Presentation on Memorandum Circular 2022-049 by Ms.

Allen Faith Cape

Allen Faith Cape: So palakpakan po natin si Ms. Bern all the way from region 10 at mag ingat
kayo jan at maraming salamat for that very informative presentation. So mabuhay
yung *inaudible* uulitin ko po yung sinabi ni Bern na bibigyan niya kayo ng copy ng
presentation at copy ng requirements at very important po na makakuha kayo ng copy at yung
copy din po ng memorandum circular which is readily available online. So mamaya na po yan
after ng event. So please reserve your questions for later as we have an open forum as I know
that you have questions stored already. At this moment, let us hear our speaker who will talk
about another NC 2022009, or the enhanced guidelines on the conduct of decentralization and
constitution reform program under the center for local and constitutional reform, to be presented
by the supervising project officer for operations of the center of local and constitutional reform,
or the CLCO, let us give a hand for Ms Allen Faith Kape. Ms Allen, good morning. So ayun po,
bago mag present si Maam Allen, I think Ms Bern has to do an urgent tasks po today so kung
meron na po kayong questions na pwede niyang sagutin habang kasama pa po natin siya? We
have a mic sa center which you can approach, just state your name and organization para
maaddress ni Ms Bern ang inyong mga katangunan.

Audience member 1: *inaudible* National po yung scope ng kampo namin, and we have already
organized several regions dito sa pilipinas. Ito pong accreditation namin was right after last year,
although, since covid happened, we’ve had meetings with *inaudible* as our chairman, at tayo
din po ang *inaudible* SInce ito po yung kalawakan ng organization namin, may mga
irregularities po, aaminin ko po, ang leaders namin ay nagkaroon ng complaints from DILG, and
i have not been able to pass up these problems, and since were going to renew this 2022, medjo
busy lahat sa elections. Ngayon po na magpaparenewal kami ng accreditation namin, ito pong
mga application namin or requirements dun po ba kami babagsak sa minimum requirements, or
do we need to comply sa additional requirements for strictly renewal purposes. Note that our
purpose is solely federalism and constitutional reform. Although voluntary kami, our campaign
is ongoing on constitutional reform. SInce there have been no resolutions, sinusunod parin namin
yung mga MOA between our CSO and DILG. So, yun po. Sa itong ginagawa namin since
voluntary, since ginagawa pa namin ang aming activities, but voluntary since wala pa kaming
narenew, still we are pursuing this activity of constitutional reform.

Allen Faith Cape: Requesting echo from the secretariat.

Moderator: Please summarize your question due to internet abnormalities.

Audience member 1: Sa application namin sa renewal lang, renewal lang, kung may mga
problema since may mga regional sa nakita ko, ito pong urban na ang situation, we could do
enhance with DILG para mapasa yung mga problems dahil nationwide po yung activity namin,
gumagawa na po ang aming mga tao from region 1 to 18. From Mindanao po ako, andito po ako
sa Luzon dahil isa nalang po yung kulang which is region 1. Alam na po ni *inaudible*. Ang
ano ko lang po ay beyond na po sa aking control ang irregularities pero alam ko naman po ang
pag settle ko ng mga problema na yan. Ang akin lang po, ay pagkatapos ng meeting natin ay mas
maganda po sana na per region na cooperation with the regional offices, dahil sa pagkakakita ko
po ay parang itong federal lang po lamang ang may scope ng national accreditation, proceeding
this constitutional reform. So yun lang po, maraming salamat.

Allen Faith Cape: Im sorry po I didnt get your name? Mahina po ang signal sa region 10.
However, i will address your question. Mr Edgardo, maraming salamat po sa question, so yung
mga requirements po natin for renewal ay nakaindicate naman po sa ating NC again the NC
naman po ay mabibigay by the CLCR PLO later on. Yung requirements po for renewal is also
discussed *inaudible*. Yung accreditation po ninyo ay Im not aware if you are accredited po sa
amin as of the moment, I think wala, since wala po akong nabasa na uni fed sa aaming listahan.
However, as you have mentioned earlier, kayo naman po ay on a voluntary basis, so apat lang
naman po ang need ninyo ipasa saamin, and if all the documents have been submitted, and it will
suffice sa CLCRs review, madali lang po ang process. Last 2021 po. Ill check po kasi nasa DILG
naman po yung ating list. Yun po pala, if you want to check your current accreditation status,
you can go to DILG.gov.ph, nakalagay naman po siya doon. Medjo mahina po kasi yung internet
ko dito sa, wait lang po Ill check.

