, and the odd random latex bodypart. * This troper has made an online roleplay character inspired by the doll in ''The6thDay'' example on the main page, was initially trying to aim for this and ended up averting it: everyone said character meets loves her, even despite the random seize-ups and miscellaneous malfunctions! Still can't decide whether I want to make her creepier or cuter. (Of course she hasn't gotten into a fight yet...) * I can deliberately turn my own face into this. Normally I look fine, but I do this thing I call my stalker smile, where I grin while opening my eyes as wide as I can. Instant uncanny valley. It's ended up as something of a running joke between my friends, and I find it

very hard to do it to myself in the mirror, because I either creep myself out too much or just start laughing at it. It feels weird too, like I'm stretching my face too far or something. Hence why I only smirk when I want to look happy. * I dare anyone to try and tell me that Bill O'Reilly's guest in [[http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200909100060 this video]] is not in fact the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the UncannyValley. Humans are supposed to ''show signs of life'', even when they aren't actually speaking. ** To me it's not so much UncannyValley, but rather the dissonance of face and voice that irritates me about it. From the face and expression I would have expected a much deeper voice than that. * [[{{Tropers/Guji}} This Troper]] is creeped out by the girls in 'The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya'. It's because of their eyes; I think they look like fish eyes. The boys avoid this by having less detailed eyes. * This Troper doesn't find anything unsettling or uncanny about things like most mannequins, sex dolls, statues, or humanoid robots, but he DOES find babies ugly. Really, really ugly, to the point of edging towards creepy to look at. Despite being in his mid-twenties, he has yet to see a cute (human) baby. [[{{EverythingsCuterWithKittens}} He thinks baby animals are adorable, though.]] * For This Troper, manequins and 'perfect' looking models/people (mainly in adverts) creep her out. It's mainly because they don't have any 'dents' from life e.g. scars, moles, wrinkles, and so on, making they look so 'perfect' that they don't really appear human anymore, and loop right back into {{Uncanny Valley}}. And yes, she knows often a product is trying to be sold, but it still creeps This Troper out. * [[{{Tropers/Tovarishch}} This troper]], while due to either his DeadpanSnarker attitude or the fact he suffers an extreme form of ADD, used to be invulnerable to this trope (and in fact has an unhealty obsession with gynoids)... until the day he saw [[http://www.jibberjabber.tv/ Jibber Jabber]] with one of his younger cousins. You can guess [[NightmareFuel how terrifying]] are the character designs by that... and that's supposedly a child's show. ** When i first saw Jibber Jabber it struck me as poor quality cgi than anything... and then i looked at their hands. Oh god, their hands... they have only three fingers, simpsons-style, but the fingers are weirdly long and seem to have too many joints. Every time i watch the show i just stare at their hands. *** Thirded so hard. When this troper first saw the show, it didn't just strike me as 'badly done CGI'. There's just something incredibly WRONG and CREEPY about their smiles and buggy eyes. * Taxidermied animals. From the dead, glass eyes to the fact that that fur used to be on something that was actually alive...brr. ** This Troper has a similar problem with those Fureal toys that supposedly mimic real life animals (and end up looking like real dead ones to me). It's like someone got a taxidermy cat and animated it. * Ever since her dad first showed her a picture of one, this troper has always been unnerved by the blobfish. Basically, it's a deep sea creature that looks like the disembodied head of a fat little old man. This troper's still not really sure what makes them so creepy; their

big bulbous noses, their slimy greyish pink flesh, or their beady little soulless eyes, but she's sure that she'd never want to see one of those ''things'' washed up on the beach. Unfortunately, It seems that she's alone here, because she actually knows people who find them ''cute''. ** You are not alone. First time I saw one i was like: What the f**k is THAT?!? * When this Troper went to see the Harry Potter prop exhibit in Chicago, she couldn't help but notice how unearthly creepy the "pixies" were. However, the statue of Buckbeak was so realistic and endearing that I felt compelled to hold out my hand so he could sniff it. * I have a picture of me at my mom's old nursing school from when I was five, looking as miserable as miserable can be. But can you blame me? I was standing next to a model of a SKELETON. * This Troper cannot stand to look at fashion dummies in stores and stuff. Whenever she sees them, she gets extremely paranoid that they're going to swing their arms to hit her when she walks by. Same reason she adamantly refuses to go anywhere near a wax museum. * This Troper likes to make pixel dolls now and then. For the uninformed, dolling is a type of pixel art where you draw hair, clothing, and accessories on a pre-made base, which is like a bald posed mannequin. Bases can come in any art style; most common being {{Animesque}} and cel-shaded (they usually look something like [[http://hollinesskiss.deviantart.com/art/Zeeva-NA-113928315 this]]), or having realistic, but often still somewhat {{Animesque}}-inspired faces (see [[http://wish04.deviantart.com/art/Anthem-base-96764200 this]] for an exampe). This Troper only ever uses the cel-shaded blatantly {{Animesque}} ones. She's always found the realistic-ish ones to be ''hella'' creepy. Those blank stares... * Am I the only person who thinks that the Na'vi in Avatar were already scary enough with their [[TheBradyBunch Noses that were inspired by throwing a football at the references' faces]] and sometimes rubbery skin ''without'' people photoshopping themselves to look like Na'vi and creating the most hideous thing known to mankind? ** You are not alone. Photoshopped Na'vi give me nightmares (no thanks to people not knowing about lighting, color blending, proper photo editing, etc.). But drawn and stylized ones aren't bad and are just [[PerverseSexualLust fine]] (even drew my own)... Unless some guy thinks a female one needs [[GagBoobs an even larger rack]]. * This Troper met a robot by the name of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrmrU7P-ysA Nexi]]. When Nexi is in a "normal" pose, she falls into the valley, but as soon as she starts emoting, she jumps out. I think the eyebrows help. ** OMG WTF IS THA- Awwwwww, she's adorable! ** The even human sounding voice doesn't hurt anything either. I wouldn't mind seeing robots like that around. * This troper was told by her family much later that the reason why most of my family always gave me a wide berth was because I was this to them. In a family that usually has slightly naturally tan skin, I was as far to the white side as you could get before being classified as albino. While the rest of my family has brown hair and brown eyes,

I had solid black hair and blue eyes. From everyone's accounts, and old pictures I've seen, I looked exactly like a moving porcelain doll. It didn't help that I was unnaturally quiet and reclusive for a child, sitting perfectly quietly and still in corners with my books for hours, causing people to freak out when I actually did move. * This troper STILL looks like the dolls she collects. Add that to above average intelligence, too-big, too-pale blue eyes that tend to jitter about due to loose optic nerves, and very loli features, and you've got yourself a freakshow, friend. Doesn't help that I grew up in [[DeepSouth]]. ** Pics? This troper is curious to how deep in the valley you are. * It is for this reason this troper doesn't like to draw humans in a realistic style - from his experience, when it works, it works ''great'' (like some of the Greek sculptures, some really good artists, etc) but when it doesn't...then it's definitely UncannyValley material. * Megan Fox. Damn the inevitable fanboy wrath. Foul Daemon! Get away! * Warms up gattling gun* * I have a high threshhold for Uncanny Valley, but I will not, under any circumstances, walk by a wall mirror in a dark room. Will. Not. Something about your reflection in a dark mirror is just ''wrong''. ** This troper has had nightmares involving his reflection in a mirror in a dark room. ** Seconded, my sister has a oval shaped mirror on the wall, and her room is very dimly lit, and since she turns off her lamp manually, I have to lean around the corner and feel for the switch while the mirror is RIGHT behind me... thankfully her door opens in and blocks it. * This Troper's friend is severely creeped out by the Vocaloids. While this Troper isn't creeped out by them and find them rather unique, her friend finds their premise and sound quite disturbing. I can see why she would think that. They're computer voices made from recordings of real voices, "singing" by having the different phonetics typed out, pitched, and strung together, trying to sound human... ** [[{{Tropers/Shinykins}} This troper]] can understand how they would be creepy... after all, singing robots meant to sound perfect, until that ''one note'' is out of tune. However, this troper finds it hard to be creeped out when they're singing songs like frickin' Melt or We Are Pop Candy, although [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGThHuZ3lBQ some other songs...]] ** Actually I thought it sounded good, and I liked the song, although at 2:52 I was a bit creeped out, and something about the page is smashing my primal panic button... I think it has to do with the pictures though, since muting the song doesn't help. I actually like the sound, is that weird? * This Troper actually likes collecting things that fall into the UncannyValley. However, the only things she ever has on display are her beloved [[CreepyDoll porcelain dolls]] that she's been collecting since she was five. Said dolls frequently startle visiting friends and relatives, especially if they have to stay in my bedroom while I go sleep in the basement due to lack of a guest bedroom. You're laying there in bed, a cabinet full of dolls right next to your head. The

dolls -ranging from brides, lolitas, Victorian women, and little girls- [[UncannyValley constantly staring at you with their glass, souless eyes and their faces perpetually locked into a single]] [[EmotionlessGirl (or lack of) expression]]. [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel And they continue to stare at you, all night]], [[ParanoiaFuel never stopping, always watching...]] Said guests are lucky I don't display the doll with the SlasherSmile... * Does stuff that resemble bodily fluids or waste in any ways count? No really - anything that looks and/or smells (And by extention since it ''is'' mostly smell, tastes) like a bodily fluid, ''this troper feels nauseous''. Because of how it looks (including the [[{{Squick}} foam]]) and how it smells, this troper ''refuses'' to do anything with 90% of Beer other than KillItWithFire or pour it down the drain. I had a hard time drinking Apple Juice for the first few times, too, same with some Peach Juice. The only thing saving some fruit juices from being UncannyValley is just that I can get a good whiff of them and not be reminded of a kind of bodily fluid. (even as a kid, my mom and nanny had to get me to smell the apple juice so I'd drink it) However, stuff like most red juices...unless it's a kind of Pastel Red, then I think it looks like blood and will have a hard time drinking it. (Some Wines also fall into the UncannyValley this way). And let's not forget...one time mom wanted to split a piece of fudge cake with me and I thought it looked like someone took a shit on the plate. I had to close my eyes, then put it in before I could get my mind to think "It's okay, it's Chocolate." (To this day I avoid those too) Another time I squicked at a Smoothie because I thought it looked like phlegm. And don't even get me ''started'' on those times I had to mentally say "It's food, it's ''supposed'' to look like this" because mom made something that looked like a CalvinAndHobbes meal, and, you guessed it...It looked like vomit. (I still refuse to touch most of those kinds of foods today for that very reason) First time I saw a cassarole, I gagged. Don't also get me started on that thing with marshmallows in it - I thought they looked like teeth and ''still'' haven't tried it!! * This troper isn't affected by many things people would consider "from UncannyValley", having a morbid interest for that kind of thing. Her drawings, while approaching the valley, don't go in it due to her notion of proportions (as in "It doesn't look right") and her use of human-like characters in chibi form. Of course, having a villainous personality allied to perfectionism may be part of the reason... * Being a [[Tropers/AJTheBlackDragon troper and music composer]] who just loves to work with vox sounds and incorporate them into my music, I have to test out my sounds to see if I can make them work how I want. However, this hasn't come without some very creepy and disturbing experiences with various choral and synth produced vox sounds when hammering away to test them on the keyboard. Notes that can't be obtained by humans can produce gutly disgusting gurgly rumbling (lower notes) or horrendous screeching (higher notes) that don't even sound natural nor pleasant. And then there are some people who can't seem to stack their samples properly and you wind up going from on note to another hearing some very unusual sounds... * Speaking of music, has anyone had the experience of listening to a

rendition of a piece that sounds close to how it should sound but really far off for some unexplainable reason? This troper plays the piano and he is too familiar with this experience. Basically, some of his attempts at playing songs sound really wrong while having the notes correct. It sometimes ends up disturbing, especially when the listener knows the piece well. * Do this with your face: [[http://i44.tinypic.com/s3gd4l.png]] You have to sort of pinch your cheeks, but don't hurt yourself. If you've done it right, your lower lip should be level with your upper gums. Then look in the mirror. ** Speaking of this, whenever this Troper makes strange faces in a mirror, if she stays perfectly still for a few moments, she immediately begins to {{squick}} herself out. ** To the person above me, [[SchmuckBait DO NOT EVER go to]] [[http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm ReverseSpeech.com]]. I was on the newspaper staff in high school, and for some reason I can't remember, our main editor went to the site and started playing the sound clips. I have never been able to listen to "Stairway to Heaven" since. * For [[{{Tropers/Kraken17}} this troper]], Zombies. ''Especially if they are not decaying yet''. They can look at first like a normal living person but... something is wrong. ''Very wrong''. ** I think that's exactly WHY zombies are sacry. You're not alone at all. * The picture of MarilynMonroe on EverythingsSparklyWithJewelry jumps right into the valley. ** Eeeek! If that's not a [[StepfordSmiler Stepford Smile]] I don't know what is * [[Tropers/TenderLumpling This troper]] is very short (about five feet, give or take the height of my shoes on any given day) and rather buxom. This tends to freak people out, and when I ask, they say it's because I look disproportionate. ** Take heart fellow troper, I know people shorter than you, and some of them are seniors in high school. You don't squick me out =) * this troper evidently falls into the valley for some, she had major eye surgery when she was a child and as a result her eyes are paralyzed, she cannot move them, so while other people have constant subtle movements in their eyes, this troper moves her entire head, people say she moves her head like a bird ALL THE TIME. * One of this Troper's classmates looks like she crawled straight from the Valley. Her face is too pale and bland without any point, that would capture the eyes. And her hair looks like that it has been borrowed from a doll. And to top that, she's almost skeleton thin. She looks more like those artificial robots rather than a real human. And also, this Troper looks like the resident of the Valley; I have a lot of chest, but my waist is often teeny-tiny because I use corsets, and my hair is sometimes too stringy because I haven't brushed my extensions. Not to mention, I use a lot of makeup what makes my skin sometimes look unnatural and my fingers are too long when compared to my palm. * This troper doesn't like Meat Loaf for this reason: If it looks the same going out as it does going in, and probably even ''tastes'' the

same too...then you really shouldn't eat it. (It looks worse than TwoGirlsOneCup to me.) And for the record? I think chocolate looks kinda like cow turds, too. * [[Tropers/MmmKay This troper]] is usually unfazed by what many people consider "OHCHRISTGETITTHEFECKAWAYFROMMEAUGH!!!" examples of uncanny valley, but sometimes, when it ''does'' faze me, it will also remind me of something. [[http://www.cammyfan.com/news-andreview/arcadia-aug2001.jpg See these eyes?]] Look at [[http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kwJWr_Zk1R8/0.jpg these ones]] and you'll see why they phase me a bit. ** It's like they're just slightly misaligned (pointing in opposite directions). It hurts to look at both those images... * Look, this troper loves Bette Midler, but she cannot look at her face for more than two seconds now. Overdone plastic surgery combined with bleach blonde hair makes her very, very worried. * This troper can smile/grin really widely. Combined with facial shape and pale skin, it creates a natural version of what this troper calls, 'Creepy Clown Face'. Holding this face, wide-eyed and without blinking is her favourite way of freaking people out. So, when in a drama production that required her to make her face very white and her cheeks and eyes very gaunt with stage makeup, she would sneak up on people (both cast members and strangers) with this face, and enjoy watching people get honestly scared by the uncanny valley effect. * This troper has what is referred to by the medical community as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid 'Schizoid Personality Disorder']], a condition which makes me into a living repository for Uncanny Valley. For those too lazy to click the link to {{The other wiki}}, this disorder makes me look as human as anyone else but keeps my emotions at a flat and extremely inhuman degree. When something distressing happens to me, I barely even register it. Emotions come at a distance, like flat and hollow echoes from deep in the depths of my psyche. I'm driven by [[{{strawvulcan}} logic]] and [[{{BlueAndOrangeMorality}} a moral code exclusive to me alone]], making it hard to interact with others. At best this makes me {{The Stoic}}, but I've found I usually come across as [[{{HumanoidAbomination}} something]] [[{{TheyLookJustLikeEveryoneElse}} else]] [[{{DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu}} entirely]]... I'm about six foot four; long and skeletal with protruding, prominent joints; and a long thin face lined in jagged, sharp angles. [[{{LooksLikeCesare}} I don't sleep well (ever), so I have deep, purple bruises beneath deep eyesockets and heavy eyelids]]. Now, imagine this towering over you when you turn around. To humorously elaborate, I was once referred to by a girl as a '{{Bishonen}} Slender Man with a face', which is a most confusing statement. Tell me, is that a compliment or an insult? ** Dude...most men out here would consider schizoid and StrawVulcan emotions a ''strength''. Most men out here see some others as UncannyValley but guess why? They haven't erased all emotions except anger and blandness - ''that'''s why they appear wrong to the men out here. ** [[Tropers/TheAtroxious This Troper]] finds that description [[NightmareFetishist incredibly attractive]]. She also really, really

wishes you lived in the same area as her because she herself is [[TheSociopath rather]] [[TheWonka strange]] in terms of personality and morals, and so [[LonersAreFreaks has few friends]]. And for the first time in her life, she wishes that TVTropes was a dating site. * This troper is unnerved by awful English and bad animation. The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKIE5t6ykM combination]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxHNztg0X3s of]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=028yDv0B2bs&feature=fvw both]] is her [[NightmareFuel ULTIMATE NIGHTMARE]]. ** This Troper could not stop laughing at the Mickey Mouse thing for about three minutes, but the second she did, it became {{High Octane Nightmare Fuel}} * I find hentai extremely scary not so much because of the beach ball sized tits the girls all have but because the vacant expressions on their faces. ** You can find hentai better than that, at this day and age. * This troper was dissecting a fetal pig for school; the way it looked in the tray did not quite seem like a real pig, but it was. It was too still and it looked almost like it was made out of rubber, and its closed eyes! That image is still haunting to this troper. Ugh. * This troper is a [[{{Pale Skinned Brunette}}Pale-Skinned Brunette]] with some serious problems when it comes to social interaction. As a young child, this troper was the epitome of a [[{{Creepy Child}} creepy little doll-girl-thing]] with black hair, blue eyes, dead-white skin and the inability to communicate normally with another human being. Add an early love of all things messed-up and above-average intelligence and some teachers literally backed away. * Am I the only one who thinks some of {{Norman Rockwell}}'s art falls into this? * This Troper was the only person in her family who was ''not'' freaked out by the realism of the characters in ThePolarExpress. Well, this Troper and her brother-in-law, who used to be a CGI animator, and could only talk about how awesome he thought it was. I still don't understand why ''The Polar Express'' crosses into the Uncanny Valley for most people. If those uber-realistic models had been poorly animated, then I would have been freaked out, but they used the most advanced motion capture technology they had at the time, and to me, the result was spectacular. And all that [[{{SceneryPorn}} beautifully-rendered scenery]] and the [[{{CrowningMusicOfAwesome}} festive soundtrack]] didn't hurt. * This troper can't watch ''[[Disney/PeterPan Return to Neverland]]'' without being creeped out by how realistic Peter looks at one point, when he tells Tinkerbell that Jane will have to stay with them if she isn't able to fly back home. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzGcbwW7Wf8 It's around 3:26.]] * This troper finds it weird that so many people are creeped out by ball-jointed dolls. And it even doesn't have anything to do with me being a bit of a NightmareFetishist. [[SincerityMode They're so pretty!]] However, a few dolls, American Girl dolls most of all, scare the living crap out of me. There's just something about the way their faces are proportioned that looks so ''wrong''. ** And as a more personal anecdote, there's [[CreepyDoll Emily]], a

porcelain doll my grandmother once owned. For one thing, she was [[EyeScream missing an eye]]. She would just sit there in her lacy lavender [[ElegantGothicLolita lolita dress]] with her weirdlyproportioned face and her one empty eye socket and ''[[HighOctaneNightmareFuel oh god]]''. If that wasn't bad enough, my dad would talk about when he was my age, he would come home some nights [[ParanoiaFuel and Emily would be sitting on a rocking chair in the foyer, half in shadow, just]] ''[[ParanoiaFuel staring.]]'' * This troper, thanks to being extremely pale and having dark brownish/blackish hair and having very big green eyes seems to cause this to some people. It doesn't help that I'm small and thin. It's especially bad in the dark when it exaggerates all of these qualities. I can really freak other people (and myself) out when it's dark and I do a certain creepy smile, which supposedly has caused nightmares for my friends. But it's hilarious for when I get my picture taken. * The picture on MakingASpectacleOfYourself... * This Troper tends to avoid retirement homes whenever possible, because the atmosphere is unsettling. It's quiet, even when the room is filled with people. Some elderly people will give you a blank stare like there's nothing but emptiness and monotony in their lives anymore. When you talk to some of the more... mentally checked-out patients, that their mind is starting to fail with age becomes disturbingly clear. And do not even get me started on the [[TearJerker Alzheimer's]] [[DespairEventHorizon ward.]] * Right after watching The Last Airbender, I had to turn to my friend and ask her a question that had been bothering me through the whole movie; "Is it just me or did Appa look like he just crawled out of the ninth level of hell?" ** ''He has a human face oh god why does he have a human face.'' * AmusingInjuries in cartoons are funny. However, when cartoonish slapstick violence is translated into live action, this troper finds it just a tad bit...unsettling. Oh, don't get me wrong, I've grown up with a bunch of live-action kids movies that rely heavily on slapstick (the HomeAlone series, Film/MouseHunt, etc) and still managed to enjoy them, but I still must admit that seeing ''real people'' getting hurt in the same way as cartoon characters always felt a bit...off. This is probably one of the many reasons [[WhoFramedRogerRabbit Judge Doom]] is so terrifying, he basically takes this UpToEleven. * [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53jGRzzdqxc The guy from Brooklyn in this video]]. ''The human mouth SHOULD NOT MOVE LIKE THAT!!!'' * When [[Tropers.EctoplasmCookie this troper]] was nine, there was an exhibit on the Black Plague at her local museum. It was all fine and dandy until she wandered into one room; a tiny, dark, converted broom closet with a large mannequin dressed as a Plague Doctor. It was backlit with eerie red lights and this troper was [[AloneWithThePsycho ALL ALONE]]. Then the door shut behind her. She turned her back on the mannequin to re-open the door and stepped back as she turned, moving closer to it. Suddenly she felt something touch her shoulder. She looked up and saw the plague doctor moving jerkily, reaching out and [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel LOOKING AT HER]]. Cue screams of terror and fleeing from the room like a bat out of hell. It turns out it was an animatronic robot, but this troper certainly didn't know that at the

time. She managed to repress the memory until recently, when she saw a documentary on the Black Death. Now she keeps thinking she feels the doctor touching her shoulder and her childhood fear of the dark has come back full-force * shudder* * For [[{{Tropers.Bergil}} This Troper]], even people with piercings or cosmetics fall into the valley. Oddly, hair dyed impossible colours doesn't. * My Korean girlfriend once told me she thinks Asian people invoke the Uncanny Valley for every other race. ** No, it's pretty much [[FetishFuel the opposite...]] ** She might be onto something, considering the reactions people have had to [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090529182825/uncyclopedia/im ages/7/7e/DIchen.Lachman.001.jpg the face]] of DichenLachman (though she is only half-Asian, her features are [[{{Understatement}} uniquelooking]]). Personally, I think she's one of the hottest things I've ever seen, but I've heard people say she [[UnfortunateImplications looks like a mangled lion]]. * This troper agrees with you. Wow... * Ever since she was young, this Troper has had a fear of people with beaks, or beak-like features. The [[HighOctaneNighmareFuel Plague Doctor]] is a prime example of the deepest depths of Uncanny Valley. A strange, faceless, emotionless human with the beak of a bird. For this Troper, he's the Trope Incarnate. * This Troper's first real encounter with the valley came from a issue of People Magazine, what was supposed to be a heartwarming feature story about a Mom who lost half her face from a shot gun accident getting a prospetic replacement mask for her missing Nose and Eyes area, turned into something else for this troper, she did it for her son so he could see mommys face, but the results where less heartwarming and more Unnerving, the prospectic doesn't excatly cover the entire area, so a unatatural ridge rests between fake and real, and the realistic eyes where staring in one direction, this troper takes pity on her son once he gets older and realises mommy never blinks, he's going to have nightmares for life. * [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCJb01FxV0o These]] 1990 NBC saturday morning cartoon bumpers fall squarely into this category, some ( such as the clay one) border on {{Nightmare Fuel}} for me. It's just the trippiness, the giant mouth, and that creepy voice that says "we'll be bacK!" is almost threatening. I didn't grow up in the early 1990's, but I watched tapes of [[Captain N: The Game Master]] that had these. Anyone who watched Saturday Morning cartoons on NBC in the early 90s ever find these creepy? Or am I just odd? ** You're not odd, I can see why you would find them creepy. But I grew up in the 1990s and this was a pretty popular style in cartoons, so it just makes me nostalgic. The guy's chirpy little voice is funny, too. * Anything and everything in [[http://www.madametussauds.com/ Madam Tussaud's Wax Museum]]. Holy. ''Fuck''. Especially [[http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20100623&t=2&i=137442698& w=300&fh=300&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=2010-0623T191644Z_01_BTRE65M1HK500_RTROPTP_0_USA the Michael Jackson

figure]]. ** This Troper (I) enjoys going to Madame Tussauds and has a lot of fun posing with the celebrity figures, but what gets to me are the figures that illustrate the sculpting process, a wax figure of the artist sculpting the wax figure. Those are almost surreal in that the artist appears to be a random guy you could meet on the street (as opposed to celebrities or historical figures) but yet, there is a figure of him. [[http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-aksnc4/hs379.snc4/44183_448750752121_634852121_5100292_5310746_n.jpg See here]]. ** this Troper's teacher took her baby son to Madame Tussauds. Her telling of how her son din't know they weren't real and tried to play with them made the class laugh ... and in the back this troper was making a Squick face. * [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080330054557/memoryalpha/en/ images/1/1a/Phlox_face.jpg This]] really creeps this troper out. It's just wrong. Damn you, [[StarTrekEnterprise Phlox]], no wonder those guys ran away when you did it. It's not much fun when you do [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080811035140/memoryalpha/en/ images/b/bf/Phlox_grinning.jpg this]], either... ** YourMileageMayVary: this troper thinks those photos are fantastic {{Narm}}y NightmareRetardant. * This troper has three: ** Models who have been Photoshopped to appear plastic. There's nothing wrong with clear, zit-free skin, but when you've airbrushed out every pore and wrinkle, and all the little blood vessels in the corner of the eye, it stops looking human and starts looking like an eerily life-like porcelain doll. ''Creepy.'' ** Artificial dog limbs used in movies. For example, take AirBud and CatsVersusDogs. When Buddy puts a paw into the center of the basketball team's hand circle, they didn't train a Golden Retriever to stick his foot up there; they used a furry plastic limb. And when Peek the Chinese Crested is "typing" on a computer, instead of teaching the dog to poke at colorful buttons (which is really all they're doing anyway; there's [[HollywoodHacking no semblance of actual typing]] going on), they just have a pair of plastic feet moved by a human. The trouble lies in the fact that these artificial limbs have ''no joints whatsoever'' in them, so the limb doesn't have all the little wibbles that a natural dog's leg would, and then the foot is often posed in a half-extended, half-flexed position that would ''never'' happen if a dog naturally picked up its leg. The fact that the limb doesn't move, coupled with the fact that ''it's supposed to be a real leg, not a decent replacement for a lost limb'' just creeps her out (interestingly, actual prostheses attached to an otherwise-normal body are not creepy; it's obvious that the limb was lost and they're just making the best of it). ** ''Babies''. Call this troper a ChildHater, but there's just something ''wrong'' with them. Their noses are all smushed, and their mouths are strangely shaped, and their limbs are all out of proportion to their bodies, and they make these ''awful noises'' (infant crying is totally different from adult crying, but, at least to this troper,

suspiciously similar to infant ''laughter''). Then they start walking, and it's this arms-flailing, bow-legged, paddle-footed gait that might be kinda cute on a duck but is utterly ''creepy'' given their human limbs. And the rest of the world finds them ''cute''? This troper is disturbed. *** This troper agrees as well. Worse is their inane yelling and screaming that mocks language and their seeming ability to just ''stare'' at you for what feels like an eternity... *shiver*. This troper is very rarely affected by the Uncanny Valley, even Zombies don't quite register for me... Is there something wrong with me? *** After you have a baby relative this won't effect you, I had a baby bro born in 2004. Although admittedly I don't think babies are creepy to begin with, excepting the occasional ugly baby I see the odd couple sporting * This troper is creeped out by those advertisements for weight loss that pop up on random sites- you know, the one with a drawing of a chubby woman who shrinks down to thinner sizes? It's not ''right'', especially when they jump back to fat and start over again. And ItGotWorse when I saw one (the doll is wearing a black bikini) who had STITCHES for no good reason on her neck and joints. Thanks to that one, I have nightmares where the ads are really dead bodies being inflated with a bicycle pump by some serial killer. [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel Auuuuugh.]] * The [[{{Film/Avatar}} Na'vi]] were definitely uncanny, so much it broke my WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief. So these are ''completely'' different life forms, they're sentient...they have their own tribal structure, huh? Well that's ''really'' a coincidence that the Na'vi somehow ''also'' have western body structure in addition to western body language. I can at ''least'' assume that the Klingons in ''StarTrek'' or the aliens in a lot of other sci-fi series were all "Oh hey, these aliens have been with us for so long, it just helps to use their body language style". But ''Na'vi''?!? These are supposed to be like, within first contact and yet they look and act ''so much like humans'', albeit with broken noses, latex rubber in place of skin, and excuse features. Pretty much something I think should be better off ''written''...that way I don't have to look at those hideous creatures! ** I second you all the way about the Na'vi. I love aliens, but they were way too much human for me. And look at a closeup of their face for a second -Absolutely creepy! * My boyfriend had this reaction to SummerGlau in ''{{Film/Serenity}}'' because, for some reason, her eyes look [[PuppyDogEyes disproportionately large]] in some shots. I, on the other hand, had a [[PerverseSexualLust very different reaction]]. * This troper cannot stand lifeless dolls. She had a rabbit-doll once without a face, could not stand it, and made her mom stitch in a face. I mean, seriously, they are creepy. Just [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tbm_DJV7QgM/Su7c2dN3F9I/AAAAAAAAAJ0/yGFosH zQ1nI/s320/bibrir.JPG look]] at [[http://www.rhapsodydolls.com/photos/CountryCatA.JPG these]] [[http://www.travel-images.com/pht/dominican226.jpg dolls]] * This male Troper did a vocal impression of the Joker, and also of

Harley Quinn, the latter achieved with some voice editing. A friend said knowing that it was really my voice made it uncanny valley for him. ** Same troper attempted a largely unsuccessful action figure customization, turning Cyclops into Jean Grey. I used clay to sculpt boobs, butt and hair, and painted over the eyes and lips. It ended up looking like Cyclops in drag. The one redeeming feature were the very feminine hands that the Cyclops figure had to begin with. * [[{{Mysteria}} This troper]] will like to comment no how badly this page has been abused and then submit my own experiences of this trope. For me it is not just things that are meant to mimic humans that give me the creeps, robotic and CGI animals also do it for me, I find it quite hard to find an actual example of what 'does' it for me, but know I'm not alone, becuase I've often seen people (on youtube) comment on animal robots as being 'creepy.' ** Also a freind at school had a problem with his eyes which meant they couldn't contract and dilate properly, which meant either his pupils were too small like he was staring at you with sheer loathing or they were too big like he was drugged or giving you a rapeface. * This troper finds live action Blu-ray movies to fall straight into the uncanny valley, making the whole thing look more like a school play than a movie. * This troper is surprised Furbies haven't been mentioned sooner. Just the way those little... THINGS... look. Plus once the batteries start dying, and they start sounding awfully demonic... GAH. * This troper is creeped out by the dolls in the ads for "My American Girl," which is this thing where you buy an American Girl doll and create an online version of her. I think the dolls in real life are pretty, but the corresponding virtual images of the dolls just look...wrong. If the producers of American Girl were trying to make the virtual dolls look as close as possible to the real ones, they did their job too well - the eyes are huge and too close together. Eee. * One day this troper was walking around the mall and stumbled upon [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFJhB7lNdlc&feature=related a whole kiosk filled with Perfect Petzzz]] Many people find them cute, but this troper is a bit unnerved by how realistic the puppies/kittens are and by the fact that the only thing they do is sleep as if they were in a drug-induced coma. * This troper's closest friends find him to epitomise this. I am freakishly tall, thin enough to make people think I'm anorexic, pale enough to make people think I'm dead when I'm asleep, I don't smile a lot and when I do it's unfathomably creepy, I have a REALLY dark sense of humour, I am really quiet, I laugh like the maniac I am, I walk almost completely silently, I occasionally cough uncontrollably , I'm schizophrenic, I have bi-polar disorder, I wear almost all black, I have long spidery fingers and long nails, my arms and legs are long and spindly, I am freakishly gifted and remember tons of unimportant or insignificant things for years, (the non creepy stuff) my hair is auburn but my eyebrows are dark brown, and I have blue eyes. ** This troper can relate to you to an extent. While she isn't schizophrenic or bi-polar she is tall, thin, and possessing a twisted sense of humor. I'm also extremely quiet around those I don't know

very well and my voice seems to fade to a whisper around people besides friends and family. Usually I bring a book whenever I'm around someone else. But I have a friends who I eat lunch with at school occasionally and one day I forgot a book. Because I couldn't think of anything to say, all I could do was sit stock-still and stare into space. One guy at the table then pointed out how eerily quiet I was. Hence I make sure to have something to do now. * Portrayals of the 1950s do it for this troper. In fact, she finds the 50's-era PSA shorts on MST3K (especially [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hh4M4vipAo this one]]) MUCH creepier than most of the actual horror movies on the show. * This Troper collects dolls, loves even the ones with missing eyes and crazed composition (flaking or cracked "skin"), and has been told that she herself resembles a living porcelain doll. What finally invoked this for her was one of her senior photos; in the process of Photoshopping out dark circles under her eyes, the photographer had gone overboard. Troper's lower eyelids had little or no distinction, making her large-ish eyes look smaller and, more importantly, flush with her cheeks. The final product resembled some kind of anime character's eyes cut-and-pasted onto a human face. Brrr... * I always worry about whether I fall into the UncannyValley and because of this I feel very nervous of giving people eye contact in case I am staring at them and creeping them out. The UncannyValley doesnt bother me much though, except for one nightmare I had a few nights ago, with things that were a cross between really realistic dolls and the children that do the beauty pageants in adult make up. In this nightmare they were created by a woman who was a teacher and turned the naughty children in the class into zombie like things which looked like realistic dead children but moved like robots, and she made them do these shows on a stage and it was really creepy. * A girl in my school is THIS. She uses spray-on tans to give her completely evenly (and unnaturally) colored, (if that makes any sense),skin. It looks like the plastic skin of a doll. She uses a lot of makeup, with also makes her eyelashes stick out really strangely, and her eyes are always opened just a little too wide. Add a [[SlasherSmile disturbing-looking smile]] and fake-sounding, robotic laughter even by teen girl standards, and you have a seriously creepy girl. The funny thing is, she's super-popular and "hot". In theory, she's attractive, but she just looks... off to me. * Normally, This Troper find uncanny valleys to be horrifying, absurd, or outright eldritch to the point that upon encountering [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow these things I was not meant to know]], I would see such terrifying vistas of humanity that I would {{go mad from the revelation}} and be left with a [[HeroicBSOD mental paralysis]] with howling laughter. However, some objects out of the uncanny valley, like anime (as in 2d anime and not kigurumi, since upon witnessing those figures in movement due to me being an idiot and searching for their videos, I cannot bear to never look upon) and female robots/sex dolls, actually make it out of my uncanny valley perception, IfYouKnowWhatIMean. * Visually, [[@/SoWeAteThem I'm]] not all that affected by the UncannyValley visually. I have stumbled upon, among other things, a

bevy of Magaret Keane paintings, the works of RobLiefeld, and two real-life people whose waists were thinner that 7-inch singles, and I did not flinch. Aurally, that's another thing. I'm not talking vocaloids here, they don't faze me in the least, but there are some things... Case in point: The pitch-shifted sample looped on [[http://rdcrec.bandcamp.com/track/chinkonka CDR's "Chinkonka]] make the song reminiscent of a ghostly child raising hell at a research facility, and the singers on [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO5TXkkJD3g Intestinal Disgorge's "Rectum Grinder"]] initially sounded to me as if they were being anally raped by Satan. And ChrisBrown's "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dp5Bv3kA2A I. Y. A.]] terrifies the living fuck out of me--the less said about that hack autotune job, the better. * On this very wiki, the image for the page {{Gainaxing}}. [[ThisIsSparta THAT! IS! WRONG!]]. * This troper had the horrifying revelation that all anime characters practically exist in the Uncanny Valley ''while fapping to hentai''. [[IGotBetter The moment passed, though.]] ** Thanks for sharing. ** I could've lived a long happy life without knowing that... * There is a teacher's assistant at this troper's school who dwells in the Uncanny Valley. She is stunningly pretty, but there is something piercing and unreal about her face. * When this troper first saw the Pokemon Tympole, she wasn't all that affected. Then she played a rom of White, and it hit her that its face was the same color that they use for white people. So, for a while, I was creeped out that the thing looked like someone tore off someone's face and stuck it onto the thing. Same for Palpitoad. I'm over it now, but still, the creeps I got when I first saw it... *shiver* * For a Skype-based RPG campaign, this troper uses a voice changer to make his voice sound like his character's. His character is a warm alto; he's a deep baritone, about the same as the actor who voiced Panthro on ThunderCats. A new player in the game was profoundly disturbed by the contrast between the two. * For this troper, possums and armadillos fall squarely into this. Watching them move, every bit of my body screams "THIS THING SHOULD NOT EXIST!". * This troper is an amateur CG artist, and as such, encounters the Uncanny Valley a lot. Due to this, he moslty doesn't make humans, and only uses humanoid characteristics for [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch abominations]]. It works pretty well when he does that, though. * [[Tropers/ElodieHiras I]] really don't understand why girls coming straight from the uncanny valley can be elected as Miss France. They are [[HollywoodThin obviously way too skinny]], there is obviously something wrong with them. And yet, people from my country find them the most beautiful girls ever. FanDisservice and/or FetishRetardant at its finest. * The female member of Die Antwoord ( a really weird South African hip hop group) is an adult but she looks like a 9 year old with big boobs and it doesn't help that she acts rather sexual in the band's music videos.

* The kid on the page of AnimationAgeGhetto has always creeped me out. ** He looks like he's coming on to us... * A friend of mine did a year abroad in South Korea. She has alabaster skin, vibrant red hair and big blue eyes. One day when she was sitting in a park, a small Korean child went up to her, curious and confused, and was apparently convinced my friend was not a real person. For the child, my friend looked unlike any human he had ever seen before. ** This has to be some kind of creepy coincidence, as this troper, a South Korean, when he was little, had a family vacation in France... When he first saw a white person, (no doubt in her blonde hair and white skin) fled in terror, screaming "Mommy! That doll is alive!" * This troper usually finds [[{{Bishonen}} bishonens]] to be borderline Uncanny. * This troper was watching a show on primordial dwarfism. This episode was focusing specifically on this [[http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolecho/oct2008/8/0/055655AE -D00B-C1D3-B930D6795873396D.jpg girl]] [[http://www.pharmacyescrow.com/blog/wpcontent/uploads/2010/07/Primordial-Dwarfism.jpg named]] [[http://i.thisis.co.uk/275561/article/images/2339681/1636371.jpg Charlotte]] who was a couple years old. She looks like a doll, and even the way she moved at times looked...artificial, like she was animatronic. It was weird at first and almost kind-of scary, but after awhile she grew on me. * The people in [[{{Minecraft}} Minecraft]]. God, I HATE it when I'm going about my business mining in SMP and then, BAM! [[{{ParanoiaFuel}} Blocky, off color, death-stare clone of myself staring eerily into my face.]] ** In fact, ANYTHING alive in Minecraft. * This already rather doll-like troper is pretty sure the Uncanny Valley is the reason her mother reacted so badly when she came back from college one break with cranberry-red hair and bright green "circle lenses" (that is, contact lenses designed to make eyes appear larger than natural). * This Troper can't stand people wearing fake fangs or unnaturally colored contact lenses. Especially the colored lenses. Her friend posted a cosplay photo on DeviantART where she had bright yellow lenses in, and it freaked this troper out so much that she couldn't look at her friend's page until the scary yellow eyes were buried deep in her gallery and not on the front page. * This Troper finds his [[https://fbcdn-profilea.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/174603_127705933965443_1570631_n.jpg local meteorologist]] to be UncannyValley. He suspects that the "man" is really some sort of HumanoidAbomination. * This Troper has difficulty understanding what facial expression is on her face at any given time. This means that she quite often thinks her face is appropriate for the situation, when in fact it is anything but. On an entirely unrelated note, reflections fall into this for her. She knows on an intellectual level that what is viewed in the mirror is simply her reflection, but still views it as a separate being, somehow. When she was smaller, she viewed her shadow in a similar manner.

* [[{{Tropers/CrystalGlacia}} I]] have Asperger's Syndrome, and I am one of only about five Asians in my entire school. I was also the first Chinese adoptee in my area (which means there were few to no Asians in town). My mom theorized that the other children instinctively stayed away from me when I was in preschool and kindergarten because of my Asperger's and this trope, since people of races that you've never actually seen before look inherently creepy. My mom has also said that I don't show emotion in my voice, and that I occasionally do things and have habits that could be seen as weird by other people. Alright, enough talk about why I may fall into this trope; I myself don't actually find most of the stuff on this page that scary. There is one thing that freaks me out, though. It's when a person's eyes are spaced too far apart on their face. It reminds me of a fish, and it just sends off alarm bells in my head. ** Something else that [[{{Tropers/CrystalGlacia}} I've]] noticed that may be linked to this trope is that when I write, I try to visualize my characters doing stuff in real life, and I can only seem to visualize my Asian characters properly. If I try to do the same with my Caucasian or Middle Eastern characters, they come out with Asian features. I'm not trying to seem racist, but I wonder if that may be linked to this trope. * One word: {{Hermaphrodite}}. * I use to have these Victorian dolls as a kid. They were glass dolls, so all I could really do was look at them on my shelf, but I loved them. Until one night, I woke up and my eyes came across those dolls displayed on my shelf, staring back at me with this blank expression on their faces. I don't know what went through me at that moment, but I just had this weird, unsettling feeling when I was looking at them (maybe because I thought one of their eye-lids moved on their own) and I had a hard time going back to sleep after that. I guess that's when I grew out of dolls. ** And what's even worse is when people mold little people into the form of dolls - I'm talking about child beauty pageants. * Am I the only one here creeped out by the [[HiveMind Delightful]] [[CreepyChild Children]] from CodenameKidsNextDoor? They always seemed so UncannyValley to this troper, even with the show's cartoony style. (Though this might have [[InvokedTrope been intentional.]]) * This troper never gets the Uncanny Valley feeling. Literally. After reading through every page on it and following every link, she doesn't understand it. The girl on the Real Life section who got surgery to make herself look like an anime girl? Aww, she's adorable. Mannequins? No problems there. Real Dolls? Not creepy. Isabelle Dinoire? That's so cool! ** On a side note, this same troper (who happens to have Asperger's) apparently fall into this sometimes, especially when she concentrates on something and tunes everything else out, or doesn't react to things, or doesn't have facial expressions that last for anything longer than a twentieth of a second. * People who constantly baby-talk, or constantly use cartoony facial expressions are pretty deep in the valley for this troper. * It was 1996. Polygons were on their way in for console games. ''ResidentEvil'' was one of the prominent polygonal games of its time.

As an [[PrimalFear arachnophobe]], I disliked the spiders in the game on principal. As the years passed, though, these polygonal horror games became harder and harder to take seriously, as the Playstation's limited capabilities made everything look like they were made out of Triscuits or something. As we saw in the ''ResidentEvil'' remake for the GameCube, it could be [[ItGotWorse much, much worse]]. The graphics for that game are still gorgeous in fact, so much so that it's hard to imagine them being much more realistic, probably very close to how Jill and Chris would have seen them in RealLife. The spiders in the 1996 version went from having a strangely peppy, tigeresque color scheme (mainly yellow, with black-striped legs) to a more realistic, grey pattern based on an actual spider specie in the GameCube version. The Black Tiger boss didn't change much, though. * This tropette has three garbage bags[[hottip:*: 2 large orange bags and 1 medium black bag to be precise.]] worth of stuffed animals and a few dolls! * This troper goes into a quiet fit whenever she watches cartoons where mad scientists use de-evolution rays to turn modern day lizards into stock dinosaurs such as t-rex. * This troper and her twin sister (who are both avid cat lovers) used to volunteer at Pets-mart taking care of the abandoned or stray cats each weekday. It was fun and in spite of a few scratches and bad first meetings, most of the cats were okay. Except one. And her name was Ophelia. She was like an especially vicious attack dog born in cat form. Whenever someone got close to her cage, she didn't just swipe her paws and hiss in self defense, she RUNS RIGHT UP TO THE FRONT AND TRIES TO ATTACK THROUGH THE BARS, SCREAMING LIKE A HELLSPAWN! It got so bad some began to consider putting her down. To this day this troper always wondered what happened to Ophelia. Despite the hell she gave her, she hopes she found a kind owner willing to tolerate her and perhaps bring her on the path to sociability. * A lot of my friends on DeviantArt are like this-- for a year or two, they're wobbly, and then they start turning out art that I can't manage within triple the time they take.

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UncannyValleyMakeup * When this troper was Loby in The Visit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Visit ), she wore makeup that made her look like her eyes were just irises in empty sockets. It was incredibly creepy looking and This Troper as well as the actress playing Koby had a little too much fun scaring the crap out of the rest of the cast backstage. * This troper's highschool musical was a ham-and-cheese extravaganza set in a high school. The female lead had makeup like this, with green eyeshadow up to the eyebrows, red lipstick and red cheek-circles like a doll. Every time the girl came out of the makeup room and said "Is this enough?" the director would exclaim "No! More!" and send her

back. * All makeup as far as this troper is concerned It's unnecessary and ironiclly counter-productive to it's intent it does not make women more attractive it makes them more terrifying yet it's always explained by women as a necessary thing with such memorable quotes as "you wouldn't want to see your woman without her makeup on" YES I WOULD as would anyone who isn't a clown fetishist (no offense intended to clown fetishists) I perfer my women like I do my coffee Not EdlritchAbominations. * Do it on purpose, every day. * When I was in Middle School, I did this the first time I wore eyeliner. It looked disgusting. To make matters worse, I strutted up to my crush that day, and blatantly said "Hey Caleb! You know I'm wearing eyeliner!" He gave me a gross look and responded "Yeah." Another incident was at our school dance where I glittered up my eyes and ''smothered'' my lids in eyeshadow. '''''Blue eyeshadow'''''.

UncomfortableElevatorMoment * This troper's sociology professor used to advocate breaking elevator protocol by encouraging his students to turn around and face the other people in the elevator, or [[CloudCuckooLander start having an audible whispered conversation with your backpack]]... * This one time, my friends and [[{{nekoalexa}} I]] were at this regionals competition. We decided to use the elevator instead of the stairs to get to our rooms at the campgrounds. Well, when we got in, one of the guys decided he would pull a "Christmas Tree" with the buttons, like in Elf. When the elevator finally stopped moving, we ended up in the basement. Cue this [[GrumpyOldMan grumpy old guy]] who worked there just standing there giving us the evil eye. The same guy who pressed the buttons pressed only ''one'' button, as the old guy just sat there and watched us. As uncomfortable as it was, as soon as we got to our floor, we all just burst out laughing. * [[EpitomeORandom This troper]] was in Germany with a (male) friend and whilst riding up the lift to their room, we were so excited we were jumping around and laughing our heads off. The elevator stopped and a conservative couple got on, gave us the ''dirtiest'' looks and faced the doors. We proceeded to be as inappropriate as possible. * [[Tropers/TeraChimera I]] was once in a hotel, and going to the pool to swim, so I had on my swimsuit when I got into the elevator. Along with the janitor and a twelve-or-so-year-old girl in pajamas. You can't get much more eclectic than that. * This troper was in a hotel in Benidorm. On the second-to-last day there was a thing with a thing, that ended with me and my boyfriend dumping each other over the phone. Crying quietly, in my swimsuit, dripping wet, I stood there whilst all these people got in and out, until these two people in costumes (I never asked) got in. I just started laughing. * Me and my friends where at a theater in Northern California for a production of Romeo and Juliet. Cue eight of us getting into the elevator at our hotel in costume and standing around the perimeter, facing the wall, for an hour. It scared the dickens out of people. For

another performance, we were looking through the costume trunk and we found a bunch of superhero costumes. We all got on different elevators and came down to the lobby. We all get out, group together, and strike a pose.

UnconventionalLearningExperience Talk about the things that snuck some edumacation into your brain when you weren't expecting it ''here'', not on the main page. ---* After many hundreds of hours worth of lockpicking minigames I eventually worked out how cylinder locks worked. - @/{{Bisected8}} * Thanks to Pacman (and my super awesome math teacher) I'll never get the inequality signs > or < mixed up again, I just point the bigger end towards the bigger number because Pacman likes to eat the bigger number! * Playing {{Diablo}} managed to teach this troper prefixes and suffexes, rendering an entire month of classes irrelavent. I also learned math from {{CommandandConquer}} . * When I had finally gotten far enough into my [[PokemonRubyAndSapphire Pokemon Ruby]] game data that I could get the Regis, I ended up learning some Braille. Go me! On another note, while playing my first Pokemon Game ever (Fire Red), I soon learned a little bit about DNA and things like that. Further studies on my favorite Pokemon such as Deoxys and the like taught me quite a few things about DNA and viruses that I won't forget anytime soon. Lastly, Assigning the Greek Gods to Pokegods helped me get through the mandatory studies of TheOdyssey (plus the actual Trope Page for that particular work helped a ton). * This freakin' site has taught me more about history, language, and how cultures other than my own perceive the world than just about any school class I can recall attending. The WorstAid page and those related to it have taught me what not to do in an emergency. I have a better understanding of how people think and work, since LifeImitatesArt and if you spend enough time here you'll eventually learn ''a lot'' about how the latter works. Thanks, TvTropes! * What little Japanese I know I learned from anime. I also learned a bit about Renaissance history by playing AssassinsCreedII, although as I was in fact ''doing'' Renaissance history when I first got the game it dovetailed nicely. * This troper's parents encouraged video games such as Age of Empires due to the history behind it, but also surprisingly grotesque books such as Final Exit For {{Barney}} due to the recent history you could learn. This troper has confused teachers by recognizing references such as Loreena Bobbit, Three Mile Island, and Pintos when she was in elementary/middle school. * This troper gets a good chunk of her news from ScandinaviaAndTheWorld.

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* ThisTroper has been in ''Vampire'' games where the vampires were always complaining that becoming immortal superhumans had [[BlessedWithSuck drastically shortened their (un?)lifespans]]. *Subverted with this troper's roleplay character. Following the loss of his wife to another man, he attempted suicide (being essentially a lich/sepulchral thief by this point) several times with his numerous weapons, including flintlock pistols, demonic weapons, spiked chains, magic, etc. He just couldn't die. Eventually when I left WoW I had to drop a bridge on him in the form of a laboratory explosion, but it's highly implied that he either changed dimensions, ascended to something else, escaped and is in hiding, {{exalted}} or all of the above. ---Go back to UndeathAlwaysEnds. ----

Understatement * [[LatwPIAT This troper]] occasionally indulges in this. I've described WorldWarII as a "minor European conflict", the ColdWar as a "slight political disagreement" and a plethora of other occasions. It must be my British heritage. * [[PigCatapult This troper]] has gotten in trouble before for her habitual tendency for extreme understatement. Apparently, it has a tendency to offend folks. ** So, I assume you really mean "cause them to leap at you in berserker rage". ** Isn't "extreme understatement" an oxymoron? * [[KillerClowns This troper]] has found out the hard way that understatement is harder on-line, and has taken to linking particularly heinous understatements (e.g. "[[PlanescapeTorment Ignus]] [[AxCrazy has]] [[OmnicidalManiac a]] [[PyroManiac few]] [[KillItWithFire issues]]," or "[[VideoGame/PaperMario Count Bleck]] is [[OmnicidalManiac a bit more ambitious]] than [[HarmlessVillain Bowser]].") to the [[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/understatement Wikitionary article on the word "understatement"]] or the appropriate article on [[{{Main}} this very wiki]]. ** It's not harder online; you're using more obscure references that people might not understand. But the links help. * This troper is in a history class. A slide of Hitler and Mussolini comes up. My reaction? "Boy what losers" * [[SelfDemonstratingArticle I do this a bit]]. ** [[TakeThat That's a little unspecific]]. * [[{{Lilacheart}} This troper]] does this occasionally, particularly when reading or writing. For example, in fiction, if a person's entire family dies, their school blows up, and they get maimed by several different bad guys, and even if it's worse, the only thing she'll say about it is "Wow, his/her life sucks." * "Michael Phelps is a pretty good swimmer". * "Diabetes stinks". ** Tru dat mutha *blows up* * This troper, after telling the Aristocrats joke in mixed company:

"Oh, I should warn you, I can be a little on the risqu side. Just a bit." ** You said this AFTER telling the joke? * Combined with a [[DeadpanSnarker deadpan]] presentation, understatements are everywhere. "Jesus was a nice guy" comes to mind. * I love hot and spicy food, so when you hear me say "it's a bit spicy", it means: "it's so hot that a normal person's mouth would fall off". * After watching the news, this Troper and his father would sum up several horrific and disastrous events with a simple: "Oh...that might be a problem." * This troper was once described as a fascist communist sympathiser after he described the DPRK as "not very democratic." * [[{{Illusionist}} This troper]] has a bit of a preference for this. Where others would say "good", he says "not half-bad". ** Isn't that called... [[{{Take That}} being]] [[{{French Jerk}} French?]] * A common one from my friend. "Dying is painful" (or "I'm allergic to death". I prefer to use "Death is a bit of an inconvenience at a young age."). * A necessary element of my humour. Me and a military otaku friend were reviewing the effects of weaponry and, through Q&A, come up with a few gems, among them describing the effects of witnessing the detonation of a 100 megaton thermonuclear device at a distance of ten miles. Apparently it would be a bit loud and a tad bright, so you might want to consider putting your hands over your ears and closing your eyes. It'd also be a bit windy, so you'd might want to consider a jacket and an umbrella. [[DontExplainTheJoke Also, you'd be vaporised.]] * This troper once had orange juice poured over his head, was kicked in the stomach and thrown down a flight of stairs by his hair by a certain someone who shall remain nameless. When asked about it by a teacher, I said, "We don't get along." * My sister is a souless, evil, deranged, hitler-like, control freak BITCH who on random decides to ruin my life in the most awkward and humiliating way possible... Now guess why this is on the Understatement page... ** You sound displeased. * [[{{Tropers/Joerc45}} This troper]] is [[SelfDemonstratingArticle quite fond]] of using these. * [[{{Tropers/JasonCarter}} This Troper]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking I AM AI, VERITAS O WHY? TO SEE THE SKY IS A FLY, THE QUESTION QUERIES ADONAI. THE NAME OF A FACE IS THE PLACE OF A BEAM WHO KNOWS WHY THE WORLD IS? QUIZNOS HYPERDELUXE SUBS WITH BAYBYBACK RIBS. I KID.]] * [[{{FairyDreamer}} This troper's]] younger sister uses these so much, she must think it's funny. A few weeks ago, this troper was babysitting and her sister tried to cook something on the stove. Being the awful cook she is, her sister started a fire. This troper put it out with the fire extenguisher and then, she and her sister had this exchange: -->'''Sister''': I guess I put the heat up too high. -->'''Me''' (furious): You don't say!

-->'''Sister''': Oh, boy. Mom's really gonna be mad when she sees this. -->'''Me''': Ya think?!? * I once wrote a short story about a man who is in need of money and out of pure desperation kidnaps a teenage girl whose parents are rich. And that's where [[EpicFail everything goes wrong]], as it turns out that her parents are not as rich as they pretend to be. Thus, he ends up in a cabin with a kidnapee he has no use for, but he can't get rid of her either, because to do that he'd have to hurt her, and he's too afraid. He didn't really cover his tracks that well either, as it only takes the police a couple of days to find them, and by then the man is so distressed about how worthless a kidnapper he is that he's as happy to see them as the girl is. Right at the end, when he's sitting in the back of a police car, he muses that [[{{Understatement}} maybe crime isn't really his thing.]] * This troper does this sometimes. When asked his opinion on Hitler: "Not cool, man. Not cool." * This troper does this [[{{Understatement}} somewhat often]]. * My mom once said that 12 year old youtube commenters are not very smart. * This troper suggesting some hentai to his friend ( he asked for it!) described them as "a bit kinky". ---The linked page is slightly related to Main/{{Understatement}}. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnEntendre * A staple in [[{{Tropers/Erkhyan}} my family]]. Hunting these is an official family sport. The undisputed master of UnEntendre, though, is my brother. ** "Tu es peut-tre mon an, mais tu n'es pas un saint." (French for "You might be older than I am, but you're not a saint", pronounced exactly the same as "You might be my boob, but you're not a breast") ** "I *uuuhn - uuhn* a while, so my member's all sore." (he lifted ''dumbbells'' for a while so his ''arm'' is sore) ** "It happened to me with a girl once, I was unable to come. *[[{{Beat}} beat]]* [[ThatCameOutWrong Wait, let me rephrase that]]." (about missing a rendez-vous with his girlfriend) * TruthinTelevision as many tropers know. When one develops a dirty mind, sometimes it is difficult to not think of the wrong thing. After she learned one of her professors had competed on a soon-to-be-aired {{Jeopardy}}, ThisTroper informed several of her Alumni friends. More than one asked her to say "hi" to the, completely awsome, prof for them. When she asked one for something distinctive other than his name just in case the prof didn't remember the name, he said "Well...I broke his G-string once...*beat* GUITAR!" Knowing him, this was most likely intentional. The prof wasn't quite so good on the uptake, which led to this exchange in the middle of class:

--->'''Troper:''' Oh, and N___ B____ says hi. Do you remember him? --->'''Dr. H____''' *shaking head* Can't say I do. --->'''Troper:''' He says he broke your G-string. --->'''Dr. H____''' *with a fond smile* Oh ''Yeah''! *notices horrified looks on most of the rest of the classes faces, gets a confused look, and then with a quick backpedal* It was my guitar string! * When I was in sixth grade, I had alot of fun psyching my friends out by saying words seductively and wiggling my eyebrows. I would do things like lift my leg point to my knee, and go, "''Knee...''", or blow my nose and go "Hehe, ''ti''ssue". It almost always worked. * Very common yet unintentional for Amperschwa. ->(Regarding a soda machine) Just take it off and stick it in there! * "Put your legs up and I can take you more easily." This troper meant that it'd be easy to carry someone. * This troper had a classmate who could find a double entendre in just about ANYTHING. * Once i was taking some photos of a group of friends. One of them, who happened to be gay, had just rolled a cigarette and had it in his mouth for the photo. I put the camera down and said, "Ok, can we lose the fag this time?" before realising what I'd said and being internally horrified. Luckily no one else seemed to notice... * Once my younger brother mentioned the fact that Wednesday is also called Humpday. I told him that was inappropriate. Of course, he didn't understand. ** It's actually called Humpday because, as it is in the middle of the week, it is the "hump" of the week. (or so I heard...) * This troper once had to ask his friends in a conversation whether the word "ampersand" was an innuendo (I forget the context). From that moment forward, it was--although we never quite figured out what it actually ''meant''. ** Ampersand=& *** I think above troper meant they never figured out what the innuendo was, not what ampersand meant. * I put a link on FB of a clip from Toy Story(1 or 2 I don't remember), the one with the shark saying "I'm Woody! Howdy howdy howdy!" because that's one of my favorite quotes. My friend comments, 'lol I get it now, that's so pervy! XD' Me: '...No.' * As this troper enjoys telling people: "If you try hard enough, you can turn ''anything'' into an innuendo... ''IfYouKnowWhatIMean''." * Back in the day every time my slightly older cousin heard me say something that sounded like a double entandre he'd laugh, and me being fairly innocent at the time had no idea why he was laughing so much particularly when I used the word "balls" in a sentence. * I once saw a Days Inn where the "Y" was a "D", becoming "Dads Inn". Cue snarky remarks from family members that it was a "gentleman's club". ---Go back to UnEntendre. Heh heh. "Back". ----

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UnexpectedSuccessor * This troper was this trope during a LiveActionRPG based on [[TheElderScrolls Morrowind]]. She suddenly became the Telvanni Archmagister because the previous Archmagister and all Masters perished. ** You're Telvani, isn't that how going up the ranks works? * This troper joined a campus club. At the first meeting, he was named treasurer because "the previous one transferred to another school and you're the only accounting major in the group." * The ''only'' reason that I, the vice president of my anime club, and my friend, our president, have our positions at all is because three years ago, out of the blue, the then-president decided to name two new people to the executive and picked us just to spite an arrogant jerk who'd been gunning for a position all year. ---What? Who is the Chief Troper now you say? You? If so, go see UnexpectedSuccessor. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnfortunateCharacterDesign * When This Troper was in middle school, her friend was writing and illustrating a story. When she showed me an illustration of the family of one of the girls in the story, and I mentioned that the picture "doesn't look right". When she asked if I meant because I wasn't sure who was supposed to be the parents and who were the siblings, I specified that I meant it was because the mom "looks like she has balls". (She was wearing sweatpants, and the band was tied into a bow with the loops hanging down. Since the picture wasn't in color, it was a bit hard to tell what that was.) My friend then started to furiously erase and redraw the crotch area, trying to make it look less...unfortunate. * As a kid, I made a robot-like thing out from several empty boxes that I drew on. After some months, my brother mentioned that it looked like it had boobs, seeing how I drew two circles with smaller circles inside at the chest area. This was completely unintentional, and we both laughed. * When designing the characters for my series, it's hard to think anything else that Peter's face (or at least the eyes and long nose) could resemble other then an errect male reproductive organ (This will be [[LampshadeHanging Lampshade hung]] eventually). ** A similar thing happened to one of my characters, only the strangeshaped nose (or beak, in this case, since it's a beaked dinosaur) was intentional. The huge eyes, however, I only noticed later.

[[FridgeBrilliance But it works better this way.]]

UnfortunateImplications * This troper has seen a popular image supposedly made in favor of gay rights. It shows Lady Liberty sweeping Blind Justice off her feet and passionately kissing her. The issue with the picture is that Blind Justice isn't really aware of the situation (considering shes being blindfolded then swept off her feet and all). While there is no reason to believe she isn't enjoying the kiss, it sort of supports the antigay criticism that the LGBT community wants to impose itself upon others. Maybe they should've used [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_name Columbia]] or just put her blindfold down (which could have been more powerful IMO). * Tropers/MollyWalker: While visiting the Vermont Teddy Bear Factory, I came across one of the "Seconds" bears - customized teddy bears that, for whatever reason, were sent back (perfectly good, they just say stuff like "It's A Girl!" or "For Deanna" on them). So, I stumbled across one with writing on each of the four paws: "Keira, Please / Forgive Trent / He Loves You / Beary Much." How sweet, right? Wrong. Think about it - that fact that the bear is back in the Shop means Keira ''sent him back''. Awww =( * This troper was looking at the front window of a Build-A-Bear Workshop display, wherein amongst many dressed Teddy Bears was a Teddy ''Pig'' dressed up as a ''Police'' man. This troper began to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_slang_terms_for_police_officers wonder...]] * Build-a-bear places apparently dance a risky tango with this trope, primarily due to the method by which some places insert the stuffing. Namely a spike inserted into the bear's hollow epidermis via the backside. The spike is stationary. The bear needs to be jammed onto the spike anus first. Now the idea of someone forcibly filling a empty bear up with white stuff via its backside has bad enough connotations, but imagine being small child who has spent all this time making the empty shell, and thus perhaps become attatched to it. A friend of mine witnessed the aftermath of such an event, the (~3 year old) child wasn't impressed at the worker going Vlad Tepes on his creation. * This furry troper has talked to a fellow furry who seems to have a hard time thinking through the implications of some of his ideas. There are two instances of this which shall be defined below: ** First case: We were talking about what a furry version of our world would be like, and he had the idea that the semitic people would be represented by a species of jackal. In his logic, Jackals are a canine species (and thus they would be able to breed with other canine species) that originated from the Middle East. However, outside the [[FurryFandom Furry Fandom]], [[AnimalStereotypes Jackals are seen as generally unsavory, greedy, and evil]]. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_Jews#As_enemies_of_Chris tianity_and_satanic_consorts This stereotype is also held by antisemites about Jews]]. ** Second and most recent case: We were talking about how sexual orientation would apply to hermaphrodites (specifically, the Futanari

variety where you have the reproductive capabilities of both men and women) and I presented the idea that a gay hermaphrodite would only be interested in other hermaphrodites, rather than a male or female partner. He proposed that maybe a gay hermaphrodite would only go or partners that matched to his/her gender identity. I did not ask nor receive his line of logic, but to me, it seemed like a case where, if for some reason the hermaphrodite in question had to change gender identities, then if s/he was gay, s/he would have to change partners really fast and push the idea that AllGaysArePromiscuous. *** I actually think YOU are having a moment of UnfortunateImplications here. "Hermaphrodite" is actually an offensive term and they prefer to be called intersex. Also, just because you're intersex doesn't mean your gender identity is intersex, so a person who is physically intersex could be gay or straight just like anyone else. Also, why would they have to change partners fast? * [[Tropers/KamiKaze This Troper]] once had to do a project for Art Class in Sophomore year. To be specific, we had to make political artwork (I did mine on censorship). One guy comes up, with a sign reading "VOTE FOR OBAMA," with a picture of a dark skinned ''caveman'' with a spear. When asked, he said the point was that voting for Obama would set things back significantly, but needless to say, this troper's jaw dropped. * Recently I was at a car show held by the lake. As me, my dad, and brother are getting in the car we see a group of black people walking by and one of them asks "are we lost." Not really an odd thing normally, but this is a redneck town in Idaho (it happened down the road from a chapel called "The Hitchin' Post"). We had to laugh at the implications of this. * This Troper remembers working as an editor for his school's literary journal. One of the poetry submissions he had to review was called "My MayDecemberRomance." Nothing inherently bad about that... except that the poem included (among other interesting bits) lines that went something along the lines of, "You'll be my Humbert and I your {{Lolita}}." So apparently the author was well enough aware of the content of [[{{Lolita}} that book]] to know Humbert's name, but didn't see the irony in using [[{{Lolicon}} that]] as a defence of her own relationship? So yeah... * This troper is watching a documentary that deconstructs the depiction of Arabs in film. It seems that, no matter how many years have passed, Arab characters are either AlwaysChaoticEvil, terrorists, or greedy. It smartly examines the depiction of them in film. I'm surprised they didn't cover TheLastAirbender! * There's an Australian (and possibly [[DidNotDoTheResearch elsewhere]]) Christian group that runs camps during the school holidays and [[DidNotDoTheResearch maybe other stuff]]. The camps are a lot of fun, and the leaders are really nice, and you get to go rock climbing! The problem? They're called [[KnightTemplar Crusaders.]] Um, yeah... * This troper had it happen today when one of her classmates was discussing how the sentence structure of the story we were reading made the character seem uneducated. The character in question was Native American, and this troper has a lot of Native American friends.

Needless to say she made the UnfortunateImplications [[BerserkButton of that statement]] [[SlasherSmile quite known.]] * This troper was involved in a 2010 production of the Donizetti opera "The Elixir of Love." Originally, the opera takes place in "a small village in the Basque country," but, in the spirit of our location (western North Carolina), the director decided to stage the opera in "a small village in the Antebellum South"...which meant that all the happy, singing, dancing, smiling Basque peasants had been turned into happy, singing, dancing, smiling...[[FacePalm African American slaves.]] * On this website, the FiveManBand is ordered as follows: [[TheHero Leader]] - [[TheLancer Second-in-command]] - [[TheBigGuy Muscle]] [[TheSmartGuy Brains]] - [[TheChick Odd one out]]. The FiveBadBand is arranged [[BigBad Leader]] - [[TheDragon Second-in-command]] [[EvilGenius Brains]] - [[TheBrute Muscle]] - [[DarkChick Odd one out]]. '''[[DumbIsGood HMMMMM.]]''' * This troper was watching JeepersCreepers, specifically the second one, and noticed the certainly odd preference the director had for showing shirtless boys on the screen. A lot. Then I looked up the director, and things turned much, much freakier and scarier. Not only was the monster damn horrifying, but the vibes it left were just...ugh. ** The sad bit is that it's not that much different from how most [[MonsterMisogyny straight male horror film makers portray women]], it's just that this one happen to be a gay pedophile. * At this troper's school in the health class for the kids a few grades below her, the kids had to make posters about stereotypes. Most of them weren't that bad except for two posters that she will paraphrase. "There is a damaging stereotype that all left-handed people are gay. This is very offensive to left-handed people because nobody wants to be portrayed as gay." "All French people are gay is a very bad stereotype because just because they wear nice clothes does not mean they are gay and French men are not gay because they have sex with lots of ladies and it is degrading to say they are gay." Both of those kids claim to support equal rights for the LGBT community. She and her friend were reading the posters and we both looked shock and mentioned the trope in name. * In the province of Ontario, Canada, we have a park called Killbear Provincial Park. * I have an issue with phone companies sending me phone books in Spanish only, with no English alternative delivered. Note that I have a Hispanic last name, but don't speak much Spanish, so this is nearly useless for me. It seems that phone companies (multiple ones, in multiple US states, in multiple parts of the country) seem to think that customers with Hispanic last names need Spanish-language phone books, because they'd be more comfortable with them than an Englishlanguage counterpart. ** Been there too. I have a Hispanic last name and as a result get a lot of mail and cold calls in Spanish. Apparently the fact that a lot of Filipinos (which I am) also have Hispanic last names never occurred to any of these companies. * This troper is playing an arrangement of John Williams marches in an

ensemble he's in. The first march- Raiders of the Lost Ark (Nazis going to find the lost Ark of the Covenant). The second- The Imperial March (Darth Vader and the Empire). The third? Olympic Theme and Fanfare. Apparently international sports competitions are organizations of evil. * Basically everywhere (high school, the office, even CHURCH), this gay troper has noticed that whenever a man (regardless of s.o.) acts nicely, is generous, kind, or shows even the most remote possible human affection, they are called "gay". Now, doesn't it seem, to anyone else, that calling the most virtuous traits anyone can have "gay", make it seem as though straight men ought to be, I dunno, {{Complete Monster}}s? Why does no one stop this? ** Because people have it pounded into their head every day that men are supposed to be strong, macho, emotionless leaders who care only for themselves. Thankfully, we're steadily moving from this stereotype. * I accidentally stumbled across some fanart of Violet and Mirage from ''TheIncredibles'' on DeviantArt, having a sleepover. The artist in question draws mostly femslash (and quite skillfully, too). Violet is a shy, insecure 14-year old girl, and Mirage is an attractive, selfpossessed, mature woman who, according to the pictures, has a sleepover with her, watches her sleep[[hottip:*:The piece after the sleepover depicts Mirage sleeping as the morning light falls across her face, ostensibly naked under the covers, while Violet, curled up in a nearby chair in an almost fetal position, watches ''her'' sleep with an odd not-quite-a-smile on her face. It's pretty easy to AlternativeCharacterInterpretation this into "they just had sex" and "Violet is practicing her fake smile for when she lies to her parents". When Violet falls asleep doing homework in another piece, Mirage touches her with an almost paternal look.]], takes her to the fair where she rides with Violet on a Ferris wheel--in fact, [[PaedoHunt if she was a dude]], she'd be a stereotypical pedophile. One of the descriptions even says they spent a "wonderful night" * I played Lucy in a local production of the musical ''Jekyll and Hyde'' by Frank Wildhorn. The title character gets two love interests: Lucy and also Emma, Jekyll's fiancee. Emma is pretty much the love of Jekyll's life and [[spoiler: is still alive by the end of the show]], while Lucy [[spoiler: gets horribly murdered by Hyde.]] So it looked a little unfortunate that we had an Asian Lucy and a white Emma ... * I think an example in my {{Fanfic}} may count. The [[VillainProtagonist main]] [[NobleDemon character]] was given a [[AchillesHeel weakness]] where, if she were [[StandardFemaleGrabArea picked up by the wrist and lifted into the air]], she became catatonic, [[FreudianExcuse due to a traumatic]] NoodleIncident in her past. The unfortunate part is so far, the only characters who've actually picked her up were ''both male'', and [[{{Jerkass}} one of them]] has been shown doing it ''[[KickTheDog intentionally]]!'' Oh, [[SarcasmMode it gets better]]: her reaction may even count as a case of DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything. Yup, NothingIsScarier indeed. * This troper and his sister, who have an Indian dad and a white mother, have run into this several times. My sister once had to get something at a gas station, and the guy at the counter, who was trying

to be chummy, started speaking Spanish to her. My sister told him that she doesn't speak Spanish, and the guy was taken aback. And while I was in middle school, an acquaintance asked me if I was a fan of alQaida and Osama bin Laden ([[ItMakesSenseInContext there was probably something in the conversation that specifically led to that question]], but I don't remember what). I told him no, and he angrily blurted out "Oh, so you've betrayed your own kind, huh?!" to which I responded that I am Indian. Incidentally, this same acquaintance was [[HypocriticalHumor an atheist who adheres to the "religion results in racism" camp]]. * There's a public safety officer at This Troper's school that rides a Segway around the campus. [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin We all call him Segway Cop.]] Whenever I see him, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPGUIpv-JxI this song]] plays in my head. Segway Cop is black. There's been a lot of backpedaling to my friends. ---To get back to UnfortunateImplications please follow the watermelon field 5 miles north from the Kentucky Fried Chicken resturaunt to the KoolAid factory, then make a left. ----

UnfortunateNames * This troper had a classmate in high school named Chase ... Cox. Yeah. If your last name is Cox, a verb or an adjective is a bad idea for a name. * This troper has a friend named "Richard Delgado" Delgado means "skinny" in spanish and Richard, well, you know: Skinny Dick. * [[OverlyLongName Earnest-Phillip Marius-Hugh]]. Most people call him Phil. I also know some guy whose name means 'punishment' when translated to his mother tongue. My economics teacher's name is Darwin-Stallin. Most people call him 'D', though. * This troper works in a call center and sees such names all of the time. Jose Arreola, Sharon Cox, Krystal Shanda Leer, the list goes on. ** My own name is a mild zig-zagging of this trope. "Evan Drake" was almost my name, and I often wish it were. However, my grandmother said she would call me "Duck." (Drake = Male Duck) So, my mom named me "Jarred Evan." So now, my full initials spell "JET," which I think is actually kindwhat badass. Then, I get to high school and people keep asking what the E stands for. I tell them "Evan," and they give me these very awkward looks. Turns out Evan is the name of the closeted gay guy at a school in a very homophobic community. Somehow, they thought that made me gay. . . Being CampStraight did not help my case. * Mix of UnfortunateNames and PunnyName. This Troper has an Organic Chemistry instructor with a given name of [[{{Jackass}} Jack Hess]]. ** On this same troper's way home, he saw a news van with the plate number {{UKE}} 356. * This troper's teacher once told her about a story how there was a person with the surname 'Pecpec.' In ''his'' native dialect, it means

'fulled', but in the official language, it means... vagina. I'm not kidding. He later apparently changed his name to something more respectable. * This Troper is very proud of his name, Science Limefighter. ** Is your parent a celebrity? ** "Why can't I fight all these limes?" * Cross between EmbarrassingMiddleName and UnfortunateNames. My middle name is Siobhan, which was used - and rather defiled - by [[Literature/{{Twilight}} it who must not be named]]. I was also (ironically) denied as to knowing how it's pronounced. * This troper is still not sure if their friend was serious when she said she met a 'Vaganna [=LaPienes'=] * This troper has known TWO girls named after alcohol. One girl named Champagne (nicknamed "Chamy", pronounced "Shamy"), and another girl named Tequila. Not kidding either. Real names. What WERE their parents thinking? * This troper has known of several Mr. Heads whose parents either hated them or lacked the foresight to avoid making their first name Richard. ** This troper's father worked with a Harold Hedd, who ''did'' name his son Richard. *** See you and raise: this troper works with a Richard ''Smoker''. *** And this troper goes to school with a Richard ''Palmer''. *** Scout camp with a Richard ''Smakka''. *** Used to know a Richard ''Seaman''. He of course got tagged with "Dick" in firefighter training. *** This troper knows of someone in our company called Richard Cockshot. Poor, poor man... *** This troper is acquainted with a man named Richard Leeke. *** This troper believes that his friend, name of Harold Richard Head, beats all. The man has gotten backstage on the basis of his name. **** Wow. Care to drop the band name? *** This troper once met someone who was actually known as Dick Bug. Ewww. *** This troper's father used to work with a man named Dick Woodcock. (You'd think he would at least go by Richard...) According to my mother, my dad and his friends once had a mock golf tournament, in which a comment was made regarding poor Mr. Woodcock, saying, "There will be a two-point penalty for mockery of this man's name." *** I once attended a seminar delivered by a Mr. Timber Dick. I had to duck under the table and dig my nails into my skin to keep from bursting out laughing. * In secondary school one of my teachers claimed to have met a Lee King who worked on a canal lock. * This troper's father knew a Richard Harden. He was at least savvy enough to request to be called Rich, and nothing else. * This troper once had a textbook written by a guy named Norman Conquest. Unfortunately, it was a chemistry book rather than a medieval history one. ** He was this troper's chemistry teacher - He played up to his name as his signature was "1066" and he had named his dog "Hastings" - sadly, Mr. Conquest (a brilliant teacher at Perth Academy) passed

away recently. * [[{{Indigo}} This troper]]: ** has a kid sister whose first name is Kristal. My mother wanted to give her the middle name Claire. She's lucky I refused to let that stand. *** also has three family members who share namesake with Tropical Storms/Hurricanes. ** knew a woman her mother worked with was named Venus Valentine, and was frequently mistaken for someone who worked in the Adult Film industry. ** knew a girl in high school who named her sons ''StarskyAndHutch''. ** is acquainted with someone called Crystal Waters, and has to live through [[NeverHeardThatOneBefore jokes about whether her middle name is 'Clear' or 'Blue']]. ** had a friend in college named Michael Hunt. Woe betide anyone who called him "Mike". ** works in a call center and encounters customers with names like this on a regular basis: *** Sayonara. *** We have had a customer whose real name is [[{{Superman}} Clark Kent]]. *** [[{{X-Men}} Bobby Drake, Gene Grey, Logan Grey]]. *** [[{{Batman}} James Gordon, Barbara Gordon (more than one customer with this name!) and Bruce Wayne]]. *** One whose name is [[{{PowerPack}} Katie Power]]. *** Additional customers Chester Lester, Lordly Rattray, Jamie Justice, Terry Tardy [[spoiler: Ter'''Retard'''y]], multiple variations on Charlie Brown, [[WildCards Mark Meadows]], [[MisterRogersNeighborhood Frederick Rogers]], Robert [[StarTrek Tribble]], Tom J. Sawyer, Judy Benuti, [[TheAuthority Jennifer Sparks]], VeronicaMars, [[{{Shipping}} Peter Clare]], [[MarvelComics Stanley Lee, Sue Reed, Misty Knight]], [[StarWars Anthony Daniels, Mr. Knobbe]], [[TheDukesOfHazzard Bo Luke]], Anita Hammer, Sam Schlam, [[HarryPotter Hari Pottaragu]], Crystal Springs, Kelly Green, [[LostInSpace Zachary Smith]], [[TheDCU Bruce Allen]], Barry White, Jim Morrison, Raymond J. Johnson, Justin Payne, [[{{Series/MASH}} Margaret Houlihan]], [[{{Ghostbusters}} William Murray]], Gladys Badger, Cynthia Johnson-Tingles and Kwang Chung ...just to name a few. **** Coworkers named Rene [=McCree=], {{SamuelLJackson}}, Robert E. Lee, Robin Byrd and Crystal Waters * Speaking of weather-related names, this troper once knew a girl in junior high named Misty Snow. Nothing too unusual about that, until I found out that her younger sister's name was Windy. Not Wendy, but Windy. Again, some might think that's just a clever pun that at least sounds like a real name. And then her newborn youngest sister was named Stormie... ** Could be worse, this troper knew friends named Misty Lane and Carol Ling. Not so bad, except it only incites the stupid to make the obvious jokes. ** Also weather-related, this troper knows two sisters who ride his bus named Stormi Skie and Summer Skie. * This troper used to have a regular customer (well into his 90s, ten

years ago) whose name was Ronald [=MacDonald=]. (I suggested that he could probably get a lot of money doing commercials for Burger King or Wendy's). ** That was also the name of a MallSanta turned child molester in the Seattle area. ** Jack in the Box did several such ads during TheNineties, featuring ordinary people named "Ronald [=McDonald=]", "Jared", and "Wendy". * In school, this troper actually has a kid in one of his classes named "Jack Dawe". (For those not in the know, a jackdaw is a type of bird.) * This troper once met a girl at university called Rosanna Macleod, who had the misfortune to live in Watsonia. If you were to look at the Melbourne rail map, you would soon discover that Rosanna, Macleod and Watsonia are consecutive stations. ** Melbourne based Troper and I lol'd. * This troper used to hang out with a Minh Tu Long, seriously. * This troper works with a man who goes by the name Harry Peters. * I once worked with a gal name of ''Anne Null''. It works on two levels. She used to say, "My name means nothing" (the clean level)". I also wrote a joke in one of my comics about a girl named "Connie Linges" (pronounced "lin-ZHAY")--and if anyone knows someone who actually goes by that name, do drop me a line. I did see the name "Fagala" in a local phone book, though. Oh, and who could forget former Claremont Graduate College head ''Robert Klitgaard''? * This troper once knew a girl whose real name was Molly Polly Jolly. Her parents had let her older sisters name her. * This troper knows of gynaecologists named Dr. Koontz, Hyman Pleasure, and Seymour Weiner (that one should have been a urologist). * This troper knew a woman with the last name of Gardner. When she got married, she decided to hyphenate her last name. The man she married had the last name Hoose. Gardner-Hoose. [[spoiler:"Gardening hose."]] Oh boy... * Not as bad as most, but my name is Anna and I absolutely HATE bananas. * This troper went to school with a Randy Fagg; she has a professor named Mr. Bohmfalk. * Another school example; at this troper's high school, one may occasionally hear [[PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Penny Nicoles]] being called down to the office. * [[@/{{Dioschorium}} This troper]] has friends acquainted with a family known as the Suckups. ("Imagine if the Suckups were in the Army! 'Major Suckup reporting for duty!'") They have a daughter named Pansy. Yes, Pansy Suckup, although that doesn't beat the Randy Fagg example above. * One of my grand-cousins was called Ringrose. He was a man. Poor lad. * This troper still speculates about the kind of parents who would name their child Rapee. Probably French ones. * This troper's cousin name is Richard William. Or Dick Willy, as we prefer to call him. * I can't forget a classmate in high school, who often spoke about an Italian man whom she knew. He had eight sons (yes, all males) named, in order of birth from the oldest: Primo ("First"), Secondo

("Second"), Terzo ("Third"), Quarto ("Fourth"), Quinto ("Fifth"), Sesto ("Sixth"), Settimo ("Seventh") and Ottavo ("Eight"). Either the man didn't care the slightest about his offspring, or he desperately wanted a daughter. ** Well, if it was good enough for the Romans... * This Troper met a woman called [[LouisCypher Lucy Pher]]. * This troper knew a boy in high school called Mike Hawk. Say it aloud a couple times if you don't get it. He used to joke about it, though. ** Did he become a famous 'man of action'? Because there's a Bear Grylls-style adventurer called Mike Hawk who has appeared on TV a few times. * This troper went to school with a guy called [[SherlockHolmes James Moriarty]]. * This troper had an English teacher named Miss Cox (Cocks), who married a man named Mr. Freizen (Freezin'). Unfortunately, she did not hypenate her name to make Freezin'-Cocks. * This troper knows someone named Harrison Wang (Hairy Wang) ** This troper takes your Harrison Wang and raises you a Harry Wang. His first name was Harry, his last was Wang. He never knew what was so funny, being that he was from China and we were laughing too hard to explain coherently. ** This troper had a Harrison Sacks in his high school. (Take a wild guess) ** I used to work with a guy named Harold Becker. ** This troper knew a Harold Fister. I suspect his parents were clinically insane. * This troper went to school with a Latoya Jackson and a Quincy Jones. That's right. My high school was musical! * This troper attended middle school with a John Doe. [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity ensued]] when any substitute teacher asked his name. She knew of a Blue Smith who married a Mr. Brown, thus becoming Blue Brown. Her sister worked with a Misty Forest. * This troper's school French teacher told him of a German acquaintance with the surname Fucker. Since the equivalent German word is very similar and most Germans understand English anyway, he probably gets as many jokes at home as he would in an English-speaking country. * This troper knows a girl with last name Adcox (pronounced the way you would expect). Amazingly, nothing seems to have come of it. * This troper has a relative whose mother named him Peter Gabriel (insert last name here) on ''accident''. At the height of Peter Gabriel's solo career. Years later, he met another boy his age who was name Peter Gabriel as well (weird). She also has a more distant relative whose name is Grace Kelly. And she had a friend in high school whose older brother was named Paul Newman. * [[@/GwenStacyWannabe This troper]]'s Spanish teacher named one of her sons Gabriel Asher (last name). He goes by Gabe. Poor kid. ** This troper went to school with a Gabriel Asher who went by Gabe. He says his parents expected him to go by Gabriel. ** My friend only had to say that once to figure it out. We laughed for like 10 minutes straight (no pun intended) * This troper's uncle is a senior pilot who once interviewed graduates

for a training scheme. One of them was a woman called (first name) Goodbody. Everyone had a joke about it when she went into the interview, including her - until she discovered she hadn't got the position. She then tried to bring an appeal against the panel for sexual harassment, but it was rejected. * This troper's sister once encountered a Polly Esther Fabric. You can't tell me that one wasn't ''deliberate.'' Her parents ought to be drawn and quartered. * While, for fairly obvious reasons, she never ''met'' the guy, this troper once found a ''Quibell Pridmore'' on her school's war memorial. ** Was he a refugee from the world of ''DeathNote'' or something? Because that's exactly [[ForeignSoundingGibberish the kind of strange name]] the characters in there have. ** Having [[http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=73490 looked him up]] on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website, I can say that he probably went by 'Harry'. ** BilingualBonus: [[@/NotSoBadassLongcoat this Polish troper]] noticed that it may be pronounced "Kibel", which means "shitter" (as in "toilet") in Polish. * A high school friend of mine had a counselor named Robyn Bird. * This troper had a male classmate whose real full name was Babbling Brook. However, we didn't find that out until the end of senior year, when the yearbooks came out. For the whole time we knew him, he went by Rocky. * Melina and its variants, although not all that common, are fairly normal names which will raise no eyebrows. Unless, of course, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melaena one knows many doctors and nurses...]] * This troper worked in a call center once and saw the following names: ** Bum Park (very, very common). Apparently it's a decent name in Korean, but for English speakers... ** Richard Mancock ** A man with the granddaughter whose name is Pinto ** Ivana Bush - "Ivy Bush" *** Pinto is very common in Portugal, actually. * During this troper's ninth grade, the third place winner in the talent show was someone named Silver Lining. * @/KrazehPenguin's father knew someone who named their kids Snow and Pine... because their last name was Cone. * This troper once saw supermarket cashier with a name tag that read Fanny. Granted, she wasn't English/American, but still, that's not a very good name. * This troper once read a roster of the people in his (Army) division and discovered that one poor soul had been named, "Baby Girl Parker." (I hope God struck her parents down.) ** It's common practice for a birth certificate to read "Baby Boy" or "Baby Girl" if the parents leave the hospital before deciding on a name for the child. Let us pray that was the case here. * In elementary school, one of this troper's classmates was named Amulet Strange. At least her name couldn't be intepreted as anything

offensive. ** Wouldn't she fit better under AwesomeMcCoolname? * A friend of [[@/{{Nausicaa}} this troper's]] had a headteacher at school whose last name was Shore-Twilly. Try saying that incredibly quickly. ** She has also seen a book written by a certain Colin Manlove. * This troper went to a school with a kid named Mai Dong. * This trope went to high school with a girl named Bobby Jo Moorehead. She usually went by B.J. * A friend of mine by the name of Richard Baker, who's suffered several jokes about both his first name being "Dick" and the fact that he could never, ever get a butler (and there's enough money in his family to consider it) for fear of becoming "Master Baker", which might be just a little too close for comfort. ** At my middle school, there was a "Chris Bader". He was familiar with the use of the word "Master" as a formal address for young boys, and actively encouraged its use when addressing him. * This troper read about a Dr. Moorcock in a book somewhere. * This troper's grandmother is friends with a woman named Mary Christmas, and this troper knows a girl named Scarlett Lush. In fact, this troper himself used to have a surname that was pronounced "shatty" before he changed it. * In this Troper's sister's Australian history textbook, there was an individual named John Thomas Bigge. * There was a professor at this troper's school whose surname was Wang. What's worse is that most e-mail addresses at this school consist of the first initial of a person's name, the middle initial, and then the first six letters of the person's last name. His e-mail ended up being mywang@ the school's domain. Poor guy. * In this Tropers country, Sweden, it is not unusual with last names based on percieved personal strenths. Examples include "Snygg" (handsome) "Stark" (strong) and "Stolt" (Proud). Not only is that pretty funny, but a usual given name is "Inge" which can be translated as "not at all". Oh dear... * This Troper's ex-co-worker named his son [[{{X-Men}} Logan Xavier]] *last name*. ** Likewise, this Troper knows someone who called his son [[{{X-Men}} Logan Phoenix]] *last name*. Poor kid. * This Troper has known a Benjamin Dover and a Phillip [=McKracken=]. Both preferred not to shorten their names. There's also a local woman who's married name is Dwyer. Her first name? Barb. * A story told to this troper by a friend: the friend's father had a visit by one of his clients once. (The troper does not recall his business, but thinks it had something to do with insurance.) The client was a woman with the name Iona Glasscock. The father apparently had to leave the room so he wouldn't laugh at her to her face. * This troper knew some people who named their daughter Quess Sakota. I wish I was joking. To this day, I can't decide if they hated the poor kid or were just off their rockers. (Are either of those legitimate names in ANY language?) My grandmother takes the cake, though: She was named Elsie Gladys at a time when Elsie the Borden Milk Cow was a very popular advertisising icon... and she couldn't go

by her middle name because people would call her "happy bottom." (Gladys= "glad ass"= "happy bottom".) Unfortunately some kids at school got ahold of her full name, and she went most of her school career being called "Happy Bottom Cow." Despite this, she grew into a remarkably loving and well-adjusted person. Oh, and I also once had a science teacher named Allen Rench. ** I suspect Quess Sakota was a mangling of "Quetzalcoatl." Although that makes it worse. ** Well, if the girl's parents were...um...anime fans, they could be naming her after Quess Paraya from Char's Counterattack. That's the only time I've ever heard the name Quess, though. * This troper's mother went to school with a kid named James Bond (this was pre-Dr. No). * This troper went to school with an Ashley Ketchum. A MALE Ashley Ketchum. As if being a boy named Ashley wasn't bad enough, "Ash" [[{{Pokemon}} wasn't much better to go by...]] ** Ashley is actually a male name. * This troper works with an individual named Richard Inman. * I recall seeing in a magazine a picture of a girl working in [=McDonald's=] called "Inge". You will notice that the [=McDonald's=] "M" is before the name, giving a name badge reading "Minge". * There was a teacher at my college named Richard Dick. I never heard that he murdered his parents, but who would have blamed him if he had? ** Also, there was an attorney in town who had on his nameplate Richard "Dick" Fickle. ** NASCAR Driver Richard "Dick" Trickle. ** There's a gun enthusiast out there who's name is Dick Love. * This troper's father is named Jan, after '''his''' father. Thus every so often, said father will receive bulk mail from companies that clearly are going off his name alone, addressed to a "Ms. Janet [Last Name]". Telemarketers and medical clinics (Jan [Last Name] is a CRNA) often make the same mistake. And because it's pronounced in the same manner as "Janet" rather than as "Yan" (ruling out a Germanic origin), no one in the family knows how he or his father got the name in the first place. ** This troper also heard of a student four years ahead of him at his high school with an unfortunate '''translation''' of a name. In Cambodia, Phuck Hyun probably doesn't mean anything special. But in an English-speaking country like the US, it sounds like an obvious expletive. The jokes apparently were so pervasive at this troper's high school that the principal declared on the PA system that Mr. Hyun would henceforth be known as "Paul". ** Is your last [[ScrubsTheSeries name]] [[AlmightyJanitor Itor]]? * This troper's sister once had a teacher named Sandra Crabbes. She preferred to be known as Sandy. * This troper's niece is named Caress. Yes, she probably does have a career in adult entertainment ahead of her... * This troper's friends, the Bates family. The two teenage sons have perfectly ordinary first names, but do make perpetual jokes about being "Master Bates". ** Similarly, one of teachers at this troper's junior high school had a last name of Bateman. Needless to say, "mister" was changed to

"master" quite a bit. At least when referencing him; I don't know of anyone who called him that directly. * On the Jick and Mr. Skullhead radio show at KingdomOfLoathing, Skully once mentioned a friend of his working with a Chinese guy named Ching Chong. * This troper's high school is home to girls named Pita and [=LaSonia=] (say it out loud). Pita's African, but [=LaSonia=]'s presumably American... *facepalm* ** Google shows up plenty of [=LaSonias=]... you may have to [[DontExplainTheJoke explain the joke]]. *** This troper had to say it out loud to himself a few times. Sounds like "lasagne", especially if you say it with an American accent. ** This troper also has girl classmates, one surnamed Pita, and another named Hershey Jopia (pronounce surname as "hopia," as in the mung bean snack). Cue [[{{LampshadeHanging}} him greeting either with]] [[Literature/{{Twilight}} "You brought a snack..."]] * Not sure if it goes here, but this Troper knows two albinos with the last name Whiteley. Yes. * This troper encountered a textbook in high school English by someone with the surname Boagey. Cue much giggling from the class of 14-yearolds; the troper then quipped DeadpanSnarker-style that he must have got ''picked on'' at school upon which the teacher, hitherto trying to stay above the adolescent mirth, nearly laughed herself unconscious. * In this troper's old school, there was a teacher whose surname was Panti. She's obviously gotten used to the jokes. * This troper knows an Aiysha (pronounced Asia) Minor and a David Bowie. * The realtor selling my neighbour's house was named 'Gaye' at a time when such names were not uncommon. It was when she got married that it became an issue. There is a big sign in front of my neighbour's house that says their home is for sale by Gaye Males. ** It may interest you to know that a picture of this sign has recently [[http://failblog.org/2009/07/15/name-fail-6/ appeared on failblog.org]] * [[@/{{Zemyla}} This troper's]] mother knew a guy in the Navy whose name was James T. Kirk. He was named before the [[StarTrek TV show]], but he became a captain right around the time the show came out, and was endlessly teased for it. * This Troper HAS the unfortunate name, and is also unfortunately friends with another unfortunately named person. We're Nathan Coffin and Jacob Grave. We also recently met a girl named Victoria Tombs, and is quickly becoming part of the group. Oh, the laughter... well, we were ridiculed in elementary school. Now we're complimented on how awesome our names are. My uncle is named Barry Davis Coffin. Barry D. Coffin. Buried Coffin. I feel so sorry for him. * [[@/{{Gecko}} This troper's]] father went to college with a Paul Ness. On the first day, the professor called role by saying the student's first initial and last name. It was rather uneventful until he got to "P Ness." Earlier, the same dad went to school with a William Oney III. The third guy in a line of Bill-oneys. ** I'd be fine with a name of P. [[EarthBound Ness]]. * This troper's father had a teacher by the name of Peter Loving.

* This troper is a name short of the grand slam: Peter Wood. Fortunately, no Richards anywhere on that side of the family, though Mom considered Holly Angel for a girl's name, but thought better of it. * This troper's Drivers Ed teacher was named Mr. Boner. He was formerly the mayor of the small town this troper you used to live in. His term in that office ended with scandal. The newspapers had some very interesting headlines that year. * This troper's father used to work for the AA, and as the 'Fourth Emergency Service' they got the odd hoax call. One morning he got a very strange call from a man with a thick Irish accent. It took a while to establish that he wasn't pulling his leg: his car had broken down, and he was stranded in the village of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pity_Me Pity Me]]. * This troper's father went to school with Dick Vanstone given the unfortunate nickname of "Penis Lorryrock". * This troper has an ancestor by the name of Fanny Rose Hiscock. Beat that! * There's a guy at this troper's school named Osama. Yes, like [[CompleteMonster THAT]] Osama. * [[@/GentlemensDame883 This troper]] knows a guy surnamed Bay whose Chinese name starts with Shen. If you do not get it, call him Master. I shall wait. ** If you still haven't gotten this, Chinese naming convention is surname first, given name second. We shall wait a little more. * My sister has the name of Katrina, she was apparently the first person a Hurricane Katrina victim asked the name of. * [[@/FurikoMaru This troper]] knew a girl in grade five named Heaven Leigh Williams. And at her high school there was an unfortunate boy whose last name was Shite. ** Narrowly averted by her little sister; their mother wanted to name her Joey Frances Kildare M_____, until she noticed the first three initials. * [[@/MissEntropy This troper]] went to school with a kid whose last name was Brokenleg. He never broke a leg himself, but considering the number of beatdowns he handed out per week (probably to people who made jokes about his name), it would be a miracle if he never broke anyone else's. * I cannot help but laugh at a girl in my Writer's Craft class. While it may not have been unfortunate 17 years ago when she was given it, [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Zutara]] sure has some interesting implications now. * This troper's father went to a Catholic school. There was a Brother English who taught French and a Brother French who taught English. Seriously. * The Weather Channel has everybody's favorite anchor... Nancy Wiener. Sorry, mrs. Wiener, but it's just THAT funny. ** The Weather Channel also has a meteorologist named Jennifer Lopez. Not to be confused with, y'know, Jennifer Lopez. * [[@/DialgaX This Troper]] has found people named: ** Gypsy Blue ** Zu Zu

*** [[AvatarTheLastAirbender "Zuzu?!" *snigger*]] ...not helping, am I? * This troper went to highschool with a girl named Jackie Daniels and a boy named Speed Jones. As this troper remembers, she asked the girl whether or not her parents realized what her name sounded similar to. * [[@/PotatoBucket This editor's]] grandmother (while not as weird as some of these entries) is named "Aloha". And, in a startling coincidence that's as close as you can expect to come to "oe", she married a man with the last name "Oud". That's right. His grandmother is named "Aloha Oud". * At this troper's job, they have a poster with pictures of lost or kidnapped children along with their names and identifying features. He felt horrible after laughing at a girl who's last name was "Findlater". It's something he'd have expected from a comedy movie. * Far be it for this troper to deny any woman the right to do with her married name as she wishes. However, Houston Comets legend and Prarie View A&M head coach Cynthia Cooper might have wanted to consider the [[UnfortunateImplications unfortunate implications]] of being constantly called Cynthia Cooper-Dyke in womens basketball. * This troper's mechanic has the unfortunate name of Mr. Swindler. * One of my classmates in high school guitar class had the full name ''Sean Lennon''. * This Troper remembers an autobiography by a woman named Cupcake Brown.... * This Troper knew a couple whose last name was Potter. They were expecting their first child, a son, and decided not to give him an [[HarryPotter Unfortunate Name]] but keep it in the families first name convention of names starting with J's. Of course, his father was James Potter, so it didn't help. This Troper has also known a Michael Moore and Michael Meyers and the head of his high school was Peschi. The school newspaper milked the last one for all it was worth. * Cox Communications, normally known as just Cox, is a popular cable provider in this troper's area. Unsurprisingly, when they were in a pride parade, the crowd went wild. ** A friend of mine who had been drinking quite heavily once became amused by the phrase, "Cox on Demand" on the television. * This Troper is a rather huge {{Shakespeare}} nerd, who has attended Shakespeare classes, and actually participated in a competition of sorts, must always attach a "(No Really)" when she introduces herself as Juliet. * This troper went to high school with a girl named Krystal Stoner, while her cousin had a friend whose first name was Silvery Blue. When she worked retail, she had an elderly man write out a check whose name was...Charles Manson. * [[@/{{Winter}} This Troper]] spent many many hours in a classroom in the Love Building on his college campus, named after alumnus J. Erskine Love, whose family obviously donated quite a lot of money to the school. His wife's name? Gay. * This editor went to middle school with a boy named Miles Long, and only realized the implications when she looked back. ** Similarly, I knew a plumber named Miles Lane [last name]. His father did it on purpose, he said.

* This troper went to school with Charlie Brown... poor guy. He even had a dog named [[RefugeInAudacity Snoopy.]] * There was a teacher at one of this troper's high schools called Dick Mann. There is also a professor at her college named Gay Love (presumably named [[HaveAGayOldTime before the word took on its current meaning]], but still...). And while working at a call center, she came across a woman with the unfortunate married name of MinorHooker -- though at least that's probably better than Major-Hooker. * This troper had an unfortunate encounter with a young woman who turned out to be named Jenny Taylor. [[ItJustBugsMe Why didn't she call herself Jennifer?]] * This Troper knew not only one but two girls named Princess Joy. We called one Princess and the other one Joy. * This Troper works with a Victoria Doria. At an old job, he worked with an American of Middle Eastern descent named Jihad. * [[@/{{Alkthash}} This Troper's]] mother's first name is Treasure. Her maiden name was House. When she got married she was all too happy to take her husband's last name. * My hometown had a dentist named "Dr. Payne". ** [[MaxPayne Would have been funnier if he was a cop working at the DEA.]] * My grandmother knew a couple with the last name 'Rabbit'. Of course, they named their two sons Peter and Jack. Also, my mother knew a girl by the name of 'Ophelia Titsworth'. * This troper went to middle school with a girl named Stormy Gray, once met a boy named Patrick [=VonPatrick=] (why would parents do this???) and in college knew a guy with the unfortunate last name of Raper. At least his first name wasn't something like "Richard". * My mother once knew a Candy Cane. That count? ** [[Tropers.ReikoKazama I]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint don't see how that could be unfortuna--]] [[FridgeLogic wait]] [[RumbleRoses a second...]] * Architectural example: This troper's college campus has a [=McCarthy=] Hall. Apparently no relation to ''that'' [[RedScare McCarthy]], though, but somewhat amusing. * [[@/{{Shroopliss}} This troper's]] mother used to help out at an elementary school down the road, including helping register new students in the school's database. She ran into trouble registering a new student, because the school's computers refused to accept her name... apparently, ''Shithead'' is blocked by the school's computers. At least it isn't pronounced the way it looks (it's pronounced Shuhtheed), but still, fourth grade onwards, if not earlier, is going to be absolute hell for her. * [[@/{{Bisected8}} This troper]] got a fairly raw deal with his given name to start with, his surname is a homonym for "sharp" (coincidentally, one of his flatmates has the surname "Steel" and he does has a reputation as something of a KnifeNut), his initials are [[AlliterativeName SS]] (which comes with [[ThoseWackyNazis other baggage]]). Luckily he has a middle name and normally renders it as SJS (indeed his username comes from the result of superimposing all three letters, flipping an S, on each other). In addition to this, said name is one syllable off the name of the protagonist of

[[http://tinyurl.com/cqbpme Shark]]. * This Troper's aunt worked at a nursery and kept a record of the worst names, the runner up was Gavin Gob while the winner was Rocko Plonker. Also at this Troper's school there was a teacher named Mrs. Cox and an Indian guy named Wakaz (pronounced "Whack-Ass") all pretty bad... * This troper knows two doctors named Dr. Fear and Dr. Payne. * This troper's parents once had a student named Cash Register, her English Teacher once had a student named Nosmo King (No Smoking), and she knows a person who named their child Sylvan Pancake-Adventure [=McFarland=]. As if that last one wasn't bad enough for the uses of Pancake and Adventure, the kid's initials are SPAM. Yeah... * I attend a Yu-Gi-Oh! club/class and I'm positive that one of the kids there is a Ben Snape.Snape,Snape,Severus Snape... * This troper had a chemistry teacher known as Dr Grim. She was actually not the least bit scary. * This troper recently discovered that her father was associated through business with a man called Randy Shag, leading her to wonder who named the poor guy! Nowhere near as bad to Randy Fagg, but still rather unfortunate. * This troper's vet is named Doctor Katz. Yes, he treats cats. This could almost count as a PropheticName. His son, also named Katz, actually treats horses instead. ** She also works with a guy who has the last name Fattman... and unfortunately he happens to be a rather large fellow. * Surely this troper isn't the only person to know Penny Lane. * This spanish troper's last name is Caravaca. Translated, it would be, well, Cowface. * This troper was told of a Chanda Lear. This was some time ago, though, and she's had time to marry by now. * This troper used to work with an Ian Anderson - it's a relatively obscure one if you're not familiar with Jethro Tull, but he has in fact been asked if he plays the flute. There's also Bear Bang, and a girl he went to high school with named Pornpen (it's apparently a relatively common name in Thailand, where she was from originally, but it's not too surprising that she preferred to go by Annie, and in fact hardly anyone even knew her real name until the yearbook came out). * This tropers friend went to school with someone named Patience Isa Blessing. Yes, pronounced "is a". No idea what the parents were thinking. * [[@/{{This-guy}} My]] mum's name is Maureen Antoinette (Symes/Diodati). She goes by Sam[[strike:antha]] Maureen (Symes/Diodati). * Someone in my family almost named their son Arthur Steven Selznick. But then noticed what his initials would be. * My initials are EMS. Like Emergency Medical Services. It's actually kinda funny, considering most people think I'm emo (I'm not by the way) and if you got hurt you'd go to the EMS. But no one ever pointed out my initials, except my mom. It's cool. * This is the name of a place rather than a person, but... In this troper's area there's a trailer park called Windy Acres. Keep in mind how easily trailer homes are knocked around by tornadoes and just

think about it for a minute. She also had a classmate in the first grade named John Kennedy. * This troper's brother's best friend is named Randy Mann. She also knows a guy with the initials PORN. ** Randy Mann is the name of a ''PushingDaisies'' character as well. ** And this troper thought his friend's initials (DAMN) made for an unfortunate name! * This troper's mother used to be a receptionist, and once regaled me with a tale of a family she met whose last name was Bastard (emphasis on the second syllable, though). * This troper learned physics from a Michael Jordan and is related to a Martha Stewart. * This troper once saw a newspaper real estate article. The name of the agent? Harry Kok. * This troper remembers visiting her mother at the hospital, and doing a double take when someone asked for "Dr Wayne Kerr" over the speakers. * This troper remembers when he was at his friends place when he discovered that there was someone named John Thomas. * This troper has come across to a young girl named Yersinia. Yersinia as in ''[[TheBlackDeath Yersinia pestis]].'' * This troper's mother worked in Australia going over payrolls. Due to the amount of Greek ex-pats at the time she saw some unusual names, but the one that has lingers was a Mr Pispenis. * This troper's girlfriend is named Emma Lee. "And your last name, please?" * This troper's local news team has an anchor named Sunny Layne. Yes, that's her birth name. She apparently was named after a song by Nat King Cole. It doesn't help that she's a redhead, either. ** She wouldn't happen to live in [[TheSpirit Central City]], would she? * A girl in my graduating class had the last name of Fakalata. I didn't know her, but I can only imagine school life must've been rough. * This Troper's doctor at a very young age was named Richard Dicker. After her nine-year-old brother heard of that, there was no end to the Dick Dicker jokes... ** Wow, Dick Dicker is ALSO a ''PushingDaisies'' character. What's going on here? * A guy at this troper's school is named Andrew Randwick. The Randy Andy jokes never end. * While visiting a cemetery, this troper came across a headstone for a man named "Richard Bump". Hopefully, no one called him Dick, but I wouldn't be surprised. * This troper's mother, who is a teacher, had a student whose first name was Mister. * There is apparently, according to this troper's roommate, a girl in Arizona named Farren Heit. * When this troper was in Jr. High, there was a substitute teacher he encountered on several occasions named Wanda Dick. Each time this troper had her for a class, she was pregnant. * This troper named her cat Mash before she had ever gotten it or put

"the cat" on it. And, to make it worse, my mom once joked about and added "with gravy.". * This troper used to know a girl called Annabel; her last name was Lee. Her grandfather, who lives in Illinois, shares a name -- George Ryan -- with one of that state's imprisoned ex-governors. Her college has a Thomas More and a premed whose last name is Pepper, and, in the physics department, a Dr. Hu. * This troper has a friend named Tom Green. * Spanish bonus: [[@/Flav10PM This Troper]]'s cousin once knew a redhead named "Susana Orias" or something like that. Everyone called her "carrot" (Susana Orias - Su Sanahorias - Su Zanahoria, which is spanish for "your carrot") * "Angelica" can't be that bad a name, right? Yeah. Try starting kindergarten when {{Rugrats}} is at its height of popularity. [[GenreBlindness When you've never had cable.]] * This troper had a French teacher in grade school with the last name "Le Bastard." Of course, everyone always pronounced as in French, obviously. There was also a teacher with the name Calvin Hobbes. * There was this kid in Junior High that used to make fun of me regularly (he apparently thought it would make him cooler). One day he was looking through his history book and was happy to find his name ([=McCarthy=]). Evidentially he didn't read what the name is famous for. * This troper has named her dog um, some conversial book title I never read that I won't named because I don't want to get in the crossfire. It was a good idea at the time. (I would named it something different, but I wasn't allowed.) * This troper's mother had an English textbook written by Dennis Gotobed. She also once knew a person named Odd-Even. * This troper's father had a student named Cheryl Mycock, or "C Mycock." * This troper had teachers named Mr Allcock and Miss Gunter when she was in secondary school. She also had a lecturer at college named Roger Moore. * I once heard of a Mr. Deathrage, disappointingly pronounced "dethridge." Could he win a fight with [[WalkyVerse Greg Killmaster]]? * This troper once met people who wanted their newborn son to be named Vercingetorix. The town hall registration office unfortunately deemed that name acceptable. * Back in college, this troper knew of a girl named "Vronique Toulemonde". Meaning Vro "shags everyone". * This troper works in retail, and lets say some names you see on credit cards and [=IDs=] make you wonder how badly one must've gotten beaten up at school. His favorite is a person who's last name is "Coward". Might as well be "Pickonme". ** Coward is a fairly common last name in this troper's hometown, though the usual pronunciation (more like Cowart) probably prevents a lot of beatings. * This troper has a classmate with an portmanteau name (the beginning of his mother's, and his two brothers' names), one which is basically a demonym (she had blue eyes, and her father named her "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussia Prussiana]]"; go figure), and

used to have a classmate with the same name as an TV actress/host. He has freshmen with some really weird names, but one is a special case: she's named Bruma (Portuguese for ''haze''), which wouldn't be bad... if someone named "Brisa" (''breeze'') wasn't approved in the same year. * Oxford University had several years ago a medical student named (Firstname) De Ath - unfortunately he left without becoming 'Dr Death' and apparently preferred to go by simply 'Ath', pronounced 'Att' as a surname (understandably). ** There is definitely a journalist at the Times called Roger Boyes. ** However a sailor acquaintance says it is definitely not true that the bosun of HMS Trafalgar (see UltimateDefenceOfTheRealm) is named Higgs, because you can't get a Higgs Bosun from a fission reactor. * There is a girl at this troper's school named Angel Slaughter. * A friend of this troper once encountered a man named BJ Puttbrese. I think he wins. Or loses, as the case may be. * This troper ran into some fun ones while student-teaching. Lyric and Memorie (no relation) are pretty-sounding, if odd. But you had to wonder about parents who'd name their little girl "Special". Or worse, "Titeeana" (and yes, her nickname was "Titty".) * A while back, when Chris Brown was all over the news for beating the snot out of Rihanna, A new student joined one of my classes. Three guesses to what his name was, And your three clues are that the females squealed when they heard it, the boys cracked up, and even the teacher couldn't help but smile...My school was weird. * ANOTHER ONE FROM ME, My last name sounds a lot like Frodo, to most people. Oddly enough, I love that, since I consider myself a Lord Of The Rings nerd. * I had a good friend with the name of Harrison Potter. Harrison ''James'' Potter. [[{{HarryPotter}} No points for guessing what he dressed up as for Halloween...]] * This troper has two sisters named [[HarryPotter Lily Evan]] and Brielle Mackeean. It would seem I have gotten off easy with the name Meg, but I happen to bear a spooky resemblance to [[FamilyGuy a certain other Meg]] and go to a school where quoting Family Guy is still considered funny. * One of my friends was "Adolf" and another one had the last name "Castro". A subversion since no one commented anything about the names (maybe too obvious to mention), as far as I know, in my country "Adolf" seems to be a very rare name and unrelated to that Adolf... ** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint Naming children after Adolf Warner is not a good idea.]] * A client for the company one of this troper's friends worked for had one of these. Since it was an official document last name came first resulting in it coming up: '''Oh, Hungman.''' * One of this troper's teachers in high school once told us about a student he had back in the early '80s: Scarlet Dick. Poor, poor girl. * This troper once found a name in her junior high's schedule book while writing a pass for a student. The poor child was named ''Sin'Chastity''. And yes, the apostrophe is necessary. *shudder* * Eric Shen. That is all. * This Troper had a vice-principle named Christmas Lee. Lee was his

last name. Say it quickly or in a chinese accent. * This Troper plans on doing the horribly mean thing, and naming his own kids on this principle. First male kid? Omega Erickson. No middle name. First female? Serenity. (Although, to be fair, I liked the name long before I watched the movie.) ** I like it too and don't see why it belongs on this page. * This Troper's mother works at a school. One of the kids names who's paperwork she had to do was, I kid you not, "[[ThePrincessBride Twuu Love]]". I had to pick myself up of the floor after seeing that. * This troper's friend's mother is a teacher who once taught twins called Neil and Bob. Their surname? "Down". * This Troper's high school has a sizable Asian population, so "Wang" is quite a common last name. Not too bad with the standard names, but there is one whose first name is Ivana... * This Troper's high school had a class unfortunately titled "Comparative Religions and Philosophies." Students had a tendency to loudly announce that they were off to "CRAP class." This Troper was not in the class and so didn't find out how the teacher reacted.... * My dad misspelled my name on my birth certificate. >_< * My Nutrition teacher's name is Pam Dick. This wouldn't seem so bad, except her school e-mail has to consist of only her first initial and then her last name. Think about that for a second. * I like looking through the phone book for names at times, and I found some real gems: [[Series/DoctorWho Russell Dalek]], Edwin Macadangdang, and Virginia Spector-Wippel. Really hoping that the last two get married so Virginia will possibly be named Virginia SpectorWippel-Macadangdang. * This troper went to middle school with a Gregory William Dye, often shortened to Greg Will Dye. * This troper has a cousin named Allister [=McAllister=]. * This troper works with someone named Bill Murray. * I was on the Quiz Bowl team in high school, and there was a team at the spring competition two of the three years I was in it that had a Jamie Wang and an Asad Butt. Their names were listed together, and they sat together. Wang, and Butt. There would have been more bad jokes if they weren't both awesome at what they did. * A very respected African-American minister for decades in this troper's city was Rev. Toy Ball. * While serving as assistant supervisor at a local office of the Cancer Federation, this troper encountered some...interesting names on our call list, among them Byron Burpulis, John Crotchula, Si Mai Wang and Phuc D. Ho. * This troper's friend goes to a rather preppy high school in an expensive suburban neighborhood, and one of her classmates is named Shelbi Ponce. * This troper's mother had a coworker whose daughter was a teacher. She had a Shitonme (pronounced Shi-tona-may) in one of her classes. He also has a fellow student at his college by the name of Richard Dean Martin. He's either Ricky Martin or Dean Martin. It's a case of pick your poison. * It seems like this troper's brother's friend's family have been pretty unlucky with their initials. Her brother's friend is named Will

Carter. Doesn't sound that bad, does it? Try to spell out his initials. Poor kid. Oh, and what about his mother - Juliet Carter, J.C - Jesus Christ, she must have been teased. His sister is Olive Fiona Carter - not bad at all, unless you're familiar with fanfiction, where OFC are often synonymous with Mary Sue. * During this troper's Army service, he was shocked one day to see a soldier whose name badge proclaimed her to be Holmes-Watson. * This Troper's name may not be as bad as some others, but it rhymes with: ale, snail, sail, shale, whale/wail, gale, bail/bale, nail, mail/male, veil, rail, tale/tail, hail/hale, jail, fail, pail/pale, quail, and [[CaptainObvious all other 'ale' sounding words.]] * This Troper's sister went to high school with a boy named Blaze Lightning Burns. This Troper's family is [[BullyingADragon probably lucky]] that this was not also a MeaningfulName. * This troper, watching the Australian election coverage, noticed a minor party candidate called Olga Quilty. * One of my nephews is called Guy, after a gorilla who had recently died at London Zoo. I can only assume that his father reckoned that by the time he reached school age, the gorilla would be long forgotten; fortunately he was right. * In junior high I knew a boy named Kirby. He got a few giggles thanks him sharing a name with a certain pink puffball. I also happen to share my first and middle name with a plant and a flower, respectively. I wouldn't be surprised if I end up marrying someone who shares their last name with a type of tree. * This troper knows a huge badass. Like, literally huge. He's six foot six, 260 pounds, plays rugby, and is proficient with both a broadsword and Northern Xiaolin Kung Fu. His name? Jack Bonner. I went into hysterics when I found out, and apparently I'm not the only one. ** Can This Troper make an assumption that the previous troper lives in Ireland (based on the name and Rugby playing)? Because "Bonner" is a slightly common surname from Irish descent families. This Troper knows several people (completely unrelated) with the last name here in the States, and it's always weird when people ask whether there's any immediate relation. [[spoiler:[[hottip:if you didn't catch it:, this troper happens to be one such person :(]]]] * This Troper has a teacher named Mr. Dyck. Yeah. He's told us that we can call him whatever as long as Mr. is in front of it, as he doesn't want us yelling "DICK!" down the hallways. * Only down here because it really is real life: this Troper's parents REALLY ARE named "Dick and Jane." When the family got a dog, the Troper and her brother were so sick of all the jokes that they threatened to run away their parents named the dog "Spot". * This Troper's grandfather's name was "Revilo Oliver [Troper]". Why "Revilo", you ask? ....What's "Oliver" spelled backwards? * I've seen someone with the last name "Peanushead". And yes, It's pronounced Penis head. * I have a college teacher with the initals "KKK". If that was not enough, her name is "Kelley Kline", which is one letter away from the name of a porn star, so the websites kelleykline.com and kellykline.com get mixed up. ** You don't mean KKK as in Klan KKK, don't you?

** Ku Klux Klan, yes. * I go to school with a guy named Sloan Bowen. That's pronounced SlowAn Bow-An. Poor kid. * My uncle was once scanning employee [=IDs=] at a security gate and had to refrain from laughing when he was passed one that bore the name "Holden Hiscock". * I met a Boy Scout at my place of work a couple of weeks ago. The poor lad's name, as stated on his name tag, was Randy Titler. * One of [[{{Tropers.Bergil}} my]] sister's high shhool teachers was named mrs. Mouha. Her DetractorNickname was mrs. [[EvilLaugh Mouhaha]]. * [[{{Tropers.LunaAvril}} I]] once saw a obituary for a woman named Mari Juana *surname*. [[IncrediblyLamePun What the hell were her parents smoking?]] * This troper had a biology text book in primary school, 'Living Things' by A. Slaughter. On the spine, of course, it omitted the initial to make 'Slaughter Living Things'. * This troper has a mild case; his first name is Carl. When's the last time you saw a Carl in movies or TV that wasn't either the gay best friend or some variety of skeezy pedo / sex offender? And [[ThoseWackyNazis don't get me started on]] [[XtremeKoolLetterz Karl]], either... It's like the exact opposite of a [[NamesToTrustImmediately name to trust immediately]]. * A friend of mine has told me that his father wanted to name him so that his first and middle names, when abbreviated into their most common forms, and combined were the same as his last name. Out of respect for his privacy, I won't say his name, but it would work like "Tom Smith Tomsmith." * This troper has a friend whose mother's name is Robin. Her maiden name? Hood. Oh, the jokes she got in school... * This troper once worked at a video store, and entered a customer application from Ray D. Burns. I sincerely hope the D. was by his choice; it stood for Diation. * Allegedly, this troper's father knew a certain "Dick Hurtse" * I remember looking through a phone book and finding one DonaldDuck. I couldn't help but think of all the crank calls the poor guy surely received. * This Troper has a family friend named Alex Abbot. This is a perfectly reasonable name. His brother, however, is named Peter. To make matters worse, Peter's wife has the given name Snowy. Snowy and Peter Abbot. Try saying that out loud. * This Troper once rode in a taxi driven by a man whose name, according to a name tag in the cab, was Good Luck Nazi. * This troper, in addition to her Dick Woodcock comment in the large Dick Something section above, has a kid in her choir class by the name of Hung. We found out recently that his middle name is Low, thus making him Hung Low. Here's the kicker: he happens to be gay, so he considers it "advertising" (though I guess it would be advertising regardless of sexual orientation), and claims that his parents are well aware of how it translates into English. ** And another one from me: I happen to be learning the Na'vi language (say what you will about Avatar, but I love it), and there's this one

Na'vi name generator on the Learn Na'vi forums. It's amazing, with over a trillion possible syllable combinations to help you choose a Na'vi name for yourself...and I mainly use it to find funny ones. So far, I have found Titsi (Titsy), Rutpxir (Root Beer), and Skxawng (as stated in the movie, Na'vi for "moron"). * One of my cousins is named Brietta, which got shortened to Bree as she got older, so by the time she hit high school everyone was calling her Cheese-face. I also went to high school with a literal Mary Sue, a girl named Renee Strokes, and know a friend of a friend named Richard Sticker. * [[Tropers/QuackorTheFowl This troper]] goes to a chatroom which recently went under a name change. The admin decided with [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal Kool Kids Klub]]...until I mentioned what the initials were. He then changed it to [[FunWithAcronyms Kool Friends Club]]...[[TakeThat and gave the Kool Kids Klub name to the secondary chatroom that everyone hates.]] * This troper knows of several: ** A teacher school named Richard Brodsack (He likes to joke about naming his future son "Harry") ** A boyfriend of a friend with the last name "Glascock". ** A friend of her little sister whose father's last name is "Wienerhold" and her mother's last name is "Rugg" - They combined the two and said friend of sister's last name is "Renner" ** A Victor Butts ** "Rock" is a family name (it comes from French-Canadian) ** Her cousin knows three ''seperate'' people with the names Lake, River and Pond. Now, River wouldn't be ''so'' bad (I've heard it before), and neither would Lake, probably. But ''Pond''? That's just terrible. Plus, they sound funny together. * This troper's mother once had a kid in her class whose last name was Shithead. It was pronounced "Shi-theed". * This troper heard about a guy named "Jihad". * This troper learned chem from a Mr. Fink with a Benjamin Dover, had an 8th grade science from a man named Robert Atkins (school email is first inital last name so he became ratkins). Her older cousin plans to name her future child Vladimir if its a boy and [[FinalFantasyVII Aerith]] if a girl (which while a pretty name, think of what happens to the poor girl...), knows a girl with the last name Weir (give her the weird jokes and she'll either beat you o laugh, depending on what side or her bipolarness we're on), a boy with the last name Koo (he has heard the Cuckoo jokes thousands of times), was invited to join all-city band by a Marcus Pimpleton, knows a kid whose first and last initals are [[DonkeyKong DK]] and whose middle name is Eugene, two boys with the last name Dumas (yes they've heard the dumbass puns), the older of whose initials spell CAD. She has learned english from a teacher called Bullock with a Chris Brown in her class, and probably others. * Phuc Dat Bich * One of my best friends goes by his middle name which happens to be Saddam. Yeah high school from 2001 onwards was a pain in the ass for him.

* My friend has an uncle named Adolf. He might be the only Austrian Adolf below 60. Seriously, were his parents asleep from 1939-1940?? ** A teacher of this troper's once had a student called Adolf Fureur. Yeah... * I have this cousin named Jplyzxykr who doesn't know how to pronounce his own name. Still, ''he'' got off easy. His twin's name is Gordon. ** What's so bad about being called Gordon? *** She's a girl. * This tropers name is German and if an anglophone tries to pronounce it, it sounds like `nightmare. * An ex-pupil's name at my school was John Raper. When some old pupils about 100 years ago got the chance to buy plaques on the back of chairs in the assembly hall, he apparently bought 7. * In middle school, our band teacher was also named Richard. His last name was "Long" Our drama teacher went to school with him and can vouch for the fact that it wasn't particularly uncommon to have an attendance taking teacher call out "Long, Dick" before they relized what they were saying. We also once had a substitute with the last name "Wykoff". It should be pronounced why-cough, not week-off OR whack-off. * This troper's sister knows a second-grader by the name of Tres Crapps. We both agreed that, while it is funny, you have to feel sorry for him once he gets to middle school. * This troper had a friend in high school who went by her last name, Vitti. While not that unfortunate normally, when said too fast it sounds a lot like "VD". Course when I asked where she got the name "VD" from, she responded "my father," making the whole thing far more disturbing. * One of my high school classmates was named Osama. This was before Osama bin Laden became a household name. I also had a biology teacher named William Gibson. There was also a pair of twins with the surname Dickhoff, and another brother and sister named [[{{Titanic}} Jack and Rose]]. * There's a girl at my school whose father is named James Bond. * There is a Richard Long and a Randy Harden in my music history class. The instructor and an immature student had a lot of fun with Richard's name on the first day. * Since you're free to name your protaganist whatever the hell you like in {{Persona 4}}, this troper went out of her way to name him Fanny Pack, and intends to do the same to the protaganist of {{Persona 3}} when she gets her hands on a copy. * [[Tropers.VmKid This Troper]] has a good friend whose first and middle names are [[{{Literature.Twilight}} Jacob Edward]]. All jokes that can be made already have been made. * A boy in this troper's music class is named [[{{PunnyName}} Reed Medley]]. No one else seems to have caught on, except for the music teacher. * My mom currently works with someone named Lovely. It's arguably not ''that'' bad, but it can be weird when you address her by name, since people who don't know her would just think you're calling her by a term of endearment (i.e. "Good morning, Lovely"). * I'm a guy, and my last name is Benedict. As in, related to the

actual English "House of Benedict". I've heard too many dick jokes to count. It's weird that nobody decided to joke around even more when they found out my middle name translates to "John". * {{Tropers/Anderling}} was born through a C-section. The doctor on duty at the time was Dr. Slager. "Slager" means "butcher" in Dutch. Guess where I live? * This troper's brother went to high school with a girl named Corona Beers * This troper goes by the Russian girls name "Manja" - which could be fine but... the troper is German. Her classmates thought it funny to spell her name "Mann-ja" (Man - yes). that is, they did it rather briefly, before they went directly to "Frau-nein" (Woman - no.). Additionally I ALWAYS have to make sure my name is spelled wit an "j" instead of an "i". I still wonder if my sister (responsible for the name) really hated her newborn sister so much. * This troper's sister used to have the Unfortunate initials of 'KKK'. * My mother and father thought it'd by adorable to name me and my twin Alexandra and Alexander and our last name of Thew is always mispronounced as Two. We were quickly named the Alex's Two throughout our school years. * A friend of mine from DeviantART has a doctor whose last name is Dedkeity. * This troper met a girl on one trip who went by Grace. When I was handed the list of people while the adults were dealing with other things, I learned that her name was Saving, and her middle name was Grace. Her twin brother, who went by Eugene, was simply named Eugene Cyril. I am not entirely sure what her parents were on when they were born. * I know a black kid with a condition that forces him to be overweight. His parents named him "Albert". See FatAlbertAndTheCosbyKids. * This troper saw a name on a class list that caused nearly everyone to start laughing. The poor kid's name? ''Mahboob''. The jokes were endless, but thank goodness they weren't there. * I have a co-worker whose maiden name was Quan Tran. Her married name? Quan Chan. ---Go back to UnfortunateNames, Eugene. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

Unicorn * This troper has a friend who is obsessed with unicorns, which is ironic since unicorns can only be approached by a pure virgin, and she's a nymphomaniac. ** Must be that horn... *** Or compensating by obesessing over such a symbol. Or an obsession that stemmed from when she was still a virgin (like many young girls) and just never went away. Or taking advantage of unicorns also being a symbol of horrible, sometimes ''very'' sexual [[TheFairFok Wild

creatures]]. Or any one or more of a number of things that can't be pulled up by a snap [[FreudWasRight freudian analysis]]. ---Grab the horse by the horn, go back to {{Unicorn}}. ----

Unishment * [[Tropers/FuzzyBoots My]] family repeatedly played out the issue with being confined to our room. Sure, we'd complain at first, but eventually my mom would come back to set us free and we'd be peacefully reading a book, having forgotten we were being punished.

UnitConfusion Strictly speaking, UnitConfusion is more [[TVTropesDrinkingGame egregious]] in films because you have plenty of time to look up what the real unit is. However, sometimes you come across someone who just doesn't know... ---* This Troper's grandfather was an engineer/scientist, but he also played the piano at church. One time, in front of an entire church sermon, the pastor turned to him and said "So Paul, just how many billions of lightyears away IS the moon?" How do you avoid embarrassing someone with a question like that? ** Eh, just reply in a decimal amount. That's not as much unit confusion as using an impractical unit when a better one exists. Lightyears is a measure of distance, after all. ** Referring to the number as "billions" is what makes it severe unit confusion. *** The answer to the original question is: 0.00000000000000004 billion light years away. *** On the original post: -facepalm* Similarly, this troper recently read a magazine article in which they said that "the difference was like the number of light years between the Earth and Mars", obviously not realizing that that would be almost zero. So yeah, they got that it was a measure of distance correctly, but really screwed up the scale. * This Troper's county government once decided to order an eighteenfoot meeting table, and somebody made the same screwup as the ''Spinal Tap'' Stonehenge model. Maybe they can use their new eighteen-inch table as a projector stand or something. * This troper once visited Las Vegas in the middle of summer. It was nice, but the heat was brutal, and when I came back home and complained about the 40-45 degree weather we had to slog through to get anywhere (because someone in our group was too cheap to get a cab), all my friends responded with confusion. "Oh, were you there during the winter? I thought you went last week?" Oops... forgot I was talking to Americans. * Inversion: One of this troper's college physics professors had a well-known habit of, if you failed to include units in your answer,

assuming that it was in furlongs per fortnight, on the grounds that no one would ever actually want to express something in furlongs per fortnight. A few years later, this troper noticed that the yarn she was knitting with came in 220 yard skeins...and she got through a few skeins every couple of weeks... ---This link will add one more KiloWick to Main/UnitConfusion. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnitsNotToScale Build something a little off? Fair enough. Tell us here. ---* [[{{Smerf}} This]] troper. The first words out of the doctor's mouth when he was born were not "congratulations, it's a boy" or (more likely) "Kill it! Kill it with fire!" They were "My God, look at the size of those shoulders." This is a trend that has continued through his life. Right now, his ring size is off the standard sizing charts, for example. * 1/32nd scale giant robots should not be 4 inches tall. Especially not Optimus Prime. oops. ** ''Transformers'' is no place for accurate scaling! <<|TroperTales|>>

UnkemptBeauty * Although [[{{Tropers/Joerc45}} this troper]] could [[{{YMMV}} arguably fit this trope]], sometimes, he had a crush on a girl who was the epitome of this trope. She's a {{Chaotic Good}} {{Cloudcuckoolander}} {{Pale Skinned Brunette}} with {{Rapunzel Hair}} (which is constantly frizzy and ruffled), constantly makes silly, unattractive expressions, seldom wears makeup, and wears clothing that would make the average person mistake her for a homeless woman. Despite this, she's unimaginably beautiful, [[QuirkyButCompetent smart]], and [[AdultChild fun to be around]]. <3 ** Ask her out some time, she sounds wonderful. ** Umm, how do you know this girl? Is she a co-worker of yours? * This troper isn't sure if she qualifies. The only difference between my look from when she wakes up and when she's out an about, is that she fixes her ponytail and has not slept in clothes. Make up is also a no-no. The most she will do is straighten her hair enough so it doesn't look like a ball of curls. * This trope is a part of why I find myself staring over women most guys tend to look over. It only makes dances and socials all the more rewarding. For most the sudden change to aesthetically pleasing is a shock, to me it's like the beauty I've already seen just got {{Turned up to Eleven}}. * This troper knows a girl who is not only very pretty without makeup, but prettier than she is with makeup. She is almost literally

breathtaking when she is just hanging out at home and hasn't bothered with it yet, but when she wears more than a tiny bit of makeup, she looks like a porcelain doll. * On a good day, this troper will wake up, look in a mirror, and (providing that the light hits her just right) tell herself that there is some truth to this trope. And then she puts on her contacts and her face goes from this -- :D to this -- D': * This trope fits me, according to my fianc. According to him, I look gorgeous without the slightest bit of makeup (even the lightest lipstick looks clownish on me, I'll admit), and my best look is apparently after I come back from a run: To me, I look sweaty, red, and my hair's a mess; to him, I look dewy, flushed, and my hair's all wavy and tousled; I'll want a shower and he wants to stare at me, which makes me blush and apparently adds to my appeal. It's not just him, either- everyone I know compliments me the most when I haven't done a damn thing to anything. * This troper knows a couple of girls who, darn them, look arguably better when they just got up. Mostly because they both have the most amazing curly hair that they insist on straightening. I honestly don't know if all this is a good thing. I'm [[LesYay a little conflicted]]. ** No, this troper's girlfriend also looks much better with her hair curly and untied. * Right here. Thanks to my young appearance and practically flawless skin, I can just wake up in the morning, not brush my teeth or anything (But that rarely happens) and interact with people as if I spent some amount of time taking care of myself. My hair is also nappy, so it tends to keep its form no matter what. Of course, I only say this because people have commented on my looks. In truth, I don't think I look THAT handsome. * Completely averted with this troper. My hair must be either curled or straightened at all times, or it looks like a formless puffball. And my skin is kind of zitty and gross so I have to make up for THAT. Also, I look a lot better with contacts than glasses. In short, try to avoid me right before I go to bed and right after I get up. * [[{{Tropers/SeanyGenovese}} This troper]] is not bragging, but he can be a pretty sexy beast if his hair is messed up in just the right way. Helps that he has a beard, only wears [[BlackMetal M]][[DeathMetal e]][[PowerMetal t]][[ThrashMetal a]][[ProgressiveMetal l]] band shirts and jeans(mostly [[ScaryBlackMan black]]). Is he speaking in the third person? [[HypocriticalHumor He believes so.]] * This troper is friends with a pale, scrawny girl with messy, curly, brown hair, and a wardrobe which is one part jeans and hoodies, one part RummageSaleReject, who regularly rants about the 'evils of makeup' and is a total CloudCuckooLander. She's one of the most attractive people I know. She once put on makeup and a pretty blue dress ad straigtened her hair and whilst she looked perfectly pretty, in a nondescript moeblob way, looked far better before. * This troper sometimes is a bit like this, though is also fond of dressing smartly, if eccentrically. I used to never comb my long hair (longer than usual for most boys where I live), however, this just made it fluffy and sticky-outy, so I had to stop that. My hair still is, however, quite wild and usually ends up concealing my face no

matter how much I push it back. I refuse to use gel or tie it back. I usually wear jeans, and the pair I'm wearing at the moment has one big hole at the knee. I insist to my mother that it still has plenty of wear left in it, and I think it'd be a waste to throw it away just because of a hole. Being a night-owl, I have permanent dark circles under my eyes,and usually seem a little bit unkempt or rumpled. but I do have a fondness for top hats, black shirts, steampunk clothing and my long green scarf. So, I suppose I'm kind of an unkempt gentleman? And I totally encourage this kind of look in girls. Do they really need makeup? Even though you are in desperate need of a brush and new clothing, [[UnkemptBeauty it's part of your appeal]]. (and {{what beautiful eyes}} you have!)

UnknownRival * This troper has a high school sports example. I went to Voorhees High School, part of a [[MeleeATrois three-way rivalry]] with North Hunterdon and Hunterdon Central...or at least, that's the way Voorhees and North Hunterdon students see it. I honestly get the feeling that Central doesn't give a shit about us. Then again, Central is really easy to hate, because they're just too damn good at sports. All sports. Well, ''almost'' all sports...there is ''one'' sport that Central recognizes us as a rival in, that beating Central in is actually ''just as important'' as beating North in, and that we tend to hold the upper hand in most of the time. [[ImplausibleFencingPowers Call it our specialty.]] ;-), * This troper closely follows the editions of another troper since he rarely posts anything worthy - it's usually related to his opinion, his fetishes, an edit missing the point of the page, and/or dumb jokes. When the "rival" [[{{Ptitlejtcwl8zg}} complains about the edits not being there anymore]], it's on TV Tropes as a whole - there's an example at BowdleriseDiscussion - so he probably doesn't know I exist. The fact that our countries have a rivalry turns it even more ironic. ** [[YouKeepUsingThatWord That's not]] {{irony}}. * In 6th and 7th grade I seemed to find a lot of people who ''really'' disliked me for unknown reasons, since I didn't recall talking to, meeting, or seeing them in any way. * This troper is the Unknown Rival to her seatmate in her calculus class. She celebrates when she gets a higher grade on an exam or quiz than he does and cringes in defeat when she doesn't...but he doesn't even know her name. Oh well. It's fun anyway. * This troper long ago declared a girl from my class my rival. She's very pretty, good with people, childhood friends with someone I've had somewhat of a love/hate relationship with, and we're both talented in all the ways the other is not. I'm pretty sure she has absolutely no idea that I feel this way. What's even more funny, my mother seem to be in a similar situation with her mother. * This troper once declared another actor her nemesis, after he took a part she had been after and the general consensus was that he was much better in the role. Later that year, his performance of Hamlet

(playing the title role, natch) went up two weeks before hers, in a better space, with more performances and better publicity. Of course he was never aware that there was a rivalry going on at all. * [[{{Phrederic}} I]] might have one, but I wouldn't know. * There is a girl in the grade below this troper. She is my bitter rival. She just doesn't know it yet. * This troper goes to Worcester Polytechnic Institute. This is our relationship with MIT. * This troper's college gaming club has a rivalry with a certain sorority on campus. Their rush events happen on top of our convention, so they're always painting over our advertisements. As far as we know, they're completely unaware that they're doing this. * In highschool This trooper had very good marks. One day a girl pretty pissed off yell at me: "Why you scored more than me if you dont study as hard as I do?" and left running almost crying. Aparently she tried to beat me in the tests since 2 years ago before that and never was able to. Right now is funny, but that day I didnt knew what to do: If ask her to be forgiven and making a new friend, or go for her and scold that chick down for beign such an asshole. I did the first. * This troper is one of these to a fanfiction writer she despises oh so very much, and even has an [[CrazyPrepared exact plan]] [[HumiliationConga of]] [[AxCrazy wihat]] [[BreakTheCutie she intends]] [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment to do]] once she meets said author. * In this troper's high school's theatre, this troper has a rival for parts in shows. Rivals because this troper and the other person are the tallest people in the theatre and seem to consistently try out for the same parts. This troper's rival is unaware of his position because he does not know this troper has tried out for those roles. this troper remeber some small kid who calles me brag boy i think his name his huntz hoont uh i forgot and some older girl being pissed at me for...something ---Who are you? [[Main/YouKilledMyFather I did what to your father?]] Hey, I don't know who you are, but you'd best get back to [[Main/UnknownRival where you came from]] right now! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnlikelySpare * I was the judge in my high school's production of ''Night of January 16th'', and during one heated attempt to bring the trial to order, the head fell off my gavel. I took it underneath my bench, fixed it, and brought it back out, explaining that "luckily I always keep spare gavels for such occasions."

UnlimitedWardrobe Do you or someone you know have a wardrobe large enough that it's suspect to have half goats and messianic lions behind it? TELL US!

---* When I was in the third grade one of my teachers wore a different pair of shoes every day. How is that even possible? * This troper's girlfriend's Spanish teacher (a Senora ''Gleason'') has never, [repeat for effect] ''never'' worn the same outfit twice. She started to notice after about two months with no change, and to this day, at least 7 months, she has not repeated an outfit once. The other students have apparently found out--because she's a bad teacher and just talks to the kids, in English, until the clock runs out--that her husband is a very high ranking executive at some company in Mexico. She teaches for the hell of it, which may explain why she doesn't do her job worth a damn. Perhaps it's just so she can come in and show a new outfit every day. Or '''something'''. Hell if I know. * [[Tropers/DesertDragon I once]] had a grade school principal like that. She was a great principal, but even the teachers noted that she almost never wore the same outfit twice in a year. I myself have been accused of this by my father. Um...he was helping me move and my clothes kind of took up the entire back of his van by themselves... * This troper's sister consciously decided never to repeat an outfit. That was several years ago, and to the best of this troper's knowledge, so far she's done it. * This troper has a friend who seems to very rarely wear the same clothes more than once a year. She has worn plenty of articles of clothing that seem to disappear after she wears them once. * This Troper belives her mother's Purses are this. I rember seeing some purses once than never again... * I've been told that my cosplay closet is something like this....I guess it makes sense, since I almost rarely never wear the same outfit to a convention more than once. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnluckyChildhoodFriend * This troper had told her friend that she had a crush on him. Note, this troper has had a crush before on this friend but it disappeared when she found another boy. She has NEVER been able to act normally around him, until a few years ago. Well, she told and he isn't interested in having a relationship. Though we've agreed to try and move forward as if nothing has happened, things have gotten very awkward now... Sad part is, this troper doesn't want to lose him as a friend... *sigh* * [[JohnnyBGoode This troper]] likes his best friend, who's not interested in him at all. We know each other really well cause we have this PlatonicLifePartners kind of deal. Since I know she's not interested in me, I decided to go for IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy and [[TakeAThirdOption just give up.]] ** Most people who've met us seem to [[ShipperOnDeck ship us too.]] Joy.

* This Troper has been in love with her best friend for YEARS, unable to move on. She's still holding out hope that someday her friend will realize her feelings for said troper. This is unlikely, but she can't let go...* sniff* ** Maybe you should confess? ** Seconded. Don't be like this UCF and wait TWICE for his best friend to find a boyfriend first, before getting up the nerve to confess to her. ** Tripled. They may be more receptive than you'd think; this troper was trying to get up his courage to confess to a friend of his when she made the first move instead, making him very happy. Better to try than to go on worrying. ** Fourthed, only this troper is saying it because some people - like yours truly - aren't good at picking up on hints. And if you're not hinting anything... what, do you think they know telepathy or something? ** Fifthed. I know I'm absolutely terrible with picking up hints (if there ever have been). For me, if the girl is interested in me she has to come right out and tell me as otherwise i'm not going to get it. ** Sixed. And good luck. ** Seventhed. It's actually harder to pick up hints from a friend. ** Eighthed. Do it. NOW. ** Ninthed. This troper learned that guys are also scared to confessbeing the manly gender and all * rolls eyes* It can be very hard to pick up hints. This troper and her best friend did not know that we liked each other until one of us spoke up. Now she is very happy with her boyfriend <333 Just give it a shot and tell him- you'll never know what will happen... ** Tenthed. [[ThisIsSparta DO. IT.]] [[JibJab NAOUGHW!]] Also, I hope that the above troper's eye rolling was expressing contempt toward the manliness DoubleStandard instead of telling just guys to man up... >_> * SEVEN YEARS. I have been dropping hints for seven years. I hang out with her, I chat it up, I use innuendo, I [[HandsOnApproach dance with her sometimes]], I bought her VALENTINE'S DAY GIFTS, and every single one of her friends know perfectly damn well. If she weren't so oblivious, I'd say she [[LysistrataGambit was doing this on purpose]]. Either way, it's depressing. ** This sounds exactly like my ex-best friend and me. He liked me, I acted oblivious because I didn't want to hurt his feelings since [[LipstickLesbian I]] [[IncompatibleOrientation couldn't return them.]] [[{{Understatement}} It did not end well.]] There's a whole paragraph on the Gaygnst page about it. * This troper is in love with his friend since early elementary, but right now, the girl [[SchoolgirlLesbians had a crush on another girl]] who moved away...and still does. * This troper had fallen for a childhood friend for years. It was up the 4th grade when she confessed even though she knew it was hopeless. After months of usual routine went by with no reply, she lied and said she had a crush on his neighbor. There was no reaction and as 5th grade came around she went on vacation and he moved out of state. Suddenly 2 years later when she moved, he came on a surprise visit even though he had no contact with her for 2 years. Within one night,

her feelings reawaken, but by morning he left without a word or contact again. Feelings lingered on and off until the end of her 9th grade year. * This troper only ended up making things go worse and worse after running into a childhood friend (from primary school) he had a thing for and hadn't got over it (he was a very shy and young dork at the time so didn't have much social interactions). Well, he was trying to sort out being friends with her, but thought he'd see if she wanted to go out sometime. However, let's just say he came on a bit strong and in hindsight everything that happened from her perspective just made me look clingy and a loser. He's now 20 and she works in a chip shop that he goes into sometimes. He pretends to ignore that her friends working there are still under the impression he is interested in her romantically and that he must be going in there especially to see her not even waiting until he have completely left before starting to make a joke. This is probably one of the worst ways unluckychildhoodfriend has gone in real life. She did admit that at the time we were in primary school she had some romantic feelings for him but there's a good chance it was her just being polite. * This troper remembers being madly in love with a girl he first met in the 1st grade. It was during a field trip to the school district museum and for whatever reason everyone was in line arranged by birthday; she was exactly two weeks older than me. Both birthdays fell in September and we were the only ones in that month, which according to the first-grader's social hierarchy made us pretty damn special. Even at that age where one can't even say the word "penis" out loud without giggling and the genders were divided between those weird rhythm-clapping games and pizza monsters toys, she seemed like a pretty special person. I was one of those boys was in the would-havebeen-awesome-in-ten-years class of being both the best friend of a girl and an honorary member of the class female clique. Looking back, it was like being the liason crossing enemy lines. We were in the same school, except for 6th grade, all the way through high school. We both pretty much feel back into type by the end of elementary school, when sports sounded like the cool thing to be interested in and she fell back into whatever girls do on the other side of the curtain. Through junior high we talked to each other one in awhile; ran into each other in the hall, gave advice on which teacher does what, that sort of thing. And in high school just kind of drifted apart. And not once, ''not once'', did I ever ask her out. * This Troper, now in college, had a friend in middle school, with whom I had a hilarious WillTheyOrWontThey SlapSlapKiss relationship, which sadly, remained unresolved until we graduated and moved on to high school. About two years later, the friend says "If you had asked me out yesterday, I still would have gone out with you." the very day of the start of her new relationship. This troper still kicks himself for letting that one go. * This trope fits ThisTroper relationship with a guy. We had mutual crushes on each other as children, but going to different schools and barely having any contact from middle school to high school. We were on-again, off-again a couple times for a while, but now we haven't made contact in months; the relationship has effectively ended. In

retrospect, we weren't actually that close in the first place; he was more emotionally invested in the relationship because he's insecure, shy, and afraid of letting go of an old flame that had gotten rained on years ago. * This trope is This Troper's life story. I've known this guy since we were both five. Ten years later, he's one of my best friends. I've liked him for about two years now, but he does not feel the same. I have no idea if he even knows I like him. However, he is going out with one of our mutual friends and I can't bring myself to hate either of them. It would be so much easier if the boy was gay. * This troper has been in love with the same guy for FIVE YEARS. The saddest part? He lives like 150 miles away. And neither one of us has a car. And gas prices suck. But here's the kicker: This troper has had more than a few chances to make a move, including spending an entire week together in the same house with next to no parental supervision. So basically, she just all around sucks. And she's contemplating going gay now because she hasn't found a more suitable guy in five years. (She's found a few females she can deal with, one of which plays the UnluckyChildhoodFriend in our relationship.) * This troper is teetering on this, since she doesn't actually know exactly how she feels about him. She has on and off moments where she thinks she likes him as more than a friend, but other moments when she thinks not and considers what she does feel as mere concern. However, if she does like him more than a friend, she was told (in a halfjoking manner) by him in a casual conversation that because they've been friends for so long (since they were at least 7 or 8, and they're turning 19 this year), they probably could never make a romantic relationship work. At that point, this troper decided to give up on any decisions to persue, and only hopes he doesn't hook up with a certain someone she doesn't like... * Admittedly, this troper's just looking for sympathy here, but his story goes as follows: This troper has only ever fallen in love once to this day, and it's with his best friend whom he met in (if he remembers correctly) middle school. The friendship turned into a crush during high school, but by the time this troper realized he had a crush on his friend, his friend was already in a relationship. Then they broke up, leaving this troper a wide open opportunity. This troper confessed his feelings, but this troper is also an idiot. [[WhatAnIdiot A big, dumb, complete frickin' idiot.]] So he didn't actually ask his friend out after he confessed, because he thought that he could wait until the end of the semester when they would have more free time to spend together. He didn't even think for a second that his friend could meet another guy and start dating again. But it happened, resulting in TriangRelations of type 4 (or possibly type 7, but 4 is much more likely). And to make things worse, this troper [[strike:suspects they might be]] found out they are [[UnusualEuphemism discussing Uganda]]. Meanwhile, this troper has never wanted to come between his friend and anybody said friend might love, since IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy. Sigh... * We'd been best friends since third grade, and even though we were geographically separated in middle school we kept the friendship up. Puberty hit, along with sexual identity issues, and [[{{Zeppelin}} I]]

discovered I was bi. Some time in high school we spent a week together with little to no parental supervision. Cue confession. Turns out she's [[LikeBrotherAndSister not]] [[{{Asexuality}} interested]]. * This troper is in a bit of an interesting situation with her best friend. We're in a sort of HeterosexualLifePartners relationship - a touchy, huggy, random-goodnight-kiss-on-the-forehead (from the friend, not this troper) relationship. Problem: this troper has a crush on said best friend. Second problem: this troper is dense. Very, very dense, and cannot differentiate others' platonic from romantic behavior. This troper will also never say anything, because this troper only has a few close friends (read: two). In short, this troper is [[strike:in a bit of a jam]] abso-f** king-lutely screwed. * This troper met her best friend in middle school, during which he had a (pretty obvious, but never discussed) crush on her. Three years later, after going to different high schools and his moving crosscountry, cue role-reversal. Now he's back and she'd love to confess, but is convinced she lost her chance with him years ago. * This is making me cry... ManlyTears * This troper is the UnluckyChildhoodFriend caught in a LoveTriangle where EveryoneCanSeeIt on both sides though we are the FanPreferredCouple of our youth group (Yes, they are the kind of people to ship the regulars) despite the fact we are JustFriends (though we've had a few SheIsNotMyGirlfriend moments) and if we ever did get a RelationshipUpgrade it would probably involve some SlapSlapKiss and, my luck, end in BetterAsFriends. And he knows all of this. Is there a TVtropes ''Is'' My Life trope? * Sometimes, it really sucks to be on the other end of this. I lost one of my best friends (since I was about three) when she confessed and I rejected her. We tried to keep the friendship thing going but it was just awkward. I still feel bad. ** I'm in the same boat, pal. * This troper's only crush/possible first love was with my childhood friend. We've had a few times of CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, such as the time this troper sent him a carnation for Valentines Day, or the time he chose her over a male friend in a trust exercise. Unfortunately, we were in a LoveTriangle position although we all remained very good friends. This troper and the other girl knew how the other felt, yet we were okay with it. Later, the other girl moved and so this troper thinks she had a good shot of telling him how she felt (not really caring whether or not he felt the same way), only for him to turn into a a complete jerk and for him to have a long distance relationship with the girl. This troper thinks things worked out better this way. * This troper has an interesting story, that transcends a couple of tropes I guess. So, of course this male troper has a female best friend who is pretty hot and has been one of his best friends for half his life, and it started out with him having a crush on her. I could never have told her about that, though she might have figured out at some point, real good question that I don't know the answer to. At some point though, I came to view her as only a friend, to the point that now I genuinely view her platonically. Weird huh? * This troper. Mostly thanks to a very limited palette of expressible

emotions. * This tropette is leaning on this so, so very much. She has a crush on her best female friend, whom she has known since she was 5. Only now, 8 years later, I understand I love her. Only problem? She's straight. Thus, I can never act upon or confess my feeling for her, because she'd instantly turn me down. Even worse, rumors are now going around that I am a bisexual, which, while is true, I can't really accept because I'm in a small Catholic school where everyone knows everyone. So now, the hug that I gave her when I saw her that used to be the highlight of my day is a "no-no." * A six year crush didn't work out so well for this Troper. Turn out... that entire time... he was talking about another girl. We're 'just friends'... but thankfully this is actually working for us. * This troper had a crush on her one childhood friend, but ended up moving and nothing came from it. However, she did meet a new friend in her new town that ended up being her boyfriend, so it's all good. * This troper has had a crush of over 4 years on the sister of his lifelong childhood friend. The problem is that both of us are lacking in self-esteem and my recent attempts at establishing contact have been met with timidness. I don't want to push her but this point I just want a conclusion, whether it is victorious or unlucky. * I recently felt this trope in full force. I realised that I actually like a female friend (who I've known since I was seven) more than I thought I did. She's single (and, to the best of my knowledge, has always been), so should be easy to ask her out, right? Wrong. Whenever I've tried to talk to her, I've never been able to think of a way of bringing it up without seeming blunt and, on top of that, I know that, if I try to bring it up, I'll not be able to spit it out. Since we are basically Opposite Sex Clones, however, I suspect the relationship would be...difficult, [[ShrinkingViolet considering the type of person I am.]] * This troper has a pretty big crush on a male friend of hers, whom, because the universe hates her, she happened to meet because her best friend wanted to set the two of us up. He somehow found out (he credits his amazingness) and told me that [[LikeBrotherAndSister he saw me as a sister.]] * This troper has been absolutely flat-lined by a crush on her best friend for almost two years now. It recently has come out that my feelings are reciprocated, but he's too afraid to do anything about it because "he cares about me too much as a friend" and "doesn't want to ruin anything." I wish he hadn't told me my feelings for him weren't just one-sided, because it'd be a lot easier to give up on him that way. As it is, I'm trying as hard as I can to but I can't. * This troper had a crush on a [[CuteShotaroBoy cute]] boy back in 4th grade when she was a NewTransferStudent - it helped that this boy had also transferred to the same school a few months before I did, so we had something in common. We became good friends, but I could never tell him how much I loved him. He left middle school sometime during the winter break when we were in sixth grade, and I spent the next 5-6 years in agony, wondering what had happened to him. (Those years he was gone from my life were also the same years I got badly picked on in school, almost to the point I had contemplated suicide, the desire

to see him again and finding out what happened to him was what ultimately kept me going in my life.) I wasn't reunited with this boy until my senior year of high school, when we got put in the same study hall first day of fall semester, and by then he had gone from [[CuteShotaroBoy cute]] to [[SheIsAllGrownUp He Is All Grown Up]]. On the second day of school I asked him if he had any plans for the weekend, and he said he was planning on spending time with his girlfriend. As happy as I was to see him again, I couldn't bear to be The Other Girl in his relationship, and I had no idea if his girlfriend was a [[ClingyJealousGirl clingy jealous]] {{Yandere}} or not. I ended up spending the majority of my senior year avoiding him primarily because [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy I felt I had no right to destroy his happiness or decide who he could or should hang out with]]. In hindsight, his girlfriend was probably relatively normal and sane since she let me get a picture of her boyfriend and me on the last day of school, and additional hindisght that comes with being an adult has made me realize a serious romantic relationship with my crush would never work out in more ways than one. * This troper is effectively falling for one of her best friends. And unfortunately for this troper [[BiTheWay she's]] [[IncompatibleOrientation straight]]. For the record, them knowing you like them and them being completely okay with it and you're still friends.... still isn't the happiest situation. {{All Love is Unrequited}} * This troper has a huge crush on his friend that he has known since the first grade. Unfortunately [[HaveIMentionedIAmGay he]]'s probably [[IncompatibleOrientation straight or asexual.]] It also is unfortunate because we go to different schools now. However this troper's crush on his friend is [[HappilyFailedSuicide vastly overshadowed]] by his recent [[UnrequitedLoveLastsForever unrequited]] [[StalkerWithACrush love]] [[LoveMakesYouCrazy for two]] [[AllLoveIsUnrequited other guys.]] * This troper has been in love with one of her best friends since the fourth grade. Six years later, I finally confessed. He admitted that he likes me back, but we're both carless fifteen-year-olds living thirty minutes apart, and he's unwilling to risk a (not very) LongDistanceRelationship. It's hard to get over someone when you know there's still a chance.... * This troper met a girl in middle school and [[LoveAtFirstSight instantly adored her]]. She was the first girl (or boy, for that matter) she ever felt this way about, and two years later they're best friends. Recently this troper [[ComingOutStory came out as a lesbian]] to her parents, and admitted her feelings to this girl. Well...she learned rejection hurts a lot. However, she is still best friends with this girl and writes odes and sonnets about her. This troper doesn't think she'll ever "get over her", but this girl [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy deserves someone better than this troper.]] * This MtF troper has been friends with a girl since 5th grade. This troper's been in love with her off and on for a few years now, not that this troper can ever tell her. We have religious differences, and she's not exactly... tolerant of people who are trans or aren't straight, so this troper can't ever come out to her, which hurts

because we're best friends. In fact, this troper brought up dating once (jokingly) and she said that she could never like me because this troper is her "brother and it would be too weird." She's four years older and has a boyfriend she intends to marry. [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy I've given them my best wishes because I know he's better for her than this troper.]] As much as this troper cares about her, she's been one of the biggest contributors to this troper's current ongoing depression. * This troper has known her best friend since she can remember. She's not quite sure when she started having feelings for her, but the troper knows for sure, [[IncompatibleOrientation that it's never going to happen.]] * This troper happened to be letter B in a LoveTriangle with A as Childhood Friend (and almost literally GirlNextDoor). Despite how much she attempted to gain this troper's affections, his heart was set on C who returned his feelings yet was also close friends with A and knew how much A adored this troper. Consequently, when this troper confessed to C, she rejected him and asked him to reconsider A's affections. This troper was heartbroken and vehemently rejected A. Three years of friendship rebuilding later, this troper has begun to grow feelings for A and they have become close friends again, yet A will no longer think of this troper as more than a close friend. * This troper. Hung up on a girl for about 2 and a half years. Asked her out. Got rejected. Aah teenage years...still, got the rest of my life ahead of me so I figure there's no point getting hung up about her any longer. * [[{{Tropers/Joanassie}} This troper]] had one real friend since kindergarten, a GenkiGirl who he played Osananajimi to, somehow. The two of them had such fun together. They even shared a first kiss... Unfortunately, the Genki Girl friend had to move away sometime around 4th grade. She recently found this troper on facebook, and told him about how her life has been empty since she moved, which is unfortunate seeing as ''she'' is the one who's gotten married since then. '''This troper''' is the Unlucky Childhood Friend, yet he's still the one with all the (empty) luck. * This troper, if only for now. Thanks to being inept at being in relationships for 14 years, when he finally got old enough to have girls like him, he led one on. In fact, [[WhatAnIdiot he led]] [[JerkAss TWO on.]] Unfortunately for him, idiot as he was, the second one who liked him had a best friend. This best friend is this troper's best friend's sister, and come a few months later, he realized he was head over heels for her. The issue? Well, beyond the awkwardness of the brother situation and the issue of her best friend, her condition as a {{Shrinking Violet}} and his tendency of being completely overbearing and rushing things resulted in an awkward situation for a month where it was nothing but {{UST}} that was broken by [[ShipperOnDeck this troper's acquaintance.]] She broke up with him rather justifiably in 9 days. This troper has, rather effectively and systematically, ruined our friendship, not only with her but largely with her brother, both of whom this troper has known since he was 5. Alternately, this entire story could probably go under [[WhatAnIdiot What an Idiot.]]

Go back to UnluckyChildhoodFriend. I'll try not to cry...(insert waterworks here) -------<<|TroperTales|>>

UnnamedParent * This troper remembers being rather bothered in his younger years when a classmate referred to his parents by name. Of course, he was trying to sound more grown-up. * This troper protects the innocent when telling family stories to friends by replacing all given names with the person's relation to her. It gets awkward when the stories involve sisters- and brothersin-law. Or clearly identifying one of multiple half-brothers. * This troper had a great-grandmother that everyone referred to as Gama. This is due to this troper's mother butchering the pronunciation of "grand mere" (French for grandmother). * As a child, this troper would call her parents by their first names exclusively when she was angry at them. * Pick a school playground, any school playground, at home time. After a year of my daughter being at school, there are still lots of parents I know as "[Name]'s Mum/Dad". ** Ten years after this troper left high school, her mom still enjoys being "[Troper]'s Mom". * This troper gets weird looks from his friends when talking to family members, since we are all on a first name basis. * When saying "Mom." fails twice, I just yell, "Tracy!". That generally gets her attention. I also have a few aunts and uncles that I feel awkward saying "Aunt [Name]" or "Uncle [Name]", so I just refer to them by their name. * For a surprisingly long time (five or six years), this troper was convinced that her parents were actually called Mum and Dad. ** I thought the same, and that my grandparents were named Grandma and Grandpa. * My mum prefers to be called either "Mom" or "Sam", but I call her by her real name, [[{{TroperTales/UnfortunateNames}} "Maureen"]]. * My mother has recently started referring to her husband/my father by his first name when talking about him with me, as opposed to calling him "Dad." This gets complicated with her father/my grandfather, whom she occasionally calls "Grandpa," "Dad" or his first name. * I feel awkward calling any adult by first name. It's gotten to the point where I always word my sentences in a way where I don't have to use names, no matter who I'm talking to. Unfortunately, it makes asking after people awkward, because I don't remember their names because I don't use them. ** This Troper is not alone then. * Our family always referred to our grandparents as "Grandma" and "Grandpa" and we had nicknames for all of our other relatives ("Butch", "T'Annie (Aunt Annie)", "Beetle (Bailey)", etc). My friends were all computer programmers who went more often by their nicknames as well (as did I). This infuriated my wife to no end when we were

doing the guest list for our wedding. "What's your dad's mother's first name?" "Uh, grandma?" * This troper's girlfriend calls troper's parents "Mr Troper's-Dad Sir" and "Troper's Mum". * This 17-year-old troper still doesn't know the first names of two of her great grandmas, whom she always calls G.G. (Just about everyone in the family calls her that), and Great Grandma *Troper's last name*. It's also the mark of a really good friend when I manage to learn my friend's parent's names. * This troper, when he was very young, used to actually think his parent's names were "mum" and "dad" and couldn't possibly concieve of the idea that they were something else before they were his parents. ---Go back to UnnamedParent, whoever you are. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnnecessarilyLargeInterior * I have a friend who has, like, the biggest house I have ever been to. It's almost half as large as our school, and since he doesn't have any siblings, he's got an ''entire floor'' for him. However, the house is almost completely empty. The only thing that guy owns besides necessary things like a bed or a desk is a drumset and a piano, which still take almost no space given the size of the house. ---Take yet another mile to go back to UnnecessarilyLargeInterior. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnnecessaryCombatRoll * This troper was once standing with a friend waiting for a third person to join us at the cinema. When he arrived, he walked quite normally towards us until he reached a short flight of stairs, at which point he broke into a full pelt run, leapt all the stairs in a single jump, hit the ground and went into a combat roll... before standing up, calmly walking the rest of the distance towards us and greeting us with a casual "Alright?" as though nothing had happened. Laugh? We nearly died. * This troper occasionally pulls this while playing tag to no effect. She has faith that it will work as at least a distraction one day... * I would occasionally dive and roll during a game that was like a combination of freeze tag and capture the flag. A few days ago I also dived and rolled to try to get a book that was near my parents without being seen. I'm still shocked that they didn't notice me. * ThisTroper, having played waaayyy too much damn [=MGS2=] and Syphon Filter, did a bunch of rolls during Laser Tag. * This troper has earned the nickname "Barrel Roll" from her laser tag team for this exact tactic. * This troper did this once in airsoft, succeeding only in getting him

and a teammate shot. It was never repeated. ** It worked way better for this troper, who managed to avoid getting shot by doing it. I actually did it 3 times in a row. I play wayyyyyyy too much Legend of Zelda. * [[{{gadeel}} This troper]] tried this once during an airsoft match during his ROTC when he came upon a superior officer at a stairwell. It did not help, as his roll caused him to hit the side-railing and the disorientation from the fall was long enough for him to get shot. [[MoreDakka A lot]]. * This troper did one in a sparring match with a friend. I even planned it all out: He charged me, I rolled to the side and ended up behind him, striking him in his side. Then I felt pain on my forehead. Turns out that he was aiming for my soldier, but due to my roll, he smacked me right in the forehead on the way down. It would've worked, but my friend got a natural 20 on his attack roll, so he got a guaranteed hit anyway.[= :\=] ** This troper thinks that the above story changed halfway through and is really confused. *** I'm pretty sure he just typo'd "shoulder", which makes the D&D reference more obviously a metaphor. * This Troper was once watching a play, which had some of her friends in it. Anyway, (as she learned afterwards), two of said friends came on, in a scene that they were not in. So whereas one friend, just continued walking, until they were off, the other friend went and sat down.....before doing a professional army roll off. We were all in stitches about it afterwards. * This troper did an unnecessary combat ''spin''. At the Otronicon convention, the Hard Knocks facility (basically like laser tag, but much cooler and more tactical) had a section set up where four players could try it out. It was a small area, only about five yards in length with a barrel in the middle and a stack of crates on the right for cover. This troper ended up against a 7-year-old, both with massive rifles (This troper had a model of the ''Alien'' pulse rifle, and the kid had an M16). They ended up at nearly point-blank range, and this troper managed to dodge almost all the shots simply by twisting his body to move his sensors out of the way of his infrared blasts. During one of them, while waiting for his gun to reload, he bounced back, spun on his heel (he's a ballroom dancer) and came back around, firing. It would have ended in a tie, but he stopped right as the match ended, while the kid kept shooting and got this troper's last life. * [[KingSonnDeeDoo This Troper]] was watching a play put on by the local college, which had a couple of her friends playing parts in it. In one particular scene, the two friends came on, but then realised that ''this wasn't their scene''. So whereas one just kept on causally walking till they were off, the other friend sat down next to one of the props (a chair), and then ''rolled'' off. Needless to say, when said troper learnt the full story behind their actions in that scene, she was rather amused. * [[ShadowPanther This Troper]] was setting up his tent for the Duke of Edinburgh when another person in his group let a bag blow away. It was closer to me so I went to pick it up but instead, for reasons

unknown to me, I ran and dived for it, combat rolling once I had it. The general reaction was "WTF?" followed by amusement. * This troper's Stage Combat course thrived on making utterly unnecessary rolls. * [[ROBRAM89 This troper]], just tonight, tried to get out of a room while being blocked by his girlfriend by yelling "SHATNER ROLL!" and tumbling sideways across the bed. I managed to roll so slowly she walked around the bed and boxed me in again. * This troper saw a kid do this in his English class today while going to get a test paper. ** This troper may have been the one to perform that roll, No wait it was a history class... both times. * This troper once performed an UnnecessaryCombatRoll in a pub, but can't for the life of him remember why. ---Recruit, what the '''HELL''' do you think you're doing?! ARE YOU TRYING TO BE A NINJA WITH THAT [[UnnecessaryCombatRoll LITTLE ROLL OF YOURS?!]] ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnPerson * [[{{Tropers/HG131}} This Troper]] got unpersoned. The Escapist mods can delete your account if they want to, with no need for you to break a rule to do so. I disagreed with Spinwhiz, so he deleted my account. Two fucking years, 9300 posts were wiped from reality because of that motherfucker. * [[{{Tropers/Betterthanstrawberry}} This troper]] was once in school with a gold digger (yeah...) who was also supposedly fond of bullying other female students. After she left, she was edited out of all digital copies of school pictures with her in it and might or might not have been replaced with pictures of an attractive foreign exchange student, and every time someone mentioned her, we would just say, "Who?" * Milder examples would be those relatives you don't like to talk about. For example, [[{{Tropers/TheJerkwithNoName}} this troper]], his mom and two older sisters grimace at the mere mention of my dad, and we don't talk about him unless we're cursing or making fun of him. This tends to confuse relatives (especially those from his side of the family) who don't know why exactly he and my mom divorced and they tend to ask why we're so cutoff from him (the general opinion being that he's, at least, an okay guy who's a screw-up). We don't really explain because, seriously, we DON'T like talking about him! Hell, I don't even like saying his name or his nickname. It wouldn't matter if he died tomorrow, even horribly; he's been dead to us for more than a few years now. * This half-Russian troper had a lot of family live in Soviet Russia under JosefStalin, and has found very old family photographs in various drawers at home with the faces scratched out. According to her mother, [[ParanoiaFuel even so much as being seen in a photo with one

of these scratched out faces was dangerous.]] * This troper treats her father this way. He deserves it for what he did. ** This troper treats her father this way as well. * I'm treated this way by some hypocritical, self-righteous people whom I called "friends" once. ** Hi, are we the same person? * My ex-girlfriend has become this, to the point where mentioning her name is met with one of us saying "She never existed." Could be a over-reaction, except that she stabbed every one of us in the back and tried to get one of us to kill themselves as a multi-year XanatosGambit. So yeah, who? * This troper's former place of employment has apparently done this to her. She was forced out of her position and from what she understands, she has been excised as much as possible from all records and is rarely if ever mentioned by the people there. It's pretty sad when she explains that this former place of employment is also her ''church''. * This troper has been unpersoned by not only her ex-boyfriend, but the people she thought were her friends. Said troper was unpersoned because she apologized for a joke she can't remember that involved CATHOLICS of all things! This unpersoning may have been the actual result of jealousy; seeing that said ex-boyfriend was a [[ImaginaryLoveTriangle close]] friend to the [[ClingyJealousGirl cousin]] of subject of said joke, who used this as fuel to paint me as a manipulative slut, when I was actually a naive every girl who said corny joke after joke and desperately wanted to please everyone. May even be an inversion because said troper can't even stand to be in the same room with these people. ---Main/UnPerson? Nope, never heard of anything like that. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

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* [[TroperTales/UnpleasableFanbaseWebcomics Webcomics]] * [[TroperTales/UnpleasableFanbaseWebOriginal Web Original]] * [[TroperTales/UnpleasableFanbaseOther Other]] [[/index]] ---Go back to UnpleasableFanbase, you unpleasable troper. ----

UnpleasableFanbaseAnimeAndManga * The ''{{Naruto}}'' fanbase. After 85 solid weeks of bitching about the endless filler, they are now dissecting every facet of ''Shippuden'' with a passion. For example, people that dislike Sasuke don't just claim it's a [[SpotlightStealingSquad case of author favoritism]] but actually say he has a PerverseSexualLust for his own character. ** And there's plenty members of the show's EstrogenBrigade that hate ''any'' female except Tsunade and Temari because "[[GirlsNeedRoleModels they're not strong enough]]" and accuse Kishimoto of being biased against women... [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses while they act even]] ''[[RealWomenNeverWearDresses worse]]''. ** And let's not get started on complaints concerning Naruto's portrayal and how main characters ''have'' to be awesome [[BoringInvincibleHero and effortlessly better than everyone else]]. *** And then when one arc really gives him time to shine everyone complains about everyone else being "useless". ** There's also people that have a liking for some of the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters and thus hate anything involving ''the main cast'', generally assuming any secondary character with only a vaguely established personality would automatically make for a more interesting story than one about a well-established one that has opportunities for CharacterDevelopment (ignoring any problems ''that'' story might have with its execution, or what it could even be about). Really, way too many people fall into the trap of judging the quality of stories as bad the second they find out it's about a character they don't like. ** Chapter 449 is a primary showcase: People complained about [[spoiler:Kakashi, Fukasaku, and even Shizune dying]] but when [[spoiler:they end up coming BackFromTheDead]], people were still upset that [[spoiler:the characters couldn't "evolve" from these characters' deaths.]] ** Almost any time [[EvilEye the Sharingan]] is used in a battle you'll have people complaining about it being [[SuperpowerLottery overpowered]] and it being [[KryptoniteIsEverywhere continually]] [[TheWorfBarrage useless]]. ** Naruto and Sakura's recent decisions regarding Sasuke get quite a bit of this. Naruto is criticized for initially breaking down over [[spoiler:the order to kill Sasuke]], but then gets criticized again when he regains his resolve and plans on bringing Sasuke back himself. Similarly, Sakura gets attacked for [[spoiler:trying to kill Sasuke herself, and then for not being able to go through with it]]. [[ShiptoShipCombat And don't even get fans started]] on her

[[spoiler:claiming to love Naruto, only for him to denounce it as a lie]] in Chapter 469... * ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'': fans were pissed with the TV ending, then they were upset over the film's redone ending (your mileage varying on whether or not Director Anno was screwing with the fans doesn't help). They were upset that there is no merchandise for ''Evangelion'' then they're pissed when there is. They don't like how dark and depressing the series is, then scream about the levity of the commentary (which had to be done otherwise the people behind it would have slit their wrists). Some fans treat the show as serious business, turned up all the way to eleven. ** And let's not even begin on the FanDumb rage over the ''{{Rebuild of Evangelion}}'' movies, or the AlternateUniverse high school mangas. * Anime {{Dubbing}} and translation in general. Especially the [[SubjectiveTropes debates]] surrounding which dubs are {{Woolseyism}}, {{Macekre}}d, or a PragmaticAdaptation. ** For one good example, a thread discussing the announcement trailer for the ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' dub devolved into this before any actual dubbing had taken place. No actual voice acting was featured in the trailer (being a humorous overview of the series with fast-talking narrator), so the commentators immediately started criticizing the announcer, and theorizing that the dub was so bad they didn't want to show any of it. A second trailer was eventually made with Simon and Kamina. *** On at related note, there are a ridiculous number of people condemning the dub based ''entirely'' on Kamina's voice. ** There will always be a group who completely hate any dub despite the quality. This includes even respected dubs like ''CowboyBebop'' and ''SamuraiChamploo'' and the Disney produced dubs of StudioGhibli films. For them, having Chihiro in ''SpiritedAway'' say "It's a bath house?" in a scene that originally had [[LullDestruction no dialogue]] is unforgivable. They will ignore any defense that western audiences wouldn't recognize a Japanese-style bath house without that comment. Never mind that HayaoMiyazaki approved the dubs. *** There are even those who have been excessively overcritical on the voice actors involved in the Ghibli dubs, claiming that they have "utterly destroyed" the characters and the movies they're in just because they're celebrity stars. Even when the trailer for the newest movie, ''Ponyo'', was released, there were people already planning to hate it simply because it casts two iconic child stars as the child protagonists. ** Then there are the dub haters that insist on continuing to download illegal fansubs for shows rather than buy legitimate subtitled releases. The companies can't win either way. *** This also extends to North American anime companies in general. [[FanDumb Some so-called fans]] insist that [[{{Macekre}} industry practices]] are the same as in the 90's (regardless of mountains of evidence to the contrary), and will use ''any'' perceived slight as an excuse to boycott a company forever, even if the company fixes the problem that was being complained about in the first place. Every company releasing anime has this to some extent, but {{Funimation}} seems to have really fallen victim to it. So has VizMedia, albeit with

a bit more justification. ** And ''{{Gundam 00}}'' fans have already started to whine about the dub. Specially over Haro's voice. HARO'S VOICE! Oh, and how dares Alex Zahara say "Stratos" as "Stratus". *** In the case of ''{{Gundam 00}}'', director Seiji Mizushima actually called the audience out as an UnpleasableFanbase in one interview, saying (paraphrased): "The people on the Internet who complain about the show were going to hate it no matter what I did, so I don't really care about their opinions." ** ''OnePiece'' dubs. Understandable when 4Kids was at the wheel, but Funimation was also considered "not good enough" by a number of fans. 4Kids haters say those voices were too silly and didn't fit the characters at all. Meanwhile, Funimation haters say their voices are bland, too serious, and generic. *** On that note, Streamline's previous dubs of ''Akira'' and ''Laputa'', both produced for the Hong Kong market but briefly released here, were often derided by fans. Ironically enough, when there were new dubs produced for both of these films by Disney, many of those same naysayers said that the OLDER dubs are better and totally trash the new versions, shooting down any arguments of benefit that the new productions may have. [[FanDumb It's an argument that still rages on. If you happen to mention you like the new dubs of these movies to any of these hardcore fans, beware; they'll rip you apart for doing so, never shutting up about how bad they think the new dubs are and why you're wrong.]] (Actually, this could also count as InternetBackdraft) ** Some theorize that a lot of the dub hate is about people trying to rationalize their anime piracy. They pirate it before it's licensed, but when it ''is'' licensed, [[CommonKnowledge everyone knows]] the dub will be terrible (usually before a single casting, let alone any recording, has actually been done, no less), so they won't buy the Western home release. [[CompletelyMissingThePoint And then they complain that dubs cost too much.]] *** Some take it a step further, and make it a point to insult and berate those people who actually like English dubs and/or support legitimate releases. Many dub fans, sick and tired of being flamed, simply avoid any discussion of anime outside their own circles, making it seem like there are no dub fans on the internet (or anywhere, [[SarcasmMode since as we know, all anime fans spend their lives online]]). * The ''DeathNote'' Fandom. Definitely. It was better when L [[spoiler: was alive, it was better when L died]], Mello and Near were good characters, Mello and Near were dislikable characters. The series should have ended when [[spoiler: L's life did.]] The Movies sucked, the movies ruled, Misa's voice is annoying, Misa's voice sounds less whiny in the dub. The dub made Light sound like a pompous ass by describing himself eating a potato chip in a scene that was there in the manga...The manga was better, the anime was better, the movies are better, the movie is fanfiction, the actors don't fit, Ryuuk looks unnecessary, Ryuuk is there too much, Ryuuk isn't there enough. They spend too much time one-upping each other, they don't spend enough time one-upping each other, Higuchi was there for no good reason...

practically the only thing you ''can'' get them to agree on is that they like DeathNote. * The ''CodeGeass'' fanbase is approaching this status at light speed. It doesn't look like the end of the series has stopped them either. ** More of a BrokenBase, really, given that unlike, say, Evangelion, there have yet to be any rewrites or alternate continuities.. * ''SamuraiChamploo'' is frequently criticized either for being too much like ''CowboyBebop'', or not enough like ''CowboyBebop''. * Several ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' fans have criticized Gainax for giving Kinon CharacterDevelopment, stating that they would rather have her old stereotypical MoeMoe personality (where the only difference between the three sisters were their breast sizes), rather than her new personality as Rossiu's most loyal supporter and the only person who truly understands him. * ''{{Pokemon}}'' gets this a lot. So much that even people unfamiliar with the show hate it already and apparently always have. When the new seasons offered to introduce new characters, people kept complaining that their favorite characters were done, despite the fact that one of the biggest complaints was that it didn't have more themes from the game in the first place. ** It even at times gets to the point where they complain about so much that you sometimes have to wonder if they're actually being serious. Some examples include: "This show sucks! The floors are too shiny!" Or the ever popular, "[[TheyChangedItNowItSucks I hate the name Dialga!]] [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Diaruga was SOOO much better!]]." *** So new games get announced, along with the titles. Guess what? Half the people like them for being classical and going back to the color system, the other half find them boring and uncreative. Ignoring, of course, that when Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum were announced, [[MisBlamed Nintendo]] was supposedly running out of ideas when they continued to name it after metals and gems...even if they were ''ALSO COLOURS''. (What, you've never heard "Ruby" or "Sapphire" to describe something red or blue respectively? Or Pearl to describe something white?) * Sometimes it seems like certain people in the ''{{Bleach}}'' fandom complain every single time any character wins or loses. ** Or the people who complain that there's "too much fighting" but also that the non-fighting, character development parts are "boring." ** Fans also started complaining when the battle with the {{Big Bad}} ended too quickly. These are the people who ranted about how the arc was dragged out a few weeks ago. * ''{{Tenchi Muyo}}'' was, and to a point still is, like this for older anime fans in North America. With the difference in time between the 2nd and 3rd {{OVA}}s, the ''{{Tenchi Universe}}'' TV series, which was actually a fairly good adaptation of the 1st OVA series for TV, and the fact that much of the material which is available in Japan, and explains everything, is not available otherwise, you can be sure that the reception was mixed. The number of {{spinoff}} series, which each developed their own rabid fanbase, particularly the ones revolving around Sasami, doesn't help matters at all. * ''{{Ranma}}'' was also notorious for this, and it isn't uncommon even today for someone to harp on the virtues/faults of a specific

fiance. * ''AxisPowersHetalia'' proved to have plenty of this over time, starting out small with complaints and debates about which nations were introduced or not, [[DieForOurShip shipping wars]], debates on the male to female ratio which went sour, and arguments on which strips were offensive or not. The release of the [[GagDub English language]] [[RatedMForMoney adaptation]] and the [[CrossesTheLineTwice liberties taken in the script]] only guaranteed this status (and how).

UnpleasableFanbaseComicBooks * As someone who doesn't read comic books, I'm not sure why anybody reads ComicBooks. Not because I feel they are dorky or immature. It's because I've never heard one good thing about them from someone who actually reads them. * DC Comics reportedly has a hard time getting writers to work on ''{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}'' because many writers feel that "you're doomed no matter what you do". It doesn't help that each iteration of the Legion has its own fanbase that considers all other versions "fake". A recent mini-series, ''Legion of Three Worlds'' is trying to fix this by establishing that ''all three'' Legions are canonical. * If you don't want to be annoyed by a flame war, don't visit the {{Supergirl}} board at DCComics, because half of the people that post there think that the latest Supergirl, a.k.a Kara Zor-El, is entering a DorkAge, while the other members think that Supergirl is exiting a DorkAge. * Whenever a gay character and/or couple is introduced. Usually, in addition to the part of the fanbase that does not want gay characters, the other part of the fanbase does not want a long running character to have SuddenlySexuality, but will claim any new characters as a CaptainEthnic or a PetHomosexual. When a gay couple is established, the criticisms continue that characters are underdeveloped, too realistic, not realistic enough, get too much attention, or not enough attention. After a while there's a question of whether or not the criticisms are valid opinions on bad writing or a symptom of UnpleasableFanbase inspired CreatorBreakdown. ** When a kiss was announced to finally be shown in ''TheAuthority'' between two gay characters, it was criticized that it was a gimmick and violated the idea that these were [[StraightGay two-superheroeswho-happened-to-be-gay]] instead of [[CaptainEthnic two gay superheroes]]. Once the kiss turned out to be entirely unnoticeable (casual and in the background of a party), the book was criticized for not making the kiss out to be a big deal and disappointed a lot of fans. * Peter David wrote a book called ''Mascot to the Rescue!'' that [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] the tendency for comic fans to do nothing but complain. It also [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructs]] the fans' requests (by a narrow margin in a vote) to kill off [[TheScrappy Jason Todd]]. * Prior to PowerGirl getting her own ongoing series, fans generally derided her for being a one note [[MostCommonSuperPower cheesecake]]

character with no real personality. After she got her series which gave her a consistent setting, supporting cast and a lighthearted personality, another batch of fans began complaining about the lack of [[DarkerAndEdgier action, anger and punching]] PG was originally known for. * In June 2010, WonderWoman's new costume was revealed, [[http://io9.com/5576588/almost-everyone-hates-wonder-womans-newcostume and promptly hated]]. There are some arguably valid complaints about the event it's coming in with, and the likelihood that it'll be retconned back to the classic outfit shortly, like {{Superman}} Blue, but there's also a lot about the costume itself, most notable the "90s' jacket. You'd think a fanbase that jokes about her lack of pants for decades wouldn't be complaining so much about her ''getting pants''. * One of the recurring debates in {{Batman}} is Oracle's paralysis. ''TheKillingJoke'' wasn't originally intended to be in-canon, and people have questioned [[ReedRichardsIsUseless why Barbara Gordon can't just get the use of her legs back]]. The problem is that if she does, as some fans have argued, it leads to UnfortunateImplications are that people who are paralysed aren't worth as much as people who are. Barbara has claimed that she doesn't want a cure unless it's available to everyone, and any cures applied to her have only been temporary. Some readers FanWank that Barbara's self-image has become tied to her disability, much like some deaf people refuse hearing aids.

UnpleasableFanbaseFilm * ''StarWars'' [[http://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=3381 fans]] have taken HypeBacklash to a ridiculous level by hating on the man who made the franchise in the first place, GeorgeLucas (you need to look no further than the page for GeorgeLucas himself to notice it). What truly makes this belonging on this page is the fact that ''StarWars'' franchise obviously [[CashCowFranchise does well under his management]]. ** Practically any part of ''StarWars'' franchise, except (maybe) the first two films of the original trilogy, seems to have its own dedicated circle of haters. And even those are now immune mostly due to NostalgiaFilter. You can read about it in greater detail [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER here]]. * Critics are split half and half on the film adaptation of ''{{Watchmen}}''. Some praise the film for staying faithful to the comic, breaking the cycle of bad adaptations based on AlanMoore's works. On the other hand, others criticize it for being ''too faithful'' to the source material, and that director Zack Snyder didn't do enough to insert his own interpretations and creative vision into the film. * StarTrek fans have often complained about the portrayal of Orion women, the original GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe. Some people were upset about all Orion women being slave girls who were in great demand as "consorts" and dancers. {{Enterprise}} attempted to retcon this by

saying that the women were really in charge and using their pheromones to seduce men. People complained that it was making women out to be manipulative harpies who you just couldn't trust. The new film introduces Gaila, an independent Orion enrolled in Starfleet Academy (confirmed by WordOfGod to have made her way out of the system by means of an underground railroad) who still likes having lots of sex. Matter settled with honor to both sides, right? People complained about a line by Kirk; [[HypocriticalHumor "How many men have you slept with?"]] Including a crowd scene, Gaila appears in the movie for ''less than ten minutes''. * KevinSmith seems to find the unpleasable portion of his fanbase highly amusing. "Long live me, internet guy!" * Older fans of JamesCameron were livid at ''{{Titanic}}'' being the most popular film ever and spent a decade or so sulking about how he "should" go back to sci-fi. Then ''{{Film/Avatar}}'' is announced and kept under very tight wraps, and said fans hyped themselves into a frenzy, based on nothing more than "Cameron's making a sci-fi film again!". When the actual trailer was released, the HypeBacklash over it's [[RecycledInSpace arguable unoriginality]] was rather...''loud''. And then ''Avatar'' actually came out and made Cameron director of ''two'' of the highest grossing films ever--though one might not know it for the ''endless'' venom spewed about the film to this very day all over the internet. Not even the knowledge that his next movie is a live-action adaptation of ''BattleAngelAlita''--and any studio will give him all the funding he wants--has slowed the complaints. ** Make a movie with a NobleSavage, people complain. Make a movie with MightyWhitey, people complain. Make a movie where it's the ''combination'' of ''both'' native and "civilized" knowledge and skills that allows the day to be saved, and people will complain about both * The {{Godzilla}} fandom certainly applies. Whenever a movie is released starring a new monster for [[FanNickname Goji]] to fight, fans complain that Toho didn't include classic monsters like Mothra or Ghidorah. So, what happens when Toho makes a Godzilla film featuring more classic foes? The fans complain about the lack of originality. ** Heck, Godzilla ''himself'' falls under this. A movie portrays him in a more light-hearted manner? People complain that Godzilla is "SeriousBusiness" and should be DarkerAndEdgier. A more grim and serious portrayal? Complaints that Godzilla should be fun to watch. * The upcoming sequel to ''TheHangover'' is quickly getting this in droves thanks entirely to MelGibson. When Mel was slated to make a cameo as a tattoo artist, everyone was threatening to boycott the film for letting a racist, antisemitic drunkard appear in their film. However, when he was immediately fired afterwards, everyone started to boycott the film for kicking a down and out actor to the curb while he was going through some serious problems. Of course, it doesn't help to the movie's credit that the crew seemed to be ok with allowing a convicted rapist cameo in the first film, but not Mel Gibson here. * The film version of ''Oliver!'', Lionel Bart's well-known musical version of ''OliverTwist'' was banned in Israel for portraying a Jew as a villain. It was also banned in a number of Muslim states for portraying a Jewish crime master too sympathetically.

[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Now let's all just back away...]]

UnpleasableFanbaseLiterature * ''HarryPotter'' may be the largest existing fanbase ''in the world''. So naturally, there are ''numerous'' examples of this trope in play, including: ** There was no way JK Rowling could end the series so that everyone would be happy, so "fans" continue to whine endlessly about how she screwed it all up. Particularly unpleasable are Slytherfen, Snape fangirls, and bitter shippers. [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/the_hms_stfu/ Here are the most mindboggling examples]]. * ''{{The Wheel of Time}}'': Pick a ''Wheel'' character, any character. Got your character? Good. Anywhere from 30 to 90 percent of the vocal fans hate that character. ** It's the same with ''{{A Song of Ice and Fire}}''. * TerryPratchett {{lampshade}}d this in an interview with the following quote: ** "Of course I listen to my readers! So the next book will be: Set in Ankh-Morpork/not set in Ankh-Morpork. With lots of the good old characters/with a whole cast of new characters. Written like the old books, which were better/written like the later books, which were better. With lots of character development/none of that dull character development stuff, which gets in the way of the jokes. Short/long. You want fries with that?" * The ''WarriorCats'' fandom... just... the ''WarriorCats'' fandom. They complained about the crappiness of ''The New Prophecy'', but then it suddenly became almost as good as their precious ''[[NostalgiaFilter Original Series]]'' when they started to hate on ''Power of Three''. They reach another level of annoyingness when every time a new book comes out, people begin praising it, and saying they finally "brought ''Warriors'' back", and then about a week later, they start insulting ''the very same book that they said was awesome''. Yeah. Their complaints constantly go above and beyond the unbelievable. ** And of course, how they keep whining about all the [[StarCrossedLovers forbidden loves]]. Admittedly, this plot device does have more of an impact the first time around than the seventh, but they think if it's forbidden, it instantly sucks, or is "overused". Pretty much the ''entire fandom'' acts like this, and threatens to stop reading the books if there is another forbidden romance. No matter how well written, or how great the pairing is. This even includes people who ship ''other'' forbidden pairings. Ironically, depending on what you would consider a forbidden love, their precious first series actually has more forbidden love than the second and third series ''combined''. *** This all relates to their DoubleStandard against newer books: for example, these fans have come up with a list of reasons for why they hate these pairings, every single one of which applies to [=SiverstreamxGraystripe=] in incredible amounts. But even though this

pairing takes everything they hate in {{Shipping}} and [[TurnedUpToEleven Turns Them Up To Eleven]], it is the only pairing in the entire series that is ''universally liked'', simply because it was the first major pairing in the series. ** Of course, because of NostalgiaFilter, the first series is completely immune to any criticism. This often leads to their complaints applying to the first series as well, sometimes even more so than the book they are complaining about. *** Anything irrelevant to the plot in the first series is "an interesting sub-plot", but anything irrelevant to the plot in the later series is "boring filler". ** They complained because the first three books of ''Power of Three'' had mostly independent plotlines and didn't have very much of an overarching storyline. Then they complained about the last three books because each book lead directly into the next, didn't have their own independent plots, and followed the overarching plot that leads into the fourth series. Translation: [[FanDumb They hate some books for having what other books they hate lack, and vice versa]]. ** Some fans are capable of complaining about both [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks the series being too repetitive]] and [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks how different the newer books are from the older ones]] at the ''exact same time''. *** Subsequent deaths of minor characters caused complaints about how the deaths were pointless since they didn't care about these characters. And then there were complaints about how the authors were killing off characters they liked, and that they should kill off less important characters. *** Other death related complaints involve the fourth series having too many or not enough deaths, depending on who you ask. ** Another popular complaint is that [=ThunderClan=] is overpopulated. *** Vicky can say that the other Clans have just as many cats as [=ThunderClan=], and that they just aren't listed in the [[DramatisPersonae Allegiances]], until she's blue in the face; [[FanDumb fans just won't get it]] ([[ScapegoatCreator or they'll twist her words around so they can say something negative about the series or insult her, or just say she was lying to make herself look good]]). They also accuse [=ThunderClan=] of being perfect. As in the Clan that is constantly facing pressure from [=WindClan=], was invaded in ''Eclipse'' and on the verge of losing the resulting battle, and in ''Sunrise'', was facing the threat of a potential three-Clan alliance against them. Yes, that [=ThunderClan=]. Apparantly the fact that their leader has a sense of morals makes all of this, as well as the flawed characters within the Clan, a moot point, meaning they are all {{Mary Sue}}s. *** Hell, being anything but a villain or a JerkAss makes you a MarySue in their eyes. ** There are also a few {{Straw Feminist}}s among the fanbase who complain about the author being sexist, complaints having even gone so far as ''accusing her of wanting to be a man''. Considering this is a series focussing on a society where males and females are equal, with many well-developed and important female characters, it seems like nothing short of explicit female supremacy will satisfy them. One

noteworthy example would be how ridiculously hyped and praised the character Mapleshade was ''before she even made an appearance'' simply because she's a villain that doesn't have a penis. As if the fact that they basically acknowledged that [[spoiler:Hollyleaf]]'s FaceHeelTurn didn't count for some reason wasn't enough, it seems like if Mapleshade isn't a massive DiabolusExMachina VillainSue who constantly kicks [[BigBad Tigerstar]]'s ass and manipulates and bosses around all of the other villains, they are going to be ''pissed''. ** Back when the 2011 ''[[ExpandedUniverse Super]] [[DoorStopper Edition]]'' was planned to be about the earlier days of the Clan before the series started, fans were excited about it. When plans were changed so that the ''Super Edition'' would be about Crookedstar, people complained that they weren't going to get any "Early Clan Days". Now that the fifth series has been announced to be just that, people are complaining about how it's a bad idea. ** The [[{{Aesop}} lesson]] behind this wall of text is: There are two kinds of people who read ''[[WarriorCats Warriors]]'': People who like ''Warriors'', and ''Warriors'' fans. If you happen to be the former, stay the hell away from any of the latter for the sake of your health. *** ''[[WarriorsWish Warrior's Wish]]'' obsessors who are showing the above symptoms of unpleasable fanbase, try taking a break from the forum for about a month before and during the next book release. I cured my unpleasableness!

UnpleasableFanbaseLiveActionTV * If you're hoping to be one of the writers/producers of ''[[TwentyFour 24]]'', know this...you will '''NEVER''' please the whole fandom. Don't try because no matter what plotline or character, somebody will complain, ''loudly''. Seriously, Jack Bauer has a better chance of stopping an invading horde of vampires in 24 hours with nothing more than a toothbrush. * Pick a SoapOpera, any SoapOpera. Way too many soap fans want to [[DieForOurShip die for their ship]]. And then when they get it, they complain it's too boring. * Absolutely anything to do with [[ReTool the last two seasons]] of ''StargateSG1''. For that matter, the splits started around the time of [[TropeNamer THE]] JonasQuinn, were not as...vocal, shall we say...as they became after season 9. ** ''StargateAtlantis'' has entered this territory in the past couple of seasons, due to back-to-back cast changes, as well as the persistent apparent bastardry -- and not the magnificent kind -- of the cast. Gate World Forum battles still blaze between "Carter vs. Elizabeth vs. Woolsey as leader" and "Carson vs. Keller as chief medical officer." * This is a huge topic of debate among the ''StargateUniverse'' fanbase between the camps of those who like the more realistic character-driven approach, and the traditionalists who long for more of the classic Stargate style. * The fanbase of the American ''BigBrother'' is extremely unpleasable, especially the fanbases of individual players in the show. "They should go back to basics, "The basics are boring after awhile, let's

spice it up with some TWISTS!!", "You should be able to play the game from start to finish," "You should NOT be a huge threat" and a big one... "You should be able to win Head of Household twice in a row!". You can bet the people who want this wouldn't be saying ''that'' when a player they really dislike chain-wins Head of household all the way to the finals ** The recent season has a ''lot'' of unpleasability. Jessie should be around...now JEFF should be around! The ''coup d'etat'' made the game...no the ''coup d'etat'' '''BROKE''' the game because Jessie was evicted! Jordan was riding coattails, no NATALIE was riding coattails, Kevin should have won, no, NATALIE should have won, no, JEFF should have won! Every season something like ''this'' happens. * ''StarTrek'': This is largely a result of the sheer ''length'' of the saga. The fanbase was already winding down at the end of ''[[StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'', but Paramount wanted another series. Addressing many of the complaints about ''Voyager'' (and some about ''DeepSpaceNine''), the producers decided to create a prequel series in ''{{Enterprise}}''. This was to try and make "[[CatchPhrase strange new worlds]]" seem exciting again. Unfortunately, too many of the debates were on whether the theme song was appropriate for Trek and TheAestheticsOfTechnology and {{Zeerust}} that clashed with the 35 year old StarTrekTheOriginalSeries. ** [[http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_fi lm This Onion News Network video]] pretty accurately reflects the attitudes of longtime ''Trek'' fans towards [[Film/StarTrek the new movie]]. It's worth noting that these same fans were complaining about the series being cancelled with ''{{Enterprise}}''. * ''BattlestarGalactica'' has this in spades with two distinct fandoms ([=TOaSters=] and [=GINOs=]), a massive amount of ([[ShipToShipCombat competing]]) shipping in the new series, and very vocal elements regarding the finale and what it means to the rest of the series. * For two seasons, ''{{Lost}}'' fans complained that there were some 30 other survivors of Flight 815 whom we never got to meet. So the writers introduced Paolo and Nikki, only to have the fans complain about being expected to believe they were there all along. ** Among the fanbase at any time - but particularly during the airing of Season 6 - exactly half of the fanbase is clamouring for resolution and demanding that the writers start answering their questions, while the other half is bemoaning the series for "losing the mysterious feel" of the earlier seasons. *** The classic example of this is the fan response to "the Others" in Season 1 and 2, a mysterious, almost unseen presence. Fans demanded answers about them, and Season 3 shed a lot of light on them - so then fans started complaining that the Others weren't scary or mysterious anymore. * On ''{{Supernatural}}'', this comes up nearly every time a female cast member is introduced to the show. Season 2 was attacked for the character "Jo" being an unrealistic goody-goody female hunter, so for Season 3 the writers created two female antagonists, thinking that EvilIsSexy. The Season 3 characters were loathed so much that many viewers actually started saying they missed Jo. And now that Ruby has

been [[TheNthDoctor Nth Doctor]]ed, some people are actually saying they miss the old one. Whether or not the show's issues with these characters is due to an UnpleasableFanbase, ExecutiveMeddling, or a case of WriterOnBoard is up for debate, but the first seems very likely. [[DieForOurShip Some fans seem to hate anyone either brother expresses any romantic interest in]]. This extends to ''real life''. ** They can't win when it comes to the boys, either. Dean acts like a jerk and the Dean!Girls think the writers are Mean To Dean and only care about Sam. Sam acts like a jerk and the Sam!Girls think the writers to Mean To Sam and only care about Dean. Dean acts nicely and the Sam!Girls think they're making him out to be a saint at the expense of Sam's character. Sam acts nicely and the Dean!Girls immediately hate him for being Saint!Sam. Seriously, unless they both act like good little choir boys, nobody is going to be happy. *** This was recently acknowledged in an episode dealing with a prophet of God who wrote a series of novels entitled "Supernatural", which detailed the boys' adventures. While reading fan comments about the books online, Sam says "Boy, these people sure complain a lot." And people complained about ''that'', saying that Eric Kripke is "having too much fun playing." ** Half of the female population of the fanbase (most of it), complains about misogyny when Dean--who is openly a [[JerkAss dick]]-calls a ''female demon'' a "bitch". The other half of the fanbase [[DieForOurShip calls her a bitch]]. There's probably some overlap. You see the problem here. *** One excellent example of this schizophrenia was [[http://community.livejournal.com/supernatural_tv/2053123.html the reaction post on the LJ community for "Abandon All Hope"]]. [[spoiler:Jo decides go out in a HeroicSacrifice, and the fans complain they were just starting to like her. Fair enough. Then Ellen decides to join her, and they start complaining about how the show treats female characters. Fair enough. Then Castiel gets one over on the demon Meg. "KILL HER!"]] ** In the season 5 finale, "Swan Song", [[spoiler:Satan-in-Sam--and Michael-in-Adam--end up back in Satan's cage, and Dean goes to start a normal life, just like Sam made him promise to. Lisa, the woman Dean went back to. slept Dean and who has a kid who may be his. A few episodes previous, Dean went to her and made sure she would be safe in the event of the apocalypse, and she invited him to look her up for a beer next time. She's a single mother, independant, financially, emotionally, and mentally stable, and represents a more or less average woman and a good role model on a show that's constantly accused of misogyny. The fanbase immediately complained that her being Dean's "true love" "came out of nowhere". The extent of their interactions at the end of the episode was ''a beer and dinner''.]] * ''{{Legend of the Seeker}}'', and really any show that adapted from another medium. Part of the fanbase who are devout book fans are furious about both minor details (Darken Rahl is blond in the books! BLASPHEMY!!!) and the fact that the show is, at best, a loose adaptation. However, TV fans have some trouble with some of the parts held over from the books. For example, Richard's transformation takes place over several LONG books. They've tried to keep this in the

series, but that's left his transformation from a naive farmboy to a battle hardened man going at a glacial pace, and leaving many fans saying he's the most boring character on the show. * ''Series/{{Heroes}}''. Oh ''Heroes'', you just can't win. New powers? They're ridiculous. Old powers? Not original enough, make some new ones. Too much time travel/not enough time travel. Character X is too powerful/Character X needs to become more powerful, he's boring. Also, people too damn stupid to listen to stuff, and thusly declare everything as plot holes. ** This even happens in the professional media. An ''Entertainment Weekly'' cover story accused the show of ''both'' not having enough new powers and having too many, and when Elle was killed off shortly after ''TV Guide'' decried the show's reluctance to kill characters off, their response was basically "We didn't mean her!" * ''SaturdayNightLive'' was better three years ago. ''Saturday Night Live'' has always been better three years ago. ** Lampshaded in an interview with one of the original writers, who pointed out that people have ALWAYS complained that the show used to be better. "I think it started with episode two of our first season." * Fans of ''America's Next Top Model'' always complain when a talented, quiet, high-fashion contestant loses over a more commercial, outgoing girl that made for better television. So, what happens every time the quiet, high-fashion girl actually does take home the prize? They all complain that she was too boring and high-fashion and the commercial, outgoing girl should have won instead because she made for better television. Then again, ''Top Model'' fandom has always been more of a {{Hatedom}} anyway. * ''PowerRangers'' fans. It's most visible when it comes to originality: If a Power Rangers series does not resemble its SuperSentai counterpart, they've [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks "ruined" it]]... but if it ''does,'' the complaints of lack of originality are just as loud (see ''PowerRangersMysticForce.'') * ''{{Babylon 5}}'''s creator was annoyed that people complained about aliens acting too human and about aliens acting too different. ** He was also irked by the flak he got regarding the [[LesYay Talia/Ivannova ship]], which he [[ShipTease teased]] a bit but never officially canonized. Paraphrased from memory: -->''If you do nothing, you get yelled at for ignoring it. If you do a little, you get yelled at for not doing more. If you do more, you get yelled at for not doing it sooner. Screw it. Do what the story needs, when the story needs it." * TheBigBangTheory. Mainly among shippers. Most of the vocal fans ''hate'' the cannon Penny/Leonard ship and ''love'' the mind-boggling Sheldon/Penny. Needless to say, Season 3 has created this trope. Don't mention the romantic sub-plots unless you wanna start a flame war. It'll only get worse if they continue the [[spoiler:possible relationship for Sheldon]] next season. * Almost any Reality Competition that doesn't revolve around trapping a bunch of strangers together and watching them play person politics to win has unpleasable fanbases, divided over what makes the show good: ** ''TheAmazingRace'':Do the fans want to see the teams scrambling for

public transportation, or do they think that's boring? Do they want more remote locations or do they want more beautiful locations? Should the tasks be fun to watch or difficult? (And if difficult, should they be physically demanding or mentally demanding?) Is using the Yield and the U-Turn just part of the game, or playing dirty? And so on... ** ''TopChef'' runs into the same thing: Do you want to know more about the contestants as people or do you just to see more cooking? Are the challenges too gimmicky? Should they be given bigger budgets, more time, fewer twists or the reverse? Which should be grounds for elimination: serving a poor dish, or following the letter but not the spirit of the challenge? Do the judges really judge solely on the chefs' performance that day, or do they take past performances into account? Should they cut a chef some slack for a poor dish if that chef has made other, ''really good'' dishes in the past? ** ''{{Survivor}}'': Twenty people is too many - they should go back to sixteen! No, sixteen people is too boring - let's try eighteen or twenty. Tribal swaps ruined the game. Tribal Swaps made the games less one-sided. I wanna see some rehashes of challenges, I hate seeing them redo challenges! Hidden Immunity Idols ruined the game, hidden immunity idols made the game more interesting. They don't do enough Survival - No that's ''boring'' when they sit around the camp all the time, I wanna see them fight and argue. They have a bunch of [[RealityShowGenreBlindness idiots playing the game]]. No, GenreSavvy players would ''ruin'' the game because they'd make it boring! The first season was the best, The first season was boring - let's watch ''Samoa''. ''Fiji'' sucked! ''Fiji'' had a ''brilliant'' move what're you talking about? People who vote personally ruin the game. No, Crystal&Randy and Coach&Sierra ''made'' Gabon and Tocantins respectively! They should do another ''All-Stars'', ''All-Stars'' sucked! ''Heroes vs. Villains'' is gonna be another [[SpotlightStealingSquad Russell Clip Show!]]. * [[http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000123/nest/149710429 This IMDB post]] points out the endless problems that would arrive if the muchwanted Classic Nickelodeon network was to come into existence. They're mostly due to this. * Lily and Rufus were a popular ship on ''GossipGirl'', so when Bart Bass [[DieForOurShip passed away]] and Lily was free to be with Rufus, many people were happy. One season later most fans have begun to loathe the pairing and wish that Bart hadn't died, many now feeling he was much better for her than Rufus. * Oh boy, {{Smallville}}'s fandom most definitely falls into this category. If Clark appears to be in love with any of the three main girls, the fans of the other two will angrily rant online about how "he isn't 'worthy' of our favorite girl anyway!" ** There are some shippers who don't seem to even ''like'' Clark, and merely view him as some sort of trophy to award to their favorite female character. *** It also extends to the amount of screentime each female character gets. Is Lois getting a lot of screentime and character development? The Chloe fans will angrily claim that the writers are destroying Chloe to make way for Lois. Is Chloe getting a lot of screentime? The Lois fans will complain that Chloe is a waste of time since she's not

in the comics. Is Lana getting a lot of screentime? EVERYONE outside of Lana's small-but-devoted fandom will complain. **** Then there are the rabid comic book purists who angrily rant for several pages about how the show differs from the {{Superman}} comic books, and act as though the show's writers have thus [[{{Serious Business}} committed religious heresy of some sort]]. * Anything in ''Series/DoctorWho'' ever. It doesn't matter what is being discussed, it will always end in a FlameWar. * A vast amount of {{Glee}} fans practically live on finding things about the show to kvetch about. This troper has seen that after EVERY SINGLE EPISODE on the major forums for the show there will always be a topic about how the episode just shown was the "worst episode ever!" And these fans just keep coming back and watch every episode. They seem to hate every character, plot and song and really bring down the moods of everyone else. * British comedy channel GOLD suffers from this. People complain about there being too many repeats of old shows (OnlyFoolsAndHorses being the primary offender), but when more modern shows such as {{Outnumbered}} or GavinAndStacey are brought in... well, this troper will give you two guesses. -->''''Idiot'''': They embrace it with open arms. -->''''Troper'''': One more guess... * Fans criticized the American version of WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire during its original ABC run [[ItsEasySoItSucks when a Millionaire was crowned in a matter of]] ''[[ItsEasySoItSucks months]]''[[ItsEasySoItSucks , or even]] ''[[ItsEasySoItSucks weeks]]'' [[ItsEasySoItSucks or]] ''[[ItsEasySoItSucks days]]''. When the show moved to syndication, the show upped the difficulty of the questions (although this was the result of a lower budget) and the fans still complained [[ItsHardSoItSucks about the difficulty which results in droughts of million-dollar wins that can last for]] ''[[ItsHardSoItSucks years]]''. When the show returned to ABC for its 10th anniversary, the difficulty was lowered a bit...but fans still complained. ** In response to the drought, the show created the Tournament Of Ten...but although fans were finally going to get a Millionaire without the need to lower difficulty, said fans now complained about not only the "manufacturing" of a Millionaire (not a "legit" win) and said Tournament's format proving the show was cheap (each seed risked ''what they already won'', with a drop to $25,000 if incorrect). * For years, people have complained about HumansAreWhite; the lack of Black or other minority characters in sci-fi. ''{{Firefly}}'' had ''two'' black leads, as well as [[AmbiguouslyBrown whatever Inara was supposed to be]]. People promptly complained about the lack of Asians[[hottip:*:Admittedly an oversight in a series where the culture has heavy Asian influences. Of course, given that Joss was getting ScrewedByTheNetwork at the time, it may have slipped his mind.]]. ** One of Joss's most acclaimed traits is his tendency to write Strong Female Characters in greater numbers and prominence than are normally seen in Hollywood. One of his most criticized traits is his alleged habit of killing off Strong Female Characters in greater numbers and prominence than are normally seen in Hollywood. People want him to

have female characters who are equal to men in every way ''except'' the [[AnyoneCanDie mortality rate]]. *** To be fair it's not so much that Joss kills his female characters, the problem is [[StuffedIntotheRefrigerator how and why he does it]] **** And when he kills off beloved ''male'' characters in non-fridgerelated incidents, people ''still'' complain. Most notably one RealityEnsues moment in {{Serenity}}. ** Interestingly this criticism is often leveled at RDM's BattlestarGalactica as well, particularly the final season.

UnpleasableFanbaseMetaConcepts * {{Shipping}}. Full stop. * Some viewers will constantly complain about works that are made with the mindset that ViewersAreMorons complete with complaints that it is too [[ClicheStorm Cliche]], and that it's filled with nothing but "Mindless" Action and "Mindless" {{Fanservice}}, so to speak. Yet when a work with the mindset that ViewersAreGeniuses are made, they still complain "OH MY GOD! WHAT THE FUCK! THIS SHOW'S A [[MindScrew MIND FUCK]]!" * AnyoneCanDie, when it comes to gender. People will complain about a lack of women in Hollywood, but if a show has a fair amount of women subject to the same traumas and mortality rate as the men, [[DoubleStandard there will be complaints about]] WomenInRefrigerators and/or StuffedIntoTheFridge, even when there's an in-universe justification. See JossWhedon, below. ** Similarly, people will complain about fridging, but they will ''also'' complain when a character is, in their opinion, too quickly forgotten. * There are some people who think that minorties should never have jokes written about them, unless they're being made by [[NWordPrivileges a member of the group in question]], since it would be disrespectful. Again, this means that it's okay to want more minority representation in media, but not okay to actually treat them in the same way as cisgendered, heterosexual Christian white men, who are apparently the only people it's always acceptable to make jokes about. * PanderingToTheBase. Fans want a change. Creator makes the change. Fans complain about the change. Repeat ad-nauseam. * When these reactions are used at the same time. ** TheyChangedItNowItSucks and ItsTheSameNowItSucks ** ItsEasySoItSucks and ItsHardSoItSucks ** ViewersAreMorons and ViewersAreGeniuses

UnpleasableFanbaseMusic * All {{Vocaloid}} fans agree that Vocaloid should become an anime. The problem is, no one can agree on what the anime should actually be ''about'' * Ricky Martin. When he sang in English, the Latino fangirls thought he sucked and watered down his material. Now that he sings in Spanish again, the Anglo fangirls from the late 90s disavow his existence and

the American music press call him a joke, but his Latin career has never been better and he remains fairly popular in Latin America. (Compare his Spanish material to the lower-quality English [=CDs=], and it becomes clear he brought it on himself, though.) * LinkinPark. When they released their sophomore album ''Meteora'', some decried it for being ''[[ItIsTheSameNowItSucks Hybrid Theory, Pt. 2]]''. When their third album ''Minutes to Midnight'' dropped, others complained about the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks departure from rapcore/nu metal present on their previous albums]]. When ''A Thousand Suns'' came around, remaining fans bitched about the lack of guitars. * HIM frontman Ville Valo once lampshaded this during an interview with Metal Hammer regarding the album ''Dark Light'': -->"It's pretty much going to be like CradleOfFilth, but without the heavy guitar riffs, or the thundering drum and bass lines, or the leather, or the Goth imagery, or the eroticism, or the strippers, but essentially it's going to be like Cradle Of Filth, and I'm thinking of changing the name from HIM to The Fluffers, what do you think?" * XJapan. It manages to be both an UnpleasableFanbase and a BrokenBase all at once (depending on whether there's a FlameWar or not) but there is no way of pleasing the fans, and the fans [[{{GIFT}} like to make their voices heard]] even if it means pushing the bandleader [[YoshikiHayashi Yoshiki]] into a psychiatric breakdown and off the internet. * BlackMetal - sometimes it seems as if every album that wasn't recorded in a garbage can on a 4-track while the band were too drunk to stand and on the lam from burning a church will ''always'' suck in the eyes of the trve and the kvlt of the black metal fanbase. ** Fortunately, most of the black metal fans over 16 years of age think the kvlt-kiddies are an utter joke. Still, even a reasonable black metaller tends to dislike super clean production on black metal albums, mostly because a rough and raw sound adds a certain dark texture that was integral to classic black metal. * {{Metallica}}. This trope could easily be called Metallica's New Album Sucks. * 1/2 of ToriAmos' fanbase became this. ''American Doll Posse'' was Tori's angriest album in years, yet a lot of fans were not pleased. ''Midwinter Graces'' was her most piano-based album in years, and she still managed to not please some fans. It seems that Tori would have to release a piano-based album resulting from some extreme CreatorBreakdown in order for the whining to stop. * MyChemicalRomance fans. It's difficult to pick one album that was the point of contention...but so far, it seems to be all three albums. ** Some in the fandom have already decided the unnamed new album sucks. It's not even out yet. Hell, it's not even ''done'' yet. ** Sometimes I wonder if people in fandom honestly think that the more they hate the band and complain, the more cred they have. Like, you get labeled a Bad Fan if you actually ''like'' anything the band does. * [[DreamTheater Mike Portnoy]], in the middle of a CreatorBreakdown, wrote a song about fandom's unpleasability. It's called "Never Enough". Quoting just a fragment of it is impossible. [[http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/dreamtheater/octavarium.html#6 You have to read it yourself]].

* In an orchestra class of this troper, they let students choose the music that they play. Strangely, they ended up with music similar to the last years. The older students all got together and complained, while the younger students liked it and complained back to them. So, the conductor made it 50% new pieces, 50% old pieces. That still wasn't enough, and so the conductor changed it to 75% new, 25% old. ** They're still complaining about it, though. * {{Aerosmith}}'s fanbase. Hoo boy, ''Aerosmith's fanbase''. Whining and bitching about how the post-1979 material doesn't sound exactly like the material from before then, but you know if it DID all sound the same they'd be bitching about that too. And that's without even mentioning how Steven Tyler was directly insulted over Twitter.

UnpleasableFanbaseNewMedia * {{Facebook}}. Oh, dear heavens, ''Facebook''. Every - and I mean ''every'' - single solitary change to the website will be followed up with five million different groups cropping up saying "I hate this new change!" It happened with the Mini-Feed, it happened with Applications, it's happening with New Facebook... ** Any large Web site will be subject to this trope. * [=YTMND=]. Anytime a new fad catches on in this site, it's instantaneously spammed endlessly by angry trolls and members who think it's unfunny, with the random person yelling "cry more". * One particular furry art website changes its banner every month to reflect that time of the month. It's usually followed by people crying over how horrible the banner looks and this happens ''every single month'', which could basically mean every year. ** There are two mascots to this site, a male and a female one. The male is in pretty much every single banner, and as of 2009, has been the sole mascot portrayed in the banner for literally ''every single month'', with the exception of the special banner like the Chinese New years, which had the female one by herself. So yes, there are people saying they would like to see more of the female mascot - especially since the ''one'' banner that featured her exclusively (that wasn't a holiday one) intended to be up for the month was taken down within two weeks and replaced with one featuring both, which remained for the rest of the month. But what happens whenever the female mascot gets to be the center feature? "OMG That's not something a REAL woman would do!!!!", "How typical that it was designed by a man" and "omg where's the male one?! I wanna see ''HIM''!!". *** Part of this stems from how the female mascot originated as an April Fools Joke. * GaiaOnline. Whenever a new Cash Shop item is released, half the users will complain about the smallest detail, while others will praise the item. Anytime anything resembling a cross is released, expect there to be shouts of how it's "offensive" even though the site has ''several'' items connected to other religions. (There are bhuddist robes and "monk" and "nun" wigs, a spaghetti item featured a pose for the Flying Spaghetti Monster, there's Cuthulu items, etc.) No one ever takes that into consideration. * {{NeoPets}}:

** The unpleasability seemed to start with the Lost Desert comic of 2005. It had a stupid ending where two characters who had never met [[StrangledByTheRedString declared their undying love for each other]] at their first meeting, and the jackass who had spent the entire plot terrorizing the kingdom got a [[KarmaHoudini happy ending]]. Other problems included a completely anticlimactic resolution and the completely predictable [[TheReveal "revelation"]] that our heroine was a princess. OK, one bad plot - big deal, right?... yes, [[SeriousBusiness big deal.]] Such a big deal, in fact, that TNT ("The Neopets Team," I.E. the site staff) [[FanDumb apparently got huge numbers of flaming e-mails]]. With this incident, constant biting criticism of TNT became fashionable and it still hasn't stopped. *** To be fair, the huge negativity did create a small backlash of equally rabid TNT-worshippers. It's mainly only visible in the editorials these days, however - the trend of typing "* gives cookies* " or the like when sending in a question, which so confuses TNT themselves, began right about this time and continues to this day. ** When Viacom bought neopets in 2005, the users panicked, assumed TNT had been fired and replaced, and started to blame Viacom for everything wrong with the site. But judging by the changes made, it appears that TNT still has nearly full control over the site's content - it seems the only Viacom-related change was the addition of more revenue-producing features. *** One of those revenue-producing features is the NC mall, where you use real money to buy clothes and items for your pets. The feature's optional, and the items are strictly for show, so it doesn't affect the neopian economy in any way. Which didn't stop claims that neo was RuinedForever and loud accusations that they had "sold out". [[MoneyFetish Because wanting profit makes you a sicko]]. **** That had more to do with how you were only allowed to keep items in the MC Mall for a month or two originally. They've since changed that, but some still say they sold out. ** Then there are all the claims of "unfair freezing" (Freezing = the on-site term for banning). While there are legitimate cases, they are usually quickly rectified; eighty percent of the time, the person claiming they were punished unjustly is either lying, did not know the rules well enough to realize they broke them, or had their account inactivated when their security was compromised and assumed the worst. *** One such claim once led to a full-scale riot on the neopets chat boards; hundreds of people got in on the act just for the lulz, posting thousands of obscene and threatening messages. The flow was far too fast for the relatively small moderating staff, and so the boards were ''locked completely'' for a day or two in order to allow all the necessary warnings and bans to be dealt. * Most forum software fanbases, apparently. For example, the vBulletin support forum has a ridiculous amount of whining in the hidden custom feedback forum, resulting in everything from insult meme pictures being posted as responses to people threatening to sue the company for merely $50-100 and fad avatars with little lock icons in response to locked topics. To be honest, it sometimes more resembles a gaming fanboys forum than a customer support forum on some days. * Heather "[[http://www.dooce.com/ dooce]]" Armstrong has a very

popular blog, and frequently [[http://www.dooce.com/2009/08/28/containing-capital-letter-or-two makes fun of the people who complain about everything she does]]. She's not exaggerating; just look at any post with the comments open. -->It happens every single time I write something. Every. Single. Time. I am so in tune with human nature now that I've been dealing with it for eight and a half years that I can predict what someone will send me in an email in response to a word or sentence or paragraph that I've written that is totally and completely innocuous. At times I feel like an accidental puppeteer. * No mention of ThisVeryWiki yet?

