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Hi, I was wondering
who I would speak to

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regarding an upcoming
local news event.

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Oh, okay, great.

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Uh, I'm calling
from "Big News Publicity,"

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and there's a rally
that's taking place tomorrow

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at the State Capitol
by the Satanic Temple.

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The Satanic Temple.

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S... S as in Sam.
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Great, thank you.

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And there you have it,
and that was an ABC affiliate.

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Okay.

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We thank you for coming
to our convening.

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Hail Satan.

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Not bad.

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Could you hold it
for a beat longer?

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Hail Satan.

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Damn it.

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Test, one, two.

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Hey, how's it going?

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- It's going fantastic.
- Why are you here today?

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We're here to spread
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and benevolence,
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- and free expression.
- What is your name?

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That's not important.

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It's a beautiful day here
at the State Capitol...

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great day to be a Satanist...

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great day to be a human being.

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We honor
Governor Rick Scott!

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Hail Satan, Rick,

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for providing us
this opportunity

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to make
the Satanic clause clear
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and make our presence known,
and, uh...

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I believe it,
and I'm very excited about it.

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A satanic temple

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fully supports Florida Governor Rick Scott,
who has been

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pushing for prayer in public schools.

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Jesus Christ became my savior
at a very young age...

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That's right,
Satanists pushing for prayer

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and backing
a Tea Party favorite.

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We spoke to one
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about why they support the law.

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Lucien Greaves,
and yes, that is the name

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the gentleman gave us,

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told us that the law
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"A boom
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Basically, the argument
being you open the door to God,

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you open the door to Satan.

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We're not what
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and we're here to...
we're here to help people

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understand that about us
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What do you think
of Rick Scott?

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Think he's a great American.

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- I do, and, uh...
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Hail Satan!

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- Hail Satan.
- Hail Satan.

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Hail Satan!

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It was awkward.
it was messy,

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and it was awesome.
It was national news,

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but more importantly,
we realized

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that we were on to something.

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And where did the name
"The Satanic Temple" come from?

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When I was looking
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Satanic organizations
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uh, the name wasn't taken.

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The Rick Scott rally
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to show the hypocrisy
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and it required a spokesperson.

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I didn't want to do it.

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He is the leader
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and we're gonna be on the steps
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Usually when I think
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a gaggle of satanic,
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I think of them wearing, like,
the red hoods.

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- Yeah.
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Like,
that's like the group color,

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and then leader color would be,
like, black, gray, brown.
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Oh, I like that.

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When we first started,
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and there was
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but very quickly, um,
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At the beginning,
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to think that we could start

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a large global
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When the Satanic Temple
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I wanted to be sure

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that Satanism
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I very much felt
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but there was no need to kind
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Lucien.

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You excited?

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Not yet.

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You excited?

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No. I'm filled with angst.

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I wanted somebody else
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but I... I found very quickly

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I didn't want somebody else
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God and Satan work
in mysterious ways,

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and we're not really sure,
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how all this is gonna manifest.

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It became very clear
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no amount of coaching
I could give somebody

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who wasn't authentically
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that would make them a credible
interview subject on the topic.

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Why'd you guys pick, uh,
Governor Scott...

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When it became my face
and my voice,

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it needed to be everything
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or it could not be at all,

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so that's when
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We will begin
with Lucien. All right, Lucien.

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So is it, like,
Lucien as in Lucifer?

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Is that where... is that
why you're called that?

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Sure, as you like.

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As you like.

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I don't kn...
Like, is that your birth name?

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- No, it's not.
- Okay.

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So, what is it that first drew
you to the Satanic Temple?

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Well, I... I helped co-found
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Why?

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Uh, why?
Because it is an embodiment

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of my deeply-held beliefs,

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and I think there's a distinct
need for a counterbalance

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against the dominant religious
privilege in America today.
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What are the deeply-held beliefs

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that drew you
to the Satanic Temple?

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Uh, essentially, we view, uh,
Satan as a symbolic embodiment

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of the ultimate rebel
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Once you realize how
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it becomes incredibly easy
to manipulate.

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Good evening to you,

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at six o'clock
I'm Chip Scarborough.

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Well, the owner
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has already said
he plans to pursue charges

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against members
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and now police
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the unusual ritual.

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This you have to see
to believe.

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A group of devil worshippers

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giving Westboro Baptist Church
a run for their money.

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God hates fags.

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Except you repent,
you shall all likewise perish,

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and God is not running
out of room in hell.

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How do you fuck
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Well... you fuck with his mom.

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A group from New York's
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to Meridian to protest
the Westboro Baptist Church.
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They performed a ritual
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on the grave
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the mother of Westboro
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The ceremony involved
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kissing over her grave.

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They then declared
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a lesbian in the afterlife.

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One of the things
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you know,
the Mormons have the belief

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that they can baptize the dead

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and do
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so I proposed that every time
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that she's pleasured
in the afterlife.

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You know, which I took
from "It's a Wonderful Life."

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You know,
"Every time a bell rings,

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an angel gets its wings."

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Every time a bell rings,
an angel gets his wings.

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That's right.

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And then developing,
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into the obvious idea,
which is putting your testicles

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on the tombstone of the
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It's remarkable,
it hadn't happened before.

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It is an unusual crime
that we haven't come across,

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to my knowledge, in a while.

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There was a desperate
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what to charge us with.

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The headline read, "Police
Want to Arrest," you know,

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"Satanists
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Satana, blessed be.

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Blasphemy isn't just

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directed at other people
to offend them.

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Blasphemy is very much

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a declaration
of personal independence,

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and I don't mind, of course,
when people are offended.

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It's a city known
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but the newest neighbors
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are Satanists, the religious
and political organization

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choosing this spot
for its international headquarters.

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According to the
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the group is all
about religious pluralism.

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What we want to do
is force people

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to evaluate their notions
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being a Christian nation.

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It's not.
We're a secular nation.

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We are supposed to be
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pluralistic nation.
We are supposed to be a nation

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that doesn't allow
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to dictate what is appropriate
religious expression.

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The donors have to wait
to find out

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whether those donations
are tax-deductible

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once there's a ruling. Uh...

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Early on it was agreed

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that Lucien would be
the spokesperson

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and that I would keep
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Here's our...
our humble offices.

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This is Malcolm's desk,
and this is mine.

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Sorry about the mess.

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This is, uh, where we're going
to have the shop.

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This is where people will be
able to buy prints or T-shirts

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or whatever else
we have on sale.

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A lot of what we are doing

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is going to direct people's perception

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of what Satanism
will be hereafter...

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but the Satanic Temple
did not invent modern Satanism.

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You see now the Reverend
Anton Szandor LaVey,

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who is the founder
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of the First Church of Satan,

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who uses,
as somewhat of a credo,
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this timeless quote,

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"Remember,
evil backwards spells live."

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Somehow,
that never occurred to me.

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The most interesting thing
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is that people...
willingly choose to identify

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with an adversarial being.

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What are you doing?

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I'm giving a blessing
to the audience.

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I don't think
they appreciate it.

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They were throwing it back.

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This is the sign of the horns.

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It's a founding aspect
of Satanism
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that you troll people.

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That's the original troll,
isn't it, is to say to people,

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"Yeah, I'm a Satanist,"
and see what happens to people.

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I mean, they just... they faint,
or they get angry,

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or whatever happens,
and then you move on from there.

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- Hail Satan.
- Hail Satan.

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Satan is simply a word

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that means the adversary
or the opposition

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or the accuser.

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It doesn't necessarily mean
evil, or brutality, or cruelty.

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It simply means the dissenter.

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Well, I had a man
come to me the other day,

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and he said
that it was just terrible.

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When... when he joined
the Satanic Church,

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he was masturbating
just about every day,

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and now he's masturbating

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two and sometimes
three times a day...

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...and he's very happy,

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much happier
than he's ever been before.

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That's an improvement.

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I always get a lift
when I come here.

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I suppose like other people do
when they go to church,

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which I haven't done
for many years now.
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Before the Church of Satan,

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every time you had someone
who was called a Satanist,

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that was because of attribution
by other people.

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- Cover her face...
- No!

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...with the mask of Satan.

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But the Church of Satan
is a watershed moment

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in the history of Satanism
because that's where

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the attribution
of a Satanic identity

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is not just something that
some people do to others.

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It's something that people do
to themselves.

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One of the differences

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between the early Church
of Satan

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and the Satanic Temple,
that the early Church of Satan

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was much more
of a rat pack carnival.

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They were never political,
whereas the Satanic Temple

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is actually refining Satanism
and making it into a new tool,

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a new weapon
in the ongoing culture wars.

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If you're godless,
free-thinking,

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and a rebel,
then you are a Satanist

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in the eyes of many
in our community and society,

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and certainly by people
in your government...

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whether you like it or not.

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Before I decided
that I was a Satanist,

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it was really the Bible
that said,

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"This is what
a Satanist is like."

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I attended church
when I was a kid,

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and funny story
is that I played Eve

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in a musical in middle school.

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The story of Adam and Eve

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is the story
of Eve's original sin.

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Eve was very curious,
as her nature was as a woman.

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The Devil appeared
in the form of a snake

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and offers
the fruit of enlightenment.

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We are taught to fear that,

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but at the same time,
it seems the most liberating,

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because if we did not have
that opportunity,

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we would have to be
in total servitude

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without free choice,

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and ultimate servitude
is slavery.

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Reframing it in the light
of it being salvation

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is probably
one of the greatest tricks

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ever played on humankind.

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Satanism is about embracing
that Satanic status

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rather than being controlled
by it.

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After I learned
about the Satanic Temple,
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I set up a time
to meet with Lucien.

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Throughout the conversation,

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I realized that we have
very similar ideas

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of what contemporary Satanism
was evolving to be.

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The Devil directly
challenged God...

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so as a Satanist,
I believe that

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directly confronting injustice
and corrupt authority

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is an expression
of one's Satanic faith.

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And I believe activism
is a Satanic practice.

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Traditionally, Satanists
practiced very privately,

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you know, closed doors,
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black candles,
black metal music.

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But, with the
Satanic philosophy

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being one where
Satan represents

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rebellion
against arbitrary authority,

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we believe it required a level
of political participation.

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We are Satanists.

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We are also Americans.

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We are just as powerful

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as those who work
in this institution here.

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We do not seek followers.
We are seeking collaborators,

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individuals for a visionary
Satanic alliance,

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leaders of the new American era.

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I think that we need to go
into the public sphere

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and announce ourselves
without shame.

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- Hail Satan.
- Hail Satan.

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- Hail Satan.
- Hail Satan!

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Satanic Temple is mostly an idea

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between a handful of people
that had potential,

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and the problem was how do we
engage more individuals

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and how do we make it,
you know, take off?

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It's one of the strangest
stories to roil Boston

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in recent memory.
A Satanic Black Mass

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was scheduled yesterday
on Harvard's campus.

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Here to talk
more about the black mass

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is Lucien Greaves.
So, Lucien, just for people...

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Lucien and Malcolm
had gotten permission

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to host a Black Mass...

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in Boston. Uh, yeah,
Boston's, uh,

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it's pretty fucking Catholic.

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A Black Mass is a grotesque,

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deliberate perversion of
a traditional Catholic mass,

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you know, quite vulgar,

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but then again,
a mass is kind of vulgar too,

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if you really think about it.

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I mean, you're drinking blood
and eating flesh?

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I mean, that...
that's just creepy.

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They asked if I wanted
to participate, so I flew out,

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and there was a lot
of miscommunication

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in the beginning.

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But I did the work of getting
a lot of people to show up.

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The punk scene was mobilized.

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We thought this would be
a small-scale event.

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A declaration of independence
from superstition

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was what it was meant to be,
but the archdiocese in Boston

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insisted
on seeing it another way.

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Thousands of Catholic
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in a more-than-hour-long
procession

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through the streets
of Cambridge.

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If someone was going to do
a KKK reenactment

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or a minstrel show
or something like that,

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I would hope the reaction
would be outrage.

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This is definitely
an act of hatred,

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an act of bigotry
directed towards the Church

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and towards
her faithful people.

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We've actually got
a little bit of a petition

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if anybody watching
would like to sign.

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Nearly 60,000 names of people
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who objected
to this hateful event.

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There was a sense
that we should just give up

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and cancel it,
and I just remember feeling,

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like this unexpected sense
of justice and feel like,

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"No, we can't."
I ended up standing on a table

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and saying, like, "We weren't...

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We aren't gonna
give in to this."

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In just moments
near Harvard University,

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some very mean-spirited
students

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will be exercising
their First Amendment right

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by insulting Catholics
not just at Harvard
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but around the globe.

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They're about to start a satanic mass,
which they know

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is deeply offensive to Catholics.
What do I think?

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Well, frankly,
I think they're awful.

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It was nuts.

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It was way more
than we had prepared for,

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and hours before
we were supposed to go on,

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Harvard canceled it.

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This event was, like,
extremely chaotic,

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and there was no plan for who
is communicating with the media,

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and, like, I kind of got thrown
in front of a news camera.

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A very unproductive
conversation.

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Uh, it's just very disappointing.

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We're looking for a change
of venue right now.

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00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:04,018
Um,
we still have our participants.

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00:22:04,192 --> 00:22:05,802
We haven't quite worked it out
yet.

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Now apparently
you've got this

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sort of moving Black Mass.

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Where do you think
they're going?

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Are they, like, going
undercover or underground?

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00:22:13,201 --> 00:22:14,481
I mean, it's sort of interesting

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00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:16,833
because we've been chasing them
for the last 90 minutes.

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00:22:16,857 --> 00:22:19,297
Well, hopefully...
...hopefully they're going away,

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that's where they're going.

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Some, uh, Chinese restaurant
with a comedy club up top of it

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00:22:25,996 --> 00:22:29,652
just off campus agreed
to host the Black Mass.

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00:22:31,611 --> 00:22:32,655
The Black Mass,

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featuring four individuals
in hoods,

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one man in a white suit,
a cape, and a horned mask,

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00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:40,054
and a woman revealed to be
wearing only lingerie.

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00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:43,666
No word on whether they shared
a scorpion bowl after.

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00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:51,587
We were all slightly broken
the next day,

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00:22:52,762 --> 00:22:55,330
and I remember just, like,
I had this just wave

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of just this core of, like,
sadness. I felt guilty.
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I felt just, "What did I do?"

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And then it just occurred to me

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00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:06,385
this is the Catholic Church
of Boston,

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which covered up
decades of child rape,

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00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:13,696
moved priests around,
covered it up,

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00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:17,308
let them continue
their raping and child abuse

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and then had the gall to say
what we're doing was sinful?

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00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,357
I mean, fuck them.

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00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:26,230
Uh, that was the moment
that I really became a Satanist.

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00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:33,934
Let's shift gears
a little bit.

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Tell me about Oklahoma.

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Okay, so Oklahoma had
a Ten Commandments monument

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on government property.

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00:23:41,985 --> 00:23:44,423
In my view, it's clearly
making a religious statement

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00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:47,164
by doing that,
and the Satanic Temple says

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00:23:47,338 --> 00:23:49,138
if you're gonna put
your giant piece of marble

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00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:51,821
that says, "Christianity,
Christianity, Christianity,"

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00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:55,216
then you also need to put up
our gigantic monument

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00:23:55,521 --> 00:23:56,565
to Satanism.

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00:23:59,089 --> 00:24:02,179
Just imagine it,
a statue of Satan right here

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00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:04,617
next to the Ten Commandments
at the State Capitol.

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00:24:04,791 --> 00:24:07,968
The statue will be a symbol
of Satan as a goat.

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00:24:08,142 --> 00:24:09,360
I want to show you
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what this is gonna look like.
Take a look here.

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00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:14,278
It's a seven-foot-tall
goat-headed demon

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sitting on a throne
with two children next to it.

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00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:24,343
They submitted designs,

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00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,377
and they hope construction
will start soon.

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00:24:26,943 --> 00:24:28,823
If we're gonna do this,
we're gonna do it right.

442
00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,948
This is not something
that can be easily ripped down.

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00:24:32,122 --> 00:24:33,602
Like, we're gonna
do this in bronze.

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00:24:33,776 --> 00:24:35,216
We're gonna make
something beautiful.

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00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:36,739
We're gonna make
something permanent.

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00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,607
So we decided to raise money
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00:24:38,781 --> 00:24:42,263
to make
a gigantic Satanic statue.

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00:24:42,437 --> 00:24:45,875
And I have a friend who studied
traditional sculpting,

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so I called him up,
told him the deal.

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00:24:48,965 --> 00:24:51,054
He said, "Are you serious?"

451
00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:53,535
and I said, "Yes, I am,"
and he said...

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"I'm going to clear

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the next six months
of my schedule."

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00:24:58,453 --> 00:25:00,499
♪ There's a call
Comes ringing ♪

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00:25:00,673 --> 00:25:02,588
♪ O'er the restless wave ♪

456
00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:07,027
♪ Send the light
Send the light ♪

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00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:11,901
♪ There are souls to rescue
There are souls to save ♪

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00:25:12,075 --> 00:25:16,079
♪ Send the light
Send the light ♪

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00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:18,473
- ♪ Send the light ♪
- ♪ Send the light ♪

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00:25:18,647 --> 00:25:20,823
♪ The blessed gospel light ♪

461
00:25:20,997 --> 00:25:23,130
- ♪ Let it shine ♪
- ♪ Let it shine ♪

462
00:25:23,304 --> 00:25:25,304
- ♪ From shore to shore ♪
- ♪ From shore to shore ♪

463
00:25:25,436 --> 00:25:27,308
- ♪ Send the light ♪
- ♪ Send the light ♪

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00:25:27,482 --> 00:25:29,832
♪ The blessed gospel light ♪

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00:25:30,006 --> 00:25:31,834
- ♪ Let it shine ♪
- ♪ Let it shine ♪

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00:25:32,008 --> 00:25:34,184
- ♪ Forevermore... ♪
- ♪ Forevermore... ♪

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00:25:34,358 --> 00:25:37,057
I was envisioning,
you know, goat head,

468
00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,233
I mean, everything
you associate with Satanism.

469
00:25:39,407 --> 00:25:41,191
Lucien became involved
at that point

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00:25:41,365 --> 00:25:43,803
and kind of codified it
into an actual Baphomet.

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00:25:44,325 --> 00:25:47,241
The Baphomet image was taken

472
00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:50,679
from a 19th century drawing
of the sabbatic goat.

473
00:25:52,507 --> 00:25:54,074
I originally wanted
bat wings,

474
00:25:54,248 --> 00:25:55,768
but a Baphomet
does not have bat wings.

475
00:25:55,902 --> 00:25:57,294
It has angel wings.

476
00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:02,735
We decided that Iggy Pop
would be the torso.

477
00:26:04,606 --> 00:26:07,348
And a real Baphomet
traditionally has breasts,

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00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:09,437
but because we wanted
to get this

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00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:10,873
in front of the State Capitol,

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00:26:11,265 --> 00:26:12,764
we were worried that
the breasts would hinder us
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00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:13,789
from doing that.

482
00:26:15,225 --> 00:26:16,705
One of the things
that I insisted upon

483
00:26:16,879 --> 00:26:20,840
was having two children...
looking up.

484
00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:26,454
Having little kids around it,
that's just ridiculous.

485
00:26:26,802 --> 00:26:28,891
Are we making a mockery
of everything

486
00:26:29,065 --> 00:26:30,893
with regard to Christianity
in this society?

487
00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:32,503
You may not like the Satanists.

488
00:26:32,678 --> 00:26:34,288
Guess what?
That doesn't matter.

489
00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:36,832
- Do you? Do you?
- Everybody is equal.

490
00:26:36,856 --> 00:26:38,696
I don't care. All religions
are the same to me.

491
00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:40,575
So you think it's perfectly fine
to put a satanic

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whatever message
they're gonna have up there?

493
00:26:42,209 --> 00:26:43,534
- How crazy is it?
- Yes. I mean... You believe

494
00:26:43,558 --> 00:26:44,918
in an invisible man
in the sky too.

495
00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:46,276
You call him Satan,
you call him God. I don't care.

496
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:47,300
Whatever I believe in...

497
00:26:47,997 --> 00:26:49,540
I had followed
the Satanic Temple

498
00:26:49,564 --> 00:26:50,957
in the news
when they had announced

499
00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:52,761
that they were making
the Baphomet statue.

500
00:26:52,785 --> 00:26:55,048
I thought it was
genuinely inspired.

501
00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:56,963
I thought it was hilarious.

502
00:26:57,137 --> 00:26:59,400
And I was completely astounded.

503
00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:01,620
These guys are super cool.
These are my people.

504
00:27:01,794 --> 00:27:03,491
This is the best thing
I've ever seen.

505
00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:06,059
- I was like, "Holy shit."
- I want to be a part of this.

506
00:27:08,888 --> 00:27:11,151
I think
I donated 25 dollars,

507
00:27:11,325 --> 00:27:13,588
and then I wrote them and said,
"If you're ever in L.A.

508
00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:15,155
and you need some help,
hit me up."

509
00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:16,915
I think you're
an incredible organization,

510
00:27:16,939 --> 00:27:18,506
and I would really like
to be involved.

511
00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:26,446
From a constitutional
law perspective,

512
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:28,100
I'm really interested
in the Satanic Temple

513
00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:30,474
because it is basically
making these public bodies

514
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:34,478
confront the real implications
of their decisions

515
00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:36,350
to allow religion
into the public square.

516
00:27:36,524 --> 00:27:38,154
The government can't say,
"You're a good religion.

517
00:27:38,178 --> 00:27:39,178
You're a bad religion."

518
00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,026
- What?
- That's why you should not have

519
00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:42,288
religious artifacts
on public property.

520
00:27:42,312 --> 00:27:44,053
Their figurehead
is an Antichrist.

521
00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:45,827
They should be able to put
the statue up,

522
00:27:45,968 --> 00:27:48,101
and then they should be shot
right next to it,

523
00:27:48,275 --> 00:27:50,514
- and then we take it down.
- So violence is the way

524
00:27:50,538 --> 00:27:52,298
- of dealing with it?
- Yes. You're advocating

525
00:27:52,322 --> 00:27:54,242
violence against people
with religious beliefs...

526
00:27:56,544 --> 00:27:58,372
The Baphomet monument
is far more

527
00:27:58,546 --> 00:28:02,419
than simply some middle finger
to the evangelical right.

528
00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:06,032
Really... we were...

529
00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:09,339
we were giving the Oklahoma
government a civics lesson.

530
00:28:10,514 --> 00:28:12,212
It must be removed.

531
00:28:12,386 --> 00:28:14,736
That is the order on the
Ten Commandments monument

532
00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:17,696
outside the State Capitol
in a seven-to-two vote

533
00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:19,219
by the Oklahoma Supreme Court.

534
00:28:19,523 --> 00:28:20,805
Well, a group
of Satanists

535
00:28:20,829 --> 00:28:22,309
is tonight claiming victory.

536
00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:25,225
Are you still pushing to have
the goat with the horns
537
00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:27,227
and so on put up
on the State Capitol grounds?

538
00:28:28,881 --> 00:28:30,752
No, we don't want
our monument there

539
00:28:30,926 --> 00:28:32,754
without the Ten Commandments there. Um,

540
00:28:32,928 --> 00:28:35,583
the point all along was
that it would complement

541
00:28:35,757 --> 00:28:37,037
and contrast
the Ten Commandments

542
00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:40,414
and reaffirm that we live
in a pluralistic nation

543
00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:43,504
that respects diversity
and religious liberty.

544
00:28:56,996 --> 00:29:01,000
I joined this group
because I saw the TST website,

545
00:29:01,348 --> 00:29:03,393
and it was something
that spoke to me.

546
00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:16,339
- Thank you.
- When people wanted

547
00:29:16,363 --> 00:29:18,974
to start identifying
with the Satanic Temple,
548
00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:21,498
there was no turning back
on that.

549
00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:23,109
People would write us messages

550
00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:24,643
and were wanting
to get involved...

551
00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:28,854
so we decided
to allow people to apply

552
00:29:29,028 --> 00:29:30,812
to run a chapter
in their own city.

553
00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:35,556
I decided to launch
a chapter in Detroit.

554
00:29:36,513 --> 00:29:38,951
Response was incredible.
It was huge.

555
00:29:40,169 --> 00:29:42,084
Hail Satan. Hail Satan.

556
00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:46,618
I don't know
if I was surprised

557
00:29:46,741 --> 00:29:48,101
that people wanted
to get involved.

558
00:29:48,743 --> 00:29:51,103
I was surprised at how many people
wanted to get involved.

559
00:29:53,922 --> 00:29:55,552
All right, friends.
Thanks for coming.

560
00:29:55,576 --> 00:29:57,621
Um, I want to tell you guys
to start with

561
00:29:58,405 --> 00:30:00,711
that we have three people
that we want to make

562
00:30:00,886 --> 00:30:05,455
new members today.
Nick, and Dell, and Erin.

563
00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:08,067
We have a lot of work
to do,

564
00:30:08,545 --> 00:30:11,331
and I think Christian privilege
is a huge problem in our country

565
00:30:11,505 --> 00:30:14,595
because it dictates our laws.
It dictates everything we do,

566
00:30:14,769 --> 00:30:17,032
what bathroom I can use
in some states.

567
00:30:17,206 --> 00:30:19,513
- Hail Satan.
- Hail Satan.

568
00:30:23,343 --> 00:30:27,042
I've just always been
an extremely curious person.

569
00:30:27,216 --> 00:30:28,827
And I used to spend
a lot of time
570
00:30:29,001 --> 00:30:31,612
at the bookstore alone
because I was a huge loser.

571
00:30:31,786 --> 00:30:33,744
'Cause I don't like to be
involved in groups.

572
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,311
I'm not a very social person.

573
00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:37,357
Most of my interactions
are online.

574
00:30:37,531 --> 00:30:40,316
It wasn't until I took
that step to try to meet

575
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:44,668
these people, that's where
it really all came together,

576
00:30:45,278 --> 00:30:46,975
and I was terrified that I was
just gonna

577
00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:48,629
meet a bunch of people
that were like,

578
00:30:48,803 --> 00:30:50,085
"All right, so we're gonna
meet up at the church.

579
00:30:50,109 --> 00:30:51,371
We'll hand out
spray paint cans,

580
00:30:51,632 --> 00:30:53,852
and we'll kick over
some graves." And...
581
00:30:55,462 --> 00:30:56,637
everyone was amazing.

582
00:30:56,811 --> 00:30:57,856
I came from a very,

583
00:30:58,378 --> 00:31:00,162
like, conservatively
religious background.

584
00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:04,688
I was very much a devout
Christian growing up.

585
00:31:05,124 --> 00:31:06,690
You could almost say a zealot.

586
00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:08,779
I've taught Bible school
in our church.

587
00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:10,738
I've taught Sunday school
in our church,

588
00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:14,698
and at the age of 13,
I was called to be a deacon.

589
00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:17,179
The day that I graduated
confirmation,

590
00:31:17,353 --> 00:31:18,789
you know,
we're sitting in church,

591
00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:20,487
and, you know,
we're supposed to feel

592
00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:23,011
the holy spirit come in,
and I'm just like...

593
00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:27,928
...okay.

594
00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,149
When I was in sixth grade,

595
00:31:30,584 --> 00:31:33,892
we went on a field trip
to see the film Gandhi.

596
00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:37,721
The next day
our history teacher said,

597
00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:40,376
"You realize that in spite
of all these great things

598
00:31:40,550 --> 00:31:43,162
that he did for his countrymen
and everything like that,

599
00:31:43,336 --> 00:31:46,382
because he wasn't a Christian,
he went to hell,"

600
00:31:46,992 --> 00:31:48,950
and I'm like, "Really?"

601
00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:53,346
This guy almost invented
the idea of nonviolent protest,

602
00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:55,826
but he's not a Christian,
so he went to hell.

603
00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:59,352
I'm like, "Is that the moral
to this story? Really?
604
00:31:59,526 --> 00:32:01,180
I call bullshit!"

605
00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:04,096
This thing inside me
was just, like...

606
00:32:05,314 --> 00:32:08,187
I want to be the opposite
of what these people are.

607
00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:13,018
That's when I started, like,
looking for Satan anywhere.

608
00:32:14,193 --> 00:32:16,760
- Hail Satan.
- Hail Satan.

609
00:32:22,723 --> 00:32:24,483
When I became a member
of the Satanic Temple,

610
00:32:24,507 --> 00:32:26,770
when I fully embraced
who I was as a Satanist,

611
00:32:27,075 --> 00:32:28,424
uh, it was my coming home.

612
00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:31,079
This is crazy. Isn't this crazy?

613
00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:34,583
You all, like,
came from all over the place.

614
00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:37,886
- Yeah.
- Yeah.

615
00:32:40,001 --> 00:32:43,135
Invoking Satan is invoking
the struggle for justice

616
00:32:43,309 --> 00:32:45,572
and equality for everyone.

617
00:32:46,355 --> 00:32:47,878
Invoking Satan
is the firm denial

618
00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:49,576
that only one point of view
is correct.

619
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:51,510
A willingness to fight
for all points of view

620
00:32:51,665 --> 00:32:53,449
in accordance with reason
is imperative.

621
00:32:53,841 --> 00:32:54,841
Invoking Satan

622
00:32:55,234 --> 00:32:57,105
is to reach out
without reservation

623
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:58,759
and eat from the tree
of knowledge

624
00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:01,501
rather than be subjected
to the whims of blind faith.

625
00:33:01,936 --> 00:33:03,807
We will no longer choose
apathy over action

626
00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:05,505
and perpetuate
our own oppression.

627
00:33:06,158 --> 00:33:08,029
Ave Satanas.

628
00:33:08,464 --> 00:33:09,784
- Ave Satanas.
- Ave Satanas.

629
00:33:09,944 --> 00:33:12,120
Hail Satan!

630
00:33:13,078 --> 00:33:14,993
Oh, those are cute.

631
00:33:15,167 --> 00:33:19,475
Satanism is looking out
for the Other

632
00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,434
because we are the Other.

633
00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:29,224
In three years, we have gone
from three people to 50,000.

634
00:33:32,923 --> 00:33:35,317
As we bring the Satanic
revolution to the world,

635
00:33:35,491 --> 00:33:40,453
we do indeed invoke Satan
and all that he means to us.

636
00:33:40,844 --> 00:33:44,370
Join us in reciting,
ave Satanas!

637
00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:46,633
Ave Satanas!

638
00:33:46,807 --> 00:33:50,158
- Hail Satan!
- Hail Satan!

639
00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:54,119
- Ave Satanas!
- Ave Satanas!

640
00:33:54,293 --> 00:33:57,818
- Hail Satan!
- Hail Satan!

641
00:34:10,439 --> 00:34:12,702
I was just a member,
a card-carrying member,

642
00:34:12,876 --> 00:34:15,140
and I wanted to get
more involved,

643
00:34:15,314 --> 00:34:16,924
but I had no real
aspirations to be...

644
00:34:17,838 --> 00:34:20,536
you know, I don't know.
I just wanted to do something.

645
00:34:21,624 --> 00:34:24,627
In the capital of Phoenix,
there were these invocations

646
00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:27,021
or prayers before city council meetings.

647
00:34:27,369 --> 00:34:30,111
So please, if you can,
stand for the invocation.

648
00:34:31,286 --> 00:34:33,767
It's usually
a hundred percent Christian,

649
00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:36,813
and then every now and then
they'll throw another group in

650
00:34:36,987 --> 00:34:38,511
to celebrate
how diverse they are.

651
00:34:39,294 --> 00:34:41,403
I was a nobody.
I was kind of, like, you know,

652
00:34:41,427 --> 00:34:43,646
just in this organization
as a bystander,

653
00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:46,040
commenting
and supporting online,

654
00:34:46,258 --> 00:34:49,130
and then I was very interested
in helping out

655
00:34:49,304 --> 00:34:51,089
in whatever capacity
that I could.

656
00:34:51,567 --> 00:34:53,874
Michelle was a radio personality
at the time.

657
00:34:54,048 --> 00:34:56,616
I was an attorney,
and the first thing we did

658
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:57,790
was we wrote an email

659
00:34:58,270 --> 00:34:59,750
to the city clerk in Phoenix
and said,

660
00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:01,510
"Hey, we see you have
this invocation program

661
00:35:01,534 --> 00:35:03,534
on a rotating basis.
We'd like to be on that list."

662
00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:04,943
We got a response email
that said,

663
00:35:04,972 --> 00:35:06,016
"Okay, here's your date."

664
00:35:06,495 --> 00:35:09,107
A lot of people talking
about the Satanic Temple

665
00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:11,674
in Tucson,
set to give an invocation

666
00:35:11,848 --> 00:35:13,676
at the Phoenix city
council meeting

667
00:35:13,937 --> 00:35:14,982
coming up next month.

668
00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:18,464
"Let us demand
that individuals be judged

669
00:35:18,638 --> 00:35:19,987
for their concrete actions."

670
00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:21,892
That is just part
of the prayer

671
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,339
that members of the
Satanic Temple plan to read

672
00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:26,044
at the Phoenix city
council meeting.

673
00:35:26,211 --> 00:35:27,536
People that were
interviewing us

674
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,952
were bringing holy water
with them.

675
00:35:29,344 --> 00:35:31,129
Uh, it was...
it was complete insanity,

676
00:35:31,303 --> 00:35:33,019
and there came a point
where Michelle and I were like,

677
00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:34,043
"What have we done?"

678
00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:35,481
You wouldn't let ISIS come in

679
00:35:35,655 --> 00:35:37,255
and give a prayer
at the city of Phoenix.

680
00:35:37,309 --> 00:35:38,875
Are you comparing these guys
to ISIS?

681
00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:41,704
Well, ISIS is evil.
What is Satan?

682
00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:44,248
I'd like to make a motion
to change the practice
683
00:35:44,272 --> 00:35:45,360
relating to invocations

684
00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:47,185
and those chosen
to give the invocation

685
00:35:47,232 --> 00:35:48,972
be residents
of the city of Phoenix.

686
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:50,191
That's okay to do that.

687
00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:52,454
That's constitutional
to change it,

688
00:35:52,933 --> 00:35:53,934
but what we couldn't do

689
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,937
is apply it retroactively
in this case.

690
00:35:57,242 --> 00:36:00,027
That would be
an unconstitutional suppression

691
00:36:00,419 --> 00:36:03,073
of a minority
religious viewpoint,

692
00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:05,902
which is in contravention
of the First Amendment

693
00:36:06,076 --> 00:36:07,426
of the United States
Constitution.

694
00:36:09,123 --> 00:36:10,709
We knew that there were
gonna be meetings,

695
00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:12,300
but we decided that, uh,

696
00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:14,125
it was probably dangerous
for us to go.

697
00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:15,975
I mean, people were
threatening to murder us.

698
00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:17,606
Uh, people were threatening
to shoot us

699
00:36:17,871 --> 00:36:20,308
on the way up the steps,
um, and it wasn't worth it,

700
00:36:20,482 --> 00:36:24,573
and it was streaming live,
so we watched in horror.

701
00:36:25,139 --> 00:36:27,707
We cannot stand by
while a hate group

702
00:36:28,011 --> 00:36:29,926
stands up
and gives your invocation.

703
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,146
It's our goal to shut down
their agenda,

704
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,062
which is to bring death
and destruction over Phoenix.

705
00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:37,934
We take a Pledge of Allegiance.
It's one nation under God.

706
00:36:38,108 --> 00:36:39,327
- Yes.
- Yes.

707
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,721
That's not out there by mistake.

708
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,857
How many people
actually have a dollar bill

709
00:36:48,249 --> 00:36:51,078
or a piece of money
in their wallet or their pocket?

710
00:36:52,558 --> 00:36:56,431
I do believe it says,
"In God We Trust."

711
00:36:56,605 --> 00:36:57,824
- Yes!
- Yes!

712
00:36:59,739 --> 00:37:03,133
So are we invoking still
the blessings of God

713
00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:04,961
on our state and our city?

714
00:37:05,135 --> 00:37:09,314
Are we invoking the curses
of the deity spoken of

715
00:37:09,488 --> 00:37:11,011
that they serve as Satan?

716
00:37:11,185 --> 00:37:13,492
There are too many curses
on our land,

717
00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:15,581
and we don't need another curse.

718
00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:18,714
Do we want God in this room,
or don't we?

719
00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:21,239
Don't mock God.

720
00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:23,545
We want to lift up
the name of Jesus.

721
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,319
There is no other name
in heaven on earth

722
00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:28,463
whereby a man must be saved
in the name of Jesus Christ.

723
00:37:28,637 --> 00:37:31,423
Let's get that straight.
Make no mistake about it.

724
00:37:31,597 --> 00:37:33,425
Jesus is the way.

725
00:37:34,164 --> 00:37:35,427
Please, as briefly as possible.

726
00:37:35,601 --> 00:37:37,081
We have a lot of cards
to get through.

727
00:37:37,603 --> 00:37:38,995
In a matter of one week,

728
00:37:39,169 --> 00:37:41,171
a decades-old tradition
of public prayer

729
00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:44,174
before the city of Phoenix
council meetings was history.

730
00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:47,003
In its place, a moment
of silent public prayer.

731
00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:49,528
It's kind of shocking
that they would do away

732
00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:50,964
with a 60-year tradition

733
00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:53,227
for something
that was so harmless.

734
00:37:54,184 --> 00:37:56,274
The more hate
that was thrown at us,

735
00:37:56,448 --> 00:37:57,884
the more important this seemed

736
00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:00,365
because it seemed
like such a deeper issue

737
00:38:00,539 --> 00:38:02,139
than a two-minute speech,
where I'm like,

738
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,325
"Is this how everyone
that's different is treated?"

739
00:38:05,065 --> 00:38:07,197
And, you know,
740
00:38:07,633 --> 00:38:09,765
it's not something
that I'd faced in my own life.

741
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,028
For me to get this
from my religion,

742
00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:16,294
a minority religion, um,
it was pretty eye-opening,

743
00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:18,121
and that's what made me realize

744
00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:20,602
how absolutely important
this is.

745
00:38:29,698 --> 00:38:30,698
Thank you.

746
00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,080
The bill today
allowing a monument

747
00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:45,104
of the Ten Commandments

748
00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:46,951
to be placed
at the State Capitol

749
00:38:47,194 --> 00:38:48,935
was filed
by Senator Jason Rapert.

750
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,305
State Senator Jason Rapert
says the monument

751
00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:53,243
isn't meant to be
a religious statement,

752
00:38:53,461 --> 00:38:54,854
rather a testament
to what he calls

753
00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:57,160
the historical
moral foundation of law.

754
00:38:57,335 --> 00:39:01,034
These references are woven
into the fabric of our society.

755
00:39:01,469 --> 00:39:02,775
We're one nation under God.

756
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,386
Our national motto
is in God We Trust.

757
00:39:05,908 --> 00:39:08,433
It's time in our country
to remind ourselves of,

758
00:39:08,607 --> 00:39:10,522
really, those things
that were important to us,

759
00:39:10,696 --> 00:39:12,001
that were universal to us.

760
00:39:12,175 --> 00:39:13,495
Senator Rapert,
you know, again...

761
00:39:13,873 --> 00:39:15,918
I'm a taxpaying member
of the state of Arkansas,

762
00:39:16,528 --> 00:39:17,808
and those
are my Capitol grounds,

763
00:39:17,877 --> 00:39:19,008
and I don't want that there.

764
00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:24,623
I was a... I would say
a zesty little atheist,

765
00:39:24,797 --> 00:39:26,755
and I happened to go

766
00:39:26,929 --> 00:39:29,367
to the American Atheist rally
in Memphis.

767
00:39:30,498 --> 00:39:31,498
One of the presenters

768
00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:33,390
is a gentleman
named Lucien Greaves.

769
00:39:33,414 --> 00:39:35,808
You may be aware
of our monument campaign

770
00:39:35,982 --> 00:39:36,982
in Oklahoma.

771
00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,483
He proceeds to give
an entire presentation

772
00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:41,006
of how they took a Ten Commandments
monument down

773
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:42,030
in Oklahoma...

774
00:39:43,032 --> 00:39:45,470
and my immediate thought was,
"I've got to talk to this guy."

775
00:39:46,862 --> 00:39:49,343
- Our Lady Victory.
- Pray for us.

776
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,869
Monuments to both
the Ten Commandments

777
00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,524
and Satan could soon
find a home on the grounds

778
00:39:56,698 --> 00:39:58,483
near the Arkansas
State Capitol.

779
00:39:58,657 --> 00:40:00,297
Today the subcommittee
of the Capitol Arts

780
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,008
and Grounds Commissions
held meetings

781
00:40:02,182 --> 00:40:04,271
to review
the proposed monuments.

782
00:40:04,445 --> 00:40:06,491
The American History
and Heritage Foundation

783
00:40:06,665 --> 00:40:08,493
wants a Ten Commandments
monument,

784
00:40:08,667 --> 00:40:11,409
and the Satanic Temple
wants a statue of Baphomet.
785
00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:14,063
I pledge allegiance
to the Flag

786
00:40:14,237 --> 00:40:16,326
of the United States
of America

787
00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:19,155
and to the Republic
for which it stands,

788
00:40:19,329 --> 00:40:21,331
one nation, under God,

789
00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:24,813
indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

790
00:40:25,335 --> 00:40:28,600
Thank you.
And Mr. Lucien Graves is here.

791
00:40:29,035 --> 00:40:30,602
Did I pronounce that...
Graves, or...

792
00:40:30,819 --> 00:40:32,952
- Greaves.
- Greaves, I apologize.

793
00:40:33,126 --> 00:40:36,825
I want to get that right too,
but they have proposed to place

794
00:40:36,999 --> 00:40:41,134
a statue of Baphomet
on the Capitol grounds.

795
00:40:41,743 --> 00:40:45,660
Here's a... here's a more recent
picture of our monument, uh,
796
00:40:45,834 --> 00:40:48,489
it stands at eight feet,
six inches in height,

797
00:40:48,794 --> 00:40:51,231
a width at the base
of the throne

798
00:40:51,405 --> 00:40:53,451
of 37 and a quarter inches.

799
00:40:53,842 --> 00:40:55,627
From the back
of the throne to the front

800
00:40:55,801 --> 00:40:57,933
it's 46 and a half inches,

801
00:40:58,281 --> 00:41:01,284
and the widest point
is at the tips of the wings,

802
00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:03,852
which is 55 and a half inches
in width.

803
00:41:09,162 --> 00:41:10,424
If you have any questions?

804
00:41:11,425 --> 00:41:15,995
What are you memorializing,
or what is your monument to?

805
00:41:16,778 --> 00:41:19,477
Well, we think
that our monument commemorates

806
00:41:19,651 --> 00:41:21,261
what makes America great,

807
00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:24,656
and in our case, we believe
that that's religious liberty.

808
00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,110
And you mentioned earlier

809
00:41:26,527 --> 00:41:28,070
that if the Ten Commandments
monument doesn't go up,

810
00:41:28,094 --> 00:41:30,183
then you would
withdraw this request?

811
00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:32,272
Correct.
What we're trying to avoid

812
00:41:32,446 --> 00:41:35,057
is the appearance
of one religious viewpoint,

813
00:41:35,362 --> 00:41:37,756
uh, apparently co-opting
the power

814
00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:40,149
and the authority
of a government institution.

815
00:41:40,585 --> 00:41:42,630
We feel that
that is unconstitutional.

816
00:41:42,804 --> 00:41:44,893
And just as
none of the Ten Commandments

817
00:41:45,067 --> 00:41:47,156
are cited
within the Constitution

818
00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:49,855
or...
or in any of your state laws,

819
00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:55,556
um, the principle of this kind
of religious equality

820
00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:57,123
and government
viewpoint neutrality

821
00:41:57,297 --> 00:41:59,560
is enshrined
in the Constitution.

822
00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:06,393
American jurisprudence based
a lot of our initial laws

823
00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:08,743
on the Ten Commandments.
You will find this

824
00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:10,919
in the writings
of our Founding Fathers.

825
00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:16,678
For most historians,
the question,

826
00:42:16,882 --> 00:42:18,602
"Was America founded
as a Christian nation?"

827
00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:20,494
is fairly straightforward
to answer.

828
00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:22,714
The record seems quite clear
that we were not.

829
00:42:23,932 --> 00:42:26,674
You can look
at the U.S. Constitution.

830
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,920
And when George Washington

831
00:42:28,981 --> 00:42:30,548
signed that document,

832
00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:34,900
he laid the foundation
for our great democracy.

833
00:42:35,074 --> 00:42:40,166
G... gee, that's wonderful.

834
00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:42,516
The only mentions
of religion or God

835
00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:43,690
in the Constitution,

836
00:42:44,605 --> 00:42:47,216
uh, in fact, are ones that keep
religion away from the state.

837
00:42:47,477 --> 00:42:49,281
And if you look at the 1950s,
you can see a lot

838
00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:51,656
of the trappings
that Americans point to today

839
00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,353
as proof that their nation

840
00:42:53,527 --> 00:42:55,747
is a Christian nation
were invented.

841
00:42:55,921 --> 00:42:57,601
Many people say, well,
what is hell?

842
00:42:57,836 --> 00:43:00,236
- Hell is separation from God...
- We see in the 1950s

843
00:43:00,316 --> 00:43:03,145
the origins of what we might
term an evangelical lobby.

844
00:43:03,319 --> 00:43:05,191
Jesus demanded repentance.

845
00:43:05,365 --> 00:43:06,845
Billy Graham tells Americans

846
00:43:07,019 --> 00:43:09,717
that communism
is directed by Satan.

847
00:43:09,935 --> 00:43:12,111
We thought we could
get along without God.

848
00:43:12,285 --> 00:43:14,722
We thought we could get along
without a moral standard.

849
00:43:14,896 --> 00:43:17,246
We thought we could get along
without the Ten Commandments

850
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:18,726
and the Sermon on the Mount,

851
00:43:19,292 --> 00:43:21,860
and we're beginning to wake up
to the fact that we can't!

852
00:43:22,425 --> 00:43:27,039
Jesus said, "Except ye repent,
ye shall likewise perish."

853
00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:28,213
Repent!

854
00:43:34,263 --> 00:43:35,543
The country's just learned

855
00:43:36,004 --> 00:43:37,644
that the Soviet Union
has the atomic bomb,

856
00:43:37,745 --> 00:43:39,465
and he warns them
that Armageddon is coming.

857
00:43:40,182 --> 00:43:42,663
Unless the nation rediscovers
its religious roots,

858
00:43:42,837 --> 00:43:43,882
it'll be destroyed.

859
00:43:46,058 --> 00:43:48,147
As America went to war
with the godless communists

860
00:43:48,321 --> 00:43:49,321
of the Soviet Union,

861
00:43:49,931 --> 00:43:51,716
Americans discovered
God themselves.

862
00:43:53,282 --> 00:43:55,023
And so
this is a remarkable moment

863
00:43:55,458 --> 00:43:57,306
when the nation really does
start to think of itself

864
00:43:57,330 --> 00:43:58,330
as Christian.

865
00:43:59,158 --> 00:44:00,812
In just the span
of a few years,

866
00:44:01,029 --> 00:44:02,949
"Under God" is added
to the Pledge of Allegiance,

867
00:44:03,075 --> 00:44:05,207
"In God We Trust"
is placed on paper currency

868
00:44:05,381 --> 00:44:06,861
and becomes
the nation's motto.

869
00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:09,777
For most Americans,
these ceremonies

870
00:44:09,951 --> 00:44:12,127
and slogans
mattered more than anything

871
00:44:12,301 --> 00:44:14,173
that was literally written
in the Constitution

872
00:44:14,347 --> 00:44:16,628
because they were the things
they said day in and day out.

873
00:44:16,784 --> 00:44:19,308
Their kids said the Pledge.
They saw it on their money.

874
00:44:19,918 --> 00:44:21,484
It was all over their world.

875
00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:24,096
It really becomes
an integral part

876
00:44:24,270 --> 00:44:26,011
of who Americans
think they are.

877
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,798
We are what we believe.

878
00:44:34,759 --> 00:44:36,559
Victory today
for the placement

879
00:44:36,586 --> 00:44:38,260
of a Satanic monument
on State Capitol grounds.

880
00:44:38,284 --> 00:44:40,678
That's right. This proposal
is deemed sufficient

881
00:44:40,852 --> 00:44:42,680
by the Capitol Arts
and Grounds Commission,

882
00:44:42,854 --> 00:44:45,160
but now comes the hurdle
of getting the statue

883
00:44:45,334 --> 00:44:46,988
approved by the legislature.

884
00:44:48,555 --> 00:44:52,690
It will be a very cold,
cold day in the pits of hell

885
00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:56,302
before you'll ever see a statue
from the Satanic Temple

886
00:44:56,476 --> 00:45:00,219
or some other group like that
at the Arkansas Capitol.

887
00:45:01,133 --> 00:45:03,613
For Greaves,
it's a monumental task ahead,

888
00:45:03,788 --> 00:45:04,788
stirring up what could be

889
00:45:05,311 --> 00:45:06,751
a controversy
of biblical proportions

890
00:45:06,878 --> 00:45:08,749
on the Arkansas
State Capitol grounds.

891
00:45:10,577 --> 00:45:12,076
Do you think
that most people think

892
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,599
you're kidding
or that most people think

893
00:45:13,623 --> 00:45:14,623
you're evil?

894
00:45:15,495 --> 00:45:16,775
You know,
it's really interesting

895
00:45:17,105 --> 00:45:19,412
because people
who don't understand the value

896
00:45:19,586 --> 00:45:21,544
and concepts of Satanism
are so ingrained

897
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,025
in this Judeo-Christian
concept of good and evil.
898
00:45:24,373 --> 00:45:27,115
Of course, why would anybody
claim to embrace evil?

899
00:45:27,768 --> 00:45:28,813
But we're not doing that.

900
00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:34,035
Holy Mary, mother of God,
pray for us sinners,

901
00:45:34,209 --> 00:45:36,342
now and at the hour
of our death, amen.

902
00:45:38,126 --> 00:45:39,190
The bagpipes had just started

903
00:45:39,214 --> 00:45:40,214
playing once again.

904
00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:42,799
This is all happening
because the newly-formed

905
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:45,655
After School Satan Club
is holding an open house.

906
00:45:45,830 --> 00:45:48,310
Organizers say
the After School Satan Club

907
00:45:48,484 --> 00:45:51,052
is designed to counter
after-school Christian clubs

908
00:45:51,226 --> 00:45:53,315
holding meetings
inside public schools.

909
00:45:54,055 --> 00:45:55,335
The Satanic Temple

910
00:45:55,709 --> 00:45:56,709
says that the club is meant
to broaden

911
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:57,885
the mindset of students

912
00:45:58,233 --> 00:45:59,713
through critical
thinking skills.

913
00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:06,938
You know, I understand
you guys don't want to follow

914
00:46:07,112 --> 00:46:08,766
the status quo of religion.
That's fine.

915
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:10,220
What you guys do
on your own time

916
00:46:10,332 --> 00:46:11,812
- is your own business.
- Mm-hmm.

917
00:46:11,943 --> 00:46:13,485
If you really just want
to help the community,

918
00:46:13,509 --> 00:46:14,573
- then go help the community.
- We can help

919
00:46:14,597 --> 00:46:15,816
the community as Satanists.

920
00:46:16,469 --> 00:46:18,273
How are you guys gonna help
the community as Satanists?

921
00:46:18,297 --> 00:46:19,840
- We have been.
- When people already have...

922
00:46:19,864 --> 00:46:21,082
Around the country.

923
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:23,476
We are providing
an alternate viewpoint,

924
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:25,695
an opportunity for kids
to have an understanding

925
00:46:25,870 --> 00:46:27,848
that there is different ways
of looking at the world.

926
00:46:27,872 --> 00:46:29,612
That's fine.
You're not their parents.

927
00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:31,587
Why don't you go do this
at your kids' school?

928
00:46:31,701 --> 00:46:33,878
- Please, please...
- You guys are horrible people.

929
00:46:34,052 --> 00:46:36,358
You have scared
an entire school district.

930
00:46:36,532 --> 00:46:38,230
You have frightened
an entire community.

931
00:46:38,404 --> 00:46:40,449
I hope that falls in line
with your guise

932
00:46:40,623 --> 00:46:42,756
of enlightenment
and prosperity.

933
00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:44,714
- Time to go, lady.
- Bunch of assholes.

934
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,108
Hey, watch your language
with the kids.

935
00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:51,329
Looking good.

936
00:46:51,983 --> 00:46:53,903
I was gonna say.

937
00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,471
When people ask
what kind of child

938
00:47:02,645 --> 00:47:05,344
would want to be involved
in a club like this,

939
00:47:05,779 --> 00:47:08,390
the answer is,
I was that kind of child.

940
00:47:14,701 --> 00:47:18,226
Devil Worship.
Exposing Satan's Underground.

941
00:47:21,447 --> 00:47:24,058
Whether a Satan exists
is a matter of belief,

942
00:47:24,232 --> 00:47:26,365
but we are certain
that Satanism exists.
943
00:47:26,713 --> 00:47:28,149
To some it's a religion.

944
00:47:28,584 --> 00:47:32,066
To others it's the practice
of evil in the Devil's name.

945
00:47:32,414 --> 00:47:34,634
It exists,
and it's flourishing.

946
00:47:36,027 --> 00:47:37,627
You can't really
fully understand

947
00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:39,465
the Satanic Temple
if you don't understand

948
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,729
the Satanic Panic
of the 1980s and '90s.

949
00:47:43,991 --> 00:47:49,083
The United States was caught up
by anti-Satanist hysterics.

950
00:47:49,388 --> 00:47:52,826
Baby killings,
ritualistic rape, cannibalism.

951
00:47:53,783 --> 00:47:55,481
I was a young child

952
00:47:56,177 --> 00:47:58,658
seeing these claims
about satanic cults,

953
00:47:58,832 --> 00:48:01,922
a criminal network,
abusing babies,
954
00:48:02,096 --> 00:48:03,881
and driving children
to Satanism.

955
00:48:05,186 --> 00:48:07,580
Unsuspecting young people
are drawn to the occult

956
00:48:07,754 --> 00:48:09,625
by seemingly
harmless pleasures.

957
00:48:09,930 --> 00:48:13,325
They start by participating
in fantasy role-playing games

958
00:48:13,499 --> 00:48:15,893
like Dungeons & Dragons.

959
00:48:16,067 --> 00:48:19,418
Okay,
you enter a very small room,

960
00:48:20,201 --> 00:48:23,117
and there's a large black coffin
right in the center.

961
00:48:23,726 --> 00:48:24,989
The gates shut behind you.

962
00:48:25,815 --> 00:48:29,341
As a kid in the '80s,
I loved Dungeons & Dragons...

963
00:48:30,472 --> 00:48:33,301
and I played
Dungeons & Dragons constantly,

964
00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:38,959
and several of my friends'
mothers forbade them

965
00:48:39,612 --> 00:48:42,745
from hanging out with me.
That was, like...

966
00:48:43,833 --> 00:48:46,314
you know, my childhood brush
with the Satanic Panic.

967
00:48:46,619 --> 00:48:49,274
Millions enjoy D&D,
as the game is called,

968
00:48:49,448 --> 00:48:51,406
but we don't really know
how many find

969
00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:54,540
unsuspected dragons
in their psychic dungeons.

970
00:48:54,888 --> 00:48:57,499
How, then, do we deal
with our demons?

971
00:48:59,545 --> 00:49:01,329
And then I was
a young teenage metalhead.

972
00:49:06,073 --> 00:49:08,510
I loved heavy metal
and Dungeons & Dragons,

973
00:49:08,684 --> 00:49:10,773
which meant that there was,
like, a social campaign

974
00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:12,645
against everything I loved.

975
00:49:13,472 --> 00:49:15,300
If one or more
of these warning signs

976
00:49:15,517 --> 00:49:18,346
are evident, you should look further
for ritual items

977
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,349
such as a pentagram
or other satanic symbols.

978
00:49:21,741 --> 00:49:23,351
Experts advise you contact

979
00:49:23,525 --> 00:49:25,963
your local law enforcement
agency at once.

980
00:49:27,921 --> 00:49:29,444
The church
called it satanic,

981
00:49:29,749 --> 00:49:31,838
and, you know, I didn't mind
antagonizing them,

982
00:49:32,056 --> 00:49:33,796
so I just embraced
some of these symbols

983
00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:36,277
and ideas, you know,
but what it really was,

984
00:49:36,451 --> 00:49:38,845
is, like, these were the things
that made my life great.

985
00:49:39,541 --> 00:49:42,327
D&D was awesome.
I'd play D&D all night,

986
00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:45,591
whole weekends, whole weeks
at a time sometimes,

987
00:49:45,765 --> 00:49:47,245
when I could, you know?

988
00:49:47,419 --> 00:49:48,942
And then, you know,
heavy metal shows

989
00:49:49,116 --> 00:49:51,466
is what my life
was built around in my teens.

990
00:49:51,945 --> 00:49:53,816
Chris Edmonds
is a Detroit disc jockey

991
00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:56,645
whose specialty is finding
secret recorded messages

992
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:58,691
by playing music in reverse.

993
00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:02,042
A lot of people hear the phrase,
"My sweet Satan."

994
00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:04,871
♪ Here's to my sweet Satan ♪

995
00:50:05,045 --> 00:50:06,699
- You hear it?
- My sweet Satan.

996
00:50:07,134 --> 00:50:08,414
With Dungeons & Dragons

997
00:50:08,483 --> 00:50:10,485
and heavy metal music,

998
00:50:10,964 --> 00:50:13,575
parents were like,
"Well, those are the doorways
999
00:50:13,749 --> 00:50:16,709
to the Devil," and it's like...
In hindsight it's like,

1000
00:50:17,318 --> 00:50:19,233
"Yeah, maybe you're right."

1001
00:50:21,192 --> 00:50:24,325
You'll note on our model
the pentagram on the right

1002
00:50:24,499 --> 00:50:26,327
and the left side
of the upper chest.

1003
00:50:26,501 --> 00:50:29,809
Today people laugh
about the moral panic

1004
00:50:29,983 --> 00:50:32,551
surrounding things
like Dungeons & Dragons

1005
00:50:32,725 --> 00:50:36,729
or backwards masking in music,
but the fact of the matter is

1006
00:50:36,903 --> 00:50:39,558
the Satanic Panic
ruined people's lives.

1007
00:50:42,865 --> 00:50:44,258
- Pardon me?
- Do you worship Satan

1008
00:50:44,432 --> 00:50:46,086
- in any fashion?
- Not at all.

1009
00:50:46,739 --> 00:50:49,002
People who got accused
of satanic crimes
1010
00:50:49,568 --> 00:50:52,527
were not Satanists
and... and innocent.

1011
00:50:53,572 --> 00:50:55,661
The thing that I think
is really remarkable

1012
00:50:55,835 --> 00:50:57,445
and that everyone
has to pay attention to

1013
00:50:57,837 --> 00:51:00,927
is that the Satanic
Panic fantasies

1014
00:51:01,623 --> 00:51:04,496
were being indulged
by Christians.

1015
00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:06,300
A Pennsylvania
grand jury report

1016
00:51:06,324 --> 00:51:07,324
released last month

1017
00:51:07,934 --> 00:51:09,718
found more than 300
Catholic priests

1018
00:51:09,892 --> 00:51:13,679
sexually abused more than
1,000 children since 1947.

1019
00:51:13,853 --> 00:51:17,552
The Satanic Panic, we now
know in an entirely verified

1020
00:51:17,726 --> 00:51:20,729
and publicly known way,
was projection.
1021
00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:24,037
They were doing it.

1022
00:51:25,995 --> 00:51:27,084
I was playing D&D.

1023
00:51:30,478 --> 00:51:34,178
I came to see
that these cults themselves

1024
00:51:34,352 --> 00:51:35,744
never actually existed,

1025
00:51:36,049 --> 00:51:38,617
that the real evil
was in the witch hunt itself.

1026
00:51:38,791 --> 00:51:40,314
I know
not if she be a witch.

1027
00:51:40,662 --> 00:51:43,143
No, no, no, no!
You have the wrong woman.

1028
00:51:43,317 --> 00:51:45,406
In just a few minutes' time
the trial

1029
00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:48,453
of Bridget Bishop,
accused of witchcraft.

1030
00:51:57,897 --> 00:52:00,682
Unlike the Salem witch trials,

1031
00:52:01,030 --> 00:52:04,512
where there was some degree
of introspection afterwards,

1032
00:52:04,686 --> 00:52:06,606
there was even an apology
from one of the judges.

1033
00:52:06,732 --> 00:52:08,168
There was a general recognition

1034
00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:11,090
that something had gone wrong
and things needed to change...

1035
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:14,435
no such thing happened
with the Satanic Panic...

1036
00:52:15,523 --> 00:52:18,657
and so I feel like
this is very much our fight,

1037
00:52:18,918 --> 00:52:20,963
forwarding
what it actually means

1038
00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:22,138
to be a Satanist,

1039
00:52:22,922 --> 00:52:25,881
and not allowing witch hunters
to define that for us.

1040
00:52:27,796 --> 00:52:29,058
In the coming months...

1041
00:52:48,774 --> 00:52:50,428
The Satanic Temple
of West Florida

1042
00:52:50,602 --> 00:52:52,473
is collecting socks.

1043
00:52:52,647 --> 00:52:55,433
To help bring dry socks
to local homeless people.

1044
00:52:55,607 --> 00:52:56,847
It doesn't matter
about the name

1045
00:52:56,912 --> 00:52:58,175
or where it's coming from,

1046
00:52:58,653 --> 00:53:00,655
as long as, you know,
they're doing what they can.

1047
00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:09,055
Ah! We have donations.

1048
00:53:09,882 --> 00:53:11,927
Menstruatin' with Satan
is a charity campaign

1049
00:53:12,101 --> 00:53:16,584
that focuses on collecting
menstrual products, tampons,

1050
00:53:16,758 --> 00:53:21,067
pads, to distribute these
to local shelters in our area.

1051
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,859
The Seattle chapter
of the Satanic Temple

1052
00:53:31,033 --> 00:53:34,036
did a blood drive,
which was really, pretty fun.

1053
00:53:35,864 --> 00:53:37,364
For drivers
along the I-10

1054
00:53:37,388 --> 00:53:38,432
near Casa Grande,

1055
00:53:38,824 --> 00:53:40,173
the Satanic Temple
of Arizona

1056
00:53:40,565 --> 00:53:42,784
has now adopted
a two-mile stretch of roadway.

1057
00:53:42,958 --> 00:53:45,874
They even use
pitchforks to pick up trash.

1058
00:53:46,092 --> 00:53:47,833
Yes, pitchforks.

1059
00:53:48,094 --> 00:53:51,793
This is a group who just wants
people to know they exist,

1060
00:53:51,967 --> 00:53:55,144
they're friendly,
and they also hate litter.

1061
00:53:56,494 --> 00:53:58,844
As of yesterday, uh,
Seabright State Beach

1062
00:53:59,018 --> 00:54:00,324
was officially adopted

1063
00:54:00,802 --> 00:54:03,979
by the Santa Cruz chapter
of the Satanic Temple.

1064
00:54:04,153 --> 00:54:05,566
The Satanic Temple will serve

1065
00:54:05,590 --> 00:54:06,808
as the caretaker for it,

1066
00:54:07,026 --> 00:54:08,375
constantly helping
keep it clean

1067
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:09,549
for the next year.

1068
00:54:16,949 --> 00:54:18,951
In order to help manage
the expansive growth

1069
00:54:19,125 --> 00:54:20,779
that we were experiencing,

1070
00:54:20,953 --> 00:54:24,086
we decided to start
the National Council.

1071
00:54:24,261 --> 00:54:26,915
We've become pretty much
the de facto governing body

1072
00:54:27,089 --> 00:54:28,221
of TST.

1073
00:54:28,787 --> 00:54:30,310
We work directly
as a point of contact

1074
00:54:30,484 --> 00:54:32,225
with the chapter heads
of the chapter

1075
00:54:32,573 --> 00:54:35,141
to address any concerns,
to help them develop ideas,

1076
00:54:35,315 --> 00:54:37,032
and to make sure that they're
on the right track

1077
00:54:37,056 --> 00:54:39,493
in terms of what
the overall mission of TST is.

1078
00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:41,713
That's our overarching thing
to do

1079
00:54:41,887 --> 00:54:43,212
as...
as part of the National Council,

1080
00:54:43,236 --> 00:54:45,020
is to work with the chapters.

1081
00:54:45,194 --> 00:54:49,634
Yeah, Kym, do you think that
that's an... a reasonable pivot?

1082
00:54:49,808 --> 00:54:52,724
Like... God,
I'm using corporate buzzwords.

1083
00:54:52,898 --> 00:54:54,856
Um...

1084
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,989
We just want
to be conscientious.

1085
00:54:57,424 --> 00:54:58,967
We want to do as much good
as we possibly can.

1086
00:54:58,991 --> 00:55:00,079
- Mm-hmm.
- Cool.

1087
00:55:00,688 --> 00:55:02,275
I initially imagined
that the Satanic Temple

1088
00:55:02,299 --> 00:55:04,605
would have
no central authority,

1089
00:55:05,214 --> 00:55:09,175
but at this point
we're very keen to make sure
1090
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:12,221
chapters don't put out
the wrong message.

1091
00:55:30,979 --> 00:55:32,894
There is a prescribed
set of rules

1092
00:55:33,068 --> 00:55:34,983
about how you are supposed
to protest.

1093
00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:36,724
You go to
your local politician.

1094
00:55:36,898 --> 00:55:38,900
You register
to hold a rally

1095
00:55:39,074 --> 00:55:41,033
that is approved
by the city council.

1096
00:55:42,382 --> 00:55:43,688
But I feel very strongly

1097
00:55:43,862 --> 00:55:48,170
that you can't dismantle
corrupt systems of power

1098
00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:49,998
while functioning within them.

1099
00:55:53,698 --> 00:55:55,308
We don't have money.
We don't have power.

1100
00:55:55,482 --> 00:55:57,310
We have
relatively little voice.
1101
00:55:57,919 --> 00:56:00,357
When we go and we do a political action,

1102
00:56:00,531 --> 00:56:02,141
it's more than just a protest.

1103
00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:04,970
To us it is the celebration
of our Satanic spirit.

1104
00:56:06,101 --> 00:56:08,190
It's a ritual in and of itself.

1105
00:56:11,150 --> 00:56:13,370
In much of our ritual practice we are taking

1106
00:56:13,544 --> 00:56:15,589
traditional symbols
of what we see

1107
00:56:15,763 --> 00:56:17,983
as an oppressive
religious institution

1108
00:56:18,157 --> 00:56:21,378
and destroying those symbols
as a form of empowerment.

1109
00:56:23,902 --> 00:56:25,382
We often use nudity

1110
00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:28,080
because there is a sense
of shame surrounding nudity

1111
00:56:28,254 --> 00:56:30,125
that still exists
and is pervasive today.

1112
00:56:31,649 --> 00:56:33,912
If I can,
I like to use bodies of men.
1113
00:56:34,129 --> 00:56:35,609
I'm very interested
in staying away

1114
00:56:36,001 --> 00:56:38,121
from the fetishization of
the beautiful female body.

1115
00:56:39,787 --> 00:56:42,007
We have used wine
in the past,

1116
00:56:42,181 --> 00:56:44,009
the idea of kind of,
like, choking on wine...

1117
00:56:44,836 --> 00:56:47,621
because the Church uses wine
as a metaphor for,

1118
00:56:47,795 --> 00:56:49,144
you know,
the blood of Christ,

1119
00:56:49,667 --> 00:56:52,191
but we see it as a form
of oppression and control.

1120
00:56:59,024 --> 00:57:01,635
Hail Mary, full of grace.
The lord is with thee.

1121
00:57:02,027 --> 00:57:04,769
Blessed art thou among women.

1122
00:57:06,814 --> 00:57:09,556
Holy Mary, mother of God,
pray for us sinners...

1123
00:57:13,865 --> 00:57:15,843
If there's anything
that anti-choice protesters
1124
00:57:15,867 --> 00:57:17,782
have been good at,
it's the spectacle.

1125
00:57:18,347 --> 00:57:21,525
We wanted to create a context
where we can start to understand

1126
00:57:21,699 --> 00:57:23,503
that people who are protesting
outside of clinics

1127
00:57:23,527 --> 00:57:25,659
are doing something
that's somewhat perverse

1128
00:57:25,833 --> 00:57:26,833
and disturbing.

1129
00:57:27,487 --> 00:57:28,986
So anyways, that was where
our starting point was,

1130
00:57:29,010 --> 00:57:30,650
"How do we do this?
How do we match them?"

1131
00:57:30,751 --> 00:57:33,885
And then it was a lot
of brainstorming and spitballing

1132
00:57:34,059 --> 00:57:35,843
and conversation
until somebody made a joke

1133
00:57:36,017 --> 00:57:37,932
about how they fetishize
the fetus,

1134
00:57:38,106 --> 00:57:39,630
how it becomes this kind
of object
1135
00:57:39,847 --> 00:57:43,285
that is revered in a way
that seems somewhat unnatural,

1136
00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:44,504
and, um,

1137
00:57:44,983 --> 00:57:47,899
you know, we landed
on fetish babies,

1138
00:57:48,073 --> 00:57:49,378
adult babies.

1139
00:58:12,010 --> 00:58:13,010
Uh, we're talking

1140
00:58:13,533 --> 00:58:14,902
about the abstraction
and fetishization

1141
00:58:14,926 --> 00:58:16,667
of the fetal image
as one that speaks

1142
00:58:16,841 --> 00:58:19,496
and diminishes
women's power and voice.

1143
00:58:21,323 --> 00:58:22,823
A lot of people
look at performance art

1144
00:58:22,847 --> 00:58:24,936
and are a little bit confused by it,

1145
00:58:25,414 --> 00:58:27,286
but that's exactly how we feel

1146
00:58:27,460 --> 00:58:29,220
when we see these people
in front of clinics.

1147
00:58:29,288 --> 00:58:30,507
Pray for us.

1148
00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:41,605
What the heck just happened?
Why are they doing this?

1149
00:58:41,779 --> 00:58:43,302
- I have no idea.
- All right.

1150
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,367
They're worshiping...
they're worshiping Lucifer.

1151
00:58:45,391 --> 00:58:46,831
I mean, they're...
they're Satanists.

1152
00:58:49,874 --> 00:58:51,765
I don't know much
about Satanism. What is it?

1153
00:58:51,789 --> 00:58:53,181
Is it the worship of Satan?

1154
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,793
No, we're actually non-theistic,

1155
00:58:55,967 --> 00:58:57,838
and modern Satanism
has been recognized

1156
00:58:58,012 --> 00:58:59,840
as non-theistic
for some time now.

1157
00:59:00,624 --> 00:59:03,844
So the word Satanist has
nothing to do with Satan.
1158
00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:06,586
Like,
if somebody wants to worship

1159
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,327
a pickle jar full of sand...

1160
00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:10,697
- What did you say?
- A pickle jar...

1161
00:59:10,721 --> 00:59:12,394
- A pickle jar full of sand?
- That's what it sounds like.

1162
00:59:12,418 --> 00:59:14,058
That's exactly what
it sounds like.

1163
00:59:14,115 --> 00:59:16,770
If you don't believe
in the Devil, why call yourself

1164
00:59:16,944 --> 00:59:18,816
- a Satanist?
- It's called Satanism

1165
00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:20,228
'cause there's nothing else
to call it.

1166
00:59:20,252 --> 00:59:21,558
This wasn't pulled out of a hat.

1167
00:59:21,732 --> 00:59:23,951
This wasn't something
that was made up

1168
00:59:24,125 --> 00:59:25,165
just to screw with people.

1169
00:59:25,518 --> 00:59:27,215
This is a sociopolitical
counter-myth.

1170
00:59:27,433 --> 00:59:28,758
The reason I'm pressing you
on this

1171
00:59:28,782 --> 00:59:30,392
is... is because I sort of know

1172
00:59:30,567 --> 00:59:32,264
a fake media story
when I see one,

1173
00:59:32,438 --> 00:59:35,484
and the whole Satanism thing
seems like that.

1174
00:59:37,835 --> 00:59:40,272
Who calls me
from out of the pit?

1175
00:59:40,446 --> 00:59:42,666
The most important thing
about modern Satanism,

1176
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,450
in my opinion,
is that it has

1177
00:59:44,624 --> 00:59:46,713
a lot of symbolic impact
on a global level.

1178
00:59:46,887 --> 00:59:49,368
- Hail Satan!
- Hail Satan.

1179
00:59:49,934 --> 00:59:51,544
No!

1180
00:59:51,718 --> 00:59:53,198
I mean, everybody knows Satan.
1181
00:59:53,459 --> 00:59:56,462
He's as famous as Santa Claus
or the Grey aliens.

1182
00:59:56,636 --> 01:00:01,423
I am a part of you all.

1183
01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:03,687
In the literary concept
John Milton wrote

1184
01:00:03,861 --> 01:00:05,732
that Satan
was derived from heaven.

1185
01:00:05,906 --> 01:00:09,344
He was ousted for not stepping in line,
like the rest of us,

1186
01:00:09,518 --> 01:00:10,607
and now we fight back.

1187
01:00:13,827 --> 01:00:16,395
You're not wanted here.
You're not wanted here.

1188
01:00:16,569 --> 01:00:18,092
Out. Get out, Devils.

1189
01:00:18,571 --> 01:00:20,549
When I tell people that
I don't actually believe

1190
01:00:20,573 --> 01:00:21,574
in a literal Satan,

1191
01:00:22,053 --> 01:00:23,881
they're almost disappointed
and upset.

1192
01:00:24,185 --> 01:00:25,185
They don't like the idea

1193
01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:28,363
that we've taken
a religion's villain

1194
01:00:28,537 --> 01:00:31,889
and made him sort of
our champion for rebellion.

1195
01:00:33,151 --> 01:00:35,066
What it's preaching is evil.

1196
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,024
It's preaching
against Christianity.

1197
01:00:37,198 --> 01:00:38,373
It's anti-Christian.

1198
01:00:38,722 --> 01:00:39,897
To say that a Satanist

1199
01:00:40,288 --> 01:00:43,683
is anti-Christian is, again,
a half-truth.

1200
01:00:43,857 --> 01:00:45,903
They are anti-Christian
in the sense that

1201
01:00:46,251 --> 01:00:48,340
they are post-Christian.
They are...

1202
01:00:48,514 --> 01:00:50,647
They've actually left
Christianity.

1203
01:00:50,908 --> 01:00:52,387
They are
taking Satan with them.
1204
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,825
I like the story of,
like, Abraham,

1205
01:00:54,999 --> 01:00:56,914
who's gonna kill his son,
and Satan comes over.

1206
01:00:57,088 --> 01:00:59,133
He's like,
"Hey, don't do this."

1207
01:01:00,961 --> 01:01:02,330
And on one side
it's... Everyone goes,

1208
01:01:02,354 --> 01:01:04,008
"Well, that's him
tempting Abraham,"

1209
01:01:04,182 --> 01:01:06,302
and you go... On the other side,
it's him going, like,

1210
01:01:06,358 --> 01:01:08,099
"Hey, asshole,
don't kill your kid."

1211
01:01:08,534 --> 01:01:10,686
Satan didn't sit on his ass
and just watch that happen.

1212
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:11,972
He got up and did something.

1213
01:01:13,713 --> 01:01:16,455
Jesus walked into the desert
with no food, right?

1214
01:01:16,629 --> 01:01:18,762
Satan comes to him,
and he tempts him
1215
01:01:18,936 --> 01:01:21,982
with water and food.
He's starving in the desert.

1216
01:01:22,809 --> 01:01:24,376
Like,
"Hey, dude, don't do this.

1217
01:01:24,550 --> 01:01:26,073
Have some water.
Like, you're fine."

1218
01:01:26,247 --> 01:01:28,162
Shouldn't they just
call themselves atheists

1219
01:01:28,336 --> 01:01:30,556
if they don't believe
in anything supernatural,

1220
01:01:30,730 --> 01:01:32,036
a supernatural being?

1221
01:01:32,471 --> 01:01:35,779
Being an atheist is boring.
There's no community.

1222
01:01:36,301 --> 01:01:37,981
There's no iconography.
There's no history.

1223
01:01:38,129 --> 01:01:40,261
There's no code of conduct
or ethics.

1224
01:01:40,435 --> 01:01:41,435
There's no tenets.

1225
01:01:41,828 --> 01:01:43,917
It's just defining
what you're not.

1226
01:01:44,439 --> 01:01:48,487
And with modern Satanism,
you can define what you are.

1227
01:01:49,401 --> 01:01:51,446
I mean, we've defined Satanism

1228
01:01:51,620 --> 01:01:55,537
for the Satanic Temple
with our Seven Tenets.

1229
01:02:03,502 --> 01:02:05,504
One should strive
to act with compassion

1230
01:02:05,678 --> 01:02:07,288
and empathy
towards all creatures

1231
01:02:07,462 --> 01:02:08,768
in accordance with reason.

1232
01:02:12,946 --> 01:02:13,946
The struggle for justice

1233
01:02:14,382 --> 01:02:15,862
is an ongoing
and necessary pursuit

1234
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,735
that should prevail
over laws and institutions.

1235
01:02:21,650 --> 01:02:25,437
One's body is inviolable,
subject to one's own will alone.

1236
01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:30,659
The freedom of others
should be respected,

1237
01:02:30,834 --> 01:02:33,184
including the freedom
to offend.

1238
01:02:34,141 --> 01:02:36,230
To willfully
and unjustly encroach

1239
01:02:36,404 --> 01:02:39,930
upon the freedoms of another
is to forgo your own.

1240
01:02:43,629 --> 01:02:44,869
This is my favorite one.

1241
01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:46,850
Beliefs should conform

1242
01:02:47,502 --> 01:02:49,462
to our best scientific
understanding of the world.

1243
01:02:50,288 --> 01:02:51,376
We should take care

1244
01:02:51,811 --> 01:02:54,074
never to distort
scientific facts

1245
01:02:54,292 --> 01:02:55,641
to fit our beliefs.

1246
01:02:58,731 --> 01:03:00,951
People are fallible.
If we make a mistake,

1247
01:03:01,125 --> 01:03:02,779
we should do our best
to rectify it

1248
01:03:02,953 --> 01:03:05,999
and resolve any harm
that may have been caused.

1249
01:03:10,438 --> 01:03:12,136
Every tenet
is a guiding principle

1250
01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:15,139
designed to inspire nobility
in action and thought.

1251
01:03:16,401 --> 01:03:18,272
The spirit of compassion,
wisdom,

1252
01:03:18,446 --> 01:03:20,013
and justice
should always prevail

1253
01:03:20,187 --> 01:03:21,841
over the written
or spoken word.

1254
01:03:22,059 --> 01:03:25,932
- Hail Satan!
- Hail Satan!

1255
01:03:26,106 --> 01:03:27,194
I am very surprised

1256
01:03:27,673 --> 01:03:29,544
to find myself
part of an actual religion.

1257
01:03:31,372 --> 01:03:33,157
I wholeheartedly

1258
01:03:33,331 --> 01:03:35,507
agree with the Seven Tenets
of the Satanic Temple.

1259
01:03:35,681 --> 01:03:38,118
I believe they far outweigh
the Ten Commandments

1260
01:03:38,292 --> 01:03:40,729
in terms of morality

1261
01:03:40,904 --> 01:03:44,821
and, uh, best-case practices
to live your life,

1262
01:03:45,604 --> 01:03:47,214
and why can't that be
a religion?

1263
01:03:47,388 --> 01:03:49,782
Why can't me following
a code of ethics,

1264
01:03:50,565 --> 01:03:52,524
having fellowship
with brethren,

1265
01:03:52,959 --> 01:03:54,613
why... why can't that be
a religion?

1266
01:04:01,185 --> 01:04:02,505
- I'm recording.
- All right.

1267
01:04:03,013 --> 01:04:06,407
Well, I want to thank you
for tuning in to get an update

1268
01:04:06,581 --> 01:04:08,627
on the Arkansas
Ten Commandments monument.

1269
01:04:09,846 --> 01:04:11,086
In Little Rock,

1270
01:04:11,586 --> 01:04:13,129
while the Ten Commandments
continue to be watered

1271
01:04:13,153 --> 01:04:14,198
throughout the morning,
1272
01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:16,765
they stand tall
in their new home.

1273
01:04:17,201 --> 01:04:19,681
Take a look. This is exactly
where it sits right now.

1274
01:04:19,856 --> 01:04:21,335
It was installed
on the back side

1275
01:04:21,509 --> 01:04:22,989
of the Capitol Building
this morning.

1276
01:04:23,163 --> 01:04:25,209
And I want to say thank you
to everyone

1277
01:04:25,557 --> 01:04:27,951
who has contributed
to erect this monument.

1278
01:04:28,995 --> 01:04:30,955
This is absolutely
a declaration of faith,

1279
01:04:31,128 --> 01:04:34,131
and this monument will
almost certainly come down.

1280
01:04:36,307 --> 01:04:40,180
When our first Ten Commandments
came up, she had a short life.

1281
01:04:43,053 --> 01:04:46,578
She lasted about 24 hours
before a fervent believer

1282
01:04:46,752 --> 01:04:48,275
in the separation
of church and state

1283
01:04:48,449 --> 01:04:49,929
took her down with his car.

1284
01:04:50,843 --> 01:04:51,931
Freedom!

1285
01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:58,720
I wake up, and I'm like,
"Oh, my God."

1286
01:04:58,895 --> 01:05:02,072
Get this. Police say around 4:45
in the morning local time

1287
01:05:02,246 --> 01:05:03,987
a 32-year-old man

1288
01:05:04,335 --> 01:05:07,338
rammed his vehicle
straight into that monument.

1289
01:05:08,513 --> 01:05:11,081
This man drove his vehicle
into the statue,

1290
01:05:11,255 --> 01:05:14,736
streamed it all on Facebook.
He's now facing charges.

1291
01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:16,311
I felt a huge pressure
come over me,

1292
01:05:16,434 --> 01:05:18,479
and I heard inside,
"Destroy it tonight."

1293
01:05:18,653 --> 01:05:20,153
He says
he's a Christian
1294
01:05:20,177 --> 01:05:21,457
who supports
the Ten Commandments

1295
01:05:22,135 --> 01:05:24,790
but not when they're replicated
on State Capitol grounds.

1296
01:05:26,661 --> 01:05:28,335
This was not a good thing
in my eyes

1297
01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:30,230
or in the Satanic Temple's eyes

1298
01:05:30,404 --> 01:05:32,537
because we wanted this
to come down the correct way

1299
01:05:32,711 --> 01:05:33,930
and not this way,

1300
01:05:34,495 --> 01:05:36,695
and of course, this did nothing
but help Rapert's cause.

1301
01:05:38,412 --> 01:05:41,850
We have to take a stand
for civility in this country.

1302
01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:45,245
All of this radical talk
from the Satanic Temple

1303
01:05:45,593 --> 01:05:47,595
that would cause
unstable people to get out

1304
01:05:47,769 --> 01:05:51,034
and carry out these acts.
What culpability do they have?

1305
01:05:52,296 --> 01:05:53,514
Journalist:

1306
01:06:00,782 --> 01:06:02,306
I don't even know
how to quite respond

1307
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,524
to that question.

1308
01:06:04,177 --> 01:06:05,633
You see, you got to understand
the kind of people

1309
01:06:05,657 --> 01:06:06,788
you're dealing with here.

1310
01:06:07,485 --> 01:06:10,009
The man that claims to be
the head of the Satanic Temple,

1311
01:06:10,923 --> 01:06:14,231
this guy runs around the country
using the name Lucien Greaves.

1312
01:06:14,709 --> 01:06:17,277
It's not even his real name.

1313
01:06:17,495 --> 01:06:21,412
Fake names, fake arguments,
coming into Arkansas

1314
01:06:21,586 --> 01:06:23,370
to take advantage
of gullible people.

1315
01:06:23,631 --> 01:06:25,242
The leader of the
Satanic Temple,

1316
01:06:25,416 --> 01:06:27,287
he's using a fake name.
1317
01:06:27,461 --> 01:06:29,507
His name
is actually Doug Mesner.

1318
01:06:31,117 --> 01:06:32,901
My name
isn't Douglas Mesner either.

1319
01:06:33,424 --> 01:06:35,295
I have
double-layered pseudonyms.

1320
01:06:38,777 --> 01:06:41,171
The Ten Commandments
monument will be back up.

1321
01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:43,608
The law will be fulfilled.

1322
01:06:53,487 --> 01:06:55,465
There are a lot of
Ten Commandments monuments

1323
01:06:55,489 --> 01:06:56,925
of the same exact sort

1324
01:06:57,187 --> 01:07:00,016
in many places
all over the United States

1325
01:07:00,190 --> 01:07:01,670
which were put up
around the same time

1326
01:07:01,713 --> 01:07:02,975
because they were distributed

1327
01:07:03,149 --> 01:07:04,977
by Paramount Pictures
in connection

1328
01:07:05,151 --> 01:07:06,544
with "The Ten Commandments"
movie.

1329
01:07:06,718 --> 01:07:08,720
Wait, what?
Paramount Pictures?

1330
01:07:08,894 --> 01:07:11,201
Yeah, the story
is that Cecil B. DeMille

1331
01:07:11,375 --> 01:07:13,377
was involved in making
these Ten Commandments

1332
01:07:13,551 --> 01:07:17,468
in connection with the film
and then donating them

1333
01:07:17,642 --> 01:07:19,296
to governments
around the country,

1334
01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:20,819
and that's the story.

1335
01:07:20,993 --> 01:07:22,255
To promote a movie?

1336
01:07:22,516 --> 01:07:24,196
It's connected to the promotion
of a movie.

1337
01:07:24,257 --> 01:07:26,433
That's crazy.

1338
01:07:27,913 --> 01:07:29,353
The Ten Commandments
monuments

1339
01:07:29,567 --> 01:07:31,569
are designed to look
like the stone tablets
1340
01:07:31,743 --> 01:07:33,503
that are carried down
by Heston in the movie.

1341
01:07:34,572 --> 01:07:35,572
The stars from the film,

1342
01:07:36,313 --> 01:07:37,681
they're spreading them
all across the country,

1343
01:07:37,705 --> 01:07:39,403
and it becomes
much more present

1344
01:07:39,577 --> 01:07:40,926
in the everyday life
of Americans

1345
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:42,449
where it hadn't been before.

1346
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,626
The Ten Commandments
need no interpretation.

1347
01:07:45,844 --> 01:07:50,849
Like all good law...
they are simple and basic

1348
01:07:51,502 --> 01:07:52,502
and immutable.

1349
01:08:02,339 --> 01:08:03,688
Donations are pouring in

1350
01:08:03,905 --> 01:08:05,733
to replace the
Ten Commandments monument,

1351
01:08:06,125 --> 01:08:09,085
including the maker of a film
made at the State Capitol.

1352
01:08:09,346 --> 01:08:11,435
The people behind
"God's Not Dead"

1353
01:08:11,609 --> 01:08:14,090
pledged to donate
25,000 dollars

1354
01:08:14,394 --> 01:08:15,961
to rebuild the monument.

1355
01:08:18,268 --> 01:08:22,010
Pure Flix is a Christian
film production company...

1356
01:08:22,881 --> 01:08:25,579
that made the flick
"God's Not Dead 2"

1357
01:08:25,753 --> 01:08:27,190
here at our State Capitol.

1358
01:08:27,799 --> 01:08:29,844
People seem to forget

1359
01:08:30,018 --> 01:08:32,238
that the most basic
human right of all

1360
01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,284
is the right to know Jesus.

1361
01:08:35,328 --> 01:08:37,113
Melissa Joan Hart was here.

1362
01:08:37,330 --> 01:08:40,377
I'm not gonna be afraid
to say the name Jesus.

1363
01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:45,164
This was a "real movie" here
in Little Rock, Arkansas...

1364
01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:49,362
...and so the conservative
Christian base in this town,

1365
01:08:49,386 --> 01:08:51,779
it was all about the fact
that they were helping

1366
01:08:51,953 --> 01:08:55,087
Senator Rapert
and his godly mission.

1367
01:08:55,696 --> 01:08:56,784
Most of our viewers

1368
01:08:57,089 --> 01:08:58,830
are born-again believers
or Christians,

1369
01:08:59,004 --> 01:09:02,399
and they applaud
the Ten Commandments monument

1370
01:09:02,573 --> 01:09:03,573
on the State Capitol.

1371
01:09:04,052 --> 01:09:06,664
It's a...
it's never happened before.

1372
01:09:06,838 --> 01:09:10,450
The... the church in America
has been silent for too long.

1373
01:09:10,624 --> 01:09:13,236
The Satanic Temple,
as much as they posture

1374
01:09:13,410 --> 01:09:15,847
and much as they holler
at the State of Arkansas,

1375
01:09:16,108 --> 01:09:18,632
they cannot force
a monument of Baphomet

1376
01:09:18,806 --> 01:09:20,156
on our Capitol grounds.

1377
01:09:22,462 --> 01:09:23,855
Nothing would make me happier

1378
01:09:24,029 --> 01:09:26,553
than to see Baphomet
on our Capitol grounds.

1379
01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:35,954
I would love to see Baphomet.

1380
01:09:37,651 --> 01:09:40,176
I would love to see
the Hindus, the Buddhists,

1381
01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:42,656
everyone have their fair piece
of the lawn out there,

1382
01:09:42,830 --> 01:09:44,180
their piece of the grass.

1383
01:09:48,140 --> 01:09:51,012
When I look at Baphomet,
I see the voice of the marginalized,

1384
01:09:51,230 --> 01:09:54,190
the voices of the hated,
the voice of the misunderstood,

1385
01:09:55,191 --> 01:09:59,107
the voice of the folks
who don't agree mindlessly
1386
01:09:59,282 --> 01:10:01,284
with what the majority
is telling them.

1387
01:10:02,372 --> 01:10:03,764
You know,
I'm an ordained minister

1388
01:10:03,938 --> 01:10:05,462
before I got
into politics as well,

1389
01:10:05,636 --> 01:10:08,726
and I want to say on this,
what this nation needs

1390
01:10:08,900 --> 01:10:11,250
is an overflowing
of the anointing of God.

1391
01:10:11,424 --> 01:10:13,121
We will not live
by your commandments.

1392
01:10:13,296 --> 01:10:14,732
We're free!

1393
01:10:14,906 --> 01:10:18,039
Those who will not live
by the law...

1394
01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:22,653
...shall die by the law!

1395
01:10:29,964 --> 01:10:31,662
I think
we can all come together

1396
01:10:31,836 --> 01:10:35,231
and have a reconciliation
and all coexist.

1397
01:10:39,147 --> 01:10:41,628
I would love
to see the Baphomet

1398
01:10:41,802 --> 01:10:43,717
standing next to a
Ten Commandments monument

1399
01:10:43,891 --> 01:10:46,459
to represent
religious pluralism,

1400
01:10:46,764 --> 01:10:50,550
one of the greatest features
of the American experiment.

1401
01:10:52,248 --> 01:10:53,814
It's... It's...

1402
01:10:54,032 --> 01:10:56,077
I... It's probably
never gonna happen.

1403
01:11:04,477 --> 01:11:08,394
I actually chose a couple spots
I thought would be nice for it,

1404
01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:10,614
and they said,
"Well, how about this spot?"

1405
01:11:10,788 --> 01:11:12,572
they...
they kind of wanted me to take.

1406
01:11:13,181 --> 01:11:15,575
- So is that something...
- Most easily run into

1407
01:11:15,749 --> 01:11:18,186
by a truck from the road.

1408
01:11:28,588 --> 01:11:30,388
We're trying to do this
within the system

1409
01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:32,394
because that's the best way
to challenge the system

1410
01:11:32,418 --> 01:11:34,638
is to kind of use their laws

1411
01:11:34,812 --> 01:11:36,814
and the system
they've created against them.

1412
01:11:38,424 --> 01:11:40,644
Satanists sue Missouri.

1413
01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:42,820
Abortion rights
were the focus today

1414
01:11:42,994 --> 01:11:44,300
in the Missouri Supreme Court.

1415
01:11:44,474 --> 01:11:46,302
Current Missouri law
requires a woman

1416
01:11:46,476 --> 01:11:49,087
be given an informational
booklet on abortion.

1417
01:11:49,261 --> 01:11:52,656
Paperwork that said,
"Life starts at conception."

1418
01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:54,614
Mary Doe is suing
Missouri Governor,

1419
01:11:54,788 --> 01:11:56,050
Eric Greitens.
1420
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:59,184
I think that if we're being sued
by the Satanic Temple,

1421
01:11:59,619 --> 01:12:01,186
we got to be doing
something right.

1422
01:12:01,534 --> 01:12:03,815
We're doing something right
here in the State of Missouri.

1423
01:12:05,103 --> 01:12:07,323
Thank you. Thank you.

1424
01:12:07,497 --> 01:12:09,107
This lawsuit
by the Satanic Temple

1425
01:12:09,368 --> 01:12:13,633
on behalf of one of its members
is like the Hobby Lobby case.

1426
01:12:14,286 --> 01:12:16,606
The evangelical Christian owners
of Hobby Lobby

1427
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,073
craft stores
challenged Obamacare

1428
01:12:19,247 --> 01:12:20,988
that requires
for-profit companies

1429
01:12:21,162 --> 01:12:23,513
to provide comprehensive
birth control coverage,

1430
01:12:23,687 --> 01:12:26,385
saying it violated
their religious beliefs.
1431
01:12:26,994 --> 01:12:28,842
Given the court's ruling
in favor of Hobby Lobby,

1432
01:12:28,866 --> 01:12:30,520
the Satanic Temple
has some sincerely-held

1433
01:12:30,694 --> 01:12:32,260
religious beliefs of its own.

1434
01:12:32,696 --> 01:12:35,022
The Satanists believe that, quote,
"The body is inviolable

1435
01:12:35,046 --> 01:12:37,048
subject to one's
own will alone."

1436
01:12:37,309 --> 01:12:39,109
And they say they strive
to make all decisions

1437
01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:40,420
regarding personal health based

1438
01:12:41,008 --> 01:12:42,725
on the best scientific
understanding of the world.

1439
01:12:42,749 --> 01:12:44,466
It's brilliant, right?
Because one of the things

1440
01:12:44,490 --> 01:12:46,840
the Supreme Court said
in its Hobby Lobby decision

1441
01:12:47,014 --> 01:12:49,887
is we can't question
people's religious beliefs.

1442
01:12:50,061 --> 01:12:52,106
If they say it violates
their religious beliefs,

1443
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,196
so be it. She should be exempted
from that law.

1444
01:12:55,588 --> 01:12:57,468
We're ready to proceed
on the first case.

1445
01:12:58,983 --> 01:13:00,352
- Good morning.
- Morning.

1446
01:13:00,376 --> 01:13:01,616
May it please the court,

1447
01:13:02,290 --> 01:13:05,990
it's appalling that the state
of Missouri legislates into law

1448
01:13:06,512 --> 01:13:09,428
that a human life
comes into existence

1449
01:13:09,907 --> 01:13:11,909
at conception. And if you...

1450
01:13:12,083 --> 01:13:14,564
What creates the presumption
that the statute

1451
01:13:14,738 --> 01:13:16,653
that says
life begins at conception

1452
01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:19,743
is solely based
on a religious tenet?

1453
01:13:20,221 --> 01:13:23,268
There is no scientific basis
for it.

1454
01:13:23,877 --> 01:13:26,358
It's just a proposition.

1455
01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:29,492
It's like saying,
"Jesus rose from the dead."

1456
01:13:29,709 --> 01:13:33,234
You can believe that,
but you'd be appalled

1457
01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:37,500
if the Missouri legislature
legislated that into law.

1458
01:13:43,157 --> 01:13:45,769
The thing is I know we...
if we talk with our lawyer,

1459
01:13:45,943 --> 01:13:47,423
he's gonna say, like,
"No,

1460
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,338
people just don't understand
what this really means."

1461
01:13:51,688 --> 01:13:53,864
Lawsuits move so slow.

1462
01:13:54,908 --> 01:13:56,780
I mean, nothing's been resolved,
you know?

1463
01:13:56,954 --> 01:13:57,998
Nothing's happened,

1464
01:13:58,912 --> 01:14:02,263
and it's... it's... And yet
it's a pi... It's a massive...
1465
01:14:02,612 --> 01:14:04,004
it's a massive legal bill...

1466
01:14:05,092 --> 01:14:07,921
and there's really nothing
so far to show for it.

1467
01:14:12,099 --> 01:14:16,408
We're paying for it through...
just the regular donations

1468
01:14:16,582 --> 01:14:20,151
we receive and proceeds
from merchandise sales.

1469
01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:22,849
It broke the
100,000 dollar mark

1470
01:14:23,023 --> 01:14:24,155
some time ago,

1471
01:14:24,677 --> 01:14:26,940
and I'm not sure how far
it's exceeded that by now.

1472
01:14:27,114 --> 01:14:30,117
I mean... it just hurts
my feelings to look at it.

1473
01:14:42,869 --> 01:14:44,958
There's no doubt that
this is my life's work...

1474
01:14:47,308 --> 01:14:49,572
and I don't want
the Satanic Temple

1475
01:14:49,746 --> 01:14:51,225
to be known for me,

1476
01:14:51,661 --> 01:14:54,707
but the success or failure
of the Satanic Temple

1477
01:14:54,881 --> 01:14:57,318
has always been,
uh, you know,

1478
01:14:57,493 --> 01:14:59,625
either my vindication
or failure.

1479
01:15:15,859 --> 01:15:17,861
As the
Satanic Temple developed,

1480
01:15:18,035 --> 01:15:19,906
we would hear less and less
from Jex.

1481
01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,870
And Detroit became
a bit of a mystery even to us,

1482
01:15:27,044 --> 01:15:30,177
um, in terms of what was
going on with the chapter...

1483
01:15:32,005 --> 01:15:33,137
which was under her control.

1484
01:15:34,486 --> 01:15:37,750
After centuries of biblical
patriarchal dominance,

1485
01:15:37,924 --> 01:15:40,361
the annihilation of native
and diverse cultures,

1486
01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:42,755
the propagation of racism
and homophobia,

1487
01:15:42,929 --> 01:15:45,366
we owe our oppressors!

1488
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:50,284
We owe them hostility,
inextinguishable justice,

1489
01:15:50,458 --> 01:15:53,244
and uncompromising destruction.

1490
01:15:54,724 --> 01:15:56,116
We outnumber them.

1491
01:15:56,682 --> 01:15:59,163
We possess the fortitude
to bring down powerful men

1492
01:15:59,337 --> 01:16:01,208
and dismantle racist systems.

1493
01:16:01,426 --> 01:16:03,950
Their existence
is only made possible

1494
01:16:04,124 --> 01:16:05,735
by our own inaction.

1495
01:16:06,866 --> 01:16:10,391
They have given us just enough
to have something to lose.

1496
01:16:10,609 --> 01:16:13,743
They have built a system
that grinds us down,

1497
01:16:13,917 --> 01:16:16,006
and they tell us
to swallow our grief

1498
01:16:16,180 --> 01:16:18,748
and our rage in the name
of respectability,
1499
01:16:18,922 --> 01:16:21,794
that obedience is patriotism.

1500
01:16:23,579 --> 01:16:26,103
There is no model
for moving forward.

1501
01:16:26,277 --> 01:16:27,713
We are the model.

1502
01:16:28,235 --> 01:16:31,978
Who taught you how to protest?
Who taught you how to get mad?

1503
01:16:32,413 --> 01:16:34,328
Who taught you how to speak up?

1504
01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:39,856
'Cause we are going to disrupt,
distort, destroy,

1505
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,208
and reclaim, resist,
and rebuild!

1506
01:16:54,087 --> 01:16:56,524
- Hail Satan!
- Hail Satan!

1507
01:16:56,699 --> 01:16:59,179
- Hail Satan!
- Hail Satan!

1508
01:16:59,353 --> 01:17:02,095
- Hail Satan!
- Hail Satan!

1509
01:17:02,269 --> 01:17:09,102
Hail Satan!

1510
01:17:21,549 --> 01:17:24,901
How do I put this?
Hmm. Let me think.

1511
01:17:25,423 --> 01:17:29,122
She called for, um,
Donald Trump to be killed.

1512
01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:31,081
Um, that's obviously problematic

1513
01:17:31,385 --> 01:17:33,425
because we are a completely
nonviolent organization,

1514
01:17:33,518 --> 01:17:36,216
and that's completely
against our ethics.

1515
01:17:38,828 --> 01:17:41,308
It was glaringly obvious
that Jex,

1516
01:17:41,831 --> 01:17:43,659
being the wild card
that she is,

1517
01:17:43,833 --> 01:17:46,270
wasn't really gonna fit
in the organization anymore,

1518
01:17:46,923 --> 01:17:49,752
so Jex Blackmore is no longer
part of the Temple

1519
01:17:49,926 --> 01:17:50,926
at this point.

1520
01:17:54,626 --> 01:17:58,456
Um, I called her,
ultimately, but that was, uh,

1521
01:17:59,109 --> 01:18:01,720
that was a National Council
discussion. Uh...
1522
01:18:03,287 --> 01:18:05,028
she said what she said,

1523
01:18:05,245 --> 01:18:08,727
and we just couldn't have
a double standard for anybody.

1524
01:18:11,425 --> 01:18:13,340
I don't want to go off
on camera right here.

1525
01:18:13,514 --> 01:18:15,492
- I understand.
- About the injustice of that

1526
01:18:15,516 --> 01:18:18,476
in many different ways,
but yeah, it's been a lot.

1527
01:18:20,521 --> 01:18:23,481
I have to say
it does feel a little bit

1528
01:18:24,264 --> 01:18:26,919
satisfying to be...

1529
01:18:28,486 --> 01:18:30,009
you know,
fired from the Satanic Temple

1530
01:18:30,183 --> 01:18:31,358
for being too extreme.

1531
01:18:36,755 --> 01:18:38,714
There's a great fear
that we are going to do

1532
01:18:38,888 --> 01:18:40,280
something that is so offensive

1533
01:18:40,541 --> 01:18:42,718
that it's going to somehow
discredit our work.

1534
01:18:42,892 --> 01:18:44,763
I mean,
we're a Satanic organization.

1535
01:18:45,372 --> 01:18:49,942
There's, like, this...
this fear of our legal system

1536
01:18:50,116 --> 01:18:52,989
that is part of what
I'm fighting against,

1537
01:18:53,380 --> 01:18:55,100
and part of what I think
is important for us

1538
01:18:55,165 --> 01:18:56,514
to be liberated from.

1539
01:18:58,777 --> 01:18:59,822
I love Jex.

1540
01:19:00,431 --> 01:19:01,756
I worked with her
from the beginning,

1541
01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:03,608
and it's really quite sad,

1542
01:19:03,782 --> 01:19:08,526
but... you know, as we cohere
this organizational structure,

1543
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:13,400
we have to have a kind
of uniform set of rules.

1544
01:19:13,792 --> 01:19:17,274
We lose some things and we gain
some things from that, I guess.
1545
01:19:18,754 --> 01:19:20,146
One, two, three, four.

1546
01:19:28,938 --> 01:19:30,654
Like, the reality
is the Satanic Temple

1547
01:19:30,678 --> 01:19:32,898
has become formalized
in a way

1548
01:19:33,072 --> 01:19:35,248
that is a much more
traditional institution.

1549
01:19:37,381 --> 01:19:40,123
I fear that that special space

1550
01:19:40,297 --> 01:19:43,822
that was created for people... is gone.

1551
01:20:09,674 --> 01:20:11,284
Yeah, more or less.

1552
01:20:11,458 --> 01:20:13,417
I mean,
I assume they need to drill?

1553
01:20:13,591 --> 01:20:14,591
Yeah.

1554
01:20:19,684 --> 01:20:20,924
Hey, good morning, guys.

1555
01:20:21,251 --> 01:20:22,531
We are here
at the State Capitol.

1556
01:20:22,861 --> 01:20:24,602
In just a few hours
we are expected to see
1557
01:20:24,776 --> 01:20:26,778
the Ten Commandments
monument back up.

1558
01:20:37,615 --> 01:20:39,922
So Article Two, Section 24

1559
01:20:40,096 --> 01:20:41,662
of the Arkansas
State Constitution

1560
01:20:41,967 --> 01:20:45,405
says that there shall never be
any preference given by law

1561
01:20:45,579 --> 01:20:48,495
to an establishment
of religion, a denomination...

1562
01:20:48,669 --> 01:20:49,801
Your head's cut off.

1563
01:20:50,410 --> 01:20:51,498
- Okay.
- Yeah.

1564
01:20:52,543 --> 01:20:55,024
Anyways, the point is,
is when a senator tries

1565
01:20:55,198 --> 01:20:56,895
to take ownership
of your religion,

1566
01:20:57,069 --> 01:20:59,724
give it over to the government,
uh, that's a...

1567
01:21:01,247 --> 01:21:02,901
Any Christian
should be offended.
1568
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,128
Yeah, yeah.

1569
01:21:20,353 --> 01:21:22,573
- Hello?
- Hey, it's Stu.

1570
01:21:32,757 --> 01:21:33,757
I did. I saw it.

1571
01:21:33,932 --> 01:21:35,194
Wake up, America.

1572
01:21:35,455 --> 01:21:38,415
Wake up, church.
Wake up, Christians.

1573
01:21:39,546 --> 01:21:41,505
It's about time
in the United States of America,

1574
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:42,679
as a Christian nation,

1575
01:21:43,202 --> 01:21:44,527
we get back to upholding
what we believe in.

1576
01:21:44,551 --> 01:21:45,591
- Amen!
- Amen!

1577
01:21:45,988 --> 01:21:48,991
This is a Christian nation.

1578
01:21:50,253 --> 01:21:51,795
I can't see
how they could possibly

1579
01:21:51,819 --> 01:21:52,820
get around this stuff.
1580
01:21:53,865 --> 01:21:54,865
This is a violation,

1581
01:21:55,301 --> 01:21:56,781
and they just
completely ignored it.

1582
01:21:57,216 --> 01:22:00,176
You know, once the thing
is going, we'll file.

1583
01:22:00,872 --> 01:22:02,700
I...
I'm just really hard-pressed

1584
01:22:02,874 --> 01:22:05,529
to come up with a way in which
we could lose this case.

1585
01:22:14,277 --> 01:22:16,061
We want to put up monuments
in every state,

1586
01:22:16,235 --> 01:22:17,933
every county, every city
and every town

1587
01:22:18,107 --> 01:22:19,587
and every organization
that wants one,

1588
01:22:19,630 --> 01:22:20,805
we're gonna help you do that.

1589
01:22:24,896 --> 01:22:27,029
Why are there Ten
Commandments monuments bills

1590
01:22:27,203 --> 01:22:28,856
simultaneously
in multiple states?

1591
01:22:29,770 --> 01:22:31,772
Why are there abortion
restriction bills,

1592
01:22:31,947 --> 01:22:35,733
anti-LGBT bills simultaneously
across different states?

1593
01:22:36,081 --> 01:22:37,865
Clearly there
is a concerted effort,

1594
01:22:38,301 --> 01:22:39,621
and that
is not religious liberty.

1595
01:22:39,693 --> 01:22:40,956
That's Christian supremacy.

1596
01:22:41,130 --> 01:22:44,698
♪ I put a spell on you ♪

1597
01:22:45,134 --> 01:22:48,615
♪ Because you're mine ♪

1598
01:22:49,399 --> 01:22:52,793
♪ I can't stand
The things that you do ♪

1599
01:22:53,055 --> 01:22:57,450
♪ No, no, no
No, I ain't lyin' ♪

1600
01:22:58,234 --> 01:23:02,716
No, I don't care
If you don't want me... ♪

1601
01:23:04,544 --> 01:23:06,198
I mean,
we have to push this back

1602
01:23:06,372 --> 01:23:08,292
because what they're
looking for is, essentially,

1603
01:23:08,331 --> 01:23:10,681
some kind of Christian Sharia law,
their version of it...

1604
01:23:11,812 --> 01:23:15,555
where legislation
and their view of morals

1605
01:23:15,729 --> 01:23:17,166
is implemented by a church

1606
01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:18,689
that a lot of us
aren't a part of,

1607
01:23:19,168 --> 01:23:20,821
and we just
can't let that happen.

1608
01:23:26,088 --> 01:23:29,743
♪ I love you, I love you
Yah yah gow ♪

1609
01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:47,239
♪ I put a spell on you ♪

1610
01:23:47,413 --> 01:23:50,460
♪ Lord, lord, lord ♪

1611
01:23:50,721 --> 01:23:54,333
♪ 'Cause you're mine
Yeah ♪

1612
01:23:54,507 --> 01:23:56,988
♪ I can't stand the things
That you do ♪

1613
01:23:57,162 --> 01:24:00,948
♪ When you're foolin' around ♪

1614
01:24:01,688 --> 01:24:05,301
♪ I don't care
If you don't want me ♪

1615
01:24:05,475 --> 01:24:08,565
♪ 'Cause I'm yours
Yours, yours ♪

1616
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,004
♪ Anyhow, yeah ♪

1617
01:24:13,178 --> 01:24:17,226
♪ Yeah yeah yeah ♪

1618
01:24:23,928 --> 01:24:25,016
One, two, three.

1619
01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:54,413
The Satanic Temple
will hold a rally

1620
01:24:54,437 --> 01:24:55,655
at the Arkansas
State Capitol

1621
01:24:55,829 --> 01:24:57,701
Thursday, August 16th.

1622
01:24:58,571 --> 01:24:59,833
The centerpiece of the rally

1623
01:25:00,182 --> 01:25:02,619
will be a Satanic statue
of Baphomet.

1624
01:25:03,663 --> 01:25:05,685
The Satanic Temple
says the organization

1625
01:25:05,709 --> 01:25:07,319
is being discriminated against

1626
01:25:07,493 --> 01:25:09,191
because the state
will not install

1627
01:25:09,365 --> 01:25:12,107
a Satanic monument
on the Capitol grounds.

1628
01:25:22,726 --> 01:25:26,033
I'm Shiva. I'm the Director
of National Events for TST,

1629
01:25:26,208 --> 01:25:28,645
and I thought we could start
by going around the room.

1630
01:25:29,036 --> 01:25:30,396
I'm from right here
in Little Rock,

1631
01:25:30,429 --> 01:25:31,996
and I am tickled pink
that all of you

1632
01:25:32,170 --> 01:25:34,912
are here in our fair city.
Tomorrow's gonna be fun.

1633
01:25:35,695 --> 01:25:38,742
I'm from El Paso, Texas.
I'm with Frontera Satanica.

1634
01:25:39,046 --> 01:25:41,048
I'm one of the cofounders
of Satanic Arkansas,

1635
01:25:41,223 --> 01:25:43,877
and we are super stoked
that you guys are here.

1636
01:25:44,051 --> 01:25:46,315
I'm Lanzifer Longinus.

1637
01:25:46,489 --> 01:25:49,535
I'm... I'm head
of the San Marcos chapter.

1638
01:25:49,927 --> 01:25:51,767
I was the head
of the San Antonio chapter,

1639
01:25:51,929 --> 01:25:53,844
and, um, the Devil's work
is never done.

1640
01:25:54,105 --> 01:25:57,500
I'm Jeremy, Skullcrusher
if we're using pseudonyms.

1641
01:25:57,674 --> 01:25:59,502
And I am the Monster
from Atlanta.

1642
01:25:59,676 --> 01:26:01,591
And, uh,

1643
01:26:01,808 --> 01:26:03,245
I'm just here
to support something

1644
01:26:03,419 --> 01:26:04,681
that's very important to me.

1645
01:26:05,595 --> 01:26:06,995
Glad to be here.
Fuckin' hail Satan.

1646
01:26:23,265 --> 01:26:24,527
Are you excited?

1647
01:26:28,705 --> 01:26:29,706
No.

1648
01:26:43,241 --> 01:26:44,521
They're gonna have, I guess
1649
01:26:44,764 --> 01:26:47,289
a nine-foot-tall statue
of Satan.

1650
01:26:48,681 --> 01:26:52,294
Well, we came here today
in order to negate that.

1651
01:26:53,817 --> 01:26:54,817
Honk the horn.

1652
01:26:55,253 --> 01:26:57,777
God bless you.

1653
01:27:03,174 --> 01:27:04,567
Their platform
is separation

1654
01:27:04,741 --> 01:27:05,872
of church and state,

1655
01:27:06,308 --> 01:27:09,311
which makes it sound
really nice, so yeah.

1656
01:27:09,485 --> 01:27:12,270
They just want to irritate,
if you want to know the truth.

1657
01:27:18,668 --> 01:27:19,843
We're a Christian country,

1658
01:27:20,452 --> 01:27:22,628
and so they don't have
the right to alter that.

1659
01:27:23,107 --> 01:27:24,987
They don't have a right
to put their monstrosity

1660
01:27:25,065 --> 01:27:26,066
on the State Capitol.
1661
01:27:26,458 --> 01:27:28,025
But do we
really wanna believe

1662
01:27:28,286 --> 01:27:30,462
there's no consequence
but God?

1663
01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:33,683
There is this individual
that has,

1664
01:27:33,857 --> 01:27:35,772
like, a previous conviction
for planning,

1665
01:27:36,294 --> 01:27:38,035
- you know, mass shootings...
- Hmm.

1666
01:27:38,514 --> 01:27:40,864
...and our anonymous sources

1667
01:27:41,038 --> 01:27:42,624
have said that he will
definitely be there,

1668
01:27:42,648 --> 01:27:43,954
and that is a concern.

1669
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,920
And what happens
if you see somebody

1670
01:27:46,043 --> 01:27:47,740
that I don't see
pulling some shit?

1671
01:27:47,914 --> 01:27:49,568
So we've got
the outer team,
1672
01:27:49,742 --> 01:27:51,962
which I think at this point
is gonna be six people,

1673
01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:54,921
so they should see
something first.

1674
01:27:55,095 --> 01:27:58,011
Somebody's gonna have to really
get through two layers

1675
01:27:58,185 --> 01:28:01,188
of people to get to you.
That makes it very implausible.

1676
01:28:01,972 --> 01:28:04,148
Well, I don't think
anybody else around here

1677
01:28:04,322 --> 01:28:05,541
is really considered a target,

1678
01:28:05,976 --> 01:28:07,978
so I think that's really all
we're worried about.

1679
01:28:24,690 --> 01:28:27,214
This is the infancy
of the Satanic Temple.

1680
01:28:28,128 --> 01:28:31,175
In our own humble little way,
we are changing the world.

1681
01:28:33,308 --> 01:28:35,266
More and more as time goes on,

1682
01:28:36,006 --> 01:28:39,749
people are seeing that we are
a genuine movement.

1683
01:28:41,577 --> 01:28:43,883
This would be very difficult
to maintain

1684
01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:47,800
if somewhere
in any of our minds,

1685
01:28:47,974 --> 01:28:50,020
those of us who are actively
working on this,

1686
01:28:50,194 --> 01:28:51,500
we didn't truly believe

1687
01:28:51,848 --> 01:28:53,850
in every element
of what we're doing...

1688
01:28:55,112 --> 01:28:57,941
and to be doing this
as anything other

1689
01:28:58,637 --> 01:29:01,945
than an authentic expression
of who we are...

1690
01:29:02,859 --> 01:29:07,994
I just can't see doing that
without being psychotic,

1691
01:29:08,168 --> 01:29:12,347
which I guess...
is... is a theory.

1692
01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:19,354
It is out of not only Satanism
but patriotism

1693
01:29:20,180 --> 01:29:22,487
that I am motivated
to come to protest events,

1694
01:29:23,183 --> 01:29:25,838
to have the pilgrimage,
to visibly be a part

1695
01:29:26,012 --> 01:29:27,884
of a declaration
of those beliefs.

1696
01:29:29,799 --> 01:29:32,410
That's an ancient
human religious tradition.

1697
01:29:32,584 --> 01:29:33,803
I mean,
that's the pilgrimage.

1698
01:29:35,544 --> 01:29:37,304
I think it's a sense
of duty to do this.

1699
01:29:37,415 --> 01:29:39,809
I don't even feel like
it's optional at this point.

1700
01:29:40,897 --> 01:29:43,334
You know,
you see Christian theocracy

1701
01:29:43,508 --> 01:29:47,164
just, you know, creeping itself
into our government, you know,

1702
01:29:47,338 --> 01:29:51,037
and they're not gonna stop.
They're just gonna continue,

1703
01:29:51,429 --> 01:29:54,171
and it is our duty
as the adversary

1704
01:29:54,389 --> 01:29:55,651
to stand up to this.

1705
01:29:58,828 --> 01:30:00,438
I could just go along
and just be a quiet

1706
01:30:00,612 --> 01:30:03,267
little secular individual,
like a lot of people do.

1707
01:30:03,615 --> 01:30:05,158
I... I don't want to say
the phrase, like,

1708
01:30:05,182 --> 01:30:06,836
"this has given
my life purpose,"

1709
01:30:07,010 --> 01:30:09,752
but I would say
that this makes life fun.

1710
01:30:12,407 --> 01:30:16,715
Radical Satanism
has its claws...

1711
01:30:16,889 --> 01:30:18,529
...in the hearts of people
across America,

1712
01:30:18,630 --> 01:30:19,870
and I think that's... that's...

1713
01:30:19,979 --> 01:30:22,155
that's something
to pay attention to.

1714
01:30:43,873 --> 01:30:46,005
♪ Hallelujah ♪

1715
01:30:46,353 --> 01:30:48,355
♪ Hallelujah ♪

1716
01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:50,793
♪ Hallelujah, hallelujah ♪
1717
01:30:51,054 --> 01:30:53,622
♪ Hallelujah ♪

1718
01:30:54,013 --> 01:30:56,015
♪ Hallelujah... ♪

1719
01:30:56,407 --> 01:30:57,647
Good people of Arkansas

1720
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,497
and supporters
of religious liberty,

1721
01:31:00,063 --> 01:31:04,459
I present to you Baphomet.

1722
01:31:04,633 --> 01:31:07,897
Holy Mary, mother of God,
pray for us sinners,

1723
01:31:08,071 --> 01:31:10,552
now and in the hour
of our death, amen.

1724
01:31:10,726 --> 01:31:14,251
Holy Mary, mother of God,
pray for us sinners.

1725
01:31:15,905 --> 01:31:17,341
Baphomet
on the same grounds

1726
01:31:17,515 --> 01:31:18,515
as the Ten Commandments

1727
01:31:19,169 --> 01:31:21,650
does not represent the conflict
but a resolution.

1728
01:31:23,826 --> 01:31:26,437
If Christianity
abandons liberal democracy,

1729
01:31:26,611 --> 01:31:29,048
it will have forfeited
the future to Satan.

1730
01:31:30,093 --> 01:31:34,401
- To which I say, hail Satan.
- Hail Satan!

1731
01:31:54,639 --> 01:31:58,948
♪ Satan never sleeps ♪

1732
01:32:00,166 --> 01:32:02,429
♪ He walks behind you ♪

1733
01:32:02,604 --> 01:32:04,301
♪ Through the night ♪

1734
01:32:04,649 --> 01:32:11,569
♪ And through the day ♪

1735
01:32:12,614 --> 01:32:14,833
♪ Silently he creeps ♪

1736
01:32:16,835 --> 01:32:18,707
♪ He's always there ♪

1737
01:32:18,968 --> 01:32:21,274
♪ To put temptation ♪

1738
01:32:21,927 --> 01:32:24,582
♪ In your way ♪

1739
01:32:25,409 --> 01:32:26,453
♪ So ♪

1740
01:32:27,237 --> 01:32:29,239
♪♪ If you're ♪♪

1741
01:32:29,718 --> 01:32:31,894
♪ Burning with desire ♪

1742
01:32:33,722 --> 01:32:40,032
♪ He'll find
A way to fan the fire ♪

1743
01:32:42,252 --> 01:32:49,215
♪ Then in the embers
Of the flame ♪

1744
01:32:49,912 --> 01:32:56,788
♪ You'll have
Your foolish heart to blame ♪

1745
01:32:58,485 --> 01:33:01,488
♪ Oh, oh ♪

1746
01:33:02,577 --> 01:33:04,448
♪ Satan has a plan ♪

1747
01:33:07,190 --> 01:33:09,540
♪ He's out to capture you ♪

1748
01:33:10,019 --> 01:33:15,633
♪ In any way he can ♪

1749
01:33:18,723 --> 01:33:22,466
♪ Ever since the world began ♪

1750
01:33:24,207 --> 01:33:26,601
♪ He's tried to come between ♪

1751
01:33:27,166 --> 01:33:32,084
♪ A woman and a man ♪

1752
01:33:32,737 --> 01:33:37,176
♪ And so no matter ♪

1753
01:33:37,481 --> 01:33:39,701
♪ If you're great or small ♪

1754
01:33:40,136 --> 01:33:45,010
♪ He knows there's evil
In us all ♪

1755
01:33:45,358 --> 01:33:47,839
♪ And that is why ♪

1756
01:33:49,711 --> 01:33:53,236
♪ Satan never ♪

1757
01:33:53,410 --> 01:33:58,328
♪ Sleeps ♪

1758
01:34:01,331 --> 01:34:02,419
And I do want to clarify,

1759
01:34:02,941 --> 01:34:04,701
we actually had just somebody
two seconds ago

1760
01:34:04,769 --> 01:34:08,425
drive past asking us where
this Satanic Temple statue is.

1761
01:34:08,730 --> 01:34:10,993
Just to clarify, that was here
just for the rally

1762
01:34:11,167 --> 01:34:13,299
and was taken away
when that rally was over.

1763
01:34:13,473 --> 01:34:15,780
Now, currently
there is a lawsuit pending

1764
01:34:15,954 --> 01:34:17,303
in federal court,

1765
01:34:17,782 --> 01:34:20,263
the Satanic Temple claiming
religious discrimination,
1766
01:34:20,698 --> 01:34:21,873
while the state responding,

1767
01:34:22,134 --> 01:34:24,920
calling the Satanic Temple
a satire group.