Dr.

Greer to Provide Analysis of Tuesday's Congressional Hearing on UFOs

Find out what is really happening behind the scenes in Washington!

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hello everybody it's dr steven greer i wanted to give all of you an update on
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what's actually going on behind the scenes i'm here in washington right now
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after the congressional hearings on tuesday and there are quite a few things to
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unpack here and i'm i'm here having a conversation with uh blake cousins
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absolutely thanks for uh you know this is pretty intense what's going on in congress we're just
gonna go
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straight to some of the statements that were made what people need to understand is that
because of the people i'm
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working with here in dc i can't talk in any specificity but this is the first of
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many hearings it's not the hearing it's an introductory hearing the other thing to
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remember is that following the public hearing that you have access to and i have here a
transcript
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of the whole thing um there was classified hearing so you need to understand that in the
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public hearings usually it's all pretty much bureaucratic speak and administrative
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nonsense but i think let's take five steps back
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and look at what really happened on tuesday what really happened on tuesday is the equivalent
of a a story i'm going
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to tell you that i think is very insightful and shows how counterintelligence works
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some years ago in the 1990s i was working with a gentleman at the nasa ames research center
and dr richard
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haynes and i gave him a number of cases and he eventually wrote a book called
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ce5 but he was a research scientist there and at that time shared a part of a
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building with the seti project search for extraterrestrial intelligence um
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of carl sagan and other fame and the the top people were in the
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building with him and he went up to them and dr haynes said
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also to frank drake of the drake formula who estimated how many intelligent civilizations there
are
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in our galaxy the drake formula is a calculation of that
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and dr haines says what would you do if i told you that the seti project
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is actually an operation counterintelligence operation to make
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people think that we're looking for something when you know we've already had them land on
the earth
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and that you're using radio telescopes to look for objects and civilizations that aren't using
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that antiquated 1800s technology and this senior scientist turned to dr
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haynes and said well dick i'd say that you're a very smart man
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so what these what this hearing was and if you look at it in its totality
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rather than getting lost in the weeds you come to across with with with these
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this opening concept that the pentagon has only collected 400
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cases to investigate well of course there were several
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thousand cases in the project grudge and project blue book in the 50s and 60s
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the the idea that the people sitting there have zero historical knowledge
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of a ufo phenomenon that's been going on for over 100 years since the late 1800s
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is not conceivably possible
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so you have to begin to ask the bigger question of is are they completely ignorant of the
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facts which given that these are you know government bureaucrats is possible
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or were they uh doing basically what they did with the seti project and say here we're starting
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from fresh we really don't know anything about this and deliberately making it appear to
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congress and the american people in the media that there's no pre-existing body of
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evidence that has been run to ground thoroughly over the last 70 years
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now you don't have to go far to look at that anyone who can read there's a 500 and
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some page book called disclosure that are the edited transcripts of several
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dozen top secret military personnel and government documents that we published in 2001
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as 21 years ago uh in advance of the national press conference uh disclosure project
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uh there are other archives around the world in private hands but also in government hands that
i'm aware of
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i have people on my team who've been in classified vaults where there are literally hundreds of
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thousands of pages of documents on this as well as the reverse engineering of extraterrestrial
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vehicles etc now these two witnesses uh bray and moultrie
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they either are similar to chris mellon either
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deliberately keeping themselves ignorant of the fact the willful blindness has call it or they're
lying
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you only have two choices here this was under oath so if you're going to be
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called under oath if you have that information have access
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to even a cursory review of existing material in the public domain never
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minding these classified compartmented operations that people on my team have seen and
been in
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then you know you can't have it both ways you're either completely ignorant and a very poor
researcher in which case
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you should not writ large be testifying as an authority figure in front of
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congress or number two you are a part of a deception these are your only two
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choices there aren't any other choices for people like chris mellon and these
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guys because you either know and you're not telling the truth and withholding information
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or you don't know in which case that would make you the most poorly informed person
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ever to be tasked with researching a subject of any type in the government or elsewhere
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so that's that's let's set the stage with that the other thing to remember is that the
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real investigation that's going on is going on underneath those guys
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what i mean by underneath is going on more quietly subrosa
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is going on in a way where they have already confirmed
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and answered many of the questions posed in the hearing that these folks said they had no
information on
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that i know for a personal fact personal fact direct
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so this hearing uh is is something people have to begin
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to to really look at it from a you know this sort of big picture view of where does it fit now what
i'm hoping
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and what i've been told by my sources who are very high up in the intelligence
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community and what have you is that there'll be many others that this is the beginning of a
process
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but with that said uh anyone listening that's why i'm doing this tonight
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is you really cannot erode further
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confidence and faith and trust in the government of the united states
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by putting on something like what happened tuesday it's erosive
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to public trust because anyone who look 750 million people have seen our
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documentary unacknowledged which is chock full of cases military witnesses
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documents evidence that is it's an hour and 42 minutes
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same thing with above top secret and are the books we have unacknowledged and disclosure
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those four things alone would have answered almost all the questions asked in this hearing
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and those are in the public domain and literally millions and millions of people have seen them
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so what happens is when congress holds a hearing like this and it's someone oh my team called
it a
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dumpster fire and it ends up being what you saw and if you get the transcript i recommend
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people get the transcript and read it and we're going to go through it today what happens is that
my bigger concern
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is that it makes a laughing stock out of the government and its investigatory capabilities when i
know