UnpleasableFanbaseOther * Entertainment example: Orlando Bloom fans. Nothing he does is ever good enough for his [[FanDumb fangirls]] anymore, and his actions are exaggerated to the point of parody. If he goes a while without a movie role, he's lazy. If he DOES accept a role, the movie sucks. If a set of candid photos shows up, he's whoring himself out to the papes. If he falls off the grid for while, it's because no one cares about him anymore. If he's spotted with a drink in his hand, he's a hopeless alcoholic who is self-medicating. If he appears to have any kind of visible injury, he's self-destructive. Heaven forbid he should spend any length of time in LA, because then he's a sellout. Any woman he dates is the devil and proof that he has lousy taste in women ([[ShipToShipCombat unless it's Kate Bosworth]]). Trolls rarely show up to start trouble...they don't have to! Ironically, the tide seems to be slowly turning in his favor regarding the entertainment media, who [[ItsPopularNowItSucks tore him to shreds when he was popular]]. ** The man fell three stories and not only survived breaking his back, ''wasn't paralyzed'' and recovered completely. No matter how popular he is or isn't, ''that'' will never be anything less than epic. *** Can we please just link that to CrowningMomentOfAwesome? Please? ** God, even the fans who like him are alarming. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIydk-sTwE EAT SHIT, JESSICA, IT'S CARROT!!]] * Any rating organization. If they have loose guidelines, they're accused of making the guidelines arbitrary and subjective. If they have precise guidelines, then they're laughed at for taking subjective matters too seriously. * Many radio stations tend to fall victim to this. Whenever radio stations tweak their music format, there'll be the old fans who are unhappy with the change. Note that this isn't really about radio stations changing their format completely. It's about radio stations that are [[NetworkDecay more subtle]] in tweaking the format, while acting as if they're the same radio stations that they always were. * Believe it or not, the fanbase of General Motors. Let's just say there is VEHEMENT disagreement over what GM should/shouldn't do, or what each of its brands should stand for. * Apple Inc's legion of iFanboys ([[NamesTheSame which have nothng to do with the podcast of the same name]]). For years now whenever there has been a build-up to a major product launch (Apple famously refuse

to comment themselves on any upcoming releases, most of the time even refusing to confirm that ''there is going to be'' a new product coming out) the rumour mill goes into overdrive, and then once the product is finally revealed the rumour sites and technology blogs will be filled with people complaining about how it isn't revolutionary enough, how it lacks basic no-brainer features, how it's not as pretty as the model it's replacing, and how it spells the beginning of the end for the company. Of course, Apple go on to sell millions of these new products and increase their user base every time, as they have done successfully now for the last decade. * Many Linux [[FanDumb fanboys]] fit this trope to a T. Some random software developer doesn't make a Linux version of his flagship application? He "supports the evil Micro$oft empire". He ports his apps to Linux? "But they're closed source, they're only certified for <some Linux distros>"... As much as this troper likes Linux, he despises those fanboys. ** About a year ago, this troper found a blog of a Linux user who has either to be a troll or a Microsoft employee playing strawman. He constantly referred to Ubuntu as "Niggeruntu", complained when people who were unsatisfied with Windows asked information about Linux (his reasoning being that "they only want to try Linux because it's the cool thing to do now"), and his opinion about Linux users was "the less we are, the better we are". * Some geeks tend to complain about Hollywood's tide of remakes, sequels, and adaptations. They will then turn around and talk about how they're eagerly anticipating some movie adapted from a comic book, or wonder why their favorite video game hasn't had a rerelease/update, without the slightest trace of irony. * Anything that has to do with The United States of America. '''And I mean Anything!''' If they help others in need, they're criticized. If they don't help others in need, they're criticized. People complain about America having arrogance when it comes to patriotism ([[{{Hypocrite}} even if their own countries do the same thing]]), yet they still complain when they embrace other cultures. And whatever the government does, whether good or bad, someone will always find a way to bash the government and especially the president. I can go on, but whatever the reason, someone will still find a reason to complain about anything American, whether it's from an American, or not. * This troper has learned the hard way that when you write a fanfic there is always someone who treats is like the worst thing ever written, whether it is or not.

UnpleasableFanbaseProfessionalWrestling * {{Smart Mark}}s degenerate into this from time to time. For example, when smark favorite CM Punk beat Edge for the World Heavyweight Title, smart marks - rather than celebrate that one of their poster boys had won one of WWE's top titles - instead bitched about the fact that Punk won it by pinning Edge after he had been beaten up by other wrestlers, supposedly making Punk look "weak" and "cowardly". Never mind that Edge had previously won the title in that ''exact same way'' months

ago, and Punk defeating him in that fashion was (from a storyline perspective) karmic backlash for the {{heel}} Edge. ** Rumor has it Hulk Hogan wants to get rid of Vince Russo and put wrestlers in charge of TNA's direction. Fans are already whining about the rumor, many of the same fans who blamed everything wrong with TNA on Vince Russo. * WWE fans often accuse anyone who doesn't like the WWE product of being an UnpleasableFanbase. * The Internet Wrestling Community (IWC) definitely qualifies. * The latest example for WWE is coming from their changing of the names of several of their pay-per-view events. * And don't forget the commenters on any wrestling website. Write an article that's positive at all, and you'll be accused of being a fanboy, a mark, a shill, and whatever else. Write an article that's negative at all, and you'll be accused of being a bitter, unpleasable [[SmartMark smark]] who [[StrawFan lives in his parents' basement]]. Write an article that gives the good and bad of something? Expect ''both'' types of flames to be rained down upon you. * One of the most common complaints by the IWC is that WWE never pushes new talent. But if a newer superstar does get a push, smarks will still complain if it's not a guy ''they'' wanted to get pushed. * Anytime WWE or TNA do a gimmick match or title match on the weekly show The column writers and recappers bitch about them giving away big matches on free TV. Then they also bitch about how nothing exciting happens on the free TV shows anymore.

UnpleasableFanbaseRadio * Try getting HowardStern fans to agree on what specifically they find entertaining and not entertaining about his show.

UnpleasableFanbaseSports * Americans when it comes to Soccer. [[MisplacedNationalism People complain about America having "arrogance" when it comes to not showing a liking to]] TheBeautifulGame, yet when Americas play and/or watch soccer, you get "American's suck at soccer" or "No, we don't want Americans to dominate soccer, go back to {{Baseball}} or whatever and leave us alone." * NHL fans about any rule change, ever. Change a rule that the fans complain about, they'll start bitching about the new rule, and how it ruined the game and it's disrespecting the traditions of the game, etc. Example: the crease rule. For years, fans complained that there was a goal review every time someone scored, and that half the goals were waved off because someone's skate lace was in the crease or something. So they abolish the crease rule, and now everyone complains about how no one's protecting the goaltenders. And let's not even start on the instigator rule... * MLB fans. They whine about how sick and tired of hearing about the Yankees/Red Sox/Cubs/Mets/Dodgers...then once all five of them are eliminated from contention, they whine about how "no one wants to watch (team that outlasted this group) play (other team that outlasted

this group)!" If we're ''lucky'', this whining doesn't start until the World Series. If we're unlucky, it starts earlier. Take this current (2008) World Series for example. They whine about how ratings are going to be bad before it even begins, then whine even more about the fact that no one's watching because Game 3 got delayed an hour and a half by rain. They also complain about the weather in Game 5, how it should've been stopped earlier (maybe true), how they shouldn't have even started (bullshit--it only just started sprinkling when the game began, and the weather forecast ''did'' say that the heavy rains weren't supposed to come until later). But if you suggest that maybe they should make every team get a dome, you're just begging to be {{Flame}}d--and the other ballpark in this Series is example number one as to why domed stadiums are an affront to the game. (Never mind the fact that there are "traditional" ballparks with design quirks much more game-altering than the Trop's catwalks--like foul territory with oddly angled walls and a garage door, a 37-foot-high wall with a slightly protruding scoreboard near the base and a not-so-slightly protruding ladder halfway up, and another set of odd angles in right center known as "The Triangle"--and this is my favorite team's home ballpark I'm talking about.) Also, the games themselves have been pretty close so far, with one exception, and to a baseball purist, this has all the makings of an all-time classic. Now all it needs is a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_World_Series dramatic Game 6]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_World_Series extra-inning walkoff homer]] and an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_World_Series equally dramatic Game 7]], and it can contend for the title of greatest ever. [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome Not bad for something that "sucks", huh?]] * Fans of American Open Racing. For 12 years two US championships for open wheel racing existed. CART (Championship Auto Racing team, which was formed in the 70's, then became Champ Car World Series in 2003) and IRL (Indy racing league, but the series is called Indycar Series) The difference between the two championships were that CART/CCWS ran both ovals and road/street circuits (p until 2006 when in 2007 it was just road/street circuits) while IRL ran just ovals (Up until a few years ago when it then started to add road and street circuits to their schedule.) When the two series merged in 2008 to have one series for the national championship people were still pissed. People were either pissed because of the cars the IRL used (Most people claim them as ugly which I've seen worse), a lower horsepower engine (650HP for IRL compared to the 900 some that CART ran in the mid 90's and 720 to 850 used by CCWS.) The unhappy fans go on and on about what can be done to fix it, and it's like dude Rome wasn't built in a day and neither is this. It will take time for AOW to be what it used to be and the merger was just the start. ** This could even be taken to a more general level with racing fans of any series (NASCAR, F1, etc). Some changes gets made and you have people on both sides who bitch about it (For a NASCAR example, the COT or Car of Tomorrow. Some people like it, some hate it.)

UnpleasableFanbaseTabletopGames

* The complaining that ensues from many new editions of [[RolePlayingGame [=RPGs=]]]. * The ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}'' card game fandom will often complain that "they don't have enough support for X theme", or "they don't have X anime card, yet". On the rare occasion that Konami actually ''listens'' to these complaints, they're met with further complaints that the cards they've given are either too broken or too restrictive to the point of uselessness. * Regarding the 4th edition of ''{{Dungeons and Dragons}}''. The fanbase is divided between the "old school" and the "new school," the "roleplayers" and the "roll-players." The phrase "I don't want your anime in my Dungeons and Dragons" was repeatedly seen in the [=WotC=] messageboards. You have to wonder about the "you" they are talking about. ** Also, don't forget the "you're getting your WOW in my tabletop RPG" crowd, and the massive rage against salami-slicing the classes and monsters into several PHBs, DMGs and MMs. * Speaking of ''{{Dungeons and Dragons}}'', the D&D Miniatures line follows a set pattern with every release: After the first previews, each set is "the best set ever." Right around release time, it becomes "the WORST set ever," regardless of what is actually in it. Every aspect, from sculpting, to paint jobs, to figure selection will be absolutely hated by the same people who buy ten or twenty factorysealed cases (This includes people who only play older editions, and thus would not use the figures in RPG). However, as soon as another set is released, that previous set suddenly becomes "The best set ever" once more. ** For additional irony, the "I don't want your anime in my D&D" line was also extended to the ''[[{{Splat}} Book of Nine Swords]]'' which was intended to help even out the LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards equation for physical fighters. Opponents of use of that book often decried it as too much anime... and many of the same people who hailed the [=Bo9S=] for giving some parity to melee combatants decried the changes of Fourth in the exact same manner as their predecessors. *** ''Book of Nine Swords'' is better known as the Book of Weeaboo Fightan Magic on 4chan's /tg/. Arguments over it and 4e were largely started because impotent neckbeard rage is an entertaining thing to behold. ** Before 4th Edition, the most common complaint was that [[CharacterTiers the different classes were too unbalanced]] in terms of power levels (with the Cleric and Druid [[GameBreaker ranking at the top]]). Then Fourth Edition comes out... and many of those same people cry that the classes are ''too'' evenly matched and similar to each other.[[FailureIsTheOnlyOption Wizards just can't win, it seems]]. * ''[[{{Warhammer40000}} Warhammer 40,000]]'' is subject to this, especially by several communities on the net. People cry that 4th/5th Edition rules suck, and long for the good old days, others who (rightly) claim that 2nd Edition was a shoddily-constructed Wall Banger, and others who are [[TheWoobie just waiting]] for the Dark Eldar update. Complaints regarding minor points of background also seem to be popular, especially concerning non-tabletop adaptations.

** Anytime a new codex is introduced, fans instantly pounce with the rage of the entire Warp. Necrons? The ultimate [[TheWesley Wesley]]. Tau? [[HumongousMecha Animu wannabes]]. Daemons? [[ThisIsSPARTA TOO MUCH CHEDDER]]! Of all the new codices, the Chaos Space Marine codex caught the greatest amount of [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks flak]] for their omission of lesser Daemons and units dedicated to each of the Chaos gods. The fans [[FanDumb complained so much]] that Games Workshop is actually rumored to be releasing individual Chaos God codices. [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo Or maybe they planned it this way all along...]] *** New codexes tend to be unbalanced in the new codex's favour. That's how they sell. So, every time a new codex is released, whoever was praising the new codex as the best ever is angry that race x is now top gun. It's funny. * ''[=~Magic: The Gathering~=]'' has this every three months when a new set comes out, and also between when sets come out, and on days that end in "-day". It has been said that Wizards of the Coast could put $100 bills in the booster packs, and there'd be threads in the message boards that they were folded wrong. * ''WarhammerFantasyRolePlay'' has this in spades. For many fans, the pinnacle of [=RPG=]s is the Enemy Within Campaign, so any change or addition is blasphemy. Particularly when it's done by Games Workshop.

UnpleasableFanbaseToysAndScaleModels * If a model is in any way difficult to put together, it has fit issues. If you can build it by turning the box upside-down, then accuracy was sacrificed for fit. * Expect the StopHavingFunGuys to go over absolutely every tiny detail with digital calipers and obscure, out-of-print reference books. A scale millimetre off, even though this could just as well be measurement error from the printed plans? The bastards might as well have reached into your wallet and ''stolen'' your money! * If the standards of casting are poor, it's cheap and nasty. If they're not, it's too expensive. * Modellers will complain about the same old WW2 models being released and then complain there aren't enough WW2 non-combat vehicles if a company releases anything else. * If Dragon Models Limited does ''anything'', it's wrong. * If the model is released at a perfect price point, perfectly detailled, and every detail beyond reproach, the fans will either complain it wasn't made sooner or just criticise the box. * ''{{Transformers}}'' is another good example of the "fractured fanbase" variety, and Hasbro and whoever works with them tend to wind up in a bit of a balancing act. Everyone wants something different. The movie figures are too stylized, I hate these gimmicks, the new ''Animated'' figures look too cartoony, when are we gonna get realistic animal modes again it's been ten years, [[BeastWars Trukk Not Munky]], etc. Of course, when we ''do'' get die-cast toys, they can't hold their arms up, etc. And this is just the ''toys''... Don't ''start'' people on either movie, any cartoon, the comics, or... anything, really... Some of us are laid-back about the whole thing,

while others are... erm... not. To be fair, the ''fanbase'' knows this more than anyone, and are generally quick to voice what they ''like'' to drown out the chorus of hate when it doesn't need to be heard. Of course, ''{{Transformers}}'' fandom being ''{{Transformers}}'' fandom, they've actually managed to turn this very trope into a meme, known as "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER Ruined FOREVER]]!" [[RuinedFOREVER We]] are not [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER the only wiki]] to 'borrow' it. ** One user on a ''Transformers'' forum leveled complaints about the Transformers in the movie not looking enough like their G1 counterparts. Then, when ''Animated'' was coming out, the ''same fan'' was complaining that the theme song was too similar to the G1 cartoon, even when it was clear that referencing the old 'toon was half the point of ''Animated''. * Take just about everything said above for ''{{Transformers}}'' and make it about ''GIJoe'' instead. Smaller fanbase, less media, but same complaints more or less. * AmericanGirl. Oh, American Girl. When Mattel purchased Pleasant Company in 1998 (and wholly took over production by 2000), many of the older fans insisted that anything that Mattel created was awful and shoddy and not sized right for the chubbier older dolls. (Which it's not, but still...) Some "reviewers" will insist things are made of plastic even when it's clear they aren't. Yet a majority of collectors keep buying the newer things--[[{{FanDumb}} all the while complaining that the stuff is nowhere as good as PC stuff.]] * {{LEGO}} builders are a very nice bunch, just be sure not to mention ''{{Bionicle}}'' around them in a positive tone, only if you're absolutely certain it's Bio-fans you're dealing with. ** Even then, be careful when discussing the following topics: When did the story lose its charm? Why are there no mysteries? Why do the new mysteries suck? Mata Nui's tropical island setting VS everything else. The Mistika sets. The story shifting from the Matoran Universe to Bara Magna. The name Teridax. But most of all: ''HeroFactory''. Even though it technically didn't outright ''replace'' Bionicle, rather filled in the void left by Bionicle's cancelation, don't count on any Bio-fans to understand this.

UnpleasableFanbaseVideoGames [[foldercontrol]] [[folder:In General]] * If you look around VideoGame message boards, you will see that this trope is present almost '''[[TropeCodifier ALL THE TIME]]'''. Gamers will cry for developers to try something new - and even will reviewers. So then companies like Nintendo and Sega try a few new things, and they instantly get "It's a Gimmick so it sucks!" thrown on them and they refuse to even give them a chance. It's so bad, that some companies even get their own sections below. ** It was particularly amusing when the Wii was accused of being a

"gimmick" by PS3-fanboys, right up until the SIXAXIS was announced. Their response was ''deafening silence''. *** And this has been taken straight out the other side with the Playstation Move, which is now being touted as either the "Wii killer" or the "Wii HD." * Many gamers were frustrated with FakeDifficulty in the early days. However more recent games have gotten rid of this for the most part, but fans still complain that "It's too Easy". * Hardcore Gamers. You will be very hard-pressed to find a selfprofessed hardcore gamer that actually spends more time ''playing'' video games as opposed to whining and crying about them. It's almost like they're the de-facto TropeMakers. ** Gamers in general play two games. The Crying Game and the actual games themselves. The ones who cry the most and get catered to are the winners. Never mind that Gaming is an actual business and catering solely to fans would cause so many companies to release projects that would '''lose''' money due to it catering to specific fans that won't pay enough to make it worthwhile. * [=RPG=] games have turned into this. Either they complain that the games in a franchise or the genre as a whole are too similar, or they complain when someone tries to genuinely create innovation in the genre that it is not true to the "spirit" or they're not a ''real'' RPG. See ''FinalFantasy'' in the SquareEnix section and ''MassEffect'' in the ElectronicArts section below for such examples of this. * Most PC games are pirated at a rate estimated to be upwards of over 50%. Whenever a developer complains about piracy, there are one of three responses. If the game sold well, piracy apologists will say that the devs have lots of money anyway. If it was mediocre to poor, they'll say the devs don't deserve their money in the first place. If a critically acclaimed game sells terribly, the pirates are suddenly nowhere to be found. The ones that do stick around say that the pirates [[MoralDissonance probably wouldn't have bought the game in the first place]]. ** Let's not forget other forms of pirates...Whenever people complain about not having their console or PC repaired because they violated the terms of service, either the complainers are idiots who should have read the Terms of Service (which they ''should have'' done in the ''first place''), or the developers are being draconian. Whenever an MMORPG company shuts down private servers violating the Terms of Service, bans people for using mods (Specifically ones that are considered exploits or cheats), or bans botters, the developers are either being unfair or the fans are just idiots who deserved to be banned. * DownloadableContent, full stop. Many people see it as simply a way for the developer to extract money from the players beyond the initial purchase. Many see it as extending the worth of a game. People [[Left4Dead will complain bitterly about a game being "unfinished" if there's any DLC at all; regardless of the length of the original game, and they will complain if they feel they're not getting enough]]. They will complain if it comes out "too early"[[hottip:*:The popular perception seems to be that ''every'' DLC that comes out "too soon" was cut out of the original game to make money, which somehow lowers

the value of the original game in the complainers' eyes. Ah, psychology.]] and/or "too late". Remember, ''all'' DLC are ''entirely optional purchases''. [[InternetBackdraft Do not hang around if it turns out that the content was on the disc in the first place]]. ** Occasionally you'll hear fans that complain about the lack of DLC if the company has no plans to release any, or very little. Yet you still hear fans still complaining if they decide to make DLC by popular demand later on for the current game and/or in the sequel. ** Gamers, especially of single-player games, complain when DLC is extra missions, disjointed from the main story(''Fallout3, FalloutNewVegas''). Multiplayer games can just get away with adding new maps, weapons, and character models. * GameplayAndStorySegregation. You just ''know'' that if [[ChronoTrigger Frog was eternally strong enough to cleave mountains in half with a sword mid-game]] that people would complain that the game is ''far too easy'' when he hits enemies for 9999 damage when other characters are dealing 1-200; or how characters who [[ResidentEvil can't use firearms in cutscenes]] likewise stumble with them in gameplay that the game would be [[FakeDifficulty * Gamers frequently complain about "originality" without actually defining what it means. Largely, it seems to be a code for "I like it". ** CallOfDuty is the most recent whipping boy; people complained about Treyarch's ''World at War'' not being another ModernWarfare game. Then when MW 2 came out, it was complained about as well. Then Treyarch decides to make their game about the ColdWar, a largely unexplored time period in games, and gamers keep complaining about how they're being "unoriginal" while rarely naming any specific issues. ** There's often complaints that every game is trying to imitate ModernWarfare(2007) or some other FPS. Yet when ''ShadowComplex''(2009) unashamedly apes ''Super Metroid''(1994), and does it well, everyone pricks up their ears and applauds it. And no one ever complains about the similar gameplay throughout the {{Battlefield}} series, or the several spinoff franchises. Like PennyArcade said, [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/1/8/ the difference between "derivative" and "homage" is whether the person speaking likes the end product]].needlessly hard]]. * [[VideoGameRemake Video game remakes]]. If the remake is similar to the original; except with better graphics, new features, and extra content (PerfectDark, TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime, etc.); [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks the fans complain about the remake being a rehash with a face lift.]] However, if the remake is reimagined and different from the original (ResidentEvil, {{Goldeneye}}, etc.), [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks the fans complain about the remake not staying true the original.]]

[[/folder]] [[folder:Activision Blizzard]] * Fans spent the better part of a decade crying to Blizzard to make ''{{Diablo}} 3''. It's announced, video and screenshots are shown, and

fans complain that it looks too colorful. [[http://www.pennyarcade.com/comic/2008/8/6/ Some went as far as photoshopping the screenshots back to brown.]] Some compared it to "WoW gayness". [[http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/08/04/diablo-iii-designer-turnstables/ Blizzard's response was entertaining.]] ** If you thought that was funny, check out the [[http://www.boothenet.com/wpcontent/uploads/2009/08/d3rainbowlogo.jpg logo the lead designer wore on his t-shirt]] at the following Blizzcon. * ''{{World of Warcraft}}'' forums are full of people complaining about a class being too weak or too strong, especially after the latest efforts of Blizzard to balance things. And don't think more than two people will be able to appreciate added content. For the rest, it will either be repetitive or out of their focus. ** That's not even getting into the massive arguments that Blizzard is "obviously" biased towards one of the two factions. Interestingly (but unsurprisingly) enough, the Alliance players think that Blizzard favors the Horde, and Horde players think Blizzard favors the Alliance. ** Before the release of the second expansion pack, the developers made little to no attempt to balance the Paladin or Shaman classes so that they would be able to serve any function that the other can in a [=PvE=] or [=PvP=] situation. But in [=PvE=], they ultimately wound up to be treated as healers when they were in fact supposed to do whatever, as were Druids, who were most specced towards healing since for a little while, that was the only feasible build. Everyone who played the Druid, Paladin, and shaman classes screamed loud and hard because they were advertised as a jack-of-all-master-of-none class in theory when in practice they were little more than a healing and support character, while the priests, who were dedicated healers, were often ''encouraged'' to spec Shadow for an offensive build. ** When ''Burning Crusade'' was released and the Horde got their paladins and the Alliance got their shamans, more people were complaining that they took the lazy way out instead of balancing the classes. ** When Druids and paladins were finally fixed so they ''could'' function as tanks, healers, or Damage-dealers if they were specialized (And geared) to do so, they wound up becoming perceived as too powerful and then the tanks, damage-dealers and healers complained that they were never even needed. This happens to come after thousands of complaints from warriors wanting to be damage-dealers being "Forced into tanking". ** [=PvP=] gear has apparently been killing the game...Nobody seems to remember how back in 2005, everyone was complaining about how the ''lack of'' dedicated [=PvP=] gear was destroying the game, especially since damage-dealing classes could wear their gear made for [=PvE=] into battlegrounds and utterly dominate everyone stuck trying to get [=PvP=] gear ''by actually doing [=PvP=]''. ** Apparently, more uniform sets that don't require one to keep as many sets of gear in their inventory is ruining the game - whereas extremely gear-dependent classes like Druids, Warriors, and Paladins were popping Champagne and launching fireworks.

** Then there are the complaints about the playable characters' appearances. The tauren and troll females, as well as the blood elf male, were all altered before the release of the game (or, in blood elf male's case, the ''Burning Crusade'' expansion). Apparently The Troll and Tauren females did not look attractive enough and the blood elf male looked too waifish. Of course, there are those who bemoan the changes and complain that the Troll and Tauren now look too human and not enough like their male counterparts, and that the blood elves, being [[strike:drug]] magic addicts, are more realistic as thin. Never mind that the model change for blood elves was mostly done for technical reasons because of skeleton bugs with the old model, and they ''still'' have the thinnest, most effeminate men in the game even after the bulk-up. *** And that's another point of contention, since the Blood Elf male has the ''most realistic'' body structure and proportions of all twelve races, which means people complain about them being "effeminate". ** The next round began with the second expansion, ''Wrath of the Lich King'', going into the beta stage. The developers are changing their design towards more uniform classes that don't require as many different kinds of equipment and are viable in any situation, but of course everyone who plays one of the popular classes in raids or [=PvP=] is up in arms about that, despite many extremely geardependent classes like Warriors, Shamans, and Druids were popping champagne and launching fireworks in celebration after it was announced. ** Speaking of raids, the minority that raids the big stuff is outraged at the notion of having 10 man versions for every raid, even though Blizzard was quick to assure that the 25 man versions are still going to have better and more loot. And the tanks are upset about the idea of another tank class even though most servers have a severe lack of tanks (to the point where tanks still can almost instantly queue for a dungeon), and tanking classes have been complaining since the start about being "Forced into tanking". ** The UI also gets this too. The UI was really not the best at the start, and it was incredibly easy to mod. (Modding was seen as a SureWhyNot.) But after every patch...the beloved UI mods would be made useless. And not after every major content patch...even small emergency patches meant to fix the occasional GameBreakingBug would render UI mods useless for a couple days. Considering most mods would ''drastically'' modify UIs, Blizzard decided to incorporate some features from popular mods (That were also considered "Required" if you wanted to raid or [=PvP=]) into their default UI. Then some people in support of mods cried that Blizzard hates mods (Despite the fact that this allowed modders to be more specific or to customize them even more) even when they do not mind you modding the game and the only mods they have actually cracked down on were borderline bots in the first place and gave people an unfair advantage over people without the mod. The biggest example of crying was from when they cracked down on Decursive and declared it an exploit. The mod Decursive would find a debuff on another player, and if the player who used it could remove it, removes it without even having to target

them. It literally trivialized fights to debuff-removing characters to just hitting one button over and over again. People actually ''complained'' that because of Decursive, ItsEasySoItSucks. But then they ''remove'' decursive, a fanbase that continues to cry that ItsEasySoItSucks complained ''that it made the game too hard!'' ** Hell, even the storyline is subject to this. For instance, since ''WarcraftIII'', the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Horde]] has been ''ChaoticNeutral'' by nature instead of being [[AlwaysChaoticEvil totally evil]], with some [[NobleDemon individuals]] who actually have a good sense of morality such as Thrall, Saurfang, and Cairne as some of their leaders. One of their major objectives is to not invoke any further conflicts with TheAlliance. This was likely done because the Horde in the first two games weren't generally that interesting save for the hilarious gaglines most of the units had. Since then, there has been a small group of individuals who complain about how because the Horde is now a bit LighterAndSofter... [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks they aren't "awesome" anymore]], when really they made the Horde into something a bit more complex than the stereotypical [[BeautyEqualsGoodness Ugly Savage Guys = Evil]] archetype that's already too common in modern fiction. And that's just one of the more tame complaints, leaving out the story from the recent ''Wrath of the Lich King'' expansion and the numerous examples of {{retcon}}ning. ** You know an MMORPG is balanced when every character class is screaming that every other character class needs to be nerfed. *** And in the third expansion Blizzard announced that they were going to focus on the old world...ever since the first expansion pack was released, people whined and complained about how it received such a piss-poor treatment with the only new content being for levels 1-20 on both sides. (only once has there been an instance that wasn't made for high-levels made, and that was years ago when people actually did them.) Now instantly everyone complains about having to retread old ground despite the fact that so many changes will be made it'd feel rather different. Then they even announced that Shadowfang Keep and The Deadmines will be given a heroic revamp, and boss fights like Ragnaros and Nefarian, who the raiders complained were made worthless and trivialized by the expansion were also going to be revamped for the level 85 cap. Then the FanDumb whined about how Blizzard has no creativity by reusing old content and "Revamping dungeons that don't need to be revamped". Yes, they're revamping the ''two most loved instances in the bloody GAME'' that ''to this day'' are still praised on the forums. Revamping dungeons that don't need it would be if Blizzard had chosen such [[ThatOneLevel Scrappy levels]] as Uldaman or Gnomeregan, which even the ''developers'' admit they screwed up with. **** Gnomeregan is going to be retaken by the Gnomes come a later patch before Cataclysm comes out and will be their central city in Cataclysm. The same is happening with the Trolls and Echo Isles for the Horde. Already there are players crying about the loss of one of the most boring and hated old-world instances in the game. ***** [[spoiler:Apparently, the instance is still in the game, since the gnomes only liberate the parts up to the instance portal]]. ** Apparently, the new cross-server instances are killing the game, when those of us who were stuck trying to find groups to do simple

heroics or even normals on wasteland servers where everyone wants to instead do 10-mans and 25-mans are thanking Blizzard for the early Christmas present or saying stuff like "About freaking time!", because finding groups for lower-level dungeons is a nightmare. ** There was one poster at the WoW forums who summed up the fans' attitude very neatly in this signature: ->More content = more whining. ->Less content = more whining. ->Static content = more whining. * [[http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677635725 A list of things]] that has [[RuinedForever ruined World of Warcraft forever.]] ([[DontExplainTheJoke Literally every change in the game.]]) * ''{{Starcraft}} II'' is another nasty example of this trope. The biggest points of contention are the changes to the UI which include: allowing players to select more than 12 units at a time, being able to select more than one building at a time, and allowing workers to automatically gather minerals after being built when the player sets a rally point to it. These changes have caused enormous amount of arguing between the hardcore players who believe these changes are ruining the "macromanagement", or economical, portion of the game, and casual players who believe these UI changes are beneficial and should be included without question. ** The UI debatealso caused even more fighting about the whole concept of macromanagement in general from those who believe that base/economy management is essential to a Real-Time Strategy game, and those who believe that those aspects of the game are "boring" and should focus more on the army fighting instead.Blizzard has attempted to placate both crowds by keeping the UI changes in the game, but implementing "macro mechanics" that boost resource gain when utilized. This has simmered down the UI debate mostly, but debates still continue to spring up from both sides of the debate who accuse Blizzard of "caving in" to the opposing crowd. ** Yet another hot-button issue was the decision to release ''{{Starcraft}} II'' as a trilogy, where each part has one large campaign dedicated to one race instead of three small campaigns dedicated to each race. Blizzard's reasoning is that the trilogy allows them to greatly enhance the game's storytelling quality by allowing them to add in much more content, characters, and lore for each race without having to squeeze it all into a tiny 10-mission campaign. The fanbase is split as to whether this is an improvement in single-player RTS quality or a money grab. ** Now that the beta has been released, some critics are complaining [[{{ptitlezx89c5u5txaj}} it's too much like the original]]. For those of you who don't get it, the original ''{{Starcraft}}'' is frequently held up as [[SoCoolItsAwesome the perfect RTS]]. It's not clear what changes the critics were expecting for the sequel. Perhaps they thought the game would come with a kitten n' lollipop dispenser? * ''{{Call of Duty}}: ModernWarfare'' was a critically acclaimed game with a few {{Wham Episode}}s. The sequel was accused by some disgruntled fans of making plot coherence secondary to maximizing the amount of {{HSQ}} and {{Wham Episode}}s. In other words, fans

complained the developer tried(and arguably failed) to make the game ''too awesome''. ** There's also a lot of TheyChangedItNowItSucks ''and'' ItIsTheSameNowItSucks, for the textbook definition of this trope. *** And let us not forget the constant bitching from the multiplayer crowd. "Oh God the online sucks because Javelin glitch!" They fix it and suspend people who do it. "Oh God the online sucks because Ranked Private Matches and instant 10th prestige and hyper-chipmunk-speed!" They patch up the servers. "Oh God the online sucks because Model 1887s have the range of [=SMGs=] when Akimbo is on them!" They fix that. "Oh God the online sucks because oops you forgot to fix it when it has Bling with FMJ on it!" They fix it again. "Oh God the online sucks because infinite Care Packages and Emergency Airdrops!" They make it so you can't use the D-Pad when you vault onto a ledge. "Oh God the online sucks because all this enjoyable shit is gone I'm going to noobtube people now and spam grenades and rockets WAAAAH!" '''Goddamn.''' *** Anyone remembers that before the game was released, Infinity Ward asked fans to send suggestions about what they'd like to see in ''ModernWarfare 2''? No? There's nothing like reading a few dozen comments begging for an AC-130 killstreak on an article eight months before the release, only to see everyone complaining about it later and calling Infinity Ward the worst developers ever, nevermind that they made three universally acclaimed games before ''ModernWarfare 2''. ** Some fans complained that [=MW2=] was effectively an extended MissionPackSequel. Fair enough. Once the multiplayer teaser for ''CallOfDuty: Black Ops'' was released, showcasing such new toys such as ballistic knives, exploding RC cars and dynamite crossbows, fans immediately started to complain that the game looked "gimmicky". ** Video game remakes. If the remake is the game that's similar to the original with better graphics and extra content (''Perfect Dark'', ''The Legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time'', etc.), [ItsTheSameNowItSucks the fans complain about the remake being a rehash with a face lift.] However, when the game is reimagined and different from the original (''Resident Evil'', ''Goldeneye'', etc.), [TheyChangedItNowItSucks the fans complain about the remake not being like the original.] [[/folder]] [[folder:Electronic Arts]] * MassEffect2 is known for this. People complained about the MAKO in ME, then they complained that the MAKO was not in ME2. People complained about the inventory system in ME and people complain about the streamlined system. Worse, [[FanDumb you hear complainers cry that]] [[InsaneTrollLogic ''Mass Effect is ''NOT'' an RPG and ruins the definition of the RPG'']], despite that fans wanted these changes. I think it's offical that the Mass Effect fanbase is unreleasable because no matter what Bioware does, people still complain. * There are normally two reactions to ''StarWars [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic The Old Republic]]'', an {{MMORPG}} being

made by {{BioWare}} [who made also made ''[=KotOR=] 1'']: ** #1- SWEET! BioWare is making a ''StarWars'' MMO that will [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Galaxies not suck for once]]! Yay! ** #2- What? An MMO?! WHERE THE FUCK IS [=KOTOR=] III! IT CAN'T END WITH THAT SHITTY ENDING THAT WE GOT FROM [[ExecutiveMeddling LUCASARTS FUCKING WITH OBSIDIAN]]! BIOWARE HAS BETRAYED US!!!!! *** Some people also split the difference. *** It doesn't stop there. BioWare has recently released news that not only will players be able to play as species like the Sith Purebloods, which have never, ''ever'' been explored before, but the Miraluka as well. Yes, ''those'' [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Miraluka]]. And now people are bitching because BioWare didn't say they could play as ridiculous things like Hutts and Yoda's species. * "TheSims 3" has a particularly unpleasable fanbase, mainly centering around allegedly {{Game Breaking Bug}}s. The main offenders tend to be: The sims are doughy and unrealistic, The sims are FAR more realistic than the ones in the prequel, There isn't enough stuff in the basegame, There's actually MORE stuff in the basegame by comparison to the other games, There should be MORE in the game because half of it's in the Store to milk our money, The Store is, indeed, evil, The creators need pay somewhere so the store is a little justified, Story Progression and traits are awesome!, Traits are bland and Story Progression sucks! -- to name a glaring few. The only thing people seem able to agree on at all is the fact that EA dropped the ball somewhere in making this game. * ''SimCity'', especially past 3000 and 4, have spawned an enormous UnpleasableFanbase towards Maxis and Will Wright. Indeed, ''Societies'' was a bit easier and removed a lot of features (such as railways and zoning), but had you gone to a forum for [=SC4=], you'll see many a [[StopHavingFunGuys skilled player]] complaining how pointless railroads are and how it's better to "plop" your buildings instead of zoning things out. ** It's a real nightmare more so for those who want to create and mod custom content into the game though. If you do something actually creative, you get attacked for being an idiot and not knowing anything about realism, and if you do something that resembles what Maxis would have done, you get attacked for being a lame copycat. [[/folder]] [[folder:Microsoft]] * The particularly vocal elements of the ''{{Halo}}'' fanbase had such a violently negative reaction to the inclusion of ''bosses'' in ''Halo 2'' that there were no boss-like enemies in ''{{Halo}} 3.'' Naturally, ''{{Halo}}"' fans then complained about the lack of a decisive confrontation with the Gravemind. ** Not to mention the flame wars raging over the Assault Rifle. In Halo 1, people thought it was worthless. In Halo 2, people wanted it back. In Halo 3, now that they had it back, they complained about how it sucked and was weak and innaccurate.

*** And don't even bring up dual weilding unless you want to have flames intense enough to melt your monitor. ** Similar with the Battle Rifle. It was a game breaker in Halo 2 and people cried out for Bungie to remove it. In Halo 3, they complained about how the Battle Rifle had been {{nerfed}}. Then, there was more crying in ODST about how there was no Battle Rifle. Then in the reach Beta, people were outraged over its omission, resulting in groups literally going through the forum indices and reporting Battle Rifle vs DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle) threads. ** When Halo 2 came out, fans screamed TheyChangedItNowItSucks. When Halo 3 came out, fans screamed ItIsTheSameNowItSucks. Who knows what they're complaining about for Halo Reach, but knowing the unpleasable, they'll find a reason. *** This troper has had the [[SarcasmMode pleasure]] of running into some of the complainers online. They complain about the lack of a Battle Rifle and say how much they hate the DMR, the complain about the bloom, they complain about no dual wielding, they complain about the lack of competitiveness (Anyone whose ever played Arena knows that it is VERY competitive) and how anyone can advance through the ranks just by playing a lot and not by earning skill. Yeah, it's not like [[CallOfDuty any other popular games do ANYTHING like that]] In this troper's humble opinion, these people are blinded by nostalgia and will never be satisfied with anything, no wonder Bungie is bailing on Halo. ** One of the common complaints from fans of the series is TheyChangedItNowItSucks. One of the common complaints from critics of the series is that the series was never really innovative at all, and all the subsequent main games were ItIsTheSameNowItSucks. Notice a contradiction here? ** And now Halo 4 has been announced, God help 343 Industries, no matter what they do they will feel the wraith of the fanboys. * '''Microsoft'''. XBox gets complained about for being heavy. 360 is maligned for its frequent failures, lack of backwards compatibility, and the mere existence of the Arcade version. The Zune is belittled for being curbstomped by the iPod in every possible way (which isn't even Microsoft's ''fault''). Office 2007 for spending Gateloads on changing the interface to try and be more accessible to new users [[http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=605 and accidentally confusing the veteran ones]]. Windows 98 was denigrated for breaking Windows 95 drivers. Windows 2000 and NT were...pretty good, actually. Windows ME was talked down to for being [[SoBadItsHorrible a buggy, broken mess]]. Windows XP was lambasted for being a candy-coated version of Windows, and changing the Start menu. Windows Vista was taken to the cleaners for breaking XP's drivers (an issue which has been mostly addressed by 2010, [[CommonKnowledge but people think it's still extant]]), and the irritating User Account Control. Finally, people have griped about [[TheAce Windows 7]] being everything Vista should've been out've the gate. [[{{TakeThat/Commercials}} A certain campaign by Apple hasn't helped]] with any of these. [[/folder]]

[[folder:Nintendo]] * Everyone complains about how Nintendo is just milking the same franchises over and over again, and how they claim that they and other second-parties need to come up with new franchises - except for some odd reason, ''nobody notices them when they are announced''. Nintendo can run an entire E3 lineup with only ''one'' Mario game, and all sorts of second-and-third party exclusives that are ''entirely'' new franchises, and the fans will fixate exclusively on the Mario game and ignore ''all'' the new franchises. ** Amusingly, Nintendo has either developed or published a total of ''Twenty Five'' new Intellectual Properties in the past ''six years''. Yet if you ask anyone about stuff like ''EndlessOcean'' or ''HotelDusk'', they'll probably give you a blank stare and continue saying "WE WANT MORE FRANCHISES!!" Even if they publish an old IP, people ignore this too. (''{{Glory of Heracles}}'', anyone?) * The ''[[SuperMarioBros Mario]]'' fanbase is no better. During the days of ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', the base was divided up by people who loved the new 3D gameplay and people who hated it and insisted 2D was better. ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'' was bashed for not living up to the standards of ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', complained about the "gimmicky" water pack, and whined that some parts of the game were simply too hard. Speed up to ''SuperMarioGalaxy'' and the fanbase now complains that it's way too easy to get to the final boss after collecting 60 stars, despite the fact that the game has several challenges that can almost be considered NintendoHard. Some of the Mario fans even go so far as to loathe the spin offs like ''MarioKart'' for being a milking machine, even though most reviews agree that the spin offs are pretty good. Poor Mario simply can't please everyone. ** Bowser's "Koopaling" children have gotten their own UnpleasableFanbase. In Nintendo's early days, they only appeared twice; once each in ''SuperMarioBros 3'' and once each in ''SuperMarioWorld''. They pulled a ''{{Metroid}}'' and simply disappeared for several years, leaving fans confused. When ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'' revealed Bowser Jr. as Bowser's new kid, fans cried foul and wanted their precious Koopa children back. There was an attempt to placate this part of the base when ''Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga'' brought the Koopalings back as [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere bosses with no lines or role in the game]]. *** Now that the Koopalings are coming back alongside Bowser Jr. for ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'', fans are complaining about having two Toads acting as players three and four as opposed to <insert character(s) here>. *** Made worse when Miyamoto gave a response (though it could be just a joke) on why Princess Peach isn't playable in the game. Fans were naturally not happy. * Speaking of ''MarioKart'', don't even mention Snaking to ''Mario Kart'' Fans ever. Some say it's the only true test of skill, and others say it's just a cheap GameBreaker.

* ''[[TheLegendOfZelda Zelda]]'' fans often suffers from this trope; it's really quite funny to see fans' hatred of the last Zelda game (currently ''SpiritTracks'') be replaced by their hatred of the newest game (now ''SkywardSword''). So it goes on, when the next ''Zelda'' game comes out a load of people will be "disappointed" and suddenly ''SkywardSword'' wasn't bad at all...and then it will have to deal with ''{{Ocarina of Time}}''. ''ToughActToFollow''. ** After ''Wind Waker'' was released, many articles were written suggesting that all the playing with the formula was bad and that Nintendo shouldn't muck about with three-day time limits or oceans most articles requesting a game like ''{{Ocarina of Time}}''. When that game did come in the form of ''TwilightPrincess'', the same people asserted that the Zelda formula was "played out" and that Nintendo ought to try new things with the franchise instead of sticking to the old stuff. ** A recent trend/fad has surfaced for people to decry ''{{Ocarina of Time}}'' as "bland, overrated, and generally not good" now that ''TwilightPrincess'' is released, while singing the never-ending praises of ''[[MajorasMask Majora's Mask]]''. This from the same groups who lauded ''Ocarina'' as perfect and untarnishable during ''TheWindWaker''-era, stating that ''[[MajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' was "too different; too short; hard to play" etc. The flip-flopping is headache inducing. *** ''{{Ocarina of Time}}'' and ''[[MajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' use ''the same game engine.'' Liking one over another is fine, but saying one is good and the other is bad...generally doesn't make much sense given their intense similarities. *** When ''TwilightPrincess'' was in development, Nintendo was inundated by complaints about an apparent lack of Ganon. Interviews constantly asked for his presence, and the fans decried that the serious tone of ''Twilight Princess'' deserved to have Ganon appear in the game and that leaving him out would make for an empty experiences. Nintendo only mentioned that he would be in the game, but never released any screens featuring him, leading many to accuse them of lying about his presence. When the game came out and Ganon was TheManBehindTheMan...the complaints changed to accusing Nintendo of being too clich and complaining that they should have left Ganon out and focused a new villain instead, declaring the plot having been HijackedByGanon in their rage. ** Now that ''[[TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' has been revealed in all of its splendor, ''[[HistoryRepeats sure enough]]'', there are people who are complaining about the art style-now that it's "simply an unintelligible puddle of the ''The Wind Waker'' style '''and''' the ''Twilight Princess'' style." Basically, the only way they would stop complaining would be if it looked like ''Ocarina of Time''. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption Nintendo simply cannot win, can they]]?! *** That wouldn't work. ''Twilight Princess'' looked quite a bit like ''Ocarina of Time'' in its graphical style, and people just found other things to complain about. ** Now it's gotten so bad that people are complaining that Link where's pants instead of tights, and that he's right handed instead of

left. ** And it just doesn't stop there. The upcoming Ocarina of Time remake for the 3DS is also receiving crap for reportedly having the Water Temple fixed so that it will not be the ScrappyLevel it was years ago, and dumbing down the game. Of course, being a remake, it's being derided as a "cash grab", despite the frequent cries for Zelda rereleases, ''especially'' [=OoT=]''. *** I've heard no such thing. And all they did was add a bottom screen menu, and make the Iron Boots selectable, which nowhere near solves the overall frustration of the Water Temple, which is still fraught with {{Backtracking}} [[DownTheDrain slowly through several submerged tunnels]]. A better solution would be to give Link Zora Flippers, [[OlympicSwimmer giving him the ability to swim gracefully and quickly]]. * The Virtual Console service from Nintendo's Wii has also sparked an UnpleasableFanbase, mostly within {{GameFAQs}}. Every week when the games are announced, the fans are divided into the following: *** "Oh wow, I loved that game!" *** "OMG THIS GAME SUCKS!! I DON'T CARE IF IT HAS TOO MANY [[ExiledFromContinuity LICENSING ISSUES!!]] I WANT ''[[EarthBound EARTHBOUND]]''!" *** "Ugh, more shovelware? Another crappy week." *** "Pfft, I could get those games on a collection disc." *** "Five bucks for an NES game?! Bulltonk!" *** "Just get the ROM!" *** "Man, Xbox Live has it and better." *** "[[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch I've never heard of this game, therefore it sucks]]." *** "Where's my ''[[WorldOfMana Secret of Mana]]'', N.O.E.? Don't [[NoExportForYou screw me over]], dood." * Some people complained that ''[[AnimalCrossing Animal Crossing: City Folk]]'' for the Wii lacks the NES games that the GameCube version had, despite the above-mentioned Virtual Console allowing people to buy NES games. ** What about Wild World, that didn't have NES games, and people didn't complain then. * The ''FireEmblem'' fandom tends to be a YourMileageMayVary series in itself, but one of the most glaring examples of unpleasable fanbase happened between ''Path of Radiance'' and ''Radiant Dawn''. A large number of the fans complained that Path of Radiance was ridiculously easy (it doesn't help that the series is infamous for its violent arguments over CharacterTiers). So when the sequel was made more difficult, just as many fans came back and complained it was too hard. * For that matter, remake ''any'' video game and you're guaranteed to have people complain that the game doesn't stay true to the original while other people love the said remake. Hell, remake any level or port a level over (such as in ''MarioKart Wii'' or ''SuperSmashBros Brawl'') and you'll get people who hate the levels themselves or liked it in the past and now claim it sucks. * Speaking of ''SuperSmashBros.'', ever since the Japanese release, various forums were inundated with complaints about the roster, mostly due to such complaints as many characters not being playable,

[[{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} Mewtwo]] not being in the game despite Lucario attempting to be [[{{Expy}} a refinement of his movelist]], and most vehemently, three characters from ''StarFox'' with essentially the same special moves, including "identical" [[LimitBreak Final Smashes]]. ** Since both "casual" and "professional" players play this series, there are two equally large groups of people who have opposite opinions of what the series should be like. *** Some people are complaining that it's not different enough from ''Melee'', the stages are too gimmicky (earlier there was a complaint to the effect that the stages all looked like they were going to be dull Battlefield retreads), etc. *** Others are complaining that it's not ''Melee'' enough with the removal of Wavedashing and L-Cancelling, among other things. *** Hilariously, some people claim Brawl is what fractured the Super Smash Bros fan base. That fanbase has always been broken, it just got bigger and more noticable with each new instalment. *** It only goes down from here. People have actually [[http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199260 hacked the game and changed the physics to make it be like Melee again]]. * ''[[{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} Pokmon]]'' has several examples of these in nearly every facet. In the anime, people complain about how characters are [[FlatCharacter too dull]] or [[SpotlightStealingSquad overshowcased]], while some still complain about other characters [[OutOfFocus being dumped]] or [[DemotedToExtra left out altogether]]. In the games, people complained that there were too many new Pokmon and were unable to enjoy their old favourites, now they introduced new evolutions and people greatly dislike them. Another example could be in ''Pokmon Colosseum''. People wanted a Pokmon RPG on the console and they wanted it to be {{Darker and Edgier}}, they got it in ''Pokmon Colosseum'', but then fans complained that it wasn't like the original games. Case in point - many fans think double battles are pretty lame in general, so making a game featuring ''nothing but'' was a pretty bad move; others love doubles battles, because it forces players to think of a different paradigm for building teams, as some moves become more useful and some become much less so. ** To say nothing of the main games themselves. There was almost constant outcry prior to the release of Diamond and Pearl in Japan about just about every piece of information found about the games. This ranged from "''Pokmon X'' Sucks!" to "Physical/special move split?! ''Pokmon'' is RuinedFOREVER!" When the games came out, things quieted down. But you still get people complaining that Game Freak is running out of ideas for new Pokmon. *** When [[strike:Kotone]] Lyra came into the picture the fanbase broke into four groups. People that like her, and people that don't. People that think she is "Kris" and people [[ReplacementScrappy who don't.]] ** And of course, "I want different Pokmon games! ItsTheSameSoItSucks!" and "They should make a sequel" cries of how similar most Pokmon games are (Especially by non-fans or people who abandoned it at Red, Blue, and Yellow). Then come games that are different like ''Pokmon Snap'', ''Pokmon Ranger'', and ''Pokmon

Mystery Dungeon''. And what are the number one complaints? That they're not like the mainstream Pokmon games! *** But those are spinoffs. I think some of the fans want the core series itself to evolve. *** "I want ''Pokmon'' to be DarkerAndEdgier! And focus more on plot!" Then comes stuff like ''Colosseum'' and ''XD'', and nobody's buying them. Either that, or they're saying "...It's not like Red, Blue, and yellow! Therefore, IT SUCKS!". ** And the most recent amount of stupidity? The original games were named after colours. Red, Blue, and Yellow. The next generation named them after metals, but they were also colours. Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald were named after gems, but they were ''also'' colours. Fire Red and Leaf Green were ''also'' colour-themed names, but also elements. Diamond, Pearl and Platinum were then named after two gems (A pearl is often considered a gem despite being different), and a metal. All three of which, are ''also colours'' - and then [[ScapegoatCreator Nintendo]] was told by the HateDumb that "They're running out of ideas" and "I liked it better when they were named after colours". Then Generation V has games announced. And what are they? ''COLOURS'' - and then the fandom either brought about "Huh, interesting. I thought they'd have done this sooner", or "WTF?! YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS!!!!" ** Whenever a new Pokemon is shown, the responses are... *** "[[MisBlamed Nintendo]] [[ScapegoatCreator is running out of ideas!]] *** "WTF is this?" *** "That actually looks kinda cool." *** "Ooooh. nice type combo!" *** "Hey, why didn't they put this in sooner?" *** "[[NostalgiaFilter I LIKED GENERATION I BETTER!!!]]" ** The Card game also gets a lot of hate, mostly due to it being around for so long and people who drop out look at the new stuff that's come out and think "It's all gimmicky and stupid". Similar events have even happened to constantly-evolving-trading card games that are still around (and popular!) like ''MagicTheGathering'' and ''[=~Yu-Gi-Oh!~=]''. * The most common cry from Nintendo gamers as a whole is to demand more creativity and originality, such as new [=IPs=], and moan about the flood of sequels and never-ending franchises. However, whenever Nintendo makes a shot at it, they will turn around and complain that Nintendo has stopped making video games for the "core". Don't ever expect a definition of "core" by the way - to these guys, even ''{{Metroid}}'' has to be a casual game for this argument to work. For example: Nintendo releasing ''Metroid'' is "milking", while Nintendo releasing ''WiiFit'' is "abandoning the core". With the announcement of a new ''[[PunchOut Punch-Out!!]]'' and a Treasure-developed sequel to import darling ''SinAndPunishment'', [[AndTheFandomRejoiced the doomsday prophecies have stopped]]...''[[OrIsIt for now.]]'' *** They're back in full-force: the same people who bitch and moan that gaming is more obsessed with good graphics than good gameplay have done nothing but bitch and moan that ''{{Sin and Punishment}}'' looks like a Dreamcast game.

*** And ''Punch-Out!!'' is getting heat for being too old-school; lacking options and features and being called "a $50 NES remake". *** On top of that, people whined about the lack of multiplayer, but when it was announced to have local multiplayer only, everyone then whined about the lack of online play. **** They tried to do this to Excite Bots, the sequel to Excite Truck, bemoaning the addition of minigames and a kiddy look... Then they realized that the 'minigames' are done AS one races and allows you to earn more trick stars, that the bot designs facilitate it, [[AndTheFandomRejoiced that it plays like Excite Truck but uses the Wii Wheel, that it's online, and that trick meter goes up at least 25 instead of 5]]. Now it's praised for taking everything loved about Excite Truck and cranking it UpToEleven. * Not even ''TheConduit'' is safe. While most critics and some gamers are excited that the Wii is getting a decent first person shooter, most gamers are snuffing the game as "just another generic FPS". Note that the fans (possibly the same people) wanted some good FPS games on the Wii in the past. * Let's just face facts: Nintendo games ''in general'' suffer from unpleasable fanbases. ''StarFox'' has fans who want more variety and fans who just want to fly in their Arwing. ''DonkeyKong'' has fans with the desire for a new 2D game but hated ''Donkey Kong Jungle Beat''. ''{{Metroid}}'' has fans who hate the ''Prime'' Subseries, but also hated ''Metroid Fusion''. ''Even back when Nintendo was test marketing the '''original''' NES'', everyone in the test group said they hated it. ** It must be clarified that ''Metroid Fusion'' isn't as highly regarded as ''Super Metroid'' or ''Metroid: Zero Mission'', especially because [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks of the criticism it received for the slightly on-rail nature of the game via the computer system]] which ran contrary to the free exploration of the [[{{Metroidvania}} subgenre]] the series [[TropeCodifier codified]]. * ''Wii Music'', the cornerstone of the E3 2008 Press Conference, went straight to XPacHeat to [[FanDumb some gamers on the internet]]. * The fanbase can't be even pleased with the way Nintendo treats third parties. Either Nintendo was too strict for putting up many arbitrary rules they had to follow or they're too loose for letting them make anything they want. ** Nintendo has been blamed multiple times for scaring developers away by "treating them poorly" during the Gamecube days, though [[CommonKnowledge good luck getting an example or source backing that up]]. They are being blamed for "letting" too much crap games onto the Wii. Their standards haven't really changed at all. Sony of America is in fact the strictest of any of the branches of any of the three console makers. Much of the so called shovelware on the Wii are actually ports of European and Japanese PS2 games. *** Speaking of Nintendo and 3rd parties, some people believe that [[CommonKnowledge bringing back the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" will end the shovelware the Wii has been getting]]. People seem to forget that the Seal of Quality does not have anything to do with the game's content, but was a measure taken by Nintendo to counteract the problems Atari faced with shoddy, unauthorized games flooding the

market and killing their profits (a huge factor in the video game crash of 1983). The Seal of Quality simply tells the buyer that the game is a genuine Nintendo-certified product. If ''Superman 64'' could get the Seal of Quality, what does ''that'' tell you? *** I just checked my copies of Rayman: Raving Rabbids and LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga, and they both got the seal of quality, so it's also an example of DidNotDoTheResearch **** Then you must be from a PAL region country, since those complains come from North America, where the "Seal of Quality" was replaced with "Official Nintendo Seal". * Nintendo's Wii Motion + is getting tons of flack (it's an accessory that gives 1:1 motion controls or close to it). First people whined that it should have been in the controllers from day 1 (and they ignored Nintendo's comment that it would have made the controllers expensive at the get go) and when the price for the add on was announced for $20, now people are whining that it's too much money. When it comes to the virtual console or Nintendo's add-ons, the fans decry Nintendo as being greedy for profits. * The ''MetroidPrime'' Trilogy has been announced; all three games in the trilogy, the first two with updated graphics and controls for the Wii, for only the price of one new game. Fans promptly started complaining about ''the rerelease they've been asking for'' screwing over "the fans", and how Nintendo doesn't care about their loyal fans, etc, just because the announcement mentions that not every Wii owner owned a Gamecube. Also because of the rumoured--I repeat, ''rumoured''--fourth game in the series not being announced yet. Yes, even ''rumours'' are Nintendo's fault now. * Things get worse at E3 2009. Nintendo announced a sequel to ''SuperMarioGalaxy'', something you'd think people would want after all the years of crying and lamenting about it being "forgotten" and ignored in favor of ''WiiFit'', but after seeing a 1 minute trailer, [[TaintedByThePreview everyone now says Galaxy 2 will suck because it's just a rehash of the first]]. They also ignore the fact that you can use Yoshi this time and new things still have to be revealed down the road. People have been dying for a new Zelda game and when ''Spirit Tracks'' was announced, people bashed it just because it was on the DS and not on the Wii. Oh, and then there's ''Metroid: Other M'', the long-demanded full-3D platformer iteration of the franchise being produced by Team Ninja and coming completely out of nowhere...and everyone's complaining that it has too much action and now they all want ''Prime'' back. **** This is doubly ironic, because when Prime first came out, some fans of the original were complaining it was too FPS-y, and FPS fans were complaining about all the platforming. Not ''many'' of them, mind you. * Club Nintendo. Most of the fans blasted Nintendo of America for not having this (a customer loyalty program) since Japan and Europe had it for years already. Nintendo of America announced around 2008 that they would get into the Club Nintendo business. People that registered games and systems would earn coins that could be used to redeem rewards. Many fans complained that the current rewards were garbage compared to the other rewards from the other regions. Once the elite

rewards were announced (special gifts for members who reached gold or platinum status by the end of the club year), the complaints rose again for the rewards being not as good as the other regions - the EU and Japan programs have Wii Points and video game OST/OSV's available, while the priciest item for the American version is a deck of Hanafuda cards. * ''GoldenEye'' has started to get this ever since a remake for it was announced. Fans who been wanting Goldeneye again for ages now complain that the remake will suck because Activision is making it instead of Rare and how James Bond in the game is not based on the same actor they modeled off of from the N64 version. * Nintendo [[CommonKnowledge is known]] for releasing new iterations of their systems with improvements users requested. (This is largely confined to the handheld systems.) Fans will then complain about how Nintendo "always" releases new [=SKUs=]. So if Nintendo does nothing, people complain, and when they do make improvements, people complain about "being forced" to buy the new hardware. ** Similarly, everyone demanded Nintendo to make an HD version of the Wii. Nintendo did exactly that with the WiiU with different motion controls. Now people are complaining that the Wii U is just another Wii with the same games and gimmicks. * When ''{{EpicMickey}}'' was announced, fans were split between "Ooh, old retro Mickey Mouse, Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, a morality system, and a whole bunch of characters I've never heard of being recognized in a gloomy version of Disneyland? Nice!" to "IT'S NOT LIKE KINGDOM HEARTS! WHERE'S THE KEYBLADE INSTEAD OF A SISSY-ASS PAINTBRUSH?! NINTENDO AND DISNEY HAVE FAILED US AGAIN!" despite the obvious on who actually MADE the game. As well as getting the series wrong. * When the Playstation2 made DVD playback in consoles popular, people blasted Nintendo for not having the same feature in the Gamecube and Wii. Netflix announced later on during the Wii's time that they would offering their services to the Wii via streaming. This somewhat quelled the complainers. When it was revealed that Netflix would be on the Wii U, people exploded that the Wii U will now suck because it cannot play [=DVDs=]. * The WiiU is also having outcries from Nintendo fans over its controller and the design itself is not what most people are complaining about. First, people whined that the console would support only one Wii U controller, despite Nintendo saying after that things could change later and that 2 Wii U controllers are possible to use on one system. Second, after Nintendo revealed the console would be bundled with only one controller to keep costs down since the controllers may be very expensive, people still cried that the console should have more than one controller bundled. Ship the Wii U with one controller to lower price or ship with 2 controllers to keep people happy and not buy extras, Nintendo can't win and the system is not even out yet. [[/folder]] [[folder:Sony]] * Ponder ''{{Killzone}} 2'', why don't we? After the [=E3=] video a

few years back was admitted to be fake, Sony promised the game would look and play like the video. Fast forward a few years, and from the review scores, Sony seems to have delivered, serving out a solid, if not particularly original, game. The Sony {{fanboy}}s have been, naturally, crowing about all the positive reviews and flaming anything less than 9.0. One outlier [[http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/692992/Sesslers-Soapbox-KillzoneMailbag.html took issue with XPlay's 5 out of 5 score]](video {{NSFW}}). Specifically, he said that the voiceover sounded "reluctant" to admit the game was worthy of full marks. You may boggle now. * The '''[[NoExportForYou European]]''' PlaystationNetwork. With the [[{{Understatement}} quite poor]] "line-up" of [[PSOne PSOne Classics]], Sony's European branch (SCEE) is basically ''creating its own'' UnpleasableFanbase. Let's just say that if you're an American user, browsing our European store is a CrowningMomentOfFunny. Yes, you're free to laugh at us (exceptions: CrashBandicoot, KulaWorld, MetalGearSolid, FinalFantasy, {{Rayman}}, {{Tekken}} [[NotSoFastBucko currently only the second]] - {{Medievil}} and the [[SarcasmMode so needed]] Disney licensed games; the rest is about 90% [[{{Understatement}} rather obscure]] games). And the Playstation Blog, as far as I know (Italian user), every week discussing the update results in either enraged comments, [[FacePalm simply indifferent]] comments or in comments [[FlameWar that defend SCEE in every possible way]]. And the only few times the [[AndTheFandomRejoiced fandom rejoiced]], it was because of [[FinalFantasyVII oh]]-[[FinalFantasyVIII guess]]-[[FinalFantasyIX who]]. The situation can be basically summed up with what, as for today (11th of August, 2010), a user said in the Italian blog: ''"But then... I ask myself: if Sony [[DigitalPiracyIsEvil doesn't want us to buy stuff on other Stores]], [[FridgeLogic why doesn't it try to make the European store as filled-with-contents as the other two are?]] The day before yesterday I was browsing the American store [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial (without buying anything, mind you)]] and I was almost on the verge of TearsOfJoy when I saw how long their PSOne Classics page is."''.Need I say more? ** [[http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/01/31/psone-classics-wherewe-all-stand/ Sony does]]. * Speaking of the PSN, who can forget the unexpected 25 day PSN outage that happened literally a day after the releases of Portal 2, Mortal Kombat 2011, and SOCOM 4 (i.e., April 20th, 2011)? Most fans were patient and understanding through this period, but a minority of fans acted like complete babies. Several decried Sony for building a crappy enough network for hackers to get in without much skill (despite a computer security expert saying that security breaches happen periodically, could happen to any company, and that Sony's breach was unusually bad), and some people went so far to sell their system to get an Xbox 360 (mostly Call of Duty PS3 gamers who couldn't fight the itch to play Black Ops almost everyday). Some even were infuriated that Sony's appreciation package (which includes a free month for PSN plus, and some free game downloads) wasn't enough to make up for the security breach, and was a slap in the face for gamers who had their

credit card info stolen. Let's just say Xbox and Nintendo fanboys had a field day during this period. [[/folder]] [[folder:Square Enix]] * ''FinalFantasy'' in general suffers from an unpleasable fanbase. As every game is set in a functionally different world, with different characters, and lately completely different gameplay styles it is unsurprising that virtually everyone has a different opinion on which games are best, or worst, and which characters and plots are best and worst, etc. Essentially every time a fan likes a certain game, the next one will be so different than the one he or she liked originally that they'll immediately hate it. "I wanted a game like Final Fantasy Q but instead I got this Final Fantasy R thing that I never wanted!" is the gist of what the average fan will say. And this was going on * before* Square decided to make direct sequels and spin-offs of individual titles, which often were strange gameplay experiments that rarely were similar to the original title. For example ''FinalFantasyVII'' is a traditional RPG, but its sequel ''DirgeOfCerberus'' was a third-person-shooter, and its prequel ''CrisisCore'' was an action RPG. ItGotWorse for the FinalFantasy series in recent years when the row-based combat (essentially the only thing tradition FinalFantasy games had in common) was ditched thus making the last three or four main FinalFantasy games next-tounrecognizable as even being in the same series. Recently the head of Square Enix even expressed concern over ''FinalFantasyXIII'''s negative response. ** And what happened when they did start making direct sequels after years of begging for more games set in the individual game universes? The fans complained that they were just [[ItsPopularNowItSucks milking the popularity.]] * On the topic of gamers clamoring for originality - for all the harping about Square Enix for continuing to make ''FinalFantasy'' games, there's an equal amount of fury every time they release a non''FinalFantasy'' title on the basis that they should be releasing more ''FinalFantasy'' games. This year sees them launching several new franchises, and what does everyone focus on instead? That ''FinalFantasy XIII'' isn't out yet. ** Everyone also doesn't seem to realize that SquareEnix tends to experiment with gameplay mechanics per game, and will be ''very'' quick to complain about how generic gameplay is. * ''FinalFantasyXI'': Changes were made to two-handed weapons, which people complained about being inferior to one-handed weapons, only for a sizable portion of the fanbase to complain that they were ''[[GameBreaker too powerful]]'', even some of those that wanted the change. ** Hey, the purported purpose was to make both 1 and 2 handed weaponry on par with each other. It took FOUR patches for them to get the damage calculations right; very few people complain about it now. The initial changes simply changed people from one 'onry' to another and

prove that the players are the testers - no _practical_ pre release testing happens. ** Every time Square-Enix releases an patch, each item in the patch notes (no matter how minor or requested it was) will be complained about by at least one forum-goer. *** Pre-Patch teasers that don't interest a particular group of forumgoers will usually result in at least two pages of bitching about them, followed by two pages of people bitching about people bitching (chocobo racing related teasers usually meet with this type of treatment on endgame forums). ** Less than a day has gone by, and people are ''already'' up in arms over the announcement of the Square Enix Security Token, which is to be used to keep accounts from being hacked by RealMoneyTrade groups. The complaint? ''It costs money.'' While it's understandable to be worried about the [[CrackIsCheaper SE Tax]], the security token is a ''physical object'', and would obviously cost money to make and ship. ''{{World of Warcraft}}'' has such a token, as well, and it isn't free, either. * ''FinalFantasyXII'', which replaced the traditional turn-based random encounters with a seamless world map of visible enemies and an innovative AI-controlled party system and was immediately accused of being untrue to the spirit of the franchise. And this was after multiple reviews and fans complained upon FFX's release that using a turn-based system on a next-gen console was too dated. ** And there is the story: FFX was criticized for its linear plot, the over-abundance of cutscenes, the cheesy love story, the fact that the reveal was too obvious, the classical "evil cult" syndrome... so they made a game with a [[ThirtyGambitPileup very complex set of opposing factions]]; lots of sidequests; made sure that most information would come from the {{NPC}}s and not from long expositions; the existence of [[TheManBehindTheMan Venat]] and [[DefectorFromDecadence its motivations]] came very late; the main female character was a widow and her relation with the [[TheIshmael "protagonist"]] never went beyond the [[BackToBackBadasses war buddy level]], while [[BodyguardCrush all the]] [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend other]] [[BattleCouple potential]] [[LoveTriangle "couples"]] were played [[UnresolvedSexualTension subtly]]; the main religion was ruled by decent people who took care of war refugees... FFXII's story was the most criticized FF storyline since the eight installment. *** It is important to consider FFXII's development history. Yasumi Matsuno, creator of OgreBattle, and later FinalFantasyTactics (and in general the IvaliceAlliance universe), who was tasked with directing duties, [[CreatorBreakdown broke down somewhere along the process]] amidst much ExecutiveMeddling (Basch was intended to be the main character) and personal illness and left production. This resulted in criticisms about [[XenSyndrome a sudden drop in quality during the final third of the game]]. * ''FinalFantasyXIII'' hasn't even been released in the U.S. yet, and the fans are already in an uproar. After a news report in the Japanese-Culture website, Sancaku Complex, mentioned ''FinalFantasyXIII'' is "as linear as a piece of string", and showed a long strip that is your map for the first six hours, one reader posted

this little number in the comments section: -->"Players enter dungeon. Too convoluted. Game is s** t. Players enter dungeon. Too simple. Game is s** t. Players get to in put in commands over and over for the party. Game is redundant. Players get to put in commands over and over for the party leader, and then change each member's role in battle. Game is overly simplified. Players grind to get more skills. Game is tedious. Players progress through the game without a hitch. Game is too easy. Players get complex equipment system. Game is confusing. Players get simple equipment system. Game is dumbed-down. Players get simple, straightforward story. Game is linear. Players get branching story. Game is lolWTF. Players assume the role of an effeminate character. Game is g* y. Players assume the role of a masculine character. Game is for f**** ts. Players get a dramatic story. Game is emo. Players get a non-dramatic one. Game is as cold as rock. Players get lots of missions and sidequests and minigames. Game takes a lot of work. Players get few mission and sidequests and mini-games. Game needs much more. Players get fanfare music played after every battle for ten straight installments. Game gets rage. Players get new fanfare music. Game gets more rage." * While we're at it, let's look at ''FinalFantasy'' and its history, from ''VII'' to ''XII''. Square released ''FFVIII'', and people too accustomed to Materia hated the Junctions. Then ''[[FinalFantasyIX FFIX]]'' returned to the preset Jobs, and people bitched ''again''. Later, ''FFX'' used the infamous Sphere Grid, and it was "too hard to understand". Then ''X-2'' was released, and fans... vomited at its girly look and "not having anything better to do at end-game than to max job levels". ** ''FFIX'' was commonly criticised for its throw-back, chibi art style and the cartoony look of the characters... which is, in true UnpleasableFanbase style, in stark contrast to the complaints about VIII moving toward a more realistic design ethic that abandoned the light-hearted and cartoonish style of the earlier games. *** Never mind the fact that FFIX was ''[[CompletelyMissingThePoint SUPPOSED]]'' to be like the earlier games. As (I think) Sakaguchi said it: "FFIX is a celebration of all things ''FinalFantasy''". *** It's happening ''again'' with ''FinalFantasyGaiden'', which is using a super-deformed art style again, to complaints about how terrible and cartoonish the graphics are and how it should be a highdefinition PSP title instead. This from the ''same'' group that complains about how graphics are becoming more important than gameplay and how modern gaming only cares about "style over substance". * Don't forget the original ''VI'' die-hards. Any game from that point on, when the series had the gall to become [[ItsPopularNowItSucks popular]], is immediately declared to be utter filth that any True Fan should decry as blasphemy upon the glorious 2D age. * And how about the GBA remakes, which were by the way begged for, for years upon end, so the unwashed masses could see what a "real" ''FinalFantasy'' should play like: "It is humanly undoable without LevelGrinding", "There are too many [[LostForever missables]]" or "Half the characters are useless after getting the InfinityPlusOneSword or the LastDiscMagic". ** Plus the storylines! The recent remake of ''FinalFantasyIV'' had

nostalgia gamers aiming slings at it for either changing too much or not enough. And yet if Square completely rewrote the story, you can bet they'd be the first in line to complain about the sullying of the original text to pander to casual gamers. (Despite how the SNES Script really wasn't what one would call a "complex script") * ''FinalFantasy'' storylines are always criticized either for being too {{Wangst}}y and serious, or too silly and light-hearted. ''FinalFantasyX'' is a textbook case - the original was criticized for being too dark and miserable, the sequel for being too upbeat and perky. ** The ''[[FinalFantasyTactics Tactics]]'' series has the same problem - either complaints of too much politics and not enough fantasy, or too little politics and too much fantasy. *** In fact, most fans that started with ''FinalFantasyTactics'' disregard ''Advance'' and ''A2'', branding them as "too childish" for the storyline compared to the original ''Tactics''. *** Which is funny because those same people will turn around and call another JRPG (that's not made by SquareEnix) the best game ever, despite it having the exact same story conventions that they were complaining about existing in ''FinalFantasy'' games, and yet another game that has everything they were complaining about has the better story. * [[http://kotaku.com/5026918/this-guy-needs-a-heaping-helping-of-geta-grip Final Fantasy XIII will be multi-platform?!]] ''Multi-platform games can only suck!'' I paid $400 on a PS3 for ''nothing!'' Never mind the fact that I own the only Blu-ray player worth having, and I still get to play the game--''someone besides the tiny majority can play the game now!'' Is nothing sacred!? And God help you if you tell them [[DidNotDoTheResearch that every FF from the first to eight plus FFXI is multi-platform now...]] This has earned Square many accusations of "hating" Sony, despite the fact that they are one of few dedicated third-parties supporting the PSP as much or possibly even more than the DS. ** They also ignore that the PS3 version of the game is the superior version when it comes to graphics and sound. ** See also ''DevilMayCry 4'' for this last complaint, in which Capcom had to publicly dismiss a petition put together by PS3 fanboys demanding that they cancel the 360 release. ** Every time that something, anything, is announced or revealed about FF13, someone out there will be whining and bitching. ** Relatedly, the idea that ''FinalFantasy'' is a Sony series. There are fans who complain about any ''FinalFantasy'' that isn't on a Sony system while happily ignoring Square and Nintendo's relationship from 1987 to 1994. The series has moved in stages of sorts with Square moving to where the audience is. For the first six games, the audience was with Nintendo, from VII to XII, the audience (and technology) was with Sony and from XIII on, the audience is multi-platform. ** What might tick off the fanboys even more is the US commerical, which can make the game be construed as an Xbox 360 exclusive title, due to the ''Final Fantasy XIII'' spedial edition 360 and the Xbox logo at the end, logo normally reserved for 360 exclusive titles. * Even the art style has an unpleasable fanbase! Between

''FinalFantasyVI'' and ''FinalFantasyVII'', the lead artist switched from YoshitakaAmano to Tetsuya Nomura. They have two distinctly different art styles and Nomura's has become synonymous with the series entirely because of the popularity of ''FinalFantasyVII'', which quickly riled the 2D nostalgia crowd. Furthermore, even though Nomura [[MisBlamed actually hasn't been the sole artist]] and has been a designer as early as ''FinalFantasyV'', his art is frequently accused of being filled with RummageSaleRejects from the BlueBishonenGhetto. Meanwhile, Amano was known for...drawing willowy, long haired, effeminate men in RummageSaleRejects. With blue lipstick. Many fans criticized Kuja for being typical of Square Enix's "new" approach, when in fact that character was designed by Amano and looks very typical of the kinds of characters he draws. ''FinalFantasyXII'' took identical flak for "Nomura's" horrible designs when again, the art was handled by long-time Tactics series and ''VagrantStory'' artist Akihiko Yoshida. Clearly, one can tell that they DidNotDoTheResearch. ** Just look at the artwork for ''[=~Dissidia: Final Fantasy~=]'', which had characters designed by both Amano and Nomura and an art style that was a mix between the two artists. That is to say, Nomura did the artwork for ''Dissidia'' in the style of Amano. The only difference was a lack of zippers and an excess of earrings and lipstick. Compare [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/d/de/AmanoKuja .jpg Amano's concept of Kuja]] to [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/6/68/Dissidia_ Kuja.png Nomura's]]. Nomura actually made him ''more'' masculine. ** Many people also only seem to think of Nomura's trends when Amano indeed has his own trends outside of Kuja...Line up all the heroes drawn by Amano. The NostalgiaFilter excuses them all. Just take one look at Nomura's designs for ''Dissidia'' and the in-game sprites for Bartz...You see that he has brown hair, right? Well look at Amano's art of Bartz...in which he looks like Cecil with a haircut. * The ''DragonQuest'' fanbase teeters on this from time to time. They create a fan-site (the now dead [=SlimeKnights=]) for DQ games in the US, they release the niche ''Rocket Slime'' and ''DragonQuestMonsters: Joker'' titles in the US, and have even recently trademarked names that could only be the "missing" Dragon Quest IV, V, and VI DS games... and yet, they're still considered "The enemy" by the fanbase. ** There are some old wounds amongst ''DragonQuest'' fans. There's some bitterness over the translations of ''DragonQuestMonsters: Caravan Hearts'' and ''DragonQuestV'' PS2 being lost in the shuffle during the merger, as well as ''DragonQuestIV DS'' coming out with a weak localization after having been released for several years in Japan ''with an English script as an option''. The North American localization also featured the inexplicable removal of the Party Talk feature, and a truly botched attempt at the AccentAdaptation that had actually been done ''well'' in ''DragonQuestVIII''. However, the response to these slights by some parties is truly disproportionate compared to everything they've done ''right''. ** ''DragonQuest'' fans do have a lot to be bitter about over the number of games that still get [[NoExportForYou left in Japan]], as

well as the incredibly lengthy waits for the games that do come over when compared to other Squeenix franchises that have a speedier turnaround. Of any of the groups in this section, they at least have years of actual ill treatment to nurture their bitterness on. *** Consider also that as of February 4, 2010, over seven months after its Japanese release, the only news we've had of an English version of Dragon Quest IX has been an interview from July 2009 stating that we wouldn't be getting it before April 2010 if we even got it at all. That's right, a month after the game came out they still hadn't decided if they were even going to give it an international release at all. Meanwhile ''FinalFantasyXIII'' was given an English release date several months before it was even released in Japan. Oh yeah, we're bitter all right. **** There's finally a North American release date for IX, but SE has apparently decided that DQ isn't worth investing any money in outside of Japan, as it's being published by Nintendo. ***** Actually, it turns out that the opposite is ture: SE has struck a publishing deal with the big N to bring DQ to the fore-front of western-gaming conciousness with the release of IX. To wit, airing commercials staring ''Seth Green'', running an eleven page spread focusing soley on DQIX in the July issue of Nintendo Power, and setting up out-door advertising in large cities. Oh yes, the new era of Dragon Quest is here at last friends. ** And let's not forget the complaining over ''DragonQuestVIII''. "It violates the spirit of ''DragonQuest'' games by allowing you to customize characters!" (We'll disregard the class systems allowing you to do the same in the past, okay?), "They hate America, Europe, and Australia and gave Japan a better version!" (Despite that they actually ''had'' no voice acting and the soundtrack was fully orchestrated in the localization), "It's not even ''DragonQuest'' anymore! It's like ''FinalFantasy''!" (Despite that the extent of the similarities it has with most ''FinalFantasy'' games are defining genre characteristics), "TheComputerIsACheatingBastard" (Forget that they ''always'' did that), "The game has too many difficulty spikes and requires LevelGrinding!" (Once again, ignore that is a staple of the series), and most annoyingly, "I don't have a choice in my party! I only have four characters!" (Which, once again, is something that appears to be disregarded in other games doing the ''exact same thing'', and not even allowing flexible character-roles like making Hero or Yangus heal the party while Jessica and Angelo WhipItGood and fire arrows at the enemy) * As time goes by, ''KingdomHearts'' is starting to reveal itself to have an unpleasable fanbase. The first one was the best! The second one was the best! ''One'' was so mindbowingly hard that its impossible to finish! ''Two'' was nothing but button mashing, you could close your eyes and beat the hardest boss! The games are too cute and fluffy! They made the second game too edgy! The card system in ''Chains of Memories'' sucked! They {{Nerf}}ed the magic system! The intro in two was stupid! They should have made Roxas the main character! The Nobodies should have had more of a backstory! What the hell is with the Nobodies, make them go away! More Disney! Less Disney! On and on and on. Oh, and if you think we forgot something,

just check the [[MetaConcepts top of the page]]. ** Also of note is that before September 19, 2008, the people were pissed that [[NoExportForYou Square was keeping]] ''[[UpdatedRerelease KH2 Final Mix + ]]'' [[NoExportForYou to Japan]]. After that one date, a number of them are now angry that ''[[EnhancedRemake Re:Chain of Memories]]'' will be released in America as a standalone title or that they spent their money on an import or that Square is too slow or yadda yadda yadda. *** Although honestly, any anger at Square-Enix for their NoExportForYou shenanigans is justified... ** Ah yes, and regarding the ''FinalFantasy'' characters...Nomura has stated before that he would ''not'' include any characters he did not design, which is why Setzer showed up but not Terra from ''FinalFantasyVI''. (Because, you know, Nomura originally ''designed'' Setzer but people ''still'' don't seem to realize this) Meanwhile fans are saying that they should have other characters like [[FinalFantasyIV Rydia]], [[FinalFantasyII Emperor Mateus]] or [[FinalFantasyIX Beatrix]]; when you just ''know'' that if Nomura included them (for some unknown reason), the same people would complain about how Nomura "ruined" them by including them in the first place, or how they look "out of place". ** And that's not even getting into FanDumb over the main characters. ''Every'' main character, with the sole exception[[strike:s of Terra and]] just Aqua now, due to many complaints that Terra is a "recycled Zack design," has developed a {{Hatedom}}. Any attention, or lack of for that matter, given to a character will cause a large uproar with fandom. * Of course despite the very vocal members of the fanbase, ''FinalFantasy'' has not lost an inch of popularity; people continue buying games in the millions of copies as if none of this has ever happened. In fact, it's often theorized that the majority of the fanbase, if the sales are any indication, are fine with the state of the franchise - they just feel no need to [[SilentMajority scream about it on the internet.]] ** Said "Silent Majority" will also immediately start screaming the moment sometime happens that they ARE pissed off at. The Final Fantasy Series likely has the most unpleasant fanbase of any Video Game Franchise EVER, bare none, if only for the Sheer Variety of Unpleasantness available to you. * ''ChronoTrigger'' and its ContestedSequel ''ChronoCross'' have a fandom that comes to blows quite easily. In one corner are the fans of ''ChronoTrigger'' that argue whether ''Cross'' was really a sequel at all, for reasons that are too numerous to discuss on this page but usually boil down to being completely different in mechanics and tone from ''Trigger'' and the SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome of pretty much everyone in ''Trigger''. In the other corner are the ''Cross'' fans who point out its positive critical reception, its good sales, and what they felt to be a deeper and more satisfying storyline with an epic GainaxEnding. The easiest way to find examples of this is to head over to the well-meaning, and perhaps most active fansite, [[http://www.chronocompendium.com/ Chrono Compendium]] and say you like ''Chrono Trigger'' better, which you then will receive a dressing

down from several posters for not appreciating the genius of ''Cross'', followed by them being dressed down by several other posters for not appreciating the genius of ''Trigger'', followed by a potential FlameWar. Needless to say, both games are treated as classics as they both have received near perfect to perfect scores. ** It is never outright proven that the SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome effected everyone that mattered, which only makes things worse. *** Whether that trope is actually canon or not can start some pretty nasty flame wars by itself, even among people who ''liked'' ''ChronoCross''. ** There's also flame wars about the role of Masato Kato in the franchise. ''ChronoTrigger'' was a collaboration of four people Kato, AkiraToriyama, Hironobu Sakaguchi, and Yuji Horii. The initial scenario of ''Trigger'' was Horii's, with input from Sakaguchi, and then scripted by Kato. ''ChronoCross'' only included Kato (with Sakaguchi as executive producer). Suggesting that the dissonance of the two games could be related to this will get you flamed to hell and back in some parts. *** Some say he was the only good writer of the whole game, who deserved to write up ''ChronoCross'', while others would go on to compare Cross to a professionally written FanFic. *** It's also unclear what role Horie even had. While he did write an entire draft for the scenario, Sakaguchi apparently scrapped most of it. There are various extremely early screenshots in existence that show a rather different setting, that looks like it would've been more strictly fantasy-themed and less sci-fantasy than the final product. *** It's not even clear who came up with what for different parts of the story. The only thing known for certain is that Kato wrote the entirety of the Zeal plotline - which many consider the best in the game. ** And let's not even go into the DS remake that actually improved the horrible, horrible lag times the PSX remake had, vastly improved the dialogue so that different time periods not only "sounded" different ''and'' didn't feel like a teenager came up with it, and that finally had Item, Tech, and other names for things make a lot more sense than the original. Yet after years of people asking for this port, all anyone wanted to do was complain about it and wish it was still using the old Woolsey script they claimed they hated for all these years. *** And that's not all. To illustrate the utter hypocrisy, mentioning the inconsistencies in Woolsey's script (Namely Frog speaking in YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe when ''absolutely nobody'' in the same time period spoke that way, especially when even ''he'' didn't when he was human) in 2007 would have gotten people mentioning that either everyone should have spoken with YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe or that he shouldn't. Nowadays, the people claiming they disliked the Woolsey script are suddenly nowhere to be found, and even pointing out the inconsistencies the Super Nintendo script had will earn you a lecture on how sometimes they ''have'' to change it around and that it was better when they did. Ironically, this ''only'' happened there...had this not been protected by the NostalgiaFilter or had Woolsey even been a good writer, everyone would have cried "AdaptationDecay! '''ADAPTATIONDECAY!!!'''" for doing the same thing he did.

**** A fan pointed it out somewhere on a forum complaining about this issue... ----> "How ''DARE'' they make it more like the original script?! BRB Complaining at another adaptation for deviating from the script!" *** The connection to ''ChronoCross''... ever since ''before it was even announced'' as a remake, people wanted a solid connection. Then comes the whole optional scene with an optional boss...and now it has either [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks ruined the game]] or wasn't good enough, with some fans saying it shouldn't have even been included altogether. Wall Banger points to poor Square, knowing simply porting it to the DS would have gotten people complaining "WHY NOT PUT IT ON THE VIRTUAL CONSOLE! '''''EXTORTION!!'''''". And of course, the DS remake has had people cry "extortion - IT SHOULD BE ON THE VIRTUAL CONSOLE!", despite the fact that it clearly ''was not'' just a mere port. ** While the fanbase just about unilaterally agrees on the need for a sequel, one can only imagine the kind of outcry that would rise up were such a game to actually materialize. Making the game more similar to ''Trigger'' would inevitably outrage the half of the fanbase that liked ''Cross'', and vice versa, and unless SquareEnix somehow manages to reunite ALL of the developers from one or both of those games (which would be virtually impossible) SOMEONE will cry foul that Hironobu Sakaguchi[=/=]Yuji Horii[=/=]Masato Kato[=/=]Hiromichi Tanaka[=/=]Yasuyuki Honne[=/=]somebody else isn't involved with the project. People think that Square Enix is being stingy by holding out on a sequel, but maybe they're just being wise. ** Never mention the ''FanFic/CrimsonEchoes'' project. Ever. Don't even question whether or not SquareEnix had legitimate grounds to shut it down, even if they had the right to do it anyway. The replies to the second comment in [[http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/02/04/aucourt-lets-isp-hook-over-illegal-downloads this article]] will show you why. * So, after a year of solid bitching that ''[[FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears Final Fantasy IV: The After Years]]'' was being unfairly condemned to [[NoExportForYou never leave Japan]], you'd think the fans would be ''grateful'' that the ESRB just rated it for the US, meaning we can actually play it. You must not have read this page. Now that we can actually play it, the fans are complaining that it's a pile of crap and should never have been released at all. ** Most of that is due to the game [[ConsoleWars only being rated for the Wii]], even though Retraux games tend to sell best on WiiWare, considering how many has been announced so far. ** The release has been met with accusations of price-gouging and franchise-milking. There have also been complaints about the games presentation, completely ignoring the fact that the game was made ''for cell phones''. * This is the only fanbase where people ask for the remake of [[FinalFantasyVII a game]] and complain about it being milked at the same exact time. ** Only if you don't count Nintendo fans as a fanbase. See above. ** Case in point - before the announcement of ''FinalFantasyGaiden: {{The Four Warriors of Light}}'', there was much speculation and

complaining that it was going to be another remake. When the game was finally announced as a new, original title, there were complaints that it ''wasn't'' a port or remake of ''FinalFantasyV'' or ''FinalFantasyVI''. * Ask any ''FinalFantasy'' fan, and they'll most likely tell you that ''FinalFantasyVIII'' is either the best in the series, or the absolute worst. ''No exceptions''. * ''FinalFantasyXII'' is [[strike:arguably the greatest rpg ever]] a pretty good RPG, but people hate it because it's not like the other games, even though NONE OF THEM ARE LIKE ANY OF THE OTHERS! * ''StarOcean''. The second version, for many, the first (And perhaps only) Star Ocean game they ever played was remade on the PSP, and given a new translation and significantly improved the voice acting. Immediately cries of how TheyChangedItNowItSucks show up for adding "Nonsensical characters" and other such "nonsense" to "ruin the game". To demonstrate how powerful the NostalgiaFilter and the unpleasable fanbase are, fans actually liked the PlayStation version ''better'' despite the fact that the Voice acting was a laughable rush job (Characters saying "I'm e-I'm erasing you!", saying "Craude" instead of "Claude", and some of Rena's spells ''not even being recorded in English'' leading to a massive inconsistency) as was the translation. Another funny is how Square-Enix and TriAce actually didn't change that much of the game outside of graphics, voice acting and translation...if anything it was actually an ''enhanced port'' rather than an actual remake; The first game (First Departure) meanwhile had ''more'' changes made not only to the graphics, translation, and voice acting but the storyline itself. (E.g. including a way to recruit Erys, therefore adding two characters with just Welch, adding [=PAs=] for T'Nique, and removing Ashlay's injured arm altogether) [[/folder]] [[folder:Valve]] * The ''TeamFortress2'' fanbase is the closest one can get to NMA in terms of bitching about everything. The [[http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80 official forum]] is constantly besieged by players deciding they know better than Valve how the game should be designed and what each class should receive as new weapons (which aren't supposed to be upgrades, just alternatives, anyway). This also includes suggesting new classes. ** Dear ''God'', the Scout update. The instant the update came out the fandom was split into people who that the Sandman was overpowered and the people who thought the Sandman was an excellent, well-balanced weapon. The argument eventually fell overwhelmingly to the former side, and Valve released an update that {{nerf}}ed the Sandman, which split the fandom ''three'' ways - those who think the new Sandman is perfect, those who think the new Sandman is stupid and should be scrapped entirely, and those who think the game has been RuinedFOREVER by removing such a perfect weapon. *** Don't forget the pyro: since ''TeamFortress'' Classic it was the cherry-tapper class: pre-pyro update you almost never saw one on a

server. Post update... well. Now [[FanHater you're a noob for playing one.]] ** With each new (free) update, truckloads of topics about how much the update sucks get posted every day for weeks, and for each complaint topic, there's 2 topics telling everyone to stop complaining. ** The system about how new weapons are doled out was based on players getting X amount of Achievements for Y item. This resulted in people creating servers so they could basically LevelGrind for the items. As of the [=Spy/Sniper=] update, the new items are more or less random. Combined with [[http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2535 Valve being maddeningly vague]], and fans complained that they wanted to ''earn'' their new stuff. ** [[http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3547/1237669770019.png This]] image perfectly sums up the level of unpleasability the [=TF2=] fanbase has achieved.[[spoiler:[[DontExplainTheJoke Note the contradictions in most of the "Improvements".]]]] ** Oh ''dear Tzeentch'', the Cheater's Lament. After Valve decided to act on the idling system after three months of not saying anything, they decided to remove all illegally-obtained items from player's backpacks. Those that took the "moral high ground" received a new hat for all the classes, a glowing halo called the Cheater's Lament. The fallout from this? There are Medics who don't heal anyone with a Halo, there are Medics who don't heal anyone ''without'' a Halo; servers will ban you if you have a Halo or others will hand out bans for ''not'' having one. Plus, the script for the account checker was so buggy that it would remove entire inventories at once. Thankfully, Valve did patch that. Steam Forums is the best place to see the mayhem. ** Initially, [[CompanionCube the Sandvich]] was near-universally considered a fun idea, but not a viable alternative to the shotgun. Many cried for a buff, and Valve listened. Now the situation is similar to that of the Sandman: one camp thinks it's perfect, one thinks it's still underpowered and the third thinks it's ''overpowered''. ** And now the Golden Wrench as a promo tool for the Engineer update caused similar complaints. With things like the system aparantly not being as random as first thought. Mass Crafting (Many crafting away there hats just for one golden wrench). And the fact that only 100 of them were given out. ** The last day of the Sniper/Spy update. Allow me to give you some backstory: on April 1st, Valve joked that they would give the Sniper a jar of pee as a weapon, AKA Jarate. The forums thought this was really amusing. About a month later, the Sniper update was announced. Then it was a duel update with the Spy. During the last few hours before the final Sniper weapon announcement, a fan found something in the game files that said something about a boomerang. Obviously, everyone assumed this was for the Sniper because Sniper = Australian. Imagine the ANGER AND RAGE they felt when the last weapon [[ChekhovsGun WAS JARATE.]] The fanbase claimed that they would stop playing the game because the game was now too inmature. [[FridgeLogic May I remind you that this is a game where you have the option to explode into cogs,

rubbers ducks and hamburgers?]] * ''Left4Dead'' has an unpleasable fanbase as well. First, people wanted more maps/campaigns, new modes, more maps for VS mode, and new guns. When a recent update gave survival mode (plus a new map just for that mode), people then complained Valve was lazy by using the crescendo events in each level for survival mode. Then they also complained how some of the new maps in VS mode have invisible walls on rooftops, [[{{Nerf}} preventing Hunters from doing great damage from a big pounce]], and people are still whining about no new weapons. The fanbase completely ignores the problems that new guns could create for the entire game. ** Valve recently announced a sequel to ''Left4Dead''. It was announced to have more weapons, a different setting, and a more fleshed out story with new characters. Some people were happy, but most of the fanbase was not pleased. [[http://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2boycott At least 36,000 of 'em, in fact]]. The biggest complaints being that the original Left 4 Dead is not even a year old when the sequel was announced and the price for the new game is (supposedly) $60 instead of a lower price (the fans feel the sequel is more of an expansion pack). Not to mention that they're forgetting the notoriously long time Valve usually takes between sequels, as the people who are still waiting to even so much as hear some news that Half Life 2: Episode 3 is even so much as ''in development'' will tell you. Whether done as a joke to mock the angry fans or to show Valve support, there are also several Steam groups boycotting the boycotters of ''Left4Dead2''. ** Steam group leaders announced that Valve invited them to their headquarters to let them play test the game and addressed all their concerns for it and the original game. The boycott leaders were mostly satisfied. The only problem is that this announcement has split up the boycott group. Now people who still insist they won't buy the sequel are now calling the group leaders soft and easily bribed by Valve. Just recently, the group leaders have announced they are closing down the group, saying they accomplished what they came to do. Now there's even more whining, with people saying the boycott should go on or how the leaders are still sell outs. *** Speaking of which, the new Special Infected, the Charger got their attention too. Interesting to note that the Charger concept seems to be drawn from a forum post started by one user. New ideas and concepts were meshed in by the forum community, until the sequel was announced. There was an inkling of rejoice that said idea got into the game, before a FaceHeelTurn occurred and the one user wanted credit for the idea - this turned into displease over the sequel. The thread now serves as debating ground for Charger lovers and haters. **** The sequel has a slew of new complaints for everyone to sort through. A patch nerfed the Spitter's acid in elevators so that it fades faster. People natrually complained that they can't incap the survivors in a closed space anymore. Left 4 Dead 2 has a slew of new guns, but people still whine how there are no flamethrowers or knives to free yourself from Hunters or Smokers. The new DLC campaign called The Passing will have the Left 4 Dead 1 survivors helping the new survivors, but they are not playable and people whined about that and

how that shot down their dreams of having an 8 vs 8 Versus mode. Versus mode itself is complained about by many people for making the scoring system scrubbed down (most of the points comes from distance travled) compared to Versus in the first game (where most of the points comes from just making it to the end). **** Now the whining is for the updates in general. First, people wanted Realism VS to be a permanent game mode. Valve made it so, but now it's not enough and want other mutations to be part of the main game too. People whined that many of the maps have too many bugs and exploits that ruin the game experience. Valve started to get around to fixing some of them but now that's not enough since ALL maps must be fixed right this instant! [[/folder]] [[folder:Other]] * Many {{MMORPG}}s. ** ''FinalFantasyXI'': See SquareEnix section. ** ''{{City of Heroes}}'': After the release of the standalone ExpansionPack ''{{City of Villains}}'', the developers spent a content update on it, only to have the ''{{City of Heroes}}'' players complain about being neglected. The next content update focused on ''{{City of Heroes}}'', promptly leading the ''{{City of Villains}}'' players to complain about being neglected. Subsequent updates have tried to bring equal focus on both halves of the game, which predictably resulted in both sides complaining that they were being neglected. *** The official forums were recently upgraded, after years of incessant complaining about the matter. Four posts (or twelve, if one is charitable) into the official feedback thread? "The old forums were better, change it back." * ''{{EVE Online}}'' is another serial offender for people complaining about changes. Every patch contains a 'nerf', even the patch touted by the developers as 'the boost patch' (though naturally, one man's boost is another man's nerf). Recently an even more extreme example occurred during the graphical overhaul where all the ships were given updated models, the colour of which for the Gallente races ships was deemed 'offensive' by a significant portion of players and eventually caused enough uproar that the colour was changed shortly after. * ''{{Kingdom of Loathing}}'' has this with its [[SpeedRun speedrunning]] players, who look at the game in terms of 'optimal' content (in other words, things which allow them to play faster) and 'nonoptimal' content (in other words, things which don't allow them to play faster). While not a [[VocalMinority statistically common percentage]] of the game's players, the game's forums are regularly dotted with suggestions to improve the "speed game", mainly by [[DummiedOut streamlining things]]. [[WordOfGod Jick]] has commented at least once that most speedrunners' suggestions are requested in order to justify their time / money spent on speed-running in the first place. ** [[MemeticMutation Last year's Crimbo was the best. This year's sucks.]]

* ''TalesSeries''. "It should be more like ''[[TalesOfDestiny Destiny]]''! There was no point after ''[[TalesOfDestiny Destiny]]''!", "No, I like the flex-range systems better." "''[[TalesOfSymphonia Symphonia]]'' sucked, let's play ''[[TalesOfHearts Hearts]]''." "The Flex-Range ''ruined'' Tales of! It's not linear motion even though you still have to be on a plane!" and of course, the biggest faction are the fans who want [[NoExportForYou the other games to be released on European and American shelves.]] (Because Europe hasn't seen ''[[TalesOfLegendia Legendia]]'' or ''Abyss'', despite having received the PSP-port of ''{{Tales of Eternia}}) ** And now some fans are saying they won't buy the recently (as of early Feb 2011) announced North American release of Tales of Graces F. Why? Because NamcoBandai isn't releasing the PS3 version of Tales of Vesperia as well. ** Also, now that they're releasing the [[UpdatedRerelease expanded and fixed]] PS3 version, the Wii owners want them to backport the PS3 version while others are complaining about why Namco DOESN'T release the glitched Wii version * MonsterHunter is also in danger of this. A spinoff game of it with cute graphics and chibi monsters was announced, ticked off lots of fans, and they flamed EVERY FREAKING trailers of that game on Youtube. They complained that they should not waste time on this and work on Monster Hunter Freedom 3 instead. * Possibly the ultimate UnpleasableFanbase might be the exceedingly loud and vocal No Mutants Allowed forum inhabitants. These fans have become infamous throughout the game industry not only for their immense whininess, but for their tendency to whine about ''every little thing.'' It has been said that "[[http://www.nmafallout.com/content.php?page=features&id=14 All of the normal people are no longer a part of the 'Fallout Community,' they're just fans of the games. The people who are a part of the 'Fallout Community' have been refined and distilled over time into glittering gems of hatred]]." It's gotten to the point where, somehow, someone who enjoys the original ''{{Fallout}}'' games is instantly branded as one of these just by how loud the NMA forumgoers are. (In the interest of fairness, the ''{{Fallout}}'' series has had a [[ScrewedByTheNetwork very rough history]], [[http://www.nmafallout.com/article.php?id=34542 which can be better explained here]].) ** There is also the "[[http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/04/20 And the sound is like a hundred thousand bats shrieking as they swirl around a jutting spire of obsidian]]" comment by Jerry "Tycho" Holkins of ''PennyArcade'', concerning the opening of the ''{{Fallout 3}}'' forums. ** Speaking of F3, the Let's Play by Spoiler Warning consists of mostly complaining, even though they mentioned Fallout 2 was also very flawed. So much so, in fact, that [[http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=8509 it made it into their drinking game]]. And this is a game they say they essentially ''like''. ** The worst part is that NMA kept such a constant volume of carping

that Bethesda could simply dismiss any valid critiques. Some of that feedback may have made a better game. But I guess they got what ''they'' wanted; something else to bitch about, at the expense of fans who wanted an enjoyable continuation of the franchise. * While we're on Bethesda, there is literally no feature revealed about {{Skyrim}} that has not had half the forums screaming RuinedFOREVER because it does not cater to the 90s gaming statistician buddy club. Trying to make leveling more organic by removing the class system in favor of self-balancing skill pacing that fulfills the same function? Dumbing down for console retards, RuinedFOREVER! Replacing the attributes dependent on that system with skill-based perks? It's not a REAL TheElderScrolls game anymore, RuinedFOREVER! Bethesda did not actively screw over consoles? They are abandoning and betraying their True PC Fans, RuinedFOREVER! Essentially, the only Fandom on the BGSF is the FanDumb. Which tends to sound more like a HateDumb at the end of the day. * Really, there's ''nothing'' in ''GuildWars'' that hasn't triggered this. Every new campaign, heroes, [=PvE=] skills, skills being overpowered, skills getting nerfed ''for'' being overpowered, Shadow Form (I don't even want to think what'll happen if they nerf it, since it's the go-to farming build at the moment), etc. * Much of the ''MortalKombat'' fandom is like this. An example: when Khameleon (the female, as opposed to the male Chameleon) wasn't a playable character in the X-Box and [=PlayStation=] 2 versions of ''Armageddon'', fan demand eventually forced Midway to include her in the Wii version. Then ''those same fans'' argued that Khameleon looked and played ugly and generically. Further, when it was revealed no character bios were in ''Armageddon'', fans petitioned to have them made...which about a third of them were, before being cancelled. The ones that ''were'' made, though, were more or less panned by those fans for being terribly written. ** And then there's then there's the ever-present backlash when the series went 3D which of course, doesn't seem to make much sense either since digitized actors is very outdated. * Since ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability... GaiaOnline. To an absurd level. In fact, it seems like some people think hating ''everything'' make you cool. Brilliantly parodied in [[http://gaiaonline.com/forum/gaia-community-discussion/zomg-new-gaiasucks-f-k-new-gaia-grrrgjhghglrhglj/t.33839363/ this thread]], which has become a sort of meme on the forums. Though, some people seem to like emulating the comic... ** As soon as an announcement is released, there are ten threads complaining about its content, its wording, its images... * ''{{Sonic the Hedgehog}}'' fans are no exception to this trope, if anything '''the''' textbook example. There seems to be no way to please them all, despite numerous attempts to do so after the series entered into the 3D era (in fact, each attempt just splintered the fanbase further). Even Sonic's returns to 2-D couldn't please these people. Sonic Rush is an infamous example: it was well-received overall, but to some unfortunately vocal fans, it sucked. Why? Who knows, they all have different reasons. Too hard one minute, too easy to blow through the levels at super speeds the next. Sometimes a

mixture of the two. Don't try to think too hard about it. ** ''{{Sonic the Hedgehog 4}}'' is "a return to speed and a return to 2D" which is based on the complaints of Sonic's nostalgia fans. Sega's plan to appeal to fans with the initial teaser trailer (back when it was known as ''Project Needlemouse'') failed because those fans couldn't recognize ''their most famous Title Screen''. Everything from animations, to ''the size of the rings'' have been complained about. And come the official reveal, the arguments continued to rage on... *** There's a group actually petitioning to boycott Sonic 4 by buying Sonic 1......you figure that one out. ** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgHid5fZsDk This rant]] calls fans out on complaining over ''two seconds'' of gameplay, among other things. Given that the video has mostly positive ratings, the complainers may just be a VocalMinority. ** And now they've changed the voice actors, which they've been requesting since 2005, and they're ''still'' complaining about it. *** Damnit we demand a voice actor that's been dead for the past five years, if that's too hard for Sega then I wish they would stop crushing my childhood memories. * The ''{{Xenosaga}}'' trilogy falls under this. Players complained of "too much story" in the first game, as well as a few other things. Granted, there ''was'' a half-hour cutscene in the first few hours, but still... Cut to Episode II. For the most part, the creators listened to the US players (who had bought the highest percentage) about flaws in Episode I. This one game alone sparked the most controversy, from people complaining that "I can't get the battle system! I want something simpler!" ''despite'' it already being simple and less complicated than say, certain [=MMOs=], to say, the change in the animation style (granted, those who played the games consecutively did have bit of a shock), hell, even the reduced story focused on the "other" main character. The players ''begged'' for the game to be like this. Cut to Episode III, the last due to the previous failure as well as certain issues in Namco. ''Again,'' they listened to the fans, and ''again'' they tried to fix the problems. Cue the weakest battle system, a return to the main character (and more plot, obviously), etc. and people ''still'' complained about this. Again, keep in mind that most of the decisions were made due to loud voice from the US market. * There's a good chance that ''StarControl II'' will never get an official sequel because of the intra-fanbase dissent about what could possibly improve on the predecessor. If one ever does get released, expect reactions similar to the ones the second ''StarWars'' trilogy produced (i.e., the wait will have been too long for the product to meet the fans' expectations). ** Well it DID get an official sequel... we just don't like to talk about. * Most of the SilentHill fandom will readily admit that the first three games are the best in the series. However, there's a portion of the fandom that completely idolizes the original trilogy, [[HateDom and hates any following games with a fiery passion.]] As details emerge about any upcoming Silent Hill game, expect to see a lot of posts how the developers just [[RuinedFOREVER DON'T UNDERSTAND]]

Silent Hill, no matter what those details actually are. ** What is particularly bizarre about ''SilentHill'''s unpleasable fanbase is the allegation that the newer games have become "Americanized." This is baffling on two levels. The first is the fact that quite a few of the most recent developers are not American at all. The second is that ''Silent Hill'' was ''always'' an homage to American horror and was heavily influenced by American horror films, particularly ''JacobsLadder''. Many streets in the town are named after American horror authors and directors such as Stephen King and David Lynch. * Never go on the ''RockBand'' forums and check out the DLC request/discussion section. People get very, very angry when certain songs/bands don't show up. Regardless of genre. Tool fans have been known to be very, very vocal, but many people get over-excited and often assume that the announcement of "something big" is TheBeatles and LedZeppelin ''finally''. It starts with one person saying "is it Beatles and Zeppelin?", and then people begin to think it ''is''. Then they get ticked off when it isn't. ** There's either too much metal or not enough. Then there's the definition of metal, the various types of metal, among other things. ** Don't mention Rock Band Japan to the otakus in the crowd. You'll never hear the end of how it's being neglected for the main stuff. ** The sheer numbers of unpleasable fans for ''RockBand'' seem to grow with each [=DLC=] release. Some gems from 4th quarter of '08 include the lack of key Nirvana songs in their downloadable pack, the offering of songs from ''{{Nickelodeon}}'' TV programs, and the especially bile-tastic response to, * GASP* Country! ** And don't forget the 20 songs they released for free as DLC for buying Rock Band 2. That's right, 20 extra songs for free, and people complained. * ''ResidentEvil''. People complained the series was getting stale, because all of the previous "main" games occurred within the same few weeks with basically the same gameplay. In comes [=RE4=] with realtime graphics, drastically revamped gameplay, and no zombies. People complained that it wasn't a SurvivalHorror game anymore. [=RE5=] seems to be well on its way, what with people complaining it's even farther from the series survival horror roots, and some critics decrying it for not "innovating". ** The run-up to the release of ''Resident Evil: Outbreak'' was like this. Previews accentuated the idea that voice chat should be left out, because it would "ruin the experience". The game comes out, and what does every single person bitch about? "Why isn't there voice chat?" * ''GuiltyGear''. The first was quirky, but generally accepted as bad since the Instant Kill moves could be done without much risk. X got a lot of the inside community interested, but it broke down to how quickly Millia could kill you with her fast rushing moves and high-low games. Then XX came out, which got everyone crazy... until they figured out Eddie's ability to parallel attack easily was the bee's knees. XX has had three revisions - #Reload, Slash and Accent Core, with the [[StopHavingFunGuys fanbase]] divided down the line about all three. As it turns out, some people will argue that Eddie being broken

was a GOOD thing and balance is actually bad. It doesn't make sense to me, either. * ''MetalGear Online.'' "The M14 is overpowered! No, wait, [=SMGs=] are! Survival sucks! Bwaaaa!" ** As long as we're on that series, there's the people who liked Raiden and want to see more of him, and the people who hated even his non-playable appearance in [=MGS4=]. Kojima Productions has announced he's getting his own game. [[InternetBackdraft Reactions were about as expected]]. at E3 that this new Metal Gear game would be released on the XBox 360, much to the displeasure of numerous PS3 fanboys. ** HideoKojima is best known for the ''MetalGear'' series. Some people think he should move on to a new IP. Since the start of MGS, he's released two ''{{Boktai}}'' and ''{{Zone of the Enders}}'' games, completely original [=IPs=], which caused other people to complain he should be working on the next ''MetalGear'' game. * Semi-averted in ''UrbanDead''... which actually ''lost'' a huge chunk of its fanbase when a massively unpopular (at least, for the humans) zombie buff appeared to increase zombie morale (Not really there was a HUGE siege going on, involving almost every major group, and the creator, Kevan, made an update that allowed zombies to block attempts at securing a building with objects. Within a week, the attacks doubled.) Whole groups actually dropped out of the game, and still are - one of the most famous zombie groups just recently disbanded. However... checking most of the group's forums, and you see bitching about zombie accuracy, or bitching about zombie buffs more than human buffs. * The video game industry in general is frequently criticized for its portrayal of women; see {{Stripperiffic}} and its subtropes, MostCommonSuperpower, etc. Along comes ''[[MirrorsEdge Mirror's Edge]]'' with its protagonist Faith, who has a slim, athletic build suitable for her job, and clothing and appearance even more so. Shortly before the game's release, [[FanBoy someone]] [[http://kotaku.com/5062933/faith-from-mirrors-edge-fan+ designed-forasian-tastes took a piece of publicity art and edited it]] so she looked younger, and-of course-gave her bigger boobs with the nipples poking through her top, to wide acclaim. Among the cheers was the claim that the previous version was ugly and "looked like Lucy Liu". ** Similarly, the eponymous ''FatPrincess'' was subject to an angry tirade from a feminist blogger about making fun of fat people ([[CowboyBebopAtHisComputer Which wasn't exactly the case]]). So not only do people complain about unrealistically skinny girls in games, but they complain when heavier women are both featured ''and'' portrayed as desirable. * Surprised that the ''GrandTheftAuto'' fanbase hasn't been mentioned yet. Go to GTAForums, and you'll find a fanbase that is not only unpleasable, but almost [[BrokenBase broken]]. One side feels that Rockstar shouldn't have abandoned the canon established in [[GrandTheftAutoIII GTA III]]; the other argues that the GTA III canon was already wrapped up, and that it was a smart move to reboot the franchise with [[GrandTheftAutoIV GTA IV]]. One side argues that the DarkerAndEdgier tone of GTA IV hurt it, and that it should go back to the lighter feel of past games; the other thinks that it did the game

wonders. One side wants more character customization, sometimes to the point of being able to create your own character; the other feels that customization should be left alone. And nearly everybody complains that, multiplayer aside, GTA IV has less replay value than past games. The argument even goes beyond reactions to official announcements from Rockstar - on the "GTA Next" board, where the as-yet-unannounced next full-length entry in the series is discussed, people argue over where the next game should be set (should it follow the pattern of Liberty City, then Vice City, then San Andreas? Should it be in London? Detroit? Tokyo? Serbia?), what features it should have, and everything else you can think of. Talk about an unpleasable fanbase. * Find any extended gameplay video for any highly- or moderatelyanticipated upcoming game on a website like Joystiq, Kotaku, or Gametrailers. Watch the video, then check the comments. If the person playing did well, then the game looks too easy. If they did poorly, [[DoubleStandard then they're a terrible player]]. Either way, the people commenting are judging gameplay of something they won't get their hands on for months or more. * NipponIchi has had problems with this recently. Listening to those clamoring for faster releases, they've attempted to cut down on the translation time, resulting in scattered spelling errors and some very unfortunate {{Game Breaking Bug}}s. The recent announcement that ''PhantomBrave'''s UpdatedRerelease will only have an English voice track instead of including both tracks has drawn plenty of scorn and accusations of them cutting corners and 'selling out'. * Ubisoft has earned plenty of gamer ire for releasing shovelware on the DS and Wii. This makes everything they do screwed. The early previews for ''SplinterCell Conviction'' had Sam, on the run, looking like a hobo. People complained. A recent trailer has shown him cleanshaven, with shorter hair. People complained they wanted him looking like a hobo. * LucasArts became rather reviled in recent years for abandoning all of their old, beloved adventure game [=IPs=], letting them go out of print, canceling all developed projects, and preventing others from doing anything with them. All the while, gamers complained about how they were now doing nothing but Star Wars games. So, fast forward to July 2009, when they finally decide to stop jerking around and actually do ''exactly'' what the fans begged for - make new games based on the old [=IPs=], remake one of them, plan for more, and announce plans to finally re-release their old, out of print titles on Steam. If you think the fans were happy, you have not read this page. No, what was the new complaint? "How dare they! They should be making new ''StarWars'' games!" This has continued into every single non''StarWars'' announcement since. * Similar to ''{{Diablo}} 3'', when it was announced that ''SeriousSam III'' was going to be more gritty, fans opinions separated to the point that their vision about which point of SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty should ''SeriousSam III'' settle. * ''BackyardSports'' has gradually lost its fandom by making bad moves, such as discontinuing online play and removing beloved characters. * The ''Warriors'' fanbase in general. One example is when

''DynastyWarriors 6'' came out, many complained about several characters having identical movesets/weapons, and for a good reason. Then comes the PS2 version of the same game which gave several characters new, unique movesets... and people complained that Ma Chao went from a spear user to a {{BFS}} user. As for ''SamuraiWarriors'', when ''SamuraiWarriors 3'' was announced as a Wii exclusive, people started complaining for no apparent reason that is was on the Wii ''before screenshots of the game even came out''. * The LegoCrossoverGames have this going sometimes, when one of the games was released, some people didn't like it because "The style is getting repetitive, we need something new", when Lego Indiana Jones 2 was released, establishing the problems (such as the Co-Op) and doing something new... Some reviewers bashed it, saying they wanted it to go back to the old system, for kind of an example, go to IGN. * The ''MegaMan'' series has this in spades, people complained about the Charge Shot and Slide in the games, claiming that they made the games "Too Easy", but when they weren't put in ''9'', people complained that they didn't have the charge shot, later these features were applied to Protoman, didn't stop the fandom from complaining. There was also a lot of people complaining that the game's best days were the 8-Bit ones, but when it was announced ''9'' was in {{Retraux}}, others started complaining that they weren't using Next Generation graphics. And then there's the whole "Ending" thing, most of the games have not ended and probably won't for a while, and when they do, you can expect to see people complain. * ''{{Elemental War of Magic}}'' already has some elements of this in the beta discussions, mainly along the lines of "too simple" vs. "Too complex". There were several forum threads, for example, of whether the game should have separate magic damage types (Fire, Lightning, Ice, etc.) with some arguments about the entire game being dumbed down if these types weren't included. Fortunately this is a more extreme example. * ''[[AceAttorney Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attorney Investigations]]'' had recieved some flack for either being [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks too similar to Phoenix Wright's games]] or [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks not being the same at all.]] Then you have the fans who whine how there should have been a playable trial in the game. Bonus points if they suggest to be able to play as Edgeworth going against Phoenix in court. * [[TheLordOfTheRingsOnline LOTRO]] has had this with every update. Originally, they released a 24-man raid. But the relatively small community meant that getting 24 people together was extremely difficult, so they released a 12-man raid. That was too easy, dumbing down the game. Except for all the people who could never get into the 12-man raid because it took several hours to complete. So, in the expansion, they broke the next raid up into several six-man instances with a one-boss raid at the end. This made things too easy. Only some of the six-mans were too hard, and the gear from raids was too powerful and we needed to go back to the pre-expansion days, when "raid" gear was only slightly better than crafted gear. So they took out the % damage boosts and made it easier to get raid gear - which made the raid gear "pointless" unless you were raiding, as it was used

to "gate" the bosses (without sufficient raid gear, you spent most of your time cowering, unable to fight). Oh, and it made getting raid gear a grind. Oh, and the one-boss raids are stupid. So they released a three-boss raid, which was too easy. Or too hard, depending on which class forum you read. Also, Turbine never listens to the fanbase, so they started a weekly "Tell the Devs" thread, which is now the source of flames because ZOMG nothing we say is ever immediately implemented!!!! There's a million others (tank classes are useless/why are they forcing us to use tanks now?, crafting is useless/why did they make crafting so overpowered?, we need more things to do outside of combat/god fishing is the most boring thing ever). And don't even mention the lore debate, Legendary Weapons, goats, or Soliloquy of Spirit. All are flamebait. * There is no game "fanbase" - ''none whatsoever'' - that can even be compared to {{Runescape}}'s when it comes to this. Forget what was said about being unable to please everyone: As far as the forum is concerned, this could easily be changed to "''It's not possible to please'' '''''anyone'''''". Ever since they made the bold effort to remove gold-selling by implementing trade limitations and removing free PVP, every single update has incited ire from so many people that it's unknown why the creators have not just said [[CreatorBreakdown "You know what, screw it. You tell us what's good for you guys, and we'll do it, regardless of whether it destroys the company or not."]] by now. Case in point: a new quest that's been a year in the making (the Fairy Tale questline for those in the know) - There was constant hostility on the forums about it all this time...[[SarcasmMode But surely they would appreciate the update when it came out, right?]] ** [[{{Rossmallo}} This Troper]] proudly invites all who read this to go onto the Runescape official forums on their main site, and look at Future and Recent Updates. You will never - NEVER - find a better example of this on the internet. *** [[RedZeppelin This troper]] has played several {{MMORPG}}s where people have bitched like this about updates and is ''fully'' in agreement with you. ** If you want to have some fun, just call Dungeoneering a minigame. There WILL be a FlameWar between those who say it's a minigame and those who say it's a skill. ** The rants forum. One of the most popular forums on the site- 99.9% complaints. It got so bad at one point that they changed it to ten or so stickied threads about specific topics. Guess which one had the most posts in it? [[spoiler: Rant About the New Rants Forum.]] By a long, long, looooong shot. {{Runescape}}, hands down. * This troper loves AceCombat, and is in the fandom enough to tell you that there's been constant criticism ever since AC5 back in 2005. "The wingmen are annoying," "The story's cheesy," and finally, we've gotten to Assault Horizon. This troper, and a good chunk of the fans think it's now a HAWX clone focused on action as opposed to plot, and the fact it's set in RealLife is frustrating, after Namco develops a whole world for Ace Combat. Cue Fanboy Wangst. * ''[[{{Godzilla}} Godzilla: Unleashed]]'' had fans complaining on all sides ever since it was first announced with some complaining that it'll never be as good as ''Save The Earth'' and others growing

increasingly excited over its release. ** People complained over the lack of monsters in the previous game (''Save The Earth''). So, what does Atari/Pipeworks do? Add new monsters and create two original ones (IE: Obsidious and Krystalak). What do the fans do next? Complain that there's STILL not enough monsters, complain that Obsidious and Krystalak are [[ReplacementScrappy poor replacements]] for classic Toho monsters, and then complain that ''their'' favorite monsters were not used. *** Fans complained about Battra not being playable in ''Save The Earth''. When he was included in the PS2 version of ''Unleashed'', fans...complained that he was a [[PaletteSwap "clone" of Mothra]]. * MineCraft, FullStop. The primary division is between the extremely vocal "MOAR UPDATES NOW" fans and the (hopefully larger) group of fans who argue Notch is busy setting up a business and it's only Alpha anyway, they should be happy it's as complete as it is. The longanticipated Halloween 2010 update split the fanbase further. The Nether isn't scary enough! The Nether is too scary! Portals are too complicated! Portals are perfect! Zombie pigmen are too hard! Zombie pigmen are boring and useless! Etc. * I had no idea that this one even existed, but in recent months trying to dig up information about ''MarvelVsCapcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds'' has made me aware of ''that'' particular fanbase. Every single character announcement is met with such an outpouring of vitriol it makes me wonder if these people actually ''want'' the game to come out. The pattern seems to be as follows: 1) Character hasn't been announced yet, so obviously he's not going to be in the game. 2) Character is announced. 3) Character announcement is met with scorn because - well, because ''anything''. His moves suck. He looks dumb now. His alternate costume colors suck. He's just being put in as fanservice. ''This'' character should have been put in instead -- only when he is, the pattern repeats itself. And if anyone happens to ''remind'' these people that if they'd said three years ago that ''Marvel vs. Capcom 3'' was coming out at all, they would've been laughed at, or that they should perhaps wait until the game has been released to complain about what's wrong with it, they're immediately accused of ComplainingAboutComplaining -- which, as counterarguments go, is about as valid as LetsSeeYOUDoBetter. * The MortalKombat FanDumb has full of this since the release of ''UltimateMortalKombat3''. ** [=UMK3=] comes out: "There's too many characters and too many finishing moves!" ** [[MortalKombat4 MK4]] comes out: "There's not enough characters and not enough finishing moves! And the 3D movements suck, make them more like SoulCalibur!" ** [[MortalKombatDeadlyAlliance MKDA]], [[MortalKombatDeception MKD]] and [[MortalKombatArmageddon MKA]]: "They feel like Soul Calibur ripoffs! Mortal Kombat should be 2D!" ** The bets are open on what the bitching will be about in [[MortalKombat9 MK9]] (2D being too limited? 3D models being less realistic than digitized sprites?) [[/folder]]

UnpleasableFanbaseWebcomics * The ''DominicDeegan'' fandom consists of three boards. Reportedly, they're set up to be "critics, flamers, and cheerleaders," but it's hard to see anything universally or even generally positive posted about any of the author's work in the last four years. ** Then there's the Giant in the Playground threads, which spend each day nitpicking, strip slaying, and making pseudo-scientific theories (called ''Dominology'') based on Mookie's day-to-day strips. ** A few good examples of this phenomenon: for the longest time, many fans complained about Luna's continued angst, self-loathing, and emoness, but when she started growing and changing, becoming confident in herself, and even BadAss, it was decried as her turning into a MarySue. Many fans thought Gregory was horribly superpowered, especially after the Super Greg arc; but when the Infernomancer depowered him by literally ripping the White Magic out of him, people complained about this being pointless and ruining his character. Many fans during arcs such as Shadow of Siegfried, Two Thief Or Not to Thief, and the vacation arc were constantly demanding to know what was going on in Maltak, but now that they have gotten to see they're complaining about it as the longest, most useless and heinous arc ever. Even the awesome showdown between Celesto and the Infernomancer which had been long-awaited got savaged as nonsensical and contradictory. Granted, some of this can be explained as disliking what was given to them to read as being out of character, poorly written, or without proper development and planning, but even so it's pretty clear Mookie is damned no matter what he does. * And hey, let's not leave ''{{Order of the Stick}}'' out of this either! If Rich posts a comic that focuses on one character, he alienates the fans of the other characters, and vice-versa. Though for this very reason, Rich never takes his script from the fans' ideas or requests. ** Not to mention the people who take him to task for any action shown in the comic that seems to violate the rules of D&D (or even failing to show the average statistical outcome of whatever they think the stats are for the characters). Not one strip goes by without a nearflamewar about whether such-and-such a character could possibly have survived said damage, or what spell would have been MORE effective than the one they cast -- even if there's no evidence the character even knows the spell, much less prepared it that day. * Amber of ''[[DanAndMabsFurryAdventures Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures]]'' had this sort of problem with her comics falling somewhere between wacky gag-a-day strips and developing story, and fans unable to decide which they preferred. [[http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_872.php Amber's response was entertaining.]] * Parodied in ''SabrinaOnline'', in [[http://www.sabrinaonline.com/strips/SabOnline397.GIF this comic]]. * ''{{Collar 6}}'': Oh boy, where to even start. The series was initially a gag a day comic, but then a strip featured Laura being

drugged without her knowledge or consent. [[InternetBacklash Some fans]] [[DudeNotFunny were not happy]]. Initially, the author felt their complaints were unjustified because it was a fantasy world, but upon further review came to agree with them, leading into the series' flirtation with CerebusSyndrome, as the [[CharacterFilibuster character's discussed]] [[AuthorFilibuster why their behavior had been totally unacceptable]]. At this point [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks some fans felt that the comic had become too serious]] [[GrowingTheBeard while others felt that it added depth to the characters that had previously been lacking]].

UnpleasableFanbaseWebOriginal * ''ZeroPunctuation'' by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw is a series of video reviews which ''always'' AccentuateTheNegative, with a few exceptions in the 100+ videos so far. Fans badgered him incessantly to do a review of ''SuperSmashBros Brawl'', [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/35Super-Smash-Bros-Brawl which he did]]. Many fans were then ''surprised'' that he accentuated the negative. ''Their'' response was so large and loud that he created a [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/37Mailbag-Showdown response]] to their emails. However, a good majority heaped excessive praise on him for ripping into the game they hated (and also bug him to review certain games ''just'' so he'll give it a bad review), and plenty of the people sending him e-mails are probably trolls just trying to piss him off. These were probably most of the people that complained about him giving ''{{Psychonauts}}'' and ''{{Portal}}'' good reviews. It's more of a BrokenBase than anything else. ** Arguably, Yahtzee himself is a pretty good example of an unpleasable fanboy. He's been known to complain about games with poor stories, and then complains that ''MetalGearSolid4'' has ''too much'' story that it gets in the way of the gameplay. * ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh The Abridged Series}}'' hung a lampshade on this. In ''Cr@psule Monsters: Episode 2'', Joey gets attacked by birdlike monsters that are essentially [=LittleKuriboh=]'s unpleasable fanbase. Any of Joey's (and by extension, [=LittleKuriboh=]'s) reasoning gets drowned out by constant squawks of "Where's the new episode?" and he eventually gets attacked. (Granted, YGOTAS often goes months between updates.) * Fans of ''[[RedVsBlue Red vs. Blue]]'' are divided over which videos were better: the early humor-oriented videos or the dramedy trilogy starting with "Reconstruction". When Rooster Teeth returned to its comedy-focused roots, fans that came in after the ReTool cried foul. Likewise, the fans of the earlier stuff blame the newer fans (often [[WildMassGuessing Wild Mass Guessers]]) for "ruining" the series in the first place. ** Let's not even get started on the new CGI scenes. There are people who stopped liking the show before and have now gone back to liking it because of the CGI, people who are starting to dislike the show for it's overuse of the CGI, people who still think the show is awesome

and is just evolving and people who think it's just bad CGI. * ThatGuyWithTheGlasses... Where do we begin? Let's start with the Nostalgia Critic fanbase, in general, when the Nostalgia Critic starting throwing out that the movie can give off some good points, the fans were mad because he wasn't as vitriolic and didn't yell that much, when he started being vitriolic, they complained he was being completely unfair, and the cycle just doesn't stop. He at one point asked the audience if they had Multiple Personality Disorder. ** The Spoony One of TheSpoonyExperiment, who has videos on TGWTG, has to put up with this from his fans complaning about his collaboration with other TGWTG members. It got bad enough that he put up a notice on his front page appealing for manners from his fans, and change the way people comment on his main site after taking down a video of him accepting the Open Web Award for funniest person to follow after less than a day because of the vitriol tword his girlfriend who appeard in it. He still has people on his Forums who do this all the time. It's gotten to a degree where he's concered about it harming his relationship with TGWTG because his "fans" generate so much toxicity no reviewer will want to go near him. That's not mentioning the people who complain about the pace of the updates, whether its a full review or a Vlog, what genre he is reviewing, what game or movie he's reviewing, and how he reviews it. Or the people who complain about the decorations in his room. *** The Open Web awards video deserves a little more elaboration. His fans, and TGWTG fans rallied and voted him "funniest person to follow". As thanks for the award he made a video with his girlfriend Scarlett, who is his site's webmaster and a Forum admin thanking all his fans. People flamed the comments insulting Spoony and Scarlett, but especially Scarlett, personally. Spoony took down the video in a matter of hours, then posting the appeal for manners. The end result was a great tightening of comments for the videos and on the forums, which now, somewhat unsuprisngly, is the target of a great deal of his trolls. ** Let us also not forget the sheer amount of FanDumb and hating unfairly directed at {{Kickassia}} for being... exactly what it was supposed to be? The complaints? That Spoony did not get a big enough role (despite practically being the second lead, behind only Doug Walker himself), and that the writing had plot holes and nonsensical moments. What? A story in which nerds take over a Micronation and then come within an inch of destroying it within a few days during events that involve ''Santa Christ'', a teleporting President, Dr. Smith, Dr. Insano, a man being used as a flagpole, and endless amounts of other ludicrous happenings that occur for the sake of comedy was supposed to make perfect logical sense? You'd almost think you weren't supposed to take the whole thing seriously. So yeah... Makes one shudder to think how these people would react to your standard Leslie Nielsen comedy... ** While this applies as a whole to TGWTG (except possibly Linkara), this is especially the case with Spoony and the Nostalgia Critic. First they complain that they yell to much and are unfunny because of this. So they yell less and introduce sketches and add more complexity to the reviews. Either [[TheSpoonyExperiment he's trying to hard]],

[[TheNostalgiaCritic or he's being too nice]]. And that's not getting into all the hate they get from [[HePannedItNowHeSucks their more controversial reviews...]] ** On the female side of things, when TheNostalgiaChick does straightforward reviews of girly movies, fans will bitch because "[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks she's copying the Critic]]". But when she does her own style of reviews (overview of TheSmurfettePrinciple, for example) or attacks a typical "geeky male"-loved movie (Dune and Transformers), she [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks gets]] [[HePannedItNowHeSucks hate]] for that too. Make up your frigging minds, people! ** Every video FilmBrain makes will always get a comment like this: "He shouldn't be reviewing movies like this. He should stick to movies like ''that'' and leave these alone!". Only, you know, more rudely. Every. One. ** One Word: Storylines. Anyone that tries to start one will either be met with praise or vitriol. * ThisTroper has had sound problems on Youtube for a while. At first no one liked my voice. Then I got some text-to-speech software, and people complained about THAT. I also do videos in more than one format (sometimes I point teh camera at myself, sometimes it's just text, sometimes I use pictures, etc) and everyone either likes or hates one type of video over another. These days I just say "Fuck it" and do whatever I feel like doing at the time. * Just about anything and everything that JamesRolfe does that isn't the AngryVideoGameNerd invariably garners responses such as "This is lame and boring, go back to making Nerd videos!" The most recent victim of this is his new series OverAnalyzers. As for the Nerd videos themselves, same as with TheNostalgiaCritic above, the Nerd either isn't angry enough and too calmly informative, or is too angry and not informative enough, or he wastes too much time doing skits rather than reviewing the game, or the review is boring because all he does is review the game and doesn't make it more interesting with skits. The guy just can't win sometimes.

UnpleasableFanbaseWesternAnimation * Ever since the Academy Awards added the Best Animated Feature and Best Animated Short Film categories, animation fans have been complaining that the award "ghettoizes" animation. * ''TheSimpsons''' fanbase. The [[StrawFan Comic Book Guy]] exists largely so that the writers can comment on the phenomenon. ** In fact, the episode that introduced his catchphrase ("Worst. Episode. Ever.") took ''another'' shot at this trope by showing the creator of Itchy and Scratchy attempting to focus test the fans to figure out what they wanted to make the show better. The children in the focus group all have myriad, contradicting suggestions for improving the series that are utterly useless to the writing staff. * The fanbase of the {{DCAU}} cannot seem to move on now that said DCAU has ended, and will automatically despise any new DC show that comes along as a result. This includes ''TeenTitans'',

''Series/{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}}'', and (most infamously) ''TheBatman'' [[strike:Probably gonna happen with]], and ''[=~Batman: The Brave and the Bold~=]''. ** It seems to have mellowed with the last one, but it still has its hatedom. ** It was much worse a few years ago back when ''JusticeLeague'' was still on the air. There seemed to be no end to the complaining in forums such as World's Finest over George Newburn's voice not being right for Superman or the Cadmus arc not living up to expectations. * The ''{{Daria}}'' fanbase gets quite violent about {{Shipping}}, even several years past the end of the show and the regular airing of reruns. Especially when the subject of Tom comes up. ** Not so much, anymore - especially with the fandom shifting more over towards the ''Daria Expanded Universe'' (which include fan-based works) and some of the better ships with fanon characters. Richard Rawlings, Michael Fulton - the day of the T(h)om-haters has passed. * ''KimPossible''. The main argument here is if Kim is the victim of {{Chickification}} or not. * Disney's ''{{The Princess and the Frog}}'' is their first movie to have a black Disney Princess. It's been plagued with controversy from its announcement, with some people decrying her original name "Maddy" (later changed to Tiana) as stereotypically a lower-class slave name, to her position as a chambermaid (several of the "Disney Princesses" were also of low station), to the original title of "The Frog Princess" apparently being racially insensitive, to people getting angry over the racially ambiguous prince being too white. You can still find a video on Youtube complaining about how Disney thinks all black girls "have" to have a little badonk-badonk. For context, publicity shots of Tiana were the ''only'' human character images released at the time. Other images show a diverse series of character types, including a Creole witch doctor (also racist!), a black voodoo godmother who helps the main characters (labeled a MagicNegro before ''anything'' was revealed about her character), and then the requisite animal characters. ** For a more recent example, read the [[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1162718/Disney-featureblack-princess--critics-complain-falls-love-WHITE-prince.html DailyMail]] milking this for all its worth. Oh, the irony. ** To be fair, Disney does have a nasty track record of UnfortunateImplications in past attempts to appeal to minorities. ''{{Pocahontas}}'' was heavily criticised for resurrecting the stereotype of the NobleSavage or their supposed usage of Naomi Campbell when trying to come up with the image of an actual historical Native American woman. (She was actually based on her Native American Voice Actress) Fifty years ago they did some racially insensitive portrayals of black characters (See ''{{Song of the South}}'' or ''{{Dumbo}}'' for just two such examples). The problem is more that the vast majority of cries about "racism" for this project are seriously overblown make it hard to take even the legitimate concerns seriously. ** [[http://community.livejournal.com/froglegss/13736.html The Livejournal Community for the movie has this discussion on this

topic]] which has fans (many of them black) saying how they actually disagree with all of the "racism" cries. Read it and breathe a sigh of relief. It's hard to take someone seriously when they're decrying a Randy Newman jazz song as a "Negro Spiritual". ** Many have expressed outrage over Ray the firefly being a blatant black stereotype, even though he has spiky red hair and a pretty well done Cajun (read: white) accent. Now, it would be just as wrong to mock the Cajun people, but there've been funny accented Disney sidekicks before, and they usually outshine the leads in terms of personality and character development. Keep in mind all we've seen of the character so far is him smiling at the camera, saying two inoffensive lines and flying away. ** Following the announcement of ''The Princess and the Frog'' having the first African American Disney princess, people immediately started crying racism, from the princess's original name (Maddy, apparently too close to "mammy") to her original job as a chambermaid (conveniently forgetting that Disney/{{Cinderella}} and SnowWhite were also in servitude in their movies). Even after Disney changed the name and job, people still complained about Tiana's "ghetto" accent (ignoring the fact that she was a resident of New Orleans), her character not being drawn attractive enough, and her character being drawn as a "stereotypical" black girl. Her prince, Naveen, has come under fire as well. Disney deliberately made him AmbiguouslyBrown, leading one half of complainers to scream that Disney is balking at their first interracial romance and the other half whining about how little African American boys won't have a Disney prince for the African American girls' princess. ** Let's not forget the dust kicked up when AlanMenken was replaced by RandyNewman as the film's score composer. * For all of their complaints about the AnimationAgeGhetto, 3D animation fans decry ''any'' 3D film not made by Pixar, regardless of its own merits. Somehow, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch they all have penguins]]. ** [[http://io9.com/5501472/latest-despicable-me-trailer-packed-withorphans-kitties-and-tiny-yellow-minions This post on]] ''DespicableMe'' is an excellent example of the DoubleStandard. Even if having an evil or amoral character being given kids to take care in order to humanize him is arguably derivative, Pixar's [[ToyStory flagship franchise]] is based on the very, ''very'' old idea of childhood toys being alive when you're not looking ** Inverted with the Pixar fanbase itself, which is probably the most easily pleasable fanbase in the world. It helps that the fanbase seems to [[BiasSteamroller include many critics]]. *** Not quite. Take Pixar's sudden descision to make sequels for example, people are making a scene over why {{Cars}} 2 is being made and TheIncredibles 2 isn't, never mind the fact that BradBird has said time and time again, that he will make a sequel when he has a good story. * For ''{{TMNT 2003}}'', there is the Fast Forward season, which was reviled upon announcement, and was met by Critical Backlash by many 2003 fans, who preferred the grim tone (Can you blame them?), but when Back To The Sewers was announced to be going back to New York, some

fans went insane, this is probably because of news that, among other things, [[AndTheFandomRejoiced there was going to be a Triceraton Shredder]] in the scrapped second season, but the season wasn't produced because of general unpopularity with the fans. * ''ScoobyDoo'' fandom (and FanDumb) * Many ''{{Futurama}}'' fans complained that Leela was constantly being portrayed as a GodModeSue, so the show's writers tried to redress the balance by showing her to be a terrible Blernsball player in "A Leela of Her Own" - which promptly became the most hated episode in the show's history, with the most common criticism being that it made Leela look bad. Admittedly a lot of the hate was due to some substandard jokes and the DownerEnding, but the episode's treatment of Leela was by far the biggest complaint. * How could we forget ''[=~Avatar: The Last Airbender~=]''? It seems ''nothing'' Mike and Bryan can do is good enough in the eyes of FanDumb. * In ''TheFairlyOddParents'' "Wishology" trilogy, Trixie kisses Timmy. Tootie shippers are mad. Then at the end, Jorgen Von Strangle erases the memories of Timmy's helpers, including Trixie's memory of kissing Timmy. Trixie shippers are mad, and Tootie shippers are still mad, because Tootie wasn't even in the movies. Nobody's happy. ** The LiveActionAdaptation that they're working on, ''Grow Up, Timmy Turner!'', also appears to be heading for this. Among what's revealed of the plot so far is that a now-adult Timmy falls for [[SheIsAllGrownUp a now-hot Tootie]], which should make up for her absence from "Wishology", but instead the fans are focusing complaining about the mere fact that it's in live-action. (Not to mention the bitter Timmy/Trixie shippers.) * The Disney fandom are at it again with ''Rapunzel''. It was originally being directed by Glen Keane, then it got handed over to Byron Howard and Nathan Greno. Some are complaining about it being rendered like 2D, but using CGI. Then there is the absolute ''[[SarcasmMode travesty]]'' of the title change to ''{{Tangled}}'' and the apparent switch of character focus to the prince Flynn Rider. HeadDesk, very much so. * All it took was to change the entire concept of American Dog to what ultimately became {{Bolt}}, (complete with the removal of Christopher Sanders from the project altogether) and suddenly John Lasseter is turning into Michael Eisner. * YourMileageMayVary, but this seems to happen whenever [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] tries to step out of its comfort zone with [[TheBlackCauldron films geared]] [[AtlantisTheLostEmpire more towards]] [[TreasurePlanet older audiences]]. Whenever they try this people say this isn't typical Disney, but when they go back to familiar ground, they are criticised still. * If you've ever spent enough time around fans of the GoldenAgeOfAnimation, you get the feeling that some of them will never be pleased with any revival of classic characters, or the contemporary animation industry as a whole. Some professionals in the animation fields have similar views, like JohnKricfalusi.

UnreliableNarrator * Speaking of percentages, 80% of my brother's 'secrets' are pure bullshit, as I have discovered over the years. Which brings me to... [[FridgeLogic why would anyone make up they tried to loot a convenience store?]] * Probably about 90% of all Troper Tales. ** I would say about 95 percent ** I say 100%. If the things people 'confess' in this section were true, why would they want anyone with an Internet connection to know? *** Actually, telling other people about things can be very therapeutic and help you get over it, like a burden is being lifted from your shoulders. *** Also,bragging. *** Meh. A lot of them are just funny stories, not confessions or bragging. A good proportion aren't even that, and ''those'' ones I tend to believe, because they would be funnier if they ''were'' made up. *** All of the above. *** Most of the stuff probably did happen, but thanks to AlternateCharacterInterpretation, they can exxagerate what happens to them. Most of the time when we tell a story about ourselves, we make ourselves seem as sympathetic as possible. *** [[FridgeLogic Wait a minute,]] if it's said in troper tales that 100% of troper tales are lies, then that means that was a lie and 100% of troper tales aren't lies, which makes that statement true about 100% of troper tales being lies and [[LogicBomb oh great my brain hurts now]] **** Not so! The opposite of "100% is false" doesn't have to be "100% is not-false AKA true." You can also have "not-100% is false" which allows for situations where, say, 99% of all troper tales are false. Also, if that statement is a lie, its implied claim to covering all troper tales is also invalidated. * I seem to enjoy lying about small things that don't exactly matter, for reasons I can't think of, even editing the truth into lies if it's not going to have too much of an effect. I myself can't always tell if I'm being reliable or not, honest. ** Never tell the truth when a lie would be funnier. * This troper tends to, ahem, "amend" the reality of events to better fit my storytelling sensibility. This is, for obvious reasons, not always desirable. * This troper can fly and singlehandedly averted the Cuban Missile Crisis. ** [[DoctorHorriblesSingALongBlog This troper tamed Bad Horse.]] *** This troper helped him. That was a nice carpet ride. * this troper tends to bend the truth unless the truth makes for a good story * This Troper meet this girl in a summer camp who claimed that her cousin was kidnapped in South County and wanted me to help her. It took me awhile to realize she was lying, becuase I was young. She also claimed we were making a movie with a photo camera, but that isn't narrating. * When meeting new people or being in a setting where I'm probably

never going to see the people again, I tend to improvise stories. I don't do that among people I see a lot, though. * This was the reason why I stopped hitting people in elementary school. Those damn liar kids, that was just an innocent pinch! It's not like you're going to die for that...! * This troper's writing a story about meta-fiction (ie, the characters continuously break the fourth wall, the Narrator is actually a character) where the narrator is unreliable. He opens up literal PlotHoles by refusing to describe some stuff or granting the protagonist NewPowersAsThePlotDemands. * In this troper's short story ''Shallow'', the narrator is a high school student who had his classmates murdered by a serial killer. He details events happening around him with some distortion due to his self-admitted thrill he gets from all those. [[spoiler: It later turns out that some of the details don't match up and in the last, it turns out that ''he'' is the killer.]] * I could say that I have a tendency to do this sometimes, but since it's on this page you probably won't believe me. * Back when this troper was in high school, someone in the year below him came to school with a huge, 2 inch long scar above his left eyebrow. This the story that person gave: Apparently he was at home, smoking weed with a bong with a few friends. His dad just so happened to come home early that night, saw him and his friends with the bong and he then proceeded to chase said friends out of his house before breaking the bong over that guy's head. Here's what ''actually'' happened: [[spoiler: He was going down some Concrete stairs, tripped over and gashed his head.]] * [[Tropers/JusticeReaper I]] believe very much that I am a subversion of this, due to my very strong belief that truth is absolute and that the truth will set you free. Of course, since I'm writing on this particular page, I probably won't be believed, but oh well-[[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming the 5% out there who believe as I do will have comfort in the point that they're not alone]]. * This tropette has a tendency to randomly alter things while retelling them ''without even paying attention''. I then internally cringe and ask myself how/why I said that, but everyone's already amused or fascinated, and I'm too embarrassed to amend it because [[InformedAttribute I'm known for being honest]]. It's always just funny mistakes I've made or dreams I've had or other things that won't hurt anyone, but I'm darned mad at myself, because what if one day it isn't? And I keep managing to stop and then find myself [[HereWeGoAgain doing it again]]. ---[[EverythingIsBetterWithMonkeys No]] [[SweetDreamsFuel one]] [[TimeHollow here]] [[EntryPimp is]] [[BrickJoke reliable,]] [[BaitAndSwitch but]] [[HurricaneOfPuns you]] [[ThisTroper can]] [[SceneryAsYouGo trust]] [[FourIsDeath one]] [[LeftFielder of]] [[TouhouProject these]] [[TroperTales potholes]] [[PotHole to]] [[LegendOfZelda link]] [[BackToBackBadasses back]] [[PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy to]] [[RapunzelHair the]] [[InheritanceCycle original]] [[SubvertedTrope trope]], [[UnreliableNarrator hon]][[YouSuck e]][[UnreliableNarrator st.]]

[[FanService Okay, here's the page.]] ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnrequitedLoveSwitcheroo * I guess I'll start. Through the last couple of years of high school, this troper went through a lot of AllLoveIsUnrequited. [[{{Tsundere}} The first girl it happened with]] had an UnrequitedLoveSwitcheroo later. I didn't actually know it was an UnrequitedLoveSwitcheroo until I came home for the most recent [[{{Eagleland}} Thanksgiving break]], 3 years after the fact. The girl in question was only free for a couple of days, and she insisted that I take her to IHOP alone at 1:00 in the morning the night she got back. Then we talked for 2 hours and I realized what had happened, though neither of us outright said it. Of course, a relationship is rather unfeasible at this point because we go to college in different states and neither of us could do a long-distance relationship. Funny how that works. * This trope sums up my love life. Usually what happens is I get a 6month-long crush on them that they fail to notice. A year later, when I no longer care, they're following me around with starry eyes. Then comes the bonus round: up to two ''years'' after they've given up and/or decided that they hate me, I fall hard. This pattern has repeated [[RuleOfThree three times]] now. ** Huh, so this troper isn't the only one then. ** [[YouAreNotAlone Nope.]] [[ManipulativeBastard Could be worse.]] * I went through this in High School. We met in an art class, I became a StalkerWithACrush, she warmed up to me... just in time for me to start dating someone else. It became reversed again when I found out that she was dating someone. * This troper had a fairly epic one, with variations, that went something like: girl sees boy in play, girl pines for a bit and then decides she'd better forget it, girl actually meets boy through random coincidence, girl and boy hit it off, boy just wants to fool around but girl actually likes boy and thus squashes the idea, boy gets over it, girl gets over it, boy sends mixed signals, girl decides ''she'' wants to fool around but doesn't want a relationship, ''boy'' actually likes girl and thus squashes the idea, girl gets over it, boy gets a girlfriend, girl tries to date other guys but realizes she does like boy, but by the time she manages to say anything about it, boy is totally committed to his girlfriend, girl gets over it ''again'', and nothing ever actually happens. (And all the while [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality narrative causality]] is throwing every rom-com cliche in its power at them, to no avail.) * [[Tropers/RedWren This troper]] got this, or rather thought she did. After comparing notes, she realized that their "unrequited" love overlapped. By about ''three months''. For perspective, the romantic sentiments were about six months on her end. * Think this applies in my life right now.

* Edgy went through this with a number of ladies. I went through this in my senior year of high school. I finally kiss the girl and heartbreak happens. Cue me going TropeTales/ManipulativeBastard. I went through this again with an ex I am going good terms with and eventually got cockblocked by some douche. In the end, I'm glad because that ex has HPV. * A while back, an old coworker who had always liked me randomly got back in contact with me after her boyfriend broke up with her. I blew off hanging out with her for over a month, but after two nights of hanging out, I was the one who had it bad for her, and she was the one who began to only see me as a friend. ----

UnsatisfiableCustomer Place your real-life examples of [[UnsatisfiableCustomer Unsatisfiable Customers]] here. ---* Browse any forum on {{eBay}} that you care to mention, particularly those dealing with selling issues but also occasionally buyers' pages. It's really hard sometimes to believe that 99% of transactions are actually successful, most sellers are fairly straight operators, and that most buyers are actually fairly easy to please. * Taken to new heights when dealing with any kind of public service. Expect the sentence "my taxes pay your salary" to come up many times, regardless of how unreasonable, impossible, and/or illegal the request. * I was eating at a hamburger restaurant when a woman received her burger, took a bite out of it, and angrily stomped back to the pickup counter saying her meat was undercooked. Both the cook and the manager apologized, intending to both refund her money and cook her another burger, but she insisted on suing the place. Regardless of what they said, she repeatedly responded, "It doesn't matter. I'm going to sue." I honestly couldn't tell if her burger really was undercooked or if she was just trying to abuse the legal system, but either way, that restaurant is still there after about a year. The lawsuit didn't happen. I strongly believe she was bluffing--even after the manager said he'll fight the case, she continued to yell at him about suing the restaurant. * This troper had the unfortunate experience of going to a restaurant with one of these. After eating, he pulled some coupons out of his wallet and give them to the waiter. The coupons had expired over a year ago, and when the waiter pointed this out, he got angry and demanded to speak with the manager. When the manager said the same thing, he started shouting that it was his right as a customer and the restaurant should accept his coupons, expired or not. In the end he paid the bill, stormed out and I never went to a restaurant with him again.

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* Lampshaded with This Troper. She recently had a dream in which the RoguesGallery from Batman broke into her garage. They decided to kidnap her, and she ran off. The bad guys did not give chase, so she doubled back and allowed herself to be kidnapped, actually saying "It wouldn't be a good story if I got away." * This Troper's friend managed to successfully pull this off his dog. * This Troper once wrote an essay about it. * This troper's DungeonsAndDragons group has a master of this. He never explains what is he doing, but is nearly always effective at whatever he is doing. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnusualDysphemism * 'Diarrhea in a bottle' = cola drink. 'Rancid cum buckets' = a pack of yogurts. 'Dried rotten blood' = black pudding. 'Shit' = alcoholic drink... all of them courtesy of my friend. You can tell he has a [[BileFascination strange mania]] with bodily secretions. 'Bear farts' = cookies. 'Bee vomit' = honey. My little brother made those up. ** This troper's family also refers to honey as bee vomit. * [[{{Floria}} This Troper]]'s family is full of avid gardeners, and we refer to our collection of seed catalogs as the "PornStash." ** [[ADateWithRosiePalms "See]][[AllMenArePerverts d]] [[BoysLove catalog]][[YaoiFangirl s"]][[MoneyShot ?]] ...[[FreudWasRight Interesting]]. * Similar things happen with other interests. When my brother, cousin, and I (all electronics nerds in one form or another) shared an apartment, we referred to Computer Shopper as Porn. I've (jokingly) referred to a ham radio catalog the same way! * The father of this troper's friend jokingly refers to his money (or the people whose pictures are on the money) as his "pin-up girls". * I've got a few good ones for children. Crotchfruit, Twat Truffle, Fuck Trophy, Cunt Candy, Crotch Monkey, and my personal favorite, Fruit of the Womb. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

UnusualEuphemism * This troper has a friend who, when he needs to take a leak, says "Bob needs to cry." Heh heh. * This troper, when he was about seven, often said "What the gravy?" I think this had something to do with me first hearing someone exclaim "Good gravy!" Nowadays, I prefer to use typical euphemisms. * [[Tropers.ReikoKazama This troper]] uses "Holy guacamole!", "[[SoundEffectBleep *ho]][[SailorMoonAbridged nk*]]" (in text only), "[[HellfireComms Jesus tap-dancing H. Christ on a unicycle!]]", "[[HellfireComms Christ on a bike]]", and many others she can't even think of right now. Likewise, her father uses "ridiculhorse".

* 'Pull off a donkey', 'It got jammed', 'Making the bald one vomit', 'Replacing ''it'' with the wrong battery'. To be honest I have no idea what they are supposed to mean, except for the 'bald' one. Bonus points if anyone else gets that one ;) ** Mr. Clean in a Tilt-A-Whirl? * 'Gloating', 'tainting', 'diving'... all of them are euphemisms for sex in my area. 'Eating strawberries with whipcream' is an euphemism for... well, [[VisualInnuendo you know]]. The funny thing is that 'banging' is an euphemism for stealing. * In this tropers middle school "pulling a Medley" meant masturbating in reference to a student who was well known for the amount of porn he watched. * This troper has unusual eupehemisms for swear words around those who are offended by them. The first thing that comes to mind is what goes. Shouting "Holy motherfrankfurter mustard!" gets some odd looks. Also, jumping on a trampoline for sex. Disturbing when the little kids go jump on the trampoline with friends... * At this troper's high school, "studying psychology" means sex. There's an English teacher who always does a lesson on subtext, in which he tells about how when he was in high school, there was a girl who kept trying to get him to come over to her house to study for a psychology test, hinting about how her parents were out of town. It flew straight over his head, and it only hit him a month later what he had passed up. * When me and my GF are IMing, we use Taco for, figure it out yourself. She likes when I hold her Taco. * This troper's freshman social studies teacher called sex "flendigerdering" * Between this troper and her best friend, "climbing a tree" means having sex. Particularly disturbing because this troper used to quite like climbing trees... ** Are you saying you don't like sex, because you may be doing something wrong. *** Do not make this troper defend the first troper and himself for prefering chastity, you sockplucker! *** If you can't enjoy sex, maybe its because you are of a particularly religious family, or, like in Xanth, the sight of underwear makes you freeze up. **** Or because you're a perfectly normal person who happens to not like sex. **** You'd think that on TV Tropes of all places someone would mention the obvious: {{asexuality}}, dude. ***** Asexuality and not enjoying sex are not the same thing. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Look it up before you make assumptions.]] ** ''That'' brings a whole new dimension to "[[TransformersFilmSeries We're here to climb this tree.]]" *** This troper thinks that the first troper meant that he used to like to go to the park, find a tree, and try to get to the top of it, the more common meaning of "climbing trees", and that it's bothered him that now, since he liked climbing trees, it becomes an innuendo, a double entendre, or whathaveyou. It's not that he doesn't like sex, but that he doesn't like that the thing he did before that had nothing

to do with sex now reminds him of it.[[WildMassGuessing Just a wild guess though.]] **** Well, its better than a [[VentureBros Rusty Venture]]... * Reversal: A friend of mine would consistently use Penis instead of dick as an insult: "He's such a Penis!" It was very surreal for this troper. ** This also results in words like "recockulous." * This troper's favorite: "''Mother of pearl''"! ** ...and did not see the example above. * A few kids in this troper's school have taken to using vocabulary words as expletives. Highlights include "What the fluctuate?" and "Scruple you!" ** Your school is officially the best school ever. ** My friends use "bucolic" as a euphemism for "fuck" or "shit" or something similar. ** Physics classes at my school spawned "Watt the flux?". It's on tshirts. * This troper uses "schmuzz" when he makes a mistake or fumbles. * This troper's friends often use "playing checkers" as a euphemism for sex. Nobody can ever suggest such a game without hilarity ensuing. ** "Hey, wanna play checkers?" "Nah, I'm not that good at it, I can only ever get one king to play with." "Well how about chess?" "Nah, I can never get a check". * This editor likes to use "Oh, biscuits." It's become somewhat of a catchphrase for me. ** [[FredTheMonkey Sceb?]] * [[GwenStacyWannabe This troper]]'s entire high school is full of these. Two favorites being "Bob Sagget!" and "redonkulous". Oh, and "Joseph Smith!" ** Said high school's honors English teacher also invented the word "yerf", for use as a replacement of ''any'' word in the English language. It did not take long for "Up yerf!" and "Yerf you!" to become popular. *** Similarly, this troper's Latin teacher used a method where each unknown word in a sentence was replaced with 'Smurf'. [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity ensued]], of course. *** This troper invented the similar word Flurgalschnag after nearly dropping an F bomb when a priest/latin teacher gave him back a quiz with a failing grade. He regularly calls his friend who got a kick out of it a Flurgalschnag as both an insult and a term of endearment (on a side note: Yerf and Flurgalschnag are both antonyms and synonyms at the same time). * This troper doesn't like swearing, so she has fun collecting the Swear Words That Aren't. Among those in her repertoire are wretch, villain, cad, and cheechako. She also called her computer an "item of questionable parentage" when it froze up on her. ** Those aren't euphemisms, those are {{Expospeak Gag}}s, but still good. * What about jackanapes? ** Ooh, say "jackanapes" again! * Some of this troper's friends were talking about sex while there were young children about. Interested in continuing their

conversation, but not in corrupting the youth, they decided to use the euphemism "puppies." This led to a particularly interesting situation later on. One of the people involved in the conversation was saying "I thought everyone'd had a puppy by the time they were eighteen" when another friend, who hadn't been involved in the prior conversation, walked up. Unaware of the euphemism, the newcomer responded "I'm allergic to puppies." She was confused as to why people burst out laughing. ** Something similar happened to the troper, thanks to Obfuscating Innocence. She was an eighth-grader, in a math class of sophomores. They were talking about some literature thing, and they said the Devil's... and I put in cat. After that, cat become synonymous with dick. After that, I would not shut about how ADORABLE and CUDDLY cats and baby kittens were, and how I WISHED I could have a cat of my own, and how it was too bad that my mom was allergic to cats, thanks to the spit they washed themselves with dried on their fur becoming allergic. Their reactions were hilarious. * [[GwenStacyWannabe This troper]] is a [[{{Nerd}} total nerd]] and she makes up Replacement Swear Words using comic book villains' names. Her current favorites being: "Great Blastaar!", "Holy Fin Fang Foom!", and "Son of the Joker!"/"Son of Orihime !", as well as using "Inoue Orihime" as a stand-in for [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean "female dog"]]. Saying "Stop being such an Orihime!" to somebody is fun. ** As well as occasionally "Holy sardines, Batman!" if I'm feeling particularly nostalgic. ** I've also inspired a friend of mine to do this too. "OH MY [[TheIncredibles GAZERBEAM]]!" * [[MmmKay This troper]] ''loves'' this... "Oh foop.", "Blarglefraggle!", "[[NeilCicierega GAHBUNGAH!!!]]", and "7!" to name a few. * A guy in a Latin class this troper once took used "fluctibus", a form of the Latin word for "wave" (as in, waves in the ocean) as a stand-in for "fuck" in various situations; the usage spread through the rest of the class's members pretty quickly (including this troper). * Speaking of Latin varieties, this tropers Latin class now uses "facit" instead of fuck. It doesn't help that it means "doing *insert some verb here*"... * This troper's younger sister uses "cheese snot" as minor epithet. It's great fun to say, and has spread through this troper's friends like wildfire. We have in return inflicted her with the UnusualEuphemism "sad panda." [[ItMakesSenseInContext It makes sense to US, anyway.]] * This troper, who is a bit sensitive about using {{God}}'s name in vain, typically substitutes "Goddammit" with "gahdammit" and "g'dammit," though those two end up sounding almost the same anyway. ** This troper's religious father has been known to use "God bless it!" during times of extreme emotional turmoil. * This troper and his friends tend to yell "Eggs!" and this troper himself substitutes whatever he was talking about last, leading to at least one "Son of a Zoidberg". * [[{{Griffinguy24}} This troper]] was chastized that, if I truly was

an atheist, then I shouldn't say "Jesus Christ" or any other blasphemous language (I tried to argue that to me it wasn't blasphemous to me, but conceded the point that I didn't want to refer to something I don't believe in). As such, being a huge Aztec nerd, I now swear by their deities. This has led to such interesting cries as "Sweet Huitzilopochtli!" or "By Tezcatlipoca's charred, exposed fibulae!" ** Similar case for this troper- when she was twelve, she was nuts over Egyptian mythology, leading to the phrases, "Oh for the love of Ra!" and "Oh my Hathor!" It briefly caught on with her friend, and for the last two months of the school year, those were the only swears they used- even at home, and the more religious students were satisfied... Good times, good times... *** Have you ever used "Aw, ''Set''", "Holy Set!", or "We're in for Set now"? ** This was actually encouraged by my grade nine English teacher, although it was for Greek mythology. We all did it for about two weeks, and sometimes occasionally after. ** [[{{Tabby}} This troper]] does the same, only with gods she's ''invented.'' Moments of extreme irritation are frequently met with an invocation of the Mother Of Wolves, or the extremely sinister (if only to me) "May Laughs With Teeth watch over you." ** [[SchizoTechnician This Troper,]] in a similar vein, only swears by ''fictional'' deities, primarily [[{{Transformers}} Primus]], [[{{Pokemon}} Arceus]], and [[LegendOfZelda Din]], although [[{{Superman}} Rao]] slips in occasionally, usually in the expression "Sweet merciful Rao!" Needless to say, most people have ''no'' idea what he's talking about. *** This troper has also been known to use "Sweet merciful Rao!", as well as "Holy Rao/Krypton!" ** This troper has no trouble of his atheism in his native language, since it contains very few explicitly religious expletives, but in English he enjoys saying "For Cthulhu's sake!" and "For the love of Eris!", to suit his fandom of H.P. Lovecraft and membership of the Discordian cabal (it's perfectly possible to be atheist and Discordian at the same time). ** [[ThatWackyGerman This Troper]] uses the Norse Gods to swear. His favorites are 'Thor's Hammer' and 'Odin's Eye'. ** [[SephlidJam This troper]] prefers not to discriminate among deities: "Oh for the love of [[CrystalDragonJesus Generic Religious figure number 27]]." Or, he'll use any of the above. (expect the Aztec gods - just too much of a mouthful.) ** [[EddieVanHelsing This troper]] tends to swear by Lilith's heartshaped ass. When he's really annoyed, he swears by Shabranigdo's balls. * This troper enjoys using "son of a [[Warhammer40K Kroot]]". ** Probably because you are a thick-skulled son of a Ork. * [[StealthyBoy This Troper]] often uses the phrases "Blething Fesk", "Oh Carp" or "Gorbachev". * This troper, who lives on the Western side of the Atlantic, generally uses Bloody instead of Fucking. He also uses the phrase [[EdEddNEddy Son of a Shepherd]].

* This troper occasionally says "Son of a mother!," which is sort of cool if you don't think too hard about it. ** Actually, this is quite common in Brazil. Insult Backfires ensue. * "Oh, fruit" is this one's all-purpose expletive. For years and years, her peers have been giving her the MisplacedKindergartenTeacher talk about how "it's okay to use ''big'' people's words!", but I maintain the right to control my own vocabulary, and use this particular word for nostalgia's sake (although I tend to present it as Mysterious Personal Reasons to get them off me). * "OH MY ARCEUS" is one of this troper's favorite sayings, along with "Sweet PokeJesus, I'm * insert bizarre action here* !" * [[TriggerLoaded This troper]] will sometimes say "Fudge!" As a curse. If something happens soon after to warrant another curse, then "Double Fudge!" If something happens right after that in sequence, then I utter an angry "Double Fudge Sundae!" In crescendo. ** And this troper! Although its more of a 'FFFFFFFFFFFU- * sees nonswearing friend* -udge...' * innocent face* ** This troper's heard "Oh, fudgie" which she finds pretty cute. * This troper prefers using radishes to profanities. Such phrases are : "Ravishing Radishes!", "Oh Radish!" and "Stop Horse Radishing me!" ** [[{{Tabby}} This troper]] does that too, occasionally modifying it to "flying French hell." Nothing against the people, the country, the culture, or the language, but ya gotta admit it sounds good in there. ** Really? [[{{Scrounge}} I]] usually use "rat" for that middle word. Why the flying rat hell would I do that? Dunno. ** [[QuantumToast Another one]] who uses "French Hell", though I only use it after "what in the". I also occasionally use "[[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys Epic Monkey]]" in place of "God", after seeing such a creature in {{Spore}}. * As in the food related examples above, this troper uses "Fudge" instead of a ClusterFBomb. This troper has also managed to replace ''every'' single curse word he knows with a food item. "You Meltedfudger! I'm going to kick your peach and yogurt on your face! You fudging berry! For Meltedfudging Dog's sake! (Dog is God backwards)." This relieves anger, confuses people, and can be screamed in public with only puzzled faces for a consequence. * [[ZanderSchubert This troper]] has once said "Pantomime!" No, I'm not sure why. Generally, I tend to use "fentre" quite often: it starts out with an F, which is always good, and it ends with a French R, which is amusingly harsh. * [[{{Nomic}}This troper]] uses "in Legion's name"/"in the name of the Legion" etc. quite often (as in "What in the name of the Legion are you doing?". The Legion in question is ofcourse the [[{{Warcraft}} Burning one]]. He also uses "Fhtang!" as an expletive (taken from the webcomic Unspeakable Vault of Doom). One of his friends in higschool had the habit of using "cleaning up" as an euphenism for "having sex". [[ItMakesSenseInContext It made sense in the contex]] * This troper has taken to saying "By Crom!" when taken by surprise, or by soemthing really cool, or even as a general threat. (I.e., "By Crom, that was a kickass movie!" "May Crom strike you down!") He has also started using "Vin Diesal Jesus" after reading about it in the webcomic Cordeval. (Sweet Vin Diesal Jesus!)

** This (other) troper sometimes prays to Crom. * This troper's friend REFUSES to use any swear words to the point of going "PROFANITY" every time ''other'' people use them . Thus, we have some very interesting phrases like "You bottomfeeder!" and "Oh, poopsicles". He also considers 'damn' and stuff like that to be swear words. ** [[JBridge This]] troper [[DorkAge used to be like that]]. Let me know where he lives so I can give him a good bitchslap. Back on topic, my favorite swear is "damnski". The term "smoth" has also entered my vocabulary via a friend. Used when someone fails something horribly. Rhymes with sloth. * This troper's brother likes to say "''area''" for both male and female genitals. It works pretty well, actually, being neither crude nor, exactly, inaccurate. ** Is it possible anymore to say "anatomy" and not have it taken to mean "male bits"? ** Is it possible any more to say "area" and not have it taken to mean David Bowie's? ** Is it possible for something to be exactly inaccurate? ** This troper prefers the phrase "where it counts". * This troper and her friends get creative with this sometimes. Favorites include "Jesus Christ wearing a propeller hat on a pogo stick!", "I swear by my mother's solid gold waffle iron...", and "Oh, sausages". * [[TheWorldEndsWithYou "OH SWEET JESUS BEAMS."]] Yes, I really do say that. ** Similarly, [[{{Quillpaw}} This troper]] uses replaces "God" and "Jesus" with "[[spoiler:Joshua]]" ** Thanks to you, [[DarkInsanity13 this troper's]] brother now says it. * This troper likes to say "Sweet X Jesus" where X can be anything from Buttery and Zombie to Rock 'n' Roll, Tapdancing and LaserBlsatin'. Optionally, "on a pogo stick", "on a cracker" and other such things may be added. They're practically Jesus-Madlibs. * After watching ''North and South'', this troper has taken to occasionally using "Bent" as an all purpose insult. (For those who haven't seen it, Bent is a textbook example of {{The Neidermeyer}} with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. [[spoiler: The scene where Orry and George get Bent expelled from West Point is very satisfying for this troper's mother.]]) ** It helps that "Get bent!" is actually a British phrase essentially meaning "Go fuck yourself." * This troper coined "arsecandles". Think about it. * This troper is probably not the only one to take the name of [[TheOffice Schrute]] in vain, but it makes a particularly satisfying euphemism for numerous other vulgarities beginning with 's'. Or even as an all purpose censor bleep. Similarly, for multi-syllable imprompu substitutes, [[{{Torchwood}} Ianto Jones]] [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean gets the job done just fine.]] * [[VoodooChild This troper]] uses "Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ" and "our blessed lady of acceleration" in homage to ''The Blues Brothers'', and regularly uses "frak" (and all its derivatives). She's

not nearly as inventive as her friend, who has a tendency to substitute "oh my giddy aunt", "shittake mushrooms" and "holy fing fang foom" for swearwords. ** This troper, taking a page out of the TheBluesBrothers, regularly for the intervention of "Our Holy Mother of Perpetual Green Lights" whenever he turns onto roads noted to have poorly synched up stoplights. Helps sometimes. * [[{{alliterator}} This troper]] now realizes that the names of fonts make cool-sounding curse words. "Oh dingbats!" "Helvetica!" "Times New Roman, this sucks!" ** Does that make C____ S___ the equivalent of a ClusterFBomb? * During the secondary school years my friends and I made sport of varying our english as far from standard as we were able while still comprehending each other, some more memorable attempts include; ...With a rake (as an expression of surprise) excessive use of the word Drok! and Social Activities to refer to anything it may not have been appropriate for a group of underage b&s getting up to. ** Oh and acquire was the catch all term for anything we had gotten our hands on illicitly. * This troper and several of his friends have taken to using the terms "behind the curtain" and "curtaining" to refer to sexual activity, thanks to that being the euphemism used on several occasions when roleplaying game characters hooked up. He himself is also know to swear in his self created language. Due to being a CRFH!!! fan the phrase "Maritza on a pogostick!" has also entered his vocabulary. * This troper has used the phrase "What the blue monkey hell?!" when encountering something that beggars belief. I really don't know where it came from. I've also used terms more common to British English (calling something "bloody ridiculous", for example), even though I'm American. Along with the memorable "What the flyin' [[{{FunWithAcronyms}} fubar]] was ''that'' all about?!". ** This troper first saw "blue monkey hell" used in [[http://www.zebeth.com Planet Zebeth]], but it probably didn't originate there. * A favorite "polite company" swear of this troper's is "Oh crumbs." Blame her junior year English teacher. * At [[JapaneseTeeth this troper's]] high school, the phrase "eating pretzels" became a euphemism for sex through a long sequence of events that I don't feel like explaining. None of us can eat pretzels without a ton of awkwardness. ** When he went to college, "f*** able" was always replaced with "boofable". *** [[{{Erfworld}} Boop?]] *** Among this troper's friends, a 'healthy looking individual' is a hot girl. * Whenever something inconvenient occurs to this troper, the standard response is "well, isn't this a bucket of cat dander." * This troper especially hates 'son of a bitch' curse, so she uses son of a pimp instead for amusement on people's faces. * Among this troper's circle of friends, "tall woman with a laptop" (or "short man with a beard") are to {{transsexual}}s what "woman in

comfortable shoes" is to lesbians. * This troper is rather fond of 'Sweet Rock Metal Jesus!' as well as gorram, frack, and gespacho. * A popular replacement for 'very' words is '[[TheWorldEndsWithYou so zetta]]'. ** This troper once described the weather as "going from zetta hot to zetta cold" to friends who don't play WEWY. * facepalm* More recently, after countless failed attempts to {{Speedrun}} the BonusBoss, "open up your world" sounds like a euphemism for rape now. * This troper's workplace has the "Gone to Washington" for homosexuality. It came about in the pretty obvious way: A lesbian went to washington. * As a result of [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve certain events]] in the Series/DoctorWho series three finale, this troper tends to default to exclaiming "Sweet Tinkerbell Jesus!" * [[{{Momonga}} This troper]] isn't one of those people who prevents others from swearing, but prefers to be more original about it herself. On a trip to a candy store, she noticed a bag of something labeled "Pontefract." The hard consonant combinations make it a great pseudo-swear word. (For those wondering, it was a bag of the type of licorice candy originating in the town of Pontefract, England. The word comes from the root for "broken bridge.") * I often call my brother a "son of a lovely mother" 'cause I really don't want to be calling my mom something awful (but one time the traditional phrase did slip, so I had to back it up and tell my bro he was adopted). * For a while, this troper, when shouted would yell '''"[[Main/BigNo CHAPSTICK!!!]]"''', followed by a quieter, muttering ''"chapstick......"'' * This troper frequently uses "fitbin" (invented in the adult comic ''Viz'') * One of this troper's friends uses "What the Smurf?" * Since discovering(and getting my friends on the nightshift into) Dwarf Fortress, our euphemisms have gone a tad odd. This troper is fond of swearing by Armok's name, and using 'Carp!' and 'Elephants!' as his profanities of choice. Anyone who asks us what we're talking about we tell to read Boatmurdered. * This troper will say things such as, 'Fuckbuckets!', 'Jesus Christ Bananas!', 'Christ on a Cracker!', or, for some reason she doesn't understand, 'Hold on a chicken' (instead of the normal 'hold on a minute'). * I use the actual word euphemism as a euphemism. I also use route 209 as a euphemism for hell. If you're wondering why, it's because it's also bothered me that my brother thinks that the song named route 209 sounds like the song telephone line. I've also used B-tard as a euphimism before I even knew about 4chan. * Demons from ''{{Supernatural}}'' make good swears - and, since watching the "Ghostfacers" episode, [[SerenYGogledd this Troper]] has found herself saying "Skull and Crossbones!" when extremely annoyed. Her dad's favourite ''faux'' swear is "What the four canal barges?" (try saying it out loud). * ThisTroper makes use of two variations, "f'ck" (pronounced with a

bit of a click between the f and the ck) and "fusk", the latter of which is so popular among some of my friends that it's actually become the official swear of one of my friend's original settings. * This troper was once a member of a forum that spent a good several months almost exclusively replacing all swear words with the names of various vegetables. "Get your asparagus over here, you mothercarroting son of a tomato!" * This troper often uses "Flumwurst!" (and sometimes "Scrapulate!") as swear words, just because they sound good... * [[BrightBlueInk This troper]] once decided--after a discussion on a Christian Tolkien fans group where the "Sacksville-Baggins" were called SBs--to create an entire set of LordOfTheRings-based euphemisms. Unfortunately, she never got very far past "What the Mordor?!" and "You Sacksville-Baggins!" * Oh, Shih-Tzu. * This troper has used "Oedipus" to substitute for "motherf*** er" (think about it...) and "Farfergnugen" (the old VW motto) in fits of frustration. Other pseudoswears include a shouted "FORK" in response to painful stimuli, and involking such obscure bits of godly anatomy as Aphrodite's nipples or Hermes' left testicle as a moderate oath. ** My favorite is "Oedipal illegitimate son of an oedipal relationship!" think about it. * This troper makes liberal use of {{Transformers}}-style exclaimations (such as 'kiss my skidplate'), with a goodly-sum of Bagel-toting Jesi thrown in for good measure. He is also extremely fond of hyphenated insults including the word "rectum". Despite all this indulgence in Unusual Euphemy, somewhat hypocritically, everyone who has used the word "frak" within earshot of him has earned themselves an entirely reflexive punch to the gut. * This troper, being a space nerd who does not approve of swearing, says "Oh, Phobos!". * [[PandaKnight This Troper]] uses "Christ on a Carousel" as an expression of mild frustration. He doesn't remember how this came into being. In addition, "clocksucker" is a term for his many friends who like steampunk when they annoy him. * "Smite thee!" is what this troper's friend yells whenever she gets mad at someone. This troper has adopted "Burninate you!" * This troper has adopted "oh, ''motherballs''" as an expression of frustration. (She and her writing partner also tend to describe particularly blatant examples of AuthorAppeal as "plot-related reasons.") * This troper uses "Oh, Kromaggs!" as an expression of anger, surprise, or both * this troper, due to being unable to swear at work, uses "Kretch," a syllable of his own devising (as far as he knows). ** [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kretch_insect Not quite]]. * "Oh, [[TheLegendOfZelda Goddesses]]!" * [[DarkInsanity13 This troper]] uses a different kind of ClusterFBomb; frickfrickfrickfrick, etc. Other times, she uses "frick on a stick" or "shit on a stick" or "shitsticks". * [[{{Loki Lie-Smith}} This troper]] occasionally uses [[Series/DoctorWho "Vashta Nerada!"]]

* [[GentlemensDame883 This troper]] has friends who can say [[TheChroniclesOfNarnia Nar-NIA]] like some spectacularly foul oath. * When "Jesus Christ!" isn't enough, this troper elongates it to "Jesus Christ in a Handbasket!" ** This troper, with deep debt to Claire Beauchamp Randall Fraser (of ''Outlander'' fame) will occasionally use "Jesus H. Roosevelt Christ!" as she does. (In the context of the novel, it confuses Claire's 18th century husband to great effect-- as does her use of the word 'sadist', and the word 'fucking'.) * This Troper has formulated such gems as Christ in a Crapbucket, CRAPSACKS! yelled loudly, followed more quietly by "sacks of CRAP", Sweet flipping banana hammock!, By the Light of the Moon!, In the name of sweet merciful Odin (usually followed by the likes of "What happened here?"), oh your god, Great Gatsby!, Chicken Kicker!, Fried Chicken (Frickin'), and Smoked Meat logs! * This troper resolves to cut back on swearing by creating a whole list of AvatarTheLastAirbender swears (in the style of Wizard Swears). It includes standard growls like "son of Azula", "what the platypus bear?!", "may Koh watch over you tonight", and "go endanger Katara in front of Aang". It also includes classics such as "ZUKO'S TINY PENIS!" and "Sparky-Sparky Boom Man's broken floral-print teapot!" ** This troper also adopted swearing by Agni instead of God ("For Agni's sake") as a result of Avatar. * This Troper and friends spent a free period in middle school playing the card game [[strike:Bullshit]] Bolshevik. ** This troper personally [[DirtyCommunists considers that word]] ''[[DirtyCommunists too dirty to use]]'' even as an obscenity. ** This troper, at her conservative Catholic elementary school, played Big Sister. It took me years to realise what the game was supposed to be called. * [[{{SMDeathwind}} This troper]] and a group of people he sits near in Science spent todays lesson substituting swears for elements of the periodic table. He, at least, intends to Zincing keep it up. (Elements used may vary) * This troper, having recently finished [[GravitysRainbow Gravity's Rainbow]], has taken to using examples from the scene where Bodine and Mexico escape being cannibalized by thinking of the grossest humanbased alliterative dishes they can think of and squicking out the would-be cannibals. "Oh, pus pudding! Barf boullion! ''Menstrual marmalade!''" * This troper's friend enjoys using rule 34 as a substitute for F*** . "Rule 34 with you and an especially ''large'' whale!" is one of my favorites. * After a particularly interesting Chinese-themed costume murdermystery birthday party, this troper has taken "jumping rope" to mean sex. ** [[NoodleIncident Please tell us]]. * "Oh shitsune!" "What the [[FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]]?" * "What the buttsecks?" * In a recent effort to get more interesting exclamations of surprise, This Troper decided to use medieval oaths - 'forsooth' and 'upon my halidem!' being personal favourites.

* Noone else with such classics as "Fluck it!" and "Well, fit..." * BryceBryans has a friend who works with many people in a church and is unable to get away with saying [[spoiler: Goddammit]] and instead says "Bob Saget!" as it has the same number of syllables. * What in the name of Primus, Unicron, and the Allspark? ("The Matrix" optional) Transformers swears sound close enough to their real counterparts to this troper, and they're versatile! Some of her favorites are "Frag it all to pit!" "Slag on a frag" and "Go interface with your motherboard." She also plans, at some point to break out with a "Bah weep graaaanagh weep ni ni bong" to her classmates, complete with hand gestures. ** This troper uses Transformer swears too, and has referred to her (ancient, cantankerous) computer as a "fragging glitch-ridden hunk of slag" on more than one occasion. * This troper once called her ''computer'' a "scaly six-headed bastard offspring of a thousand first-cousin marriages." * Within this troper's circle, "sweeping the feathers" is equal to "Having sex." Don't ask. * I use bi-lingual "smr mig" (butter me, it's nonsense) for "Oh me" (obviously not a curse); Translated from Sweden to my native Finnish, "Smr mig" becomes "Voi minua", "Voi" meaning "butter" but also being a homonym for "oh". * [[DaNuke Da_Nuke]], after watching the Canadian French film ''Bon Cop Bad Cop'', has started using literal translations of Qubecois euphemisms, which happen to fit this trope ''just fine''. Examples: "Host of tabernacle!" means "Fucking shit!", and "I chalice myself" means "I don't give a fuck". ** His latest euphemism is "Jurgenbergen" for "dick". Explanation: "dick" -> "verga" in Spanish -> "Bergen" -> "Jurgenbergen". ** Also, "V-3" for "asshat": ''asshat'' -> ''verguero'' in Spanish -> ''V-3''. * [[JethroQWalrustitty This Troper]], when working at a kindergarden used mild German expletives, Donnerwetter being a favourite. * This Troper uses the word 'Kittens' instead of an expletive, and uses expression like 'Kiznit!' (meaning 'That's the kittens isn't it?', instead of 'That's the sh* t, isn't it?') into. She also uses her cat's names, and cat's genealogy (which has ended up with things like 'Sweet Dusty, mother of Coolcat, mother of Tamsin!'). Yes. * This troper's mother and aunt share some family euphemisms, among them, "Foot!" which when uttered by these women can sound quite horrific. Another favorite is "Bung", used for more extreme curcumstances. There is also a family story that a coworker of my uncle's (a commercial airline pilot) was chastized for shouting "Jesus Christ!" on a plane. After a moment of thought, he amended himself in the form of "Cheese and rice!" * Back at school, this troper was once discussing a certain teacher's [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean anatomy]] with a friend when the teacher ''turned round'' and asked what we were talking about. The friend blurted out "...Dead tigers?" It immediately became a euphemism: the deader the tiger, the hotter the ass. * [[SephlidJam This troper's]] (non-religious) favorites: "Well, Rock me Amadeus!" and "What in the name of the German alternative Rock

group Falco?" And he's still trying come up with more obscure references to exploit... any ideas? * This troper also uses common book-swearing language to make up for her profanity-dislike and atheism. "Stinking", "blast" or "blasted", "thrice-cursed", "bloody", and "Geez" (sometimes pronounced as "jise", which has a long story involving an Irish book character behind it). Sometimes this troper also swears literally using books, since they more or less replace a deity for her. "Books curse you", "may the books protect you", and "I swear by the books" are a few she's actually used aloud. ** [[ThinksTooMuch I]] [[SeparatedAtBirth always knew I had a sister!]] * In a moment of great stress, reaching for words that properly expressed her sentiments, this troper once shrieked "UTI and menses!" If you're a woman who's ever had a bladder infection, you will know just how bad things had gotten. * At one point I yelled out "Shit!" in gym class. After getting a disapproving glare from the teacher, I quickly added "...Ake mushroom!" ("Shiitake mushroom") Also, after my friend muttered "Fuck Yukes" while playing ''FinalFantasyCrystalChronicles'', we used "Fuck Yuke!" for a while, which didn't make much sense and eventually underwent MemeticMutation into "Yuke you!" * This troper cuts out the middleman and just swears in gibberish. It's good for ranting too. * [[{{Malus}} This troper]] used to censor "son of a bitch" with "son of a lich". This swear now has its own separate meaning close to a harsher "[[EldritchAbomination freak of nature]]". * This troper long ago decided that instead of calling people or things "stupid", he would call them "special". As in "Stop acting Special!" * My social group has adopted the term "Book" to describe any girl you'd go to Special Hell for. (I'm fairly certain ''Firefly'' was involved in the naming process.) This has led to a slew of increasingly depraved spin-off terms, such as [[DroppedABridgetOnHim "plot twist,"]] "library," "book of the month club," and my personal favorite, "Will you teach me how to read?" Yes, we're horrible people. ** Let me guess: Library = brothel, book of the month club = {{Aversion}} of NoPeriodsPeriod, that last = pickup line. Yes? * A group I used to belong to always got a booth at the local Renaissance Faire. We also tended to wear Middle Eastern/bellydance costume due to the normal weather during that Faire. This resulted in comments about one of our (African-American) female members and her "tremendous tracts of fudge". * This toper has adopted "frag", "[[StarWars kriff]]", "[[DungeonsAndDragons Vecna's eye!]]", and "[[{{Warhammer40000}} zog]]" as expletives. Mind you, he's sufficiently geeky that he greets people with "[[StarCraft En taro Adun!]]", which may go some way towards an explanation. * [[JuiceBoxHero This troper]] is fond of [[FinalFantasyVI "Son of a submariner"]] and "Son of a biscuit" to mean "son of a bitch", and "Sweet Robot Jesus" to mean "Jesus Christ". Her other ones are "lilylover" to mean "fag" or "pussy", and "dicklooper", which is used in

the same way as "asshole" or "motherfucker". The last one, perhaps because it describes an anatomically impossible sex act ([[spoiler:Looping one's erect penis back into [[ScrewYourself their own anus]], which is pretty [[{{Squick}} squicky]] if you ask me]]), has become quite popular with my classmates. * This troper has recently started using exclamations such as "Magnificent Swaziland Mamooths!" and "[[MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail Holy hand grenade]]!" * This troper, an atheist socialist, replaces religious cursing with Roman deities or socialists, such as "Jupesdamnit", "Jupiter above!", "For the love of Marx", " Sweet Lenin, Marx, and all the Engels!" ** That last one is pretty epic. * This troper is also interested in historical costuming, and is on several e-mail discussion lists related to it. Whenever someone has a question about proper fitting of corsets or codpieces, we get a flood of euphemisms as people try to help out without tripping porn spam filters. * This troper dosen't use conventional profanity, as it has gone through badass decay. "Cold Fire" is an expliciative, as is "blood" (usually three times in a row), and "cursed coward" is my insult of choice. * This troper and her friends have turned the word "rabbit" into slang for "penis". You're better off not asking. ** Man, now Elmer Fudd seems dirty. * This troper overdid it on Middle English literature and ended up with an entire ''vocabulary'' full of amusing medieval euphemisms for sex. It's much more entertaining to say "They had privy draughts" than it is to say "They did it." * This troper was at a punk concert recently, and saw a couple of idiots try and pick a fight. It was amusing to see an extremely large, extremely drunk fratboy scream insults like, "You're a total penis!" * This troper sometimes says "aw, nuggets" when frustrated. It's a [[GoshdangItToHeck minced]] shortening of "crapnuggets". * This Tropette yells, "Picard!" when frustrated. I don't even like Star Trek. * This troper is infamous among his friends for outright insane epithets, including "Eyeball Christ!" (commonly theorized to be a kind of Beholder Jesus), "Nosebadgering Stoats", and a grand spectrum of curses built from terms such as monkeys, goats, toilets, cheese, arses, and cannons, engaged in such verbs as summoning, blasting, lancing, invoking, and launching, frequently prefixed with phrases like "thrice-cursed". * This troper seems to have aided in the invention of the epithet "hellnonce". They're a nonce. In hell. (Or possibly from hell.) ** This troper claims this term as her own (though you indeed corrected my spelling of 'nonce', which is integral). A 'hellnonce' is a demon pedophile. Or if one chooses, a general all-around dickwad. Is that term copyrighted as well? * Just for variety, I every so often add 'If You Know What I Mean' to entirely innocent phrases. An example: "I'm just going to sit on the sofa, if you know what I mean!" After a friend asked what I was doing, this inevitably led to "I'm creating unusual euphemisms, if you know

what I mean?" Also, while casual swearing is the thing of everyday, in moments of extreme distress, I revert to more latinate and colourful swearing. 'Oh merciful son of a mothering lamb in the season of plenty!' And even better. * [[{{Laburnum}} This troper]] (being a nerd) is fonding of using {{Cthulhu Mythos}}-inspired euphemism instead of real swears. This habit has produced such gems as "Dear sweet Cthulhu!" and "Spawn of a Shoggoth [or Mi-Go or Deep One]!" and "Azathoth curse it!" * This troper has been known to use the actual word 'swear' on occasion, generally as a mild exclaimation of frustration (the exactly usage is usually along the lines of "gah, swear, swear, swear, swear"). ** This troper writes "expletive deleted" in her diary when she can't think of anything more creative. * I'd [[{{Bleach}} Quincy]] that [[FateStayNight Archer]], if you know what I mean. Oh, and I know I just ''clicked'' something new in your mind. If not, hover over the links and ''enjoy the service''. * This troper and her friend once held a contest to see what is the most unusual euphemism they could come up with. The two they came up with were "Did she smoke your salmon?" and "Did she film your funeral?". We are still trying to work out why the latter one is funny... ** Allow a random stranger on the Internet to explain it for you: in Elizabethan times, the term "die" was a known euphemism for "orgasm". So wouldn't filming a funeral be watching you orgasm? *** So what would ceremonially annointing the body be, [[ADateWithRosiePalms bukkake]]? Anyway, in [[http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/The_Belch_Dimension_Comics my series]] one character uses the phrase "Great fagots afire!"--burning sticks of wood, not gay folks--often. Also, several [[AmusingAlien extraterrestrial characters]] swear by the deities of their homeworld, The Father, Mother, and Exalted Daughter: "Good Haeleom's diadem!" "By Calaeshe's powderbox!" "Great Flungraeus' vomit-stained beard!" * It turns out that "Welter" is a synonym for roll. -->'''Troper and fellow incredibly white friends''': Yo, dis how we welter! * This troper's been known to come out with "Jeepers Cripes", "Gravy", "Sweet Gravy", and once, "Sweet Gravy Gods". When she was younger, it was "Son of a one-eyed warlock". * [[{{Edge-of-Oblivion}} Guilty as charged]]... common ones include "frack", "frell", "fridge", [[VideoGame/{{Super Mario RPG}} "Fungah!"]], [[{{Call of Cthulhu}} "fhtagn!"]], [[{{Firefly}} "gorram"]], [[{{Planescape Torment}} "piking"]], "bloody bleeding (insert noun here)", [[{{Eight Bit Theater}} "sweet zombie (insert noun here)"]], [[{{Final Fantasy VI}} "son of a submariner"]], [[{{Final Fantasy VIII}} "Lunatic Pandora!!"]], [[{{Looking For Group}} "Oh For Pony's sake!"]], [[{{Finders Keepers}} "Compass and Cross!"]], and [[{{Dominic Deegan}} "Curse You (person's name here) Spoon!"]] All of the above mostly due to general geekiness and a dislike of cursing... probably the closest I get to regularly swearing is using "Damn" frequently (though [[{{Getting Crap Past the Radar}} not around my parents, it doesn't fly]]) and regular use of "Jesus

Crimony". [[{{Edge-of-Oblivion}} This troper]]'s brother is exceptionally fond of exclaiming [[{{Calvin and Hobbes}} "Chumblespuzz!!"]] when frustrated. * This troper prides herself on coming up with extremely unusual expletives, her current favorite is: Fried chinchilla sold at the county fair on a Popsicle stick. They often include monkeys, fudge, cream sauce, or light syrups. * [[{{Night}} This Troper]] and a few friends use "kittens" to refer to committing various acts of evil in EVEOnline, based on the motto of a previous corp involving "spreading hate, discontent, and free kittens across New Eden." * This troper's friends use a wide variety of strange phrases, most notably "son of a beesting" and "Haterade". * In addition to FutureSlang profanities, this troper has been known to use "mother scratcher", "son of a motherless goat", "unholy son of a hooker", "crap in a hatbox", "cattywhompus", and "shastakovich." He was unaware of how strange these phrases sounded to other people, until a psychiatry student asked if he was suffering from a form of aphasia. * [[{{WallofIllusion}} This troper]], in addition to using slang pilfered from whatever series she's into at the time ([[TheWorldEndsWithYou zetta]]'s the current one), has also taken to using "chocolate" in situations that would otherwise somehow take the Lord's name in vain. "For the love of chocolate," "for chocolate's sake," "chocolate forbid".... that last one doesn't work so well, but whatever. * [[{{Nerrin}} This troper]] tends to drop random syllables a lot when frustrated but needs to avoid using the normal profanities, especially during the time he worked in a toy store. He also tends to mutter, "Depths of the bloody Abyss," when he'd otherwise say some version of "What the ____". Rarely, he swears by various gods both real and imaginary, or simply mutters, "Chaos!" when overwhelmed by random happenstance. * {{Anomaly}} also avoids standard "What the ____" phrases, but simply by replacing the offending word with something that starts with H. Most common are "What the hegemony!" and "What the henchman!" In addition, on a forum he once used the exclamation "Son of a plasma rifle!" * This troper one day inexplicably came up with "No spit, spurlock", most likely loosely inspired by Morgan Spurlock of Super Size Me fame. He and a friend also jokingly used "duck" and "shift" as expletives for a little while last fall. And then there was his main NationStates nation, in which those citizens that spoke English tended to say "fronk", "frunk", or "frake" in place of typical profanity. * If anyone in this Troper's family needs to go to the bathroom at a restaurant, we say we "need an Italian Lesson". ** This troper's family had "visit the library," especially for when you need to find a bathroom when traveling. * This Troper once worked with a particularly potty-mouthed lighting designer who would, in the presence of the director/freshmen/child actors, would censor himself with gems like "fustercluck" and "mmph mmph mmmph".

* At Nekocon larp of 2008 (in which congoers are roleplaying as assorted anime characters and enjoying the chaos that ensues), a girl playing Tayuya from Naruto (a character known for her foul mouth) wound up getting a flute that would enhance her stats well beyond the flute she started with (and uses for her attacks). The catch? The flute would also actively censor her. The player roleplayed this to the hilt, using unusual euphemisms in character and had the [=GMs=] and other players in stitches. * [[MutantRancor This troper]] prefers StarWars curses. "Kriff you in the shebs, you mother-lubing mudcrutch son of a stanged Sithspawn Kath hound and a fierfek Hutt-slime nerf herder!" is a perfect example. There are others (about 200), but that just about gets all the ones I use. Oh, and "What the frizz?!" * As part of an admittely belaboured joke in response to people not wanting me to swear, when at the university I used to swear by various Dr Strange entities, usually Satannish, Raggadorr and Hoggoth. People would just stare at me if they noticed at all, but one teacher (who was American) noticed and had a laughing fit at "Hoggoths hriga horder!". * Non-profanity example: [[TsundeRay This troper]] uses "fail in my pants" as a euphemism for [[AllLoveIsUnrequited failing with the opposite sex]]. * This Troper has on one or two occasions used the term "menstrual intercourse" in place of [[spoiler:"bloody fuck."]] * For this Troper and his friend, the act of observing attractive females is known as "Unreading" * "I'm not going to finish this sentence" came to be used as a verb referring to sex when said sex is squicky. As in, I I'mnotgoingtofinishthissentenceed my cousin, or He cut a hole in her head and then I'mnotgoingtofinishtissentenceed it. * This troper's rather fond of saying "Doom" in as [[InvaderZim Zimlike]] a way possible when frustrated. He's also adapted about half the curses on this page; "shittake" seems to be a personal favorite, usually prefaced with "Oi." * Inversion: This troper came across a video review of an Xbox 360 game that referred to the twin sticks on the controller as "nipples." * This troper has a whole hoast of these, his most favorite being "bobsaget!" (intended to be spelled as one word). This even caught on with his teachers and friends, and was signed into his yearbook by classmates (as well as into theirs by him). Also used by this troper is "Piece of controler!" for "piece of shit!" (taken from a YouTube Poop of the Angry Video Game Nerd in which they sentance-mixed him to say "This SHIT is a piece of CONTROLER!" instead of the other way around); and "Son of a mother's lover!" taken from a MADtv sketch featuring Coach Hines. This troper used to be fond of using "frag" on occasion for various exclamations (although not as an f-bomb substitue), and also uses "lady of ill repute" sometimes to refer to prositutes (even when writing down cheat codes for Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas). However, the CrowningMomentOfAwesome came from this troper when he started using "homozygous" for "homosexual", i.e. somthing being "gay" (such as, "That sounds pretty homozygous!"). Who said chemistry class had no benifits?

** In addition, this troper will use "What the crap?" for whatever What the ____ exclamation * [[{{Kaizykat}} This Troper]] has gotten odd looks on more than one occasion. To avoid a ClusterFBomb , she uses "Frick." Pretty normal, right? Not until she shouts "Holy Flaming Poop!" or "Jesus Christ and a kumquat!" do people begin to wonder about her. Granted, the last one is a bit of a subversion, but still. * This troper refuses to curse,so she uses substitutes. However,sometimes,it just sounds odd,since she often uses food names. * This troper uses many an unusual euphemism. Some of the more common (and translations) follow. ** By the Emperor!: Jesus Christ!/Holy Shit! ** Helshin!: Fuck, Shit, Crap. ** FSK: Fuck (more empathic than above) ** Frag: Crap, Shit, Balls. Any euphemism which means "Well, that went badly." ** Defrag: As the above means "Well that went badly." this means "Hell yes, that went great." ** Nuke: Fuck up. As in "That's fucked up." becomes "That's nuked." or "That's nuclear." * This troper tends to do this a lot. She will replace the f-word by the Smeg or [[{{Erfworld}} Boop]]. She will also swear on [[{{OrderoftheStick}} The Dark One's]] name once in a while, or use the equivalent of "Bloody fudge buckets!" on her native language. * Out loud, this Troper usually uses common not-quite-swear-words. Online though, I have a whole repitoire of {{Unusual Euphemism}}s. They're mostly context-based, depending on what online game I'm playing (or what forum I'm posting on). Nonstandard expletives show up the most on Roblox, which has a text-chat filter, yet isn't limited to a chat dictionary like Toontown. Three I've picked up from Roblox itself are "What the content deleted?!" and all variations thereof ("[=[ Content Deleted ]=]" is the autofilter replacement for anything that is censored. Normally, it replaces the entire text field, but saying it in a sentence makes it known that it's for fun.), "WHAT THE BRICK?!?" (actually found at someone's level, and has possibly become an official Roblox expletive!), and using "[[GratuitousJapanese atarashii-jin]]" ?????? as a replacement for "noob" (has to be romanji because in-game, Roblox doesn't accept kana input). Many of my other euphemisms originated in videogames (such as "Oh crag" from ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario''), TV shows (such as "[[TransformersAnimated slag]]"), and occassionally a website (the only one that comes to mind is "[[HomestarRunner pfargtl]]"). Only time (and number of {{Wiki Walk}}s) will tell when I pick up a euphemism from this wiki... * This troper, thanks to [[FanNickname/TabletopGames this page]], has begun referring to stupid wizarding moves (see also, a fair chunk of HarryPotter's activities) as "stupid caltrop" moments. * This troper has come up with some astounding lines over the years, some of which stuch for common use. To whit: ** Flonq (Thank you, Cable) ** Tears of Lilith (Unusual, but then I AM a Lilith-worshipper) ** Stuff and Fluff (Thank you, Pooh Bear)

** Damn it all to hell and back with a little pink cigar! (No idea, and not sure I want to remember the situation which led to THAT exclamation) * In high school, a friend of mine very annoyed with some other random guy asked him if he (I try to translate) "couldn't, please, go away to make himself a nuisance to his very dear mother?" (in original Spanish, for those who want it: "Podra usted, por favor, ir a importunar a su queridisima madre?"). Somehow, the tone of anger he delivered that very phrase made it way funnier that if he had actually used the more profane and unambiguous form of the request. * This troper refers to female->male rape/dom porn as "green border," consensual stuff as "yellow border," and male->female rape/dom porn as "red border." The colored border thing comes from ''Border Down'', a ShootEmUp that combines the traditional spare-life mechanic and DynamicDifficulty into the three-color border system. * This troper uses "By the blood of the [[Warcraft Highborne]]!" whenever annoyed by something/someone. * This Troper's Dungeons and Dragons group has "rolling the dice" as one for masturbation. (long story short: one guy was prepping his roll under the table) ** Which, sadly, reminds this troper of a friend who consistently rolled natural twenties on masturbation checks. And it was started by something similar to the above, and when the GM took notice he told the player to roll the first one. Which then became an unfortunate RunningGag. * This troper and her friend often use the word "feck" as a substitute for "fuck", resulting in several rather mangled acronyms: "wtfeck, stfecku", and similar. Obviously, we could just leave it as an f, but that wouldn't be bizarre enough. * "Shit" = "[[FourIsDeath 4]]t". * This troper grew up around Protestant Christians, so she has to resort to this around most of her friends (although it's really more about not upsetting said friends' parents). Her usual substitutes for 'God' are various fictional characters of [[PhysicalGod godlike]] [[RealityWarper power]], including [[HaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi]], {{minus}}, and [[TouhouProject Yukari]]. For other interjections, however, she usually uses "Oh, poop" or just [[GoshDangItToHeck Gosh Dangs It To Heck]]. * I use "Holy sith(spit)" and, more recently, "132". 132 was spawned after learning finger binary and being very amused at it all. * This troper was a bit of a prude for half of the seventh grade. She frequently used the words 'jiska' 'son of a Gungfairyen' and 'sherbet lemon' as curses. People were vastly amused by this and kept trying to get her to 'swear for real.' Eventually she caved, due to homophobic jerks in need of chastisement. (She tried using curses from [[CliveBarker Abarat]] for a day in the fifth grade and was met with confused looks from her friends. 'Nevernow' and 'A'zo and Cha!' are not effective verbally.) * This troper's sister has taken to saying 'Son of a diddly' thanks to a certain animated television show. This troper herself has become fond of 'Holy flark' or 'son of a flarkin' seraph!'. When she has the prescence of mind, she will say inane things such as 'Son of a soul

sucking seraph!' or 'Son of a soup slurping sasquach!' It's the aliteracy that matters. * This troper used to voice SymbolSwearing with a sound that approximated "blblblblbl." He later went to using gas station names ("What the Mobil?") and currently goes for either "bleep" or random gibberish. * [[Market43Fan ThisTroper]] just heard an unusual variant of the standard "doggone it" phrase during a football game a cousin of mine was playing in. Following a couple of lousy calls (the officials were horrible that night), I could hear said cousin's mother screaming "Dog BITE it!" * "Fsck" is a common substitute for "fuck" in Unix/Linux circles, being derived from the file-system check command. As fsck is a very powerful file-system repair tool, a corrupted system that can't be fixed with fsck is, well... * This Troper is a longtime DungeonsAndDragons player, and went through a period of calling breasts "armor kitties." * This troper used "cake" as a euphemism for "fuck" for a while, until he got tired of explaining the joke (it's from the Pokmon fanfiction "Tales of Flame). Then he switched off for "frag" which makes for great fun when playing online {{Halo}}. ** Above troper here. He's noticed that he's started saying things like "Goddess dammit!" and "By the gods!" or "For pizza's sake!" to avoid using the Lord's name in vain. * In addition to various PardonMyKlingon interjections, this troper has been known to yell "EXPLETIVE!" * [[HawkW This troper]] likes to swear in Latin ("YOU MATRIFORNICATOR!") and often replaces 'Hell!' with the names of Dante's layers thereof. "By Thor's Hammer!" is a long-running favorite as well. He's also trying to memorize all of the patron saints so that he can swear by them whenever possible. He's an atheist. * After a long discussion about how this troper did not agree with her friend's thesis on sociopaths, anyone who exhibits disturbing and/or violent behaviour became known as a Green M&M. Don't ask. * This troper sometimes substitutes "Bolshevism" for "bullshit" among more tender-eared folk. She also throws out the words "frap" and "diddly" randomly, sometimes even while cussing up a blue streak. It's almost unconscious. "Diddlyfuck!" Yeah. * [[LordDemala I]] don't really swear, but instead I use euphemisms. My favorite euphemism is ''Fudge Butter'', which I use as a euphemism for the f-word. * A couple of my friends now refer to gay sex as "eating dinner," due to another friend's common excuse for being unavailable: eating dinner at (lolcensor)'s house. * [[ShaeraAngeli I]] have a tendency to use 'fzzt' as a euphemism, and thanks to a friend believing it sounded like a euphemism, "forsooth"! * This troper uses shoot em as a Euphemism for sex. HilarityEnsues when a friend suggests playing a shoot em up game, which means a particular type of sex. I usually respond with, "Yeah, I wouldn't mind..." * This troper is well acquainted with a young lady who swears by exclaiming [[{{Supernatural}} KRIP! ...ke.]]

* I used to use [[PardonMyKlingon Klingon]] or FutureSlang. Now I make up my own. "Great bloody circles of eternal fire!" is popular. For sexual euphemisms, some severe MemeticMutation lead to "cookies" being an euphemism for lesbian sex in my circle of friends (and vice versa). Yes, specifically lesbian. HilarityEnsues whenever someone says ''anything at all'' involving a literal cookie. Theories [[GenderBender get]] [[DroppedABridgetOnHim interesting]] when a guy blunders. - and now that some LesYay has gotten a RelationshipUpgrade, just stay away from the baked items. * This troper actually uses 'Euphemism': "EUPHEMISM YOU!", "We are so euphemismed!", "We're about to get all Euphemistic!!" * This troper uses 'Foo'. Leads to getting some strange looks when in public, when people think she's going to say something different. * This troper's group of WoW buddies had an inside joke where if someone asked someone else to bring them a cheesecake, it meant "I want to have sex with you." It came from one particular buddy who told a tale from his college days... this girl had a huge crush on him, and at one point said something to the effect of "if you bring me a cheesecake I'll sleep with you." He did, and they slept together. This troper does not recall the exact context of what caused her to say this, but the point is still the same. "Bring me cheesecake" = "screw me, baby." * This troper has the dubious honour of inventing a euphemism for being gay- A friend mentioned Freddie Mercury, and I just felt like using the phrase "He's got a bridge to sell you," and the two were somehow connected. She is also prone to generating run-on sentences involving the words "cat," "pancakes," "bucket," and many others. This has resulted in such gems as "CATS ON A PANCAKE RIDING A POGO STICK ON A STEAMBOAT ''NAMED FREDERICK.''" where many people would simply say "DAMN IT." * Professional terminology has is uses for hidden insults: ** In medical terms cervical vertebrae (i.e. the vertebrae in your neck), are abbreviated with "C1" to "C7" with C1 being the topmost. Above C1 is the head, so a patient who is "diagnosed" with a C-ZeroProblem has an acute case of stupidity. ** "Prescribe a course of high-velocity transcortical lead therapy", which translates to "Shoot the patient in the head". ** IT People have the similar "ISO/OSI Layer 8 Problem" which is another way of saying that the problem is sitting in front of the monitor. *** Also, "ID-Ten-T Error", and "PEBKAC Error" ("Problem exists between keyboard and chair"). * {{Excel-2010}}. If I'm asked where I'm going and I don't feel like telling them, I say that I'm "[[http://www.lrcomic.com/index.php?strip_id=425 going to the dentist]]". * This troper's father has used the euphemism "TheJonasBrothers" to refer to testicles... Don't ask I really don't know. * This troper uses a whole battery of them, ranging from the fairly pedestrian "bloody", "frelling", "feckin'" and "dad-burn-it", to more unique ones like "chaos and fire" or "shades, angel, what were you thinking?". * This troper typically uses actual swears and thus never falls under

this, although once at band practice she heard "shut the front door" used for "shut the fuck up". * This troper and her friends somehow took to saying "I'm going to go swipe some hubcaps" to announce a visit to the bathroom. * [[JET73L This Troper]]'s father tends to use "rat spit", being [[UnusualDysphemism the diminutive form of the name of some demon]] in a series he reads. Said troper mostly sticks with forms of [[{{Scrubs}} frick]] and [[{{Firefly}} frack]], "[[LooneyTunes Rassafrassa]] grumble mumble", [[{{TroperTales/OhMyGods}} various forms of]] OhMyGods, and nonsense syllables that mostly resemble a CurseOfTheAncients or [[GoshDangItToHeck pseudocurse]]. * [[{{X2X}} This Troper]] is currently enrolled in an AP English class and being (re)introduced to various "[[YourMileageMayVary famous]]" works of literature. Lines like "[[{{Othello}} Goats and monkeys!]]" and "[[{{Othello}} Strumpet!]]" are very common now. Before that, there was "Fragadero!" (the Spanish word for "sink"). * This troper and her friends call vibrators Dead Babies. You see This troper's friend's mother had to deliver something to a female friend while we were in the car, it was in a black bag inside of a box. Many jokes were made about it being a dead baby until friend's mother finally said it was a vibrator out loud. Of course we already knew but.....it stuck. As such we now call dead babies deceased infants. Surprisingly a lot of people we know seem to like to talk about dead babies...... * Oh, this troper's friends love this trope... ** Her cousin refers to visible nipples as "Turkey's done!" ** A Chemistry class discussion of a news story about a student having an affair with his teacher led to the immortal "Talk about Advanced Placement!" ** Several friends went through a phase of saying "Aww, sit!" ** This troper will reluctantly admit to using Shakespearean quotes as insults when she was in middle school. This troper was (and is, but to a lesser extent) ridiculously nerdy. * A couple years back, this troper's class read the Odyssey. She still can't say "sea-hollowed caves" without giggling. (Odysseus spent some time in Calypso's, or so I heard. Ahem.) * [[@/{{MiraShio}} ... effcracker frazzle fuzz.]] ** And then this: -->'''LoveInterest''': *sees friend with hands in pockets* You're not taking your [=MASTERals=] over there, are you? -->'''Me''': He's taking his [=MASTERals=] along with his [=BAchelors=]. * This troper uses the words "Fark" "Sheet". As well as using "Naga"/"The Three Nagas" instead of God due to his personal mock religion. "By the Three Nagas what the FARK is going on here!?". There's also the running joke of "Masticating the Bolus" which technically means eating [[IncrediblyLamePun but is used as a euphamism for something else.]] * This troper loves unusual and funny euphemisms, and has come up with quite a few that he hasn't seen mentioned above: ** During a geology unit of science class, this troper came up with the idea of using "schist" as a minced oath after having identified a

rock sample as a "piece of schist." ** When this troper used to play ''PuzzlePirates'', he developed an affinity for exclaiming "Scupperin' succotash!" in a cross between [[LooneyTunes Sylvester]]'s CatchPhrase and the in-game "piratey" swear filter. ** "file system check" - i.e. the Unix/Linux "fsck". ** "posterior orifice" - can work pretty well as a StealthInsult. * This troper's favorite insult is "Devil's Spawn". Also, whenever she can't answer a question, she expresses this by saying a random word like "fire" or "coal". Her friends were surprisingly quick to catch on. * [[TheWhovianZorker This troper]] is a programmer who has developed a habit of saying "Glitch!" when his code doesn't work (based on an unusual 'droid in a StarWars [[ExpandedUniverse novel]] who didn't respond well to being routed in circles). He also has been known to use "Fudge!" (from {{Zork}} II) and, in particularly annoying circumstances, "Fudge on a popsicle stick!" He occasionally comments that the country (or the world) is "going to purgatory in a perambulator." Way back in high school (more than 20 years ago) he knew a fellow gaming/SF geek who tended to use "Son of a [[StarWars mynock]]!" * This troper's father likes to use "Scrud!" This troper herself tends to borrow [[{{Scrubs}} "Frick on a stick!"]] and [[{{Friends}} Ross's fistbump]], and once told her mother to "hold your fuzzy horses!". * When I was very young, my mother refered to shit as "gruntle". She also refered to both male and female genitalia as "tiddles". * [[{{Fishsicles}} This Troper]] and his friends, generally when discussing something not viewed positively by TheMan, had a strange inside joke where we would ALL CAPS "[[GratuitousGerman AUF DEUTSCH!]]" before continuing the conversation in broken German. Nowadays, AUF DEUTSCH! means "I got it from [=BitTorrent=]". ** Also, "Don't be a scrotum" was used for a while: right between a dick and an ass. ** And, of course, "[[TroperTales/PublicMediumIgnorance they will be amazed]]" to refer to anything with massive levels of HighOctaneNightmareFuel... especially ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''. * Several kids at this troper's high school say things like "Mother function!" * A weird tradition at my school is to use "Eleven" in place of any profanity; in front of Teachers, usually. * Somehow, among this troper's friends, "talking about Hamlet" came to mean sex. No one can remember how this happened, but it's probably this troper's fault. * I've used the term "for fat's sake" at least once, but that's more because I'm [[{{Malaproper}} The Malaproper]] than because I intended to use an unusual euphemism. Normally, if I can't swear, I use the Homestarism "sit on a biscuit," oddly harsh sounding words ("You rhombus!") or, on occasion, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsole arsole]]. * This troper once used "cabbage" to replace words like s*** . His college uses "junk". Kind of unsettling when you realize that junk is

also an euphemism for penis. "Oh, penis!" * What the nonsense?; flicking (to reference [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLICK_OFF this]])/freaking shunk (always mispronounced "junk"); holy [[HomestarRunner whatsit]]... * A friend of this Troper's Father, at Astronomy Club, used to be a firefighter -- and when he was in charge of the brigade, he tried to actively discourage those under his command from cussing in front of "civillians". So in place of the S and F bombs, he introduced the word, "actual". So you'd get something like, "my actual keys have gone missing!" This Troper's Father suggested "actuality" for a verb equivalent. So insteading of something like "What in the effing eff are you on about?", you'd end up with, "what in the actual actuality are you on about?" And it still (mostly) makes sense. :3 This Troper now can't hear the word "actual" (or its related words) without dissolving into a fit of the giggles. * At an RP that this troper was in, two characters were discussing dying a virgin. [[WideEyedIdealist My character]] brought up Issac Newton and how he didn't do too bad for himself, considering that he supposedly died a virgin. [[HandsomeLech The other person's character]] said he would have been more awesome if he'd actually had sex, and mine responded with, "What, like it would have activated superpowers?" The other person's response was, [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean "I bet I could activate your superpowers."]] * This Troper's RP group has taken to using 'sanding' as a sexual euphemism. We've had many a laugh about people trying to [[ADateWithRosiePalms smooth their wood]]. Needless to say, the resident carpenter NPC had a field day when he found out. * This troper just heard someone say "What the French?!" when he found out something surprising. He claimed it was "What the French Toast," but... * This troper's school video games club has spawned "summoning a rhino" for cheating or being a JerkAss, and "buying candy" for having sex, coming from a rather meta conversation about this very topic where we were trying to alienate a friend in the most bizarre way possible. "Velociraptor" is an all-purpose swear. * This troper once witnessed someone on a forum refer to 'rectal haberdashery'. * In an effort to remember various portions of the periodic table, this troper began using them as curse words. * This troper has "Aw, fudgeloaf". * "Using your intelligence" has become an unusual euphemism for having sex between [[{{Kaizykat}} this Troper]] and her friends. However, she would like to give a little bit more background information. Her class read WaitingForGodot in their English class. One of her classmates asked their teacher if the two main [[{{HoYay}} characters were together.]] Her teacher said no, and the class went on. Later in the class, her teacher pointed out that the play uses some very strange stage directions such as "Valdimar uses his intelligence". Since there was an erection gag not half a page before the stage direction... Between the comments from her classmate and her teacher, her mind naturally defaulted to it's natural state. * After a particularly...''interesting'' conversation with a friend,

this troper now uses the term "blogging" instead of "masturbating." * I thought up "Do you wanna verb my noun?" and "I'm going to verb her like an adjective noun!", but I never get to use them, because they don't work quite that well in German... [[spoiler: The main reason is that you can't turn "Verb" into a verb in German because it will sound like the existing verb "werben"... generally, in German every word signalizes its type, which makes such jokes harder to use.]] * There is a home video from 9/11 in which several young adults in a high-rise apartment witness the second plane hitting the Twin Towers. The most shocking, horrifying, unexpected sight one could witness, yet amidst the screams the worst expletives that can be heard are along the lines of, "Oh, gosh!" or "Oh, my golly!" When I first saw it, my initial thought was, "What are these people...Amish?" * To this troper, any old series of unintelligible noises work excellent for swears, especially around authority figures. "Gah Fragnabaflargle!" is a personal favorite. * After a visit to The Macaroni Grill, where language tapes play in the restrooms, this troper's family has taken to using the phrase 'learning Italian' in place of 'going to the bathroom'. * Thiz troper was once discussing sex with her father. At one point, she exclaimed "OH MY GOD YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT". Her younger sister walked in and asked what it was that he didm't know. This troper said " that Everybody Loves Raymond ended a few years ago." * My sister and I started referring to having sex as "playing tag" after watching [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dtCoe7sMIQ this cutscene]] from [[TalesoftheAbyss Tales of the Abyss]]. * I've used some strange words and phrases as curse words, including "jar of alabaster ointment!" and "flibbertijibet!" * "I don't give a tiny french crouton!" * This troper's personal euphemism, at least when playing [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic nomic]], is "fluxx", as a pun on "fuck" and the slightly nomic-like game [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluxx Fluxx]]. * This troper was once playing a video game against his cousin. When said cousin pulled a particularly clever trick to win the match, this troper jokingly replied with the phrase "Son of an ''aunt''"[[hottip:* : [[DontExplainTheJoke the implication being that the cousin's mom is a bitch.]][[JerkAss Which she totally is]] ]]. This Troper liked the sound of it, and still uses it to this day. * This troper has been known to use "scheisse" ("shit" in German) and "shitfuckdeathbeer" (from comedy music act Worm Quartet's "What Your Parents Think All Your Music Sounds Like"). He would use "Flying Spaghetti Monster" more frequently but "FSM" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. * [[Tropers/{{Timber}} This troper]] has taken to using the word "euphemism" itself when she can't think of an actual well-known euphemism. * [[Tropers/{{Keirei}} This troper]], usually responding to words like "Really?" Or "You sure?" by saying "I Shih Tzu Not." * This troper has a few himself, and has run across a few. One is mine and my friend's name for cigarettes. We call them cookies. We call

lighters ovens, and we call menthols(our favorite) "sugar cookies". This comes from when he was holding my cigarettes for me for some reason and eating a cookie. I kept asking him for a cigarette, trying to be quiet about it so as not to interrupt my dad's [[SarcasmMode epic speech]]. He stares at me for twenty seconds, gives a shit-eating grin, and says through a mouthful of crumbs: "You want a cookie?" holding up his half-eaten treat. [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech I spent the next twenty minutes screaming obscenities in his face]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome without pausing for breath.]] ** OP here, still not done. Another one is from my (possibly ex)girlfriend, and it was a cute one. She always called penises "dingdings", which led to some rather amusing(and slightly emasculating) phone sex for a while. She eventually got semi-comfortable with saying "cock" (or just dropping names altogether, which was even hotter) and the cuteness faded. ** Then there's my friend(cookie-guy) and I using "crast" to refer to breaking into somebody's house when they're not home to steal things. Of course, [[AClockworkOrange we weren't the first ones to use that word]], but it became unusual to the more illiterate members of our little cult. ** But the best one of all? That's one that only I use when insulting somebody, usually an idiot or my [[JerkAss jerk of a nephew who likes giving me titty-twisters]], and that's called "Fuckass". Just two words, said really fast, usually accompanied by an elbow to the chest or a slap on the back of the head. * This troper belongs to several online RPs. In the chatbox for one, players were discussing the 'stork brings babies' myth. So this gave rise to the comment that one person's character is going to be praying for a stork for years. And she "needs a praying partner." * When something bothers me, instead of saying 'That really grinds my gears' I say, "That really rustles my jimmies." I understand that it is relatively common on the internet, but completely unheard of in real life, and when people hear me say it it brings quite the laughter. * This troper sometimes utters ''"holy flaming chopsticks"''. The origin of which still baffles me to this day. * When playing StreetFighter with someone, this troper often replaces curses with special move names from said game, like "what the *hadouken*?" or "*tatsumaki* your *senpuu-kyaku*!". * This troper's friend uses "Jesus in a box!" as an expression of exasperation. * I came up with fudge cakes. Originally meant to replace "fuck" as in "Ah... fuck/fudge cakes". Apparently it doubles as a euphemism for shit. ** Also "Happy" is a euphemism for aroused.... don't ask how it came to be. * This troper used to intern at [[DisneyThemeParks Disney World]]. Her fellow intern friends, chastised for swearing on the job at Animal Kingdom, began to use Mickey for almost anything and everything: "Mickey Mouse!" "Oh Mickey." "Shut the Mickey up!" "Mickey yourself!" "You Mickeyhole!" "I got really Mickeyfaced at the party." "That Mickeying [noun]."

** There was only one word that Mickey could not substitute for, and in this case we used Minnie: "She was always Minnieing and moaning." ** Meanwhile, a seasonal cast member I worked with complained while working about "that son of a beach ball". * This troper uses "Pantslizard" for penis and "the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius" for ejaculation. * This troper prefers not to swear, so when irritated will often shout the first thing that comes to her mind. Examples include completely made-up words, and others such as "Chocolate-covered Rats!" "Carpal Tunnel Syndrome!" or "Pickles!" * Not entirely sure if this counts, but one this Troper's friends, as a way to express anger without getting in trouble in situations where cussing would frowned upon, simpling yells things along the lines of "Ahh swear word!" or "Ethnic Slur!". The personal favorite among our circle of friends for a while was "N Word!". Which clearly means [[{{NINJA}} "ninja"]]. Why, [[NWordPrivileges what did you think?]] Also, after a viewing of Matrix: Reloaded "Eating the special cake." came to be a euphemism for a plethora of sexual occurances/activities. * This Troper once had this conversation with two of her friends, who are going out: -->Friend 1: When we get married, we're going to have lots and lots of ducks. -->Friend 2: Our ducks will be so loud that the neighbors will complain. -->Me: ...Is "ducks" code for something else? ** Turns out, they were actually talking about ducks. * This Troper refuses to call herself "this Troper" through this whole thing... I use a lot of Unusal Euphemisms. Instead of saying God or Jesus, I say the names of various people (mostly musicians and game designers) and fictional deities such as [[Pokemon Arceus]], [[SonicTheHedgehog Chaos]], [[SonicTheHedgehog Solaris]], and Starclan (that last one is courtesy of a friend, who just happens to be a big fan of ''Warrior Cats''). There was one case where I was in an online chatroom (a chat only room on Isketch to be exact) and I used four (two in one sentence in one case) Unusual Euphemisms in the same conversation. What were they? "For the love of [[SonicTheHedgehog Naoto Ooshima]], whoever made that site should go [[RuleThirtyFour 34]] themself" "Where in the name of Arceus did you go?" and "Oh, for the love of Starclan...". In fact, I think using Unusual Euphemisms is so fun that I come up with them just for fun. One of the most entertaining ones I ever used was "Holy sweet Yukie Nakama on a sundae!", which I came up with for the purpose of a webcomic I was writing, but gave up on later. * This tropette, when in company where she shouldn't curse, will repeatedly mutter, "Muffins!" Also, thanks to [[AndrewLloydWebber By Jeeves]], she will holler, "By spoons!" or "By moose!" Or really any of the lines of the song. * This troper's English class uses "pulling a Mitty" as a euphemism for daydreaming. * After watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM, me and my brother sometimes jokingly say "count" instead of "fuck". "Go count yourself!"

