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of H. Pylori. Half hour to an hour after meals I was experiencing a dull stabbing
pain in the upper and sometimes in the lower left abdomen. This pain would
sometimes disappear for weeks and reappear what seemed out of nowhere.

Eventually I started feeling very lethargic and could hardly drag my feet around
the office. My appetite was considerably reduced and even though I would put
a full plate of food in front of me I was only able to eat about a third of my meal
until I felt full. At that time I blamed it all on sleepless nights and the stress
that my wife and I had to endure over a complicated pregnancy and birth of our
first baby.

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It all came down on me in one day. After feeling very weak I decided to have
some coffee at the office and I was immediately experiencing funny bubbling
noises in my stomach and seconds later I ended up on a toilet seat which felt
like a violent Pompeii eruption. My body could not handle any more acid. I
knew something was wrong and it couldn’t just be stress and sleepless nights
anymore. Next day I went to see my my doctor at PAMF in Palo Alto, CA.

Numerous people online describe


how their doctors never suspect
and do not test for H. Pylori. Most
will diagnose ulcers and prescribe
antacids, which tend to exacerbate
the problem. I suppose I was lucky
as among other tests my doctor
recommended a stool test for this
bacteria. Two days later the lab
results confirmed infection of H.
Pylori. My doctor called me to
explain that the bacteria was
present and it could be the culprit
behind my intestinal discomforts.
He invited me back in to suggest a Selfie at PAMF before the procedure.
treatment.

I was pretty shocked. If you know me, I am a health orientated guy. My diet is
good, I walk quite a bit, I wash my hands all the time, in fact I am a bit of a
germaphobe (thanks to my RN wife). How could this bacteria ever find real
estate in my intestines was beyond me. My only suspicion was that I could have
brought it back from my trip to India and Nepal a couple of years ago.

Traditional Medicine Treatment for H Pylori and Gastritis


Before I went back I did a lot of research and knew right away my doc will
suggest taking a prevpac, which is a combo of acid pump inhibitors, aka

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protonics, (to reduce the extra acidity produced by the stomach and allow the
ulcers and sensitive stomach lining to heal), an a couple of different antibiotics
(to fight the bacteria itself).

After reading about the side effects and questionable effectiveness of prevpac I
knew I would do everything in my power to look for more natural remedies.
After all, I was not interested in merely treating the symptoms but wanted to
know what caused the bacteria and how I could have contracted it. I wanted to
go to the source and then find a total cure.

I went to my doctor and explained that I do not intend to take the prevpac and
instead listed some supplements I was planning on taking. He basically gave
me a “good luck” look and we agreed to meet again when I come back for a
retest and my prevpac.

H. Pylori is Not a Mystery


H. Pylori or Helicobacter Pylori in full has certainly been receiving a lot of
attention lately and has acquired quite a bad reputation. While deservedly so, it
is also shrouded in many myths , accused of sorcery and conspiring against the
state. What I am saying is that it is not as “evil” as one may be led to believe.
After all, according various research and stats over 50% of world’s population is
unknowingly in cahoots with it. In fact, according to Wikipedia, over 80
percent of individuals infected with the bacterium are asymptomatic and it has
been postulated that it may even play an important role in the natural stomach
ecology. You hear that? No symptoms or the darn thing may even be
beneficial! After all, you don’t see half of the town at the clinic complaining
with stomach aches so any common sense would dictate there is something else
going on.

H. Pylori and Stress Relationship


Prior to 1982 the medical establishment mostly thought stomach ulcers were
merely a by-product of “stress and lifestyle.” But things changed after a “ground
braking” discovery of two Autralian scientists Robin Warren and Barry
Marshall who showed the bacteria Helicobacter pylori plays a key role in the
development of both stomach and intestinal ulcers. In fact, they determined
that H. pylori infection can trigger an ulcer by stimulating acid production in
the stomach, leading to damage to the stomach or intestinal lining. They even
went as far as infecting themselves and experiencing the results in order to
prove their theory.

I suppose its worth a Nobel prize but these esteemed gentlemen did not answer
one crucial question – How in the world this this bacteria end up inside of our
stomach lining in the first place? I am not saying I know myself but I have a
hunch which I’ll share with you in my last paragraph. First, let’s torpedo two
big problems – H Pylori and gastritis. Naturally, we must first tackle the source

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so we must wipe the bacteria before we can eliminate the pain, you agree? Let’s
get started.

H Pylori Elimination Protocol via Natural


Remedies
This list of food supplements was
compiled via advice from a few blogs. To
be 100% frank I am not entirely
convinced all of these supplements need
to be taken but I did and it worked for me.

Since most of these supplements have


been widely described elsewhere on the
web I will only touch upon the basics. See product links on Amazon or iHerb for
specifics (Note: iHerb offers good rates and fast delivery for international
shipping; using the links below 1st time shoppers get 10% off their order.)

1. Monolaurin – a 12-carbon long fatty acid, derived from coconut oil but
prepared into a mono-ester of lauric acid, which is found in coconut milk and
breast milk (yep, the real nature’s miracle). 2 pills (600mg each) twice a day.
Total of 2400 mg per day. (Amazon product link or iHerb product link)

2. Probiotic VSL #3 – a concentrated pro-biotic, containing 8 different


strains of beneficial bacteria. Much research suggests, a potent (broad range of
beneficial bacteria) pro-biotic alone can cure H. Pylori and accelerate the
healing process. I took two capsules a day. (Amazon product link or an iHerb
product which is cheaper and seems to be close in potency.)

3. InterFase Plus – is a “disarming” agent, a special enzyme formula that was


designed to disrupt the bio-film to which H Pylori bonds and allows the
Monolaurin and Manuka Honey to do its work. This sounded good to me and
made sense because my doctor was skeptical of any natural treatment because
H Pylori hides behind the bio-film which, in his view, was impenetrable by any
natural supplements. (Amazon product link or a cheaper iHerb product that
claims to do the same.)

A note from InterFase Plus manufacturer: “Biofilm consists of microorganisms


encased within a self-produced matrix of exopolysaccharides and exoproteins
that strongly adheres to interfaces and resists dislodgement. Microorganisms
residing within biofilms are highly resistant to antimicrobials including
antibiotics and bacteriocins produced by probiotics. InterFase Plus is a unique
enzyme formulation with EDTA that is especially designed to disrupt the
biofilm matrix that embeds potential gastrointestinal pathogens.”

4. Manuka Honey Active 16 – touted for its antibacterial qualities. I took a

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teaspoon on empty stomach three times a day before major meals and also one
before bed time. It tastes great, its rather expensive and effectiveness is
questionable but since its such a “miracle” I took it anyways to be sure. Make
sure to go for the 15+ or a bigger factor. (Amazon product link or iHerb product
link)

5. Mastic Gum, 500 mg, 60 Count


– a powder exuded from the branches and trunk of the mastic tree that grows
in the eastern Mediterranean and North Africa. There are many claims online
this is another miracle supplement but honestly, the more I read the more I
found out it does nothing to inhibit the bacteria itself. However, according to
the science of Ayurveda, mastic gum can help reduce inflammation by
strengthening the inner lining of the gut and making a protective layer that
guards against the damage of hyper-acidity during the h pylori infection. It is
also said to be a digestive stimulant, adaptogenic, and among other things – an
aphrodisiac. (Amazon product link or iHerb product link)

Additional things I took:

Licorice Drops
– Licorice root is well known around the globe for its anti-inflamatory, gastritis
relieving properties and inhibiting of H Pylori growth. Literature talks about
the compound called carbenoxolone synthesized from glycyrrhizin which plays
a key role in healing gastric ulcers along with reducing gastric secretions and
promoting development of intestinal mucus lining. If you’re prone to high
blood pressure, get the DGL kind. (Amazon product link or iHerb product link)

Olive Leaf
– another natural antibiotic. I took one by Gaia Herbs, two a day before food.
At least for me it produce a string detox effects so this it was yet another reason
to drink more water. Get the ones in photo-capsules. (Amazon product link or
iHerb product link)

Organic Apple Cider Vinegar 16 OZ


(with mother enzyme) – aids digestion and there is some evidence that, unlike
all other vinegars, this one has an alkalizing effect and inhibits growth of the
bacteria. (Amazon product link. iHerb doesn’t carry it, try and get it locally)

Whole Leaf Aloe Vera Juice – helps the body absorb nutrients during
digestion and works as an anti-inflammatory – exactly what you need for
gastritis. (Amazon product link or iHerb product link)

Aloe Vera Gel Inner Fillet


– same effect as above if you’d rather swallow a spoonful rather than drink a
glass of it. (Amazon product link or iHerb product link)

Chamomile and Mint tea provided additional comfort. (Amazon product

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link or iHerb product link)

Other Options/Alternative Protocol


Ashwagandha – I did not take it while recovering from h pylori but had I
known what I know now (after using it for a while later in my life), I would have
made it a priority. Ashwagandha is considered to be the “super adaptogen” and
provides enormous amounts of benefits to the body. You’ll need something to
calm the nerves and anxiety during this ordeal and this is the herb to do it. It is
said it reduce cortisol levels and could help reverse states of brain and nervous
system degeneration. (Amazon product link or iHerb product link)

Turmeric/Curcumin – I personally did not take it but this is an easily


available spice in most continents but there’s some good evidence that turmeric
is effective against peptic ulcers, H Pylori and a host of other gastric ailments. If
you live in an area where you can not obtain most of the items on this protocol
then do more research and give it a try. As a note of caution, start slow as some
report that turmeric is such a potent anti H Pylori agent, it can cause a strong
detox effect but others find it to be quite a relief and experience the opposite –
complete wellness after a while. So start with half a teaspoon one hour before
meal every day for a few days, then increase to one teaspoon and continue on.
The study suggest “2 capsules [of regular turmeric/not extract] (250 mg each) 4
times daily, 1 h before meals for 4 and 8 weeks.” You can also make a turmeric
tea and drink that too but like I said – watch your doses and don’t over do it. If
you don’t get the product I suggest from Amazon and choose to buy it locally
then take it with a pinch of black pepper for better bio-availability. As I’ve
recently learned myself – every culture has herbs to heal from all diseases and
they are usually found in one’s “backyard.” (Amazon product link or iHerb
product link)

When to Take What Sequence…


Monolaurin – two pills (600mg x 2) twice a day. Total of 2400 mg per day.
Take two in the morning with breakfast, two at night with dinner. You’ll need a
30 day supply, 45 better to be sure.

Manuka honey – one teaspoon 20-30 minutes before each meal on an empty
stomach, one more before bed on an empty stomach.

Mastic gum – take two pills (2 pills x 500mg each) on empty stomach in the
morning, and two in the evening. A total of 2000 mg per day.

InterFase Plus – take one capsule twice a day (2 capsules as recommended on


the product) on empty stomach before or between meals.

Take VSL probiotic right before meals or together but not after. Two capsules a
day. You’ll need one bottle of 60 caps.

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Basically, you get up in the morning and take Mastic gum with plenty of water
(hydration is key). Wait at least half hour then take Manuka and wait a bit as
well if you can. Take the probiotic and eat a healthy meal, take Monolaurin with
your meal. Between first and next meal take the InterfasePlus. If you are
willing to go the entire route then you can take any other supplements like olive
leaf, licorice with food, and aloe after your meals to help digestion and ease the
sooth the stomach.

Yes, I know, this takes “pill popping” to a whole new level but hey, it still beats
popping the antibiotics and the rest of the stuff on the protocol suggested by my
physician.

My Results of the Protocol


While taking these supplements and following a strict diet
(no meat, no dairy and no gluten products) I started feeling
the effects in about a week. My appetite came back and
body weakness started dissipating. I progressively felt
better every day. The pain was reduced from rather
unpleasant to nagging but it didn’t go away. Six weeks later
I had finished my self-prescribed supplement course and
even though I still had slight abdominal pains I decided to get retested.

Lone and behold, when results turned up two days later they showed that
Halicpbacter Pylori bacteria was gone. Holy cow was I pleasantly surprised!
After all, some people say they try these supplements without results but I
guess it was luck time for me. Honestly, I really think most people just do not
have the time or patience to go through this protocol.

The Healing Process


Little did I know getting rid of pain will be the toughest and longest stretch of
my journey. Luck or not, the bacteria was gone but it was far from over for me
as now it was healing time for the h pylori ravaged guts. So off to the doc’s
office again to see his baffled face and also request a referral to the GI specialist
to address the pain.

The GI doc was very surprised to hear my story and said “Perfect!, I have a
patient who cannot tolerate the prevpac and she would really benefit from a
more natural method… would you mind sharing the supplements and the
protocol?” Honestly, that just floored me. A doc asking me for advice about the
info that is readily available online? I suppose he just needed a guinea pig as
myself for proof that the protocol is valid and effective. Regardless, I was happy
to contribute to the education of our doctors.

