Welcome to Our Lady of the Lake Catholic Church I'm father Dennis Willey um it was

a great crowd and we're pleased to see you all today I'm going to turn the mic over
to other foreign and he's going to introduce our speaker tonight whom you are
already know [Music] thank you Father the uh this of course man needs no

Introduction but I'll give him a small one anyway he was gained many years back for
the not that many years back but uh for the uh for Priestly fraternity of Saint
Peter and uh he was a pastor for a while he got his Doctorate in Rome in philosophy
he's a seminary Professor for a while out for 11 years out in the Lincoln diocese
and seven years at Our Lady Guadalupe Seminary which is a fraternity seminary

In Nebraska Superior now of the society the most sorrowful mother and this is a
group of priest Exorcist who are devoted entirely to the the ministry of exorcism
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with that enough of me let's get to him father why don't we start there we go why
don't we start with a prayer can you hear me all right or no okay let's see if we
can get this about now can you hear me okay okay

In the name of the fall of the Son and the Holy Spirit amen direct oh Lord all our
actions by thy holy Inspirations and carry them on by thy gracious assistance so
that every prayer and work of ours may begin from The End by the behavior to Christ
Our Lord amen virgin most powerful praise cross name of the father son the holy
spirit amen tonight the topic of the conference is basically going to be demonology
how demons function their psychology how

We're starting to see that in our current culture and how to combat it because this
is something that we're all dealing with on various levels uh everybody is uh and
um I don't think it takes too much for me just to say you just have to watch the
politicians for a little while and you know we're dealing with demons okay so the
first thing we want to do though is talk a little bit about the creation of

The angels and how their psychology became established so when God created the
hierarchy of angels He created the entire hierarchy of angels which is billions
upon billions of angels so if you think about it every single one of us and every
single human being that's ever existed had a guardian angel so just at the level of
Angel and that's only one part of that choir there's 20 billion angels I think just
in that choir

So and that doesn't include all the other angels that were created so that the
totality of all the the nine choirs were all created instantaneously at once the
Angels were then created when they were created their way of knowing or that's
called the mode of knowing how they understand things is fundamentally different
from us in fact it's the exact opposite so with us we come into contact with a
variety of different things we see a different number of different dogs

And then from that we're able to abstract the idea of what a dog is and then we can
make a judgment about dogs are forefooted Etc so for us in order to get a
conceptual knowledge of something we actually have to come into contact with things
for a little while so it takes us a while to actually come to understand certain
things where the Angels were different so when they were created Saint Thomas says
there it's called the three instances so

The first instance is when they were created God created them into a complete Act
of knowing now when we say complete it means complete and that they knew who God
was who they were what their nature was what their assigned task was what their
relationship was in relation to all the other Angels what would happen if they did
not accept their tasks what would happen if they were faithful that they would have
the beatific vision Saint Thomas also said they had the

Virtues of gifts or they had the infused virtues of faith hope and charity which
means they also had knowledge of the Incarnation and the and the Blessed Trinity so
they knew Christ was going to become God or they that I should say God was going to
become man so when that um this is one of the reasons why we see in scripture the
Angels were very often they're the demons they're at first they can't figure out if
this is the guy right so they're asking Christ they're

Testing them and they're trying to see what's going on and they're not really sure
if this is him but it's after he starts doing miracles on a regular basis that they
realize this is it it has to be him because it only God only man who become God
this could have could explain this kind of a thing right two one of the things that
they noticed is that this that Christ unlike even the prophets and um the givers of
the law

Christ had perfect coercive power over demons I'm going to circle around to that
back towards a little bit later and that meant that any time he just told them
you're out boom they were out so they knew when he gave a command that it was
actually coming from God the second person The Eternity and so they knew they had
to obey so this they this full and complete Act of knowledge meant then Saint
Thomas says they get this active knowledge and then he says

There's a concomitant Delight in the will so the first time they see the beauty of
God's plan instantaneously they fully comprehend it to the degree that they're
capable of he said there was delight and even demons when you have them in session
you can Hammer them and force them to think of that Delight of their first instance
and it causes them tremendous pain the second instance is then they made their
choice whether they're going to

Actually accept their assigned task or not and if they accepted their assigned task
then in the third instance Saint Thomas says then God there's no reason for delay
in reward or punishment so instantaneously they got to see the beatific Vision if
they were faithful to him now we're going to talk about a little bit what that fall
included whereas the demons when they rejected their assigned task that meant they
were immediately

Damned and so they had an immediate experience of God's judgment and the fact that
they had failed and that the media experienced the pain of loss which is what it's
like to be in hell there's actually 13 different forms of suffering that they that
they suffer that's one of them pain of conscience the fact that they they still
have natural law inclinations so God each Angel has its own natural law so we talk
about human beings having

A natural law so this we have a natural lab it's also to live to live and have a
life of reason so actually part of being a human being is to have an inclination
towards government not quite the size we have and not the way it's behaving but we
do actually have that we have an inclination to pursue the truth that God is to be
obeyed Etc so we have we haven't actually we have uh inclination of the natural law
the Angels also were given each Angel as

Its own species their personalities you see this when you're in session and
different demons are possessing and one will come to the surface and the other one
leaves for a while their personalities are far more distinct than human
personalities their characteristics are far more pronounced how they you can see
that um that their natural inclinations are referred to very definitive distinct
things because that's what God inclined

Them to so they're assigned task is part of their natural law they still have a
desire to fulfill that natural inclination it would be analogous to us because we
have when we get hungry we have a desire we have an inclination to eat but if but
if we had chosen no I'm never going to eat and we're starving it's kind of like I
I've made this decision I'm not I'm not going to eat but I'm starving that's
basically the way they are but they're suffering is

Far more intense because their natural inclinations are far clearer than ours
because they had an assigned task if they reject that task is who they are it's who
they are it's why God made them it determines their personality the Perfections
that they have of their personality all revolve around that assigned task so when
they reject the assigned task as the demons did it meant that it was a perfect ACT
of self-hatred

This is one of the reasons why they chose they literally chose to hate themselves
which is why when we see it starting to replicate in human beings that self-hatred
that self-loathing I tell people you have to stop it first of all it's against
charity but the second thing is is that that's the type of psychology that demons
try and replicate in us every single one of us if you have any spiritual defect
whatsoever which is all of you by the way

If you have any spiritual defect whatsoever that means there is some area in your
psychology that the demons have been spending your life trying to build a
psychological compatibility with they start tempting you to get you to do certain
things so you become easier to manipulate and this is one of the reasons why you
have to overcome any defects but self-loathing and self-hatred in that that desire
to hurt ourselves that all comes from that's

There that's their psychology they have a perfect self-hatred but the other part of
it is is their their test was this so when they were created they were they saw
themselves and who and what they are but they also I mentioned that they saw the
relationship with all the other angels and stuff and so they saw in the other
angels and saints that would eventually exist that there was this Perfection that
was above

Them that wasn't proper to their nature and so they could never have it because the
Angels can't change in their nature and so there was this um Perfection and so they
had to make a choice of sacrifice they had to be willing to sacrifice this good
that they were that they perceived and if they were willing to sacrifice that and
accept their assigned task then that meant that God would reward them with the
beatific Vision if they

Didn't and they chose no I still want that thing then if they did that then they
were damned now what that essentially means is two things literally demons chose a
figment of their imagination something they knew they would never have over the
beatific vision of God at one point I said to one demon I said that's irrational he
just looks at me says yeah that gives you an indicator of it but it

Also meant that they still want that thing and that's what part of what drives
their psychology but it also meant that they failed God and so they have their
sense of failure you see this among certain human beings you just have something
like you got to stop that too right but they also that thing that they wanted and
the sin and the fact that they were inclined towards those very specific kind of um
task

Meant that there were different there were different angels that were assigned
tasks primarily to help us or to do Administration if you're talking about the
middle rank to do Administration in relationship to the other angels and then the
people at the top the Angels at the top were primarily uh created for God and then
the lower rank was created for us but there's always a certain sense in

Which there is a kind of uh a uh there's a task to which they're assigned once they
chose to not accept their task that meant that their will was inclined to negating
that task anywhere they found it so let me give you an example the demon Loki yeah
it's a real demon the demon Loki his original design task um because I had him in
one case was to inspire people to enter into religious life and to become priests
his primary

Job was to Foster vocations his now his thing is is that he actually his function
that he performs now in relationship to Satan serving Satan is that he actually
seeks to derail vocations by getting men and women to become worldly which we're
seeing across the board this guy's phenomenally successful so that's just one
example another example was is that we talk about Lucifer now Lucifer comes from
the

LA two Latin words Luke's Ferry which means to Bear light right which basically
means that there was some that his principal function was something on the
intellectual level at a certain point I managed to beat out of him because I've had
him in three different cases and he basically said that his originally assigned
task was to Enlighten the mind of our lady so that's why he was called Lucifer that
was his primary assigned task was to