** I also use "What the Arceus?", and "{{Rule 34}}" as an euphemism for porn. * This troper tends to use a lot of these, for whatever reason. Her favorite is, "Holy bananas in a barrel!" * Fixing a pop machine = Having gay sex. [[ItMakesSenseInContext Don't ask.]] * This troper, when shocked or frightened, will holler, "POPTARTS!" * "Oh, you sack of potatoes!" is the insult of choice for this troper and her friends. Often shortened to "You SACK!" * "Fuckwads!" = "Stupid motherfuckers who can't fucking stop talking for five fucking seconds!" And then there's the obvious "{{Rule 34}}" and [[TheAnnoyingOrange "You're an apple!"]] Also, this troper uses "persuade," "convince," and other synonyms as euphemisms for "kill." * This troper once tried to invite over a few of my friends over to watch Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus. One of his female friends was not allowed to come because her parents believed that I would be tempted to, and I quote, "share a meal with her." Funny thing is that we do often share food during lunch. * This Tropette's art teacher had a habit of saying "CURSE WORD!" whenever she was upset. She even did that around parents during parent/teacher confrences if papers fell and the like. Of course, she was always a little weird. * [[Tropers/WarriorOfLight This troper]] has been known to use, in real life, out loud, "CrystalDragonJesus" as a statement of exasperation, as well as "[[OhMyGods Bahamut's Scaly Left Testicle!]]" and "[[OhMyGods Tiamut's Ashen Tits!]]" in the same vein. "[[ItMakesSenseInContext Nobody wants to see your Dad's guitar]]" has become a euphamism for "Nobody cares about your [[ThisIndexIsFullOfPerverts perverted nonsense]]". [[HypocriticalHumor We know.]] [[HypocrisyNod It's just funnier that way.]] * This troper, his ex-girlfriend, and his friend Sarah often used "doing the verb" as a euphemism for sex. Our journalism teacher had seemed oblivious to how her lecture on active versus passive voice sounded like a euphemistic discussion of something else. We weren't. * This troper occasionally say "fu you cian ke" in his first language, which means "f u c k". * This troper doesn't have much problem cursing, but in situations where he prefers not to, has taken to using the euphemism "WHAT THE FAIL?!" as a substitute for the obvious. * "Well, pluck a duck!" * A friend and I used to refer to watching/reading porn as "drinking orange juice." I figure it doesn't take much to figure out what "stabbed with his poison blade" means. And random nonsense from "The Jabberwocky" makes good substitute curse words, you bandersnatch! * TANJ, the expletive used in the known space books, is hilariously also the acronym used to refer to the Trial Attorneys of New Jersey. There ain't no justice, indeed. * This troper and her friend, somehow, came up with "Fruit Salad" as a euphemism for sex. Another popular one they used at the time was [[HarryPotter Filch]] for both f-ck and bitch. * This tropers' mother is a teachers assistant in kindergarten. One day, one of the boys in her mother's class was caught with his pants

down at recess. It was already suspected the boy had "issues", and so this tropers mother took him to see the school councilor to discuss what exactly was wrong with having your pants down at school. The excuse the kid gave this tropers mother and the school councilor? "I wanted to show my friends my orange whistle." Even though the boy was talking about an actual orange whistle, [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity Ensued]]. * Many people This troper knows use the word "Barstool" in place of "Bastard". It helps that it sounds a lot like the commonly-heard British pronunciation of said profanity. * This Troper has recently began using the phrase "Meat on a farm" as a HandWave to anything that makes little, if any, sense, but is still acceptable on basises of cool or funny. This is, of course, a reference to the PSX game DigimonWorld. Now, when things get...too wierd, we use "They grow packaged cereal on a tree", as reference to DigimonXrosWars. * This Troper often uses "shimblenies", "duckmeat", "flubber", "Schrdinger", "ratsnacks", and "beefsticks" in place of common swears, along with "bone bulge", "nightstick", and "magical fairy wand" to refer to male genitalia. A friend of mine also gave us "linking arms and skipping" as a euphemism for sex. * "Asdfghjkl," (pronounced ass-da-fer-gel), "son of a monkey," and "Oh, [[MetalGear Kojima!]]" Not to mention "Honore D. Balzac," shortened to "Honore D." * This troper is referring to her periods as the Saigon. Her euphemisms for having sex come from university-level math. And even though she's usually swearing as a sailor she tends to write 'fruck' in online convesrsations. * [[CrimzonClover Break Mode]] for (single) orgasms. It's not uncommon for me to use other shmup terminology as substitutes. In general I feel embarassed saying words like "penis" and "vagina" outright, so I have a habit of using euphemisms in order to get creative. * For this tropette and her friends, 'H-E-Double Hockey Stick' because [[GoshDangitToHeck she and her best friend aren't bad word people.]] Also, instead of saying periods, we say that we're on our 'end of the sentence'. * While watching an episode of House at a friend's apartment, I got squicked at on of the symptoms. My reaction was to shout the phrase "Holy Chutes and Ladders." I have no idea where that came from, it just rolled out of my mouth... though I am fond of saying "Holy Shoots" so maybe that had something to do with it. * [[{{Tandra88}} This troper]] is fond of saying, "Ridonkulous!" * This troper (well, when she wasn't fond of cursing) used "What the J!" * [[{{Mars Adept Enten}}I]] personally use some [[GoldenSun GS]]-based profanity substitutes like, "By the Elements!", "Praise the Elements!" and the like, as well as using Inheritance Saga swears like drajl (maggot spawn) or sheilven (coward) for mild stuff, and barzul and its more severe form barzuln for really intensive swearing a lot. I sometimes lapse into usage of [[LegendOfZelda Legend of Zelda]] goddess names and [[Pokemon Legendary Pokmon]] names, too.

* This Troper is not fond of cursing herself resulting in gibberish, irate "squirrel speak", copious use of "frak", taking the names of stories' dieties in vain, some of the good ol' sort like "oh shoot", quite a few odd and often off-the-cuff ones including a personal favorite: "what the frozen Daleks!?" and an accidental adaptation of a Spanish curse-phrase to "conejo tu madre!" * This Troper uses "lmro" aka "laughing my rear/rump off" on occation, even though it ruins the Mao jokes. * This Troper and her friend use "KFC" as a synonym for sex after seeing a comic made from a chapter of [[MyImmortal]], and ''Chick-filA'' for love (since we think Chick-fil-A the fast food restaurant is much better than KFC the fast food restaurant). * This Troper's reaction to [[SirSwearsalot people using the f-word instead of punctuation]]: -->"Oh, ''comma''" ---Fripz on back to UnusualEuphemism, you snibblatting crumph! ---<<|TroperTales|>> )

UnusuallyUninterestingSight * Once in high school, most of the student body was playing in the gym. At some point, a guy in a gorilla mask ran through the court for several seconds and ran back off without anyone looking at him. After a minute or two, this troper asked the person next to her what was up with that, and she laughed, not having noticed a thing. * I have worn an Organization XIII cloak to school on two separate occasions, as well as cat ears, to the surprise and confusion of... no one. Either this says something about how I normally dress, or.... * My 13-year-old brother likes to wear a colorful metallic, '70's' costume shirt over his regular clothes whenever we go out. Nobody ever glances at him twice. * this troper's so weird that her school treats anything she does as one of these.

UnwantedHarem * This troper's best Friends have this. their twins(male) and they have the oddest way of attracting random girls. walking through a church out of nowhere a group of girls start playing with their hair and pawing at them. All the wile not one is paying attention to me. at the end I asked "why does that never happen to me?". * This female troper... with a group of girls. For some strange reason that this troper has absolutely no idea why anyone would think that that isn't at all related to several incidents, many peple think this (straight) troper is a lesbian. With a lack of lesbians at school, the few that exist are after her now, having dated each other. Yeah, it's a bit weird... ** You mean [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer even the girls want you?]] What's your secret? You sound CursedWithAwesome to me, because

EvenTheGirlsWantHer=[[RuleOfSexy sexiness]]/[[RuleOfGlamorous glamour]]/[[RuleOfCool coolness]] gone UpToEleven. Either that or you're a {{Bifauxnen}}, but looking like a pretty boy would be cool too. *** Same thing happened to this troper at a younger age. I was mistaken for a boy a few times back at my school (note this was a AllGirls school) then as I grew older, I accidently attracted the attention of a few obivously straight girls in my year. Wierdly I made a some-what ugly girl but a pretty guy. * This tropette is this trope in an odd way. She once had about 3 guys crush on her, but they were just friends. I kept saying no, and they said they'd wait. *sigh* But thankfully they got over it...I hope. The weird example however, is that her friends like to joke around that she is their woman. She has about 4 or 5 friends that have made their claim on her and they routinely fight. Of course this tropette is aware they are joking, but one of her friends knows how much I dislike to be touched and intentionally tries to grope me. Which then causes the others to be angry. All this is making her feel extremely guylike, and depressed. >_> * This troper had this happen to him at least twice, in summer camp and in high school (and possibly once in middle school as well). Subverted in that he's pretty convinced they were only chasing him to mock him. ** Yeah, that happened to me too. It was so annoying because I ''wanted'' it to be true, but knew it probably wasn't (though I never did find out- stupid gutlessness...). *** This one, on the other hand, didn't want it at all. In retrospect, that might've caused it in the first place. For that matter, they also ran the gamut of related tropes... If only he'd been a troper then. **** Same with second and thrid Tropers, she has a fact one to make fun of her due to being a soial outcast in her school. ** Ditto with this troper; though he managed to befriend them by playing along with it. * This troper had as many as five girls interested in him at school three of them highly attractive, and one of those a bisexual - but he didn't fancy any of them all that much. He also didn't even notice this until years afterwards. ** MissedMomentOfAwesome much? * This troper had two girls ask him to take them to the senior prom. Not sure if that works though, as they weren't really vying for my attention, they were just friends who wanted to go to the prom and didn't have dates yet. * This troper's younger brother has had this problem, although it's more of a hero-worship thing than an "OMG I want to date him" thing. Being as he is the star of his age group in swim team, he's gained a small herd of followers (who irritate him to no end). * This troper when he was in high school had this. There were several females at the martial arts school who had the hots for me. The problem with this? Well most of the girls were roughly 12 and 13 and when this happen I was about 17 years old. Yea not happening. Needless to say he ran into one of those girls years laster when she turned 17 and damn she got pretty.

** The same thing happened to me (except for meeting them years later): When I was 12 I was a member of an Unwanted Harem of a 18year-old guy. Now, that I`m 16 I have my very own gang of 11- to 13year-old boys, who are drooling over me. But I guess I`m lucky: they`re quite decent. Most of the time they`re just trying to catch brief glimpses of me without attracting attention. They attract pretty much attention, but at least they try... * This troper had this in sixth grade. With a bunch of eighth grade girls. They called me "Hercules." Even now, I don't know what they found so attractive. ** If I had to guess, I'd assume it was physical strength, judging by the nickname they gave you. * This troper currently has a boyfriend...and two girls that like me, possibly three. * This (bi, female) troper started out with a girlfriend...and currently has three bishonen guys who she's not sure what relationship status they consider her, but gets frequent declarations of love from and is involved with...(the girlfriend seems to find this whole thing amusing) Nevermind that if she thinks about being in a relationship with a guy too hard she'll sort of sit in a corner and whimper...I mean I love them all, but I really would've been fine with just the girl...I really don't know how this happened... * This troper, mostly by virtue of being a fairly attractive gamer girl. Many more people think that's hot than you'd expect. ** Have you not ''read'' this site, above troper? Geekiness is hot. Full stop. * This troper's guy friend is going through this and this just started last year. All of a sudden, random girls kept coming up to him and tried to befriend him or kept calling him, "best friend" for no reason. Some of them were basically girls that just flirt with certain guys to piss whatever girl was closest to them (and boy did it work on me). It seems that he really doesn't care for any of those other girls. Also, at the residential camp this troper went to recently, this girl that I quickly became friends with, went through this. Two of the guys at the camp crushed on her and were just obsessed about it. She couldn't stand any of it. * This troper had one back at his old school. Two young, plain looking, overweight, goofy brunette girls who would always giggle around him and make him sit with them. However, towards the end of the year, he grew fond of them, and somewhat misses them now...* Sighs* * This troper currently has this going on for him. He knows at least about 1 girl in his circle of (entirely female) friends has had a crush on him before(And another that he suspects might have a crush on him, though various hint-dropping.) He's also met four females on Skype, all of whom either flirt or fluster him on a regular basis and seem to slip into what this troper likes to call 'Rena Mode' on him. One these involved somehow charming a woman over in less than a ''day''. And ''then'' there was the time this troper accidentally got roped into roleplaying with a mother from Sweden who was.. [[MostCommonSuperpower well...]] Overlaps into EvenTheGuysWantHim, due to a few of this troper's male friends reacting in that manner. One of this troper friend's attributed this to this troper's lanky frame,

messy hair, kind, easily-flustered, nice guy personality, and what he called ''soul-stealing blue eyes''. This troper would like to note that this has only happened in the span of about a year, and wasn't even looked at like that otherwise, prior. ** You have to be someone that I know! Are you perchance six feet or taller? * This Troper had six girls crushing on him, four of them actively pursuing him and asking him out even, all during the same year of his life. Unfortunately what they took for sensitivity was simply me not sexualizing them whatsoever because this Troper is gay yet was closeted during this year. As one can guess none of the pairings happened in the end, even though other friends, siblings, and even parents were shipping them. * This Troper was part of one. As a student, and then a teacher, of a foreign languages, she attented classes where the female-to-male ratio varied between 6-to-1 and 10-to-1. Needless to say, the rate of celibacy was lower among the male students than among the females. * This (female, somewhat closeted bisexual/not entirely straight/something) Troper had an unwanted harem of all but one her closest friends-- was molested by her ex-[[HeterosexualLifePartners heterosexual life partner]], asked out by said lifepartner's boyfriend while they were still dating, was told recently by another friend that she was trying to get with this troper all junior year, and has the feeling that her BlackBestFriend wouldn't exactly be opposed to going out... The most upsetting part is that the only friend who this troper really does like doesn't seem interested. [[LesYay Though it is odd that we call each other husband and wife]]. But this troper doesn't want to to get her hopes up by thinking that it's not so much a joke as a cover... * One day in eighth grade, all the girls in my grade came over to my table and said they were my friends now. One of them gave me her box of Cheez-its. Within a year or so, I realized that for most of them, this was just their scheme to get me as their pet to sic on the other guys, all of whom avoided me like the plague and would often run away from me in semi-serious fear to avoid accidentally making any kind of physical contact. * Poor kid at my school is bugged by me and my friends. We poke him. And just generally bug him. Plus, he has now earned the nickname of Princess. Like, last quarter, one teacher actually called him Princess Kwon Kwon. * In freshman year, one of this troper's friends (a {{Meganekko}} {{Bifauxnen}} with a knack for guitar and [[CuteClumsyGirl minimal chaos]]) ended up with one of these; it was composed of a {{Manipulative Bastard}}, a [[StalkerWithACrush crazy]] [[TheSmartGuy smart]] [[UnfortunateImplications gu]][[GoodIsDumb y,]] and a couple of {{Tsundere}}s, one of which was the troper herself. And there was also the troper's [[InstantFanClub fanclub]], a bunch of male and [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer female]] classmates who would (jokingly) profess their love to the friend on a daily basis. This all reached a point where the {{Manipulative Bastard}} would regularly run over to hold the friend's hand, the other {{Tsundere}} lugged around a sign reading "I love you [friend]!", and this troper and the [[StalkerWithACrush

crazy]] [[TheSmartGuy smart guy]] got into a bit of a [[LoveTriangle fight]] over the friend. * This Troper (probably a Type B male {{Tsundere}}) seems to have this going on. Between the girls who constantly hit on and flirt with him, the Type A Tsundere girl I hang out with regularly, the [[BrainyBrunette geek girl]], and the semi-stalker [[GayOption gay option]], my life is practically a romantic comedy at times. * This troper emphasizes the word "Unwanted". I despise having relationship with females, [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife being fearful that it would ruin my TV Tropes and Internet life]], yet in my own house only two of us were male (Me and my father) while the rest who lives are female, from a relative Tsundere who has a MoeMoe sister to three maids from the Philippines, and it's even worse in school, where some girls are attracted to me (including Koreans), yet I do nothing but reject them and speak openly and shamelessly against females, romantic relationships and marriage like I was a [[LargeHam hammy]] NietzscheWannabe. I don't know, I look like a stereotypical geek and I don't want any females near me because of my usually Troper, Tsundere, Otaku and Nietzsche Wannabe attitudes, which I fear is harmful to others, but maybe the reason I have an Unwanted Harem is because [[TheWoobie I am one of the school nerds who almost always end up being beaten, bullied, harassed and mind raped by the jocks]]. * This troper has to live in one daily as a good majority of her friend's group consists of skirt-chasing guys and lesibeans with no sense of personal space. Despite what others may think, it is most unwanted and this troper does not want, especially when she's referred to as the cute one and then smothered in their affection or thrown over a shoulder and 'kidnapped.' * This 9th-grade Troper thinks they're messing with me, but I seem to be fancied by 10th-graders and black girls. Unfortunately, the 10th grader is perverted and unatractive. I was playing basketball with my friends in gym class and she yells, "Take your shirt off!" I didn't try to let her down easy. A girl in my math class, though having a nice enough personallity towards me, did a lot of things against my values. She often would sit by me and smile at me. As for the black girls, whoo-boy. This might be wanted, except that I can't tell if they really like me, are messing around, or just very friendly. One says hi to me wheverever she can and puts an emphasis on my name, a few randomly sit by me at lunch and ask me random questions, and one particulary attractive girl tried to hug me. I refused because of my antisocail attitude an, well, I don't think I was wearing blue jeans that day. * Not sure if this counts, but after years of being ignored by the opposite sex, [[ChutneyProphet This Troper]] suddenly found that three of her male friends were obviously interested in dating her. It was...jarring, to say the least, not to mention a little frustrating since she had just moved a hundred miles away from the one interested male that she would have considered dating. * [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] by this Troper, who would ''love'' such a situation, but girls completely unrequire his feelings. I even wonder what's bad about having girls chasing after him.... Yes, I would swap with everybody here, why do you ask?

** Join the club. I'll get you a jacket and a nametag. * This Troper has it somewhere between subverted and reconstructed, going by the Played With thing on this page. I have a great many female friends, (almost) none of whom are romantically or sexually interested in me, which I know because I've asked. In each case, they either gave a polite no or a polite "not anymore." Still, they're all good friends who I am happy to have as friends. HilarityEnsues when attempting to convince almost anyone who sees me with one of them (or anyone who's seen me with several of them) that ShesNotMyGirlfriend. Yeah, I'm a ChivalrousPervert. Also, most of them aren't friends with any of the others. * This (male) troper just realised his life is slowly becoming one. He has his girlfriend, then his three closest friends happen to be girls (one of which seems to be crushing on him already...), and a girl who's name I don't know (she has approached me three times, once to ask me to a dance). This troper, in summary, isn't sure to be happy or otherwise. * I was an UnluckyEverydude... until the month before I moved to a different city at which point I suddenly acquired one of these. FUCK. * This Troper was a major aversion. In 8th Grade, he sat at a lunch table with him as the only boy. He just sat there. Eleven girls around him. However, none of them had any interest in him. At all. Although they were very comfortable around him, once spending an entire recess period speaking of Milkshakes. Not the kind you drink. Its a wonder he didn't change where he was sitting after that. * This troper isn't sure if he's ever had any "UnwantedHarem" but a few moments in middle school, wherein he was around a few girls at a time who wanted to talk to him (again, not necessarily a matter of attraction, could be about friendship, etc...) could easily be mistaken for it. The problem with this concept is that it's hard to tell whether it's actually a matter of attraction or not. * This troper is part of a fencing club that has members of all ages and abilities. A few of the younger girls, this troper included, decided to embarrass one of the internationally-ranked men in the club by pretending to be this trope (oddly enough, no one had a problem with 3 underage girls were fawning over a 50+ year old man). This snowballed to include all the other members of the club, the instructor included, and even eventually members of other local clubs. One notable instance was when he walked in late to a tournament, only to have nearly everyone, even the guys, stop for a moment to admiringly coo his name. He also reportedly had a panic attack while at a tournament in Russia when two young girls asked for his autograph; he thought the "fan club" was spreading beyond just our local area. Lucky for him though, the girls were just asking for the autographs of all the fencers at the event. ** I applaud you for this. *** [[DoubleStandard Yay, sexual harassment]]! * This overweight, glasses-wearing [[KavorkaMan Kavorka Kid]] was in gym class in junior high when we had to invent a dance routine. While I was deciding what group I wanted to be in, Half the girls in the class surrounded me and declared I was in theirs. To this day, I'm still popular with girls and I'm not really sure why (there's also the

fact that I now have a girlfriend, and having girls who seem to fawn over me makes both of us kind of uncomfortable.) * This female troper really can't figure out how it happened: In junior high I was merely a wallflower, but the second I started high school I got two boys of my own age, one senior student, and [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer one bisexual female student]] onto my heels and needless to say, I'm not interested in any of them...though I like the attention I'm getting. * [[{{chitoryu12}} Me]] when I got a girlfriend. Suddenly, everyone realized that I'm NOT totally hopeless with women, even though it took me until the beginning of my senior year in high school to get a girl, and I became much more attractive. Of course, I hardly wanted to dump Kelly just because two bisexual nymphomaniacs and my super-hot best friend are trying to bang me. So over a year later, Kelly and I are still together. I'm an idiot, right? ** Not really. [[FirstGirlWins First girl won.]] (As a side note, all you people are lucky, lucky bastards.) * I finally have me a girlfriend...then it turns out she isn't over her ex. ok, so we quietly break up. No big deal. A few weeks later I get a crush on one of her friends who was mine as well. She wanted to tell me a secret that she liked someone. Who was it? my former girlfriends ex as well. I then talked with another girl who was my friend and she too said she had a crush on him. The guy in question is heavily monotone and doesn't want to be touched at all. Hugs, kisses, you name it. He does however recite shakespeare and has the voice of a less [[NeonGenesisEvangelion whinny shinji ikari]] so Its not totally uncalled for. * This troper is a slight subversion in that he was friends with a guy who had one, and the [[GenreSavvy entire school recognised this]]. Even though one of their group was definatly his girlfriend. And he still went to me for advice when he was having trouble with that relationship, even though I have absolutley no experiance in the [[ObliviousToLove field of girlfriends]], mostly because he saw me being friendly with all the other girls in his harem and automatically assumed I was good with that sort of thing. Everyone else, [[ArmouredClosetGay considered this]] [[GayOption not so much]]. * This troper has a group of girls that constantly ask for hugs from him, even getting [[TheGlomp glomped]] from time to time. This was very awkward at first, but I don't mind anymore. Kind of subverted in the fact that none of them are interested in me as far as I know. Of course, [[ObliviousToLove this isn't saying much.]] * I had some sort of thing in which whenever I started to befriend or (even worse) begin to fancy a certain guy, they suddenly were in the middle of an UnwantedHarem. It wasn't really HaremNanny since I was an active participant in a few of the cases (in one I was the TakeAThirdOption since I never expressed any interest outwardly) but it was more like...well it was either a Harem Launcher or a case of having some horrible friends in high school who didn't want me happy in love. * Playing with the trope over here. I like to be part of the harem and round it off. I can be the funny one, the quiet one, the letch, the sporty one, or even the nanny. Of course, I'm never in just one at a

time so people who know me don't take my participation very seriously. Of course, I do often drop out when the harem reaches its critical mass and my efforts are best turned elsewhere (four of us is way better than three but five isn't much better than four. Of course, one must take the levels of commitment into account. The more committed the other harem blokes are, the shorter I'll be around). I've never won but it's not as thought I want to. For those of you who are going to get on my case for toying with people's emotions, I think that having a skillful "harem tiller" can actually make things more exciting and fun for all involved. The competition also causes the more determined guys to... shit, I just realized, as I was writing this, that I am a Paolo. Damnit. * This troper had a friend in high school who had the BIGGEST. [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING.]] HAREM. she's ever seen. He was extremely good-looking, played five musical instruments and was overall funny and charming. Random women stopped in the middle of the street to compliment his appearance. When going to a club, he spent the entire night fending off girls. Seriously, I've seen it. A friend of this troper claims to have developed an eating disorder so he would notice her. He had a fan club of thirteen-year-olds following him around and taking pictures of him to drool over them during classes. (He was eighteen at that time.) They also baked him cookies and begged him for hugs. And this troper admits that she was madly in love with him as well. The kicker? [[spoiler:He eventually came out as gay.]] ** [[spoiler: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's awesome!]] * This Troper moved to a rural area in North Wales during her last year of primary school (so about 11 years old). It was an English speaking school since it was close to an Royal Air Force base and the English children could go there. However, my brother and I were the only ones on the base old enough or young enough to attend the school, and so I was the only English girl. It was a small class and I found out that the majority of the boys had a crush on me, mainly because I was English, and a few younger girls (probably only about 9 or 10 years old) had told me they wanted to marry me. It was all pretty adorable. :3 * I've had usually had atleast three girls and their little sisters having a crush on me at any given moment since middle school. [[StraightGay Which sort of sucks.]] * One of this troper's friends looks a bit like Robert Pattinson. ...Yeah. He seems mostly embarrassed by the throngs of girls that used to follow him around in high school, and gets annoyed when anyone brings it up. Strangely enough, though most agree they're both handsome, nobody ever says that his ''twin brother'' looks like Pattinson. * Let's just say this Troper will be asking his brother for help when said brother gets back from Afghanistan... I just HAD to have that quality that attracts every good looking girl in a twelve mile radius... ;~; * At several points during High School, girls would come up to me and ask me about myself. I didn't get it, and often wondered why I didn't get any dates. Several years later, someone told me I was attractive, and [[FridgeLogic then the lightbulb went on]].

* Nothing romantic related at all, but when i was 12, i had four girls often follow me around during lunch period and watch me play sport. They usually just talked, but often gave shouts of encouragement. It never sounded sarcastic, but i had no idea what their actual motive for this was. They weren't the popular girls or the vindictive type and never showed any romantic attention. They were pretty cool chicks from my point of view, but yeah, it was just odd. And annoying because the others who i played sports with had to deal with them cheering for me (not them). * This female troper. She a short, awkward, shy and geeky girl (often getting comments on how my hair and other aspects of me makes me look like a doll), but men always show interest in her, much to her Squick, since she looks like a pre-teen, ignoring the fact that she's 18. Back in highschool some girls told her that a guy in her class was interested in me, I made pretty clear that I hated all the guys from my highschool to them, although I think they were just trying to piss me off. Even now, it seems that I'm starting to get attention in the [[GeekyTurnOn anime cons]], as some guys guys are too kind with me, adding that recently one friend girl likes to and it's getting a habit of [[LesYay fluster her]] [[YaoiFangirl with FFVII yaoi]] (her [[GuiltyPleasures guilty pleasure]], kinda), as I get [[LuminescentBlush flustered kinda easily]]. She says I'm moe. * In the most unlikely of ways, this troper has a non-romantic variation of an unwanted harem. This troper is seen as a MemeticSexGod or a MemeticBadass, which came out of nowhere (sure, he knocked out his own [[BunnyEarsLawyer fat black-belt ninja]] best friend, but it was a total lucky shot and accident. He's also a comedian and a relatively good dancer). He is a CloudCuckoolander, has failed in every attempt to get a girlfriend (save one instance, which ended badly) and is not very attractive, to say the least. Despite all that, this troper is often surrounded by girls (who are not romantically interested in me in the slightest) during school dances, and it often gets irritating. So much so he physically pushes away some of the girls for some breathing room. -<<|TroperTales|>>

UpToEleven * This troper took the train a couple of days ago. Above the door, there was a dial. No idea what it does, but must be something important, seeing how it went [[UpToEleven Up To Eleven]]

UrbanDead * [[SilentHunter This troper]] once went zombie inside the armory of Fort Creedy. and said "Grrrhhhh" to the fifty people nearest to him. He later did the latter again in the gatehouse. * This troper recently logged out, low on ap, in a hospital...and logged back in to find exactly one zombie inside, and the doors wide open. Closing the doors and [[BerserkBoardBarricade barricading]] the place again was easy enough. But with only [[AxCrazy an axe]] on hand, disposing of the little intruder proved difficult. So I decided to

hide in an adjacant building and [[SomebodyElsesProblem let someone else kill it]]. If this happens again, [[DirtyCoward I]] think I just might [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere leave everyone else to their fate]]. * This troper once killed a zombie with a fuel can and a flare gun. For those who don't know, this means I first hit the zombie with a fuel can (15% odds of success), THEN I hit the zed with a flare gun (max accuracy: 15%). With Urban Dead's RNG, this basically amounts to a gift from God. On the minus side, I lost a perfectly good fuel can.

UrbanLegendLoveLife * This troper's gay friend has rumors of several relationships circling around him, when in reality, he's only ever had three boyfriends, all of whom were legitimate relationships, and none of which were cheated on. * My mate gets this a lot. He is pretty good looking, so people assume he is kind of a whore. I look younger than I am, so people assume I'm celibate when I'm anything but. It's funny. * Surely this Troper is not the only one who gets this? I'm a giant flirt and relative to most of my geek friends I've become the Casanova, but they've managed to turn the occasional friend with benefits or other debauchery into a reputation for "Manwhoring." I like to think that when I spend infinitely more time programming than interacting with women this is not true... As of June 2010 at the age of 20, I have had sex with... 4 women. 6 if you count oral. That's not so bad now is it? ** Since this troper has never even been kissed at the age of 18, he has slightly different standards for the definition of "not a lot." *** Guy from above here. No worries friend, This is what University/College is all about. 3/4 | 4/6 of those occurred post getting to University, and I know a lot of friends who suddenly found themselves finally meeting girls etc. when they got here. Keep in mind, this is a male-heavy Engineering/Math school and We're all in Computer Science. You'll be fiiine. * This troper comes from a small town where the youth seems to be devided right down the middle between completely sexless nerds, and completely promiscuous assholes (mostly assholes due to peer pressure, but still). As you no doubt have guessed, he was a member of the former group, until he became an outcast there aswell and decided to go to a highschool which takes students from many areas, mainly from the big city adjacent to it. Among this population, this troper found a wonderful middle, and managed to overcome social anxieties to get to the lower tier of said middle, and be comfortable there. Then, upon working in the town where he still lives, this troper again found friends in the geeky part of the community, where he is since known as a manwhore for having reached third base at the incredible age of 17, and for ocaisionally getting to second base with girls at parties, and no further. * One of ThisTroper's friends has this going on all throughout the greater Houston, Texas and Orlando, Florida area. More than likely has

little to do with the quote, "At least 5 inches long, and that's his TONGUE. You ever wondered why he wears sweatpants?" * This troper recently found out he had one of these. It seems the 'authoritative' count is one night stands with 18 girls, 4 guys, 1 'boyfriend'/male sig other relationship, 5 girlfriends, 4 threesomes and a gang bang. This troper wishes there was any truth to this, as he is 25 and a few kisses is his lifetime catalogue of achievement. He wonders who this lothario is that causes this confusion, and why the people claiming this sexual history for me specifically acknowledge that thy haven't slept with me. I know that * This troper recently discovered that some acquaintances thought of her as something of a maneater. She has, in 24 years, had sex with exactly two people and made out with a couple more. Her being sexpositive may contribute to this perception, but "I think sexuality should be freely expressed and bring joy" doesn't always translate to "I have done it with loads of people".

UrineTrouble * A friend of [[GoatBoy this troper]]'s sister once told him about the time he was on a road trip with friends, and had to take a leak, but the driver refused to stop, so he leaned out the window, whipped it out, and let loose. Good thing the guy in the back seat had his window up... ** Not that, but I once had to pee so bad that when my friend stopped, I just got out, whipped it out, and peed right there on the side of the road. * No actual urination here, but back in my high school drama class, I was participating in a rendition of the Little Red Riding Hood story. I played the part of Little Red's small annoying dog called Ot-ot (don't ask...). The finale called for Little Red's small annoying dog to take a pee all over the corpse of the big bad wolf (again... don't ask). * When ThisTroper was a kid, he remembers his dad coming in to tell him something while carrying his (then baby) sister, whom he had for some reason neglected to put a diaper on. In the middle of the talk, a rather large trickle suddenly comes streaming down his stomach... ** "That's why you gotta wear goggles!"--ThisTroper's then 9-year-old sister, after our mother warned me of this when I was considering going into babysitting. * Anyone who's ever had pets has no doubt had items anointed. One of the worst smells one writer has ever experienced was turning on an electric stove burner and discovering that a cat had urinated on it. (She's still trying to decide if this is worse than week-dead human corpse in the "all-time worst smells experienced" category.) ** Ditto with this troper's cat urinating inside a toaster. All I can say is burning cat urine would make an excellent makeshift riot control agent. ** This Troper's mother's cat peed on ''her'' while she was asleep. He did it deliberately just to get thrown outside so he could pursue the

object of his affection--our other cat who had been put outside because [[DepravedBisexual that first dumb pervo cat]] wouldn't quit trying to butt-rape him. ** This Troper's mom used to tell him that a cat we had when he was a kid would do this in the ''electric fans''. Not only giving a bad smell, but ensuring it'd be blown around the room, to boot. *** At least it wasn't the other type of excrement, because in that case, [[IncrediblyLamePun the shit really would hit the fan...]] * This troper read in the short-lived magazine Flux about peeing on the radiator at school, so he tried it. The smell lingered for days... * Several years ago there was an incident involving the family dog, a cliff, a strong breeze and a walker who mistakenly thought it had started raining. Said incident was the source of much amusement in my family. * While on a road trip there is a family habit of allowing those who can to pee in empty cans and bottles. My sister had a can of her son's pee sitting next to her in the car when the state trooper behind her suddenly hit lights and sirens. Certain she was getting pulled over for speeding, because she was speeding, she grabbed the can and reflexively took a drink as her son was yelling "MOM you are drinking my pee!" The state trooper pulled past her and headed off for greater evil doers, and my sister spit pee all over the inside of the car. When she got home she brushed her teeth for a hundred years. * We had hamsters when I was in grade school. Once, my brother had one of his friends over; I thought he might like to hold one of the hamsters, so I [[HeadPet put the hamster on the friend's head.]]\\ Cue him asking for shampoo and a towel. ** You MagnificentBastard! Too bad they don't sell hamsters in Australia, [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} this troper]] might try the same using a pet rat in future. However, more likely he won't as he wouldn't want the rat killed - rats, even in captivity, have a short enough lifespan as it is. * [[Tropers/{{Cheeseypoofs}} This Troper]]'s father says "There's 3 ps in puppy and [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean there's a reason why]] * This troper's dog pees on everything, including: *** Several backpacks *** This troper's leg (twice) (It was an accident, he jumped up on me because he was so exited to see me, and when he's exited, he loses bladder control) *** Mom's leg (he only lifted his leg, Mom sent him to his crate before anything came out) *** Cars ** It seems to have stopped now, but it might start up again. * [[Tropers/ZiggyStardustForever This troper's]] cat is so finicky. If you don't keep her litter box clean enough, she craps in my bathtub and pees on my towels. Though she has calmed down a wee bit lately... * [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} This troper]]'s father had a pet Chinese Crested Dog named Spock (on account of the dog's pointy ears), and he was so bad with UrineTrouble he was permanently consigned outside (unless Dad was present with him). This is also kind-of a memorial thing as well, as Spockie (as we called him) also had an outgoing personality and was a JerkWithAHeartOfGold of the dog world, and even

in his later years (he died from old age last year in his late teens, which is basically a centenarian in dog terms, [[{{CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming}} he was fit as a fiddle until the very last day of his life]]). --> Spockie the Dog: ~1994-2010. R.I.P. ---Just go behind UrineTrouble. No one will see.

UsedToBeASweetKid * I don't know where [[{{Tropers/samusaranfan}} I]] would fit on the whole hero-villain spectrum, but I definitely fit this trope. I used to be so nave and innocent. I almost always smiled, and I could never stay angry or upset for long. But the years have taken their toll on my innocence, and I'm not the girl I was nine years ago anymore. I struggle with depression, and I've considered suicide more than once. Sometimes, I try to escape the pain by building my own little fantasy worlds. But nothing really works. Nine years ago, I never could have imagined the way I'd end up today. ** [[{{Tropers/CPJC221}} This Troper]] Is The [[SpearCounterpart Spear Counterpart]] To the Above Troper. He Used To be carefree and innocent, and didn't care what others said about him. But the Death of his father caused him extreme depression. When He Entered Junior High, He was placed in a class of [[CompleteMonster Complete]] [[KidsAreCruel Monsters]]. His Sanity Began to Slip. When He Went into The 8th Grade, [[ItGotWorse It Got Worse]]. It Led To Him Attempting Suicide and later cutting himself. And I'm Only Fourteen, It's Been Going On For Ten Years. * This troper used to "always have a smile". 4 years of bullying took their toll. He's now an utter cynic, and a bit of a nihilist. Also, he now has a BerserkButton. Fun times all round! * During one of the last conversions I had with my Father before his death,He said that as a little kid I was always happy and laughing and now that I was an adult I never did. He asked what happened and the only answer I had was that life happened. * I used to be such a sweet and innocent boy... life happened alright, but for me it was very strange, up until recently I came to this insight about how I was back then and how I am now. It all started when I was very little, sometimes something I saw unfair happened to me, like my dad eating my slice of pizza for example, and then I would always ask him 'Why me?', and he would always replied 'Because someone always gets screwed, and in here, you are the little one at the bottom. For some reason he resented me, and many people growing up have also displayed such emotions towards me, funny thing is, sometimes these people betraying me are my so called 'best friend'. You have no idea, I always wanted to be a Hero, like the Supers on comics or the Greeks of legend, I always followed with a strict code of conduct, you know the stuff a hero like [[KnightInShiningArmor Knight]] [[LiveALive Oersted]] would follow, help those in need, always be truthful in thought, speech and action, share what you can spare, never betray those close to you. I always tried my very best to

uphold such ideals and never willingly go against the code, see that bit about me being 'little', it stuck with me all my life, I felt like a lesser being, like I could be worthy of existence only if I upheld the code, and prove to everyone that I was good, pure and just, that I was not a monster who deserved to be denounced and hated, that I deserved to live and walk amongst the rest of you humans... I only wanted to be loved, but now the child has grown and the dream is gone. How wry... that my life turned out so similar to the story of the Hero I once admired. * This troper used to be one, even through nearly eight years of bullying by adults and peers. Her [[StepfordSmiler smile]] was a great [[BreakTheCutie cover.]]

UsefulBook * This troper's copy of the Oxford Classical Dictionary describes it as "The ultimate useful book." Surprisingly apropos description for such a Door Stopper.

UtilityBelt * [[MrDeath I]] have put one of these together, originally for work, but now more for hiking. It's a regular belt (with a Batman belt buckle acquired at Six Flags), with store-bought pouches from a sporting goods store, which holds an umbrella, notepad, pen, camera, batteries, snacks, a flashlight, pocket knife, and compass. ** You need a rope and grappling hook or else it's not complete. And, of course, a spray-can labeled "SHARK-REPELLENT BAT-SPRAY." * It's not a ''belt'', but This Troper is able to fit an amazing amount of stuff - including a switch-blade knife and mace - into her purse, along with more common things. It's bigger on the inside.

ValleyGirl * Like, hi. I like, totally can't belive you guys didn't make a troper tales for this yet! SO not cool. * This Troper speaks in a Valley Girl speech pattern whenever she cosplays as [[{{Hetalia}} Poland]]. * This troper befriended the quietest, shyest, most softly-spoken girl she'd ever met last year. For nearly six months she'd only get a wave; mid-year, though, she had the shock of her life when Softy, who was most definitely a ShrinkingViolet, trusted the troper enough to speak to her. To this day this troper has not met anyone with a more contradictory voice and personality and a worse ValleyGirl twang. She, though, is still this troper's homie. * This troper lives in Ramona. A tiny town situated in a Southern California valley. The constant, grating sound of ValleyGirl accents, their over-exuberance over the littlest things (accompanied by an increase in accent and volume) as well as their baffling stupidity are two major contributing factors to his early graduation. This troper runs into them much less frequently now that he attends college; maybe most of them can't get that far?

* When [[@/TitoMosquito this troper]] went to the Cartoon Art Museum in SanFrancisco, there's two girls who work there. And they both talk like stereotypical valley girls. One of them even has [[HairOfGold blonde hair]]. * This troper works in an office with a girl who looks like a skinnier version of LindsayLohan....bright red ginger hair, orange skin, and her voice is the most grating valley girl accent ever heard. ---Like, let's go back to ValleyGirl. (For sure.)

ValuesDissonance * Is this troper the only one who winces when people use the term "gay" as meaning anything bad or stupid. she hates this so much that for a day she put a 10p fine on her friends every time they used it that day. Earned over 4 before they told me to quit it. As Simon Amstell put it "It sounds homophobic but of course she's using the other, fashionable term of the word meaning anything generally bad". Personally I find it incredibly offensive but no one seems to realize just how bad it is in the same way racism was considered perfectly normal and acceptable not that long ago. ** Don't be pissed off at language shift. "Gay" meant "happy", then it became slang for a prostitute. Later, it came to mean "homosexual", and now it can mean "stupid" as well. Similarly, "making love" originally meant just having a heartfelt conversation with friends or family--no romantics involved. Only in the latter half of the 20th century did it get its current meaning. HaveAGayOldTime, indeed. * This troper's new mother friend (born in Colorado, now lives in Massachusetts) goes nuts when she must breast feed in public, she won't even do it on her balcony or near any windows in her apartment. She worries about offending people with nudity no matter how many times I tell her it's fine and no one is going to care. She currently has a large cape she wears when she must feed the baby in public. * This troper is in kind of a weird position. I don't understand people's obsession with themselves. I've always been taught to always... always think of other people before myself. And would gladly risk my life to save a stranger's. ** I was taught the same... and would kill a [[strike: city]] planet to save myself. Yeah, trying to give me morals doesn't work. ** Well, egoism is kinda logical: You're you, you're not other people. ''Your'' happiness and misfortune is the only that you will ever experience, no one else's. You may emphasize with others, but again, that's ''your'' empathy. And of course it will be ''your'' guilt and bad conscience if you act selfishly after having been taught your whole life to think of others first. So in the end, it's your own gratification you seek by being selfless. Still, the rest of us wouldn't have it any other way :- ) *** I think you just disproved that good exists, since it's just based on selfish empathy. By the same logic, evil is bullshit too since psychopaths and hypothetical 'Evil' monsters are just doing whats 'Good' for them and atrocious to others. I think this makes half of every [[AnAesop Aesop]] ever conceived to be wrong. I don't know

whether to feel sad that morals are worth nothing or happy that I'm free from all the utter crap every hypocritical thing people have said to me. Interesting over all. ** Is it possible that it has something to do with not fearing death? I mean, I'm really not scared of dying, so I wouldn't have a problem with risking my life to save someone else's. *** That makes more sense. ** Also, you really don't know how you'll act in an extreme situation until you're in one. I'm sure you'd like to believe that you would gladly risk your life to save your neighbor, but when the occasion arises, would you really do it? *** That would really have to depend on who I'm supposed to be saving here. * This troper remembers attending Latin class, using a faux-Roman textbook -- including the tacit and deliberate assumption that owning slaves and treating women as inferior is only natural. Not to mention how the expansion of the Empire could only be a good thing... ** You talking "Ecce Romani" or was this a different one? ** Also the liberal beating of schoolchildren and of slaves and commoners that get too close to an important senator. *** That's the coolest textbook ever. ** Also, there's an immense amount of values dissonance in this troper's [[strike:current]] past Latin curriculum (after taking those very same textbooks, I suspect) because we're translating the ''Aeneid''. The teacher has become so frustrated in attempts to address this, as well as general mythological dissonance ("Why doesn't Juno just kill Ganymede if he annoys her so much instead of taking it out on his country?" "If that woman turned into a fly, why didn't Jupiter [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just kill it]]?") that he has declared a ban on discussing it. That does still not account for how we have to talk around Ganymede. (Thankfully, this troper's nowcurrent Humane class is reading the Iliad, and has done a fairly good job handing the values dissonance around women-as-"prize", as well as the role of the gods and the whole Patroclus deal.) * This troper is an Australian teaching English in Japan, and has bumped up against a few cases of Values Dissonance at his schools, particularly in the (somewhat patriotic) school culture festivals. Best example that pops into mind; a play about a group of modern teenagers who time-hop accidentally to the very end of WWII, meet a young pilot and his family, and discover he is due to fly a kamikaze mission the next day. They manage to prove to him that the war will be over tomorrow and his death will change nothing, but he chooses to fly the mission anyway rather than live to look after his wife and children. Aesop to Japanese students = [[HeroicSacrifice noble act of sacrifice and loyalty]], Aesop to Western observer = [[MartyrWithoutACause futile, tragic waste of a life]]. ** In general, Japanese classical literature and their culture in general highly romanticizes suicidal acts as noble sacrifices to ideals, loved ones, etc. It's probably the primary reason why Japan has one of the highest numbers of suicides per year of almost any developed nation. *** This is lampshaded during an exchange in the play ''M.

Butterfly'', a TakeThat to the opera ''Madama Butterfly'' (whose ending has [[spoiler:the titular character, a geisha, kill herself]]): ----> '''Song:''' "Consider it this way: what would you say if a blonde homecoming queen fell in love with a short Japanese businessman? He treats her cruelly, then goes home for three years, during which time she prays to his picture and turns down marriage from a young Kennedy. Then, when she learns he has remarried, she kills herself. Now, I believe you would consider this girl to be a deranged idiot, correct? But because it's an Oriental who kills herself for a Westerner -- ah! -- you find it beautiful." **** Dude, that's like, the plot of that [[TheGrudge movie]], without [[ItGotWorse messier results]]. ** This mindset may finally be slowly changing. A {{Toku}} show entitled ''{{K-tai Investigator 7}}'', which involves secret agents fighting cyberterrorism with AI-equipped cyborg cellphones, had one episode with a plot almost exactly like that WWII story, except it's caused by a cell phone signal blockage test that [[TheyJustDidntCare somehow]] causes the main character's phone to be able to talk back through time to a WWII pilot (the husband of the old lady who he's staying with for the episode) who is minutes away from divebombing into an American battleship. The final conversation before the blockage ends doesn't show the pilot's choice, but the next morning, the main character wakes up to a changed timeline, where the pilot is alive, and he and his wife suddenly have a parade of grandchildren helping take care of their farm, which the widow previously lived at all by herself. The pilot seems to show no remorse for choosing to stay alive, and in fact personally thanks the main character once he connects the dots upon hearing his name. * This [[EagleLand American]] troper finds that Socialism (or even being a bit collectivist) in the United States is enough to cause most people to flip out. Supporting SPUSA got me a warning from my parents that it could very well cost me a job. However, when I was in Europe, there were public banners and demonstrations for Socialist organizations. Why so individualist? * This troper knows a man who organized a multi-day dogsled trip in the Canadian Arctic for American tourists who wanted to experience "genuine" Inuit culture. In the middle of the trip they ran across a small group of caribou and the Inuit guides promptly demonstrated, to some of said tourists' shock, that part of genuine Inuit culture consisted of turning Rudolph the Reindeer (not to mention Dancer, Prancer, Vixen and the rest) into a bloody smear on the tundra for lunch. ** In this case, the dissonance obviously comes from the fact that said tourists know only the cute reindeers from cartoons and don't have to hunt them to get something to eat. * This troper was puzzled to see Americans shocked beyond reason at the thought of eating horse meat, going so far as to make it a plot in point in a ''{{Bones}}'' episode. In most of Western Europe, a horse sandwich is a perfectly normal lunch; anglophone countries treat it like a step below cannibalism. ** This American Troper would love to try a horsesteak (partly because its mentioned so much in {{A Song Of Ice And Fire}}) but he

knows of no one else. *** This Canadian Troper has eaten a horse sandwich, and found the meat to taste good, but it was tough. He wonders if a pony would be more tender. *** This American Troper had basashi (horsemeat sashimi) before he knew what it was. The school tried to pull the same thing on him with whale meat one day at lunch, but he refused it once he realized where it came from. *** This American troper ate horse once and never will again. No seriously, it's tough and gamey. Get a real meat. *** Where did you get it? This troper once heard at an anime convention panel on Japanese cooking that most countries that eat horse on a regular basis do a similar thing with cows and specifically breed certain animals to taste better, while most of the horseflesh sold in America comes from unsold stock at farm auctions (usually old or sick animals). I'm not sure how credible that information is though. ** [[{{Weaver}} This Troper]] can shed some light on the reluctance in Anglophone countries to eat horse. In ancient times horses were eaten in Britain, however the practice had links to the pagan beliefs of the time so when Christianity arrived in England during the AngloSaxon era it was cracked down on for being pagan and therefore 'wrong'. After a few centuries the whole thing was ingrained to the point where being disgusted at the idea is pretty much automatic. ** This troper doesn't know the episode (was it the [[FurryFandom Horse Play]] episode? In any case, horsemeat is generally considered dog food over here, so perhaps it wasn't moral outrage, just outrage at being given/taking low quality food. ** It also has to do with the fact that the horses were often treated cruelly when they were used for dog food over here, and often being abused before they are even sold to the people who slaughter them. It's more that the market is more notorious for being cruel than other animals used for meat. That's the way it was in the US before the policy for rounding up mustangs was reformed anyways. There were even stories of very expensive privatively owned horses being accidentally rounded up with the mustangs and slaughtered because no one bothered to check. ** Also, most horses over here are either pets or working animals or both. We have the same aversion to eating dogs or cats, despite them being not uncommon in some Asian cuisines. * This troper was absolutely fascinated to discover cigarette dispensers populating various locations in her new town, including bowling alleys and restaurants. They were complete with stickers declaring that the sale of tobacco to minors was illegal, but they were in no way regulated. Said troper proceeded to buy a pack of cowboy killers with QUARTERS! * This troper once read a passage by a slave trader where he describes loading slaves onto his ship... and then segues into a monologue about how black people aren't any worse then white people. The effect was absolutely bizarre. ** It's only in recent centuries that black people were slaves and white people were slaveowners and never the twain would meet. For most

of human history, people owned other people without concern for what they looked like. ** Indeed, enormous numbers of European migrants (men, women and children) in the colonial age (including most Britons in early America) bought sea passage by 'voluntarily' selling themselves into indentured servitude. This consisted of a 3-7 year stint as a slave sold by the captain of the ship upon landing (often breaking up families,) with your owner legally able to say where you can go, sell you to someone else, beat you, veto marriages, and have runaways executed. English peasantdom had only died out a century before America was colonized. ** During one of New Orleans' earlier Renaissance periods there was such a rapid social mobility that buying and selling your own slavery was pretty commonplace. And people treated their slaves well because the rapid social mobility worked both ways, and anyone could become a slave on a later day. * ThisTroper used to work for a rather large Korean company's US plant. The scarcity of high ranking female employees combined with this troper working with several Koreans whose wives used to work for the company... until they married an engineer and quit to raise children. * This Caucasian troper finds amusement in seeing black kids his age addressing one another as "nigga". For kicks, he now refers to his white friends as "crackers" and "honkies". ** Oooh. This Caucasian troper, who has never received discrimination for her race, hates it when white people, like RushLimbaugh and that chick from ''Good Day LA'', refer to themselves as "crackers" and "honkies" in the most cynical way. It's mind-boggling, really, and full of UnfortunateImplications about being jealous of receiving... the same kind of benefits that other races receive through Affirmative Action, for example. Perhaps it's just my DoubleStandard, but... I don't know. It just proves a part of the HumansAreBastards theory where the subject's problems are always perceived as worse than anyone else's. * This troper used to work in a coffee shop in a tourist area and was puzzled by Americans who talked on their cell phones, complained about the exchange rate, and still tipped better than even her favourite super-nice local customers. (Most Americans were also lovely customers, she hastens to add; it was that the ones who ''were'' rude but still tipped generously that confused her.) It was only when she travelled to the US herself that she learned how ingrained the tip jar is there. ** It's not just the tip jar. Tipping is rich source of Values Dissonance between countries. In a lot of places overseas service charges are included in the bill and tipping is just that: a gratuity for exceptional service. In America, however, many places are allowed to pay waitstaff less than minimum wage because twenty to thirty percent of their income is expected to be earned with tips. Hence why tipping less than fifteenth percent of the bill in America makes you a cheap bastard and why foreign tourists get a reputation for being lousy tippers. * [[{{Mysterynovelist}} This troper]] was dumb enough to tell her

mother 'whatever' one day when she got annoyed by her mother's nagging and got yelled at. Apparently in Africa (this troper is African American), you get your ass kicked for saying things like 'whatever'; In America (or at least where this troper lives) kids say much ''worse'' things to their parents and they do absolutely nothing. * [[MmmKay This troper]] oftentimes dreams of a world where [[RefugeInVulgarity swearing]], [[AlcoholIsPoison drinking]], [[SmokingIsCool smoking]], and the like are [[AC:''completely'' acceptable]] to put in [[AnimationAgeGhetto children's cartoons!]] Oftentimes, the supposedly offensive material is integral to the plot, such as an teens ''drinking alcohol'' to become '''[[SuperSentai a team of superheroes]]'''! * [[{{ThreeDog}} This Troper]] was very surprised to learn that there were actually people who wouldn't eat human corpses to save their lives and wouldn't kill one person to save more than one (assuming you did not know any of the people in question). ** A case of competing philosophies within a single time and place, I suppose - utilitarian vs deontological ethics, possibly. ** It's one thing to let people die. To actually kill somebody is something quite different. If you're willing to kill one person to save others as an answer to an ethical exercise, how far are you willing to take that principle in real life? If you could kill every Jew, Christian, and Muslim on earth in order to create a technological utopia where everybody else is free, prosperous and happy -- would you do it? [[EddieVanHelsing This troper]] wouldn't, even though he despises monotheism, because he thinks that if you willingly violate even a single person's rights in the name of your cause, you have irredeemably blackened your cause. The end does not justify the means. Instead, it is the means that justify your end. *** By that logic, every single cause in the history of the world has been "irredeemably blackened." Unless you can come up with some movement that hasn't had so much as a single member do something underhanded. Besides which, you seem to be assuming that killing every monotheist in the world would instantly create a global utopia, which is, frankly, disgusting. *** The fact that you're implying killing off religious people will solve ''anything'', never mind create a technological utopia, is some serious values dissonance. *** And apparently non-monotheistic religions are awesome and progressive... **** In any case there are some minor difficulties with all that. People have had an ''awful'' time trying to exterminate [[BadassIsraeli just one]] Monotheist religion. All three at once may be somewhat difficult. ** Um... Wow, would you "[[CompleteMonster people]]" mind telling me the [[strike:planet]] [[strike:subhuman species]] [[strike:[[{{Troll}} very lazy troll]]]] nation and culture where cannibalism is presently neither stigmatized as the most depraved transgression of the MoralEventHorizon conceivable nor banned under pain of the direst punishment possible? *** I'm not sure that's what the original troper is talking about so much as the fact that given no other option some people would rather

starve to death than eat human meat. *** Harsh words there. [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin I]] would hope to be right in naming most all cultures and nations, lest it is believed in some of them out there that the conduct with dead flesh is somehow more important than that with living flesh. ** Well, if you mean cannibalism in the sense of "hunting people for food", no culture today does that or likely ever did. I know that Maori would eat heir loved ones remains. Of course the Aztecs would eat parts of their sacrifices, but they were pretty close to being a real life ReligionOfEvil. ** There are actually some places where ritualistic cannibalization is still practiced. ThisTroper only knows because that's how some native groups (she's pretty sure they're not the Maori) got this weird disease because of a ceremony involving eating certain parts of their dead. And if the dead are infected with a delayed-reaction disease... *** That case actually took Western pathologists a while to trace because they weren't aware of the custom and the disease didn't appear until a few years after the eating. Getting the natives to stop their sacred traditional practice was another battle... *** If you're talking about the case I think you are, that disease was actually something similar to Mad Cow. **** It's called Kuru. ** The Kulina tribe of Brazil are similar. ** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasha_Spesivtsev Some serial killers]] [[http://serialkillercalendar.com/cannibals.html are]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Chikatilo just]] ''[[http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/cannibals1.html really]]''[[http://www.soccerpulse.com/forum/index.php?s=51b35dd661292 d5b3814db97946178f7&showtopic=77792&st=15&p=1027984&#entry1027984 ...]] [[http://www.shotsmag.co.uk/SHOTS%2016/Cannibal/cannibal.htm different.]] * [[Tropers/LadyBealzabub This troper]], having lived her entire life in a casino town, is often confused at some of her friends online reactions when she mentions going to casino restaurant. (Which ranges from neutral confusion to negative WTFing before clarifying that she lives in Nevada.) She's also boggled at people gawking at the bright lights and general... casino-ness of her home town. Then again, the thought of a town that basically turns off at five or six pm is equally boggling for me. * When [[RayAyanami this troper]] went to the Philippines about 15 years ago, he was shocked to discover that none of his relatives, or pretty much anyone else there for that matter, used seatbelts, even in the front seats. This still shocks him to this day, especially since Filipino streets are much, much worse than American streets. Ironically, Filipino drinking laws are more lax (the age to drink is only 18), and you don't hear much about drunk driving shenanigans over there. ** Tonga is the same (in both senses) and it is actually considered insulting to the driver to put on your seatbelt (since you obviously don't trust their driving). * In American arcades, when you're waiting your turn on an arcade game, you usually put your coin, card, or other such placeholder on

the machine to indicate that your turn is next. This troper went to a Filipino arcade two years ago, put a card on a ''Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 2'' machine, and the person playing ''continued anyway'', not even bothering to notice his card. The same held true at other arcades, where the "card line" is also not recognized--he found it awkward to have to ask to use the machine, which he needed to do if he wanted to play or else the person on the machine could keep playing until his or her credits ran out. ** This troper never saw anything like that at his American arcade (although it could be because it was less crowded); most people looking to play waited around until the person got done without doing anything to secure their place in line. * This Texan Troper has heard some rather interesting remarks about the recent decline in number of European nations that have the death penalty. One of the more amusing bits of gallows humor was from a University friend who went to Germany during the summer one year. Everytime he was asked why American's keep the death penalty his response would be some variation of "y'all thought you needed to get rid of it, we just put in an express lane". He took pictures on his cellular phone of some of the reactions, most are rather... amusing. ** The core of that is probably that in the USA, jails are usually seen as a way to dish out revenge on criminals while in Europe, they're more often seen as a literal correction facility. * Chad-Stieger here: Before I clarified some details reguarding the tv show "Smallville" (which is a modern day story of Superman), my Japanese buddy thought said show was a harsh American deconstruction of the Super Sentai genre directed for teenage super sentai fans. With Clark Kent as the lone red ranger to defend earth from the monster of the week. With his parents transitoning from parental guardians to mentors instead of the traditonal mentors of super sentai. Instead of morphing into a sentai and fighting monsters with BFS's Clark must fight with his hands and feet in street clothes without fancy fighting moves, or a vehicle and Clark Kent has to fight in secret and in night time in order to protect his family from the negative consequences of the super sentai lifestyle. This troper's Japanese buddy finds the human monsters such as the Kryptonite freaks and the phantom zoners scarier in that they're humans who act like monsters instead of the horror monsters that populate Super Sentai shows. Acording to this troper's Japanese buddy "Smallville" is unique for an alien who defends his earthly home where as in Super Sentai shows it's the aliens who attack. The Japenese buddy is dismayed when Clark shows unprofessional behavior by sneaking girlfriends in the house for sex and also goes into fits of rage at the female fanservice when Clarks clothes are damaged or when his new friend Lois Lane sees him naked for the first time. ** That is the single greatest AlternativeInterpetation of 'Smallville' that this troper has ever heard. *** Seconded. Shame it's not actually the case, it'd probably improve the show if it was. * One of this troper's friends was hosting a Japanese exchange student. The two shared the experience of reading ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', and seemed to have very... different

experiences of it. (Also, while this might just be a personal preference on the exchange student's part, she doesn't seem to trust teenage boys with flippy hair, whereas her host girl finds them gorgeous.) * [[TsundeRay This troper]] is studying computer science in San Jose, California (in other words, the Silicon Valley region), and many of the classes at the college he attends, including the introductory courses, involve programming in Java. His friend from Seattle thinks it's [[strike:interesting]] [[strike:weird]] outright stupid that said college would teach Java instead of C++ . ** This troper, who also was a CS major and attended college in Silicon Valley agrees. As do all his TAs from the terrible introductory Java courses, and every teacher under 40. Guess which teachers taught Java and are the heads of the program? That's right. The ones who are all over sixty and can't actually program in C. *** Let's just say that the college I go to, San Jose State, is a disgrace to CS for teaching in Java, the worst programming language ever conceived (besides whatever excretement Microsoft shits out) and does not deserve its reputation as a top-tier CS college. *** What insane CS department teaches C at an introductory level? I taught myself C, and even being a tech guy it was a pain. When I got to college and learned simpler languages like Java and Python it was a blessing. And honestly, most people who end up in intro CS at non engineering colleges are going to end up in application or web programming, where C is useless and knowing Java is practically a requirement for getting a job. Those who oppose teaching Java in introductory courses generally fall into 3 camps: 1. those who think even Java is too hard and want to teach Python 2. Elite colleges that teach functional languages and 3. Overly competitive tech guys who feel superior having learned in C. ** Speaking as an alum of SJSU's CS department, [[Tropers/NeoChaos I]] can tell you the reason for that is because Sun Microsystems is a HUGE sponsor of the department. The machines used for Unix lessons are all running Sun's Solaris OS and yes, Sun's own Java language is also the preferred language of the department at the company's urging. ** This troper is a CS major at the University of Washington (in Seattle) and the introductory CS courses here are also taught in Java... * There was a very smart Mexican girl at this troper's high school (good enough to rank in the top 1% and have a promising career ahead of her). Her parents pulled her out of school so she could find a husband (believing that her schooling was getting in the way), get married, settle down, and lead a happy domestic life. Her teachers were flabbergasted and still tell her story, especially during certain parts of Psychology class. ** They also dragged her away from AP Testing and finals to visit family in Mexico for two months, all without her previous knowledge. This one is mentioned by troper's Comparative Government classes to teach people the value of globalization and ValuesDissonance. **** Values Dissonance my ass, I'm Mexican and I think (Just like most of my family) that was awful. **** Agreed by this Mexican-American troper, but who once shared a

class with fellow Mexican girls, one of who, at the age of fifteen, was already engaged to a boy in Mexico, chosen by her parents, and her friends treating this as perfectly normal. I think this may have been a case (as possibly in the above example) of modern vs 'traditional' values, that a girl should marry and start a family early, and obey her family unquestionably (a notion that has been shared by many cultures). Even knowing this, it still makes this troper shudder at the idea of sharing such a fate. **** I'm Mexican, and I think I can explain it: I'm from Monterrey, usually called the "most Mexicanized USA city" as a way to insult or just to make fun of us, but that pretty much explains it all: We have a big (and growing) population of immigrants from more "traditionalist" states, and there are strong cultural differences between the "old-native" population (those with at least two or three generation of history in our state, tending to be more "westernized" and "progressist") and the immigrant population (newcomers and their children, usually with more traditional and "nationalistic" values); There is no big problem and nothing really serious to create conflict, but some attitudes from one side tend to shock the other from time to time; I can't talk for other urbanized Mexican zones, but I'm pretty sure their situations may be similar. **** This troper is an American citizen living in Mexico. I'm a 25 year old female who is unmarried without kids, and frequently get anywhere from "Old Maid" to [[UnPerson less-than-fully-human]] treatment whenever people here discover my marital status. [[SarcasmMode The best part]] is that I have to be careful about how I even talk to guys here, as my "flirting" could have dire consequences for me and my job here. * This (Scottish) troper has once or twice seen the term {{Lolicon}} applied to relationships/fanservice involving 16 and 17 year old girls, and been very surprised--the age of consent in the UK is 16. ** Yeah, we Americans are apparently staunch believers that the "children" in "Our children are being corrupted!" applies to everyone still being formally educated. *** What makes it even more ridiculous is that the age of consent in most states is around 16-17. * When this Asian troper (born and raised in the US) and her mother (born and raised in Asia, immigrated to the US late in her life) get into an argument, her mother will often comment on how children in traditional Asian families would unquestionably respect and obey their elders, in contrast with American families where children smartmouthing their parents is a common and expected occurrence. The same troper has also been thrown off-guard by certain Asian customs she never heard about before, such as it being extremely impolite to step over the sleeping head of someone older than her. (Even when said older person is her cousin in a sleeping bag on the floor of her US home where there isn't much room to maneuver.) ** This seems to be universal among Asian-Americans. This IndianAmerican troper has been scolded quite a bit for the same things. It seems that in addition to the hatred of smart-mouthing, its impossible to contradict your elders on any subject while in public. Also, I learned that kicking someone is considered the ultimate insult, or

putting your feet on anybody in general. ** It can be partially explained by language differences. Most Asian languages have a delineated colloquial form (for friends) and a polite form (for elders and authority). Modern American English, on the other hand, is not so precise (though it does exist). Speech patterns between children and parents in Western vs. Eastern cultures are thus ''very'' different, and misunderstandings are greatly exacerbated by perceived "insubordination" on the child's part (especially when the children and parents code-switch in the home). In short, when you say "What?" in response to a question when your parents are expecting "Excuse me?"... ** This troper has had a great number of arguments with his younger sisters. The smartmouthing, indifference, and general lack of respect drive this troper up the wall; his mother's [[ArmorPiercingSlap slaps]] when his sisters push their discourtesy that little bit too far are events to be put on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. * [[SovietKitty This troper]] is neither ashamed nor sorry to admit that she finds the idea of casual sex absolutely repugnant. Just... no. ** Seconding. It doesn't help that most of the girls at her school have exactly the opposite view, despite five of them having STD scares and another girl who had two pregnancy scares within a month. This lurker is still often expected to justify her asexuality because 'to not be interested in trying sex is unnatural at our age'. This lurker is the oldest in her year group at 16. *** Thirded by [[AllanAokage moi.]] *** Fourthded by [[SamHuddy yo.]] *** While [[{{Skazka}} this troper]] is just grossed out by the thought of having to have sex. Casually or no. Other people can have it (within reason, preferably not where I have to watch) and I won't blame them, but there's a huge disconnect between "having sex" and "fun". *** Fifthded by [[CalamityJane this gal right hea]]. ** [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin This one]] would like to know what you mean by casual sex. Because when I hear "casual sex" I think "consensual sex with one's partner", which I'm pretty certain constitutes most of the sex most people have. Is what we're talking about here instead "sex with complete strangers, often and unprotected"? Also, and I'm not trying to get psychoanalyst on anyone here, but I'm seriously curious about why someone would find sex repulsive. To me it's just a thing, and it makes as much sense to me to find... sporks repulsive (sporks too can hurt you terribly if used wrong, and if not cleaned regularly after use, they too can become quite unsanitary). Enlighten me, please. *** Casual sex: sex with someone who you are not dating (or greater) and do not have any intention to date. ** This troper is neither ashamed nor sorry to admit that she enjoys casual sex. You know what, I think sex is awesome, and I see nothing wrong with screwing someone you don't intend on dating as long as you be safe and have fun and no one gets hurt. It's fine if it's not really your cup of tea, but kindly keep your morality out of my vagina, kthx.

*** Seconded by [[{{soojinyeh}} me]]. I would've put "morality" in quotes since there's nothing wrong with consensual sex. It's fine if you personally don't like it and don't want to do it, but don't try to pressure others into thinking the same way or shame them. *** Thirded by me! This troper detests the far-reaching pressures and stigmas that society feels the need to shove in her face. What we do consensually is none of your fucking business, and Moral Guardians need to stop trying to make people ASHAMED of their sexuality under the guise of "self-respect". *** Fourthed by this male troper. Seriously, I am tired of everyone being so anti-sex and porn. When you think about it, it's actually unnatural and actually perhaps a genetic flaw to be anti-sex, as humans evolved to have sex. We evolved upright walking to gather more food as a sort of bribe to get the women to have sex. We evolved our intelligence due to the upright walking. That's right, the only reason we're the smartest creature on this planet is because we wanted sex. HOMO SAPIENS EXIST BECAUSE WE WANTED TO FUCK. The ones that didn't evolve to walk upright slowly evolved into our closest relative, the chimpanzee. We aren't chimps because we were horny. **** See now, that, right there, no, that doesn't make sense. There are diverse, various, and sundry theories on the origins of bipedalism, and that one sounds patently false, due to the obvious fact that both the ancestors of chimpanzees and the ancestors of humanity clearly engaged in reproduction. Please don't use nonsense pseudo-science explanations to justify your arguments about morals. ***** Wrong. First off, they are, far enough back, the same ancestors. Second, it was something on a National Geographic documentary. Third, it was to give more food and therefor get more sex. The others still reproduced, they just slowly split. *** Fifthed by This Troper, who harbors a sincere dislike for the eternal human tendency to assume that not having fun is, somehow, a good thing in itself. **** Excuse me, but people who don't find sex fun are no more wrong or unnatural than people who don't find video games fun. That's why this discussion is being listed under Values Dissonance, isn't it? Also, we're no longer monkeys. As the most intelligent creatures on the planet, as you say, every member of Homo sapiens has the intelligence and the right to individually make these decisions. *** Okay by me, if you in turn respect our ethical decisions. *** So it's casual sex for some, a miniature country flag of your choice for others!! * When this troper was a student teacher, she found herself engaged in a conversation with a student in her college prep class, who marvelled that in Canada, women can marry men who make less money than they do, and if anyone comments on it are free to say "butt out". Similarly to the fact that unmarried men and women frequently live together - usually without any intention of marrying later. The conversation never got around to same-sex marriage - the troper decided it wasn't the right time to bring it up, but it likely would have resulted in even more astonished, even shocked, gasps. * This troper, a Canadian, found herself explaining to classful of flabberghasted French high school students that in her province, you

must be nineteen to buy alcohol or go into a bar. Yes, just to go ''into'' the bar, even if you don't plan to drink there. Oh, and you can't smoke in any indoor place accessible to the public - not coffee shops, not restaurants, not pubs. Period. Jaws were scraping the floor. * This troper, born and raised in Texas, often finds herself at odds with the more conservative residents of said state when it comes to abstinence-only education. Mainly because she knows many people who, despite their children supposedly being born a month or two premature (almost always, it's the wedding that was late), still insist that giving kids access to contraceptives and condoms will make them have sex. Right. You'd think that they'd realize, what with their premature babies, that it doesn't matter if you talk to kids about sex or give them access to contraceptives and condoms; if they want to have sex, they most likely will. However, making access more available will hopefully cut down on teen pregnancy and reduce [=STDs=]. ** In the Netherlands, schools can be fined for abstinence-only sex education. Personally, I always found the American way of promoting abstinence was somewhat odd. After all, in sex education, teaching children how '''not''' to have sex seems a lot like [[CompletelyMissingThePoint missing the point]] of the course. *** I would like to point out that you're wrong to assume everywhere in the US puts emphasis on abstinence. This Troper (from the [[MotorCity metro Detroit]] area) only remembers abstinence being mentioned as either an afterthought or as a fail-safe way to avoid [=STDs=] and pregnancy. It really depends on how conservative the area is. * Americans, feel free to box her ears and correct her if she has got the wrong end of the stick, but this British troper is puzzled by the American habit of using 'white' as an insult, and finds it quite offensive. Every now and then, she'll see a comment like "Those people are the whitest I've ever met" where 'white' is meant to be derogatory, or someone will leave a comment about people being 'too white' or 'laughably white'. This seems to be an acceptable insult in the US, but it doesn't really exist in the UK, and when this troper hears it she thinks it sounds racist- especially because she could imagine the ugly reactions if someone accused someone else of being 'too black'. ** When people use "white" as an insult, they're invoking WhiteDudeBlackDude. It's usually done playfully. ** No, you're pretty much spot-on. It's almost always said jokingly, used to refer to several supposed bad characteristics in white people (uncoolness, lack of street smarts, inability to dance, etc.) - but even jokingly, you couldn't get away with using "black" as an insult. It's a double-standard where blacks cannot be insulted for being black, but whites can be insulted for being white - consider it a backlash left over from shameful times. * This troper's Polish-American grandfather was nicknamed "The Jap" by his friends due to his narrow eyes and black hair. * This troper is a first generation immigrant whose family is from Mexico. Once I got into politics I was amazed at how several people were shocked at the mere though of spanking a kid bare-handed when

this troper received a leather belt after a shower for showing disrespect to his mother. Heck, few people at my university believe I've been working construction since age twelve seeing as many of their first jobs were fast food joints at age 16/17. What's normal in one culture is seen as parental negligence [[EagleLand here]]. * This Australian lurker has to constantly remind himself that in [[EagleLand America]] 21 is such big deal as it allows you to 'go to a bar and drink to the fact that you've been able to drive and die in a war for the past 3 years'. In Australia you use your newly acquired drivers' license (at 18) to show you are now old enough to buy alcohol. Leads to such jokes as 'license to get pissed and wrap my parents car around a tree'. ** This Canadian troper was surprised and annoyed, after going to a casino for his 18th birthday, that you have to be 21 to go gambling in America. ** Another Australian Troper here. Just to reinforce the point, when I watched The Social Network the other week I was mightily confused by the fact that there was a problem with people in their late teens drinking. It wasn't until a few hours after the movie I remembered that 21 was the legal drinking age. *** Only if they are serving alcohol in the casino. * My mother tells a story of when she was in school in the southern USA, nearly 50 years ago. She was drawing a person and happened to color him in with a pitch-black crayon. The universal response: "Haha, (Mom's name) drew a n* gger!" (Most of these kids had never even ''seen'' a black person - the whole concept of other races was funny and alien. So I'm guessing it was more an ignorant reaction to novelty than real racist intent. But ''still''...) ** How the heck could kids living in the southern US fifty years ago ''not'' have seen black people? They made up half the population in the South then! ** The "not having seen a black person" thing reminds me of my neighbor. He's very friendly and not at ''all'' racist (most of his employees are from Jamaica) but he claims that until he left home to go to college he didn't know that things like "black people" or "divorce" even ''existed''. I know that we live in a very white state and that back when he was growing up there probably weren't any black people on TV, but how the hell did his high school history class teach about slavery or the Civil War without mentioning blacks?! * This troper once related to his Canadian classmates about the life of a Chinese high school student near graduation. His classmates actually asked him if the schools were run by terrorists. * This troper heard his Spanish professor use a variant of the "eenie meenie miney moe" rhyme substituting "[[ColdWar Russian]]" for "tiger." He [[LampshadeHanging admitted]] he was a product of his time. ** The original had a different word, a certain racial epithet describing black people. * The Californian Proposition 8 ads. To this Dutch troper, a rich source of {{Narm}}. However, I did find myself wondering why parents should have the right to object against gay marriage being taught in public schools ([[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOWjhqT_me8 and it

will be taught]]). Or, for that matter, why children learning about gay marriage would be a bad thing. ** Why shouldn't parents have the right to object to something? It's their kids and their taxes paying for the school. You may not ''agree'' with them, but they ''do'' have the right to object. *** No, they really don't. It's a school. You may disagree with what they teach, but you don't directly object to it. If what they teach is inappropiate, you can file a complaint with the proper authorities, but teaching children about marriage (including same-sex marriage) simply isn't inappropiate. Hence, a parent may not like that their child learns about "a prince marrying a prince", but they should accept it nonetheless. **** Well that's the thing about America- people are quite willing and able to tell off the government for no better reason than they feel like it, and we wouldn't have it any other way. We also tend to be willing to tell off other people because we feel like it, hence the strong resistance to such things as hate crimes laws. Considering the First Amendment, in America the people have a right to object to anything the government does and scream about it as loud as they care to. ** For that matter, this [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin troper]] wonders why anyone would feel it necessary to be 'taught': "Some people are gay, and in recent historical developments, now they can be married. Lesson's over kids, come back tomorrow"? ** I think the main objection here is, with America being a predominately Christian nation, a lot of parents are concerned that something they see as abnormal or [[HeteronormativeCrusader just plain wrong]] is being taught as a perfectly normal counterpart to traditional sexuality and marriage. If it was simply taught as part of a history lesson, I think few would have a problem with it. However, many parents fear that allowing "[[StrawPolitical liberal ideals]]" into the classroom will undermine their children's morals. *** It's not so much that it's being taught, it's that it's being taught as ''normal''. *** Yes, but [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin I'm]] curious about these "gay marriage classes" themselves, and what exactly they teach; That it is "normal", and everyone sits down to watch a gay documentary about gay prejudice? Or do they teach the "how", step by step, with an inebriated pastor, rings and paperwork supplied for practice? Or is it just an elaborate excuse for the teacher to bum and let the students argue and call each other names for 45 minutes? * This troper finds that civilian guns bring up some incredibly strong values dissonance. It varies a lot between people ,families ,regions countries, religions, and even years. To some people, owning a gun, even a military assault rifle, is perfectly okay, reasonable, and understandable. For others, even a .22 pistol is cause for serious alarm and they wouldn't even want to see a picture of a gun in their house. For example, if I walked around with my AK out and loaded on my back in the Shenandoah Blue Ridge area of Virginia, nobody would really care. However, if did the same in my local area in the NoVA (Northern Vrigina) area, people would be [[HolyShitQuotient freaking the]] [[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] [[DoesNotLikeGuns out]] and I'd

probably arrested and charged, if not outright killed and I'd definitely end up on the news. * This troper would have no problem with exterminating a sapient extraterrestrial species, or with another species exterminating us. The whole equation of speciesism with racism is a fallacy. It all started in the golden age of scifi when authors wanted to address racism, but had to use alien proxies because no editor in their right mind would have allowed it to be published. And it contiues to this day with Avatar and District 9 even though we can and have made movies about racism. All humans have roughly the same physical and mental capabilities, are capable of thinking alike, and can interbreed. But species that are alien to eachother may be so different that the way they express mathmatics may be incomprehensible to each other making communication impossible. Not to mention they may not be able to think alike because the structure of their brains are completely different. It's not a "humans are superior thing" as much as a humans and aliens are actually different thing.the sheer difference in morality and apperance would make war with alien races almost inevitable. There is no reason to guess that a sufficiently advanced alien race should share our appearance or biology. They might not be able to communicate or have any analogies to our multifarious cultures. At best there would be a Demiliterized Zone type of situation. ** "...but see, they're ''really'' different from us! So it's okay to exterminate them!" *** (Summary of the following [[WallOfText clusterf*ck]]): [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin Someone]] then asserted that morality is false, and a bunch of people disagreed until someone sensibly suggested the topic be discussed somewhere better suited for ''philosophical'' dissonance as opposed to ''values'' dissonance. The question of where has been moved to [[{{Tropers/Vilui}} that tropers]] discussion page. * This troper has encountered this trope on a fair few forums, when the topic of healthcare of all things comes up. While it's common knowledge that the USA doesn't have free healthcare, it was a shock to find out that people were fine with this and were actually ''strongly opposed'' to the idea of not having to pay for medical treatment, even if they have ended up on the short end of the stick in the past. Understandably, the European and Canadian posters were flabbergasted by this. ** This troper is flabbergasted that anyone would want to pay for something they could get for free. *** Frequently, when you pay for something you have a bit more say in what form it takes, or so it seems to me. **** You also get to avoid such things as people sticking their noses in places they don't belong. *** We can't have it for free. We could pay for it with taxes, but that's hardly the same thing. ** This attitude tends to grow out of the average American's ''huge'' distrust of government and the belief that government is full of {{Obstructive Bureaucrat}}s that will fill healthcare (or anything for that matter) with rationing and mountains of paperwork. We also tend to think that private individuals and companies will almost always to

a better job at it. *** We Americans also don't like being told what to do and would rather pay for a treatment that ''we'' have picked, then have the government decide how we will be treated for us. *** There is also the additional tax hike that would come with nationalized healthcare. Americans ''hate'' taxes and [[{{Understatement}} don't like the idea]] of having to pay for [[{{ptitlea50k2rj99g16}} someone else's problem]], [[BerserkButton especially]] when that problem is the sick person's own fault. *** From this Canadian troper's perspective, it's the private HMOs and health insurance companies that are the ones full of {{Obstructive Bureaucrat}}s who are rationing healthcare and burying patients and doctors alike under mountains of paperwork. And besides, aren't the private companies the ones deciding how you will be treated? I've read about Canadian doctors who went to the U.S. because they thought they made more money, but then turned around and ''came back to Canada'' because they got fed up with the IncompetenceInc nature of the U.S. health care industry that forced them to spend more time filling out forms than actually treating patients. *** and YourMileageMayVary on whether or not it is just the sick person's problem. I'd like as few contagious people running around as possible, thank you very much. And it is hardly ever a person's fault if they get sick. I know that if you need care so badly you will die otherwise then you'll be willing to sell your house, go into debt or whatever it takes but...wouldn't you rather not have to resort to such drastic measures. *** This troper has spent the last ''four years'' as carer for his mother, who has a cancer that struck completely out of the blue, unrelated to any direct cause in her lifestyle, diet or anything else. We've nonetheless managed to continue to live a comfortable existence, not exactly normal but as close to it as possible, thanks to living in a country with a decent nationalised healthcare system. Sorry if I offend anyone by saying this, but it comes across as ''unbelievably petty'' when Americans complain about nationalised health care meaning there are fewer choices -- forgetting that without it, people who can't afford health care under their system have ''no choice at all'' and thus are denied their basic human rights to dignity and quality of life. (It's also utter nonsense -- ''at no stage'' was my mother ''ever'' required to take a treatment without full discussion of the options and her choice being the most important consideration.) *** Petty? A lot of people can barely afford healthcare for themselves and their families. Asking them to pay for healthcare treatment for a total stranger is completely ludicrous. Do you know how many people there are in this country? *** I think the typical American view on universal healthcare can be summed up thusly: "There are millions of people who are sick but can't afford health care? Fuck 'em! ''I'm'' not sick, and ''I'' can afford it, so why should I care about those idiots? It's probably their own fault they're sick/poor anyway!" *** That's just it, most Americans don't understand how national healthcare works, how much it would cost them in taxes, and what would be covered. People don't realize that the government pays a fraction

of the cost for medical procedures and medication, and that the tax rise wouldn't cost them nearly as much as they think. It'd probably be less than their insurance currently costs them. Unfortunately, there is a lot of misinformation being spread around by people who are against national healthcare that plays right into people's fears, like the death panels that were so popular during election season. People think the government is going to give the bare minimum for a huge amount of money and leave the high and dry when they get cancer or pass a certain age even though that would be really stupid for the government to do. * For a lot of people, it ''is'' their own fault that they've gotten sick. Smokers? Alcohol abusers? People who run around doing reckless (and in some cases, illegal) things? Unprotected promiscuity? Those people ''are'' to blame for their own illness. And it ''would'' be nice if we could somehow provide affordable healthcare to every person. My problem is the idea that the government has to be involved and that it has to force people. * I know I'll take a lot of flack for this, but I hate the song ''Imagine'' by John Lennon. Television Without Pity put their finger on why I dislike it: it sounds like the theme song for the [[Series/DoctorWho Cybermen]]. Once we remove all differences and anything worth fighting for, then we'll all live in peace! And life will be really boring! Honestly John, you can't just stop at getting rid of religion, nationalism and personal property. People will still find ways to sin against each other. You're basically talking about smoothing the sharp edges off of human nature itself. As someone who sees HumansAreFlawed as one of the reasons that life is worth living, Lennon seems to be singing about TheEvilsOfFreeWill. TakeThat moronic 60s idealism! ** So [[HumansAreFlawed Man's greed, racial conflict and own dickyness]] is what makes life worth living? [[ValuesDissonance okaaayy...]] ** There's a key difference between removing humans dickyness about their differences and removing those differences altogether. ** [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin This]] troper asserts that the question is too complicated by the [[YourMileageMayVary subjective nature]] of the concepts of 'dickyness', 'worth', the origin of conflict, etc. to ever be adequately resolved. ** This troper dislikes that song, too. At first, she thought it was for the "no heaven" part, because the idea of heaven is (while probably not strictly traditional) very important to her. Then, it dawned on her - the real problem she had with the song was more the idea of the world being "as one." It wouldn't be as much of a problem if it was a kind of loving one another while still retaining diversity kind of one-ness (one that allowed people to believe in heaven, for instance), but as it is, it sounds so... Borg-like. Maybe if the world "lives as one" some of us will retreat to a mountaintop somewhere away from the world so we can enjoy being ourselves. * I have relatives who live in Texas, and they like to go hunting and send us pictures of the things they kill. Most of my family think this is horrifying.

* [[{{Bergil}} This troper]] has a few examples. ** For one thing, I don't see why anyone would want to prevent people from expressing wrong or even evil opinions. If an opinion is not presented, it will never be argued against, and people will never hear the arguments against it, so they will forget why it is wrong over the generations, and when someone poes pormote it, no-one will be able to prove that it is wrong. This often puts me in the bizzare position of being an atheist sympathising with creationists. *** Very nice argument, and [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin I]] must acquiesce with it - except when it comes to the exceptions. First off the top of [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin my]] head is the little incident when my dad found out my little brother thought there was a man in the sky called God. Turns out he was told that in school, and dad had to spend a long time undoing the damage, if you will - explaining why a boy in first-grade shouldn't listen to his teachers, as it were. We can argue forever what seperates indoctrination from expressing an opinion, so let's not, and don't even think about arguing religion! **** The idea that that constitutes 'damage' (apart from the fact that teachers really aren't supposed to be imposing their religious beliefs) is itself ValuesDissonance. **** Giving people false information can be very damaging. ***** The "false information" part is again ValuesDissonance for a large segment of the population. ****** "I don't see why anyone would want to prevent people from expressing wrong or even evil opinions"... Umm, mate... you do realise that no one prevented the creationists from expressing their opinions? Indeed, this troper would argue that the creationist movement had a DAMN GOOD run for how scant and shaky the evidence they were able to scrape together was... They were able to take their case to court, had their views heard by judges and all throughout the media and their views were seriously considered to be included in school science tuition. Ultimately, "intelligent design" was delcared not to be scientifically valid, which, based on the facts and evidence the judges were shown, was the only reasonable conclusion they could draw. So ultimately the creationists correctly lost the right to force their unvalidated views into science courses that deal with validated scientific therom, but DAMN did their voices ever get heard! So I really have to ask, where exactly is this "prevent people from expressing opinions" thing coming from? I certainly hope it isn't just the creationism movement, as it is, in fact, a shining example of freedom of speech in action. ** In addition, I find the whole idea of patriotism or identity politics and such absurd. I didn't choose where I was born or who I'm descended from, why should I feel any loyalty to either. *** Because it doesn't matter that you didn't choose it. It's still who you are. **** You shouldn't be loyal to anything but things you chose for yourself. ** and finally, an example that actually caused problems. In relative terms, how evil are the following things that a bully did to me in high school. 1- made extremely racist statements, knowing that I have ChronicHeroSyndrome and will object in an emotional way, which he

finds hilarious. 2- spread rumors that I am racist for the same reason. 3- Spout religious dogma at me knowing that I am an atheist for the same reason. 4- constantly support historical and fictional tyrants, and ideologies that he knew I considered evil up to and including quoting NineteenEightyFour at me, for the same reason. 5quote thing I said in a stupid voice. 6-[[FoeYay offer to give me a lap dance]], hopefully for the same reason. To me the last was so much less offensive (slightly {{squick}}y vs evil or insulting), that I didn't even bother reporting it. To the teachers, the last was sexual abuse and because of that automatically worse then any other kind of abuse. Too bad they didn't hear about that until they were already inclined to be on his side due to the fact that I had started several fights. *** Wow, that'd be hilarious if it wasn't... you know. But seriously, while [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin I]] don't really know all the variables, it sounds like this guy spends a lot of time and energy on you. Maybe he ''was'' hoping you answer yes to that last one. Anyway, to answer. -1: He's a douchebag. -2: That's serious. You are permitted to slander right back. -3: I myself wouldn't be very offended, just annoyed. -4: That last one with 1984 sounds rather like he's making a strawman of himself, that is if your views on free speech are an indication of where you stand in the political relations in that book... but otherwise the same as 3. There's too many idiots in the world to do anything but ignore them. -5: He's an unimaginative douchebag. -6: Yeah, I'd pretty much just be squicked, too. *** Honestly? [[ValuesDissonance I wouldn't even think to call any of the bully's actions "evil," and I would probably see you as being in the wrong for starting "several fights" if by that you mean physical altercations.]] *** I agree with the above comment. The bully's actions sound less evil and more the bully just being stupid. You starting a fist fights and physically hurting someone is worse. * This toper saw a "Become a Fan of" option on Facebook about how Phil and Lil's mom on ''Rugrats'' was apparently a lesbian. [[SarcasmMode Because you can't be a third wave feminist in a midNineties show without liking women.]] ** Well, it would be hard to be a feminist if you dislike women. (Badum-TISH!) * I, a Korean-American, have a lot of fun telling my horrified, notAsian friends about the awesomeness of public baths, how you're basically naked in front of other naked strangers, and that the one of the main points is that you're supposed to do it with friends/family. Then they get more horrified when I tell them there's several of these baths in New York. In an slight aversion, public baths are apparently starting to get more popular, as I've lately seen the baths full of people of various races. ** This troper completely fails to see the attraction of public baths, although this is mainly because they neither trust or particuarly like other people, as well as preferring to have as many layers of fabric between themselves and the world as possible. To their mind, walking around starkers in public is just asking for trouble.

*** I also agree. I don't particularly want to see older people walking around with no clothes on. Maybe I'm shallow, but pass the brain bleach, please. *** Well you see, it's terribly convenient if you happen not to have access to a private bath: Being homeless doesn't mean you have to be a bum, for example. And what about the obligatory wash before you jump into public swimming pools? Is there a lot of stalls, or do you wash up in your swimsuits? **** Swimsuits of course. You get changed (usually in a cubicle), shower, walk through a little foot bath thing between the changing room and the pool, then get in the pool as quickly as possible. Quite a few people skip the shower part though, hence the large amount of chlorine in the pool. When you get out it's the same system in reverse. As for people who don't have access to a private bathroom, there are some showering facilities in cubicles available in various places where there's a need for them. Dossers and what not apparently either sneak into places like leisure centres to have showers or wash up in public toilets (according to what I've read anyway). There used to be public bathhouses but they've fallen out of use. *** Wow. I was being sarcastic when I suggested swimsuited showers. **** (Original poster) Chlorine? Hells no! You're supposed to shower first before getting into the tubs! The tubs are for soaking and relaxing! (And swimsuits are usually not allowed). Or maybe I should have been more specific about public baths in spas... ** I remember a family vacation where one of the attractions near where we were staying was a Japanese-style bathhouse. My parents decided it would be a good bonding activity....Although I understand that although I see nothing wrong with families taking baths together in public bathhouses, I'd be lying if I said I felt 100% comfortable.... * After hearing someone describe American history lessons as 'sanitized' this British troper came to the conclusion that attitudes regarding what is acceptable for children to learn about differ on either side of the pond, given that when they learnt about the Vikings in primary school (they would have been about eight or nine at the time), stuff like the mutilation of slaves, slaves being killed to be buried with their master and slavery itself were covered, among other things. Learning about the Eqyptians included fairly detailed descriptions of mummification, a trip to a reproduction of a 18th century port included descriptions and depictions of press ganging, naval discipline and the living conditions on ships, and an educational video on the Victorians that they watched in class when they were ten or eleven included depictions of child labor, corporal punishment and a child dying of cholera, among other things. And that was nothing compared to some of the stuff covered in secondary school, which before the age of fifteen included the Black Death, medieval execution methods and other punishments, a number of beheadings, the trans-Atlantic slave trade (in fairly graphic detail), trench warfare and the effects of gas attacks, and the Holocaust. This troper isn't sure, but they have a feeling that the above would make the average American have a fit. ** As an American troper, I have to say that we do learn about that.

The only thing that's really sanitized at my school is, of course, sex education, and only because it's an uber-Catholic private school. Of course, yes, there would be some boys and girls in my class who would have a fit about that, but they are the same people who think that you can't get pregnant if you aren't married. ** I'm curious about how these "sanitized" lessons you were told about, because I can say they clearly didn't have the same history classes as I did. In third grade (ages 8-9) we were given a pretty graphic depiction of the slave trade and slavery in America, in fourth grade we watched a painfully realistic depiction of conditions for soldiers during the civil war including hospital conditions and POW camps, in fifth grade (10) we learned a lot about the holocaust in great detail-I had nightmares for weeks after we finished that unitand in sixth grade (11-12) we studied ancient civilizations in all their gory glory. My history classes were not sanitized at all when I was younger. In middle school/jr. high I had geography, american government, and a world's culture class, so I didn't have a real history class again until I was 15. By that point the classes were more focused on the governments and the big picture than the gory little details. * This troper has had a lot of interesting generational values dissonance experience with his parents and grandparents. When I reacted with (mostly) shock to them referring to a girl walking past our car as a "pretty oriental," they were very offended at the concept that they couldn't call Asians "orientals." They sort of grumbled about political correctness and liberals not wanting them to be able to describe things. My dad also refers to black people as "blacks" pretty much exclusively, which would be a tad abrasive to some young people not used to it, but much more abrasive (if not at least strange-sounding) is when he says things like "Well, if I were a black." ** On that subject, this troper found themselves mediating a large knot of confusion between British and American friends who suddenly learned the hard way that America and Britain treat the terms 'oriental' and 'asian' completely differently. Traditionally, Americans tend to be thinking of people from the 'Far East' when they say 'Asian'. Also, to them, 'Oriental' has a bad history that has led to it being regarded as an insulting term. However, in Britain, 'Asian' traditionally refers predominantly to people from South Asia and the term 'Oriental' has none of the negative connotations that it has in America. At one point, this troper's (British) Chinese friends were feeling very insulted by a group of Americans trying to tell them they were wrong to ''not'' feel insulted, while the Americans were appalled that they were not only not offended but defending the right to be called 'Oriental'. Meanwhile, this troper's (British) Indian friends were making the Americans even more confused by pointing out that everyone was fine with this because calling someone 'Asian' is more relevant (culturally) to them than to the (British) Chinese people they were arguing with. It was a headache to sort out at the time, but with hindsight a very interesting learning curve for everyone involved. * [[SamHuddy This troper]], upon first attending a public university,

was blown away by things such as giving out condoms in school, standoff protests, and the ''vast'' amount of sex/drugs. These things were so common that this troper himself was ostracized for ''not'' taking part. Eventually, he fell in with a more open-minded crowd. ** Wouldn't that actually be a more close-minded crowd? The people you described at the start are the open-minded ones. ** No it wouldn't; the people he described at the start ostracized him because he had different values than they had. The open-minded crowd didn't mind that he had unusual values. (Of course, it could be that they shared his values and that's why they okayed him, but he doesn't say that.) * This troper recently had a very interesting conversation with his mother about the generation differences in how Americans view the "proper" stages of dating. My mother said that when she was in college, anyone who would be willing to live with their boyfriend/girlfriend before getting married would be completely ostracized for their immoral lifestyle. These days, people my age think that getting married to someone before you've been living together for at least a few years is practically like marrying a stranger. * This troper often notices the sheer lack of style and decency in today's youth. Lack of courtesy and discipline, as abuse of drugs, are also major problems. The fun fact? This troper is actually sixteen, one year younger than troper's class companions. This troper is also impressed by the dissonance between the values in Europe and Brazil, as Europeans in general are more polite and civilized than Brazilians. It might be because troper traveled to London, though. ** Style? ** Values Dissonance! This troper finds such arbitrarily defined values as "courtesy", "discipline", and "decency" to be absurdly subjective to the point of uselessness. Honestly? The fact she's not insulting your pants off or giving you the evil eye is implying respect, because she jokes around a lot, and when she genuinely does not respect someone, it's for a reason, and she's gonna show it, like it or not. ** I'm going note I see all those problems in the generations before mine; We're just less full of shit about it. Most of my parent's generation are equally as rude and undisciplined. Drug abuse? [[SarcasmMode I guess you're right there, the hippies that were part the prior generation would never abuse drugs]]. Style? Really? Even putting aside how subjective that is I'm going to say I find that their [[TheUnfunny humor]] and most of their music is terrible. * This troper's house had a bedbug infestation. This created some values dissonance between the people living here, as some came from places where bedbugs aren't a big deal at all and figured that poisoning the damn things would be too much hassle. Meanwhile the rest of us were totally freaking out at every single dark spot we found... * I've never really understood why people look upon nudity as disgusting and are opposed to public nudity. I also feel like I hold more trust in the government than a lot of people. ** Seconded by This Troper, who simply finds clothing uncomfortable (unless the alternative is more uncomfortable) and tries to wear as

little clothing as possible while still retaining his 'modesty', which he barely cares for anyway. * This trope became an issue in this troper's previous relationship. She viewed love more casually than I did, which isn't saying much since after emotional attatchment (read: They trigger my dere-dere side) I prioritised her above everything else including survival and comfort. I saw her protection and her pursuit of happiness as my duty to facilitate and was very much the wannabe battle buttler. I suppose spending the majority of your life as a recluse does little for your emotional temperence beyond making you for the most part emotionless bar those few subjects that open the emotional floodgates. * This troperette doesn't shave her legs and often wears shorts. Men and women both have given me hell over this fact. I give women more of a pass on their hatefulness than I do most men. If a shaven person (usually a woman) goes on about the need to shave/how disgusting not to is/etc, at least, they're following what they preach. When an unshaven man in shorts go on about it, he's nothing but a bloody hypocrite. Either way, I don't give a flying frig if someone shaves or not and wish people of all genders would just, y'know, not look at my legs if it offends them so badly. ** This troper likewise doesn't shave her legs and wears shorts, yet has never gotten any flak over it, which leads to the even stranger situation where people go on about how women ''must'' shave their legs or they're disgusting and unhygienic while not actually being able to tell the difference between a woman who shaves and a woman who doesn't. ** This male troper prefers women who don't shave, which unfortunately seems to be a rarity. * I live in Virginia and worked for a locally owned company. Recently we were bought out by a company from Pennsylvania and they all came down for 2 weeks for the transition. After it was over my coworkers and I were shocked by how much those people swore. It's not like Virginians don't swear but we generally don't do it around strangers, coworkers or people we've just met (though I do it online all the time because, hey, it's the internet). But with those Pennsylvanians it was like "Nice to meet you. We're here to get you oriented. FUCK A MAILBOX. SHIT DAMN. ASS." It's like an entire company suffering from Tourette's. ** I fucking love Pennsylvania /bornineriehugesteelersfan * This troper spent a few hours in Brindisi, in southern Italy. She had just come from Rome, where it seemed like as long as you weren't in a church you had to be more or less naked before anybody would consider you underdressed. She was wearing a tank top and kayaking shorts and during the walk from the bus stop to the port practically went deaf from all the honking and catcalls. * This troper considers the negative aspects of life to be necessarysomething to fight, a foil for the positive things, and a test of character- and feels that a utopia would be bad. She often comes to blows about this "negative" atitude with her sister. ** I'm glad [[{{Tropers.bergil}} I'm]] not the only one who thinks like this. Sometimes I think that I'm the only one who still uses the word strength. To give a related TroperTale, one time I mentioned in a

political science discussion group that I thought not voting was weak. I had to explain what I meant, they thought I meant that it weakend democracy or society or something. * This is true in regards to me and my own ''dad''. My dad is very conservative, whereas I am a proud liberal/progressive. To him, owning a gun is fine, but to me, it's crazy. Also, he's pro-life, I'm prochoice, he thinks the draft would be a good idea, I think the draft should be unconstitutional. He likes [[FoxNews fox news]], I think they're the spawn of Satan. He agrees with the Arizona immigration law SB-1070, I think it's not only blatantly racist, but fascist as well. So yeah, you can see some tensions. * {{Livejournal}} communities. It certainly varies from com to com what is considered "acceptable". One moment, I'll be browsing a community where people are throwing around [[DudeNotFunny completely uncalled for and insensitive "jokes"]], and the next I'll browsing one where you practically [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad have to walk on eggshells to avoid offending people]]. Since I watch a lot of communities, I'll often see [[MoodWhiplash posts from both extremes right next to each other]]. * This Troper gets this sometimes. She goes to a boarding school in Chicago, USA- but 25% of our students are Chinese, and another 10% from assorted other countries. Like any large urban area in America, there's a serious case of "Everyone is from somewhere else." She was surprised when a Chinese friend of hers commented on how many different ethnicities there were walking along the street, and the way so many of us have seriously screwed up ethnicities ourselves (such as my German, Dutch-Irish/Native American heritage. I count several Nazis, Vikings, Cheyenne warriors, and Irish potato farmers/railroad workers among my ancestors). * This Troper gets this a lot due to his pragmaticism. I will punch regardless of gender, I will eat someone else to avoid starving, I will bring a knife to a fist-fight, I will cheat, I will steal, and I will kill for personal gain. I don't believe in any sort of honor or respect; I only look at consequences. I don't murder people not because it "would be wrong", I don't murder people becuase if I do the authorities will be trying to imprision and/or kill me. ** [[Tropers/AlsoSprachOdin I]] don't have a problem with pragmaticism, but what about contractualism? If we all murdered each other for profit and giggles, society couldn't hold together. What's your perspective on this? And what about feelings - those pesky, irrational little things - would there not be a great risk of lifelong guilt and paranoia ("was that a siren!?"), or are you a supremely confident sociopath (no offence meant)? * Weather. Just...weather. I've had to stop mentioning numbers when I complain about the weather around internet forums, because people will just get their panties in a bunch and give me shit because my area's temperature - 20 degrees Celsius so happens to be their temperature in the middle of summer or whatever. ** This troper (an Australian living in Melbourne, known for its weather extremes) has been known to express his surprise at British people who seem to think that 25 or even 20 degrees Celcius is very hot, which to this troper is only warm... 35, on the other hand, now

THAT is very hot for this troper... Agreed that weather's an easy one to get Values Dissonance over, in other words. ** This (British) troper disagrees. For me, 20C is uncomfortable to be out in, whereas my mother would probably still be wearing multiple layers. It's not ''values'' dissonance, it's an actual difference in our metabolisms. * This troper once believed that two guys kissing each other meant they were both straight, as it was mostly done for RuleOfFunny. But now I consider it largely unthinkable. * This troper from the United States of America has always had trouble understanding how anyone from any number of other countries could stand having their government outlaw firearms and other weapons. It's not even just a matter of hunting rights or self-defense against criminals to this troper, it's also a matter of the possible need to take up arms against a corrupt government. Of course, that's a big debate even in America; some people think that patriotism means supporting the government no matter what it does. This troper considers himself patriotic, but keeps in mind that the nation was founded by people who were, essentially, traitors. ** How would regular weapons work against tanks and such? A corrupt government would have access to those (and much worse) unlike the people rebelling against them. *** You've just made a good argument for civilian ownership of antitank missiles. ** This (fellow American) troper has to agree with the original troper. For the most part, I agree with the sentiment that gun control isn't about guns, it's about control. It could be that we Americans have a different stance on guns because they're such a big part of our history. Remember, Americans in general tend to be far more distrustful of our government than maybe other countries. Maybe that's part of the problem? * Back when i was little me and every single kid i knew sometimes got (mild) physical punishment if we did something bad. As long as we knew we were not supposed to do it i don't remember ever feeling it to be unfair or affecting anyone for much more than a couple of days. Also if you got into a physical fight in school you just had to make up in front of the teacher and if there was no serious injury that was it. Nowadays apparently it's the #1 cause of becoming a serial killer / violent criminal / drug adict / hating everyone - you name it. Phew good thing we didn't know yet we were supposed to turn out that way ! ** Same [[@/{{Amethystasheryn}} here.]] Not about the physical fights, mind, because I've always avoided fights whenever possible. But my parents spanked me and my siblings when we were young, and if we'd done something really bad, they used a big wooden spatula to drive the point home. I don't understand people complaining how laying a single hand on your kid is automatically horrible. There's a difference between child abuse and legit punishment for doing bad stuff, and neither my body nor my ideals or morals came to lasting harm. So, yeah ... agree. * My father once gave a medical presentation in Japan. He's an Argentinian who immigrated to the United States, and he enjoys light humor in his department. When giving the presentation, however, not a

single person in the audience smiled or laughed; my father was crushed. Later that day, he talked to some of the Japanese physicians, and it turned out that they loved his talk; they just didn't want to be impolite by not taking it seriously. That trip was full of values dissonance, really. * Most people think the idea of paying as much as $50 for a 30-minute game sounds silly. Paying as much as $1,000 for such a game barrels straight from silly to a crime worse than genocide. Other people, on the other hand, see no problem with this. [[spoiler:I'm talking about {{shmup}}s.]] * My friend's Chinese mother went ballistic one day when she found out my friend had borrowed a pair of another friend's shoes. She then started shouting at her, saying, "Chinese people don't do that! It's dirty!" and so on. This was all helped by the fact that my friend does not even see herself as (culturally) Chinese, as she was born and raised in Northern Ireland. However as her parents are very Chinese, I think this sort of conflict happens in her family a lot. * This Troper's [[CoolOldGuy elderly art teacher]] often uses sexist language in class. (things like "mankind" instead of "humanity" and "man-made" for "artificial".) He also has nineteen posters depicting artists from the past. Of them, only [[BeyondTheImpossible ONE is a woman.]] ** On the other hand, most people treat "mankind" and "humanity" as absolute synonyms with no difference in connotation, and never make the connection to gender at all. Nor would many people find it odd to see a skewed gender ratio in posters of historical artists, since for most of history the gender ratio among famous artists was extremely skewed. So while many would read your story and perceive the teacher as sexist, many others would read your story and see a rabid feminist ripping on their poor old teacher. ValuesDissonance indeed. *** Strongly agree with this. When I read "mankind and man-made are so sexist!" my immediate reaction was "...[[FlatWhat What]]." The [[StrawFeminist straw feminism]] seems to be very strong in this one. **** I'm sorry, but I'm a male and I agree fully that saying "mankind" or "man-made" instead of "humankind" or "artificial" ''is'' implicitly sexist. What's so difficult about being inclusive? Of course, the fact that most of artists from the past on those posters mentioned were male probably reflects more on the fact that, for much of history, just about everything was male dominated. And, of course, your art teacher (who is "elderly" as you put it) is probably just speaking the way he grew up speaking: that excuses him, but it doesn't excuse younger people who continue to act as if half of humanity doesn't exist. ***** I'm sorry, but how exactly does saying "mankind" imply that I think half of humanity doesn't exist? Look up "man" in a dictionary: you'll find that "male human" isn't its sole definition, and it is clearly not the definition implied in words like "mankind" and "manmade." And inb4 "but the fact that you're using 'man' to refer to all people is sexist!", maybe that was the original intent of the word, but you know what? The word "husband" originally meant "master of the house," but you don't see anyone foaming at the mouth over how horrendously sexist this is, because ''the word isn't used in this

sense anymore.'' * This college troper was in a debate class once when a classmate said that anyone who drew/performed in/accepted blackface was a terrible person. I looked up and told her simply that things were different back then (as she specifically mentioned the time period) and that no one saw it as a big deal. She proceeded to get angry and saw it is a big deal, I told her that back then it wasn't really, it was everywhere...She then said that the Disney Company, Warner Brothers, etc were terrible racist companies for their older cartoons (such as the WWII cartoons and {{Fantasia}}). Yet again, I said times were different and that alone didn't make the whole companies racist-everyone was doing that. (I know "Everyone's doing it" is a terrible excuse, but...) This went on for a few minutes until she [[RageQuit threw her things in her bag and stormed out of class.]] ** Actually, I agree with the girl. ** This troper agrees with the troper, because this is the whole [[ValuesDissonance trope.]] Back then, it wasn't considered racist. * I believe in the legalisation of narcotics. I rarely even take overthe-counter pain reliever for headaches, and I will never take something significantly mind-altering unless told I need to by a physician. My reasons for wanting legalisation range from not seeing how a person taking something in the privacy of his or her own home, where only the taker and the taker's property risk harm, is a danger to society at large, the overpopulation of prisons by non-violent offenders, some addicts afraid to get help due to fear of legal charges or a person dying of an overdose may refuse to call for medical help due to the same fears, the fact prohibition creates people like Al Capone, the fact weapons sometimes get mixed in, the fact people die of overdoses due to shoddily made batches, and the fact prohibition simply does not work as intended and causes more addicts and crime than regulation would. I also come very a very conservatively Christian family which lives in a town full of people just like them. Needless to say, it's not a good idea to talk to anyone, including my mother (who knows how I feel and makes her disapproval clear), about some of my more liberal political views. * This troper, being mostly an inhabitant of the internet, finds it frustrating how much more open-minded he is than many people within his own family and town. The town I live in is one of those places where everyone is white, straight, "normal", and either religious or atheist in a religious family. I am white, bi, I crossdress and am quite open about it and am Agnostic. Agnosticism doesn't seem to be a concept here except for me. ** In a related example, my girlfriend lives in a different country (we're currently long distance but planning on seeing eachother soon) and we both get constantly surprised by the differences in culture. For example, she owns and has fired several guns, whereas I live in the UK, where a lot of people go their entire lives without ever even ''seeing'' a firearm. * This Chinese troper, along with many of his compatriots believe that spay/neuter of pets is inhumane and advocating for that is betraying animal welfare. * This Troper went from a liberal charter school in the middle of the

city to a suburban Catholic private high school, and sees a HUGE amount of this. Most of the differences come down to almost everyone at my old school being a Democrat, and everyone at my new school being a Republican. (There are other differences, too... Old school was INSANELY strict about violence, and pushing someone could get you suspended. When I first started out, I got beaten up on a lot because I wasn't used to fighting back...) ** On a related note, This (Australian) Troper is constantly confused by America's very categorised politics (ie, they are either 'Liberal' or 'Conservative'). * This troper has caused me to despise the Ancient Romans and the Middle Ages, regarding the Romans as a race with a LackOfEmpathy and a sadistic sense of pleasure when initiating punishments, while the other as a CorruptChurch run civilization of insanely prejudiced people. It made me [[HumansAreBastard hate most of mankind.]] * My family look down on me for loving Pokemon. Not my age, but Pokemon itself. BUT! My brother gets to play ''GrandTheftAuto'' and the like without a word! Pokemon: cute animals and friendships! GTA: BLOOD HOOKERS MORE BLOOD THE MAFIA EVEN MORE BLOOD! *headdesk* I cannot wait to move out of here, seriously. * This troper, after browsing through the TooSoon page, thought that maybe the media was a bit too sensitive to the events. I mean censoring things that involve the WTC that comes out for a while is kinda fair, going back several years and censoring things that involve it is stretching it but... ok. Censoring damn near everything that even vaguely had anything to do with that day is a tad silly. "Oh look that building exploded, just like 9/11, we should probably censor it, lest people use their BatDeduction to discover that a show from over 15 years ago depicting an exploding building is suppose to be an analog to a terrorist attack that just happened." * This troper is kind of an ideological hedonist, who thinks that anything that individual desire is the central point of existence. So he can understand and enjoy some stuff that others think are "sick and twisted," like IncestSubtext, ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney (as something correct), and HeroicSociopath (again, as someone to look up to). But he gets revolted by things like religion, environmentalism, and "trying to make the world a better place." * This troper has a few, some that are apparently so "out there" that i come off as some kind of alien. One of the biggest ones in my family is hunting. For one, i'd like to say that i support gun ownership and i've been instructed in the use of Firearms, to the point where i have really good aim and can take apart most guns safely. thing is, i hate guns. not because they're dangerous, its more because i feel they're loud and ugly. So when my dad gave me a rifle to hunt a deer i was already a bit on edge about it. when we found a deer to kill i lined up the sights and told my dad i wasn't going to do it, not because i had a moral objection to killing it, but because it just didn't seem fair. i have a high powered rifle, the deer has...antlers. i eventually compromised to hunt with a simple bow (I told my dad i wasn't going to hunt anything unless it was with a knife!) and after i bagged a doe i decided i wasn't going to hunt ever again. i didn't get any pleasure from killing it even though it was a challenge and i

didn't need to kill it to eat. just one of the many "oddities" that's distanced myself with my family. * This troper managed to find a book on sociology that was written in [[TheEighties the 1980's]]. Who knew things were so different back then? In those days, the voiceovers for advertisements were AlwaysMale, women still earned less than men (a woman with ''1-3 years'' of college[[hottip:*: $15,600]] would still earn less than a man who never finished high school[[hottip:*: $17,500]]!), [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and]] the word "misandry" wasn't even coined yet, at least according to the book: --> "...There is no such word [for "hatred of males"]." --> "...although English includes words for hatred of females ([[HeManWomanHater misogyny]]) and the hatred of all people (misanthropy), there is no such word for the hatred of males." ---Back in my day, we went back to ValuesDissonance when we were 8 without any escort or help! We just clicked on the link and went! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

VanityPlate * With regards to a retooled [=DiC=] vanity plate minimizing its spookiness...not likely. This troper only ever saw this logo after 1990, and was still scared to death of it. And forget the S from Hell and the V of Doom, all this troper needed as a child to send him running in to bedtime was the Vin Di Bona Productions logo at the end of AFV. And, of course, things got worse when it started popping up in nightmares. Yeah...this one was quite the logophobe as a child. Honorable mentions go to the PBS "faces" logo and the original version of the NBC peacock--other tropers may have had the boogeyman or what have you in their closet, I had the original NBC peacock in mine. ** Suddenly, {{Vulpy}} feels not so alone. They all scared him as a child. No word yet on whether or not the trauma accounts for his sudden lapse into a ThirdPersonPerson. * NightmareFuel is the 1989 PBS ident (rotating glass layers) for me. I mean it looks cool and all, but the SoundTrackDissonance really gets me. * In amateur filmmaking, everybody has a vanity plate. My video teacher had one involving a factory of cats. This troper thought that having a long, overelaborate vanity plate was a waste of an audience's time; when it came time for me to make one for a student film festival, I simply had a CG image of a multicolored hairball appear for a few seconds. ** [[{{Azzizzi}} This troper]] agrees with you, especially when there are several of them and they're hard to skip over when watching the movie on DVD. * This feline at heart troper doesn't really watch TV much, but her cat appears in one, even though it only appears in her short films;

Her vanity place is of Diamond beeping the horn in the car. It's rather cute. * This troper is delighted that these relics are being unearthed on youtube and elsewhere. And that's because she's not disturbed by the logos anymore (because, you know, she's has common sense now), but still gets associative little shivers from watching them. Oddly, looking at these is a helluva lot of fun. However, looking at them for over and hour can be psychologically risky, to a point. Those creepy things (music, too) will flash in your brain when your the least prepared, or the moment the lights go off. Brr. ** This (other) troper agrees with the above, but hey, [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife we were warned...]] * This troper finds it quite fascinating that because he ''did not'' watch ''any'' TV as a child, he can barely imagine these ever being scary. * Troper's Note: To the person who decided to take two already creepy plates (VID Mask and Viacom V of Doom) and make it into a crossoverscreamer... thanks for contributing to my insomnia for the next MONTH. ** Seconded. Single most terrifying thing I've ever [[SchmuckBait clicked on in a Nightmare Fuel page, ignoring the warnings...]] * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]] has never been afraid of any logos as a kid...except for the Aniplex logo; as seen at the end of FullmetalAlchemist. The dark nature of the logo and the rather unsettling digitized voice saying the company name was a bit creepy to me, although I admit that later in the series, once it started getting further into the territories of HighOctaneNightmareFuel, it really took an edge off that logo for me. * I just realized what makes some logos so scary. Most of them contain the following tropes: ** An "eyeball". The logo looks like it's staring directly at you. (PBS, Screen Gems). ** A dark background, either black or a muted, dark color. (WGBH, [=DiC=], Screen Gems, VID) ** Rough animation. ([[RuleOfThree Screen Gems]] (both the "S From Hell" and the "Dancing Sticks" logos), VID, NET/PBS, WGBH) ** The company's name in all-caps. (too many to list) ** A rising crescendo or a ScareChord for background music. ** The logo appears to be zooming in. ** As little text as possible. Too much text looks human and reassuring. Same thing if there's too much going on. ** Now, imagine what would happen if a particularly evil production company decided to combine every last one of these tropes into one logo, and ramp them all UpToEleven? * Why is the V of Doom (Viacom) scary? It's symbolic (at least for YouTube users). There's a giant V zooming in looking like it's going to kill you...like how Viacom would pull your videos off YouTube and maybe delete your account. * This troper, as a small child, was positively terrified of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJA2qZL6jhQ&feature=player_detailpage the sound that accompanies the Dolby Digital logo at the start of movies ]]. With the lights dimmed and that sound coming from all directions, it's a wonder I wasn't scarred for life. I watched a lot

of Pixar movies back then, so I guess the cute hopping lamp guy softened the blow enough for me to escape with my sanity. * The Reeves Entertainment [[WhiteMaskOfDoom drama masks]] shown at the end of the Nickelodeon shows ''What Would You Do'' and ''Wild and Crazy Kids'' seriously freaked me out. Unlike most people, the 1971-84 PBS logo and the 1980's CTW logo didn't scare me at all. * [[{{Tropers/Fungal88}} This tropette]] used to be scared shitless of the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7jtf9wyI0U 1984 PBS logo]]. Whenever she was watching ShiningTimeStation at her babysitter's residence, she would run into another room to "protect" herself from that logo when it came on as soon as the closing credits for that program were over. She even had nightmares about it! * The PBS Kids "Cartoon P-Pals" logo from 1993-1999 used to haunt [[{{Tropers/CJO123}} my]] dreams until I was about 8 or 9 years old. Much of the blame lays on the fact that the logo starts right the fuck out of nowhere, the way the P-Pals were animated (I used to think that yellow earring on the blue P-head with the red hat was his other eye) and especially the dreaded music, a loud 90s style techno beat with bass and drums. But what really set me off was how the P-Heads shouted "THIS IS P-B-SSSSSSS!!!!" over the music. Sometimes when I couldn't sleep, I feared that the logo would come out of the TV and torture me to no end. Making it worse was the fact that at the end of many PBS Kids shows from this era, it came right after the "Merging CPB Circles" logo, another one that gave me nightmares, mainly because of the way the announcer said, "Funding for this program was made possible by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by the annual financial support of Viewers Like You", and the fact that the "Viewers Like You" text was written in a rather scary font (sometimes said text would zoom in to the middle of the screen, making it even scarier to someone only about 4 or 5 years old). ---''Are you still here? The troper tales are over. Go back to VanityPlate.'' ---<<|TroperTales|>>

VaporWear * This troper's girlfriend can occasionally be convinced to go without a bra, particularly in this one black silky, clingy shirt she owns. She is fairly well endowed. It's awesome. * ThisTroper had a quite attractive girlfriend who never wore undergarments of any kind, [[InnocentFanserviceGirl simply because she felt no need to.]] This made her little summery tank tops and littler warm-weather skirts ''very interesting''. She didn't seem to mind one way or another. * One of this troper's friends often didn't wear a bra. Normally this wasn't very noticeable as she tended to wear rather modest clothing, but on the occasion she wore something more skin-tight or revealing, it was far more obvious, especially since she was also rather well-

endowed. * This troper had a (hippie/tomboy/drama school - that has to be some sort of trifecta) dorm resident when he was an RA, who would occasionally go VaporWear. On one occasion, she burst into the lounge, thoroughly drenched while wearing a (thick) white vest - she had been running through the sprinklers on campus. Now, she and this troper are comfortable discussing topics that would be TMI with anyone else (for me, at least). So, she is shivering slightly, and is CLEARLY cold (IfYouKnowWhatIMean). After telling her that she should go and change (I have a tendency to be a PapaWolf at times) repeatedly, I finally say, loud enough for at least six people to hear, "I can TELL you are cold. Now, go change". At which point she crosses her arms over herself, half-smiles and leaves. Cue a DidIJustSayThatOutLoud moment. * Don't bend over when wearing a mini skirt (especially a loose one) commando, as ThisTroper once observed... ** And I missed the opportunity to get a pictures. Yes, I'm a perv sometimes. ** Are you mad, boy? Please, ladies, DO bend over when wearing a miniskirt commando. Or bend forward when you're wearing a low-cut top and no bra. ** [[AllMenArePerverts Hell, bend over no matter what you're wearing!]] *** Fools! Consider Murphy's Law! *** [[TemptingFate What could possibly go wrong?]] Alternatively, kneel down to pick something up (Trust me guys, if her top is fairly low cut, it's awesome.) ** *[[AllMenArePerverts face]][[StopBeingStereotypical palm]]* Truly, you are all [[{{GIFT}} gifted]] when it comes to social interaction. ** This same troper once again witnessed a commando minidress wardrobe malfunction at the local gas station. Please wear bike shorts or something under one. * ThisTroper does it all the time; she doesn't even own any bras (she'll occasionally break out a thong if she's wearing a miniskirt or something). Being modestly endowed and partial to long skirts helps with this. * ThisTroper was once in Gym and I overheard a girl who was a grade over me and was just hugged tremendously by a friend, say "Not so hard, I'm not wearing a bra." Now you'd think that getting hugged in Gym class wearing no bra would be the ultimate combination, but she wasn't developed in any way. However! A girl in my grade who was x20 more developed than her (if I made a list of who would have the largest chests in my grade, she and another girl would tie for the top of the list.) said "I wish I didn't have to wear a bra." * This troper knew a chick who was as well endowed as Harvard University who had the bright idea of sliding head-first on a slip-nslide in a very thin yellow t-shirt, and all of this at a public school function. Needless to say the minute she got up it was very obvious the trope was in effect as her shirt had practically become part of her body and her boobs were a half-a-foot lower than normal. The best part? She purposely did this because she didn't want to get her bra wet. * In one of this troper's school festival, a friend of this troper was

using yukata. The size of yukata is too big, always revealing her shoulder and her cleavage. When this troper was [[MaleGaze peeping]] a bit, this troper made a conclusion that she wasn't wearing a bra! * This (male) troper owns a few pairs of jeans that are worn enough to sort of fit this trope if he chooses to go commando. They're still opaque, but leave very little to the imagination under certain 'conditions'. ** ...ew... * This troper was eating lunch one day, when this one girl bent over to get change from the vending machine and gave everyone a clear view of her blue panties. She was wearing shorts, but they were so transparent that it's amazing she wasn't escorted out. * This troper was wearing a sleeveless dress while she was on vacation, and changed out of her dress and into a shirt while she was riding in a car. She didn't stay without a bra for very long, because she put on her bra in a restaurant's bathroom. Hey, going without a bra is uncomfortable for her... * This troper's friend pointed out to her that it's far more comfortable not wear a bra and she proceeded to not wear one during the duration of the sleepover. This troper tried it, but she found it was more uncomfortable than actually wearing one. [[TakeAThirdOption So she wore her bra over her shirt.]] * My sister knows all to well to not do this. The day you do, you will get pantsed at school, let out a fart, and have everyone laugh at you for the rest of your life. * This troper's sister has {{A-CupAngst}} and she thinks wearing a bra 24/7 throughout her puberty is what made her a {{Pettanko}}. So she rarely wears one now. She actually complains on how running without a bra ''doesn't'' hurt her. * Sadly, not all tales of Vapor Wear are pleasant. When I was younger I went on a early morning walk with my Mum, when on the way back we saw a old lady, who must of been in her seventies, extremely obese as well, wearing a entirely see-through dress without any underwear. The image scars my mind to this day. Now excuse me while I get the BrainBleach.... ** [[http://www.eyebleach.com/ Here]], this'll help too. There's also a male-alternative you can access at the top of the page if this isn't your thing too. * A number of years ago, ThisTroper was riding the bus when a lady in a very revealing black and white minidress attempted to disembark. Rather than climbing slowly down the steps, she did so in a single hop. This caused the back of her dress to fly up, revealing that she did not appear to be wearing anything underneath. * This troper likes going without a bra, at least in the privacy of her own home. She sometimes skips knickers, too, mainly during the hottest time of summer. * A while ago, I knew a friend of mine never wore a bra (the tank tops she wore made it abundantly clear). Then one day, she and a friend of hers started roughhousing, and the other friend accidentally pulled down her pants. Needless to say, I learned about [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean something else she didn't wear]] that day. * One of this Troper's stories features a host of several sisters,

some of which dress more sensibly and some of which wear more revealing outfits. Because EvilIsSexy, the TokenEvilTeammate wears a PimpedOutDress with an ImpossiblyLowNeckline and a skirt that opens up to her waist in several places- and nothing underneath! The trope is intentionally invoked because it took most people not in the know a long time to figure out that she's an InnocentFanserviceGirl who never saw any reason to wear underwear. * I do not wear bras, because since several years ago it's impossible to buy a bra without foam padding here. Return to Main/VaporWear. ...No, you can leave them off. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

VendorTrash * There's a store near this troper's house that is about as close as RealLife comes to WeBuyAnything--it's a convenient place to hock old toys, video games, [=CDs=], [=DVDs=], books, stuffed animals--you get the picture. Frequently, this troper will bring brand-new books she's just finished there in order to get money for them. * Having fiddled around with {{Game Maker}}s before, this troper has made a couple amateur [=RPGs=] and the like, and she always manages to include some kind of vendor trash. One game, which began in the "real" world, featured pocket change--pennies, quarters, and dollar bills-that could be exchanged for an equivalent amount of Universal Currency once the game entered the fantasy world--usually by selling them, but the player would have eventually gained an item that did this automatically. The same game also had a Pirate-themed world where enemies [[RandomlyDrops Randomly Dropped]] Gold Dubloons, with a similar function. A different game featured Wonder Cheese--another [[RandomlyDrops Random Drop]] that was useful exactly ''once,'' in order to find a secret {{Mon}}, and then never again. It sold decently, however. ** And now wondercheese has its very own Squicky subtext! Just think about the term for a moment. * This troper used to have a job selling what was practically vendor trash; wooden flowers and knock-off pashmina scarves. Surprisingly profitable, but not exactly legal and not profitable ENOUGH to justify the winter season. * A strange and oddly prevalent real life example involves bottles and cans. In some U.S. states, all carbonated beverage containers, or all plastic/glass/aluminum containers, have a bottle deposit. Usually, when you buy them, you're charged an extra five or ten cents more than the price. If you bring it back to a store that sells that beverage, you get the deposit back. If you never bought it in the first place, this functions a lot like VendorTrash, with the stores buying it from you. The whole purpose of this is to encourage recycling. This Troper is from one of these states and has witnessed numerous conflicts over discarded pop bottles. ** This is also why Mexicans are very careful with not breaking and

picking up every single bottle of beer after a party -- bulk beer is usually purchased in cases, in these situations they charge you a bottle deposit which is refunded after you return the bottles, which means every lost or broken bottle equals lost money. *** As is the case in Sweden. All empty cans and bottles are usually considered the property of the host, meaning that the morning after a good party, you can find enough money for pizza in the garbage. *** Ditto for Finland - in fact, visiting the site of a big music festival the morning after the event with a big trash bag at hand is a quick way to earn an extra 10 if you're lucky. ---Hey! I'll pay you 5000 gold for that VendorTrash, buddy! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

VerbalBackspace Tell us all about some of the times you hit Gerbil Matspace here. I mean Verbal Backspace! ---* Happens in [[Tropers/KatanaCat This Troper's]] house all the time. If you [[FairlyOddParents man-egg]]... erm, manage to be around someone in my family for half an hour without them suddenly hitting Verbal Backspace, you're lucky. * Happens a lot to [[@/SoWeAteThem me]], like near the end of junior year, when I spent a full ten seconds blabbering incoherently during finals before finally saying "recorded sound" in French, but this one is particularly notable in that it sprung from a life-threatening {{mondegreen}}: -->Me: (recites an entry from [[TroperTales/FetishRetardant Troper Tales/Fetish Retardant]]) (to Friend, a female) Sorry, it's from a board I frequent. -->Friend: What kind of boards do you go to? -->Me: ... -->Friend: What kind of boards do you go to? -->Me: ...Various comics and the odd film. -->Friend: ... -->Me: Oh, come on. I'm a man, this should have been expected. -->Friend: ...I said boards. -->Me: Oh. '''You did not hear that last statement.''' ** I'm sorry, but this troper is incredibly slow. What did you think she say? * This troper has become infamous for this. My friends never stop laughing at me for sentences that are correct except for one word that completely doesn't belong, that I then go back and correct. They generally resemble this. "Let's go get some puppies... And by puppies I mean lunch." ---Go black- back to HerbalCatspace- I mean VerbalHatspace- I mean

VerbalBackspace. ----

VerbalTic We tropers do have our [[TroperTales tales to tell]], [[VerbalTic yeeesssss...]] ---'''Examples:''' * [[Tropers/ZoeZoeWriter This tropette]], being a total [[MotorMouth Motor Mouth]] has a tendancy to repeat my sentance starter/ender 3-5 times and stutter. She also "kyaa"s when fangirlish. When she's upset, she says "ngr." Also, she has [[HollywoodTourettes tourette's-level]] use of "dumbass" "fuck" and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking "baka."]] Also, she uses "hn" instead of "hm." And she uses Japanese honorifics almost constantly. And she says "mir" (pronounced like "myhhr") every few sentances. --> ''Exhibit A - Irritation'' ---> Person: She's such a freak, she-...! ---> Me: [[DeathGlare *looks*]] Hn? --> ''Exhibit A.B - Irritation'' ---> Person: But it doesn't work like that. ---> Me: Ngrrrrrrr! --> ''Exhibit B - Anger'' ---> Person: He killed your goldfish. ---> Me: MIR!!! Th-tha-that f-fuckin dumbass, I'm gonna fuckin' kill 'im the g-g-g-goddamn motherf-fuckin' ba-ba-baka! --> ''Exhibit C - Fangirl'' ---> Person: ...and last night on [[TrueBlood True Blood]], Eric-... ---> Me: KYAA!!! --> ''Exhibit D - Names'' ---> Me: (Parodying [[TheWonderfulWizardOfOz The Wizard of Oz]]) ...Aand there was-was-was Okaa-san a-and Jerm-chan, and Marquee-chan and E-Eri-chan and Nii-san and Lar-ark-tan and I could've sworn I saw [[SlenderManMythos Slendy-sama]]! * This troper says "ya' know?" in his sentences frequently ya' know? * This Troper's classmate starts almost every sentence by saying 'I'll tell you something' ( originally 'Co&#347; wam powiem') * This troper sometimes ends sentences with "...and shit." Alcohol increases the frequency of this tic. * My math teacher has a strange habit of placing the accent on the wrong syllabe, all the time. It's worse when he is angry. * This Troper has a friend who, when explaining something, starts off with "the gist of it is..." This Troper herself has a verbal tic in the form of odd "nya" or "nyu" sound-effects whenever she is frustrated, scared, trying to get someone's attention or when exciting. As with most tropes [[YourMileageMayVary people's opinion's]] differ on whether its sweet, plain annoying or rather confusing to hear a stoic come out with such things. * For this troper, it's an apology, whether the sentence deserved one or not. "___________, sorry.". Some find it cute,

others...[[BerserkButton not so much.]] -->[[TheSimpsons I never apologize. I'm sorry, that's just the way I am.]] * [[MrDeath This editor]] had a professor that ended nearly every sentence with "isn't it?" Given this, and the accent, the editor is convinced that he was a native French speaker, as "N'est-ce pas?", which translates to "isn't it?" is the French equivalent of "You know?" or "Got it?" * [[{{Tropers/Lioyd}} This troper]]'s high school [[CoolTeacher history]] [[SternTeacher teacher]] seemingly couldn't help but sparkle in a few "donc" (French for "thus") between his words. * This troper once had a native Columbian teacher who kept saying what sounded like "Fok" all the time. We thought it meant something at first, but she seemed to just say it at random. * This troper had a U.S. teacher who ended every third sentence or so with "...and stuff and everything." * [[{{Kerrah}} This Finnish Troper]] used to be a horrible stutterer, but instead of repeating parts of the words he was speaking, he'd add "" and "" (vowels that are commonly used to buy time for hesitancy, like the English "er" and "um") in the middle, earning himself much mocking back in elementary school. * This troper scatters the phrase "y'know" through her sentences liberally enough that her mother once yelled at her for it. (I think she was, y'know, stressed out about something else) ** This troper's wife gets onto him for doing it, and she does it often. He once had someone ask him why he said, "Yo," in the middle of sentences so often, which confused him, until the friend pointed it out right as it happened. It was only then that this troper realized that he was saying it REALLY damn fast, to the point of being unintelligible. * For me, this is common...''ish''. * And for me..."honestly" and "the thing is" shows up far to often. Thankfully, they're relatively common in conversation, but the thing is that it can get on people's nerves, and occasionally on my own, honestly. * Yeah, this troper does this a lot too. Ending sentences with "though" is another big one, though. (She also knows a couple of people who end most of their sentences with "lol" in IM conversations, and she herself, as well as several other friends, puts an emoticon -most often :P -- at the end of a message often enough for it to qualify for this trope as well.) ** More recently, this troper has noticed that this isn't limited to "Yeah" -- she quite often sticks some similar word, like "Well," or "See," or "However," occasionally "Dude," in that same position, particularly "Essentially," or "Basically," before a rephrased, condensed version of whatever she just said, and "Actually," or "Although..." if she wants to correct herself. Essentially, it's like everything I ever say is part of a continuous stream, rather than self-contained chunks. * This troper's Chinese teacher says the word "Ah," at the end of almost every sentence...although most people say it's a cultural thing.

** I do that too, but I'm not Chinese. Granted, I'm Asian (Thai) but I can't help croaking out an Ah at the end of nearly every sentence. * If [[{{Quillpaw}} this troper]] can't think of an immediate response to a remark, she will reflexively shoot off "your mom" as a retort. More recently, she has added [[{{Watchmen}} "hurm"]] and [[{{Disgaea}} "dood"]] to her vocabulary. And she's never ''played'' {{Disgaea}}. * One of this troper's friend is Spanish, but learning both French and English and sometimes says "Oui" instead of "Yes". Another one says "Seriously" whilst laughing, trying to explain a funny story, and You wierdo" when she catches someone doing something silly. This troper says "Wha-a-a?" after someone speaks to her whilst she's distracted, or drawing out people's names when she's unhappy about something. * This troper knows a girl who adds "yo" to the end of every other sentence. It gives her the overall effect of sounding a lot like [[TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy Irwin.]] * This troper tends to repeat the first bit of a sentence, especially when overconfident. For example, "What did you- what did you say about me?". * This troper's father ends all requests with "...will ya?", which he claims is a Minnesotan tic. The troper, meanwhile, [[BerserkButton is sick of it.]] ** This Minnesotan troper says that "will ya?" is simply a general Scandinavian thing, one which I don't share. "You bet," on the other hand... * [[{{LadyNorbert}} This troper]] is Pennsylvania Dutch. She lives in a part of Pennsylvania that was heavily settled by German people (Deutsch), and as a result, the English spoken by natives is frequently what's called Dutchified. Basically, Dutchified English contains phrases that are worded in the exact same order that they would be if spoken in German. It's common for people to say things like "The coffee's all" (as in, all gone), "Outen the lights," and Troper's Mother's personal favorite, "Throw me down the stairs my keys." The troper had no idea any of this was particularly unusual until she went away to college... * {{Midna}} tends to add "nya" to the end of his sentences when happy or as a [[JapaneseHonorifics pseudo-honorific]] for fictional girls he finds to be cute (for example, [[AzumangaDaioh Osaka]]-nya and [[TheLegendOfZelda Midna]]-nya), nya. He also has a propensity for adding "I think" or "maybe" onto the ends of his sentences, maybe. * This troper's family is full of verbal tics. We always make fun of my father because he seriously uses the word "seriously" in just about every sentence. As for me, my students have a field day with my tics, such as how I use "though", "however", and "I'm not going to lie" all the time. Their favorite though is "hm?" I'll catch them mocking me when I do it. * This troper's mother says "you know" CONSTANTLY, about every three or four words, especially when she's going on one of her ten- or fifteen-minute rambles about nothing in particular. * This troper has somehow acquired the habit of saying "tic-tic-tic" when pausing for thought in the middle of a sentence. Why he has bothered to do so, based on a memory of a comic book character that he has neither read nor heard of for over twenty years (Bug, from the

Micronauts) is utterly beyond him. His fiancee has asked him to cut it out. * [[DarkInsanity13 This troper]] has quite a few (from the Canadian "eh" to the typical-teenage-girl "like" to various phrases), and only really notices them when she's explaining something or telling a story through type. It's a habit she needs to fix if she wants to get anywhere in writing. ** She's also recently noticed that she tends to end her random Japanese sentences with 'zo' if it makes sense. *** This mid-western troper also has quite a few, I say "quite" and "like" a lot. I also end my sentences with "-ish" and the Canadian "eh", and when thinking I say "et" as in "and" in French, then again I also have the habit of talking to myself (and random people) in French and German. When speaking French I almost always add "vraiment" (really) before an adjective. * This troper is Canadian. She also says "eh". A lot. Anyone else? ** This troper, too. It's fun to say, eh? ** I know, ''eh''!? ** I use it as a modifier for my sentences. It makes them into a question if I intended it to be but didn't phrase it right. ** Funnily enough, English speakers in South Africa do something similar - just replace "eh?" with "hey?". ** This Texan troper has Tourette's. One of my vocal tics is just saying "eh" or something similar. * This troper had to force himself to not say "like" and "um" when speaking because it annoyed everyone he talked to. * KrazehPenguin's friends once started counted how many times he said "um" and "like." ** This troper's German teacher said "Ssh!!" more than twice a minute. Even when it was silent. * This troper freuently uses "Hmmm..." when pausing to think for a minute (which can often lead to Cloudcuckerlander-type thoughts....), and is trying to train himself to use "Oro" ala Rurouni Kenshin. ** This troper's been doing that for years. * This troper's driving instructor tends to drop 'know what I mean?' into sentences frequently. * The teacher that ran the advanced math class in [[{{Nomic}} this troper's]] highschool had the tendacy to end sentences by saying "eh" a few times while making a gesture with his hand. This became a frequent subject of parody by this troper and his classmates, especially by one guy who was close friends with the teacher's daughter (who was on the same class) and knew it would annoy her. * This troper apparently has a habit of ending a lot of sentences with 'okay'. I say apparently because I was completely unaware of it until my family started telling me to stop doing it. ** I seem to have recently acquired another tic in the form of starting sentences with 'trust me'. * "It's all...like...shiny-shiny like and such." That ''adjective''''adjective'' "like and such" seems to show up with unfortunate frequency, and always ends in odd looks at a minimum. Other generic qualifiers frequently used go along the lines of "sorta," "kinda," "maybe," and "definitely possible." One gets the feeling that

decisiveness may not be a strong suit of this troper. * This troper has a probably grating habit of punctuating long, rambling tirades with "''Anyway''," or "The ''point'' is," after which she proceeds to completely bypass the point and get back to ranting. * This troper has a habit of beginning far too many sentences with "Now..." * This troper ends a lot of her sentences with "ya". No, her name is not [[FinalFantasyX Wakka.]] * [[{{Magpie}} This troper]] ends nearly each and every sentence with the word 'Yeah?', apparently the equivalent of "You got it?" or "You're listening, right? Evidently it really gets on people's nerves, though her attempts to cut down on it are... rather futile. ** This troper uses 'yeah?' a lot too! She sometimes alternates it with 'ne?', which is basically the Japanese version, yeah? * [[PandaKnight This Troper]] has a friend who ends ''every'' set of things he lists with "... and such." This occasionally spreads to single items as well. ** [[MrGuy This troper]] does it as well. It's kind of fun, and a bit of a habit, and such. * When RadioactiveZombie was little, he used to stammer with Porky Pig's accent, and had D'oh at the end of everything. Now, it's calling his skinny-ass brother "fat" and saying "RIGHT, SUSAN?" with a Filipino accent. * Qualifying adverbs. "Really," "very," "quite," "hideously," "terminally," "phenomenally"... * This troper once met someone ended every sentence with "mmmkay" just like Mr. Mackey in ''SouthPark''. And he really didn't seem the type to be imitating the show. * This troper has the odd habit of ending his sentences with "ne?", something he picked up from watching way too much subtitled anime. Aside from that, he also starts almost all of his requests with "Just asking", "Just a suggestion". And adding "Kyaa!" and "Nyappy!" to the ends of his sentences when excited. And ending everything he's confirming with an "aye" ("That's what I said, aye", "It's right there, aye"). Yes, he still gets weird looks about all of these. Oh, yeah-- and he says "y'know". A LOT. As in, it took him ... pretty much his entire life to realize he DID IT-- he only noticed it once he had points docked for it during a debate at a speech-debate meet. As in, "over 30 times in the space of a 4-minute speech" a lot. * This troper tops the lot of you - when he and his friend hang out, they both add "-isticuffs, eh?" onto the end of random words. For example, "Pantsicuffs, eh?", or "Slappicuffs, eh?". * [[MasterTMO Master TMO]] only has one verbal tic, that of often starting sentences with "So..." or "But...". Occasionally, there is nothing more to the sentence than that. * This Troper, satreport, has "seeing as", "no?" and "satreport". (sad-to-report) Seeing as I'm usually the bearer of bad news, it's only convenient to shorten that last phrase. no? * This troper's mother has a habit of tacking "y'know what I mean?" onto the end of her sentences. She's not the only one, either--several of her extended family members do the same thing. While said troper does not engage in this particular tic, she admits to having a few of

her own--most notably her usage of "I've not" instead of the more common "I haven't". * This troper once knew a guy who would transition a sentence with the words "However, comma". Actually pronouncing the word "comma"! * If [[AnthonyMercer This Troper]]'s friend says "Serious", we're allowed to punch him. It will supposedly stop him doing it. Personally, I just enjoy the punching. * This troper has a list..."Know/Understand what I'm saying" and "Am I making sense" are common tag questions, "Where was I?" tends to go with losing his train of thought, and he's picked up [[{{Trigun}} Vash's]]"Arara? Arara." * This troper's best friend has a tendency to add the suffix "ums" to the last word of his sentence, as in: "Do you want to go get some food-ums?" "Let's go to the store-ums." "That was really awesome-ums." If he's being silly, he'll add it to the end of ''every'' word in the sentence. ** This troper has also found herself typing the nonsense, but [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign vaguely Japanese sounding]], phrase "karusonu" into the ends of her messages when she's being [[{{Kawaiiko}} cute.]] She also tends to abuse the "XD" emoticon... * In this troper's area, it's not uncommon to hear a certain type of people using "fucking" as a mid-sentence thinking word. Mine are "like" and "y'know", though I've only been called out on the latter. * This troper's friend has a habit of saying 'tsu' as a sound effect/exclamation. She doesn't even watch that much anime. * Kya. * Subverted by this troper's former math teacher, who noticed that the class overused the word "like" (As in, like, when they added like when it like didn't mean actually liking someone, but you know, like like) and started handing out extra homework to people who said the word. Until today this troper giggles whenever he hears someone saying the word, fully expecting the person to have to sit with another math question. He is continually disappointed. ** "Subverted"? Methinks you edit a few too many articles, kya. * Occasionally when [[{{Kingogtheingdaw}} This troper]] changes subjects he has a tendency to say somewhat loudly, ANYWAYS! ** Are you my twin? * [[CabbitGirlEmi This tropette]] uses "nya" at the drop of a hat, nya. Among other tics, chu. How are you all doing, ne? * Ask any {{Achaea}}n about the character Nyanko. Nyanko is a Rajamala, which is Achaean for "catgirl", and ends every. single. sentence with "nya". It gets old ''extremely'' fast. * [[{{Heleentje}} This troper]] starts off all her sentences with 'er' It annoys her terribly, but she can't get rid of it. She also had a philosophy professor who was fond of saying 'Ik herhaal de gedachte' (which translates to 'I repeat the thought' in Dutch), and a Chinese teacher who liked to add 'Is it clear?' to her sentences. * [[AckSed This editor]] has recently started saying "Et to" because he thinks it means "right,that's done" in Japanese. Or "...oy vey." if he's in the mood for Yiddish. ** "E-to..." Is actually the direct Japanese equivilant for "Um...", used in the exact same situations.

* [[{{Nausicaa}} This troper]] has started to pepper her speech with "dag, yo" at inappropriate times, especially after something absolutely ''terrible'' has happened, in the manner of [[HomestarRunner What's-Her-Face]]. She also either starts or finishes her sentences with "dude", and, more often than not, ends her long, rambling sentences with so yeah. So... yeah. * After a friend mentioned it, this troper found it odd at how her teacher would start a lot of his sentences with "The fact is though, is that... ". This troper herself likes to say "...'n' stuff" at the end of almost everything. * This Dutch Troper was recently correctly asked if he was from the Arnhem area, as people around there end lots of sentences with "joh" (very roughly translating to "dude", without gender). Having never been aware of it, this troper replied "Really, joh?" * This troper's friend has a habit of following up things he says to another male that could have a homosexual context with "no homo." It's become meme status among his friends. As a foil, this troper follows up some of his sentences with "no hetero," despite being (mostly) straight.. * [[TheAdversary This troper]] has "You see, the thing is..." for starting some conversations and explainations, "the thing is..." as a substitute "um" of sorts, a totally over the top cry of "'''...BUT!'''" or "'''...HOWEVER!'''" for emphasis and an annoyed and very fast "I know, I know, I know, I know!" for when I want someone to shut up. * This troper, along with saying "eh" a lot and being a stereotypical Canadian, tends to end her sentences with "...and whatnot" or "...and whatever" if she's not quite sure how to finish. ** In French, she uses "ben" a lot. * [[PotatoBucket This troper]] always seems to start off non-sequiturs with "Speaking of which...". Something like: --->Friend: So I've been having problems getting my [[UnusualEuphemism flash drive]] into her [[UnusualEuphemism USB port]]... --->Troper: Speaking of which, did you know that cuttlefish are more intelligent than dolphins and have only not taken over existence because [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} they're self-conscious about their weird pupils]]? * This troper seems not to be able to answer in the affirmative with the word "yes". The most you're likely to get out of her is an "Aye." And she's American. The usual thing to get out of her is a grunt along the lines of "ah" or "un". ** On that note, this troper brings in a lot of British tics in her speech, though she was born and raised American and has never left the country. She often utters the words "arse", "rubbish" and "buggery". This one crosses over to GoshDangItToHeck quite often, and always with an [[Narm over-the-top]] [[FakeBrit posh English accent.]] Sort of comes from reaction this troper's gotten from doing this. To us [[Eagleland Yanks]], many uniquely British words, combined with the appropriate accent, are [[InherentlyFunnyWord inherently]] [[HilarityEnsues screamingly funny.]] The more posh the accent, the better. *** I am just like both of you, but my "posh" is more like cockney

(and the accent starts and doesn't stop until someone tells me to stop, [[CursedWithAwesome not that I don't like it]]) * This troper has watched too much Beast Wars Transformers ... YEEEEESSS ... * There used to be a teacher in this troper's high school who'd always say "Yes, of course" whenever he passed a student, any student, in the halls. That along with other things made him our Official {{Cloudcuckoolander}}. * Well, this troper has a number of verbal tics, like always starting a sentence with 'well,' or 'actually,' or similar. Oh, and he uses the words 'also' and 'oh' too much, like he meant to stop speaking halfway through the conversation and added something on at the last second. On top of that, he never says 'yes' or 'no', those being 'mmm.' and 'eh.', respectively. And he responds to ''everything'' with those, leading to alot of confusion. * [[SharPhoe This troper]] has two friends, both of with constantly sprinkle the phrase "y'know" though their sentences, even though it's obvious that he DOESN'T know. He plans to start taking tallies of which of them says it more often... * This troper picked a habit up from scanlations of Naruto online. No, it isn't Naruto's. It's Hidan's habit of using 'seriously'. She tends to gain and lose new tics all the time. Lately, it's prefacing things with "You know what's interesting?" or "Wouldn't it be interesting if...". Also, random 'meep's. * [[{{MBurusu}} This Troper]] has had so many verbal tics that the standard number of fingers and toes is insufficient. They've ranged from sentence-enders as [[ShoutOut Shout Out]]-ish as [[MegaManStarForce 'Buku']] and [[Disgaea '-ssu']], to as simple-butvaried as (as of late) an 'Oi' as an attention-getter, a sentencestarter, and as an expression of exasperation. He's also managed to go for good periods of time ending his sentences with 'In America' . . . but his most prolific verbal tic is his EvilLaughter (would you believe that I have at least 5 different types?). * Not exactly a ''verbal'' tic, but this troper has a habit of putting lots of unnecessary ellipses in his writing... however, he only does this when writing casually... not when writing formally (such as letters or reports). In the realm of tics actually verbal, he also uses some strange vocabulary, such as the archaic "methinks", or occasionally speaks in third person for no readily apparent reason ([[TvTropesWillRuinYourLife editing TvTropes has not helped this at all]])... he has also watched far too much [[StargateSG1 Stargate]] and uses "indeed" rather than "yes" or similar. * in addition to the common randomly using the word "like", i also start a LOT of sentences with "actually" and "you know what". i also often end sentences with "right" and "innit" in the british style, even though im american. * This troper had an English teacher who often gave a quiet sing-song "maybe, maaaaybe..." as a non-committal answer. It could be a reference to the song by the Ink Spots, but it was distinctively offkey enough to sound completely different. At times it'll come out of my own mouth, but more often it simply goes off in my head. I think. I hope.

* Is it just me, or was every one of Obama's sentences in his latest speach end with [Cheers and applause]? * [[{{Pichu-kun}} This troper]] has multiple verbal tics. Mostly my use of "hm" for ''everything'',and on the internet my constant use of "Yayz!" for whenever I'm happy or excited. * This Tropette had a lecturer who used "dialogue" instead of talk. Like, "I want to dialogue with him, to make sure I know what he means." I was cracking up. * Umm, [[QuantumToast this troper]] often has one? * {{Raekuul}} has used some of these in the past. Recently, he's been using "ore", "nani", "nyah" and - for some inexplicable reason "moo". * This troper had a high-school chemistry teacher whose disfluencies were once referenced by his (college) freshman speech professor] whose children had also taken classes with the teacher in question. A friend of this troper once suggested that the theoretical element [''teacher's name'']-ium would have an atomic mass equal to the number of times the teacher said "uh," "um," and "er" in the space of one week of classes. We never counted, mainly because we all liked that teacher. He has since retired. * at least one pathologically [[spoiler:fuckin']] foul-mouthed Troper is [[spoiler:fuckin']] possessed nearly compulsory [[spoiler:fuckin']] tendency to punctuate phrases, provide a [[spoiler:fuckin']] kind of running [[spoiler:fuckin']] tone-based commentary, provide additional [[spoiler:fuckin']] emphasis to declarations, and generally [[spoiler:fuckin']] break up speech. Fortunately this little [[spoiler:ass-fuckin']] tic rarely manifests in inconvenient [[spoiler:haha! Fuck!]] company and has not [[spoiler:the fuck]] caused him undue embarrassment for a fair [[spoiler:fuckin']] strech. Oh, except for every [[spoiler:motherFUCKING]] time I call my [[spoiler:fuckin']], er... [[spoiler:fuck]] HIS mom. [[spoiler:ehh fuckery]]. [[spoiler:fuckin']] Meh... I blame society [[spoiler:fuckin' society! FUCK society!]]. At [[spoiler:the fuckin']] least he doesn't say [[spoiler:fucking]] "uhm", right? [[spoiler:FUCK "uhm"!]] * [[@/LooneyToons This troper]] would like to note that his Germanborn uncle, who has been a naturalized citizen of Canada for decades, speaks English with a faint German accent - and a Canadian "eh?" on the end of most of his sentences. * This troper only just recently realised he suffers from this, as he ends most explanations with 'right?' as if seeking confirmation, which is awkward considering the person he is explaining to often doesn't know enough about the topic to confirm it, right? This troper also tends to leave situations that don't end in a satisfactory manner with an 'ah well'. Right? ** Right? Inverting the above troper, this troper recently noticed how frequently she begins sentences (and even conversations) with 'right?' though there's no context for her to be seeking confirmation in the first place. * This troper has some rather unusual tics. Including one that she probably shouldn't attempt to spell out, as her best attempts at doing so come out as "Blodaloodalerp". Yes, she also has the tendency of

ending sentences with the typical So Yeah. And the aformentioned first tic of hers is used whenever she needs a sound effect for anything random, or in mid-sentence, randomly. * This troper has an annoying habit of ending sentences with "and so on" or "and such" or "and the like." He also has a habit of lapsing into foreign languages mid-speech. * This Tropette has a series of verbal tics that I subconsciously rotate in and out. I jest not. [[NameOfCain Cain]] is the ONLY permanent tic though, it serves as a battle cry. * This troper is prone to overuse of "painfully", "disturbingly", and "alarmingly" as adjectives, for example, in the phrase [[MoeMoe "alarmingly sweet" or "painfully adorable"]]. I am also prone to misuse of "sundry". As a sort of substitute for less intelligent sounding verbal tics I have, like, once, really really, uhh, possessed, more like possessed-''ish''... when buying for time, I use [[{{Sandman}} "hoom..."]] * [[TsubasaReservoirChronicle Fai]] is to blame for this one: I often say "Hyuu" as a substitute for a whistle or any word with a similar connotation. As a result, the usual expressions of admiration, like "cool", "wow", "sweet", etc. have been effectively removed from my vocabulary. * [=~Excel-2009~=]. I have one. And yet... ** Also I say "also" too much. * This troper has gone through several verbal tics, yeah. I like, used to, like, use like, like every other word, like yeah? Then I frequently pose everything as a question, yeah? And i never yuse the word adorable anymore, it adowable now, yeah? There there was the y'know? thing i haven't really shooken yet, y'know yeah? Oh, y'know, i like totally didn't mention, yeah? I've been ending every sentence with yeah or ne, but usually yeah, yeah. Also, whenever I'm near my cat, i get the urge to squeal NIPAAA, YEAH? * This troper makes a rather abundant use of the word rather. He's rather fond of it, you see. Also, also. * This troper has two-- making his sentences into questions by means of adding "ya?" (think [[FinalFantasyX Wakka]]), and throwing "yo" to the end of sentences for reasons that I can't quite explain-- "do it yourself, yo" comes to mind. (It doesn't help that it makes this troper sound like a wannabe gangster. IT'S A TIC, I CAN'T HELP IT, YO! D: ) * Please, if anyone is out there, mine is repeating the end of most of my sentences under my breath.I reckon it's like checking over my speech to make sure I didn't say anything I wasn't supposed to.Anyone else got this? ** [[RandomSurfer My]] brother does, or used to anyway. (Unless you're my brother, in which case: Hey, Jer! Apparently you're along in this!) * This troper was put on a "once per day" budget when it came to the word "actually" back in primary school. It hasn't stopped him threatening his youngest sister with death if she doesn't stop using "like" every sentence. * This troper and her sister tend to add the suffix -simo or -sima to a lot of their adjectives when speaking Spanish, translating it to basically "very (adjective)", like "buensimo" is "very good".

Afterwards... well, her brother started to add it to ''nouns'' in retaliation. * This troper has a horrible habit of starting her sentences with the word "So", scattering "y'know" throughout her sentences, ending her sentences with "'K thanks" AND ending lists with "and stuff." * This troper's friend will often respond to things in IRC by saying "o". * This Troper has "many". The biggest one is beginning each question with, "I have a question!". The Troper becomes anxious that no-one will hear her if she doesn't say it, and feels incredibly uncomfortable NOT saying, to the point where she MUST blurt it out at some point, something that drives one of her friends insane. Hehe, his response has become something of a verbal tic for him. That is; -->'''Troper''': I have a question! -->'''Friend''': You always have a fucking question! ** She also uses "like", frequently adds "but" to the end of her sentences (a common tick amongst Queenslanders), unconsciously adds "thingy" to items she's unsure of (eg. "The hold button-thingy) and uses "shoom" as a description, no matter how inaccurate of a description it may be. *** [[RandomSurfer I]] have a tendency to just use the word "Question," to announce that a question is about to occur. I'm always a little amused when someone (usually a stranger, such as a retail store clerk) responds to my "Question" with "Answer." * I'm not sure when it started, but a few years ago, I apparently had an annoying tic of making clicks, pops, whooshes, and other sounds with my mouth, almost like punctuation. (Not nearly as classy as Victor Borge's work, though.) After my dad pointed it out, I was able to quickly stamp it out in the course of a few days. * [[{{Lullabee}} This troper]] has a bad habit of beginning sentences with "it's like" when [[ShapedLikeItself talking about something that actually is what she's saying it is]]. "It's like, he ate a sandwich." * This Spanish troper answers a good 75% of any yes/no question posed to her with "No particularmente" (Not really/Not that much). And when speaking English, she'll buy time for herself in the middle of sentences with random "I mean..." and "You know, like..." and such. It's irritanting, because she catches herself doing it and wonders if the person she's speaking with finds it as annoying as she does. * I end my sentences with something sounding like "N'da" or "Daishi Da", either way, I try to stop myself, but I just can't seem to do it, Daishi Da * This troper is mildly addicted to adverbs. * This troper had an English teacher who said "theoretically" all the time when explaining things or talking to us about a certain chapter in a book. * This Troper went through a phase where, at the end of her sentences, she would ''purr''. * This troper is in the habit of ending a lot of expositional sentences by trailing off with so... It's an unfortunate habit, recognized by my family as being extremely annoying, but I don't seem to be able to put a stop to it, so... * [[{{Kaizykat}} This Troper]] has a lot of verbal tics. She has

weaned herself from saying "like", but has found herself saying "y'know?" in its place. "Ne?" is her all purpose word for "What/huh/hmm". Her tics aren't that noticeable in English, but they're very drawn out when she's speaking Spanish. For example, "Fuiste al cine, no? Te divirti?" (You went to the movies, right? Did you have fun?) will turn into "Ahh...Fuiste al cine, no? Yyyy Te divirti?" (Ahh... You went to the movies, right? Andddd did you have fun?). She blames it on the fact that her Spanish teachers didn't focus on dialogue in class. * This troper says 'Meh' and 'Neh' a lot. They go at the beginning of sentences she's not quite sure about, at the ends of sentences she doesn't know how to finish, and can also be used as a response to almost any question. ** Recently, 'Neh' has evolved into 'Nay'. It's usually a question. If I want clarification or if someone's calling me, "Nay?" If I didn't hear something clearly, it's "Nay, what?" * This troper has taken to ending yes/no inquisitive sentences with "or?" * This troper has found that when not sure of the answer to a question, his subconscious forces him to go "Maybe. [[TeamFortress2 * sniff* Maybe.]]" * This troper tends to use "Indeed..." whenever he loses his train of thought. He also has a rather curious propensity for spontaneously [[AntiquatedLinguistics antiquating his lingustics]] mid-sentence, ending up sounding like some manner of new-age GilbertAndSullivan character. * This troper used to tack on "no?" to the end of most of his sentences. He grew out of it. But gained the habit of snapping his fingers instead when thinking. * This troper had a teacher that added "here" in the middle of any sentence. * There is a teacher in this troper's school who is infamous for her use of the word "alright" or "aight" in nearly all of her sentences. Beginning, middle, end - doesn't matter so long as she has that word in. She also loves to end her sentences in "mmmkaaaay?" Many students have been known to ignore her lessons and keep a running tally of just how many times she says each word. In a fifty minute period, one student counted "alright" or any variation of the word at least 180 times. * This troper has developed a habit of saying "gao" in every day conversation. Depending on the inflection, it can mean...anything. It can be a cry of unhappiness, a nervous stutter, a cheerful greeting, and so on and so forth. She has no idea why she's so dependent on it, especially since she's only seen one anime where it's used...and only one episode of that anime. * For [[{{Tropers.Akiba}} This Troper]], the tic is "[[MontyPythonsFlyingCircus exploding penguins]]." It's usually heard when he's forgotten what he was going to say... exploding penguins. Oh, and there's also "I forgot what I was going to say" and "my train of thought derailed." (Instead of "I lost my train of thought." The reason? "[[FridgeLogic How does one lose a train?]]") Also, there's probably half a dozen more that he's not sure about... His train of

thought just derailed... Now he's rambling.... * This troper has acquired the habit of adding 'Fact.' after every theoretic sentence, probably because of a TV show. Fact. ** And said troper's friend has a tic of saying 'Now's good' after strange discussion topics. [[FridgeLogic His logic makes 2+ 2=fish; mine makes 2+ 2=duck. My logic eats his logic]]. * [[AliasofaWartortle This Troper]] is a bit scatter-brained and really only hangs out with one person. Considering this person happens to know me well and we have a few RunningGags between us, I always stop before that would come up cause yeah. It would confuse anyone else, true, yet yeah. Hard habit to shake there. * This troper tends to add "but" to the end of her sentences when explaining or contradicting something as a screwed up version of however, and when inquiring on the internet always adds "ne?" to the end or her sentences (and "~" for everything else, even if not verbal). She also has a friend who will start every sentence with "technically" leading to verbal tic wars. "THAT'S NOT WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE TECHNICALLY, BUT!" * This troper has a RunningGag with his friends that when you use so yeah, you add "ish...ness...ly. Ishnessly." To the word at the end of the sentence. "The dress was so pink that it was... well, pinkish...ness... ly. Pinkishnessly. Yeah. * This troper had a Spanish teacher who, when she speaks English, intersperses "y'know" in her sentences. She's native ''Costa Rican''. Presumably she picked up this super-annoying habit when she learned English. ** Luckily, she doesn't do this when she speaks Spanish or else this troper [[AuthorExistenceFailure would not be here]] to tell you about it. * [[{{Magus}} This troper's]] friend often punctuates his speech with "wah!". * Yeah, This Troper has a tendency to either begin sentences with "Yeah" (which also sometimes occurs when he's writing), sprinkle his speech with stuff like "sorta kinda", "kinda like" or some variation of the two. Also he's unable to achieve a MotorMouth speed of talking since when he does so he starts stumbling over his, his, he starts... Yeah. Finally he will tend to end sentences with "... And all that" to the point where a Teacher starts joking about {{Chicago}} and all that... * {{Scrounge}} tends to grunt or sigh fairly often, and also has a tendency to trail off at the end of a sentence and... * This troper usually ends his sentences in so yeah, and it annoys his mom. He also has a tic where he says what's on his mind or things just said under his breath. * This troper tends to echo the last few syllables he spoke under his breath. ** Are you my long-lost clone? * This troper will often begin or end sentences with "dude" when addressing close friends as a means of expressing surprise, interest, or, of all things, punctuating that said friend(s) (or something we are currently viewing) made an intellectual error of some sort. Example: Dude, that close to a black hole, even outside of the event

horizon, you're not getting away with any feasible space craft. * This troper has some {{Catch Phrase}}s. But some habits might count as Verbal Tic: addressing people with generic adjetives/pronouns ("man", "boy", "subject", "individual", "girl", "woman"), or derrogatory terms (my particular favorite is "unhappy" - I'm used to after using, hearing "Are you calling me unhappy?!"), sometimes related to animals; religious expletives ("Oh my God", "Virgin", "Holy Cross"); and falling into monologues, specially starting/during IM conversations ("will he hear me?"). * Well, [[{{Gigaspine7}} this troper]] usually begins explanations with "Well,..." Not even two years of speech therapy got rid of this one. He also has a rare tendency to accidentally cut off the last syllable of the last word in a paragraph and say it a second later rather soft...[[AC:ly]]. * This troper has developed a nonsense verbal tic seemingly out of nowhere, natch. It's really annoying to suppress it in day-to-day conversations, natch... See? No clue if it means anything.... natch. * This Troper's habit is to laugh after every third or fourth sentence. While it never got on anyone elses nerves, it can tick ME off. * This Troper always says 'right' when agreeing to something. * This troper had a headteacher who always overused the word 'actually', and emphasised it - "I'd like to welcome our new teacher who is * actually* going to work in the maths department" "I'd like to congratulate the basketball team, who * actually* placed in the league semifinals" etc... * This troper has a friend who adds ",sir" to the end of nearly every sentence. He even does it in texts and IM's. The only really tick I have is that in any apology that isn't for a serious situation I pronounce "sorry" in a mock-british like accent. (phonetically "soreh") Started out as a joke and just worked it's way into my normal speach. * I went to visit a friend who, when asked a yes or no question to which 'Yes' is the answer, would say "Yeah-- I mean, JAAAAAA." * This troper does this a lot. She overuses the word [[ApologizesALot sorry]] to the point of one of her friends' annoyance, peppers sentances with 'y'know/kinda/like/sorta' for no explicable reason and can't help but refer to everyone as 'dude'. Everyone, including teachers and parents. It doesn't upset her mom, [[BerserkButton now her dad]]...This seems to run in the family, as her mom says 'y'know' to almost the same extent, and has to begin/end/fill anecdotes, 'I told 'em, I said...' Yes, the whole statement. This troper likes to lampshade it, but has sorta [[GotMeDoingIt started picking it up herself...]] . Dude...I have to like stop doing this sorta thing, y'know? * This troper does this too. They're mostly only noticeable when typed, though. One day, I decided to find the perfect spelling of my favourite low chuckle, and it ended up being [[TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen "Aheheh..."]] But it turns out that it really stuck, to the point that this dialogue happens during a live-action role-playing game I participated in: ** Character 1: What are you doing here?

** Character 2: (points at me) Ask Mr Aheheh! ** This Troper: (gagging and nearly giving another Aheheh in response) * This troper's friend starts every sentence with "Well..." and every question with "I have a question." Our English teacher told her to stop it so she replaced 'well' with 'now'. * This troper ends many sentences with "seriously", sometimes when it's not warranted. * Rather than "um", This Troper fills gaps in sentences with "fuckin'" or "feckin'". When talking to teachers it evolves into "f-ehhhh". She also ends a lot of sentences with "or whatever". * This Swedish Troper had a high school Spanish teacher who ended every fourth sentence with "frstr ni vad jag menar?", which is Swedish for "do you get what I'm saying?" We all realised that she didn't really mean that as a question, and never waited for us to answer. But once, my ex boyfriend (although we [[WillTheyOrWontThey didn't become a couple until years after]] this particular event)actually answered with a ''no'', which prompted her to start over and repeat everything she had said up to that point. * [[MightyJAK This troper's]] exwife had the habit of ending every insult with "-lookin' ass". This might've made sense if it was an insult like "Get out of here with your Pee-Wee Herman-lookin' ass", but she typically used it as a closer for a rambling tirade of insults that had ''nothing'' to do with the insultee's appearance, such as mocking their speech patterns; "Shut up with your 'Yeah dude'-lookin' ass". * [[JustCallMeNed This Troper]] is very easily annoyed by people with verbal tics, ([[HypocriticalHumor though to be fair, he probably could be said to have one of his own]] [[GrammarNazi being militantly rigid about grammar and pronunciation]]) so naturally, he attracts people with them. One egregious example and that is a friend who inserts the phrase "and that" into his speech and that. I counted how often and that he'd use it on a few occasions and that, and his record is about five times and that in a single sentence and that. It's gotten to be very annoying and that, because he likes [=RPG=]s and that, but this tic and that ensures that all of his characters and that all sound the same and that. Sometimes it ends up that a conversation with him is more him saying "and that" than actually speaking and that. It's becoming a BerserkButton and that for me. * ''Uh''-This Troper has one. * One of {{Sarahsuke}}'s aunts uses "so it is" as a filler. * This Troper had the tendency to say "technically" quite often while her sister used the word "seriously". When this was pointed out, we started a contest where we had to use our word in every single sentence, and whoever kept it up the longest won. And yes, that meant even at school when the sibling wasn't around. We lasted 2 days, and I [[GotMeDoingIt seriously]] plan to never use the word "technically" ever again. * [[Colonial1.1 This Troper]] has an odd habit offf... pausing in the middle of his sentences in order to avoid... the dreaded "uh" or "um". Consequently, most conversations with me tend to go at a slower, more leasurely pace. * Well then, it appears that this troper repeats herself at the end of

sentences, then. * This troper has one pretty much in the form of "um..." because normally his mouth runs faster than his brain. * This German Troper and his friends utter many chat phrases like, "lol" (''very'' frequently) "OMG!" (or "zomfg" as variation), "WTF!", "lmao" and so on. And they're prone to use "whatever" at the end of a sentence, mostly in English, rarely in German, though. * This Troper's brother '' '''cannot''' '' speak a single sentance without adding the word right. It drives me crazy! Especially when he's telling a story and says 'right?' about five ''hundred'' times. * This troper's calculus teacher ends every sentence with "and all". * This troper has the tendency to say, "Oi" "Aye" "Crap" "Fart" when in confused/annoyed, "Um" "Like" "So" "Er" and "Eh?" in typical conversation, and sometimes changes pronunciation of words while talking (Elephant because EEL aff int.) * This troper's uncle has a tendency to randomly insert the phrase "turn around" into almost every sentence (and apparently was unaware of it until it was mentioned it to him). * This troper had the "you know" tic BAD as a child. My mother cured me in an interesting manner. When talking to her, every time I stuck in a superfluous "you know," she would immediately and loudly parrot "YOU KNOW?" right back at me. It kept interrupting my chain of thought, and called attention to just how frequently I was using it. * This troper can barely finish a sentence in Tagalog without saying "eh", a sentence in Spanish without saying "ah", and sometimes sentence in English without saying "um". I have three verbal tics for three languages...man I need help. * This troper (hereafter referred to as I) has a few in her family. My great-grandmother used to litter the middle of some sentences with "y'know, like that," even when she wasn't comparing anything. My mom hums "deet-dee-dee..." when she forgets something obvious. My brother is a walking meme thanks to the internet and litters his words with "over 9000 * somethings* ". Whatever I have, I got from friends and people from other countries, funnily: ** Thanks to learning Spanish, I tend to mutter or exclaim "Ay!" when frustrated. Thanks to having friends from Australia and New Zealand, I tend to say "oh, no worries," as a reply to "sorry" or "thanks". And thanks to having friends from those countries and a boyfriend in England, I would refer to my cats when they act silly, or even a cute little critter I find, as a "little bugger..." Heh, and I like every single one of our tics, they're amusing. * This troper has a few. For specific situations, She'll be talking to someone she doesn't know very well, stop in the middle of her sentence, and say [[CharacterFilibuster "I talk in PARAGRAPHS!!"]] Or if she's surprised, saying "Woah, Hello, world!!" At one friend's house, this troper seems to end every sentence with "Thanks", as well... I also tend to say what I'm doing as I'm doing it, especially when I'm on the phone. "Walkingwalkingwalking..."And whatnot... Also, I end all explanatory sentences with "and whatnot." or "And all that fun jazz." * This South African troper's many verbal tics include peppering my sentences with "hey?", "like", y'know" and "innit?"...

* Hmmm? This Troper has a reverse verbal tick: He begins most of his sentences with "Hmmm?". * This Chinese troper has a bad habit of saying "ai ya" at the smallest things. Or maybe I'm just lazy. * This Troper has way too much verbal tics to count. When explaining something, I'd start the sentence with "Well...". When talking to someone, I'd randomly start my sentences with "Duuuuuuuuuuude..." or "Man". I've recently found out that I said the former in a different language, but it sounds more like a question and I only do it when I bump into someone. * This troper laughs. ALOT. Hehehe.... * This troper has a nasty habit of starting almost every other written sentence with "so" or "basically" when he's writing out whatever comes to his mind. It makes editing very difficult if he's writing an essay at 2am, hours before the deadline. Also, thanks to [[TvTropesWillRuinYourLife Tv Tropes]], this troper has stopped using spaces when there are two or more words * This troper's precal (and then calculus) teacher in high school ended every sentence with "m'kay". More often than not, the "m" was really "mmmmmmmmmmmmmm". We made fun of him soooooo much. But then he stopped saying it. We think he stopped on purpose. * You know, this troper starts conversations with an important thing he needs to say by saying 'you know'. * This troper ends nearly every sentence in casual conversation with "yo", to the point where when talking with close friends online I still type out the "yo" at the end of typed sentences. * This troper is surrounded by verbal tics... ** Former US History teacher would literally say "Um" over 200 times in a 40 minute class. She also had a penchant for "basically" and "essentially". As a result, these are three words I purposely try to exclude from all of my speech. ** Well, I tend to start written and some spoken sentences with "Well,". * Especially common a few years back, but for me my use of "um's and 'er's were so frequent during in-class rants that I didn't think through before raising my hand, that at my (AWESOME) school some of the kids created a rap consisting solely of my sampled ums and ers taken from phone recordings and videos. not all that embarrassing, but an epic win/CMOA for one of the usually most polite kids in the school (think 3- Rock's Kenneth polite, SANS unfortunate implications!). * This troper took Japanese the last school year (it was a year long course, ne?). Being Canadian, he has started to interchange "eh" and "ne" at the end of his sentances. * This troper has one. FAIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU~! * This Swedish troper has many. For starters, I pepper my speech with the word "typ" (as mentioned in the Real Life section), which is probably the Swedish equivalent of inserting "like" everywhere. I also tend to begin my sentences with "Grejen r..." ("the thing is...") and I use "s kan det vara" ("it can be like that") as a filler. Finally, I have a habit of using phrases in foreign languages in the middle of something said in Swedish (example: I almost always use the German "danke schn" instead of the Swedish "tack" when thanking for

something.) * This troper once literally had an ICT teacher who basically had one of these. he effectively added "basically", "effectively" or "literally" to anything he said. these were basically replaced with "at this point in time". when he was using the former three, I [[OverlyLongGag effectively]] kept a tally during one lesson for uses of any of the three. the final total? SEVENTEEN. * This troper has two when speaking Spanish (as a second language). Sentences are frequently started with a very long 'y' (pronounced "eeeeeeee..."), and are often ended with "Si... si". I've been told the first is common in native speakers, but in my case they're both more likely caused by having to think out what I'm saying. * This troper has a rather annoying habit of stopping in the middle of a sentence, repeating it, and THEN going on to finish it. Said out loud, it goes like this: "This troper has a-- this troper has a rather annoying habit of stopping in the middle of a-- in the middle of a sentence." She is also practically incapable of going five minutes without saying "seriously". Seriously. * This troper has an odd habit of saying "No" at the end of every sentence, which stemmed from an old habit of saying "Just Kidding" after every sarcastic comment. Since she was nine or so, it's gone from "Just kidding" (said intentionally) to an involuntary "jus'kiddin", "-no" or occasionally"-non" when speaking very fast. A sentence spoken to my sister (as she was talking about our looks, a week after she had told me I looked "average" in a lie-detecting excercise at the Ontario science center)can go somewhat like this: Sure, after you told me I looked average-no... Ah, just kidding-no... -* Oh, so many teachers at my school. My old Biology teacher inserted "Now, what you're gonna find, lads/gents, is..." (all-male school, btw) into virtually every explanation. My deranged English teacher uses "All right?" in a low monotone about twice per sentence - think SouthPark's Mr Mackey, but a deeper voice. My quiet, slightly scary Maths teacher constantly says "Alls you've got to do, boys, is..." Can't unhear any of them. * Whenever this troper makes a bad joke or wants to take something she says back, she immediately blurts 'no!' or 'wait!' Along with this, the troper also says 'excuse me' and 'sorry' almost compulsively. It doesn't help that her brother has an actual tic disorder (along with ADD), and so this troper is constantly panicking over whether she'll develop real tics. * This troper has been developing a tic of his own: ent. started with anno, then worked it around in his head, now thinks it at the end of every question, finding himself actually saying it. Interesting, ent? * This Troper has a tendency to refer to his male friends using "You, sir...". * This Troper's school's computer-help guy will very often end sentences with a little laugh, ranging from a barely-audible "hm" to a barely-ignorable "MM-HMM-HMM-HM." It's not a genuine laugh, unless he were laughing at his own statement, but it still doesn't sound like it and how funny the statement was doesn't determine how the laugh is. It's just... a weird, likely unintentional laugh, for no reason. But

it's so funny that when I first started talking to him, I'd laugh as well whenever he did it. My friend also did once I got him to notice it. * This troper doesn't know if this has been mentioned, right? I think you can guess what my VerbalTic is, right? If you can't, I'll just say it myself, okay. I have a bad habit of ending sentences with "Right?" or "Okay.". Especially if I'm overexited, okay. * Okay, so this Troper has one. It's also in french, his native language: "Bon, alors ce Tropeur en un." * This troper has an odd habit of making a purring/chirping sound in replace of words like "thank you," "you're welcome," "I agree," basically any form of polite affirmative. A lower squawk or a cat-like hiss takes the place of negatives. * For This Troper, it's "Meh." When a friend asked her about this, she explained it by stating how multi-purpose the noise is. Agreeing? "Meh heh." Annoyed? "MEeeeh." Sad? "Meeeehh..." Also why she doesn't have any entries on the Angrish page. It all comes out as a long, painful "MMMMEEEEHHH!!!" * This Troper's friend has a habit of saying "I'm genuinely serious" about pretty much everything that she thinks people might doubt, if even a little bit. That's fair enough, but she always seems to end up saying "I'm generally serious" nine times out of ten, which can get a bit annoying as this Troper is a grammar correcting fiend, much to her friend's annoyance. * There is a strange noise, like something between a hum and a whistle, that I make after most sentences. Even my parents sometimes laugh at me because of it. In fact, it has become such an integral part of my thought pattern when I think about speaking, that I often use it even while I am writing. hmm * Mine seems to be saying ummm....and pausing when I cant think of what to say. I use this online too in my sentences.....by adding a load of these dots as a pause. I say OMG a lot, although I have to try not to in front of the Catholic first graders I teach. * This troper has the oddest habit of ending all her sentences and conversation's with, "Anyways..." And it gets REALLY confusing when she doesn't say anything afterward, which leaves everyone in the longest of silences, expecting her to speak again. Thankfully, her friends and family have grown used to it so its not as awkward but when she meets new people... * This troper ends a good %15 of his sentences with "You know what I mean?", which in practice is usually pronounced without spaces, or simply as "'Namean?". He has been told that it makes him sound like mafioso on speed. * When this troper's computer science teacher was in college, he got infected with a virus that appended "dude" to every sentence in his text documents, with lead to a sort of [[{{Sophisticated As Hell}} dissonance between the content and the vocal tic]] when he had to submit his term papers. * This troper's friend has the tendency to end her sentences with "kyo". She even ends most of the sentences she types on the internet with "kyo". It turns out that she can ''easily control it but doesn't feel like it''. It's as annoying as it sounds.

* The above troper's reponses to questions usually begin with either "um" or "what?". And since she's a bit of a ShrinkingViolet, hearing me end sentences with a quiet "so yeah..." isn't too uncommon either. * Similar to the above troper, this troper seems to always end her sentences with "Anyways..." But sometimes ends them with a loud "Haaah?!" for emphasis. Also, when frustrated, scared, or annoyed, she'll yell "Aiyaahh!" Granted, I am Asian(Vietnamese), but my friends love to call me out on it, haaah?! Anyways... * I've recently (and thankfully) grown out of saying "am I right?" at the end of most sentences... HALLELUJAH * This troper tends to curse in German or Hebrew when irritated... which is odd, due to the fact that he is neither German, nor Jewish. * I have a habit of saying "You know [something]?" when about to explain something similar to [something], even if [something] is so ridiculously obvious that they MUST know it. He also has a TEXTUAL tic on forums of reverting to nocaps and nopunctuation when either sarcastic or terrified (E.G oh yes because that makes sense) or simply typing "uhm..." when falling into his ever-so-common AccidentalPervert moments. * Recently, I end a lot of my sentences with "yo", even online, yo. Other {{VerbalTic}}s I use are "dude ranch" and "for serious". Finally, my sister and I ripped off "degesu" from Escargon of the KirbyOfTheStars anime, simply because of how funny and cute it is. ~ FairyRed * [[Tropers/StongRadd This Troper]] TIC parodies this TIC trope. And for some TIC reason it's not at TIC all annoying, TIC. * For me, its long pauses between everything I say, my best friend has one too, she ends almost every sentence with innit * Uhum, [[@/{{Cheeseypoofs}} This Troper]]'s friend Matthew has a VerbalTic, [[SmallNameBigEgo and it is]] ''[[SmallNameBigEgo way]]'' [[SmallNameBigEgo better than yours]]. * This troper has a habit of talking in... [[BuffySpeak y'know, that thing with the talking and the Buffy and... stuff..]] * I sometimes end sentences with "nya" or "meep". Also, when i get angry or annoyed, i often start chanting [[AxisPowersHetalia "kolkolkolkol"]] ** Dropped the "nya" now. Still use "meep" and "kolkolkol", though. * This troper has a habit of attaching "or something" to statements and "or what" to questions or something. * This troper has the tendency to stretch out wordddssssss. I also use copious amount of -ish. * {{Annebeeche}}: I once went through a phase in which I subconsciously added the word "-sauce" after select words, a la "awesome-sauce". This has led to words like lolsauce, coolsauce, amazingsauce, d'awwsauce, depressingsauce, and others. ** I also once in a while make a little nya. This is not often enough to be really a verbal tic, though, not added at the end of sentences, and actually sounds like a real cat. * This troper has a bad habit of punctuating her speech with the phrase "I don't know." For example, if asked for her analysis of a book, her answer would sound something like; "It seemed like [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory a metaphor for Jesus.]] I don't know."

Every sentence making a definite statement will end in the phrase, even if she ''does'' know, and is fairly sure of what she's saying. She also makes a "ch-ch-ch" sound when thinking, and will give a loud, derisive "tah!" when someone makes a ridiculous statement ([[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} cloudcuckoolander]] friends claiming to be normal often receive this response). * {{nicktoonhero}} has a VerbalTic in RealLife. He has a rare habit of saying 'already' twice in the same sentence, once in the middle of the sentence, and twice in the end of the sentence. Other tics include saying 'uuuuuuh...' for a long time when thinking and saying 'I don't know' in response to a question ''even if he knows the answer.'' * This troper has a few things you can count on him saying at least once a sentence. They include: like, you know, I mean, man, hella, and dude. In fact, that last one usually starts off my sentences when I'm talking to friends. * This troper has a strange habit of pausing and then saying "Question" or "Serious question" before she asks anyone anything. * This troper has like, a tendency to say the word "Liksom", which is like, Norwegian for "Like" or "Sort of", in almost every sentence he ever says. * I could always add "-uh" to the end of my sentences when I was younger. It ''really'' annoyed my teachers. * I've seen people ''[[BeyondTheImpossible type out their verbal tics on]]'' ''FaceBook''! * I say end sentances with "n stuff", and "sort of" sometimes when things are perfectly made clear, n stuff. Now I meow, sort of. * This swedish troper says "Eller hur?" every other senctence, often with different meanings behind it. "Eller hur!" (I know, right!?). "Eller hur?" (Don't you agree?). "Eller hur..." ([[SarcasmMode Yeah, right]].) Quite annoying, eller hur? * I tend to say x & tack on "and stuff like that," or use a word & tack on an -osity to words that don't usually use it in appropriate spots (for example, replacing shyness with shyosity). * This troper's Physics professor often ends his sentences with quick "...and things like that." * [[{{Tropers/Ventisia}} This Troper]] used to end her sentences with "right?" a lot. * This troper has a habit of making a click with his tounge when annoyed sounding like a Tch * This Troper has a Latin teacher who has a tendency to use the -age suffix randomly both at the ends of words (Latinage for example) and in place of other syllables (like when he reads the "announcage). * This troper has a very odd habit of adding 'per' to the ends of her friends' names, for absolutely no reason, and she has no idea where this came from- since it isn't even a proper honorific and she isn't even from a country that uses them. Also has a habit of saying 'impressive' and 'not bad' a lot. * I've picked up the habit of saying {{Klonoa}}-ish things for when I so things, muttering "yatsa" for greeting and stretching, "adawell" for aw well, I also chuckle a lot more like sonic. * For some reason, saying "wait" as a verbal tic or an elaborated version of "um" is a known habit of people from my hometown, and I'm

not immune. I say "I mean" and "for some reason", end my sentences with conjunctions but can't be bothered to fill in the rest, and abuse "like" way too much, and that's just me. And, like, I sometimes type them too. I mean, I'm trying to break the habit, but... * I once had a math teacher who added "go through and" to verbs for no apparent reason. "Let's go through and look at the homework." "Let's go through and do the first problem." "I'll just go through and take attendance." I also had a self defense instructor who added "sit" to verbs. "You can just sit there and punch him." "Let's sit and practice this." She never really meant anyone would be sitting; perhaps her feet were tired? * Anyone living in GreatBritain will know someone who say's 'innit' or other chav words a considerable amount of times. This troper himself receantly realized he says 'I Mean' at the start of almost every sentance he speakes or writes. I mean, I only realized it after I started making other characters in fanfiction say it. * This tropette has a tendency to start every sentence with 'Dude' or 'omigosh.' * This Troper calles everyone "hon" or "honey" apparently, she is fated to work at a GreasySpoon * This Troper repeatedly uses "NYA!" at the end of her sentences (and by accident half of the time, because my first anime addiction was {{Tokyo Mew Mew}}); also, I say "Ohmigod!" about a billion times per day. It's to the point of where my friends and my classmates have noticed. * This troper has a friend who uses the phrase "You have to admit..." to start sentences quite frequently, even if no one is arguing anything. I used to say "For that matter," a lot, but have since stopped, to be replaced by the habit of repeating to myself sentences or phrases that I feel are particularly well-constructed bits of rhetoric. (''...particularly well-constructed bits of rhetoric...'') * This troper has recently noticed (to her irritation) that she's started to add every sentence with the word "No." She also ends her sentences with conjunctions sometimes, as a previous troper described. * I often agree to something with a simple,short and monotonous "hm." * Hm. I have.. Well, a pretty decent - Or rather 'quite' decent (Heh) - amount of those when writing. Anyway, here's a hottip; [[hottip:*: Starting with 'Hm.' Using the (incorrect but oh so cool) double period ellipsis. Starting a sentence with 'Well,'. Using the words 'Pretty', 'Quite' and 'Anyway'. Using '- -' to construct more elaborate sentences. Using the semi-laugh exclamation 'Heh'. Adding irrelevant sidenotes in parentheses. Abusing the dee-licious semicolon.]] * This troper ends random sentences with 'so hard' so hard. * I have this weird tendency to shout "shut the fuck up" at weeaboo nerds who think throwing random Japanese into their sentences makes them sound cool. * This troper has way too many. When he sees something interesting, his reaction is usually "Ohey, a [whatever]". He ends questions with the word "or" , and if nothing happens for a long enough he'll start saying "So...", "Alright, then", "Anyway" and so on. If he's trying to prod a group of people into doing something more interesting, sentences like "Anyway, are we going to do something, or?" happen a

lot. --Return to VerbalTic, annat. ....[[SuzumiyaHaruhi nyoro~]]. ----

VeryFalseAdvertising * [[@/{{endlessness}} This troper]] stayed on a small hotel when he went to another city for an engineering conference with some other people from his university. The hotel billed itself as being a nice, modern, full-featured place. However, the hotel was horrible: ** It had the overall feeling of never having been cleaned since the early 1960s; ** the stairs were too small for two people to confortably pass; ** the floors were EXTREMELY slippery (to the point that a girl which was in high heels fell and bruised herself); ** some of the rooms didn't have air conditioning or a fridge at all, and only very dim lighting - fortunately this was in the winter, when A/C is not needed at all; ** there were a lot of nasty workarounds and kludges in the building's wiring and plumbing; ** [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And the coffee served at breakfast was cold.]]

VetinariJobSecurity * This troper is in a marching band. I'm not the best person in my section by far, despite being an upperclassman, and people often get frustrated with me. One day, I get sick, and have to stay home and miss a practice. The next day, the section leader pulled me aside to talk to me. Here's about how the conversation went: ->Section Leader: "Okay, you aren't allowed to miss anymore." ->Me: "Oh God. Was it really that bad?" ->SL: "*glares at the freshmen* Yeah. Turns out they don't know what they're doing without you here." I felt really important that day. ** [[{{@/Delpolo}} I]] went through something quite similar in my orchestral band at the Christmas concert during the last year of school. After missing a week from generally over-working myself on projects and all, which meant being absent from the weekly band practice, the leader ''called me at home'' to make sure I was okay and ready for the concert the next day; when I came to see them on the special pre-concert practice it seems like the other clarinets were ready to give up without my lead. (Thankfully, they seem to have improved and I think they'd manage now.) *** This troper had something similar happen in high school. She was the costume mistress for the theatre department and, okay, ran the

dressing room with an iron fist. Getting sick for several days of dress rehearsals led to coming back to a room that looked like it hadn't been cleaned in months or possibly years. The fallout [[hottip:*:IceQueen filled with UnstoppableRage]] from that incident created a Vimes like situation though: the next time she was sick she came back to find everything put away (even a few things she herself hadn't found a place for yet had been stashed out of sight) -- they even wiped down the counters and cleaned ALL of the mirrors! * This troper used to work at a convenience store where everybody else pulled a variety of ploys to avoid mopping the floor. When I complained to the supervisor about this, I was repeatedly accused of bad will and "not being a team player." Fortunately, I had a three-day weekend coming during a week where we had a lot of snow storms, so I simply whistled innocently as I locked shop, knowing all too well what would happen next. Come tuesday morning and the supervisor saw the horrifying state of the unmopped floor (three full days going on four), she had no other choice but to accept that I had been right all along. I was not the only one cleaning the floors from that point on, she made sure of that.

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VictoriousChildhoodFriend * This troper accidentally fell in love with his best friend from 7th grade. It was completely unintentional, and he was just trying to help her put things together. She's nearly 21 now, to this troper's 19, and when she started dropping hints, this troper started blushing like a schoolboy. Just last night, we made it official. * My story's still in the writing [[hottip:*:Oh, well, God's Will and Providence are always best, no matter what form they come in.]], but best wishes to all of you, no matter what happens! * [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend This troper has no such story to tell]] (yet?). He just wandered here to get the warm and fuzzies reading this page, and then realized that it had no entries. ** Now that's just depressing. ** Indeed, because this troper wandered in for the same reason... ** This Troper doesn't have any such story to tell either. But she wonders why this list is a bit thin. ** This troper was close once, but due to it being a [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] and that he also came in here for the fluffy {{Shipping}} goodness, he'll stay silent. * This troper isn't sure if this counts. It is still worth a shot. This troper's parents met when her mother was 12, her father 16 (he was dating her sister). They became friends, but didn't date or get mushy until her mother was 22. They were married when she was 24, and have been married for over 25 years, without any signs of stopping. ** Wow, he broke up with his girlfriend and then married her sister, and nobody got stabbed or anything? *** Not everyone's a stab-happy {{Yandere}}.

**** That and it was just a casual, high school romance in between two people in the same class. My aunt didn't and still doesn't care, she's very happily married to my uncle and my dad avoids her like the plague. * This troper's parents almost fit this perfectly. They met when my mom moved to the same little island as my dad around age ten, and they became close friends (since my dad needed something better to do than getting tortured by his three older brothers). They're happily married now, with two children. However, they didn't begin dating until late in high school - and my mom actually turned my dad down when he asked her to prom, which he is still somewhat sore over (although her reasoning was justified - she already had a boyfriend). * This Troper's aunt and uncle fit this trope so perfectly that even my parents describe their romance as "something out of a movie." They first met in preschool when they were both 4. Went to the same elementary, middle, and high schools, started dated during middle school (throughout elementary and middle school, my aunt was a fat girl who [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer all of the other children (except my uncle) avoided or made fun of.]] When she [[SheIsAllGrownUp matured and slimmed down]] into a HelloNurse my uncle hit the KarmicJackpot), went to the senior prom together, dated throughout college, and married soon after graduating. * [[{{Night}} This Troper]] is uncertain whether 13 counts as childhood enough to qualify him as VictoriousChildhoodFriend, or that 15 qualifies it for her. Nevertheless he adds this note to the TroperTales page so it's a little more hope-building. * [[GamerFromJump This troper's dad]] met my mom when he was eleven and she 12. They dated when he was 15 (she thought [[{{Wise Beyond Their Years}} he was 17]]), even though they went to different schools. They got married when he was 18 ([[DoggedNiceGuy him overcoming her earlier decision to never marry]]). It's been 35 years since then, and they're still HappilyMarried. * [[SolitaireRoulette This troper's parents]] went to school together, and really only saw each other after that through parties at mutual friends' houses. Her mother was dating another man, and broke it off with him to be with her dad. When said father went away to college without a word, her mother got back together with the other man, and they were soon engaged. At a party the night before the wedding, a friend of her mother's told her there was someone in the kitchen to see her, and it turned out to be her father. [[EveryoneCanSeeIt The kitchen quickly vacated so that they could talk.]] According to her mother, her hands began to shake and her knees buckled, but when she told him she was engaged, he said "Congratulations. [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy I hope you are happy.]]" He apparently followed her and her fiance out to the cars, but didn't say a word. Her mother quickly ended the engagement (which she claims would have gone bad anyway), got ahold of her father's address, and they began exchanging letters until her father returned to take her away. After around 12 years together, [[SolitaireRoulette this troper]] was born, and they were married two years later. As much BelligerentSexualTension as they had, their marriage is strong, and this troper cannot find a single sign that it is going downhill.

** Epic. ** This may be the best love story that this troper has ever heard. * This troper and his girlfriend were PlatonicLifePartners from 7th to 12th before moving on to Victorious Childhood Friends a year after graduation. * The case of this troper is a tough one. The exact words in this case is actually ''childhood rivals''. We met in 2nd grade, got in some silly misunderstandings then hated each other (it's hardly a friendly relationship so to speak), then she changed school 1 year later, never met again til both are young adults. Laughed about it as we were both mature then, from then on it's just like a normal couple, nothing special but yeah, that's a case of Victorious Childhood Rival for ya. ** Sounds like something out of {{Anime}} * This Troper has known her boyfriend since they were five {they're seventeen now}, and neither of us thought the other liked person liked them until I finally worked up enough courage to ask him what he thought of certain girls at our school. Turns out, he'd liked me for years but because we both enacted suspiciously specific denials, neither of us knew. We've been dating for about a month now and are taking things slow because we have all the time in the world. * This Troper was a little {{squick}}ed on returning to his old school after twenty years and discovering just how many of his old school friends had married one another. ** Were you surprised by the specific arrangements? * My best friend and her supposedly platonic male childhood best friend have ''just'' got together. Seven ''years'' of {{UST}}. We threw them a party and whooped and yelled and cheered. They look so damn happy. * When my sister was 7 going to church with my mother Pointed at one of our neighbor's child (a 12 year old boy) and said: "look mom I'm gonna marry him" 9 years latter (my sister was about to be 17) they get married. The best part? my now Brother in law was saying the same exact thing when they where kids going to the church ("Mom I'm gonna marry that girl") Victorious Indeed * This troper's mother has a friend who was this with her husband. It erm... [[DeconstructedTrope it]] [[YourCheatingHeart hasn't]] [[InterruptedSuicide worked]] [[NoAccountingForTaste out]] [[DomesticAbuse well]]. ---Time to go back to the Main/VictoriousChildhoodFriend page, which has always been there for you. ---<<|TroperTales|>> )

VideoGameCaringPotential * In ''BlackAndWhite,'' Sable and several similar characters become normal villagers once they stop being important to the game. The player should, theoretically, be able to keep them alive until the end. ** Even though this troper cannot stand to play that game evilly, he

has ''always'' fed Sable to the creature at the first opportunity. ** @/RiL just got into Black & White 2, and is playing a benevolent earth-mother goddess. The first time she dropped a rock on an enemy platoon, she had a small fit -- the soldiers had ''names!'' They had names and lives and she'd killed them! She had to go and have a liedown... *** ...until military Japan, when the enemies ''just kept coming'', and she eventually lost all qualms about [[VideogameCrueltyPotential siccing her Creature on them or fireballing them to hell]]. * @/{{Dallenson}}'s Race in [[{{spore}} Spore]] Is a Knight archetype. Which would (almost) Be Based around this * That sort of thing happens in ''FinalFantasyTactics'' with Miluda, which is an enemy example. You have to fight her twice and there's no way around it. ** This Troper disagrees. All he ended up feeling for Miluda, and for pretty much all characters he was supposed to feel sorry for, was intense annoyance and disgust at their stupid devotion to HonorBeforeReason. Lady, if you're that huge of a tool to attack me while rejecting perfectly good advice to push off, I'm not entitled to feel bad if and when you snuff it. ** This troper absolutely refuses to let anyone in his party crystallize, even if it means SaveScumming away a few game hours of play. This includes generic [=PCs=] (in fact, he values his generics more than 90% of the unique [=PCs=] in FFT). *** I hear you on that one. This troper's generic ninja pulled my fat out of the fire more times than I can remember. If that game allowed MVP awards the ninja gets the first one. *** I do not know why, I cried when Wiegraf sold his soul. * ''FireEmblem.'' This troper tried to keep everyone alive because the death quotes were just too heartbreaking. It eventually reached a point where it got too depressing to continue... ** This troper goes to extreme lengths to make sure nobody dies, especially since she builds up supports rather quickly. If one of her units ''seriously'' needs healing or is surrounded by enemies, she immediately discards her pre-planned strategy for a rescue/healing attempt. In the easy/normal modes it doesn't affect much, but in Hard mode, her designated rescuer (usually the Jeigan) often ends up needing as much healing as the person he's buying time for. You don't know HOW many times I've restarted a chapter because someone died. *** On the contrary, the latest Fire Emblem on the DS requires you to have 15 or less units to access certain secret Gaiden (extra) missions. The point of this is beyond me, whether it was meant to emphasize using only a few units that will turn out strong or to help out really awful players with some more units. If it is the latter, you really have to suck; this troper can recall getting about 28 different units and having to mercilessly slaughter about 12 units (with one accidental death) to keep under the limit to get to the first one. The kicker was that I was only on chapter six. The chapters aren't necessary, of course, but this Troper stubbornly refuses to replay the game just for the extra chapters. ** This troper often finds someone dies ''directly after'' I got an ALevel Support. The worst offender was probably Lute and Artur from

''Sacred Stones''. ** This editor went through the [[BonusDungeon bonus dungeons]] in ''Sacred Stones'' as soon as they were available. He did this not for the EXP, but to avenge all of the fallen troops throughout the journey. [[EnsembleDarkhorse Lute]] and [[TheMedic Natasha]] ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge shall not have died in vain.]]'' ** This troper never managed to get to the bonus chapters in ''Shadow Dragon'' because of this. He remembers the first time he explained to a friend what ''Fire Emblem'' was, after having been noticed angrily swearing under his breath and turning off a DS in public after a character died. This is particularly ironic since the prologue in ''Shadow Dragon'', with the forced sacrifice, seems clearly designed to tell new players 'it's okay if you lose a few characters'. '''No, ''Fire Emblem''. It is ''not'' okay. ''Not for me.''''' ** This troper not only resets every time any unit is killed, he also recruits everyone he can, regardless of whether he intends to use them on that particular runthrough. The Green NPC allies are faceless enough that he can stand a few casualties, however. * This Troper always tries to keep his Marines alive in ''{{Halo}}.'' Given the AI, that can be kind of frustrating. ** This Troper's brother has a special place in his heart for the Marines voiced by the cast of Firefly. *** Given most weapons, the Marine AI in Halo 3 is terrible. However give them a sniper rifle or rocket launcher, and suddenly they're walking gods of destruction, given the fact they have both infinite ammo and precise aim, they are worth protecting. ** One of the very, very few times this troper has felt any emotion at all for minor videogame characters, was in Halo: Reach. The Package level, on Legendary. On legendary setting, the marines will normally die within a few seconds of engaging the enemy, rarely killing a single one. One heroic Orbital Drop Shock Trooper, however, managed to stay alive and stick with me for the whole first part of the level. After seeing so many marines and ODSTs fall to their immediate deaths, I knew this one of special, and had to be protected. I went so far as to imagine what his backstory was. ** This Troper had a great payoff due to his irresistible NEED to keep the Marines alive. Specifically back in Halo CE. The level Assault on the Control Room. Some explaining must be done here. This Troper likes to improve the odds of survival by giving the Marines good weapons, AKA all the Sniper Rifles and Rocket launchers found on the level were given to the marines. This troper proceeded to ensure that marines were in good strategic places in vehicles. Proceed to this Troper getting a solid EIGHT marines fighting with him. Then a CMOA when the nine of us stormed a building with myself driving a tank, with 4 of those marines perched on the side, including Johnson. Two of whom had sniper rifles, two had rocket launchers. That's a great combination right there, but it doesn't stop. The tank was backed up by a full warthog, driven by a marine with a gunner and a passenger with a Rocket Launcher. Again, combined with the tank that's a pretty damn good arrangement, so what about that last marine? Did he hoof it with nothing but an assault rifle? Certainly not. This Troper went out of his way to go back and bring this brave soldier a Ghost. Covie's never

stood a chance. * In one of this troper's early ''{{Harpoon}}'' games found an Ecuadorian Mirage pilot who took out three Peruvian ships by cannon fire, flying out four times and winning the mission for me, was worthy of a medal. Mind you, this is a game where air wings and ships have a tendency to churn through each other like butter. * This troper very much favours healing allies that will permanently be killed in games when the option is available, even when they are of the [[{{Redshirt}} random, cannon fodder variety.]] (maybe they were even the only permanently-killable allies that could be killed in games I've played!) Revivable, not as much. I specifically remember a time playing WarCraft II in which after barely fending off an attack against the computer, I had only one surviving soldier down to a couple of HitPoints. I instantly thought 'put him in the center of base, get something to heal him'. I still lost :-( * In ''{{Myst}} III: Exile'' after [[spoiler:trapping the villain and retrieving the MacGuffin from him]], the villain actually gets really pathetic and [[spoiler:begs you to release him so he can go look for his family]]. It didn't even occur to @/{{Scooter007}} to just leave him where he was; I just automatically let him go, only to realize later that this was, in fact, the ideal course. ** This troper had the same reaction, although I accidentally confused the controls and took down the wrong force field, meaning he rushed up the stairs and killed me in a rage instead of going off to find his family. * Try ''Monster Rancher''. This troper would sell his pet monster as soon as it reached three years old. The monster's normal lifespan was three and a half in-game years, and if you let the pet monster die, you would be treated with a heartrending funeral event. ** Made worse for me, because i feel sorry for my monster when i sell them. I feel like i'm abandoning them. Makes me feel bad when i need to scold them too. ** That's why this troper freezes and fuses, so the monster still lives on. * This troper feels that way about his flightmates in ''VideoGame/WingCommander.'' With the exception of [[TheScrappy Maniac]]. * @/RedViking became so attached to the squad members in ''XCom'' that he would reload whenever they died. Needless to say, it took awhile to finish the games. * In ''DeusEx'', you can overhear {{Mooks}} having random conversations about the political situation, sport events, or even their love life. This troper finds it hard at times to take down a guard he just heard singing to himself, and is more and more tempted to go for a PacifistRun as a result. ** Deus Ex is one of those rare games that rewards Pacifist runs. There are parts were you will get more skill point rewards for avoiding the guards rather than killing them, and the guy running the armory early on will berate you and refuse to give you more ammo for your pistol if you had a shooting spree in the previous mission. ** This troper trained up on low-tech weapons, crossbows, and chose silent run so he could non-lethally knock out all the nameless guards,

because they weren't ''that'' [[PunchClockVillain committed to the cause]], were they? Cyborgs and [=MIBs=], however, were fair game. *** This other troper notes that a nonlethal takedown of an [=MIB=] prevented them from self-destructing, which meant that you could remain stealthy and steal their equipment. ** This same situation is played out in No-one Lives Forever. The {{Mooks}} can often be heard having interesting or entertaining conversations, and this troper often felt quite sad about having to kill them, given that stealth and non-lethal takedowns were seldom possible. ** It's actually very depressing to play Deus Ex, especially after beating it multiple times. The situation and the Gray Death Plague cast a very dark light on the setting, and any way the player can help those in need is joyous and wonderful. [[@/CrazyRabbits I]] remember the levels in Paris were a notable example of this. I went down through a building to stop genetically-modified "greasels" from murdering a destitute woman's cats, and when I went back up to her to tell her, she profusely thanked me. Later on, when you save the Silhouette members held hostage in an MJ 12 bunker, the young boy, Jacques, gives repeated cries of "Merci!" and "Thank you, sir!" every time you walk near him. Hell, the entire game is filled to the brim with these moments. Giving the homeless child in Battery Park some food. Busting the captured NSF soldier out with you when you escape UNATCO Headquarters. Listening to the two homeless men in the New York hospital banter about the "good old days" with UNATCO. It's enough to bring a tear to your eye. ** Also played with in MaxPayne 2. At one point, you can find two {{mooks}} talking about the TV show the theme park you're in is based on. One even spoils the other. You can even come across one mook playing the piano, beautifully, for another. Of course, the second you see them they try to shoot you. * ''{{Odin Sphere}}'' makes its bad endings so {{Tear Jerker}}y-bad that you just ''have'' to be motivated to get the good one. For this editor, the aftermath of pitting Gwendolyn against Onyx made me cry for hours. (Yes, I support Gwendolyn/Onyx. So sue me.) ** Given that the "good ending" is STILL a tear jerker [[spoiler:(You can't save Mercedes or Velvet's brother, all humans die except Gwen and Oswald, and Cornelius and Velvet have to spend a crazy long time working to end their Pooka Curse]], you can imagine how much worse the bad endings are. * Whilst it is a [[BoringButPractical sensible strategy]] to use Militia as [[RedshirtArmy cannon fodder]] in ''Hearts of Iron'', @/{{Mediiic}} was appalled enough by the horrific casualties racked up that all these divisions were pulled off the line and sent for a permanent vacation guarding beaches. * ''{{Fable}} 2'' allows you to marry and have a son or daughter, which will rapidly mature into an adorable child that calls you "dahdee" or "mum-mee" depending on your gender. ** Your child may run off to try to be a hero his or herself, prompting a gallant rescue from a hobbe cave. You will never feel more wrathful toward hobbes. ** When my wife died and my daughter was taken by child services from

me not noticing one too many announcements, it became hard to face the world of Albion alone again. ** This troper went to great lengths in the orginal fable to obtain a house, woo one of the female trainees at the Hero's Guild and lead her away through the wilderness [[spoiler: so they wouldn't all get slaughtered when the guild was attacked]]. The female trainees have sexier voices than normal residents, so perhaps this was a ''different'' kind of caring, IfYouKnowWhatIMean. ** This troper began actually crying when [[spoiler: that Jerkass Reaver shot Barnum for "comic relief" and was never punished for any of his crimes.]] That absolutely ruined the game for me. I sent another gamer friend an email in stunned disbelief that this was how the game ended. In a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, he responded by telling me that I didn't have to accept the story's ending there since the reader/player is the one in charge of the media. He'd even written up a happier version of the ending for me. *** Kinda glad to see I wasn't the only one bothered by that. I went out of my way to [[spoiler: kill Reaver a few times afterwords.]] ** It's the dog. Housemate who favours the kill 'em all method of videogame completion and me are both incapable of resisting the dog. It makes the ending difficult. * When playing ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'', @/{{Midna}} always makes it a point to immediately use a Pick-Me-Up or Toadstool's "Come Back" should a character fall in battle. Well, until he runs out, but they'll always be alive for the next battle. ** He also inputs the "auto reset" code if [[GameOver his Styler should break]] in ''{{Pokemon}} Ranger''. * This troper grew very, very attached to [[PlayerCharacter her]] father in ''{{Fallout}} 3''--she blames Liam Neeson's exceptional voice acting for making her [[spoiler: unload a few clips of ammo into the door, and cry real life tears when Dad dies at the [[ButThouMust hands evil of overlord mooks]]]]. ** This troper found it quite hard to play a bad guy in Fallout and Fallout 2. I felt so cruel as I methodically crushed nascent cultures who survived a civilisation-destroying nuclear war only to run into the DarkMessiah. ** How can you even mention Fallout without thinking about the always loyal Dogmeat? Nearly every player reloads if he dies during a fight. ** I loved that dog, definitely helps with mutants. However, it was very annoying that whenever I threw a '''grenade''', he would still go after the enemy since I targeted him and he'd inevitably get massive damage for it. That's when I felt like he deserved to get hurt. Now he's trapped under vault 101 due to that character glitch and I got really sad about it. ** In Fallout 3, this troper had just saved Big Town, and promised to protect them the next time there was an attack. I assumed there would be a prompt for when that happens, and I left to do other things. I came back, to find super mutants on the bridge and dead villagers in the square. I thought maybe they were hiding when I only found three outside, but then I entered the eerily quiet houses to find the bodies of every townsperson dead [[spoiler: besides /redd]]. I felt like I let them down, almost to the point of tears.

** This troper fully seconds the original poster's attachment to the PC's father. [[spoiler:I even reacted very similarly -- I shouted '''"NO!!"'' at the top of my lungs as he collapsed, and got thirty or forty rads trying to shoot or crush open the door to save him...and failed, of course. My roommate wondered what the hell was going on.]] ** This troper distinctly recalls, at one point, blundering straight into a den full of raiders in Fallout 3... and then watching her faithful canine follower die under a hail of bullets because she couldn't get to him fast enough. Cue the (quite ''literal'') RoaringRampageOfRevenge. To quote [[BattlestarGalactica President Roslin]]: ''"I'M COMING FOR ALL OF YOU!"'' ** There was this one NPC in Fallout3, a Treasure Hunter. I can't really remember her name. I fought along side her once, trying to get The Declaration of Independence. I found out on an internet guide that after the mission is over, she's supposed to spawn in the ghoul town. Well, I ran into her near Rivet City, going into the subway. I decide to follow her in, but lost sight of her. I find the place crawling with Raiders, and more or less clean the place out, it was hard to tell because of how dark it was. So then I decide that she must have been able to take care of herself and leave. So I go back to The Underworld and wait for her to show up and meet Charon, my ghoul man servant. And I kept waiting. And waiting. And then I realized that she wasn't coming, and there wasn't anything I could do to bring her back. ** This Troper, upon hearing kindly old Agatha's comment about Raiders getting close to her house, opened up the GECK, marked her as unkillable, gave her a overpowered gun with unlimited ammo, and spammed friendly Sentry Bot guards all round her house. Then I gave her a Robobrain butler in case she got lonely! :3 *** Agatha in general. How can you ''not'' give that sweet old lady the last violin in the world? ''And'' it leads to CrowningMusicOfAwesome when she gives you the frequency to her radio station. Post-apocalyptic Brahms FTW! * This troper refused to kill anyone in ''Thief: Deadly Shadows''. But when an enforcer dared attack the ''lovable drunken city watchman,'' it was time to break the rule. ** Ditto. This troper played the whole series refusing to kill human opponents, but as soon as those bastards showed up she instantly became a backstab master. Granted, the fact that she found them [[NightmareFuel utterly terrifying]] was a big motivator, too. * This troper simply ''adored'' his soldiers in ''ValkyriaChronicles''. With their personal bios and unique potentials, its very easy to create personalities for each of your troops, and its incredibly tragic and heartbreaking if any of them dies. I mean, what other game lets you control a squad with [[SkiesOfArcadia two sky pirates, a medic whose name everybody seems to forget]], a [[SociopathicSoldier creepy sadist]], an obviously lesbian engineer who [[HoYay has an obvious crush on one of the main characters]], a bisexual scout, and so much more... * In ''Patapon'', this troper would rarely allow his Patapon to perish in battle. * In ''FinalFantasyX'' you have the option of bringing Wakka back to the Blitzball team late in the game. @/SerenYGogledd did just that and

brought him into the final of a tournament (even though he was still at a ridiculously low level), just because he'd never won one before. ** This troper, after he lost the first Blitzball game on one run, was determined to win it on his next run. Seeing the crowd cheering for Wakka, and the inspirational Blitzers music that plays during the game; I ''wanted'' Wakka to experience victory dammit. The trophy they get is just icing on the cake. *** You too? * I refuse to kill any dogs in ''MetalGearSolid 3'', and was sad when I thought I had to at one point. Guards? [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Fair game]]. ** This Troper even don't want to kill the guards,no matter if they are shooting or not.Just CQC them or tranq them,and everything is fine.And - the last boss fight [[spoiler:against the boss,the sequence where she lays on the ground and you have to shoot her - I just couldn't.Snake had to do it automatically]]. *** This Troper also hates killing off the guards, though it may have something to with his perfectionism. That, and if you pile up a small group of FROGs (most easily done in South America), their snores are both hilarious and heartwarming. * This troper always makes a point of training all the characters in every RPG he plays, and of trying to make sure they all get as much screen time as possible. I personally hate seeing any of the characters get neglected, and I don't give a rat's behind about whether one character is more "useful" than the others-they're all risking their lives to save the world, so they all deserve respect! Besides, any schmuck can blow through an RPG using just their "ATeam", but saving the day with the likes of Quina, Umaro or Cait Sith is something special. ** Isn't Quina something of a GameBreaker if he/she/it masters Blue magic? *** In this troper's experience, s/he becomes a very useful character, but not necessarily a {{Game Breaker}}. Then again, perhaps I'm not the best example, since some of the spells I've seen hyped as Quina's most useful (Magic Hammer, Night, Angel's Snack, Bad Breath, Limit Glove), I either never got much mileage out of or otherwise didn't use very often, except for one or two [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moments of Awesome]] when I took out Hades or the Antlion with Limit Glove after they'd reduced Quina's HP to 1. Ironically, a couple of the spells most people would dismiss as worthless (LV-3 Defenseless, LV-5 Death, Pumpkin Head, even Mustard Bomb, believe it or not) have come in handy for me much more than you might otherwise expect. * @/{{Cameoflage}} hates to knock over turrets in ''{{Portal}}'' (and felt ''horrible'' the time she stuck one through a fizzer, which [[DisintegratorRay disintegrated]] it instead of merely 'knocking it out'); whenever possible, she turns them to face the wall or bypasses them entirely, although sometimes she slips up if suddenly confronted with one, or just trips over it due to the slight clumsiness of navigating via first-person camera (and then subsequently feels bad). They're just so cute; they're like children. Children who want to shoot enough holes in you to rival a piece of Swiss cheese, admittedly, but they don't seem to know any better. Also, there's a

room in the 'backstage' area where you run into one that seems to be broken -- its targeting laser blinks in and out rather than being steady like the others', and it can't shoot you -- and I seriously pitied the poor thing. ** [[@/CoyoticEvil I]] felt worse about the Curiosity Core, having to incinerate it and hear it say ''Do you smell something burning?'' then screech. ** I felt like it was DeathByIrony. "Ooh, what's in the.." * screams* Still, I loved the blinking turret, and took pains to leave it alone. I would have taken it with me if I could. * Due to the fact that ''{{Spore}}'' is incredibly personalized, @/{{Cliche}} tends to develop emotional connections with his creatures and coming up with elaborate backstories for them. One moment fitting this trope occurred in the Space stage with another empire. Since I created a creature with no limbs and thus imagined how it envied and despised the legged for their evolutionary advantage, encountering another slug creature in Space meant that I was willing to do anything to maintain a good relationship (especially after allying with the Grox), including helping terraform their planet and destroying their rival civilization. The moment I saw that said empire was coming to help me defeat its central city was a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming. ** This troper, while indulging in a bit of VideogameCrueltyPotential, definitely enjoys the feeling you get when you help out a struggling empire or drop a monolith on a tribal civilization. Then there's the caring potential of terraforming and ecology balancing. Some of the levels in the ''Galactic Adventures'' expansion pack, though, make you feel like a hero (of the [[BigDamnHeroes big damn]] variety or otherwise). Yes, it's a scripted sequence, but can you honestly tell me that freeing an enslaved race or saving a little girl from monsters don't feel at least a little gratifying? ** My friend has ''Spore'' on his comp. He let me and my buddies create our own unique planet/campaign. When it was my turn, I ended up with a planet full of Ridiculously Cute Critters, to which some of my friend scoffed at me because I took more of a pacifist route--I made my creature a herbivore and talked almost all the neighboring creatures into joining my cause. Watching my little orange guinea-pigesque critter waddle around with chubby purple fish with wings and kitty-duck-pig-whatsit with elf ears and webbed feet was The Cutest Thing Ever. ** This troper was once playing Spore at a friend's house. At the creature stage, her race was of omnivorous, lime-green animals that looked like a combination of a dinosaur and a human. She/her creature befriended "David", who was basically a tick with rhino feet. Needless to say, his entire race was soon extinct except for himself, being completely useless, though tiny and extremely adorable. After protecting and otherwise caring for him for an hour or so, he was killed an eaten by another creature for no real reason. Cue Roaring Rampage of Revenge, in which I immediately changed my formerly goofylooking, peaceful creature into a dragon-ish monster and destroyed that entire species to avenge David's death. Beware the nice ones, indeed. Overreacting is fun. ** While it is very enjoyable in Spore to go on a species-extincting

rampage in creature stage, I often, no matter what creature I am playing as, befriend another species (especially if they are the Doltasaur)or rogues. I often become very attached to them and if one of them are killed in battle, woe upon their killers... ** Same troper, here. Now, admit it, Spore players, I bet you do this too. You're walking by, and see some hilariously stupid-looking species being completely slaughtered by a Rogue. They're panicked and running around instead of trying to fight back. So, you have your tiny little creature charge at it and attack, sometimes getting killed just as easily as the others, or perhaps winning with lots of injuries. Doesn't matter whether you want one in your pack or not, you want to protect them. Even if said tiny little creature is a carnivore that wiped out several other species' before. * This troper tries to come up with a way to save as many scientists and guards in ''HalfLife'' from death as possible. ** "Open fire, Mr Freeman!" And he did. He killed two Marines. By himself. I made damn sure he survived. *** As much as I help guards and scientists in the games, I also do my best to help my fellow grunts from dying in ''Opposing Force''. And as it is common with this, I usually start [[SaveScumming Save Scumming]]. * This troper is ashamed there's no mention of ''HalfLife 2'' here. Another Troper on [[JustBugsMe/HalfLife2 another page]] said it well, and I'm paraphrasing here: "(After Alyx gets scared by the Stalker) why wasn't there a 'Give Alyx a damn hug, you bastard!' button anywhere?" ** Seconded. Valve's writing staff did such a godly job with [[LaResistance the Resistance characters]] that you seriously get attached to Alyx, Eli and even Dr. Kleiner. And god forbid a resistance fighter dies right after shouting 'Look out, Freeman!' Cue teary restart. ** Ditto. It was hard since the AI can be really stupid. At one point during a roof-top fire-fight, I had to barricade them behind a door so that they won't follow me and die. ** This Troper developed a special attachment to a unique NPC you come across in Anticitizen One; [[http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/5241/20090801140029rebelstun.jpg this female medic]] can always be found under a bridge treating a wounded man, and soon catches up to join your squad after her patient dies. On one playthrough she stuck with me for several maps, surviving scores of engagements with Combine soldiers, headcrabs and zombies. She even survived the climactic firefight at the generator plaza. I felt sad when I had to leave her behind to go underground. :( ** This troper had two female resistance fighters accompany him to help Barney survive the snipers, and he made damn sure nothing happened to them. On the way there, he helped protect the wounded man in the flooded basement from zombies, and when it came to the rooftop, he took several bullets for them. Not to mention in HL:S, when his Video Game Caring Potential reached a point where he had gathered an entourage of two guards and three scientists, who, sadly, had to be left behind to move on. * ''Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel'' promotes the arming and

advancement of a squad of inseperable sociopaths. Together, the six squaddies do more to advance the cause of the Brotherhood than any other. Yes, I reloaded each time even one got killed. Most favoured was the Deathclaw named [[{{Team Mom}} Mother]], who carried everyone's ammo and spare weapons. ''"Gee, thanks Ma!"'' * ''Soulbringer'' has two battles between Bloodkin and an army of zombies or vampires ''and'' zombies. Even disregarding the fact that you lose XP for each one who falls, I hate having Bloodkin die. This goes triple for the rear guard who suddenly gets ambushed by three vampires in Tortalaran, who I accidentally killed once going the quick route (Magma spells kill things quickly...and in a large area). As well, I know by now that [[spoiler:Lord Bane is toast, no matter what]]...but I still feel guilty each time. ** Subversion in the same game: after Al-Kadath takes over Madrigal, he promises to kill six townsfolk for every one of his soldiers harmed. Thing is...can he do that without any of his soldiers left alive? * EvilLaugh* * ''Punisher'' for XBox. Feels nice to let -some- of the mooks live, just knocking them out. * This troper can't be the only one who, in an RTS like ''{{Starcraft}}'', tends to act as though those are actual little people and tries not to sacrifice them when unnecessary (exceptions are made for [[BugWar the Zerg]]). If it's a choice between a [[ZergRush mass attack]] of a couple dozen [[RedshirtArmy Marines]] that'll be over in five minutes and leave half of 'em dead, or a halfhour of meticulously leapfrogging in Siege Tanks and air cover that goes off without a casualty - well, let me consult my Factories. ** Nope, you aren't. As far back as the original CommandAndConquer, even playing as Nod, I took an insane amount of care to insure as few as possible of my men died. That meant sending excessively wounded infantry to some safe corner of the base to wait out the rest of the battle. It was kind of a mild roleplaying thing; half-unconsciously imagining myself as the general who gains a reputation as being AFatherToHisMen, and who wins great victories without losing a single soldier under his command. * Although they really consist of one-paragraph descriptions and voice sets, this troper has been known to restart missions over the fate of teammates in ''MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries''. (Except for Shredder. [[TheScrappy Nobody likes Shredder]].) You also occasionally get [[KarmaMeter nobility points]] for saving people outside your company who are technically on your side, in addition to the fact that [[BigDamnHeroes those moments]] [[GoodFeelsGood just plain feel good]]. * How the heck isn't ''{{Myth}}'' mentioned here? This usually pretty cold-blooded editor had a hard time stomaching any losses his unit suffered throughout the game. * This troper would like to refer you to the Majora's Mask story over at [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HeartwarmingMoment/VideoGames Crowning Moment of Heartwarming-Video Games.]] * @/{{Gattsuru}} played through the PC version of ''[[MirrorsEdge Mirror's Edge]]'' only using melee disarms and a few punches on police

and PMC troops. Kicking people off of roofs wasn't acceptable. * [[CharacterTiers Tiers]], [[ElementalRockPaperScissors types]], and [[GoddamnedBats bats]] be damned: this troper never, ''ever'' removes his starter from his {{Pokemon}} party. From Squirtle and Cyndaquil to Torchic and Chimchar, I just can''not'' bear to put the one 'mon that has been with me the entire journey into the cold, hard prison of the PC box. If possible, I'll even make sure they get the final blow on the Champion's final Pokemon -- whether or not it's a type disadvantage. I'm still irrationally proud of my Infernape, who [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome one-shotted Cynthia's Lucario with a critical-hitting Flamethrower at just the right time]]. ** I do the same thing, though its actually a combination of what you said and the fact that I have a tendency to only train my starter, so I have one ridiculously powerful Pokemon and five that I only have for special moves like fly and cut. ** I do much the same. Despite my current team's Dark theme, Prinplup never goes in the box. ** I do ''almost'' the same. The starter never leaves the party until it reaches the Hall of Fame. Then it takes a well-deserved break, retiring in the comfort of a cushy box along with it's fellow Famers. Only occasionally do they pull a Rocky and fight a couple more Frontier battles, or challenge that generation's superboss. ** With each generation, I generally follow "The Ash Pattern" the first time through: I get all three starters, the resident electric 'mon, the resident bird, and another chosen for type coverage. It's a well-balanced team. ''However'', since I ''have'' "Caught 'em all", I plan to raise at least one example of each top evolution, plus a few lower evolutions that have an interesting type combo that changes upon evolution. I also keep an example of the earlier evolutions, but they live on the Ranch (no sense in making them wait around on the PC). Further, when the team I've selected for this playthrough gains the 8th badge, I ''could'' swap in my team from an earlier game, whose levels are much higher, for the Elite Four, but I don't. Why? Because dammit, the game team ''deserves'' their own shot at the championship. Explains why I have no level 100s. I ''do'' have a very detailed spreadsheet tracking everyone's levels, so that when I get my whole menagerie above certain levels, ''then'' I can do the swap-in thing. But ''everybody's'' going to get a Champion Ribbon (even [[JokeCharacter my Luvdisc]]) at least once in their career. *** I ''am'' doing a SelfImposedChallenge of playing Platinum raising a Semi-Legendary team (Dratini, Bagon, Gible, Larvitar, Beldum, plus a Spiritomb). [[AnIcePerson Candice]] is going to be...''[[ThatOneBoss interesting]]''. ** Every single starter [[@/{{Valex}} I've]] had has a Hall of Fame ribbon. Removing them from my party would be like hereticism to me. *** If @/{{Sharysa}} catches her team members early on, she's going to stick with them to the bitter end even when she catches legendaries. She also has a habit of level-grinding until her team is all the same level (especially before boss battles), and then sorting them out according to how much experience points they need for the next level. But no matter which game she's in, she MUST HAVE A PIDGEY AND A RATTATA. Pidgey starts out so adorable and cute in the beginning, and

then it turns into this badass [[BuffySpeak eagle-type-thing]] that can fly me anywhere. Maybe it's because of her soft spot for birds (parakeets sound an awful lot like Pidgey), maybe it's because it takes Pidgeotto the longest to turn into Pidgeot at Lvl 36 when the rest of her team has long since reached their final evolution, but damn if she doesn't feel warm and fuzzy when Pigeotto FINALLY evolves. She will keep those two in reserve as the BigDamnHeroes in case the rest of her team can't hold up (Lance, I'm looking at you), and panics whenever any of her team gets poisoned. She also has a habit of imagining whichever Fire-type she has as [[BodyguardCrush the most protective]] [[HotBlooded and temperamental]] member of her team. ...In a completely platonic way. [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat But if others DO feel otherwise, she understands.]] *** @/{{Lupine_Volt}} had this with his HG team. When I was walking, I turn to my Gloom, and it suddenly just hugs my legs. Immediatly, in the next battle, she was KO'd. My Typhlosion promptly incinerated the bastard who did that. And, before I faced the elite four, I took out every member of my team and talked to them. Espeon, Ampharos, Politoad, Bellosum and Honchkrow all gave battle cries. Typhlosion just turned to me and nodded. At which point, I kicked Lances ass. Now, they're going to enjoy a nice retirement on the Pokemon ranch with all of my other champion teams from R/S/E/FR/LG/D/Plt. **** This [[Tropers/{{Cybele}} one]] had a similar experience in [=SoulSilver=]. Lucario nods, Kadabra has a gaze of determination, Misdreavus, Raikou, and Mew let out battlecries. My Milotic decides to give me a hug of encouragment! D'aawww. ** Back when this troper originally bought Gold, she only ever trained her starter as she didn't really care about a balanced team. However, she used that ''one'' pokemon, a Typlosion, to beat the entire Elite Four on its own. Then, when she bought [=HeartGold=], despite her more balanced team and her not-as-overtrained Typlosion, she decided to repeat that feat, in memory of the original, and succeeded. ** When This Troper caught a Magikarp in order to evolve it to a Gyarados, not having the patience required, I usually berated my Magikarp for being pathetically weak. When the Magikarp finally evolved. I felt like a total jerk, and promised myself that this wouldn't happen again and granted Gyarados a permanent place in my team, with my trusty [[TurtlePower Grotle.]] Weeks later when this troper saw what [[CompleteMonster Team Galaxy]] did to the Magikarps in lake Victory... [[OhCrap It wasn't pretty]]... for Team Galaxy. I felt vindictive pleasure in thinking about their faces of terror when I unleashed my now [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill overleveled]] [[WhosLaughingNow Gyarados]] to [[OneHitKill Hyper Beam]] their pathetic bunch. Nobody messes with the Magikarps. NOBODY!! ** The Walking Pokemon in [=HeartGold=] and [=SoulSilver=] simply ''melted'' [[@/LordKelvin This Trainer's]] heart. EV training, breeding for nature and moves, all well and dandy, but when I checked on my Ampharos's status one day, she ''spontaneously hugged me'', and has since then earned a permanent place on my team. And then to see the same thing from my Garchomp (yes, [[GameBreaker that]] one)... ** When I first caught [[OlympusMons Giratina]] in ''Platinum'', I thought it was a pretty effing scary-looking Pokemon and was ready to

stuff it in the PC box. But then I realized that it was useful for a lot of things. I found myself using it a lot, to the point it was able to get the Footprint ribbon at max happiness. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming "~Name~...is a wonderful human and Trainer..." I actually teared up when I saw that]]. All Giratina needed...was a friend. "Chrona" (my Giratina's nickname), you'll always have a slot in my active team =D *** I had a similar experience with my Darkrai, "Krai". At first, it ''absolutely hated me'', but it was a cool Pokemon, so I used it a lot. One day, in Heart Gold, it ''hugged me''. It now has a permanent place in my main team, and I'm working on getting all five Shiny Leaves for it. Despite all the horrible stuff that Darkrai goes through, it turns out that the way to get to its heart is to be ''nice'' to it! *** (^^)/\(^^) This tropette has really taken a shine to Dark and Ghost Pokemon. Mismagius, Darkrai, Gengar, Froslass, Absol, and Houndoom all make their way into my party at some point. Once they reach Lv.100 and get a champion's ribbon, they chill in a pc box put aside just for them. <3 ** When Bebe gave this troper that Eevee in her copy of ''Pokemon Pearl'', it was quite low-leveled compared to the rest of my team and had a hard time keeping up. I know multiple people who put it in the box immediately after. But I kept it and put every ounce of my being into training it and making it happy. The Umbreon it eventually evolved into became a permanent part of my team and was one of my Pearl Pokemon I trading over to my new copy of Platinum before letting my brother delete the file. With it was my original starter, the Mismagius who curb-stomped more than one Elite Four member, and the Yanma that saved me a humiliating Gym Leader-delivered defeat. ** Oh, Pokemon. I shall always love my Pokemon, from the Wartortle I didn't want to evolve as I hated Blastoise, to the Shaymin who somehow hugged me. In each game, I have a core team of 6 Pokemon, and some others on the side (maybe even other teams). When I found out that, not only had my copy of Crystal died, but ''I couldn't transfer my Red Mons onto Sapphire'', I cried. But upon getting Heart Gold, something snapped. I brought back my main five from Crystal (Meganium, Ampharos, Gyarados, Fearow, Ho-Oh) and got them some new friends. I then ressurected my old teams. All I'm missing from all of my old teams is my Red Mew, who I am ''determined'' to ressurect. And you know what the best bit of my entire Heart Gold game was? Getting my cousin to give me a Squirtle egg, which hatched ''into a shiny''. Yes, my beloved first Pokemon, the one that kicked Brock's ass and who never gave up on his teammates, was now ''shiny''. The runner-up would be getting back Killer the Swampert. FIRST POKEMON I EVER GOT TO LEVEL ONE HUNDRED, and I got him ''back''. * This Troper played ''MetroidPrime 3''. There's a part where you need to get twelve bomber squad guys or whatever through a heavily guarded area. You only need to get four to the end to continue, but I always feel like I've failed somehow if even one of them dies. The fact that there is this creepy alarm sound when they die makes it border on NightmareFuel as well. ** NightmareFuel ? In a Metroid Prime game? Nawwwwww...