After complaining to GI specialist about my nagging abdominal pains she


explained that the extra acid unleashed by the H Pylori bacteria caused some

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damage to the inner lining of my gut and she suggested I try some protonix
which is basically an acid suppressing drug that has minimal side effects. So
she prescribed to take PANTOPRAZOLE (Protonix) 40MG EC TAB. Three
weeks on that produced very very marginal results. I would venture to say the
drug was not effective.

We agreed beforehand that if protonix didn’t help, the next step was going to be
the endoscopy to peek inside my intestines to see what’s really happening there.
So I signed up and showed up at the hospital. RN was preparing to put me out
via general anesthesia but I really wanted to drive back home myself (otherwise
someone would have had to pick me up and drive my drunk brain home) so I
asked how bad the pain was of procedure. From 1-10 the nurse said it was 4.
This was enough to go commando and weather the pain, plus I wanted to see
the monitor and the camera inside my stomach.

After applying some anti gagging gel to my throat we were in! It all lasted only
about three minutes. The conclusion was, I had no ulcers but the inner lining
in my gut was irritated from bile that was coming up my stomach
and irritating the inner lining. In general this is known as Bile reflux –
a backflow of bile into the stomach from the bile tract (that connects to the liver
and gallbladder).

After asking what could have been causing this reflux the GI doc couldn’t really
explain properly and I was left to seek my own answers. Anyways, the next
step was the prescription of Carafate (SUCRALFATE (CARAFATE) 1GM/10ML
ORAL SUSP) which taken 20 minutes before food coats the stomach and
protects it from acidity of bile.

Two weeks on Carafate was welcomed with a decent improvement but not full
recovery. Mild nagging pain would still occur after more greasy or spicy meals.
Then my friend, who also had H Pylori infection a year earlier, suggested I take
Vitamin E and also D. I did more research, it all made sense so I went and got
some quality vitamins. We moved back to Europe two weeks later and about a
month later I noticed all of my symptoms and aches were entirely gone…
period, done, finished.

Note on the Vitamin D: Studies have shown that people infected with H
Pylori tend to be Vitamin D deficient. Whether it is the H Pylori that depletes
the vitamin or the deficiency itself invites H Pylori is still in question, however
what’s important is that the is a direct relationship between the two. There is a
study demonstrating that high doses of Vitamin D can kill H Pylori via natural
antibiotic in the body called cathelicidin peptide LL-37.

H Pylori, Gastritis and the Quality of Your Drinking Water


One of the things I can not encourage you enough is to drink LOTS of water –
water is essential in washing out acids and toxins in your system. Remember

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your chemistry class – H2O is essential for chemical processes to take place. It
is vital you do NOT drink sterile or soft water (purified by Brita or any other
filter). I believe drinking only purified water (void of calcium and magnesium)
contributed to my gastro problems. Read this about drinking deminirelised
water: (http://www.lenntech.com/health-risks-demineralized-water.htm) I was
totally oblivious to this and was sold by all the impurities hysteria so we only
drank filtered water.

According to the study in the link: “Recent epidemiological studies suggest that
low mineral drinking water may be a risk factor for hypertension and coronary
heart disease, gastric and duodenal ulcers, chronic gastritis, goitre, pregnancy
complications and several complications in infants. A study of this kind
conducted in 1992 by Lutai on two populations living in areas with different
levels of dissolved minerals showed that the population of the area supplied
with water low in minerals showed higher incident rates of these disease.
Children living in this area exhibited slower physical development and more
growth abnormalities, pregnant women suffered more frequently from oedema
and anaemia.”

My Lessons and Conclusion


Throughout my ordeal on looking for a more holistic approach to deal with H
Pylori and gastritis I did an immense amount of research and thinking. As
mentioned earlier, my gastro intestinal problems really coincided with a time in
my life when my wife and I were going through a tremendous amount of stress
related to pregnancy. Weeks later I even had an appendectomy due to the flare
up of my appendicitis. I believe this too was related to stress rather than diet or
anything else. Also a very peculiar fact is that all of my symptoms completely
vanished after my stress levels dropped upon moving back to my home country
in Europe.

My parting thoughts are these: proliferation of H Pylori as well as gastritis is a


product of stress. My hunch is that H Pylori came up to my stomach via excess
bile produced by stress. Here’s what a new stress study found to support this
theory:

The study proves for the first time how cortisol controls the recycling of bile
acids. Obviously, if you get too stressed out, you will be making excess bile
and sending it to your gall bladder, a system that can get overloaded. This
will cause excess bile to dump into your small intestine and start refluxing
back towards your stomach. This will cause heat or burning across your lower
ribcage, as bile moves backwards through your small intestine and into your
stomach.

My final advice would be this: before you spend hundreds of dollars on drugs,
supplements and any other magic potions to cure your symptoms you must
first address your lifestyle and stress levels. My case proved that it

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didn’t matter what kind of supplements I took if I didn’t reduce my stress


levels. This protocol mentioned above will work to eliminate the h pylori
bacteria but your stomach aches may not go away that easy.

Hope this helps and I wish you much patience. If you have any stories of your
own or any further questions then feel free to chime-in in the comments below.
If you go for this protocol let me know how you do!

UPDATE #1 – INTERESTING NOTE ABOUT TESTS


It’s been about five years since I had to battle with H Pylori. For the past year
I’ve been experiencing some gastrointestinal problems. Nothing like the one
with h pylori, no gastritis, no pains, just adrenal fatigue, food sensitivities, and
really bad insomnia, possibly due to some inherited methylation issues or
leftovers of Lyme’s disease (yeh, imagine that, I managed to get that one too).
So in search for answers I though, what the heck, let’s test for H Pylori too. So I
submitted both blood and stool test. Holy cow!!! Two days later my blood test
came back positive for H Pylori antibodies and in a very high count but two
days later my stool test came back negative.

So what’s going on? Well, I then learned that blood test can be an inaccurate
indicator because it only looks for H Pylori antibodies; it does not indicate the
current infection. As the source indicates: “h pylori serology [blood test] is
“useful in detecting a newly infected patient, but it is not a good test for follow-
up of treated patients because it does not indicate present infection with h
pylori. The antibody titer may remain elevated for a long time after h pylori
eradication.”

Stool test is more accurate because active infection from bacteria can actually
be detected this way. The most accurate test is the biopsy during endoscopy. So
it appears I DO NOT have H Pylori again but my body has naturally
developed antibodies because I did not treat the infection with
antibiotics! What this means is that there is a natural immunity and I’m WAY
less likely to get it again over someone who inoculated the bacteria with triple
antibiotic. Cool, eh? Yet another reason to go the natural route and use this
protocol.

UPDATE No.2 – THE H PYLORI AND MERCURY TOXICITY


CONNECTION FROM AMALGAM FILLINGS
Over the past year I’ve learned how many people are actually experiencing
various and debilitating health issues from mercury in their silver (amalgam)
fillings. I had a total of seven of them and had them all safely removed last
month. This made me think… “What if my H Pylori experience too was related
to my slow mercury poisoning? Lone and behold, there is a study (The impact
of amalgam dental fillings on the frequency of Helicobacter pylori infection and
H. pylori eradication rates…) that points to this is a very plausible cause:

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“RESULTS: The frequency of H. pylori infection was significantly lower in the


filling group compared with the nonfilling group. CONCLUSION: This is the
first study to show a lower frequency of H. pylori colonization in patients with
amalgam fillings than without and that H. pylori eradication rates are lower in
patients with amalgam fillings compared to those without.”

The same study clearly states: “Mercury exposure is encountered most


commonly in individuals with amalgam fillings. The toxic, bactericidal, and
immuno-suppressive effects of mercury are well known.” This is absolutely
mind blowing! I’ve been blaming H Pylori on my stress levels but now I’m
almost entirely convinced that it is mercury that suppressed my immune system
and paved the road for H Pylori infection.

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Claudia
August 1, 2013, 3:09 pm

I agree with you about stress and GASTRITIS. I’m right now looking for natural
healings for my ulcers and gastritis. I’m already doing some things you did. I’m
waiting for some suppplements arrive to my house.
I always feel that my hight levels of stress (for years )are the base of the problem
I have right now, overall because I eat very healthy (for years too). I mean what

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I said. I think most of the information out there only talk about H.pylori for this
gastric problems and forget the stress like a huge important part of this puzzle.
I think without the stress I have is not way Hpylori will be living in me.

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kevin
August 12, 2014, 7:50 am

Hi,
Did you suffer from anxiety & depression

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San Jose Green Home


August 22, 2014, 10:27 am

Hi Kevin, I had some anxiety from overall discomfort and uncertainty but
nothing too major. I meditate and lead a spiritual life so depression never
really had a chance to creep in. Best is to take this a challenge and strictly
stick to the protocol without exceptions. I can imagine depression can only
make the h pylori symptoms worse as stress must be the biggest contributor
to h pylori’s proliferation in our system.

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crystal
August 26, 2014, 11:38 pm

What is your take on reducing stress through prescription (xanax) while


attempting to heal H Pylori? I was just diagnosed this morning after my biopsy
results came in. I want to take an all natural approach taking many of the
supplements you’ve listed above, while keeping my anxiety down with my
prescription. I only fear this might be adding fuel to the fire.

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San Jose Green Home


August 30, 2014, 8:35 pm

Hi Crystal, you know I would do everything possible to address the stress


and anxiety first, otherwise the H Pylori problem may not be helped very
much naturally. I feel using prescription drugs is only a temporary solution
which only masks the inner turmoil. Look up some natural way to deal with
that anxiety. I would highly recommend visiting an Ayurveda/Chinese
medicine specialist for that. Good luck

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Kristina King
November 25, 2014, 11:07 pm

Hi there! I know this was written a while ago. My question to you is I have been
through months of stomach issues. I have gastriris (no h.pylori). However, I do
think I’m having bile backflow. Did yours just go away on its own? From
everything I have read there is no cure and you may have to get surgery. After
taking vitamin E and D? Which would you recommend and how much?

Also, did you experience any IBS like symptoms while going through your
situation? Any info you could give would be of such help.

Thanks!

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San Jose Green Home


November 26, 2014, 2:52 pm

Hi Kristina, I think a prescription of Carafate and good diet was what


finished my pains. I am still not sure what exactly triggered that bile back
flow but very likely it was stress. Now, interestingly enough a couple of
years later I developed some other issues with insomnia, etc. My main
concern today is that I feel heat (not painful) in my stomach about half an
hour after I eat something. I spoke to holistic doctors (both Tibetan
medicine and Ayurveda), they thought this was acid or bile coming up but
somehow I doubt it. It is on and off, usually after a stressful event. Still
trying to figure out what I’m dealing with here (probably something to do
with my liver as I wake up at the same time that lived is regenerating at
night (12-2:00am).

Have you tried any changes in the diet? What helped me to relieve my
symptoms was what one Ayurveda doc told me: Eat big meals in the
morning and afternoon, last meal around 3 or 4pm, evening might eat some
clear broth but not much more. This allows the digestion system to rest and
recover over night. Another big tip: Chew your food very well, 30 times or
more prior to swallowing and NO liquids with meals. Water dilutes the
stomach juice and interferes with proper digestion. This is what I would try
if I were you: try Sattvic diet (look up online) for a week, don’t eat anything
after 6pm, chew food well and NO liquids with meals but hydrate a lot in
between – at lead 30 mins prior to meals and at least 1 hour (2 better) after
meals. Let me know how it goes, OK? Best wishes, Tadas

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December 3, 2014, 12:12 am

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Hi there,

I was wondering if you could tell me the dosage of Interfase Plus you were
taking? I’m up to 1 pill twice a day but I’m not sure it’s enough. Thanks!

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San Jose Green Home


December 4, 2014, 4:36 pm

Hi Jessica, I don’t remember right now how much I took but it was more
than 2 a day for sure. Producer of Interfase Plus has a “Suggested Use: 2 to
8 capsules daily between meals or as directed by a healthcare practitioner.”
2 total a day maybe too few, I know I used up entire bottle in one month so
very likely I was taking at least 4 a day on empty stomach. Good luck.

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Jessica
December 8, 2014, 11:18 am

Thanks! I’ve upped my does to two pills twice a day. Did you take the
monolaurin with or without food?

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San Jose Green Home


December 8, 2014, 5:16 pm

First thing in the morning about half hour before breakfast and also
before food later in the day.

