Flange leakag: PEQ: allowable stress - Intergraph CADWorx & Analysis

tested to 1.5 x design pressure and it has therefore been a

practise among many large Engineering Companies to allow the
total equivalent pressure including external bending moments and
axial forces to reach a level of 1.5 times the rated flange pressure
at temperature.
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In brackets, the two methods you mentioned do not predict stress

in flange, so in fact we cannot say "results with so much of
variation" because we haven't a common reference. But, of
course, I understand what are you referring to.

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Re: Flange leakag: PEQ: allowable stress
[Re: #60566 - 09/24/14 02:41 PM
waterguy]
dclarkfive

The Peq method, especially if you are not applying any additional
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factor on the allowable, is known to be very conservative. NC-
3658.3 method on the other hand in my opinion is
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unconservative, for some situations it will tell you the flange is

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fine at a bending moment that has yielded the pipe. I am not
Loc: Calgary, surprised you have found an instance where the results from the
Alberta, 2 methods are out by a factor of 10. If using NC-3658.3, I would
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only accept the flange if the result was less than 30% of
allowable. Otherwise I would go to the more detailed flange stress
/ leakage calculations within Caesar.

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Re: Flange leakag: PEQ: allowable stress
[Re: #60575 - 09/25/14 07:19 AM
waterguy]

mariog

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Dave,
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Do you mean that NC-3658.3 qualified the flange but piping

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adjacent to flange is yielded (Sy status)?
Loc: Romania And is the rule "30% of allowable of NC-3658.3" validated by
other method more accurate (as FEA)?

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Re: Flange leakag: PEQ: allowable stress
[Re: #60640 - 10/02/14 01:07 PM
waterguy]
dclarkfive

Yes, there are flanges / pressures / bending moment
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combinations that will pass NC 3658.3, but the bending moment
is high enough to cause yielding in the adjacent pipe.
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The 30% of NC-3658.3 just roughly gets the allowable bending
Loc: Calgary, moment down to a point where flanges pass Caesar's ASME Sec
Alberta, VIII flange stress and leakage calculations.
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Re: Flange leakag: PEQ: allowable stress
[Re: #60643 - 10/03/14 01:47 AM
waterguy]

mariog

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Thank you for your feedback.
About the method; I think it is useful to study the original work,
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which can be downloaded at

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www.ornl.gov/info/reports/1976/3445600189702.pdf
Loc: Romania In fact, Mr. Rodabaugh (in B31.3 2012 list of B31 MECHANICAL
DESIGN TECHNICAL COMMITTEE appears to be still active as
Honorary Member, Consultant) applied there a "new" method to
calculate stress in flanges, which is correct in my opinion.

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Re: Flange leakag: PEQ: allowable stress
[Re: #62185 - 02/24/15 08:56 AM
waterguy]
Oluwachidi

Thank you all guys. Your questions and feedbacks have just
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helped me to resolve some flange leakage problems...
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Loc: Angola
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