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Olivier Catherine
Technical Director - Cloeren Incorporated
Orange, Texas
SPE Webinar April 27, 2021
Introduction
Cloeren Incorporated designs and manufactures Flat Film Extrusion Dies and Feedblocks
MWD
performed
𝛾𝛾 ∗
𝛾𝛾0 𝜏𝜏 ∗
𝜏𝜏0
t
Rotational Rheometry / Dynamic Measurements
Imaginary = Viscous
Complex modulus
G*
G”
δ
Real = elastic
G’
Polymer
melts
1.E+05 1.E+05
1.E+04 1.E+04
G’ or G” [Pa]
G' or G” [Pa]
Viscous
Viscous
Elastic
Elastic
1.E+03 1.E+03
G” G”
1.E+02 1.E+02
G’
1.E+01 G’ 1.E+01
T = 280°C T = 280°C
1.E+00 1.E+00
1.E-01 1.E+01 1.E+03 1.E+05 1.E-01 1.E+01 1.E+03 1.E+05
aTxω [rad/s] aTxω [rad/s]
Viscoelastic Behavior of Extrusion Coating Resins
1.E+06 LDPE1– 7MI .917 1.E+06 mPE – 19MI .918
1.E+05 1.E+05
1.E+04 1.E+04
G' or G” [Pa]
G’ or G" [Pa]
Viscous
Elastic
Viscous
Elastic
1.E+03 1.E+03
G”
1.E+02 1.E+02
G”
1.E+01 G’ 1.E+01
T = 280°C G’ T = 280°C
1.E+00 1.E+00
1.E-01 1.E+01 1.E+03 1.E+05 1.E-01 1.E+01 1.E+03 1.E+05
1.E+05 1.E+05
1.E+04 1.E+04
G' or G” [Pa]
G’ or G” [Pa]
Viscous
Elastic
Viscous
Elastic
1.E+03 1.E+03
G” G”
1.E+02 1.E+02
G’ G’
1.E+01 1.E+01
T = 280°C T = 280°C
1.E+00 1.E+00
1.E-01 1.E+01 1.E+03 1.E+05 1.E-01 1.E+01 1.E+03 1.E+05
aTxω [rad/s] aTxω [rad/s]
Viscoelastic Behavior of Extrusion Coating Resins
1.E+03
LDPE2
LDPE1
Reduced complex viscosity |η*|/aT [Pa.s]
LDPE3
mPE
1.E+02
1.E+01
T = 280°C
1.E+00
1.E-02 1.E-01 1.E+00 1.E+01 1.E+02 1.E+03 1.E+04 1.E+05
Extensional
Rheometer
Fixture
10 s-1
1.E+05 25 s-1
LVE 1.E+04
3 s-1 LVE
0.1 s-1
1.E+04
10 s-1 1 s-1
1.E+03
1.E+03
1.E+02
T = 140°C T = 120°C
1.E+02
1.E-03 1.E-02 1.E-01 1.E+00 1.E+01 1.E+02 1.E+03 1.E-03 1.E-02 1.E-01 1.E+00 1.E+01 1.E+02 1.E+03
Time [s] Time [s]
Capillary Rheometry
Rosand RH2000
Principle
Driven Plunger
(PC controlled
velocity)
Heated Barrel
Polymer melt
• Shear Rate calculated from Die Diameter, Plunger
diameter and velocity
Pressure • Shear Stress calculated from Pressure measurement,
Transducer Die Length, Die Diameter
• Viscosity = Shear Stress / Shear Rate
• Corrections
Capillary Die
Rabinowitsch Correction
Velocity profiles as a function
of the pseudoplastic index
2.5
𝑄𝑄 “Apparent” shear rate calculation
𝛾𝛾̇ = 4 3
𝜋𝜋𝑅𝑅𝐶𝐶 assumes a Newtonian velocity profile
2
0.5
T=180°C
1.E+01
1.E+00 1.E+01 1.E+02 1.E+03 1.E+04
Corrected shear rate (/s)
Bagley Correction
Pressure
ΔPE
PMEASURED
ΔPC
ΔPEXIT
Entrance
LC LM
Capillary Die:
RC
PExit
𝛥𝛥𝑃𝑃𝑐𝑐
𝛼𝛼𝑛𝑛 𝜏𝜏𝑤𝑤 = 𝑅𝑅𝑐𝑐
2𝐿𝐿𝑐𝑐
𝛼𝛼1
𝛥𝛥𝑃𝑃𝑐𝑐,𝑖𝑖
𝛼𝛼𝑖𝑖 = 2𝑅𝑅𝑐𝑐
Measure the pressure drop 𝐿𝐿𝑐𝑐
on a series of dies of
decreasing length
Bagley Corrected 𝛼𝛼𝑖𝑖
Linear extrapolation to a Length: 𝜏𝜏𝑤𝑤,𝑖𝑖 =
Die (L/D) ratio of 0 Shear Stress 4
But, there is and entrance effect
Twin-Bore Rheometer
• With a long capillary and “orifice die” (L/D≈0) on a twin-bore instrument it is possible
to get direct measure of entrance pressure drop.
• No extrapolation is needed and the Bagley correction allows for accurate shear stress
calculations
Example of Corrected vs. Uncorrected Data
PVB SAMPLES - BAGLEY CORRECTION COMPARISON
1.E+04
SAMPLE 3 BAGLEY
CORRECTON - uncorrected data.
T=180°C
Depending on how elastic the
1.E+02 SAMPLE 3 NO
CORRECTON -
melt is, the difference can be
T=180°C significant.
1.E+01
1.E+00 1.E+01 1.E+02 1.E+03 1.E+04
Corrected shear rate (/s)
Melt Fracture / Flow instability
FEP
Shear Rate
10 1.0E+03
Critical
600
Viscosity (Pa.s)
8
6 400
1.0E+02 350 °C (Input)
4 370 °C (Input)
200 390 °C (Input)
350 °C (Carreau-WLF)
2
370 °C (Carreau-WLF)
390 °C (Carreau-WLF)
0 0
1 10 100 1000 10000
1.0E+01
Time (s)
1.0E+00 1.0E+01 1.0E+02 1.0E+03 1.0E+04 1.0E+05
3.5
Measured Melt Pressure (MPa)
2.5
1.5
Polymer w/ additive at 270 ⁰C
1
Neat Polymer at 270 ⁰C
0.5
Neat Polymer at 290 ⁰C
0
0 1000 2000 3000 4000
Time (s)
Thermal Stability vs. Residence Time
60
50
30
20
10
0
0 200 400 600 800 1000 1200
Transverse Direction – Distance from
CenterLine (mm)
C1 (T − Tref )
100 aT = exp −
C + (T − T )
2 ref
Parameter Value
η0 (Pa.s) 6.67 ×103
10 τ∗ (Pa) 2.14.104
m 0.38335
1 10 100 1000 10000
Tref (K) 473.15 (200°C)
Corrected shear rate [1/s] C1 104.26
C2 (K) 2591.3
Flow Simulation Conditions
Process Value
parameter
Die wall 210°C
temperature
Initial melt 210°C
temperature
Extrusion output 800 kg/h
250
Velocity (mm/s)
200
150
100
50
0
0 200 400 600 800 1000 1200 1400 1600
Distance from centerline (mm)
in stable extrusion
condition after lip
adjustment:
Average thickness = 780 μm
2σ <2%
Automatic Lip Adjustment
Thermal translator
(with heater)
Push Rod
Die lips
Troubleshooting Methodology
The initial online gauge measurement is not acceptable and far from design
predictions – that is not usual.
Investigations online and offline to determine the origin of this discrepancy:
1) Melt temperature measurement
2) Confirmation with IR thermal imaging of melt curtain in air gap
3) Rheology assessment of actual material extruded at start-up
4) Possible CFD analysis if enough difference with design parameters is observed
Melt Temperature Measurement
Elbow
T P3 Existing melt temperature TC P2 P1
vacuum
adapter 2
Filter 2
Gear Pump
Filter 1
adapter 1
Barrel flange
Die
220
210
200
190
180
170
160
0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1
Implementation of a Variable Thermocouple Dimensionless Position (x/R)
Depth thermocouple to evaluate
Near the centerline of the flow channel, melt
temperature gradients in melt
temperature is ≈ 227°C for a 210°C target
flow channel at the elbow
adapter, just upstream from the Near the wall, measurements indicate 180°C
die due to the low temperature set point
Thermal Imaging
218
216 • IR camera emissivity set at ε =0.95
Average curtain
214
• No calibration –measurements are “relative”, not absolute.
212
• Curtain melt temperature is higher than the melt
(°C)
210
208 temperature target (210°C) or die temperature (200°C) on
206 average.
204
202
• Strong influence of extrusion output indicate excessive
0 200 400 600 800 1000 shear heating in the extrusion system
Extrusion output (kg.h-1)
Shear Rheology A PVB sample was taken during start-up and test
was performed with same capillary rheometer as
10000
for the original sample
180°C Bagley and Rabinowitsch corrections are applied
Cross and WLF model was fit to the data
200°C
220°C
η 0 × aT
1000 η (γ, T ) =
Shear viscosity (Pa.s)
1− m
240°C η × a
1 + 0 T γ
τ*
C1 (T − Tref )
aT = exp −
C + (T − T )
100
2 ref
Parameter Value
η0 (Pa.s) 2.25 ×103
τ∗ (Pa) 9.303.104
m 0.17687
Tref (K) 473.15 (200°C)
C1 3218.7
10 C2 (K) 89559
1 10 100 1000 10000
Corrected shear rate (/s)
Comparison - Shear Flow Viscosity models at reference
temperature
10000
Original
Parameter Value
𝜼𝜼𝟎𝟎 (Pa.s) 6.67 ×103
𝝉𝝉∗ (Pa) 2.14.104
m 0.38335
100
Start-up material Original
Parameter Value
𝜼𝜼𝟎𝟎 (Pa.s) 2.25 ×103 Start-up
𝝉𝝉∗ (Pa) 9.303.104
m 0.17687 material
Tref (K) 473.15 (200°C)
10
C1 3218.7
1 10 100 1000 10000
C2 (K) 89559
Corrected Shear rate [1/s]
New Flow Simulations
3D flow simulation considering the parameters observed during the start-up:
• Melt temperature of 225°C (higher than originally specified)
• New Rheological behavior (lower zero-shear viscosity, more shear-thinning at
high shear rate)
200
Velocity (mm/s)
150
100
50
0
0 200 400 600 800 1000 1200 1400 1600
Distance from centerline (mm)
Olivier Catherine
Technical Director - Cloeren Incorporated
www.cloeren.com
ocatherine@cloeren.com
+1 409-951-7632