* ''Chrome Hounds''; Sniper campaign, last mission. When Sergeant Jayrus Cole was gunned down, and once Cerberus was under the arc of my sniper cannons, I jumped off the cliff, basically destroying my chassis in the process, in order to bring him back into machine gun range. You don't kill the best character in the game and get to live for more than 60 seconds after that. * @/{{Indefatigable}} gets attached to and sometimes overprotective of pets and hireable sidekicks in games. This got out of hand with ''DiabloII'', which inspired her to write HoYay fanfic about her necromancer and the mercenary he picked up in Lut Gholein. * This troper actually found himself keeping careful track of the number of Tau troops who perished during the DawnOfWar [[ExpansionPack Dark Crusade]] campaign, and trying to plot tactics which minimise the number of living beings becoming ex-living beings on his side of the map. Hence his current technique being heavy on [[AttackDrone drones]]; even more weirdly, it sometimes works to send ''nothing but drones'' on attacks because their vehicle status makes them smallarms resistant. Having 50 gun drones pumping fire into the enemy's command centre? Does LOTS of damage. * @/AceofScarabs has never released any of his special team {{Pokemon}} - the ones that served him in Story Mode or even as testers for his experimental movesets get permanent places of honor in his storage. They even get their chances to shine in exhibition (not serious) matches with other players! He also "reincarnates" prized pokemon from his original Gen1-to-Gen2 save data, by having many of his new crew inherit their names (say hi to my beloved Ninetails Carla from Johto, reborn with a new move!). * @/{{Fighteer}} actually got seriously pissed at his wife when she took his favorite ''[[TheSims Sims 2]]'' couple and had them get caught cheating on each other. It took me over a game week to fix their relationship, and then she ''did it again''. I then told her that she had to use her own neighborhood from now on. ** This Troper (That Troper although I [[DidNotDoTheResearch didn't think it was an actual page/joke/whatever]]) has a sadistic side, but gets too close to her sims. And is a Cheat addict. Therefore, ''everything is done for her sims''. They're never hungry, tired, poor, bored, whatever - they can go do what they like - the only things she won't allow is going out anywhere (as it saves the game) and she'll let them be like this as long as she can do what she likes with them. They all end up happy in the end. ** In TheSims3, @/JET73L ran himself ragged keeping his (as yet, only) main Sim's motives up, making sure not to let anything serious happen and practically {{Munchkin}}ning to keep her skills and "feats" to where it most efficiently gets her good food and keeps things unbroken as much as possible, even buying extra Fiction instead of just dumping a load of computer gaming time into the schedule as would be easier. After months of wooing a Townie that the sim had gotten a crush on, it turned out she (one of the firefighters) was merely some sort of player, in it for the food and lulz and merely dating my sim since most others were asleep after work ended. After getting the long-term motives and Aspirations straightened out, I prepared to (indirectly, [[TheMccoy to keep my sim from feeling any guilt]] even though

[[TheKirk I]] [[TheSpock know it's a ridiculous idea]]) ''[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential make that NPC miserable]]''. * @/{{Night}} always orders all his wingmen, and the support ship, to jump out before he jumps out himself in ''FreeSpace'' and ''FreeSpace 2''. This has occasionally killed him when the enemy, deprived of targets, comes to get him instead, but he hasn't stopped yet. ** Now that's leadership. *** I thought I was the only one! Mind you, if one wingman is disabled, and he ''just won't call for support'' despite me calling in a support ship and hanging about meaningfully in front of him after being resupplied, well, ''that guy really deserves what he gets''. [[spoiler:I jumped out without recalling the support ship so he could call it when he felt like it. Do I look like a monster to you?]] ** This troper goes one step farther. If he ever hears one of his wingmen start sparking with electricity (when the hull is 29% or lower damage), he'll order them to leave, even if the mission has a while to go still. He can't just stand by and let his people get killed! * Despite it not having any real purpose outside of sweetening a girl (or guy) up for a kiss, @/{{Skazka}} always hands out flowers and chocolate to students I meet when playing ''{{Bully}}''. I'm also extremely reluctant to taunt after a fight. * Whenever @/EddieVanHelsing plays a ''{{Disgaea}}'' game, he creates a red mage and names it after his wife because she thinks they look cute in their little maid outfits. When fighting, he usually has other characters protect her while she burninates the enemies. * @/{{Cybele}} tends to get rather attached to her generic units in [=SRPGs=] like ''{{Disgaea}}'', ''FinalFantasyTacticsA2'', etc. Disgaea's particularly great because I can name my units. I give them a name (if the game allows renaming), an age, and personal bio (friend of another unit, sister, etc). I make damn sure that everyone on the field survives, if someone dies I get quite sad and make sure the rest of the team lays the smackdown on the enemy in the name of the fallen unit. ^_^; Is this odd? ** This troper has done the same for his generic units in FinalFantasyTacticsA2. He even has all their information in a Word file. *** This troper does the same thing in FinalFantasyTacticsA2, including writing bios about generic units, making up stories and things about them... xD;; * This troper, when playing ''AssassinsCreed'', keeps the sound on and always, always drops whatever she's doing if she even * thinks* she hears a civilian pleading for help. She let the soldiers kill her once when she failed to save someone so she could try it again. * This troper once spent an hour mourning gnolls that he killed in ''BaldursGate: Dark Alliance'', just because he had killed them with magic as opposed to gnollish honorable combat. Mind you, this is after the troper had read about the life-style of gnolls, and found them to be abusive, lazy, cannibalistic monsters who worship lunar murder gods and frequently disease their own slaves just for teh lolz. ''But they made little whimpering sounds when they died''...poor doggy people... * The native animals trapped in Tourian at the end of ''Super Metroid''. You are not a true player unless you take thirty seconds to

haul yourself down through the shaft, blow out the wall trapping the animals, then watch as one of them pauses to look longingly at you before fleeing...no one gets left behind! ** Well, yeah. Just because you're a badass bounty hunter, doesn't mean you should be heartless. "I am Samus Aran! [[TransformersAnimated I am...a hero!]]" ** [[spoiler: They [[KarmicJackpot return the favor]] in Metroid Fusion.]] Aaw. Also, the first playthrough of Super Metroid usually invokes [[MamaBear Mama Bear/Papa Wolf]] rage in both Samus and the player. * Probably not the best game to be a nice guy on, but GTA 4 is good especially in the regards of destroying harmful criminal organisations and not going on killing sprees. People look surprised at me when I play GTA and don't embark on random slaughter and only kill those who are directly attacking me such as Police and gangsters. * In any game with RelationshipValues (or anything similar), @/AirshipCanon will go out of his way to see to it that if a [[VictoriousChildhoodFriend childhood friend can be victorious]] she/he will be, rather than the saddening case of [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend unluckiness]]. [[spoiler: All bets are off if its HoYay though, especially, if it's falsely founded HoYay, like [[FireEmblem Ike/Soren]] or [[TalesOfSymphonia Lloyd/Genis]].]] ** The one exception: [[FireEmblem Celice/Yuria]]. On the other hand, the second generation all grew up in the same orphanage, so no one's really unlucky. And Yuria's just so cute and helpful (Really? Make that NintendoHard FinalBoss easy? DO IT!)... and well she deserves to be loved and if the only who can is [[TheHero Celice]] he'll be hers-even if [[JustFriends he doesn't see her that way]] and [[BrotherSisterIncest/FireEmblem the little fact that they are halfsiblings.]] * Despite the fact that it's unecessary to keeping their RelationshipValues high, this troper makes sure to give her husband/child in ''HarvestMoon'' games their favorite food at least once a day, just because it makes her happy to see them so happy and have them tell her how much they love her. * In TheSims2, @/{{Lullabee}} has a family of Sims she'll never allow to age or die. They're just so sweet! There's a [[ChasteHero chaste]] GeniusDitz Knowledge Sim, who [[MisterSeahorse gave birth]] to an UglyCute alien girl who hugs him every day when he gets home from work. He has a [[HeterosexualLifePartners Heterosexual Life Partner]] who's basically a ChivalrousPervert, is [[HoYay constantly hugging and tickling the first Sim]] and shares his [[ManChild habit of playing pretend in the bath tub]], and seems to [[HonoraryUncle do half the work of raising the alien kid]]. The third roommate's a [[HotLibrarian gorgeous businesswoman]] who earns half the household's money and has currently got the ChivalrousPervert madly in love with her while she's a little cross with him... I've downloaded ''tons'' of [[GameMod custom content]] just because this one Sim household would enjoy it. And I'm not quite sure what I'll do when one of them gets around to getting married, because I don't want to split them up! ** This troper realizes now that creating a spitting image of myself, creating her/my ideal family and then spreading them across the

neighborhood was a huge mistake. Damnit, I don't want to die! Nor do I want my children to fail school or get in a bad relationship or have trouble with their kids or... Oh, God, I need help. ** @/JET73L found in, of all things, TheSims 3. When you have a sim that ''wants'' to go through the exact life you once hoped to have, forgoing riches for happiness, with no more prompting than three starting traits, it gets ''hard'' to make another family (at least in the same neighborhood, while she grows old and dies without your presence), let alone KillEmAll. This Troper worries about what will happen once even Epic Lifespan runs out, since he [[WhoWantsToLiveForever didn't have the heart to turn off aging completely]]. * Silent Storm and expansion Sentinels. You get a squad of six commandoes in the beginning and keep them throughout the game. This troper could have sworn each man and woman in the squad had their own personality by the end of the game! * A recent quest in {{Runescape}} forced you to fight an NPC with whom you had been fostering a friendship for three or so quests beforehand. @/LittleBeast searched as hard as he could to find some other way to continue, and when he failed to, he made sure to use a blunt weapon to fight her with. * It doesn't matter if most of the time they're [[ArtificialStupidity too stupid]] to keep themselves alive. Whenever this troper plays ''{{Creatures}}'', she will ALWAYS try to keep her Creatures as happy and healthy as they can be, even if she has to Hand-feed them. Creatures too deformed to live properly, she usually euthenizes as humanely as possible. She can't stand to see the little dudes suffer... * This troper kept resetting her console when she was playing FinalFantasyIX so she could save all of the Burmecian/Cleyran civilians. She couldn't stand seeing those poor little rat kids die, and the cute things they say when you meet them later on is so damn worth it. * This troper is absolutely crushed when soldiers (not units!) die in Company of Heroes. Their so emotive and life-like that they cease to become cannon fodder to my eyes and become like real men that I have to keep alive. I couldn't believe it the first time I heard them crying out in pain over the radio when they died. It was so lifelike. I always do my absolute best to keep squads alive and well. * This troper gives backstory to all of her animals on ZooTycoon 2, (well the predators anyway) even when she's just setting up a mad house to use VideoGameCrueltyPotential. * This troper avoids needless killing in games that allow it, such as Grand Theft Auto. He often ends up thinking of them as real people even if they're virtual. Even when the police are after him, he usually just incapacitates with nonlethal shots(as far as he knows) or tries to run away. Criminals and bad guys are full game, however. * @/{{Caswin}} had an interesting experience with ''CommandAndConquer''. In the final mission of the GDI campaign, the easiest way to win is to take over enemy silos as they fill up with resources, sell them, and wait for them to be rebuilt. Each iteration produces another 150 credits and one all-but-defenseless Technician.

Having developed a soft spot for them over the course of the game, they were all moved to a little "Technician Colony" behind the main base. I've done this twice. ''Both times'', at some point during the battle, the computer has responded by building a Flame Tank, ignoring anything tactically worthwhile, and ''massacring the technicians''. * During my first playthrough of {{Iji}}, this troper went the One Woman Army route, slaughtering everything in sight. Then I started finding logs made by a rookie Tasen, mainly worrying about how her girlfriend is doing (who's somewhere else on the sight.) When I got to Sector 8 and [[spoiler: Iosa the Invincible destroyed the last of the Tasen]], I found the body of the one who was writing the logs and found the last one detailing how distraught she was that her girlfriend was killed, and that '''I''' was the one who killed her. After finding out which Tasen was said girlfriend and that if you spare her, [[spoiler: the two of them manage to escape the Tasen genocide]], I've always made a point to spare her on every playthrough, even on ones where I'm still killing everything in sight. * In ''TraumaCenter'', if the patient is a little girl, the [[spoiler:dog]] in ''New Blood'', or [[spoiler:Derek Stiles]] in ''Second Opinion'', @/TsundeRay becomes very scared to fail, intentional or otherwise. * This troper's mother once created a funny map on HeroesOfMightAndMagic which contained the immortal line "They're just bits of code in a game but they do have feelings". This line always haunts this troper if she is being cruel to video game characters, making her do the complete opposite. * When there's a defenseless person that you need to protect in a game, even if protecting them wouldn't really count as an EscortMission, I sometimes will go out of my way not only to prevent them from being killed, but prevent them from being hit at all, even when nothing bad comes out of them being hit. * This troper tries his damn best to keep his units up and kicking in ''FinalFantasyTacticsA2''. Sure, no one actually dies in battle, but the fact that most of your units feel bad for being KO'd just tugs my strings a little. This troper is very fond of his level 99 hume Hunter, and this following line gets to him every time (paraphrased): ---> '''Hunter''': "If only I had more strength. Sorry to let you down..." ** And let's not forget how Grias often SCOLD you for letting them get knocked out! Aargh.. (also paraphrased) ---> '''Gria''': "A commander should take better care of his troops, no?" * Sometimes, when I'm bored, I turn Super Smash Bros Brawl on and set 4 CPUs up, but when set them up for a eternal match, I couldn't keep them in it, so, I decided to set it to 99 minutes like I usually do, so this is sort of a subversion, as they still fight, but I give them 99 minutes, and it's not eternal. * This troper plays AgeOfMythology with one simple rule: Attacking civilians is wrong. She will let enemy peasants mine gold from her mine or fish in the waters off her territory, but if an enemy warship comes after one of her fishing boats, she will send her entire navy after it. Nobody messes with her civilians.

* This troper doesn't like it when important allies die. I was playing Call of Duty: World At War, and in the Shuri Castle level, the first time I played through that, I [[spoiler: didn't know I couldn't save them both and shot Polonsky's attacker first. After the grenade went off and Polonsky began screaming "Miller! They got Roebuck! YOU SONS OF BITCHES!" I went ''Oh no, NOW YOU DIE!'' and began killing as many Japanese as I could until they were all dead.]] And after Polonsky handed me his dogtags, I thought ''No...why him? Why him?'' * @/{{Meshakhad}}: While playing ''TheElderScrolls IV: Oblivion'', I suspended my "loot anything with a high value-to-weight ratio" with regards to fellow soldiers during the Battle of Kvatch. I would take gold, but I would only take weapons or armor if it was superior to mine (such as not being broken). When I left Kvatch, I had replaced every single piece of equipment except my bow - all with equipment taken from dead Kvatchian soldiers. * Playing ''TheLegendOfZelda: Twilight Princess'', @/ThinksTooMuch was racing her brother to the finish and so I ended up ending the game without rescuing the Poe Collector. I felt awful about it and still feel sorry for the guy, and I couldn't just fix it next playthrough because the disc wore out. If I ever get the chance to play it again, I don't care how irritating it is or how long the freaking [[BonusDungeon Cave of Ordeals]] takes me, the guy is being freed. I also always tried to make sure I left Epona somewhere nice and safe. ** I also like to leave Epona in a safe location in every game she's in. I actually have a good reason for it though (kinda). Back when I first played OcarinaOfTime I was told by a friend that if you left Epona in an unsafe location for too long the Gerudos would steal her (I still don't know where the hell he got that idea, but I believed it). Now it's just a matter of compassion for a video game character. * In a combination of this and {{Videogame Cruelty Potential}} I played through Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of The Underdark initially as an insanely evil character, right up through the battle with [[spoiler: the Valsharess.]] After that battle, however, when you find out that [[spoiler: Deekin has died, gone to heaven, and tried to fight his way through celestials to come back to you]], I just didn't have the heart to do it any more. I wanted my character to be a person worthy of that sort of loyalty. From that point on I played the character good. I only managed to get him to neutral by the end of the game, though. * In Warcraft 3, in the last mission of the Human campaign I made sure the captain (a footman with a fancy helmet) lived. My reason was so that the guy might help out the humans one last time before the Burning Legion completely screwed over the one half of the world. * In the Sonic Adventure Chao Gardens, this troper carefully raised, named, fed, and ''loved'' her little adorable Chao. Then went screaming and crying to her mother when she found out her brother went behind her back and threw them all against the wall when she wasn't looking. ** [[@/{{Nyperold}} I]] once accidentally jumped on a Chao in ''SonicAdventure2''. You can ''bet'' the first thing I did was pick it up and cuddle it for a while. * In ''{{Left 4 Dead}}'', this troper sometimes feels bad shooting the

common infected who are just sitting on the ground, leaning against a wall, or otherwise not paying any attention to what's going on. She feels better when she reminds herself that they're extremely sick and in a lot of pain, therefore she's probably putting them out of their misery... and that they'd claw her face off if she didn't get them first. She's also rushed out of the rescue vehicle during a Finale to save a CPU teammate. No one left behind! * While my brother was playing OcarinaOfTime he was attempting to free Epona from Ingo, and kept failing. He finally gave up, and I gave him the DeathGlare, hissed, "You WILL free the horse that has saved your ass in the other games," and forced the controller back in his hands. He did it next shot. In retrospect, I'm not sure why I just couldn't let him abandon her. * While relatively minor compared to some other examples, every time this troper has played through ''CaveStory,'' he's made it a point to use the [[EmpathicWeapon fully powered-up Blade]] to get the kill-shot on both Misery and the Doctor. ** When [[@/MetaFour I]] get past the Heavy Press and visit the statue chamber, I make a point of facing away from the statues so that Curly gets to destroy them. * In playing ''{{Final Fantasy VII}}'', this troper always fights Hojo at the end of Disk 2 with Cloud, Nanaki and Vincent, the three people who've been most fucked over by him and who deserve the best shot at revenge. I still get the Missing Score for Barret, putting him in the party and going up the stairs to get it, before going back down to the save point, replacing Barret with Nanaki or Vincent, and going back up again to confront Hojo. ** Note that this troper also renames Red XIII Nanaki. [[MyNameIsNotDurwood After all, it's his proper name, isn't it?]] * This one's playing the ''.hack//G.U.'' trilogy. I can't help being nice to every party member, yes, even Piros the 3rd. The little "Thanks, Haseo!" messages you get when you give them good items and equipment gets me every time. I also send greeting cards to my allies as often as possible. It helps that the highly huggable Gaspard [[HeyItsThatVoice sounds]] exactly like [[{{Persona 4}} Teddie]]. ** =( "I don't like scary monsters." Do you need a [[TheWoobie hug]], Sakubo? No worries, I'll protect you! =D ** After spending three games of trying to beat the crap out of [[spoiler: Azure Knight Kite because Haseo pinned him as Tri-edge]], after completing the main game in Vol. 3, [[spoiler: "Kite" wasn't the real Tri-edge, but a neutral AI that serves Aura and was only trying to protect the system, and you get him as a party member]]. I liked using [[spoiler: him]] in battle, so I thought, why not max [[spoiler: his]] affection for Haseo and end the game as mutual friends? Said character was in my group as I struggled through the [[BonusDungeon Forest of Pain]]. The real kicker was giving [[spoiler: "Kite"]] a Gift and [[spoiler: his]] response? "Thank You" (in the text it's garbled because said character is unable to speak clearly), because the gift was particularly good. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming D'awww]]. [[spoiler: "Kite's"]] Promise Ending on the [[CrowningMomentOfFunny other hand]]...two words--[[RapeAsComedy zombie glomp]]!

** This troper is constantly sending those cute e-cards to people and tries to be as nice as possible when responding to emails. C'mon, you can't deny that [[BreakTheCutie Atoli]] and [[LoveHurts Endrance]] deserve it... * I get WAY too attached to citizens of my town in AnimalCrossing (Cookie was talking about moving and I freaked out). ** The first thing I do in an animal crossing game is build the relationship with Sable, who by the end is practically wishing she could get enough time off to go on a date. She deserves it, too, after how much crap she goes through. ** This troper tends to leave her AnimalCrossing games untouched for months on end. She often feels scared to go back and see how her wonderful town may have changed in its absense. * This troper plays the Discworld MUD, and absolutely refuses to kill any cat [=NPCs=]. She also won't kill any dogs unless they're protecting an NPC she wants to attack, or if I'm protecting a cat they try to fight with - cats are worse for me, because I have one in RL. I also have a pet cat myself in the game, and when wandering with her, I frequently shoplift a whole bunch of food and split it 50/50 between us. Whenever she dies it's a bit of a punch in the gut, although luckily she can be brought back. Oh, I did try getting a dog once, but it wasn't nearly as affectionate, so when it died, I didn't bother bringing it back or getting another one. ** This troper also loved the little spikey balls that would jump onto Link in [[TheLegendOfZelda The Wind Waker]]. They would weigh him down and make it hard to run or fight, but they were so adorable, and she always got the impression they just wanted to be Link's friends, and didn't mean to disable him so. She would always make sure to avoid killing them, and when there weren't any monsters around, she would often let them jump onto her on purpose and walk around with them all clinging to her. It was so very cute. ** This troper also played Discworld MUD at one point, and owned a deadly fluffy hawk for most of her time there. While there is absolutely no need to feed your pets (or yourself), the hawk was often fed with the hearts and eyes of the troper's unfortunate victims. * @/LordJiro has an example. In MegaManStarForce 3, viruses will show up in the 'real' world if you have the visualizer on, usually (or entirely; I've not gotten very far) in the form of [[MascotMook Metennas]]. Many are hitting whatever machine they're closest to with a pick, but some are just...there. One in particular, in Geo's room, is just sitting there...so I've decided that it's Geo's pet. * I had listened to [[LyricalDissonance Ai No Uta]], and heard of the Pikmin's plight long before renting the game {{Pikmin}} (to the point that the capitalist Pikmin 2 is DisContinuity). As such, I soon became sort of [[AFatherToHisMen a father to my Pikmin]] within minutes of starting the game. Though as an inexperienced player I had to lose many in battle, I made sure of 2 things: that each color would be properly stocked with Pikmin and that no Pikmin would be left behind. I actually got a bit emotional when half my reds got wiped out, or when a yellow got blown up by a bomb. Of course, the worst event was this: [[PlayerPunch Left Behind: 1]] ** @/LordKelvin remembers one time, returning to the ship near the end

of the day... and counted one Pikmin short. I immediately dismissed my party, organized a crack squad of flower reds, brought up my map, and mounted a search and rescue operation to track down my lost comrade. I am extremely proud to say that, throughout the first game, the total number of Pikmin I left behind at the end of the day numbered less than ten. ** I listened to Ai No Uta quite some time before actually playing the game. The moment the subtitles of the song ended, I vowed that I'd restart the level even if just one Pikmin is lost. No, I have not finished the game yet. * Give @/{{Keredis}} allied [=NPCs=] in any game, and I will keep them from the frontlines, as safe from harm as I can, regardless of how much easier it might be to complete a level if I let them risk getting hurt. Particularly notable in GuildWars, as I will heal [=NPCs=] in priority to [=PCs=], simply because the latter can be resurrected. * I purposely took Liara along to Ilos in ''MassEffect'' because she's an archaeologist and I wasn't willing to see a massive Prothean ruin and let her miss out on the chance of a lifetime. * Here's a [[{{Pokemon}} Pokemon]] example from @/{{Iriswings}}. While cleaning out her PC by releasing the pokemon she caught just to fill the Pokedex, she released a random Lickitung, a Pokemon she always found [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute weird]]. Right after she gets the "Bye, LICKITUNG!" blurb and watches it shrink out of existence- it literally POPS back into existence with the message "LICKITUNG came back! [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Was it worried about you?]]". This troper then proceeded to experience the worst case of the warm fuzzy feeling ever in her history of playing the games. She still has that Lickitung. * On the FanMadeSequel to AlisiaDragoon (as a WarCraft 3 campaign), there's one level where you start with only six units other than your hero. Problem is, you have to recruit these units via little cutscenes where they tell you they'll be happy to fight for you, hoping their ''children'' will be fine while they're away, etc. Needless to say, much, ''much'' reloading was needed to finish the mission, but it was all worth it because they ''all'' survived. * As much VideoGameCrueltyPotential as ''TheSims'' can provide, this troper actually ''doesn't'' like her Sims to die, at least not of unnatural causes. That said, caring potential is achieved easiest if you make your own Sims. You might not care if pre-gen Sims with too much drama die, but you ''don't'' want you or your best friend or your favorite characters to die. * This troper's Mass Effect 2 playthrough is coming to a screeching halt now that he knows what he has to do in order to make sure everyone (even Jack, who is this troper's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]]) lives through the suicide mission. * Sorry for the length. During my first play-through of the first Mass Effect . . . on the beachhead of Virmire. I wanted Wrex to listen, but I hadn't the level of Paragon needed! I actually hammered the grayed out section. When it wasn't an option I tried everything I could think of, my brain was racking itself trying to find a way out. Then Ashley shot him . . . and she kept shooting, as Wrex gurgled and grunted his last breath. It horrified me. I just stared at the screen watching his

bloody corpse, I don't cry that much. This time was no different, but my sorrow was replaced by fury. I pulled my weapon and was this close to shooting the Chief, when it was made apparent Shepherd pulls his gun away from friendlies. I started cursing out Ashley and saying her only reason for killing him was that she was a racist, and that she would kill Garrus, Tali, and Liara if given the chance, and would gladly nuke the Citadel if no humans were on it. (Ironic foreshadowing on my part.)When I went back, I realized I had a previous save, that I dedicated to scoring charm points. When Wrex lived I wanted to hug the man like Marty to Doc Brown at the end of Back to the Future. It was only then did I realize. "Wow! So THAT is why this game was such a big deal when it came out." (This realization didn't make the second major choice any easier.) * This troper's copy of [[{{Valkyria Chronicles}} Valkyria Chronicles's]] was picked up just out of general boredom and a lack of PS3 games at home. In previous games, he had no issues about sending generics to their deaths and would only feel marginally bad about sending more unique characters to an early grave if only for the effort he had put into them. Then [[{{Wrench Wench}} Nadine]] got gunned down after saving a scout and was summarily squished by General Jeager's tank. She gave a small speech about her remains becoming a cornerstone of peace. [[{{Stunned Silence}} Stunned Silence.]] He then summarily blew Jeager to kingdom come and then quit and loaded up his pre-battle save. He then swore that Squad 7 was going home... all of them. He didn't know about the [[{{Tearjerker}} Marberry shore]] yet... * In Jedi Academy, this troper has pity with the poor stormtroopers and techs. He learns Force Choke just so he could disarm them, then takes all the nearby weapons so they don't try to be a hero and sometimes even moves them to prevent their death by running off platforms. He even hates the necessity of killing officers to get their keys. Everything that has a chance to kill him is a fair game, though. * In Eve Online, this troper feels really, really bad about abandoning his drones, and will do his damnest to keep them alive and will go back to fetch them if he had to warp out in an emergency. * I always feel bad about car jacking people in GTA and games like it. I also feel bad for the civilians I kill (especially in games like The Saboteur, where the civilians are the ones you're trying to protect). * While playing FFVII: Crisis Core this Troper had gotten extremely attached to Angeal and when she found out what Hollander did to him and how he thought he was a monster, she snapped and her mind went into ILLKILLYOU mode. Needless to say she was very happy when she finally tracked Hollander down and [[spoiler: killed him.]] ** This troper, for the longest time, put off beating the game. She wanted to finish all the missions, she wanted to collect all the items, she wanted to do this and that...all so Zack would keep living for just a little longer. She's doing the same thing with her second playthrough (because she COULDN'T get all the missions and stuff when she started caring about it the first time around). She isn't sure she wants to beat the game again. '''THAT ENDING IS CRUELTY ON SQUARE ENIX'S PART.'''

* In games of ''OperationFlashpoint'', this troper often feels bad when his AI squad mates die, especially if they're under his command. In one mission this troper played recently, he led a small squad in an attack on a few enemy-held bases. A couple of his men were killed in the process of taking the first objective, but that wasn't the worst of it. A third one was injured and the only medic was among those killed, so there was no way to treat his injuries. Since we were in the middle of enemy territory, there was no hope of medievac, so this troper just had to do his best to carry on with the mission, even as the wounded man's condition gradually worsened until he eventually died. * In ''{{Bioshock}} 2'', The Little Sisters are all about this. Taking a crying Little Sister and taking her in as she harvests ADAM is just...oddly heartwarming in an weird way. You may not be mindless in caring about Little Sisters like the other Big Daddies, but you still treat them as if they were your own child. Then you take them to the vents, you have the choice of making them Human again, freeing them and giving them another chance at life out of Rapture; before they were turned into Little Sisters, or harvesting them like a sick, heartless bastard. This Troper could not even think about harvesting them, as he grew attached to them from the first adoption. Aside from that, there is also the entire Eleanor subplot, throughout the game she calls you "Father" and genuinely loves you, she learns how to act from watching you throughout the game, and will become a [[spoiler: savior of the Little Sisters if you play your cards right]] And then at the end when [[spoiler:Elaine temporarily has her heart stopped]], This Troper yelled in rage and vowed to make [[spoiler:Lamb]] pay ** Holy hell, are you me?! On topic, after saving a Little Sister in the first BioShock, I would ALWAYS follow her back to her vent to make sure she wasn't murdered by a random Splicer. Like hell any little girls are gonna get murdered on MY watch! *** Whoa! This Troper also can NEVER harvest a Little Sister in either game, plus in 2, I ALWAYS stand next to the vent to make sure the now human (and adorable!) little girl gets in the vent safely. I kinda stand as close as I can to pretend that I'm lifting her up to safety... *** When BearyScary first heard about ''BioShock'' and its Little Sisters from ''Game Informer'', she swore to never harvest any of them, ever. One of the few promises she's ever upheld. * This Troper has an entire town on {{The Sims 3}} full of families she has very carefully built from scratch, all based on characters from her stories. She goes out of her way (spending God knows how many hours!) to make sure everyone ends up with a loving spouse, has nice kids, has a good job, has plenty of money, etc. etc. She just can't bear to let anything bad happen to these characters. Total mush, I know. * In any given playthrough of Persona 4, this troper tends to develop a distinct fondness for Naoto when she finally joins your party... To the point where I regularly give her the best equipment available BEFORE the Protagonist, will heal her when she hits half HP even if another character is at 1HP, at least until I get Mediaharan or Salvation, and even had the Protagonist and Naoto fight the late-game

bosses together without any additional backup. Obviously a case of Fan Preferred Couple at work as well. Who needs the Power of Friendship when you've got a revolver-toting representation of the Power of Love? ** Maiko and Akinari from Persona 3 were the target of this as well for this troper. He didn't have any qualms about hanging out with Maiko beforehand, but after she ran to him crying that [[spoiler:her father hit her,]] he immediately gave the game the stink-eye for offering a "Did you deserve it?" option (and to this day considers it the worst 'asshole response' in any game he's seen,) and spent every possible moment hanging out with her until her S. Link was maxed out. As for Akinari, this troper initially considered him to be some kind of creepy emo guy, but after talking with him and learning that he had a [[IllGirl VERY good]] [[YourDaysAreNumbered reason for it]], spent every single Sunday with him, even neglecting other S. Links and coming close to reversing at least one of them between the two of them. ** I'm with you all the way, especially in Akinari's case. * This troper enjoys Valkryia Chronicles. However, he does not always think plans through, and thusfar, it has led to the deaths of two people. 1, Herbert the Engineer (who he didn't like too much, so no love lost there.) But then, in the [[spoiler: battle with the huge tank and Ms. Magic Blaster]], Nils-one of his personal fave characters, since he was strong, had good quotes and abilites, and was a damn good lancer to boot-got taken down. His reaction: -->'''Troper:''' ...NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILS! * goes on a RoaringRampageofRevenge* DIE DIE KILL KILL I SHALL AVENGE YOU NILS DIE DIE KILL KILL! Oddly enough, that won him the battle. * In {{Prototype}} when I was driving a tank I at first slowed down at lively streets to allow the pedestrians to get the hell away from my way. Unfortunately they had [[DyingLikeAnimals contrary ideas]], so after a while I shrugged, dismissed them as TooDumbToLive and decided that not killing them intentionally will be humane enough to me. ** Tropers/NanoMoose made a similar decision early in the storyline...but in the mission where [[MoralityPet Dana]] is dragged away by a Leader Hunter that you have to pursue, I didn't merely ''pursue''. I '''tore''' through (and over and around) the streets of Manhattan at breakneck speed in complete disregard of my own safety or anyone else's trying to get her back. For once Alex and I were of one mind. Dana's genuinely heart-rending voice-acting as she screams and sobs in helpless terror didn't help. I was crushed when I found out it was futile in the end. * In {{Homeworld}}:Cataclysm whenever there was a need for an emergency hyperjump (usually it involved a massive incoming enemy fleet) and my fighters were away from the Mothership I actuall ''begged'' them to hurry up with the docking as I couldn't simply hop away and leave them to die, could I? * I got all of my squad members through ''MassEffect 2'''s suicide mission...except Tali. I felt so bad about this that I loaded up my last manual save so I could do it again--the ''right'' way. Thing is, I'd been mostly relying on autosaves, so my last save file was ''halfway through the game.'' (During Tali's loyalty mission,

appropriately enough.) I replayed the entire second half of the game just so NoOneGetsLeftBehind. ** '''''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome DAMN]]'''''. * This Troper feels this for every game he plays,he's nearly completely immune to {{Videogame Cruelty Potential}} and the few times he throws [[TombRaider Lara]] off a cliff or blows someone to little pieces he ALWAYS feels bad and reloads the game afterwards. He never kills innocents unless he's forced to ,including cops and soldiers(unless they are complete monsters). People laugh at him for evading cops without hurting anyone in {{Grand Theft Auto}} and similar games. He never won [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic dark side points]] or played a [[MassEffect fully renegade Shepard]]. Whenever he plays {{HalfLife2}} he NEVER allows a resistance fighter to be killed while they are following him, he even cheated once to save the ones who were scripted to die. It may be because this troper likes to roleplay as if he really were the character in the game so having all those people dying or being a total jerk makes him feel bad. * If you can just stand there and listen to Tali completely breaking down when she finds her father, you have no soul. * Whenever I defeat a [[ShadowOfTheColossus colossus]], I use the few seconds before the wispy strands of blackness get me to turn to the fallen foe and crouch down, "bowing" to pay it respect. Except for the [[TheScrappy turtle]], of course. * While playing MetalGearSolid3, I had been planning on letting EVA faint during the EscortMission, since it's apparently easier to drag her the whole way instead of doing the mission normally. I also had almost no food become of somewhat crappy planning. But... I couldn't really do it. This led to walking slowly and stopping often, making sure that she could keep up and knew where I was, acting as a human shield when we got attacked (including a DivingSave of sorts), and, when she was too weak from hunger to move, leaving her in a safe spot and taking on the entire group of guards to get them out of the way so I could find food for her. The whole thing took a stupid amount of time, I almost died several times, but EVA got through the whole thing without taking any damage. But... GoodFeelsGood. Also, not surprisingly, I didn't kill anyone in the game except Volgin. I'm a complete softie, could you tell? * This Troper loves to play Bully, but he has to try and be careful when playing. All the characters just randomnly walking around will sometimes bump into him, and unless he's on a mission, he will try to apologize and even talk to some of the characters. Also, he's a sucker for the little side missions the children have for him. He will always say yes, ''even'' during a mission. Its gotten so bad that sometimes he avoids them, because he knows when they ask, he'll just have to say yes. ** It doesn't hurt any that they pay you for it too. * A minor example, but I ''always'' give the [[MassEffect krogan]] a fish and tell him it's from the Citadel's lake. Even though it's a renegade option, I simply ''cannot'' wreck his fantasy by telling him the truth. * {{Persona 3}} [[UpdatedRerelease Portable]]. Tropers/{{Animenutcase}} got a PSP just to play it. She ''always''

makes sure to max out [[spoiler:Shinjiro's]] Social Link because [[spoiler:she doesn't have the heart to let him die]]. ** You too? (^^)/\(^^) * This troper always at least ''tries'' to save survivors in ''DeadRising'', and has played enough to have a handle on it that keeps even its flashes of ArtificialStupidity from being too much of an issue. But even then, they make it if they make it, unless she's trying for the Saint achievement (which she still hasn't successfully gotten) and of course, you can't get hundred percent completion unless you forget about it or don't make such a thing of it on certain playthroughs anyway. Unless the survivor in question is Paul Carson she'll stop zombie-genociding to go out of her way to engage his case, restart if she misses with the fire extinguisher during the ManOnFire thing, bring a bottle of wine to boost his health and one extra just in case, and MamaBear on him all the way back to the security room. * This troper got so involved in role playing [[DotHack Kite]] that when he Data Drained [[HeroKiller Skeith]] during the final boss battle of .hack//Infection he shouted, ''out loud'', [[AndThisIsFor "This is for Orca you Son of a Bitch!"]] * This troper ''never'' releases a Pokemon, even when he has more than one and only collects them for breeding another, and never uses them besides. * In Red Dead Redemption, I always have Mister Marston veer off his mission to rescue the prostitutes being abused and/or kidnapped and men who's wife/sister is about to be hung. Doesn't matter what's going on, if it's possible for Marston to abandon his mission to do it, then by ''God'' he'll do it! * In Red Dead Redemption again, when a minor character in the third act was killed, I said: "Okay, everyone that just killed him? Every single one of my bullets will be in his name." * bambambam* I made sure every bullet count. * I just couldn't bear to see Alistair suffer when I played my Female City Elf. He wanted to visit his sister although everyone else thought he was veering off the mission. I thought, "Buddy, you want to see your sister? You will. The world can wait." * BioWare is great about this! I wanted to play a bastard in KnightsOfTheOldRepublic, but my party members..."Not in front of Carth. He's got enough troubles with trust." "Not in front of Mission; the kid's had enough bad examples." "Not in front of Juhani. She really wants to see the best in you." "Not in front of Zaalbar. He's sworn that life debt; don't make him regret it!" Same Troper on JadeEmpire was a complete MamaBear when it came to Wild Flower. Do NOT threaten that little girl or talk about her with anything but respect unless you want your ass kicked from here to Dirge! * I cannot play Black and White as evil. Part of it is pragmatism. If you're an evil god, resources you would have used to expand your villages and influence have to go into rebuilding what you trashed by showing off your latest trick with fireballs. But it's also very peaceful to see your villagers playing a little football or dancing. On a different tack, it's also comforting to nurture and develop your Sim. I made Nervous Subject my pet project, and rehabilitated him into the town hero, happily married to a townie. Destroying things never

made me feel better. Fixing a bad situation ''always'' did. * When I played ''Sims 2'' with the pets expansion, I couldn't bear to let the pets suffer despite the callous treatment I gave the Sims. Every Sim family that had a pet were pretty much spared my unholy wrath. * In Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty, I felt so bad for forgetting to rescue Talwyn at the caverns that, upon finding her after her capture by the hands of [[spoiler:Captain Slag/Darkwater]], I asked immediately if she was okay, to prove she's more important for safety than some dumb Fulcrum Star (okay, we needed the star to find Clank, but still.). * {{Tropers/Crion87}} knows this one is going to be on the Cynical end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, but he was replaying QuakeII (he got it [[{{ExpansionPack}} and its two expansion packs]] when be bought a collector's edition of QuakeIV on sale), and had fun playing Rambo, killing those nasty [[{{HollywoodCyborg}} Strogg]] as if he were an [[{{RecycledINSPACE}} interstellar]] Rambo. Then he got to the bits where the only non-hostiles in the game appeared [[{{RedshirtArmy}} the remnants of the dropship force from the intro]], in the [[{{HellholePrison}} Strogg's detention facilities]], where they were [[{{GoMadFromTheRevelation}} driven quite obviously insane by]] [[{{ColdBloodedTorture}} what the Strogg had done to them]]. So, {{Tropers/Crion87}} [[{{ShootTheDog}} killed said nonhostiles]] as a MercyKill; seeing what had happened to those poor babbling soldiers and [[{{HighOctaneNightmareFuel}} only guessing as to what horrors the Strogg inflicted on them to drive them nuts]] he went back to shooting Strogg with even ''more'' relish to pay those [[{{PrecisionFStrike}} fucking]] [[{{CompleteMonster}} alien cyborg S.O.B.s]] back. For all those crude blocky graphics, and [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} could still feel sympathy for his ''euthanasia victims'' in that game]], giving more drive to complete the game [[{{AndThisIsFor}} to get one back for]] [[{{RedShirt}} those same euthanasia victims]]. Yes, {{Tropers/Crion87}} also knows what happens to the player in QuakeIV, but that's CompletelyMissingThePoint... * Anyone else found themselves feeling sorry for stormtroopers in ''Jedi Outcast'' and ''Jedi Academy''? 'cause this editor couldn't bring himself to keep playing after umpteenth conversation between those poor bastards, duly followed by a slaughterhouse. This editor's friend advised him to kill them all before they start talking. I'm kinda wary of said friend now. ** What about the other Jedi if you pick the light side ending in ''Academy''? At first they're just guys who follow you around and help you kill the bad guys, but if you take a moment to watch them use a force power, most noticeably heal or protect, it's not hard to work out that (from their lack of skill) they're mostly only Padawans. I tend to feel fairly protective of the little apprentices since Jaden is supposedly a full Jedi Knight by then. **ALSO, Kyle. Once a Stormtrooper surrendered, so I let him go. Then Kyle shows up and chases him down the hall until he can kill him. WHAT. * I consider certain pokemon to be my friends and god help the poor bastard who causes them to faint. * I've always treated all my pokemon (or at least the ones I used

often and got close to) with the utmost respect, and at some points, love. God help whatever poor soul dares to take down my beloved Infernape in Diamond... Because there will be [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown no mercy in that.]] ** And speaking of [[IncrediblyLamePun No Mercy]], when I play Left4Dead, I can't stand anything hurting Zoey. Ever. To the point where I actually play as her to avoid her getting harmed at every chance I can get. When [[VideogameCrueltyPotential Versus mode comes along, though...]] * I always get attacked to my team in Pokemon. Always. I encourage them out loud, and praise them when they do things I want them to. And thanks to other tropers, I've begun to give them personalities. My current team consists of a GeniusBruiser Nidorino, a DefrostingIceQueen Dratini(the only one I'm not fully evolving, because Dragonair is simply beautiful), an eager-to-please but slightly bumbling [[EverythingsPreciousWithPuppies Growlithe]], a GentleGiant TeamMom Croconaw, a Victreebel who TookALevelInBadass when he evolved, and a Zubat who's somewhat insecure about her abilities. I'm excited to play through this time, I can't wait to see how the game shapes up and how my Pokemon will [[CharacterDevelopment develop.]] ** Sparkling Angel here. I too talk to mine. They always seem to shake confusion off faster when I'm calling them....*sniff* I don't care if people think I'm obssessed. They are MINE, and long as I have them, they will be the happiest mon alive! ** This troper, too, cares for every pokemon he obtains, but none more than one empoleon called Pip. It was born in Diamond, and has been through Platinum and Soulsilver, but he still has a long way to go yet before he's at his last leve. No pokemon survives harming his friends. No villan survives harming ''anything'' or anyone while I'm around. * In ''LastWindow'' Chapter 7, there is a segment where [[spoiler:Mila gives Kyle a drawing of him, and in exchange asks him to draw her. Now, I can't draw for crap. And I was aware that anything I draw would be counted as a good picture. I didn't want to be an ass, so I drew a stick figure of Mila standing happily next to the Christmas Tree in ''HotelDusk''.]] * In the [[CallOfDuty World at War]] mission Black Cats I do my best to first save as many sailors from Japanese attacks. Of course I also need to do that just the same, to insure that I save as many as possible. * This troper started a new game of BaldursGateII recently. Being a big fan of Imoen, he started to feel more and more guilty going on all these lengthy sidequests to build up on XP and good equipment [[spoiler:knowing that Imoen was being tortured at the hands of Irenicus.]] The entire span of the game between Irenicus' dungeon and Spellhold was spent being torn between the desire to go rescue Imoen as soon as possible and need to go get stronger so that he doesn't get destroyed once he gets there. * Word of advice: When playing an RPG with a party of AFGNCAAP characters and naming them after your pre-existing original characters, be prepared to be [[PlayerPunch hit harder than usual]] when they get smacked around and even die. So this troper has learned

like playing Final Fantasy III as such. * Playing in WarCraft III I always ensure the survival of my non hero units. I keep a close watch on damage control, and hope to achieve 0 casualties of my armies in some missions. * In dungeon crawler {{RPG}}s, all of my generic units will be given a personality and backstory. ''NO EXCEPTIONS!!!'' * In Left4Dead I often feel bad on accidentally shooting survivors(be it my fault or there's), so I often try to make it up to them, albeit by giving them pills/shoots, or healing them with my own med kit. * When this troper played FinalFantasy6 and got to the part where Cid could die I went out of my way to feed him fish so Celes could have a parent figure and someone to bring Locke home to one day. When he failed the first time my heart ached and I save scrummed 3 hours of gameplay because seeing Celes happy is worth it. * On this Troper's Pokemon team NO ONE FAINTS EVER. They are my unit, they are like family, someone faints there will be hell to pay for my opponent. * In PokemonMysteryDungeon, this Troper tends to get VERY attached to his partner to the point that I apologized if they got knocked out in a dungeon! And then, when I decided to restart, I couldn't bare to do so until I'd had a fairwell adventure through the Beach Cave dungeon at the beginning one last time to say goodbye. ** One time in Explorer's of Sky, [[Tropers/CyberTiger88 this Troper's]] partner was attacked by a criminal, was down to a few hit points and was calling me for help very weakly. Cue my BigBrotherInstinct kicking in, my Mudkip water-gunning that crook to death, and saving my Shinx. * This troper, when playing LegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess, got quite attached to Colin (mostly because he was the only not annoying kid). So, when King Bublin kidnapped the youngin in Kakariko Village, you'd better believe this troper fought like a mofo to get him back, encouraging Epona throughout the chase and shouting "NOBODY FUCKS WITH MY KID!!" when she finally knocked the ugly fucker off the bridge. * I was playing ''Medieval II: Total War'' as the English. Everything was peaceful until Spain decided to attack France. Since I personally have a fondness for the French, I said to myself, "No one hurts France under my watch." I summoned all of my men to the English Channel (led by the king of course) and dispatched them to France ala D-Day Invasion. Mission? Complete takeover of the Spanish. Status? SUCCESS!!! * This Troper gets really suckered into the world of {{Fallout}}, especially with companions. The best example can be seen in New Vegas with EnsembleDarkhorse Cass. I always unload my dynamite and whiskey into her inventory, become distressed when she is knocked out, and have actually refused to save the game a number of times when she somehow vanished due to getting stuck in an area because of minor glitching and huge numbers of enemies. * In MetalGearSolid4, This Troper, after starting a NewGamePlus, decided to unlock some stuff I missed by helping out the rebel soldiers. Cue this Troper helping them out in battles, and shedding ManlyTears over the dead bodies who were once his allies whom he traded rations with.

* In HaloWars, this Troper's younger brother has an odd penchant to obsessively care for the very first Warthog he makes (and only that Warthog), keeping it out of harms way as much as possible, and even naming it Chewie. This Troper finds it actually quite profound, given how evil his younger brother can be otherwise. * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This Troper]] has had a few instances of this in various games. Probably the best example comes from the {{Disgaea}} series, where I'm typically very protective of my PlayerMooks; especially Crystal (The team's ActionGirl; who, by the end of the first game, had far better equipment than Laharl) and Penti-chan (A {{Gender Flip}}ped version of myself, who specilzes in [[NonElemental Star magic]]), my two mainstays across the series. If one of those two dies, expect me to send several of my troops to corner the culprit and unleash a barrage of attacks to take them down. * Doesn't matter what game this troper is playing, he will ALWAYS make sure as many friendlies survive as possible. He'll even take it so far as to revert to last checkpoint/save the instant someone drops, even if he's mere seconds from completing the level. Damn it, NO ONE GETS LEFT BEHIND! It's heartbreaking if an AI that's survived for an extraordinarily long time tragically dies in way he can't prevent. Cue revenge rampage. He thinks he cares too much/gets too attached, but always imagines what it would be like if that person/friendly AI were real. It adds story, and makes this troper care about what is happening. His determination doubles if the characters aren't mindless cannon fodder (which he'll still protect), but people who by all rights wouldn't be in a fighting situation under normal circumstances (i.e. the resistance fighters in the Half Life 2 episodes). (Reach on Legendary is proving to be difficult in ways that most players wouldn't expect. He's pretty much accepted that his squad will take some losses, and everyone he meets will likely die in some offscreen battle as the planet falls into chaos. Still, watching the names X off of his squad list...) ** Same troper. If a companion or an NPC this troper cares about dies in "Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion," he'll drag the body to a quiet, serene place. He'll proceed to neatly stack stone bricks until they completely cover the body (which he's positioned as peacefully and dignified as possible). Then, he'll lay down a variety of flowers. If the companion/NPC owned anything personal (such as a sword, ring, journal, etc.), he would carefully place that item onto the tomb. Considering the finicky nature of Oblivion's physics, this process could take hours. If this troper assassinated someone who may not have deserved it, or killed a foe who put up a valiant fight, he will place a Nightshade flower on their chest out of respect. Bandits and necromancers, however, are stripped and left sprawled on the roadside or tossed over a cliff/into a river. That's what scum deserves. * This troper has a tendency to get EXTREMELY attached to all her pokemon. She recalls a recent occurance where she offered to trade a Craniados to her friend for a Misdreavus, and was told to just attach a skull fossil to a pokemon she didn't care about and trade that. Her response: "I don't have any." This troper also has a tendency to talk to her pokemon in baby-talk, much to aforemntioned friend's amusement. * Huge potential for this when playing as a Medic in [[TeamFortress2

Team Fortress 2]]. I always constantly fuss over my teammates, even going out of my way to heal someone who has only lost a few hitpoints. And, of course, there's always buddying up with a Heavy to go kick some RED/BLU ass. The feeling I get when my Heavy buddy dies after we've been on a killing spree is borderline [[TearJerker Tear Jerker]]. Then there's the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming sincere thank-yous]] given to me after I put out a burning teammate, heal someone who was near death, or use a well-timed uber to decimate a group of enemies that makes it all worth it. * I, LeoniteRider, have three examples. ** The first two are in Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions. The first was in the Noir levels, where the highest priority is always to save the civillians. Really this is true for all the Spider-Men, but it mainly hit me when I was play Noir. The second was in 2099, I was running away from the radiation wave, my first playthrough, then I spot the scientist who helps you earlier on. My mind entered a cleared state, I instictively turned on the Bullet time-esque Accelarated Vision, and grab her and swing out of there, managing to get enough for it to empty as I grabbed her and be refilled halfway to the exit. I was fully prepared to finish the fight now, threatening to kill me is one thing, threatening to kill an innocent scientist who is implied to be an old friend of Ock's is crossing the line. ** Third is in Disgaea 2, an active piece of Caring. I have three character overpowered more so than the others, Adell (Currently level 60, has 8000 hp roughly), Shu-ryu (Sword Specialist Warrior who I plan to reincarnate as a Magic Knight at one point to make him more awesome, and possibly a Heavy Knight afterwards, has roughly the same health, Level 111, a few reincarnation cycles behind Adell) and Ingret (Healer, can shrug off spells like they're paper, level 70). If one of my characters are low on health, either Adell or Shun-ryu, along with a heavy Knight if they need the distance and Ingret to heal the others, come out and deliver a beat down. And if my characters start dying, their forces start dying back... one time, the rest of the force, outside of my control despite healing, died. I was fine, at the time Shun-ryu asn't as strong, but I had Adell instead... then they chose to kill Rosalin, inflicting too much damage for her to survive, Shun-ryu dying next to her, leaving three characters on the field, my Wood Golem Tree Ent, Ingret and Adell. I ensured that Adell slaughtered each and every last one of the bastards, using his at-thetime new Vulcan Blaze move. I only wish I had played Axel mode first and unlocked Magichange so Tree Ent could've joined in. ** As a little after note, not so impressive, but so far I've made sure that my single Prinny member has entered every Dark Court meeting for felonies. Currently, the count is at 36 and rising, with a thief companion about 5 felonies behind * Mid-game in Fable III, when you and Walter meet [[spoiler: The Crawler and Walter goes blind]], he tells you to leave him behind. Even my evil character, who commits murder on a daily basis and is the source of everyone's grief and suffering, refuses to leave him behind. * This Troper felt this way when playing AmnesiaTheDarkDescent. Damn it, even if Daniel died, no matter how many times she had to run from Mr. Face, she ''would'' help Agrippa.

* Always, ''alway''s whenever Children's Week comes around on WorldofWarcraft this Troper will suspend ''everything'' she has been doing in order to pick up an orphan and take them sight seeing. They're just so gosh darned cute, excited '' and so stoked'' you're taking them to see whatever they want all over the world and buy them ice cream or dragon plushies. I like to think the little orphan goes to bed with that toy. Eagerly awaiting adventures with me the next day or, sadly next year once Children's Week is over. I honestly wish I could adopt my orphans in that game. * [[@/CCMars This Troper]] does NOT look forward to the day ShinMegamiTenseiImagine closes its doors, as she's become too attached to both her player characters AND their demons, in particular Phoenix and Feng Huang. She has created in-depth backstories, personalities and relationships for her human characters (including referring to them as blood sisters despite the impossibility of actually meeting each other in-game) and individual personalities for her powerhouse demons. The kicker? She still feels this way despite not playing in at least two months as of this writing. * Edgy feels this way for his Mook Units in ''{{Disgaea}}''. He puts time and energy into his vassels and grows to like them. Whenever one is killed in battle, he replies with a ''BigNo''. * [[@/{{Stealth}} I]] can't be the only one who plays TeamFortress2 as a Helpful Pyro. I carry the stock flamethrower and the Homewrecker to put out people on fire, reflect explosives, and de-sap stuff when Spies come on by...and of course, as a Pyro, I have a natural duty to ensure stuff doesn't get sapped in the first place, and Engineers are easily the most harried and second most unappreciated class (right behind the Medic), so I try to make life easier for any Engies on my side. * When playing {{Portal 2}}, this troper always tends to reply to the dialogue as if he's actually there. [[spoiler: Even after Wheatley turned against Chell, this troper specifically forbid GLaDOS from killing him, because seeing the little guy get crushed had already sent him into a [[HeroicBSOD Heroic BSOD]] once.]] * I wouldn't dream of ever bringing harm to my sims in TheSims2 (Aside from one death, which was a MercyKill as I felt he'd rather die than become an elder). [[PapaWolf But if an NPC threatens them, they're getting the Sim Vac treatment.]] It's most satisfying using it on [[GoddamnBats those annoying mascots and cheerleaders]] who constantly make your sims' lives hell during university. * This troper made the mistake (if it can be called that) of playing {{Iji}} through as a complete pacifist the first time. I justified that seeing as I was going to play through it a second time as a standard shooter game, I didn't need to kill anyone (including the cheap reflection-kills) the first playthrough. And now I simply can't bring myself to play the violent path. [[ActualPacifist Currently trying to get through it with 0 kills and 0 damage.]] * While [[FairyDreamer this troper]] will admit she finds it funny when other people are cruel to their game characters, she can't stand to do it herself. She hates to let her pokemon faint and in The Sims 2 and 3, she tries to keep the happiness/wish-fullfilment meters at the top. And she especially feels protective of the Sims children (which

probably comes from her own love of [[FriendToAllChildren real-life children]]). For example, in TS2, she once had a Sim with the Romance aspiration cheat on his lover. While the affair was going on, the daughter and son of said cheater walked in, saw and started crying, leaving this troper feeling bad. So bad, that she exited the lot (she hadn't saved it) and repeated the affair, but made sure to keep the kids outside this time. Yeah, this troper is a sap. * This troper, a couple of weeks ago, was playing CallOfDuty: ModernWarfare at his friend's house. On a couple of levels, where he knew there would be only a few randomly generated soldiers, he decided to keep a close eye on names, for the sake of humor. Here are some results: ** On Loose Ends, during the sequence when mines shoot up and kill your teammates (except Ghost, Ozone, and Scarecrow), this tropers teammates were memorized as: Angel, Bishop and Jayhawk. This troper paused for a moment (literally paused the game) to honor the memory of Jayhawk, who was the man in front of him at that time. ** Later on was a soldier who's nickname was Hazard, on the Gulag. Of course, he was a random soldier, but he was the ONLY randomly generated soldier in the mission who survived for a while (the rest tended to be killed easily, and it's admitted this troper was apathetic about their death). Of course, like some soldiers, he would spout warning lines, but being that he survived the longest, this troper spent a majority of the mission coming up with a back story for the guy, as if to give him a reason for why he helped Roach so much. Then, when they reached the shower area, Hazard was shot down in an instant with three sniper shots. This troper was horrified to see Hazard's history end so quickly. * I'm almost certain I'm not the only one who completely ragequit over Vindictus' [[TheWoobie Ellis]], a young cadet who always looked up to your character and wanted to get into the Royal Army. Unfortunately, [[WouldHurtAChild goblins happened.]] ----

VideogameCrueltyPotential * {{Tropers/Ikanna}} loved [[BlackandWhite Black & White]] when she was three. Her mom threw it away because she [[ColdBloodedTorture tortured]] [[KillEmAll anything]] [[AxeCrazy that]] moved [[CruelPlayerCharacterGod quite]] [[SlasherSmile happily.]] * {{Tropers/Mandemo}} is suprised Game/EvilGenius is not mentioned. Let's face it, is there anything more satisfying than putting female agents into [[NaughtyTentacles greenhouse]]? Or howabout some [[FrickinLaserBeams laser operated]] [[GroinAttack groin surgery]]? Even better, minions with low loyalty can be (literally) brainwashed back 100% loyalty. Best part comes with super agents, who refuse to die unless specific trick is used on them, meaning you can [[ColdBloodedTorture torture them again...]] [[CompleteMonster and again...]] [[FateWorseThanDeath and again...]] * This Troper used this constantly on the Zoo Tycoon 2 and its expansion, dinosaurs, which had fully animated dinosaurs who had an

animation eating a human. They basically asked for Video Game Cruelty, I simply provided. First, Hatch about 3 T-Rexes. Wait till you have a sizable amount of people. get them all in one place, then lower the terrain so no one can escape. Unleash all T-Rex's into said pit using corrals and a ramp down. While this occurs, put medium boulders in a mazelike formation that ends in a dead end, so when running from the T-Rex they will get stuck in a dead end and be consumed. Naturally, leave the T-Rex in the pit till it starves as well. The other variation of this idea is to get one of each species and as many humans as you can in your park, and just press shift + 4. The gates deteriorate, releasing all the animals simultaneously for a supremacy death match. HilarityEnsues. ** [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} This troper]], while playing Black and White 2, usually gets his Creature to take on the enemy troops, and gets the Creature to eat the resulting enemy dead. Not to mention if he's taken over a village and the Creature is occupied elsewhere and his own troops aren't nearby, [[{{KillItWithFire}} down comes a fireball miracle]]. The little side-quest when the random villager accuses me of interloping with his daughter? A rock on your shack and on you, if [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} this troper]] doesn't feed you to the Creature... *** Another fun trick? Buy the multipickup. Grab about a hundred villagers at once and laugh your ass off as you throw them into the sea. *** This troper had to take pictures of a Secreatary Bird in different poses. This was veary hard and I got fed up and put the bird in a exhibit with a lion, a lioness, a crocodile, a wolf, a cheetah, a jaguar, a komodo dragon and a nile monitor. It didn't end well. * This Troper is EXTREMELY fond of torturing her villagers (even more so, my enemies' villagers C:< ) in [[BlackandWhite Black & White]] . It's just too funny burning, electrocuting, throwing around, drowning, crushing, and siccing wolves and/or my Creature on all the tiny, helpless people and their buildings. She also has an easy method of taking over villages by killing everyone off by either the previously mentioned violent methods, or the slightly more-or-less underhanded tactic of poisoning food supplies and letting everyone slowly die of food poisoning, followed by replacing them with a few of my own villagers and throwing a rock or two around. Of course, you can do some of the same things in the sequel, but I've currently only played as a Good God, so I've never really tried anything out yet. But, in both games, there's also the hilarious act of forcing your Creature to eat his own poo, then watching him vomit. * This troper is a particular proponent of the Morrowind Killing Spree, although the world is kind of lonely with that damned Argonian in Mournhold being the only one left alive (because once Asciene Rene is killed in Ebonheart you can't get to Mournhold to kill the Argonian on the other end of the portal.) ** Why didn't you kill the Argonian, then use a Recall spell to return to Morrowind? * @/{{SharPhoe}} has a friend who had recently started playing [[{{Fable}} Fable II]], and "for a change of pace" decided he was sick of being the good guy and chose to be evil. Not legitimately evil,

mind you. StupidEvil. As in "from the get-go, I'm going to slaughter every single person who so much as ''dares'' to '''exist''' within 5 miles of me. [[ForTheEvulz Because I can.]]" Needless to say, watching someone bludgeon poor, defenseless townsfolk to a pulp without so much as breaking a sweat [[BoringInvincibleHero kinda gets old after not too long.]] But he was enjoying himself, so I politely kept my trap shut. ** Unless Fable II has a lot more evil missions, you have to be stupid evil even to be moderately evil in the game. * Am I the only one who played as a robot on [[TimeSplitters Time Splitters 2]], set all the bots to Snowmen, and then made the only weapon flamethrowers? * This troper was playing X-com and wanted to see how far he could level grind his best soldier. After starting a Terror mission, the troper fed all of his squadmates to the Chrysalids, while the remaining soldier used jetpacks to stay out of reach and slaughtered all of the Chrysalids, his zombified former teammates, and the Chrysalids that popped out of their corpses, ironically doing so still gives you a good mission rating since your kills are still greater than your deaths. Unfortunately, the soldier didn't improve very much, so this troper was merciful and reloaded. ** The only redeeming value some recruits have is that you can name them things like ''Dead Man Walking'' and ''Cannon Fodder'' and let them take point. Preferably with a primed grenade in hand. * I have been known to make the guards of MetalGearSolid 4 suffer greatly, shoot the soldiers in the legs, added with the emotion grenades and a couple of nutchrushes later and you will make them wish they were dead. ** Also, declining an enemy faction's offer of surrender for their side in ''AlphaCentauri'' is very satisfying when THEY started the war! *** Same in ''Spore''. Aliens bubbling frightened in Simlish as your fleet is poised to wipe their race from the universe is IMMENSELY satisfying (or maybe I'm a CompleteMonster). My race are also Zealots. For the glory of Spode! *** Playing Spore, I tend to go the aggressive way, building up superpowerful empires using heavy weaponry. I also tend to play as a scientist, for the ability to destroy alien presence on a planet with one shot. So imagine my chagrin when a rival zealot civilization attacked me, and then their allies attacked me as well. The first civilization I drove back to a minor terrascore 0 planet, and made peace with them. The other civilization managed to take some of my planets, until I drove them back, and accidently made peace with them. Then I blew them and their buddies off the map with a planet buster. All this time, I was shouting "That's what you get for fucking up scientific progress!" *** I think I might have wiped out a race by accident. Somewhere within my empire, another race had made it to Civ stage. Bored, I paid them a visit and abducted a few of their citizens. When I checked back a few days later, they'd gone back to Tribal. Then they weren't even there and I colonized the planet. *** Also, there was that one time I uplifted two races in close

proximity to each other--one became a Warrior and the other became a Shaman. They are at war with each other for what I assume to be my favor. *** This Troper has established a Warrior race whose sole purpose is to be as asshole-ish as possible, but the nastiest thing she's ever done in Spore was, in fact, with her LawfulNeutral Scientists: The first time she found a purple spice planet, she really wanted to colonize it. The problem: There were already some tribesmen living on a neighboring planet, so the star system was taken. The solution: Bust out Gravitation Wave. The best/worst part? ''None of the other empires seemed to care that she'd broken galactic code this time.'' So, basically, she wiped out an innocent tribal race for living in the same solar system as the planet she wanted, and suffered no repercussions. Fwee. *** This troper usually get ride of civ or tribal race by destroying the delicate climate of the planet, and restoring it afterward. *** When this troper reached Civ on his first playthrough, he built a tank with lots of BFGs, and [[RuleOfCool for the sake of coolness]], added a bulldozer blade on the front. Then he bought a bunch of them and sent them to capture an enemy city. A few minutes later, the city is captured, and when this troper was going to inspect it, he noticed a dozen or so extremely cute, extremely dead critters between his capital and said city... *** This troper potentially is the worst with this. I found earth no biggy, I made it T3 waited for a tribe to form, uplifted it to space, allied the species bought earth, than killed the species off. *** This Troper needed the Joker badge so he used the infinite money cheat on the Civ stage. And then proceeded to paint the surface of the planet black by chain-firing missiles at it. Needless to say, he won. *** In Spore, this troper established his race as peaceful merchants. I don't start wars with other empires, but woe be it to any race foolish enough to declare war on me. *** Spodies/Zealots have always been something of a [[TheScrappy scrappy]] in Spore, but I had usually regarded them as annoyances to be ignored or fought off and driven home with a good spanking. Then one zealot race managed to wipe out my colonies on a planet I'd worked hard at colonizing. This meant war, faith-heads. So I stocked up on planet busters and followed them to their empire. BOOM went an outlying world (and, incidentally, AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhh... went my relationship scores, but I didn't care). Surrender. Went to another planet, BOOM. Surrender. They didn't surrender. Went to another planet, BOOM. Surrender yet? Nope. Repeated the process until I got to their homeworld. Anti-matter bombed a few colonies and they begged me to spare them. I said "Yes, let there be peace." Then I fired the Planet Buster and cleansed the galaxy of their species. This became even more fun when I downloaded the BetterSpore mod and a trainer for invulnerability and infinite item usage. BetterSpore introduced the Xionic Omega Device, which has the same functionality as the Gravitation Wave (destroys all colonies on a world, leaves ecosystem intact) but does not incur the relationship penalty for galactic code violations. Now, as soon as I first encounter a Zealot race, the theistic little fuckers get systematically eradicated via Xionium

bombs until they go extinct and I plant monoliths on all their worlds to elevate replacement species to dominance. If those turn out to be Spodies too, I repeat until another philosophy prevails. Also, since the trainer gives me unlimited item usage, I make sure that if I find a species who adheres to the Philosophy of Science, I deploy the Staff of Life on their homeworld and all the other planets in their home system to give them instant T3s and an all-around nice boost, and then I ally with them. Eat it, faith. Eat it and like it. ** This troper, in ''Metal Gear Solid 2'', likes baiting guards with "specialist magazines" (IfYouKnowWhatIMean) and then ambushing them with [=C4s=], as well as "abusing helpless animals." But don't tell PETA about that last bit... ** [=MGS4=]? I love knocking the guards out and attaching C-4 to them while they're down. It makes for good fun watching them run for their allies before I press the button and they turn into explodium. * In ''Roller Coaster Tycoon'', open a successful park. Through a series of "do not enter" signs, corral everyone into a 1x2 or 2x2 patch of path. Lower the ground under the path and raise the water in the same spot. At this point, you have hundreds of people in a tiny island in the middle of water. After making all of your patrons angry or tired, destroy the path from underneath them, remembering that [[SuperDrowningSkills no one can swim.]] ** Speaking of ''RCT'' and the shuttle loop thing, am I the only one who used to synchronise several of these deathtraps together just to get a pseudo-fireworks display out of screaming people and [[MadeOfExplodium exploding coaster cars]]? I Think Not. ** This troper found a more practical use for drowning RCT guests: ''only drown the unhappy ones''. Park ratings will skyrocket. * @/SeanTucker needs to quit adding TroperTales entries. However, he does love killing people via NeckSnap in the MixedMartialArts missions in Saints Row 2. * The first two {{Soldier of Fortune}} games allow for a lot of cruelty, especially the first one, for how easy it is to blow off entire limbs. However, this troper became infamous among his friends for being the guy who often killed people by hitting them in the crotch with a thrown combat knife. * Not sure if this counts, but I always make sure to finish off evrey boss in a video game in the strongest and flashiest way possible. Or [[CherryTapping Cherry Tap]] them. I also try many diffrent non conventional ways to kill enemies, if only a good example would come to mind. * @/{{AceOfScarabs}} is guilty of farming newbie pilots in Ace Online, by sneaking his A-Gear deep into the opposing nation's territory and gunning down the air-frames of said newbies as they go about their missions, at least until their high-level mentors come around to chase him off. * This troper is an unrepentant douchebag god in the world of ''TheSims2''. Far beyond the usual 'trapped in the pool' stuff, too; between forced inbreeding, horrifically unsafe living conditions, suicidal exhaustion, grossly untrained attempts at anything dangerous and boarding houses that verge on Arkham Asylum, no tiny digital representation of a human is safe from the boredom-driven bursts of

carnage and darkly humorous bloodshed. Try it some time! ** Forced inbreeding? Is this with cousins-or-further, or siblings? 'Cause the game won't let you do the latter without a mod. *** Actually, as noted/linked somewhere else on this wiki (I think TheSims2 page), there's a trick to do it without mods or whatever. Of course, it's still kinda weird to go though all that effort. **** @/JuiceBoxHero does it by having both children adopted out by different families, then having them meet as adults. This troper also takes young children away from their homes and places them in families with adult Sims who "mentor" them and act as replacement parents, [[WifeHusbandry then become love interests and spouses for them later on.]] **** This troper did it with the Goths (Sims 3) by having Mortimer marry Bella, Agnes' daughter having kids with a CAS vampire sim, Mortimer's sister Berenice marrying a CAS sim that had the genetics of her and Mortimer, then had Agnes' daughter and Berenice's son have a kid, then their kid is having a kid with Cassandra, their kid will have a kid with the ghost if Gunter, and I'll continue similar cycles of having kids marry/have affairs with family memebers who are too distant to be recognised as family. ** This troper (with gleeful and unrepentant use of cheating) set up a cult disguised as a Greek house in ''University''. Its only purpose, to breed the perfect human specimen. Every Sim who joined the cult would be (using a mod) made pregnant by the cult leader. And let's just put it this way: remember that song, "If you tolerate this, then your children will be next"? [[spoiler:They were.]] ** This troper prefers to use Inteenimator to make a Sim pregnant with themselves, then age the clone up via cheats. Then I kill the parent. There would be no difference despite relationships. Repeat process, create twins a couple of times and have a house full of clones. ** @/JuiceBoxHero has done the ultimate evil and actually engaged in ''ethnic cleansing and genocide'' once in her Sims copy. Any Sim family with even a drop of alien/Pollination Technician blood in them was sent to die in horrible fires, in structures specifically made for the purpose. The children were not spared. Additionally, she went out of her way to kill pregnant Sims ''before'' the baby was born so as not to leave any trace of the filthy alien race behind. *** Sim Nazis. That's a new one on me. *** This troper did something a bit...less "cruel" with the alien situation. After seeing his MALE Sim get impregnated by aliens and then giving birth after that, this troper didn't want to raise a kid since I wanted to focus on just building up the husband and wife first. I dumped the baby out on the grass in the backyard and just let it sit there in its own poop and starving. To make sure that baby would suffer, I shut off the free will option so the couple would ignore it completely as they watched TV or had friends over. It took a good few days until the social worker finally got rid of the freak for me...with teleportation! ** In The Sims 2, this troper was experimenting with how early he could hake an orphan without the social services taking it away. He decided to take on of the results, keep it alive (blocking the second floor so he couldn't escape the ghosts), killing off anyone who got

too high a relationship rating (with the exception of one female, who died soon after they were married) and making him the ButtMonkey of the game. Ironically, he's probably the most well-adjusted Sim in the neighborhood, aside from a tendency toward nervous breakdowns. ** This troper makes large families and puts them all in 1x1 boxes until they starve to death. She repeats this for awhile, then creates a large 2-story house. All the graves go on the first floor and she moves a new family onto the second floor, cut off from all civilization except each other and the many corpses and ghosts inhabiting the lower level. ** Try making a family resembling people you detest. Now kill them horrifically. Lock them in a tiny house with no running water and a stove prone to fires, make them fight and work 'til they drop. Whether or whether not you eventually do mercy killings is up to you. Virtual Voodoo Dolls: Yet another cruel and unintentional use of the Sims. ** This troper made families of all the people she hated, then built a single 5x5 room filled with living room furniture. No toilets, no fridges, just living room furniture. She would only add rooms containing other necessities (bedroom furniture, kitchen furniture, bathroom furniture, etc.) ''after'' each family member died. The last one standing would have to be haunted by the rest of the family. It doesn't end there, oh no. I deleted all of the doors that led outside, leaving the last one to die in their own filth. ** This troper isn't that cruel but I do do some "things" on the Sims 3 that arent considered "normal". I just used cheats to make all other family members die of old age of someone, get her pregnant until her family is full, set her money to 0 (using cheats), and watched the results which, needless to say, proved satisfying. ** This troper remembers a Sims 3 game that pretty much proves why she doesn't deserve to be a god. Ever. First, there was "Sad Bunny", her first and favorite Sim. The name... it's a long story. She then proceeds to marry a guy named Ezra, who was very ugly. And then left him on a treadmill in the gym for days so that he would lose a lot of weight. After the two Sims had a really ugly kid, Sad proceeded to have an affair. With the maid. They resurrect and adopt several ghost children as their own (the maid stole a bunch of tombstones), Ezra dies of depression, and Scout (the first kid) becomes an Emperor of Evil. And that was just the beginning... ** You all lack the proper imagination for ''real'' cruelty. Try doing all of this stuff to them after giving them happy and fulfilling lives. And then you watch them break in the most heartwrending ways possible. It is ''glorious''. ** Perhaps not all that cruel, but this troper will lock up his sims until they really have to pee, then release them...where the only toilet is at the center of a house designed in the shape of a giant spiral. Watching them run round and round is just so funny. ** In Sims 3 [[TurboPunz This Troper]] took the horible "death by starvation/exasution" to a new level. I first created 2 sims, one red with enourmous features spread as far apart on his face as possible, one blue with tiny features scrunched together, assuming they'd have normal kids. Nope. Following that, I stuck them all in a house in individual rooms, but kept the kids alive just long enough to have

them age up and gain a (dysfunctional) trait. I them personalized the rooms so that each of them was living in their own personal hell, unable to die. ** Sims in 3 can live on one juice box every 2 and a half days. And nothing else. ** I know a guy who made a Sim hydrophobic in 3. He then turned every hallway into an indoor pool. Come to think of it, I'm fairly certain I'm the one who suggested it... ** This troper once staged a "cult suicide" in the original Sims. I created an entire neighborhood, used the NPC editor to put them all in the same clothes (white shirt, blue tie, blue slacks for the men, white blouse, black skirt for the women -- it was as close as i could get.) For the original Sims, one of the user-made things you could download was a teleporter that would bring all sims from the entire neighborhood to one lot. I used that to bring all of my similarlydressed sims to the same lot, which had a large one-room structure on it, filled with carpets, straw furniture and paintings: all your good flammable stuff. Once the entire room was filled with the members of the "cult," I went into buy mode, bought a fireworks launcher, and put it into the middle of the room. For those who don't know, the fireworks launcher was a device that would start a fire if a sim used it indoors. Then, all I had to do was wait until a sim, wanting fun, lit the fuse on firework, and the rocket came back to earth in this room full of flammable furniture and rugs, and panicky sims all dressed alike. * This troper was particularly entertained by an optional quest on Nar Shadda in KnightsOfTheOldRepublic 2 that actually requires you to kill off a couple of random mooks (netting you dark side points) while they are backing down, unless you have a very low Intimidate check. * In ''Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis'' this troper would load a very large park, delete every single building and fence and watch as the tourists are killed by dinosaurs, die of dehydration, starvation and exhaustion. Just like in the movies =D. ** This troper will take the jeep on missions and run over the smaller dinosaurs, killing them instead of completing the missions. * The first thing this troper discovered through playing ''Fallout 2'' was that he was a [[CompleteMonster horrible, horrible person]]. I managed to avoid the Child Killer achievement only by a technicality, and on at least one occasion maimed a little kid with a shiv. With a called shot [[EyeScream to the eyes]]. ** Children in ''Fallout 2'' have very few hit points, but it's possible to keep them alive under prolonged assault if you save to avoid too high damage and keep enough stimpacks around to draw out their agony. As such, it is perfectly possible to systematically cripple a child's limbs with unarmed called shots, followed by blinding him with a hit to the eyes, leaving the kid a broken, useless wreck desperately limping a single square a turn to escape you. Best to leave them alive after that, avoiding the Child Killer perk and enacting your own kiddie version of [[PrincessBride "To the Pain."]] This is not theoretical; this troper was getting very tired of being pick-pocketed in the Den. *** I WILL NEVER. SLEEP. AGAIN.

*** This troper's off to buy Fallout. * Back when I was borrowing GrandTheftAuto: Vice City, I used to jack a car, and just run over every single person I came across, all while listening to the [[SoundtrackDissonance New Wave station]]. "Keep feeling fascination...passion burning...love so strong..." When the paramedics came, I'd ''run them over'', and jack the ambulance, and continue to run people over. I'd go and find the flamethrower, head to the mall, camp around the food stands, and then torch the hell out of anyone who came near. Police would show up and I'd just move left to right, creating a wall of fire, and the cops were dumb enough to run right into the flames. Missions? What are those? *** The troper who posted the previous statements now remembers picking up hookers, and then beating them to death with the baseball bat to get the money back. But everyone probably does that.....right...? And then there was the "park any car in any place where there's a large number of people and then shoot the car until it goes explodey and maims/kills anyone caught in said explosion". Methinks this troper in actuality is a [[CompleteMonster truly madly deeply horrible person]]... **** Speaking of hookers, I (a different guy from the above) have a fun game to play in San Andreas. I pick up a hooker in whatever car I happen to be in when the whim takes me. I then turn on the "Cars Fly" code and take off. Once I reach the highest altitude, I bail out and let the car fall while I gently waft toward the ground with the only parachute in that particular Gremlin. **** Hookers are great fun in that game, early morning sadism has seen me put the maximum sex appeal cheat on, swim a little way out into the ocean and watch them run into the sea - drown - and then swim through the corpses collecting their money, and pick one up, drive her out to the big ear and drop her off, count to 15 and then hunt her down with a chainsaw... And just the genral sawn off shotgun rampage. I'm a good person. ** This troper is a total sadist on Grand Theft Auto 4. There was the time he shot a hotdog salesman painfully at point blank range, giggling 'you make our nation's children fat, and now you're dead!'. There's his habit of referring to pedestrians as 'nature's brakes', his rampage inside a hospital, blowing up patients inside their bed and gunning down everyone in the waiting room, buying a soda, and saying 'they'll be fine, they're in hospital.'. And then there was the time he shot someone in the legs with a shotgun to cripple them, ran them over with their own car, while protesting to his friend who was in the room that 'I am not a psychopath!' ** Do one of the special jumps that gets much needed ''Grand Theft'' cash...and land on a pedestrian. Bonus if the pedestrian also has cash you can steal. ** Many ''Vice City'' aspects allows one to build roadblocks before a mission start. And or just spam bazooka shells into the opponents. Mission win! With some of the races, you can kill all your opponents and take your time completing it. You still get the cash. ** This troper spends quite a lot of time just beating pedestrians up, even continuing to do so when they've already carked it. And then waits for the ambulance to show up so that the paramedics can get a

beatdown too. Surely that's only a step or two away from being [[CompleteMonster excommunicated]]? ** One favorite activity of this troper is running into bystanders at full-pelt to send them sprawling to the ground, then continuously walking/running on them as they try to get up (if done long enough, this ''actually kills them''). At one point Roman called, so I'm standing on this poor guy struggling to get up while casually accepting Roman's invitation to go play pool. ** I guess the GTA series is perfect for sadistic maniacs like us. Here are two of my personal favourites from San Andreas: Get a motorbike and start driving on the sidewalks. Try hitting people straight from behind, else they run away. This way though, they will fly straight up into the air and then smash on the pavement. Another good thing are the remote-detonated bombs you get at some point. Those latch onto anything they hit. Even people. While average pedestrians will panic when you do this, cops won't, in conjuction with the "never wanted" cheat, you will be able to attach as many bombs to them as you want. And then blow them up. Anywhere they go. ** This troper had a special spot in [=GTA3=] where pedestrians walk near the water. So he pushed a car into the water and blew it up. The peds, horrified, ran over to look at the burning car, fell into the water and drowned, horrifying the onlookers that didn't see the explosion. Said onlookers rushed over, fell in the water and drowned, horrifying the other onlookers... *** Also in [=GTA3=], This Troper much enjoyed using the cheats to give the pedestrians wepons and make them riot. Cue some kind of postapocalyptic city...and some pedestrians who are an uncannily good shot with a grenade launcher. * A group of my frat brothers and I used to play a game called "Let's Kill Roman!" where we would find interesting ways to off Roman, which includes flying to the top of the MetLife Building and knocking him off of the roof with a baseball bat and ramping motorcycles with Roman on the back while holding a grenade. * ''Perfect Dark 64''. Something just seems wrong with taking a man's gun, intimidating him into surrendering and blowing his chest in. With his own gun. Doesn't stop me from doing it. ** Doesn't stop this troper from [[GroinAttack aiming a bit lower.]] Or completely disfiguring the poor bastard with an explosive Phoenix round to the face. * ''The Force Unleashed''. Beating a Stormtrooper to death with another Stormtrooper is pure awesome. ** No, no, crushing legions with a TIE fighter is awesome. ** You're both wrong. Snapping the necks of impaled Jawas is awesome. ---> Many would consider that a [[MercyKill kind service]], but hey, your call... ** I like to dangle my enemies over a ''very'' long drop and wait to let them go until they've run out of things to scream. The best part? ''The game gives bonus points for doing so''. That's a sign that the developers really grasped the nature of TheDarkSide. ** @/{{BigBlackOtaku}} enjoys grabbing stormtroopers and either bouncing them on the ceiling or ground like a basketball. ** [[@/{{Dallenson}} This one]] Played Through [[{{Dark forces Saga}}

Jedi academy]] as [[{{Legend of zelda}} Link]], And he always Focused on Grip, and Heal. He lost count on how many cultist's and Remnants He threw down Pits or into a Hazard ** I like to half-choke the opponent then send them flying into a heap among a bunch of crates. ** I like to play "catch" with enemies in open air levels like the garbage planet, tossing them straight up and seeing if I can catch them before they go splat. Then I tried it on a Jawa. Ever force throw a Jawa straight up? It ''doesn't come down!'' ** Rather than simply throwing or choking enemies, I always preferred going PsychoElectro on their asses. There's something so ''satisfying'' about turning stormtroopers into living missiles that explode in to force Lightning when you send them flying back into their comrades...while adding [[MoreDakka MORE Force Lightning]] for good measure. ** Death Star level: What happens when you throw a Stormtrooper into the superlaser corridor while the laser is firing? [[MortalKombat TOASTY!]] Not to mention this troper had a devilish smile when he heard that the sequel will allow you to ''MindRape'' enemies. * There's a real sense of... something in possessing guards and leaping to their death in ''Second Sight''. Not as much fun as possessing a guard, shooting another 'fellow' guard, cancelling the possession, and hearing from your safe hiding place shouts of "Traitor!" and gunfire. * In playing the Dark Brotherhood missions in [[TheElderScrolls Elder Scrolls: Oblivion]], I discovered the delight of taking all of Lucien Lachance's poisoned apples, going to a watch tower in the Imperial City, and replacing all of the normal food with said apples when there aren't any guards present. After that, just wait a few in-game hours for the guards to start taking meal breaks, and you're treated to seeing them all commit suicide via poison. With no bounty placed on your own head (though your murder counter doesn't go up, either). And then you're free to legally pillage the corpses for their armor, money, and keys. ** Of course, I have now one-upped myself. I am currently playing a character who is being raised up through all four guilds, while systematically eliminating every unnecessary NPC in the world. This usually presents itself as me completing a quest, then killing the quest-giver and everyone else related to the quest afterward. Especially fun was Glarthir's quest, where I milk him for every last piece of gold, kill everyone he tells me to, then kill him right after he proclaims he's "free" of the conspiracy. ** I prefer to just sneak up to some nice, concentrated bunch of people (enemies or just hapless shmucks, though if its the latter I'll probably reload after I've [[CatharsisFactor gotten it out of my system]]), launch a high-powered Frenzy spell at them, then just sit back and watch the fireworks. ** Do you use mods? Because if you do, congratulations, you have just discovered an infinite amount of ways in which you can torture and kill people for fun, including [[http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14159 liquifying their flesh]], [[http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9562 turning

them into zombies]], [[http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8273 throat slitting, back stabbing, decapitation and chopping in half]], [[http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10183 turning them into cabbages and yarns]]... Heck, there is even a mod called AT Prison that puts you in charge of a {{Hostel}} style prison where you can freely kidnap people and torture them in ways inlcuding: burning alive, put in a pool with huge man eating fish, electrocution, gas, put into cages which is lowered into lava, crushing, impaling on spikes, put in a lion pit, chopped by ''huge'' blades, shoved down pitch black abysses, and even sucking their souls out... ** This troper remembers an instance in the Shivering Isles, where he was asked to grant death to an NPC who was too scared to do it himself. I gladly obliged. Then I remembered I had the Staff of Worms, and spent what felt like an hour of resurrecting and killing the poor man. It was FUN. *** Level 3 Breton battlemage (equal parts battle-axe swinging and fireball throwing) vs. the town guard and citizens of Bravil. Winner: Breton. * This troper doesn't understand why people find the [[HalfLife headcrab zombies']] screams horrifying, and sets them on fire every chance he gets... because he finds it hilarious. And yes, he has listened to the voice clips backwards. ** YABBA! MY ICCCINNNNNGGGGGG * This troper goes out of her way to drop beehives on guards in [[MetalGearSolid Snake Eater]] ** This other troper is particularly fond of sedating a snake, then throwing it on an unsuspecting enemy (or boss!) and watching as the HilarityEnsues. ** There's a TON of fun to be had killing [[{{Mook}} guards]] in creative ways in [=MGS3=]. Throwing poisonous animals on soldiers, knocking them out and then dropping them off cliffs, drowning them in quicksand, throwing them into electric fences or even springing their own traps and tripwires on them. The best part? ''None of these methods counts'' when it comes to your endgame "kill" count. You can kill [[HeroicSociopath every single guard in the game]] and still end up with a zero kill count because none of your methods were "direct." *** This can be done in MGS: Peace Walker as well. Trying to S-rank the vehicle missions, but you don't have enough fulton recovery devices to non-lethally dispose of all the guards? Grab one of them and CQC-throw him directly under the treads of the tank he's escorting. Enjoy your S-rank as his skull is crushed to a pulp and he screams in horrified agony... hey, you didn't kill him, the tank did! ** MGS 3 is the best in the series for straight-up torture. Once you get the stealth in Hard or Extreme difficulty, the mooks are quite resilient, so you can really go to town. One favourite pastime is to go to an area where there are several guards in an enclosed space, like Bolshaya Past Base. Destroy the ammo dump so the guards won't have infinite ammo. Destroy their radios so they can't call backup. Then, drug them and cripple them by shooting their knees, ankes and wrists. They will hobble around pathetically like zombies, reduced to using their pistols because rifles can be ''so'' unwieldy when one's

hands have been shot to ribbons by an invisible psychopath. Once they've all been given 'the treatment', you can dispense with the stealth camo and play your own Zombie Survival minigame! When they finally run out of ammo, they'll come at you with just their knives. * Watching hamstrung guards try to hobble away from a white phosphorous grenade can be horrifying. Until you remember what you had to go through to get the stealth camo and the infinity paint. * This troper plays the ''Pop'n Music'' song "Days" to watch its character, [[HotLibrarian Michel]], repeatedly get hit with books, and then get knocked out by a pile of those at the end. (A song's character does his/her/its damage animation whenever you hit notes.) Which is ironic, because Michel is his favorite character. Something about stress relief, he guesses. Similarly, he plays "[=SigSig=]" and makes its character, a [[TheCutie really cute]] loli who continuously runs in place, trip over and over, before tripping over one last time and [[TheWoobie crying]] at the end. * One of the only reasons this troper plays the original ''Army Men'' game is to set soldiers on fire and watch them scream and melt. And to run them over with tanks. And toss grenades onto barrels of oil. And light forest fires. And send my own squad into a minefield. And use every form of overkill for everything. Given the cruelty potential for this game, I'm surprised so many people hated it so much. * ''Punisher'' for the XBOX has cruelty potential built right in. There are special torture areas where one can threaten mooks until they spill valuable (or not so valuable) information about the current scenario. Slamming a window into their face, tossing them off a building, curb-stomping...dozens of scenarios. Whenever you are done questioning a captured mook, you have many options. Knocking them out, a shot to the back of the head, or just going full out and feeding them into the specialized trap. They scream in terror because, since they spilled the info, they think they will live. The pirahnas in Central Park Zoo ate well tonight. As a bonus, if you turn a corner and run smack into a mook and you are fast enough, the Punisher will heft them into the air and blow a chunky hole through their spine. ** The clue's in the name. * This troper loves running bad guys down with the tank in ''Goldeneye 007'' and hearing their screams as he squashes them flat. ** This troper just managed to get his N64 working again, and so took to enabling 'All Guns' and 'Invincibility' paired with 'Infinite Ammo'. He then had hours of fun aiming rocket launchers at the heads of guards after executing Natalya for being the annoying bitch she is. * This troper has found cruelty in ''World of Warcraft.'' While standing in Ironforge or Dalaran, when he sees someone spamming trade chat asking for just a little gold or silver (and by 'spamming,' this troper doesn't mean being creative with your begging or going five minutes between asking, but by using a macro to spam it non-stop every 15-to-45 seconds), he'll find the person, offer to give them a little bit more "to cover expenses," open trade with that person, put the money in the trade window...and just walk away. In [=WoW=], you can put items in the window for the other person to see, but you have to manually confirm the transaction. I've kept people hanging for upwards of 10 minutes, all the while with them begging and wondering if it's

lag that's stopping it from happening, but my ''Crowning Moment of Awesome'' was keeping one of our server's most notorious gold farmers in suspense for HALF AN HOUR (hey, I had to make a Wendy's run) before he/she called it quits. ** This troper's finest hour in Azeroth occurred at Tyr's Hand, back in the days the Chinese Gold Farmers were a permanent addition to the village. Having developed a bit of a grudge against them due to broken polymorphs and kiting, when one abruptly turned to me and asked for tons of bread in broken English, I demanded a few gold pieces. He/she agreed, and I patiently filled a bag with conjured bread and made the trade. Ten seconds later, I get a lot of angry /tells from someone who just spent 10 gold on level 5 bread. My other hobby was replying to their Mandarin with high school Spanish, leading one to ask if I was a member of a rival Japanese farmer cartel. <sigh> Those were the days... * In {{Bioshock}}, this troper managed to sneak up behind the insane female splicer crying over the very short coffin. I listened to the blubbering for about half a second, letting the raw emotion of the scene wash over me... and then I drew the pistol, took careful aim, and said, "I'm very sorry for your loss." BLAM! Headshot. ** For bonus points, sneak up behind her, recite ''the entirety'' of the how is babby formed response, ending with: I am truly sorry for your lots. ** Does it count if you were able to gleefully bludgeon the shit out of a splicer with a wrench while they cried "I just wanted someone to talk to" or "I'm just lonely"? ** What can you do with Little Sisters sobbing after you kill their protector? Wipe out your camera and snap pictures from every possible angle! * ''Lemmings''. If they're stupid enough to walk straight into traps,I'm allowed to laugh when they're torn to pieces by a gibbet. ** Seconded. ** Don't forget carefully timing [[strike: pointless]] explosions (crossed out because they serve no tactical purpose, but explosions are never pointless) so that the hapless little lemming explodes in midair. ** What? No ''Lemmings 2''? [[SenseiLeRoof I]] would take great enjoyment out of the "practice" mode. Three minutes, no game-imposed goals? I'd choose eight random skills, let the freaks survive for some hundred fifty seconds while screwing with the environment, then spend the last half minute letting my inner sadist into the candy shop. * This troper, in ''Fable 2'', was a pristine hero. He got everyone in Oakfield, the entire population, together in the bar, singing and dancing - and then unleashed a level 5 Inferno, slaughtering the entire town in one blast. * This troper is very fond of the things he can do to enemies in ''CallOfDuty: World At War'', whether it be watching foes writhe in agony as they burn to death, stabbing them in the heart with a bayonet at point-black, or blowing their heads clear off their shoulders with the anti-tank rifle. It helps that, in the Russian campaign, Sgt. Reznov seems to encourage such senseless slaughter. * This troper's first character in NeverWinterNights was a fighter

with the "recommended" stats--that is, with a penalty in charisma. She didn't realize at first that this would negatively affect interactions with [=NPCs=]. Upon entering a bar and having a random patron call her character ugly, she proceeded to attempt to slaughter the entire populace of said bar. Being only level 2, she failed. Miserably. ** This evil troper decided to take his Epic level cleric into the bar in the docks, picked a fight, and watched as nobody in the bar could hit his AC of 60. Then just for kicks and giggles I unleashed two hellballs (Epic level spell that does in the range of 40d6 damage to all in range) right in their faces. All of this with PVP settings set to hardcore. Barely dented my health-bar. Then I just simply walked away from the wreckage. Then again, I once emptied the entirety of Neverwinter, the lands surrounding it, and Luskan. The economy never recovered... * This troper discovered her inner monster while playing ''Nintendogs''. Sure, you can feed it and walk it and love it and all that, but sometimes that gets a little old. So you spice things up by oh say, not feeding or cleaning it for a week. Or ramming it repeatedly with a Mario Kart. Or "accidentally" tripping it up with the Jump Rope. Or scaring it with the toy military chopper (with "Flight of the Valkyries" as background music!). Or throwing a Moai Statue at it. Or ignoring it for hours on end and watching/listening to its shrill barking and whining as it wonders where you've gone to. And that's not even getting into the OTHER things this troper has done to her Nintendogs: the kind that'll change your dog's personality from a sweet-natured pup into an aggressive, snarling hellhound that bites you if you dare to pet it. ** Do tell all the other ways to "break" the puppy? >:] ** This troper's older brother is like a Nintendogs Torture God. What he likes to do is buy a fairly aggressive dog from the Kennel, send his other regular puppies to the hotel and then engage in a week of [[BreakTheCutie Break The Puppy]]. Starving them, not letting them sleep, leaving the DS running ALL NIGHT while the puppy is still awake and crying for him. He knows a puppy is becoming more Woobie-esque based on how long it takes until it runs away. And when he makes it come back? He throws that Moai statue at it for ten minutes! And when the dog has finally lost its aggressive streak, he abandons it at the Hotel and buys another one. I make it a point to never EVER let him near my Yorkies.... *** Has a Chinese guy ever asked you "[[{{Bioshock}} Would you kindly break the puppy's neck?]]", because that would certainly explain a few things. * When this Troper plays Chaos on DawnOfWar, the (extremely servile) Heretic builder unit says things like "My life is forfeit". When they do this, he turns on Forced Labour (which increases build speed at the cost of health) and leaves them to die, or sends them out to look for the enemy's (almost certainly well-defended) base. It rarely helps tactically, but considering that Chaos commanders tend towards the Darth Vader school of anger management... ** Also, DungeonKeeper. Upon finding, in one of the "sandbox" modes, an 'adventurer' fairy named Excrucia, he developed a [[FetishFuel slightly perverse]] obsession with breaking the will of fairies and

[[FaceHeelTurn turning them evil]]. ** Oh, and dropping goons off buildings in the SpiderMan movie game. And repeatedly shooting stormtroopers [[GroinAttack in the crotch]] in Battlefront. And attempting to personally wipe every [[StarCraft Zerg]] off the map in the final Brood War Protoss mission, just to watch them die...This troper is a true jackass outside of [=RPG=]s (which tend to be aversions). *** DwarfFortress has provided a new example; he captured a goblin wrestler in a cage trap, and it's right now chained in a dungeon, being left to rot. JustForFun, he's also set up a couple of [[DroppedABridgeOnHim bridge traps]] in other cells, so that if he decides to take one prisoner then needs the space, he can just splat them. **** A brief example of a design of a goblin death labyrinth: segments include the Mills of Armok (an unbelievably long wall of traps), the Road to the Hidden City (a spiralling region of unpleasantness in which a specific course must be followed to avoid the plummeting rocks), and Atomsmasher Square (four drawbridges arranged in a square, in order to drop heavily on goblin heads). In a different fortress, I'm capturing as many goblins as possible and putting them in an arena so that my elite dwarves can butcher them. Because I like to think I'm a fair person, I let them keep their weapons. Because I am not, in fact, a fair person, that's ''all'' I let them keep. Armour, shields, clothes, even undergarments - all end up flogged to passing merchants. * This troper discovered what a heartless witch she is in ''Virtual Villagers''. The game does want you to actually take care of the village. However, this troper was content to just let them wander aimlessly and starve, and every time they approached the food bin, berry bush or vegetable garden they would be dragged away. Children and nursing mothers were not spared. * In ''{{Portal}}'' Room 16, this troper carried each and every turret to the end-of-level disintegrator field. There is indeed an android hell, and I'm the grim reaper. ** Just the Turrets? This Troper takes it one step further: after disabling all the Turrets, I portal them all into the hallway that ends the test chamber. Then I go back and portal in not just the Storage Cubes, but all the crap in the RoomFullOfCrazy. And the security cameras. This leaves a huge pile of crap in front of the fizzler. Open an Orange Portal right above and parallel to the fizzler, then start firing Blue Portals under the crap. HilarityEnsues as you hear the Turret Death Sound overlap. As well as causing graphics lags. *** I do this, every single time. But how is this not [[VideoGameCaringPotential Video Game Caring Potential]]? It's a Matter ''Emancipation'' Grid! Matter was meant to be ''free''! * Despite the [[VideogameCrueltyPunishment Jusitfied]] [[ThatOneBoss Punish]][[ScrappyLevel ment]] for doing it, [[@/AirshipCanon this troper]], loves [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_RYTLF_yR0&fmt=18 to Destroy Cradle 03]] on ''[[ArmoredCore Armored Core For Answer]]''. ** Also, while playing ''AlphaCentauri'', using [[EarthShatteringKaboom Singularity Planet Busters]] to destroy enemy Colony Pods is a very satisfying thing. Or getting Hunter/Seeker, then

using Probe Teams to destroy all of the Pressure Domes of enemy cities, and forcing the passing of "Melt Polar Ice Caps" several times, all while drilling [[AC: MORE BOREHOLES]], thus filling the Planet with [[AC: [[MemeticMutation SEA]] [[TalesOfSymphonia WATER]]]], causing everyone else to drown. *** Holy shit, I thought I had the SMAC cruelty [[IncrediblyLamePun market cornered]] when I surrounded the other factions' islands (on an 80%ish water map, while playing Pirates) with missile subs packing fungal and conventional missiles, blasted their ecologies to shit and watched gleefully as Mind Worms tore up the defenders and were then cheerfully exterminated at range so my Scout Patrols could march in and take over everything. However the [[MemeticMutation Kill It With Water]] approach did not occur to me, and therefore I was [[JustForPun clearly]] doing it wrong. ** And another "cruel" thing this troper likes doing is making [[TalesOfSymphonia Emil C.]]'s life terrible (which scores bonus points, by eventually making Marta L.'s life horrible as well): You will be pledging allegiance to Lloyd, Emil- and then you'll be stopping Marta, running in and out of the Fire Temple (and losing a core!), [[[spoiler: picking the real Lloyd during the SpotTheImposter event]], getting fried by Lightning in the Lightning Temple (No Core for You!), and most of the time I'll go for the NonstandardGameOver, and get the BAD END, because it's that SATISFYING (mostly because, at least in this troper's mind Emil and Marta are TheScrappy.) *** Seconded, but just because Marta is my [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] and I don't like happy endings either (besides the NonstandardGameOver of the game feeds my YaoiFangirl-ism). ** And in another act of Bastardy, despite [[TheHero Celice]] saying he doesn't like [[MysteriousWaif Yuria]] in that way, while playing [[FireEmblem FE4]], this troper will always pair them up, completely ignoring the plot torpedo in a later chapter. Alright, so that's not so bad (In fact, it may be VideogameCaringPotential considering a few issues), but at the same time I also have a [[DemonicSpider Berserk Staff]]-- which for kicks I'll sell, have her buy it... then she'll cause him to MurderTheHypotenuse on the final level. Or, I'll use the Berserk Staff and have the "[[MyCountryRightOrWrong My Love Right Or Wrong]]" [[ThatOneBoss Ishtar]] kill her fiancee (and FinalBoss / BigBad) Yurius. Then, with her still alive, I'll proceed to clear the map-- [[DrivenToSuicide which]] [[strike: [[DrivenToSuicide effectively]]]] [[DrivenToSuicide is implied to cause]][[strike:[[DrivenToSuicide s]]]] [[DrivenToSuicide her to commit suicide]]. Fun times. Fun times. * In ''FinalFantasyX2'', you are supposed to catch chocobos in battle, and they will run away if attacked. However, if you're fast enough, and can do enough damage in one hit, it is possible to kill them. Yelling "AndThisIsFor [[FinalFantasyVII Knights of the Round!]]" optional, of course. * This troper loves killing bad guys with {{Molotov Cocktail}}s in ''MaxPayne'', simply because they give out such satisfying screams. * Spider-Man games... does there exist a single person who doesn't find great enjoyment in flinging people off the top of skyscrapers, then jumping after them to watch them go splat?

* Recent acquisition of the Stealth Camo in [=MGS3=] has allowed Tropers/ARandomSerf to take great advantage of unsuspecting guards, e.g. punching them in the face repeatedly while they look around frantically, making sniper headshots (and [[GroinAttack nutshots]]) at point-blank range, using the sound of my footsteps to lure guards over to ExplodingBarrels, and planting TNT on every guard and scientist in a building, retreating to an isolated room, hitting Circle, and listening to the screams. My favorite bit of bastardry so far has probably been letting myself be seen in Groznyi Grad, causing Ivan to flee into the bathroom...where I had previously planted no less than 16 sticks of TNT. ** Why did I never think of that? You, my friend, are a bloody genius (and I mean bloody as in you are probably covered in it)! * @/PurplePantherGirl gets her kicks from ZooTycoon 2. She creates a huge (closed) zoo and then lets meat-eaters loose with the herbivores, providing only water and vegetarian food. BWA HA HA HA HAAA. * This Troper just got a copy of 'SWAT 4'. He has named his character in the campaign mode "Sgt. Osborn". As in Norman 'The Green Goblin' Osborn, the current director of SHIELD/HAMMER. This tells you ''exactly'' how much respect for proper law enforcement procedure, human life, and basic common decency he intends to go through the scenarios with. But hey, on the easy setting you can advance to the next stage even if you score zero points, so all this troper has to do is avoid hitting any of the hostages and he can be as sick and twisted as he wants on the suspects. Taser gun... check. Pepper spray, check. Stingball grenades, check. Eventually executing them after they're down and handcuffed, check... current personal worst, -415 points for murdering fifteen hostages and nineteen illegal uses of lethal force vs. suspects. ** You can also order your bots to use the taser on already handcuffed suspects... or civilians. * In SpyroTheDragon, you gain health by killing some of the cute, defenseless animals that are running around in every stage, like fluffy sheep, rabbits, and frogs. This troper would revel in evil, heartless glee as she found various ways to kill them in every way possible, including getting a fire-breath powerup and make them bounce off things (or even better, bounce off things ''twice'' and then land in water. Ten points!) This did come back to bite her in the backside later ... now that she had become used to killing innocent livestock, she once played a Zelda game for the first time and spotted some cuccos. We all know what came next. She's still deeply traumatised by the experience. (''* sob* '') *** When I got bored I started a rampage of bunny and sheep genocide. I almost peed myself of laughing when hearing the poor little animals cryings, but mostly at how the sheeps bounced when I headbashed them and the bunnie's cries. I used the fire-breath powerup too, but using the headbashing was my favourite. * Everyone who has played a ''{{Fallout}}'' game has engaged in the guilty pleasure of exterminating all life in the various towns and settlements. My favorite little challenge has been sneaking up to the hidden sniper's perch in Megaton and perfecting Confessor Cromwell's unceremonious assassination. There is no greater glory than dividing a

child of atom with the Reservist's Rifle. After that I usually drop a few mini-nukes on the populace and then go door to door immolating them with the Burnmaster. ** I depopulated Megaton with a hunting rifle. Since I blew Mr. Burke apart with [[LudicrousGibs Bloody]] [[ChunkySalsaRule Mess]], I couldn't destroy the town (I didn't talk to him first), so I defused the bomb. The only occupants left alive were the two children, one of whom thanked me [[CompletelyMissingThePoint for defusing the bomb]]. * This editor sent the villagers in his sister's town in ''AnimalCrossing'' "crank letters." One of them was an insulting letter calling the recipient a smelly dog who doesn't wash her hands after using the toilet. He also runs over his sister's carefully arranged flower beds and pushed a sleeping villager into a pitfall. He ''reset the game'' quite a few times. And most unspeakably, he ''hit a villager with a net until she cried''. [[PokeThePoodle Eat your freakin' heart out,]] [[SuperMarioBros Bowser.]] ** Hitting an animal 'til they cry is good, but we want great. Add a pitfall to that and you have something. ** In our town, the cruelty potential was against each other, mostly. Everything went downhill after we got signs. People wrote out intimidation messages, threatened shakedowns, cast crude aspersions, and otherwise harassed each other day in, day out. Out of game we traded bells for real world favors and housework, so there was even racketeering going on. The finest effort, however, would have been the guy who got the first shovel on offer, and then attempted to dig a ditch around the entire set of houses, before selling the shovel for an extortionate price. Sadly for him, that tactic doesn't actually work. However, the one guy who kept on fishing up the coelacanths and proudly displayed them in his home, setting gloating messages on the town notice board about refusing to donate even one to the museum got some points for it. *** In hindsight we really made our town a living hell for everyone. * In ''Lords of the Realm 2'', this Troper's favorite tactic is to send small peasant armies to destroy his enemy's fields used for crops or cows (basically food). He also doesn't care if the army survives long enough to destroy two fields, as long as they destroy something. He also doesn't capture the territory those fields are in, why? Because hungry people will revolt and that's not a good thing when you own the land. So how is this cruel? ** The enemy slowly loses his/her ability to wage war against you (fields take forever to reclaim) ** You send your own peasants (they're practically cannon fodder) to destroy fields and die if someone finds them. This is done because you don't have to use your resources or weapons to arm them and it controls your land's population (1500 seems to be the maximum manageable population, after that, food becomes an issue) ** The poor saps in the county you pick on go hungry for the rest of the game (because it's not worth trying to keep it). * One of this troper's friends had ''JFK Reloaded''. Suffice to say that shooting guns out of cops' hands (taking a fair amount of hand with them) was the ''least'' horrific thing they devised. * This troper loves the [[NancyDrew Nancy Drew]] games for the

adventure, the puzzles... and the hilarious ways of killing off Nancy, or otherwise getting her fired. Once in a while, there is a death that [[NightmareFuel is genuinely frightening for this troper]]; the rest of the time, it's funny to watch Nancy die of food poisoning (among other things). ** So I'm not the only one who laughs at the various deaths of Nancy Drew! I remember osmeone on Youtube was doing a let's play of it, and decided to make a sandwich. "Hmmm....Tomatoes...mayonnaise...Ice cream...Jellyfish..." * eats sandwich* "oooooh...suddenly I don't feel so goooood!" And let's not forget putting ''everything available'' on the sandwich and giving it to Nancy's aunt! * In ''{{Prototype}}'', this troper killed a tank... by throwing civilians at it. ** Also, there's an endless amount of fun (not to mention poetic justice) inherent to disguising yourself as a Marine and then accusing Blackwatch soldiers of being Mercer. ** Amateurs. Try grabbing a civilian, running up to the top of a very tall building, lightly pitching him off, jump-kicking after him, bodysurfing him to the ground and flipping his body at another civilian. ** This troper would just grab a civilian, then chain jump into the water. Closest thing I've got to waterboarding in that game. Also, eating a civilian, then going around and selectively murdering everyone with the same character model I can find like some weird serial killing doppleganger. * This Troper recently started a vampire playthrough of [[TheElderScrolls Morrowind]]. Like any sensible vampire playthrough he is using the Vampire Embrace mod (allows you to create spawn and prevents being a vampire from locking you out of 99.9% of the game.). One quest in the original Morrowind has you attempt to convince a son (on behalf of his mother) that being a vampire will not make his dreams come true. For the lulz I made a temp save file and convinced the son to become a spawn, next I made his mother into a follower and have her son drink her dry! ** More Vampire hijinks! With the 'children of Morrowind' mod you can create spawns from teenagers (it's mentioned in the readme and heads for vampire teens are included, so it's intended to some degree). What wasn't intentional was 1. drinking the blood of children under the age of 13 (pretty good source of blood actually, as they are immortal and can't be overdrawn). 2.having your spawn feed on said children. And if you tell them to devour the food, they break the children's normal immortality. * In ''Majora's Mask,'' there is a short sidequest where a thief steals an old woman's bomb shipment. The game wants you to either let the thief escape with the shipment (thereby opening up other sidequests), or help the old woman by giving the thief a good slash with the sword. However, I have taken immense and entirely unnecessary pleasure at the discovery of [[TakeAThirdOption a third option]]. Rather than slash him with the sword, shoot him with an arrow - the bomb shipment will ''explode,'' taking the thief with it. Not only do you ''murder'' an innocent NPC, but the woman still loses her shipment! And because of the game's ResetButton mechanic, you can do

it over and over again! * In ''{{Maniac Mansion}}'', this troper always ended up giggling uncontrollably whenever the titular mansion blew up. I must have destroyed that house a hundred times, just {{For the Evulz}}. I also enjoyed screwing with Dr. Fred by repeatedly draining the pool and turning off the circuit breakers in the basement just to watch him shit his pants in fear and run around like a chicken with its head cut off as he tries to stop the impending meltdown. * In ''DeusEx'', I tried to be a good agent, taking down guards with the baton, only occasionally throwing their unconscious bodies in the river. Then, after switching sides, something snapped in me. I was using less Gas Grenades and more LAMs, I was blowing away people with the pistol instead of using the tranq, but I drew the line at murdering civilians. Then I got the Dragon's Tooth. I started with killing everyone in Wan Chai, massacring the Underworld Tavern, killing Maggie Chow in cold blood. I do not intend to stop. Paris shall die. ** Wan Chai is where I lose it, too. Though, usually it happens the minute I get there. I block off the entrance to the Lucky Money, grab a flamethrower (since by then I have more napalm than I can carry) and... well, let's just say the resulting heap of smoldering corpses is big enough to write out the Declaration of Indepedence. * ''Gun'' is my favorite game, mainly because almost EVERYONE in the game that isn't useful to the plot or side missions is cannon fodder. My favorite tactic is to shoot dynamite arrows into the windows of the Alahamra, then shoot people coming out. Oh, did I mention the game gives you the option of scalping people that aren't quite dead yet? * During the time when the original Halo was popularly played (and when you were allowed to like it), this troper caught someone teabagging with a sniper-rifle. In a once-in-a-million opportunity...he fired the sniper rifle and got the dude ''right in the crotch''. He said "You're half a man now dog!" * This Troper and her boyfriend once had the following conversation on GaiaOnline about the MMO zOMG: -->This Troper: So, wanna go play zOMG? -->Boyfriend: Sure! Wanna learn about cow-tipping? -->This Troper: What? How cruel is that? How would you like it if I flipped you out of bed... Aw, heck, how does one go about tipping cows? * In ''FinalFantasyTactics'', this troper killed and crystallized the [[WhiteMagic white mage]] generic he had since the beginning solely because she was no longer used since Orlandu and Beowulf joined, and so Beowulf could instantly learn her white magic. * Averted with @/DickRichardson - Or subverted, he doesn't care. I do nasty, evil, terrible things... to the bad guys. Like crippling the Raider's limbs in any of the ''Fallout'' games and slashing them to death slowly. Or burning the slavers alive. Or sucking the life out of the gangsters in ''inFAMOUS''. Or disarming the targets in ''{{Hitman}}: Blood Money'' and shooting them in the legs until they die as they beg pathetically for their worthless lives. Or going through ''Call of Duty: World at War'' with just a flamethrower and teabagging the dying Japanese soldiers as they burn. Or doing the

Brown Thunder missions in Vice City and San Andreas, and take out my rage on the fleeing criminals and enjoy seeing them blow apart. (Yeah, he's the type that doesn't maim whole crowds) Or, in DwarfFortress, ripping apart Goblin towers and "rescuing" the children with goblin bones, and slaughtering evil towns (he actually modded in dark dwarves and other similar evil creatures, just to blow them apart). Yeah, he may be a goody-two-shoes pussy, but that doesn't mean he'll still make deaths as painful as possible. * In TwistedMetal 2, me and my cousin kill the guy standing by the pool, watch him fall in, then wait for him to respawn. ** I love playing BloodRayne. There is nothing better on a bad day then going on an unstoppable rampage. * This troper plays ''{{Fable}} II'' and has twice gone on a rampage. Once he decided to, just for fun, kill a random townsperson. They then called the guards, sparking a fight that had me killing every guard that tried to stop me. The second time was when I was in Bloodstone and started killing people inside the tavern. I ran outside and cast Raise Dead and Blades, enjoying watching people be impaled. I got the Paragon achievement for being completely evil, which wasn't the way I'd wanted to earn it. I didn't save the game either time. In ''Halo 2'', I also enjoyed killing Marines sometimes. * @/AXavierB loves torturing his creations in ''The Sims Bustin' Out''. Most of the time, he sets their houses up to look like medieval sanctuaries, and he individually grooms each Sim as a "sacrifice", picking them off one-by-one. Usually the sacrifice consists of trapping a Sim in a room and setting it ablaze, or putting a Sim in a chamber with a starving mutant plant and taking out the doors. ** The only Sims game I have is Bustin' Out for the PS2 (I've been meaning to get Sims 3, but Bioshock 2 lured me away). Anyway, I was having a party (I assure you it was for mission purposes only, I wasn't just fucking off) and decided to talk to some of the people I hadn't really gotten to know. For some reason I can't remember an old woman pissed me off. So I locked her in a small 3X3 room that was one of the bathroom stalls (I got sick of having to clean up puddles since all 3 sims ALWAYS had to go at the same time), took everything out of the room, and left her to drown in her urine puddles. I eventually had to open the wall though since it got kinda creepy having the Grim Reaper hanging around in your bathroom. *** (From the same guy) Another incident of psycopathy was when I moved a family in, killed the parents in front of the kids, then isolated the children so that they could only watch each other die in agony. I've also immolated enough sims to officially be considered the Hitler of Bustin Out (I'm trying to initiate the apocalypse in Sim City IV, but it's a bit harder). * @/{{Cobrafire}}'s experience with ''[[{{Fallout}} Fallout 3]]'' can be summed up in four words: [[{{BFG}} Fat Man]], populated town. And even though I'm currently playing an Evil character, I chose ''not'' to blow up Megaton on the grounds that it was too '''easy''' of a way to being Evil and did it the Old-Fashioned way: random murder and cannibalism. * Once upon a time in ''EverQuest'', it was possible to buff not only players but [=NPCs=] - including mobs. An enterprising druid could,

for example, head to a starting zone and give armour buffs, damage shields and faster run speed to [[HilarityEnsues the low-level orcs intended as leveling fodder for baby elf characters.]] This was, however, considered griefing and (rightly so) a bannable offense. ...didn't make it any less funny, though. * In ''{{Spore}}'''s Creature Stage, I will often murder an entire nest of creatures, leaving nobody exept one baby. I will then attack it until its HP is down to just one. ''Then'', I chase them for a while, enjoying their [[{{TheWoobie}} cries of terror and agony.]] Finally, I befriend them and gain their trust -- and then I devour them. Yes, I'm a jerk. ** Same troper has a tactic for ENDLESS fun with a species. After I only need one more kill to extinct them, I will befriend one -''resetting the counter'' and allowing near-infinite torture of the species when repeated. I accept my CompleteMonster status with pride. Did I mention that my creatures just LOVE to eat [[TrademarkFavoriteFood babies?]] * no mention of Okami? FOR SHAME. This troper delights in using the brush powers on civilians and animals, just to see what would happen. It's just as good at this as VideoGameCaringPotential. * This troper is too busy shooting the legs and arms of soldiers in ''[=MGS3=]'' to read the above examples. Although as soon as he accidently shoots a dog, he goes into extreme guilt. * Sometimes while playing ''{{Mass Effect}}'', this troper will let his party members get killed on purpose while staying out of the way. * I don't know if it counts, but I like to do all kinds of things on Dating Sim visual novels, including acting so promiscuous it would make Makoto look like an innocent little boy. I don't know what it is, but I like deconstructing the characters and leaving them sobbing wrecks. * ''SplinterCell: Chaos Theory''. Japanese bath house level. Sneak up behind someone, grab them, then render them unconscious. Then hide the body in the water. * This troper got his warthog stuck on the edge of a cliff in ''{{Halo}}'' but managed to escape. The thing was left teetering on the edge of the cliff and there was still a soldier on the mounted gun. I punch the car several times and then it finally tipped over the edge, falling into the abyss with the soldier screaming as he falls. * This troper has a raging hate-on for Scotland in ''Medieval II: Total War'' (and in real life, to an extent). It doesn't matter if I'm playing as the Egyptians or Turks, SCOTLAND MUST DIE. If I'm playing as England, I'll keep them around just to slaughter their armies. Occasionally I'll declare peace, give them large amounts of money so that they can build up their armies, then slaughter those armies to the last man. I'll get my spies infected with the plague, then spread it to their cities. Even their princesses are not safe from my assassins' blades. The Britannia Campaign in the Kingdoms expansion pack was an added bonus, as I now had the Welsh to beat up on, along with the Scots. ** This troper, on the other hand, ''loves'' Scotland, if only for their ''insane'' infantry charges. A wave of maybe a thousand or two of Highlanders rolling down a hill is so deeply satisfying. That being

said, I prefer to kill my enemies with siege equipment. Slowly. Steadily. [[KillItWithFire With fire, if possible.]] Smashing the enemy with Highlanders after demoralizing them with constant siege barrages is very... cathartic. Not to mention my hate-rage for Milan, so much so that I ended up smashing through all of France ''just'' to get at Milan. ** This troper makes a point of always destroying France as soon a possible in ''Empire: Total War''. Even if I'm playing as the (Indian) Maratha Confederacy. I think it may have something to do with my first campaign, as Britain. (Also, I agree: Milan in Medieval 2 is a total prick). * For @/MmmKay, I used to play the old ''Catz'' game (back when it was all 2D and stuff) and I'd just spray water all over my catz for no reason, also throwing them around like ragdolls, listening to their pained shrieks. "This is not 'torture-a-cat' game." my mother said to me. Really, I cry when my [[TheSims Sims]] die, I'm not a monster... really... [-really?-] ** Speaking of torture-a-cat games... [[http://www.burststudio.com/kitten.html this]] * @/AXavierB relishes FPS games that allow friendly fire. In the ''Halo'' games, he kills his men if they inconvenience him. Once, this troper took the passenger seat in a Warthog and let one of his NPC soldiers take the wheel. Said soldier drove around in circles for about five minutes. [[YourHeadAsplode Guess what happened]]~? * ''[[Left4Dead L4D2]]'', getting into a mild saferoom and keep the bots down and watch them slowly die. >:) * @/{{Crion87}} usually plays ''Fallout 3'' as a heroic character (as much as one can be in a Zeerust AfterTheEnd CrapsackWorld full of BlackAndGreyMorality), but to invoke this trope, he rolled up a character called Markus John. In the game, as Markus John, [[StartOfDarkness he first breaks into a ranch and kills]] [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Silver]]. Then, after going to Colin Moriarty's saloon in Megaton, after he fails to get information on James for free, Markus John kills Colin Moriarty by shooting him in the head. As he leaves, he stops by Mr. Burke, gets the Fusion Pulse Charge, and after some awesome jumping on rooftops of Megaton, [[AtomicHate he rigs the nuke in the centre of the town to explode]]. Getting run out of town by Lucas Simms, Markus makes his way to Tenpenny Tower, [[MoralEventHorizon and presses the remote detonator's button]]. [[ItGotWorse That's not all this troper has planned for the evil depravations of Markus John...]] * Raekuul has modded his ''DungeonKeeper 1'' so that Imps are free to summon and don't run from battle... but also only have 1 hit point. I'm not sure which is more amusing, the fact that the imps try to win, or that the enemies can't... * @/{{Trayzark}} was bored one day and decided to do an experiment in ''{{Worms}} Armageddon''. I started a game with 48 worms (6 teams, 8 worms each) on a landscape composed only of small platforms. On the very first turn, I activated the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Earthquake]] weapon and watched everyone tumble down to the bottom and [[SuperDrowningSkills drown]]. One time, when I did this, exactly one worm somehow survived, which I found rather amusing.

* I ''could'' try to complete all the levels in ''{{Scribblenauts}}''... or I could dig a pit, put a shark wielding a laser inside, and drop some innocent people in. It never gets old. ** Oh, Lord, Scribblenauts has turned This Troper into one sick chick. I ALWAYS play Lawful Good characters, and then THIS comes out... and suddenly I'm using soft, warm things to trip off landmines and giggling madly. Not to mention plopping down a wall and getting a good "last man standing" battle going for fun. It's all 5thCell's fault. Really. ** Ah, the fun of Scribblenauts. This troper loves watching "Zombies vs. Improbably Well Equipped Hobos"- it's not a question of who will win, but how long the last hobo can keep up his chainsaw rampage. ** Speaking of Scribblenauts, @/{{TheSuperhero}} did [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inSXubLpvz8 this]] and doesn't feel bad. He later did the same situation, but with Death instead of the meat. Did I mention Death was also chained up, neglecting his kill? [[EvilLaughter Muhahaha!]] * In the training stage of ''TombRaider II'' (set in Lara's mansion) her butler follows you around everywhere, which gets incredibly annoying after a while. The solution? Lock him in the walk-in fridge! After doing this I always drowned Lara in the pool to remove any hope of rescue for the irritating old fart. And two weeks later the police find the chlorine-soaked decomposing body of a grave robber with unfeasibly large knockers, and the body of a geriatric huddled over for warmth after gnawing at his own ankles in a vain attempt to stay alive. * My number one most favorite activity in ''{{Crackdown}}'' is climbing into the back of a pickup truck, crouching down, and allowing the driver to chauffeur me around the city while I shoot out other vehicles' tires with an assault rifle. It's especially rewarding on the freeway: losing a tire at high speeds can cause a car to go flying, and the guardrails are ''very'' low. ** Getting 4 stars on driving skill turns the Agency sportscar into the Batmobile. With ''machine guns''. This editor's nephews don't bother doing missions any more, they just drive around at full pelt, guns blazing and flipping cars. * I REALLY hate Brucie from GTA IV, and while I've gotten 50% through the game, I haven't completed the No. 1 racing mission, because it's just too much fun to pick him up, drive him back to my place in Algonquin instead of getting the car, and shooting him and beating him to death. Or taking the highway onto the stunt jump and watching him fall off the back of the bike screaming "FUCKKKK YOUUUUU!" * This troper found the indignant, hurt, occasionally lost commentary from Omochao in ''Sonic Adventure 2'' when you kicked him or threw him in a pit rather amusing. She also enjoyed throwing and kicking around the sweet, innocent little chaos in the Chao Garden because they're just so ''cute'' when they cry. ** Same here! I don't have a game that lets me beat on Omochao, but I do have ''SonicAdventure DX'' and have attacked innocent children on the street, and abused a chao that was a particularly ugly shade of green (and gave it a name that consists of unpronounceable characters). And then grinned when it started to cry. And I only feed

it just enough to make sure that it won't die as early as if it would as if I never did anything vaguely nice to it, so that I can prolong the abuse. I knock it away from the fruit every few seconds, give the fruit back to it, and repeat. And sometimes tease the little thing with food that I don't let it have. I'd never do this to a real animal! Honest! I'm not a psycho! ** Update from the second Chao-abuse Troper: There are 3 Chao in the Station Square Garden, which I only use for Chao I want to breed together or young ones, and I've given up on breeding for now. A newly-hatched purple one named "Coolkin", a yellow swimming one with an apple hat named "Z-T!" and formerly (until the purple one hatched) nicknamed "apple of my eye", and the aforementioned sickly green one named "~+*&%#~" and nicknamed "Greeny". The name Coolkin was meant to imply that she was my favourite (and she is, because I like purple), and that the other two shared the role of TheUnfavourite. However, although I'm not entirely kind to Z-T!, ~+*&%#~ is TheUnfavourite. He even actively cries whenever I'm not busy harming/feeding/holding/shaking him, and runs away from whichever character I'm using! Also, I wake him back up whenever I see him sleeping. * @/{{Sus}} discovered his inner monster during the good ol' Amiga days, and has gone on and on and on since then... ** ''Syndicate'', especially the mission where you're supposed to snipe a former employee starting his own business, was hours of fun because of the cruelty potential... "Sniper rifle? Those are for pussies!" * shoots former employee with rocket launcher, setting him and the civilians around him on fire* * cue mad giggling* *** Another perennial favorite was the flame thrower, especially <persuading> large crowds of civvies just to set them on fire... *** Also, exploding trains. Like, for example, after using a train to get my agents to the objective, leaving a primed time bomb on board just {{ForTheEvulz}}. And there was much rejoicing. ** Likewise, in ''X-Com Apocalyps''e, raiding a Temple of Sirius (or any other building, if feeling particularly vicious), setting the place on fire and watching (and listening to) the opposition burn to death... Glee! Also, detonating the Hell out of the alien buildings. ** Jedi Knight: Aside from the obvious "stick the timed explosive on the civilian"-type antics, this troper discovered that you could also run into civilians and push them off a ledge - with zero point drop on the KarmaMeter! Yes, while shooting or beating up people (or gonk droids) is Bad, pushing them off a cliff seems to sit just fine with the forces of good. (The gonk droid is fiendishly hard to corner, though.) ** ''Grand Theft Auto''. Car bombs. Rocket launcher. Boom. One of my favorite things to do was just to try to kill as many people and blow up as many cars as I could before the cops got me. ** Lemmings. One of the most cathartic things in a videogame ever was the "Armageddon" button. Let's just say that by the time I got thoroughly fustrated with the green-haired morons happily strolling off a bridge one pixel too short, the "RocksFallEveryoneDies" option saw repeated use. ** ''Baldur's Gate'': killing Noober (Who ''hasn't'' done that,

really?) or some of the recruitable NPC's were some of the ''less'' egregious examples. *** getting intentionally waylaid by bandits just so I could kill them off and sell their scalps. *** Gibberlings, meet fireball. *** Although the game expects you to join one of the NPC bandit groups to get to the bandit lair, it '''is''' possible to just slaughter all of them and find the lair on your own. *** killing everybody in the Undercellar or the Low Lantern... come to think about it, killing the beggars in the cities as well. ** ''HalfLife'': whacking the friendly scientists over the head with a crowbar, intentionally leading one of them to a malfunctioning retina scanner to die, generally wreaking havoc with grenades... Good times. ** ''HalfLife2'': The best thing, the ''very best thing'' about [=HL2=] is that the player can toss [=TVs=] through windows, smack people on the head with broken bottles, blow up watermelons and generally behave like a rock star on PCP. *** Exploding barrels. Oh, exploding barrels, how I love thee! *** In an unusual display of cruelty against the player character, this troper spent quite some time tossing a car battery n the air with the gravity gun and trying to position Gordon under it when it came down. Yeah, it works. "* crunch!* Minor fracture detected." *** Ravenholm is the funniest FPS level ''ever''. Burn, poison zombie, burn! *** Setting the Combine on fire, nailing them on the walls with the crossbow or running them over with the scout car was great fun as well. Especially at the house where the two combines behind a board fence are burning infectee corpses... There's a great deal of sadistic joy in imagining them go "what the.." just before my car crashes through the fence and slams them against the side of the house. *** Car-bowling with the gravity gun and especially the electromagnet crane is great fun, too. Not to mention shipping-container-fu against the poor fools to come out of the harbor magazine. Yet on to-do-list: try and see if it's possible to roll a container ''into'' the building. *** While it is mostly impossible to kill civilians in unmodified HL 2, I found out that the vortigaunt in the basement of New Little Odessa ''can'' be killed by toppling a filing cabinet on it. * In ''MetalGearSolid 3'', in the fight with The Fear, this troper enjoys reducing his stamina and throwing him rotten food. When he tries to eat it, he gets sick. * This troper enjoys the [[KillItWithFire liberal applications of incendiary devices]] in ''FarCry 2'', but one of the most effective ways to take down a large enemy base from distance is to whip out an SVD and shoot a guy standing in the open in the gut. Then, wait as the guy cries for help in agony. When one of his comrade comes to help him, shoot him in the gut too. Repeat ''ad nauseam'' until the base is cleared. If only you can burn a living animal and watch it runs into an enemy base... * A relatively unknown game, ''HellMOO'' allows for some of the most creative murder and cruelty in gaming history against both actual players and [=NPCs=]. All in text mind you (still immensly satisfying

though): *** Stashing plutonium rods in places in order to radiate passing players *** Refilling drinks with bleach and giving them to people *** cooking poisoned food and giving it to hungry [=NPCs=] or players *** Butchering a zombie and causing a zombie apocalypse by leaving the meat on the street for stray dogs *** Shoving players down stairs *** Actual rape. As in forced sex. Can be done against anybody you want. *** Arming a grenade and handing it to a player who carelessly allows gifts from all *** With the correct mutations and a junkable bag you can literally eat your enemies' expensive gear. Though you're better off selling it off quickly to someone tougher than you. *** and SO MUCH MORE. I have done everything written above. * In ''{{Marvel VS Capcom}}'' when I pick practice mode I like to use lots of very painful skills on characters I don't like. ** I agree. There's something cathartic about beating the shit out of people you don't like with an excruciatingly painful move in a fighting game, especially things like {{MUGEN}}. In ''KingOfFighters Maximum Impact 2'', Fio has a super where she combos you, machine guns you and then finishes your airborne body off with a well thrown axe. This, plus Lien's neckbreak special are the sort of things I love doing. Sometimes I even do it to characters I like. I find it really refreshing to instead direct the aforementioned moves to guys like [[BadAss Geese]] or [[GenkiGirl Yuri.]] I REALLY get a kick out of going into Practice mode just to beat up Mignon, whom I hate because she [[ThisIsSPARTA NEVER. SHUTS. UP.]] *** Lately I gotten over my hatred for the three characters in Marvel VS Capcom but... Now I do it to [[VainSorceress VEGA]] for example. Same rule applies though use all the painful moves on characters I can't stand, [[EvilLaugh laugh]] as they scream their lungs out ** [[@/{{MC2}} This editor]] used to have a fascination with spamming Gato's neck breaker on characters that rubbed me the wrong way. But since I discovered ''{{MUGEN}}'' I can now fatality pretty much any character of my choosing. Life is good! * This troper has been known to call in artillery strikes on medics in ''Company of Heroes''. ** Admirable, but unimpressive. This troper was fighting the Wehrmacht and found an aid bunker they'd built. I had an engineer plant demo charges on it, and waited for a squad of Volksgrenadiers to take refuge therein before pressing the button. Medics, reservists, and bunker all go up in a cloud of concrete dust. That's a special case of the more standard tactic, putting demo charges on bridges and in buildings dudes are going to hide in. Enemy tries to attack across a bridge? Hide in a building? Boom! * This troper found out that if you tweak a jump pad in the Galactic Adventures expansion for ''{{Spore}}'' just the right way, you can actually get a creature to orbit a planet several times. In an eccentric orbit. So when you think they're going to land because they're getting closer to the ground, they usually just keep on

flying. They even leave the planet's atmosphere sometimes! Then there's the fact that when trying to make a whale-like creature, this troper noticed it was swimming odd in the test play mode, so I dropped the water level so it was on land (the planet was supposed to be an ocean planet.), and it was floating through the air, twitching and looking like someone was trying to pull its spine out through it's throat. It made me giggle. And in the space phase, if you throw things hard enough with the tractor beam, they actually orbit the planet in about a second. Doing this to creatures is funny because of the fact they die when they hit the ground. * This troper was recently playing ''Fallout 3'' and had an extremely good character by the time "The Waters of Life" was over. The character was being followed by Star Paladin Cross (to the uninitiated, this NPC won't even give you the time of day if you're below the maximum level of karma). So, I went back to Megaton and got the radio signal to start "Trouble on the Homefront" which I then started doing. Long story short, I got lost in the vault and wound up at the Overseer's office. I convinced him he was wrong and to turn over the vault to someone else. He decided his daughter was a good choice and ran off to tell her. On my way to find her, I got "lost" again and wound up in the reactor area. I manually purged the air in the vault. The old overseer didn't like that one bit and ran up to me, accusing me of doing it. I told him one of the rebels did it. He believed me. On my way out of the vault, Amata ran up to me and asked what happened. I blamed it on the Overseer. She believed me. The whole time, Star Paladin Cross said nothing against this. (This NPC will leave you if you do even one bad deed in her presence.) * While playing ''Fallout 3'', this troper attacked Tenpenny Tower, slaughtering everybody in it with nothing but the Atomic Pulverizer, a Gatling Laser, a few Plasma Grenades, and a 5mm pistol. ** I did something similar, but all I used was a Shishkebab. I then proceeded to do the same to all people in Megaton and Rivet City. * This troper once had a pretty sick idea about ''Fallout 3''. All you have to do is to kill at least eight innocent people, then you form a swastika with their bodies. Then, you take out a melee weapon and hack them to pieces. Interestingly, if done to neutral characters, your karma shouldn't go below "neutral" if you were good before. Another version involves killing two people and form the swastika with their legs and arms. As mentioned, this was just an idea and this troper usually plays good guys in [=RPG=]s. * WWE games are particularly fun for this. Use the creation modes to create ANYONE you don't like, then fight them in no-DQ matches and bludgeon them with your weapons of choice. * [[ValkyriaChronicles The]][[JerkAss old]] + A whole slew of enemies=fun times for all. Except Theold. * This troper was spectacularly cruel while playing ''Rollercoaster Tycoon''. Rides that shot off into nowhere at high speed, tiny islands in the middle of the lake where people who vomited would be exiled, drowning failed entertainers and litterers... and of course, closing the park gates so no one could leave. ** ''ThemePark'' was a lot of fun too, for those of us who went that route. My personal favourites were the roller-coasters. They'd start

out full, and it's the most exciting ride. They return empty while disgruntled little people wander back in from the far corners of the lot. ** Wait, I didn't know my little sister was a troper! *** My personal favorite form of sadism is to put only ONE restroom in the far corner of the park, and charge the participants 10 cents to use. And I'm not going to put up those information desks, if they want to empty their innards, they're going to have to hoof it. * Am I the only one who would subdue a civilian in the first ''{{Mercenaries}}'' game, take careful aim, wait for it to whimper sadly... and then gun it down? (I also do it to enemy soldiers, but this is so much more wrong.) ** In the demo, this troper would forget about the base he was supposed to be attacking, blow up a bridge down the road, then watch as civilian after stupid civilian drove into the water below, eventually piling up into an island of cars and trucks with several survivors stranded on top. * ''FinalFantasyTactics''. Level and job point grinding. Surround an enemy who's got so many status ailments inflicted by you that it takes two minutes for the list to cycle. Fun for the whole family! * In ''Medal of Honor: Frontline'', there was seemingly no cap on ammo for the M1 Garand, where every other gun would have a maximum amount you could carry. To try and figure out how much was possible to have at once, this troper killed every one of the allied soldiers who carried M1 Garands. It is not something he looks back on with pride. * In ''Swat 4'', looking under a door into a small janitor's closet revealed a terrorist. This troper then used a wedge to lock him in, proceeded to save hostages, arrest and kill other terrorists, go have something to eat, then loop back through the level. That terrorist was locked in a closet for an hour or so before the Swat members finally returned to plant C4 on the door and bludgeoned him into the closet wall with it. * This troper perhaps got a little too ''much'' pleasure in beating the ever-loving '''snot''' of those silly mushroom-like enemies in the first level of the game ''Vexx''. Along with cackling evilly as she hit them with rapid-fire punches followed up with a powerful finisher, she loved to toss them off ledges to see what would happen. She never got very far in the game because those stupid things were too fun to torture. * During the early parts of ''AssassinsCreed'', this one likes to spontaneously punch people in the mouth and, for added hilarity, tackle the shit out of everyone he comes across. Becomes doubly hilarious when doing it while Ezio's mother lectures him about being too reckless and fight prone. ** This troper, when sufficiently irritated by crazy men or beggar women, likes to grab them and slam them face first into the wall. Doesn't hurt them, but incredibly satisfying nonetheless * This troper had a marvellous time killing sims on, well, the ''Sims 2'', using the cow plant. I killed about 11 people in the space of 30 minutes :) * This troper generally plays a more [[VideogameCaringPotential caring type]], but when playing ''Red Dead Redemption'' I have a real hatred

of horse thieves. So one day I was out riding in the middle of nowhere when I came across a woman in her underwear, politely asking for a ride back to town. Always the gentleman, I stopped. Then she pulled me off the horse, got on it and galloped away. But I whistled for my trusty steed, which threw her off and returned to me. I got on and chased after her. Once in range I lassoed her and pulled her back to the road. On the way she hit several cacti (and I remind you, she was in her underwear). Once back on the road I tied her up and threatened to shoot her (I tend to role-play), before loading her up on my horse and rode to the nearest rail-line, where she was laid on the tracks. She had to wait several minutes before the train came... * In ''Batman Arkham Asylum'' this troper had fun knocking down enemies with the Bat-claw and then setting explosive gel all around him to see how high the guy bounces. * ''{{Fallout}} 3'' [[hottip:* : This game really brings out the worst in people, doesn't it?]]: I made it my personal mission to enslave every single character in the Wasteland who is physically able. I depopulated Megaton AND Rivet City by ducking into unused rooms and waiting for 3 days (after which, all is forgiven). After enslaving the cities, I turned my attention to the Wastelanders, enslaving every Raider I came across. For extra abuse, I would steal their clothes first so they'd have to sprint across the Wasteland nearly nude. My "lowest" moment came when you meet the escaped sex slave in the Temple of the Union. After she finished her sob story -> * ZAP* -> collared > "Off you go, hon." * ShadowOfRome. SO sadistic, and you get REWARDED. * This troper had many a [[ManiacalLaugh maniacal laugh]] while preying on Deidrianna's mooks in [[JaggedAlliance JA2]]. Punching them off buildings is an all-time favorite, but the crowbar-to-the-legsplus-mustard-gas-to-the-face combination has proved worthy in its own right bonus points for stealing the gas mask beforehand. * This troper got Sims 3 for Christmas 6 months ago, and has currently has: ** Caused over 28 people to die of neglect, ** Has killed any sim who tries to leave the house, ** Purposely created torture rooms for babies of teenage mothers, only for their parents to discover their graves, ** Put misbehaving children outside and then removing the doors, ** And worst of all, killing each baby ever born by a sim I thought was TheScrappy by locking them in the bathrooms, removing all doors, causing the newborns to lose any contact it has with their parents, and leaving them to die in their own filth. * Yes, I am a crazy bastard. * I enjoy sacrificing babies to Cthulu, randmly killing people and making normally peaceful creatures fight to the death in ScribbleNauts . * The old point-and-click adventure game ''StarTrek25thAnniversary'' offers many, ''many'' delightful ways to get your landing party's RedShirt brutally killed. For example: the first mission, we're in a cave and come upon a door blocked by rubble. Spock scans the rubble and tells you that you can blast it out of the way with your phasers... if you're careful and you shoot the rocks in the right

order. I was not careful. RedShirt got splatted by a boulder the size of a minivan. Over, and over, and ''over''. >:) Another mission, there's a group of Romulans holed up in a room accessible by a ladder. You can force anyone in your party to climb down the ladder. '''ZAP.''' * This troper is the cruelest Civ player he knows. One time, he destroyed an entire contient of cities, just so that the unsettled land would spawn endless barbarians, which he used as a training ground for his soldiers. * In ''Oblivion'', this troper has completed the quest "Goblin Trouble" by stealing the totem. I've left it in Border Watch (where every inhabitant has a weapon) to see how long they last against constant Goblin attacks. * This sort-of pales in comparison with the rest, but whenever I play Pokemon, I always name my rival Assface. * Red Dead Redemption, I'm always pushing people around, lassoing them, letting them go, then re-lassoing them. This is not all I do, friends. In the mission [[spoiler: Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child, after I get Jack away from the bear, I move him AWAY from the ranch, shoot the horse to make him walk with me...while I lodge fire bottles and dynamite at him while saying: "This is your Survival Test, cadet! Let's see you dodge these!"]] Yeah, I'm evil. XD * In ''Majora's Mask'', I like to humiliate Link by making him wear the Pig's Mask (That makes him bend down to sniff) and always position him directly behind someone. IfYouKnowWhatIMean. * In ''Fallout 3'', when you escape the Vault, I always kill the Overseer, drag him to Amata and dismember him in front of her, placing his head and limbs on the table. * In all the games I play, I love to make the playable character do absolutely stupid things of which there is no way of getting out without extreme injury and/or death. Naturally, I make them do it. * In ''Oblivion'', I always find the need to make sure both Martin and Capt. Mattius are the last two Kvatch survivors in the game after I'm done with the others. Try rebuilding now, boys!! :D * In ''Civilization: Beyond the Sword'', I always enter the cheat menu and give myself nukes, tanks, and other 21st-century weapons and soldiers when the time period is anywhere from 10,000 BC-1850 AD. * ''Red Dead Redemption'' again. I seem to like having Marston get hit by a train (not head-on, though), tumble off cliffs, fist-fight cougars and bears, jump off of buildings, hold dynamites until it blows up in his hand, light him on fire...the list goes on. * This Troper has played a little Call of Duty 2 on his cousin's 360 before he sold it for drugs (long story), and the one tutorial involving grenade tossing, but with potatoes...to put it simply, I would throw the potato at my mentor, causing the mission to fail. Just that "thunk" and "you fail" message popping up got me in stitches. * In ''Oblivion'', I always go out of my way to exterminate the Orcish race in Cyrodill. One day, I want to do this with an Orcish character so I can roleplay that (s)he's the LastOfHisKind. * I once, [[ItAmusedMe just for the hell of it]], made myself a ''DwarfFortress'' GameMod where my dorfs didn't need to eat, drink, or sleep and smelters could spew out star sapphires, coal, and

[[{{Unobtanium}} adamantine]] for free. I then used Dwarf Companion to make all my little peons legendary in just about every skill, tame everything on the map, and, once the catsplosion got started, turn the kittens into dragons. After that, I started covering the entire map with weapon traps full of masterpiece large serrated adamantine discs. Then I waited for the next [[TheScrappy elven trade caravan]]. When they showed up, they quickly [[ScrewYouElves found themselves on the wrong end]] of a battery of three [[WaveMotionGun ballistas]] that reduced them to a bloody smear. The other elves were outraged, and started sending in war parties for revenge. [[{{Gorn}} The results were predictable]] and [[BloodyHilarious I laughed myself sick]]. After [[LudicrousGibs the elf bits stopped raining down]], I had my dorfs go out and collect them. Then I carved out a trophy hallway full of beautifully engraved alcoves and installed a jewel-encrusted elf skull totem in each one. The next step, obviously, will be to make all visiting merchants walk through it to get to the Trade Depot. * In Myth II: Soulblighter, it's possible to kill the wildlife with thrown explosives - watching the pieces of helpless animals fall provided many hours of entertainment. (You can also, by aim and luck, kill the hawks with arrows.) While you get yelled at in-game for doing this on the tutorial level, this troper set out of his way to murder everything on the map he possibly could. Fun fact: there's a mini map where you get attacked by exploding deer. Pretty sure I found this by campaigning to destroy the local ecosystem. * Neverwinter Nights, that game is truly an entertaining way to relieve stress. Let's see, there was my high level cleric, when I decided to go on a killing spree and off all non-essential characters. Let's just say that Neverwinter was a very very quiet city when I left. Unfortunately, the sequel won't allow that. I believe that this sort of activity started with Deus Ex and Hong-Kong... In fact, I'm fond of depopulating games. * Here's a tip: If you're driving around in a tank in {{Prototype}}, running over people, and the words "They're just like ants" come out of your mouth, put the controller down for a minute and think about what you did. ** *looks down in shame* Normally I'm a [[VideoGameCaringPotential caring person]], like with the ''Fable'' games, but.... the achievement for running over 500 people was so tempting! And I was I unhappy at the loss of my powers! On a side note, I got the kill 50 characters in 5 seconds by using my ''SHIELD''. I also have killed many a marine or Blackwatch officer for their weapons and clothes, abilities or tanks/gunships. Sometimes for just for just pushing me(after I pushed them) ''Or'' for the lulz, like with Patsy. * This Troper's boyfriend has introduced her to video games- the one that comes to mind is Just Cause 2. "Hey, what are you shooting at?" "People." "... Those are civilians." "Yeah, if I shoot at the army they shoot back." Also notable is how I grapple cars, steal them, and drive them straight into the sea with their owners watching. Or the one time I angered the military, so I stole their boat, and shot at the driver again and again. (Also I keep "accidentally" confusing the grapple and explosive buttons. "Ooh, nice car! *BLAM* Oops.) * This troper with certain games. In Driv3r she liked to run over the

people or shoot them (originally to left off steam but then it became fun... I know, I'm sadistic). But one example that definitely sticks out is Halo CE in the level The Silent Cartographer. After beating up all the Elites and Grunts, this troper and her brother often like to take the Warthog and run over their human allies. *shrugs* * Tropers/TheNoun is a totally horrible person in ''SurvivalCrisisZ''. Her character, Ashley (loosely based on a real friend of this troper) pushed drugs on three different house leaders, blew up six more, electrically tortured several others, and eventually gained control of the entire city. She wantonly shot (and, once she obtained a flamethrower, burned) everything she saw, whether is be zombie, SWAT, rebel or civilian. Her favorite sport was "Zombie Head Soccer". She did work for different factions on different days, and more than once started huge street battles by luring groups of [=SWATs=] towards groups of rebels and letting them duke it out. If she didn't like one of her party members, she set up situations where they would run out of ammo and get mobbed to death but she would still survive. Once she earned the cheats menu in arcade mode, [[ItGotWorse all hell broke loose.]] * Suprisingly, This Troper managed this in Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne. I loaded up the Icecrown map and then made it my mission to kill every living thing upon it. I started with the oppostion, and crushed them under an unending wave of Mortar-teams, shortly before instructing said mortars to shoot each other to death. I then sent out a Blood Mage to incinerate every creep on the map, while requisitioning hundreds of peasants to mine out or cut down every resource on the map, sparing nothing. Finally, I constructed a series of cannon towers, got them all to shell the same spot, and then fed my peasants into the crucible until all was gibbed...Then I threw my heroes in there too just for giggles. ** (Calling my Archmage wizard Hitler probably didnt help matters, although I did end up calling the blood mage Ensby) * In [[CallOfDuty World at War]] this troper doesn't mind [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown shooting nazis when their lying on the ground or trying to surrender.]] * This troper had one while playing Oni. After getting supplies from the civilians, I killed them with a backbreaker. Led to a MyGodWhatHaveIDone when I thought back on it later. * SyphonFilter encourages you to kill opponents in certain conditions to unlock more weapons. By using darts(gas,explosive,shock), knife, taser, or environment kills. * This troper views the use of dozens of nuclear weapons in Civ 5 as an appropriate response to complaints about buying up land near the AI's borders. * In RedDeadRedemption, this troper regularly tips hogtied people over cliffsides and into lakes. Usually after kneecapping them. * This troper spends most of her time playing {{Fable}}2 by gathering up all of the whores in Bloodstone, then my own child, and proceed to do [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean things]], forcing the child to watch and forever killing their innocence. Then I'd force them to follow me again, and kill their mother with them watching. * ''TheSims'' really ''is'' filled with [[VideogameCrueltyPotential

Video Game Cruelty Potential]]. This troper forced her sims to have a child. She then raised that child, with just enough care so the child services bitch wouldn't come and teleport it away. It grew up to be a boy. Unfortunately for him, he was born with clown face make up. This troper giggled for hours remembering his incredibly girly screams as she [[KillItWithFire burned him to death]]. * In TheSims 3 for the XBOX360 I got one of my Sims to die repeatedly for the [[TheyKilledKenny Kenny Mccormick]] effect, and is hoping for the other two (I have six) to hook up, get married, leave, have 6 children (Not sure how much you can actually get) named (Some of the names re tribute to other characters) [[SouthPark Craig]], Amber, [[SouthPark Clyde, Kenny]], [[TheKingOfFighters Chris]], [[GenderBenderName Jo]], Missy have the two break up and [[MyGirlIsASlut have]] [[AllMenArePerverts sex]] with the whole town with kids named [[TalesOfVesperia Flynn]], Lilly, [[SouthPark Stan, Kyle]], Robin, [[Slayer Lina]] before killing them off (for the guy case[[KilledForReal ...]] * This Troper is currently playing through FinalFantasyThe4HeroesOfLight, and has been assigned a temporary party member (a cute little talking mouse, as it happens). Knowing that they have a tendency to leave and take their equipment with them, and since my two core party members are more than capable of managing on their own, I just took all the mouse's stuff away and let him die, so he's just a sad little ghost following the others around. The worst part? I'm also using him to carry the VendorTrash I find in the meantime, including a bunch of ''Phoenix Downs''. * In Jak 2 this tropette liked to engage in a game known as pedestrian bowling by getting on a zoomer, going top speed towards a crowd of civillians and then jumping off at the last second and watching as the zoomer smashed into the civillians. * Hehehe, I did this in Rollercoaster Tycoon 3. I built a tall bridge, waited until lots of people got on it, and then I deleted the way up to it so they couldn't get away. Then, I put water under it, and removed the bridge one piece at a time and watched them fall down to their wet death. [[EvilLaugh Mweheheee]]. * This troper sometimes plays around with [=NPCs=] in Ascii Sector. Heck, anything'll do. Paralyze a person and then kick the snot out of him, shoot him in the throat with a laser rifle, destroy them limb by limb... the list goes on. * I got extremely creative with clan battles and easy missions in FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance. I would sometimes immobilize and disarm the last standing enemy, poison them, and then watch them slowly die. For some clan battles I would kill every opponent but the archers, and then have all my units stand in a line and be killed. In other battles I did civil wars and assisted suicide. * This troper has the World Adventures expansion pack for Sims 3. Trap abuse ensued. I made a lot specifically for burning Sims alive. I also made it a hangout so that Sims will actually go there. It consists of a building whose walls are entirely made out of windows with a floor covered in fire traps. near the building, there is a wall with 3 torch levers on it. One locks the door, another turns on the traps, and last one resets the whole system. They won't die, though. I should try

making a house covered in secret hidden fire traps, or one that will lock you inside with several mummies. Or maybe even kill off the entire police force and delete the building. Do you think I should delete all the doors in town except the one on my Sim's house? Or delete every business, leaving everybody unemployed, while using cheats to keep my Sim healthy and rich? How about isolating everybody in town in small rooms, leaving them to starve? Decisions,decisions! * This troper is a kind girl who would never hurt a fly and who everyone either loves to chat to, loves to get hugged by or loves to tease... or at least, I am in RealLife. In video games? I swing between a BigGood and a CompleteMonster. I shall list the latter. ** ''Petz5'': My favourite thing to do on this is to go on a room with mouseholes. Then, I get out a large quantity of cheese. I open the mouseholes, and let a mouse come out. I quickly ''close the mouseholes'' and let a couple of Catz in. HilarityEnsues! ** ''Pokemon'': Mostly, I'm a BigGood... except for when I get out my level eighty-something Mewtwo and go into Viridian Forest. Did I mention that my Mewtwo knows [[KillItWithFire Flamethrower?]] I suppose that shiny Mr. Mime in the Safari Zone was revenge for that... ** ''EvilGenius'': Only ever got the trial version, but my favourite thing to do was to set all enemies to "capture", throw them in the cells, and use them for target practice. ** ''TheSims'': I once made a family for the express purpose of killing them. In the original, I used the potion-maker-thingy to make a bunch of potions and used them for fun. One Sim, who was married, fell in love with a woman who was ALSO married. She then fell in love with him via potions. I then moved the two families in together and had the cheating Sims ''kill their spouses''. It gets worse. The female cheat had a child, who SAW HIS DAD DIE. I proceeded to torture the kid, make him drop grades, have his mother delay feeding him for Woo Hoo, and basically screwed him up. That kid then went for a swim in the pool, which had a diving board but no ladder, which was ''totally unintentional'' on my part - I'd actually forgotten to put the ladder in. The kid ''committed suicide''. ** ''RabbidsGoHome'': The Wii Remote Rabbid customisation. Sweet Lord, the ''customisation''. I have an army of mutant Rabbids! ** ''SuperSmashBrosBrawl'': Is it just me, or are Link's death screams too hilarious to miss? ** ''ZooTycoon'': Yes, I'm another troper who enjoys letting the ''T. rexes'' run free. Also, I discovered something fun. ''The herbivores will eat people.'' Also, in Zoo Tycoon Two, it's possible to make a zoo where all of the animals roam free from the beginning. I leave it as an exercise for my fellow sadists to find all of the ways to exploit that. My favourite is 50+ zebra, 20 lions, and the money cheat. * In Super Mario 64 DS, in the "Cool, Cool Mountain" stage, I threw the baby penguins off the cliff- in the case of one of them, right in front of its mom(or dad? I can't tell). >:3 It was so wrong, but also so fun. * This troper once played [[FakeDifficulty Expert Mode]] in [[StarFox Star Fox 64]]. Someone crashed into him, throwing him into [[UnstoppableRage a nerd rage]]. He decided to restart the level and

shoot down anyone that crashed into him, [[VideogameCrueltyPotential including his wingmates]]. * This troper was playing Birth By Sleep and was playing on the Skull Rock Command Board, Captain Hook and Aqua were about tied for GP, with a few thousand to go until one of us could win. Cue Aqua landing on a pixie dust panel and teleporting Captain Hook to the most expensive panels (about 2000GP each, while the lowest limit for a quick game is 5000GP). Even worse, I stunned Captain Hook enough times to complete half a lap without him moving and landed on another pixie dust panel, allowing me to dump him on ANOTHER panel with a high toll. BWAHAHA! * I love this. In Driving games, I will run people over for no reason other than they are infront of me. If I have a shotgun, I'll blast them away. In assassins creed, I will stab innocents just because they are there. The higher penalties or less potential to do this, the less fun. * Oh, ''ZooTycoon''. I could wax lyrical about this game! ** "The Great Herbivore Experiment": Stegosaurs eat people! Seriously, they do! ** "Labyrinth": ''T.rexes'' + ArtificialStupidity + A bored TeenGenius + cheat codes + electric fences = MassOhCrap and HilarityEnsues combined. ** "Learn To Swim": It turns out that pools with blocked exits are great fun. Especially if the hapless visitors whom you drop in are with the killer whales! ** "Lions, Tigers And Bears - OhCrap!": I made all of my visitors go through hell by having to work their way through a bunch of exibits, mostly lions, tigers and bears. ** "JurassicPark Mk. 2": Warring packs of velociraptors. Which were kept away from each other... until they escaped. They then figured out that, if they worked together, they could eat more people. ** "I'm Invisible!": The invisible fence download, as it turns out, produces an invisible door which ''people can't exit through''. Oh dear. * In ''StarTrekStarfleetCommand'' this troper takes a special delight in disabling an enemy starship's engines, and ''ever so gently'' nudging them with the tractor beam into the event horizon of the nearest black hole. ''[[PlanarShockwave Kaboom.]]'' ** Even more fun, setting your phasers to disable weapons, then disabling all systems with boarding parties. I personally prefer to play drone cruisers. I believe it was a grand total of 4 MIRV missiles and a pair of scatterpack shuttles, which comes out to over 30 missiles... directly into an open shield... That made up for the two X-cruisers that I had to take out in that mission. * I've done this so much that my parents are worried about me...In the Sims 2, Veronaville is in the middle of a civil war, in Strangetown all aliens are being hunted down and in Pleasantview [[ArsonMurderandJaywalking the weather is improving]]...I need help. * When this troper played 'Jurassic Park III: Park Builder' on the Gameboy Advanced, what did she do with any aquatic creatures that spawned in the lab? Oh, tossed them to the 'Class 3 Carnivore' pen. It was their fault for having such short lifespans anyway :D * During the very first mission of ''FreeSpace'' you're on patrol with

another pilot named Lt. Harbison protecting a disabled cruiser. The game makes somewhat of a deal of his being a seasoned pilot who knows his stuff. Wouldn't it be an awful shame if he were killed... Of course, directly firing on a friendly ship repeatedly gets you courtmartialled, and the mission is so easy that it's pretty much impossible for the other pilot to get killed in the normal way. So, this troper first makes sure that Haribson's hull strength is below his, usually be firing a few shots to drop it (you can get away with a few shots before tripping the "Traitor" switch). He then [[RammingAlwaysWorks rams]] the other ship repeatedly, shaving off the hitpoints until the other ship reaches zero. For such a prestigous career to come to such an end...[[EvilLaugh mwah hah hah hah hah...]] * ''Scarface: The World Is Yours''. Long story short, in the first level you're in your office with unlimited ammo and your sister's body. Moving it about the room with gunfire is possible. ** The game also has much, much more potential. Tony Montana will not kill civillains. But his henchmen will. Just walk into that theatre or hotel and kill all the customers. Decapitate the fried-chicken loving Mexican wrestler commonly seen around town. And the auto-aiming tanktruck driven by a henchman? Will just leave dozens of corpses if you go mad in a crowded section of town. ** A required game mission has Tony being chased by cops. Following the appropiate path to escape, the cops will all fall into the water. Take shortcuts? Cops crash into various obstacles and -explode-. * ''Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas''. Throat-cuts to random pedestrians. Vehicle pile-ups near bridges lead to cars catapulting into the water. Any number of ways to get cops to dive into the drink: instant drowning ensues. Sometimes passengers don't bail from jacked cars. Their screams of terror are a delight. Do the 'kill the snitch' mission on Mt. Ciliad badly enough and the cops come. And more then likely tumble down the side of the mountain in their SUVs. Bye bye, officer. Heck, outright murdering one of the latter girlfriends (it's tough) leads to the Heist mission being done faster. ** There's a glitch that allows for even more cruelty when throatcutting peds. Throw some tear gas into a crowd of people, and if you cut just one persons throat everyone in the area will be killed in the same way. * Whenever I get particularly frustrated with the world, I go light monkeys on fire in ''{{Okami}}''. Or play ''{{Castlevania}}: SymphonyOfTheNight'' and wreak havoc in low-level areas with [[GameBreaker Crissaegrim]]. * ''Red Dead Redemption''. I played the mission "Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child" where you have to rescue Jack from the bear. I rode him all the way to Blackwater, dismounted the horse, then quickly got back onto the horse (without Jack on) and rode as far away as I could without failing the mission. Result? I made the poor injured Jack limp all the way to Beecher's Hope all while screaming "Please Pa! Don't leave me here!!" If he got too close, I sped up the horse's speed. * With Medieval II: Total War, I always play as the French, and I always use cheat codes to have the French be the most ridiculously powerful country in the game. When its time to conquer, I attack the Holy Roman Empire (located in what is today, Germany). I did the same

thing in Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword. I just really love having the French dominate everyone. XD * This troper loves mass murder in Okami in the ten gate trial; maybe it's not cruelty per se, but I love cutting monsters and all the ink shedding. The same goes with NoMoreHeroes, and with SuperSmashBrothersBrawl endless brawl let myself dive into the [[AxCrazy killing madness]]. some other thing are: ** In Twilight Princess, I love to shot arrows to the boars in the hyrule field, and watch them run to the edge of the cliff with their jockeys. Also, I like to use the arrowed bombs and shoot [[YourHeadAsplode nearly anything that crosses my way]]. ** In Pokemon [[ParentalAbandonment dismissed many vulpix, bagon and ralts in order to get shinies with egg moves]]. Also enjoy ussing SuperEffective attacks or OneHitKill. Once I cheated my cousin in using his Infernape against my Arceus [[NotCheatingUnlessYouGetCaught holding the water plate]]. Things went downhill from there. ** Generally I'm a BigGood girl in RealLife and videogames, but pretty much this troper can't have a SimulationGame at hand, specially the [[CruelPlayerCharacterGod god-theme]] ones, since she goes all [[CompleteMonster Sephiroth]], tortures world's inhabitants and/or destroys the said world [[YouBastard afterwards]]. * @/{{Mrin}} has some! ** In ''Okami'', climbing up the cat tower and throwing kitties off the highest ledges. They respawn, so they get to drop again and again! Also, you can get the adults completely wasted at the festival after saving Kushi. ** In ''Wind Waker'''s Wind Temple, putting Makar on one side of a sliding spiked anvil's path and putting Link close enough to activate the anvil, but on the other side. Then Link calls Makar over to get hit. ** In Sims 2 Pets, I have a man named Bob who is fat and dresses only in the hottest pinks with his pink poodle who wears matching pink shades and shoes. the dog's a male too. Their home? Three walls, a phone, and a maze of fences. The phone is for prank call purposes. They stink and are constantly hungry, and Bob fights with everyone. ** In ''Twilight Princess'' ramming the boars into each other. Lining them up in front of one of Hyrule Castle's entrances then preforming a spin attack to hit them all causes them to fall instantly. For some reason, they can't cross that white bridge. ** In ''Ocarina of Time'' attacking the cursed skultula people is great fun! The cuckoos as well. Drop them all down the empty well and drop a few bombs, and it's fun for all! Running over the cuckoos with Epona is sweet too. Also, playing Epona's song in LonLon Ranch as a kid makes her follow you. Run out of the corral and to either side, and she'll follow you. She'll then want to return to Malon, and will run into the wall. Eventually, she'll get 'stuck', and continue to try to run to Malon. Haha! ** In ''Majora's Mask'' going through the Kafei and Anju sidequest ... without giving Anju the pendant of memories. This results in Kafei and Link fighting through Sakon's traps, getting the mask, going to the Inn ... and Kafei sees that Anju isn't waiting for him like they promises. The moon is minutes from crushing them all, and Kafei's last

thoughts are spent thinking that he's a failure and realizing that his fiance doesn't love him. ** In ''Hamtaro Ham Ham Heartbreak'' Tack-Q'ing everyone in sight is fun. Tack-Q'ing babies in front of their parents (some of who do nothing to stop you) is great. ** In Halo, shooting off one type of Flood's arm off results in them being unable to attack you, but that doesn't keep them from tying. Killing the humans on missions where they accompany you is entertaining as well. Especially Johnson who, no matter how many times you shoot him in the head, or melee him, won't die. ** ''Pokemon'', having your Pokemon attack each other during double battles. In HH/SS, having a fire pokemon walk with you and stand in water or in rain makes them very unhappy. In ''Explorers of Time and Darkness'' making fun of your partner right after they've been teased and called a coward by saying "Bok bok bok!". * There is nothing more satisfying than pressing delete on a unit of guardsmen in DOW...then doing it again until you kill all ten squads of them (of course, this is not a good idea if you don't have an ally, as you'll probably lose very quickly). * This Troper can be violent in any game. Mainly GTA, Black and White and the Dark Force Saga: slitting people's throat, throwing people off mountains, and throwing Stormtroopers into bottomless pits, respectively. * In ''Majora's Mask'', I like to torment Link by making him wear and activate the bomb mask. Hey, he should've been smarter than he was when he got the friggin' thing. * In ''Oblivion'', there's a segment where you have to save Bruma from being the second DoomedHometown of Cyrodill. I enter the Great Gate and...do nothing. I just let the Seige Crawler complete its path of destruction. * Also, in ''Oblivion'', I take Martin and Jauffre with me to an Oblivion Gate, tell them to stay put, push them into a lava pit before leaving them. Forever. * In a really old game called America:DividedNation, I go to the map editor and pick two armies. The British usually number in the 10s while the Americans number in the 10,0000s. Sometimes I like to make them fight together against the Texas, Mexicans, Apaches, Unions and Confederate factions. * In one of the DBZ fighting games, I go to training mode, pick Goku, my opponet Gohan, set the CPU to very hard and watch Gohan wail the crap out of IdiotHero, MarySue daddy. * In Resident Evil 4, I deliberatly have Leon step into traps. XD * This troper has been the victim of this many times in [[{{Portal}} Portal 2]]'s co-op mode, by ''her boyfriend'' of all people! Sludge, Crushers, Pits, you name it! He also has a tendency to run into a test and leave me behind. * Edgy in ''MetalGearSolid3''. Once, I killed a guard, allowed a vulture to eat him, killed the vulture for a ration, then I destroyed the Food Stores to make the area's soldiers go hungry. So I fed one of the soldiers the ration from the vulture who ate one of his buddies. I tricked the soldier into indirect cannibalism. * [[Tropers/{{Nani}} This troper's]] main reason for playing

''TheSims'' (the first game) was to drown her Sims, and other people's Sims, in the pool. At one point, I was hired by a friend to kill off his Sim's other love interest for him. Similarly, the only reason I played ''SimCity'' was to cause natural disasters. During this time, [[EnfanteTerrible I hadn't yet started elementary school.]] * In ''L.A. Noire'', I like to drive into people, lamp posts, benches, trashbins, stands, signs, street lights, etc. I do that JUST to irritate Cole's partners. XD In a later section of the game, you get to drive your partner's car. Cue me destroying the partner's car again and again and again. * This one enjoys using cheats to spawn up a hundred white {{Pikmin}} and leaving them to die in an area where the night time limit spawns creatures that kill pikmin by eating them, not only do the white pikmin die, if the monsters get enough of a mouthful of them, they can die too. * This troper remembers finding inexpressable joy the first time he killed a little sister in Bioshock 2. Said troper's sister was there and asked why he did it, in which I replied "Because I could". Near the end of the game when I found Eleanor was acting like Daddy,I never felt more proud. * This troper was introduced to the game {{Rise of Nations}} by her father, who also taught her that There's No Kill Like Overkill. 2 years afterward, and she still found great delight in making it so she controlled all nations, make 7 of those 8 nations stick 200 citizens each into the middle of the board, and then kill them all with rocket artillery. * This troper enjoys TheSims for many, many reasons... my most diabolical experiment was when I made a woman called Test Subject #83 [[{{Homestuck}} wwhatevver]]. I put her into a lot that had all the neccesary items to survive, albeit crammed into a one-room house that was only big enough for those things and some walking room. The house was 3x5 squares big. I had a stone wall leading out to the garbage can, but Test Subject #83 couldn't get anywhere else. She freaked out about the garbage for a while, then complained about the newspaper, then I felt merciful and gave her a large painting. However, right after that I used the moveobjects cheat and moved one of my friend's Sims who happened to be walking by into the room. She was also a girl... so naturally I used boolprop to make them fall in love. Then they got joined, and ''then'' I proceeded to make them argue until Test Subject #83 broke up with her. I wasn't done just yet. THEN I slowly started to delete things in the room until only the lightbulb and some really filthy cups and plates were everywhere. She wouldn't die, so I made her alien pregnant, sped up the pregnancy, accidentally created another person in the family using boolprop. (and killed her accordingly) Test Subject #83 finally had the alien, but it turned out to be TWINS. I named them [[{{Homestuck}} Eridan and Feferi.]] Aaaand then I made Test Subject die using the Tombstone of L and D. Eridan and Feferi were left with no one. And oh it was so fun. * This troper like to run people over with the Knight Bus in the Level Builder in LEGO Harry Potter Years 1-4. Running over Voldemort is quite satisfying. Also, QWOP is fun to make the poor guy flip over and faceplant.

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ViewerGenderConfusion * This troper had a classmate in high school who always wore black jackets and jeans, had a deep voice, tended to be outspoken and boisterous in class, and was very comfortable hanging out with the guy crowd. The only thing that prevented this troper from automatically labeling this classmate as male on first impression was the unmistakably female name on "his" name tag (turned out to be a good thing she saw that, as said classmate went by a [[GenderBlenderName gender-ambiguous nickname]] all the time...), and even then, trying to see "him" as a girl nearly broke her brain. She isn't alone in this case; her aunt was initially puzzled to see a guy as the salutatorian until she saw that the "guy" had a dress on underneath "his" robes. ** So far as I know, the salutatorian role has never been traditionally female, so, what? *** Maybe she was informed that this year it would be, otherwise you got me. *** Original troper here: It's because I told her beforehand that the salutatorian was a female classmate of mine (in contrast with the male valedictorian), which is why she got puzzled when she saw a "male" there instead. * This troper's male cousin has been confused for a girl before. Justified in that he wears his hair almost to his shoulders, has yet to reach puberty, watches "Hannah Montana" and other girly shows, wears purple, and lets me put his hair up in pigtails... (And, no, he's not gay - he's crushing on one of his stepsiblings' female friends.) * this troper wishes people would stop trying to "figure out" the genders of her genderqueer and transgender friends. It's not anyone's business, you know? Imagine how jarring it must feel to have people constantly staring at you when you go out in public, analyzing you, eyeballing you like you are something floating in a jar in formaldehyde. * I was confused about what Benimaru's gender is and was quite surprised when I realized that she's supposed to seem masculine to fool people into thinking she's a guy. Say it with me folks, in my view, Benimaru is ''a lady that looks like a dude who looks like a lady''. Or was it King? I don't know, some character from some fighting game. ** [[http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/Benimaru_Nikaido Benimaru]] is male. You're probably thinking of [[http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/King King]], from the same series. * This troper knew a kid in 3rd grade who had his hair in long dreadlocks past his shoulders. Being the first boy he had seen with long hair, he immediately thought he was a girl. In 8th grade tech

class, he was partnered with a girl who looked like the Star Wars kid, but with curlier hair. In high school, he and a few friends often wondered if a punk one year below them was actually a guy, due to his feminine looks, feathered hair, and skinny jeans. * [[@/PotatoBucket This individual]] has been on both the giving and receiving end of this trope: ever since he grew his hair out, he's been mistaken for a girl/woman on several occasions and, in high school, there was a girl (who was a lesbian, thus furthering his confusion) whom he didn't know ''was'' a girl until she took off her big, downy jacket to reveal sizeable boobs. * [[@/GwenStacyWannabe This troper]] used to be mistaken for a boy a lot in preschool, due to her shoulder-length hair and (apparently) masculine features. Then there was the time in second grade that a kid a year older than her asked "Why do you have a boy's voice?" (This troper is and has always been an alto, and is also often mistaken for her brother on the phone.) [[ThereAreNoTherapists This might be why, now, she refuses to let her hair get any shorter than elbow-length.]] * And This Troper here has a friend working on a webcomic (Goddites is the prototype name), and saw one of the panels and said 'what's that character's name?'. Character's name was Audio. He had one of those long bangs on one side but cropped short everywhere else hair cuts and wore head phones and sprouted a monstrous bell thing with Doc Oct blades from his back. Surprise, it's a twelve year old girl whose nickname is Audio, but her real name is... of all things, Klaudia. This troper fails to see the pun in the name. ** Also worth mentioning is that the little girl travels around a After the End/Possibly Crapsack World WITH THREE BISHONENS AND AN ELF CHICK. * One of this troper's teachers once asked him if a classmate of Japanese descent was male or female. Given that the school uniform was the same for both genders and he was something of a bishonen (as well as having some rather feminine mannerisms), it was somewhat understandable. This troper himself also got confused for a girl a few times when he was about 5 and let his hair grow out. * Despite being Straight Gay, Racha is often mistaken for a boy by strangers. This is particularly irritating when she's at work and a name badge is prominently displayed. * @/{{Griffin}} was mistaken for a boy before in real life. Since she had just gotten a haircut and tends to wear loose clothing, she guesses it's understandable. Nonetheless, she was still quite insulted. * I'm mistaken for a guy every couple of months on average even after finishing growing up, but two cases when I was a child/pre-teen stand out in my mind: ** Once on World Savings Day at the bank, the teller gave me two of the giveaways, "one for you, and one for your sister", not realising that the girl's name on the account was mine. ** A magician called the "young man in the first row" up to the stage. Took me a moment to figure out he was addressing me, but on the plus side, just giving my name made the entire audience laugh. * This troper used to work at a deli in a grocery store. The choice was a tie or some kind of ladylike bolo-bow, and she chose the tie.

Unfortunately a black tie worn in conjunction with short hair under a baseball cap, a white men's work shirt, chest-obscuring apron, and her alto voice meant she got called "sir" by customers until she started [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics caking on the mascara]]. * This troper has run into a few individuals who thought they were the opposite gender until he heard them speak, for example there was this very skinny guy at a garage sale with long hair, a very feminine type of face, and appeared to have breasts. We thought he was a girl until we heard him speak with a fairly deep voice. Another time there appeared to be a gay man dressed in leather dancing at a party as it turns out it was a lesbian with very short hair. * This troper once roleplayed the Pokemon Darkrai, which canon states is genderless. She soon ended up in an argument with people who insisted it was male, since he/it is often shipped with a female character, and is offhandedly referred to as male in a spinoff game. It's important to note that the anime isn't in the same continuity as the main games, and [[PokemonMysteryDungeon said spinoff series]] likely isn't either. One other person added in that it could be female, since he/she/it has [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics what looks kinda like a skirt]], and the stones around its neck could be interpreted as a necklace. To keep the peace, this troper just agreed with the majority and began referring to Darkrai as a male. ** [[@/AntipathicZora This troper]] refuses to believe Darkrai is anything but a girl. [[ItMakesSenseInContext Especially after having to write for one that was pregnant...]] * This troper spent TWO WEEKS sitting next to a person in class she could not figure out the gender of. She finally decided s/he was male. Later, she found out s/he was bisexual. Oh, and she can truthfully say s/he does not have breasts. My friends and I had to stuff the bust of the wedding dress we put him/her in to make it fit. ** Wait, their sexual orientation resolved your gender confusion? I presume you mean they're like, an androgyne or possibly transgender, but I'm perfectly willing to think "yay for bisexuals!" and move on. * This troper once met a friend of her cousin, looked like a slim not very tall teen boy with a very androgynous face, no breasts, tried to guess the gender by the voice, no success as it was really androgynous too. When my cousin and I were finally alone I dared to ask... she was a girl, with a very girlish name but most people actually make that mistake. It annoyed her to be treated as boy by her teachers but didn't mind when girls she fancied did, he even made out with some clueless ones who didn't even notice. * This troper has had a couple of these experiences: ** When I was fifteen and starting at a new school, I noticed (from a name list) that there were a total of three guys in my class. Not all of said guys showed up during the first week, so I ended up assuming a female classmate to be one of them. To be fair, said classmate wore loose hoodies, was skinny with narrow hips, had shorter hair than the actual males and wore no make-up. ** A few years later, I had to attend a course with dressmaking students, who I had come to expect to be exclusively female. Within a few hours I realized that one of them was, in fact, male. He wore the kind of clothes that are common for both genders and actually didn't

have all that feminine a face, but he wore make-up and his body language was exactly like that of his female classmates'. * This troper grew a beard so that strangers would stop referring to him as "miss" by mistake. * This troper once attended a family reunion, where she met a distant cousin of ambiguous gender. Asking around, she got several conflicting answers. From family members. Yeah. * This troper went to high school with a girl named Angela who's about six feet tall, broad-shouldered, flat-chested, and has hair of that just-above-the-shoulders length that looks perfectly ordinary on boys and girls. And while all the other girls wear black dresses for orchestra, she wears a black shirt and trousers like the boys - that's about when I started wondering if she's transgendered. On the other hand, the shirt and trousers does just look better on her than a dress would. * This troper was just told by a girl that "I'd kiss you if you were a boy". It must be the [[RapunzelHair hair]]. * This troper had a friend in high school named Danny who had long hair, tie-dye shirts and talked just like Rocky from Rocky And Bullwinkle. He(she?) was kinda scrawny as well. * This is a staple at gay pride festivals. Aside from the obvious {{Drag Queen}}s/Kings and transgendered people, there have been times when [[@/DesertDragon this troper]] looked at someone from a distance, thought "He's cute, I wonder if he's single...", only to realize upon closer inspection that "his" hairline wasn't quite right for a man and "he" had small breasts, and that this troper had been checking out a ButchLesbian the entire time. * This troper was extremely effeminate as a child and was often mistaken for a girl, but a few rather... notable examples come to mind... ** When this troper was about four he met some friends of his parents who had never met either him or his sister. As she wasn't there at the time, they assumed he was her. A particularly egregious case given that she was one at the time... ** When this troper was about seven he was on a cruise for a family reunion. On the first night he went to a magic show and was called up to help the magician as his "lovely assistant"... ** When this troper was about nine he played a non-speaking role in some opera (he forgets which). He was originally told he couldn't audition as the part was a boy. Fortunately the director of the opera knew this troper and cleared things up immediately, but still... *** Luckily when this troper turned twelve and started going through puberty he became much more masculine, to the point he's now almost brutish in appearance. Now if only he could find something in between... * This (male) troper is invariably assumed to be female by telemarketers. Also, he once procrastinated way, way too long over getting a haircut and ended up being mistaken for female by strangers in the supermarket. * This troper is called ma'am with a regularity that his friends find truly humorous, at work, in a shirt and tie, with a couple days worth of facial hair growth.

** He's also been told by ANGRY straight identifying men or gay identifying women that he is "too pretty to be a boy", and as he is currently 27 years old, is fairly sure puberty isn't waiting in the wings to change anything. * This troper had a classmate in middle school who went by Nicky, had a deep voice, nothing in the way of chest... imagine my surprise when halfway through the semester I found out Nicky was short for Nicole. * This troper, being a transboy whose voice gives him away and whose chest is as stubborn as all hell [hoodies help!], nonetheless actively cultivates this in places where he's not known. He likes to keep running tabs on all the "is that person male or female?" looks he gets. It's a look with which he is intimately familiar. * Some years ago me and a friend went to a Cyber Cafe which was mostly used for LAN gaming (this was before broadband, when online gaming was a little clunky). I left early as I needed to get the bus, and afterwards when my friend was on his own, one of the other gamers got talking to him and mistook me for a girl. I did have long hair at the time (still do, in fact it's even longer now). Then again, at least once I was "seen out with a girl" which turned out to be said friend (who also had, and has, long hair, and other than being tall even by male standards, is far more girly than me). Annoyingly though, the few times I've hoped people would think I was a girl (usually when buying something girly or childish, not something I make a habbit of, but it happens from time to time) they end up calling me "sir". Of cource, if asked it would be for my girlfriend, or sister, but they never ask. * [[DragonMaster Me]] and my mother were once walking along somewhere when some random bloke we passed just said "Hello ladies" probably because he ''liked'' one of us. In retrospect I should have turned around and said that I was a 14 year old male. * On a game [[@/JET73L This Troper]] plays called [[LowestCosmicDenominator Lands of Illithia]], one of the admins has a personalized, chibi-fied Angel avatar that looks completely female in the version cropped for the forum, and it doesn't help that I used to constantly [[IReadThatAs misread his name as]] Kestrel. Narrowly avoided thanks to this troper's past, which taught him in several ways never to assume gender (although it is hilarious to see someone try to go from calling you "ma'am" to "man" after turning around and revealing the beard under the NewAgeRetroHippie Hair). * Screw Mister "I'm the Page Pic For the Trope", until I played the game, [[RitiTroll I]] thought ''Zidane'' was a girl. Not in the least because I had a female friend who looked a frell-load like him, only we were 12. Although I think I always knew Kuja was a guy. [[strike: And in a set of sketches I've done redesigning the characters from IX, Kuja gets more manly in dress but more flamboyant in other ways while Zidane... is kind of the same]] * This troper (despite being straight-acting and wearing clothes and hair similar to any other fairly masculine working class boy) didn't hit puberty very well and is small and slight with feminine Slavic features. He actually lost a few johns he was trying to pick up because they thought he was a girl in drag. Working as a male prostitute. Somehow. * This lurker's friend honestly thought [[{{Naruto}} Itachi]] was

female when he was first appeared against Asuma/Kurenai in the manga. It took the corresponding anime scene and the voice of CrispinFreeman to convince him otherwise. He'd only seen that one page out of the entire series, and therefore missed all the references to Sasuke's [[{{GratuitousJapanese}} Nii-san]], so I guess it's not too unreasonable * A counsellor at my summer camp had short-cropped hair, an ambiguous chinline, and unisex clothes. I took them for male until I heard their voice, a soft lilt -- and then they turned out to be male all along. What's worse, they couldn't see what I was talking about and thought it was extremely strange I should ask. (''Still'' can't see them as male...) * ThisTroper went to "Nerd Camp" with [[GenderBlenderName Frances]], an afro-having, jeans-and-polo-shirt-wearing girl who spent the first week being apologized to for all the ''he''s and ''sir''s she recieved. ** ThisTroper also gets a lot of this herself, proving that TertiarySexualCharacteristics -- short hair, androgynous clothes, and a newsboy cap, in her case -- matter more than GagBoobs and HartmanHips in determining gender. * This troper has blue eyes and used to have blonde hair, which apparently automatically means "girl!" On the other side, one of his females friends used to be called a boy when she was younger. [[{{Most Common Superpower}} That doesn't happen anymore...]] * This troper has this kind of problem, SPECIALLY in my ID Pictures (Last time I voted, somebody asked me: "Why are you carrying a girl's ID?). And I'm not even the "Bishonen" kind of girly look (that would be cool, at least, I could get lucky with otaku chicks), I just look as a weird lesbian. * This male troper had been mistaken by a girl several times before I hit puberty (and even then it was hard to tell). But there is one occasion that sticks out most. One in middle school when I was walking with his best friend, and some guy sticks his head out a nearby bus window to pretty much say that I was hot. In all fairness, I had shoulder-length curly hair, a high-pitched voice, long eyelashes, and feminine stance, but it was still disturbing. BrainBleach please? * [[@/{{Pikachukid}} This troper]] knew someone who once accidentally had a man follow her into the girl's loo. To be fair, about the only feminine aspect this girl had when clothed was not particularly obvious. This did once result in the following conversation (when she wore a tux to a concert): --->'''Troper:''' ...you ''are'' a girl, aren't you?\\ '''Friend:''' Yes. (groping) I have lumps. You're a guy, aren't you? Don't demonstrate that! * This troper is called female about half the time by anyone who doesn't know me. This is probably due to my long, [[strike: shoulder length]] now past my shoulders length hair that curls at the bottom occasionally, my shortness, my high voice, and my skinniness. I'm also often mistaken as female (or my mom) on the phone pretty much EVERY time if its someone who doesn't know me. I actually find this rather amusing and enjoy the reactions this gets. * While not regularly by any stretch of imagination, this male troper

has been confused for a gal on occasion. Including on my way to the bathroom. I blame the glasses. * This troper was at the Husky Football Cheer Night, which was basically a halftime show in which the field was completely taken over by cheerleaders from various high schools/other cheer organizations. 99% of these cheerleaders were girls, and the few boys could be spotted simply because they weren't moving. Except for one boy, who this troper's father and her only managed to figure out was a boy due to the lack of pompoms (because this kid was just as cheer-y as the girls on either side) and use of binoculars to confirm the hypothesis. * This troper's ex-girlfriend (and said ex's ''mother'') both thought, upon first seeing this troper, that she was a boy. Granted, this troper had ''extremely'' short hair at the time, and tends to wear male-looking/made-for-guys clothes (she is currently wearing a boys' Batman shirt), but seeing as the ex and her mom saw this troper at the "welcome to high school, freshmen" party for an ''all-girls' school'', this troper is rather more amused by it than usual. ** She was also called a guy at a Yu-Gi-Oh! card swap around the same time. The boy who had done so apologized ''a lot''... this troper is pretty sure it was mainly because she and her friend were the only girls there over 10. ** (This troper also does occasionally go out of her way to dress in a [[AmbiguousGender relatively androgynous way]], especially at Model UN, where western business attire is required -- this troper has not yet worn a skirt to any of the 3 conferences she has attended.) * This (female) troper has rather androgynous features, prefers more unisex clothing styles, and is lacking in the curves department. In photos from when I had shorter hair, I look like a boy. I've even been asked "Are you a feminine looking guy or a weird looking girl?" I've also been asked if I "used to be a guy". The confusion tends to end when I speak since my voice is fairly feminine. * This troper was watching Michael Jackson videos on TV in the early nineties and was quite impressed with the "pretty girl" in the pirate shirt singing and dancing. * [[Tropers/PentiumMMX2 This troper]], when he was little, was always mistaken for a girl by people who didn't know him. It went on for most of my childhood; even when dressing as a male character for Halloween, people simply think I'm a girl dressing like a boy. It finally came to an end once I hit puberty; then, people could tell I was, in fact, male. Sometimes, I look back and wish that at least once, I had [[WholesomeCrossdresser dressed like a girl]] to further convince them before I [[DroppedABridgetOnHim drop a Bridget on them]], just for the fun of messing with people's heads. * This troper once spent most of a semester trying to figure out if the TA was male or female. Short hair, high voice, flat-chested... and Chinese, so I couldn't tell from the name. I finally decided on female. After having decided on male. ** Also, a girl I'd seen around on campus... I'd thought "''she's really not all that good-looking'', and then she came up to where I was working and ordered dinner. In an extremely unambiguously masculine voice. Oops. * @/{{Siiner}} is currently only not mistaken for female by the fact

that he is a BASS, and tends to wear skin tight shirts with baggy raver pants to avoid the "Flat chested goth chick" appeal. And I still get called "Ma'am" more often than sir. Must be because I don't talk much. * This troper's had people mistake her for a boy on numerous occasions. When she was small, it was understandable, as she had short hair, wore neutral clothes, and was constantly falling out of some tree or other. Later on, her voice turned out to be fairly low, which didn't help (every so often she'd answer the phone and be asked, "Hi, is Dr./Mrs./Mr./whichever title they were using for either parent in? ...Oh, is this their son?" and end up with flustered apologies) and she got pretty tall. She also, however, has very long hair, a fairly obvious chest, and even more obvious hips. This ''still'' hasn't stopped people from mistaking her; going down the walkway of her old school one day, a couple of boys were heard wondering about her gender. * This troper's cousin has a a very feminine face and used to have fairly long-ish hair. Before he cut his hair and his voice changed, it wasn't that hard to mistake him for a girl... * This Troper intentionally created a male character with this trope in mind. She gave him shoulder-length hair, a tunic long enough it could be mistaken for a dress and HartmanHips. Yes, you heard right. Viewer reactions were priceless! * This somewhat flat-chested (yet wide-hipped) Tropette has been mistaken for male ever since she started wearing her hair short; the first instance happened the day after she first had her waist-length hair cropped to ear-length, and an old lady at her job addressed her as "Sir". Said Tropette replied, "I'm a Miss", plus she was also wearing a long skirt. The old lady then glared at her as if to say "Don't contradict me, you cross-dressing young whipper-snapper". * A while ago, I was on holiday in Egypt and a trader at Edfu asked my mother if I was her son. Now, I know I'm not particularly attuned with the feminine arts, but I'm not ''that'' mannish! * More of a listener gender confusion, but I was told my reaction to finding out that Cher's hit single ''Believe'' was, in fact, sung by a woman was priceless. * One of my best friends in primary school was a boy with very long curly hair and a thin face that could be mistaken for a girl at first glance. One time in class he was sitting next to another friend, who was feeling depressed for some reason; the substitute teacher said to the depressed boy, "Why are you so sad? You're sitting in-between two beautiful girls!" My poor friend had to raise his hand and say, "Um, I'm a boy." (Incidentally, I saw him a few months ago and he still has the hair, but has now grown a thick beard.) * Apparently all this troper has to do to pass for a boy is wear a baggy shirt and not talk much. This is odd, as she has long hair and more or less feminine features. It may have something to do with her dislike for skirts and makeup. She's not very girly. In fact, a male friend once told her she didn't understand women. * This troper thought the redhaired Stygian Triplet of ''{{Dogma}}'', played by Barrett Hackney, was female. Something about the hair, the sneery expression, and the fact that this troper was brought up in an

English private school, where hockey is seen as a decidedly feminine game. Someone else commented on a devArt picture of them making lewd comments about Barrett under the assumption that he was a girl, until this troper set him straight and apparently induced a StupidSexyFlanders moment. * This troper has known a few confusing girls: I went to elementary school with two sporty-looking girls: one was slim with short hair and the other was muscular with long-ish hair, and both had gender-neutral names. While the slim girl wore girly shirts every once in a while, the stocky girl never did and it took me a while to make sure she was female. ** When I got to college there was a PerkyGoth cosplayer girl who could've easily been mistaken for a boy (she ''loved'' dressing as male characters, especially [[{{Naruto}} Ero-sennin and Sasuke]] and for a second I thought she was the deliberately confusing Japanese lab tech on ''{{Bones}}'') if it weren't for her painfully large breasts (she talked about getting them reduced), and on a lesser note there was a girl who looked like the nail salon lady from ''LegallyBlonde'' and talked like a stereotypical gay guy - I had to do a double-take to make sure she wasn't an exceptionally good drag queen. ** Also, years of anime knowledge confused me when I started hearing about ''Avatar'' -- why is [[{{Naruto}} Haku]] trying to kill that short wizard from MagicKnightRayEarth? * This Troper intentionally went for this reaction by playing as [[OsuTatakaeOuendan Shinta]] during a multiplayer game. To quote her friend: "Aww, you took the only girl!" Same friend later went over some confusion as to whether the {{Persona}} protagonist was a boy or a girl. Granted, I personally think both would look good [[AttractiveBentGender in dresses]], but still! [[{{Persona4}} Then again...]] * This troper has above shoulder-length brown hair, an androgynous face, is kind of chubby, and is interested in Mario, Sonic, and Legend of Zelda. I have a really deep voice and wear male boxers. I speak in a masculine pattern and to add on top of that, her name is Jordan. (Her middle name is Rose, but she abbreviates it to make people guess) Not to mention, she's incredibly tall and strong. * This troper used to be a tomboy for years, wore gender-ambigious clothes and had a short haircut, but nobody ever mistook her for a guy, probably because they already knew her (she lived in a place that was almost like a village) and because her face and voice aren't that close to a guy's. But then she moved to a different place, and had to change her entire wardrobe to make people believe that she's not a guy. * [[@/MidnightVelvet This troper]] experienced being on the receiving end of this as a child (up until about 14 when he got all ugly and troll-faced), and now knows a rather sizeable amount of people who fit this trope. Apparently this troper likes hanging out with people whose gender he can't tell easily. On an semi-related note, this troper recalls a certain conversation with a cousin about the flaws of JRPGs when said cousin notes that not being able to tell the male characters from the female irks him, pointing out a specific example of being very, [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean very]] attracted to a certain character,

then freaking out upon realizing said character was male. Que this troper laughing hysterically over the phone for about 5 whole minutes. * This (male) troper was surfing channels and came across a volleyball match. The camera angle was such that there was close-up of one player's bottom on the screen. The troper started feeling really awkward because he got mildly aroused by what he was seeing. Then the camera switched back to the wide angle, showing the Troper that he was actually watching a Women's league game. * This troper's step-mom went to use the restroom in a movie theatre once and a little old lady promptly dragged her out by her ear. My step-mom is a very large woman who also happens to keep her hair buzzed. Also, she was seeing a movie with my mom (my parents are lesbians), which probably didn't help. All in all, it was quite funny in hindsight... * This troper once went to an acting convention. On the first day, he sat at a table with several other students, one of whom had a very angry looking face hidden behind sunglasses and a short, spikey hair cut. This troper assumed it was a boy, but when 'he' stood up, he had ''boobs''. Turns out ''he'' was actually a very butch ''she''. Go figure. * This troper has a classmate that is extremely prone to this. The first instance was when she was paired with the classmate for an RE project on world religions. Classmate promptly mistook a goddess for a god. The second instance was this year, with a Media Studies project, and classmate mistook ex-PM Margaret Thatcher for a man. Sort of justified, as she never saw pictures of either individual. * This troper was on a school trip when she saw one of her fellow travellers. Their name was [[GenderBlenderName Parker]]. They wore trunks and had a boy's voice, but they also had long blonde hair and braided their hair. This troper cept her mouth shut and hoped for a sign on whether they were a {{Bishonen}} or a {{Bifauxnen}}. Finally, their name was revealed to be be [[EmbarrassingFirstName Gwendeline]] and thus female; Parker was her middle name. Acording to her, even her parents were confused when she was in the womb. * OK, so ThisTroper has the MostCommonSuperPower and HartmanHips, and while I wish it weren't quite so uh, prominent, BabyGotBack. But apparently this isn't enough: a PrinceValiant Haircut and big shoulders plus a bit of above average height, and I still get called "Sir" on a regular basis. Anyone got a likely explanation? Is it about walking wrong, or something? ** Maybe they think you're just trying too hard and thus MUST be a male pretending to be a female? * This has happened to this troper over the phone. Twice. While at his grandparents house, someone called for them. When I said they weren't home, they asked if I was their grand''daughter''. The second time it happened, I said, in a very irriated tone, "No, this is their grand'''son'''." That person has never called again. ** [[{{Glee}} "She's dead, this is her son."]] * [[@/NoLilyOnMyGrave This troper]] had a girl in her 6th grade PE class... with a super short hair cut, torn up jeans, and decidedly masculine mannerisms. From sixth grade all the way to graduation, she wore a dress only once - a band concert in eighth grade where dresses

were required. She was also the only one allowed to wear a pantsuit instead of a dress for graduation. * This troper has been accused of actively encouraging this trope. Between not subscribing to standard gender in general, kinda male 70's rockstar-ish hair most of the time, clothing choices and binding, it's not surprising to that I've heard the phrase, "Is that a guy or a girl?" said sotto voice about me a few times. Also, been called sir, I get apologized profusely to when I speak as I try to explain that I don't really care. I'm skinny apparently and have unisex hair, boobs do give me away when I chose to have them though. * This troper, way back when she was eight, recieved her first Pokemon game for Christmas: Crystal. I was playing away when I saw the rival character, with his long red hair and bishonen androgony. Later, what does said troper name the rival? Rita. His hair and general apearance fooled my fragile childs mind into thinking he was a girl, and so I named him appropriatly. It was only much later that I realised my mistake (along with the fact that I'd misspelled "Squirtie", the name for my Totodile, as "Squitie". Much laughs were had). Yeah, this troper was an awesome(ly ditzy) eight year old. * This troper never had problems being identified as a male in real life; however, in a somewhat funny inverse of {{GIRL}}, he ''has'' been mistaken for a girl online...several times. This is because he didn't talk rudely about women (might, at worse, say "She's cute" but never "She's so hot" or anything coarser like that), was very concerned about and railed against sexism (to the point that most people thought I was a woman complaining about sexism), dislikes toilet and sexual humor (which, supposedly, is a guy thing), and generally was believed to act too meek and mild to really be a guy. It didn't help that my very common last name, which was part of my handle for a couple of years, is also a female first name, which people assumed ''was'' my first name for no reason. Several times they would ask "Hey, you're a girl, right?" and they would act shocked (and disappointed) that I would respond "Actually, I'm a guy." And even after he adopted a male avatar, some people just began assuming I was a girl pretending to be a guy. There's a reason I tend to lurk more than I used to online... * This troper, apparently due to being short, slim, Asian, and effeminate, is mistaken for a girl a few times a month. It was worse when he had long hair. He would be called "miss" or "ma'am" a few times a week. * This troper saw at least two people at her town's fair that had completely indeterminable genders. One was very skinny with boy-short hair and androgynous pretty features, and the other had medium-ish hair and equally unhelpful facial features. * [[{{FairyDreamer}} This troper]] is always being mistaken for a boy, though not as much recently. When she was a little, she was thought to be a boy because of the boyish clothes she wore. Apprently, nobody noticed the pigtails she wore her hair in everyday. Now, as a teenager, she's mistaken for a boy merely because her hair is very short despite that she wears feminine clothing (unless she's wearing a dress or skirt, which isn't often). An example: One time in her social studies class, when she was 14, the class had to choose a partner for

a class assignment. A boy in the class said he wanted to be partners with "the boy wearing the pink shirt." The class looked around for who he described and he pointed to her. When everyone stared at him after they saw who he was pointing at, he asked why everyone was staring at him and she nicely said that she's a girl, not a boy and stood so he could see her full outfit (which was a pink floral tunic, flower jeans, heels and a blue headband with a flower on it) and also told him her name. His response was, "Oh, sorry. I forgot your name. I just thought you were a boy who liked pink." Another classmate said, "Yeah, to be honest, we all used to think you were just a boy with a girl's name until we saw you wearing a skirt a month ago." Well, at least they weren't intolerant of people. But still, it wasn't that hard to tell that this troper was a girl! * I think someone did the Real life equivalent of a natural one on a spot check on me - They mistook me for a girl despite that I ''HAD STUBBLE''. * Watching La Roux performing on, er, some New Years type show with my mom: -->'''Mom:''' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elly_Jackson He]] sounds like a girl. -->'''Me:''' That ''is'' a girl. * This is one of those things that always confuses me. I mean transgendered people are usually easy to spot as they tend to be adults and have more obvious features that show if they are a guy or not (adam's apple, broad shoulders, hands, etc being the easiest). But you sometimes see teenagers who you can't spot the gender of straight away. That confuses me. If they are straight, it makes no sense, as the opposite sex is unlikely to be attracted to what they can assume is the same gender. If they are gay, it makes a bit of sense, as they may assume other gay people are attracted to the same gender looking like women (ie: "butch" lesbians). I think its hilarious if they ever get offended by being called the wrong gender though. If you portray yourself as an "either gender" person, you have no right to complain if people call you the wrong gender. Though it's rather disturbing when they do it just to troll people as there must be some severe pyschological problem there. ** [[{{Transsexual}} Here's some reading for you.]] It should give you a little more insight on the subject. * This troper was walking near a college campus, holding hands with a guy, when a truckfull of screaming people yelling "WOOOOOOOOO!" passed them. It would have gone unnoticed, if the truck hadn't stopped and backed up. Then a guy leaned out said "We're sorry, we thought you were a guy." So polite bigots. Yeah. * This female troper has recently started seeing a guy with long hair past his shoulders (she has a thing for that). He's kinda tall and lanky, but, as I put it, "guy pretty". Anyway, he's mentioned to me that in the past, to his frustration, he's been mistaken for a girl. A week or so ago we were hanging out downtown, just talking, when this random dude was walking by. When he saw us he asked, "Do you two lovely ladies have a dollar?" I looked down to hide my giggling since the guy I was with had mentioned, not ten minutes prior, a time when he overheard another guy asking someone if he was male or female. He

said no in as deep a voice as he could. The random dude said, "Oh, woops! Lady and gentleman!" and walked on. Unfortunately, it doesn't help that [[{{GenderBlenderName}} he has a gender-neutral name]]. ** Same troper has also been mistaken for a guy. Twice. Once was when I was about fifteen and first met a couple friends in my art class. I had short hair and wore a baggy hoodie all the time, and the friends told me later that they didn't know I was a girl until I spoke to them. Second time was when I was on the train that same year. I was wearing a dress under the hoodie (which was zipped up) and the hoodie hid most of the dress. An attendant was showing someone to their seat, which was next to me. The attendant pointed to the seat and said something along the lines of, "next to him." Looking back on it, it's pretty funny, but at the time I was just confused since I thought it was clear that I'm a girl. (In the attendant's defence though it's clear now since I don't dress as tomboyish as I used to.) * When I first heard [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YuSg4mts9E "Young Blood" by The Naked And Famous]] on the radio, I thought something along the lines of "Whoever's singing, he sort of sounds like a cross between the guy from Passion Pit and the guy from Silversun Pickups". As it turns out while there ''is'' [[VocalTagTeam a male vocalist in the band too]], the bulk of that song is sung by Alisa Xayalith. So in other words, I assumed a female vocalist was male because she reminded me of two different male vocalists who are commonly perceived as sounding female. Huh. * [[{{Pikachukid}} I]] was once friends with an openly gay woman who dressed in men's clothes (and, when I met her, had shaved off her hair for Shave For A Cure). Little to no actual gender confusion ensued, but she did once tell me about a man accidentally following her into the girls' toilet. * Is this troper the only one who, after becoming [[GenreSavvy so used to feminine men in manga/anime]] ends up assuming any character in that medium without overt secondary sexual characteristics (read: tits and ass) is a man? Of course, this ends up [[WrongGenreSavvy backfiring...]] * This somewhat butch troper has been mistaken for a guy on a few occasions, usually by older people though. She also has a friend whom she, upon first meeting him, wasn't sure what his gender was. He tends to wear his hair long and wears somewhat androgynous clothes, and it doesn't help that he has the unisex name Dan. * Last winter, this troper puts on a big coat and put her long hair in [[CompressedHair her beanie]] and went to the local shopping center. She soon ran into two girls around her age who asked her to a movie. Troper accepts despite never meeting them before. Once inside, troper removes her coat and hat, [[SamusIsAGirl revealing her breasts and long hair.]] Needless to say, [[DroppedABridgetOnHim those girls weren't too thrilled about the reveal.]] * This troper has been mistaken for a boy a total of five times so far, mostly by waiters. She isn't particularly pretty, got her hair cut shorter than some boys' less than a year ago, and has a tendency to wear loose-fitting clothing. A good example was when she was with a male friend, waiting for a female friend to change into her band uniform. A woman and her daughter went in after a rather polite

"Excuse us, gentlemen." After I realized what she'd said, I practically cackled and [[MissedMomentOfAwesome considered walking in to wash my hands just to confuse/frighten her.]] * I used to live life as a femme boy and got hit on/checked out by straight men, asked by nurses when the last time I had a pap smear, etc. Then I transitioned to female and finally got the confidence to cut my hair short. I got a job at a gas station where the uniform shirts were waaay too big for me and got called male pronouns pretty often by customers. It seems to be my accidental mission in life to confuse people. * This troper was at the bus stop recently and saw a kid (around 8-10 years old) with whom I'm assuming was his/her father. Said kid had chin-length hair and rather androgynous facial features. I never asked, though. Also, this troper's own little brother was mistaken for a girl at least once as a toddler before he got his first haircut. * I recently (ahem) acquired the GameBoyAdvance version of ''FinalFantasyV'' and couldn't decide if Faris was a dude or a chick. To clarify, Faris' portrait appears feminine, but the character's sprite gives them a manly swath of a chest when viewed from the side. I went with "girl". * This tropette knows a girl with very boyish features who wears her hair short. She's often mistaken for a boy, and gets teased. This troper has noticed recently that she's generally wearing more pink and more frills lately... Hope it's not because of teasing. ---Hmmm, is the ViewerGenderConfusion article male or female? I sure can't tell.. ---<<|TroperTales|>> <<|{{Networks}}|>>

ViewersInMourning * ''{{Concerned}}'': [[spoiler:Gordon Frohman]] *sniff*... I've even engaged in HesJustHiding for a while. Granted, [[{{Korodzik}} I]] was just an emotional teenager back when this happened. * [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi This tropette]] executed this trope at the death of [[spoiler:Yugi Mutou]] in YuGiOh's 4th season. Granted, it was only for 20 episodes, but... ---Go back to ViewersInMourning. This will make your favorite character happy in the afterlife.

ViewerStockPhrases * [[Tropers/HG131 HG131]] ** "You know, everything would have gone better if you had just listened to/done X." X normally refers to an Anti-Hero/Villain or evil or morally ambiguous act. ** "Hypocrite." This gets said whenever anyone acts hypocritical.

** I use various insults whenever someone annoys me in a work. ** "Just *insert character fate here* already!" Used when a character who I know gets killed/a really crappy fate is annoying me. For example, every time [[{{Sliders}} Wade]] would get annoying or preachy or stuck up or just say something I found idiotic (way to often, IMO) I would say/think "Oh, just get kidnapped by 'Maggs already, it'll improve the show!". ** "Close-minded *insert insult here*." Used whenever someone was, IMO, being close-minded. For example, in BuffyTheVampireSlayer whenever they would try not to expose Dawn to whatever (mainly sexual stuff). She was 14 in '''Season 5'''. The only people that by that age don't already know all that kind of stuff are hopelessly ignorant. ** "You IDIOT/MORON/FOOL/IGNORAMUS!" Whenever someone does something hopelessly stupid. * Bly ** "Warfare does not work that way!" ** "[insert name here] must be turning over in his grave so much, he's probably dug a hole to China." ** "...the fuck?" ** "Day-um." ** "Shit just got real." ** "Shit just got realer." ** "This problem could easily be solved with the judicious application of flashbangs/C4/.50 cal rounds." * This troper: ** "WHO wrote this??" - when watching a dumb TV show or movie ** "I wanna meet the dude who wrote this!" When watching a great show or movie ** "That's my Mutha-f'in {{Chuck}}!" - when Chuck Bartowski gets awesome. * SilentHunter: ** "Your roots need doing". ** "Ooh-er". ** "What is she ''not'' wearing?" ** "Oh, charming (!)"- on any particularly gory situation. ** "Introduced to a X"- got shot by whatever weapon X is. Not directly aware of the ProfessionalWrestling use, he coined it after seeing ''Film/TheBourneSupremacy''. ** "He's/She's/They're dead". ** "I say" ** "Oh, it's you"- for any recurring character. * @/BeingX: "Wait... What!?!?" -- Said after something either extremely confusing or extremely self-evident. * @/RedShoe: [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife Well, now I know how the entire episode is going to play out.]] -- Usually said just before the first commercial break. * @/SeanyGenovese: WHAT THE... THAT'S JUST... DAAUUUUGHH!!! ** NO! That's impossible! ** Really? Did you now? * @/LooneyToons: "Okay, this is what'll happen, because that's how ''I'' would write it." -- Said to my wife after five minutes' viewing of ''any'' program she's watching. (I'm right about 80% of the time.)

* @/RuthieA's Mom: "Would you just be quiet and watch the program!" (I have a really bad habit of pointing out tropes and predicting endings in TV shows and it annoys my mom to no end) * @/{{Scrounge}} ** "That's gotta hurt" ** "I want one of those" (generally after seeing something that would be totally impractical to own or doesn't actually exist, but looks really cool) ** "They'd make a cute couple." ** [[NightmareFuel "That's gonna give small children nightmares."]] * @/{{Fly}}: "Oh, forget it, I think that's the least problem with this thing." (Used just after pointing out FridgeLogic moments/extremely minor cosmetic issues/writing issues/science during a SnarkBait programme/game/film/fic.) * ManWithoutABody: "That looks like fun," usually said during scenes of a grueling nature. "Oh, bitches," said during IAmNotLeftHanded moments or other scenes of badassery. "Say the line!" when dealing with characters who refuse to utter their CatchPhrase (usually "[[Series/DoctorWho EXTERMINATE!]]". "Aw, poor guy," said when the male lead makes out with the beautiful female lead. * @/DrowLord: "Oh sh** ...": with varied punctuation and intonation, [[PunchPunchPunchUhOh for]] [[BerserkButton a]] [[UnstoppableRage variety]] [[NotSoFastBucko of]] [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass fun]] [[SuperpoweredEvilSide and]] [[GlowingEyesOfDoom suspenseful]] [[AndYourLittleDogToo situations]]. "What the meow...?!" For confusing situations. * @/{{Pro-Mole}}: "Hehehe, (insert non-dubbed joke in-here)", when detects a LostInTranslation moment; "What da?", when WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief is hardly and loudly broken; and "Okay, now I know how [[OnlySaneMan Frank Grimes]] felt", whenever watching TheSimpsons, specially the later episodes. * @/{{Lurkerbunny}}: "JUST DO IT ALREADY!": In response to, well, anything which is stretched out too long (the TV people would call it "dramatic tension" when it's really just trying to fill an hour/half hour). The worst offender was the ending of the ''LawAndOrderSVU'' episode "Fault" where... oh god, it's too long and horrible to type out. Just thinking about it makes me angry. Variant is "JUST KISS ALREADY!", for sexual tension situations. God knows how many times I've yelled this at ''MorkAndMindy''. * @/{{Meiriona}} "Enough goddamn flashbacks, get (back)to the FIGHT!" Used during Naruto, Bleach... hell, any shounen series that decides in the middle of a fight is a good time for a backstory to be introduced or elaborated on. "Sweet! (insert superhero name here) got owned!" including one very fun five minutes of chanting "Robin got owned, Robin got OWNED, Robin GOT OWNED" during season five of TeenTitans. "Stupid, STUPID girl." Every time the ending of {{Labyrinth}} is seen. Idiot girl doesn't know what she just gave up. * @/{{Stinkoman87}} : "Come on" or "Come on, use X," replacing X with an action : When e knows a character can do something to win, and is waiting. An example would be Byakuya fighting Renji. I know Renji can make his Bankai shoot up from the ground. When he is lying near-death on the ground and Byakuya is walking away, I was expecting that to

happen. * [[@/AcrossTheStars Across the Stars]] : "Bloody hell!!" Usually said in place of "Holy s** t!!" at appropriate moments. "Oh, shut up and ''kiss'' her already!!" Said with increasing frequency throughout [[HarryPotter Harry Potter]]. "Bloody finally!!" Uttered when the [[WillTheyOrWontThey Will They or Won't They]] couple finally do, or when the [[GenreBlind Genre Blind]] protagonists finally figure out the mystery/[[MonsterOfTheWeek Villain of the Week]]. * ''SLAP''* and/or ''"SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!"'' Any and every time [[AmericanIdol Randy]] says, "Check it out, baby, check it out." * Skazka: "But that was illegal!"/"You could be burned for that!" as a response to any out of place slashy subtext in a historical programfor example, The Tudors or the painfully uncomfortable-to-watch public display of affection between Captain Jack and the real Captain Jack in an episode of Torchwood set in the early 1940s. HoYay is a good thing. Ignoring social mores is not. Also- "It's a man! It's obviously a man! Tell me that's not a man." Any time a good looking woman has a medical condition of unknown origin- especially on medical dramas or crime shows. I will only stop repeating this once we've actually seen the naked corpse. That episode of {{Bramwell}} with Frederick the tragic, wholesome teenage crossdresser made me squeal like a shipper- because I was right, damnit! ** "And now they fly."/"Sparkle motion!" (Both indicative phrases for vampires. Or rather, vampyres.) ** "Hop on, spider monkey!" (A phrase implying a particular scene is reminiscent of ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''. Frequently engaged while watching ''[[InterviewWithTheVampire Interview]]''. ** "Kiss me, my liege!" (Unlikely romantic subplots in historical material, roleplaying games, and the like.) ** "Could I love him more?" ([[HoYay Manly man gazes being cast at manly man compatriots. Manlily]]) * Kitty: "What the crumpet/deuce?" for general WTF moments, "Why does that never happen to me?" for romance scenes, "I don't get it" for a big long explanation by Character A to Character B, "That was definitely not a good idea" for plans that don't work out so well, "Ooh, sexual tension" for sexual tension scenes, "You've got superpowers/a gun/etc., just kill him already" for the villain's monologue when the hero's obviously armed and could blow the villain away during his big evil speech, and one for the horror movies with the obligatory stupid teenager: "Don't answer the phone/open the door/go down that hallway/take the elevator/etc.!" * @/{{Bob}}: "Shocking." in a Deadpan tone of voice when something predictably happens. * @/{{Bisected8}}: "Gasps and shocks", used sarcastically in an exaggerated upper class accent. "Wait, I get it! X is [long ramble involving time travel, ninjas and various relatives]!" for example "Wait, I get it! Joe Bloggs is a robot clone of Jim's evil time traveling ninja twin's great grandson's step sister from 30 years into the future!" used when someone makes an EpilepticTrees type guess to the plot of something in regards to a new character. * @/{{Tabs}}: ** "[[SincerityMode "That task actually looks fun.]]"

