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by Ernest Ampadu (Instructor) - Wednesday, 13 November 2019, 11:46 AM

Discussion Assignment
One of the largest issues in ancient mathematics was accuracy—nobody had calculators
that went out ten decimal places, and accuracy generally got worse as the numbers got
larger. The famous Eratosthenes experiment, that can be found
at https://www.famousscientists.org/eratosthenes/, relied on the fact known to
Thales and others that a beam of parallels cut by a transverse straight line determines
equal measure for the corresponding angles. Given two similar triangles, one with small
measurements that can be accurately determined, and the other with large
measurements, but at least one is known with accuracy, can the other two
measurements be deduced? Explain and give an example.
The similarity of triangles gives rise to trigonometry.
How could we understand that the right triangles of trigonometry with a hypotenuse of
measure 1 represent all possible right triangles? Ultimately, the similarity of triangles is
the basis for proportions between sides of two triangles, and these proportions allow for
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the calculations of which we are speaking here. The similarity of triangles is the
foundation of trigonometry.
Your Discussion should be a minimum of 250 words in length and not more than 750
words.
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by Richard Laak - Friday, 27 December 2019, 12:51 AM
We often denote that a right angle triangle always has one angle that equals to 90
degrees in a Trigonometry. And Trigonometry is usually the measurements of
triangles whereby we nd the the unknown part of the triangle using the available
values or angles of the 2 sides present.
Before the evolution of technology, in the ancient time the original purpose of
Trigonometry was for easy navigation of the astronauts in the space study, but has
land marks and displacement of human being and things evolved then the need for it
to be implemented in our daily lives then becomes a necessity in the eld of
Mathematics.
For a large number of a right angle triangle to be determined, the ancient

mathematicians used Pythagoras theorem and it really worked well for them as the
formula for the Pythagoras theorem was proven beyond reasonable doubts.
Let's take a scenario of a football pitch and carve out a large triangle from it, and a
small inch triangle with all sides known, when we plot them side by side and check the
di erence we will be able to nd the similarity of the triangles with the help of the
smaller triangles present. When the size of the triangle is determined then it is certain
that the result will be accurate.
With the help of theorems and various mathematical functions, we are able to
determine the required values with accuracy. When a magnitude and derivation of an
angle degree is determined then we are likely to get an accurate value.
As we know, trigonometry provides the degree and magnitude for larger numbers to
be easily calculated with accuracy using the pi function of the trigonometry formula.
For any given number, no matter how large the number is you are certain of arriving
to an accurate value with the help of theorems from the trigonometry functions. So,
with Trigonometry you can determine any value of a triangle either on large number
or small number.
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by Antonio Riemenschneider - Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 2:42 AM

Hi Richard,
This was very well put together and clear to the point. Like how you used the
football scenario. Keep up the great work.
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by Antonia Hermanus - Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 9:36 PM

Good day Richard.
Thank you for your submission. I've enjoyed reading your post although I would
have loved to see a physical illustration of your 2 triangles.
Kind regards
Antonia
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by Abdulqwai Naji - Thursday, 2 January 2020, 1:14 AM

Hi Richard,
excellent and keep up hard work
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by Mohammed Osman - Thursday, 2 January 2020, 7:40 AM

Hi Richard Laak, well done.
That is great work. Clear, simple and well explained.
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Best
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by Umme Jahan Mridula - Thursday, 2 January 2020, 7:42 AM

Hi Richard Laak,
You have really done a good job ! You have explained the concept of the question
very clearly and nicely , keep this up.
Keep this up,best of luck!
best regards,
Umme jahan mridula.
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by Nikola Pavlicevic - Friday, 27 December 2019, 5:50 AM

Basics of trigonometry (PLEASE CHECK ATTACHED FILE FOR GRAPHICS AND BETTER
FORMATTING)
Nikola Pavličević
2019/12/27
There are some trigonometry basics presented here alongside some proofs.
At rst let us consider example in gure 1 (chegg 2019). Here the idea is
to nd height of a building. It can be done using triangle similarity and
trigonometry. Triangle similarity is given rst and trigonometry after. This
is given through ratio
Next the idea is to establish actual ratios. This is given next and gure
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2 (natureofmathematics 2019) can be checked for more details.
Next let us look at height of a building using trigonometric identities. Ba-
sic identities are given for right angle triangle and these are cosine (adjacent
side over hypotenuse), sine (opposite side over hypotenuse) and tangent (opposite
side over adjacent side). In current example , r = 7.81,
, A = 40 degrees. Next
(almost same as before).
Next let us express trigonometric identities using symbols. This can be
seen in gure 3 (a circle of radius r and a right angle triangle, vcemethods12 2019).
Here
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Case is even simpler for unit circle (and right angle triangle having hypotenuse of
length one,
gure 4, stackexchange 2019). Here sin θ = y and cos θ = x.
References
chegg (2019). Check height of a building using triangle similarity. Online.
url: https://www.chegg.com/homework-help/use-similar-triangles-
solve - problem - see - example - 9 - height - bui - chapter - 13 . 8 -
problem-98ss-solution-9781133169123-exc.
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natureofmathematics (2019). Triangle similarity. Online. url: https : / /
natureofmathematics.wordpress.com/lecture-notes/thales/.
stackexchange (2019). A unit circle. Online. url: https://math.stackexchange.
com/questions/2673771/how-to-visualise-positive-and-negative-
tangents/2674255#2674255.
vcemethods12 (2019). A circle of radius r. Online. url: https://sites.
google . com / site / vcemethods12 / 6 --- power - functions / 6e ---
circles-and-semicircles.
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by Subhasish Nath - Tuesday, 31 December 2019, 9:01 PM
Hi Nikola,
Great sta man. I appreciate your answer so much. You have clearly explained
everything so good. I really appreciate how you have shown similarities in multiple
ways. I liked "establishing actual ratios" the most.
You've also expressed "trigonometric identities using symbols" beautifully.
Check out my post, where I've tried my best to explain.
Thanks for sharing :)
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Hi Nikola,
I enjoyed reading your post. This was thought through and detailed from start to
nish. Thank you for breakdown further than what I did and I understand better.
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by Richard Laak - Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 8:57 PM