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for a fact there are very very very good people who are doing investigation and who have hit
pay dirt
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uh so i think that they better get all on the same page and stay out of the
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public eye until they're willing to tell the truth the whole truth
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and nothing but the truth and if you're under oath you damn well better do that because you're
you're rushing up against
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um perjury federal perjury risk not two so that's that's you know uh
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some just introductory remarks i wanted to make the other thing i wanted to point out is in the
opening few seconds
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the the chairman of the committee uh mr carlson used the term national security threat
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and that terminology came up with by my account of the transcript about eight times
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now the problem with that is that let's take another way step back
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from the 1940s forward this issue should have never
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underscored been primarily led by military and intelligence folks
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it should have been the scientific community nasa uh and other concerned entities
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because once it falls into the black pit of classified military intelligence and
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military operations but more importantly the old saying if you're a hammer the
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whole world looks like a nail so if you're a military in your mindset everything that happens out
there you
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don't understand you're going to see it as a threat when it isn't
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now the other part of it is that there is a big threat but they're presenting this national
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security threat as something from external with the implication it might be
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extraterrestrial or it might be another country or china in reality the people i'm working with
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have concluded as we have over the last 30 years since i first briefed
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the president and the ci director clinton's the ci director that the national security threat is
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from the secrecy now go back and look at my books and also unacknowledged
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the documentary it's on amazon prime and 2b and youtube and see it everywhere for free
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it has in there a document signed by the first director of the cia admiral roscoe
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hellinketer in a letter he wrote to the new york times where he states
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the secrecy surrounding this issue is a threat to the national security
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now that was written i believe in 1961 all right so we're talking 61 years ago
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almost two-thirds of a century this dot this letter is not in dispute
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so here we are starting as if we're beginning at zero where they hit the reset button like they did
with project
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blue book and pretend like we're starting from scratch and this is why
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we're assembling and we need everyone's help on this anyone listening who's a serious
researcher
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we're putting together the largest archives on ssds solid state hard drives
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that will be used by these investigators who are sincerely trying to find the
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answers and then and i am then personally currying them and handing them off to those people
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so anyone out there who has documents legitimate photos
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video testimony whistleblowers actual intelligence they need to get that to us
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in the next two weeks because this train has really already left the station
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and the reason that's important is that there has to be a
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extensive open source archive that both members of the us government
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such as members of congress the presidential staff the national security council
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the white hats the good guys that are in the pentagon and cia and they exist
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as well as the american public can access that would have everything that is
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legitimate now we are putting that together it's a huge task i have a team right now flying around
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uh collecting a lot but we need more and you can't have too much
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so that's a request at the very beginning because i think that this is a public
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um you know a private public government initiative to try to get
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the people who are responsible for overseeing the us government uh read in
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briefed properly and quite clearly you saw what happened uh
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at this hearing the members of congress learned virtually nothing there were a few
administrative
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and organization and bureaucratic you know things discussed
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but there was nothing of any substance whatsoever that was revealed and that's ridiculous
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and yet with all the hype and ballyhoo that that should never happen because i
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think there are too many when you look at the us the last polls that were done 55 to 65
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percent of the u.s population know that ufos are real and believe that
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some are from extraterrestrial origin so when you have a hearing like this that's so widely
watched
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that undermines the faith and trust and credibility of the us government i think
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it's very counterproductive for democracy well since also that they were
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wanting to kill the messenger in regards to some of the some of the private research groups like
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ourselves yourselves trying to spread the word on this and they were bringing up a really
provocative
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statement that got my eyebrows kind of raised when they're talking about if there's any
ramifications legally that
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they could do to people that go against the narrative let's let's roll this clip real quick sure
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uh obviously this topic of uaps uh has attracted a lot of interest in in people
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that are um curious about uh this this hearing today
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as we talk about um and i would say there's a lot of what i would call uh amateur interest groups
uh
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that are involved in the uap field mike my question is when there are
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unsubstantiated claims or manufactured claims of uaps or kind of false information that's put out
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there what are the consequences for people that are involved with that or groups
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that are involved with that so one of the concerns that we have is
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that there are a lot of individuals and groups that are are
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putting information out there that that could be considered to be somewhat self-serving
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uh we're trying to do what's in the what's in the best interest of one the department of defense
and then two
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what's in the best interest of the public to ensure that we can put factual based information back
into the
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mainstream and back into the bloodstream of the reporting uh media that we have
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so people understand what's there it's important because we are attempting
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um as this hearing as has drawn out to understand one what may just be natural phenomenon
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to what may be sensor phenomenology or things that were happening with censors three
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what may be legitimate counter intelligence threats to places that we have or bases or
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installations or security threats to our platforms and anything that diverts us
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off of what we have with the resources that have been allocated to us send us off in these
spurious
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chases and hunts that are just not helpful and they also helped whether they also contribute to
the undermining
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of the confidence that the congress and the american people have that we are trying to get to
the root cause of
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what's happening here report on that and then feed that back into our national security
apparatus so we are able to
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protect the american people and our allies so it is harmful it is hurtful but hopefully if we get
more information
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out there we'll start to lessen the impact of some of those spurious reports so just taking that a
step further so
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though that misinformation false narratives manufactured so what are the consequences are
there legal
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consequences are there examples that you can give us where people have been held
accountable by this misinformation or
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disinformation i can't give you you know any examples where somebody's been legally held
liable for putting
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something out there but well i guess what's the deterrent from people engaging in this activity
yeah
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i don't i don't know i i don't have that answer i that's something that uh you know welcome to
dialogue with congress
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to talk about that with the members who uh you know help legislate those laws so it seems that
they want to attack the
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second amendment with the ufo phenomenon and they're going to use that maybe to mess with
our
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rights it was pretty much loud and clear that they want to maybe even change or ask congress
to change laws
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yes i think that that was brought up by a member of congress not by the uh
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you know people testifying but i think you know that
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opens this larger question of uh who's watching the watchers who's
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watching the the the secret programs and when they're above top secret
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when people i've met with like ci directors like admiral wilson like the
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people now who are in charge of the black budget of the united states and they get denied
access to projects we
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can prove exist and have now gotten them information so they can get in
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you cannot undermine that by threatening to criminalize
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private investigations on something like this and i want to go back what you're saying is very
important because there's
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this tendency right now all over the united states towards totalitarianism censorship
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um the infringement of free speech etc and so on very dangerous uh it's the worst i've seen in
my
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lifetime this in the last five years now this was the the reference here was even
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saying are there laws that we could criminalize say for example what everyone's been doing
who's
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worked with me on the disclosure project that's very worrisome um and uh
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hopefully you know that doesn't go any further than it being asked as a question and then
vaguely answered by the witnesses they
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really uh didn't say too much about it honestly if you look at their answers but uh it is it's a red
flag i agree with
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you but i think more importantly is you cannot criminalize an investigation
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or the disclosure of evidence materiel whistleblower testimony government
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documents no matter how many stamps they have on them top secret if the entity
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that is keeping it secret is itself a criminal organization
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and remember this was the assessment we reached in the mid 1990s it's why we wrote that
unless otherwise
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directed letter which is what you write to agencies when you're when you say to the military
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unless i'm told otherwise unless directed otherwise we're our assessment is that these
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projects are illegal unconstitutional and rogue therefore
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anybody can come forward with documents from any base materiel
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top secret witness testimony and no prosecution persecution
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criminality is attached to that act because the organization that is holding
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all of that is lying to the president lying to congress lying to the oversight
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people in the pentagon who have a need to know and i can prove this in a court law every
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word i just said i can prove in a court of law therefore you cannot criminalize people who
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disclose illegal operations because by definition if the operation
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is illegal it is a priori
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uh not protected by the law it's like if someone was running a mafia storefront
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and someone broke when they said oh you know i'm gonna have you arrested because you
broke into my illegal operation well
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they can't do that you can't do that you know contract law and and just basic
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uh legal theory if an organization is criminal and illegal which this
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organization keeping this issue secret at this level is they've opted out of the law so they
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can't then turn around and use the law to prosecute persecute
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penalize people who come forward that we put forward in the 1990s and by
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the way from 1997 98 we put a 60-day timer on it
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no one since that time has ever approached me in the us government and said you were
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wrong about this and because i know i could prove in a court of law i'm right i've met with too
many
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people over the last 30 years cabinet-level people
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top people at the cia pentagon but also in congress on oversight committees since the 90s i've
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been meeting with people and in the early 2000s who were senate intelligence and house
government oversight
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none of those people had been read into the subject all of them even when they made inquiries
were
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brushed off or threatened the way admiral wilson was so i think people need to understand
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that an organization that behaves that way is no longer protected by the laws of
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the united states or any other country they operate in in in this fashion in an illegal fashion
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this concerning just uh the language that was brought up and uh we're looking at it very closely
another thing that
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caught my attention was the off-world material or material that's
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been recovered and one of the eyewitnesses basically stated straight up that there is no
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evidence recovered one way or the other what's your thoughts on that we'll run
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the clip uh when it comes to material that we have we have no material
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we have detected no emanations within the uap task force that that is
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uh that would suggest it's anything non-terrestrial uh in origin so there's
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um when i say unexplained i mean everything from too little too little data to we simply the data
that we have
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doesn't point us towards an explanation but we'll go wherever the data takes us again we've
made no assumptions about
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what this is or isn't uh we're committed to understanding these and so we'll go wherever that
data takes us
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thank you that's that's very helpful until i think it bears emphasis when you say we can't explain
everything that you
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can't explain is in a bucket called data is that correct and that would mean uh
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data collected by sensors visual observations everything that we can't explain quote-unquote is
in a bucket
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called data right a narrative report uh from uh from the early 2000s if it just
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had a little bit of information on it would be in our database and it would be unresolved i would
add to that it's
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insufficient data i mean that's one of the challenges we have insufficient data either on the event
itself the object
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itself or insufficient data or plug-in with some other organization or agency
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that may have had something in that space at that time so it's a data issue that we're that we're
facing in many of
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these instances congressman understood thank you very much yield back so you just heard it
uh nothing recovered off
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world or otherwise mundane stuff if anything well you see this is another huge
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problem either these two witnesses have not been read into those projects
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which is possible uh maybe they're the people underneath them that are penetrating those
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operations or giving them plausible deniability in advance of this hearing to keep them in the
dark
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i mean washington operates that way or they're lying under oath
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so again i get back to my opening comment there is so much abundant evidence and testimony
direct
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first-hand testimony and even documents that are top secret that we've gotten
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about the retrieval of such material and the study of it there are reams and
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reams of information on this that i've been providing and and giving heads up to
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these investigators where they're located where the skiffs the secure communication information
facilities are