Enlighten the mind of our Lady to make her even more sacrificial than she was he
said when he saw her because in his first instance everything that was necessary
for them in order to choose their task he saw each Angel saw this is what my task
is and this it revolves around everything necessary to make my choice they saw and
in this he saw the interior beauty of our Lady he said she her interior life was so
absolutely beautiful

That he knew he would always be second best and that's the beauty that he wanted so
at a certain point I said to him well because he was beefing about the title of our
Lady mayor of Justice I said so really what you saw in him was in her was him
wasn't it now that's a way it's a very formal way for an exorcist to tell the
demons you're talking about God you saw she was

The perfect inner interior life she was the perfect mirror image of God and he said
yes that's why I wanted to be God not because of the power not to subvert his thing
because I wanted his Beauty for myself which is interesting because one of his
assigned tasks was music actually that he God gave him a sense of beauty and this
is one of the reasons why the music we see today is becoming very

Competitive and very vile right but his second his secondary assigned task was to
Enlighten our minds to make us more sacrificial than we actually are Saint Thomas
says you know St Thomas is one of those guys that he'll make these one not he'll
make these offhanded comments in in the summa theology he'll just say you know
something like well the totality of the spiritual life ultimately revolves around
um a person being willing to sacrifice

Their will to his like and he just throws it out there like it's nothing and it's
like the totality of the spiritual life right so but that's actually true when
Lucifer saw our lady so I'm trying to give you a sense of their psychology as I
mentioned their personalities are very distinct and they have a very their
psychological patterns they have patterns of thinking just like we do and so what
happened is is that

Um his he got angry with God because he basically revealed something about our lady
now you might have heard me talk about this in another conference if you've
listened to them online but he said that her entire life our lady sacrificed
herself over and over again and never once never once counted the personal cost
that's why she is different from every

Single individual in this room she is not like us we are not like her in that
respect it's true that she's human but by the grace of God she never once counted
the personal cost that she would have if she did something that was going to be
painful or difficult or what have you and then he said and it wasn't just that it
was the perpetuity of her sacrifice her whole life over and over and over again

She sacrificed herself again never taking her own good never taking herself into
the calculus but purely doing it because as one of the other possessors said when
she saw how good God was she gave herself entirely to him when he found out that
his job was to make her even more sacrificial which meant her interior Beauty was
going to be even greater by his help he said he would have nothing to do with it
and so he said he spat on God because he

Wasn't he wasn't going to accept that so this gives us an indicator now there's
something that's very important in that it means that when Angels make a decision
they're all in they're either in or they're out there's none of this Half Baked
stuff see as human beings because we're pretty dumb when we make a decision it's
not real wholehearted right I mean we like I'll

Do this oh that wasn't good and then we later change our mind right and when we
make a choice free choice is basically the choosing between goods and what we're
doing is we're determining our will we're directing our will to a particular thing
so we're making a determination but that determination is by degree St Thomas says
initially there's an echoed habit there and inclinations that when we make a choice
the next time we make that choice

There's a little bit of an inclination and the more we make that choice the moral
will becomes fixed in something this is why people who lead a good life and keep
trying to pursue the good it just becomes that's their goal that's what they want
they're not interested in evil that's their goal but we also see the same thing in
relationship to politicians and evil people I'm not equating them by the way okay
this is why you look at some of these

People and one of the signs one of this one of the psychological patterns that you
see that is we call it a secondary sign of possession but it's not necessary
possession but it's a pattern of thinking that you see in demons is malice when you
see someone I tell people okay just bear with me let's just say for the sake of
argument again bear with me just for the sake of argument we elect a bumbling idiot
to the presidency now

Just just bear with me I know it just seems ridiculous but just bear with me even
an idiot bumbles around upon the right thing to do once in a while but when
everything that is done maximizes damage to the degree that they're capable of
that's called malice right and this is something that we're actually dealing with
that when consistently every time you turn around our country's getting hammered on
every

Single level on every single thing on doesn't matter what it is that's malice and
that's what demons have because when they make a choice it's a different matter
with human beings it takes a while to get to the point where our will becomes fixed
in something in fact it doesn't become fully fixed until we die and then God fixes
it for us in the good or the evil depending on whether we're in the State of Grace
or not

But as far as Angels it's all in because they have perf absolutely perfect
comprehension of exactly what they're choosing when they make a choice their will
becomes perfectly fixed in that evil right and so that's their patterns of thinking
today I know there's a there's a resurfacing of a particular heresy it's called
apocal pocket I don't remember this a pocket testosters is the name of the heresy
it was formally condemned by the Council of

Constantinople and it's this idea that in the end the demons might be rehabilitated
that the people at Hell might still get to go to heaven that has been formally
condemned by the church you cannot consider yourself a Catholic and believe that
okay this means that their punishment is forever and they know it he's in session
you'll one of the things that you beat them up and makes them it really causes them
a lot of pain is you just draw out

Some point of the things that they're suffering and you tell them this is going to
last forever forever this will never change for you never and it just takes them
down right so the point being is is that their their will is fixed in evil okay so
this means that certain demons are just going to afflict uh on some people than
another so very often which demon Is possessing an individual it's based upon the
inversion of his

Assigned task so if so and that means that there are certain demons for certain
kinds of disorders so that demon of impurities beelzeba but also ball is a demon of
impurity asthma Davis is a demon of Imperial there's a number of them that are
underneath it that are demons of impurity but they actually choose their their
specific things so for example if you we see this from time to time if someone
shows up on our doorstep if it's a male

Who has homosexual tendencies and he's possessed it's sure money it's asthma Deus
because he's the guy that's driving it and that tells you that the demons are
picking at these people and driving certain psychological behaviors um demons okay
so with us I started out talking about how the fact that we talk about we come to
in contact with a number of different things and from that we abstract and kind of
universal law

Knowledge so I see a bunch of dogs and then eventually I understand what a dog is
conceptually angels are the exact opposite when their mode of knowing is the
opposite of that so the first thing that they understand is the concept the
conceptual knowledge when they were created God infused in them the totality of all
of the natures and all the concepts of everything that would ever exist so boom all
at once they have this

Perfect comprehension of everything so all they need to do to know what a tree is

is just look think of a tree and boom they instantaneously acknowledge uh exhaust
at the degree that their intellects can what a tree is this is true about human
beings all they have to do is think of what a human being is they know every single
faculty they know exactly how it works they know how DNA works they know how
disposition works the DNA connected to
The disposition they actually know how our appetites and emotions work they know
how the interrelations of the various faculties they also know um just by looking
at um the and they also know the various kinds of causes and things perfectly so
they know causes this is how Nostradamus was able to use divination or sorcery in
order to to figure out a larger the amount of stuff that was actually going to
happen because of the fact that the

The demons can look at the state of things and then they know perfect the nature of
causes and so they know where the things these things are headed right it's
analogous do I tell people you know we have a certain knowledge of that as human
beings just not quite on that level so and this is the this is the example I was
used if I throw a off the top of a building I know by the nature of gravity he's
going to hit the ground

Right well it's the same thing in relationship to them except with them they can
look at Super complex states of things and know the nature of causes and know where
they're generally headed this is one of the reasons why I said recently that they
know their time is coming up they know it's short because certain things are
starting to fall in place that they've seen in the past that anytime this happens
God pulls the plug on it right

According to the midrash or no sorry according to the um uh not the midrash is it

the midrash yeah the mid rash at the Jews that supposedly according to the midrash
and which is the commentary that the Jews made on various parts of scripture that
the reason that God flooded the Earth was because men were entering the contracts
with men it was gay marriage and so that's when he said that's enough and he pulled
the plug on it so the

Demons are seeing all this they're like it can't be much longer right the other
thing is is that with demons when they when as so they first were given this
perfect conceptual knowledge which they never lose which puts us at a extreme
Advantage because they're so intelligent they're so knowledgeable they know exactly
the stuff they know exactly how things work etc this is one of the reasons actually
you can do a diagnostic and possession

Because sometimes they'll say things they'll make theological distinctions that
there's no way this person could know right and so that's one of the ways that you
actually know it but their mode of knowing they start with the concept and the way
they understand a particular thing is is they just take them their will because
they only have intellect and will they don't have emotions in a body and all that
they just have intellect and will all

They have to do is think of the concept and then look at a particular instance with
inside the concept and that's how they can know you their knowledge of you the
knowledge of all particular things as they've happened from the beginning of
History until now have been infused in their intellects as it happens they
literally know every single material thing that's happening in the entire universe
all the time

It just means they have to focus on particular things so if they want to watch you
all they have to do is look at you in their concept and they know and they've been
watching you by the way not to make you paranoid although they do say you you're
not paranoid if they are following you and watching you but uh the point being is
but they're very limited God restricts them and limits their ability to affect us
but it

Doesn't mean they're not watching us and they're watching us very closely because
they're watching our patterns they're watching our patterns for three things one is
they just want to watch they already know by our DNA what our proclivities are
likely to be whether dispositions what are inclinations to specific vices are going
to be and things of that sort just by looking at our DNA but then they also watch
our patterns of