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Evan
December 23, 2014, 3:46 am

Thanks so much for sharing your story! I am curious if you remember the
sequence/timing of your taking all these pills? Should mastic gum and
monolaurin be taken twice a day before meals (1hr), followed by manuka honey
(half hr. Before meal).. Then probiotic w meal? Then when to take interfase? I
just wonder if the biofilm buster needs to be taken prior to the
gum/monolaurin? Thanks!

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December 28, 2014, 11:30 am

Hi Evan. Manuka honey – teaspoon 20-30 minutes before each meal on an


empty stomach, one more before bed on an empty stomach.

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Mastic gum – empty stomach too. InterFase Plus is taken between meals.
So you get up in the morning and take Mastic gum with plenty of water
(hydration is key). Wait at least half hour then do Manuka and wait a bit as
well if you can. If I remember correctly I took probiotic right before meals
(or together but not after) and Interfase between meals. Good luck

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Kev
January 21, 2015, 8:33 pm

HI,

Curious if your symptoms also included extreme fatigue, and disturbed your
sleeping.

I can’t sleep for more then 3-4 hours straight then get woken up by my stomach
sorta churning (lightly) including feeling extremely weak as if something was
holding you back. This also includes a little brain fog, where I have light
sensitivities as well as things look too dark/dim?

I’m doing most of what you listed, minus the interface plus, & Monolaurin
(which i take Virgin Cold pressed coconut oil),.. My symptoms seem a little
better but my improvement hasn’t been what I expected. I’m hoping the
Biofilms work..

Do you have any good articles that turned you onto trying Interfase Plus? Or do
you know of any like products?

Mahalo for your post! this gives me hope!

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January 22, 2015, 10:22 am

Hi Kev, yes I did have fatigue and it totally makes sense that your sleep is
disturbed as well. I had read a couple of studies that showed a disturbed gut
flora can affect our mental health. I too experienced some brain fog but
luckily I jumped on the problem very quickly and saw my symptoms
improve within a week or so.
Now obviously, I’m not a specialist in this but coconut oil alone may not be
potent enough as the concentrated version of Monolaurin but I’m sure it is
still beneficial. I researched Interfase Plus and read other articles where
folks recommend it so if you look for it online you should find some good
sources, like holistic practitioners, etc. One of them was – “Dr. Ettinger’s
Biofilm Protocol for Lyme and Gut Pathogens.” There are probably other
similar products but I’m not aware of them.

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I don’t want to open a whole new Pandora’s box about natural H Pylori
treatments but things I learned from experimenting with various things
over the years dealing with other issues I now believe another good
approach (perhaps much faster) would be to do an acid flush cleanse (
modified version of Hulda Clark Gillard method from “Cure for all Disease”)
and a two day fast (no food whatsoever). I read that a short fast (up to 60
hours)can increase our metabolic rate and (I’m only guessing) it would
allow the body to attack the bacteria and eradicate it faster. Again, the last
idea is only speculation that I would only undertake with more research so
its something to keep in mind.
Good luck and remember “this too shall pass”

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Luisa
March 27, 2015, 8:13 pm

Just wondering if you know if the Mastic Gum and/or Manuka Honey falsify H-
Pylori lab results; and will you share your findings with me please? The doctor
has a lab referral for me to get tested, yet states not to have taken any
prescription medication for a period of two weeks prior. I have been taking
Manuka Honey for one month and Mastic Gum for one and a half weeks. I do
not want to stop my “self treatment” for two weeks, but if I have to, to receive a
true lab result, I will. Do you have an knowledge on this area? Thank you.

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March 28, 2015, 9:10 am

Hi Luisa, I’m not a doctor but I do not see any feasible reason why why
mastic gum or honey would falsify lab results. Mastic Gum is a food
supplement and does not fall under “prescription medications” and honey is
just, well, food If you come back negative on H Pylori then it will be good
news, that means your protocol did its job.

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Luisa
March 28, 2015, 4:35 pm

Thank you for your speedy response. I called the lab – they did not know, I
called the Manuka Honey distributor – they claim no medical advise, and the
doctor only refers to medical prescriptions. I am going to continue to take my
Mastic Gum and Manuka Honey, as I do not want to interrupt the flow of
healing. My test is on Tuesday, I will let you know. Stay healthy and enjoy life.

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Bea
March 28, 2015, 6:02 pm

Hi there! (I’m sorry, I couldn’t find your name on the article)

I hope you’re still receiving notifications for comments on here and could help
me by shedding some light on the diet topic.
I read you followed a strict diet during your treatment (no meat, no dairy and
no gluten products) and this is exactly what I want to do as well, which won’t be
too hard since I’m already a vegetarian that avoids dairy 80% at of the time.
However, I’ve read other h. pylori eradication success stories around the
internet and it seems like most people swear by a much more strict diet that,
unfortunately, INCLUDES meat. That being no grains, no corn and no soy.
Something along the lines of the Paleo Diet. What’s your opinion about that?
How did you get to the no meat/dairy/gluten diet choice?

Thank you so much for your time and congratulations on this very informative
article.

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March 28, 2015, 7:06 pm

Hi Bea, I honestly do not know how and if diet itself contributes to


eradication of H Pylory but I arrived to the diet conclusions for myself
based purely on how my body deals with various nutrients. While dealing
with the helicobacter bug my digestions was very poor, acidity high, so I
simply wanted to consume food that would be easy to digest, absorb and so
on. No dairy because of all the added mucus that holistic nutritionists say
covers the digestion tracks and prevents nutrients from being absorbed
properly. I think you have to be reasonable and feel your own system – take
nutritious, easy to digest food that does not cause additional inflammation
in your system. Good luck, you’ll be fine.

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Coralee
April 23, 2015, 3:26 pm

Hi Sunshine. ……your an absolute sweetheart for sharing your story. …


Thankyou x
I have been ill for over six years now and wasted so much money on specialist
that would make you cry ….well it does make me ???? anyways after such a long
journey it wasn’t until my son started to get ill that I took him to 4 different
doctors and the last one said let’s test him for HP….bingo. …sadly he tested
positive and now looking at the whole picture and reading your story and many

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many nights reading and researching I feel this has been the cause of my very ill
health that has robbed my life from right under my nose….I have always leaned
to more natural ways and we are now doing mastic gum. Manuka honey.
Coconut oil. Very good probiotic. Vitamin C. Zinc. Eating very clean.
Consuming homemade foods including bone broth. No sugar no dairy. .and
eating home grown lemon balm for stress and sleep interruptions (*does block
thyroid meds if you are on them ) I am so so frightened that when we do finish
the protocol that we may not be totally finished so for backup we invested in
matula tea to have after all this. ……was wondering what your views are on this
tea ….I am going to get some interfase asap but it’s a bit hard here in Australia
to find will be asking our new Metagenic Doc about it. …..once again
THANKYOU! … your wonderful and don’t let anybody tell you different xx

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Tadas
April 24, 2015, 7:05 pm

Well, hello back! Happy to hear you finally nailed the diagnosis for your
son. H Pylori is easy to diagnose IF the doctor has enough insight to actually
suspect it to be the culprit. I had done research on Matula Tea and and the
feedback from folks that took it was very very mixed. I’d say the majority
noted it didn’t help them. I would be cautious trying various products by
themselves without a proven protocol. You might be setting yourself up for
a disappointment. The supplements I mentioned here work in a synergetic
way, some complimenting each other, some for backup but this protocol, I
feel, covers all the bases. I highly recommend following it in the way that I
described here, because this is what worked for me and many others. See if
Amazon will ship to Australia; they are pretty good about international
shipping these days. I hope you’ll get rid of this bacteria sooner than later
and recover your vitality. Sending many warm wishes your way. Stay in
touch.

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Nikki
September 18, 2019, 10:11 pm

Please tell me your son is doing well!

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Lydia
May 5, 2015, 5:31 am

I have a question! But first I wanted to share since the protocol I followed for
the past 5 weeks is extremely similar to yours. It was basically what you did
minus the InterfasePlus. (I read Ettinger’s article as well so I looked into the
supplement. The studies I read on the active ingredient, EDTA, and the

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potential side effects scared me off of it.) I understand that disrupting the
biofilm is important but I hoped since I caught my infection early (I’m 99% sure
I only had the bacteria for maybe a week when I began treating it) the biofilm
wouldn’t have had a chance to form.

I’ve just finished Week 5 of my protocol: 1200mg of Monolaurin twice a day


(morning and night), 4 teaspoons of Manuka Honey a day (30 minutes before
meals and one at bedtime), 1000mg of Mastic Gum twice a day (two pills upon
waking, two before bed), 1 teaspoon of L-Glutamine every morning for stomach
lining healing, 38mg of Zinc L-Carnosine twice a day (in the form of PepzinGI)
for the same reason, 1 Solaray Digestaway Digestive Enzyme pill to aid the
stomach in the digestion of food with each meal, and 1 packet of VSL#3
medium strength (450 billion/packet) every morning with or after breakfast. I
occasionally added in things like cold-pressed aloe vera juice and decaf green
tea to help soothe my stomach. I also cut out all dairy, all acidic foods, red meat,
all gluten, and almost all sugars including the natural sugars found in some
fruits and vegetables as well as those found in grains. (I did occasionally have a
treat/cheat of 2 tablespoons or so of peanut butter made from unblanched,
unsalted peanuts at 1g of sugar per 2 tbsp with celery sticks when I couldn’t take
the sugar cravings.)

Now for my question (I know, I took my sweet time getting here): I’ve decided
to wait for a month until I get re-tested. I’ve heard you should wait at least 28
days after completing an H.pylori protocol to get re-tested lest the test yield a
false negative. However, I’ve read your comments and wanted to ask: Did you
wait to get re-tested or did you continue your protocol up until the day you were
tested?

My concern is that continuing to follow the protocol could subdue the bacteria
in the stomach to “acceptable” levels and therefore yield a false negative when it
fact the bacteria is still present. Have you ever been re-tested after you had been
off of your regimen for an extended period?

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Tadas
May 5, 2015, 3:42 pm

Wow, good job on the diet Lydia, sounds like you really did everything you
could. As far as the Interfase supplement is concerned it will be interesting
to see whether you did well without it. If you test negative it means it may
not be an absolute “must” for the protocol. You know, it is best to ask those
who understand the biofilm part. I thought the biofilm is always there, it
doesn’t just form with H Pylori but is always present in our gut. Problem is
that biofilm supposedly prevents the natural supplements reaching the H
Pylori bacteria and that is why it would makes sense to include the
InterfasePlus product, because it allegedly brakes down that biofilm.
Anyways, if you didn’t take it then I wouldn’t worry about it. Your diet and

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the rest of the protocol should have taken care of the issue. I was led to
believe that the most important supplement in the entire protocol is the
Monolaurin one.
As per your question, I took all my supplements and finished the most
expensive ones like Inerfase and VSL probiotic within the month and then I
kept taking the rest maybe for another 7-10 days after which I went to see
the doc. I wouldn’t worry about false positives here, these are natural
supplements that make an environment for H Pylori inhospitable to the
point where it can no longer survive. We’re not talking about subduing here,
it should be a total wipe-out. From what I researched, there is a large
percentage of people (depends on race and age) who always cary this
bacteria in their gut but in some different “compartment,” so to speak,
where it doesn’t cause any problems. You could have contracted it from
somewhere or some other conditions could have caused the bacteria to
move and colonize in your gut.
Your last question, no I never had to test for it again as I never felt any
symptoms that I had during the infection. Don’t worry, sounds like you’re
on the right track. Go get tested again and come back to share your findings
and experience. Good luck, Tadas.

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Nassim
February 7, 2017, 7:20 am

Hello Tadas,
I believe you mentioned in your article that you got retested several
years later correct?
A side question if I may, does it make a difference if I choose to take
Lauricidin mini-pellets instead of the capsules (or rather is it okay to
have either one of them)? After 10 days of taking the capsules, I
switched to Lauricidin pellets.

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Tadas
February 7, 2017, 11:13 am

Hi Nassim, from what I know, it is the same thing so shouldn’t make


any difference as long as you keep the dosage similar. Yes I did get
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Nassim
February 10, 2017, 1:29 am

Thanks Tadas for your response.

The only dosage it comes with is a 3000 scoop (1 teaspoon). So

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it is hard to get an exact 2400mg/day from a teaspoon. I try to


to go 80% of the teaspoon/day which should give the desired
2400mg.

One more question if you do not mind: I have been doing the
treatment for like 10 days now and I am thinking of switching to
just the interfase (without the plus). My BM are not normal at
all since I am on the treatment. I am also concerned about the
use of EDTA in case I have mercury or something harmful in my
system. DO you think I really need the plus?