Hi Nikola,
What a brilliant way to approach a topic of discourse. Good job mate and Happy
New Year as we Hit 2020 on a fresh note.
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Good day Nikola
Thank you for your outstanding submission. You have done a good job by
illustrating similar triangles and showing how they correspond.
Only one week left for us in this course!
Keep it up.
Antonia
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Dear Nikola,
good job and keep up hard work
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Hi Nikola Pavlicevic. Its great to show a brilliant post.
Its deep and show your remarkable skills. /

Keep up
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Hello Nikola Pavlicevic,
very clearly and nicely , with your trigonometrical idea.Nice job.
Keep this up,best of luck!
Best regards,
Umme Jahan Mridula
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by Esther James - Saturday, 28 December 2019, 12:08 AM

In Eratosthenes famous experiment, depend on the fact recognized by Thales and
others that a beam of parallels cut by a transverse straight line de nes the equal
measure for the corresponding angles ("The famous Eratosthenes experiment"). Also,
if two similar triangles, possess angle of square and had associated sharp angle. To
precisely recognize an edge of these triangle, I’ll assume the length and other triangle
angles;
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Let’s assume we have two parallel lines towards the gure, cut by the line EE' above,
to form two similar triangles. Then we had two z equal angles.
These triangle PIE, has;
sin z = [PI/PE]
cos z = [IE/PE]
The triangle PI'E', has;
sin z = [PI'/PE']
cos z = [I'E'/PE']
So, [PI/PE] = [PE'/PI’] and [IE/PE] = [I'E'/PE']
Assuming, z angle is 30degrees. PI = 4, PI' = 16
sin z = 1/2 = 4/PE = 16 / PE' -> PE = 8, PE' = 32
cos z = sqrt [3]/2 = IE / PE = I'E' / PE’ -> IE = 4*sqrt [3] , I'E' = 16*sqrt[3]
Now for each triangle, by measuring any of the edge and any angle, the remaining
edges can be calculated.
Trigonometry can be utilized on similar right triangles and these same right triangles
will have equal angles to one another. Thus, sin, cos, tan will aid the calculation of the
angle’s edges ratio measurements.
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The trigonometric characteristics behave in a similar way to multiple ID’s we can
"represent the same trigonometric expression" in various ways (Abramson, 2017,
p.696). Characters assist us to simplify di cult expressions which is the simple tools
of trigonometry utilized to solve trigonometric equations, like in factors, discovering
popular denominators, and applying speci c formulas are the simple tools useful for
resolving algebraic equations (Abramson, 2017).
The trigonometry foundation is made from a circle, the base triangle is in fact a
right triangle with a corresponding edge’s and the cycle radius is hypotenuse. When
we calculate the edges ratio we estimate the trigonometry of some distinctive
trigonometry angles. The right triangles trigonometry with a hypotenuse of measured
one represent all potential right triangles because the triangle is represented on a
circle via a radius in hypotenuse with a hypotenuse measured 1.
sin = opposite / hypotenuse
cos = adjacent / hypotenuse
tan = opposite /adjacent.
It constantly stands for a right triangle, even if we have large edge length, the ratio of
the edge’s lengths can be calculated by its angles in trigonometry.
References
Abramson, J. (2017). Algebra and trigonometry. OpenStax, TX: Rice University.

Retrieved from https://openstax.org/details/books/algebra-and-trigonometry
The famous Eratosthenes experiment. (n.d.). Retrieved December 28, 2019, from
https://www.famousscientists.org/eratosthenes/
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Hi Esther,
Great post this week. I'm glad that you've mentioned "Eratosthenes famous
experiment". I found it really helpful to understand the similarities between
triangles.
You have clearly mentioned that "The right triangles trigonometry with a
hypotenuse of measured one represent all potential right triangles because the
triangle is represented on a circle via a radius in hypotenuse with a hypotenuse
measured 1." But I feel the diagram could be much more helpful.
You can check out my answer where I've explained using diagrams.
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Thanks for sharing.
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Hi Esther,
Thanks for sharing. This has also helped me understand more about
the "Eratosthenes famous experiment". Keep up the great work.
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Hi Esther,
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Dear James,
excellent and keep up hard
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Hi Esther James, good job.
I like the hand writing graph you attached.
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Keep up the good work
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Hello.
very clearly and nicely , with your trigonometrical idea and work.It makes me glad
that you have work with Eratosthenes famous experiment.Its a masterpiece !
Nice job, keep it up ,
Best regards
Umme jahan Mridula
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by Razvigor Andreev - Tuesday, 31 December 2019, 5:23 AM