Behavior so that they know likely they have a pretty good idea of what virtues and
vices you have what your spiritual weaknesses are what your spiritual strengths are
the other thing they're watching for are the external manifestations of Grace that
God has given you internally so that they can kind of map that engage that and take
that into consideration of the spiritual warfare they also have infused knowledge
of warfare

Which means they under and because they have a perfect knowledge of human nature
and because they have a perfect knowledge of spiritual warfare and because they've
been watching you for decades they know the precise strategy that they can use to
take you out God permitting this is something to keep in mind we're not talking
about a normal situation here I mean the thing is like I said they're watching this
but you have to

Understand that God regulates every single thing they do see we get this idea which
is false that demons get to maraud around and go do whatever they want that's not
true literally what Temptation when they contempt you the degree of the Temptation
the content of the Temptation is entirely determined by God entirely even in cases
of possession who can possess that the degrees of possession

His possessions are by degrees what kinds of manifestation how long the position is
going to last what's going to get them out what parts of the body they can possess
when they can manifest when they can't manifest the degree of the individual
manifestations are entirely determined by God they are on an extraordinarily short
leash demons are phenomenally consistent for three reasons one is they have a
nature that has not changed and so they're going to

Behave according to their nature second their sin fixes them in a certain also set
of behaviors so they're going to act consistent with that third God regulates them
and doesn't permit them to do anything without it being for our spiritual benefit
in some sense this is why demons even in possession cases will admit that there
they are the instruments of sanctification of the person who's possessed some of
the

Holiest people I know were possessed or are possessed I knew a woman that actually
reached the fourth level of prayer and started having mystical contemplation just
as The Possession broke that's four levels she managed to get up four levels
there's nine most people never get past the second and then the one of the cases
that I'm working with now she's possessed by beelzeba which is the

Demon of impurity and I I've Seen Her Go six months without committing venial sin
she took a vow of Chastity 14 years ago once the possession was outed and she's
never once violated it and so he has become the instrument of her sanctification
she's becoming one of the most she if there's any person that I can say that has
that true virtue of the more virtue of mortification that willingness to suffer
it's her and so God uses them usually possessed

People will say Well I'm glad I got out of this what I got out of this but I don't
think I'd want to be possessed again right but this tells us okay so what we're
gonna so that's just how demons function psychologically and they each time you get
a different demon and you can just see by their patterns of thinking that they just
have they just their their characteristics are different they're like I said their

Personalities are very different so with us Temptation comes from three sources the
world of Flesh and the devil and the devil the world only acts upon the Flesh and
the Devils can only act upon on the world or the Flesh in order to tempt us so it
all hinges upon the flesh but the point being is is that so demons are not the
cause of every form of Temptation but they do know the principal way that they
tempt us

Um Saints say is by introducing things into our imagination and they know from our
patterns what we are likely to fall to in relationship to temptation and so if you
notice that you're struggling in a specific area as I mentioned before that means
you that the demon the demon that drives certain kinds of things so let's say
extreme anger extreme anger is the domain of the demon Isis

And the reason it's his domain is because Isis his fall was precipitated by the
fact that he refused to accept Christ's Mercy for men and as a result of that he
became the most cruel vicious demon you ever have to deal with he's even worse than
Satan in a certain sense Satan has his own set of characteristics that you have to
deal with but this guy is just cruel and vicious but that tells you that he drives
these particular things and and

As you begin to have advice you start building this compatibility with a demon and
he just you become easily manipulatable so one of the things that you can do is you
can you know start to actually the principal way that you're going to engage in
spiritual warfare is by eradicating all of Isis and of all vices from your life and
building virtue overcome your spiritual defects Etc and also you have to build a
certain

Prayer life which is all part of the virtue of justice and so as you begin to do
that the demons ability to influence you begins to wane you see we got this idea
that demons are becoming more powerful demons do not increase in power the power of
their Wills is fixed where they're at in the hierarchy of angels is um depends that
so it depends on their nature so how much of St Thomas says the degree of their
spiritual substance determines the

Degree of their intellect so the more intelligent an angel is the higher he is and
he says their their Wills are proportionate to their intellects so that means that
Satan is on the top as far as those who afflict us as far as the power of His will
in hell it's uh there's a a profound pecking order they know they never argue with
a higher demon because they know he can just force them to do something by the
power of His will and so they're

Just like well I'll just do it right it doesn't mean they don't hide certain things
doesn't mean they don't try and set each other up to take a shellacan once in a
while it just means that they they they they know that there's this proper pecking
order part of it also the natural law is in demons is that God is to be obeyed they
only got one chance to disobey him after that they can never disobey never this is
a very important point they can

Disobey The Exorcist and us to some degree but that's only because God allows it in
order to build up our strength and our virtue in relationship and our Authority and
relationship to them but in session you know your commanded demon to do stuff it
takes a little while to get them to do it now do it there's always some degree of
compliance but as you there's six stages of Liberation when you get right towards
the end of the sixth stage he does every

Single thing The Exorcist tells him he actually pays attention to the Exorcist
waiting for the command so he can just get it done and get it out right but when it
comes to God if he tells them because that comes up once in a while in session all
of a sudden he'll tell you something and that's an indicator that God has told him
you have to tell them and they'll sell it yeah he told me I had to tell you they
immediately comply immediate and the reason being is

Because the authority structure that God infused in their mind this Authority
structure is part of the natural law and God infused that in their minds and that
means they know the exact lines of delineation of who has Authority and who doesn't
who has authority over what and who doesn't they know those exact lines of
demarcation both in relationships themselves but also in relationship to us this is
one of the principal reasons why

He went after Eve so what he did is he went after Eve and he because what this is
what happened the fathers of the church say that when Adam was created God told him
directly So Adam was talking to God and God told him directly do not eat of the
fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden so God gave that precept to Adam then
when Eve was created because uh Saint Thomas says in the entire moral tradition
says she was created into a

State of subordination which means she's under him and I'll return to that here in
a minute she's under him and so as a result of that by the natural law Adam was the
one who told Eve donated the fruit okay so what happens is when she eats the fruit
she steps out from underneath a twofold Authority structure one up from underneath
God and then one from out from beneath her husband the two principal functions of
authority is to provide and to protect she was now

Spiritually unprotected this is exactly what the demons were trying to do to get
people to step outside out from underneath the authority structure so that they
could attack them so St Thomas is the Hallmark of being in the state of
subordination prior to the fall is that women um that Adam loved her he was
solicitive her he took care of her he listened to her he actually paid attention to
her

Which you know women like wow that sounds wonderful all right and then after the
fall she entered into a state of subjection which meant Adam Stopped Loving Her
which is why Saint Paul says you have to love your wives she he stopped listening
to her he didn't take her good into consideration Etc but he said then in heaven he
said women are either in a state of subordination nor subjection because some women
rule

In heaven so I tell women okay look it you cannot become holy because the curse of
Eve is this desire to control I'm not going to go into that because that's a whole
conference in itself but in the Hebrew when it says in uh in Genesis chapter 2 it
says your desire shall be for your husband the actual Hebrew means the desire to
control and this is called the curse of Eve it's something that every single woman
has to conquer I've literally only met five

Women my entire life that I thought she's really concerned historically they said
If a woman can conquer the curse of Eve she can Master any virtue and in that
process she becomes one of the most magnificent creatures to walk the face of the
planet if she doesn't she becomes the most becomes one of the most wretched
interesting it's either you're going to be magnificent or you're going to be
wretched you know so okay

So I tell women I said okay look it if you can conquer that cursive Eve and that
the way that's conquered is Saint Paul said women be subject to your husband so be
you have to be it's not servitude it's not um it's not slavery it's not groveling
it's actually in a rightly ordered way there's a whole series of conferences I give
on that it's in a rightly ordered way they um if you do that in the process of
Conquering the curse of even building

Virtue you can become more holy than your husband and then have a higher place in
heaven and boss him around for the rest of Eternity so don't go for the short-term
payout don't try and control them in this life become holy and submit submit to him
and then in the next life you got it made okay but he goes after that and this
cursive that the curse of Adam by the way is irresponsibility and effeminacy which
we

See among men especially today all you have to do is look at most Millennials and
like yeah I see that okay by the way I pick on Millennials because they're such an
easy target right okay so there are good Millennials I'm not saying there's not the
point being is is that they um you have to the demons are going to use that they
know the structure of our fall they know how sin disorders us and that's why they
want to do it demons are not becoming

More powerful in themselves what's happening is we're doing two things like every
time we commit a sin that disorder is their domain and so we are we are seeding to
them influence in a particular area so every time we sin we increase their
influence in that area their power doesn't change it just means their ability to
exercise it becomes more prevalent the second part of it is is that we um through
so that's the first part is just through our sin that

