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PUBLICATION: GEK 97310 TITLE: On-Site Operation and Maintenance

Manual for General Electric
LM2500 G Series Gas Generators
and LM2500 P Series Gas Turbines

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NATURE OF Updates Appendix A, ICN DATE: 15 June 2012

CHANGE: MID-TD-0000-6, Lubricating Oil
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LUBRICATING OIL GUIDANCE

FOR
GE AERO ENGINES

GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY

MARINE & INDUSTRIAL ENGINES
CINCINNATI, OHIO 45215

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This document provides the requirements and
application guidelines for selection and use of
lubricating oils in GE Marine and Industrial
Aeroderivative applications.
NOTE: Industry standards are moving toward the
improvements offered by SAE AS5780. This
broadens the fitness criteria definition to include
the improvements in traceability, change control,
and bench test standards.
Oil products continue to evolve and improve.
Customers should consult with oil suppliers
regarding the details of their product offerings.
6-1 Oil Specifications
As a starting point, oils conforming to the specifi-
cations listed in Section 6-2.1 are candidates for
use in GE aircraft derivative gas turbines. Please
note, each of the specifications contain sub-
classes that differ in their performance goals. Fur-
thermore, oils conforming to the same specifica-
tion and sub-class are not necessarily identical in
every aspect of performance. For example, an oil
may be superior with respect to coking, but show
a relatively poor compatibility with O-ring mate-
rials, while passing the specification require-
ments. Meanwhile other approved oils may be
superior in both respects.
As such, there are many factors that deserve con-
sideration in order to narrow the selection. They
include, but are not limited to:
• A particular oil product needs to be
listed on the Qualified Product List
(QPL) for the specification.
• GE prefers the 5 cSt grades conforming
to MIL-PRF-23699 STD or SAE
AS5780 SPC over the 3 cSt grade of
MIL-PRF-7808. Approval by GE of use
of oil to MIL-PRF- 7808 on a site-by-
site basis is a requirement for some GE
Aeroderivative products as specified in
the applicable operation and mainte-
nance (O&M) manual.
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6-2 Applicable Documents
The following documents form a part of this
specification to the extent defined herein. Unless
a particular issue is stipulated, the latest revision
shall apply.
6-2.1 Oil Specifications
MIL-PRF-23699 - Lubricating Oil, Aircraft
Turbine Engines, Synthetic Base
MIL-PRF-7808 - Lubricating Oil, Aircraft
Turbine Engines, Synthetic Base
SAE AS5780 - Specification for Aero and
Aero-Derived Gas Turbine Engine Lubricants
6-3 Recommendations
6-3.1 Oil Mixing
Oil mixing is discouraged because it creates a
condition that has not been thoroughly evaluated
by testing and can create conditions that
adversely affect lubrication.
NOTE: MIL-PRF-7808 oils are not compatible
with either MIL-PRF-23699 or SAE AS5780 oils.
6-3.2 Material Compatibility
Oil specification MIL-PRF-23699 includes high
thermal stability (HTS) oil formulations designed
to resist degradation over extended periods at
higher temperatures. The SAE AS5780 specifica-
tion includes high performance capability (HPC)
oils. Service experiences with some HTS/HPC
oils in GE Aviation Products have demonstrated
excessive swelling and softening of traditional
AMS-R-83248 (FKM) elastomer seals used in the
lube systems. The level of degradation caused by
some HTS/HPC oils is linked to service pressure
and temperatures.
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Reference 1 provides an excellent description of
the chemistry and physics of this well-known
industry issue.
GE Aeroderivative engines continue to use tradi-
tional AMS-R-83248 (FKM) seals. HTS/HPC
oils being considered for use in GE Aeroderiva-
tive products must be reviewed by the operator
and oil supplier for compatibility with these
materials in the particular engine type, environ-
ment, and type of service for which usage is
being considered.
6-4 Fitness Criteria
In order for oils to be considered suitable for use
in GE Aeroderivative applications, the following
criteria must be met.
At a minimum, the oils must be:
1. Approved to MIL-PRF-23699 or AS5780.
OR
2. Approved to MIL-PRF-7808 (for existing
successful applications. Not recom-
mended for future applications).
AND have demonstrated the following:
1. The Oil Manufacturer should demonstrate
suitability to the operator by evaluation of
the oil for a minimum of 25,000 hours
under appropriate operational and cli-
matic conditions. Suitability should be
demonstrated with respect to:
a. Seal material compatibility parity to
MIL-PRF-23699 STD or AS5780
SPC class oils specifically relating to
AMS-R-83248 (Viton A) elastomer
seals
b. Coking
c. Corrosion issues
d. Oil Property Stability and Perfor-
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2. The oil manufacturer should show evi-
dence of suitability for anticipated perfor-
mance beyond 25,000 hours to
demonstrate to their prospective custom-
ers that these requirements have been met.
Engine boroscope inspections, partial engine dis-
assembly, used oil analyses and O-ring condition
evaluation may be required to demonstrate that
the above requirements are met.
The following oils have been widely used in GE
Aeroderivative Products with general customer
satisfaction:
AeroShell 500TM (AS5780 SPC)
AeroShell 560TM (AS5780 SPC)
BP 2380TM (AS5780 SPC)
Mobil Jet Oil IITM (AS5780 SPC)
Turbonycoil 600TM(AS5780 SPC)
BP 2197TM (AS5780 HPC)
Mobil Jet Oil 254TM(AS5780 HPC)
The above list is not intended to be comprehen-
sive and does not imply any GE endorsement.
Ultimately, the operator and oil supplier are
responsible for lubrication selection.
6-5 References
1. SAE Technical Series 2001-01-2974,
“Fluoroelastomer Compatibility with
Advanced Jet Engine Oils”. E.W. Thomas
(available at http://papers.sae.org/)
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