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and the deep underground military bases the dumbs are located that are holding this
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materiel and they now know now whether or not these two witnesses
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have had the people under them or in other parts of the government not
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read them in on that it's possible i have not had a conversation with either
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of these two witnesses but if they don't know well that's a complete failure of
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of being a proper manager and a proper leader and an administrator
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and then why are they being called in front of congress to testify at all but if they do know and
they have been
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read into this then they light under oath and and that's of course a federal criminal evidence
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so it's basically sci sensitive compartmentalized information and we
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don't know maybe these two um witnesses don't have access to some of these other
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projects that are above top secret so either there's possible yeah so but but
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there are people there are people working underneath them who are hooked into that
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system i'm dealing with so the question is where is the breakdown on intelligence or and if there
is one
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then they need to fix it before they go in front of the congress and the american people again or
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there's a there's a problem with deception happening but you don't have any other choices on
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this you know and there's a statement that was interesting where they said that they there's an
authoritative that they
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answered to but we didn't get that person's name and who's that authoritative uh let's bring up
another
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statement about the the uh the uap phenomenon whether the
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military has engaged them with any kind of firepower or have they engaged them militarily and
again there was a
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reaction said that there was none whatsoever have we engaged
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in military action against uh the uap as far as some of the information you've
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received let's listen to the clip and let's kind of body language this
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so we don't we don't even put out a alert saying you know uh us um
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identi you know identify yourself uh you are you know within our flight path or something like
that we we
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haven't said anything like that we've not put anything out like that generally speaking uh what
you know for
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example in the video that we showed earlier uh it appears to be something that is uh you know
unmanned uh appears
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to be something that may or may not be in controlled flight and so we've not attempted any
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communication with that okay so um and i assume we've never discharged any
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armaments against a uap correct that's correct so there you go they're not they're
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admitting that we haven't shot again is this uh information that they're not privy to
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well again that's a completely false statement um it's demonstrably false we have the
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testimony of merle shane mcdowell who was at the atlantic command underneath the sink
atlantic command of admiral of
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harry train when we scrambled jets in the early 1980s and fired on
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a ufo off the coast of newfoundland that was on five radar stations we scrambled
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jets fighter jets who did fire on it but we did not successfully down it
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and he is on the record and we have other events where there's documentation
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and top secret military personnel in the disclosure project let me go to my youtube channel and
you'll see we have
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people like us others who have actually been on retrieval teams i just presented this
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new top secret witness who was in the 2000s was on a retrieval team
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uh recovering both uh extraterrestrial but also man-made ufos
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that were roughly triangular that were electromagnetic field propulsion devices
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and all of that we presented at the conference last month in in arizona in
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which that information has also been handed off to the government investigators
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so uh there are many many many cases like this over the years in fact
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thousands of cases uh where this has happened and so for
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these people to say they have no knowledge of anything anyone who would would just do a
cursory review of the
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ufo literature that is out there in the public domain would know that that is a
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false statement but again and i'm not trying to just dump on
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government people all the time but you know i don't i've seen enough just
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utter slacker incompetence in government that it's feasible it's
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possible that these people have not gotten any of that information but if that's the case
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they need to be replaced with someone who at least knows how to read the case files and
evidence that are
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extant that are freely available from very credible sources so um now i think the way they
couched it
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though is that i don't have any in other words the the very narrow scope of this sort
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of dog and pony show which is acting like we're basing everything we know on this on these
400
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cases that they keep citing when of course in the u in the literature
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there are over 4 000 aircraft encounter cases and radar cases already
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there are numerous of them such as mr callahan and the japan airlines event and i have the
radar tape
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and military jets were scrambled to alaska for that event if you read our material
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then you have this whole question of well uh
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there are 3500 cases where these objects have landed and left physical evidence like at the
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air force base in england at randallshim forest the bentwaters case there are 3 500 of those
cases
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there are all the crash retrieval cases that lynn stringfield documented and that other people my
team have
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documented so it's very hard for me to imagine that you're running a multi-million dollar
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office now remember the disclosure project and all this that
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you've seen us collect have been done without professional investigators
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people working for free no offices and no paid staff
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now i'm supposed to believe as a medical doctor and a scientist that somebody with tens of
millions of
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dollars in their budget and the firepower they have in terms of
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investigation and research that all of this that we're talking about is off
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their radar it's it's it's mind-blowing it's it's mind-boggling so again you're either
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dealing with the most ill-informed people in the history of this subject or people who are
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advancing some other false misdirect where they're saying well we're just
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starting out this is all new to us we don't know anything and that is completely got to be false i
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mean now these guys who are new onto the scene maybe they haven't done their homework
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yet but if you haven't done your homework and prepared why would you be testifying under oath
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with the whole world watching in front of a relevant member of the house
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intelligence committee i mean this is you know this is a real disconnect here and i think it erodes
uh faith and
34:22
confidence in the u.s government well it's embarrassing actually when they're trying to present
the ufo
34:28
evidence and it took them about five minutes and they actually failed to even show whatever the
object was which was
34:33
pretty pathetic that's the best they have we obviously know they got better especially the public
34:39
has the information yeah as you say just independent is no budget and
34:45
you're bringing presenting more evidence in what congress did again another thing that caught
my attention was
34:52
their lack of information or knowledge like you say in regards to the
34:58
maelstrom uh incident where the congressman was asking them to do an investigation on it
35:04
or if they know anything about it and here's a clip it's it's it's kind of quite telling here let's watch
35:09
yep it's also been reported uh that there have been uap observed uh and interacting with and
flying over
35:16
sensitive military facilities particularly not just ranges but uh some facilities housing our strategic
nuclear
35:21
forces one such incident allegedly occurred at malmstrom air force base in which 10
35:27