We're giving them strength and relationship to that but then also the frequency of
the sin how much we're doing it means that they're basically they are basically
because there's so many people sinning that as a result of that that gives us an
indicator that because so many people are sinning they're getting more and more
influence in the world it's pretty obvious I mean you don't have to you don't have
to be someone like me who

Weren't who literally my full-time job is beating up demons I tell people my full-
time job is I torture intelligent creatures that's my job right you don't have to
be mean to know that things are bad right there the patterns of behavior one of the
patterns of behaviors when Christ said that Satan was a liar and a murderer from
beginning I'm not going to go into the murder portal though I did he did reveal why
he was a murderer from the beginning and

When you find it out you're just like man this guy's so evil but in relationship to
the to the lying I had him for three days beat the guy senseless for three straight
days and he didn't tell me the truth once when it would have been better if he just
told me the truth right they're so wed to that lie we're seeing that same kind of
pattern in our own politicians and our own public life where the line is so
habituated that you wonder if they're

Even capable of telling the truth sometimes all right and so this is something that
we're actually seeing it's all about why do demons lie to gain power to manipulate
us to control us why did we hear about you know coven for two years to lie to us
and to control and to manipulate us I'm not saying covet isn't a real thing I'm
just saying saying what they told us about it was obviously a form of brainwashing
you can I got a conference on that if you want to listen

To that the point being is that we're starting to see these same Powers because the
the same uh activities of the Demons replicated in human beings so as the more
people become sinful the more the demons are able to influence this particular life
but the demons also know that God has a cut off at a certain point he's going to
say that's enough and if for no other reason because he loves us and he doesn't
want

Us to continue going down this Rabbit Hole every time you think that people have
reached a bottom they come up with others some other form of a depravity or like
how did you come up with that right I mean there's certain forms of depravity that
even the demons say yeah that's pretty bad even I find it revulsive there's one
high-level prelate in the church that he said about this high level prayerlet he
says oh yeah I don't

Like that guy I'm like why not even the things he likes doing I find revulsive okay
so this gives you an idea of it so they've come proud now let me give you an
example of how we how what we're doing why we're seating so much control now if you
just think about it let's just say for the sake of argument every human being on
the planet only committed one venial sin a day only one that means that God is
being offended seven billion times a day so the next

Time you get offended I don't want to hear anything that's just with venial sin but
we know there's billions of mortal sins being committed God is Gravely being
offended on a regular basis and at a certain point what happens is if you keep
committing moral sin eventually God just allows the demons in I always tell people
look the sin does it is the domain of Satan but it's up to God to determine how
much

They're able to step Across the Threshold so every mortal sin any form of mortal
sin whatsoever which I've seen people become possessed through sins of Pride for an
occasion pornography you name it any any moral sin is an Open Door to possession in
fact mortal sin the proper effect of mortal sin is possession because you've taken
yourself out from underneath the authority structure of God because he has a
specific laws and you place yourself

Under Satan by that process of committing mortal sin now you might open the door
but it's up to God to determine whether the demons are allowed to step over the
threshold and most of the time he blocks that but it also tells us something very
important because because disorder of any form whether it's physical or natural or
moral or spiritual is the domain of the Demons it means that it doesn't matter

If you think something's morally simple or not it's still the proper effect what
does that mean well you see with sin there's two kinds of effects there's the
subjective effect so when you commit a sin it's in the will and so your will
becomes weakened Etc but then there's objective effects of sin so one time I was
watching this but I don't even know why I was watching this thing but I'm watching
this uh a

Young girl she's 15 she's online and she's crying and she's pregnant and she says I
don't know how this happened I'm like okay I can't help you right the point being
is is that becoming pregnant is a possible objective effect of the sin of
fornication whether you think it's morally sinful or not doesn't matter you know if
you don't think you can become pregnant it doesn't matter you

Can have objective effects of sin well one of the objective effective sins of of
mortal sin is demons involvement in our life so it doesn't matter if you don't
think it's morally sinful does it matter if you didn't intend you can open up the
door and to Demons involvement in your life now if you think of what that means but
if you volitionally do it and you know it is morally sinful that's even worse so
this is one of the things that we're

Actually seeing is the fact that it's becoming so bad that humans are just mopping
us up one of the things that demons do because they have access to the imagination
they also have access to our emotions now I'm going to explain a little bit of
thing about human psychology and how demons are influencing this and this will give
us a sense of how much power they have today so the way human beings are structured

We have five senses and we come into contact with reality through our five senses
and it comes in through the brain it's called The Common Sense power into Mystic
language but it's a part of the back of the brain and it unifies our five senses
and expresses that experience that sense experience into our imagination in the
form of an image right so we know this you can watch me and close my eyes and then
you can still maintain that image of me in your mind

That's how we know that that works and then there's a power called the cogitative
power and what it does is it goes back into memory it looks at this image and then
it goes back into memory Compares your past experience with it and then it merges
that information with that image and then that gives us a fuller understanding of
something how do we know that this is going on it's called Alzheimer's so the
Alzheimer's patient he sees the person

That it might be his wife so his wife walks in normally his conjugated power would
go back and bring out this is your wife and he would immediately recognize that's
his wife but because the quantitative power can't access the memories because of
the plaque buildup on neurons although they have a new Theory now about what could
be causing that they they it doesn't merge that information and then he doesn't
recognize the

Individual okay so that's what's going on this quantitative power also has the
ability to make an assessment about whether something is good or bad purely on a
physical level that's normally it's normally related to Pleasure and Pain but this
assessment basically puts a perspective on it why is that so important well there's
two reasons one is the perspective that you have on your image determines which
emotion you have in relationship to that image

So the each emotion has a very specific the emotions are watching and then once
they that particular perspective comes on the image they're moved I'll give you an
example when a guy first gets married his wife he's like she's so beautiful look at
her she's just so wonderful she's so nice she's so kind she's a wonderful
personality she actually gets my beer when I'm laying on the sofa you know so he
goes through this whole thing 10 years later in lots of memories

The conjugated power goes back brings up the information when she walks in the door
it puts a negative assessment on it and he experiences sorrow and he's just like
the old battle ax she hasn't changed your perspective on her has changed this is
important because we can choose what perspective that we have and therefore
determine our emotional life why is this important because demons can put that
perspective

On the images in your imagination they can manipulate and control you emotionally
by the perspective that they put on that this is one of the reasons why they spend
enormous amounts of time getting you to follow your emotions because if they can
get you to follow your emotions all they have to do is move your emotions by
putting this perspective on and then they can control you

That's exactly what has happened in our culture for 50 straight years they've been
training us they've been habituating us to follow our emotions you can't watch five
minutes of the news media without there being some bleeding heart story to get you
oh and the next one's ah because you're afraid and the next one is it's just
constant stream of emotions and they're getting people to follow that they even
tell well if you if you don't follow your emotions you're

Just heartless no I'm a human being okay and so that habituation that we're seeing
actually going on is how they manipulate and control us so what that's the same
with things that demons actually do but as our culture becomes more and more like
that it means the demons become more empowered because following your emotions over
reason is disordered and they're going to use that and so they're going to drive
human beings to
To Foster that mentality and that mindset to get people to follow their emotions in
relationship to this I'll give you a perfect example gay marriage 15 years ago I
stood in front of cat 40 Catholic psychologists because I'd written this book in
Psychology from a tomistic point of view and I said what constitutes mental health
is not what everybody's doing because then sin would be mentally healthy right
which it's not

And I said what constitutes mental health is that your mind functions the way God
structured it and designed it according to the natural law and that means that our
structure of our mind is to put us into contact with reality now one of the things
that emotions do is it causes what's called contraction when you have a strong
emotion you lose contact with the reality of what's going on and it becomes your
focus becomes internally we

All know this we've all experienced this like when we get angry with somebody or
something really hurtful happens we tend to focus on our interior pain rather than
on focusing on and you know this in marriage right your spouse is something that's
hurtful what do you do you focus on the pain rather than what's the best thing that
this what would be the best thing for this person's spiritually for my spouse
spiritually virtually Nobody Does that right so it causes this

Contraction that means it divorces you from your contact with reality so the more
people follow their emotions the more they become disconnected from reality right
the point being is is that the more we get divorced from reality the more we follow
our emotions the more we get disconnected from the natural long way it functions
the more demons have control and influence over our society we're seeing it right
now right I

Mentioned it in relationship to Transit transitioning from one gender to another

Saint Thomas says that can only happen when reason breaks down when people don't
have no longer have use of reason it's also the same thing in relationship to the
LGBT all that stuff is all connected to the fact that the natural law and the minds
of people has become the technical word is occluded Saint Thomas says our inability
to grasp the inclination to

The natural law is either the result of
what do you think the last 30 years has
what we've seen bad formation Sally has
Johnny now if Johnny had full formation
mentally with those people which by the
before they were doing those
sin or bad formation intellectual formation
happened in our Public School System that's
two mothers what do you think of that
he would say there's something wrong
way you know in transgender operations