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Tadas
February 10, 2017, 7:18 pm

To be frank, I have no idea but I think you’ll do just fine without


it. No studies I read emphasized EDTA for braking down
biofilm. As far as diet… yes I recommend a very bland diet,
definitely no chocolate or chips that are full of oxalates. You
need to give your gut a chance to heal with easy digestible,
nutritious food. No need for fish only diet as well – just eat your
protein, veggies and healthy fat, you’ll be good.

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Nassim
February 10, 2017, 8:52 pm

I agree that the diet makes sense from he “gut healing”


prospective, but I am more concerned about HP erradication at
this point. So, would my diet with some chocolate and
sometimes chips (to stay sane) still be okay for erradication
purposes only?

Thanks again!

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Tadas
February 11, 2017, 11:02 am

Nassim, you’re asking a guy who’s ready to do anything, eat


anything for any period of time to stay healthy or regain health,
so what do you think my answer will be? You’ll be much more
sane from getting rid of this bug than stopping chocolate for a
while. In general though, if certain foods do not make your
condition worse, then perhaps they are fine for you anyways.
You be the judge.

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Nikki
May 6, 2015, 9:39 am

Wow thanks for an amazing article and the very helpful comments as well. I
wish I had found this earlier. After trying for 6 months in various ways to
eradicate my h pylori naturally I ended up going on the triple therapy
(amoxicillin, Clarithromyacin and a PPI). I was so scared of doing it but I just
kept being told again and again that I needed to do it and that it would resolve
my gastritis, but after finishing my course I am worse off than to begin with…
which was always my fear. I feel pretty devastated and haven’t gotten many
more answers. I’m scared that I have damaged myself with the antibiotics. Has
anyone else had this experience? Need a bit of hope here! Am thinking of
buying the VSL 3. Am also doing Mastic, zinc carnosine, DGL, l glutamine, a 55
billion probiotic and saccaromyces boulardi. Paleo diet as well. Seems to be
getting worse though. Would appreciate some insights if you have any. Thanks
so much, Nikki

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Tadas
May 6, 2015, 10:04 am

Hi Nikki, perhaps someone else who had gone the triple therapy route can
chime in more but as far as I can say based on my research is that feeling
worse after the prevpac is not uncommon because it hadn’t worked and all
the acid that was blocked before with PPI is now causing more pain in the
bacteria colonized gut. I wouldn’t worry about any serious damage from
antibiotics. It is mostly people who abuse antibiotics who can have
problems down the road when their bodies do not respond to them. Do the
protocol I mentioned if you can, it works in all fronts to help eradicate h
pylori as well as healing the gut lining, etc. Also, I’d go to the
gastroenterologist for a check up if you feel awful as there could be others
factors involved. I honestly think H Pylori is a symptom of something else
going on in our bodies and lifestyle. Hang in there and check in when you
have some answers, perhaps others will find it useful too.

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Andrea Parish
May 7, 2015, 6:16 pm

Hello

Well, yesterday, after only eight weeks in on taking the protocol above, plus
only eating fish and dark fruits and vegetables, my H-pylori blood test came
back negative. I have however, lost 25 lbs and need to gain weight back, but I

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feel fine and healthy again. Being a hypochondriac though, I must ask this
question: after finding out that the blood test for h-pylori is the least accurate
between the blood, breath test, stool and biopsy; should I trust the blood test
negative? My doctor will not approve of another test for me, so I am a little
nervous that my negative result may be a false negative.

Regardless, I feel better and thank you so much for sharing your experience
with us, I am sure that you are helping so many people like me.

Andrea

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Tadas
May 7, 2015, 8:45 pm

Excellent Andrea, so excellent! Perhaps you went a bit too gung-ho on the
diet part but if you feel good then it’s all that matters. I wouldn’t doubt
the blood test if you feel your digestion and gut feels normal. I’d say open a
bottle of champagne to celebrate and slowly re-introduce other wholesome
foods to your diet. I’m pretty sure the worst is behind you and once you
start eating a bigger variety of foods you’ll feel great again. Be well.

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Nassim
February 10, 2017, 1:42 am

My apologies, it may seem like I am everywhere. I am reading through


the comments to learn form others experiences. Andrea says that she
had followed a specific diet. I didn’t change my diet. I eat as healthy as
possible though but I still include white rice, dark chocolate, and chips
etc. Did you follow any special diet? Should I start following a strict only
fish diet? Thanks!

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Jocelyn
July 22, 2015, 7:54 am

Hello, I wanted to know what you would recommend for my 11 year old who I
believe has an ulcer? Doctors have done 2 abdominal ultrasounds, blood work,
and x-rays. All results came back normal. We are waiting for the stool test
results to see if he has h-pylori. But my son is extremely uncomfortable and
pain never goes away right by his navel. It just seems to elevate up and down
and it gets worst around bedtime. I’ve given him chamomile tea with Manuka
honey, ginger tea, organic fruits especially bananas, fresh organic vegetables,
water , and cut out sugars. He also started on probiotics 4 days ago. His GI
prescribed him Zantac, but haven’t started giving it to him yet, as I’m trying to

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go the natural route. Any help will be appreciated…thanks!

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Tadas
July 22, 2015, 8:52 am

Hi Jocelyn, sorry to hear about your little one. Have the docs diagnosed an
ulcer or you only suspect it to be one? As with anything, you need an exact
diagnosis to try and treat something, otherwise you might be shooting all
over the place and missing the target. I am not a doc so can not be of much
help with advice but one thing is for sure – if it is an ulcer then what’s
causing it? Is it stress, diet, pathogens, a combination of all? Zantac might
help with the symptoms but you know… you have to find the source of the
fire in order to tackle the health issue holistically. Good luck.

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Randy
September 13, 2015, 7:12 am

THANK YOU, firstly, so much, for taking the time to share this. So helpful.

A number of folks here have asked about protocol, and you’ve addressed
different parts of it in your responses.

I’m still quite confused about what to take when, and am a little worried about
taking several different supplements on an empty stomach (you indicate that
mastic, manuka honey, VSL and monolaurin should all be taken before
breakfast – also others have suggested Glutamine which according to the label
also should be taken on empty stomach).

And I have no idea when to take olive leaf, licorice, and aloe.

I feel it’s a lot to ask, but would you be willing to share your full daily schedule
of supplements with us?

And lastly! Did you avoid coffee? I hear h pylori loves coffee…but so do I. *sigh*

Again ENORMOUS THANKS from the bottom of my heart (and duodenum!)

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Tadas
September 27, 2015, 10:44 am

Hi Randy, I’ve just updated the article based on your suggestion to offer the
sequence of supplementation that I followed. Again, this is what I did and I
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consult with specialists if you have doubts. I did not take Glutamine as I had
no info about it back then. I did avoid coffee (not necessarily caffeine)
because it made me feel more acidic and added to the gastritis troubles.
Hope you get well soon.

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Casey
December 26, 2015, 9:45 am

Hello, I was wondering if there are any warnings or precautions for pregnant
women with any of the supplement mentioned in your article that you know of?

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Tadas
December 26, 2015, 11:59 am

Hi, I wouldn’t know but check the labels and manufacturers for more info. I
would certainly exercise more caution during pregnancy. However, please
see a good doc for good advice because heartburn (acid reflux) is one of the
most common pregnancy woes because of progesterone. Your condition
may have nothing to do with H Pylori.
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Dave
February 22, 2016, 8:33 pm

Thanks for the awesome information.

Unfortunately, I took the doctors recommended treatment for HP was


prescribed Pylera and Prilosec for 10 days.

I am thinking about following up with a 1 month protocol as you described to


make sure its gone prior to my getting retested.

Good idea or a waste of money?

How much vitamin d and e did you take each day for the healing process? Could
I take the healing process protocol (vitamins) while doing the back up
eradication the way you did?

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Tadas
February 23, 2016, 8:31 am

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Hi Dave, obviously we’re just making educated guesses here but I wouldn’t
despair because some people respond just fine to the “standard” treatment.
I would definately suggest to support your system with a good probiotic,
quality vitamins and nutritious food. If you don’t respond to the protocol
prescribed by MD or the bacteria comes back then definately try this
protocol. Check out this study for vitamin dosages. The conclusion is very
clear: “Adding vitamins C and E to standard triple therapy increases the
eradication rate of H. pylori. Vitamins C and E may increase the eradication
rate via increasing the effectiveness of the antibiotics by decreasing
oxidative stress in the gastric mucosa and strengthening the immune
system” NCBI Study Link. Good luck!

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Adri
March 11, 2016, 10:17 pm

Hi,
I read your story and found it very interesting, I was diagnosed with H. Pylori
20 years ago. Tried to do the antibiotic treatment but couldn’t handle the pain it
cause in my abdomen. I went to see a holistic doctor and she told me to drink
potato juice 6 times a day before each meal for a month. That completely cured
the discomfort. Last week, I had an endoscopy because I had terrible cramps
and the pylori came back, I had a really bad stress episode and right after the
pain started so, yes stress does something to revive a dormant pylori. Now, I am
just trying to kill that bacteria for good and pay close attention to my stress
levels. Off course we are what we eat so, eating a limited diet.
Thanks for sharing your story.

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Tadas
March 12, 2016, 8:30 am

Hi Adri, yep, I really do think it is stress related, well actually, most of our
western deseases is either diet or stress related. From what I heard potato
or cabage juice helps heal the gut and inner lining inflamation. By the way,
if you feel your body doesn’t deal with stress very well then look into a good
adaptogenic herb for yourself. Best to visit some Traditional Chinese
Medicine specialist and he’ll advise you on the best one for your body type.
Thank goodness the H. Pylori hasn’t come back to haunt me since that time.
Anyways, much patience to you now, hopefully you’ll bounce back soon. Be
well.

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James
March 17, 2016, 11:19 pm

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Tadas
Whats going on man i see you eradicated your H.Pylori. I am trying the
same thing as you did but i am not sure if it is working i am almost done
with my interfase this sunday i will be finished also i am taking
everything else. I have stomach discomfort and burping but the doctor
did a breath test and i did a blood test and they both came out negative i
thought i still have it cause i was taking mastic gum and DGL but cause
it show a false negative by taking those produts your insight would be
great. I am also going for my endoscopy this monday coming up on the
21st since i am on this protocol will it show a false negative if i have
something and they take a biospy

Thanks

James

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Tadas
March 18, 2016, 5:48 am

Hi James, how long have you been on this protocol? Are you taking
all of these supplements or some? Most importantly – are you
taking a good pro-biotic? From what I know stomach discomfort can
last long after H Pylori is gone. Gut needs to heal, plus you might
have already had other issues with gut health prior to invasion of H
Pylori (which is usually what happens anyways.) Breath test is not
always reliable, and I do not know about blood test. I had to take
stool culture, which was positive before protocol and negative after
protocol. My gut too some time to heal too, just as described in the
post. Endoscopy will show the health of your gut and it can not
come back false negative because it’s a visual inspection, as you
know. Hang in there and let me know what you find out during the
endoscopy.

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James
March 18, 2016, 4:01 pm

I have been taking the supplements all month I am about to finish them this
weekend well most of them anyway i still have 2 weeks worth of monolaurin
and mastic gum. Yea i just want to get better and live my life normal it is hard
as you know when you got something wrong with your stomach and cant find
out what is wrong i went from 150 to 130 in 5 months i am hoping on Monday
they find out what is wrong. Thanks for responding back i will let you know how
it goes on Monday

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Tadas
March 19, 2016, 9:02 am

James, from what I read and also my own experience, it takes longer to heal
your gut than to get rid of the invading helicobacter. This is why you may
come back negative and still not feel well. If nothing else is causing your
discomfort, then it is just a matter of time till you feel better if you keep
taking your supplements and eat well. Take care.

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meryem mouhid
April 13, 2016, 7:50 pm

Hi Tadas,

i just found your website, i was looking for a natural protocol for h pilori, my
brother had antibiotics before and it make him sick, and now he wants natural
ways. Im thinking to buy him this protocol, can i ask you if you cure your hp
and if you did the breath test after to make sure you eradicate it? also if anyone
had great results like you with this protocol?
I know healing the gut its important after killing HP, whats suppl you taking
now ?
thanks
meryem

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Tadas
April 15, 2016, 3:03 pm

Howdy Meryem, my doc did the stool test in both cases (to detect it and to
confirm it was gone) but mostly I felt it myself when my energies and
appetite bounced back. I think some people in the comments mentioned
that this worked, plus I compiled this protocol from other success stories on
the internet. I detailed all the supplements I was taking to heal the gut in
the post. Direct your brother here so he can read up himself. Let me know if
you have any other questions. Be well.

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meryem mouhid
April 15, 2016, 8:41 pm

HI tadas,

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thanks for replying,my brother speaks french this is why im helping him, yes i
will make him try this protocol, waiting until i have enough money lol, please
for interfase how many pill a day? also mastic gum 2000mg a day is so strong, i
read that someone who had big dose destroyed the stomach lining, i just wanna
make sure 2000mg is ok.
After you kill hp, how long did you keep eating gluten/dairy free? whats the
herbal med you keep doing for maintenance? thanks a lot.
Meryem,

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Tadas
April 16, 2016, 7:26 am

Hi Meryem, InterFase Plus – have him take one capsule twice a day on
empty stomach before or between meals, just the way it is suggested on the
product. I had no problem with mastic gum. I can’t possibly see how
someone can claim that it could have destroyed the stomach lining but I’m
not a doctor so please use your own judgement and research things very
well before putting anything in your body as there could be other conditions
involved. I have a feeling you can skip mastic gum altogether if you want,
just make sure you include something else to help heal the gut like aloe vera
or licorice, or anything else you can think of. Make sure your brother sticks
to the protocol, otherwise it’s a waste of money. Once I felt fine, I went back
on my normal diet right away, you just need to see mindful of your body
and digestion and do accordingly.

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Kev
May 19, 2016, 7:36 am

HI I just wanted to share my story. Thanksgiving 2015 I got really sick. I


didn’t know how, but I was getting mild fevers and acid reflux that would
prevent me from getting much sleep at all.

I went to my doctor and he did several tests.. I came back positive for CMV
(new infection based on the lab tests) I also went to a Gastro and got an
endoscopy. I was diagnosed with Hpylori, and doctor noted my whole
stomach was Red.

Prior to getting sick, the month before I took an antibiotic for a bad sinus
infection…. I can’t remember the name right now, but what I think
happened to me was a domino affect…

I took the antibiotic, that basically killed off all my good stomach bacteria,
created an imbalance, and allowed the Hpylori (whether it was there before
or not) create an active infection.. (Hpylori from what i know is a common
bacteria, and I think an active infection is when it really affects your

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stomach).

Anyway I blame the antibiotic, and to this day I FEAR antibiotics… I went
against my doctors recommendation to take the ZPACK (two antibiotics and
a acid suppressor). I read online, everywhere for a natural cure, including
this website which probably provided me with the best baseline.

I took mastic gum, Monolaurin, coconut oil, manuka honey, Curcumain,


Interfase plus… I even crush up garlic and eat with a spoonful of honey…
I’m not going to go into the detail of how my protocol went, but slowly my
stomach started to feel a little better everyday.

It’s been well over a year now, and I don’t know if i’m 100% healed.. but
from what I’ve read it takes a long time for the GUT to heal.. So i’m not
going to lie sometimes i get paranoid about not being cured from the
Hpylori, but at least i’m not getting the pain or the discomfort that I had
when I first was diagnosed.

Currently I was still on an Interfase Plus, Monolaurin protocol.. Interfase


between meals, and then monolaurin with food, or soon after. I think i’ve
been managing well, and I feel like i’m in good health.. However I ran out of
monolaurin for a few days, and felt like my stomach was getting this weird
sensation again.. I couldn’t buy Monolaurin locally, because I live in Hawaii
and I didn’t feel like I could wait for a few days for it to be shipped to me. So
I found a local vitamin store and they carried, the SUN brand of
Monolaurin.

I’ve been taking this for a few months now, and I feel like it works better
then the brand of Monolaurin from Ecological formulas.. I’m not sure why,
but I do notice a difference..

Anyway I’m sharing this because I do think that there are natural ways to
get rid of this bacteria.. However it might take a lot of time, effort, and
stressful nights.. I feel for people, because having Hpylori is scarry at first.
Psychologically it can really affect you as it did for me. However, I believe
you will get over it…

I’ve never got tested, for Hpylori again, but I don’t feel the need to.. I feel
like knowing that it’s possible that I still have it forces me to eat the right
foods, get good exercise, proper amounts of sleep, and to take the
supplements that help me live a healthy life..

I seriously will not take anymore antibiotics and would rather stay on a
protocol of eating healthy, taking known supplements that fight bacteria
naturally.

Warmest Aloha to all!

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Tadas
May 19, 2016, 8:10 pm

Hi Kev, my advice would be to go get tested for H Pylori and if you’re


negative (and it sounds like you are) then quite all those supplements
ASAP. There’s absolutely no need to be taking them, in fact, too much of
a good thing can turn bad too. Monolaurin is an acid; just take pure
organic coconut oil, you’ll be way better of. The Interfase enzymes serve
a specific function, it is not a necessary nutrient, there is definitely no
need to take it long term. Don’t be paranoid, just be brave and get
tested. Then keep eating right, manage stress and you’ll should be fine.

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MANISH Shah
May 13, 2016, 3:28 pm

Hi, I am experiencing same issue with failed antibiotics treatment. I am starting


to go through this protocol. For me biggest problem being vegetarian and heavy
on carb diet. I have few choices and using gluten free grains. I am hoping that
would be enough. Fingers crossed and praying almighty god.

Thanks,
Manish

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Tadas
May 15, 2016, 5:27 pm

Hi Manish, I don’t thing vegetarian diet is a problem if it’s well balanced


and you’re getting your protein and essential elements from your food or
supplements. Protocol should work if you follow it. God gives us a head, it’s
up to us get wise and use it. Good luck and come back and tell me how it
went.

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Vikram
May 17, 2016, 3:44 pm

hello,
you mentioned no dairy, was wondering if it’s to avoid calcium as such. thing is,
I get PVCs every now and then and I suspect that this has to do with h pylori
due to the fact that the biofilm can rob the body of essential minerals and PVCs
is due to electrolyte imbalance. when I started the above regime with interface
plus, my PVCs got worse, I was having PVCs all through the day instead of just

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3 or 4 times in the day. this could be due to EDTA and as soon as I switched to
the original ‘Interfase’ product, the PVCs stopped. but my concern is, if I don’t
take enough amount of calcium in my diet, my symptoms get worse along with
other resulting problems with low calcium. how do I deal with low electrolyte
imbalance while going through this regime? I usually take yogurt to meet my
calcium needs or a vegetarian calcium supplement. please advise. thank you so
much for putting this link on h pylori. it has been extremely helpful. God bless
you!!

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Tadas
May 18, 2016, 10:49 am

Hi Vikram, I mentioned to avoid dairy as there may be an issue with


malabsorption of nutrients during H Pylori infection and lactose could be
another issue with a sensitive stomach. Calcium has nothing to do with it
and yogurt could be very beneficial because of the good probiotics, etc.
Everyone is very different with their own set of problems so you’re doing the
right thing by listening to your body and adjusting your supplements.
Remember, you can always supplement with a good calcium/magnesium
product, it should be readily available at any pharmacy, just get something
that is well absorbed by the body (plus vit D and all that stuff). Good luck.

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Ram Kumara Nagaraj


May 18, 2016, 4:47 pm

Dear Sir,
H pylori positive and just like other the triple anti-biotic treatment infact made
it worse.
Threw all the tabs and just doing mastic gums now. 2tabs at 8am and plenty of
water and 2tabs at 6pm before dinner.
Is this good enough along with lots of buttermilk??

symptoms: Farting, belching, bloating but NO heartburn, reflux (thank god for
small mercies)

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Tadas
May 18, 2016, 6:02 pm

Hello Ram, mastic gum alone is only good to soothe the stomach lining. It,
by itself my not be enough to help you get rid of h pylori. Buttermilk might
help but again, the lactose could be only adding to your symptoms now. Do
you have access to apple cider vinegar? I read somewhere there is protocol
to use that vinegar so please google it and see what you find. Keep looking

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for answers with your local doctors, visist an Auyrveda or Chinese Medicine
specialist and they should be able to help with local resources. Keep in
touch.

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meryem mouhid
May 26, 2016, 9:15 pm

Hi Tadas,
im ordering the protocol now,can i know how long this treatment last, is it 6 to
7 weeks? also what brand of vit e and d you recommended, whats the dosage
you take, thanks a lot,

Meryem

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Tadas
May 27, 2016, 8:04 am

Hi Meryem, I don’t remember what Vit E I took. Just get any reputable
brand and you’ll be fine. I was on the full protocol for a bout a month, you
just gave to gage how your system responds and how you feel.

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meryem mouhid
May 26, 2016, 9:21 pm

Re Tadas,
Sorry i forget to ask you something lol, did you eat meat during this period? is it
bad to eat meat or fish during the protocol?
also what about eating dates, dry figs, prunes….do you think its bad , cause the
body its depleted it needed some vitmanins …thanks a lot
mery

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Tadas
May 27, 2016, 8:08 am

Hi again, I don’t feel there’s any science to this. Just pick easier to digest
meats like poultry and fish, especially if it’s local. Dried froods shoud be
tolerated well but again, make note how they are processed. Most dried fruit
in stores have quite a few preservatives on them so again, stay as natural
and organic as you can while the digestive track is so sensitive. Drink lots of
fluids, that’s key. Good luck, hope you recover soon.

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meryem mouhid
May 27, 2016, 9:45 am

Hi,
i want to order VSL3 probiotic from USA to CA, but the probiotic need to be
refrigerated because its live culture,i need to ship it to Morocco ( at least 8-9
days) Im wondering if the shipping without refrigeration make the product less
effective.thanks

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Tadas
May 27, 2016, 9:51 am

Yeh, that could be an issue, unless they send it via some international
courrier the DHL. Are you sure you can’t find anything local? I would pick
most potent brand from your local pharmacy and give it a try.

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meryem mouhid
May 30, 2016, 8:37 pm

yes thats a problem refrigerated probiotics, im thinking o do kefir instead or


this products with 50 billions, whats do you think about biom plus probiotic
(http://amzn.to/1sIaJl7) i dont think its refrigerated but seemed ok, but for
sure i will send him the dry kefir grains and make mom to make him kefir daily
, what do you think. thanks a million. meryem

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Tadas
May 31, 2016, 10:22 am

There’s a whole science when it comes to probiotics so I can’t say whether


this will work for sure but it meets the criteria for being potent and diverse.
Reviews seem to be good too, if anyone can truly judge these things Give
it a try.

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Meryem
May 31, 2016, 9:11 pm

Hope you doing well, can you tell me when did you take the aloe vera fillet and
juice? And olive leaf and apple cider before or after meal, was the vit e and d

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help you a lot a guess, that’s good, yes my bro said his kidney or liver hurt, he
said he feel like bloating in is kidney area, do you think its gallbladder….thanks
a lot for answering evey time, that’s so kind of you, Meryem

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Tadas
June 2, 2016, 6:23 pm

Hi, Aloe Vera before or between meals meals, same with olive leaf. Don’t
combine too many things at once, especially things like apple cider. Not
sure about your brother but it sounds like he needs a good medical exam
with blood work, etc. to rule out anything obvious. My general rule when
there’s any stomach ailments is to eat well, avoid raw vegetables (too hard
on digestion) and take a very good probiotic. Please seek professional advice
about his condition, no reason to guess or experiment. Good luck

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ramkumar nagaraj
June 2, 2016, 7:12 pm

Dear Tadas Sir,


Do u knwo if broccoli can help fight h pylori? I am taking mastic gums and raw
coconut oil, while stomach is a lil better it is not gone completely.
What kind of cooked veggies i must take to fight h pylori? I am willing to do
anything to get rid of this nasty bug? Is apple cider vinegar better?

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Tadas
June 3, 2016, 2:00 pm

Hi Ramkumar, I’m not sure about broccoli extract, please do more research.
Probably all veggies are fine as long as they’re lightly cooked for easier
digestion (Ayurveda recommends this). I’ve heard apple cider can be
effective too as past of the protocol but I haven’t tried it as the main tool
alone. Again, see if you can find more info about this on search engines. Be
patient, this will pass. Your body itself is trying to fight it even without you
helping it.

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ramkumar nagaraj
June 6, 2016, 12:20 pm

Dear Sir,

I am taking mastic gums and coconut oil daily, but its not helping much.
Obviously it takes time to show results, which is why im patient.

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Any other good supplements?


Can you pls explain what diet i must follow to wipe the h pylori off my
stomach? pls help
Any idea if cabbage juice can helop to fight this h pylori? pls help
rama

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Tadas
June 6, 2016, 7:10 pm

I’ve detailed what I could in the post Ramkumar, please do more


digging about cabbage juice. Do you have any practitioners of
natural medicine where you live? Give them a try.

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Charles La Rue
June 6, 2016, 3:48 am

Olive Leaf Extract:

Many benefits including heart health, antibacterial, antiviral, anti-cancer, anti-


diabetes, artery health, cholesterol health and many others. Specifically targets
H Pylori

I purchase mine from here:


http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-
alias%3Daps&field-keywords=east+park+research

http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2013/6/unexpected-benefits-of-olive-
leaf-extract/page-01

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ramkumar nagaraj
June 22, 2016, 3:39 pm

Dear Tadasa,

I am taking lots of coconut oil and also that mastic gum and i see zero
improvmnt. Do you think i can shift to something else perhaps aloe vera and
DGL licorice tablets?