It always amazes me the accuracy of the ancient mathematics and how good and
ingenious they were through the ages.
One thing I wondered at rst - how did Eratosthenes know the exact time of the day
to compare the two - obviously they didn't have clocks at that time, besides sun-based
ones. Then I realized that if you look at the map the 2 cities are almost at the same
longitude, meaning that he already suspected the rotation of the earth around itself
and around the sun, knowing that the angle of the sun light changes relatively only in
one direction, from East to West. So because of that he took the shortest shadow of
the day to be the exact same time for both cities, which is relatively true, in the same
sense where the sun light rays are relatively parallel to each-other and perpendicular
to a tangent to the Earth at the shortest distance between the Earth and the Sun. It is
not scienti cally correct, but it's close enough for a pretty accurate measurement.
We know that for similar triangle the relationship between sides is the same ( sides
locked in between the same angles that is ). So for any 2 triangle that we know
everything about the rst and only 1 side of the second:
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image?w=624&h=223&rev=42&ac=1&parent=1_Z62ZzCqCZofFHBQ-
BxIk57PwSUufaACfPkJtj_zXhA
We can nd the sides of the larger triangle ( b and c ) by using the following
relationship:
16=2b=3c
We can easily conclude:
b=12
c=18
This is also very easy to proof. We already know that a triangle is de ned if we know 3
of it’s parameters ( 2 angles and 1 side or 1 angle and 2 sides ( angle needs to be
locked in between sides )
As we know that all the angles in the unknown triangle are the same as in the smaller
ones, we could use the SIN and COS formulas and the known side ( 6 ) to nd the rest.
I am not entirely sure what the second question/topic is, but I will talk about similarity
between right triangles with the same hypotenuse.
There are an unlimited number of di erent right triangles with the same hypotenuse,
but there are at least 2 things that can be said about the similarity between them:
They are all within a half-circle with diameter the hypotenuse and the 90° angle
lying on circumference.
The sum of the squares of the other 2 sides would be the same
I will try and illustrate below:
image?w=618&h=617&rev=115&ac=1&parent=1_Z62ZzCqCZofFHBQ-
BxIk57PwSUufaACfPkJtj_zXhA
All existing right triangles that have ‘a’ for the hypotenuse would be within that circle
and:
b2+d2= k2+l2= a2
Best Regards
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by Razvigor Andreev - Tuesday, 31 December 2019, 6:22 AM
Well, I just realized that the formulas didn't paste accurately and I can no longer
edit.
Really annoying, but here it is:
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Hi Razvigor,
I really appreciate your post this week. You have highlighted the parameters of
similarities clearly. I also saw the images that you've attached later. However, as
You have said, "I am not entirely sure what the second question/topic is", I suggest
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you check out my answer, where I've tried my best to explain that. I hope it helps.
Thanks for sharing.
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by Esther James - Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 6:50 AM
Hi Razvigor,
I agreed with your idea about Eratosthenes potential assumptions. Interesting

information about similar triangle relationship. Great illustrated data and the
explanation was quite helpful to understand your submission.
Great post and Happy New Year 2020.
Esther.
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Hi Rasvigor,
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by Tomasz Sloniewski - Thursday, 2 January 2020, 5:30 AM
Hi Vigo
Good input, everything is well described. I appreciate your e ort since the
trigonometry subject is rather something di erent than we did for couple of last
units and there were some information that needed to be refreshed.
Anyway, your post is good as always, keep up the good work!
Best regards,
Tomasz
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by Umme Jahan Mridula - Tuesday, 31 December 2019, 7:14 AM

If 2 triangles are similar, the sides are in proportion.In this example, in order to get
the accurate measure of the lengths of the larger triangle, at least one of the lengths
of the larger triangle must be know accurately.
This observation is correct, that plane trigonometry depends on understanding of

similar triangles.The proof of the addition formulae can be proved geometrically (see
Ptolemy's Theorem).
The laws of sines and cosines can also be derived geometrically.Calculation of the
trigonometric functions depends on the ability to calculate them from speci c angles
and the use of multiple angle formula.
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Given two similar triangles, one with small measurements that can
be accurately determined, and the other with large measurements,
but at least one is known with accuracy, can the other two
measurements be deduced? Explain and give an example.
First, we need to know that triangles are similar if they have the same shape
but not necessarily the same size.
So if we know the measurements of the small triangle, we can use deduce the
larger one and say if they are similar or not if:
1. AAA: Triple As stand for angle angle angle. All 3 pairs of corresponding
angles are the same, in those two triangles.
2. SSS in the same proportion: All 3 pairs of the corresponding sides of 2

triangles are in the same proportion.
3. SAS: This stands for side angle side. Two pairs of sides of 2 triangles are in
the same proportion and the included angle equal.
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How could we understand that the right triangles of trigonometry
with a hypotenuse of measure 1 represent all possible right
triangles?
First, we must know what a right triangle is. A right triangle is A 3-sided shape
where one angle has a value of 90 degrees.
Here we’re talking about a triangle that is inscribed in a circle of radius 1. The
circle is centered at the origin. This circle is known as a unit circle.
As we see in this above diagram, The hypotenuse of the triangle = the radius of
the circle = 1. This is for angle t.
Now if I change the angle from t to t2,(where t > t2), we will get a right triangle
like bellow:
Now the hypotenuse of the right triangle is still 1.
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If we would increase the angle as well to t3, where t3 > t and t3 > 90 degree, we
will still have the hypotenuse of 1 and we will have a negative x coordinate.
Now as we know the x coordinate is the cosα and the y coordinate value is the
sinα.
So, cosα = x/1 = x.
and sinα = y/1 = y.
And from these 2 we can get tanα, cosecα,secα and cotα.
References:
Abramson, Jay. (2015) Algebra and Trigonometry. Rice University.
Similar Triangles. Retrieved from

https://www.mathopenref.com/similartriangles.html
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Hi Subhasiish,
I appreciate your feedback. I absolutely enjoyed your idea that triangles can be

seen as similar but not always same shape or same size. The 3 ways you mentions
about getting measurements of small triangle, was helpful. You gave the three
above diagram a great explanation.
Esther.
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Hi Subhasish, /
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Good day Subhashish
Thank you for sharing the post with us.
I like how you have included triangles to illustrate your ndings. I have learned a lot
through your post.
Kind regards
Antonia
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Hi Subhasish
Thanks for the details about the similarity of triangles. There are some details that I
might have missed out and I remember them from my math lessons in high school
(and that was some years ago). Your input is well done.
Keep up the good work!
Tomasz
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by Bekezela Pangenyama - Tuesday, 31 December 2019, 9:11 PM