Moderator: Alright, so habang hinahanap ni Ms Bern regarding Sir’s question, may we remind
the next askers to go straight to the question because Ms Bern ay merong need asikasuhin sa
region 10. Pa inform nalang po kami if ok na.

Allen Faith Cape: Ito po ba yung sa uni fed paragraph?

Moderator: Yes daw po.

Allen Faith Cape: Ok so yung Uni Fed paragraph, ang validity po ng inyong accreditation ay
hanggang December 21 2021 lamang po. So yes po, you are subject for renewal sa amin, and
yung documentary requirements for your renewal will be subjected to NC 2022005, pakicheck
nalang po yung corresponding section for that. However, since meron na po kayong prior
certification or accreditation sa amin, you can give us yung mismong documents na kailangang
kailangan. If nairush po kanina yung date for the application, just check po yung renewal at mag
navigate po kayo sa renewal process.

Audience member 1: Ok po, thank you.

Moderator: can we have our next question? Yes sir. Meron na pong next question for our
audience.

Audience member 2: Thank you sir, Good morning Maam Vern. My name is Troy *inaudible*
The national president of Good Clean for Society Movement. My question is this. I just learned
today that the life of the accreditation is 5 years?

Allen Faith Cape Hello po Sir Troy. Yes po, 5 years po yung maximum pero depende po doon sa
inyong engagement with the CLCR. Ang CLCR po will recommend, also your application will
aslo, need niyo po kasi ilagay doon sa application form ninyo kung gaano katagal ninyo gustong
ico implement yung program. So meron po saating form A kung inyong bibisitahin po, meron po
doong validity period, so once na ilagay niyo po hanggang 2021 lang kami, hanggang 2021 lang
kayo maaccredit. Pero yung maximum po natin is 5 years, pero depende parin po ito sa inyong
attachments. For example po, you are only registered sa sec hanggang 2024, then bawal po kayo
hanggang 2025, at hanggang 2024 lang po kayo. So depende po sa inyong isusubmit na
documents.

Audience member 2: May I know Maam the life of our accreditation, *inaudible* because i
remember the certificate that we received states no period of existence. It just says accredited but
it does not state the end or expiration of our accreditation. Can you tell us when is the expiration
of our accreditation?

Allen Faith Cape: Sorry I didnt get that, Ano po yung kailangan ni sir? Baka pwedeng itype
nalang sa chat?

Audience member 2: Ganito po yun maam, gusto ko po malaman expiration ng accreditation

namin
Sa *inaudible* po ano?
Audience member 2: Yes po,
Allen Faith Cape: Na expire po yung inyong accreditation last december 31 2021 po.
Audience member 2: Ok, now, kasi dun sa binigay ninyong certification, it does not state any life
or period of existence, yun ang tanong ko. Now paano niyo nasabi or bakit niyo nasabi na
December 31 2021 lang, what was your basis in granting us that period? Because I dont
remember signing any period of validity. In all the documents I signed, there were none that
showed that I applied for a period of validity, kaya nagtaka ako kung bakit hanggang 2021 lang.
Is that a policy of the department?
Allen Faith Cape: I think your query will be addressed by the CLCR PMO kasi yung CLCR po
yung magrerecommend po samin kung hanggang kailan lang po yung certification of
accreditation, so sila po yung inyong tanungin. Hindi po kami. Kami po ay sa secretariat lang, so
yung finoforward saamin ng inyong partner PMO, yun po ang ilalagay namin sa lahat ng
communications namin papunta kay secretary. So, may I request the CLCR to address the
question of Sir *inaudible*?

Audience member 2: Last question, how can we avail of the 5 year existence?

Allen Faith Cape: Ok sir, so yung pag avail ng 5 years ay again dedepende po sa inyong
application and depende po sa inyong partner PMO. If they recommend na yung inyong
partnership with them will be 5 years, and they are sure that in those 5 years ay merong fund si
PMO, then wala pong problema samin, we will accredit you as long as you give us the sufficient
data and documents for your accreditation.

Moderator: thank you po, lets have our last question for Ms Bern.