** "Hey, [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife there's a trope for that!]]" ** "Uh-oh. Looks like someone [[DidntThinkThisThrough didn't think it through]]." ** "[[JustShootHim Kill him now! Hurry up!]] OHMYGOD WHY ARE YOU ''[[EvilGloating GLOATING NOW]]''? ** "I can't find Plot. Has anyone seen it? I'm pretty sure it was here an hour ago. Help me look..." * @/PhoenixFire: * pointing at various characters on the uncomfortable end of the SortingAlgorithmOfMortality* "Dead... dead... dead..." Also, quite a lot of variations on, "You ''idiot''. What is ''wrong'' with you?" * @/{{Moogi}}: "You bastard! You complete and utter bastard!" Said when characters do something horribly evil, and as a reference to TheYoungOnes. "Hey, I just got that." Delayed reaction to a joke. "StarWars FTW!" Said whenever a particularly clever StarWars reference is made. "You! Out of the gene pool!" Said when people act like idiots. When watching documentaries, I also frequently make up EpilepticTrees for the hell of it. * Moose: "Who's that guy? What did that guy say when I said who's that guy?" "That's so fake! Look, you can see the strings!" "Ooh, an octopus!" All from that one episode of the TheSimpsons, and usually when watching films with complex plots, brilliant CGI, and no octopi in sight. * @/{{Sikon}}: ** "X does not work that way!" - borrowed from Morbo. ** In Russian, loosely equivalent to "Of course!" (sarcastically) -when something really unrealistic happens. ** In Russian, "As if X would Y!" -- referring to illogical behavior. ** "Shoot him already!" -- in cases of JustShootHim. ** "Now it's simply ''bound'' to..." -- in predictable situations. * AK47x2: "Plot twist" in any situation; said in a tone of surprise or in a monotone depending on how good said plot twist was. Also, "Well, he's going through", when watching a talent show participant with a tearjerker story. * @/{{hszmv}}: "Ooh, Cold..." after an especially good plot twist (read: any ending to ''Heroes''). "Oh right, you met mom while doing x" where x equals the detailed description of lead in actions that force the hero and the romantic interest to finally kiss, which prompts my dad to inform the room at large that said sequence of events is exactly how he met his wife (i.e. Oh right, you met mom when you '''[[Main/PiratesOfTheCaribbean sailed to the ends of the earth and beyond so you could bring back your deceased pirate friend who was killed, incidentally I might add by mom in the last movie, so that he may lead you and a rag tag band of pirates from around the world in a grand charge against the flag ship that represents the unholy alliance of fish mutant sea devil and a tea company, became the one casualty when said sea devil pierced you with his own sword, still managed to stab him in the heart, which gave you his control of the ship and immortality and took mom to a honey moon on the beach? Oh, and you were married by another pirate captain during the battle?]]''')

* @/FreezairForALimitedTime: ** [[HoYay "OMG, slash!"]] ** [[{{UST}} "OMG, notslash!"]] ** "Not necessarily..." Generally said in response to something like, "That's impossible!" ** "You're thinking too hard." Whenever someone points out FridgeLogic, especially if it [[AcceptableBreaksFromReality doesn't really matter]], such as in a commercial. ** "Stop saying that!" Whenever a CatchPhrase is past its prime. ** "I see where this is going..." In the face of a ClicheStorm, one must keep one's head up. * @/{{Kilyle}}: ** ''Nanika o shite tteba!'' (Roughly, "Do something already!" in Japanese.) ** Also a few others that don't come to mind immediately, but usually are still in Japanese. Including "Save her!" and "Shut up!" Yes, I often chatter at the imaginary characters in Japanese. * @/{{Blayde}} ** ''Get ON with it!'' : When a scene, or the plot in general, drags on painfully. ** ''We're Primates! We use tools!'': Whenever a character fails to use simple mechanics or logic to solve a problem, like trying to pry open a door by hand rather than wedging something in it, or doing incredibly complicated equations by hand when there are computers that can do it with far greater efficiency. Frequently used in RealLife. ** ''She's gonnah bloo, Cap'n!'' : Just before an objects' imminent and [[StuffBlowingUp often gratuitous explosion]]. Sometimes used when PowerGlows is taken to the extreme conclusion. ** ''Phasers set to Miss!'' Any instance of ATeamFiring or graduates of the ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy. Shout out to {{MST3K}} * @/{{Otempora}}: ** IKnewIt, whenever she's figured out a plot twist. ** "Well, ''that'' was predictable." ** "Wait, why didn't he/she/they just do X instead of Y?" usually followed by "Oh, wait, because of [[TVTropesRuinsYourVocabulary Trope Z]]." ** (to UST) "Please. Like they're really going to get together in the end." * @/{{Angelus}} ** "Turn on the god-damned LIGHTS!" Used every time I watch CSI. * @/{{Leone}} ** "Who names their kid X?" -- said every time she encounters a ridiculously-named character (Or X (pronounced "Diez") Drake of ''OnePiece'', in which case the phrase was used verbatim) ** "Product placement!" -- shouted or loudly stage-whispered in response to...well, product placement. * @/{{Andygal}} ** "She's trying to kill you, you moron!" - said when a protagonist who WouldntHitAGirl is refusing to fight a female villain. ** (sarcastic) "How terribly unexpected" - when something terribly cliche and predictable happens.

** "Don't celebrate yet" - said when somebody in an anime series gets knocked into a pile or rocks/rubble or something, because they never die. ** "It took you THAT long to figure that out?" - when a character finally figures out something that any intelligent person would have figured out ages ago. * @/{{Dotdotdot}} ** When a predictable [[TwilightZoneTwist Twilight Zone]] or OuterLimitsTwist, ScareChord, ChekhovsGun or similar "surprise" moment is coming up, this troper and his friends have a habit of saying, for example (For a woman [[TooDumbToLive walking backwards or having premarital sex]] in a horror movie): "Aaaaaannnnd... She gets stabbed. Annnnnnnd... Stabbed. Stabbed. Aaaaand... she gets stabbed" Until the theoretical stabbing occurs. * @/{{Pisthetairos}} - "What a digital dummy!", when the AI does something stupid like casting "slow" on the party with everyone as a OneHitWonder. * Muselette - "Lovely..." said when something especially gorey, gruesome, or unpleasant happens. * @/{{LadyNorbert}} - "Plot point!" Said with varying degrees of snarkishness when a character says something that will have relevance to the storyline of the show/movie. The level of snark depends on how obvious, or oblivious, the speaker is.momen * KKDW - "Well that was easy" which would normally go with a moment the heroes are facing an impossible to beat villain then one of them gets a power up and beats the villain in one shot (phrase born while watching Digimon probably when Angewomon defeated Myotismon). Tyrekecorrea * [[CheckPlease "Check, please!]] ("Time to change the channel!") ** "You know what? Goodnight!" Especially when the Knicks are losing. * "Stop messing around (and go to bed)!" Occasionally, the local news team goes OffTheRails. * "HE SCORES!" New York Rangers, Goal * "Oh, (Goalie)! Wake up, (Goalie)!" * "Gentleman?" / "Ladies?" ("Can we ''please'' not fight?") * "{{Rerun}}!" *Changes channel* * "And I'll be skipping ''this.''" (Skip/ Search / Fast Forward / Next on playlist) * "Kicked ''your'' ass." ("Ha ha, OpposingSportsTeam!") * "Shut up, I can't think!" (Mute) ** "''[[HelloInsertNameHere Shut up, Insert Name Here!]]''" (Conduct foul imminent) * "[[UnnecessaryRoughness WHERE'S THE CALL?]]" ** "Time out!" ** "[[ShownTheirWork It was the right call.]] [[FanDumb Shut up."]] * [[PetTheDog "Good boy! / Good girl!"]] (Nice play!) * [[OhCrap Oh, crap!]] ** "OH, SHIT!" * "What the hell?" * [[FacePalm "Aw, dammit..."]] * [[ThisCannotBe "How...?"]]

* [[BigYes "YEAH!"]] * " God, I love [[BadassAdorable her]] / [[BadassCrew this team]] / [[SignatureMove that move]] / [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome this song."]] * "''[[SoProudOfYou That's]]'' [[SoProudOfYou my girl!]]" ** ''"Good job, Sweetheart!"'' *smooches* * "I love you." * @/{{Nomic}} ** Charming... (when something clearly isn't) ** Oh, great. (in the same situations as the above one) ** That was predictable... ** The Legion's Herald is not amused. (most common variant. Replace the "not amused" part with whatever is apropriate) ** It's go time!/Badass Mode! (when somebody TookALevelInBadass) ** Gogo PlotDevice! ** Whaaaat?/Whatwhatwhat?(in a high pitched voice) (when something ridiculous happens) * DarkInsanity13: ** "You've ''got'' to be kidding me." ** * insane squeal/giggle* (during a particularly exciting/interesting/gory part of an anime) ** "...are they...?...they ''are''." ** "So...what just happened?" ** "You '''moron'''!!!" ** Several others she can't remember right now * Weaver: ** "Less talking, more fighting!" Frequently uttered while watching anime, no prizes for guessing why. @/MythSage: * "[[MoreDakka MOAH DAKKA!]]": Whenever he sees a really rapid-fire gun. Or a powerful one. * "Aaaand that took about [x] minutes": Whenever the black guy gets killed off. * "Kill me now. Please.": Seeing something depressing. @/YoAdrian: * "KISS HER YOU IDIOT!": One of the more ubiquitous ones. (I spent about half the cutscenes in FinalFantasyIX shouting this one at the screen.) * "OK, it's the girl who was making out with that one guy in the opening, the body's in the * location* , and she's probably naked": {{CSI}}. Full stop. * "Yeeeee-ah. Right. Whatever you say.": When WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief gets shattered. @/{{Jisu}}: * "[[OffModel Bad animation, we love you! Bad animation, do you love us too?]]" I have a whole song for it. * "[[DebutQueue Oh, look, another haremette.]]" @/{{Robbychu}}

* "YOU'RE DOIN' IT WRONG!" or "[blank] DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY." Sometimes includes "YOU IDIOTS FAIL ''SCIENCE'' FOREVER!" for especially bad examples of "experts" not knowing anything. ...Yeah, this troper hates it when people get it wrong. * "What the hell just happened?" Occurs whenever she loses track of the plot, or events in general. Which, being ADHD, is often. Sometimes happens with especially bad [[AssPull Ass Pulls]]. Anima: * "X in 3..." When something extremely predictable is about to happen. * "FINISH HIM!" Played straight and used semi-ironically when watching any fight scene where someone's getting the upper hand. * "X DIES!" Satirical spoiler spoof. Character mentioned almost never actually dies. * "Gee thanks, Captain Obvious." When a plot point is revealed that anyone could see coming. @/{{Isabelstant}}: * "Oh ''X honey no''." (occasionally followed by or interchangeable with "X, honey, OW.") During certain episodes of ''MadMen'' this has been known to turn into a MadnessMantra. * "Actually, I'd wear that (item of clothing)." Happens mostly during the slow bits. * "Oh, God, someone thinks he's being clever again." In response to really obvious examples of stunt writing/casting/acting (e.g. the Doctor Who episode "Midnight.") * "Niiiiiiiiiice." In response to something really awful, but in an ingenious kind of way. @/{{Voodoochild}}: * "STOP IT, VINCE" or "NOT ON, VINCE". Whenever something even-moreoffensive-than-usual occurs in ProfessionalWrestling, because usually Vince [=McMahon=]'s ExecutiveMeddling is to blame. * "Oh look, bathroom time". Whenever a Diva match not featuring Victoria, Mickie James, Beth Phoenix, or Katie Lea is occurring. Also any match featuring midgets, growly non-English speakers, or any member of the WWE's announcing team (I'm looking at you, Jim Ross). * "Go go gadget ref bump!". C'mon, you can see the ref bumps coming from a mile away! Calling them is half the fun. * "It's time to play Breaking Kayfabe!". Whenever Triple H begins to either promo (especially the kind with air quotes!) or make transparent comments about being married to Stephanie [=McMahon=]. * "Two minutes - bad acting". Frequently directed toward many/all of the Divas, but also extended toward Kane, Undertaker, and Vince [=McMahon=]. * "Missed intended point LIEK WHOA". Used whenever an allegory or parallel is inserted anviliciously into the show/movie/book, and generally fails to elicit the response it's going for. * "Shut UP, Campbell". Used any time Pete Campbell of MadMen opens his mouth, out of sheer principle. * "Dracula did it better", or "YOU FAIL AT VAMPIRE". Generally directed to any mainstream media depiction of a vampire, including but

not limited to Angel, Spike, Bill Compton, and Mick. Not directed toward Henry Fitzroy. * "NEEDS MOAR WILSON". Pretty much every episode of ''House''. ** Ecthy says the same thing. * "This is not the West End/Broadway, sir!". Most commonly leveled at John Barrowman, Robert Sean Leonard, and various other "theatre actors" who have ended up on television and cannot figure out how to dial it back a notch. * "Hugh, you MagnificentBastard." Mr. Hugh Laurie, ladies and gentlemen. Awesome times fifty. * @/VoodooMaster: Generally peppering speech with ridiculous amounts of adverbs, favouring "apparently". Although this isn't exactly a catchphrase, as such, the favouring of long and rambling sentences, including (but not limited to) parentheses, semicolons, and repetition; this facet of my personality can be irritating, or so I hear. I have an [[GrammarNazi uncomfortable feeling]] some of it isn't grammatically correct. * Ecthy speaks chatspeak out loud ("lolwtfomg?" has been said at least once) and is known to use "win" and "fail" as nouns as happens online ("EPIC FAIL!" in response to someone mentioning Twilight, for example). "DO NOT WANT" is said on an almost daily basis. Nobody seems to mind Ecthy's Internet-bastardized English, and she has met a few people who speak the same way. Maxius: * "Well, that was disappointing." Used whenever a character doesn't die. * "POINTLESS, * insert name* !" When a character does something stupid, this troper is compelled to scream this out loud. * "And...?" Used whenever this troper expects a twist ending. * "There we go!" Followup if there is a twist ending. * "Watch out, he's/she's got plot armour!" Self-explanatory. * "Shoot! Shoot the head! Shoot it until there's nothing left to shoot, then start beating it with your gun!" Used during the climax of slasher films on TV. @/SovietRazor * "Of course, you know in [[Real Life]] that could never happen, right? {{Mythbusters}} busted it." When something busted by Mythbusters happens. * "That's TERRIBLE." KickTheDog moments, or really bad joke. * "That guy's going to die." No-name extras or people wearing face covering helmets, such as Gears of War. * "Shoot it with your guns!" Said during monster or action movies. @/WillyFourEyes: * "Someone got fired over this, right? ''Right?''" Used in response to an extremely stupid (and/or tasteless) moment. [[@/RiL Ri L]]. has situation-specific tropes: * During {{Heroes}} Season 1, every time Parkman showed up was an

excuse to yell "TOOOOL!" (In Season 2 this changed to [[spoiler: Mohinder]]. * Season 2 of VictorianRomanceEmma: Hans's introductory shot was of him filling a tankard of some sort of booze. Every time he came on screen and glowered meaningfully aside, this was met with "Hans needs another drink." * Playing Persona 4: Chie's dub actress pronounces her Persona's name, Tomoe, as "Tow''mow''ay." This prompts a snipe of "''Tow''moway" or occasionally "[[MST3K Poo-maman]]". Krine: * "Bahu, do you ever get Deja Vu?" Bahu: "Not really, no." Every time a scene repeats itself, whether it's the scene in an episode that was in the Next Episode blurb, or a scene repeating after a commercial break. * "Damn cat." Any time a cat repeatedly shows up in anime, such as with {{Trigun}} or AzumangaDaioh. * "Then, they kiss." Whenever the action movie couple gets into a fight. Has the unfortunate tendency to be ''correct'', much to my annoyance. @/{{Yuvalescent}} * [[BerserkButton "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP COMMENTING ON THE DAMNED SHOW YOU'RE RUINING IT FOR EVERYBODY WE CAN SEE QUITE CLEARLY WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE SCREEN THANKYOU FOR POINTING IT OUT GRAAAARGH"]] (I try not to watch T.V. or movies in the presence of other people.) @/{{Solandra}}: * "Suuuuure." - When an AssPull or something else that breaks my WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief into teeny pieces occurs. The length of time the u is drawn out is directly proportional to the Wall Banger quotient of the event. * "Aww, it's love. True Lurve." - When a hilariously or painfully cheesy/contrived/inevitable romantic scene comes on screen with the lovers gazing into each others' eyes or one of them helplessly admiring the other from afar with a mournful love song all but playing in the background. * ''"Imagination!"'' - When I'm awestruck by a gloriously creative or just plain ''beautiful'' scene that reminds me why I keep on watching TV/movies. * "Don't say anything else!" - Directed towards overeager viewing partners who've already seen the episode/movie I'm watching for the first time and just HAVE to go excitedly into details I don't know about yet. @/AstraKiseki * "Bitch, bitch, bitch, whine, gripe and complain." and "Insert whine, gripe, and complaining here." - Because people get lazy about their complaining. :D * "... Boogerhead." - My parents don't deserve to be called assholes all of the time. They earn it sometimes, but when I'm just annoyed and don't need to swear, this comes out. Oh, and on the topic of

swearings: * "EXPLETIVE!" - My hearty 'fuck you' to [[TourettesSwearingIsDirtySyndrome the general assumption that Tourette's Syndrome means you always swear.]] @/SpikyK * "(verb phrase) is for the WEAK!" (Including "being weak is for the WEAK!") * "... I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that! 8D" * "BRILLIANCE IN A BOTTLE!" * "... what the fuck is WRONG WITH YOU?" * "You're a supersonic, idiotic, disconnected, brain-affected, overloaded, just-exploded candy coated meatball." (must be said as fast as possible) * "Oh for the love of God-slash-Satan-slash-Buddha-slash-Vishnu-slashJim Jones-slash-CREAMED SQUASH!" @/MiffTheFox * "So ([[CaptainObvious obvious plot point that was just explained to the viewer]])?" * "[[SeriesContinuityError Continuity Error]]!" * "[[TvTropesWillRuinYourLife This/That trope is called...]]" Gravitee (NO TROPER PAGE FOR YOU!) * " X you suck" (Mainly only at epic failures or repeated failures.) * " HOLY FUDGING CRAB ON A SHITAKE BOAT!" (Yes. I really do say it EXACTLY like that.) * " REALITY DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU!" (Continuity errors or horrible science mistakes.) * "WHAAAA!" (When refering to that one point that loading screens get really fast or when something goes really fast after being slow.) * "What the- Where's the wha!? WHERE'S WHAAAALEEEE!?" (When the "WHAAA!" doesn't show up when it should.) * "N! N! N! N! N! N- YEAAAH!!" (With N being the event I have predicted from the start of whatever and the yeah being when it finally happens.) * "I DIDN'T NOT SEE THAT NEVER COMING!" (USELESS TRIPLE NEGATIVE FTW) Count Dorku (NO PAGE EITHER) * "[[DawnOfWar Fall back! FALL BACK!]]" (Generic response for ''SouthPark'', ''FamilyGuy'', or other disliked program, or to frankly BrainBleach-requiring statements on other programs. Usually accompanied by running away from the TV) * "Oh, you ''cannot'' be serious." * "You need MoreDakka". (Even said if somebody is packing the largest gun in the history of videogames). * "''[[DawnOfWar Litany of Fury]]'', [[DeathFromAbove lock onto my position and open fire]]. [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Full power]]." (Basically "Fall back! FALL BACK!" turned UpToEleven, for those moments that simply leave you longing for the death of whoever is responsible) * "Looks like somebody managed a [[CriticalFailure crit fail]] on his

intelligence check." * "Didn't we already see this one, two centuries ago?" * "Yeah...you're gonna need a plot bullet." * "Seriously, guys, put some ranks in Knowledge (Any Frigging Thing)!" @/JohnZ: * "OI!" Whenever I've been ambushed in an FPS. It gets a lot of use. * "I f%^$ing ''know''!" When the [[CriticalAnnoyance damage alarm]] goes off. @/GalenDev: * My personal favorite is a very deadpan, "Raise your hand if you didn't see that coming." Cydrius: * "Oh. That's terrible." * "Oh come on!" * The good old facepalm. @/NotSoBadassLongcoat: * "That's it, I'm getting my coat and leaving." * "Reload, ya idiot." (after a character shoots a gun more times than he should without reloading) * "Theeere (s)he goes, like X (dumbest person known to co-viewers) after a lemonade without blub... bubbles." (after someone says something incredibly stupid) * "Ooops. (appropriate QuipToBlack)" after a character gets killed violently. All in utter deadpan. @/{{Garbonzo42}}: * "What the great green goofballs?" (whenever something cliched/nonsensical happens) * "SHOOOOOT. HIIIIIIM." (screamed REALLY LOUD whenever someone tries to negotiate with a serial killer/multiple murderer/terrorist/etc) * "Another point for Darwin!" (whenever someone fails to even attempt to defend themselves from the afforementioned serial killer/etc) * "Fight back! They're just going to kill you anyways!" (usually said before the previous stack phrase) Nerfinator: * "Oh, X. What a wacky guy." When a charecter, usualy a villian, goes insane or does extremly violent things. * "dun dun.(extremly deadpan)" when something that's supposed to be shocking but really isn't * "...''THEN PIRATES CAME!''" When a monolouge gives says something like "All was peaceful in the land..." Quote lifted directly from ''FireEmblem'': Shadow Dragon * " I tire of all these shennanigans and goings on" When a (sub) Plot gets extremely boring. Bandersnatch: * "Eh, he'll be okay.", uttered during action movies whenever a baddie

is blown to pieces, during CSI-esque shows when a victim's very dead remains are found, and, just to ruin the moment, during important death scenes regardless of genre. @/{{Gizbit99}}: * "Noice." Generally said following DisasterDominoes. * "PAIN!" Often said during slapstick comedy. 23 * "X does not work that way" * "Why Company X Why would you do that to me?" * "That's not what happened!" * "That made less sense than X" * "Damn you advertisers"

@/{{Igordebraga}}: * "That's not a good sign..." (whenever something wrong seems to be coming) @/{{Lilacheart}}: * "Wow, their lives suck." (Said very frequently when something goes wrong) * "That is SO COOL!" (During crowning moments of awesome) * "...Pain!!" (Often said when something extremely painful happens.) * "You know what? He's kind of an idiot." (When a character, no matter how smart, does something extremely stupid.) * "Well, that made perfect sense." (For when something makes no sense.) * "Um...What?" (Also for when something makes no sense.) * "...Wow. Just...wow." (Reserved for [[NojustNo something too stupid for words.]]) * "Wheeeee!!" (When so much is going on that it's really hard to tell what's happening.) @/ShadowPanther * AND SUDDENLY X!/TACTICAL GENIUS! (Invoked frequently on GundamSeedDestiny when the Freedom/Strike Freedom show up.) * Where did the plot go..? * Oh for the... JUST X ALREADY! Oliveira * "No... No-no-no-no..! Don't do it!" (In when stupidity is eminent.) * "I wonder if I should raise an objection to this... Probably, but I won't." (In regards to something that may be offensive or dumb, but RuleOfCool / RuleOfFunny says otherwise. Also may be used in regards to {{Stripperiffic}} outfits) * "Makes... Sense... To me..?" * "Okay, you just pulled that outta your ass!" * "Why do I find gratuitous violence ''so'' enterteining?" (Mostly when watching {{Shounen}} series and other violence-heavy media. * "GENERIC RAAAAGE!" (A personal [[MemeticMutation meme]] for whenever

I'm playing GodOfWar) * "What? When did we start doing the Time Warp!?" (When continuity goes bonkers) * "* Sigh* Just shut up... Pleeaaase.." (Whenever TheScrappy Of The Week is talking) * "Hell yeah! Do it! DO IT!" (Whenever overcome with [[HotBlooded Hot Blood]] due to excessive manliness. Always happens when I'm watching TengenToppaGurrenLagann) @/StuartPBentley * "Good idea, piss it off." * "It's not like he's Batman or anything." (For "Is this the end of {{Batman}}?" moments, particularly his two-story fall at the end of TheDarkKnight) * "Yeah, it ''was'' pretty funny." (in response to any EvilLaugh) * My dad has "Wouldn't sell ''him'' any life insurance..." @/PentiumMMX2 * "Something's going to jump out, you know..." (Whenever a character is investigating a room, and things are too quiet; usually followed up with "See, what did I tell you?") * "It's just a flesh wound" (Whenever a character is shown to be still alive despite losing gallons of blood. Commonly used when watching {{Bleach}} or another similar series) * "[[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries He's dead, Jim]]" (Whenever a character dies) * "It's the (random TV show) DrinkingGame; take a shot every time (something that happens a lot in the series) happens!" (Used whenever watching a show that features something that happens at least OnceAnEpisode) * "[[BadBadActing I'm acting!]]" (Whenever a character is ChewingTheScenery) Reflextion * "(brief, forced, monotonous laugh, followed by a short {{Beat}}) That was a joke, right? ''Please'' tell me that was a joke..." When someone says something so soul-crushingly ''stupid'' that if I [[FacePalm facepalmed]] any harder, my hand would come out the back of my skull. * "(He/she) is so freaking dead." When a character volunteers or is selected to do some sort of dangerous task alone. * "Woooooooooooooooooooooooo!" or alternately: "About friggin' time!" when two characters finally take the 'U' out of their {{UST}}. [[@/{{Fishsicles}} Fishs]][[HamAndCheese icles]] * Laughter at a completely serious but over-the-top moment, followed by a yell of "[[{{Narm}} NAAAAAAAAAARM!]]" * "This is just ludicrous!" * Whenever there is HoYay: "gaaaaaaaaaay..." * "EPIC FAIL!" at [[EpicFail appropriate moments]] * "It is obviously X" directed at my brother/mother/father while watching a crime show. I suspect X, they suspect Y. It is broken up

about 25% each for who is right. ** "Well, he/she/it is dead." at the beginning of such programs, right as the dramatic zoom starts. ** "Math! Math! Math!" when watching {{Numb3rs}}. Generally by myself. * "[[StarTrek The dilithium crystals are br-r-reakin' up!]]" when faced with obviously failing AppliedPhlebotinum. * "Name Of Trope!" when recognizing a trope. [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife I can't help myself.]] @/{{Metalitia}} * In appreciation of...well...just about anything done well: "NICELY DONE." (usually followed by a golf clap) * Whenever something annoyingly predictable (or awesome-killing) occurs: "G'AWWWWWW" (with a hocking-of-the-throat sound behind it) * When extremely marking out at something I've seen: [[{{Squee}} "GEEEEEHEEEHEHEEEHEEEE!"]] (almost always with a victorious fist pump) getmemygun * "Oh [[JossWhedon Joss]]..." Any FootFocus moment on a Whedon series * "WHAT?" Usually after a GainaxEnding, MindScrew, or wham moment * "Shit." * "Goddamnit" (often followed by character or director's name) * "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" * "THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE" @/AckSed * "In other news..." -- used whenever I change the topic drastically. * "ACT-ing!" / "That's it, you go for that Oscar!" -- whenever I see OscarBait or ChewingTheScenery. * "Oh, ''Japan''..." -- sometimes Japan makes me {{facepalm}}. This relieves the tension. * "Doh!" -- [[OhCrap Guess]]. * "EVIL!!" * points at screen* -- for when it's bloody obvious that he or she is the villain, but the cast hasn't figured it out yet. * "What... the... ffffffFUCK?" -- when something so stupid happens, you can ''not'' believe it was concocted by the mind of man. Yet it exists, right there in front of you, ''burning'' you with the force of the stupid. * "No... * whispers* noooo..." -- see above. * "See above" * "I'm sorry, I can't watch this." -- whenever I see someone being awkward on screen. I actually have to leave the room from the discomfort. Triggers: CringeComedy, doomed love confessions and nerds. All three in one show is Viewer Kryptonite. @/LLawliet * [[MysteryScienceTheater3000 "He tried to kill me with a forklift!"]] -- Usually preceeded by a song singing about the current scene. * [[DarkKnightTrilogy "I'm Batman."]] -- Usually when someone asks, "How did you do that?" * [[FZero "FALCON PAAAAAAAAAAAAAWNCH!]]" -- When someone gets brutally punched in the face.

* [[IKnewIt "Called it."]] -- When a plot twist is revealed that comes from a mile away. * [[CurseCutShort "Oh f-"]] -- When the characters are about to be owned. * [[ThePrincessBride "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."]] -- When a character is about to face their mortal enemy. * [[FullMetalAlchemist "THIS _______ HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN THROUGH THE ARMSTRONG FAMILY FOR GENERTATIONS!"]] -- When someone showcases an awesome talent. * [[YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries "BROOKLYN RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!"]] -When someone is pissed. * [[HarveyBirdman "Ha ha! Double entendre."]] -- Guess. * [[TVTropes "That is a (insert trope here) if I ever did see one."]] -- When someone does something trope-like. * [[IdiotBall "You're an idiot."]] -- During really, really stupid moments. @/{{Korodzik}} * "Aaaaawkward." -- when the characters are in a horribly embarrassing situation * "Come on, say it, say it..." -- the CatchPhrase, usually. * "The plot thickens!"/"[[{{Sting}} Dum dum duuum!]]" * "[[{{Thief}} Oh this is gonna be fun!]]"/"[[{{Blood}} Ooh, this promises to be fun!]]" Glitch Master * "[[MindScrew I don't even try to understand this anymore.]]" More and more frequently during {{Lost}}. * "[[WhatAnIdiot My God, you]] ''[[WhatAnIdiot idiot]]''!" Watching someone jump to ''all'' the wrong conclusions. It's either painful or funny, depending on context. * "X much?" Usually "Corny", at a ''really'' overused cliche. * "[[MoreDakka MORE DAKKA]]!" I actually just like screaming this at the screen. "[[MoreDakka MORE DAKKA]]!" I do use it properly someti"[[MoreDakka MORE DAKKA]]!" @/HappyDuck * * * * * "Neatiez!" "Sewiously, Robert?" (no, that was not a typo) "No, that was not a typo." You know how -insert random observation here-? -insert nerdy reference no one gets here-

@/{{Kalle}} * "There's gotta be a trope for that." * "[[FlatWhat What.]]" Hanzo * "What." (Used when something truly bizarre happens.) * "That's gonna leave a mark." (Usually used whenever something

large/painful hits someone.) * "...Seriously? * skeptical look* " (Often used when someone suggests something bizarre, like using a sliced orange to defeat the Big Bad.) * "......And that's bad." (Used whenever something that's obviously Evil is mentioned.) * "....Has this been MST3K'd yet?" (Obvious use here.) * ".....Wait, What? Whoa." (Yet another obvious one here, also a Trope!) * ".....The Hero's gonna need MORE DAKKA." (Again, kinda obvious here, it's used whenever The Hero finds himself(Or Herself) fighting something that he(Or She!) simply cannot defeat at the time.) * "......Idiot. * Facepalm* " (Again, obvious Trope Usage.) * "Hmmmmmmmm..." (I use this one as a Catch-All for things that don't fit in the above.) * "Oh boy, here we go again...!" (Whenever the resident idiot does something to kick-start the plot again, and yes, Hilarity Ensues.) @/CamrocG * "Yes! That is how physics works!" (When laws of physics are stretched.) * "[[TengenToppaGurrenLagann WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK HE IS?!]]" (When someone underestimates the hero.) * "Everybody say Awwwwww!" (During a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Heartwarming]] moment.) * "[[WhoWritesThisCrap Who the f** k writes this?!]]" @/MattyChanHazel * "WHAT?" (When I hear something truly bizzare) * "Why am I not surprised?" * "Were you even listening?" (when my friend/crush A-Cat asks me "what are we doing" in class about a second after the teacher has finished explaining, nd often when there's an explanation on the board) Lupine_Volt * "Doomed...doommed...gonna live, but won't really have too much to do with the plot...played by Michelle Rodriguez, ergo doomed to go out in a blaze of glory..." My predictions upon beginning to watch Avatar. * "...That guy standing there in the background in the green hoodie." Crime shows. * "Somebodies gonna get it!" Singsong voice when an asskicking is upon a badie. * "...Golly." Upon seeing something shocking. @/ShadowWarden * "[[TearJerker Damn]] [[DiabolusExMachina you,]] [[YankTheDogsChain show!]]" * "[[CouldHaveBeenMessy Amazingly, no one gets hurt.]]" * "''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Nice.]]''" trickymander * How difficult is that riddle?(usally when the riddle of the sphinx troupe is used)

* Finally some one who read the legend(When someone solves that riddle) * What? that is not(insert trope name) goes(If Know trope is inverted or subverted) * I wounder if there is a trope for this(Usally when some elements of the show gets repeated.) This Troper * C'mon! Stop being a hero and RUN! (Whenever someone stays behind and tries to fight the enemy back) * For God's sake, he's ''mortal''! Just shoot him in the head! (Crime shows where the cops are ''really'' having a terrible time killing the culprit) * Poke him in the eyes!/Kick him in the nuts! (Whenever a female character is faced with the killer) * All right, you've got the hero, you've conquered the world, now kill the hero. You can gloat about it later. (When the villain comes close to accomplishing his goals.) * You are a moron. (When someone makes a stupid decision.) * Um, talkie-talk later, more running/fighting (When the characters decide to have a delightful conversation instead of doing the actions.) * There's this brilliant way of navigating through the dark. It's called taking a stick and pointing it out in front of you and on the ground. I'm told the blind are masters at this. (Whenever a character is in a dark cavern/cave/house, they can't see much if at all, even say this, but they insist on walking forward with no help at all.) * {{Nyperold}} ** "No you're not."/"Yes you are." - In response to a resolve to do something or not do something, respectively. Used often during rewatches; occasionally also when it's clear that their resolve won't last. * Stargirl93 ** "X's VA was not paying attention today" - When a cartoon (usually Anime)character's voice sounds strange, and is not caused by TheOtherDarrin. Usually. ** "Poor X" -When a character has a [[TheWoobie Woobie]] moment. * Taylorxlx ** "What the Christ? That was awesome!"- any Crowning Moment of Awesome. ** "Oh, come on, I figured this out X minutes ago!"- Whenever a character is acting particularly stupid in a mystery story. * Latte ** "Magic."(sometimes with emphasis) - Pretty much a Catch Phrase to explain something without actually explaining, whether because I don't want to, the explanation is long, or there is no explanation. Generally works pretty well. ** "Oh, pleasant." - When something decidedly ''un''pleasant occurs. * [[Troper/AdelePotter Here are mine:]] ** [[NoJustNo Um... wow... that was... uh... no. I'm sorry. No.]]

** [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt Oh come on, Mom, you know she's fine.]] Like they would kill off [insert really popular character from OneLifeToLive]. ** [[FridgeLogic That doesn't even make sense!]] ** [[FridgeHorror Waaaaaiiiiit.... Oh god.]] ** [[EveryoneCanSeeIt GOD! Will they PLEASE just MAKE OUT ALREADY?!]] ** WhyDontYouJustShootHim ** DudeNotFunny (Usually said during FamilyGuy.) ** IKnewIt! ** (After a MindScrew) [[FlatWhat ....what?]] * Prophet ** "[[IKnewIt Called it]]" ** "[[SarcasmMode Oh, yeah. That was logical. Okay.]]" whenever there's a Wall Banger *** [[FlatWhat "What." "Really?" or "Are you serious."]] when there's a really bad one ** "Yes! Get him!" when my team is winning. ** "What the hell is wrong with you!" when my team is losing. ** "You done fucked up now" when someone hits the Hero/AntiHero/AntiVillain's BerserkButton ** "Shit is bout to go down" [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin when shit is about to go down]] * {{Aminatep}} ** [facepalm] (I should really stop watching bad shows) ** Meanwhile in Retardia: (after someone screws up with enough plot impact) ** Okay, this is official, it's a comedy now. (after watching a ridiculously narmy scene) ** Yeah. Right. Who could have guessed. (after some blatantly foreshadowed event has happened) ** Can you please have sex now and argue later? (after too much UST) ** What is this sorcery? (after a heavy MindScrew) ** WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THAT?! SWEET MERCIFUL GOD WHY. ** Yay, yet another pointless scene. ** Damn, where's Jason when you need him. (upon seeing a teen sliceof-life bullshit) * Saphruikan ** After Ganondorf beats the stuffing out of Link in Wind Waker: "What the ''FUCK?!'' ** After killing Ganondorf in said game: "''OWNED'', child-abusing ''BITCH!''" ** At [[CovertAffairs Auggie, anytime.]]: AWWWW!

* {{Zanreo}} ** "...I KNEW it." ** "What the hell?" ** (thinking)"WhatDoesSheSeeInHim?" ** [[SarcasmMode "...Makes PERFECT sense."]] ** "...Okay, you can stop that now..."/(thinking) "AGAIN?" (During

OverlyLongGag that are really [[ShapedLikeItself overly long]].) ** "FUCK/HELL YEAH" ** [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs "What the hell were they on?"]] (Alternatively continued with "Whatever it is, I want some") ** (thinking) "Put some clothes on already!" (for girls in {{Stripperific}} outfits) ** "Just get done already, geez!" (During any obligatory long kissing scene. What can I say? They are boring.) ** "Now I know how *character* feels". ** "[[WhoNamesTheirKidDude His/her name is *name*?]] His/her parents must have hated him/her." (When I see a character with an UnfortunateName.) ** "Get back and fight, you did just a minute ago!" (When a FauxActionGirl suddenly stops fighting and curls up in a corner as the main guy enters the room, even though she seemed perfectly capable of fighting them herself before.) ** [[FZero "FALCOOOOON]] [[MemeticMutation PUUUUNCH!"]] (basically, any big epic punch attack) ** [[EpicFail "FAIL!"]] ** "...only in Japan." (WTF-ish moments in anime) ** [[HehHehYouSaidX "Heh heh... *insert double entendre*"]] ** [[WhatAnIdiot "(S)He's an idiot."]] ** "Awkward..." (when characters are in embarassing situations) ** "It's probably best not to think too much about it." (During MindScrew moments.) ** "...Wait, what?" ** *facepalm* ** [[CaptainObvious "That must have hurt."/"Ow."]](When someone gets really hurt) * Meandering River ** "Psychology/ Profiling doesn't work like that." Most often during Bones and CriminalMinds. Mostly at Bones because anthropoly is a softer science than psychology, stupid! * Centurion Cato ** "Too expensive to only use once!" - on seeing the same FXheavy/crowd-scene shot twice (or more) in a movie. ** "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet Trebuchets]] are not anti-personell weapons!" - The big battle scene of ANY fantasy/pregunpowder historical action movie where weapons designed to destroy city walls are used against field armies. ---Back to ViewerStockPhrases. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

VillainousCheekbones [[AC:VideoGames]] * Oddly enough the first entry into this new TroperTales is a subversion. The first Commander Sheperd I made for MassEffect had

pretty prominent cheekbones, but I played him almost completely [[BlueAndOrangeMorality paragon]]. [[AC:Back to RealLife now]] * This troper has a gaunt, drawn face, and high cheekbones. It's quite Bishonen. * This troper loves to invert this trope. Most if not all of the characters I design that have prominent cheekbones are heroes or a least good guys (especially the males). Villains tend to have less noticeable facial features (at least not natural ones). ----

VillainsOutShopping * This may well be the Lamest Example Ever, and doesn't really fit here, but: Whenever my friends and I play Batman (we're that cool!) It always starts with the Joker at Target. Always. ** Joker at Target? Not lame at all. Completely awesome! Sign me up! ** Dude, the Joker at Wal Mart is ''far'' scarier than him at an army supply depot. Even him stealing bio-weapons is only ''slightly'' scarier. * Heh. [[@/PyroSkittle This Troper]] once ran into a much-despised math teacher at a church she was visiting. She begged her parents not to take her there ever again, despite the fact that outside of the math class, the teacher was a very nice woman with a lovely singing voice. I only realized my opportunity to suck up after we had left and I had secured my mother's word that we would never return. * This Troper ran into somebody who used to bully her in middle school at a party. Let's just say, [[{{Understatement}} it did not end well for this troper]]. * ThisTroper has encountered the 'teaching' version of this trope from both ends; not long after leaving school he once encountered his geography teacher in a nightclub he happened to be frequenting, and since becoming a teacher himself has noticed that his students, upon encountering him outside of the classroom, frequently seem astonished, as if they expect him to send his off time lying in a tank with wires uploading various academic facts and methods of assessment torture directly into his head. * During a gig at a Mexican restaurant, [[@/{{Pinkbaron}} this troper]] encountered the vast majority of her junior high teachers at a table drinking margaritas, including her choir teacher and all three gym teachers. * A friend of this troper's once encountered a pair of some-what disliked highschool teachers, who were married, in a book store. In the adult section. Brain bleach ensued. * [[@/{{Quillpaw}} This troper]] was picked up by her dad on the last day of her 5th grade year, and taken to the spa where he works, until he could take her home. While there she saw two of her teachers getting manicures. It was incredibly awkward. * [[@/{{Nightboomfer}} This troper]] once dressed up as [[{{GIJoe}} Cobra Commander]] for a children's event at the mall. There are

pictures of me doing things like riding the bus and eating cookies in costume. * This troper's friend is Memetically evil. Of course, he's actually a nice guy. This trope is in full effect all of the time, and it's AWESOME. * This Troper -- a Heavy Deadpan Snarker and the Evil Mastermind according to his circle of friends -- was once caught at a mall buying a new cell phone The next day a girl in my class walks up to me and says, "I saw you at the mall yesterday" -- after a long awkward pause my only response is, "Ummm, ok?" * This troper saw her school's vice principal in a [=McDonald's=] parking lot. * This troper saw her sister's shrieking harpy of a 3rd-grade teacher at a gas station. The funny thing is, she always [[BitchInSheepsClothing acts really sweet when either parents are visiting, or she's outside of class,]] and so our mom had a tough time believing what she was really like. (We knew better, though; we could hear her screaming at her students several classrooms away!) * When this troper was taking her formal driving lessons, she was in a supermarket parking lot, and she saw a [[CompleteMonster boy]] [[TheBully in her class]] she despised (and almost everyone else did, too.) * This troper has experienced it from both ends; I once ran into my SadistTeacher of an elementary school principal (a couple years after graduating from elementary school, even) at the orthodontist's office. I actually didn't recognise him at first, so that mercifully brief conversation was awkward for two completely different reasons. As for myself, I went off to buy some candy before a zombie walk while cosplaying [[Left4Dead a Hunter]], although nobody really reacted because downtown Vancouver was swarming with zombies anyways. * Why are all of these stories about teachers? C'mon, let's have the tropers who teach talk about meeting villainous students for a change! In the meantime, though, this troper will add to the pile. She once saw a teacher at a restaurant her family frequents, on a day when she'd brought her homework (it might have even been a little late) for his class to do while waiting. * This troper, on the night of the release for several HarryPotterrelated events, has seen multiple Lord Voldemorts, Bellatrixes, Malfoys, and what have you buying snacks, eating, etc, waiting to be let in to sit in the theater. So it was literally villains out shopping. And it was amusing. Has also seen several villains from other books, movies, etc., at Safeway before a con or another midnight release. ** The same happened to this Troper on her way to see {{Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince}}. I actually ran into a Voldemort on the candy isle (oddly enough, we were both getting Twizzlers)! * This Troper saw 3 cosplayers in at McDonalds ({{Vocaloids}} Miku Hatsune, Rin Kagamine, and Len Kagamine). Now, this may seem pretty normal for some (it is for me, as I live Houston; lots of conventions here), but the funny thing was that it was 2:00 in the morning, and in the middle of nowhere (mid-east Texas, College Station). It was, without a doubt, the oddest moment of my life.

* The latest chapter of my fanfic has the VillainProtagonist going into a diner, and of course the one waiting on her (and her [[MoeCouplet "little brother"]]) is the same girl who stabbed her in the chest the last time they met [[hottip:*:The villain had a HealingFactor, so she was fine]]. Here's part of their conversation: --> '''[[AffablyEvil Vengeance]]''': Um...heh, hi. --> '''[[{{Meganekko}} Raven]]''': You aren't up to anything, are you? --> '''Vengeance''' (somewhat indignant): [[FlatWhat What?]] Are you kidding? Geez lady, I'm just here for lunch! Unless ''[[UnluckyEverydude that guy]]'' is here, I could care less about you. --> '''Raven''': Not even for attacking you that last time? --> '''Vengeance''' (shrugging): Okay, fair enough, I deserved that. ---Come on, lets head back to the ''Main/VillainsOutShopping'' outlet, I hear they have a discount on smoke bombs! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

Vindictus * This Troper recently had a quest where he and another player fought a boss for a half hour, consisting mostly of running away, hitting from behind, and running away again. DeathOfAThousandCuts, indeed.

Vintergatan * Some time between [=TTV=] and [=VVS=] we met Anders Linder (the actor playing Peo) doing improvisational theatre. After the show, my kids (born after [=V5A=] but having followed the reruns) went up to him and went "PEOPEOPEO!" just like his catchphrase. He immediately went into character and [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming greeted them as fellow travelers of the cosmos]]. Wonderful guy :) * My lower elementary school has a yearly fundraiser for the students. One year, it turned out that someone actually knew Anders Linder (Peo) and contacted him and asked if he'd like to do some pro bono crowdattraction work. So he and his band came and played some songs (at least one Vintergatan-related) and entertained the crowd which then bought stuff at the flea market, played games, ate hotdogs, and generally had a good time.

VisualInnuendo * Taking pictures in Super Smash Bros. Brawl may result in this trope. Some of mine: ** King Dedede grabbing Ness with a [[{{Shotacon}} "pedo-ish"]] face. ** Bowser looing like he's giving birth to a blue ball. It's actually just Sonic in... ball-form in his crotch area. [[HehHehYouSaidX (Heh heh... blue balls in the crotch area...)]]

* This troper unwittingly did quite the visual innuendo only to realize it ''years'' after the fact. This troper likes knives and swords, so when her crush had a very nice knife, she asked to see it. It was a rather large [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinel_knife Opinel knife]]; the blade was about six inches long and a little less than an inch wide. There were several of us in a group sitting around and talking while I was playing with the knife. Eventually, the owner of the knife started getting a tad disturbed by the way I kept stroking and running my hand along the blade of the knife, and took it back. I don't know if he noticed this, as I certainly didn't, but the way I was handling the knife looked an awful lot like a handjob.

VitriolicBestBuds * Type 1 is easily me and my [[HeterosexualLifePartners best bud.]] I help her keep up a 'B' average, keep her from getting yelled at by teachers, and feed her most days. It's pretty much a parasitic relationship, but we've been such good friends for so long it'll probably remain like this even after we graduate...I should tell her mom that she needs to pay me.... * [[Tropers/SamuraiYoshi This Troper]] is Type 2 with pretty much any other guy in his middle school that he's friendly with, but especially with his {{Nakama}}. This is most extreme with two particular friends of mine, Patrick and Garrett. The former is a {{Jerkass}} and the latter is more WhiteAndNerdy than I am. I constantly utter the words "I honestly hate you so much" to both of them, I make brutal jabs at Patrick's stupidity, and I frequently attempt to clothesline Garrett whenever he's running behind me (which is frequently, as we have P.E. together and I'm somewhat more athletic than him). But trust me, they return fire. Patrick is constantly making Jew jokes at my expense (he isn't racist, I let him make the jokes and I'm Jewish) and Garrett is just... well, a dick in general. But you know what? Patrick and I are best friends, to the point where we consider [[HeterosexualLifePartners being roommates in the future,]] and Garrett is the only reason why my Drama class (which I got stuck in for forgetting to turn in my elective sheet at the end of 7th grade) is bareable. * This Troper and his best friend are Type 2, no doubt... 'Cept it's evolved into UST and he's pretty sure they're long due a RelationshipUpgrade. * This Troper's Multiple different close friends are pretty much all like this. My school has all mixed grade classes, and while I'm a 10th grade computer nerd, my best friends are two 6th and 8th grade animefreaks, and a cynical, history buff 9th grader (who's a month older than me). I'm the {{Nice Guy}}, and two of the three are {{Deadpan Snarker}}s. The 6th grader constantly berates me for being too nice, and being so damn nerdy (though her {{Catchphrase}} is pretty much "[[HypocriticalHumor Oh god, I'm such a nerd]]" whenever she's drawing {{Naruto}}, {{Death Note}}, {{Vampire Knight}}, [[Anime etc]].). The 9th grader is the physical embodiment of {{The Snark Knight}}. He berates me for being ''too'' nice, and every other of my numerous failings. Despite all this, He's a funny guy, and we have intellectual

debates together that are AWESOME. (I like argument.) All in all, my friends and I get along pretty well. * Two of my acquaintances are like this. They are a couple of stoic, gloomy jerk-ass hikikomoris with a [[HairTriggerTemper short temper]]. The reason they have managed to remain together so long (15 years and counting) without killig each other is because each knows the other one is the only person who can stand him. When you think about it it's heartwarming. * [[Tropers/LadyBealzabub This Troper]] and one of my closest, oldest friends are type two. It's a bit one sided, with her being quite a bit more caustic than me, however, this is mainly due to the fact said friend is violently tsundere. * So Type 2 with my friend, the teachers even comment on it. In chemistry: -->''Friend and I are yelling at each other about the amount of acid you add t the experiment. Everyone else is laughing.) -->'''English Teacher Next Door''': Did anything explode here? --> '''Chem Teacher, watching and eating popcorn''': No, just those two again. Popcorn? * Type 2 with so many people for me. We insult each other, know each others weaknesses, compete for grades like it's the Academic Olympics, but I'd definitely save their life if I had too. If only because I'd get bored without those idiots. * This tropers group of friends tends to act like type 2 at times. Especially with two of them. They insult and argue almost the entirety of the time their together yet strangely enough whenever asked about this they say they are best friends... ** I suspect we might belong to the same group. * Played with/indecisively deconstructed for [[JohnnyBGoode this troper.]] There's one group of people I hang out with who piss me off/insult me for the hell of it, but sometimes they still act like we're friends. Played straight so far, right? Unfortunately, I have really poor social skills and thus I can't really give it back as well as I take it, and I'm usually considered the ButtMonkey. (Although they have another ButtMonkey, so I get less crap than I otherwise would.) So when I come up with something good, their usual reaction is "You got owned by Troper...wow." Also played with/deconstructed in that I don't actually like them that much. Which might be because I have trouble giving it back. In fact, occasionally it borders on outright hate, which is rare for me. On the other hand, it might be because I have a poor sense of humor. [[WallsOfText Sorry for taking so long.]] * It took a while for this troper to understand the relationship between two guys from her group of friends. They fight all the time, and sometimes it gets ugly, especially when one of them mentions the other's dead mother. When I first met them, I thought they were just some sort of friendly enemies, since they still hanged out together despite everything. But I soon found out they're best friends since childhood, and it's not a good idea to insult either one in front of the other. Really. Don't. * This troper is a scrawny, timid thing and a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. Her friend is much larger than she is, but still a jerk (though tones

it down). The larger one really like pushing this troper around by means of holding her around the neck, squeezing her arms, and generally pushing her weight around. We're still pretty much HeterosexualLifePartners, even with all this violence. * This troper and her best friend ''are'' this trope. They met in 2nd grade, and have been inseparable since, varying between types one and two. We constantly snark at each other, and people who don't know us are surprised that we're even friends. * This troper and his best friend do it to such a degree people around them refuse to talk at all in fear of entering the 'crossfire' * This troper's parents have exactly the same relationship (as the South Park example above) with his mother's old boss. He may not have been a sociopath, but harassed the employees, made everyone do his work, manipulated all those he knew and was completely narcissistic and specious. They were long time friends. * In the Troper Talk page about SadistTeacher, several people write about sadistic, verbally abusive teachers whom their students loved. * This editor noted that the more he likes someone, the snarkier he is to them. ** Yep. * This troper theorizes that a casual way to tell how good friends two people are to be proportionate to the lack of outrage from each other as they trade insults. * The extent to which this troper ''constantly'' insults her best friend starts to disturb ''her'' sometimes. Apparently, said friend is okay with it * [[DarkInsanity13 This troper]] and someone who she happens to have mutual friends with that won't leave her alone (so not in denial) were once compared to Spongebob and Squidward (oddly enough, this was a rare brilliant relevation by said person). It fits so well, it's scary. However, she (troper) tends to get a tad venomous with her stabs, but as a slight WeirdnessCoupon, she gets away with it because no one else is allowed to be that mean to her (Spongebob-person). * [[LWGadra This troper]] and his like-minded associates can spend hours tossing around various insults about our various inadequacies like footballs. * This troper was friends with A first. Then A introduced me to his other friend B. One of those "we have different personalities, but all of our worst traits overlap" situations. We both valued A's friendship so much that we eventually formed a ceasefire with each other. * This troper's a loudmouthed, foulmouthed, lighthearted and dark humored individual. Lots of his friendships turn into Type B of this. It's all just friendly banter... honest! * [[{{Jefepato}} This troper's]] closest friendships are almost all like this. But then, he's a {{Jerkass}}, so it's quite possible he just isn't comfortable with people he can't insult to their faces. (They certainly get theirs back, though.) * Type-B all the way for [[BringTheNoise me!]] * Oh so much. I use my strongest language, which would probably get me attacked if I tried it with others, on one of my friends. And then we smile. ** Update: People say our bickering sounds like we're a married

couple. Pretty funny. (We're both male, by the way) * This troper's most durable friendship began on the level 1 with herself (a Daria Tsundere-ish Emotionless Jerkass) hating her current best friend (A Obfuscatingly Stupid Ophelia-esque Genki Girl) to death. She constantly belittled said girl and openly ignored her, when she was in a good mood as in a foul mood, well this troper's snarks are legendary on her Nakama's association--- Said girl actually even made a whole Crusade war-esque strategy to defend this troper from their shared Nemesis. (This guy is currently their Nakama, as well)This situation kept on going until said girl was openly humilliated and this troper's mad anger made her realize she actually cared for said girl. Fourteen years later, this troper still keeps her jerkass tendencies (smiling while she does so) and her friend even worships her for her snarkiness, sometimes those compliments reaching the lesyay level and sometimes reaching an insulting level that is utterly adorable for this troper. * This troper's friendship with three of his best friends is like this, just one-way. This troper hasn't quite figured to what level it's appropriate to insult them so rarely does, but he's known by such designations as "Marvel fag" and "Rush faggot". It's an...interesting relationship. * Type B to the extreme. Questioning the other's sexuality, making "your mom" jokes at every opportunity and then high-fiving people about it, general berating of each other's... well, whole life, basically. And that's just the first hour. We decided that, being meaner than friends but friendlier than enemies, the most logical designation would be "frenemies". * [[{{Flysh}} This Troper]] is totally this with his best friend... If it were in our power, we'd probably be EarthShatteringKabooming things with the level our daily arguments seem to get to. * This troper and one of his friends pretend to be type A, with me being Pete. Me and another friend, on the other hand, are type B completely and utterly, although lately it's come to mind that he may have not been joking. * This troper does this to pretty much all of her friends. Her closest group of friends contains the nicknames Whore, Slut, Bastard, Asshole and Nimrod. * This troper is like this with a lot of her friends (who reciprocate) and is actually is only polite to people she doesn't know or doesn't like. This has led to problems. For instance, I was recently in a situation where I was living and working with two partners for a few weeks. One of my partners and I quickly developed this kind of friendship, with me openly and loudly insulting/abusing him and him getting back at me, usually in more subtle ways. At one point, our boss/supervisor/team mom took me aside and said that I was being too mean to my partner! Puzzled, I later asked him if he was really hurt or offended, and he straight out laughed, and reassured me that the things I say aren't ''nearly'' as bad as some of the crap he pulls. Which I took as a challenge. * This troper's relationship with her [[PlatonicLifePartners best guy friend]] is most definately a Type 2. We are constantly slinging insults at each other, smacking each other around and bickering in

general. But if anyone else tries insulting the other when one of us is around... may god have mercy on their souls. * My high school has its own name for Type A: joke-hate. As in, Oh, Steve doesn't really mean that, we just have this thing, he joke-hates me. At least I thought we did. But y'know, sometimes I can't tell if he ''for real'' hates me... * This troper and his cousin had a one-sided version of this with their [[strike:third friend]] [[strike:man-wife]] "leader". Either one of us could go on an endless rant about the whole fucked-up situation, but the gist of it is that he was allowed to be as venomous and hateful to the two of us about how we're gay because we make too many penis jokes and don't have girlfriends, or how we're not doing anything with our lives (read: Not actively and obsessively pursuing the opposite sex 24/7), or any number of things we're not doing that could benefit him in some way; but we're only allowed to pick on each other and leave him alone because he's "awesome". If we call him on his behaviour, it's "just another one of your attempts to villainize me". If his feelings get hurt enough, he cuts off all ties and communication with us for several weeks/months/until he gets lonely enough. We really should stop this maddening, snake-eating-its-owntail cycle of chaos, but he's really a lot of fun to troll (After being falsely accused of malice and spite so many times, we figured we should start doing it for real to at least have ''some'' fun). * This troper hates his friends as much as they hate him. And yet, we're always willing to help each other with schoolwork and make fun of the class Scrappy. * This Troper was once part of a Vitriolic Trio, consisting of dumb but lovable jock, an angsty artist and me, the clown of questionable sanity. Snarking at each other was as natural as breathing and one day when we all went paintballing, a guy we had just met five minutes prior told us that we "Bicker like old women." We wholeheartedly agree. * This troper and his friend actively insult each other at every occasion. Since we're both nerds, the insults can get rather creative, such as referring to my friend as a "piece of thulium." * [[NautilusPQ This Troper]] has a best nemesis. Actual exchange: "''Why do you do this to me?''" "Because I hate you. Or love you. I can't tell the difference, sometimes." * Me and my friends insult each-other constantly. It's a hobby really. Some of the best insults we have ever wielded were conjured during a normal conversation with a friend. It's always best tested on someone who knows that you would never actually mean to hurt them. It makes their reaction much more funnier too. * A gf told me, "I don't get how you men talk to each other. You sound like you're giving each other fighting words, like you're just about to throw down. I was getting ready for you two to just explode at each other, and then next second you're drinking together." * Basically all of this Troper's early childhood friendships were like this. * This troper was once sitting in science class, minding her own business. Suddenly, a classmate who she considers a friend but who she almost never speaks to walked up and said "Hey, -Troper-! Wouldn't it

be awesome if we had an epic rivalry? We could run down the halls hitting each other with battle axes and screaming 'YOU SHALL NEVER DEFEAT ME!'" This troper went "Uhhh, sure..." and walked off. She couldn't think of a good response until quite some time later. * ThisTroper's relationship with two of her best friends involves lots of going out of our way to annoy each other, and me being the foulmouthed one in the group, everybody loves to make me lose The Game [HA!] to get me to swear at them - although it's somewhat undermined because I get a big grin on my face every single time. * This troper and his best friend like to start absurd argument over ''nothing''. Because it's ''funny''. We disagreed on the exact color of a certain yogurt one day. [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity ensued.]] We exchange insults as greetings. It's almost a game. Whoever runs out of mean names first loses. And then they get called "loser". Yep. ** Of course, since she's a girl, she'd probably murder me if I ever tried this trope in the physical sense. Works for me. Getting kicked in the nuts sucks. * [[EtherealFrog This Troper]] habitually builds these sort of relationships with anyone he befriends. Once while discussing with one of my friends why I'm so patient with my annoying step-brother, I said the following quote:"Around the time I would've punched you in the stomach I'm still answering his damn questions!" He took it in stride and we continued on, concluding that hate is a sign of love and indifference a sign of hate. But we probably concluded that years ago. I might be a closet sadist. There was also the time I got in a fight with one of my friends over something stupid, ending up with a bloody nose and an underlying fear and will to comply with his demands. * This troper (an {{ExtremeDoormat}}) and her [[JerkAss best friend]] fit this trope perfectly. * A rule of thumb with this troper is that the meaner she is to you, the more she cares about you. It's so bad that when I spent a week ''not'' insulting anyone, the friendship group commented that they were bored and wanted me to go back to normal. * This Troper is good friends with the coworker who sits next to him. When another coworker was leaving the company and saying goodbye to each of us, she commented that whenever she heard me and my friend "chat" during work, she was half-expecting us to get up and start beating the crap out of each other any moment. * A lot of people are confused as to how this Troper and his best friend can be friends at all, as we're both highly competitive people who are always seeking to one-up each other. * ThisTroper tends to be a Type B with a friend from the Uni. [[NotAcountforTaste Deadpan Snarker, Stealth Insulths]], [[WithFriendsLikeThese Sarcasting Clapping and precision F Strike]] [[LampshadeHanging all lead to an interesting relationship...]] * This troper and her best friend were like this in high school (separating for college basically put an end to that). We fought like clockwork every couple of weeks. Half the school thought we hated each other; the other half thought [[SlapSlapKiss we were dating]]. As it turned out, [[PlatonicLifePartners neither half was right]]. * I had a Type B friendship almost my entire life with one person, and when she moved away, people stepped up to fill her role of constantly

verbally abusing me, people who I had always been nice to, people who I continued to be nothing but nice to. BreakTheCutie ensued, until I snapped, bitched them out for treating me like crap constantly, and then they apologized. Happy to report I refused to accept the apology, and made some friends who were willing to treat me like an actual person. * I have this with a few best friends. I think I summed it up the other day with the words "He's someone who can't be corrupted away from calling me a wanker". * This troper has one. She's female and we cross almost every swear word as possible. But we do treat well each other. * [[KillerClowns This troper]] and his roommate. We pile on the lame insults; this troper is a LawfulGood capitalist who nonetheless operates under RuleOfFunny, while his roommate a ChaoticGood socialist with a preference for RuleOfCool. When we compete ''against'' each other, the battles tend to become brutal, and, depending on who's winning, either [[HilarityEnsues hilarious]], [[PureAwesomeness awesome]], or sometimes '''[[BeyondTheImpossible both]]'''. But, as our co-op rounds of SuperMarioBrosWii demonstrate, [[BashBrothers when we're on the same side]], we demonstrate that [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill overkill]] is both [[RuleOfFunny funny]] ''and'' [[RuleOfCool awesome]]. * Me and my boyfriend. We'll hurl insults back and forth, but if [[BerserkButton anyone dares to try]] [[YourHeadAsplode to harm one metaphorical]] [[YanDere hair on his/my head]]... * [[Tropers/{{Gallows}} This Troper]] has been called out on the fact that the more he likes someone, the meaner he is to them. He rarely gets physical with his female friends, but that's mostly because they would make him feel like a CompleteMonster. However, friendships with males are rife with "I'm gonna kick your ass!" * This Troper has discovered that she's only violent and abusive to people she likes-to the extent that even she and her parents are type B of this trope * As one of this troper's friends is fond of saying, "I don't have friends, I have walking insult generators." * This troper. With everyone. Generally speaking, the more I like someone, the more I insult them. Yes, I know it's not healthy and yes I have tried therapy. Dammit. Luckily I did get it down to a level to where there are people tolerate me long enough for me to make them aware of this. * This troper and her sister have been friends with this one girl (who will be called M) for several years now. This troper gets along with said friend well enough, but her sister and M have completely different personalities, disagree on pretty much everything, and bicker almost every time they get together. And yet. * This Troper and his best friend. Lawful Good and Chaotic Neutral(Sometimes more Neutral Evil), Chivalrous Pervert and Leisure Suit Larry, Blue Oni and Red Oni, The Super Ego and The Id, The Messiah and Idiot Hero, Knight in Shining Armor and Heroic Sociopath, Honor before Reason and the Combat Pragmatist, I can do this all day. We balanced each other out, were Knight Templar Big Brothers(Little Brother in this Troper's Case), and altogether loved each other like

real brothers...with only moderate Ho Yay. * This Troper is in Air Force ROTC as a crosstown student, meaning I go to one school, but take ROTC courses at another. Some of my best friends here are Army ROTC. Let the ribbing commence. Not to mention the ribbing between the actually Air Force cadets. * This Troper and one of her guyfriends have a relationship like this, I'm a Hollywood homely, meganekko and junior hot librarian with some action girl tendencies who is very patient with her hotblooded, jerk with a heart of gold, deadpan snarker guyfriend. We are very different and we will take any oppurtunities to make fun of each other, my friend will make jokes about me more often, but when I do it, I cut him like a knife. But we still get along, and that's the main thing. And if he wasn't homosexual, I swear one of my friends would be shipping us into slap-slap kiss relationship. * ThisTroper was arguing with a co-worker who it is a PhraseCatcher for my volley's of "Shut the Fuck up", when a new boss walked by and told us to "play nice". Another co-worker had to explain that we were playing nice, much to the new boss' surprise. Subverted with another co-worker and myself, who the boss learned from day one have this relationship. Hell, if this troper doesn't have this relationship with someone, they aren't really his friends. * This troper has had both types of this relationships with all of his friends, whenever it's Type A, I'm usually on the {{Jerkass}} side, but when I heard that one of my friends had died, [[ManlyTears I was one of the first to shed tears]]. * This Troper has known his friend for almost six years now, and we can't seem to go thirty seconds without making a joke at each other's expense, or just being an outright {{Jerkass}} to each other. Sometimes we need to give each other a WhatTheHellHero talk. However, every time somebody's tried to bring one of us down, the other is the first to come to their aid. * This trope describes this troper's friendship with one of his friends. Every day, he punches my arm at exactly 1 o' clock. During the computer class we both have, we mess with each other's computers, spamming buttons to open Outlook and what not a few bajillion times. Yet we're still friends. I did recently introduce him to this site, though, so he might just become one of us. * I knew a few people like this in high school. Two guys would hang out a lot; one described the other as a facetious douchebag whose wit was his only redeeming quality. The other was a guy who made fun of everything, including himself. My relationship with both of them had some shades of this; I said one looked like a weasel and the other lived on the poor side of town. * The more this troper likes you, the more likely he'll use violence on you. This explains this troper's small group of friends. It helps immensely if you're willing to put up with a ChaoticNeutral, who'll [[CorruptTheCutie corrupt you]] just for fun. He'll help you if you need it. And if you ask this troper to get revenge for you, don't complain too much about his methods. * This troper and his brother. We fight a lot, but we're also probably the closest friends either of us has. * This troper and most of his friends fall into this.

* This troper used to hang out with one group of friends where "your mom" jokes became so commonplace we actually got far enough to take a joke pointed at you a level further yourself. (for instance "I'll be a while, I have to upload all these naked pictures your mom gave me to my computer". "why? Don't you know the website"?). unfortunately, I'm only in touch with one of them nowadays. * This troper and one good friend have this sort of relationship. He mocks me for looking like I'm four years younger than my actual age and being remarkably absent-minded, and I make fun of him for being manorexic and his musical tastes (he unironically likes Europe. And the genre of grindcore). But at the end of the day, we're still great friends. * This Troper's a nice guy, unless you're friends with him. * [[Xifihas This Troper]] has this sort of relationship with a very close friend. It was bound to happen considering he's a Keet and I'm a SnarkKnight. Typically I riff on his inability to stay still and his speech impediment while he makes fun of my verbal tic (pausing in the middle of any sentence longer than three words). It's actually quite enjoyable. * Most people think that this troper and her best friend hate each other. Said best friend likes to ambush and attack me from the behind,and I usually retaliate with a metal bar. * One of this troper's good friends is a completely egotistical bastard which I regularly remind him of. He then regularly reminds I'm a completely psychotic nutjob. We're theatre majors so it really isn't surprising to anyone. I explain it as "He and I have that special love, the kind where you completely hate each other" * This troper constantly reminds his best friend that he's a womanizing asshole, except in more vulgar terms, and with more violence. He constantly reminds this troper that they're the same, except this troper's short stories and fanfics are usually filled with less idealistic love, and more dark humor. * The more I like someone, the less respectful I am to them. If someone asks me if one of my best friends is one of my friends, I express disgust and start insulting them. People who don't know us will then ask "So why do you even hang out with them if they're such a <insert insult here>?" "Makes me look better." * Me and one of my, uhem, buddies ARE this. We often duel and have playful banter. Insult each other et cetera...Just the way it is... * This troper has a friend who most people, upon first seeing us interact, think she has some sort of arch-nemesis relationship with. We always have to explain that we're actually quite close. I like to call him my "good friend who I can't stand". However, after finding out we actually like each other deep down, they think we're just kidding ourselves and trying to deny sexual attraction to each other. Sigh. * [[RedShocktrooper I'm]] in this sort of friendship with one of my internet buddies. We disagree on multiple fronts, down to how we play TeamFortress2 (he's a career sniper, vs. me being very BruteForce and in-your-face who doubles as a Ninja Pyro). Naturally, when we manage to play on the same team by some sheer amount of luck, we complement each other nicely.

* [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] with [[Tropers/{{loracarol}} this troper]]... I met this guy, and we had a VitriolicBestBuds thing going on. Later, we thought maybe it was SlapSlapKiss, and we started going out. [[{{Understatement}} It didn't end very well...]] * Happens to this troper and some of her friends. We all snark/insult each other but in the name of good fun and we're there for each other when we need to be. * This troper has a bit of a subverted version of type 2 in that we both actually do share a mutual dislike for each other, and openly admit it to ourselves and others when asked. 'Friends' is quite a stretch, which we happily like to remind people. We'd run each other under the bus quite willingly if given a good enough reason. Yet we're almost never apart because we consider each other the most interesting person around, and to not hang around each other is simply too damn boring... in the end, it's quite an unhealthy relationship. But damned if it isn't fun! * This troper and his brother are this trope, though we seem to be stuck between types 1 and 2. He's usually the one doing the insulting; I'm just too nice to retaliate. ** My dad as well. "I only pick on people I like," is practically his CatchPhrase. * This Troper is like this with one of his best online friends, so much so that we consider each other "debate buddies". We're opposites in everything: writing styles, (justified because we met on a fan fiction site in the first place) politics, (he's conservative, I'm liberal, the only thing we agree upon is the legality of abortion: discouraged but legal in case of rape or a similar emergency) and religion. (he's an outspoken Christian, I'm a Unitarian Universalist who draws most of my beliefs from Hinduism and Buddhism, like reincarnation) Despite this though, we're always happy to see each other and we trust each other with everything as far as internet friendships go. * Me and one of my closest fans act like this regularly. Having both partaken of the (non-alcoholic) version of the MyImmortal Drinking Game, we decided that one of our greetings would be "hey bitch, you look kawaii." Or just "bitch" Another two of my BFF Forever/s (redundancy intended) call all of their friends, including me, "hoebag." It's sweet, really! Also, my and a...what is this, 4th on the list? friend had an entire back-and-forth thing cussing the shit out of each other. I love that girl &#9829; ** But yeah. We're all sort of Type 2. I only make fun of your azness Lamson because I love you. * [[{{@/Nerdarena}} My]] best friend and I are Type II, oh so much. I'm shorter, louder, and more violent; she's taller and [[TheSnarkKnight better with the zingers]], [[ComebackTomorrow though infrequent]]. Insults about fandoms, appearances, and sexuality are fair game. She's an Aspie {{Otaku}}, I'm a spastic AttentionWhore, [[hottip:* :Mishmash of Japan--her--and English--my--culture fangirling, I mean this in the most offensive way possible. [[NWordPrivileges Respectively, the terms carry their literal meaning]]]] so on and so forth. We both know that we'd be friendless losers if we didn't have each other.

* This trope fits this editor and her best friend to a T. At first we were more of a type one, with me being more meek and him generally ripping me apart, but now we're on equal terms, so I shamelessly berate him for his bad decisions, and he never hesitates to mock my involuntary celibacy, among other things. People have been literally shocked silent by how badly we rip on one another, especially, when one of us has done something REALLY (i.e. borderline lifethreateningly) stupid, but it doesn't change the fact that we're essentially inseperable and those who know us well enough know that most of it is our twisted way of saying "I was worried about you. I care about you. Please be more careful". * In [[{{FairyDreamer}} this troper's]] {{Nakama}}, one of her friends is a [[{{JerkWithAHeartofGold}} jerk with a huge heart of gold]]. She doesn't like to do her own homework and is always trying to get someone else to do it for her (in fact, she's really just plain lazy). She's a smart-mouthed, sarcastic pain-in-the-butt and she enjoys trying to play Matchmaker, much to all of our dismay. Yet, we still love her as our friend and she'll come to our defense for just about anything. Recently, she choked a person to get them to apologize for saying something very offensive to this troper. ** Said troper and her younger sister are also this way. We will fight like animals (physically and verbally) and are at each other's throats practically 24/7. We say the nastiest things to each other (besides cursing) and from the outside, it really just looks like we can't stand each other's presence. At the same time, we're very defensive of each other and genuinely love each other. If anyone deeply offends one of us, the other one will have no problem fixing that person. We're actually pretty alike (don't think we'll admit it, though). * Ohhhhh yeah. I have an online friend who I bicker and argue with a lot (leading to three very large "IT'S OVER" fights between us), but at the end of the day we love each other. She's the [[{{Aerosmith}} Joe Perry]] [[HeterosexualLifePartners to my]] [[{{Aerosmith}} Steven Tyler.]] (An in-joke, we are both big Aerosmith fans and roleplay as characters based off Joe and Steven. Guess who plays who.) * This (female) troper is like this pretty much all the time with her (male) best friend. The fact that this troper is kind of a {{Tsundere}} probably doesn't help either. We can insult each other to the point of tears, and the next day he'll be over my house raiding the fridge for snacks. And we wouldn't have it any other way. [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend But he IS NOT MY BOYFRIEND!!!]] * This (female) troper had a (male) friend in high school, with whom I had a type 1-ish relationship. I had the tendency to tease him about his nerdiness... and social ineptness... and pervertedness... and bizarre, violent anger issues... and... well, basically, the more things I found to tease him about, the more I realized I actually kind of hated him and I REALLY hated getting mistaken as his girlfriend. I still see the guy around and am making it clear that I'm avoiding him at all costs. Yes, I'm a jerkass. No, I don't regret that particular decision. * I have two seperate groups of friends: my work friends who often hang out with me outside of work, and my personal friends. While the closest work buddies all have some shades of this occasionally, every

single person in my personal circle are definitely type twos to everyone else. We are all [[TheSnarkKnight masters of the zinger]] and doing and saying downright foul things to each other is pretty much our way of having fun together. Heaven help you if you do anything to jeopardize one or our number's health or life. * [[DeadpanSnarker This Troper]] and his [[AnythingThatMoves pansexual]] [[HeterosexualLifePartner best friend]] are totally like this, we bitch and nag at eachother constantly but when push comes to shove we're the only one the other can count on. Thick as Thieves as it were. Sadly [[HoYay most our friends ship us]]. * This troper and her HeterosexualLifePartner of almost a decade are the epitome of type 2. In high school, after a spectacular discussion about whether or not she was trespassing (she claimed she wasn't touching my part of the table, I agreed but claimed she was in my airspace), our teacher saw fit to separate us because she thought we were on the verge of physical violence. To be completely honest, we probably were, but that doesn't mean we wouldn't die for each other should it ever come to that. * I was this way with a friend, until I realized he was actually just an asshole. ** I was in a similar situation, though she really wasn't a bitch when we were VitriolicBestBuds. We used to fight, insult the other, point out the other's faults and then quickly make up, but when she started being [[TheLibby manipulative and cruel]] instead of merely violent and snarky, we stopped hanging out. * [[{{GosuroriOtaku}} This troper]] and her twin sister are certainly type 2. Constantly bickering, trading insults and snarking at each other, people tend to assume we're arguing and are going to turn violent, but it's really just how we show our affection. (Even our parents make that mistake. Honestly, though, we'd do anything for each other.) * I'm like this with one of my trio of best friends. We have been volunteering together lately, selling Churros (me) and Pizza (her) right next to each other. So far we have insulted clothing, threatened stabbing, hit each other, insulted intelligence, and a litany of other insults that I just can't be assed to remember. The other volunteers were getting concerned and trying to mediate, so we ended up having to point out that we were best friends and it was perfectly fine. Apparently though, the customers think it's awesome, because they keep tipping us. * My best friend an I are this in spades. We argue all the time to the point that his cousin who often hangs out with us has stated more than once we fight like a married couple (and we're both guys for the record). A good example is that a couple of weeks ago we were both playing {{World Of Warcraft}} and he made a statement about some of our guildies changing class. Any normal player knows that this isn't possible. What followed was a 10 minute argument for the third or fourth time that there is no class change feature. Eventually I bring him undeniable proof if it and he comes back with "Then explain to me how he's a gnome now!?" After a long pause I flip my lid yelling that that was a race change. His response? "Same difference!" At this point I just went nuts and dropped the conversation. Two minutes later we

were talking like it never happened. * This Troper has figured out how two of her best friends deliverher abuse. One is the physical while the other is the verbal, and together their emotional. I wouldn't have them any other way. The funny thing is, when i met one(the one that verbally abuses me), I thought he was a complete asshole. Now I know that's just who he is, and he's actually really not that bad at all. * This troper has a relationship like this with her two best male friends (strangely, my best ''female'' friend and I are the exact opposite). We smack, pinch, and hit each other as greetings. Our nicknames for each other? The cynical computer geek is "manipulative/heartless (depends on our moods) bastard", the funloving romantic is "stupid asshole", and I (the melodramatic movie buff) am "shrill bitch". Heartwarming, no? Still, we spend a copious amount of time with each other, and have admitted that our lives would suck if we didn't know each other or weren't friends. Also, it should be pointed out that, while the guys have no problems with other people calling ''them'' their nicknames, if anyone calls me mine, they turn into real [[PapaWolf papa wolves]]. * This Troper and his PlatonicLifePartner are like this. We constantly tease each other, and wrestle all the time. We're really close and I was there to comfort her during her family's divorce, but then afterwords gave her a wedgie that ripped a hole in her underwear. * This troper and her boyfriend fit this well. Throughout the day, we argue about important stuff, like PC versus Mac, as well as making jokes to each other's expense. This often happens while we're cuddled up together. * Picture, if you will, a rather light-skinned Mexican man, slightly overweight and rather lax and docile in nature. That would be me. Then picture his best friend. If you thought of a black nerd with moderate 'fro with anger issues who insults and hates everything, congrats. You are both correct, and most likely psychic. Get out of my fucking head. In all seriousness, we are far closer than 2 guys like us have any right to be. He's usually the one volleying insults and smartass comments, and depending on my mood, I either take it in stride or strike back rather quickly. Either way, we don't exactly give off the impression of being buddies. ESPECIALLY when playing online games. If you were to see us playing Left4Dead or some shit, you'd think we hated each other. I love the bastard, though. We've actually bought each other gifts over the Internet at least twice now. If it weren't for him, I'd probably have jumped off a bridge by now. * I have this with a lot of people, and they have it with more, because my friends are a bizzare melting pot of {{Deadpan Snarker}}s, {{Cloud Cuckkoo Lander}}s, and the occaisional NiceGuy who tends to end up as our DesignatedMonkey...however, special mention goes to me and [[FurryFandom Harry]]. Our relationship can literallly be summed up as "We're so close we have no problem verbally bitchslapping eachother into a wall". He calls me a whore, so I call him a nerd; he has a crack at me for being short (I prefer the term 'fun sized' or 'tallness challenged'), so I remark on how he can't draw- repeat until people wonder why we haven't killed eachother yet. * One of my friends... I think. To be honest, I'm not really sure...

We get on each others nerves sufficiently, but we also stick up for each other. Gah, I'm so confused!!! * Type 2 - I regularly have this with a younger friend of mine who has a reputation for being a sarcastic troll online whilst I'm the 'nicey nice' girl. We tend to wind each other up with insults, arguments (that I win) and jibes at each other's age (as he's 14 and I'm 18). Whilst he trolls me and others online, I can easily troll him back in reality which tends to overwhelm him and so our odd friendship works on that basis. But when either of us is having a bad time we both help each other and quit the trolling for a while, which actually surprises him when I offer my shoulder. He's a nice kid when he's not being irritating and we can get on pretty well. But we don't tend to admit in public that we're friends... although I just did. * This troper is a type two with one of her guy friends, although she dishes it out more than he does. We trade insults, and I often threaten to beat him up. Some people don't quite get that it's all in good fun. But we're really tight, and he's sticking by me through some rather tough times and I really appreciate his friendship. * I'm not part of a relationship like this myself, but sweet CrystalDragonJesus, I know a few who ''are'' in the {{Megamind}} fandom. Honestly, they continuously bad-mouth eachother over the net in [[RefugeInVulgarity the most vile and disturbing ways]] [[UpToEleven they can manage]]; just about any outsider would [[{{Squick}} cringe]] and assume that they utterly despised eachother. * [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/Dalek955 This troper]], his little brother and our friends are Type 2, big-time. We figure that anyone who A) is related to us or B) voluntarily tolerates us [[SelfDeprecatingHumor is stained by association]]. * [[@/{{Pastylover2}} This troper]] and ''every'' female friend he's got. However, this maybe covering some {{UST}} with some said female friends. He's also like this with his best male friend who also has cerebral palsy. * [[Tropers/IronicMouse This troper]] and his younger brother are Type 2. He's an athletic, outgoing rocker, and I'm an introverted, nerdy gamer (but we're both engineers). He thinks most of the stuff I like is crazy, and most of his music gives me a headache. He can't stand my TechnoBabble, and his {{Badass Boast}}s ''really'' get on my nerves. But, we've been the best of friends since we were little, and we each go the other first when we're looking for personal advice. * Me and my oldest friend are a minor type 2 we sometimes tend to just endlessly snip at each other without respite before we start proclaiming how much we love each other. HOWEVER me and the guy who grew up with the two of us are a pure type one. I've spent YEARS berating this guy every change I get until I compliment a performance of his and I'm sweet for a while. By the way yes. Me and him are trying to cover up some INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS {{UST}}. ---You're so useless, you can't even take this link back to Main/VitriolicBestBuds! So, bowling this Tuesday? <<|TroperTales|>>

VocalDissonance * This Troper's friend is a short, delicate girl, with a child-like, round face and a low, raspy voice of a metal vocalist. * [[Tropers/ThatTroper This troper]], when looking at pictures of {{Supernatural}} characters, saw Dean and Castiel and assumed they'd have smooth voices. Imagine her confusion when she found a clip involving them and was confronted by rough gravelly voices that she did not at all apply to them. * [[Tropers/{{Seiryu}} This troper]], being the only older brother to two younger sisters, has the ability to perfectly mimic the vocal mannerisms of a teenage ValleyGirl. Every time I do this, the room falls to dead silence, followed by at least one person asking "Where the hell did ''that'' come from?" ** I also found Tycho's voice in PokerNightAtTheInventory to be a bit... weird. I mean, I thought that he'd have a bit of a coarser tone, not that weird semi-smooth voice. If that makes '''any''' sense at all. * This Troper's friend is practically the textbook definition of a WASP and usually sings a gorgeous, clear-as-a-bell, tenor. In Little Shop of Horrors, everyone was utterly shocked at his uncanny ability to produce a deep, gravelly, soul-tastic voice for The Plant that sounded like it should be coming from a large black man, not an Aryan farmboy. The majority of the audience believed the voice of the plant was a recording until he came out for the bows. Even then, some were still convinced it was some kind of hoax. ** This Troper herself played Audrey, and managed to fool her own family into not recognizing her due to the blonde wig, heavy makeup and high-pitched, nasally, Brooklyn-accented voice she used for the part. * [[Tropers/{{Tuckerscreator}} This troper]] does this to '''THEMSELVES''', while watching recordings of their voice. Their voice pre-puberty was rather high and breathy, following it turning much deeper and squawky is particularly horrifying. /while speaking they don't notice it, unless they go for a particularly long time, and thus realize: "[[FridgeHorror Wait, do I really sound like that?!]]" * This troper isn't an example of this, but she knows a boy who has somehow managed to have VocalDissonance ''twice''. He looks kind of nebbishy, like he should logically sound like JerryLewis. Then he opens his mouth, and out comes the deep, manly baritone. And then he acted in a skit in the school variety show, and somehow managed to turn aforementioned baritone into a nasally, high-pitched, somewhat CampGay voice. Nobody knew it was him until he jumped out at the end. * This troper speaks with a voice somewhere near tenor or baritone, depending on who he's talking to, and sings with a baritone voice. He's 5'3" and he was [[{{Transsexual}} designated female at birth]]. He is not/has never been on testosterone. * This troper is a thin 5''2 female that has been told that she's got the nerdy version of an EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette thing going on. People tend to be surprised when she opens her mouth and talks (and sings) in a deeper baritone than most boys at the school. * This troper works with a stereotypical nerd: frizzy red hair, big

glasses, short, scrawny, and...a deep baritone voice. * This troper is a petite girl with a HimeCut and a passion for ElegantGothicLolita clothing, and doesn't look a day over 12. My voice is also as low, if not lower, than most guys my age. ---That grating sound you heard? That's the beauty of examples waiting at VocalDissonance. ----

VoldeMart * The local Wal Mart(s) are pretty much the epitome of skittering around laws, rules, and actually ''having'' to do any work. Almost every time I'd go in there, there'd only seem to be people working on the register (Meaning there would be messes that'd lay on the floor for ''HOURS'' before people would clean them up). Don't ever buy food there because most of the stuff that ''isn't'' rotated in at least weekly (Like meats and fruits) has often expired or has been open for ''days''. As for skitting around rules and laws? Lessee...several people actually worked full time, yet they second they become eligible for benefits, they're ''mysteriously'' dropped down to part-time. Then an applicant was found out to be illegal...and was suddenly given like 80-hour-workweeks with pay that was ''lower'' than minimum wage. (They were giving this guy around $4 an hour. State Minimum wage at the time was over $6.) Then the second he announced that he was officially a citizen, he was told that he was cut back to part-time to "Save money" despite that they hired ''several people'' to replace the hours they now lost. You'd be written up for missing work even ''if'' you called in sick and/or had a replacement, were in the back hurling your guts out, or were taken out to the hospital. (because people desperately needed hours, several times I'd see people picking up trash cans under the register and vomiting into them so they wouldn't get written up.) Corporate standards said that unless people were abusing breaks and taking hour-long-breaks, they had to be given at least 15 minutes...the second someone abused it and took a 40 minute smoking break...they cut them down to 10 minutes and told people you had to take a slip ''all the way back of the store'' before you could go on break, ''and'' you had to be back at your post the second your break ended. (Not that bad if you were in the stock room, but the registers were a good two-to-three minute walk from the back) And don't get me ''started'' on the Returns section. (Several times, people have reported having been accused of stealing something or tampering with it so they could get free money. :/) *** Yeesh. And people ask me why I hate Wal-Mart. I hope the Chinese government gets overthrown so that a democratic one can be installed, they can set up fair tariffs with the U.S., and PUT WAL-MART OUT OF BUISNESS ONCE! AND! FOR! ALL!!! And find jobs for all those out of work, of course. Some how. ** The local Golden Corral was also blacklisted as a "DO NOT WORK THERE". Unless you were cooking the food, they'd pay you about $2.40 an hour. Yes I'm well aware that in America, you're allowed to pay waiters and waitresses below minimum wage...as ''long'' as they make

up the difference in tips. People don't tip in Golden Corral (Being a buffet), and then they do, it's ''not'' enough to make up for it. You were also required to come in an hour before your shifts and wash dishes or wrap silverware...during which you were ''NOT PAID''. The person on the register also got absolutely ''no'' tips. Thankfully this place went out of business, at least the location did. * The Local Wal-Mart where this troper lives actually had people take expired products and hide it in competitors' stores, especially Target, and then report them to the Better Business Bureau or health department for stocking expired stuff. * My ice skating rink... my precious ice skating rink, where the owners themselves always greeted the regulars at lessons... They were devastated when a(n objectively inferior, to boot) chain rink put them out of business. So was this troper, and she's barely skated since... (The other rink is run by jerks, the teachers are far less competent than the other place, and even the ice itself is inferior.) There ought to be laws against things like that. "No big chain places allowed within a certain amount of miles of a mom-and-pop place offering an uncommon service." (There are few rinks around here; it'd have been different if there were more, but nooo...) ---Don't go back to VoldeMart! The food's bad, the service is poor, you get what you pay for, and it'll just run this Mom and Pop place out of business! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

VomitChainReaction * This troper's dorm has an annual Milk Chug, where a bunch of guys attempt to drink an entire gallon of milk in an hour. Usually everyone will hold out for a while, until one person loses it, at which point at least five or six others will immediately follow suit. ** [[MightyJAK This troper]] thinks he may have given himself an ulcer attempting this. Succeeded in downing the entire gallon of white milk, followed by vomiting up '''pink''' milk. Ugh... * [[MightyJAK This troper]] loved that SNL skit (see the main page) for that brilliant AdLib... ''(vomiting sounds, SpecialEffectsFailure)'' ''"What's the matter?"'' ''"Dry heaves, (special effects kick in) oh wait here it comes BLARF"'' * One time, my family and I driving home from Disneyland. My dad suddenly had to throw up. I then wound up vomiting every twenty minutes or so (thank goodness for plastic bags). * In fourth grade, my class was walking back to our room after the traditional pre-Thanksgiving lunch of sliced turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes and cranberry sauce. Just as we coincidentally passed the nurses' office, the first little girl in line suddenly threw up. This caused a chain reaction of nearly every other kid in line to toss their cookies at the sight of the one before them. Hallway full of barf. Nurse Jenson was not happy.

* This troper's dad had an experience of this in 4th grade. His school served Spam at lunch. Whether it was a bad batch of Spam, or one kid just had a stomach bug and grossed everyone else out is unknown. All he knows is that when that one kid went off, the others started too. To this day, he has quite an aversion to Spam, and will not serve it in our home. (Which is just fine with this troper.) ** Probably a stomach bug, off Spam is almost impossible, for a number of reasons, foremost being my theory that humans are the only organisms possible of even acknowledging the existance of Spam, something of a cullinary {{Brown Note}}. * Once when this troper was little and threw up my sister also vomited, my mom who is easily grossed out almost did too. * Narrowly adverted by [[Tropers/{{Ladygem}} this troper]] during her first night of EMS duty. She was completely unprepared for just how bad drunk vomit smells compared to regular vomit and had to swallow her own back a few times until [[ItGetsEasier she got used to it]]. * What happens when you take a disgustingly neglected salt-water fishtank, most of the students having coming back to Iowa from Florida in the middle of flu-season, and having been on snack foods for most of drive back? This trope. I was four of seven, the reactions being drawn out over ten minutes after the initial student. * This troper has seen this happen ''in a bus, in the middle of a 6hour trip''. One kid became extremely carsick, and vomited onto the guy in front of him, with... predictable results, given what page I'm posting this on. We were on a mountain road, incidentally, and miles away from any safe place to pull over. ---Go back to VomitChainReaction...before...'''BLARF'''...'''OH GOD!''' ... before I've got you doing this also. ----

VoodooShark * In a chatroom for an rp. Someone mentioned batteries so I asked and the responded that their characters was another characters mana battery. I asked what that was supposed to mean ans she has the person who is the other character to explain. He was afk or something so I never got the answer.

VorpalPillow * This is one of [[Tropers/{{Vorpy}} Vorpy]]'s attacks in me and my friend's extreme Pillow Fights. It acts similarly in the same method, minus the death. Don't try it at home, kiddies. :P

WackyCravings * This troper always has a strange craving for applesauce and bagels, together. Also, broccoli and ketchup is pretty tasty, but only at night for some reason. * My mother craved ice cream so much during her fourth and last pregnancy, she took us kids out for ice cream literally ''every day''.

My baby sister wasn't born until late August. That was a ''good'' summer... * My stepmom told me about how she craved ''matches'' when she was pregnant with one of my stepbrothers (the older one, I think)- some mineral she wasn't getting enough of, sulfur probably, I forget. * I was two weeks late. My mother was so depressed by the hormone swings that she ate a whole pan of brownies one night. The serotonin made her go into labour. It took me twelve hours to be born because my head was too big to fit through the birth canal, which the serotonin had made contract for some bizarre reason. * A non-pregnancy-related example. This troper knew a girl who had a tendency to proclaim her craving for some specific food item such as a certain flavour of icecream or pizza with such-and-such topping. * This Troper has found that in the morning he craves a Fettucini Alfredo sandwich. And for some reason, it has to be cold. He's never really liked pasta, too. ''IT MAKES NO GODDAMN SENSE.'' ** You ain't lyin'; it really makes NO sense. But this troper can't throw stones, he went to five different Starbucks during his lunch break because he simply had to have the caramel apple cider with the caramel syrup. I'm sorry, they're really good. * Another non-pregnancy example. This troper once spent over an hour with a severe hankering for Swiss Chard (a leafy, spinich-esque veggie) with olive oil and garlic. Although, given that I was at Uni and hadn't eaten anything green for a while, maybe my body was trying to tell me something. * This troper's coworker had cravings for the smell of new tires while pregnant. What the hell. ** Who knows? New video game packaging smells pretty good as well. * This troper's mother craved the smell of gasoline whilst pregnant with her. Which apparently transfered to this troper-she loves the smell, whereas the rest of her family hates it. * This troper's friend cannot play guitar without eating a Kinder Bueno afterwards. I don't blame him mind. ** [[Tropers.ReikoKazama I]] can see why. [[EverythingsBetterWithChocolate Those things are luscious.]] * This Trope's Mother craved Pickled Onions when she was pregnant with him. He can't get enough of the damn things. * This Troper's mother craved cheesecake while she was pregnant with me, and sushi while my little sister was in there. Just try to guess our favorite foods. * While I was in India I had cravings for Vegemite (black salty tasting spread that Australians eat). Not on toast or anything, but a huge lump of it on a plate, eaten with a small piece of egg shell. I think by the end of the trip I'd eaten about 500g of it like that. * Whenever [[{{Tropers/Gobolt}} this troper]] hears either of two tracks, he will instantly start craving for cereal. * Whenever this troper thinks about lunch meat, an instant baloney and tuna salad craving comes up. No idea why, but the combination is good in a sandwitch. * [[Tropers/DokEnkephalin This troper's]] mother wasn't a smoker and didn't drink coffee before pregnancy with him. But she did have cravings for them, so she ripped open cigarettes to eat the tobacco,

and ate coffee out of the can. I've had caffeine and nicotine since I was a fetus, and still wonder whether it's really her that wanted them or I demanded them. My own strangest craving has been picante sauce and chocolate, which makes a better combo than it sounds, really. ** She ATE tobacco? As in, actually swallowing it? I always thought eating that stuff was extremely poisonous (as opposed to smoking it where it only results in a mild 'kick' and bad health.) * This troper's craving? Sandwiches. No matter what it is on this earth, if it's in between two pieces of bread with some kind of spread I will swallow it whole. ** Same with this one. He regularly nabs mayo and bread from the fridge to go with whatever dinner he's having. * [[Tropers/PurplePantherGirl This troper's]] mother craved Greek Youghurt when she was pregnant with me. I cannot stand the stuff. I hate most youghurts actually. * It makes kind of sense, with the whole getting-in-character thing and all, but when [[{{Tropers/Haza}} this troper]] cosplays L, she starts craving sweet stuff -- and she actually ''hates'' sweets, so much that the first time she had to do it she thought she couldn't be able to eat the mountain of sweets she was carrying. She was swiftly proved wrong by herself. Seriously, try to give her anything sweet when she's out of character. She might puke. * This troper usually craves chocolate at that time of the month. Last month it was ''oatmeal''. ** This lurker has a similar issue. Except replace 'chocolate' with 'garlic mixed with rice' and 'oatmeal' with 'melted cheese and onion sandwiches'. *** This troper tends to crave eggs and sweet things two or three days ''before'' her period--and once it starts, she adds an overwhelming craving for crunchy foods and salt. Salty foods will do in a pinch, but she constantly eats actual salt from the ''shaker''. She does her best to drink water, but the last part still horrifies her mother. * [[Tropers/AMereServantOfGod This troper]] is male, but doesn't require pregnancy to have Wacky Cravings. For example: he (he meaning I) loves barbecue sauce, but cannot handle spicy foods, so what he does is get a bowl full of shredded cheese, preferably mozzarella, to act as a dampener and pours barbecue sauce all over it. Also, peanut butter in a bowl, Chocolate syrup. Microwave for 45 seconds. Stir with spoon and eat. Yummy! * When this tropers mother was carrying me, she craved apples. Not too wierd, except that they later became my TrademarkFavouriteFood. ** Beware of [[SnowWhite old women peddling them at your door]]. * [[{{Tropers/Filby}} This editor]]'s mother had cravings for saltine crackers washed down with milk. Lo and behold, it turned out to be one of my favorite snacks as well. * My mum told me that she craved asparagus. It remains one of her favourite foods, although ''I'' can't stand it. * My wife's cravings were pretty mundane - pepperoni pizza, chocolate milkshakes, et cetera - but what was amazing was how ''urgently'' she needed them. As in: "PIZZA. ''NOW.''" * Not a pregnancy example, but "that time of the month". I usually crave chocolate and anything salty. Potato chips, pickles, ''pickle

juice drunk straight from the jar'', and ice cream. Lots and lots of ice cream. ** Same here. [[Tropers/ZiggyStardustForever This troper]] always goes through alternating salty (usually chips) and sweet (usually chocolate) phases, depending on the time of month. ** Pickle juice is awesome. ** Every girl I know (including myself) craves that sort of thing during that time of the month. * At that time of the month this troper ''craves'' alcohol. She normally doesn't drink, but what really gets her is that should she have her once-a-month drink, the cramps are not nearly as bad. Considering that they, the cramps, are painful to the point she prefers the first degree burns she sometimes gets from the rice packs not only appear through the belly, but across the back and down her legs sometimes all the way to the ankle, she'll work down even the most disgusting drinks as long as she gets that one glass. * I don't know how wacky this is, but next time you're in Dunkin Donuts (if there is one where you live), get the bacon, egg, and cheese breakfast sandwich ''on a raisin bagel''. I've gotten a few weird looks from the staff for ordering this, but you have to try to it. * This troper craved coffee after evacuating from Hurricane Rita. This troper hated the SMELL of coffee before this event, and still does now, but craved it the minute she left her home state to the minute she got back. The caffeine, maybe? * PMS gives me the cravings, too. Normally for protein-rich foods, oddly enough. I still get the chocolate cravings now and then, but during PMS, I ''have'' to have protein. This can mean anything from scrambled eggs through to ham + cheese toasties. ** You're probably trying to replace the protein you've lost. This troper generally craves steak and other high protein foods at that time of the month. * My mother knew a woman who ate soap when she was pregnant. Yes, soap. Specifically Irish Spring. She would get a bar of the stuff, shave off curls with a knife, and then eat them. * This troper had some pretty strange cravings as a kid. At 21 I'm baffled at how I could down all the brine left behind in a jar of pickles, eat ants, and swallow coins. But then again, I was suddenly struck with the urge to [[HilarityEnsues chomp a clove of garlic]] while preparing a meal... * This troper's mother is an inversion: quirky snacks all the time, which she lost the taste for while carrying. * This troper's mother craved rare steak while pregnant with the troper's brother, and he has no bizarre eldrich abnormalities. Also, the troper's equally normal friend once did have a raw meat craving and twelve years on her son still shows no signs of alien hybridization. * This troper knew a girl who craved chocolate-covered salmon when she was pregnant. She called it "chocosalmon." * This troper found that her sense of taste started disappearing about month 3, and she was ''desperate'' to taste ''something'' - anything! The only thing that seemed to come through was the sourness of onions

or vinegar or pickles (gherkins), so she had a craving for a while for peanut-butter-and-raw-onion sandwiches. It's probably due to hormones. * This troper's mother, while pregnant with her third child, craved eggrolls and coffee for the first half of her pregnancy, and then after that, it was everything covered in mayonnaise (weird, considering she doesn't usually like it). Which led to some pretty unusual conversations while watching TV: ---> '''Mom''': You know what sounds really good right now? ---> '''Troper''': What? ---> '''Mom''': Pickles and mayonnaise. ---> '''Troper''': On a sandwich? ---> '''Mom''': No, just by themselves. --->'''Troper, fearing a hormonal mood swing, says nothing.''' ---> '''(few moments of silence)''' ---> '''Mom''': Wait, you know what would be even better? ---> '''Troper (afraid to ask)''': What? ---> '''Mom''': A corndog and mayonnaise. Mmmm.... * This troper has heard of some women eating charcoal. Since charcoal naturally neutralizes poisons, it's probably an instinctual safeguard against the OTHER unusual foods that pregnant women may find themselves eating. * When this troper's mother was pregnant with him, she had a large craving for igneous rocks (Lava rocks, pretty much.) Due to this, her teeth were grated down to an unusual shape. The story still amuses this troper to this day. * My mother ate coal when she was pregnant with me. Actual coal, from the fireplace, and this wasn't just an overnight fad. (She points out she washed it first, and preferred the crunchy bits.) * [[Tropers/HappyDuck This troper]] craves tortillas at odd intervals. Not tacos or burritos or anything, just plain tortillas. Mmm, tortillas... * This troper had a very bad thing for tinned baked beans when she was pregnant. Dissapointingly, I couldn't eat shrimp, which I love. * Last summer this troper had a neverending craving for Apple Cinnamon [=NutriGrain=] bars. She literally went through two or three boxes a day, and felt restless and agitated when there were none left. Wacky because she never really liked apple cinnamon in the first place, and now that the summer/craving is over, she kinda hates them. :/ * This Troper was MistakenForPregnant when she came in to the room with a hot slice of pecan pie topped with vanilla ice cream, and some Claussen pickles on the side. It was a matter of what was in the house. Her sister had just made pecan pie (for which she is locally famous), and this Troper wanted to get as many of those pickles as possible before her brother found and devoured them all. ** This same Troper's same pecan-pie-baking sister, a lifelong hater of peanut butter, has begun eating plain peanut butter sandwiches during her second pregnancy. * Inverted with this troper's friend. An ExtremeOmnivore-ish person, she ate weird things all the time. It was only when she was pregnant that she ate normal things. * At one point, this Troper had a mad, mad craving for fried fair food of all varieties.

* When my dear friend was pregnant with her daughter (my god-child), she was utterly addicted to Lucky Charms cereal. Her husband was wise and stocked up. * When Mom was pregnant with my twin and me, she craved peanut-butter and charred bologna sandwiches. My twin won't touch either, but peanut butter is a staple in my cupboard. * When my mother was pregnant with me, she apparently had a wicked craving for xi muoi (preserved plums). With my little sister, it was [=McDonald's=] and pickles, and with my big sister, it was mangoes and chalk. * This troper was waiting in line at a Subway branch, which happened to be across the road from a hospital, when a frenzied-looking fellow burst in and demanded to know how many Smarties cookies $20 would get him. The girl at the register took one look at him and asked if his wife was in labour, which she apparently was. He left $30 worth, courtesy of the staff, and tore off back across the street. Made me smile, anyway. * Not so much ''Craving'' in my case. My "time" is often late. This leaves me unable to keep food down for up to, and some times BEYOND the end of it. The only thing I can keep down is ginger. Anything cooked in it, or even little dried, caramelized chunks. Worst part? Normally we buy this vegetable meat stuff that tastes AMAZING with ginger. The store is out of it. No word on new supplies. I am very, very doomed. Oh so doomed. * This male troper has odd craving rather frequently; hummus, asparagus, veggies in general, paper, gum, crystallised ginger, cayenne pepper, and chocolate. Strangely, if this troper eats non-dark chocolate when not craving it; he gets sick. * This troper's mother craved spicy foods, particularly extremely hot salsa, when she was pregnant with her. According to her, my aunt told her, "You need to stop eating so much spicy food. Your baby's gonna think she's Mexican, and when she comes out, she'll be so confused..." (Actually, I think what she said was, [[CrossesTheLineTwice "'Shoot, I'm a dang Mexican,'"]] but that's not the point. Just so you know, she's not a racist.) Interestingly, it did end up rubbing off on me, as I can't get enough of the stuff. ** And she also craved chili dogs from Sonic when she was pregnant with my little brother. Not too weird, except she absolutely ''had'' to have them ''immediately''! My father (I imagine that the poor man was pretty scared of her, with the hormonal imbalances and all) was glad to rush out and buy her said chili dogs, which she ate right there in the garage after waiting for him to come home... * This troper's mother was fairly normal during pregnancy, other than an even higher than normal fruit craving, but in general life, she's not a fan of salt at all. As children, both my sister and I would eat salt straight out of the shaker. ** I also get the fairly common chocolate craving near the beginning of my period (yay delicious magnesium!) and the day before it starts I'm ravenous for carbs. * Once while traveling with family, we stopped for snacks. I got one of those big pickles and a bottle of pink lemonade. My mom's response: "[[DeadpanSnarker I'm glad]] [[CrowningMomentOfFunny you're a boy]]."

I also get weird looks from people when I put garlic powder or garlic salt on french fries. ** First thing I'll be doing when I get back from HongKong is getting a box of [[http://www.bojangles.com/ Bojangle's]] chicken. They have chicken here, but I want that specific place so ''badly'' right now... * When my mum was pregnant with my brother she craved oranges and cola. When she was pregnant with me, she craved pickled gherkins so much that she'd eat a whole jar of them and then drink the remaining vinegar. * A non-pregnancy example: This troper has often-strange and rather specific cravings for foods. For instance, he really likes the breadsticks at this local pizza place. Nothing else. Just the breadsticks, and [[BigEater he can put away about three boxes by himself.]] He'll also sometimes put pepper and onion powder on grilled cheese sandwiches, as well as mixing jujubes and skittles with his popcorn at the movies. Perhaps his most eyebrow-raising concoction is a mixture of cornflakes, peanut butter, and maple syrup all smooshed together in a bowl. He calls it "The Sugar Rush" or the "Type-2 Diabetes with a side order of Heart Disease". * [[Tropers/{{Seanette}} I've]] never been pregnant, but share the [=PMS=]-fueled chocolate craving other female contributors have mentioned. I also find myself seriously craving protein when ill or seriously stressed, usually in the form of meat and/or cheese (good thing I'm an omnivore). * This troper's mother craved Arby's Roast Beef Sandwiches the entire time she was pregnant with me, so that's all she ended up eating. The doctor told her that it wouldn't be healthy to do that for her second pregnancy, so when she was expecting my little brother, she lived off of Whoppers. I hate Arby's roast beef, and my brother hates Whoppers. However, on the flipside, my brother loves Arby's and I could probably live off of Whoppers if they weren't so unhealthy. * Both of my pregnancies led to cravings both mundane and unusual. For example, eggs scrambled with sharp cheddar cheese, ranch dressing, bacon bits, and hot sauce (I normally loathe eggs), pickle brine, flour, kool-aid powder, and crab cakes. I also drank white grape juice mixed with 2% milk. ---Mmmm... I could go for some WackyCravings right now. With peanut butter mixed in. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WackyFratboyHijinx * In the words of [[{{Ares}} This Troper's]] coworker: "WSU [Washington State University]? You should apply, it's a fun college. I got my BS there. In drinking. GO COUGARRRRRRS!!!" * [[{{HellBlossom}} This troper's]] brother once had to pick up several palm trees as a pledge. At 3 in the morning. Things got a bit awkward when they were stopped by the police...

* Halloween was banned at University of Massachusetts Amherst while this troper's dad was attending. His response whenever it's brought up? "You throw one vending machine off the dorm's roof..." She's still not sure if this NoodleIncident really happened or not. ** [=UMass=] is infamous for its destructive riots following particularly exciting basketball games. Throwing a vending machine off of a roof wouldn't be out of place, and would probably be preferable to the auto and property damage that regularly occurs during sports riots. * I'm surprised this page isn't bigger to honest, anyway, my school, being Catholic, doesn't have fraternities, but I'm on EMS and can assure you that wacky hijinks still happen, I've had to clean up after a few. * Do [[DistaffCounterpart Wacky Sorority Hijinks]] count? See there [[Tropers/CallsignEcho I]] was, wearing an eyepatch made out of duct tape and a [[NiceHat pirate's hat]], paddling down "The Moat" (our school's enormous drainage ditch) on an inflatable alligator at about two in the morning on a Friday eve and singing a fraternity song that kind of sounded like a sea chanty (it had "Yo ho" in it, anyway). Then me first mate spotted a snapping turtle ahoy, and we fell in the water and couldn't see the turtle anymore, and it turns out the moat is covered with squishy yucky things on the bottom, and we decided to call an end to the hijinks right there. [[{{Aesop}} What I'm saying]] is, Speed Quarters with rum and Pabst Blue Ribbon [[AndThatsTerrible is bad, kids]]. * This Troper's University (Fredonia State University) has an annual celebration (FredFest) that lasts for two days, just before 'Dead Week' which is the week before finals, and you're supposed to study. Well, anyways. A fraternity on campus decided to host a party, and some drunkards from out-of-town decided it's be just awesome to [[TooDumbToLive make a moltov cocktail... indoors]]. When they lit it on fire, they got scared and threw the bottle at a sofa, the contents blew up (duh!), [[TotalPartyKill and hit two people.]] The first was a friend of mine (who filled me in on the story), he got his hands burned pretty badly, but he was lucky because... The second was a female visitor from out-of-town (Just there to party) she got the full brunt of the cocktail. Because she was wearing [[BarelyThereSwimwear tiny gym shorts, and a bikini;]] [[BodyHorror her body had 3rd degree burns everywhere.]] her entire back was covered in burns, her thighs, legs, chest, arms all had 2nd - 3rd degree burns. [[FlamingHair Her hair also caught on fire]] and became a mangled mess. * wacky indeed!

WackyHomeroom * This troper goes to a very strange high school with [[{{Loads and Loads of Characters}} various characters]], which means that tons of strange, funny, and unusual things happen. Some bizzare hijinks include people sitting on lawn chairs out in the exterior corridors (I live in Southern California, which is why my school has exterior corridors), "Senior Fanny Pack Day", where the graduating seniors wear fanny packs, somebody being followed by a campus security guard for

singing Justin Bieber, people giving out business cards that say "Are you single?" and have somebody's phone number on them, marshmellow fights during art class, getting Rick-Rolled during our televised announcements, paying a dollar to tape one of the basketball coaches to the wall, somebody dressing up as a gorilla when it's not Halloween, the fire alarm going off at least once a month (and most of the time, there is no fire or scheduled fire drill that would happen), and other crazy things. It's considered normal at my school to have excessive weirdness. * This troper happens to go to a rather...strange school. There are mostly elementary school age kids, and only eight students in her high school class, four of whom are actually in middle school. HilarityEnsues daily. ** Do you live in [[HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi Hinamizawa]]? * This troper's homeroom consists of the local FFA chapter and it's advisor. Hilarity is permanent. * This closest thing [[AmberByDreams This Troper]] currently has is her first hour, Choir. It consists of the teacher who is obviously gay (I believe he's 'married' and has two cats), and constantly proves that in HighSchool, there is no such thing as an AccidentalInnuendo. Then you have the students... Well, they're in choir all the time. Enough said. ** Same here. Choir is it's own special brand of crazy. ** And isn't it awesome? This troper's choir had a lot of really interesting characters, though they didn't really fit into any specific tropes, and we grew very tight-knit over the course of the year despite how different we all were. * My form tutor actually does the 'throw stuff at naughty students' bit and openly mocks some students. We're not allowed to leave any lessons early, but he always lets us go 40 minutes early, as long as we say we're from his arch enemy's class if we get caught. Students fighting and chasing each other are also regular occurrences. It certainly helps that he's only a couple of years older than most of us so he's pretty clued into music, films, etc. * This troper's former English class stayed together for ninth and tenth grade, and grew close through our wacky hijinx and plethora of inside jokes. It was partially due to having a young, sweet, idealistic teacher who gave us lots of fun, colorful projects, and partially due to having at least three "class clown" types. Not to mention all those games of Scattergories. If you want to make any of them laugh, just say [[NoodleIncident "remember that time we almost died?"]] * [[@/{{Melesmelda}} This troper]]'s senior-year Creative Writing class. We had a [[CanadaEh very Canadian]] teacher, [[ThoseTwoGuys a]] [[AttentionWhore multi-]][[TheSilentBob grade-]][[PluckyComicRelief leveled]], [[LovableLibby varied]] [[TheStoner class]] [[TheDitz full]] [[SingleMindedTwins of]] [[DeadpanSnarker character]], a host of in-jokes (including hair weave, tipping your waiters, our teacher's supposed drug-ridden driving habits, RapeIsTheNewDeadParents / SuicideAsComedy, a particular student's habit of sweetly complementing everything someone wrote, and farms of ginger babies), and at one point, a fanfic written about us (someone's assignment; it caricatured

the class perfectly). * My homeroom in my second year of high school definitely qualified. The [[ButtMonkey butt monkey]] was constantly getting stuffed and locked into the cupboard, the [[TheStoner stoner]] was in a perpetual state of hilarious rage, and the[[JerkJock jocks]] were constantly wrestling and breaking things. We were on the second level of a twostorey building, so me and my two mates always used to drop pens and rubbish at anyone walking underneath. We were such a group of troublemakers that the homeroom teacher had to quit she was so traumatised. That, and the school had to change their disciplinary system jus because we were so poorly behaved. What fun. * This troper's class was (and still is) filled with mixed types, ranging from [[TheLibby the Libby]] to [[TheDitz the ditz]] to whatever else there is. Add to that fact that practically everyone is a mix of DeadpanSnarker and ClassClown, every single day manages to contain some form of enjoyable chaos. In fact, our class was unanimously voted by the whole faculty as the Noisiest Class in the Whole School. Naturally, our class was very proud when they heard the news, and celebrated by putting Mentos in a Coke bottle, shaking it furiously and tossing it in the middle of the quad. * My year seven class was notorious for breaking into song and having no inside voice. We collectively managed to: repeatedly convince teachers that assignments were due the next week, distract our teachers from the fact that we had homework, orchestrate lockdowns/concerts/tournaments during class and convert the other half of the class to snarkery. * My high school had two options for eleventh-grade English, advanced and "normal" (read: "slacker"). I took the latter, and it was pretty colorful. The teacher was a recent college graduate who was only teaching because he had failed to get into law school and still thought "being an asshole" was the same as "being funny". Then there was the guy who was either constantly stoned or just naturally really spaced out, the girl with the constantly-changing hair color who knitted during class and rarely said anything, the girl who thought she was a vampire and liked to try to make her vocabulary sentences into [[YaoiFangirl slash fanfic]], the girl whose life goal was to [[HotForTeacher sleep with a teacher, any teacher]]... * This Troper is in the eighth grade, and her middle school (grades six through eight) is... a little on the odd side, mostly stemming from it being TINY (only one teacher per core subject- maths, English, science and social studies/history, making only four MAIN teachers a grade.) Most notably was my sixth grade science class (homeroom, for me,) which played host to most of *TheLibby clique; as well as being home to a few other very COLORFUL characters. This was the year I came in contact with the *HarryPotter-obsessed nerds (who I a a proud friend of since then,) the TWO kleptomaniacs (one of whom got away with stealing multiple cellphones and iPods, the other of whom was a compulsive liar and had ADHD as well,) the boys who thought Swine Flu was an STD, and OH GOD OUR TEACHER OH GOD. He was friendly and perky, and allowed people to get away with ANYTHING; including random eighth graders he had in the past walking in mid-class and tackling/hugging him/screaming and doing random shit (which, as an eighth grader now, I

do all the time.) He constantly whipped out his iPhone in class, was once in an antigravity airplane, and his girlfriend tricked him into marrying her (he wanted to anyway.) He once lit a brillo pad on fire in class; he saved our frog dissections for the day a bunch of parents brought their fifth graders in to tour the school before they went there. As for the class itself, they were never really an issue for him; we always did batshit crazy stuff, and he never cared. Until the day he cracked- snapped a clipboard in half, threw a math book and a recycling bin against a wall, and lost his voice from the screaming. To be fair; we were screaming and dropping Craisins out a window. He immediately resumed perkiness right after that... and, on on of the last days of school, we tricked him into wearing a big furry bear costume to school. All day. Sixth grade... was interesting. ** AND THERE'S MORE IN MY CURRENT GRADE! My homeroom/social studies class and teacher are interesting, fascinating people. We have the teacher's chosen butt monkeys, who are slackers who always crack yo momma jokes- the kid who stalks everybody and has blonde and black hair, and liv(ed) in a cemetery- my group of Harry Potter nerds/people who randomly start singing don't stop believing, the occasional Libby and the faux "gangsters". As for our teacher? He once did a class barefoot, cracks yo momma jokes right back at the butt monkeys, MERCILESSLY picks on them, pops up behind people, once referred to something as a "rape factory," dances in class, makes TOTALLY wrong jokes and innuendo, and stuffs his dreads up people's noses and in their ears. Mention the "Dread-nose thing" amongst us and get a mixed reaction of cracking up and disgust. * This Troper's form is boring, but her classes more than make up for it. Since her school's IB program has around 20 people in her year, everybody knows each other (most if not all of the guys had been at the school since year 7) and we're geekier than some of us would like to admit. [[HilarityEnsues Cue banter, chemistry jokes]] and a hell of a lot of MemeticMutation. And then there's our weekly CAS meetings, which the teacher has actually stopped coming to, where we hang around in the classroom doing homework that's supposed to be due in later that day, making fun of each other or playing volleyball with an inflatable globe. The insanity goes on outside class, too - the other day we were waiting to have our photo taken (for some reason, they were doing an IB group photo) outside the hall. So was a form in lower school. They were lined up quietly out of the way in height order, we were standing around talking in groups by the door, one guy complaining to me that I'd ruined his hair by throwing a snowball at him and someone else walking around with people standing on his feet to test his steel toe cap boots. We have to be the best sixth formers ever. * One of this troper's homerooms (we called a homeroom teacher a TA at the time) had a lava lamp and an Atari Flashback console. Another TA had a rule banning the wearing of Yankees gear. Justified as the Red Sox won the World Series that year. * This troper's middle school (k-8) was housed in the same building as a school for multiply disabled students, and a beauty school moved in to the haunted wing partway through my stay there. My homeroom teacher never smiled- sometimes he would laugh maniacally, but not often. He

was also the science teacher, and taught us biology mostly through Planet Earth episodes. He would sometimes put in Mythbusters episodes, and was inspired by them to have a mentos-and-coke unit. My language arts teacher mostly let us pick which books we wanted to read, occasionally with the stipulation that they had to have been banned. The social studies teacher rarely taught about America when he could construct a unit on a Southern Hemisphere country(usually one he has vacationed to)'s oppression by white colonialism (he might sound racist against whites at times, however, he is Caucasian) or the general evils of big business instead, and he believed that the Aztec prophecies had probably been about Cortes the whole time. All three homerooms had couches and comfortable chairs in small sections of the rooms, the fourth core subject, math, had a few dried sea creatures instead, as it had little room. Our school was a favorite place for crows, they used to roost in the trees in huge flocks in winter. In social studies we once built small houses, in science we built natural dams. Many of the students (and some of the teachers) were what would commonly be called "hippies", including one person who brought a guitar to school to play Beatles music. One student became temporarily famous for talking to a pizza slice. * This troper goes to a really, really small school. His class has only seven kids in it. He can say for certain, the kids are wacky. The AmbiguouslyAutistic TalkativeLoon, the JerkSue {{Tsundere}}, the goofy siblings (one of which is a [[BrattyTeenagerDaughter somewhat]] of [[RuleAbidingRebel a rebel]], the LivingProp, TheQuietOne, or the SenseiChan. The kids are always goofing around, the teacher is a more mature and level-headed AdultChild, and there's always something going on. The other two classes are interesting, but not as much.

WackyMarriageProposal * This troper knows at least one example of this being TruthInTelevision: She knew two teachers who were considering marriage. The woman said, "You can propose to me however you like, so long as you don't do it in front of either of our classes." No prizes for guessing how he chose to propose to her. (She said "yes" anyway.) * Another TruthInTelevision case: On the route the troper drove to work a big plywood sign appeared one day, with a proposal, complete with artwork of bride, groom, etc. The next day it had "YES" spray painted on it. ** In 2007, this troper encountered what he's sure is a subversion: he saw a billboard near a major highway spraypainted with a proposal, which, two weeks later, suddenly had "Yes!" spraypainted on it in a different color. He suspects, though, that it was in fact a hoax/stunt, because the billboard was for elaborate engagement rings available at a nearby jeweler's, and the "vandalized" advertisement was left up for literally months afterwards. *** Update: Same troper, same billboard, same jeweler, new ad -- and a new "Marry Me!" less convincingly "spraypainted" on it as of 20 February 2009. The ad and its addition hadn't been there less than two weeks earlier. For those interested, Route 9 southbound (located on the opposite side of the highway) between Marlboro and Manalapan in

New Jersey. * This troper was present at an anime con where a guy proposed to his girl in the middle of a cosplay skit. It [[{{squick}} didn't help matters]] that they were in their ''[[NeonGenesisEvangelion Evangelion]]'' outfits (he was dressed like Gendo and she was dressed as Rei). But it was sweet. ** There was one similar done by two Final Fantasy XII characters, where he proposed after they received a "setup" award.. The video of it happening is on [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrwhfFwSgw YouTube]]. ** Another similar one bewteen [[{{Pokemon}} Lucario]] and [[SuperMarioBros Yoshi]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1tAV5NoP20 here]]. ** A Third for sci-fi con proposals. Norwescon 24...Saturday night dance. My brother in law ''tried'' to make it more dignified by asking the DJ to play "Ordinary World" by DuranDuran (a slow ballad by my sister's favorite band), and stating he wanted it to be a surprise. DJ Clueless rolled his eyes at the Duran request and said "I'm playing some Duran Duran so the guy on the floor can do what he's gonna do" and started playing "Rio." (which is anything but a slow ballad!) Sis shrugged it off and started dancing to her favorite band when during the second or third chorus, he tapped her on the shoulder and pulled the ring out of his cloak. First and last time anyone got my sis to quit dancing during a Duran song...(they're celebrating Anniversary #10 this Norwescon). * During this Troper's first year at camp, his cousin was the head counselor. For Color War breakout (for which it is a tradition to pull a wacky prank on the campers) there was a talent show. And the end of it, her assistant got up in front of the entire camp and sang a love song. And then he proposed to her. And she said yes. Then they ran out... and there was a waiting limo. Yes. And then... well 15 minutes later they got on the PA and told everyone it was Color War. The punchline is that 3 years later they really did get married. They remain so to this day, and have three beautiful children. * This troper remembers seeing someone propose on a Livejournal post secret community. The comments to the entry [[YourMileageMayVary varied]] from {{Squick}} to mockery to people who actually thought that it was kind of sweet. * [[PentiumMMX2 This troper]] made use of this very trope in one of the later installments in the story series he's writing. Toward the end of the story, the main character proposes to his sort-of girlfriend by simply saying "After all this is done, want to get married?" (That being in the usual style of that character) * A friend of mine told me a story about this failing - he was at a Knick's game, and the scoreboard flashed "$GIRLSNAME Will You Marry Me?", and then the camera zoomed on the girl. She got up, looked like she was going to cry, and ran out. * My brother proposed to his girlfriend by spelling out "Heather will you marry me?" in AnimalCrossing with flowers. * This troper remembers a few years back, that someone had spray painted "_____ Will you marry me?" across a building visible from a train. It was eventually painted over, but it stayed there for a long

time. * This Troper's Uncle got Magic Johnson (his girlfriend's favorite basketball player) to autograph a basketball "(Girlfriend's name), will you marry(Uncle)? Magic Johnson." The Uncle then wrapped the ball, still in the box, and put it under the Christmas tree. Somewhere down the line, the Girlfriend caught wind of a possible marriage proposal and was expecting a ring. Come present time, she opened up the gift to see a brand new basketball, still in the box, backwards, so she didn't see the question. After a little moment of thinking my Uncle was a Jerk, she turned the ball around to see the message. They are still married and the Ball is a prominent fixture in their house during the holiday season. * [[Tropers/CalamityJane This Troper]] is part of a [[TransformersAnimated TFA]] Roleplay community on Formspring.me, and she plays the character of [[TheStoner Beachcomer]]. He proposed to [[{{Dandere}} Glyph]] by banging on her door very loudly and being straightforward about it. She said yes. * When a friend of [[Tropers/IronicMouse this troper]] proposed to his girlfriend, he took her to castle where they dressed in period clothes. Eventually, he took her off alone and began to read to her from the LordOfTheRings, the scene where Faramir is professing his love for Eowyn. (Both of them are huge [=LoTR=] fans.) At the end, he got down on one knee and asked, "Will you be my shield-maiden?" (if I recall, that's what Faramir asked Eowyn). A few months later, they had a LordOfTheRings themed wedding, and they are still married after eight years, with three adorable children and another on the way. ** Tell your friend that he's my hero. * I once witnessed a proposal at a Talent show where the guy was doing a magic show. His last part was doing mind-reading, which he brought up his girlfriend to the stage. Instead of the usual mind-reading, he told us that he would mentally ask his girlfriend the question and he showed her something that we couldn't see. Her answer was yes. He then turned around and we saw that he was holding a ring. * Not sure if it's my place, but I know of one. Rolith, not the DragonFable NPC but the IRL person, proposed in-game. In meme. The OLD SPICE COMMERCIAL MEME! *You know "I'm on a HORSE"* Alac answered him with a quest. She said yes. The Togs sleep on his side of the bed. * The wife of the leader of old College Christian Group I was a part of told me about how her husband proposed to her when she was still in college. He had her buddies blindfold and kidnap her and drive her to this remote beach where he was waiting with a ring in hand. ---{{Trope-tan}}, [[WackyMarriageProposal will you marry me?]] ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WakingNonSequitur * I ''never'' '''ever''' ''[[AC:EVER]]'' use ANY foul language of any kind, so I am wondering what in the world I could have dreamed that made me wake up shouting the F-bomb

** The same troper as above once woke up from a dream and said:"And that's why zombies and children dont mix!", all I can remember about the dream was that it involved: [[NoodleImplements a video store, a see-saw, and a statue of the hulk.]] * I've done this a few times, but can't remember what I've said. * This Troper once fell asleep in a Humanities class, during the question "What do you think when you hear the term 'medieval'? Luckily, my professor was a great sport, and she simply woke me up. I was up like a jolt the moment she touched my shoulder, though, and the first words out of my mouth were "UmbertoEco". Through some sane form of InsaneTrollLogic, however, my answer worked, because I explained that Umberto Eco wrote TheNameOfTheRose, which had to do with monks during the Medieval times. The professor simply put 'monasteries' as my answer. * I woke up yelling "Shut the fuck up, Kyle!" once. I have no idea who this "Kyle" is. * [[@/DeathToSquishies This troper]] visited the dentist for the first time in ''years'' several months ago to get his teeth cleaned, and was knocked out via IV. After he woke up from the procedure, his mother told him that halfway through, she and the dentists heard him start mumbling something, and took the cleaning tools away from his mouth so they could hear what he was trying to say, since they assumed he was saying something about waking up and starting to feel the needles or some such. According to his mother, he was mumbling "...[[NintendoDS DS]]... {{Pokemon}}..." * Edgy woke up once saying "Banana". ----->[[WakingNonSequitur Zzz... to hell with you and your Twinkies...]]

WalkAndTalk DragonHawk (16 Feb 2009): From the main WalkAndTalk page: --> ''TheWestWing'' is not above [[LampshadeHanging hanging a lampshade]] on its use of the device, though: after a particularly long WalkAndTalk, Toby and Sam once realize that neither of them had any idea where they had been going, and each thought he was following the other. "Let's not tell anyone about this," Toby concludes. This has happened to me on multiple occasions. Once, in college, me and a classmate were almost to the campus limits before I finally stopped and asked where the hell we were going. * This troper's first date was to "wherever we end up". After three hours, we decided we'd reached our final destination, and had no idea how to get back to where we started. * [[PurplePantherGirl This troper]] and her friends walk around the school yard talking, with no idea where they are going. ** This troper also: "Where I we going?" "Beat's me, I was following you" was a daily addition to our conversations. * This troper does this a lot. It's actually not by choice most of the time. People just feel a random urge to talk to me while I'm trying to walk to class. I usually try to cut the conversation short by walking faster and hoping they don't follow me. * I always do this, due to the fact that sometimes it's the only way

to talk to people. Once, I went to the wrong class. In the wrong section of the campus. * ''TheWestWing'' bit above happened to [[Tropers/ClatoLawa this troper]] as well. I was chatting with a friend walking out of a class and we ended up next to the bus stop, at which point we both realised we'd both thought we were following the other. The parallel to TheWestWing did not go unnoticed. * [[@/OhNoes I had]] a rather long walk-and-talk that lasted four hours. I was walking around campus at a competition with a girl that just happened to be an ex-girlfriend. Cue several rather awkward SheIsNotMyGirlfriend moments. We made at least four circuits around the entire school and made it around the football field at ''least'' thrice. We did stop several times to screw around, though ([[AccidentalInnuendo NOT LIKE THAT]]). Lacrosse balls ''hurt'' when chucked at you! ** Also, when traversing the hallways with my best friend, we always have conversations and always think we're following the other to his destination. Said conversations are inevitably interrupted with "Wait, where the ''hell'' are you going?" "I WAS FOLLOWING YOU" "No, ''I'' was following ''YOU!''" ---Go back to WalkAndTalk with me...wait, where were we going, anyway? ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WalkDontSwim * @/{{Fighteer}}: In a fantasy LARP session many years ago, I was playing a golem, and my character got dropped over the ocean, at which point I proceeded to walk back along the bottom. It won me the comedy award for the evening. * This troper did so once while swimming. The swimming teacher tried to teach me how to help someone when they are drowning and flailing with lots of 'But what if...!' to show me I had no idea. SO I just stood up, as I am 2 meter in height while the water was merely 1.60 meters deep, grabbed the 'Drowning' person and walked out. ---Walk, don't swim back to WalkDontSwim. ----

WalkingDisasterArea Admit it, you know someone who does this, even on a small scale. * Technology doesn't like me. I've had numerous cases where computers stop working for no reason, batteries which should last years kaput within months, and in one case, a TV caught on fire. ** Are you me? * This troper was dubbed a walking disaster area while in school, due to clumsiness and a habit of not paying attention to where he was going.

WalkingTechbane * [[Tropers.HaruAxeman This troper]] has dubbed himself the [[WhateleyUniverse Anti-devisor.]] He once uploaded a virus into all of his elementary school (Yes, I'm the same guy from the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/NoodleIncident Noodle Incident]] page that said he killed off most school computers.) has accidentally uploaded malware into computers... oh, almost every time he touches one, finds a new disturbing glitch in Super Smash Bros. Brawl every time he plays, and seemingly broke the laws of physics when doing a lab in chemistry. * [[Tropers.ReikoKazama This troper]] has concluded that she is a walking new-game-bane. No sooner do I praise Pokemon [=SoulSilver=] than I get stuck in Azalea Town, unable to proceed past Bugsy and his [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard cheating bitch of a level 17 Scyther.]] (And I say "bitch" because the Scyther is female. [I would grind, but the only Pokemon I can find are in the Ilex Forest, and even then they're only low-level Pokemon that give out very little EXP.]) And no sooner do I praise SonicColors than I get stuck in pretty much the first part of Starlight Carnival Act 2, because apparently I need to jump up somewhere and I CAN'T. * [[{{xyzzy}} This troper]] has no trouble with software, often being used as a kind of common sense tech support, and her [[FooFu Googlefu]] is second-to-none. But when it comes to hardware? She's had everything happen from a Starcraft disc ''shattering inside the disc drive'' to quite sensically transferring the files off a thumb drive that was literally falling to pieces onto a laptop that died not two weeks later - and having a newer thumb drive fail abruptly for no reason shortly thereafter (though she did eventually manage to get her files off by jiggling the thing just so - the laptop-backup'd ones were still LostForever). Note, however, that the Starcraft shardfilled computer suffered no ill effects other than losing an RW drive, at least until the cooling fan blew out. That got fixed eventually and despite her Googling up the fix to the Windows Update that kills screws up your Internet, it eventually succumbed to an endless reboot cycle. Probably fixable, but by then a new computer was deemed the simplest solution. Not to mention the laptop lost to housecat + stupidly placed tea glass (despite the troper's attentive supervision from a mere three feet away)... unlike the last ''two'' hand-me-down laptops she's killed, that one at least started up again afterward but with the screen no longer working, no point trying to get her files off. The screen thing was probably only due to the water exacerbating the effects of the United States Postal Service deciding that the best way to deliver a laptop-sized package was not via a more typical door delivery, but by somehow managing to cram/stuff it into a mailbox in the wee hours of a Colorado morning in ''February''. The day after losing this laptop, the troper's mother-in-law also lost her laptop to a liquid spill - and a few months later and half a country away, the friend who'd mailed her her old laptop in the first place lost the laptop that had been bought to replace it by spilling coffee on it. Note, however, that both were able to get their files off

before their laptops bit it completely. And let's not get into the individual issues of these slightly-used laptops - one was prone to overheats (and had a jumble of random crap programs from her motherin-law that took forever to delete), the tea-killed one occasionally would not come back from sleep mode (a red flag in itself), though really the only complaint the previous owner had had about it was a lack of RAM. Naturally, none of the RAM from the previous laptops fit in this one. Then there was the time this troper got to use her sister-in-law's computer for a year while she was out of the country and once she came back, naturally I burnt all my acquired files to a few discs. (Finally, a switch to first person!) Had I paid closer attention, I might have noticed only half of my music got burned... and of course, the final, most hastily-done disc, containing much miscellany, was the one I did not double-check before deleting my files off her computer and therefore the disc that corrupted and failed to write any data at all. Since then, my sister-in-law's computer has failed to run at any speed above molasses, despite a reinstall of Windows. And that has been the last four years of my life, more or less. At least I have an external hard drive now - I wanted two, but this was deemed needlessly paranoid. Four (or five) computers in as many years? We'll see. Meanwhile, the computer my mother gave me in high school still works just fine, tucked away in my dad's house somewhere - Windows ME and all. ** Humorous example from this very morning, though: Troper's husband was showing off some video game emulation - only for the program to fail to read the rom properly. After he fiddles with a few things, retries a few times, troper wanders out of room in boredom - only for a cry of triumph to ensue just as I shut the door behind me. I return - but now the program won't read his save states for some reason! As he puzzles this out, I attempt to leave again... no prizes for guessing when the save states kicked in. Said husband also has a knack for being a WalkingTechfix - if you ask him to take a look at a problem on your computer, it will vanish almost before he's in the room (much to the irritation of everyone else in his family). ** Actually, Blizzard discs are quite notorious for shattering in the drive. I myself have had a Warcraft III disc crack badly while being used, and my copy of Diablo II cracked in half. I also had a game by a different company detonate in the drive with enough force to spew shrapnel out of the *closed* drive shelf. Note, these were three different [=CDs=] in three different drives. I've had some fairly lousy luck, but oddly enough, in all other ways, I seem to be an inversion, as my sisters laptop only ''starts'' working when I'm around... * This troper knows of one girl who is a personification of this trope. Interesting in that she has familiarity with computers. Can cause wireless routers to short out from across the house or break iTunes or cause IM programs to curl up and die. * This editor has a good friend who seems to break computers in a local radius. She's actually been banned from friends' computer rooms. * This Troper may do okay with most larger electronics, but the little ones.... He has managed to fry two tamagotchi, and cannot wear a digital watch without making it go ''funny''. This, interestingly, is

hereditary - his mother is the exact same way. Ironically, they're also avid computer users. (Said computers are... usually unaffected. usually.) * This troper's brother is the living embodiment of this trope. To date: Two watches destroyed by battery acid, 4 years after they should have died; 2 stereos; 2 CD players; his old computer * This troper, despite being fairly tech-savvy, is pretty sure he's been cursed with this trope. He has never had a single electronic device that something didn't go wrong with. ** This one, too, in a way. For instance, his Playstation 3 refuses to connect to his wireless LAN and his PC runs on Vista, which [[AcceptableTargets should be enough explanation]]. * in a Real Life Example, this Troper is on her 3rd laptop in 3 years and even it is currently needing a motherboard replaced, her friend found the explanation [[http://www.collectedcurios.com/SA_0435_small.jpg here]]. ** THIS troper is the same, only with other people's computers. I SWEAR that even though I got into the bios, that all I did was hit escape and exit. I didn't TOUCH any of the settings, even I know better. ** That explanation is inverted by this troper. She's an artist. She also builds all of her own computers and is the go-to tech support person for her family, both because of her knowledge and for the fact that misbehaving electronic devices tend to behave in her presence. She suspects that the fact that she can trigger motion sensors while she's ''five feet out of their range'' might possibly have something to do with this. *** Another troper is married to someone with the above troper's talent for curing misbehavior in electronic devices without actually doing any repairs. She's seen him straighten out misbehaving computers by looking at the screen to see what's going on. ** Also inverted for [[DarkInsanity13 this troper]]. Although she isn't so much an artist anymore, she has a decent knowledge of computers and electronics. Likely why she always ends up being the tecchie in most of her classes (as well as absolute laziness/unwillingness to help from any other actual tecchies). She attributes it to the Techfix gene her father has, who likely has to put up with a lot of Techbanes in his line of work (computer repairman). ** CURSE YOU, ACCURSED TROPER. What has been seen - *beep fizzle sclurp* * This troper's classmate in the CCNA class makes computers DIE by his touch. He touched the troper's computer and it went completely berserk. ** You probably shouldn't have shuffled across the floor in fuzzy bunny slippers. * Inverted for this Troper's sister; she seems to have a magical iPodhealing touch. ** Inverted for [[GwenStacyWannabe me]] too. I managed to get the car out of second gear in two seconds - my mom had been fussing with it for ten minutes. * This troper, being a Warhammer40000 player, tends to say "I can

''hear'' the Machine Spirit laughing/mocking me" fairly often, since computer systems have a tendency to disobey him. * Narrower example: Every time this troper attempts to use it, the sewing machine breaks. In the same way, even. And I'm sure that I'm not just doing it wrong or something. ** This troper advises checking the bobbin to make sure it's not in backwards. ** This troper has the same problem, only that they always break in Interesting New Ways. Sometimes even without direct interaction. * Inverted for this troper: I'm called when a techbane has broken something. My presence usually fixes things. If not, pressing a random button has a good chance. Electric equipment works for me ''years'' past the time where it should have failed a long time ago (this is a good thing, because most of it is expensive, and I'm a bum). All that said, I have no clue how to ''physically'' fix broken equipment... ** Ditto. It's gotten so ridiculous that this troper has actually been called the "Jesus of Machines." Fun title to use as a pickup line. ** Same with this troper. I make a living doing on-site Tech Support, but I have very little actual knowledge. Most of the time, computers start working as soon as I enter the room. Failing that, a swift kick with a consecrated wrench... ** Same here, hell this post is coming from a pc a good three years past its expected life span. Unfortunately the rest of the family are techbane in the traditional sense, the power button on our television used to fail to turn it on randomly for everyone but this troper. ** Same here, too. This one like computers, but he really know very little about them. Mainly due to [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann willpower]] and possible divine intervention, his rig has lasted six or seven years with minimal problems. This troper doesn't know why. Unfortunately, I don't really have quite as good a power as the above tropers - it seems to only apply to this specific computer. ** Happened to me many times. The most recent example was at the hospital (for someone else). The nurse was trying to fill out the release forms on a laptop, and it kept erroring out. After the 3rd time, I reached out (I was sitting next to it) and stroked one finger along the side of the screen. It then worked perfectly. This is ''not'' unusual. * This CS [=MSc=] troper sometimes feels like a techbane. Although he does make software do what he wants, any OS he touches is slowly.. twisted.. into an unholy abomination and bane of all that is sane. Also, any electronics he touches die before their time. Just like the software, come to think of it. While he's good at what he does, certain others have made the comment that he works by vampirically sucking computrons out of whatever he touches to build his software, and there is inevitably spillage. * While this troper seems to have USB fingers (most [=PCs=] he works with operate happily for almost well beyond their natural runtimes, AND I have installed Windows 98SE without problems before), he can static out FM radios by standing a certain distance from them, AND has shorted out street lamps while walking past them before. My mother is also most incompetent with our TV remotes. * [[{{Dangermike}} This Troper]] is hated by machines both simple and

complex-- the computer is ''usually'' okay, as long as I don't do anything but goof around, but for any serious use it's better I not be in the room. And mechanical devices fare far worse, motor vehicles in particular. Fortunately I live not far from some relatives who are WalkingTechfix. My mother carries the fully dominant Techbane gene, having destroyed more technology in her day than I've even inconvenienced. My father also has the Techfix gene, and luckily so, as he's a former nuclear submarine engineer, a profession with a high degree of natural selection against Techbanes. * This troper's mother used to associate with an older gentleman (until he passed on, sadly) who felt this about himself; oftentimes he would invite her out to lunch as the pretext for asking her to take a look at his laptop. * [[PandaKnight This Troper]] can shut off his girlfriend's wireless connection with his presence... at will. ** This Troper is impressed and ever so slightly envious. * Works both ways with this troper. She seems to have the ability to make a computer work just by looking at it, but she measures her age in motherboards she's fried. * In high school, microscope globes would blow if they were turned on near this troper. If she stood on the other side of the room, no problem. Similarly, in university, this troper and her partner ALWAYS end up with the hotplate/voltmeter/etc that doesn't work. No matter which counter we pick to work at. Even if we don't touch it at all and let the demonstrator turn it on for us. * I have had the computer suddenly shut off on me. Even using a cooling pad, nice computer, playing Minesweeper. After that that computer (which I now call the compooper) never works. Though strangely, it's just [=PCs=] and Macs. (mostly macs) I once fixed a N64 by kicking it against a wall! * [[{{Zelnor}} This Troper]] swears he has Murphy's Hands, and amongst their powers it to instantly corrupt or outrightly destroy any electronics device he touches. His latest computer mysteriously fried its own motherboard. Not to mention the [=MP3=]-player, where he managed to get the touch-sensitive buttons somehow stuck. It's sad. ;_; * [[@/{{Bisected8}} This troper]] seems to invert this trope. Computers which are broken seem to start working again. He recently managed to save his data when he dieing hard-drive began allowing his computer to boot from it again (thus it was backed up on a USB drive, then transfered to a new HDD. All three hardrives are now connected to the computer and mysteriously working perfectly, although the broken one is still on its last legs... * [[MurkyMuse This troper]] is also a techbane. Sure I can use internet and some other things, but over all technology hates me. My friends have a strict rule of me not touching their laptops. However, my techbaneness is most prevailent in soda machines of all things; they have a tendency of eating my money (mutiple times) but worked just fine for the person before and after me. It got to the point that I have to get a friend to get the drink. * [[{{Cameoflage}} This troper]] doesn't have it to the point of it actually being able to prevent her from using technology - the

problems are usually either temporary/fixable or merely somewhat inconvenient - but if a piece of electronic equipment's going to inexplicably fail, odds are good that it'll be while she's using it. ** First of all, her iPod's broken ''twice'' while on vacation, and ''only'' while on vacation. Once it was just in need of a reset (possibly brought on by having its battery drained a lot), but the other time its iPod software somehow managed to get corrupted while she had it on as she slept. ** Her digital camera recently died, first displaying a sort of purple static and then just blackness on its little viewscreen, although the menu still worked fine; she used it a lot before it was technically given to her, and during that time it started making a sort of whirring sound when the lens slid out, when it had previously been much quieter. ** Her original, desktop computer has never actually been rendered inoperable, but it's become a lot slower than its specs would seem to predict, even though it ran fine when she first got it. It also makes alarming sounds when it starts up and has a much louder whir (and more asymmetrical -- it's more of a "''whee''oo", if you'll excuse my poor attempt to transliterate it, than a constant hum) than it used to. *** Have you been defragging its HDD, virus-scanning it, cleaning up unnecessary files, etc regularly? That tends to be what slows computers down as they get older. **** Yeah, I give it semifrequent defrags (and I recently bought a completely new HDD), and I have a virus scanner (the AVG suite), although the only thing it's ever turned up is a handful of tracking cookies even as my computer moves at the speed of a stoned slug, so I'm not convinced that it works properly. ** The biggest casualty of her techbane-itude was her first laptop, HAL; when it was ''working'' it ran fine, but in the ten months she had it, it first displayed a weird problem where the monitor would go sort of staticky and then turn black, eventually rendering it impossible to use except in one case where it ran passably well for about half an hour after being left off for several days. It was sent away to some laptop-repair guys, who diagnosed it as having a broken motherboard; when this was fixed, HAL was back to normal. However, a couple months later, the troper came back from a vacation to find that [[CompanionCube his]] battery life had been reduced to about two minutes, rather than the twoish hours she'd been able to coax out of it before. And then, when the battery had been rendered useless except as a sort of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply UPS]] that lasted long enough to get the power cord plugged back in, the power supply itself failed, killing HAL for good (or at least putting him into SuspendedAnimation) because a replacement was unlikely to be available. ** Oh, and our sewing machine has immediately broken the last two times I tried to use it. That didn't happen back when I was a kid and I used it to make (crappy) clothes for my dolls, which is particularly strange. * This troper magnetically attracts things going wrong with his laptop - and, to a lesser extent, anything else computer-related.

** It's a Vista; he hasn't installed XP from the backup discs, because he enjoys bitching about Vista too much. ** The Vista condition has brought with it a vast number of games that simply Do Not Work on Vista; {{Oddworld}}: Abe's Exoddus, KnightsOfTheOldRepublic II: ElectricBoogaloo without a patch, the NeverwinterNights expansions... ** Many of the games that ''do'' work on Vista go horribly wrong; after patching, KnightsOfTheOldRepublic II would regularly develop bands of brightly coloured static, StarCraft periodically enters a state of complete colour chaos, and DwarfFortress didn't work until he noticed that there were a second set of numbers that could be accessed with the Function key (although this is more a result of [[IdiotBall personal stupidity]]). ** Upon discovering that he'd wasted money on a wireless adaptor because one came pre-installed, attempting to access the landlord's broadband account required a cable to the main modem...which was in said landlord's room, and said landlord simply wasn't comfortable with this. ** When the cable requirement spontaneously stopped being a requirement, things went fine for a while...until for no good reason network scanning blew up. Can't even use a LAN cable, and logging in takes ten minutes to load if it's been properly shut down (necessitating near-permanent hibernation); and it won't say what happened, because the [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment System Event Notification Service service]] has taken the hit - rather like [[HitchHikersGuideToTheGalaxy a meteor knocking out the meteor-damagedetection system]]. Now that this has happened, the volume indicator (of all things) periodically goes 'fuzzy'. ** Finally, other people's electronics are endangered by his close presence; printers in his family's house regularly shut down, stop working, or begin overheating after producing one page, and a friend's [[TheAllegedCar alleged computer]] managed to burn out its motherboard while he was nearby. He was half-tempted to have a friend put this into TvTropes, so he doesn't risk sending another machine straight to Hell on the error express. ** Oh, ItGotWorse - now it can't run ''DawnOfWar'' in full screen, the touch pad has stopped working, and thanks to carelessness, the slot at the back has broken off. This isn't static charges, and only one problem is actual carelessness - most of it's just ''the machine spirits don't like me''. *** Update: the touch pad now works properly, but it's started overheating to a significant degree while trying to rename pictures. ''It's winter in Australia''. * Some people do have a natural static or magnetic charge; this troper's mother is a scientist who can't use certain pieces of equipment because they detect her, fudging the results. * This troper is sure he's one of these; the most recent (and hilariously bad) example would be the fate of his laptop. First, the family dog took a fairly healthy leak on it while it was running, frying it entirely. Then, when he took it in to his local Best Buy to try and get the hard drive recovered, he found out later that the damage was so severe ''it caught their adapter on fire''. Let's just

say his reaction to this news was...understandable. * This troper has a friend, who either he, his mother, his dog, or his house is a tech bane. This troper refuses to take anything more than a datastick to his house, which he will not take back. In his house, the TV changes channels when the dog scratches himself, the volume gos crazy when certain pantry doors are opened and closed, the TV remote only works when it is pointed out the open window, his laptops fry themselves for no reason, his PC randomly turns on, even after buying a new one, and putting it in a different place on a different desk, and many other random things, including three X-box 360s (all of which I bought) stopping working as soon as they enter the house (no Red Ring of Death) (the first one was knocked over by me, so we thought that was the problem, the second I hooked up at my house to make sure it worked before taking it over, and well, it works only with HD now, and with strange colors, and the final one just stopped working the moment it passed the threshold of his house. Experimenting with where exactly they stopped working would have cost a fourth one, and this troper really did not want to pay for that. ** On the other hand, this troper himself is an inverse of the Techbane, able to get computers to work without any professional knowledge. As a rule of thumb, if it uses electronics, and has a screen, I can use it, and I can get it working again, as long as the hardware is intact. I also have one other little talent, namely I can feel electronics. I can walk into a house and tell how many currently running monitors and [=TVs=] there are, along with a few other electronics. This has come at a great price though. A friend turned on a huge system, and it gave me such a bad headache, that I was floored with a bloody nose. * [[PurplePantherGirl This troper]] seems to be able to break Cyber Optic mice by simply touching them. * Either [[{{Nerrin}} this troper]]'s hometown has a large number of ''extremely'' faulty street lights and said troper just has amazing timing, or he's a minor techbane. Street lights ''will'' go off with regularity right as he's walking by, or when he merely fixes his gaze upon them. However, most other technology in his life has far ''fewer'' problems than they've any right having (his computer, for example, lasting 7 years without significant problems when it's a cheap model meant to be replaced in 2 years, at the most). The daughter of a friend has similar issues with street lights, by the by. * [[{{sgrunt}} This troper]] [[InvertedTrope inverts this trope]] in that he seems to possess the power to cause computers to start working by sitting and staring at them for a bit. * Any time I try to use something other than a word processor or the internet, the technology gods frown upon me, and I receive their mighty wrath in the form of an unholy error message. * This troper's dad was an Electrical Engineering major at Purdue in the 70s. His senior year, some major corporation gave the university a "computer-aided design workstation", except that it had sat at that corporation for years, never assembled, with people periodically pulling something out of it to make something else work, or dumping unrelated electronics boards into it. Thus, by the time dad was told to "get it working" as his senior project, it was basically just a

huge collection of largely unrelated electronics. He still somehow managed to get various aspects of it, and eventually the entire system, to work... for a little while at a time. It became quite entertaining for the others using the same lab, that every time he'd get something working, he'd call Prof. Mal (his prof for the project) down to check it out, and it blinked out just as Mal arrived. ''Every single time!'' This culminated in him finally getting it all working, and neither announced nor called (so no one in the room knew he was coming, making the ad-hoc test double-blind), Mal dropped in for a visit. He opens the door just as dad stands up and shouts "Its been working for 15 minutes!!!". Mal did a heel-turn, and left without a word. Dad got an A on the project, based solely on eye-witness testimony, without the prof giving the grade ever once seeing it run, and the labmates nicknamed the contraption "the Professor Mal Detector". * [[DesertDragon This troper's]] father, all the way. He can't so much as press a computer's "on" button without frying the motherboard, and that's only a ''slight'' exaggeration. It's not like he doesn't have help at hand, what with his wife being a programmer and his youngest son (yours truly) a technician. He's just one of those people most comfortable with a Windows 95 and a VCR. * This troper is fine with technology, but can't wear watches. Or pedometers, or anything that requires a battery. They last about a day before they just stop. * This troper does this to software. Wireless drivers fail to work, media players cause bluescreens, and an IM client once wiped his hard drive. Oddly enough, this just drives his hacker desire further. Software one writes oneself can't possibly mutate in that way, right? * [[RosesSpindle This troper]] isn't personally afflicted, but her mage character in the {{Marvel}} RPG campaign she's in is, to the point where the team leader once gave her some top-secret, illegally obtained technology for a mission, figuring that accidentally wrecking it would actually do them a favor by getting rid of the incriminating evidence and wiping out any risk of the bad guys getting a hold of it. It's mostly played for laughs whenever it's brought up though, such as with the mysterious [[NoodleIncident Blackberry Incident]]. Fittingly enough, one of her favored strategies is to summon a horde of literal gremlins to tear apart whatever tech the enemy is using to give them the advantage. * [[TheTallOne This Tropette.]] I bricked three iPods in a month, broke the internet at my school ''twice,'' and caused four fuses to go out after walking by the fuse box. * This troper is an everything bane, but only to things he doesn't use frequently. As long as he interacts with an item once a week or so it's fine. Otherwise everything breaks. Including keyboards. In half. Without touching them. * A friend of this troper's has this problem too, despite not only being competent with computers, but actually a network tech. Computers just plain act ''peculiar'' around her, crashing, running mysteriously slowly, experiencing issues that nobody else sees, etc. For whatever reason, while she was pregnant her "bogon field", for want of a better word, vanished. It came back again full-force after delivery - except

when her daughter is around. ''Spooky.'' * This troper is known as "The Burrito Killer." Space evidently folds differently for around 3 feet in any direction. A folded object with low friction (like a burrito, or his knife sample kit) folded within that range behaves normally, as does one outside that range. But passing objects through the range causes them to fail catastrophically, with much spilling of guacamole and sharp objects. In addition, battery life is notoriously unstable. Dead phones will recharge, but a starting full charge will last only minutes at times. And explosions are more likely to occur with anything flammable. Including that pinnacle of flame technology: the wax candle. Seriously, he always lights candles at arms length for this reason. * [[{{Isabel}} This Troper]] cannot use a computer within five feet of any wireless device. The Internet will blink out. Not the wireless, the ''Internet''. Battery life is extremely unstable as well- she can start out with a fully charged laptop, phone, or iPod, and be down to a quarter the charge within minutes. Also, virus software has an annoying habit of not working properly when she's near it. * Printers enjoy failing on me when I ''really'' need that final paper. * This troper's grandma is like this. Her computer always has something wrong with it (To the point that my uncle and I have gotten sick of having to constantly fix it), and it never goes a day without getting some new virus. However, there was the benefit of her only knowing how to do the most basic stuff on it; allowing me to easily hide my games on there without her ever noticing. * This troper's brother and father are like this. Technology fails around them. However, since this troper can usually fix whatever cataclysm they've caused, they have nicknamed this troper "Technogod." * In the past month alone, this troper has been through three Droid phones, one laptop (with a second narrowly saved only by a FACTORY RESET), had the electronic ignition on his car fail, and made the network at his parents' house unreliable just by coming home for the holidays. I'm thinking of becoming Amish. * For [[FourtyTwoHz this troper]], lots of things: ** Windows installs are nearly self-destructing when he touches them. His Windows virtual machine (used only for MS Office and a few engineering programs he need for university) simply... decided to give up on its own. ** Many applications will fail whenever he is in charge of doing any sysadmin, or when he needs to get work done. With error messages that, when Googled, give no results at all. ** He can make a ''logic gate'' chip (which only works with low voltages and small loads) to overheat and fail, as he learned in a Digital Electronics class. * This Troper doesn't affect computers, but does affect cell phones and watches. Several of her watches have broken, including one which alternated between working and stopping within a few hours of its purchase. Additionally, she can't trust a cell phone's battery life (she's seen it go up without charging or go from four bars to zero in less than an hour), and has had assorted malfunctions with cell phone hardware requiring that she purchase four or five cell phones within

the course of two years. * This Troper's father is this trope. Her sister's computer, which is at most about three months old, hasn't worked properly since he shut it down. If you try to turn it on, the monitor turns white, then a bunch of pretty pastel colors in stripes. Furthermore, the computers never work right after he "fixes" them,and this troper had to completely redo her sister's computer after he set it up because it kept overheating and shutting down for no reason. Even after all this, he still doesn't understand why we panic ever time we see him near our electronics. This troper believes her sister may have inherited a milder form of his techbane, because her electronics seem to be the most susceptible to malfunction after Dad uses them. * A friend of mine has this problem. She's savvy enough about general use, but when it comes to actual troubleshooting she often runs into weird problems that nobody has ever seen before. ** In one place she worked, the copier worked for her, but after she used it, the thing wouldn't work for anyone else until after a technician came out to look at it. ''In the interim, it would still work for her!'' She was the only one that knew how to change out the toner cartridges (which was a fairly frequent occurrence)... ** She has the WEIRDEST computer problems. Nearly every time, some update or malware caused her PC to go haywire. And it's almost always something I've never seen before. I built her computer... (The last two times, it was a software update that caused it to go bonkers. Removing the offending program is usually what it took, and almost every time it was something like a firewall or antivirus program.) ** She can't wear a wristwatch. Brand new ones lasted less than a month before they stopped working, and secondhand timepieces that had worked for years died within a week. * (Same troper as above entry) A long time ago, Dad worked with someone that couldn't be trusted around any kind of magnetic storage media. Floppy disks and ''audio tapes'' would be unreadable after this guy had held them for more than a few minutes. Dude had computer problems all the time. The place went out of business long before optical storage media became common, so I have no idea if he had the same effect on CD-ROMs. * This Troper's brother while perfectly fine with his own computer was banished from his computer typing class, because computers broke around him. Once even catching fire. Or so he says * I used to think I was this, after I lost two laptops, their hard drives and two video cards in less than two years. But it turned out the problem was I was using second-hand stuff. Eventually my dad got me a new [=ThinkPad=], and it's lasted about as long as the two used ones combined despite more rough handling. * I'm usually pretty good with computers, but in Computer Science lab, I've got very used to [=TAs=] looking at me funny when I ask them for help with a computer or programming problem they've never heard of before, and then they go to look at it and can't figure it out. I don't break computers often, but when I do, they have the weirdest problems. * A more literal example, but to have a little fun, this troper put several signal jammers into his backpack and had them all on at once.

everything within twenty feet of him was a dead zone for [=WiFi=], cell phone, radio, walkies, and a few other things. Needless to say he doesn't do this sort of thing much. * This troper, despite being fairly skilled with computer software, is known as Electromagnetic Field Girl due to her tendency to fry electronics, inability to wear a watch for longer than a few days, occasionally causing vending machines to spit out free drinks by standing next to them, frequently turning screwdrivers into electromagnets just by holding them, and once possibly melting a car engine (although that might have been some outside influence, because that would be less weird.) * This troper's (very old) computer finally died, so she bought a new one--which crashed after two months. Less than TWO WEEKS after that, her mp3 player also crashed. I've gone through four mp3 players in five years, and each time one dies it's some weird problem the tech support people have never even heard of. My husband calls me a female [[TheDresdenFiles Harry Dresden]], minus the whole awesome part. * This troper's sister makes him (the MrFixit) cry on a regular basis. In the year since she got a laptop, for instance, she has managed to screw up all antivirus security, install things that he swears are offshoots of 42.zip, taken the "Deleted Win32.exe" joke SERIOUSLY (even bypassing all the safeguards!), somehow managed to delete all user login information (thereby making it impossible to even fire up the OS), and regularly breaks CD players by ''touching them.'' Watches break, printers fail, cell phones blast static, all when within ten feet of this cyber-TyphoidMary. * This troper can operate a computer to some level of not-breaking-itness (though he definitely has his moments, particularly when dealing with anything that isn't Photoshop, Word, a browser, or a game), but it probably isn't a coincidence that most of his laptops have died well before their time. The one he's typing this on has had to have its screen replaced and refitted, the mouse doesn't work anymore, one of the USB ports is on-and-off, and the cord has wires showing. In his defense, it's less bad operation, and more an on-the-move lifestyle coupled with a failure to grasp that computers are not invincible. * Going on three years now, [[{{Tropers/Kadorhal}} I]] have had to reinstall Windows every Christmas and deal with major spyware every April. ** [[UnspokenPlanGuarantee Mentioning this will probably screw me over]], but I think I managed to avert this trope - next April's spyware infection came five months early, and I was able to fix it ''without'' reinstalling Windows. [[LaserGuidedKarma It probably helps that I decided that this year the majority of the Christmas money I got won't be spent on myself.]] * This troper is pretty tech-savvy overall, but since the dot matrix Okidata he used with his Commodore 128 started going bad around 1990 has ''never'' had a printer that worked right until getting a MacBook with Snow Leopard on it. (Gutenprint ftw...) * This troper has an issue with power cables, primarily. All other parts of the computer work no more oddly than for anyone else, but the power cables physically break much more for me than for anyone else. Even when I'm incredibly gentle with them. My father thinks I must be

mistreating them, but I'm not... * This troper is this when he gets clumsy and collides with (the more fragile, expensive and hard to replace bits of) hardware, or when headphones are involved, going through several pairs a year. When upset, his mother can short circuit electronics simply by being in the room, though in the last few years this ability has waned. * This troper had a reputation for a "Murphonic field" back at high school. Over the course of the two years spent there before a transfer out of state, I used six computers. Three of them ceased to work. Two of them no longer could access the internet or any drives, internal or external. One of them was working when I left it . . . but was later reported to have shorted out. The next high school was no better. The first computer I used was permanently dead within a week (please note that this is five days after it was installed), and at a later date I managed to not only get a virus onto my USB flashdrive from the supposedly secure school network but to spread that virus to five other computers (not including my home computer) without realizing it, ''where the security system prevented them from being removed''. Eventually I purchased an antivirus for my home system, which worked up until the graphics card burnt out and caused a BSOD about four hours later, but the school computers had to be reinstalled from the OS up. * This troper is fairly good with computers - at least the software part of them. The hardware ''will'' break. My first PC had an unreliable hard drive that randomly "forgot" files (sometimes critical system files) and went through 3 CD drives and a failing CRT; also, a newly purchased 3D accelerator card ('97) was DOA and somehow the power supply blew up when I installed additional memory (in Soviet Belgium, you shock power supply dead). My second PC had a CD drive and separate CD writer, both of which died in the first month, followed by a broken power supply, another broken CD drive and then a broken video card fan. My third PC had a lingering hard drive problem caused by a bad cable connection; once fixed, it worked well for three years unless bumped and the cable wasn't reseated; then the (expensive) video card died. My fourth PC had the exact same cable connection problem and the DVD writer very quickly gave up the ghost, then the monitor rather ominously went dead for half an hour and a few days later I got a black screen and bios beep code while starting up, which miraculously fixed itself after a reset. Good thing I wised up the fourth time and set aside a few hundred euros for the inevitable repair costs. No, it's not dust or unstable power because other [=PCs=] used in the same house develop absolutely no problems. * This troper and her mother are on polar opposite sides of this trope. While her mother is incredibly tech-savvy (and apparently a miracle worker, having fixed a crashed airport computer by touching it), this Troper's track record with computers includes three fried hard drives, fifteen instances of spyware in three months and a tower that somehow caught fire while she was using it. The poles are switched when it comes to cars, however. Her mother has trashed several cars (her worst was when she decimated three minivans in one month), but this Troper managed to keep an Oldsmobile at its life's end (thanks to her mother) running by of all things patting the

dashboard. * This troper breaks every computer, iPod, dvd player, etc she touches, and doesn't know how to turn on a TV at times. Justified in that she is also somewhat of a technophobe who never paid any attention whatsoever in IT. * This troper's mother is an inversion of this. She merely needs to go to the ''floor'' (you know, of the building) where the computer is malfunctioning, and suddenly it works! * Both I and my mother (and HER mother) have an effect on anything with an antenna - technology itself seems to work fine, but put any of us within 6 feet of an antenna (or 20 feet if we're antsy), and instant interference - crackling radios, fuzzy TV (well, analogue anyway), and so on. So far, only my mother has been able to suppress the effect (so that she can get within two feet. >> not much improvement) of the antenna before it starts fritzing out. * My non-troper friend makes lightbulbs explode when she gets angry or otherwise upset. She's never blown up a computer yet, but personally I think that's because she tends to leave the house when she's in that kind of mood. * [[Tropers/HeroicJay This troper's]] mother sporadically causes this with machines - my father tells a story of where he set up a scanner, tested it, showed my mom how to use it, and with him in the room, she pressed the "Scan" button ''and did nothing else''... and the thing hasn't worked properly since. This troper [[LamarckWasRight somehow inherited the tech savvy of both parents]] - like my mother, machines sometimes fail for no obvious reason in my presence, but like my father, I know enough about computers to usually get them running again anyway. * Although this troper is decently computer-savvy, she tends to go through computers like loo paper, even ''without'' installing random crap on them - an acquaintance of hers is the same. This troper's dad is an inversion, having kept various machines running far beyond their time. * Someone in one of my university classes said that he has a tendency to cause electronics to stop working. As if to back it up, the professor's computer froze a few seconds later. * This troper definitely qualifies. Any piece of electronics she touches is bound to break, freeze, or spontaneously combust within a short period of time. Combine this with being a complete village idiot about anything involving computers, and you have a recipe for disaster... ---Barring a crash, go back to WalkingTechbane. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WalkOnWater * Once, during a boating trip, I discovered an old dock, hidden just

below the water's surface. By walking on the dock, it looked exactly like I was walking on water. The other boaters were freaked out. * This troper once held a conversation with her friends in which she discussed "gliding on the surface of the water" and "whooshing with nothing but the water under my feet". Of course, she also meant with the waterskis under her feet...but their faces were hilarious. ** Another troper has heard of barefoot water-skiing. She hasn't personally tried it, never having mastered normal water-skiing. ---Use your heavenly powers to walk back to the main article. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WallBanger * This troper, same as below, is part of a film project. This film project is an actual class project, where the syllabus was quite clear: The project is a collaborative project, wherein after all opinions are added, a common consensus among the group members is reached in order to make descisions. So, then, we have a guy in our group who has decided to "become director". He's making every single descision, even though they aren't good. For example, we had a 3 hour meeting on a free day, wherein we decided to go to one park to film several scenes, and actually borrow a warehouse from a group members' parent for the final scene (Yes, a 15 second shot, but well worth it. Its a bit of a twist ending, so being in the middle of an empty warehouse is kind of awesome for it). The next day, our class group page on Facebook has an added member, the "director's" girlfriend, and to make matters worse, he completely reversed several descisions simply because he didn't like them. No warehouse, and we got to film on an Elementary School park (probably during the week, kind of weird for a bunch of high school guys to be at during the day, and also FARTHER AWAY FROM OUR HIGH SCHOOL THAN THE PUBLIC PARK). To top things off, when I pointed out that everything in the group was by common consensus, and 4/5 people actually really WANTED the warehouse ending, even though it'd be an hour and a half for 15 seconds of footage, the girlfriend starts tearing me apart, basically saying, "You need to respect (her boyfriend's) opinion. He knows film, he's done it for five years, and its his equipment." That's right, folks. The group is being blackmailed into complete cappitulation by a Jerkass and his girl, simply because he wants to direct and doesn't like common consensus. For a group project where the syllabus states, in short, Common Consensus is King. * This troper is Assistant Director/Stage Manager on a musical production at his school. So, after a rehearsal, he was giving people their "How to improve this show" notes. He noted an issue in the timing of a movement on one song, and was verbally accosted because "The track was wrong, and [the director] says "binoculars up" first, so it wasn't the actors' fault." Cue me going on for a few minutes about how the tracks that day were the best we had because we didn't have the director's laptop, and besides, the director isn't going to

be guiding them through the motions of what they're doing, and its was only a possibility, not a forgone conclusion, that we would integrate horses racing in the track. Later, another issue came up regarding timing in a different track. "That wasn't the correct track!" Its the best we had that day, we don't have the director's laptop with the track, deal with what we give you. So, a third issue regarding track timing comes up. "THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT TRACK!" For the third damn time, it is the best we had that day, so deal with it! ** As if that wasn't bad enough, we noticed a guy added some gloves to his costume. He wore them as a poor man who, in a later scene, shows up in a tuxedo for his friend's wedding. Okay, wearing them when poor is alright. Don't wear them with the tux. "It's a character choice." The show is set in 1912, wearing, well, "hobo gloves" with a tux would be a faux pas. "It's a character choice!" Okay, well, its still not acceptable to wear in a tuxedo. You wouldn't wear them to your friend's wedding, would you? "Maybe I would. It's a character choice!" YOU CAN WEAR THEM AS A POOR MAN, BUT IN THE TUX ITS A BREACH OF CUSTOM OF 1912 ENGLISH SOCIETY. "But-" (Here, the producer interrupted) "Take the note." * We were discussing genetic disorders in our biology class. When someone brought up {{X-men}}, the resulting conversation led to our TEACHER saying that [[YouFailBiologyForever X-men might be real.]] * This troper read in the newspaper about several employees at Walmart who saw someone shoplifting and confronted him. The guy was armed, and so they wrestled him and took away his pistol. The man was later arrested. The real wallbanger in this story is that the employees were fired for disobeying the rules. The manager didn't give a damn that what the employees did potentially saved lives, they were just concerned that a rule was broken. What the hell? * This troper traded away his beloved Baker's Boy in TeamFortress2 for the Buckaroo cowboy hat (For the Engineer class), a hat that a friend had really wanted. He told the friend, the friend got excited and offered another hat (The Safe and Sound, for the Engineer class). Come trading time, he puts on and takes off the Safe and Sound, saying, "I need both for different occaisions." I traded away the hat he wanted to him, and he doesn't understand why I'm mad. To recap: I gave away my favorite hat for one he really wanted. He offered a hat I kind of wanted (a hat for the same class as the cowboy hat he wanted), then kept both because he wanted both. So, I'm down my favorite hat and an acceptable substitute. Great. * This troper and his girlfriend have discussed marriage in a couple years, but this troper was worried about possibly missing out on dating experience before making the commitment. In response, said troper's girlfriend felt the need for a [[OutOfCharacterMoment preemptive cheating strike]] (so she could find temporary security during the apparently impending break). Apparently talking about something means that it's been decided already??? What the hell!? Good thing she regrets it and realizes she prefers [[BiggerIsBetterInBed what I have to offer]] among other things. Needless to say the break is over before it began. I also realize this is a case of {{Love Makes You Dumb}} on my part for giving her another chance, but I don't have much else going on right now and have nothing to lose giving it another

shot. Either way, my forehead is bloody just thinking about this. * The fact that there is a fundamentalist Christian who is transgender but is against gays! WHAT THE FUCK????? See for yourself here. http://ethereal-crow.deviantart.com/ ** [[InsaneTrollLogic S\he got a sex change to nullify homosexuality.]] Don't try to think about it too hard... *** I've heard of people doing the same thing in the Middle East (in places where homosexuality is prohibited, but sex change operations are allowed). But given that this person was born and raised in ''England''...yeah, I got nothing. ** The real [[DarthWiki.WallBanger Wall Banger]] is the lack of consistency: saying "homosexuality is sinful" at one point and saying "God loves everyone" at another. Pick a stance and stick with it, dammit! *** Crazy as that guy... girl... person is, "homosexuality is sinful" and "God loves everyone" are not contradictory. One of the major points of TheBible is that God * loves everybody, despite that we're sinful. Because we're all sinful, however, [[AllCrimesAreEqual it is hypocritical to specifically attack homosexuals as if they were somehow worse than anybody else]]. ** The majority of my classamtes do not understand that a Transvestite is '''not''' the same thing as a hermaphrodite or a transsexual. ([[YourHeadAsplode sound of head exploding]]) * This troper's school computer has probably the most arbitrary content blocker on Earth. Instead of blocking stuff like porn(you know, the bad stuff), it pretty much picks random websites to block, regardless if it's relevant to school or not. [[SoBadItsHorrible It works about as well as you think it would.]] ** Are... Are you from Lee County High School? --[[{{Ncfan}} ncfan]] ** This troper has the opposite problem with her school's filter. I was looking for pictures for my Computer Art project and it was blocking innocent pictures because parts of the site had "tasteless" content. The wallbanger? On Google, the image filter is automaticly as high as it goes, yet I still came across a line drawing of a naked woman. * [[PrettyCoolGuy Eh thinks]] that the fact we have a [[FlameBait troper tales for this]] is a [[DarthWiki.WallBanger Wall Banger]]. * This troper found himself in an english class trying to cause his own head to explode with the power of rage as two people in his class argued for a ridiculously long time, trying to defend Stanley punching Stella during AStreetcarNamedDesire. ItGotWorse when Stella immediately went back to him and they saw ''nothing wrong with this''. ** This troper has an even more ridiculous [[DarthWiki.WallBanger Wall Banger]] related to that same text. After Stanley raped Blanche, one person claimed that part of her must have wanted it ''because she gave in so easily''. I didn't say anything at the time because I couldn't believe they would actually say something so stupid. Fortunately the teacher shot them down straight away... * (This was on the Real Life Wallbanger page before it got cut). In my area the local mental hospital decided it was a brilliant idea to take some of the patients to the fair. And when I say "patients" I don't mean the ones who checked in on their own due to depression or

something, I'm talking about criminally insane potential murderers. During the field trip one of the patients, a bi-polar convicted murderer, wandered off. I'll repeat that HE WANDERED THE FUCK OFF. The guy left the fairgrounds and there was a huge manhunt for him that ended when they found him 50 miles southwest of the city. To make it worse, the guy had a backpack with him on the trip that was filled with his important stuff (clothes, personal items, food he snuck into his room, his guitar... seriously) and none of the people found this AT ALL odd. * [[http://www.notoystory3.org/ This organization]] is quite a [[DarthWiki.WallBanger Wall Banger]] in itself. Apparently, ToyStory3 [[YouFailLogicForever winning an Oscar will make them lose their jobs.]] [[FlatWhat What.]] ** I... think they're trying to say not to vote Toy Story 3 as Best Picture because Disney is unfair to workers. But yeah, the site doesn't really make that clear. * This Troper had to do a group presentation about different sources of knowledge, so our group did one on the accuracy of Wikipedia. Immediately after our presentation, he told us that he had no idea what we had been talking about, despite him ''giving us the article'' that we based our presentation on. For a [[UpToEleven double]] [[DarthWiki.WallBanger Wall Banger]], he also asked why it mattered, when every other team had been using Wikipedia to get their information. * Apparently it's perfectly okay to play a video game that features ''awards'' for ''killing people,'' but cursing is '''totally''' out of the question: [[http://s73.photobucket.com/albums/i237/hill_phyre/?action=viewt=Pic ture5.png WHAM. WHAM. WHAM.]] ** And don't get me started on the graphics comment. * The Discovery Channel had this show documenting a murder in Italy. The teens who did it were fans of death metal [[hottip:*: they were also in a satanic cult that sacrificed people, though that's apparently not very important to the murder case]], so the show was questioning whether the music caused it [[hottip:*: or if it was at all possible it was because they were in a satanic cult that sacrificed people]]. When it came on I was in the room with my brother and his friend. All three of us are metalheads and had confused looks on our faces as some Italian guy said how all metal fans are basically psychopaths, then we all sarcastically planned our next murder. The show itself was pretty neutral on the issue (having guys from death metal bands talk about the issue, keeping everything fact-based, and presenting alternate explanations [[hottip:*: like the satanic cult that sacrificed people]]), the wallbanger came from all these people using the same tired accusations they used on Alice Cooper, KISS, Twisted Sister, [[=AC/DC=]], Metallica, Black Sabbath, basically every other famous rock band (even doing the same "Think of the children!!!" thing that the PMRC did in the 80's, [[SarcasmMode which worked out ''really'' well for them]]) instead of noticing that there were other things that could've been to blame ([[OverlyLongGag like satanic cults that sacrificed people]]). In the end it was determined that the girl who was murdered was a sacrifice by the satanic cult that sacrificed

people and the boy was killed because he quit the satanic cult (that sacrificed people). ** About the PMRC - aren't they the ones who made the [[{{MarkOfShame}} Parental Advisory stickers]]? The same stickers that are seen by bands and artists the PMRC would loathe as a ''badge of honour''? [[{{SarcasmMode}} Smooth move]], [[{{YouSuck}} PMRC dopes]]... * On a lighter note, being a T.A. leads to rather a lot of amusing wall-bangers. Many students taking a test on Othello were convinced that the story was interrupted by an attack by the Norwegians (it was actually the Turks). Also, many people seem to believe that England, France, and Africa are cities. * One fine day in [[{{Tropers.Snowsky}} my]] social studies class, we had to take out our homework so the teacher could check on it. It turned out that I did my homework, but my friend didn't do hers. So what did my teacher do? [[DarthWiki.WallBanger He praised my friend for being honest that she forgot her homework, then turned around and chewed me out for making my notes too short.]] [[FlatWhat What.]] * This troper's current group assignment group has two people who are this trope incarnate. Person 1 hasn't responded to our emails detailing on what to do because her internet has been down so we weren't able to contact her. Sounds fair right? Wrong; said person hasn't responded to us or talked to us in days and she lives on residence. [[WhatAnIdiot Literally a 5 minute walk from the school with literally hundreds of computers]]. Plus she has a class with each of us and she ignores or bolts out when class is over without a word. Person 2 shows up to meetings and never says or contributes anything. Recently we asked person 2 to get us some text material from the textbook for us to use. We show an example and she says she understands and confirms twice. We get something that is the opposite of what we asked for. When we point out gently that this is not what we ask for and show her the example again she calls us assholes. The real [[DarthWiki.WallBanger Wall Banger]] is that we didn't want them in our group. The teacher put them in because of a nonsensical rule of needing at least one girl in the group. She has no problems with an all girl group yet she denies all guy groups. Great now my head looks like a hairy tomato. * I remember I was watching an episode of TheColbertReport when I saw an old black lady being interviewed, in it she said that she was happy that we now live in an age where black people have equal rights and can vote, what was she voting for? [[HypocriticalHumor Why to keep homosexuals from getting married]] of course. ** It's the Colbert Report. Take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt. It's all fake * A year ago, my father took his in-house service dog to a vetrinary ER (which happens to be the only after-hours vet ER in my town) in the middle of the night. When he and I got there with our dog, there was a 60% chance of saving him through surgery (the dog bloated), but the fact that we didn't have $3000 readily available dropped that chance to zero, primairly because at the time we didn't have pet insurance and because the vet techs wouldn't work with us on a payment plan (with the help of a 2500+ member online dog community that my father

belongs to and is fairly well-respected in we could've gotten that paid off within a week or so) for the surgery. After about an hour or two arguing with the vet tech and trying to contact somebody that might be able to help us (who couldn't help us until morning), it seemed to us that the survival chance had probably by that time dropped beyond the point where surgery would've made a difference and so were forced to put him down. The wallbanger really comes in when the vet techs had no qualms about letting us pay on a payment plan regarding the dog's euthanasia and related costs but would supposedly have lost their jobs if they had let us do a payment plan for the surgery that would've had a 60% chance of saving our dog's life had he been operated on immediately. A couple days afterward, the aformentioned online community to which my father belongs [[InternetBackdraft sent so many angry e-mails and phone calls to the clinic's corporate office that their servers crashed for two or three days]] and to this day they still remember my father's name and the name of the dog we brought in to them when we went back there last night with insurance and a different dog who had a different problem that thankfully, was not life-threatening. * You guys remember the AquaTeenHungerForce movie controversy, right? The LCD light thing in Boston? The one that ''made national news'' because they thought it was a bomb? I mean, I know this was only a few years after the attacks, and tensions were high, but really, who mistakes a gigantic LCD light billboard with little characters on it for a ''bomb?!'' I mean, calling in the local bomb squad to test it is one thing, but to immediately alert the national news so that the country begins to collectively shit bricks at once? [[FlatWhat What... I don't even]] [[HumansAreMorons know how to fathom]] [[TooDumbToLive the sheer amount of pity I felt - and still feel - for the stupidity that was radiating from Massachusetts that day.]] ** The "LED light billboards" you are talking about were not exactly in open view; they were left in unusual, unmarked, and unattended black cases that were '''closed''' and left for other people to find and open, only everybody who saw them just saw the stupid cases and didn't know what they were and didn't feel like opening them at the risk of having explosives blow up in their face. If you want to run a ViralMarketing campaign with LED lights, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that putting them in suspicious black cases is a fucking stupid idea. *** It was Viral marketing... That WORKED. Seriously, how many news channels were covering this when it happened? TONS of advertising. * [[SankakuComplex "What's that? One person in Japan complained about a racy joke? SCREW THE JAPANESE AND EVERYONE WHO LIVES THERE AND TELL THEM TO GROW SOME BALLS RAAAAUGH."]] You're welcome. * In this troper's eyes, anyone who falls under [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys this trope]] is instantly 100% qualified for one great, big, giant wallbanger. ** This troper seconds that motion. * There was an article online about a boy who defaulted on a wrestling match because his opponent was a girl. He said it was because of religious beliefs, but I doubt how true that actually is(I mean, what religion says you can't wrestle a girl for sport? A lame one that's

what) but I'm no expert so whatever. What followed was a long series of REALLY sexist comments that can be summed up as either: ** 1. She's a girl, she has no place on the mat(never mind that she had to qualify for the tournament by winning a fair share of matches) 2. He could possibly hurt her([[SarcasmMode Oh Mai GAH!!! you are saying that someone can get hurt wrestling, that's a new one, especially to the girl that wrestled many matches before]]). Did I mention this was wrestling and they were both around 112 pounds? Even with his "natural upper body advantage" he is still quite weak and it is highly unlikely he could truly hurt anyone without breaking the rules. 3. [[AllMenArePerverts He would probably lose control of himself and molest her]]. You're fucking kidding me, [[FridgeLogic are they suspecting the kid who just forfeited the match using religious reasons (regardless of how true) of being a molester?]] *** This troper thinks that a more reasonable reason would be that something done on the mat could be [[AllMenArePerverts misinterpreted as a sexual act.]] Although a reasonable solution would be just to make things clear with the girl, [[ThisAintRocketSurgery even performing a neural transplant on an explosive device]] is easier than [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys becoming some sort of "bad boy"]] ** The most sickening part were that these comments were the highest rated, while the ones that PROMOTED equality among the sexes were marked hella low, even if they had sound arguments. I hold nothing against the kid himself, but these comments from adults is just... frustrating. ValuesDissonance I guess. * Any and every fundamentalist who is going to use Pearl Harbor as a 'valid' reason to hate Japanese people in general. Same thing with 9/11 and Muslims. There are many other examples as well. Basically, they're saying it's okay to hate entire groups of people for what some people in said group did. As if the USA is a peace loving freedom fighting nation run on cotton candy and unicorn farts. If you do manage to ask them about all the people [[EagleLand "we've"]] killed, they'll likely say "They all deserved it. Even the people living there who didn't partake or support the war at all. Screw them." [[DarthWiki.WallBanger *SLAM*]] [[SarcasmMode Doesn't get much better than this.]] * This troper remembers wanting to smack his head against a wall some years back when that movie, "Alexander" hit the theaters and he saw, 'At The Movies' with Ebert and Roeper, I can't really remember what Ebert said on the movie but Roeper, in a comment on Alexanders character, said that he was, "Sexually confused" to refer to Alexanders choice of having a male lover...or two...which was common back then considering Greeks didn't see women as intellectual equals. Hell, it's likely that a Greek man today would look at our men and see us as sexually confused for 'not' doing this because we 'do' see women as intellectual equals now. * "Hello, I claim to be a lover of all thing American. EVERYONE ELSE SUCKS! What am I going to do? Bash the shit out of almost every American based manufacturer or company aside from one or two whom may have just exported all manufacturing to China." One chew out later from yours truly, and he's been abnormally silent. Ah, karma. * Someone in [[Tropers/{{Mousy677}} my]] maths class in Year Nine once

asked - I kid you not - "Is four a Prime Number?" Being a DeadpanSnarker, I answered, "Yes." The reply: "Oh, thank you!" Cue what-the-fuck look from teacher, and me saying, "Ooh, there's a rare bird called a gullible in that tree!" Yes. She looked. Cue me saying "This calls for a WallBanger." This finally ended when the teacher explained the rules of Prime Numbers - although not what "gullible" means. ---Clicking on this link back to [[DarthWiki.WallBanger Wall Banger]] is probably the stupidest thing you'll do all day. You are entering the dark side. ----

WallOfWeapons * [[GalenDev This Troper]] is proud to say that he has a WallOfWeapons, though granted, certainly not to the ridiculous degree listed here. Most of the weapons on my wall are swords... and all but three of those are combat-useless show pieces, but the wall still looks mighty pretty, if I do say so myself. * This troper has no real weapons, but he does have a virtual wall of weapons used as references for RPG games. * [[Keirei I]] don't know if this counts: All I have are knives on my wall, but they aren't hanging from a nail or anything. They're stuck to the walls. All 82 of them. The only weapon that is hanging from the wall is my police baton, and they was because I couldn't stick it into the wall. * [[Tropers/{{Dallenson}} I]] eventually plan to create a wall with my dad for my [[{{Nerfbrand}} Nerf]] weapons, [[{{Rummagefail}} to many to keep track of]] * This troper now has a wall of weapons, albeit on the floor. It consists of 3 LARP Swords (Wooo), a Baseball bat (better), 1 Katana Replica, 2 Elven Swords from LOTR and 3 guns from his father.

Wangst [[SincerityMode Come on, we've all had our moments.]] ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________ * [[@/MrW I]] once sobbed because I '''didn't want to go swimming'''. On a perfectly clear day. Yeah, I was rather emotional back in the day. * I think I come off as this sometimes....My brother is actually trying to convince my parents to get me tested for various things and I've actually proved to myself on a handful of occasions that I can't do a thing. Seriously, if you knew me you'd agree. So I was rather wangst-y back 3 years ago when I was 10 (puberty hit me early and ''hard'' but its slowing a little) but now I'm laughing at everything so hard I only wangst about the possibility of being tested. Wait, is that an aversion?

* I was rather ... special in elementary school. [[ThisIsSparta Every. Fucking. Thing]] led to an [[WaterWorks emotional breakdown]]... [[NeverLiveItDown Life's rather hard for me now.]] ** Are you me? I was like this too, all the way up to freshman year of high school. [[NeverLiveItDown Yeah...]] ** Same here. I remember being a little kid who, upon hearing a scary rumor, would fabricate an elaborate reality for myself around this rumor that suddenly turned my life into a hell of potential murderers and thieves and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking scary dogs]]. I was constantly crying about everything. ** Thirded. I try not to remember. * This troper once had a friend who was a subversion: He frequently talks about how much his life sucked, and attempted suicide at least once. However, he was one of the biggest DeadpanSnarker {{Cloudcuckoolander}}s I've ever met. * This Troper once met a girl, who attempted suicide. And she just wouldn't shut up about it. She was constantly depressed, she refused talking to other people in class (despite This Troper's effort), because they were 'shallow' and 'did not understand what she's been through'. Her face, when she knew about This always cheerful and singing Troper's own sucide attempt in the past was hilarious. * [[Tropers/BjornStravinsky This troper's]] sole condition on winning adolescence was to get to age 20 without ever uttering the words, "You have no idea what it's like to be me" to his parents. With that succeeded, now he needs to get to age 30 without growing a neck beard and/or any form of ironic facial hair. His recent influx of flannel to his wardrobe, and amount of PBR drinking and NPR listening he does is bringing him too close for comfort to hipster douchebaggery. ** Hipsters hate other hipsters more than anything. Just saying. * This troper gets ''very'' worried that she is guilty of this every time she asks her best friend to talk. No matter how many times he tells her that it's why he's there, and it's okay to ask for help, inside she can't help but feel that she's letting things bother her that she should have gotten over a long time ago. ** I can relate. I often feel like this might be a defining character trait for me, which is a cause of wangst in itself. I try to make it a bit easier on my friends ([[YourMilageMayVary or not...]]) by spreading it around to several different friends, so they can each have a slightly more manageable load. * This troper and her friend has a dog and a rabbit respectivly. They both died two days apart this winter. I mourned my sweet and dorky dog, but decided that it was better to remember all the good times we had together and continue on with my life. My friend started crying when she found out her rabbit was gone and posted a facebook status, mourning her. She did the same thing the next week. And the week after that. And the week after that. And brought it up in every single conversation. And posted more facebook statuses. And wrote in her blog. And brought it up in conversation for no reason what so ever again. For two months. So one day when she was crying over her dead rabbit, I told her that I knew exactly what she was going through and told everyone about my dog. Everyone turned to me with wide eyes and asked why I hadn't said anything while my friend gave me a deathglare.

Sigh... * This troper has met (and subsequently blocked) a certain person who would consistently wangst over everything nonstop. From people who didn't agree with him on something, to (get this) the local tornado sirens being replaced. Like, really. * This troper had it ''bad'' in middle school. I got over it for a while, but now I think I'm starting to veer back into wangst, but I'm trying to stop it from happening by, you know, not telling everyone within earshot. Does it still count as wangst if it's more selfdirected instead of "no one understands me"? * "What's this? You don't agree with how we think? OH, THE HUMANITY!" Fundamentalists on 'differing opinions'. ** I sure hope you aren't referring to religious people, because that would be kind of ironic. I've heard my share of atheists get their panties in a wad just as many times as my fellow church-goers (though they tend to be on the self-righteous side). * I tend to think that I'm doing this, mainly because 1) I have depression 2) Nothing really bad ever happened to me before. So, I think I don't have a right to whine, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger even though it's something that I have a good reason to cry about.]] [[spoiler: I don't really think I should be posting this here....it really sounds like I'm whining, doesn't it?]] ** Yes it does. *** She said she has depression. I think that puts her above the level of the average wangsty teen if only because she can't control it. * This Troper was very wangsty in middle school. I hated the world, and wanted it to end just because I viewed everybody as idiots and immature. This was due to the fact that I was constantly picked on, even by the person who I considered my best friend. I thought of committing suicide but never did it. I cried when someone stole my iPod on the bus and everyone was afraid I'd blow it up or something. Some people still are. I'm on my last year of highschool now and I actually find alot of enjoyment in life. I still think alot of people are immature but I know at times I'm just as immature as them. As for my best friend well me and him are still friends, I just don't have any one best friend. * This troper had a childhood friend who cried about every little thing that came up. Didn't got the note she wanted in Math, someone made her a funny face, her pencil got lost...with little time, people stopped taking her seriously and laughed at her for crying that much, making her cry even more and us laugh harder...until she laughed at herself, too, and started to take life with a little more humour. That made her stop being such a puss. ** I don't know why, but in This Troper's opinion, that girl came off as a huge [[TheWoobie Woobie]] and you and your friends (or whatever they were) came off as [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses.]] Seriously, laughing at a LITTLE GIRL for being ''sad'' about something? *** [[CaptainObvious Oh yeah, we were all jerks]]. But it was an all girl school (which means we were all little girls too), and everytime we tried to cheer her up she would basically tell us to fuck off, and cry even harder because nobody would ever leave her alone. Plus, there was a time when she cried every week or so, and we were like

"Gee...again?" until it became utterly ridiculous, to the point of this exchange: -->Teacher: You! Always complaining and crying...! -->Friend: (interrupts her, surprised) I haven't cried in ''your'' class. * This troper is so worried about invoking this trope and being called emo... so she tends to treat ''everything'' as a joke and/or use humour. I'm here to entertain. *looks around* *cries in the corner* ** You're not alone ;w; -pats back** *Joins in patting* * This troper used to do this A LOT when online. Nowadays, he goes to absurd lengths in order to ''not'' sound Wangsty. To the point of going back and deleting anything (even on [[ThisVeryWiki this very wiki]]) I've posted that could come off as even the least bit wangsty. He used to do it a lot offline too, but has since [[TakeAThirdOption found a pretty good medium between]] Wangst and [[StepfordSmiler Stepford Smiling]], for the most part. Now, with all that being said: NONE OF YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND ME! ** Maybe beacuse you don't understand yourself. If you started to analyze your own thoughts and actions, find out what do you like and dislike about everything and cool down a bit, you would have the time to see all those people that could understand you, if given a little time to meet you. :) *** That "NONE OF YOY FUCKING UNDERSTAND ME!" part was sarcasm. I should have made that clearer, apparently. * During Elementary School, practically everything would drive me to tears, even something really stupid like striking out in kickball. * These days if I wangst it's in the confines of my own head, but back in the day I used to cry waaaay too much. Ah well, I got better. * Mom, what's it matter if I didn't like your meal? I didn't complain, right? That's right, isn't it? I never complain, right? I never complain, you always complain but I never complain... I never complain, I just ate it like I always do. I never complain, I just listen! I just '''fucking''' listen all the time! I always listen even when I don't want to! '''''WHY THE FUCK AM I CRYING WHILE TYPING THIS, I'M SO STUPID! STUPID!''''' Stop crying! I'm not supposed to feel anything anymore! I feel nothing! Nothing at all! Nothing at all... ** I feel you, Troper. [[YouAreNotAlone You are not alone.]] *** A textbook example of wangst, everybody! * When I was younger, I used to whine and bitch about anything short of not getting my way, then telling them that they don't understand me (That part was slightly justifiable because I was born with PDD-NOS, in other words a very light form of autism). After becoming more mature and more sarcastic, I tend to only Wangst as a form of a joke. * This Troper does everything that He can to avoid this Trope,although I probably use it more than I would like to acknowledge.I have dealt with Depression and thoughts of Suicide multiple times but I keep it to Myself and I am confident that I would not try pimping it out for sympathy.I like to think of Myself as a ''{{JerkassWoobie}}'' but,realistically speaking,I'm just a ''{{Jerkass}}'' * Interestingly, during my stay at a teen psychiatric ward, ''none'' of the patients were like this. The majority of my group was actually

pretty cheerful most of the time (no, depression does ''not'' mean being constantly miserable) and those who weren't were also the most reluctant to talk about their problems. * I had a really weird version of this when I was younger- most of the time I was [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheStoic The Stoic]], but every so often something would set me off. It might be a person who I didn't really know saying something about me, a panicky,personal cry about how I was going to fail my exams or just a view of somebody on the internet that made me go into a mad bout of fury. The worst one though was probably when my friend was (in her view) joking with me(lets call her A), and as I went to get something that she'd thrown something across the room, (presumably) invited a friend of hers (who I didn't like- lets call her B)to sit in my seat. I asked her to move and some how set of said friend A's notorious temper and she accidently reduced me, not just to tears, but to a panic attack. Sorry. Rant over. * This Troper tends to do this quite a bit, usually involving not being able to get over someone. [[IGotBetter I've gotten better]] however, but at times I just keep things to myself. I sometimes come off as a [[TheStoic person who isn't very emotional]] when all those emotions are just kept up inside. * I don't know if this dwells into wangst but I occasionally think it does. First, some backstory: When I was 10, I moved abroad for about 6 years. People say it's a once in a lifetime experience, but for me it was hell. I came back to my home country, and noticed how pretty much everything and everyone I knew changed.Those 6 years abroad caused me to became a bit withdrawn, but I still try my hardest to fit in with my childhood friend's new group, but I totally lack acceptance. Even he, the very person I thought would support me gives me the cold shoulder. Once in a while, I get very depressed and on the verge of crying when I believe that I am no longer accepted anywhere. It's a very tough way to live. After all, when you are with a group like that, being yourself is out of the question. * This troper, when in 7th - 8th grade wandered into severe {{Wangst}} territory. I would consider suicide, attempt to slit my wrist and not focus properly on ''any'' school work and do internet most of the time, because, "Oh what's the point, I'm not going to live for much longer anyway, and blah blah blah.", "I'm such a coward for not ending my life already." and ""I want to die." I hated my life back then; all because of too much homework, or something! On top of that, I used to blame my sister and parents for making me feel this way, for not understanding me...it was pathetic. Then, end of 8th grade, told my parents about all this, and continued on with the same routing minus the wangsting, now I just admit it's me being lazy. *shrugs* * This troper used to be like this back in middle school, and cried about everything. Granted she had {{Domestic Abuse}}, {{Have You Tried Not Being Different}} (related to her insane number physical disabilities and medical conditions that impact her frequently, often in ways that people can't see), and bullies who took advantage of that then, but still... The people (adults) she did try to talk to about it back then brushed her off and then told the {{Domestic Abuser}}. So it kind of was, for her, "You people don't fucking understand what I'm

trying to tell you! Listen to me, you dicks! Are you trying to understand at all?!" She still chews out people who make arbitrary decisions about what she can and cannot do (physically - example: I'm going deaf. I can't understand the announcements, regardless of how loud the thing is. Don't come in, look at me, and then decide I can get the content of them just fine), though, with something closer to, "You're not in my body - and I don't expect you to get what it's like. But don't be stupid and decide you know everything ''anyway''." The reason she wangsted so much about the D.A. thing? The person was threatening to (and more than once almost did) kill her. Regularly. {{It Got Better}}, long story short, thankfully, and now she doesn't talk about that part of her family or about her myriad physical challenges often. When she ''does'' tell people or go into greater detail than "I have X, it means I have trouble with Y - google it, and don't ask me 20 questions about how it feels", she tends to get the reaction of disbelief - precisely because she doesn't talk about it or complain. She sometimes wangsts occasionally when alone, but not that often. She's also aware that she's depressed, and is seeking help to deal with the wangst that's related to trauma. But she makes jokes about both a lot, which she enjoys a great deal. Ironically, her snark and self-deprecation have turned out to be wonderful tools for chasing off the Wangst moments. * This troper's ex had a Wangst moment right after I broke up with him a few weeks shy of our one-year anniversary. This doesn't sound so uncommon, except he took it a little too badly and started desperately begging me to stay, revealing that he had taken loads of measures to make sure we would graduate at the same time and made sure we would move in together, tried to propose to me, tried to get me turned on so I would change my mind, wouldn't let me go cry in the bathroom because he thought I was going in there to slice myself with a razor, and apparently attacked a younger male friend for being in the same room a few hours later. (I have no idea; I didn't see anything because I'd locked myself in the bathroom.) My reason for needing to end it was fairly reasonable-- college was more important. ...Oh, and I should mention this guy was almost 30.

WannabeLine * This one time in college, one of my societies organised a fancy dress Hallowe'en party, though we had to have it several days before in order for everyone to be able to come. I dressed as Satan. After the party, a few of us went to a club, and naturally, I was the only one there in costume. While we were waiting in line, a bouncer pulled me out and whisked me in.

WantingIsBetterThanHaving * Tropers, you know this to be true. How often has this happened to everyone here? That shinily wrapped Christmas present, that everelusive FirstKiss/[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean first time]] with your preferred gender? How many gamers have tried day and night to beat that NintendoHard last level, only to be brought down by the ending,

or [[AWinnerIsYou lack thereof?]] How many of us waited for that season premiere with bated breath, straining towards the next chapter of our favorite show, but found that when it came, it just [[HypeBacklash didn't live up to expectations?]] ** This troper thoroughly believes it to not be true and, even if the desired object ''isn't'' quite what she thought it would be, she can still take great delight in having something others don't. ** Yes, this troper realized that some years ago, I thought the "thing" you want most of the time is not worth enough to justify the things that you go through to get it, so you should also enjoy the journey to get the "thing", or try to make the best of it. * This troper was anticipating the release of {{Spore}} for months and when it came out i was thoroughly dissapointed at how limited the entire game was. ** *sigh* [[LoneCentrist This troper]] too... this troper too... but this troper was anticipating it for almost three years... *goes into a corner and cries because of Will Wright* * This troper had a GaiaOnline account. I saw a cool item that I wanted, but it was really rare and expensive. So I saved up for weeks of posting in boards and playing games to earn the gold to buy it. Only to realize that all I got in the end was pixels on a screen with nothing to do anymore. * I have an interesting situation going on. I'm in a serious relationship with my girlfriend (we live together and plan to get married one day), but I also have a huge crush on a guy I met recently. I want nothing romantic of him (I'm in an open relationship so I could actually have some romancing with him), I just want to be friends with him and enjoy the rush I get from being close to him. * Not the case with this troper. She thoroughly enjoys the things she aquires, but finds the process to getting them exhausting, and not the least bit fun. Especially when collecting things, she's overjoyed when it's completed and that nightmare is over. * When this troper was five, she really wanted a 'Dream Baby.' It was one of those baby doll toys that talks and eats. I get it for Christmas, and I turn it on... It won't stop crying, and then I begin crying as well. For years, my brother used it to scare me, by putting it in my room and stuff. To this day, I'm still trying to destroy it. I've dropped it from our roof as a kid millions of times in fear, but it's still in one piece. I'm too scared to see if it'll work, but I would expect not, with how many lightning storms it's been through. * For quite awhile, once this troper heard of the Wii being purchased for his workplace, wanted badly to play BandHero and get his groove on. Once he discovered the setlist, he invoked this trope word for word. * This troper wanted a boyfriend (or, technically, someone who liked her back) for a while. She eventually got one, wound up dating a [[{{Understatement}} perverted asshole]] for a month, and now really wishes that had never happened. She's ''still'' suffering the mental effects of that. * This troper has been wishing for nearly a year now for her best (male) friend to show an interest in being in a relationship with her, and ever since that RelationshipUpgrade, it's been nothing but

complete awkwardness for weeks

WardrobeMalfunction * While changing into our costumes for a high-school play, a friend and I both suffered from a severe case of escaped testicle. We only noticed our own problem when we went to discreetly warn each other. * I had a bizarre set of coincidences in 8th grade gym. My pants had a hole in the crotch (due to bad stitches). It hadn't been a problem, but on this day, I came in small and loose boxers. I was walking (away from everybody else, they bunch up and are slow) and looked down to see the tip of my penis sticking out of my pants. It was quite funny after I stuffed it back in. * I was in the middle of a growth spurt, and my mom didn't want to buy me clothes that I'd grow out of in less than a month. I had already switched to boxers, and I was wearing shorts when it was intolerably hot. (It was even more intolerably hot, as my sixth-grade class was in the only room in the building with no windows.) I got an erection, and [[BiggusDickus it peeked out of my right pant leg]]. * I have done this a few times before. I was wearing black trousers while I was an extra on WaterlooRoad, and I realised after that they were the ones that split while I was at school the week before, but instead of getting them fixed I had just thrown them back in the washing pile. The second time was when I was in college but accidentally grabbed a pair of trousers to put on to class, but accidentally grabbed some that were too small, and I bent over and they split in class. * I was at my locker in high school one day when my friend ran up, grabbed my arm and dragged me to the bathroom with her. I had to fix her bra, the strap of which had somehow unlatched from the back. She had no clue how it happened, so I fixed it for her and she went on her way to class. About an hour later, she ran up to me in the hallway again, this time waving her bra strap around with no subtlety and shouting, "It did it again!" * In English class one year, we were sharing embarrassing stories since it tied in with what we were reading, and what stood out the most was the teacher's story from her childhood. She was chasing some boy across the playground while her friends were screaming her name. When she finally stopped to notice them, they were laughing their heads off. Then she noticed her skirt...a hundred feet behind. * This troper can never wear shirts with buttons. They always seem to come undone. Always. One day, her shirt unbuttoned itself about halfway for the ''entire day'' and nobody mentioned it. * During my Easter holidays in 2011, I went to the beach with my best friend. My swimming costume is an adjustable halter neck, and it's tied up a bit tight right now, making it a bit too small, but any looser would be too loose. Anyway, I was in the water, and swam with a wave, getting pushed under the water. When I came back up I realised my top had slid all the way down past my chest. My friend noticed but thankfully not she nor anyone else saw my actual chest, as I realised it before I stood up. * I seem to have a problem with short pants because they always tear

in the groin, in one case even happened with a pair of ''jeans''. The worst case occurred during a school trip, more than one hour away from my home. It was a vertical tear starting in my groin, going along my left leg, and ending.... well not actually ending, it divided my pants completely. ---Go back to WardrobeMalfunction, but please, please put something else on.

Warhammer40000 * I played a game the other day with me as Necrons and him as GreyKnights. It was capture and control and we tied but the highlight of the match was when he deicded that his chimera with 0 weapons left and no passangers was no longer any use. His InsaneTrollLogic decided the best option was to [i] ram my monolith, with a chimera [/i]. Sadly it did not get all sixes and failed to touch my 'lith. * I once got into melee combat between a squad of regular Gaurdsmen and Abbadon. He missed every attack and when it was my turn to attack i managed to get enough sucessful hits to kill him. Sadly his squad managed to get me on the next turn but I was well beyond hope then and just wanted to kill his best character. * During a Take and Hold (two objectives on the opposite ends of the map) against Space Marines I had three Nobz in Mega Armor camp on my objective and the rest of the forces raced toward the opposite table edge. On the last turn a single Shoota Boy left from a mob (the fourth model that survived from the whole army) looked at the objective, prayed to Mork and plunged headlong at it. I rolled a 6 for the Run move. He made it by half an inch! * during a 2 on 2 friendly match (chaos and necrons vs tau and guards) I charged a group of berserkers into a group of tau fire warriors, killing them all... on the same turn my friend fired into a group of kroot, killing them all... in the same mack my dreadnought one-shotted a hammerhead and standard group of marines were constantly attacked by a group of guardsmen and they never lost a man, over all it was a great game * I have used many of the gun sight bitz that come with ork boyz to give all of the slugga boyz in my WAAAAGH! iron sights on their close combat weapons. It seemed like the orky thing to do and it has probably made them hit better in close combat. * I have lost Ghazghkull against an IG army. In the first turn, the Trukk he was riding on Kareened! 18" straight into the enemy, Ghaz was the only one to be wounded. Turn 2-5 he rampages and removes twice his points value in models, and in my opponent's 5th shooting phase Ghaz was caught outside of combat and took 3 wounds 1 from a meltagun, and the last 2 from two guardsmen with Grenade Launcher! * I was playing a 1,000 pt game of my Orks vs a friend's Black Templars. He had two gigantic units of black templars, a devastator, and a couple of skimmers. I was able to take out the skimmers and the devastator, and by throwing three of my four units of shoota boyz at it, I was able to nearly eliminate one of his massive troop units. Last turn, and he had it all sown up, his one massive unit on one of

the objectives, the remnants of the other contesting a second objective. In my desperation, I gave a loud and heartfelt prayer to Gork and Mork, and fired my Shokk Attack Gun. It rolled double 6s for damage, didn't scatter, and that whole massive unit of Black Templars, easily triple or even quadruple my Big Mek's points cost, just went bye-bye, no saves allowed. He won the game on kill-points, but we both agreed that the Big Mek was totally MVP. * When 40k's Apocalypse was quite new, I was securing one entire flank of the large table when out of nowhere a player using Shrike and his Wing of veteran assault marines blindsided me. One round of slaughter basically saw Dante reduced to 1 wound, his large escort chopped to ribbons and Shrike and his armed to the teeth Wing taking almost no casualties in return. I kept imaging Shrike going "OhCrap" as next turn, Dante called his strike cruiser and asked it to bombard his position with no less than 4 accurate devastating hits on a bunched up group of models. Nothing that did not have an Invulnerable save survived that bombardment... including Shrike himself. What was especially funny is that Shrike's chaplain (who had an Invulnerable save) survived that bombardment too, and the minor character proceeded to beat the stuffings out of one of the most honorable, major characters in 40k fluff, in retaliation for that bombardment... Also, the joke around the store when the new 5th edition Space Marine Codex is that Shrike finally wised up and got himself an Iron Halo (and thus an Invulnerable save) thanks to that incident... * For some reason, when playing againt my friend, the dice behave in strange ways. I've had my Chaos Lord attack his command squad, kill most of them while losing one wound to a power fist (he had already lost one wound to shooting), and on the next turn, get killed by the last remaining model in the unit, a Guardsman carrying a battle standard (we ruled that he managed to drive the banner through the helmet's eyepiece), had a single Chaos Space Marine survive 120 lagun shots, had had my Dark Eldar Archon charge a unit of 50 Guaardman with a Comissar, win the combat and run them down after they fail their leadership 10 with reroll, only to spend two turns stuck fighting a squad 5 Guardsmen in a combat whre nobody hits anything, and had all my lances roll ones to hit or penetrate. He also has a group of Nobs that have an absurdly high track record when ti comes to passing their saves. * my tyranids are somwhat known for bing tank killers in all forms, hivetyrants have onshot dreatnorghts from the otherside of the feild, a carnifex tore up a mob of killa kans and my biovore took down a devilfish. * This Troper once had a [[PhysicalGod Daemon Prince]] killed in a single round of shooting by a squad of [[RedShirt Conscripts]]. He also watched a match in which a group of Lictors were stalemated in assault for the entire game by a pair of Ratling Snipers who refused to fail their armor saves. * This Troper used green stuff to create a small rabbit and mounted it on a flying base. Said rabbit is used as a Daemon Prince with a Tzeentch Chaos Marines army. His kill count in one Apocalypse game came to twenty-three Imperial Guardsmen, seven Assault Marines, and a [[HumongousMecha Dreadnaught]].

* This troper is keeping a running tally of powerful enemy characters that have perished due to getting wounded by my Hive Tyrant's bonesword and rolling boxcars on their Ld check to not die. This happens in my games far more often than probability would suggest. * In a game recently this troper had a Tyranid zoanthope (floating brains that fire psychic [[DeathRay death lasers]] and are pitifully feeble in assault) assaulted by a unit of Ork bikerboyz, who proceeded to utterly fail to hurt it. In return it headbutted one of them to death. The bikerz failed their morale test and were run down by my Zoey. It was hilarious. * I have played one 2 vs 2 game (My Orks and Necrons vs Tau and Eldar). My partner was almost useless, but my single, 115 point Warboss in Mega Armour was able to stomp through almost the entire Tau army by himself including a squad of Dire Avengers before he finally died to a squad of pathfinders. In a different game where a friend of mine just threw everything we had at each other. Ghazghkull managed to kill Typhus, a squad of Possessed Marines, a Land Raider and a small number of Plague Marines before he died. In total, he killed over 700 points by himelf. * Played a 6 player (three to a side) game of king of the hill yesterday, with a time limit rather than a turn limit. Come the end of the game, I had a lone scout with a heavy bolter stood on top of the hill, with a squad of kroot within assualt range. If they managed to assault, then they would have gained the hill, killed my scout, and won. Cue the scout promptly (deliberately) failing his -50% morale check, running to the other side of the hill, putting the kroot out of assault range, then my turn starting and my scout regrouping just as time was called. ---'''Now [[WarHammer40K go forth]]''', '''for the NAME OF THE EMPEROR!!!!'''

WarriorPoet * This troper has a friend in the military, serving in an infantry regiment. Said friend, sometimes while on duty, ponders the purpose and meaning behind his actions, his role in the institution - often leading to long bouts of philosophical musings on the meaning of life, the morality of warfare and political matters, the pursuit of happiness, and so on. Often he would explore and question these ideas in his journal, sometimes for hours on end. Unfortunately, his tendency to appear more intellectual than his fellow infantrymen has often led to his quiet ostracization among the junior ranks. Probably could be considered a deconstruction of this trope. * I teach historical European martial arts, have studied karate, jujitsu and German wrestling, and on one occasion broke a mugger's nose (and possibly damaged his wrist) when he [[NeverBringAKnifeToAFistFight pulled a knife]] on me. I also act, sing, write poetry, am working on a novel and personally consider well-constructed music to be the most wonderful thing crafted by humanity. As I've thought before, I'd like to lead a life where you'd

expect the score to be written by EnnioMorricone: contrast the music from TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly with the title theme from The Mission. It's the same composer, but you'd never guess. * I am a subversion; while I know a lot about the intellectual side of war, my only experience was in schoolboy brawls long ago-and very few of those. My younger brother plays this straight. He is fascinated by martial arts and both studies them and trains in them. I don't know how formidable he would be in an actual fight but I do know I couldn't match him.

WatchingTheSunset * This troper is guilty for sometimes watching sunsets. * This troper would do so more if he had someone worth watching it with. * This troper is a skydiver, and my most memorable moments have been sunset loads. There's something magical about taking off after sunset, going up and seeing the sun "rising", and then watching it set all over again while hanging under the canopy. With deep brakes I'm almost motionless in the air, only descending slowly downwards. * This troper used to live right by the Puget Sound, and would see the most breathtaking sunsets over the water, especially in the summer. Unfortunately, I had to move to Spokane.

WatchItForTheMeme * This editor has started using Old Spice solely because of TheManYourManCouldSmellLike. ** That ''is'' the point of advertising. This troper's guilty of doing the same, though. * Is it bad that I feel I have hipster cred whenever I watched one of these NOT for the meme? (E. g. I watched ''{{Sketchbook}}'' because Makino Yui sung the ED song) * Hey, it's how this troper gets introduced to a lot of things, such as AceAttorney and TengenToppaGurrenLagann. * I once downloaded Starfox 64 on the Wii solely for "Do A Barrel Roll!" * This troper imported a copy of Zero Wing for this purpose. Surprisingly, the manual is stunningly well translated. ---Go back to WatchItForTheMeme, because you heard about it on YouTube. ----

WaterWorks * [[{{Tropers/Joerc45}} This troper]] is famous for this, and not afraid to admit it. When he was younger, he was an [[SailorMoon Usagilevel]] crybaby, and to this day, still is. It's very easy to make him cry, especially if you mean a lot to him. The slightest offense from a loved one, or witnessing the suffering of another person will cause him to break down in tears. T_T

** [[{{Tropers/FreeRadical}} This troper]] doesn't cry very much, but it's okay that you're sensitive. [[ManlyTears There's no shame in letting it out]], as there have been times when I've had it happen to me. For some reason though, my mom would think that I was just [[BrattyTeenageDaughter being a whiny]] [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative bitch]] who could [[YouFailBiologyForever turn the tears on and off like a switch]]. (Hey, [[RhymesOnADime that rhymes!]]) Trust me, I can't. I can't will myself into not crying - if I could, I wouldn't cry '''at all!''' (Or at least, not nearly as much). Now she has a problem with me not crying a lot. Now excuse me while I go off to [[SoulEater Mr. Corner]] and [[EmoTeen be emo]]! * [[{{Tropers/xxfirekirby94xx}} This troper]] freely admits that she is an extremely sensitive person. I cry ALOT, and quite easily too. For instance, whenever I get yelled at (whether by teachers, parents, or other family members) I will usually start tearing up--even in public. I can't seem to control myself, crying is kind of my way of dealing with stress and pressure. ** [[{{Tropers/Ventisia}} This Troper]] would like to second that. I'm really emotional, so I cry too easily. I hate it. I can't discuss anything that's bothering me without starting to blubber. My parents tend to get pissy if I cry, too, and I've usually calmed down to the point of anger or coldness once I'm alone, to the point where I'm not really just able to let it all out with a good cry, which I think would help sometimes.

Wipe your tears and return to {{Water Works}} before you [[OcularGushers flood the place.]]

WaveOfBabies * Once, to advertise the movie ''NightWatch'', [[{{Haven}} this troper]]'s Sci-Fi Club received, among other things, a bunch of dolls of those baby-spider things from the movie. Naturally, the thing to do was to create a photo-shoot of a wave of them rolling over us; there is still a picture of me surrounded by them with one perched on my chest. -----Let the tide of tots carry you back to WaveOfBabies. <<|TroperTales|>>

WaxingLyrical * [[Tropers.ReikoKazama I]] do this quite a bit. I recently quoted Paramore's newest single "Careful" as such, complete with lampshading: --> '''Reiko-chan:''' You can't be too careful any more. When all that is waiting for you won't come any closer, you've got to reach a little more. [''[[{{Beat}} pause]] as the FridgeLogic kicks in''] [[WaxingLyrical Waxing]] [[LampshadeHanging Lyrical...]]

* This troper's uncle is a master at this. He once exploded an interviewee's claim to like TheBeatles' music by going into a reminiscent monologue consisting of the lyrics to ''Getting Better'', with no recognition, and also gave a congratulatory speech at a graduation ceremony by deadpanning the lyrics to Queen's ''We Are The Champions''. * This is ''really'' fun to do in real life. This troper is a fan of some... rather obscure musicals, as is one of her classmates. We've had entire conversations comprised solely of ''[[TanzDerVampire Tanz]]'' quotes, usually culminating in Herbert Hands. Unfortunately, this has backfired recently when this classmate didn't expect me to ''actually'' kiss her hand, and I ended up looking like a solitary [[SchoolgirlLesbians schoolgirl lesbian]]. * Go up to any group of people and say {{Jem}} is outrageous. ** Acording to TheNostalgiaChick, this same effect can be achieved with "You remind me of the babe." ** What babe? *** The babe with the power. *** What power? **** The power of voodoo. **** Who do? **** You do. ** See? * A favorite pastime of this troper. At any party hes at, whether he wants to or not, he will utter the phrase, "I don't feel like dancing. No sir, no dancing today." Another frequently use example is: ** Friend: How far are you? ** Me: Oh, I'm halfway there. * In the same vein, anyone who says they're halfway there is met with the phrase "Are you living on a prayer?" ** I do the same thing. * This troper does this all the time. It helps that she likes very obscure bands, so she can usually get away with it. However, sometimes she throws in a popular song for the heck of it. {{Hilarity Ensues}}. * It is fairly too easy to build in the german Digimon soundtrack into forum-talks. Same for Disney movie songs. * Two recent examples from my work; a drunk patron was being escorted out at closing time told a receptionist that he loved her, she asked why and he said he didn't know, several nearby staff sang in unison "He loves you and he don't know why." The other involves a female coworker asking for advice whether she should coax her boyfriend of 3 years into proposing or to remain happy with the relationship as it is. When she asked my adive she got, "If he likes it then he should put a ring on it, oh-oh-oh". * Collected on the Internet: -->'''A:''' Remember Osborne books? They had a series called (something like) "Mysteries of the Unexplained". One volume contained a picture of Black Shuck, a slavering one-eyed dog that used to scare the bejeesus out of me. -->'''B:''' [[http://www.flamingwhopper.com/thedarkness.php?page=lyricsShow&id=1 That dog don't give a f-]]

-->'''C:''' Get out. * [[DaNuke Da_Nuke]] knows a friend who loved quoting Joaqun Sabina's "Most Beautiful Song in the World" to his girlfriend. It ''worked'' because the song ''is'' ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. * A friend of this troper's named Alice is [[NeverHeardThatOneBefore very, very sick]] of introducing herself and getting "Alice? Who the fuck is Alice?" * This troper and his friend once had an entire conversation consisting of nothing but song lyrics (with quite a diverse range of artists as well--we must've done everyone from Fats Domino to TheBeatles to * NSYNC to Katy Perry), much to the chagrin of our other friend (who, ironically, wants to go into singing and yet has positively no musical knowledge outside of Daughtry and whatever else is on the radio (whooa-oh-oh-oh,on the radio)). It got to the point where she got up yo leave. We tried to get her to stay...in SONG LYRIC RECITING!! :-D (Yeah,she's no fun.) * This troper enjoys replying to comments of "Ass" with [[SystemOfADown Yes, I'm selling ass for heroin. I'm looking for some help, I need some one to save my ass.]] * This troper remembers a coworker on lunch break complaining about trying to find a plastic knife and only finding lots and lots of forks. So of course I had to ask if he'd also recently [[IsntItIronic met the man of his dreams, then met his beautiful wife]]. And I haven't gotten to do it yet, but I've decided that if anyone ever tells me "I had an awesome dream", the proper response would be [[http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858608036/ "People in the park playing games in the dark?"]] * I like doing this on occasion when I run [[TabletopGames tabletop RPGs]]. I've had more than one demonic NPC introduce himself as "a man of wealth and taste". * [[ShadicTheHedgehog This troper]] has, several times, heard a song for maybe the first or second time and started singing along. Sure, he didn't know the words, but he ''sang them right anyway!'' Kinda creeps him out sometimes. * [[PippinTheMercury I]] do this all the time, to the point where I sometimes don't even realize I'm doing it. I'm fond of announcing my presence by saying, "Here we are now", and then quietly adding "Entertain us" (quietly because generally no one cares to hear the {{Nirvana}} reference). I'm also fond of speaking in song titles, as well as randomly saying lines from songs as though I really mean them; two favorites of mine are [[TheBeatles "Man, you should have seen them kicking]] EdgarAllanPoe!" and [[ThePixies "I am]] [[UnChienAndalou un Chien Andalousia!"]] (Of course, I'm [[CloudCuckooLander rather weird]], so [[WeirdnessCoupon people expect this sort of thing from me.]]) * [[{{Tropers/Cameoflage}} This troper]] occasionally engages in it herself (although I'm not so good at sneaking them into normal conversation), and I also have a character who speaks ''exclusively'' in song lyrics, since she's TheOphelia (also a WaifProphet) and I liked the idea of using that for her obligatory [[TalkativeLoon crazy person]] [[StrangeSyntaxSpeaker weird speaking habits]]. Often the other characters in the scene join in, which annoys my character (it's

a bit of a DudeNotFunny for her) but amuses me. -->'''My Dad:''' You've got yourself stuck in a moment. -->'''Me:''' And I can't get out of it. ** Was it bad for your health? * This troper loves this. So much, that in a theatre-like subject in college, each student had to create a character - and his was a madman, who only spoke through song lyrics. In the improvisation that ensued as final presentation, he acted as "background music" (causing severe laughter in the audience at least twice, with "Keep It Coming Love" and "[[OminousLatinChanting Lower Norfair]]/[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQCZIb0fbt8 Magmoor]]" and his classmates don't even know {{Metroid}}!). * [[{{Ptitlepgy6ymio}} This troper's]] first name is Joe. On Facebook, a friend greeted me with "Hey Joe!" My response mixed two song references (in an odd, word-association kind of way): "I swear I don't have a gun." [[spoiler: In case you missed the references: [[JimiHendrix "Hey, Joe, where you going with that gun in your hand?"]], [[{{Nirvana}} "And I swear that I don't have a gun."]]]] * This troper's college professor slipped into this while discussing a short story and losing his train of thought: --> '''Professor:''' So, how did we get here? Letting the days go by...let the water hold me down...water flowing underground... --> '''Student:''' Into the blue again, after the money's gone? --> '''Professor:''' Once in a lifetime, same as it ever was. * I was helping do security for a show, and we had gotten word that the barrier in front of the stage was going to consist solely of saw horses and caution tape: -->'''Crew Member 1:''' I hope they're at least police saw horses... -->'''Crew Member 2:''' What's the difference? -->'''Crew Member 1:''' They're sturdier... -->'''Supervisor:''' Eh, a horse is a horse, of course, of course. * Done by [[@/{{MiraShio}} me]] quite a lot, most commonly with "Sorry, Sorry" by SuperJunior. * When asked the time "It's gotta be close to midnight" is the usual answer among a certain group of friends. ** Or else you can come back with, "Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?" * You'd be amazed at how many opportunities there are to quote 'Still Alive' there are in any given Laboratory Biology class. * A friend of this troper rarely listens to music, so this is commonly done to him by me. In fact, I recently sent him an e-mail with part of Queen's The Show Must Go On in it (I decided to let him know which song it was, just in case he didn't get the reference). He has his own sort of payback by saying "Spess Mahrens, we have failed the Emperor" in a very silly voice almost all day on Wednesdays. EVEN THOUGH HE HAS NEVER PLAYED DAWN OF WAR! * Once, a friend of mine was asking for advice on a problem. I'm horrible at this stuff, so I just shrugged and said "Accept that the waters around you have grown?" * My mother and I sometimes have full conversations in lyrics. And I sometimes also just speak in lyrics at school... oh, and and when I wrote a film based on Alice in Wonderland, the Mad Hatter occasionally

went into these trances in which he'd only speak in lyric. * This Troper's school had a pair of candidates for a student government position announce at the end of their speech that, if elected, they were never gonna give us up, never gonna let us down, never gonna run around and desert us. Then one of them pulled an iPhone out of his pocket, held it up to the microphone and hit "play." They [[RickRoll Rickrolled]] ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome the entire school!]]'' * This trope seems to be associated with crazy people. Not really enough (or enough in widely-known fiction rather than tropers' unpublished personal projects, anyways) for me to put it on the main page, but I count three insane fictional lyric-speakers on this page, including [[{{Tropers/Cameoflage}} my]] own contribution, and I know of a fourth: I never saw the character in play, but a friend of mine once played a [[VampireTheMasquerade Malkavian]] who spoke only in lyrics. * Once my friend joke-threatened to kill my other friend, and held up a fist. Friend 2 squeaked, "Ah! I don't wanna die!" I stared at her for a moment and slowly said, "...Sometimes wish I'd never been born at allll..." Then we started shouting ALL of Bohemian Rhapsody. * Once, after [[{{Tropers/Pikachukid}} my]] glasses had been cleaned, I was asked if I could "see clearly now". Without missing a beat, I responded "The rain has gone". Unfortunately, I was in the vicinity of several co-workers who were notorious for either singing horribly to pop songs they liked, quoting pop culture ad nauseam or being annoyed by both of the preceding. Cue FacePalm. * Since I learned Enlgish with mostly songs, this is bound to happen from time to time. --->Friend: What day is today? --->Me: Today could be the best day of your life... ** And the same thing happens in my mother language: ---> Anyone: Hace calor (It's hot in here). ---> Me: gorillaz... * [[Tropers/AirOfMystery I]] am contractually incapable of hearing the phrase "Here I am" without finishing it with "rock you like a hurricane". * This troper recently did this at a year meeting. --> '''Teacher''': Can we kill the lights? Can someone kill the lights? --> '''Me''' *singing* : [[TheBirthdayMassacre And put on a show, it's all a lie, but you'd never know.]] * This tropette managed to fit in Best Of You by Foo Fighters due to her teacher mentioning it in her commerce class. I sang it...Does TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COUNT! but I do generally do this A LOT! * This troper's friend is called Jude. Yes, this troper recited the lyrics to [[TheBeatles Hey, Jude]] when Jude ended up with an ungodly amount of holiday homework. Keep in mind that this is not a good idea if you're ever trying to actually cheer up a person named Jude, as they've [[NeverHeardThatOneBefore likely gotten sick of people reciting that song to them.]] If she had a different name [[VitriolicBestBuds this troper would have likely found another way to 10% console/90% tease her that would have gotten this troper a just-

as-hard smack on the head.]] * This troper once had the following conversation with a friend. --> '''Him''': It's my life. --> '''Me''': "[[BonJovi And it's now or never]]" or "and you'll do what you want"? --> '''Him''': And it's now or never, obviously. ** I was expecting "and I ain't gonna live forever". * This tropers' mom... Unfortunately. For any Christmas carol song that comes on, or Bruce Springstein songs or any {{RENT}} song... wait, I take that back. Just "Seasons of Love". Or the word rent in the song "Rent". * My mom or [[{{Tropers/Squidage}} me]] tend to do this while driving...We've gotten weird looks from people too. . [[FreakyIsCool Though we always get those anyway.]] * This troper was once involved in an RP (in a rather bog standard military science fiction setting) with somebody who had a character called Major Frederick Thomas. My character, a psychotic arms dealer, was trying to kill him while mocking him, and this came up: --> '''My character''': I'll be sure to tell your wife you love her very much! --> '''[[DavidBowie Major Tom]]''': She ''knows''! --> ''My character detonates a bomb, damaging Major Tom's communications equipment'' --> '''Off-screen radio operator''': Ground control to Major Tom, your circuit's dead, there's something wrong! Can you hear me, Major Tom? --> . . . Yeah. ** You win at everything. * If I hear anybody, at any time, in any situation and context, mention the color dark blue, I will always interuppt to ask [[JacksMannequin "Have you ever been alone in a crowded room?"]]. My friends are starting to get pretty sick of this. Not that I care, of course. * A conversation between a friend and [[{{Pikachukid}} myself]]: --> '''Friend:''' (after asking question) Yes? No?\\ '''Self:''' [[TheyMightBeGiants Maybe]]...[[MalcolmInTheMiddle I don't know]]. [[TemptingFate Can you repeat the question?]] * Once in a history class, we were split into groups for a debate about the Corrupt Bargain. I volunteered to be my group's speakerand proceeded to plead our case by reciting the first verse of TheBeastieBoys' "Sabotage". * Same troper: I also am fond of "[[TheBeatles I don't mind, I think they're crazy]]". (This may possibly be my favorite trope.) * [[{{rimokina}} This troper]] makes some sort of {{gorillaz}} reference everyday, no matter what I always manage to fit it in. For example, in one of my classes we have to create a country and we have to name our landmasses (example, ''pacific'' ocean) and I'm naming all of mine either after one of [[{{gorillaz}} their]] songs or lyrics of their songs. * [[@/{{Seiryu}} This troper]] has a good friend who's a dancer, but hates the fact that people think he's gay because of it. My recommendation? [[MenWithoutHats "You can dance if you want to. You can leave your friends behind. Cause your friends don't dance, and if

they don't dance, well they're no friends of mine."]] ** Also subverted on occasion. A few days ago, I met a girl named Delilah, and started singing the Plain White Ts song. I got four words in when she stopped me, told me that she's a fairly advanced martial artist, and that if I finished the sentence, she would not be held responsible for what would happen to me. * [[{{Shiarrael}} This troper]] is a member of a number of role playing boards and gets quite a kick out of naming her role playing scenes after songs or quoting certain songs while in character. It's even more fun when no one catches on. * Once in a while I like to go to the formspring accounts of people I know and ask them a question that is actually a song lyric. In one case it was "Have you ever met a girl that you tried to date, but a year to make love she wanted you to wait?". He didn't get the reference (or was just feeling snarky) and said he refused to answer questions that rhymed. So then I rephrased it as "Have you ever met a young woman who you attempted to have regular social appointments with, but she wanted you to wait a year before you could have sexual relations with her?". This time, the answer was "No". * Once when talking with a therapist, he asked whether I had a girlfriend. My response? "Naw. [[{{Jay-Z}} I got 99 problems, but that ain't one.]]" (I do have more respect for girls than to use "bitch".) * A cousin once used Guns N' Roses' "Civil War" in a speech assignment. * A friend of mine was named Maria. Naturally, rarely could she introduce herself without [[TheSoundOfMusic being serenaded by someone]]. Finally fed up, she told me that if one more damn person sings to her she's packing her bags and leaving town. I promptly responded with, [[AllTimeLow "I've got your picture and I'm coming with you."]] * [[{{Tropers/Cryolemon}} This Troper]] does this quite a lot, but often gets an odd look due to using obscure songs that no-one else in the conversation has ever heard of, let alone heard. * [[Tropers/KamuiValentine This Troper]] tends to speak only in song quotes since she has a lot of trouble speaking. This tends to result in a lot of [[GratuitousForeignLanguage odd moments]] when she says anything. * [[@/{{Pastylover2}} This troper]] does this a lot. Just this week he has used [[{{Queen}} I'm in Love with My Car]] and [[TheyMightBeGiants Whistling in the Dark]] in normal conversation. * This troper and his friends camping on a fairly strict site. A little bit merry. His friend gets a magazine and indicates that he proposes we build a campfire (which will get us kicked off the site). Another friend says, "You can't start a fire!" This troper: "You can't start a fire without a spark. This gun's for hire, even if we're just dancing in the dark." * Anyone who has a friend (or several friends, but it's always that same repeat offender) whose Facebook status updates primarily consist of song lyrics, raise your hand. My friends are mostly choir people, so they do this frequently, and when it's a song that I don't know (it's always an angsty song, too), it sometimes leads me to wonder if they're just quoting something, or if I should be genuinely concerned.