Triangles come in all shapes and sizes. A right triangle is a triangle with one right
angle therefore all triangles from this family have one right angle. The hypotenuse is
the side opposite the right angle which is always the longest side. The other two sides
have names depending on the angle that we are focusing on.
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Similar triangles have sides in proportion to one another. A trigonometric ratio is a
ratio between two-sided of a right angle.
The ratio opposite the hypotenuse is known as sine. Sin(theta)=

opposite/hypotenuse
The ratio adjacent to the hypotenuse is called the cosine. Cos(theta)

=adjacent/hypotenuse
The ratio opposite to the adjacent is known as the tangent. Tan(theta)=

opposite/adjacent
The right-angle triangles mostly have at least a 90 degrees angle.
For any right triangle, there are six trig ratios: sine (sin), cosine (cos), tangent (tan),
cosecant (csc), secant (sec), and cotangent (cot).
Here are the formulas for these six trigonometry ratios:

sin=opp/hyp
cos=adj/hyp
tan=opp/adj
csc=1/sin=hyp/opp
sec=1/cos=hyp/adj
cot=1/tan=adj/opp
The cosecant (csc), secant (sec) and cotangent (cot) are less common functions that
are equal to 1 divided by cos, 1 divided by sin and 1 divided by tan.
Reference:
MathsIsFun(2017). Retrieved from https://www.mathsisfun.com/sine-cosine-

tangent.html
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by Ciro Magliocco - Tuesday, 31 December 2019, 10:33 PM
In geometry, the concept of similarity between triangles (or more generally between
polygons) has to do intuitively with the concept of identical gures in shape but
di erent in size.
In the speci c case of triangles, we can consider the gure below to have a visual
reference to the concept speci ed above.
The enunciation of Thales' theorem is: the segments included between parallel
straight lines cut by two transversal ones form two classes of proportional sizes.
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If the lines a, b, c, d are parallel, it can be demonstrated that the segments formed on
the rst line t1 and those formed on the second line t2 are proportional to each other:
AB : A'B' = CD : C'D'
It is therefore clear that in similar triangles there is a ratio of proportionality between

the homologous sides.
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In general, the ratio of proportionality K, which concerns the sides of similar triangles
and of linear type concerning the perimeters (sum of the sides) and of non-linear type
(quadratic) if we consider the areas: (2p`)\(2p)=K, (S`\S)=(K)^2 .
Using these notions in the case of a smaller triangle with easily measurable side
measurements (known: a=2.5, b=5, c=8) and a larger triangle similar to it with only
one known side (b`=105) we can easily derive the other two unknown sides
calculating the ratio of proportionality K.
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In a triangle of hypotenuse equal to 1, the adjacent cathetus coincides with cos(t) and
the cathetus opposite the angle t, coincides with sin(t)
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For the theorem of Pythagoras the following relation is therefore valid: (sin(t))^2+
(cos(t))^2=(1)^2 , representing, for the similarity of triangles, all the possible right
triangles.
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References:

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by Keigo Ashitani - Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 8:29 PM
Hi Ciro.
Your post is logical and the gures are concise and beautiful. I got to know the
importance of gures after I read your post.
Thank you for your contribution for this forum.
Keigo.
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Hi Ciro,
As always, very good job. I'm constantly impressed that you are going into the
details. The explanation is logical and a good input to the discussion assignment.
Best regards,
Tomasz
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by Octreyvian Killian - Tuesday, 31 December 2019, 10:39 PM

The rst situation asks about if we have two similar triangles that are di erent sizes,
of which we know measurements of the smaller and one side of the larger, can we
calculate the remaining measurements of the larger.
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The answer is yes, because from the point of math similar triangles are
congruent in all ways except size, meaning that the ratio of measurements will be the
same for all sides, and the angle degrees will be the same for corresponding angles.
Scale models that are used by architects to pitch their building designs use these
theories. Architecture is the application of trigonometry to more shapes than
triangles.
Image
by Math Open Reference copyright 2011
The second exploration asks to determine why all possible types of right angle can be
expressed with a hypotenuse of 1.
In order to qualify as a triangle 2 quali cations must be met: 1- an object must
have exactly threes line segments that are connected at each end to one end another
line segment. 2- The angles that are created where the lines meet must all add up to
180 degrees. A right angle is de ned as a triangle that has exactly 1 side that is 90
degrees. Which means that the sum of the other two angles must also be 90 degrees-
which creates a give and take relationship which changes the lengths of the adjacent
and opposite side for a right angle with a given area, but the hypotenuse will be the
same length for every right angle with the same area.
The Graph below shows several right triangles with the same area. The one denoted
by the black line is a perfect right angle: both the adjacent and opposite sides are the
same length.
First thing to do determine how it should be plotted was to determine the length of
each of the sides.
A^2+B^2=c^2 and a=b in a perfect right angle, so a=b and b^2 = a^2
A^2+A^2=C^2 2A^2=1^2
2A^2=1^2 Divide each side by 2 A^2=(1^2)/2 A^2=.5
A^2= .5 Square root of each side
A= Square root of .5
So to plot the line needs to stop at the point of Square root of .5 on both the x and y
axis. /
Then we nd the slope, which we know is going to be -1 because both points are
equidistant from 0.
So the hypotenuse of a perfect triangle with a length of 1 is written as y=-x+ Square

