Nazis tried to turn sand in to gold

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Von Schadewald

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Nazis tried to turn sand in to gold

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Post by Von Schadewald » 21 Jul 2010, 05:56

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... achau.html

Nazi chiefs believed they could turn stones, sand and soil into gold, according to a new book.

Heinrich Himmler, head of Hitler's SS police force, was tricked into thinking that precious metals could be
produced in this way - and then used to buy weapons to strengthen the Third Reich.

The Nazis set up a secret unit in the Dachau concentration camp before the Second World War, and
appointed Karl Malchus, an alchemist, who convinced Himmler that he could make gold from stones, soil
and even paraffin.

But Malchus may have been working for British intelligence in 1938 when he tricked Himmler into
believing his claims, according to Helmut Werner, author of Hltler's Alchemists: The Secret Attempts to
Manufacture Gold in Dachau.

Werner said: 'He was living in England up until the first months of that year and on his return made
contact with Himmler about his unique talents - but of course, it was all a huge swindle.

Malchus got whatever he wanted and Himmler installed him in Dachau, not as a prisoner but as a
technician whose work could be carried out in secret.'

Malchus promised Himmler that a process involving paraffin, stones and the soil from the bed of the Isar
River in Munich would 'produce gold in abundance for the future and security of the Third Reich'.

Everyone involved with the research in Dachau was searched to make sure that no gold was smuggled in
that could later be claimed to have been manufactured from dirt.

But Malchus hid gold nuggets in his cigarettes, and after he had smoked them, presented them to
Himmler as the result of his 'experiments'.

It took a few weeks for Himmler to realise that he had been conned.

Malchus was kept in Dachau for several months as a prisoner, and was warned on his release that he
would face death if he ever spoke of his relationship with the SS chief.

He tried to make a post-war career in Germany out of alchemy, but died in the early 1950s without
experiencing success.

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Post by murx » 17 Aug 2010, 02:02

There had been plenty of experiments for trying or swindlers pretending to make gold. The story with
the cigarettes and paraffin is not Malchus but Franz Tausend, who was earlier and received more cash.

Others during that time:

Fritz Haberer, Germany

Adolf Miethe, Germany

H. Nagaoka, Japan

S.H.Emmens, USA

Scientific American, April 1926: "More Mercuric Gold from Germany"....that a 10,000-fold increase in
yield had been obtained in the production of mercuric-gold process. In his first experiments, Miethe
found1 part Au per 100 million parts Hg. The Siemens Works in Berlin bombarded Hg with electrons in
extremely high vacuum, and obtained 100 mg Au from 1 kg of Hg".

MAKING GOLD CENTRE FOR NUCLEAR RADIATION PHYSICS GUILFORD

http://personal.ph.surrey.ac.uk/~phs1pr ... n-day2.pdf

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Post by Helmut0815 » 19 Sep 2010, 17:47

Another gold making alchemist was charlatan Heinz Kurschildgen, who also promised the nazis that he
was able to make petrol from water. Of course he failed and was sentenced by a criminal court to three
years of imprisonment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Kurschildgen

Complete story (in german language): http://einestages.spiegel.de/external/S ... /l0/F.html

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Post by Simon Gunson » 08 Nov 2010, 23:11

Nuclear physicist Walter Gerlach in the mid 1920s demonstrated with mercury/tungsten cathodes in a
plasma that Lead could be transmuted to Gold. It was hugely energy consuming.

Later Seimens bought the patent rights and developed the process further. By use of a vacumn they
found a way to lower the energy threshold ten times making it more efficient.

During the war years Gerlach returned to this theme as Nazi Plasma scientists turned their minds to
obtaining fissile Uranium by transmutation of Thorium. This was under a Projekt Thor launched by
Heereswaffenamt in January 1942. A contract was let to AEG for provision of large amounts of electricity
for this specific project.

The source for projekt Thor I am afraid is not highly reputable, being Joseph Farrell, however the rest
about 1920s experiments anybody can google for themselves.

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Post by HaEn » 09 Nov 2010, 21:21

"Making" gold out of other metals has been tried throughout the ages. Modern chemistry developed
from the old alchemists, who did the experimenting, and sometimes by accident discovered something
useable.Tke properties of lead and gold supposedly are somewhat similar, so the thought of transmuting
lead into gold is not all that far fetched.

There are "samples" in a number of musea of supposedly successful experiments.

If I remember it well, the process of making "fuel" (NOT gasoline or oil) out of water, was successfully
demonstrated as early as the 1930's. Water was electrically "split" into oxygen and hydrogen, the
hydrogen was burned with the help of the freed oxygen. The process was too costly though, and a Dutch
physicist (don't remember his name) was declared insane for his claims, and his wife and daughters
moved to Switzerland into a chalet at a lake, compliments of Royal Shell Oil company :roll: Perhaps he
was not that crazy afteral :cry: The experiment was repeated many times, and supposedly there are cars
running on "hydrogen" gas.

Just my two cents on far fetched claims.

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Post by Karin Malchus » 16 Feb 2012, 08:17

I have just joined and am a little lost, however I shall do my best.

Karl Malchus, 'Himmlers Alchemist'. My name is Karin Malchus and some years ago Prof. Peter H. Laur of
the Aachen University, Germany contacted me as he was doing a Thesis on Karl Malchus. I was able to
help him and at the end of several years of research his findings were that in his opinion, he exonerated
my father of wrong doing.

By the way, he did not die in Germany in the early 1950's, he died in Melbourne, Australia, in 1962.

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Post by wm » 19 Feb 2012, 22:59

HaEn wrote:

If I remember it well, the process of making "fuel" (NOT gasoline or oil) out of water, was successfully
demonstrated as early as the 1930's. Water was electrically "split" into oxygen and hydrogen, the
hydrogen was burned with the help of the freed oxygen.

People have been splitting water using electricity from the times of Napoleon but maybe the backward
Germany of the thirties had not got the memo on time. :)

The problem is not that the process is costly but that it has a negative energy balance, the electrical
energy input is greater than the energy available during the re-combination of the hydrogen and oxygen.

It is like selling your car at your trusty used car dealer and buying it back the next day. Your not going to
get rich doing this.

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Post by wm » 19 Feb 2012, 23:31

Karin Malchus wrote:

I have just joined and am a little lost, however I shall do my best.

 Karl Malchus, 'Himmlers Alchemist'. My name is Karin Malchus and some years ago Prof. Peter H. Laur
of the Aachen University, Germany contacted me as he was doing a Thesis on Karl Malchus. I was able to
help him and at the end of several years of research his findings were that in his opinion, he exonerated
my father of wrong doing.

By the way, he did not die in Germany in the early 1950's, he died in Melbourne, Australia, in 1962.

If I may ask, is it true that he was a British agent as the Daily Mail is claiming? I would say this part of the
story is hard to swallow.