of our nuclear icbms were rendered inoperable at the same time a glowing red orb was
observed overhead i'm not
35:32
commenting on the accuracy of this i'm simply asking you whether you're aware of it and
whether you have any comment
35:37
on the accuracy of that report we passed that to mr brave you've been looking at uaps over the
last three years that data
35:43
is not uh within the holdings of the uap task force okay but are you aware of the the report
35:50
or that the data exists somewhere i i have uh
35:55
i have heard stories i have not seen the official data on that so you've just seen informal stories
no official
36:01
assessment that you've done or exists within dod that you're aware of uh regarding the
malmstrom incident
36:09
all i can speak to is you know what's within my cognizance the uap task force and we have not
looked at that incident
36:15
well i was i missed a pretty high profile incident uh i i don't claim to be an expert on this but
that's out
36:20
there in the ether you're you're the guy's investigating it i mean who else is doing it if something
36:27
was officially brought to our attention we would look at it there are many things that are out there
in the ether that aren't officially brought to our
36:33
attention how would it have to be officially brought to you i'm bringing it to you this is pretty
official sure so we'll go
36:39
back and take a look at it but generally there is some um authoritative figure that says there is
an instant that
36:45
occurred we'd like you to look at this but in terms of just tracking what may be in the media that
says that something
36:50
occurred at this time at this place they're probably a lot of leads that we would have to follow up
on i don't think
36:55
we were resourced to do that right now well i don't claim to be an authoritative figure but for
what it's worth i would like you to look into it
37:01
for another reason you could dismiss it and say this is not worth wasting resources on um so
there there we go no
37:08
knowledge i guess he's gonna look into it now that it was brought up by the congressman but
isn't it interesting
37:14
that these guys are the ones in charge and again no knowledge of some of these famous cases
37:19
well it's not famous cases but in the disclosure project we have the testimony
37:24
of people who were there we have other people who are at norad who saw the transcript of the
event and
37:31
we have the official government documents of that case it's in the
37:38
disclosure book now i always keep saying this because everyone nobody reads anymore
37:44
but if you read that book and you can just get it on you get it online get our store
37:51
those government documents and first-hand government witnesses who were in the command
center in one instance
37:58
and in the silo in another that's we put that out there 21 years
38:03
ago and it happened way before then so again if you are doing a serious
38:12
research on this subject and again this is information in the public domain that
38:18
millions of people have seen and you're there testifying in front of the congress
38:24
and saying you have no knowledge of a case like that for which there are
38:30
government insider testimony and official uncontested government documents about it
38:37
then my god you know this person needs to go to kindergarten on the ufo issue before
38:43
they start testifying before a house intelligence committee panel
38:52
you know again the lack of knowledge i think it's interesting to note because
38:57
they only want to hit on the evidence from 2004 and up and not really hitting on any of the
evidence prior to that and
39:04
basically they're not looking at all the bulk of incred incredible evidence cooperating
39:11
because it's probably too smoking gun for them that's where it's all at they want to kind of just go
on with the tic tac which obviously i think we have our
39:18
own opinions on what the tic tac is you think that's deliberate i do i mean i think that it's either
39:25
someone is keeping them out of the information nexus you know all the the
39:32
available information or there's willful blindness where don't tell me about that it's better if
39:37
i don't know so that i can be a mouthpiece to go up to congress or to the national security
council or to the
39:44
president and honestly without lying say i don't know anything
39:49
and and i think that so there's some kind of nonsense going on here and that needs to get
corrected they
39:55
need to uh become uh more professional and educated on the
40:01
subject before they sit in front of a uh congressional hearing and in front of the american public
and american
40:08
media you also brought up to my attention that there was a portion that you probably
40:14
thought was quite interesting in regards to wilson the admiral wilson files where yes pretty much
very important i think
40:20
that was the most important thing of the whole hearing let's uh let's listen to that clip real quick
40:26
yeah are you aware of a document that appeared around 2019 uh sometimes called the admiral
wilson memo or ew notes memo
40:35
i am i am not you're not are you trying i'm not personally aware of that okay this is a document
in which again i'm
40:41
not commenting on the veracity i was hoping you would help me with that in which a former
head of dia claims to
40:46
have had a conversation with the doctor eric wilson and claims to have uh sort of been made
aware of certain
40:52
contractors or dod programs um that he tried to get fuller access to and was
40:58
denied access to um so you're not aware of that i'm malware congressman i think this uh
41:04
this question was very important and unfortunately
41:10
again you know the people answering didn't have any knowledge of it now remember admiral
wilson
41:15
this memo they're referring to is a a debriefing of the admiral
41:22
by this gentleman and it was leaked out of
41:29
edgar mitchell's archives after he passed away but it was about the meeting i
41:36
had with admiral wilson who is the head of intelligence j2 for the joint chiefs of staff
41:42
and this is 25 years ago this is 1997 april 1997
41:47
and of course in that admiral wilson admits this is not in the in the transcript of
41:52
course the questions and answers that he had found out about this clandestine
41:58
beyond black above top secret group but had been threatened with the motion and and more
42:05
uh for if he didn't back off of the inquiries now remember
42:10
that his inquiries about this happened after we provided enough actionable intelligence to him
42:17
uh through channels courier prior to the meeting and at the meeting of course i brought
astronaut edgar
42:24
mitchell there so he could learn he really didn't have any information on the subject way back
42:29
then but also i had my military advisor and a military witness
42:34
um whistleblower and uh my assistant sherry adamec so that was going to be a
42:40
45 minute stand up briefing it went on for i think nearly three hours
42:47
the admiral kept canceling appointments because it was so much information being
42:53
provided but prior to the meeting we had courier over him
43:00
a cache of documents government documents that had not been declassified
43:06
that had project code names and code numbers on it and other information and based on that
just like we're doing now
43:12
with with people in washington today with this new investigation they were able he was able as
as a head
43:19
of intelligence joint staff to locate the offices and the operations
43:25
excuse me the operations responsible for handling this issue and
43:31
but when he did and he started kept pushing on it he was a threatened and it says so in
43:39
this transcript the the memo about admiral wilson making his inquiries the other thing that's in
43:45
that memo are the names of the offices if you read it carefully that he had found had operations
43:53
that were in these rogue and clandestine projects now the reason that is so important and
43:58
this is i said this some years after he left that command is that it's another exhibit this
44:05
exhibit why in all the meetings i've had with people who absolutely if these projects
44:12
were being run legally constitutionally absolutely would have been read into and
44:18
certainly not been threatened by a bunch of thugs which is what happened to the ci
44:24
director woolsey which happened to the president which happened to on the list goes on and on
and on and on
44:30
i've recently found and this is breaking news
44:36
that many of you know about what we call the christopher cox memo
44:42
and congressman cox was an orange county republican with whom i met
44:48
many years ago when he was the representative from orange county to the congress
44:53
he later became w bush's sec chairman security exchange commission
45:00
but at the time when he was congressman he was interested in this and he was on the house
science committee and technology
45:06
committee so i briefed him on this personally for some time and at the end
45:14
of the meeting he says well i have never been read into any of this and i'm on a number of
committees
45:20
and where are these facilities and where are these
45:26
uh bases and what corporations i will say so some of them are in your district
45:32
under your nose so i created the cox memo which has been in all the presidential briefing
45:39
materials and has also been handed off to this current iteration of investigations that are going
on here in
45:44
washington right now but we keep expanding it as we get more intelligence
45:50
but the original cox memo and its update and all of that kind of information
45:56
resulted in him congressman cox finding out enough that he was a couple
46:04
of goons in black showed up and threatened to kill him and
46:09
his entire family if he didn't back off and stop asking questions about this i learned this from
46:15
a friend a personal friend of the congressman about a month ago
46:20
so i think that you know this is another pattern where you have government officials who
46:27
have a need to know you have pentagon senior admiral generals flag officers with a need to
46:33
know you have cabinet level secretaries and ci directors with a need to know and you have
presidents all of whom we can
46:41
prove have been either denied access or threatened worse
46:46
by this organization that is prima facie evidence of a criminal conspiracy so this is not a
46:53
conspiracy theory there are real conspiracies like iran contra or the mafia
46:59
so we're talking here criminal activity and the fact that
47:05
as much publicity as there has been on that leaked memo from admiral wilson and from the
briefing we did
47:12
for the neither of these gentlemen to have any knowledge of it again it's such a failure of either
47:19
themselves or their staff and it's quite possible they don't know
47:26
then in which case what's happening here is that these figureheads going up in
47:31
front of the congress there have to be people on their team keeping them out of the loop
47:36
that are keeping them in the dark because no one can be this inept a cursory google search
47:43
of this subject would bring up admiral wilson's experience and what happened to him that's
referenced in in this memo
47:50
that very surprisingly to me a member of congress actually knew about but if a member of
47:56
congress knew about it how can this senior figure bray at the office of
48:02
naval intelligence and moultrie who are tasked with this issue have no knowledge
48:08
of it you know this is again it either screams
48:13
incompetence and ignorance or cover-up neither is very good i think because i
48:19