root of .5 {0<x< Square root of .5}
For the other 2 demonstration lines I followed the same steps but picked a length of
the adjacent line to demonstrate that the all angles are possible, so long as the angles
are less than 90 degrees.
A= .5 b=squareroot(c^2-a^2) b=squareroot(1^2-(.5)^2)
B= squareroot(1-(.25) B= squareroot(.75)
Find the slope = (squareroot(.75)-0)/0-.5) =m
The line representing the hypotenuse of 1 when adjacent is .5 is y=

(squareroot(.75)-0)/0-.5)x + squareroot(.75) {0<x<.5}
And nally
A= .9 b=squareroot(c^2-a^2) b=squareroot(1^2-(.9)^2) b= squareroot(.09)
B= .3
Find the slope = (.3-0)/0-.9) m=-1/3
The line representing the hypotenuse of 1 when adjacent is .9 is y=-1/3x + .9 {0<x<.9}
References:

Similar Triangles. (2011). Retrieved December 31, 2019, from

https://www.mathopenref.com/similartriangles.html.
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by Bekezela Pangenyama - Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 10:28 PM

Hi Octreyvian,
The post is well detailed, simple and clear to follow through. I really liked the step
by step process to determine the length of all sides. Nice Work!
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by Mohamed Sarhan - Thursday, 2 January 2020, 1:06 AM

Good Job,
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by Razvigor Andreev - Thursday, 2 January 2020, 7:11 AM

Hi, Octreyvian,
that was a very well written post. I think I learned a lot from it.
First time I see someone using the term slope, while solving trig problems :)
Nevertheless, good work!
Cheers!
Vigo
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Hi Everyone,
Small Sized Triangle
Give us a chance to consider a triangle ABC with three given sides, as appeared in the
connected picture.
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AB = 15 cm, BC = 12 am and AC = 8 cm
We can quantify the three edges with the assistance of a protractor and will get the
qualities
as appeared.
This triangle is minuscule and can without much of a stretch be drawn and we can
quantify
the three edge A, B, and C with the assistance of protractor.
Note: There are three sides given so drawing the triangle is no issue and even we can
quantify the three points.
A Large Size Triangle
Presently when we have a major triangle, for which it is beyond the realm of
imagination to
expect to draw on marginally of paper.
Presently there are a few things to comprehend:
Similar Triangles:
On the o chance that the sides of the sizably voluminous triangle are corresponding
to the
three sides of the little triangle, at that point, the three edges of the gargantuan
triangle will
be identically tantamount to three edges of the little triangle.
For instance, we have a triangle PQR, with its side PQ = 1500 m, QR = 1200 m and PR =
800
m, at that point, it is pellucid we can't draw it.
What we can do, to exhibit it on marginally of paper and magnetize it as per a scale.
For instance, we picked the scale 100 m = 1 cm, at that point without a doubt the line
PQ on
the paper will be 15 cm and genuinely it is 1500 m, commensurably QR = 12 cm and

PR = 8 cm.
Estimating the edges of the little triangle will give us the edges of the gargantuan
triangle.
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Commensurable triangles can be of sundry sizes, yet their three points will
consistently be
equipollent and their three sides will be corresponding.
Using the Laws of Sine and Cosine:
On the o chance that between the three sides and three points, we are given any
two
edges and one side among them, as well as any di erent sides and the edge between
them,
we can utilize the laws of sines and cosines to decide the other three.
Cosine law is connected, when we ken any di erent sides and the point between
them,
While Sine Law can be utilized in the event that we ken two edges and one side
between
them or then again.
Right Triangles
For this situation, we utilize the Pythagorean hypothesis. That is square of the
hypotenuse is
perpetually equipollent to the entirety of the squares of the other di erent sides. That
is a2
+ b2 = c2
For this situation, kenning any of the points other than the correct edge will avail us
with nding the third one utilizing the conception of the whole of the three edges is
180^0.
On the o chance that the hypotenuse is 1 (it very well maybe 1 mm, 1 cm, 1 m, 1 km,
and so on), at that point the potential estimations are:
Side a-0.707107 m,
Side b= 0.707107 m
At that point utilizing the Pythagorean theorem we have
Step 1: Hypotenuse ^2 = (0.707107)^2+(0.707107)^2
Step 2: Hypotenuse ^2=0.5 + 0.5
Step 3: 1
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Consequently, the Hypotenuse is equivalent to 1.
An assortment of triangles can be drawn with sides
a= 0.83666 cm
b= 0.547723 cm
Reference:
Math Open Reference (2011) Similar Triangles. Retrieved
from: https://www.mathopenref.com/similartriangles.html
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Hi Antonio,
Insightful expression and thought on the discussion. Though there are no diagram
to boost some data explained but the explanation was helpful for me. The sin and
cos law has a great information and each triangle was logically discussed.
Esther.
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by Ciro Magliocco - Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 7:53 PM