They started if you actually watched the history of it they started doing those in
the 80s but they quickly even called it simulation they knew they weren't changing
these people's gender and what happened is when they got to the point they they
basically began to see the same pattern which we now 80 regret after they've gone
through the thing High rates of suicide High rates of depression Etc from the
people who've gone through this and they realize this

Isn't helping people so they stopped it wasn't until about 15 20 years ago that the
money came in and they made big money a transgender operation somewhere between 100
and 200 Grand they're making big money off of this and that's what's driving it
okay so the point being is is that the more we become disordered the more demons
can drive this stuff and then the harder it becomes for the rest of us to actually
follow the natural law that is to follow

The moral teachings of the church and to do what we know is right and to build
virtue on the other hand where sin and rebounds Grace abounds all the more so that
the more sinful Things become the more we are capable of getting Grace from God if
we're faithful and the more faithful we are to The Graces the more he's going to
give us and the more holy that we can become so how do you keep yourself protected
in the context of all this well obviously

The first thing is always stay in the State of Grace never commit mortal sin
whatsoever that's been one of my themes here always stay in the State of Grace get
to confession on a regular basis we see the sacraments go to mass on Sunday days
and holy days not just Sundays holy days making sure they're in your marriages are
straightened out all of that you have to also make sure that you're preying on a
regular basis

One of the things that we discovered it took us a while I've been doing solemn
exorcisms for about 16 to 17 years and my lay assistant who does my initial betting
my nickname for him is the chromogen and the reason I call them that is because
he's a crochet and but he's just exactly the type of guy you want in this because
there's always people that are trying to just they just want to see me they don't
need my help right so he's very good at

Weeding these people out but anyway he's been he's been helping exorcists for
almost 25 years and so we sat down one time and um there's a long story behind it
but what we basically did is we started this thing where we started putting people
on a Prayer prescription which is saying the Angelus six noon and six and the
prayers of the auxilium christianorum you can look that up online there's an app
for it

Of their personal exam Christian Norm at that same time six noon and six and what
we started to notice is is that the in diabolic influence in people's lives began
to wane significantly we even saw people self-liberate from possession by doing
this every single day it took him about six months but they did it and what we
began to realize is that in watching the patterns because he and I

Just sit and watch patterns right he's a former he's a lawyer but he actually used
to do ranching and so we sit and watch patterns right and I from the very beginning
as soon as I started working with demons because I'd written books in Psychology I
was watching watching the patterns so I could deter separate out okay this is
psychological patterns of proper to a demon this is human being and this is what it
looks like when they're mixed and one of the patterns

That we started to notice is that when people do that on a regular basis the demons
were basically vacating or it kept people immune from diabolic attack well two
things started to emerge the first is that exorcists are starting to notice that
most liberations are now revolving not all but most liberations of people who are
possessed are revolving around two areas of Catholic Doctrine either the
Incarnation or the passion specifically the precious blood

And so we started noticing that that was that that a lot of people were being
liberated because it had something to do with one of those the connection to one of
those to uh doctrines the second thing that we started to notice was it was the
same reason why exorcists used to say that the way you break diabolic oppression
which is attack from the outside is by just increasing your prayer life and over
the course of time it would just slowly

Taper off but what we started to notice is that the common element in people who
are diabolically obsessed people are being attacked through oppression even people
who are possessed with lat an elementary lack of discipline in their prayer life or
spiritual life Elementary I don't care if you're saying the rosary every day that's
not what I'm talking about you should you need to be saying the rosary day but
we're talking about
Something that requires a consistent self-denial day after day getting up at six
and saying and saying the Angelus at six and doing the prayers of the exam
Christian Norm can't tell how many people what can I get about seven no it has to
be at six it's that discipline of maintaining that on a regular basis is what
actually breaks the diabolic hold over them and they stop attacking the people so
it's this Elementary lack of discipline

People's spiritual life so if you want protection you have to start developing a
consistent prayer life but you also need to be engaging in forms of mortication
where it's consistent it requires Daily self-denial doesn't have to be huge it just
has to be something in which you're doing that in a consistent basis this is
something which we do even in our own Community right because our community which
is does exorcism we pray

Three to four hours a day three to four hours and that's what keeps us largely
immune the other thing is too is when we're in solemn session we're fasting six
days a week on one meal a day we do it consistently and that's what keeps us
protected we know it's not us we know it's God who's honoring our our sacrifice for
that but it's that consistent discipline that keeps people um that keeps people
immune the other

Thing is too is um um again you can say the prayers of the auxilium Christian aurum
that's a group that was started by two exorcists we think there's about four
thousand people sorry 400 000 people worldwide saying the prayers and it's actually
a group it doesn't take long to say the prayers five to seven minutes a day if you
say it every day everybody that's a member and all you

Have to do to become a member say the prayers everybody who's a member is praying
for everybody else who's in the group and so as a result you're literally plugging
into the prayers of 400 000 people for your spiritual protection for you and your
family the other thing is we've seen people liberated from possession just saying
those prayers it's a phenomenal diagnostic tool one time this one family was having
problems

With their daughter and I said well here start saying the prayers of their
Christian Norm from the time they started saying those prayers to the time they
stopped the daughter would scream uncontrollably she didn't even know they were
praying him so this is an indicator that the the demons they don't like these
things right so that's always a good sign developing virtue making sure you
eradicate any advice or any defect you

Have to know the mechanics of the spiritual life you actually have to also know
that Catholic faith we are not living in a time where you can be ignorant of your
Catholic faith if you are you will get mopped up not just by the so not just by
what's going on in a culture but by the demons themselves every single individual
that we deal with that is possessed has some failure of understanding in some point
of Catholic Doctrine every single one of

Them we are also finding that a vast majority of the people that show up on our
doorstep don't even understand the basic catechism of the Catholic Church they
don't understand even the basics we are not living in a time in which you can do
this especially as priests and bishops get weirder and weirder fortunately you got
good priests here but as they get weirder and weirder and weirder which is
happening you just watch it

It's like a daily score you can sit back get the popcorn and see which Bishop said
what nutty thing right the fact is is that you have to know your faith because if
you don't know your faith you're likely to do something that's going to cause you
harm spiritually and so this is something that the demons are going to do the other
part about it is is demons attack vocation

Which means they're always going to attack marriage how do they attack the marriage
remember this perspective on the image the first thing they do is put a perspective
on the image of one spouse to another in order to psychologically divide them if
you feel you're psychologically divided from your spouse you've already been mopped
up they've won to some degree and you're gonna have to fight that you're gonna have
to start looking

At your spouse different right but I tell women you know because one of the one of
the aspects of the curse of Eve is that when Eve ate the fruit she's like what if
he doesn't eat the fruit right and then what does he do he afterwards he's what's
the first thing Adam does When God says why did you do this he threw her under the
bus so as a result women part of the curse of Eve is they think their husband and I
tell women

This yes we all know your husband is the dumbest guy that walks the face of the
planet we all know that we know your husband's dumb we all know that that's what
they have to fight and deal with right by the way your husband might be dumb but
the point being is that is that and two sometimes God the wife will say what do you
think I mean we I mean I get it okay but it's also the same thing in relationship
to the wife I mean the guys

Can you know imagine just talks constantly they did brain studies they found out
just just a lightness a little bit before I finish up and then we go to q a when
they did brain studies they found out that women get 10 times 10 times the amount
of pleasured drug in their brains when they talk than men do all you have to do is
look at it the guy's sitting there and the wife's like but I tell people

That's actually a Perfection it's just a moderated
boy in the woods in uh it was in the 1920s I think
about 10 years old running in the woods of Germany
was running so fast he could actually keep up with
that the Wolves were the ones that nursed this kid
running around right
here's why they discovered this
it was there was a boy who was
he was naked running around he
the deer and they actually think
to the point where he was

Well they captured the kid and he knew zero language zero language so they tried to
teach him a language but what they found out is that he could never Master definite
articles or indefinite articles you just couldn't like us and does he just couldn't
couldn't get them and philologists for the longest time said well they just must
not have trained him right so then what happens is in uh this was in the 1980s they
found a girl who was 12 years old her

Parents thought she was so they had blocked her in this room and fed her and they
never talked to her never let her out never let anything and so she literally knew
no language so then they tried to teach her same problem she could not master
definite articles you actually see this with people in certain Asian languages
where there aren't definite articles when they start learning English they have a
very hard time mastering

Um definite articles and indefinite articles but also number right in relationship
to certain things and so um then they started doing brain studies and what they
found out is first of all I'm sure you've all noticed especially if you've gone to
another country and you're learning a language that women speak much more clearly
than men do as a general rule right what they found out is is that in the beginning
stages for

The first five years of the child's life the neurons are starting to develop
specific Pathways and if the mother specifically doesn't talk to the child on a
regular basis those neurons do not develop the pathways and it causes literal brain
damage so I tell people the inclination of God gave to women to talk is a
Perfection it's just it's meant for the children and not the husband okay why is
all this so important is

