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To: balajik@bheledn.co.in; Praveen Kumar R; ABHILASH REDDY M
Cc: V Seshadri; MANOHARAN T; GITESH DAS
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: 9661-405-PVE-B-004-00CATII Rvwd
Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 4:26:13 PM
Attachments: 9661-405-PVE-B-004-01 VCBdrg.pdf
Reply to comments in transmittal for VCB drgs.docx
Our reply to NTPC comments on Rev.00 of VCB drgs. for Singareni
project is as given below:
1)Comment: Please put NTPC Drawing no. on each sheet of this drawing
BHEL reply: Agreed. Comment incorporated in the revised drg. attached.
PMC to forward the replies along with the revised drawing for Cat-I
approval.
L.Subbalakshmi
Sr.Mgr(TE)
Digitally signed
Signature Not
by PVerified
R SEN
Date: 2014.02.11
10:08:41 IST
Reason: CAT I
Location:
NTPCEOC
Reply to NTPC comments in transmittal Ref.: CW-EN405:7477 dtd.20.01.14 on VCB drgs. Rev.00 for
Singareni 2x600MW
COMMENTS: BHEL may please clarify the reason for not providing Differential protection CT. BHEL
may please note that Differential relays are required for Transformer ratings > 5000 KVA.
BHEL reply:
a)The VCB drgs. submitted in NTPC drg. No. 9661-405-PVE-B-00 are pertaining to VFD output
breaker connecting to motor. Hence, transformer differential protection is not envisaged in these
VCBs.
b)Also, Attenuated line to neutral voltages Va, Vb, Vc from both VFD Input side(from VFD
transformer secondary) and VFD Output side(motor voltages) are brought to the Control electronics
in the VFD.
1. VFD has inbuilt ground fault detection circuit which sums these voltages Va, Vb and Vc. The
ground fault circuit operates on the principle that when all the 3 voltages are balanced,
their summation will be zero. Any unbalance in any of the 3 voltages will cause an error to
be detected and ground fault noted by the system processor. This circuit will detect ground
fault anywhere in the line-up between the transformer output upto the motor. A small
write-up on the same is attached.
Acrobat Document
2. Attenuated line to neutral voltages as mentioned in Sl.no.1 above are combined to produce
line-to-line voltages for both source and load side converters. These line-to-line voltages are
used in the synchronization of the phase locked loop(PLL) for the firing control of both
source and load converters.
Any unbalance in the transformer will result in disturbance in the line voltage and shall be
annunciated as PLL fault which will result in tripping of the VFD. The VFD control electronics
is very sensitive to the disturbance in line voltage and sensing of the PLL fault is more
accurate than sensing through differential protection relay.
Based on the explanation given in a and b above, differential protection CT is therefore not
required for VFD transformer and hence differential protection relay is not required in the HT
switchgear feeding the VFD transformer. This is in line with the several VFD
transformers supplied by BHEL for various power plants and same
are working satisfactorily at all sites.
I]{VERTER
LOADCOMMUTATED BHEL
3-27
NTPC DRG. NO.
9661-405-PVE-
B-004, Rev. 01
NTPC DRG. NO.
9661-405-PVE-
B-004, Rev. 01
NTPC DRG. NO.
9661-405-PVE-
B-004, Rev. 01
NTPC DRG. NO.
9661-405-PVE-
B-004, Rev. 01
NTPC DRG. NO.
9661-405-PVE-
B-004, Rev. 01
FIRST ANGLE PROJECTION ( ALL DIMENSIONS ARE IN mm )
35210079454 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
DRAWING NO.
A A
B B
C C
REF. DRG. NO.
D D
B-004, Rev. 01
CHECKED
02 12.12.13 CHECKED 01 CHECKED Sd/- VFD SWITCH GEAR (2X600 MW)
6/12/13 CODE
BHOPAL (M.P)
APPROVED APPROVED APPROVED Sd/- 409 SCCL SINGARENI (THOUGH BHEL EDN BANGALORE)
ZONE ZONE ZONE NAME SIGN DATE NO. OF TITLE DRAWING NO. REV
DRAWING REVISED IN LINE DRN. ANAND Sd/- 11/11/13
SCHEMATIC DRAWING FOR
VAR
WITH EDN's MAIL DTD.11.12.13
CKD. MS Sd/- 11/11/13 MODULE IND 35210079454 02
APPD. P.K.U. Sd/- 11/11/13 TITLE SHEET SHT. NO. 01 NO OF SHEETS 14
FIRST ANGLE PROJECTION ( ALL DIMENSIONS ARE IN mm )
35210079454 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
DRAWING NO.