Hi Antonio! Nice post. Clear and quite precise. Good reasoning and deductions. A
few gures attached would have helped the reading and understanding of the
passages you described in the answers to both questions.
Regards.
Ciro.
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Hi, Antonio,
That was a good read, it included some very fundamental trigonometry

gems.
My only comment would be that it seems that your are using some sort of
an auto-translate engine and some of the wording is really weird.
Cheers!
Vigo
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Discussion Post
Unit 7
MATH 1201
One of the largest issues in ancient mathematics was accuracy—nobody had

calculators that went out ten decimal places, and accuracy generally got worse
as the numbers got larger. The famous Eratosthenes experiment, that can be
found at https://www.famousscientists.org/eratosthenes/, relied on the fact known
to Thales and others that a beam of parallels cut by a transverse straight line
determines equal measure for the corresponding angles.
Given two similar triangles, one with small measurements that can be
accurately determined, and the other with large measurements, but at least
one is known with accuracy, can the other two measurements be deduced?
Explain and give an example.
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According to Varsity Tutors (2019), “Two triangles are said to be similar if their
corresponding angles are congruent and the corresponding sides are in proportion.
In other words, similar triangles are the same shape, but not necessarily the same
size. The triangles are congruent if, in addition to this, their corresponding sides are of
equal length. The side lengths of two similar triangles are proportional. That is,
if ΔUVWΔUVW is similar to ΔXYZΔXYZ , then the following equation holds:
UV/XY=UW/XZ=VW/YZ/UV/XY=UW/XZ=VW/YZ
This common ratio is called the scale factor. The symbol ∼∼ is used to indicate
similarity.
By using the principles of trigonometry, it is easy to deduce the two measurements of

the bigger circle.”
How could we understand that the right triangles of trigonometry with a

hypotenuse of measure 1 represent all possible right triangles?
The hypotenuse of a measure 1 can be said to represent all possible right triangles.
For example, the hypotenuse of a triangle can be found opposite the right angle of 90
degrees. The length of the hypotenuse can be found using the Pythagorean Theorem.
If a triangle is a right triangle, then the square of the length of the hypotenuse equals
the sum of the squares of the lengths of the legs. Furthermore Money Institute (2019)
states, “If a and b are the lengths of the legs of a right triangle and c is the length of
the hypotenuse, then the sum of the squares of the lengths of the legs is equal to the
square of the length of the hypotenuse.This relationship is represented by the
formula:
a^2+b^2=c^2”
References
Money Institute. (2019). The Pythagorean Theorem. Retrieved from

http://www.montereyinstitute.org/courses/DevelopmentalMath/COURSE_TEXT2_
Varsity Tutors. (2019). Similar Triangles. Retrieved from

https://www.varsitytutors.com/hotmath/hotmath_help/topics/similar-triangles
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Hi Antonia! Nice post .Clear and quite precise. Some attached gures would have
helped the reading and understanding of the passages you described in the
answer to the second question.
Regards.
Ciro.
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Hi Antonia,
I really liked your clear explanation on the Pythagoras Theorem and how you
included the triangles to your work.
Nice work!
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Great,
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Good post. That was clear and informative. It shows that you have a good
understanding of the basics of trigonometry and the Pythagorean Theorem.
Best Regards
Vigo
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by Keigo Ashitani - Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 4:09 PM

One triangle determines the shape of the other triangle when two triangles are
similar because the similar triangles have the same shapes. So the shape of a small
triangle determines the shape of the large triangle. So the ratio of all three sides of
the small triangle and the large triangle is the same, and I can use the ratio of the
sides to calculate the sides of the large triangle when I know the exact length of the
sides of the small triangle.
I determine the lengths of sides of a small triangle as a, b, and c, and the large triangle
as d, e, and f. The length of one side of a large triangle is already measured. I describe
the already known side as d. And I describe d=ka;k is a constant number, and I can
calculate k by substituting the length a and d.
Then, please recall that the ratio of the three sides of both triangles is the same. I can
use the ratio and describe the sides of the large triangle as below.
e=kb
f=kc.
So the sides of the large triangle are described as ka, kb, and kc.
In short, I can know the accurate value of a, b, c, d, and k, and the sides of the large
triangle are determined by a, b, c, and k. So I can deduce the other two
measurements of the large triangle by using the side of the small triangle and one
side of the large triangle.
For example, when the sides of the small triangle are 3,4, and 5 and a side of the large
triangle is 300, then 300=k×3 and k =100. The other two sides of the large triangle are
calculated as below.
ek=4×100=400
fk=5×100=500
And I can deduce the other two lengths of the large triangle.
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The right triangles of trigonometry with a hypotenuse of measure 1 can represent all
right triangles. The similarity of the triangles makes it possible.
When there is a right triangle A that I want to know the feature of it, I make a similar
triangle with a hypotenuse 1 of the right triangle A. The similar triangle with a
hypotenuse 1 has the same shape with the right triangle A except for its size. So the
right triangle with a hypotenuse 1 can represent all the right triangles using the
similarity.
References:
Geometry - Similar Triangles. (n.d.). Retrieved from

http://www.malinc.se/math/geometry/similartrianglesen.php.