Audience member 3: Ms Bern, my name is *inaudible* the national chairperson of the

movement for federalism, and *inaudible*. Actually, the ending of our accreditation as stated in
our certificate was december 21 of 2021, and then, on that particular day, I think that was
January, Im not so sure, I received an email from Pam, it was asking us if we are going to renew
our accreditation, and I submitted our intent but with that letter of yours from there is
a *inaudible* DILg and we have been asked to choose based on *inaudible* right? So now my
question Ms Berns is does that *inaudible* still on or are we gonna have another problem?
Because that program did not actually exist, because of the elections. Now you sent us some
files, so *inaudible* but *inaudible* we did not renew for 2022 and that statement, or that
document contained that *inaudible* because of the I think of the elections. So that is my
question.
Allen Faith Cape: Requesting nalang po ako sa secretariat to type the question.
Speaker 3: Ako nalang po ang sasagot. So from last January nag send po kasi kami to check if
yung mga interested mag renew, however, with the new memorandum we had to take a pause sa
paghingi ng requirements. Kasi po hinintay po namin yung bagong memorandum circular na
iapprove, at ngayon na naapprove na at may panibago, naisip na po namin mag conduct on
orientation, at tapos na po ang elections, at may bago na po, para isang direction nalang po tayo.
At ngayon na po tayo mag aacreddit ulit. Pag nagkaroon na po kayo ng requirements, ready na
po siya, ready na po ulit tayong mag submit after the orientation, at pakinggan nalang po natin si
Ms Arren regarding the guidelines ng CLCR as mentioned by Ms Bern, meron pa po kaming
mga gustong iparating sa mga bagong programa ng CLCR, kasi baka po interested kayo sa mga
programa ng Mandanas decentralization, maari niyo pong makuha or mag participate sa
programa na iyon. Thank you Ms Aida.
Moderator: Thank you Ms Bern, again maraming salamat, mag ingat ka jan at salamat sa
pagsagot sa mga tanong.
Allen Faith Cape: Thank you din po. Sana makakita ng maraming applications from CSOs or
CLCR. Salamat po sa lahat.
Moderator: if you have more questions, we have another Q and A later. Sa pagpapatuloy po, we
will talk about the memorandum circular number 2022049, or the enhanced guidelines on the
conduct of decentralization and constitutional reform program under CLCR. Ms Allen, again
palakpakan po natin siya.