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Tadas
June 22, 2016, 9:19 pm

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You see zero improvement because it’s not so simple. If it was, I would have
said that the protocol requires only two ingredients. Anyways, I just
updated this article and included Turmeric as something to try for sure if
you can not obtain the rest of the supplements. As far your other question:
don’t shift, just add those two to the protocol. Also DGL is not necessary,
unless you have blodd pressure issues, the regular type of licorice is a more
complete product and could be more effective overall.

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A
August 5, 2016, 8:22 pm

Hi,
Thank you for all this information – hoping to cure mine naturally as well and
my naturopath’s protocol matches 99% of yours, so I think I will add the
monolaurin. Had a question about the section regarding avoiding filtered water.
What do you suggest? Just drinking water from your tap and ditching the Brita
pitcher or purchasing something? If purchase, what would you recommend and
from where?

Thank you!

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Tadas
August 6, 2016, 10:52 am

Hi, as you know, water quality can differ from town to town, country to
country. Get your tap water tested or call your municipality to ask about the
levels of chlorine, etc. I personally allow to sit regular tap water in a glass
pitcher for a day and drink it. I also use filtered water to make tea. I
wouldn’t worry about water too much unless you know your town has poor
quality for some reason.

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Liz
August 22, 2016, 2:37 am

Did you take PPI’s while having these natural treatments? I have to be on one
because i have an ulcer in my esophagus and constant burning in my throat and
stomach. Apparently my ulcer isn’t caused by h pylori but by my reflux.
Although i do have h pylori!
I just didn’t want the ppi to ruin all the good work I’m doing

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Tadas
August 22, 2016, 8:13 am

Hi Liz, from what I remember, I didn’t take any during the protocol. Not
sure how that would effect the success of the treatment via these natural
methods but it’s always a balancing act. Try it all with PPIs if you have to
and then continue without as soon as you feel you can do without the PPIs.
The supplements in the protocol should still do their job against pylori, the
only question is how effective they will be but time will show. All these
supps should also help your ulcer, especially Aloe Vera gel. Good luck and
get well soon!

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Linda Sherman
September 22, 2016, 3:58 pm

Hi,
Thank you for this information.
I have poor quality tap water, so drinking bottled water is also bad? What is a
good source of water in this instance? I have been drinking purified water….
Linda

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Tadas
September 22, 2016, 6:03 pm

Hi Linda, I wouldn’t worry about water if you’re getting it from some


reputable co. and it has minerals in it. Purified could mean very little
minerals so I would check if I were you. On the other hand, if you eat
healthy and get a variety of food in your diet then you should be getting
enough minerals. Do look into magnesium supplementation however as
many of us seem to be defficient.

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Charles Robertson
September 29, 2016, 11:30 pm

Hi Tadas

Thank you so much for sharing this. I have been looking for a comprehensive,
logical & honest review on this subject.

I was told 6 years ago after a gastroscopy that I was H.Pylori+, and recently I
have been experiencing pain in my duodenum. The doctor has just done a test,
to see if I am still H.Pylori+.

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If it turns out that I have a suspected ulcer, I will try your protocol first.
I am very determined and will adhere to your protocol with great discipline.
I am sure this is the right way to go.

So, I have already got some of your items, like Manuka Honey UMF20 & the
probiotics. I am using a different probiotic called ‘Primal Flora’, as I am little
concerned by the strength of the VSL#3. This maybe a mistake, as the probiotic
might be the key to this protocol, but I figure, I can always try your
recommendation second time round, if my version does not work. The probiotic
I am using only has a 20 billion count per serving rather than the VSL#3’s 112
billion, but I will give it go.

Thanks so much for your help.

I will let you know what happens in a couple of months time, whether the
results are good or bad?

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Tadas
October 1, 2016, 8:18 am

Hi Charles, it is quite possible VSL pribiotic is an overkill and your choice


might work just as well. Most importantly is to deal with biofilm and kill of
the bacteria. Good luck.

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Wendy
November 28, 2016, 9:12 pm

Hi, I’m here because I believe I’ve once again been hit with a resurgance of H
Pylori after antibiotics. I’m not sure if anyone can ever eradicate permanently
forever. I mean 50% of the population has it, and the chances of getting it again
are pretty good.

Just an observation – I had a negative stool test last time, and a positive biopsy
test from the endoscopy. So stool is definitely not foolproof. I’ve heard the
breath test is the most accurate next to having a biopsy during endoscopy.

And also the Olive leaf – I’m not sure it’s a good idea. I think some of these
things kill off the good bacteria too – if it’s a natural “antibiotic” that is. I know
oil of oregano can kill off good bacteria (not mentioned here) because it is a
natural antibiotic. But then, I’ve not looked into olive leaf much.

I was just here trying to figure out whether to use VSL or mastic gum. I’m not
big into taking a thousand supplements. My body doesn’t react very well. Mastic
gum didn’t work much for me last time. I never used VSL for THIS issue. My

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last bout, after taking the triple antibiotics and feeling like I was going to die
and then for it NOT to work, and taking acid blockers – and which threw me
into diabetic level blood sugar levels, it’s the last thing I am willing to do.

Interestingly I had idiopathic adrenal failure (short term) prior to my getting


the whole gastritis/h pylori diagnosis. I have had gut problems a long time, and
always take my b-12 and Vit D sublingually – both of which I was very low on at
some point.

I think from what I recall last time that what helped me most was carrot juice,
Metagenics ultraclear (very expensive so not willing to do this again, and I think
DGL licorice. I targeted more from a gut healing perspective. Not sure if I really
got rid of the H pylori, as I never had a follow up test. I think glutamine sources
to heal gut can really help. And cutting the carbs because they feed the bad gut
bacteria.

I still struggle with adrenal problems, but I was on steroids for a short period
and weaned off. I think generally I’ve come a long way till recently with this
bout of….who knows what.

Very frustrating that because I was forced to take antibiotics for something else,
my whole gut has been turned upside down.

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Tadas
November 30, 2016, 6:35 pm

Hi Wendy, I took have had my share of mysterious symptoms over the past
three years and still trying to get to the bottom of it but it is all related to our
gut and nervous system health. I know that most people have H Pylori and
it doesn’t cause any problems but I think that is because they have strong
immune system and strong adrenal health. Plus I developed bad insomnia
and then things really went down hill. I have read that H Pylori may not
manifest with traditional symptoms and may in fact cause leaky gut and
autoimmune issues at which point it because exceedingly difficult to
pinpoint the source of one’s poor health. Anyways, many answers can be
found in testing and yes the endoscopy with biopsy is most accurate. I think
mastic gum should be no problem for you, certainly less problematic then
another antiobotic. Why not try go the natural route? Yes there are many
antifungals, including oregano oil that you mentioned but it’s not necessary
to take them oil. Key thing is brake down the bio-film with enzymes and
then blast it with monolaurin and mastic gum. Olive Leaf is a natural
antibiotic and it will not destroy your good bacteria, I’ve taken it many
times. Do take a quality probiotic but make sure you don’t have SIBO as
that can make things worse. My friendly advice would be get off antibiotics,
do the gut healing protocol and the thing that helped me most to recover my
energy levels was daily Qi Gong which helps to fill the body with energy

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which then balances things out with our health. Hope you figure this stuff
out soon!

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Jason
December 15, 2016, 10:44 pm

Hey,

Just wanted to see if you’re still answering to posts on your site. Been dealing
with bloating, flatulence, and feelings of distention in the abdomen. Going for
my endoscopy next week. I tested negative for the h. Pylori breath test. Just
want to know how things are with you now? I’m also dealing with shotty
adrenals and i don’t handle stress or much of anything well.

Thanks

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Tadas
December 16, 2016, 5:34 pm

Hi Jason, let me know what you find out from your endoscopy, OK? I’m
having very similar issues. If your gut looks all fine then you might be
having methylation issues which have to do with the function of your liver.
This is what I’m boiling it all down to – allergic reactions due to weakened
liver function which is constantly draining the adrenals. I’ve tried a ton of
supplements but this time it’s not as easy as dealing with H Pylori. I’m now
working with a homeopathic practitioner and will give this a shot – she does
see the same issues that I’ve boiled down to over the years – allergic
reactions to various foods (histamine intolerance) and compromised liver
(even though all tests show normal ranges).

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Jason
December 17, 2016, 5:05 pm

Hey Tadas,

Will keep you posted on how it goes! Goodluck to you and all the best!
My liver enzymes have been slightly elevated for some time. Hoping
that goes down because it has decreased since last month. Take care and
talk to you soon!

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Tadas
December 18, 2016, 9:31 am

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There you go Jason, this makes sense. Even slight variations in liver
function can cause serious health and gastro issues. If you’re not
doing this yet, look into a quality silymarin supplement and try
roasted dandelion root coffee daily – these two are awesome for
restoring liver function, you’ll feel it within a couple of weeks. There
are some other good liver support formulas, give them a try.

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Charles Robertson
December 18, 2016, 1:48 pm

Hi Tadas. Just to let you know, your regimen has worked. Thank
you. I used slightly different probiotics [only 12 billion spores].
And I eat beetroot soup every day, which has strengthened my
liver & gallbladder. I make the soup fresh using 8 beetroot. This
lasts me for 6 lunches:

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Tadas
December 18, 2016, 6:34 pm

Excellent, glad to hear Charles. I wish I could call it is “my”


regiment but it isn’t. This was a protocol similar to what some
others reported on their sites, I only modified it a bit based on
my needs back then. It makes sense that less nuclear pro-biotic
than VSL worked just as fine. Smart move on supporting your
liver in the process. I only learned later in life how important it
is to give some love to this organ and how vital it is in our
general health. Be well.

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Renata
December 30, 2016, 11:42 pm

Hi. Just wanted to say thank you for all this sharing. I just got diagnosed and
prescribed Flagyl and another antibiotic plus bismuth I think. It really scares
me to take that for two weeks. Especially since many people have this and no
problem. My PCP and GI doctors agreed that I could try natural protocol and
then do a stool test. But during an endoscopy the GI doctor saw gastritis and
pushed for the antibiotics saying that even if the stool test come back negative
after the herbs there could still be H Pylori. And as I am doing research it seems
that H Pylori could be behind a lot more issues than only digestive ones. I guess
I am wondering if doing the antibiotics would get rid of it once and for all. I am

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feeling very overwhelmed and undecided.

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Tadas
December 31, 2016, 12:23 pm

Renata, first of all please don’t worry. You can do one at a time and see how
things work. Antibiotics is a by far NOT a sure thing and many report their
symptoms come back, sometimes worse, due to gastritis flaring up after
anti-acids are stopped but for many it works and they have no more
problems. Anyways, if you do the antibiotics your good inestinal flora will
be wiped out as well, compromising your immune system even further.
Listen to your mama’s advice – always try the natural way and then listen to
the doctor :-). It is true that h pylori can be behind a variety of issues but it
is also true that half of the population has it but it does not cause any
problems. You better ask yourself what caused it to spread into the gastro
tract and cause problems? Usually it’s the weakened immune system and
lifestyle full of stress and wrong food. How did you get diagnosed?

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Naz
January 14, 2017, 7:53 am

3 days into this treatment I had normal size but green stool, and today my
fourth day into the treatment, my whole abdominal area hurts, and I barely had
a bowel movement. Several pebbles and are still green. I don’t want to stop
treatment, but I need to if I do not get a fast response telling me it is a normal
reaction to these supplements..Thanks for your reply

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Naz
January 14, 2017, 8:01 am

The third day into this treatment, yesterday, I had a normal sized but green
stool. Today, fourth day in the treatment, I have whole abdominal pain and
discomfort, plus I had constipated stool that is still green. I was doing fine
before this treatment. I just wanted to get rid of h pylori naturally after a failed
triple therapy attempt. I am thinking of stoping this treatment but would prefer
not too, since I have already started. I would appreciate your response on
wether this is a normal reaction or not. Thank you for your help.

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Tadas
January 14, 2017, 3:30 pm

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Hi Naz, what else are you taking besides Monolaurin, probiotic, mastic
gum, and Interfase? Have you been clearly diagnosed with H Pylori? Non of
these products, including Manuca honey can be causing green stool, unless
you have other issues, but H pylori. Stomach discomfort is normal, I had it
too but in case it gets too discomforting, I would suggest cut all your
supplements in half and continue on a more mild regiment. Once
discomfort eases it might be alright to up it a notch. Use your own
judgement on this. Keep in touch.