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Hi Keigo! Nice post. Clear and quite precise. Some attached gures would have
helped the reading and understanding of the passages you described.
Regards.
Ciro.
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by Prathamesh Kothavale - Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 4:34 PM

Trigonometry allowed for some questions to be answered accurately even if the
numbers were very large simply because the accuracy of the numbers can only be
derived when the magnitude and degree of the numbers are fully accounted for in
the solution. The ancient mathematician could provide trigonometric theorems with
formula and equations they presented which they used to determine the exact
measurement and calculation of any given trigonometric problems.
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The study of trigonometric ratio accommodated degrees, radiants, and values of
whole identities which are easily used to quantify large numbers. One example of this
is Pi. With the used of pi, numbers can exactly be presented. The expansion of 2pi
may give non terminating decimals but the simple expression of 2pi can solve the
problem.
Also, the use of Pythagoras' theorem largely assisted the ancient mathematician to
determine the accuracy of numbers and measurement of the lengths of a right-
angled triangle. The theorem helped to note that the square of the side of the
hypotheses is equal to the sum of the squares of the two other sides. For instance,
they could use the accuracy of the Pythagoras' theorem to get the accurate length of
the line of hypotheses of a right angle triangle with Sides 6cm and 8cm.
This theorem assisted to get the accuracy length by squaring the two given sides and
getting the squares that are equivalent to the square of the hypotheneus. That is y^2
= 6^2 + 8^2. With this, the accurate answer to the hypotenuse is derived even if the
number involved is very large. Through this discovery, they knew things like 10cm,
6cm, 8cm right-angle triangle existed because of 10^2 = 6^2 + 8^2.
They also knew all the trig-ratios and trig-functions of angles in the trigonometry.
Consider, the case of sin(B) = 8/10 for the angle opposite the side 8cm with the
hypotenuse 10cm long.
The Men of Mathematics | Ratio | Physics & Mathematics. (2020). Retrieved 1

January 2020, from https://www.scribd.com/doc/119694941/The-Men-of-
Mathematics
Scientists, T., & Scientists, L. (2020). Eratosthenes - Biography, Facts, and

Pictures. Retrieved 1 January 2020, from
https://www.famousscientists.org/eratosthenes/
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Hi Prathamesh,
Thank you for this post because I have a better understanding of the mathematics
history and how the concepts originated and used.
Nice Work!
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determines equal measure for the corresponding angles. Given two similar
triangles, one with small measurements that can be accurately determined,
and the other with large measurements, but at least one is known with
accuracy, can the other two measurements be deduced? Explain and give an
example.
"The similarity of triangles is de ned as one of the types of mathematical

relationships that may exist between two triangles. The similarity of triangles is based
on the principle of proportion and proportion, where all the angles are the same size,
while the length of the sides between the two triangles di ers in the same ratio
between each of two opposite side" (Hadilhabashneh, 2019).
Two triangles are said to be similar if the opposite angles of each of them are equal,
that is, when one of them results from the other by enlarging or reducing it. The
lengths of the similar sides of the two triangles are proportional, that is, if the length
of the shortest sides of the rst triangle is twice the length of the shortest sides of the
second triangle, then the length of both the longest and middle sides of the rst
triangle is twice the lengths of the longest and middle sides of the second triangle as
well, so the ratio between the lengths of The shortest and longest sides of the rst
triangle are equal to the ratio between the lengths of the shorter and longer sides of
the rst triangle.
Two triangles are similar if the sides of the symmetrical sides are symmetrical (side,
side, side).
Two triangles are similar if two angles of the rst triangle are equal with two angles in
the second triangle (angles).
Two triangles are the same if the angle measure from one triangle is equal to the
angle measure from another triangle and the lengths of the two sides that contain
this angle are proportional (side, angle, side).
Similarity results:
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- The ratio between two similar triangles is equal to the square of the ratio between
the two lengths of any two symmetrical sides.
The ratio between the two circumferentials of similar triangles is equal to the ratio
between the two sides of any symmetrical side.
"Daily applications to trigonometry laws for trigonometry are of great importance in

daily life, and its most important applications are the following areas: [3] Height
calculations: where the previous laws can be applied to nd the height of a point
without the need to actually measure it. Electronic games: Trigonometry is used to
give game designs a slanting movement style. Structures: Engineers need
trigonometry in the construction eld to calculate areas, heights, and dimensions, in
addition to calculating building angles and light. Crime investigations: The angles of an
object's fall, the angle of re, or the study of the causes of car accidents are calculated
by using trigonometry. Nautical Engineering: Trigonometry is used to calculate the
appropriate length for a segment that links submarines to higher levels"
(Hadilhabashneh, 2019).
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you can translate it from google..
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Dear sarhan,
good job, your explain is more excellent , you are described everything about
similar triangles very well. keep up hard work.
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Discussion assignment unit 7 By Abdulqwai
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Part 1:

determines equal measure for the corresponding angles. Given two similar
triangles, one with small measurements that can be accurately determined,
and the other with large measurements, but at least one is known with
accuracy, can the other two measurements be deduced? Explain and give an
example.
Solution :
We can know the other two measurements with additional information

presented here. By putting the reasons as an equation of their trigonometrical
functions. Because we know now that triangles are similar, we can understand
that their angles are the same. No matter what the size of each these triangles
is. To make sure that triangles are identical, the angles of triangles should be
similar too. As we know that triangles are identical,no matter what the size is.
We can always remember their angles are identical also. And that’s because
they are triangles.
We can prove that.
The prove is in attachments.
Part 2:
How could we understand that the right triangles of trigonometry with a

hypotenuse of measure 1 represent all possible right triangles? Ultimately, the
similarity of triangles is the basis for proportions between sides of two
triangles, and these proportions allow for the calculations of which we are
speaking here. The similarity of triangles is the foundation of trigonometry.
Solution:
As we say in the last answer. No matter what the size of each any triangle, to
see if they are similar or not, we should get one same angle. Then that is what
matters the most in this type of question/problem. Also, the important thing in
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this type of situation is the relationship from the triangle(s). by looking in the
provided measurements, we can simplify them all the sides to1 in all of the
cases.
References:
Abramson, J.(2017). Algebra and trigonometry. OpenStax,TX: Rice University.
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by Donald Mcintyre - Thursday, 2 January 2020, 1:18 AM