Speaker 3: Hello po, magandang umaga po saating lahat. Hindi ko na po papatagalin pa, Id like
to greet of course our guests for today, director Marlo Guanzon from PAX po, magandang
uamga, the national chairperson of CORE movement, magandang umaga, our Chief sa CLCR
PMO, Ms Pamella *inaudible*, earlier kasama po natin ang chief of staff ng office of
the *inaudible* Barangay affairs, Maam Cecille Quan, at ang mga kasama natin na CSOs na
nagkita kita na po tayo ulit, after the longest time na puro nalang tayo documents na sinesend at
puro text at chat, pero ngayon po magkakasama na po tayong lahat at last. *inaudible* Na
preview na po ni Ms. Paam, sa revised memorandum circular of the CLCR, which talks about the
enhanced guidelines on the conduct of decentralization and constitutional reform program, under
the center for local and constitutional reform. So, sa mga partners po nating CSO since 2018, I
believe we know the office as CLCR before, but now its called CLCR, so we will be discussing
through, I will be sharing the changes on the mandate of the office, Paano po naging Local and
constitutional reform na po tayo, not just federalism and core. So let me start with the
background of this memorandum circular, this was recently approved just this year po april 25
2022. By former secretary Eduardo Ano, and just a runthrough of the milestones of the transition
of this mandate, In 2018, DILG memorandum was signed, 2018-79, which was issued may 25
2018, ito po yung naprovide na guidelines ng implementation ng federalism related information
and *inaudible* campaign with then CLCR. Ito po yung engaged satin noong 2018, ito po yung
memorandum circular na nagguide sa office kung ano yung mga mandato at policy ng opisina. In
2018 as well, the office of the president issued memorandum circular no 52, on december 31,
which established IATF on federalism and constitutional reform, composed of different agencies,
and convene to plan out or compose amendments for the 1987 constitution. IATF issued a
resolution in 2019-01 which pushed for surgical amendments in the 1987 constitution, which
paved way for Federalism, ngayon naging *inaudible* proposals na po siya, or social
amendments of the 1987 constitution, which is *inaudible* constitutional reform. So from 2018,
federalism related activities ay nagshift from core to constitutional reform in 2019. So this also
paved way for the resolution for both houses no 2, which aimed to amend specific provisions in
the 1987 constitution, this is due to the effects of the pandemic, in 2020, so with the help of the
committee on the constitutional amendments in the HOR, it was passed in the 3rd reading, and is
being discussed in the Senate by the chairperson of constitutional amendments, by of course,
Senator Robin Padilla. Lastly, ito na po tayo ngayon, naging CLCR na po tayo ngayon, Center
for LOcal and constitutional reform, because of this MC, which expanded not only on federalism
and others, but of course on local proposals and amendments as well. I will continue siguro for
the purpose of our time, for the purpose of this MC, this MC identified the functions and
responsibilities of the CLCR PMO. As you all know, this MC will lay down that CLCR can be
involved in activities not only on CORE or federalism, but on other aspects which is anchored on
the mandate of the whole department. THis will also direct the regional offices to take a
proactive role, and participation in implementing the projects of the office. So sino sino po ang
mga covered ng MC na ito? Of course, the DILG offices from the central to the regional office,
to the field offices po, that are involved in the advocacy campaign, of course the LGUs that we
partner in providing or conducting the activities and of course the DILG accredited CSOs, which
are our partners in the field, especially in the grass roots level, Masyado pong malawak ang reach
ninyo sa inyong area, that is whythis will also cover you when you want to partner with us in
implementing activities. Of course, other government offices and NGOs. So now I will discuss
on the policy content and guidelines of the CLCR PMO, kung saan na po ang scope ng opisina
ngayon sa Mandato ng advocacy. So research projects, policy guidelines, studies and
publications, now involve on the devolution, decentralization, local reforms, and of course,
constitutional reforms, and futures thinking. Dati po, nasa constitutional reform lang ang scope
ng opisina, but now it is expanded to devolution, which is why we are involved in activities such
as in the launching or meron pong nakalineup na activities on the devolution transition plan in
cooperation with the other DILG offices, and in the LGC po meron pong nakalineup ang opisina.
And of course, if you are familiar with thinking and futures, ang office po ay naka line up na sa
mga activities. Next is the reformation education and communications advocacy campaign, ang
opisina po ay naka mandato to conduct capacity development for strategic foresight, and
partnerships with NGOs, currently we have alot of partnerships, not just the local or national
LGUs, but also international LGUs, naka partner po kami sa LCR, also we have nationwide
information and dissemination campaign on local reforms and decentralization and full
devolution, ito po yung sa mandanas ruling and constitutional reforms. So eto po yung sa
nationwide information campaign, involved po natin dito ang mga regions and even to the field
of *inaudible*, na ginagawa po natin ang ating mga activities. And lastly, the *inaudible*
materials, that are produced by the office, down to the field of *inaudible* in partnership with
pax, nagpproduce po tayo ng mga *inaudible* at collateral sa mga regions. And of course, we
have line advertisements and digital and social media platforms that we utilize in order to reach a
wider scope of people to know more about the campaign. Dont worry, magsesend naman po
kami ng copy ng powerpoint. Down to my last slides, hopefully mahabol siya. Alright, sige po.
So just an update, I believe familiar *inaudible* from last year, kung naano niyo po ang DILG
po was engaged in our show *inaudible*, and that was very useful and productive in the effort
of the DILG during the pandemic. And of course, sa pamumuno po ng office ng PAX ni director
Banzon, na utilize or namaterialize po. *inaudible* this year, of course with Ms Pam, and Ms
Jam, and Director Guanzon, this year hopefully ma materialize ang ating media platforms para
mas marami po ang makaalam ng ating advocacies. Our partnership and collaboration. So sa MC
po, CLCR is mandated to act as general secretariat fo the inter agency task force on
constitutional reform. So we have always been tasked to do secretariat every time may
nagcoconvene ang IATF core, at since hindi naman ito na revoke, the IATF still stands, and
hopefully we can convene again on the direction of the new administration of the new campaign.
Also, the CLCR, kaya po nag bunga yung RBH 2, because we have been active in lobbying in
congress for the proposed amendments of the 1987 constitution. Ito po yung ating efforts para
mapush yung mga yung surgical amendments. But meron na po tayong additional because of the
MC, now naexpound na po siya, also the local government code, and other related laws under the
oversight designated department legislative lioson officers, nagbibigay na po tayo ng proposals
sa house and sa senate po. And Now, because of this, as mentioned earlier, kasama na po tayo sa
pag report ng department on devolution and decentralization, so we provide a system to be LGD,
BLGS, SLGP, and the planning surveys, and the department for *inaudible* full devolution,
decentralization, core and other related programs. So this year, marami na po tayogn naka lineup
sa DDP, may partnership po with BLGD, and other related activities. And Lastly, the partnership
and collaboration, the office is mandated to establish partnerships with our accredited partners,
ang ating mga CSOs, para mas malawak at mas maging effective ang ating kampanya. Not just
on core, but also on accreditation and other related programs. Lastly, for the activities, regional
and field levels po, the office is mandated to conduct information drive, townhall meetings or
orientations, briefings, or workshops, on the implementation of the Mandanas ruling, core, etc.
This year, marami na tayong naconduct, this year we have conducted the information drive, in
time for the election, and naka lineup po saatin ngayon yung mga orientation and meetings ng
regions in terms of DDP and CORE. Lastly, in coordination sa discussion earlier ni Ms Bern on
MC 2022-005, of course the CLCR is very welcoming to all the CSOs who would want to be
accredited and partner with us in conducting the activities, for this year and upcoming years. So,
ayun lamang po, ang aking discussion at mabilis lang dahil we would like to give time as well as
for the open forum, I know marami po kayong katangunan, but *inaudible*. Thank you sir. ]