Because the demons are going to use even our Perfections against us right and
they're going to attack marriage they're going to attack your vocation they're
going to attack all sorts of things and you just have to be you don't be paranoid
you know I I'm one of those guys that you know when I get done beating up a demon
I'll tell you a story it's kind of funny but get Doug beating up this demon I'm
done I'm ready to go have a cigar and some Scotch right and

This uh one time this one demon I it took me a while to figure out what he was
doing but he was causing super vivid dreams at night to me and it took me a little
while to get a handle on it to stop him from doing that but in the dreams he was
actually revealing to me his experience of the sessions and so um one of the things
that he revealed in one of these dreams was that he was incensed at the fact that
during the

Sessions I would just show up beat him mercilessly and then just walk off like
nothing happened just really annoyed him okay so that being the case so to keep
yourself protected the main thing is to do if you lead an authentic Catholic life
in all of its richness that means not just Mass but also in get using the
sacramentals that the Church offers like the Benedict medal the scapulars things
like that using holy

Water Etc leaving a full Catholic life as it's understood from the tradition coming
to us your odds are becoming extraordinarily diabolic influencer nil you're going
to be tempted but that's because that's just our lot in life until we die but so
everybody suffers that to some degree or another even Christ suffered it for our
sake of course not because he was weak but quite the contrary

So the point being is that if you're leading an authentic Catholic life your odds
are becoming diabolically influenced are very rare and you're less likely to um to
suffer uh extraordinary Temptations one last thing remember this point where I was
talking about elementary discipline and how it keeps demons away one of the
patterns we just sorted out

In the last year that we were watching is that family families who have not lost a
child and each child in the family when they reach the age of majority continues
leading the Catholic faith they have one thing in common and that is this
Elementary discipline there's a consistency in self-denial in the family on a
regular basis and this means it was you know requiring them to pray at certain
times or requiring them to do self-denial requiring them to do

Certain things fasting on a regular basis causing requiring the children to do that
so when they come out the other end the the loss the percentage of loss was
practically nailed even families that prayed together a lot of times they would
stay together but we found that undergirding that has to be this Elementary
discipline that you have to instill in your children and that's one of the
principal ways you will protect them as well oh and last stay

Under the authority structure both in the church so you have to stay in the church
at standards Authority structure because that's where the one of the primary
aspects of authority is but also you have to follow this traditional catholic
understanding of the family structure and its Authority structure within the family
the husband has to be the head of the household and I'm not saying this because I'm
against women quite frankly there's all
Sorts of women that are holier than their husbands the issue isn't whether you have
power or not that's demon talk if you actually look at the feminist movement it is
the curse of Eve on steroids but if if you follow the traditional catholic
understanding of the husband is supposed to love his wife which means he's going to
exercise Authority not for his sake but for hers he'll be sacrificial for her he'll
love

Her he'll do what he needs to do in order to do what's best for her then on the
other hand of it if she submits then she can stay under that Authority structure
and she's likely to be protected it's the same thing with children we know this we
know that when children step out from underneath the authority structure of their
parents they get hurt it's the kid who's playing in the yard you tell the kid don't
go run out into the street he runs out in

The street and he gets run over right because he didn't stay underneath the
authority structure the same thing is true even on a spiritual level so follow
those those that traditional family structure do it in a rightly ordered way in a
loving way and then as a result of that then over the course of time it will
provide that level of protection okay so we're going to stop and we'll have about
30 minutes of q a so

[Applause] I'll just [Applause] okay so we're just gonna I'll answer these for
until we get to 30 minutes and then we'll kind of cut it off part of the reason I
cut it off at 30 minutes is because if we don't we'll be here forever all right uh
when an exorcist beats up a demon what does that mean well in the early church
there was

Actually part of the right was you'd slap the
anymore okay although there was time one time
who was possessed and she just led to me with
right okay so uh basically what that means is
of
demon out of people we don't do that
I said that to a to what this woman
all seriousness whatever it takes
it primarily means saying the prayers

The church the ritual the solemn right of exorcism it also means saying other kinds
of prayers making him reverence certain things making him uh you know putting
applying relics and various other sacred items to the parts of the body that they
possess making them say prayers um making them admit certain things um and so it's
basically getting them to do things that are contrary to the will which causes them
pain and then as the

Pain increases they become weaker and then they're likely to give you the
information that you need so it's largely about using prayer yourself but then also
making them do prayers or doing certain kinds of prayers and then they'll they'll
do that or also just you know reverencing relics things of that start will cause
them that's what we mean by beating them up okay and it's brutal to them the the
experience that it even has in session is far more

Extreme than we even see as The Exorcist it's something it took me a while to
realize that this guy's in a lot more pain than he's letting on or that he's even
able to manifest and part of that has to do with the fact that the human body has
limitations and if he was to show the full extent of his pain through the human
body would literally kill the person not so much pain they're in uh will our
intellect and will after we die work like it does while we're alive

Now it works a little bit differently in the sense that your intellects normally
can only understand something when you have something in your imagination St Thomas
says and so we no longer have our imagination so our our knowledge in heaven is
more like Angelic knowledge and so we understand what's going on we know certain
things we know what's going on in this world but it just it functions more like
Angelic knowledge uh do demons know what we're thinking

Okay so there's a few ways in which demons can surmise or know what you're thinking
the first is by divine revelation which virtually never happens God reveals to them
that's what the person's thinking the second part is remember when I said that they
watch our psychological patterns they watch us all our life and they look at us and
they say and spouses do this with each other right spouses will like I know what
you're thinking

Right and so it's because they know by what's going by the way the person's
reacting or the way they're behaving what they're thinking it's not an absolute but
so it's the same thing in relationships so demons can watch our patterns but they
can also they can read our body and have a sense of what's going on so for example
when you lie the temperature around your eyes increases so that's an example of it
they also know when you lie there's

Certain other physiological patterns so they can kind of tell um by your patterns
of thinking and what you talk about they can start seeing your physiological
reactions and sometimes make the connection so that's one of the ways the other way
that they can note your thing is if you tell them the third way that they are the
fourth way that they can actually know is if they put a thought in your mind and
you

Don't resist it they know you're thinking it so that's one of the ways can a long-
term marriage with an alcoholic husband be in the proper order of authority yes but
it's going to take a little bit of work to get him to kind of come up to speed
because the alcoholism is affecting his ability to obviously to govern in a rightly
ordered way and so what she needs to do though is

Start finding certain ways in which she can um there's good there might be if he's
if he's an alcoholic such a point he can't even function well then she's going to
just have to assume certain responsibilities but once he were once he would
overcome the alcoholism then she needs to give them back which is sometimes
difficult but there's also sometimes if a guy's a functioning alcoholic you just
have to there's

Certain things you just have to let him exercise his authority in when it's rightly
ordered okay how does a faithful parent educate their children to be vigilant in
their spiritual life without making them uh feel there's a demon behind everything
it's actually a good question um I think the best way to do it is just teach them
to say the Prayer of Saint Michael and then when they get a temptation just say
well when you get a

Temptation you just tell the demon to stop it or what have you so it's a matter of
teaching them based upon their State uh their how old they are how much you know
that they can process and so you have to teach that but by the time someone reaches
18 they should have at least the basic understanding of spiritual warfare that they
attack our imagination they put thoughts in our minds they're not always ours they
um also uh you know they can move us

Emotionally Etc they should have the basics of it and that they should base saying
basic prayers to keep themselves um protected but the the big dividing line is is
that should not be the primary focus of their prayers their primary focus of their
prayers should be to be worshiping God being thankful to God and petitioning him
for things they need Etc it should be the normal stuff of the spiritual life and
that they just

Engage the demons when they see him Saint Peter says Be Vigilant and watchful which
basically means you know if you see them uh pop up you whack them down and then you
just keep moving on right you don't become focused on them don't hyper focus on
them and don't make them the focus of your life is the main thing one of the
principal ways you keep yourself protected is By ignoring them except when
necessary if they have to

Deal with them then you deal with them otherwise you just ignore them uh how
accurate was the screw tape letters fairly accurate it's kind of shallow but it
it's fairly accurate um how do demons choose who they will possess okay they don't
have any choice in the matter what that basically means is this there are two types
of possession there are possessions in which God permits

Them in the sense of he says you can possess this individual because demons will is
fixed on the evil it's almost like they're um compulsive they'll just do it because
they're gonna you know they're gonna choose that that path right and so they just
do it so God says well I'm going to permit you to do this and so they do it there's
other times he tells them you must possess this person

Now that sounds strange but that we call that conscription and basically what it is
is that God is allowing the possession or he he tells them they have to possess the
person because there's something in the person's life or through the possession
that he is that he is wants the family or the individual to come to knowledge of so
for example there was a case that I had it was actually two cases of sisters who