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Naz
January 14, 2017, 3:58 pm

Thank you very much for your fast response. I was diagnosed with
pylori via endoscopy. I have mild gastritis but no of ulcers. I take the
1000mg X2 mastic and 1200mg X2 monolaurin (both morning and
night on empty stomach). I also take probiotics that I usually take, the
“raw garden for life for men” 85 billion probiotics (spread out thought
the day with food), I also added 30mins after mastic and monolaurin
the probiotic reuteri 5 billion mixed with a couple of other probiotics X2
on empty stomach with manuka honey as well. I also take the following
supplements, buffered vitamin C 1000mg, 1000mg raw Vitamin D3,
“garding for life” raw multi vitamin, gastrazym, all with food. I initially
thought it could be the gastrazym, but I took only one pill a day for 3
days and decided to not take it the fourth day to see what happens.
I currently thought maybe I should just continue with mastic gum X2
1000mg and I am stopping the gastrazym, and reuteri probiotic. I will
continue with mastic and vitamins as well as the raw probiotics so I
know which of the supplements are causing this. I thought to start
adding 600mg monolaurin, a few days after a few normal stools. But the
issue could be mastic, I’m not sure. I also heard that mastic can cause
malabsorption and shouldn’t be taken for more than 2-3 weeks at a
time. Is that true? In that cause how would I finish this treatment if by
the time I reintroduce the full monolaurin dosage I would have stopped
the mastic. Thanks for reading my lengthy post. I wanted to give as
much info as possible. I think I contracted the bacteria about 20 years
ago, but without any symptoms until about 8 years ago I started having
some on and off constipation which I ignored cause Dr was saying eat
fiber. I was otherwise energetic and healthy but with a stressful life.

Thanks again

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Tadas
January 14, 2017, 8:29 pm

Naz, your garden of life supplement or the Gastrazyme product that

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might be contributing to your stool color. Read all the ingredient


and see. You seem to be missing one of the most important
supplements – the enzyme formula (Interfase Plus) or similar. I
din’t think it’s the mastic gum but I can’t be 100% sure. I took
mastic gum for a month and a half without problems, it is suppose
to help heal your gut. Stressful life will cause a range of health
issues, as you know so that would be my priority. Hang in there.

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Madina
April 20, 2017, 1:57 pm

Hi Tadas,

Thank you so much for taking your time and describing this whole experience
in details.
I’m going to start following your protocol next week, and I have a question:
what kind of food did you actually eat while being on this treatment?
Thank you very much

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Tadas
April 21, 2017, 5:08 pm

Hi Madina,

Do you have gastritis as well? Just take it easy on acidic things like
tomatoes, vinegars (except for apple cider vinegar), red meat and
inflammatory food like cow’s milk products (goat is OK – different casein
type) and glutenous grains. Don’t eat late (latest 6pm) so you give your
digestive system some rest). Take care.

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Stephanie
May 1, 2017, 4:51 am

Hello

I still have Hpylori and its been a year and half now. I tried all kinds of herbs
and my stomach is still burning really bad. My body is weak and weight
dropping down to 100lbs. I want to try this protocol because nothing is
working. My body is allergic to milks but do need to know what other protency
probiotic that can be used beside VSL 3. Also how do you detox yourself from
the toxics instead of olive oils and Manuka honey is sweet would that feed the
Hpylori? My WBC are dropping and bones are aching, do you have any

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suggestions to prevent this from happening? Thanks!

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Stephanie jones
May 1, 2017, 4:53 am

Hello

I still have Hpylori and its been a year and half now. I tried all kinds of herbs
and my stomach is still burning really bad. My body is weak and weight
dropping down to 100lbs. I want to try this protocol because nothing is
working. My body is allergic to milks but do need to know what other protency
probiotic that can be used beside VSL 3. Also how do you detox yourself from
the xtoxics instead of olive oils and Manuka honey is sweet would that feed the
Hpylori? My WBC are dropping and bones are aching, do you have any
suggestions to prevent this from happening? Thanks!

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Tadas
May 1, 2017, 2:03 pm

Hi Stephanie, when you say “nothing is working,” what do you mean by


that? I mean, what have you tried already? Did your labs confirm H Pylori?
I think only things like candida an yeast are fed by sugars, H Pylori doesn’t
need sugars to survive so you should be fine with honey. Just substitute the
probiotic with some other trusted brand, you should be fine but I would also
include natural probiotics from kefir, kim-chi, yogurt, etc. If your WBC is
dropping due to H Pylori then eradicating the infection will help but I would
work with some experienced clinician to monitor your progress. Eat what
Chinese Medicine calls spleen supporting diet: eat light. This means smaller
portions, precooked veggies and fruits (to ease digestion load), white meat.
Avoid most grains (especially gluten type), fried foods, spicy foods, alcohol,
and cow dairy. Just go for it and you’ll be well in no time.

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Renata
May 15, 2017, 11:02 am

Hello, could you please advice how to use the mastic gum, monolaurin and zinc-
carnosine together? In the morning I take first the mastic gum on empty
stomach, after that monolaurin with breakfast. And the zinc-carnosine? I read
that it should be taken on empty stomach for h.pylori. So should I take it after
the mastic gum? How long should I wait? Thank you!

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Tadas
May 17, 2017, 6:59 pm

Hi Renata, not sure about zinc-carnosine – I have no experience with it. I


took mastic gum and monolaurin together on empty stomach and had no
problems.

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kate
July 14, 2017, 1:06 am

thank you very much for your information i will prove the protocol you
recommend. i am trying to eliminate this bacteria for almost 3 years but i think
i have it since i was s child. I’ve tried many methods to cure myself. Slophatic
medicine, naturophsty, chinese medicine, biomagnetic pair, reconection, reiki,
development of mental power, healing with symbos and water and everything
has helped me. I’ve changed a lot because of this bacteria. Biodecodification
medicine or new germanic medicine talks about helicobacter pylori..what
means this bacteria emotionally. I will write to you soon. Infinite thanks

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Tadas
July 14, 2017, 7:54 pm

Kate, many people have it, if not most but it does not cause a problem. I
now think this happens mostly because of poor digestion fire. Chinese
medicine call this spleen deficiency. This protocol will help to strengthen
digestion but I would now also recommend TCM spleen tonifying herbal
formulas like Codonopsis & Astragalus to bring energy back to our digestion
organs and push H Pylori out of places it doesn’t belong.

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Kat
August 30, 2017, 12:36 am

Hi,

I’ve had diarrhoea/ loose toilet visits for 6 weeks with lower abdominal & now
general tummy knawing pain & fatigue , I tested positive for h pylori with a
stool test a few wks ago, one round of antibiotics failed to sort it out. Coffee/
live yoghurt & some cheese seem to make it a lot worse with urgent toilet trips
needed.
I’m going to start with the above supplements but the doctors have me v
confused I’ve seen 3 now, the last 2 don’t seem to think my symptoms are
related to h pylori (even though I tested positive) and the antibiotics should
have cleared it up. Now they are wanting me to have colonoscopy, mri and ct

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scans. Which I’m very worried about. Is diarrhoea / change to loose stools a
symptom of h pylori?

Also I took apple cider vinegar last night for the first time & my tummy pains
seemed worse today, does it not agree with everyone?

Thanks for your help Kat

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Tadas
August 30, 2017, 1:52 pm

Hi Kat, you may very likely have H Pylori concurrent with some other
issues. Makes sure to test for parasites before you start any protocols. I
would be very careful with antibiotics before having a complete picture as to
what’s going on. Is there anything that could have led you to this condition?

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Kat
August 30, 2017, 3:15 pm

Thanks for replying, it started all of a sudden one day 6 wks ago I just
started with diarrhoea & mild ab cramps & it’s carried on from there
being mainly loose with the occasional solid trip . I have had about 12
months of getting myself pretty stressed up about various things, so I
wondered if that could have contributed. The doctor has tested for some
parasites but I’m not sure which, is there any tests you’d recommend?
Does H Pylori cause diarrhoea / looseness?

Thanks Kat

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Tadas
August 31, 2017, 10:26 am

Hi Kat, well intense stress will do that. In fact, it can ruin our
digestion and disturb microbiome. If you tested for most common
parasites and only have H Pylori then I suppose diarrhea is possible
but I didn’t have it. Most likely you have what Traditional Chinese
Medicine calls “Spleen Deficiency” aka weak digestion. Google
“spleen deficiency diet” and start with that – just precook your
veggies, eat light meats and fish, avoid hard to digest foods like
gluten, cow dairy, nuts, mushrooms and hard foods in general.
Avoid all raw for now. Add some warming spices like ginger, fennel,
cardamom, etc., specially some fermented things for probiotics and
see how you do. If you feel better then you know you have to be very
careful and nurture your digestion back to health. However, if things

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don’t improve then you need to dig deeper for parasites, pathogens,
dysbiosis, etc. Let me know how you do, OK?

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christine
February 12, 2018, 5:41 pm

Hi Tadas…
Thank you so much for sharing your journey. It is SO helpful to me and so
many! I decided to do triple therapy -Amoxicillin, Clarithromycin and PPI
Pantaprozole which is apparently the Gold Standard in meds for HP. I was
shocked at my diagnosis of mild gastritis and h pylori through endoscopy last
week though I knew I wasn’t feeling right for months. I actually feel I may have
had H pylori for a while since my food sensitivities became extreme over the
last 6 months but it wasn’t until i got gastritis that I started to feel awful after
eating. Doctor prescribed antibiotics. I have avoided antibiotics for 40 yrs so I
thought my body could handle it. They are powerful drugs and it’s taking it’s toll
on me with sleep disturbances, mental fog, etc…I’m on the 6th of a 14 day
course and will stick it out. I do feel much better with little pain – eating both
raw and boiled veggies now and half of what i was eating before. At the same
time, I am eating well with no gluten, dairy, soy, corn, meat (only fish and
chicken) and taking, Manuka honey (just a bit each day quells sugar cravings!).
Also eating sauerkraut/yogurt (no other dairy) and a 14 strain/50 billion
probiotic (Dr. Formulated Fitbiotic. organic with prebiotics) that contains 5 of
the strains studies say are best to treat HP…. Lacto-casei, Lacoo-gasseri, Lacoo
acidophilus, Lacto brevis and Bifidobacterium infantis. Maybe I should take VS
one you mentioned?
Is it stronger? I am wondering if the antibiotics will make taking Monolaurin
and Intrafase less effective so not sure about taking those until after 14 day
antibiotics. Main point is that I am doing lots of natural protocol WHILE on
antibiotics and am hoping it is still effective. Trying to make a plan for after the
antibiotic treatment to get my gut back into shape after the antib’s kill all my
good and bad bacteria. ***Doc says retesting won’t happen for 6-8 weeks after
antibiotics so wondering if your protocol would do me well right after this
“triple therapy”. I know this is a hard bacteria to beat so looking forward to
eating so much better from now on. I am hopeful I will beat this and be
healthier from now moving forward. Thanks again for taking the time to
engage.

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Tadas
February 12, 2018, 6:50 pm

Hi Christine, I would tough it out with the triple therapy too, now that you
started on it. For some people, it does the job. Plus, it sounds like you’re
doing a wonderful job supporting yourself through the process. VS is one of

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he strongest things out there but you might be fine with what you have. You
can always do this protocol if things don’t improve with your current
therapy.

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Sharon Cole
March 4, 2018, 8:10 pm

Tadas,
Thank you so much for sharing you experiences with eradicating this
nightmare. I had severe case of c-diff in 2007 after taking antibiotics for
possible colon resection. I was given Flagyl which didnt help and then
Vancomycin which cleared the infection. Since 2007, I have refused to take any
antibiotics. In 2010, I had endoscopy because of acid reflux and diagnosed with
chronic gastritis and H-pylori with intestinal metaplasia(precancerous lesions
of the stomach). At the time, I did not know the metaplasia meant precancerous
lesions. Dr. did not act concerned about the metaplasis as he did not even tell
me what it meant. He wanted me to take the quad therapy antibiotic treatment
for pylori, but I refused. I tried many natural supplements but none of had
worked. Fast forward to 2010, 2017, both scopes showed chronic gastritis with
pylori and intestinal metaplasia at which time he informed me of the
precancerous lesions and said pylori needed eradication with antibiotic
treatment. From researching, I now know that eradication of the pylori will
NOT reverse the metaplasia. It will slow its progress into stomach cancer but
not reverse the condition. I am going to start your regimen for the pylori but is
there any natural protocol for preventing the progression of the metaplasia into
stomach cancer? Are any of the supplements in your protocol contraindicated
for the metaplasia? Any other supplements you think would be of benefit for
both problems? Any way I can heal cell lining of stomach? Of course, I refuse
the antibiotics because of previous c-diff infection, but know I have to find
solution for the pylori changing the cells in my stomach lining into stomach
cancer.
Thank you for your help.