1:02:05:
1st Speaker: Ayan, Thank you Ms Allen, tingnan niyo nga naman, kahit nawalan ng koryente si
Ms Allen, ay naexplain niya parin ang MC na dapat niyo pong malaman. So, this is the time for
our open forum, so if we have any questions, I think we will be joined again by Ms Allen, Ms
Pam, and also, *inaudible* will answer some of your questions. So sir, let us begin, meron po
tayong mic sa center. Ms Pam, Ms Allen, and *inaudible* will answer your questions.

Audience member 3: I am a member of the national *inaudible* for reform, our advocacy is
federalism. Main core ayun. I just wanted to clarify since im sure that all of us here are
federalism advocates. And federalism is very different from the Mandanas ruling, and for our
what seems to be is the crust of the DILG now, regarding the projects and so on. We just want to
clarify if whether or not we are going to put into the backburner ang federalism and push for the
new advocacies of DILG regarding the Mandanas ruling, since ang Mandanas ruling naman
provides only for a percent of the income from the taxes and so on, and the notion has been there
since the beginning of our constitution, and the passing of the local government code, which was
fathered by senator *inaudible*. Anjan na yan, hindi lang talaga na implement ng tama, in fact,
teachers and nurses and doctors noon ay *inaudible* noong araw. Federalism is very different,
when you have the State, you have your own income, you will contribute sa national. That is
very different. So the project will be different, and the implementation will be different. But still,
we are hoping that we should consider and not let go of our push for federalism. Mukhang
mawawala siya pagdating dito. Thank you very much.,