A
11KV, 3 PHASE, 50 Hz BUS, 1250A A
R
Y
B
( SCALE:0-6000V)
1 PHASE 2 POLE PT
PT1
MOUNTED IN 524 EXT. CH. 1 2
OF BBCT PANEL
VCB
FSBR1 FSBY1
B 1250A B
X1
BUS 1 2
IL33
VOLTAGE VSS
AMBER
X2 LIVE
R Y B
BUSBAR CABLE (MOUNTED ON BBCT
TB1 TB1
TERMINATION PANEL REAR TOP COVER) PT
75 77
PANEL (BBCT) SKT TB2 18 FSBR
E10C E10C 1 2
TB1 TB1 29 2A
29
76 78 SKT TB2 19 FSBY
3 PHASE PT E30C E30C 1 2
30 30 2A
RATIO-11000/110V
SKT E50C TB2 20 E50C 1
FSBB
2
OUTPUT-100VA
31 31 2A
C CL-1.0 C
SKT E70 TB2 21
32 32
TB2 22 E90
ET 1
REF. DRG. NO.
D D
PT CIRCUIT
FROM SHEET-03
A A
50
TAG : 50
P1 2S1 C11 TB2 1 C11 5 6
CT1R
2S2 C31 7 8
CT1B
2S2
C10 TB2 4
C30 TB2 5
C C
C50 TB2 6
D D
SIGN & DATE
A A
FROM SHEET-04
HRC FUSE1
6.6KV,25A
B B
HRC FUSE 2
6.6KV,25A
HRC FUSE3
6.6KV,25A
C C
D D
4 5 1 2
H1A
H2A
J1A
J2A
1
2
B B
2
SS2 OFF
ON
SS1 OFF
ON
B
A
J1
J2
B
A
H2
H1
C C
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
16A
16A
16A
2A
6A
2A
6A
1
6A
6A
LKBM
FSAF2
FSAF1
FSAK1
FSBL2
FSAK2
FSBL1
FSZ2
FSBM
FSZ1
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
K11
K12
M1
M2
H3
H4
K1
K2
L1
L2
09/E1
08/D1
08/A1
09/A7
09/E7
09/A3
09/E3
07/F2
09/A1
07/A2
K12
H4
K11
M1
M2
K1
K2
H3
L1
L2
REF. DRG. NO.
TO CLOSING CKT. TO TRIPPING CKT. TO SPRING CHARGING TO INDICATION CKT. TO HEATER, ILLUMINATION
D & SOCKET CKT
D
MOTOR CKT
DC DISTRIBUTION AC DISTRIBUTION
SIGN & DATE
75SA 75TA
A A
*07-B7 *07-A7 TAG : 75TA
4 4
95X
K13
08-B7
B B
CLOSING INTERLOCK
FROM LCI C & E PANEL TAG : 75SB
TB1 K17 TB1 SL TB1
14 13 12
K17
CLOSE COMMAND FROM
LCI C & E PANEL
21
SKT TAG : 75TB
*07-B7
21
K17
C C
1
11
94
52a
*07-D4 7 *07-D4
K19 2
3
23
52b
K25
*07-D3
24
K21
13 94
*07-D4 2
REF. DRG. NO.
33SCD
D D
14
K23
C1
52CC
C2
24
SKT
SIGN & DATE
TAG : 95A
A K1 K1 A
*06-D2 TB3
TRIPPING COMMAND
24 K1 15 16 6
FUTURE USE
FUTURE USE
1 1 1
3 19 11
95A A
LS-1 LS-2 LS-3
50 95A 12
*08-B3 *08-B3 *08-B3
*08-A7 2 2 2
4
20 TB1 TB1 TB1
18 17 10
TAG : 30LS
K45
K3
B K3A B
7
TB3 TB3
2 3
K3A
SKT SKT
95A
7
9
18
K43
95A
K45
B
K41
10
3 *08-A7
K31
52a
*07-D4 TB3
4
4 TAG : 30
K31
C
K7
52b
21 22 SKT 17
C 8 8 C
T1
1 1 52TC
9
95X 30LS T2
6 K2
2
2
SKT
30 6
K2
TB1
65 TAG : 95X
SL
REF. DRG. NO.