If you have a small triangle with a hypotenuse of 1, an opposite of ½, and an adjacent
of ¼; and a larger triangle were the hypotenuse of 8 is the only known side, then then
you can deduce that the larger has an opposite of 4 (8/2) and an adjacent of 2 (8/4).
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In general, the similarity of triangles are a good start to understand the bigger
perspective of the world. Checking and measuring small examples from our every day
life and determining the large-scale measurements based on the similarities might be
kind of tricky when it comes to the accuracy. Whenever we try to take the measures of
an object we always risk the measurement error. This can occur no matter if we check
the length of a pencil with a ruler or a height of the building. By doing that (in a
professional way) we try to always be aware that the errors occur and accept the
slight discrepancy of the result of measurement.
If we want to transfer those measures using similarities to even bigger objects (let’s
say 100 or 1000 times bigger), the error is also transferred and multiplied. And this is
the issue of just one measurement. Trying to include two or more measurements,
each of them is also transferring the risk of an error which will be multiplied by the
scale. Let’s go back to Eratothenes. He measured the heights of two walls and the
length of their shadows. This is the list of my examples that might have created an
multiplied error:
· Incorrect measurement of the distance between the Alexandria and Syracuse
(the road might not be in a straight line and the terrain is not at – cannot measure
the exact distance assuming that the terrain is at and the distance can be measured
as an arc length on the circle)
· Incorrect measurement time (not being able to do that exactly on the same time)
· Distortion of the sunlight (clouds, re ections from other buildings)

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· Di erent alignment of the walls
· Measuring tools not precise enough
In my opinion using the small scale measurements to solve bigger problems can be
useful only when the precision of the measurements is signi cant and can be
transferred to the bigger model without an error multiplication.
Similar triangles – one with known measurements and bigger one with only one
known can be deduced and here is one example:
Let’s say that:
a = 8, b = 6, c = 10
Then:
sin(α) = (b/c) = 0.6
cos(α) = (a/c) = 0.8
tan(α) = (b/a) = 0.75
Then we know one measure from second triangle:
d=5
Using the similarity from the rst triangle:
sin(α) = (e/f) = 0.6
cos(α) = (d/f) = 0.8
tan(α) = (e/d) = 0.75

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0.8 = (5 / f)
f = 5/0.8
f = 6.25
0.6 = (e / 6.25)
e = 0.6*6.25
e = 3.75
No matter which measure from the second triangle we know, if we know that the
angles are the same, we can determine the rest of the measures.
Giving the above example, we can say that the right triangle with the hypotenuse of
measure 1 will not only be a correct way to serve as representation of all right
triangles, but also helps us to compute the trigonometrical equations by
simpli cation:
sin(x) = b/1 = b
cos(x) = a/1 = a
Then we can use those proportions to di erent (and similar) right triangles.
References:

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Hi Tomasz Sloniewski, this is great post
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A lot are clear now for me
Many thanks
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"Two triangles are said to be similar if their corresponding angles are congruent and
the corresponding sides are in proportion . In other words, similar triangles are the
same shape, but not necessarily the same size. The triangles are congruent if, in
addition to this, their corresponding sides are of equal length" (Varsity Tutor, n.d)
"Two triangles are similar if they have the same shape but not necessarily the same
size. The corresponding angles are equal, and the corresponding sides are
proportional . We can think of one similar triangle as an enlargement or a reduction
of the other". (Yoshiwara, n.d)
References
Varsity Tutor. ( n.d). Similar Triangles

Retrieved from https://www.varsitytutors.com/hotmath/hotmath_help/topics/similar-
triangles
K. Yoshiwara. (n.d). Trigonometry. Yoshiwarabooks. Retrieved from

https://yoshiwarabooks.org/trig/SimTri.html
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The similarity of triangles gives rise to trigonometry.

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For a large number of a right angle triangle to be determined, the ancient

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excellent and keep up hard work

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That is great work. Clear, simple and well explained.

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Keep this up,best of luck!

Umme jahan mridula.

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to nd height of a building. It can be done using triangle similarity and

trigonometry. Triangle similarity is given rst and trigonometry after. This

is given through ratio

Next let us look at height of a building using trigonometric identities. Ba-

(almost same as before).

Next let us express trigonometric identities using symbols. This can be

gure 4, stackexchange 2019). Here sin θ = y and cos θ = x.

chegg (2019). Check height of a building using triangle similarity. Online.

solve - problem - see - example - 9 - height - bui - chapter - 13 . 8 -

stackexchange (2019). A unit circle. Online. url: https://math.stackexchange.

vcemethods12 (2019). A circle of radius r. Online. url: https://sites.

google . com / site / vcemethods12 / 6 --- power - functions / 6e ---

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You've also expressed "trigonometric identities using symbols" beautifully.

Check out my post, where I've tried my best to explain.

Thanks for sharing :)

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Only one week left for us in this course!

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good job and keep up hard work

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Its deep and show your remarkable skills. /

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Keep this up,best of luck!

Umme Jahan Mridula

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These triangle PIE, has;

The triangle PI'E', has;

So, [PI/PE] = [PE'/PI’] and [IE/PE] = [I'E'/PE']

Assuming, z angle is 30degrees. PI = 4, PI' = 16

sin z = 1/2 = 4/PE = 16 / PE' -> PE = 8, PE' = 32

sin = opposite / hypotenuse

cos = adjacent / hypotenuse

tan = opposite /adjacent.

Abramson, J. (2017). Algebra and trigonometry. OpenStax, TX: Rice University.

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excellent and keep up hard

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I like the hand writing graph you attached.

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Nice job, keep it up ,