Also, can i have a follow up on that question, Im Arnel Fortes the secretary general of the D for
movement for federalism. I would just like to add to what Noel has been saying, because in the
ultimate analysis, we have not seen any quantitative measures given or provided by DILG, sad to
say, we are always saying ok, core, because before federalism, but now we are on the core
surgical. What does it mean for us it is a new perfectuation of the present situation, because if we
just implement the Mandanas ruling, that is not solving the problem. Nangyari na noong
pandemic at nakita natin ang problema, ang presidente ay namomroblema kung paano uutang ng
pera. But if federalism yan, we have states who will think about the solution. Konti palang, they
can solve it. Hindi yung presidente, at kokontrahin ng iba, and if you do that using just surgical,
sabi nga ni CJ *inaudible*, that is not a solution. Devolution has been *inaudible*. That is said
by Senator Coco Pimentel the father of the Local Government Code. Look at DSWD, binaba
niyo sa national dati, binaba ang agriculture, ano nangyari? Nagkaleche leche din. So ang
ginagawa pagdating sa senate, sasabihin o sa congress, pinasa sa congress ang federalism. Pag
dating sa senate, *inaudible*, dahil masasagasaan interes nila. Come to think of it, bakit nanalo
si Robin Padilla? Because of Federalism. 25M yan resounding. Bakit nanalo si Sara at BBM?
Dahil BBM ran under the banner of federalism, not nationalism. So ano yung ibig sabihin ng
tao? Gusto nila ang federalism, ayaw na nila itong surgical. So the change that the DILG is
instead of moving forward, is moving backwards. So yun ang nangyayari ngayon, bukas, the
civil society group, we have been advocating for federalism, the equalization, to equalize,
*inaudible*, but not, to be a dictator. So yan ang ating konsepto. But now it appears, that the
DILG, sad to say, is back tracking. If you review all of the policies and memos, that these are
two different things. Center for Constitutional reform, *inaudible*, why? Whats the problem? Its
just the economic provisions, you are just perpetrating the oligarchy with this surgical. But if we
listen to the statement of sen padilla, he is advocating for a people’s initiative. Nadaan nila sa
congress yang lahat, but many people, not spontaneous galing pang edsa revolution, kaya nag
nationwide. Nagsimula sa mga taong bayan at ipaliwanag natin, because it is much better,
federalism is much better than this core. Kasi, yang mandanas doctrine ok. But if you come to
think of it, by quantitative analysis, imeasure niyo yung metrics niyo, yung noon at ngayon.
Wala ding pagbabago yan. I was also with government, so we know for a fact what is happening.
So, our idea here is how can the civil society group help DILG in a way that it would be more
beneficial, not only *inaudible*, because if we do that, then ok, we can meet, we can zoom,
everything, but there is no, i dont know if you are coordinating your legislative office or liaison
is coordinating with the office with Senator Padilla, because the problem with federalism is not
the house, but the senate, because if they go to the senate, the senators say *inaudible* yan.
Bakit? Eh kasi, most of the senators have no constituency, local or estate constituency, so
mahihirapan sila. So thats why, *inaudible* movement for federalism. We have been advocating
for this long before Duterte became president of the republic, we have been advocating for it. In
Feb of 14, before we put it, we called it tanod ng langit social movement, that it revolutionizes
d4, which stands for dignity, density, dignity, and development. That is my actually my question
for the DILG. How far should we go with this thing, will we really only *inaudible* or is there a
need for us to overrule the system? Because I think even the president would welcome it. It is
just that we do not present the complete picture. Yung nangyayari is ito, then kalahati ito, then
economic provisions. The problem is actually with the constitution, and the allocation of
resources. Pag inallocate mo yan ng pare parehas, pati yung mga mahihinang region, lagyan mo
ng equalization fund, you equalize everything. The product of *inaudible* is very elucidating, or
informative on this manner. So, that is actually my question. So that is why I ask that is if I can
speak because the statement of director Gonzales, is pwede niyang sagutin yan. *inaudible*,
thank you very much.

Speaker 3: Pa expect nalang po ng mahabang sagot din

Audience member 4: *inaudible* Ako po si Ed *inaudible*, Ako po yung vice chairperson ng

*inaudible*. Ito lang po ano, noong nagkaroon kami ng core, nag umpisa ito noong January
2020, nung nagkarebranding ng itong federalism, kasi itong federalism, hindi masyadong
napansin at maraming hadlang. Kaya itong CORE, *inaudible* na this is the steps towards
federalism. So ngayon, sa mga sagot sa mga elemento, na andun yung mga ano, kasi sabi ni
Pangulong Duterte na ayaw niya na sa Federalism. Kaya doon tayo sa core. Kaya, nagkaroon
kami ng series of virtual meetings *inaudible*, two years, so that maliwanag natin sa mga nasa
media kaya lang yung sa *inaudible* wala masyado. *inaudible* dahil, itong napagkaalaman,
itong federalism, it takes generations to happen. So ngayon, dito sa core, actually, ang tanong ko,
yung sa core ba ay tuloy parin ang empowering the region? Yung Political *inaudible*
magkakaroon ba ng reformation? Yung itong economic *inaudible* mayroon bang reform?
Yung sa *inaudible*, actually meron na, so yung tanong ko Maam, ito ba, yung referendum
natin, will happen anytime before 2025? So itong surgical amendments, parang ano lang ito,
yung principle of federalism. Kung iconsider natin itong Pilipinas yung archipelagic ba,
*inaudible* so pag nakita ng *inaudible* na itong core, ito yung steps natin towards federalism,
federalism is changing the entire provision, dahil *inaudible* yung constitution, itong core is
revision of accepted provisions ng ating constitution, and then ito na ngayon yung tatanggal
sakanila dahil mayroon silang unang una, federalism, which is Robin Padilla, ito yung
pinanghawakan niya na chairmanship. Tapos ito namang nasa core, so paano po natin
ipapaliwanag po saamin, yung agenda natin ngayon? Yung issue natin sa constitutional reform.
Thank you.

Audience member 5: Napakaganda ng ating discussion. Ito yung tinatawag natin na

constitutional reform, or amendments to the constitution. Actually, pareho na silang dalawa.
Walang pinagkaiba. Yung sinasabi nating constitutional amendments or constitutional reform,
pareho lang po yang dalawang yan. Politically, minsan hindi pakinggan yung amendments.
However, we just want to reform it. Ngayon, babalikan po natin yung sa, ano ba yung
federalism. Yun po ang ating ultimate goal. Yun lang po, for clarification. Sinunog po natin ang
punong constitution, 2018 ginawa na nating *inaudible*.

Moderator: Do we have any other questions?

Audience member 3: Thank you for the clarification, at wala paring federalism doon eh. But
when we push for that reform that were seeing, to reform the constitution, we will only be
dealing with few of the provisions, so it is not entirely revising, because tama yung sinabi noong
isa eh, matagal yung proseso ng federalism. Pero kung hindi natin sisimulan, kailan? Diba? Kaya
yun yon. Paano mo ipapanganak kung hindi ka naman buntis? Even if the baby should come, 9
months after, but you have to begin. Hindi ko naman kinokontra yung approach natin, and before
of everything, since andiyan lahat yan eh. We are here to help the government, the DILG, to mix
the programs, to *inaudible*, including the NGOs, andiyan but in our move to push this reform,
we have to also include the awakening of the masses, in becoming federalism. Kasi, tama naman
yung sinabi ng ating pinaghalo halo na *inaudible*, talagang mataas kasi yung discussion ng
federalism eh. Mataas eh. But always, politics is *inaudible*. It is local. So if we talk about
federalism regarding local, that concerns our stomach, then we will reach the masses. Yoon ang
kailangan natin, kasi *inaudible* sa mga nakakita from Cavite, na tinatakbo yung kaniyang may
sakit ng ambulansya to PGH. Bakit? *inaudible*. Bakit? *inaudible* Bakit ang mga tao nandito
sa Metro Manila? Kasi walang business sa labas. Walang development sa labas, and 40 percent
of the Mandanas ruling will not make it. *inaudible* kaya iba iba dapat ang approach eh. Ano
yung kabuhayan mo sa probinsya? Ano yung sinasahod mo roon? Ano yung medical assistance
na narereceive mo? This is very near to all our hearts, this is talking about our stomach. Anong
education ng ating mga anak? Ano yung nakakarating na edukasyon sakanila? But in federalism,
we contain the provisions ng inyong mga funds doon sa certain limited area. Mas malaki siya.
Mas malaki ang programs na magagawa, mas maraming proyekto, ang development ng
infrastructures, telecommunications, if you have several *inaudible*, saan pupunta ng ating mga
nurses? Di lalabas yan. May trabaho dito eh. Maraming bagay ang magagawa ng federalism.
Ang ginawa lang kasi natin, tulad ng unang proposal, masyadong high level yung approach
natin, eh this is all for the intellectuals, but the masses will think of their stomachs. What we
need right now, yun ang dapat matanggap natin. Ayun ang ibibigay natin sakanila, kung
paguusapan natin ang federalism. Hindi dahil sa constitution na babaguhin natin, magiging
ganito, pagdating sa aktuwal na labanan doon, doon palang paguusapan yung mga voters, yung
mga taxes, pero pag pinaliwanag sa mga tao, kung ano yung kagandahan ng federalism, kung
bakit mas maganda ito kaisa sa existing, hindi ko naman kinokontra, since papunta tayo doon,
but wag natin iwanan yung federalism. Dapat isabay natin habang pinupush natin yung core,
ipush din natin yung federalism. Wag nating iwanan. Kailangan mas bigyan natin ng emphasis
kung bakit papunta na tayo doon. Ayun lang ang akin.

