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6.

002

CIRCUITS AND
ELECTRONICS

Op Amps Positive Feedback

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Negative vs Positive Feedback


Consider this circuit negative feedback
vIN
R1
R2

R1
vIN +
+
R2

+
vOUT = vIN

R1
is
s
ly age
a
an t p
e x
se ne
on
+
R2
vOUT = vIN

R1

and this positive feedback


R2

vIN +

R1

Whats the difference?


Consider what happens when there is a pertubation
Positive feedback drives op amp into saturation:

vOUT VS

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Static Analysis of Positive Feedback Ckt


R2
v IN

v IN +

R1

vOUT

v + R2

R1

vOUT

A(v + v )

vOUT = A(v + v )
= Av +

v vIN

= A OUT
R1 + vIN
R1 + R2

AR1vIN
AR1
vOUT
+ AvIN
R1 + R2
R1 + R2

AR1
R1
=

vOUT 1
v
A
1
IN R + R

R1 + R2
1
2

vOUT

1 R1
R +R
R
1
2
=
AvIN = 2 vIN
R1
AR1
R1 + R2

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Representing dynamics of op amp

v+
+

+
v*

C
(v + v )

vo
+

Av*

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Representing dynamics of op amp


Consider this circuit and lets analyze its
dynamics to build insight.
R2
R1
+

vo

R4

R3
Circuit model
R1

v+
v

R3

vo
A

R2

C
(v + v )

+
v*

+
vo

R4

Lets develop equation representing time


behavior of vo .
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Dynamics of op amp
vo = Av

vo
or v =
A
*

dv* *
RC
+ v = v+ v_
dt

vo R1
+
= vo
R1 + R2
vo R3

vo
v =
=
R3 + R4

v+ =

RC dvo vo
+ = v+ v_
A dt A
+
= ( ) vo
neglect

or

dvo 1
A +
+
+
( ) vo = 0

dt RC RC
dvo
A +
+
( ) vo = 0
dt RC
time 1

or

dvo vo
RC
+ = 0 where T = +
dt T
A( )

vo ( 0 ) = 0
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Consider a small disturbance to vo


(noise).
+

if >

if

if

+
>
+
=
vo

T is positive
vo = K e

t
T

stable

T is negative
vo = K e

t
T

unstable

T is very large
vo = K
neutral
unstable

neutral
stable

disturbance

Now, lets build some useful circuits with


positive feedback.
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One use for instability: Build on the


basic op amp as a comparator
+ VS

v+

vo

VS

+ VS

vo

v+ v

VS

vo

v 0

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Now, use positive feedback


vi

vo

R2

vo R1
v =
R1 + R2
+

v = 7.5

R1

vo = 15

vi

( vi = v ) > 7.5

e.g. R1 = R2
VS = 15

v < v+
v < 7.5

v > 7.5
vo = 15

v = 7.5

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Now, use positive feedback


vi

vo

R2

vo R1
v =
R1 + R2
+

VS R1
v =
R1 + R2
+

R1

vo = +VS

15

vi

( vi = v ) > v +

e.g. R1 = R2
VS = 15

v < v+
v < 7.5

v > 7.5

vo = VS 15 v =

VS R1
R1 + R2

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vo

15

VS

hysteresis
7 .5

Demo

vi

7 .5

15

VS

Why is hysteresis useful?


vi
v
o

e.g., analog
to digital

7.5

t
7.5

Demo
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Without hysteresis

vi
7.5

analog
to digital

vo

vi

t
7 .5

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Oscillator can create a clock


R

vC

vo

R1

vo
2

R1

vo
VS
VS
2

v+
v
vC

VS
2
VS

Demo

v+

Assume

vo = VS
vC = 0

at t = 0

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Clocks in Digital Systems


We built an oscillator using an op amp.

t
can use as a clock
Why do we use a clock in a digital system?

(See page 735 of A & L)

sender

receiver

clock
a

1,1,0?

When is the signal valid?


common timebase -- when to look at a signal
(e.g. whenever the clock is high)

Discretization of time
one bit of information associated with
an interval of time (cycle)
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