Are blood related and they were possessed by some of the same possessors one had
one extra one but the other ones had other possessors and the reason we came it
became clear that God basically conscripted them into possession was because of the
fact that he wanted a particular generational Spirit to be expunged from the family
line right and so a lot of times the demons don't have any control over the matter

So with the case of one of the cases I'm working on now one of the Demons was a
low-level demons um his original name was Eustis the just one and he had a specific
relationship with our lady and he had never possessed anybody and the Reason God
told him you have to possess this woman is because in her battle to get this thing
out she was going to reach a level of Holiness which which would be identical to
his level in

Heaven he was she was going
with our lady but his place
admit as much they'll admit
to choose anything right um
sanctification
to get his place in heaven not her his relationship
in heaven so so he uses them as instruments they'll
their slaves of Christ just unwilling so they don't get
why does God let demons do what they do it's for our

Ultimately okay how do you personally have you been personally attacked by Satan
during an exorcism no not really I mean okay it depends on what you mean by
attacked if you mean by an extraordinary way no but they did there has been a
couple of times during sessions where the demon would attack me internally and so I
I had an experience of what the person who is possessed what their what kind of a
psychological

Attack did they were undergoing now demons do not like to attack an experienced
Exorcist and there's a reason behind that being an exorcist is like stepping into a
boxing ring now if you've ever talked to a boxer an authentic boxer they'll say
you'll never really know a guy you can watch all the tapes until the cows come home
but it's not until you're in the actual ring with him that you get a sense of how
what his actual technique

And method is right and so that means that when you're in the boxing ring he
Reveals His methodology to you it's the same thing in spiritual warfare when the
demon attacks and experience exorcists he can he can break it very rapidly but then
he can stand back and reflect on his experience and get a sense of what the attack
is and then the next time in session he can go after him and get

Caused him in a lot of damage and so they don't like to so once in a while I do get
attacked but not uh not that often there's also a general principle it's not that I
like being attacked I don't but if I am attacked my attitude is uh at least I can
keep an eye on him because with demons when they're attacking you you can watch
them I mean There He Is We Know Him keeping an eye on you I'm watching

It's when they don't attack you you have to worry because that means you're about
to get broadsided and so that's one of the reasons why I ask our lady on a regular
basis watch my flank right because I can't team travel limited human being okay so
there was one time one demon jumped up and it was kind of like Judo for like 30
seconds where he was trying to hit me but I've been whacked a couple of times got

Decked right in the face once but that was this was one of those things well hey
he's gotta I mean literally all of a sudden he just goes why I'm like that and it
just nailed me right in the eye right perfectly in my mind okay all right but one
of the things we do is in the beginning of sessions we do a series of prayer that
clamped down on them and I'm also a firm believer in punishing bad

Behavior so when he does something like that he pays a price and he to the point
where he regrets it that's the goal okay our severe anxiety and or panic attacks
related to a demon or a spiritual root yeah they can be not always we can there are
psychological conditions that can a person can reach where that that is in place
however uh demons can also cause that if not how does one discern whether it is a
biological or spiritual origin it

Has to do with the specific psychological patterns and so basically if it's for
example if it's diabolical if it's psychological obsession psychological or mental
illnesses are basically the result unless it has an organic cause like there's
something wrong with the brain which can happen um but by the way not every mental
illness is the result of chemical imbalance there's a book called The

Chemical myth which is a very good book and talks about how the pharmaceutical
companies actually knew in the 1980s shortly after they had derived most of the
psychotropic drugs that they actually didn't work right they knew that but there's
billions of dollars a year in them okay so uh and there's a whole set of brain
science stuff behind that which if it

Was a different lecture I'd be happy to go into but there's some stuff online that
you can read about that but there are certain things that are actually from a
psychological cause and a psychological mental illnesses the result of rumination
so it's a habit that's built into the individual so it's very consistent and it
responds to external external stimulus so for example you know if some guy says I
think my wife's

Nuts and you're like well why do you say that well all I have to do is just look at
her cross side and she goes ballistic well maybe there's a reason for that but uh
the point being is is that it's going to respond to specific things externally
right so it's consistent and it responds to things that are external whereas
diabolical Obsession doesn't follow that pattern at all now they are opportunists
so they might use external stimuli but not always but the pattern is it'll

Switch on and then it'll just switch off and there's nothing that's causing the
thing to switch on and there's nothing to cause it to switch off priests see this
pattern regularly in confession the pattern I'll just describe it and any priest
will say yes I've seen that pattern usually it's a young man in his 20s he comes in
he's struggling against
Chastity or against not against he's struggling to maintain Chastity and he falls
he'll go to confession it feels like it lifts like The Temptations are gone they'll
be gone for a day or two and then over the course of the next couple of days that
Temptation set in really strong and then he falls and he goes to confession and
then it lifts again so that pattern like this is diabolic Obsession okay and so
there's things that can blow that

Actually out but that's one of the patterns that you actually tend to see so they
one of the things as I mentioned I've been doing this for 17 years and haven't
written a book on psychology before I did this I've been watching diabolic patterns
and I was able to sort out all the patterns those patterns are in the priest
version of the book they're not in the lay version of the book because of what we
call the CSI effect

We don't want people reading how possessed people behave or the patterns that we
see and then coming to us and acting it out and because it becomes harder to
discern so okay so but the other way is too is is that if it's from a spiritual
origin it will respond to prayer your own prayer you say a binding prayer or you
start doing this discipline like I mentioned 6 noon and six you start doing that
you're going to start seeing it

Lift slowly and that gives you an indicator that it's actually not psychological
that it's actually um spiritual uh does the devil influence all sin no there's
times we just choose stuff because we're being bad this is an important point
because sometimes even exorcists especially when they're first starting they'll say
she was manifesting what do you mean she was acting badly well not

Acting badly is not always a manifestation of a demon we we can act badly on our
own all right how much does free will play when it comes to choosing sin well sin
is entirely in the will and so the degree of the sin is directly proportions to how
free it is okay one time in this church there was a guy he was an 80 year old man
he was sitting in the back of the church and his phone rang and unlike this fine
young man who shut

It off he stands up in the back of the church and says I can't talk to you I'm at
Mass okay uh what are the nine levels of prayer well you can actually there that
that's a whole conference on its own I actually have a conference online called the
nine levels of prayer uh do guardian angels protect against possession or assist
during exorcisms and the answer is actually yes how much an angel is allowed to

Um to influence your life and to protect you is proportionate to two things the
first is what God commands and intends so a lot of times they'll just protect you
from being stupid and the effects of being stupid because God says you got to
protect this individual there's other times though when the demons will have to
stand back because God says you got to let them tempt them Angels any angel can
basically it's called probation they can any Angel Good

Angel can command any demon to leave right with our lady she's also we say that
actually technically all the saints in heaven have perfect courts of power over
demons but the difference between her and Christ is obviously Christ Has It by
Nature because he's God whereas with those in heaven it's by God acting through
them as instruments but our lady is a little bit different we say she has perfect
coercive power

Over demons because of the fact that she God lets her exercise it far more
frequently than um they that they uh then he lets allows the other angels to do or
the other Saints but the Angels so they can they can do it in exorcisms um
sometimes the angels will protect people sometimes they'll act upon the individual
who's possessed even during the manifestations in order to protect

Them from certain things maybe even psychologically they can preserve people's
psychological faculties there has been um once uh where um one of the people who is
possessed actually saw the guardian angel of my priesthood um I don't know if I
mentioned this online so when there are days you get another

You get another Angel usually from that hierarchy of our vehicles right and of the
people that I know that have had authentic Visions not people just say I see Angels
well God bless you but the the people who have the people who possessive actually
seen other people's Guardian Angels but also there's a young boy who I'm aware of
who's 10 years old and he can see Angels you can see them and his description is
Flawless and it

Lines out with what we know how these the descriptions that Saints and stuff have
given of them but anyway your guardian angel they say looks just like you and the
reason being is because his assigned task was to protect you now think about that
God create an angel whose nature was about you and that means that when he decided
to accept his assigned task his first act his first choice

Was to love you to be willing to protect you obviously he's doing under the aspect
of serving God's will but that's it so that's why they say they actually look like
them they say whereas all the people that have seen the guardian angels of people's
priesthood they say they're huge large so what happened is this woman who was
possessed she calls me and I tell people I kind of want to hear from you between

Sessions unless it's something I really need to hear well she calls and she says
I'm pinned to the floor and because the demons would pin her from time to time so
she hands the phone to the assistants who are assisting me during the sessions and
the um uh the assistant said yeah we can't budge her we can't move her at all
they're just pinned and I'm I'm literally handing the woman at the gate getting on
an airplane my ticket I'm

Like well I can't I can't do anything right now all the flight's only an hour long
I'll call you when it's done so we get through I get on the other end I got out I
get off the plane I get to a part of the airport where people can't hear me so I
call her back and I said are you still pinned she says yes so I said a simple
binding prayer bound the demon and all of a sudden I just hear her say I gotta go
she just hangs up five minutes later she calls back and

Said well he let up and I hadn't been to the bathroom in five hours so I had to go
to the bathroom I'm like fair enough before I got on the plane though I didn't tell
her this before I got on the plane after I hung up with her I said to the guardian
angel my priest would go help her what happened was is right at that moment my
guardian angel came and appeared to her and held her hand

During the whole time until she was freed so that gives you a sense of it right and
she says he's huge right so people say how come you get such a big demon I say
because I'm a little guy I need more protection okay uh best advice for engaged
couples don't do it don't do it no okay um the best advice is if you can

There is a conference that I did called the four stages of courtship it's the
structure that was laid out and it was followed prior to the collapse in Catholic
countries of how courtship was to be done and everybody who has gone through that
process says that when they get married they already have the virtues of self-
denial in relationship to each other where marriage is much better and smoother so
that's one of the things the

Other thing is you have to start we're learning to pray together and start working
on defects you also have to be brutally honest with yourself right and recognizing
that your spouse has issues right as they say during while you're dating recording
that's the best that person's ever going to be here right okay if there's a demon
of homosexuality and how are they repulsed by these acts

Because they have a natural law too their natural log finds them towards stuff
that's orderly even though they choose contrary to it so when they see that stuff
they feel the same revulsion of the natural law that we do okay but that doesn't
mean that they don't Inspire it because they want to inspire it it's more a kind of
a case with them they're just kind of like okay let's get this guy to do this right
okay um

Can you please explain what this would look like it's that we should be careful not
to pray binding prayers superstitiously basically what that means is that binding
prayers are like any other prayer they're based upon the Merit and the authority
that the person has in relationship to it so Authority is like parents can say
bonding prayers against demons in relationship to their family now the way it works
is is that prayer

Begets what it signifies so if there is something diabolic and you say the prayers
you're going to see some type of reaction it doesn't mean that every time you see
something you say a binding prayer I mean sometimes you just have to take an
authentic look at it and just ask is this thing honestly spiritual or not okay
because sometimes it's not spiritual sometimes it's just your kid is acting bad
right because sometimes

People bring me these it's always the kids like it's always a boy he's 10 years old
and it's a mother and she's bringing the kid Alex shows I think the kids possessed
the kid is acting out of control so then I'll just look at her and says when was
the last time you spanked him oh Father I don't believe in that and I said there's
why there's that's the story okay

So anyway that being said okay so how do I get off on that oh yeah okay so what you
have to do is you just have to use them like anything else if you see the change
then you maintain them if not then you just move on to something else and you just
have to pray so okay superstitiously would mean that you just I say the prayer and
this is what I get and it's not exact it doesn't exactly work that way

Do Guardian Angels move on to protect a new person after the death of the person
that they're regarding no the entire reason for the guardian Angel's existence was
to protect you and then to see God after that and that's it which is kind of cool
right so I did time once apologize to my guardian angel look I'm really sorry you
got stuck with me but okay uh one of the requirements to become an exorcist the
church has several of them

He should be someone of older a he should normally be older he should be um and by

that they mean that he should be a priest for a while there should be a certain
amount of time he's a priest because you have to be grounded see the Society of
priest that we have which is we only do exorcism work and and you can't even apply
to be a member of our society until you've been ordained for at least five years
usually we like to

See ten and most all the people that are with us now have been priests for 10 years
at least um part of that's because you have to be grounded because there is a lot
of interior battles that actually occur the demons do attack you as I mentioned
before and it can be the first two years as an exorcist is a meat grinder
interiorly you're getting attacked and it's just brutal right and then after a
while you start getting better at it and
You just realize it and you beat up the demons more and like anything else they
want to leave you alone because they've gotten their nose bloodied a few times they
don't like you anymore and you like them okay in fact I hate you I was telling
these the people at the lunch this afternoon one time um this one demon said to me
says I hate your guts and I said no you don't hate me you hate him referring to God
it says

Oh I hate him but I hate you too I'm like yeah yeah yeah all right okay so there
has to you have to you should be of a certain age you should have a certain level
of piety which basically means that you need to be someone who understands that you
need to be under the authority of your Bishop you have a Devotion to the office of
your Bishop doesn't mean your Bishop's perfect you should also have a certain level
of spiritual life that needs to be placed

You need to be knowledgeable this is the one problem we have people ask me how many
are the exorcists there are in the country about 130 but only about 20 know what
they're doing and it's a lot of it's because they just don't have proper
theological backgrounds or they just haven't had the proper training or their
training was bad so what training is required so we um I used to teach at the Liu
the 13th Institute which is actually a

Um uh place where it started more or less by the Bishops the Bishops actually to be
started and so I talked there for a number of years but then I stopped teaching
because what was happening was it's a two-year program and most Bishops are like I
can't wait two years I need somebody now so then our society started a program
where you'd come it's a one-week intensive academic course it's eight hours
straight per day crushing everything you need to know in order to

Be able to understand how demons work and then we invite people to come in and sit
on a session so that they actually can see this is the flow of the session this is
how the demons have to be behaved and how they have to behave and how you have to
handle them what to do what not to do on a practical level because um it's it's
demons act within a specific gamut and you need to know what those are but when
they act within that

You need to know how to react in relationship to them okay okay how can you tell
the difference between someone who needs an exorcism and someone who has a mental
health issue um as I mentioned there's very distinctive patterns I just spent last
weekend talking to psychologists about those patterns and the differences in those
patterns so as I mentioned I came to

Gave the example of a of a of diabolic obsession with possession they still show
the same patterns as Obsession but there's also certain things that actually happen
which there's things that are going to occur that cannot be explained
psychologically so you might have heard there's a bishop in Switzerland who's done
away with exorcists and says we don't know Linda so it's all psychological

And so people say well what do you think and I said well you know if I'm in session
and some guy levitates and sticks to the ceiling that's not a psychological problem
people changing shape women turning into figures of men or animals that's not a
psychological problem right somebody telling me or speaking a language they never
knew the first case of possession I had this guy spoke a form of

Phoenician that has been defunct for 3 500 years he didn't even finish High School
so that's not normal right that's not a psychological problem okay so that's one of
the ways that you can tell um uh this is going to be the okay actually just want to
get one last question a person's probably going to think oh he picks mine picks
mine okay
Can you explain how demons are controlling the government okay some of these are I
kind of answered these online but they're and they're really long questions so what
are the things that we can do to protect ourselves and our family already mentioned
this one of the things is too is to start developing devotions on a regular basis
but as I mentioned prayer on a regular basis developing

The discipline in the family okay every week we're gonna Wednesdays and Fridays
we're gonna fast it doesn't have to be extreme but there should be some uh it
should be something that is you know a little taxing a little difficult if the bad
Angels were condemned for one bad decision what hope do we have and why is God so
patient with us well the reason he's patient with us is because we're stupid right
I mean we are that's why I mean

Basically so Mercy God's Mercy is not unconditional if you've heard that that is
absolutely false God's mercy has you get God's mercy from one of two reasons one
because of Contrition your contrite and why is that because in Contrition you're
looking at your sin and your intellectually you've been corrected because when we
choose a Sin we choose it under the aspect of the good we think it's good

But when we're contrite we recognize no that was bad so there's that correction of
us intellectually and then we desire to change and so God Cuts us mercy so God
gives Mercy to the contrite that's right in Scripture the other one is to the
stupid right well you just didn't know better right but we have to be careful even
with that because of the fact so those are the two people that get God's mercy so
there's some people that God just caught slack

Because of the fact that they're just you know they're they just didn't know any
better however you have to be really careful with that because sometimes people say
oh well these people just don't know any better well that's true sometimes it is
true sometimes people have psychological conditions or sometimes they're they just
don't know they never were taught that these things were bad you see that in
relationship to modesty most women

Have no clue what modesty is and it's just because they just don't know right so
that being the case but on the other hand Saint Thomas says that there's certain
inclinations of the natural law for which there is no excuse and if you commit to
sin you CA you can't feign ignorance now if you if you've lost used of reason or
there's been some type of malformation in your life to where you you're not capable
intellectually to grasp these things

Because of psychological reasons well he's going to
as you have use of Reason Saint Thomas says there's
is that fornication is mortally sinful now think of
true you talk to couples that have been shacking up
now Catholics are 97 so we're not much
cut you some slack but as long
no excuse the example he gives
that how do we know this is
so 98 of 98 of couples shack up

Better so 98 if you talk to them and you say you know you really should get your
relationship straightened out every one of them will say answering they know right
so okay so the moral of the story is is that it's Contrition for human beings is
because we're stupid and this is why Adam was you said I was deceived right so and
that's why because she didn't

Fully understand and that's why God cuts a sec but the demons were not deceived
they fully knew what they were doing and that's why their one choice was fixed them
permanently whereas with us as I mentioned because we're not that bright it takes
us a while to kind of fully form ourselves and get our Wills fixed in the good or
evil okay I'll give you a blessing amen God bless and have a good night