Moderator: thank you

Audience member: Ito po ano, ito po sa core, andoon na po yung lahat ng *inaudible*. Tandaan
ninyo, empowering the region, providing the needs of every local government na maliit, kasi
agribyado yung mga LGU, kaya may provision na dinagdag doon sa section 10, na lahat ng mga
local government units na maliliit, binigyan sila ng pondo depending on their financial needs. So,
in general, ang ginagawa natin sa core is empowering the region, pagyaman ng probinsya,
*inaudible*, empowering the region, atsaka electoral and political reforms ay nasa agenda parin
natin sa core. So ayun lang po, kasi dito na magkakaroon ng federalism kasi revising the 1987
constitution, it will be surgically changed hanggang mapunta tayo doon sa federalism, which is
our goal. And in dito naman, could it be possible na para ma *inaudible* si Senator Padilla,
magkaroon ng, Im sure normal na ngayon, Im sure kahit 5 million signature campaign, maybe
we can do it this year, magtulongan ang mga *inaudible*, and we will make a series of
information drive dito sa core, kasi madali mapaliwanag eh. Ito yung expert namin sa federal,
Luzon Visayas Mindanao. Nagkaroon kami ng virtual conference, na official na, in fact, region
13 *inaudible*, itong pinaka mataas na kasambit kami ng signature campaign more than 100
thousand. Kaya itong, ako’y nasa luzon at ituloy na natin ito ang sinasabi ni sir kanina, kailan
natin gagawin? Kung hindi natin gagawin ito, kailan? Sino? So this is the right time for us para
marealize yung federalism at para maabot ang federalism.

Moderator: Last na daw po since kakain na tayo

Audience member 3: I would like to add, that the problem sa sinabi ni National Chairperson ng
core, na kung bakit ang ginawa nila CJ Puno ay hindi puro umusad ng ganon. Nagkamali po kasi
ng tactic, at inamin po iyan ni chief justice. Ang problema po kasi ay meron pong 565 Million
something na hindi nagamit na pera. Ang constitutional committee, why? Dahil they made a
technical mistake. Noong nagawa na kasi yung federalism constitution natin, sinubmit nila sa
house. So noong sinubmit nila, *inaudible* ang opisina nila. So wala na, so under COA rules,
bawal na gumamit since wala na kayo. Since ang conditions ni President Duterte, ito kayo. Ito
hanggang sa makapag drop kayo ng constitution. Sa pagmamadali nila, sinubmit nila sa
congress. Nakalimutan nilang umikat ng husto. Sinabi nga ni CJ, if we had just given it time, we
could have explained to the people. Kaya ang sinabi ni Senator Padilla, yun yung ginamit niya sa
campaign. Si BBM at Sara, yun din, but hindi direct na tinumbok iyon, no amount of
constitutional, but tingnan natin sa simula palang, sa 1987 constitution at sa nauna before that,
mahirap po mag amend diyan, at ang inaano na provision sa constitution ay para lang po doon sa
oligarchy, at sa naghaharing uri, so paano po tayong mga maliliit? Bakit hindi lumulusot yung
anti-dynasty bill? Dahil ang mga member ng congress ay pami-pamilya iyan! Mayor, governor,
what have you, pinapatulan. At kung tinuloy po natin iyan it will be a vicious cycle, ikot lang ng
ikot, same result. Bakit hindi po natin isuggest, but the core movement could be an umbrella of
all people of all, not only organizations who would like to have a meaningful reform, by
federalism, paano? Tulungan natin. Parang sa infrastructure, PPA. So *inaudible* a foundation
to create the funds na hindi palaging manggagaling sa gobyerno. Kung galing sa gobyerno,
iipitin agad. *inaudible* So ano ang ibig kong sabihin? This idea we have floated to senator
padilla and to CJ Puno. Mind you, maybe in the forthcoming months, they would get to have a
meeting with another country. Hindi lang sa senado, kasi kanino mapupunta sa senado? Edi doon
sa may pera? Edi ilagay natin sa probinsiya, every city in the province. So ang aking ano dito sa
core, pwede ba ang core ang maging court room, kayo na po ang mag ano, since kayo na ang
may connection eh, pati sa barangay level. Why is the civil society organizations like to
*inaudible* nationwide, but we cannot do it really, unlike if we had the core, the DILG, as the
lead agencies doing this, an umbrella, wag na nating diinan kung ano, basta yung parang dito
nalang lahat, parang yan ang basket, of this change, because otherwise, pag *inaudible* ng
approach natin, it will not serve the purpose, sad to say, but tingnan natin, walang naging
successful. Kahit po iyong devolution under the local government, hanggang po ngayon, wala
pong nangyayari because devolution is not the solution, but it is the equalization. Yun lang po.
Maraming salamat po.
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