10
D TB1 D
66
K2 K2
*06-D2
SIGN & DATE
A A
M1 TB3 M1
25
*06-D3 18
H3 H3 L1 L1
*06-D5 *06-D4
SKT
TB3 TB3
25
HEATER 1
11 12 21
L1
L1
S 33SCA
9
5A 2 11 22
H5
SKT
TB3 30LS
*08-B7 7
9
5
H5
3
B B
5 6 11 1 TB1
7
13 1 3 5
1 1 1 CON
VAA13 50
TH DS 52a 52b 33SCC 30 95X 75SA 75TA
2 FUTURE USE A1
33SP
*07-B7 *07-A7
2 2 6 14 2
7 7 3
8
CON 2 4 6
L15
TB1
L13
11
10
12
51 A2
H13
H7
11
10
1
12
L3
L5
L11
L7
L17
L15
1 3 5
L13
95
TB3 TB3
L9
TB3 TB3 TB3 THOL
6 7 2
13 14 15 THOL
3 2 4 6
C 5
L19 96 C
1
L3
L5
L7
4
1 1 1
X1 X1 M
X1
1 X1 X1 X1 X1 X1 X1
H1 H2 H3 22
75W 75W 75W
PIL IL31 IL1 IL2 IL3 IL4 IL5 IL6 IL7 IL32
240VAC 240VAC 240VAC 1 2
BREAKER
2
BUS BAR
2 CT
2
X2 X2 X2 X2
33SCB
2 X2 X2 X2 X2
X2
H4
H4
26
SKT
H4 H4 L2 L2
REF. DRG. NO.
06/D6 *06-D4
D D
26
M2 TB3 M2
*06-D3 19
SIGN & DATE
K105
14
17
13
15
11
5
9
5 2 11 4 14 1 10 6
52a SKT
52b 52a 52b 52a 52b
14
A *07-B7
30 30 30 50 95X A
K105
18
14
6
10
16
12
3 15 2 14
1
2
19
1
17
18
20
22
23
27
28
19
O48
O49
O50
O47
045
046
SKT SKT SKT SKT SKT SKT SKT SKT SKT SKT SKT 52a
K107
K109
SKT
K103
20
K101
17
18
20
22
23
27
28
2
19
1
13
SKT
O10
O11
O12
O1
O3
O4
O5
O6
O7
O8
O9
13
53 52 25 26 27 28 29 30
K101
TB1 TB1
TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1
58 59
44 45 46 47 48 49 67 68 71 72 73 74
B B
3 1 7 5 3 1 7 5 3 1 7 5
52cdA 52cdA 52cdA 52cdA 52cdB 52cdB 52cdB 52cdB 52cdC 52cdC 52cdC 52cdC
2 6 2 6 4 2 8 6
O36
4 8 4 8
O30
O32
O34
O31
O29
O33
O28
O35
O24
O27
O23
O22
O26
O18
O21
O20
O25
O17
O14
O19
O15
O16
O13
C TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 C
28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
12 3 3 1 1 3
12 13 14
30LS 30LS 30LS
*08-B7 *08-B7 *08-B7 95X 95A 75SB 75SB 75TB 75TB
8 9
10 *08-A7 4 *07-B7 4 *07-B7 2 *07-C7 2 *07-C7 4
6
REF. DRG. NO.
4 5
K119
K121
8 4
O44
O43
O42
O40
O39
O41
L27
L29
L31
L25
O38
O37
D D
K111
K113
K115
K117
TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB2 TB2 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB1 TB2 TB2 TB2 TB2 TB2 TB2 TB1 TB1
55 54 57 56 37 38 62 61 64 63 39 40 41 42 43 44 69 70
SIGN & DATE
A A
760.0000 820.0000
B B
50
95 30
805.0000 776
C A V C
AS VSS
59.5000
40.0000
89.5000
REF. DRG. NO.
D D
REV. DATE ALTERED REV. DATE ALTERED REV. DATE ALTERED DEPT. 11 KV INDOOR METAL CLAD SWGR TYPE-VM12(FOR 4.1 KV LCI)
E SWE BHARAT HEAVY ELECTRICALS LTD.
INVENTORY NO.
A A
B B
C C
REF. DRG. NO.
D D
SIGN & DATE
A A
B B
C C
REF. DRG. NO.
D D
SIGN & DATE
10) WHETHER OPERATION & MAINTENANCE MANUAL : ALREADY SENT AT ENQUIRY STAGE.
& CATALOG ENCLOSED.
14) CLOSING COLI VOLTAGE, CURRENT & TIME : 220V DC, 1A APPROX., 100 ms.(max.)
15) TRIPPING COIL VOLTAGE, CURRENT & TIME : 220V DC, 1A APPROX., 80 ms.(max.)
Prepared by : Approved by :
(Manisha Hada) (Shri P.K. Upadhyay)
Sr. Manager DGM