think uh the american people deserve better the members of congress who are sincerely trying
to get to the bottom of
48:25
this deserve better i think they actually watched our documentary that we worked together on
48:32
above top secret due to the fact that we're calling out the major media by them sharing these
obvious cgi
48:39
application phone apps showcasing fake ufos including the famous corbell video
48:45
that they've been pushing for a couple years and they actually had to go back and debunk it but
what's interesting the
48:51
news is still praising jeremy corbell for his name being mentioned but did
48:56
they fail to hear that they debunked his video and they continued to show this uh again very i
but i think that's also
49:04
here let me comment on that i think that that has been done deliberately so that all triangular
49:11
craft are dismissed as drones that have been filmed improperly
49:17
so this then takes out of consideration it's a way if if they if they push a
49:23
false piece of evidence like that and it's later proven to be
49:28
a misperception etc and so on by extension this is again psychological
49:33
warfare people go oh all those triangular objects are just poorly filmed versions of a
conventional
49:41
drone and when that's not the case at all so i think that this
49:47
i i don't i'm not so sure that that's not deliberate because if you look at the
49:53
the the documents we have from the 1950s and the robertson panel cia
49:59
they talked about engaging groups to throw pie pans in the air
50:05
and take pictures of them and then so that they look like a flying saucer quote unquote so that
then the
50:12
astronomers and people like dr menzel who was on the payroll the cia or the
50:18
professor at harvard could go forward and say oh see this one's an obvious
50:23
fake therefore all of these disc shaped objects that have been photographed are faked
50:29
see this is i want people to listen carefully about how counterintelligence operates
50:34
they're very good at what they do and i'm not so sure that the pushing and pushing and pushing
of this poor video
50:41
uh from four bell is was had that as sort of a underlying purpose
50:47
even still because then people say they'll just dismiss anything that's triangular when there are
many
50:54
triangular shaped man-made uh electromagnetic field propulsion devices
51:00
and there are e.t ones that are triangular by the way there are both and i think that you know
this is
51:07
something that any solid researcher knows about but you know even before that happened
51:13
there was an interesting at 31 minutes there was this dialogue um
51:19
30 to 31 minutes with moultrie uh talking about their sensor systems
51:24
and it is incredibly off the mark now maybe in the classified briefing he talked about it
51:32
but you know that back many years ago i met with a man who was an electronics genius
51:39
who invented neutrino light detectors and these are detectors that beginning
51:45
in the 1970s early 70s were put on
51:51
the uh satellites the classified satellites to detect and sense with their sensors
51:58
uh et craft coming in from outer space where they
52:03
then go from one you know a higher frequency um resonance into three dimension you
52:10
know because they're trans-dimensional vehicles and when they begin to materialize quote-
unquote there's this
52:15
burst of neutrino light and then they can track them target them and attempt to knock them
down or capture them
52:22
so that is now almost 50 years on so now i can't speak to what happened in
52:29
the classified uh briefings i haven't gotten that information yet um i'm sure i will but i think that
the
52:36
issue is uh there there are much better sensor systems than are being talked about and
52:42
so the public needs to understand however that the top investigators
52:48
currently who do manage the black budget of the united states and do manage
52:54
the nro and and the three letter agencies they have net until i met with them they
53:00
had never been read into the neutrino light detector system okay
53:06
so it you know again this is the problem you're dealing with extraordinary levels
53:11
of secrecy that becomes so extreme they become illegal because then there are people who
53:18
by all right of law and order should know about a technology like that
53:25
i just described have no knowledge of it so i just want i wanted to bring that up
53:30
because this whole discussion that went on for some time about their censors and what have
you
53:36
uh it wouldn't surprise me if these two gentlemen had not been read
53:41
into these more advanced detection systems
53:48
as we watched this hearings it was almost like a
53:53
going to preschool or kindergarten as in regards to some of their knowledge that they brought
forward
53:59
again they're trying to protect their sensitive assets in regards to protecting our
54:06
national security against adversaries but they did they failed to mention that there was any kind
of cover-up of the
54:12
ufo phenomenon that it doesn't even exist that there's any kind of cover-up
54:17
and again you say there's there's going to be new hearings we haven't heard that publicly but
from what you're telling us
54:24
is that more hearings are going to proceed are we going to expect anything better in the future
is it going to still go
54:30
down this road or are we bringing well by having that discussion i think this is strategic
54:36
let me let's talk about this for a minute and this is a problem i'm facing with
54:41
the people i i deal with all the time here how do you bring people
54:47
to from zero knowledge up to full knowledge it's enormous i mean there is
54:54
serious i call it disclosure ptsd post-traumatic stress disorder because
54:59
the people who penetrate the veil and begin to see what's actually going
55:04
on they are traumatized i mean i went through serious personal trauma in 1992 three
55:12
and four when i realized what's really happening here who's behind it what's being kept secret
these
55:19
same people are going through that now the members of congress haven't reached the trauma
point yet
55:25
they're still at the point where they have very limited even the classified briefings and the
problem is
55:32
is that if you give people whether it's the american public
55:38
or members of the congress or the national security council staff and president white house staff
55:44
too much information too quickly they shut down they they shut down they pull the plug
55:50
they said i don't hear any more about this so it's it's it's very it's like walking the razor's edge slip
your cut in half
55:57
because and this is what we're facing i'm being very frank with my followers here and
56:03
supporters this is delicate because you can't
56:08
you i mean i've lived with this for my entire life since i had contact when i was young and then
as head of the
56:14
disclosure project and it's the repository of almost a thousand top secret military
56:21
whistleblowers over the last 30 years who've come to me and given me their information
56:26
specific information but if you're just now going gee the ufos are real
56:32
and you're at that point to ingest this entire paradigm and all
56:37
this information um it's a bridge too far and i recognize that i'm very
56:43
compassionate about that and i think that's why some patients uh
56:49
is needed here now i think dragging your feet too long into this process
56:56
is not good i think what we need to do or create a series of briefing modules
57:02
level one level two all the way up to level ten or twenty that takes people
57:07
from the beginning in an organized very hard evidence way
57:12
all the way to the advanced knowledge of the threat from inside
57:18
the existence of a transnational superstate the technologies that exist
57:25
that are thousands of years beyond what the u.s government of we the people have access to
the normal government of the
57:32
united states usg that that information is catastrophic if
57:38
you are the president or in charge of the senate intelligence committee or armed services
57:44
or even top brass at the pentagon who first find out about this it is traumatic
57:49
now for conspiracy theory people gobbling up rubbish on the internet in the general public it's all
57:55
entertainment it is not entertaining when you deal with
58:00
the bold-faced gravity of the situation and you are responsible
58:07
and you're doing this responsibly because you know it it then becomes something where
58:13
too much tmi too much information pushed too fast could blow up the system where everyone
58:20
just runs for the hills and shuts down the investigation so i'm trying we're having the first
58:26
we i we're trying to proceed as quickly as possible but realizing
58:31
we're dealing with with folks who really are at the very elementary level of making the first kinds
of questions
58:39
and that's unfortunate i mean this is that you know anyone who's looked at any of
58:44
our documentaries and books would know more than the senior people in congress but
58:50
that's that's the disconnect and remember if you're
58:56
if you're a member of of congress you're dealing with a thousand issues
59:03
everything from the ukraine to the budget to inflation to war to you know uh social issues
59:11
their deal with so many things that the time they have to focus on any and
59:16
at this point remember the gravitas of this problem
59:22
and the implications of it are not known to these members it is not
59:28
i will say that with authority with personal knowledge and for that reason
59:33
we have to be a little patient with the process yeah it's a big pill to swallow a lot of
59:39
information it's bigger than just blurry objects in the sky along those lines but you know is there
59:45
anything else that stood out to you in regards to yes i mean at 51 minutes you have uh scott
bray oh and i house naval
59:52
intelligence say when it when it comes to material that we have
59:57
uh there there's nothing there nothing would suggest non-terrestrial
1:00:04
origin but uh uh a number of these uaps you said we
1:00:09
can't explain again in the service of sort of reducing speculation and conspiracy theories
1:00:16
we can't explain can range from a visual observation that was distant on
1:00:22
a foggy night we don't know what it is to we've found an organic material that we
1:00:28
can identify right those are radically different world worlds so when you say we can't explain
give the public a
1:00:34
little bit better sense of where on that spectrum of we can't explain we are are we
1:00:40
holding materials organic or inorganic that we don't know about are we you know picking up
emanations that are
1:00:47
something other than light or infrared that could be deemed to be communications give us a
sense for what
1:00:52
you mean when you say we can't explain sure when i say uh we can't explain i i mean exactly
as you described there that
1:00:58
there is a lot of information like the video that we showed in which there's simply too little data
1:01:04
to to create a reasonable explanation there are a small handful of cases in which we have more
data
1:01:10
that our analysis simply hasn't been able to uh to fully pull together a picture of what happened
1:01:18
the and those are the cases where we talk about where we see some indications of flight
characteristics or signature
1:01:24
management that are not what we had expected when it comes to material that we have
1:01:29
we have no material we have detected no emanations within the uap task force that that is
1:01:37
uh that would suggest it's anything non-terrestrial uh in origin
1:01:42
well that what this says to me if that's a factual statement is that he doesn't have