* This troper has an absurd number of songs memorized, and he tries to do this at every opportunity. For example, I was talking to my sister about a classmate who thought that she was lesbian. This conversation started with "[[TheKillers Well, somebody told me that you had a boyfriend who looked like a girlfriend.]]" This, naturally, was immediately followed by "[[ARareSentence I never expected ]][[IAlwaysWantedToSayThat to use that particular ]][[LampshadeHanging line.]]" Also, he says "Forfeit the game" or "You can't run the race, the pace is too fast, you just won't last" (Points of Authority, by Linkin Park) when winning games too often. * Approximately at least 50-70% of [[@/{{Sen}} my]] dialogue tends to be WaxingLyrical quotes or {{Shout Out}}s that only I get. And when I'm writing, it tends to go completely off the scale. At least I usually include characters who lampshade it. * I used to do this all the time as a kid, to the point that my mother would make me stop singing because I would constantly sing the wrong lyric. I don't do it as much anymore, but whenever I sing in a different language, the words are usually a slurred form of the actual word, because [[{{Malaproper}} I find it difficult to pronounce it correctly]], especially if I'm singing by ear. * This troper's only notes from when he learned about [[BodyHorror bot flies]] in biology class: [[LinkinPark Crawling in my skin, these wounds they will not heal]]. In fact, his biology notes probably have that song's lyrics written ten times as a result of this kind of thing. Biology is not for the faint of heart. * Anytime this Troper wants to change the subject in a conversation, he quotes GlaDOS' song "Still Alive" by saying, "Anyway, this cake is great" ---[[WaxingLyrical Get back!]] * When 'you coming home, son? ** I don't know when, but we'll get together then, son. We'll get together right then. <<|TroperTales|>>

WeakButSkilled * This troper was a huge NeverwinterNights player back in the day, and I trained one of my friends how to be really good at it too (good as in, I invented some of the tactics the community would later use.) At one point we hung around on a pvp-centric server for a while and absolutely dominated every battle we were in with ease - we lost a grand total of twice in several weeks of play. To make things more interesting, we continually played weaker and weaker characters... and eventually wound up winning against six enemy players at once, as a duo of BARDS. * Back when ''[[MobileSuitGundam Mobile Suit]] GundamSEEDDestiny'' was on air, as part of a none-too-well thought-through reaction to the sheer ability gap between the named characters and the faceless grunts, [[GentlemensDame883 this troper]] attempted to write a fanfic where the protagonist, for all intents and purposes just an average

{{Mook}}, put himself through TrainingFromHell both in and out of the cockpit. This led to said protagonist being able to hold his own with a grunt suit against "true" recognized {{Ace Pilot}}s who were using {{Super Prototype}}s or Ace Customs. However, it was found via FridgeLogic that this trope became self-subverting, as eventually the protagonist had trained to the point where he was reacting faster than the grunt suit could and was making twitch maneuvers the grunt suit could not replicate closely enough, making said suit prove inadequate for the task when combined with enemies pulling out increasingly {{Bigger Stick}}s. Fortunately for the protagonist, he had a friend who pulled strings and got him an Ace Custom of his own. ** That's just what an Ace Custom pilot is, even most of Char Aznable's early mobile suits weren't ''that'' much better than what was mass produced. You also have to consider, the {{Super Prototype}}s are usually limited to the major characters because they're too difficult for anyone but a skilled Ace or superhuman to pilot, at least that's what they say [[InformedAbility within the context of the show]], some of the Gundams from [[GundamWing Wing]] and [[GundamSEEDDestiny SEED Destiny]] are just [[GameBreaker walking Death Stars]] that rarely need to show off any of the pilot's alleged "[[SuperpowerLottery skill]]". *** No, [[GratuitousFrench non]], [[GratuitousGerman nein]], I think what he's trying to say is that the character's skill got to a point where his mech's lack of so-to-speak power ends up holding him back and hampering him. Ergo, the need to progress in power too. **** Yeah. No matter how good a pilot you are, there will eventually come the point where the machine cannot keep up and the machine will need to be changed (via upgraded parts or a full replacement) to something that can. Amura in the RX-78 had this problem. * This troper has met several skilled martial artists who are fairly small and physically unimposing. How well they do in an actual fight is up for debate. ** As a compact sized martial artist, I assert that we tend not to fight in the first place. If we do, though, it depends a lot on what style we go for. A small Muay Thai dude can do serious damage but a small Judoka will probably be at a disadvantage. The best all-around choice tends to be the traditional Chinese styles that emphasize internal force (Pakuazhang, Hsing-i, Taijiquan, Liuhebafa, and some Shaolin variants). Incidentally, these styles are also a good option [[BadassGrandpa elderly]] martial artists. Mind you, these take longer to get good at than most "harder" styles and are absolutely useless unless taught properly. ** This troper knew a guy in her capoeira class who was fairly short and extremely skinny (I could easily pick him up - and for the record, I'm a 107-lb female), but was also the most skilled and dangerous fighter in the class when he was being serious. [[MusclesAreMeaningless]]? ** In my karate class, they specifically told me I was doing a certain technique wrong, saying that the way I was doing it, it would only work on someone smaller than me (like the skinny teenage black belt I was practicing it on) but the way it's supposed to be done, size doesn't matter much.

* This troper is one of these... if by 'skilled' you mean 'an endless fount of completely useless trivia'. * This troper knows a guy from his judo class who can barely bench press 30kg, but has perfected the art of getting under people's feet and ''surviving a head-on impact with a car''. * This troper tends towards being weaker due to a lack of mass, but picks up a lot of varied skills. * This troper weighs 150 pounds, and can personally attest that it is completely possible to fling someone over twice your weight like a ragdoll with enough practice and good technique. Stereotypical as it sounds, it's all leverage. You'll never do it against someone just standing there, and the classic Judo over the shoulder throw is strongly contraindicated, but once anyone's off balance, it takes very little to topple them, regardless of size. * This troper has done martial arts for over a decade, and has competed in plenty of tournaments. She can attest that it's the scrawny ones you have to watch out for. If they're sparring in her division, they're usually incredibly well-trained, and they're almost always ''[[TheNapoleon angry.]]'' Little spitfucks. * This troper can attest that in boxing, people like this can be a pain to go up against. However, it's almost as bad being on the other end. At extreme levels of this trope, every single opponent you will ever have will seem like a MightyGlacier or LightningBruiser, and it takes precisely one mistake to end up floored. Oh, and you're probably going to be exhausted after the first few minutes. Scenarios like this are why this troper just gave up and went into fencing. * This troper, a former competitive swimmer, is ''very'' short and has the worst possible proportions for a swimmer. Additionally, I am completely talentless when it comes to sports. Even so, I became one of the best butterfly swimmers in the London region by putting myself through TrainingFromHell and perfecting my technique as much as possible. (Compare to my competition, who were all highly talented and trained half as much as I did, or less.) * This troper is, sort of, not when compared to the average, standing 6'3" and 240lbs, and I am naturally strong, but I would be, if I were slim, only about 160lbs, and as a sometime Boxer and Judoka, those in my weight class have usually about 70lbs of actual muscle on me, but I was still quite successful, I have done Martial Arts of one form or another since I was 4, My arms are incredibly long, the only person to have equaled my reach was 6' 8", and as I am essentially a wiry bugger in a fat-suit, I have outlasted and out-sped my opponents, and beat them on points, whilst still, due to my mass, having the ability to hit fairly hard, and also have the ability to soak up a lot of damage. ---Go back to WeakButSkilled, and don't let your total inability to scratch the Pwnbot [[MemeticMutation 9001]] prevent you from defeating it! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

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* [[Tropers/{{Edmania}} My]] girlfriend likes these kinds of boys because she finds them extremely cute. Bonus points for her if they are [[WholesomeCrossdresser traps]] who regularly cause others to be mistaken about [[DroppedABridgetOnHim their sex]]. She likes to [[TheGlomp hug me a lot]] because of my soft skin and [[{{Biseinen}} bishie-ness]] as well as my submissive personality. >_> But then; she doesn't necessarily like ''weak'' people (like for example; ones that are insecure and can't do anything for themselves) but rather innocent-looking gentle pretty boys who let her take care of them like children. She also personally does not understand why in fiction (and sometimes, in RealLife) AllGirlsWantBadBoys since it contradicts her opinion. Other people sometimes seem to be weirded out because she's rather feminine herself (although not submissive) to the extent of where her classmates sometimes think she needs to "get a real social life" to be "accepted by others" as opposed to something she would actually enjoy. ** I think you're describing traits of shota-ness about yourself there rather than weaknesses. ** That's what I was thinking. ** I can't tell if this guy is saying his girlfriend has maternal qualities, or she likes having sex with children... *** I think it's both only she found a "safe" outlet. * [[Tropers/{{Liangnui}} I]] happen to be very attracted to these kinds of men. Though I really don't understand why, and I have yet to find one I have the guts to actually approach. This is probably due to my utter inexperience with relationships in general, though... * I find these kind of guys cute. * I love {{Bishonen}} and I find myself attracted to {{Adorkable}}, cute and {{Moe}} guys. * I always was attracted to these kind of guys, ever since I was a little kid (thanks to my fangirl crush on [[{{Doug}} Doug Funnie]] as a child.) * This troper's current girlfriend. ''So very much.'' [[FetishFuel And he likes her back for it.]] * In a WarriorCats RP plot explained more on the TroperTales/BettyAndVeronica page, the Veronica's attracted to the Archie because she views him as cute and protectable, even if he's a formidable fighter on his own (she's still stronger). * I [[strike:kind of like]] ''love'' guys like this, mostly because they bring out my inner [[MamaBear mom]] that wouldn't come out with a more 'dominant' guy. Granted, I don't have a boyfriend, and I'm not worried about finding a guy just yet, but I have a ''[[HeIsNotMyBoyfriend friend]]'' who's [[{{Adorkable}} goofy]], [[NiceGuy sweet]] and whom [[ShipperOnDeck my mom]] thinks [[EveryoneCanSeeIt will possibly become her son in law]]. [[{{Tsundere}} (We'll see)]]. * This troper finds nothing hotter than a tortured soul. * This troper ''loves'' these kinds of guys. Not to say that "manly men" are necessarily a turn-off, but she finds the shy, introverted kind to be sweet and genuinely endearing.

WeAllLiveInAmerica * This troper was talking to an American friend on MSN and we talked about new ideas. She said that she's a bit uneasy about change and all. I then asked her if she's a bit 'conversative' (with its original meaning of "opposing change or innovation"). She responded that she's not really conservative; her family is more liberal. That left me puzzled until I read the main page of this trope. * On a fine November Thursday evening, I asked an online friend if he knew anyone who enjoyed "day-after-Thanksgiving" sales, to which he responded that "Thanksgiving was last month." I'm in the United States; he's in Canada. ---Go back to WeAllLiveInAmerica, which is totally like a Troper Tales page, except with different colors.

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---Back to [[{{Main/WeAreAsMayflies}} We Are As Mayflies]], and quickly, for tomorrow we may die. <<|TroperTales|>>

WeaselMascot * This troper has almost accidentally invoked this trope onto the TASVideos website with his video encode logos, which end up being relatively widespread. Luckily, this seems to be an [[AvertedTrope Averted Trope]], due to the fact that other encoders picking up the slack that I've been leaving around and removing the ubiquity of the logo. Quite a few examples of the logos can be [[http://flurret.net/logos.html found here]]. How do I know people think it's a mascot? I've had enough people come up to me and ask about it to make me think "How could a Ferret carrying a watermelon possibly represent a site dedicated to Tool-assisted speedruns."

WeDontSuckAnymore * Heh, this was a recurring joke in this troper's high school football team. We were that horrible, but because I was in the marching band, I had to sit through each game. Whenever were we actually in the lead, me and some of my friends would chant "We don't suck! We don't suck!" until other people yelled at us. Although when we actually won one of those games, we almost got the entire band chanting it. * [[@/JohnnyBGoode This troper's]] high school football team is well known for being the most overhyped and likely to lose team in the area. Whenever we actually win a game, there's usually a lot of people having these moments.

WeHaveThisISwear This happened to me once. * I ''swear''. * Happens to me all the time at work. We ''had'' that item until someone cleaned out the last of them five minutes ago!

WeHaveWaysOfMakingYouTalk * I had a teacher once who once, for some reason related to class scheduling or something, declared, "Ve haff vays of making you schedule your time!" * This Troper will occasionally say "Ve haff vays of making you talk... Zo, how 'bout dis veather?" ** [[EngagingConversation I love you.]] * "Don't make me come over there" * "Ve haff of mehking yu tick... vot yu mean 'Zat doesn't vork'? Off course it vorks. Ve make zem tick, und sooner or later zey must tock!" ---We have ways of making you go back to WeHaveWaysOfMakingYouTalk

WeirdAlEffect * I once went to a church party where one activity was to use hints to guess the name of a pop culture character you're assigned to. My character was {{Zorro}}, but I guessed [[{{Quick-DrawMcGraw}} El Kabong]] before that. * Most of Weird Al's song are some variation of the Weird Al Effect for me. I either don't know what he's parodying or assume its a parody until I'm told its a pastiche (or original). If not for "White N Nerdy" I definitely would have heard of Ridin' Dirty (I don't even know if that;s the correct title.) * Personally, I hope this happens to that song by The Killers, replacing "I got soul but I'm not a soldier." with BillBailey's alternative lyrics: "I got ham but I'm not a hamster." * Being an internet meme geek, this troper knows "Dragostea Din Tei" as its original, Romanian form. Unfortunately, my more "mainstream" pals only know any and all of the "English" versions or English songs that ripped off the chorus. And, of course, they think I'm weird when I listen to the original. ** A similar experience happened to [[{{LOLin8or}} this troper]], who tried to convince his friends that the song Gary Brolsma (the "Numa Numa" guy) was singing to was the original Dragostea Din Tei and not a Mariah Carrey (I think) song that ripped off the chorus. [[{{CriticalResearchFailure}} Apparently they didn't listen to the vid closely enough...]] * I have a Weird Al Effect with YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries. I never watched YuGiOh, only TheAbridged series, and all I can conclude is that Duel Monsters is a big game of {{Calvinball}} with cards. ** [[{{Unhari}} This Troper]] would like to second the previous Troper's statement. And, for the record, there weren't actual rules until the second series, so the first series '''was''' a giant game of

Calvinball with cards. * This Troper had something of a WeirdAlEffect with ''Hey There, Delilah.'' Until a few weeks ago, she knew the original only by name, but hadn't heard the real lyrics. She had, however, heard the much better written ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxScTbIUvoA Hey There,]] [[HPLovecraft Cthulhu]]''. * It's gotten so bad for [[Tropers/LimeTH This Troper]] that he can immediately recgonize a song he's never heard before by it's Weird Al parody and obtained all his knowledge of Star Wars (which he has never seen) from parodies, like RobotChicken. * Being a meme geek, I knew about the song "You Spin Me Round"(luckily, mostly from YoutubePoop and not the... more [[ShockSite disturbing use of the song]]) Most of my classmates only knoew the song as its horrible remixed version. The same thing with Leekspin and the song: most of them only knew it from the "Holly Dolly" remix. * [[{{shamgar001}} This Troper]] didn't know the song "Louie, Louie" until just recently. Up until now, I've only known the Bible-school parody "Pharaoh, Pharaoh". * [[@/{{Tadaru}} This troper]] heard "The Saga Begins" many times before listening to "American Pie", so now the latter sounds like it's the parody to him. * This troper has actually had to explain to people that "White & Nerdy" DIDN'T come out first. Same for several other Weird Al songs, and NOT just for ones parodying decades-old songs. My peers not knowing "American Pie" or "MacArthur Park" is one thing, but when they don't realize that "White & Nerdy", "Canadian Idiot" or (for fuck's sake) "You're Pitiful" are parodies is unforgivable. * Some of the anime that this troper now watches and some of the songs she listens to are because of AMVHell. For example, I started watching the anime HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi because of that one clip where Rika [[spoiler: stabs herself in the neck]] to the song "What Is Love". * A conversation with my friend: --> '''Me''': ...and I'd get one of those fake Groucho Marx glasses. --> '''Friend''': What glasses? --> '''Me''': You know, those giant nerd glasses with the big nose and really big Hitler mustache. --> '''Friend''': Who the hell is Groucho Marx? --> '''Me''': Um, a comedian. One of the Marx brothers. Harpo, Chico, Groucho...Zeppo... --> '''Friend''': You mean those glasses are based on an ''actual'' person?

WeirdAside * This Brazilian troper, during a conversation on soft drinks, mentioned, fully aware of the effects, one particular soft drink that he "really enjoyed when he was in Amazonas (the Brazilian state), on the run from Colombia". ---You know, this time, after I returned to WeirdAside, I was a bit late for my date with that girl I met, so I jumped on a dimensional vortex

to go back in time and hail a cab 30 minutes before. And the cabbie I got had no idea how to get to the address, so... What are you staring at? Is there something in my teeth? ----

WeirdMoon * Had dream where I was somehow falling towards the moon. Which had this one giant infected eye that was held open with its eyelashes which were apparently also stitches. Then I landed in this chair and talked to this guy (doknt remember what we talked about though) that had the exact same kind of eye. All I know is that it is somehow related to Cerebus, because it feels like that was somehow related to it. * I once had a nightmare where the moon fell on me when I was 6. * I was once at a pool party with some friends at night. As I sat admiring the moon, I realized that the current moon phase was impossible - the sun would need to be high in the sky for it to look like that. Then I realized it was a lunar eclipse in progress. * This troper was on her way back from prom with her date when she happened to look outside and see the very large looking moon. Having a little giggle to herself she nudged her date (also female)and pointed outside. She said, "Look at the moon! Tell your mom to drive faster! We only have 3 days!" in an obvious Majora's Mask reference. She didn't get it. * I had a dream that I was riding home and the moon was dark gold and crescent shaped. I thought that my dream showed me a harvest moon. * One summer the moon was full and orange-red. My dad told me that it was because my sister hadn't cleaned it up. * This troper's grandparents' house overlooks a backyard ending in a cliff which overlooks Lake Ontario. The moon often sits in the sky right over the lake, framed by the backyard's tall trees. Aside from a number of awesome bright orange "Harvest" moons over the years, there was a night when this troper and his cousin were watching ''AnAmericanWerewolfInLondon'' for the first time in the living room, and the full moon was so ridiculously bright through the picture window everything was casting distinct shadows. Amazing. ** The same troper was and his family were also on their way home from seeing Half-Blood Prince in 2009 when they noticed the quarter-moon was blood-red and about twice as large and twice as low as normal. It looked like Mars was on a collision course with Earth, and was even lit in a strange way that let us faintly, redly see much more of the Moon than normal for a quarter. When we got home there was a gigantic hawkmoth just sitting on the tree next to our porch, the only one this troper has ever seen in person. Weird night. * While editing the main page for this trope, this troper had something of a FridgeLogic moment regarding the example for Warhammer: if Morrslieb's lunar cycle is random, and Geheimnisnacht only happens once a year, ''and'' the lunar and solar years are both sychronised and the same length; how is the date of Geheimnisnacht not known? There are two months, straight after Sonnstille, the summer solstice, named "Before Mystery" and "After Mystery". Given that the inter-

calary days keep the first day of every month a Full Moon, and Geheimnistag is one such inter-calary day, there is (maybe) one night that could be geheimnisnacht, and that would be directly after 33 Vorgeheim... ** Same troper, having glanced out the window a couple of times typing the above entry... and seeing the moon out of the north window. I live in the northern hemisphere! That shouldn't be possible! * Quite a few times this troper has seen the moon out her window through the clouds. The effect is hard to describe. Imagine seeing the moon, really bright, through a tunnel made of smoke that's being light up by that same moon. Sometimes with opal and light purple and blue colors in the clouds. It's very surreal, especially since the troper is usually half asleep.

WeirdnessCensor * This Troper plans to test people's Weirdness Censor after his second annual Charity Zombie Walk by just going into [=McDonald's=] and getting food. * [[{{Tropers/Squidage}} This troper]] saw her grandmother trying to attach an empty coke can to a tree limb. No one looked or commented. It was bizarre even for me. * This Troper was in Reno, Nevada, a couple of years ago with her family when they walked past a drag queen in downtown Reno. * This troper once saw a pile of [=PCs=] outside a room in his school, supposedly heading for the skip. All I had to do was pick it up and carry it around ''all day'' whilst still attending lessons. Not a single teacher or person asked me what I was doing with it, they simply assumed that I must have had a good and valid reason for having it. I even heard a few days after that some teacher had said "Nobody would be that retardedly obvious in trying to steal a PC would they?" ** Happens a LOT, This troper knows two such stories. In one a tech walked out with a computer and no one stopped him because everyone assumed he was supposed to take it. In another, a thief was able to successfully rob all the vending machines in a Police Station! The police just assumed that anyone working on a vending machine had to be a repairman. You can get away with some frightening things if you can trigger people to "assume you belong there" ** Acting as if you belong somewhere will get you pretty far. It's harder than it looks, however, especially if you're completely new to a place. * Due to having some classes at the high school(I'm in middle school) I have a media assistant period every day just before lunch. I wake up very early, so I'm always very hungry by lunch, and the lines are horrible. So I simply leave the media center about a minute early every day. The lunch ladies and police officer are used to me, so I only have to watch out for the assistant principals. * Another Real Life Example: While volunteering at a hospital as a teenager, this troper found out that as long as you walked confidently and looked busy, nobody noticed the candy-striper checking out the surgical areas, which were normally off-limits. This has proven to be true in numerous other circumstances as well.

** This troper works with CCTV and door access systems and as such spends a lot of time in "secure" areas. If you walk around looking like you belong there and maybe carry something important looking nobody will ever stop and question you. *** This really should be placed in TroperTales: Bavarian Fire Drill. *** [[{{Tropers/Wheezy}} This troper]] has been a semi-pro photographer for three years. In what may be the highlight of his life, he was able to - by knowing the layout of the building where the event was taking place (he works there all the time), striding determinedly, and carrying a camera - sneak in a back door past SECRET SERVICE to get [[http://wheezy77.deviantart.com/art/President-97675866 this picture]]. He's done the same thing quite a few times at smaller events and concerts. * This troper knows a parkour enthusiast who likes to sit on top of tall walls and watch the world go by. He is rarely noticed except by children. When sitting on his favorite wall one day a little girl asked ''Do you ever come down from there?''. Firemen are the adults most likely to look up as they are sensitive to signs of people trapped in buildings. ** That's because most people never look up. Or over, for that matter. This troper liked to climb trees in high school, and there was this one very tall tree right outside the library. No amount of waving arms, shouting, or throwing things at the windows could attract her studious friends' attention. Though, admittedly, the library was on the third floor. *** Agreed. This applies in real life (though less so any more, apparently. Check the statistics for military recruitment about spacial awareness). This troper has managed to get away with things that never should have occurred simply by seeming to belong. Or by being somewhere no-one expects, and thus never looks. * More boring example- high school. You can go anywhere in the halls during class without actually having a pass as long as you walk quickly(but not too quickly!) and look straight ahead. ** Subverted. Got out of trouble in high school for being where I should not be by being friends with the janitors and secretaries and other support staff. * [[{{Tropers/Mysterynovelist}} This troper]] was amazed to discover that no one considered taking a laptop that was just laying on the ground near the computer lab at the college where she goes to for her college prep program; in fact, she even saw someone walk ''right past it'' on their way to class. She took it. [[spoiler: [[BlessedWithSuck Unfortunately, the resident mentors found her with it later and decided that she should hand it over to the police.]]]] ** Another incident involved this troper's acquaintance, who said that he could get away with buying beer underage if he ''[[ just looked serious enough]]''. *** This Troper has done that before, having a beard while in high school helps, and he'd tagged along with his brother buying beer often enough that he didn't look out of place in the slightest. **** This young-looking Troper, despite being of legal age, would get ID'd going into clubs, but never in pubs, as a result of drinking the most unfashionable drink of all time among my age-group (Real Ale

BTW). * This troper loves to hangout in the gardens of a fancy Victorian manor turned local museum after closing time, she just loves hiding among the white statues of Greek gods, pretending she is in the past, and sitting in the rocking chairs on the porch to watch the modern world go by, yet no one notices her, not even the Mexican guys on their break from running a restaurant behind the museum. * This troper, as a child, once got up really early to go watch cartoons (as was his habit on Saturdays) watched a few hours of them then, when he heard his parents waking up, went up to their bedroom to wish his mother, Happy Birthday. '''Father:''' "What do you think of Mum's birthday present?" '''Troper:''' "What birthday present?" '''Father:''' "The colour T.V?" '''Troper:''' "What colour T.V?" '''Father:''' "The one you've just been watching ..." So much for children not having a WeirdnessCensor. * Radioactive Zombie - I give your "weird" car (this is all we get in San Jose) once glance and look away. It's probably some conscious effort to deny the driver any satisfaction of being stared at, not to mention I've seen things that make an acid trip look like a bland office cubicle. Your car ain't nothin' fancy, dawg. Nice color, though. * THIS IS A LONG ONE! In high school me and some friends went on a tour of the college. When we got back we realized that we still had to go to last period. Since we really didn't want to go to class (2 of us really hated our last class) we all decided to just skip and go hang out in town. On the way out we decided to walk as if we had a reason to be in the parking lot and kept the act going as we got in my car and drove out of the parking lot (our plan B was to explain that we were just going to Jessica's house to get her English book, which was originally the plan before we just decided to ditch). When we got to the store we went in and attempted to look like we weren't skipping class. We were all 17, so it wouldn't be hard to mistake us for a group of adults, our problem was that our parents could enter the store and catch us. We bought some energy drinks and sat in my car blasting the radio, then drove back to the school to get our stuff from our locker. Through this all we could've gotten in deep trouble with the school, our parents, and the police, but because we looked like we weren't doing anything wrong we got away with it (the teachers didn't even notice we were gone). * This troper's high school is like that. This troper ran around spinning a leek playing Ievan's polkka out of some not very loud speakers during her school's fun fair. Nobody noticed. * For a high school supposedly very strict about uniform, a surprising number of teachers are willing to ignore this troper, who regularly goes to school wearing Doc Martens instead of school shoes, goggles around her neck, blue thread plaited into her hair and a skull ring. I've even worn vampire fangs once. Nobody noticed until I accidentally spat them out. * People in Israel are so used to death, explosions and violence, that when a man got ran over by a car in a crowded highway, nobody even

bothered to leave their cars and help him until 2-3 minutes later. This editor was chatting with an Israeli during the 2006 IsraelLebanon war, when the Israeli signed off with "brb, rockets over my house". ** As a soldier who fought in said war (on the Israeli side), I can promise that the previous paragraph was over-dramatized. On the other hand, I did have more rocket-attack drills than either fire drills or earthquake drills in the last five years... ** Similarly, this troper was once drinking with an American friend in Westminster (the centre of government in London) when a policeman came to the pub door to order the patrons out due to a bomb scare. The American girl was somewhat surprised that everybody present calmly finished their drinks before walking out. *** Subverted in just plain stupidity? This troper has read scads of real-life stories where authorities say 'There is a danger' and people just dilly-dally, even if the danger is visible. **** This is London, bombs don't mean a thing. Snow, on the other hand, will bring the city to a halt. **** You miss the point: this is ''England'', where finishing your beer is infinitely more important than death or serious injury. **** Also, this is ''England'', where a mix of very little terrorism paranoia and a genuine faith in mundanity means that they probably assumed it was just a scare anyway. Having no real equivalent to the fear-mongering American right has left us in a state of mind where we're aware that we're too insignificant for a terrorist attack to involve us. ** Sounds like what ''this'' troper's seen during tornado warnings in the U.S. Midwest. People born in non-tornado regions freak out, while those native to Tornado Alley just glance outside to see if the sky looks bad enough to ''maybe'' whip up a snack they can take down to the cellar if the walls start vibrating. *** Californians behave similarly when faced with earth quakes, with the generally accepted response to a mild tremor being glance around the room to verify that nothing has fallen off of any shelves, and then go back to whatever they were doing before. **** As opposed to what? A mild earthquake lasts a few seconds. By the time you've connected "Oh hey, that's not a truck going by" the quake is over. ***** Bigger earthquakes, on the other hand, happen much less frequently and last longer, so they will attract notice. *** There's a particular reaction to hurricanes in this troper's hometown in the Golden Isles of Georgia. People in Savannah nail down everything, while Florida cities like Jacksonville and St. Augustine turn into ghost towns. Brunswick residents sit on the porch to enjoy the breeze, move inside when it starts to rain, and rake the lawn the next day. *** Must be a regional peculiarity in Florida. In this Florida native's experience, the only time people react to imminent hurricanes is if they're Category 4 or 5. On days when school has been canceled due to hurricanes, this troper's seen kids spending their day off school by playing in the local park. *** This resident of Tornado Alley agrees - at the start of spring the

past two years, the local newscasts are all about how 'bad' and 'horrible' this or that storm system will be while I'm like 'YAWN. Put my shows back on and get back to me when 18-wheelers are flying through the air.' *** This troper grew up about 300m from the border separating West and East Germany during the cold war, where it consisted only of a small river maybe 10m across, without any fences or such things. There was even a small pub where the kids could get ice cream. The only rule was not to swim to the other side, because of the mine field. People can get used to about everything. *** This resident of Fort Worth, [[EverythingIsBigInTexas Texas]] agrees with the original statement. When there are severe thunderstorms in the area, many people (including myself) react quite calmly; I'm actually the kind to run ''outside'' with a camera when a tornado warning is issued. On the other hand, this whole region grinds to a halt whenever there is ''any'' kind of wintry weather. *** This Grapevine, Texas troper knows that pain. Hail the size of baseballs, tornadoes, freak thunderstorms... it's perfectly normal. We have a drill for when the power goes out from a storm: grab the flashlights, candles, and play a game of Twister after running around outside for awhile. * This troper hails from Seattle, and once came across a man wandering down the street, singing loudly and drunkenly, with a feather boa round his neck and a ''real'' boa constrictor covering up his unmentionables, in broad daylight and no pride parade in sight. Meanwhile, directly across the street, two policemen were harassing this troper for truancy ''[[PoliceAreUseless on a school holiday.]]'' * In many college towns, if one sees, say, a guy walking around in a gorilla suit accompanied by a walking banana, it's just assumed that it's part of some fraternity prank. God help us if we really ''were'' to be invaded by gorillas and giant bananas. ** Who -would- want to pay attention to gorillas and giant bananas? Just don't make eye-contact and hope the weirdos go away. *** This troper lived on campus for 6 months before realizing every day before a big game, a man ran around in a gorilla costume for about two hours. I had to be told by my parents to notice anything was up since I had stopped noticing weird things after a week there. ** This troper, while walking through his campus, was passed by a [[McNinja Ninja]]. Nobody else batted an eye. Likewise, nobody at a [=McDonald=]'s glanced twice when two separate groups of people dressed in togas came in to get burgers. ** Especially true on Halloween, but the Halloween of 2008, right after the DarkKnight came out saw such an abundant amount of students dressed up as Jokers, Two-Faces, and (for the ladies) Harley Quinns that no one seemed cared after about the third death threat. This Troper put on a button down shirt and left enough buttons undone to leave the [[{{Superman}} top half of a red and yellow S symbol on a blue shirt.]]. No one noticed. [[{{Clark Kenting}} so that's how he does it!]] *** Since Halloween landed on a Sunday this year (note: 2010), we were allowed to wear our costumes to work on the Friday before. I decided to be a vampire this year because it was the cheapest and easiest

thing I could come up with. (I just needed the fangs, some nice shoes, and a button-up shirt; I already had the rest covered.) Just one customer commented on the fangs without being prompted. Afterward, a friend and I paraded around town while I was still donning full undead regalia. Not a single person so much as batted an eyelash unless they were prompted. It's a fair bet that the city would be doomed should vampires start invading in broad daylight. ** When this troper went to university in the late 80s, one Halloween he was with a friend who was dressed in a trench coat carrying a real Uzi.(He was supposed to be the Terminator.) We greeted the campus police in my dorm, who complimented the friend on his costume. The campus police then went up to "have a chat" with the two stoners in our dorm who were running around shooting people with brightly colored water pistols. ** One October, this troper's university had an odd-looking guy walking around campus dressed in all black with a George W. Bush mask. No one paid any attention to him; it turned out we should have when we found out [[http://www.stjohns.edu/about/news/items/pr_uni_070926c.news_item@dig est.stjohns.edu%2fabout_us%2fpr_uni_070926c.xml?context_date=4/2/2009 he'd brought a loaded gun to campus]] ** The day before Halloween '09, this troper saw a [[{{Bleach}} Soul Reaper]] at a Yoga class. A few years ago even when it wasn't Halloween, she saw people wearing ''Naruto'' Headbands to class. * Both the Japanese and New Yorkers - hell, any Urban dweller of a major city - are used to odd crazies. Especially the Japanese and Germans. ** True. While living in Stockholm this tropers has seen A) Four Italian men dressed as Superman B) Darth Vader in a bondage outfit. Neither of which caused comment or even a glance. ** This troper knows a related saying that "If you parked a tank/airplane/giant robot in the middle of Times Square, nobody would notice it after a week". ** This Troper's mother has encountered so many celebrities in NYC (she literally ran into one once) but she treats each encounter as if nothing special happened. In particular, Mom felt no need to tell This Troper and her family that we were walking right next to Brooke Shields until we had stopped into a nearby store to get some shopping done. ** The 2004 Republican Convention in New York produced a lot of weird protests in response, including a "Naked Protest" next to Madison Square Garden. Mayor Bloomberg laughed it off: [[CrowningMomentOfFunny "This is New York. Of course we had seven naked people on Eighth Ave. What's the question?"]] ** While visiting San Francisco, this troper saw (1) a man wearing all gold with gold paint all over his skin, (2) a man wearing all silver and again with silver paint all over his skin, and (3) a man painted silver with a funnel on his head a la Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz. All three were performing on sidewalks to sell [=CDs=]. All three were mainly ignored. *** This isn't really uncommon enough to be weird. Statue People are a dime a dozen in major cities. They also tend to be quite annoying.

*** If you want to talk a great example of a guy exploiting the weirdness censor look up the bush man on Fisherman's Wharf. He is a guy who hides behind a bush and stands next to the sidewalk and jumps out at people to startle them. He manages to pull this off very frequently in spite of that there are no shrubberies or planters anywhere near the sidewalk on the Wharf. * A Real Life example of an active Weirdness Censor would be when you dream. Fantastical, illogical and downright wrong events, places and people play out ignoring causality and the laws of nature yet while dreaming you'll rarely realize just how bizarre things are and deduce you're dreaming. ** And if you figure out that you're dreaming, you can control the dream... making it even weirder, such as when monkeys jump out of their own eyeballs in an attempt to drive your (dreamed) enemies insane. *** Example of levels of weirdness: a submarine surfacing in the Serpentine (a landlocked ornamental lake in the middle of a London park)would be very strange, but might not seem impossible (even though it is). A submarine's periscope poking up through the grass nearby, then moving off, creating a trench in the ground; another level of impossible. A rubber submarine constructed of tires on a concrete walkway fifty feet off the ground as an art installation? It gets burnt because no-one can accept it. ** Really? This troper can catch whenever he is dreaming. If everything is at least close to normal, he can't tell the difference. But the moment something weird happens, "Oh, this is a dream." That's when the fun begins, like mentioned above. * This troper has set up art installations in urban environments, and can attest that it's true. Also, people never look up. ** This really should be placed in TroperTales: Bavarian Fire Drill ** Actually in the general public's defense, most of the time such artwork won't be recognizable until it's (nearly) finished - so there's no obvious sign for most of the time that it's not authorized work. ** One [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocaching geocacher]] often wears a hard hat, safety orange vest with reflective stripes, and carries a clipboard while searching for hidden containers. Highly visible, yet what he's doing escapes notice. * This troper remembers hearing about an article that actually spoke of an experiment of the Weirdness Censor in NYC. Two guys locked a bike up, and then proceeded to try to steal it in various ways. Nobody noticed or did anything about it, even when they took a CUTTING TORCH to the lock, which involved OPENING A NEARBY STREET LAMP to power it. ** This is likely due to the audience inhibition effect ** This troper once lost the keys to his bike lock at night. Being GenreSavvy, he waited until the next day to buy a bolt cutter and retrieve it by force, knowing that when the street was full of shoppers and the police were present, he was most likely to go unnoticed. He did. * This troper, who attends a school where the non-geeks are the minority, knows this trope first hand, though for slightly different reasons than things being too weird - at her school, it's that

weirdness is normal. There's one girl who comes to school in cosplay outfits nearly every day. You can walk down the halls in a cape for no other reason than wanting to, and nobody will notice or care unless they make a passing comment about how cool it looks and go on with their routine. ** It's a cloak, actually. ** Where is this school, and how do I get in? * Not sure if this counts, but this troper sat right next to his social studies teacher, and would always fall asleep during movies. She never noticed, but the guy 3 rows ahead complained about my snoring. * In the town where this troper used to live, there were two very unusual cars that could occasionally be seen parked around town. This troper suspects they belonged to the same person. One of them had an elaborate and very beautiful mural painted all over it, and the other one had about 200 plastic toys glued onto the roof and hood. Tourists always freaked out upon seeing them, residents were appreciative of the awesome but never reacted to seeing them. * At the 2010 Canadian National Debating Championships at the University of Alberta, [[{{Tropers/Mhwal}} This Troper]] was a judge (and also placed 2nd in public speaking, but that's another story). At the beginning of each round, I would place a stuffed penguin named Thomas Paineguin, which I had bought at the Calgary airport on a stopover, next to me while I judged the round, largely to test this theory. Absolutely no one ever commented on the penguin, with the exception of the last round, and only because I had mentioned it first. * This troper's brother had a weirdness censor moment. The troper had just barely gotten his Microsoft Office disk, after spending a week without even a trial to use. His brother walked in and asked "What'cha typing?" Ten minutes later this troper was telling him what he was going to be typing up tomorrow (today), and his brother asked, "You have Office already?" * I'm from Belfast, Northern Ireland and I was in Paris recently with my dad and sister. We started talking to a couple from Arizona and we mentioned Northern Ireland being on CNN for some rioting in an annoyed but not surprised tone, but the Arizonans were horrified. Though, to be fair, I was really shocked, seeing a (relatively) small amount of rioting on CNN, because I was thinking "Jesus I didn't even think they'd put that on the national news, never mind the world news!" * One of the kids at this troper's middle school is the son of Michael Rispoli, who played Jackie Aprile Sr. on TheSopranos, and Big Joe in {{Kick-Ass}}. Nobody brought it up until shortly after Kick-Ass had come out. * I had an armload of books and was trying to get out the college library door, when a knight held it open for me. An honest to god knight, chain mail and all. The fact that he actually held the door for me was more shocking than his costume (I guess chivalry isn't dead, it's just a few centuries outdated). I didn't even realize how odd it was until I was about halfway home. Even then, I just shrugged it off. * I dyed my hair green once. Normally, I go unnoticed by everyone for

the most part, but with the green hair I was downright invisible. People didn't just not notice the green hair, but my entire existence by extension. The most odd example was when the green started to fade out one guy suddenly noticed I had blond hair, up until then he never even noticed my hair was anything out of the ordinary. * They really should only have one fire drill a year. This past year in ninth grade, my class was taking the English EOC when the fire alarm went off. Everyone looked up, then calmly continued the EOC. A minute or so later, the loudspeaker came on, telling everyone there was a fire and everyone should evacuate...but only after the teachers collected the testing materials. All the kids cared about was "I hope this doesn't cause a misadministration." * Last summer, [[{{Tropers/Joerc45}} This troper]] was once walking home on a Saturday morning when he saw a woman hit a small deer with her car. She took a brief moment to wonder in disbelief, but ultimately just kept driving. A few seconds later, the deer stood up and galloped away. This happened in the middle of the CITY! He just decided to chalk it up hallucinations being caused by his hangover. ---Alright, [[DavidLynch Mister Lynch]], move your cow, it's parked wrong. ** [[WeirdnessCensor You don't see it has a phallus for a head and hovers, do you?]] *** Who cares? ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WeirdnessCoupon * This troper is well-known among her peers for being an "artist," which just means that you're willing to stick to a high school art class for more than the required year. This, and her normally eccentric behavior, gives her a pass to do ANYTHING at all. It doesn't hurt that most people find this troper to be a bit hilarious, and good grades and a friendly relationship with the teachers is always handy. * This one get cut a little slack, too. I can read Mage:TheAascension, drink Pepsi or eat candy in class and nobody cares. Except the ones next to me who'll want a piece. * This troper has a friend who is allowed to get away with some truly outrageous behavior by not only students but teachers! She's done things that would have gotten any other person kicked out of school, but it's okay, because "She's Brina." * This troper would say there are a ''lot'' of people like this. His college neighbor (2007-2008) is allowed to get away with swearing, lying, mooching, thieving, cheating, and - for Christ's sake ''hitting girls for absolutely no reason,'' a conduct that [[DoubleStandard does not spread to the male gender]], but because "he's Sibo," it's perfectly fine. No, this troper is ''not'' bitter. Not ''at all.'' * This troper is an example, but nowhere near the level of the previous examples.

* In her previous school, this troper discovered that being an art student apparently entitled one to eccentric behaviour. Acceptable behaviour included such things as racing down the hallway on computer chairs with fellow art students (teachers merely greeted us as we passed them) and acquiring broken glassware from the kitchen with the aid of the magic words "it's for a project" (granted, it ''was'' for a project). * This troper has a friend who is allowed to come to school obviously hungover/stoned and smoke in front of teachers on school grounds. He's also allowed to get away with copious public swearing and acts of violence upon breakable inanimate objects. The trust that people put in him regardless is staggering; this troper once witnessed a man in a grocery store ask him to watch his eight-year-old daughter while the man used the restroom. Evidently he's allowed to get away with anything because he's small, good-looking, and ridiculously mellow. This troper insists he's an alien with magic powers. You'd have to know him. * This troper has noticed a tendency for a few gay men she knows to touch women inappropriately and/or make offensive or lewd comments while using the "it's okay, I'm gay" card to get away with it. Evidently it doesn't work the same way with lesbians. * I had a hair fetish in high school which I acted upon quite often. The various people whose hair I fancied went on with their business and just attributed it to me being me. * This troper knows a breast obsessive who goes on about them all the time and once greeted her casually with "I never realised what big tits you have". It seems to be widely accepted that there's no changing him, even though he discriminates in favour of well-endowed women at every opportunity. His wife puts up with it too, or so it seems. ** Which leads to the question of his wife's [[UnusualEuphemism forwardness]]... * There is an entire ''university'' built on this premise - Reed College in Portland, Oregon, is the Pacific Northwest's drug mecca if you can smoke it, snort it, or inject it, you can do it, even though many people have died of overdoses (the most recent of a ''heroin'' overdose). Apparently, this is okay, because the Reed kids are "super-intelligent" and "gifted". Or if you're a college aged student who knows some Reed kids and is sick and tired of the media giving them their WeirdnessCoupon, "passing off complete lack of social skills as misunderstanding by mundanes", "jackasses flaunting their 'freedom' every time you see them", "rich enough parents to get into Reed" or at best "[[InsufferableGenius insufferable geniuses]]". * This troper got through 10th grade because of this trope. He doesn't know why, but he seems to be able to get away with not doing homework or messing around on the school computers all day. ** This troper just did a double check to make sure that he didn't write this earlier and forgot about it. Seriously- I think the school authorities had stopped caring around the time I put seven copies of [=StepMania=] on the network drive. ** This troper [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife reads TVTropes throughout Computers class.]] He's getting marks in the 80s.

** This troper also had something similar. I skipped occasional classes in some parts of high school while fixing something [[strike:with the]] for the IT admin (small school). I also got away with listening to music (headphones on) throughout ''all of grade 10'', by having a tendency to answer any question asked with the right answer anyway. ** This troper is three years behind on his education (personal problems), so he gets unusual amount of slack in his school. His colleagues and teachers take the insults and ClusterFBombs in stride, nobody ever complains about him going out for a smoke mid-class, falling asleep, or going to class with novels and snacks instead of schoolbooks. Hangovers and smelling like an Amsterdam coffee shop are never mentioned. Still, I try to make up for it by being helpful in crisis situations. * [[GwenStacyWannabe This troper]] and her best male friends do all sorts of odd things at school and elsewhere that would probably get us kicked out or sent to the loony bin anywhere else, but the guys get a WeirdnessCoupon and this troper seems to be something of an unintentional teacher's pet... This includes one of the guys putting on a leering basketball mask and walking around the school, scaring people with it. * This troper's university society will sorely miss a certain male student, who will remain nameless. When you find yourself throwing packets of biscuits at a tree, fleeing from improvised fighting robots, or trying to put out an unexpected longboat fire, and it makes ''total sense'', that's him. Oh - and [[BerserkButton don't touch the hair]]. * This troper has a few stories: ** One day in literature class in 11th grade, this troper got bored and started placing pencils into the hair bun of his female friend sitting in front of him. The teacher had the class situated where half was on one side, facing the half on the other side so she could walk in the middle. A good 75% kept watching this poor girl as she got three pencils stuck in the left side of her bun, three stuck in the right side of her bun, and three sticking out the top of it. After a while, she noticed everyone, including the teacher, staring at her. She discovered it, and we all had a good laugh. The teacher loved this troper, for some reason, and he didn't get in trouble for disturbing class. ** One of this troper's band directors had a horrible habit of speeding up when conducting. One day, she got so fed up with the band "slowing down" that she turned on the overhead microphone, turned on a metronome, and played the loud, piercing beat throughout the band room. She tried a couple more times, and continued to speed up. She said, fuming, "Class, I even have a metronome going and..." and this troper could take it no more, so he yelled, "And you're still slowing down!" She just gave this troper a look, stopped, turned off the equipment and said, "From the top." She never mentioned the incident. ** Just about every day at recess in 5th grade, this troper and his friends noticed that Gina and Mitch, two mentally-challenged classmates, never got in trouble for their constant very physical and violent fights. We always joked that the teachers sat back and said to

each other, "How cute!" To prove their point, one day friends Brigham and Drew decided to playfully and gently push each other back and forth. The result? They each had to sit on the sidewalk for five minutes for fighting. ** One slow day, while working at Burger King, this troper got bored and decided to throw a large, unbroken sheet of ice into one of the grease burners. After a couple minutes, when the grease was still going crazy, a manager came back to the kitchen, fuming and demanding to know who was responsible. Just as this troper was about to confess and get written up, a co-worker named Ronnie said, "I did." The manager just laughed and said, "Okay, but not again." When asked why he did it, he responded, "I didn't want you to get in trouble. They know I do stupid things." * This troper is it in his group of friends, though not on the level of some people here. As has been said - "When someone says something crazy or weird, it's all 'oooh, they're being crazy and weird'. When Goody says something crazy or weird, it's just your average day." * This troper is a borderline example. He can get away with outrageous stuff -- but only when he's in Latin. In any other class, he's too afraid to try. On one memorable occasion, he stuck one of the teacher's post-it notes on his forehead after writing "off to la-la land" on it. Then he just sat there and daydreamed until the teacher realized it was one of her post-its. * In one class, this troper got groped in front of several people by a boy with severe mental retardation. No one took it seriously, because he was "harmless". She was extremely freaked out and, fine, scared. Said boy also got away with screaming fist-swinging temper tantrums when someone was in front of him in a lunch line - as one of the several mentally disabled people with keepers guiding them along, he automatically was sent to the head of the line, but sometimes a student was in the process of paying and couldn't just wait. The only other person who didn't think he was "sweet" told this troper to just treat him like an unpleasant but not really dangerous dog, and that actually worked pretty well. * Although [[{{norms29}} this troper's]] friends give a very poor frame of reference for what is normal, one of them takes the cake. In the [[TableTopGames gaming]] club at my college there are two members relevant to this story. One was known as BSM; the only explanation I received for this was "well, she's a '''raging''' lesbian, so we call her Ball Sac Man when she's not around". I chose not to question the logic of that connection at the time, instead asking "When she's not around? Nikki was calling her that to her face just yesterday", which elicited the even more useless reply of "well yeah, but, that's Nikki" * This one person in [[{{Shini}} This troper's]] [=CISCO=] class gets away with being the type of raging asshole that only {{House}} could dream of being, because he's Simon. He even got elected as Public Relations Officer despite being well-known as a 4chan-spewing asshole. * This troper has just started high school and is banking on his strategy of this to work. The only way I got away with doing so little in middle school is my Weirdness Coupon, and so far, have established an amazing one. Highlights so far include yelling "MR. SAMIR!" at the same student daily, asking stupid questions (not remotely related to

the subject) to the Biology teacher, and working up the selfdeprecating humor to a foam. But, hey, it's just Max, what're ya going to do? * This troper worked with someone who was used to being treated this way all her life, often by using the sob story about her "hard life" (featuring numerous tragedies she had inflicted on herself. Basically, none of her friends could not stand to be around her, none of her 2 husbands could stand her, and none of her children, who moved away from her as soon as they were 18. There's an upside to this folks people who abuse their WeirdnessCoupon drive people away, and she had used it so much, she was all alone), some skill at emotional manipulation and various other tricks. She was insufferable to work with, and pretty much everyone left her to her own area of the building, the boss included. As the new guy, and perceiving my life to be too easy, said person took a dislike to me. I did all I could to keep her separated from me, but she kept coming after me, until in a moment of stupidity and desperation, she spent an hour lying about where I had been, claimed I hadn't completed the 3 hours of work I had been assigned in the morning and then when I gave a sharp tongued rebuttal (silly of me, but she wears down everyone's patience. I think I lasted longer than most), she "pretended" to quit (throwing a public tantrum, much in the way a small child would), then told the boss she would not return until I was fired. She had mistakenly assumed we could not survive without her (even loudly boasting this to various friends of her). Unfortunately for her, she had misinterpreted her boss's refusal to fire her as her being invaluable, where in fact he was really afraid of conflict. Afterward he actually thanked me, since he didn't know how to deal with her. The company has since expanded, and her job was filled by someone who isn't a Drama Llama, and therefore far more efficient. So yeah, these people can be a pain to be around, but if they push it too far, they hurt themselves in the end. ** Actually I remember reading that there's a condition in which a person basically doesn't grow up mentally. Sounds like your "Friend" was one of them. The best part is that the way to treat it is to basically treat them as a child and not give into them. Makes me feel less guilty about doing such myself. * This troper's best friend Glenn is a real-life {{Keet}} whose various eccentricities are usually excused with "He's Glenn." This includes, but is not limited to, striking up conversations about ''MagicTheGathering'' with random strangers, giving bear hugs to other dudes (including extremely manly ones), screaming nonsense words at the top of his lungs, and breaking out into song in the middle of the Student Union while doing an improvised tap number. Of course, FreezairForALimitedTime isn't much better herself--If she decides to hand in an entire essay in mirror-writing, then ''she hands in an entire essay in mirror writing.'' And [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome she aces it.]] * A friend of [[PandaKnight This Troper]] asked a math teacher at our high school for an Algebra 2 book to hollow out. It was granted. The most awesome speech ever followed the next day. * This troper knows a very short, very mellow person who can get away

with just about anything. In the course of one class period, he is liable to chuck pencils across the room, yell little-kid insults, smile about the whole thing, and give everyone hugs. He's everyone's hero by now. * [[{{Kriegsmesser}} This troper]] doesn't so much have a WeirdnessCoupon as everyone else filters him through a WeirdnessCensor. He's walked backwards for an entire day, regularly burps in public and rates them on a scale of 1 to 10, and once even [[SilentBob Silent Bobbed]] his way through an ''entire week''. Of course, it may help that he's a BunnyEarsLawyer. * This troper has a friend that can get away with anything. Last Christmas, his gift to everyone was signed photos of himself. Everyone loved them. * At my old school, I had something of a weirdness coupon. I could be reading a book or playing cards (for fun) or whatever during recess/lunch with my friends and nobody would care, even when I accidentally shouted "BULL****!" at the top of my lungs when playing the card game of same name. * This troper holds a lot of weirdness coupons. This really reached a limit when I tried out a new evil laugh, and people around me were terrified about it until they realized it was me, because "At least he's not stoned." Note that I have never taken any form of drugs, and I don't drink. Not out of any moral thing, but because you get screwed up for being caught with drugs and alcohol tastes like shit. * This troper has three words that are the most effective weirdness coupon she's ever encountered "Forgot the meds." * The high school that this troper went to has a combined American History/English class available for the honors sophomores. We did such weird projects that we got an actual WeirdnessCoupon; a permanent hall pass that let us come and go as we pleased. And boy, did we do weird stuff for our projects and reports! * This troper's friend had a Weirdness Coupon allowing him to fall asleep in first period English during eighth grade, or just about. He also declares weird things and spews memes sometimes, but no one particularly cares. * For a Media project years ago, this troper's group filmed a brawl in the school corridors. Right outside occupied classrooms. It was the full being dragged around by shirts, heads pushed into lockers, we had a couple of passers-by join in and a couple of people walk straight past, and no teacher ever said a word to us. * After discovering Lord of the Rings, this troper decided to write her schoolwork in the pretty script that's used for the maps. A friend decided to copy her and was told off. When she protested that the troper was allowed to, the teacher (who later became headmaster) replied, "ah, but she's struggling with her mind." We were very amused. * [[{{Malus}} This Troper]] has a few examples of his Weirdness Coupon in action: ** He's been known to stand at the front of the class and have conversations with the teachers while everyone else is doing work. ** This Troper was also allowed to simply refuse to do any given assignment on a whim in his Geometry class because he always got near

perfect test scores. ** He's worn a welding mask during Physics class without problem, despite the teacher's strict enforcement of the rules requiring other students to remove hats and/or sunglasses. ** Teachers have tolerated him handing in assignments where his name was written only in a cypher of his own making. ** He wore his hoodie during yearbook pictures after several students before him were required to remove them and several others were made to remove theirs after him. He also didn't smile. ** He is also allowed to take two milks during lunch without paying the extra quarter just because. * This troper only has the coupon amongst his friends despite going on incredibly long and well founded rants about how goats are evil. His friend, on the other hand, always wears a hoody (despite school uniform laws being strict as anything.) and gets away with jokes about anything from childish toilet humour to jokes about abortion. He's also been named the Antichrist on many occasions. His other friend also is not punished for his strange qualities. He's called out on them a lot, but never actually punished in a situation where anyone else would because everyone just expects it from him. * At This Tropette's school play, the little kids have a special section up front so they can see. Often, a very patient older sibling of one of the little guys sits with them, and is effectively in charge of 20 or so small children. So during one performance, one of the actors in the play LIT A FIRE in the dressing room. With all those little guys YARDS AWAY with no parents. No, he was not expelled. That would make sense. * Yet another troper with a weirdness coupon. This troper could do everything from fall asleep in classes (keeping in mind that he talks in his sleep, saying some rather, disturbing, things at times), to randomly chewing on people. He also got into nearly a fight a week at times, with the other student suspended or expelled, and him only told to not do that again. (He knew the principle personally, and the principle knew that he only got in fights that really needed to be dealt with, there were some very nasty people at our school, and I mean really truly nasty human beings) He also could wander the halls without any kind of pass (or even excuse) and could wander into and out of any class at any. Unfortunately he lost his connections to the school staff after Jr. High, except for the Tech Department, where he became a bit of a BunnyEarsLawyer. * This troper seems to hold the WeirdnessCoupon for her entire church congregation, which is partly explained by the fact that she's one of the church's five most active volunteers (and the office administrator to boot). Of course, it helps that the Pastor is pretty much as weird as she is, and they are an effective if somewhat dangerous combination. * This troper and his best friend held the WeirdnessCoupon since grade school and throughout high school, people just ignored what idiocy we did. We once bombarded a classroom with paper airplanes (and the teacher just told us to clean it when we were done without even batting an eyelash), and another time [[NoodleImplements we made bows out of copper rods and garter]] and goofed around with them (people

just resumed their business and stepped to the side when they saw us). * My friend. I may have forgotten the details of this story, but he ran up behind two freshmen girls he didn't know, threw a bunch of weeds into the air above their heads, yelled "ANDROIDS CAN'T LOVE", and took off running down the hallway. Also he makes contingency plans for in case our school erupts into racial warfare. And he rarely gets in trouble. We're used to him by now. * [[{{Nomic}} This troper]] can get away with saying pretty strange stuff without anybody batting an eye. Nobody pays any attention when he claims that he serves the Great Cthulhu (or maybe the Burning Legion. He isn't quite sure himself) or sings in "demonic" (essentially the stuff spoken by demon in Warcraft games with some ascribed meanings to certain words) to the tune of Russian folk songs (that one actually has a perfectly sensible reason: I like the tunes but can't speak a word of Russian, so I rather use a completely madeup language than sing in horribly mangled sorta-Russian). It's what he does. It does help that many of his fellow students do pretty strange things too (like sing out loud the theme of Love Boat or eats four pounds of cheese for lunch). And then there was the ManicPixieDreamGirl he knew in highschool who could say and do pretty much anything (from climbing to the roof of the building to explaining why all other nations should form an alliance and declare war on USA) without anybody finding it particularly strange. * At this troper's former high and middle schools, anyone who has participated in the International Baccalaureate program for a significant period of time seems to receive one of these. Go on, show up to school in all out {{cosplay}}. Provided the dress code isn't being broken very much, no one will mind. What? You duct taped that girl to an office chair? Oh, she requested it? Well, just don't get me fired, okay? ** Ditto for this troper's school. As long as we kept up with our work and promised not to fail our exams, everything from [[EscalatingWar prank wars]] to psychological analyses of {{Discworld}} characters to the application of [[MemeticMutation internet memes]] to classic literature was permitted. And the year below us was even worse.... *** Baccalaureate only schools in Switzerland are the opposite. If you are at all eccentric or weird in any way whatsoever, expect frequent calls of ''you just don't'' '''''DO''''' ''that!''. * This troper gets away with blatantly not paying attention, doodling, reading completely off-topic books (Discworld in Algebra class, anyone?), chewing gum, holding conversations, sleeping, and even eating his lunch in the middle of class. While many students can get away with at least one of these from time to time, for some reason teachers almost never call him out. He also (apparently) avoids being explicitly placed in a singular stereotype. He once heard a story about a (rather bitchy) girl pointing to various classmates and going, "He's a geek. She's a slut. He's a pothead. He's a jock. She's emo. Uh... he's. Hmm. He's That One Guy." * It usually takes up to two week for this troper's teachers and schoolmates to realize he has one. One notable way he established it: last day of school, this troper was bored, was sitting against a tall wall, had a banana peel and curiosity. I started trying to see how

high I could get, when the local evil yard duty rounded the corner. The yardduty tried to yell, but was too confounded to figure out what to do. Ever since, the yard duty only gives him warnings at worst. ** The Troper also gets away with writing comics and stories in class since either the teachers just figure out I do it to pay attention (if I don't write these things down, I get distracted), or this troper flat out tells them on day one. * This troper, a native Texan, gets plenty of [[WeirdnessCoupon weirdness coupons]] around the state simply by being from Austin. Austin is... [[http://www.keepaustinweird.com/home.html different.]] * Almost everyone I know has one, to certain degrees. Mostly because everyone I know is off their meds, quite literally. * Pretty much everyone well-known in this troper's school Drama Club when it comes to the two drama teachers/sponsors. They can do just about anything that doesn't jeopardize a production and they'll be treated just the same, or even be ''joined'' by the sponsers in a joke or prank. One girl, in a desperate attempt to avoid retribution for abusing her boyfriend (later ex-boyfriend) from the rest of the drama kids, ''faked amnesia''. A year later, and she's the assistant director for the spring musical. * Sometimes a WeirdnessCoupon can work ''too'' well. This troper, who works in a museum, walked in today carrying a license plate and was rather disappointed that people were so used to bizarre things happening around him that nobody commented [[GenreSavvy except for the one person who figured out why he had it, and who only did so to confirm her guess]]. * This troper has been allowed to pull off a lot of weird stuff and still managed to be one of the guys in my year while I was in school. The description they gave me for our graduation yearbook was "Unique" and "In a class of his own". * This troper manages to have a WeirdnessCoupon in the midst of a bunch of theatre majors and fangeeks, which is saying something. Most notably, she gets away with wearing things that no otherwise sane person would think of wearing in public. Someone shows up to a conference in tight purple 80s pants, a sparkly gold belt, and a pirate shirt? Don't worry, that's Rin. * It seems that all of the boys in this troper's class gets to do this. For example: Throwing food, yelling obscenities and sexual words very loudly in class, browsing the internet when the teachers are looking right right behind them, throwing footballs up at the lights and endangering everyone with shards of sharp glass, starting fights in the middle of class, emptying others desks in homeroom, breaking all of the chalk, stealing all of the markers, never doing homework, falling asleep in class and telling the teachers this, writing obscenities in all of the schools library books, acting racists and using "Jew" as an insult... Note: We're in a small Catholic K-8 school, where my grade (7th) has only about 40 kids, so everyone gets a lot of attention on their own, but the teacher's just really don't care anymore. 5 teachers throughout the years have either taken early retirements or have gone to teach at different schools after our grade...it really pisses me off, b/c all of these boys are going to grow up to be horrible people...

* This troper has learned from experience that the best way to get a permanent WeirdnessCoupon pass is to hit them [[ShockAndAwe fast and hard]] with the madness from Day One. In college, my professors have come to expect it from me (especially the ones who have added me on Facebook, since my Facebook feed is a nonstop jamboree of my most absurd thoughts presented for public consumption with no content filters) to the point where if I'm NOT using a WeirdnessCoupon they wonder if there's something [[GoneHorriblyWrong gone wrong]] in my life. It never occurs to them that I'm blatantly flaunting the rules for my own benefit under normal circumstances. In fact, they're worried when I'm playing straight. * [[{{Valbinooo}} My]] boyfriend gets away with things nobody else would be able to, like tugging me around, tickling me, and biting my shoulder and fingertips. He even said that I would never notice if he became a vampire because he does this every time we are within ten feet of each other. * At High School, I was decided to try out a rather amazing Christmas gift. No-one really blinked at the weasel-on-a-ball rolling around class room. * This troper has this. She could just randomly crash a project meeting held by some of her friends, then just crawl to lie on someone's lap, before moving off to perch on someone's back when the previous one needed to stand up to write something on the white board, then move to doodle on someone else's paper. Cue rest of the team mates not batting an eyelid as the brain storming session goes on. * An approximate exchange between my friend and the school janitor. Her dad's actually a teacher: --->Janitor: Why are you two rollerblading in school? And it's not even a school day. --->Friend: Umm... My dad said I could? --->Janitor: Is your dad Sean? --->Friend: Umm yeah. --->Janitor: Okay then. * Happened at my job, I worked in a food court for about a year and a half, everyone there was certain that i had lived an extremely sheltered life. so when I messed up, i would usually just get a shaken head, maybe a face palm and told to clean it up. i didn't mess up often but in the immortal words of my supervisor, "waldo(my nickname), you don't f*** up that much, but when you do, G** DAMN!". of course it was like this for just about everyone there, it made up for the horrible office politics, it helped that when i was there i was close to if not the hardest worker there, mostly because of a damn good work ethic. but still under normal situations f***ing up 3 different 16" pizzas in a row would at least get you sent to the back room to get your sh*t together, not me, i got sent to the gravy train, ice cream. * This troper knits through every one of her classes - even band. It took several months for her teachers to notice, and even then they didn't actually object. They're probably thankful she's not texting like most of her peers. * In my high school experience, being a decent student and not having a track record of raising hell can get you pretty far. For example, last year, I ate lunch in math class every day. I still did my work

and, despite being absolute shit at math, got by with a B+, so nobody said a thing. Also, last year, I fell asleep several times in a class where the teacher is notorious for freaking out over kids sleeping. I was woken up only once, and the teacher assured me he was just 'making sure I was okay' (he also said that, had I been a guy, he would've put me through the ringer, but that's [[DoubleStandard a different trope]]). This year, while being subjected to some horrible documentaries in science, I pretty much said 'screw it', copied down the required twenty facts in about three minutes, then put headphones on and surfed the 'net on my phone for the rest of the hour. Teacher stood right behind me (obviously seeing my phone, since the class was dark and my phone was lit up), saw that I'd finished the work, and moved on without a word. In short, be a decent student and teachers will pretty much develop a WeirdnessCensor to whatever mischief you get up to. * This troper, after finishing early one day during computer testing near the end of the semester, proceeded to whip out earphones and watch {{Futurama}} on Netflix while the other students continued to test. This got little attention. She has also gotten away with sleeping, socializing, and using her phone completely conspicuously during math class, even when switching seats to do so. ---Go back to Main/WeirdnessCoupon. Unlike real life, the examples there are only fiction. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WeirdnessMagnet * Well, for starters, some creepy religious leader has been reciting my dreams back to my friends and I with no way of knowing them. His little love interest/sidekick thing also described my friend's bedroom to her perfectly, because he was claiming he was standing in it 'in force.' I've had recurring nightmares about a there being shed in a forest by my house, which has a giant eye monster living in a huge hole in the floor. Then a friend of mine goes to that forest, looks around, and confirms that there is in fact a shed there, complete with hole, but currently minus eye monster. Then, meeting a guy in dreams, then having him somehow Email you in real life. Bonus points if he isn't lying about the story of him really being in a hospital somewhere, but moving around metaphysically. * Weird shit just happens to me. People who don't even know me actually can guess my randomness desires and read my mind. Being within a non-relationship and so so much more. * Oh, where do I start? ** Ghosts apparently like me enough to pop up everywhere. ** [[TheSlendermanMythos Tall, Dark, and Skinny]] follows me around. ** My friends can read my mind. ** I dreamed about meeting my best friend several months bbefore. * This troper's friend actually said to him "Well, you're a weirdo, so it's natural that you'll always attract weirdos. Live with it". Words

of wisdom... * [[{{Osakachan12}} This tropette]] tends to have this happen enough. Just a small list: ** Ghosts pop up ''everywhere.'' ** I can predict my friends' rooms scarily perfect, right down to wall color and posters. But I do this best with close friends. ** I once dreamed about an earthquake over in Japan in 2007. Guess what happened, though granted, it did take 4 years. ** I inexplicably come up with character designs that look like popular characters...without ever having seen or even heard about said popular characters (as in, I once came up with a design that looked like [[{{Aria}} Akari]], even though I'd never heard of Aria before.) * I attract the weirdest guys sometimes (just to give some of these guys the benefit of the doubt, maybe some of them aren't weird, but merely don't fit my standards - [[JerkAss but for good reason]]). "Weird" in general is not an issue, since I'm quite the weirdo myself (For starters, I'm goth. You may fill in the blanks.). I think that, much like the concept of beauty, weirdness is in the eye of the beholder, but sometimes weirdness can be watered down into two categories: fantastically weird, and then stalker weird. My problem is that I tend to attract the latter type of weirdo male. Case and point, I attended a SteamPunk convention recently, so that alone should automatically imply fantastic weirdness. However, the hotel that the convention was being held at was also hosting some sort of reunion among a bunch of senior citizen-aged Black Americans. Being a black person myself, the thought just had to pop into my mind: ''Uh oh. One of these people is going to feel obliged to approach me just because I'm one of the few black females attending this convention.'' It happened. Some older guy approached me, mumbling words that I could hardly make out, but I just humored him and hoped that he was just another old dude who wanted to lecture the non-conformist youths of the day and then he'd eventually have to take his pills and leave. Unfortunately, this was not to be. In fact, I could hardly understand what the hell he was talking to me about, as he was speaking in entirely NonSequitur. In between he'd throw in random compliments to me, to which I would callously say, "...thanks." But I knew I had to leave when I heard the words "wish", "marry", and "you" in the same sentence, so you can imagine how I made my way to the opposite end of the hotel as fast as I could. ** So does this troper, except she's white. The defining characteristics of the ones that she has attracted is that they have all had an age difference of at least four years or more (three of the men she attracted were while she was underage); two of them have been complete douchebags (one of them a rapist) and the other two have had major hangups/problems with their social lives. What's a girl have to do to find a nice boy around here? * This Troper's two friends are Weirdness Magnets, which makes them real fun to hang around. Some samples: ** Buddy has teriyaki chicken and chopsticks in bag, bag is tightly tied up and sealed, this thing's never gonna open. Buddy falls over, bag goes flying, makes a mess. Buddy leaves it there. Buddy checks his pocket to make sure his Yu-Gi-Oh cards haven't fallen out. Buddy finds

chopsticks that were in the bag that was tightly sealed and never opened. *** Furthermore, buddy ate a candy(something was notably different with the packaging) as we left the restaurant, then after finding chopsticks, also found the same candy he'd eaten a half-hour earlier, fully intact and with the weird packaging. ** And then there's the stories where they're walking down the street, and people try to sell them weird stuff, like raw meat, and a DVD player that fits on the tip of their finger(it plays REAL DVDs).

WelcomeToCorneria * Subversion story: [[@/{{Koveras}} This Troper]] once participated in a ''Return to the TombOfHorrors'' module and his party was ''hellbent'' on having everything and everyone who didn't attack them on sight join the team. That included most "informational" [=NPCs=], too, for example: the [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots female medron]] Cyndia from the Tower in Health in Moil got conscripted as a secondary [[TheMedic party healer]]; the Gustaeth the Head from the Tower of Tests was reincarnated as a badmouthing dwarf to become a PartyTank; Deverus, renamed to "Alexander", was saved from his petrified state to serve as our guide to the Fortress (though that was only possible [[TheGMIsACheatingBastard thanks to our DM]])... these are only the most prominent examples. * This troper worked at a pizza restaurant at the local food court, and nearly turned into an NPC. You get set in a particular pattern of phrases and responses, and when something occurs out of order that throws the pattern off, HilarityEnsues. ** I can empathize with that. I worked telephone reservations for a dinner theater one summer. I got pretty good at adapting the script (yes, ''script'') to callers who liked to ask questions about everything and not let me finish. *** Let's just say it's part of the job description for restaurant cashiers. And... hm. Does anyone else ever wonder if orchestrating a city-wide RealLife MMORPG would actually work? * This troper has noticed that when talking about their problems to a certain someone, they always reply with the phrase 'aww hug'. ** Same with an old friend of mine, except her response was always ':<' instead. Meanwhile, [[{{Tropers/Kadorhal}} I]] end up responding ':V' to a lot of things. * Similarly for being a badge-checker at an anime convention, especially if you hadn't intended to volunteer for the duty. The same questions every time. [[{{Skazka}} This troper]] got agonisingly bored very quickly. "Welcome to the Consuite! Can you show me your shiny thing?" "Is there rice?" "There's no rice yet, but it ought to be along shortly. Welcome to the Consuite! Can you show me your shiny thing?" "Hey, do you guys have rice?" (Eventually I decided to spice it up by running my mouth at total random, and eventually began something that was half-banter with an unwilling captive audience, and half audience participation. The shiny thing, in case you were wondering, is the holographic tape that identifies an actual badge versus a photocopy. By the way, people, please, no matter how

hilarious it seems at the time, wear your badge on your shirt or somesuch. Not on your bra. Not down your pants. Not on your garter under your skirt. Jeez.) * I've seen this lampshaded once. A friend got roped into a volunteer by a JerkAss who kept extending her shift as a greeter. After a thirty minute job turned into ''over four hours,'' she took a sheet of paper, wrote "Welcome to the open house," "Bathrooms are down the hall to your left," "Refreshments are down those stairs, two left turns, and through the doors with the balloon arch," and "I don't know, check your map" on it, posted it, and went home. * Hilarious example experienced by this troper when playing Oblivion. [=NPCs=] regularily engage in conversations when visiting towns in the game, but for whatever reason, I found two men engaging in a conversation consisting in only the phrase "I don't know you, and I don't care to know you" being volleyed back and forth. [[OverlyLongGag This continued on for hours]], with both proclaiming they had no interest in friendship with the other person. Thing is, why are would they be engaged in such a conversation for so long if they really meant what they said? ArtificialStupidity aside, it lead to a really good laugh for a quite some time forward. * [[@/{{Renagade}} This Troper]] regularly engages in this activity with his younger brother, usually just to see who can go the longest without cracking. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' [[OverlyLongGag Hi!]] -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:'''*Stifling a laugh* Hi! -->'''Me:''' Hi. -->'''Brother:''' *Breaks down laughing* ---->'''[[AliceAndBob Alice]] the NPC''': WelcomeToCorneria!\\ '''Bob the NPC''': WelcomeToTVTropes!\\ '''Alice the NPC''': WelcomeToCorneria!\\

'''Bob the NPC''': WelcomeToTVTropes!\\ '''You''': GUYS, I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO WelcomeToCorneria! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

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WelcomeToTheBigCity * One of the stories that [[Tropers/{{Reflextion}} my]] grandfather told me about (when he was in one of his advice-dispensing moods) is the first time he came to America to visit my dad, and landed at the airport in Philadelphia. He got out to the curb and while he was waiting for my dad to arrive, a man came up and asked if he had the time. Well, my grandfather looked down at his watch to give that man the time, and when he looked back up, his luggage had been stolen. Needless to say, the experience did not instill in him a high opinion of Americans. Apparently, the lesson he meant for me to take from that story was that NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished. ---WelcomeToTheBigCity! Try not to get robbed on your way back to the main page. ----

WeNamedTheMonkeyJack * [[@/{{Katsuhagi}} This troper]] once had a gecko named Lily, after a friend she had at the time. It naturally became quite awkward when said gecko died. The fact that the friendship didn't end on a good note either sometime later is either very wince worthy or incredibly hilarious, it depends on the day. * This troper has a cat named Roy, named after [[FullMetalAlchemist Roy Mustang]] since he's a flame-point Siamese. Ironically, this troper's father's best friend is ''also'' named Roy, and his dad thinks he named the cat after ''him''. Especially hilarious when the troper mistakes the friend for his cat, and checks to see if he's somehow gotten into the fridge when his dad said "Roy and I went for a couple of beers". HilarityEnsues. ** This troper thinks this is rather adorable. * This troper had a cat named Harley for fifteen years. He was named after her parents' motorcycle. She amused herself in college by remarking to friends how much "I miss my Harley." She still does, now that he's gone. * Sort of related; I have a dog named Tony. Much later, my grandparents got a (sort of) friend named Tony. He still doesn't believe our dog's name is his. * A strange example: One of the little girls this troper babysits named her toy dog after the troper's. * One of this troper's distant relatives (a second or third cousin)

was nicknamed "Yaco" after an organ grinder's monkey * When this troper was six, she named one of her pet fish Pete, after her aunt's then-husband. One day, said troper woke up to find that her cat had eaten Pete the fish. (said cat had a habit of breaking into the tank, despite how many ways the troper tried to cat-proof it) The next day, troper found out that her aunt and Pete the human were divorcing. Oddly connected, and enough to convince this troper that naming pets after family members was not a good idea. Her next pet was named Harry Potter, figuring that fictional characters were safer namesakes. * When [[@/{{Nomic}} This]] troper was six, he named a fish Pekka after his friend's dad (there was a certain resemblance). This fish in question had better luck than the above troper's, as it lived for ten years before dying of old age. * When I was little I had a babydoll which I named Sabrina after my cousin who had just recently been born at the time. * As a kid, my dog (who we adopted already named) had the same name as a friend, who had a dog (also adopted pre-named) with ''my'' name. To make matters worse, the two names we had between the four of us rhymed. * Subverted by this troper. She had a dog named Rose which for awhile several of her friends thought was named after the Series/DoctorWho companion, Rose Tyler. In actuality, the dog predated the new series. But it gets downright ridiculous when the next companion shared the same first same as another family member. * Okay; here goes. Pardon my first person; it's confusing enough. My niece got a cat while my mother was pregnant with me. My mother had named me by that point, so my niece decided to name the cat after me. Retroactively. And people are confused by the simple fact that my niece is older than me. * This troper lives in a house with several other people and her cat Cody who she got right before she moved in and knew all of her housemates. Turns out one of the other guys living there is named Cody as well. It doesn't help that both are gingers and have a fondness for spicy chicken and beer. * My family and I feed stray cats, one of whom really reminded us of a distant cousin/family friend, so we named the cat after this person. (I mean, really looked/acted like him, down to similar ways of moving, facial expressions, etc - just, in a cat version.) It nearly got rather awkward when we were having a dinner party and the person and cat showed up around the same time. * Not that this has anything to do with pets or animals, but me and my buddy were talking about naming things after one another to get on each others nerves. He said he'd name a dog after me, just so he could make me sit and bow before him. I was fine with that, because i'd be naming my firstborn son after him. Confused, he asked why. I replied: "When I ask the boy 'Who is your daddy?'..." * This troper's mother is apparently named after a cow. (Anyone know about a famous cow called Belinda in the early seventies?) Coincidentally, she's also completely cow-mad. We have a cabinet full of cow stuff. Cow oven mitts. Cow statues. Cow mugs. Cow-shaped chocolate sprinkles. You name it, she's got it...

* This troper once toyed with naming her female dog after a bully that tormented her in grade school. ([[DontExplainTheJoke They're both "bitches,"]] [[IncrediblyLamePun get it?]]. She decided against it because A; she didn't want a bad memory to be associated with her beloved dog, and B; [[InsultToRocks she didn't want to insult the dog.]] * We literally named our cat Jack after Captain Jack Sparrow. In our defense, Jack the cat is a drunken goofball like his namesake. * In Air Force officer training, a common corrective action is to put a stone in the hand of the offending trainee who fails to remember to keep his or her hand clenched when marching. This stone is often given a name. This troper found out the first name of his Field Training Officer... ---What? No, [[WeNamedTheMonkeyJack we named the TROPE Jack]]. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WeNeedADistraction * In [[@/KatsuHagi this troper's]] gym class during a capture the flag game the opposing team had this very conversation during a blitz to grab the flag. So one guy's solution? Running across the field at full speed yelling "I'm a distraction!" The sad part is that it worked. ** In fairness, if he had been lying it would have been pure RefugeInAudacity and the defenders would be being mocked for ignoring him. * In a rather back-handed inversion This Troper's grade school class was playing a game wherein the goal was to move a ping pong ball from one end of a field to the other without being tagged. The inversion comes in when the ENTIRE TEAM acted as a major diversion to let the one kid (me) who no one looked at to stroll to the goal line unassailed and largely unnoticed. * [[@/CaptHayfever This troper]] once won a boffer sword sparring match by hitting on his opponent, confusing her just long enough for him to land the winning point. * My Japanese class once thrived on this trope. If things got a little too uncomfortable for someone, they would say, "Sensei, it's a distraction." It's originator wasn't too good at using it, though. This first eight times, she looked. The ninth, she called him a moron and failed him for the assignment. * This troper's soccer team has invoked this twice. The first time, on a prearranged signal, the watching brother of one teammate began singing opera, which unfortunately didn't startle the other team enough to make them give up the ball. The second time, with a couple of minutes left and the scores tied at 1-1, this troper began dancing the Macarena, distracting the goalie enough that she missed the ball flying through her goal a split second later. * In a tabletop roleplaying game, this troper once acted as a distraction by having his character run directly towards some guards, flailing wildly and shouting "Diversionary tactics!".

** This troper did something equally entertaining in a game of {{Exalted}}. His group spotted agents of the Wyld Hunt on the opposite side of a crowded market, and realized they needed a distraction to escape. In what the group unanimously considered a CrowningMomentOfAwesome. he had his character (a Night Caste Solar with the Thrillseeker nature) call out to the Wyld Hunt, elaborately flourish his [[ImpossiblyCoolWeapon orichalcum serpent-sting staff]] until he had their attention, then run like hell in one direction ([[StealthHiBye turning invisible at the first corner he could turn]]) while the rest of his group ran in the other. * During a game of flag football in P.E., my team had the ball and was trying to get a touch down. When our QB yelled 'Hike', I ran up to the best player on the opposite team. I began poking him. He asked me what I was doing. I cheerfully responded, "I'm the distraction!" * In Gym class, my class often plays a game that requires the teams to get a ball to hit the opponent's target. Seeing as I wasn't being much use, I decided to invoke this trope. Not only did it work to perfection, but after they realized and left me alone, someone passed the ball to the guy nearest the target (me) and scored a point. * Ah, during gym this troper found she couldn't beat anyone and quickly pointed to the sky and shouted, "Look! A Distraction!" It successfully distracted most of the team and let her win-that round. It didn't work so well the second time -- but it still worked. In fact, pointing to the ceiling and saying "WHOA A DISTRACTION!" still works, no matter who I use it on. Hm. * this troper was at a baseball game, where if the visiting team did not score in the last inning our team would win. everyone was loudly heckling the other team, who were ignoring them, until my mother, who did not feel the opposing team's pants were as tight as they should be yelled, "More Spandex." the batter missed that hit. * In capture the flag, if you free the jailbirds, you can't be tagged when you walk back. I do this, pretend i am going for the flag, yelling, "I AM [[{{invader zim}} DIB!]]" It worked... * Signiture fighting move. Flail one arm, around, say cryptically "Misdirection" Punch with other arm... * One morning in high school, I was getting quickly annoyed by someone who kept badgering me about a project he needed help on. I got so frustrated, I finally just pointed and called out, "Look! A distraction!" Amazingly enough, he turned around, allowing me to duck into the morning pre-class crowd and escape. * In a game of tackle football, I charged at a guy twice my size. he chuckled and asked if I though I could even hope to knock him over. I explained that I was small and weak, but distracting him for that guy. He turned around, and I jumped him, just bringing him down. ---Hey look! What's that [[WeNeedADistraction over there?]]

WeShouldGetAnotherTape * This troper regrets that he did this circa 2001, by recording an episode of ''TRL'' in the middle of a tape that his grandmother had recorded of CartoonNetwork way back in 1995. Even sadder is that I

could have easily recorded ''TRL'' at the ''end'' of the tape, where it suddenly cut from Cartoon Network to a forgettable episode of ''The Late Show with DavidLetterman''. (Several years later, I recorded over ''TRL'' with Drew Carey's first episode of ''ThePriceIsRight''. It just seemed right.) * Back when [[PentiumMMX2 This troper]] went nuts with recording his shows (Back when his mom worked at the local museum on weekends), he always had instances of this trope happen. On one of my tapes, there was a 2-second clip from the final episode of RoninWarriors, which would then lead into whatever I recorded that morning. What I regretted recording over the most, though, was Galador: Defenders of the Outer Dimension (A children's sci-fi series I regularly followed back then) in favor of stuff like EdEddNEddy and JohnnyBravo. Thanks to a lack of enough interest to make a DVD set worthwhile, the only way to watch Galador is to KeepCirculatingTheTapes, like with some episodes of {{MST3K}}). * This tropers older brother did this a lot, mainly because he, for a while, had the only VHS player in the house. ** SNICK lineup 2001? taped over for a school event on a camera that didn't work right. ** Baby videos? Science channel had a special on extreme skyscrapers. ** Every episode "Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3" taped from syndication 1994? Paula Dean had a new recipe. ** My favorite episode of Courage the Cowardly Dog? He taped over it with Live '08. Thankfully, though, some tapes remain untouched ( 2002 KCA, Legend of Zelda cartoon, Sponge Who Could Fly premiere, etc.) while others had copies ( Super Mario Bros. 3), and others were copies of mini-DV camera tapes ( baby videos). Still, he had the nerve to erase the SNICK tape... :( ---Go back to WeShouldGetAnotherTape, where '''*BBBBZBRBRZTTT*''' back to ''{{Doug}}'', here on {{Nickelodeon}}.

WesternZodiac ------------------------* This Troper is a Libra, and would have to say that so far, most of the info concerning his characteristics have been spot on. He's a polite person, who knows how to manipulate others though he never attempt to, morally balanced.[[NeutralGood In the good way]]. Sticks up for others, and is mostly concerned with fairness. ** .... [[{{Tropers/PasswordForgettingTroper}} Are you me?]] * This troper's a Gemini and has met at least one person of each zodiac sign that actually matches up surprisingly well. Yes, she knows how the wording is so vague that just about anyone would fit into any sign, but it's still fun to think about. She certainly gets along with the air signs better than the other signs, generally, plus it's fun to call her fellow air signs "airheads." * For Astronomy class, we had to do an assignment where we asked about 10 people what their signs were, and how accurate they were. My

boyfriend's a Virgo and I'm a Taurus, and he claim's it's not totally accurate, but from what I've read on various sites, the Taurus personality is completely accurate...minus the "practical" part... ** We did a thing in our class where we looked at unlabeled descriptions of personality based on signs, picked the one that most corresponded to our own personality, and then looked at the real labels to see if we'd picked our legitimate star signs. How many of us correctly picked the right star sign based on personality? Almost no one. * I was always very dismissive of how I'm supposed to be a Leo, which is ''nothing'' like me. Then I found out about the whole cusp thing, and how I'm right on the edge of being a Virgo, which is spot on spooky. Of course, it's very convenient how adjacent signs are so antithetical, so awkward people like me can be explained away... * This troper is a Capricorn. It does fit my overarching personality, but I have a lot of different facets that don't match up with that overarching personality or my star sign, and those facets can match up with all but one or two of the other signs. (Although a few more only match up poorly, or partially.) * This tropette is a Cancer, and basically a perfect match for my sign: I'm gloomy and emotional, my mood changes pretty easily, I keep to myself, I think too much about my past and I love my friends half to death. * This troper has a book which a explains each sign using a light bulb joke. For her sign, it's: "How Many Pisceans does it take to screw in a light bulb?" "[[CloudCuckoolander The light went out?]]" Combined with the empathy thing, it's pretty accurate. * This Troper is a Pisces (and the above joke is indeed true about most Pisceans) and I do share some of the traits of Pisces like the intuition, imagination, absentmindedness, idealistic, and my love of nonsense. However, I don't fall into the whole stereotype of being weak-willed, feminine, and adoring solitude. When I read about my Moon Sign, however, suddenly my sign totally made sense. You see, I'm a Leo Moon which explains my energeticness, stubborn pride, and my love for entertaining others. It also explains my indecisiveness which is basically me battling myself about deciding whether I should do what I want to do or what others want to do. And my Rising Sign is pretty accurate too, which is Taurus. * [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} This troper]]'s sun sign is Taurus, but his moon sign is Scorpio. Which seems to make him very strong-headed and stubborn, but also quite passionate; at the risk of TooMuchInformation, he can say his Sagittarian ex-girlfriend said to him she thought he was a very good lover - even though ''she'' was an OlderThanTheyLook ex-hooker, but ''he had been a virgin prior to'' [[{{IfYouKnowWhatIMean}} going with her]], he still seemed to have been in the top 5 in her list, and let's just say ''she'' was, well, [[{{ReallyGetsAround}} a bit too easy]]... * This troper is nearly a textbook Scorpio. And I have to disagree with the main page's assertion of Scorpio's treatment in fiction. Not that villains are usually scorpios, that's totally true...rather, I disagree that it's a "rough deal". Scorpios ''love'' being villains. I would elaborate, but I don't want to reveal too much about myself,

lest it compromise my complex plot to smite my nemesis. But first: lots of booze, and lots of sex! ** Just like a scorpio to not reveal much about yourself :D

WhamEpisode * These are a couple WhamEpisodes, and might not be as dramatic as some of the others on here. I was having an innocent, romantic, and long-distance relationship, when a few weeks ago I learned from my girlfriend that she was one month pregnant with a child from before we met. I was supportive and helpful, and in the end she decided not to keep the child, but already felt attached. Well, last weekend she...miscarried. * March 11, 2011, will be a WHAM Episode for This Troper. It started as a normal Friday morning. I was eating breakfast before I went to school, and then my mom asked me, "Did you hear? This was this big earthquake in Japan." I just shrugged it off, because I thought it was a 6.0-6.5 with little to no deaths. When This Troper got to school and read about the quake in Sendai, she just wanted to break down in tears in the middle of the school library, since This Troper is a big fan of anime and manga and has always wanted to go to Tokyo since middle school. However, some good did come out of it. Being one of the executives of the school anime club, This Troper organized a money donation drive at her school with the money going to the Red Cross to help out victims of the Sendai earthquake, tsunami, and Fukushima Daiichi power plant disaster. * Although it might not have been much for most, [[{{Halo}} "Wake me... when you need me."]] was this for me. * RealLife WhamEpisodes? Yeah, they exist. Like when I was 18, and my parents told me they were getting a divorce... which was only the beginning of a series of revelations that are very soap-operaworthy... ** Same Troper, different episode... but the one where I pledged my oath to join the Navy was a WhamEpisode, albeit one of a more positive tone. * In the Fantasy RP, first it was Sepelcre's undead invasion, and now it looks like Sid is angling to make another WhamEpisode. * The biggest WhamEpisode for this troper was almost 4 years ago when she lost her aunt and grandmother within 12 hours of each other. Needless to say, that really changed a lot of things. The only other WhamEpisode she can think of is when she had a nervous breakdown which ultimately led her to getting her long overdue ADD diagnosis. That actually was one of those positive ones. * For me, it was when my best friend from high school coldly and mercilessly stabbed me in the back, forever solidifying that all claims to truly liking me were a lie. ** Wait, a literal or a metaphorical backstab? ** Metaphorical. I didn't have to go to the hospital or anything. *** [[Tropers.ReikoKazama I]] can attest to that, only it was in primary school... grade 6. Some friend she turned out to be. * {{Dinru}} has these often. Long story short, she has a bad track record with picking friends...

* {{Teen Drama}}s have become common for a reason. High school is fucking ''insane''. * Mine came just this past May. Things were going along like crap. Late projects and first finals and classes taught by people who didn't know their rears from the seats they were on. I was trying to finish a project while a friend of mine was sitting in the room, singing to herself. After a while, I found it annoying. I was without a goodnight's sleep for weeks and at the end of my fuse. I, trying to sound polite, asked her to stop singing. She EXPLODED at me, saying that it was the rudest thing I have EVER said to her and that she would NEVER forgive me for it. I felt like I had just been in a car accident. I couldn't keep it together anymore. If my mother and girlfriend hadn't logged in to talk to me... Well, this was the first. Then I went to the academic adviser, who told me in no uncertain terms that I had to stay in the state for the summer to retake a class I had failed and take another I hadn't even heard of. I left that meeting feeling like nothing. Then came the grade summary. I had flunked out. Or just about. Now, I'm depressed, can't enjoy anything, berate myself constantly for my failings and laziness, and generally feel that I could make more of an impact by digging a hole in the ground and falling in, as opposed to what I felt going into college, which was cautious optimism. I feel narcissistic and whiny for posting all of this here, and know that my episode isn't nearly as bad as the others here. ** * hugs* Just remember that you're still a wonderful, inspiring person and people love you. And you're not narcissistic or whiny for posting your story. The page is here for tales. ** I...ju...wha...ISN'T AS BAD AS THE OTHERS HERE?! Have you even read this page? Yours is the longest, most verbose and frankly dramatic piece in these TroperTales, and let no-one claim otherwise! * My [[BiTheWay bisexuality.]] Some sort of denial was obviously involved, but I was perfectly happy with being straight. Then I met this [[HelloNurse girl]], and WHAM! * Today, this troper found out that my chorus director has been fired. The same one whose been there for 25+ years and build the girl's chorus out of nothing. Pardon my french, but... Dammit... Just... Fuck. Just before this troper had to go to chorus camp... With her fired conductor.... Sorry for whining to the Internet. ** Don't apologise. We wouldn't have this page if we didn't want to hear your stories. * hugs* ** This coming from the same kid who posted a choir-related example in the WhamLine page, you have my sympathy. That really, ''really'' sucks. * [[Tropers/RedWren This troper]] had the HollywoodPsych equivalent of one [[PrecisionFStrike hell]] of a victim complex. Basically, anyone who said something bad meant it. Anyone who complimented her wanted something. She realized this was wrong, and suddenly realized that she was actually, well...popular. It's like BeautifulAllAlong, except only I couldn't see it. It also meant that her brother went from {{Jerkass}} who was messing with her to someone frustrated that she couldn't see people actually liked her. * Breakups. They suck ass.

** Or it happens when you catch them with someone else * For me... TODAY... The mother of two close friends (who was also close to my family and me) of mine died... what's worse is that it came out of ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE, it was a normal night so far and then, phone call, then one more. Next thing I heard was my mom shouting WHAT?! Her screaming "I'll call you back!", then talking some more. And then her crying (well... EXTREMELY close to it.) WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN! And then she told my sis and me. [[{{Understatement}} It was not a funny night anymore.]] * The day [[Troper/{{Meshakhad}} This troper]]'s cousin died. He was three months old. And it was Christmas Eve - my grandmother's birthday. * This troper's shocking episode was when her girlfriend broke up with her last year DURING THE FINALS (before summer break). Needless to say, this troper has not yet recovered from the heartbreak having no explanation on why it happened. ** I feel your pain. I got broken up with the week of Christmas, with similarly negligible justification or warning. * My life's been an unpleasant trip from one WhamEpisode to another. The worst one was realizing my [[{{Transsexual}} transsexuality]] hello, 14 years of living a lie! I originally wrote down the other big ones, too, but it just got too depressing. Let's just say that I know lots of people who have been sexually abused or have suffered from eating disorders. Finding out about those is... [[{{Understatement}} not pleasant]]. * This one is pretty much nothing compared to most of the stories on this page. For me? A major Whsm was when Michael Jackson died. I mean, I'm at home, just listening to music and screwing around on some game site, when my friend calls me IN TEARS and tells me Michael Jackson died. I mean, he creeped me out a little, but still. ** For me it was Boyzone's Stephen Gately. I'd spent a lot of time in my early teens swooning about him. Many years later, I was dozing in my room, with the radio on but not listening, and then suddenly I tuned into, "...say they are 'devastated' by the death of Stephen Gately..." That really was a shocker! * When this troper was fifteen, the phone rang, her mother answered, seemed a little annoyed, and when she put the phone back down she said, in a sigh, "X" - X being the boy I had been in love with for my entire childhood and not seen in years at that point - "is dead." He had died of a drug overdose, a couple days before. She hadn't even thought it might [[{{Understatement}} shake me up a little]] - I had never lost anyone before, not even an old grandparent or a pet. This troper cried herself to tears that night, then when her grandfather died the following year, she didn't feel a thing. Four years later, she still has bouts of sobbing at night when thinking about it. This troper now feels absolute hatred for people who so much as smoke a joint, and only contempt for people who think their parents divorcing or getting dumped is absolute drama when no one died. (For the record, she had experienced both of those things as well before and [[AngstWhatAngst wasn't hit by them at all]].) * September 4, 2010, was a WhamEpisode for most of New Zealand. An earthquake measuring 7.1 on the Richter Scale hit Christchurch. Though

a lot of property was destroyed, nobody was killed. Then, yesterday, on February 22nd 2011, another one hit. Magnitude 6.3. The death toll is currently about 80, and is expected to rise. I'm one of the lucky ones - nobody I know was hurt or killed. However, many of my friends have friends or family dead or missing. It's all we can do to keep smiling and hope they're alive. * Having something happen between your parents, knowing they were going to break up due to overhearing a phone call and not being able to tell anyone, then during a fight between dad and me revealing it to him just to hurt him, then feeling horribly guilty, having them break up, learning what broke them up via overhearing another phone call, then just about immediately having your mom start dating a guy who is quite a bit questionable, with your dad trying to open her eyes and that just making relations between them worse. The last few months have been... difficult to say the least. * Being enrolled in a new school a week after moving. Doesn't sound like a wham, but... I was under the impression the move was a temporary stay with family and that my mother and I would be going home again afterwards. Apparently not. * When this Troper's grandmother was diagnosed with cancer, after sixty-something years of smoking, my father flew down to stay with her during her first major surgery. Then this troper's mother pulled her out of class early, teary-eyed, saying there had been a family emergency. A year and a half after my father's sudden death from a heart attack, my grandmother is remarkably healthy. * RealLife example: Living in a small-town in New Hampshire, and then, my parents decide to move to Washington [[ItMakesSenseInContext to send me to a Catholic school]]! Oh, it gets better: we had to rush out of our old house a week before Christmas, and the people who promised to help us move showed up late, and so we were in a huge hurry to load up our stuff. On the way, we hit '''[[BeyondTheImpossible every single snowstorm]]''', and then I ended up [[TwistEnding leaving that school and am now currently doing school online]]. [[FlatWhat What?]] [[NotMakingUpThisDisclaimer No, really.]] * Any time a major YouTubePoop maker is suspended comes as a shock to me. This has been made worse yesterday (posting this 5/24/2011), as '''four''' makers that I liked ([=MustangSally72=], [=OMGulator=], [=CommanderGwonam=] and [=SergeantBacon=]) all got suspended by companies that would have nothing to do with YTP. Inactive Chinese filmmakers that nobody's heard of, a school in Yorkshire, and a ''pen company'' in Taiwan all got these people banned. ** Somewhat related is when YouTube users I like have their works removed for "copyright reasons". Users like {{SFDebris}}, {{LittleKuriboh}} and [[SailorMoonAbridged Megami33]] who are just trying to make fun/informative videos. This is more or less why I dislike copyright laws... * My mother was always very hard on me when I was a child. I was putdown, humiliated and made to feel small, but I could never feel mad at my mom, because she's my mom. I was recounting one of many painful memories during therapy and discussing how I felt guilty and ashamed, and my therapist suddenly said, "Are you aware that these incidents count as child abuse?" No, no I wasn't. It's so strange to suddenly

look back through your childhood memories and realize that the things that seemed so normal (albiet painful) were abusive and completely and utterly unacceptable. * [[Tropers/{{Cuchulainn}} I]] have a couple. One morning, when I was 20, I was woken by the sound of my sister crying, "Mom?" repeatedly(my mom had been sleeping on the living room couch, right next to my room for the last few years, due to health problems preventing her from making it up the stairs). I knew almost immediately she'd died in the night, but, due to my difficult relationship with her, I didn't feel anything, at least not right away. The following summer, my father broke the news that ''his'' father, who ''he'd'' had a hard relationship with due to the old man's alcoholism, had just died of a stroke. A few years after that, I woke to the news that one of my friends from growing up had suddenly dropped dead in the middle of Dunkin Donuts, twenty-two years old. The biggest one so far, though, was when I suddenly got very sick, and had to be hospitalized. This eventually resulted in me having to move out of the house I grew up in. ---Go back to WhamEpisode, which has just been changed forever. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WhamLine * [[Tropers/RedWren This troper]] had one, after coming out to a particular couple as [[BiTheWay bi-/pansexual]]. She was stressed, because she had absolutely no idea how they'd react and their opinion was important to her. Then, the female of the couple: -->''You know...I'm bi.'' * "I love you". AND BE FUCKING CAREFUL WITH IT ** Similarly, with the same warning, though in the opposite direction: "I hate you." This one's harder to remember because people tend to use it meaninglessly, but even if only the other person thinks you mean it, oh man... ** I finally said, "I love you," to my boyfriend after months of cohabitation simply because I take great care with my heart.[[hottip:*:(Long story short, I'm alive simply because my 9year-old self couldn't make a slipknot.)]] It was during a fight and I've already resolved to leave him. But I wasn't lying. Hooray for the duality of the human condition. * "She lost the baby." I didn't even know she was pregnant. * "I'm going to be deployed next week." was thrown at my classmate by her father. * Facebook chat between my male friend and [[Tropers/{{NaomiLawliet}} I]] --->(Conversation about school, life in general) --->Friend: You know something? --->Me: what? --->Friend: You know, I'd totally date you. I've had a crush on you

since last year. It turns out he only didn't tell me because he was afraid dating me would be {{Lolicon}} (He's 18 and I'm 15, [[SarcasmMode what a scandal!!!]]) The bad part underlying all the cuteness? I didn't have a crush on him back. * Interesting facebook exchange: ** Friend:"Dude, I've got a secret, promise not to tell anyone?" ** Me: "Oh it's no problem dude, I usually forget secrets so they're safe with me." ** Friend: "No... you'll remember this one." ** Me: "Oh yeah? o.O" ** Friend: "Yeah... I'm transgender" ** Me: (Usually good with staying cool when WHAM lines attack) Woah. *** If it's a secret, why would you post it on Facebook? *** It could have been in chat. Nothing's changed except that I have to remind myself he considers himself female even though the official operation will be in a year and a half. The WHAM effect hit others harder, unsurprisingly. * This Troper had convinced herself that [[NonActionGuy her guy friend]] had a crush on her, and was really stressing out about it because she doesn't feel that way about him. She comes home, checks her email, and there's an email with him [[StraightGay coming out of the closet]]. Our friendship got much less... awkward? Maybe not the right word, but you know what I mean. * [[{{Tropers/Allronix}} This Troper]] delivered a WhamLine to her class. It was 1993, my sophomore year of high school, and the ''student council'' (no teachers involved here) had [[http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930519&sl ug=1702101 passed a measure]] that would ban those that do not represent "moral character" from running for student office, with a special provision ''including'' homosexuals and bisexuals. This was being seriously debated in her class, and Biblical verses were being thrown around right and left in ''defense'' of this crap, with a lot of nods. Troper spoke up. -->''"Not'' ''everyone'' ''follows the Bible...I'm Pagan."'' * Subverted with my friend and I. First, he made my little brother leave the room. Then he stared at me for a bit... --> Friend: "I'm not gay." --> Me(Annoyed): "So what the fuck are you going to tell me?!" --> Friend: "...I've smoked pot." --> Me(Uber-liberal): "YOU GOT ME ALL EXCITED FOR THAT?! ASSHOLE!" * Went this troper went to a job interview, his mother called him on his cell phone and asked him where he was to follow up on a minor issue, which very quickly fell by the wayside when responded that he was in a ''different state''. * "You're serious about wanting to move back to New York?" Good god, this troper wished she could tell a WhamLine when she heard it, otherwise she would have said the loudest no she could muster. * This Tropette's friend from the gay-straight alliance at her school. "I'm bi, and I'm telling my bible-obsessed, uber-conservative parents over Thanksgiving break." (switches to first person) cut to driving my Grandma crazy asking her if i could use her computer to check Facebook

every few seconds all through Thanksgiving break. * "I'm leaving you". * "I couldn't wake your grandfather this morning. We're in a helicopter now, and We're life lighting to the hospital." * Throughout all four years of college, this Tropette had a male friend. They had been through just about every emotion possible: like, dislike, sexual attraction, until they finally reached a comfortable friendship. Then, a week before this Tropette left town for at least a year, she and her friend went to a party. The next morning, she delivered this line to her sister and her best friend: --> "I had sex with (friend's name here)." ** Also, prior to this party, this Tropette was a virgin. * "After 22 years, he left to go marry a thirty-year-old." * This troper's grandmother casually made a reference to her first husband in conversation, thinking that she had already told her three children that their father was her second husband. She hadn't. My mother, the ''youngest'' of the three, says she was about 19 or 20 when this happened. * This tropette had one when telling a friend about how she lost another friend. --> Me: She was in a coma for a couple of months. --> Friend: So, what happened to her? Did she get out of the coma? --> Me: She...never woke up. ** It reminded me of GraveOfTheFireflies, seeing as Seita says almost exactly the same thing. * ... -->'''This troper''': (To his mother) "Sometimes, I blame you." * This troper's high school choir teacher to her students, after a grim report on our mediocre pre-UIL performance, had to explain to us why she decided to pull us out of the UIL competition: "Guys, I didn't want to tell you this now, and I really didn't want to tell you this at all, but it would be cruel of me to just let you find out on your own." Then, there was the most awful suspenseful pause, and she choked out through her tears, "There's not going to be a choir program next year." This decision has since been repealed by the administration, but it was a horrible shock to all of us then, and in that class period alone, we used up two boxes of tissues and a package of napkins when we ran out of tissues. Even the men--including a senior, who would not have been affected by this--were crying like babies. * One time, I replied to something on AskTheTropers concerning language policy (something along the lines of "Is it bad to use this word?" "Unfortunately, it's against the rules to {{bowdlerize}} it, despite how offensive some people may find it.") A moderator then ''refuted'' my comment, which was the very last response I ever would have expected. It practically threw me into shock -- I felt cold and dizzy for hours afterward, and I could swear I saw the tiniest crack in my JadeColoredGlasses. The statement was eventually revoked by another mod, and the thread was deleted entirely, so it probably counts as a {{subversion}}, but it was still a WhamLine for me. * My favorites: ** Wham line by me: "I don't believe in God anymore". ** Wham line to me: "You are no longer eligible for re-enrollment".

* Happened to this troper one day seven years ago when I came home from school: --> '''Grandma''': Grandpa died this morning. * My dad, my sister and I were eating out for breakfast and the conversation somehow had moved to Dad's mother. Dad said, without giving it any thought, "...and when my dad committed suicide..." and continued as if nothing had happened. It was the first time he had told us how his dad died. My sister and I were about 12 and 15. * " I'm afraid she's gone. Mommy died last night. " ---Go back to WhamLine and give it a moment to sink in. ----

WhatAnIdiot * ThisTroper once... sigh... tried to put on a pair of trousers without realising that there was a clothes-hanger inside them in a fairly unfortunate position to say the least. It hit me in the nuts is what I'm saying. Fun times. At the very least, not many people can claim that's happened to them I'd guess, not that anyone would want to be able to claim that. * You may know that in Spanish, 'aos' means 'years'. Note the little squiggly thing over the 'n' that makes it into "an-yos" rather than "an-os". It's an important distinction as I found out when I handed in a Spanish essay claiming that I was "16 anus old". * I personally think that in SpeedGrapher, Kagura should have hated her mom due to how abusice and dyspassonate she was. She shouldn't have tried to protect her from Suitengu's plot to marry her. And her death should have pleased her instead of shattering her. The way she reacted to her death is the total opposite of the way she should have reacted to it, and she should have been more than willing to leave her to the wolves. * In high school my class had a special test. Some dudes stole the answer sheet with all the correct answers to the test on it and passed to the rest of the class. The school authorities found out. We all had to redo exam. ** '''You'd expect''': Them to replace the questions of the previous test with new ones. *** '''Instead''': It was the same test,same questions. At this point, everyone already knew the answers to the questions so no one had a hard time doing it. For some things there's just no excuse.~Tropers/NTroper * ThisTroper attended school with a guy who believed that dogs and cats were the males and females of the same species. WhatAnIdiot. * Seen on a French newspaper: in the week leading to Christmas 2010, three guys attacked a shop, [[KickTheDog beat up its occupants]] and left with the cash. Two hours later, all three were easily caught by the police. What went wrong with their "perfect" plan? Guys, regardless of the crime you just committed, walking straight from the shop to your hideout is wrong. [[{{Facepalm}} Especially if the ground is covered with a thick layer of snow in which you'll leave deep

footprints.]] * Sometime way back when I was a kid and had those shoes with wheels in them, I was skating around in a gamestop when i rolled ''right into the glass door face first'' and knocked down and fell over a customer that was coming in. After I got up,''I did the exact same thing going back in'', only this time I fell on a small child. The sad part is, even today at 15 years old, he would probably end up somehow doing it again. * A couple of years ago, I went to see [[{{Indiana Jones}} the new Indiana Jones film]] in the cinema with my friends. On coming out after the film had finished and discussing the strange ending, one friend became confused. It turned out that she had had no idea throughout the film who Indiana Jones was and believed he was the female character. And I quote: 'I thought Indiana Jones was a woman.' [[{{Facepalm}} Group facepalm]] * Not even a minute ago I went into my kitchen. The door we mainly use is there. It is 3:29 AM. My parents are asleep and being the brilliant people they are, they left the door open (there's two doors in that doorway, they left the one that isn't mainly window and unable to lock open) with THE FUCKING KEYS IN IT! Thank god I caught that idiocy or who knows what could have happened. ** Same troper, just adding the fact that they've done this before. Many times, but not with the keys in the door normally. ** My brother did this about a month ago, my parents noticed it and locked it * [[{{Crion87}} This normally very intelligent troper]] was seduced by his now ex-girlfriend (who was Caucasian, but with very vague Asian features) whom was after him who claimed to be [[{{DragonLady}} Eurasian]] [[{{ChineseGirl}} via a Chinese father.]] (she turned out to be quarter-Chinese in truth, the rest was white Australian.)\\ '''You'd expect''': He wouldn't believe her and would report her attempts at seduction to the staff at the halfway house she and him were living in at the time.\\ '''Instead''': He let his lusts and then-held belief in {{Sex As Rite Of Passage}} get ahead of him, leading to {{Smoking Hot Sex}} (the girl was the smoker, not the troper - this troper still does not smoke).\\ '''[[{{ItGotWorse}} It Gets Worse]]''': The girl in question, may look like a cute 19-year old young woman, but is {{Older Than They Look}}, an [[{{DrugsAreBad}} ex-junkie]] and an [[{{HookerWithAHeartOfGold}} ex-hooker]], [[{{ArsonMurderAndJaywalking}} and a]] JohnnyCash [[{{ArsonMurderAndJaywalking}} fan]], [[{{Fan Disservice}} which all]] [[{{Tear Jerker}} add up to]] [[{{Squick}} one thing]]...for those who don't like the [[{{Hurt Comfort Fic}} past-hurt present-comfort]] thing, use the {{Brain Bleach}} provided with the door to your right.\\ '''Finally''': [[{{Crion87}} This troper]] would [[{{TheAtoner}} like to express his sincerest regrets]] in the above actions, especially considering it was [[{{YourCheatingHeart}} two-timing]] [[{{WhatTheHellHero}} on someone he actually came to care about later on]] - however, due to her [[{{TheFundamentalist}} Bible-bashing (or Bible-thumping) religious beliefs]] [[{{SarcasmMode}} being very much

in accordance with her actions]], she blamed DemonicPossession (basically AliensMadeThemDoIt without the extraterrestrials). If there was a DethroningMomentOfSuck page for TroperTales, this troper would put this here as well. Perhaps [[{{StarWars}} Anakin Skywalker]] should have talked to me before going after Padme Amidala (except that the roles were slightly and inexplicably reversed in that case and said first-time experience may have looked [[{{NaiveEverygirl}} the Padme]] but was more personality-wise [[{{TheCorrupter}} the Palpatine]])...\\ '''Besides''': The relationship (such as it was) was based primarily on FoeYay. * This Troper, while at school, had a reasonably bright friend who, in ONE WEEK, burned holes in his T-shirt with an induction coil in Physics, blew the lights in a whole block by putting a paperclip in two holes of a powerpoint in English, and decided to sit on a secondfloor air conditioner outside a window in Maths. For additional stupidity, the rest of the Maths class (but not this Troper) decided that the best option was to hold the window shut, forcing him to go via an occupied classroom. ** How do you stick a paperclip into a computer program? ** Very carefully ** It's the Australian term for an electrical socket, guys. * This troper's brother once decided to ''stick his nose in a bottle of vinegar''. Even though he'd been through high school science classes. He claims to not remember the event. ** Of course, it eventually became an amusing case of hypocrisy, as the troper herself wound up doing the same thing... ''out of curiosity''. ''She had been in high school science classes herself''. My only words: NEVER AGAIN! * While reading a textbook and doing homework (AP homework no less) this troper misread the word "seesawed" as "Sees(rhymes with fleece)a-wed." Also, one of her friends asked "what color's the reddish brown one?" and thought that woodchucks were mythical creatures... * Actually there's been something that [[MightyKombat thiss troper]] has meant to say but just couldn't. Well, here it is: Although not a self inflicted What An Idiot moment, this troper has been ASTOUNDED at the amount of times someone has misspelt a fictional character's name, when it is quite CLEARLY spelt on screen. Sure, you can get away with [[MortalKombat Shao Kahn/Khan]] thanks to RougeAnglesOfSatin, but jeez, who the heck can misspell [[TheKingOfFighters Shermie]] as "Saermie"? Or [[MetalGear Ocelot]] as "Ozelot"? Jeez, man. ** Well they might be from a culture other than your own, that ozelot thing, for example, sounds german. This troper routinely doesn't know if a he should use an S or a Z in z-sounding places. (thank god for [[TechnoBabble Spell-checker]] though) ** No way, the German "z" is pronounced somewhat like a "ts". But yeah, it's be pretty likely for German people to use C instead of a K/S/Z/anything else because it looks foreign, so yeah. ** This other troper wants to give a special shoutout to Pokemon fans who should ''really'' know better. Particular spelling offenders include Treecko as "Treeko," Gastly as "Ghastly," and Onix as "Onyx." Did they even play the game?

*** BigNameFan Dragonfree compiled a [[http://www.dragonflycave.com/names.aspx list of common Pokmon name misspellings]], and a reference for all Pokmon names. ** This troper fairly frequently gets people misspelling her name in email replies. To her email address. Which is her name. Some people apparently just can't read. * There is this GameFaqs user, she is a fans of this one game and ''absolutley'' hates the main heroine, simply because she thinks that the said heroine is ugly and there is another character that has a YamatoNadeshiko personality and a greater design, so she bashes the heroine everytime to the point she even said that "****** is sucks because she has a very ugly design! Me? I'll use XXXXXX because she is cuter!" yeah, she is that dumb, oh and by the way this happened before the game is ''still in development''. ** Ironically after the game is released it turns out the heroine is a very good character both in story and gameplay, in the other hand the other girl XXXXXX turns out to be very suck either way and a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] for most player, well ever since the release date of the game...she was never seen again on the board, nice way to save your ass. * [[NeotheSaiyanangel This troper]] has managed to walk right into a door, thinking it was a push instead of a pull, not once, not twice, not even three times, but at least a ''dozen'' times. At ''least''. ** Compare walking right into a door because you ''forgot that you had to open it before walking through''. Twice in the same day, and then a few times later on too. *** Compare running to a door that is about to close soon, reaching for the handle to grab it... Then realizing you reached for the WRONG SIDE OF THE DOOR. YES MY FINGERS DID GET CAUGHT IN THE DOOR FRAME AND YES IT DID HURT LIKE HELL. ** That's nothing, [[PurplePantherGirl this troper]] ran into a ''swing door''. Yes, a door you can push and pull. * In eighth grade, a normal, boring algebra class for [[{{mysterynovelist}} this troper]] took a turn for the 'what the f-?!' when one of this troper's classmates glued two of his ''fingers'' together! He had asked one of this troper's other classmates for the glue to do it. ** '''You'd expect''': For the the other classmate to tell him no. *** '''However''': She ''gave'' the glue to him. ** A guy in my math class cut his arm with siccsors. He was trying to cut his arm hair off he was 13. * This troper's sister noticed one of those fake banner ads that disguise themselves as Windows banners and told me, because of ONE AD, that I'm automatically not allowed on any websites that have those. I'm sorry, but there are several things incredibly wrong with that statement. for one, they are so freaking common that it'd be next to impossible to not find a website that has one. Two, you'd have to be [[TooDumbToLive dumb as a brick]] to be tricked into clicking it due to how obvious the scam is to smart users, and it doesn't unload the viruses until you've actually clicked it. THREE, there have been several websites that had the banner ad that caused no ill effects on said computer, making her argument incredibly egregious. She's

treating it like she found me [[DisproportionateRetribution chatting with terrorists!]] ** Or just download AdBlock? * This troper face palmed several times in his level 300 English class at college when another student, who was a grown man by the way, assumed that our assignment, which was to take an editor's analysis of a piece of literature and put it in our own words, would be plagiarizing the editor's work. He was clearly confused and/or misinformed about what exactly plagiarism meant, but he believed that rewording someone's work and citing it was stealing the work just because we weren't asked by the professor to use our own ideas. Even after the professor and two other students tried to explain to the man what exactly we had to do and how it was NOT plagiarism, he still thought it was. ** Did you cite your sources? If you didn't, then it IS plagiarism. *** S/He DID cite it. Read through it more carefully. * [[RayAyanami This troper]], at a mall, was confronted by a man who claimed to be a Christian (like said troper), who asked him to lend him $40 for a hotel room. The man persistently persuades him, telling him that "it's okay, I'm a Christian," and that he doesn't need to call his mom about it.\\ '''You'd expect:''' This troper to realize, "why am I lending money to a stranger?", see through his coercions, lie about being broke, and walk away.\\ '''Instead:''' He forks over the $40, which was half of the $80 his mom had given him that day to buy stuff. (The other half had already gone into buying ''[[PanelDePon Planet Puzzle League]]''.) He also gives the man his number...without asking for the man's. To this day, this moment remains a serious DethroningMomentOfSuck that makes this troper hate himself at times. ** Today, this troper went to a section of his calculus class that preceded his section, so as to allocate time to study for a midterm later that day. He also had homework due. \\ '''You'd expect:''' Him to simply mark on his homework that he's from the succeeding section, turn in his homework, and go. \\ '''Instead:''' He asks the professor while she's in the middle of lecturing, and when class ends, she ''yells at him for his rudeness''. He tries to apologize, but is scolded some more and told to not come to class if he's "gonna [[DethroningMomentOfSuck behave like that]]." To this troper, he might as well have punched his professor in the face, as it would've yielded the same effect. \\ '''ItGetsWorse:''' He was unable to focus on studying for his midterm the whole time, feeling like complete shit. Now he doesn't want to go to the next class meeting. Or go to class ever again. ** Some time ago, the ShootEmUp ''Border Down'' got released on the then-comatose Dreamcast. This troper wanted it, but didn't feel like it because he stopped using his Dreamcast. \\ '''You'd expect:''' For me to buy it at release anyway, since after all I'm a shmup fanatic and I could use it just in case I decided to revive my Dreamcast. \\ '''Instead:''' I didn't bother, and now it's [[http://www.google.com/products?q=%22border+ down%22+ %2Bdreamcast at

least $130 on online shops]]. FML * This Troper managed to waste the best part of an hour hunting high and low for her lost glasses, before a friend pointed out that she was already wearing them. Oh the shame...Fortunately the friend cannot mock her anymore as she herself caught the IdiotBall a week later by managing to drop a laptop on her face and give herself a black eye. Every cloud. ** How the hell did she manage to do that? ** Well, actually, you're just human. No, I mean, really. It's part of [[HumansAreSpecial human psychology]]. We're [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_overload bombarded]] with such huge amounts of raw data on a regular basis that sapient minds discard any data that doesn't seem strictly pertinent (see: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_adaptation Neural adaption]]). If you've worn glasses the majority of your life, this includes them. Happens to me all the time: ---> Father: "Hey, hand me that {{MacGuffin}}." ---> Troper: "Sure! Where is it?" ---> Father: "''...in your freakin' hand.''" ---> Troper: "Oh! [[ForgotICouldFly Forgot I was holding it]]." * This Troper once ended up eating lunch whilst some members of his social circle decided it would be a 'brilliant' idea to snort pure citric acid, to see what would happen. I had to pretend that I had nothing to do with them as one full-on screamed and tried to remove the entirety of his inner nostril, another went blind in one eye for half an hour, and the third just sat there and stared at a wall for a while, crying... * When I was in my school library researching for a paper, someone tried to scan something from a newspaper or something (which you need to do for no obvious reason). The article was too big to get in one scan. Rather than scan it twice, he decided to slide it over the scanner because he thought it would get more that way. When the copy came out, it was a big grey blob on paper, ''and he could not figure out why.'' It kinda makes sense that he wouldn't want to scan twice, because the cheap school system makes us pay to use the copier, but that was just stupid. * This troper heard a story (confirmed by a teacher) about a high school couple that REALLY wanted to "do the dirty." At school. Instead of doing it in, say, a car or a closet, the couple did it outside. On a tennis court. Right before school when the coaches were outside. ** Ha! This troper heard tell from her brother that a friend of her's, for some unfathomable reason, decided to screw her boyfriend ''in the girl's bathroom during school''. After said friend claimed to only think sex was used for reproduction and never for pleasure. The entire situation was extremely weird though, since this troper strongly suspects that the friend had been lying about stuff before and this troper wasn't attending the high school it happened in (so no firsthand accounts). All this troper knows is that the friend's boyfriend vanished for some time before the two were seen hanging around together. Neither of them (or this troper's boyfriend, who seems to know more than he's letting on) will tell her anything. * One kid at this troper's school asked a girl whether the bathroom

was the boy's bathroom. As the girl was walking out of it. And another girl was walking into it. And the "Girl's bathroom" sign was visible on the door. In the eighth grade. ** This troper has walked into the men's room by mistake ''twice''. To her credit, the first time it was very late at night and the second time it was during a horrible heat wave (so not really thinking clearly). The first time was worse really, since it was a Halloween party and this troper walked in ''wearing a wedding dress'' and came back out to see that a couple of chaperons saw the whole thing. * After an english test recently, a girl who turned in her test went over to the garbage can to throw away her cheat sheet. In front of the teacher. * This troper once thought that she had left her science binder at lunch and asked her teacher if she could go and get it. She hurried out of the classroom, went to the bench, and didn't find it. She knew she'd taken it out of her locker, and couldn't think of any other place, and so returned to class. There was her binder, on the desk, and the boys who sat around her were looking at her funny. Turned out they'd grabbed it when she wasn't looking as a joke. * facepalm* ** [[{{Liangnui}} I]] managed to do that with a freaking ''eraser'' (and no, I don't know why the concept of a missing art eraser bothered me so damn much). No one grabbed it, but I'd thought the thing had fallen out of my backpack. I even went back to my previous class to look for it (which got me odd looks from everyone and a very awkward interrogation from my brother). Turns out the damn thing was under a sheet of notebook paper in the classroom. On my desk. Cue FacePalm. ** [[{{Tropers/Monoxide}} This supposedly-intelligent Troper]] did something similar with her lunchbox; looked in her bag at lunch, couldn't find it, so she went to her previous two classrooms, which were on practically opposite sides of the school AND she also had to find the teachers who had the keys. She got back to where she sits...and it's under her friend's bag. She tried hard not to brick herself in the head after that incident. * This troper once took a course on Greek Art and Archaeology, a graduate level course, the junior year of undergrad. The course was about six people who all knew each other and had taken many courses with the professor, who is highly respected in his field. With this course pushing me up to twenty-one credits for the quarter when the usual load is twelve or sixteen. That in itself was plenty idiotic, but the pressure to impress them all/hold my own in addition to all the work of carrying oh god-many courses led to some amazingly boneheaded questions on my part. ** One weekend we decided to borrow a university van and take a class trip up to Cleveland to see their Greek art display. This university is in the southeastern corner of Ohio. Cleveland is in the northeastern corner of Ohio. One does not leave the state when driving between Cleveland and Athens. But since the last few long, long car trips I'd taken before this one all went out to the east coast, after a few hours I reflexively asked "So are we into West Virginia yet?" ** A big project in the course was for each student to teach an hour lesson on some particularly notable piece of Classical art. Mine went off mostly hitch-free, but one of the students after me lectured on a

masterwork sculpture that had been designed for people to view it from all sides, since it sat out in the middle of a temple way back when it was carved. It currently resides in a niche in the Vatican palace. My question: "but if it's in that little corner, how were people supposed to see the back?" * This troper, during her freshman year of college, took an English survey course taught by this fantastic older Englishman who had mentioned, during the first class, that he got his start in journalism (and also that barbed wire settled the American West). And then a month or so later journalism school came up during class, and one of her classmates informed everyone that it didn't exist, no really. (Professor: ... yes it does. We used to call it j-school. Classmate: No it doesn't! Seriously!) * This troper is in a Youtube community, that sadly composes mainly of whiny, spoiled, or misbehaved people. I'd said that one of the people was acting rather stupid, next thing I know, he's already off his little prepubescent butt telling everyone about how "mean" I am. Sadly, they all believe him, and think I'M the jackass, just for venting about stupid everyone was acting, after roughly 2 years of putting up with such nonsense. I'll probably be making a new Youtube identity by the end of the year. That's how BAD these people act. ** This troper sympathizes and would like to add that she fell prey to the idiocy with arguing with a white supremacist on a video for a trailer of ''ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' (he kept insisting that Disney had "sold out", were wusses for not releasing ''SongOfTheSouth'', and that there was some kind of a black conspiracy going on). She also was enough of an idiot to suggest that there was something irresponsible about a guy in a video who paid his pre-teen son five bucks to wear a dog's collar and walk through the border of an invisible fence (she was called a liberal wuss for that). *** It's ''[[YouTube YouTube]]''! What do you expect? * [[{{Icalasari}} This Troper]] once grabbed a plate that I heated a marshmallow on (What? I wanted a smore ;.;) and burned himself ** '''You would expect''' me to let it cool down *** '''Instead''', I grabbed the plate AGAIN. Within FIVE seconds. Needless to say, the blisters hurt like hell in the following days. ** This troper does the same thing with hot chocolate. And then she wondered why food tasted weird for a week after. * In my high school, which is supposedly the best public one in the state, a kid decides that it would be a good joke to steal ''copper sulfate'' from the labs and ''put it into the football team's Gatorade''. Do I need to say more? Thankfully, nobody died, but the members who drank it were sent to the hospital in critical condition and the team could not play that season. The idiot got expelled. ** ''Only expelled?'' Not arrested? ** [[http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/51558/ This.]] First result on Google. * [[TheViolentTomboy This troper]] actually met two different people in chatrooms who truly believed that she was a boy on the basis of her screenname. The last time I checked, tomboys are generally ''female''. In one case, after another person in the chatroom informed the idiot that tomboys are girls who act like boys, the idiot asked me if that

meant I was ''gay''. ** People would have an excuse if they did that to me, but somehow, no-one ever has. Seeing as my username is my last name, which also happens to be a popular name for a boy... * When the venerable old crossing guard of the nearby intersection got hit by a car, it was met with fear and who they'll [[ReplacementScrappy replace him with.]] The township had other ideas. ** '''You'd expect''' them to replace the crossing guard and let it go by as usual. *** '''Instead''' they completely scrapped any hopes for a new crossing guard, and pretty much expected us to take the bus, without considering the fact that the bus-stop is practically a MILE AWAY and most don't know where the bus stop is anyway and rather walk. *** '''ItGetsWorse''' The backlash against this decision was [[{{Understatement}} quite large]], with concerned parents bemoaning the lack of a proper crossing guard. What does the district do? NOTHING. * One time in class, I randomly thought to myself "I wonder if this staple will go into my finger if I press down on the stapler slowly" Needless to say, it did, there was blood, and the whole class pretty much gave me a What An Idiot look. * This troper had been complaining about a [[YouTube Youtube]] user who had been annoying me for two months straight. I'd try asking a few "friends" to help me with the ordeal. \\ '''You would expect''' They would either give me advise on how to deal with the situation, or give me a semi-productive way to get my mind off the spammer. \\ '''Instead''' They get mad at ME for being annoyed at someone they somehow magically decided to view as a good fellow user. Not fair. * This troper's son was playing {{Left4Dead}} on this troper's account when someone asked him (via voice chat) if he was a [[{{ItMakesSenseinContext}} Jamaican girl named Ellen.]] This troper's son then explained that he was playing on his father's account using his father's screen name. Cue a beat, followed by a confused question: "So your dad's a Jamaican girl named Ellen?" * This troper remembers when he and his old friend got into the Yu-GiOh card game. He had all fakes (like 8 stars, 400 attack, no really, ALL of them looked nothing like the real design). He refused to listen to me and kept yelling 'I read the damn manual you know stars win!'. Crosses over with [[ReadTheFreakingManual didn't read the manual]], but they were noticeable from a mile away. So yeah. * This one requires setup. At my high school, there was one math teacher for all four years. Said teacher required students to have a TI-83 series (later TI-84) graphing calculator, which they would use for all four years. In recognition that not all students would easily be able to afford the $140 plus calculator after spending a like amount on informs, metal fees, and the like, he offered loaner calculators with a parental signature. The first lesson of the class was securing your calculator, in which he showed how to find the unalterable serial number hidden in the BIOS, which he recommended you record. A student, having lost his and not wanting his parents to find out, forged his mothers signature on the loan form, then took the

loaner the loaner to the shop, scratched off the teacher's name from the back, and covered it with a label. Apart from doing a very poor job of obliterating the name (he didn't use a file, but used an awl, which is essentially a metal pencil) leaving very obvious marks all over the back, but he did not replace the batteries, which were a special brand the teacher imported in bulk from a company in Colorado. He's the only one in the district to use that brand. * [[IcefyreStorm This Troper]] now knows that some people in her Chinese class can't count. We were playing a game where we were in a circle, saying numbers in Chinese in order going around the circle, and you had to clap your hands if you were up to a multiple of three or a number with three in it (she can't remember the name of the game). Every time we either said one of the forbidden numbers or clapped when you shouldn't have, you got a strike, and when you got three, you had to get up and try to draw a Chinese character with your butt. One of my classmates (and he's in Grade 8, for god's sake) managed to pull off an epic fail and had to get up three times. He also had a strike extra against him when we stopped. How stupid. ** Kay wait. ''Draw a Chinese character with your butt?'' *** This Troper is appalled by the former Troper! Who on earth doesn't a good ol' game of ''Kanji-Butt?'' Madness I tell you! [[SarcasmMode MADNESS]]! **** [[ThreeHundred Madness?]] [=~This! Is! SPARTA!~=] *[[Tropers.ReikoKazama Reiko-chan]] kicks the above troper into a conveniently placed pit* * One of this troper's high school classmates decided to bring a particularly nasty type of stink bomb to school one day, with full intention of using it.\\ '''You'd Expect:''' That he'd set it off in one of the hallways, so as to stink out as many people as possible and hopefully slip away unnoticed before anyone could realize what was happening.\\ '''Instead:''' He set it off in the middle of math class. From a table that was sat on the end of his particular row. And next to a wall. And about ten feet away from the teacher's desk. To absolutely no-one surprise he was instantly caught, and earned a week of after-school detention for his trouble. * One of this troper's primary school friends somehow ''poured powdered citric acid into his eye.'' '''You'd expect:''' He would get himself to the sick bay and get it cleaned up. '''Instead:''' He fell over, spent the next three hours trying to wipe it out with a towel. * [[{{Netbug009}} This troper]] had a science injury teacher in the 9th grade who... well... Anybody remember that experiment where you heat a soda can over a candle, and then when you put it in water the can implodes and releases a puff of smoke? My usually rather smart and awesome teacher had placed the smoke-inducing water tub ''right under the smoke alarm.'' The fire alarms went off... ''throughout the entire high school of 2500 students.'' Everybody had to go outside and wait in the cold for the fire department to come. * This troper remembers a biology exam where the teacher gave a question about the primary source of sunlight for plants. All four

multiple choice answers had the word "sun", obviously meant for free points. Apparently, the teacher wanted to see what the most popular letter chosen was. ** '''You expect''': Pick an answer and get free points. ** '''Instead''': Someone managed to get it wrong...because they never put down an answer. The teacher was understandably surprised... * Less "What An Idiot" and more "What An Asshole": this troper used to live with a war vet as live-in help, so his health and mental faculties weren't the best. However, it resulted in quite a few moments: ** It's coming to the first of August during one of the most unbearable summers we've ever encountered. There's no central air, he's already missed several months worth of bill payments due to frivolous spending (bringing us dangerously close to the third eviction in a row we've had, as a result), and he's been promising me a brand new laptop during that time, to replace the one that was destroyed by his dog.\\ '''You'd expect''' him to use his monthly stipend first to ensure all the bills got paid, then buy air conditioners to help make the summer bearable (or look into fixing the central air), and then see about fulfilling his computer promise.\\ '''Instead''' he blatantly ignores all of the above, and goes directly from the bank to Wal-Mart to buy himself a snazzy new desktop for ''himself''. And when reminded of the more important things he needed to do with his money, he snaps and threatens to buy a computer ''twice as expensive'', if I didn't shut up. ** The guy starts gorging himself on diet soda, spending upwards of ''$50'' on entire cases of the stuff, that he goes through in a matter of days. As a result, his medical visits to the VA start going up in frequency due to wildly fluctuating blood sugar, and he starts wearing adult diapers due to growing incontinence. Eventually, he's placed on a 2-liter-a-day liquid restriction, caused by the start of ''renal failure'' as a result of all of the soda he's been drinking.\\ '''You'd expect''' him to finally take this as a wake-up call, realize what he's doing to his body, and respect the doctor's wishes, cutting back on his soda intake to help steady his health.\\ '''Instead''' he ignores this, actually ''ups his soda intake'', and outright ''lies'' about the reason he was put on the restriction, in the first place, when confronted, saying it was due to "hypertension of the heart". ** Finally, he's forced to move into an assisted living home, due to the above, but knows he still has outstanding bills, and he still needs to take care of me and my boyfriend, neither of whom have any other place to go, should he abandon us.\\ '''You'd expect''' him to leave enough money in his account for us to take care of the bills and continue to live on our own, until we're able to support ourselves (which he actually promised to do).\\ '''Instead''' he abandons us and vanishes from the face of the earth, refusing to acknowledge that we did anything to help him (which, for being live-in help and ''bailing him out of his missed bill payments'', would be obvious to anyone that we did), and demonizing us as hateful moochers.\\

Yeah, the guy's a prime example of how being a CompleteMonster goes hand-in-hand with this trope, and yes, I'm still bitter over it. *** Look on the bright side, he suffered and is most likely dead. * When this troper was in high school, she and a sort-of friend were on their way to lunch when they saw some moron pulling the fire alarm down halfway. When she yelled at him to stop, he insisted that he only wanted to see how far he could take it before it went off and that no harm was done. We get two steps before the alarm goes off. Apparently the idiot was caught with a knife and cigarette lighter as well, so yeah. * When this troper was younger, she and her two friends decided to lift her up in the air on their hands (like cheerleaders do) so she could climb a tree and pick some fruit up there. The instant it was suggested, this troper ''knew'' she was going to fall off. But she let them lift her up anyway. Why? Because even at that young age, this troper had a love for slapstick-ish humor and thought the end results would be too hilarious to miss. They were. * [[{{Clevomon}} This Troper]], in one of her... less-than-brilliant moments, was trying to finish up a paper early in the morning in her dorm room while her roommate was asleep. Finished it and needed to print it, but was worried about waking up her roommate with the noise the printer made with class in about a half an hour. Her brilliant solution? Wake up roommate in order to ask permission to use printer on the off-chance it might wake up the roommate. Roommate... was not happy. ** Are you by any chance blond? Change your delivery and you've got a perfect dumb blond joke. *** Very brunette, actually, and not much of anything in the looks department. More along the lines of DitzyGenius than anything. * I'm fortunate the end results weren't a lot worse, but the following is the longest series of decisions I've held onto the idiot ball while making: ** I'm out on my own, and a complete stranger says he needs change for two twenties, but actually has left the money back at his place the next train station over. *** '''You'd think I'd:''' see right through this, politely decline and be on my way. *** '''Instead I''': hand a complete stranger $40 and take the train over with him. ** We get out of the train, end up walking much further than he claimed we would. He starts getting agitated that I opted to come with him instead of trusting him to get back with my money, but refuses to just give me the money back and call the deal off. *** '''You'd think I'd''': Accept that money as being as good as gone at this point, rather than continuing to follow a stranger who is now angry at me through unfamiliar and increasingly sketchy territory. *** '''Instead I''': Keep going. ** At this point there's kind of a heated argument, and he insists on throwing the money back in my bag rather than hand it to me. I accept this, and of course after he's run off I find he just threw a single 10 dollar bill in. I'm not even going to frame that last one as an idiot moment though, because it honestly did seem like my options were

either losing 40 bucks (or in this case actually 30) or getting beat up and/or killed in an alley somewhere, and the former is vastly preferable. * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]]'s brother-in-law seems to have a problem budgeting his purchases and keeping priories straight, which often leads to almost textbook examples of this trope. For example, his check just came in, and his car was needing it's oil changed, it's timing belt changed, yet he wanted to take a trip out of town that weekend.\\ '''You'd expect''': He'd take care of the car first, and wait on the trip until his next check\\ '''Instead''': He leaves on the trip; knowing fully that his oil is in desperate need of a changing and that his timing belt is on the verge of breaking. ** Also, during said trip (Which I came along on), he bought himself a new radio for his car, seeing as it's factory radio was pretty much dead.\\ '''You'd expect''': He'd wait until he got home to install it and take the time to set it up properly\\ '''Instead''': He begins trying to install it while we're in the parking lot, claiming it's going to be easy and only take a few minutes. It took him nearly an hour because of constant interruptions brought on by needing someone to go down to the nearby hardware store and fetch something he was needing (Yeah; he didn't even have all the tools he needed before he began). * This troper's dad applies. Because his dad doesn't seem to know how to knock like...''at all''. Without regards for privacy or manners, he just barges ''right on in'' to the room. This is especially annoying when I'm in the bathroom and he does this. So he got an idea to try teaching his dad how to knock. He camped out in his bedroom, then lock the door. Finally, his dad wanted to get into his room...but the door was locked. So after he turned the knob a few times and tried to pull, he should have realized that the door was locked.\\ '''You'd expect''': That Dad would knock on the door to get my attention to the locked door.\\ '''Instead''': He spent three minutes trying repeatedly (and failing) to open the locked door. not ''once'' did the concept of knocking on the door cross his mind. * While in high school, there was an upcoming math test. I got the answers from someone.\\ '''You'd expect''': For me to fill out the test sheet with the answers that I was given hidden away.\\ '''Instead''': I fill out the entire scantron sheet with all the answers before that class. While passing out the test, my teacher sees my scantron flipped over. He flips it over and sees all of the answers filled out. Needless to say, I got a zero. * I was a horny boy, getting into all sorts of trouble. I was in a park where two girls and a guy was sitting. The guy tells me that one of them wants to give me, a complete stanger, a kiss.\\ '''You'd expect''': For me to ignore them and move on.\\ '''Instead''': I stop, ask the girl if she's sure until she says yes. Then I move in to kiss her. The boy tackles me out of the way, and I

try to cover up my embarassment by saying "I knew yall were joking!" * This troper has the joy of spending time with this one girl in her classes. She has had this girl in her classes every year since 7th grade, excluding 9th. I don't even have a clue how she got into the High School. ** During math, which, lucky me, we've signed up for the same math class next year, we got our schedules for the next "trimester." Suddenly, every horrible thing she'd done to me, every terribly rude comment she'd said about me when she was standing right next to me, was okay, when she exclaimed: "Intermediate Ceramics?! I haven't even taken Ceramics 2!" ** It became less funny when I realized I had Intermediate Ceramics as well. It became okay again when during Intermediate Ceramics, two other students were having a lengthy and quite hilarious conversation about summoning a bird named Charles. She proceeded to correct them, telling them it would be "Two eagles because Charles is plural." * This Trooper was in Intermediate Computer Graphics, working on our "money" project, where we were supposed to design money based on a pop culture figure, or a historical one. One girl in front of me chose Marilyn Monroe, and ended up stating that she wished she was Marilyn Monroe. This was a "What an Idiot" moment, since Marilyn Monroe had a mental illness and committed suicide... ** Suuuuuuuurrrrrreeeeee she did... *** Reminds me of the song 'Richard Corey'. In the last verse, the title character (man who has everything) kills himself, but the singer keeps singer "but I wish that I could be Richard Corey". * This Troper's Parental Unit One once went for new gas, at the gas station an absolute stranger he never saw before approached him and asked for 50 (~$65), claiming to live on the same street without ever mentioning which. The reason was that the door closed behind them, leaving them without money or keys. The question is what did they do on the gas station very far away from the street?\\ '''You'd expect''': Parental Unit One to refuse suspiciously or at least get all the contact data of that person possible, driving them to the key aid, not going away from their side until they got their door back and PUO his money.\\ '''instead''' Parental Unit One just gave the man the money without even asking for his NAME. Therefore, even the later "looking for his house" was completely futile because one can't find the address of someone the name is not known of. This shows that this Troper obviously got her intelligence from Parental Unit One, as Parental Unit Two still has hers. * There's a girl at this troper's high school (one of his more close friends, as it's a very small school) that isn't the brightest bulb in the box, but hadn't ever said anything THIS dumb before. In the 20082009 year (we were Sophomores), a group was looking for members of the school to see if they wanted to go to Europe. She asked, "How will you get there?" The teacher in charge of the organization said, "Fly, of course. How else?" Her response: "Can't you just drive there?" Needless to say, [[NeverLiveItDown the teacher never lets her live it down]], and it's an OldShame for her when someone mentions it. * When I was in 5th grade, I answered a science question on a review

wrong by putting "Relative Balance". While I now forget the actual answer, the teacher pointed out that I was close, but I wrote the wrong word (it wasn't "relative"). So when the actual test comes out: '''You'd Expect''': I put the correct answer down. '''Instead''': I put "Relative Balance" as the answer. The teacher [[FacePalm facepalmed]]... * One week in class, we were going to watch M*A*S*H* (The film) and our lecturer commented on the irony of it all, as Robert Altman had died the previous day. One of my classmates chimed in with "Yeah, and the guy who directed it died as well." * I try to pull open a door to no avail, so the person behind me points to the sign that says, "push". I laugh a little, say, "Whoops, that was stupid of me", then ''try to pull the door open harder''. It took me a few seconds to realize this before pushing. The person behind me had a pretty big grin on his face. * I'm talking to my best friend on phone when she is on the public bus, and just for the lulz, I decide to push her buttons (it's really easy) and soon she's having a major spazz out. I then ask her if people were staring at her while we're having this conversation. ** '''You'd expect''': That she immediately hang up on me to save herself from further embarrassment. ** '''Instead''': She started wailing harder that yes, people are, and thus gaining more attention. This goes on for a few more minutes at her expense (and my amusement) before I finally decide to spare her and tell her to call back when we meet up. For further lulz, when we do meet up, she told me that three guys hit on her, insisting that she should dump her bastard boyfriend and go with them. I lol'd so hard at that. (In case I didn't make it obvious, I am a girl.) She then told me that she'd later call her actual boyfriend (whom she loves very much) to beat the crap out of me for getting her hit on. I'm not that worried. Both of them love me, much to their chagrin ^-^. * This troper can think of two examples: ** First, when he was in college; he lent over a busen burner to see if it was on... It was, he had no eyebrow for several months ** Second, He was once making caramel and so had melted sugar boiling on the hob. He wanted to see how hot it was... so he dipped his finger into it. The whole block heard may scream. * This tropette is normally [[DitzyGenius very smart, but a bit off center]]. When she got her locker assignment for school, she tried opening it a few times. ** '''You would expect''' her to practice a few times. ** '''Instead''', she slid the paper with her combination inside through the slits in her locker, then promptly forgot the combination. It took about 5-10 minutes before she remembered the combination. By then, a crowd had formed. * This troper just bought her textbooks from the school bookstore. She then realized that there was no way she was going to be able to walk the half-mile to the subway with 30 extra pounds on her shoulder (the backpack she ordered hasn't come yet, so she's carrying everything around in her laptop bag, which is already damn heavy due to her laptop). She is currently sitting in the cafeteria writing this Troper Tale and wishing there were a TT page for Didn't Think This Through,

where it probably fits better... * * Hint: if you want to make a smoke bomb from sugar and potassium nitrate don't: ** 1) place a kilo of each in a frying pan and place it exposed on the oven's hot plate and ** 2) don't do in the kitchen. * Or if you choose to ignore the first two points at least remember the most essential point ** 3) don't do it while you parents are home. * This troper tripped up on points 1 and 2 but I always remember point 3. Just like when I accidentally set off a meter of fast burning fuse wire rolled up in a coil in the living room. * This troper has snorted sherbert....several times...And crushed lucozade tabs...and sugar....and slush puppy (shaved ice and syrup drink). * [[ChrisHighwind This troper]] has a 14-year-old roommate, who has a nasty temper, so much so that he used a door to put a hole in the wall once, so he can't bring himself to refuse any request to borrow his stuff. So, the roommate was playing BatmanArkhamAsylum and was going through the tutorial. Now, this wouldn't be so bad but, even after being told umpteen times, he kept asking me ''every time'' which shoulder button or control stick button was which, even if he had thought that that particular button was a different button altogether earlier! Eventually he gave up, stating that the game was "too complicated", and just decided to play [[NeedForSpeed Carbon]] instead. Yeah, it's too complicated since you have to actually ''learn the freaking controller''! * Just today, [[{{Leliel}} this troper's]] father tried to explain why there was now $1,300 dollars withdrawn in 100 dollar bills from the family's account...''[[TooDumbToLive when he had withdrawn the cash himself to pay for a warehouse]]''. And he got mad at Mom because he forgot! * Not a personal example, but [[Tropers.VmKid this troper]] got in a flame war with a YouTube commenter who said that SamAndMax was a boring game because "all you do is click and take to fcking wierdos" [[YouMakeMeSic (sic)]] and because there was "no action". Said commenter eventually resolved to making fun of the way this troper looks. Also doubles as my own personal CMOA. * A few days ago, [[{{Fairy Dreamer}} this troper's]] little sister was upset and frustrated for seemingly no reason. I asked her what was wrong and she said her cell phone charger was broken and her cell phone was dead, so she couldn't call her friend. When I asked her how it was broken, she said it wouldn't fit in the phone anymore and it should've because it wasn't damaged. So I told her to show me and she did so. Guess why the phone charger didn't fit? She had the wrong phone! She had our mother's phone instead of hers! And it's easy to tell whose phone is whose because they're all different colors (mine is pink, hers is blue and Mom's is white). And when I pointed it out, she said, "I thought mom's phone was orange." [[{{Facepalm}} *Face palm*]] My response? "Girl, do you need your eyes checked?!" Ironically, she had an appointment with the eye doctor the next day,

but her vision is fine, so it does qualify as a "What an Idiot" moment. * ON my way to work experience today, I noticed there was nobody going down the down escalator. Therefore, like any 17-year old who deep down doesn't want to grow up, I decided to go up the down escalator. Why am I telling you this here? Because said escalator was THE STEEPEST AND LONGEST ESCALATOR I'VE EVER SEEN. Seriously, I had to go up two steps at at a time and I could barely stand afterwards. * This troper knows someone who did not respond or checked emails for several days for an assignment because their internet was down. This person also lives a 5 minute walk away from the college we all attend that has hundreds of computers. * In acting class we were playing a game called 'news conference' where one person goes out of the room, everyone else chooses who that person will be(a certain person, object, animal, ect;), then they ask questions of that person that reveal important information so said person can guess who they are. Ex: Person is a dog, question would be 'why do you like chasing your tail?' One guy was going to be Abe Lincoln. We asked questions like 'Where'd you get that top hat?' 'How do you think of such inspirational speeches?' 'Are you proud of having your own statue?' 'Was that play you were watching any good?', things like that. One person asks 'What made you choose to free the slaves?' The guy's face gets this 'realization' look on it and he says, "Oh! I'm Santa Claus!?" * This troper recalls a girl in his highschool science class asking two questions: Is Europe a country? Is England a continent? * This troper spends a lot of time at her local park, which was recently redone so it has some decent equipment, including a fantastic flying fox. Said flying fox is two metal arches with a cable between them and the seat hanging from the cable. At one end is a platform which can be reached by either walking up the ramp at the front or climbing up the sides, at the other end is a spring which pushes the rider back. (This is all relevant). Anyway, this troper has seen countless small children (and older ones who should be smart enough to know better) do incredibly stupid things such as: stand on the ramp when someone has just sat on the seat and pushed off, climb up the ramp just as someone pushes off, run after the rider and, once they bounce back, try to run along with them ''even as the rider is close enough to accidentally kick them in the head'', stand on the platform in the rider's path, so someone being pushed back up to the platform would crash right into them... even with their parents/older siblings/older relatives/friends telling them not to, so many of them just keep doing it... * This troper's chemistry teacher had us use laptops at times in class. One of these times was a group project, and some people, herself included, started playing games once they were done, although they weren't supposed to. Most people had the sense to make sure the screens were turned ''away'' from the teacher's desk. However, one pair of boys had their laptops back-to-back, meaning that while one screen was hidden, one was ''in full sight'' of the teacher. They continued this way even after she yelled at them. * [[@/{{endlessness}} This troper]] had a teacher which had a very dim

view of plagiarism, and would instantly fail anybody which did it. Why? A few years ago, another student decided it was a good idea to copy something '''straight from his lecture notes''' into an assignment. \\ '''You'd Expect ''' that most students would have learned the lesson, but no... \\ '''Instead''' some of them still try to plagiarize in his class assignments. * A lot of people I know who use facebook fit this troper. You have the internet...and you're using your real name, as well as your real identity. This is open Communications! \\ '''You'd Expect''' that they would realize that if they put up their personal thoughts on the internet, that people would know that others can see it. \\ '''Instead''': I see idiots who have twitters with their ''real names'', posting their geolocations, putting pictures of themselves drunk or stoned, announcing how they're taking a dump, and are somehow ''surprised'' that people they know can ''actually'' find this out. * An estate agency based in the city where This Troper lives came with with a brilliant idea a few years ago -- they would place the names and a digital photo of the current householders on the "For Sale" sign that would be pitched outside their house. Theoretically, this would add a personal touch to the proceedings, and make potential buyers somewhat familiar with the current owners before they'd even met them. This scheme proved a spectacular failure, for three reasons: ** Firstly, for some bizarre reason they decided to make it a mandatory part of the selling process. Potential customers that didn't fancy their faces being shown to anyone passing were told that they could go find another company to sell their house -- and for the most part, that's exactly what they did. ** Secondly, those personalised signs took far longer to print than the usual, generic ones. Whereas other estate agencies could have a "For Sale" sign outside a new customers' house within hours, the agency in question would generally take three to four days to have the sign there, which pissed off the sellers by costing them potential buyers that might be passing by. Moreover, because the signs were personalised, they couldn't be reused and had to be thrown away at the end of the process. ** Thirdly, and most catastrophically, burglars soon worked out how to use the signs to their advantage. According to one crook who was subsequently caught and arrested, they'd bring phone directories out with them, look up the homeowners' name on the sign, and call the house phone. If no-one answered, the burglar knew it'd be safe to break in there and then. Over ten houses got broken into like this before the scheme was finally stopped, and the agency nearly got sued out of existence by customers that had been burgled. They eventually survived (probably because they settled most of the cases out of court), but their reputation took a real beating and has yet to really recover from that fiasco. * Searching for Little Otik. At 3AM. Alone at home. * This Troper got to do this to ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome every single member]] [[CrowningMomentOfFunny of his MIS class]]''. Here's

the lowdown: Professor gives us a take-home midterm and schedules an entire week for us to work on it, explicitly stating "'''Do not''' come to class on those days." That week rolls around, and what happens? ''Everybody'' (excluding this Troper, whose memory is apparently far superior to that of the rest of his class) shows up, then after several minutes past the time class usually starts begins to wonder where the hell the professor is. \\ '''You'd Expect:''' At least ''someone'' to finally remember that there was no class that day, after which point everyone leaves only having wasted several minutes of time. \\ '''Instead:''' Some [[SarcasmMode genius]] gets the [[SarcasmMode brilliant]] idea to ''hunt the professor down''. They finally find him and drag him ([[CaptainObvious figuratively, of course]]) back to class. Now, I mentioned this same professor in the JerkWithAHeartOfGold entry, so you can probably guess that [[ThisIsGonnaSuck bad things are about to happen]]. And [[{{Understatement}} indeed they did.]] From what I gather, cue [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech a half-hour long rant on how stupid everyone is]]. Needless to say, this Troper feels no shame in openly laughing at everyone who tells him this riveting tale. * In the wake of the 8.9 earthquake in Japan, warnings across the Pacific have indicated that a massive tsunami is about to really attack Japan, but also hit the other side of the Pacific to a minor degree. Meaning the Pacific United States: Oregon, Washing, and in particular, California. Among other places. \\ '''You'd Expect:''' Everyone in the Pacific States to heed the warning and steer clear of any beaches or shores. \\ '''Instead:''' [[http://zwingliusredivivus.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/sad-news-thesingle-american-tsunami-victim/ One 25-year-old in Del Norte, California decides to stop and try to take pictures of the tsunami.]] [[TooDumbToLive He's the one dead American.]] * One summer, this troper was in the kitchen while his mom was boiling water for baths, as their oil ran out. This troper saw one burner on the stove that wasn't red, but the hot burner light was on, so this troper was somewhat in doubt. \\ '''You'd expect:''' This troper would have the judgment to ignore the problem and do something else. \\ '''Instead:''' [[ViolationOfCommonSense He touches the burner.]] He was then berated for that lapse of logic and suffered for the rest of the night. * This Troper was playing TeamFortress2, and due to events irrelevant to the idiocy, my team's MacGuffin was in the enemy fort. I was playing an [[TheEngineer Engineer]], who builds stuff to help the team. Through some miracle, one of my teammates managed to kill the guy holding the MacGuffin, but I was still all the way over in my fort. Not only did I make it there without the enemy recovering the MacGuffin, I started building a Sentry Gun. Almost immediately after it finished building, an enemy [[FragileSpeedster Scout]] decided he wanted the MacGuffin after all, and [[TooDumbToLive ran right into my sentry.]] I picked up his weapon, and used the metal to start upgrading it while more enemies ran into the sentry. I used the metal

from their weapons to upgrade it all the way to [[{{BFG}} Level 3]], and they were still running right into it. I was killed in the crossfire, though, and the enemy managed to destroy my sentry before I respawned and returned. But they still hadn't claimed the MacGuffin. So I set up another sentry, and an enemy [[FragileSpeedster Scout]] comes from the other direction, grabbing the MacGuffin. He could easily run and claim the MacGuffin, scoring. But instead, he runs ''exactly the wrong direction'', straight into my sentry, ''again''. Moments later, my guys capture the enemy's MacGuffin for the third time, winning the round. ** I had something like that happen. I joined a server full of nothing but spies, snipers, demomen, and one pyro. I play pyro because I don't know the other team and had joined a game in progress and...get yelled at for being a noob for playing Pyro and notice everyone's shouting Medic. I notice the team has no medic so I die and become the only medic on the team. This is what the other players do:\\ '''You'd Expect''': That they'd realize they now have a medic so they don't have to type "Medic" in morse code anymore, and that there's now someone healing him. \\ '''Instead''': Because I can only be in one place at once, I get yelled at for not healing a Demoman when ''he is on the other side of the map from me'', someone calls me a "noob" for playing a "noob" class and to pick up some skills playing an actual clas. So essentially...''you're insulting the person healing you''. Needless to say, my heals only went to ''one'' target...the soldier who didn't say a word and learned to only press the key once or twice, not hit the "Medic" key enough to type it in morse code. * I once picked up a dark red lion's mane jellyfish. My hands were burning for the rest of the day. * In a History lesson, a student who isn't the biggest prawn in the galaxy (chinese joke :3) asked "Sir, what did Joseph Lister discover, anyway?" Guess what the teacher said 3 seconds ago. * To ''all'' the players trying to mark crowd control in ''WorldOfWarcraft'': I won't waste my time and mana casting polymorph on a target unless you ''get the dots off'' and ''stop attacking it''. * This troper's former friend sent some nude photos of herself to her boyfriend. She was underage at the time.\\ '''You'd Expect''': She wouldn't check her email at school, or at least if she did, she wouldn't open the reply until she was at home.\\ '''Instead''': She opened it at school, where a teacher saw it, ending in her suspension from school, her stepmother finding out about everything she was up to, her computer access being cut off, the police beginning an investigation (it came to nothing) and all of her friends who knew, including this troper, declaring her to be a fucking idiot. * During the ''[[MagicTheGathering New Phyrexia]]'' prerelease, [[Tropers/{{Icarael}} I]] and my opponent manage to get each other's life points down into the single digits. I amass a good group of creatures including [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=227 508 Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer]] for the final blow. He has a [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=217

979 Furnace Scamp]] on the other side and several other creatures I can't quite remember. He goes all-out. After counting the rest of the creatures I have and blocking all I can afford to block, I have around two or more open blockers opposing the Scamp.\\ '''You'd Expect''': I block the Scamp with Jor Kadeen (who can kill it without taking damage).\\ '''Instead''': I block everything else he throws at me ''except'' the Scamp because I feared that if I killed it, he'd use the 3 damage that it does on death to kill me. Of course, I didn't read the bit where it says the Scamp only blows up for the 3 damage ''when it deals combat damage to a player''. It explodes in my face and I go down to -1 life. [[EpicFail I still kick myself for that mistake.]] * One time at bowling, [[Tropers/{{Cave Cat}} I]] met up with a girl who offered to buy me a lottery ticket. She then asked me how much I had for her to buy me a lottery ticket.\\ '''You'd Expect''': I just outright blow her off, telling her that I'm not giving her any of my money.\\ '''Instead''': I take out 30 dollars and give it to her as she just walks off with the money.\\ '''However''': I then realize that it wasn't right to just give her money if I didn't know her all that much. I felt both upset and angry with myself for trusting a [[{{Gold Digger}} gambling vixen]] like her. This is one of those times that being an {{Adult Child}} sucks. * One of this troper's best friends ended up having to work on an essay with one of the most idiotic people in their class. The assignment itself was fairly independent, except for the fact that you had to send your part of the assignment to a group leader to take care of formatting. Said idiot decided to slack off (as usual), and ended up not sending his part at all the night before it was due. The next day, their teacher, gave them a one day grace period to get their stuff together, but: ** He didn't contact this troper's friend until 9 pm, three hours after his ''self-imposed'' deadline - and when he did, it was to say that he was retyping his part. The reason? He had to retype it was because he had managed to corrupt the file by trying to embed a .gif animation into it. ** And if that wasn't idiotic enough for you: the assignment was supposed to be ''printed out'' to hand in. In effect, he ''actually intended to print out a .gif''. * This troper had trouble Getting Known. They tried, for the better part of ''three hours'', to come up with an original handle. They know how crafty you lot are. My two usual online names? Taken. The name of an original character in a story? Taken. Farley McDoodicus? Crispin Snifflewich? Taken! Patty O'Ffensive? Already in use. Black Dandruff? I don't know how, but taken. But the one that hurt the most was ''Alveolus Heptathlon'', which was ''chosen randomly''. Imagine the shock, as after even trying [[DudeNotFunny Squirrel Seppuku Fan]] they were still without a handle. *sigh* And then, imagine the magnitude of the facepalm when they found out they had been clicking "Create Knowage" too many times. * This troper does not proclaim to be a genius, though considers himself ''reasonably'' smart. He does, however, know a few guys (and a

few girls) in their school who have their moments. The first was once getting annoyed with his teachers and decided he was getting out of school early that day. \\ '''You'd Expect''': Him to have enough sense to reluctantly put up with the day. Or at the very least to wait until the lunch break when our year is allowed out and THEN run off. \\ '''Instead''': He tried DIGGING his way out of the school, a la TheGreatEscape. Naturally he was caught and laughed at by the teachers. Later in our year's leavers assembly he was laughed at by everyone there, though he was sadly spared the embarrassment as he was on early study leave (not for that). \\ ** A girl in the above school thought Buzz Lightyear was the first astronaut from the US on the moon. Everyone laughed when it was mentioned in the above assembly, naturally. Said girl also gets drunk repeatedly and several of our year comment her liver will stop working over the next few years. ** Another moment. When on a trip to Northern Spain, near Bilbao, a VERY stupid student and his slightly brighter friend were asked by some local Spanish boys if they wanted to play football. They mistook this for a challenge to fight. It WAS our first year learning the language admittedly, and speaking with locals can feel a bit unnerving (they speak a lot faster than an English-speaker speaking Spanish would, naturally), but it was still very stupid. ** This troper himself did have one moment. After the end of the said assembly his year all went to the park and had a good time. However, after a stormy argument with a guy who had just flipped him off, prank called him repeatedly and been a general dick for years, an alcoholic member of his year (who fits into this trope PERFECTLY) asked him whether he wanted any vodka, and produced a Pepsi bottle. \\ '''You'd Expect''': This troper to have had some sense and expect the vodka to be mixed in with the Pepsi, declining it and deciding to walk home. \\ '''Instead''': Annoyed by his recent argument, he declared it was vodka free, accepted it anyway and downed it in two big chugs. While still capable of rational thought and coherent walking, his head killed for the next couple of hours and his friend, who was going home anyway, dragged him along to prevent them giving me any more. * This troper recalls a review of the civil war in her American history class back in high school. The teacher asked one student who the sides fighting in the war were. Easy question right?\\ '''You'd Expect''': That my classmate would have answered that it was the North vs the South. \\ '''Instead''': She hesitantly replied "The...East...and the....West...?" for a war that took place during a time when the majority of the western part of the United States hadn't even been settled yet. The look on the teacher's face...priceless. *** But...but how?! I'm a non American and even I know that! * This troper couldn't quite bring herself to listen to a word a former Sunday school teacher said anymore after the woman tried to tell her and her classmates that Catholics weren't Christians. She still thinks back on that day about five years on and thinks "You stupid bitch".

* This troper was playing {{Diplomacy}} at a convention once and one of his opponents was SHOCKED, utterly shocked that I would lie and betray him. I was ''this'' close to screaming, "It's a game of Alliances, DECEPTION and Intrigue! How much clearer can it get? Do I need to call up the publisher and tell them they need to add a label saying: '''Warning: This game involves Betrayal!'''? Guy up and left in a rage over it, [[KingmakerScenario I ended up in third place after backstabbing the, at the time, first place winner]]. * This Troper's dad has broken up with this one woman six different times, the majority being because she lied to him (lying is one of his BerserkButtons). The lie that broke them up for the sixth time was very big and involved money.\\ '''You'd Expect''': For him to stay broken up with her and not trust her ever again.\\ '''Instead''': They are back together and planning to get married in October.\\ '''ItGetsWorse''': This basically leads to him and [[WiseBeyondTheirYears This Troper]] having the typical parent-toteenager relationship arguments... but [[InvertedTrope with the roles completely reversed.]] ---Kick yourself back to WhatAnIdiot. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WhatAPieceOfJunk * This troper actually ''inverted'' the WhatAPieceOfJunk ideal. Perfect-looking Crown Victoria. The engine was three years past dead, the brakes squealed like a wailing chorus of the damned, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the radio didn't work.]] No one save myself got into the car willingly due to a combo of this and my own severe case of DrivesLikeCrazy. * My Computer's ATI HD 5800 graphics driver following the last update. Why would I want underscan on as a default setting? Why the hell does it not stay with 0% underscan when it boots up when I changed it? [[BerserkButton It stops the graphics in the force unleashed working!?!? I only just bought it!!!]] ** Somebody needs to do some googling about the Linux graphics stack. Also, it defaults that way because most HDTVs need it. ** Linux? * [[@/DeltaOne This Troper]] was once part of Operation: Mustang Sally. We took an old, battered, rally-modified Subaru Impreza (stripped interior, roll cage, superbrakes and suspension and so on), removed its poor, battered engine and replaced it with a Chevy 350 engine. (The crate the engine came in was marked with the Mustang logo, hence the name). We more than doubled the engine capacity, and our main problem was stopping the AWD from exploding. So... fast... * [[{{Tropers/RAMChYLD}} This troper]]'s grandpa had an Austin 850(aka Mr. Bean's car). It was retrofitted with a 1000cc engine for racing purposes. However grandpa got rid of it after it got too expensive to

maintain. On his end, he still owns a Macintosh Beige G3 and a IBM PC300GL. Pieces of junk? Nope, both of them are great for retrogaming: why use DosBox or Basilisk II when you can have the game in it's native environment?!?. And to be truthful, both of them are rather heavily upgraded, but with parts that are barely old enough that the peripherals all work in MS-DOS and Mac OS 9 respectively. Plus, the 300GL has a Laguna3D video chipset (supports OpenGL, meaning most GLIDE games will work with it if a wrapper is present, and with the P2-266 backing it, will play most Glide-accelerated DOS games smoothly) and most importantly, he was able to fit his treasured SoundBlaster AWE64 into it for awesome sound (my first Wavetable sound card! paid RM470 for it!). ** Where I work, we still have a bunch of IBM PC-300GLs, but used as file servers and router/firewall. * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]]'s former daily driver (An '89 Dodge Omni) fit this trope perfectly. Even after I cleaned it up, it still didn't look that great; the silver paint dull and faded, some light rust on the trunk and hood, the windshield was cracked on the passenger side, and it had duct tape covering where the handle to one of the rear passenger doors used to be before it broke. While it did have other problems (Mainly bizarre electrical problems; especially in the dash), it's engine was still strong; it would always start right up first try, ran smoothly, got great gas mileage, and had no problem hitting warp speed when needed. Sadly, it suffered CriticalExistenceFailure after it's brakes died; ending its legacy. * This troper's father used to have an old Toyota Tercel, that ran very well despite its age. Eventually, though, time got the better of it and it became TheAllegedCar. * [[ScionofGrace This troper's]] brother is a DIY mechanic who buys old cars and soups them up for autocross racing. The best one so far was a rusted-out '84 Mustang: he upgraded the drive train and tires, tuned the engine, and, most importantly, installed a turbocharger. 'Cause the thing about turbochargers is that they a) can double the engine's horsepower, and b) take a second to kick in. When out on the road, he'd pull up next to shiny new sports cars at stoplights and rev his engine at them. The other driver would see a beat-up old junker with what sounded like a sad little four-cylinder engine and, smiling smugly, would accept the challenge. Then the light would turn green, the turbocharger would kick in, the Mustang's engine would give a mighty roar, and the other car would be left in the dust. (Copied from TheAllegedCar)

WhatAreRecords * Records, eh? Nobody younger than 14 in this troper's school knows what MySpace is/was. ** They sound lucky. * This troper, a librarian, frequently had to show university students how to use microfilm to read old newspapers. A particular student took one look at the microfilm reel and asked, "don't you have this on DVD?" To which this troper responded, "in the 1950s, this ''was'' DVD -- a whole week of newspapers, right in the palm of my hand!" The

student wasn't impressed. ** Well, considering you can now have a whole year's worth on a USB thumbdrive... ** To be fair, why the hell haven't they converted them? *** Why bother? That would cost time and money (quite a bit of time, actually, given that they'd have to scan decades worth of microfilm and microfiche), and presumably they have other things to do (including teaching students how to use the microfilm reader, granted) * This troper was quite amused when reading ''GoodOmens'' (I think it was written in 1990) at Crowley, the stylish, technology-obsessed NobleDemon, owning such things as high-tech cassette players. * This troper, doing his A-Levels in 1999 (at age 17), was walking with friends when he heard two students walking the other way and one was talking about records. The other said "What's a record?" in complete seriousness, and this troper and his friends stopped dead, suddenly feeling very *oooold*. The student in question was only *two* years younger than himself. ** Hey, maybe that guy was just thick. I was 10 in '99, and I knew what records were. *** Yeah, he's a goddamn idiot. I know what they are and I was 3 that year. * This 16-year-old troper recently mentioned [=VCRs=] in front of her 9-year-old brother, to which he responded--wait for it -- "What's a VCR?" She and her stepmom were both pretty stunned. (This was in early 2010, FYI.) ** This isn't limited to music and video technology either as this troper found himself having to explain what a {{Nintendo 64}} was to his 8-year old cousin. * This 20-year-old troper has known what records were since she was a young child and works at a children museum. We currently have a visiting exhibit about recycling, and one part of the exhibit is a pretend thrift store, which contains a record player and a few records. If the record player is turned off, a child will put a record on it, drop the needle on some random point on the record's surface and continuously turn the player on and off and screw with the speed so that you can't listen to a song properly. If I turn the record player on correctly, children will either stare at it in awe and confusion while I (or a parent) explain it or immediately turn it off and screw with it as described above. I should probably find this cute, but it's just kind of obnoxious. * This 20-year-old troper has had to explain to his friends what floppy disks, [=VCRs=] and dial-up Internet were. * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]] experienced this when talking with his older cousin about what our first video games where. After he mentioned playing DuckHunt as a kid, I mentioned my first experience playing PacMan on my dad's old {{Atari 2600}}...to which he asked "What the hell is an Atari?". * This 24-year-old troper grew up with a record player, but for a long time thought the material records were made of was pronounced ''VIHnul''. Her parents also thought her weird for playing individual tracks (as one might with a CD) rather than playing whole albums at a time.

* [[Tropers/SukiSelfDestruct This 14-year-old troper]] got a record player and two vinyl for Christmas (2010). It's glorious. Currently, it sits upon my dresser, next to my CD player and iPod dock. I'm working on both a CD and a vinyl collection. This trope doesn't exist for me. ** Then played entirely straight in class when I was talking about how ''awesome'' vinyl is. * This troper remembers back to his freshman biology course in high school, about four years ago. A classmate had just noticed the supplemental disc for our textbooks and commented, "That is a big CD." It was a Laserdisc. * Once, for fun, This Troper pretended to not know what a postage stamp is. * An [[InvertedTrope inversion]]: once, I was staying with my parents and went out to a friend's place. We played some games and listened to some records. The next morning: --> So, what did you do last night? --> Oh, we played some games and listened to records. --> Oh, you listened to [=CDs=]? --> No, we listened to records. Vinyl, grooved, usually black, little hole in the middle? You do remember records, right? * This troper got tired of the confusing way that "record" was used to refer to both the obsolete recording media and album releases, and so refers to the black vinyl discs as "phonographs." Fortunately, "album" seems to be the standard term nowadays. * While at a family reunion last July, I had to explain to my younger cousins what the "bulky black thing under the TV in the living room" (re: the VCR) was. The reason it came up was that we couldn't get the DirecTV or the DVD player to work, despite most of the people there being tech savvy. HumanTorch2 * [[Tropers/RickOShea2 This troper]] has a cousin whodespite not being blondeis just a fountain of stuff like this, with other family members providing additional examples. ** [[TheDitz Cousin]]: "Mom, how do I make the windows go down? There aren't any buttons." Yes she was in a car, and didn't know how to use the crank windows ** This troper's father had been looking through some old junk in Grandma's attic and found an old (1950's era) camera. The cousin couldn't understand how a camera could work without batteries (though she did know what film was, so that's something). ** On a different trip through the attic, Dad found an old punch card. Now, it isn't surprising that the cousin didn't know what a punch card was when shown, but she ''could not'' accept the assertions of her two uncles that they couldn't just use a mouse. ** The basement of This troper's family's home had a rotary phone. Cue the cousin stating that she didn't know how to make it work. ** Another conversation (still the same cousin). --> Cousin: "I'm taking a trip to Ireland this summer! --> Troper: "Cool!" --> Cousin: "Yeah, I'm going to drive all over." --> Troper: "Can you drive a standard?" --> Cousin: "What?"

--> Troper: "A standard. The rental companies in Ireland charge you triple for the automatics, since they only keep them for Americans." --> Cousin: "But..automatics ''are'' standard." ** This troper used to have an old 2-inch-thick Win95 Thinkpad. It still worked. you could even get on the internet with it (Netscape Communicator for the win!). Cue exclamations of numerous cousins (different branch of the family). --> 13-year old cousin: Wow, it's like a miniature computer! --> Troper: That's kind of the idea, Liam --> 13-YO: No, I mean like a ''desktop''. ** A non-family example. Once in college this troper was working in a computer lab, trying to finish up some homework when the following exchange happened: --> Other student: "Do you know what time it is?" --> Troper: "There's the clock" --> Girl: "I can't read that." --> Troper: "What?" --> Girl: "I can't read that." That's right. The clock was ''analog''. And she couldn't read it. ** This troper's uncle is a high school science teacher and is fond of [[InvokedTrope invoking]] this trope. When students in his class ask to borrow a calculator, he loans them his slide rule. * This troper's mother always ''expects'' this trope to come into play, and feels the need to explain what a record is to her every time the subject comes up. "You're like a broken record. Wait, you're too young to know what a record is, aren't you?" * As much as it pains me to admit it, I had a mild form of this when I first bought a record player in my late teens (I'm 24 now, by the way). I knew what records were, but had to ask my parents to show me how to do things like choose specific tracks on the albums, and how to play singles without making it sound like the entire band was stuck in slow motion. * This troper's stepmother owns a record player, [[SubvertedTrope so I naturally know what a record is.]] [[DoubleSubvertedTrope What I don't know is how to actually use the player]] [[JustifiedTrope (I've not been taught how to use it, as my stepmother doesn't want to risk me damaging records).]] I also had an inversion of this trope with clocks: when I was first shown a digital clock, I couldn't read it, because I'd grown up with analog clocks. * This troper was at a garage sale where someone was selling a manual typewriter. There were several children playing with it, marveling at the "combination keyboard and printer." ----

WhatBeautifulEyes * This she-troper couldn't subvert it harder if she tried, apparently. Her eyes are kind of a weird rust-y-red-brown color, and while she thinks it's kind of cool/pretty as she's never seen any other eyes like hers, the vast, vast majority of people find it incredibly unnerving. * This male troper's very bright blue/silver eyes elicit a...LOT of

outbursts from random girls I walk by. I've had them run up to me just to say, "Oh my GOD, your eyes are ''sooooo'' pretty!" I kinda just shy away and say thanks, embarrassed. I honestly don't see what's so amazing. I guess they are my best feature but I still have no idea what's so great about them. * This female troper gets this a lot, even though she rarely makes eye contact with other people. Friends of hers have stopped mid-sentence just to say so, and even some strangers have commented on them. Needless to say, it's more than a bit [[{{ShrinkingViolet}} embarrassing]]. For the record, her eyes are [[{{GreyEyes}} grey]] with a dark green ring around the iris, but often change to blue-grey or green-grey depending on other factors. * This troper's best friend has eyes that makes him stare at them and forget what he was saying or thinking. They're a pair of piercing and sexy GreenEyes with a [[{{EyesofGold}} gold ring]] around the pupil. They make her look prettier, and honestly, she's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. [[{{BlatantLies}} No, I don't have a crush on her]]. [[{{BadLiar}} I just aprecciate her beauty]]. [[{{HairofGold}} And her golden hair...]] And her [[{{WhenSheSmiles}} beautiful smile...]] And the [[{{ManicPixieDreamGirl}} way she came out of nowhere and just turned my life upside down...]] [[{{ComicallyMissingThePoint}} What was I talking about again?]] * This troper has eyes that girls swear are "OMGCUTE!" or "Kawaii!". I have eyes with a light brown in the center that turn to a hazy black rim. Oh yeah, it's good to know that ladies cant resist. * This Tropette has brown-gold eyes, or as one person once told me, "brown with gold flecks in them". I get a lot of compliments about them. A lot. It helps that I'm generally a very happy person who [[WhenSheSmiles smiles]] and laughs a lot, too, I guess. * [[@/MmmKay This troper]]'s eyes are [[SoOkayItsAverage so-so]] in the luminance department, but she enjoys the brilliance of many different eyes. BlueEyes in particular are her favorite, so beautiful and dazzling and colorful and dazzling and attention-grabbing [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment and dazzling]] and... [[[{{Thunderbirds}} Scott Tracy]]... Mmm...-] I'm sorry, where were we? Oh yeah, [[BlueEyes Blue]] [[{{Thunderbirds}} Brainy]] [[BlueEyes eyes]]. [[GushingAboutCharactersYouLike DARNIT!]] Well, they match his BrainySpecs so well and... I've been hanging around puppets too long... * [[@/TheTallOne I]] think my eyes are nothing to write home about, but there was a completely straight girl at my school who couldn't talk to me while looking at me, claiming my "sparkly tree" eyes were distracting her. * This troper has dark blue eyes, which he often gets compliments on ("beautiful blue eyes", "they're so deep", etc). As the rest of my family is brown-eyed, my parents were also quite shocked when their baby stared up them with blue eyes.T * This troper has received compliments on her BROWN eyes in the past. When a friend of hers was asked what this troper's best trait is, online, she responded, "her eyes". * This troper has eyes that change color depending on lighting, but they're usually grey. My family members (and nonfamily members) are

convinced that they're my best feature (likely true) and it's become staple for my best friend to comment on my eye color when she's got nothing to say. * This troper has been spontaneously asked on several occasions by strangers whether he wears special contacts to get the shade of light blue he has. The colour doesn't seem very special in the mirror. * My siblings and I often get complements about our eyes. I think it has less to do with the color ('''dark''' brown, nearly [[{{BlackEyes}} black]]) and more with the fact we have very long eyelashes and very ''big'' eyes. ** This unrelated troper also has dark brown eyes and long eyelashes and wishes he got complimented on them. * Somewhat of a RunningGag amongst my friends is for one person ([[HoYay usually male]]) to say to another: "You have ''beautiful'' eyes." * This troper's girlfriend considers [[BlueEyes his eyes]] to be his best feature. He's also been called [[FanNickname "Pretty Eyes"]] by a group of girls from his old high school. * [[@/{{Aver}} I]]'ve been complimented on my green eyes often by several people, so I suppose it's one of my better qualities. * [[Tropers/{{Orihime}} I]] have been told very often that my very light HazelEyes are [[EyesOfGold golden]] in other people's view. * This troper's very light blue (''very'' recessive) eyes often get this. It's...kind of awkward at times, especially when her science partner randomly mentioned it in a study session. * [[Contributors/{{Muse}} This troper]], when she wears her contact lenses and eyeliner (which is rare) is complimented about her eyes, and is often asked if the contacts are colored ([[http://ladycorvidae.deviantart.com/#/d380r86 her eyes are an odd hazel/green/gold color]]). Last year, when she was talking to her then-roommate's visiting aunt, the light from the window hit the troper's eyes and the aunt looked her full in the face and said "OH MY GOD YOUR EYES ARE GORGEOUS!!!" * This troper has odd blue and green eyes, which he's been complimented on ("They're really blue") in the right light,However they pale in comparison to those owned by the subject of his {{Yandere}} tendencies, if only I could manage to look her in the eyes more often (mind out the gutter, people, I have confidence issues.). * [[@/{{VioletAura1009}} I]] have been told my eyes were very beautiful and 'like a storm'. My eyes are actually a sort of silverblue color, and one is more green than the other. When I worked as a cashier, it was the one thing I always heard (other than 'Where is the bathroom?') * This troper has apparently very odd hazel eyes which his friends regard as "cool", "weird", "like a cat's" or, alternatively, "Literature/{{Twilight}} eyes!". His on/off girlfriend subscribes heavily to the latter theory while calling them very pretty and the like. This troper disagrees - they're just fucking weird and so's everyone else for liking them. And any further comparisons to Edward Cullen will result in [[{{Warhammer40000}} Exterminatus]]. * This Troper has blue eyes with yellow flecks in them near the center. Most of the time they look green by a combination of lighting

and glasses (don't know why, but my glasses usually seem to exacerbate it). However, one day when he was wearing contacts (mostly just to get some use out of the things) a girl he didn't even know complimented his eyes saying that she could fall in love with someone with my eyes. Combined with ComplimentBackfire, as she absent mindedly mentioned that "someone" was anyone but me. * My friend has very big brown eyes, therye pretty * This troper has gotten compliments from my classmates and her mom's patients on her eye color. Actually, the color can change, depending on lighting. Far away, they look brown, but if you get closer, they are two different colors (the right is golden-brown and the left is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_green#Army_green army green]]). In the bathroom, they both look army green. If you take a picture with the flash on, (and glasses off), they show up ''very'' golden. Almost Twilight-esque. * [[@/TenderLumpling This troper]] has heard several variants of "Look at those eyes!" throughout my life, thanks to my unusually dark blue eyes. * This lurker was told that as a newborn in the hospital (I had to stay a few weeks because of preemie complications), the nurses loved my pale blue eyes. People still love her eyes and I was even told that they looked "silver" at one point. This, despite the fact that they go all creepily colorless in direct light... * In grade 8, this troper knew a girl with absolutely amazing eyes. In the sunlight, they were a flat, [[EyesOfGold golden colour.]] This troper would have told her so, except for a few reasons: This troper is a girl, the other girl a generally unpleasant person, and this troper never got the chance. ** This troper has also been told that, as a baby, she had nearly dark blue eyes with white streaks from the pupil to the edges. Her eyes were never open long enough for her parents to get a picture, and, unfortunately, this troper's eyes are now a boring brown that nobody has ever commented on. *** Same with this troper, who apparently had light grey eyes when she was born. My eyes are now a brown not unlike the color of a tree trunk. Yes, I have tree eyes. * [[Tropers/{{Seiryu}} This troper]] gets this ''a lot.'' Mainly used to get it from my grandma (may she rest in peace) who would coo as she pinched my cheeks. She had Alzheimer's, however, so she'd be doing it every five minutes. ** My best friend's high school girlfriend did this behind my back. Reportedly, she met me, we had a quick conversation, I left for my next class, she turned to my friend, and went "Holy CRAP he has pretty eyes!" ** Now that I remember, in high school, we were doing an in-class survey. One girl across the room [[NoIndoorVoice screamed]] "Hey! What color are your eyes?" At the time, I had glasses. I simply looked over the rims, Dumbledore-style, and she went "Thanks!" From across the room. * Couple years ago in this [[GreenEyes green-eyed]] Troper's high school creative writing class, a guy I sat next to asked for a pencil. After lending him one, he stared at me for about three seconds and

said, "You have really pretty eyes." * This troper's eyes are so ugly that kittens nearby are known to commit suicide. He's very jealous of the people on this page. * This troper, apparantly. I have very large, very dark brown eyes, often mistaken for black, and really long lashes of the naturallylook-mascara'd type. They are generally described as 'beautiful', 'pretty', 'piercing', or 'mysterious'. To me, they're just SoOkayItsAverage, but each to their own. * This troper's been told she has beautiful eyes, but since she always wears [[RanmaOneHalf Mousse]]-style glasses due to really bad eyesight, it only gets commented on when she takes them off (such as when trying to point out that her eyes aren't ''that'' small to other people). ** ...Are you me? I have small light brown eyes that sometimes (depending on where you look) have green bits around the edges, and due to having terrible eyesight I wear really thick glasses. Some people still say I have nice eyes, though. (IMO, these people are on crack.) * I get this all the time...My eyes are hazel, and the green in them even sometimes [[KaleidoscopeEyes changes in intensity]] * This troper has been told about five-million times that her eyes (blue rimmed by gray) were really pretty and that she should get contacts. (she eventually gave in) One of her friends admitted that she wanted to steal them because they were so pretty. ** Same troper was later texting her crush/now-boyfriend when he said, out of the [[IncrediblyLamePun blue]] "Did anyone ever tell you that you have beautiful blue eyes?" * This troper, who once criticized her rather boring eyes, was told by her friend (who has these utterly gorgeous bright blue-silver eyes) that her eyes are pretty because they're brownish-red with little lines in them (think like when people draw a sun, and they have little sticks going off, he said). This troper has since, thanks to this blue-eyed friend, developed a liking for peoples' eyes, though not blue eyes in particular. Being the brown-eyed friend in her group, despite what her friend said, is deeply jealous of her best friend's hazel eyes and the other's blue-gray-green KaleidoscopeEyes. (I have never once criticized my eyes since Cameron told me my eyes are pretty). ** I have the same "brownish-red-sun" thing going on with my eyes, which is why I think they're awesome. However, when it comes to guys, blue-green eyes are practically a hypnosis spell on me. So blue, so pretty...can't...stop...STARING! *-* * [[http://blackrosebandkitsune.deviantart.com/favourites/#/d1q63tp this guy]] has unbelievably beautiful blue eyes. ([[DudeLooksLikeALady Yes, that's a guy]]) ** Ouch, [[DroppedABridgetOnHim Right in the heterosexuality.]] * I went to the eye doctor and when they were doing some sort of close up look, the lady looking suddenly went "You have amazing eyes! I wish you could see it..." And then I had her looking in my eyes indirectly through the eye thing for what I was sure was longer than normal. And I know this guy with fantastic eyes. I started an arrgument with him just so I could look at them lol. Too bad he's such a jerk.

* This tropette is constantly told by any guy/girl that she has beautiful big blue eyes and are mesmerising to the point of staring. [[http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-aksnc4/hs109.snc4/35805_406847276738_542786738_5017396_5240861_n.jpg Best]] [[http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-aksnc3/hs217.snc3/22478_321830926738_542786738_4105224_1915034_n.jpg photo]] [[http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-aksnc4/hs258.snc4/40262_416296006738_542786738_5278210_4005204_n.jpg evidence]] I hope. ** This troper sees nothing special about your eyes. ** From those photos, I can't even tell that they're blue. * This troper had a major crush on a girl mainly because of her eyes, which are mainly hazel with fractures of amber and green. Major awkwardness on her part from trying not to stare too much like a creep and wanting to keep looking into her crush's eyes. * One of my online friends posted a picture of himself online for the first time. The first thing I noticed about him where his beautiful big blue eyes. * This troper's favourite features are her eyes. However, it's not so much that she thinks they're attractive, it's that they're almost exactly like her mother's: amber brown with a ring of dark gray around the edge. Of course, her mother's eyes are lovely, so perhaps it comes down to the same thing. * My eyes aren't all that special (brown, plain, simple brown), but the guy I seriously am in love with has the most beautiful blue (skyblue, methinks) I've ever seen in my life. He doesn't quite [[AllLoveIsUnrequited return my feelings for him]], at least not yet, hmhmhm. * This troper thinks the people in this page are very conceited and need to get a life. [[PurpleProse These lengthy descriptions of their eyes]] is seriously giving me a headache. * To address the concerns of the above. My eyes are nothing special; it is the eyes of my many crushes that are stunning. The eyes are what I find most attractive in women. Particularly this one girl I met after PT. Eager to make a friend, I introduced myself from behind, when she turned to look at me I was staring into two big, bright orbs the color of a bluebird's wings. * This troper has very regular blue eyes of a not particularly interesting or striking shade, with greyish-green rims around the pupil that are completely impossible to notice anywhere outside of an eye exam. This troper just thought she'd mention that to freshen things up. * While this troper has not been directly told that her eyes are pretty, people have recently begun to notice that my eyes sometimes turn orange, the same color as my (strawberry blonde) hair. This leads to moments where people standing close to me randomly exclaim something along the lines of "Oh my gosh, your eyes match your hair!" * This troper has bright green-blue eyes. You know what's creepy? When a girl you literally haven't even spoken a single word to, at a Catholic retreat, suddenly stops you to tell you that you have gorgeous eyes. ...Yes. * Internet let this troper paint you a mental picture. Imagine you met

a girl in high school you found adorable and really liked you. You never saw her again after graduating. Her eyes weren't particularly special but one of the few pictures you had was a surprisingly high quality image of her left eye with thick eyeshadow and her hair covering half of her eye. You can make out her eyelashes beneath the makeup, the subtle changes in the color in her iris, a few of the freckles on her face, and the tiniest hint of red in her brown hair. This troper has that picture. * [[Tropers/MahoghanyAntarctican This Troper]] has a male friend who has these green eyes. They're like, olive-y whatever with some yellow in them. She can't really look into his eyes when they talk since they're so pretty! When she does she can't look away, and his pupils are usually big/dilated so they look really striking. He's said that he hasn't gotten any compliments on them until this year. We and our friends are nerds, and I think he really is good-looking. His eyes are a GIFT and are RARE, UNAPPRECIATED GEMS. I get all "HNNGH" with my brown eyes when I'm with him, though. u___u * This troper considered writing a troper tale about his lovely greenblue eyes, which have drawn compliments from total strangers, but he realized how self-indulgent and egotistical it would be. He is glad that he also didn't mention the fact that his eyes are complimented by long, full lashes and finely arched eyebrows. What a gaffe that would have been. * According to her grandma, this tropette inherited very blue eyes from her grandfather, although this may simply be because she's quite pale and doesn't get as much sleep as she should. * There's a girl in my English class with the most ''gorgeous'' eyes I've ever seen. They're tricolored; the outside ring is bright green, the middle ring is gold, and the ones around her pupils are completely blood-red. No, they're not freaky contacts. * This she-Troper has dark eyes, brown and deep, yet there are hints of hazel and black. Add to that solid eyebrows and long lashes, and one gets "bovine eyes." * RobLowe is known for his startling blue eyes. It was even lampshaded in an Orange advert. * CillianMurphy is another stunningly blue-eyed man. * DanielCraig has gorgeous light blue eyes, which are used to great effect for the tense close-ups in the [[JamesBond Bond films]]. ** Or in Defiance where they look like they'll shoot lasers and blow up a tank. * Rufus Sewell's green eyes are lovely, showcased in ''EleventhHour,'' which tended to be shot in a blue tint, making his eyes stand out even more in contrast. * ZooeyDeschanel has a beautiful pair of round, petite, [[BlueEyes blue]] eyes. ** As does her sister, Emily Deschanel. * HughLaurie. Ask ''anyone''. * EmilieAutumn has quite stunning GreenEyes. * MishaCollins has lovely blue eyes which, combined with his dark hair and pale skin, definitely help him to look like an [[{{supernatural}} ethereal angel.]] * Neal [=McDonough=] has startlingly piercing blue eyes.

* According to certain breeds of {{Fangirl}}, Joey Kramer of {{Aerosmith}} has the most gorgeous, emotive eyes. As opposed to most fangirl logic, this one holds true[[http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wennpic/wenn5157298.jpg his eyes are actually quite expressive]]. It doesn't help that they're a very vibrant, striking [[BlueEyes blue]], of the 'innocent' type according to the fangirls. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Not that I am one,]] [[BlatantLies of course...]] * ChristopherEccleston has big, blue, very emotive and occasionally piercing eyes. But what makes him special is his incredible mastery of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap88Nvq44uQ&p=0F2207C3B0644238 subtle eye-acting.]] He also doesn't seem to need to blink often. (Try to keep eye contact through the whole thing, I dare you.) * [[http://evagreenweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11668&fullsize=1 Eva]] [[http://evagreenweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=10514&fullsize=1 freaking]] [[http://evagreenweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11584&fullsize=1 Green]]. * DanielRadcliffe. * [[EvenTheGuysWantHim Bradley]] [[StupidSexyFlanders Cooper]] has some intense blue eyes. * Henry Fonda had very striking blue eyes, though it isn't quite as well known as some others as so many of his films were in black and white. But just try to look away from them during ''{{Once Upon A Time In The West}}''. * [[http://content6.flixster.com/photo/10/48/90/10489020_tml.jpg Rei]] [[http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1p5R5RP83uXY9tLmOb6YW4I0rsr0kLojipT H-Mz9XEBWC_phEbiYAebCqg6nzXtbTGkaBzWp_ogO0 Kikukawa]] * [[http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/liam-neeson/liam-neeson20060930-165022.jpg Liam Neeson]], in my opinion, has some pretty dang gorgeous eyes. * [[http://www.fullissue.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Rena-Sofer.jpg Rena Sofer]] has some beautiful blue eyes. * JimParsons, [[http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/xD42ALp7Rlp/HFPA+Annual+Installation+ Luncheon/3Fp56wXzdgH/Jim+Parsons he of the huge, cornflower-blue orbs.]] * ChrisPine has [[http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2009/10/14/chris-pine.jpg some pretty blue peepers]]. ** And let's not forget that the man that originally played Kirk, William Shatner, had an interesting pair of bright hazel eyes. They often looked like they were a bright, pretty gold/amber on the show at times; Deforest Kelley also had nice laser-like blue eyes like Pine as well. *** It's interesting to note that with the original Bones and Kirk, their eye colors were blue and hazel in that order, but with the Reboot, it's Karl Urban with the hazel eyes and Pine with the blue. * MaggieGyllenhaal has bright, piercing blue eyes that look kind of like a wolf's eyes, like maybe they shine in the dark. * [[StupidSexyFlanders She's not the only Gyllenhaal...]]

* Mark Valley * Pal Waaktar-Savoy from {{a-ha}} is the owner of a pair of gorgeous GreenEyes. * [[http://images.zap2it.com/images/celeb-220961/simon-helberg-2.jpg Simon Helberg]] has ''very'' vivid GreenEyes. * Robin Williams baby blues definately deserve a mention * Jon Bon Jovi's blue eyes coupled with his intense stare can be....[[EvenTheGuysWantHim quite appealing]] * [[http://www.fwallpapers.net/es/pics_del_cuadro-Megan-Fox-BlueEyes.html Megan]] [[http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_T6KUQMKYPug/TCdy9RcF1nI/AAAAAAAABXY/dO9MAz zbLPk/s1600/megan-fox-eye.jpg Fox's]] [[http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/events/ALO-026857.jpg eyes]]. This [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer female troper]] can't decide if they are green, gray, blue or [[KaleidoscopeEyes all of the above]]. * [[http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_9C0hBPE884/R6pvgy_YutI/AAAAAAAACOA/6hVuPCnZPxM/s400/Delta_Burke_Suzanne_Suga rbaker.jpg Delta Burke has really nice eyes too]]. [[http://deltaburkefanatic.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpi ctures/delta2page.jpg]] [[http://www.jimmroberts.com/ep/ep_images/ep_delta_1.jpg]] They're really blue and have such an interesting catlike shape to them that according to Delta's biography, her mother named her after her own cat. * [[http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/-3Amy-Lee-3-amy-lee510421_350_525.jpg Amy Lee]] is well-known for having quite a [[http://www.getonmyspace.com/Images/Female_Celebrities/Amy_Lee/images /Sexy_Amy_Lee_0028.jpg striking]] [[http://www.taramtamtam.com/wallpapers/Unsorted/A/Amy_Lee/images/Amy_ Lee_2.jpg pair of eyes]] herself. * Fairuza Balk is [[http://www.celebs-wallpaper.com/wpcontent/uploads/2006/05/Fairuza%20Balk.jpg known to have some brilliant eyes.]] She was even named after their color, with Fairuza being the Turkish equivalent of the Arabic version "Fairouz" of the Persian name "Firoozeh", meaning "Turquoise, Victory, or Precious One". * [[http://www.blogcdn.com/www.theboot.com/media/2008/05/martinablue200.jpg Martina]] [[http://image.lyricspond.com/image/m/artistmartina-mcbride/album-way-that-i-am/cd-cover.jpg McBride]] has some [[http://www.lyricsfreak.com/i/b_picture/10002217.jpg strikingly]] [[http://www.tradebit.com/usr/backingtracks4u/pub/9002/martinamcbridePic.jpg blue]] [[http://www.empyrelounge.com/images/grammy/martina.jpg eyes]]. * [[TheGuild Michele Boyd]] [[http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3479/3456645433_36c7c4b4b4_z.jpg?zz=1 appears]] [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/micheleboyd/3456629161/ to]] [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/micheleboyd/3488372112/ have]] what are called "sunflower eyes", with a ring of light green around the iris surrounded by darker green/blue. * DavidTennant has some of the most [[http://downunderdivas.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/david-tennant.jpg amazing]]

[[http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcfhy0kzLA1qacqyoo1_500.jpg dark]] [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__u6rwKMwZSE/TB_q1XYv_rI/AAAAAAAAACQ/PKMY33 w2e6s/s1600/David-tennant.preview.jpg eyes]] * RachelWeisz has these exotic looking eyes(probably her [[MatzoFever Jewish blood]]), and a stare with them that can magically cause boxer shorts([[EvenTheGirlsWantHer or panties]]) to disappear. * RikiLindhome. Combined with her CatSmile, she looks like a [[AliceInWonderland Cheshire Cat]] in human form, flashing a smile and its eyes so we at home know who it really is. * [[{{Kaizykat}} This troper]] occasionally receives these kinds of comments. She has grey eyes that seem either blue or green depending on the light. She doesn't get it often because she squints a lot. * EmilyBlunt * LauraHarris has piercing blue eyes. * AngelaBettis * I have a very beautiful female friend. She has dark, amber locks of hair, and is shaped perfectly, I tell you. But her eyes. Her eyes are seriously dazzling emerald, grassy circles of beauty. I don't have a crush on her, but if I was male... * I have the rarely seen golden-yellow eyes, and I usually keep them squinted, which results in dazzling sun-yellow eyes. It's a good thing to know men can't resist. [Also it's not liver failure!] * This troper is an inversion of this trope. My eyes are probably my worst features since they alone ruin my whole face. I could be mistaken as an average, maybe pretty girl with sunglasses on. It is not so much for the color of the eyes but it is actually the structure. Even for an Asian, I have too much fat on the eyelids, resulting droopy eyes that renders my expression permanently tired. In addition, too angled and bushy eyebrows worsen the effect since my default expression could be mistakenly interpreted as anger. Last but not least, my eyes are small in comparisons to my other features so they are relatively not proportional even if I am Asian. * This troper, though she has brown eyes, has gotten tons of of comments about how "beautiful" her eyes are, from other classmates, teachers, therapists, and random strangers. Her mother even went so far as to claim "you have a special shade of brown." * [[{{Tropers/Ventisia}} This Troper]] has hazel eyes that are apparently really "expressive" and "beautiful." Also, I've been told that they change colors under different lighting. * [[{{Tropers/YvannaIrie}} This troper]] is positively surrounded with people like this. Apparently the Finnish gene pool offers a lot of chances for people to have very striking and beautiful colour combinations. One of my friends takes the cake by having pale green eyes with a very dark, rust-coloured ring around her pupils. * This troper has slightly large (although i don't think anyone would call them gigantic or anything, just slightly bigger than average) sky colored eyes that i get a lot of compliments on. But only from other girls of course. Although I'm kind of under the impression that guys do not believe in giving platonic compliments so I don't really care, it's nice to be told that you have something nice about you even if it's not from someone you're attracted to. * AudreyTautou has brown, doll-like eyes, that especially light up

{{when she smiles}}. * JaymaMays has big, {{hazel eyes}} that make her look a little like an anime character. * [[{{Tropers/Robbychu}} This troper]] has been told that she has very pretty [[{{Boatlights}} "grey" (actually grey green/grey blue)]] eyes. ''She'' thinks that while they look nice, she has a rather... [[SlasherSmile unnerving]]... smile that ruins any sense of pretty they have. * NoomiRapace has beautiful almond {{brown eyes}}, which you wouldn't really expect from a [[NorseByNorsewest Swede]]. * In this troper's family, the giant eyelashes they all seem to have get more compliments than the rest of their features combined. * This troper has hazel "cat" eyes with a circle of dark gray/blue around them. (I think I was told once what that was called, but it was a while ago and I forgot. It's not like the iris has two different colors present, that's a completely different condition, (a very very pretty condition, but I've never met anyone in real life who has it) it's more like the iris has a thick outline around it.) I have a tendency not to look directly at people (eye contact scares me) but when I do, I get jaw drops. This does not encourage me to look at people more, since it tends to be kind of embarrassing and somewhat creepy. * My friend Dan has really pretty smokey blue eyes that I didn't notice until I was fairly close to his face at one point. My other friend Dan also has really pretty silvery-shiny green eyes, which are similar to those of a female friend's of mine. I think all eyes are pretty, though. They're all so shiny! * I find that most peoples eyes look lovely in the right lighting/clothes/make-up * Once, at a restaurant, I met a women with lovely gray eyes. Before I could stop myself, I exclaimed, "Your eyes are so pretty!" * This troper knows a lady with eyes so dark, they're almost black. Plus, when she's excited, those things are the size of dinner plates. Like staring into the abyss, really. * This troper's family is South Asian, and quite dark-skinned. Most of them have the typical brown to black eyes, but troper's father's eyes are legit ''orange''. They're pretty yet also kind of scary to look at, especially in the sunlight when they're lighter than his skin (the effect is almost like [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Sharbat_Gula_on_Nation al_Geographic_cover.jpg this]]). This troper did not inherit them, unfortunately. * This troper has gotten several "oh my god"'s about her eyes. From a distance they look brown, but when people actually look, they figure out they're dark green with grey rings and rust colored streaks. It's actually kind of awkward when someone stops in the middle of a sentence to say so, though. * This tropette has gotten several compliments about her blue eyes. Someone once asked me if I was wearing colored contacts and was stunned when I told them that was just their natural color. * This troper apparently has stunning eyes. They're gray-green, depending on the lighting, and one of them has chips of red. I never

thought of my eyes as being particularly beautiful until I went to the optometrist and had her exclaim, "Your eyes are amazing!". Since then, I've discovered that that opinion is quite common. * This is one of this troper's major fetishes, along with [[NerdsAreSexy intelligence]] and [[{{Adorkable}} awkwardness.]] Sadly, her eyes are a very unremarkable shade of dark brown, but her friend has amazing, ''huge'' blue-grey eyes. It's impossible not to stare at them when talking to [[StupidSexyFlanders her.]] Also, my father apparently used to receive a lot of positive and [[BlessedWithSuck negative]] comments about his light brown eyes, which was a bit rare where he used to live. * This Troper has been told I have big beautiful eyes. Her eyes are a nice brown that have sometimes appeared black and even hints of green. Go back to the [[WhatBeautifulEyes main article]], bright eyes. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WhatDidIDoLastNight * After months of getting drunk and waking up next to an ex boyfriend, this troper was somewhat relieved one day to wake up, and whilst not remembering the night before, at least she was waking up alone. Regrettably it was waking up alone in a hospital ward with 2 broken bones. * Anyone who's spent long enough at university will have stories like this. Although I wasn't involved in any of the incidents, the halls accumulated traffic cones, a temporary bus stop sign, a bicycle and a shopping trolley. One of my friends has similar stories involving ''sheep''. Yes, live ones. ** There are other things that can induce this, though. [[RuleOfFunny Mostly for our own amusement]], my friends and I still refuse to tell someone we know what he did while under hypnosis, aside from a few details (like that it's unfortunate that we don't have pictures.) * On our University Ski trip to Les Arcs 1800 (this becomes important), a fresher told me what had happened that morning. He woke up in bed with a French girl, wearing blue tights and a Superman tshirt. He went back to his room, before clocking that he wasn't in his own hotel. Leaving the hotel, he discovers he's in Arc *1600*, a good mile walk away. He ended up walking the whole way back because, still being drunk, he didn't realise that the shuttle bus service is free, and he had no money. He doesn't even remember leaving his room. * I had to take some oral drugs in preparation for some dental surgery. Right before the surgery, I was knocked out. The next thing I knew, I was in my bed at home. Did I mention that I live over an hour away from the place I had surgery? * There's this friend who was depressed at a party, so she decided to drink. And drink. And drink. And then she was so drunk she could barely stand, so I had to take care of her all night. She spoke drunk speak all night. Her panties were white, her vomit was pink because of the drinks she had. Her panties ended up pink because she puked on them while she was peeing. Some friends and I decided to get her only

in her panties because she had puked on everything she was wearing, but had to dress her again when her mom came to pick her up. So, you can guess what happens when she awakes and find herself with pink panties, other clothes and in her own house when she was supposed to stay for a sleep over in the place of the party... * [[@/SoWeAteThem This Troper]] remembers a friend of his who claims that, after a night of wild party and drinking, he would up out cold for two days, only to come to missing a shoe... and his pants... and on the Colorado State Border. We both live in California, if that helps any. * The morning after a friend's eighteenth birthday party, this troper's friend started noticing a growing pain in one shoulder. When she took the shirt off to check if something was wrong, she saw the ''massive'' hickey her boyfriend had given her the night before. He had been too drunk to realise how hard he was biting her, she to realise that she was actually in pain. Even better was the fact she had to work in a few hours, and her uniform wouldn't cover it up. * This troper's old class has a get-together after the funeral of our old homeroom teacher. We were all 16/17 at the time. My last memory was of looking at a clock before 10 PM. Next thing I know, I wake up at 4 AM, in the apartment building next to mine. I'm naked. There's a strange blanket over me. My clothes are on the floor below, mysteriously wet, as if they'd been dunked in water. My cell phone, however, is fine. No one else could tell me what happened. To this day, the events of that night remain a mystery. My best guess would be that I fell into a nearby river on the way home, staggered into the wrong building and made enough noise that one of the tenants covered me up. * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]] has had a few instances of this happen. Probably the weirdest was one morning, when I woke up to find myself passed out on the floor of my room while wearing one of my sister's dresses (Even weirder than that was that I was wearing her bra [[{{Squick}} and panties]] underneath said dress), while my normal clothes where hung from the ceiling fan, and a [[{{Pokemon}} Piplup]] plushie was lying on my back. I've yet to figure out exactly what happened that night... * This troper's brother had a going away Navy party, celebrated by her family and family friends. This troper woke up the next morning still drunk, in her bra and underwear, only one contact in, on a bed with no bottom sheets, next to a Chinese girl. This troper got up, and went to put clothes on, almost stepped on a guy passed out on her floor, and open her drawers to find shells EVERYWHERE. Her room looked like a hurricane had gone through it. It took the troper two year for FridgeLogic to kick in, "... How long had I been in my underwear before going to bed!?" She is still not entirely sure of what happened... * It once took this troper a full twenty seconds to verbally deduce where I was following a night out, with my thought processes something like this: -> Me: "Where am I? I know I'm in France, because there was that long coach journey. I think I'm skiing, because that's the only reason I'd travel to France by coach. But the main trip isn't until January, and

it's October...Barnes is aslepp on the floor, so I know there are other people from Bath Uni here...I'm on Captain's Trip!" * [[Tropers/KatanaCat This Troper]] is writing a FanFic which involves going from one universe to another, and these worlds include ones she created. One of her characters is known for throwing parties where nobody can ever quite remember what happened, and they tend to wake up the next day wondering why the hell they woke up in a big pile of corn flakes. Or why they seem to have lost/[[HalfDressedCartoonAnimal acquired]] clothing during the night... ** Update: [[Tropers/KatanaCat Troper]] has now changed it so that it is no longer a FanFic - all characters from various things she has not created have been replaced by original characters, and the main plot changed. For reference, the character that has those parties is Violet the Fennec Fox. Her house was accidentally cursed by her magic-using friend Cheryl the Thylacine, so that large gaps of time are forgotten by everyone present at any and all parties there. At one point someone comments that it's a very oddly specific curse, and wonders why those damn wizards thought it was a good idea to make something like that. * This Troper and his friends go to an anime convention, it becomes a case of [[WhatDidIDoLastNight What Did I Do Last Weekend?]] We've never had whole-weekend blackout, but there re always several gaps of at least a few hours where one of us can't remember what happened and the others do. Often, the gaps overlap, and we can only guess. Sometimes, when you've been told what you did, you remember it. [[GoMadFromTheRevelation This is not always a good thing]]. It's one thing not remember something ridiculous, another to be told you did but not remember, and quite another thing to remember when told about it that you did, in fact, drop 50 bucks on a year-long Costco membership, drink glasses of mixed drinks made with one part maple syrup and one part Crown Royal, and spike the (glass) coffee pot like a football (shattering it) because the goldfish crackers in it were stale. ** That Costco membership is one of the best decisions you could make when drunk. * On holiday in Spain, after taking my flu-ridden girlfriend back to the hotel to put her to bed, I went back out to the bar, safe in the knowledge I could get very drunk and not be the embarrassing boyfriend. Between roughly 1030pm and 9am, I remember: a shot of Jagermeister, ordering a vodka and coke, being confused by a door, and looking for my jacket, which I'm told was around 3am. Then I woke up with my face painted like a dalmatian, wearing odd shoes (neither of which belonged to me) and with my boxers on over my jeans. No idea. * One morning, this troper woke up to the smell of burnt hair. It turned out to be her own. "Okay," she thought "So [[NoodleIncident the bit with the candle]] was real." Then she went to the bathroom to wash the smell out of her hair and discovered a bruise on her leg. She still has no idea where it came from. A little later she got a phonecall from a guy she met that night. She does not remember giving him her number. [[SubvertedTrope But she's pretty sure he got it from her friend]]. ** Another night, this troper is quite sure she must have done something interesting, but her friend who was also there refuses to

tell her about it :( * I am what some would call a high-functioning alcoholic. I can do anything, absolutely plastered, and still remember. But the first time I drank, Freshman year of college, I only remember my friends and I leaning against each-other, hitting speed-dial to our other friend to pick us up. The accounts of that night are so blurry, I can't even begin to remember it. * This very first time this troper drank properly was at a party at a friends house, I remember puking then waking up the next day and remembering nothing else. It turns out I spent the majority of the night stalking some guy around the house untill he had to lock himself in a room and then I fell down a flight of stairs, scraping my back and giving myself concussion. After getting concussion my friends tried to put me into bed to go to sleep but had to change my clothes first as I had been sick on myself, I ended up giving one of her friends a bruise when I fought them off. I has never been allowed to live any of it down. * This troper's exact first words last Sunday morning, after a roleplaying session [[ItGotWorse (well, it was, at first)]]. I was... surprised by what I found out. * This troper once had a spectacular incident where I woke up in my dorm room at midday, with no recollection of what happened after I left a night club at 3am. My left hand bore a small amount of someone else's blood on the knuckles, no shirt (never found), and an essay on spectral analysis using a Michelson interferometer written in detail complete with calculations I had struggled with when sober. Later investigation showed that I visited the house of a friend who was having a party and was last seen helping chuck out her drunker ex which explains the blood... probably. ---Go back to WhatDidIDoLastNight. Of course, if you remember reaching there... ----

WhatDoesSheSeeInHim * This troper has been asked this with her boyfriend. He's chubby, plain, and an average student with no real athletic talent, as well as low self-esteem and confidence issues, but he is the sweetest, most caring and devoted guy she's every met. Plus, he can have a good sense of humor when you bring it out. ** This troper, who almost fits that description to a T (except I'm tall and thin and a fairly good student) wishes there were more girls like you in the world. ** Thirded. Seven cheers for good girls! * This troper was asked this once by a fellow she found extremely irritating. When she said, "He's the kind of guy who would never ask a girl he knew was deeply in love with her boyfriend that question", it produced a rather satisfying stunned silence. ** CrowningMomentOfAwesome there. I have a very good female friend who has a boyfriend who's way under her league (He's an ugly stoner who

isn't that bright, while she's a beautiful brilliant blond. No, I'm not interested in her), but I know that they genuinely love each other. At the end of the day, that's what matters. I did, however, say that to a girl who loved someone who treated her like shit. She then explained, and we're no longer friends. "He's good looking and has a guitar" is not a good answer. Ever. Okay? * One CrowningMomentOfAwesome for you. Meanwhile, one of my best friends recently went back (for the third time) to a layabout, lazy (''not'' BrilliantButLazy), TooDumbToLive, crude, perverted JerkAss. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he's ugly.]] Well, he's not a JerkAss to her (LoveRedeems?) and CantActPervertedTowardALoveInterest seems to be in effect, and he is crazy about her, but still... Just for the record, she's had a RealLife UnwantedHarem ''several times'' in the past, so it's not like she's starved for choice. ** it would have been Crowning if you didn't use a [[GrammarNazi sentence fragment]]. * Seconded that. This troper has a very attractive friend is completely amoured with foul smelling, humongous, stupid to the eighth degree of it and just plain unattractive. With her looks and personality she could pretty much have anyone of her choice, but no, she likes him. It must be the fact he is one whole year older... ** ... perhaps she isn't shallow about appearance or odour? Ever consider that possibility? * This troper's mother and sisters have repeatedly asked this about Troper's husband. You'd think, to judge by the recurring question, that he was abusive, ugly, irresponsible, or at the very least, badtempered. He's actually extremely mild and laid back, fond of animals, smart, generous, and playful. But he's also extremely ''quiet'' and rather shy...so they think he's useless. ** ... then what led them to have such a warped perception of him? * This troper was asked this by her best friend about her on-again off-again LoveInterest, a TroubledButCute, BrilliantButLazy commitmentphobe. Troper's answer? "You've never been in love, shut up." It never ends well, but after five years, she's still in love... and, for the life of her, she can't quantify why. * This troper's little brother still hasn't gotten over his unstable ex, who among other things constantly told him how she didn't need him yet constantly whined that he didn't pay enough attention to her, threw temper tantrums that gave him some really nice marks on his body and hooked up with another almost the day after he wisely broke it off. Note that he was foolish enough to still insist on being friends, leading to a sort of hope-she-breaks-up-with-him waiting game where she uses him to bitch about her current boyfriend and needs him available at all times to listen to her insecure ramblings, even on early Sunday mornings after a night out, yet whimsically cancels any appointments she makes with him at the last minute. He's forfeited nicer and stabler girls for her, and almost took up smoking because of the stress she causes him. After half a year of this nonsense he told me he's 'really getting fed up with her behaviour'. At this rate, he's stuck with this crap for the rest of his life. ** ... marks on his body? If she escalated it into physical abuse, shouldn't something be done about that?

* I tend to do this a lot to myself. Of course, other people do it to me, as well. One of my best friends went on a rant about why I shouldn't have liked my crush, and then I shot back, "I could say the same to you." That shut him up for a while. * One of this troper's best friends has a boyfriend. Said best friend is hyperactive, intensely creative, a great friend, caring, talkative, and makes this troper smile. Her boyfriend is usually uncomfortably silent, ''only'' enjoys ROTC, is rude to everyone (including his supposed friends and girlfriend), mutters comments under his breath, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking incredibly conservative]], the epitome of the American gun-toting stereotype, and is likely a homophobe (though this troper hasn't seen it proven, yet). WhatDoesSheSeeInHim? As selfish as it is, this troper is waiting for the day they break up, though this troper has ''never'' mentioned how much he dislikes her boyfriend and probably won't say anything bad about him after they break up, either. * This Troper's best friend made her question this for a couple of years, sticking herself in a relationship that was horrible. It was obvious to everyone but her. I mean, when your boyfriend guilt trips you to the point of crying just because you decided to hang out with your friend instead of him...Yeah. I asked myself this question several times throughout the year and a half they were together, especially after her boyfriend cussed me out viciously, calling me a bad influence and a "stupid fucking cunt". Needless to say, said friend learned to never bring him up around me unless it was an emergency. And thankfully, he's now her ex and she's with a decent guy now. * This troper has seen it twice: once in an extreme case of AllGirlsWantBadBoys - a guy was mean, stupid and ugly, yet the girl went after him (to make matters worse: the troper almost fell in love with her, and the guy is one of his worst enemies), even people who liked him (despite being a jerk) didn't understand how she did it. The other, is a classmate of his with a senior of ours, but just because they are a weird combination. * This Troper has wondered this a few times, most recently with a... friend of hers. Said friend was dating a girl, who treated him terribly, and was a bit of an InsufferableGenius {{Jerkass}}. Then again, This Troper may just have been [[GreenEyedMonster a bit]] [[AllLoveIsUnrequited biased]]. Now that he's broken up with that girl and admitted to liking someone else...well, to be honest, I don't know what he sees in me, either. :) * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]]'s sister was in one of these relationships a few years ago. The guy she was dating was hard to be around; he hated anything popular or "kiddy", hated anyone making even the slightest reference to those things he hates (I learned the hard way when dropping a small reference to {{Yu-Gi-Oh}}; one which only people who used to watch the show would understand), and hated my existence (While he's never straight-up given me TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, he did pretty much imply that I would never be successful in life because I still like {{Pokemon}}). Thankfully, they broke up once he became a total {{Jerkass}} towards everyone when he came back from a trip out-of-state to visit his mom.