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Michelle
March 5, 2018, 12:19 am

Hello – Thank you so much for taking the time to share your information and
ask questions. I will make a long story short. I have had h pylori probably a
good part of my life and I have had stomach issues since I was a kid mainly
bloating, IBS and the past 2 years ulcer like pain arising every couple of
months. I tried antibiotics but had severe pain after 3 days so doc took me off.

I am now going the natural root and have been collaborating with others who

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have been doing the same with success. My plan is to take NAC (2000 mg/day),
Monolaurin (1800 mg)/day, Pylopass, S boulardii, Bio HPFx 6 caps, plant
enzymes, black cumin seed oil. It has been suggested to me to take
Bladderwrack but I’m concerned I may be more hyper than hypo. I want to
ensure I deal with the Biofilm but at the same time I don’t want to cause other
issues. Do you still feel Interfase or Interfase plus is safe and effective? and
would these be a good substitute for Bladderwrack. Thank you, Michelle

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Ati
January 4, 2019, 2:34 pm

Hi Michelle, did you manage to heal your HP infection? I am about to start


with Pylopass and I’m curious to know, if it works. Very little information is
available for this German product, but comments on Amazon are mainly
positive. I intended to apply NAC as well, but I cannot tolerate it, as it is
very acidic (pH is around 2,3). But on other hand destroying bio-film is
important.

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Linda
March 19, 2018, 8:04 pm

Mastic Gum & probiotics have helped me tremendously with my IBSD within
days I was well again! I have struggled with stomach issues for years.
Unfortunately, I had eaten a dessert & had some wine, & am now am back to
zero again (??). I will follow this forum & try the advice to see if I can get well
again, & try some f the additional healing herbs etc that the links were listed
here to buy on AMazon..Thank you all for your help & info, much appreciated.

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Linda
March 19, 2018, 9:12 pm

Please update me on all new info on this thread…thank you!

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Sunil Kumar
April 5, 2018, 6:26 pm

I am sick from last 6 months. problem started with lot of gas and weakness and
later swelling in my stomach and trouble passing stool and gas.
Diagnosed with H pylori 3 months back and completed one week triple therapy.
Problem increased with back pain and 8KG weight loss.

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gone through Endoscopy and colonoscopy last month and still I am positive for
H.Pylori and results shown Chronic Gastrists and Intestinal Metaplasia. still
loosing more weight and completed second triple therapy treatment for 2 weeks
with no success. I have appointment with Gastronologiest after one month now.

Can someone please suggest, I am near to leave my job due to regular sickness
and bad health.

any suggestion would be much appreciated please

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Lauretta
April 6, 2018, 8:54 pm

Hi Sunil
I also had hpylori and the antibiotics did nothing. So I took Matula tea for a
month and took interfase plus and nac half an hour before the tea. I also
took 3G of colostrum a day and zinc carnosine as that stops the bacteria
from burying itself in the stomach wall. I also took a probiotic vsl#3. This
cleared up my hpylori after 30 days. Good luck

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Ivor
March 1, 2019, 7:23 am

Hi Lauretta,
Could you give more details about the dosage please?
How many Interfase Plus, NAC and Zinc Carnosine you took?

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Ann
July 27, 2018, 10:08 am

Hello. Thanks to all for sharing their stories- gives me hope that I may be able
to overcome what appears to be very persistent hpylori (did not resolve after 2
rounds of antibiotics so I am searching for natural cure). Can someone provide
specific brands they took of herbal protocol like which brand of monolaurin,
manuka, etc supplements and/or links to buy? Thx!

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Tadas
July 27, 2018, 7:06 pm

Hi Ann, if you try the links I provided they will lead you to specific products
and brands that I used. Good luck.

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Ann
July 27, 2018, 7:54 pm

Thx. Did you take protocol above for 30 or 45 days? And what side
effects did you experience? (I.e. effects of antibiotics are well known but
not so much on supplements so am curious as to what to expect). Lastly,
I am curious if you may have tried and/or looked into pine nut oil? I
didn’t see it on your list but curious if it came up in your research? Thx!

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Ann
July 27, 2018, 8:00 pm

Thx! Did you take protocol for 30 or 45 days? Also what specific side effects did
you experience? (Effects of antibiotics are well known but not so much on
herbal supplement side so I am curious as to what to expect)

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Tadas
July 27, 2018, 9:15 pm

About 30 days and don’t remember any side-effects but I was pretty healthy
overall and tolerate supplements pretty well. You can try and introduce one
supplement at a time – couple of days to see how you do and then add
another.

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Chantal
November 3, 2018, 9:12 pm

How long i have to be on this protocol to kill H.Pylori

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Tadas
November 6, 2018, 8:32 pm

Hi, it took me a bit more than one month.

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Museaddict
November 11, 2018, 7:34 pm

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I think Monolaurin is a biofilm like Interfase

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Alfred
November 14, 2018, 6:41 am

Hi Tadas,
Thanks for your wonderful experience. You mentioned that the InterFase Plus
are to be taken twice a day before meals on an empty stomach. 1st time is after
breakfast and before lunch. And the 2nd time is before dinner time. Each time
two capsules. Is that right order?
I have problem of getting InterFase Plus from Amazon because of shipment, so
I got Biofilm Defense from iHerb according to your link. Is it similar to
InterFase Plus? According to the recommendation of the product, it’s one
capsule per day. Is it sufficient? Thanks.

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Tadas
November 14, 2018, 5:56 pm

Hi Alfred, I would use and dose Biofilm Defence same way I recommend
dosing Interfase. I would take one before each meal. One is not going to cut
it.

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Alfred
November 14, 2018, 6:22 pm

Thanks. That mean one cap together with the Manuka honey before breakfast,
lunch & dinner. Total of 3 caps each day.

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Tadas
November 14, 2018, 6:24 pm

Sounds like a plan.

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Tad
March 15, 2019, 4:46 am

2 yearsof suffering -let me save you alot of pain and grief-


I have done all of this, tried EVERYTHING, been to 6 doctors had numerous
tests and they say you have IBS,you have IC, you have stomach ulcers,

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blablabla…… they gave me meds that made me sicker in other ways.Then one
day I read “the Clever Gut” I started using natural products and noting how
they made me feel. I even wrote down how I felt after eating certain foods.I
learned that artificial sweeteners and Splenda can ruin your gut and drinking
tap water can also do the same. Everyone is different but I found several things
that I alternate in use that seem to help Berberine,Matcha Tea, Fulvic Acid,
Irish Sea Moss,Oolong and Hisbiscus tea, and Usnea along with resistant
starch, green bananas and probiotics .Slowly over a few weeks really gave me
some relief. I learned how to add pepper, Licorice , Ginger and Vitamin c tofood
and supplements to boost the effectiveness.All natural foods abdominal
cramping and aches are disappearing.

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Tadas
March 15, 2019, 11:34 am

Hi Tad, glad you found some relief. From what I hear you’re not healed yet.
Everything in this protocol is natural and it works for H Pylori. Sounds like
you’re dealing with much more. What you use are effective because most of
your supplements are anti-fungal which seems you could be dealing with
candida.

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Charles Robertson
March 15, 2019, 11:37 am

That’s great Tad. Like you, I tried everything under the sun and then I
decided to experiment. Eventually I hit on my cure. Beetroot soup. I make a
fresh batch every week. I use mainly beetroot with a few carrots, ginger,
garlic and some roasted tomatoes to add sweetness. Within 2 months my
symptoms had almost disappeared. I have been eating beetroot soup, for
lunch, ever since. Apparently, root vegetables cleanse the liver & gall
bladder. I try not to eat any processed sugar. Fruit sugar & honey are fine. I
have almost cut out wheat & bread from diet. In terms of meat, I only eat
sea food & fish, but sparingly.

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Tadas
March 15, 2019, 2:45 pm

There you go, Charles. Liver toxicity can cause various digestion issues.
Glad you found your cure. Have you tried juicing celery and drinking on
empty stomach in the morning? Try it and you should see even better
improvements.

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Charles Robertson
March 15, 2019, 5:18 pm

I will give that a go & let you know what happens. Celery is an
amazingly powerful vegetable in terms of the positive benefits, it has
on the body. Thanks for advice.

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John
June 6, 2019, 10:59 am

I sped read your article so excuse me if you mentioned this. Have you done a
gallstone cleanse? Because if you haven’t, I would hazard a guess that they are
what is causing your ongoing problems now that you have rid yourself of the
pylori. My problems went away after I did a gallstone cleanse, best thing I ever
did.

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Tadas
June 6, 2019, 7:42 pm

Yes, I did John but much later on. It didn’t help. My root cause is mercury
toxicity and I’m addressing that with chelation therapy.

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Nikki
September 18, 2019, 10:19 pm

Can I ask how you found you had mercury toxicity???

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Tadas
September 20, 2019, 1:46 pm

Hi Nikki, lots of testing, trial and error but ultimately by safely


removing all my amalgam fillings and starting a chelation protocol.
Ever since I feel like my health is slowly returning to me. Definitely
look into it. You can also do a hair test and post it for someone to
interpret on Andy Cutler chelation forum on FB. If you want to read
more about mercury feel free to read on my other blog:
http://insomniacnextdoor.com/mercury-toxicity/how-to-tell-you-
have-a-hidden-mercury-toxicity-health-crisis/

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August 15, 2019, 8:55 am

Hi. Thanks for the information. Was reading that you might be suffering with
Lyme’s disease. Cistus incarnus tea with whole least Stevia kills the Lyme’s.

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Susan
October 2, 2019, 7:42 pm

I’m just beginning this journey of possible ulcer. I’m hoping to have a scope
next week. Until then I’m taking Carafate 4xs a day and Nexxium 2xs a day.
After reading your article I ordered mastic gum. When would be the best time
to take it? And with what meds?
Thanks!

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Tadas
October 13, 2019, 12:15 pm

Hi Susan, have you figured out the cause behind the ulcer? Nexxium is
more like a patch so try to address it mostly with a diet. If it H-Pylori then
mastic gum alone won’t be enough, you’ll have to try the protocol. I took
mastic gum on empty stomach, at least half hour before food.

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Lillian
December 21, 2019, 12:19 pm

Good day.

I have also have the H Pylori bacteria and i really suffer from burning pains
especially at night. The first course of antibiotics made me so sick i was
admitted in hospital and they gave me a pantoprazole instead omaprazole? Now
the prescribed new antibiotics and im too afraid to drink it. My other doctor
told me i must drink mastic gum and eat raw honey. So i feel like i want to try
the natural stuff rather than taking antibiotics again. Is the natural stuff a 100%
guarantee?

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Tadas
December 26, 2019, 7:55 pm

There are never guarantees but this protocol helped countless people
already. Mastic gum and raw honey alone may not be enough. Every
ingredient in this protocol has a good purpose.

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Rahul
March 8, 2020, 2:35 am

Hi Tadas,

Firstly thank you for a comprehensive article. Thanks to all others who have
commented too. It’s helpful

Tadas: Are you still active on this page?

I did Quadruple Therapy for Helicobacter pylori Infection and on 4th day I felt
awful. I started to develop Tinnitus on 3rd day of anti-biotics.
Did not continue the treatment. Did a breath test and it obviosily came back
+ve (Note: Before Quadruple Therapy blood test showed -ve)

Manuka honey does wonders for h Pylori but not sure it eradicates it. But with
other things in your protocol it may work!

Also brocolli sprouts makes it inactive.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15387326

I am about to start the protocol but with little variation. since I cannot get same
products here in Canada.

Manuka Honey -> Kiva Certified UMF 20+ (MGO 850+), Raw Manuka Honey
– New Zealand (250 gr)
probiotic -> biokplus https://www.biokplus.com/blog/en_CA/gut-
health/understanding-peptic-ulcers-h-pylori-and-the-connection-to-gut-
dysbiosis

Question to Tadas: You say to “Take the probiotic and eat a healthy meal, take
Monolaurin with your meal.”

So probiotic and Monolaurin are taken immediately before the meals?

Question to Lydia: Did you test for H pylori?

Thanks again!

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Tadas
March 15, 2020, 10:36 am

Hi Rahul, thank you for your insights. I believe the answer is yes and here is
my reasoning: I wanted the supplements to be in contact with the H Pylori

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and not be diluted with other foods. Please work to strengthen your
immune system at the same time. Good luck!

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Rahul
March 18, 2020, 3:35 pm

Tadas: When I went to get biokplus, I was told that for h pylori ..dairy free
probiotics is preferred. I am looking for it

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Tadas
March 21, 2020, 9:28 am

Get well and keep in touch.

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