1:01:49
even an introductory briefing yet on what's sitting at wright patterson or
1:01:54
the nellis range or out at fort sill near lawton oklahoma or is in the
1:02:00
mountain outside seoul korea that is an american installation we've built to hold a huge et
crappie down there or the
1:02:08
uh nine uh et vehicles and the dissected bodies that are underneath the desert near fort
1:02:15
huachuca army intelligence headquarters out in arizona near tombstone ironically
1:02:20
named so you know the fact that i have multiple people on my team who've been in these
facilities
1:02:26
and have provided us with actionable information and yet these guys who are the
1:02:32
authorities testifying before congress don't know of it is pretty disturbing i mean it's like
1:02:39
how can this possibly be the case except again they either are not being truthful which
1:02:45
i i have a hard time believing they would lie under oath in a public hearing but
1:02:50
possibly or they're deliberately keeping themselves out of the loop or their staff or not letting
them know so that
1:02:58
they don't uh they can they can honestly be the front men
1:03:03
saying being called up and then if you really don't know you're not lying right
1:03:09
so this is the whole that's the concept of plausible deniability so one of the
1:03:15
two things is going on one of the two and if they did admit that they had uh
1:03:20
materials retrieved that would open up a can of worms and obviously they want to
1:03:25
avoid that at all costs necessary as far as the language we're getting anything else uh you're
looking at here
1:03:32
yes i mean look at the uh at times stamp 54 minutes
1:03:38
and i where moultrie says i'm not aware of any contractual programs that are focused on
1:03:45
anything related to this other than uh in the navy task force and
1:03:51
their own well this is ludicrous i mean you know uh look at what the head of the lockheed
1:03:58
skunk works lockheed is a contractor and ben rich
1:04:03
we have his written note that says that they are both ours meaning man-made
1:04:10
ufos and extraterrestrial and he said underlines ufo as unfunded
1:04:15
opportunities ufo he rises in this letter it's in my book unacknowledged it's in the documentary
1:04:22
and this is in his handwriting it's uncontested it's not a contested document at all
1:04:28
so now you go whoa whoa whoa whoa wait a minute that was dated i think in the 80s or 90s
1:04:36
and you're telling me that you have no knowledge after all this research and time and millions of
dollars
1:04:41
that there are major contractors from booz allen hamilton to northrop grumman to lockheed to
1:04:48
a bunch of them that are contracted to research this issue and the energy
1:04:55
and propulsion systems there with that attend how these things move this is ridiculous so again
1:05:03
you know that statement to me was one of the most astonishing things i've ever read uh given
the fact that
1:05:10
you know if evidence on about that we have collected catalogued organized and put out to the
public for decades now
1:05:18
yep this is pretty yeah ben rich wasn't writing a science fiction novel it was a personal uh
1:05:23
letter to james c goodall and uh it was quite revealing what else are you seeing over there
1:05:29
oh i was just looking at the details of uh some of my notes about uh how completely
1:05:39
frankly you know as it gets further along and they ask more and more questions how the how
the answers become
1:05:45
more and more evidence of either not knowing anything or
1:05:50
just idiotic i mean the thing is it sums it all they didn't know anything they're looking into it and
they're going to be
1:05:56
transparent as much as they can to avoid revealing any national security thing but then
1:06:02
again as dr as uh michael schratt would say a big nothing burger came from this
1:06:08
um what what are you gonna well no i think you know it's not a nothing burger because
1:06:14
if you have go ahead if if you have something like the fact that this happened at all
1:06:21
and and the fact that the people up there had no information they didn't even have any technical
1:06:28
assistance to run their slideshow that's in videos these volumes yes
1:06:34
what is what does this say about how seriously this is being taken i mean anyone who would
have a month to
1:06:41
read through the extant already existing literature that's serious stuff i don't mean channelers or
1:06:47
what have you but hard stuff on this subject that like in the disclosure project or timothy good's
book above top
1:06:53
secret excuse me you know i don't know how you could have done any homework on this at
1:06:59
all and or gone into uh the files that exist at various websites that have
1:07:04
government documents on this for example the most viewed documents fbi website is
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the one we published after we published it about the field officer guy hotel
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to jagger hoover about the crash in new mexico and roswell and the debris
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now that's an official document and that it was somehow down because we
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had a new quote radar system radar is a euphemism for electromagnetic weapon
1:07:34
in this case that was switched on and caused these objects to collide and crash
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well that's an official uncontested original
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fbi document that's the most viewed document on the fbi website
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we published it now so if you were going to just do your primer like beginning research on this
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you would know all of this and it you don't have to go to tall tales from the internet and from
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ufology stick with the military whistleblowers stick to the government documents the
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known cases that's all been put out there it's all there and so this is where i get very um
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worried about the process because i think the process if it continues like
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this any further is going to undermine what we're trying to do what what they're trying to do what
they claim
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they're doing and what the members of congress have ordered them to do because you know
this is now in in the
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bill these are now mandated by law that they research this and report back to the
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people's house the congress the senate and house and so
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that's either got to be done seriously or not if it's going to be done seriously the people in charge
cannot
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stick their head in the sand and just say i don't know anything about anything
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you know because it's been in the civilian domain no it's in the civilian domain because we've
done our research
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for 30 years and you this has been done for you
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now if it's a government document or a verified person like admiral wilson
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why aren't those people being brought up to be in uh subpoenaed i have the names of hundreds
of people
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like admiral wilson that can be subpoenaed under oath where they would have to tell
1:09:28
the truth and this whole thing would be case closed all right
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now that being the case and that's been offered that's being provided through channels
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why not what's happening uh why aren't they doing that so it makes you wonder if this really is
going
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to just be a wind addressing and sort of a um a dog and pony show or are they going to
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pivot to saying well now we've discovered this this and this and this is why it's very important for
1:10:03
those of us in the public we the people not to take our foot off the gas
1:10:09
for a nanosecond on pushing for disclosure because if we stop pushing
1:10:14
for that they're going to say okay we've placated and sort of uh satisfied
1:10:22
these initial inquiries by these very busy people in the u.s government and the media and now
we can pivot back
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to the same old status quo of cover-up and so i think this is where
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any attempt to hush up censor or marginalize
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people doing serious research on this is very dangerous because i don't think in a democracy
you can ever count
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on secret programs in a government really becoming clean
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that's only going to happen if the people keep the pressure up no i think
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their goal was to almost dumb it down by presenting the evidence that was very lackluster
they're showing a balloon in
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the sky nothing extraordinary this is the best footage that they they have
1:11:13
and they're trying to dumb down the whole subject matter but looking at the whole thing overall
there there was a
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lot of uh red flags there what are we looking at there well look at this one this is a zinger
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can i read it yes please yeah and this is a quote from moultrie
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there aren't separate uap sensors there's not a separate uap processing
1:11:36
computer false my military advisor was at norad back ages ago
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and there was console 50 with the deep space command that did nothing but track
1:11:49
ufos in space and it was a compartmented specialized computer
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so either but see he makes a blanket statement here that in none of these projects do we
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have that kind of sensor system or computers dedicated to manning this
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he no one should make a bold-faced assertion like that he should say
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i don't know i haven't been read into but to make this statement it is a it is
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not a qualified statement it says there aren't there are not separate and i know this to be a
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provably false statement but it was under oath so i again he
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these people they either need to be very prudent in what they make a statement like that
because the members
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of congress will come out of a meeting like this and go oh well this is under under oath therefore
he said that there
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are no sensors and there are no specialized computers so we really are building the
1:12:49
system from scratch when in reality we began developing those systems in the 40s and 50s
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so and they certainly exist today and very sophisticated ones
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so i think this is another example of a probably false statement
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and without qualifiers you know if you qualify and say to the best of my knowledge or i don't
know or
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um it could exist somewhere but i haven't been read into it but that's not what he said
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he made a blanket statement they don't exist well they absolutely do exist
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yeah what a day it was is a week that we're all looking forward to and that there
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was quite revealing uh statements as far as these blanket statements and the evidence that
contradicts these
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statements uh over and over again it was it's quite revealing you know we got a few minutes left
i know one of the
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things i wanted to point out is that we're towards the very end about an hour and 20 minutes
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mr moultrie makes the comment about a blue on blue events
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where it could be one of ours that we mistake i won't ask you in this setting
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obviously to describe any secret dod programs that said i do want to make
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sure the u.s government isn't chasing its own tail firstly do you have a clear and
1:14:15
repeatable process to check with compartment programs about whether a uap sighting is
attributable to a u.s
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aircraft secondly do does the aimsaw staff have the clearances
1:14:29
and read-ons that they need to investigate all of these incidents and and thirdly
1:14:35
when your staff cannot be read on are your questions to those who are read
1:14:41
on even being answered so i'll start and then i'll pass that to uh to mr bray so we're very
conscious of
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the potential blue on blue issue or u.s on u.s and so we've established
1:14:54
relationships with organizations and entities that that are uh potentially uh flying or
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developing platforms for their own interests if you will and our goal is to continue and we have a
repeatable
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process i think we've had that process for some time to deconflict uh activities that we may
1:15:14
have to ensure that we are not potentially reporting on something that may be a developmental
platform or a u.s
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operational platform that is performing uh either testing or performing a mission to me
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that was the most important thing that he said us on u.s
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now i don't know if he's if somebody tipped him off that this was a big part of the problem
1:15:40
but it is because these if you look at what came out through
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the uh kind of false flag operation known as ttsa and people like elizondo
1:15:52
that almost all the cases they were presenting were
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man-made us above top secret aircraft
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doing incursions into airspace and facilities
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uh to for their psychological warfare value uh and their hours so it is blue on blue
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to use mr moultrie's terminology but more so than he i mean that one
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little statement i was thinking yeah you don't know how right you are that the vast majority
1:16:29
of and to me that was the truest statement although i'm not sure he didn't unpack
1:16:35
it like i am right now is that the vast majority of these encounters
1:16:41
that have been over sensitive installations are our illegal covert aerospace program
1:16:48
that he may not know about but that is they need to be thinking
1:16:54
that way because right now they're going it's from china it's from here or maybe it's from outer
space and it's alien
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um when the vast majority of the things that have been concocted as a threat
1:17:06
and presented as a threat are actually been just made out of whole cloth by
1:17:14
humans this up to and including the abduction phenomenon the mutilations
1:17:20
and let's not forget the 1500 pages of disinformation uh that was released a month or two ago
1:17:27
by the department of defense about the burns and the headaches and pregnancies
1:17:33
and abductions that have been done that were put together in a file by dr kitt green christopher
green who's
1:17:41
an md and a ph.d who but who's a member of the counterintelligence team
1:17:46
putting out false information that i've known him for i know i mean he's been around for decades
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and so that was released we haven't talked about that from the pentagon based on a foia
1:17:58
request well let me tell you four year requests almost never result in anything being released on
this subject that was
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released for its psychological warfare value it made it all through the news
1:18:09
because why then it presents this as something as the fear factor
1:18:15
and that's why 11 months ago or 10 months ago we released the cosmic hoax
1:18:21
which everyone can see that documents what this long-term agenda has been to
1:18:26
manufacture a threat from outer space because how else does a global
1:18:31
fascist militarized group gain power over an entire planet it's
1:18:37
not through a war in ukraine it's through a a planet against the planet
1:18:43
one against another and that is really the long-term strategic defense plan of this covert
1:18:51
group and the way that they can achieve it is by utilizing
1:18:58
these technologies that they have that humans have that stimulate or fake
1:19:03
uh alien encounters and incursions so this has to be really unpacked for the
1:19:11
members of congress but see they're not even at that point of realizing that there are two
distinct things going on
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one a secret government within the government that's transnational and all over the world
1:19:24
that has a thousand years more advanced technologies than the us government they know
about has and extraterrestrial
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objects and the two are deliberately co-mingled
1:19:37
and put together in a confusing narrative like that 1500 page release
1:19:44
because they want the public if they're going to believe in this at all that they believe in it
through the paradigm
1:19:50
of fear war panic invasion rape all the all the actionable
1:19:58
trigger points that humans have when they're afraid of something foreign or some alien so this is
this is
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classics psyops psychological warfare operations and i i think that
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you know we had a little peek into this concept of blue on blue or us on us and
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the left hand not knowing what the right hand's doing uh to me at the very end there that was
probably the most
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beginning of a hopeful comment it did seem like they were uh
1:20:29
at least looking at the idea that we have technology and it could be blue and blue activity and
that was kind of refreshing
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and uh that language was proper you know we got about a minute and 30 seconds left is there
anything uh else you want
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to add what are you up to next um well i'm up to my eyebrows and alligators
1:20:49
dealing with this here in washington but what i'd say is we need people who are listening who
are
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legitimate researchers who hold archives of significant information
1:21:03
evidence like i said government documents whistleblower leads to whistleblowers
1:21:09
actionable intelligence on facilities corporations and very well analyzing legitimate
1:21:16
photos and videos because what we have to do in this what we're back channeling into the
1:21:21
government is the best evidence that we can get so they don't keep showing rubbish like
1:21:27
that corbell video that's okay so so you guys should help us with that there are a lot
1:21:33
of people who who are listening that have content and what we're doing right now just so you
have an idea we're doing
1:21:40
a global scrub a scrub of the whole plan of everything that could be a legitimate
1:21:45
source of information that will then be analyzed and triaged most important to least important if it
1:21:52
seems spurious or not legitimate we'll just take it out yeah so um you know again if people can
1:21:58
be in touch with us uh at uh siriusdisclosure.com s-i-r-i-u-s-disclosure.com
1:22:05
if you have this kind of evidence archive material um it will be handed off hand to hand
1:22:12
from me to these folks who are trying to get to the bottom of it um now is the time there is a door
open
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how long that door will be open i don't know but i suggest we move through it expeditiously
quickly
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absolutely we just received a video that we put up and it has multiple angles over hawaii of a
massive triangular
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craft and people are shocked and we're going to send that over to you and among other uh
evidence from the public that i
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think the the people on your end might be interested in and uh we'll be keeping in touch i know
again hopefully more
1:22:45
hearings we just uh finished the documentary that we're on location within we're in the process
of the edit
1:22:51
while we're there in arizona and people are going to be blown away there's the phenomenon
was captured
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and including right now above top secret which is uh breaking records right now on amazon
prime and it's on the front
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page and it's uh it's being picked up and i i even think the congress people watched that that we
could hear their
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questions to the eyewitnesses i think they were a little briefed or deep or brief buyer
documentary so that's a good
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thing uh dr greg resafe we'll talk to you soon appreciate it thank you keep with the good work all
right thanks
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everyone okay bye-bye we'll see ya bye-bye see ya