* I still wonder what my ex saw in me. * My ex girlfriend was target ''many'' times with this question and after this troper asked she couldn't figure an answer. So yeah. * My whole family is wondering this with my older stepsister. She's beautiful, intelligent, has a Master's degree in library science, has a wide variety of interests. Her fiance is a really ugly guy with no personality and no interests other than beer, and who didn't finish college. Furthermore, he doesn't seem to show much interest in her; he won't move for her career (she has hardly anything in their current city) even though his would take no hit from it, simply because he's always lived in their current city and never wants to live anywhere else - he won't even move to their own house (it's the two of them plus a bunch of his obnoxious friends). She keeps talking about wanting to change him into something he's not, to closer fit her ideals. We're all wondering why she doesn't just search for the guy she wants instead of making ridiculous compromises to be with one who is seemingly (more than) imperfect. * [[{{Tropers/Luna87}} This troper's]] best friend in middle school had a crush for the longest time on this {{InsufferableGenius}}/HollywoodAtheist/ {{Jerkass}} in one of our extracurricular activities who [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking wasn't even all that good-looking]]. She knew that I didn't like the guy, and asked me if I could try to. I refused, stating my grievances, which she, as well as the third member of our Nakama defended this guy on ("He's smarter than a LOT of people"). Um, yeah, but not every smart person [[InsufferableGenius needs to be]] [[KnowNothingKnowItAll a complete ass about it]]. Anyway, she got over that. ** Also, my mother sometimes asks me this of my attraction to much older men. She thinks it has something to do with [[WellDoneSonGuy my relationship with my dad]], but I assure her that it's because I see guys closer to my age as being good friends, and not much deeper than that. So Yeah.... * This troper wonders this, but is too timid and/or polite to say it to anyone. There's possibly also a fear of being told ''exactly'' what she sees in him. * Non-romantic example: I have a couple of friends who are loyal, compassionate, trustworthy and generally good people. People wouldn't ask me what I see in them, right? Wrong! Those same friends can also be childish, immature, annoying, weird and downright stupid at times, and they're also misfits. Said people don't look beyond those qualities, prompting them to ask me why I hang out with them. * I have two examples of this, both from my best friends. One stayed in an abusive relationship for years, with a guy who was ugly, really stupid, psychopathic, and liked to hit her. She is free now though. My other friend helped her through the abuse, and encouraged her to leave him, although she is in a relationship with a guy who is grumpy, ugly, cheated on her, and they hate eachother. He is always calling her names and upsetting her, but she doesnt leave him as she doesnt have the money to have her own house, and doesnt recognise it as abusive as he doesnt hit her. * This troppette is pretty sure one of her best friends thinks this about her non-boyfriend. I know he's a dick sometimes, but he's also

really nice/loving and I'm no angel either, I'm a tortured artist ffs! * Found out some dude has a crush on me. No idea why. We scream insults in the halls and I kick, punch and mock him on a regular basis. Really, I am generally the most sourpuss, cynical person ever towards every single one of the boys at my school, he's obviously no different. The only explanation I ever managed to come up with is that he's some sort of masochist. * Everybody asks this question whenever they meet my sister's boyfriend. Their relationship can best be described as being like Romeo and Juliet's, if Romeo was the only member of the Montague family and everyone else in the entire world was the Capulet family. And it's even more like Romeo and Juliet in that she basically abandoned her family for some guy she barely knows. * My girlfriend was asked this and the person asking pretty much said "can't be his looks, definitly not his personality, unlikely to be his *ahem* and even more unlikely to be good in bed so what is it?" ironically in my gf's eyes she's wrong on all those points, kinda hurt that the person asking was a girl I had a crush on though. * This troper, as the [[OnlySaneMan only single person]] in his circle of friends, views relationships as a comedy gold mine, and often turns to this. When one half of a relationship goes on strange antics or says something particularly stupid, I will often say, "Can I ask you a personal question? What did you see in <her/him>?" * This troper's girlfriend's family say this about me - they're pretty conservative, and I'm...not. Also, your sixteen-year-old daughter going out with a younger, mouthy PerkyGoth with a taste for the macabre, and another girl to boot...well. Let's just say I'm not all that popular with her family and have done with it. * This troper basically believes it's not what SHE sees in him, it's something obvious about him that YOU DON'T see in him. * This always comes up with a friend of mine and her boyfriend. My friend is a pretty, sensible, and well-mannered lady who is generally well-liked and trusted by everyone she meets. Guy in question though is obnoxious, arrogant, has no concept of personal boundaries, and insists that everyone take him as he is, bad habits and all. He has a record of getting on the bad sides of so many people: classmates, university acquaintances, his girlfriend's high school friends, and even a number of college professors. This guy had the audacity to court my friend via text-messaging (a serious no-no). They've been together for four years. The running joke now is that this guy is going to end up as a 'house husband' while my friend climbs the corporate ladder. ---What does WhatDoesSheSeeInHim have that this page doesn't have? ---<<|TroperTales|>>

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Whatever * I say this at least once a day, even though English is neither my first, nor my main language. Swedish just doesn't have any word that you can use in the same way.

WhatHappenedToTheMouse * My mother once mentioned that my girlfriend might be related to me. She has not brought this up since. * Since Footloose does not exist on this site, I will discuss what bugged me here, that's similar to this. In the ending song, when everyone is dancing, they unleash a net full of glitter over the dancers. WHERE IN THE FUCK DOES ALL THE GLITTER COME FROM? ** From the same place they all had choreography lessons and rehearsed their songs from. It's a musical, Rule of Cheesy is law. * Mi friend wrote a short story which started with a man running away from the police. In the next chapter, the plot was about a group of people investigating paranormal events. The guy at the beginning is never mentioned again. * I accidentally did this in an article I was writing about something. Started off with a proper introduction and the points I was going to discuss. By the time it was done I had talked about a whole lot of things, but completely forgot to address some of the points that formed the basis for the article. Oops. * In High School, those of us in the Drama Club were the ones in the commercials that would be shown with the video announcements. We did one based on ''{{The Wizard of Oz}}'', but the girl who played the Dorothy expy had a dentist appointment for the last part of the shoot, so we just did it without her. The commercial aired nonetheless. * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]] accidentally did this when writing one story ages ago. Originally, the group of main characters where going to head into the main city to investigate what happened; which would lead to them figuring out what happened after a wild party that resulted in a city-wide FreakyFridayFlip. While they mention they were going to investigate at the end of one chapter, I somehow forgot to write that part of the story; instead, the chapter right after skips to the group, already knowing what happened and who was behind it, going on a quest to recover the 7 {{Mineral MacGuffin}}s before the villains can with little explanation. * This troper did a news program in middle school. The first day that it was shot, there was a female co anchor with him named "Alex". She left the school a few days later and was replaced with another girl

named "Kay". While Kay ended up more popular with the rest of the school, every student was perplexed with Alex's disappearance...mostly due to the fact that they had never seen her before the newsprogram...or after. * The first computer my family ever had we got around December 1989. The guy in the store talked us into getting a Magnavox Headstart 3000, arguing that it was cutting edge and came highly recommended. We had the computer for a couple of years, replaced it with another one, and did I don't know what with the old one--and to this very day I have never, ever, ever seen or heard any further reference to the three thousand even when seeking them out using a search engine. Had it not been for the fact that I spent endless hours at it playing games like ''Uridium'' and ''Alternate Reality: The City'' I would have no proof whatsoever even in my own memory that the three thousand ever existed. It's almost spooky in a way. * In a Star Trek RP, the main characters were caught in a plot developed by Q. During the start of it, the Doctor, an NPC, got turned into a mouse. The plot is resolved, everyone's happy, and the mouse is never again mentioned. ---[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse What Happened to the Main Article?]] ----

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WhatMeasureIsANonCute * Subverted, as my family allows me to own a [[BigCreepyCrawlies scorpion]], a [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent python]] and a [[FeatheredFiend parrot]], all of whom are all friendly, loving and loyal. However I do like [[HeroicDog dogs]], [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys monkeys and apes]] and [[EverythingsBetterWithKangaroos kangaroos]]. But I find [[CatsAreMean cats]] some of the vilest lifeforms on the planet. But only the domestic ones. * ZigZagged with me and one of my Original characters: To me cute animals include Bats, Snakes, Skunks and rats. But He cringes if he eve sees a rat swimming. His OC only likes creepy animals except for penguins. * I find myself doing a form of this trope when I go out to cut down trees for the winter's firewood. While I do prefer to take dead trees when I can, when I have to cut live ones I practice "What Measure is a Non Scenic?" I know conservation-wise it would probably be better to take one large tree than several smaller ones, but the big ones are just so pretty! * This troper tries to avert this trope in his works and his life. * This troper likes all sorts of reptiles and most insects and arachnids (except solifugids, and ''don't'' look that up if you're already afraid of bugs or don't want to be.) In fact, her concern for endangered reptiles almost goes into What Measure Is A ''Cute'', saying things like "Yes I know, the bears who only eat one thing and

don't fuck are cute. Can we pay attention to Komodo dragons too, please?" * Subverted: The only bugs I hate are the dead ones, because dead bugs are so disgusting. * Averted with this troper. He pretty much tends to look out for any animal he sees, and will actually try and shield these "non-cutes" from harm. ---Go back to WhatMeasureIsANonCute, you poor, misunderstood creature ----

WhatTheHeckIsAnAglet * [[{{Tropers.Jomar}} This troper's]] economics professor once used aglets for an example during a class, explaining to everyone present what an aglet was. ** [[PhineasAndFerb A-G-L-E-T]], [[EarWorm don't forget it]]... * This troper once had "What is an aglet?" come up in a trivia quiz on a school camp. She was the only one in the whole year who knew what it was, purely thanks to this wiki. After she'd said where she read it, she was informed that she spent far too much time on the internet by her teammates. She heartily agrees. * A trivia poster in [[Tropers/ARandomSerf this troper's]] dorm explained, among other things, what aglets were. I had to add "[[JusticeLeague Their true purpose is sinister]]" myself. * This troper does this quite frequently. * Two classmates were betting if I knew what an aglet was. I did. And totally because I love JusticeLeagueUnlimited. * ...What the heck IS an aglet?! ** It is a magical artifact the Gods created before the dawn of time to keep the end of your shoelace from getting all frayed and coming apart. ---Take your shoelaces and...[[WhatTheHeckIsAnAglet those things on the ends]]...back to the main article. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WhatTheHellIsThatAccent * I have a teacher whose accent is such that "not local" [[SuspectIsHatless is the best we can do]]. Theories for possible origins include Germany, Switzerland, and Sweden. * This tropers accent confuses everyone she meets. Past accusations include- German, Cornish, New York, Texas, and ValleyGirl. * I have a teacher who pulled this as a joke on the first day of school, to the point where he was very hard to understand. We only found out he spoke normally the next day. There was a pseudo-reason for it, but it was mostly just ForTheLulz. * This troper has a friend who can speak normally (albeit with emphasis on consonants at the ends of words), but his favourite accent

to do is a mad cross between German and Jamaican. * This Canadian troper overpronounces his words to the point of sounding Southern. * This English troper is from Yorkshire, but for the most part has a fairly neutral/RP accent. At one point at university, I was asked if I was Welsh! * My old astronomy professor talked weird. He sounded British, maybe Scottish or Welsh, and had lived in Muncie, Indiana for a few years. Turns out he was from Buffalo, New York. * This troper is also English and doesn't think she has much of an accent at all, but has been mistaken for American, Canadian, Austrailian and even South African. * This American troper will occasionally put on a vaguely European accent for lulz. The thing is, nobody (including this troper) can identify exactly what ''part'' of Europe it's supposed to be from. His friends have dubbed it the "universal accent". * Great way to start a conversation with an attractive foreigner ;) * This Brazilian troper apparently talks in a way so weird a few people think he's a foreigner. * I've picked up my British mum's accent, but I live in America. People are always asking about it, when they're not just trying to guess where it's from. For some reason, even though most people guess correctly that it's British, I've also gotten "Norwegian" and "Scottish". Norwegian? Really?! * This troper's mom & dad are from South Africa and Uganda, and they have British accents. Yet I, born in [[CanadaEh Canada]], have a "neutral' accent. * This Troper is from New Jersey, but has watched so much British TV that she sometimes slips into a half-English accent that sounds something like a mix between RP and a Manc, with oddly Scottish pronunciations on some words. * The maintenance guy in my building has an accent that, to date, no one has been able to place, made more confusing since due to his name (Washington) many people assume he's African American until they meet him in person, and are rather nonplussed when they realize he's actually a white guy. * Even living in a part of his state that already has a fairly rare/ambiguous accent, [[{{Tropers/JHM}} This Troper]] and his family get this one sometimes. * This troper suffered a speech impediment as a child, and went through speech therapy. The result left her with an accent that people truggle to place. People have guessed; New York, New Jersey, Boston, England, Australia, Austria, France, Germany and Czechoslovakia(which was clearly grasping at straws) * My friends have tried guessing my accent. Some guesses have been Southeast America, England, and French. Actually, I mostly speak with the same West Virginia accent as my dad, but sometimes it combines with my mom's Spanish accent, and my sister says my vowels sometimes sound Irish (my mom spent part of her teen years in Ireland). * This Australian troper's accent has been pegged as anywhere from irish to russian, though english (or 'posh') is the most common. * A former classmate of mine, whose parents are from New Zealand, has

a perfect American accent himself, but has an older sister whose American accent is perfect except for that she picked up the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_English_short_A #Trap-bath_split trap/bath split]] from her parents, which makes listening to her really disorienting: Something like "Can I ask you a question?" sounds perfectly American except for "ask", which sounds horribly British. The extremely rapid transition between perceived accents always puts me horribly off balance when listening to her. * Our school did TheSecretGarden for our school musical, and the boy who played Dicken couldn't keep his accent straight. He was supposed to be doing a Yorkshire accent, but he ended up doing everything from Irish to Boston to Scotland; basically, everything but Yorkshire. All of us in the Pit Orchestra made fun of him mercilessly, as it's the Pit's job to mock the cast whenever possible.

WhatWereYouThinking * On the GallifreyBase forums it's pretty much a tradition that any reasonably popular thread will receive about four dozen parody threads, with varying degrees of funniness. One TooDumbToLive poster decided it'd be funny to parody a thread which just happened to be a tribute to a well-known, well-liked and recently deceased writer of ''Series/DoctorWho''. When some other users pointed out that this parody thread was just a teensy bit inappropriate, the original poster replied with a sarcastic "Sorry you don't have a sense of humour" post, and for the remainder of the thread's life until it was locked by a moderator, the posts were a mixture of angry flames and people asking the original poster why in the hell he thought the thread was a good idea. The strange thing was, the user in question didn't have any history of being a troll -- near as anyone could tell, he just had monumentally poor judgement in this case. ---[[WhatWereYouThinking What on Earth possessed you to look at this page?! Get back to the main article, now!]] ----

WhatWouldXDo * [[@/JET73L ThisTroper]] tried to start a [[{{Scrubs}} What Would JD Do]] movement, but it ended mostly in failure. Still uses it seriously, but not as much as in parody. ** Presumably he'd have a really weird-but-funny daydream. * [[@/{{Indigo}} This troper]] frequently read "WWJD" as: ** What would [[XMen Jubilee]] do? ** What would [[ArchieComics Jughead]] do? ** What would [[XMen Juggernaut]] do? ** What would [[SpiderMan J. Jonah Jameson]] do? ** What would [[{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}} Jo Nah]] do? ** What would [[StargateSG1 Jack O'Neill]] do? *** Either [[IncendiaryExponent blast the hell out of it]] or sic [[PersonOfMassDestruction Sam Carter]] on it.

**** After mangling its name into something comical and just before delivering a dry one-liner. ** No mention of What Would [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration Jean-Luc Picard]] do? (Ignore [[PatrickStewartSpeech the most obvious answer]]) *** Actually, [[@/{{Cosman246}} this troper]] does think in a [=WWJean-Luc PicardDo=] way, to an extent.... * This troper has a "What Would Scooby-Doo?" shirt. * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]] wants to eventually buy a "What Would [[{{Half-Life}} Gordon Freeman]] Do?" bumper sticker to put on the lid of his laptop. * This troper really wants a T-shirt that says, "What would [[{{The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya}} Haruhi]] do?" ** And now, so does this one! I'm sure they exist somewhere... * When faced with a tough life decision, just remember to ask yourself "What Would Batman Do?" I think he would cut the lights and take out everyone in the room one by one. * As a Determinator with a dream, this troper's phrase of choice for tough moments is "What Would [[{{One Piece}} Luffy]] Do?" * What Would Jesus Do?... For a Klondike Bar? is one of this troper's favorites. ** Win. * This troper's dad had something to say to a person who asked him that. "What Would Jesus Do?" "[[{{Take That}} Get nailed to a cross and die]]." * This troper is wearing a shirt that reads [[{{Batman}} WWBD.]] It has a [[IncrediblyLamePun bat]]tered Batarang directly below it. Whenever anyone asks her this question, she responds [[BadassNormal "Beat up criminals with his bare hands."]] ---WhatWouldXDo? Why, he'd go right back to {{What Would X Do}}, of course! ----

WhatYouAreInTheDark * This anonymous troper was once given a chance to utterly destroy one of his hated enemies using information about his personal life (including his address, phone number, and information about his family.) When he told his ex-girlfriend (who had cheated on him with this scumbag) what he could do with this information, she told him that she would keep it a secret and that no one would ever know. [[spoiler:This troper ended up never doing anything with the information and instead moved on with his life, forgetting about the both of them.]] * Online quizzes, at least when this troper was smaller, have a tendency to ask what you would do if you found $20 lying on the ground/floor of a public place. Always answered that it'd be kept, up until the scenario actually happened. A crowded hallway, nobody would've known, was made late for my next class by taking to the L&F. ** [[Tropers/MadarseLizard I]] "failed" that test by [[SubvertedTrope pocketing it and walking away]].

** This troper feels that this is an idiotic manifestation of this trope. If it's on the ground, in public, it no longer belongs to anybody. This is not a test of ethics or character. What are you going to do, put an ad for it on craigslist? How on Earth would you know that the true owner is the one coming forward? If it were someone's wallet, or you saw it fall out of someone's pocket, then I get it, but if it's just a twenty dollar bill sitting on the ground, there is absolutely nothing unethical about keeping it. Count your blessings. Buy yourself some lunch, give some of it to a homeless person if that makes you feel better. But if you lose cash, it's lost. It's not a question of ethics or character, it's just impossible to determine who dropped it. I promise, if I ever am in a situation where I lose a twenty dollar bill, and someone finds it and somehow tracks me down to give it to me, I will call them an idiot to their face and tell them they should have kept it. Though rest assured, I WILL take it back. On another note, this troper now resolves to periodically go to the lost and found of various establishments, tell them I lost a twenty dollar bill, and ask if anybody found it. ** My brother found a $5, underwater, that had apparently fallen out of someone's pocket. He kept it. I've come across money once or twice, and kept it, unless the person who may have dropped it is in front of me. * When it comes to "No one will ever know" scenarios, the rub for this Troper is always ''how do you know for sure no one will ever know?'' Did you check the area for hidden cameras and/or listening devices? Did you make sure no one was hiding nearby, maybe behind those curtains or that tree? Were you careful not to leave anything incriminating behind when it came to abscond? How can you be 100% certain nobody will ever find you out, possibly even by some other means you failed to account for? All of these are questions you would do well to consider before you do something in the dark you wouldn't want brought to light... ** There's this thing called paranoia, you may want to read a little bit on that and maybe see a professional. *** [[ProperlyParanoid It isn't paranoia if they really]] ''[[ProperlyParanoid are]]'' [[ProperlyParanoid out to get you.]] **** Yes, it is. If you ''know'' for a fact that they're after you then it isn't, but it is if you're just an idiot whose foolish fantasy just happens to be correct. * This troper was taking a test in math, and one portion was with no graphing calculator, the other with it. However, the sheet was doublesided so one could easily go back at the end and put the equations in to find the answer, and the teacher wasn't really paying much attention. This troper wasn't sure of one of his answers, and was thinking about putting it in and correcting it. After a few minutes of internal deliberation, he decided not to do it. A few days later, he got his text back. He got a 62, and the answer was wrong. He would have passed it if he cheated, but he still feels like he did the [[HonorBeforeReason right thing.]] * Extremely minor example occurred with this tropette finding FIVE CENTS on the ground. Problem was, it was right outside the canteen at a Boys and Girls Club, and five cents could be the difference between

affording lunch and not. I turned it into the lost and found and got some weird looks. * More than once, this troper has seen a packet of cigarettes or some such thing fall out of someone's pocket. Particularly on the bus. He had no qualms whatsoever with putting them into his own, even moments after worrying greatly that something similar had happened to him with something considerably more expensive. It would've been incredibly easy to give them back, too. What can I say, I'm [[ChaoticNeutral a bit of a douche]] ---Go ahead, here's a link back to {{What You Are In The Dark}}. Don't worry: no one will ever know... ----

WhenIWasYourAge * [[Tropers/{{Agent0042}} This Troper]] was regularly told that in his father's day, there were no buses and he had to walk uphill to school two miles both ways, in the snow. ** Since this troper's father lived in Massachusetts, in a house on a rather steep hill, he ''really did'' have to walk uphill (or downhill) in the snow for two miles to get to school. And then he took a third option and simply waited by the side of the road and stopped the bus when it drove by. The place where he waited is now an honest-togoodness bus stop, even today. Or so he says... * [[Tropers/{{NaomiLawliet}} This Tropette's]] parents/grandparents/older family members are CONSTANTLY saying "When I was your age, people were politer." [[DeadpanSnarker Cue my saying "Oh, THAT'S absolutely correct. And segregation, the Civil Rights Movement, and the red scare/McCarthyism never happened."]] * When my grandma was my age (18) she was already married. And had an abortion. And was about to get pregnant with my mom. * Averted by this troper's gandmother: -->"When I was your age, kids were pretty much as wild and stupid as they are now." * Look on '''''any''''' video game forum. '''''especially''''' the official board for any Online game. At least three threads of people bitching at new players while saying ItsPopularNowItSucks get posted an ''hour''. Back in my day, we didn't have shortcuts like [[{{When I Was Your Age}} this one here]]! We had to type it out, every time!

WhenSheSmiles * This Troper's PlatonicLifePartner (not so much from my side) is normally not so bad looking, but when she smiles, she is just amazing. And she does a little sound effect to go with it. * [[ThisIsATest This Troper]] has had a ridiculously played out crush on a girl for several years. The girl is actually very plain, when you look at her, but is utterly irresistible when she smiles. He would like to post a pic, but feels that would be a little creepy.

** ... Ian? *** ... yes? This Troper probably isn't who you're thinking of, but it's one of those coincidences. (It's not even my Troper tale...) *** ... If it is you, [[EngagingConversation I will find you and marry you.]] No objections. And now for the test: What does the phrase 'invisible birds' mean to you? *** This random passerby troper believes this conversations qualifies for a Crowning Moment of Heartwarming. *** As does this one. If it really is true, this moment belongs in a movie. *** Not to ruin the moment, but c'mon you guys!! Don't leave us hanging like that, tell us what happened! Did you find each other? Was it HappilyEverAfter? *** Unfortunately, it was just one of those coincidences. We weren't who the other was thinking of, but if it's any consolation, the exchange prompted me (the Girl) to reconnect with my Ian, and we are going out for dinner in the near future. c: **** Happy endings all 'round. This Troper (the wrong Ian) is happy beyond his wildest dreams, entirely in the spirit of this little exchange. *** UnknownTroper, I just wanted to say that I'm happy for you and I wish you well in the future. Congratulations! :D *** Who said TV Tropes will ruin Your Life? * [[TheTallOne Me.]] Compare [[http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2577/4160384029_d3d6bfe14e.jpg not smiling ]] with [[http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2654/4161140082_677ecaa64d.jpg smiling.]] ** You really need to smile more often. :D ** T-this troper actually found you very pretty, even when you didn't smile... <3 ** Were you trying your hardest to look serious in pic one? (You succeeded) Nonetheless...girl, why you so pretty? *** *blushes, scuffs foot* Aww, gee whiz. ** I must say, your smile is quite pretty :D ** I also agree that your have a really lovely smile and should use it more. =3 * Inverted with [[Tropers/ARandomSerf this troper.]] He's normally okay-looking, but his smiles--especially those that show teeth--are rather grotesque. ** Same for [[{{Tropers/Lioyd}} this one.]] He even trained himself to struggle against smiling, going as far as putting his mouth back into place with his ''hands''. ** Same for this troper. She can make a small smile look pretty, but has taught herself not to grin or smile with her lips open because of how bad it looks on her. ** Same for [[{{Tropers/KayvanShrike}} me]], to the point that my D&D group has issued a standing order that I am not to smile without laughing because it looks really, really creepy. * I die a little inside knowing that it will probably never be. Due to me being butt ugly and personally repulsive. ** I bet you're beautiful.

** We must be related. I consider myself ugly, and I am constantly depreciating my stale personality. ** That makes two of us. While I don't think of myself as ugly very much anymore, my personality still needs some work. * I often feel the exact opposite of this; a wide smile makes even the most beautiful women look worse. ** Well, of course an insincere smile looks poorly on everyone. ** But isn't there such a thing as a wide, sincere smile? ** It's not about sincerity. I just have a weird taste. * Due to her parents' divorce ending with me and my Mam in a separate COUNTRY whilst I as still in primary school and my step-dad's 11 weeks in hospital (over Christmas) has left me with a face of [[TheStoic stoic]] [[TheWoobie miserableness]] and I tendency to smirk cynically at the world instead of smiling and wear a lot of dark colors. One day I just decided I'd moped about enough, got over myself, painted my room orange and started smiling. Cue [[DoubleTake the double takes]].[[PerkyGoth I still wear the black though XD.]] * There's a guy in this troper's class who has a very cheerful smile. As a better description, it's as if he's got a bunch of laughter inside him and some of it slips out into his smiles. When he smiles, it never fails to brighten up my whole day. * A male example: There's a boy who this troper likes. He's a very stoic, poker-faced individual, and he so rarely talks that most people have no idea what his teeth look like. But when he smiles, he's so absolutely adorable and bright that this troper has to do whatever it takes to not let out a fangirl squee. ** This troper knows a very similar person; great smile and eyes, but he never changes his expression or takes off his [[CoolShades sunglasses]]. And it's a shame. * Yesterday, this troper was actually rendered speechless by the sight of her usually stoic, scary-shiny-glasses wearing best friend smiling sweetly and looking like a complete meganekko. SQUEE ensued. She (the friend) was kind of just like 'whut?' and went back to default expression afterwards, though... * This Troper feels that there is no such thing as a woman who is less attractive when she smiles than she is with any other expression. * [[GoatBoy This troper]] is a sucker for a cute smile. Just look at some of his favorite actresses; MaggieGyllenhaal, ZooeyDeschanel, AmberBenson, AliciaWitt, AudreyTautou, etc... Flash him a cute smile, and he's jelly. * Every guy this troper has dated has claimed that her smile is her best feature. She personally doesn't see anything remarkable about her smile, but she'll take their word for it. * [[AckSed This troper]] had some random guy I semi-knew say after he took my photo at a cosplay party, "You should smile more. You're very handsome when you smile." I'm ''male'', but... thanks. I think. I cannot force a smile for a photo, though -- my face will not let me, and I'm not sure I want to fake one either. Staged photos give the impression I'm miserable. * [[{{Divra}} This troper]]... A rather abrasive personality helped by depression-related moodswings, coupled with rather forbidding facial features. Ridged, low eyebrows, sunken eyes with permanent black

circles, a mouth that naturally perma-frowns, a not very large but very noticeable facial scar, and to top it off, the hair and beard of a Hell's Angel. His natural facial expression has made random people ask him why he's angry, and scared small children into crying. His smile has been described as lighting up a room, and he has been told that he's just SO cute when he smiles... * One of my closest friends is an incredibly attractive girl with some serious self-confidence issues, but when she genuinely smiles and laughs, she instantly becomes the most beautiful girl I've ever known. It's a shame she doesn't show that side of her more often... * This troper was told by a lover, "You're so beautiful when you laugh." And then, "And really cute when you blush!" * This troper seldom smiles for various reasons (I have [[{{Broken Bird}} clinical depression driven by a pretty sad childhood caused by bullying]], as well as [[{{Well Done Son Guy}} feeling like I'm not making my parents proud]] and just having an earnest nature). However, I'm told I have a beautiful smile. * My girlfriend. She's always beautiful, but when she smiles she's a goddess. (According to her, I'm similar.) * [[{{MidnightVelvet}} This troper]] is, apparently, a rare subversion. I'm already unattractive (one female friend though I was "cute", but only because I remind her of a teddy bear), but when I smile, I pretty much look like a zombiefied pothead serial killer / rapist. ** Same with this troper. If it wasn't for the fact that I look big, soft, and cuddly, people wouldn't say anything about me that relates to my looks. My natural face makes me look like I'm angry, and when I smile, it doesn't look much better. And my personality doesn't make up for it at all. ** Same with this one as well. Her default expression is surprisingly serious, but the only change a smile brings is to show off the bags underneath her eyes. * For the longest time, [[AstraKiseki this troper]] has been selfconscious of her teeth in photographs, so she has always smiled with her mouth shut. One of her online friends began to insist that her closed-mouth smile looks more like a [[{{Exalted}} Sidereal]]'s smirk, cool and serene under pressure, until finally the troper sent a picture of her showing her yellowish teeth. The answer was "Good lord, now ''that's'' a smile." I started looking at old pictures and realized I ''did'' look better with my grins, so... I've started posing with teeth showing again. * This troper is so ugly it goes beyond the impossible and loops back on itself into a singularity. But when she smiles or laughs - and I mean a real, genuine smile - you can see the emotion on her face and it makes everything better again. * This troper, during her many years with ugly teeth and then with braces, basically stopped smiling much beyond a small grin. Even when she thought she was smiling, she wasn't really, as she learned from looking at her pictures in the school yearbook. About a week ago, she got her braces off. All of a sudden, EVERYONE is commenting on how beautiful her smile is, and her orthodontist even said that she should go for Miss America with that smile.

* Experienced this in a big way recently. There was a French girl on my course who I got on with pretty well, and every now and again I'd wonder why I seemed to be developing a huge crush on her... then I'd tell her a joke, and ''ohhhh'' yeah that's why. Well, that or [[EverythingSoundsSexierinFrench she'd start speaking French...]] * This troper's best friend is already ''adorable'', in an ImTakingHerHomeWithMe way. Heart-shaped face, large eyes (Grey eyes, my ''god'') and can pull off the cutest "I'm confused, please explain" look. Oh, and her being TheWoobie in our RagtagBunchOfMisfits does help. But, when she laughs, giggles, or just ''goddamn smiles''... It makes my whole day, to know I've made her happy. In a less LesYay way, I adore cute boys with hair over their eyes and shy little grins. They get me every time. * My best friend has a really beautiful smile, when she smiles it always makes me smile too, especially cause of all the trouble shes been through in the past-shes a very strong person to get through it all and still be smiling. * This troper has a close friend who is virtually always grumpy and cold. He smiles less than anyone I know, but when he does... its gorgeous. He has an amazing smile, quite possibly BECAUSE he never smiles. * This troper regularly smiles at random people on the bus. Most people do not dare to meet my gaze, but the few times someone smiles back make it all worth it. Everyone is beautiful with a smile on their face. ** Except for this troper. ** This troper bets it's not as bad as the above troper thinks it is. * [[@/{{MiraShio}} My friends]] seem to have an inverted opinion of this. They think I look adorable when I cry because my face turns a deep red (I'm one of the fair-skinned ones in a Filipino class). And then there's [[LoveInterest someone]] who invokes affectionate laughter or brings a smile to my face with the memory of his... * Ah, [[@/DeltaOne This Troper's]] first love. Waaay back when. She was always cute, but her smile... it could melt steel at twenty paces. Whenever I read about [[RedDwarf Kochanski's "Pinball Smile"]], I always think of Seahawk. * This Troper's friend has a bit of an odd facial structure that comes together perfectly when she smiles or laughs hysterically. Considering she is a very theatrical LargeHam... * The girl [[@/{{Min}} I]] adore has a cute but slightly awkward face - all nose and chin and forehead - until she smiles, when I personally think she becomes the most beautiful girl in the world. As an added bonus, I know that my own face lights up every time she walks into the room, which means that I am at least at my best advantage whenever she sees me. * Averted. My default facial expression (or lack thereof) is... [[EmotionlessGirl nothing at all]]. The reason why I avoid all but the tiniest of smiles? Cartoony Christmas elf cheeks plus huge mouth plus massive overbite and giant horse teeth equals {{gonk}}. So much for this trope. * My best friend is already damn gorgeous - tall, slim with porcelain white skin, blonde hair, large blue eyes and rosy cheeks - but

daaaaaamn, when she smiles... her face seems to light up and she's just got this adorable, but still confident grin on her face. Girl looks like a freaking top model. And I sound like a PsychoLesbian StalkerWithACrush right now, so I'd better stop writing this in case she happens to read this and thinks I fancy her. * This troper has a freshwoman who's hot but mostly [[TheStoic stoic]] or [[PerpetualFrowner frowning]]. When she entered college, he didn't care much for her. Then 6 months later, he started spending time with her, and most important, seeing her smile... and not only she became his favorite freshie, but the woman which he is constantly afraid of falling in love with. * This troper has a usually snarky demeanor, and it's usually hard to get a genuine smile or laugh from her. But she has gotten a few compliments about her laugh, even though she thinks it's reminiscent of a hyena's... * Both girls that this troper likes are very attractive and cute. Neither of them smile much though, but when they do, this troper's heart easily melts. And even though both of them deny it, they are soooo freaking adorable when they smile. * I think that this trope is especially true for those ones who never smile. There's a boy in my class who never smiles, so when he does, it takes me completely by surprise. He's kind of plain usually but when he smiles...damn. * Smiles don't suit this troper's face (as in, they look completely unnatural), so I rarely smile because I'm aware of how strange they look. Yeah, I've been single pretty much my whole life, although I have heard rumours of people attracted to me because I'm (in my sister's work friend's words (passed to me by my sister)) "kinda cute". * According to my mom and stepdad, I both play this straight and invert it. When I ''try'' to smile or force a smile, I look [[TheUnSmile utterly terrible]], but when I actually ''do'' smile, I look cute. * Literal example with me. My girlfriend and I literally live on opposite sides of the world (she's Chinese, I'm American), and neither of us has a job good enough to see the other very often. But she constantly smiles whenever we talk via webcam, and that smile is enough to tell me that she's still in love with me. * Averted by this troper, he is moderately good-looking, and he has been told several times that he would look more attractive if he smiled. However, the people who say that are always proven wrong when he does smile, because genuine or otherwise, it looks look goofy, and not in a cute way. * This troper has a very dear friend who is basically [[FullMetalPanic Sousuke]]. Handsome, but always has his eyebrows in an angry slant, a cold look on his face at all times, is considered very rude, frightening, and unapproachable, but when he smiles or laughs, this troper just melts. The first time this troper saw him smile, her heart just stopped. His smile makes me smile. In contrast, this troper has this effect on him sometimes. Inverted, however, by me. Guys always tell me I look my best when I'm pissed off to all hell. He (my friend) says I look pretty when I cry but he'd prefer it if I didn't [[strike:

since it's always his fault when he sees me cry.]] * A friend of mine once told me that my face was perfect when I smile. One of the best compliments I've ever gotten. * I have a friend who looks ok with her default expression, but she gets twice as cute when she laughs or smiles. Which is often. She also has a really cute laugh. * This troper has never been told that he has a nice smile, but he has been informed on multiple occasions that when he starts smiling randomly,(which happens a lot), it looks like a Slasher Smile. When combined with his Evil Laugh, it has achieved pleasurable results. * This troper knows a guy like this. In the past year he's had a nervous breakdown and spent a month in a psychiatric hospital. He's sort of awkward looking and not really remarkable most of the time, but when he smiles... it's like seeing the sun for the first time. It makes this troper instantly happy whenever she sees it. * My friend, who is often depressed, is absolutely adorable when she smiles and I can't help but to say 'awe' when she does. However, when she ''pouts'', I can't help but to squeal and hug her. If we weren't best friends she probably would have a restraining order on me. * This troper has a BadassLongcoat, DeathGlare when so much as mildly annoyed, and EmotionlessGirl otherwise, as a result of emotional BullyingTheDragon as a kid. Smiling at dogs and pigeons and small children really, really confuses her friends. ** According to [[{{Tropers/nomuru2d this troper]]'s girlfriend and family, he has this kind of smile. It's a rare sight considering his years of low self-esteem and loathing of social interaction, but it does show up more often than it used to nowadays. * This girl from my class is cute but in a normal way. She's a silent, shy, sulky nerd and isn't very affectionate with anyone. But goddamn, every time she smiles I feel like I'm falling in love with her. * Inverted with this troper. When she's neutral, sad, or pouting, she's regarded as very attractive. But when she smiles, ick. Oversized, yellow teeth, and unsymmetrical to boot. Even if she's not showing teeth it's ugly. This really sucks, because she's laughing all the time. * [[{{@/Tidal_Wave_17}} This troper]]. When he doesn't smile, his mouth gets set into a :| type expression, and he looks years older. When he smiles, his whole face lights up and he looks like a little kid again. * This Troper has a friend who is Beautiful as She is (Red hair,Brown eyes,porcelain skin) but when She smiles,She lights up everything around Her.Is it any wonder I have had an unknown crush on Her for some time? * Partial example: MarilynMonroe. She was always [[http://www.bartcop.com/marilyn-monroe001.jpg gorgeous,]] but her beauty seemed to multiply [[http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/marilynmonroe/marilyn _monroe_3.jpg when she smiled.]] Likely helped by her Woobie status, knowing how tragic her life was, you don't want to see her as sad. * Most people look better when they smile, as opposed to looking angry or sad. * A rare subversion: When Victoria Beckham was in the Spice Girls, she

mentioned that she didn't like the way she looked when she smiled, so she tended to be photographed looking [[http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Spice-Girls.jpg very intense.]] However, on the occasions when she does smile, it tends to look [[http://blogue.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/VictoriaBeckham.jpg a little forced.]] * Colin Farrell is a renowned PerpetualFrowner and almost always looks [[http://www.maryzinhalokinha.blogger.com.br/colin-farrell.jpg gritty]] or [[http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/27/2772/Z9WTD00Z/posters/co lin-farrell.jpg serious]] when photographed. Which contributes to his EstrogenBrigadeBait status. However, the rare times when [[http://www.celebrific.com/wpcontent/uploads/2006/03/Colin%20Farrell.jpg he does]] [[http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/mmph/262179.jpg smile]], he looks just too cute for words. * It's often said that while Julia Roberts is, of course, always pretty, her smile is what makes her beautiful. ** [[YourMileageMayVary Some people disagree and think she looks like]] [[NightmareFuel a goblin, and even moreso when she smiles.]] * Franka Potente is actually a bit plain until she smiles. * AudreyHepburn might be considered like this, except she was so damn good-looking to begin with. ** Actually, she just smiles a lot. *** She's got a damn cute pout, too. ** Ditto Anne Hathaway. ** When it comes to that, AudreyTautou fits this trope to a T. * Admit it, most people (both male and female) look different (and better) with a healthy, sincere grin - which is unfortunately difficult to replicate in posed photographs. But still! * BilliePiper is this trope. She's a typical pretty blonde, but when she smiles she becomes blindingly beautiful. * CillianMurphy is already handsome to begin with, but he's so much more lively when he cracks a smile. ** YourMileageMayVary, as he is also listed on the SlasherSmile page. * CandiceBergen with no smile is a model of cool, refined elegance. CandiceBergen ''with'' a smile is, quite simply, heartstopping. * What about ChristopherEccleston for a RareMaleExample? Big ears, big nose, generally weird, rough features -and a really amazing smile. ** Already mentioned in the Series/DoctorWho section, but it's worth mentioning twice. * EvaLaRue. 'Nuff said. * Hayley Atwell. Good god, Hayley Atwell. She's a looker regardless, though not fitting the profile of most CookieCutterCuties and boasts a healthier figure. But when she smiles, she's like a wee happy god. * [[AllisonJanney Allison]] [[TheWestWing Janney]]. * Dianna Agron is stunningly pretty even when she's crying, but her smile takes it UpToEleven. * AmandaTapping (of ''StargateSG1'' fame) is quite stunning regularly, but her smiles manage to make her look drop dead gorgeous, adorably goofy, or even both at the same time. (They're also bright enough to [[RememberWhenYouBlewUpASun immediately resurrect any suns she might

care to blow up]].) * AlysonHannigan has the most adorable CatSmile. * MaryElizabethWinstead is already pretty adorable, but takes it UpToEleven when she smiles. * SharonSmall's smile could power a sun. * [[MadMen Rich Sommer]]. On the show, he looks like a slightly above average, mildly doughy, kind of dorky guy. But when he smiles, well...[[http://yfrog.com/1q7v4cj just look]]. * Male example: at the best of times, SteveCoogan would be described as a rather odd-looking man. Then he smiles, and suddenly he's rather handsome! * Doug Walker is adorable and attractive anyway, but then he smiles genuinely and it makes you feel kinda happy inside. Just take a look at [[http://nostalgiacritic.blip.tv/file/3991454/ Part Three]] of TheNostalgiaCritic's Animaniacs Tribute to see what I mean. * MaggieGyllenhaal has these two big front teeth that only seem to be visible when she smiles. God, is it cute. * JaymaMays looks like she's stifling a laugh, for fear of [[{{Adorkable}} snorting]]. * JohnBarrowman is already a handsome man, but when he smiles, he just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. * Danny Pudi (Abed on Community) has a got a smile that could melt rock. Although you'll almost never see it on the show. * Some people, when they smile, don't just smile with their mouth, but their entire face; ie. MonicaKeena, MelonieDiaz. * [[SummerGlau Summer]] [[http://archive.sci-filondon.com/cutenews/data/upimages/summer_300.jpg Glau]]. * AngelaBettis looks like she's about to let out the [[{{Adorkable}} dorkiest]] laugh imaginable, and then probably act embarassed by it. * This troperette's crush is a male version. He looks good wen he's not smiling, but when he is smiling, I can't help but smile myself. If I'm in private and I think about his smile, I usually {{Squee}}. It just makes him look that much better. * This troper isn't usually one to think this way about politicians, but Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who's currently recovering from an assassination attempt, has got a smile that could light up a room. Fortunately, a giant grin seems to be her default facial expression. Sure, she's a good-looking lady in general, but that big smile and those adorable dimples... even her doctors and nurses are charmed by it. It's no wonder they've taken to calling her "Gorgeous Gabby." * Tennis player Maria Sharapova becomes a '''hundred times''' prettier when she smiles, even just a [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u151eCr02IU/TSFJIimQAxI/AAAAAAAAJPQ/J4UV4x NqW9o/s1600/Maria+Sharapova.jpg little bit]]. * This Troper, after reading this page, promises to smile more. * I think you are all beautiful when you smile. * I saw someone with this a few years ago when I was in college. I was waiting for my Dad to pick me up after having a really rubbish day, and was sat in the foyer next to an old woman who was part of one of the courses for people with learning disabilities. I saw her looking at me and tried to smile at her, despite not at all feeling it. Then she smiled back, and to this day I've never seen a sweeter and more

radiant and genuine smile from anyone. I couldn't help but break out into a proper smile after seeing that, and my day didn't seem nearly so bad anymore by the time my Dad arrived. * when this troper takes pictures it looks like a Slasher Smiles but when she smiles for real she lights up the whole room * This troper's never been told she has a pretty smile, but she ''has'' been told that if she doesn't smile she has a tendency to look homicidal. As a default expression. So, sort of...inverted? * Apparently me. Though I don't consider myself very pretty in any way ~__~ I'm just average =X [[http://img3.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/4d0ddc6e69b6b76491c7d82f85c 326a31308949310_full.jpg not smiling ]][[http://img2.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/9354b1c217781901e13b1d51c 400bb191308949309_full.png smiling ]] ** Oh, you're definitely more than just average. And you're ''definitely'' more than just average when you smile! * EllieGoulding is very pretty, of course, but she's just the cutest thing ''ever'' when she smiles. ---Flash that adorable little smirk as you go back to WhenSheSmiles. <<|TroperTales|>>

WhereDoYouThinkYouAre * This troper was playing ''Dungeons&Dragons'' with five other people one day. Now, there are quite a few different undesirable traits that can manifest in RPGers; one of these is the Historical Accuracy Nazi, prone to complain about any little thing that doesn't correspond to the real-world counterparts of a setting meant to resemble, or sometimes even be noticeably similar to, said real-world culture. So, one player in our group was remarking that the Spartans never would've done this, and the Spartans would have done things like that, and many other such complaints. After the GM had finally had enough of that, he stood up, looked directly at the offending player, and put an end to the complaints with an emphatic declaration of '''[[ThisIsSPARTA "This. Is. NOT! SPARTA!!"]]''' Historical Accuracy Nazi had the kind of stunned silence exhibited by someone who's just been thoroughly pwned; I and the other three players couldn't say anything either, because we nearly pissed ourselves from laughing so hard. * This troper had to deal with African customers who insisted that if they were regular customers, they should get discounts, and back in Africa, they were powerful and rich and should be treated as such. We let that slide, annoying as it was. Then the kicker--because this troper was unmarried, a virgin, and her father owned a lot of land and animals, she was considered a desirable prize to several African men who were regular customers. If they married me, they got the property and everything on it as 'dowry'. And one particular man asked her a total of 48 times, "marry me". While his WIFE and MISTRESS were standing beside him. Note that this troper is African American. And her father, annoyed and seething when he touched her inappropriately, told him "This isn't Africa. This is America. Now get the fuck off my property and don't you ever come back or you'll wish you were a

continent away." ** CrowningMomentOfAwesome and CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming * [[{{Liangnui}} This troper]] has honestly forgotten how many times she told her brother to shut up with the general bitching while on vacation because, "[[{{ThisISSparta}} This isn't America.]] We're in Shanghai/Beijing/etc." * This troper works at [=McDonald's=], and sometimes people come in/through the drive-in, asking for a whopper. I once asked a guest who did this: "Do you know where you are?" ** This troper used to work at a coffee shop that was not Starbucks, despite the delusion of many customers. * In Boston, pedestrians have the right of way. This is because we don't all drive here. Nevertheless, some motorists get very pissy if you have the balls to actually attempt to cross the street. * This troper: "Where do you think you are, some place with an actual economy?" in Reno. * This troper has a RunningGag with his brothers, whereby if someone asks "Why isn't there an X button?" while playing a video game, one of us has to reply "This isn't [[CounterStrike CSS]], boy!". Whether or not X is a function in CounterStrike. * In This Troper's [[ClevelandRocks grand city]] has a varation on this phrase for [[SassyBlackWoman certain]] [[AngryBlackMan civialins]]: "The fuck do you think this is, [[NWordPrivileges nigga?]]" ---Expecting some succinct humour here? Sorry, but this isn't [[{{WhereDoYouThinkYouAre}} Laconic]] ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WhereEverybodyKnowsYourFlame * Real life example. This editor was hired by some gay friends to perform in a burlesque dance at the Propaganda Club in Hong Kong (one of the strongholds of the local gay scene) It was explained to me by these friends that it's fairly hard to get banned from the Propaganda unless you do something really shocking, like having sex in the toilets. They looked genuinely bemused when I tried to explain that a lot of straight guys assume that that sort of thing happens all night every night in gay bars. ** Another real-life counterexample: A somewhat homophobic friend of this editor visited a gay bar, ordered a drink, got kicked out (for being underage), and didn't realize it was a gay bar until someone tried to pick him up as he sat on the curb outside. Unless he was amazingly unobservant, gay bars are more a bit subtler than they are normally portrayed as in fiction. ** This editor is perhaps unobservant. "Hm... there sure are a lot of older lesbians and groups of strapping young men on this street outside this bar... And that rainbow-colored lighted waterfall sure is interesting... Oh well, time to go in." (True story.) ** TruthInTelevision This lipstick lesbian troper stays far away from

lesbian bars. They really are often the biker dyke variety. ** This straight troper walked into a gay cafe in London's Soho and was mid-way through ordering lunch when he twigged it via the lesbian art on the wall and the gay magazines. He wasn't exactly going to leave before he'd eaten and he wasn't homophobic anyway ** A lesbian of this troper's acquaintance estimated that maybe half the patrons at the local gay bar, at any given time, were actually gay or bi. ** The leading gay bar in Finland, Lost And Found has lately been abandoned by the GLBT community, as it has just become an increasingly trendy place for straight people to hang around. *** Sadly, this happens a lot. **** Sadly? [[{{SarcasmMode}} Oh no!]] People are accepting the normality of a non-straight sexual orientation and attempting to integrate: [[{{LargeHam}} THE HORROR!]] ***** It's not always an attempt by non-homophobic individuals to integrate and is sad that we're losing our sacturaries. ****** Sydney's Oxford St is mixed gay and straight bars, and sometimes this (straight male) troper ducks into a gay bar because there's no cover charge and the bars are nice. The gay bars in Sydney cover the full range of this trope, though.... going to the leather bar for a punk show was interesting ** {{Truth In Television}} for the most part with this troper, but once a month at his local is an underwear night, at which the staff dim the lights, set up a cloakroom for clothing and partition off a small area for an orgy. On warm nights a lot of guys just go for it out in the beer garden to the bemusement of bored smokers. God help the poor straight guy who wanders into a bar on that one night, although with a name like the Laird O'Cockpen.. yeah. ** When this troper's ''youth group'' was traveling they decided to have lunch at a very nice restaurant that happened to have a bar. It wasn't until they saw the rainbow cake that any of them figured it out. Fortunately, we're a liberal church, so nobody was offended. * This troper's Chemistry teacher told her class a story once of how he missed a bus and figuring he had some time to kill, went into a bar to take a drink. Only when he actually sat down and looked around did he see a lot of gay porn on the walls. Despite it, he finished his drink as quickly as possible and headed for the exit. To bump into one of the ''students from our school who also comes to his church group''. [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity ensued]]. * This troper, with a group of people taking a class in Scottland, once wandered into a Gay South-western Techno bar/club. Yes. * It took [[DesertDragon me]] a couple years to convince my brother to go with me to a gay bar. His biggest fear was some guy hitting on him, to which I replied, "Guys hardly ever hit on ''me'' when I go there!" * In Barcelona we have a famous gay Club: Arena. The problem with that place is that it's very "AnythingThatMoves". I'd like to know of another Gay Bar where people behave in a more subtle way... * This troper was taken to a gay bar once. He left shortly afterwards, due to it being crammed full of people and very loud music. The only difference between it and a regular city-center bar was it being full of very obviously gay men.

* While traveling through France, I came across a place called "Wolf Bar" in Paris, which (unlike most of these examples as it appears) was very obviously a gay bar from the outside- there were no women anywhere near it, and signs on the outside indicated it catered to some...very specific gay male fetishes. (I didn't go in- 14-year-old girls aren't generally welcome at bars, and definitely not that one) * [[PentiumMMX2 This troper]] has been in a gay bar once. It was actually Mexican restaurant (A pretty good one, too) that happened to have a bar to it...and the bar happened to be a hot spot for gay men. [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity ensued]] when one started hitting on my uncle, while my aunt was sitting next to him. * [[{{bluepenguin}} I]] once went to a gay bar in Tokyo called Dragon Men, where they were playing LadyGaga and... marathon episodes of DragonballZ. It had never occurred to me that the FanYay quotient of that particular show was high enough to warrant a themed bar, but... (The lesbian bar I ended up at later that night was pretty low-key, though, and not immediately recognizable as a lesbian bar aside from the clientele being all female.) ** This sounds like the best bar ever. * It's not even a bar, but the Montrose Counseling Center in Houston (Montrose is Houston's local [[Gayborhood]] and red light district) definitely counts. The place is full of pride flags, various relics of LGBT history, very gay clothing, and a stench of perfume. * This troper has been to a gay bar, and didn't like it much, mostly for the same reason he dislikes regular bars: Too many people, too loud, and people tend to wander off and leave him lost and alone. ** I have a [[DistaffCounterpart counterpart!]] ---Sometimes you wanna go back to WhereEverybodyKnowsYourFlame, and they're always glad you...[[UnEntendre came]]... <<|TroperTales|>>)

WhereItAllBegan * Kindergarten teachers.

WhiteHairedPrettyBoy * [[Tropers/{{LORd}} This troper]] sports the look, and I think I do it justice. Here, have a ShamelessSelfPromotion [[http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4053/omakuva.jpg Shoot]]. ** This troper thinks you [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean are very pretty.]] ** And I think you're squee-inducing awesome looking. With a dash of villain-like droolworthyness. ** [[Tropers/{{Callahan}} Callahan]] approves. ** [[Tropers/{{LordGacek}} Me]] too -- dude, with this look you should be an anime villain. ** [[Tropers/{{aurora}} aurora]] says squee! ** [[Tropers/{{rifflet}} I]] think he ''looks'' like a magnificent bastard. You just get that vibe, y'know? *** Agreed. You look like a hypothetical [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Kaworu/Gendo]] hybrid. And that is awesome.

** Yup, definitely qualified. ** Hot damn! I mean... Er. * Kulture here, and as usual I avert a positive trope by the fact that I'm 18 and going grey. * [[http://www.law.gwu.edu/Faculty/profile.aspx?id=14159 One of]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=769AKS2r0Is my professors.]] He was born with that color hair. Which he flaunts proudly by rocking the ponytail. * Family friends' son's hair went from jet black to snow white between his 17th and 18th birthdays! Doctors found no underlying pathology to worry about, and to this day no one knows why it happened. Guy is about 6-foot-4 and handsome as hell, and boy, do the chicks go gaga over his unusual hair. (He has never even considered dying it.) If you're old enough to remember the "Man From GLAD" TV commercials, that's more or less what he looks like. * [[http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=vampire&order=9&offset=24#/d117p0a This guy.]] * More related to the personality (even though not necessarily boys) : every single cute white doggie this troper knows seems to be made of purest evil. * [[@/{{Joerc45}} This troper]] has found no fewer than 3 white hairs sprouting every couple of weeks. If it starts turning white or grey, I'll just dye it completely. :) * [[@/{{EveryTroperTales}} This troper]] sported this look for quite a while. Considering he's already insanely attractive, this pushed him over into crazy bishounen level. * [[Tropers/MonkeyPhysics I]]'ve been greying since 14 (runs in the family). I'm 22 now and can easily pass for someone in his thirties if I don't shave for a few days. Of course, I'm not particularly pretty... * [[{{Tropers/Nuxx}} I]] have several family members who sport natural white hair and also weren't albinos. My brother's hair was bright white until he was in late teens and then he went and dyed it. The trait seems to have carried on to the next generation as my cousin and his young nephews all have the same distinct white hair.

WhiteKnighting * As much as [[FeoTakahari I'd]] like to consider myself TheShepherd in training, I'll admit I'm probably closer to this. One time someone put up a post in the Trope Repair forums asking for a rename of {{Anvilicious}}, and when he was buried under a deluge of criticism, I was the one fellow who stuck up for him, saying he was probably a new member who had no idea how enshrined that trope name is. Then he admitted he was trolling. Oops. ** Allow this admittedly jaded and cynical troper to teach you something. HumansAreBastards. You should always expect someone to be an asshole, troll or fucking idiot, and never expect any human decency or emotion or logic or sanity. Expecting any of that is a good way to look like an idiot or a moron or just be disappointed. *** Awwww, you just need a hug.

**** That's not true at all. I've met people on forums who were pretty nice and respectful, so there's still hope at the end of the dark tunnel. * This troper tries to be TheShepherd as well, but will occasionally quite viciously white-knight. * This troper is a white knight and doesn't know why...she'll almost always stick up for the underdog, or at least the side not being a jerkass, and will keep supporting that side. ** Just a guess, but maybe it's because you're a decent person? * I know a girl who seems to bring out the WhiteKnighting tendencies in countless people when they first meet her. She seems so [[TheCutie sweet]] [[TheIngenue and]] [[YamatoNadeshiko demure]], and is absolutely ''surrounded'' by [[CasanovaWannabe perverts]], [[OccidentalOtaku weirdos]], and [[CardCarryingVillain selfidentifying]] {{troll}}s. HilarityEnsues when they realize she's the [[CovertPervert worst]] [[YuriFangirl one]] [[LoveableSexManiac there]], and ''very'' capable of taking care of herself. ** Your friend sounds like a [[GenderFlip gender flipped version]] of [[{{Tropers/Joerc45}} me]]. * Can you be a girl and do this? Just recently I spent half an hour defending [[{{Dollhouse}} Dichen Lachman's]] face from a bunch of ignorant [[JerkAss Jerk Asses]]. It's a little disheartening to read "she's ugly" over and over... ** As above, couldn't it just be that you're a nice person? * [[Tropers.NickTheSwing this troper]] is a self admitted White Knight. He loves every minute of it, since it suits his fantasy of being, well, a just knight, defending the weak from the abusive. Though he can take it to KnightTemplar levels...I will White Knight for anyone attacked over the internet. As for the page image, if you are interested in sex with the maidens you rescue, you are not doing your job as a knight the right way. * On the {{Naruto}} "fan"board (most everyone there thinks it sucks at this point) this troper frequents, he can remember several ''very'' clear instances of [[KnightInShiningArmor White Knighting]]. The problem was that the people that the "Protectors of the Underdog" were defending were arguing flat out wrong points alone in a relatively formal debate, and they were the ones who were consistently throwing the first punch in {{Flame War}}s. Moreover, the people being defended and the ''defenders themselves'' were under the impressions that people cannot join arguments with their own opinion agreeing with others'. According to the [[KnightInShiningArmor knights]], anyone who does so is only joining the argument for the sake of gaining popularity by going "yeah, what he said!" Needless to say, the [[KnightInShiningArmor White Knight]] mentality is rather hated at that board, and for good reason. * TheNostalgiaChick gets an awful lot of this. The amount of fans that forget she almost lives on CrossesTheLineTwice comedy and try to protect her from stuff that ''she's written'' (Spooning With Spoony and the abortion reference in Doug's Christmas Special as two examples) or say the ''{{Ferngully}}'' review was woman-bashing is mind-boggling. Also, guys, everyone big on ThatGuyWithTheGlasses has an insane amount of creepy FanDumb - don't act like she has it worst

because she's an attractive woman. * The NationStates discussion forums have more white knights than Camelot could have dreamed of. Any suggestion that women are not CloserToEarth or that [[{{AllMenArePerverts}} men are not red eyed, sharp toothed demons]] will get you incinerated with accusations of "Misogynist", and possibly punished by the administration as well. It's the internet version of the LifeTimeMovieOfTheWeek, UpToEleven. Anyone who doubts that there isn't some truth to the StrawFeminist really ought to check this place out. * White Knighting is personally, this troper's reason for leaving World of Warcraft RP and ultimately, the whole community. I took up the game to enter a world of fantastic wonders, of heroes and villains, of sword-buckling action and cold vengeance. What I found were transvestite Elves, furry fans, Mary Sues and unexplained justification for their actions and power. Not to mention a certain gnome on Moon Guard that said "I was close-minded" for not "accepting" her {{Fanfiction}} of "Skywarp, Thundercracker and Starscream have a baby, with Starscream giving birth (Oh, he's also a stripper) and them raising it together". I, of course, had gone... [[FlatWhat What]]? And, of course, being objective about the whole thing, pointed out discrepancies with her writing style and storyline. She brought in the [[WhiteKnight whole Guild who tore into me, saying I was a bigot (In so many words) and insensitive]]. I left the Guild, and the whole game with one sentence: "When robots can be strippers and male and give birth, I'll be back. Till then, toodles". ---Rush to defend [[KnightInShiningArmor White Knighting]]. ----

WhoaBundy * This troper's cast and crew for ''A Midsummer Night's Dream'', inspired by an actor's attempt to censor himself, started off each show night with "What the Puck!" * During intermissions for a ''Twelfth Night'' production, this troper's cast kept our energy up for the second half by Whoa Bundying with our favorite rehearsal in-joke: "Thrust!" * How about one for TheCrucible? (one show line, spoken sotto voce while huddled) ''We're goin' to Barbados...'' (another show line, screamed at top of lungs with hands in the air) ''It is a whore!'' * Not sure when or how it started, but there's a tradition at [[Tropers/MiniKaylee my]] high school for the techies to close our pre-show meeting with "quack", starting out slowly and quietly, then building up speed and volume at the end.

WholeCostumeReference * Our economy teacher once went to school in black pants, a tan blazer, white shirt and red tie. It was rather weird seing an older man walking around in the [[DeathNote Light Yagami]] outfit.

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WholesomeCrossdresser * [[@/TsundeRay This troper]] has recently wondered what it would be like to dress as the opposite gender. Recently, in a bet he made about his stance on {{Facebook}} quizzes, he said that if he were to take one single quiz by the end of summer that he would (force himself to) {{cosplay}} as an opposite-sex character at an upcoming anime convention. [[spoiler:If he doesn't, he's still leaving the possibility open; hence the "force himself to" clause.]] * This Troper's father used to dress up as a woman every halloween. The only thing wrong with his getup is... he never shaved. * This troper is a male crossdresser. I just love wearing women's clothing sometimes, and I always wear women's underwear. I am also 100% straight, and have a girlfriend who seems delighted with this fact. * This troper didn't realise she was turning into one of these until the day she wore a tailored coat, a man's shirt (a pink shirt, for pete's sake!), a tie, and trouser-cut pants out the door. And had several shopkeepers address her as "mister". She likes it. A lot. (And is not exactly {{bifauxnen}}.) ** ...This troper envies you. My long hair (even when tied back), noticable bustline and tendency to dress in clothing styles that would have been considered masculine in the ''late 19th century'' (or at weddings, admittedly) mean that whether or not I get mistaken for a man tends to be severely variable. Also, Irish males are, for the most part, ''hardly'' dapper. And I admittedly don't usually try to actually pass as male. *** ...do I know either of you two? If not, may I? (Personally, I'm a male who dresses foppishly male, and gets mistaken for female... which is another trope entirely.) **** This troper would be extremely pleased to make your acquaintance. Foppishness is much appreciated. (In addition to the pink shirt debacle, and mild legitimate crossdressing tendencies, she has finally resigned herself to being mistaken for a guy no matter what her hair length is. With short hair, obviously it works out; with long hair, I look like a refugee 1920's sheik. Or possibly Oscar Wilde, depending on how charitable you want to be.) ***** Delighted to meet you, then! - @/SirFrederick * The above troper who barely manages to actually qualify for this trope would, however, like to mention that I was very puzzled by a cashier speaking much more warmly to me ''before'' I thanked her, until figuring out that my voice had [[DroppedABridgetOnHim given me away]] [[FemaleCrossdresser as female.]] * [[@/{{Turtleducks}} This troper]] has a friend who is an absolute {{Bifauxnen}} and wears her dead grandfather's clothes. It's a total turn-on, which has led myself and my girlfriend to tell her we're going to kidnap her and make her our polyamorous lover someday. ** Not if I get her first! *** 'wears her dead grandfather's clothes. It's a total turn-on' That...probably could have been written better.

* I don't try for this, but I fall into it sometimes. I'm either [[MaamShock Ma'am]] or Young Man. Apparently, I also suffer from AttractiveBentGender. Augh! * This troper's highschool had a tradition of "Gender Bender Day," where... yeah. It was a boarding school, and some students were so convincing they nearly got in trouble for being in the wrong (genderrestricted) dorms. * This troper finds that masculine clothing (tailored properly, of course) looks quite a bit better on her than feminine clothing. Being somewhat well-endowed with shoulder length hair means she's never mistaken for a guy, but she is gathering a collection of mens' hats, shirts and neckties. Win or fail? ** Win - shirts just suit some girls. Bring on the gender confusion! * This (female) troper wants to try out dressing like a dude just once (or maybe more than once...). It sounds like fun! Too bad she isn't sure where she'd get the clothes or when she'd wear them. * This male troper sometimes wonders what it would be like to wear a {{meido}} outfit. ** This also male troper does too, in addition to an elegant gothic lolita dress. * This troper's only done it twice in public, but I like it. It's fun. the only problem is going drinking as people would need to see my ID. * [[Tropers/MacPhisto This Troper]] has never crossdressed, but he does harbour a great attraction to boys that do. Anyone looking for love? * [[@/ThisIsATest This]] Troper [[AllLoveIsUnrequited knows a girl]] who has a GeekyTurnOn for [[WholesomeCrossdresser Wholesome Crossdressers]]. She herself dresses like a tomboy [[SheCleansUpNicely (except when she doesn't)]], making her something of a WholesomeCrossdresser herself. However, because this troper [[{{Squick}} could never be]] an AttractiveBentGender, so that will not be something that unites us. * I am eager to dress as a maid. Friends seem eager for me to do it too. ** You're not the only one. Not only has my boyfriend tried repeatedly to get me to dress as one for halloween, but one of my friends [[{{Squee}} Squees]] whenever I mention a desire to. (Despite this, said friend [[TransparentCloset still believes she's asexual.]] Heh, heh, ''bullshit''!) * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]] did this as a Halloween costume for his main character (A male Magician) in {{MapleStory}}; who [[DraggedIntoDrag lost a bet to one of his friends]] (That friend actually being my other character; a female Archer) * This editor knows a girl who makes an amazingly convincing [[{{Naruto}} Sasuke]]. She even wears the spiky hair in real life. * When This Troper was 12 he cross-dressed while staying at his Aunt's * This troper doesn't dress in men's clothes all the time, but she loves wearing suit jackets and ties. She's even considered dressing in a men's suit and going with a female friend to prom if she doesn't get a date, just for fun. Her friends hate when she wears masculine clothes, though. =/ ** I know, right? There is just something so awesome about a good

suit. This troper wishes she could find a properly tailored one somewhere, although she isn't actively trying to pass for a male or anything. As for your friends, sounds like they should mind their own business (not to be perceived as rude or anything, but it is really your choice, don't you think?) * This troper, for an anime convention, roomed with friends of both sexes. One of my female roommates made a male roommate dress in girl clothes. She then offered to do the same to me. Unfortunately for her ''and'' for me, we never got the chance. * [[@/{{Taranis}} This Male Troper]] has been very interested in this for a long time. I often get confused for a female over the phone (or sometimes even in person) by strangers, some figure it out I'm a boy after taking a another look, while others never do realize. It helps that I look much younger than I'm supposed to be (I'm 23 yet look around 17), have a very soft indoor voice and never really been the epitome of masculinity. But I would very much enjoy dressing up like a girl and looking cute, and maybe sexy to someone (boy or girl actually, though I'm not gay I find it amusing to tease people), of course the problem is that I have that I don't think I have the body shape down - I'm not buff or anything but I do have broad shoulders and have an a somewhat noticeable male build. * This male troper has been crossdressing since childhood and enjoys it. I've gone out in public several times and haven't been recognized yet. (Phew, I say.) Several of my friends failed to recognize me last Halloween. I'm even dolled up while writing this. Several of my female friends know and enjoy the opportunity to give me a makeover. They also say I am an example of {{Attractive Bent Gender}}. * This troper's best friend in the world is a MTF transsexual, and she's one of the nicest, most ''wholesome'' people in the world. Really not much else that needs to be said. * This tropers close friend is a crossdressing boy, and an awesome person, if something of a DeadpanSnarker. I also know an actual FtM transexual, who is equally as nice. * I find guy's clothing to be much more comfortable and better looking than womens' clothes, and tend to crossplay (because most of my favorite characters are male). My mother has asked me if I'm "gay". She's not the only one who's confused... * Back when this troper had long hair he'd get mistaken for a woman (which he didn't understand, he's not exactly a [[DudeLooksLikeALady bifauxjo]]). This troper is, however, up for anything at least once, so if he gets some physical-trickery-inclined friends he'll give it a bash. * This troper's friend crossdressed on "Dress as the Opposite Gender Day" during a spirit week at school. He came into anime club dressed in a pink tank top and a skirt. It was mind-scarring. * This troper [[DudeLooksLikeALady looks like a girl anyway]], so he regularly goes out in drag and no one notices. Hooray for high-pitched voices and reasonably masculine boyfriends to add to the deception. * This tropes just sees the more boyish clothes as much more useful than dresses. Granted, her clothes are almost never fancy, because they have to stand being torn, muddy, snowy and last years. The ones she wears are cloth, yet hardy and warm enough to last for ages.

* This troper is a proud {{Wholesome Crossdresser}}, and has gone out in public in drag on a few occasions, happily. I even snagged a date with a cute boy at the Montreal Otakuthon while I was dressed as a purple gothic lolita. * This troper wouldn't mind trying to actually pass as a boy at some point (or twice, or thrice) although her [[MostCommonSuperPower assets]] get in the way a bit. I have been mistaken for a boy on numerous occasions, though, mostly because I sometimes wear baggy and/or masculine clothes. Hasn't happened since I started growing my hair out, though. * This troper used to be a tomboy in elementary school. Many mistook me for a boy. I even tricked some of my new classmates into thinking I ''was'' a boy. I grew out of the phase as I was older, but I can still pass as a boy, if I store my hair up in a cap and dress in a loose shirt in pants. Although, my [[BuxomIsBetter breasts]] tend to get in the way. * This troper happens to have an O.C who crossdresses. His mom used to be a crossdresser,His father used to work with a crossdresser,and [[OuranHighSchoolHostClub His((and His mom's)) cousin((or used to be)) and uncle happen to be crossdressers.]] ** Edit-- I just got my hair cut far shorter. I could pass for a long haired boy... * This troper is genderfluid and biologically female. They often wear "women's" clothing even on days when they feel male, simply because they think it's prettier. * One of my friends has a Japanese-English friend who completely transcends {{Bishonen}} and hurdles straight into ViewerGenderConfusion, as I can attest from pictures I'd seen of him. Well, they had a bet one day over wether the word "flexitarian" is a real word (he was adamantly convinced it isn't), with the friend's friend agreeing that he'd wear a dress and hit on one other man at the mall if he lost. The dictionary was brought out and... well, you probably can guess the rest. Now for the fun part: He may look like a girl even when he's not wearing feminine clothing, but he has a deep, manly voice. So what does he do? Literally skips up to a mall cop, clad in what was possibly the girliest dress my friend could find, and says, "Hey, handsome. How's it going?" ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WhoNamesTheirKidDude Sad to say, these do happen in real life. ---* My first name is Toke. It's an old Nordic name which is an abbreviation for the name "Thorkild", but ALSO can mean "fool" or "idiot". Luckily it's an extremely rare name (about 1000 people worldwide having the name) so almost no-one knows what it means - but I have certainly been bullied at the few occasions people found out. Also, on a general note to the trope, I'm certainly not fond of people giving their children some unique name just for the sake of it being

unique. If it just sounds good to the children, it shouldn't matter the slightest if the name is rare and common. Sadly, my parents just wanted to name me the most unique and rare name they could find and didn't care about anything else. * [[Tropers/{{Alucard}} I]] have a nephew who unfortunately was given the name "Little Dude" by my scatter-brained cousin. Any serious conversations about the kid are made utterly [[{{Narm}} Narmtastic]]. * So, my first name is Gray. Three strikes: One, it's a **** ing ''color''! Two, I was apparently named after a ''lawyer''. And three, it's ''one frickin letter'' away from "gay". WHAT THE HELL WERE MY PARENTS THINKING? ** Gray is not ''that'' bad, especially if you're from an area that spells the color "grey." After all, some people get named after flowers, or even ''months of the year''. And "named after a lawyer"? Plenty of first names have been invented by giving a kid someone else's last name. ''Any''thing that ends with "-son," for example. "Only one frickin' letter away from 'gay'?" So's Gary, which is a perfectly normal name. At least you're not named Richard, because the nickname for that ''is'' "Dick." ** A man named Gray--who in fact went by that name by choice--was for a time [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Davis governor of California]]. Of course, he was seen as having done a bad job, and was recalled and replaced by [[ArnoldSchwarzenegger The Governator]], but that's another matter entirely. *** I knew a guy named Gray when I was at college. And a [[GenderBlenderName dude named Ashley.]] **** At [[Tropers.ReikoKazama Reiko-chan]]'s school, there's a boy (7th or 8th grade, I think) ''and'' a girl (9th grade, and ''in my class'') named Ashley. ** Actually, Ashley was commonly a boys name until around the 1950'2. So maybe his parents are old school. ** This troper, having gray as his favorite color, thinks your name is ''awesome''. ** Your name isn't as bad as you think. There are many names that are also colours (Violet, Scarlet, etc.). Also, what's wrong with lawyers? And I hope you're joking about the third strike. ** This troper's sister was named Majenta, which would have been fine, however our last name is brown. * This troper once had to process a passport application for a newborn whose parents had kindly named him ''Stan The Man''. Not only that but 'The' was his ''middle'' name. * This troper knows a guy that knows a guy named Matthew Tress. If you don't get it, "Matt" is short for "Matthew". ** That should probably go under PunnyName. * A kid of of this troper's sister's friend is named Jupiter. Thankfully it's just his 2nd name, and is first name is an unusual one. * This soon-to-be-unemployed troper is leaving a job as a clerk for the Board of Elections, and you would not believe the names I encounter, verified names of actual, registered voters. For example, just today I learned there were four people registered in my city with the first name "Tsunami", and one woman named "Mother Cross." I did

check, and "Mother" isn't her job (ie, nun or cloister) it's her actual name. Oh, and several women with the first name "Girlee." * This Troper knows a guy named Mary. Who is married to a girl named Mary. ** Mary married Mary? *** They must be quite merry. *** A guy named Mary is not the worst thing I've heard of. There was a marshal of France named Anne. Anne de Montmorency. A man with a nice beard, by the way. His godmother was Anne of Brittany, and she insisted a goddamned lot. *** Whatever would be bad about that? * I've heard some strange ones: --> Three sisters were named Sunny, Stormy, and Windy. --> A woman liked the sound of "fih-MAH-lee", but her daughter's name was spelled Female. --> Twin boys were named after (somewhat mispronounced) flavors of ''Jell-O.'' --> An immigrant Chinese couple decided to name their daughter with what they thought was the most beautiful-sounding word in the English language: Diarrhea. (Collected from ''Reader's Digest'') ** Old jokes, but a national phone directory a few years ago did turn up a few Nosmo Kings... * This troper's newborn second cousin is called Reef. Seriously. ** ...like in the [[MeaningfulName ocean.]] * This troper volunteered in a primary school in a rather rough area of London, where many of the kids had unfortunate "chavvy" names. The worst she encountered was a boy named [[KingArthur Kingarthur]] (sic) - did he have siblings named Lancelot and Guinevere? One of her friends was on the same volunteering scheme at another school, and had a child in the class called "Sequin." What were these parents thinking? * I was friends in high school with a guy who had the first name Boner Jones. Everyone called him B.J. ** Is that really an improvement? * This troper knew a kid whose name was Jack. Doesn't sound too unfortunate - until you met his little sister Jill. * Taken from the blog mentioned on the main page--apparently someone was ''actually'' [[http://www.notwithoutmyhandbag.com/babynames/7.html willing to name their kid]] [[MyImmortal "Enobi"]]. I only pray that they didn't go through with it. * [[{{Tropers/Valbinooo}} I]] have a cousin named Xayden[i think that was how it was spelled], and my name would have been--had I been a boy--Edward VanHalen [last name here]. And my dad jokes about how he wanted to name me EDWINA. Sob. So glad I got Valerie. So, So, So glad. [Guess what my dad's favorite band is?] ** The Monkeys? *** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint I think you mean the]] ''[[ComicallyMissingThePoint Monkees]]''. ** [[CaptainObvious Van Halen]], perhaps? * This troper lists this as the primary reason he should never have children-- twins run in his family, and he swears up and down that if fraternal twins came about, they'd be named Lilith and Lucifer. ...

his brother, on the other hand, wants to name kids [[ArabianNights Scheherazade]] and [[RomeoAndJuliet Juliet]], so there you go. * I have a friend with the last name of Walker. Had she been born a boy, her parents would have named her Luke, middle name Sky. No joke. ** I had an art teacher who actually named their kid this. Of course, it was totally okay because their last name was spelled ''Skye''. * [[Tropers/TheTallOne I]] know someone named Shithead. Pronounced shu-THADE. I also know a L-a, pronounced la-DASH-uh. Yes folks, a phonetic hyphen. I thought both Shithead and L-a were urban legends until I met them. No they are not related. If they were... ** This troper is friends with a teacher. In addition to most of the normal names was one similar to the first above. The only difference was it was pronouced sha-HEED. ** There's also Asshole, pronounced uh-SHOW-lee. * I never met the child, so I have no way of verifying this, but I have a co-worker who, at her old job, met a child named Abcde, pronounced Ab-suh-dee. * This troper's cousin named her child "Nadir". He has hoped from the second he heard the name that none of the child's future classmates ever realizes that the word means "lowest point". That name makes the poor kid seem unwanted. ** It means "rare" in Hebrew. You can tell them that. I met a guy named that who was a prick, and told him (in Hebrew) that I thought people as stupid as him didn't exist, but it turns out they were just rare. And then I got beaten up because of the pun. Puns are bad. ** It's not that bad, meaning wise. It's also the astronomical term for the point in the sky directly across from the zenith (the point overhead). * I know a woman who named three of her children August, April and July. That's okay, those are actual names. She also planned to call her fourth child 'June', but it turned out to be a boy, so now he's stuck with the name 'October'. Poor, poor kid. I also knew an Israeli girl whose first name was 'Lilly'... and her surname is 'Li'. And another one whose full name is 'Agar Tal', which means Vase. ** July is an actual name? *** Introducing yourself would go like this, I imagine: [[SpellMyNamewithAnS "It's "Julie", with a 'y'."]] * Chinese immigrants choose English names for themselves, which can get weird. I heard of one called ''Beethoven Chi''. ** Beethoven's not actually English. Similarly, my Chinese classmate's youngest brother was born in the Netherlands, so his parents wanted to give him a Dutch name which they could also write in their own language. They called him Sean (Shi Ang). Which likewise isn't a Dutch name. * I went to junior high with a kid who went by Rocky Brook. That's not so bad, but it turns out it was a self-chosen nickname. His real first name was ''Babbling.'' * This troper (who was "blessed" with a misspelled German name which nobody seems to know how to pronounce) has threatened more than once to have sons and name them Laertes, Montague, and Capulet. They would, of course, be given the nicknames Larry, Moe, and Curly. * This troper has a second cousin called Lettuce and another one

called Field. My mum wanted to name me Jacobina but thankfully she was talked out of that. ** Seriously? Not Lettice? Her parents are either not very good at researching spelling, or have a horrible, ''cruel'' sense of humor. [[GenderBlenderName Or]] his parents have a horrible, ''very'' cruel sense of humor. *** Or they're ''TokyoMewMew'' fans. *** [[Tropers/KatanaCat I]] wonder if Lettuce (person, not character) happens to know anyone called Pudding, Mint or Strawberry... Mew Mew Lettuce, METAMORPHOSE! * My mother claims to know a man with the surname Schmidt, who changed his first name to Arenew. His precise reasoning for this was that "when everyone arrives in [our state], they ''are new''" (and no, he wouldn't explain further.) But that's not the worst part. The worst part is that he named his son Brown Schmidt. He didn't even have the decency to spell it as Braun. (I've also, under unrelated circumstances, met a fellow with the first name Duke and the last name Hardcastle, but that might go under {{Awesome McCoolname}}.) * My flatmate has, apart from completely normal Swedish names, "Peace" in Vietnamese (Hoah Binh) as a middle-name. ** I get how the Vietnamese + Swedish makes no sense, but on its own, that's a beautiful middle name. * This troper knew a Mileidy (the parents were trying for Milady but didn't know how the hell it was written) * [[{{Tropers/MasterInferno}} This troper]] has a friend who has a cousin named [[{{Stargate SG-1}} Teal'k]] [[{{Disney/Aladdin}} Aladdin]] [[StarTrek Tiberius]] Anderson. Yes, they misspelled Teal'c. * This troper has a friend whose parents named her Wiley after Wile E. Coyote. * While working at a Michelin plant in France, some friends of This Troper's parents considered naming their new daughter Michelle. Last name: Lynn. Fortunately they decided against it. * This Troper narrowly avoided being named after his uncle Peter, which would have made his initials "PP". Thankfully, his parents realized that beforehand and went with Scott instead. ** Is your last name [[SpiderMan Parker]] by any chance? ** Actually, there are a lot of Peters whose last names start with a "P". This Troper's brother for example. No one ever picked up on the PP thing, but considering that his middle name started with a "J" he did get called pajama in elementary school. * [[{{Tropers/Luna87}} This troper's]] real name is [[{{Gone With The Wind}} Ashleigh]]. Had I had a little sister, her name would have been [[{{Tomboyish Name}} Jordan]]. It makes me wonder if my parents really just wanted sons (I do have four brothers). * One of my cousins has a friend whose hippie parents named her Silvery Blue. I also went to school with a Krystal Stoner. * One my my friends had a husband who wanted to name his kids Snakeeyes and Stormshadow. SanityPrevailed. * This Troper was mildly amused by a boy whose surname was 'Hiscock', but knew it wasn't this trope as it was a surname and couldn't be changed. That was when I found out his brother's name is 'Alec'. Say it outloud and you'll see what I mean.

* Before his parents decided on an actual name for him, my stepfather was referred to as Scruffy. * This troper's little brother came home from the hospital with a birth certificate reading "Baby Boy (Last Name)" Fortunately, he has a real name now. * This troper has encountered girls with the names of: Parsley Sauce, Little Mother (it was her first name), Duck Pond (several), Pineapple, Rite Noww... no kidding. * Wow. Reading this page almost makes my name ("Ez") seem normal. Even with my last name ("Day"). No middle. In spite of all the "Are you having an Ez Day?" jokes, I'm actually glad for it. * I have a cousin named Winter. Another cousin named Willow. Also, I once met a woman whose name was, hand-to-God, ''Starshine.'' I'm still not sure if that's a cute name, considering her parents were hippies, or just absurd. * After having read a [[FanFic fanfic]] in which [[HarryPotter Severus]] thinks that [[ItMakesSenseInContext there aren't enough Mildreds in the world]], my best friend tried to convince me to name ''all'' my children Mildred. She was serious. * I know of a kid named Texaz. Combined with a common Swedish surname, that becomes quite awkward. ** I also heard about triplets named Knatte, Fnatte and Tjatte. That's the Swedish names for Huey, Dewey and Louie Duck, except that they sound more ridiculous in Swedish. ''Thankfully'' that is only their middle names. * [[Tropers/SnowSpirit This Troper]] Has a friend that was almosy called Flacko, after a charater or something (so she says) luckly her parents decided agaist it. * I have a friend named Sun Clam, no joke. he says his parents must have been hippies or something...I also know a guy named ABCDE (pronounced ab-sea-dee). * This troper's mother has the misfortune to be named [[TheWeakestLink Anne Robinson]] and now can't tell anyone her name without having that damn catchphrase mentioned. As if "Here's to you, Mrs Robinson" wasn't bad enough... * This troper also once came across the passport of a child whose parents had unfortunately decided to name him "Stan The Man". Yes, his middle name was "The". * My mom, aunt and grandmother literally knew three kids named Lemonjello, Orangejello, and Female. Yeah. * My mom told me of a girl she knew in school. Her last name was Cianci. Her parents, for some insane reason, decided to name her Nancy Anne. String it all together and imagine it being [[ChildrenAreCruel sung endlessly across a playground.]] * This troper is from an area with a lot of (phonetic) Fehmalehs and Malehs. This is due to not knowing what to name the child and letting [[spoiler: the hospital generic name stick. Female and Male]]. * This troper knows someone with the name Gus. Gus Gaydick, same spelling and all. * I have only heard of this person, but there is a person who's name is spelled "La-a". And no, her name's not pronounced "La,a", it's pronounced "LADASHA"!!!

* This troper knew two high school kids by the name of Mama and Papa, who were sister and brother. * My family is actually quite familiar with a guy named Mike Hunt. You'd think he would at least go by Michael or something, but no. * This troper is stuck with the name Felix, which wouldn't be too bad, if my parents hadn't deliberately chosen it as a synonym for [[HaveAGayOldTime gay]]. I tend not to raise that particular translation- "lucky" is less embarrassing, but even without knowing etymologies... put it this way, ''The Entertainer'' is something of a BerserkButton for this troper, as are catfood jokes. To make it worse, my family has a tradition of middle initials (similar to the Harold S Truman example on the main page), although at least I got one of the cool letters. No, I will not share it on the internet, as it (and my given name) are not a particularly common combination. ** All that said, this troper knows what he'd want his first son to be called: Guillaume. Yes, that could come under this trope, but it has so many possible diminutives he could choose to be known by: Guy, Gwil, William, Bill &c. * I once met with somebody who had been named Tangela (TAN-ge-la). I don't think she was young enough to be named after [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tangela_(Pokemon) tan-GLEla]] though. * This troper's old babysitter (and friend) is named Raine Bowe. She (troper) is also friends with two twins named Roxxi and Foxxi. Now, Roxxi wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the twins' last name: Striper. She also knew a boy named Keila. He went by Kai, which is a unisex name. * There was a girl in my class who was stuck with the unfortunate name Arthur. The teasing stopped when she came to a school dressup day in completely self-aware [[FateStayNight Saber]] cosplay. * This troper went to school with a girl whose parents were hippies. While at school, she created a new, "normal-sounding" name for herself and insisted everyone call her by it. We never found out what her real name was, but she had two sisters named Crystal Rainbow and, I am not kidding here, Aurora Borealis. Also, my friend met a girl in her church group whose first name was Patience. Her middle name was Is-AGift-From-God. ''Ouch.'' * This troper's best friend's middle name is "Chalet." As in "ski lodge." * This troper once met a man who was a "victim of circumstance" case. He was the pastor of a church that my college choir visited one year on our annual tour, and his first name was Kermit. When he introduced himself to us, he got all the expected snickers ("Hi-ho!", etc.). He said, "Yeah, yeah, get it all out of your system. I was born long before TheMuppets came out; my parents had no way of knowing there was going to be a frog." Very nice guy, though. ** This other troper has a friend whose grandma is in a similar situation; her name is "[[HaveAGayOldTime Gay]]" * Since I don't particularly give a damn if someone knows my first name as you could probably google my account name and connect it to my full name anyway, my first name is Galen. Technically a perfectly legitimate name with roots dating back thousands of years, with its

awesome pronunciation (GAY-len) I got no end of shit for it for 'years' and yet my parents refuse to acknowledge the fact it might have been better to go with a more common name. * This Troper is not against naming your children after places, that said she feels it can be taken too far. There is a man on the south shore of Massachusetts who has named his two boys Boston and Fenway, and he plans on having at least one more kid, who if a boy will be Charles if a girl will be Garden. I pity them. * A literal example - This troper went to some sort of City Hall (I forget what it actually was, but it was government related) while in scouts, and we asked the guy there the weirdest story for anybody who's walked in with legal reason. His story was "A kid and his mother walked in and he wanted to legally change his name. Well, for whatever reason, he requested his name be changed to "Dude", and his mother thought that was such a ''lovely'' idea." * This Troper's cousin works at a hospital. She told me about several unfortunate baby names she had seen, such as brothers named Tarzan and Tarantula. * This troper's friend has mom and stepdad named Jeff and Tracy. Quite normal, you'd think, except Jeff is his mom and Tracy is his stepdad. * This troper works at a photography studio that does the majority of elementary/high school pictures in the area (and also in other areas, which leads to discussion of which city has the weirdest kid names) and has come across 'normal' names spelled ten different ways, as well as 'Indy Jones' and 'Snow White' (First and last names, in the same class as each other). Another memorable example, which was passed around the entire studio while the poor kids' pictures were in processing: identical twin boys (in the first grade) with long, complicated unique names... which were identical except for one letter, because halfway through Kid 1's name there was an S, and halfway through Kid 2's name the S was a Z instead. * This troper has a culture-difference-induced variation. One of my Swedish classmates here in England is named Fanny. Other Swedes in my class indicate that this is not a terribly unusual or embarrassing name. When I first met her, I had a moment of [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude Who Names Their Kid Fanny]], since in the US 'fanny' refers to the butt. This got even worse when this troper later found out that in England, 'fanny' is fairly rude slang for vagina. (Fanny has applied to English universities not as Fanny Caroline (Caroline being her middle name), but as Caroline Fanny to try and avoid this.) ** In South-Eastern France, Fanny is a relatively common name too. This troper knows several. * "Jessie Blue Law". Can't let a kid grow up and pick her own porn name? * My 6th grade teacher told us that he once had a girl named Vitali in his class, and a boy with the last name Vitale. He joked that if they got married, she'd be Vitali Vitale. * My grandfather's name was Harold Chaim. Not so weird until you find out that his name was changed to Harold when he immigrated to America. His real full name is Chaim Chaim. * My aunt's last name is Ben, and she had twins. I suggest Ben for the boy and Mercedes for the girl ([[DontExplainTheJoke Ben Ben, Mercedes

Ben]]), but luckily for them, I was ignored. * My mother once knew someone named Richard Chop, who always shortened his first name to 'Dick'. Then she told me that he was the doctor that did my dad's vasectomy. Talk about a punny name. * This troper's first name is Summer, which I don't mind, until people think of all the things that rhyme with Summer. I had people still laughing whenever my name was used in a funny sentence. Which happened a lot. * Example: "summer is dying, dying" --charlotte's web I also knew someone named Gaylord Butte. I call that unfortunate. * My grandma had a female cowoker whose name was Molecule. Apparently her parents were physicists. * While walking by the window of a local elementary school, I learned there were parents naming their kids Princess and Adonnys[sic]. * Averted by this troper's wife who wouldn't let him name either of his daughters "[[FinalFantasyX Rikku]]" no matter how hard he pushed for it. * This troper knew a boy in middle school whose name was "Sextus". Yeah, being middle school, wasn't too fun, but he had a decent sense of humor about it. Apparently he has five older siblings named Primus, Secundus, Tertius, Quartus, and Quintus, all Roman names for the first, second, third, etc. sons. I've seen Quartus, and they're a [[GenderBlenderName girl.]] * I can beat everyone on this list: Where my mum works (primary school) there's a kid whose name is.... Sprinkler. * This is pretty tame compared to a lot of names on this list, but there was a girl in my eighth grade class named Ellish. Not so bad, but it was pronounced Eye-lish, and the teachers called her Eyelash for the first few weeks because they couldn't seem to remember her name. ** There was also a guy in that class named Dulaney who went by Tripper. * This Troper's very pregnant older sister declared that she was naming her son Anal (A-nahl) and insisted for several weeks before she was talked out of it and named the baby Bruce. * This Troper knows a guy called Chris. Chris Peacock. Say it out loud and you'll get it. Thankfully, his parents chose Chris over Drew. ---That's your name? Seriously? WhoNamesTheirKidDude? ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WhoWantsToLiveForever * Though not all are unhappy, [[CTrombley This Troper]] knows several elderly people who out-lived all their local friends, and live on the opposite side of the world of their old friends. Unfortunately, that you're gonna die eventually doesn't necessarily mean that you go out with your friends. * If you assume the theories of universal entropy and the big crunch are true, then millions of years floating in completely empty space,

eternally suffocating, only to to be eventually crushed into a singularity sound like a very hard price to be for a (relatively) short amount of extra time doing things you enjoy. But you also have forever to get used to it. ** That's if you're lucky. If there's no Big Crunch, all you get is an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe eternally expanding universe]]. By the time all protons have evaporated in ten thousand million million million million million million years' time, you might be getting a bit bored. ** One advantage to being immortal if the eternally expanding universe is true is that according to one wacky theory that given enough time, say a googol (that's 1x10^100) years of waiting and the now vast empty universe might humor us immortals and spit up another big bang. So we immortals get to live a universal lifetime all over again... *** The universe will (might, could) only do that if it's ''empty'' -no massive particles. Floating immortal astronauts would screw that all up. ** On the other hand, immortality will likely break the second law of thermodynamics. If you try to starve yourself, where does the energy come from to keep you functional? *** Zero-point energy. **** Besides being impossible to harvest, it's a fairly small amount of energy. *** This is the most serious argument for "no afterlife" too. However, people with opposite views are quick to point out that the big bang itself screws with rules of thermodynamics ( a universe appearing in a setting where the opposite - stuff falling apart and energy dispersing, is the norm) *** Also, only if you assume that the afterlife is a physical life '''in the same physical universe''' as this one! If it's wholly other, then talk about entropy and the eventual death of '''this''' universe is irrelevant. **** Only if you assume a closed system. We can only speculate what existed before the initial expansion, but that the expansion itself occurred is based on very solid evidence and observation. **** There is only one universe by definition. The only question is how accurate our understanding of the laws of physics is. *** This prospect is discussed in the book "The Last Five Minutes," where it is postulated that if a conscious entity were able to become an Ascended Energy Being, said consciousness would be able to skew its own sense of time before the inevitable end and enjoy a virtual immortality. If you can't, you're screwed, because a physical body would be destroyed long before the end, no matter what kind of longevity you've got. **** Unfortunately, there's a certain minimum amount of entropy required to erase a bit of memory. Eventually, you'd run out of useful energy. ** This troper thought up another plan. All you have to do is build a machine that traverses dimensions, and go to a dimension that isn't so close to dying. *** ...Assuming that alternate dimensions even exist. *** [[YouKeepUsingThatWord Why would it matter which way you face?]]

** It is reasonable to expect that, unless an immortal being has severe memory problems, it will become {{Sufficiently Advanced| Alien}} long before the end of the universe, and would be able to make its own. Or at least go back in time to stay in a living universe. * [[@/SgtFrog1 I]] had a lengthy discussion on this subject with my roommate a while ago. I think that perfect immortality would be awesome for a few years, but then...I would soon grow distant and lose my grip on reality. My roommate, on the other hand, is already half AxeCrazy, so he'd do all the crazy stunts you could think of: he'd join the FightClub, do some stunt work, go skydiving and other extreme sports, all that. And in 500 years or so when he's had his fun? He would learn. He would attempt to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence by becoming the most supremely knowledgeable person on the planet. * Seriously, this wouldn't be too much of a problem for me. [[DrMcNinja Do you know how many degrees]] I could get? Seriously, with the ever expanding sphere of human knowledge, I don't think we'll run out of stuff to learn about. ** Oh, you will. There's only 26^1000000 different books that can be written in one thousand pages with one thousand letters to the page. Heck, there's only (10^80)! ways to arrange all the particles of the universe. You'd run out at an infinitesimal fraction of your lifespan. * In the planning of [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} this troper]]'s fiction, this trope usually is why immortality (even with eternal youth) is a curse [[{{DisproportionateRetribution}} for some slight to]] a GodOfEvil or sufficiently powerful EldritchAbomination, [[{{SinsOfOurFathers}} or possibly on the offspring of such a person]]. Said person, if good-aligned, usually dates back to Dark Age Viking era or some such a period, or if evil, may date back even further, to Egypt, Sumeria or (depending on the setting having those myths in the background) even ''Atlantis''. The evil immortals usually wish to TakeOverTheWorld using [[{{EvilSorceror}} ancient magic]] [[{{EmperorScientist}} and forgotten science]], using a few tricks to disguise themselves or go unnoticed with [[{{AncientConspiracy}} their followers both immortal and mortal]] - whereas good immortals usually are either trying to stop the evil immortals and perhaps [[{{DeathSeeker}} seek a get-out clause for their immortality in doing so]]...at least, that's the story [[{{Tropers/Crion87}} this troper]] is planning [[{{Vaporware}} someday]]... * In the stories [[{{Tropers/LOAD}} this troper]] is writing, one of the characters, a dragon goddess makes a deal with Death to live forever. Realizing this trope, she adds an escape clause, suicide. What she didn't know at the time was that, because of her title and the way the spirits work, she can't kill herself. This wouldn't be so bad if her mate didn't die and she didn't have an unfortunate habit of befriending humans. Even before gaining immortality she fell into a MayflyDecemberRomance issue with a human she met when she was eighteen, who was the same age as her. Since dragons age slower than humans, she's more or less a toddler or a young child while he's nearly an adult, preventing it from ever becoming more than a friendship. He lives long enough to see her lay her first clutch of eggs then passes away quietly as they take one last flight together. She'll spend the rest of eternity wishing they had met after she had

stopped being a 'small(age wise) dragon.'

WhoWritesThisCrap * This troper remembers a time when ''they'' were the one writing said crap. I'm hoping to become a writer one day and had just finished my first story. Before I could send it to the publishers I took the time to read it over and was surprised that I had no fucking idea what was going on in my own story. * This is the reaction from [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi this tropette]] towards anything serious without a happy ending. What the f**k is wrong with happy endings? Nothing! DownerEndings are only good for really funny stuff like some episodes of ''RenAndStimpy'' or ''BillyAndMandy'' or something. Those who disagree with me are going to get slapped upside the head. ** Thank you. ** Because they rarely happen in real life? *** Hence ''fiction''. If you want real life, go look outside. ** So, basically, what you're saying is... If its a serious book, with serious problems, it should always have a happy ending? What if many of the protagonists friends and allies die? Should he/she still get a happy ending even though so many of his/her companions and loved ones are DEAD? I think an ending that compliments the overall tone of the work...within reason. *** No, but a BittersweetEnding would've been better... ** [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi My]] reaction to the "Vikings and Beekeepers" sketch from ''{{SCTV}}'', but I actually enjoyed it. * Happened in [[Tropers/{{Durendal}} this troper]]'s camp play, where one of the actresses, fed up by the rather [[{{Narm}} narmy]] dialogue, asked the director, "Who on earth wrote this?" This actress was the only one of the cast who did not know that the director was also the playwright. * This troper invoked this trope word for word after writing a parody of B-movie plots. * This troper's class is in the middle of the famed Greek Mythology unit, and we all had to do presentations on the god or goddess of our choice. During my presentation on Athena, I had to pause for a minute to appreciate just how messed up everything was, and I turned to my teacher and muttered, "Who ''writes'' all this?" She thought it was hilarious. * This troper regularly has flashbacks to his previous work (long since wiped from my computer), usually with the response "My God, I actually wrote that?!" ---What idiot wrote [[WhoWritesThisCrap this?]] ----

WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes We're all afraid of something, or know somebody who is. List your examples here. ---* This [[Tropers.CeliaNulett troper]] has agnosiophobia, or the fear of not knowing. (If you're a psychologist or have any inclination to memorizing phobias, you'll notice that's not a real phobia. It's derived from gnosiophobia, the fear of knowing). This troper is thirteen years old and just had a week of testing. It all went well, except for my Latin test. The thing is, she had forgotten to revise for the last page (Roman beliefs on life after death). Most people would be worried, but she got so scared of not knowing (to the point she studied for the page after the test) what the answer was, she burst into tears. This is a person who's usually pretty confident with tests. It also is the stem for her fear of the dark, which means she has a ritual to follow every night before going to bed and even then is still terrified. * I'll be the first to admit that my fear of bugs is more than a bit irrational. It's also a a pretty major problem since bugs tend get into your house despite all efforts to keep them out down here, especially in the extreme weather. So if I see one I usually just get someone else to kill/dispose of it. It was pretty bad, but it only [[ItGotWorse got]] [[UpToEleven worse]] after I woke up one morning to find one crawling on my face. [[{{Understatement}} I didn't take it well. ]] * [[Tropers.ReikoKazama *takes deep breath*]] [[MotorMouth Needles snakes spiders heights well okay not really heights unless I'm really really high up and stuff losing as in losing at video games like when I'm about to lose a match in a fighting game I just freak out and mash buttons like crazy anything to get back at the opponent and win the match anything that can be considered Nightmare Fuel like Eldritch Abominations and stuff loud noises like when the room is really quiet and someone comes outta nowhere and puts like some music on or something and I sure like to say and stuff and or something a lot don't I falling like from a really high place see heights horror movies which are probably meant to scare you 'cuz that's like the whole point of them and stuff lava magma volcanoes but only if they're in video games and stuff like if they're like lethal to my character the pre-Jin boss in Tekken 6 what was her name again oh yeah NANCYMI847J]] [[OverlyLongGag that thing falls right into Uncanny Valley plus it's like That One Mini-Boss except it's not a mini-boss it's just a random boss that doesn't count towards or against you like whether you win or lose you still go on to face Jin oh and speaking of Tekken Azazel from 6 Jinpachi from 5 Ogre from 3 Unknown from Tag Tournament she is the epitome of Uncanny Valley Girl Babos and Osoe from Pokemon Quartz no I haven't played it I just read through a screenshot Let's Play of it on a site called The Let's Play Archive also Nrvnqsr Chaos from Tsukihime and again read through screenshot LP on LP Archive blah blah blah you know the drill Wallachia or Warachia or however the]] [[SailorMoonAbridged *honk*]] [[OverlyLongGag you spell it from Melty Blood yeah he is really really really creepy Nightmare from the Soul series any kind of ghost Pokemon or real and I

can't think of anything else that scares me really wow this entry is getting really long isn't it I think I'll go watch the rest of the SMA bloopers now.]] ** ...Do you know what a full stop is? ** Not if the troper doesn't know British English. *** ...*{{headdesk}}* * This Troper has a petrifying and nigh irra-- well, perfectly rational fear of lava, magma, volcanoes, and in general, all things molten, red, white, or in any other way visibly hot. The irrational bit is I've never actually been around any of the above. But it is to the point where indications of lava on TV or in [[{{LethalLavaLand}} video games]], no matter how ridiculous and irrational these portrayals often are. It is to the point where intentionally terrifying situations will not scare me, but the level in the volcano or the scene with the blacksmith will. This is rather compounded by the fact that I like playing with fire.... * I have an incredibly irrational fear of clowns, but they seem to always flock to me anyway. For instance, as a child I was chosen as a volunteer by a clown, I was forced into going to a circus where the clowns were performing right in front of me and this Halloween,while in the college library, a girl dressed as a clown sat next to me. Joy. ** [[MonsterClown Trust me,]] [[UncannyValley being afraid of clowns]] isn't irrational. * [[@/{{SharPhoe}} This troper]] is deathly afraid of any kind of insect that's larger than my fingernail, but it's mainly spiders. I went on a trip to the zoo with a friend one time, and he accidentally made me turn around look one of those huge African tarantulas in the face. I seriously think that I nearly went into cardiac arrest... * This troper's sister's friend is afraid of dogs and cats. She loves rabbits, though. I suppose it would be cruel to show her MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail... * This troper has always found dogs to be intimidating, well except the tiny ones that I just want to drop kick. ** This troper suffered from a dog phobia for fifteen years that was so bad that I jumped around from three psychologists, most of whom said it was incurable. I couldn't look at a picture of them or hear keys jingling (I would think it was a dog chain) without getting a panic attack (General Anxiety Disorder didn't help much either...XP). It took three years of therapy to be able to sit in a room with an asleep dog on a leash, and now even though I'm "cured" I still see dogs when out of shadows in dark rooms, can't sit through Batman Begins (or anything else about fear) without having a panic attack and I have to remind myself I'm not afraid if I see a dog. (Makes a great college app essay though...) * This troper doesn't like darkness -- he's gotten better, but when he's alone/slash everyone's sleeping, he dares not look out a dark window for fear of SOMETHING looking back... ** This troper is the same way. Once, she ''pinned a bedsheet over the window'' after thinking that she'd seen the silhouette of someone looking in at her. ** STOP BEING ME! ** This troper also has the same fear but must compulsively look out

the window (and in mirrors) to make sure nothing is looking back before being able to sleep. *** Same here. This troper is freaked out by absolute silence as well as the dark. **** This troper has hypersensitive hearing, as well as the above, and is allergic to most sleep meds. Needless to say I have insomnia big time. **** This troper too. Darkness just freaks him out. I always feared the dark, and because I was afraid that something would attack me in my sleep, like I would be fed upon by a vampire and [[FateWorseThanDeath never be able to go outside again, as well as being immortal.]] I always slept with a big blanket over me, even in the summer. The one time I took the blanket off? Queue supernatural encounter that sounded like a frightening redo of the LostTapes episode Death Raptor where they got everything right, and more horrifying. Outside my window sat the f* cking OWLMAN. Red eyes, ears, and talons. He made me too afraid to ever sleep without the blanket again. I was unsure if it was a dream, since I could remember waking up and seeing him. Also worth mentioning are the dreams about Keith, a StalkerWithACrush taken to absolutely terrifying levels, and a dream about cat creatures out for blood. And, in the most recent years, while trying to walk home from Hayward to my home in Union City, I got delusional from having not enough water. I ended up having a nasty [[MindScrew "encounter"]] with the evil tentacle lolita aka [[{{Claymore}} Riful]]. It was very dark out, in fact, it was the darkest day in the year. **** This troper is the same way, she is absolutly terrified of the dark, mostly it's the idea that something could be watching her and she's never be able to see it. ** I've always been the same way, but I can manage with it being dark in someplace little and familiar, like my apartment. When I have to house-sit for my folks at their farmhouse way out in the country, which I know to be haunted, I'll stay up until dawn just to avoid having to sleep all alone in the dark there. And I don't make eye contact with the windows after sundown. Not that sitting up listening to the dining room chairs move by themselves downstairs and thinking about how I don't know that there's ''not'' someone/something hiding in or trying to get inside by one of the rooms I can't see, but... *** Now I'm too freaked out to sleep! ** I, too used to be afraid of dark. Nowadays, i get uneasy when it's silent. If i can hear any noise, such as engine noises, soft footsteps or a distinct sound of mechanical tinkering, i'm fine. But only to hear my own footsteps, that throws me to self-defence mode. Oddly enough, if it's bright, i can even listen to static and find it comforting. And that's what those who have seen The Ring find to be [[NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel.]] * [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi I]] developed arachnophobia when I was very young. While I was about to touch a spiderweb, a wasp came up and stung me on the arm. You could say that it's a two-fer phobia realization for both spiders and, to a greater extent, wasps. Another thing, I don't normally have a FearOfThunder, but when it's time for bed, that's another story. But my greatest fear out of the several

that I've got, is EARWIGS. [[ThisIsSPARTA I. HATE. EARWIGS.]] * Knives, dear lord, knives. I never used to have this fear until my OCD came out of its dormant state a couple years ago and latched onto it big time. If I see one in the dish drain I HAVE to put it away in a drawer. I'm fine about cooking, but after the food preparation is over I can't stand the sight of a knife, the bigger the scarier. Also, when I was a little kid I was absolutely terrified of men with beards (including Santaor rather, especially Santa) since they looked like they could eat me. Another weird hair-related phobia I had was that in second grade, I had convinced myself that rat tails, those weird little braided pieces of hair, were a disease. I saw a couple boys who had them, and I would run away from them every time I saw them so that I didn't "catch the rat tail." * This troper does not like bees and wasps. At all. Especially the bigger ones. Big flying bugs in general are not high on this troper's fave list either, though most of them don't elicit the desire to get out of the room or at least keep a goddamn eye on them that the bees and wasps do. Especially the wasps, as they're considerably meaner than bees when they're pissed. Also being ''really high up'' somewhere, especially if there is ''any chance'' that he might fall, makes this troper a bit queasy, though he has little problem with flying. This troper blames a trip up to the top of the Washington Monument during a class trip to DC as a kid for getting that one started. And he has an aunt who's not too fond of spiders. This troper has twin cousins, and when we watched the Shelob sequence of Return of the King, the point where the big frigging spider was following Frodo ''silently from above'' was named as the point where the aunt in question would start really freaking out. ** This troper was in a bee swarm of at twelve, and developed a fear of them even though she hadn't been stung. This year on a holiday in Europe she wanted to climb to the top of a hill but there were flowers everywhere and heaps of bees. Not wanting to let her fear stop her she put on a long-sleeved jacket and continued. Then, just as she was about to go down, she realised the bees were about ''three times'' the size of the ones back home... Barely contained the FreakOut. ** This troper feels the fear of wasps and bees is entirely rational, having been stung by both on multiple occasions, but is freaked out far more than any sane person should be by dragonflies and particularly large moths. The moth one can be traced to an incident in which said troper was attacked by a large black moth while in the shower ([[BlindWithoutEm and therefore at a serious disadvantage]]) leading to her running out of the bathroom (thankfully managing to grab a towel on the way out) squealing and dripping shampoo suds everywhere and insisting that someone go kill whatever it was. The designated bug killer coming back and saying "that thing was the size of f*** ing bat" didn't help her fears much, even while it did explain the sheer ''mass'' of the thing she'd felt hit her face. *** Sympathy. This troper also dislikes large moths a great deal, though she's less Mottephobic (ha!) now than she used to be. She figured it was probably a good idea to get over her fears since she has such an aversion to killing things which are smaller than her and relatively defenceless, really. Creepy as hell, but defenceless...

''It's more afraid of you than you are of it, it's more afraid of you than you are of it it's more afraid of you...'' *** Jamaica is the home of ridiculously large bugs. That moth thing, in my opinion, is totally rational, in my book. They even ''call'' moths "bats" in Jamaica. ** I am also terrified of bees, wasps and any stinging bug. Also, yellow jackets. If you don't know why I didn't put yellow jackets in with the stinging insects, it's because while bees thankfully die after one sting, yellow jackets BITE YOU. Somehow the fact that I haven't ever been attacked by any them just makes them scarier, since I don't know just how painful they are. I'm so terrified of them that I've already imagined the ideal punishment for anyone who intentionally causes someone else to get stung just for fun. Knife stabs to the exact same places where the victim was stung. *** Same here. And also Scorpions and red ants. The often feature as Monster Of The Week in most of my nightmares. ** Bees and stinging insects seem pretty common on the list. Much like needles, [[@/DokEnkephalin this troper]] also used to be pretty casual about them until one event; getting a bumble-bee stuck in his sweater, where it rapidly and repeatedly stung around the small of his back. ** I've never been stung, but that doesn't stop the thought of flying stinging insects from turning into {{Squick}}. Any sort of buzzing sound will make me flinch, as long as it's a distinctively an insect buzz. ** It's good to know I'm not alone in my fears. It's called apiphobia, by the way. ** This troper doesn't mind bees but finds wasps uniquely terrifying. The Griffon rollercoaster at Busch Gardens carries you 205ft above the ground before dropping you like a stone at up to 71mph; as this troper's car paused just before the drop, she noticed a nearby wasp and started mentally urging the ride to get moving again, because being close to a wasp was a lot more frightening than the precipice ahead. ** I have a severe enough phobia of wasps that I just freeze and can't focus on anything else if one comes within about a yard of me, and I start to shake and cry when it goes away. When I was young, I went an entire weekend at Girl Scout camp without eating anything because the picnic shelter where they fed us was too full of yellow jackets and I wouldn't go anywhere near it. I've sprained an ankle trying to run from a hornet that I ticked off while climbing around on some rocks at a lakeshore. At another park I nearly fell into a thirty-foot-deep river gorge because I tripped over some tree roots on the rim trail, thought I landed on an underground wasp nest when I saw a wasp and heard a heavy cargo jet coming in to land at the Air Force Base near by just after I fell, and proceeded to panic and fall all over myself trying to get back up and get away from the OMG BEEZ. When my sister ran over a nest of yellow jackets and they came inside on her clothes she wasn't too happy, but I was the one curled up in the bathtub sobbing in terror because there were ''bees in the house'' now. The weird thing is that there's no ''reason'' for me to be that scared of them. The one and only time I've ever been stung was because I went into Complete Meltdown Mode when one landed on me at a picnic. It's

apparently just something I was born with, unreasoning Defcon 1-level terror of wasps. And real bees don't bother me at all. I actually feel rather bad for the poor disappearing honeybees, and for the carpenter bees in the mailbox post who I soaked with RAID before I read on TheOtherWiki that they're harmless. ** This troper used to have an irrational fear of bees and wasps partially fuelled by the fact that her mother was allergic to them and she had no idea if she was. Then one day she accidentally stepped near a wasp nest and got stung, and found out she wasn't allergic and it wasn't as unknowably horrible as she feared. She now can sit under a flowering tree full of the biggest bees she's ever seen and remark on how cute and fuzzy they are. She's still wary of them though, and freaks out when she hears something buzzing near her head because she's afraid it's a bee in her hair. * This troper used to play D&D with a guy who is utterly terrified of spiders, regardless of size. Even if they're safely contained, he would run away. ** Let me guess: you wound up playing ''Queen of the Demonweb Pits'' at some point, right? *** We only played the Age of Worms adventure path; I just happen to have cellar and wolf spiders chilling in my basement. The biggest ones I've ever caught were just over an inch long overall. ** This troper is terrified of spiders, although she is able to stand spiders smaller than her pinky toenail within 2 feet on her, and will put up with only slightly larger spiders in her room as long as they stay on the ceiling away from her. However, close-up pictures and much, much larger spiders get her very squeamish, regardless of whether they're contained or not. Mind you, she has many other fears to add to that, but the big one she's willing to admit to is spiders. ** So afraid, I removed the GiantSpider image because I was gonna have nightmares anyway, so why should anyone else? Sort of a HeroicSacrifice for my fellow arachnophobic tropers. *** This troper thanks you wholeheartedly for that, as I have a horrible case of arachnophobia. Also, write me up for fear of being alone with my thoughts in the dark, all sorts of creepy-crawly things, needles and also heights. Throw in fear of deep water as well, for good measure. (Swims like a rock.) *** This troper would also like to thank you, but would now also like to point out that the BANNER ADS for that page . . . I'm sure you can guess. I was ''eating'' . . . **** Adblock. Greatest invention in the history of the internet. **** I love irony. I'm not exactly the biggest fan of spiders, but I just can't help but absolutely LOVE the irony. ** This troper's arachnophobia is so extreme that one of her former (now dearly departed) cats was trained to kill them. Happened by accident -- she loved chasing bugs and quickly learned that if mommy was shrieking like the smoke detector and running out of a room, there was probably something fun in there... but: clearly one of the ''best cats ever''. Almost broke her heart the day that she wasn't allowed to go after the one that was 2 inches across and ''furry'', the human deciding it was safer to drown it with hairspray instead. (Hey, it's what was THERE, okay? And unsettlingly enough it worked faster than

bug spray usually does.) ** This troper did not use to be an arachnophobe. Shelob's Lair from Lord of the Rings (and maybe that one time she accidently leaned on the side of a wooden booth that she later noticed was ''covered'' in them) changed that. She can still squash the small ones but anything bigger than one of her fingernails... she won't go near. She isn't particularly fond of wasps or cockroaches either (having been stung by the former-while in the shower too, ugh-and encountering three-inch ''flying'' versions of the latter.) *** This is one fear this troper has never quite gotten. She's the one who has to pick up these great bg things (usually bare handed) while her classmates are shrieking. There are an unusually large number of spiders in that study room... *** Trust this arachnophobic troper can assure you that it doesn't make any sense to us either. It's pretty much an instinctive reaction, and it really sucks. Especially listening to the people who refuse to believe that we're not just being wimps and that it's a legitimate, irrational phobia! I hate dealing with those people. ** This troper's sister will hypocritically mock his dislike of any creature with more than 4 legs and then go on to scream at the sight of a spider and demand that he kills it for her. Fortunately his fear of spiders is of the CRUSH! KILL! DESTROY! kind rather than the paralyzing type. Except for jumping spiders, those are an odd exception due to their {{ugly cute}} status and lack of tendency to crawl onto humans. ** This troper used to run screaming from the room if there was a spider bigger than her thumbnail in it (oddly enough daddy-long-legs spiders don't count to this troper) and beg her parents to take it outside- I hate the thought of killing them even if they do scare me. Nowadays, I'm okay so long as I don't have to touch them. I also would like to take the previous troper's statement further and say that jumping spiders are freaking adorable! ** Spiders are not this troper's friends. Sure, some species he can tolerate if they don't move, but the thought of an ''animated'' spider is to terrible to bare. There's something horribly unnatural about the movement of a spiders legs. I can no longer kill them after discovering once that spiders often spasm after death, causing their undead legs to do things that no mortal should witness. The worse thing is a recurring nightmare where I wake up completely paralysed while spiders crawl out of my pillow case. * Fire makes [[@/{{Cameoflage}} this troper]] nervous as hell, although most of the time this only manifests itself as excessive caution. (I'm very glad I live in a society that has advanced beyond having its primary source of light after sunset be to set something on fire.) ** [[@/GwenStacyWannabe This troper]] too - it's better now. When she was little you couldn't have her in the same room with ''birthday candles.'' Also, until seventh grade, she had an irrational fear of wind due to being subjected to stories about tornadoes which resembled scary campfire stories. Now she has an odd mix of enoclophobia (fear of crowds) and agoraphobia (fear of large, open spaces). Oh, and [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Azula]]-phobia...but let's not go into that.

*** Fire is one of the only things that scares me. ** What? I'm a scout, and I really ''love'' a good campfire. Are you scared of that too? ** This editor is also afraid of fire, though it's tempered since I was little ... But yes, I am also very nervous around campfires, more's the pity: It makes toasting marshmallows a bit difficult. * This troper has a thing about heights, to the point of flat-out refusing to go up ladders that look unstable. Especially one time at work on top of a ladder, pulling heavy boxes of cable off shelves above head height. Shudder. * This troper also has a thing about heights and it gets worse as she gets older, something she apparently gets from her mother. This troper is also terrified of all insects and spiders as well as Willem Dafoe and Christopher Walken. She does not fear snakes and/or rats (and is actually fond of them), however, and those are two things her mother is very afraid of. ** Said troper accidentally turned her younger sister (who was then about five years old) into a pyrophobe when she unwittingly set a section of the local newspaper on fire by unknowingly letting it rest on a candle her mother had set in the middle of the kitchen table. And then did [[WhatAnIdiot the same thing a couple of days later]] with the top of a cardboard box she was opening. Said troper's sister is now eleven years old and still raises Cain when anyone takes something out of the oven. *** This same troper, her younger brother, and her younger sister all had a terrible fear of [[NightmareFuel clowns and those giant cartoon animals found at theme parks]] when they were small children. They're not afraid anymore, though said troper prefers to keep clowns at a distance. [[NightmareFuelUnleaded Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker]] did not help things. ** This troper also knows someone who has an irrational fear of worms and therefore hates to go outside while it's raining or right after it has rained. * This troper has not quite a phobia but a "healthy respect" for snakes. Why? Because when he was a young-un, he had one about 2 inches away from his face ''hiss'' at him (and he lives in Australia, land of EverythingTryingToKillYou). Of course, this story becomes far less impressive when he points out the snake in question turned out to be a Green Tree Snake, and hissing was about all it ''could'' do. It probably spent the rest of its life with a "healthy respect" for children... ** So this troper assumes you moved away before it had time to pistol whip you mercilessly, as most "harmless" Australian animals do... *** [[MadeOfWin Um.]] * This troper has an irrational fear of crabs, and once almost crushed her mother against the side of a boat on a sealife watch while trying to get away from one. Not little ones like hermit crabs, mind you, but once they get bigger than her hand she starts to panic. Considering that she's usually level headed this is quite an odd phobia that she's never quite figured out. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_crab Coconut Crab]], however, [[http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/46447/ completely]]

[[http://lh4.ggpht.com/abramsv/SB1mpido4TI/AAAAAAAAQIw/NCGymSYdQW0/s80 0/coconut-crab-2.jpg justifies]] her fear. ** You ''really'' wouldn't have liked [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampage_%28Transformers%29#Beast_Wars this guy]]. ** Glad I'm not alone. I can't stand crabs either, although I'm even a little freaked out by the little ones - probably because they can hide in so many places. * This troper was pleasantly surprised to learn that his squeamish fear is a trope known as EyeScream. (Yes, he has seen The Dark Knight, and he loved it.) ** So now that makes two of us. * This troper is terrified of anything that could result in crashing, which includes doing anything that involves going fast or downhill(except roller coasters) and is very unhelpful when skiing because this troper is ''capable'' of skiing down black diamonds and has been for years, but can't do it without freaking out and sometimes crying(which resulted in significant and humiliating demotions in ski school). It is all attributed to a bike crash when this troper was 9, which required 21 stitches in this troper's leg. * This troper is scared stiff of any animal that's stuffed, preserved, pinned into drawers, or whatever. Chalk it up to a totally irrational fear that it'll suddenly come alive and attack. Doesn't matter whether the corpses are real or just amazingly lifelike models, it's still creepy. * My older brother is 18 years old, 5'11", and plays rugby. But he still has to have Mom kill spiders for him. Of course, this troper is irrationally afraid of pigeons, so I can't talk... ** With this troper, it's more an intense, passionate hatred, but the pigeon thing is completely understood. ** This troper is also frightened of pigeons. They're all diseased, and they're everywhere, and sometimes they flap around right near me... * [[{{Saw}} Not scared of anything.]] [[{{Saw}} Nope.]] [[PoeticSerialKiller That would just be stupid.]] [[{{Saw}} Thank god there aren't lifelike puppets up in retro comic and manga shops.]] [[NightmareFuelUnleaded That would be seriously creepy.]] * This troper can handle knitting needles, sewing needles, thumbtacks, pins, and throwing needles (a kind of tiny missile weapon) without incident, but will NOT touch a hypodermic needle with a ten-foot pole. ** Same here. As this troper is a medical student, he foresees some problems in the future. ** This troper (a pre-veterinary student) can and will cheerfully jab a hypo into just about any vertebrate creature you care to name, but has a panic attack at even the suggestion of one breaking her own skin. Tattoos and piercings, even ears, are completely out of the question. She also has a fear of running on tracks or for long distances (with good reason, as every time she's tried she's ended up choking and gasping for breath). ** Lucky you. This troper has a problem with anything really sharp, even if there's no reason for her to touch it. She also has a visceral, involuntary reaction to blood or the thought of anyone doing

anything to her teeth, but thinks these are entirely logical. She likes insects. * This troper doesn't have a problem with heights, fire, spiders, snakes, needles, or anything like that. She has a completely rational fear of being in water because she can't swim. So what ''is'' she phobic of, you ask? ''Phones.'' Just the ringing of one makes her jump and makes her heart rate skyrocket. Don't even get her onto actually ''talking'' on them... ** This troper used to be similar. Unfortunately, he can't remember why or how that stopped being the case. ** Phones ''are'' creepy; there's something about trying to communicate with someone with nothing but a disembodied voice that just feels ''wrong.'' * This troper doesn't like to think that his fear of downwards escalators (he's only slightly tense on upwards ones) is irrational per se. I mean, the damned things have serrated edges, like they're designed to rip and tear at flesh in case someone happens to make a mistake as they step on and ends up falling down them. Also, his sister has a crippling fear of all sharp objects, especially kitchen knives. ** This troper's fear of escalators is completely rational, having fallen down the one going up (...think about it) at the age of four. Sadly her family didn't realize this had made such a strong impression until several weeks later when her aunt, who hadn't heard the previous story, got on an escalator only to reach the top and discover that the wee troper was still at the bottom. Thus leading to the troper's fear of shopping malls. ** [[@/{{Callahan}} This troper]] was absolutely terrified of down escalators as a child and still feels a little creeped out by them. ** I thought I was alone! I feel so happy... mainly because I feel less crazy. * Going down stairs. A real problem, as [[@/HersheleOstropoler this troper]] lives in a walk-up. Also needles, particularly [=IVs=], also a problem when he was in the hospital for three months. * This troper is not particularly fond of anything having to do with veins, arteries, or any blood vessel really. * This troper's father is a 230 pound ex-US Marine. He's terrified of sunflowers. ** There HAS to be a story behind that! Tell us! *** Apparentley they look like giant eyes to him, and ever since he was young he's always had the feeling that they were watching him. Which I totally get. Also, he's jumped out a moving car because there was a cockroach on the floor. * This troper is so afraid of heights that she almost fainted at the Grand Canyon, when she realized that no, there really ISN'T anything between you and the edge of the freaking world. Being reminded that she'd be fine if she stayed back from the edge didn't help at all, because she has this irrational conviction that either a spontaneous vacuum will form to pull her over the edge, or she will develop an irreversible compulsion to jump. ** The last part helped form this troper's pretty intense fear of heights. Whenever she looks over a railing, she gets this weird urge

to jump over, and promptly runs about half a mile away in response. ** God, I hate the urge to jump. Apparently, you're not a REAL acrophobe if you don't want to jump off things to get away from the heights. It's such a weird, primal instinct. ** Fun story: back when this troper thought she was only mildly afraid of heights, she took an elevator to the top of a cathedral with her family. The urge to jump was so strong she knew she had to go down ''somehow'' before she did something stupid but she was so freaked out she forgot there was an elevator and had a panick attack because she couldn't figure out how to get away. Ha. Ha. ha. * This Troper has to have one of the weirdest phobias ever: piers. Anything else over water is fine, such as boats. But the thought of him or one of his loved ones going out on a pier turns this troper into a quivering mess. It probably comes from a dream he had when he was 3, of his sister falling off of one and drowning. * This troper isn't very fond of roaches. He's gotten better at it lately and can at least handle the ''very'' small ones, but the bigger ones, and ''especially'' those big ass, two-inch waterbugs scare the crap out of him. The phobia ''might'' have started when I, barely older than a toddler at the time, just stepped out of the shower and one [[{{Squick}} crawled up his bare leg!]] ** This troper recommends you don't settle down in central Texas, where the roaches get to be three inches long, sometimes ''fly'' and are ugly as hell. She was charged by one once, promptly freaked out, and became very trigger-happy with the can of Raid she was holding. *** [[@/{{Sitheltzon}} This troper]] would like to thank you for sharing that advice. Flying cockroaches would be [[NightmareFuel hell]] for him. ** At least you can deal with live ones, if just barely; I literally jump and scream like a scared 5-year-old if I see a live one of ANY size while at home. At school, I have to be more subtle about it, but it's still noticeable, and unfortunately, I've caught a lot of flak from several idiots at school because of my phobia. ** This troper had one go down her ear. AND GET STUCK. when she was eleven. It required an emergency hospital visit. I've been freaked out by "crickets" ever since. I'm now so terrified that I can't play a certain level of WarioWare Smooth Moves because I ran off screaming. Watching [[WallE WALL-E]] meant having my husband watch it first and tell me when to look away and the one time he missed a scene I went completely frozen and burst into tears. * When she was five, a camp counselor told this troper that there were barracudas living under the docks. She has avoided the undersides of docks ever since. * This guy isn't afraid of heights, but ''falling''. Yup. Falling. I can be up on the 100th floor as long as I'm secure... ** As Rincewind once said, "I don't have a fear of heights. It's falling from heights that scares me. ** You're not the only one. Secure buildings, even when there's only a railing, I'm fine. Put me twenty feet up on a wobbly branch... *** Or a wobbly ladder or catwalk for [[@/{{SpikeBeaver}} This Troper]]... ** I'm the same way. I can be inside on the tenth floor of a building

without too much trouble, but I cried and panicked while sitting in a friend's tree house. I hate heights, but at the same time--I'm intrigued by them. But I'll look up at them from the nice, solid ground, okay? ** Oh god, are you guys [[@/LoserGamerBritt me]]? I'm the exact same way; heights don't phase me as long as I know I'm safe. But if I feel like I might fall... *** Escalators freak me out. I've been having nightmares with those in them. ** This troper is the same way. Recently, I was on a school trip and we were hiking up a precarious trail up a cliff. I had to stop, sit down, and cry for a while. For some reason I had this compulsion to keep insisting "I'm not afraid of heights! I'm just afraid of falling!" to everyone. * [[@/{{gs68}} This troper]], in a copraphobic moment, had his sewage system once back into his shower, covering its floor with crap. Needless to say, he screamed like a motherfucker when he opened his shower door. ** He also has mycophobia, a fear of mold and fungi. He's afraid to open a tub of cream cheese after it's gone for one week in the fridge, in fear of it having turned fuzzy with a big, mole-like black spot on it. Also, if you want to torture him into insanity, bring him within one foot of a cluster of wild mushrooms. ** Thanks to [[SpikesOfDoom Thorns of Doom]] in games like ''DonkeyKongCountry 2'' and ''MapleStory'', he freaks out at the sight of thorns, with the {{Squick}}ing being directly proportional to how big and long the thorns are. ** And finally, emergency indoor staircases. Extra points if the lighting is weak and orange, the ceiling of the stairs is many feet higher than the top of the stairs, and there's a loud air vent shaft; the former two were part of a rather eerie staircase-climbing experience in this troper's prepubescent days. Two of his classes take place in a building with such a staircase, and he goes through these stairs whenever possible and practical to get over his fear. * This troper fervently believes that the [[CosmicHorror cranefly]] is solid proof of the non-existence of [[GodIsEvil God]]. Well - perhaps 'solid' is the wrong word. ''Oh God, they'' '''''[[NightmareFuelUnleaded fall apart!!]]''''' ** They're effectively ''spiders capable of flight''. This troper is glad she's not the only one who finds them horrifying. To top it off, they make that dreadful skittering sound... * This troper doesn't like heights, but is very specific about it. Skywalks? Fine. Airplanes? Give her a window seat. But put her on a free-standing stairway, or some platform where you can see the ground below you? GET ME OUT OF HERE! * [[@/{{Seanette}} This troper]] is both mildly acrophobic and VERY ophidiophobic (to the point of flinching at printed pictures of snakes). She also tends to react badly to worms (but is fine with any reptile with legs). ** This troper is also extremely ophidiophobic. Once, for a psychology project on mental disorders, he had to make copies from his teacher's old textbook. His topic was phobias, and that section's only photo was

of a snake lunging at the camera--an example of an image that would be distressing for ophidiophobes. This troper freaked out so much that he threw the book to the ground, then after a minute to calm down, gave the book to his partner and asked that guy to make the copies. * This troper is afraid of horses and tomatoes. Yes, tomatoes. ** Horses scare me, too. They're giant, stupid animals that can badly injure you with just a misstep, what's not to be afraid of? * This troper is occasionally afraid of needles (from a bad experience at the dentist's. Put it this way: I felt and heard the needle ''pierce my cheek and scrape the bone in my jaw''), balconies (it didn't help that my brother would jump on the damn thing and joke about pushing me off one), knives (my brother, once again joking by bringing a kitchen knife near my skin, which I ''hate the most''), darkness (my bro standing outside my room at night just to get a reaction from me... are you starting to see the pattern?), and porcelain dolls. Them and their gosh ''darned EYES''. * Jellyfish. Can't stand them. For God's sake, they have no brains and no anuses! They're all slimy! How do they REPRODUCE? ** They reproduce by releasing sperm or eggs into the water which are fertilized. They also do have an anus... it's their mouth... I just made your fear worse, didn't I. * Intimacy. Physical, emotional, any kind you can think of. Then there's the usual, such as heights, spiders (this troper joins the "vicious hatred" club on this one) and choking. * Three things for this Troper: Heights, but only if I'm standing on glass or something clear that allows me to look down ( I once went to a mall where the second floor had walkways across the main atrium made of frosted glass. Could not cross. I went the long way.); any sort of Fingore (to the point that even thinking of losing a fingernail induces vivid, bloody mental images); and centipedes (I was taking a shower and one '''came through the frigging DRAIN.'''. Needless to say, I don't like the buggers.). But pretty much everything else doesn't faze me much. * Somehow hiding from someone or something in a small area leads to both an extreme sense of security AND fear, even though I'm not claustrophobic. It's because while there's little chance of them finding you, if they DO, you've got little chance of escape. * This troper is severely insectophobic. If it bites, stings, eats, injects, or can otherwise cause harm to the human body, I don't want it anywhere near me. Most of this troper's nightmares revolve around being bitten by spiders of varying sizes. (Smaller poisonous spiders are more common, but one dream involved a tarantula bite. The bitten area was itchy when she woke up.) She is also terrified of fire ever since she purposely set a tissue on fire and nearly sent her room up in flames. And small children, ages three and below. ''Shudder''. ** I'm not ''afraid'' of small children, but yeah. Babies creep me the hell out. It's the weird, spastic movements, the way that yeah, they ''are'' human, but the scale is off and they don't ''act'' human that does it for me. Also the fact that they smell weird and are prone to emitting ear-splitting noises and disgusting substances without warning. That too. * Heights. More specifically, heights where you can actually see how

high up you are. If I'm a hundred stories up, I'm fine- as long as I'm not near any windows/balconies/etc. This carries over to stairs (fine as long as I can't see straight down) and escalators (going down, not going up.) This killed me on a trip to New York with my orchestra, where we: 1)had a session with the assistant conductor of the New York Philharmonic...in a ninth-floor walkup with rickety stairs. 2) We went to Carnegie Hall, where they took us up in the Dress Circle. There this troper sat, in one of the most musically and historically significant places on earth, somewhere she'd dreamed her whole life of going- desperately clutching at the armrests on her seat, whispering "Don't look down, don't look down, don't look down." She's got it bad. As an aspiring movie director, she's worried about if she ever has to direct something from a bucket 100 ft. in the air... * This troper RP's as a mage, completely willing to take on enemies far outside her skill level (and occasionally even wounding them!) but who happens to be deathly afraid of clowns. * This troper's younger sister is a spirited, child-like tomboy. But five minutes ago, she called out LOUD to this ShrinkingViolet of an older sister, almost in tears, because there was a single spider on the floor of their mother's bedroom. * This troper has two fears that he absolutely cannot get past, no matter what. One is heights. I used to have a recurring dream as a child (and still occasionally have it) where my mother and I were on the bridge near my (first) house and for some reason, just fell off. My other fear, arguably greater than my one of heights, is clowns. Whenever I see one in real life, I go through several stages. The first stage is being utterly terrified and not being able to move. The second stage is fuzzy. The third stage ends up with me standing over an unconscious clown with a bloody nose. Thankfully, those last two stages have only happened once, and those who witnessed the event agree that it was deserved. A clown came up to me and started screwing around. The people I was with (who are surprisingly understanding when it comes to my fear) told the clown that I was terrified of him, and he just ''wouldn't stop''. Cut to fifteen seconds later, where I had my friends holding me back and the clown's creepy red nose had fallen off. Surprisingly, though, while I am still scared of them, clowns on television and in movies don't scare me and, even more surprisingly, Joker doesn't scare me because he's a clown. No, he scares me for a whole different set of reasons. Plus, at least he's straightforward about his intentions. ** I just have to ask: [[MemeticMutation Why so serious?]] *** Let's just say it involves a traumatic experience with a lifesized stuffed clown when I was five. * This troper can be severely [[{{Squick}} squicked]] by misaligned teeth. Not because of how they look, but because it's so easy for him to imagine ripping one of your teeth out by biting down wrong. * [[@/DarkInsanity13 This troper]] has more fears than she'd care to admit, but... ** Spiders (as stated near the top of the page) ** Heights when there is the possibility of falling (roller coasters, surprisingly, are the exception) ** Dark places, which is directly related to...

** Horror movies (can't sleep, [insert serial killer/ghost/creepy thing here] will kill me in my sleep) (also surprisingly, creepy anime doesn't bother her as much...but she won't watch them in the dark) ** Bugs in general (with a few exceptions, like mosquitoes and ants) (also to the chagrin of her father, who studied entomology in university) ** Drowning (more specifically, putting her head underwater without a snorkeling mask of some sort on...an experience where she almost drowned in a pool invoked this) ** Needles (she can stand them within limits, but always has to put herself in the right mindset before getting them) ** Falling (even thinking of tripping puts her on edge) ** Prospect of pain/injury (can be bypassed if her mind is on something else, and she's usually fine after the fact...it's just the possibility that freaks her out) ** Err...many others. *** Other fears in the family include clowns (brother) and snakes (father). Can't seem to recall what mother's afraid of... *** While everyone in same troper's family has varying limits on heights, it's wholeheartedly agreed that the Millau Bridge in France is far, far too high for any rational person to go near. Just from watching documentaries. * Needles, heights, getting hurt, mannequins and the irrational fear of suddenly turning into someone else. Doesn't help that the last one pops into this troper's head ''quite often''. Also doesn't help that it goes through stages, and that right now (very hilariously) Homestar Runner (which I'm kinda obsessed with now) seems to be helping it. My life is great. Ain't my life great? ** The same troper as above has a friend who's scared of fungus, so I suppose I can't complain. Much. * This troper isn't afraid of spiders, snakes, insects, or mice, but only as long as they aren't ON her unexpectedly. She is, however, afraid of medical needles (sewing needles are fine), children, and [[HouseofLeaves the idea of someone waiting quietly behind her]]. * SpikesOfDoom for this troper, at least as a child. It's the reason she could never play [[SonicTheHedgehog Sonic CD]]. They still make her a little uneasy. * This troper has major problems dealing with big moths, big mosquitoes (which are apparently the ones that don't even suck blood), and mid-size spiders. I'm fine with small spiders, and I'm fine with tarantulas, but give me one in between and I flip out. I'm also claustrophobic and acrophobic. * This troper has a completely and utterly irrational fear of keys and chains and she flatly refuses to wear jewelry, with the possible exception of her class ring on special occasions. She used to be afraid of metal fasteners on clothes and all-metal silverware too, but luckily, those faded in childhood. She has yet to figure out what caused said dislike. ** She also detests any critter that is not a member of the vertebrate family. Lizards? Hand it over. Mice and rats? Feed it! Snakes? Awesome! Gnats and mosquitoes? OHDEARGODHELP. Cockroaches? Cue fullscale panic attack.

* Dogs. Any kind. This makes it a problem when my downstairs neighbour wants to walk her dog and I'm in the lift. She usually lets me go first. * My current roommate has the weirdest phobias I've ever heard of: Balloons and Metronomes. I almost induced a panic attack by imitating a metronome in stunned disbelief when first told. ** This troper also has a phobia about balloons. * This troper has been an unreasonable emetophobe her whole life, to the point where it would every so often stop her from eating. She's got meds now to fix that bit, but god help her if her fiance gets stomach flu again. * Why did it have to be tarantulas?! * Maggots, grubs, slugs, worms, ugh ah ugh gah. * [[Tropers/{{G-Mon}} This troper]] used to be afraid of dogs. Wasn't too keen on yellowjackets either after an encounter with a nest of them. Both faded over time, although he still gives dogs their space, and a big enough dog can still unsettle him. * Any description of what the human body goes through when one freezes to death is enough to cause this troper to nearly collapse. Hell, he saw an {{X-Files}} where the guy was killed by having his head dunked in liquid nitrogen and smashed and passed out, much to the humor of his friends who thought he was joking. Until he didn't wake up after the scene switched. * This troper is afraid of loosing control, leading to sudden (though thankfully unfrequent) fears of not being able to stop buying things in shops, a late introduction to alcohol, and a virtually non-existant love life. There's also the fear of wasps, justified in that her mum was thought to be deathly allergic and thus freaked out whenever one was in sight. Thunder and needles isn't much fun either. * This troper is deathly afraid of spiders. If one is suddenly near her, she WILL run away, then get a shoe and stamp it. This extends to all bugs, leading to her slamming the sliding door shut and running in terror to her father when she saw a bug rush across the screen door so he could kill it, and running away when a mystery bug was in the LAMPSHADE, where she would not reach up to kill it, and eventually leading to her beating it to death with a remote when it showed its face. Ew, ew, ew. Also anything that stings, from when a nest of bees attacked her. And there's a hive ''somewhere'' in her backyard. She doesn't like going out there. Also, heights send her overactive imagination into overdrive, imagining her platform crumbling. She also hates walking outside when it's dark with a passion, being terrified someone or someTHING will pop out and try to eat her. A fondness for zombies doesn't help. At a Halloween party she didn't want to be outside because she was scared that a werewolf would show up(full moon). Oddly, she begged her friend for them to walk back to his house in the dark through the woods rather than the lit roadway, partly because it was shorter. * [[@/GalenDev This Troper]] is deathly afraid of dogs and hypodermic needles. He was also completely terrified by ''{{The Happening}}'', not due to any real cinematic genius on the part of the way past his prime M. Night Shyamalan, but instead because the very idea of losing one's free will and committing acts of extreme violence and sin upon

oneself is anathema to the Troper. * This troper is terrified of slime (to the point where the word for slime appearing in a certain trope that begins with g and isn't "gunk" scares me) - though not so much if it's meant to be blood, for some reason. He's also scared of clowns, but if the make-up's not too exaggerated they're more sinister than NightmareFuel. Also suffocation, especially drowning. ** Your slime fear is reversed for this troper. I loved playing with phosphorescent toy slime as a kid, and I would've loved to have a slime bath, but unfortunately I never did. * This troper fears death. Really. And it's not what hollywood paints it up to be, it seriously sucks! ANYTHING has a possible chance of killing him, however small, should be avoided at all costs, including just standing on a second floor of a building, sometimes. And anything that reminds me that my body organs are not invincible and are necessary makes me really really squirmish, making learning about human anatomy particularly awful. Don't say "we need lungs to breathe" around me, please! ...Funny thing is that it's my only fear, regardless of how sensible it would be. If it can't kill me or leave me permanently worse off, it's nothing to fear. I used to catch bees, torture them, then let them go for fun. * This troper fears cows, heights, the dark and spiders. Cows take down more people than great white sharks. I cite ''Fingerprint Farm'' as the cause for my fear of cows although the owl scared me even more. * I happen to be very uncomfortable and insecure about a lot of things, as I tend to be paranoid. (When the rest of my family goes out somewhere and I stay home, if they're gone for a long time, I start wondering if they've been in a car crash, or if there's a robbery going on in the store they're at, or they got taken hostage by someone...) I used to have a fear of dogs that resulted from the very unpleasant experience with a certain next door neighbor. (When they didn't have a fence, the dog bit me when I tried to pet it. Then years later, it chased me as I was roller-blading to my friends house. Also, its owner stole my bike and dismantled it.) Occasionally, a fear that something is behind a closed door would come up, especially when I'm stumbling around in the dark. Large bugs are scary too. (Some people had fun teasing me with cicadas.) But the thing that really scares me...are magnified pictures of things. Mostly cells and bugs. A lab I had to do at school included something about flies, and the booklet had a magnified picture of a fly's head, making me immediately turn it over. I had to ask my friend to hand it back when we were finished, because even the thought of touching it made me freeze up. And flipping through the Biology textbook often makes me suddenly jump up and scream. And because of my damn imagination, I often see those creepy bulging eyes when I close my eyes, and I keep imagining seeing a giant, dead bug in the bathroom, twitching its huge, hairy leg...or worse, its alive and drooling from its pincers, ready to cut off my head... ** I share your fear of closed doors, fellow troper. This is combined with not just a fear of the dark, but a fear of the unknown and fear for my family. It doesn't help that the carpet behind my brother's door bulges up so it looks like something is standing just behind it.

* This troper ''hates'' being alone, outside, in the dark. If she can't avoid it, she will either run, bring a flashlight, or sing at the top of her lungs. ** ...Are you doing anything this weekend? That's the first other person this troper has ever met who'd admit that. He does exactly the same things. ** This troper too. We should throw a party or something ** This troper HAS to sing or talk or wave a light source around when she goes outside in the dark...even if there's someone else with her though. * This troper also has problems with heights, but not in the "don't look down" sense. For him, it's "don't look up"--every time he's inside a building where there is something huge and heavy far above him, especially cathedrals and castles, he becomes panicked, feeling inexplicably like he's either going to fall over light-headed and crack his head open or that it's going to fall on him. Sitting down only helps a little. This, unfortunately, makes it harder but not impossible for this troper to engage in one of his hobbies, appreciating architecture. * Mirrors. OHMYGOD. I don't mean the film, just mirrors in general. I guess I'm scared of my own reflection, but only in mirrors, oddly enough. Also china dolls and clowns. I can handle bees, rats and mice are SO,SO, CUTE, I adore snakes and lizards. Spiders freak me out, but only if they're a reasonabley large size. Oh, and weirdly enough, I hate ''ambulances'' they just... scare me... ** Mirrors at night scare me. During the day I have no problem with them, but there's just something about them that seems ''off'' after dark. ** This troper can't bear to turn his back on a mirror on the dark, or sometimes even if he's just alone in a room with one. No matter how much he rationalises it away, he just can't convince himself that his reflection is doing ''exactly'' what he's doing when he's not looking at it. * Thanks to this site, this troper finally knows that the fear of monkeys is called Maimouphobia. It's so bad that even the word can set her off, and so has put off typing the name in until she's finished typing so she won't have to see it until then. Pictures, movies, sound recordings and even abstract representations have her trying to remove herself from the situation as fast as possible. Toys and GAMES in which they're featured are particularly trying as they tend to be very popular. Unfortunately it's justified (though not in the way you'd expect) as she was bullied elementary school through high school with the name monkey-face. I once attacked my best friend's boyfriend because of this, as he likened me to one when I was showing off my tree-climbing skills. He was actually trying to compliment me, and even knowing that at the time didn't help. It's also hard as an avid animal lover, name ''any'' animal besides these and apes and I like them. That includes reptiles, arachnids, sharks, worms, and all the regularity undesired sorts. * takes a deep breath, then goes to fill in the blanks* ** So...[[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys everything's NOT better with monkeys]]?

* Rotten fruit especially for this one, and rotten milk has made this troper throw up in the past. * So glad I'm not the only one afraid of heights. I can change light bulbs if I absolutely have to, but it's slow work and whimper a lot. And that's ''if'' the chair is stable. Don't even get me started on ladders. Funny thing, I can climb up trees just fine. It's getting down that's the problem. I'd had to be pealed off more tree trunks and carefully guided down a ladder more times than a cartoon cat. If the surface I'm standing on is a grate that I can see through my legs turn to jelly and I almost have to be dragged to the other side. And yet so many other common fears don't bother me (okay, I startle easily, but I'm not actually scared of most things). Bugs? Some of them are kinda cute. Snakes? Cool. The dark? Got over that in my teens. Clowns? Only for a couple years after seeing part of a really nasty horror movie. Bats? I want one as a pet. No, if you want to see me reduced to a worthless, blubbering mass of trepidation then it's gotta be heights. * I'm not sure if they count, but this troper is particular freaked out by TheGreys. Just looking at a picture of one can leave me unsettled for a long time afterwards. Especially ones where they're staring at you with those giant, featureless eyes... {{X-COM}} has really caused this to resurface. Right now I have all the doors closed and lights on... Meanwhile, my father is hilariously afraid of spiders. By the way, we live in [[DeathWorld Australia]]. * This troper is scared shitless of fish. I don't know why but I can stand to be in the same room as one. And don't even get me started on swimming in a lake or ocean. Also, absolutely terrified of heights and the dark(and I'm 19!). * I have two major fears. They're not my only fears, but they're definitely the most prominent: ** Spiders, and not just a mild fear. When I see a spider it has to go the moment it comes within a certain distance of me or it moves. If it doesn't move at all and stays a specific distance away from me then it can stay until it grows above a certain size, then I start freaking out. Even worse, my fear extends to dead spiders. Oh, they can stay so long as they remain a certain distance from me and they're not too big - I don't fear them then. But the moment I have a touch a dead one? Well it's not going to happen on the off chance it's pretending (no matter how long its been since it last moved, there's still a chance it's trying to trick me!) or it decides to come back from the dead when I touch it. ** Butterflies, and no one in the family has been able to think of a reason for it or anything that could have possibly have caused it. As far as we know the first time I saw a butterfly I freaked out and that had remained the same ever since. * Like some of the other people here, this troper has issues with dogs. There isn't any particular reason for it, but he cannot for the life of him understand why people willingly keep them as pets. * One of This Troper's friend's biggest fears are The Joker, crossdressers and... ''feet''. She refuses to touch ''any'' Batman graphic novels after seeing mistah J wearing high heels in Batman: Arkham Asylum. * This Troper used to get really freaked out by pictures of eyes (or

people looking out of those pictures) and couldn't have them hanging around, it felt they where ''watching''. Another person they know also suffers from this, but they have so many issues it's not even funny, so it's not exactly comforting. * The idea of any kind of involuntary medical treatment, especially if it's not actually necessary, freaks [[@/{{Cameoflage}} this troper]] right the hell out. Even more so if the person's being held down, thrashing and screaming. BedlamHouse hits the same notes for me, but it goes above and beyond an isolated incident (although such extreme measures aren't often ''seen'' in isolation...). [[http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF240-Return_of_the_Ghost.gif This]] ''PerryBibleFellowship'' strip is a ''perfect example'' of what I'm talking about. Note the syringe. * shudders* On the bright side, normal, benign, nonthreatening medical stuff doesn't bother me at all, so it mainly just affects me when I'm reading fiction or accounts of other people's experiences. ([[ParanoiaFuel So far.]]) And I can handle {{Mad Doctor}}s without being more than somewhat creeped out, so long as I don't have to actually watch them doing horrible things to people StrappedToAnOperatingTable. ** The other big one is LossOfIdentity, which I define as comprehensive personality changes to an extent above and beyond what could happen through CharacterDevelopment and forced upon one by something external. * [[EyeScream ...Eye injury.]] It's a phobia that doubles as NauseaFuel for this troper. ** Oh god, [[@/{{Cameoflage}} me]] too. Facial mutilation in general freaks me out quite a bit, but eyes are the worst. Mutilating somebody's ''hands'' falls into more or less the same category. * This troper has a very specific bug phobia: the solifugids. True spiders? Okay. Camel spiders? Look like things from another planet. Luckily her chances of encountering one are currently very low. * This troper can fear anything if given enough time to think about it. Her fears include: horror movies, claymation, "paper cut-out" animation/collages, any pictures of ghosts, aliens, etc. no matter how doctored, the end of the world by any circumstance, and anything human shaped but devoid of a living human in it (silhouettes, chalk outlines of bodies, human-shaped holes, etc). * This troper is horrified by blood, and pretty much anything and everything related to blood (shots, surgery, injuries, etc). Even just thinking about blood. The one exception is that, when drawing, she has no problem with having copious amounts of blood and gore in the pictures. Cartoon blood, apparently, is not very effective. ** [[@/TedAsanto Oh, but I think cartoon blood works dizzyingly well, if you dwell about it.]] * This troper is deathly afraid of centipedes. He once saw one in his room and moved to the other side of the house, in his uncle's room, for about a month. * This troper is afraid of poison. Anything that could carry poison, including, snakes, spiders (been bitten), medical needles, knives, bees (deathly allergic), and a lot of other things. He has given one doctor a black eye, and a dentist a bloody nose. (He's sorry about the doctor, but he did tell the dentist it would be best to strap his arms

down, and they had straps right on the chair) bees was also a problem, considering his father raised them. He liked them until he stepped in a wild beehive in an old tree trunk. Snakes are a curious one too. If he knows the snake is defanged, there is no reaction, even if it acts aggressively. However, he has chased down a copperhead (which he knew not only were not poisonous, but ate the poisonous snakes in the area) even though it was trying to get away, although it may have been triggered by having a really bad day (the second day of a nature survival test, unable to have started a fire, didn't any food, and slept in the rain on hard rocks with a torn plastic tarp) ** He is also afraid of heights, although only mildly. He (like some others) has a compulsion to jump. He, thankfully, have little to no problem so long as their is some kind of rail, and loves flying (although he was scared the first time). For some reason if he is on some kind of beam, branch, rope bridge, or something else thin suspended over nothing, he dosn't have a problem, so long as the surface is rather stable. Horror movies are a rather major one, although that can be gotten around by, well simply not watching them. * [[@/{{Bufuman}} This troper]] is normally a very calm individual who can kill spiders, hold snakes, and hang out on roofs and other high places without so much as a second thought. But there are two things that absolutely terrify me. The first has already been admitted by a few people on this page; bees, wasps, and other stinging insects. I'm normally the laziest bastard alive, but get any one of those things near me and I turn into an Olympic sprinter. The second is a bit stranger: silence. If there's no noise somewhere, I freak the hell out and rush to play some kind of music, flip on a TV, ANYTHING. I always have to have some kind of sound playing in the room. I can't even sleep unless I have a radio in the room. ** I also need background sound (including music at night). I wouldn't call it a freakout if it's too quiet, but I do get uncomfortable. ** That makes two of us, but I need the sound at night- I find it almost impossible to sleep without noise. * This troper is terrified of any stinging, buzzing insect (bees, wasps and hornets) and heights. Ever since I got stung, I've been terrified of the buzzing noise and the stingers. Also, I get EXTREMELY nervous when close to a cliff or a steep slope, even if there is a guard railing there. * This (considerably paranoid troper) has many fears, including some that are rather irrational (she attributes this to foolishly watching a 'Top 100 Scariest Movie Moments' on TV and was never the same since). Her biggest fears include nuclear war, dead things and the living dead. The fact that she's fairly squemish doesn't help either. * This troper is terrified when he sees a picture of a fetus. The UncannyValley most likely has something to do with this. Also, he gets afraid of many little circular shapes clumped up together, though he doesn't know why this is. Maybe it's because the first thing he thinks of is usually a bunch of eyes staring at him. * It's just two fears for [[@/{{Haza}} this troper]], two very specific fears, but they're horribly bad. ** Moths (haven't seen it in this page... yet). They... they're like flying, fuzzy cockroaches that ''stick'' to your face and fly towards

you and they're fragile and they break apart and are ''very'' hard to kill aaaAAAAGHHH. Butterflies count, too. And if they can't fly or have no wings it's even WORSE. ''They become maggots.'' *** Yeah I agree with this one. I can stand nearly everything except for Moths and Craneflys. ** Claustrophobia, but only in spaces of reduced ''height''. It doesn't matter how wide the place is; if the ceiling's low, I'll start freaking out or hyperventilating soon. But in a small space like an elevator, if the ceiling's reasonably high I have no problems at all. Weird. * This troper has a strong phobia at the sight of blood, although it doesn't really feel like fear or terror, it's just sickening. She can remain functional for a few moments--usually long enough to bandage herself in the event that it's her own blood that's causing the reaction--before stars begin to appear in her sight and eventually overwelms her vision. So long as this troper sits down before fainting (shortly after the "can't see a thing" phase), she can remain conscious. She's also been told that she becomes very pale during those episodes. It's an extreme enough reaction that the USAF discharged her from her non-com job because of it. Strangely, blood in a pad, bandage, or clothing doesn't affect her. This is one phobia that really sucks. What's really funny, though, is that nothing else really causes great concern to this troper--even needles are fine, so long as they're putting something ''in'' and not drawing blood out. * This Troper has four: ** Tennis balls. Reason: Unknown. ** Oprah. Reason: Powerful, [[{{The Unfair Sex}} misa]][[{{Straw Feminist}} ndri]][[{{Does Not Like Men}} stic]] [[{{Religion Of Evil}} cult leader]]. ** [[{{Girl Scouts Are Evil}} Girl Scouts]]. Reason: They're like the mob, but worse. They come to your house, shake you down for money, and sell you out to everyone in a fifty mile radius if you don't pay up. I mean, at least the mob can be reasoned with (after all, all they want is the money), but the Girl Scouts... They do it for fun... ** Furbies. Reason: The eyes, the eyes!!! * BodyHorror in general for [[@/InsanityPrelude me]]. Also, {{Womb Level}}s, although I guess that could be a subset of BodyHorror. The thought of getting grievously hurt/ill in general, and ''especially'' [[EyeScream eye injuries]]. Also, needles. I really don't like needles. I made the mistake of looking at the article for ''TraumaCenter'' because I was curious about the plot, and it'll probably take me a while to get it out of my mind... Ugh. * [[@/SapphireFlame This troper]] cannot stand any kind of swarming insect. Bees? Wasps? Stinging ants? Sorry, but I don't want to be anywhere near them. If killer bees ever make their way up to where I live, I might just have to move. * This Troper is scared shitless by Rats, but not by mice for some reason. * [[@/WoolieWool This troper]] is afraid of large dogs (why would anyone keep an animal whose every vocalization sounds absolutely furious and is often as big as the owner?), cars (4000-pound guided missiles), spoiled food (is that pizza more than a day old? Forget

it), and surgery. Especially really gruesome surgeries like fasciotomies. Don't Google Image Search "fasciotomy". [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel You will regret it]]. * Please can some other troper reassure [[@/{{Fly}} this troper]] that she's not the only person terrified by balloons? ** My brother used to be. Had to leave a party because of all the balloons. * Heights. No. Just no. When my graduating class went to an amusement park, my friends wanted me to go on a roller coaster, saying sometimes being scared is fun. I reminded them of the differences between fun scared and a full-on panic attack. * This troper refuses to get close to large dogs and large farm animals (especially horses) thanks to bad childhood experiences with both. * This troper is absolutely terrified of facial deformities, to the point that seeing someone with their face covered is enough to freak her out, because she's afraid of what's being hidden. This is probably a result of the time when she was shown a [[ScareEmStraight video]] in sixth grade about drunk driving, which showed a woman whose face had been burned badly in a car crash. Even now, this troper won't google ''anything'' that could possibly turn up pictures of burn victims or anything similar. * This troper, while not really afraid, gets somewhat nervous around heights. Though oddly he has no problems with airplanes. He also doesn't like roller coasters, which practically rules out half the rides at Six Flags. ** He also gets a bit uncomfortable when it's silent. Any place he sleeps, he has to have a fan on as background noise. * This troper was such scaredy-cat as a kid for so many reasons. Fallen down stairs twice as a kid? Boom, scared of falling from heights. Slammed into a cupboard by an overenthusiastic black lab when she was 2? Took 15 years to get over that one, and still is scared of big dogs. I was also scared of nighttime ambiance when it was dark, water, flying projectiles, most animals mostly due to the dog incident... but the one that qualifies as this trope the most has to be bugs. I've moved a lot as a kid. One time, it we lived smack dab where bugs would migrate in large groups. Then, it was Florida where there was no end to heat-loving insects. Then, it was in a house the middle of the woods with an attic that was, unknowingly to us when we got the house, infested with wood roaches. That always found their way on my bed or in my clothes drawer. WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE ROACHES!? (The time that I woke up with a centipede crawling up my shirt was lovely too. Frickin' South and their bugs.) * This troper is a little odd with fears. I'm afraid of heights, but I love roller coasters. I'm afraid of the dark, and still require a light source in order to go to bed. I can't even look at bugs without freaking out, to the point that if I see a moth fly in my path, I just run out the room. Also, thanks to my OCD, if I touch something that is cold and wet, I freak out and wash my hands immediately. * [[@/PurplePantherGirl This Troper]] hates escalators. THEY MOVE THEY MOVE THEY FREAKING MOVE. (Though the reason is probably because at the age of 3 she fell on one and couldn't get up. IT WAS MOVING.) Oh and

mirrors. You aren't meant to see yourself like that! NO! * This troper has a fear of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparkler sparklers]] and teenagers. The first fear is easy to deal with as being 17 means that I can hide at home on [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night Guy Fawkes Night]] ... of course being 17 makes my social life completely ... messed up. ** You're not completely alone in your fear of sparklers. While I can stand to be around them, I refuse to hold one or go close to one. I also can't relax unless I know there is a bucket of water or sand handy. I'm just very afraid of one of those sparks catching. * Combination of small spaces, crowds, loud noises, inability to run and being in the presence of many, many drunk people, That is why the Jazz festival was a living Hell for this Troper ([[strike: I don't even like Jazz!]] I '''HATE''' Jazz with the white-hot intensity of a [[strike: thousand]] Million suns, and I was only there because Mom dragged me) * This troper lives on a farm so there are rare few things i am NOW afraid of.I HATE slugs and snails.I saw a giant one inhale a fish as long as my forearm. I didn't even know they HAD mouths. And i hate fish. They are slimy,the scales can cut you.they have no eyelids and never blink.Oh...and catfish,as tasty as can be,can grow to the size of school buses and swallow unsuspecting scuba divers whole.And..skunks.just skunks.i have a VERY sensetive sense of smell and can taste whatever i smell.I hate perfume and shit for a good reason. i can smell a skunk coming half a mile away. And one female deliberatley chased me up a tree and teased me by stamping her feet and waving her tail. She even brought along her kids to watch the show. Oh,and skunks can climb trees,too. * This troper has leporiphobia -- the fear of rabbits. Rabbits in hutches, playboy bunnies, the Easter bunny? All fine. Rabbits on the ground? By your toes? Near your feet? Close enough to touch you and bite you and scare you shitless just thinking about them??? Urgh. * [[@/{{Sisperini}} This Troper]] is surprised that no one has mentioned her biggest phobia yet - it's even got its own [[http://www.emetophobia.org/ international society]]. It's emetophobia, the fear of vomiting. I am utterly terrified of the idea of losing control over my body while my gut contents come out of my mouth. It doesn't help that I'm prone to getting stomach cramps from being stressed out, which can sometimes create a vicious cycle of feeling stressed, cramping, panicking, stressing again, etc. The last time I vomited was over 2 years ago, and not a single day has gone by in which I haven't wondered whether or not today will be the day I vomit again. ** My second biggest fear is choking. It's the opposite of my vomiting phobia - I'm not afraid of choking myself, but I'm terrified of listening to or watching other people choking; even on television or cartoons, where it's often played for [[{{DudeNotFunny}} "laughs"]]. Oh yeah, and I freak out just about every time an animal regurgitates, because the sounds it makes remind me of choking. The last time someone actually choked while I was in the room, I ran away half crouching, shrieking at the top of my lungs, covering my ears and attempting to dive behind the couch. No, that is NOT an exaggeration.

*** This troper knows exactly how you feel. I got a terrible dose of food poisoning, and was in horrible stomach pain for a couple of weeks. After that, my vomiting phobia has gotten worse and worse. Coupled with my OCD, it got to the point where I actually had to be hospitalized against my will. Although things have gotten better, it is still a constant worry. Going back to the original trope, it happens quite often in everyday life. I am fine with blood, guts, needles, almost anything except for germs and vomiting. ** One of this troper's friend is emetophobic and suffers from the same kind of vicious cycle - when she starts worrying about being sick, her stomach clenches, which make her think she's going to be sick, etc. She also doesn't drink alcohol because she's convinced it'll make her throw up. ** [[Tropers.MrsJackRyan This troper]] is also SEVERELY emetophobic...only with me it bothers me less when I have to vomit myself...I can just close my eyes and suffer through. What really bothers me is seeing SOMEONE ELSE vomit. If I see someone else get sick, I'll scream and burst into tears, and on one occasion I actually fainted. This also made me really anxious about seeing live action movies...I live in constant fear that one will contain a [[VomitIndescretionShot Vomit Indescretion Shot]]... ** Same thing with this troper, full stop. She just wishes that she could avoid it, like people who are afraid of snakes are able to avoid places where they may be. But no, it has to be something completely up to chance. * This troper is dealdy afraid of heights, hence [[HilarityEnsues hilarity ensued]] when his mom had him get up on a ladder to switch a lamp. -->'''Troper's Mom:''' ''Hahaha, I still can't believe you're afraid of height!'' -->'''Troper:''' ''I'm not afraid, okay!? I'm just... Uncomfortable, that's all. I'll take a deep breath, deal with it and-'' -->'''Troper's Mom:''' ''* Shakes ladder slightly* '' -->'''Troper:''' ''PISS MYSELF IN FEAR!!!'' * Driving is nightmare fuel. This troper didn't think it was cool...this troper is 20 and is up late afraid about his driver's test the very next morning. Quite a bit of his childhood nightmares involve him behind the wheel of a car or witnessing a car accident. There's a ''very'' good reason he had to be ''coaxed'' into the driver's seat when he was 15 and after enough backseat driving from not one but ''both'' his parents, pulled over and jumped into the backseat and couldn't be convinced to drive for another 5 years. It also doesn't help that I paid attention during Driver's Ed's ScareEmStraight videos showing people being crushed underneath hummers that ''drove off the bridge'', spinning out of control, driving so fast they cause a 10 car pileup....Then said "This '''WILL''' happen to you. Do NOT panic." You don't want me to panic?! You just caused me a new generation of nightmares solely dedicated to psychotic hummers and Homicidal Lamborghinis with me behind the wheel!!! When's the next bus?! ** [[@/TheOtakuNinja This Troper]] whole-heartedly agrees. Despite my parents trying to push me into it, ''I WILL NOT DRIVE''. Maybe I watch too much TV, but I can't help but think there are too many idiots on

the road... * This troper hates walking into the bathroom at night without turning the light on. Why? Two reasons: one, if the shower curtain was left closed, the idea of something horrible lurking behind it quickly manifests; two, the idea of catching sight of her reflection in the bathroom mirror is damn creepy, too. ** For that matter, mirrors in general are creepy in the dark. Ever look at your reflection for an extended period in the dark without blinking? You'll see some weird little movements start to happen, and it's especially bad if your eyes are really dark in color. ** This troper dislikes mirrors due to a small quirk that has been occuring since childhood. Almost everytime I look in the mirror, I get this small heartskip that is caused by a mix of excitement or fear. Hard to tell why but I seem to be expecting/afraid of seeing ''something else'' instead of my own reflection. No idea what but every time I look in the mirror, it is a mix of fear (what if I finally see ''it''?) and relief that I am still looking at my familiar self. It all happens in a second but it almost always happens. *** MY GOD someone else actually does this too! I am not the only one! * Cries* ** I stayed overnight in a hotel once that had two full-length mirrors hung more or less at right angles to each other; one on the wall next to the TV and one on the wall next to the bed with maybe three feet of space in between them. The way they reflected each other made the reflection from either of look ''wrong,'' and like mentioned above, there's just something really creepy about mirrors after dark. I was almost ready to ask for another room, except for the fact they were probably that way in all the rooms and I'd feel stupid admitting to the clerk that the mirrors scared me ''that'' badly. ** This troper is afraid of mirrors for two reasons: One, fear of seeing something behind him, and two, fear of my reflection moving on its own. ** This troper hates mirrors because of paranoia of seeing my reflection move on it's own like the above troper and the whole it doesn't do anything just standing there doing [[{{Nothing is Scarier}} nothing]] * Ants. My god, ants. I know they're small and harmless, and just one doesn't bother me. But a march of ants, a swarm of ants...chills just thinking about it. I have to close my eyes to walk across them if they're blocking the sidewalk. More true to the trope, I'm in an occupation where I spend a lot of time in the wilderness, in a region populated by fire ants. Fun times. * Dogs are very unnerving. This troper grew up with a lot of friends and family members who had dogs who would bark and run at you whenever you rang the doorbell. Animals and people who run at me like that are scary in general, but dogs do it a little too much. * [[@/{{Raikage}} This troper]] is absolutely scared to death of insects, arachnids and pretty much anything of the creepy-crawlie variety. They scare the living crap out of me. Yes, even ''butterflies'' scare me....but only if they're close. If they're at a distance I'm okay with them. Tornadoes also freak me out......shudder- And if it's possible to have a fear of math.....I think I

have it..... * Anybody ever heard of Blobfish? This troper is scared to death of them. Give me a dozen Goddamn cobras over one of those things any day. * No one mentioned BARBIES!? This troper is dead scared of them! AnimeAnatomy anyone? * Theroachestheroachestheroachestheroaches... The worse part? [[@/{{Robbychu}} This troper]] lives in SOUTH CAROLINA. Which is FILLED. WITH. ''MOTHERFUCKING COCKROACHES''. Oh, pardon me, ''palmetto bugs''. She can't even pick the dead ones off the floor... * shudder* ** Oh, thank god, I'm not alone. This Troper lives in Florida, and her friends find her irrational fear of roaches NOTORIOUSLY funny to exploit. Especially when she stays over, what movie do they ALWAYS play? {{Men in Black}} with Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. Yes, the one where Agent Kay gets SWALLOWED BY A GIANT SPACE ROACH. * [[@/{{Gizbit99}} This Troper]] is a complete and total friggin' wimp. He is afraid of spiders (though getting over it; however, extreme closeups still cause him to flee in terror), he's scared of heights (though enjoys the sensation of falling- it's the landing that scares him), sharp objects (what is I HURT someone with this knife? What if I hurt '''ME!?'''), dogs (even ''he'' thinks that one is ridiculous), darkness (OMFGWHATWHASTHATTHATJUSTMOVEDISITGONNAHURTME??), moving at high speeds (WEREGONNACRASHWEREGONNACRASHWEREGONNACRASH), and gets somewhat squeamish when he sees something bleeding (though blood itself is fine). * @/{{dotchan}} has irrational fears of: ** Being Trapped in a Small, Dark Space (specifically, being suffocated; ironically, small, dark spaces that aren't deathtraps are a source of comfort) ** Blades (specifically, thin ones; [=BFSes=] are sufficiently large and cool looking) ** Falling (heights don't bother her as long as she's not worried about falling) ** Insects (the creepy crawly motion, the thin, needle like legs, and they're icky) - Cockroaches and Spiders are on top of the list. Sufficiently pretty looking ones (butterflies, ladybugs, etc.) get a pass. ** Needles (again, the longer, thinner, and pointier, the worse it is, and it's not even getting poked by one that scares her, just the idea of it) * [[@/LordDemala I]] am afraid of insects (I'm most afraid of spiders, cockroaches, and bees (I don't like being stung)), [[AfraidOfNeedles needles]] (especially shots. * shudders* ), and darkness (though that fear has dwindled a bit) * Heights. 10m or under is okay. 10m to 15m and this troper starts to feel a nervous and will move slowly and grab anything within reach. Anything above 15m will send her into HUGE panic attacks and she will start to hyperventilate and cry for all she's worth. It honestly feels like she is going to DIE A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE DEATH. * As a child, I had such a low tolerance for violence that I couldn't watch PowerRangers. Frickin' PowerRangers! I'm pretty sure this was caused by being born into a family that was absolutely plagued by

domestic violence. I'm not sure if this actually happened since it was before I developed a long-term memory, but if what several people in my family say is true, my biological father often beat my mother in front of me and when it stopped outwardly effecting her, he punished her by hitting me. ** At the same point in my life, I was suffering from what I now know to be post traumatic stress disorder; and while I didn't believe in ghosts or monsters or anything like that, I still just couldn't shake the feeling that some unknown threat was lurking in the shadows waiting for an opprtunity to kill me. The anxiety was so severe that almost anything could reduce me to tears, and I often wet the bed and even peed my pants during the day; it was psychological rather that directly fear-induced, but I still couldn't controll it. It didn't help that I had plenty of real threats to worry about: the afforementioned domestic voilence, as well as getting constantly yelled at, called names like 'useless' and 'bitch', getting locked in my room, grounded for literally months at a time and being forced to stand in the corner for at least an hour, but often more (my sister holds the record at eight hours) for such offences as bickering with my sister, getting a bad report card, playing in puddles at reccess, and being incontinent (though to be fair, this was after medical problems were ruled out. My sister and I also had to deal with threats of my step-father (the more abusive of the two)walking out on us if out 'bad behavior' continued; and of being sent to a foster home which, as a rule, had at least one pedophile each (their words, not mine) if we told anyone, which no doubt helped me develop all my phobias related to intimacy and social settings. My anxiety disorder came to a head when I was seven or eight years old and my class celebrated the end of the school year by watching JurassicPark, which terrified me so deeply that, even though I knew dinosaurs didn't exist, I was still too paranoid at the prospect of getting eaten by a T-rex to care about my usual paraniod delusions; and when the attacks didn't happen and my suconcious finally settled down, I finally got over my paranoia and even stopped freaking out over violence and peeing myself. ** I've been known to get some nasty stage fright; it's kind of a viscious cycle: I get so nervous that I stutter, fidget, avoid eye contact, and basically act like a dweeb, which makes me more nervous and my behavior worse. This one time in high school, I had to give an impromptu report in front of a class where the only students I knew bullied me in elementary school and my anxiety gradually got to the point that my whole body was shaking, my heartbeat was faster than it had ever been, I felt light-headed, I was sweating, fidgeting, staring at the floor, stuttering, and every muscle I had became so weak it gave me more trouble speaking, just standing there tired my legs out, and I honest to God thought I would pee my pants; even so, I managed to blunder through my report and return to my desk clean and fully concious. After that some students gave me sympathetic looks and someone even remarked on my courage, so they didn't seem as intimidating before that. Too bad my phobia of public speaking is worse now that I'd have to worry about peeing my pants on stage, if I can bring myself to try it again.

* I used to be terrified of being more than three feet off the ground and steep stairs. It's more medical vertigo now though... Also I hate spiders, oddly enough, I'm perfectly fine with bigger ones. It might have something to do with the fact that I know where a big one is at all times and that the most venomous spiders are actually on the smaller side... * [[@/{{Ozimul}} This troper]] hates clowns. It's all Joker's fault, really. She is also squeamish when it comes to surgeries (funny, really, that she can watch Hellsing Ultimate and only be mildly disturbed, but come episode ten of the Gonzo anime and she can barely keep concsious...) * This troper wasn't afraid of anything, until turning 13. At which point, it became ridiculous. I'm not/wasnt afraid of any one thing. Its more fear of fear itself (ha ha). But, I used to be so afraid of needles in particular I'd both scream and fight, or faint. Fortunately, I seem to be growing out of that ... And am now afraid not of killing spiders. Any sort of bug, I really can't kill them. Yes, you heard that right. I hate most of the little buggers, but I can't force myself to, and will go to great horrible lengths to ensure that I don't have to. It's a long story (sort've), but killing them became my own personal nightmare fuel. * Centipedes. Dear god the centipedes. They just look so weird and they can see you coming and HOLY SHIT IT'S MOVING WHY CAN IT RUN SO FAST FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK!!! Not to mention that they keep appearing in the middle of the night, in my bedroom, where I'm supposed to be safe... * Mushrooms. That is all. ... No seriously, they're so creepy, and they killed {{Babar}}'s mother! ** I thought it was his father. Still, a terrible moment. * Dogs. I had a nightmare about dogs when I was a child. Ever since then, I've been terrified of dogs; it's probably at a mild phobia level. * This troper is so afraid of bugs (six-legged, eight-legged, and a bajillion-legged bugs), that games with oversized versions of said bugs will make me stop playing the game, or give me nightmares. * Asides from the pretty common fear of insects and spiders (which extends to scorpions, crabs, lobsters... perhaps a fear of exoskeletons?) this troper is terrified of drowning in the ocean. Despite being an excellent swimmer and fine in pools and lakes, the idea of being knocked over by a wave and never coming back up is a recurring nightmare. * Zombies. God, I ''hate'' zombies. What's dead should stay dead. Also, dead bodies in general. So creepy. * [[@/NotSoBadassLongcoat This troper]] is afraid of spiders. He also freaks out at the sight of cockroaches, but more of a paranoid BerserkButton way. His Blue Oni friend is afraid of dogs... Which doesn't stop her from petting her boyfriend's akita inu (a big, fluffy white dog, used for [[EverythingIsWorseWithBears HUNTING BEARS]] in Japan). * This troper cannot stand two things: loud noises, since my ears are rather sensitive, and dogs, especially those who bark at every little thing.

* [[@/IronScope Me]]? Dogs. Dogs dogs dogs. '''I don't give a shit if you say it's harmless/friendly.''' '''''I AM NOT GOING TO LET THAT THING GET NEAR ME IF I CAN HELP IT AT ALL.''''' Also, small solid objects flying around at head height. Like tennis balls, stuff like that. * Beta Maxis here. I do not like blood. AT ALL. Fake blood I can handle, but God help me if it shows up on MY end of a tv/computer screen. ** I'm also weird about bare feet. I think they're actually kind of cute on girls, especially with their toenails painted, but I will NOT touch them. I also wont show my own bare feet, sometimes not even in my house. * This troper has a fear of heights. It's not too bad, he just gets antsy being on high bridges, on roofs or near windows on upper floors of tall buildings, etc. But then there was one time when he volunteered to be a test subject for a virtual reality system being developed by his university's engineering school. Halfway through the test, this troper found himself in a virtual room with a 25-foot drop below a narrow bridge about a foot wide that he was supposed to walk across, and it was realistic enough to terrify him. After it was over, the experimenters showed him a graph of his galvanic skin response over the course of the test, and there was a gigantic spike during the narrow-bridge portion. This troper would still do it again in an instant, though. * This troper has irrational fear of vomiting (emetophobia), loud noises (ligyrophobia), and is unconsciously jumpy around dogs. BANG! Hlorff! Woof! AAAARRGGHH! They're getting milder over time, though. * This troper is afraid of worms because he finds them extremely disgusting. He never, ever touched a worm or a maggot and can spot them from metres away. He's even afraid of earth as well as flys because of this. His fear of worms got much better in recent years, but he still wouldn't touch them. * [[@/MmmKay This troper]] has a fear of microscopic imagery, like the electron microscope kind. G'ICK!! They give me the creeps horribly. ''The texture...'' * For this troper, it's mostly snakes. Although she has got a thing about dead stuff. Once, she had to pick up a recently-deceased cockroach. Despite using a napkin to pick it up in, cue shrieking of "EWWWWWWWW!" and spriting to the trash can to toss that thing. * This troper is terrified of heights. No, not being in a high place (though I'm also terrified of that), I mean I am literally terrified when looking at tall buildings. I have no idea why. * Two things: I only get moderately nervous in enclosed spaces (I don't think there are many people who are totally sanguine in an [=MRI=] machine...), but I ''cannot'' have my hands restrained. My brother came up behind me once when we were kids and grabbed my wrists from behind. This got him rammed backwards into the wall. The other thing: Even though the guidance counselor recommended nursing school among my options, I turned it down. I can build a computer out of a pile of parts, but give me various fluids coming out of ''people''? Forget it. It's not even hemophobia (blood), it's all the other stuff! Cue the reverse peristalsis. I think I was a [[TransformersAnimated

Cybertronian]] in a previous life. * I like to think i'm moderatly brave. I handle violence well. Heights don't bother me. I find spiders, bats, and rats adorable in a sort of Pug Ugly fashion. As far as fears go, i tend to think mine are fairly rational. I'm terrified of dying to the point that trying to imagine what it would be like honestly makes me feel like crying like a small child, for example. Don't talk to me about Slugs or Snails, though. I cannot stand being near them, and will be rendered into a pottymouthed pansy that would probebly be whimpering, were it possible to do so given my vocal range. They're disgusting, ugly, their slow speed only adds to the meanece and oh ye gods NO JUST NO. The sad part is i have no idea at all where the phobia comes from in the first place. Months bother me, as well, though i do have a good reason for this one; in summer, i like to leave my bedroom window open to let in a little fresh air. Unfortunetly for me, my nightly ritual involves watching TV until i collapse, and sometimes forget to turn my bedside lamp off before letting the sandman make me his bitch for the evening. I would usually wake up with moths sitting on my TV screen, my lampshade, or my FACE. The worst one being one time a few years back, when i was roused from my sleep in the middle of the night by the fluttering of 3 moths simply refusing to settle down and going batshit under my covers. Totally didn't help at the time my bedclothes consisted of boxer shorts and just that. Brr. * This troper has tokophobia. That's right, FEAR OF PREGNANCY/CHILD BIRTH! Sometimes I can't sleep at night, I have visions, it makes me want to vomit and I feel horribly ill and seeing/touching a pregnant belly is disgustingly unatural to me. * This troper is scared of spiders for several reasons. One is the legs. Nothing should have eight legs so well placed. Another is the fact that some spiders are hairy. And fucking enormous. That freaks me out [[{{Understatement}} quite a bit.]] The last reason? This troper's sense of touch is very sensitive, and the mere thought of a spider walking over my arm with those ''eight fucking legs'' absolutely terrifies me. * Hippos. They're big blubbery things that KILL MORE HUMANS THAN ANY CARNIVORE ON EARTH. I once visited a zoo where they had an 'underwater observation' exhibit for the hippos. I was 8, and, being naturally curious, went up and pressed my face against the glass to see better. Cue hippo coming up from below, opening it's ''peg-toothed mouth wider than I was tall'' and '''''gnawing on the glass in an attempt to eat me'''''. Since that day, I can't look at a picture of a hippo, a video with a hippo in it, or even a hippo stuffed animal. A part of me died when I found out they had invented [[{{Pokemon}} Hippopotas]]. ** I was ''terrified'' of hippos when I was small. I had a rhyming alphabet book about animals, in which "H is for hippos: when they get mad, they wreck boats," with a picture of a hippo looming up out of the water with its mouth open wide. I spent my entire visit to Disney World terrified not just of going ''on'' the Jungle River ride but of going ''anywhere near'' the Jungle River ride because of the hippo that does indeed attack the boat. Also our local pool was built up out of an old quarry. Except for the kiddie pool, it looks pretty much like a big lake. I wouldn't go any deeper into the main pool than I

could walk, because it looked too much to me like the rocky pool in the hippo exhibit at the zoo and ergo, I was sure there were hippos out in the deep end. ** I am also scared (though not quite as badly) of possums, baboons, roaches, crickets, swinging bridges, and mirrors in a dark room. And the underbellies of horseshoe crabs. Not horseshoe crabs in general... just their underbellies. ** And on a random note, I find Platypuses to be one of the more adorable deadly creatures in the world... * Since I have a lot of cuts and broken fingernails, I am not scare of blood, but I recently charactered a alien superhero who dressed like an angel for a solo Cartoon Action Hour game who has a weakness to blood--but that give me the logical idea to bring in the usual "can't kill lie" from the SliverAge. * I'm deathly afraid of parasites, particularly ticks. My sister is studying entomology in grad school and working on a research project about... you guessed it! Ticks. * I'm 15 Years old, 1.85 mtrs tall and weigh 95 kilos, I'm not afraid of any kind of animals or thugs, hell, friends ask me to come with them when they are afraid of something... But there's one thing I found absolutely terryfing... I'm scared of the darkness. When I'm in pitch-black darkness, I panic , and desperately start looking for something that shines. WHAT. THE. FUCK. * [[@/{{PuppyLuver}} This troper]] is TERRIFIED of spiders, but only real or realistic-looking ones. She can handle [[{{Pokemon}} Spinarak, Ariados]] and [[{{NightsIntoDreams}} Queen Bella]] just fine...just don't make her watch the [[{{HarryPotter}} Aragog]] scene. OH GOOOOOODDD. While this troper is one of the nicest people she knows(albeit a tad reluctant to interact with people on her own, more willing to let them start a conversation), she becomes a raging fiend when a live spider is present, stomping it into the ground [[NoKillLikeOverkill WAY more times than necessary]] screaming [[MadnessMantra DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!]] Also, overexaggeration of facial expressions in cartoons, such as eyes leaping out of the skull in surprise WITH THE OPTIC NERVE ATTACHED, has left her afraid of [[EyeScream anything at all going near her eyes]] unless she's the one putting it there in the first place. (Coraline did absolutely NOTHING to help with this fear.) She also does not like the dark, especially when she is home alone, though darkness is not a problem when there's snow on the ground. * This troper is fine with spiders (they're [[{{Ugly Cute}} kinda cute...]]) but can't stand Daddy-Long legs. She's also got a sorta irrational fear of apples, after having gone to an apple orchard, and eating one of the apples for lunch, and seeing oh what's this? There's a hole in that seedOH GOD IT'S A GINORMOUS WORM-MAGGOT THING GET IT AWAY GET IT AWAY. Oh, and also leeches. One time, I was hiking, and saw a nice lake. I decided to jump in, and got close to a calmer part, away from the waterfall. I pulled my hand out, and there's a black thing on it. So, I put my hand back in the water to wash it off and HOLY CRAP WHY ARE THERE NOW LIKE TEN OF THOSE. That's also when I developed an irrational fear of swimming in places that are not publically-regulated pools. Oh, and bees. AGH.

* This troper has a particularly bizarre fear. Ready to hear it? Ketchup. Yes, ketchup. Just smelling it can almost make me throw up and if I see it anywhere near me or somehow get some on me, I'll have a full-out panic attack. * [[@/Callahan This troper]] is phobic of broken or dislocated bones (among other things) and is getting over her fear of crossing streets. Crossing streets is an extension of the dislocation phobia. It's really not as irrational as it sounds (first person now): ** The dislocated bone thing comes from having the same injury over fifty times. Dislocated kneecaps, to be specific. As for crossing streets... When I was thirteen, I was on my way home from a friend's house, crossing a street, when my right kneecap dislocated to the outer side of my leg. That, and dragging myself home afterward while hoping not to get hit by a car, [[Understatement made a rather lasting impression on me]]. * This troper hate spiders. Small ones aren't a problem, but big ones? Nuh-uh. Strangely enough, this troper plays ResidentEvil and can handle the [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot zombie monkeys, zombie dogs and such]], but tends to go into a HeroicBSOD upon the giant spiders. * This female troper has a few fears, some of them being more standard then others. There's the usual drowning, clowns, falling, those kinds of fears. Then there's being caught outside in a thunder and lightning storm. Her strangest one, or what some people would probably consider her strangest fear: a fear of sex and/or childbirth (mostly sex, though). It's not just a fear, either, but a beserk button, as a guy once said to her (when she was 11, no less!) that the only reason women have a reason/purpose to exist was to have his and another man's babies, and that other then that, they were useless and completely below men. She doesn't like being around dangerous chemicals or sharp objects either, only because she has a very strong compulsion to hurt herself whenever she's around anything sharp or hot. Oh...and...erm, she also has a rather severe social phobia. This troper is a little bit messed up in the head, why ask? * @/{{Scrounge}} does not like [[FeatheredFiend birds]]. At all. It's more an irrational hatred than a fear, though, if only because the nearby birds don't tend to show up in Hitchcock-esque numbers or come any larger than sparrow-sized. He will not go near birds in pet stores... The noise makes him very uncomfortable. Any actual birds of prey are right out... Won't even get close enough to ''see'' the damn thing if he can help it. * For some reason, This Troper is terrified of heights, even though he climbs as one of his hobbies. [[{{not making this up disclaimer}} I shit you not.]] I also don't like red things (although I've got a lot better since I was seven), thanks to a small joke of my dad's while cycling. As a side note, [[Series/DoctorWho don't say a statue just moved, even in jest. I will probably kill you in my determination to get out of the area.]] ** I've just realised that I've got two other fears which I failed to mention: spiders (I really shouldn't have flicked through that book on poisonus spiders when I was young: I've got a lot better about this one thanks to playing The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the Ring video game, as daft as it sounds) and anything which flies and is an

insect. Probably stems from the fact I was stung by a bee on the neck when I was six. Recently (as of April), this troper's stepmother had to remove a wasp from my bedroom which was too far away for me to reach because I'd left the window open and it was on the window. And a second one was still in the room for two days before I found it dead under my accordion. * This troper loves bugs. She thinks spiders are cute and cuddly, plays with bees (and miraculously has never been stung by one), and thinks cicadas are pure awesome. Doesn't stop her from being absolutely terrifies of cockroaches, especially dead ones. At my summer camp, I was usually the one called on to deal with any sort of insect problem, since I could be trusted to take daddy long-legs and eight-inch centipedes out side without freaking out. The exception? I was once called in to deal with something in the bathroom, but ran out screaming when it turned out to be a roach. Another time, a dead cockroach was on the desk next to mine when I walked into history class. I immediately backed away to the nearest corner... which just happened to be the one containing the trash cans. So when a particularly brave (and, in this troper's oppinion, probably insane) student picked it up by one of the legs and carrying toward the trash with the rest of the class cheering her on, this troper screamed, dropped everything she was holding, and nearly collapsed. She's hated that class ever since. * This troper does not like snakes. Really. I scream, I cry, I hyperventelate. I cannot be anywere near snakes without going pale and shaking. One one of my first days at my current (and last as of June) high school, a friend and I walked into the girl's washroom to find two girls talking, one just so happened to holding a snake. My friend and I quickly walked out before I could cause a scene. Thank God I live in a city; chances of me running into a snake in the wild in an urban setting is pretty slim. * This troper has a strange phobia of aquatic creatures. She can't look at a picture of a fish without almost fainting. ** Seriously? I thought I was the only one! Once, when my little brother gave me a bag with a fish in it I screamed and dropped it. * I'm afraid of basement windows. Regular windows at night scare me-you can't tell what might be looking back in at you, and part of me always half-expects to see something strange behind me in the reflection on the glass--but those little half-sized ones at the top of the basement wall freak me out even during the day. I always expect to see something looking down in at me. Probably goes back to when {{Poltergeist}} was out in theaters and some idiot scheduled a trailer for it in the middle of afternoon cartoons. So I'm seven years old, watching DuckTales, and all of a sudden BAM, I'm watching that scene from Poltergeist sees himself age and rotting the mirror. Because it was so sudden and I didn't know what I was looking at, I interpreted it as something looking in a little window at him. ** Then of course, basements in general make me nervous. Even when they're finished, they tend be all dank and musty and spooky. The one in my parents' house would pretty much have to be on fire to get me to go down there after dark. * I'm not anymore, but as a small child I was scared out of my mind by

those robotic dinosaurs that went on display at museums starting in the 1980s. At four years old I planned to be a paleontologist when I grew up, and I was a very serious, logical child. I knew for damn sure that they were all dead, so a whole room of large, roaring, lurching dinosaurs Could Not Be. Clearly the only reason they could be there was to eat me. Just seeing one sent me into such a panic that there was nothing in my head except to get away from them as fast as I could. I mostly got over it as a young teen. But when I saw a display of them at the local mall a few years ago and stopped to admire how much prettier and more realistic they were than when I was a kid, the allosaur I was standing next to darted its eye to look right straight at me. And even knowing full well that it was a harmless robot, I still sort of squeaked and jumped back from the railing. * I'm afraid of ghosts. There's nothing where I live now, but I grew up in a house with at least two, I lived in a dorm that was campusfamous for being haunted during college (and between three and five different ghosts), and I still have to house sit for my parents, whose house has as many as four. I've seen them, I've heard them, I've felt them touch my arms and hair. I ought to be used to them by now, but they just scare me half to death. I'm friends with lots of hippie types who tell me "oh, just tell it to leave you alone and it won't hurt you," but I just freeze up whenever I have the feeling that I'm not quite alone by myself. I love old houses, but I could never rent/buy one; the thought of what might still be there scares me too much. ** Likewise, zombies terrify me. Just looking at pictures of them makes me nervous. Ninety seconds of 28DaysLater that I saw by accident on TV gave me a mild panic attack at the time and kept me from sleeping for days. Seriously, the zombies in the fricking ''{{Thriller}} video'' scare me enough that I turn it off when they stop dancing. Phobia of dead things + highly squeamish about violent gore/human suffering + too high strung too enjoy imagining the world coming to a horrible end = I can't even imagine what's supposed to be fun about a ZombieApocalypse or why the Internet thinks they're awesome. *** Well, if it helps at all [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html Cracked]][[http://www.cracked.com/article/136_5-reasons-you-secretlywant-zombie-apocalypse/ .com]] has two fairly engaging articles on the subject. * This troper is ranidaphobic, yes i'm afraid of frogs and toads they scare the hell out of me since im a kid,im not afraid of snakes, spiders or even scorpions but i can't stand toads or frogs i'm brazilian and there few places here where you cant find them. Its like playing the phobia level of the game of life in the hardest setting. The worse of all is that when i'm on a trip or when they invade my house i am the one who always notice their presence. Why did Had to be Frogs? ** this troper has a similer experience only much less severe living in texas. I don't go out at night, not out of fear of murderers or something like that but because every goddamn frog is nocturnal. My family thinks i'm crazy and always get on me from running from little

frog. Though this troper is fine with snakes and even fucking alligators (utill they try to kill me of course)lizards also scare the shit out of me. i always worry they will crawl in through holes since that actually happened to me before. Several times. And my grendma has holes in her bathroom shower so every time i go in I worry a lizard will crawl out. ** The same brazilian troper from above is here again just to tell you my friend, that i am not afraid of geckos and lizards for one reason and one reason only: the run from you when they notice your presence! Theres a little yellow gecko that loves coming into my house and barricade himself under the kitchen sink, he's usually outside at night and when he notices me, he runs. But the friggin small frogs keep scaring me, they're my worst nightmare! The only thing im glad for is that i dont live with my parents who have a garden that works like a resort for those pests. At least you live in Texas, could be worse like.. Florida Everglades.... * I'm deathly afraid of three things, two of which sound bizarre out of context and one of which is purely psycological - I'm scared of escalators, my own knees, and failure. Escalators I'm terrified of (although I've gotten better in recent years, give me the option and I'll take the non-moving-grinding-teeth-bearing stairs, thanks) because I fell down one when I was very, very little - about three or four. According to my parents, I 'only' slipped down a couple of steps on the 'down' escalator, but all I can remember was being in pain and the groud carrying me AWAY from mama, who was trying to reach out and grab me back. Escalators are evil. ** The second fear needs a little more explanation - due to dyspraxia, the ligament/muscle that holds my kneecap in place has always been poorly developed, and it only takes a little jolt for it to slip. Usually, my kneecap just pops out and I can pop it back into place without too much trouble, but if it twists and rips muscle in the right angle... I've been in cast for what my doctors call 'true' dislocations thrice, and even the mild ones hurt like a mother. I can just be walking along, perfectly normally, and then suddenly my leg twists and buckles and there's PAINPAINPAIN... I wear support bandages if I need to walk anywhere, more for my sanity than anything else. ** Failure... well, no-one likes failing, right? Compared to my brother, I really fail at things that are sociologically important to my subconcious... having friends, a social life, remote understanding of things like numbers (I'm dyscalculate) and politics (my idea of which is screaming at someone until they back off) etc. It's gotten to the point where I just CAN'T try unless it's something where it doesn't matter, or that I know there's a higher chance of me succeeding. I HATE failing. I feel like I do it too often. * [[@/PentiumMMX2 This troper]] has had many fears as a kid, although the most noteworthy was of BodyHorror. It all began when, during Vacation Bible School at his church ages ago, he got stuck in the Special Needs class (Because I wasn't being loug and obnoxious like the other boys in my class); where one of the teachers happened to have Down Syndrome. At the time this happened, I didn't know such a thing existed, so when I saw this inhuman creature who was only

capible of speaking in grunts because of her misshapen jaw, I had an urge to run and hide somewhere from the living, breathing NightmareFuel that was in that room; seriously, [[TheLegendOfZelda Redeads]] and [[VideoGame/SuperMario64 that damned piano in Big Boo's Haunt]] are nothing compared to that. * Squids... I-I can't STAND them!!"shivers uncontrollably" ** Same troper as above, I think I hate all cephalopods equally to round it out. * Bugs in general for this [[Tropers.{{Gundamgaogaigar}} troper]]. But especially roaches. Dear God... His stepdad is afraid of the big ones, too. * This Troper has a phobia of ''fruits''. Particularly bananas. I win. * This troper has quite a few phobias ** she is deathly afraid of bees/wasps/hornets/what have you. Justified in that she is allergic to their stings-something she found out the hard way, no less. ** she doesn't mind darkness/silence themselves, but any small light (like a red standby light or small clock display) in otherwise pitch darkness or [[HellIsThatNoise any small, unexplained sound]] in otherwise complete silence gives her the creeps. ** Pyrophobia/fear of flames, after a overheating furnace came close to catching her relatives' house on fire, she had continuous nightmares about flames. this troper's heat sensitivity doesn't help * This troper is intensely claustrophobic. Specifically, I'm afraid of being confined by anything. Be it small spaces, being tied up, etc. I'm probably more afraid of losing my freedom. Jails and mental hospitals provoke instantaneous panic attacks. Probably comes from stuff that happened to me in school. I was in a special class where the typical punishment was being locked in a carpet-walled closet that was about four feet by four feet. I already had anxiety about closedin spaces. Sometimes, they'd get at least two teachers in there to restrain me with a basket hold, which involves crossing the arms over the torso and pulling them back from behind. Never mind that restraining an autistic person is not a good idea, but there have been reports of children dying from this restraint technique. These days if anyone even touches my wrists, I flip out. * This troper, for one, has a pretty big problem with this. In no particular order, I'm terrified of: bugs, ovens, darkness, closed in spaces, being alone in large places, and venus fly traps. * This troper is terrified of large, furry, moving things. Large dogs make her heart race, and don't even get her ''started'' on fursuits. If she were to ever go to a furry convention, the amount of fursuits would reduce her to a fearful, blubbering mess. * This troper has held snakes before. This troper isn't scared of bees. This troper will do almost anything besides eating something if someone asked her to. But she swears, if she sees a ** Spider ** Cockroach ** Or a Canadian goose (My brother got them to attack us one summer at a lake) *** She WILL use anyone or everyone as a meat shield. * This troper cannot for the life of him stand ''cows''. They might be

the dumbest, laziest animals under the sun, but that still doesn't change the fact that they're fucking huge. More seriously though, he can sometimes be prone to kind of severe bouts of paranoia. Especially when he's alone and his brain manages to convince him he's ''not''. On more than one occasion when he was younger he literally snuck in his socks through the halls of his parents' silent empty house armed with a kitchen knife, ready to spring on whatever was hiding ''just behind that door''. * After a tree fell on her house during a storm, this troper developed an extremely irrantional fear of clouds. It lasted about a year before she moved on to sunshine. * This troper is extremely, and completely irrationally, afraid of ''ferris wheels''. Something to do with the utter lack of control and the rocking of the car that makes it feel like the car could fall to the ground at any moment. Said troper will also panic upon finding herself driving in front of an 18-wheeler (though she blames [[{{Film/Duel}} Steven Spielberg]] for that phobia). * This troper dislikes heights... and depths. Sometimes. If he's standing on something totally solid, he's fine. Twenty floors up in a building? ...I'll just be making my way back down, thank you. Similarly, caves and basements aren't good, because he can't stop himself from visualising the roof collapsing. For some reason, there's very little else he's actually scared of - but since noone in his family actually BELIEVES how scared he is of those two things, they keep trying to put him in situations involving them. Without telling him first. * Staying true to the trope title, this troper is completely, horrifically afraid of snakes. To the point of breaking down into tears when faced with a picture of one. She's getting queasy just thinking about it. :/ * I have a few phobias, including the dark, ocular mutilation, and being alone. My most irrational fear, however, is phallainophobia- the fear of whales. It's just... They're HUGE. I think they're cool and I don't want them to go extinct, but if I saw a real whale I would have a heart attack. This wouldn't be a big deal except for the time my class [[HorribleCampingTrip WENT ON A WHALE-WATCHING TRIP.]] I didn't want to go, but I did anyway since everyone else was going and I didn't want to look like a wimp. We didn't actually see any, thank God, but I was very freaked out anyway. (This was in 8th grade, by the way.) I also have a fear of the insides of my wrists getting cut to the point that if you so much as TOUCH that part of my body I will freak out and may slap you. AND, due to my overly sensitive ears, loud noises scare me really badly. ** This troper sympathsizes with you on the wrist phobia thing. I can't even touch the insides of my wrists, and rubbing them together to apply perfume freaks me out. (Luckily, I don't wear perfume much.) * I was playing DragonAge the other day, and got to Redcliffe. That overdressed fop started going on about beasties attacking the town. I said to myself; "They'd better not be zombies". "Walking Dead!" "Fuck you, I'm leaving." * I have a phobia of eating ''swiss roll'', as in the jam and sponge pudding. I seriously wish I was kidding. I also can't sleep in a

completely dark room and get incredibly edgy on stairs, especially spiral staircases. I actually started majorly freaking out on a school trip as a result (dark spiral staircases with sparse hand rails are really not good). * [[{{Tropers.Pinata}} This troper]] has a phobia of [[{{Yandere}} Yanderes]]. Since he [[EthicalSlut doesn't believe in monogamy]] and has seen ''[[{{Audition}} Audition]]'', this is perfectly justified. * This runs rampant on my father's side of the family. My father is deathly afraid of snakes, I'm terrified of spiders and water, my younger sister is afraid of any type of bug that can fly, one of my cousins can't stand even the sight of needles, my other cousin is afraid of heights, and we're all afraid of sudden loud noises. * [[{{Tropers/Bailoroc}} This troper]] is afraid of two things: clowns and mascot costumes, especially fur suits. No, I'm not making this up. * I am veary afraid of(i'm not kidding)abnormally large animals and heights * I pretended to be scared of cards to avoid playing poker once. It worked, but it's because they were five year olds. * [[@/JusticeReaper I]] hate RATS. I hate the very sight of them, and am always terrified of the idea of them crawling on me or biting me (it hasn't actually happened yet, but the [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel various nightmares I've had about it happening]] are enough to have me ProperlyParanoid). Spiders? I'll brush them off without much concern. Lizards? I'm not scared of the sight of them, though the idea of touching them is kind of [[{{Squick}} icky]] to me. But rats? No no no no no no no no no no no. I can't abide being in the same space as a rat; I'm more inclined to run the hell out of the room if I see even a hint of a rat's tail. And the worst part of it? Two things: knowing that my fear is legitimate as rats carry disease and contaminate just about anywhere they go, and that I live with a JerkAss of a father who has often ridiculed me over my musophobia (the clinical name for the fear). * Leeches. Oh God, Leeches, I have no idea why, though. And parasites that can get inside you. The thought of something I can't see to fight scares me. But my favorite animal is a snake, and there's nothing I love more than heights. * Spiders and Horses. As a zoologist I'm fine with scorpians, all manner of creepy crawlies and theing that could kill you, but spiders and horses scare the beejesus out of me..penguins too to a lesser extent. Also escalators. Although my biggest fear is I'll do something to my injured leg, the metal indide will come bursting out killing anyone within shrapnel range. but thats a different story. * This troper's ex boyfriend is afraid of snakes to the extent where he is also afraid of worms as, and I quote, "they look like baby snakes". * [[Tropers/TheGDude This troper]] will personally shit himself if he comes across a spider. How ironic that the big ones are less deadly than the ones you can barely see... * This troper's parents are more afraid of snakes than Indiana Jones. The mention of the word sends my dad into a panic. There is a reason I go off on my own at pet stores and zoos. This troper himself is afraid of wasps and spicy food but is fine with anything else.

* I have a deathly fear of dead things (no pun intended). Whether it is that rotting road kill on the street, a display of a skeleton (besides dinosaurs for some reason), or taxidermy, I will stay the hell away from it all. * This troper has a bizarre fear: Agoraphobia. Which is effectively the reverse of Claustrophobia. Yep, I have a fear of ''large spaces.'' Normally I just feel really dizzy and light-headed (and like the space is trying to tear apart my body) but if I have to spend any time in a large space and know I can't leave whenever I want, I ''will'' have a panic attack. Here's a cheerful list of things that trigger it: ** Stadiums. ** Cathedrals. ** Mountainscapes are this to an ''wonderful'' extreme. (I had a skiing holiday once, never again) ** Airports are my personal hell; I'm stuck waiting to check in for who knows how long and I can't leave the luggage unattended and there are NO small places, anywhere. ** Exam halls. ** Indoor swimming pools. ** Theatres. Although I get round this by regularly visiting my favourite ones so they stay familiar. ** I can also get it just by looking up at something big. ''Anything'' big. ** Looking up at the freaking ''stars'' at night. Space is big, really big. ** The funny thing is it took me a long time to figure out what triggered it, and I first discovered this by casually walking into cathedrals, which meant for the most of my childhood whenever I got this feeling I presumed God was taking some time out of his busy schedule to just plain mess with me. *** Whoa-ho! Well, [[@/TedAsanto I, here,]] don't necessarily fear all of the above but, I say... welcome to the club, son. * I REALLY hate static electricity. You know, when you touch metal and you get a shock? Millions would shrug it off, but me? OW OW OW OW! It feels like a scorpion sting! If not for the info that told me that touching metal with a key would let it absorb the shock and leave me feeling no pain, I would still be jumpier than ever! * Koumpounophobia- irrational fear of a certain type of clothing fastener ([[spoiler: buttons]] to be precise [spoilered because some koumpounophobics don't even like to ''read'' the word]). This troper has known some people with it, and by all accounts the severe cases are just awful. ** You would probably really hate {{Coraline}}, then... * This troper's personal worst fear is nyctophobia- not because the dark directly scares him, but because it acts as a canvas for the more... poisonous areas of his imagination to paint on. Every time he enters a darkened room, it feels like everything horrifying he can imagine is there, silently slinking about, just barely obscured by the shadows. It's vivid and consistent enough that he sometimes tries to guess what terrifying apparition will crop up next [[hottip:*: swarms of flesh-eating maggots at this troper's ankles are a perennial favorite, as is the ceiling-scurrying chitinous ''thing'' about to

take a bite out of the back of his head]]. * This Troper is afraid of wasps and other stinging insects, and she has a darn good reason for it. Once when I was seven (I think) years old and going to the store with my parents, a wasp flew into the car. I got afraid and tried to swat it away. This, however, only made it angry, making it sting me just a few millimetres from the eye. The skin was thin enough there to make it bleed. I can watch bees in glass cages though. I also have a minor case of aerophobia, though I'm not afraid of flying. * This troper is terrified of wasps and bees. Also, heights. I remember being on the top floor of a building (Inside, though), when I looked out the window at the ground below, I damn near had a heart attack. * [[@/{{Pastylover2}} This troper]] is ''petrified'' of crabs and lobsters. Just the way they look. * [[Tropers/RedWren Yo.]] One that someone will read something she didn't think about too hard and it will hang over the head for the rest of her life, resulting in some CannotSpitItOut moments. Why did it have to include personal conversations? She also has some more standard versions of this trope, but...see previous. * I really hate the dark. It's just - there could be ANYTHING in there. Murderers. Cannibals. Something watching me sleep (no, I haven't watched MarbleHornets). Inverted with a few things people find scary (jellyfish, lampreys). * This troper seemingly isn't afraid of anything. She'll watch any movie, read any book, anything. She's even known among her friends for being completely badass and not being scared to do anything. She actually does have two completely lame fears though. Haunted house rides, and hedgehogs. Yep. Of all things, hedgehogs. She does have childhood experiences that explain those fears, though, so at least they're not completely irrational... * I am really afraid of any animals under water. I love looking at them in an aquarium or a documentary or so, but I just get ''freaked out'' whenever something bumps into me while I'm in the water. That's also why I can't stand the sea. Tons and '''tons''' of jellyfish everywhere. ''*shudder*'' I'm also afraid of the darkness. While I really enjoy darkness in a familiar place (like my room), I can't stand it basically anywhere else. However, I really like both heights and enclosed spaces which is, I guess, atypical. * In my webcomic-to-be, one of the story arcs will be anime peoples taking over the world. One of the characters will yell out "ANIME PEOPLES?!? WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE ANIME PEOPLES?!? CAN'T IT JUST BE FROG THINGS INSTEAD?!?" * This troper has a fear of humans. Need I say more? ** You're afraid of humans. Something tells me YOU'RE not a human. Tell me what the fuck. (It would be preferred that you start your answer start with "The fuck is...") *** Believe it or not, I am a human. Mirrors terrify me. * [[@/ProgenyExMachina This troper]] is genuinely afraid of a surprising amount of things. Here's the list (as if anyone is ''that'' interested, haha): [[hottip:*:Note: this list only includes phobias that can be found on the Phobia List. Believe it or not, I have

''more''.]] ** Acrophobia (fear of heights): Even extends to bunk beds. Oddly enough, though, excludes high ropes. I ''love'' high ropes! :D ** Agoraphobia (fear of open spaces): Not quite a fear...more of a strong sense of discomfort and unease. ** Agraphobia (fear of sexual abuse): This is my absolute worst fear; not surprising considering it's kind of a PrimalFear. ** Alektorophobia (fear of chickens): I blame OcarinaOfTime. ** Androphobia (fear of men): Again, more of an immense discomfort than a paralyzing fear. ** Ankylophobia (fear of joint immobility): My mom and her mom both had arthritis by age 50; I don't plan to live that long, because arthritis ''really'' freaks me out. ** Anthrophobia (fear of flowers): This one is really weird...for as long as I can remember, I've always been heavily averse to even the image of one, or anything resembling one. ** Apiphobia (fear of bees): And wasps, etc. ** Arsonphobia (fear of fire): I can ''just'' barely bring myself to light candles. ** Bathophobia (fear of depths): Well, I can't exactly swim. ** Cynophobia (fear of dogs): Probably my very oldest phobia. I have a vague memory of my parents trying to break me of it when I was three. ** Enochlophobia (fear of crowds): Despite the fact that I ''love'' small spaces (I'm the very antithesis of a claustrophobe), I ''will'' have a panic attack if there are people on all sides of me instead of walls. ** Gymnophobia (fear of nudity): I hate naked bodies. I just can't stand looking at them. I also refuse to be nude. ** Haphephobia (fear of being touched): I also flinch if someone touches something that's near me, like the chair I'm sitting on. ** Herpetophobiaphobia (fear of creepy crawlies): Bugs, basically. ** Kolpophobia (fear of genitals): I will do anything to avoid seeing genitals (or boobs). ** Nosocomephobia (fear of hospitals): One of those fears that's more of a discomfort. Still...they're just so ''white''. It's creepy! ** Phallophobia (fear of male genitals): Because male private parts bother me more than female. ** Poinephobia (fear of punishment): This one pervades my life in a rather subtle fashion. ** Zoophobia (fear of animals): I can't go near the vast majority of animals. Domesticated cats are probably the sole exception, but only if they're declawed. I also love feeding ducks, but that doesn't involve being close enough to touch them. * Wasps. And objects being thrown hard at me, in this case gym balls. One of the reasons I hate gym. * This troper loves most things people are afraid of: Sharks (he's swam with them and finds baby sharks super cute), gore, dead bodies, hospitals, snakes, knives, guns, flying, needles, etc. Ok, so maybe he doesn't love dead bodies and needles, but he can handle them almost non-chalantly. (Well, the dead body part is pure speculation; he's never seen one in person). But god forbid spiders, wasps, or big bumblebees get involved. He can't even watch Aragog in

[[TheMovieOfTheBook the film version]] of ''[[HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets Chamber of Secrets]]'' anymore (though it was with great relish that he viewed Aragog's dead and rotting corpse in the film version of ''[[HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Half Blood Prince]]''). He hates spiders so much, that his hatred extends to sea spiders. Though oddly, he loves Lobsters (and beetles too, now that ya mention it). The wasp and bumblebee phobia is less severe, though he will stop dead in his tracks if he sees one flying near him. * I am normally relatively fearless and am a lover of "scary" animals, but there are two things that scare me: hypodermic needles (especially IVs or blood tests) and visibly hot or molten things. This second fear is probably because my Grandmother used to work in a steel plant, and the idea of the molten steel terrified me. I'm fine with fire, but any kind of smithing, lava, or (worst of all) molten metal scare me s***less! I'm even mildly creeped out by the heating elements on stoves. * This troper has a case of megalophobia-- the fear of things significantly larger than me. I get very upset when faced with anything of a certain size, but the most pronounced trigger is large paintings (Such as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_%28Corpus_Hypercubus%29 this one]], which I've seen in person-- it is ''massive'', and I broke out into a cold sweat upon seeing it). I absolutely cannot go near them, and I'll only ever get in the same room as one if I can hold someone's hand while I'm in there. Seriously. I'm mainly afraid that the wires holding them up will break, and the painting will fall on me. Sometimes, the subject matter doesn't help. * [[@/{{Tadaru}} This troper]] is pretty claustrophobic. Not to the point of being freaked out by being in an elevator, but he gets the ''chills'' if he sees someone crawling through a vent on TV or in a movie. * [[@/{{KissofCamine}} I]] am terrified of spiders, drowning, dying of anything other than old age, my own blood in large amounts(aside from my period, and I'd cheerfully explain why if it wasn't going to {{Squick}} some people), and going blind. * This tropette is so scared of snakes, you can not convince her to watch Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets even if you tried. * I'm fine with blood, the dark, bones (including human ones), most dead bodies (haven't seen a dead person though, though I might eventually) spiders, snakes, needles, most bugs (although if they have too many legs they are just plain disgusting.) So what do I really fear? Mannequins. You know, the ones the use to display clothes at shops. I just always get this feeling that they move when I can't see them. This is also the case for some statues. Being alone for a long time also does bad things to my brain... ** Oh, and I haven't got fear of heights. I've got POST-fear of heights. I'm fine with airplanes, but if I've been strolling along some random place with a hundred feet drop down on solid asphalt, I don't get scared until I'm back down on solid ground. I'll just suddenly start shaking at the thought that I COULD have fallen. It feels ridiculous...

* This troper has a particular fear of wasps, hornets and yellow jackets. Bees are okay, as long as they don't attack me or anything, but wasps...NoJustNo. I guess it's a case of WhatMeasureIsANonCute, because bumblebees and honeybees are like the {{Moe}} of the bee world, whereas, in case you haven't noticed, the average yellow jacket [[NightmareFuel looks like it crawled out of a bee-farm in hell!]] And they attack [[ForTheEvulz for no damn reason!]] It [[{{Understatement}} doesn't help]] that I ''live'' in a region where there's a species of them which are bigger, nastier, and [[NightmareFuel eat meat]]. Sure, I tend to [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes overreact]] to them, but could you blame me? * I'm not the kind of person who you would expect to be afraid of anything. I LOVE snakes and frogs and all that stuff. But I am terrified of dolls and bugs. Especially spiders. And moths. There is a GIANT MOTH in my bathroom right now, and I refuse to take a shower until it is gone. * This Troper has a horribly irrational fear of insects and spiders. It's gotten to the point where I whimper (read: suppressed scream of terror) and recoil away from these things. Strangely, the fear shrinks as the size of those bugs increases. Must be the fact that you don't notice the small ones until it's too late. Brrrr. * This female troper is afraid of most heights (and by extension, falling. Even into a trust fall), drowning, fire (but with a strange fascination for it...), clowns (thank you, IT), dogs (big ones, anyway, especially if I didn't know the dog when it was still a little puppy) and being abandoned. I also have minor {{Claustrophobia}}. Not really in a room, so much as having a person on either side of me and behind me when they're a lot taller than me. Also, goddamed stinging insects. I must have touched the bee or whatever it was with my elbow (it was in a tall patch of wheat and my elbow barely went into it) and it stung me. I've gotten over my arachnophobia (partially. At least, I have no issues crushing them) after a Daddy Long Legs decided to crawl all over my arm (I thought it was my hair at first, but I'd just gotten it cut sooo...). Now I just think they're creepy. On the other hand... ** My friend gave the cutest (yet somehow not very girly...) scream when a dead spider rolled out of his pillow case when we were on the phone (which he dropped). His solution was to lock himself in the bathroom and refuse to come out for hours. Luckily there were no spiders in the bathtub (he checked when I asked). He's actually afraid of all kinds of bugs (decreeing that anything with more than four legs is unnatural and freaky). Given that he's usually this irritable, moody, grouchy kid, this fear is actually kind of adorable. Given his complete fear of bugs, I wonder if he's scared of butterflies. I know he's freaked out by moths. * This troper is afraid of most kinds of insects - especially spiders. More specifically, I'm afraid of swallowing spiders in her sleep. Other fears include flying, "mental blackouts" during tests and losing teeth. The last one might have been brought on by reading the summary of "The Fly" and having a nightmare about losing hair and teeth and stuff that night. Also, I was once afraid of elevators (cured when going to a hotel late at night and just being too tired to walk up

stairs, now elevators are my best friends) and needles. Made visits to the doctor real fun: I'd scream and kick and completely freak out whenever I needed a vaccination or it was time for taking my annual blood sample. Got over it mostly, but still... not fun. Also, when I was younger, I used to be really afraid of blood. I once nearly fainted on noticing I had a nosebleed. * This troper is terrified of anything medical. Doctors, blood, needles, you name it. She is especally afraid of those saws used to cut bone in the civil war. * This troper is scared of elevators, after being dragged on the Hollywood Tower of Terror in Disneyland/ California Adventure. Thought it was interesting, had a great story, and fully expecting a raise up, then a plunge, and that's it. Not expecting that to happen about fifty times. After the ride, she was in tears, too scared to speak, and shaking violently. Not long later, she had to go down a real elevator in the Kodak Theater, and again to go to her hotel room at 12AM. After that, she took the stairs, except when they were leaving the hotel and she had her luggage and HAD to. yes, she clung to the rail and the nearest person every time. * [[Tandra88 This troper]] is afraid of needles, open heights (such as roller coasters and ferris wheels) and dogs. * This troper has insectophobia/entomophobia and right now her room is CRAWLING with them. She can't sleep, they rest on her blankets, so she chucked them off the bed and plans on staying up the entire night. There are six or seven in plain sight, and one 1-inch thing she hopes is smothered under a blanket... [[SurvivalMantra just a few hours till dad wakes up, just a few hours till dad wakes up...]] * [[Tropers/MonkeyPhysics I'm]] another wasp-o-phobe. Or whatever the term is. May have something to do with that nest of the things that I lived right underneath as a kid. Only one Series/DoctorWho episode has ever given me nightmares, and unlike most tropers, it wasn't ''Blink'' or any other Moffat episode - it was ''The Unicorn and the Wasp''. ScreamsLikeALittleGirl at its finest. ---Why did it have to be real-life examples? Can't we go back to Main/WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes instead? ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WhyDidYouMakeMeHitYou * This Tropers older brother defaults to this method whenever he realizes he just can't win with word play (And I raise my voice another octave) I remember clearly that he once tried to punch me, because I shouted at him when he attempted to set me on fire with a pair of lighters. Earlier in the year he left me with a half a head swollen, we live in the same house and I haven't said a word to him since. Crazy Fool. In a Subversion it never works, because everyone knows he was in the wrong. ** Have your parents considered getting him some professional help? He sounds ''dangerous''. ** Pyromania + violence + manipulative behavior? He sounds like a

''sociopath''. *** Pyromania + violence and manipulative behavior sounds like almost every troper, myself included. * This troper is in French class at her high school, and the teacher has a guitar in there, which he lets the students play before the late bell for the class rings. One day, though, she was playing guitar and got too caught up in a song to realize the bell had already rung. In order to get her to stop, the teacher started poking at her in the eye. When she put down the guitar and asked why he poked her in the eye, he told her effectively "My finger wasn't poking your eye, your ''eye'' was poking my ''finger''. Why are you making your eye poke my finger?" * This troper likes to counterattack with something like, "Because I wanted to know just how much I can manipulate you." It's worked every time -- they stopped doing it or, at least, stalled and scratched their head in bewilderment, which is fun to watch. * This troper's father tried to pull this one on her. Subverted in that she retaliated by faking a panic attack, complete with rocking back and forth on the floor, hysterical crying and incoherent begging. [[CombatPragmatist It worked]]. Her acting was so convicing she effectively made sure that he wouldn't use that technique ever again. ** Oh, gods, I wish that kind of thing worked for me. Doing that seems to be what the person I'm citing is ''going'' for. * This troper reluctantly admits that she made use of this when having to line up behind her sister, or was behind her sister for some reason. She'd take a small amount of said sister's hair in her hand, holding it but not pulling it, so that when the sister moved away the hair got pulled. * This troper has used this line, generally while his arm is being held by someone else and has just been made to hit someone. He wasn't paying attention to the conversation and was genuinely curious. * This troper has this one in his trick bag and uses it to remind people that my services are never for sale---only for rent, and I reserve the right to change the terms if I feel I'm being taken for granted. One very nice perk of being a sociopath and borderline autistic is that it is impossible to use social forms of manipulation--you always need me more than I need you. * {{Kaywinnet}}'s parents did a variation of this a couple of months ago. She was angry at them for yelling at her over nothing again (she'd put some music on, distracting her mother from the TV) and she wanted to calm down before emptying the dishwasher like she'd been told, so she went into her room. Her father followed her in, hit her, dragged her out towards the kitchen, and half-threw her across the room. He and her mother then proceeded to yell at her for the next twenty minutes or so. Whenever she raised the matter of what her father had just done, they righteously justified it by saying he hadn't hit me that hard ("...No bones are broken. Right?") and he ''had'' to do it, to get me to empty the dishwasher. Later that night, my mother said that the mistake they've made as parents is being too nice to me. A real KickTheDog night, for both of them. ** Now they've done a variation - Why Did You Make Your Brother Hit You. He gets off scot free, because "he can't control his temper,"

while I get a lecture for annoying him in the first place and thus causing him to hit me. ** If nights like that are common, I'd say you're being abused. *** Agreed, Kay, I'd say revenge is the best option. Beat the living shit out of them until you break them and they are begging for mercy. Whips work well, as do kicks and fists and "sterilization with a heavy object" works well on men. *** Illegal, and it's a valid question whether she can physically overpower them. Report this to the authorities. It's fairly clear-cut abuse. * This troper has younger twin siblings that will freak out at almost every other thing I do. I walk up to them with wet hands after washing them? Try and punch me. I grab one thing of theirs, perhaps an RC car? Try and punch me. I harmlessly tap an RC Blimp he has? Tries to punch me. Considering how this troper is 6'4, 240 pounds, and This troper's brothers are about 5'5 and a minor 180, I have no idea why they do this. ** BullyingADragon. Hit back, they'll stop. * This teenage troper's mom reacts this way often when she hits her much to this tropers confusion. It's just a few hits, never more then fifteen or so spread over however long this troper refuses to give in. Then again she does use a ''belt'' most of the time. ** Where are you...cause if you're in the US, that's illegal. *** Agreed. I'll suggest much the same thing I did for Kay, but instead beat your mother with a belt until she gives in. Also, perhaps put a finger through her eye. *** Once again, I'd instead suggest reporting it to the authorities. * Subverted in that [[GirlWithoutHat This Troper's]] mother does not hit her. Played straight in that their "arguments" usually consist of her mother informing her on how she's a horrible person, selfish and unreliable, and that this is all her father's fault, for five to twenty minutes, going on when said Troper starts sobbing and compulsively apologizing (thus arguably Exaggerated as well), and then telling her that she wishes Troper didn't make her have to do this and that if only the Troper could be better--, also that now the Troper's going to have to clean up so she doesn't embarrass her mother and why did she have to do this to herself. Fun, huh? ** ... You might want to talk to someone about that. Emotional abuse is still abuse. ** Used literally in that she has a friend who's fond of grabbing her hands and hitting her with them, or vice versa. "Why are you hitting yourself?" is usually replied to with "Why are you making me hit you, then?" when one of them can't get the other's hand at the right angle. * My parents used this on me to try to justify their actions and make themselves feel better when I used to live with them. I guess it worked so well that the cops believed them too. * This does not work on me. [[UnstoppableRage I lose it before they can ask, and hit right back.]] -->Why did you... ->KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

-->O_O * My mom uses this on me every single time. Sometimes she changes it up with something along the lines of "You had it coming." * On the (''extremely'') rare occasions [[Tropers/AdelePotter This Tropette's]] mom has hit her, she's always felt like it was her fault. And I always begged for forgiveness, mainly out of fear. I'm still scared today, even though the only times my mom has it me, she was on some new meds (which she stopped taking immediately). Still, there's always that lurking chance... ---[[WhyDidYouMakeMeHitYou Why did you make me link back to the main page?]] ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WhyWasteAWedding * This troper remembers a story on the news about a jilted bride who turned her reception into one big party. She also donated the leftover food to a local homeless shelter as well as the money she received as wedding gifts. ** CrowningMomentOfAwesome right there. * This troper's mother was the organist at a wedding where the bride called her maid of honor, saying she was calling off the wedding. The groom's response? "And I was really hoping to get married today. Will you marry me?" The wedding went ahead with the maid of honor being the (new) bride. ** Their marriage sounds like the premise of a sitcom. ** This tropers curious. Did it last? * This troper's mother was engaged to be married when she met my father. With the wedding only a few months away she dumped the first guy and called her mother. "Keep the wedding day, change the groom." She claims the first fiancee was scared of commitment, but it's notable that he actually married somebody else within a year. * This troper heard a tale about a wedding where the bride decided not to go. The groom turned it into a ceremony where he remained a bachelor. He did later marry--but never heard from his first fiancee again. ---Well, it'd be a shame to let this [[Main/WhyWasteAWedding trope]] go to waste.

WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings * This phrase comes up far too often in the percussion section of my school's band. We often drop things, things fall over, etc., and this phrase comes out. Once, when we were extremely off and the director had to stop, I said, "This is why we can't play nice songs!" and that has also become a popular thing to say among us.

* [[BumblingDad My dad]] [[SubvertedTrope has never said this verbatim]], because he makes sure it doesn't happen to the [[AvertedTrope nice things we do have.]] Although it does kind of defeat the purpose of having such things. * Edgy said this throughout his school years anytime someone ruined it for the rest of us.

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WickedStepmother * My friend had one. She didn't actually know that the woman wasn't her mom until she was 15, but she was nasty. She was very physically and mentally abusive, complete with treating her half-brother (her own son) better than her and disbelieving her when she found out her father had been sexually abusing her, pressuring her to say she lied, eventually leading to her running away from home. When my friend found out about her identity she still saw herself as the victim and still has no remorse. * This troper almost had one. She wasn't a stepmother, just her dad's girlfriend, but she was nasty! She'd yell at this troper and her three siblings, punish us more harshly than her two kids, basically giveing her kids whatever they wanted. This troper and her sister had to share a room with the WickedStepmother's oldest daughter, who liked the room very bright, when they stayed for the night. We had finally reached a compromise with the almost-stepsister, and then she burst in and made it how it originally was. She would also immediately assume when there was a fight that one of us was to blame, even when it was obviously her kids' fault. Luckily, after two years of this crap, this troper's dad dumped her and moved out. [[AvertedTrope He's now dating a very nice woman from work.]] * This Troper has a mean stepmother who ******* on **. ** Uh.... What? * I have one. Oh boy, do I ever! My dad met her when I was about four, and at first she was really nice. Then, as soon as she'd gotten my dad hooked, she turned really mean and sarcastic in a way that no kid can, or should have to, handle. She would constantly favor her own three kids and say or snarl things that made me cry. When my dad asked why I was crying, she would very innocently tell him approximately what she had said, but in a very different manner, leading him to believe that I was just overreacting. When my parents finally realised that something was wrong and took me to a psychiatrist, my stepmother refused to come, which basically meant that we sat there discussing a problem when the cause of it wasn't even there. Gradually, my stays with dad were cut shorter and shorter because I got hysteric every time I was supposed to go there, and eventually I only met him once a month. Today, my dad and my stepmother have six children together and I haven't met my dad or my siblings for eight years. * This troper had one that she suffered at the hands of at about 10 years old that seemed to hate her for no reason, found random things

about her that she didn't like to pick on her about, and send horrifying emails to her mother. Even worse was how this troper's dad never stood up for her or her then-baby brother and just let her push us around. This troper managed to escape, but her brother didn't, and thus he had to suffer alone. Nowadays, there's nothing this troper wants to do more than to [[CallingTheOldManOut finally make her aware of all the crap she put her through]]. * Genderflipped: This troper [[AvertedTrope did not have one,]] but for a long time it felt like she did. See, I was raised by both her mother and her ''grand''mother, the latter of whom had a habit of spoiling me rotten--and until I was about six, I ''was'' rotten. Didn't do what I was told, acted like a horrible brat, and did ''not'' welcome my new step-father. Since the grandmother took my side in everything and mother couldn't fight her mother, my step-father took to disciplining me, which alternated between spanking and DeniedFoodAsPunishment. As I started being less and less bratty, I noticed that Step-Father seemed nicer and warmer, took me on more outings and played games with me more often. After half a year, I'd become a lot nicer, a lot less bratty, and did everything I was told, and therefore punished much less, and now my step-father and I actually have a wonderful relationship. (In fact, three stories I mentioned in the TroperTales section of CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming involved me and ''him!'') * This troper's Girlfriend is stuck with an abusive Stepdad. In addition to both parents having given her a huge complex about being poor, she lives in constant fear of his slightest annoyance at her. At the time of writing she is currently grounded and forbidden from seeing friends (day of writing, 12/25.) and has been so for over a month, with extensions for things such as 'complaining to others' and 'being immature (read, crying when upset). This troper LIVES for the day she can move out and he can give the man TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to make the history books. This troper is taking suggestions for said speech. * This troper had one who was VERY abusive. She also had two evil step siblings to boot (sister and brother). * This troper has one, and unfortunately two stepsiblings. One of which is very nice, the other one is the biggest brat this troper has ever had the displeasure of seeing throw a tantrum.

Wide-EyedIdealist * I'm very much this trope. I like to think that people, as a whole, are genuinely good, at least in their own minds, and that very few people are... well, evil in the sense that they just do everything ForTheEvulz. Of course, I'm still well aware of atrocities such as the Holocaust, slavery... And they were all horrible, but the people committing them, even if everyone else can all agree they were immoral, probably didn't think they were doing anything bad. ...Right? ;w; (Oh, and it helps that I'm also quite literally wide-eyed; a lot of people tell me I have enormous blue eyes.) * Strangely, I turned into one after going through about five years of Break The Cutie. Even after being bullied I think people are basically

good, and that everyone deserves a second, maybe even a third chance to redeem themselves. The only time I think someone is truly evil is if they know the consequences of what they're doing but do it anyway, and even then I think 'evil' is honestly a pretty strong word to use. * I was more cynical as a child actually; I used to think some people were bad and some people were good, but I later realized it was a lot more complicated. I think nearly everyone should have a chance at being forgiven, if they work at it and are truly sorry for what they did. I also think everyone has an impact on the world, and everyone has significance. I'm also a total optimist who can see the bright side to most things. * I am this to possibly a really annoying extent. My friends aren't idealists to the same extent, so they come off as more cool, I suppose. They probably consider me very naive; I believe everyone has some amount of good in them no matter who they are, and I'm very reluctant on using the world 'evil' to describe someone. I don't like to swear and I'm determined to always donate to charity and be as good as possible despite my fiesty personality around my friends - I never talk about someone behind their back and I hate myself if I think mean things. I'm also a huge optimist and will always focus on the bright side of things. I don't call myself naive though, I used to be more cynical or realistic, and I know there are bad things in this world. I just don't think we should get all bogged down thinking about them when there is still so much good in the world too.

WikiMagic * SlaveMooks was one of [[{{Tropers/HG131}} This Tropers]] first pages created. It was a weak little thing with a large picture of a Flood Combat Form. Now look at it. My biggest regret is the s. * On TheOtherWiki, I started a page for Brian "Head" Welch from Korn. Others weighed in with revisions, but then about a month later (give or take), there was big news about the guy finding his faith, which others added, so that's sort-of WikiMagic. * ForHalloweenIAmGoingAsMyself began as a simple page with three examples due to the [[@/KJMackley launching troper]] being unfamiliar with the process and not saving all the additional examples that were given. Within a few days the example list grew massively along with a picture and page quote. * The page for ''JovianChronicles'' is currently averting this; [[@/NeoSilverThorn I am uncertain]] whether it's due to the page's relatively low visibility, or that he's one of the few people to own a copy of the game. * [[@/{{Gerusz}} I noticed]] that the TroperTales page of [[TroperTales/GreenEggsAndHam Green Eggs And Ham]] doesn't link back to the entry itself. I added the link in a nifty (at least I like to think that) line alongside with It TastesLikeChicken. I wondered how that couldn't be a {{trope}} yet. Then I checked back later to find that the [[{{Trope}} trope's]] page has blossomed. However, {{Wiki magic}} doesn't always work -- I created the Hungarian TheOtherWiki page for DNA by translating a section of the English one three years ago, but it hasn't expanded yet (only some names were linkified).

* [[@/{{Antwan}} I created]] the ''SuperMarioGalaxy'' page and somebody complained about it being not notable very fast. Well, sure enough, WikiMagic doubled the amount of {{trope}}s I originally put, which was six. I can't wait to see what ''Super Mario Sunshine'' and ''Super Mario 64'' will entail once I get around to making them. * [[@/OmegaMetroid I]] made the page for HeelFaceMindScrew out of one example in ''Series/{{Heroes}}''. Look at it now, and you'd never guess that. * [[@/DannyVElAcme I started]] the page on TheEngineer after noticing that for some reason it's a pervasive character type that was not made a {{trope}}. I added maybe 3 examples, all jumbled, and a few paragraphs. Right now? 17 examples nicely indexed by medium, loads of links to other related pages, indexed to the website as a whole and even a nifty quote at the top. Thanks, guys! :-) * ''ChroniclesOfTheKencyrath'': [[@/FuzzyBoots I created]] a small entry after having doing a lot of EntryPimp on the site, and then mentioned it on one of the mailing lists. The page rapidly became quite large and now sports quotes, a WildMassGuess section, Character Analysis, an ItJustBugsMe section, and reviews. And all for an obscure series that's released four (excellent!) books over almost two decades. * [[@/{{ZeldaTheSwordsman}} I]]'ve added a good deal of the {{trope}}s to the page for ''TransformersCybertron''. * As an editor on ThatOtherWiki, I rewrote entirely the Spanish articles for [[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_III_Arena Quake III Arena]] and [[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal_Tournament Unreal Tournament]], based on their English versions. Of note is that the former article was a short stub of just three paragraphs, and the latter was deleted TWICE. Now nobody would dare to delete/denounce such articles anymore. * After I got fed up with his mother's firm belief that the Moon was a hollowed out spaceship sent by aliens to spy on earth he looked up "hollow moon" on {{Wikipedia}} and got [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hollow_moon&oldid=10924365 3 this]]. One short visit to wikipedia:cleanup and the article was flooded with [[WikipediaUpdater Wikipedia updaters]]. Now it looks like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_moon this]]. * I started the article on Wikipedia for Israel Bissell after watching Robert Wuhl's ''Assume the Position''. It was about three paragraphs long and had four or five sources. When I checked back over two years later, it had five sections, about six individual paragraphs, a timeline, popular culture references, twice as many sources, and even a picture of the message he delivered, along with an in-text reprint of it. Funnily enough, I can still see that some of his original paragraphs remain in the current revision. * This troper keeps hoping it'll happen for her [[http://1930s.wikia.com/wiki/The_1930s_Wiki wiki about the 1930s]]. Alas, it's just been her and the trolls. * [[@/MidnightMan I cannot]] visit TV Tropes without editing anything. Guess I'm also one of those to blame for the size of ''ChipAndDaleRescueRangers''. * I found the AdrianMole page blank, so I added a bit of information

to it. Shortly after, I visited it, and it began to explode. * This UnknownTroper makes it a practice to lurk TV Tropes and edit pages, add examples, fix any glaring grammar errors, provide [[{{Wick}} wicks]], and create Laconic pages for any pages that need them and can be made more understandable by making a Laconic page. You're all welcome. :) ** You happen to be a fan of Backseat Goodbye? I could use a goddamn lot of help with it, laconic and all. It's not up yet (only a Word file to be copy-pasta'd) but I am soooo not into archive bingeing all of his 140+ songs for tropes. * Once upon a time, I wrote three sentences about [[{{Fanfic.ThirtyHs}} HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH]] on the [[{{SoBadItsGood.Fanfic}} So Bad It's Good/Fanfic]] page. Before long, there were examples on trope pages, dramatic readings, and then its own work page, which is steadily growing in size and, it seems, popularity. ({{Squee}}!) * [[@/ManCalledTrue This editor]] inadvertantly brought MegaNeko and ShotInTheAss to life. * [[@/FlintTD This Troper?]] has a habit of taking long Wiki-walks all over [[http://www.lexicanum.com]], a Warhammer-based Other Wiki, and completely re-building broken links. And citing his sources too. ** Incorrect sourcing, or more likely no sourcing at all, is pretty much the only reason ANYTHING gets taken down over there, in case nobody understands why that Troper has a taxing "hobby". Although by those standards there is a lot to take down.... * I added an image onto BigDamnMovie from the series SoRandom. It had no page, but I linked to it anyway. Guess what happened. ---To go back to WikiMagic just go on and say, "Bippity Boppity Tropes!" ----

Wikipedia * On the BiasSteamroller issue, this troper has had two classes where he had to take a trip to the school library, where he has had to listen to almost the exact same speech about how to look up info. Said speech bashed Wikipedia by giving the example that someone had edited it into saying that Senator Ted Kenedy died at Obama's Inaugural Luncheon after he had a seizure. Also claiming that some schools have banned it and that is enough reason to not use it. He even goes so far as to insult {{Google}} and search engines due to "Non Official sites that may be incorrect." ** On my job as a librarian I've recently discovered that certain schools demand kids to show the books they've used for research because of this. Now if they all stopped giving the same assignments at the same time in my town it would be useful, but as it stands: A few kids will be able to do so, the rest will have to wait for the books to come back. ** You should've responded with the fact that the vandalism to that Ted Kennedy article was reverted within 5 minutes. * Something funny this troper saw on The Other Wiki- literally two

minutes before writing this, this troper checked Wikipedia's list of 'films considered the worst ever'. For some reason, ''Avatar'' was there. [[HateDom Yes, that Avatar, James Cameron's Avatar.]] Now get this. Literally one minute before writing this, this troper checked the page again, specifically, 'view history.' [[WikiMagic IT WASN'T FRELLING THERE.]] Some Good Samaritan had removed it in the sixty seconds between me first viewing it and me viewing it the second time! And I don't edit Wikipedia, so your guess is as good as mine. [[FoeYay I'm starting to like you, Other Wiki.]] ** Speaking as a former Wikipedia editor, these kinds of occurrences are not uncommon, and people are constantly on watch for simple, easily revertible acts of vandalism. One constantly sees things disappear before his very eyes. * I made an article about my local mall, but within months, it was latched onto by this local Wikipedian who is on the Internet every waking hour. Now, no edit gets into the article without being reverted. She decides what references are legit, and which ones aren't, which makes it frustrating to see untruths about my local mall and being powerless to stop it. ** Curiously... What's the article called? * On the flipside, one of this troper's classmates once made an article about the stall he was running for the school stall day, which was deleted in ''twenty seconds''. * A few years ago (2007) someone in my [[YouFailBiologyForever Biology class]][[hottip:*: there's actually a reason it links there]] made a page for the high school, which had about 500 students and was in a town with a population of 500 (as in not exactly something that you'd expect to last long). I just looked up the page a few minutes ago and was surprised that it's still there 3 years later. * {{Nerdspringer}} once set up a deliberatly fake entry about himself to see how long it would last. It took approximately thirty seconds before it was deleted. On a more serious note, I once had to write a Wikipedia page on an individual scientist for a class. The page was pretty well researched although I could have provided more citations to back up my claims. * This troper actually used to be a Wikipedia Contributer. One day, I tried to merge a couple badly written small articles into one large well written article, all basically focusing on the same subject. Do you think the admins would like it at all? Apparantly not. I instantly get not one but two messages from some snobby petty admin (hint: last name is MORAN) about him wanting me to work collaboratively with others, instead of on my own. Guess what? No one else wanted to help edit such articles, leaving me alone no matter what. Wikipedia, I am disappoint. * [[Tropers/{{Twentington}} This Troper]] (I'm [=TenPoundHammer=] there) signed up in December 2005 and, despite so much conflict, can't

bear to leave the site. Ever. I've contributed over 1000 articles there and expanded dozens more. I also got seven articles, one of which was one I wrote, to Good Article status. Areas where I contribute the most are country music and retail. * OOZE used to have an English teacher that, to demonstrate the inaccuracy of wikipedia, had vandalizing wikipedia and keeping track of how long it takes to get reverted be an ASSIGNMENT. For POINTS. And you get a better grade the LONGER YOUR EDIT STAYS THERE. ~~~~ * This Troper erased all the text on the "Purple" article on Wikipedia and changed it to "Purple is the [[TastesLikeChicken color of chicken.]] It is (insert 500 "very"s here) sexy." [[EpicFail It was changed back in 20 seconds.]] * [[{{Tropers/Pittsburghmuggle}} I feel like such an idiot]]. I've been seeing references to TheOtherWiki around and assumed it was a wiki called "The Other Wiki" for some clever reason. Finally I followed the link to see what this "Other Wiki" was... and here I am. Wikipedia, all this time. Duh. ** To actually share a Wikipedia story though, someone on Wikipedia is STRONGLY against the number 69's page having any link to the sex position 69's page. I was told it was on the disambiguation page that was good enough. I didn't agree, but left it be. It's been added to the page now, though. * This troper ''always'' uses Wikipedia for her school projects, even though her teachers at school have been absolutely '''''anal''''' about any student using it for the past two years. ---This link will take you back to [[TheOtherWiki the main article]].[[superscript:[citation needed] ]] ----

WikiSandbox Science.

WikiWalk * I'm on day 20 of a wiki walk. ** Has anyone seen the above troper come back yet? * I'm into day 7 myself, I think. I have 130 tvtrope tabs open on one of the ''two'' computers I'm wiki walking with simultaneously (one at work, one at home). Every time Firefox restarts it freezes my computer for 2-3 minutes loading all the pages I've waded to and ''haven't even got around to read''. * I WikiWalk through life. I've never pulled an all-nighter for school, but I've completely lost a night multiple times for an out-ofcontrol session. Seeing as I've got a short attention span and an addiction to useless information, this site is like crack to me. I can always quit though... right? ** No you Can't, and are you me?

* Well, [[Tropers/OmegaMetroid I]]'ve been coming up with a video game (although I'm not sure how to code it just yet). One weapon, which would be included in the sequel if there is one, started as a flaming sword. It is now a flaming chainsaw made out of crystalline ice. (Flaming sword --> flaming weapon --> flaming chainsaw --> elemental weapons --> flaming ice chainsaw --> flaming crystal ice chainsaw.) ** Also, the main recurring setting started as a room in a college dorm. It is now an enormous city suspended on top of a 16 km-tall pin, complete with elementary school, high school, college, university, airport, mall, police department, at least 20 distinct housing areas, fire department, Cape Canaveral (which was moved from its original location, obviously), and so on. Everyone enrolled in the college uses giant robotic legs for transportation, when not using the city's teleporters. There are [[EverythingIsEvenWorseWithSharks sharks]], [[EverythingsSquishierWithCephalopods cephalopods]], [[EverythingsCuterWithKittens kittens]], [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs dinosaurs]], and bizarre amalgamations such as the cephalokittens and the sharkosaurs. The library is run by Santa Claus (yeah, I'm really stooping low enough to make fun of the beloved children's character). As should be obvious, I'm a fan of MahouSenseiNegima. (Part of my train of thought involves going through MahouSenseiNegima to ElaborateUniversityHigh to... well, I'm not even sure what came next anymore. And I haven't even mentioned the loony professors (like the one who fights crime by night while wearing a [[StarTrek Spock]] costume), or how {{Batman}} is the dean. ** Okay, I've checked, and ElaborateUniversityHigh led to the addition of the university and the high school, which led to the addition of the elementary school. This led to the large size of the city, which necessitated some method(s) of transportation... which led to teleporters and giant robotic legs. I don't have much programming experience yet, though, and it'll be the first game I've ever made, so don't hold your breath waiting for it. ** ...Now that I think about it, it saves time if I don't think about my thought process. On a related note, I've downloaded RPG Maker, so that should help. *** It didn't. It doesn't seem to do [=TRPGs=]. * In the Real Life section of the main article, it mentions a game called Wikiball. I have a friend who has come up with a variation: Jesus Wikiball. In most cases, you can get to the article on Jesus within six clicks. ** One can also do this with Hitler, through pathways involving such diverse things as Freemasonry, the transitive property of equality, and dynamic equilibrium. (Try those yourself.) *** Tried that with one of the Articles of the Day, got to Hitler from ''Aardonyx'' (a dinosaur) in six clicks. Too easy. *** This was even more easier that this troper thought. I went from Boyle's Law (a homework)>> Ideal gas law >> August Krnig >> Germany >> Hitler. 6 clicks, like the one above me *** Five clicks: [[DungeonsAndDragons Eladrin]] >> {{Fantasy}} >> JRRTolkien >> Standard German >> WorldWarII >> AdolfHitler. (Would also work for anything that happens to link to "Fantasy", of course.) *** Four clicks: Leon Sinks >> United States >> Nazi Germany >> Adolf

Hitler. I then did it once more and again managed four clicks: Australian Superkart Championship >> Australia >> World War II >> Adolf Hitler. I'm going to keep trying until I manage to get there in three clicks, or until I [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny get bored]]. *** One click, twice over. Today's featured article is St Michael's Cathedral, Qingdao. It has direct links to both Jesus ''and Hitler''. I think I have either won or lost this game but I'm not sure which. **** I know a person who got to Hitler ''just by clicking the Random''. * My friends and I play a game where the goal is to, by process of logical connections, go from something random to another something random. I always win, with the most weirdest being Horse to Coconut. I won thanks to TV tropes. Horse hooves were sounded by coconuts. The rest had odd thirteen long trains. * [[Tropers/DarkInsanity13 This troper]] calls it train-hopping. It seems only other Cloudcuckoolanders or people who know her well know what she's talking about. Maybe people would understand her terminology more if she used the phrase WikiWalk instead, but [[TVTropesWillRuinYourVocabulary TV Tropes has ruined her vocabulary enough as it is]]. * A very odd Wiki Walk started at More Dakka and ended at Yaoi Guys. More Dakka-> There is No Kill Like Overkill-> Cherry Tapping-> Finger Poke of Doom-> Poke The Poodle-> Noble Demon-> Defector From Decadence-> Rebellious Princess-> Pimped Out Dress-> Costume Porn-> Bling of War-> Impossibly Cool Clothes -> Clothing Damage-> Shirtless Scene-> Yaoi Guys... * This troper, when bored, will go to this site, hit 'random item' a few times, and (unless the database decides to send me to a lot of shows I've never seen) will usually in a few minutes be able to stay occupied for ''hours''. The tabs function on Mozilla Firefox often also leads to opening an interesting link in a new window, Wiki Walking ''miles'' away from whatever started that link, and then going back to it. It gets even worse on mostly blue entries where I will start at least eight wiki walks in tabs plus one wiki walk in the original tabs. Heaven help me when I have several tabs waiting and then wander to a largely blue entry. * One (untraceable) one started at ''{{Enchanted}}'' and ended at the TvTropesWikiDrinkingGame. And then from there to PrecisionFStrike. ** It takes one click to get from TvTropesWikiDrinkingGame to PrecisionFStrike. * After reading somewhere it was possible to get from pasta to transexual on Wikipedia in six clicks, this troper attempted to do so. While eventually managing it, he had about ten other tabs open totally unrelated to either end by the time he made it. ** One possible five-step route for that, in case you're curious: Pasta > Chinese people > Sinophobia > Transphobia(via the right sidebar "Discrimination"; you have to click the "show" link by "Social" under "Specific forms") > Transsexualism. ** Another, in four clicks: Pasta > India > Liberal Democracy > Homosexuality (Then go down to Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) topics and find Gender identities / Sexual identities) > Transsexualism.

** Pasta > Jerusalem Talmud > Jew > Judaism > LGBT topics and Judaism > Transgenderism and religion > Transgenderism and religion * {{Trope-tan}} somehow connected me to DarthWiki/PaintTheHeroBlack. Ironically, I nearly wiki-walked ''back'' to Trope-Tan from DarthWiki/PaintTheHeroBlack (she has an entry on that page, but it isn't mentioned on hers) before noticing I still had her tab open. Another tab, on a Wiki Walk also starting at Trope-Tan, holds HypercompetentSidekick. * This troper has noticed a reoccuring pattern to their wiki walks. No matter what they started out with, there is a high probability of them ending up reading something to do with Japan. * The thought processes of someone with ADD or ADHD are basically just constant Wiki Walks. This Troper will start trying to remember where she left her soda and end up with going over the mental 3-day run in Majora's Mask. And the thoughts skip so often that This Troper comes to a new subject every few seconds. Actually, the mental Wiki Walk helps This Troper sleep... ** GET. OUT. OF. [[Tropers/{{Kitsunezeta}} MY.]] HEAD. and on a trivial note, going from a google search for Digital Pets to reading about ALICE (a chatbot) is one of my more sane wiki walks. oh, and if people ever get this troper involved in some game of Wiki tag, there's a good chance it'll take a long time... *** I do the same thing. To the extent where I'm known in my family to not have a train of thought, but an ATV. * As a mental exercise, when she catches herself in a mental WikiWalk, this troper likes to try and retrace her steps back to the originating thought. A [[IncrediblyLamePun WikiMoonWalk]], if you will. * [[Tropers/AnthonyMercer I]] sometimes keep track of conversations that end up like this. We once had a conversation that started at "Milkshake" and ended at "The Vagina Dimension" - which one of my friends decided to illustrate for us... * [[Tropers/JapaneseTeeth This Troper]] recently did a writing exercise for his creative writing class. The first sentence is "For most of my life, my room had no view". The last line was [[spoiler:"I wish I had a [[NiceHat sombrero with a]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot parrot-operated]] [[MoreDakka gun turret]] inside it."]] Note that there was actually a logical progression, and that got from the first sentence to the last in under a page. And I have large handwriting. * [[Tropers/MikeK This troper's]] family conversations over dinner sometimes go through massive cases of this, often due to his dad steering the conversation in odd directions. A conversation can go from Kurt Russell to religion to the civil war, until finally someone ends up having to look up the correct lyrics to Ringo Starr's "No No No Song". * One time This troper tripped acid, he regretted not having his laptop to at least track his mental journey. Later dosed with his laptop present and can testify: it doesn't work. What started out an exploration of the Book of Five Rings led to TVTropes, and This troper still doesn't know which way he turned. * This trope is the reason for [[Tropers/AceOfScarabs this Troper's]] appearance here, and also a major contributing factor to his ability to multi-task. Multi-track Wiki Walking!

* This troper once had a conversation at work that started at crimescene cleanup services and ended at marinara sauce. ** That wouldn't be difficult, would it? I mean, many crime scenes wouldn't that unlike marinara sauce. The sort with tomato and prawns, unseeing boiled-eyeball-shaped oysters... * This troper once went on a Wiki Walk here: ParentalSubstitute > TreasurePlanet > DeathGlare > DrivesLikeCrazy > ColorFailure > BlueWithShock > NoodleIncident > DrunkenMaster > BottleFairy > OlderThanDirt > ChessWithDeath. ''Huh?'' ** ChainsOfLove > BrainBleach > HotSkittyOnWailordAction > BoldlyComing > TheMcCoy > StrawmanEmotional > AgentMulder > AgentScully > TheWorldEndsWithYou > CallARabbitASmeerp > BuffySpeak > GratuitousFrench > TheMuppets. * [[Tropers/{{Artemis92}} This Troper]] does this all the time-both [[CloudCuckoolander in his head]] and [[BrowserNarcotic out]]. * Happened very often and still happens frequently enough with [[Tropers/{{Das}} this troper]], both in the sense of using a wiki and in the sense of a runaway thought process. The latter especially while waiting for a bus. * One of [[Tropers/PingoTBest this troper's]] favorite {{WikiWalk}}s was on the StarTrek wiki Memory Alpha. She had gone from the article on Spock to the page detailing Klingon marriage ceremonies (or something like that) throughout the course of 6 hours. * This troper has a series of Wikipedia walks connecting fictional robots with children and young adult authors. Example: ED-209>stop motion> stop motion film> Fantastic Mr. Fox> Roald Dahl. * Okay, so, I have a tendency to open an excessive number of tabs rather than just use the back button. This is my after-action report for the wiki walk I've been doing for a few hours. Hot dog -> Salt -> Iodine Deficiency -> Mental Retardation -> Psychosis -> Salvia Divinorum/LSD/Hippy stuff -> Sexual Revolution. I did a wiki walk that started with hot dogs and ended with, ahem, [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean hot dogs]]. * [[Tropers/PentiumMMX2 This troper]] has fun occasionally going on a Wiki Walk. I don't remember how I did it, though, but on TheOtherWiki, I somehow managed to navigate from the article on RobotChicken to the article on SesameStreet pretty quickly. * This is TVTropes. If you're here at all, chances are you're doing a WikiWalk [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife which has taken up most of your time for the last few months]]. I still wonder how I got from ThisIsADrill to AnythingThatMoves... * [=WikiWalks=] for [[Tropers/MalagasyParrot this troper]] commonly accumulate more tab browsing clutter than anything else due to the habit of opening multiple links from each page, only to end up reading a fraction of these pages and leaving the rest unattended for up to months. The problem was overcome by dumping [=URLs=] of both read and unread pages to a Notepad text file and never referring to them again. When a good 70% of [[TrashOfTheTitans e-hoarded links]] are the result of [=WikiWalks=], it makes you wonder... * My very first WikiWalk after discovering {{Wikipedia}} turned to this. Started at [[NineteenEightyFour 1984]], moved to dystopias in general, then to {{Half Life}} and Half Life 2 (and most of the sub-

pages), then to the Soviet Union (including various periods, departments and personalities within the USSR), then to religion in the Soviet Union, then to religious demographics within the Russia, then to shamanism, animism, totemism and, finally, {{Otherkin}}. I had many [=WikiWalks=] after that, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything but my first time was my most special]]. * A friend of this troper got from "Biological Warfare" to the "Care Bears" with only internal links. * Here's my wiki walk. Read it backwards because I got to the end and went back through it. ** Home Page > Tv Tropes Wiki Drinking Game > Duct Tape For Everything > Hidden Supplies > Crazy Prepared > Rummage Fail > Bag of Holding > Pocket Dimension > Another Dimension > Dream Land > Dream Sequence > Imagine Spot > Commercials Tropes > Dramatization > Do Not Attempt > Don't Try This At Home > Percussive Maintenance > Get A Hold Of Yourself Man > Ruined FOREVER > They Changed It Now It Sucks > Art Evolution > Three Panel Soul > Paper Thin Disguise > Totem Pole Trench > Human Ladder > Chain Of People > Just In Time > Race Against The Clock > Time Bomb > Why Am I Ticking > Explosive Leash > Your Head A Splode > Stuff Blowing Up > Rebus Bubble > Idea Bulb > Light Is Good > Cue The Sun > Against the Setting Sun > Riding Into The Sunset > Wiki Walk * This troper finds that TvTropes [=WikiWalks=] are way more fun if you avoid anything to do with Haruhi, Chekhov, Xanatos, Badasses, Discworld and Series/DoctorWho. On the other wiki, this troper started with Anton Chekhov, inventor of the ChekhovsGun) and ended up in flouroantimonic acid, the strongest acid known to man, all by using internal links. * I once recorded one of my wiki walks on The Other Wiki, in a multipage document. Apparently, I started at The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus (my favorite band at the time), and ended up reading about kitsunes. The full list is far too huge to post here, but it included articles on Transformers, Freddy Krueger, goth subculture, Six Flags, God, and cheerleading. * Part of the reason for [[Tropers/KatanaCat This Troper]]'s AttentionDeficitOohShiny is the fact that she's constantly taking Wiki Walks of the mental variety. Also, she has been taking a Wiki Walk on here ever since one of her friends linked her to TV Tropes because she was bored and needed a way of killing some time. And her parents wonder why she always suddenly starts staring off into space and not paying attention to what they're saying to her... in her mind, porn links to PinkyAndTheBrain, along with everything else she's ever thought of, if you just follow the links between for long enough... I'll stop before I suddenly start ratting off something random, via taking a mental Wiki Walk and typing every step. EDIT: The main problem I (yeah, first Troper again) have with these mental wiki walks is that I have no ability to control them, and they sometimes lead to activities other than the thing I'm in the middle of doing and demand that I stop and do that instead. The amount of unfinished work I have is too much to list, and it in fact would be much easier to list all the things I HAVE finished than to list a few things I haven't. Things I haven't finished include two collections of free DeviantART avatars,

last night's rice, and almost every game I've ever played. Things I have finished include a drawing of an [[Pokemon Eevee]], my breakfast, and E-102 Gamma's story in ''SonicAdventure DX: Director's Cut''. ** Seconded. Who said Wiki Walks have to originate mainly from the Internet? In real life, the catch-all word for it is "daydreaming," but that term is hardly ever connected to "(long, long,) trail of thought." What I am: Thankful to live in such a interesting world. -->"The journey is the destination." ** First Troper again. It seems that my Wiki Walks involving either ''Flicky'' or ''ConkersBadFurDay'' has become a RunningGag. Last night, I ended up deciding to look up the latter of those two games, found out it had an Xbox remake (albeit a rather cencored one), and as I may end up having an Xbox I decided to see if there were any other games I'd be interested in. Long story short, I started by looking up ''Conker's Bad Fur Day'' on here, and ended up looking up 5 Xbox games on TheOtherWiki. In no particular order, they are: ''Conker: Live and Reloaded'', ''Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts'', ''Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex'', ''ShadowTheHedgehog'', and ''Sonic Adventure 2''. Today, I took a wiki walk that spanned 5 pages and 3 sites. It started on [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Jet_the_Hawk this]] and ended on [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Walk_of_Fame this]]. The full wiki walk this time was as follows: [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Jet_the_Hawk Jet the Hawk]] [[http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Babylon_Rogues#Jet_the_Hawk Babylon Rogues]] - [[http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Flicky Flicky]] (this time via the "Read more" bar at the bottom, which lists 3 random pages) [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Woodpecker Woody Woodpecker]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Walk_of_Fame Hollywood Walk of Fame]]. When I was done I wasn't sure how I even got there, and had to check the list of what the history for that Firefox tab was. * My wiki walks often lead to all sorts of FanDisservice. Since I don't actually look at the URL I'm wiki walking to, I had no idea the next link was going to lead to "penis" or "masturbation" or some sexual position I've never heard of. Often this happens when trolls change it to link to those pages. * I was once talking about ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'', and I mentioned it's basically a parody of ''MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' [[ThisIsYourPremiseOnDrugs off its antidepressants]]. Since the guy I was talking to was too old to have watched the show, that then led to a two-hour lecture on the first season of ''MightyMorphinPowerRangers''. Yeah. * This troper opens new articles in new tabs frequently. Earlier today, he had over 100 TvTropes tabs open, as well as about 30 from TheOtherWiki (at other times, there have been much more). * I once got on {{Wikipedia}} for a school project. Three hours later, it was time for bed, and I hadn't written down a single thing, but I knew P!nk's real name, so it wasn't completely wasted. * [[{{Tropers/Guardyanangel}} This Troper]] started out her internet browsing today by looking up the book {{Graceling}} on this wiki. How she has ended up on this page is not entirely clear, but she now has 43 tabs open (a relatively low number for her) and is still going... * The random function gave me the IxiaAndSitia page. Several clicks

later I had ended up at SuzumiyaHaruhi. * I wiki walk through my mind to make songs, like I get an idea, then a similar concept, then a similar concept and then I create another song based upon a different concept. ** I also Wiki Walk through life, knowledge is power! I can't actually remember how I got here. before I was on Fan Speak, but then Fan Speak related to Wiki speak, which related to Wiki, which I read, then I got to here! * This troper and her best friend although said best friend has it worse. She has learned to see when his mind takes wiki walks while talking to him on a serious subject and lassos him back. {{HilarityEnsues}} when the both of them take simultaneous wiki walks over a topic and compare junctions, or add. * I started at DanBrowned. I ended up here. Don't ask me how; I've been walking for four hours. * Wiki Walk? I call them Wiki Races! * Annebeeche: Forget the internet--I go on long WikiWalks in my ''brain''. Say I'm working on a piece of homework for Hamlet: >> Hamlet takes place in Denmark >> which is in Scandinavia >> I like Scandinavian culture >> I like Norse mythology >> The Norse gods are amusing >> Anglo-Saxons used to worship them too >> Anglo-Saxons wrote Beowulf >> I'm writing something based on Beowulf >> hahaha in my story Beowulf is an awkward teenage weakling >> he's also fun to draw let's draw Beowulf >> he was forced to go fight Grendel by his uncle because his uncle's a jerk >> his Uncle is the King of Geatland >> hey Hamlet's uncle is the king too >> oh wait I was supposed to be working on Hamlet >> I like Hamlet >> I like Shakespeare >> My favorite of his plays is Macbeth >> I remember I cast Ewan McGregor as Macbeth once >> Ewan McGregor is sexy in a kilt >> Ewan McGregor is sexy in general >> his role as Obi Wan could have saved the Star Wars prequels >> too bad the prequels sucked so hard that no amount of Ewan McGregor could have saved them >> George Lucas should not have directed them and/or written the screenplays >> Irvin Kershner should have instead because Empire Strikes Back was the best out of all three Star Wars films >> the original Star Wars was awesome >> Star Trek is cool too >> Gene Roddenberry died 20 years ago >> Some of his ashes were shot into space in a lipstick tube >> Supposedly Disney was cryogenically frozen >> but I know that's bullshit >> I love Disney's animated classics >> The Lion King is one of my favorites >> Scar is probably one of the best villains in all of Disney history >> The Lion King was loosely based on Hamlet >> Hey, wasn't I supposed to be working on Hamlet? ** This is the main reason why I don't do very well at school, despite the fact that I understand the material. ** The fact that I am so susceptible to WikiWalks by ''nature'' is the reason why I will never be able to responsibly use the Internet. (Unless I'm given enough time to come back around, that is) * I got from ShadowOfTheColosuss to YouTube videos of sphynx cats giving birth. * Here is the tab count over time: Jan 2, 21 tabs. Jan 3, 46 tabs. Jan 7, 184 tabs. Jan 8, 202 tabs. Jan 22, '''326 fa-reaking tabs.''' ** For my second wiki walk, I have: Jan 17, 103 tabs. Jan 21, 212 tabs.

** I will be splitting that first walk into seven different ones with 50 tabs each (26 for the last one.) I might split the second into 5 of the same. ** Please post a screenshot of Task Manager/whatever utility where I can see tha RAM usage of your browser. * I've managed to do this with print reference works, most recently ''The Concise Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy''. * I somehow managed to go from (something I can't remember, Dragon Age 2, probably) to Beat to Girl Genius to running through the Useful Notes on the US (and I '''live here''') one-by-one until I forced myself to stop at our educational system. Well, then to here. * Tropers/{{Owfin}}: The other day, I took a nine step wiki walk to go from TheAmericanCivilWar to MysteryScienceTheater3000. And I repeated a page once, so it was actually eight steps. * For the love of all things clickable, this deascribes every single time I open a browser. I remember once I was on a page about the first atomic bomb and I somehow got to HetaliaBloodbath2010 ... There was also another time where looking up Papmlona's Running of the Bulls led to Romeo and Juliet. Someone needs to drag me away from the compy before I click any more; I have 3 tabs up; "Multiple Personality Disorder" (Started as Jackie Kennedy), a blog on growing tomatoes (started as Sealand), and this very page (started as H.P. Lovecraft). GAH, HELP ME. * "Birdwalking", huh? I didn't know there was a word for one of my favorite pasttimes in grade school. Sometimes it was all that kept me awake. Any teacher appreciates feedback that shows someone's listening, and the more apathetic the rest of the class seems, the more likely they are to drift into tangents this way. ** You are totally right, it's like if the teachers were afraid of DeadAir. * When i don't have anything to do, i'm quite suceptible to mental wikiwalks while following a path of thinking but every time i realize this i try to get back in the road, sometimes is easy, other times not so much. ** Also my classroom is an expert in birdwalking teachers, to the point we know the private lives of many of them. * This troper, after closing her latest tab on something called "Prosopamnesia", then reading the wiki page on Saya No Uta(Which I will never do again), looked through her tabs, consisting of about 20 wiki pages on batman villians, bizarre and rare diseases, and a list of House episodes. This WikiWalk started by looking up Catwoman. * This troper and her best friend have joint WikiWalks. We might start by discusing something serious, like gay marriage, and eventually end up with something completely random, such as people who paint their animals. * This troper suffers from this almost every night; [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife y'know, the kind that, if left unchecked, will get you laid off.]] [[DownerEnding That last bit happened.]] I still do this. And sometimes, [[ArchiveBinge a similar sort of thing happens when I look back on old college files of mine.]] Good times. * This troper once went on TheOtherWiki to look up JumpingFlash, and ended up at "hot saucing"(the practice of putting Tabasco on a child's

tongue for swearing/lying/talking back). ---Now, you've finished reading that... which for some reason leads you back to WikiWalk.

WildTake * This editor suffers from high levels of anxiety. This means that he does Wild Takes for real. Including Kermit the frog style. They're rather therapeutic. ** On one memorable occasion, this troper was engaging in the somewhat inadvisable activity of slacking off at work while wearing headphones and paying more attention to the computer than her surroundings; in accordance with Murphy's Law, her boss came up behind her like a goddamn ninja and commented on the slacking. This troper went "WAUGH!" and shot upright forcefully enough to very briefly break contact with the chair entirely. *** That's my last name! * Show of hands, who else ''loves'' drawing these? * For an arachnophobic person, noticing that what you previously took to be a loose bit of cotton from your jumper tickling your hand is actually a decent sized spider is enough to draw one of these.

WildTeenParty '''- Note: please don't list Aversions and such, nobody is interested in a regular party where nothing happened.''' * When my mate finished 12th with decent grades, we celebrated. It was a normal party, until someone suggested two guys I didn't know should fight each other, because one of them is a judoka and the other one a capoeira practicioner "That way we will know which martial art is better". The two of them were [[{{Understatement}} a bit drunk]]... trashing, screaming and destruction of property ensued. Meanwhile, a popular guy and his "best friend" disappeared for about fifteen minutes. Some girls who were in the party think that buttsecks ensued, even to this day. * This troper's eighteenth birthday started out as a refined Tiffany & Co. themed affair. By four in the morning, I was dancing on a table in my underwear, making out with a man nearly ten years older and accepting money in the waistband of my briefs. * This troper's 18th birthday party has warranted intervention by both the police and the FIRE BRIGADE. I boast of it to this day, and i am 30-something. * I have attended one of my first at college and let's just say some parties are not worth the hype as some make them seem. * A wild freshman party (I WASN'T THERE!) at [[{{Lale}} This Troper's]] college ended when a drunk wrestling champ ripped a urinal valve off the wall and flooded the entire dorm, forcing the residents to spend the rest of the year in the haunted dorm that was scheduled to be renovated. * During a graduation party in this troper's high school, people

behaved reasonably well (people made a mess but didn't trash the place), but somebody tripped and fell right on the band's amplifier, and we had to refund them the cost, and the bar where the party was hasn't allowed people to hold such events there since. * This troper has been to plenty of raves and some wild parties (one was bondage-themed) but one stands out in particular because it ended in tragedy: ** When this troper was 16, a friend of a friend was throwing a party for her birthday. Word spread that this was going to be the ultimate party of the year. Hundreds of people were invited from the rich parts of Stockholm. The party was held in a school that had been rented over the weekend, and a kid with a baseball bat was the bouncer. After midnight the party really got started, with people drinking and dancing everywhere, girls puking outside, and some guy pissing in a sink. Everyone expected it to be really fun, but a serious brawl broke out outside. A rich kid was pissed and looking for a fight, and his gatecrashing friends were known to be football hooligans. A 16-yearold guy called Riccardo (this troper never knew him) had been hitting on his girlfriend for a while, and apparently the rich kid had decided "the faggot is gonna die". They beat up Riccardo - he got up, hit his attacker with a bottle, and ran for it. But these guys chased after the injured Riccardo, took him down, and '''kicked him until he died'''. Afterwards, everyone was in confusion. This troper doesn't remember much more of the party, except that he was drunk and took a taxi home. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riccardo_Campogiani This is the Wikipedia article]] *** This troper found out most of these details after it had happened. *** I remember that :/ I wasn't at the party, mind you, what with being like thirteen or something at the time, but it was all over the news and I went to the memorial service. Made me a little scared of going out to party in the future and stuff. *** This editor knew one of the killers. As a kid, he was a violent bully and his whole grade were scared of crossing him. He enjoyed tormenting an adopted Korean kid, and much later became involved with a football hooligan firm (before the murder). * [[{{Nomic}} This troper's]] class held a very good example of these during one of our field trips, when we stayed a few nights in a hotel. This troper himself left before the situation got completely out of hand, but the next morning the room where the party was had was a complete mess, a TV had been thrown through a window, two guys had passed out in the hotel's ball pit and pretty much everybody had a terrible hangover, with some people being violently ill and one of his friends suffering from a nasty blow on the head after she attempted to perform a spagate and hit her head on a radiator. The hotel staff was furious, to stay the least, but strangely enough the teachers didn't mind much (probably because they were sitting in the hotel bar during the whole time). * This troper's 21st shindig had 150 revellers turn up to enjoy the festivities. This was slightly confusing, as we'd only invited 100. However, the most awesome thing? The 50 gatecrashers all showed up in the attire of the party (Heroes and Villains, for those who are interested).

* Every Rocky Horror Picture Show after party [[{{Azreal}} I've]] ever gone to since I was 16, though the age range was from 16 to 40. Rocky Horror folk are a strange bunch. * Our Campus Activities Board sponsored a showing of Rocky Horror at a local theater. 80% of the attendees were already drunk when they showed up. Cue beer bottles being thrown from the balcony, people dancing up on the stage, and at least one person falling through the screen, tearing it completely in half. The movie didn't even get halfway through before it was shut down, and it took 10 ''years'' before anyone would show that movie in town. * This troper's university biology class had a camp held in some cabins. Because this is Australia with a drinking age of 18 and it was a second year course, it was fully liquored up; the lecturer even went on liquor runs daily to the bottle shop in town. Anyway, one night ended with a guy putting his head through a door, people fighting with the fire extinguishers, someone urinating on the fireplace, and one guy puking over a balcony, falling off it, and landing in his puke. No sex as far as he experienced, saw, or heard, though two people ended up passing out fully clothed in a bathtub. * A brother and sister at this troper's high school threw a house party that over a hundred people ended up crashing. (This troper was rather square and bookish then, so he missed all the fun.) Over $2,000 worth of damage was done to the house, including cigarette burns and vomit stains all over the carpets and a thermostat ripped clear out of the wall. The parents, upon returning from vacation, made the kids pay every last cent for the damage. The next week I overheard two of their friends jokingly brainstorming a list of fundraising ideas ("bake sale," "car wash"...). * This troper has held some epic house parties in his time, but two incidents stand out. One involved two toilets, two sinks, one bath tub, and one shower all being occupied by vomiting teens. It turns out you have to let vodka jelly set or it goes down horribly wrong. * The second occasion spilled out into the park behind the troper's house. A few party-goers got mugged, others chased around the park shouting wildly about thieves before tracking one down and stealing their shoes as revenge. The party finally died when an attempt to demonstrate how to toss and catch a knife resulted in someone opening their palm sufficiently that we had to call an ambulance. * A friend's house party once ended with a broken terrarium, an escaped lizard, and neighbours knocking on the front door while most of us desperately scrambled over the back fence with as much of the remaining booze as we could carry. We ended up crashing out in a nearby scout hut because it was too late for any of the buses to be running to get us home. * [[TromboneChild This troper's]] two cousins held a party back in their teenage years (circa the mid-1990s) when my aunt and uncle went out of town, but they decided to be smart about it and take all of the family pictures down and put them away so they wouldn't get smashed and leave evidence of a party. They cleaned everything up and the house looked immaculate, except for one thing: they put all of the pictures back in the wrong places. My aunt and uncle figured it out almost immediately because of that.

* ItsALongStory to explain how he got into it, but this troper recently found himself at a wild frat party where apparently even his mediocre dancing was seen as awesome, things were broken, everyone else was drunk ("No, my name is not 'Kanye', and [[ReadOrDie please give me back my book]]!") or having sex, and there was not a spot of fresh air in the place. * The wildest party this troper ever went to was pretty crazy. I sadly went home early after being punched in the face by a drunk guy, but it was great fun. A friend punched through a wardrobe, two other friends ran around the house in togas, the police raided a couple of times (but fortunately didn't find anything illegal), and by the end of it, almost everyone had done at least one thing that they still haven't been allowed to forget. ** A COUPLE times? Wow. *** They could smell cannabis smoke, but they didn't find any weed. They came back when someone complained about the noise, searched the place again, and left grudgingly, telling us to keep the noise down. * Let's just see... A suburban house party began as a couple of guys sitting around drinking beer... and ended with the paintings from the living room being thrown through a window, the VCR being thrown through the TV screen, the toilet vanishing, and a guy trying to barter his left shoe for a beer. * Any party this troper's ever been to? Total inversion - her best friend's sweet 16 consisted of her, this troper, and another friend lying on a couch watching movies and eating popcorn for six hours before playing video games until three in the morning. ** Similar to this troper's: her sweet 16 (and quinceanera, while we're at it) were both spent doing... house cleaning. *** Similar here. This troper has never once been to a party I couldn't describe to my mother. Not only admit to attending, but describe. Despite (or possibly because of) this, I always had a completely fabulous time. * Neat subversion: this troper had a rather epic flat party last week, with about thirty people squeezed in (all known to this troper and his friends). Despite wild drunken behaviour, including dancing on tables, and a couple of people throwing up (thankfully in toilets), when the party wrapped up at about 3AM people offered to help clean up - and the flat actually ''looked better afterwards than it had before.'' Minus a ''lot'' of bottles stacked up about the place. ** Call it decoration. * Totally [[InvertedTrope inverted]] by this troper's friends, whose parties tend to involve more games of Economic Recession Monopoly and Doctor Who Tag than sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll. * This troper recalls a friend having a party that featured the clich vase being broken. The vase was a gift to the young man's mother. From the Price of Qatar. * This Troper recently stayed with three of his friends in a house in the rural west of Ireland. Yet, somehow, they still managed to throw a house party of such wildness the security for the house they were renting turned up, threatened to evict them all, and would only leave after they payed an extra hundred euro deposit. * Inverted for this troper - her idea of a wild party is watching

movies with two friends, starting a minor popcorn war, and falling asleep in a heap. * A few years ago, this troper's old classmates all got together to attend the funeral of a beloved former teacher. We later all got together for a little party. The host was one of the guys whose parents had basically thrown him out and who owned an apartment at the age of 16/17. Some of us, including this troper, went a little overboard. Our host got a bit of flak from his neighbors (as well as a police visit in the morning) after one of us managed to vomit down right onto the balcony of the tenants below us. A laptop disappeared from the bakery next door, but that was probably a coincidence. This troper woke up at five AM, naked and wet in the hallway of the apartment building next to his own, with someone's towel laid over him. To this day, the preceding events remain a mystery. * This troper recently had his first experience with truly wild partying. I'm a freshman in college and we had our homecoming weekend, which I had heard was always a nonstop party. However I didn't truly understand the scope of what people meant when they said this. I spent the night at a frat I have friends in. It was 9pm and the party was in the kind of drunken revelry you'd expect at around 2 in the morning. It only got better from there. I spent most of the night picking songs from my friend's laptop to be played over speakers loud enough to be heard halfway across campus, and personally jumped up and led the house in a call and response section of one well known and loved song. At some point someone thought it would be a good idea to get burgers at a Wendy's close to campus, which led to a few dozen people packing into cars and raiding the place. I only started drinking at around 1am, but by 4 I had personally drank nearly a case of beer. This being homecoming, half of the guests were alumni of the fraternity, and they turned it into a major dance party sometime around 4-5am. I ended up dancing on the chapter table with around 5 of the alumni. You aren't even supposed to put DRINKS on the chapter table. I finally stumbled back to my room around dawn. This was friday night-saturday morning. I still had alcohol in my system saturday afternoon and was hungover til tuesday. But it was so WorthIt. * This troper has been to a few, the most wildest being when he was 15 (just 16 now, so not long ago) where one of his friends threw a party which was full of booze, drugs, sexual acts, fights and plenty more (He shamelessly took part in all of these). The carpet got ruined, people where sick everywhere, but strangely enough there was no major damage. In the end the police turned up and atleast 3 girls got taken to the hospital to have their stomachs pumped. The police left, however, and the party still continued, but most people had stumbled home by then so it was a much more calmer atmosphere. This troper also has plenty more to look forward to, as he is going to sixth form college next year and then university, so there is atleast another 5 years of partying left - sweeeeeet. * This Troper's cousin had this happen to him in the most horrible way. His parents granted him permission to have four or five friends over for the weekend. When the college students across the street noticed the boys were home alone, they crashed it and invited everyone they knew. In the smartest move he could have made, he and his friends

locked themselves in the bedroom and called the cops. * This is the reason why this troper is sat in her party clothes with a headache, no shoes, feet in tights covered in stuff that got spilled on the floor over the night, with her friends house in a mess, wearing someone elses hat and has just got out of her friends bed. ** I just remembered what I did to hurt my knee! * This troper once got invited to a party, and invoked this trope with a couple of friends by keeping sober enough to screw up everything. The hosts managed to clear up the huge mess (even the one in his mom's underwear drawer), but they got in trouble when the parents wondered why the ice cube trays had frozen tequila in them. * This troper's class mate had a party that ended up turning into a drunken brawl on the street. Said class mate ended up with a $1,000 fine. This troper wasn't there though, she's not the wild party type. * Tropers/SunnyV has never been to one of these, and never really wants to. When her {{nakama}} gets together, they usually go to the park with Tropers/SunnyV's little sister, and then we play video games and talk about every possible subject till three in the morning. * I have never been to one (I'm not a party person), but I did get invited by a member of my English class when I said I said I hadn't been to one. Remembering my sister's bad experience of hosting one (and being busy on the same night), I declined. It turns out that said party was the birthday party of a guy I didn't particularly know, so it may have been for the best. * [[Tropers/DokEnkephalin This Troper]] went to a real housewrecker party; a friend was getting evicted and wanted to trash the place before going. Imagine a bunch of headnecks with sledgehammers and pure grain alcohol. No sheetrock was left standing. * This troper's major in college does every semester a "sexual costume party" (which despite the name, sometimes is not good). Standard parties usually fall into three categories: wilderness, decadence (as in "could've been better"), and [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs decadent wilderness]]. A particular class has thrown three parties that fall straight into the first camp: one included girls atop the bar counter dancing to questionable music while serving drinks (and an organizer said that after the party, "things NotOfThisEarth had to be cleaned!"), another had mooning freshmen (and the thrashing of the place was just as bad), and the third had again dancing barmaids, and also lesbianism, broken beer bottles, and chaos big enough for the building manager to come complaining... and eventually hit some girls. * The only parties this troper has are the ones at sleepovers with friends. However she did hear of one wild party ended in disaster (but don't most do?) with kids puking everywhere and some kids having sex on the parent's bed. I bet the host's parents were, uh... ''not happy''... * [[@/SoWeAteThem I]] avert this a lot. Even my 18th (well, the day it took place on) was spent just watching TV and listening to a CD I got, and the actual party was spent eating cake and turkey. I make it a point to stay clear of the behavior prevalent in these, (homecoming dances at high school were the ''worst'' cases) and to this day, the closest I've ever been to one was somewhere between cast parties after plays and an Eats Tapes concert. As if I was exactly the life of the

party. * My teacher spent the lesson talking about her daughter having a party like this and having to clean the house instead of teaching us today. Apparently there was sick in the bath, wee on the floor, hole punched in door and wall, glasses broken, teens making out in closet and shagging in parents bed, neighbours complaining of noise, loud music, empty bottles on every available surface and on the floor, crumbs crushed into carpet and loads of underage drunken teenagers. * Here in Southern California (where this troper lives), we have tons of ranches. Because of these ranches, this troper has heard of these so-called, "Ranch Parties". Apparently, they're the cool thing at my school, since the partygoers can go wild, because there are no neighbors to complain to the police. [[{{Understatement}} This is considered irony]], since the last ranch party that happened, the SWAT team raided the party three hours in. * This troper's eighteenth promised to be one. Hopes were dashed when it was proven that teenagers are capable of drinking in moderation and paying for things they break. Possibly the fact that people at my parties tend to talk about Camus and quote Dorothy Parker might have something to do with it. * I tend to hear about these more than I am ever invited to them. This is quite alright - I don't really see the fun in vomiting, causing massive property damage, and possibly making stupid or embarrassing mistakes. Maybe it's something you have to be taught... * My friends and I were attending a party that was treated like it's a once in a lifetime event at one of the campus gyms. My friends had some drinks before we went, but I didn't want any. We went and all of a sudden there were two big lines: one for guys and the other for girls. The girls got in fine, but the guys and I had to back up several times because people at the front kept trying to get in by shoving and students from other colleges kept going to the front instead of the back when they're just arriving. This caused the security guards at the entrance to resort to mace, spraying a couple of guys, including 2 of my friends (one of them got sprayed in the hair by mistake and one of them in the eyes). They were screaming in pain for some time. Also, some people in the line were also drunk and said nonsense. During the wait, it was raining lightly and it was cold. As soon as my friends and I got into the party, it ended after 10 minutes because some people decided to act foolish (Can't put my finger on what they did) and wreck it for everyone. This has ruined my night and everyone else's since we have waited for like a hour. It's like the event is telling me that not all parties are worth the hype; and I don't attend them often. At least my friends are in good health and not intoxicated. * Cast parties with students from this troper's school have had sex and body parts going through walls, but the only one this troper has been to had a bonfire and hours of dancing and grinding, near the end half of the people went inside to watch RENT, but then the police were called. They all had to come inside, but other than not it was not too wild. * [[{{Thereda}} This troper] went to a party thrown by a friend during the summer, which, through various types of alcohol and drinking

games, ended with him in his underwear, making out with 2 different girls, and a dude, and going crazy. Mind you, I only found out about all this when photos were put up on Facebook. I couldn't remember any of it. --Back to [[WildTeenParty the party!]] Just be sure to hide the evidence before your parents get home. --<<|TroperTales|>>

WillfullyWeak * I know someone who makes a habit of playing games like this, just because she's ridiculously confident and with good reason. When we play Duck Duck Zombie (like Duck Duck Goose, except the person who's chasing has to pretend to be a zombie), she usually lies down while waiting to be tagged. She gets everyone who tags her anyway. When she plays Egyptian Ratscrew (a card game, apparently the point is to get all the cards), even though you're supposed to split the deck among all the players, she insists on starting with no cards and beats everyone anyway. Smug jerk. * My character from my WoW roleplaying days was a humble ambassador and if violently confronted never did anything more than was necessary to subdue the opponant and always gave them a fighting chance too. Then his twin baby daughters were threatened. The elf responsible was then kicked through a granite wall. [[ItGotWorse Then he drew]] [[RazorFloss His weapons.]]

WillNotTellALie * Unlike most people on this page, this troper usually follows the spirit of this trope rather than the technicality. While she won't tell a lie, she doesn't twist her words or anything in most circumstances. This gives her a state of "my word is law" at school, where people will go to her to solve debates and accept her word on the veracity of rumors concerning her immediately. Of course, she doesn't abuse this power and she admits it when she doesn't know the answer; she doesn't use her honesty for the power but rather for the righteousness. High school rumors about "(troper) likes so and so!" don't last more than a day; either they're debunked or rendered uninteresting by confirmation. Debates on whether a goal in gym was valid are ended instantly by my word on what I saw - people tend to trust me too much! Just because I tell the truth doesn't mean I'm ''right''! ** Hmm...ok... ** This troper is similar. She makes it a point to always be honest as part of her personal moral code. * [[{{Cameoflage}} This troper]] falls squarely into the TechnicalPacifist ConsummateLiar subtype of this trope, because she really hates to say things that aren't true, and thus avoids telling

full-blown lies unless absolutely necessary, which she's very bad at anyways (although there are very occasional exceptions to this rule, such as how she doesn't seem to have a problem with agreeing with a statement that she knows isn't true so long as she doesn't add to it substantially); however, she misdirects people by [[FalseReassurance framing the truth or a portion thereof such that they'll draw the wrong conclusion from it]], or answering a question with something that's true but doesn't actually constitute a meaningful response to that question when examined closely. Or sometimes refusing to answer altogether (which is a lot less suspicious over the internets than in a real-life conversation, granted). ** [[EricDerKonig And this troper]] is the exact same way. Surprisingly, it's not as much of a handicap when playing [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy Diplomacy (the board game)]] as you might think. ** Ditto. ** -raises hand* This troper is pathologically incapable of even a little white lie. It will bother her for ''days''. ** Same. * This troper will tell the truth, as his dad pointed out, like a lawyer (he used a more era famous politician who I won't mention, but most of you probably figured out who it is. If you haven't maybe we should ask what the definition of is is...). If I kicked my brother, and my father asked me if I hit him, I would say no. [[LiteralGenie I never hit him, I kicked him.]] It's a talent this troper doesn't use often, if your definition of often is EVERY time he is in trouble. ** Given that one of the definitions of "hit" is "A collision or impact", and given that your foot collided with your brother, then you have indeed lied. In the standard definition of the word. You would probably be better off saying something like "I did not even 'once' hit, struck, or kicked my brother" - which, depending on how many times you actually hit him, could be very much true. *** I'm afraid that this [[YouFailLogicForever fails to meet the standards of rigorous mathematical logic]]. Blows land one at a time, not all at once. Therefore if you hit someone three times, there was a point in time at which you had only hit him twice, and another point in time at which you had only hit him once -- making the above statement false. The only way that statement can be true is if the number of blows inflicted (by whatever means) was zero. * Prevarication is indeed a handy skill to master. ** Not really. It's just another form of lying, only more limited. You have less flexibility in what you say, so you're more likely to be found out, and if you ''are'' found out people react just as badly as if you actually lied, since there's fundamentally no difference in intent. Prevarication is childish, get some balls and lie if you need to lie. * This troper is the embodiment of this, Half-truths and {{Brutally Honest}} galore! I also don't appreciate people rewording my sentences, because of the way they are carefully arranged. ** Totally know what you mean about getting your sentences paraphrased. That annoys me too; I'll get a sentence just right --

it'll both convey ''just'' the right meaning and sound good -- and then someone'll restate it so it either sounds kind of dumb or distorts the intended meaning (often revealing subtle misunderstandings on their part) or both. * This troper can count on one hand the amount of times she's told an all-out lie. She tries to avoid half-truths too, but wouldn't absolutely ban them. And if you ask her to lie for you, cover all sensitive bodily areas. * This troper involuntarily freezes in mid-utterance if He tries to *lie* but has nearly perfected the art of sculpting the truth in such a way as to allow it to appear in different forms, depending upon one's point of view. He may have to go into politics. ** You too? Though [[JChance this troper]] also tends to get into trouble when someone puts him on the spot with a yes-or-no question. * This troper has trouble with lying and other forms of deceit. This doesn't mean he doesn't conceal information, however - he just ''doesn't tell it to people.'' On those occasions where somebody is actively seeking a secret, the honest phrase "I don't want to tell you that" works extremely well. ** MutantRancor is the same way. "Not my secret to tell" also works well, if it really isn't your secret. Or just "Not talking, don't ask again." * This troper hates to lie. Also - despite being able to cheat a polygraph and most {{LivingLieDetector}}s - he only lies when he protects someone or a secret. However, in his case [[WeirdnessMagnet telling the truth isn't easy sometimes...]] * [[JusticeReaper This troper]] is a ''very'' bad liar, and will in fact feel extremely uncomfortable if he tries to lie or even twist the truth. Additionally, being lied to is one of his [[BerserkButton rage triggers]]. * This troper tries to avoid lying to friends as an excuse as then he has to remember what lie he has told to who and will thus have trouble avoiding being caught out. However there are some situations where I will lie as it's only a quick short lie that won't impact later events and i can get away with it. Even still, I try to keep it to only a last resort. * This troper not only qualifies, but also is a very bad liar when he needs it, frequently messing up. * Subverted! This troper lies like a two dollar whore. Which is to say, frequently and with little reason. * This troper has an RP character who functions exactly this way, due to hating bald-faced lies. He's also a LivingLieDetector. It's quite fun. He himself isn't fond of lying either, but understands the occasional necessity. * This troper's brother will rat on himself. It's a compulsion from his OCD. * [[SovietKitty This troper]] is shamelessly manipulative to those who mistreat her and is ''can'' lie perfectly and always be believed, but not to nice people or strangers at all; it's practically a physical impossibility to even tell a tiny fib or lie-by-omission to those she cares about and is also a LivingLieDetector. * Subverted with This Troper, who is a perfect liar to every single

person in the world except his parents. A bit of a habit that he can lie perfectly, since almost nobody realizes he is lying. * Somewhat subverted with this troper, who is totally willing to lie to his family and parents about a lot of things but wouldn't dream of lying to any of his friends, especially his closer friends. * This troper used to have a terrible aversion to telling even little white lies, until the day when she confessed to telling one and ended up offending somebody ''completely by accident'' with the truth. Now she doesn't really care whether she tells the truth or not, as long as it keeps things peaceful. * This troper combines it with IGaveMyWord and TechnicalPacifist. It has the side-effect of making him parse sentences like a lawyer. Partial subversion, however, in that some people assume he is lying because it takes him so long to mentally construct a sentence, and the knowledge that people doubt his veracity stresses him sufficiently to throw up frequent false positives with actual lie detectors. On the few occasions that he ''does'' actually lie, he has created a part of his mind that believes it to be true, in a similar manner to "getting into character" for an actor: he knows it to be fiction, but is prepared to take the part of someone that believes it to be true. * '''Those of you who claim to be actual liars, how do we know you're not lieing about it?''' ** Wait, what? ** The Epimenides Paradox. Look it up. That was a very poor set-up, though. ** Especially with the blatant tyop. * This troper has had several friends who qualify. One was following radical honesty, whereas the other seemed to have taken a page out of WheelOfTime. * This troper plans at some point to play an entire game of Mitadake High without telling a single lie, but also without giving away any information that isn't necessary. For those who don't know- Mitadake High is a game built entirely on manipulating people. * A case of this being in my fiction, a nihilistic computer of mine has decided the one thing it would never, ever, in a million years to do, is tell a lie. Not because of programming; well, it has that in its programming, but it got around that centuries ago. It will never tell a lie because ''the truth is far more terrible.'' * Due to being The Fettered, This Troper does his best not to lie. So far, he cannot remember the last lie he told that was not "I'll be up in a minute. *sleepy*". But he has on occassion twisted the truth, but only out of necessity to avoid an argument. * Whenever this troper tries to tell a lie, the amount of ticks that appear are quite astounding. Unfortunately, most people tend to think that this is so over-the-top that I am using it to as a double-bluff and am Obfuscating Stupidity, and so examine all my other statements minutely. This is annoying. * This troper has outright lied very, very few times. Not out of any sort of moral code - but because she is paranoid that if she lies, it will somehow be found out. Thus, she only lies when she's certain no one could possibly figure out the truth. White lies, half-truths, evasions, and excuses are all perfectly acceptable in her eyes and

don't trigger the paranoia. Thankfully. * Many people (mistakenly) assume this of this troper. I believe that's how I'm able to get away with some pretty big ones. * [[Tropers/SunnyV My]] [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling little brother.]] * Lying and deception are two of my biggest pet peeves (vast understatement there), so I try to remain as honest as possible unless the situation absolutely requires me to lie. * This troper has got away with things by being completely honest but saying it in such a way that the person I was talking to thinks Im joking. When told not to get up to anything when my parents went away for the weekend I grinned and replied ok then, just a mid size piss up with drugs, sex, drinking games and burnt pizza, they just laughed, I did exactly what I said I would. * [[{{Tropers/Cryolemon}} This troper]] has (fairly mild) Asperger's Syndrome, and I don't like flat out lies. What I consider to be lying though is somewhat complex, and I have been known to take advantage of this. For example, lying by omission isn't lying, neither are "Lies to children". In addition, I find it easy enough to use ExactWords to avoid actually lying. * I used to have [[TheSociopath no problem with lying]], viewing it as a crucial part of life in order to avoid trouble with my [[WhyCouldntYouBeDifferent perfectionist parents]]. However, recent medication changes have exacerbated my anxiety problems, somehow resulting in the inability to tell even a little white lie without being consumed by guilt. And simply [[YouDidntAsk hiding the truth]], which I relied on immensely? [[KeepingSecretsSucks Can't do that either.]] ---This link will take you back to WillNotTellALie. Honest. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WindmillPolitical * In the Board-game Junta, the players take the role of the corrupt government of a banana republic. The goal is to steal as much money as possible from the people and smuggle it to your {{Swiss bank account}}. This troper with friends once roleplayed one game session as Manipulative Bastards who tried to divert attention by pointing to various windmills. Sure the country was in trouble, but that couldnt possibly be caused my corruption. Oh no, we all have to unite against [[HeteronormativeCrusader the REAL threat to society: The homosexuals]]. * "If we allow homosexuality, we'll have to allow masturbation, incest, rape, bestiality..."

WindowsOfTheSoul * I was very confused by this trope when I was a child. I'd try to look directly into people's eyes (instead of at their faces or even the general area surrounding their eyes; I was quite a literal-minded

kid) for emotional cues and I just saw relatively unexpressive eyeballs. For years, I couldn't figure out if the authors were full of crap or if everyone except me could read people's mental state from their eyes. * After a long ride on an emotional roller coaster with [[@/{{MiraShio}} my]] LoveInterest and his RomanticFalseLead, I slyly told him how I felt through a note that only the two of us understood. Cue his eyes lighting up stupidly... and adorably. * This trope is very literal for this troper. Being able to see people's eyes is very, very important, to the point where sunglasses freak her out because she CAN'T TELL WHAT THE OTHER PERSON IS THINKING if she can't see their eyes! ** I've discovered somthing similar. When people speak to me with sun glasses, I've noticed that I don't look into their eyes, and I'm not exactly sure where to look. So I just focus on the part between the lenses. Knowing this makes me feel uncomfortable talking with people with them on now. ---I could see in her eyes that she wanted to go back to WindowsOfTheSoul.

Wingdinglish * [[Tropers.ReikoKazama This troper]] types ''[[BeyondTheImpossible whole documents]]'' in Wingdings. And the weird thing is, ''I can actually read it.'' I can read the Wingdings numbers, letters and symbols as if they were normal numbers, letters and symbols. And I first found out I could do this when I was '''''ten'''''. Huh. * Tropers/LickyLindsay: In high school, I knew a boy and girl who exchanged letters to each other in the {{Ultima}} alphabet. ** This troper knows someone who was actually using windings for that; they even made a cypher wheel for it. * This troper for some reason writes most of his notes in transliterated Greek. Or occasionally Daedric if the class is really boring. * When we were younger me and my brother liked writing a few MS Word files in Wingdings (yes, the actual font) as a sort of code. Years later, MS Word has deleted all versions of Wingdings off our computer. Now we can't translate any of those files. Ha, yeah, I know. * [[Tropers/{{Artemis92}} This troper]] used to use the [[{{Bionicle}} Matoran]] alphabet once in a while, and recently tried writing in spirals, like the Gnommish language in ArtemisFowl. He has ciphers for both, by the way. * Some dead language or another, looks sorta like Norse, but not quite. Works like a charm for personal notes. * [[Tropers/PentiumMMX2 This troper]] had made use of it in the past. For many years, my sister and I would exchange notes in actual Wingdings just for the fun of it (Once we got a newer PC, we'd sometimes switch the original Wingdings out with Webdings, Wingdings 2, and Wingdings 3). Also, I have written notes using the symbols from {{Bionicle}} (Mostly because of a game I was playing on the Lego website at the time, based on Bionicle; where knowing how to read the

runes provides hints on where to go and what to do) * [[Tropers/JosephStaleknight I've]] invented ''several'' kinds of neographies just for the purposes of writing English. One such has been published by Omniglot [[http://www.omniglot.com/writing/hieraticeng.php here]], while another has seen its use in [[{{ptitlefd8lbhrn}} a webcomic]]. * ''Frostsabre.'' We tried to use a PowerPoint on the internet for our APEUR class (on the aftermath of WWI, IIRC) and PowerPoint threw up these errors about the font that she used. Guess what font the software chose. ---<. /&^$ ]. [[{{Wingdinglish}} {#,<")#,<"*#!%]] ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WinterRoyalLady * This trope got my attention when I was walking through the video section at Target, and on one of the endcaps was the ''DoraTheExplorer'' video called "The Snow Princess". I wouldn't have noticed, if not for [[EverythingsBetterOnDrugs what Kevin Smith said about it]] (even though I'm sober). * [[SovietKitty This troper]]'s mother always tells her she looks like this, due to her love of light-colored, sparkle-embroidered winter gear, extremely pale skin, and preference for fancier clothes, plus the fact that she loves the cold and prefers it to stay under forty Fahrenheit. * A character from a story this troper is trying to write is a [[WinterRoyalLady Winter Royal]] [[SpearCounterpart Lord]]: Arctic Monarch Veyron. ---The Snow Princess beseecheth thee return to WinterRoyalLady. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WinTheCrowd * [[LordTNK I was]] reluctant to watch ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'' due to HypeAversion. Then when I heard the angel shaking the city streets in the first episode, and I realized this wasn't going to be handled like a typical anime. (LordTNK) * In the first few pages of the first ''{{Discworld}}'' book, "The Color Of Magic", there is this line that got me hooked on the series (LordTNK): -->"Let's just say that if complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are bastards'." * In the very first ''PowerpuffGirls'' cartoon, they have to leave kindergarten to fight the villain. The teacher admonishes them for running off, and Blossom says, "Teacher, may we be excused to save the

world." And then after they left, another kid said. "Teacher, I have to save the world too." Still makes me chuckle when I think about it. (LordTNK) * When "[[CrowningMusicOfAwesome The Musashi Legend]]" played in the first area of ''BraveFencerMusashi'', I just kept playing. (LordTNK) * Like many ''{{Transformers}}'' fans, I was initially skeptical of ''TransformersAnimated''. By the time the first fight with Megatron was over, I had concluded that this was the best ''Transformers'' series since Beast Wars. The show has yet to let me down. * Although "[[{{Firefly}} The Train Job]]" did kind of suck, it did win me fully over when Mal kicked TheDragon into the intake. * The {{Speed Racer}} film - I didn't much care for seeing it when it came out in theaters, but after it came out on DVD, I decided to check it out (via rental) on a whim. All it took was the first ten minutes to convince me to buy the DVD (which I did). It really is an underrated movie. ([=StevieWillShowYou=]) * I initially walked into ''{{Kung Fu Panda}}'' not really expecting much. The 2-D Dreamworks logo and opening sequence as a whole were quick to change my mind, but the moment I realized I was inexplicably in love with the film came early on in the line (blueeyesforlife): -->"It is said that his enemies would go blind from over-exposure to ''pure awesomeness''!" -->"AAUGH, MY EYES!" -->"HE'S TOO AWESOME!" * This troper was absolutely CERTAIN that ''[[TwentyFour 24]]'' was a dumbass show. The same day over and over? Spies? Kiefer "Got no career since the Lost Boys" Sutherland??? This troper rented the DVD of the first four eps of the first season just to see what the hype was about. He was intrigued, right up to the part where ''the freaking ditzy slut is revealed to be some sort of Bond villain who blows a hole in the plane at 30,000 plus feet, parachutes out, and then '''blows up the plane for good measure'''.'' This troper has been a stone-cold ''24'' fan ever since and has converted about a dozen more. * For this troper, ''Sweeney Todd'' did this just around the line "At last - my arm is complete again!" and the swelling music. * This troper wasn't really interested by ''OuranHighSchoolHostClub'', until episode 5, when Nekozawa showed up. The guy's freaking cool. * At first, [[PentiumMMX2 This troper]] didn't have any desire to watch StargateSG1; after all, his sister's ex-boyfriend liked it (Seeing as he hated almost everything I liked, I already figured that was reason enough to not watch it). Several years later, during the summer, I decided I might as well give SG1 a try; seeing as my local library had a DVD with the first 5 episodes of the series. After finishing the first disc of it, I was hooked; buying my own copy of the Season 1 box set, so I could finish watching it. It's still one of my favorite Sci-Fi shows; up there with {{Warehouse 13}} and Series/DoctorWho. * Tropers/{{Excel-2010}}. I had heard of LaMulana many times before I actually played it. With nothing to do for the summer, I decided to pick it up. It was only then when I learned it was a tribute to the MSX and that [[NintendoHard it was only for the brave]]. The moment I heard [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome the first few notes of the first area

BGM]], I knew this was going to be a good time. ---Back to WinTheCrowd. Free muffins for everyone, forever! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WiperStart A case of TruthInTelevision, as many shame-filled tropers admitted on YKTTW. * Which this troper calls shenanigans on. In no car he has owned or driven have the windshield wipers been able to wipe without the car being turned on beforehand. ** They can in this troper's father's car. ** And in [[{{Hremsfeld}} This one's]], though the battery has to be on. (Often [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] on his standard to clear off the windshield BEFORE moving his 1.5 ton weapon.) ** I came reasonably close in my ''second'' car, after driving my first for several years. The first car was an automatic with the shift lever on the steering column; the new car was an automatic with the gearshift on the floor. Guess what was on the right side of the steering column? Get in the car, start it up, go to put it into drive (or reverse), and... ''wipe''! * Oddly enough, at this Troper's job (car wash) this does happen on occasion when people start up their cars, and for some reason it only happens to women. She suspects it has something to do with cars that have the gear shift on the right side near the wiper lever and people accidentally hitting that. ** You can also do this in a Saturn [=SL2=], 2002 model with the engine off *shame*. * Also, this troper has seen someone pull this off with a ''trolley car''. Luckily they weren't the ones driving... * This editor took driver's ed with another student, and every time either of us tried to make a left turn, on came the wipers. * This troper briefly sold cars and, because the Dodge Charger uses a control configuration left over from when full size cars always had tree shifters, often turned on the wipers when trying to turn on the headlights. * Although this troper has occasionally knocked the wiper lever by accident, causing it to switch on, he would have thought it would be obvious even to children who don't know a thing about driving, that the lever with the clearly marked picture of a windscreen with a wiper on it, probably does not play a critical role in convincing the car to move forward. * Every time this troper's father has taken the family out on a weeklong vacation to the other side of the country, we have to rent a car. The family car is pretty old, and none of the rental agencies have that particular make and model in their fleets any more. Three guesses what happens the first time he tries to turn on the headlights.

* This troper has never personally done this, but can see it happening easily at night or if she wasn't actually looking, since the family car has two identical-save-the-labels levers on either side of the steering wheel. * This troper is somewhat proud to admit that she has never done this herself, but her sister kept attempting to indicate with the windscreen wipers due to the levers being on different sides in the instructor's car to the home car. * Most of the time after having driven around in the rain, this troper will forget to turn the wipers off when shutting off the car and exiting, and will completely forget it the next time he'll go driving, partly because he doesn't go around driving too often. It's not surprising for the wipers to start up before the car does, as such. * This troper who only drives when home for holidays has done this twice. In my defense, my family has three cars, and I usually get saddled with whichever one nobody else needs for the day, and one of them has the ''gear shift'' where the other two have wiper levers. DamnYouMuscleMemory comes into play as often as "I haven't driven a car in five months." * [[DaNuke Da_Nuke]], fortunately, has only done that by knocking the wiper lever by accident. * This troper always makes a point of checking all of the various levers and handles to see which ones do what. She still gets confused on which side the door to open the gas intake is, though... ** I do that, too, and we've had the same car for easily six or seven years now. * Not quite the same but... As a [=USian=] every time we rent a car in a British influenced country (or Japan) most of the first attempts to signal a turn result in a chorus of "raining again?". And when it ''is'' raining the song is "we don't turn here!". We have spent up to three months in left-side-of-the-road countries, but these still occur, albeit with gradually decreasing frequency. * [[{{Leradny}} This troper]] was, in fact, very good at driving when she started to learn. So much so that during one routine lesson, she turned the headlights on with the turn signal at the start of the lesson as a legitimate accident. It being broad daylight, this troper didn't realize it until ''two hours later'', when her mother took over to drive them home. * Every time ''every'' time, you'd think I'd learn I drive my mom's car, I pull the wiper lever trying to put it in gear. The odd thing is her car's gear lever is in approximately the same place as my car's, while I don't have trouble with my dad's car, which does have the gear lever on the steering column. * [[KingSonnDeeDoo This Troper's]] first time behind the wheel of a car (as her mother had taken her out for a test practise before her first lesson) started with said troper setting of the wipers, making the car kangaroo hop foward, and then stalling it. She still manages to accidentally set the wipers off, but it's more a case of her Mum's car being ''really flipping small'', said troper having rather long legs, and the lever for the wipers being fairly low down. * This Troper (and his mom) has flicked the ''rear'' windscreen wipers of the family car on a couple of occasions in an attempt to turn on

the headlamps. * This troper has similar problems with driving his mother's car. Modern 'ergonomics' mean cramming everything onto sticks with infinite combinations, rather than button with discrete functions. Cue cycling through light and wiper options trying to clear the windscreens, flashing high beam headlights when trying to cancel or change indicators, and so forth. * This troper's mom [[InvertedTrope inverted]] this trope when she got a new car recently, attempting to turn on the windshield wipers but preforming other functions such as signaling and flashing the headlights instead. * This troper is bad at remembering to turn the wipers off when he stops the engine. The next time the car is started, the wipers start up when the ignition is turned on. * This troper was buying a new car. Was taking it out for a test drive, got back to the dealership, stopped...the new vehicle had the wiper controls where my previous one had had the gearshift. The salesman was getting out of the car, just as I sprayed the windshield washer...not quite a wiper start, but the principle's the same. * This troper was playing around with her new second hand car. My baby cousin crawled into my lap and start touching things, Que windscreen wipers. * [[{{Premonition45}} This troper]] was just getting ready to go, when he somehow switched the wipers on instead of the headlights. * Stalling the car during driving lessons usually prompted me to rapidly reach for the key to restart the engine... and usually hitting the switch for the rear wiper in the process. * This troper doesn't have problems with starting the cars he learned to drive on, but has issues accidentally turning the wipers on via the turn signal controls (the turn signal is a large stick that goes up or down, the washer controls are on the edge of the stick and rather loose) ---Return to [=Wiper Start=] [[YoungestChildWins here]]. Er... [[RuleOfThree here]]. No wait, maybe [[WiperStart this one]]. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WiseBeyondTheirYears * This troper was having verbose discussions with his parents and teachers about subjects like Causality, Philosophy, Politics, Objectivism, Religion, and the Afterlife by the time he was 13. * [[@/KatanaCat This Troper]] is 13. And... has been reading ElGoonishShive for ''years''. She also reads ExterminatusNow and [[http://www.themysticalforestzone.com/PDF/TSAT/001.htm There's Something About Tails]]. And was read novels at night, when other kids were being read Little Red Riding Hood. And used to use a lot words that her peers didn't understand, to the point that she has to train herself not to in order to have a conversation without people asking

for definitions. Here's an example of a conversation she's had in an online chat room: ->'''Kat-The-Feline:''' I'm bored... ->'''Black-Rowz:''' r u relly 13? u type like a grown man! This Troper (13) has often been told by her teacher that she reminds her of a univeristy student and her friends have often told her to grow down. * [[@/{{Mozaic}} This Troper]] really, really hates it when people go and type lazily. --->liek dis man i can't stand it ** In all seriousness people will point me out as a Grammar Nazi. I actually like typing in proper english over the internet. It makes me seem more mature and actually contributes to conversation over the internet, because no one will take any sort of "l33t sp33k" or "txt lingo" seriously. I just type in proper English because I want to stand out in the crowd and prefer to take the road less traveled. ** '''''Thank''''' you! All these years, [[@/{{Unhari}} I]] [[{{There Is Another}} thought I was alone.]] ** This troper doesn's do it to stand out, she does it because that's the way she writes, and because half of the time, the social networks she uses are actually deviantART and various fanfiction and blogging sites. And on Fanfiction.net, she was always getting along better with the rare writers who are over 18, which isn't a big deal now that she's 16, but it's been like this for years now. This troper also practically co-raises her much younger sister along with her mother, but other than that, she doesn't see herself as mature at all, being a rather bad student and a Naruto fan. But appearanly, starting to analyse situations randomly when I have nothing to say, being a deadpan snarker (and not even full-time, not to mention that it sounds rather lame with a Russian accent) and reading books automatically makes me smart. At least according to all the people who are surprised when I get bad grades because they expect me to be smart. * This troper's mental age floats approximately four to six years in front of her chronological age; in other words, she acted like a teenager between about nine or ten and thirteen -- she spent several months posting on an internet forum at the age of eleven, and comes off like she's fifteen or sixteen in those archived posts -- and has acted like a young adult since she was approximately fourteen. (She's matured some more, or at least mellowed out, between 14 and her current age of 17, but this seems comparable to how people change in college.) Her circle of friends then and now (different groups) also support this hypothesis: at eleven she hung around with people in their mid-to-late teens and some college students, and now her friends range from 20 to 31. (She and the 31-year-old are outliers; the average age is 23 and a half.) As a side effect, at the time she didn't notice anything unusual about the kids in works listed under MostWritersAreAdults. However, ''wise'' is definitely not a word she would have used to describe herself before 14 or 15; she was nave, myopic (both figuratively and [[{{Meganekko}} literally]]), and acted

like your standard bratty teenager. * This troper always had to be wise beyond his years, between being the only person teaching his little sister morals by the time he was in fourth grade (his sister is four years younger than him) to having studied his father's business practices by sixth grade. He has also always been mistaken for much older than his is (although at least part of this is because of his appearance, it does keep going even when talking to people) up to the point where he has never been carded (he doesn't drink, but he has had a couple of reasons to go into bars) and always having at least a few friends five to six years older than him (some of which he knew for years before they found out his real age because, well, they never asked) * This troper's mother got her a mental age test done at around seven. Troper herself can't remember the specifics of it, but apparently she ended up with a mental age of ''forty''-something. They concluded something had to be wrong. Right afterwards, Troper admitted to having been manipulating the test answers to her benefit, in order to increase the results. * [[@/{{AMereServantofGod}} This troper]] doesn't know about actual wisdom (though he believes he is ahead of most teenagers in that area as well,) but in terms of morality and philosophy I am far beyond my years and far beyond anyone I know (except maybe my parents) and most people I've heard of. ** Wow, that sounds a lot like me. Though I was also often told that my reading and writing abilities were several years ahead of my age (and at seventeen, I can still write what are apparently universitylevel essays with less effort than I thought was necessary). ** Same here. My reading and vocabulary are just about college level, although due to minor disability my writing skills leave a '''lot''' to be desired. As far as morality and philosophy go, I like to think I'm ahead of my peers in these areas. * Whenever I meet new people, they call me sixteen and my sister fourteen. I'm fourteen, she's seventeen. * @/{{Smerf}}: people keep thinking I'm between 4 and 10 years older than I actually am. * [[@/{{Kaizykat}} This Troper]] is an only child who really didn't interact with other children until she entered school. It's not that she acts older than she is (In reality, she still acts child like), but she can grasp abstract ideas (Quantum physics, anyone?) and she knows how to manipulate people so that she can get what she wants. For example, she self taught herself to read at four, but her parents didn't find out that she could read until she entered school. She had fooled her parents into thinking that she was illiterate so that they would keep reading books to her. The majority of her friends are at least a year or two older than she, but she somehow winds up being the TeamMom. * When this troper was two years old with genius IQ and a raving case of uncontrolled childhood bipolar, her mother was frequently asked, "How old is she, twenty?" * This troper started out as a fairly stupid child who began reading late but over time she gained momentum and outpaced her age so now at fifteen she is quite wise and can grasp complicated concepts that

others her age group cannot. She is also quite mature and when she wants to, she can be very philosophical, to the point of discussing such things with her mother. Of course, being an introverted nerd with a rather...[[KidsAreCruel troublesome past]] does not help matters. * This troper is 17 (turning 18 in October). When I was 8 I was tested for different mental disabilities. They thought I had Asperger's (and I might, though I've never had trouble reading emotions), they determined that I was at a High School reading level at the time. My parents have both admitted that I'm more mature than my 46 year old aunt, for the record. * This troper is mentally and emotionally older than most people her age and has always gotten on better with adults. it seems intelligence, common sense, empathy, shyness, feeling like AllOfTheOtherReindeer, reading a lot, dyslexia and in early childhood having to learn what facial expressions meant because you didn't instintively know add up to this, and it always feels like a part of her is watching the rest of her (woo hoo, I'm a Discworld witch). This is a case of BlessedWithSuck. You're out of sync with most people your own age, and you find quite a few people older than you a bit silly, and your not an adult so you can't really get on with adults properly yet, because while I am old for my years I am still a ''teenager''. My family tells me this will get better. * This troper has been described as an "old soul". He's gotten along with his teachers more easily than his peers most of his student career and usually his teachers treat him as an equal, having serious discussions with him on the subjects being taught rather than just dispensing answers. * This troper wouldn't go as far as "wise", but my mother has said several times that I was 12 when I was born and just stayed ahead. I ''was'' reading by the time I was three, and always got along better with the teachers than the other kids ... but being a bully magnet will do that. ** Did I enter this? ...No, I was reading by age ''two.'' The rest matches up, though! * This troper has been told by EVERYONE that she is a hell of a lot more mature then everyone in my grade. I am the only one who does not bitch about anyone, actually knows what my morals are and doesn't complain when one of my friends goes off to sit with someone else for one lunch time. Incidentally, I am the person that all my friends go to when they have problems and I have been told by all the teachers who deal in emotional intelligence or psycology that I am the most mature person they know. However, this leads to me constantly switching between different groups of friends because their maturity levels are different from mine and I just lose interest in the conversation as soon as it starts. Thus my friends think that I am "sick" or that something is wrong with me or that I'm just being a bitch. Oh yeah, I'm only 14. * This tropers is this trope and a subversion of this trope. People on usenet were suprised when it turned out i was only 17 (they thought i was 35+), some people on irc asked me if I was 50+, my girlfriend thinks my use of old fashioned words is cute and at my job in the library people think that someone my age just can't know the stuff I

know about older (childrens) books, music, tv-shows and movies. This is all partly attributed to the age of my parents, who were pretty old to get their first kid back then and their taste in entertainment rubbed off on me and I have been reading a lot as well as a kid. Subversion: Other people think that my interests/sense of humour are childish, my taste in music is horrible old-fashioned/childish trite and that I'm curmudgeonly old fart at the fine age of 28. So yeah, take the good with the bad. * [[@/TheTallOne My]] Mother once said my brother and I were born thirty years old, and have only aged since. This made for extremely awkward teen years, as both of us really didn't care for teenagers at the time. * This troper has been asked a good handful of times about which university she's going to. Before she's even hit eighth grade. These people include a tour guide, a nineteen-year-old international worker, a traveler, several colleagues of her father, and that's just the beginning. On the Internet, the lowest people have guessed her age was seventeen (when she was twelve, and the ages have gone higher since). In her boarding school, people keep mistaking her for a junior or senior. In her camp, people make the same mistake. Because of this, the people her actual age hate her and think that she's a pretentious ass. It makes her wonder. * [[@/{{Crion87}} This troper]] is an incongruous mix of this and ManChild, while he has a mature and even spiritual perspective on things (he has been called an "old soul" by his NewAgeRetroHippie mother), he still remains somewhat like a young teen even though he has been told he can be a lot like someone aged over 40 (perhaps that's why [[{{IfYouKnowWhatIMean}} his first lay]] was in her early thirties and had him when he was 21). * This troper, age 16, was reading at age three and has maintained a love for words, stories, and character analysis ever since. Casual study of the workings of the human race naturally followed, and with that a disdain for dumb decisions (even though I still make them). In middle school, my mom told me that teachers said I "tread a wide circle" around the other students maturity-wise. Proof I was still sort of immature? I didn't internalize this until I was 15, and spent most of my preteen years crying about how I wasn't cool enough to be friends with the girls that talked endlessly about their hair and handbags and probably wished I'd fall off the planet. Oh well. * This troper has been mistaken in both looks and attitude for a 28-30 year old. He's 22. ** Hah! I can beat that, the above, but at 16 rather than 22. * This sixteen year old troper's been going on forums since she was about ten, and just about everybody on them who has tried to guess her age has guessed between 25-30. She can be a brat if she's in a bad mood, but she makes an active attempt to understand things because she really, really loves her mum and doesn't want to put her through the stress of another bratty teen (seriously, my older sister stressed ''me'' out, and I wasn't even the one who had to deal with all her moods and abuse). Also, peer pressure isn't nearly as influential over this troper's emotions and actions as adults led her to believe it was going to be, which is one of the pluses to this whole maturity thing.

She still has a long way to go before she can call herself truly wise, she might not even get there before she dies (hopefully of old age and in her sleep), but this troper has come to the conclusion that maturity is more enjoyable than immaturity. Except where bubble wrap and drawing rude things on fogged up windows are concerned. * [[{{Tropers/Caiaphasthesympathist}} This troper]] has developed a weird hidden personality which randomly shows when normal-psyched people address him. Apparently, they expected him not to come up with subjective evasives when they asked what music he liked... It stems on his analysis of literary characters (coming in itself from a writer vocation) leading him to comprehend some of the more curious aspects of people. I do wonder why most parents expect their very young child to take responsibility when egocentrism is basic at their age. I recall writing an essay about why I refused to write a regular essay, which boiled down to an essay about a very bad essay... and it got accepted. This could go on for a while, but for one more instance, I have had personal experience leading me to conclude that complaining/boasting/refusing to learn/renouncing humanity among other things are always futile exercises in the end. Oh, did I mention I write novel outlines during my free time in school? * When this troper was eight, she came up with the job title she wanted as an adult: Interplanetary Anthropologist - a person who studied alien cultures. It didn't take long to figure out science wasn't even close to discovering alien life, though. Unfortunately. My parents always embarrass me with stories like that. One of them includes going to two birthday parties within about two weeks of each other. This was around the time The Little Mermaid came out (I must have been five), so, at the first party, this entertainer was dressed up as Ariel. At the next party, it was Alice in Wonderland. Within about two seconds, I recognised her, and said, "Hey! You're the woman who was at the last party! You were The Little Mermaid!" Nobody else had noticed it was the same person. Whoops. Beyond that, I've always had more in common with adults than people my own age. * This troper's choir director loved to tell people that she was "an eighty-year-old sage in a teenager's body." She frequently gets mistaken for being in her mid-to-late 20s (she's about to turn 20). She learned to read at the age of three. * Weirdly played with by this troper, who is 20, and is regularly told she has the brain of a fifty-year-old, but ''looks'' about fourteen. Age Dissonance? * [[@/HappyDuck This troper]] SO MUCH. I'm sick of all this "childhood" nonsense! Get on with college already! * When I was fifteen, my parents, my paternal grandmother and I were at a restaurant, and had to wait outside on these couches for a seat inside. Well, I was sitting on another couch since the one everyone else was on didn't have enough room, when a waitress came up and tried to offer me a choice of alcoholic beverage. Keyword: Tried. Also, I'm sixteen now and was sitting around a campfire one night with relatives and a boy whom I think one of my cousins had invited. He thought I was thirty-two. Granted, it was dark out, but still... I was very much offended. * In the forums this troper frequents, everybody thinks this troper is

older than he is. It stems mainly from this troper's good grammar, snark, and intelligence. Some guy asked how, theoretically speaking, you would destroy the world. The smartest answer was to use the LHC to create anti-matter, which was highly implausible. This troper suggested using rocket engines to push the Earth into tidal lock with the Sun, thus burning one side of the Earth, freezing the other side, and creating powerful winds that would kill off anybody in the [[TwilightZone Twilight]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Zone]]. Alternatively, this troper suggested using a bit more force to push the Earth towards the Sun, and let it spiral in. The heat would kill off the inhabitants, and by the time Earth reaches the Sun's Roche limit, the tidal forces would rip it apart and there will be no evidence Earth ever existed. ** This troper then concluded it with the lyrics to Pinky and the Brain. Instead of convincing people that this troper isn't capable of destroying the world, it convinced them that this troper is 10 years older than he really is. Darn. * I was described by a former girlfriend of mine as "18 going on 40." The description was intended to disparage - apparently she was (to borrow a crude internet neologism) butthurt that I didn't want to partake in the "total immersion college experience" that she so enjoyed (and trained as an orientation assistant to encourage incoming first-year students to embrace). Excuse me for having a fucking job and for lacking the time to get up-in-arms over the latest moral outrage ''du jour'', not to mention not having time to be at her every beck and call (she was, being a daddy's-girl only child from an uppermiddle-class family, unaware of the concept of personal boundaries as well as the lines between "affectionate," "loving," "clingy," and "what the fuck is the matter with you?"). The fact that it was an RCCaffiliated college (what the damn was I thinking?) made it that much worse to be what the others saw as a non-conformist, all because I broke both the resident and commuter student molds by having a dorm room but also spending a lot of time away from the college at my job. And strangely enough, I fit in and interacted just fine with my coworkers who were mostly middle-aged librarians. ** Though, come to think of it, a couple of those co-workers did occasionally use terms like "an old soul" and even "crotchety" to describe me from time to time. My mother's husband also once quipped that I was "too young to be that cynical." Funny thing is that I was trying to be optimistic and sunny for my mother's benefit. Guess that went over like the Hindenburg, huh? * This troper has a LikeBrotherAndSister friend, we're both interested in {{Anime}} and Japanese culture, and I often playfully address her with the Japanese word for ''older'' sister because of this trope. Yes, she's two years younger than me, but damn it, if I didn't have her to lean on I probably wouldn't be here today. * I have been described as a CuteShotaroBoy, and had a lot of problems in school because I would speak over the heads of everybody and had some problems interacting socially (some theorize I'm mildy aspergic). A recent psychometric test I did shows I am high-functioning. * Back in the fifth grade, This Troper never spoke much because most of her peers didn't understand half the words she used, interrupting

every third word to ask for a definition. She also remembers getting into an argument on a forum where one of the people who supported her was asked if he were 12 years old (in a condescending manner). This Troper felt a bit odd that at 11, she was apparently constructing a better argument than someone most likely much older. * After reading many of the examples on this page, this (fourteen year old) troper has begun to seriously wonder if his own reasoning ability is better than average for his age, or if the [[HanlonsRazor antiintellectualist philosophy abound in his community just runs deeper than he thought]]. * Being this kind of sucks - it reduces options for intimate friendships, since most of my (highschool; I'm a freshman) peers are... well, immature. I rarely get along with people my age. I've been told I "act twenty" - not an immature twenty year old, I hope! And on the internet, good grammar and a little common sense means you're automatically twenty-something. * [[Tropers/{{DeathToSquishies}} This troper]] has been using the internet since he was 12 years old, and back then, he actually managed to convince some 20-ish year olds that he was about their age with his grammar and spelling nazi-esque dialogue and somewhat expanded vocabulary. Even now, people get confused when they learn he's 17 years old, since he can talk more like he's in his mid-to-late-20's. Ironically, while he sounds and acts mature, he's a natural babyface, so people also mistake him for being ''younger'' than he really is based on his looks. * This troper has been mistaken for a sixth former. She's 14 as of writing this and thinks she would be mistaken for someone older if she didn't look so young. * This troper can personally attest that this is a VERY bad combination with a myriad of mental problems, but ESPECIALLY anger management issues. good god... Im not a good fighter because of martial arts training, Im a good fighter because I react very poorly to people not doing absolutely everything right. * This Troper has always been this way. People always overestimate her age and grade level. It does not help that she spoke in LittleProfessorDialog for her entire childhood and still exhibits SesquipedalianLoquaciousness almost constantly. Now she's in high school, and most people she meets seem to think that she is a graduate student at first, despite the fact that she is 5'4" and sports braces and hair dye. Oh, and those silly "Real Age tests" that crop up everywhere on the Internet? In some fits of boredom she's taken a few, and she always gets a result far, far higher than her actual age. ** She also has arguments with her dad about his on-again-off-again fiancee. They basically look like the typical "parent trying to guide their kid in relationships and make sure they don't get hurt" arguments... but with the ''teenager'' trying to help the ''adult.'' Unfortunately, he is entirely unreceptive. * Zig zagged by this troper. While I'm still pretty poor at looking after myself (case of point, I don't know how to use a washing machine. I'm hoping to go to college/university in about nine months, which means I'm seventeen), I've often asked questions that make no sense coming out of my mouth (complaining that the politics of the

country I'm from is one thing, claiming that I could run the country better than the prime minister without having taken a single lesson about the subject is another. Pointing out the problems with the current law making process could also qualify. I'm a brit, if you're wondering). Also, I tend to employ longer words over shorter words, much to one of my friend's annoyance. I think I can kinda justify it, though: when my parents started to divorce while I was twelve, I was basically useful for making tea, while my younger sister was able to make cakes with reasonable success (I did help, but not much). During that time, I forced myself to improve, with the result that, when I was legally able to make my own decisions about who I wanted to live with (sixteen), I was closer to an adult than my sister (she is a much better cook, but no where near as mature as me). I've slipped a bit in terms of maturity, but I'm still more mature than my sister, to the extent that my English teacher (well, former, as I had to swap classes due to a new lesson being needed to be added) didn't even realise we were related until I told him about a month after school started up again. * [[Tropers/WarriorOfLight This Troper]] lives off this trope. It doesn't help I'm [[YoungerThanTheyLook younger than I look]]. I'm seventeen, and act as a therapist for...[[ChronicHeroSyndrome everyone.]] I'm the one who you can find [[ThePhilosopher writing pieces about morality]] [[TheInsomniac deep into the night]] and the one you can [[BigBrotherMentor come to for advice]] [[AFriendInNeed no matter what.]] [[IntelligenceEqualsIsolation God damn it.]] ** Except for the insomnia and the fact that this started happening to me around the age of twelve, [[I {{FilledeMarius}}]] would appear to be the female version of you. ** My god, you're [[{{Tropers/Arutoa}} me]] three years older! * This troper has almost always been ahead of most other people in terms of intelligence. Back when I would chat frequently on Kongregate, I would express views and opinions mirroring people in their twenties when I was about 15 or 16. I've even been called worldweary thanks to my cynical realism. ** Above troper. Recently finished reading Heart of Darkness for my English class and I was bored to death of the entire thing. Why? The book basically tells you most people are evil on the inside. Something I'd known sice I was about 12. * This troper has been described as "acting 50 years old" when he was in the 5th grade, and is currently described by his friends as "a grumpy old man in a younger man's body." It's a bit telling that, at about 12, I yelled at my neighbors to get off my lawn. * [[{{Tropers/Arutoa}} This troper]] is nearly identical to Tropers/WarriorOfLight's example above, except he hit that at 12. * This troper was said to be so, when younger. Now she is normal teen interested in normal teen problems. Also her grandmother, having two stupid younger brothers and busy father, she worked around farm in age of 12. But this times was like this. * I learned to read(halfway by myself, with some help from my dad) when I was 3, unlike my friends who didn't care for learning this until they had it in school. I also learned English fairly quickly(in a non-English speaking country), and could form mostly grammatically

correct and correct spelled English sentences at the age of 10. Finally, I hated the kind of "blood-poop-sex-swearing" jokes some of my friends laughed at all the time, thinking it was nothing but immature and vulgar for no reason at all. * This troper doesn't really know if he's an example. He doesn't have much in terms of social skills, practically doesn't leave his house and no one is interested in him. He behaves as if he's younger than the rest of his friends. After all, they've had parties including copious amounts of alcohol since years ago, at least three - three years below the age at which that's legal. This troper is even a year younger than them. Yet we're in the same year at school, this troper got the highest score in a mock The Very Definitely Final Maths Exam, generally is one of the best in most subjects, actually somewhat enjoys reading and school, bothers to write properly... The best words for this are "Intelligent, not mature", or just BrilliantButLazy. * This tropette doesn't remember what her IQ is. Heck, sometimes she forgets when her birthday is... because she's too damn busy looking into the subtext of everything! She's depressed because she's a cynic ("why bother going to school when the job market is crashing? My college degree won't mean anything, I'll work a job that I most likely will hate, and I'm going to die without accomplishing anything useful for the public's benefit"). She also can't stand her younger brother, who isn't as intuitive as she is, and she may be a possible Aspie. She's also the most emotionally mature of her group, only choosing to display childish behaviors so her friends don't feel uncomfortable. * This 17 year old troper counts. He has understands philosophy, gives life advice to plenty of people, and is able to explain many abstract concepts that my smarter friends don't understand, combined with the fact that [[YoungerthentheyLook I'm regularly mistaken for a college student who is 20.]] Only my drivers permit proves my age. * This 14-year-old from Ohio has often felt that he's the Deconstruction of WiseBeyondTheirYears. Although he does have friends, he often feels that people disrespect him and treat him unfairly due to his intelgence (he just scored higher than 99% of the nation's somphmores - and is just a freshman) and his maturaity. Also, he feels that his mature state of mind does not help him understand people's humor, making him look distant and unemotional. * I was a late bloomer, I didn't start reading properly until seven. and I was also incredibly stupid (gullible) before an extremely harsh epipheny that got relatives at a chirstmas party saying I had gone from 12 to 30 (currently 16) when I started having strong, logical arguments conserning politics, abortion, war, general philosophy with relatives. I agree with someone a little above my post, being like this in [[BlessedWithSuck highschool is annoying]], surrounded by immature people and wishing they themselves would grow up. My solution is dumbing myself down[[ObfuscatingInsanity to the point my friends think I'm insane]]. * I have always been more mature than the rest of my classmates (even older ones), friends or cousins; being able to fully understand the implications of death at age six, when my great grandmother died. I was also told to be wise by one of my best friends; some people ask me for advice even when I have no real experience in some areas. And

teachers enjoy talking with me about the class, like Chemistry, Physics, Biology, etc. * This troper (17) often refers to herself as an old woman and often feels nostalgia for her grade school days. She's always gotten along with her teachers because she apreciates History and English and such. She's never gone through a teenage phase or wished she was in a different situation than the one she's in now. Her mother calls her an "old soul," because she's able to see from very different perspectives and has never been afraid to speak her somewhat unorthodox views. Part of all this is due to bookishness, since her parents started reading to her at an early age, but she likes to think there's more to it than that. * [[@/WeepingWillow I]] am probably an example of this. I already pondered complicated philosophical and metaphysical questions when I was still a little girl, and generally tend to be more mature than my peers. However, the downsides to this trait are that [[IntelligenceEqualsIsolation it makes social interaction with my peers rather difficult]] and that people frequently accuse me of being a pretentious know-it-all. * I'm another example. My mom told me I started talking at 2 months, was speaking in full sentences at 5 months, taught myself how to read at age 2, and learned to write at age 3 from watching my older sister (who was 8 at the time). When I was 6, my first-grade teacher had my parents get some sort of testing done, and whoever it was that tested me (I still can't remember) said that I shouldn't have been in elementary school, I should have been working on a master's degree (though I think that was probably exaggeration to emphasise the point). My parents didn't have the money for homeschooling or private school, and they wanted me to be in public school so I could have something "normal" kids did, since outside of school I was never going to have a normal life. Around the same time I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, depression (yeah, they diagnose that in 6 year olds, apparently), an anxiety disorder and PTSD. I stayed in public school for a while, but was so ahead that the teachers just had me go to the library and study on my own. I was able to multiply and divide four-digit numbers in my head at age 7, and I learned Spanish and French just by listening to my mom speak by the time I was 10. At nine, my parents pulled me out of school for a few years, said they were "unschooling" me, and I pretty much just worked around the house and the farm, and studied in the loft above the barn with the cats. And to top it all off, I started college at 16, a whole year younger than when my dad started (I'm 17 now). Now, I'm starting to level out with other kids my age in terms of learning new things. * This 14 year-old troper has been called this by a few adults, even though in all fairness the 'knowledge' she had was fairly common for someone who spends more than half of their lives on the Internet to know. * This teenage troper gives her friends solutions for their problems even sometimes giving "psychological" answers or basically their own therapist, sometimes complains about life has the patience to actually sit through shows, music and films most teens won't give a heck about, and hates it wh3n p30pl3 type liek dis.

---Go back to WiseBeyondTheirYears. How old are you, fifty? ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WishFulfillment * This troper admits fantasising making fan fics to fulfill some desires in RealLife. * I reckon a lot of anime and manga is this. The Japanese are basically depicting themselves as a {{Bishonen}} and {{Bishojo}} race with all kinds of crazy and diverse [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair hair and eye colours]], and their country as being filled with HumongousMecha and all sorts of [[RuleOfCool cool stuff]]. * This troper suspects JustinBieber is actually a fanfiction character brought to life. Why else would (most) all the girls like her, why else would everyone else hate him, and why else would he announce he's gay? For question number two, us haters are from REAL RealLife, and for question three, blame SlashFics. * I admit it...I write about a redhaired emo teen girl with [[PurpleEyes purple eyes]] that is often described as "plain looking" and yet...at worst, she's HollywoodHomely; Also, she has two of the coolest friends anyone could ever find (a hot bad boy with [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold good heart]] and a CrazyAwesome gothic girl), she is an amateur writer whose poems are "good enough to be published" and while the series is pretty mundane (a teen comedy) is basically the adolescence I would have LOVED to live... * I believe Wish Fulfillment is the engine of pratically every work of fiction, i. e. the base of all fiction. ** Sad but true... It gets a bit [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel creepy]] when you stop and [[FridgeHorror think]] about the kind of [[BrownNote stuff]] some people write about. * This Troper is currently playing a Supeheric character in a TapletopRPG with the power to make tropes real in the world. (Basically watered-down Talecrafting from ChangelingTheLost). It's all i could ever dream of. * This tropette is guilty of doing this for a creative writing project at school. It was a short story about a woman who falls for a handsome nerd from Australia. I wrote it when I realized that I am probably going to be stuck dating overweight, unsightly geeks from Nor Cal (I'm from Los Angeles) for the rest of my life. If I can't have a happy ending in my romantic life, why can't I give my characters one? * This troper, too, admits the fact that she's written a few selfinsert fics in the past.... * Tropers/{{Mort08}} has a RealLife story of WishFulfillment; one of her favorite movies is {{Chicken Run}}, and for the longest time she had it on VHS. Despite that, she spent several years secretly wishing for a DVD of it. Then her mom got rid of the VHS, and she began to wish even harder...still secretly. And it just so happened that on my birthday, Mom and Little Brother went to the store and came back with, among other things, two [=DVDs=]: a SpongeBob compilation and...well,

you can guess. Like I said, I had NEVER told ANYONE that I wanted the movie, I just kept hoping for it. Birthday wishes DO come true!!!

WishfulProjection * TruthInTelevision: This editor happens to be a Norwegian that studied Russian in uni. Going to St. Peterburg to learn more, I at one point was expected to conduct English Conversation practice with some teenage boy I had ordered (in Russian, of course) a pancake from. In effect, someone whose job was preparing and selling Russian-style pancakes interpreted "one pancake with mushrooms" pronounced with a foreign accent as "I am able and willing to conduct English conversation practice with you here and now". * Not sure if this is the right trope, but people are always asking ThisTroper if he plays WoW. No... I play a few FPSs for Windows, but I'm not an RPG person. ---Hey! Why don't you go read WishfulProjection like all you tropers do?! ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WithLyrics * This troper often ends up randomly singing the theme to TheLegendOfZelda to himself. The lyrics? --> [[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Beyond, the rim of star light!]] --> [[ForgottenThemeTuneLyrics My love! Is wandering in star flight.]] ** You must post this on YouTube. * This is how [[@/{{This-guy}} I]] remember the names of instrumental songs. ** I do this too, and it annoys the crap out of one of my friends who loves guitar music. Also whenever those commercials for mix [=CDs=] come on where they play like 10 seconds from each song, I would sub in the artist's name for some lyrics ("Lovin' You. . . is easy 'cause you're Minnie Riperton". . . "I heard Paper Lace The Night Chicago Died", etc.) * An old friend of [[SonicLover This Troper]] made up lyrics for the final boss battle of MegaManBattleNetwork 4. The lyrics? The phrase "Look at the cheese!" repeated over and over. To say he's a CloudCuckooLander is an understatement; he's practically the ''mayor'' of [=CloudCuckooLand=]. * Apparently when tired/drunk/on cold medication this troper has a tendency to sing along to lyricless music. In tongues. He's only caught himself doing it while tired, and alone, but others have mentioned the latter two cases. * [[@/{{Nomic}} I]] did this, both to lyricless songs and to songs that have lyrics but which he can't remember. Usually the made-up lyrics are eighter gibberish (faux latin, often containing words from {{Warcraft}}'s eredic/demonic, it has a nice ring to it) or examples of LyricalDissonance (I'm a big fan of lyrical dissonance). * [[@/UnclGhost I]] subconsciously did to parts of lyricless songs

that sound kind of like songs with lyrics, often resulting in bizarre combinations. * This troper grew up doing this and still does, especially about her cat. (Granted, usually it's new words to tunes that already have words, but sometimes it's something instrumental.) She also has a theory that any piece of instrumental music becomes instantly hilarious if you sing "nom nom nom." Try "Eine Kleine Nom-musik": Nom, nom nom, nom ''nom'' nom ''nom'' nom ''nom!'' Or "Also Nommed Zarathustra": Nom... ''nom''... NOM... ''NOM'' '''NOMMM!!''' ** My sister, her boyfriend and I performed a three-part "harmony" (note the quotation marks) version of [[IncrediblyLamePun Ludwig nom Beethoven]]'s "Nom to Joy." * When this Troper and his brother played [[FinalFantasyV Final Fantasy V]] we made up lyrics for the airship theme. I can't remember the lyrics now, but I do remember that the chorus was the repetition of the words "cherry lemonade" over and over again. * When [[@/{{lalalei2001}} this troper]] played VideoGame/SuperMario64, she made up lyrics to the Bowser in the Dark World song. All she can remember is "Bowseeer is so stu~pid!" * [[@/PentiumMMX2 I]] did this to songs from DiddyKongRacing when I was younger. I still remember parts of my lyrics for the themes of Diddy (My favorite playable character before I discovered how awesome Pipsy is) and Wizpig. Maybe I should attempt to rewrite them, just for the hell of it... * [[{{Tropers/Pittsburghmuggle}} This Troper]] has two he has used: ** ''This is a show / called TheATeam / it's a really good show / you're watching it now!'' ** And not so much a lyric, but in the opening to ''{{Cops}}'' says "COPS is filmed on location with the men and women of law enforcement.", for fun I would often add "''COPS'' is filmed before a live StudioAudience." * StongRadd plans on making one for Quint's theme from the GB version of MegaMan 2. ---Start adding lyrics to the WithLyrics page. ----

WomenDrivers * In somewhat of an inversion, this tropeling's (e. g., child who is a troper) mother is an excellent driver with a better sense of direction than my own and possibly my father's. * [[TheEvilOboist This troper]] plays this trope rather straight, though it might just be because I haven't been driving long. I failed my drive test twice and finally got my license at 17. While I was still learning, I backed into a parked car. Shortly after getting my license, I backed into another parked car. I've also almost rolled the family Suburban. My dad tried to teach me how to drive a stick, but I couldn't seem to grasp the concept. However, I have never gotten a ticket or even been pulled over, so I guess I'm getting better at it. * There are 6 kids on my street, 3 guys and 3 girls. All 3 girls had to retake their driving test at least once (one of them had to retake

all of driver's ed), all 3 guys passed on their 1st try. Even then, my brother got his license suspended for going 70 in a 60 zone with 3 teenagers in his car (he's under 16 and shouldn't be driving with more than one minor who is unrelated to him, so 2 of the 3 weren't supposed to be in the car), so it's not completely played straight. * This troper drives a little fast, but otherwise makes a good faith effort to be a safe, sane driver. She does not ever text or use her cell phone or put on makeup behind the wheel. Heck, she even keeps both hands on the wheel and always stops for pedestrians. (Which is very rare where this troper comes from!) * [[{{Tropers/Katsuhagi}} I'm]] an aversion since I'm no crazier than anyone from Massachusetts (which, given our well-deserved reputation as Massholes, probably still puts me towards the "bad" end of the spectrum) but am probably one of the more cautious drivers out there due to two (not my fault) car accidents. * [[{{Tropers/MaxTheReaper}} I]] had a friend whose sister was probably the worst driver alive (or so I thought, before I started driving and took a road trip to Georgia). She rarely strayed below 50, even in residential areas. She would change lanes pretty much every time someone was in front of her, usually while talking on the phone and putting on makeup (yes, at the same time). It was basically the most terrifying experience one could have without bullets or Uwe Boll movies being involved. * My mom was supposed to drive me and my friend somewhere, but a huge storm just hit; it was dark and the roads were a bit dangerous. She made my dad drive us. I told my friend, "At the risk of sounding sexist, yes, my dad is a better driver than my mom." * Lampshaded by this troper's girlfriend, who berates him for his lack of driving ability, and insists he should be a better driver than her because she's a woman. * My mom plays it straight...she's..bad...she's pretty bad. * My mom and dad manage to invert it. My dad will swerve randomly, try to pass people for no dicernable reason and the other drivers want to pass him, and keep his brights on, expressing worry about hitting deer... Though everyone flashes their brights and he's making it more likely that ''they'' will hit a deer. My mom, on the other hand, really doesn't scare me when she drives. * Usually averted with This Troper (A Male, who can't drive just yet), whenever he's in a car with a woman behind the wheel (They're actually pretty competent, which is what I can't say for the majority of the other people who have a license). Though to say nothing about my mother when she was a teen... Thank GOD I wasn't born then. * The actual reality isn't "women drivers", but "adolescent drivers". The worst drivers i see are people aged 16-25 who think that speeding is cool and slowing down around corners is stupid. Dangerous people like that who should be nowhere near a car. Most women i see are either average normal drivers or just less likely to take risks (which means less chance of causing accidents anyway). * This trope actually resulted in this troper's great-grandparents' MeetCute. The great-grandmother (whose driving skills are rather infamous in the family) was driving her best friend somewhere, and unbeknownst to them both the friend's brother was in the car behind

them. When he next saw his sister, he asked her who was driving, and then told her that she was to '''never''' ride in a car that she (the great-grandmother) was driving ever again. Of course the two of them ended up HappilyMarried. Considering that the only other infamous driver in the family is male, however, this isn't much of a DoubleStandard. * This troper had a nasty reminder that this trope is nowhere near [[DeadHorseTrope dead enough]] pretty recently...One weekend my friend and I went to a party at a sorority house and were trying to figure out what to do next (I was drinking, she was the designated driver), when we ran into some (VERY drunk) friends who needed a ride back to the dorms. We managed to fit seven people (including myself) in her car, dropped them off, and drove back to pick up ANOTHER friend in the span of about 20 minutes. After we had parked and found our friend, the DD tried to back out in a 3 point turn, but there was a group of guys standing behind the car in such a way that we couldn't do it and pull directly out of the lot. Since the guys wouldn't move, my friend had to make a more complicated turn in the opposite direction, all the while they were staring at us and laughing to themselves, until I distinctly heard one of them say loudly "Man, those women drivers, amirite?". The two of us who were drinking in the car promptly rolled down our windows and cursed them the frack out, only to get a reply that had something to do with the kitchen. I don't know what's sadder, that they legitimately thought that was a good comeback or that I wasn't at all surprised by any of this... * This troper's mother gives all of the high blood pressure of this trope with none of the risk: She's a decent driver, but not very confident, and her nervousness is contagious. * Played with or something with this troper. On the one hand, I'm a woman, and have been horrible at driving when attempted- I've never successfully parallel parked, parked on top of curbs, and in the most egregious instance, hit a fence while putting around in a cemetery for practice. On the other hand, most of this is because I haven't had much practice in driving, and started Driver's Ed being probably the only student who hadn't driven before, causing a cycle of low ability and little practice. Also, I admit that I'm a bad driver, haven't even tried for my driver's license, and plan on relying upon mass transit rather than forcing the world to deal with my lack of driving skills. ---AAAA! Watch the road! Go back! Go back to WomenDrivers!

WondrousLadiesRoom * A few weeks ago, This female Troper had to use the restroom in a mall she was familiar with. However, she was unfamiliar with the restrooms near the food court (which is where I was). Apparently, I found a vending machine that selled - besides tampons and sanitary napkins - '''gum and lip gloss'''. After a moment of going "WTF?" at this vending machine, I left. * At this troper's old elementary school, for 2 years, we had fooled the boys into thinking we had a small couch in the restroom. This was

ruined when a boy eventually ventured in. * Averted at [[@/DaNuke Da_Nuke]]'s college. When the major coordinators decided to equip the electronics building with living facilities (because we just spend ''that much'' time in the lab), they decided to decommission the male bathroom and use it to put a kitchenette there. Out of necessity, being now the only bathroom in the floor, the ladies room was converted into an unisex room. The only difference between the ladies room and the men's room turned out to be absence of urinals and a little bit more cleanliness. * Inverted at [[@/{{Nomic}} Nomic]]'s high school. One girl wanted to see what the guy's bathroom was like, and eventually ran in there, took a look and ran out. She was dissapointed as apparently the only difference was that there were urinals and the bathroom stalls were on the left side of the room instead of on the right (since it was located on the other side of the corridor than the ladies room). ** This troper and many other girls did the same thing only in primary school. * Averted at this Troper's high school - all the bathrooms (boys and girls) smelled equally horrible and were equally as crappy, but the boys' rooms were more likely to be closed down because more immature guys just couldn't be responsible while taking a leak. The Bathrooms on the far side of the school were never locked, and the ones on the near side (actually the back of the school) ''always were''. This made it extremely frustrating for us theater kids and band geeks who really needed to pee and had to wander WAY to the other end of the school, since the janitors were too damn lazy to just leave the least-used bathrooms unlocked in the morning and evening for the kids who 'really'' needed them the most. * This troper's former gym teacher (who is male) would often joke that the girls' locker room had a jacuzzi and stuff. Although with the size of the school's locker rooms, to fit a jacuzzi in there alongside the showers and lockers would've required use of {{Hammerspace}} a la TARDIS. * [[@/BTIsaac This troper's]] high school practically had unisex restrooms, since no one would waste over ten minutes to go to the other end of the building (The building had a very stupid layout). Even before that, he had a habit of using the girls' restrooms for similar reasons, so he never had any fantasies about them either. The fact that girls go to bathrooms in pairs so one would hold the door, while the other finishes, was also pretty evident to him. Especially after that one incident when he opened the door in the wrong moment. It wasn't a dream come true. * I walked into one once by mistake. Didn't even notice until I walked out and saw the sign on the door. The one person who was there (apparently female in retrospect but looking kind of androgynous to me) looked at me but didn't say anything. * This troper also walked into one by mistake while in high school, used one of the stalls, and was spotted on the way out, though fortunately, said person was understanding. This troper left it quickly thereafter, and to this day has a tendency to enter a restroom, walk out and double check, then go back in. Proof that someone with ADHD can be sufficiently oblivious as to not wonder why a

bathroom is pink and has funny looking urinals. * At my job, the tiny men's room is plain. The equally tiny women's room has flowers and artwork which I noticed while trying to find toilet paper for the men's room. * At this troper's school, the facilities are apparently identical, but the girls get "privileges"-- for example, the senior classes bring in flowers, hand lotion, and decorations for Christmas. Sigh. * This Troper's high school used to have used to have unisex restrooms until some girls complained about the unsanitary restroom practices of some of the male students, whereupon the school leadership decided to segregate. For some reason, however, they decided to designate well over half the restrooms as ladies' despite the student body being about 75% male, which caused the male students to pretty much universally reject the reform and continue using (and in certain cases despoiling) whichever restroom happened to be closest at hand. * [[@/{{Unistrut}} This Troper]] works for a university theater department. One of my jobs is training the student worker who cleans the theater. So far, every guy (including myself) upon entering the women's bathroom has said "Hey! They have a ''couch'' in here!" * Averted on the campus of this troper's alma mater, at least in buildings constructed before about 1970 and most notably the original sciences building, where all the women's washrooms have only one stall. The architects apparently didn't anticipate that female undergraduates would come to outnumber male ones by an almost two-toone ratio. * Subverted in the life of this troper. His High school didn't have separate restrooms for men and ladies. * The gym where this (male) troper used to go would occasionally swap the men's and women's changing rooms when they were doing repairs (except once when we once got chucked out to a horrible port-a-shed in the carpark, grrr), and there didn't seem to be that much difference, except that the women's showers all had separate cubicles rather than being open-plan. * A restaurant where this troper used to work had a very upscale ladies room when compared to the men's room. Subverted in that we had a mannequin of Abraham Lincoln hanging on the back of the door, which totally ruined the atmosphere for most of the ladies who entered the room. ** [[IncrediblyLamePun Honestly?!]] * This troper worked in a retail job some time ago and can verify that the women's restroom is often a lot more disgusting than the men's, to the point where ''nobody'' wants to clean it. How someone can get poo all over the toilet (the seat, the bowl, the tank, the crack between the tank and the seat, the floor...) and be able to walk out of the store without telling anyone, I'll never know. ** Don't you think it would be even ''weirder'' to find her telling people about it? "Hey, just wanted to let you know - I shit all over one of those toilets in the restroom and it kinda got smeared all over the place. 'Kay, bye." * Semi-subverted by every restroom this Troper has been in: the only difference between the men's and ladies' rooms is that the ladies are more prone to flushing, and thusly their restroom tends not to smell

like pee. * Also subverted by [[Tropers/JosephStaleknight this troper]]: I accidentally ran into a ladies' room in my university once, and it was just a mirror image of the men's room. Also an embarrassing moment for me. * Averted at this troper's church. We all ''thought'' we had one, since the ladies' room was clean, had lotion bottles and a couch and carpeting on the hallway in, but it turns out the boy's restroom has the same thing. * My elementary school's bathrooms weren't so bad (the girls just had one-person sinks instead of those round ones that five people use at once), but their pool changeroom was about three times the size, heated far better, and actually had dryers. * One time in the third grade, our teacher took all the boys in the class into the girls bathroom to make a point about how much cleaner they kept their bathroom. While the bathroom was cleaner, what with the lack of toilet paper all over the ground, [[@/{{Mullon}} this troper]] thought the teacher's point was ruined a bit by how the girl's bathroom actually had decent lighting and was not painted a sickly green color. * This (female) Troper's synagogue has an ''actual couch'' in the ladies room. Seriously, it's awesome. * This (male) Troper snuck into the girl's restroom at his middle school one day after everyone else had left. He discovered that the girl's room had soap and paper towels, unlike the boys'. Our restroom never had soap or paper towels. In addition, one of the stall doors was installed the wrong way. * Averted at this troper's college (I'm a guy), where guys and gals restrooms are exactly the same, owing partially to the fact that there are no urinals. Actually I'm not entirely certain why the hell we have separate restrooms, since each stall is private. Occasionally I've seen women in the men's restroom, presumably because they would have to travel too far to get to their own. The one time I was in the women's restroom I did notice one odd thing, there were these little paper bags the use of which I can only guess at. ** This (female) troper would like to warn the above troper [[YouDontWantToKnow not to get too curious with the bags]]. [[spoiler:They're for things that can't be flushed down toilets and that you wouldn't want to carry to a trashcan outside of the stall. Usually pad/tampon wrappers and used pads.]] * Averted in this troper's college. She has never been in the male toilets, but the womens are bad enough....theres a sign on the cubicle door saying "please put your used sanitary towels in the bins provided, not on the floor" and there has been several pregnancy tests found there. At school it was even worse-there was never any soap or paper towels, there was always wee on the floor and someone wiped their bum with the roll of toilet paper, not a sheet of it. * This female troper once went to a pub/restaurant which wasn't too spectacular in appearance. Then she went upstairs to the ladies' toilets - and was amazed by how awesome it looked. It had tall windows, comfy chairs, pretty sinks, and she thinks it could even have had faux-chandeliers in there. She never got a description of the

guys' toilets from her father, though. * This troper went to an all male high school, so the Girl's Room being nicer was justified: They were only used during events or by the female teachers. Although one such room had a very nice couch clearly visible from the door, though this was the bathroom in a room that played host to many a dance. * Inverted at one restaurant this troper ate at. All the guys at the table were bragging about how the restaurant put different pages from the local newspaper in frames hung over the urinals, a luxury which the girls of the group did not have in their restroom. * This troper, once at a funeral caught a glimpse into the ladies restroom. The male restroom looked normal and gray. the ladies ''had chairs, was carpeted, walls painted pink and was larger.'' * This troper's university is generally pretty equitable about the poor state of lavatories (apart from generally having better graffiti in the male ones (so in one department the ladies are known to go in after hours to join the comment thread)), but the "Women's Room" (which is occasionally used by men after hours, because they are the only lavatories easily accessible from a common room and the chapliains' offices) is large, well furinished, and features a clean couch and is well maintained and quite attractive. There is no "Men's Room", and the closest equivalent is one set of unisex lockers in a corridor, a set of changing rooms with shower stalls and a urinal which can be seen from the corridor, and a large but poorly kept lavatory (with another urinal visible from the corridor) * Can anyone tell this troper if its true that women's toilets always have mirrors? ** Usually, but not always. Many schools don't have them, because girls ditch class to fix their hair and smoke. The result is that they ditch class anyway, but don't smoke in the bathrooms. ** The girls' bathrooms at my school actually have mirrors. *** Why would you need a mirror to smoke? **** Well, they'd go in to fix their hair and light up while they were fussing with their hair. Now, as there are no mirrors, there's no reason for them to go into the bathrooms, so they smoke in the delivery bay behind the cafeteria. TheMoreYouKnow. * The maintenance guy in this troper's apartment building inverts this trope -- whenever he has to do repair work in the bathrooms in apartments where females live, he always expects the worst. He hasn't gone into detail, but apparently he's had some interesting experiences... * At my highschool, the mens rooms lacked a few things the ladies had... like stall doors and soap. However, this was due to the janitorial staff getting angry and the male student body and having way to much power. * Ladies rooms ARE wondrous - to the male who prefers privacy in the restroom! Men's rooms often have one stall and two urinals, but the urinals are out in the open or offer pitiful privacy panels. That's as if a ladies room had three toilets: one in a stall and two in the open. But every guy is assumed to be able to whip it out and tinkle in front of all the other guys. So yes - to have all stalls would certainly be nice!

* Inverted at this troper's high school where he once walked into the ladies room not looking at the sign on the door only to figure it out when he saw menstrual blood all over the floor and no stall doors.It made the guys room look far better,and even the guys room make's this toper hold his breath before letting [[UnusualEuphemism acid out the Nixon]] * This Troper worked at a mall (in a [=McDonalds=] branch) where workers working late enough would routinely go to the lady's room if it was late enough (so that the mall was closed and nobody would probably be in the bathroo, at the same moment you finished you shift). It wasn't that wonderous, but it had those new techi hand driers instead of those old useless ones the guy's had. I guess the mall's managemet figured people in the guy's room would wash there hands less often and wouldn't need to dry them as much. ** This troper's local mall has bathrooms (men and women) off of the food court that are located in large antechamber-like resting areas. The ladies' rooms are on one side of the food court and the gentlemens' rooms are on the other. The girls' bathrooms are also larger than the guys', with WAY more stalls. The girls' side also has more family restrooms; the guys' side has maybe one. * Inverted: [[Tropers.CalamityJane This Troper]]'s middle school experience was peppered with people running into the boys bathroom and completely defiling it for no reason that she can discern. This often led to the boys using the girl's bathroom on occasion and finding the obligatory scribblings on the back of the stalls on 'who was the cutest boy in school'. For the longest time, the boys pretty much were acting like [[OneOfTheBoys One of the Girls]] the whole time, making SpearCounterpart after Spear Counterpart to all of the mindless girly ramblings on the walls (that some kids cleaned up at the end of the day as their chore). Hardly anyone remembers what was so bad about the Boy's bathroom that lead it to being locked so much, and there was even an entire debate about it in the Handicap Stall. * This (female) troper ended up using a more up-scale bathroom at some wedding pavilion place. It. Was. Awesome. It had a couch, arm chairs, a separate powder room, scented handsoap, and everything. Drapery, as well, in lots of pink and fluffy fabrics. Very...frilly and girly? I only wish more bathrooms could be like that one, compared to how gross some school bathrooms can get. * In this troper's hometown, there is a hotel resturant that has a customers-only men's room. Not so with the ladies room. However, it balances out, since the local pub has tv's in the men's room, so guys don't miss a second of whatever sport is being watched. * At [[@/SoWeAteThem my]] old junior high, the boy's locker room had a cold concrete floor, dark blue lockers (some of which didn't work, and poorly maintaned lighting. When I and the boys got scoleosis screenings in the girl's locker room, the first thing we noticed was the bright pink lockers and the carpeted flooring. * This trope has been played so god damned straight in my life time. A milder example was when I was helping clean a church for sake of some charity hours for god knows what. Either of the two mens rooms I went into were fairly standard: single stall, urinal, single sink with mirror. But the first women's room has a couch, two chairs, three

stalls, magazines, wallpaper, and I swear to god I think I heard muzac playing. The other one only one-upped the men's with another stall and sink, but for whatever reason, included a ''shower stall''. The fuck they doing in there, indeed. The more painful one comes from the church that I went to Montessori School. Before meals we'd all line up and be forced to either use the facilities or wash our hands. Boy's room was right out in the open, it was this squalid little cube with one stall, one urinal, and one sink. It could, quite literally, fit no more than five of us little kids in at a time. Meanwhile the girl's room was nicely tucked away behind a wall where you couldn't see in. It has two sinks three stalls, and was generally kept cleaner. So of course a ''great'' idea in order to keep everyone moving is to make it a battle of the sexes! Only, well, the class was about 75% boys working with half the space. When we ''won'', we fucking ''celebrated''. Now to make sure this TraumaCongaLine is complete, scold the boys for leaving a mess and let the girls go early! Of final note, when the grocery store I worked at was updating the bathrooms, first they did the women's. During this time, women got the men's room, and men had to take it out to the porta-potty. So hey, fair's fair, yeah? Their's is done, so let them shit outside fro awhile. Or, y'know, just let the women go back to the women's room and let us men keep playing bear. I'm chivalrous enough, but at this point in time, I have none left regarding bathrooms. * Averted in pretty much every women's room this troper has cleaned. They are generally unspectacular and much, much dirtier than the men's room. * Averted in almost every public loo this troper's been to. Round about 85% of them are dirty and messy, but that's normal for public facilities. * Played straight and subverted with this (female) Troper's Mother's work restroom. It had a freaking couch, 3 sinks, a large mirror, and that ground up flower stuff. THAT was the waiting room. The actual toilets are shoved into a small room in the back that has 3 cramped stalls, cold as crap, and as for the smell? Let's just leave it at they keep a can of Lysol in each stall. * In this troper's high school, this was largely averted (so far as he saw). However, the girl's room in this troper's dorm has a window and seems generally cleaner. On the other hand, their light flickers like a strobe at a rave for a while after being turned on, so...zig-zagged? * Along with being clean, the newly renovated bathrooms in this Troper's university department have fake flowers in vases sitting on the stone sink counters. The men in the department think we're lying about it. * Well, dressing rooms...while searching for a misplaced prop walker, This male troper ventured into the female dressing room with a friend, and saw they, infact, had atleast 4 plush armchairs up there. The men's dressing room has three rickety folding chairs and a wheelchair. * Not the trope in it self. But this Troper's friend had a deam that by pushing in a brick, the whole ladies toilets is transformed into a giant spa it cna transform back so the for any guys that poke in don't see the awesome-ness. Fridge Logic happened when this Troper told her that it would of taken over the mens toilets as well because of the

size, as the toilets are back to back. (Or it could be some magic pocket demension, who knows! It was a dream) * Despite being more of a StraightGay, this troper has little compunctions using the ladies room in places where it is ok. As a whole, they tend to be cleaner and less crowded. That said, I had one huge subversion: I entered the ladies room and entered a stall, only to [[NauseaFuel notice a large red blotch]] on the rim. I left the stall for another one but every single one of them had similar blotches, [[{{Squick}} leaving me to wonder just what the hell happened there]]. * This troper found one of these at a community center, during the [[ItMakesSenseInContext Abstinence Festival]] I was attending. There were four or five lit mirrors and a couch in the waiting room, plus flowers by the sinks in the actual bathroom. And it all smelled like lavender! * Once at a Big-box store while I was headed to use the gents, I managed to get a peek into the entrance to the lady's side. Placed against the wall of the curve to keep the rest of the room from being visible was a nice wooden table decorated with some fake flora. No such amenities on the men's side. Makes me wonder what else they were hiding in there... * One benefit to having urinals: ''Wall-mounted [=TVs=]'' for every one in some places! Any lady tropers out there found stall-mounted [=TVs=] in a public restroom? * My church has this! Small area with one couch and two chairs. Possibly subverted in that it might be from the ladies being connected to the babies playroom. It's the only room I've ever been in that did not have any outside walls. I've often wondered what living in the church would be like, as a house mind you. I concluded that the mens would be left alone as a guest bathroom, while the womens would be renovated into an ensuite/jacuzzi room. I would sleep in the nice warm playroom. Which has a SINK! Presumably for cleaning sticky little hands. * At [[{{Tropers/Ventisia}} this Troper's]] place where she has Scouts (I'm a Venture Scout), the girl's bathroom is much nicer than the guy's bathroom. We took a look to see once. The girl's bathroom has a couch, a big sink, cabinets, a small side-table... It's no wonder most of the girls in our Crew chill there for a bit after the meeting. * This Troper frequents a bar with subverts this, there are couches but they're in a room you have to pass through to get to either restroom. Also the mens room is kept very clean, has nice large privacy panels between the urinals, and the walls are decorated with large pictures of pin-up models. Put [=TVs=] in there and it'd be a Wondrous Mens Room instead! * This Troper worked in fast food during his high school and some of his college days. He cleaned the ladies' restroom a few times. He was shocked to find that their restroom was several times filthier than the mens'. Not to mention that [[spoiler: some women did not seem to know how to properly dispose of their tampons.]] ---Go catch a glimpse of the WondrousLadiesRoom... if you can! * [catches glimpse] ...Oh my god, there's a giant flat-screen

television in there! With cable! ** Welp, looks like I'm gettin' that sex change. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WordAssociationTest * This troper and one of her friends often have conversations/games entirely based off one of these. One of us says a word, the next responds immediately, and the first person to say 'ThatsWhatSheSaid' being the 'winner' (which is then traditionally followed by 'shut up' from the other person).

WordSaladLyrics * One this troper wrote: --->Concrete lions illusion --->Wizard politicians --->Distort combat --->Ulterior action --->Silver millenium king back out ** It's about war. Honestly! * This troper wrote up lyrics for a song called "Applesauce Baptism", where the gimmick was to write two 26-word verses, each one featuring words that start with every letter of the alphabet in order. Since I knew such a thing wasn't going to end up making much sense anyway, I decided to have fun with it. I could post the whole thing, but it's probably enough to just cite my favorite part of the second verse: -->Another boy creates drooling eskimos -->Fond grassy hills in June -->Kangaroo lust merits no one's prose -->Quiet robot starts typhoon **Is it wrong that this troper sung this to the tune of Omoide Ga Okkusenman, without breaking pitch, and would like the rest? * [[@/{{Ptitlepgy6ymio}} This troper]] once recorded a basic 12-bar blues with his guitar for about 2 minutes. Then, he used a random word generator to get as many random two-word phrases as possible. He then recorded those words over the 12-bar. He called the resulting "song" "Generator". * I took part in a thread at a forum that was called "musical telephone pictionary" - essentially one member would record a short bit of music, the next person would get it sent to them and add something, then send that to the next in line, and so on. I wrote the first verse entirely by using an online William S. Burroughs [[http://languageisavirus.com/electronicpoetry/index.html magnetic poetry kit]]. Then, because that just came out too creepy (including lines like "white delirious spiders explode twilight"), I decided to offset it by writing the second verse with the same site's Borat kit ("Prostitute party, start best dirty fun/ Shakira penetration, make money son"). * This troper wrote a deliberately nonsensical rhyme about the "Time

Manager". Who had to fight evil things with a "Wiz" and had to run away because he had "styles" which were illegal. No, I don't know what I was smoking, but I want some. * [[@/CaptHayfever This troper]], attempting to create a completely discordant song (it's even called "Dischord"), took the first verse of "Diddle Diddle Dumpling" (in CommonTime) & wrote four other 4-line stream-of-consciousness verses in four other time signatures, then scrambled up the respective lines of each one. ''[[ItGotWorse And then]]'' I rearranged the five 4-line verses into four 5-line verses, cycling between each time signature for each line of the new verses. ''[[NoKillLikeOverkill And then]]'' I paired them with an entirelyunrelated chorus (with a randomized tune each time I reach it). [[{{Understatement}} It's hard to sing.]] * This troper used to sing in a band. Our lyrics included such gems as: ** "be quiet. You'll hurt the bananas feelings/Yes but are they happy or are they sad?/I just think there feeling rather bad/Shut up you two, You'll ruin the song/It was ruined all along." ** "Sandstone, well what one's that?/can't read the label I'm as blind as a bat." ** "and - if I'm honest- I love you. Almost as much as my laptop." ** "I don't mind if it comes to an end/Chocolate is my second best friend/you may get an unsuspected werewolf bite." ** Bear in mind, the band was called No explanation needed. That makes the above lyrics completley [[JustifiedTrope justified.]] * When [[Tropers/ZiggyStardustForever this troper]] wrote poetry as a kid, it was always a bunch of silly gibberish that just happened to rhyme. I actually had no idea that poetry was supposed to ''make sense'' (mainly because the poetry I saw in books never made [[LiteralMinded any sense]] to me). * This troper did a poem like this at middle school. --> Stars roll under smelly teddy bear midnight --> Cardboard sushi depleted uranium --> Random fall inside gatling gun cat --> Serene wardrobe mate against evil chair * Anything and everything by Rob Zombie. What are 'educated horses'? ''How'' are they educated? [[{{RuleofCool}} Fuck, who cares, it's frigging awesome!]] * [[Tropers/KatanaCat This Troper]] writes these for fun. If she ever gets to record the songs, she's thinking about (possibly) going by "Robotic Pavo Muticus Muticus", after her favorite [[http://katanathe-cat.deviantart.com/art/Peacock-Badnik-Sprites-163776872 video game enemy design]] she's come up with. As for the lyrics themselves, "Indigo hiaku hatchlings" is totally random, and a bandy bandy is a kind of nonpoisonous Australian snake. --> Dancing singing pretty things --> [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs Trippy]] like a June in spring --> Purple cherry sparkle owl --> Hear the bandy bandy howl --> Grand piano flapping wings --> Ruby bouncing cartoon springs --> Redundant hair caught on things

--> Indigo hiaku hatchlings * This dude, wrote down a lyrics to a song called the RPG song. Named due to the fact that I used a Random Phrase Generator to come up with the lyrics. It was mocked by my idiotic friends because they thought the lyrics were s'pposed t'be serious. ---Fabric metal mushroom moon, Twigs and cardboard apple picks, Acid drops collect at noon, Go back to WordSaladLyrics ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WordSaladTitle * @/{{Andyzero}}: Way back, I recall a game a message board was playing where we'd take ridiculous titles to series and actually come up with a paragraph or two of a story where said title would actually be accurate. For example, Main/GalaxyAngel ended up looking like C.S. Lewis's That Hideous Strength, where Heaven and Hell are struggling throughout the solar system. Main/SailorMoon became a tale of Main/SpaceMarines who were stationed on the moon, etc. ** @/SabreJustice: Let's go. Make sense of ''[[NoMoreHeroes Pure White Lover Bizarre Jelly]]''. *** @/SeanTucker: It's about sentient semen trying to pick up girls. Duh. ** This troper likes to play a similar game, but in reverse--come up with crazy, anime-style titles for ordinary shows/movies/video games/whatever. However, it still has to be justified, in a distant sense, in the text. Without looking at the spoilers, can ''you'' [[InteractiveNarrator guess what the following shows, movies, and games are?]] *** ''[[spoiler:{{Mythbusters}}]]'' ''[[ExcitedEpisodeTitle Bang Bang! Fablemen]]'' *** ''[[spoiler:{{WALL-E}}]]'' ''Lonely Robo'' *** ''[[spoiler:{{Psychonauts}}]]'' ''Memory Boy Hyperdream'' *** ''[[spoiler:TheEmperorsNewGroove]] [[UsefulNotes Yatta!]] Change King'' *** ''[[spoiler:CodeLyoko]] Digital Factory [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]]'' *** ''[[spoiler: {{Bioshock}}]] P-E-R-F-E-C-T Eden: [[OddlyNamedSequel Fountain Square]]'' *** ...so if the names actually do have something to do with show/movie/game/whatever, how does it follow this trope? * [[@/{{Nomic}} This troper]] likes to suggest these kinds of names whenever people are coming up with a name for a team in some contest. Sadly nobody has so far agreed to name a team "Asskicking Hyper Team Doom Legion Go!". * [[@/MinusZero This troper]] has fun thinking of what really would happen if we make [[http://norefuge.net/vgng/vgng.html these games]].

** Somebody actually turned a game name from that generator into a real game: [[http://www.deleongames.com/nesky/index.php?page=forklift Planet of the Forklift Kid.]] It's BetterThanItSounds. ** There was also a [[http://www.tigsource.com/features/vgng/index.html competition]] based around it. [[{{Bisyss}} My]] favourites are ''[[http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=1295.0 ROM CHECK FAIL]]'' and ''[[http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=1322.0 Viking Bazooka Bloodbath]]''. * This troper used a bit of free generator code to build an "anime name generator" once. It came up with a few interesting ones, such as "[[PlanetaryRomance Rocket]] [[HellishPupils Hellish Eyes]]," "[[GratuitousSpanish Uno Dos]] Young Seven," "Underneath Logical 12," "Waltzing the Devil's Winter," and "Rocket Kid Science" (which would also work as a WesternAnimation show title, come of think of it). It also produced a few patently absurd ones. They included "Eat Your New Jelly," "Cowboy Day-Glo Method," "Happy Abnormal Heartburn," and this troper's personal favorite, "Destiny Meat Riders." ** There were also two which this troper came up with genuine plots for: "Red Hot Pointy Combat Boots," and "BountyHunter[[{{Honorifics}} -chan]]." ** "Cowboy Day-Glo Method" and "Destiny Meat Riders" would be AGoodNameForARockBand. *** ...and "Waltzing the Devil's Winter" would be an awesome name for a song. **** Or a shoujo manga. "A young dancer girl captures the heart of the devil himself by waltzing on the snow..." would be overly stereotypical, but better than some. Then he either saves her from the snow, of he's actually more like a supernatural being who's been really lonely from the beginning of time because he's called a devil (and acts the part, because All Girls Want Bad Boys, but he also has to be a bishie and wear an awesome white kimono) and the winter follows him wherever he goes, but she, being a Genki Girl or The Messiah, isn't afraid of him and sees his good side, and in the last page of this beautiful would-be one shot they're dancing out on the snow together and he's smiling for the first time. I think I got carried away. **** ...AWESOME! * This troper had a friend who would come with deliberately nonsensical names for his characters in tabletop games that seemed to be made of this trope. Examples include Rip Kong, Casual Metworst, Professor Grunthos, Brutus Clodpopper Maximus, Taphult Spring and the infamous Field Marshall Doctor Sinn I. By the way, that was his name, not his title. He was a corporal in the army... and a doctor. His full name was thus ''Corporal Field Marshall Doctor Sinn I, MD''. His son would have been Field Marshall Doctor Sinn I Jr. * There is a [[http://videogamena.me/ site]] that keeps generating [[WordSaladTitle Word Salad Titles]] for videogames and most of them are hilarious: ** Morbidly Obese Soccer Lord ** Return of the Amish GT ** Dynamite Rabbit Princess

** Kamikaze Surgery Quest ** Teenage Tetris Attack

* This troper and her mother once spent a good hour discussing how strange some anime and manga names are, which led to us trying to make up some titles of our own. We came up with gems like "Tiger Roaming Sideways". * This troper started an {{Animesque}} play-by-post RP with the title "Let's Go Ultra Hero Super Burning Dimension Force!" * [[@/{{Sisperini}} This Troper]] decided to name her imaginary anime show (or more accurately, never-written doujinshi) "Hard Love Messenger". It's supposed to be a reference to the song "Roses Are Red" by Aqua. The [[{{Mondegreen}} original lyric]] is actually "Heart Love Messenger", but replacing "heart" with "hard" makes it [[{{RuleOfCool}} sound cooler]]. Anyway, the "show" has nothing to do with hardness or messengers, but there is quite a bit of romance in it. ** Er... you do realize [[AccidentalInnuendo what that sounds like]], [[{{Squick}} right?]] * [[@/MonsterDog This troper]] does this with the titles on his college papers, just to make his professors ask questions. A recent paper on Voltaire's Candide was subtitled: "Glossy Pans and Turkish Delight Packed into [[HomestarRunner Can D]] and Distributed Wherever the Cune Had Gonde, Except the Bulgarians." * @/CrashGordon94 is developing a series called [[LogicBomb "End Of The Shape"]] which is about street racing (Think ForzaMotorsport + NeedForSpeed + {{Burnout}} [[ThisIsYourPremiseOnDrugs + Weed]]) and a Mercenary team called [[FunWithAcronyms MERSECT]] ([[KidHero which consists of teenagers]]) that save the world. The name actually has a story behind it if anyone's interested. * One of This Troper's ''nicknames'' is this. This one guy at high school calls me "Giant Alien Chicken Giraffe". I am honestly as baffled as you. ** This Troper has a friend called 'Wokka Flocka'. Don't ask. * For a review game in This Troper's History class, [[CloudCuckooLander a friend of her's]] wanted to call their team Super Awesome Ninjatastic hamster force 7. They were NONE of these things. * [[@/{{Kathadrion}} This Swedish troper]] and her scout patrol called themselves "Herrarnas hemmafrufrening" for a while. (It roughly translates to: "The Gentlemen's housewife association.") We weren't men and we weren't housewives. We weren't even really an association. * A friend of this troper made up a superhero team called, Team-AlphaFalcon-Dynamite! * This troper and her friend both write stories. Mine are mostly short fantasy ones with titles that make sense in (a very twisted kind of) context while trying to sound cool. She has written a total of 3 stories, mostly romance and fantasy, with titles that are Exactly What It Says On The Tin with a touch of Mind Screw and Symbolic. ** My titles would be the following: Thrill Garden, Nightmares Princess, Pure White Heard, Bounty Eater, Half Death Crisis and Bitter

Method. ** And Hers: Standard Yellow Acid Galaxy, Seventh Wish Goes Boom (basically a way to say Be Careful With What You Wish For, but not if you stop at the sixth wish), and my personal favorite, Lethal Death Left Bladeless (thankfully, this one is a parody). ** And then theres our collaboration, a three-part story which had Metha-Revived Archer Luck as a title. Its hard to explain since everything is made up of Hebrew puns, but Metha is similar to a word that means she is dead and is also the beginning of Methadone, Luck would also mean a sign of the zodiac, and Archer is also Sagittarius. The story begins with a girl who is tortured and raped until her pain is removed by an arrow and shes revived as one of twelve zodiac people, thus getting lucky for the first time. The one who saved her is Sagittarius (who is not half-horse, that would be disturbing), and they have a nice love story where shes emotionally depending on him to squick levels, until he dies toward the end of the story and Methadone comes in again, as a way to symbolically say that she was addicted to him and now has to get over it, as methadone is often used as a replacement for Heroin-addicts. Needless to say, the story is full of deliberate squickness. And we also made the title up first, the story came later. ---[[SuperPunkOctoPuddingGasMarkSeven Amazing Atmosphere Link Science Battle Trope!]] ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WorkingTitle * ''TroperWorks/{{Covert-81}}'' was originally called ''Section 91: Tales of the Cold War'' until the sim was expanded to include Chameleon (originally called the Crescent Brigade). The original name for [[SilentHunter this troper's]] later RP, ''The Mallard Club'' was ''As The Lights Go Out''. * This troper ''cannot'' write a chapter without writing the title first; it just feels wrong. So I have a lot of working ''chapter'' titles that were later changed, either because I later realised my first idea was [[OldShame embarrassingly bad]] or just because the plot intended for that chapter ended up needing two, so the original title was no longer appropriate. For instance, a chapter titled after two characters, one of whom ended up not appearing in it. * This troper is working on what he calls [[TrilogyCreep a double trilogy with seven books]]. All parts in the trilogy are codenamed with either A or C + the number of the book while the seventh is just B7 (as in book seven). A and C are the initials for the trilogy names, Aheat and Craehenat. Both of which mean something in a ConLang that he's created. * This troper often uses NATO or US {{Reporting Names}} as working titles for his projects. Some projects that follow this scheme include

[[{{World War Two}} Zeke, Kate]], [[{{Cold War}} Frogfoot, and Backfire]]. ---Go back to [[WorkingTitle "The Thing" here]], but keep in mind we'll probably change it when it goes to print.

WorldLimitedToThePlot * This troper was playing {{Kult}} with a very bad and uninspired gamemaster. When I or another player tried to do something that wasn't predetermined in the adventure that we would do, it just wasn't possible... for whatever contrived reason. Deciding to go to the library to check for more information? Sorry, the library is closed for summer! After a while it felt as if I was actually in The Thirteenth Floor, starting to see the cad-lines surrounding my little universe. This experience eventually led to the creation of the trope. ---Return to the main article [[WorldLimitedToThePlot here]], because it's not like there are any other pages out there anyway. ----

WorldOfCardboardSpeech * Tropers/{{Icarael}} once wrote one for a character in a not-quite{{Persona}} RP who was facing off against one of the main antagonists, a short shadowy figure who could summon Mooks from the shadows. --> "Hey, guess what. I almost forgot. I can do... this." --> ''[Cue the character's {{Mon}} giving off a halo of light that hurts all [[TheHeartless "Errors"]] in the vicinity]'' --> "My Phantasm's seldom used this power; this halo of light blinds everyone, humans and Errors alike- everyone but the kid controlling him. Everyone but me. And I've always kept a close watch on my abilities, never using it unless pressed to do so... because I know the horrible things one man with this much power can do. But this time, I know I'm looking evil in the eye. And that's why I can stand face to face with you and go all out, showing absolutely no mercy, no remorse, and no fear. --> "Now come on. Take your best shot, vermin." ** Cue said character kicking ass versus a giant monster and even managing to injure the BigBad by stabbing him in the face... and then he ended up getting mind-raped into submission. * All the way up to 7th grade, this tropette was bullied. [[KidsAreCruel Harshly.]] Finally, one fateful day, I stood up for myself. --> Idiot 1: -Idiot 1 and Idiot 2 walk up to me- "Hey, dumbass! Go

fuck yourself!" --> Idiot 2: "Yeah, fuckwad! Why don't ya go to your little corner and cry~?" --> Me (irritated): "Shut up." --> Idiot 1: "What the fuck did you say, bitch?!" --> Me (passive aggressive): "I said shut up." --> Idiot 2: "You motherfuckering bitch!" -Idiot 2 hits me--> Me (pissed off now): -stands up- "You shouldn't do that, you know. I may be strange. I may be an outcast. I may not have many friends. But that gives you no right to hit me. Because, you see, I'm stronger than I look. You chose the wrong person to pick on when you first found me in sixth grade. Because you made me pissed, [[PreAssKickingOneLiner and now you will have to pay.]] ** I then proceeded to kick their asses, and they never bothered me again. The best part? While this did happen at school, I didn't get in trouble because I was acting in defense and my mom helped me out. The bullies, on the other hand, got suspended. It's nice to know I can defend myself, but then again I'm really lucky, and I didn't really want to have to go ''that'' far. ---Get ready to cut loose with your full power as you go back to WorldOfCardboardSpeech. ----

WorldOfWarcraft [[{{Tropers/Rossmallo}} This Troper]] is a level 85 Blood Elf Mage, and in a boring bit of downtime in Cataclysm, my guild decided to do a run of The Temple of Anquira'ji (a level 60 40 man dungeon). However, loads of the hangers-on didnt have a single clue how to work at it, going by the whole tank-n-spank approach and [[LeeroyJenkins leaving others behind because they wanted it to be fast as possible.]] We eventually got to [[EldritchAbomination C'thun]], the final boss. Again, not knowing what they were supposed to be doing. Out of the 20 people in the raid, 14 of them died in the first 10 seconds due to Cthun's [[FrickinLaserBeams omegaraidkillingeyebeam]], leaving me, two tanks, a healer, a random Rogue who somehow managed to Cheat Death out of the million-damage hit and a random level 60 druid. Apart from the aformentioned druid, the rest of us survived. The last of us managed to pull of a [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu 5-man kill of C'thun,]] despite it still being a hard-ish encounter. * A friend of mine claims that she prefers the Horde because the Alliance are vicious and attack the Horde a lot. In the 13 months I've been playing on both factions, I've seen the Alliance attack the Horde approximately three times. Meanwhile, it's rare to see the Horde attack the Alliance less than that many times a ''week''. ** It's really a matter of opinion it depends on the server I guess, when I was playing Hordie, Allys hardly ever came up on the map in Twilight's Hammer, while there were frequent raids on SW. On Neptulon I'm playing an Ally and I haven't seen a raid on SW in like ever. *** Ever since Cataclysm, the attacks have all but stopped, probably

to do with buffed up guards, different city layouts, or something. This troper played a Rogue (forget what level he was at the time) during a battleground at Arathi Basin. The Alliance just took the lumbermill and we were busy fighting off some of the horde trying to take it back, and at one point I was fighing a Horde Member near the cliff's edge close to the flag. I was getting low on health, so to buy time, I used the Blind ability to make my target stagger around for a few seconds while I bandaged myself quickly. In a [[CrowningmomentofFunny surprising twist]], the aforementioned blind Horde was staggering around so much he actually walked right OFF the cliff and died on the bottom. And I still got credit for the kill! ---Two from [[Tropers/JKRoo me]]; shortly after the Icecrown Citadel dungeons were opened, I was in a group with a few other players who had yet to run through them before. We ended up inside the Forge of Souls, and I was on my DPS Death Knight for the run. Despite explaining how the Bronjham fight went, the party ended up wiping to the Soulstorm at around 15% health left on him... except for me. ''And I took him out'', with the rest of the group's responses going from "aw, man, wipe", to "whoa. He has a chance", and finally to "you got him! YOU GOT HIM! You killed him!". * Second one happened in Blackrock Caverns, in a party composed of the guild I had just joined; we stopped before Corla and our tank explained that we needed to step between her and her two minions when she targeted them with a beam. Just then, a patrol of trash mobs wandered too close and aggroed on us. The group quickly went to work on them... only to see Corla's aggro speech. Apparently, the hunter of the group hadn't caught on to the patrol and had auto-shot her. We ended up with at least seven mobs attacking our party, boss included... and without a problem, we worked together and killed them all, without losing a single player. ---This troper managed to completely overturn traditional Horde battleground superiority in a 30s-bracket Arathi Basin engagement during Burning Crusade. My 36 Rogue got pinned on the central island with the Blacksmith objective, with five Horde blocking the best exits and no support likely. Bored, I popped a distraction on the Hunter at the central flag for the heck of it, doing nothing but alerting them to my presence (honestly, I was hoping for SuicideByCop so I could get back into the fray more easily). To my utter amazement, the Hunter not only volleyed every area-of-effect shot he had at the wrong half of the island, but got his friends to leave their posts and do the same. None of them came within about fifty in-game "yards" of me. I could probably have made a break for it, but I was having too much fun. Every thirty seconds, another Distraction went out, and by the climax of the battle [[GeneralFailure all fifteen Horde were frantically searching]] ''[[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy the wrong half of the island]]'' [[IdiotBall for one underleveled Rogue]] while [[CurbStompBattle the Alliance captured all four other points, pincered the Blacksmith, and pummeled the Horde into oblivion.]] I finally emerged from stealth to grab the objective flag out from behind the defenders. Although the "away-from-keyboard" effect will

kick me out of the battle if I don't fight anything for too long a period nowadays, I still have this memory to look back on. * For those who are interested, the character is Berity on the Elune server, who I've stopped using but who has since been reborn on the Wyrmrest Accord roleplaying server. Yes, the above incident is in her backstory. ---[[@/FarseerLolotea This troper]] was preparing for the opera event in Karazhan when the fury warrior (hereafter Bizarkognome) decided to remove all of his gear, run out onto the stage, and start the event on his own for no particular reason. That was when the healadin (hereafter Vindicaderp) decided to ''follow'' him right before the door closed. Bizarkognome, with Vindicaderp frantically healing him, [[LeeroyJenkins attacked Julianne]]. She ignored him and started attacking the rest of the raid through the wall. Everyone ran out. Bizarkognome and Vindicaderp, against all odds, managed not to die before Julianne despawned; to this day, no one's entirely sure ''how''. ---This Troper is still amazed how he managed to survive an already dangerous pull that was [[ItGotWorse made worse]] when patrolling mooks came as well. I was the last player standing after the massacre... as a Holy Priest. I managed to survive via a combination of running away like a headless chicken while spamming Holy Nova. ---[[{{@/Rampulus}} This troper]] recently joined a Grim Batol Heroic group late in the dungeon, apparently replacing a DPS who left after a failed attempt on the third boss. The group proceeded to wipe a few times on the [[http://www.wowhead.com/npc=40484 last boss]], making stupid mistakes such as getting hit by Binding Shadows, not running into the safe spot for Shadow Gale and, worst of all, not killing the adds quickly enough, which results in more adds coming out, the boss recovering his health and the group failing the achievement. After the second wipe, one of the DPS left and we got a superior replacement, but even so, we wiped again. Finally, the new DPS and my explaining the fight apparently sunk in quite well, as we not only managed to kill the boss, but managed to get the achievement in the process. The lesson here is that [=PUGs=] can get better with practice if people stick with them. ---There's nothing quite as cathartic as watching a very bad tank die of his own poor decisions. Even better, though, is being the paladin healer who after doing her best to save the idiot and explaining to him why he died in as polite a manner as possible and being told to "tank it urself if ur so smart", proceeds to equip a shield and ''switch to holy-tanking mid fight while still healing the DPS, culminating in the defeat of the boss while the tank lies dead on the dungeon floor.'' Paladin healing: not for the faint of heart. ---''Frostsabre.'' What happens when this troper has an a) an arsed (if

you get past that NostalgiaFilter) pre BC video from 2005 (just me doing my thing on my hunter), b) a birth mother he hasn't seen since before two-thousand-and-x (before my hunter came about), c) and [[OurGraphicsWillSuckinTheFuture she has dial-up in 2011?]] She [[DeusExMachina finds out]] that I have played (I have since quit after the FanDumb on the forums got cranked UpToEleven) WoW and found those WoW videos on YouTube. * What'll come next? That I wrote that on TroperTales? ---This troper's [=CMoA=] came during Burning Crusade, doing an Auchenai Crypts run as a Tankadin, around level 65. Fighting [[http://www.wowhead.com/npc=18371 Shirrak the Dead Watcher]] (the Beholder-like boss), my group were killed off by the time he was at 50%, leaving my Paladin the only one standing. Using a number of CD's (bubble was safe to use at this point), I managed to take the Undead Boss from 50% to nothing, with about 1/4 of my own health bar left. ---I once had a minor VillainousBreakdown after getting kicked out of an [=OS3D=] run. I had been defiant to others in the group after one person gave me a hard time for doing wrong, I told him that I'll admit my fault but to God and not the likes of him...they showed my bad dps and kicked me out. I snapped and started laughing at them, began to hearth, and said "I was just phoning it in anyway, have fun with your five year old game!" I had been waiting for FinalFantasy14 at the time and figured I'd be rid of WoW forever. Boy howdy was I wrong. ---This Troper plays WoW off and on, usually as a tank(years ago, friends bought me the game and said 'Roll paladin, we need a tank'). Cataclysm introduced some heroic versions of old lvl 60 troll dungeons, Zul'Aman and Zul'Gurub. The later has as its first boss Venoxis; makes a maze of toxins that one-hit kills you if you touch it, sprays venom, becomes a snake(which of COURSE doesn't help), and is generally a pain for PUGs. Due to the ineptitude of DPS and healers, Ive learned how to solo him; Ive done it 6 times now, killing a dungeon boss by virtue of being a *TANK*. I Laugh At Your Damage! * Actually, Venoxis is considerably easier the fewer people you have. He can't Toxic Link the tank, his single target damage isn't ridiculous, so all you really have to do is avoid Bloodvenom when he channels it, while with 5 people, you have a lot of Toxic Links going out for high damage, people more likely to hit the green lines, and Bloodvenoms that chase people. It's significantly easier with just a tank or a tank and healer. ---This Troper plays as a draenei mage and recalls the first time he did daily quest "Rescue at Sea", with the following quote from some kvaldir: "You've strayed too far from your comfortable soil, draenei!". I looked into his eyes, made sure he noticed endless lightyears of cosmic travel within mine, and quietly uttered: "[[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow You can't imagine HOW far]]". Then I let him taste caress of vacuum, heat of the star-core and chill of the void. He didn't survive that. ----

A long time ago now, but once during a guild run of Kara (''that'' long ago, to be precise), some people were joking around in Vent about various ways to trick people into typing /gquit and leaving their guild. [[{{Tropers/xyzzy}} This troper]] decided to chip in with some [[SchmuckBait helpful]] advice - "Oh, that doesn't work anymore, there's a confirmation box now." Cue one "[raidmember] has left the guild" message, and immense laughter. He was invited back in right away and the run continued (I seem to recall he was tanking)... and the next day, someone even remembered to repromote him to his officer position. I wonder if there really ''is'' a confirmation box now? ---Go back to WorldOfWarcraft. Watch out for Paladins. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WorldWarII * This troper's grandfather on his dad's side flew in a B-17 Flying Fortress during WWII. He was the underbelly Ball Turret gunner, one of the most dangerous spots on the plane. Once, his turret was shot out from under him, and he had to hold on to a metal beam hanging in open air until one of his buddies, going to check on the rear turret gunner, saw him and pulled him up. If his buddy had not come by within another minute, I would not be here today. * This Troper's best friend's father fought in WWII. He was an engineer in the Polish army and passed away January of this year. Reading this page made me infinitely more proud to have met someone like him. * This Troper is a history buff with emphasis on WWII while both of his grandfathers fought in different theaters. * Why young boy let me tell you bout this ol world war second, we were fightin that ol Adolf Hitler and his ol nazi soldiers, why we put up quite a fight in thosse ol bunkers, now keep in mind we didn't have thesse newfangled guns and flying machines to help us, Oh no it was quite difficult with thosse ol guns of ours, but our men were in fightin spirits with 'ol George Lincoln fighting along our sides. ** Grandpa, you were a chef in the navy. ** There are some facinating stories out there about what some chefs did in various wars, don't know them. * This troper's great uncles on her dad's side both fought in the war, one in the Pacific and one in Europe. Both survived. * All three of this troper's great-uncles were [=USAAF=] veterans. * My grandfather was in WWII...sort of. He actually landed the day ''after'' V-E Day, promptly tripped over a tent peg and injured his foot, and got a Purple Heart for it. I couldn't make this up if I tried. * This troper had ancestors on both sides of the war. On his father's side, his grandmother's older brother was part of the 442nd Regimental Combat Team and survived the war, passing away in 1995. On his mother's side, his grandmother's older brother was a sailor on the

cruiser Myoukou and died of wounds received in an American air attack, and his grandfather was a military policeman in Korea who was kicked out for insubordination. The grandfather was transferred to a munitions factory in Manchuria, got captured by the Soviets in the last days of the war, and spent three years in a Siberian prison camp before returning to Japan. Sadly, he died when my mom was in high school, so I never got to meet him. * I had a granduncle who survived Corregidor, The Baatan Death March, spent a few months in a Japanese POW camp, and escaped to become a guerrilla fighter against the Japanese for the rest of the war. My dad was taught Japanese when they took over the Philippines. He remembers the particular piece of Japanese propaganda that went, "Asia for Asians". * This troper's grandfather was an officer in the US Navy during the war, serving aboard an aircraft carrier in the Pacific. * This Canadian troper's great-uncle was a member of the Waffen-SS, and was killed in action on the Eastern Front in 1944. * My mother had two uncles who served in World War II. One was stationed in Australia (I don't know which branch of the U. S. Military he served in, though). The other uncle was stationed in Europe with the Army, and his unit helped liberate two concentration camps--he came back an incredibly nervous man and suffered from PostTraumatic Stress Disorder for the rest of his life. * [[LittleSerge This (Canadian) Troper's]] grandfather as a paratrooper during the war. From what we've been told, he took part in several secret missions (we know this largely from the fact that he only knew bits and pieces of what he was doing / where he was going, etc.), and it's been strongly hinted that he took part in Operation Market-Garden. He never liked to talk about it much, so nobody hounded him for details. My other grandfather also served as a reserve soldier in the RCAF. * At least three of [[{{Meshakhad}} this troper]]'s ancestors served in World War II. My maternal grandfather was a medic in Europe under Patton. My paternal grandfather disarmed bombs for the Navy including booby traps on captured Japanese warships. He collected the fuses (and one clock from a destroyer). And his brother (my greatuncle) was in the Marines and won the Silver Star for bravery. * Both of this troper's grandfathers served in World War II for the Allies, but for different nations-her maternal grandfather was an infantryman for the Soviet Union who saw the liberation of Berlin, and her paternal grandfather saw Japan from the bombsight of an American bomber. Both of her Russian great-uncles also served, but one died at Stalingrad and the other in Germany a few days before the attack on Berlin itself began. * This American troper always gets rather uncomfortable in "should we have dropped the bomb" arguments, because her Granddad was to be in the invasion of Japan and she would almost surely not exist right now had the bomb not been dropped. * This troper's paternal grandfather was a radar specialist with the air force. He was almost shot down on a couple missions. Two of my maternal grandmother's younger brothers were with the army. The older of the two fought in the Pacific. During a battle in Okinawa, he was

hit in the stomach by a piece of shrapnel. The infection killed him three months later, just before the war ended. The younger one fought in Europe. He was in the battle of the Bulge. We also suspect he saw the concentration camps, but since he won't talk about it, and no one can get his service records until he dies, we don't know for sure. * One of this troper's grandfathers fought in the war and it is the only reason he is a US citizen (He's Indian American) * This troper's parternal grandfather was on a destroyer named the USS Belknap during the war, and between 1940 and 1944, he was at least partially responsible for sinking three German U-Boats in his career. He was later transferred to the Pacific theater where he claims to have participated in the Battles for the Phillippines, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. His destroyer was crippled in an earlier battle by a Kamikaze attack and thus, during Okinawa, he was transferred to crew an LVT instead. He claims that American ships were so crowded together during the last battle that the Japanese didn't even ''try'' to aim their torpedoes. * This troper had relatives on both sides of the war. He had a great grandfather and a great uncle who were at D-Day, and the uncle was killed in action. He also had a great uncle on his father's side who was in the Wermacht, and fought during the Fall Gelb, and at Normandy as well. The amazing thing is that both my American great grandfather and my German uncle met once a couple years ago and actually became good friends despite being on opposite sides of the war, and even fighting in the same battles against each other. * [[PurplePantherGirl This troper's]] grandfather was a German Jew. Yep. After risking his life to save his friends and family, he headed off to Scotland, met my grandmother, had my father and his six siblings. My father went to England for university, met my mum who'd moved from Wales to got to university. Then they graduated, got married, had me, moved Wales had my brother and that is my life. * This troper's maternal grandmother lived in Poland, and after it got invaded by the Nazis and the Soviets, got deported to Siberia eith her family because her mother was a foreign language teacher. Then after the Nazis attacked the Soviets, they released her and her family, who then made their way down through central Asia to Iran, met my grandfather, stayed a few years becasue both of their parents were teachers and were teaching at the school for Polish refugees, and then near the end of the war made their way to Britain and started a new life in Oxford. My grandfather then immediatly tried to join up with the army, but was rejected because the war with Germany was nearly over. He was dissapointed, to say the least, because he had assumed that the Allies would start a war with the Soviet Union because they were obviously the bad guys. * My grandfather worked at an airbase during World War 2. He was stationed in Nova Scotia, where he would help repair and reload bombers coming in from France. * My father was drafted (with six kids!) and was actually put in a job that he fit. He and my grandfather ran the local post office, and he was in the Army Postal Service, on Guam. Two of my mother's brothers were in the US Navy, one on a mine layer, one on a mine sweeper. At least the were in different theaters. They all made it home.

* This troper's Grandfather was apparently on a train, to get to a plane, when the war ended. Some good luck there. * {{Smerf}}: my grandfather and his best friend waited until the end of football season, then joined lied about their ages adn the Navy at 16. They both got stationed in Alaska, where they did everything they could (up to and including stealing their commander's Jeep) to get set to the actual fighting. Their commander was GenreAware and kept them in Alaska. ** I also had a patient while an intern that was a member of the German army. Her entire class of medical school got drafted and she was sent to the Eastern Front, where her unit was the last medical unit to leave the area. Nice lady, still very pissed at Hitler: she never got a chance to finish med school. * This troper's paternal grandfather fought as a guerilla against the Japanese in his native land of China. This troper's paternal grandmother fled from Manchuria to Beijing to Nanjing (she left something like three hours before the [[MoralEventHorizon Rape of Nanjing]] due to the fact that her father spoke fluent Japanese and was therefore able to pass himself and his family off as such and could hear the screams coming from the city as she drove off...) to Shanghai, where she eventually took refuge at the US Embassy, met the aforementioned grandfather, and got married. Her maternal grandfather was also a guerilla fighter, only in the south, and her maternal grandmother was part of the not-really-defined home front helping the guerillas. Take one guess how they met. * This troper (being from Sweden) has no relatives who fought in the war, but has two friends whose (Norwegian) grandfathers did. One helped blow up the Nazi heavy-water factory in the Telemark, the other got shot at Leningrad and got an Iron Cross. * This troper's grand-uncle claims to be the 13th US serviceman to set foot in Japan. He was the radio operator on the plane that ferried the first team of negotiators to Japan to set up the surrender talks after Nagasaki. He recalls that there were thirteen on the plane; as the lowest-ranking man, he was last to step off. * My grandfather escaped from Hungary in the 30's, got to America, joined up, shipped off to the pacific, and brought back the rifle of a Japanese soldier with 6 notches on it. * One of my great-uncles was in the Battle of the Bulge. Due to a ''really'' nasty infection he got there, he was a mean old man for the rest of his life. A different one also fought in France somewhere (his story is rather vague, given how long ago he died); he was hiding behind a pile of logs with his unit when a bunch of Germans showed up with machine guns. His entire squad was killed and he was pretty much cut in half by machine gun fire, but, holding his insides in with one hand, he nonetheless got up and managed to kill eight Germans. He survived and came back, somehow. I wish I knew more about the man. * One of this troper's distant relatives belonged to Wernher von Braun's security staff. Does that count? * [[{{Crion87}} This Australian troper]]'s (deceased since before he was born) Australian grandfather served in the [[{{Almighty Janitor}} engineering corps]] at the [[{{Death World}} Kokoda Track in Papua New Guinea]] against the forces of ImperialJapan. Notably, he apparently

(this is what my mother told me) tried to stop an United States Marine from looting one of the enemy dead's gold teeth. * The only thing I know about my grandfather's involvement in the war was told to me by my mother when I was six or seven: "Honey, your grandpa was in WWII. Never mention it to him. [[UnderStatement It upsets him.]]" To this day, I don't even know what branch he was in. * This troper's maternal grandfather was at Dunkirk. Their paternal grandmother was Italian while their paternal grandfather was English and served in the RAF. They met when he was stationed near Naples. It is rather strange to realize that you owe your existance to a war. ** Apparently their paternal grandfather never talked about the war, so all of the stories on that side of the family are from their nan. The two most memorable ones were the Germans stealing her sister's rabbits when they retreated from the area, and a plane crashing into Vesuvius. * This troper had three great uncles, one maternal, two paternal who served in said war, the first in the Marines and the latter two in the Army. One was killed at the Bulge, another didn't actually make it to Europe until a few days before the ending (but, man, does he have some stories about being an incredibly dark Jewish/African American MP in occupied Berlin!). The other one fought his way across various islands and was designated for beach landing in Japan when the bomb went down. His paternal grandfather was too young to fight in said war, his stories being during Korea, and his maternal grandfather considered too critical to the home-front war effort. * This (Israeli) troper's grandmother came to Israel from Poland before the war, but her family stayed in Poland. However, they were in the part of Poland that was annexed by the Soviet Union in 1939, so from '39 to '41 they were still somewhatly okay. We have letters exchanged between my grandmother and her sister from that time period - including one last {{Tear Jerker}} letter from 1941 right after the Germans conquered the rest of Poland. * My grandfather told me a story once about how, during the war, his unit was stuck behind enemy lines and was forced to use stolen German guns to hunt wild venison for food. After said grandfather died, we discovered a lot of war decorations he never told anyone about. * This troper's great-grandmother (mother's maternal grandmother) worked for the Canadian Air Force near her home town during the war. I also had two great-granduncles (great-grandparents' siblings) who fought in the war. One was killed around Dunkirk, while the other is still around. I also had a greatuncle (paternal side) who fought in Europe during WWII, and he nearly got married to a German girl after the war. The thing is, she dumped my great-uncle at the train station in Winnipeg so that she could go to New York to live with relatives there. My great-uncle then proceeded to get very drunk, go home, and pass out in front of my great-grandmother. * This Troper's maternal grandfather was a Communist Guerrilla in the Second Sino-Japanese War. According to my mother, he and his unit were being chased up a small mountain by Imperial forces. He jumped off the mountain and broke his legs. My paternal grandmother happened to be a village girl. She had her village burned down numerous times by the Japanese. Even then, she still found it in herself to provide cover

for guerrillas from the Japanese. * This troper's paternal grandpa fought in the Army. On the other hand, she recently discovered that her great-grandmother saved the newspapers published when Pearl Harbor was bombed. * 2 of this troper's grandfathers fought in the war and one of this troper's grandmothers worked in the navy ** This troper's grandfather was a first lieutenant in the army. He fought in the pacific in Guadalcanal and the Solomon islands. He recieved the bronze star for drawing fire away from his troops and two purple hearts for receiving head injuries from a grenade and a bullet. ** He also sold a jeep for a bunch of chickens to feed his platoon, despite having no authority to do so. Apparently, It's much funnier when he tells the story, but I never met him, so I wouldn't know. ** This troper's other grandfather was a chief boatsman on [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pasadena_%28CL-65%29 USS Pasadena]]. * Its all Hitler and Stalin's fault that [[{{Tropers/Surenity}} this troper]] was born in America and not Armenia. To make a long story short, Armenia was a part of the Soviet Union and my grandfather was drafted to fight in World War II. He was captured by the Germans and placed in a POW camp, and after the war ended he was unable to return to the Soviet Union because former prisoners who returned were sent straight to the gulag (and he'd already been through that once before, and actually escaped). So he stayed in Germany for a time, got married, and moved his new family to America, spending the rest of his life basically in exile. * This troper's grandfather fought for the Polish Army. I've seen his medal from the Battle of Monte Cassino, and he and his family moved to the UK after the war, where my father was born, before coming to the United States. It makes me extremely proud that he fought as a free man against the Nazis and survived to live as a free man in the U.S. Unfortunately, he passed away before I was born. * The father of this troper's maternal grandmother was stationed along the Swedish/Norwegian border. According to him, they cut down trees, painted them black and placed them in a position that made them look like actual artillery, as the Swedish army had almost no real ones. Also, there were those strange trains passing over the border that they were ordered to pretend never existed.. All in all, not everyone has a glorious past. * This troper's male line great-grandfather was in the Dutch resistance (above the Rhine) during most of the war. He was captured and deported in the last months of the war. While his train was underway, the concentration camp he was to be sent to was captured, but the train stopped and moved back and forth along the tracks to avoid capture. He and countless others died just days before the train was finally captures. While my great grandfather was still in the resistance, my grandfather and his mother went into hiding in the Frisian countryside, where he met my grandmother to be. So if it weren't for WorldWarTwo, this troper wouldn't exist. * This Australian Troper's Grandfather was a sapper during the war who designed minefields. He served in North Africa, at Tobruk, and in the South Pacific. He ended the war in Borneo and his unit was waiting on

the docks for the ship to take them back home when it hit a mine and blew up coming into port. He had to wait for another boat to come and get him. * One troper, two examples: ** My maternal grandfather was a Marine Corps drill instructor during that time. ** I sing in a community choir. I once sat next to a WWII veteran in the bass section; he said that the only German he learned during his time as a POW was [[ForeignCussWord cursing]], so singing German (Beethoven's Ninth Symphony) was a new experience for him. Rest in peace, Ed. * This Troper had a relative that served in world war II. I'm posting this even though no one but myself cares, but it will be accepted because everyone else wants to post how special and unique they are (You aren't by the way). * This tropers grandfather fought in the battle of the bulge and his brothers (my granduncles) fought in the Pacific Campaign. * This troper's family is full of such stories, told over and over again to her. Her paternal grandmother had 17 cousins who all served in WWII. Even more amazing? All 17 ''survived the war [[BeyondTheImpossible and came home.]]'' On her paternal grandfather's side, there were his older brothers. One had a position that was very hush-hush. After the war, it came to light he was the one who knew almost every secret code the army was using at the time, which made him the man the Germans most wanted to capture. He had two guys following him around constantly to make sure he stayed safe, or if worst came to worst, to shoot him so that he wouldn't be forced to talk. The other served in a tank. Back then, they personalized them with names painted on the sides and such He came home after being wounded and was watching a newsreel at the movies with his girlfriend, later wife, when his tank appeared on the screen. He stood up shouting, "That's my tank!".....just in time to watch a shell hit it and turn it into a piece of scrap metal. He sank back down in shock, thinking all his buddies were dead. Don't worry though. As it later turned out, all the guys inside, by some miracle of God, were all fine. * This troper's grandfather (R.I.P) was born in 1911. His parents died when he was 3 and he lived in an orphanage until he was 13, after which he ran away. I never learned the details of what he did later, but as you can see, he lived through BOTH world wars. In WWII, he brought Polish women into Israel (then Palestine) by marrying them, coming with them to Israel and then divorcing them, repeating this cycle several times for several women. At one point, he found his true love and swore to come back for her. When he did, she was already taken by the Nazis. After the war, he married my grandmother, and was married to her until he passed away. in 2007. He was 96. And he was stronger than me the whole time I knew him. R.I.P grandpa. ---Use your new technomochanicnology to go back WorldWarTwo, which you young whippersnappers know nothing about, why did I ever tell you of the story of how I got the nickname of...uhhh...I forget...sonnny, go get me my medication.

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WorstAid * This Troper once proofread a book a friend was writing. In the book, the main character tied a tourniquet around her neck to stop a cut from bleeding there. What was most surprising was that a ''pre-med student'' had to be told why using a device meant to stop the flow of blood on the neck was a bad idea. * This troper heard a story from a Nevada State Trooper. The Trooper saw a car by the side of the road, with some sort of struggle going on inside. When he approached, he saw three men seemingly attempting to strangle a fourth man with his own tie. When he pulled them apart, he learned that the three men were friends of the fourth man, but all were very drunk. The fourth man had been injured and had a bleeding head wound, and they had tried to fix it with a tourniquet to the neck. None of them had noticed that it had stopped bleeding a while back, and thankfully they were all too drunk to do it right. * Chalk up another point for the neck tourniquet meme: This troper's dad suffered a head wound, and had to fend off his sister, who was itching to try out her new first aid skills at any cost. * This Troper used to be a part of the New Zealand Sea Cadets. During a national regatta (an annual event involving all Sea Cadet groups converging on a naval base in the upper north island to compete against each other with pretty much any skill imaginable), one of the events was providing first aid to a "survivor" after a simulated car crash. This Troper was asked to talk to the patient to keep his mind occupied, but instead started talking about potatoes for a few minutes, causing the actor to break character. ** Similar with this ex-air cadet; when doing the exam bit of the First Aid course, we were doing fine except that, when we found he had an "open fracture", I immediatly and reflexively say "Ooh, that's not good", which is the ONE THING you don't do. Also, whilst we were fixing up the arm, he "fell unconcious" and we didn't stick him in the recovery position. If that were real, he could have choked on his own vomit and we wouldn't have known. * This Troper's pediatrician once lashed out at my mother because she just wanted to know if it was okay to feed Baby!troper skim milk. ** To be clear, it is not. Cow's milk lacks some essential nutrients for human babies, and has too much of others, which can lead to kidney damage. Skim milk is even worse, because babies can't grow properly if they don't get enough fat. * When this troper bashed his finger against a wall, his friend tried twisting it to make it better. As I type, I now have a broken finger. ** Why would ''twisting'' it make it better? ** [[WorstAid EXACTLY.]] ** I've been told that, should a finger be at an unnatural angle, snapping it back into place is a good idea. I refuse to try this until someone verifies the science behind such a painful move. * Back when this troper was in JROTC, one of her classmates was asked during a promotion board to list the first four things one should do

when offering first aid. His list included "apply a tourniquet". There was much joking about where to put it for a nosebleed (and IIRC he did not get promoted that go-round). * This troper had to give her uncle a rather stern lecture after her 3-year-old cousin began choking, and said uncle went straight to the Heimlich maneuver. In essence, small children do not need panicking adults crushing their diaphragm and cracking their ribs whenever it can be avoided. (Try getting them to cough, drink some water, or slapping their back first). * This troper had a coworker who burned himself and then tried to pour the nearest liquid on the burn. Unfortunately, he accidentally poured vegetable oil on it. (Room temp, fortunately) * Several stories.... ** One of this troper's classmates had some extreme pain in her back, and she thought it was a pulled muscle. So her roommate gave her a massage, only to accidentally make it ''worse''. Turns out, she had a kidney infection. (She didn't actually ''know'' this at the time) ** This troper's grandmother is a ''source'' for this. Of course, she didn't actually severely hurt anyone or kill people, but she still did cause additional discomfort. *** Before Grandma had children, she once got a paper cut and put hydrogen peroxide on it because she didn't have alcohol. **** What did you think was wrong with that? Hydrogen peroxide is a mild antiseptic, commonly used to disinfect minor cuts and scrapes, just as alcohol is. It's better to just wash with soap and water, but I have to give this point to grandma. *** Uncle has hemorrhoids. Guess what grandma suggests to use? Bengay. ''OUCH''. *** Again with the bengay, one of my uncles was like 8 and had a ''really'' itchy bugbite on his arm. Grandma tried to keep a close look on it, and tried to grab the anti-itch ointment without looking. Instead, she accidentally grabbed Bengay and put it on the bug bite. (After that, she made sure to separate it) *** Mom was like 6 years old. She had the Measles once, and Grandma came in and opened her window (Note that the window faced east and this was morning) because she thought some fresh air would help. Unfortunately she didn't know that Measles gives you sensitivity to sunlight. *** Grandpa once had a hangover, and grandma once again opened the window to give him some fresh air. (Once more, parents room also faced east) Although to give her credit, she thought it was just a bad morning headache and didn't realize until he got eye-raped that grandpa was hung over. *** Later on when the grandchildren came in, one of them had Diarrhea at her house and asked her for a tablet of Immodium. Grandma then gave her a pill, and it turned out to be a Laxative she had leftover from an old prescription. (She didn't have her glasses on at the time) * This Troper still has a scar on the inside of her arm because she thought ice would be good to put on a burn. Everything seemed fine until the next morning when the effort of getting out of bed caused her skin to peel off. ** I see the logic, but you've obviously found out why this isn't a

good idea: Ice sticks to/burns the skin if you hold it there directly. Ever stuck your tongue on an icy surface? Yeah, like that. It's why you normally cover ice-packs with cloths, so you don't hurt the skin. All you do for burns is hold them under a cold tap for a bit (obviously depends on how big the burn is and where it is). * This troper's friend got a nasty scrape after falling off his longboard, so he pours rubbing alcohol and aloe on it, and wipes it off with some toilet paper. His sore is now bubbly and yellow with bits of toilet paper stuck in it here and there. * When this Troper was doing a first-aid scenario with his Cadet unit, one budding helper lifted the legs of a person with symptoms of a spinal injury, because he thought she was in shock. It's just a good thing it wasn't real. * This troper got sick with a very itchy child disease in his young years, not so bad in itself, however said disease which name escapes me, causes one to be very very sensitive to sunlight... that and it will spread even more under said sunlight. Cue to this troper beeing covered head to toe in itchy bumps on the whole skin from said disease. And all thanks to this tropers mother who thought "The poor child should at least have some sun if it can't go out and play." * When my older brother and I were young children (twelve and eight years old, respectively), my brother heard the classic story of adrenaline giving people temporary SuperStrength. Being 12, he connected adrenaline to giving people ''other'' super powers, like a HealingFactor. Unfortunately, I had just started learning how to ride a bike, and my brother, upon seeing me scraped and bruised, decided that a shot of adrenaline was just the thing I needed. Cue TheGlomp. Ouch. * This might not count, but whilst learning first aid at cadets, we heard some [[GallowsHumour funny stories,]] one of them being this: At a cadet camp, our flight seargent was in the dinner que minding his own business when a girl (not from our squadren) came up to him and said "Sir, I've eaten a Snickers bar". He immedietly reacts with "Yes, and what's this got to do with me?" Her response? [[TooDumbToLive "I'm allergic to nuts."]] He managed to grab her epi pen and sort her out, but her reasoning as to why eating a Snickers bar wouldn't trigger a reaction was "But I took all the nuts out!" (completely forgetting about the nut traces that would still be there). ** Wow. Just...wow. It's great you saved her life, but some people would have let her die for DarwinAwards-level stupidity. * My mother is a fan of aromatherapy and the medicinal use of essential oils. One morning she woke up with an earache, and scrubbed undiluted frankincense oil into her ear canal with a cotton swab. The result: Lots of screaming and lots of crying. Because of her aversion to medical professionals, my uncle practically had to drag her to the doctor's office, where they somehow cleaned her ear out. ** To be fair, the adverse side effects of frankincense aren't very well-documented. But to this day, I still don't know what she was thinking. Frankincense is more commonly used as an antidepressant in oil burner. It's not usually applied to the skin. And besides, it's unsafe to use any essential oil without diluting it in some inert oil like olive or sweet almond first.

* This troper's younger brother experienced one merciful aversion and one wince-inducingly straight example in the space of a few minutes when he perched on a low wall, overbalanced (or was pushed; we never did get to the bottom of that) and broke his wrist. One of his friends volunteered to reset the bone, but fortunately my brother... dissuaded him. Then another friend's mother turned up, and did something that to this day I still don't understand: ** The best thing to do in this situation is to call your local emergency service number and ask for an ambulance, so that a medical professional can immobilise the suspected broken bone and provide some pain-relief before transporting them to hospital. (Eminently possible even ten years ago, I might add, given that there was a bank of payphones mere yards from where he fell.) If you can't get to a phone, the next best thing to do is transport the patient to the nearest emergency room yourself as expeditiously as possible. What this woman decided to do instead was drive my brother ''back to our house'' and get a second opinion on his diagnosis from our mother, inflicting a totally unnecessary extra twenty minutes of trying to prevent the splintered ends of his ''radius'' from bouncing off each other without painkillers. * A very lengthy discussion in this Troper's Mongolian class took place after we read ''Oyuun'' by Tomorbataar Enkhcholon. To summarize: woman is stabbed with knife supposedly coated in poison that will stop her breathing and knock her out. Protagonist realizes there's no way the villain had time to coat any more knives, as the tracks in the snowstorm that led them here are fresh; the mixing bowl for the poison is entirely full and every other knife on the table is uncoated. He, the woman and their mutual friend debate on pulling out the partially/possibly not poisoned knife out of her. The entire class ignored the grammar exercise we were supposed to be getting out of it and argue about this for the rest of the period. But while the characters were GenreSavvy about it, the class really, really wasn't. Favorite dumbass suggestions include: the suggestion Oyuun use his silk sash as a bandage after pulling it out, the suggestion Tsetseg ''walk through a snowstorm with a knife in her side'' to the nearest town (two miles away), the suggestion Tsetseg go outside as the cold would help keep her awake if there WAS poison, the typical suck out the poison suggestion, and the brilliant idea that Oyuun should taste the poison then lick the wound to tell if Tsetseg had been poisoned. I love my classmates, but they're never going to treat any injury I have. Ever. ** If any of these people were going into the medical profession, you'd be doing the internet a service by naming them here. * This troper got mad at his fellow rescuers when they were not actually giving breaths during a resuscitation, but instead only saying "breath, breath" as they did in practice. * [[Tropers/MJTrooper I once had]] a [[{{Squick}} pretty nasty]] infection in my left index finger (specifically, it was the right tip of my finger). When it got ''really'' swollen (to the point where it's about as wide as ''two'' index fingers), my mom decided to get a doctor to treat it. Unfortunately, the doctors (two in this case) decided to cut it open, '''without applying anything to numb the

pain'''. You can believe that I cried when that happened, and my mom got them to stop as they were cutting it. Later, we got a more competent doctor who used something to numb my finger while he cut it open. ---Go back to WorstAid, and edit it heavily if your carpel tunnel is flaring up. <<|TroperTales|>>

WorstNewsJudgmentEver * This troper once saw a headline that took up the entire front page of a newspaper about a celebrity dying her hair and how much of a "shock" it was. God forbid there would be more important news stories to get front page. * This troper's hometown's newspaper, regularly, now. Things that have appeared above the fold on the front page include a kitten-burning incident (though only a column wide); however, 2011's first Sunday paper had all but a single column of the front page taken up...by a picture of an owl. In front of the harvest moon. The article was the top ten pictures (presumably of those that ran in the paper) of 2010. Interesting, maybe, but ''front page'' material? For ''above'' the fold? * This troper's local paper once did a front-page article about a kid who liked trains and going to the train station. He didn't have autism or anything else that would differentiate him from the million other little kids who liked trains. What made it worse was that the train station had just been remodeled, but they chose to do the article on a random train-loving child instead of someone who was involved in the remodeling. * 20th August, 1991. 24 hours into a coup attempt in the USSR. The world's largest nuclear arsenal was possibly falling into the hands of men whose motivations nobody knew. I listened to a New York 24 hour news radio station to try to find out what was going on. No mention of it for a full half hour. Then, finally, "We now return to the days' top story ..." 'AT LAST!' I think "... Basements flooded in Long Island." AAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!! * [[Tropers/{{JBK405}} I]] was on the front page, above the fold, of my local paper for being first in line to purchase ''{{Halo 2}}'', complete with photograph right in the center of the page of me standing outside the doors to the store. '''Beneath''' the fold was an article about the US Marine assault on Fallujah. Admittedly it was a fun game, and I'm quite happy that I was potentially the first person on the East Coast to purchase the game, but even I, the person ''in the article'', thinks that's ridiculous. Oh, and they also misspelt the word "buy" in the article (They used "by" instead). * This troper's rural farming town newspaper once lead with the alarming headline of "Tractor Sales in a Slump." Okay, yes, there is an excuse to lead with that in a farming town. It means there's an

economical downturn in the region's primary industry, but I still maintain that there were better lead stories to go with for a September 12, 2001 issue of the paper. Just saying...

WorthIt * In a game of AD&D, this troper was being threatened by a vampire, and the party was in danger of being killed by a sorceress controlling a death knight. After a flash of inspiration, I managed to engineer a battle between the vampire and the death knight, which was later joined by a flesh golem. By the end of the battle, every building in town had had one of the three blown into it by another's attack, and subsequently caught fire. The entire village was basically destroyed and it was completely worth it. * [[@/{{Magus}} This troper]] once spent $35 at his school's "senior auction" to pie a particular senior in the face. It was worth it. * When [[@/{{Pinkbaron}} this troper]] was in junior high, she was running for class historian. One [[TheLibby incredibly slutty, popular girl]] had the brilliant idea to insult this troper and her friend during gym. [[BerserkButton Dumbass move on her part.]] This led to me putting said girl in a headlock and beating her over the head with a ping-pong paddle. I lost the election, was sent home early that day, and gained two weeks of in-school suspension. Many of her friends agreed that it was so damn worth it. * This troper took this to its logical extreme by messing with his IEP to be sent back to a school that he originally burned bridges with and hated the teacher. To do this he had his parents and school officials make obstructive bureaucrats do their rounds, cut red tape, and all around go through a fair amount of effort. Just so he could walk in and punch the teacher in the face! After he walked in with a smug look on his face and proceeded to do this he got chewed out upon leaving by his mom for his absolutely jerkass move. Don't feel bad, the teacher had it coming, really. (And goddamn yes it was worth it.) ** Okay, [[SchmuckBait I'll bite]]: What on earth had the teacher done? * This troper and one of her best friends isolated themselves from all of their dormmates at summer camp to [[{{ForScience}} play with science]]. We made homade bubble soap out of ** Water from our bedroom's faucet ** My travel shampoo ** Scented hand sanitizer ** My travel conditioner ** My friend's water bottle. ** To make a long story short, this didn't work, we crashed into each other while testing it out in our dorm room, slid all over the place because we had WATER on the CERAMIC floor of our dorm. But it was worth it because our other option was getting make overs! Getting our hair braided and curled and all that kind of stuff! Talking about somebody's camp crush! [[{{DeadpanSnarker}} Oh. JOY.]] ** We also got lost a lot around the camp. [[{{JustifiedTrope}} Well, it WAS on a college campus]]. Hence why we spent out quiet time near the mess hall. Sitting in a tree. We were often late for activities,

lunch, breakfast, and dinner, plus the team wars, but it was worth it. Camp was one of the most fun I've had EVER. * This troper once attended a music show where she acquired a wicked sunburn, a moderately serious case of dehydration, blisters on her feet and the kind of personal odour that is only acquired by dancing manically in a large crowd of other people at an outdoor venue in midJuly. (Her friend wouldn't sit beside her on the bus on the way home.) She regretted absolutely nothing, even when the next day she felt like she'd been run over by a truck and massaged with sandpaper. * This troper watched himself the entire series run and both movies of NeonGenesisEvangelion. They likely slanted his brain far towards a nihilistic point of view, along with the inherent MindScrew effects, but gave him enough new philosophical material to work over to last him decades, which he is truly thankful for. If you're into that sort of thing... * This troper enjoys the special executions of the Longshot (sniper) and Bultok pistol in [[GearsOfWar Gears of War 2]] so much that he'll risk certain death to finish off a downed enemy. When I'm inevitably killed during the execution, I usually exclaim a hearty "Worth it!" as I die. * In order to take a class that was essentially a three-week road trip through Canada, the Adirondacks, Vermont, and down to Martha's Vineyard, I had to take a second class (to qualify for financial aid) and give up any possibility of finding a summer job. During the trip, there was a history-making heat wave (10 hours north of Ottawa, midMay, over 100 degrees), a storm bad enough to frighten every last person in the van, and at least one episode of near-food poisoning. The second class was a dance class in an un-air-conditioned building during the hottest summer on record. And did I mention I'm asthmatic? On the other hand- three days in Quebec City, one in Montreal, one in Ottawa, two in Sudbury- ''where I got to swim in a meteor crater''two in Toronto (with a free day!), a hike in the Adirondacks, three days in Burlington, and two on Martha's Vineyard. Plus, taking the dance class meant crashing at my brother's place with his widescreen HDTV, multiple gaming systems, and unlimited cable. SO VERY WORTH IT. * Room I was in was being flooded by trolls in lower case. I yell out THE ROOM IS BEING FLOODED AND THE SPAMMERS ARE RUNNING AMOCK! The mod finally wakes up, they get banned, I simply get booted. My words upon immedatly renterring... "Totally worth it". Severalpeople smiled. ** Another time, I couldnt resist mocking a stuck up, narcistic asshole named "VyseTheLegend" using the name "VyseTheMoron" and taking the piss out of him in public. I get booted, and told if i come back in wit that name ill be temp banned. I do it anyway. Dude is less stuck up after. Totally worth it. * [[{{Zero44556}} Me]] and my friend's senior prank was to soap bomb the entire learning annex (A small compoud of four rooms with dividers to make them into eight), it was only ankle-deep, but the entire building was covered in it, we never got caught, but it cost us around $400 to get enough soap to pull it off, so worth it. * I have severe hay fever. A few years ago, I found out my favourite band were performing just 20 minutes from where I live. Considerng the closest they normally get to my home town is still pretty far, I

jumped at the chance of attending the concert. The catch? It was an outdoor concert and we'd be stood in a field. In the middle of summer. Surrounded by grass and trees. A hayfever sufferer's worst nightmare. I booked tickets anyway, and as there were no assigned seats I also got to the event location several hours early in true stalker-fangirl style, so I'd get a good view. So, that was several added hours on top of the concert time sat in a pollen-heavy field. My stalker-actions worked, and I was only 1 row away from the stage. I took my strongest medication, but as it eventually wore off, I felt like utter crap (And my red, puffed-up, streaming face showed it). When asked if I was okay as we left the concert venue I replied "So worth it". Before I start, be warned, I am a huge pervert. There was this amazingly sexy woman with incredibly tight low rise white pants who worked in a supermarket in the medicine aisle. I was semi-lost from my family when I saw her. She was bending over to pick up something and I almost hit a wall. Her ass was so close to me it looked irresistible. I could see some skin and even her white lacy panties. I just had to grab it. It felt soo good! She didn't seem to notice so I grabbed under her pants and felt her hot ass through her undies. Even more amazing!! Then I slapped it a few times before she finally noticed me! She asked what the hell I was doing and I told her the truth. I still almost got sent to the cops, but it was definitely worth it!! ---Go back to the main page. You'll have caught fire, been thrown in prison and forced to wear a chicken suit, but trust me, it'll be WorthIt ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WorthlessForeignDegree * This troper's dad, after getting a medical degree in India, had to get a new degree when he moved to America. End result? Almost 20 years of medical training before he could practice. Yet considering he's known as one of the best in the area, I can't say it hasn't worked out for him. * This troper knows a woman who was a dentist and periodontist (that's misspelled isn't it?) in Venezuela, moved to the Canada and now is an assistant. And she's constantly pointing out some of her equipment was BETTER in Venezuela than in Canada, and she knows much more hands on stuff than the actual dentists, though averted with another friend who moved to Canada with the company and is now getting paid more. ** this troper's aunt couldn't practice law in Australia. * This troper, an American pre-veterinary student who wants to attend the University of Glasgow for vet school, was told very firmly that unless she planned to move to the Isles, she should probably attend vet school in the States. Luckily for her, she ''does'' want to live in Britain. * At this troper's high school, one of the janitors was a respected oncologist before she immigrated. ** This troper calls shenanigans on that. If she was actually a respected oncologist, she'd have been able to reapply pretty easily.

* This Troper went to an absolutely amazing hole in the wall Vietnamese restaurant. Naturally, I spoke to the owner often. As it turns out, he was an aerospace engineer back in Vietnam. * This troper's girlfriend's father was a biologist in Cuba during the 1950s. He now works at Wal-Mart. * Family friend has her Masters in Philosophy from India and was a certified teacher as well. Here in the US, she works at a preschool. ** Which puts her two steps up from americans with a masters in Philosophy. ** Could be her degree is MPhil, which in Commonwealth countries doesn't imply actual study of philosophy; it's an Arts or Humanities masters by research, as distinct from a one-year 'taught' MA or MSt. Much like PhD is 'Doctor of Philosophy' but just means 'Doctor of something that didn't have its own doctorate 100 years ago' i.e. nearly everything other than Divinity, Music, Letters, Law or Medecine. * [[RandomSurfer This Troper]] was beaten out of a MajorLawFirm Document Clerk position (which is about 2-3 levels below paralegal) by someone who was a lawyer in his home country (somewhere in Africa IIRC). * This Troper's driving instructor was a lawyer with a [=PhD=] degree in India * This Troper knows an underpayed cook who used to be a physics professor in Iran. * This Troper was doing his final exam to be allowed to Universities with some peeps from Russia who had to do it again because it wasn't worth anything in Germany. * Aversion: one of This Troper's professors noted that back in [[AcceptableCulturalTargets his native Iran]], his two American-earned doctorates (engineering and computer science) and multiple master's degrees probably ''over''qualifies him to be, say, Secretary of Health (a completely unrelated field) in its (impenetrably byzantine, occasionally simoniacal/nepotistic) governmental system. * Inverted by someone I know of who got his "fake" Cambridge MA in order to have a more impressive CV when working abroad. (Briefly, though they do offer "normal" Master's degrees, Oxford and Cambridge (for historical reasons) also award an automatic MA to BA graduates after 7 years; you just have to turn up to collect it. Organisations in the UK are generally aware that these don't imply any postgraduate work, it's less well-known elsewhere). * A janitor in [[DialgaX this Troper's]] elementary school was reputed to have a [=PhD=] in chemistry. He was a Russian immigrant. * As a Mexican who wants to leave the country, this trope is pure [[NightmareFuel nightmare fuel to me]]; the fact that all the efforts I made to became a professional could be completly useless is something that doesn't let me sleep (on the other hand, I would love to have a reason to attend to the school again, and this time in a foreign country, something I always dreamed of but I never could accomplish, so...I guess I'm trying to see the bright side here) * Can happen for Brazilian students that want to study Medicine in other Latin America countries (where it's easier to be accepted into an university).

* This troper took a certification course in teaching English as a second language. She had just completed her BA in philosophy and creative writing from a Canadian university. The fact that many of her foreign-born classmates had much greater qualifications than she did (a PhD in psychology from Iran; a Singaporean with multiple Masters'; not to speak of the classmates who already had years of teaching experience but not this particular certification) was not what was so astonishing; it was when she went to do her practicum in college-prep English and found herself ''teaching'' engineers and lawyers twice her age, so they could go to a Canadian university, to get re-certified for things some of them had been doing for a decade or more. * This troper's German cousin has one degree from Israel, and one from some weird african country. The Israeli one isn't THAT worthless, but the other one... Well, now she decided to move to Laos. * My mother has a master's degree in engineering. Because she doesn't speak very good English, she is working as an accountant and not making very much per year. * When this Canadian troper was working in another town as part of a municipal internship program, the Town Engineer was born and educated in Pakistan. He was a really nice guy, but when the new management came in he was canned because his Pakistani engineering degree apparently didn't qualify him for the engineering work the town needed. It ended on a more positive note, though, as when the engineer came back to receive his final severance he told me that he'd probably be able to get a job with one of the private construction firms his friends worked for. * SparklingAngel here! This is currently happening to one of my teachers. His degrees are from...CUC I believe, and not a BC college. So now he has to get a online degree. Joy. The poor guy teachs, tutors and has two kids. Give the man a break, wouldja?! * This troper seems to have one of these. She has a double major university degree, and is working in another country, and is currently in charge of doing laundry. The highest ranked employee (under management) at her place of work did not complete the sixth grade. It is very much so an experience rewards system. I actually do love my job, wouldn't trade it for the world, and have zero desire to leave. * This troper and his chronically ill friend have noticed a trend both in inner city hospitals and in psychiatric and medical services financed by the state. They're probably not financially lucrative and are fairly soul-killing environments, especially when compared to the cozy private practices, so the worst practitioners tend to wash up there ... and/or the most foreign. In his area there's a ridiculously high percentage of foreign-born people working in hospitals and in state services, way out of proportion with the local community. He once looked through the phone book at the private practitioners, however, and found nothing but European surnames and American given names (and one Indian). * This troper has a friend whose family immigrated from Kazakhstan. The mother was an army engineer in the Soviet Union, here she works as a janitor. * When [[DeltaOne this troper]] was in South Africa, he knew a bunch of immigrants from the DRC - a veterinary surgeon, two industrial

chemists and two lawyers. They were all employed as security guards on minimum wage. * This troper's workplace used to employ a janitor who had been a physicist back in Lebanon. One of our current janitors is also a physicist, but from Lithuania. * This troper was told that her certificates for passing the violin tests she gets each year are valid in all countries...except Japan. <<|TroperTales|>>

WouldNotShootACivilian * Averted by this troper. During a training video game on his ROTC's virtual range this troper was the first to open fire, and he shot an old lady. When asked about it he replied, "I saw a weird bump in her burkha." * This troper's father once told me a story about his days in the US Navy during the Vietnam War era. He was stationed for awhile in Scotland, and there was a protest against the US keeping nuclear weapons in the UK. My father was one of the troops on guard duty by the docks at the time of the protest, and he and several others were ordered by an inexperienced officer to either remove safeties from their weapons or make them ready to fire, just in case. (He told me about 12 years ago, and the exact terminology is hazy now). My father and the others quickly envisioned a nightmare scenario of a gun going off accidentally, turning the protest into a full blown riot and that (combined with the fact that this took place shortly after [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings the infamous Kent State shootings]]) led them to refuse to do so. A later inquest on the matter ruled in their favor. * This troper restarted his ''AssassinsCreed'' playthrough almost every time he accidentally killed someone that wasn't a guard or a Templar.

WrenchWench * This troper is one. Given she owns [[TheAllegedCar the Alleged Scooter Bike]], she had a little choice: become one or enjoy an immobile piece of plastic and metal junk in her backyard. Now she has to [[TechnoBabble replace that damn cylinder head and put a gasket between the cylinder and the muffler]] to make that piece of crap running perfectly again... * One of these works at my local motorcycle shop. I have to stop myself from spending every waking minute there, otherwise I'd never get anything done. * This troper has noticed a fair few pretty ladies in the running department (drivers, firemen and cleaners) of the preserved railway he works at, despite the fact that nothing on earth gets you dirtier than cleaning a steam engine, and despite having what a friend called a "Steam Train Fetish" ** I don't, honest! It's purely a platonic thing. ** Where is this place? It sounds like heaven to me. * This troper's sister is one. This is unsurprising, since she's

pretty much a brunette Winry Rockbell. * This troper does theatre tech. She got to confuse the boys at her church by knowing what a Leatherman was (since she's been ogling them online for a couple years now). ** She's been ogling [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Leatherman what?]] *** Leatherman is the name of a company [[BrandNameTakeover mostly known for creating multi-tools]]. They're like the American version of Swiss Army Knives. ** Is it wrong that I interpreted that as "ogling the boys from church online for a couple years now"? * This troper has a friend who looks REALLY cute with a wrench and goggles. Then again, she's pretty much a gnome. ** She has a beard? * This troper is one. The topper on her Christmas list? A HelloKitty chainsaw. It even has gold lettering that says LOVE on the blade. Precious. ** No effing way! Where do I get that?! * One of this troper's friends definitely qualifies, given that she builds bicycles from scrap parts and spends a good deal of time repairing her [[TheAllegedCar alleged truck]]. This troper herself isn't one most of the time, but she has her moments. Mostly in the theatre. Putting up and painting sets and hanging lights is ''fun''. * This troper's current girlfriend's sister is one. After coming out as gay to her dad, he decided that if she wasn't going to have a man in her life, she was going to need to know how to fix stuff herself. He's a heavy duty mechanic who owns a trucking business. She demasculates me in all things mechanical and outdoes her sister in a dress and make-up. I really hope my girlfriend isn't a Troper... * Does carpentry count? [[Tropers/MegTheMaggot I'm]] reasonably competent with mechanics (mostly bike repair), but I'm pretty good at woodworking, if I say so myself. Helps that my dad is a carpenter, and I grew up around it. * Most of the ladies in my family are this trope. My [[CoolOldLady grandma]], who looks like a perfectly dignified lady(especially when she's wearing her MinkCoat)is often seen with a wrench and a hammer. My aunt and me are both tomboys, though the geeky kind, and we both love woodworking(and are pretty good at it). Even though my mum is the Girly Girl to my aunt's tomboy, she won't let my dad fix stuff in our house. And my [[ButchLesbian aunt's wife]], who has worked as a carpenter, car repairer and is currently a stonemason, probably beats us all. * My ex-girlfriend is a gorgeous, BuxomIsBetter Army mechanic, constantly covered with grease and dirt smears after work, regularly drops {{ClusterFBomb}}s, and can keep up with most male Infantry soldiers when it comes to ball-busting. Pretty incredible, while it lasted. - {{Tropers/Martello}} ** I officially declare myself full of envy. *** You shouldn't be - it's over now. Luckily, post-deployment leave and the women of Tel Aviv await. - {{Tropers/Martello}} * This troper is a lighting techie for her school theater organization and is never without her 8 inch crescent wrench in her backpack (and

will use it if you get in her way) * One of [[Tropers/{{Smerf}} my]] female friends in high school took auto shop for 3 years, then became a mechanic in the Army. ** My niece may also turn into one, what with having my brother as her dad. One of her first toys was a toy chainsaw. * This troper's ex/BFF is the cutest 5'6 girl you'd ever see; bouncy, full of energy and adorable one-liners, and best friends with everyone, including people she's just met. She's also been taught how to repair cars ever since she was 5 and is a better mechanic than this troper could ever be. * This troper is known for being the resident MacGyver at her workplace. When things break, she is summoned. The workplace being what it is (a store that sells handcrafts from around the world), she doesn't use a wrench so much as she uses things like glue, sandpaper, jewelry pliers, and twine - but her success rate of repairs is around 98%. Her coworkers will sometimes bring things in that they break at ''home'' for her to fix. And because she's a ''FullmetalAlchemist'' fan, she took a cue from Winry and purchased a magnifying visor to help her see what she's doing more clearly...the apparatus is known throughout the store staff as, simply, "the Rockbell." ---Go back to WrenchWench, and... please stop ogling me and hand me that crescent wrench. ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WriteBackToTheFuture * If you are reading this the plan worked.\\ Follow the instructions precisely, your life depends on this.\\ Look under the 8th floorboard against the wall nearest the door.\\ You should find in there $250 from between 1946 and 1960.\\ I have also enclosed a list of eighteen locations where you will find a key.\\ Further Instructions SDB 140, Bank of America in Providence, Rhode Island.\\ Watch out for the purple cat. ---* This troper managed to pull this off at work. At one point several months ago, one of my store's clay lawn figurines was broken in half. It was my job to repair it and put it back on the shelf at a discount. Before I did so, I noticed that the figurine was hollow, so I took the opportunity to confuse some future customer: ** ''Thank you! Your are both a scholar and a saint! Though it's been years, you have solved the riddles necessary to unearth this gravest of tidings. But alas, the task is only half complete, and we have precious little time. I can only pray that the iguana has chosen wisely, for the fate of the world...nay, the universe, now rests upon your shoulders. If the date is before August 16, 2014, then you must go to the [=McDonald's=] on the corner of 2nd and Main. Go through the

drive-thru and order your normal meal. Tell the speaker, "[[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]] sent me", and instead of a receipt, the clerk will give you a map and a telephone number. Dial this number and you will receive further instructions. If the above-mentioned date has passed, then the end is upon us and you must fend for yourself; perhaps with this forewarning you and your loved ones may yet survive what is to come. Godspeed!'' *** Now that would just make you a JerkAss except that is awesome! **** That's called a MagnificentBastard here. ***** This Troper would have put a date that had only just passed. *** I'm not the only one who would follow those instructions, y'know, just in case. Right...? **** Dude, I totally would as well. * This troper plans on burying a time capsule (and letting folks know about it) set to be dug up some long time span later (hopefully I'm dead by then). Inside it's only going to contain a bottled water and a note reading ''Thought you could use this after all that digging.'' ** Oh, gross, that got all manky from sitting in a bottle underground for some eighty-odd years. In case the future's not immutable, send Pepsi Free, that's nice and full of preservatives. Or wait for Brawndo to come out if Pepsi Free's not around any more, it's got electrolytes, perfect after a full ''eight smirking deciunits'' of digging. Shaka ne, past man, and may your ancestors all have had kids! * [[JesseCS This troper]] was actually clever at one point, and wrote a note at age 8 then put it in a drawer under a bed at his grandma's house. Then yesterday (11 years later) I was helping pull up the carpet in that room. We had to move the bed, and under the bed was said note, which just said one thing: "You look old. ~ 8-year-old you." * I was just assigned the daunting task of cleaning up my old bedroom at my dad's house, which contained 15 year old Mad Magazines and posters for MortalKombat on the walls. Among the debris was a note, and a cassette tape wrapped in alluminum foil. The note was from myself, aged seven. It said that I had swiped the tape from my cousin and should destroy it for "the fate of the unaverce". It was a New Kids on the Block album. I e-mailed my cousin to ask if she wanted it back, then burned the thing when she replied in the negative. I'm pretty sure I stole it because she just wouldn't stop playing the thing. * [[{{randomfanboy}} This troper]] with a terrible memory (especially for things outside the routine that I have to do) does this all the time. What's most frustrating is that I'll usually remember anything I set an alarm for anyway. * In middle school, this troper's teacher had the whole class write a letter to our future selves. I think she probably has forgotten that she needs to send it back at some point, but if I ever get it back, I will not read it. I don't remember exactly what I wrote, but I do remember that it was horribly stupid. It will go in the paper shredder without even leaving the envelope. * Averted for RadioactiveZombie. He ''has'' made some time capsules, all of them as part of a school project, to hide somewhere. Him moving twice makes them GoneForever, I guess.

* This troper's boss at a summer job had a gamebook that came with an extremely hard-to-open puzzle box, where, by following the story in the book, you were finding the only combination that could open the box to save the "treasure" inside from the book's BigBad. This troper was the first to open it, so she changed the combination and left a note in the back of the book saying "Don't worry, the treasure's safe for now, but just in case (BigBad) comes looking for it, I've changed the combo and left some new riddles to give you the answer. You are now the guardian of this treasure box." * The only real way to make this work is to combine it with a time travel TrustPassword, and send it to a known party, not some random guy. * This troper has a metal locker in her room for some reason. A few months ago she was going through a tough time with her best friend. She was cleaning her room and found the key to the locker. She opened the locker to find two pieces of strawberry-flavored hard candy and a note. The note turned out to be a letter she had written to a different- best friend two or three years before, saying that she wanted to cut off the friendship before it got any worse. The scary thing was that the note was so ambiguous and poetic that it perfectly described the situation she was in at the moment with the current best friend. * I plan on burying my diaries in a time capsule somewhere, to be recovered in the future. I also recently found a note from 10 year old me that I had hidden for me to find in the future. * This troper recently recieved a letter from his 5th-grade self. Turns out that troper-to-be had to write a letter to the future as a school assignment. It was a weird letter. * Would hiding a five pound note in a compartment of your wallet before a night out count, the idea being that your drunken self will forget it's in there and then you'll still have money left over in the morning? ---* Check the floorboard. After that, [[WriteBackToTheFuture click this link. You're welcome. -You]] ---<<|TroperTales|>>

WriterRevolt * This troper was once given a school assignment where I was supposed to create an "final scene" for [[HenrikIbsen Henrik Ibsen's]] prowomen's rights play ''A Doll's House''. Fanfiction, basically. I wasn't terribly interested in the assignment, so ''my'' ending to the play takes place in a post-apocalyptic future where Nora (the character who leaves her husband in the play) has become an ironfisted dictator "kept alive through a combination of black magic and superscience", for no readily apparent reason. Her husband from the play, frozen in a block of ice for two hundred years, is the one prophesized to bring about her downfall, and is terribly confused about the whole ordeal. There are also two side characters who deliver

exposition, whom I dutifuly named "Character A" and "Character B". I got an A. ---Go back to WriterRevolt. ----

WritersCannotDoMath * Urgh, so true for [[Tropers/DRoy this troper]]. Which becomes a problem especially if you are going to use a lot of scientific elements and obssessed with details... * I consider myself a writer and my math grades are extremely low. * Averting this trope is the exact reason why this troper has a calculator by his writing station/a character biography for every character he has that works back to at least the birth year of the grandparents of the character in question.

WriteWhoYouKnow * So far, Tropers/RadioactiveZombie has three main projects that are ''incredibly'' guilty of this - only one or two characters are original, the rest are people he's played with or his characters from those games. For example, his ''Shadowrun'' story is composed of every person he's played with on two major ''Shadowrun'' [=MUDs=], and the only semi-original people are Jake Armitage, an SR character from the SNES game, and Kitsune, another character from said game. ** The other one is a ZombieApocalypse story. Pretty much everyone from the [=MMOs=] ''Urban Dead'' and ''Dead Frontier'' he's worked with (hell, hasn't even played with). The only ones who aren't from those two games? The main character, another major character's halfbrother (A [[MetalGearSolid Liquid Snake]] Expy), Michael Bay, his two best friends from Sophomore year, a guy who looks suspiciously similar to Drew Carey, and [[AuthorAvatar himself, who is the]] ButtMonkey. *** The third is a {{deconstruction}} of [=JRPGs=]. [[TooMuchInformation People from Gaia and fantasy MUDs are involved.]] * In what I'm currently working on, there are three main characters, none of whom are me, although they all have a couple of aspects of myself in them. They all somehow got my snarkiness. * Weird, semi-prophetic example with [[Tropers/GwenStacyWannabe this troper]]: I started writing a story a couple of years ago, before I met my now-best male friend. I tell the story from the [=POV=] of two characters: a girl and a guy. The girl is...well, not ''exactly'' a self-insert of me, but similar. The guy is dark-haired, friendly, funny, something of a prankster, and [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend totally adores his best friend]] (the girl). Okay, now here's the weird part: my best friend is eerily similar to the male character, and I didn't even ''meet'' him until after I had a good chunk of the story written! Those similarities [[UnfortunateImplications aren't really helping]] [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend our reputation]] either, especially since I intended from day 1 to have the characters end up together.