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NAA: MP729/6, 12/401/214

Series number: MP729/6

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Specification for Field Gunnery Tests and Proof of Armament of Tanks AC 3 and AC 4
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LeLieut. Guest.Herevith, please find two copies, for your informationt the Minutes of eeting held at the officeM51/I_ »-,_A Major,P 1 _\,‘ 5- D.A.F.V.-ig - alxlfiq ~;\f" /I 5_ 19 APR 1.044 ~; .--11% :1“ ,,,__,_‘ ll“ r_7_ Ii, M-<10
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to. /pt’.MOST @<8R£Tlooting mm at the office of D.A-F.V- "Redhol'sie",KensingtonYarra on 26/3/45 at 1430 hours. ,SPECIFICATION FOR FIELD GUINERY TESTS AND PROOFOF ARIAHEHT OF TANKS A.C-III AND
A.C.IVPRESENT: Colonel Smith )Iajor Forrest ) I.G.H.Kr. Cuzens )Major Northey ) D. of A.Lieut.Guest )Major Flight )Major Vernon ) DsA.F.V.Lieut.Leworthy )Major Forrest stated proof of all guns is ootered by specif-ication
and proof of carriages and mounting are controlled by generalfor proof of tank mountings.In reply to Colonel Smith, Major Forrest stated that he con-sidered that every mount need not be proofed, but 31351
reouperatorshould be proofed. Additional information on proofing of armament wasnot safely be cut down.Colonel Smith stressed that all proofs should be carried outbefore being installed in tank, so as not to hang up tank
production.Major Forrest to look into this aspect.It was agreed:-’ (a) Proofing of gun mountingsdo not cone into gunnerytrials.(b)(0)Engraving of sights pre pior to gunnery trials.Endurance trials being done on A.C.III, at
PortWakefield will cover the 54' turret ring, butsimilar proof will have to be carried out on 17pdt. with 70' ring. Ho further proof will benecessary on 70' ring mounting 25 pdr. _Iajor Ferr st will be prepared to carry out accuracy
trialsany practical comments.J Endurance Trial: 'lininu number of rounds to be 1000 E.F-C. with a naxilnI/’ 7'1; > ‘ $7-, /\\specification, but there was no specification grailable for tank mountings. pColonel Smith and Major
Forrest will subit draft specification4\coming fron England: with the object of saving labor, but the shortenedrecoil envolved greater strain, therefore the proofoh. muuplrttbrs couldreas laid down and submit necessary
progran of fireage. Report to include. ‘A
IoJoi\= 4‘ 2. MOST n of proof rounds.lajer Forrest asked for indication of priority of trial. '' 4~SPLASH TRIALS.1. (a) Sglash Entrlz It was agreed these tests should cover usings.A. fire and recording splash entry on cards-(b)
Fraggent Damage: Tanks to be tested to ascertain damage dueto fragments from H.E. burst on vulnerable parts.2. T'll.!‘I‘6‘l7 ring_prote5:.tor and nantlet.These tests to be carried out using S.A. fire and
anti—tankweapons.5. ' Ability of parts etc. to stand impact.Tests to include M.G. fire and anit-tank weapons.Test AreaMajor Forrest considered that the Tank Gunnery School range kwas a suitable location for these trials.
_Colonel Smith suggested and it was agreed that, all branches J§%of Army directly interested to be requested to dend competent observers kiyto trials. l a/mt.FOR - D.A.F.V.",1 K81‘; '45e5»-,1\./» i ' A 4
 .1 o. ""57 SW57‘ ?~ of looting held at the office of D.A.F.V. Redholne",Konei!+tonSouth Yarra on 26/3/45 at 1480 hours. '1SUBJECT: SPECIFIGATIOI FOR FIELD GUINERY TESTS AID PROOF .OF LRIAIEIT OF
TANKS A-C-III AID A.C.IVPRESENT: Oolonel Smith )llajor Forrest ) I.G.ll. =lr. Gnsens )nwn-.2“Major Ierthey ) D. of A.Lieut.Guestauger Flight gsdsrIa or Vernon D.A.F.V. }“I-ieut.l.ewerthy 1lajor Forrest stated proof of all
guns is ooaered by spool!‘-ioation and proof of carriages and mounting are oontrolled by general ,speoifioation, but there was no specification available for ta‘ nount s.pk ins‘lg Colonel lth and llajer Forrest will submit draft
specification; for proof of tank-nountings.In reply to Colonel Snith, Iajor Forrest stated that he eon-sidered that every mount need not be proofed, but £21 reeuperater1} should be preofed. Additional information on proofing
of arnsnent wascoming from England: with the object of saving labor, but the shortened‘ reeoil enyolved greater strain, therefore the proof on recuperate»! “"14I». not safely be out‘ down._,_f__Colonel Smith stressed that all
proofs should be carried outJ1before being installed in tank, so as not to hang up tank production-_ lajor Forrest to look into this aspect.It was agreed!-(a) Proofing of gun mountingsdo not cone into gunnerytrials.(b)
Engraving of sights ore prior to gunnery trials.(o) Endurance trials being done on A.G. III, at PortWakefield will cover the 54" turret ring, but~ similar proof will have to be carried out on 1'!pelt. with 70" ring. No further proof
will be 'neoessary on '70" ring mounting 26 pir-llajor Forrest will be prepared to oerry out ‘eoouraoy trials submit neoessary program of fireage. _Report to inolvule"'5“10l1 eehents.llnilen number of rounds to be 1-Q0 l ' ' “V '-
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\d_ 11-. 2- “MUST §3?{3RETgroportion of proof rounds; ‘ ’1.2.weapons.3.\ 4 eMajor Forrest asked for indication of priority of trial.SPLASH TRIALS-(a) Sglash Entrl: It was agreed these tests should cover usingS.A. fire
and recording splash entry on cards.(b) Fraggent Damage: Tanks to be tested to ascertain damage dueto tragnents from H.E. burst on vulnerable parts.Turret ring protector and mantlet.These tests to be carried out using
S.A. fire and anti-tankAbility of parts etc. to stand impact.Tests to include “.6. fire and anit-tank weapons.Test Area. -Major Forrest considered that the Tank Gunnery School rangewas a suitable location for these
trials.Colonel Smith suggested and it was agreed that, all branchesof Army directly interested to be requested to lend competent observersto trials.%Ma_1or,~/ Mar-'45.FOR - D-A.F.V.I3: